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ORDER. >> THE MEETING IS CALLED TO ORDER. WELCOME TO THE NOVEMBERTH MEETING. THE SPECIAL WELCOME TO TWO NEW MEMBERS. WE'VE ACQUIRED.
BILL NORRIS AND SAMUEL ROBERTS. WELCOME, GENTLEMEN.
MISS BROWN, WOULD YOU CALL THE ROLL, PLEASE.
>> MR. ROBERTS AND NORRIS. >> PLEDGE OF THE FLAG.
[4. APPROVAL OF MINUTES]
>> I WILL SECOND THAT. >> YOU GENTLEMEN HAVE THE MINUTES FROM THE LAST MEETING, DO YOU -- ALL IN FAVOR?
>> AYE. >> WE HAVE ELECTION OF THE VICE
[5. ELECTION OF VICE CHAIR PERSON]
CHAIR. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WANT TO WAIT OR HAVE THE OTHERS COME OR WHETHER THAT'S SOMETHING YOUWANT TO DO RIGHT NOW. >> MISS PUGH WOULD TAKE ON THAT
>> THANK YOU MISS PUGH. ARE YOU MAKING A MOTION
>> I MOVE THAT JEAN PUGH BE DESIGNATED AS THE VICE CHAIR.
>> I WILL SECOND IT. >> ALL IN FAVOR?
AREN'T YOU GOING TOO FAST TO SLOW ME DOWN.
>> NO, YOU'RE GOOD. >> I WOULD LIKE TO TALK A MINUTE ABOUT THE BY LAWS AND THE ELECTIONS FOR THE MEMBERS ON THE BOARD. I WOULD LIKE TO PUT YOU ALL ON NOTICE THAT IT'S SOMEWHAT UNCOMFORTABLE TO ME TO BE THE CHAIRPERSON BECAUSE OF EXTENUATING, WHATEVER.
I'M HAPPY TO PUT YOU ALL ON NOTICE THAT YOU CAN HAVE SOMEONE ELSE AS A CHAIRPERSON IN JANUARY.
>> OKAY. >> WE HAVE A PRESENTATION FOR
HEROES GROVE. >> DO YOU WANT TO WAIT UNTIL
MIKE AND ALEXANDER ARE HERE? >> OKAY.
[7.1 Date for subcommittee new member's packet meeting]
IN THAT CASE WITH WE GO ON TO 7.1?>> SET THE DATE. MISS PUGH GRACIOUSLY GAVE ME A NEW MEMBERS PACKET FOR THE COMMITTEE.
I THINK WOULD BE BENEFICIAL. AT IS TAME TIME I WOULD LIKE TO ADD THAT THE BYLAWS TO THAT BECAUSE WE'RE GOING TO HAVE MAKE A CHANGE. THE BYLAWS DUE TO CHANGE CHANGING THE STATUS OF OUR COMMITTEE AND ALSO WE HAVE A CHANGE IN THE MEMBERSHIP LINKS. I THINK IT'S THREE YEARS YOU.
>> I DON'T EVEN KNOW. >> OKAY.
SO WE NEED TO GET THAT ACCOMPLISHED WITH THE SAME TIME.
DO YOU HAVE A DATE IN MIND? >> I WILL NOT BE BACK IN TOWN UNTIL THE 20TH OF NOVEMBER. YOU HAVE TO LEAVE TOMORROW.
ANYTIME AFTER THAT -- >> AFTER THE 20TH OF NOVEMBER.
IS THE 20TH A SATURDAY? >> IT'S A FRIDAY.
>> IT'S A FRIDAY. I WILL BE BACK -- IT WILL BE FOLLOWING WEEK. ANYTIME.
>> THE FOLLOWING WEEK. >> WE NEED TO SET A DATE IN CASE
OTHER MEMBERS WANT TO ATTEND. >> WOULD IT BE UPSTAIRS IN THAT
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ROOM? IN THAT SMALL ROOM?>> IS THAT AVAILABLE SCOTT? >> WE HAVE TO LOOK AT THE CALENDAR. WHAT'S THE DATE THAT YOU --
>> PROBABLY THE MONDAY AFTER THAT FRIDAY THAT MEMBER PUGH.
WHAT DOES THAT LOOK LIKE, SCOTT? >> HANG ON JUST ONE SECOND.
I'M WRITING THAT DOWN. >> ALSO I WOULD LIKE ANY MEMBERS PARTICULARLY THE NEW MEMBERS HAVE SUGGESTED THAT IF YOU CAN'T COME TO MEETING, SO THAT -- YOU ARE NOT ALLOWED TO COMMUNICATE
TO EACH OTHER. >> IT ALL HAS TO HAPPEN WITHIN THIS MEETING. THE 23RD WORKS GREAT FOR ME.
>> I WANTED TO KNOW IF SOMEONE CAN'T MAKE IT.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT TIME IT WILL BE.
>> FEEL FREE TO SUBMIT TO ME YOUR INPUT ON THAT.
>> OKAY. >> IS THERE A PARTICULAR TIME
THAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT? >> I HAVE THE WHOLE DAY.
COVID MAKES IT EASY. >> I WILL CHECK THE CALENDAR AND CONFIRM AND THEN I WILL REACH OUT TO YOU TO LET YOU KNOW TIME.
ONCE IT'S ALL SET UP, WE WILL E-MAIL THE BOARD AND POST THAT
IT'S A PUBLIC MEETINGS. >> RIGHT.
>> THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WITH COULD DO THIS WEEK.
>> OKAY. >> I WILL JUST HOLD THAT.
>> DID WE DECIDE A TIME? >> IF YOU GUYS CAN TELL ME THE ESPECIALLY YOU TWO, IF YOU CAN TELL US A TIME, I CAN GO FROM THERE. UNLESS THE OTHER MEMBERS WANT TO
JOIN AS WELL. >> ARE YOU GENTLEMEN MORE -- I DON'T KNOW IF YOU ARE WORKING OR WHAT'S HAPPENING.
>> THAT AFTERNOON WOULD BE GREAT.
>> HOW ABOUT 2:00? >> PERFECT.
>> 2:00 P.M. >> IF IT'S BOOKED THEN 3:00, 3:30. WHATEVER.
>> IT'S FLEXIBLE. >> ABSOLUTELY.
>> IN THAT CASE, I WOULD LIKE TO WAIT ON THE FINANCES.
AND THE IMPACT FEES, I ASK ABOUT THE UPDATE ON THE WATERFRONT
[8.3 Update on Waterfront Park]
PARK. I'M NOT LOOKING FOR A BIG DISCUSSION ON IT. I WAS SIMPLY PUT THAT ON THERE TO SAY IS THERE ANYTHING WE'RE DOING WITH IT OR NOW MOVED TO THE COMMISSION I JUST WANTED TO KNOW WHO -- I KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON. I READ ALL THE NEWS ABOUT THE SURVEY AND SO FORTH. I PUT THIS ON BEFORE I READ THAT. MAYBE THE COMMISSION CAN ANSWER.I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S COMING BACK.
IF IT'S NOT. AND IF YOU WILL JUST MOVE FORWARD. IT WAS JUST SO I KNEW WHETHER TO KIND OF KEEP IT ON MY PLATE OUR LATE.
WE DO HAVE TWO COMMISSIONERS HERE.
AND IF YOU GUYS WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK THAT?
>> I'M THE LIAISON. >> THAT WOULD BE GREAT.
>> I THINK WE'RE FAR ENOUGH AWAY.
>> MIKE LEADVONICH. AS YOU SAW IN THE MEDIA REPORTS WE GOT THE FEEDBACK FROM MARQUEE AND VALADMYR.
THEY WERE 128 I BELIEVE, COMMENTS.
AND WE'RE -- WHERE IT STANDS NOW IS THAT EACH COMMISSIONER IS TO FORWARD THEIR COMMENTS TO THE CITY MANAGER IN REGARDS TO THE DESIGN. WHAT WE LIKE.
WHAT WE WOULD LIKE TO SEE CHANGED.
WHAT WE SUPPORT. WHAT WE DON'T SUPPORT.
AS WELL AS MARQUEE AND VLADYMR TAKING THE FEEDBACK.
WHAT THE FEEDBACK TOLD THEM. WHAT IT WAS LIKE.
S WAS IT LIKED AND REDOING THE DESIGN.
COMING BACK IN DECEMBER WITH A RECONFIGURED DESIGN.
PART OF THE FEEDBACK WAS THAT TWO TIERED OBSERVATION THAT DIDN'T GO OVER WELL BECAUSE IT BLOCKED VIEWS.
THE LITTLE SHRIMP MONUMENT DID NOT RECEIVE GREAT FEEDBACK.
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PEOPLE LIKE THE BAND SHELL, THE QUESTION BEFORE US WILL BE WHAT DOES THAT BAND SHELL ENTAIL. IS IT A LITTLE SHELL FAN TYPE DESIGN. I -- IS IT SOMETHING BIGGER? DOES IT HAVE BATHROOMS OR DRESSING ROOMS? THAT'S THE KIND OF -- GETTING DOWN INTO THE WEEDS THAT NEEDS TO BE DONE. THE MEMORIAL THE VETERAN'S MEMORIAL, THAT DID NOT GO OVER WELL.A, MOVING IT AND B, HAVING IT ELEVATED.
THAT WAS SOMETHING ELSE THAT WAS HIGHLY SUPPORTED.
THAT'S WHERE WE ARE. AND, OF COURSE.
THE DOMINANT FACTOR FROM MY PERSPECTIVE AND VICE MAYOR KEGLER WAS COST. ONE THING TO DO A SURVEY AND SAY WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT THIS DESIGN BUT WHEN YOU DON'T HAVE PRICE TAGS YOU KNOW IT'S LIKE GOING INTO MODEL HOME AND IT'S ALL TRICKED OUT AND THEN THEY START GOING WELL THE GRANITE IS YOU KNOW 3,000 UPGRADE, ET CETERA, ET CETERA.
WE DON'T KNOW WHAT ANY OF THE COST ARE.
THAT'S THE EVIDENCE. IF YOU HAVE ANY COMMENTS WE SHOULD ADDRESS AS AN INDIVIDUAL CITIZENS TO THE COMMISSIONER.
I WOULD SEND THEM TO CITY MANAGER.
I WOULD FORWARD THEM TO CITY MANAGER.
THIS MY FEEDBACK ON THE DESIGN. OKAY.
[8.4 Annual Report of PRAC to City Commission]
>> THANK YOU. MAY 4 THE ANNUAL REPORT THAT
WE'RE SUPPOSED TO GIVE. >> THEN IT WENT AWAY.
I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S SOMETHING AT THIS POINT WE SHOULD TRY TO GET DONE THIS YEAR OR IF WE SHOULD WAIT UNTIL THE NEXT YEAR.
I DON'T KNOW. I DON'T KNOW IF COMMISSIONER COULD TELL US HAVE THE COMMITTEES DONE THEIR REPORT.
I'VE SOMEONE DO IT. I SAW IT ON THE AGENDA.
>> PAB DID IT. >> ACCORDING TO RESOLUTION, THAT WAS PASSED THAT WE ARE SUPPOSED TO DO SOME SORT OF WORK PROGRAM, I THINK IT'S. JUNE, YOU WILL HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF TIME TO DEAL WITH THAT. I DIDN'T PUT THIS ON THE AGENDA.
>> I DID. >> IT'S A GOOD IDEA TO SUBMIT REPORT ANNUALLY TO ALL THE WORK THAT HAS BEEN DONE WITH THE BOARD. I BELIEVE IN THE FEBRUARY MINUTE. WE FORMED A SUBCOMMITTEE.
WE DID. THEN WE -- MAYBE IT WASN'T FEBRUARY. BECAUSE I WASN'T HERE.
IT JUST KIND OF FELL WAYSIDE. I DON'T KNOW -- THINK IT WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT WE SHOULD BOARD SHOULD PUT THEIR FEEDBACK INTO. EVEN IF IT'S SUBMITTED TO THEM IN FEBRUARY OR MARCH, BASICALLY BACK DATING TO THE YEAR 2020, I STILL THINK IT'S A GOOD IDEA TO DO IT.
>> ARE WE IN FAVOR FORMING ANOTHER SUBCOMMITTEE?
>> SURE. >> DO YOU WANT TO WAIT UNTIL
DECEMBER TO DO THAT? >> HELLO MEMBER KEGLER.
>> WELCOME. >> SORRY I'M LATE.
>> THAT'S THE REASON I'M LATE AS WELL.
>> I THINK IT'S A GOOD IDEA TO FORM IT THEN YOU CAN DECIDE IF YOU WANT IT TO BE DECEMBER OR JANUARY OR -- OR THE REPORT COULD BE DEVELOPED BY A BOARD MEMBER AND THEN COULD BE PRESENTED AT THE BOARD AND DISCUSSEDED AND ADDED TO DURING THOSE DISCUSSIONS. THAT'S UNLESS SUBCOMMITTEE TOTALLY FINE AS WELL. IF YOU HAVE TO MEET TWO OR THREE
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TIMES, THAT'S FINE WITH THE SUBCOMMITTEE.IF ANYONE WANTS TO JOIN US AT ANY POINT.
>> I DON'T REMEMBER THE DISCUSSION.
BUT I THINK -- WERE YOUR GIVEN SOME INFORMATION OR DID AN E-MAIL COME -- SOMEONE -- I THINK SOMETHING WENT OUT WITH SOME GUIDELINES. NO?
AM I WRONG ON THAT? >> POWERPOINT FROM PREVIOUS
YEARS. >> THAT'S WHAT I THOUGHT.
>> OKAY. >> CAN WE SET A DATE FOR JANUARY MEETING AT THE DECEMBER MEETING. OR DO YOU WANT TO DO IT NOW?
>> WE'RE SETTING IT IN JANUARY. I AUTOMATIC EVEN WILL BE STUCK AT HOME WITHCOID. IT WILL NOT MAKE ANY DIFFERENCE.
I AM OPEN AT ANY TIME. DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY TRAVEL
WHEN ARE YOU GOING TO BE GONE. 11TH TO THE 14TH.
>> YOU DON'T WANT THE WHOLE BOARD TO MEET?
>> THOSE WHO WANT TO ATTEND. I'M SURE WE COULD WORK IT OUT.
WE COULD SET CHAIRS AROUND SIX FEET APART IF WE HAVE TO.
THAT WOULD WORK. HOW ABOUT WE HAVE THE CALENDAR
OUT. >> SO THE REGULAR MEETING WOULD
BE IN JANUARY 2021. >> WOULD BUT AT 1:00.
>> WE SHOULD MEET BEFORE. WE HAVE SOMETHING TO BRING TO THE BOARD. WE HAVE SOMETHING TO DISCUSS.
THURSDAY THE 7TH? >> THAT'S GOOD.
AT 1:00. AND I WILL FIND THE LOCATION.
>> I'M SORRY, DID YOU SAY 1:00? >> 1:00, I WILL E-MAIL CHAIR ROSS WITH THE LOCATION. CONFIRM THE LOCATION AND TIME AND THEN WE'LL SEND OUT TO THE BOARD.
[6.1 Heroes Grove design update]
>> I THINK WE HAVE TIME TO DO HEROES GROWTH AT THE MOMENT.
MISS KIRKLAND? >> THANK YOU FOR I'M MARGARET KIRKLAND; PLANTATION POINT DRIVE.
THANKS FOR PUTTING US ON YOUR AGENDA YET AGAIN.
AND WE HAVE MADE SOME CHANGES IN THE PROPOSAL AND I HOPE THEY ARE IN LINE WITH WHAT YOU WOULD LIKE.
I'M NOT GOING TO BELABOR THIS. WE HAVE CHANGED THIS SCOPE.
CHANGED IT FROM CELEBRATION OF ENVIRONMENTAL VOLUNTEERS TO A CELEBRATION OF ALL VOLUNTEERS ON AMELIA ISLAND.
IF YOU WANT TO INTERRUPT ME FOR QUESTIONS.
THAT'S FINE. IN TERMS OF THE PROCESS, WE HAVE GOTTEN RID OF THE INDIVIDUAL BRICKS AND THE PROCESS FOR YOU GUYS TO SELECT PEOPLE EVERY YEAR.
AND SO IN TERMS OF WHAT WE WOULD PUT ON THE PLAQUE ON THE BOTTOM OF, WE ARE WILLING TO CONSIDER ANY CHANGES IN THAT.
THAT'S REVISED TO GO WITH NEW SCOPE OF THE PLAN.
THE LAST PAGE. THE PLAN ARTHER HAD DONE BEFORE.
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AND WHAT WE THINK ABOUT NOW IS USING THE STONE WITH A FLAG ON IT THE DRAWING THAT IN THE UPPER LEFT HAND CORNER OF THE DIAGRAM.WE'RE HAPPY TO ENTERTAIN ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU HAVE ABOUT IT. WE WOULD LIKE TO DO THIS.
IF IT'S NOT THE WILL OF THE COMMITTEE, THEN WE WILL LOOK FOR ANOTHER LOCATION. IT LOOKS LIKE THERE'S A SIGN
THAT WAS ONE -- THAT'S ANOTHER OPTION.
BUT -- >> WE'RE NOT USING THE SIGN.
>> JUST CROSS THAT OUT. >> I THINK THE STONEWALL WOULD BE LESS INTRUSSIVE AND THAT'S ONE OF THE POINT THAT ERIC HAD
ME FOR. >> I HAVE TWO QUESTIONS FOR THE GROUP. ON THE SECOND PAGE PROPOSAL THERE'S STILL A DESIRE TO IDENTIFY INDIVIDUALS THAT YOU ARE TRYING. THAT WAS ONE OF PRIMARY OBJECTIONS. IT'S PICKING PEOPLE WHO YOU WOULD NAME OR BOTHER. I STILL HAVE AN OBSERVATION TO THAT. I THINK PARTICULARLY IN LIGHT OF WHAT'S HAPPENING IN THE CITY WHERE THEY ARE ASKING THE CITY MANAGER THE COMMISSIONER ASKING TO US BE INVOLVED IN THE PROCESS FOR HOW WE GO ABOUT DOING THAT. THAT MAY BE APPROVED TO DO THAT.
BECAUSE THE CITY IS CONCERNED ABOUT WHAT WE DO ON CITY PROPERTY AND WHOM WE DESIRE TO NOMINATE.
IT'S THE SAME ISSUE AND I DON'T KNOW THE FOLKS.
I HAVE NOTHING PERSONAL TO SAY ABOUT THIS.
BUT, AGAIN, THERE'S LOTS OF PEOPLE OUT THERE.
I DON'T I DON'T SUPPORT HAVING SOMETHING THAT'S IDENTIFYING NATURE WHICH IS INITIAL OBJECTION.
THE OTHER QUESTION I HAVE THE WHEN I LOOK AT THAT DESIGN, IT APPEARS THAT IS MOVING VERY CLOSE TO THE SIDEWALK AREA OF
THE TENNIS COURT. >> IT SHOWS IT ON YOUR DESIGN.
I CAN ONLY LOOK AT THAT DESIGN AND DECIDE.
[INAUDIBLE] WHEN YOU LAY OUT THE TREES AND THE SHRUBS. I WAS LOOKING AT THE DESIGN.
YOU WILL HAVE THE PEOPLE FOR THE LIST STATION COME THROUGH THERE.
IT'S A CONCEPTUAL DESIGN. IT'S NOT THE SCALE OF THE EXACT LOCATION. IF IT'S APPROVED, I GO OUT AND PUT STAKES IN THE GROUND WHERE EVERYTHING WILL GO.
YOU CAN COME AND ASSESS THE PROPER LOCATION?
>> THAT AREA IS OUT UTILIZED BY OTHER GROUPS.
THE TENNIS PROGRAM HAS THERE BEEN ANY OUT JEECH.
IT'S OPEN SPACE. HAS BEEN USED BY OTHER GROUPS.
I DIDN'T MEAN TO INTERRUPT YOU. GO AHEAD.
>> 2162 BELVIDERE AVENUE. THE AREA REMAIN NATURAL OPEN AREA. IT'S THE PEOPLE WE'RE EXPECTING TO COME IF PEOPLE WALKING THROUGH.
HAVING LUNCH ON THE BENCH. CHILDREN RUN AROUND.
AND THAT'S IT. THERE'S MORE ACTIVITY IN THE PARK ITSELF WITH PLAYGROUNDS THAN THEY COULD EVER HAVE.
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I GUESS ALL GROUPS WOULD LOVE TO UTILIZE IT.IT'S NOT LIKE WE RESTRICT IT. I HAD A QUESTION.
KIND OF ECHOING MEMBER PUGH'S CONCERN.
WALK ME THROUGH THE PROCESS OF SELECTING NAMES AGAIN.
WHO IS ACTUALLY QUESTIONING TO GO ON IT AND HOW IS THAT AN JOE GOING FOR IDENTITY TYPE OF THING.
IN THE PROCESS. WE WOULD LIKE TO HAVE THESE NAMES ON THE PLAQUE. BECAUSE OF THEY ARE PEOPLE THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO HONOR THAT HAVE BEEN IMPORTANT FOR US IN ONE WAY OR ANOTHER. WE USUALLY TRY TO HONOR PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY THAT WE FEEL CONTRIBUTED A LOT.
IN THE PROCESS OF SECOND SELECTING PEOPLE TO ADD TO THAT.
DELETED THAT. THAT DIDN'T SEEM TO BE
COMFORTABLE. >> I THIS IN MY COMMUNICATION TO YOU I KIND OF EXPLAIN THAT. I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH YOU PUTTING THE NAME THE SPONSORS OF THIS ACTUAL PROJECT.
BUT MOVING FORWARD, I WAS CONCERNED HOW WE HANDLE THAT
BECAUSE THAT SEES PROBLEMATIC. >> YEAH.
I APPRECIATE THIS COMMUNICATION. BUT PUTTING THAT IN GOOD PERSPECTIVE. BEING THAT INCLUSIVE HONORING ALL VOLUNTEERS I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR DOING THAT.
I WANT TO ECHO WHAT MISS PUGH SAID.
JUST TO IDENTIFY FIVE PEOPLE'S NAME OUT OF HUNDREDS OF VOLUNTEERS. SO IF THERE'S A WAY TO SIMPLY FY AND COPY SO IT JUST REFERRED TO THE CONTRIBUTION.
>> AS LONG THE GRANT THAT WE RECEIVED OR WE WILL RECEIVE FOR THIS. APPROVE FOR IT AS WRONG AS THAT IS NOT CHANGED WE COULD DO THAT AND THEN WE WILL DO ANOTHER PLANTING SOMEWHERE ELSE HONORED THAT PEOPLE BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT WE DO. WHAT PEOPLE PASS AWAY.
>> SO YOU KNOW IF THEY CHANGE FOCUS FROM ENVIRONMENTAL TO VOLUNTEERS AND GENERAL, THEN THEY ARE WAITING.
THEN IF THERE'S STILL GOING TO FUND IT WE CAN TAKE THOSE OFF.
>> AND DO SOMETHING ELSE WITH IT.
>> MIGHT I JUST INTERJECT. I'M ALEXANDER LAJU.
PERHAPS THERE COULD BE INSCRIPTION THAT SAYS TO HONOR ALL VOLUNTEERS AND THEN YOU COULD SAY MORE INFORMATION VISIT AMELIA TREE CONSERVANCY.ORG. WHAT URL IS.
I SHOULD KNOW BY HEART. ON THAT I COULD BE PROMINENTLY HEROES GROVE A PICTURE OF THE GROVE AND THEN THE NAMES THE NAMES YOU WISH TO HONOR. AND THAT WOULD DRIVE MORE PEOPLE TO THE WEB SITE AND PERHAPS HELP MEMBERSHIP.
>> THAT'S FINE. >> YOU ARE THE DONORS.
YOU HAVE TO IDENTIFY YOURSELF AS THE DONOR.
BEYOND THAT WE CAN GO WITH THE SPIRIT OF MIKE.
>> I DIDN'T PUT THE WEB SITE ON HER TONIGHT.
>> I THINK THE ATC WOULD DESERVE CREDIT FOR COMING UP WITH THE ID
AND STARTING THE EFFORT. >> CONSENSUS THAT WE SHOULD
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REMOVE THOSE NAMES. I WILL APROVE THIS UNDER THE CONDITIONS. THAT'S MY -->> YOU KNOW, AT SOME POINT IF THE CITY DECIDES THAT WILL HAVE SOME KIND OF PROCESS OF HOW TO DO THAT.
I GUESS IT CAN BE REVISITED AGAIN.
>> I AGREE. I WOULD ACCEPT IT WITHOUT THE NAMES. IT'S GENERIC.
IT HONORS ALL VOLUNTEERS. IT'S WE'RE NOT PAYING FOR IT.
YOU ARE. IT'S JUST A GROVE OF TREE.
THERE'S A ROCK WITH PLAQUE ON IT TO HONOR ALL VOLUNTEERS.
>> GOT A FEW MORE QUESTIONS. >> ALL RIGHT.
THAT WILL NEED A REALLY BIG ROCK.
THEY PROBABLY HALF THAT SIZE. WE COULD THE JOB.
THREE FLOWERING DOGWOODS, AND OAK TREES.
SO THERE'S LIKE -- THERE'S FOUR DIFFERENT VARIETIES OF TREES.
ALL NATIVE PLANTS. THE LIVE OAKS THAT'S WHERE WE KNOW THE TREES ON THE ISLAND. MAGNOLIAS GIVE A BUFFER BETWEEN
THE TENNIS COURT AREA. >> RIGHT.
WHAT I PLAN TO DO IS GOING TO NURSERY ITSELF TO PICK OUT THE TREES. IT'S WHOLESALE NURSERY IN
JACKSON. >> AND PICK OUT WHAT I THINK IS THE CORRECT TREE AND I MAY JUST CHANGE IT ON SIDE IF I FEEL LIKE OKAY THE RED MAPLE HAS NICE LOOKING RED MAPLES.
I MIGHT GET I DON'T KNOW A DIFFERENT TREE.
>> AND YOU'RE CONFIDENT THAT THESE DIFFERENT TREE VARIETIES ARE WILL DO WELL. IN THE PAST REGARDED PLANTS THAT ARE SUITABLE FOR OUR HARDINESS ZONE BUT THEY DON'T DO WELL HERE. AND I WONDER ABOUT FLOWERING
DOGWOODS. >> THEY WILL BE FINE.
AS LONG AS THEY HAVE ENOUGH PROTECTION.
THEY ARE NOT -- IT'S NOT A GREAT THING.
>> AS LONG AS THEY MAINTAIN AND THEY WILL ESTABLISH.
IT'S NOT A GREAT THING TO PUT THEM OUT IN THE PLASTIC SUN ALL DAY. AS LONG AS THEY ARE IN THE SUN.
THERE'S SHADE IN AND OUT. >> SOME OF THESE ARE LISTED IN THE FLORIDA PLANT BOOK BIBLE. AS LIKE RED MAPLE HAVE LOW DROUGHT TOLERANCE AND ARE TEST SENSITIVE.
DOGWOOD TREES ARE LOW DROUGHT TOLERANT ALSO.
THEY NEED WATER. AND JUST ASKING THOSE QUESTIONS.
OKAY. THEN PLAN SHOWS THREE AREAS OF
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BUSHES DO YOU KNOW -- >> NATIVE SHORES.
>> NATIVE SHORES. >> NATIVE SHRUBS INDIGENOUS TO THE AREA. EVERYTHING THERE WILL BE NATIVE
TO THE AREA. >> YOU DON'T SPECIFICALLY KNOW
EXACTLY WHAT THOSE ARE? >> WHEN I GET THERE I WILL KNOW.
I KNOW IT'S MYRTLE, BERRY, WHATEVER I SEE IS GOING TO BE NATIVE AND ALSO FULL AND HEALTHY.
I GOT THOSE PLANS LOCALLY OVER THE BRIDGE.
>> I'M CONFIDENT THEY WILL WORK WITH NAN ON MAKING SURE THAT THE NAN IS OKAY WHAT IS PUT IN THERE AS WELL.
WOULD YOU AGREE WITH THAT? >> YEAH.
WE WILL BE IN -- WE'RE IN CONTACT WITH THE WHOLE PROCESS.
>> CAN YOU JUST -- BECAUSE I'M EX PILOT.
CAN YOU GIVE ME HEADING ON THAT. WHICH WAY IS NORTH? ? NORTH ON THE RIGHT.
>> OKAY. ATLANTA IT'S ON THE RIGHT.
THE BEACH ACROSS 13TH ACROSS THE BOTTOM.
I'M THINKING AREN'T THERE TREES IN THAT LOCATION EQUAL
>> THERE'S A FEW? >> WHAT WOULD HAPPEN IF THOSE
TREE EXISTING. >> THEY STAY RIGHT WHERE THAT ARE. THERE'S ONE OAK IN THE MIDDLE.
ONE NEAR THE PARKING. AND THE IDEA IS TO INCORPORATE THEM INTO THE GROVE CONCEPT. I JUST HAVE ONE OTHER QUESTION.
ARE YOU -- BECAUSE YOU HAVEN'T SEEN THE PRICING OF THAT.
ARE YOU TIED BY THE AMOUNT THAT'S IN HERE ON YOUR GRANT?
>> NO. I'M ONLY ASKING BECAUSE LIVE IN COMMUNITY. AND WE SPEND A FORTUNE ON OUR TREES. WE JUST REPLACED THREE LIVE 3 INCH OAKS. THEY WERE $800 A PIECE.
>> I'M GOING TO JACKSONVILLE. >> 550.
FROM THE NURSERY. THEY GREAT NURSERY.
THEY HAVE GREAT QUALITY TREES. ACTUALLY AFTER WE STARTED USING THEM THE CITY HAS USED THEM. I THINK THEY MAKE UP THERE.
THERE'S SOME TREES IN RECENT PLANTINGS IN THE PARK THAT DO
COME FROM THERE. >> DO YOU DO THE BAGS ALSO.
>> WE HAVE A DISCUSSION WITH NAN AND FIGURE OUT THE WATER SITUATION. WHAT'S THE MOST ADVANTAGEOUS WAY
TO DO IT. >> I'M NOT KEEN ON THE BAGS.
I'M RETIRED I'M THE KIND OF GUY DOING THIS FOR ALMOST 50 YEARS.
IF I DO PLANTING I STAND BY AND I WILL BE THERE TO MAKE SURE THAT PLANTING GOES WELL. THERE'S NOTHING ELSE.
>> THERE'S A SPRINKLER. THERE'S LOCALLY, I WILL RATHER
TAKE THE HOSE THERE. >> THERE'S A LINE OF TREES BETWEEN THE ELEMENTARY SCHOOL AND THE BOYS AND GIRLS SCHOOL THAT BOYS AND GIRLS CLUB THAT WE PLANTED.
THEY ARE GREAT LOOKING TREES. AND WE DID THAT A LONG TIME AGO.
>> THEY ARE STILL DOING GREAT. WE DONATED TREES TO THE TO THE PARK. AMERICAN BEACH.
WE JUST PLANTED LAST WINTER A COUPLE OF TREES RIGHT NEXT TO THE COMMUNITY CENTER. WE DON'T PLANT ANYTHING UNLESS IT IS NATIVE AND IT IS IN GREAT HEALTH AND IT'S A GOOD EXAMPLE AND IT'S APPROPRIATE SIZE TO BE PLANTING.
WE'RE NOT PLANTING TWIGS. WE'RE PLANTING SERIOUS TREES THAT COME FROM A REP REPUTABLE DEALER THAT WILL BE RESPONSIBLE
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AND WE EXPECT TO BE RESPONSIBLE ALSO.>> IT'S ONE YEAR GUARANTEE. THEY PLANT.
THEY DO THE PLANTING. FROM HEARING THE DISCUSSION DOES ONE OF THE BOARD MEMBERS WANTED TO MAKE A MOTION?
>> I WILL MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE THIS PROJECT AS PROPOSED WITH A LARGE BOLDER AND A PLAQUE POSSIBLY OF GOOD DIMENSION FOR THE TEXT AND THAT THE TEXT BE WRITTEN SUCH THAT THIS GROVE HONORED ALL VOLUNTEERS AND THAT IT INCLUDES THE WEB SITE WHERE THE DONOR AMELIA TREE CONSERVANCY.
>> DO I HAVE A SECOND? >> AND THAT THE PLAQUE SHALL BE VERY SIMPLE IN WORDING AND SHALL NOT NAME ANY PERSONS OTHER THAN THE CORPORATE PERSON OF AMELIA TREE CONSERVANCY?
>> I SECOND. >> WE WILL CALL TO VOTE.
>> I HAVE TO REDO. THAT WAS A LOT OF WORDS.
APPRECIATE ALL YOUR TIME. >> WE APPRECIATE YOU.
[7.2 Cemetery Finances]
I WOULD LIKE TO MOVE ON BRIEF DISCUSSION OF CEMETERY FINANCES.AND MR. NICHOLSON. WE NEED YOUR ASSISTANCE.
>> YES. >> I'M READY FOR YOUR QUESTIONS.
SHE DID SAY SHE WOULD PUT THOSE ON THERE.
I THINK SHE'S WORKING ON IT. >> IF ANYONE NEEDS -- YES.
SHE MR. NORRIS, DO YOU NEED -- >> I DO.
>> WE'VE HAD A NUMBER OF QUESTIONS ABOUT THE CEMETERY LATELY FROM CITIZENS AND I THOUGHT IT MIGHT BE A GOOD IDEA TO GO BACK THROUGH AND LOOK AT WHO IS THERE, WHAT ARE WE DOING THERE. AND HOW MUCH ARE WE SPENDING? RIGHT NOW CORRECT ME IF I'M INCORRECT.
THERE ARE TWO FULL-TIME PEOPLE WORKING AT THE CEMETERY.
>> THAT'S CORRECT. >> CAN YOU TELL ME WHAT THEY DO WHEN DMA ARE THERE? THEY DON'TED A ADMINISTRATIVE.
>> THAT'S CORRECT. THE TWO INDIVIDUALS THAT WORK THERE ARE BASICALLY MAINTENANCE MEETING LAWN MOWING, EDGING, NOT A LOT OF EDGING. WEED EATING.
LIMBS IN GETTING THE GRAVE AREAS.
IF THERE'S A GRAVE OR AREA COMING UP.
THEY WOULD CLEAN THAT A DAY OR SO BEFORE.
THE SERVICE. >> THAT IS THERE MAIN -- THAT'S THE MAIN FOCUS OF THEM. WHO DOES THEED A MEMBERSHIP
STRAYTY AND SALES OF THE LOTS? >> THE SALE OF THE LOTS IS THROUGH THE PARKS AND RECREATION DEPARTMENT.
TECHNICALLY DOES COME OUT OF THE GENERAL FUND.
SO WE AT THE PARK AND RECREATION DEPARTMENT HAVE A PART-TIME INDIVIDUAL STAFF ASSISTANT IS THAT TITLE CORRECT?
>> STAFF ASSISTANT? >> THAT WORKS ABOUT 29 HOURS ON THE MAIN ADMINISTRATIVE PART OF IT.
THAT DOESN'T INCLUDE ANY WORK THAT NAN OR MYSELF MIGHT DO WHICH ISN'T -- UNLESS THERE'S A PROJECT OF SORTS SHE WOULD BE HANDLING THE MAIN ASPECT OF THE SALE OF THE LOTS.
WE HAVE A NEW SOFTWARE SYSTEM IT'S CALLED PONTOM CEMETERY SOFTWARE THAT WE'RE SPENDING A LOT OF TIME UPLOADING.
WE A LOT OF FILES WERE IN MULTIPLE PLACE NOW WE INPUT INTO
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THE SOFTWARE. IT'S IN ONE SPOT.FOR FUTURE GENERATIONS IT WILL BE VERY, VERY SIMPLE.
>> THAT'S RIGHT. >> LOCATION AND -- LIKE A WAREHOUSE MANAGEMENT PROGRAM OR SOMETHING?
YOU CAN SAY THAT, YEAH. >> YOU SHOULD BE ABLE AS SEVERAL TRAIN WHO IS WHERE. THE RECORDS WE KNOW WHERE PEOPLE ARE. THE ONLY QUESTIONABLE THERE ARE SOME QUESTIONABLE SPOTS IN THE VERY ANCIENT SECTION INTO THE BACK OF THE CEMETERY. WE HAVE A DECISION SECTION WE CALL THE DIVISION THAT'S BECAUSE IT'S THAT'S HOW IT SAID DIVISION 66. SECTION THIS.
LOT THAT. WE CALL THE DIVISION SECTION.
FROM THAT TIME FORWARD. THE RECORDS ARE REALLY GOOD.
>> WE KNOW WHERE PEOPLE ARE BURIED.
>> IS THERE ANY INTENT TO PUT THAT ON THE CITY WEB SITE?
>> AND WE'LL HAVE AN ONLINE AS WE CONTINUE TO UPDATE THAT INFORMATION WE'LL HAVE AN ONLINE SEARCH SITE SO PEOPLE WITH GO RIGHT FROM OUR SITE TO THERE AND LOCATE THEIR LOVED ONES.
>> HOW DOES THIS RELATE TO THE BOSQUE BELLO CURRENT WEB SILENT WHICH I FOUND INTERESTING HISTORICALLY WHICH DOES SEEM TO HAVE A REALLY GOOD HISTORY OF EVERYONE WHO IS BURIED THERE
WHEN I WAS LOOKING AT NAMES. >> IT DEPENDS.
THERE'S DIFFERENT ONLINE BURIAL SEARCHES, LIKE FIND A GRAVE.
THE BOSQUE BELLO WEB SITE DOES HAVE HISTORICAL RECORDS SEARCH.
>> RIGHT. >> THERE ARE -- THROUGH OUR WEB SITE WE HAVE INFORMATION ABOUT THE CEMETERY.
WE DON'T HAVE LIKE THE SEARCH RIGHT NOW WHERE YOU CAN -- DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S THROUGH FIND A GRAVE.
WHERE THEY COULD TUESDAY BOSQUE BELLO CEMETERY BUT THEN THEY COULD USE THE FIND A GRAVE FOR THE SOFTWARE TO DO THE LOCATION.
I'M NOT EXACTLY SURE. BUT WE ARE IN THE PROCESS OF USING THIS SOFTWARE THAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE SO IT IS AVAILABLE FROM ALL THE RECORDS THAT WE HAVE.
WHICH WE HAVE MORE RECORDS THAN, YOU KNOW, WAY BACK.
>> JUST TO PIGGYBACK. WE HAVE QUITE A FEW MEMBERS FROM THE 33RD COVID INFANTRY REGIMEN THAT AT ONE TIME.
IN THE SOUTH CAROLINA REGULARS THAT GOT CONVERTED OVER TO THE NINTH AND TENTH WHATEVER. EYE BEEN DOING SOME RESEARCH IN THE CEMETERY. AND IS THERE A LINK TO FOR VETERANS EITHER CONFEDERATE SOLDIERS.
UNION SOLDIERS, THAT TYPE OF THING IS THAT SYSTEM GOING ENABLE THEM TO TIE YOU. IST SHOCKED.
YOU HAD QUITE A FEW. >> SO THAT IS THE -- FEW SHOULDERS. THAT'S THE ULTIMATE GOAL TO MAKE THE EASE OF THE SEARCH AND SEARCHES LIKE THAT WHERE THEY CAN GO AND TYPE IN KEY WORDS. AND, YES.
IT'S -- AND HONESTLY I THINK IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE COULD COME AND DO A LITTLE PRESENTATION ON THE SOFTWARE.
AND I THINK YOU GUYS WOULD BE VERY IMPRESS INSTEAD.
>> GREAT. >> AND WE COULD, YOU KNOW WE COULD DO THAT EARLY NEXT YEAR. YOU KNOW BRING THAT BACK TO YOU IF IT'S SOMETHING YOU COULD AND SHOW YOU THE SOFTWARE WE'RE IMPLEMENTING RIGHT NOW. WHICH WOULD GIVE YOU A LITTLE
BIT BETTER BACKGROUND. >> SOUNDS GREAT.
>> WE CAN DO THAT. >> I HAVE ANOTHER QUESTION.
COULD WE MOVE TO THE NEXT SLIDE PLEASE.
>> IN THE TOP SECTION THERE WAS OPERATING REVENUE AND I KNOW THAT THE LOT SORT OF SLUMPED OFF A BIT.
NOW THEY ARE RUNNING OUT OF LOTS RELATIVELY.
RELATIVELY SOON. BUT I WAS MORE INTERESTED IN THE CASH BALANCE FORWARD AT THE BOTTOM WHERE IT SAYS THE CASH BALANCE FOR THE -- THAT'S THE PERPETUAL CARE FUN.
>> YEAH. SO THE, YES THE CASH BALLON FOR RESTRICTED THE REST -- THE RESTRICTED WHICH TECHNICALLY PERPETUAL CARE FUND. THAT'S.
>> HAS -- HAS ANYONE LOOKED AT THE CAPACITY OF THE CEMETERY AS FAR AS WE KNOW WE WILL HAVE A COLUMBARIUM BUT YOU CAN ONLY GET
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SO MUCH ON THE LAND. HOW MUCH MONEY WILL IT TAKE TO TAKE CARE OF THIS ONCE IT GETS BUILT OUT.HAS ANYONE SAT DOWN AND MADE A STAB AT THAT?
>> YEAH. I THINK THESE ARE REALLY GREAT QUESTIONS THAT YOU'RE ASKING. BECAUSE IN THE NEAR FUTURE.
TEN YEARS FROM NOW, ABOUT GIVE OR TAKE, IS THE CEMETERY IF IT WERE JUST REMAIN EXACTLY HOW IT IS.
ABOUT TEN YEARS FROM NOW. THE CEMETERY WOULD BE FULL.
AT THAT POINT, THE PERPETUAL CARE FUND KICKS IN.
>> RIGHT. >> LET'S SAY AT THAT TIME WE LOOK AT ABOUT A MILLION AND YOU KNOW OF COURSE OBVIOUSLY THAT NUMBER WILL GO UP. WE MAY LOOK AT 1.5 MILLION.
MAYBE IF IT WERE TO CONTINUE TO GO AS SIT RIGHT NOW, WE WOULD BE MAYBE LOOKING AT ANOTHER 7 TO 10 YEARS.
AND THEN AT THAT POINT, THERE'S NO MONEY.
THEN IT'S SUBSIDIZED BY THE GENERAL FUND OF THE CITY.
THESE ARE GREAT QUESTIONS YOU ARE ASKING.
BECAUSE IN MY OPINION THERE ARE WAYS THAT WE CAN DO STUFF RIGHT NOW AND IMPLEMENT THAT TO EXTEND WHERE IT'S NOT SUBZIZED BY THE
>> GENERAL FUND. >> ALL RIGHT.
DOES ANYONE HAVE QUESTIONS ABOUT THIS PAGE?
>> I JUST HAVE A QUESTION. > SCOTT, WHAT ON THE SALES OF THE LOTS AND SO FORTH, DOES THAT COME BACK -- BECAUSE I DON'T UNDERSTAND THE NATURE OF THE RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN THE PERPETUAL FUND EXPENDITURES AND WHAT YOU TO PUT BACK INTO IT.
WHEN YOU SALE LOTS, DO THEY -- WHERE DOES THAT MONEY GO? .
>> RIGHT NOW WE USE 65% GOES INTO THE SALE OF THE LOT.
35% GOES PERPETUAL CARE FUND. 350 FOR THIS EXAMPLE WOULD GO INTO THE PERPETUAL CARE FUND THAT IS RESTRICTED.
BASICALLY WE'RE SAVING MONEY FOR THE FUTURE.
650 HELPS OFFSET THE CONSTANT EXPENSE OF THE CEMETERY MEANING THE PERSONAL TO MAINTAIN IT. THE COST OF NEW LAWNMOWER.
ALL OF THAT STUFF. THAT ON A YEARLY BASIS HELPS COVER THE COST. AND I THINK EVEN RIGHT NOW THE TECHNICALLY IF YOU LOOK AT IT, THE GENERAL FUND IS SUBSIDIZING IT ALREADY. BECAUSE 29 HOURS A WEEK IS BEING PUT INTO ADMINISTRATIVE SIDE OF IT.
THERE ARE AT TIMES WHERE THE PARKS DEPARTMENT DOES GO OUT THERE AND HELP CATCH UP MAINTENANCEWISE.
A LOT OF THE SECTION YOU HAVE TO WEED.
THEN THEY GO OUT AND I THINK THIS PARTICULAR YEAR IN THE BUDGET THERE'S MONEY THAT IS BUDGETED FOR A NEW -- A NEW TRUCK POSSIBLY. THAT IS BEING SUBSIDIZED BY THE
GENERAL FUND AS WELL. >> I ASSUME THAT THESE FIGURES ARE NET 35% THAT YOU HAVE TO TRANSFER.
IN THE BUDGET. LIKE IF I'M LIKING AT THE ACTUAL FOR '19 UNDER YOUR OPERATING REVENUES.
I ASSUME THAT THESE PERMITS AND SALES AND THOSE FIGURES ARE ACTUALLY GET PAID OUT 35% TO THE PERPETUAL FUND.
>> IS THAT CORRECT? I'M TRYING TO -- I THINK WHAT SHE IS ASKING SCOTT. THE 35% JUST TAKEN FROM THE SALE OF THE LOT OR IS IT ALSO TAKEN FROM THE BURIAL PERMITS THE
ALL OF THAT OTHER STUFF THAT'S 65 AND 35% IS JUST BASED ON THE SELLING OF THE GRAVES. THE MONUMENT PERMITS, WHICH IS REALLY NOT -- WE'RE NOT BRINGING IN MUCH MONEY THROUGH MONUMENT PERMITS OR BURIAL PERMITS, THAT IS JUST STRAIGHT REVENUE.
THAT'S NOT BROKEN UP INTO PERPETUAL CARE.
AND THE REGULAR. UNDER YOUR ACTUAL FOR 2019 AND YOU'RE OPERATING REVENUE. 185,000 AND CHANGE IS BASICALLY
WHAT YOU TOOK IN. >> THAT'S CORRECT.
>> BUT THEN OBVIOUSLY YOU HAVE TO MINUS THAT --
>> THAT'S JUST SHOWING THE OVERALL REVENUE.
YEAH, YOU WOULD HAVE TO TAKE OUT 64,000 THAT'S SHOWN IN THE
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PERPETUAL CARE, THAT WILL GET RESTRICTED.>> THAT WOULDN'T BE YOUR TOTAL OPERATING BUDGET.
>> ALL RIGHT. >> WHERE IS THAT SHOWN ON HERE
THAT, THAT'S TRANSFERRED BACK? >> IT'S DOWN IN THE BOTTOM LINE AND CASH BALANCE FORWARD. AND IT SAYS CATCH BALANCE FOR I DON'T KNOW WHAT RSPD. IT'S PUT INTO THAT.
>> THERE MUST BE SOMETHING ELSE THERE THEN.
IT'S 68 AND 64. THAT'S WHY I WASN'T SURE.
I COUNT FIGURE IT OUT. >> ONE THING I WOULD LIKE TO POINT OUT IS THAT SINCE WE'RE SELLING FEWER LOTS THAT ARE SLOWER PACE. THE NUMBERS WE RECEIVED FOR REVENUE ARE NOT COVERING WHAT WE NEED TO COVER IN THE GENERAL FUND IS GOING TO BE PICKING UP AND THEY ALREADY HAVE STARTED PICKING UP. SOME OF THE SHORTFALL AND THE EMPLOYEE REQUIREMENTS AND THE OTHER EXPENSES TO RUN THE CEMETERY. SO I UNDERSTAND THE NEED FOR THE COLUMBARIUM. I'M NOT SURE WHERE THAT IS GOING AT THIS POINT. I KNOW 257,000 THEY WANTED WASN'T EXACTLY WHAT WE HAD IN MIND.
I THINK THERE'S SOME DISCUSSION ABOUT INSTEAD OF USING EMPLOYEE HEALTH. I THINK THAT'S 137,855 FOR THE TWO EMPLOYEES. THAT WE MIGHT BE LOOKING AT SOME CONTRACT LABOR. TO ANSWER THAT IS YES WE'VE DONE THAT IN THE PAST. WHICH DEAD GO BACK TO HAVING EMPLOYEE DOES IT. TO ME I'M NOT FOR ANYONE WANTING TO LOSE JOBS AND I DON'T THINK WE WOULD I DON'T THINK WE WOULD HAVE TO. THEY COULD BE MOVED TO MAYBE THE PARK DEPARTMENT OF BUT THAT'S A DIFFERENT -- THAT WOULD BE FOR A DIFFERENT DISCUSSION. IF YOU LOOK AT THE BUDGET, YOU WOULD SAY THAT WOULD BE THE WAY TO SAVE THE MOST AMOUNT OF
MONEY. >> I DID GET AND THIS JUST -- THIS IS WITHOUT DOING A LOT OF REALLY DETAILED RESEARCH AND GOING OUT TO GET SOMEONE TO COME IN AND DO THE MAINTENANCE.
A NUMBER AROUND 70,000 TO DO IT. WHEN YOU DO THAT YOU LOOK AT REDUCING THE OTHER COST ASSOCIATED WITH THAT BUYING NEW LAWNMOWERS. BUYING NEW WEED EATER.
THE AMOUNT OF STRAIN THEY GO THROUGH FUEL, VEHICLES IS ANOTHER LARGE EXPENSE. TO ME I THINK THESE QUESTIONS ARE REALLY GOOD. I'M GLAD YOU ARE ASKING THEM.
THEY NEW HAVE BEEN ASKED FOR A LONG TIME.
IT'S GREAT PEOPLE ARE DRAWING ATTENTION TO IT.
BECAUSE I THINK THERE'S SOME COST SAVING MEASURES AND I THINK WE REALLY NEED TO CONSIDER HOW WE CAN MAKE THIS SUSTAINABLE WITHOUT BEING -- USING THE GENERAL FUND AS MUCH AS WE ARE.
AND ESPECIALLY IN THE FUTURE. >> JUST ONE MORE ALTERNATIVE WOULD BE INSTEAD OF TWO-FULL-TIME EMPLOYEES COULD HAVE BE ONE FULL-TIME OR TWO HALF TIME EMPLOYEES.
BECAUSE I CAN'T IMAGINE THAT OUTSIDE CONTRACTOR WOULD BE ANY MORE EOFFICIAL THAN OUR EMPLOYEES OUR EMPLOYEES ARE PERFECT I WILL WELL QUALIFIED TO BE EFFECTIVE AND EFFICIENT.
I DON'T SEE WHY. >> LET'S TALK ABOUT THAT.
AS FAR AS LEVEL OF CARE. I KIND OF ASKED FOR THOSE PHOTOS. WE HAD DISCUSSION ABOUT THE LEVEL OF CARE AND SERVICE THAT THE CEMETERY HAS BEEN HAVING.
AND SOME ITEMS THAT HAVE IS I HAVE BEEN OF CONCERN.
SOME HEAVIER EQUIPMENT HAS BEEN USED.
I WILL BE TRUTH IN LENDING HERE. SOME OF THESE PICTURES ARE OLDER. AND I THINK A LOT OF THESE
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ISSUES HAVE PROBABLY BEEN ADDRESSED.BUT THE DAMAGE REMAINS. IT'S MUCH EASIER FOR STAFF USE MACHINERY AND NOT USE WEED EATER.
WE'LL GO TO THAT. >> THIS TO ME IS ANOTHER DISCUSSION FOR QUITE SOMETIME, WE'VE BEEN HANDS OFF MONUMENT.
HOWEVER, IT'S OUR CEMETERY. ESPECIALLY IN THE ANCIENT SECTION, GENERATION PASS AND PASS AND THERE'S NO ONE AROUND TO MAINTAIN THEM. NOW WE HAVE CEMETERY WHERE SOME MONUMENT ARE FALLING APART. THE GROUND SHIFTS.
THERE'S EROSION. TO ME WE DO -- THIS IS EXPENSE THAT WE LOOK INTO OF MAINTAINING THE MONUMENTS.
>> WHEN YOU SEE THAT. WHAT WE ARE CONCERNED ABILITY IS REVENUE PRODUCTION. MY FIRST THOUGHT.
DO THEY MAKE MONEY? >> IT'S JUST SITTING THERE.
THAT'S A REVENUE OPPORTUNITY RIGHT HERE.
BECAUSE IT'S LONG-TERM. EVEN IF IT GETS 3, 4, OR WHATEVER. THAT WOULD BE AWESOME.
THEY ARE PERFECT. THE REVENUE THEY COULD BE DOING SOMETHING. CONSIDER WHAT IS THERE FOR.
IT'S FUTURE USE. IT'S KIND OF LIKE LETTING THE MONEY SIT OUT THERE. AND SIT IN CERTIFICATE OF DEPOSIT. I'M SURE IT'S EARNING SOMETHING.
THAT'S SOMETHING -- >> IT'S A CHECK.
THAT'S ONE OPPORTUNITY. THE OTHER THING WE TALK ABOUT FINITE AMOUNT OF SPACE. IT'S LIKE THEY CAN ONLY PRODUCE IN MY BUSINESS EVERY SQUARE FOOT IS WORTH A CERTAIN AMOUNT.
HOW YOU TEND TO UTILIZE IT UP TO YOU TO GENERATE MORE REVENUE OR NOT. IF MY FAMILY IS ALL OVER THE PLACE. IN THE ANCIENT SECTION IT USE FLOW. YOU WILL SEE THE WATER LEVELS GO UP AND DOWN. THERE'S GOING TO BE SOME OF THAT SPACE BACK THERE. I'M SEEING IT.
IF WE HAVE FINITE AMOUNT OF SPACE HOW MUCH DOES IT PRODUCE PER SQUARE FOOT? WHAT'S STILL OUT THERE.
HOW MANY PLAQUES DO WE PLANT. IF WE CAN -- IF WE PUT THE URN SPACE, HOW MUCH REVENUE DOES IT GENERATE PER SQUARE FOOT AS OPPOSED TO NORMAL PLOT? THAT'S WHEN I FIRST HEARD THIS THING. THAT'S WHAT I WAS THINKING ABOUT. MY MOM DOESN'T WANT TO BE BURIED NEXT TO MY DAD. I THERE WE LOOK AT ANOTHER 1,000 PLACES WHICH ISN'T A LOT. I BELIEVE WE COULD IN THE EXISTING SPACE THAT WE HAVE. IRTHINK WE COULD LOOK AT ABOUT ANOTHER 1,000. GRANTED, I DON'T THINK A LOT OF PEOPLE WE WOULD GET SOME PUSH BACK ON THIS.
BECAUSE THE GRAVES WOULD GO IN EXISTING WALKWAYS THAT WE HAVE ALREADY SOLD AS YOU BUY THIS SPOT.
THIS WALKWAY. THAT WOULD BE FILLING UP THIS
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SPACE. AS OPPOSED TO ONE INDIVIDUAL THAT IS SITTING THERE, MAYBE WE COULD HAVE YOU CAN TAKE IT UP LIKE AN APARTMENT SITUATION AND HAVE MULTIPLE OPPORTUNITIES TO GENERATE REVENUE IN SAME SQUARE FOOTAGE.>> CORRECT. >> SOME PEOPLE HAVE ISSUES WITH SIGHT LINES. HOWEVER, THE COLUMBARIUM WE LOOK AT 1500. WITH WAY IT IS NOW THERE'S 1,000. THERE'S ROOM TO GROW IN THERE TO MAKE IT MAYBE 2,000 OR 2500. YOU MAYBE LOOK AT AN ADDITIONAL IN THAT SAME AREA 300. AND TO ME THE PRICE OF NITCH DOING SOME RESEARCH I MEAN THE PRICE -- T PRICE OF NICHE IN CERTAIN AREAS ARE 3,000. I'M NOT SAYING THAT SHOULD BE THE PRICE. BUT WHAT I SAY IS THAT THE NICHE CAN BE JUST AS EXPENSIVE AS IT IS IN FRONT OF THE GRAVE.
BUT FROM SQUARE FOOTAGE PERSPECTIVE.
IT'S GENERATING MORE REVENUE. GENERATING MORE REVENUE.
>> COULD WE GO BACK TO FEW MORE OF THE PICTURES AND I'M GOING TO DO THIS. BECAUSE I NEED TO MAKE A POINT.
WHEN THE MACHINERY PUSHES AGAINST THE MONUMENTS, THEY TEND TO LEAN AND THEN THE NEXT ONE THE ACTUAL MACHINERY IS FROM TIME TO TIME CUTTING INTO THIS STONES.
THIS IS NOT HAPPENING ALL THE TIME.
IF THERE WERE SOME TIMES THAT DID HAPPEN, AND THE TIRE TRACKS OVER THE GRAVESITES, SO -- THERE'S ONE OF EURO 33RD REGIMENT. I WILL DEFEND THE STAFF A LITTLE BIT HERE. WHEN PEOPLE SEE A LAWN MOWER A LOT OF THE CEMETERY IS NOT GRASS.
ITS WEEDS AND SAND WITH A LITTLE BIT.
NOTHING HOLDING IT. ANYTIME YOU HAVE LAWNMOWER THAT DOES 360 TURN, IT GRABS AND DIVISIONS.
IT DOESN'T LOOK THE BEST. >> I GUESS -- JUST BEFORE WE LEAVE THE ISSUE OF STAFF VERSES CONTRACT WORKERS.
I BELIEVE THAT IF WE CAN RETAIN THE STAFF, POSSIBLY REDUCE THE HOURS. IF THEY ARE OVERPAID.
IN FACT GIVE THEM TRAINING GIVE THEM CREDENTIALS AND HELP THEM VALUE THE HISTORICAL PART OF THE CEMETERY AND PERHAPS BECOME HISTORIANS, GUARDIANS AND REALLY MAKE IT A VERY EXCITING JOB HERE IN THE CITY RATHER THAN JUST OUT SOURCING IT.
ONCE YOU OUT SOURCE YOU LOSE LOYALTY AND ENGAGEMENT.
YOU CAN BE HELD RANSOM TO HIGHER AND HIGHER RATES.
YOU HAVE A GREAT DEAL OF CONTROL AND MORAL AUTHORITY.
I'M ENTHUSIASTIC ABILITY KEEPING THE TEAM AND BUILDING THEM AND
TRAINING THEM. >> IT'S ONLY TWO INDIVIDUALS.
SO THAT THE POTENTIAL SAVING ISN'T THAT ALL THAT -- VERSES THE CONTRACTOR THAT WILL COME IN AND NOT HAVE THE SAME.
I THINK THE ISSUE THAT THEY ARE RAISING.
MEMBER VOSS RAISING WOULD BE MAGNIFIED BY TEN IF WE HAD CONTRACTOR. THEY DON'T KNOW ANYTHING.
THEY DON'T KNOW WHO THE PEOPLE ARE OR ANYTHING.
YOU ADDS THERE 2018 ACCORDING TO BUDGET.
THAT'S CORRECT. I WILL SAY FOR QUITE SOMETIME THAT I BELIEVE WHEN PARKS WAS UNDER STREETS BEFORE IT CAME
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BACK TO PARKS AND RECREATION WE HAD ANOTHER INDIVIDUAL GETTING PAID OUT OF THAT DEPARTMENT THAT WAS WORKING OUT THERE.>> SO TO SHOW IT CORRECTLY, IT WAS PUT UNDERNEATH.
>> I KNOW THEY SHIFT IT OUT OF PARKS AND BACK.
>> I WILL SAY THAT IF WE'RE GOING TO DO THE COLUMBARIUM AND WE'RE TRYING TO ATTRACT PEOPLE TO THE CEMETERY.
WE WILL HAVE TO FIGURE OUT A WAY TO MAKE IT MORE ATTRACTIVE.
WITH THE LAWN CARE AND SOME OF THE ISSUES THAT WE SEE.
I WABLT TO SEM TAI AND WALKED AROUND.
FOR THE MOST PART THE FRONT LOOKS NICE.
AS YOU GET BACK FURTHER, THE ANCIENT AREA AND THE AREAS WITH WEEDS I'M NOT SURE HOW YOU ATTRACT PEOPLE WHO WANT TO BUY A LOT IF THEY CAN FIND SOMETHING THAT'S BETTER IN ANOTHER PLACE.
I DON'T KNOW HOW WE ADDRESS THAT AT THIS TIME.
BUT IT'S COMES TO OUR ATTENTION FEW TIMES A ABOUT THE MAINTENANCE OF THE CEMETERY AND IT SEEMS TO BE OF SOME CONCERN.
PARTICULARLY THE FRIENDS OF THE CEMETERY.
>> AND SPEAKING OF MAINTENANCE OF THE CEMETERY.
THERE'S ALSO THE ISSUE OF TREATMENT OF TREES AND AGAIN I THINK TRAINING WOULD HELP. IT'S REALLY NOT THE FAULT OF EMPLOYEES. THEY DON'T KNOW BETTER.
>> THE OTHER THING THAT I THINK DRIVES SOME AT LEAST INTEREST IS -- THERE'S SOME AMAZING STORIES.
AND BOSQUE BELLO -- YOU HAVE TWELVE NUNS.
YOU GOT THE DELANEY FAMILY. JOHN STAGE.
YOU HAVE SO MUCH HUSK OUT THERE. I'M BLOWN AWAY BY I FOUND HE'S THE ONE THAT USED TO RUN AT THE WHITE HOUSE THE LIGHTHOUSE.
AT ONE POINT IN 1800S. AND I BELIEVE HE WAS ELECTED MAYOR BACK IN THE EARLY 1900S. BUT THE HISTORY THAT WE HAVE HERE, I THINK WOULD DRIVE A LOT MORE TOURISM AS WELL.
I'VE DONE THE TOURS HERE. I THINK CEMETERY TOURS WITH THE FRIENDS OF BOSQUE BELLO. THEY ARE PRETTY AMAZING.
I THINK WE CAN LEVERAGE THAT AS WELL IF WE DO MORE BRAGGING ON
WHAT WE HAVE. >> I'M SUGGESTED THAT DEVELOPMENT OF AN ACT. I DON'T KNOW IF ANYONE HAS DONE IT ON TOUR WHERE YOU JUST DOWNLOAD THE APP OFF THE INTERNET ON YOUR PHONE AND YOU PUT YOUR EAR BUDS IN AND GUIDES YOU THROUGH YOUR TOUR. TO SELL THE APP EVERY TIME YOU USE IT. THE FRIENDS OF THE CEMETERY WERE NOT HAPPY THAT. FRIENDS OF BOSQUE BELLO.
THEY THOUGHT THAT THE HISTORIC AREAS WERE SHOULDN'T BE I DON'T WANT TO -- THEY WERE FRAGILE AND THEY DIDN'T WANT A LOT OF PEOPLE CRAWLING AROUND IN THERE. AND THEN WE ALSO HAVE AN ISSUE OF THE SECURITY OF IT. THERE'S NO FENCE AROUND THE CEMETERY. THEY CAN'T CLOSE IT OFF AT NIGHT. THERE'S A NUMBER OF ISSUES THAT
GO INTO THAT. >> MY DAD SAID HE DIDN'T WANT TO
BE IN THERE AT NIGHT. >> I WOULDN'T.
>> BUT ANYWAY. >> JUST FROM A STAFF'S STANDPOINT. I PERAPPRECIATE YOU BRINGING TH UP. FROM WHAT I HEAR AROUND TOWN AND PEOPLE ARE STARTING TO REALLY TALK ABOUT CEMETERY IN MY OPINION A LOTTED MORE. AS WE START DISCUSSING THIS THAT'S WHEN THINGS START HAPPENING.
>> THE COLUMBARIUM PROCESS. I'M WORKING WITH SAL.
AND WE ARE COMING UP FROM HAVING THE DISCUSSION WITH YOU.
I THINK YOU'RE MAIN CONCERN JUST FROM HEARING YOU GUYS IS THAT THE COST OF IT. I MEAN, IT'S EXPENSIVE.
AND LOOKING AT THE BIG ASPECT OF IT.
WE ARE COMING ARE GOING TO COME UP WITH A BUSINESS PLAN AND A MARKETING PLAN AND WE WILL PRESENT IT TO YOU.
>> THANK YOU. THAT'S WHERE WE ARE RIGHT NOW.
>> ALL RIGHT. >> AND I DO -- I DO FEEL THAT WHEN WE PRESENT THIS PLAN TO YOU, YOU KNOW, THAT YOU WOULD
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FEEL CONFIDENT IN THE FINANCIAL ASPECT OF MOVING FORWARD WITH A COLUMBARIUM. I DON'T THINK YOU WILL WANT TO MOVE FORWARD OR WOULD YOU KNOW GIVE YOUR APPROVAL TO QUESTION FORWARD TO THE COMMISSION UNLESS YOU WERE COMFORTABLE WITH THE FINANCIALS OF IT. THAT'S WHAT WE WANT TO PRESENT>> IF THE NEED IS TO FOR THE LONG TERM FINANCIAL SUCCESS OF THE CEMETERY. IF YOU NEED TO USE THE LAND MOST EFFICIENTLY AS MR. KEGLER REFERRED TO.
THE COLUMBARIUM, THE INITIAL DESIGN FOR COLUMBARIUM IS A VERY BIG WIDE OPEN THING THAT TAKES UP A LOT OF SPACE.
WOULDN'T THAT MAKE SENSE TO PURSUE A DESIGN IN WHICH IT'S AS
COMPACT AS IT CAN BE. >> WE WILL LEAVE SOME OF THAT IT
NOWS TAKE UP FOR GRAVESITES. >> I WOULD DISAGREE WITH THAT.
AND THE REASON WOULD BE WE COULD TAKE THE COLUMBARIUM AND WE'RE STILL PUTTING A MORE NICHES ON THAT AREA.
THAN WE WOULD BE GRAVESITES. OWOULD WANT TO MAKE IT COMPACT.
BUT YOU COULD TAKE THAT EXISTING DESIGN AND EVEN ADD MORE THAT WERE TO CALL GARDEN NICHES TO CONTINUE TO GROW AS WE GO IN THE FUTURE. IN THAT SPOT WHICH RUNS NORTH AND SOUTH, YOU WOULD ONLY BE LOOKING AT ADDING ANOTHER MAYBE 160 -- LET'S JUST SAY 200 LOTS. YOU TECHNICALLY COULD FILL THE WHOLE AREAS WITH NICHES. WITH THE EXACT PLAN RIGHT NOW.
I CAN'T REMEMBER OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD, BUT I THINK IT'S
BETWEEN AROUND 800 MAYBE. >> I THINK WE WILL WAIT FOR YOUR BUSINESS PLAN. I THINK THAT'S A GOOD IDEA.
AND IF ANYONE WOULD LIKE TO MEET WITH THE FRIENDS OF THE BOSQUE BELLO CEMETERY ABOUT THIS ON THE COMMITTEE HERE, YOU MAY WANT TO TALK TO SCOTT ABOUT THAT. AND TALK TO THEM, BECAUSE THEY'VE BEEN INVOLVED IN THIS FOR QUITE SOMETIME.
THERE'S A LOT OF HISTORY WITH IT.
IT'S WELL WORTH THE EFFORT IF YOU WANT TO TAKE THE TIME TO DO THAT. I'M GOING TO PASS UP IMPACT FEE
YES. >> ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL IS IF THIS WAS TURNED -- AND WE GOT DESIGNATION AS A HISTORIC PRESERVATION. NATIONAL PRESERVATION.
IT'S POSSIBLE TO DO THAT. WAT'S THE ADVANTAGE OF DOING THAT. YOU CAN NOW START GETTING GRANTS AND OTHER THINGS. I'M LOOKING FOR A VOLUNTEER.
I'M JUST PUTTING THAT OUT THERE. IT'S A FAIR AMOUNT OF WORK.
BUT IT DOESN'T NEED A COMMITTEE. IT NIDES ONE PERSON DEDICATED TO DOING IT AND HAS THE TIME. IF ANYONE KNOWS OF ANYBODY GIVE
ME A CALL. >> WHY WOULDN'T -- HISTORIC
DISTRICT. >> I WOULD THINK THE FRIEND OF BOSQUE BELLO. NO ONE STEPPED UP TO THE PLACE
TO BE REAL HONEST ABOUT IT. >> MAYBE THEY WILL.
BUT IT'S A LOT OF WORK FOR SOMEBODY.
THEY DON'T HAVE THE TIME TO DO IT.
IT'S NOT -- THERE'S SOME PUSH BACK.
AND SOME THINGS THAT NEED TO DO IT.
MAKING CEMETERY. >> THERE'S LOTS OF ITEM THAT
NEED TO BE DISCUSSED. >> BUT ANYONE KNOWS OF SOMEONE
WHO MAY WANT -- >> I WOULD AGREE WITH THAT THOUGH. IT'S JUST THE GRANT MONEY THAT COULD BE RECEIVED. WITH THE REPAIR OF THE MONUMENTS I THINK THAT WOULD BE A GREAT IDEA.
>> IF YOU LOOK AT THE MASTER PLAN FOR THE CEMETERY.
I THINK THAT WAS FIVE YEARS AGO. STILL NO ONE STEPPED UP TO THE
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>> JEAN ASKED ABOUT THAT. WE'RE RUNNING OUT OF TIME.
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COULD WE PUT THIS ON THE NEXT MEETING'S AGENDA.>> I JUST ASKED ABOUT THIS AND SO FORTH.
I WAS SURPRISED TO FIND OUT THAT RECREATION FEES ARE NOT ASSESSED ON COMMERCIAL PROPERTY. AND I THINK THAT'S THE LOSS SOURCE OF REVENUE. THAT WE'RE NOT GUARDING.
>> YES, IT IS. >> BUT HERE'S THE PUT, IMPACT FEES UNDER FLORIDA STATE LAW HAVE TO BE -- THERE HAS TO BE DIRECT NEXUS BETWEEN THE USER AND THE ACTIVITY.
IF YOU COME UP WITH A COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT CREATES THE NEED FOR RECREATIONAL SPACE, YOU CAN CHARGE AN IMPACT FEE.
WE COULD DO IT IF WE DEFINE WHAT WE DO AT THE BOARDWALKS AND THE PROJECTS LIKE RIVER FRONT PARK. CLEARLY THAT'S AN IMPACT.
HOTELS ARE BRINGING PEOPLE IN. BUSINESSES BRING PEOPLE IN.
AND THEY USE THE FACILITY. >> I LOOKED.
AND NOBODY ELSE HAS COME UP WITH A WAY OF MAKING NEXUS.
IF YOU CAN FIND SOMETHING. I'M MORE THAN HAPPY TO PURSUE THAT. ANOTHER COMMUNITY? ANOTHER PLACE IN FLORIDA THAT HAS MANAGED TO DO IT?
>> YOU HAVE TO SHOW RATIONALE NEXUS BETWEEN THE COMMERCIAL
DEVELOPMENT AND -- >> HOW DO YOU SHOW IT WITH EMT OR FIRE. HOW MANY TIMES YOU CAN GO AND SOMEONE GOES IN BUSINESS? HOW DO YOU SHOW IT?
>> IT'S NOT -- IT'S NOT A DIRECT TO THAT BUSINESS.
IT'S IN GENERAL A BUSINESS MEETS FIRE DEPARTMENT.
BUSINESS DOESN'T NEED RECREATION DEPARTMENT.
>> THAT'S WHAT BRINGS THEIR PEOPLE HERE.
>> THEY COME TO USE THE BEACHES AND PARKING LOTS AND EVERYTHING ELSE. IF YOU CAN FIND ME A CITY THAT DOES IT. I'M MORE THAN HAPPY TO PURSUE IT. HAS ANYONE CHECKED WITH ANYBODY?
>> I LOOKED AND I COULDN'T FIND ANY.
>> ANYONE CONTACT THE FLORIDA LEAGUE?
>> I DID NOT. COMMISSIONER ROSS, IF SOMEONE BUILDS A HOTEL WHICH SERVES THE TOURISM INDUSTRY, THEN USES RECREATIONAL. HOTEL SMALL PART OF WHAT GET
BUILT COMMERCIALLY. >> CERTAINLY THERE ARE PLACES WHERE IT WOULD NOT APPLY. BUT MAYBE THERE ARE PLACES WHERE IT WOULD APPLY. CAN YOU SEGREGATE THOSE
CAN YOU BREAK UP COMMERCIAL INTO DIFFERENT CATEGORIES.
I DON'T KNOW THE ANSWER TO THAT QUESTION.
>> WOULD YOU BE TALKING ABOUT THE NEW HOTEL BUILT ON ATLANTIC?
>> AFFECTING LIKE THE MAIN BEACH AREA?
>> ABSOLUTELY. >> IT'S PROBABLY TOO LATE.
THE BUSES LEFT THE STATION. IT'S TOO LATE FOR THAT BUT WE HAVE TWO MORE HOTELS PROPOSED ON FLETCHER.
>> OKAY. I WOULD LIKE GO ON TO NUMBER 8
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OTHER BUSINESS. THERE WERE TWO ITEMS MISSING FROM TAGGED. ONE IS THE UPDATE AND OTHER PUBLICS COMMENTS NOT ON THE AGENDA.IS THERE ANYONE HERE WHO WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A COMMENT?
>> NO COMMENTS. FOR SOME OF THE UPDATE.
IS THERE ANYTHING GOING ON. BUILDING REPAIRING?
I DO THINK THERE'S ONE THING THAT WE DO WANT TO BRING TO YOU GUYS IN THE NEAR FEATURE IS REGARDING SOME OF OUR MEMORIAL BENCHES. THERE'S BEEN SOME TALK OF THAT RECENTLY. AND WE'RE COMING UP WITH A GOOGLE MAP OF ALL THE MEMORIAL BENCH THAT WE HAVE.
AND JUST KIND OF WANT TO KEEP YOU INFORMED ON HOW MANY OF THEM WE HAVE. WHERE THEY ARE, THE WENCHES THAT ARE DOWNTOWN. AND WHO IS IN CHARGE OF THAT JUST TO GIVE YOU SOME BACKGROUND ON IT.
THERE'S WE WANT SOME SUPPORT ON BASICALLY KIND OF STOPPING OUR MEMORIAL BENCH PROGRAM OR PUTTING A HIATUS ON IT UNTIL WE CAN EXACTLY REVIEW ALL OF THOSE LOCATIONS AND THEN COME UP WITH ARE THERE ANY OTHER LOCATIONS? WE CAN PUT A MEMORIAL BENCH
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REALLY ANYWHERE BUT DO WE WANT IT OVER SATURATED.THAT WILL BE COME COMING YOU NEAR FEATURE.
ARE THEY STILL 800 OR DO THEY GO UP KWCHLT --? I SAW YOUR BENCH. IT LOOKS NICE.
THE PRICES AND THIS IS DISCUSSION TO KEEP YOU INFORMED.
BUT PRICES ARE ARE DIFFERENT DEPENDING ON THE SIZE.
THERE'S SOME BENCHES DOWNTOWN THOSE RANGE -- THE BENCHES DOWNTOWN ARE ACTUALLY BEING RAN THROUGH THE MAIN STREET COMMITTEE. THERE'S SOME STUFF ON SOCIAL MEDIA THAT I THINK IT WOULD BE GOOD FOR TO US GET CLEARED UP.
[8.1 Comprehensive Plan Update to include: a. Work Flow for the Comp Plan Rewrite b. Coastal Element c. Themes or agreed upon visions for Parks and Recreation]
>> ALL RIGHT. AS EVERYONE HEARD THERE'S GOING TO BE REWRIGHT OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
AND AT SOME POINT WE ARE GOING TO BE ASKED TO EITHER COMMENT, ADD SOME INFORMATION OR OUR OWN IDEAS ON GOAL SIX RECREATION AND OPEN SPACE ELEMENT. WE ARE OUT OF TIME AS FAR AS OUR MEETING BEING AN HOUR AND A HALF.
HOWEVER, I WOULD LIKE TO GO OVER A FEW THINGS THAT WE MAY WANT TO THINK ABOUT. ONE, HOW DO WE WANT TO TACKLE IT? DO WE WANT TO HAVE SUBCOMMITTEES? DO WE WANT TO HAVE THE WHOLE GROUP WORK ON IT AND SIT IN THE MIDDLE OF THE ROOM AND WORK ON IT? OR --
>> I LIKE THE IDEA OF SUBCOMMITTEE.
AND I WOULD LOW TO BE ON IT. >> ALL RIGHT.
>> ANY OTHER SUGGESTIONS? >> DO WE KNOW WHEN THIS WILL BE
BUT I DO KNOW THAT THERE ARE VARIOUS GROUPS THAT HAVE ALREADY STARTED WORKING ON IT. AND AS LONG AS WE ARE ABLE TO GET OUR TWO CENTS WORTH IN. WE NEED TO DO THAT.
WE HAVE TO TAKE THE TIME IF WE WANT TO MAKE AN IMPACT AND WANT IT TO BE WHAT WE WANT. WE HAVE TO DO IT.
AT THE NEXT MEETING, THERE MAY BE SOME THOUGHTS -- THERE'S A SLIDE THAT I HAD ABOUT THE COASTAL ELEMENT.
ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I TALKED TO NAN ABOUT ATLANTIC REC CENTER IS LOCATED IN THE SPECIAL HAZARD NOT ZONE.
I SAW IT IN THE BUDGET THAT THERE'S GOING TO BE RENOVATION OF THE AUDITORIUM AND THAT IT'S GOING TO BE TORN DOWN AND EXPANDED OR SOMETHING HAPPENING WITH IT FOR AN EXPANSION OF THE AUDITORIUM. I THINK THERE'S SOME RULES AND REGULATIONS ABOUT WHAT YOU CAN DO IN SPECIAL HAZARD FLOODPLAIN.
I ASKED HER TO CHECK INTO THAT WITH THE FLOODPLAIN MANAGER AND THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT. BECAUSE THERE MAY BE SOME ISSUE WITH TRYING TO DO THAT. I JUST WANT TO POINT OUT THAT THERE'S A FLORIDA STATE STATUTE FOR THE COASTAL MANAGEMENT ELEMENT AND THEY ARE LIMITING -- THEY WANT YOU TO LIMIT EXPENDITURES IN AREAS THAT ARE SUBJECT TO DESTRUCTION BY NATURAL DISASTER. THEY GO ON TO TALK ABOUT THE SPECIAL HAZARD FLOOD AREAS. IT'S ONE OF THOSE THINGS IF WE DON'T KNOW WHICH FACILITIES ARE IN THE FLOOD ZONE, THEN IT'S REALLY HARD TO PLAN FOR THOSE. SO I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S ANY WAY WE CAN GET A LIST OF THE FACILITIES AND WHERE THEY ARE LOCATED. IF THEY ARE IN FLOODPLAIN.
>> OF COURSE. >> ISN'T THE CEMETERY IN THE
FLOODPLAIN? >> ONLY PART OF IT.
>> ONLY PART. >> FOR THE NEXT MEETING, IF WE COULD LOOK AT ANY TYPES OF THEMES THAT YOU WANT TO BE PUT INTO THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, LIKE I HAVE A FEW.
I WOULD LIKE TO SEE A STATEMENT ABOUT OUR PARK SYSTEM.
AND OUR CITY BEING ACTUALLY BUILT OUT.
AND TRYING TO PUT HALF ACRE PARCELS IN EVERYONE'S NEIGHBORHOOD PROBABLY NOT A REASONABLE THING FOR US.
SO HOW ARE WE GOING TO ADDRESS THAT? BECAUSE IT SAYS IN OUR PARK PLAN, THAT WE ARE TO HAVE A NEIGHBORHOOD PARK EVERY HALF MILE.
WITHIN HALF MILE WALKING DISTANCE.
THAT'S PROBABLY SOMETHING THAT WE WILL HAVE TO CHANGE.
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I GUESS IF NO ONE HAS ANY OBJECTION?>> JUST TO CLARIFY. THERE ISN'T -- THERE'S NO MONEY BUDGETED RIGHT NOW TO DO ANY EXPANSION OF THE AUDITORIUM.
>> MAYBE ON THAT FIVE YEAR CAPITAL PLAN.
OBVIOUSLY THAT STUFF CAN CHANGE. AND BUT JUST TO CLARIFY THERE'S NO MONEY BUDGETED TO DO EXPANSION ON THE AUDITORIUM.
>> SO ARE WE ALL GOOD WITH THE SUBCOMMITTEE FOR THE COMP PLAN?
>> LET'S -- I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE SOMETIME TO THINK ABOUT THAT.
WHY DON'T WE PUT THAT BACK ON THE AGENDA FOR THE NEXT MEETING.
>> ALL RIGHT. >> AND I KNOW I WENT DOWN THE COMP PLAN AND GOAL SIX AND JUST PUT LIKE PLUSES AND MINUSES NEXT TO THE ITEMS JUST TO FIGURE OUT WHAT I WAS IN AGREEMENT WITH AND WHAT I DIDN'T LIKE WANT TO HAVE HAPPEN.
>> ALSO THERE'S BEEN A VOLUNTEER GROUP GOING OVER THE ENTIRE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND I'M FAMILIAR WITH THAT -- THAT WORK.
I'M PART OF IT. AND THEREFORE I THINK I COULD ADD VALUE AS CAN YOU. ANY DISCUSSION WHETHER IT'S A SUBCOMMITTEE OR NOT. WE DON'T WANT TO REINVENT THE
>> ALL RIGHT. ANY OTHER ITEMS?
>> THE ONLY OTHER ITEM IS IF WE SHOULD BE ALSO ON OUR LIST OF THINGS WITH COMMISSIONER ASKED US TO PROVIDE INPUT ON THE PROCESS OF NAMING OUR STREETS THAT WE COULD PROVIDE WE WANTED TO PROVIDE FEEDBACK ON THAT. I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S
SOMETHING -- >> CAN I ADD SOMETHING TO THAT.
[LAUGHTER] >> IT AIN'T OVER UNTIL I WILL OVER. IF YOU RECALL THE LAST MEETING, WHEN THIS CAME UP IT WAS INDICATED THAT THERE WAS WORK BEING DONE WITH THE CITY MANAGER.
THERE'S NOT. NOT EVEN ON HIS RADAR.
AND THE REASON I'M TELLING YOU THAT SIMMONS ROAD PARK IS WELL ON ITS WAY AND THE PRESSURE TO NAME THAT PARK WILL BE HONEST US BEFORE YOU KNOW IT AND, AGAIN, THE CITY COMMISSION WILL SIT WHERE YOU ARE SITTING AND GO, WELL, WHAT'S OUR PROCESS FOR DETERMINING THE NAME OF THIS PARK? AND THE ANSWER WILL BE OUR BEST INTENTIONS.
OKAY. I WOULD RECOMMEND AS YOUR LIAISON THAT YOU BEGIN THIS WORK.
BECAUSE IT'S NOT BEING DONE BY THE CITY ADMINISTRATION.
THANK YOU. >> TO ADD TO THAT, MAYBE WE COULD MAKE A RECOMMENDATION TO THE CITY COMMISSION THAT THERE IS A -- WHAT WOULD BE THE CORRECT WORD, MORATORIUM ON NAMING ANY FACILITIES UNTIL THE PRAK BOARD CAN COME UP WITH A PROCESS, POLICIES, TO GIVE THEM SOME TIME POSSIBLY.
>> CAN WE MAKE A MOTION. >> COULD I HAVE A MOTION PLEASE.
>> I MOVE THAT THE CITY COMMISSION ADOPT A MORATORIUM ON NAMING OF CITY FACILITIES UNTIL WE'VE HAD A CHANCE TO LOOK AT
IT. >> UNTIL PRAK CAN MAKE A RECOMMENDATION ON THE PROCESS AND POLICIES.
>> RIGHT. >> SECOND THE MOTION.
>> THANK YOU. ANYTHING ELSE FOR THE GOOD OF
THE ORDER? >> NO.
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