Oct 26, 2020 Marina Advisory Board

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CALL TO ORDER THE 26TH 2020. WE WILL NOW HAVE THE PRIVILEGE AND.

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>> CE] >> ROLL CALL PLEASE. >>.

>> TO ANSWER THE QUESTION IS A MAJORITY WE HAD FOUR OF THE SEVEN SENTENCES A REAL MEETING.

[4. APPROVAL OF MINUTES]

TO HAVE A LOOK AT THE MINUTES? WE HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE. >> I PROVE.

>> A SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR SAY. >> WE DON'T HAVE ANY PUBLIC

COMMENTS TONIGHT.. >> OLD BUSINESS. >> WE HAVE 6.1 WHICH IS RIVER

[6.1 Amelia River Waterfront]

>>. >> I'M MIKE FROM 1586 CANOPY DRIVE.

THE PUBLIC PORTAL IS ED AND IT CLOSED ON THE 18TH. THE RESULTS ARE IN.

I POSTED THOSE ON FACEBOOK TO SEVERAL DIFFERENT PAGES. IF YOU WANT TO SEE THE RESULTS YOU CAN. THE NEXT STEP IS ON THE CITY COMMISSION OF THE FOURTH MEETING. MARQUIS LATIMER WILL DO A PRESENTATION ON THE RESULTS.

THERE WERE I WANT TO SAY ABOUT 70 TO 75 COMMENTS. PEOPLE WHO PARTICIPATED AND THEN THERE WAS A SURVEY FROM ONE HEART TO THREE HEARTS IF YOU FORGET.

THOSE RESULTS WILL COME BEFORE US. COMMISSIONERS ONLY HAVE THEIR COMMENTS AND THEN THEY WILL BE KIND OF A.. A THIRTY-DAY PERIOD WHERE WE JUST KIND OF LET THINGS PERCOLATE. AND THEN OF COURSE WE HAVE THE ELECTION. WE WILL BE SENDING SOME NEW COMMISSIONERS AND THEY WILL GO

OVER THERE DESIGN. THOSE ARE THE NEXT STEPS. >> THERE WILL BE A

PRESENTATION ON 4 NOVEMBER. >> CORRECT. >> THERE WON'T BE ANY MOTIONS

APPROVED. >> THAT'S RIGHT. IT'S WITH THE NEW COMMISSION

AND IT LOOKS LIKE THEY WILL MAKE IT. >> THAT'S CORRECT.

THAT IS EXACTLY CORRECT. DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? >> SUMMIT HE MADE A COMMENT IN RESPONSE TO THE SURVEY. ONE OF THE OPTIONS OR NONE OF THE ABOVE WERE THERE.

IT'S LIKE WHICH COLOR DO YOU LIKE RED OR BLUE? THE QUESTION IS I DON'T WANT YOU TO WORRY SO FOR ME IN MY MIND THAT SHOULD ALWAYS BE EVERY QUESTION.

YOU ARE LEADING THE PERSON ON THE QUESTIONNAIRE WITH WHICH WE WANT TO GO.

I AGREE WITH YOU BECAUSE WHEN YOU LOOK TO HAVE THE AGGREGATE SCORES OF THE DIFFERENT COMPONENTS I THINK THE LOWEST RATE IS HERE. YOU ESSENTIALLY HAVE A SCALE OF 1 TO 3. THE LOWEST RATED COMPONENT WAS 1.9. I DON'T LIKE THIS.

SO YES. WE WILL TALK TO THEM. >> IN THE FUTURE WHEN YOU HAVE ANY KIND OF QUESTIONNAIRE OR SURVEY YOU ALWAYS WANT TO GIVE THE OPTION OF I DON'T LIKE IT

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NOTHER ONE BEING ING THAT THERE WERE A COUPLE PEOPLE WHO COMMENTED THREE OR FOUR TIMES.

YOU CAN HAVE THE ABILITY TO COMMENT BUT ALSO TAKE THE SURVEY.

THE QUESTION I HAVE IS TO TAKE THE SURVEY BEFORE TIMES. PTHE OTHER FLAW THAT I SAW WAS ANYBODY CAN COMMENT. YOU DON'T HAVE TO BE A CITY RESIDENT.

WE WILL DIGEST THAT STUFF. >> WHAT ARE YOU THINKING IN THE SURVEY? I DIDN'T GET INVOLVED IN THE SURVEY BUT ANYWAY. YOU DEFINITELY PUT IT IN AN EMAIL. IT'S THE LIMIT WHERE THESE PEOPLE PUT IN STUFF IT'S AN

ADDRESS IN THE CITY. IT WOULDN'T OF BEEN ACCEPTED. >> HE DID HAVE TO PUT IT IN AN EMAIL. THAT WAS THE REQUIREMENT. AS FAR AS WHERE YOU LIVED NOW.

>> THANK YOU SIR. >> ANY DISCUSSION? >> WE WILL MOVE ON TO 6.2.

[6.2 Channel Update]

IT'S A $4.6 MILLION OPERATION. THAT IS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE CHANNEL.

>> WE IN THE COAST GUARD WENT OUT TO SURVEY THE AREA. IN THE SURVEY WE FOUND ONE DISCREPANCY WHICH WAS AWARE OF AND THEY ARE FIXING THAT. THAT WAS SUBMITTED UP TO THE COAST GUARD AND WE WILL DO A REINSPECTION AS SOON AS WE FIND OUT THE DISCREPANCIES.

THAT'S WAY TO MOVE ON WITH THAT. >> THE FEMA UPDATE.

[6.3 FEMA Update]

STANDS? >> THEY SAY THAT WE ARE RIGHT. >> TYPICALLY FROM WHAT I READ THEY WILL TURN IT DOWN AND RESUBMIT AGAIN. I WENT TO THE SECOND PHASE OF

SUBMISSIONS? >> IT'S WHERE THE STATE OF FLORIDA BEGINS AND IT'S WITH

THE CITY ANALYSIS. >> I DID NOT READ THAT SO THAT'S A GOOD SIGN.

>> THAT CAN'T HURT. >> IT SOUNDS LIKE THE CONGRESSMAN HAS A LOT TO DO.

I DON'T KNOW IF HE IS DIRECTLY INVOLVED. I'M SURE HE IS.

>> THOSE OF THE NUMBERS THERE. IF WE GET SOMEONE CLOSE THAT IT WILL BE HELPFUL I'M SURE.

>> ANY MORE DISCUSSION ON THE FEET? >> ALRIGHT.IX POINT FOUR.

[6.4 Marina Projects Updates]

>> THAT'S MARINA UPDATES. >> WAS GOOD IN PROJECT UPDATE. ANYONE HAVE ANY UPDATE ON THIS?

>> I DON'T HAVE UPDATES BUT I HAVE SOME QUESTIONS. WITH SOME OF THE ANSWERS THAT ARE PROVIDED AND I BELIEVE KATHY HAS BACKED UP DATA. I GUESS FROM THE COMMISSIONER STANDPOINT ARE YOU WILLING TO ACCEPT IT THE WAY IT IS? OR DO YOU FEEL A PUNCH LIST LIST PURSUIT? AND TAKEN INTO SOME SORT OF RESOLUTION? IT MAY JUST BE THAT SEND ME THE ANSWER MAY BE ACCEPTABLE AND I WOULD LIKE TO SEE ADDED TO IT AND THAT IS ON THE NORTHERN LATER. IT WAS TO THE LEFT SIDE ON THE

NORTHERN END. SOMEBODY WIFE. >> THE NORTHERN CONTINUE LATER

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THE PUBLIC AND HAVE TO HAVE A DIME ON THERE TO TAKE A LOOK. WE GO THROUGH THESE LIKE A CODING SITUATION. THE COATING IS NOT DESIGNED SO IT COLLECTS BARNACLES.

WE GO OUT THERE AND CHECK THE BARNACLES AND IT TAKES THE WHOLE COATING OFF.

THAT'S CAN EXPOSE A STEEL PIPE. IS THAT ACCEPTABLE? TO ME IT'S NOT.

I THINK ONE OF THE SUGGESTIONS I WOULD DO IS GET THEIR TECH REP TO TAKE A LOOK AT IT BECAUSE I THINK IT MAY BE IN THE PROCESSING OF HOW THEY PREPARED TO PUT THE COATING OUT. IN OTHER WORDS IF CERTAIN BLAST PROFILES AND YOU HAVE TO CLEAN IT TO GET THE SALT OFF OF IT. WAS THAT DONE? WOULD SUGGEST BRINGING IN A TECH REP FROM SHERMAN WILLIAMS TO TELL US WHETHER PRODUCTS ARE LIKE THIS. THAT'S WHAT I WOULD'VE DONE IN

THIS BUSINESS SITUATION. >> FIRST AND FOREMOST IT'S THEIR PRODUCT.

>> IT'S THE PRODUCT THEY DID NOT ACTUALLY APPLY FOR IT. >> HERE'S WHAT I ASKED THE QUESTION BECAUSE IF YOU GO TO SHERWIN-WILLIAMS AND ASKED TO BE PROVIDED FOR MARINE PAINT THE ANSWER IS NO THEY DO NOT DO GREEN PAINT. IF YOU GO TO SHERMAN WILLIAMS OVER AT KINGS BAY THERE'S A 55 GALLON FULL OF MARINE PAINT BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT THE NAVY

AND THE COAST GUARD DOES. >> THIS IS A CODING. MY POINT IS IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN A CODING THAT WAS PROTECTED BY IT. I DON'T THINK HE THOUGHT ABOUT

THAT AT THE TIME. >> I THINK WHAT WE NEED TO DO IS FIND OUT WHY SO THEY WILL STRING IF WE HAVE A PROBLEM. IF WE ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR FIXING IT AND WE'RE GOING TO ACCEPT IT THAT WAY. I WOULD THINK THE WARRANT IS CAN I RUN OUT PRETTY QUICK.

>> THE OTHER OPTION WAS A SLEEVE WHICH YOU SHOULDN'T HAVE TO DO BUT THAT MAY BE HOW YOU HAVE TO FIX IT. STYROFOAM. IF I READ HER RATIONALE IT'S BASICALLY HAVING SOMEBODY OUT HERE VACUUMING THAT STYROFOAM EVERYDAY.

THAT'S WHAT I'M READING HERE BASICALLY. I DON'T KNOW IF OASIS SIGNED UP FOR THAT. WE HAVE STYROFOAM GUMMING IN THE SYSTEM OUT THERE.

ANYTIME THE LOW TIDE SHOWS UP WE HAVE BEADS. WE WORRY ABOUT PREP PLASTIC STRAWS AND HERE WE ARE PUTTING STYROFOAM OUT THERE. TO ME THAT'S NOT ACCEPTABLE.

I DON'T KNOW THE WAY IT IS BUT MY UNDERSTANDING IS PURE 66 HAS THE SAME PROBLEM AND THEY WOUND UP THREATENING TO SUE. I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE RESOLUTION WAS.

I MAY BE WRONG ABOUT THAT. DOWN TO THE SIDE WE ARE CURRENTLY ALREADY COMING IN ON THE SOUTHERN END AND LIKE WHEN TONY MAKES TURN AT LOW TIDE HE RUNS THE GROUND.

I HAVE A SOLUTION I THINK WOULD WORK. IT'S PROBABLY CUSHION I SHOULDN'T SAY IT IN HERE BUT WE NEED TO START SPOTTING THE VENUE DOCK WITH BIGGER BOATS ON THE SOUTHERN END SO THAT THEY HAVE TO MAKE A PASS THROUGH THERE.

THAT MAKES UP SOME OF THAT. THEY MIGHT STIR UP SHE'S IN THE PROCESS.

I WAS HOPING THE PROJECT MANAGEMENT IN THE CITY MANAGER WILL BE HERE TO GIVE A STATUS ON THESE. I WOULD PREFER TO LEAVE THEM ON HERE AND CONTINUE UNTIL WE GET SOMEBODY TO SAY HEY, WE ACCEPT THAT THE WAY IT IS AND WE ARE KNOCKING TO GO BACK ON THE

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AND THEN DOWN TO THE FIELD BOX OBVIOUSLY LET'S TALK ABOUT THAT.

THAT'S THE MAIN REST REVENUE STREAMS AND WE BEEN DOING THAT FOR YEARS.

>> LET'S GET A LITTLE BIT OF AN UPDATE ON THAT. >> IMAC AT 1586.

ON THE REPLACEMENT OF THE SEAL LINES ORDINARILY THE CITY PROCESS WOULD BE THAT WE WOULD BRING THAT UP TO BED BECAUSE WE'RE TALKING $200,000 PLUS DEPENDING ON WHO WE GO WITH.

UNDER EMERGENCY PURCHASING WHICH THE CITY CAN DECLARE THIS IS AN EMERGENCY.

WE CAN BYPASS THE BIDDING PROCESS AND GO DIRECTLY TO THE VENDOR.

THAT WILL EXPEDITE THE FUEL LINE REPLACEMENT REPAIR AND SAVE US TWO MONTHS.

THE CITY MANAGER INDICATED TO ME THAT IF WE TOOK THAT ACTION A WEEK FROM TUESDAY, NOT TOMORROW BUT NEXT TUESDAY THAT PROBABLY THOSE FELINES WOULD BE IN BY DECEMBER.

IF WE HAD TO GO THE BID ROUTE IT WOULD BE THE BID NOT AWARDED PROBABLY UNTIL MID FEBRUARY.

WE WILL GAIN A COUPLE OF MONTHS HERE BY DOING THAT. >> I THINK THE CITY MANAGER HAS A PRETTY GOOD GRASP ON WHO IS CAPABLE OF DOING IT AND WHAT THE FIX SHOULD BE.

>> SHE'S BEEN DIRECTLY INVOLVED WITH THE CONVERSATIONS I'VE HAD WITH HER.

SHE SEEMS TO BE VERY UP TO SPEED WITH WHAT'S GOING ON. >> SHE'S THE PROJECT MANAGER AT THIS POINT. I FEEL COMFORTABLE WITH HER OVERSEEING THIS.

IT MAKES MY LIFE SO MUCH EASIER. >> THAT'S EXACTLY CORRECT.

YOU GUYS ARE THE MARINE ADVISORY BOARD. I WILL JUST TALK FOR MY COMMISSIONERS. YOU GUYS ARE THE EXPERTS AND USE THE MARINA.

YOU ARE THERE EVERY DAY SO WHEN WE HAVE A PUNCH LIST I ALWAYS SUGGEST THAT YOU WRITE AN EMAIL TO THE CITY MANAGER AND COPY KATHY. YOU HAVE A PUNCH LIST WITH WHAT THE SOLUTIONS ARE AND ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU HAVE, THIS PUNCHLIST THAT NEEDS TO BE DONE. YOU ARE ADVISING US AND THAT'S WHAT I'M LOOKING FOR BECAUSE OTHERWISE ROSS AND I WILL LEAVE HERE AND EVERYTHING YOU'VE SAID NOT BE COMMUNICATED.

SO THAT WHEN WE TAKE OUR SEATS ON THE BOARD WHAT YOU SAID IN THIS ROOM, NONE OF US HAVE CAPTION. ACTUALLY TOOK THE CITY MANAGER DOWN HERE.

PLEASE PUT IT IN WRITING. PLEASE PUT THE PUNCHLIST AS A MARINE ADVISORY BOARD.

THAT'S CAN'T SEIZE KATHY'S RESPONSES. SHE HAS THE ISSUES EXCEPT FOR THE NEW ONE THAT WE JUST PULLED OUT SHE'S AWARE OF THAT BUT I DON'T KNOW IF ANYTHING HAS BEEN

DONE. >> JUST HAVE THE CHAIR RIGHT TO THE CITY MANAGER.

A FOLLOW-UP FROM THIS MEETING IS WHAT I WOULD DO. >> I'LL BE HONEST WITH YOU.

I'VE ALWAYS TRIED TO AVOID BEING TOO CRITICAL OF THE MARINA BECAUSE I DIDN'T WANT TO

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>> KNOW, WE HAVE NOT. >> THIS MIGHT BE THE TIME TO GET THAT LIKE SCOTT SAYS FORE.

BEFORE THE CITY SIGNS OFF TOTALLY WE CAN MAKE IT SIMPLE COMMENTS TO THE MANAGER ABOUT THINGS WE SEE. IT'S ACCEPTABLE TO THE CITY AND AT THE END OF IT.

I UNDERSTAND THAT BY HAVING YOUR ADVICE, CURRENT MISSIONARY ROSS IS AT THE MARINA EVERY DAY. HE'S ON TOP OF THAT BUT THERE ARE FOR .

WHEN SOMEONE SAYS PUNCHLIST THAT WE CANNOT LET THIS GO? DOES IT NEED TO BE FIXED? I NEED TO RECOMMENDATION. WHEN THE CITY MANAGER SAID THAT THE REPORT I CAN SAY WELL, HERE'S THE THING. WHAT ARE WE DOING PUNCHLIST? WE'D LIKE TO SEE COMMISSIONERS ASKING PACIFIC LAND TALK TO THE ITEMS OF THE PUNCHLIST TELL ME THE STATUS ON EACH ITEM.

THAT SHOULD BE RECOMMENDATION. >> THANK YOU. >> YOU WANT TO DISCUSS IT?

>> ONE, SHOULD BE MADE ON THE. THE QUESTIONS CAME UP FROM SCOTT REGARDING THE FINANCES.

KATHY SUBMITTED THAT AS A RECORDS REQUEST AND I WAS GIVEN AN EMAIL BY THE CITY CLERK LETTING ME KNOW THAT THAT WAS GOING TO TAKE OVER EIGHT HOURS OF TIME AND WOULD COST US

HUNDRED AND $98 AND WE WOULD LIKE TO PURSUE THOSE ANSWERS. >> WHEN I'M LOOKING FOR AND MAYBE COMMISSIONERS CAN COMMENT ON THIS. I'M LOOKING FROM A VARIANCE FROM START TO FINISH OF HOW OVERRUNNING COSTS, WHAT PERCENTAGE.

THAT'S WHAT I'M LOOKING FOR. I DON'T NEED THE DETAILS. I'M LOOKING AT A SCHEDULE FROM START TO FINISH. MY NEXT QUESTION IS. IF YOU SEE THE CERTAIN PERCENTAGE THAN IT HAS TO COME BACK TO THE COMMISSIONER FOR SPECIAL REVIEW ON WHATEVER.

IF NOT WE EXCEED BY 200 OR 300% IS THAT ACCEPTABLE? I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE SAYING IS I'M NOT SAYING WE SEE THAT. BUT I DON'T KNOW IF THE COMMISSION HAS SOME SORT OF

PERCENTAGE. >> THIS WAS NOT DONE ON THE CONTRACT.

IT WAS DONE AS A FOREIGN ONE VOTE AND A DESIGNED BILL. AS IT WAS BEING BUILT WAS BEING DESIGNED. THE NUMBER YOU'RE ASKING FOR IS PROBABLY NOT HERE.

>> IT'S MY OWN. EDUCATION OF THE ME ASK A DIFFERENT QUESTION.

IF THIS IS NOT A DESIGNED BILL BUT IT IS A CONTRACT IS THEIR RULE IN PLACE THAT SAYS IF YOU EXCEED A CERTAIN PERCENT THEN READ FLEX GO OFF WITH BELLS AND WHISTLES.

>> DEPENDS ON THE AMOUNT OR TYPE OF CONTRACT? >> OKAY THANK YOU.

>> I THINK MAYBE EACH OF US HAS A COMMISSION WITH BOARD MEMBERS.

IF THERE'S SOMETHING WE SEE AND IT RUNS INTO THE CITY MANAGER NOW AS QUICK AS POSSIBLE.

YOU HAVE A LIST THERE ALREADY. >> THERE NICE TO BE A PUBLISHED PUNCHLIST.

SOMETHING THAT EVERYBODY HAS ACCESS TO ON A PORTAL OR WEBSITE.

IT SAYS HERE'S THE THINGS THAT WE STILL HAVE LEFT TO COMPLETE ON THIS PROJECT TO FINISH IT.

AND THEN WE WORK ON THAT AND GET IT RESOLVED. THAT'S HOW YOU FINALIZE A

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PROJECT. >> IF YOU NOTICE ANYTHING NOT ON THE PUNCHLIST YOU ADDED.

>> USED TO HAVE TIME TO WORK ON IT. >> IT'S RIGHT OFF THE BAT LISTING. THERE NEEDS TO BE AN OFFICIAL LIST AND THAT'S NORMALLY HELD

WITH THE PROJECT MANAGEMENT TEAM. >> I JUST WANT TO MAKE A COMMENT ABOUT THAT. AS YOU KNOW WE RAN A CONSTRUCTION COMPANY.

WE BUILT FIRE STATIONS AND CITY HALLS AND COURT HOUSES. WHAT SCOTT IS TALKING ABOUT HIS RETENTION. IS GENERALLY IN A CONSTRUCTION CONTRACT YOU HAVE RETENTION.

THAT'S 10% OF THE TOTAL CONTRACT THAT IS WITHHELD UNTIL THE PUNCHLIST IS COMPLETED.

NOW BECAUSE THIS IS A DESIGNED BILL I AM NOT SURE THAT THAT RETENTION, I DON'T KNOW.

BUT I WILL MAKE A NOTE TO MYSELF. >> YOU STILL HAVE INDIVIDUAL

CONTRACTS. >> ABSOLUTELY. >> THAT SHOULD'VE BEEN A HOLDS

BACK. >> ABSOLUTELY. I UNDERSTAND.

IT'S 10% BECAUSE THAT'S THE PROJECT MARGIN. >> CONSTRUCTION COMPANIES DO

NOT WANT TO GIVE UP THEIR 10%. >> I'M NOT SO MUCH WORRIED ABOUT THE HOLDBACK AT THIS POINT. I'M WORRIED ABOUT GIVING THE MARINA FIX SO THAT WE ARE NOT 10 YEARS TALKING ABOUT STYROFOAM DETERIORATION PROBLEMS.

>> I AGREE. NOW WE'RE LOOKING AT MAJOR COST TO REPAIR.

>> A PUNCH LIST SHOULD BE TAKEN CARE OF BEFORE WE PAY THE MONEY.

>> IN REALITY IT'S NOT OASIS. >> THAT'S RIGHT. THEY HAVE TO BE TOTALLY AWARE

OF ANY DEFICIENCIES. >> THEY ARE UNDER CONTRACT TO MAINTAIN THE MARINA.

TO GET A POSITION WHERE THEY TOOK POSSESSION IS IMPORTANT. >> THINK YOU.

>> OKAY, NEXT AGENDA ITEM WILL BE THIS FIELD. I THINK YOU HAD A LITTLE BIT OF

[6.5 Mooring Field]

HAND ON THIS RECENTLY SIMPLY SURE THIS WE FOUND. >> EVERYTHING WE FOUND THIS WE LOOKED AT THE BARRIER. WE MARK EACH AND EVERY ONE OF THEM BECAUSE THEY HAVE NEITHER OF THE TIME IS AT THAT POINT. THERE'S ONE OF THEM IN PARTICULAR THAT HAS A SHORT HALL ON IT. I CAN TELL YOU WHICH ONE IT IS. AND ANOTHER ONE THE GUYS TIED WITH THE PHOTO. THERE'S A SAILBOAT TIED UP TO ONE OF THEM.

AT LEAST THAT WAY HE KNOWS IS NOT A DRAG. BUT THE OTHER ISSUE WAS THAT ALTHOUGH OF THEM HAVE TO BE LETTERED. THEY HAVE TO BE ON EACH ONE AND IS NOT A LETTER ON THEM AND THAT WAS THE ONLY DISCREPANCY THAT WE FOUND.

WE SUBMIT THE REPORT BACK TO JOE AND THEN WE DO RESCHEDULE ON THAT TOO.

WE ALSO WENT OVER THE STUDY. THE HISTORICAL STUDY AND IT'S VERY IN DEPTH.

IT'S ALSO INTERESTING TO REALIZE THAT YOU PUT THE FIELD RIGHT WHERE THE RIVER IS GOING TO BE. THE RIVER IS GOING TO BE INSTEAD OF MAKING A TURN AND COMING DOWN EVENTUALLY GO STRAIGHT ACROSS BECAUSE IT'S ONLY GETS DEEPER WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE HEIGHT IT'S GONNA COME DOWN IN THE BELL RIVERS GONNA COME RIGHT DOWN TOWARDS THE FRIEND IN A MARINA. INSTEAD OF MAKING THAT COVER ON ITS GONNA COME STRAIGHT ACROSS.

IT'S INTERESTING TO SEE THAT YOU ARE IN THE MIDDLE OF IT. IT'S KIND OF INTERESTING THAT

IT'S GONNA BLOCK WHERE THE RIVER WILL EVENTUALLY BE. >> HOW LONG WILL IT TAKE FOR THAT DYNAMIC TO CONFIRM? BASED ON HURRICANES WITH THE FLOW.

YOU CAN SEE DYNAMICALLY WHERE IT WILL EVENTUALLY GO. IT WILL CUT OFF BASICALLY GOING FOR YOU HERE WITH THE FEDERAL CHANNEL. IT'S INTERESTING TO STUDY.

OTHER THAN THAT I'M STILL WORKING ON GETTING IT. IT'S A FEDERAL CHANNEL SOUTH OF NUMBER 10 AND GET IT TO BE ESTABLISHED. OTHER THAN THAT NOTHING NEW.

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>>. >> THE CITY GET BACK TO GET FUNDING AND USE CLARIFICATION.

WE DETERMINED THAT IT CAN BE USED FOR THAT AND THEN THERE WAS NO SENSE TO GOD AND LOCATE SOMETHING THAT WAS GOING TO BE TAKEN UP AND RELOCATED IN. WE SAVE THE CITY MONEY BY PUTTING SOMETHING IN NOW AND WE PULLED BACK OUT. THIS TIME A YEAR THEY ARE NOT

THAT HAVE THE USE ONLY START TRANSIENT. >> HOW MANY ARE FUNCTIONING?

>> THE FUTURE FIELD HAS ANOTHER PROJECT. >> THE DESIGN WORK HAS BEEN COMPLETED AND THEY'VE BEEN COMPLETED WITH THE EXCEPTION OF THE TIME THAN STARTING TO WORK ON IT. THAT'S WHERE THE CITY IS NOW JUST WAITING TO GET COMMENTS TO COME BACK AND THEY'RE NOT ANTICIPATING THAT THE CITY MAKE COMMENTS.

>> I'M TOTALLY AWARE OF THIS BUT WHERE THE RIVER ENTERS THE MILLION THAT WAS HERE.

THE ORIGINAL RIVER WENT UP WHERE THE DOG PARK IS. I DON'T EVEN THINK LIKE THAT.

WHEN YOU MESS RUN WITH MOTHER NATURE THINGS JUST HAPPEN.> MOTHER NATURE WAS CONTINUED ANYWAY. THE STORM COULD'VE OPENED UP EASILY.

THAT'S THE WAY IT USUALLY HAPPENS. >> OKAY, 6.6.

[6.6 RFP 202020]

THE RFP 2020 Ã20. >> HAVE YOU GOT THE UPDATE. >> MY UNDERSTANDING OF

AUTHORITY NEGOTIATED. >> IT IS CONCLUDED IS WHAT I HEARD.

>> IT'S JUST NOT BLESSED BY THE COMMISSION AT THIS POINT. I HAVE SUGGESTIONS FOR THEM.

THE MANAGEMENT AGREEMENT IS ON PAGE 4, FIVE AND EIGHT. YES THE SIMILE MANAGER TO PUT SOME LIMITATIONS ON THE DOCKET INSTEAD OF JUST GIVING THEM CARTE BLANCHE.

>> WHAT SECTION ARE YOU ON? > PAGE 4 OF THE LEASE EXCUSE ME.

THE MANAGEMENT AGREEMENT. >> THE RENTING OF THE MARINA. >> IT'S CHANGED.

>> IS HIGHLIGHTED THERE FOR YOU. >> IT DOESN'T HAVE ANYTHING TO DO ABOUT IT SO THEY COULD SET IT BASED ON FEAR AND MARKETABLE RATES.

>> WE DON'T HAVE THE CITY BUDGET APPROVED. >> THEY GAVE THEM THE ABILITY TO CHANGE. AND THEY WANT TO FOR THE VARIABLE TRANSIENT RATE SITUATION THAT THEY HAD REQUESTED WHICH IS A GOOD IDEA. I'M NOT FIGHTING THAT.

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17 ANY PAGE 14. >> THEY NEED TO SOMETHING WITH PREVENTATIVE MAINTENANCE.

THERE'S A PREVENTATIVE MAINTENANCE SCHEDULE. >> I WOULD NOT.

I WAS SUGGESTING AT THE LANGUAGE THAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO SEE.

THE SAME THING WITH THE SLIP RENTAL. WHAT IS THE LANGUAGE YOU WOULD LIKE TO SEE INSERTED IN THAT SPECIFIC SECTION? THAT WILL AGAIN HELP THEM MAKE THEIR DECISION. HERE'S THE RECOMMENDATIONS ON THIS CONTRACT.

YOU'RE TELLING ME WHAT CONCERNS YOU, NOW GIVE ME THE LANGUAGE WHICH ADDRESSES YOUR CONCERN.

>> SECTION BY SECTION. >> IT'S GENERALIZATION BUT PROBABLY NOT LEGAL AGE.

>> JUST GIVE ME THE GENERAL TRUST OF WHAT IT IS. >> I CAN SEND IT TO YOU ON EMAIL?> WE CAN HAVE A DISCUSSION ABOUT IT TONIGHT. THOSE TWO ITEMS THAT YOU JUST MENTIONED WOULD BE THE PREVENTATIVE MAINTENANCE AND THE MAINTENANCE SCHEDULE.

I LIVE BY MAINTENANCE SCHEDULES. >> A PREVENTATIVE MAINTENANCE

SCHEDULE. >> AND PREVENTATIVE MAINTENANCE SCHEDULE.

I CAN CHANGE THINGS OUT THAT ARE BROKEN BECAUSE THEY WILL BREAK AND I KNOW WHAT THE LIFESPAN IS IF I CHANGE IT BEFORE THEY BROKE IT. PREVENTATIVE MAINTENANCE WOULD

BE HERE. I WOULD SAY THOSE OF THE TWO. >> UNDER SECTION I OR WHATEVER

THAT IS IT WOULD BE EXHIBIT A WHICH IS THE BACKUP. >> ASSUMING I HAVE THE

SEMI-LATEST VERSION HERE. >> IT'S REALLY CLOSE. >> WE NEED TO STRESS THAT PART

OF IT IS WHAT I'M TRYING TO EXPRESS HERE TODAY. >> I WILL TELL YOU WHAT SCOTT.

LET'S LOOK BACK AT THAT RENTAL AND AN MARINA SLIP SPACE. WITH THE PRICING FOR THAT.

THAT WAS ITEM NUMBER FIVE. >> THAT'S 58 ON PAGE 4. >> ITEM NUMBER FIVE AND THAT GIVES OASIS THE ABILITY TO SET THE RATES BY EVERYTHING. I THINK THEY SHOULD ONLY BE

ABLE TO SET THE TRANSIENT RATES. >> I THINK THAT'S THE

TERMINOLOGY. >> THE REST OF THE STUFF SHOULD BE SET BY COMMISSIONS

AND A RATE SCHEDULE. >> WE DON'T HAVE THE CURRENT CONTRACT.

>> THAT'S NOT THE CURRENT CONTRACT. >> WHERE IS IT THAT THEY CAN ACCESS IT?> THEY PROBABLY DON'T. I'M SURE WE DIDN'T GET IT BECAUSE IT'S PROBABLY JUST DONE. WHERE WE COMMENTING ON IT.

ASK OUR CONCERN AND THE SAVON THAT I KNOW OF ARE CONCERNED ABOUT RATE INCREASES THAT GO WILLY-NILLY. I HAVE STOOD WITH THE ARGUMENT THAT WHEN THEY HAVE A TRANSIENT

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MONEY AS WE CAN. >> THERE'S NOTHING WRONG WITH IT.

THE QUESTION IS ARE THOSE FLUCTUATING RATES THAT WE ARE GIVING A CHANCE TO DO THAT WILLY-NILLY WILL NOT, SHOULD ONLY BE FOR TRANSIENTS NOT FOR THE PERMANENT SLIP HOLDERS?

I THINK THAT'S WHERE WE WOULD LIKE TO BE. >> OR SOME KIND OF STABILITY

FOR PEOPLE THAT RUN BUSINESSES. >> IT'S HARD TO MAKE PLANS FOR THE FUTURE IF OUR RATES GO UP.

WHAT COULD HAPPEN WITH THIS IS OASIS COULD INCREASE OUR RATES AND RUN US OFF DURING TRANSIENT SEASON. THAT WAY THEY CAN FILL THE SLIPS WITH THE REQUIRED DOLLAR OF VOTES WE CAN OPERATE ONLY DURING SLOW SEASONS. IT'S A POSSIBILITY.

>> YOU ARE LOCKED INTO A RATE. AM I NOT CORRECT? >> NO I AM NOT.

>> THE CONTRACT SAYS WE GO WITH THE RATES THAT ARE SET. THEIR MARKET RATES.

>> I HAVE TO GO WITH THE FLOW. I'M REQUIRED TO DO THAT. THE QUESTION IS HOW MUCH OF THE MARINA SHOULD BE DESIGNATED AS TRANSIENT SLIPS AVAILABLE? I THINK THE ATTENUATORS KIND OF

WHAT EVERYONE THINKS. IT SHOULD BE TRANSIENT. >> IS A 6040?

>> ASKED THIS QUESTION. >> THE QUESTION IS ONE PERCENTAGES TRANSIENT AND WENT

PERCENTAGE CAN BE PRINTED? THOSE ARE THE TWO QUESTIONS. >> AND AFTER THE FACT THEY WANT TO CHANGE IT BECAUSE I ASKED AN EARLY PRESENTATION WHEN THEY CAME IN TO DO THIS MARKETING PRESENTATION. ASK THAT SPECIFIC QUESTION AND HE SAID 7525.

TOLD ME RIGHT THEN YOU LOSE SOME POINTS. I WANT TO KNOW IN MY NEXT QUESTION BEHIND THAT IS HOW ARE THEY GOING TO SELECT IT TO GET SWITCHED? DOES THAT HELP BUSINESS OWNERS ASSUMING THAT'S THE ONES THAT GET CHANGED? THAT'S THE REASON WHY WANT TO SEE IT LOCKED-IN WITH LIMITATIONS PUT ON WHAT THEY CAN'T AND CANNOT DO. THAT'S WHEN I ASKED THE CITY MANAGER THE LAST MEANING WHEN HE WAS HERE. HE TOOK THE ADVICE AND SAYS WE CAN DO IT.

HE REALLY DIDN'T ANSWER. >> THE POINT IS BEING THEY JUST NEED TO GO BACK AND LOOK AT IT. IF YOU DECIDE THAT'S WHAT YOU NEED TO DO THAN FINE.

I'M JUST BRINGING UP POINTS BECAUSE WE CAN'T REALLY DO ANYTHING HERE ANYWAY.

>> OTHER THAN SUGGEST. >> THIS WEEK YOU MAKE THAT DECISION.

I DON'T THINK WHAT WE ARE ASKING IS UNREASONABLE BY ANY MEANS.

>> DINO AT THE ATTENUATOR ONE PERCENTAGE OF THE SLIPS ARE ON THERE?

>> WE HAVE TO BREAK IT DOWN IN A LINEAR FEET BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE SLIPS.

IT'S 50 FEET GOING ONE WAY AND IT'S ROUGHLY TIMES TWO. HE PROBABLY HAVE 35% ALMOST 45% OF THE SLIPS ON THAT DOCK. IT'S AVAILABLE IN YOUR FOOTAGE. THAT WOULD BE 35 TO 40% OF THE

TOTAL AVAILABLE. >> I THINK AT SOME POINT WE PROBABLY NEED THAT.

>> NUMBER WHEN YOU WANT TO PUT A CAP ON THE REYNOLDS. >> THAT'S ONLY FOR THE PERMANENT. THE ATTENUATOR SAYS THAT NO CAN STAY THERE MORE THAN 200 DAYS.

THAT'S NOT PERMANENT. IT'S TOTALLY TRANSIENT I WOULD THINK.

UNLESS YOU JUST WANT OFFER IT. THE ATTENUATOR WOULD BE TOTALLY THERE.

>> I WOULD LIKE TO SEE SOMETHING DIFFERENT. I WOULD LIKE THEM TO SEE RATE CHANGES ON THE TRANSIT. ONLY ON TRANSIT BUT NOT INCREASE.

>> THE AMOUNT TRANSIENT SHOULD BE A FIXED NUMBER WITH A 6040. EVERYTHING ELSE IS FIXED.

THAT ALLOWS THEM TO DO THEIR VARIABLE TRANSIT RATE IF THEY WANTED TO DO THAT.

>> EVEN THEN THE COMMISSIONERS CAN APPROVE A RATE INCREASE. >> THEY DO THAT ANNUALLY.

>> THE COMMISSION HAS THE ABILITY TO DO THAT AND THAT'S THE WAY IT SHOULD BE.

OASIS CAN CONTROL THE TRANSIT NUMBERS BECAUSE IT'S MORE PROFITABLE.

WE CAN GET A HIGHER RATE DURING THE PEAK SEASON WHEN THE DEMAND IS GREATEST.

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TRANSIENT AS OPPOSED TO PERMANENT AT SOME POINT. >> IS GONNA FLUCTUATE KEVIN.

>> WHAT YOU'RE GOING TO SEE IS YOU WILL GET FORCED OUT. >> BUSINESS BILLS ON THAT

SIDE. >> ONE WAY OR ANOTHER THEY WILL GET FORCED OUT IN THE

AMOUNT OF PERMANENT SPACES WILL BE REDUCED. >> THE COMMISSION HAVE TO MAKE THOSE DETERMINATIONS I WOULD THINK. IF WE HAVE A CONTRACT SIGNED WITH OASIS LIMITING THE TRANSIENTS TO 60% OR 50% WHATEVER THE NUMBER IS BECAUSE

IT'S ACCEPTABLE. >> THE COMMISSION WILL MAKE ANY CHANGES GOING FORWARD LET

THEM DO VARIABLE. >> I THINK IT'S THE SAME THING.

>> THERE ARE TWO ISSUES. ONE IS PERMANENT RATES ARE AT LEAST FIXED RATES WITH SLIP HOLDERS. SOME SORT OF NUMBER THAT WE CAN ADHERE TO FOR TRANSIENTS AND PERMANENCE. THOSE ARE THE TWO POINTS I THINK.

EVERY TIME I LOOK AT THIS IT SCARES ME BECAUSE IS NO CONTROLLER THAT.

>> WE HAVE GIVEN AWAY CONTROL IN THE MARINA TO THE MANAGEMENT COMPANY.

>> IS A COUPLE OTHER ISSUES THAT I HAVE. ONE OF THOSE IS UNDER YOUR HURRICANE PREPAREDNESS ACCORDING TO THE CITY'S RULES AND REGULATIONS THERE IS NO MENTION OF THE COAST GUARD IN THERE. THE COAST GUARD CLOTHES THE MARINA DOWN INSTANTLY IN A HURRICANE WHETHER YOUR RULES SAY YOU CAN OR CAN'T.

IT HAS TO BE SOME KIND OF LANGUAGE AND THEIR THAT SAYS AND IS AGREED TO BY LEATHER

RULES AND REGULATIONS ARE. >> PROTECTION IS THAT? >> OF THE CONTRACT.

>> I HEADED IN HERE SOMEWHERE. >> MY PROBLEM IS MY COPY OF THE RULES AND REGULATIONS

AREN'T THE LATEST. I'LL GET THAT TO YOU. >> JOE I WOULD LIKE TO FINISH MY COMMENTS SO THAT WE DON'T JUMP IN IN FOURTH. LET'S GO DOWN TO EXHIBIT A WHERE WE WERE. WE GO TO SECTION E, REVENUE TAXES AND SLIP RATES.

UNDER GROSS REVENUE THERE ARE SOME ITEMS. FIRST OFF THAT SHOULD SAY

GROSS. >> TELL ME WHERE YOU ARE SCOTT?

>> ITEM HE UNDER EXHIBIT A WHICH IS ATTACHED TO THE MAIN MANAGEMENT GREEMENT.

>> PAGE 22 BEHIND THE ORIGINAL. >> 26 IS WHAT I GOT.

>> WHERE TO GET THE MONEY FOR THE PUMP OUTS? WHERE DOES THAT FALL?

>> SUBCONTRACTORS DOING WORK ON BOTH.E CHARGE A FEE TO THE SUBCONTRACTORS NOW.

IS THAT MONEY? DOES OASIS GET THAT RELIGIOUS CITY GET THAT?

>> SHIP CHANDLER SEARCHES. THEIR SALES PRESENTATIONS. WAS GOING TO GET THAT MONEY THAT'S MADE THERE? OASIS URGES THE CITY GET A PART OF THAT ACTION?

>> SOMEWHERE IN THERE THERE. >> I'M SURE THERE'S PROBABLY A COUPLE OTHER THINGS LIKE THAT THAT I HAVE NOT THOUGHT ABOUT TODAY. THERE ARE ITEMS THAT ARE LEFT OUT THAT DON'T FALL IN EITHER THE CATEGORIES RETAIL OR THE OTHER.

I THINK THEY NEED TO BE DESIGNED SO THAT 70 CAN DECIDE WHO GETS THE MONEY FOR IT.

>> WE GO DOWN TO ITEM. >> OF GOOD ITEM G. WE TALK ABOUT OASIS AND MARINA

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ONLY. >> THAT WOULD BE A QUESTION FOR WHOEVER NEGOTIATED THIS.

WE GIVE THEM MORE THAN A BIT. THAT'S MY IMPRESSION AND THAT'S NOT WRONG.

>> I THINK THE RETAIL IS IN THE LEASE AGREEMENT. I UNDERSTAND RIGHT HERE IT'S

DEFINED. >> WE TALKED ABOUT GROSS REVENUE BEHIND THE BOOK.

>> MY QUESTION IS. >> HERE IT IS, MANAGEMENT FEE. THERE WE MONTHLY MANAGEMENT FEE FOR THOUSAND DOLLARS. OASIS PERFORMANCE WILL BE AND A HALF% OF GROSS REVENUE

EXCLUDING YOUR REVENUE. >> THE CORRECTIVE BID THAT SHE USED IN A FINANCIAL REVIEW.

THEY ASK A QUESTION I QUESTIONED HER SPECIFICALLY. >> IT'S GROSS REVENUE UNIT

DEFIES THE MARINA. >> I THINK IT'S FAIRLY CLEAR. WHERE WAS THAT?

>> THAT'S IN THE NEWER VERSION. >> ON PAGE 26 IS WHERE THE

FEES ARE. >> OF THE NEW CONTRACT GO OUT? >> NOTED NOT.

>> MY QUESTION IS ARE THERE DOXIES? >> HE JUST READ IT FOR YOU.

>> READ IT AGAIN. >> I'LL TAKE YOUR WORD FOR IT. >> LET'S GO TO THE LEASE ITSELF. THIS IS FOR THE PREMISE LEASE THAT WE ARE GIVEN ABOVE DOC FEES. FIRST OFF WE ARE GIVEN OASIS 75% OF GROSS PROFIT OFF THAT RETAIL OPERATION AND WHATEVER ELSE THEY RUN THROUGH THERE. WHERE WE GIVING THEM THAT MUCH?

WHY WOULDN'T IT BE 25%? >> IS SOMETHING DIDN'T ASK FOR .

>> AND APPARENTLY WE HAVE A CONTRACT WITH WEST TRACK AND MAY HAVE A SEPARATE LEASE LIKE THIS. THEY JUST COPY FORWARD AND NOT. NOBODY WAS ALLOWED TO CORRECT THEIR RFP AND NOW THEY GET MORE MONEY THAN THEY ASK FOR. I MAY BE WRONG BUT IT'S HOW I'M LOOKING AT IT. UNLESS SOMEONE CAN SHOW ME SOMETHING DIFFERENT.

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>> THE MONTHLY BASE RATE SHALL BE IN THE AMOUNT OF 25% OF THE MONTHLY NET RETAIL SALES COST OF GOODS SOLD. THAT'S BASICALLY THE GROSS PROFIT.

WE ARE GIVING THEM SOMETHING THEY DIDN'T ASK FOR. >> IS INHERENT IN DISCUSSION

OF THEM RENTING THE RETAIL SPACE. >> IT WAS AN RFP SO WHY ARE WE GIVING IT TO THEM? THAT'S MY QUESTION? .

WHERE WE GIVING THEM 75% IF WE ARE ONLY GETTING 25% FOR THE SAME? WHY IS IT REVERSED IF WE GIVE THINGS AWAY WHY GIVE SO MUCH AY?

>> I UNDERSTAND IF YOU READ WHAT I TOOK THAT AS HIS GROSS PROFIT.

IF YOU TAKE ONE FROM THE OTHER. ANSWER MY QUESTION. WHERE WE GIVING MORE AWAY THAT

WAS IN THE RFP? >> IF YOU GO TO ITEM 7 UTILITY.

IT SAYS THE SOLAR RESPONSE SHALL PAY THE WATER, SEWER AND TELEPHONE ETC. THEY DON'T HAVE ARE SEPARATE METERS THERE. HOUSE IS GOING TO BE CCOMPLISHED? YOU CAN INSTALL SEPARATE METERS FOR FOR EVERYTHING? WHO'S GOING TO PAY THAT COST? IF YOU GO TO NUMBER 50 SIMON AND SUBLET. IT SAYS A TENANT SHALL BE PERMITTED TO SIGN THIS LEASE OR SUBLET ITS RIGHTS. ARE WE TO GET IN A SITUATION WHERE HAVING THAT IN THERE AND NOT HAVING A NO SUBLEASE CLAUSE LIKE WE SHOULD HAVE IN EVERY LEASE? CAN YOU ENVISION A SCENARIO. THEY BRING IN A YACHT PROGRAM.

THEY SUBLEASE IN MY DESK IN MY TELEPHONE. THERE SLIPS AT A REDUCED RATE AND IT'S ENTICING TO BE HERE. THEY SET UP A SEPARATE COMPANY. HE ONLY PAYS HIM A DOLLAR PER YEAR FOR THAT. ARE YOU TO PUT OURSELVES IN THE SAME SITUATION AS BRETT?

THAT'S MY ONLY QUESTION. >> THE RATE I READ THAT. >> NORMALLY HAVE A SUBLEASE

CLAUSE IN EVERY LEASE. >> IS IT PRIOR WRITTEN CONSENT OF THE LANDLORD?

THE CITY HAS TO GRANT THE CONSENT TO ANY SUBLEASE. >> AND WANT TO GET IN TROUBLE.

IT WASN'T CLEARLY SPELLED OUT. >> IT WAS LEFT OUT. >> THAT'S MY COMMENT.

>> THEY WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO DO ANY SUBLEASES. TO BE HONEST WITH YOU I DID

HAVE IT. >> SOME POINTS MAY BE VALID AND SOME MAY NOT.

>> HE PART OF THE FACT THAT THERE COULD BE A YACHT AND I GOT A CALL FROM THE BROKER TODAY SAYING OASIS WAS PLANNING ON HAVING IT EXCLUSIVE TO THE MARINA.

>> I DON'T KNOW WHERE THE RUMOR STARTED BUT IT WAS A QUESTION.

>> TO GET INTO HOW THE CITY GETS THEIR MONEY. >> IF THEY AGREE AND THEY TAKE

TURNS THEY GET THE MONEY AND THEY COULD GET THE MONEY. >> I'M JUST TRYING TO PUT UP

THESE FLAGS AND IT MAY BE AN AREA WE NEED TO LOOK AT. >> YOUR FEEDBACK IS IMPORTANT.

AND SO MY SUGGESTION IS THIS IS ON THE AGENDA FOR NOVEMBER 4. SOMEBODY FROM THIS BOARD SHOULD BE AT THAT MEETING. THE REASON WHY IS BECAUSE RIGHT NOW WE DON'T HAVE THE CITY ATTORNEY HERE.E DON'T OF THE CITY MANAGER HERE. WE DON'T HAVE RELEASES HERE.

AND YOU DON'T HAVE THREE OTHER CITY COMMISSION. YOUR VALID POINTS THAT YOU ARE

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THAT'S HOW I WOULD RECOMMEND IT. >> IS A GREAT DISCUSSION.

>> I'LL TELL YOU WHAT. I MAKE A MOTION IF YOU WOULD WE CAN HAVE SIMILAR DISCUSSIONS ABOUT THIS PERHAPS BUT IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO ATTEND THE CITY COMMISSION MEETING YOU HAVE AND

HAVE DONE YOUR HOMEWORK ON THIS. >> HERE'S THE PROBLEM.

THIS HAS TO BE DONE BEFORE THE LEASE IS NEGOTIATED. IT'S NOT CAST IN STONE YET.

IT'S NOT COMPLETED. I WILL CERTAINLY BRING THEM OUT.

THAT'S WHAT I'M ASKING. THESE POINTS GET LOOKED AT BEFORE THIS AND GET SIGNED AND

SOME MAY BE VALID, JUST BE SMOKE. >> I WOULD LIKE TO RECOMMEND THAT THE BOARD SUBMITTED QUESTIONS TO JOSEPH HE CONSUMMATE THEM TO YOU.

THE REASON FOR IT IS THAT WE ARE NOT ALLOWED TO DO IT OURSELVES.

>> HERE AT THE END OF THE TIMEFRAME. >> THAT'S GOOD AS FAR AS I'M

CONCERNED. >> I JUST WANT TO SAY REALLY QUICK AGAIN STRUCTURALLY IT WAS SAID EARLIER THE MEANS OF JUST WRITING THIS DOWN AND SENDING IT INTO EACH ONE OF THE COMMISSIONERS FOR THE CITY MANAGERS. IF WE HAD A CONTRACT IN THE BEGINNING AND WE DON'T GET AN UPDATED CONTRACT WE CAN'T SEE WHAT'S GOING TO BE DONE.

THIS IS A PUNCH LIST AGAIN. >> I WILL TELL YOU WHAT WHEN I GO HOME TONIGHT I WILL SEND YOU A COPY. THAT AT THIS POINT. TO ME WHAT I NEED IS THE COMMISSIONERS THAT RECOMMEND THE HEARING IN THE MEETING. IF THEY TAKE THIS FEEDBACK TO A DISCUSSION IN YOUR MEETING AND THE REST OF THE COMMISSIONERS CAN HEAR IT &.

>> I'M NOT CUTTING THE SHORT I AGREE WITH YOU BUT I ALSO DISAGREE BECAUSE WE HAVE TWO COMMISSIONERS IN OUR DISCUSSION ITEMS. THEY ARE TO AND YOU NEED THREE.

OR MORE. WE NEED A MEANS THAT GETS TO THE COMMISSIONERS AND IT JUST CAN'T GET TO MIKE HERE. HAS TO GET TO THE OTHER THREE ALSO.

IT ALSO SAID TO THE CITY MANAGER. OUTLINES THAT REPRESENTS FOR EACH ONE OF US INDIVIDUALLY MAKES SURE WE WRITE OUR CONCERNS DOWN AND THEN BACK THAT UP WITH A PUSH FOR SCOTT TO REPRESENT AND GET A PARTICULAR ITEM.

THIS WAY THERE IS NO AMBIGUITY IN ANYTHING THAT'S OUR POSSESSION IS THE END MAY BE.

>> I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM IF I GET THE LATEST CONTRACT. I CAN GO BACK THROUGH AND PUT MY VERBIAGE IN AN EMAIL TO THE COMMISSIONERS AND THE CITY. AT THE POINT THEY GET IT I

DON'T KNOW THAT IT'S TOO LATE. >> NOTHING IS EVER TOO LATE. IN MY POSITION I'M SPEAKING FOR MYSELF AS A COMMISSIONER. SOMETHING'S NOT RIGHT I'M NOT TO VOTE FOR IT.

IF THERE ARE CONCERNS I'M NOT APPROVING IT. THIS IS NOT BEEN APPROVED BUT THE CITY COMMISSION. IT'S BEEN NEGOTIATED BUT IF THERE'S HOLES IN IT AND THERE ARE FLAWS IN IT AND IT CAN BE IMPROVED I'M NOT VOTING FOR IT UNTIL IT'S IMPROVED.

>> CONCLUDED DOES NOT MEAN THAT. JOE IT'S BEEN CONCLUDED BY THE CITY MANAGER AND THE CITY ATTORNEY. IT IS NOT BEEN APPROVED BY THE

CITY COMMISSIONER. >> I'M HEARING CONCERNS AND VALID ADDITIONS.

WHENEVER CONSTITUENT WRITE ME QUESTIONS. I RAISED THE QUESTION OF THE

CITY COMMISSION. >> IF YOU SEND ME A LIST OF THE STUFF I WILL GO DOWN AND

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TO MY SATISFACTION. THAT'S THE WORK THAT YOU'RE DOING RIGHT NOW.

TO PAUL'S POINT THE OTHER REASON YOU WANT TO PUT THIS IN WRITING AND HAVE A LIST, IT SHOWS THE CITY COMMISSION YOU ARE DOING YOUR JOB. BELIEVE ME WE HAVE COMMITTEES NOW THAT ARE WITH COMMISSIONERS THAT ASK IF THE COMMISSIONERS EXIST.

THIS SHOWS US YOU ARE DOING YOUR JOB. THAT'S WHY YOUR PANELS.

>> I WILL GO AHEAD AND SHARE BECAUSE I'M GIVING YOU MY OPINION AND MY COPY.

THIS IS THE ONE I HAVE TODAY. I WILL SHARE WITH YOU THAT I SENT OVER THE DRAFT OF THE AGREEMENT AND THE LEASE TO MY ATTORNEY. THERE ARE AMBIGUITIES BETWEEN WHAT OASIS IS DECIDING AND WHAT MY BUSINESS AGREEMENT AND LONG-TERM LEASES.

>> CAN YOU PULL IT UP REALLY QUICK? IF YOU LOOK AT PAGE 2 OF THAT

AGREEMENT. >> WHICH AGREEMENT? >> THE MANAGEMENT AGREEMENT.

PAGE 2. >> THAT'S NOT THE CURRENT LEASE.

HERE'S PAGE 2. >> OKAY LET'S SEE HERE. >> I THOUGHT THERE WAS A TIME LIMIT. IF THIS IS THE LANGUAGE I LOOK AT IT SAYS THE TERMS OF THIS AGREEMENT WILL BE SUPERSEDING OVER OTHER DOCUMENTS AND THE TERMS OF THE REMAINING DOCUMENTS WILL BE GIVEN PREFERENCE AND THEIR ABOVE LISTED BORDER.

IT IS SUPERSEDED BY THIS. IT BASICALLY SAYS THE CITY CAN MAKE ANY AGREEMENT THEY WANT

AND OASIS CAN IGNORE IT IF THEY ARE NOT IN THE REQUIREMENT. >> MY ATTORNEY TOLD ME TODAY THAT THAT WILL BE TWEAKED IN THE FINAL AGREEMENT. MY WORRY IS IF I DON'T KNOW IF THE FINAL DRAFT THIS BECAUSE I HAVE OBVIOUSLY SOMETHING NEAR IT.

I HAVE TO GO BACK THROUGH BOTH FORMS AND LOOK AT THE STRETCH AND SUBMIT THE INFORMATION.

>> IT WOULD BE MY SUGGESTION FOR THE COMMISSION IN THEIR MEETING TO PUSH THIS OUT ONE MORE MEETING. THEY TAKE THESE COMMENTS AND DIFFERENT THINGS TO GET ONE

DRAFT SO THAT EVERYONE HAS A DRAFT TO LOOK AT. >> IT WILL HAPPEN ANYWAY.

THE COMMISSION HAS ISSUES AND IT WILL HELP ME REDRAFTED. IT WILL PUSH THEM FOR A FINAL

VOTE WITH THE MEETING. >> ANOTHER TWO WEEKS OR WHATEVER.

>> AND MAYBE WHAT WILL HAPPEN NATURALLY. >> THIS AND SAYS THE AGREEMENT

WILL BECOME EFFECTIVE ON OR ABOUT DECEMBER 1. >> A BE HONEST WITH YOU I

DON'T SEE ANYTHING HERE THAT I CAN SEE. >> ALSO SOME ISSUES THEY WOULD OBJECT TO. IT'S A DIFFERENCE OF NOT GETTING THAT RETAIL LINK THERE.

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>> WERE NOT SUPPOSED TO TALK TO EACH OTHER AFTER THIS. WE CAN'T START WITH THE

MEETING. THE PARTICULARS AND ITEMS HERE. >> IN ANY LANGUAGE IT SAYS YOU HAVE TO PUT LANGUAGE IN THERE THAT SAYS IN ACCORDANCE WITH FEDERAL REGULATIONS.

RIGHT NOW THERE IS NOTHING IN IT THAT SAYS THAT. THE CITY PROPERTY WILL BE MANAGED BASED ON THE BUSINESS. IT'S THE SAME WAY WITH THE MARINA.

IF A HURRICANE PLAN BASED ON THE CITY'S ROLES. IT HAS TO INCORPORATE THE COAST GUARD'S RULES TOO. THEN OTHER LANGUAGES IN HERE. WE GIVE A NASTY WEATHER AND IT

WILL BE A PHONE CALL FROM A CAPTAIN. >> ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANY

ADDITIONAL COMMENTS ON SPECIFICS? >> I HAVE TWO.

I HAVE ONE FROM JERRY AND JUST HAVE A QUESTION. >> BEFORE I HAVE A SERIOUS COMMENT. I NOTICED A PIECE IN THERE ABOUT INCENTIVES.

TODAY THEY RECOGNIZE ANYTHING IN HERE LIKE IF THEY DON'T PERFORM?

>> IS NO PENALTY HERE. IT'S JUST INCENTIVES. >> NORMALLY YOU HAVE A PRINT".

>> IS THE PERCENTAGE AN INCENTIVE TO PERFORM WELL. IF YOU DON'T PERFORM WELL IT

WAS JUST SIMPLY THAT AND A HALF%. >> I'LL DISTRUST UP WHEN IT

COMES. >> ABOUT THE TRUE INCENTIVE THAT WASN'T IN THEIR RFP.

>> IS SOMETHING WE GIVE THEM. >> IF YOU DON'T PERFORM A TELL YOU SCOTT YOUR POINTS ARE VERY

IMPORTANT. >> ONE OF THE THINGS I FOUND AS I WAS WATCHING AND READING A FEW COMMENTS. ONE OF THEM WAS A PENALTY PHASE.

IF WE DO THIS PLUS WE GET OUR COMMENTS. WHAT THAT DOES IS CAUSE HIM TO FIGURE OUT HOW AND RAISE RATES HIGH ENOUGH TO GET THE PERCENTAGES UP.

YOU DON'T GIVE ANYBODY ABOUT INCENTIVES. >> I THINK SCOTT HAS POINTS THAT ARE REALLY WELL ON. HERE'S JERRY'S COMMENT. HE TALKS BRIEFLY ABOUT IT AND

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CONFLICTING INSTRUCTIONS AND MISUNDERSTOOD GUIDANCE WAS A CONTRIBUTING FACTOR AS WAS FOLLOWING. IT ASSIGNS A DESIGNATED POC WHICH WILL SIGNIFICANTLY REDUCE THESE TYPES OF COSTLY MISTAKES THIS TIME AROUND ALLOWING BOTH PARTIES CONFIDENCE THAT

COMMUNICATION IS CLEAR AND HAS BEEN PROPERLY ACTIVE. >> THAT WOULD'VE BEEN THE

MARINA MANAGEMENT. >> I THINK YOU'RE EXACTLY RIGHT.

IT'S ANOTHER INDIVIDUAL SEPARATE FROM THE CITY AND SEPARATE FROM OASIS.

HOW DO YOU FILL THAT POSITION?. IT'S MORE FOCUSED ON THAT LAYER.

>> I CAN UNDERSTAND THAT. >> ANY MORE DISCUSSION ON THIS?

[7.1 NEW BUSINESS Discussion concerning a spot for storing kayaks, small sailboats, etc.]

>> WE CAN TURN THE PAGE TO NEW BUSINESS. 7.1.

THIS IS UNDER NEW BUSINESS. DISCUSSION CONCERNING A SPOT FOR STORING KAYAKS AND SMALL SAILBOATS. YEARS AGO WE DID HAVE SMALL SAILBOATS THAT WAS STORED

BEHIND CHARLIE. THERE WAS SOME ISSUES WITH IT. >> THE CORPORATION ACTUALLY DONATED THE MONEY. THE BOATS WERE OWNED BY A GROUP OF PEOPLE AND MANAGEMENT SHIFTED TO ANOTHER PERSON AND THAT PERSON WHO LOST THE MANAGEMENT GOT MAD EVEN THOUGH THEY HAVE FEES IN THE CITY PAID FOR SOME OF IT. THE SAILING BOAT FLEET FOR SOME OF THE BOATS AND ENDED UP IN GEORGIA. IT WAS BECAUSE OF A CONTEST BETWEEN TWO PEOPLE. IT IS NOT TO BE THAT BIG. KAYAKS WON'T TAKE UP A LOT OF

ROOM. >> THESE WITH THE INDIVIDUAL. IT'S INCOME PRODUCING.

>> IT DOESN'T TAKE UP A LOT OF SPACE. IT'S A GREAT ACCENT FOR PEOPLE

THAT DON'T HAVE STORAGE. IT'S RIGHT THERE YOU GOT IT. >> FOR ME INTRODUCE THIS IS NEW BUSINESS BECAUSE WHEN I LOOKED AT IT WITH THE WATERFRONT PLANS THERE ARE THINGS THAT I LIKE AND THINGS THAT I DON'T LIKE. THE ONE THING THAT STOOD OUT TO ME WAS WHEN I LOOK AT THE MARINA TO ME THAT'S ACCESS TO THE INTERCOASTAL WATER.

IT'S THAT WHOLE MARITIME ISSUE. WHEN I WENT BACK TO MY HOMETOWN THEY HAVE LITTLE STATIONS ALONG THE MARINA. THE KIND OF EXTEND DOWN BECAUSE THEY HAVE A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT ACCENTS. THE CITY PROVIDES THIS PURITY PAY FEE BECAUSE WERE NOT JUST LOOKING FOR THINGS EITHER WAY WE HAVE TO ADMIT WE NEED REVENUE TALKED ABOUT THAT BEFORE. WHETHER IT'S YOUR CANOE OR KAYAK OR EVEN A SAILBOAT JUST TO BE ABLE TO LAUNCH IT FROM THERE. IT'S ACCESS TO THE WATER AND THE WORKING MARINA. I THINK WHAT IT DOES TO IS BRINGS BACK AND WHETHER IT CAN

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WHEN YOU HAVE YACHTS THAT CERTAIN COMMUNITY. YOU HAVE SMALL BOATS LIKE

BOSTON WHEELERS THAT'S A CERTAIN COMMUNITY. >> THE BOATS ARE NOT EXPOSED BUT USUALLY THEY ARE CHAINED UP. I TELL YOU WHAT.

WHEN WE DO A LITTLE RESEARCH ON THIS AND SEE HOW THEY DO IT IN OTHER COMMUNITIES.

WE CAN BRING IT BACK TO THE NEXT MEETING. >> I WOULD APPRECIATE THAT.

>> WILL EACH MAKE A PROPOSAL TO FIGURE OUT WHAT WORKS AND WHAT AT DOESN'T.

HOW BIG THE FOOTPRINT AS AND IF THE CITY COULD SACRIFICE A LITTLE BIT OF LAND FOR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. AND WHERE IT WOULD BE LOCATED. I STILL THINK BEHIND CHARLIE'S

AND SOME OF THAT. >> I BELIEVE THERE'S NOTHING IN THE NEXT TOPIC TO DISCUSS AT

THE TIME. >> GOOD. >> THAT WILL MAKE A QUICK AND

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EASY THEN. >> THE NEXT MEETING? >> BOARD MEMBERS, DOES ANYBODY

HAVE ANYTHING THEY WANT TO ADD? >> I JUST WANT TO REINFORCE THAT FOR MISTER ROSS.

WE HAVE BEEN SINCE THE BOARD'S CONCEPTION REALLY FATEFUL COMING HERE MANY TIMES.

I JUST REALLY WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE THAT BECAUSE THEY ARE VERY RESPONSIVE AND AT LEAST WE HAVE QUESTIONS ON THEIR RESPONSE OF NOT TO DISMISS MIKE BUT I DO KNOW THE POC FOR THE MARINA DOES SEND OUT INFORMATION. WHEN WE ARE NOT ACTIVE I JUST

WANT TO REALLY ACKNOWLEDGE THAT. >> WE ALWAYS GET GREAT ANSWERS

AND RESPONSES. >> THE NEXT MEETING, ANYTHING ELSE?

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>> THE NEXT MEETING WOULD BE NOVEMBER 23 AT 6:00 P.M.. I REALLY AGREE WITH THAT?

>> ANY COMMISSION THAT WE ADJOURNED.

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