[1. CALL TO ORDER / ROLL CALL / DETERMINATION OF QUORUM]
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>> GOOD AFTERNOON EVERYONE. SEPTEMBER 23RD.
PLANNING BOARD ADVISORY MEETING. MADAM SECRETARY WILL YOU PLEASE DO A ROLL CALL.
[2. PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE]
>> OKAY WE HAVE A QUORUM. OUR NEXT ITEM IS THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE.
>> THANK YOU. OUR BOARD BUSINESS TONIGHT FOR THIS SPECIAL MEETING TO BEGIN TO TALK ABOUT HOW WE ARE GOING TO -- WHAT OUR PLAN NEED TO BE FOR THE REWRIGHT AND HOW WE WANT THE PROCESS. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU HAVE TELE WORK TO DO. FOR THIS MEETING, AND WE'VE GOT
[3.1 BOARD BUSINESS - Next Steps for City's Comprehensive Plan and Land Development Code Revisions The Board's goals for this meeting include: 1. Defining the mission and objectives for this effort; 2. Determining an organizational structure that accounts for interface between board, citizen volunteers, staff, and consultants; and 3. Consideration of various public outreach strategies.]
FOLKS IN THE ROOM AND FOLKS ON ZOOM.BUT FOR THIS PORTION OF THE MEETING I WILL TURN THE CHEL OVER TO KELLY. SHE WILL LEAD THIS DISCUSSION.
AND THEN WE WILL GO THROUGH THE ISSUES.
KELLY, I WILL TURN IT OVER TO YOU RIGHT NOW.
>> IF IT'S OKAY. I WILL COME UP IN FRONT OF EVERYBODY. TONIGHT THE IT WILL BE INTERACTY MEETING WHERE EVERYONE IS PARTICIPATING VIRTUALLY AND IN PERSON PARTICIPATE WITH THE BOARD AND OUR OFFICE HERE.
WE HAVE FOUR ADDITIONAL PARTICIPANTS ON THE VIRTUAL CALL. I WILL CONTINUE TO CHECK THE CALL DURING THE TIME TO SEE IF OTHERS JOINED LET ME KNOW.
EVERYONE IS AVAILABLE TO SPEAK. BUT YOU ARE ON MUTE AT THIS POINT IN TIME. WITH THAT SAID.
IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT TO PROJECT TONIGHT.
BECAUSE THE ZOOM CALL IN FRONT OF YOU THE MIC IS OVER HERE ARE PICKING UP FOR VOICE FOR PURPOSES OF REPORTING AND WE HAVE CAMERAS AVAILABLE AT THE BACK OF THE ROOM TO PICK THIS UP. IT'S VERY IMPORTANT.
IF WE GET UP AND MOVE AROUND IT WILL NOT BE ABLE TO HEAR IT.
WE WILL TRY TO KEEP IT FACILITATED.
IF THERE'S NOT A LOT OF DISCUSSION OR BREAK OUT.
ONE PERSON AT THE TIME. >> EXCUSE ME.
IS THAT PART OF THE MICROPHONE DOWN THERE.
I DON'T FEEL LIKE I NEED TO GIVE INTRODUCTION.
SIXTH YEAR NOW. LOTS OF IDEA ABOUT WHAT THE WORKING AND WHAT'S NOT WORKING. [INAUDIBLE] WHAT WE'VE BEEN THROUGH IN THE LAST 15 MONTHS OR SO AND THEN WE'LL GET TO THE NEXT STEPS AS WE PROGRESS THROUGH.
WITHIN THE PAST YEAR WE COMPLETED THE STATE REQUIRED EVALUATION APPRAISAL REPORT. WE WORK THE NORTHEAST REGIONAL COUNCIL TO DO FACILITATED MEETING ABOUT EVERY SINGLE ELEMENT IN OUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
THERE WAS 12 ELEMENTS OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
THAT'S FACILITIED THROUGH SERIES OF FOUR PUBLIC WORKSHOPS.
2019. THE BOARD RECEIVED THOSE NOTES AS WELL AS THE REVIEW ITEMS TO GIVE YOU IN PREPARATION FOR THE MEETING. FROM THAT WE GLEANED A NUMBER OF THINGS. I THINK ONE OF THE THINGS YOU WILL SEE IN THE PRESENTATION TONIGHT IDENTIFICATION OF KEY THEMES THAT WE FELT WERE PULLED FROM THE FACILITATED MEETING.
BUT I THINK YOU WILL BE ABLE TO INFORM AND HELP US TO TETHER EVERYTHING. I KNOW WE HEARD A LOT ABOUT RESILIENCY. SUSTAINABILITY.
BALANCING AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND THE NEEDS OF OUR COMMUNITY.
AND REALLY THINKING ABOUT GROWTH AS WE GO THROUGH THE NEXT
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PLANNING. THE DIRECTION FOLLOWING THE COMPLETION OF THAT REPORT ITSELF WAS THAT WITH PROCEED WITH LEGISLATIVE CHANGES IN THE YEAR 2020.WE COMPLETED THAT. THOSE WERE REQUIRED LEGISLATIVE CHANGES. PLANNING AND SEASONAL POPULATION. WE DID SO IN A WAY THAT WOULD MEET THE MINIMUM AND STATUTORILY REQUIRED OF THE CITY FOR COMPLIANCE. WE ARE JUST WRAPPING UP AT THIS POINT IN TIME. WE WILL FINALIZE TOWARD THE END OF THIS CALENDAR YEAR. AFTER THAT OF COURSE WE HAD IMPACT RELATED TO COVID GREATLY CHANGING HOW WE ENGAGE.
WE HAVE COMMUNITY INVOLVE. HOW WE OBTAIN COMMUNITY INPUT.
HAVING THAT LENSE AS WE DIFFERENT CONCEPT AND STRATEGIES WILL BE TREMENDOUSLY IMPORTANT. AS WE TALK ABOUT EVERYTHING.
IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE REALLY WANT TO REMIND OURSELVES OF THAT HOW ARE WE GOING TO GET THE INPUT THAT WE NEED FOR THE EXCHANGES. THEN THIS PAST YEAR WE ISSUED A REQUEST FOR QUALIFICATION. EVERYONE HAS BEEN A PART OF THE PROCESS IN BOARD RECEIVED WORKSHOP.
IN AUGUST PRESENTATION FROM THE TOP FOUR CANDIDATE AND RIGHT NOW THEY ARE HOPING TO DO AN AWARD IN LATE OCTOBER ASSOCIATED WITH THAT. AND THERE WILL BE SOMEONE SHARING DECISIONS MADE AT THAT POINT IN TIME.
JUST TO WRAP UP A BIT ON POPULATION GROWTH, AND LAST YEAR THE REPORT WE CONDUCTED BUREAU OF ECONOMIC AND BUSINESS RESEARCH THROUGH THE UNIVERSITY OF FLORIDA.
THEY ARE STATES AGENCY THAT IS MANDATED TO REPORT POPULATION.
THEY CREATED A SMALL SCALE MODEL FOR THE CITY.
WE PROJECT OUT THE POPULATION FOR THE YEAR 2016.
OUR PLANNING HORIZON IS 2040. 2045.
EXCUSE ME IN THE NEW GENERATION COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
THAT'S THE YEAR TO WRAP OUR HEADS AROUND.
ONE OF THE INTERESTING THINGS THAT CAME OUT OF THE REPORT ITSELF WAS THAT THE MAJORITY OF OUR DEVELOP M LIKELY TO OCCUR WITHIN THE NEXT TEN TO 15 YEARS. THAT IS ANOTHER NEED YOU WANT TO KEEP IN MIND. 2045 IS DIFFICULT TO WRAP YOUR HEAD AROUND. THINK ABILITY WHAT YOU WANT THE DO WITHIN THIS SMALLER WINDOW. BECAUSE THE CHANGES WE MAKE IN THE NEXT YEAR OR TWO WILL HAVE A DRAMATIC EFFECT ON ULTIMATELY WHAT IS OUR BUILT IN ENVIRONMENT MOVING FORWARD.
FOLLOWING THAT WILL BE A LOT OF DEVELOPMENT, OR REDEVELOPMENT THAT WE'RE OPEN ON. WITH THAT I WILL TURN IT OVER FOR TALKING ABOUT THE EXPECTATION AND WHAT WE WOULD LIKE TO SEE COME FROM THIS MEETING.
PREPARATION FOR THE PRESENTATION CITY COMMISSION IN OCTOBER.
>> GOOD EVENING. BOARD MEMBERS MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC. JAKE PLAT.
WE WANT TO KIND OF OUTLINE OUR COOUTLINES.
THERE'S SOME MAJOR THEMES THAT STAFF FOUND IN THE EVALUATION AND THEMES THAT WE SEE IN DEVELOPMENT IN THE CITY THROUGH DEVELOPMENT REVIEW PROCESSES AND JUST INQUIRIES OF DIFFERENT TYPES OF DEVELOPMENT THAT ARE OCCURRING IN THE CITY.
KELLY MENTIONED THE USE OF LIMITED FUNDING AND HOW WE ARE GOING TO DISCUSS WITH THE BOARD MEMBERS AND GAIN CONSENSUS ON WHERE WE WANT TO SPEND THE AVAILABLE DOLLARS.
WE GOT A VERY ROBUST AND AWARD WINNING COMPREHENSIVE PLAN NOW THAT CAN USE SOME REFINING AND WE CAN LOOK AT IT.
AND MAKE ADJUSTMENT BASED ON EVALUATION OR APPRAISAL REPORT AND STRENGTH IN KEY AREA THAT WE NEED TO STRENGTHEN.
BUT OUR LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE IS THE IMPLEMENTATION DOCUMENT.
AND WE WILL TALK ABOUT WHERE WE UTILIZE THAT FUNDING AND REALLY DEFINING ROLLS AS FAR AS PLANNING ADVISORY WORD AND HOW WE BREAK UP THE TWO DOCUMENTS AND STUDY THEM AND WORK THROUGH THOSE DOCUMENTS. I RECENTLY BEEN TURNEDED ON TO AMERICAN AUTHOR AND EDUCATOR MR. STEVEN COBY.
THERE ARE TWO QUOTES THAT I WANT TO LEAD TONIGHT.
AND THE MAIN THEME I WANT US TO START WITH THE END IN MIND.
AFTER 12 MONTHS, TWO YEARS AT THE MOST.
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WHAT ARE WE WANTING TO ACCOMPLISH.ANOTHER QUOTE OF HIT IF WE KEEP DOING WHAT WE ARE DOING.
WE ARE GOING TO KEEP GETTING WHAT WE'RE GETTING.
KIND OF WHAT WE GOT OUT OF THE EVALUATION APPRAISAL IS WE'RE SEEING SOME THINGS THAT WE LIKE. WE SEE THINGS THAT WE DON'T LIKE. I WANT TO FOCUS ON WE NEED TO MAKE IMPROVEMENT. AND KIND OF THE FIRST KICK OFF PART OF THIS DISCUSSION TONIGHT. I WANT TO ASK YOU TO PROVIDE ONE OR TWO FILL IN THE BLANKS. AT COMPLETION OF EFFORT WE SUCCESSFULLY ACCOMPLISHED ONE. AGAIN, WE'VE GOT ENDGAME IN MIND AND WHAT DO WE WANT TO ACCOMPLISH.
I THINK THAT'S KEY TO GUIDING THIS WHOLE PROCESS.
AND DOES ANYONE WANT TO START? IST GOING TO KEEP TRACK OF THIS.
YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE ENTIRE EFFORT; RIGHT?
>> THE COMMUNITY BUY THIS IS IMPORTANT.
>> ABSOLUTELY. >> THAT'S CERTAINLY THE KEY TO THIS ENTIRE PROCESS AND OUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND THE IMPLEMENTATION DOCUMENT THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE.
WHAT DOES THE COMMUNITY WANT TO SEE ON THE GROUND.
WHAT DO WE WANT THE FUTURE DEVELOPMENT IN THE CITY TO LOOK
LIKE? >> THE COMMUNITY BUY-IN THAT'S GREAT. THAT'S KEY.
OBVIOUSLY. I WILL THROW SOMETHING OUT.
BASED ON WHAT EYE SEEN FOR POPULATION GROWTH IN THE COUNTY WE ARE WHO WE ARE I THINK WE GOT A LOT MORE ON INTEGRATED TRANSPORTATION MECHANISM FOR THE WHOLE COUNTY AS WELL AS THE CITY. AS I SEE THE BIGGEST PART OF THE GROWTH IS NOT PERMANENT RESIDENCE.
IT'S PEOPLE CALLING TO ENJOY AMENITIES AND SO FORTH THAT WE HAVE HERE. I JUST DON'T SEE HAVING DONE MUCH AND THACH YOU AT ALL IN TERMS OF WHAT I CALL MOBILE
TRANSPORTATION. >> WE WILL TALK MORE ABOUT TRANSPORTATION. THAT'S DEFINITELY A COMPONENT THAT STAFF LEAVES THEY HAVE TO PUT SOME STRONG FOCUS IN ON.
CITY WIDE EFFORT BUT THE COORDINATION THAT WE HAVE ONE ISLAND THAT IS SPLIT. MORE SOUTH ORIENTED WITH COUNTY AND CITY AND BOUNDARIES. THE TRANSPORTATION IS KEY ELEMENT. TRANSPORTATION, CITY AND COUNTY
>> I THINK WHAT YOU ARE SAYING THAT YOU REALLY WANT -- YOU WANT THE DOCUMENT TO CLEARLY ADDRESS INTERMODAL TRANSPORTATION
STRATEGY. >> FOR THE COUNTY AND THE CITY?
>> WELL, FOR THE CITY AND THEN I THINK THERE WILL BE COMPONENTS OF THAT, THAT HAVE TO REACH OUT INTO THE COUNTY AND THE REGION, ACTUALLY. YOU KNOW I THINK IT'S REALLY
CRITICAL. >> I THINK WE WILL FIND IT 200 WILL BE -- [INAUDIBLE]
>> REALLY MULTI-MODAL TRANSPORTATION NETWORK THAT TAKES INTO ACCOUNT CARS AND ALL THE SUESERS.
BICYCLIST AND PEDESTRIAN AND STRENGTHENING THE NETWORK WHERE WE HAVE EFFICIENCIES AND WHERE WE CAN ADD SIDEWALK CONNECTIONS.
BIKE TRAILS AND REALLY BUILD THAT STRONG NETWORK.
>> I THINK I WANT TO SAY THAT WE HAVE CREATED A CLEAR ROAD MAP THAT IDENTIFIES THE MAJOR COMPONENTS AND HOW WE'RE GOING TO ACTUALLY MOVE THEM FORWARD. I DON'T WANT IT TO BE BIG FANCY WORDS. I WANT IT TO BE REALISTIC AND THAT'S KIND OF AT THE GROUND LEVEL AS IT CAN BE SO THAT WE CAN READ IT, WE CAN UNDERSTAND IT.
AND KNOW HOW IT IMPACTS US IF THAT MAKES SENSE.
>> ABSOLUTELY. THE A PLAN THAT CAN BE
>> AND IT'S NOT JUST ALL BIG FANCY WORDS.
NOT THAT OUR PLAN IS. BUT YOU KNOW, WE HAVE TENDENCY TO GO OFF OVER HERE SOMEWHERE THIS IS NUTS AND BOLTS KIND OF
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PROJECT. I WOULD ADD TO THAT.I THINK THAT'S AN EXCELLENT POINT.
IF I HAD OBJECTIVE. NEXT TIME YOU PUT A PLAN TOGETHER. WOULD BE TO REDUCE THE WORKLOAD BY 10%. MAKE THE PLANNING PROCESS EASIER. CITY COMMISSION, HAVE THEM TAKE LESS TIME ON COMPLEX ISSUES. MAKE IT RIGHT.
STREAMLINE THE PROCESS, I DON'T THINK THAT'S UNREALISTIC AT ALL.
>> THE DOCUMENT OR IMPLEMENTATION PURPOSES.
>> YOU CUT 10% OF THE PHONE CALLS EVERY DAY.
THINGS LIKE THAT. THAT'S WHERE THAT GOES REALLY FAST. [LAUGHTER]
>> FOR ME I WAS THERE FOR A LOT OF THESE MEETINGS, I GUESS I DON'T KNOW HOW TO WORD IT. DIFFERENTIATING WHAT IS JUST AN ENFORCEMENT OBSTACLE TO ACTUALLY SOMETHING WE NEED TO PUT IN HERE. I GUESS DIFFERENTIATING WHAT IS REAL PROBLEM AS OPPOSE TO ENFORCE ALSO MAYBE ADDING MORE VERBIAGE TO HELP WHAT ACTUALLY HAPPENED.
DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? >> YEAH.
I THINK STAFF RECOGNIZES AND WE WILL TALK ABOUT IT THAT WE WANT A PLAN THAT IS EASILY READ BY CITY STAFF AND RESIDENTS WHO LOOKING AT IT ONLINE OR WHO RESEARCHING ANY GIVEN TOPIC FOR PROJECT THEY WANT TO DO AT THEIR HOUSE.
DEVELOPER CLEAR LANGUAGE THAT'S CON SOS.
I THINK PART OF THAT WHEN WE GET INTO REVIEWING THE DOCUMENTS IS WE HAVE AGAIN LOTS OF GREAT LANGUAGE AND HOW CAN WE CLEAN THAT UP AND STRENGTHEN THE AREAS THAT WE NEED TO AND IMPLEMENTATION COMPONENT OF THE TOP LAND DEVELOPMENT.
>> I THINK THAT'S GOOD >> SO KIND REITERATING ON THE TOPICS AND THE PLAN AND GUIDANCE THAT WE ARE LOOKING TO HAVE WE'RE WANTING TO EVALUATE OUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN IN A MANNER THAT ALLOWS US TO THEN OBVIOUSLY IMPLEMENT IT.
THERE ARE CERTAIN ELEMENTS THAT WILL REQUIRE MORE FOCUS THAN OTHERS. ONE OF THE MAIN TOPIC OR EVALUATION APPRAISAL WAS PROTECTION AND PROTECTION OF OUR CULTURAL AND HISTORICAL RESOURCES CERTAINLY WITH OUR HISTORIC DOWNTOWN OUR NATURAL ENVIRONMENT THAT'S A BIG COMPONENT OF THE EVALUATION APPRAISAL PROCESS.
DOES ANYBODY HAVE IDEAS ON HOW WE CAN STRENGTHEN THOSE COMPONENTS IN COMPREHENSIVE PLAN OR CODE WITH THAT END GOAL IN
MIND? >> THE AUDIENCE IS WELCOME TO JUMP IN ON THIS? THIS IS NOT JUST US.
PLEASE SPEAK UP. >> I WOULD LIKE TO SEE AT THE END OF THE PROCESS WE HAVE A FRAMEWORK FOR MOVING TO THE NEXT LEVEL, THE NEXT STEP IN TERMS OF SUSTAINABILITY AND RESILIENCY FOR THE COMMUNITY. I THINK WHEN WE LOOK AT THE CURRENT PLAN WE SEE A FOUNDATION FOR THAT WE SEE WHAT WERE THE PREVIOUS THAT WE TAKE. I WOULD LIKE TO SEE COMPLETELY DIFFERENT LEVEL WITH CURRENT UPDATE.
AND JUST NEED TO BE VERY CONCRETE AND REALISTIC AND SOMETHING THAT CAN BE REALLY ARTICULATED SPECIFICALLY IN THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE SO THAT STAFF CAN FOLLOW THROUGH ON IT AND ENFORCE IT. SO THAT WE'RE MOVING AHEAD IN THAT DIRECTION AS WE ARE PREPARED FOR THE FUTURE TO THE
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EXTENT THAT, THAT'S POSSIBLE. >> ABSOLUTELY.
>> SUSTAINABILITY AND RESILIENCY ARE CERTAINLY ONE OF THE MAIN STAFF GOALS WE WANT TO ACCOMPLISH WITH THIS PLAN AND IMPLEMENTATION. YES, MA'AM.
>> I WAS GOING ALSO TAG ALONG TO SOME OTHER OTHER THINGS PEOPLE WERE TALKING ABOUT. I THINK THAT CERTAINLY THE CURRENT PLAN IS THOROUGH AND DETAILED.
WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE MORE OF THE ACCOUNTABILITY BEING MEASURED. IF IT SAYS INCLUDE ROADS WE DON'T KNOW WHO WILL DO IT. WE DON'T KNOW WHEN, WE DON'T KNOW WHICH ROADS. I THINK THAT HELPS BUILD TRUST WHEN WE KNOW AND THAT YOU CAN FIND YOU CAN FIND THE INFORMATION TIED INTO THE PLAN. I CAN READ THE PLAN NOW AND SEE THAT THE CITY HAS MADE INCREDIBLE PROGRESS AND SOME GOALS THAT I WOULD EASILY SAY HAVE BEEN MET.
THERE'S NOWHERE THAT I CAN FIND THAT WHICH WOULD SUPPORT WHAT I THINK I'VE HEARD AND WHERE I LIVE.
I THINK THE SECOND BIG PIECE I WOULD SAY IS WHERE IT SAY COMMUNITY VON YOU'LL. I THINK THE OTHER BUY IN STAFF.
I THE EVERY ONE OF THE ELEMENTS NEED TO BE OWNED BY EVERYBODY.
IF YOU WORK IN THE FACILITIES DEPARTMENT YOU OWN PART OF THIS.
YOU WORK IN THE REC DEPARTMENT. YOU OWN PART OF IT.
YOU KNOW WHO YOU ARE AS A CITY, YOU KNOW -- IF YOU LOOK AT WHAT THE MAYOR HAS WRITTEN. THE WEB SITE THE FIRST THING YOU SEE. HE WHAT DOES IT TAKE YOU SOMEONE WHO WORKED FOR PARKS AND RECREATION, WHAT DO YOU DO THAT'S TIED INTO THE COMP PLAN THAT HELPED YOU TO BE ACCOUNTABLE BUT ALSO TO BELIEVE IN THAT VISION SO THAT I HAVE A CONVERSATION WITH YOU IT'S TIED IN TO KEEPING AND MAINING
>> AND TRANSPORTATION. >> GREAT COMMENTS.
THIS DOCUMENT IS COMPREHENSIVE PLAN FOR BOTH GUIDING PUBLIC DEVELOPMENT AND THE PUBLIC SIDE AS WELL AS THE PRIVATE DEVELOPMENT SIDE. IT'S KEY TO HAVE THAT STATE OR CITY STAFF BUY IN WHICH ONE OF THE KEY ELEMENTS.
THE WAY YOU DO THAT THROUGH A DASH BOARD.
>> THROUGH A DASH BOARD. AND DASH BOARD IS SET OF MEASURABLE GOALS THAT ARE CLEARLY ARTICULATED AND ALL YOU GUYS WHO WORK AND DID THIS BEFORE.
YOU KNOW WHAT A DASH BOARD LOOKS LIKE.
YOU LOVE IT OR YOU HATE IT. DEPENDING WHERE YOU ARE ON IT.
BUT IT'S A WAY TO TRACK AND MEASURE AND HOLD GROUPS AND INDIVIDUALS ACCOUNTABLE AND WAY TO SHOW OUR SUCCESSES AND SHOW WHERE WE HAVE TO SHORE THINGS UP TO BE ABLE TO WORK HARDER FOR
WHAT WE NEED TO DO. >> CONTINUOUS IMPROVEMENT.
>> CONTINUOUS IMPROVEMENT. DASH BOARD TOOLS ARE GREAT WAY TO DO THAT. MAYBE I THINK WE GOT IT JUST IN THE FRAMEWORK OF ALL THE COMP PLANS THERE ARE PRIORITIES IN THE SENSE THIS IS MORE IMPORTANT I THINK WE'VE GOT TO SOMEHOW MODEL IN THE PRIORITY THE MUST AND THE WANTS.
>> I THINK IT'S NO DIFFERENT THAN WHAT THE CITY COUNCIL TRIED TO DO THE BUDGET. YEAH, I WANT THIS BUT I COULD MOVE IT OUT OF HERE. I'M COMFORTABLE MOVING IT OUT OF HERE. KELLY DOES THAT WITH A LOT OF HER PRIORITIES TO SEE THAT. I THINK WE NEED TO THAT WHERE SOMEONE COMES BACK. YOU NEVER DID THIS.
WELL, LET ME TELL YOU ABOUT 2020.
I THINK WE NEED TO KEEP THAT I DON'T KNOW HOW WE PUT THAT TOOL TOGETHER YET. SOMETHING THAT LETS US RANK
THE OTHER THING TOO YOU HAVE TO FIGURE WHAT DIDN'T WORK WITH THE OLD PLAN. VERBIAGEWISE AND DON'T GO THERE AGAIN. BECAUSE WHEN I LOOKED AT IT, ITS
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A LITTLE BIT DIFFICULT. TO SIMPLIFY THIS IS BETTER.THAT'S A KEY THING THAT WE WANT TO DO.
MAKE IT READABLE DOCUMENT FOR EVERYBODY BUT REALLY A PLAN THAT'S GOING TO BE IMPLEMENTED. IMPLEMENTATION BEING THAT KEY
COMPONENT THAT WE GOT. >> IMPLEMENTATION INCLUDES TRAFFIC. AND PERFORMANCE.
>> I HAVE A DIFFERENT APPROACH. KELLY, DO YOU HAVE A COPY OF
THAT E-MAIL YOU SENT ME TODAY? >> IN MY BRAIN.
>> YOU CAN'T PUT IT UP ON THE BOARD.
I ASK KELLY TO SEND ME A LIST OF THE CURRENT COMPREHENSIVE PLAN ISSUES THAT WE'VE -- THAT ARE FACING THE CITY OR PROBLEMS THAT THEY HAD WITH THE PLAN. ALSO WITH THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE. MY GOAL WOULD BE TO LOOK AT THEM SPECIFICALLY AND LET'S ADIRECTION THEM.
APPARENTLY THOSE NEED TO BE CLEANED UP OR FIXED UP OR W WHATEVER. IF WE START THOSE.
THIS APPEARS TO BE A TOTAL REWRITE OF THE PLAN.
LET'S MOVE ON SO WE CAN MEASURE THOSE GOALS WITHIN THE NEXT 3, 6 OR 12 MONTHS. WHILE I WAS LOOKING AT I RAN ACROSS SOMETHING SEND TO US LAST YEAR REGARDING.
AND I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S BEEN ANY NEW STUDIES DONE BUT APPARENTLY THE SEPTEMBERING TANKS I THINK MOST OF THOSE ARE BETWEEN JASMINE AND SADDLER ON THE EAST AND WEST SIDE OF THE ROAD ARE CAUSING A LOT OF THE POLLUTION.
EYE ALWAYS KEEP ADDRESSING WE KEEP GIVING WATER AND SEWER SIGNING WATER AND SEWER OUTSIDE STILL LIMITS.
I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THOSE PROPERTIES START TO DEVELOP UNDER OUR RULES AND OUR BUILDING OUR RULES ENVIRONMENTAL ET CETERA RATHER THAN UNDER THE COUNTY WHICH I BELIEVE IS NOT AS STRINGENT AS WE ARE. I WOULD LIKE TO SEE BOTH PROPERTIES, AGAIN BETWEEN SADDLER AND JASMINE BROUGHT INTO THE CITY. BECAUSE I THINK WE JUST HAVE AN ISSUE WITH SEPTIC TANKS ON ALLIGATOR CREEK AND WITH GLOBAL WARMING. WE HAVE WATER RISE.
WE SHOW PICTURES DOWN ON FRONT STREET.
IF WE GET SOME ENVIRONMENTAL ISSUE TAKING CARE OF.
IT WILL AFFECT OUR AQUIFIER AND WATER AND OTHER THINGS.
THOSE MAY HAVE LONG-TERM GOALS. I THINK THOSE ARE CRITICALLY IMPORTANT. I WOULD ABSOLUTELY AGREE WITH
>> BUT THERE ARE COMPONENTS THAT OUGHT TO BE LOOKED AT THEY GO HAND IN HAND WITH THAT. APPARENTLY WE'RE CREATING ENCLAVES. THEY WILL BE BROUGHT INTO THE HOSPITAL THE LAST TIME. WE HAVE NOW TWO AREAS ON THE LEFT AND SOUTH END OF THE HOSPITAL.
THERE'S A CIRCLE BY THE CITY. WE'RE EXTENDING WATER AND SEWER OUT ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE RAILROAD TRACKS ALMOST DOWN TO THE BRIDGE. AND I THINK TWO AND THREE MEETINGS AGO IT WAS VOTED TO EXTEND WATER AND SEWER IN THAT AREA. EVENTUALLY ALL OF THE AREAS THAT CURRENTLY ON SEPTIC TANK SHOULD BE ON WATER AND SEWER.
WE SHOULD HAVE SAY HOW WE DEVELOP IT.
CERTAINLY THAT'S A TOPIC OF DISCUSSION SIX YEARS I'VE BEEN IN THE CITY. AND I KNOW MUCH LONGER.
THAT'S ONE OF THE -- WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO HERE IS DIAL IN ON THOSE AREAS WHERE WE CAN STRENGTHEN OUR INNER GOVERNMENT COORDINATION WITH THE COUNTY AND CREATE POLICIES THAT DIRECT THOSE KINDS OF VERY CLEAR GUIDELINES.
>> WITH WE GO BACK TO THAT? >> ANYTHING ELSE -- IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE KIND OF BROADER LEVEL LOOKING IN WHERE WE -- WHAT WE WANT TO ACCOMPLISH?
>> I THINK YOU MENTIONED EARLIER ABOUT STAKEHOLDERS.
THERE'S A LOT OF STAKEHOLDERS IN THE COMMUNITY.
AND IT'S RESIDENTS. SITES A SMALL BUSINESS PEOPLE.
INDUSTRIES, THE SCHOOLS THE CHURCHES WHATEVER.
YOU NEED TO MAKE SURE IT'S A PLAN THAT ENCOMPASSING ALL THEIR
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INPUT AND FEEDBACK AND WORKS. >> I'LL ADD ONE MORE ITEM JUST AS A THOUGHT PROCESS. WE HAVE BASICALLY 12 SECTIONS.
AND I THINK IT WOULD BEHOOVE US AS A TEAM HERE AS WELL AS THE CITY TO RANK 1-2, WHERE WOULD YOU WANT TO START IF YOU HAD TO PICK ONE PLACE. AND I THINK I FOUND SOME CASES YOU MAY NOT WANT TO PICK THE MOST COMPLEX ITEM AS BEING YOUR FIRST. GET THE TEAM UP AND RUNNING.
GET PLENTY OF GREASE IN THE WHEEL SO TO SPEAK.
YOU CAN WALK AWAY WITH SENSE OF SUCCESS IF YOU WANT TO CALL IT.
NOT THREE OF THE 12 OUT THEN YOU GO AFTER THE COMPLEX ONCE.
WHAT MARK WAS TALKING ABOUT. YOU MAY FIND A LOT OF THE ITEMS WILL FALL ON ONE OR TWO OF THOSE GROUPS.
THEY WILL NOT BE SCATTERED ALL OVER.
>> THEY BROUGHT THIS POINT -- ARE YOU REWRITING THE
PLAN OR FIXING IT? >> IT'S TWO FUNDAMENTALLY DIFFERENT APPROACHES. THAT'S THE GOAL OF THIS MEETING.
WE'LL GET TO THAT KIND END QUESTION.
>> ALL THAT'S SEPARATE ALL THIS PART OF REWRITE -- YOU COME TO
THAT FUNDAMENTAL. >> CERTAINLY AGAINST MY MISSION.
THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DIAL IN LEER HERE TONIGHT.
WE HAVE AWARD WINNING PLAN THAT HAS POLICIES AND WHERE DO WE WANT TO SPEND OUR FOCUS IN KNOWING THAT AS KELLY MENTIONED BASED ON OUR PROJECTIONS OUR DEVELOPMENT OVER THE NEXT TEN TO 15 YEAR IS REALLY GOING TO BE RAMPED UP.
KNOWING THAT YOU'VE GOT YOUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN BUT YOU HAVE TO HAVE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE WHERE YOU CAN IMPLEMENT THESE COMMUNITY GOALS AND KIND OF FIGURE OUT WHERE WE WANT TO SPEND OUR FOCUS ON CERTAIN ELEMENTS OF THE PLAN AND HOW DO WE MAKE THE IMPLEMENTATION INTO THE BILL.
>> I BELIEVE THAT WE TAKE WHAT WE TALKED AND EVEN IF WE DO A REWRITE BECAUSE OF TIME AND BUDGET WE CAN PICK SOME OF THE COMPONENTS AND USE THEM. WE CAN PUT THE OTHER DASH BOARD.
WE CAN PUT IN WHETHER THERE'S A MAJOR OR MINOR REWRIGHT.
SOME OF THIS THINGS THAT WE ABSOLUTELY CAN ATTACK IN AND I CLUNED WHATEVER LEVEL WHAT WE END UP DOING.
>> AGAIN I'M LOOKING TO REWRITE THE PLAN.
>> I WANT ADDRESS WHAT WE HAVE. WE SPENT HOW MANY MONTHS OR SIX MONTHS DO A YEAR REWRITING THE LAST ONE.
WE TOOK EACH PART OF THE PLAN AND DEVELOPED IT ACTUALLY SPENT A LOT OF TIME AND ENERGY ON IT. IT CAME OUT WELL.
I WOULD LIKE TO BUILD ON WHAT WE HAVE.
>> I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE ONE OTHER COMMENT.
THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE CURRENTLY WRITTEN TOTALLY UNUSABLE BY THE COMMON MAN. THERE'S FORMATTING ISSUES.
IT'S TOTALLY UNUSEFUL. COMMON MAN OR WOMEN CAN'T USE THAT PLAN. THEN THERE'S THINGS -- YOU HAVE TO BE COGNIZANT IF YOU WANT TO DO ONE THING.
YOU HAVE TO LOOK HERE AND HERE AND HERE.
THAT'S ONE MAJOR COMPONENT THAT WE WANT TO FOCUS ON WHEN LOOKING AT THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN STREAMLINING AND MAKE IT USER
FRIENDLY. >> WHAT ARE THE OPTION MORE LIMITED BUDGET WOULD BE THAT WE WOULD USE THE RESOURCES AND THE STAFF AND SOME COMMUNITY INPUT. AND WE WOULD FOCUS ON THE COMP PLAN WITH MAYBE ONE OR TWO SECTION THAT REQUIRE SOME ADDITIONAL EXPERT LIKE INTERMODAL AS AN EXAMPLE.
WE DON'T HAVE TRANSPORTATION EXPERTS ON STAFF.
THE MAJORITY OF THE COMP PLAN WOULD BE DONE AND THAT WITH LIMITED CONSULTANT SERVICES. THE FOCUS THAT WE WOULD CONSULTANT IN FOR WOULD BE TO WORK ON MAKING THAT LBC WHAT WE
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WANT IT TO BE. AND TO CLEAN IT UP.MAKE IT EASIER TO READ MORE SUSTAINABLE.
PUT THE PIECES TOGETHER. AND THAT'S AN OPTION IN TERMS OF HOW YOU APPROACH A PROJECT THAT WE DESIGN.
>> WHAT I THINK ABOUT IS WHEN WE'RE IN BUSINESS AND WE'RE EMPLOYED TO DO THIS TYPE OF TEAM WORK, YOU KNOW, WE GET A SPECIAL TEAM AND OUR BOSSES ALL SEND US OFF TO ROOM OR CONFERENCE ROOM AND SAY DON'T COME BACK UNTIL YOU GOT A PLAN.
WE ARE A GROUP OF VOLUNTEERS. AND WE ALL HAVE OTHER LIVES AND OTHER COMMITMENTS AND I'VE JUST TAKEN ON.
SO UNDERSTANDING HOW MUCH TIME A IS INVOLVED IN DOING JUST WHAT MARK IS SUGGESTING WHICH JUST IDENTIFYING THE KEY AREAS THAT WE HAVE ISSUES WITH AND WORKING ON THOSE WHICH FALLS BACK TO A RANKING. IF YOU HAVE SO MANY ISSUES.
MAYBE THAT'S THE NUMBER ONE ELEMENT WE GO FOR.
WHEN YOU'VE GOT A GROUP OF VOLUNTEERS AND YOU'RE SAYING WE'VE GOT TO GO THROUGH PAGES AND PAGES AND DOCUMENTS AND DOCUMENTS TO TRY TO PULL THIS TOGETHER, YOU'RE TALKING HOURS AND HOURS. NOT ONLY JUST HOMEWORK.
BUT THEN COMING BACK AND THEN GETTING CONSENSUS WITH THE PUBLIC WITH HAVING PUBLIC MEETING.
GETTING FEEDBACK. MARRYING ALL THAT TOGETHER AND THEN PRODUCING THAT ELEMENT THAT THEN WE'VE GOT TO TAKE TO THE CITY COMMISSION WHEN WE'RE FINISHED.
>> JUST TO KEEP US ON. I THINK ALL ENDS UP BILLING TOGETHER IN TERMS OF THE PROCESS.
THERE'S OUTCOMES FOR TONIGHT. WE WANTED TO HAVE YOU IDENTIFY WHAT ARE THOSE KEY THEMES FIRST AND FOREMOST THAT YOU SEE YOU HAVE BEEN ABLE TO REVIEW AND DOCUMENT THAT HAVE BEEN PROVIDED AND LOOKING AT THE EXISTING COMP PLAN AND THEN REALLY TALK ABOUT LEVERAGING OUR LIMITED DOLLARS. WHICH IS REALLY WHAT THE CONVERSATION IS STARTING TO HEAD.
I CAN SEE WHERE IT IS GOING. I DON'T WANT TO STOP THAT.
I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE GET THE ELEMENTS OUT OF THIS MEETING AND THEN IT WILL LEAD US INTO A CONVERSATION ABOUT OUR GOALS AND RESPONSIBILITIES A AND HOW THIS COMES TOGETHER.
PARTICULARLY RELATED TO REALLY WIDESPREAD STAKEHOLDER INPUT AND ENGAGEMENT. I THINK IF WE TRY TO SOURCE IT A LITTLE BIT MORE FOCUS ON THE INITIAL STEP IS TO IDENTIFY WHAT IS IF KEY THEMES. THAT WAS REALLY THE PURPOSE OF THAT. SO WE COULD THINK WHERE WE WANT TO BE ALTERNT THE END OF THIS PROCESS.
ANOTHER COMPONENT WHAT ARE THE REALLY BIG TOPIC AREAS THAT WE NEED TO HONE IN ON AND FOCUS WHEN WE'RE REVIEWING THE DOCUMENTS IN TOTAL. AND THEN THAT WILL START TO GET INTO THE ONE QUESTION I HAVE HERE.
ARE WE FOCUSED MORE ON QUALITY OR IMPLEMENTATION WHERE DO WE WANT TO SPEND THE DOLLAR. LET'S STAY ON TASK FIRST.
I DIDN'T MEAN TO INTERRUPT. >> THAT'S ALL RIGHT.
>> I WANT TO KEEP US ON TRACK SO WE CAN GET THROUGH THIS AND ALSO
GET WHAT WE ARE HOPING FOR. >> I WOULD LIKE TO MENTION ONE THING IN TERMS OF THE BROAD RESPONSE TO THE QUESTION.
THAT WE HAVEN'T MENTIONED YET AND I THINK IT'S CRITICALLY IMPORTANT. I THINK IT'S CRITICALLY IMPORTANT FOR OUR QUALITY OF LIFE HERE.
I THINK IT'S CRITICALLY IMPORTANT FOR OUR ECONOMY ON THIS ISLAND. IN FERNANDINA BEACH.
THAT'S THE CHARACTER OF THE COMMUNITY.
THE CHARACTER OF THE COMMUNITY IS KRITDCALLY IMPORTANT THIS THE WHAT PEOPLE COME HERE FOR. IT'S A SAFE PLACE.
IT'S AN EASILY MANEUVERABLE PLACE.
IT'S BEAUTIFUL. WE'VE GOT THE BEACHES.
AND THE OLD SECTION OF TOWN, ALL THIS IS IMPORTANT BEYOND JUST PERSONAL PLEASURE IT'S IMPORTANT FOR AS BASIS FOR OUR ECONOMY AS WELL. IT FEEDS INTO A LOT OF DIFFERENT
>> TO BUILD ON THAT AND TO BUILD ON WHAT WE TOUCHED ON.
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IT'S KIND OF IDENTIFYING MAJOR THEMES.STAFF ENTERED THE DAY-TO-DAY WORKING OF THE CITY.
AND LOOKING AT THE EVALUATION REPORT AND THAT WHOLE PROCESS.
OUTLINE FOUR MAJOR THEMES THAT WERE CONTINUOUS THROUGHOUT THAT WHOLE PROCESS. ONE THEME RESILIENCY.
OBVIOUSLY WE ALL SAW THE IMPACT IT HAD ON DOWNTOWN AND OTHER TRIBUTARIES AND HOW DO WE ADDRESS THAT RESILIENCY THROUGH LOW-IMPACT DEVELOP STANDARD. WE HAVE LOTS TO TALK ABOUT LOW DEVELOPMENT IMPACT STANDARD. REALLY IMPLEMENTING THOSE IN OUR CODE. CERTAINLY PROTECTION OF NATURAL RESOURCES. OUR ENVIRONMENT.
OUR DOWNTOWN. OUR HISTORIC DISTRICT.
AND EVEN THOUGH CULTURAL RESOURCES THAT AREN'T IN THOSE REALLY KEY DEFINED HISTORIC DISTRICTS.
THE CITY HAS DIFFERENT RESOURCES THAT THOSE CITIZENS WANT PROTECTED. THAT GOES TO THE COMMUNITY CHARACTER. THAT SENSE OF PLACE AND WANTING TO PRESERVE WHAT MAKE FERNANDINA, FERNANDINA.
AND THAT'S ONE OF THE BIGGEST COMPONENT.
NEIGHBORHOOD PLANNING. WE HAVE OTHER NEIGHBORHOODS WITHIN THE CITY THAT HAVE THEIR OWN DYNAMIC THAT ARE COMPLETELY YOU KNOW -- REALLY HAVE THEIR OWN MARKET.
WE WANTED TO MAINTAIN THOSE PLACES.
WE DON'T WANT TO WE WANT TO AGAIN MAINTAIN THE PLACES.
AND NOT SEE THEM OVERRUN. KEEP THE COMMUNITY CHARACTER.
INTERGOVERNMENTAL COORDINATION THAT'S A COMPONENT.
THAT'S ONE THING THAT I REALLY WANT TO FOCUS ON.
ON HOW WE MAKE SURE WE HAVE THAT GOOD RELATIONSHIP WITH THE COUNTY. HOW WE HAVE THE POLICIES IN PLACE THAT MAKE THOSE THINGS HAPPEN.
WHEN SOMEONE WANT IN THE CITY WHETHER CONTIGUOUS OR IDENTIFIED LOCAL PLANNING AGENCY THE TRANSPORTATION.
MULTI-MODAL TRANSPORTATION. WE'VE ALL SEEN THE INCREASE IN TRAFFIC JUST GENERALLY ON THE ISLAND.
BUT WE KNOW WHAT'S COMING OFF THE ISLAND.
WE KNOW THOSE TRIPS WILL BE COMING OFF THE ISLAND TO VISIT OUR BEAUTIFUL ISLAND WE'VE GOT TO STRENGTHEN OUR MODAL NETWORK.
THAT'S WHERE STAFF FEELS WE DO NEED EXPERT HELP.
PLANNING THAT TRANSPORTATION COMPONENT.
THOSE ARE THE KEY THINGS THAT WE WANT TO TOUCH ON.
DID ANYBODY HAVE ANY THOUGHT. >> YOU WANT TO IDENTIFY NEIGHBORHOODS LIKE HISTORIC DISTRICT.
WHATEVER THAT DISTRICT WHERE PUBLIC AND PASHLG.
NORTH BEACH. IT'S LIKE A UNIQUE LITTLE -- SOUTH FLETCHER AS WELL.
>> IT'S ALMOST A CULTURE. >> WE DO FOCUS WE DO GROUPS.
WHAT'S IMPORTANT TO THOSE PEOPLE.
>> THAT'S THE STATE BOARDER BUY IN.
REALLY BUILDING THAT PLAN AND BUILDING THAT CONSENSUS.
WE WILL WORK TOWARD IMPLEMENTING THAT.
>> I GUESS THE ONLY THING I WOULD STAY BASED ON EVERYTHING I HEARD. IT MAY BE WORTH.
MAYBE IT'S A DRILL. WHAT WE KNOW NOW.
I THINK WE NEED THAT INPUT FROM THE CITY STAFF.
THIS IS IT. THEN YOU PEEL THE ONION BACK ANOTHER LAYER. LIKE WHAT DID.
YOU MAY FIND OKAY HERE'S OVER AND OVER AGAIN.
IT MAY BE TOUGH TO READ. IT'S MORE LIKE A TEXTBOOK.
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>> THAT'S NOT NECESSARILY A CAUSE WE WE LEE THAT ONE ALONE.
>> WE TALK ABOUT ENFORCEMENT. I SIT THROUGH THE MEETING AND PEOPLE HAD DIFFERENT DIFFERENT COMMENTS OR COMPLAINT.
THE LADY FACILITATING THAT'S ALREADY IN THERE.
ALL THE THINGS PEOPLE KEPT SAYING THAT'S -- THAT'S A LOT OF THE THINGS THAT ARE ON THE FACILITATIVE NOTES THE MAJORITY
OF THEM ARE IN THERE. >> I AGREE.
THE WORD ACCOUNTABILITY. ENFORCEMENT HAS ONE MEETING TO IT. ACCOUNTABILITY HAS ANOTHER ONE.
IF YOU ARE THE PUBLICLY THE DOCUMENT.
IF I AM READING THIS AND I CALL AND THE RESPONSE IS WE ALREADY KNOW THAT. BUT I WANT TO KNOW WHO AND WHEN.
AND HOW MANY TIMES. SOMEBODY IS RAISING THE ISSUE BECAUSE THEY ARE NOT SEEING IT. THEN YOU GET INTO WHAT I CALL PUBLIC TRUST. WHICH IS A BIG ISSUE.
>> THAT'S WHY I USE THE WORD THE PERSON WE WOULD MEASURE HOW MANY TIMES. I THINK THAT'S HUGE.
A REALLY BIG DIFFERENT WHEN YOU BUILD.
SO UNDERSTAND ENFORCEMENT. I THINK ANOTHER WAY WHAT'S NOTABLE. AND ALONG THOSE SAME LINES, BECAUSE THERE'S A LOT OF READING.
I CERTAINLY UNDERSTAND WHERE STAFF IS COMING FROM IN TERMS OF TAKE THAT ON. THERE'S TIME WHEN I READ IT I WONDERED SOME THINGS THAT ARE IN THERE.
IF THERE'S SOME THINGS THAT ARE IN THERE, THAT DON'T NEED TO BE THERE BECAUSE IT'S JUST YOUR STANDARD PART OF YOUR JOB.
AN EXAMPLE THAT I WOULD GIVE IS THAT IN SCHOOL SYSTEMS WHERE YOU WRITE STRATEGIC PLANS. WE DON'T WRITE THE WHOLE THIRD GRADE CURRICULUM. THAT'S GIVEN.
BUT YOU HAVE TO IMPLEMENT IT. THERE'S OTHER PIECES OF A READING AS A WHOLE THAT WE WOULD DO AND THAT'S MEASURABLE.
THERE'S TIMES WHEN I WOULD READ THIS AND I WOULD THINK MAYBE THAT NEEDS TO BE ON LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE AS OPPOSED TO THE TRANSPORTATION. I DON'T HAVE THE -- I WOULD LOOK TO YOU ALL FOR THAT KIND OF INPUT.
DO YOU UNDERSTAND WHERE I AM AT. >> I UNDERSTAND.
>> THAT CERTAINLY INCLUDE VERY -- ALL THE LAWS OF THE STATE AND SO ON. LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE IS NOW WHERE YOU PUT THE MEAT ON THE BONES OPERATING DOCUMENT.
>> I THINK IT'S MORE SPECIFIC THAN THIS CONSTITUTION.
I JUST THERE'S TIME WHEN IT'S JUST SO MUCH.
IN MY MIND I WOULD THINK THIS SHOULD BE IN THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE AS OPPOSED. I WOULD NEED THE STAFF TO SAY THAT. WALLET ME ASK THIS QUESTION.
>> THE LIST YOU PUT TOGETHER IS THAT SOMETHING YOU CAN SEND OUT
TO ALL OF US? >> IT'S EFFECTIVELY THE SAME KEY THING JAKE REVIEWED WITH YOU. IT'S WRITTEN IN A WAY HE COULD VIEW IT. THE OTHER PIECE I SENT TO HIM MY WHITE BOARD IN MY OFFICE THAT I USE FOR TRACKING AS A TOOL TO
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SEE LIKE, THIS ISSUE HAS COME UP.IT'S A REALLY INFORMAL. >> I'M HAPPY TO FORWARD IT TO
YOU. >> IT'S SOMETHING I WOULD LIKE TO LOOK AT. I DON'T KNOW WHAT HAPPENED SINCE WE DID THE MU -- CORRIDOR FOR H STREET.
NOW WE DID TWO YEARS PLUS WHAT'S GOING ON THERE, WHAT PROBLEMS ARE WE HAVING. THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING SPECIFICALLY THAT I WOULDN'T MIND GETTING BACK INTO AND TRYING TO STRAIGHTEN THAT OUT. THAT'S A BIG ISSUE THAT WE ADDRESSED AND MADE SOME MAJOR CHANGES.
NOW WE'RE SEEING PROGRESS AND ISSUES THERE.
THEY WOULD BE SPECIFIC TO THAT DISTRICT.
YOU KNOW IF YOU TALK ABOUT SPECIFIC AREA.
THAT WOULD BE ONE WE TAKE SIX OR NINE MONTHS TO DEVELOP THAT.
THERE'S COMPLEXITY OF CHANGE THAT NEEDS TO HAPPEN TO THEM.
>> FOR THE PURPOSE OF THIS MEETING, I THINK IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT THAT IN ORDER FOR TO US DO THAT KIND OF GIVE YOU THAT INFORMATION BACK WE KNOW WHERE YOU WANT US TO GO DIRECTIONWISE.
BECAUSE IF YOU REALLY WANT FOCUS LET'S SAY ON RESILIENCY AND YOU WANT RESILIENCY TIED TO FLOODING AND NOT NECESSARILY FINANCIAL RESILIENCY. THEN WE WILL FOCUS IN ON THE COASTAL AND CONSERVATION MANAGEMENT ELEMENT.
THAT HITS ON A NUMBER OF THINGS THAT COME UP AS MAJOR THEME.
WHEREAS IF WE'RE REALLY FOCUSING ON THE FINANCIAL RESILIENCY AND THE HELP OF THE CITY THERE'S TWO AREAS THAT WE WANT TO FOCUS IN ON AND IT'S WITHIN FUTURE LAND USE DEVELOPMENT AND CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT. THE PROCESS IS ASSOCIATED WITH THOSE TWO AREAS. IT DEPENDS.
THAT'S -- AT THIS POINT WE WANT TO THINK MORE ABOUT WHAT ARE THOSE BIGGER THEMES THEN WE CAN TALK TO YOU MORE ABOUT WHERE THE MOST WORK NEEDS TO BE DONE WITHIN THE EXISTING DOCUMENT.
>> OKAY. >> THE PUBLIC HAS SPOKEN WITH THESE NOTE. WE DO HAVE COMMUNITY BUY IN.
THEY BROUGHT THEIR VISION AND CONCERNS TO US WITH ALL THESE NOTES. I FEEL LIKE MAYBE A PRODUCT SHOULD BE SOMEBODY IDENTIFYING THE REST OF GROUP IDENTIFY WHERE THEY ALREADY ARE IN THE PLAN AND WHAT COULD BE TEWEAKED SO THEIR CONCERNS ARE MET. I DON'T WANT TO START THIS WHOLE THING. [INAUDIBLE] WE HAVE A LOT OF PEOPLE COME TO THESE.
WE GO THROUGH THE NOTES AND CONCERNS.
THE VERBIAGE TO HELP WITH THESE. >> WHAT I'M HEARING BOTH FROM JENNY GETTING ADDITIONAL ANALYSIS THAT PEEKS WHERE ARE WE AT WITH THE PREVIOUSLY IDENTIFIED CONCERNS FROM 2019.
HOW DOES THAT WORK WITH OUR CURRENT COMP PLAN AND HOW HAVE WE SUCCESSFULLY OR NONSUCCESSFULLY ACCOMPLISHED ADDRESSING THOSE THINGS. THE OTHER PIECE IF WE WANT TO FOCUS IN ON SOME OF THE MAJOR THEMES, WHAT IS THE DEGREE OF CHANGE THAT'S NECESSARY? IS FULL REVISION OR IS IT
TWEAKING A COUPLE OF POLICIES? >> I SORT OF GOING IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION. UNTIL WE KNOW WHAT WE DON'T HAVE, OR DO HAVE. I DON'T KNOW THAT WE CAN GIVE
DIRECTION. >> YOU ALMOST NEED DASH BOARD OF
>> AND SOME VIEW OF THE ISSUE THAT CAME OUT OF THE MEETING ARE REVIEWS. EVEN IF WE COULD BUMP THEM AND SAY THESE ISSUES ARE VALID ISSUE AND THEY IMPACT THE PLANNING.
OR ONLY IMPACT ONE SECTION. MAYBE THEY BECOME HIGH, MEDIUM AND LOW COMPLEXITY. GIVE US ROAD MAP TO SEE WHERE WE NEED TO WORK. I AGREE WITH JENNY WE NEED TO USE WHAT WE HAVE AVAILABLE TO US TODAY WHETHER THE LIST ON THE
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WHITE BOARD. PAR, THE DAY-TO-DAY DEALING THAT YOU HAVE. AND BEGIN TO UNDERSTAND BY SECTION AND BY ISSUE WHERE WHERE THE WORK REALLY IS.>> STAFF, SET PRIORITIES. YOU EXPECT STAFF TO GO THROUGH COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND PRIORITIZE CERTAIN ELEMENTS AND THEN YOU KNOW ICS BEING HELPERS. YOU KNOW TO DELVE INTO SOME OF THE AREAS. IF WE HAVE MEETING, YOU CAN DO WHATEVER. WORK IT OUT.
>> YES. >> SAME WITH THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE. UNTIL WE GET THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. WE DIDN'T TALK ABOUT LAND
DEVELOPMENT. >> THEY WILL WORK HAND IN HAND.
>> IN THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. EVERYTHING IS HAPPENED WHAT IN 20 YEARS. HAS BEEN BASED ON THE TWO PLANS THAT WE HAVE IN EXISTENCE NOW. THAT GOES TO HEIGHT, DENSITY.
SET BACK. ALL OF THOSE ELEMENTS.
THAT'S PART OF THIS OVERALL VISION.
>> WE JUST NEED TO SEE -- [INAUDIBLE]
>> BETWEEN WHAT IS THERE TODAY. WHAT ARE -- WHAT ARE THE ISSUES THAT CAME OUT OF HERE. WHAT ARE THE ISSUES YOU CONTINUE TO DEAL WITH EVERY DAY AND THEN WHAT KIND OF PRIORITIZATION YOU
SEE ON -- >> AND WHAT CONFLICTS WE HAVE.
>> BUT ALSO HOW MUCH WORK THAT WILL BE TO RESOLVE.
>> ABSOLUTELY. >> IT COULD BE THIS MUCH OR THIS MUCH. AND THAT'S WHEN THIS GROUP HAS TO DECIDE WHEN YOU KNOW DO WE WHAT DO WE DO.
HOW DO WE MAKE SURE THAT WE STAY ON THE PATH.
AND YOU KNOW IT'S REMINDS ME OF THAT.
THERE'S SOME FUNDING FOR SOME HELP IN THIS AND HOW WE DECIDE WE WANT TO USE THE FUNDING IS BASED ON THIS THE SIZE OF THE
PIE THAT WE'VE GOT -- >> AND WHERE DO WE FEEL COMFORTABLE THAT THE STAFF AND US AND COMMUNITY INPUT THIS COMPONENT VERSES NOW I NEED TO BRING A MORE -- IT NEED TO BRING FRESH EYES TO THE OTHER COMPONENTS.
WE NEED TO UNDERSTAND HOW BIG THE PROJECT IS.
THAT'S WHAT WE ARE STRUGGLING WITH.
WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT FUNDING. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU TALK ABOUT ADDING ADDITIONAL PERSON TO THE STAFF.
YOU DON'T RECEIVE THIS IT'S PROBABLY BART OF THE REWRITE.
THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE. THE CITY WOULD WANT TO HIRE SOMEONE WITH THE LIMITED TIME FRAME OVER A YEAR OR TWO YEARS OR WHATEVER THAT WOULD BE. I DON'T KNOW IF THE STAFF HAS THE ABILITY TO HAVE SOMEONE WORK ON IT SO THEY PROVIDE US WITH THE PRIORITY AND SOME DIRECTION BECAUSE WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT BRINGING IN A WHOLE KNEW GROUP I THINK GENERALLY WE CUT THE DOCUMENT TO PIECES AND REWRITE IT.
WE HAVE THAT. >> I'M NOT TALK ABOUT CONSULTING COMPANY. THAT WOULD COME IN AND SAY I WILL TAKE THIS. I WILL SEE YOU IN SIX WEEKS.
BRING IN ONE OR TWO CONSULTANTS AT THAT TIME BASIS.
TO SAY I NEED HELP WITH INTERMODAL TRANSPORTATION.
AND HERE'S THE COMPONENT THAT WE ARE MOST CONCERNED ABOUT.
I NEED YOU TO HELP WITH THIS BUT ALSO WITH THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE REWRITE THAT GOES ALONG WITH IT.
I THINK YOU CAN USE CONSULTANT ON TARGETED BASIS.
I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT BRINGING IN ONE PERSON.
HAVE A GROUP THAT WORKS WITH YOU OVERTIME.
YOU BECOME PARTNERS BUT NOT WE'RE THEY ARE NOT THERE.
>> I THINK TO GO BACK TO SOME. YOU HAVE TO DECIDE.
I THINK THAT WAS THE KEY WITH THE MAJOR THINGS.
WE WANT TO FOCUS IN ON THAT. THOSE COMPONENTS SET A SCOPE KNOW WHERE THE DIFFERENCES ARE BASED ON PROCESS.
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THAT'S ESTABLISHMENT FOR US TO PROVIDE TOWARD WHERE THESE -- WHERE FROM TLINGS ADDRESSED.WHERE WE NEED TO MAKE THE CHANGES.
IT'S REALLY KIND OF DEFINING OUR SCOPE AS THE MAJOR ISSUES AND HOW THEY RELATE TO OVERALL PLAN. SO THAT KNOW WHEN WE LOOK AT THE PLAN WE LOOK AT IT UNDER THIS CONTEXT.
CAN YOU GUYS HAVE TIME FOR ALL THIS?
>> LET'S GET INTO -- LET'S TALK ABOUT FIRST IS THERE CONSENSUS AROUND WHAT STAFF HAS IDENTIFIED AT THE MAJOR THEMES.
ARE THERE OTHER AREAS THAT YOU THINK NEED TO BE INCORPORATED AS WE'RE THINKING ABOUT THIS OVERALL.
SORT OF LARGER LEVEL? IS THERE SOMETHING MISSING WE HAVEN'T PICKED UP ON? WOULDN'T THAT BE UNDER
TRANSPORTATION. >> INTERMODAL TRANSPORTATION.
>> PORT BY STATUTE HAS TO FALL UNDER THE CONVERSATION ELEMENT.
WHENEVER WE GET INTO ELEMENT IT WOULD BECOME ELEMENT OF CONSERVATION COASTAL BAGMENT. THERE'S INTERFACES ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT ENTER SUSPECTIVE. SPECIFIC TO PORT THAT'S HOW BY
LAW HAS TO BE INCORPORATED. >> THE POINT I -- PORT HASN'T
BEEN UPDATED SINCE 2005. >> SINCE BEFORE THAT.
>> NOT WANTING TO TEAL WITH THE CITY.
UNTIL THAT ISSUE GET RESOLVED. >> IT WAS 2002.
BECAUSE IT CAME IN AFTER 9/11. 2004.
I REMEMBER THAT ONE. I DON'T KNOW IF WE CHANGED.
>> DO WE WANT TO ADD IN THE PORT AS A MAJOR THEME? IS THERE CONSENSUS OR LEAVE VARIABLE OUTLIER.
>> IT WAS PART OF THE CONVERSATION A BIG CONVERSATION DURING THE YEAR. IT WAS.
BUT MORE -- AT THAT TIME. THAT CONVERSATION MORE ABOUT CONCERNS RELATIVE TO EXISTING OPERATIONS.
AND SOME OF THE LOGISTICS ON A DAY IN AND DAY OUT BASIS.
>> BUT IT GETS BACK TO WHAT MEMBER SCHAFFER WAS SAYING IF YOU TAKE THE NOTES FROM THE CONVERSATIONS AND TIE THAT BACK TO THOSE MAJOR THEMES OR WHERE THEY ARE ACTUALLY ACCOMPLISHED OR REFERENCED IN OUR COMP PLAN, AT LEAST THOSE ARE THINGS THAT WE KNOW THAT ALREADY BEING ADDRESSED.
THAT WOULD HELP US WITH THIS SCOPE.
HOW BIG THAT PIE IS. THAT'S LOT OF WORK THERE RIGHT THERE. [INAUDIBLE] PUT THEM THIS GROUP WHAT THEY GO TO TOGETHER WHERE IT ALREADY IS.
JUST ADD VERBAGE OR CHECK IN IT'S ALREADY IN THERE.
>> AND WE'RE SATISFIED WITH IT. >> OR IT'S IN THERE BUT WE DON'T LIKE IT. I WILL GIVE YOU AN EXAMPLE.
ONE OF THE FIRST -- THIS IS THE FIRST FACILITATED NOTES.
I DON'T KNOW IF YOU CAN PULL THAT UP HERE.
THIS IS APRIL 23RD MEETING. LET'S JUST SAY FOR INSTANCE WE LOOK AT -- I WAS LOOKING AT THAT FOR HOUSING.
MAINTAIN CURRENT LEVEL OF SUBZIZE AND AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
THERE WAS CONSENSUS ON THAT COMMENT THAT OBSERVATION.
WHERE IS THAT IN OUR COMP PLAN AND HOW DO YOU ACTUALLY DETERMINE WHAT THE CURRENT LEVEL ON SUBSIDIZING AND AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND WHAT'S OUR GOAL FOR THAT?
>> WE COULD PUT NEXT TO IT WHERE IT IS FOUND.
YOU COULD PUBLISH IS -- IS >> TO START THE CONVERSATION.
TO SHOW THEM THIS WHAT WE THINK IS APPLICABLE TO THIS CONCERN.
IF YOU HAVE ANY OTHER COMMENTS LET US KNOW.
>> IT'S THE 23RD. >> WHAT TIME FRAME?
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>> ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT AFFORDABLE HOUSING?
>> UNDER THE FIRST MEETING. FIRST --
>> THAT'S NOT DOABLE. >> THAT'S PROBABLY BAD EXAMPLE.
>> WE CAN GO THROUGH AND PARCE THE FACILITATED NOTE AND ADD REFERENCES. IDENTIFICATION OF WHAT WE'VE INCLUDED AS MAJOR THEMES REALLY IS AN EFFORT TO ADDRESS THOSE
THINGS ON A LARGER LEVEL. >> BUT THERE'S SO MANY THINGS UNDERNEATH THEM THAT WERE ADDRESSED IN THE CONVERSATIONS THAT ARE STILL STICKING OUT THERE IN THE PUBLIC'S MIND.
I THINK THOSE ARE GOOD GENERAL SUMMATIONS.
BUT I'M LOOKING AT LETTER I WROTE TO MR. MARTIN AFTER THE LET'S SEE MAY I DATED MAY 13TH, 2019 WHERE WE ATTEND SELF OF US AFTER THESE MEETINGS. ATTENDED CITY COMMISSION MEETING
AND WAITED UNTIL THE -- >> IT'S BASICALLY THE VERY ENCAPSULIZED THINGS. ALL THE THINGS THAT WE TALKED ABOUT WEREN'T GOING TO BE ADDRESSED.
WHEN WE VOTED LAST MEETING ON WHAT WAS REQUIRED BY OUR LAW
>> I'M JUST STAFFED BY THE THREE.
THOSE THREE ITEMS DIDN'T ADDRESS THE ISSUE OF THE EAR.
BECAUSE -- THERE'S LINES AND LINES OF PAGES AND PAGES OF ISSUES THAT CITIZENS HAVE CONCERNED ABOUT.
AND FEEL VERY VEHEMENTLY THAT NEED TO BE ADDRESSED.
GOOD OR BAD. OR THAT WE CAN ADDRESS OR WE
CAN'T. >> ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I THINK WILL BE IMPORTANT IN TAKING THOSE NOTES IS CATEGORIZING WHERE THE CHANGE IS NEEDED.
WHERE THAT CHANGE MIGHT BE NEEDED IF NOT NECESSARILY COMP PLAN BASED OR LAND DEVELOPMENT SPECIFICALLY ENFORCEMENT.
IT MIGHT BE BETTER IN INTERGOVERNMENT COORDINATION.
REACHING OUT WITH LETTERS AND E-MAILS AND THEN FOLLOW THROUGH ON CERTAIN ACTIVITIES TO ACCOMPLISH A COMMUNITY IDENTIFIED CONCERN. I THINK PARCING OUT WHAT IS CONCERN BUT NOT NECESSARILY A LARGER POLICY LEVEL CONCERN.
VERSES OPERATIONAL CONCERNS. >> DOES THAT MAKE SENSE?
>> IF YOU CAN DO THAT. I WOULD USE THE TABLE.
THAT'S LAND DEVELOPMENT. >> YES.
>> AGAIN THAT'S A LOT OF WORK [INAUDIBLE] WE PUT IN THE ITEMS THAT NEED TO BE.
I DIDN'T WALK AWAY FROM THE TABLE SAYING WE DIDN'T WANT TO ADDRESS. THAT'S THE RERUN.
WHATEVER THE RERUN WAS. >> THAT'S EXACTLY RIGHT.
THAT'S WHAT WE AGREED TO. WE WILL GET THESE THINGS.
WE WILL DO THAT. NOW WE'VE GOT THIS -- WE ARE GOING TO ADDRESS THEM NEXT. THAT'S WHAT YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT. WE HAVE A DATABASE.
THEY ARE USER FRIENDLY MANNER. THE FIRST STEP WE NEED TO SEE HAPPEN IS WE NEED TO TAKE YOUR INFORMATION AS WELL AS WHATEVER ADDITIONAL INPUT THE STAFF MAY HAVE.
AND CATEGORIZE, CREATE CATEGORIZATION AND
PRIORITIZATION AND CRITICALITY. >> THAT MAKES SENSE.
THAT'S THE FIRST THING THAT HAS TO HAPPEN BEFORE WE CAN -- THAT HELPS US BEGIN TO UNDERSTAND THE SIZE OF THE PROBLEM.
ONCE WE DO THAT, THEN WE CAN SIT DOWN AND SAY -- I THINK THAT'S
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WHAT WE ARE SAYING. THEY ADDRESS THAT.>> BUT I THINK THE CRITICALNESS OF UNDERSTAND THAT SCOPE IS.
THAT PIE, HOW BIG IS THAT PIE THAT WE ARE ASKING US AND STAFF AND CONSULTANTS WHOEVER WE USE IS SO THAT A WE GOT A MEASURE.
WE HAVE TO KNOW IF WE HIRE CONSULTANT.
THIS IS WHAT WE WANT THEM TO SPECIFICALLY DO.
AND HOW DO WE KEEP THE LEADERSHIP OF THIS PROJECT GOING, HOW DO YOU KEEP THAT KEEPING ALL OF THE DETAILS GOING IN ONE DIRECTION SO THAT WE'RE NOT SORT OF SPLINTERING OFF AND GETTING DISTRACTED. WHICH TO ME COULD HAPPEN VERY EASILY IF WE AREN'T PRETTY FOCUSED ON WHAT IT IS THAT WE NEED. THE LAST THING I WILL SAY ABOUT THIS. I WORRY ABOUT THE TIME CONSTRAINTS OF OUR STAFF -- JUST BECAUSE OF THE NORMAL DAY-TO-DAY
STUFF. >> THAT WILL BE A REALLY GOOD MATRIX TO IDENTIFY AND TO SHOW THE PUBLIC WE WENT THROUGH EACH EACH ONE OF THESE COMMENTS. AND HERE'S WHERE THEY ARE ADDRESSED. EXACTLY WHERE WE MADE CHANGES TO TWEAK THE CURRENT LANGUAGE. THAT'S A GREAT TOOL THAT WE CAN REALLY BUILD. [INAUDIBLE]
TALK ABOUT THE PUBLIC TRUST. >> THEY KEEP A DIALOGUE.
IT HAS TO BE A DIALOGUE FOREMOST.
IN OTHER WORDS IF YOU PASS ME A PIECE OF PAPER AND YOU -- IT COMES ACROSS AS I TOLD YOU SO. IT'S ON PAGE 30 OF BLAH, BLAH, BLAH. AND I LOOKED AT PAGE 30 BUT I CAN'T FIND THE DOCUMENTATION THAT SUPPORTS IT.
THEN THAT WOULD BECOMES ANOTHER COMPONENT.
I THINK IT'S -- LOVE GOING THROUGH AND ACKNOWLEDGING WHAT ALL THE PUBLIC DID. I THINK THAT'S A GREAT REPORT.
I THINK IT'S REALLY REACHING OUT YOU KNOW TO PEOPLE WHO SHOWS YOU WHO LISTEN. THERE'S JUST ONE OPEN STEP.
THE OTHER PIECE OF IT THE ACCOUNTABILITY PIECE.
IT'S NOT JUST SAYING IT'S ON PAGE TWELVE.
THAT COMES ACROSS AS MY NUMBERS DO.
[INAUDIBLE] IT'S PUTTING ON THE LEVEL.
YES, WE CAN SHARE. SOME GOOD EXAMPLES ARE.
I'VE BEEN DOING A LOT OF READING ON THE TRANSPORTATION ELEMENT.
YOU WANT TO KNOW HOW MANY HOURS I'VE SPENT TRYING TO FIND THE DATA? NOT AN EASY TASK.
BUT THAT ALSO MEANS WHEN I WAS READING ANOTHER EXAMPLE.
I WAS READING THE TRANSPORTATION ELEMENT AND I'M SAYING AND I'M SEEING OH, BLAH, BLAH AND I SAY TO MYSELF.
I KNOW WE DID THAT. WHERE IS IT? THAT'S TWO-WAY STREET. THAT'S TAKING TO A DIFFERENT LEVEL. [INAUDIBLE] I THINK MOST PEOPLE IN THIS ROOM ARE AWARE THAT WE HAVE A GROUP THAT IS WORKING ON THE C COMPREHENSIVE PLAN TO PROVIDE INPUT. AND THREE OF US ARE HERE TODAY.
ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I WANTED TO SAY ABOUT THIS IS THAT WE
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AGREE WITH THESE PRIORITIES. I THINK THERE'S TWO THINGS THAT I WOULD ADD TO THAT. ONE IS THE HOUSING ISSUE.AND ONE IS THE ISSUE OF PUBLIC TRUST WHICH INCLUDE A LOT OF THINGS. I THINK WE'RE IN AGREEMENT OF PRIORITY. I WOULD ALSO SAY THAT THIS IS WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON IT SINCE EARLY MAY.
AND I THINK -- I TOLD SOMEONE YESTERDAY THAT WE WILL HAVE YOU KNOW SOME DECENT DRAFTS THAT WE CAN GIVE PEOPLE IN THE NEXT THREE WEEKS OR SO. BUT AND WE HAVE BEEN GOING OUT AND GETTING COMMUNITY VOLUNTEERS TO OUR EXPERTS IN CERTAIN FIELDS TO GIVE US INPUT AND EVALUATE WHAT WE ARE DOING.
TO GET BACK TO THE IDEA ABOUT EXPERTS, SOMETIMES WE HAVE EXPERTS IN THE COMMUNITY THAT WE COULD UTILIZE BUT SOMETIMES WE HAVE ON A VOLUNTEER BASIS, SOMETIMES WE DO NEED TO HIRE PEOPLE HIRE FOR SPECIFIC PURPOSES.
BUT WE SHOULD ALL BE WILLING TO DO THIS.
I'M SPENDING ALMOST EVERY DAY. ALL DAY WORKING ON THIS.
OKAY. BUT NOTHING CAN MORE IMPORTANT THIS IS TOP LEVEL DOCUMENT FOR THIS CITY.
THE COUNTY HAS THE SAME THING. THESE ARE MOST IMPORTANT DOCUMENTS. AND EVERYTHING IN THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE SHOULD HANG ON THIS.
AND THAT HASN'T BEEN REVISED AS IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN.
IN THE PAST GENERATION. EVERYTHING THAT WE DO ON THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE DEPENDS ON WHAT IS IN THIS.
YES, IT'S TIME CONSUMING. BUT NOTHING IS MORE IMPORTANT.
I HAVE TALKED TO ATTORNEYS ON THE STATE LEVEL WHO EMPHASIZE HOW CRITICALLY IMPORTANT THESE LOCAL DOCUMENTS ARE.
AND I THINK YOU KNOW, IT'S IMPORTANT FOR US TO BE WILLING
TO GIVE UP OUR TIME DO IT. >> SO THERE WAS A RECOMMENDATION THAT ADD HOUSING AND PUBLIC TRUST IN THE MAJOR THEME.
IS THERE INNERDOING INTEREST IN DOING THAT.
I DON'T KNOW ABOUT ADDING HOUSING.
I THINK WE'VE GOT TO RETHINK THE SPACE IN THE HOUSING FOR RESIDENTIAL SIDE IN TERMS OF REUSE AND REPURPOSING OF EXISTING LAND AND SO FORTH. SOMEHOW I DON'T -- WOULDN'T THAT
COME UNDER COMMUNITY CARE? >> YOU TALK ABOUT LAND AND
>> I THINK WE DON'T WANT TO LOSE THE THEME.
THAT'S THE THING. YOU DON'T WANT TO LOSE THE
THEME. >> I THINK YOU'VE GOT SOMEWHAT.
LET ME GIVEN A EXAMPLE. IF YOU GO UP GO ON 18TH STREET YOU'VE GOT MIXTURE FROM FROM 2010 CONSTRUCTION NEW CONSTRUCTION GOING BACK TO SOME GO BACK TO 60S MAYBE.
>> 50S AND 60S. >> A LOT OF THOSE HOUSES YOU MIGHTEN HAVE TO TEAR THEM DOWN. NOW MAY WANT TO DO A MAJOR REDO.
BUT THEY ARE GETTING -- THE PEOPLE ON THEM ARE PASSING.
THEY ARE MOVING OUT. THEY ARE GOING INTO RETIREMENT.
YOU ALMOST A POINT WHERE THERE'S A TIME OF CHANGE AND I THINK WE AS A WHOLE CITY HAVE TO THINK ABOUT HOW DO WE START THE PROCESS. THEY'VE GOT TREES.
THEY'VE GOT EVERYTHING DONE. AND YOU MAY NOT HAVE TO MOVE A TREE AROUND. AND SOMEHOW THAT GETS INTO HOUSING. DESPITE THE HOUSING AND THE LEVEL. YOU GET INTO AFFORDABLE.
I DON'T THINK YOU WILL HAVE AFFORDABLE HOUSING THAT MEETS THE STATE REQUIREMENT ON THE ISLAND.
I THINK THAT'S GOING TO BE ALL. >> THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE ADDRESSES ALL THAT. YOU HAVE LOT SIZES, SET BACKS
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ALL OF THAT IS THERE. IF SOMEONE WANT TO KEEP THE HOUSE THEY MAY OR THEY CAN TEAR IT DOWN AND BUILD SOMETHING NEW.>> I THINK FROM STANDPOINT OF -- IT HAS TO BE RAINED INTO MAYBE THE DEVELOPMENT PROCESS. WHAT IS WHAT IS DEVELOPED IS NOT NECESSARILY BULLDOZED IN THE NEXT LOT.
>> IT'S NOT IN THE HISTORIC DISTRICT.
>> IF YOU GET INTO CHANGING THE CHARACTER.
YOU WILL SEE A LOT OF THAT. YOU HAVE SOME PROPERTY THAT'S BEEN AROUND SINCE THE 50S THAT ON PRETTY SUBSTANTIAL SIZE LOTS AND EVENTUALLY THEY WILL GET BOUGHT UP AND PEOPLE BUILD BIGGER HOUSES BECAUSE THEY CAN. THEY ARE IN A GOOD AREA THAT ARE OUT OF FLOOD ZONES. PROBABLY 14TH STREET TO CITRONE.
>> I JUST JUST BEING CAUTIOUS OF THE TIME.
>> I THINK THIS ISSUES LOCAL NEIGHBORHOODS CHARACTER AND HOUSING NEED TO FIT IN HERE SOMEWHERE.
>> MAYBE IT'S COMMUNITY CHARACTER.
>> OR PROTECTING NATURAL RESOURCES.
>> ONE POINT IN TIME I THINK WHEN ADRIANS HERE THAT THEY WERE GOING TO LOOK AT SOME VARIOUS NEIGHBORHOODS AND SEE IF THERE WAS A NEIGHBORHOOD CHARACTER. IT NEVER REALLY WENT ANYWHERE.
BECAUSE YOU KNOW THE CHARACTER YOU WANT TO TEAR THEM DOWN.
>> THERE WAS A RESOURCE. I WILL ADD REAL QUICK.
EXAMPLE NEXT DOOR. THERE'S SOMETHINGS WE CAN DO TO ENCOURAGE THE STANDING PRACTICES LIKE REUTILIZING STRUCTURES.
I THINK THOSE ARE THE THINGS. WE DO HAVE SOME POLICIES THAT ENCOURAGE THAT ALREADY. THOSE ARE THE TYPE OF THINGS THAT NOT ONLY ON THE COMMERCIAL SIDE BY MOVING TO HAVE THAT RESIDENTIAL SIDE WHERE YOU HAVE A LOT OF STRUCTURES THAT COULD BE BULLDOZED MORE OF A PRACTICE. [INAUDIBLE] THERE'S PROBABLY THREE WALLS STILL THERE.
THAT MAY BE SOMETHING MORE ADVERTISED PROCESS THAT YOU WILLRD HAVE. BUT NOT MAYBE THAT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT PUBLIC GENERAL THAT KNOWLEDGE ABOUT IT.
I'VE BEEN HERE TWENLT YEARS. EVER SINCE I MOVED HERE.
I HEAR AFFORDABLE HOUSING. AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
I THINK WE HAVE TO BE HONEST. WITH FOCUS GROUPS.
AND WHEN THAT COMES UP WE HAVE TO SAY I DON'T THINK WE WILL BE ABLE TO DO THAT PEOPLE STILL TALK ABOUT IT.
>> I'M IN AGREEMENT WITH YOU. THE ONLY WAY GO HIGHER INTENSITY OR DO SOMETHING ELSE. AND THOSE WILL WHAT WE WANT TO SEE. I THINK IT GETS BACK WITH THE PEER ESSENCE OF THE PUBLIC INPUT THAT WE SPENT A LOT OF TIME WITH OR THE FACILITATED NOTES THAT'S THE RE-SIDSIDUAL OF ALL THE MEE THAT WE HAVE IN WRITING. EL WE CAN REVIEW.
I THINK IF WE GET SOME FEEDBACK AS WE TALK ABOUT THAT STARTS TO IDENTIFY WHERE WE ARE WITH EITHER ACCOMPLISHING THEM OR NOT. I REALLY THINK LIKE MARK WAS SAYING WE'VE GOT AREAS WHERE WE DO HAVE PROBLEMS. AND MAYBE THAT'S AGAIN WHERE IT STARTS TO COME TOGETHER.
IF WE DON'T AS A GROUP UNDERSTAND HOW BIG THIS IS THERE'S NO WAY WE'RE EVER GOING TO GET OFFERS.
>> THEY ARE KEEPING THIS IN MIND.
AND THE PUBLIC TRUTH, ADDING IN HOUSING AS A BIG NICE.
TALK ABOUT FURTHER AND THEN BRINGING BACK THOSE TOOLS FOR YOU TO REVIEW AND THE ANALYSIS TO TALK THROUGH TOGETHER.
THAT MAY CHANGE WHAT THIS ULTIMATE FOCUS BECOMES FOR THE OVERALL REVISION TO THE PLAN AND THEN THE IMPLEMENTATION COMPONENT OF THE CODE. WHAT I HEAR FROM EVERYONE THERE
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ARE SOME KEY AREAS WE WANT TO FOCUS ON IN THAT COMP PLAN TO REVISE AND TO GET TO THAT NEXT LEVEL.WITH OUR EFFORTS. BUT THE IMPLEMENTATION IS WHERE WE REALLY NEED TO SPEND A GREAT DEAL OF ENERGY.
AM I WRONG IN MAKING THAT ASSUMPTION.
>> I AGREE. ONE OF THE SLIDES AFTER THIS --
>> REALLY SORT OF SPEAKS TO THAT.
TO THE FUNDING COMPONENT OF THIS.
WHICH IS DO WE WANT TO SPEND MONEY ON POLICY DESIGN OR SPEND THE MONEY ON IMPLEMENTATION OR LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE.
BASED ON WHAT I HEARD IT'S MORE ABOUT IMPLEMENTATION PIECE OF IT. RECOGNIZING THERE'S A GREAT DEAL OF ENERGY AND SPIRIT OF VOLUNTEERISM HERE AND COLLABORATION. PEOPLE WANT TO GIVE INPUT AND FEEDBACK. TREMENDOUS EXPERTISE.
LET'S USE THAT. AND REALLY USE THAT PIECE TO BUILD INTO THE POLICY DESIGN. AND THEN I THINK THE METHOD BEING LET'S USE OUR DOLLARS FOR THIS TARGETED AREA WHERE WE KNOW WE NEED THE EXTRA HELP IF WE DON'T HAVE THE AVAILABLE TO US.
>> I'M STILL CONCERNED WITH WHAT GOES ON THE DAY-TO-DAY WITH YOU GUYS. I KNOW YOU HAVE OTHER BOARDS THAT YOU WORK WITH OTHER THINGS THAT ARE GOING ON.
AND THE CONCERN I HAVE THE EVERY TEAM THERE'S TEAM LEADER.
WE HAVE OUR GREAT CHAIR. AND UNDERSTAND HOW BIG THIS THING IS. I THINK WE'LL START TO TELL US HOW WE GET THAT LEADERSHIP THAT KEEPS US ALL -- YOU DON'T WANT
TO BE LIKE A HERD OF GOATS. >> I THINK THAT'S A GREAT SEGUE TO SORT OF TALKING ABOUT DEFYING ROLES.
>> HISTORICALLY. WHAT WE HAVE TAKEN A SUBJECT, THIS MAY BE PREWRITTEN TO A CERTAIN EXTENT.
WE MAY HAVE A SUBCOMMITTEE WITH CHAIRMAN THAT WORKS THROUGH WITH THE CITY. GIVES IT DEVELOPED TO POINT WHERE IT COMES TO PAB AS A WHOLE.
AND THEN IT GETS YOU KNOW PUBLIC INPUT AND THEN GOES TO COMMISSION WHEN IT'S DONE. WE EACH COULD TAKE WHAT -- THE LAST ONE WE EACH TOOK AN ELEMENT AND WORKED THROUGH IT AND ALL OF COMMUNITY MEETINGS AND THINGS. I'M LOOKING TO THAT TYPE OF THING. I WOULD RATHER PROBLEM AREAS WHICH DEAL WITH THAT. YOU COULD BE CHAIRMAN OF A SUBCOMMITTEE. IT MY BE ONE OR THREE PEOPLE.
I'M NOT SEEING TYING UP STAFF TO A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT FOR THIS STAFF THAT THROW OUT PROPOSAL AND THEN WE CAN WORK ON IT ON OUR OWN. OR WITH THE HELP OF A COMMITTEE.
AND THEN BRING IT BACK. IS THAT WHAT YOU SEE TOO?
>> THAT'S A DIFFERENT APPROACH. YOU COULD DO THAT WHERE YOU HEAR THESE ARE OUR XMGS FOR WHAT WE WANT TO SEE BROUGHT BACK TO US.
CRAFT IT BRING IT BACK TO US AND AT THAT POINT WE WILL DISARM HOW WE WANT IT. THAT'S AN APPROACH.
BUT WHAT WE WANTED TO PROPOSE TO YOU IS A DIFFERENT APPROACH WHICH HAS LARGER SCALE ENGAGEMENT.
TIED TO IT. MAYBE THERE'S NOTHING FOR THE LARGER SCALE. NOT THAT IT'S SOMETHING YOU WOULD PREFER IN TERMS OF EXPEDIENCE AND GETTING THROUGH SOMETHING. MAYBE IT'S SUITABLE FOR THE SPECIFIC AREA FOR PARTICULAR COMPONENT OF THIS.
>> LET'S TALK THROUGH THIS. AND SEE.
>> WE HAVE FLOWCHART WITH OBVIOUSLY PLANNING ADVISORY BOARD AT THE TOP. AND A STEERING COMMITTEE THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO PUT TOGETHER TO FOCUS ON COME PREMENSY PLAN AND WHERE WE NEED TO MAKE CHANGE AND HEAVIER LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE EMPHASIS PART OF THE STEERING COMMITTEE THAT CAN WORK THROUGH THOSE IMPLEMENTATION PIECES. BUT AS ONE STEERING COMMITTEE THAT REALLY UNDERSTANDING THE ACTIVITY OF HOW THE CONFERENCE PLAN AND LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE WORK.
WE HAD THROWN OUT IDEAS FOR MEMBERS OF THE STEERING COMMITTEE. INCLUDING CITY BUILDING DEPARTMENT STAFF. LOOKING TO ADD SORT OF DISTRICT COUNCILMEMBER. A BOARD MEMBER AS PART OF THE STEERING COMMITTEE TO UNDERSTAND THE ISSUE THAT THEY SEE MORE OF
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ADJUSTMENT MEMBER WHO EXPERIENCE FUELS REQUEST.OBVIOUSLY ARCHITECTS OR ENGINEERS INTERESTED CITIZENS AND MEMBER OF THE ECONOMIC COMMUNITY CHAMBER OF COMMERCE COMPONENTS WITH THE CONFERENCE PLAN PIECE RECOGNIZING AS KELLY MENTIONED AND WE RECOGNIZE THE PECKS EFFORT AND THOSE WHO SPEND LOTS OF TIME AND WORKING TOWARD THE COME PREMENSY PLAN WORKING WITH THOSE MEMBERS INCLUDING A PARK AND REC ADVISORY MEMBER AND OTHER INTERESTED CITIZENS TO GO THROUGH COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE IN MORE OF A COMMITTEE CAPACITY THAT UTILIZING WHAT PLANNING ADVISORY BOARD DIRECT WHERE THE FOCUS BE AND TASK WORK THROUGH THOSE INDIVIDUAL TASKS.
WHERE CITY STAFF LEADING THAT CHARGE, BRINGING IN CONSULTANTS FOR EXAMPLE WE KNOW THAT INTERMODAL TRANSPORTATION ELEMENT IS ONE WE CAN LOOK TO WANT TO LOOK FOR A CONSULTANT TO MAKE THAT UP AND WHAT CITY STAFF LEADING THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE EFFORTS AND WE FEEL THIS IS SOMETHING THAT STAFF SHOULD TAKE THE LEAD ON AND WORK TO COMMUNICATE TO THE STEERING COMMITTEE WHERE WE SEE CERTAIN DEFICIENCIES IN OUR CODE AND WORK WITH A CONSULTANT TO BRING IN THINGS LIKE HYBRID CODES.
ONE OF THE COME PAENT COMPONENTS THAT CAME OUT.
BUILDING REQUIREMENT. WHAT THE BUILDING ENVIRONMENT LOOKS LIKE. OUR STANDARD ZONING CODE BY SET BACKS AND SURFACES AND OTHER THINGS WHERE THERE'S HYBRID FORMS OF CODE. THERE'S DIFFERENT THINGS THAT CAN ENCOURAGE AND BRING OUT THE BUILD-IN ENVIRONMENT FORMATTING OUR LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE. WE HAVE 11 CHAPTERS IN THE CODE.
THERE'S 40 SOMETHING PAGES IN CHAPTER FOUR FOR DESIGNER DEVELOPMENTS. FORMATTING AND CLEANING ALL THAT UP SO ITS EASIER TO READ AND RESEARCH AND UTILIZE.
THAT GOES INTO SIMPLICITY. LOOKING AT THINGS LIKE HOW WE CAN BUILD IN ADMINISTRATIVE MECHANISMS TO ACCOUNT FOR ABILITY PLACEMENT WHERE OUR CITY ARBOUREST AND THIRD PARTY ARBOUREST IDENTIFY TREES THAT SHOULD BE MOVED FIVE FEET THIS WAY OR THAT WAY. THAT MAY BE SET BACK THAT INSTEAD OF SAYING WE LOVE YOU TO MOVE THAT HOUSE FIVE FEET.
BUT THE ONLY WAY TO DO THAT YOU GO TO COLLECT 1,000 VARIANCE.
WE KIND OF WORK WITH THAT KIND OF COMPONENT ALL THE TIME.
WHEN YOU SAY SOMEONE 45 DAYS OUT AND IT WILL COST YOU 1,000 TO SAVE A TREE. WE DON'T HAVE FLEXIBILITY TO WORK THROUGH THOSE THINGS WITHOUT SENDING TESTIMONY THR -- THEM THROUGH A BOARD.
LOOKING AT PUD STANDARD ANDED A ADMINISTRATIVE PROCESS.
PROVIDING THE STEERING COMMITTEE THAT CAN CHAMPION BOTH OF THOSE IMPLEMENTATION SIDE AND MAKE THE CHANGES AS WE IDENTIFIED WHO THOSE FACILITIES NOTES IN CAN COME PREMENSIVE PLAN.
WOULD YOU PROPOSE THESE GO ON CURRENTLY.
THESE ARE TWO EXTREMES THAT HAPPEN SEPARATELY AND AT THE
>> I I WILL SAY ONE WILL HAVE A DATE THAT COMES DUE EARLIER TIME POINT WITH ANOTHER THAT TEXT ENDS FURTHER.
TO GET THE FULL IMPLEMENTATION INCORPORATED.
KEEPING MIND YOUR COMP PLAN IS THE GUIDING DOCUMENT TO ENSURE YOU HAVE THE POLICIES WHERE YOU WANT THEM TO BE AND GUIDE AND DIRECT IF YOU WANT THIS THAT LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE PIECE.
>> THERE MAY BE A 60-DAY LAG OR SOMETHING BETWEEN THESE TWO? COMPONENTS KICKING OFF? IS THAT WHAT YOU ARE SAYING SOME
SMALL LAG? >> I THINK THERE COULD BE.
YOU COULD HAVE AN OVERALL PICK UP.
WITH THIS, THIS AND WHAT THE BOARD IDENTIFIED TONIGHT WILL HELP TO SUPPORT THE TIMING OF THAT.
I DO THINK AND I WILL GO AHEAD AND STATE IT'S BEEN DEFINED WITH COMP PLAN. REVISION DUE TO CITY COMMISSION JULY OF 2021. WE HAVE NINE MONTH WINDOW TO
ACCOMPLISH THAT REVISION EFFORT. >> WE'RE RUNNING OUT OF RUNWAY
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>> >> I THINK YOU'VE GOT TO GET THE VISION KIND THE PLACE. THE COMPONENT OF THE VISION THAT WE'RE NT GOING TO CHANGE THEN WE MAYBE CAN WORK ON THAT PIECE OF THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE. YOU KIND OF NEED TO HAVE THE CART. WE WILL BE ABLE TO PARCE THOSE THINGS OUT. IT WILL HELP TO INFORM THOSE
PRIORITIES. >> YOU MAY FIND THAT MIGHT BE ONE. IT'S KIND OF SELF-CONTAINED.
WHAT IS THERE IS THERE. THERE MIGHT BE CHANGED REQUIRED.
THAT MAY BE SOMEONE. WE WANT TO USE MORE OF THAT.
IT'S AN AREA WE WANT TO SEE SOME GROWTH IN THE APPLICATION AND ACCEPTANCE OF IT. YOU MAY FIND SOME OF THAT CAN BE DONE LEC SIDE. IN PARALLEL AND A LOT EARLIER.
>> IT ALL DEPENDS ON WHAT YOU WANT TO DO.
OR YOU CONTEMPLATING THE INCREASED DENSITY SOMETHING THE BOARD WITH TALK ABOUT REVISITING AFTER IT'S IMPLEMENTED.
YOU WANT TO INCORPORATE REQUIREMENT FOR RETAIL AND PART OF REDEVELOPMENT SCENARIO. THEN THAT WILL THEN LEAD INTO A PLAN CHANGE. IT WOULD DEPEND ON WHAT SIT YOUR
LOOKING AT. >> CAN I ASK A QUESTION.
IS IT INTENTION TO CHANGE THE FUTURE LAND USE?
>> THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION. I GUESS IT'S A GENERAL QUESTION
FOR THE BOARD. >> I'M LOOKING AT THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. THERE'S 12 ELEMENTS.
HAVE ALL THE THINGS FROM THE LAST THINGS RESILIENCY AND ALL THAT. THE FIRST ELEMENT IS FUTURE LAND USE. THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP WHAT DRIVES THE COME PREMENSIVE PLAN WHAT YOU DO ON THAT.
ANYONE CONTEMPLATE CHANGING THAT.
OR DO ALL CONTEMPLATE KEEPING THE SAME.
DO YOU CONTEMPLATE CHANGING IT IT OPENS UP A WHOLE OTHER CAN OF WORMS. THAT'S THE FIRST DECISION.
>> WE REALLY HAVEN'T HAD DECISIONS.
>> I'M JUST ASKING. WE TALKED ABOUT FIXING ALL THE AREAS THAT THERE WERE PROBLEMS. WE WERE CONSIDERING JUST MAYBE ONE AT A TIME. INSTEAD OF --
>> THEY VERY SUPPOSED TO BRING WHAT'S LEFT OVER.
OTHER THAN THAT. THAT'S ALL --
[INAUDIBLE] >> MY VIEW LIKE GOING BACK SPECIFICALLY OUR BOARD GOT A STRUCTURE, I GOT A ZONE AREA IN PLACE. I WANT TO MAKE SURE YOU USE IT.
PEOPLE WANT THAT TO BE IMPLEMENTATION.
THE ACTUAL OPERATION SIDE. IT'S NOT MAKE ANOTHER CHANGE TO IT. IT'S USE WHAT WE HAVE MORE BASIC PLAN OF UTILIZATION AND SO FORTH.
WE GOT ONE PRETTY GOOD I GUESS SUCCESS STORY.
I WANT TO SEE MORE OF THAT. THAT'S IN THE APPROVAL PROCESS.
NO CHANGE THERE. >> IT'S JUST DO YOU WANT ADD MORE DENSITY TO THE AREA OR MAKE REQUIREMENT?
>> THAT'S PRETTY FLEXIBLE FOR EVERYTHING.
THAT'S THE IDEA OF MAKING IT FLEXIBLE AS POSSIBLE.
MY VIEW THERE WAS AN A LOT OF EFFORT THAT WENT INTO DEVELOPING MUA STRATEGY IF YOU WANT TO CALL IT THAT.
I DON'T KNOW IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE WANT TO CHANGE AGAIN.
THEY KNOW HOW IT'S WORKING. SOME OF THEM ARE ACTUALLY STARTED. AND THE AREAS START TO CHANGE.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE BUILDER AND DEVELOPERS ARE SAYING.
I LOVE TO TO. BUT I CAN'T DO IT.
THAT'S WHERE YOU CALL COME IN. I THINK THE PROCESS COULD RUN PARALLEL IN THAT THERE ARE THINGS WE COULD POINT OUT IN MUA ZONING DISTRICT SIMPLE THINGS FROM FENCING TO DIFFERENT TYPE OF BUFFER REQUIREMENTS. KIND OF NUANCES THAT WE RAN INTO WITH THE ZONING DISTRICT ON A WHOLE THAT THE STEERING COMMITTEE COULD IDENTIFY THOSE AND THAT COULD BE SOMETHING A
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GROUP WORKS ON THAT'S NOT CON TEN AGAIN UPON COMPREHENSIVEPLAN CHANGES. >>IST GOING TO THROW IN.
THE WAY THE PLAN IS WRITTEN NOW THE LAND USE SECTION SERVES AS KIND OF THE DRIVING FORCE FOR THE OTHER ELEMENTS AND IT IS KIND OF CONTAINS SORT OF AN OVERVIEW OF WHAT YOU ARE GOING TO SEE. AND OTHER ELEMENTS.
BUT IN WRITING A PLAN LIKE THAT, OR YOU KNOW WHAT WE ARE WORKING ON THOSE THEMES, THOSE BASIC UNDERLYING PRINCIPALS OF PRIORITIES YOU HAVE UP THERE SHOULD ALSO -- SHOULD DRIVE WHAT IS IN THE FUTURE LAND USE SECTION.
THEN THAT TRICKLES INTO THE OTHER SECTION.
AT LEAST THAT'S THE WAY I LOOK AT IT.
>> COMPREHENSIVE PLAN PROBABLY NEEDS TO BE TIGHTENED UP OR MORE
>> WHERE THAT IS OR WHERE THE PROBLEMS ARE.
TAKE ONE OF THOSE AT A TIME. OR SEVERAL AT A TIME.
>> THIS IDEA OF WANTING THE STEERING COMMITTEE, THAT CITY EMPLOYEES, CITIZENS, BUSINESS REPRESENTATIVE, CONSERVANCY REPRESENTATIVES. DOES THAT MAKE SENSE TO PEOPLE?
IS THAT A GOOD APPROACH? >> I THINK THAT WOULD BE
IMPORTANT. >> KEEPING -- [INAUDIBLE] YOU COULD ARGUE TO THE STEERING COMMITTEE. [INAUDIBLE] EVERYBODY IS PUBLIC. EVERYBODY CAN ATTEND WHEN THEY WANT. I WOULD ASSUME PAB MEMBER IN STEERING COMMITTEE. CAN'T IMPLEMENT THAT UNTIL WE
DECIDE WHAT WE WILL BE DOING. >> THIS IS AN APPROACH.
>> I LIKE THAT. >> THAT'S MY QUESTION.
DOES THIS APPROACH MAKE SENSE TO PEOPLE? OR DO YOU WANT -- IS SOMETHING ELSE WE NEED TO CHANGE? IS THERE SOME OTHER WAY THAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO DO IT?
>> THIS WILL ADD MORE OF WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT.
ALL THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT, ALL THOSE THINGS WILL HAVE TO TELL YOU WHAT'S NOT WORKING AND WHERE THE PROBLEM IS.
WE WOULD BE A PART OF THAT. WE FIGURE OUT HOW TO FIX IT.
THE SAME WITH THE INTERESTED CITIZENS.
I MEAN AND ALL OF THE COME PRE PREMENSIVE PLANS THAT I'VE BEEN ON HAVE HAD A LOT OF CITIZEN INPUT. WE'VE HAD A LOT OF PROFESSIONAL INPUT WITH THE CITIZENS. AND WE HAD JEFFREY THOMAS WHO WAS THREE YEARS HE WAS ALMOST EVERY MEETING WE HAD HELPING
WITH THE WRITING. >> THIS DOESN'T PREPRECLUDE PUBLIC HEARING AND ALL OF THE THAT.
I THINK AS STEERING COMMITTEE AS OVERSIGHT PROVIDING GUIDANCE AND PROVIDING VIEWS FROM ACROSS SECTION OF THE COMMUNITY AND THE CITY THAT IS CRITICAL TO THE PROJECT.
>> THE ONLY CONCERN I HAVE AND I THINK IT'S A GOOD CONCEPT THE ONLY CONCERN I HAVE THE THE -- YOU TALK ABOUT AREAS OF RESPONSIBILITY TO ACTUALLY PRODUCE -- PRODUCE.
A STEERING COMMITTEE CAN GET I WON'T SAY DELEWDED.
THERE'S MANY PEOPLE IN THERE. I LIKE TO SAY THERE'S ONE PERSON RESPONSIBLE. WHETHER IT'S A CHAIR THAT YOU DECIDE ON. PROJECT MANAGER THAT YOU DECIDE ON. WHATEVER TERM YOU USE FOR IT.
BUT WHO THAT ONE PERSON IS THAT EVERYBODY IN THAT GROUP TURNS TO AT THE MOMENT A DECISION HAS TO BE MADE.
NEED TO BE IDENTIFIED. >> RIGHT.
>> AND HOW MUCH THAT PERSON IS COMMITTED TO BEING STEERING PERSON OR THE PROJECT MANAGER OR WHATEVER YOU WANT TO CALL IT.
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THAT'S CRITICAL. THAT PERSON IS THE DRIVING FORCE THAT KEEPS TABS ON EVERY ONE OF THE COMMITTEE PEOPLE THAT ARE SAYING WHERE ARE YOU? DO YOU HAVE YOUR REPORT?WE WILL NEED IT. >> YOU KR -- YOU HAVE TO KEEP UP
ON THAT. >> THAT LEADS ME INTO THE LEVEL OF INVOLVEMENT THAT YOU AS BOARD MEMBERS INTEND TO BE INCLUDED IN THE PROCESS. WHAT LEVEL OF INVOLVEMENT? WHAT LEVEL OF COMMITMENT ARE YOU WILLING TO MAKE IN THIS PROCESS? BECAUSE THAT WILL FEED INTO WHERE WE DO AN ASSIGNMENT OF ELEMENT CHAMPION WHOSE IS THAT KEY PERSON BUT ON THE CITIZENS SIDE. BECAUSE AT THE END OF THE DAY, THIS IS NOT MY PLAN. THIS IS NOT JAKE'S PLAN.
THIS IS THE COMMUNITY'S PLAN. YOU ARE ABSOLUTELY CORRECT.
IT'S A CRITICAL POINT YOU MADE. HAVING AN ELEMENT CHAMPION IS NOT AN APPROACH THAT WE'VE UTILIZED IN 2012 AND 2009 WE WE FOUND TO BE EFFECTIVE. INDIVIDUAL BOARD MEMBERS COULD TAKE ON A SPECIFIC TOPIC AREA AND SEE IT THROUGH WITHIN THE CONTEXT OF THE COMP PLAN REVISION.
THIS WILL REQUIRE NOT YOU ONLY TAKE FROM COMP PLAN ABLE TO REQUIRE YOU STEWARD THAT IMPLEMENTATION SIDE IN LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE WHICH MAY REQUIRE TWO OR THREE CHAMPION WORKING TOGETHER WITH THIS OVERALL STEERING COMMITTEE.
THAT'S THE PIECE WE WANT TO KEEP IN MIND.
THOSE CHAMPIONS. THOSE ARE YOUR BOARD MEMBERS.
HOW YOU PARCO OUT. THIS THERE'S NO WILLING TO COMMIT YOU NEED TO TALK THROUGH THAT.
SOONER THAN LATER. >> I'M ALREADY COMMITTED.
>> YOU ARE CLEARLY COMMITTED. >> I'M CONCERNED ABOUT THE PAB.
PAB NEEDS TO FUNCTION AS ONE ENTITY ALL THE WAY THROUGH.
YOU WILL HAVE TURN OVER. YOU WILL CHANGES.
IF YOU ONLY HAVE A COUPLE OF ELEMENT CHAM N YOUS YOU HAVE 50% ONE OF THE TWO OF THEM WON'T BE AROUND IN NINE MONTHS.
I THINK WHAT GOES ON WITHIN THE PAB IN TERMS OF MANAGING THIS THING. THAT'S WHY I LOOK AT MANAGERS.
THAT'S MY CONCERN. >> I THINK SOME OF THE TURN OVER HAS BEEN CURED BY THE CHANGES THAT WE'VE HAD THE LAST COUPLE
OF YEAR. >> WE RECENTLY HAD ONE UNPLANNED. WE WASN'T PLANNED LEAVING AND IT HAPPENED. THIS IS HOW THE LAST REWRITE WERE DONE. THERE WERE CHAMPIONS.
>> MAYBE THREE GET TOGETHER. IT'S NOT JUST ONE PERSON WILL
BE -- IT TAKES A VILLAGE. >> ONCE WE FILTER THIS THE FRONT PROBLEMS OR AT LEAST TO LEAD THEM UP TO WHERE WITH ENFORCEMENT AND ET CETERA. I DON'T THINK I WILL BE SO
OVERWHELMING. >> ALL THE INFORMATION IS A LOT.
WE CLEARED UP LOT OF IT. IT'S ALREADY THERE.
>> WHAT CAPACITILY IS LEAD PERSON.
WHAT TYPE OF PERSON ARE WE LOOKING FOR?
>> TO ASK WHERE I AM I AT WITH THIS OR THAT.
IT'S THE LARGER COMMUNITY. >> BUT IT'S ALSO SOMEONE WHO IS NOT RELATED TO THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT.
SOMEONE WHO YOU CAN UTILIZE THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT BECAUSE TO ME IF IT'S SOMEONE THAT IS THE STEERING CHAIRMAN, STEERING COMMITTEE CHAIRMAN, THAT PERSON IS DEALING WITH ALL OF THOSE PEOPLE AND THEY AREN'T GOING TO RELY ON YOU TO SET ALL ALL THOSE MEET AND THAT KIND OF THING. YOU EXPECT SOME INDEPENDENCE.
WOULDN'T YOU EXPECT SOMEONE INTO THE ABLE TO GO OUT AND SET THOSE THINGS UP IN COORDINATION WITH YOUR GROUP?
>> THE PROBLEM IS THEY ARE ALL PUBLIC MEETING.
THEY HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE STAFF TO HAVE THAT STUFF DONE.
>> OKAY. >> KELLY WILL NOT DO ALL THE WORK. IT WOULD BE LIKE YOU SAYING LET'S SET UP A SPECIAL MEETING. AND KELLY DELEGATES THAT.
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OR KELLY'S STAFF DOES IT. >> IT'S A LOT OF MOVING PARTS.
EVERY ONE OF US IS HAS TO LOOK AT OUR OWN SELVES AND SAY I KNOW WHAT I'M SIGNING UP FOR. I'M WILLING TO DEVOTE THE KIND OF TIME IT'S GOING TO TAKE. I MEAN I LOOK AT THE
>> IT'S HUGE. >> YOU WILL BE ON IT FOR MONTHS.
>> THANK YOU. [INAUDIBLE] SERVICE FOR THE COMMUNITY AND MAKE SIGNIFICANT IMPROVEMENTS.
I MEAN I THINK THAT'S YOU HAVE A LOT OF WORK IN FRONT OF YOU.
WHEN YOU GET DONE WE HAVE HAVE SIGNIFICANT CHANGE IN
IMPROVEMENTS. >> HOPEFULLY A PLAN THAT EVERYONE CAN BUY INTO AND HAVE KRON CONSENSUS ON.
>> WE'RE NOT REINVENTING THE WHOLE THING.
A LOT OF WORK WAS DONE. THE LAST TIME.
>> YOU ALL NEED TO THINK ABOUT THIS.
PROCESS FOR A WHILE. AND WE CAN BRING IT UP AT THE NEXT PAB MEETING AND CONTINUE THIS CONVERSATION.
>> YES. >> IF THERE ARE PROPOSAL PLEASE DO THAT. THIS IS A -- THIS THE DRAFT PLAN. AND IF THIS IS NOT HOW WE WANT TO FUNCTION. OKAY.
THEN WHAT IS THE ALTERNATIVE? >> RIGHT? THAT'S WHY WE HAVING THESE WORKING SESSIONS.
TO BE ABLE SIT DOWN AND TALK THROUGH IT.
>> WHERE ARE WE GOING FROM HERE? >> TO ME IT SOUNDS LIKE -- IF WE DON'T HAVE DELTA. MAYBE WE NEED TO ADDRESS IT.
IT GETS BACK TO FACILITATED NOTES OF THE YEAR.
WH WHICHES THE PUBLIC COMMENT.
IT WASN'T PUBLISHED IN THE DOCUMENT.
A LOT OF IT IS. IT'S RAW DATA.
IT WAS WISHFUL THINKING. IS IT ANYWHERE IN THIS?
YOU'VE GOT THE DATA I GUESS? >> YES.
>> WE HAVE THE HIGH POINTS. >> A MOTION THAT WOULD PUT US
>> RAW DATA. >> THAT FACILITATED NOTE.
THE TESTIMONY OR DOCUMENTS OR? >> IT'S WHAT KELLY SENT US IN
THE AGENDA PACKET. >> THOSE NOTE ARE EXACTLY
EVERYTHING. >> EVERY TIME IN TERMS OF THE COMMUNICATION. EVERY TIME IT GOES THROUGH A REPORTING PHASE, THEN IT GETS -- IT SORT OF FADES.
AND THINGS GET LEFT OUT. THAT'S JUST NORMAL HUMAN
COMMUNICATION. >> DO YOU HAVE THE RAW NOTES?
>> IT'S ON THE WEB SITE. I THOUGHT IT WOULD BE THERE
FOREVER BUT IT'S NOT. >> ALL RIGHT.
IF YOU WEREN'T THERE, YOU LIVE HERE.
YOU KNOW OUT YOU KNOW MOST OF THE PEOPLE WANT TO SEE LOW DENSITY. THEY DON'T WANT TO SEE HEIGHT.
THEY WANT CONSERVATION. THEY WANT THE ROADS TO BE NICE.
POLICE TO PROTECT THEM. AND LIVE HAPPILY EVER AFTER.
>> IN THAT AS WELL THERE WERE OPPORTUNITIES FOR BUSINESS AND HOW DOES BUSINESS WORK TOGETHER WITH THE CONCERNS OF TRAFFIC CONGESTION, YOU KNOW, THE HEIGHT OF THE TOURISM, TRAFFIC AND IMPACTS OF TOURISM. AND THOSE WERE ISSUES, BUT INCORPORATED INTO THAT ARE THINGS LIKE OUR BILLS.
OUR PORT. THE RESORTS, THE BIG EMPLOYERS THAT WE HAVE IN THE COUNTY AND THE CITY AND HAVE EVERYBODY HAS
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TO COME TOGETHER AND THEY'VE ALL GOT A PIECE OF THIS.MOST OF IT DUD GET REFLECTED IN THE FACILITATED NOTES.
>> IF IT'S AT ALL POSSIBLE. YOU NEED TO GET INFORMATION TO YOU EVEN IF IT'S ONLY PARTIAL AT THE TIME OF THE NEXT BOARD MEETING. I THINK THAT'S OCTOBER 12TH?
>> OKAY. AND TO CONTINUE THIS CONVERSATION. AND BECAUSE I'M NOT SURE WE'VE GOTTEN ALL OF OUTCOMES WE HOPED FOR FROM THIS MEETING.
BECAUSE I THINK A LOT OF THIS NEEDS TO DIGEST MORE.
AND I THINK THROUGH AND MAKE SURE IT'S SOMETHING WE WILL FEEL COMFORTABLE WITH FOR BEFORE MAKING A COMMITMENT.
>> I WAS REALLY HOPING WE WOULD HAVE CONSENSUS ON THE KEY
>> I THINK WE'RE CLOSE. >> IT'S JUST MAKING SURE THAT ALIGNS WITH THOSE FACILITATED NOTES.
>> CORRECT. >>IST REALLY HOPING THAT WE WOULD GET FROM THIS MEETING AND I THINK WE HAVE DIRECTION ON USE OF FUNDS. DO WE WANT TO SPEND MORE MONEY ON THE COMP PLAN SIDE OR THE DEVELOPMENT SIDE? AND I THINK WE'RE THERE IN TERMS OF WHERE WE NEED TARGETED USE OF
CONSULTANTS. >> WHERE IS THAT?
>> ON IMPLEMENTATION, LAND DEVELOPMENT SIDE.
>> YEP. >> AND THEN THE OTHER WAS --
>> I'M NOT SURE WE'RE THERE COMPLETELY.
>> I'M NOT SURE I'M THERE COMPLETELY.
I THINK THAT'S AN ASTERISK IN MY MIND.
. >> YOU WANT TO SPEND MORE MONEY
ON THE COMP PLAN. >> NOT MORE.
>> AND HOW WE GET THERE IS MY PIG QUESTION.
BIG ASTERISK. AND THAT'S THE MONEY, THAT'S THE LEADERSHIP. THAT'S THE STRUCTURE.
THAT'S MY -- >> AND THEN THE OTHER WAS DEFINING OUR GOALS AND EXPECTATIONS FOR THE BOARD, STAFF, FOR USE OF CONSULTANTS, THROUGH THIS ENTIRE PROCESS AND FOR OUR COMMUNITY AS A WHOLE IN CAPITALIZING ON THE VOLUNTEERS THAT WE HAVE HERE AND THE EXPERTISE AT THE TABLE.
THAT'S WHAT I HOPED TO GET FROM THIS.
I THINK IT'S TREMENDOUSLY IMPORTANT TO PROVIDE PRESENTATION TO THE COMMISSION WHICH WILL BE OCTOBER 20TH.
AND HOPEFULLY AT THAT SAME TIME THEY WILL BE AWARDED TO NEGOTIATE A SCOPE OF SERVICES FOR A CONSULTANT TO COME IN AND
HELP US WITH THE EFFORTS. >> I THINK -- THAT'S A GREAT CITY COUNCIL MEETING. THE PLAN WAS WE WOULD BE THE CITY COMMISSION OCTOBER 20TH. I'M NOT CLEAR AT THE END OF THIS
MEETING THAT WE'RE READY. >> I AGREE.
>> BUT WE JUST CAN'T KEEP DRAGGING THIS THING OUT.
I THINK BASED ON WHAT WE HEARD SO FAR AND THE DRAFT STEERING COMMITTEE PROCESS THAT MAYBE KELLY AND I COULD PUT DOWN MAYBE DRAFT UP A PROPOSED SCOPE OF WORK A MORE BASIC ONE THAT TALKED ABOUT USING CONSULTANTS, NOT WORRYING THEM IN FULL TIME.
I DO THINK THERE'S SOME WORK WE CAN USE CONSULTANTS ON, ON THE COMP PLAN ISSUE. THAT MAYBE QUICKER WAY TO GET
THROUGH SOME STUFF. >> WE'RE REALLY NOT THINKING
ABOUT THE BIG FOUR CONSULTANTS. >> WE'RE TALK -- SO THIS MY TAKE ON IT. YES.
IT'S THOSE COMPANIES AND WE PICKED THE TOP TWO.
THAT'S WHO WE WILL GO THROUGH THEM.
AND MY THEORY IF YOU GO TO THEM AND SAY OKAY THIS WILL NOT BE A EXERCISE. WE ARE NOT JUST GOING TO START OVER AND LET YOU GO OUT AND DO WHATEVER.
WE NEED YOU REALLY TARGETED HERE.
AND WE ARE RESTRICTED WITH FUNDS.
THEY WILL SAY OKAY FINE. YOU KNOW THEY WILL NOT WALK AWAY. THEY WILL SAY OKAY.
THEN LET'S FIGURE OUT. >> PUT A PRICE TAG ON IT.
>> IT'S ONE ELEMENT, READ IT AND SEE WHAT YOU KNOW YOU HAVE ALL THESE INPUTS FROM THE PUBLIC. SEE WHAT CHANGES MADE BE REFLECTED IN THAT ELEMENT THAT YOU'RE INTERESTED IN.
>> I DOESN'T TAKE SOMEONE FROM NEW YORK CITY TO COME HERE AND TELL US WHAT WE NEED TO DO. AGAIN I GO BACK TO THE STAFF
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KNOWS WHERE WE HAVE SOME ISSUES. LET'S HIT ON THOSE THOSE PORTIONS THAT NEED ADDRESSING. INSTEAD OF -- LET'S TAKE LITTLEPIECES OF IT. >> DO WE HAVE A BUDGET YET THAT
WE'RE ALLOWED? >> NOT EXACTLY.
THERE IS ABOUT 87,000 IN THE BUDGET THAT WAS APPROVED LAST NIGHT. IT'S CURRENTLY SITTING IN THE CITY MANAGER'S BUDGET AS A HEAD COUNT.
WE HAVE TALKED TO THEM ABOUT HOW WE MIGHT REPURPOSE THAT IF WE DON'T WANT THEM TO HIRE A PERSON.
AND THERE'S SOME WIGGLE ROOM IN KELLY'S PROFESSIONAL SERVICES BUDGET. SO THAT WE CAN COBBLE TOGETHER BETWEEN THE TWO. I BELIEVE ENOUGH MONEY TO GET
>> WE DO VM BUDGET MONEY. BUT BEFORE WE EVEN GO AFTER THAT BUDGET MONEY, WE HAVE TO HAVE FINE SCOPE OF WORK HERE.
>> YES. >> AND THEN WE GOT TO MAYBE THOSE TWO PARTIES. SINCE WE LIKE THOSE TWO.
>> WE -- I UNDERSTAND. BUT THE SCOPE OF WORK HAS
CHANGED. >> THERE WAS NO SCOPE.
THIS THE REQUEST FOR QUALIFICATIONS ONLY.
WE HAVE NOT SAT DOWN WITH THE SCOPE OF WORK.
AND THIS IS WHAT I WANT YOU TO DO EXACTLY FOR THEM TO THEN GIVE US THE PRICE BACK AND FOR THEM TO START NEGOTIATING.
THAT NEVER HAPPENED. >> MORE OR LESS APPLYING WHAT THEY -- WHAT THEIR CAPABILITIES ARE.
ARE WE GOING TO DO THE SCOPE OF WORK OR ARE WE NOT?
>> NOT BEFORE THE AWARD OCCURS. >> YOU WILL AWARD AND SAY YOU HAVE THE WORK BUT WE DON'T -- IT'S ABOUT THIS MANY
DOLLARS. >> WE CAN'T NEGOTIATE UNTIL WE KNOW AS BOARD WHAT YOU WANT THE SCOPE TO LOOK LIKE.
THAT'S WHERE THEY'VE GOT THIS PIECE OF THE CONVERSATION AT THE
NEXT BOARD MEETING. >> DOES THIS BECOME MATERIAL
TYPE CONTRACT? >> SURE SOUND LIKE IT TO ME.
>> THAT'S TOO FAR EL THAT'S TOO FAR OVER.
>> BUT IF WE HAVE OUR NEXT MEETINGS OUR NEXT MEETING FOR THE 14TH, AND WE WILL NOT BE READY TO TALK TO THE COMMISSION.
>> THAT'S JUST NOT GOING TO HAPPEN IN OCTOBER; RIGHT?
>> IT'S A PROBLEM IF WE PUSH OUT FURTHER.
>> WE DON'T HAVE THE SCOPE, THOUGH.
>> I KNOW I'M JUST SAYING. >> OR DO YOU GIVE THEM A BRIEF WHERE WE ARE. AND AREN'T.
>> WHO IS THEY? >> YOU ARE ALL FORGETTING THERE'S AN ELECTION. THREE COMMISSIONERS AREN'T GOING TO BE -- THIS WHOLE PROCESS IS AS FAR AS I'M CONCERNED.
WE NEED TO WORK THROUGH. >> WE HAVE A DATE OF JULY --
>> WHERE DID THAT COME FROM? >> IT CAME FROM MY PERSONAL
FORMS EVALUATION. >> NEXT MEETING WHAT ARE WE
GOING TO DO. >> WE WILL DO WHATEVER BUSINESS
IS ON THE AGENDA. >> I THANKS.
>> AS IT RELATES TO THIS, THOUGH.
>> I'M SORRY. >> AS IT RELATES TO THIS EFFORT,
WILL WE DO ANYTHING? >> WE WILL HAVE DISCOVER CARD AND LOOK AT COME PONDS COMP PLAN.
>> GET AS MUCH OF THAT AS I CAN. KNOWING THAT THERE'S PIECES OF THIS STARTED. BUT NOT IN A WAY THAT BEEN DESCRIBE TONIGHT. I WILL TRY TO GET YOU SOME TOOMS THAT WILL BE BENEFICIAL. OVER THE NEXT WEEK OR TWO YOU COULD PROVIDE WHERE YOU THINK THE ISSUES ARE AND COMPREHENSIVE
PLAN THAT NEEDS TO BE ADDRESSED. >> I THINK IN A SHORT VERSION THAT COULD BE ACCOMPLISHED. SOME OF THE OTHER PIECES MAY
HAVE TO BE FOLLOWED UP. >> BY THE NEXT MEETING, WE NEED TO BASED ON WHAT INFORMATION WE HAVE AVAILABLE TO US WE NEED TO MAKE SOME COMMON SENSE AGREEMENT ON WHAT WE WANT THE STRUCTURE AND WHAT WE SEE AS SCOPE OF WORK.
OKAY. >> WHAT WE HAVE TO DO ANYTHING -- WE HAVE A -- [INAUDIBLE]
>> WE NEED TO LACK AT THE COMP PLAN AND SEE WHAT SECTION YOU
WANT TO BE THE CHAMPION. >> ALL RIGHT.
>> ONCE WE KNOW WHAT IS ALREADY THERE, THAT'S LESS CONCERNS OF THE COMMUNITY. AND WE FOCUS ON WHAT IS NOT IN
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THE COMP PLAN. I WOULD SEE THAT AS -- I WOULD LIKE TO SEE IT AS THE BOARD SEE WHAT JUST BECAUSE IT'S A CONCERN IN THE COMMUNITY, ONE PERSON BROUGHT IT UP.>> IT'S -- THERE'S A LOT OF STUFF.
>> AND IF YOU KNOW, IF IN THE MEMBER YOU CAN'T COMMIT TO DOING TAKING ON CHAMPION MAYBE YOU AND ANOTHER COMMITTEE MEMBER COULD DO SOMETHING TOGETHER. NOT TRY TO PUT PRESSURE ON YOU.
THERE'S A LOT OF WAYS TO CUT IT. >> THE MEMBERS ARE TERMS ARE UP
THIS YEAR. >> THE COMP PLAN WAS JUST ONE SECTION. YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE COMP
PLAN. >> YOU NEED A COMP PLAN FIRST.
>> YOU WOULD HAVE A COORDINATED CHAMPION FOR LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE. THAT WILL FEED INTO --
>> WHEN YOU DO COMP PLAN YOU HAVE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE THAT YOU WILL HAVE THINK ABOUT WHILE YOU ARE DOING IT.
THEY GO HAND IN HAND. >> I UNDERSTAND.
I'M JUST THINKING ABOUT THE WORK CHART.
>> IF YOU DON'T LIKE THAT'S FINE.
>> I DOESN'T HURT ANYBODY'S FEELING.
>> IT'S JUST AN IDEA. WE CAN REDO IT.
>> MY THINKING WE'VE GOT THE LIST OF THINGS FROM THE COMMUNITY. WE GOT TO GET THAT INTO A USABLE DOCUMENT THAT WE'RE ALL WORKING ON THE SAME PAGE.
WE MAY SIT THERE AND SAY -- I MIGHT INTERPRET IT AND SOMEONE
WE'RE ALL TIRED OF TALKING ABOUT THIS.
>> I WANT TO POINT OUT YOU HAVE A COUPLE OF REGULAR BOARD BUSINESS ITEMS THAT WILL APPEAR ON THE NEXT MEETING AGENDA.
AT THIS POINT I'M NOT AWARE THAT THE VIRTUAL CAPABILITY ORDER HAS BEEN EXTEND. JUST KEEP IN MIND.
HOPEFULLY WE GET GUIDANCE LATER THIS WEEK OR EARLY NEXT WEEK.
>> MAYBE THE END OF THE MONTH. >> YES, YES.
AND SO YOU HAVE COUPLE OF AND ANNOTATIONS.
>> IT WORKS OUT VERY WELL. >> I AGREE.
>> THEY DON'T HAVE TO. THE CITY RULES AND REGULATIONS.
>> THAT'S CORRECT. >> I CAN FORWARD TO YOU A CORRESPONDENCE BETWEEN THE CITY ABOUT THAT.
>> THE CITY RESPONDED TO THAT. >> I ASSUME IT WILL GO TO COURT.
YES, IT IS. >> I'M HAPPY TO SEND THAT CORRESPONDENCE TO EVERYONE. I WILL SEND CORRESPONDENCE TO MR. BENNETT EARLIER TODAY. SO YOU CAN SEE THAT.
>> IT WAS KIND OF LIKE A QUICK REPLY.
>> LOOKS LIKE REFRIDGE AITOR -- REFRIGERATOR.
>> I LIKE THIS. ACTUALLY WE GOT A LETTER FROM THE CHAMBER OF COMMERCE. AND THEN I GOT A CALL THIS MORNING FROM THE CHAMBER EXPRESSING THAT INTEREST IN BEING ACTIVE PARTICIPANTS IN THE PROCESS.
>> I THINK BEFORE YOU CLOSE. WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THOSE MEMBERS WHO ATTENDING VIRTUALLY DON'T HAVE ANYTHING TO
OH, NO. ARE THERE ANY MEMBERS THAT WANT
TO SAY ANYTHING OR PARTICIPATE? >> THEY'VE BEEN WAI
WAIVING -- WAVING THEIR HANDS. >> I CAN'T SEE THEM.
>> CAN WE -- FROM ERIC SMIDT. [INAUDIBLE]
ANYBODY THAT WANT TO CONTRIBUTE OR SAY ANYTHING BEFORE WE CLOSE
OUT THIS MEETING? >> HOW MANY DID YOU HAVE?
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ALL RIGHT. WE ARE ADJOURNED.THANK YOU ALL VERY MUCH FOR YOUR TIME AND YOUR ENERGY.
AND W
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