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[Call to Order]

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>> I'LL GO AHEAD AND CALL THE MEETING TO ORDER AT THIS TIME. JUNE 16, 2020, 6 P.M.

HOW'S OUR SOUND? THIS IS THE REGULAR MEETING CITY COMMISSION CALL THE ROLL.

>> MAYOR MILLER. >> HERE. >> COMMISSIONER CHAPMAN.

>> HERE. >> COMMISSIONER ROSS. >> HERE.

>> COMMISSIONER LEDNOVICH. >> HERE. >> AT THIS TIME, IF WE COULD STAND FOR THE PLEDGE OF O LEE GENERALS. -- ALLEGIANCE.

>> LET US PRAY. OUR FATHER AND OUR GOD, WE'VE COME TONIGHT TO TELL YOU THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR YOUR MANY BLESSINGS.

WE THANK YOU FOR YOUR MULTITUDE OF TENDER MERCIES. FATHER, WE THANK YOU THAT WE MIGHT HAVE LIFE AND HAVE IT MORE ABUNDANTLY. NOW, LORD, WE INVOKE YOUR PRESENCE RIGHT HERE AT CITY HALL IN FERNANDINA BEACH. WE ASK THAT YOU WOULD LEAD AND GUIDE IN A MANNER THAT'S PLEASING TO OUR SIGHT. WE PRAY FOR OUR COUNTRY, THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES, THAT YOU MIGHT BIND US TOGETHER IN ONE BAND OF CHRISTIAN LOVE.

CONTINUE TO BLESS OUR CITY, LORD, AND GOD BLESS AMERICA AND GOD'S PEOPLE SAID --

>> AMEN. >> THANK YOU, SIR. ARE THERE PEOPLE HERE?

>> THERE ARE PEOPLE HERE. >> I THINK THERE ARE SOME PEOPLE HERE.

>> GREAT, THANK YOU. >> FEEL FREE TO COME FORWARD. FIRST THING IS NATIONAL FLAG

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DAY. I'LL READ IT INTO THE RECORD. STARS AND STRIPES OF THE OFFICIAL FLAG JUNE 14, 1777. THE EVERY JUNE 14TH THERE AFTER THE FLAG HAS WATCHED OVER US SINCE THE DAYS OF OUR FOUNDING. THE BROAD STRIPES AND BRIGHT STARS WE SEE TELL THE STORY.

A HANDFUL OF COLONIES UNITED AND FREE. WHEREAS, PICK UP THE FIGHT FOR INDEPENDENCE THEY CAME TOGETHER UNDER A STANDARD TO SHOW THEIR COMMON CAUSE.

WHEN THE WOUNDS OF CIVIL WAR WERE STILL FRESH AND OUR COUNTRY WALKED THE LONG ROAD, OUR PEOPLE FOUND OPEN BANNER TO TESTIFY TO THE STREPB OF OUR UNION. WHEREVER OUR JOURNEY WOULD TAKE US, ON THAT PATH, REMINDING ME OF THE RIGHTS AND RESPONSIBILITIES WE SHARE AS CITIZENS. AND WHEREAS THIS WEEK WE CELEBRATE THAT LEGACY AND WE HONOR THE BRAVE MEN AND WOMEN WHO CONTINUE TO SERVE HERE AND ABROAD.

CONGRESS DESIGNATED JUNE 14TH OF EACH YEAR AS FLAG DAY AND DESIGNATED THE WEEK IN WHICH JUNE 14TH OCCURRED NATIONAL FLAG WEEK. NOW, THEREFORE, I, JOHN MILLER, BY VIRTUE OF THE POWER INVESTED IN ME HERE BY PROCLAIM JUNE 14, 2020.

THE WEEK OF JUNE 14TH OF 2020 NATIONAL FLAG WEEK HERE IN FERNANDINA BEACH, FLORIDA.

I ENCOURAGE ALL TO LIVE WITH THE PATRIOTISM THE RED, WHITE AND BLUE REPRESENTS.

>> JUST FOR THE SAKE OF MY NAVY, AIR FORCE, ARMY, MARINE FOLKS, IT IS ALSO THE BIRTH OF THE

ARMY. >> EVERY YEAR. THANK YOU, SIR.

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>> THIS IS FOR PRIDE MONTH. ANYBODY HERE FOR PRIDE? OKAY.

I'LL READ THIS INTO THE RECORD. WHEREAS, 243 YEARS AGO DECLARATION OF INDEPENDENCE, THE FOUNDING DOCUMENT ON WHICH OUR GREAT NATION WAS MADE WAS SIGNED INTO LAW AND READS ALL MEN ARE CREATED EQUAL, WE ARE ALL ENDOWED BY OUR CREATOR WITH CERTAIN RIGHTS.

LIFE, LIBERTY AND THE PURSUIT OF HAPPINESS. WHEREAS ALTHOUGH AMERICA HAD TO BECOME A MORE PERFECT UNION, THE JOURNEY HAS NOT BEEN WITHOUT STRIFE.

THE FIGHT FOR DIGNITY AND QUALITY FOR BEING LESBIAN, GAY, SEXUAL, TRANSGENDER, ASEXUAL

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PEOPLE ARE REFLECTING THE TIRELESS DEDICATION TO STRIVE TOWARD MORE INCLUSIVE SOCIETY.

WHERE AS MARRIAGE TO EQUALITY IN ALL 50 STATES WAS A VICTORY FOR LBGTIQ.

FOR EVERY PARTNERSHIP THAT WAS NOT RECOGNIZED UNDER THE LAW AND FOR EVERY AMERICAN WHO IS DENIED THEIR BASIC CIVIL RIGHTS THIS MONUMENTAL RIGHT CONFIRMS THE BELIEF THAT WE ARE ALL FREE AND SHOULD BE TREATED EQUAL. WHEREAS, THIS FIGHT IS UNDER PROGRESS, THE AMERICANS STILL FACE DISCRIMINATION SIMPLY FOR BEING WHO THEY ARE AND FOR LOVING WHO THEY LOVE.

ADVANCING FAIR TREATMENT OF ALL PEOPLE IS A CORNERSTONE OF AMERICAN DIPLOMACY AND SIMILARLY THE CITY OF FERNANDINA BEACH TO FIGHT DISCRIMINATION. THEREFORE, I, JOHN A. MILLER, BY THE VIRTUE OF THE AUTHORITY VESTED IN ME, HEREBY PROCLAIM JUNE 2020 AS PRIDE MONTH.

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AS WELL AS NATIONAL RECOGNITION. WHEREAS THE ABWA IS AN EQUAL OPPORTUNITY ORGANIZATION WILL PROVIDE EDUCATION AND CREDITS IN BUSINESS MANAGEMENT, POLICY AND MARKETING, LOCAL CHAPTER ABWA SPONSOR, EDUCATIONAL SCHOLARSHIPS ANNUALLY THROUGH THE EDUCATION FUND.

NOW I, JOHN A. MILLER BY VIRTUE OF THE MAYOR OF THE CITY OF FERNANDINA BEACH, FLORIDA, TO

MAKE JUNE 2020 THE ABWA MONTH. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >> THANK YOU.

>> DID YOU WANT TO SAY A FEW WORDS? >> THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

THAT CONCLUDES OUR PROCLAMATIONS. NOW WE HAVE A PRESENTATION FROM SCHOOLS TO DOWNTOWN WATERFRONT TRAIL. BEFORE WE START THAT,

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COMMISSIONER ROSS WOULD LIKE TO SAY A FEW WORDS. YOU'RE RECOGNIZED.

>> I'M VERY SAD TO REPORT THAT PHIL SCANLON DIED YESTERDAY. HE WAS DIRECTLY INVOLVED WITH NUMEROUS LOCAL ACTIVITIES AND PROJECTS WHICH MADE OUR COMMUNITY A FAR BETTER PLACE TO LIVE AND WORK. HE FOUNDED ADULT BIKES A LOCAL FERNANDINA BEACH PROGRAM TO RECYCLE BIKES AND PUT THEM IN THE HANDS OF INDIVIDUALS WHO NEEDED THEM FOR TRANSPORTATION.

HIS PROGRAM RESULTED IN THE DONATION, REPAIR, DISTRIBUTION OF MORE THAN 350 BICYCLES TO LOCAL NEEDY INDIVIDUALS. PHIL WORKED WITH THE CITY OF FERNANDINA AND THE NATIONAL PARK SYSTEM AND KEVIN MCCARTHY TO RE-ESTABLISH THE WATER TAXI SERVICES BETWEEN THE TWO CITIES.

A SERVICE WE HOPE WILL SOON BEGIN AGAIN. FINALLY, WITH BILL MOORE HE

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FOUNDED THE NONPROFIT ORGANIZATION FRIENDS OF MELIANO'S TRAIL WHICH HAS BEEN HELPED THE PROJECT MANAGER. AND PLANNING A NEW TRAIL WHICH WILL BE DISCUSSED TONIGHT, THE SCHOOLS TO DOWNTOWN WATERFRONT. HIS WORK ON THE TRAIL HAS LED HIM TO BE AN ABOUT TEUFRB SUPPORTER. ONE OF THE REASONS WE HAVE ALL THE TRAILS ON THIS ISLAND IS DIRECTLY BECAUSE OF PHIL SCANLON. HE IS A RETIRED AT&T EXECUTIVE.

HE RAN CITY COMMISSION. HE WAS ACTIVE IN LOCAL COMMUNITY PROJECTS.

HE WILL BE GREATLY MISSED. HE'S A COMMUNITY ASSET. THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU, SIR. I WOULD GO AS FAR TO SAY WITHOUT PHIL SCANLON, WE WOULDN'T HAVE THESE TRAILS TODAY. PHIL WAS A DRIVING FORCE ON A LOT OF ACTIVITIES.

I MET WITH HIM WITH THE GOVERNMENT OF ST. MARY, HE WAS CONSTANTLY DRAGGING ME.

HE WAS A MOTIVATING FORCE IN A LOT OF THINGS WE DO HERE. HIS PHILOSOPHY FROM THE BOOK I READ WHICH HE WAS A BIG FAN OF, WHEN SOMEBODY SAYS WE SHOULD HAVE A SITUATION OVER HERE AND SOMEBODY SAYS, WE NEED ONE OVER HERE, YOU GET EXCITED ABOUT THAT.

WE WANT BOTH. WE WANT EVERYTHING. HE'S REALLY GOING TO BE MISSED.

THE BOOK I READ IS SO GOOD. WHEN THE DOLPHINS COME BACK, ABOUT HIS PLIGHT TO SAVE THE WATER OF NEW JERSEY. HE DID INCREDIBLE THINGS FOR THE STATE OF NEW JERSEY AND HAD DOLPHINS COME BACK TO THAT AREA. WHICH WAS AN AMAZING BOOK. WHICH HE WOULDN'T TALK ABOUT A WHOLE LOT. HE WAS A VERY HUMBLE MAN. HE WILL BE STRONGLY MISSED BY THIS BODY AND BY THE CITY. OUR CONDOLENCES GO OUT TO HIS FAMILY.

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OKAY. SO WITH THAT, WE HAVE A PRESENTATION ON THE TRAIL.

>> THANK YOU. GOOD EVENING, MR. MAYOR, COMMISSIONERS, MR. MARTIN.

WE'RE REALLY SORRY TO HEAR ABOUT PHIL AND WE FEEL VERY LUCKY TO HAVE HAD HIM AS PART OF OUR TEAM. I'M SALLY COYLE, PRESIDENT OF COYLE AND CARON.

WE ARE VERY EXCITED TO PRESENT THE WORK RESULT OF OUR WORK WITH YOUR STAFF, KELLY, ANDRE, MR. HARTEN AND THE FRIENDS OF THE AMELIA ISLAND TRAIL WERE AN INTEGRAL PART OF THAT AS WELL, PLANNING FOR THE TOOLS TO THE DOWNTOWN WATERFRONT TRAIL. WE LOVE WHAT WE DO AS ARCHITECTS. FOR US, TRAILS WERE KIND OF AN EPITOME OF THAT WORK, BECAUSE WE SEE THE INSTANT IMPACT ON PEOPLE'S LIVES THE DAY THE TRAIL OPENS AND THE CONTINUATION OF THAT. AS THE WEBSITE SAYS, TRAILS PROVIDE RECREATION, TRANSPORTATION, ENVIRONMENTAL BENEFITS THAT COLLECTIVELY CONTRIBUTE TO THE OVERALL ENHANCED QUALITY OF LIFE IN COMMUNITIES. THIS PROJECT CAME ABOUT AS A RESULT OF WORK RELATED TO YOUR MASTER RECREATION PLAN UPDATE WHEN YOUR CITIZENS SPECIFICALLY REQUESTED A LINK BETWEEN SCHOOLS AND YOUR DOWNTOWN WATERFRONT. SOME ADDITIONAL GOALS FOR THE PROJECT INCLUDED COMPLIANCE WITH FDOT, SO THAT THE PROJECT WOULD BE ELIGIBLE FOR SUN TRAIL AND OTHER GRANTS, AS WELL AS DESIGNED TO MAINTAIN GREEN SPACE.

QUICK OVERVIEW OF THE ROUTE. THE TRAIL WAS COMPLETED, WILL PROVIDE A SAFE MEANS OF TRAVEL, TEN FOOT WIDE MIXED RECREATION TRAIL LINKING SEVERAL KEY LOCATIONS ON THE TRAIL MAP ALONG HICKORY WEST, CROSSING TO POTENTIAL FUTURE MICROBREWERY ON THIRD, PAST SOME OF YOUR CULTURAL MUSEUMS AND THEATER ORGANIZATIONS AND INTO THE DOWNTOWN.

THE TRAIL -- GO TO THE NEXT ONE. WHAT WILL THE TRAIL LOOK LIKE? IT'S IMPORTANT THAT IT WILL BE A MULTIUSE TRAIL ALLOWING THE MAJORITY OF ITS LANDSCAPE BUFFER, MINIMUM FIVE FEET WIDE THROUGH THE STREET SCAPE. SOME KEY AREAS POTENTIALLY AROUND LOUISIANA AS WE APPROACH DOWNTOWN HAVE SOME ADDITIONALAL AMENITIES SPECIFICALLY SIGNAGE, SPECIAL PAVING.

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OUR PROCESS FOR THIS PROJECT WOULD BE DONE IN OCTOBER WITH THE AMELIA AISLE TRAIL AS WELL AS YOUR CITY. WE MET YOUR TEAM HERE. HAD ALREADY SPENT A LOT OF WORK ON THE GROUND TALKING TO THE COMMUNITY MEMBERS, REVIEWING TRAIL OPTIONS.

THE FIRST THING YOU DO WAS LOOK AT A TRAIL. OVER THE NEXT COUPLE OF MONTHS WE TWEAKED THAT AND MADE ADJUSTMENTS BASED ON INPUT WITH CITY STAFF, BOTH THAT WERE ON THE PROJECT AND OTHERS HAD DIFFERENT INPUT SO WE COULD COME TO WHAT WAS THE BEST ROUTE PROPOSED. THAT WORK CULMINATED IN A PUBLIC MEETING IN JANUARY.

WE HAD GREAT ATTENDANCE. ALL YOUR STAFF WERE THERE. 50 PEOPLE OR MORE ATTENDED.

GREAT FEED BACK FROM PEOPLE. LOTS OF SUPPORT. SOME CONCERN OF OTHERS.

POSITIVE FEED BACK ON THE TRAIL. SO WITH THAT, I'M GOING TO LET ADAM DO A LITTLE MORE DETAIL

ABOUT THE TRAIL. >> GOOD EVENING. SO, THE TRAIL ITSELF STARTS -- THE TRAIL STARTS AT THE INTERSECTION OF HICKORY AND CITRONA.

THERE ARE TRAILS THAT CONNECT TO THE SCHOOLS THERE, AS WELL AS THE GREEN WAY IS RIGHT ON THE OTHER SIDE OF HICKORY. IT'S A GREAT PLACE TO START. THE TRAIL WILL THEN CONTINUE WEST ALONG HICKORY PASSING BY BALL FIELDS. THE REASON WE'RE HAVING IT PASS THERE IS ON THE NORTH SIDE OF HICKORY THERE ARE POWER LINES. IT ALSO PROVIDES A CONNECTION TO THE AMENITIES THAT ARE EVOLVING. PEOPLE DURING THE DAY IF THEY'RE NOT AT SCHOOL HAVE A SAFE WAY TO ACCESS THOSE AMENITY FIELDS. AT 15TH STREET, WE WOULD THEN HAVE A CROSSING TO THE NORTH SIDE OF CHEER. THAT'S WHERE THE POWER LINES CROSS TO THE SOUTH SIDE OF HICKORY. CONTINUING ALONG HICKORY, WE WOULD GO WEST UNTIL WE REACH 11TH STREET. AT 11TH STREET, YOU WOULD CROSS AND THEN HIT NORTH.

PART OF THE REASON WE'RE CROSSING 11TH STREET IS BECAUSE, AGAIN, THERE ARE LARGE POWER STRUCTURES ON THE EAST SIDE OF 11. AT THE TECH CENTER THIS WOULD PROVIDE ACCESS AND A SAFE WAY TO TRAVEL FROM ANY POINT ON THIS TRAIL TO THE FIELD AND CENTER.

BOTH ARE COMMUNITY ASSETS THAT BENEFIT THE PEOPLE OF THIS ISLAND GREATLY.

WE WOULD THEN CROSS EIGHTH. THIS IS A PARTICULARLY DANGEROUS SITUATION LOCATION PARTLY BECAUSE THERE ARE LOGGING TRUCKS THAT COME AND TAKE STUFF TO THE MILL DOWN THE WAY.

EIGHTH WAS CHALLENGING BECAUSE THERE ARE ONLY TWO POINTS WHERE THE TRAIL COULD POTENTIALLY CROSS, JUST DUE TO WHERE THEY ARE. THE ISSUE WITH BEACH STREET, WHICH WAS ANOTHER OPTION WE LOOKED AT, HAD TO DO WITH KIND OF RIGHT OF WAY.

SO THERE WAS NO PLACE TO BUILD A TRAIL THERE DUE TO THE STRUCTURES.

SO WE REALLY WERE LEFT WITH THIS AS THE ONLY MEANINGFUL, OR LOGICAL OPTION.

CONTINUING DOWN GUN, WE WOULD TAKE IT TO THIRD AT WHICH POINT WE WOULD PASS BY THE ALLEGIENT BUILDING. IT ALSO ALLOWS US TO MITIGATE SOME INFRASTRUCTURE ISSUES, REPAIRING CULVERT, PART OF WHICH WOULD BE INCLUDED IN THE CITY'S PORTION OF THE TRAIL PROJECT.

WE WOULD CONTINUE ALONG THIRD NORTH. DURING THE MEETING THERE WAS SOME COMMUNITY ISSUES ABOUT THIRD. PART OF THE GREAT THING ABOUT A TRAIL IS IT GETS PEOPLE OUT MOVING. SO WHEN THERE ARE PEOPLE POSSIBLY NEXT TO THE ROAD, PEOPLE ARE LESS LIKELY TO SPEED THROUGH IT.

YOU HAVE COMMUNITY INVOLVEMENT, HELPING MITIGATE SAFETY CONCERNS.

THE TRAIL THEN CONTINUES ALL THE WAY NORTH ALONG THIRD PAST THE THEATER AND THE MUSEUM AND UP UNTIL BEACH STREET. BEACH STREET WE'RE DOING SOMETHING A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT. IT'S A MIXED USE RECREATION TRAIL SO WE HAVE TO COUNT FOR PEDESTRIANS. WITH ALL THE RECENT DEVELOPMENT HERE, THERE ARE A LOT OF SIDEWALKS EXISTING. WE DON'T NECESSARILY WANT THOSE BIKERS ON THE SIDEWALKS WITH PEOPLE WALKING AROUND THE DOWNTOWN AREA SO WE'RE PROPOSING A PAVED PARKING ON THE STREET THAT DESIGNATES DRIVERS, LETS THEM KNOW THIS ROAD IS FOR BOTH VEHICLE AND CYCLIST USE.

IT WOULD CON HERE DOWN SECOND. IT WOULD CONNECT DIRECTLY TO THE DOWNTOWN MARINA AREA AND THE

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FUTURE WATERFRONT TRAIL THAT'S BEING PROPOSED. AND THIS IS JUST SOME SECTIONS WE DID ALONG THE BALL PARK, GIVE YOU AN IDEA THAT YOU HAVE THE ROAD, SMALL BUFFER, YOUR MULTIUSE TRAIL. THEN THERE'S THE ATTENTION TO BALL PARK ON THE RIGHT.

AND THEN HERE WOULD BE A LOT OF THE RAIL YARD ON THIRD. WE HAVE A PLANTED BUFFER WHICH MEANS THE TRAIL AND THE ROAD WAY. AND THEN A PLANTING BETWEEN THE TRAIL AND THE RAIL YARD ON THE LEFT. WITH THAT, I WILL HAND IT BACK

OFF TO SALLY. >> SO AS PART OF OUR WORK, WE WERE ASKED TO IDENTIFY CHALLENGES AND PROPOSED SOLUTIONS. WE CAME UP WITH TEN IN ORDER OF PRIORITY MOST IMPORTANCE TO LEAST. YOU'LL NOTE, HALF OF THESE WOULD BE CHALLENGES ON ANY PUBLIC DESIGN AND CONSTRUCTION PROJECT. WE THOUGHT THE GRASS AND THE PLANTING, IT WOULD BE GOOD TO IDENTIFY THEM ALL. THE PRIMARY ONE WE IDENTIFIED, THIS IS DUE TO THE FACT THAT WE DID NOT HAVE A SURVEY. THIS IS RIGHT OF WAY CONFLICT.

SO REALLY UNDERSTANDING WHERE THAT RIGHT OF WAY IS AND HOW MUCH SPACE IS NEEDED.

TRAIL NEEDS TO BE A MINIMUM OF TEN FEET. WE ESTIMATED 12 TO 20 FEET THROUGH THE TRAIL AND COMING IN ON THAT IS AN IMPORTANT NEXT STEP.

FDOT DOES ALLOW FOR TEN FEET IN SOME AREAS. UTILITY LOCATION WOULD BE THE SECOND. WE ARE AVOIDING MANY ABOVE GROUND UTILITIES.

THERE WILL BE UNDER GROUND UTILITY RELOCATION THAT WILL HAVE TO BE DONE ACCORDING TO THE PROJECT. COST. WE DID A DETAILED COST ANALYSIS WITH THIS, CAME UP WITH THE NUMBER OF $2.3 MILLION FOR THE ENTIRE TRAIL.

THAT INCLUDES MULTIPLE CONTINGENCIES, ESCALATION, PRETTY MUCH EVERYTHING THAT WE COULD THINK OF. FULL UTILITY RELOCATION, EVEN THOUGH YOUR STAFF BELIEVED THAT SOME OF THAT WOULD NOT BE NECESSARY, BUT AT THIS POINT WE WANTED TO BE SAFE IN PLANNING.

RIGHT OF WAY USE. THERE ARE A COUPLE OF CONDITIONS WHERE WE HAVE PEOPLE WHO USE THE RIGHT OF WAY FOR PARKING THE VEHICLES. PART OF THE OUTREACH WORK WOULD BE WORKING WITH THOSE PEOPLE AND FINDING ANOTHER SOLUTION FOR THAT.

NEIGHBORHOOD EMBODIMENT. USUALLY ON MOST PRODUCTS YOU KNOW THE NEIGHBORHOOD BUY IN WOULD BE USUALLY THE NUMBER ONE ISSUE TO DEAL WITH. WE ARE SO FORTUNATE TO HAVE YOUR STAFF HERE WHO HAVE BEEN ADVOCATING ON THE GROUND, IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

40 PEOPLE ALONG THE WAY GETTING INITIAL REACTION TO THIS. I THINK WE ARE A GOOD WAY ALONG THAT ROAD. THIS WE THINK IS REALLY GOING TO BE A GREAT ASSET KEEPING THIS PROJECT MOVING FORWARD. EASEMENTS, WE WOULD LIKE TO SAY THAT WE DON'T THINK ANY WILL BE REQUIRED. WE DON'T HAVE THE SURVEY. WE ARE HOPING IT WILL ONLY BE ONE OR TWO, IF ANY. WE'VE WORKED WITH ANDRE. WE HAVE BUILT IN THE COST OF THE STORM WATER MOVEMENT. WE BELIEVE THERE ARE OPPORTUNITIES HERE TO BUNDLE SOME OF THOSE PROJECTS PERHAPS THROUGH COMBINED GRANTS OR OTHER THINGS.

JUST MAKE SENSE WHILE DOING THIS CONSTRUCTION TOGETHER. EXISTING LANDSCAPE.

THERE ARE A FEW AREAS WHERE MODEST CLEARING WOULD BE NEEDED. YOUR ARBORIST.

SAFETY IS PARAMOUNT, BOTH IN PLANNING AND FUTURE DESIGN TO MAINTAIN THE TRAIL.

WE PUT IT DOWN ON THE LIST BECAUSE WE FEEL WE HAVE VETTED SAFE ROUTES ACROSS THE TRAIL.

AND SPACING. ANY PROJECT WE DO HAVE PLACES ON EIGHTH STREET TO BE IDENTIFIED IF THE PROJECT WERE TO BE PHASED FOR FUNDING. JUST IN CLOSING, WE'D LIKE TO SAY THANK YOU. WE REALLY APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY TO WORK WITH YOUR INCREDIBLY DEDICATED AND TALENTED STAFF. WE CAN SEE WHY FERNANDINA IS SUCH A LOVELY PLACE TO LIVE AND WORK BECAUSE OF THE DEDICATION OF THE PEOPLE HERE.

WE LOOK FORWARD TO WORKING WITH YOU ON FUTURE DEVELOPMENT OF THIS PROJECT.

THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU.

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WOULD YOU LIKE TO ASK A QUESTION NOW? >> I'LL WAIT.

>> COMMISSIONERS, I'M WITH THE FRIENDS OF THE TRAIL. I WANT TO THANK COMMISSIONER ROSS FOR HIS KIND WORDS ABOUT OUR COLLEAGUE PHIL SCANLON. I BELIEVE WE HONOR PHIL WITH THIS WORK TONIGHT. MR. MARTIN, THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK ABOUT THE PROPOSED SCHOOLS TO DOWNTOWN WATERFRONT TRAILS OUTREACH EFFORT.

I HAVE TO TELL YOU A FEW MONTHS BACK COMMISSIONER KREGER SAID YOU WILL GET OUT THERE IN THE COMMUNITY AND TALK TO PEOPLE ABOUT THIS PROJECT. I SAID WE ALREADY ARE.

HE SAID, YOU WILL. I SAID, I'LL DO THAT. WE WANT TO THANK CITY STAFF KELLY GIBSON LAURA JACOBS FOR GENEROUS SUPPORT TO HELP US SHAPE THIS PROPOSAL.

WE DID COME AWAY FROM THE JANUARY 23RD PUBLIC MEETING ENERGIZED THAT WE WERE ON THE RIGHT PATH TO HELP CONNECT OUR COMMUNE TO ITS PUBLIC RESOURCES AND PROVIDE SAFE PASSAGE TO NEIGHBORHOODS TO DOWNTOWN. THE GOAL TONIGHT IS TO GET YOUR APPROVAL TO PROCEED WITH PREPARING AND SUBMITTING GRANT APPLICATIONS AS IS REASONABLY POSSIBLE.

FIRST LET ME TIE SOME POLICY THREADS TOGETHER AS SALLY ELUDED TO.

SCHOOLS OF DOWNTOWN WATERFRONT TRAIL PROPOSAL IS CONSISTENT WITH THE MULTIMOBILE TRANSPORTATION GOAL OBJECT 2.10 TO ENCOURAGE AND PROMOTE THE SAFE INTEGRATION, UTILIZATION OF BICYCLE AND PEDESTRIAN AND LOW SPEED ALTERNATIVE VEHICLE ON THE ROAD WAY.

THE TRAIL WILL BE ANOTHER LINK CONNECTING US TO ST. MARY'S TO THE NORTH AND DUVAL COUNTY TO THE SOUTH. THE GOAL IS TO BUILD A SAFE OFF ROAD PATH TO KEY WEST.

PLEASE LET ME REVIEW THE FULL OUTREACH EFFORT SINCE WE BEGAN WORK LAST JULY.

BY COINCIDENCE IT WAS LAST JUNE THAT PHIL SAID, IT'S ABOUT TIME THAT WE START LOOKING ABOUT WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO TO DOWNTOWN. YOU'LL RECALL THAT POINT WE HAD MIKE AND PHIL AND OTHERS COMPLETED THE AMELIA ISLAND TRAIL. THE SEA TRAIL WAS GETTING READY TO OPEN IN SEPTEMBER OF LAST YEAR. YOU HAVE A HANDOUT DETAILING THE OUTREACH EFFORT. I HAVE JUST SIGNED COPIES OF THE FLIGHTS WE USED.

WE GAVE THEM ALL OUT. WE HANDED OUT 198 FLYERS. WE TALKED TO FOLKS AT 99 ADDRESSES. THE PEC MEETING, SOME OF YOU WERE THERE.

CHIP WAS THERE. I THINK WE HAD 50 IN ATTENDANCE. THERE WERE SOME SPECIFIC CONCERNS, I'M NOT GOING TO TAKE TIME TO GO OVER THOSE TONIGHT. WE HAVE ADDRESSED THEM.

FEBRUARY 9 WE DID AN OUTREACH. BECAUSE OF CONCERNS COMING OUT OF THE JANUARY MEETING, MIKE SET UP A MEETING WITH THE COUNTY SCHOOLS TRANSPORTATION DIRECTOR AND FACILITIES DIRECTOR.

THAT WAS ABOUT WHICH SIDE OF HICKORY STREET. THEY TOLD US THE SOUTH SIDE PROVIDES MORE OPTIONS. I WAS TALKING TO REVEREND THOMPSON HERE BEFORE, DWAYNE CAMPBELL, THE BOARD OF THE METRO HOUSING AUTHORITY. MR. CHRISTOPHER WILSON.

I STARTED MY OUTREACH AT THE BARBER SHOP ON HICKORY STREET. WE'VE HAD CONVERSATIONS WITH MISS DAVIS AND MR. TILSON AT THE AMELIA ISLAND MUSEUM OF HISTORY BECAUSE WE HAD TO DO SOMETHING CREATIVE. WE TALKED TO EVERY CITY DEPARTMENT PERSON THAT WE CAN THINK OF AND SHOULD. COMMANDER AT THE AMERICAN LEGION.

I'M GONNA STOP RIGHT THERE. THERE WAS A PICTURE IN THIS NEXT, YOU PROBABLY SAW ME KNOCKING ON THE DOOR. PHIL SENT ME THAT PICTURE BECAUSE HE HAD GONE AROUND WITH ME THAT DAY AND HE SAID THE QUOTE I PUT UP THERE. MA'AM, WOULD YOU BE INTERESTED IN A TRAIL ON HICKORY STREET? I THINK HE'S LOOKING DOWN ON US TONIGHT.

I'M NOT GOING TO GET INTO ANY MORE SPECIFICS BUT IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS, I'D BE HAPPY TO

ANSWER THEM. >> THANK YOU FOR YOUR PRESENTATION.

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>> THANK YOU. >> I READ ABOUT A TREE, YOU DID A TREE INVENTORY, TREES THAT WOULD HAVE TO BE RELOCATED OR REPLANTED AND I HAVE WONDERING WHEN YOU SAY $2.3 MILLION, DOES

THAT INCLUDE THE COST OF THE TREES? >> I'LL HAVE TO GO BACK.

YES, I DOES. NOT ALONG THE ENTIRE TRAIL. WE DID IN FRONT OF THE MUSEUM, WHAT TREES COULD BE SAVED AND WHAT TREES WOULD NEED TO BE REPLACED.

WE HAVE SOME MONEY DETAILED IN OUR REPORT. >> JUST A FIGURE I'D LIKE TO

SEE. >> WE PROBABLY HAVE A LUMP SUM FOR IT AT THIS POINT.

>> OKAY. >> I KNOW AROUND SOUTH THIRD, THERE WERE SOME NEWLY PLANTED SWEET GUM AND CEDAR THAT THE CITY WAS CONCERNED THAT THEY MIGHT HAVE TO BE MOVED.

I THINK WE HAVE THEM PRICED IN TO MOVE THOSE. THEY ARE TOO CLOSE TO THE EDGE

OF THE ROAD. >> MR. MAYOR, IS THERE SOME FORMAL ACTION?

>> ONLY PRESENTATION. >> NO. >> I WOULD LIKE THAT WE HAVE A CONSENSUS THAT WE SHOULD GO FORWARD WITH THE FUNDING LOOKING AT THE GRANT FUNDING.

>> DO YOU WANT TO MAKE A MOTION, SIR? >> SO MOVED.

>> SECOND. >> I HAVE A MOTION SECOND TO MOVE FORWARD.

>> COMMISSIONER ROSS. >> YES. >> COMMISSIONER LEDNOVICH.

>> YES. >> COMMISSIONER ROSS. >> YES.

>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH, FOLKS. >> WE APPRECIATE IT. THE PANDEMIC HAS BROUGHT A LOT OF FOLKS OUT ON THE TRAILS. WE REALLY THINK THIS IS THE RIGHT IDEA AT THE RIGHT TIME.

>> THANK YOU, SIR. WELL DONE. OKAY.

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ITEM 4.5, BUDGET SUMMARY. COMPTROLLER IS HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS REGARDING OUR

BUDGET SUMMARY OF MAY 2020. WELCOME, MA'AM. >> GOOD EVENING.

PAULINE TESTAGROSE. THIS IS THE GENERAL REVENUE. THIS IS WHERE WE ARE THROUGH MAY, YEAR TO DATE. MAY IS THE EIGHTH MONTH AND REPRESENTS 66.67% OF THE BUDGETED FISCAL YEAR. WE ARE AT 84.5%. ONE OTHER THING I'D LIKE TO NOTE IS THE GENERAL FUND EXPENSES ARE AT 52.4%. YOU RECEIVED THE NORMAL MONTHLY BUDGET PRACTICE. THIS NEXT SLIDE IS JUST AN UPDATE ON THE STATE REVENUE.

THROUGH MAY THE STATE HAS BEEN DISTRIBUTING 95% OF THE FORECASTED AMOUNT OF REVENUE AVAILABLE TO MUNICIPALITY, BUT SINCE THEIR FISCAL YEAR END IS JUNE 30, THEY HAVE DECIDED FOR MAY AND JUNE, WHICH IS OUR JUNE AND JULY, THAT THEY'RE GOING TO REDUCE THAT TO 50%.

IN THE PAST, THEY'VE ALWAYS DONE A TRUE UP AND THEY WILL DO THAT IN AUGUST, AND THEY WILL DISTRIBUTE ANY REMAINING FUNDS THAT ARE DUE TO THE LOCAL GOVERNMENT.

THIS WILL ENSURE THAT THEIR TRUST FUNDS DON'T GO INTO DEFICIT BALANCE FOR YEAR END.

SO THIS NEXT SLIDE IS STATE REVENUE. THESE ARE THE REVENUES THAT WE RECEIVED FROM THE STATE THAT ARE REPORTED IN THE GENERAL FUND. SO THE COMPS TO THE RIGHT, FIRST SCENARIO IS IF WE COLLECT 50% OF THE REMAINING CHANCE THAT'S DUE, WHERE WOULD WE END UP FOR THE YEAR END? THE NEXT TWO COLUMNS ARE IF WE RECEIVED 75%, WHERE WOULD WE END UP? ONE THING YOU WANT TO NOTE IS THE INSURANCE PREMIUM PACK.

ALL INDICATIONS FROM THE STATE IS THAT WE WILL RECEIVE 100% OF THAT.

THAT ACTUALLY IS PREMIUMS THAT ARE PAID ON PROPERTY AND CASUALTY INSURANCE POLICIES THAT ARE WRITTEN WITHIN THE CITY. THE NEXT SLIDE IS GENERAL FUND REVENUE SOURCES.

THIS JUST BREAKS DOWN THE DIFFERENT SOURCES IN THE GENERAL FUND.

FOR INSTANCE, PROPERTY TAXES AT 65.64% OF THE BUDGET. YOU CAN SEE THE STATE REVENUE THAT'S AT 15.85% OF THE BUDGET. AND THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION.

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>> THANK YOU. DO YOU HAVE A QUESTION? >> I DO.

IF YOU COULD GO BACK TO THE GENERAL FUND ACTUAL REVENUES. I'M LOOKING AT THE LINE, SALES,

USE, FUEL TAX, SUBTOTAL. >> CORRECT. >> TO THE FAR RIGHT WHERE IT'S $1.21 MILLION. ARE YOU PROJECTING THAT WE HAVE A DEFICIT --

>> NO. THAT IS THE REMAINING BUDGET AMOUNT.

BASICALLY WHAT WE DO IS WE TAKE THE BUDGET AND WE SUBTRACT OUT THE ACTUAL AND THAT IS THE

REMAINING AMOUNT THAT WE HAVE TO COLLECT. >> OKAY.

SO HOW MUCH ARE YOU PROJECTING OF THAT, THAT WE'LL GET. WHAT'S YOUR BEST GUESS?

>> WELL, WE REALLY DON'T KNOW YET. THE STATE HAS NOT REALLY GIVEN US ANY INDICATION. BASICALLY THEY ARE GOING TO A CONSERVATIVE APPROACH FOR MAY AND JUNE WHICH IS SOUR JUNE AND JULY SELECTION. THEY'RE GOING TO DISTRIBUTE 50%

AND DO THE TRUE UP IN AUGUST. >> I SEE. OKAY.

WE AREN'T GOING TO KNOW? >> WE DON'T KNOW UNTIL THE VERY LAST MONTH.

>> CORRECT. I KEEP CHECKING THEIR WEBSITE AND THERE'S NO NEW INFORMATION.

EVEN FOR NEXT YEAR, WE WON'T KNOW REVENUE ESTIMATES FROM THE STATE FOR OUR NEXT YEAR BUDGET

UNTIL JULY. >> WOW. THAT MAKES IT HARD TO PLAN.

>> YES, IT DOES. >> THANK YOU. >> OKAY.

>> THIS ISN'T RELATED TO THAT. WITH THE STATE -- I BELIEVE FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND, WE WILL BE ABLE TO RECOVER ANY AID THAT WAS

UNBUDGETED. >> BASICALLY WHAT YOU CAN DO IS YOU CANNOT COLLECT ANY REVENUE THAT YOU HAVE LOST, BUT YOU CAN COLLECT MONEY ON THINGS THAT YOU DID NOT BUDGET FOR THAT YOU

PURCHASED, PPE EQUIPMENT OR ANY EQUIPMENT THAT YOU NEED. >> CORRECT.

SO THE QUARTER MILLION DOLLARS THAT WE PROVIDED TO NONPROFITS SHOULD BE REIMBURSABLE.

>> ALL INDICATIONS ARE THAT WE COULD REIMBURSE IT. I DID LOOK INTO THAT REALLY QUICKLY AND IT DOES LOOK LIKE WE WILL BE ABLE TO GET REIMBURSED FOR THAT.

>> I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE WE ARE AHEAD OF THE GAME. THAT'S A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF MONEY THAT WE CAN BRING IN ALONG WITH FIRST RESPONDERS AND PROBABLY MAINTENANCE FUNCTIONS,

OVERTIME WE DID WITH CLOSURES. >> RIGHT. WHAT WE DID, WHEN THE WHOLE PANDEMIC AND SHUTDOWN STARTED, WE HAD ASKED THE DEPARTMENT TO JUST KEEP TRACK AND WE'VE BEEN

COLLECTING THAT DATA. >> OKAY. >> COMMISSIONER ROSS?

>> I WAS TALKING TO MR. LIEBER. THIS CARES ACT IS -- HOW SHOULD I USE THE WORD? SEEMS PRETTY SQUISHY. HE WAS UNSURE HOW MUCH MONEY, IF ANY, THEY WOULD GET.

IT GOES TO THE COUNTY, NOT TO THE CITY. THEY WOULD HAVE TO DETERMINE HOW MUCH WE GET. SO WE'RE A LONG WAYS AWAY FROM -- WE MAY OR MAY NOT GET ANY MONEY. I WOULDN'T COUNT MY CHICKENS BEFORE THEY HATCH.

THE WHOLE THING IS PRETTY LUCY GOOSEY AT THE MOMENT. >> WE HAVE NO EXPECTATION OF RECEIVING ANY FUNDS WHEN WE DID THESE PLANS. IT WOULD BE NICE TO GET IT BACK,

BUT WE DID THESE DONATIONS UNDERSTANDING IT WAS GONE. >> I UNDERSTAND THAT.

THERE'S OVER $1 BILLION GOING TO 52 COUNTIES. THE MORE AGGRESSIVE WE ARE, IF

WE GET $250,000. >> I AGREE 100%. THANK YOU, SIR.

OKAY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MA'AM. >> THANK YOU.

>> ALL RIGHT. ONE MORE SECTION WE DO HAVE TO REQUEST A SPEAKER.

AFTER THAT WE'LL OPEN THE FLOOR. 5.1. LAND CONSERVATION REQUESTED BY

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COMMISSIONER LEDNOVICH. >> THANK YOU. I HAVE TWO QUICK ITEMS. SO, IN JANUARY OF 2019, THIS COMMISSION SET THE GOAL OF INCREASING OUR TREE CANOPY, AND WE'VE BEEN AWAITING A PLAN EVER SINCE. AND IN MY CONVERSATIONS WITH THE CITY MANAGER YESTERDAY, CITY MANAGER INDICATED THAT THERE IS A PLAN.

WE WOULD GET AN UPDATE ON THE CANOPY INVENTORY. HOW MUCH CANOPY DO WE HAVE NOW

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AND WHERE DO WE NEED TO GET TO AND HOW ARE WE GOING TO DO THAT? IT WAS INDICATED BY THE CITY MANAGER THAT HE WOULD GIVE US THAT REPORT IN LIEU OF A PRESENTATION.

DID I STATE THAT CORRECTLY? >> YES, MR. MAYOR. SPEAKING WITH MISS GIBSON, PRELIMINARY REPORT WAS PROVIDED IN DECEMBER, BUT WE ARE FINALIZING THAT WITH YOU AND I

EXPECT I WILL HAVE THAT TO YOU BY THE END OF JUNE. >> MY SECOND IS AN UPDATE ON NEXT STEPS ON POTENTIAL PROPERTY IN THE LAND TRUST. WHERE ARE WE?

WHAT ARE OUR NEXT STEPS? >> CURRENTLY IN MY DISCUSSIONS WITH MR. MARK HUDSON OF THE LAND TRUST HE HAS RECEIVED APPRAISALS ON TWO PROPERTIES. I HAVE AUTHORIZED HIM TO BEGIN NEGOTIATIONS WITH THE PROPERTY OWNERS OF THOSE TWO PROPERTIES. PLEASE BE ADVISED THAT THOSE PROPERTIES ARE SUBSTANTIALLY MORE EXPENSIVE THAN THE PREVIOUS PROPERTIES THAT THIS COMMISSION HAS PURSUED, BUT THEY DO ADDRESS THE, WHAT I BELIEVE THE INTENT OF THIS COMMISSION IS.

NOT ONLY DO YOU WANT TO ACQUIRE LAND THAT'S GOOD FOR CONSERVATION, BUT ALL LAND THAT REDUCES POTENTIAL DEVELOPMENT. BOTH OF THESE PROPERTIES ARE KEY AND HIGHLY DEVELOPABLE PROPERTIES, SO MR. HUDSON HAS INITIATED DISCUSSIONS WITH THE PROPERTY OWNERS TO FIND OUT WHAT A PURCHASE PRICE IS, WHICH WOULD LIKELY BE DIFFERENT THAN WHAT THE APPRAISAL PRICE IS.

AS SOON AS I GET A PURCHASE PRICE THAT HE'S AGREED TO WITH THE PROPERTY OWNER, I WILL BRING

IT TO YOU FOR CONVERSATION. >> THAT'S ALL I HAVE. >> 5.2.

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THIS ITEM WAS PLACED ON THE AGENDA BY MR. LEDNOVICH. >> YOU MIGHT AS WELL RETURN.

SO ON THE WATERFRONT DEVELOPMENT, RIGHT WHEN THE PANDEMIC HIT, WE WERE PREPARED TO HAVE A PUBLIC WORKSHOP TO GET FEED BACK ON CONCEPT E. SUBSEQUENTLY, THAT WORK SHOP IS

BEING RECONSTITUTED FOR JULY 11TH. >> YES, SIR, JULY 11TH.

>> I'D LIKE A LITTLE DISCUSSION ON THE FORM AND PROCESS OF THE WORKSHOP, GIVEN THE STING OF THE PANDEMIC IN FLORIDA. BECAUSE AS WE ALL KNOW, THE PAST SEVEN DAYS, THE PANDEMIC HAS SPIKED IN THE STATE TO RECORD LEVELS. PRIOR TO IT EVEN STARTING.

AND MY LOCAL OBSERVATIONS AND ANY OTHER COMMISSIONER CAN CHIME IN HERE, BUT WHEN I'M DOWNTOWN, THERE IS NO PANDEMIC. THAT'S THE REALITY. SO MY GREAT FEAR IS A GATHERING OF PEOPLE, A. AND THEN B, HOW ARE WE GOING TO ENFORCE CDC GUIDELINES ON DISTANCING, MASKS, SANITIZING HANDS, ETC, ETC, SO THAT IN ORDER TO HAVE THIS WORK SHOP, WE CAN GET THIS INPUT SAFELY WITHOUT, A, FEAR FROM THE PUBLIC OF ATTENDING AND THEN SPREADING THE VIRUS IN AND OF ITSELF? THOSE ARE MY CONCERNS AROUND HAVING AN EVENT.

>> THOSE ARE ALL VERY VALID CONCERNS. THE PRELIMINARY CONCEPT IS TO CONDUCT THE WORK SHOP IN AN OPEN ENVIRONMENT SUCH AS THE PARK, REFERRED TO AS PARKING LOT C AND D WHICH ARE THE OPEN AREAS SOUTH OF THE BOAT RAMP. I'M WORKING WITH THE CONSULTANTS TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO DO THAT. WE MAY FIND A WAY TO, AGAIN, PUT THE CONCEPT E. OUT AVAILABLE FOR PUBLIC REVIEW AND OPEN A PERIOD OF PERHAPS A WEEK OF ONLINE PUBLIC COMMENT.

IF WE DON'T THINK WE'VE DONE A SUCCESSFUL PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT, IF WE'VE ONLY CONNECTED FOUR PEOPLE, WE CAN RESCHEDULE IT UNTIL WE GET TO A CRITICAL MASS THAT IF YOU'RE CONFIDENCE THAT WE MADE A GOOD EFFORT IN SECURING PUBLIC COMMENT SO YOU CAN MAKE AN INFORMED DECISION GOING FORWARD WITH THAT CONCEPT OR ANY REVISIONS TO THAT CONCEPT.

>> OKAY. OUR FIRST MEETING IN JULY, YOU'LL HAVE THAT?

>> WE'LL PROBABLY HAVE MORE OF IT TO SHARE WITH YOU WELL BEFORE THE JULY MEETING.

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>> THAT'S ALL I HAVE. >> 5.3 BEACHES. THAT WAS PLACED ON THE AGENDA

PER VICE MAYOR KREGER. YOU HAVE THE FLOOR. >> COUPLE THINGS I WANT TO BRING TO THE ATTENTION OF THE COMMISSION. FIRST IS BEACH PARKING.

THIS BEACH PARKING ISSUE CONTINUALLY COMES UP. WHAT I'D LIKE TO DO, YOU ALL SEE WHAT I SENT THE CITY MANAGER. OUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN IS VERY SPECIFIC AND HAS A POLICY TO DEAL WITH PARKING. ONE OF THE POLICIES IS THAT WE ESTABLISH WHAT IS ADEQUATE BEACH PARKING. WE PRESENTLY HAVE ABOUT 1,000 SPACES.

SO WHAT MY ISSUE THERE IS WE NEED TO DO SOMETHING. LET'S ESTABLISH WHAT WE HAVE FOR PARKING. INTERESTING POINT IS THAT I DID A LITTLE RESEARCH AND I WENT BACK TO LOOK AT BEACH LOADING, PEOPLE LOADING. I COULD FIND STUDIES FROM 1965 AND 1988. INTERESTINGLY ENOUGH, THEY ESTABLISHED BEACH LOADS.

IN 1988 WAS A STUDY HERE. IT TALKED ABOUT FIVE SQUARE FOOT PER PERSON.

AS AN EXAMPLE, THERE WOULD BE 1,000 PEOPLE AT THE BEACH. THAT BECOMES A RELEVANT ISSUE PARTICULARLY WITH COVID-19 ON WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT WITH OUR BEACHES.

IF WE ESTABLISH THOSE STANDARDS AND IT'S 1,000 PEOPLE AT THE MAIN BEACH AND IT'S TEN SQUARE FOOT OR GREATER AS YOU MOVE TO THE RESIDENTIAL AREA, THAT BASICALLY WILL LIMIT THE BEACHES AND PARKING LIMITS ACCESS TO THE BEACHES. I THINK THAT'S A GOAL WE WANT TO HAVE. SO THE POINT IS, IT'S IN THE COMP PLAN.

THE COMP PLANS NEED COMPLIED WITH. WE SHOULD LOOK AT THE STUDY AND COME UP WITH A STUDY. I HAVE TALKED WITH DIFFERENT PEOPLE AND I THINK THAT SHOULD HAPPEN. I WOULD ASK CITY MANAGER OR THE COMMISSION TO LOOK INTO THAT.

THE SECOND ITEM IS RIGHT NOW FDEP FLORIDA DEPARTMENT OF ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTION IS WRITING A RULES FOR BEACH MANAGEMENT FUNDING ASSISTANCE. THAT'S RENOURISHMENT IS BASICALLY DONE WITH THE FDEP. IT WILL BE MORE DIFFICULT TO GET OUR COST SHARE IF FDEP IS 90%.

IT WILL BE MORE DIFFICULT BECAUSE NEW RULES WILL FAVOR HIGH DENSITY, URBAN AREAS AS A SOUTH FLORIDA AREA. BECAUSE IT'S ONLY 9%, YOU CAN SAY THAT'S NOT A LOT, BUT EACH PERCENTAGE IS $600,000. IF WE WERE TO DO A FULL BEACH RENOURISHMENT, 2008 WAS $15 MILLION. TWO YEARS AGO, $32 MILLION FOR HALF OF IT.

THERE'S BIG MONEY INVOLVED. WE NEED TO START MOVING FORWARD SOON AS THESE RULES COME OUT AT THE END OF THE MONTH MOVING FORWARD ON THAT CONTRACT. THE ONLY OTHER THING I RECOMMEND TO THE CITY MANAGER THAT WE LOOK CLOSELY AT OUR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN.

NOW IS THE TIME WE NEED TO REQUEST INFRASTRUCTURE FUNDING FROM THE TEC OR BEACH PROJECTS.

THAT'S MY BEACHES, UNLESS YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS. >> COMMISSIONER ROSS, I SEE

YOU'RE RECOGNIZED. >> WE CAN DO ALL THE STUDIES IN THE WORLD AND SPEND MORE MONEY ON BEACH PARKING, BUT THE REALITY IS, THERE'S NO MORE LAND TO PUT ANY MORE BEACH PARKING.

WHAT YOU GOT IS WHAT YOU GOT. DO YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? IF YOU WANT TO PUT A PARKING GARAGE IN WITH 100 SPACES, YOU'RE TALKING $3 MILLION AND NO PLACE TO PUT IT.

A PARKING GARAGE, EVEN IF THERE WAS A PLACE TO PUT IT, IT IS $30,000 TO $60,000 PER PARKING SPACE. YOU CAN DO THE MATH. PERSONALLY, I DON'T THINK WE NEED ANOTHER STUDY. I DO THINK WE NEED TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO MANAGE BEACH PARKING AND I THINK ONE OF THE THINGS WE NEED TO START DOING IS WE HAVE ACRES OF ASPHALT.

START LOOKING TO SEE HOW WE CAN BRING PEOPLE TO THE BEACH INSTEAD OF PUTTING IN MORE PARKING. EVERY SUNDAY ME AND MY WIFE GO DOWN THERE.

EVERY SUNDAY, WE USUALLY DON'T GO SATURDAY, WE GO SUNDAY. AT 2 P.M. ALL THE BEACH PARKING

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IS FULL, 100% FULL. THERE'S ANYWHERE FROM 70 TO 170 CARS PARKED ALONG OCEAN AVENUE.

AND THERE'S CARS SPILLING OVER INTO THE NEIGHBORHOODS. THERE'S NO PLACE TO PUT THIS PARKING. I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO BRING UP THERE WAS AN IMPORTANT DEFINING WITH THE WILD LIFE MATTER IN THE COUNTY, WHERE THEY FOUND THAT THE COUNTY, WITHOUT GETTING INTO ALL THE LEGAL MUMBO JUMBO, THEY FOUND THE COUNTY IS BASICALLY RESPONSIBLE FOR ALL THE PARK, MAJOR PARKS FOR WILD LIFE. THE COUNTY WAS DEPENDING ON WILD LIFE TO PAY FOR THAT AND UNLESS THEY APPEAL IT, THE COUNTY IS ON THE HOOK. HOW DOES THAT IMPACT THE CITY? IT IMPACTS THE CITY IN THAT THEY ALSO ARE DOING A MASTER PLAN, RECREATION MASTER PLAN.

I HAVE READ THE DRAFT OF THAT MASTER PLAN. I HAVE BEEN IN MEETINGS ON THAT.

THE CITY OF FERNANDINA BEACH IS COMPLETELY IGNORED. ALL OF US PAY MORE IN COUNTY TAX THAN CITY TAX, AND YET THEIR RECREATION MASTER PLAN, THEY'RE GIVING US ABSOLUTELY NO MONEY AND NO PROJECTS. AND THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE EVEN LESS MONEY THAT WILD LIFE WILL BE PART OF THAT. ONE OF THE THINGS I WOULD LIKE IF WE COULD COME TO CONSENSUS IS DURING THIS BUDGET HAVE THE CITY -- YOU SAY GO TO THE TDC. WELL, THE TDC ISN'T GOING TO HAVE A WHOLE LOT OF MONEY IN THE DISTANT FUTURE. MOST OF THE MONEY IS NEEDED TO BRING TOURISTS HERE SO WE HAVE AN ECONOMY. I WOULD LIKE, IF WE CAN COME TO CONSENSUS, TO HAVE THE CITY MANAGER APPROACH THE COUNTY DURING THIS BUDGETING SESSION AND ASK THEM FOR 300, $500,000, WHATEVER TO HELP US WITH OUR RECREATION.

AS YOU KNOW, MANY OF THE COUNTY RESIDENTS USE THE CITY, USE IT AND THEY DON'T PAY.

I MEAN, EVERYBODY SAYS PAID BEACH PARKING. WELL, WE DO HAVE PAID BEACH PARKING. WE PAY FOR IT. THE CITY RESIDENTS PAY FOR BEACH PARKING. THERE HAVE BEEN STUDIES DONE, ON ONE-THIRD OF THE USE.

IT'S NONCITY RESIDENTS USING THIS PARKING AND CITY RESIDENTS CAN'T PARK.

SO I AGREE WITH YOU THAT WE NEED A PLAN TO MANAGE PARKING AND THAT PLAN SHOULD INTEGRATE HOW WE ACCESS ACROSS THE SAND DUNE AND HOW WE PRESERVE IT. THOSE THREE THING.

WE DON'T NEED A STUDY TO SHOW US WHERE WE CAN PUT MORE PARKING UNLESS YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT SATELLITE PARKING. I WOULD LIKE TO HEAR YOUR THOUGHTS ABOUT HAVING THE COMMISSION GO TO THE BUDGET COUNCIL AND SAY, HOW CAN YOU REACH OUT AND HELP US WITH BEACHFRONT PARKING AND THE BEACHFRONT PARKS THAT WE SUPPLY AND THE COUNTY, NOT CITY

RESIDENTS, COUNTY RESIDENTS USE. >> IF YOU'RE ASKING FOR THE CITY MANAGER TO GET DISCRETION TO ASK THE COUNTY FOR MORE MONEY, WE CAN ALL AGREE WITH THAT. LET ME GET MR. LEDNOVICH.

IF YOU USE YOUR LIGHT, I'LL GET TO YOU. >> IT'S MY AGENDA ITEM.

>> GO AHEAD. >> FIRST OF ALL, I'M NOT ADVOCATING A CONSULTANT STUDY.

I'M SAYING LET'S LOOK AT IT. COUPLE OTHER POINTS. THE OTHER IMPORTANT THING WHICH WE TALKED ABOUT BEFORE WAS PROTECTING THE PROPERTY RIGHTS ON NORTH FLETCHER AND OCEAN.

WE'RE DOING A TERRIBLE JOB ON THAT. THAT'S A CONTROL ISSUE.

I HAVE ACTUALLY SENT AN E-MAIL TO THE CITY MANAGER. I WAS AT THE WORK SHOP.

THIS IS KIND OF OFF THE SUBJECT OF BEACHES, IF IT'S ALL RIGHT WITH YOU.

I WAS AT THE WORKSHOP LISTENING TO COMMISSIONER LIEBER TALK ABOUT PARTNERSHIPS.

I ASKED THE CITY MANAGER IN THIS BUG HERE TO THINK ABOUT SENDING THE LETTER ASKING THE COUNTY FOR

A MILLION DOLLARS. >> YOU'RE BOLDER THAN I AM. >> WHAT I WOULD DO IS ELIMINATE DIFFERENTIALS BETWEEN CITY AND COUNTY AND THEY COULD GIVE US A MILLION DOLLARS.

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I THINK THAT'S A GREAT IDEA. I HAVE ALREADY DONE THAT. >> I'M SORRY.

>> THANK YOU. TO REITERATE WHAT COMMISSIONER ROSS SAID, THERE IS NO ENOUGH LAND IN THE CITY TO MEET THE DEMAND. THERE NEVER WILL BE.

SO THIS BUSINESS OF NEEDING MORE PARKING, NEED MORE PARKING, NEED MORE PARKING.

NO. WE ARE GONNA REACH A LIMIT OF MAXIMUM PARKING.

AND THE SCHOOL BOARD HAS ALREADY SAID THEY'RE NOT KEEN ON LETTING US USE THEIR PROPERTY, ACROSS FROM CENTRAL PARK, TO SHUTTLE PEOPLE. SO THERE'S ONLY SO MUCH LAND LEFT. AND IT BEHOOVE US TO RECOGNIZE THAT.

AND TO COMMISSIONER ROSS' POINT, THE LAND WE DO HAVE, THERE'S ONLY ONE WAY TO GO.

UP. CAN'T GO OUT. YOU GOTTA GO UP.

WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE RETURN ON INVESTMENT ON THAT, IT'S VERY EXPENSIVE, AS YOU KNOW.

BUT MY ORIGINAL QUESTION WAS, VICE MAYOR, THE POINT YOU MADE ABOUT THE FIVE SQUARE FEET PER PERSON IN ADOPTING THAT. DID YOU FACTOR HOW MANY SPOTS THAT EQUALLED?

YOU SAID WE HAD ABOUT 1,000. >> I DIDN'T ACTUALLY LOOK AT THAT.

THEOCUMENT TELLS YOU HOW MANY SPACES THERE ARE. I DON'T THINK WE HAD ENOUGH --

>> THE SPOTS WE HAVE NOW, ARE THEY FIVE SQUARE FEET? >> NO.

FIVE SQUARE FEET PER PERSON ON THE BEACH. THERE'S 213 PARKING SPOTS AT THE

MAIN BEACH. >> OKAY. RIGHT.

>> I SAY WE HAVE ADEQUATE PARKING, IN MY OPINION. >> RIGHT.

>> WE NEED IT MANAGED BETTER. THERE ARE PARTNERSHIP ISSUES THAT WE COULD WORK WITH, AS CHIP

MENTIONED. >> TO YOUR POINT, VICE MAYOR, THE CHALLENGE IS, HOW DO WE MANAGE THE PARKING? WHEN DO WE SAY, FOLKS, NO MORE SPOTS? SORRY. NO MORE SPOTS. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR.

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>> 5.4, MARINA. THIS WAS PLACED ON THE AGENDA AT THE REQUEST OF MR. ROSS.

YOU HAVE THE FLOOR. >> TWO THINGS. UTILITIES, THE FINE STAGE OF FINISHING THE MARINA SHOULD COMMENCE ON MONDAY WITH THE UTILITIES PEOPLE SHOWING UP HOPEFULLY TO PUT IN THE FUEL, THE ELECTRIC, THE WATER AND HOPEFULLY ALL GOES ACCORDING TO PLAN, OUR MARINA SHOULD BE FINISHED BY THE END OF JULY. THEN THE SECOND THING IF THE CITY MAYOR HAS TO BE MANAGER WOULD ASK THE PROCESS FOR EVALUATING MANAGEMENT OR HOW WE WOULD HAVE TO CHANGE OUR RELATIONSHIP WITH THE CURRENT MANAGEMENT OF THE CITY MARINA.

>> YES. THE CITY A FEW MONTHS AGO WENT OUT FOR REQUEST FOR PROPOSALS FOR MARINA MANAGEMENT SERVICES. CITY RECEIVED FIVE PROPOSALS AND IN COMBINATION WITH THOSE FIVE PROPOSALS, AS WELL AS THE CURRENT AGREEMENT WITH WEST REC, CITY STAFF FORWARDED THOSE SIX DOCUMENTS TO STAN TECH. IF YOU REMEMBER, STAN TECH WAS THE COMPANY THE CITY RETAINED TO DO AN ANALYSIS OF THE CITY'S GENERAL FUND, THE MARINA FUND AND GOLF COURSE FUND TO FIGURE OUT HOW WE EXORCISE OURSELVES FROM THE MARINA BURDEN? IN AN ATTEMPT TO GET AN OBJECTIVE OPINION, WE ASKED STAN TECH TO REVIEW THOSE PROPOSALS AND PROVIDE A RECOMMENDATION OR RANKING OF WHAT THEY BELIEVE THE PROPOSALS WERE AND THE BEST FINANCIAL INTEREST OF THE CITY.

WE'VE RECEIVED THOSE DOCUMENTS. THAT DOCUMENT, AS WELL AS ALL FIVE PROPOSALS, WERE ADDED TO THE MARINE ADVISORY BOARD AGENDA THIS MORNING. THAT AGENDA, WHICH WAS PUBLISHED LATE LAST WEEK, WAS AMENDED TO INCLUDE THOSE. SO THOSE DOCUMENTS ARE ALL AVAILABLE FOR THE PUBLIC TO REVIEW. AT MONDAY EVENING'S MARINA ADVISORY BOARD, I WILL MAKE A RECOMMENDATION TO MARINA ADVISORY BOARD AS TO WHAT I BELIEVE THE BEST FINANCIAL INTEREST OF THE CITY WILL BE. FROM THERE, THE MARINA ADVISORY BOARD WILL COME BEFORE YOU. THE CURRENT PLAN IS THAT RECOMMENDATION WILL BE BEFORE

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YOU AT THE SECOND MEETING IN JULY. THAT'S WHERE WE STAND IN THE

PROCESS RIGHT NOW. >> ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? >> RESOLUTION 2018-164 WAS A LOAN THE CITY DID FROM THE MARINA TO THE UTILITY FUND. I WOULD LIKE IF WE COULD CHANGE, OR AT LEAST LOOK AT THE RECOMMENDATIONS AND HAVE THE CITY COMPTROLLER TAKE THE RECOMMENDATIONS, HOW WE COULD DECREASE THE RATE OF THE LOAN WHICH IS NOW I THINK 4.35% WHICH IS THE THREE YEAR TREASURY LOAN AND REDUCE IT TO WHAT IT IS NOW 1.97% AND ALSO PUT IT OUT OVER 20 YEARS. THAT WOULD DECREASE THE PAYMENT THAT THE CITY IS MAKING AND HELP FUND THE DEBT BY PUTTING IT OUT OVER TIME. IF THEY COULD COME BACK, IF THERE WAS A CONSENSUS TO LOOK AT THAT AS ONE OF THE MECHANISMS FOR FUNDING THE MARINA DEBT.

>> IF I CAN, FOLLOWING THE RECOMMENDATION OF THE MARINE ADVISORY BOARD AND ACTUAL CITY COMMISSION ABOUT THE FIRM FOR THE MARINA IS, I HAVE ACTUALLY ASKED STAN TECH FOR A PROPOSAL THAT WOULD NOT ONLY CONSIDER THAT REVISION FOR PROJECTED REVENUE, BUT ALL TO CONSIDER WHAT COMMISSIONER ROSS HAS SAID ABOUT REFINANCING THAT LOAN. IF YOU REMEMBER WHEN STAN TECH WAS HERE, THEY WERE ABLE TO PLAY WITH THE NUMBERS AND THEY COULD CHANGE DIFFERENT FACTORS AND LOOK FORWARD INTO THE FUTURE. THIS MAY BE AN OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE STAN TECH VALIDATE OR INVALIDATE THE PROPOSITIONS THAT COMMISSIONER ROSS OR ANY OF THE OTHER YOU MAY HAVE WITH REGARD TO WHAT IS THE LONG TERM FINANCIAL PLAN FOR THE MARINA? WE'VE GOTTEN A PROPOSAL FROM STAN TECH. I'LL SEE HOW THE MARINA BOARD RECOMMEND EIGHT GOES AS TO WHAT

RECOMMENDATION WE PROVIDE STAN TECH. >> THANK YOU, SIR.

OKAY? ALL RIGHT. ITEM 5.5 OCEAN HIGHWAY PORT

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AUTHORITY. THIS ITEM WAS PLACED ON THE AGENDA OF COMMISSIONER ROSS.

>> WANT TO TALK ABOUT THE CHANNEL MOVING NOW OR WAIT UNTIL YOUR REPORT?

>> NOW'S A GREAT TIME. I SUBMITTED CHANGES TO THE ATTORNEYS.

>> CAN YOU COME TO THE MIC? >> GOOD IDEA. >> I DID CONTACT AND SENT IN A REVISED VERSION OF THE AGREEMENT WE HAVE RECEIVED AND I HAVE NOT GOTTEN ANY COMMENTS BACK YET.

THE OTHER -- DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT? >> ONE OF THE THINGS I THINK -- I DON'T THINK WE'LL EVER COME TO ANY AGREEMENT WITH THEM ABOUT MOVING THE CHANNEL.

ONE OF THE THINGS I'M GOING TO START LOOKING INTO IS HOW TO DECOMMISSION THAT CHANNEL.

>> RIGHT. >> THE LIKELY OF THAT EVER BEING USED IS CLOSE TO ZERO.

IT IS ON THE BOOKS OF THE CORPS OF ENGINEERS AND THEY'D LIKE IT OFF THEIR BOOKS.

>> THAT'S GOING STRAIGHT TO THE ARMY CORPS OF ENGINEERS. >> COMMISSIONER LEDNOVICH?

>> YOU'RE RECOGNIZED. >> NOTHING. NOTHING SINISTER OR UNTORRID.

YOU WERE AT THE -- YOU ATTENDED THE MEETING LAST WEEK? >> WE'LL TALK ABOUT THAT NEXT.

>> I WASN'T SURE WHETHER YOU WERE DONE AND WERE GOING TO DISCUSS THE FINANCES.

I'D LIKE TO GET AN UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT HAPPENED. >> ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANYBODY ELSE ON THE CHANNEL? NO? I WENT, AS I DO EVERY MONTH, GO TO THE OCEAN HIGHWAY PORT AUTHORITY MEETING. THEY HAD -- THEY FLOATED A BOND.

THEY GOT A BOND. PART OF THAT WAS TO BUILD A WAREHOUSE.

THEY WERE GOING TO PUT THE WAREHOUSE RIGHT ON THEIR CURRENT PROPERTY.

AND THEY WENT FORWARD AND HIRED SOMEBODY TO DO A DESIGN BUILD. THEY GOT ABOUT 30% OF THE WAY AND SAID, OOPS, TO BUILD THIS BUILDING BECAUSE THE SOIL IS SO POOR, IT'S GOING TO COST, IT WAS A HUGE AMOUNT OF MONEY. IT MADE IT FINANCIALLY UNFEASIBLE.

TURNS OUT YOU CAN'T BUILD A WAREHOUSE THERE. BY THAT TIME THEY HAD SPENT

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CLOSE TO $100,000. AND THE WAY THAT WAS -- WHO WAS GOING TO PAY FOR THAT WAS OUT OF THE BOND MONEY. BECAUSE IT WAS THROUGH A GRANT THROUGH THE STATE, THE OCEAN HIGHWAY PORT AUTHORITY HAD TO HIRE THEM. THEY WERE GOING TO GET REIMBURSED BECAUSE THIS WAS THE STATE. NOW IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT THEY'RE REFUSING TO PAY THAT. IT MAY GO TO LITIGATION. FIRST PEOPLE THEY ARE GOING TO SUE ARE THE OCEAN ISLAND PORT THOR BECAUSE THEY WERE THE ONES WHO HAD TO PUT IT IN.

SO THEY'RE OBLIGATED -- NOT OBLIGATED. IT'S COMPLICATED.

SECOND OF ALL, THE WAREHOUSE, THEY ALSO WENT TO THEM AND SAID WE NEED TO START LOOKING FOR ANOTHER PLACE TO PUT THE WAREHOUSE AND WE WANT YOU TO CHANGE THE BOND SO WE CAN DO THAT OFF SITE. THEY DIDN'T SAY WHERE THAT OFF SITE WAS, BUT THEY SAID NEAR THE PORT. YOU ALL KNOW WHERE WE LIVE, THERE'S NOT TOO MANY OTHER OPTIONS. SO WHERE THAT GOES, WHO KNOWS. THERE'S STILL NO MASTER PLAN FOR ANY OF THIS. WE HAVE NO IDEA WHAT THEIR LONG TERM PLAN IS.

SO THE OCEAN HIGHWAY PORT AUTHORITY IS TOLD WE'LL WORK IT OUT WITH THEM AND SEE WHERE ALL

THAT GOES. DOES THAT ANSWER YOUR QUESTION? >> YES, SIR.

THANK YOU. >> THE THIRD THING I JUST WANT TO BRING UP.

THERE'S TWO SEATS UP FOR ELECTION IN THE PORT. THE FIRST ONE DISTRICT ONE WHICH IS THE ISLAND ITSELF AND TODD ERIKSSON, MARY ANNE ROSE HILL AND ROBERT STURGESS.

THAT WILL BE IN THE PRIMARY ELECTION IN AUGUST, BUT BECAUSE THEY'RE UNOPPOSED, ANY INDEPENDENT OR DEMOCRAT REGISTERED, ANY REGISTERED VOTER CAN VOTE IN THAT.

I WOULD URGE ALL, ALL VOTERS TO VOTE IN THAT AND LOOK AT THAT RACE AND REMEMBER THE INCUMBENT HAS BEEN NO FRIEND OF OURS. ALSO IN DISTRICT 2, DANNY FOLEY IS NOW BEING OPPOSED BY JOE ZIMMERMAN. AND AGAIN, I WOULD URGE EVERYBODY -- MAKE YOUR OWN DECISIONS, BUT GO OUT AND VOTE IN THAT ELECTION, EVEN IF YOU'RE NOT A REPUBLICAN, YOU CAN VOTE IN THAT ELECTION. AND, AGAIN, REMEMBER THE INCUMBENT HAS BEEN NO FRIEND OF

OURS. >> I HAVE GOT A COUPLE OTHER THINGS ON THE PORT AUTHORITY

UNLESS YOU HAVE LIGHTS? >> I DO. >> I DON'T FEEL IT'S APPROPRIATE THAT THIS COMMISSION OR INDIVIDUALS THAT WE ENDORSE OR DON'T ENDORSE CANDIDATES IN

ANOTHER ELECTION. >> I WOULD AGREE WITH YOU. >> WAIT A SECOND.

>> I'M NOT DONE. THEY ARE NOT, IN MY CASE, THEY MIGHT BE A FRIEND OF MINE.

I THINK IT'S ANOTHER CASE OF WHERE WE'RE GOING OUT AND CONTINUING TO DECLARE WAR.

I THINK WE'RE NONPARTISAN AND IT'S A SMART MOVE TO MIND OUR BUSINESS.

YOU PERSONALLY VOTE FOR WHO YOU WANT, BUT I WOULD RECOMMEND EVERYBODY LOOK AT WHAT'S GOING

ON AND VOTE BASED ON INFORMATION AVAILABLE. >> COMMISSIONER ROSS.

>> I WOULD AGREE WITH YOU 100%. I WOULD AGREE WITH YOU 100%, EVERYBODY NEEDS TO MAKE THEIR OWN DECISION, BUT I WOULD URGE YOU -- I'LL PUT IT DIFFERENTLY. I APOLOGIZE.

WE SHOULD LOOK AT THEIR RECORD. THAT IS A MUCH BETTER WAY OF PUTTING IT.

I APOLOGIZE. LOOK AT THEIR RECORD. JUST LOOK AT THEIR RECORD,

THAT'S ALL. >> THANK YOU, SIR. YOU HAD SOMETHING ELSE?

>> SURE. JUST A COUPLE OF UPDATES TO LET YOU KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON.

EVERY PUBLIC MEDIATION IS OPEN TO THE PUBLIC. JULIE 15 AT THE FERNANDINA BEACH GOLF CLUB. RELATED TO THAT, I GOT A CALL TODAY FROM THE ATTORNEY GENERAL'S OFFICE. I KNOW COMMISSIONER ROSS KNOWS THIS BECAUSE HE GOES TO THE MEETING. THERE'S TWO THINGS THE ATTORNEY FOR THE PORT AUTHORITY IS SEEKING THAT HE HAS BEEN ASKED TO DO BY, I'M ASSUMING A MAJORITY IF NOT UNANIMOUSLY.

ONE IS AN ATTORNEY GENERAL OPINION RELATED TO THE MEDIATION.

MOST MEDIATIONS, IF YOU HAVEN'T BEEN INVOLVED IN THEM, YOU'VE PROBABLY AT LEAST HEARD THEY ARE SUPPOSED TO BE CONFIDENTIAL, BEHIND THE SCENES. WE'RE DOING A PUBLIC MEDIATION.

WE AGREED TO DO IT. WE'VE ALSO HAD A PHONE CONFERENCE, THE PORT AUTHORITY

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ATTORNEY AND MYSELF AND CARLOS ALVAREZ, THE MEDIATOR THAT'S BEEN ASSIGNED, OR HIRED BY US.

AND WE AGREED ON THE TELEPHONE IN THE CONFERENCE THAT WE WOULD HAVE A PUBLIC MEDIATION AND THAT WE WERE GOING TO LOOK INTO, TOGETHER, WHAT WE WOULD DECIDE AS BOTH WHAT WOULD BE CONFIDENTIAL. CERTAIN DOCUMENTS. JUST LAST YEAR THERE WAS AN APPELLATE CASE IN FLORIDA THAT SAID IN A TRANSCRIPT IF WE WENT INTO A SHADE MEETING, FOR EXAMPLE, AND WE HAD A TRANSCRIPT THAT INCLUDED DISCUSSION -- LET'S SAY YOU SENT ME TO A MEDIATION WITH THE PORT AUTHORITY. THE COURT FOUND THAT THE RECORDS FROM MEDIATION WERE ABSOLUTELY CONFIDENTIAL AND WOULD STAY THAT WAY FOREVER.

SO MR. BRANAM HAS ASKED IF HE CAN SEEK AN ATTORNEY GENERAL'S OPINION.

TODAY WHEN I GOT A CALL IT WAS JUST TO ASK WHAT MY TAKE ON THE QUESTION WAS AND WHETHER THE CITY WANTED TO JOIN. I SAID NO. I HOPE YOU ALL WOULD SUPPORT ME.

I'M NOT GONNA USE -- I THINK IT'S A WASTE OF TIME. I DON'T WANT TO BE RUDE.

I THINK IT'S WASTE OF TIME. WE DON'T NEED TO TAKE THE STATE'S TIME.

SO I HOPE YOU'LL SUPPORT ME. THEY'LL ASK ME IN WRITING TOMORROW IN AN E-MAIL, THE ATTORNEY GENERAL'S OFFICE, WHETHER WE WANT TO JOINLY SEEK THE OPINION WITH THE PORT

AUTHORITY AND ONSEE ANY REASON TO. >> I WOULD ABSOLUTELY SUPPORT THAT. THE ATTORNEY GENERAL'S OPINION, THEY HAVE TO WRITE AN OPINION.

THEY HAVE NO MONEY TO HIRE A LAWYER. >> THEIR LAWYER HAS TO FILE A

MEMORANDUM OF LAW. >> $200 AN HOUR OF OUR TAXPAYER MONEY.

>> AND THEN THE OTHER PART, WHICH I'M JUST GOING TO SAY PUBLICLY FROM WHAT I KNOW IS RIDICULOUS, AND THAT IS LOOKING AT WHETHER OR NOT ONE OF THE CANDIDATES, MERIAM HILL HAS A CONFLICT OF INTEREST THROUGH OUR CODE OF ETHICS. THAT'S A BAR COMPLAINT'S BEEN FILED. THAT'S ALSO WASTE OF TAXPAYER MONEY.

I HAVE CHOSE NOT TO COMMENT. I WON'T COMMENT OTHER THAN WHAT I JUST SAID HERE TO THE MEDIA OR OTHERWISE. JUST SO YOU KNOW WHAT MY OPINION IS.

WE HAVE RULES OF ETHICS. THIS IS ABOUT RUNNING FOR OFFICE AND WHETHER OR NOT WE GOT RECORDS WHEN MISS HILL WAS OUR SPECIAL MAGISTRATE, WHICH WAS TWO YEARS AGO, WHICH IS THE LAST TIME SHE SERVED US. REQUESTS ABOUT HOW WE PAID HER. SO I'M NOT SURE WHAT THEY'RE

GOING FOR. >> I SUPPORT YOUR DECISION. WE OUGHT TO STAY OUT OF THEIR

FIGHT WITH THE CANDIDATES. >> THEIR ATTORNEY OPINED THAT THAT WAS NOT A MATTER OF THE

HIGHWAY PORT AUTHORITY. >> THAT CONCLUDES ALL THE DISCUSSION ITEMS. WE'LL MOVE ON TO PUBLIC COMMENT. BEFORE I DO THAT, I WANT TO RECOGNIZE WE DO HAVE A CANDIDATE. RAISE YOUR HAND, SIR. I ASSUME YOU WILL BE AROUND TO ANSWER QUESTIONS AFTER THE MEE MEETING.

WELCOME TO THE COMMISSION, SIR. PUBLIC COMMENT REGARDING NOT ON THE AGENDA OR CONSENT AGENDA.

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MR. WENDALL MCGEHEE. THANK YOU FOR WAITING AROUND. >> I AM HERE FOR A NEW ORGANIZATION AROUND THE COUNTY THAT IS CELEBRATING DIVERSITY WITHIN THE COMMUNITY.

WE ARE GETTING READY TO DO WHAT IS CONSIDERED THE FIRST CELEBRATION OF THE JUNE TEENTH HOLIDAY. FOR THOSE WHO ARE DESCENDANTS OF THE AFRICAN DIOCESE, IT IS NOT JUST FOR THE AFRICAN-AMERICAN COMMUNITY BUT IS OPEN TO EVERYONE.

THAT IS WHY I'M HERE TO OFFER THE INVITATION TO YOU. WE ARE AWARE OF THE PANDEMIC THAT IS HERE WITH US, SO, THEREFORE, WE ARE IMPLEMENTING SOCIAL DISTANCING.

THIS IS AN OUTSIDE EVENT THAT WILL BE HELD NEXT SATURDAY, JUNE 20TH FROM 1 TO 7 AT PITT HIGH SCHOOL, AT THE FIELD. WE'RE ASKING PARTICIPANTS TO WEAR A MASK AND THAT YOU COVER

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YOURSELF ACCORDINGLY BY THE CDC GUIDELINE. THERE'S NO OBLIGATION TO YOU BUT WE WANTED TO OPEN THE FLOOR FOR YOU ALL TO BE THERE AT SOME POINT TO GREET INDIVIDUALS OR HOWEVER YOU FEEL COMFORTABLE WITH BEING OUT AND ABOUT, TO BE WITH US.

WE LOOK FORWARD TO THIS NOT JUST BEING THIS YEAR, BUT YEARS TO COME.

WE APPRECIATE ALL OF THE SUPPORT WE HAVE RECEIVED THUS FAR AND LOOK FORWARD TO WORKING WITH YOU

IN THE FUTURE. >> THANK YOU. IF YOU COULD STATE YOUR NAME AND

ADDRESS. >> WENDELL MCGAIN, FERNANDINA BEACH, FLORIDA.

I ALL HAVE A FEW FLYERS HERE. >> THAT'S GREAT. I WILL SAY THAT I MET WITH THIS GENTLEMAN HERE LAST WEEK AND WE HAD A GREAT CONVERSATION. ALSO, YOU DID A FANTASTIC JOB LAST SATURDAY. YOUR SPEECH WAS A VERY GOOD ONE. I LOOK FORWARD TO PRESENTING YOUR PROCLAMATION AND HOPE TO SEE A LOT OF PEOPLE THERE, SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

MR. JERRY BUTCH. STILL HERE? NOPE.

OKAY. ALL RIGHT. ON TO CONSENT AGENDA.

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DO I HAVE A MOTION? >> RECOMMEND APPROVAL. >> SECOND.

>> MOTION TO SECOND. >> COMMISSIONER KREGER. >> YES.

>> COMMISSIONER CHAPMAN. >> YES. >> COMMISSIONER LEDNOVICH.

>> YES. >> MAYOR MILLER. >> YES.

>> SECTION 8 RESOLUTIONS. THIS IS ITEM 8.1. PURCHASE POLICIES AND PROCEDURES

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FOR MANUAL AMENDMENT OR IMPACT FEES. CITY MANAGER?

>> I'M GOING TO TURN THIS OVER TO THE CITY ATTORNEY. >> OKAY.

CITY ATTORNEY. >> I WAS JUST READING THE JUNETEENTH FLYER.

SORRY ABOUT THAT. PURCHASE AND POLICIES. YES.

IT'S IN THE PURCHASE AND POLICIES MANUAL. I WROTE THIS.

I'M VERY FAMILIAR WITH STATE LAW. STATE LAW SAYS THIS IS PROBABLY A LITTLE MORE SPECIFIC THAN STATE LAW IS. WE'RE ESSENTIALLY DOING WHAT THIS POLICY IS PROPOSING. VICE MAYOR KREGER IS THE ONE WHO BROUGHT IT UP THAT HE'D LIKE TO SEE A WRITTEN POLICY. I BELIEVE IT'S THE CITY OF SEMINOLE, FLORIDA, HAS A POLICY

THAT READS VERY SIMILAR TO THIS. >> COMMISSIONER? >> YES.

I WOULD LIKE TO CHANGE SECTION 3 TWO PLACES. NUMBER ONE, WE TAKE SHALL OUT AND PUT IN MUST. AND THEN SECOND OF ALL WHERE IT SAYS CAN BE USED ONLY FOR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT COSTS, TAKE THAT OUT AND ADD LANGUAGE THAT'S ALREADY IN THE FLORIDA STATUTE THAT SAYS EXACTLY WHAT YOU CAN DO AND CAN'T DO, WHICH IS ACQUIRING CONSTRUCTING OR IMPROVING CAPITAL FACILITIES TO BENEFIT NEW USERS, REVENUES GENERATED BY THE IMPACT TEAM CANNOT BE USED IN WHOLE OR PART TO PAY EXISTING DEBT OR PREVIOUSLY APPROVED PROJECTS UNLESS THE EXPENDITURE IS REASONABLY CONNECTED TO OR HAS A RATIONAL NEXT SUS WITH INCREASE IMPACT GENERATED BY NEW RESIDENTIAL OR NONRESIDENTIAL CONSTRUCTION.

THOSE ARE EXACTLY THE WORDS OUT OF THE FLORIDA STATUTE. WHY WE WOULD NOT PUT IN THE FLORIDA STATUTE AS TO WHAT WE CAN DO OR NOT DO. IT IS MORE EXPANSIVE THAN WHAT'S PUT HERE. I'M GOING TO MOVE THAT WE ADOPT THIS WITH THESE CHANGES.

>> IS THERE A MOTION? >> YES. >> I SECOND THE MOTION.

>> THANK YOU. I HAVE A MOTION AND SECOND. VICE MAYOR KREGER?

>> I THINK IT SHOULD SAY THE STATE STATUTE, YOU KNOW, AND THE KEY ISSUE THEY CAN FINANCE DEBT FOR PROJECTS THAT ARE APPROVED NOT AFTER THE FACT. WE STARTED OUT HAVING NO IMPACT FEES. THEN THEY WERE MASSIVE. I THINK WE'RE IN GOOD SHAPE.

>> THANK YOU, SIR. COMMISSIONER LEDNOVICH, YOU'RE RECOGNIZED, SIR.

>> I'M JUST INTERESTED IN INTERPRETATION OF THE STATE STATUTE THAT YOU JUST READ.

DOES THAT INCLUDE COLLATERAL USE? AND BY THAT WHAT I MEAN IS, WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT GROWTH, WE KNOW GROWTH IS OVER THE BRIDGE BUT THEY USE OUR FACILITIES.

ANYONE WHO WAS AT THE RECREATION PLANNING FOR THE COUNTY KNOWS THAT THERE IS ZERO MONEY FOR ANY

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MORE RECREATIONAL FACILITIES FINANCED BY THE COUNTY. SO WHAT I'M ASKING FOR IS THE INTERPRETATION OF THE STATUTE. CAN WE USE IMPACT FEES FOR ANTICIPATED USE BECAUSE OF

GROWTH OVER THE BRIDGE AND COMING AND USING OUR FACILITIES? >> NO.

AND IT'S BECAUSE THERE HAS TO BE A DUAL RATIONAL NEXUS BETWEEN THE PERSON -- LOT OF TIMES IT'S A DEVELOPER. BUT THE PERSON WHO PAYS THE FEE AND WHAT THEY GET FOR IT.

SO YEAH, NO. >> THANK YOU. >> YOU'RE WELCOME.

>> DO WE HAVE A SECOND? MADAM CLERK, PLEASE CALL THE VOTE, MA'AM.

>> COMMISSIONER ROSS. >> YES. >> VICE MAYOR KREGER.

>> YES. >> COMMISSIONER CHAPMAN. >> YES.

>> COMMISSIONER LEDNOVICH. >> YES. >> MAYOR MILLER?

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>> YES. 2020-04 AND 2020-09. >> THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR.

I HAVE MR. COYLE HERE IF YOU HAVE SPECIFIC QUESTIONS. THIS IS AN AWARD TO REHABILITATE RUNWAY 4/22 WHICH IS THE PRIMARY RUNWAY AT THE AIRPORT DUE TO CARES FUNDING THIS $2.2 MILLION PROJECT WILL BE FUNDED AT 100% BY THE FAA. THIS IS THE PROPOSED WORK ORDER TO PROVIDE FOR TKPWRAPB ADMINISTRATION, BIDDING, OBSERVATION SERVICES AS REQUIRED BY THE FAA GRANT OBLIGATIONS. THEIR SERVICES WILL NOT EXCEED $229,700.

STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL. >> RECOMMEND APPROVAL. >> I'LL SECOND.

>> MOTION TO SECOND. MADAM CLERK, PLEASE CALL THE VOTE.

>> COMMISSIONER KREGER. >> YES. >> COMMISSIONER CHAPMAN.

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? >> COMMISSIONER ROSS? >> YES.

>> COMMISSIONER LEDNOVICH? >> YES. >> THIS IS A BID FOR IMPROVEMENTS AND UPGRADES TO THE NORTHERN DOCKS THAT ARE NOT BEING TENUATED, NORTH N2 AND N3.

THOSE DOCKS WERE DAMAGED BUT THE DOCKS REMAIN IN SERVICE. THIS IS RECOMMENDED AWARD

$63,851. >> THANK YOU, SIR. COMMISSIONER ROSS, YOU'RE

RECOGNIZED. >> I SUPPORT THIS FOR THREE REASONS.

WELL, THIS WAS FOR MAINTENANCE THAT'S BEEN NEGLECTED OVER THE YEARS.

PUT THOSE ROCKS THROUGH THAT WE TALKED ABOUT IN THE PAST AND PUT IN NEW WHALERS.

I WOULD SUPPORT THE PEOPLE BEING HIRED FOR A COUPLE REASONS. NUMBER ONE THEY DID THE PREVIOUS WORK ON THE NORTHERN PART OF THE TENUATOR. THEIR WORK WAS FOUND TO BE SATISFACTORY AND THEY WERE EASY TO WORK WITH. GOOD PEOPLE.

SECOND, WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE BITS AND DRILL DOWN. THERE WERE THREE BIDS.

TWO OF THEM, THEY PUT A BID PRICE IN FOR USING FIBERGLASS ROCK AND THIS COMPANY DID NOT.

I DRILLED DOWN TO FIGURE OUT WHY THEY DIDN'T. TURNS OUT, THEY WERE THE ONLY ONES WHO DID THEIR HOMEWORK AND FOUND FIBERGLASS ROCK WON'T FIT THROUGH THE HOLES IN OUR TENNUATER. THAT TELLS ME SOMETHING ABOUT THAT COMPANY, WHICH I HAVE IMPRESSED WITH. NUMBER THREE, THEY'RE THE LOWEST PRICE SO I MOVE TO ACCEPT.

>> SECOND. >> MOTION TO SECOND. MADAM CLERK, WOULD YOU PLEASE

CALL THE VOTE, MA'AM. >> COMMISSIONER ROSS. >> YES.

>> SECRETARY KREGER. >> YES. >> COMMISSIONER LEDNOVICH.

>> YES. >> COMMISSIONER CHAPMAN. >> YES.

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>> MAYOR MILLER. >> YES. >> 2020-03.

CITY MANAGER? >> CITY STAFF SOLICITED COMPETITIVE BIDS FOR CONSTRUCTIONS OF THE PARK LOCATED ON SIMMONS ROAD. THIS WAS PUBLISHED IN LATE APRIL. BIDS WERE RECEIVED AND OPENED MAY 28TH.

THE LOW BIDDER IS COLE BIDDERS. WE RECOMMEND GIVING THE BID TO CBI DOING BUSINESS ADDS COLE

BUILDERS. >> MOTION TO APPROVE. >> SECOND.

>> MOTION TO SECOND. COMMISSIONER LEDNOVICH, I BELIEVE YOU GOT IN FIRST.

>> YES. I HAVE A COUPLE QUESTIONS ABOUT THIS.

ONE IS THAT AS FAR AS I KNOW COLE BUILDERS BUILDS HOUSES. I TRIED TO DO SOME RESEARCH IF

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THEY HAD EVER BUILT A PARK. DO WE KNOW IF THEY'VE EVER BUILT A PARK?

>> SHE'S RESPONDING SHE'S NOT SURE. >> WE DON'T KNOW IF THEY EVER

BUILT A PARK, CORRECT? >> CORRECT. >> THE SECOND QUESTION I HAD WAS ABOUT THE BID. IT WAS RATHER UNUSUAL WHEN IT CAME TO THE OPTION OF THE GRA GRANITE, THE COLE BUILDER WENT DOWN BY $16,000.

THREE OTHER BIDDERS WHO BID ON THAT OPTION, ALL THEIR BIDS WENT UP FROM A MINIMUM OF 30,000 TO A MAXIMUM OF 178,000. SO DOES COLE BUILDERS HAVE IT RIGHT OR DO THE THREE OTHER PEOPLE WHO BID ON THE OPTION HAVE IT RIGHT? MY THEORY IS IF WE GO WITH THE GRANITE, THEN COLE RUNS INTO A SITUATION WHERE THEY GO, OOPS, MAYBE WE DIDN'T BID THIS

CORRE CORRECTION. >> DO YOU HAVE ANY ANSWERS FOR

THAT? >> I CAN SPEAK WITH THE BIDDER THAT HOPEFULLY WILL BE AWARDED THE BID AND ASK THE SAME QUESTION. HE DID DO HIS RESEARCH AND HE WAS WONDERING WHY THE OTHER BIDDERS INCREASED THEIRS. WHETHER THEY DID THE RESEARCH ON THE ACTUAL MATERIAL BECAUSE IT WAS SPECIFIED AS BRAND OF GRANITE, I DON'T KNOW, BUT HE DID. HE CONFIRMED WITH ME THAT IT WAS LESS THAN THE CONCRETE.

>> THE MATERIAL THEN, IS IT LESS MONEY? >> ACCORDING TO HIM, HE DID THE RESEARCH. WHEN I CHOSE THAT PARTICULAR ITEM TO MAKE THE PARK A LITTLE MORE ENVIRONMENTALLY FRIENDLY, IT DIDN'T SEEM THAT IT WAS GOING TO BE AN INCREASE IN THE TOTAL COST, BUT I DID BID IT SEPARATELY JUST TO BE ABLE TO SEE IF THERE WAS GOING TO BE A SUBSTANTIAL DIFFERENCE, WHICH THERE REALLY IS NOT. BUT HE DID SPAECIFY THAT HE DID

THE RESEARCH. >> THANK YOU. >> COMMISSIONER ROSS?

>> I'M GOING TO VOTE FOR THIS. I TOTALLY SUPPORT MAKING ALL CITY PARKS ACCESSIBLE TO ALL CHILDREN. I OPPOSE THIS PROJECT FOR A MULTITUDE OF REGIONS.

THE FIRST BEING IT ADVERSELY IMPACTS ENVIRONMENTALLY SENSITIVE LAND.

TWO IT ADDS ANOTHER PLAYGROUND TO THE EXISTING SEVEN CITY PLAYGROUNDS ALREADY WHICH THE CITY CANNOT MAINTAIN. THREE, IT'S PERMANENTLY INCREASE THE PARK'S OPERATING EXPENSES WITHOUT ANY MECHANISMS TO PAY FOR THAT INCREASE. FOUR, THE MONEY SHOULD BE SPENT TO MAKE, I BELIEVE, TO MAKE EXISTING PARKS TO ALL CHILDREN AN REMOVE LAND FROM THE GOLF COURSE FUNDS WITHOUT REPAYING THE GOLF COURSE. IT BENEFITS A GREAT NUMBER OF NONCITY RESIDENTS WITHOUT THE COUNTY CONTRIBUTING ANY MONEY TO THIS.

I CANNOT SUPPORT THIS. >> THANK YOU, SIR. AND SEEING NO FURTHER LIGHTS

MADAM CLERK? >> COMMISSIONER CHAPMAN. >> YES.

>> KREGER. >> YES. >> COMMISSIONER ROSS?

>> NO. >> COMMISSIONER LEDNOVICH? >> I'M NOT GOING TO SUPPORT THIS, PRIMARILY BECAUSE OF THE FINANCIAL FUTURE THAT IS UNKNOWN.

IT'S $400,000. AS I STATED SPECIFICALLY, WE CAN DEFER THIS PROJECT, WE CAN POSTPONE IT UNTIL WE KNOW THE FINANCIAL IMPACT ON THIS CITY. THAT'S A LOT OF MONEY TO SPEND ON A PARK. THEN WE HAVE TO MAINTAIN THE PARK.

SO I VOTE NO. >> MAYOR MILLER? >> YES.

WITH THAT, WE'LL TAKE A FIVE MINUTE RECESS.

>> OKAY. WE ARE BACK IN SESSION. IT IS 1934.

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MOVING ON TO 8.5 THIS IS AN AGREEMENT AMENDMENT TO THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONER OF NASSAU

COUNTY. >> THIS IS A MOVEMENT TO THE AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE CITY AND COUNTY RELATED TO OCEAN RESCUE SERVICES. CITY HAD RECENTLY EXTENDED THE SEASON BEYOND THE TRADITIONAL LABOR DAY WEEKEND DUE TO THE DEMAND ON THE BEACHES WHICH YOU REFERRED TO EARLY THIS EVENING. THIS IS REQUEST FOR AMENDMENT INCREASE OF $17,000 FOR

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PERSONNEL COSTS BEGINNING OCTOBER OF THIS YEAR. COUNTY AGREED TO THIS, SO THIS

IS ON OUR AGENDA FOR APPROVAL. >> APPROVAL. >> SECOND.

>> PLEASE CALL THE VOTE. >> VICE MAYOR KREGER. >> YES.

>> COMMISSIONER LEDNOVICH. >> YES. >> COMMISSIONER ROSS.

>> YES. >> COMMISSIONER CHAPMAN. TKPWHR YES.

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>> MAYOR MILLER? >> YES. >> 8.6 BUDGET AMENDMENT MARINA.

20-85. >> THIS IS A BUG AMENDMENT FOR THREE PROJECTS AT THE MARINA.

NUMBER ONE DUE TO THE THRAOEUPBL OF THE MARINA RECONSTRUCTION TEMPORARY RESTRICTIONS OF ASSOCIATED STAFF HAS TO BE EXTENDED. PODS THAT ARE DOWN AT THE MARINA STORE SOME OF OUR CONSTRUCTION EQUIPMENT AND ADDITIONAL FUND. TOTAL AMOUNT OF APPROXIMATELY

$6,400. >> MOVE TO APPROVE. >> SECOND.

>> MOTION TO SECOND. MADAM CLERK, PLEASE CALL THE VOTE, MA'AM.

>> COMMISSIONER LEDNOVICH. >> YES. >> VICE MAYOR KREGER.

>> YES. >> COMMISSIONER CHAPMAN. >> YES.

>> COMMISSIONER ROSS. >> YES. >> MAYOR MILLER.

>> YES. >> THANK YOU. >> 8.7 PERSONNEL POLICY MANUAL

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AMENDMENT. CITY MANAGER. >> THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR.

IN THE ABSENCE OF HUMAN RESOURCE DIRECTOR, WE'RE MAKING SOME PROVISIONS CHANGE TO OUR PERSONNEL POLICY MANUAL. ALL OF THE CHANGES ARE REFERENCED IN THE SUMMARY DOCUMENT. MOST SIGNIFICANT ONES INCLUDE REVISION TO THE CITY'S MERIT PAY PROPOSAL. CODIFIES EXISTING UNIFORM BENEFITS, HEALTH INSURANCE, CLARIFIES SPOUSE AND DOMESTIC ELIGIBILITY SOME OTHER SAFETY GLASS EXPENSES.

MOST OF THE OTHER THINGS ARE MINOR LANGUAGE CLEARUPS. IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTION, STAFF

RECOMMENDS APPROVAL. >> RECOMMEND APPROVAL. >> SECOND IT.

>> I HAVE A MOTION TO SECOND. MADAM CLERK. >> VICE MAYOR KREGER.

>> YES. >> COMMISSIONER CHAPMAN. >> YES.

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>> COMMISSIONER ROSS. >> YES. COMMISSIONER LEDNOVICH?

>> YES. >> MR. MAYOR. >> YES.

>> 20-8. >> THERE HAVE BEEN ON GOING DISCUSSIONS ABOUT BEACH MANAGEMENT PLAN. I BELIEVE THIS IS A DOCUMENT THAT THE CORPS OF ENGINEERS COMPLETED. REFERRED TO ERED TO THEIR ENGIN DOCUMENT REPORT.

I DON'T THINK IT MEETS ALL OF OUR NEEDS BUT BRINGS A GUIDANCE DOCUMENT ESPECIALLY WITH REGARD TO VEHICULAR AND PEDESTRIAN ACCESS SO I THINK WE CAN USE THAT TO BUILD UPON A IMPLEMENTATION PLAN. STAFF RECOMMENDS THAT YOU ADOPT THIS AS A GUIDING DOCUMENT FOR BEACH ACCESS. STAFF WILL RETURN WITH RECOMMENDED PLAN.

>> I WILL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THIS WITH ONE SMALL CORRECTION CHANGE.

WHERE IT SAYS ENGINEERING DOCUMENT REPORT AS A GUIDING DOCUMENT.

CHANGE THAT TO ONE OF THE GUIDING DOCUMENTS. >> I'LL SECOND IT WITH THAT

CHANGE. >> MR. LEDNOVICH? >> QUESTION FOR COMMISSIONER ROSS ON ADJUSTMENT OF THE MOTION. WHAT OTHER DOCUMENTS WOULD BE

INCLUDED? WHAT OTHER GUIDING DOCUMENTS? >> COMPREHENSIVE PLANS, GILLETTE REPORT ON THE BEACH, BEACH ACCESS PLAN. THERE'S A WHOLE BUNCH OF DOCUMENTS OUT THERE. THIS IS A VERY IMPORTANT DOCUMENT.

JUST MAKES IT CLEAR THAT THERE ARE OTHER DOCUMENTS. >> THANK YOU.

>> MADAM CLERK, PLEASE CALL THE VOTE. >> COMMISSIONER ROSS.

>> YES. >> VICE MAYOR KREGER. >> YES.

>> COMMISSIONER LEDNOVICH? >> YES. >> MAYOR MILLER?

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>> YES. 9.1 PROPOSED CHARTER AMENDMENT. CITY ATTORNEY?

>> PLEASE BEAR WITH ME. IT'S A VERY LONG TITLE. ORDINANCE 2020-21 IN ACCORDANCE OF THE CITY COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF FERNANDINA BEACH, FLORIDA, SUBMITTING TO THE CITY ELECTORS PROPOSED AMENDMENTS AMENDING SECTION 1 TO REFLECT ACCURATE HISTORY OF THE CREATION OF THE CITY OF FERNANDINA BEACH, AMENDING SECTION 9 TO CHANGE GROUP TO SEAT FOR CITY COMMISSIONER FORCE CLARITY. AMENDING SECTION 10 TO REQUIRE CITY COMMISSIONERS TO COMPLETE PERFORMANCE EVALUATIONS FOR CHARTER OFFICERS ANNUALLY AND TO INCLUDE PENALTIES FOR

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COMMISSIONERS INTERFERING WITH ADMINISTRATIVE SERVICE AND THEN SECTION 10A TO PROVIDE CONSERVATION LANDS CAN NEVER BE SOLD OR LEASED BY THE CITY AND TO PROVIDE RECREATION LANDS CAN ONLY BE SOLD OR LEASED FOR 40 YEARS OR MORE WITH UNANIMOUS VOTE OF THE CITY COMMISSION AND 70% OF VOTERS APPROVAL AT A REFERENDUM ELECTION. AMENDING SECTION 11 BY INCORPING SECTIONS 14, 15, 20 REGARDING QUALIFICATIONS OF CITY COMMISSIONERS, ABSENCES AND VACANCIES, ADDRESSING CODE OF ETHICS AND STATE LAW FOR COMMISSIONERS.

REPEALING SECTIONS 14, 15, 20 BY INCORPORATING THESE SECTION I.N.S. TO SECTION 11.

AMENDING 16 BY CHANGING STRAW BALLOT TO BINDING VOTE OF THE PEOPLE FOR MAYOR, REQUIRING THAT MAYORAL CANDIDATE WITH SECOND HIGH EF VOTES BE ELECTED AS VICE MAYOR.

AMENDING SECTION 17 BY MAKING THE MAYOR RESPONSIBLE FOR COMPLETION OF CHARTER OFFICER EVALUATIONS BY COMMISSIONERS. AMENDING SECTION 21 BY INCLUDING A PROVISION TO ALLOW COMMISSIONERS TO ATTEND COMMISSION MEETINGS USING COMMUNICATION TECHNOLOGY DUE TO A SERIOUS MEDICAL CONDITION IN COMPLIANCE WITH STATE LAW. AMENDING SECTION 25 BY INCLUDING MINIMUM PROFESSIONAL QUALIFICATIONS FOR CITY MANAGER, INCREASING THE TIME FOR NEW CITY MANAGER TO BECOME CITY RESIDENT FROM 30 TO 90 DAYS AND REQUIRING DESIGNATION OF CITY MANAGER PRO TEM. AMENDING SECTION 136 ALLOWING COMMISSION TO AUTHORIZE INVESTIGATIONS BY MAJORITY VOTE AND CLARIFYING THAT CITY COMMISSIONERS, CHARTER OFFICERS AND MEMBERS OF APPOINTED CITY BOARDS HAVE THE POWER TO INVESTIGATE A DEPARTMENT, OFFICER OR EMPLOYEE. AMENDING RESERVED SECTION 142 TO REQUIRE THE CHARTER TO BE REVIEWED EVERY SEVEN YEARS BY A CHARTER REVIEW COMMITTEE MADE UP OF CITY RESIDENTS PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY AND PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE. I KNOW THE CHAIR IS HERE MISS ARLENE FILLKOFF. I WANTED TO SAY IN GENERAL MY ROLE ON ADVISING THE CHARTER REVIEW COMMISSION IS TO MAKE SURE THAT WHAT THEIR RECOMMENDED ARE, THAT THEY'RE LEGAL, THEY CAN BE SUPPORTED BY THE LAW AND ARE NOT INCONSISTENT WITH STATE LAW AND THEY'RE NOT EXPRESSLY PROHIBITED BY STATE LAW. OTHER THAN THAT, I AM NOT TAKING OWNERSHIP FOR ANY OF OPINIONS AND CONTENT THAT THEY HAVE, OTHER THAN THE LEGALITY OF THAT. SO, ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS FOR

ME? OKAY. >> I DO HAVE A QUESTION.

SECTION 9A. WHAT THAT BASICALLY IS DOING THE CHANGING THE QUALIFICATION DATE?

>> IT IS. IT CAN BE SEEN THAT WAY. >> DO WE HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO

DO THAT? >> YES, BECAUSE YOU SET YOUR QUALIFYING DATES AS IT IS BY

RESOLUTION. >> ALL THAT REALLY DOES IS CHANGES THE QUALIFYING DATE

THREE MONTHS EARLIER. >> RIGHT. >> RIGHT NOW YOU HAVE TO QUALIFY BY JULY 17TH. SO CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, BUT I'M RIGHT, ON JULY 17 AT 4:15 P.M., ANY PERSON IN THIS CITY WHO IS A REGISTERED VOTER OVER THE AGE OF 18 CAN WALK IN WITH A

CHECK, WITH TWO CHECKS AND BE QUALIFYED? >> YES.

>> THIS IS DESIGNED TO DO WHAT ONE CANDIDATE HAS ALREADY DONE, CHANGE GROUPS.

WHEN YOU'RE CHANGING GROUPS, THAT'S A REALLY BIG DEAL. YOU HAVE TO CHANGE YOUR BANK

ACCOUNT, YOUR CHECKS. >> YEAH. >> SO I DON'T UNDERSTAND HOW THIS -- THAT'S WHAT THIS WAS DESIGNED TO PREVENT AND IT DOESN'T PREVENT IT.

ALL IT DOES IS TAKES THE QUALIFYING DATE AND MOVES IT THREE MONTHS BEFORE BUT DOESN'T

CHANGE THAT. >> RIGHT. I'M JUST LETTING EVERYBODY KNOW THE LANGUAGE YOU'RE REFERRING TO. RIGHT NOW THERE IS NOTHING IN THE CHARTER OR ANYWHERE ELSE THAT WOULD PREVENT SOMEBODY FROM CHANGING THEIR GROUP AND MOVING TO ANOTHER GROUP TO RUN FOR COMMISSIONER IN THE SAME ELECTION UP UNTIL THE END OF QUALIFYING. THIS YEAR JULY 17TH. COMMISSION SET THE QUALIFYING DATES BY RESOLUTION EVERY YEAR. WE DID THAT EARLIER I THINK IT WAS APRIL OR MARCH MAYBE.

WE SENT THAT FOR THE SUMMER. EVERY TWO YEARS. THE LANGUAGE THAT HE'S REFERRING TO SAYS THAT A CANDIDATE MUST FINALLY DECLARE THEIR SEAT AT LEAST 90 DAYS BEFORE THE END OF QUALIFYING. I CAN TELL YOU THAT JUST PARAPHRASING AND SUMMARIZING WHAT THE CHARTER REVIEW COMMITTEE DISCUSSED, THEIR DESIRE WAS THEY DIDN'T WANT WHAT THEY REFERRED TO AS GAME PLAYING BY PEOPLE RUNNING FOR COMMISSION.

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THAT WAS REALLY IT. WE DIDN'T GO ON FOR DAYS. JUST SAID WE DIDN'T THINK PEOPLE SHOULD BE ABLE TO SWITCH THEIR DAYS. WE WANT TO KNOW WHO'S RUNNING FOR THOSE SEATS AT A SPECIFIC TIME. RIGHT NOW IT'S THE END OF UALIFYING. THEY PROPOSE IT BE 90 DAYS

BEFORE THAT. >> IT DOESN'T PREVENT YOU FROM GAMING THE SYSTEM.

YOU CAN JUST WAIT UNTIL THE END. >> I THINK THAT WAS MADE AT THE CHARTER REVIEW MEETING.

SOMEBODY MIGHT KEEP SOME CANDIDATES FROM COMING OUT EARLIER.

>> RECOMMENDATION? >> I HAD A COUPLE QUESTIONS ON SEVERAL OF THE SECTIONS.

>> OKAY. >> SO SECTION 25 ON THE SELECTION OF A CITY MANAGER WHERE IT STATES MUST HAVE PRIOR EXPERIENCE MANAGING ONE GOVERNMENT ORGANIZATION WITH AT LEAST 250 EMPLOYEES AND SEVERAL DEPARTMENTS. I FELT THAT WAS VERY LIMITING FOR AN EXECUTIVE JOB SEARCH, THAT YOU WOULD BE OMITTING A WHOLE HOST OF PEOPLE TRYING TO CLIMB UP THE NEXT RUNG OF THE LADDER. WHERE DID 250 COME FROM? DOES THE COMMITTEE FIND THAT LIMITING IN THE CANDIDATE SEARCH? I WOULD THINK A QUALIFICATION THAT WOULD BE BETTER WOULD BE A CITY WITH AN AIRPORT, GOLF COURSE, BEACHES. BUT THAT'S EVEN MORE LIMITED, RIGHT?

>> THAT IS. >> I UNDERSTAND THE INTENT. I THINK 250 EMPLOYEE QUALIFICATION IS TOO STRINGENT. PART AND PARCEL WITH THAT IS WHEN IT TALKS ABOUT THE QUALIFICATIONS OF THE CITY ATTORNEY AND CITY CLERK, THERE IS NO MENTION OF THAT.

SO YOU MUST NOT HAVE BEEN A CITY MANAGER FOR A CITY WITH 250 EMPLOYEES OR CITY CLERK WITH 250 EMPLOYEES. IF YOU'RE GOING TO MAKE IT THAT WAY FOR ONE CHARTER OFFICER, WHY NOT MAKE IT ACROSS THE BOARD? THOSE ARE MY COMMENTS ON THAT PARTICULAR SECTION.

THEN SECTION 69 WHERE IT TALKS ABOUT ADVISORY COMMITTEE TO THE CITY COMMISSION AND CITY MANAGER, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THE ADVISORY TO THE CITY MANAGERS, THOSE COMMITTEE MEETINGS WITH

PUB PUBLIC. >> WE DID NOT GET TO SECTION 69 FOR THIS PARTICULAR ORDINANCE. THE GOAL OF THE CHARTER REVIEW COMMITTEE WAS TO GO THROUGH THE ENTIRE CHARTER. MOST LIKELY THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN COMPLETED.

WE HAD TO STOP -- JUNE 30 IS OUR VERY LAST MEETING. WE WILL HOPEFULLY GET FOR ALL OF IT. QUESTIONS FOR THE BALLOT AND THIS ORDINANCE IS JUST FOCUSED ON THOSE 11 QUESTIONS. 69 IS NOT INCLUDED. THE ENTIRE CHARTER, EVERY

SECTION IS IN THEREOF. >> SORRY. >> THAT'S OKAY.

THAT'S A GOOD POINT. >> MY FINAL POINT WAS ON 142 WHERE IT TALKS ABOUT EVERY SEVEN YEARS WHICH WOULD BE 2027. THEN THE LANGUAGE SAYS FOLLOWED BY ODD NUMBERD YEARS.

WELL 2027, 2034 THAT'S SEVEN YEARS. AND IT'S AN EVEN NUMBER.

IT SHOULD JUST SAY SEVEN YEARS. >> I GUESS SO. THE POINT IS TO BRING UP WHAT WE WERE THINKING. THAT'S THE THING. LAST COUPLE MEETINGS, WE WERE

JUST WHIPPING THROUGH IT. >> I WAS THERE. >> THAT'S A VERY GOOD POINT.

>> THAT WAS MY SUGGESTION. NOT THAT IT WORKS, BUT TO HAVE THE CHARTER REVIEW COMMITTEE ESTABLISHED AND WORKING THE YEAR BEFORE THE ELECTION SO YOU CAN HAVE THE BALLOT QUESTIONS READY

AND YOU DON'T HAVE A STALE RECOMMENDATION. >> THAT'S ALL I HAVE.

>> THANK YOU. >> VICE MAYOR KREGER. >> I AGREE WITH MIKE ON THE 250 PEOPLE CRITERIA. THAT REALLY LIMITS THE POOL AND LIMITS PEOPLE WHO COULD BE WELL

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QUALIFIED. MY OTHER QUESTION IS, THIS IS THE FIRST READING.

SECOND READING WILL BE JULY 21ST. IN BETWEEN WE'LL HAVE THE JOINT

MEETING. IS THIS THE FINAL? >> THIS IS FIRST READING.

FINAL WILL BE IN JULY. >> THERE WILL BE CHANGES? >> THERE VERY WELL BE CHANGES.

BUT WHAT WE HAVE TO DO, DEPENDING ON WHAT THE CHANGES ARE, WE NEED TO GO TO THE PUBLIC MEETING AND FIGURE OUT WHETHER WE'LL HAVE ONE MORE. OR WE CAN HAVE IT POTENTIALLY

THE FIRST MEETING IN AUGUST. WE'LL SEE. >> SO I RECOMMEND APPROVAL.

>> I'LL SECOND. >> SECOND. COMMISSIONER ROSS, YOU'RE

RECOGNIZED, SIR. >> SECTION 25 WHERE IT TALKS ABOUT THE CITY MANAGER MUST.

WHAT THIS DOES IS ELIMINATE ANYBODY FROM THE PRIVATE SECTOR. I TALKED WITH SOME MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITY THAT SHOULDN'T FEEL IT WOULD BE PART OF THE PRIVATE SECTOR.

I UNDERSTAND THE INTEN OF THIS IS TO GET SOMEBODY WITH EXPERIENCE BUT I THINK IT LIMITS THE POOL OF APPLICANTS. I DON'T THINK IT'S APPROPRIATE TO LIMIT THE POOL.

YOU WANT THE POOL AS BROAD AS YOU CAN AS OPPOSED TO NARROWING. I ALREADY TALKED ABOUT 9.A.

THE OTHER QUESTION I HAD WAS ON SECTION 11 THAT TALKS ABOUT REMOVING A CITY COMMISSIONER FOR MISSING THREE MEETINGS. BASICALLY THEY WOULD GO TO A -- THANK YOU FOR PROVIDING ME --

>> RULES OF PROCEDURE. >> -- THE RULES OF PROCEDURE. THAT ANSWERED MY QUESTION.

WHAT THIS SAYS, IF SOMEBODY IS ELECTED. SAY A WOMAN WHO RUNS UNOPPOSED AND THE COMMUNITY LOVES HER. FIRST MONTH, DAY BEFORE FIRST THIRD MEETING HER MOTHER DIES AND THEN A MONTH LATER HER FATHER DIES. THREE MONTHS LATER SHE HAS APPENDICITIS ON THE DAY OF A MEETING. I UNDERSTAND THEY GET SUSPENDED AND THEY GO TO A HEARING. I GUESS THEY COULD BE ADJUDICATED.

I DON'T THINK MISSING THREE MEETINGS SHOULD DISQUALIFY SOMETHING IF IT'S EXTENUATING

CIRCUMSTANCES. >> I HAVE A MOTION FOR SECOND READING.

>> DO YOU WANT HER TO COME UP AND SPEAK ON BEHALF OF THE CHARTER REVIEW COMMITTEE?

>> THERE'S A SECOND WORK SHOP. WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A WORK SHOP NEXT WEEK.

>> YOU'RE WELCOME IF YOU WANT TO BUT YOU DON'T HAVE TO. >> YOU'RE DIEING TO SPEAK.

>> I AM. ARLENE PHILKOF, FERNANDINA BEACH.

SORRY I CAN TALK WITH THIS. AS TAMMY SUGGESTED, BECAUSE OF THE PANDEMIC, ETC, ETC, THE LAST TWO MEETINGS WE KNEW THIS. YOU HAD THE BENEFIT TO READ THROUGH THIS MORE SO THAN WE HAVE AFTER WE FINISHED PUTTING IT TOGETHER. I APPRECIATE YOUR PATIENCE WITH IT, BUT IN GENERAL, THERE WERE THINGS WE ITEMIZED FOR THE CHARTER OFFICERS ARE PRIMARILY THERE TO ENSURE WE HAVE PROFESSIONAL CHARTER OFFICERS. EITHER WHEN WE HIRE THEM OR THAT THEY BECOME PROFESSIONAL AS WE HAVE DONE WITH SOME IN THE PAST AS A CITY.

IF THERE IS A REQUIREMENT THAT YOU DISAGREE WITH, LIKE 250 PEOPLE, I DON'T THINK -- I'M SPEAKING FOR THEM AND I SHOULDN'T BE, BUT I DON'T THINK THE COMMITTEE WOULD HAVE AN ISSUE WITH THAT. WE USE A LOT OF LANGUAGE THAT WE FOUND FROM CHARTERS IN OTHER CITIES. THE PRIMARY INTENT WAS TO ENSURE WE HAD PROFESSIONALS WHO KNEW WHAT THEY WERE DOING IN THESE POSITIONS. SOME OF US HAVE LIVED THROUGH

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OTHER THAN THAT. SO THAT'S WHAT WE'RE LOOKING TO DO.

HOPEFULLY, YOU WON'T FORGET THE COMMENTS WHEN WE GET TOGETHER FOR OUR WORK SHOP.

THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU. >> MOTION, SECOND ON THE FIRST READING. SEEING NO LIGHTS CAN YOU CALL THE CLERK.

>> KREGER. >> YES. >> COMMISSIONER LEDNOVICH.

>> YES. >> COMMISSIONER CHAPMAN. >> YES.

>> COMMISSIONER ROSS. >> YES. >> MAYOR MILLER?

[Item 10.1]

>> YES. >> 10.1. THIS IS FOR BUILDING.

>> ORDINANCE 2020-16 ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF FERNANDINA BEACH FLORIDA AMENDING THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE TO MODIFY STANDARDS FOR HIGH ENCROACHMENTS BY AMENDING 1.07.00 ADDING OR AMENDING CERTAIN DEFINITIONS, AMENDING 4.203 STANDARDS FOR BUILDING AND BUILDING PLACEMENT AND 10.02.01 SUBD VARIANCES PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY AND PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE.

THIS IS THE, IF YOU REMEMBER, IT IS SECOND READING, MR. MAYOR. PLEASE OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING.

>> OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING. THE. >> COMMISSIONER ROSS, YOU'RE RECOGNIZED.

>> BEEN A LONG TIME COMING. I MOVE TO APPROVE. >> SECOND.

>> I HAVE A MOTION AND SECOND. SEEING NO FURTHER LIGHT. >> NO ELEVATOR SHAFTS ON THE BEACH AND NO VARIANCES TO GET ELEVATOR SHAFTS ON THE BEACH ABOVE YOUR TOP.

>> CORRECT. >> COMMISSIONER ROSS. >> YES.

>> COMMISSIONER LEDNOVICH. >> YES. >> COMMISSIONER CHAPMAN.

[Item 10.2]

>> YES. >> MAYOR MILLER? >> YES.

>> LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE AMENDMENT PLANNING ADVISORY BOARD MEMBERSHIP.

>> ORDINANCE 2020-17 ORDINANCE OF THE CITY COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF FERNANDINA BEACH, FLORIDA, AMENDING LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE TO MODIFY SECTION 9.02.02 MEMBERSHIP AND TERMS OF OFFICE FOR THE PLANNING ADVISORY BOARD PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY AND PROVIDING FOR

AN EFFECTIVE DATE. PLEASE OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING. >> OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING.

CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. COMMISSIONER ROSS, YOU'RE RECOGNIZED, SIR.

>> I HAVE A QUESTION FOR THE ATTORNEY. I SHOULD HAVE ASKED YOU THIS THIS MORNING. ON SECTION F, IT SAYS WHEN AN ALTERNATIVE MEMBER.

THERE ARE NO MORE ALTERNATE MEMBERS. >> IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN STRICKEN.

>> ALL SECTION D-F SHOULD BE STRI STRICKEN?

>> WHICH ONE DID YOU SAY, D? >> F, AS IN FRANK. >> FOXTROT.

>> FOXTROT, SORRY. >> D. YES.

>> SO WHAT HAPPENS WHEN -- >> WHEN THERE'S A VACANCY? >> YES.

>> YOU ALL HAVE TO FILL IT JUST LIKE WE DO NOW. >> DO THEY JUST FILL THAT TERM? DOES THAT NEED TO BE SPECIFIED TAT THEY FILL OUT THE TERM? OR START ANEW?

>> WHEN THERE'S A VACANCY, A NEW MEMBER WILL BE APPOINTED FOR THE REMAINDER OF THAT TERM, YES.

>> I MOVE TO APPROVE THAT WITH THAT CORRECTION. >> SECOND.

>> MAYBE AN EASY SOLUTION IS TO DELETE THE WORD ALTERNATE. A MEMBER, WHEN THERE'S A VACANCY, IT'S FILLED. IT'S EASILY SOLVED BY JUST DELETING THE TERM ALTERNATE.

>> YES, YOU'RE RIGHT. >> IS THAT YOUR MOTION? >> YES.

>> IS THAT YOUR SECOND, SIR? >> YES. BUT I HAVE A COMMENT.

>> JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE WE HAD THE MOTION SECONDED. YOU'RE RECOGNIZED.

>> I JUST WANT TO ANNOUNCE THAT THERE IS A VACANCY AND SOLICIT EVERYBODY AN ANYBODY TO APPLY.

>> THERE ARE TWO. >> THERE'S ONE NAME COMING TO YOU AT YOUR JULY MEETING TO FILL ONE OF THE VACANCIES. THAT PERSON WAS THE ONLY MEMBERSHIP.

BARBARA GAMER. THE PLANNING BOARD WENT AHEAD AND SENT THE APPLICATION UP TO YOU, HAVING NO OTHERS TO REVIEW. NOW THERE'S A SECOND VACANCY WITH MR. CLARK'S RESIGNATION.

I THOUGHT I READ TODAY, TWO NAMES, TWO NAMES TO FILL THAT SPOT.

THAT'S TERRIFIC. WE WILL HAVE SOME MEMBERS' SPOTS FILLED.

>> I HAVE A MOTION AND SECOND. MADAM CLERK PLEASE CALL THE VOTE.

>> COMMISSIONER ROSS. >> YES. >> VICE COMMISSIONER KREGER.

[Item 10.3]

>> YES. >> COMMISSIONER LEDNOVICH. >> YES.

>> COMMISSIONER ROSS. >> YES. >> MAYOR MILLER?

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>> YES. >> SECTION 8.01.01.01 SUBF TO ADD A REQUIREMENT FOR ROOF TOP MECHANICAL SCREENING IN THE DOWNTOWN HISTORIC DISTRICT CRA AND OLD TOWN.

TO DELETE SECTION 8.01.01.02 SUBH, RELATING TO TOWERS IN OLD TOWN, TO ALLOW KITCHENETTES AND ACCESSORY DWELLING UNITS WITHIN OLD TOWN. DELETE SUBE10 AS IT RELATES TO DENSITY BONUS INSEPBIVE WHICH WAS ELIMINATED IN 2018. TO DELETE 8.01.03 SUBE AS IT RELATES TO THE NOW SUNSET SIDE STREET BUSINESS SIGNAGE PROGRAM TO CREATE A NEW SECTION SUBE, RESERVED FOR DOWNTOWN WAY FINDING SIGNAGE. MODIFY 8.03.03C TO SET AFTER THE FACT FEES BASED ON THE ANNUALLY ADOPTED MASTER FEE SCHEDULE TO CREATE 8.03.03.01 SUBF TO CREATE A DEMOLITION DELAY PERIOD, TO MODIFY SECTION 8.03.03.04B, TO MODIFY SECTION 8.03.03.A1 TO ESTABLISH AN OFFICIAL INVENTORY OF RESOURCES LIST THAT DESIGNATES CONTRIBUTING STRUCTURE STATUS, TO MODIFY SECTION 5.01.10 TO ADD STANDARDS FOR FENCING DESIGN/INSTALLATION

PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY AND PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE. >> OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING.

CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. >> RECOMMEND APPROVAL. >> I'LL SECOND.

>> MOTION TO SECOND. MADAM CLERK, PLEASE CALL THE VOTE.

>> KREGER. >> YES. >> COMMISSIONER LEDNOVICH.

>> YES. >> COMMISSIONER CHAPMAN. >> YES.

>> COMMISSIONER ROSS? >> YES. >> MAYOR MILLER?

>> YES. >> CAN I JUST SAY SOMETHING. WE TALKED THIS MORNING ABOUT

SATELLITE DISHES. >> THAT'S A DIFFERENT THING. >> WHEN WE DO TALK ABOUT SATELLITE DISH, THE TELEVISION, ANOTHER SUBDIVISION WHERE THE BAR WOULD BE SEPARATED, WHERE THEIR TELEVISIONS WOULD BE AND THE OWNERS SAID THEY WOULD BE AWAY FROM VIEW.

WE KNOW TOWERS, WE CAN SEE THEIR TV'S. YOU'RE GOING TO BE APPROACHED BY IT. PERHAPS WE'LL WORK ON THAT THROUGH THE PLANNING BOARD AND CITY COMMISSION. THE NEXT JUST SATELLITE DISHES OR OTHER THINGS THAT MAY NEED TO BE SCREENED. I DID A LITTLE BIT OF RESEARCH ON THAT AND THERE IS CASE LAW THAT TALKS ABOUT HOW YOU WRITE THE ORDINANCE. SO IF WE DO THAT BECAUSE SATELLITE IS A BROADCAST. THERE'S FIRST AMENDMENT AND EQUAL PROTECTION ISSUES, THAT

WE'RE READY FOR IT WHENEVER YOU ARE READY. >> COMMISSIONER ROSS?

>> BEFORE THE CHANGE TO ADD THAT THE HDC CAN EVALUATE AS PART OF THEIR EVALUATION OF THE PROJECTS COMING INTO THE HDC SATELLITE DISHES SOLAR PANELS, HVAC, HEATING AND AIR CONDITIONING.

I FORGET WHAT THE OTHER ONE WAS. THE SCREENING, THAT'S WHAT THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT, WHERE

THEY CAN BE LOCATED. IT'S A PRETTY SIMPLE CHANGE. >> COMMISSIONER LEDNOVICH?

>> ACTUALLY, I DON'T THINK IT'S BEFORE THE PAB. I WAS AT THE LAST PAB MEETING.

IT SPOKE DIRECTLY ABOUT THIS. THERE'S SOME URGENCY AROUND THIS, PRIMARILY BECAUSE OF THE BOAT HOUSE. I WAS AT THE HISTORIC DISTRICT MEETING WHERE THIS WAS DISCUSSED. AND THEY SAID THEY WOULD PLACE THEM OUT OF SIGHT BUT THERE'S NO CITY REGULATION WHICH SAYS THEY CAN PUT THEM RIGHT ON THAT OUTSIDE WALL.

>> RIGHT. THE PROBLEM IS TWO FOLD. ONE IS AESTHETIC FOR THE HISTORIC DISTRICT. THE SECOND IS SAFETY. TRAFFIC GOING BY DISTRACTED BY A TV OR PEDESTRIAN. THAT'S AN ACCIDENT WAITING TO HAPPEN.

SO WE NEED SOME TYPE OF REGULATION IN THE HISTORIC DISTRICT SAYING, NO, NO, NO, THOSE TV'S MUST BE OUT OF SIGHT. AND SO WHAT I'M ASKING FOR IS A PROCESS, A CONSENSUS OF PUTTING IT TO THE PAB OR THE APPROPRIATE BOARD SO THAT WE CAN TAKE ACTION ON THIS.

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>> I'M NOT HEARING ANY OBJECTION SO I'LL JUST SAY I KNOW MRS. GIBSON IS WATCHING, SO I'M SURE SHE'S NOTED THAT AND THAT WE MOVE FORWARD WITH IT. ONE THING I'M JUST GOING TO SAY THIS BECAUSE I LIVE IT WITH THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT. IT'S FINE IF WE SPOT THINGS THAT WE SEE, GO IN AND PUT A REGULATION IN PLACE. WE KNOW HOW LONG IT TAKES TO DO THAT BUT WE HAVE TO BE CAREFUL EVERY TIME THOSE COME UP TO DO THAT BECAUSE YOU'RE TAKING STOCK AWAY FROM THINGS, INCLUDING ME, AWAY FROM OTHER THINGS THAT YOU WANT DONE.

JUST KEEP IN MIND WHEN THEY WORK ON SOMETHING LIKE THAT, THAT THEY'RE NOT WORKING ON SOMETHING

ELSE. >> COMMISSIONER ROSS, YOU'RE UP. >> THIS IS SUCH A SIMPLE LITTLE FIX. IT'S ONE LINE IN THE CODE. I HEAR WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.

WE DON'T NEED A HUGE STAFF REPORT. >> I UNDERSTAND.

>> ONE SIMPLE FIX TO GIVE THE ACC TO REVIEW THE AUTHORITY. DONE.

WE CAN BE ON OUR TIME ON THIS ONE. >> I UNDERSTAND THAT.

I DO. I WANT YOU ALL TO KNOW ALSO THAT KATIE IN MY OFFICE, SHE HAS MASTER'S DEGREE IN PUBLIC ADMINISTRATION. SHE'S CERTAINLY CAPABLE.

I HAVE OFFERED THE LEGAL DEPARTMENT ASSISTANCE TO THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT, ESPECIALLY DRAFTING ORDINANCES, EVEN STAFF REPORTS. I THINK KATIE NEWTON WILL BE HELPFUL AND CONTINUE TO DO THAT. WE CAN JUST DO A SMALL STAFF REPORT.

IT'S REALLY NOT THAT COMPLICATED. PERHAPS WE'LL GET THAT MOVING.

>> VICE MAYOR KREGER. >> IF IT'S A PROBLEM IN THE HISTORIC DISTRICT, WHY DON'T WE

FIX IT FOR THE WHOLE CITY? >> I'M NOT SAYING THAT'S NOT POSSIBLE.

>> IF IT'S A SAFETY HAZARD HERE, IT'S A SAFETY HAZARD ELSEWHERE. >> SURE.

>> IF WE'RE GONNA FIX IT, FIX IT EVERYWHERE. >> IF IT'S YOUR DESIRE JUST TO ADRESS THE HISTORIC DISTRICT, WE WOULD NOT ADDRESS THE SAFETY ISSUE.

YOU CAN'T HAVE MOVING SIGNS. SO IT'S ALL CONTENT NEUTRAL. IT'S AN EASY FIX, I THINK.

>> WHAT WE'RE SAYING, YOU CAN SEE A TV SET FROM THE ROAD WAY. >> CORRECT.

>> BASICALLY ALL IT SAID HDC HAS THE AUTHORITY TO DO THEIR WORK. THEY CAN INCREASE THEIR AUTHORITY OF LOOKING AT THINGS. THEY MAY SAY IT'S FINE TO SEE IT FROM THE ROAD.

IT BASICALLY GIVES THEM THE AUTHORITY. GIVE THEM THE AUTHORITY TO LOOK AT THAT ISSUE AND GIVE THEM THE AUTHORITY TO LOOK AT IT. THAT'S ALL IT DOES.

>> DISCRETION IS UP TO THEM. >> THIS COULD BE THE SAME THING WHEN WE HAD THE NOISE ORDINANCE.

WE HAVE ONE BUSINESS THAT COMPLAINS AND THEY GO WHAT ABOUT ANOTHER BUSINESS AND YOU CAN SEE THEIR TV FROM THE WINDOW. I DON'T WANT TO GET INTO THAT SITUATION.

>> ONE BUSINESS IS 50% OCCUPANCY AND OTHERS ARE FULL. WE ARE GONNA DO OUR BEST.

WE DON'T HAVE OTHER BUSINESSES LIKE THIS GOING IN, BUT IT'S STILL AN ISSUE.

I THINK WE'RE GOING TO KEEP IT DIRECTED AND FOCUSED ON THE HISTORIC DISTRICT.

>> WOULD IT BE GRANDFATHERED IN? >> NOT NECESSARILY. DON'T ANSWER MY LEGAL QUESTIONS.

THAT'S NOT TRUE. YOU CAN RETRO ACTIVELY APPLY ORDINANCES, YES.

>> ALL YOU'RE SAYING IS THIS IS GIVING HDC THE AUTHORITY. ONCE THEY'RE DONE, THEY'RE DONE.

>> JUST LIKE WE HAVE, FOR EXAMPLE, YOU MAY NOT KNOW THIS. WE HAVE DIFFERENT TYPES OF THINGS THAT ARE SET OUT EXPRESSLY IN THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE THAT ARE FOR REVIEW AND APPROVAL BY THE HISTORIC DISTRICT COUNCIL. OTHER APPROVAL BY STAFF.

WHEN STAFF DOESN'T FEEL COMFORTABLE ON THEIR OWN SOMETIMES THEY SEND THINGS TO THE HISTORIC EXAMPLE. COMMISSIONER ROSS WANTED TO CHANGE THAT.

THE FIVE HDC MEMBERS WILL DECIDE WHETHER IT NEEDS. THE THING IS JUST TO FOCUS ON AND I'LL HAVE KELLY PROVIDE THIS MORE IN DEPTH AND MAYBE A SHORT MEMO.

THERE ARE DOWNSIDES TO DO, THAT, TOO, ESPECIALLY WITH THIS TYPE OF THING.

WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HISTORIC DISTRICT COUNCIL WORKING WITH GUIDELINES AND SECRETARY OF THE INTERIOR STANDARDS THAT MAY NOT ADDRESS TELEVISIONS AND MOVING NEW KIND OF SIGNS LIKE THAT.

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WE'LL GET TO IT SOME WAY. BUT, YEAH, YOU CAN RETRO ACTIVELY APPLY THAT.

>> IF THEY DON'T LIKE THE DECISION CAN THEY BE APPEALED? >> HDC IS APPEALED TO THE

COMMISSION AND THEN COURT. >> YEAH. OKAY.

I DO HAVE A MOTION TO SECOND I BELIEVE. >> YES.

>> IF WE CAN CALL THE VOTE. >> VICE MAYOR KREGER. >> YES.

>> COMMISSIONER LEDNOVICH. >> YES. >> COMMISSIONER CHAPMAN.

>> YES. >> COMMISSIONER ROSS. >> YES.

[Item 10.4]

>> MAYOR MILLER. >> YES. >> OR NANCE 20-19, ORDINANCE OF THE CITY COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF FERNANDINA BEACH FLORIDA ESTABLISHING AND AMENDING FEES FOR SANITATION FOR FISCAL YEAR 2019, 2020, PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY AND PROVIDING FOR

AN EFFECTIVE DATE. PLEASE OPEN PUBLIC HEARING. >> OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING.

CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. >> RECOMMEND APPROVAL. >> SECOND.

>> MOTION TO SECOND. COMMISSIONER ROSS, YOU'RE RECOGNIZED.

>> OKAY. ALL THIS ORDINANCE DOES IN THE CONTRACT IT SAYS THAT ADVANCE WHO DOES OUR TRASH HAS A RIGHT TO A YEARLY INCREASE, COST OF LIVING RAISE.

ALL THIS ORDINANCE DOES IS SAY THEY GET THEIR COST OF LIVING. WE'RE GOING TO AMEND OUR FEE SCHEDULE WHICH PEOPLE LOOK TO THAT COST OF LIVING RAISE. WE'RE TAKE WHAT THEY'RE ALLOWED TO DO AND HAS THE FEE SCHEDULE SO THERE'S NO CONFUSION IN THE COMMUNITY.

THE BIGGER PROBLEM WITH THIS IS YARD WASTE OR CULTURAL WASTE. IT'S POPULAR TO RESIDENTS.

I SUPPORT DOING IT. LAST WEEK I TOOK A DRIVE AROUND WITH THE MANAGER FROM ADVANCE, THE OPERATIONAL MANAGER AND FIGURED OUT ABOUT AN HOUR AND A HALF.

WE WENT THROUGH THE WHOLE CITY TO SEE WHAT WAS GOING ON. AND IN THE PREVIOUS CONTRACT WHAT IT SAID WAS WAS TO ENCOURAGE BAG AND BUNDLING. WHAT THEY DID BACK THEN THE CLAM SHELL CAME AROUND AND TOOK WHERE THE SOLAR PANEL IS RAISED AT THE AIRPORT.

THEY PUT IT THERE, CHIPPED IT. THREE, FOUR TIMES A YEAR THEY TOOK IT AWAY.

THOSE TRUCKS THAT WERE GOING AROUND ALL WENT TO THE AIRPORT. FIVE, TEN, FIFTY, TWENTY MINUTE RIDE. UNDER THE CURRENT CONTRACT, WHICH WE ALL APPROVED, SAYS MANDATORY BAGGING AND BUNDLING. WHAT HAPPENED IS, THEY CONTINUE TO DO THE CLAM SHELL, BUT THE CITY WAS NO LONGER MULCHING THE STUFF. WHAT HAPPENS NOW WITH THOSE CLAM SHELL TRUCKS. THERE'S NO WAY TO COMPRESS IT. THEY DRIVE TO JACKSONVILLE.

IT'S ABOUT TWO TO THREE HOUR ROUND TRIP. WHERE IT USED TO TAKE 15 MINUTES, 20 MINUTES TO TAKE A TRUCK, IT'S NOW TAKING TWO, THREE HOURS TO TAKE A TRUCK.

THEY HAVE THE SAME AMOUNT OF TRUCKS, SAME AMOUNT OF PEOPLE, BUT CAN'T KEEP UP.

THE SYSTEM WILL NOT WORK THE WAY IT IS. WE EITHER NEED TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO EXPOSE OF THAT STUFF ON THE ISLAND. ONE OF THE THINGS LOOKING AT IT WHETHER WE COULD CHIP IT TAKE IT AND USE IT FOR BIOFUEL ADVANCE AND THE PEOPLE ARE LOOKING AT THAT. PROBABLY NOT GOING TO WORK BECAUSE THEY NEED CLEAN STUFF.

PEOPLE PUT ALL KINDS OF STUFF IN THE FILE. THAT'S A PROBLEM.

OR WE NEED TO GO TO BAGGING AND BUNDLING WHICH I DON'T AGREE WITH.

OR WE CAN TOLERATE DELAYS OR INCREASE THE PRICE. WE NEED TO WORK SOMETHING OUT WITH ADVANCE ON HOW TO DEAL WITH THIS. THE SYSTEM, THE WAY THIS WORKS, THEY'RE ALWAYS GOING TO BE BEHIND. IT IS NOT GOING TO WORK.

IT IS A SYSTEM DESIGNED TO FAIL. IT WILL. BECAUSE THEY CANNOT KEEP UP WITH HAVING TO GO TO JACKSONVILLE AND BACK. SO I WILL VOTE --

>> WE ALREADY MADE A MOTION TO APPROVE. >> YES, SIR.

>> I'M GOING TO VOTE FOR IT. THERE'S TWO PARTS TO THIS. NUMBER ONE TONIGHT WE'RE JUST MAKING A FEE SCHEDULE SO PEOPLE AREN'T GOING TO COMPLAIN WHEN THEY DON'T UNDERSTAND THE DIFFERENCE. NUMBER TWO, WHEN ADVANCED IS BOUGHT BY WASTE MANAGEMENT.

THAT SHOULD HAPPEN BY THE END OF NEXT MONTH. THEN MEET WITH THEM AND COME UP

WITH HOW CAN WE WORK THIS OUT SO WE GET A SYSTEM THAT WORKS. >> COMMISSIONER?

>> I'M NOT GOING TO VOTE FOR THIS ON PRINCIPLE. EVER SINCE WE BEGAN TALKING

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ABOUT THIS AND COMMISSIONER CHAPMAN'S WORDS RING IN MY EAR ABOUT SERVICE.

MY LAST BIKE RIDE AROUND MY NEIGHBORHOOD FOLLOWING ADVANCE DISPOSAL'S EMPTYING OF CONTAINERS, I WENT DOWN A CUL DE SAC AND THE ROLLERS WERE UPSIDE DOWN IN THE MIDDLE OF THE CUL DESAC. I LIVE IN A NEIGHBORHOOD WITH ELDERLY PEOPLE.

I GOT OFF MY BIKE AND HAD TO RIGHT SIDE THE ROLL-S ON. THERE WERE SEVERAL AREAS WHERE, WHEN THEY FLIPPED THOSE ROLLOUTS INTO THE TRUCK, IF THEY DO IT TOO EARLY, A LOT OF THE CRAP ENDS UP ON THE STREET. I WAS TEMPTED TO TAKE PHOTOS TO BRING TO THIS MEETING.

I DIDN'T DO IT. THAT'S PROBLEM NUMBER ONE IS THE LEVEL OF SERVICE.

PROBLEM NUMBER TWO IS IN THE PAST TWO DAYS, I HAVE RECEIVED PHONE CALLS FROM RESIDENTS.

THE UTILITY COMPANY HAS BEEN GOING AROUND NEIGHBORHOODS CLEARING TREE LIMBS FROM UTILITY LINES. AND WHAT THEY'VE DONE, THEY'VE LET THOSE TREE LIMBS IN FRONT OF PEOPLE'S HOUSES. I RECEIVED CALLS, IS THE CITY GONNA PICK UP THESE TREE LIMBS? IS ADVANCED GONNA PICK UP THE TREE LIMBS? WHO DO I CALL? BUT THAT CRAP IS OUT THERE AND IT'S NOT BUNDLED AND IT'S NOT CUT UP.

NOW WE ADD ANOTHER PROBLEM. >> CITY MANAGER IS ON TO SOMETHING.

I ASSUME THAT'S WITHIN OUR RIGHT OF WAY. >> I WILL TALK TO FPU AND FIND OUT WHAT THEIR PLAN IS FOR THAT REMOVAL. IF FPU IS RESPONSIBLE FOR TREE TRIMMING, I'LL REACH OUT TO FPU AND MAKE SURE THAT'S TAKEN CARE OF.

>> I AGREE WITH WHAT CHIP'S SAYING. WHAT WE'RE JUST APPROVING IS A LEGAL ISSUE THAT WAS IN THEIR CONTRACT. WE HAD A LONG DISCUSSION LAST TIME. WHAT WE WERE TRYING TO DO WAS LEVERAGE THAT DISCUSSION.

I THINK WE NEED TO GET A RESOLUTION ONE WAY OR THE OTHER. THEIR SERVICE, QUALITY OF SERVICE SOMETIMES IS VERY QUESTIONABLE. I THINK WE NEED TO LOOK AND SEE HOW WE'RE GOING TO HANDLE THIS. IT'S NOT THEIR PROBLEM, BUT IT COMES ASSOCIATED WITH IT.

>> COMMISSIONER CHAPMAN? >> I WILL NOT SUPPORT THIS. LAST MEETING, COMMISSION TALKED ABOUT DELIVERABLES. WELL, I DON'T SEE ADVANCED DELIVERING.

THEIR LATEST THING NOW ON MY STREET IS I CAN'T PICK UP YOUR PILE OF YARD WASTE BECAUSE I MIGHT HIT THE POWER LINE. THOSE POWER LINES HAVEN'T CHANGED IN YEARS.

AND FOR YEARS, ADVANCED HAS BEEN ABLE TO USE THE CRANE TO PICK UP THOSE PILES.

NOW THE DRIVER SAYS, CAN YOU MOVE YOUR PILE? WHEN HE ASKED ME, NO BIG DEAL.

BUT IF HE'S ASKING MY NEIGHBOR, AN ELDERLY WOMAN, NO. IT IS A BIG DEAL.

IF THEY DON'T TRAIN SOMEBODY TO USE THAT CRANE TO NOT HIT A POWER LINE, THAT'S NOT OUR FAULT. THEY HAVE TO GO TO JACKSONVILLE TO DUMP THE LOADS, IT'S NOT OUR FAULT. I'M TIRED OF, TO BE VERY HONEST, THE CITY MAKING EXCUSES FOR ADVANCED. THEY HAVE NOT DELIVERED. AND IT CAME UP ABOUT BAGGING AND BUNDLING. IF THAT WAS IN THEIR CONTRACT, SHAME ON THEM FOR NOT ENFORCING IT FROM THE VERY BEGINNING. IF THEY HAVE, LOT OF THESE ISSUES WOULDN'T BE WHERE THEY

ARE. SO, NO, I CANNOT SUPPORT THIS. >> COMMISSIONER ROSS?

>> I THINK THESE ARE TWO DIFFERENT ISSUES. IF THEY WANT TO WORK WITH A CONTRACT, THEY HAVE THE ABILITY TO DO THAT AND WE'LL HAVE EVEN BIGGER PROBLEMS. I HEAR WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, PHIL. THERE'S SOME MERIT TO WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.

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I THINK ALL THESE THINGS NEED TO BE WORKED OUT. IF WE DON'T VOTE FOR THIS, WE'RE CREATING ANOTHER PROBLEM. OUR PEOPLE IS GOING TO GET A PHONE CALL.

WHY IS THERE A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN WHAT THEY'RE BILLING ME AND WHAT WE'RE PAYING.

YOU'RE GIVING ME A FUNNY LOOK. >> DID WE HAVE A MOTION? >> WE DO.

>> I'M JUST SAYING -- >> I SECONDED IT. >> WE'RE FINE.

I DON'T WANT TO CREATE MORE WORK FOR OUR PEOPLE. I DO BELIEVE THERE ARE ISSUES WITH ADVANCED. THEY ARE BEING TAKEN OVER. WE NEED TO WORK WITH THEM COLLABORATIVELY SO WE CAN GET GOOD TRASH SERVICE AT A REASONABLE PRICE.

>> COMMISSIONER CHAPMAN. >> WHY IS IT I KEEP PAYING MY BILL AND MY YARD WASTE IS NOT PICKED UP? SO IF YOU WANT TO HAVE ISSUES, AS FAR AS I'M CONCERNED YOU SAID, IF WE DON'T DO THIS, THERE'S GONNA BE PROBLEMS. AS FAR AS I'M CONCERNED, ADVANCED OWES ME FOR EVERY SINGLE WEEK THEY DID NOT PICK UP MY YARD WASTE.

I SHOULD BE ENTITLED TO THAT. JUST LIKE YOU SAY THE CONTRACT SAYS THEY SHOULD BE ENTITLED TO THIS. WELL, THEY'RE NOT DELIVERING. WHY DON'T I GET A REBATE? YOU TALK ABOUT CAUSING PROBLEMS? WHAT IF EVERY RESIDENT WHO DIDN'T GET THEIR YARD WASTE PICKED UP CALLED CITY HALL AND SAID, I DEMAND A REFUND. I'M NOT PAYING MY YARD WASTE BILL FOR THIS MONTH. IT'S NOT A BIG FORTUNE, BUT THINK OF THE PAPERWORK THAT WILL BE INVOLVED. I THINK THIS IS A DISSERVICE. I'M SORRY.

WHY ARE WE PLAYING NICE WITH THEM? WE DON'T PLAY NICE WITH THE PORT. WE DON'T PLAY NICE WITH THE COUNTY.

BUT WE PLAY NICE WITH ADVANCED PROPOSAL. I'M SORRY, I CAN'T UNDERSTAND

THAT. >> THANK YOU. PLEASE CALL THE VOTE.

>> VICE MAYOR KREGER. TKPWHR YES. >> COMMISSIONER ROSS.

>> YES. >> COMMISSIONER CHAPMAN. >> NO.

>> COMMISSIONER LEDNOVICH. >> NO. >> MAYOR MILLER?

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>> YES. >> CITY MANAGER REPORTS. >> HUMAN RESOURCE BOOKS HAVE BEEN COMPLETED. YOU'LL START THE OFFICIAL REVIEW OF CANDIDATES NEXT WEEK.

I HAVE A TELECONFERENCE WITH TPHRA DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION OFFICIALS LATER THIS WEEK REGARDING THE FDOT FUNDING FOR THE RAILROAD CROSSINGS AT ASHE AND CENTER STREET. ADVISORY BOARD, WE TALKED ABOUT THEIR MEETING AT 6 P.M.

ALSO DISCUSSED WAS THE TENTATIVE DATE OF SATURDAY, JULY 11 PUBLIC OUTREACH EFFORT FOR THE WATERFRONT. PENDING QUESTIONS, THAT'S ALL I HAVE.

>> VICE MAYOR KREGER. >> YOU HAD DISCUSSION ON THE CHAMBER OF COMMERCE LIST OF THINGS. WE WERE GONNA COME BACK I THINK IT WAS LAST MEETING ON WHAT WE COULD DO, IF ANYTHING, FOR BUSINESSES. I KNOW WE'VE DONE SOME THINGS.

WE WILL WORK WITH ANY BUSINESS. COULD YOU OUTLINE WHAT WE'VE DONE?

>> THE $5,000. AGAIN, MORE PROBABLY SO FOR THE GENERAL PUBLIC BECAUSE YOU WERE INVOLVED WITH IT. ORIGINAL MOTION TO PROVIDE MONEY FOR THE CHAMBER A MAXIMUM OF $5,000 WAS TO PROVIDE $20,000 MATCHING GRANTS TO SUPPORT GRANTS FOR BUSINESSES THAT NEEDED TO ACQUIRE PPE, PERSONAL PROTECTIVE EQUIPMENT. THE CHAMBER REACHED OUT AND YOU DID APPROVE THAT. RESOLUTION THAT YOU ADOPTED APPROVED THAT $5,000 APPROPRIATION TO THE CHAMBER OF COMMERCE TO SUPPORT THE $20 MATCHING GRANT.

SHORTLY THERE AFTER, THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR REACHED OUT TO ME AND SAID, FIRST OF ALL SHE SAID THANK YOU VERY MUCH. SHE EXPRESSED HER GENUINE THANKS FOR THE EFFORTS OF THE CITY COMMISSION. THEN INDICATED THERE WERE PROBLEMS WITH ACQUIRING THE PERSONAL PROTECTIVE EQUIPMENT AND COULD THAT $5,000 BE REPURPOSED TO USE THAT TO PURCHASE THE EQUIPMENT? AND THEN THAT WOULD BE IN TURN ALLOCATED TO CITY BASED BUSINESSES. YOU ALL AGREED TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THAT CHANGE TO WHAT THE RESOLUTION WAS ORIGINALLY ADOPTED. I KNOW THERE WERE SOME QUESTIONS. WE'VE BEEN WORKING, COMMISSIONER LEDNOVICH ASKED FOR FEED BACK ON

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WHAT IS THE IMPACT OF THE LOCAL BUSINESS TAX RECEIPTS? WE THOUGHT APPROXIMATELY $160,000. THAT'S WHAT'S BUDGETED. WE COLLECTED A LITTLE BIT MORE THIS YEAR. WITH REGARD TO SIGN PERMITS, THEY ASKED ABOUT WAVING THE SIGN PERMIT FEES. THERE'S SOME CONFUSION REGARDING WHETHER THEY'RE TEMPORARY SIGN PERMIT FEES OR PERMANENT SIGN PERMIT FEES. I DON'T NECESSARILY SEE A RELAXATION OF THE SIGN PER PHEU MIT FEES AS AN ISSUE, AS LONG AS THE APPLICATION AND REGULATIONS CONTINUE REGARDING SIGNS. WE DON'T WANT A JUMBLE OF SIGNS ONCE IT'S PERCEIVED THAT WE'RE ELIMINATING THE SIGN REGULATIONS. TRYING TO THINK.

WE'VE CONTINUED OUR SUPPORT FOR MAIN STREET, TO PROVIDE SUPPORT FOR THAT.

I WORKED VERY CLOSELY WITH MAIN STREET TO ANOW FOR EXAMPLE BRETT'S.

BRETT'S RESTAURANT, THE AGREEMENT WE SIGNED WITH BRETT'S RESTAURANT SAID WE CANNOT ONLY HAVE OUTDOOR SEATING CITY PROPERTY WHICH IS ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF BRETT'S RESTAURANT.

THEY CAN ONLY KEEP THE TABLES OUT THERE UNTIL MARCH. THEY ASKED, COULD THEY KEEP THEM OUT THERE LONGER IN RECOGNITION OF THE PANDEMIC? I IMMEDIATELY GRANTED THAT REQUEST. MAIN STREET WE TALKED ABOUT, THEY WANT PICNIC TABLES DOWNTOWN. I THINK THE PICNIC TABLES HAVE BEEN WELL RECEIVED AT NO COST TO THE CITY OR BUSINESSES. I THINK AS SMALL ISSUES COME UP, I THINK WE'RE RESPONDING APPROPRIATELY TO THEM AND I LOOK FORWARD TO CONTINUE TO WORK WITH MAIN STREET AND THE CHAMBER OF

COMMERCE. >> THANK YOU. >> CITY ATTORNEY.

>> I HAVE NO REPORT. >> THANK YOU. >> CITY CLERK.

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>> YES, SIR. JUST A COUPLE OF THINGS. WE HAVE SOME VACANCIES.

APPEALS BOARD HAS TWO ALTERNATE VACANCIES. BOARD OF TRUSTEES HAS ONE VACANCY. AIRPORT ADVISORY COMMISSION HAS BUN VACANCY.

PLANNING ADVISORY BOARD HAS TWO. WE ALWAYS ENCOURAGE INTERESTED APPLICANTS TO STOP BY THE CITY

CLERK'S OFFICE OR VISIT THE CITY'S WEBSITE FOR APPLICATION. >> THANK YOU, MA'AM.

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COMMISSIONER ROSS. >> I ATTENDED THE EVENT THIS SATURDAY WHICH OCCURRED SATURDAY DOWNTOWN. IT WAS PEACEFUL. IT WAS MOVING.

REALLY GLAD THAT I WENT TO THAT. I ALSO APPRECIATE AND WANT TO THANK THE RESTAURANTS AND BARS IN TOWNS HAVING THEIR SERVERS WEAR MASKS. I KNOW THEY'RE TAKING A FINANCIAL HIT BECAUSE OF THEIR DECREASED CAPACITY, BUT IT'S IMPORTANT TO MAKE PEOPLE FEEL SAFE WHEN CASE OF COVID-19 ARE RISING AGAIN. I THINK THE RESTAURANTS ARE

DOING AN EXCELLENT JOB. >> THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER CHAPMAN.

>> I ALSO WAS AT THE MARCH. VERY PEACEFUL. NICE JOB BY OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT. IT WAS ONE GENTLEMAN WHO APPARENTLY DIDN'T REALIZE WHAT WAS GOING ON AND GOT STUCK IN FRONT OF THE COURTHOUSE FOR THE SPEECHES AND AFTER A WHILE GOT A LITTLE HOT UNDER THE COLLAR. BUT OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT DID A GREAT JOB DEESCALATING.

ONE OF THE THINGEST THINGS I WOULD LIKE TO STRESS IS FOR EVERYBODY.

PLEASE, GET OUT AND REGISTER TO VOTE AND VOTE. THAT'S WHERE THINGS REALLY GET CHANGED. IT'S NICE TO TALK. THINK OF ALL THE THINGS WE SET.

IT'S NICE IF PEOPLE WOULD REGISTER TO VOTE AND THEN EXERCISE THAT.

THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU, SIR. COMMISSIONER LEDNOVICH.

>> THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. I WILL ECHO WHAT MY FELLOW COMMISSIONERS SAID ABOUT THE SATURDAY EVENT. IT'S WHEN YOU PARTICIPATE IN AN EVENT LIKE THAT AND YOU'RE WITH THAT GROUP OF PEOPLE THAT YOU REALIZE HOW SPECIAL THIS CITY AND THIS ISLAND IS BECAUSE IT WAS A COMING TOGETHER OF THE COMMUNITY UNITED. I WANT TO COMPLIMENT POLICE AND SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT FOR HANDLING THAT SITUATION. PATIENTS OF THE DOWNTOWN EMERGENCE HAVING CENTER STREET SHUT OFF FOR A PERIOD OF TIME. SO IT WAS VERY VERY REWARDING TO BE PART OF THAT. ONE OF THE NEGATIVES OF FACEBOOK IS THAT WHEN YOU LOG ON IN THE MORNING AND YOU SEE A PICTURE AND THIS MORNING IT WAS PHIL SCANLON'S PHOTO.

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THAT'S WHEN I LEARNED THAT HE HAD PASSED. IT WAS A WONDERFUL PHOTO OF HIM WITH HIS BIKE AND THAT PHIL SMILE. AND I JUST REMINDED ME OF THE MEETINGS I WAS AT WITH PHIL AND JUST REINFORCED EVERYTHING HE HAD DONE FOR THIS COMMUNITY.

AS A HUMAN YOU GO, OH, NO. MY HEART JUST SANK. I HAVE BEEN THINKING ABOUT PHIL ALL DAY LONG. WHEN SOMEONE IMPACTS YOU. AND I DIDN'T KNOW PHIL THAT WELL. I HAD MET WITH HIM THREE OR FOUR TIMES.

EVERY TIME I MET WITH HIM, I ALWAYS CAME AWAY AMAZED AT HIS ENERGY AND HOW MANY PIES HE HAD HIS FINGERS IN. I WAS SO IMPRESSED BY THAT. I THOUGHT, HOLY COW, HOW DO YOU DO ALL THIS STUFF? HE WAS LIKE THE ENERGIZER BUNNY. I WILL MISS PHIL.

I FEEL BADLY FOR OUR COMMUNITY, FOR WHAT WE'VE LOST. MY THOUGHTS AND PRAYERS GO TOUT

HIS FAMILY. THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU, SIR.

WELL SAID. VICE MAYOR. >> I WAS UNABLE TO ATTEND FRIDAY AFTERNOON BUT I DID SEND STATEMENT SUPPORTING WHAT THEY'RE DOING.

BASICALLY MY STATEMENT IS THAT WE, THE CITY, DO SUPPORT AND AGGRESSIVELY WILL CONTINUE TO SUPPORT EQUAL RIGHTS FOR ALL AND EVERYBODY. WE ARE DOING, IN MY OPINION, A GREAT JOB ALL ALONG. I WAS ABLE TO ATTEND EARLIER SATURDAY MORNING A FOOD GIVE AWAY AT MLK, COMBINATION SPORTSMAN CLUB ALONG WITH BARNABAS WHERE A FULL TRAILER TRUCK WAS GIVEN AWAY TO THE NEEDY. NOW THERE WAS ANOTHER PROGRAM WORKING WITH THE DIFFERENT CHURCHES INVOLVED WILL BE GIVING FOOD DIRECTLY TO THEM TO DISTRIBUTE RATHER THAN HAVE PEOPLE HAVING TO DRIVE, THE CHURCHES CAN DISTRIBUTE.

ONLY OTHER THING THAT I HAVE, I WANT TO REMIND ALL OUR CITIZENS WHO HAVEN'T DONE IT.

COMPLETE THE CENSUS. THE CENSUS IS IMPORTANT. SIGNIFICANT DOLLARS THAT WE WILL LOSE IF WE DON'T DO IT. OUR LATEST NUMBERS WERE REALLY LOW, WHICH IS A TRIBUTE TO THE PANDEMIC. I THINK WE WERE LESS THAN 50%. THAT'S TERRIBLE.

LAST CENSUS, 2010, WE WERE 70% WHICH IS A LITTLE ABOVE AVERAGE. YOU CAN GO ONLINE.

IT'S EASY TO DO. GO ONLINE. DO IT.

>> THANK YOU, SIR. I ALSO WANT TO ECHO THOUGHTS TODAY ABOUT MR. SCANLON.

HE WAS ONE OF THE VERY FIRST PEOPLE I MET WHEN I STARTED THIS.

HE HOSTED A MEETING AT HIS HOUSE ABOUT BURYING POWER LINES. HE HAD A BEAUTIFUL HOME.

WE TALKED QUITE A BIT ABOUT WHAT MOTIVATED HIM TO DO THE BIKE TRAIL.

LIKE I SAID BEFORE THE MEETINGS WE HAD AT ST. MARY'S, HE WAS FANTASTIC.

I'M GONNA MISS HIS LAUGH. HE HAD A GREAT NEW ENGLAND LAUGH.

THAT WAS TOUGH TO WAKE UP TO AS WELL. ALSO WE TALKED ABOUT TERRY TODD PASSED AWAY. HE PROBABLY HAD A HAND IN COMING UP WITH A RECIPE OF A DISH YOU HAD OR HE WAS INFLUENCED TRAINEDED OR MENTORED SOMEONE WHO HAD THEIR HAND IN MAKING YOUR FOOD. THIS FAMILY USED TO HAVE THE FINEST RESTAURANT.

KAREN TOLD ME STORIES ABOUT WHEN HE WOULD GET OFF THE BUS. HE'S A CLOSE FRIEND OF MINE.

HE WOULD GET OFF THE SCHOOL BUS AND RUN INTO THE RESTAURANT. THEY WOULD SET UP TWO MILK CRATES AND HE WOULD DO DISHES FOR THE RESTAURANT. HE LOVED TO BE IN THE BACK OF THE HOUSE. THERE'S A WHOLE DIFFERENT BREED IN THE FRONT OF THE HOUSE AND BACK. TERRY WAS ALWAYS IN THE BACK OF THE HOUSE.

UNFORTUNATELY, HIS MOST CURRENT LOCATION, IF YOU HAVE EATEN AT BRAD'S HE WAS THERE QUITE A WHILE. OBVIOUSLY, SLIDERS. JUST BEEN EVERYWHERE.

IT SAYS A LOT ABOUT HIM. THEY DID A GREAT JOB GETTING SOME OF THE BEST CHEFS AND PUTTING THEM IN A BEAUTIFUL KITCHEN AND LETTING THEM BE CREATIVE.

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THAT'S THE THIRD LOSS THIS RESTAURANT HAD. WE TALKED ABOUT COURTNEY.

NOW KERRY. KEEP IN MIND WHEN YOU GO IN THERE.

KERRY LEFT BEHIND A COUPLE CHILDREN, A LOVING GIRLFRIEND/FIANCEE.

I SAW HIM THE DAY BEFORE. HE WAS A FREQUENT FLYER. HIS SHOT OF CHOICE WAS A SHOT OF RUMPILMINTZ AND GLASS OF WATER. HE CAME BY BEFORE THE DAY HE PASSED.

WE PLAYED CATCHUP. HOW'S THE FAMILY. I'M SO GRATEFUL I HAD THE GIFT TO HAVE THAT ONE LAST CONVERSATION. WITH THAT, WE ARE

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.