Nov 04, 2020 Regular Meeting

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DANCE WE WILL CALL TO ORDER THIS TIME THE CITY OF FERNANDINA REGULAR MEETING.

TODAY IS NOVEMBER 4, 2020 ENTITIES SIX VAMPIRIC SIX VAMPIRIC MADAME CLERK AND YOU

CALLED THE ROLL. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH AND IF WE COULD ALL RISE FOR THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE. PLEASE REMAIN STANDING FOR THE INVOCATION BY BISHOP DR. DUANE

CAMPBELL OF ELM STREET CHURCH OF GOD. >> I PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA. INTO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD INDIVISIBLE WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.

>> DEAR WISE AND ETERNAL GOD. THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING US TO GATHER TONIGHT.

WE SEEK YOUR GUIDANCE AND INSIGHT AS WE DISCUSS THOSE THINGS THAT WILL AFFECT OUR COMMUNITY. WE PRAY YOU WILL GRACE US WITH YOUR PRESENCE WHICH WOULD BE PLEASING IN YOUR SIGHT, THAT WHICH WOULD HELP THE COMMUNITY TO EXCEL.

WE ASK THAT YOU WILL GUIDE US IN THE AGENDA THAT WE CAN DISCUSS THE AGENDA IN A WAY THAT WILL BENEFIT THE COMMUNITY. WE ASK THAT YOU WILL BE IN THE MIDST OF US.

WE PRAY FOR THE MAYOR AND EVERYONE HERE TONIGHT. WE PRAY THAT WHATEVER IS DONE WILL BE DONE TO YOUR GLORY AND HONOR. WE THANK YOU, AMEN.

>> THE WE HAVE MADE DOG OF THE MONTH. DID ANYONE SEE A DOG OUT FRONT NO OKAY. I WANT TO WELCOME SOME CANDIDATES.

MR. STURGIS CONGRATULATIONS. MS. MINSHEW WELCOME. ANY ELECTED OFFICIALS OR CANDIDATES THAT I MISSED? AND GREAT. MR. MARTIN WILL YOU INTRODUCE

THE NEWEST MEMBER OF THE STAFF? >> SOME OF YOU MAY HAVE MET HIM HE GOES BY CHARLIE.

HE IS THE NEWLY APPOINTED CITY ENGINEER. HE LOOKS FORWARD TO WORKING WITH US. WE DO HAVE SOME PROJECTS. AND COMMISSIONER GEORGE IS HERE TO PROVIDE HIS EXPERTISE. SO THANK YOU. WELCOME SIR.

[4.2 PROCLAMATION - RETIREMENT OF MR. JOHN MANDRICK]

>> SO WE HAVE A COUPLE OF PROCLAMATIONS TONIGHT. THE FIRST ONE IS BITTERSWEET.

WILL YOU JOIN ME UPFRONT FOR YOUR RETIREMENT, SIR. >> THIS IS UP.

I LIKE TO SEE YOU GOING BUT I HATE TO SEE YOU LEAD. THIS IS A HUGE HIT.

>> ARE YOU GOING TO GO FISHING? >> I'M GONNA DO ALL KINDS OF STUFF.

>> IT IS A GREAT HONOR THAT THE CITY OF FERNANDINA RECOGNIZES HIS RETIREMENT FOR HIS SERVICE AS THE UTILITY DIRECTOR. WHERE HE BEGAN HIS CAREER IN 2003 AND SERVED THE CITY WITH PROFESSIONALISM AND INTEGRITY. AND WHERE HE IS QUALIFIED HE IS A PROFESSIONAL ENGINEER WITH A CAREER IN PUBLIC UTILITIES THAT SPANS OVER 30 YEARS. WHEREAS HE FAITHFULLY FULFILLED HIS ROLE AND RESPONSIBILITY AS THE DIRECTOR FREQUENTLY GOING ABOVE AND BEYOND TO ASSURE THE TASKS WERE COMPLETED WITH ATTENTION TO DETAIL. UTILITY SYSTEMS THAT WERE MAINTAINED AND EXPANDED. HE SAVED US A LOT OF MONEY. THE SINCERE AND CONTENTIONS EFFORTS HE DEMONSTRATED ON THE JOB DURING HIS 17 YEARS AND SEVEN MONTHS OF DEDICATED SERVICE HAVE BENEFITED THE CITY OF FERNANDINA BEACH. BUT NONE MORE SO THAN THE UTILITIES DEPARTMENT. NOW ON BEHALF OF FERNANDINA BEACH, WE APPRECIATE YOUR LOYAL EFFORTS DURING YOUR TENURE OF SERVICE. A COPY OF THIS PROCLAMATION IS A PERMANENT MATTER OF RECORD AND A TESTIMONIAL OF OUR SINCERE THANKS TO YOU.

CONGRATULATIONS. I ALSO WANT TO PRESENT YOU WITH THIS BLACKBEARD IN HONOR OF YOUR

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>> I WILL MAKE IT SHORT AND SWEET. >> THAT WILL BE A FIRST.

>> IT IS DEFINITELY BITTERSWEET. MAYOR, COMMISSIONERS, PUBLIC. HAS BEEN A PRIVILEGE TO SERVE.

I'M JUST VERY GRATEFUL. NOT MOVING I'M STAYING RIGHT HERE, I LOVE THIS PLACE.

I HAVE THREE GRANDCHILDREN WHIP ME TONIGHT. I HAVE SEVEN OF THEM.

THREE LIVE ON THE ISLAND ON THE OTHER IN SAVANNAH. MY SON AND HIS WIFE ARE HERE WITH MY WIFE. I HAVEN'T GREAT RETIREMENT HERE ON THE ISLAND.

I CAN JOIN A LOT OF OTHER PEOPLE HAVE RETIRED AND LIVE HERE. IT WILL BE A CHANGE FOR ME.

I WILL GET TO CALL AND ASK FOR HELP. THEY WILL BE INTERESTING.

I DO APPRECIATE THEIR SPIRIT. I APPRECIATE THIS. THIS CAME REALLY FAST.

AND I AM PROUD OF ALL OF THE WORK MYSELF AS DONE. THE PLACE IS BETTER THAN I FOUND IT. I MOVED HERE IN 1998. THE WATER SYSTEM AND SEWER SYSTEM SHOULD BE SET FOR THE NEXT 50 YEARS AND I AM PROUD OF THAT.

I AM PROUD OF MY STAFF. THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY AND THANK YOU FOR THE CONFIDENCE

YOU HAVE IN ME. >> I WANT THE COMMISSIONER TO SAY A FEW WORDS.

>> BE NICE. I'LL START WITH THE VICE MAYOR. >> I WORKED WITH JOHN FOR 12 YEARS NOW. WE DID THE ENERGY STUDY. JOHN IS A REALLY SMART AND PROFESSIONAL MAN. HE DOES A GREAT JOB. I'M CONCERNED THAT YOU ARE

LEAVING. >> I TOURED THE WATER FACILITY WITH MY WIFE AND AS THE MAYOR ALLUDED TO, JOHN CAN TALK. BUT WHAT WAS IMPRESSIVE IS THE DEPTH OF KNOWLEDGE ABOUT WHAT HE DOES. WE WERE PEPPERING HIM WITH QUESTIONS, AND HE TOOK US NOT ONE LAYER DOWN BEFORE LAYERS SOUND. I CAME AWAY WITH BEING SO IMPRESSED WITH THE WAY HE HANDLED THE CRISIS. THIS WAS JUST ABOVE AND BEYOND.

IT WASN'T ONLY HIS LEADERSHIP. IT WAS HOW THE STAFF RESPONDED. JOHN IS ALSO AN INNOVATOR IN THE SOLAR PANEL BUSINESS. HE THOUGHT OUTSIDE OF THE BOX. BUT HAVE A GREAT RETIREMENT.

>> WHEN A MAJOR STORM COMES AND YOU LOSE POWER AND WE THINK WE SHOULD NOT TAKE IT FOR GRANTED BUT THROUGH EVERY STORM THE WATER RAN IN THE TOILET WITH FLUSH.

THAT IS SOMETHING, THAT I THINK WE ALL TAKE FOR GRANTED BUT A LOT OF IT HAS TO DO WITH JOHN'S EFFORTS. HE BUILT A SYSTEM THAT, I GUESS NO MATTER WHAT STORM, WE WILL

DRINK AND FLUSH. FOR THAT I SAY THANK YOU. >> I HAVE NO WORDS, JOHN.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE. >> I WAS GOING TO SAY, IS NOT ONLY THE INFRASTRUCTURE WHAT YOUR TEAM. MY FAVORITE STORY IS WHEN WE TALKED ABOUT A BUDGET ITEM AND IT COMES UP FOR BID AND IT COMES UP MORE AND YOU EXPLAIN WHY. I KNOW YOU WILL SAY WHY IN THE

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I ASKED WHY AND HE SAID SO YOU CAN RESTORE WATER. AND WE SAID WE DIDN'T LOSE DRINKING WATER. HE SAID DURING THE HURRICANE YOU GET SHUT UP AND DOWN AND YOU HAVE TO BOIL THE WATER. I SAID SIR, WE NEVER LOST WATER. HE WAS AMAZED.

AND THAT IS A TRIBUTE TO YOU AND YOUR STAFF. ENJOY YOUR RETIREMENT.

I WILL SEE YOU AROUND. YOU KNOW WHERE I WORK. CONGRATULATIONS.

>> THANKS AGAIN. >> OKAY, NOW WE HAVE THE GENERAL FEDERATION OF THE WOMEN'S CLUB

[4.3 PROCLAMATION - GENERAL FEDERATION OF WOMEN’S CLUB OF FERNANDINA BEACH ]

JOINING US. >> THIS IS NEAR AND DEAR TO MY HEART.

MY DAUGHTER WAS IN THIS FOR SOME YEARS. SHE REALLY AND DUTCH AUCTION REALLY ENJOYED IT. MY MOTHER WAS IN THE JUNIOR CLUB.

THEN THEY DID THE SAME THING TO HER. IT LOOKS LIKE THE SAME PICTURE MY DAUGHTER TOOK. CONGRATULATIONS ON THIS. THE PROCLAMATION.

IN 1890 THE WOMEN'S CLUB THE GF WC, INTERNATIONAL WOMEN'S ORGANIZATION DEDICATED TO THE COMMUNITY AND ENHANCING THE LIFE OF OTHERS THROUGH VOLUNTARY SERVICES.

THE WOMEN'S CLUB IS AN AFFILIATED MEMBER OF THE GF WC AND WORKS FOR MANY LEGISLATIONS INCLUDING WOMEN'S RIGHT TO VOTE AND VIOLENCE AGAINST WOMEN'S ACT.

IN 1920, THEY MET TO ORGANIZE WHAT IS NOW KNOWN AS THE WOMEN'S CLOTHES OF FERNANDINA BEACH.

THEY ENHANCE THE CITY BY PROMOTING ARTS AND CULTURE, PUBLIC OUTREACH, OUTREACH, AND HEALTH AND WELLNESS. WHEREAS THE GF WC WOMEN'S CLUB BEGAN WITH A SMALL PROJECT PROVIDING BOOKS TO PUBLIC SCHOOLS, WHICH BLOSSOMED INTO THE PUBLIC LIBRARY.

I DID NOT KNOW THAT. WHERE'S DURING THE HISTORY THE WOMEN'S CLUB HAVE ADDRESSED NATIONAL EMERGENCIES BY IMPLEMENTING MANY CLINICS. THEY HAVE A CLUB FOR PEOPLE THAT THEY MENTOR AND VOLUNTEERISM. THEY PROVIDE SCHOLARSHIPS TO SENIORS AND SUPPORT MANY ORGANIZATIONS INCLUDING THE SALVATION ARMY, THOUGH PILES, THE ANGEL TREE PROGRAM AND THE MENTALLY ILL IN NASSAU. THEY ALSO COLLABORATE WITH THE YOUTH LEADERSHIP.

WHEREAS IT BEGAN 100 YEARS AGO, THE CLUBHOUSE, AND THE AWARD-WINNING WOMEN'S CLUB, SHOWCASED DECADES OF THEIR ACCOMPLISHMENTS AND CONDUCT MANY ORGANIZATIONS AND FUNDRAISING EVENTS UNDER THE MISSION TO SERVE THE INTERESTS OF ITS MEMBERS.

AND TO PROMOTE SPIRIT IN THE COMMUNITY. NOW THEREFORE WITH THE POWER VESTED IN ME THROUGH MY POWER, I RECOGNIZE, AND CELEBRATE 100 YEARS OF COMMITMENT TO OUR CITY AND WITH GRATITUDE AND THANKS THAT WE ALLOW THE WOMEN'S CLUB TO BE HERE.

CONGRATULATIONS. >> THERE YOU ARE. >> WE ARE LUCKY.

>> CAN I SAY A FEW WORDS. >> WE WANT TO TAKE THIS OPPORTUNITY TO THANK YOU FOR THIS GREAT HONOR. WE ARE APPRECIATIVE AND TO EXTEND AND INVITATION TO OUR

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FOR THE HONOR. >> NOW WE HAVE A PRESENTATION FROM THE MARINE LIFE

[4.4 PRESENTATION - AMELIA ISLAND BEACH AND MARINE LIFE CONSERVANCY BEACH AMBASSADORS ]

AMBASSADORS. >> I AM DAVE FRANCIS. I AM THE COCHAIR OF THE MILLION ISLAND BEACH AND VEREEN -- VEREEN LIFE CONSERVANCY BEACH BUKE.

MOVING ON TO NEW ENDEAVORS. I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR YOUR POPULATION FOR US IN APRIL FOR

RECOGNIZING OUR EFFORTS. >> THERE'S A LOT OF TRASH THAT WE RETRIEVE.

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WHEN YOU THINK OF THIS, IF I COULD COME. >> IF WE TOOK THE BUCKETS THAT WE COLLECTED AND WE LINED THEM UP, ONE AT A TIME AND DUMP THEM BACK INTO THE OCEAN, 800 BUCKETS

OF TRASH. >> THE NEXT LIGHT. WHAT WE TRY TO PROHIBIT IS BAD.

THESE ARE THE PICTURES THAT SHOW WHA HAPPENS WHEN IT'S NOT RECOVERED.

AS YOU CAN SEE. THE NEXT ONE PLEASE. IT IS ALL KINDS OF THINGS THAT HAVE BEEN RECOVERED BY GROUPS AS WELL AS US IN OUR EFFORTS TO SECURE FERNANDINA BEACH.

OUR GOAL IS TO PROTECT MARINE ENVIRONMENT. WE LIKE TO FIND A SUSTAINABLE SOLUTION TO DO THIS. WE HAVE A LOT OF BEACH HERE. WE HAVE A LOT OF GUESTS AND WE HAVE A LOT OF ACTIVITY. THIS IS AN EFFORT THAT WE FEEL IS WORTHWHILE.

WE INVITE PEOPLE TO JOIN OUR ORGANIZATION AND WE INVITE PEOPLE TO LOOK AT OUR WEBSITE.

WE INVITE PEOPLE TO LOOK AT OUR FACEBOOK. WE ARE HAPPY BECAUSE ONE OF OUR ACTIVE VOLUNTEERS AND MEMBERS, DAVE WILL TELL YOU MORE ABOUT THE VOLUNTEER EFFORTS.

THAT VOLUNTEER EFFORTS THAT HE HAD HIS WIFE PARTICIPATED IN OVER THE SUMMER.

>> THANK YOU, CHARLIE. >> GOOD EVENING LADIES AND GENTLEMEN.

I GOT ROPED INTO BEING AN AMBASSADOR. THIS IS AN INTRA- TESTING -- INTERESTING THING, I THOUGHT, WHY NOT SPEND AN HOUR. THE WORST THING IS HAVING A GOOD TIME WITH MY WIFE AND KIDS SO WE CAN ENJOY THE VIEW. I THOUGHT HOW MUCH TRASH COULD BE ON THE BEACH EVERY EVENING. WE HAD OUR SCHEDULED TIME AND I DID THE PROGRAM.

I HAD NO INTENTION OTHER THAN HAVING A GOOD TIME. BUT WHAT WE FOUND OUT AFTER WE SPENT THE TIME, THERE IS A LOT OF TRASH ON THE BEACH. AND WE ALMOST MADE IT LIKE A SCAVENGER HUNT. OVER CHILDREN ENJOYED IT. THEY WOULD ACTUALLY LOOK FOR THE CIGARETTE BUTTS. THE WORST THING TO SEE ON THE BEACH, IS A STYROFOAM COOLER THAT IS BROKEN UP OR ANYTHING THAT INVOLVES STYROFOAM SPIRIT THAT WILL TAKE YOU OUT.

SOME EVENINGS WE WOULD GO THROUGH AND IT WOULD BE A WALK IN THE LOWER SECTION.

THAT IS THE MOST IMPORTANT SECTION WITH THE SEA TURTLES, THE BIRDS AND ALL OF THE OTHER

THINGS. >> IN THE INN WE REALLY ENJOYED IT.

WE REALLY LOVED IT AND WE WILL KEEP DOING IT. MY WIFE THOUGHT, I ACTUALLY GOT YOU TO DO SOMETHING BESIDES WORK ON THE BOAT IT ENDS UP BEING A GOOD FAMILY TIME.

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WE FELT BETTER AFTERWARDS. WE DON'T HAVE TO GO TO CHURCH TO FEEL GOOD, SOMETIMES WE CAN GO

SPEND IT WITH MOTHER NATURE. >> >> I HAVE BEEN IN THE BEACH AMBASSADORS FOR A FEW YEARS. THERE IS NOTHING LIKE SPENDING AN AFTERNOON WALKING ON THE BEACH. HOW TOUGH IS THAT. BUT IT IS AMAZING.

THE BEST EXPERIENCE IS WHEN YOU ARE OUT THERE AND YOU ARE PICKING UP TRASH, AND THERE WILL BE A FAMILY WITH A GROUP OF KIDS AND THE KIDS WILL JOIN YOU. THEY WILL SAY WHAT ARE YOU DOING. AND YOU SAY WE ARE PROTECTING THE BIRDS AND THE TURTLES AND LET THE OFFENSE. THEN THEY SAY LET US HELP AND YOU GET MORE STUFF.

IT IS A GREAT ORGANIZATION THANK YOU SO MUCH. I URGE EVERYONE TO PARTICIPATE.

[4.5 PRESENTATION - WATERFRONT COMMUNITY HUB]

>> OKAY, A PRESENTATION OF THE WATERFRONT COMMUNITY HUB AND I BELIEVE THERE ARE TWO PEOPLE

HERE. >> I BELIEVE THEY ARE HERE. >> ALL RIGHTS.

MAYOR AND COMMISSIONERS THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING US TO JOIN YOU AGAIN.

THANK YOU FOR HOSTING US. WE HAVE BEEN ABLE TO DO IN THE LAST MONTH IS REALLY ENGAGED WITH THE COMMUNITY THROUGH THIS PLATFORM AND OTHERS TO MAKE SURE WE COULD REALLY GET A HOLES AND FEEDBACK. SO DO YOU HAVE ANY INITIAL WORDS BEFORE I JUMP INTO THE

PRESENTATION OF THE FEEDBACK CRACKS. >> MY NAME IS JEREMY I AM THE PRINCIPAL ON THIS ONE. AND WE'D LOVE YOUR CITY AND WE ARE EXCITED TO WORK ON THESE PROJECTS. WITHOUT FURTHER ADO, I WANT TO SHARE MY SCREEN SO I CAN WALK EVERYONE THROUGH THE FEEDBACK THAT WE RECEIVE. AND LET ME START OUT BY JUST GIVING MY THANKS TO THE COMMUNITY FOR BEING SO ENGAGED WITH US THROUGH THIS PROCESS.

AND TO REMIND EVERYONE THE PROCESS WE ARE GOING THROUGH, WE STARTED WITH THIS PROJECT BACK IN NOVEMBER WITH A KICKOFF. THEN WE DEVELOPED THE CONCEPT AT THE END OF LAST YEAR, WE WENT THROUGH THE PRESENTATION ON JANUARY, SO JANUARY 28 IN PARTICULAR.

THERE WAS AN AGREEMENT ABOUT CONCEPT E. THE COMMITTEE RECEIVED FEEDBACK IN THE SPRING. WE DEVELOP AN INITIAL MASTER PLAN IN THE SUMMER.

IT REALLY BUILT UPON THE ORIGINAL CONCEPTS AND END SEPTEMBER AND OCTOBER, WE HAD THE COMMUNITY HUB. THIS IS WHAT THE WEBSITE PLATFORM LOOK LIKE.

IT IS STILL QUIET. YOU CAN FIND IT ON THE WEBSITE. YOU CAN GO THERE TO SEE THE FINAL PRESENTATION. YOU CAN SEE THE OTHER MEETINGS WE HAD.

THE YOUTUBE LINKS ARE ON THERE NOW. WE WILL ALSO PUT UP THE DOCUMENTS WE WILL SHARE THIS EVENING. SO WE HAD TWO DIFFERENT VIRTUAL HUB MEETINGS. ONE OF THE 28TH OF SEPTEMBER AND ONE ON THE 12TH OF OCTOBER. AND WE HAD MORE IT GOES TO THE SITE AND THIS WAS A PERIOD OPEN FOR PUBLIC FEEDBACK. ALSO IT'S INTERESTING TO SEE HOW THE PEOPLE WERE ENGAGING WITH THE SITE PRIMARILY THROUGH MOBILE AND YOU CAN SEE THE IMPORTANCE OF FACEBOOK IN TERMS

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THEN WE HAD VISITS FROM ACROSS THE STATE, MOSTLY CONCENTRATED AROUND FERNANDINA.

OF THE 1400 VISITS FROM THE STATE OF FLORIDA, YOU CAN SEE THAT FERNANDINA WAS AT THE TOP.

AND HAVING PEOPLE ACCESS THIS FROM THEIR MOBILE PHONE, WE MADE IT EASY SO YOU COULD ENGAGE AND

YOU CAN IMAGINE GOING OVER DIFFERENT PLACES. >> WE HAD 120 RESPONSES REGARDING THIS AND 143 RELATED TO THE MULTIPURPOSE EVENT LAUNCH.

I THINK IT'S REALLY NEAT TO SEE THAT THE SUNSET OBSERVATION DECK, THE MULTI USE OF IT WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE DIFFERENT RANKINGS WERE RIGHT AROUND TWO-POINT FOR UP TO 2.46.

I THINK IT'S ALSO IMPORTANT TO NOTE, IT DIDN'T GO QUITE AS HI, THE ELEVATED LOOK.

SO WE HAD A SECOND-STORY PIECE AND THE INFORMAL PLAYER, THERE'S A LOT OF QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT.

AND WE WERE CLEAR ABOUT RELOCATING. WE HAD CONVERSATION ABOUT IS THE COST OF A NEW MONUMENT WORTH IT. SO CERTAINLY THE IDEA WAS TO USE THE EXISTING MONUMENT AT THE NEW SIGNING. WHICH IS INTERESTING. IN TERMS OF THE RESPONSE PORTION, OUT OF THE 120 THAT WE RECEIVED. SEVENTY-THREE TOOK THE TIME TO

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HE CAME IN AT THE TOP. MOST WERE GENERALLY IN FAVOR. THERE WERE A NUMBER WHO REALIZED THERE WAS A DIFFERENT AMOUNT. THE NEXT HIGHEST TOPIC WAS PEOPLE WHO WERE BEING POSITIVE AND THE IMPROVED FUNCTIONALITY. AND THIS WHICH RANKS 2.46 OUT OF THREE THEY WERE VERY POSITIVE AND AGAIN, THE TALK WAS TO .06. WE ALSO ASKED FOR THE WALL. AND THIS WAS A SIMILAR SPLIT.

8020. THIS WAS AGAINST THE FUNDING BUT UNDER THE DESIGN COMMENTS, LET'S GO WITH THE BIGGEST ONE IN THIS CASE. THEY WERE COMMENTS ABOUT BIG IMPROVEMENTS AND LOOKING GREAT. THE PARKING WAS THE NEXT PIECE. THE IDEA THAT THERE SHOULD NOT BE A LOSS OF PARKING SO WE WILL CONTINUE TO PUSH AS CLOSE AS POSSIBLE AND THE PLAY AREA, YOU CAN SEE IT DID NOT RANK AS HIGHLY AS THE OTHERS. THERE SHOULD BE A MORE FORMAL PLAY AREA EVEN A SPLASH PAD. OTHERS THOUGHT THIS MAY NOT EVEN BE THE PLACE FOR A PLAY AREA.

THE IDEA WAS IT WOULD BE MORE INFORMAL IN SOME AREAS TO ROLL AROUND IN.

AND THE BANDSHELL CAME IN WITH THE NEXT HIGHEST NUMBER OF COMMENTS.

AND VERY POSITIVE ABOUT IT. MOVING NORTH, WE HAVE 106 RESPONDENT AND 74 RESPONDING.

THE DESIGN, ACTUALLY RANKED HIGHER THAN THE LOCATION AND THE WALKWAYS RANK VERY WELL.

THERE WAS A TRAJECTORY OF A SPLIT, THE TOP FOR COMMENTS HERE ARE WE GOING TO LOSE PARKING.

THERE WERE A GOOD NUMBER OF PEOPLE THAT REALLY APPRECIATED THE FIRST IMPRESSION AND BEING WELCOMING. THE MONUMENT HAD MIXED REVIEWS. THERE WERE SOME THAT WERE ASKING IF THIS WAS THE RIGHT PLACE FOR IT. THIS REALLY STUCK OUT TO ME.

INSTEAD OF ELEVATING, THE CONCERN ABOUT THE HANDRAILS RELATED TO THE ACCESS.

THIS IS IN KEEPING THE SUNSET VIEW AS WELL AS USING THE TREE TO FRAME IT FIRST IT'S TRACK PERSONS BLOCKING IT. FOR THE VETERANS TO SPEND TIME ON THIS THERE WAS COMMENTARY ON THE LOCATION. THERE WERE MIXED REVIEWS ABOUT KEEPING IT ON CENTER OR LOSING IT ELSEWHERE IN THE CITY. MIXED THOUGHTS THAT HAD TO DO WITH ACCESS.

THIS IS WHERE WE HAD ACE 22-88% SPLIT. ON THE NORTHERN FRONT STREET AREA. THE WATERFRONT BOARDWALK WAS THE HIGHEST SCORE ACROSS THE BOARD.

THIS WAS A 13% FUNDING VERSUS 87%. AND WITHIN THE DESIGN COMMENTS IT HAS TO DO A PARKING AGAIN. AND THE CONTINUALLY ESPECIALLY AROUND THIS AREA.

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SO IF YOU TAKE ALL OF THAT DATA AND YOU PUT IT BACK ONTO THE PHASING PLAN.

PHASE ONE BEING THIS PEACH COLOR. A NUMBER OF PIECES THAT WERE WELL REVIEWED IN THE AREA. NOT THE SECOND-STORY. ON THE NORTH SIDE, THE WATERFRONT BOARDWALK ALONG WITH THE DESIGN AND THE WALKWAY IT ALL CAME IN WELL.

WE ALSO HAD A GENERAL COMMENT AREA. WE RECEIVED 70 FOR COMMENTS HERE THE SPLIT WAS 23% AND 77%. THE TOP COMMENT HAD TO DO WITH RESILIENCY.

THE CONTINUED CORPORATION WE WILL DO AT THE IDEA THAT WE NEED TO ADDRESS THE FLOODING IN THE RESILIENCY FIRST. THAT IS PART OF PHASE ONE AS IT HAS BEEN.

IF WE CAN KILL TWO BIRDS WITH ONE STONE. WE CAN TAKE A STEP TOWARDS A GREEN SPACE AND WE ARE ACHIEVING THE FUNDING. I THINK THAT IS A POSITIVE MOMENT. AND 12%, THAT DEAL WITH WHAT I SAY IS SIMPLIFIED.

SIMPLIFY IT MORE. AND ADD MORE OF THE GREEDY NATURE.

AND IT IS A TERM THAT PEOPLE UNDERSTOOD. IN THE PUBLIC MEETINGS IT SHOULD NOT FEEL OVERLY POLISHED. SO, PART OF THAT MAY BE REACTING TO THE GRAPPLING BEING TOO SHARP AND FEELING TO NEW AS OPPOSED TO ALL OF THE PIECES THAT WE ARE INCLUDING IN THE PAVILIONS AND THE OPPORTUNITY TO MOVE THE STORAGE BUILDING INTO THE AREA THAT COULD POTENTIALLY TAKE PLACE. I THINK THERE IS A STEP TO GET MORE AUTHENTICITY.

THE BOATING CAME IN NEXT. THIS CAME IN AS ONE OF THE LARGER COMMENTS AND AGAIN THE IDEA OF THE NATIONAL TOURNAMENT. AND RETAIL ALSO CAME IN FAIRLY HIGH.

IT WAS A MIXTURE OF WANTING RETAIL OR NOT WANTING RETAIL. BUT WE DID A REALLY BIG D DOG.

WE HAD PEOPLE FROM THE CLUB THAT WOULD LOVE TO HAVE A LARGE ELECTION.

WE WANTED TO TALK ABOUT THE FUNDING AND THE BOATS THAT ARE GOING IN THE AREA.

ARE THERE OPPORTUNITIES TO REDUCE THE NUMBER OF FLOODGATES. THIS IS WHERE WE SPENT TIME ON THE AUTHENTICITY. THERE WAS A LOT OF TALK ABOUT IT.

AND COMMENTS ON MAINTENANCE. WE WANTED TO CREATED APART. NOT CREATING AN ISSUE FOR THE CITY. AND WE HAD A CONVERSATION ABOUT COORDINATION WITH FRONT STREET.

SO I SAY ALL OF THAT TO SAY THAT I APPRECIATE YOUR TIME AND YOUR PATIENCE.

I WOULD LIKE TO BOIL THIS DOWN TO FOUR TAKEAWAYS AND THE NEXT STEPS.

THE NEXT ONE IS PHASE ONE, THE SOUTH PORTION DOES HAVE POSITIVE FEEDBACK.

PARTICULARLY ON THE LAWN IN THE BOARDWALK. SO, THAT DOES SEEM TO BE A PEACE THAT THE COMMUNITY IS REALLY RELATING TO. AND JUST AS IMPORTANT THERE IS FUNDING THAT YOU HAVE BEEN ABLE TO ACHIEVE THROUGH GRANTS. SO WHAT I WOULD SUGGEST THAT WE DO AND WE ARE WORKING ON THIS, IS TO BUILD MORE AUTHENTICITY INTO THE PLANTS THAT COULD RESTORE THE WATERFRONT BUILDING, AND WE ARE ALREADY WORKING THROUGH THIS.

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AND WE ARE ALL HERE BRINGING COMMENTS AND QUESTIONS AND CONCERNS.

>> THANK YOU. JEREMY, I WENT THROUGH THE DOCUMENT AS WELL. AND I DID MY ASSESSMENT A LITTLE DIFFERENTLY. I COUNTED THE NAMES. THE PEOPLE WHO SUBMITTED COMMENTS BASED ON THE E-MAIL ADDRESSES. AND THERE WERE A COUPLE OF PEOPLE AS YOU KNOW, THAT COMMENTED, TWO OR THREE TIMES SO I ONLY COUNTED THEIR NAME ONCE RECOGNIZING THEY HAD PARTICIPATED MORE. SO I CAME UP WITH A NUMBER OF 64 PEOPLE WHO IDENTIFIED WITH THIS. AND I DON'T KNOW BUT SO A LITTLE SHY AND THEY SAID DON'T BUILD THE PARK AT ALL. THAT WASN'T THE SOUTH THE CENTER OR THE NORTH.

THEY SAID DON'T DO IT. I FOUND THAT QUITE INTERESTING. BUT AGAIN, THIS IS 64 PEOPLE OF THE CITY OF 12,000. I THINK WE HAVE TO KEEP THAT INCOME TAX -- CONTEXT.

I HOPE FOR MORE PARTICIPATION AND IT IS DIFFICULT. I THINK YOU WOULD AGREE IT'S DIFFICULT FOR, AT LEAST FOR MYSELF TO MAKE DESIGN DECISIONS, BASED ON SUCH A SMALL NUMBER OF PARTICIPANTS. I HAVE MY OWN PERSONAL FEELINGS, I DON'T THINK THOSE SHOULD OVERRIDE THE CITIZENS OF FERNANDINA. I WOULD LIKE MORE IMPACT AND I THINK, ANOTHER ACHILLES' HEEL OF THE SURVEY IS THAT, PEOPLE DID NOT KNOW THE COST OF THE VARIOUS ELEMENTS. SO, IF YOU PRESENT A DESIGN, AND YOU SAY DO YOU LIKE THIS, DO YOU WANT THIS AND THERE IS NO COST, YOU WILL SAY YES, GIVE ME THIS AND THAT.

SO FOR EXAMPLE, WHAT IS THE COST OF THIS. WHAT IS THE COST WHAT IS THE COST OF THE PLAYER. I THINK YOU WOULD'VE GOTTEN A DIFFERENT RESULT, IF PEOPLE KNEW WHAT THE COST OF THE ELEMENTS ARE, WHAT THE COST OF THE SOUTH IS.

WHAT THE COST OF THE PLAZA AND THE COST OF THE NORTH. SO I THINK THE FEEDBACK WOULD HAVE BEEN DIFFERENT. THE SECOND PART THAT SURPRISED ME, SO OUT OF THESE, NOT ENOUGH PARKING AND PARKING CONCERNS. FORTY-TWO OUT OF THE 64 CITED THAT.

AND AGAIN, I THINK THEY WERE COUNTING THE PARKING SPACES ON THE PLAN WHICH IS NOT THE ACTUAL

NUMBER. BUT STILL THAT WAS A CONCERN. >> THE BOARDWALK, GOT ABOUT ONE THIRD POSITIVE COMMENTS AND ABOUT 20% NEGATIVE. AND THEN THE BANDSHELL WAS AS YOU SAID MOSTLY POSITIVE. AND AGAIN, AT THE VETERANS I WAS SURPRISED ABOUT THE NEGATIVE COMMENTS REGARDING THE VETERANS MONUMENT. THAT IS MY OVERALL FEEDBACK.

THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU. >> GO AHEAD.

>> THERE WAS A GOOD POINT. WE DO MASTER PLANNING WORK FOR A NUMBER OF CITIES AND TOWNS, AND

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AND AS YOU GET FURTHER HERE, TO SAY, ARE THERE MEANINGFUL STEPS AND WHAT COULD PHASE 1B.

AND BASICALLY SAYING, IF YOU ARE MOVING IN THIS DIRECTION. THIS IS YOUR ROADMAP.

IT DOESN'T MEAN THE BUDGET DOES NOT MATTER BECAUSE IT MATTERS VERY MUCH.

YOU WANT TO MAKE SURE, ARE WE ADDRESSING THE NEED FOR THE COMMUNITY.

THEN COME BACK WITH THE BUDGET ALONG WITH WHAT WE HAVE HEARD FROM THE COMMUNITY.

HOW CAN WE RECONCILE. HITTING ON THE MOMENT THAT WE ARE AT.

I THINK THAT IS A WISE COMMENT. >> MORE IMPORTANTLY, IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY.

YOU ARE IMPLYING THE FUNDING IS AVAILABLE. MY CONCERN IS THE FUNDING IS NOT AVAILABLE. IF YOU TAKE WHAT THEY WERE GOING TO DO, WE HAVE MONEY IN STATE MONEY. AND A $500 GRANT THAT IS THERE. AND THERE IS ENOUGH IN IMPACT FUNDS. AND WHAT I'M GETTING TO COME IS NOT YOU BUT HOW MUCH DOES THIS COST? I AGREE WITH MY KID IS KID IS A SMALL SAMPLE IN TERMS OF WHAT THE CITY WANTS. WE HAVE DONE A LOT OF SURVEYS AND PEOPLE DO SEEM TO WANT THE PART BUT FUNDING IS THE BIG DEAL. AND THE CITY HAS TO ANSWER THE QUESTIONS. I WILL TALK ABOUT THIS WHEN WE TALK LATER BUT ONCE WE COMMIT TO STABILIZATION IN PHASE ONE, WHICH IS A MUCH HIGHER ELEVATION THAN WHEN YOU MOVE OVER TO PARKING LOT A. WE ARE LOOKING AT LONG-TERM FUNDING.

THE FUNDING IS NOT THERE. YOU KNOW. WE HAVE TO NOTE THE COST.

WHAT IS THE COST AND HOW CAN WE PROCEED WITH THOSE ITEMS WITH THE THREE LITTLE HEARTS.

HOW DO THEY FIT IN, BASED ON WHAT WE CAN FINANCE. >> GENTLEMEN, THANK YOU VERY MUCH, I HAVE BEEN HERE FOR SEVEN YEARS AND I HAVE SEEN THIS PLAN. AND I AGREED THE FUNDING WILL BE A PROBLEM. THAT IS THE WAY THESE THINGS WORK OUT.

BUT WE WANTED FEEDBACK. >> THANK YOU MR. MAYOR. 10 MINUTES PRIOR TO THE MEETING,

[5.1 CONSERVATION / ENVIRONMENT]

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I'M SURE EVERYONE IS NOT READY. SO I WOULD LIKE TO PUT THIS ON THE NEXT AGENDA TO GIVE EVERYONE AN OPPORTUNITY TO READ THE RESPONSE AND THEN WE CAN FULLY DISCUSS IT.

>> IT SOUNDS GOOD. >> ITEM 5.2. THIS IS WATERFRONT DEVELOPMENT.

THIS ITEM IS PLACED ON THE AGENDA AT THE REQUEST OF COMMISSIONER LEDNOVICH.

>> AS WE JUST WENT INTO DETAIL. I THINK WE CAN BYPASS THE TOPIC. THANK YOU.

>> ITEM 5.3 MARINA. THIS ITEM WAS PLACED ON THE AGENDA AT THE REQUEST OF

COMMISSIONER ROSS. >> I THINK WE CAN GET TO THAT LATER.

[5.4 OCEAN HIGHWAY AND PORT AUTHORITY (OHPA) ]

>> ITEM 5.4. O SHIVELY AND PORT AUTHORITY THIS ITEM WAS PLACED ON THE

AGENDA AT THE REQUEST OF COMMISSIONER ROSS. >> NOTHING TO REPORT AT THIS TIME. I THINK AFTER THE NEXT MEETING WE WILL HAVE MORE INFORMATION.

>> I SAW TAMMY NOT OVER THERE. >> ITEM 5.5. COVID-19.

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VICE MAYOR, I'M SORRY I DID NOT SEE YOU. >> LAST FRIDAY I ATTENDED A MEETING WITH DALE, TAMMY, PORTS ATTORNEY, COMMISSIONER FRANKLIN AND IT WAS AN INTERESTING DISCUSSION. YOU GUYS TOLD ME IF I AM WRONG. AFTER THE DISCUSSION, OUR TWO LEGISLATORS WERE UNAWARE THAT THE SUIT WAS FILED. SO AS THE DISCUSSION PROCEEDED, IT WAS MY IMPRESSION WHEN IT WAS OVER THEY INDICATED THAT THEY ACKNOWLEDGED I THOUGHT, THAT THE PAYMENTS DON'T STOP LIKE A HOUSE MORTGAGE. THEY NEEDED TO DISCUSS IT FURTHER. ALSO THEY SEEM TO AGREE THAT THEY COULD WORK OUT AN AGREEMENT WHERE THEY GOT BUILDING PERMITS. THERE WERE A FEW OTHER THINGS. I'M NOT SURE, IF THEY CAN BE PRODUCTIVE BUT IT SEEMS TO BE A GOOD MEETING BUT THERE COULD HAVE BEEN A LOT OF IMPACT ON

THIS COMING TO THE TABLE. >> I SAW COMMISSIONER ROSS REACHED FOR HIS LIGHT.

>> ON CONCERNED ABOUT GETTING TOO FAR INTO IT. JUST TO PUT IT INTO CONTEXT.

MR. MARTIN AND I WERE INVITED TO THIS MEETING, BUT THE LEGISLATIVE DELEGATIONS.

THE REASON WAS BECAUSE AS YOU KNOW ONE OF OUR PRIORITIES WAS TO ASK THAT THE POOR CHARTER BE CHANGED, SECTION 12 SPECIFICALLY THAT BASICALLY, EXEMPT THE PORT AUTHORITY FROM LOCAL LAWS AND REGULATIONS. IT WAS TO FIND OUT WHERE OUT WHERE WE STAND AND TO TALK ABOUT OUR OTHER ISSUES THAT WE HAVE UNDER DISPUTE. THE $50,000 AND THE EXPANSION WHERE THE ATTORNEY SAID THAT WASN'T TOO STRONG OF A WORD. THERE WERE NO PLANS TO EXPAND AND THEY WOULD NOT EXPAND. THEY HAD NO PLANS TO DEMO THE CUSTOMS HOUSE AT ALL.

U.S. CUSTOMS SAID THEY DON'T HAVE SPACE. IN THAT SENSE IT WAS COLLEGIAL.

FROM A LEGAL STANDPOINT THEY SAY IT IS OWED IN LIEU OF TAXES. IT WAS OVER 30 YEARS AGO.

THE PORT ATTORNEY, THE LEGAL POSITION IS THAT IT EXPIRES AFTER 30 YEARS.

THE SAME ARGUMENT HE HAS MADE BEFORE. TO BE CLEAR WE HAVE NOT RESOLVED THE DISPUTE. WE DON'T NEED TO GO TO ANY FORMAL MEDIATION.

WE DO AGREE TO CONTINUE TALKING AND THAT BOTH GOVERNING BOARDS WANT TO WORK TOGETHER AND HAVE TO WORK TOGETHER. I WAS OPTIMISTIC TOO. THE DELEGATION HAS A BETTER IDEA OF WHAT WE ARE ASKING FOR IN TERMS OF CHANGES TO THE POOR CHARTER.

AND THE ATTORNEY DID SAY HE IS CURRENTLY WORKING ON AN AGREEMENT REGARDING BUILDING PERMITS AND BUILDING PERMIT FEES THAT WE CAN, OUTSIDE OF THE CHARTER SO WE DON'T HAVE TO INTERPRET THAT THEY WOULD ALWAYS COME TO THE CITY AND PAY THE FEES.

>> COMMISSIONER ROSS? >> I SEE TWO THINGS. NUMBER ONE, THE GOAL OF THE CONSTITUENTS AND MYSELF FROM DAY ONE HAS BEEN THAT THEY USE OUR FACILITIES AND THEY SHOULD FOLLOW THE SAME RULES AND REGULATIONS AS EVERYONE ELSE. NUMBER TWO, THE NEXT MEETING, ALTHOUGH THEY HAVE MEETINGS LIKE THIS WHICH ARE NOT PUBLIC, WHEN YOU GO TO THEIR MEETING, AND YOU CAN ATTEST TO THIS THEY SAY SOMETHING DIFFERENTLY. SO WE HAVE THESE MEETINGS WHERE EVERYONE BEHAVED NICELY AND THEN WE GO TO THE REAL MEETING AND IT IS DIFFERENT.

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THEY ARE DOING OTHER THINGS THAT ARE NOT FOLLOWING THE RULES AND THAT IS WHAT IT WILL SOUND TWO.

>> I NEED TO KNOW THIS. >> THEY ARE ASKING FDOT FOR MONEY TO BUY MORE LAND.

IT'S OUTSIDE OF THE PORT. IT'S PRETTY CLEAR. THEY APPLIED FOR IT.

THEY ARE SAYING ONE THING AND DOING SOMETHING ELSE. THAT HAS BEEN THEIR CHARACTERISTIC AND IT HAS GONE ON FOR THREE YEARS. I THINK LEDNOVICH WILL SAY THAT.

THERE IS A NEW MEMBER ON THE PORT AUTHORITY AND MAYBE THINGS WILL CHANGE.

THAT IS MY HOPE. SHE IS IN THE ROOM. >> AND TO REITERATE THERE IS ONE

PORT COMMISSIONER AT THIS MEETING. >> SO YES, WE WANT TO BE CORDIAL AND GET ALONG. WE WANT TO WORK TOGETHER. BUT I THINK THE CITY HAS TRIED HARD TO DO THAT. WHEN YOU GO TO THE MEETINGS, IT IS A DIFFERENT STORY WHEN ONE OF THE COMMISSIONERS TAKE THE LETTER, AND THROWS IT AGAINST THE WALL.

IT'S A DIFFERENT STORY WHEN WE GO TO THE MEETING. I ENCOURAGE YOU ALL TO GO TO THE

MEETING. >> ANNOUNCED COVID-19. DO YOU WANT TO GIVE AN UPDATE?

[5.5 COVID-19]

>> I JUST HAD TO SLIDE THIS OVER. AS I ALWAYS DO IT EVERY MEETING WHEN WE ASSESS COVID-19 THAT IS THE LATEST CHART. AND WHAT I WOULD TELL YOU, AFTER I MADE THE SLIDE, I THINK I GOT YESTERDAY'S RESULTS. YESTERDAY WAS 16.

SO YOU CAN SEE THAT IT HAS SETTLED DOWN FOR TWO DAYS AND SPIKED AGAIN.

ESSENTIALLY WHAT THE CHART IS SAYING, YOU CAN SEE THE NATURE. IT IS NOT UNDER CONTROL.

IT SPIKES. WE ARE NOT OUT OF THE WOODS WITH COVID-19.

IT IS HERE AND IT IS SPREADING AS THIS CHART INDICATES. AND EVERYONE KNOWS WHAT IS GOING ON NATIONALLY. 100,000 CASES PER DAY, THE HIGHEST SINCE THE PANDEMIC

BEGAN. >> ON 25.6. LEVELS OF SERVICE.

[5.6 LEVELS OF SERVICE ]

>> I'M LOOKING AT IT NOW. >> YOU HAVE GRAPHICS. >> YOU HAVE PICTURES OF CARS, THIS IS GREAT. I PUT, I PUT THIS ON BECAUSE, WE TALK A LOT ABOUT LEVELS OF

SERVICE AND QUALITY OF LIFE. A CITIZEN WAS CONCERNED,. >> THE MASTER PLAN IS HERE AND

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I WON'T GET INTO THE SCHOOLS BECAUSE THAT IS A SEPARATE ISSUE.

SO HOW DO WE CHECK ON THIS. THE TECHNICAL REVIEW COMMITTEE REVIEWS ALL ZONING AND SUBDIVISION AND DEVELOPMENT ORDERS AND AMENDMENTS. BASICALLY IF YOU CAN'T MEET THESE, THEY WOULDN'T APPROVE IT. BOTH WASTEWATER AND POLICE ARE PART OF THE TECHNICAL REVIEW COMMITTEE. INDIVIDUAL ARE REVIEWED TOO. THE PARKS ARE HARDER.

THEY ARE EVALUATED BECAUSE YOU CAN'T BUILD A PARKING SHINE. THEY ARE EVALUATED OVER TIME.

THEORETICALLY, THE PARK WAS BUILT WITH IMPACT FUNDS. SO, FOR THE POLICE AND FIRE, HOW DO THEY EVALUATE. FOR SMALL THINGS THEY SEE THE REPORT WHERE THE POLICE AND FIRE TELL US WHAT THE THINGS ARE. THEY MAKE A DECISION AND AT SOME POINT THEY WILL SAY WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH PEOPLE AND WE HAVE TO DO SOMETHING. THAT BECOMES A BUDGETARY ISSUE.

MONTHLY BUILDING PERMITS ARE MONITORED. I PUT MUTUAL AID DOWN BECAUSE THAT IS AVAILABLE BUT IT WILL NOT MEET THE STANDARDS. I JUST THOUGHT I WOULD BRING IT UP BECAUSE THESE ARE ALL PRESCRIBED AND DICTATED AND IT'S IMPORTANT THAT PEOPLE KNOW.

WE USE WORDS A LOT WHEN WE TALK ABOUT THE STANDARDS BUT THIS IS HOW THEY ARE ESTABLISHED AND REVIEWED. SO IF THEY COULD MEET THOSE, IN THIS EXAMPLE WE HAVE REDUNDANCY.

SO YOU WILL BE HARD-PRESSED BUT WITH POLICE AND FIRE. I WOULD SAY SOMETIMES THEY CAN BE STRETCHED. THIS CAME UP I THOUGHT I WOULD DO SOMETHING ELSE TOO.

I ACTUALLY GOT THIS ON THE AGENDA SO PEOPLE COULD LOOK AT IT BEFORE THE MEETING.

>> COMMISSIONER ROSS. >> LET ME GO BACK TO THE SLIDE. >> THE NEXT ONE.

OKAY, LET'S TALK ABOUT THIS. WATER. WE HAVE ENOUGH WATER FOR THE ISLAND. THAT WON'T BE A PROBLEM. SOLID WASTE.

WE HAVE THE SEWER. WE CAN TAKE CARE OF 1,000 LOTS. STORM WATER WERE WORKING ON THAT. WATER FACILITIES WE ARE TAKING CARE OF THAT.

WE HAVE GOOD RESPONSE TIME WITH EVERYTHING. THE ONES WE WILL HAVE PROBLEMS WITH IS ON THE NEXT LIFE. IT IS THIS ONE. WE NEED TO GO BACK, IN MY OPINION AND LOOK AT THE MASTER PLAN. THE CITY CANNOT AFFORD, IN THE FUTURE TO PAY FOR THIS. THIS IS TOTALLY UNREALISTIC. WE HAVE SEVEN PARKS NOW AND WE HAVE ANOTHER ONE DOWN AT THE WATERFRONT. AND THIS STANDARD THAT WE HAVE WE CANNOT AFFORD. WE CANNOT AFFORD TO BUILD IT, WE CAN'T AFFORD TO MAINTAIN IT.

AND ONE THING GOING FORWARD THAT WE NEED TO LOOK AT, WE NEED TO LOOK AT THE MASTER PLAN.

I WENT BACK AND READ IT AFTER YOU PUT IT UP THERE. AND WHEN YOU READ THE MASTER PLAN THERE IS NOTHING. WE CANNOT AFFORD IT. AND WE CAN'T WITHIN THE NEXT 10-15 YEARS. WE NEED TO TAKE A LOOK AT, WHETHER THE MASTER PLAN IS

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>> I DON'T DISAGREE. ONE OF THE THINGS WE NEED TO DO IS GO BACK.

>> I AGREE. >> ALL RIGHT. THAT WAS A GREAT POWERPOINT.

[6. PUBLIC COMMENT REGARDING ITEMS NOT ON THE AGENDA OR ITEMS ON THE CONSENT AGENDA]

I'M ASSUMING YOU WILL ADD MUSIC AT SOME POINT. >> PUBLIC COMMENT REGARDING

ITEMS ON THE CONSENT AGENDA. THE FIRST ONE IS MAYOR. >> THIS IS A DIFFERENT ITEM.

>> WELCOME MAYOR. AND DIRECTOR. AND WHATEVER YOU HAVE.

>> I WOULD LIKE TO TAKE THIS OPPORTUNITY TO INTRODUCE YOU TO THE NEW EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR FOR THE MINISTRY PROGRAM. SHE STARTED THIS WEEK. AND I TOOK HER AROUND TOWN TO INTRODUCE HER TO EVERYONE. I'M SURE SHE WILL HAVE TROUBLE WITH THE NAMES.

SHE HAS JOINED US HERE FROM PENNSYLVANIA, WHERE SHE WAS WORKING FOR BOY SCOUTS.

SHE HAS A BACKGROUND IN THE FAMILY BUSINESS SHE RAN. SHE ENDED UP SELLING THE BUSINESS AFTER SOME TIME AND MOVED INTO THE NONPROFIT SECTOR. WE ARE FORTUNATE TO HAVE HER.

AND I WANTED TO GIVE YOU THE OPPORTUNITY TO SEE WHO YOU WILL BE TALKING TO SOON.

SO, I AM SETTING UP MEETINGS WITH EACH OF YOU. I WILL PROBABLY NOT SIT DOWN.

I WANT HER TO TALK TO YOU AND SHE SHOULD BE ABLE TO SAY WHAT SHE SHOULD HEAR FROM YOU.

SO, IF YOU CAN THINK OF SOMETHING WE NEED TO HAVE HER DO, RIGHT AWAY, WOULD SOMEONE

LET ME KNOW. AND I WILL LET YOU DO IT. >> WE THINK ARLENE COVERED IT.

I DO COME FROM PENNSYLVANIA, BUT MY HUSBAND AND I HAVE HAD A PLACE HERE ON AMELIA ISLAND FOR 11 YEARS. SO WE SOLD THAT AND PURCHASED A HOME.

WE ARE THRILLED TO BE HERE FULL-TIME. MY HUSBAND IS IN THE IT FIELD.

I AM REALLY LOOKING FORWARD TO WORKING WITH ALL OF YOU. AND WORKING IN THE CITY TO CONTINUE THE GOOD WORK CONDUCTED HERE. SO I AM ANXIOUS TO GET STARTED.

>> SO FAR EVERYONE HAS BEEN WELCOMING. >> WELCOME.

VERY EXCITED. IT'S NICE TO PUT A FACE TO THE NAME.

>> ALL RIGHT, THAT WAS GOOD. >> WHOSE EXPERT. >> ALL RIGHT, CONSENT AGENDA,

[7. CONSENT AGENDA]

DOES ANYONE HAVE ANYTHING? >> I RECOMMEND APPROVAL. >> A MOTION AND A SECOND PERIOD

WILL YOU CALL THE VOTE. >> OKAY THIS IS A GOOD TIME TO

[8.1 PASSERO WORK ORDER 20-95]

AND I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND PERIOD. >> I ACTUALLY TALKED ABOUT THIS.

THIS IS WHAT WE HAVE TO START DOING AND IT IS AN ELEVATION THAT IS HIGHER.

ONCE WE COMMIT TO THIS, WE ARE COMMITTING TO THE LOWER AREA WHICH IS A SIGNIFICANT FUNDING

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ISSUES THAT WE HAVE TO ADDRESS PRETTY SOON. >> I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND

PERIOD WILL YOU CALL THE VOTE. >> I HAVE ITEM A .2. THE OASIS MARINA CONTRACT.

[8.2 OASIS MARINA CONTRACT]

MANAGER TO NEGOTIATE A CONTRACT. >> IT WAS THE TOP TWO PROPOSALS FOR THE MANAGEMENT.

AND OASIS MARINA CAME IN NUMBER 1. AND WE WERE ABLE TO NEGOTIATE WHAT WE THINK IS A FAVORABLE CONTRACT FOR THE CITY AND MARINA.

I WOULD SAY THE HISTORY IS A TOTAL OF FIVE OR SIX WEEKS. IT WASN'T JUST BOTH CITY MANAGER AND I. WE ASKED OTHERS TO LOOK AT THE CONTRACT AND TO PARTICIPATE AND TALK OVER SOME OF THE OPERATIONAL POINTS. SO, THE CITY MANAGER AND I WERE THERE AND WE DID ASK THEM MARINA ADVISORY BOARD TO REVIEW IT. IT WAS A PUBLIC DOCUMENT.

WE DIDN'T HAVE ANY PUBLIC RECORD REQUEST BUT WE DID HAVE SOME COMMENTS AFTER THE AGENDA WAS PUBLISHED. WE ALSO HAD TAX EXEMPT FINDINGS. SO I SENT THE DRAFT CONTRACT, WHICH STARTED WITH OASIS. THEY SENT ME A DRAFT OF A CONTRACT THEY HAD WITH ANOTHER FACILITY. I TOOK THE ONE WE NEGOTIATED AND WORKED ON TEN YEARS AGO.

WE PUT THOSE TOGETHER AND WE WORK THROUGH ANY ISSUES WE HAD FOR OPERATIONS OR DIFFERENCES.

WE SENT THE DRAFT CONTRACT TO THE CITY'S BOND COUNSEL TO REVIEW IT.

THEY HAD COMMENTS IN THE DRAFT YOU HAVE -- YOU HAVE HERE TONIGHT.

WE ALSO SENT IT TO THE NAVIGATION DISTRICT. WE HAVE SIGNIFICANT GRANT MONEY THAT COME FROM THEM EVERY YEAR. THEY HAVE GRANT ASSURANCES AND REGULATIONS THAT WE HAVE TO ABIDE BY. I ADDED THREE SMALL PARAGRAPHS. I WILL ADDRESS THAT IN A FEW MINUTES. SO WHEN WE FINISHED WITH THAT WE DID GET THE SIGNATURE FOR OASIS AND WE STARTED REVIEWING THE COMMENTS THAT CAME IN. THOSE BASICALLY, SOME OF THE SMALLER ONES I WON'T MENTION BUT THEY FALL INTO A COUPLE OF CATEGORIES WHICH I WILL ADDRESS.

THERE HAS BEEN SOME QUESTIONS AND CONCERNS ABOUT THE RATES AND HOW THE RATES WOULD BE SET FOR RENTALS. FOURTH, MOST IT WASN'T FOR TRANSIENT VOTERS BUT FOR THOSE WHO ARE HERE ON A MONTH TO MONTH BASIS. THOSE RATES ARE REGULATED AND SPECIFICALLY, THEY ARE IN THE CONTRACT AND I DID IT WORD FOR WORD.

THE RATES ARE, ARE SET BY FINES AND THEY HAVE THREE DIFFERENT CRITERIA'S.

I WILL READ THESE FOR THE BENEFIT OF THE PUBLIC. THE RULE REQUIRES THAT USER FEES, SLIP RENT BE THE SAME FOR THE GENERAL PUBLIC FOR ALL OF THE COUNTIES.

THESE AREN'T MEMBERS OF THE FINE. IN OTHER WORDS, THERE CAN BE NO PREFERENTIAL RATES OR DISCOUNTS FOR THE RESIDENTS THAT ARE NOT EXTENDED.

SO WE CANNOT GIVE SPECIAL RATES TO LOCALS OR PEOPLE BECAUSE THEY HAVE BEEN HERE FOR A LONG TIME.

THE SECOND RULE IS THAT THEY ARE IN MARKET COMPARISON. SO NOT NECESSARILY LIKE MIAMI BUT NORTH FLORIDA AND THIS RULE REQUIRES AT LEAST 10% ARE AVAILABLE FOR TRANSIENT.

THAT DOESN'T MEAN WE WILL ONLY HAVE 10%, THAT WILL BE LEFT UP TO OASIS.

WE DISCUSSED WITH EACH OF YOU AND YOU HAVE HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO READ THE CONTRACT.

I THINK THE RATES ARE SET. THERE ARE SOME TIGHT RESTRICTIONS.

THEY CAN'T GET CRAZY EXPENSIVE BECAUSE WE CAN'T GIVE SPECIAL BREAKS TO LOCAL CITIZENS OR PEOPLE THAT HAVE HAD A LONG TENURE. IF THEY DON'T ALREADY HAVE AN TS

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THEY HAVE TO BE WITHIN MARKET. >> THE OTHER IS THE MAINTENANCE SCHEDULE.

PREVENTATIVE MAINTENANCE SO WE KNOW THAT THE MARINA WILL BE UP TO STANDARD.

WE HAVE TALKED TO OASIS ABOUT THIS AND JEREMIAH HAS MET VIRTUALLY ON THE PHONE AND ZOOM WITH THE FOLKS WHO WILL BE HERE AND ARE IN CONTROL OR WILL BE IN CONTROL ABOUT WHAT MAINTENANCE THE CITY DOES AND WHAT THE OPERATOR DOES. I THINK, THEY HAVE GOTTEN THAT AGREED ON. THIS WOULD BE HANDLED BY THE CITY.

THE BOARDS WILL BE REPLACED BY OASIS. FIRE EXTINGUISHERS AND THE THINGS THAT I KNOW COMMISSIONER ROSS POINTED OUT, THAT WERE NEGLECTED, THOSE ARE ALL WITHIN THE MARINA IF THEY GET THIS CONTRACT. NOW REMEMBER, ALL OF THE MONEY EXPENDED AT THE MARINA IS CITY MONEY THAT WE PROVIDE AS PART OF THEIR BUDGET.

THEY ARE NOT TAKING MONEY OUT OF THE CORPORATE CONTRACT TO PAY THE FEES TO SET UP A BUDGET.

THEY WILL SET UP A SCHEDULE. WHEN WE DO THESE CONTRACTS PEOPLE FORGET, AND THEY SAY WHY ARE THEY NOT PAYING FOR IT. WE ARE LITERALLY TAKING THIS. WE HAVE MANAGEMENT COMPANIES TO REPLACE FULL-TIME CITY STAFF. WE PAY THE COST OF THAT OTHER THAN RETIREMENT ACCOUNTS.

WE PAY ALL OF THE COST. THE HOURLY RATES AND THE EMPLOYMENT TAXES EVERYTHING THE CITY PAYS THROUGH THEIR BUDGET. ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT? RETAIL SALES. THERE HAS BEEN QUESTIONS ABOUT RETAIL SALES AND WHO HANDLES THAT. ALL OF THE RETAIL SALES THAT I KNOW OF WILL BE DONE FROM THE DOCUMENTS THAT ARE ALSO FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION. NOT WHERE THEY WILL JUST SELL

T-SHIRTS THE CITY WILL GET A FLAT RATE. >> CAN ASK A QUESTION?

>> GO AHEAD. >> WHEN WE MET ON MONDAY WITH THE CITY MANAGER YOU EXPLAINED TO ME BECAUSE ONE OF THE QUESTIONS BEFORE THE BOARD WAS HOW THE RATE WAS SENT.

YOU EXPLAINED TO ME THAT IT WAS THE AGREEMENT. THAT IT WAS 25%.

THAT IS HOW THEY ARRIVED AT THAT. CORRECT.

EXCEPT DIFFERENT BECAUSE THEY HAVE TWO MEET A MINIMUM AMOUNT OF SALES BEFORE THE CITY GETS 25%. SO THE CITY GETS MONEY ANNUALLY DEPENDING ON WHAT IS HIGHER.

SO THEY HAVE ALWAYS CLAIMED, THAT THEY HAVE NEVER SOLD MORE THAN $2,500 OUT OF THE STORE.

>> NO MINIMUM. SO WE GET 25% OFF OF EVERYTHING. >> DO THEY HAVE A LIQUOR

LICENSE? >> >> YOU KNOW THAT IS A GOOD QUESTION. THE CITY LIKE NONPROFITS GET THESE.

IT MAY BE THE CITY, I DON'T KNOW. >> I DON'T KNOW.

I KNOW NOTHING ABOUT IT. >> BUT I WILL TELL YOU, WE DO HAVE REPRESENTATIVES HERE AND

THEY CAN ANSWER THAT QUESTION. >> THE LAST IS, A BIG ISSUE THAT CAME UP A FEW TIMES.

CONTRACTORS OR VENDORS. I CALLED THEM CONTRACTORS. THAT MAY COME INTO THE MARINA TO FIX A BOAT OR PAINT OR FIX THE BODY OF THE VESSEL. THE QUESTION WAS ASKED, THERE'S NOTHING IN THERE THAT TALK ABOUT WHAT OASIS WILL COLLECT FOR THE PRIVILEGE OF DOING IT.

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IT IS NOT WORTH OUR EFFORT TO PUT IT IN THE CONTRACT BUT THEY WILL EXPLAIN MORE ABOUT THAT.

THAT WAS IT, UNLESS YOU HAVE OTHER QUESTIONS. THOSE WERE THE MAJOR CATEGORIES AND I WILL SAY TO MR. BLANCHARD THERE WERE COMMENTS HE MADE AND HE POINTED OUT SOME TYPOS, A PERIOD MISSING HERE AND THERE. I WILL MAKE THOSE CHANGES BEFORE FRIDAY AND INCLUDE THOSE.

>> THANK YOU. AS WE DISCUSSED ON MONDAY, I ALSO ASKED ABOUT PUMPOUT SPIRIT YOU TALKED ABOUT SUBCONTRACTORS AND WHO GETS THE REVENUE AND YOU SAID IT IS COVERED.

>> THE WAY THAT IT IS WRITTEN TO GET DETAILS AND FROM A LEGAL STANDPOINT I'M FINE WITH THAT WE DEFINE IT AS SLIP RENTALS AND ANY KIND OF FEES THAT THEY COLLECT.

SO FROM THE DOCKS AND THE BIG BOATS THAT MIGHT BE THERE. ALL OF THOSE ARE PART OF GROSS REVENUE. SO I DON'T SAY, GROSS REVENUE IS THIS.

IT'S NOT ANYTHING ELSE. >> WERE TALKING ABOUT THE GOVERNMENT BODY IN THE CITY.

IT SHOULD BE LIMITED TO 20%. NO MORE THAN 20% INTEREST ON THE COMMISSION.

IN FACT ENTRANCING LEAK, I LOOKED AT THIS BEFORE THE MEETING AND THEY SAID THAT DOES NOT COME FROM OUR CONTRACT. SO I'M NOT WILLING TO IT MAY BE SOMETHING, THAT THE NOTE HAS THAT WE HAVE TO INCORPORATE. IN FLORIDA NONE OF YOU ARE ALLOWED TO HAVE AN INTEREST.

I DON'T WANT TO CHALLENGE THEM. JUST IN CASE THE INFORMATION IS BURIED IN A DOCUMENT.

>> ANOTHER QUESTION IS, WILL THEY HAVE AGREEMENTS MADE QUICK STANCH BOTH AGREEMENTS EXPIRE

WHEN THEY LEAVE. I WOULD SAY THE ANSWER IS NO. >> SO THEY NEED TO BE RENEGOTIATED. LET ME SAY THIS. WE DO HAVE AGREEMENTS THAT ARE LISTED IN THE CONTRACT THAT AREN'T LONG-TERM. FOR EXAMPLE, THEY HAVE A FIVE-YEAR LEASE THAT HAS TO BE HONORED. THE RATES AND ALL OF THAT.

IF YOU ARE A RENTER AT THE MARINA YOU WILL HAVE NEW CONTRACTS WITH THE COMPANY.

>> AND YOU SPOKE ABOUT PREVENTATIVE MAINTENANCE AND THE DEFINITION OF WHO'S RESPONSIBLE FOR WHAT, BUT ONE OF THE POINTS WAS A STIPULATION OF WHEN OASIS WOULD PERFORM THEIR PREVENTATIVE MAINTENANCE. WILL THEY DO IT YEARLY. WILL THEY DO IT TWICE PER YEAR OR QUARTERLY. THERE IS NO DEFINITION OF THAT. AND THEY FELT IT NEEDED TO BE DEFINED. AN ACTUAL SCHEDULE. AND THAT HELPS BUT SOMETIMES IT CAN HURT ALSO JUST FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION. I WOULD LEAVE SOME OF THOSE THINGS OPEN BECAUSE WE DO HAVE THE DEFAULT PROVISION. WE PUT THEM ON NOTICE THAT THEY NEED TO CURE IT. WHAT WOULD WE PICK, DO WE HAVE AN EXHAUSTIVE AND I AM NOT TRYING TO BE CUTE. DO WE HAVE AN EXHAUSTIVE THREE-PAGE LIST.

WHAT IF SOMETHING ELSE COMES UP AND THEY SAY IT WAS NOT ON THE LIST.

THAT IS WHAT I FEAR. I WOULD SAY THEY HAVE PERFORMANCE STANDARDS THAT ARE NOT THERE. I DON'T RECALL THE NUMBER. IT TALKS ABOUT HIGH STANDARDS AND HOW WONDERFUL DOUG MARINA WILL BE AND LOOK AND ACT. I WILL LEAVE THAT TO BEING A

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MAINTAINED. SOMETIMES, IT WAS INTENDED. >> I JUST NOTICED ONE THING FROM MR. BLANCHARD ON HIGH-SPEED INTERNET. IT MENTIONS A SYSTEM TO BE PAID FOR BY THE MARINA AND CONSIDERED PART OF OPERATING EXPENSES BUT NO MENTION OF THE VOTERS.

-- VOTERS HOW WAS THAT DEFINED? ARE THE SERVICES SOMETHING THEY WILL PROVIDE.

>> LET'S MOVE ON. I HAVE A FEW MORE. >> PREVENTATIVE MAINTENANCE, I'M

TALKING ABOUT DO YOU NEED THE CITY ATTORNEY. >> PREVENTATIVE MAINTENANCE IS

AN ONGOING THING. >> ALL RIGHT, GO AHEAD. >> MY QUESTION IS, IT'S ABOUT WI-FI. THERE IS NO INDICATION AT OUR LOCATIONS WE TYPICALLY OFFER THE WI-FI AT NO CHARGE. WE CAN OFFER ANOTHER ONE SHOULD WE SAY WE LIKE TO DO THAT AND THAT WOULD FALL INTO THE REVENUE STREAM. I WOULD NEED YOUR NAME AND RECORD. CEO AND FOUNDER. AND YOUR ADDRESS.

>> VICE MAYOR KREGER. I THINK IT IS IMPORTANT, WE NEED TO SAY SOMETHING ABOUT PREVENTATIVE MAINTENANCE. IT MUST BE PERFORMED IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE STANDARDS FOR THE EQUIPMENT. THE REASON I SAY IT IS THEY HAVE SPECIFIC REQUIREMENTS AND WE NEED TO MONITOR THAT. BECAUSE IF WE DON'T, THIS WON'T DO US ANY GOOD.

THIS IS ALL BRAND-NEW STUFF. DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? >> WE DO HAVE PROGRAMS AND I THINK, WE DON'T HAVE IT IN ANY OF OUR CONTRACTS. JUST BECAUSE IT BECOMES -- YOU PUT IT IN A BOX. WE WANT TO MAKE SURE YOU ARE DOING IT.

THEY SAY, YOU TIGHTEN IT EVERY SIX MONTHS. I THINK, WE NEEDED BECAUSE THERE ARE ISSUES. THE CITY WOULD NEED TO SUPPLY US WITH THE INSTRUCTIONS THAT THEY WOULD WANT US TO COMPLY WITH WHICH I THINK WILL BE VERY ERRONEOUS.

>> BUT IF YOU DON'T DO IT THAT IT'S WHEN WE HAVE PROBLEMS. >> UNDERSTOOD.

>> I DON'T CARE. I'M GOOD. >> I'M JUST SAYING IT IS AN

ISSUE. >> COMMISSIONER ROSS. >> MY ONLY OTHER COMMENT IS AND THIS DRIVES ME CRAZY. SECTION FIVE, UNDER SERVICE STANDARDS THEY WILL PROVIDE SERVICE IN ACCORDANCE WITH CUSTOMARY INDUSTRY STANDARDS FOR VISITORS OF THE PROPERTY AND COLLECTIVELY THE PATRIOTS. HOW DO YOU DEFINE THIS? IN OTHER WORDS, MY QUESTION IS, WHAT IS THE DEFINITION OF FIRST-CLASS PROFESSIONAL MANNERS AND HOW DO YOU MEASURE WHETHER

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DELIVERING FIRST-CLASS SERVICE. >> WELL, YOU ARE THE EXPERT HERE ARE THERE MARINAS UP TO PROFESSIONAL STANDARDS. IS THERE A GROUP THAT GIVES A DEFINITION OF MEASURABLE

STANDARDS? >> WE HAVE FIVE DIAMOND REQUIREMENTS THAT WERE REQUIRED IF YOU WERE TO STAY AT ANY HOTEL BECAUSE THE INDUSTRY LACKS THAT KIND OF SERVICE.

>> IS THERE A LIST? >> WE HAVE OUR OWN. WE HAVE SECRET SHOPPERS THAT WE

USE, YES. >> SO SHOULD THIS CONTRACT INCLUDE THAT YOU PROVIDE THE

CITY WITH YOUR MEASUREMENT OF THESE STANDARDS YEARLY. >> WE CAN, BUT TO WHAT END QUICK STANCH TO KNOW YOU ARE PROMISING THIS IN THE CONTRACT. OTHERWISE, IT IS WORD OF MOUTH

OR SUBJECTIVE. >> WE DO CUSTOMER SURVEYS FOR EVERYONE THAT STAYS IN THE VOCATION. SO EVERYONE THAT STAYS WILL GET A CUSTOMER SURVEY THAT THEY WILL

FILL OUT. WE CAN SHARE THE INFORMATION. >> GIVE US SOME MEASURE SO THAT WE ARE KNOW THAT YOU ARE MEETING THE REQUIREMENT. DOES THAT MAKE SENSE?

>> YES. DO YOU GUYS HAVE A LICENSE TO SERVE, DO YOU QUICK STANCH THE

RESTAURANT DOES. >> THAT SEEMS LIKE A BIG ONE. A LOT OF PEOPLE COMING IN.

>> I HAD A LOT OF QUESTIONS AFTER THE MARINA CAME ONLINE ABOUT NEW BUSINESSES COMING HERE. WE HAD DIFFERENT BUSINESSES LIKE THIS.

THERE WAS SOME CONFUSION ABOUT HOW THE PROCESS WOULD WORK. WAS IT FIRST-COME FIRST-SERVED OR DO YOU EVALUATE THE COMPANY ON WHO WILL DO BEST. DO YOU HAVE A PROCESS?

>> NORMALLY, WE LOOK AT WHAT IS THE VISION FOR THE TOWN AND THE CITY.

SO IF WE HAD AN OPERATOR THAT WANTED TO COME IN, AND WE WERE UNSURE HOW IT WOULD FIT WITH THE

CITY, WE WOULD COME BACK TO THIS GROUP AND SHARE. >> THAT IS WHAT HAPPENED LAST TIME. I WAS TRYING TO FACILITATE THE CONVERSATION BUT THEN, THE VENDOR THOUGHT WE WERE THE ONES DOING IT AND HE WAS UPSET THAT SOMEONE ELSE WAS COMING HERE AND WE DID NOT NOTIFY HIM. SO I RECOMMEND SOME FORMAT. AND SAY THIS IS HOW THE PROCESS WORKS. IF IT IS SOMETHING THAT ALREADY EXIST AND YOU CAN EVALUATE IS

THAT TOO MANY. >> SO I THINK IT IS THE AVAILABILITY OF THE SPACES.

WHAT IS THE AVAILABILITY. WILL IT DISPLACE HIGHER PAYING RENT OR MAKE PEOPLE SPEND MORE MONEY WITHIN THE SYSTEM. THOSE ARE THE THINGS THAT WE LOOK AT.

I'M ASKING THIS QUESTION BECAUSE OF THE GENTLEMAN SITTING NEXT ME.

WHEN HE GETS PHONE CALLS HE CAN REFER TO THEM. BECAUSE IT IS CONFUSING TO US

TOO. >> WE KNOW IT WOULD COME THROUGHOUT SPIRIT THE THINGS THAT WE THINK ABOUT ARE NOT JUST ABOUT GETTING ANOTHER ENTITY INTO THE FACILITY.

IT IS UNDERSTANDING THE VISION FOR THE TOWN AND IS IT SOMETHING SUPPORTIVE OF WHAT THE TOWN'S

VISION IS. >> THANK YOU. I DON'T HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS

BUT I DO HAVE A GUEST THAT WANTS TO SPEAK. >> WELCOME SIR.

>> KEVIN MCCARTHY. I LIVE IN FERNANDINA. TAMMY DID A GREAT JOB WITH MOST OF THE COMMENTS. THAT IS WHY I CAME. AND SHE COVERED EVERYTHING IN DETAILS AND ANSWERED MY QUESTIONS TOO. THERE WAS, WON LITTLE ITEM THAT WAS BROUGHT UP AND IT WAS WHERE OASIS WAS ALLOWED TO SUBLEASE. THAT WAS A CONCERN.

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I'M ALSO HERE TONIGHT, AS THE OPERATOR AND OUR CONCERNS WERE THAT WE DO HAVE A LONG-TERM LEASE. AND WE WERE CONCERNED THAT IT COULD CHANGE BUT APPARENTLY, THEY RESPECTED. AND ALSO, THE OUR Q4 THE POTENTIAL ONE DAY WATER TAXI SERVICE. MY NEW INVESTOR GROUP WERE INTERESTED IN HAVING THAT HAPPEN. WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE THOSE ARRANGEMENTS WERE MADE AND I HAD A CONVERSATION AND THEY ARE AWARE OF THAT. SO, ALL OF MY QUESTIONS HAVE BEEN ANSWERED. AND YOU HAVE ADDRESSED THE CONCERNS.

I'M VERY PLEASED WITHOUT IT IS GOING. I AM EXCITED TO SEE A NEW OPERATOR. WE WOULD LIKE TO SEE THE MARINA DO GREAT.

SO THANK YOU. >> MY PLAYER. -- MY PLEASURE.

THIS WENT UNDER MY RADAR SO YOU GUYS ARE STILL ON BOARD. >> HE AND I WORKED A LOT OF

HOURS TOGETHER. >> THEY MAY HAVE CONCERNS BUDGET WISE.

SO I DID ABOUT CONVERSATION WITH SOME OF THE OFFICIALS. AND THE BIG THING IS, THE PARK SERVICE IS REPAIRING THE DOCKS. SO THAT WILL MAKE MORE AVAILABLE.

BUT THAT COULD HAPPEN BY THE FIRST OF THE YEAR. THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THAT.

>> AND THEY PUT A LOT OF WORK INTO IT. SO I DO HAVE A MOTION AND A

SECOND PERIOD. >> PLEASE CALL THE BOAT. >> ALL RIGHT, ITEM A .3.

[8.3 CODE ENFORCEMENT FINE REDUCTION AND RELEASE OF LIEN - DEXTER & REGINA N. RAINEY]

>> THERE IS A STAFF RECOMMENDATION IF YOU HAVEN'T PULLED IT UP ALREADY.

SO, THIS WAS, AGAINST IDLE NEEDED IF YOU DON'T HAVE IT THERE.

THIS IS A REQUEST, WE HAVE AN ORDINANCE THAT RECALLS THE LOCAL GOVERNING BODY, THAT CAN REDUCE LIENS AND AUTHORIZE THE SATISFACTION. SO IN THIS CASE THE PROPERTY OWNERS ASK, WHERE THEY HAD $17,000 OF FINES ACCUMULATE FOR A PICKUP TRUCK.

INOPERABLE IS DEFINED AS NOT WORKING MECHANICALLY AND NOT BEING REGISTERED.

NOT HAVING CURRENT REGISTRATION OR A STICKER WITH YOUR DATE OF BIRTH.

SO, THAT WAS EXPIRED. THEY RECEIVED, THIS ISN'T LIKE WE GOT YOU AND NOW YOU HAVE A LIEN, THIS WAS MONTHS IN THE MAKING. THAT IS HOW THE OFFICERS WERE THERE TO MAKE SURE WE HAD COMPLIANCE. NOT THAT THE CITY COLLECTS MONEY OR WE HAVE HEARINGS, THESE PROPERTY OWNERS WERE NOTIFIED BY A NOTICE OF VIOLATION.

SOMETIMES THEY ARE CRITICIZED. I WOULD GUESS TO REGISTER THE VEHICLE OR REMOVE IT.

THAT WAS IGNORED. THEY WERE CALLED TO A HEARING. THEY DID NOT ATTEND THE HEARING.

AT THE HEARING, THE BOARD, WHICH I BELIEVE WAS IN AUGUST, THE BOARD GIVES MORE TIME TO COMPLY.

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BUT THE BOARD WILL MAKE IT A LESSER AMOUNT. THEY ORDERED $50 PER DAY.

THE VEHICLE STAYED ON THE PROPERTY, RACKING UP A 17,000-DOLLAR PLUS FINE.

THEY CAME INTO COMPLIANCE AND SOLD THE VEHICLE. HERE WE ARE WITH THE FINE.

THE LIEN WAS FINED AFTER THAT. SO WHAT EVER REASON THEY HAVE ASKED YOU TO REDUCE THE $17,000 LIEN AMOUNT TO I BELIEVE THE REQUEST IS 3-$500 PER ON BEHALF OF THE COLD COMPLIANCE OFFICERS.

IT IS IN OUR ORDINANCE, THE VERY MINIMUM THAT THEY CAN REDUCE THE FEES AND FINES TO THE ADMINISTRATIVE COSTS WHICH ARE $212.50. YOU CAN'T GO BELOW THAT.

STAFF HAS RECOMMENDED, MORE I BELIEVE THAT IS WHAT THEY SAY IN THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION I MAY

REMEMBER A LITTLE WRONG. >> IS THAT WHAT IS SAYS? >> THAT IS THE CASE.

I DON'T KNOW IF THE PROPERTY OWNERS ARE HERE TONIGHT TO PLEAD THEIR CASE, I DON'T DOES IT HAVE

THE PROPERTY OWNERS NAME. IT DOES INDEED. >> IT'S IN THE TITLE.

>> >> DO YOU HAVE ANY CONTACT? IT DIDN'T SHOW UP.

SO YOU DON'T KNOW THE SITUATION YOU DIDN'T TALK TO THE PEOPLE AT ALL.

>> I THINK YOU HAVE TO TAKE THEIR REQUEST, AND THAT IS ALL WE HAVE.

>> THANK YOU. THANK YOU MA'AM. >> DO HAVE A MOTION.

I WILL MOVE TO APPROVE. >> I WILL SECOND PERIOD. >> HOLD ON.

WE NEED A MOTION, THERE ARE DIFFERENT ITEMS WHERE YOU COULD LOOK FOR THE STAFF MEETING OR THE RECOMMENDATION OR THE WHOLE THING. WHAT ARE YOU MOVING TO APPROVE?

>> I WILL MOVE TO APPROVE THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION OF REDUCING THE FINE, THE TOTAL FINE DOWN TO

$2,000. >> DO YOU HAVE A SECOND KO EXTENSION WOULD YOU RECOMMEND?

>> WHAT DO YOU WANT TO DISCOUNT IT TO QUICKSAND HE'S ASKING FOR STAFF RECOMMENDATION.

>> AND THE LETTER WITH JESUS $2,500. SO THAT IS $227.

>> HOW MUCH? >> A TOTAL $200,700. 20071250.

>> 200700 $50. -- $2,000.750. >> HE DID NOT HAVE A STICKER ON HIS LICENSE PLATE AND WE WILL CHARGE SOMEONE $2,500 THAT DOESN'T HAVE IT.

THAT IS A LOT OF MONEY TO MOST PEOPLE. I SUSPECT KNOWING WHERE THE HOUSES THAT IS A HUGE AMOUNT OF MONEY. NUMBER ONE I HAVE A PROBLEM WITH OUR LAW. I CAN'T UNDO THE LAW FROM HERE. AND I DO UNDERSTAND THAT THEY DID NOT SHOW UP TONIGHT. I UNDERSTAND THEY DID NOT SHOW UP FOR CODE ENFORCEMENT AND I DON'T KNOW THE REASON WHY. SHAME ON ME FOR NOT DOING THAT. BUT I HAVE A REALLY HARD TIME,

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AND I KNOW THE CODE ENFORCEMENT BOARD SAID WELL, WE HAVE MULTIPLE CHANCES AND THEY DIDN'T SHOW UP. IN THIS CASE, IT SEEMS LIKE AN UNJUST FINE FOR THERE'S JUSTICE AND FAIRNESS. ALMOST $3,000 FOR A TRUCK THAT WAS SITTING THERE.

IF IT HAD THE STICKER IT WOULD BE LEGAL HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THAT.

AND I WISH YOU WOULD ALL SPEAK ON THAT. UNDERSTAND THE RAMIFICATIONS AND IT JUST SEEMS UNFAIR. I WOULD LIKE TO HEAR YOUR OTHER THOUGHTS.

>> I HAVE THE OPPOSITE PROBLEM. THE VEHICLE WAS SITTING THERE. TO GET RID OF THE VEHICLE YOU DON'T WANT IS ONE PHONE CALL, SOMEONE WILL COME TO TOE IT. TO IGNORE IT, TO RESOLVE THIS ISSUE, IT IS LIKE THEY ARE SNUBBING THEIR NOSE AT THE CITY. WHY DO WE HAVE COLD RULES, BECAUSE ANYONE CAN IGNORE THEM FOR TWO YEARS AND THEN COME HERE, AND PLEAD THEIR CASE, THEY WERE GIVEN AMPLE OPPORTUNITY. IT WASN'T LIKE THIS WAS DEMOLITION BY NEGLECT AND THEY HAD TO SPEND THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS. IT TAKES ONE PHONE CALL, TO GET RID OF THAT TRUCK. SO I CANNOT SUPPORT REDUCING THIS.

AT SOME POINT IF WE DON'T DRAW A LINE IN THE SAND AND SAY, YOU BREAK THE RULES YOU PAY THE FINE, WHAT WAS THE OLD TV LINE DON'T DO THE CRIME IF YOU CAN'T DO THE TIME.

DON'T IGNORE OUR CODES UNLESS YOU ARE WILLING TO PAY THE FINE. THIS IS NOT THE FIRST TIME THIS HAS COME BEFORE US. AND IT IS NOT FAIR TO CODE ENFORCEMENT.

WE SEND THEM OUT, THEY TAKE ALL KINDS OF ABUSE. AND THERE IS ALWAYS A REASON.

I CANNOT SUPPORT REDUCING THIS. >> COMMISSIONER LEDNOVICH. >> I SHARE COMMISSIONER ROSS COMPASSION. $2,700 IS A LOT OF MONEY TO THESE PEOPLE.

>> $2,700 PLUS. >> TO ME THE VIOLATION WAS AN INOPERABLE VEHICLE.

MORE THAN THE STICKER. >> MR. LEDNOVICH HAS BEFORE. >> SO MY IGNORANCE IS, I DID NOT SEE PHOTOS OF THE VEHICLE SITTING THERE. WAS IT EN BLOC SPIRIT WAS IT RESTING. WITHIN AN EYESORE? BUT TO YOUR POINT COMMISSIONER ROSS, I THINK WE NEED TO CHANGE THE LAW. WHAT WILL HAPPEN IS, THIS WILL KEEP HAPPENING. SO, ARE WE GOING TO DO THIS EVERY TIME, THAT WE HAVE VIOLATIONS AND WE KNOW PEOPLE CANNOT AFFORD THE FINES. CAN YOU GET BLOOD OUT OF A

TURNIP OR A TULIP. >> IT'S ALL ABOUT THE STICKER. THE STICKER PROBABLY COST $70.

THEY ONLY PAID 300-500. I DON'T GET IT. IF THAT IS WHAT IT WAS ABOUT JUST GET THE STICKER. THEY WERE WELL AWARE THAT THEY WERE WARNED.

>> I WOULD LIKE TO HEAR WHAT TAMMY HAS TO SAY. I JUST WANT TO --

>> I THINK IN THE DEFINITION OF AN INOPERABLE VEHICLE IS LACK OF REGISTRATION.

IT CAN ALSO BEAT THAT THERE IS NO TIRES ON IT. IT IS EN BLOC SPIRIT THE REASON WE HAVE THE STICKER, THE REGISTRATION, IDS, AND I ENCOURAGE YOU TO DO THIS.

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THEY WON'T GO ON PRIVATE PROPERTY WITHOUT A WARRANT OR INVITATION.

THEY HAVE TO VIEW THE VIOLATIONS FROM THE RIGHT-OF-WAY OR THE PROPERTY THAT YOU CAN GO ON WHICH IS USUALLY TO THE FRONT DOOR. YOU CAN'T SNEAK AROUND AND FIND THINGS. SO WE USE THE STICKER AS ONE WAY TO TELL, AND THAT IS FINE IF WE DO IT BUT THE UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCE COULD BE, WILL WE SAY THE DOOR THAT IS MISSING, THAT IS NOT INOPERABLE. THE CAR IS RUSTED OUT. IT IS INOPERABLE.

WE ARE MAKING DECISIONS THAT I'M NOT SURE WE SHOULD MAKE. WE HAVE TO HAVE SOME WINE AND SOME TEST AND THIS IS ONE OF THEM. THE INOPERABLE VEHICLES THAT DO HAVE THE STICKERS, THOSE ARE THE REALLY HARD ONES BECAUSE UNLESS THEY ARE ON BLOCKS, I DON'T KNOW. I SHARE YOUR COMPASSION AND I WOULD SAY SUPPORT STAFF IF YOU WANT TO BE COMPASSIONATE LOWER IT SOME MORE BUT I DON'T THINK WE SHOULD DO AWAY WITH

REGISTRATION STICKERS BECAUSE I THINK YOU WILL GET INTO. >> MANY OF US HAVE HAD THEM EXPIRE. WHEN YOU HAVE IT ON FOR A YEAR, WE NEVER KNOW.

IT'S THE ONLY WAY THE COLD OFFICERS HAVE TO TEST IT. OTHERWISE WE JUST GET RID OF THE VEHICLES OF THE VIOLATION. THAT IS JUST FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION.

>> COMMISSIONER ROSS? >> ACTUALLY PART OF MY CONTEMPLATION.

I ASKED HIM WHAT WOULD HAPPEN, THE CAR WASN'T PARKED IN THE YARD.

IT WAS PARKED ON THE STREET. >> I KNOW IT'S HAPPENED TO ME. >> IN THE STATE OF MARYLAND IT HAPPENED. BASICALLY HE SAID WE DO THIS AND THIS AND IT IS ABOUT COMPLIANCE.

AND, I APPRECIATE WHAT YOU SAID ABOUT THE BRIGHT LINE AND WHAT I SHOULD'VE DONE.

BUT 30 YEARS OF WORKING IN THE EMERGENCY ROOM. I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE STORY IS.

I HAVE A HUGE PROBLEM FINDING THAT KIND OF MONEY FOR THAT KIND OF A VIOLATION.

TO BE FAIR, I THINK THE CHIEF SAID THE FINE WOULD HAVE BEEN $80.

BUT THE ADMINISTRATIVE COST PLUS $100. I THINK WE NEED TO TAKE A LOOK INTO LOOKING BACK AND A LOT OF THE CODE ENFORCEMENT, I GO TO THE MEETINGS AND I HEAR THE STORIES. A PART OF IT IS BETTER THAN TELEVISION.

BETTER THAN ANYTHING. THESE ARE REAL LIKE PEOPLE WITH PROBLEMS. I DON'T KNOW THE STORY. MAYBE SOMEONE DIED IN THE FAMILY.

I DON'T KNOW WHY THEY ARE HERE TONIGHT. THEY ARE NOT HERE TONIGHT.

DID ANYONE INVITE THEM? I DON'T EVEN KNOW IF THEY KNEW IT WAS A HEARING TONIGHT.

SO I CANNOT IN GOOD CONSCIENCE VOTE FOR THIS. SO I WILL LEAVE IT UP TO THE

THREE OF YOU. >> >> ALL I HAD TO DO WITH GET THE STICKER. AND THEY WOULDN'T OF HAD THE PROBLEM.

THEY'RE WILLING TO PAY IN THIS TICKET WAS LESS THAN $100. I DON'T GET IT.

>> COMMISSIONER ROSS. >> THERE'S A HUGE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN WILLING TO PAY IT AND

ABLE TO PAY IT. >> MY POINT WAS IT SAT THERE FOR A YEAR.

I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU ARE SAYING, IT GOT UP TO $17,000. AT SOME POINT WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY DID. I BELIEVE YOU HAVE TO SUPPORT STAFF.

IT LOOKS LIKE THEY ARE TRYING TO BE COMPASSIONATE EVEN THOUGH THAT IS A LOT OF MONEY.

I DON'T DISAGREE WITH THAT. >> SEE NO FURTHER LIGHT SPIRIT ARE USED TO WRITE THESE VIOLATIONS MYSELF. IT'S EASY BECAUSE THE STICKER CHANGED COLORS.

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BUT AS TAMMY SAID IT'S NOT JUST THE STICKER PRICE, THE STICKER IS ADJUSTED BY THE PRICE OF THE VEHICLE AND SOMETIMES INSURANCE IS AN ISSUE AND THEN IF YOU CAN'T GET IT INSURED THAT IS AN ISSUE. I SHOULD HAVE LOOKED AT IT CLOSELY.

THERE WAS CORRESPONDENCE BETWEEN CODE ENFORCEMENT AND THE INDIVIDUAL BUT I HAVEN'T SEEN ANYTHING WHERE IT GOT SO LARGE. WHY DID THEY NOT COME TO THE MEETING, I DON'T KNOW.

WHAT I WILL DO, I WILL VOTE TO, I WILL VOTE TO GO AGAINST THIS AND TAKE THE NEXT FEW DAYS, TO MAKE CONTACT WITH THE PEOPLE TO FIND OUT WHAT HAPPENED. IT'S UNFORTUNATE THAT WE HEARD NOTHING AT ALL. NOT COMING TO THE MEETING NOT PAIN.

I DON'T KNOW IF THEY HAVE A SITUATION. I WAS NEGLECTFUL NOT DOING THIS BEFORE THE MEETING. BUT THAT IS HOW I WILL VOTE. COMMISSIONER ROSS QUICK STANCH

CAN WE MOVE THIS TO THE NEXT MEETING? >> THERE'S ALWAYS A -- THERE IS

ALREADY A MOTION AND A SECOND PERIOD. >> COMMISSIONER LEDNOVICH CAN

WITHDRAW HIS MOTION. >> I WILL MOVE TO WITHDRAW MY ORIGINAL MOTION.

>> DOES THAT HAVE TO HAVE A SECOND? TO HAVE A SECOND ON THAT?

>> I JUST NEED A SECOND PERIOD I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND PERIOD SEEING NONE, THAT'S RIGHT WE ARE WITHDRAWING. A MOTION CAN BE MADE TO MOVE IT. I DON'T WANT TO MAKE THE RECORD MESSY. I'M SORRY. THANK YOU FOR POINTING THAT OUT.

WE HAVE A MOTION IN A SECOND PERIOD CAN YOU CALL THE BOAT? >> COMMISSIONER ROSS.

COMMISSIONER LEDNOVICH. VICE MAYOR KREGER. >> SO I WILL REACH OUT AND GET CONTACT INFORMATION I WILL MAKE EFFORTS TO REACH OUT TO THEM IN SEVERAL DIFFERENT WAYS AND REPORT BACK. YOU DON'T NEED TO DO ALL OF THAT IT'S RIGHT HERE.

ALL RIGHT. MOVING ON. THIS IS ITEM 8.4.

I HAVE SO MANY NOTES ON MY DESK. ITEM A .4. SOLE-SOURCE VENDOR APPROVAL FOR

[8.4 SOLE SOURCE VENDOR APPROVAL – MUNICIPAL EMERGENCY SERVICES ]

MUNICIPAL EMERGENCY SERVICE WAS. >> THIS IS A REQUEST FROM THE FIRE DEPARTMENT.

BASICALLY TO PURCHASE WHAT THEY REFER TO AS THE JAWS OF LIFE TO BE GIVEN TO THE NEW DEPARTMENT.

THE CHIEF IS HERE THIS EVENING IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS. >> I HAVE A SECOND PARAGRAPH A

MOTION AND A SECOND PERIOD. >> YOU KNOW I WILL COMMENT. THIS IS A LETTER INDICATING THE ONLY AGENT FOR THE PRODUCT. I COMMEND THE CHIEF. GOOD JOB.

>> CAN USE A GOOD JOB. I THINK YOU CAN DO THAT. I DON'T THINK YOU CAN TELL HIM

TO TELL YOU. >> I DO HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND PERIOD.

>> ITEM A .5. THIS IS AMENDED AND EXTENDED EMERGENCY ORDER FOR COVID-19

[8.5 AMENDED AND EXTENDED - EMERGENCY ORDER – COVID-19 - MANDATORY MASKS]

MANDATORY MASKS. >> THIS IS EXTENDED UNTIL DECEMBER 6, 2020.

KEEPING WITH THE LOCAL STATE OF EMERGENCY. >> BEFORE THERE IS A MOTION ON THIS. IF THERE IS A MOTION IN A SECOND LET'S GET A MOTION.

>> MOVE FOR. >> A MOTION AND THE SECOND PERIOD I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE I GET THE INFORMATION. SO AS YOU SAW THE GRAPH THAT WAS DISPLAYED EARLIER, THE PANDEMIC IS WITH US, IT IS NOT GOING AWAY. WE ARE NOT MAKING THE GRAPH GO

[02:10:02]

COVERINGS. SO WE NEED TO DO THIS. >> I DO HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND PERIOD BEFORE I CALLED THE VOTE, I WANT TO SHARE A STORY.

SOMEONE CAME UP TO ME AND HAD AN INTERESTING.WHICH I DIDN'T THINK OF.

HE FREQUENTS AN ESTABLISHMENT THAT HAS AN INSIDE AND OUTSIDE AREA.

THIS IS ADJUSTED TO A PARKING LOT. HE NOTICED A LOT OF PEOPLE CAME IN AND WERE CONFUSED. THEY DIDN'T KNOW IF THE MANDATE WAS IN EFFECT.

SO HE SUGGESTED, TO ADD TO THE MANDATE THE CITY PROVIDES THOSE MANDATORY MASKS WITH MESSAGES WE PUT IN THE DOORWAYS FREE OF CHARGE. HE RECOMMENDED WE ADD THAT BUSINESSES INSIDE OF THE CITY THAT ARE OPEN TO THE PUBLIC ARE MANDATED TO HAVE THE SIGNS SO PEOPLE OUT OF TIME -- RIGHT OUT OF TOWN WILL KNOW BECAUSE RIGHT NOW THEY DON'T KNOW.

HE WANTED ME TOO SHARE THAT. I DON'T KNOW WHAT YOUR THOUGHTS ARE ON THAT.

I KNOW, I JUST STARTED LOOKING AROUND. FROM THE BUSINESS ASPECT, IT IS DIFFICULT TO ENFORCE IT WITH PEOPLE WHO DON'T WANT TO DO IT. MOST BUSINESSES AND SOME BUSINESSES DON'T ALLOW IT AT ALL. BUT THE BUSINESSES THAT THE STRIKE THAT DON'T WANT TO ENFORCE IT THEY LET OTHERS KNOW THEY ARE SUPPOSED TO HAVE IT ON.

IF THEY DON'T WANT TO WEAR IT. I JUST WANT TO SHARE THAT. COMMISSIONER LEDNOVICH PICKED.

>> WHEN WE FIRST ENACTED THE MASK ORDINANCE AND WE MADE UP THE SIGNS.

I SPENT A SATURDAY MORNING GOING UP CENTER STREET AND THE SIDESTREETS COUNTING THE BUSINESSES AND THIS IS WHEN WE WERE HANDING THE SIGNS OUT FOR FREE.

I COUNTED THE BUSINESSES THAT HAD SIGNS IN THE WINDOWS. IT WAS FOR BUSINESSES OUT OF 35.

FOUR OUT OF 35. I HAVE NO IDEA IF IT HAS INCREASED SINCE THEN BUT I THINK

THAT IS A VALID SUGGESTION YOU HAVE MADE. >> I JUST WANT TO BACK UP A LITTLE BIT. WE HAVE TO WEAR FACE COVERINGS THERE'S NO QUESTION ABOUT IT.

STATISTICS SHOW AND MAYBE DR. ROSS WHO TALKS ABOUT THE EMERGENCY ROOM AND SOCIAL DISTANCING I THINK THE QUESTION IS, AND WE WILL GET TO IT SOONER, IS OUTSIDE.

I THINK IT WOULD BE DIFFICULT TO ENFORCE OUTSIDE. I THINK WE COULD A LITTLE BIT BUT MOST PLACES I GO LIKE THE NATIONAL CHAINS THEY REQUIRE MASK.

WE DIDN'T HAVE ONE SOON ENOUGH BUT THAT'S FINE. I THINK WE NEED TO EXTENDED AND

EMPHASIZE THE IMPORTANCE. >> THE CITY MANAGER AND I ARE WORRIED ABOUT ENFORCING IT.

>> I WAS GOING TO BRING IT UP. WE WON'T GO DOOR TO DOOR AND SAY, BUT I HAVE EMPLOYEES WHO WORK IN BUSINESSES WHERE THE BUSINESS OWNER OR OPERATOR DOES NOT THINK THAT MASKS SHOULD BE REQUIRED AND THEY STILL HAVE TO WORK THERE. WHEN I THOUGHT ABOUT WHAT HE SAID I THOUGHT THAT IS A GREAT WAY TO PROTECT THE EMPLOYEE WITHOUT THE EMPLOYEE HAVING TO GO TO THE OWNER AND SAY WHY ARE YOU NOT ENFORCING IT WHEN I WORK HERE.

BUT THE SAME THING AND I THOUGHT ABOUT THAT. IF THEY DON'T PUT IT UP OR THEY PUT IT UP AND IT DISAPPEARS WILL WE SIN EMPLOYEES DOOR TO DOOR. SO JUST LIKE SAYING WHERE'S YOUR MASK. WE JUST WANT TO GIVE INFORMATION TO THE PEOPLE.

IT IS NOT MY IDEA. IS NOT A GOOD IDEA OR BAD IDEA I JUST WANTED TO SHARE.

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>> I THINK IT IS A GREAT IDEA, UNFORTUNATELY, IT WILL CAUSE ISSUES AND CONFUSION WITH THE POLICE AND CODE ENFORCEMENT. IF YOU PUT SOMETHING LIKE THIS INTO THIS ORDINANCE OR THIS ORDER, YOU CAN THEN GIVE THEM A CITATION FOR NOT HAVING THE SIGN BUT WE CAN'T DO ANYTHING IF THEY

ARE NOT WEARING A MASK. IT IS DIFFICULT. >> I WAS GOING TO ASK ABOUT THAT WHEN THE GOVERNOR'S ORDER CAME THE WAY I READ IT YOU CAN'T ENFORCE FINES FOR NOT COMPLYING.

THIS IS A CATEGORY TWO MISDEMEANOR. BUT THE CATEGORY TWO MISDEMEANOR, CAN YOU CHARGE SOMEONE WITH THE CATEGORY TWO MISDEMEANOR CLICKS.

>> 252 REFERS TO THE CRIMINAL STATUTES. IT IS A CLASS TWO.

YOU HAVE JAIL TIME WITH THAT AND IT IS UP TO 60 DAYS OR A FINE. AND THE GOVERNOR HAS COVERED THAT SAME NO ARREST IN THE VINES. HE DIDN'T GESTATE NO MONETARY FINES. I REMEMBER READING THAT. I DON'T THINK THAT HAS HAPPENED.

IT HAS HAPPENED. REALLY IMPORTANT? >> I'M GUESSING THERE WAS A CONFRONTATION OR SOMETHING. I WANT FACE COVERINGS. HOW CAN WE DO THIS REASONABLY

WELL. >> YOU CAN SAY THE SAME ARGUMENT HOW CAN YOU SAY ENFORCING IT WHY HAVE ANY MANDATE. IT'S REALLY HARD TO ENFORCE BECAUSE SO WAS WEARING OF MASK.

SO ARE WE STICKING WITH THE ORIGINAL MOTION OF EMOTION AND A SECOND ON THE TABLE.

WILL YOU PLEASE CALL THE BOAT. >> SO JUST FOR CLARIFICATION THIS RESOLUTION GOES TO DECEMBE.

>> RIGHT ALRIGHT ITEM A .6. THIS IS AN OPTION AGREEMENT FOR THE SALE AND PURCHASE.

[8.6 OPTION AGREEMENT FOR SALE AND PURCHASE - PHEASANT RUN, LLC]

I WILL LET MR. HUDSON TALK WHILE I POWER UP THE COMPUTER. >> HELLO EVERYONE.

WHILE HE GET SET UP, I WANTED TO REVIEW SOME OF THE PROGRAM SUCCESS.

ONE THING I HAVEN'T HEARD, I THINK WE ARE CLOSE. >> IF YOU CAN SAY YOUR NAME AND

ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD. >> OF COURSE. >> THAT WAS PROPERTY THAT WE TOOK UNDER CONTRACT EARLIER THIS YEAR. $400,000 FOR THE PURCHASE PRICE AND TO PARCEL JUST SHY OF THE THREE ACRES. AND THAT ONE, IT JUST CLOSED AND THEY SPLIT IT WITH THE CITY 5050. SO WE CONTRIBUTED TOWARDS THE CLOSING. GOOD NEWS. I HAVEN'T HEARD ANYTHING BUT I KNEW THE DOCUMENTS. THAT IS GOING ON AND TO REVIEW AND DISCUSS STARTING WITH THE PROPERTIES ON ALLIGATOR CREEK, THEY WENT UP A LITTLE MORE THAN A YEAR AGO.

WE ALSO HAVE ONE ON EGAN STREET. WE DO HOPE TO CONTINUE THE ACQUISITION PARTNERSHIP.

SO I KNOW THE CITY'S FUTURE FUNDING IS IN DISCUSSION. WE ARE STILL HERE.

WERE NOT GOING ANYWHERE. SO WITH THAT SAID, I AM GOING TO GIVE A BRIEF ON THE PHEASANT RUN PROPERTY. I WAS INITIALLY GOING TO INTRODUCE REBECCA PERRY TODAY.

BUT I HAVE CHANGED JOB TITLES. I AM NOT GOING TO BE DIRECTLY HANDLING THE REAL ESTATE TRANSACTIONS BUT I WILL WORK WITH FUNDING AND THE PLANNING PARTNERSHIPS.

SO I WILL BE MORE WORKING WITH YOU GUYS ON ADDRESSING WHAT IS AN INFRASTRUCTURE STRATEGY LONG-TERM CUSTOMER RESILIENCY AND HOW THAT INTERACTS. I WILL BE AROUND BUT REBECCA ENDED UP IN A CONFLICT BUT SHE WILL BE THE ONE TO DISCUSS THE ACTUAL TRANSACTIONS IN THE FUTURE. SHE'S GREAT. SHE HAVE A FEW MORE YEARS THAN

ME IN THE GAME. >> TO TALK ABOUT THE PHEASANT RUN PROPERTY.

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I ALSO UNDERSTAND THE DITCH HAS BEEN CAUSING FLOODING ISSUES IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

ONE OF THE THINGS YOU SHOULD KNOW IS THAT INITIALLY WE WERE TOLD 11TH 16.

BUT ZONING IS UP TO 21 UNITS. THOSE UNITS COULD BE DONE WITH SEPTIC TANKS.

IN THE WOULD'VE BEEN A POTENTIAL WATERFALL. THE OTHER THING, IF THE PROPERTY DEVELOPS, IF THERE'S ANY PROBLEMS, THE SURFACE INCREASES AND THEY COULD HAVE MORE STORMWATER ISSUES. WE ARE HOPING THE CONSERVATION WILL HELP TO SOLVE THAT.

LIKE I SAID. THIS IS THE PHOTO SHOWING THE DRAINAGE CONNECTIONS OF THE PROPERTY. THIS IS THE CONCERN IS WHILE IT IS NOT IDEAL, THAT THE UNDERSTORY VEGETATION ELSE'S BACK REALLY QUICKLY. AND WITH THE CITY ARBOR AND THE MANAGEMENT PLAN THERE'S A LOT OF EXPERIENCE. I'M STILL CONCERNED ABOUT THAT

IMPACT. THE PURCHASE PRICE IS $675,000. >> AND OTHER THAN THAT, THE OTHER THING I WOULD LIKE TO MENTION IS WE ARE NOT PROPOSING A 5050 SPLIT, WE ARE ACTUALLY WORKING ON TWO PROJECTS THE FUNDRAISING CAPABILITIES AND ONE OF WHICH WHICH IS NOT IN THE CITY BUT I THINK SOMETHING THAT PEOPLE WITHIN THE CITY WOULD BE INTERESTED IN THE PROCESS OF PUTTING CONTRACTS DOWN TO THE BEACH AREA NOT IN THE CITY BUT A BIG PART OF THE CITY.

THEY ARE NOT CHEAP DOWN THERE. THAT WILL BE A SIGNIFICANT FUNDRAISING EFFORT.

THERE IS A PROPERTY ON THE GREENWAY THAT HAS SIGNIFICANT INTEREST TO THE CITY.

WE WERE NOT ABLE TO ACQUIRE IT OURSELVES BUT THERE ARE SOME DONORS AND IT LOOKS LIKE THEY MAY WORK TO ATTRACT THAT. WE ARE PUTTING THAT TOWARDS OUR FUNDRAISING CAPABILITIES.

THAT IS TAXING A LOT OF THE MAJOR DONORS. THAT IS WHY WE ARE NOT PROPOSING A 5050 SPIN ON THE PROPERTY. NOT BECAUSE WERE NOT TRYING TO FUND RAISE WE'RE JUST TRYING TO

PUT THE MONEY SOMEWHERE ELSE. >> AND IT SHOULD BE A FAIRLY SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT.

>> WITH THAT SAID, I AM OPEN FOR QUESTIONS. >> MARK, DO YOU REMEMBER, THIS WOULD BE A WHILE BACK WHEN WE FIRST TALKED ABOUT CONSERVATION AND YOU PROVIDED A LIST.

>> TO BE HONEST I HAVEN'T LOOKED. THIS WAS ON THE LIST.

DO YOU HAVE ANY RECALL OF WHERE IT WAS RANKED. THE LIST OF PROPERTIES WAS A LIST AFTER WE LOWERED IT. SO FUNCTIONALLY THIS WOULD HAVE BEEN IN THE TOP 10%.

I CAN'T REMEMBER WHERE. BUT IT WOULD'VE BEEN IN THE TOP TEN.

>> THERE IS NOT A LOT OF VACANT LOTS IN THE CITY. I THINK THERE IS SOMETHING TO BE SAID IN TERMS OF PROTECTION. WE LIKE THIS ONE BECAUSE WHEN YOU START LOOKING AT THE LOTS, THEY ARE DUBIOUS. IN BIOLOGY THERE IS A TERM THAT WE USE.

WHEN YOU CREATE THE AREA, BECAUSE IT IS SMALL THEY CAN'T HIDE FROM THINGS LIKE FERAL

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I WOULD SAY UNIVERSALLY BUT WE DO THINK THIS WOULD BE A UNIQUE OPPORTUNITY.

>> THANK YOU. VICE MAYOR KREGER. >> I NOMINATE THIS WITH THE ORDINANCE. THE REASON I NOMINATED THE PROPERTY WAS BECAUSE IT WAS A MAJOR CONCERN OF THE DIRECTOR OF PLANNING THAT IT SHOULD BE DEVELOPED AND THE PROBLEMS IT WOULD CAUSE IT DEVELOPED. SO, IT IS JUST EXCELLENT. WE HAVE SOME OTHER ONES TOO.

>> I WAS GOING TO SAY THERE'S ALWAYS ENOUGH LAND. >> AND WE HAVE THE MONEY FOR THIS CORRECT? WE HAVE A MOTION AT A SECOND PERIOD YOU MAJOR PRESENTATION. WE ARE HEARING A LOT OF TERMS.

CAN YOU EXPLAIN WITH THIS IS. >> A MARITIME HELMET, I THINK A LOT OF PEOPLE THINK IT IS UNIVERSAL TO ANY FOREST. AND THERE'S DEFINITELY A VARIETY OF DEFINITIONS BUT MOST INCLUDE A FORCE. WHEN YOU GET CLOSER TO THE BEACH THEY GET SHORTER BECAUSE THERE IS SALT IN THE AIR THAT CAUSES THE TREE BRANCHES TO RESTRICT. THIS IS NOT THE SAME.

THERE IS SOMETHING ON THE PROPERTY. AN WE DO HAVE DIFFERENT LEVELS WHICH MEAN IT IS DRY. AND THIS MEANS NICELY IN BETWEEN.

THAT IS REALLY ALL IT MEANS. >> WE HEARD THAT TERM USED QUITE A BIT.

I LOOKED IT UP. EVERYTHING ON THE OTHER SIDE WOULD BE MORE MARITIME.

>> THE MARITIME, IT VARIES QUITE A BIT. SOMETIMES IT TENDS TO BE LIMITED

TO AN AREA THAT IS A LITTLE BIT AWAY FROM THE OCEAN. >> COMMISSIONER.

>> IS THERE ANY DOUBT THAT IF WE DID NOT ACQUIRE THE PROPERTY IT WOULD BE REDEVELOPED?

ABSOLUTELY. >> WHEN HE HEARD ABOUT US HE REACHED OUT BECAUSE HE THOUGHT THIS WAS A BETTER USE FOR THE PROPERTY. BUT IT WAS AN INVESTMENT PROPERTY. IF THE CITY IS NOT THE BUYER HE WILL TREATED LIKE IT WAS

ORIGINALLY. >> I JUST WANT TO ADDRESS THE ELEPHANT IN THE ROOM.

WE RECEIVED E-MAILS, THAT THE PROPERTY OWNER HAD ACQUIRED THIS LAND IN 2019, AND WAS GOING TO MAKE IT READY TO PERCENT PROFIT. BUT THAT IS WHAT IS HAPPENING ON THE ISLAND WITH THE PROPERTY.

SO THIS COMMISSION, HAS THE CHOICE OF SCENE HOUSES WITH SEPTIC TANKS ON THE PROPERTY OR WE COULD CONSERVE IT. AND THAT IS JUST WHAT IS HAPPENING HERE.

PEOPLE KNOW WE WANT TO CONSERVE THE LAND. WE HAVE BUYERS BUYING LAND AND THEY WILL PROFIT OFF OF THE CITY. THERE IS NO TWO WAYS AROUND IT.

I JUST WANTED TO ADDRESS THAT. I SUPPORT THIS AND I WILL BE VOTING FOR IT.

>> LET ME GIVE YOU A DIFFERENT SPIN ON IT. LET'S DO SOME MATH.

SO, IT WAS BOUGHT ORIGINALLY FOR $475,000, IS THAT CORRECT? >> AIN'T YOU GOT IT AT A DISTRESSED SALE. SO YOU DIVIDE THAT BY 21 AND YOU COME UP WITH 21 UNITS ON THE PROPERTY. IF YOU DIVIDE THAT BY 21 AND YOU COME UP WITH 22,600.

TO DEVELOP A SINGLE-FAMILY, WITH THE INFRASTRUCTURE, WHICH IS THE ROAD, THE ELECTRIC UTILITIES YOU ARE TALKING 50 GRANT OR LESS PER YEAR. SO THAT BRINGS IT TO, LET ME DO THE MATH HERE, 72,000 PER UNIT. SO THAT BRINGS YOUR INVESTMENT INCLUDING THE LAND PRICE, TO ONE AND A HALF MILLION DOLLARS. I CAN TELL YOU THE LOT ACROSS THE STREET FROM ME IS MUCH

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THEY WOULD PROBABLY SELL, BETWEEN 150-$200,000. >> NOT AN UNREASONABLE ESTIMATE.

THAT'S PROBABLY THE GOING ESTIMATE. THOUGH THAT BRINGS IT TO 150.

THREE-POINT $1 MILLION. THOUGH I WOULD SUGGEST, THAT HE'S LOSING $1.6 MILLION.

THOUGH THERE IS A DIFFERENT WAY OF LOOKING AT THAT. I GIVE A SHOUT OUT BECAUSE HE CAN MAKE MORE MONEY SELLING THIS SO THERE IS A FLIPSIDE TO THE STORY.

IT LOOKS LIKE HE IS MAKING A KILLING THAT HE IS LITERALLY WALKING AWAY.

YOU DID THE MATH. WHEN I READ AND I THOUGHT THE SAME THING.

SO SHOUT OUT TO HIM, I AGREE ONE 100%. HE'S REALLY DOING US A FAVOR AND HE CAME FORWARD. HE WANTS US TO HAVE THIS PROPERTY.

HE LIVES ON THE ISLAND. HE WILL STAY ON THE ISLAND. HE RAISED HIS FAMILY ON THE ISLAND. HE DESERVES THE CREDIT I BELIEVE.

AND HAS ANYONE SPOKEN TO HIM? YOU GOT THE INDICATION AS WELL. I AM ON THE COMMITTEE WITH HIM.

>> I DON'T WANT TO PUT WORDS INTO HIS MOUTH. I AGREE HE DID NOT WANT HIS NAME ATTACHED. I TALKED TO HIM A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO MAYBE BEFORE THAT.

I ASKED HIM WHAT IS THE SCARIEST THING THAT IS KEEPING YOU AWAKE AT NIGHT AND THIS IS THE PROPERTY BECAUSE OF THE PROXIMITY. CONTENT AND TO REINFORCE.

WE WOULD NOT HAVE KNOWN IT WAS AVAILABLE EXCEPT A MUTUAL FRIEND, WAS TALKING TO HIM AND HE REACHED OUT ON THAT BASIS. ON THE ARGUMENT THAT HE THINKS THIS IS FOR BETTER USE.

>> I KNOW A LOT OF PEOPLE WATCH THE MEETINGS AND THEY LOOK AT FACEBOOK, LET'S KEEP AN EYE ON THIS ONE. AND LET'S KEEP A HANDLE ON THIS. LET'S TRY TO PUT THE FIRE OUT.

>> LET'S PUT THE FIRE OUT. I DO HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND ON THE TABLE.

CAN WE CALL THE VOTE? >> AND AS A NOTE, I WANT TO SAY IT AND MAKE IT CLEAR, THIS IS OUT YOU CAN SERVE THE COUNTY. YOU BUDGET FOR YOU ASK IT IN YOU BY THE LAWSUITS, NO ARGUMENTS.

BY IT AND CONSERVE IT. WELL DONE. >> THAT IS COOL.

>> ALL RIGHT. ITEM 8.7. SPECIAL EVENTS APPROVAL

[8.7 SPECIAL EVENTS APPROVAL ]

THE 2020 CALENDAR. >> THIS WAS A DISCUSSION WE HAD LAST WEEK AT THE MOST RECENT MEETING ABOUT THE POSSIBILITY OF FUTURE EVENTS. THERE WERE FOUR EVENTS SCHEDULED BETWEEN NOW AND THE END OF THE CALENDAR YEAR. THOSE INCLUDE THIS SATURDAY'S VETERANS DAY PARADE. THE CHRISTMAS TREE LIGHTING, AS WELL AS THE NEW YEAR'S EVE ACTIVITIES. AND I'M NOT SURE WHO'S HERE, THERE WON'T BE A SHARP DROP JUST FIREWORKS. STAFF IS JUST LOOKING FOR GUIDANCE ON HOW WE RESPOND ON

HOW WE PREPARE FOR THE CONDUCT OF THESE EVENTS. >> THANK YOU MR. MAYOR.

>> I AM NOT GOING TO SUPPORT THIS, UNLESS WE ELIMINATE FROM THIS RESOLUTION, THE CITY CHRISTMAS TREE LIGHTING, AND THE FIREWORKS SHRIMP DROP EVENT, FOR THE FOLLOWING REASONS.

ON THE PARADES, AND AS I SAID, I PARTICIPATED IN THE PARADE. SO I CAN'T BE HYPOCRITICAL.

I THINK ON THE PARADES PEOPLE HAVE THE ABILITY TO SPREAD OUT IN DISTANCE.

BUT AS FAR AS THE TREE LIGHTING, AND THE FIREWORKS, WE ARE TALKING ABOUT SANCTIONING A

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WE JUST REVIEWED THE COVID-19 NUMBERS. SO I WANT TO PULL THESE TWO EVENTS OUT AND REVIEW THEM, TO SEE WHERE WE ARE WITH COVID-19 AND I WORKED CURVE AND WITH THE

TREND IS DOING. AND ADDRESS THEM AT THAT TIME. >> CAN YOU SAY IT AGAIN.

>> I WANT TO MAKE MY STATEMENT. I WANT TO CALL SOMEONE ELSE. >> I DO NOT WANT ON MY HEAD SOMEONE GOING TO THIS EVENT, TO THE TREE LIGHTING OR FIREWORKS, STANDING NEXT TO THE OTHER PERSON, AND GIVE ANOTHER PERSON COVID AND THAT PERSON SUFFERS OR DIES.

>> I WILL ALWAYS IT WOULD BE AFTER THE NEXT MEETING. >> THIS IS TO OUR NEXT RESOLUTION. YOU'RE SAYING WE APPROVE THE PARADE AND WE MAY -- WAIT UNTIL THE NEXT MEETING. DOES THAT CAUSE ANY PROBLEMS FOR THIS COMMITTEE.

WE DID JUST GET THE CHRISTMAS TREE IN. WE CAN STILL LIKE A CHRISTMAS TREE MAYBE NOT HAVE THE LARGE GATHERING. WHEN WE SPOKE WITH OFFICIALS, THEY INDICATED THEY ARE GOING TO HAVE ANOTHER MEETING IN DECEMBER , AND THAT WE ARE SCHEDULED TO TALK TO FIND OUT THEY WILL HAVE A MEETING. WE WILL THEN TALK TO THEM ON DECEMBER 14 TO FIND OUT THEY WILL BE MAKING THE SAME DECISION.

I THINK THAT IS REASONABLE. I DON'T THINK THAT WILL PUT TIME CONSTRAINTS.

WE WILL STILL SET UP AND DECORATE THE CHRISTMAS TREE. THERE IS A MOTION ON THE FLOOR.

>> HAVE A MOTION ON THE SECOND PERIOD COMMISSIONER ROSS? I THINK I KNOW WHAT HE IS SAYING. I THINK I HAVE IT. BUT I WANT TO MAKE SURE.

I'VE BEEN CHARACTERIZED. >> WE DO HAVE TWO PARADES AND WE SEE THE CHRISTMAS LIGHTING WILL SHOW WHAT DEVELOPS. THAT WILL BE BETWEEN NOW AND THE NEXT MEETING.

AND FOR THE FIREWORKS, WE WILL REEVALUATE THAT IN THE FIRST MEETING IN DECEMBER.

>> THIS IS CHRISTMAS TREE LIGHTING THAT CANCEL WE ARE NOT AS A CITY, WE'RE NOT GOING TO ATTRACT PEOPLE TO DISPLAY CHRISTMAS TREE. IT WON'T BE ANY EVENT.

WHERE TO PICO. >> AND THE MOTION ON THE FLOOR IS TO HAVE IT AT THE NEXT

MEETING WHICH IS NOVEMBER 17. >> THAT IS WHAT I HEARD. >> IF NOT JUST THE PARTS OF WE TALKED ABOUT. COMMISSIONER CHAPMAN I'M A LITTLE CONFUSED BECAUSE, WE ARE

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IT'S OKAY TO PACK SHOULDER TO SHOULDER, WITH NO MASK BUT WE SHOULDN'T LET THEM GO TO THE

WATERFRONT TO WATCH THOSE SHRIMP DROP. >> I DON'T GET IT.

IN I THINK, MY POSITION ON WEARING MASKS AND SOCIAL DISTANCING AS BEEN CLEAR.

I UNDERSTAND, WE WON'T ALLOW THE PARADE, BUT GAIL YOU SAID SOMETHING ABOUT LIMITING THE NUMBERS FOR THE CHRISTMAS TREE LIGHTING HAS NOT GONE ANYWHERE. I DON'T UNDERSTAND THE LOGIC

BEHIND WHAT WE ARE GOING TO DO THAT'S ALL. >> I THINK WE ARE IN A POSITION BASED ON WE CONSIDER. I THINK THE PROBLEM IS IT WAS APPROVED.

AND THAT IS WHAT READ THE SITUATION. I HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH CONSIDERING THEM ALL. IF THESE NUMBERS, START HAPPENING, THEY SHOULD JUST CANCEL IT. AND NOT GIVE THE IMPRESSION. I'M NOT SURE WE SHOULDN'T JUST

DO THAT TONIGHT. >> ARE YOU SEEING THIS COMING SATURDAY?

>> >> MY POSITION IS PEOPLE SHOULD SOCIALLY DISTANCE WHERE A FACE

COVERING WASH THEIR HANDS. >> I THINK YOU SHOULD MAKE IT CLEAR THAT PEOPLE SHOULD WEAR THE FACE COVERING SPIRIT I THINK IN VIEW OF WHAT'S GOING ON I THINK IT'S OKAY, IS A PERFECT NO IT'S NOT, WILL IT HAPPEN WHETHER WE DO IT OR NOT, PROBABLY. I THINK IT IS REASONABLE, AND HYPOCRITICAL WE SHOULD WAIT. WE SHOULD KICK THE CAN DOWN THE ROAD.

IT COULD GO MANY WAYS. I THINK WE SHOULD CANCEL THE CHRISTMAS TREE LIGHTING.

THAT ONE MAY NOT WORK OUT TOO WELL. WE WILL SEE WHAT DEVELOPS.

>> IF WE CANCEL THE CHRISTMAS TREE LIGHTING I WOULD HOPE WE OPPORTUNITY TO FILM IT, SO REMOTELY, THEY ARE STILL PARTICIPATING IN THAT. WE ADDED DISCUSSION ABOUT COUNSELING AND THIS IS A GREAT OPPORTUNITY FOR THEM TO SAY WE ARE SURVIVING.

AND AGAIN, JUST A WAY TO GET PEOPLE TO HAVE SOME NORMALCY. >> I SEE WHAT YOU'RE TRYING TO

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>> THEY GET THERE EARLY IN THE STUCCO. HOPEFULLY THEY COME WITH AN IDEA OR A PLAN THIS WORKS. PEOPLE ARE TIRED OF BEING SEPARATED.

I'M WORRIED THAT WILL PACK A TON OF PEOPLE. I DON'T CARE HOW MANY RULES THEY

PUT IN PLACE. I CAN'T PUT WORDS IN YOUR MOUTH. >> AS YOU KNOW, WITH THE LAST DISCUSSION, I THINK IT WAS TWO WEEKS AGO, WE OFFERED TO WORK WITH ORGANIZATIONS THAT HAD WAYS TO MANAGE SOCIAL SEPARATION. AND QUITE FRANKLY, THE SOLUTIONS THAT WE LOOKED AT FOR THE PARADE, AND THE FIREWORKS, ARE UNTAMABLE. TO SPEAK TO THE MAYOR'S COMMENTS ABOUT THE CHRISTMAS PARADE, ONE WITH I DON'T THINK ANYONE WOULD BE WILLING TO ACCEPT THAT RESTRICTION AS FAR AS THE EVENTS ARE CONCERNED AS FAR AS FIREWORKS,.

>> THAT'S WHAT WE ARE MOVING AHEAD WITH ON OUR PLANS. IF YOU WANT TO CALL IT THAT.

WE ARE SPENDING $150,000 AND IT IS DESIGNED TO BE ENJOYED FROM THE COMFORT OF YOUR HOME.

WE DON'T PLAN TO HAVE A LIGHTING CEREMONY, WE WILL JUST TURN THE SWITCH AND LET PEOPLE HAVE A GOOD SIGN. FORTUNATELY I DON'T HAVE AN ANSWER.

IT IS A DIFFICULT QUESTION. MAYOR LEDNOVICH MAKES A GOOD POINT, WE CAN'T GO WITH WHAT'S HAPPENING AROUND THE COUNTRY. WE HAVE 100,000 PEOPLE BEING DIAGNOSED.

THERE ARE SPIKES IN THE COMMUNITY, WE EXPLORED THIS AND TALK TO THE DOC YOUR CRIMINAL EVIDENCE THE TOURISTS ARE BRINGING THIS TO THE COMMITTEE. WE HAVE NO GOOD ANSWER.

I DON'T KNOW IF WE WILL HAVE ONE IN TWO WEEKS. BUT THE LOGISTICS FOR THE MAJOR

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>> THANK YOU SIR. VICE MAYOR KREGER, I SUPPORT THIS.

THE ANSWER IS WHAT THE CDC SAYS WE SHOULD DO. >> I DO HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND PERIOD PLEASE CALL THE BOAT. ITEM 9.1 LAND DEVELOPMENT

[9.1 LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE AMENDMENT - MINOR CHANGES AND DISCREPANCIES]

CERTIFICATE OF APPROVAL MATRIX TO INCLUDE REVIEW OF EXTERIOR MODERN MOUNTAIN DEVICES AS PROVIDED IN THE SUBSECTION PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY AND AN EFFECTIVE DATE.

THESE ARE SOME MINOR CHANGES BUT SOME MAJOR AREAS THAT WILL NOT BE REGULATED.

THIS IS ALL DATA ARE NOT FACING THE RIGHT WAY.YOU CAN SEE THEM FROM THE RIGHT AWAY WHEN WALKING THROUGH THE HISTORIC DISTRICT. THAT WILL BE REVIEWED BY COUNSEL THE OTHERS ARE RACETRACKS.

THEY ARE PROHIBITED SOIL RACETRACKS. THAT WOULD INCLUDE GO KART

RACING. >> THANK YOU. I HAD A CONVERSATION WITH THE CITY ATTORNEY ABOUT SOME MINOR STUFF AND SOME QUESTIONS I WILL TALK ABOUT I WILL MOVED TO

APPROVE. THANK YOU. >> HAVE A MOTION A SECOND CALL THE ROLE -- VOTE. ORDERS ARE THUS SECOND MEETING. SO MANY OF YOU WANT TO LEAVE IN

[10.1 PROPOSED CHARTER AMENDMENTS ]

I HAVE TO IT IS REQUIRED BY LAW. YOU CAN CHECK THE ELECTION RESULTS YOU CAN CHECK YOUR TEXT

MESSAGES. >> ORDINANCE 2020 -- 21 AND ORDINANCE OF THE CITY SUBMITTING TO THE CITY ELECTORS PROPOSE AMENDMENTS TO THE CHARTER, AMENDING SECTION ONE TO REFLECT ACCURATE HISTORY OF THE CREATION OF THE CITY OF FERNANDINA BEACH AND CREATING AN INITIAL ELECTION TO ELIMINATE RUNOFF AFTER THE GENERAL ELECTION DAY. AMENDING SECTIONS INTO REQUIRE CITY COMMISSIONERS TO COMPLETE ANNUAL PERFORMANCE EVALUATIONS FOR CHARTER OFFICERS AND TO INCLUDE PENALTIES FOR COMMISSIONERS INTERFERING WITH THE ADMINISTRATIVE SERVICE.

AMENDING SECTION 11 BY ADDRESSING COMMISSIONER ABSENCES AND VACANCIES, INCORPORATING STATE CODE OF ETHICS FOR COMMISSIONERS AND FOR PROVIDING TO PROCESS PRIOR TO FORFEITURE OF COMMISSION SEE FOR VIOLATION OF THE RULES. AMENDING SECTION 16 BY CHANGING

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REQUIRING THAT THE URAL CANDIDATE WITH THE SECOND-HIGHEST BOTH BE ELECTED AS VICE MAYOR. AMENDING SECTION 17 BY MAKING MAYOR RESPONSIBLE FOR COMMISSIONERS COMPLETION OF CHARTER OFFICERS EVALUATE YOUR SPIRIT AMENDING SECTION 21 BY INCLUDING A PROVISION TO ALLOW COMMISSIONERS TO ATTEND MEETINGS USING COMMUNICATION TECHNOLOGY DUE TO A SERIOUS MEDICAL CONDITION IN COMPLIANCE WITH STATE LAW.

AMENDING SECTION 25 BY INCLUDING MINIMUM PROFESSIONAL QUALIFICATIONS FOR CITY MANAGER, INCREASING THE TIME FOR A NEW CITY MANAGER TO BECOME CITY RESIDENTS FROM 30-90 DAYS AND REQUIRING DESIGNATION OF CITY MANAGER PRO TEM. AMENDING SECTION 31 BY INCLUDING MINIMUM PROFESSIONAL QUALIFICATIONS FOR CITY ATTORNEY AND REQUIRING THAT THE CITY ATTORNEY PROVIDE A LIST OF QUALIFIED ATTORNEYS FOR CONSIDERATION BY THE CITY COMMISSION FOR CITY ATTORNEY PRO TEM. AMENDING SECTION 41 BY PROVIDING THAT A FREEDOM -- REFERENDUM VOTE OF THE PEOPLE IS REQUIRED BEFORE THE POLICE DEPARTMENT CAN'T BE RESOLVED. A REFERENDUM VOTE OF THE PEOPLE IS REQUIRED BEFORE THE FIRE DEPARTMENT CAN'T BE DISSOLVED. AMENDING SECTION 47 BY INCLUDING MINIMUM PROFESSIONAL QUALIFICATIONS FOR CITY CLERK AND REQUIRING DESIGNATION OF CITY CLERK PRO TEM.

AMENDING SECTION 58 AND 60 BY PROVIDING MINIMUM PROFESSIONAL QUALIFICATIONS FOR COMPTROLLER AND REQUIRING COMPTROLLER TO PROPOSED SOUND, WRITTEN INVESTMENT POLICIES FOR APPROVAL BY COMMISSION. AMENDING SECTION 64 BY REQUIRING COMPTROLLER TO SCHEDULE ANNUAL FINANCIAL AUDIT BY INDEPENDENT CERTIFIED PUBLIC ACCOUNTANT. AMENDING SECTION 74 AND 75 BY PROHIBITING THE TRANSFER OF FUNDS OUT OF CONSERVATION TRUST FUND TO BE USED FOR ANY OTHER PURPOSE BESIDES CONSERVATION. REPEALING SECTION 107A TO RESTRICTIONS ON COMMUNITY REDEVELOPMENT AREAS. PROVIDING AN OATH OF OFFICE IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE STATE LAW INCLUDING FLORIDA CODE OF ETHICS FOR PUBLIC OFFICERS AND EMPLOYEES.

AMENDING SECTION 136 PROVIDING THAT BY MAJORITY VOTE COME CITY COMMISSIONERS CHARTER OFFICERS AND MEMBERS OF POINTED CITY BOARDS MAY REQUEST THAT THE CITY COMMISSION INVESTIGATE A DEPARTMENT, OFFICER OR EMPLOYEE. CREATING SECTION 141 PROVIDING FOR CITIZEN INITIATIVES TO PROPOSE OR AMEND CITY ORDINANCE AND PROVIDING FOR AN INITIATIVE PROCESS, AND AMENDING RESERVE SECTION 142 TO REQUIRE THE CHAPTER TO BE REVIEWED EVERY EIGHT YEARS BY A CHARTER REVIEW COMMITTEE MADE UP OF CITY RESIDENTS. AMENDING SECTION 6-8, 12-13, 22, 29-30, 59, 62, 71, 79, 137, 143, AND 144 TO CLARIFY CERTAIN PROVISIONS WITHOUT CHANGING THEIR MEANING. REPEALING SECTIONS 10B, 14-15, 20, 32-33, 45, 61, 69, 72, 78, 120, 122 AND 125 TO BE CONSISTENT WITH THE STATE LAW AND INCORPORATING SECTIONS INTO OTHER EXISTING SECTIONS. PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY AND PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE.

>> THIS IS THE FIRST READING. IT IS ACTUALLY THE SECOND READING BUT WE CHANGED IT A LOT

SO WE DON'T HAVE TO HAVE IT UNTIL THE NEXT TIME. >> WE HAVE A MOTION?

>> MOVED TO APPROVE. >> I WILL SECOND PERIOD. >> WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND

PERIOD VICE MAYOR KREGER. >> REPRESENTATIVE TO HELP ME OUT HERE.

THE SECTION THAT DEALS WITH THE PRIMARY ELECTION, THAT'S UNACCEPTABLE TO ME.

I WON'T SUPPORT THAT. CAN WE TAKE THAT OUT? >> THERE IS A MOTION AND A

SECOND ON THE FLOOR. >> YOU MADE THE MOTION? SO WHOEVER MADE THE MOTION CAN

AMENDED OR WE CAN VOTE ON IT. >> AND I HAVE SOME LANGUAGE THAT I NEGLECTED TO ADD.

I NEED TO ADD IT BEFORE YOU VOTE. >> I WOULD LIKE TO CHANGE MY MOTION TO REMOVE THE SECTION THAT DEALS WITH THE PRIMARY. THAT BOTHERS ME THAT IT IS

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>> THE WAS MADE. >> I WILL ACCEPT THAT. >> AND MAY I EXPLAIN IT.

THERE'S A COUPLE OF THINGS. THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS GOING ON.

THIS ORDINANCE, CAME TO US FIRST A FEW MONTHS AGO. THAT IS WHY THIS IS THE NUMBER.

WE KEPT THAT NUMBER, AND ORIGINALLY THIS SAID SEND ALL OF THESE QUESTIONS.

THERE WOULD BE 15, TO THE BALLOT, TO THE VOTERS. WE DECIDED NOT TO DO THAT.

IT WAS TOO MUCH GOING ON YESTERDAY. AND YOU DECIDED TO THINK ABOUT THE MAIL BALLOT ELECTIONS. NOW WE ARE HERE AT THE SECOND READING AND THERE IS A SIGNIFICANT CHANGE. YOU WANTED TO CONTINUE TO MEET. AND BASICALLY ADDED THAT SOME TWEETS BUT SOME MAJOR CHANGES. ONE IS IN SECTION NINE. THIS WAS A MINOR CHANGE FROM GROUPS TO SEATS. AND NOW, IT IS CHANGING GROUPS TO SEATS AS THE TERMINOLOGY BUT IT ALSO SAYS THAT TO AVOID A RUNOFF IN DECEMBER AFTER THE GENERAL ELECTION, TO HAVE AN INITIAL ELECTION. THEY CALLED IT AN INITIAL ELECTION TO BE HELD IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE COUNTY AND STATE PRIMARY ELECTION. WE DIDN'T PUT DATES.

THE CITY COMMISSIONER SAID STATES BY ORDINANCE. THE COUNTY AND STATE ELECTIONS COULD CHANGE. THAT IS GENERALLY WHAT IT MEANS. WE HAVE AN INITIAL ELECTION, LET'S SAY THREE CANDIDATES RUNNING FOR A GROUP OR A SEAT. IF THREE PUT THEIR NAMES IN, WE WILL HAVE AN ELECTION ON THE BALLOT WITH AN INITIAL ELECTION IN AUGUST.

THE TOP TWO VOTE GETTERS, WITHIN GO TO THE GENERAL ELECTION BALLOT IN NOVEMBER.

SO THAT IS WHAT VICE MAYOR KREGER DOESN'T THINK IS A GOOD THING.

THAT IS THE MOTION AND WE HAD A SECOND PERIOD BUT I TO HAVE TO, I APOLOGIZE.

THERE'S A LOT OF STUFF. SECTION 141, AND THIS IS A VERY IMPORTANT ONE.

ANOTHER BIG CHANGE THAT IS CITIZEN INITIATIVES. IT IS A BRAND-NEW LANGUAGE.

IT PROVIDES FOR CITIZEN INITIATIVES. SO CITIZENS COULD, WITH 10% OF THE REGISTERED ELECTORS GET A PETITION AND THERE IS A PROCESS AND ASK FOR, ORDINANCES TO BE PUT ON THE BALLOT AND REVIEWED BY THE CITY COMMISSION FOR APPROVAL BY THE VOTERS.

THIS IS A PROCESS WE HAVE NEVER HAD BEFORE AND IT OCCURS ALL OVER THE STATE.

THAT WAS PRETTY MUCH UNANIMOUS. >> ALL OVER THE STATE. >> I'M SAYING OTHER STATES DO CITY INITIATIVES. SO IT'S NOT UNUSUAL. BUT I DO NEED TO READ THE LAST TWO PARAGRAPHS THAT WERE NOT INCLUDED BUT WERE APPROVED BY THE CHARTER REVIEW COMMITTEE.

THEY JUST DID MAKE IT INTO THE CUT-AND-PASTE. AND THEY ARE, IN YOUR ORDINANCE IT GOES THROUGH, SUBSECTIONS A THROUGH D WITH NUMBERS UNDERNEATH.

AND THEN IT STOPS. BUT WE ACTUALLY HAVE PROOF IN SUBSECTION E, ACTION ONE PETITIONS. ACTION BY COMMISSION WHEN AN INITIATIVE HAS BEEN FINALLY DETERMINED. THE CITY COMMISSION WILL PROBABLY CONSIDER THE PROPOSED INITIAL ORDINANCE IF THEY FAILED TO ADOPT THE INITIATIVE WITHOUT ANY CHANGE WITHIN 60 DAYS AFTER THE DATE THE PETITION WAS DETERMINED SUFFICIENT THEY WILL CITY.

NUMBER TWO, SUBMISSION TO VOTERS. THE POPE BY THE ORDINANCE WILL BE HELD AT THE NEXT REGULAR CITY ELECTION BUT NOT LESS THAN 90 DAYS FROM THE DATE THAT POSITION WAS DETERMINED SUFFICIENT. THEY PROVIDE FOR SPECIAL ELECTION AND AN EARLIER DATE AND THE NEXT REGULAR ELECTION, PROVIDED THAT ONE IS 90 DAYS AFTER THE DATE OF THE PETITION IS DETERMINED. COPIES OF THE PROPOSED ORDINANCE WILL BE MADE AVAILABLE AT THE POLLS. WITHDRAWAL OF THE PETITIONS. IN ADDITION IT MAY BE WITHDRAWN ANYTIME PRIOR TO THE 15TH DAY PRECEDING THE DATE SCHEDULED BY FILING WITH THE CITY CLERK, A

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UPON THE FILING OF SUCH REQUEST THE PETITIONER HAS NO FURTHER EFFECT AND ALL PROCEEDINGS THEREON ARE TERMINATED. FINALLY SUB F, RELOOK TO TRACK THE RESULTS OF THE ELECTION.

IF THE MAJORITY VOTE IN THE FAVORITE THE ORDINANCE IS CONSIDERED ADOPTED AND THE RESULTS WILL BE TREATED IN ALL RESPECTS IN THE SAME MANNER AS ORDINANCE OF THE SAME TIME -- KIND. PROVIDED, THAT THE SAME MUST NOT BE AMENDED OR REPEALED EXCEPT BY A VOTE OF A SUPERB MAJORITY OF THE COMMISSION. IF CONFLICTING ORDINANCE ARE APPROVED, THE ONE RECEIVING THE GREATEST NUMBER OF AFFIRMATIVE VOTES SHALL PREVAIL.

THIS IS WHAT WE ARE ASKING FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION. THIS WAS IN THE POWERPOINT BUT

NOT THE ORDINANCE ITSELF. >> COMMISSIONER LEDNOVICH. THE ACTUAL SECTION ON CHANGING THE ELECTION FOR THE CANDIDATES IN EXPECTANCY BACK JUST RIGHT EVERYTHING IS FINE IF YOU AGREE TO CHANGES GROUP C. BECAUSE D WORDS IT DIFFERENTLY. THAT SPECIFIES, IT IS THE SAME.

SO SECTION C, THEY WANT TO PUT THREE CANDIDATES IN THE PRIMARY, THAT IS THE PROBLEM.

WE WOULD BE THE REPUBLICAN PRIMARY AND IF YOU ARE A DEMOCRAT WHO I KNOW I CAN VOTE IN THE REPUBLICAN PRIMARY. I ATTENDED THESE DISCUSSIONS WHEN THEY DEBATED IT.

VOTER TURNOUT THESE ARE NON- PARTISAN SEATS. AND THE REALITY IS, AND THE CITY USED TO DO THIS WAS TO HOLD ITS OWN ELECTION. I THINK IT WAS IN APRIL AND MARCH. THAT WAY IT IS NOT PARTISAN. IT IS PURE.

EVEN THE ELECTION YESTERDAY WAS PARTISAN. SORRY, IT IS.

YOU ARE TYING IT TO, PARTISAN RACES. SO THE ONLY WAY TO SOLVE THE PROBLEM IS TO HAVE OUR OWN ELECTION. KEEPING IT THE WAY IT IS, IS BETTER THAN CHANGING IT TO THIS SECTION D. SO I AGREE WITH MY FELLOW

COMMISSIONERS. I WILL NOT BE SUPPORTING THIS. >> COMMISSIONER ROSS?

>> I HAVE THREE CONCERNS. THE FIRST CONCERN IS THAT, HE SAID 15 BUT IT IS CLOSER TO 20 QUESTIONS. IF YOU PUT THIS TO A VOTE, I THINK IT WILL BE PROBLEMATIC BY THE TIME YOU GET TO THE INN. AND I DON'T KNOW HOW TO ADDRESS THAT.

I BRING IT UP AS AN ISSUE. I HAVEN'T REALLY COME UP WITH A SOLUTION.

NUMBER TWO, I DO AGREE WITH KREGER AND LEDNOVICH THAT BRINGING IT BACK TO THE PRIMARY, I DON'T THINK IT IS GOOD. BUT THE CLAIM THAT THE VOTER PARTICIPATION IS LESS, I THINK THAT'S NOT TRUE. AND IN THE GENERAL ELECTION, THE VOTING WAS 24% AND THE RUNOFF WAS 23%. IT WAS ABOUT THE SAME. WHICH IS NOTHING LIKE IT WAS YESTERDAY. SO I'M CLOSER DOING THAT BECAUSE I THINK THAT MAKES IT CONFUSING.

SO I AM OPPOSED TO THAT. THE THIRD ONE I AM OPPOSED TO OR CONCERNED ABOUT IS THE ONE THAT

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THE MAYOR REALLY DID A GOOD JOB AND, THE WEIGHT THIS IS SET UP, BECAUSE IT GOES EVERY OTHER

YEAR. I THIS IS. >> THIS IS GOOD BECAUSE IF SOMEONE ISN'T GOOD AT PROCLAMATIONS YOU ARE STUCK WITH THEM FOR TWO YEARS.

AND YOU CAN HAVE ONE PERSON WHO WOULD MAKE A GREAT MAYOR, AND THEY ARE EXCLUDED BECAUSE THEY WERE NOT IN THE POOL. I HAVE CONCERNS ABOUT THAT. OTHER THAN THAT, I THINK THAT'S

GOOD REASON. >> VICE MAYOR I SEE YOUR HANDS UP.

SINCE I THOUGHT THE MAYOR GOT A COMMENT THAT WAS INTERESTING. A GOOD POINT.

I THINK IT IS A GOOD IDEA. I'M MORE CONCERNED WITH, WITH THE INITIATIVE.

IT SOUNDS LIKE IT IS OKAY BUT I'M BEGINNING TO WONDER IF IT INVOLVES MORE.

COULD THEY HAVE AN INITIATIVE THAT REQUIRES FUNDING. >> AND IN THE BUDGETING PROCESS,

>> THE FACT THAT THEY HAVE ELECTED ALL OF YOU, YOU HAVE A BUDGET.

YOU HAVE TO APPROVE IT NO ONE CAN MAKE YOU APPROVE THE BUDGET. NOTHING SAYS IT IS A MANDATE.

AND WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT THAT. >> THIS IS HOW WE CONTROL IT. I NOTE THAT MS. DAVIS WANTED TO SPEAK WITH YOU. SHE WROTE THIS ACTION. I GIVE HER CREDIT FOR DOING THE WORK. I'M SURE SHE HAS SOMETHING TO SAY.

>> IS THERE A TIME LIMIT ON THIS. IS THERE A REASON WE'RE DOING THIS TONIGHT, IS THERE SOMETHING COMING UP. I'M HEARING A LOT OF QUESTIONS

AND DISCUSSIONS LIKE THERE'S A LOT TO BE DISCUSSED. >> WHAT I'M SAYING IS, IF THERE IS THIS MUCH MISUNDERSTANDING AND IT'S ALMOST 930 WE MAY WANT TO PUSH THIS TO ANOTHER DATE WHERE WE HAVE MORE RESEARCH. A LOT OF NEW THINGS ARE COMING UP ABOUT WHAT YOU SAID ABOUT FUNDING. THAT WE WERE NOT PUSHED FOR TIME.

SO THERE'S ALWAYS A MOTION TO SECOND ON THE TABLE. CAN WE CALL AND PUT THIS ON

ANOTHER AGENDA AND THE QUESTIONS CAN COME FORWARD. >>

>> IF YOU VOTED DOWN THERE'S NOTHING DIRECTING US. SO MAYBE A MOTION AFTER THAT THAT SAYS WHEN YOU WANT US TO DO IT. I SUBMIT THE DEADLINE HAS ALREADY PASSED. SO IT TO BE DECEMBER 1 OR DECEMBER 15.

>> NOT THAT THE NEW COMMISSIONERS ARE NOT DESERVING BUT IT IS SOMETHING TO THINK ABOUT. YOU DID THE WORK YOU APPOINTED THE COMMITTEE AND YOU WILL HAVE NEW COMMISSIONERS FLOATING ON THE CHARTER CHANGES. THEY MAY OR MAY NOT BE EDUCATED.

>> ONE WAS ON THE CHARTER REVIEW. >> THEN SHE IS EDUCATED PICTISH I WILL LET YOU GUYS DECIDE THIS ONE. I WILL CALL THE VOTE IF YOU WANT

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TO BUT WE DO NOT. >> ARE YOU REMOVING THE MOTION ON THE FLOOR OR WHAT ARE YOU

DOING CRACKS. >> CALL THE VOTE. >> I WOULD LIKE SECTION NINE

REMOVE. >> WITHOUT THE INITIAL PROVISIONS.

>> WILL CALL THE VOTE. >> THIS IS THE PARK AND RECREATION ADVISORY.

[11.1 PARKS AND RECREATION ADVISORY COMMITTEE]

>> REAPPOINTMENT. >> TO APPOINTMENTS. WHAT DID I SAY REPLACEMENT?

>> YES. >> I MOVE WE APPOINT WILLIAM NORIS, SAMUEL ROBERTS.

>> I AM A MOTION AND A SECOND PERIOD. >> YOU CANNOT ABSTAIN FROM PHONING. SHE IS NOT PAID FOR HER POSITION SO PLEASE DO BOTH.

I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE. >> CALLING THE BOAT. >> ITEM 12 CITY MANAGER REPORTS.

[12. CITY MANAGER REPORTS]

>> THANK YOU TO THE CANDIDATES. YOU'VE MADE A SACRIFICE AND A COMMITMENT TO SERVE.

VERY FEW OTHERS ARE WILLING TO TAKE THIS. THE CITY DID SUBMIT ITS SECOND SUB RECIPIENT AGREEMENT TO THE COUNTY FOR THE CARE ZACH. THAT IS DUE TO THE ASTUTENESS OF

MS. NEWTON. >> THE PAPERWORK FOR WE WILL HEAR MORE ABOUT THAT.

I RECEIVED A PHONE CALL THEY WILL CONSIDER THE JOINT MEETING. THIS IS TIME SO, YOU SHOULD BE GETTING E-MAILS FROM CITY STAFF ASKING YOU TO LOOK AT YOUR CALENDAR FOR JANUARY AND FEBRUARY. AND THE SHRIMP BOAT ELSEWHERE COMMITTEE WILL HAVE A SERIES OF VINTAGE ITEMS FOR SALE. I WILL BE ON FRIDAY. SO IF YOU WANT SOME VINTAGE

SHRIMP BOATS PARAPHERNALIA, SWING BY THIS FRIDAY. >> THE CITY MANAGER.

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>> HE WANTED TO DEDICATE THIS TO HER SON. THE ISSUE HERE,.

>> IF YOU WANT A DEDICATED BENCH AT THE MARINA OR THE PARK YOU GO THROUGH THE CITY.

AND SO, THIS MOTHER WAS TRYING TO GET A DEDICATED BENCH AND DID NOT KNOW WHO TO CALL.

AND ENDED UP CALLING AND GOT NO INITIAL RESPONSE. THEN WHEN ON FACEBOOK.

BUT WE HAVE BEEN DEALING WITH IT MOST OF TODAY. BUT WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO SUGGEST, ON DEDICATED BENCHES TO A BOARD -- AVOID THE CONFUSION WE HAVE ONE CONTACT POINT.

SO WE DON'T RUN INTO THIS AGAIN. THAT IS WHAT I WOULD RECOMMEND. >> I THINK, PART OF THE REASON THAT THEY TOOK OVER WAS, ARE THEY PART OF THE FUNDRAISER AND THAT IS THE ONLY COMPONENT OF THE PENSIONS THAT FALLS UNDER MAIN STREET. THE BENCHES EVERYWHERE ELSE FALL UNDER PARKS AND RECREATION. WITH THIS REQUEST, I THINK, THE ORIGINAL REQUEST MAY BE TO PLACE A BENCH BUT THEY HAVE PREVENTED MORE DUE TO THE ONGOING PROLIFERATION.

THEY HAVE TURNED DOWN DOZENS IF NOT CLOSE TO 100 REQUESTS FOR MEMORIAL BENCHES AT THE BEACH.

SO I KNOW THAT WORKING WITH MAIN STREET THEY DO HAVE AN INVENTORY OF WHERE THE BENCHES CAN GO DOWNTOWN BUT I HAVE ASKED THE STAFF, TO HAVE THIS DISCUSSION, AT THE NEXT MEETING, BUT THAT'S

TOO SHORT OF TIME, BUT AT THE DECEMBER MEETING. >> WHEN YOU WALK DOWN SOME OF THESE AREAS, THERE IS A LOT OF BENCHES THAT AT THIS POINT THEY BELIEVE THERE'S TOO MANY IN CERTAIN AREAS. IF YOU WANT TO GIVE MORE OF AN EXPIRATION THAT'S FINE BUT I

THINK WE HAVE IT FIGURED OUT. UNLESS YOU HAVE SOMETHING MORE. >> SHARE.

>> I HAVE A PHONE CALL FROM A WOMAN WHO WAS TOLD. >> I NEED YOUR NAME AND

INFORMATION. >> A WOMAN WAS GIVEN ERRONEOUS INFORMATION BY SOMEONE SHE SPOKE TO. BECAUSE THEY STOP HANDLING BENCHES AT ALL.

THE ONLY ONES THAT WERE HANDLED WERE MAINSTREAM. I WANT A WOMAN WHO WANTS TO DEDICATE A BENCH WERE SIGNED AT THE BEACH. SHE DOESN'T CARE WHERE.

SHE WANTS A BENCH. SHE DOESN'T WANT TO DO IT DOWNTOWN AND I WOULD HANDLE THAT IF SHE DID. SHE WANTED TO BE AT THE BEACH. RIGHT NOW OUR BELIEF IS, THAT IT CAN'T BE. I WOULD LOVE TO GET BACK TO THIS WOMAN, WITH AN ANSWER THAT SAYS

SHE CAN DO A BENCH AT THE BEACH. >> I WILL. >> IT IS JUST GOING TO TAKE TIME AND I WILL GLADLY BE IN CONVERSATION AND TAKE THE BALL, AND CONTINUE THE CONVERSATION

WITH THIS PERSON. >> CITY ATTORNEY. >> CITY CLERK.

[14. CITY CLERK REPORTS]

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AND FOR THOSE WHO NEED TO MARK YOUR CALENDAR IT WILL BE DECEMBER 15 AT 515.

>> THANK YOU. >> AND COMMISSIONER ROSS. >> A FEW THINGS.

[15. MAYOR/COMMISSIONER COMMENTS]

GOOD LUCK I HOPE YOU HAVE ANOTHER 25 YEARS. I WANTED TO POINT OUT, BUT I THINK WE LARK BEAT ME TOO IT, THE CONSERVATION AMENDMENT WAS GOOD.

AND FINALLY, I WOULD LIKE TO THANK EVERYONE WHO HELPED ME GET REELECTED.

I WISH TO THANK MY OPPONENT FOR ADDRESSING ISSUES THAT HAVE BEEN IGNORED.

AND IN LIGHT OF THAT, WE WILL THANK EVERYONE. >> THEY WILL WELCOME HEARING FROM YOU TO GET MEALS. I ALSO WANT TO THANK ANYONE WHO WAS INVOLVED IN THE ELECTION.

I ALSO WANT TO MAKE SURE I GIVE A SPECIAL THANKS TO SOMEONE WHOM YEAR AFTER YEAR MAKES THE PROCESS WORK SO SMOOTHLY. THAT IS THE CITY CLERK. HAVEN'T GONE THROUGH THE PROCESS OR MY WIFE WENT THROUGH THE PROCESS, MAKE SURE YOU CRUSHER TEASE AND DOCK YOUR EYES.

WE SIT APPEAR AND WE MAKE RULES FOR CODE ENFORCEMENT. ONE IS, POLITICAL SCIENCE.

YESTERDAY, I HAPPENED TO BE AT A POLLING PLACE WHEN A CODE ENFORCEMENT OFFICER CAME UP AND

THE POOR GUY, WAS VERBALLY BEAT ON. >> THIS WOMAN GOT HEATED BUT HE STAYED COOL AND CALM. SO MY HATS OFF TO CODE ENFORCEMENT PARTICULARLY ON

ELECTION DAY. >> THANK YOU. >> HE BEAT ME TO THE PUNCH.

AND WANTED TO RECOGNIZE CAROLINE'S CONTRIBUTION TO THE ELECTION.

THAT'S A LOT OF WORK WORK. WE KNOW WHAT IT ENTAILS PUTTING THIS TOGETHER.

WE STILL HAVE WORK TO DO. WE WILL PUT THE PEDAL TO THE METAL.

I WANT TO WELCOME RADLEY TO THE COMMISSION. CONGRATULATIONS.

CONGRATULATIONS TO COMMISSIONER ROSS. AND MY.

>> VICE MAYOR DR. FAUCI. >> I THINK THE CITY MANAGER IS WORKING AND WE HAVE AN

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OPPORTUNITY TO MAKE THE ACHIEVEMENT AWARDS. >> THIS IS WHERE THEY MAY FIT IN. I WOULD LIKE TO THANK THE CANDIDATES THAT ARE DRAWN.

WE AND A LOT OF PEOPLE. >> MAKE YOU SIR. >> I WANT TO CONGRATULATE THE WINNERS WHO WERE VICTORIOUS AND THE PEOPLE WHO THREW THEIR HAT IN THE RING.

WE SET IT OVER AND OVER AGAIN IT IS A DIFFICULT DECISION OF THE PROCESS IS TOUGH.

ESPECIALLY THOSE WHO DATED. THE THIRD TIME, YOU KNOW WHAT YOU ARE GETTING INTO.

I MADE A PHONE CALL SPIRIT WHEN YOU GET YOUR INFORMATION. THANK YOU FOR DOING THAT.

AND, I MET A NICE MAN. I MET A YOUNG MAN AND BRIAN, JUST GOT A PARCHMENTS -- BAT MITZVAH. HIS MOTHER WAS KIND ENOUGH TO BRING IN BIOPIC I HOPE I AM SAYING THIS RIGHT BUT BRYANT MUZZLE TALK.

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.