[Call to Order]
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          O 
          >> WE'LL GO AHEAD AND CALL TO ORDER AT THIS TIME, WELCOME. 
          THIS IS THE CITY OF FERNANDINA BEACH COMMISSION REGULAR MEETING. IT IS SEPTEMBER 1ST OF 2020 AND IT'S 6 P.M. MADAM CLERK IF YOU WOULD CALL 
          THE ROLL PLEASE. >> MAYOR MILLER, HERE. 
          VICE MAYOR KREGER, HERE. COMMISSIONER CHAPMAN, HERE, COMMISSIONER ROSS, HERE CHEM CAN COMMISSIONER LEDNOVICH. 
          HERE. >> WE'LL RISE FOR THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE, AND THE INVOCATION TO BE GIVEN BY ANTHONY DANIEL OF THE MACEDONIA AME CHURCH. 
          >> GOOFNG, I PREPARED A PRAYER, BECAUSE I NEEDED TO BE FOCUSED CONCISE. WHAT I BELIEVE THE LORD IS LEADING US IN THESE TRYING TIMES. 
          PRAY WITH ME. LORDS GOD OF OUR  UNIVERSE, AS E ASSEMBLE IN OUR CULTURES, POLITICAL, CULTURAL, RACIAL, ECONOMIC, RELIGIOUS BY THE HOLY AND EVERLASTING SPIRIT, FALL FRESH ON US THIS DAY. IN THE GRIPS OF COVID-19, LORD, WE ACKNOWLEDGE YOUR AWESOME AND AMAZING PRESENCE AMONG US IS AN WE GIVE YOU THANKS FOR THE INDELIBLE STRENGTH YOU HAVE IMPARTED UPON US, THE SOURCE OF LIGHT IN THOSE VERY DIFFICULT TIMES. GRANT US YOUR CONTINUED GUIDANCE AND DIRECT US AS WE NAVIGATE UNCHARTED TERRITORIES, WE TRAVEL OH HEAVENLY FATHER, WE TRAVAIL AND WE TRAVAIL THESE WATERS LORD GOD, ALTHOUGH NOT AS PEOPLE WITHOUT HOPE, FOR WE KNOW THAT WE ARE NOT ALONE AND YOU ARE OUR STRENGTH. 
          SO WE PETITION YOU TO CONTINUE TO STRENGTHEN US AS WE ENDURE. 
          WE SEEK IN THIS CHAMBER YOUR WISDOM YOUR GUIDANCE YOUR DIRECTION, SPEAK, LORD GOD, TO THING INDIVIDUALS WHO GOVERN US, BLESSINGS OF CHEER, LORD GOD, BLESSINGS OF HOPE AND ENCOURAGEMENT, GRANT THE FEELINGS OF UNIT UNITY FROM TIMO TIME, ALLOW US TO SHARE THE GRIEF OF THOSE WHO HAVE LOST BROTHERS AND SISTERS AND CARE FOR THE COMPASSIONS OF THIS TERRIBLE AND TRIVIAL TIME LORD GOD AND WE TRUST O HEAVENLY FATHER AND PROTECT US IN FAVOR OF THESE BLACK LIVES MATTER THAT ARE SWEEPING OUR COUNTRY. MAY WE FIND WAYS TO STAND IN SOLIDARITY AGAINST VIOLENCE, PREDATORY PRACTICES AND DISHONESTY AND FAVOR LORD GOD, MAY WE SPEAK O HEAVENLY FATHER FOR JUSTICE AND EQUALITY FOR ALL PEOPLE. 
          SO MAKE US MOLD US SHAPE US THIS EVENING LORD GOD, BLESS OUR MAYOR, BLESS THIS COUNCIL, BLESS THOSE IN LEADERSHIP O HEAVENLY FATHER THAT WE MAY FIND YOUR PEACE, GUIDE US AND DIRECT US WITH THE DECISIONS THAT NEED TO BE MADE FOR THE BETTERMENT O HEAVENLY FATHER OF ALL THOSE WHO ARE -- FALLING UNDER MY VOICE AND WITHIN THE CITY FOR WHICH THEY GOVERN WE PLAY THESE BLESSINGS IN YOUR MIGHTY NAME AMEN. 
          >> THANK YOU SIR. I'D LIKE TO WELCOME A COUPLE OF CANDIDATES HERE, MR. S STURGIS, ITEM FEURP 1 ASK A PRESENTATION 
          [4.1 PRESENTATION - NASSAU HUMANE SOCIETY]
FROM THE NASSAU HUMANE SOCIETY WITH OUR DOG OOF THE MONTH. 
          >> SO THIS IS DIAMOND, SHE IS THREE YEARS OLD. 
          SHE AS BEEN WITH US FOR AFEW DAYS BUT SHE HAS WONDERFUL WITH LEASH MANNERS, CAR RIDING MANNERS, SHE LIKES TO LEAN, SHE IS HOUSE BROKEN, I'M ASSUMING SHE WILL BE OKAY. 
          THAT'S ABOUT IT, AS MUCH AS I KNOW. 
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SHE HASN'T BEEN WITH US VERY LONG. 
          SHE IS A LEANER THOUGH. >> HOW OLD IS SHE? 
          >> SHE IS THREE. >> I'M TOLD SHE DOES SIT BUT SHE DOESN'T DO IT ON COMMAND BUT WHILE WE WERE WAITING SHE DID SIT AND DID LAY DOWN. SHE IS VERY CALM AND RELAXED. 
          >> THAT IS FANTASTIC. DID YOU SAY IT'S CHATHAM COUNTY? 
          >> UH-HUH. >> IT IS NOT A NO-KILL SHELTER. 
          >> THEY ARE FULL. I DON'T BELIEVE THEY ARE A KILL SHELTER, THEY ARE FULL SO THEY DID REACH OUT TO US. 
          WE PULLED FROM THEM, WE'VE ALSO PULLED FROM LAKE CITY RECENTLY AND WE'VE PULLED FROM A RESCUE CALLED THE UNDERGROUND TRAIL ROAD WHICH IS PRETTY FUNNY AND THOSE DOGS ARE NOW GETTING OUT OF RED AND INTO OUR BLUE, YELLOW, READY FOR ADOPTION, WE 
          PULLED SEVEN OF THOSE GUYS. >> I THINK IT'S GREAT THAT YOU TAKE THE OVERLOAD FROM SHELTERS, THAT IS A GREAT PROGRAM. 
          >> WE DO TOO. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 
          WE HOPE YOU DO WELL. >> THANK YOU. 
          >> HAVE A GREAT NIGHT. THANK THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 
          >> OKAY, TOUGH ACT TO FOLT BUT 4.2, THIS IS A PRESENTATION FROM 
          [4.2 PRESENTATION - FERNANDINA BEACH MAIN STREET PROGRAM]
THE FERNANDINA BEACH CAN MAIN STREET PROGRAM. 
          ARLENE FILKOFF IS HERE TO PRESENT. 
          WELCOME MA'AM. >> ARLENE FILKOFF, I'VE BEEN ASSURED THAT THIS IS REALLY EASY. 
          THIS IS A HECK OF A TIME FOR THE DOWNTOWN AND THE MAIN STREET PROGRAM SO WE HAVE BEEN EXTREMELY BUSY WITH PRIMARILY COMMUNICATIONS AND ATTEMPTING TO DO A BOAT LOAD OF VIRTUAL EVENTS TO GET PEOPLE DOWNTOWN AND MORE INTERESTED IN WHAT'S HAPPENING IN SOME OF OUR BUSINESSES. AT MINIMUM, WE'VE PROVIDED WEEKLY UPDATES TO ALL OF THE BUSINESSES DOWNTOWN IN TE TERMSF UPDATES TO CARES PROGRAM, EXECUTIVE ORDERS, INFORMATION ON HOW TO GET PPE, IN BULK, ET CETERA, ET CETERA, ET CETERA, WE HAVE A LOOT OF BUSINESSES DOWNTOWN WHO ARE HELPING EACH OTHER OUT. I WANT TO SHOUT-OUT TO THE A&M AMELIA ISLAND, PRODUCTS TO OTHER BUSINESSES FOR FREE SO THEY'VE DONE AFTERNOON EXCELLENT JOB OF BEING A COMMUNITY PARTNER. 
          THE EVENTS THAT WE HAD INCLUDED TRIVIAL PURSUIT, BINGO, MASK DOWNTOWN, WE HIGHLIGHTED MATCHING DOWNTOWN BUSINESSES. 
          WE HAVE A COMEDY CRAWL COMING UP SO GET YOUR TICKETS ONLINE. 
          WE HAVE TWO GREAT COMEDIANS. ONE WILL BE PERFORMING AT CARIBOU AND YOU ALSO CAN GUY A VIRTUAL TICKET IF YOU DON'T FEEL COMFORTABLE GOING IN PERSON AND THE OTHER WILL BE PERFORMING AT SUMMER HOUSE, A CO-SPONSORSHIP OF SUMMER HOUSE AND AMELIA ISLAND COFFEE. SO OUR BUSINESSES ARE WORKING HARD WITH US TO TRY AND PROMOTE THE CONCEPT OF CONTINUING TO COME DOWNTOWN. WE COMPLETED WITH THE TDC A GRANT APPLICATION TO COMPLETE OUR SIGNAGE PROJECT WHICH WOULD ADDRESS THE STANDARDIZED REGULATORY SIGN LANGUAGE THAT WE HAVE DOWNTOWN TO TRY TO GET THOSE MORE STANDARD AND TO HAVE THEM MORE OF A LOOK AND FEEL FOR THE REST OF THE SIGNAGE. 
          SO WE'VE GOT A GRANT APPLICATION IN TO THE COUNTY NOW FOR THAT. 
          ANDI BELIEVE THAT I'M SUPPOSED TO ATTEND NEXT MONDAY NIGHT'S MEETING TO FIND OUT WHETHER THAT WILL HAPPEN OR NOT. 
          WE PARTICIPATED IN AN INTERVIEW PROGRAM WITH THE MUSEUM WHICH IS DOCUMENTING THE IMPACT OF COVID ON BUSINESS AREAS AND CITIES. 
          AROUND THE COUNTRY. AND WE REPRESENTED THE BUSINESS COMMUNITY OF FERNANDINA BEACH IN THOSE INTERVIEWS. 
          WE BEGAN THE OFFICIAL PROCESS FOR SELECTION OF A NEW MAIN STREET EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, WE STARTED OUT WITH EIGHT VERY VIABLE CANDIDATES, WE NARROWED THAT DOWN TO OUR FINAL SELECTION, AND WE'RE IN NEGOTIATIONS RIGHT NOW. 
          WE'RE HOPING THAT THAT WILL HAPPEN, EVERYTHING WILL BE SIGNED, SEALED, DELIVERED AND THAT PERSON WILL START BY THE END OF OCTOBER. MY COMMITMENT TO THE CITY AND TO THE MAIN STREET BOARD IS TO STAY WITH THE PROGRAM, IN WHAT CAPACITY THE NEW ED NEEDS, EITHER AS A SHADOWING, AS PART TIME, SHADOWING, OR ON AN ON-CALL SITUATION. 
          WHATEVER WORKS BEST. AND FOR HOWEVER LONG. 
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UNTIL 12-31-2020. WE PROVIDED DAILY SOCIAL MEDIA MARKETING FOR ALL OF OUR BUSINESSES DOWNTOWN. 
          WE HAD DIFFERENT TYPES OF PROGRAMS GOING TO HELP THEM WITH THOSE THINGS. WE'VE MET WITH THE REGIONAL MAIN STREET COMMUNITIES TO SHARE ISSUES. 
          TO SHARE THOUGHTS AND IDEAS AND PROMOTIONS AND WAYS TO HELP BUSINESSES AS WELL AS TO HELP OURSELVES. 
          BECAUSE WE ARE ALL IN THE SAME BOAT AS A NONPROFIT, WE HAVE NOT BEEN ABLE TO DO FUNDRAISING EVENTS DURING THIS TIME. 
          SO WE'VE BEEN WORKING TOGETHER WITH THEM TO TRY TO COME UP WITH IDEAS TO TRY TO HELP THOSE KINDS OF PROGRAMS. WE HAD THIS YEAR THE PLAIN STREET CONFERENCE, THE ANNUAL CONFERENCE WAS HELD IN CONCERT WITH THE FLORIDA PRESERVATION TRUST WHICH WAS A EXTREME SYNERGISTIC COMBINATION. 
          SO WE LEARNED A LOT FROM EACH OTHER AND A LOT OF THOSE PROGRAMS THOUGH WERE SPECIFICALLY ADDRESSING COVID AND WHAT'S GOING ON THROUGHOUT THE STATE. 
          RIGHT NOW WE'RE PULLING TOGETHER A LOT OF DATA TO SUPPORT OUR EXPANSION PROJECT AND IT IS COMING FROM EXTREMELY DISPARATE SOURCES SO THERE'S NOT ONE EASY WAY WE'RE FINDING TO GET A LIST OF ALL THE BUSINESSES IN THAT DISTRICT, WHO OWNS THE PROPERTY, WHO OWNS THE BUSINESS. IT'S APPARENTLY THE CITY SYSTEMS ARE NOT SET UP TO SUPPORT THAT WITHOUT SPENDING QUITE A BIT OF MONEY TO DO IT. SO WE'RE GRABBING DATA FROM THE CHAMBER, FROM THE PROPERTY APPRAISER'S OFFICE, MR.ING FROME EARTH, DRIVING AROUND AND FINDING OUT WHO'S IN CHARGE AND TRYING TO GET THAT DOWN INTO A DATABASE THAT WE CAN START OUR COMMUNICATION EXPANSION FIRST TO GET THOSE BUSINESSES INVOLVED. 
          THERE ARE ALSO SOME MAIN STREET COMMUNITIES WHO -- AND THIS EXPANSION BECAUSE OF THE PATH IT TAKES, WILL INCLUDE SOME RESIDENTS. AND THERE ARE OTHER MAIN STREET COMMUNITIES WHO HAVE THAT SAME SITUATION, AND THEY HAVE ACTUALLY FORMED A SEPARATE GROUP FOR THEIR RESIDENTS. 
          SO THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE MIGHT THINK OF IN THE FUTURE. 
          WITH ASSISTANCE FROM MS. JACOBS AND THE CITY WHO SITS ON OUR ORGANIZATIONAL COUNCIL WE HAVE COMMITTED A GRANT APPLICATION FOR POST-COVID STRATEGIES FOR THE BUSINESSES. 
          SO WE'RE HOPING WE FOUND OUT WE GOT THIS IN EARLY SPRING AND TAKE OFF HELPING OUR BUSINESSES FIGURE OUT WHAT TO DO NEXT. 
          WE HAVE -- AS I'VE MENTIONED HERE BEFORE WE HAVE SEVERAL BUSINESSES DOWNTOWN WHO DID NOT HAVE GOING INTO COVID, THEY DID NOT HAVE AN ONLINE PRESENCE OF ANY KIND. 
          SO WE'RE WORKING ON SOME TRAINING EXPERIENCES FOR THEM TO HELP THEM WITH FACEBOOK, SOME BUSINESSES IN OTHER COMMUNITIES FOR EXAMPLE, AND ONE OR TWO HERE ARE ACTUALLY DOING THIS. 
          THEY'RE DOING A FACEBOOK LIVE SELLING EVENT SO THAT PEOPLE CAN SEE AWAY THEIR WEARS ARE AND ACTUALLY BUY THROUGH FACEBOOK WITHOUT HAVING TO GO TO A SEPARATE WEBSITE OF ANY KIND. 
          SO WE'RE HOPING THAT WE CAN PROMOTE THAT INTO THAT WORLD. 
          ONE OF THE THINGS I DIDN'T PUT A BULLET HERE FOR BUT IT'S WORTH MENTIONING. WE HAVE LOST TWO BUSINESSES FROM DOWNTOWN AT THIS POINT, THREE BUSINESSES FROM DOWNTOWN. 
          ONE I WOULD SAY COVID WAS THE TRIGGER. 
          I THINK IT WAS COMING FOR A WHILE. 
          THAT SPACE HAS ALREADY BEEN FILLED GIVEN. 
          IF OTHER ONE COVID WAS THE TRIGGER, IT'S BEEN COMING FOR A WHILE, THAT SPACE HAS ALREADY BEEN FILLED AGAIN AND THAT IS WITH A BUSINESS THAT HAS A SITE IN AUGUSTA, GEORGIA AND THEY'RE GOING TO CREATE A SECOND BUSINESS HERE. 
          THE PINEAPPLE PATCH, MS. JAMES DECIDE STOWED RETIRE, COVID WAS THE TRIGGER. IS SOME BUSINESSES WERE ALREADY HERE, THEY WANT A SECOND BUSINESS OR SOME WANT TO GO INTO A LARGER SPACE THAN THEY HAVE NOW. 
          THERE ARE MANY ON THE SIDE STREETS WHO WOULD PREFER TO BE ON CENTER STREET BUT NOT EVERYBODY CAN BE ON CENTER STREET. SO WE ARE WORKING WITH THE 
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PROPERTY OWNERS TO TRY O TO GET THE RIGHT MATCHES FOR WHAT THEY WOULD LIKE TO SEE FOR THEIR PROPERTY AND WHAT THE BUSINESSES NEED. SO THIS IS -- I'M SORT OF DOING MATCH MAKER-MARCH MAKER STUFF WITH THAT ONE. 
          THE FIRST QUARTER WILL INCLUDE SOCIAL MEDIA TRAINING AND WEBSITE DEVELOPMENT TRAINING. SO WE ARE ACTUALLY WORKING ON A PROPOSAL WITH FSCJ TO PROVIDE THE TRAINERS TO HELP US DO THAT. 
          I'M NOT SURE AT WHAT RATE WE CAN AFFORD IT BUT WE'RE GOING TO WORK WITH THEM TO TRY TO MAKE THAT HAPPEN. 
          IF WE RECEIVED THAT GRANT THAT I MENTIONED WE'LL BEGIN IMPLEMENTATION OF THOSE POST-COVID STRATEGIES IN THE FIRST QUARTE. AS I SAID WE WILL INSTALL THE NEW ED IN OCTOBER AND BEGIN THE IMPLEMENTATION OF OUR EXPANSION. 
          WE ARE IMPLEMENTING A MAIN STREET MEMBER AND COMMUNITY SUPPORT PROGRAM. IN THE PAST PAST, WE HAD OPTED AGAINST A MEMBERSHIP, AND WHAT WE'VE DISCOVERED BY TALKING WITH ALL OF OUR SISTER COMMUNITIES IS THAT THAT'S REALLY -- THAT'S SHOOTING OURSELVES IN THE FOOT. SO WE ARE IMPLEMENTING A MEMBERSHIP AND COMMUNITY SUPPORT PROGRAM. 
          SO ON OUR WEBSITE, FERNANDINA BEACHMAINSTREET.COM, GO TO THE PAGE ALL OF YOU THAT SAYS SUPPORT MAIN STREET. 
          AND YOU CAN DONATE RIGHT THERE. WITH A CREDIT CARD. 
          YOU CAN EVEN PUT IN RECURRING PAYMENTS RIGHT THERE. 
          SO WE'RE WORKING ON MAKING IT ALL EASY FOR YOU NOT TO HAVE TO THINK ABOUT WHERE THAT MONEY IS GOING. 
          IT'S JUST GOING TO HELP DOWNTOWN RIGHT NOW. 
          AND WE'VE GLOT A LOT OF WORK TO DO. 
          SO DES ANY QUESTIONS? >> MR. MAYOR. 
          >> SIR YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO -- YOU'RE GOING TO NEED TO COME TO THE MICROPHONE. WE'LL PICK YOU UP FROM OVER THERE. I'M GOING TO MAKE YOU WALK -- 
          >> DON'T WANT TO GET THAT CLOSE TO YOU. 
          >> JUST DON'T BREATHE ON ME. 80 GOT TO BREATHE MS. FILKOFF, I'M SORRY, IS THERE ANY COST TO MAIN STREET TO JOIN? 
          BE. >> YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS? 
          >> (INAUDIBLE). >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 
          >> YES, TO BE A MEMBER THE MINIMUM AMOUNT IS $100. 
          IF YOU ARE A MEMBER WITH A BUSINESS DOWNTOWN YOUR NAMES WILL GO ON ALL THOSE SIGNS AND ALL THE MAPS THAT ARE DOWNTOWNS. 
          IF YOU ARE A MEMBER OF THE COMMUNITY, WE PUT YOUR NAME ON THE WEBSITE. AND THANK YOU TREMENDOUSLY FOR IT. WE GIVE YOU A LITTLE APPRECIATION STICKERS. BUT YOU CAN ALSO PAY WHATEVER 
          AMOUNT YOU'D LIKE. >> WE'VE GOT A BUSINESS, YOU WANT TO PAY 50, WE'LL TAKE 50 IS WHAT YOU'RE SAYING? 
          >> TO BE A MEMBER IT'S 100. >> I'M ASKING SOME QUESTIONS. 
          I DON'T KNOW ALL THESE PEOPLE -- >> YOU CAN WRITE US IN YOUR 
          WILL. >> YOU THINK I'M GOING TO DIE SOON? 
          >> NO I JUST WANT TO BE ABLE TO COUNT ON WHEN IT HAPPENS. 
          >> IT WILL HAPPEN. >> ME TOO. 
          >> ALL RIGHT THAT'S ALL I WANTED TO ASK. 
          >> ANYBODY ELSE? OKAY. 
          VICKY, IS THAT -- >> I'M ON THE LIST -- 
          >> I TELL YOU WHAT, WHEN YOU SPEAK ON THE ITEMS WE'LL BRING YOU BACK UP. THANK YOU VERY MUCH, 
          [5.1 CONSERVATION / ENVIRONMENT ]
MS. FILKOFF. OKAY ON TO SECTION 5. 
          THIS IS CITY COMMISSION DISCUSSION ITEMS. 5.1 IS CONSERVATION AND ENVIRONMENTAL. 
          THIS IS PLACED ON THE AGENDA AT THE REQUEST OF COMMISSIONER LEDNOVICH. COMMISSIONER LEDNOVICH, YOU HAVE 
          THE FLOOR. >> THANK YOU MR. MAYOR. 
          I WANTED TO KNOW FROM THE CITY MANAGER IF WE HAD A RESPONSE ON DETERMINING ON SC ESCAMBIA SLEWF THEY ARE GOING TO START AN 
          INVESTIGATION, IF AND WHEN. >> THERE HAS BEEN NO RESPONSE FROM MR. GODWIN. IF SPECIFIC I.D. NUMBERS IDENTIFIED BY MR. MANDRICK, THE SPECIFIC SYSTEMS ON THE SEPTIC SYSTEM, TO INVESTIGATE IF THERE ARE FAILING SEPTIC SYSTEMS. SO I EXPECT THAT IF I DON'T HEAR FROM HIM BACK IN 30 DAYS I'LL 
          SEENDSEND A GENERALITY REMINDER. >> THANK YOU. 
          [5.2 WATERFRONT DEVELOPMENT]
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          >> 5.2, WATERFRONT DEVELOPMENT PUT ON THE AGENDA AT THE REQUEST OF COMMISSIONER LEDNOVICH. YOU HAVE THE TH FLOOR. 
          >> I'M ASSUMING A CITY COMMISSIONER HAS SOMETHING CONVERSATION AROUND THIS OR THE CITY MANAGER. 
          >> ACTUALLY THE ATTACHMENTS WERE PROVIDED BY MS. JACOBS BECAUSE THIS IS PART OF THE DISCUSSION RELATED TO THE RESILIENCY GRANT THAT WE NEED TO DECIDE HOW DO WE GO FORWARD WITH THE STATE GRANT THAT THE CITY WILL SUBMIT AN APPLICATION FOR. 
          I BELIEVE THE APPLICATION IS DUE IN OCTOBER. 
          SO WE NEED TO DECIDE AND THERE WAS A PREVIOUS DISCUSSION THAT PREVIOUS DISCUSSIONS WERE WHICH WATERFRONT DO WE WANT TO PURSUE FUNDING FOR, THE RIVER WATERFRONT OR THE OCEAN WATERFRONT. WHICH IS WHY THE ATTACHED 
          DOCUMENTS ARE INCLUDED. >> OKAY, SO MR. MAYOR, SHOULD WE DISCUSS THIS AT THIS TIME? OR WHEN WE GET TO THE DUNE 
          DISCUSSION? >> WE'RE GOING TO MAKE A DECISION, YOU MENTIONED THE WORD DECISION, WE'LL DO IT ON THIS ONE, WE'LL MAKE THE DECISION ON THE AGENDA ITEM IN CASE SOMEONE 
          [5.3 BEACHES]
          IS DOMG SPEAK. >> ALL RIGHT. 
          >> 5.3, BEACHES, PLACED ON THE AGENDA AT THE REQUEST OF VICE 
          MAYOR KREGER. >> MY POWERPOINT PLEASE. 
          ORIGINALLY I STARTED THIS POWERPOINT AS A RECOMMENDATION I ALREADY MADE, WHICH WE'VE ALL HAD AND WE'VE DISCUSSED A COUPLE OF TIMES. AS IT TURNS OUT, BECAUSE THERE ARE ACTUALLY FOUR ITEMS ON THIS AGENDA THAT DEAL WITH GRANTS, THE FIRST BEING WE JUST WENT OVER, THE SHORELINE GRANT. 
          THE SECOND, THIS. THE THIRD, LEGISLATIVE REQUEST AND ACTUALLY THE CPI IS ON THERE, AS THE ACTUAL RECOMMENDATION. SO WHAT I WANTED TO DO WAS KIND OF GIVE AN OVERSIGHT OF IN REALITY WHAT HAPPENS IN SOME HAVE BEEN SUCCESSFUL OR NOT SUCCESSFUL. 
          SO IT STRETCHES A LITTLE BIT OUTSIDE OF BEACHES. 
          BUT IT'S AN INTERESTING CONCEPT BECAUSE WHAT I'M TRYING TO -- WHAT I WANT TO MAKE THE CASE IS THAT WHEN WE PUT IN FOR GRANTS, WE NEED TO LOOK AT THE POTENTIAL FOR SUCCESS. 
          SO IF I  IF YOU SHOW THE FIRST . YOU CAN JUST SKIP OVER THAT ONE. 
          SO HERE IS A DOCUMENT ON WHAT OUR FUNDING PRIORITIES ARE. 
          IF YOU LOOK AT BEACH WALKOVERS YOU WILL FIND THAT LAST YEAR WE GOT $146,000 AND MATCHED IT AND WE COMPLETED THREE WALKOVERS. 
          WE ALSO GOT $75,000 NO MATCH, WE'VE DISCUSSED THAT BEFORE HOW THAT STARTED IDENTITY AS A $10,000 MATCH AND BECAUSE, WE GOT A $75,000 A, AND THAT WAS AT ACCESS AT 5 SOUTH. 
          THEN WE HAD $500,000 IN THERE LAST YEAR WHICH ACTUALLY MADE IT SO -- AND THE POINT ABOUT THAT, I'M GOING TO TALK STONE WATER BECAUSE IT ONLY SHOWS A TREND. IN THE 2015 WE GOT CAN A MATCH, STILL ISN'T DONE. 2018, WE GOT A-6 WAS REJECTED AND 2020 WAS REJECTED. POINT BEING THAT AS YOU GO THROUGH THE LEGISLATIVE PROCESS, THIS ALL GOES TO THE DEP AND WHEN YOU DON'T COMPLETE PROJECTS, YOU DON'T GET MONEY. 
          THERE IS ALSO STRATEGIC PLANNING PROBLEM WITH THAT. 
          NEXT SLIDE. THIS IS ACTUALLY 8 NORTH AND 9 NORTH. THIS IS THE WALKOVER THAT WAS COMPLETED. AND I PUT THAT SLIDE THERE BECAUSE YOU'LL SEE THAT YOU LOOK REAL CLOSE ON THE RIGHT-HAND SIDE AND YOU'LL SEE THAT THE SEA OATS WERE PLANTED THERE AND THERE ARE SAND FENCES WHICH HAVE BEEN CONSISTENT WITH ALL OF OUR PROJECTS THAT WE'RE DOING. AND AT THIS POINT, I WANT TO MAKE THE POINT THAT THERE SOMEWHERE LATER TONIGHT THERE IS GOING TO BE A QUESTION OF LEGALITY. 
          THESE WALKOVERS GO THROUGH THE STATE LEGISLATURE, THE DEP, ARE PERMITTED BY THE DEP AND THEN ARE PERMITTED BY THE CITY. 
          SO THERE IS NO QUESTION ABOUT THE LEGALITY OF THESE WALKOVERS. 
          NEXT SLIDE. THIS IS THE 5 SOUTH WALKOVER. 
          AND AGAIN, THERE ARE SEA OATS TO THE RIGHT AND THERE ARE CONTROLLED ACCESS ON SOME OF THESE. 
          NEXT SLIDE. SHORELINE STABILIZATION. 
          MY CONCERN WITH THE SHORELINE STABILIZATION IS THE GRANT IS A $500,000 GRANT, NO MATCH, TO BE COMPLETED IN A YEAR. 
          IN 2018, WE RECEIVED $450,000 STATE MONEY, WHICH WAS ACTUALLY 
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REQUESTED, THAT WAS ORIGINALLY BASED ON ATM REQUEST AT PARKING LOT B WHICH WAS $950,000. WE DIDN'T SPEND THAT MONEY. 
          IT HAS SINCE BEEN REPURPOSED AND DOING A DESIGN ON IT NOW WHICH FITS INTO THE SHORELINE STABILIZATION. 
          2019 WE ASKED FOR MORE MONEY AND IT WAS REJECTED FROM THE STATE. 
          SO WHAT'S INTERESTING ARE, OUR REQUEST THAT YEAR WAS THE FIRST PRIORITY WAS A-6 STORM WATER REJECTED BECAUSE WE DIDN'T SPEND A-5. SECOND WAS SHORELINE STABILIZATION BECAUSE WE DIDN'T SPEND THAT LAST YEAR, AND THE THIRD PRIORITY WAS BEACH WALKOVERS AND IT WAS ACCEPTED. 
          THERE WERE OTHER REASONS THIS WENT IN, REMEMBER HURRICANE MICHAEL AND ALL THOSE THINGS. SO WHEN WE LOOK AT ELASTIC LEGISLATIVETHINGS WE'RE LOOKINGT MITES BE SUCCESSFUL. 
          ADDITIONALLY WITH SHORELINE STABILIZATION, YOU MAY OR YOU MAY NOT REMEMBER, WE ACTUALLY HAVE ON THE BOOKS A LOCAL MITIGATION STRATEGY. WHICH IS A RATED SYSTEM WHICH IS ACTUALLY THE SECOND HIGHEST LOCAL MITIGATION STRATEGY THAT IS ACTUALLY $5.8 MILLION AND IT'S FROM PARKING, IT'S FROM 101 NORTH, PARKING LOT A, PARKING LOT A, PARKING LOT B, PARKING LOT C, PARKING LOT D, AND ACTUALLY INCLUDED LIVING SHORELINES FOR PARKING LOT D. ANOTHER GRANT WAS A WATERFRONT DRAINAGE PROBLEM WAS PUT IN AND REJECTED MOST LIKELY WE THINK AND LAUREL IS HERE SHE CAN CORRECT ME, BECAUSE IT WASN'T A TOTAL PROJECT AND LMS WOULDN'T APPROVE A PARTIAL PROJECT WHICH IS NOT THE CASE WITH THIS ONE. SO THERE IS SOME SUPPORTING DOCUMENTATION. BUT MY CONCERN IS THAT CAN WE FINISH IT IN A YEAR, IS IT A $500,000. 
          THIS ONE ESTIMATED A MILLION. PLUS FOR THAT SECTION. 
          THE OTHER ONE WAS 2.7 MILLION. AND THE IMPORTANT THING ABOUT THE SHORELINE STABILIZATION IS, WHAT WE'RE CALLING THE AMELIA RIVERSIDE, THE FEDERAL PROGRAM WHICH WAS ANNOUNCED, THEY'LL NOWTION PROBABLY FOUR OR FIVE COMMISSION MEETINGS AGO, WHICH IS A $27 MILLION PROJECT WHICH WILL GO THROUGH THE CONGRESS, WHICH IN FACT SETS THE HEIGHT AT NINE FEET ABOVE MEAN SEA LEVEL. 
          WHICH IS THE HEIGHT WE SET LAST YEAR AT OUR GOAL-SETTING. 
          SO FOR THE PLANNING, THAT'S THE WHOLE WATERFRONT. 
          SO ANYTHING WE DO WITH THE SHORELINE STABILIZATION HAS TO INCLUDE ALL THOSE THINGS. AND THAT AREA IS ABOUT 7 FEET. 
          SO IT'S GOING TO BE A COMPLICATED SYSTEM. 
          I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WHATEVER THE COMMISSION RECOMMENDS IS DOABLE AND IS A SMART THING TO DO. 
          NEXT ONE. THAT'S WHY WITH 6 L, IT'S CONSISTENT WITH STRATEGIC PLANNING, CITY COMP PLAN, DUNE MANAGEMENT PLAN. WE ADOPTED THE CORPS OF ENGINEERS PROVIDES ACCESSIBILITY AND YOU'LL REMEMBER THAT ON 6 L I ACTUALLY RECOMMEND THAT WE GO TO ADA. 
          AND ADA COST A LITTLE BIT MORE MONEY, IT'S 112 FEET FROM ON GRADE TO, GOES DOWN 96 FEET TO MEET ADA REQUIREMENTS. 
          YOU COULD SAVE A LITTLE MONEY BUT BY SAVING A LITTLE MONEY YOU STILL HAVE TO HAVE A SLOPE IN THERE. 
          AND YOU'RE GOING TO GET EXTRA POINTS IF WE DO ADA. 
          SO -- AND ALL THESE PROJECTS THAT WE'RE DOING, INCLUDE SEA OATS AND SAND FENCES WHICH ARE VERY EFFECTIVE FOR DUNES MANAGEMENT. AND IF YOU REALLY WANT TO SEE SOME GOOD DUNES MANAGEMENT GO DOWN TO THE COUNTIES. 
          GO DOWN TO AMERICAN BEACH AND LOOK SOUTH. 
          AND GO TO AMERICAN BEACH AND LOOK AT THEIR NEW WALKOVER, RECYCLED MATERIAL, LONG WALKOVER AND LOOK SOUTH AND YOU'LL SEE SAND FENCES ALL THE WAY DOWN AT LEAST TO THE OMNI. 
          AND YOU'LL SEE THEY'RE HALF BURIED AS YOU WILL ON OUR BEACHES IS WHERE ALL THE SIGNS HAVE SAND FENCES, YOU'LL SEE THAT THE SIGNS WE PUT IN IN 2011 ARE NOW ALMOST FULLY COVERED. 
          SO THE DUNES ARE DOING WELL. AND BOTTOM LINE IS WE'VE DONE WELL. WE'VE MET WITH THE RESILIENCY 
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PEOPLE. THEY LIKED OUR PROJECT LAST YEAR. IT'S A PROJECT I THINK WE CAN MOVE EFFECTIVELY. THE 500,000 LAST YEAR LEGISLATIVE REQUEST IS ONE OF THOSE FOR CONSIDERATION TOO. 
          WITH THAT, I THINK THAT'S RIGHT. THAT'S WHAT 6 LOOKS TODAY. 
          SO YOU'RE LOOKING ON THE LEFT YOU'RE LOOKING AT GRADE RIGHT ON OCEAN, AND THE RIGHT YOU'RE LOOKING FROM THE BEACH FROM THE, 112 FEET, YOU HAVE A 96 FOOT RAMP. 
          WHOLE THING WOULD BE RAMP. WHAT YOU WOULD HAVE TO DO IS YOU WOULD HAVE TO MAKE AN ADA PARKING SPOT PROBABLY ON FIRST STREET IN THAT AREA. AND ALTHOUGH OCEAN -- YOU THINK OCEAN SAND, OCEAN IS ACTUALLY PAVEMENT UNDERNEATH THAT SAND. 
          THAT'S AIT DEL. THANK YOU. 
          >> THANK YOU SIR. >> GO AHEAD SIR. 
          >> THANK YOU MR. MAYOR. I WAS JUST ON A PROCESS I KNOW MS. MINSHU IS HERE, I THINK SHE'S GOING TO ADDRESS A BEACH ACCESS SO WE'RE TALKING ABOUT BEACHES WOULD NOW BE THE 
          APPROPRIATE TIME TO HAVE HER -- >> YES, BECAUSE TRADITIONALLY WE DON'T TAKE LIKE ANY -- SPEAK LATER ON. 
          >> THANK YOU. >> COMMISSIONER ROSS, YOU'RE 
          RECOGNIZED SIR. >> DID YOU WANT A PRESENTATION NOW EVER OR DID YOU WANT IT OR ? I DON'T NEED SLIDES NOW. 
          THE CITY MAINTAINS 48 BEACH ACCESSES. 
          AND THE CITY HIRED AN ENGINEER TO CLARIFY, AND ASSESS THE REQUIRED WALKWAY REPAIRS AND/OR REPLACEMENTS TO ENSURE PUBLIC SAFETY. IF S THE ENGINEER FOUND THAT FIVE THOSE WALKOVERS NEEDED TO BE REMOVED AND THREE WERE. 
          ADDITIONALLY, 23 BACKOVERS ARE NEEDING FREER OR REPLACEMENT IN THE FUTURE. THE ESTIMATE IS APPROXIMATELY $7.2 MILLION. AND 2.5 MILLION FOR PUTTING WALKOVERS WHERE NO WALKOVERS EXIST. 
          ALTERNATIVES EXIST THAT PROVIDE ACCESS AND ALLOW THE DUNES TO GROW. THEY'RE NOT PERFECT. 
          BUT A COMBINATION OF ALTERNATIVES MAY BE DOABLE, CERTAINLY LESS EXPENSIVE AND CAN BE DONE AT A MUCH REDUCED COST. 
          THE PROBLEM IS, WE KEEP PUTTING UP THESE BEACH ACCESSES BUT WE DON'T INVOLVE THE COMMUNITY IN DECIDING WHERE THEY GO, WHAT THEY WANT, AND I WAS AS YOU MAY OR MAY NOT KNOW CALLED OUT TO I MET WITH 40 CONSTITUENTS OUT ON THE NORTH END AND THEY WERE REALLY OFFENDED THAT THEY HADN'T BEEN PART OF THIS PROCESS. 
          AND SO WHAT I WAS HOPING IS, TO FACILITATE COMMUNITY INPUT, PERHAPS THE PLANNING BOARD CAN FORM A SUBCOMMITTEE TO HAVE PUBLIC HEARINGS AND WORKSHOPS TO ENGAGE THE COMMUNITY IN COWMG TO A COMMUNITY CONSENSUS, NOT A COMMISSION CONSENSUS, BUT A COMMUNITY CONSENSUS AS TO WHAT THE CITY CAN AFFORD. 
          BECAUSE WE CERTAINLY -- I DON'T BELIEVE WE CAN AFFORD $9.7 MILLION. AND WHAT THE CITY CAN AFFORD AND ACCOMPLISH WHILE MAINTAINING GOOD BEACH ACCESS AND GROWING AND PROTECTING OUR DUNE SYSTEM. SO WE KEEP THAT GOING FOR GRANTS, WE KEEP DOING THIS BUT IT SEEMS TO ME A HODGEPODGE SOLUTION. AS YOU KNOW THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN SAYS BY THE BEAN WE'LL HAVA DUNE MANAGEMENT PLAN. 
          WE'RE SEVEN YEARS BEYOND THAT. WOULD I LIKE A CONSENSUS IF THERE IS A CONSENSUS HERE TO ASK THE CITY MANAGER TO, WHETHER WITH IT'S A PAB COMMITTEE OR AN AD HOC COMMITTEE OR WHATEVER, TO FORM THAT TO COME BACK AND COME UP WITH A COMMUNITY CONSENSUS OF WHAT WE WANT TO DO ABOUT IN. THIS IS A VERY IMPORTANT PROBLEM. IT IS A COMMUNITY, IT'S A COMMUNITY PROBLEM. SO THOSE ARE MY THOUGHTS. 
          >> OKAY, THANK YOU SIR. VICE MAYOR KREGER I BELIEVE 
          YOU'RE GOING FIRST. >> CHIP'S RIGHT, IT WAS MARCH NEABT, 2019, WHERE THE INSPECTION FORCED THE CLOSURE OE CLOSURE I THINK OF 13 WALKOVERS OUT OF 48. 
          THAT WAS YOU KNOW, WHAT WAS INTERESTING ABOUT THAT WAS IN THE PREVIOUS TWO YEARS THE CITY HAD DOCUMENTED 2770 HOURS WORTH 
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OF MAINTENANCE ON THOSE. SO SOMETHING WAS A LITTLE OFF ON THAT. I THINK CHIP HAS A GOOD IDEA OF INVOLVING THE COMMUNITY. JUST REMEMBER THAT FROM SATLER NORTH WE HAVE TO MAINTAIN THOSE WALKOVERS AS PART OF THE NASSAU COUNTY SHORE PROTECTION. THOSE BEACH ACCESSES, NOT NECESSARILY WALKOVERS. ALTHOUGH, AND AGAIN WE DO HAVE A NEW MANAGEMENT PLAN. AWOE ADOPTED A DUNE MANAGEMENT PLAN, 5-NOTHING, YOU MIGHT NOT LIKE IT BUT WE DID ADOPT IT. 
          THAT BEING SAID, THE CORPS OF ENGINEERS RECOMMENDED ELIMINATING THE GAPS, IF MONEY WEIGH AVAILABLE, BUT I HAVE NO PROBLEM AT ALL, I HAVE GOT CALLS TOO OF SPECIFICALLY PEOPLE SAYING THEY WANTED TO BE A PART OF IT. 
          OUR BIG PROBLEM IS, AND THIS WILL COME UP, IS FROM SATLER SOUTH, WHERE THERE'S 13 WALKOVERS, NONE OF THEM BUT ONE BREACHES THE FOUR DUNE, I BROUGHT THAT UP, WE TALKED ABOUT THAT MANY TIMES, REACHES THE FOREDUNE, WHICH IS AWAY WE'RE SUPPOSED TO BE PROTECTING, SEVEN,000 LINEAL FEET OF WALKOVER IF YOU WERE GOING TO DO OIT. 
          SIT. IT'S A SIGNIFICANT PROBLEM. 
          I AGREE WITH WHAT YOU'RE SAYING. >> COMMISSIONER LEDNOVICH. 
          >> I'M A BIT CONFUSED, ONCE AGAIN I COME TO THESE MEETINGS, I GET CONFUSED. AND I THOUGHT WE WERE GOING TO TALK ABOUT THIS ON ITEM 7.8 BUT IT SEEMS AS THOUGH WE'VE JUMPED THE GUN AND BECAUSE WE'VE JUMPED THE GUN THEN I'LL GET INTO MY PRESENTATION. BECAUSE THERE'S SOME SALIENT POINTS I'D LIKE TO MAKE. THANK YOU. 
          SO YOU CAN PULL THAT UP THAT WOULD BE GREAT. 
          SO, OUR LAST COMMISSION MEETING WE HEARD WE HAVE A DUNE MANAGEMENT PLAN, CORPS OF ENGINEERS. 
          THE REALITY IS WHILE IT SAYS IT IS A PLAN, IT IS NOT A PLAN. 
          IT IS A SET OF SUGGESTIONS AND RECOMMENDATIONS. 
          THE REASON IT IS NOT A PLAN IS THERE ARE NO PRIORITIES SET BY THE CORPS OF ENGINEERS. THERE IS NO FUNDING PLAN SET BY THE CORPS OF ENGINEERS. THERE IS NO TIME LINE FOR ANY OF THE GUIDELINES OR RECOMMENDATIONS THAT THE CORPS HAS IN THEIR REPORT WHICH IS OVER A YEAR OLD NOW. 
          THERE IS NO PLAN MANAGER. IN FACT THE DUNE PLAN MANAGER IS THE CITY MANAGER. ACCORDING TO THE COURT. 
          SO THERE IS OUR DUNE PLAN MANAGER RIGHT THERE. 
          WHAT ARE YOU DOING ABOUT THE DUNES? 
          >> TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHAT YOU'RE DOING. 
          >> OKAY. ALL RIGHT SO THAT'S THE REALITY. 
          THE RECOMMENDATIONS IS THAT DUNE INCORPORATION, VEHICLE ACCESS MODIFICATIONS AND PEDESTRIAN ACCESS MODIFICATIONS. 
          THAT'S WHAT THE REPORT SAYS. NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. 
          SO IF THE END IN MIND IS PRESERVATION OF THE DUNES, TO 
          MITIGATE FLOODING, CORRECT? >> THAT'S WHAT THE CORPS WANTS. 
          >> THAT'S WHAT THIS SAYS, THIS IS OUR PLAN, WE AD ADOPTED IT, RIGHT? HERE IS THE NUMBER 1 PRIORITY ON THE NORTH PART ON OCEAN AVENUE THAT THE CORPS IDENTIFIED. 
          THAT IS THE DOLPHIN AVENUE VEHICLE ACCESS POINT. 
          YOUING THTHAT IS 20 FEET WIDE. THEY SAID, IF YOU TAKE CARE OF ANYTHING, YOU MUST DO THIS FIRST. 
          YES WE CAN TALK ABOUT WALKOVERS, YES WE CAN TALK ABOUT WALK THROUGHS BLUT YOU'VE GOT A HUGE HOLE IN THE DIKE RIGHT HERE THAT THIS AREA IS VULNERABLE TO. AND THE CORPS WROTE ACCESSES THAT ARE PERPENDICULAR TO THE SHORELINE ARE THE LEAST DESIRABLE METHOD OF ACCESS BECAUSE IT PROVIDES MINIMAL RESISTANCE TO WAVES AND SURGE. NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. 
          SO WHAT THE CORPS RECOMMENDS IS TO RAISE THE ELEVATION OF THIS GAP TO 14 FEET, INSTALL A MOBY MAT FOR VEHICLE ACCESS AND BUILD A WALKOVER TO THE SOUTH. SO WHEN WE TALK ABOUT A PLAN, THAT WE'VE ADOPTED, WHY ARE WE TALKING ABOUT BUILDING WALKOVERS WHEN THE CORPS IN THE PLAN NAH THAT WE'VE ADOPTED SAYS THIS IS 
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THE TOP PRIORITY? NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. 
          AS FAR AS THE WALK THROUGHS GO, THE CORPS IDENTIFIED ALL THE WALK THROUGHS ALONG THE BHEECH AND IT SAID WHEN YOU CAN'T BUILD A WALKOVER TO COMMISSIONER ROSS'S POINT ABOUT WHAT WAS IT 
          $9 MILLION? >> 9.7. 
          >> 9.7 MILLION FOR WALKOVERS, THEN YOU BUILD SAND FENCES. 
          AND IT HAS THE PLAN FOR BUILDING SAND FENCES, RIGHT? WELL, WE DON'T HAVE IS A PRIORITIZED LIST OF WHAT WALK THROUGHS TO START WITH FIRST, AND ON AND ON AND ON AND ON. 
          WE DON'T HAVE A PLAN. NEXT ONE PLEASE. 
          OKAY AND THIS IS HOW THE CORPS IDENTIFIES THAT THE SAND FENCES ARE BUILT. YOU CAN SEE THE EXISTING ON THE LEFT, AND WHAT THEY RECOMMEND ON THE RIGHT. 
          OKAY, HOW TO DO IT. NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. 
          SO ON THE PROPOSAL FOR 6 NORTH, THIS IS WHY I RAISED THIS AT THE LAST MEETING ABOUT WHY I WAS CONFUSED. 
          BECAUSE I HAVE A SAND EXPERT, THE DUNE SCIENCE GROUP, WHO SAYS THIS LAYOUT IS PROBABLY ILLEGAL. IT WOULD RENDER USELESS A FEDERAL CONSTRUCTED FLOOD CONTROL FACILITY. 
          AND MORE IMPORTANTLY, IT REPRESENTS A STEP IMPACT WARDS IN THE CITY TRYING TO ACHIEVE THIS GOAL OF GETTING THIS AREA OUT OF THE FLOOD HAZARD ZONE. I DON'T KNOW WHETHER THAT'S RIGHT, WHETHER THAT'S WRONG, DR. HOFF IS HERE, HE'S GOING TO MAKE A PRESENTATION. THAT'S WHY I WANTED SOME EXPERTS HERE TO WALK US THROUGH THIS. OKAY? NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. AND SO THE WHOLE POINT OF MY PRESENTATION IS, WHERE DO WE START WITH A PLAN? WE CAN'T DO ANYTHING WITHOUT A PLAN. 
          NOW, COMMISSIONER ROSS IS SAYING, LET'S DO IT BY COMMITTEE. OKAY ACC, COMMITTEES TAKE TIME. 
          DO WE HAVE THE TIME? WE HAVE TO APPLY FOR A GRANTS. 
          OKAY WE HAVE A PROPOSAL FOR SIX NORTH, WE'RE GOING TO GET TO A DISCUSSION ABOUT THAT. BUT I THINK WE NEED A PLAN AND I THINK WE NEED TO ADDRESS THAT 20 FOOT GAP. 
          A AROUND I'M OPEN TO SUGGESTIONS. 
          THANK YOU MR. MAYOR. >> COMMISSIONER ROSS. 
          >> NUMBER 1, I WENT BACK AND LOOKED AT THE ORDINANCE OF ADOPTING THE CORPSE PLAN. IT'S REALLY A SUGGESTION, A GUIDING DOCUMENTS, THE TRUE WORDING IS IT'S A GUIDING DOCUMENT. AND NUMBER 2, IF WE COULD DR. HOFF IS HERE IF HE COULD GIVE A SHORT PRESENTATION. 
          >> NOT DURING THIS. I THINK IT'S DURING -- 
          >> WANTS TO DO IT DURING THEN? >> YES YES. 
          >> THAT'S 79. >> MAYBE WE CAN TALK ABOUT IT DURING THE OTHER TIME BUT WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO DO IS COME TO CONSENSUS, WHERE DO WE GO WITH A PLAN AND HOW IS THAT WORKINGS 
          BUT GRANT. >> GOTCHA. 
          VICE MAYOR KREGER. >> WELL, AS FAR AS FILLING THE GAPS, WE DO HAVE A PLAN. IT WAS OUR REQUEST, OUR LEGISLATIVE REQUEST LAST YEAR. SO IT LISTS THEM ALL, AND WHAT THEY ARE. SO WE HAVE A PLAN TO FILL THE 
          GAPS. >> WOULD YOU REPEAT THAT? 
          >> IT WAS OUR LEGISLATIVE REQUEST LAST YEAR. 
          THE ONE THAT THE $500,000. SO THERE IS A PLAN TO FILL THOSE GAPS. GOOD POINT WITH DOLPHIN. 
          AND THE SAME IS TRUE WITH SAP. BUT THERE IS A PLAN FOR FILLING THE GAPS. AND THAT'S WHAT WE SUBMITTED TO THE LEGISLATURE WHICH WEBSITES WHICH WENT TOTHE DEP BUT THE LEE VETOED. THERE IS A PLAN, SHOWS UP IN THE SUMMARY. SO I DON'T DISAGREE WHAT ANYBODY IS SAYING MOVING FORWARD, I WOULD JUST SAY THAT WITH A GOAL TO FILL THIS GAP, REMEMBER NOW FILLING THE GAPS WAS NOT GOING TO COST THE CITY, THERE WAS MONEY INVOLVED, IT WAS GAPS AND IMPACT FEES BECAUSE THERE WAS NO CONSTRUCTION. 
          SO THAT'S A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT. 
          I THINK THE REAL ISSUE IS SOUTH OF SATLER THAT'S SIGNIFICANT WHAT WE GOING TO DO AND THOSE ARE THE ONES IN 2019 CAM AFTER 2019 AFTER THEINSPECTION, THEY , FIVE FOUR THREE TWO ONE, I'M NOT 
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SURE WHERE WE ARE AT REINSPECTION, WE ARE AT SERIOUS FINANCIAL RISK, THERE WOULD BE A DISCUSSION OF ANOTHER WALKOVER TONIGHT AND THAT IS NOT UNCOMMON ON THE SOUTH END. 
          >> THANK YOU SIR. >> DR. HOFF YOU'RE TAKING NOTES 
          RIGHT? >> PARDON? 
          >> YOU'RE TAKING NOTES ON ALL OF THIS. 
          I THINK WE'RE HEARING ON THIS, ANYBODY ELSE? WE'LL DISCUSS ACKNOWLEDGE WE CAN'T MAKE DECISIONS NOW AND I WANT TO BRING DOWN THE CONVERSATION, I THINK WE'RE SORT OF IN A HAMSTER WHEEL, A DEJA VU CONVERSATION. 
          WE NEED TO MAKE A DECISION, FINAL REPLY DECIDE WHAT THE PLAN IS BUT I LOOK FORWARD TO HEARING FROM THE DOCTOR WHEN THAT ITEM COMES UP. MR. C KREGER ARE YOU GOOD WITH 
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          THAT? >> I'M GOOD. 
          >> NEXT ITEM. COMMISSIONER ROSS. 
          >> MAYBE THE CITY MANAGER CAN ANSWER THIS, WHY IS THE NORTHERN ATTENUATOR, WHICH IS PLATED, EXCEPT FOR FUELING, WHY AREN'T WE ALLOWING BOATS TO TIE UP THERE AND USE THAT FOR RENTABLE SPACE? IS. 
          >>  I HAD ASKED MR. SPRINGER, THAT HADN'T COME THROUGH. 
          DID YOU WANT TO ADD ADDITIONAL INSIGHT ON THAT JOE? MONTH SPRING? MR. SPRINGER. 
          >> JOE SPRINGER, CURRENT MARINA MANAGER. 
          COMMISSIONER ROSS, THE REASON WHY THE SIGNS WENT UP IS WE STARTED TO HAVE B BOATS PULL IN, WITHOUT ANY TYPE OF TELEPHONE, WAITING FOR US TO FUEL THEM BECAUSE THEY THINK THE FUELING IS COMPLETE. WE HAVE BEEN HANDLING THOSE BOATS BUT WE FIND THAT THE ACTUAL CONSTRUCTION ON THE BUILDING THERE ISN'T DONE, THERE IS ELECTRIC CABLES, THERE ARE PEOPLE WORKING ON THAT LITTLE BUILDING ON THE DOCK. 
          DIDN'T THINK IT MADE SENSE TO HAVE PEOPLE WALKING THROUGH THAT. WE ALSO HAVE THE FACT THAT ALTHOUGH THERE IS NO FUEL CURRENTLY AVAILABLE AT THE MARINA, WE DON'T KNOW WHEN THERE WILL BE FUEL AND IT'S A MISLEADING TO THE BOATING PUBLIC TO SEE THE DOCK OPEN WITH THE FUEL ON IT. THE BOATS THAT SEE THE SIGN HAVE ALREADY STARTED CALLING US TO ASK US WHAT WAS GOING ON AND WE WERE ABLE TO CORRECT IT AS I MEAN TALK WITH THEM AS THEY CAME IN. AS THE E-MAIL AND I'M SORRY IT DIDN'T GET TO YOU YET CITY MANAGER. 
          IF THE WORDING NEEDS TO CHANGE OR IF THE SIGNS NEED TO COME DOWN WE'LL BE GLAD TO. BUT ALSO KEEP IN MIND AT THIS POINT IN TIME RIGHT NOW WE HAVE SUFFICIENT ROOM DOWN AT THE SOUTH END OF THE DOCK TO PUT THE BOATS AND WHENEVER THE ENTIRE PROJECT COMPLETE IT'S ALL READY TO GO, WE DON'T HAVE TO LET BOATS COME IN NOW YOU GOT TO MOVE BECAUSE THE ELECTRICIANS ARE HERE, NOW YOU GOT TO MOVE BECAUSE WE'VE GOT THE FUEL PEOPLE COMING BACK. IT WAS A DECISION THAT WAS MADE TO TRY TO KEEP THE PUBLIC AWARE OF WHAT WAS GOING ON AND TO ENCOURAGE THEM TO CALL US BY PHONE OR BY RADIO SO THAT WE COULD GIVE THEM SPECIFIC DIRECTIONS. 
          IF TOMORROW NIGHT WE NEEDED IT WOULD WE USE IT, ABSOLUTELY, WE WOULD HAVE BOATS TIED UP THERE RIGHT AWAY. 
          >> THANK YOU. >> YOU'RE WELCOME SIR. 
          >> SECOND ISSUE, FUEL LINES. THE FUEL LINE THAT'S DOWN THERE GOES FROM TANKS THE OTHER SIDE ON THE EAST SIDE OF PARKING LOT A AND THEY GO UNDERGROUND AND THEY GO TO THE BULKHEAD AND THEN THEY GO OUT TO THE FUEL DISPENSERS, OKAY? AND THAT'S A DOUBLE LINE, IN OTHER WORDS, THERE'S AN INNER LINE AND THAT'S WHERE THE FUEL'S CONTAINED IN AND THEN THERE IS AN OUTER LINE AROUND THAT, THAT IF THERE'S A LEAK IN THE INNER LINE, IT CATCHES THAT, SO THERE'S NO SPILL. 
          OKAY? WHEN THEY PUT THAT IN THEY ONLY DID, THIS IS THE SINS OF OUR PAST, WE HAD NO CONTROL, IT WAS YEARS AGO, TEN YEARS AGO, WHENEVER IT WAS PUT IN, THEY DIDN'T SEPARATE THE LINES, IN OTHER WORDS IT'S ONE LONG RUN, THERE'S NO VALVES IN BETWEEN, SO IT'S JUST ONE LONG RUN. 
          AND WHY IS THAT IMPORTANT? BACK IN 2017 THEY PRESSURE TEST THEY'D LINE AND THEY FOUND IT TO BE HOLDING AND WAS FINE. 
          SUBSEQUENT TO THAT, IT WAS TESTED LAST WEEK AND IT WAS FOUND TO BE A LEAK IN THE LINE. SO THERE WAS A TINY DRIP DRIP DRIP FROM THE OUTER LINE WHICH MEANS THAT THE -- SOMEWHERE IN THAT INNER LINE THERE'S A LEAK. AND AS I POINTED OUT THERE IS NO WAY TO SEPARATE THOSE LINES AND PRESSURE TEST EACH SECTION TO FIND OUT WHERE THE PROBLEM IS THE WAY IT'S CURRENTLY BUILT. 
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SO WHAT CAUSED THE LEAK? NO WAY TO KNOW. 
          THERE WERE SAGGING LINES THERE FOR A LONG TIME, LAST COUPLE OF YEARS THEY WERE SAGGING INTO THE WATER, WHATEVER, WHETHER THAT CAUSED IT OR NOT WHO KNOWS, WHETHER IT WAS THE LACK OF MAINTENANCE OR NOT WEE DON'T KNOW WHY BUT WE DO KNOW THERE IS A LEAK. SO AND TO DETERMINE WHERE THAT LEAK IS, IT ON THE PARKING LOT SIDE AND UNDERGROUND OR ON THE WATER SIDE AND OUTSIDE? YOU HAVE TO CUT THE LINE AND PUT A VALVE IN. AND WHY IS THAT IMPORTANT AT THIS POINT? IT'S POSHTS AT THIS POINT BECAUSE BEFORE WE CAN GO FORWARD WE NEED TO KNOW IF THE LEAK IS UNDERGROUND. BECAUSE THAT'S REALLY EXPENSIVE. 
          OR IT'S FROM THE BULKHEAD TO THE FUEL TANKS, THE FUEL DISPENSERS, SO THAT'S THE FIRST THING. IF THE LEAK IS FROM THE BULKHEAD GOING FORWARD THE ESTIMATE TO REPLACE THAT LINE IS ABOUT $220,000. IF THE LEAK IS UNDERGROUND THEN IT'S MUCH MORE EXPENSIVE. HOW MUCH MORE EXPENSIVE IS UNCLEAR AT THIS POINT. SO WHO I WOULD PROPOSE OR ASK, CONSENSUS OF THE CITY MANAGER, NUMBER ONE GO FIND OUT HAVE -- HIRE SOMEBODY TO -- MARINE UTILITY THAT'S WORKING THERE NOW DOING THE WORK, CUT THE LINE PUT IN A VALVE AND PRESSURE TEST IT TO FIND OUT WHERE IT IS. NUMBER 2, WE NEED TO GO OUT AND DO IDENTITY SOLE SOURCING OR BY BIDS TO REPLACE THAT LINE. 
          RIGHT NOW WE'RE DEAD IN THE WATER. 
          THERE'S NO FUEL. MOST, TWO OF THE COMPANIES HAVE SAID THEY WON'T EVEN BE ABLE TO GET TO THIS UNTIL THE END OF OCTOBER. SO -- AND IF WE GO TO A BID PROCESS IT'S GOING TO TAKE LONGER. 
          IF WE COULD COME TO A CONSENSUS AS TO HAVE THE CITY MANAGER HAVE MARINE UTILITY CUT THE LINE AND PRESSURE TEST IT AND FIND OUT HOW BIG THE PROBLEM IS, OR WHERE THE PROBLEM IS, AND THEN COME UP WITH A SOLUTION HOW TO GO FORWARD AND GET THIS FIXED. 
          >> VICE MAYOR KREGER. >> OH, I WAS GOING TO TALK ABOUT SOMETHING DIFFERENT. BUT ON THIS ISSUE, WHO IS MANAGING IT RIGHT NOW? WHO IS THE PROJECT MANAGER RIGHT 
          NOW ON THIS? >> MS. KATHY CHAPMAN HAS TAKEN OVER AFTER THE DEPARTURE OF BRONSON LAMB. 
          MS. CHAP MANHAS BEEN WORKING WITH MARINE UTILITIES TO 
          DETERMINE WHERE IS THE LEAK. >> HAVE THEY MADE A 
          RECOMMENDATION? >> SHE'S ACTUALLY SOLICITING SOME QUOTES, THAT IS WHERE COMMISSIONER ROSS HAS GOTTEN 
          SOME OF HIS NUMBERS FROM. >> WHO IS THE ENGINEER WHO HAS 
          DESIGNED ALL THIS? >> I THINK THIS GOES BACK TO EIGHT -- I WOULD HAVE TO GO BACK TO ATM ONLY BECAUSE I THINK AS COMMISSIONER ROSS INDICATED THIS GOES BACK, THIS IS PREEXISTING FOR THE HURRICANE. THIS IS BACK WHEN THE MARINA WAS 
          BUILT. >> WELL, IT JUST SEEMS THAT THIS IS KIND OF REALLY AT THIS POINT IN TIME WHEN WE'VE HAD ALL THIS PROJECT MANAGEMENT AND ALL THESE THINGS THAT HAPPENED, THAT THIS IS WHAT WAS GOING TO STOP US FROM FUELING? I DON'T DISAGREE WE HAVE TO DO WHAT WE HAVE TO DO. 
          WE'VE MADE A LOT OF CHANGE ORDERS WITH MARINE, THESE GUYS, STUFF LIKE THAT. I WANT TO MAKE SURE -- I WOULD WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT, AGAIN, WHEN YOU START SOLE-SOURCING, I KNOW THIS IS A LIMITED THING WE DO, WE DO DUE DILIGENCE ON THIS 
          BUT WE HAVE TO MOVE FORWARD. >> AS WAS INDICATED BY COMMISSIONER ROSS, WHEN THE LINES WERE TESTED IN 2017 THERE WAS NO ISSUE. NOW AS WE WERE GETTING READY TO GO LIVE AND THEY WERE RETESTED THAT'S WHEN THE PROBLEM WAS 
          DETERMINED. >> WE CONDUCTED TESTING, THE 
          COMPANY CALLED MARINE UTILITIES? >> NO I BELIEVE THEY HAD A DIFFERENT COMPANY COME BACK AND DO THE TESTING. 
          >> YOU GOOD? >> NO NO, I HAD ANOTHER THING. 
          THIS IS JUST -- >> I'M GOING TO COME BACK TO YOU. ALL RIGHT, COMMISSIONER 
          LEDNOVICH AHEAD OF YOU TOO. >> I WANTED TO MAKE A BRIEF COMMENTS, I DON'T KNOW IF THIS IS THE RIGHT TIME ON THE MARINE 
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DEPTH AND WITH THE WAY THE BUDGET HAS HAPPENED AND THE STANTECH PROPOSAL, THE MARINE DEBT IS PRETTY LARGE, ARE WE LOOKING TO REFINANCE THAT? WHAT ARE WE GOING TO DO? 
          >> THE INTENT IS WE'LL REFINANCE IT INTERNALLY THROUGH THE USE OF THE UTILITY FUNDS. RIGHT NOW THERE IS A -- 
          >> INTERFUND LOAN? >> CORRECT, REFINANCED, REPACKAGED, SO THAT IS ALL ONE LUMP SUM THAT'S BEING PAID BACK. 
          >> THEN IF THAT IS THE PLAN THAT'S CONSISTENT WITH WHAT THE 
          THE AUDITOR SAID ABOUT -- >> CORRECT. 
          >> OKAY. AND WE DO THAT AFTER THE FEMA 
          ISSUE IS JUST RESOLVED? >> NO. 
          THAT WILL ACTUALLY PART OF THE BUDGET GOING FORWARD. 
          WE HAVE TO ADDRESS THAT NO MATTER WHAT BUT IT HAS TO COME BACK TO YOU TO APPROVE THAT PLAN SO IT WILL ALL 
          FOR YOU. >> I'M DONE. 
          >> COMMISSIONER LEDNOVICH YOU'RE RECOGNIZED SIR. 
          >> I HAVE TWO THINGS BUT I WOULD LIKE TO TALK ABOUT THIS FUEL LINE. SO IT SEEMS THE FIRST STEP IS DETERMINING HOW BIG THE PROBLEM IS. 
          >> WHERE THE PROBLEM IS, YES. >> AND WHERE IT IS AND HOW BIG IS IT. IS IT SOMETHING YOU CAN PATCH? IS IT SOMETHING -- YOU'RE SHAKING YOUR HEAD AND YOU DON'T EVEN KNOW WHERE IT IS. CORRECT? 
          >> LET'S GO AHEAD. >> OKAY. 
          >> SO YOU DON'T EVEN KNOW WHERE THE LEAK IS. 
          CAN YOU SPLICE? I DON'T KNOW. 
          ALL I'M SAYING IS, WHERE IS IT? WHAT ARE THE ALTERNATIVES? WE DON'T KNOW EITHER ONE OF THOSE THINGS. 
          SO THAT'S STEP 1. BEFORE WE CAN DETERMINE SPENDING MONEY. SO THAT'S MY POINT ON IT. 
          ON THE FUEL LINES. ON THE SECOND THING I WANTED TO TALK ABOUT IS FEMA. AND I GOT A -- I SHARED AN E-MAIL WITH YOU FROM BRYN BRIAN AND SHE'S SITTING RIGHT HERE AND IT WAS A PRETTY DETAILED E-MAIL ABOUT FEMA AND THE WHOLE PROCESS. AND IF YOU COULD WALK US THROUGH THE REPAIR AND REPLACEMENT, THE DIFFERENCES BETWEEN THOSE TWO THINGS, WHERE WE STAND WITH FEMA, ON REPAIR AND REPLACEMENT, BECAUSE THE CONCERN IS WE SHOULD HAVE REPLACED WHEN WE REPAIRED. 
          >> I THINK YOU HAVE THAT -- >> BACKWARDS, I'M SORRY. 
          >> SO TO REITERATE. WHEN FOLLOWING THE HURRICANE MATTHEW, FEMA SEENT CONTRACTOR. SENT A CONTRACTOR TO DO A DAMAGE ASSESSMENT. FIRST, THE CITY DID OUR OWN DAMAGE ASSESSMENT AND THAT WAS CONDUCTED THROUGH ATM THAT'S BEEN PROVIDED TO ALL OF YOU, IT'S BEEN PROVIDED TO THE COMMUNITY AND ATM'S ASSESSMENT WAS ALL OF THE AMENITIES AND FEATURES OF THE ATTENUATOR WERE DAMAGED BEYOND REPAIR AND THEY RECOMMENDED THAT THEY BE REPLACED. 
          THAT WAS IN FEBRUARY OF 2017. IN.MARCH OF 2017, FEMA SE SENT A SUBCONTRACTOR TO CONDUCT THEIR DAMAGE ASSESSMENT. 
          AND IN THE COURSE OF HIS REVIEW, HE REQUESTED APPARENTLY REQUESTED A REPAIR ESTIMATE FROM BELBELLINGHAM MARINA. 
          THAT DOCUMENT WAS NEVER REQUESTED TO THE CITY. 
          SINCE THE CITY NEVER HAD IT, IT WAS NEVER PROVIDED TO FEMA. 
          APPARENTLY IT WAS THROUGH THE FEMA SUBCONTRACTOR. 
          BUT EVEN WITH THAT REPAIR ESTIMATE, THAT FEMA OFFICIAL RECOMMENDED WHAT IS REFERRED TO AS THE FEMA 9091, RECOMMENDED REPLACEMENT, NOT REPAIR. AND HIS ESTIMATE WAS APPROXIMATELY $6.5 MILLION FOR BOTH THE NORTH AND THE SOUTH ATEN WATER. ATTENUATE. 
          HE PREPARED THE FORM BUT A SEPARATE INDEPENDENT ANOTHER FEMA OFFICIAL SIGNED OFF ON THAT FORM. 
          SO WE NOW HAVE THREE INDIVIDUALS, OR THREE ASSESSMENTS, THAT THE DOCKS NEED TO BE REPLACED, NOT PRIERD. 
          >> THE ATTENUATOR. >> THE ATTENUATOR TO CLARIFY THE DIFFERENCE. YOU HAVE ATM, THE FIRST FEMA SUBCONTRACTOR, AND THEN THE FEMA CONTRACTOR WHO SIGNED THE FORM 9091. WHAT THE FORM 9091 INDICATES IS THAT MAKES THE REPAIR ELIGIBLE -- OR THE REPLACEMENT ELIGIBLE FOR 75% REIMBURSEMENT AND REIMBURSEMENT IS THE KEY. 
          BECAUSE THERE ARE PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY THAT THINK THAT'S GUARANTEED MONEY. THAT DEMONSTRATES A LACK OF 
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UNDERSTANDING OF HOW FEMA OPERATES. 
          FEMA OPERATES ON A REIMBURSEMENT. 
          ALL THAT $6.5 MILLION, THAT WAS AN ESTIMATE BASED UPON CURRENT MARKET RATES AND THINGS LIKE THAT. 
          IF THE CITY FOLLOWED ITS PROCUREMENT POLICIES, IF THAT FEMA, IF THAT ATTENUATOR PROJECT COST THE CITY $15 MILLION WE WOULD GET REIMBURSED 75% OF THE $15 MILLION. 
          IF IT ONLY COST $200,000 WE WOULD GET REIMBURSED 75% OF THAT. BUT FEMA SIGNED DOCUMENT INDICATING THAT THAT PROJECT QUALIFIED FOR 75% REIMBURSEMENT FOR THE REPLACEMENT OF THE ATTENUATOR. 
          THAT DOCUMENT WAS SIGNED IN OCTOBER OF 2017. 
          >> THANK YOU. AND TO REITERATE -- 
          >> WE CAN -- >> HE'S NOT DONE. 
          >> THEN -- >> MORE TO THE STORY. 
          >> THERE'S MORE TO THE STORY. >> OKAY GO AHEAD. 
          >> THEN THAT WAS PART OF THE PROCESS THAT THE CORPS BECAUSE WHILE WE'RE TALKING FEMA WE'RE ALSO TALKING IF YOU REMEMBER THE WHOLE PERMITTING ISSUE WITH THE CORPS. 
          SO WE HAD AN ONSITE MEETING IN AUGUST OF 2017, WHERE THE CORPS OF AND FEMA DECIDED THEY WERE GOING TO BREAK THE PROJECT INTO TWO PARTS. THE SOUTHERN ATTENUATOR AND THE NORTHERN ATTENUATOR. AND THAT WAS MORE DRIVEN BY THE CORPS BECAUSE THE CORPS SAID YOU GOT TO GET THE PERMIT FOR THE SOUTH AND THEN WE'LL GET TO THE NORTH. 
          AND THAT WAS BECAUSE OF THE PROXIMITY OF THE CHANNEL. 
          SO ONCE IT WAS BROKEN INTO TWO PARTS FEMA THEN SENT ANOTHER CONTRACTOR AND HER ESTIMATE WAS IT WAS APPROXIMATELY $6.3 MILLION JUST FOR THE SOUTHERN ATTENUATOR. 
          SO NOW YOU HAVE A FOURTH PROFESSIONAL EXPERT SAYING THAT THE ATTENUATORS NEED TO BE REPLACED, NOT REPAIRED. 
          SO FOLLOWING THAT THE CITY EVENTUALLY GOT THE PERMITS FROM THE CORPS AND WE PROCEEDED BASED UPON THOSE FOUR PROFESSIONAL EXPERTS RECOMMENDING THAT THE ATTENUATOR BE REPLACED. 
          SO WE AWARDED THE CONTRACT. THE PROCESS STARTED. 
          AND IT WAS NOT UNTIL, AND KEY TERM IS OBLIGATED, BECAUSE WHAT HAPPENS IS, FEMA OBLIGATES THE MONEY WHICH SAYS OKAY WE'RE READY TO GO WITH THIS PROJECT. WE MOVED FORWARD BEFORE WE WERE OBLIGATED BECAUSE WE HAD FOUR RECOMMENDATIONS THAT THAT'S HOW FEMA DEFINED THE SCOPE OF WORK. ALL OF THOSE DOCUMENTS TO FIND SCOPE OF WORK, TO BE REPLACE THE RA TEN WAITER. 
          FEMA DID NOT ACTUALLY OBLIGATE THE PROJECT UNTIL MAY OF THIS YEAR. SO IF WE WAITED UNTIL THE PROJECTS WAS OBLIGATED WE WOULD NOW JUST BE OPENING BIDS TO 
          REBUILD THE MARINA. >> RIGHT. 
          THANK YOU SIR. THANK YOU FOR WALKING ME THROUGH THAT. ROSS. 
          >> I TALKED TO BROFNSON LAMB ABOUT THIS AND THAT IS WHAT HE RECOMMENDS, TALK WITH MARINE UTILITY AND WHOEVER ELSE, AND COME UP WITH OPTIONS BEFORE THE NEXT MEETING. 
          >> THIS IS THE FIRST THING I'VE HEARD ABOUT THIS, WHICH IS A LIMB TROUBLING. WAS THERE AN E-MAIL THAT WENT 
          OUT ABOUT THIS OR SOMETHING? >> THIS JUST CAME TO BEING IN 
          THE LAST FEW DAYS. >> I AM OUT THERE EVERY MORNING 
          ON MY BICYCLE. >> I SEE YOU OUTSIDE THE DOOR. 
          I'M INSIDE. HAS AT  THE EPA WAITED? 
          >> NO, SIR NECESSARILY EPA BUT DEP. 
          MS. CHAP MANHAS BEEN OUTSIDE, THEY HAVE INSPECTED, THE LEAK HAS BEEN CONTAINED SO ALL THE EMERGENCY RESPONSES HAVE BEEN 
          ADDRESSED. >> THERE IS FUEL IN THAT SYSTEM 
          RIGHT NOW? >> YEAH, THERE'S SOME THAT WAS IN THERE FOR PRESSURE TESTING PURPOSES ONLY. 
          >> SO THE LEAK'S BEEN CONTAINED. IF THEY DON'T KNOW WHERE IT IS 
          HOW DID THEY CONTAIN IT? >> BECAUSE THE MINIMAL AMOUNT OF FUEL THAT'S IN THERE, IT'S NOT LEAKING BECAUSE IT'S NOT UNDER 
          PRESSURE ANYMORE. >> BUT WHEN THEY DO THE PRESSURE TEST THAT SHOWS A LEAK SOMEWHERE, THAT SHOWS THE LEAK IS NOT THERE, I JUST DON'T UNDERSTAND -- 
          >> THAT'S THE ONE WE DON'T KNOW WHERE IT IS. 
          WE KNOW WHERE THE OUTER LEAK IS. >> WHAT WAS THEIR RECOMMENDATION 
          WHEN THEY FOUND THE LEAK? >> WELL, THE FIRST ISSUE WAS TO CONTAIN THE LEAK, WHICH WAS REPORTED, I BELIEVE JOE AND OTHER BOATERS REPORTED THE SHEEN ON THE WATER SO THAT WAS IMMEDIATELY CONTAINED AND SO NOW THE QUESTION IS ALL RIGHT HOW DO 
          WE GO FORWARD WITH THAT. >> A LEAK UNDERGROUND WOULD END 
          UP IN THE WATER AS WELL? >> YES, BECAUSE THE LEAK, THERE 
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IS A HOLE WAY OUT HERE, OKAY THEY KNOW WHERE THAT HOLE IS, THAT IS OVER THE WATER. BUT THE LEAK ON THE INNER PIPE COULD BE ANYWHERE BACK TO WHERE THAT TANK. 
          BECAUSE FUEL FLOWS DOWNHILL. >> THE LEAK IN THE OUTER HAS BEEN CONTAINED. IT IS THE LEAK IN THE INNER THAT WE'RE NOT SURE WHERE THAT IS YET. 
          >> DID THEY THINK IT WAS GOOD TO CUT THE LINE? VALVES TONED LEAK MORE THAN LINES DO. 
          >> IT IS ONE CONTINUOUS LEAK BECAUSE IT IS CHEAPER TO DO THAT WAY. IT MAKES SENSE TO CUT THE LINE 
          AND CHECK AND SEE. >> THAT'S WHERE I WOULD LIKE TO DEFER TO THE PEOPLE THAT DO MORE AND IF THAT IS WHAT THEIR RECOMMENDATION IS, AT LEAST I CAN BRING THAT RECOMMENDATION 
          BACK TO YOU. >> I DON'T KNOW WHO CAME UP FIRST, I BELIEVE IT'S COMMISSIONER CHAPMAN. 
          >> I JUST HAVE AN ISSUE WITH ISSUES THAT KEEP COMING UP BUT CONSENSUS, CONSENSUS, CONSENSUS, IF AFTERNOO AN ITEM IS SO IMPORT EITHER TURN IT OVER TO THE CITY MANAGER AND LET HIM DELEGATE THE APPROPRIATE STAFF PERSON TO DEAL WITH IT AND COME BACK DO US. 
          BUT I FEEL LIKE BY CONSENSUS WE ARE TRYING TO CONTROL EVERY LITTLE BIT OF WHAT HAPPENS IN THE CITY. 
          AND I JUST -- I MEAN IF AN ISSUE IS IMPORTANT RATHER THAN DISCUSSING IT WITH CONSENSUS, WRITE AN ORDINANCE, PUT IT BEFORE A VOTE. BUT I JUST THINK OVER THE LAST SEVERAL MONTHS WE'VE HAD TOO MUCH CONSENSUS, CONSENSUS, CONSENSUS. I THINK WE HAVE TO LET PROFESSIONAL STAFF, LIKE THIS ISSUE, IF ANYTHING, MR. MOTT SHOULD BE COMING BACK TO US AND SAY, THIS IS WHAT KATHY CHAPMAN RECOMMENDS TO DO, SHE'S IN CHARGE OF THE PROJECT. 
          NOT US TELLING DALE TO TELL KATHY WHAT TO DO. 
          I THINK IT'S BACKWARDS. >> ITS POINT OOF ORDER. 
          I GET CONCERNED WHEN IT SAYS COMING TO CONSENSUS. 
          IT'S LIKE COMING THE DECISION. WHEN WE ADDED THESE THINGS TO THE AGENDA, WE MADE IT CLEAR THE ONLY REASON WE ARE DOING THERE IS TO SOMEWHERE AN OPEN DISCUSSION BECAUSE OF SUNSHINE. 
          A CONSENSUS IS GETTING AWFULLY CLOSE TO OUR DECISION. 
          >> IT IS A DECISION. >> I HEAR EXACTLY WHERE YOU'RE COMING FROM. MR. KREGER, YOU'RE NEXT SIR. 
          >> YES, THIS REALLY IT SHOULD BE A NO BRAINER. 
          IF THAT PROBLEM EXISTS, IT SHOULD GO UP TO THE CITY MANAGER WHO SHOULD COME BACK TO US WITH A RECOMMENDATION. 
          WE HAVE GOOD PROCEDURES, IF IT'S AN EMERGENCY OR A CHANGE ORDER, IT SHOULD GO GOOD THROUGH CITY MANAGER AND COME BACK TO US. 
          I THINK WE HAVE TO MOVE ON IT BUT AGAIN IT SHOULD COME THROUGH 
          THE CITY. >> I AGREE WITH YOU SIR, A LEAKING FUEL LINE IS SOMETHING THAT SHOULD BE ADDRESSED. 
          BEFORE THE MEETING AS WELL. YOU'RE NEXT MR. LEDNOVICH. 
          >> I TURNED MINE OFF. >> MR. MAYOR. 
          >> YES, SIR, YES, MA'AM. >> SO TO FIX THIS PROBLEM ONE OF THE ISSUES AND IT'S COME UP A COUPLE OF TIMES YOU'VE SEEN SOME CHANGE ORDERS FOR OMARINE UTILITIES. 
          THAT IS ALREADY MOBILIZED AND ALL THAT. 
          SO OTHE ESTIMATE ROUGHLY IS A BIG ONE. 
          IT'S $200,000 RIGHT TO FIX THIS. SO THE -- AND IT IS, WE'RE ABLE 
          TO DO IT -- >> WE HAVEN'T PRESSURE CHECKED 
          IT YET THOUGH. >> EXCUSE ME? 
          >> PUTTING THE VALVE IN. >> I UNDERSTAND. 
          BUT FOR INFORMATION PURPOSES SOMETHING THAT WAS DISCUSSED THIS MORNING WITH THE CITY MANAGER AND I DISCUSSED WAS THAT THIS IS EITHER FOR PROCUREMENT PURPOSES, SO THAT IF HE DOES PUT THAT RESOLUTION ON, WE'RE NOT WASTING, IT TAKES ABOUT 30 DAYS TO PREP FOR THESE MEETINGS. SO ONCE YOU GET BACK THE INFORMATION ABOUT THE PRESSURE TEST YOU HAVE MARINE UTILITIES, THAT IS ALREADY HERE, EVEN THOUGH IT'S AN ESTIMATED $200,000, IT COULD BE A SOLE SOURCE, IT COULD BE UNDER EMERGENCY PROCUREMENT, WHERE THERE IS NOT GOING TO BE A BID PROCESS. I'M SAYING THAT, BEFORE WE GET FLAK FOR THAT OR THAT WE DIDN'T FOLLOW THE PURCHASING POLICY, 
          THAT'S. >> PURCHASING POLICY ALLOWS OR IT JUST GOES THROUGH THE PROCESS THE RIGHT WAY. 
          >> THAT'S EXACTLY WHY I'M BRINGING IT UP. 
          THAT'S GOING TO PUT YOU BACK ABOUT 60 DAYS. 
          MARINE UTILITIES, THE AMOUNT OF MONEY IT'S GOING DO COST WILL LIKELY BE A LITTLE BIT MORE, BECAUSE YOU'RE PAYING FOR MOBILIZATION. IF MARINE UTILITIES IS THE ONE THAT DOES NOT GET THE BID. I'M SAYING LEGALLY, THAT'S WHY I'M STANDING UP HERE, YOU CAN GO THROUGH YOUR EXEMPTIONS OR CAN 
          YOU GO THROUGH THE BID PROCESS. >> OKAY. 
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THIS ITEM WAS COMMISSIONER ROSS'S. 
          MR. ROSS ARE YOU COMPLETE WITH THIS ITEM SIR? 
          [5.5 OCEAN HIGHWAY AND PORT AUTHORITY (OHPA) ]
          >> I'M DONE. >> ITEM 5.5, OCEAN HIGHWAY AND PORT AUTHORITY. MR. ROSS? 
          >> NOTHING TO REPORT. >> I CAN JUST REPORT WE ARE PROCEEDING THE COMPLAINT IN COURT REGARDING THE PILOT 
          PAYMENT. >> NO CHANGES? 
          >> NO CHANGES. >> YOU GOOD SIR? 
          [5.6 COVID-19]
ITEM 5.6. COVID-19, COMMISSIONER 
          LEDNOVICH. >> THANK YOU. 
          SO I HAVE USUALLY I READ THE RESULTS BUT I'M GOING TO -- I WAS LOOKING AT THE GRAPHS TODAY, AND THE GRAPHS ARE PRETTY POWERFUL. SO THIS IS THE FIRST TWO WEEKS IN AUGUST. SO YOU CAN SEE THE HIGH WAS 23 CASES ON THE 5TH. GENERALLY RUNNING ABOUT 15 TO 15 NEW CASES IN THE COUNTY PER DAY. SECOND SLIDE, PLEASE. 
          >> I THINK IT'S YOUR BAD? >> YES, IT'S MY BAD. 
          MY BAD IS SHUT OFF. >> IN THE NAVY WE CALL IT E-N -- RIGHT NOW. E-N-D 
          RIGHT NOW. >> YOU CAN SEE THE DRAMATIC DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE FIRST HALF AND THE SECOND HALF WHERE THESE NUMBERS HAVE DOUBLED. AND WHAT THIS IS TELLING US IS WE ARE NOWHERE NEAR OUT OF THE WOODS. 
          IN FACT WE ARE INCREASING. AND WE'VE HAD TWO NURSING HOME OUTBREAKS, ONE IN HILLIARD, ONE IN THE CITY. 
          SO WE HAVE THE EMERGENCY ORDER TO CONSIDER TONIGHT, IS THAT 
          RIGHT? >> YES, SIR. 
          >> DHAS ONE OF THE REASONS I'M SHOWING THIS. 
          THE OTHER IS, WE NEED TO CONSIDER, WE HAVE LABOR DAY WEEKEND COMING UP. AND WE HAVE GONE ROUND AND ROUND ABOUT MANDATORY FACEMASKS, ENFORCEMENT, AND WE SAW IF YOU REMEMBER THE JULY NUMBERS, TWO WEEKS AFTER JULY 4TH, WE EXPERIENCED A WEEK OF SPIKES IN CASES. 
          AND I GUARANTEE YOU, THAT IS GOING TO HAPPEN AFTER LABOR DAY. 
          MY POINT IS ABOUT MASKS, WHAT ARE WE GOING TO DO ABOUT THE DOWNTOWN AREA, MAKING PEOPLE AWARE WE HAVE A MANDATOY MASK ORDINANCE. MY SECOND QUESTION IS ABOUT THE SPORTS LEAGUES. WE HAVE THAT DISCUSSION AT OUR LAST MEETING. WE SAID THEY WOULD COME TO US WITH THEIR PROPOSAL ABOUT HOW THEIR SPORT WOULD OPERATE. 
          HAVE WE HAD ANY LEAGUES COME TO US? 
          >> THE AMELIA ISLAND YOUTH SOCCER SUBMITED A PRELIMINARY PLAN SUBMITTED TO THE PARKS AND REC DEPARTMENT. 
          PARKS AND REC DEPARTMENT IS REVIEWING THAT PLAN, IN LIGHT OF WHAT MS. BACH DEVELOPED FOR THE PARTICIPANTS. 
          PARK AND RECOGNIZE IS REVIEW, IT WILL BE AT THEIR AUTHORITY IF THAT PLAN IS SATISFIED WHETHER THEY ALLOW THE REOPENING OF 
          THOSE FIELDS OR NOT. >> CAN YOU SEND THAT PROPOSED 
          PLAN TO ALL OF US? >> OF COURSE, RIGHT. 
          >> AND THIN I DON'T KNOW IF EVERYONE KNOWS THIS BUT THE MOVIE THEATERS ARE REOPENED TODAY. 
          IMAGINE GOING TO A MOVIE THEATER, AND HOW ARE WE GOING TO ENFORCE THAT? SO I JUST RAISE THOSE QUESTIONS. 
          AND THE TDC AND OUR CONVERSATION TODAY, HAS ALSO BLANKETED AND WE HAVE TWO TZC M TDC MEMBERS THATE SITTING HERE. 
          HOW MANY E-MAILS, 86,000 -- 83,000 MARKETING E-MAILS COME TO AMELIA ISLAND, SO LABOR DAY WEEKEND WILL INDEED BE PACKED. 
          THAT'S ALL I HAVE. >> ALL THE MOVIE THEATERS, I THINK JUST FOR THE PUBLIC, IF THEY ARE GOING TO SEE THIS. 
          I'M NOT SURE IF I'M POSITIVE OF THIS BUT ONCE YOU ARE SEATED WHATEVER ACTIVITY YOU ARE DOING REQUIRES THAT YOU NOT -- THAT YOU HAVE ACCESS TO YOUR MOUTH LIKE BARS, RESTAURANTS, ONCE YOU'RE AT A TABLE YOU SIT DOWN. AND IF THEY'RE DOING CONCESSIONS THEY MAY BE ABLE TO DO IT. IF THEY'RE NOT EATING OR DRINKING I THINK TECHNICALLY THEY SHOULD BE ON. 
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BUT IF THEY ARE HAVING CONCESSIONS I THINK THEY'RE OKAY TO TAKE THEM OFF BY THE REGULATIONS. 
          >> CAN I CONTINUE? >> PLEASE DO. 
          >> I DID GO TO THE B AND B THEATER WEBSITE. 
          AND THEY ARE CONSUMER FRIENDLY, BECAUSE SAFETY IS A CONCERN. 
          AND THINK ARE FOLLOWING CDC THEC GUIDELINES. 
          THEIR WEBSITE SAYS YOU HAVE A MASK. 
          I ASSUME IF YOU GET POPCORN YOU'RE NOT GOING TO BE GOING LIKE THIS, THAT YOU ARE GOING TO TAKE THE MASK OFF. 
          BUT MY LARGER CONCERN IS, ONE THEY DIDN'T SPECIFY HOW LARGE GROUPS COULD BE. YOU COULD ATTEND A MOVIE IN A GROUP. WE ALL KNOW CDC SAYS NO LARGER GATHERING THAN 10. AND THEN YOU'RE SITTING THERE FOR TWO AND A HALF HOURS, WHO'S CHECKING MASKS? 
          >> VICE MAYOR KREGER. >> YES, I WAS GOING TO COMMENT THAT YOU KNOW, I WAS-THERE ARE 1728 CASES AND 20 DEATHS AND 115 HOSPITALIZATIONS. SO OUR POSITIVITY, WHICH I'VE COME TO CONCLUSION REALLY MEANS NOTHING IN TERMS OF TESTING, POSITIVE 8%, JUMPING UP TO 10. I BELIEVE THAT WAS THE DAY THAT THERE NURSING HOME GOT TO 47 CASES. 
          SCHOOL'S BACK IN SESSION AND TAMMY, CAN YOU TELL US? 
          >> MY CHILDREN GO TO ELEMENTARY SCHOOL SO THAT SCHOOL HAD TO DISMISS A COUPLE OF CLASSES TO QUARANTINE BECAUSE OF A POSITIVE CASE. BUT I WANTED TO SAY HOW THEY'RE HANDLING IT. BECAUSE AS A PARENT IF WE GET, IF OUR CHILD EITHER THE DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH OR SCHOOL DISTRICT, BOTH ARE DOING CONTACT TRACING, WILL CALL A PARENT WHOSING CHILD MAY BE IN CONTACT WITH SOMEBODY AND GIVE US WHAT THE INSTRUCTIONS ARE. SO THEY'RE NOT CLOSING THE SCHOOLS DOWN AT LEAST YET WHEN THEY HAVE A POSITIVE CASE BUT THEY'RE TRYING TO DO CONTACT TRACING DOING THAT. 
          BUT I JUST WANTED TO COMMENT JUST AS A PARENT WITH MY KIDS IN SCHOOL I MEAN FIRST OF ALL I'M RISKING PEOPLE BECAUSE MY KIDS ARE IN SCHOOL. AND THEN THEY COME HOME TO US AT NIGHT. AND SO DON'T JUST ASSUME THAT IT'S GOING TO BE LABOR DAY. IT'S GOING TO BE THE SCHOOLS THAT ARE GOING TO -- THOSE OF US THAT HAVE OUR KIDS IN SCHOOL. 
          >> AND ONE INTERESTING TDC NUMBER IS THAT IN JULY, THE OCCUPANCY RATE WAS DOWN JUST 19%. 
          THAT'S, YOU KNOW SOUNDS LIKE A LOT BUT WE'RE BACK IN BUSINESS HERE. TO YOUR POINTS. 
          AND HOPEFULLY WE'LL SEE WHAT HAPPENS. 
          AND THE FIELDS, ONCE PARK AND REC SAYS IT'S SAFE, ACCEPTABLE TO WHAT WE LOOKED AT THEN THEY WILL AUTHORIZE THAT USE? 
          >> CORRECT. >> COMMISSIONER ROSS. 
          >> ENFORCEMENT. YOU PAY KNOW I'VE WORKED IN EMERGENCY ROOMS FOR A LONG TIME. AND BACK IN THE DAY WHEN THERE WERE NO, WHEN SEAT BELTS FIRST CAME IN THERE WAS A HUGE ARGUMENT THAT MANY PEOPLE DIDN'T WANT TO WEAR THEIR SEAT BELT. 
          AND OVER THE YEARS FOR WHATEVER RENAL THROUGH EDUCATION BUT IT TOOK A WHILE I CAN TELL YOU NOW WHEN PEOPLE COME IN FROM AUTO ACCIDENTS IT'S PROBABLY ONE IN A HUNDRED, AND I SEE LOTS OF AUTO DISINTS THAT DIDN'T HAVE A SEAT BELT ON. 
          BUT IT TOOK TEN -- IT TOOK A LONG TIME. 
          I CAN ALSO TELL YOU WORKING IN THE EMERGENCY ROOM NOW THAT WE HAVE A HARD TIME GETTING PEOPLE TO WEAR THEIR MASK. 
          SO IF YOU'RE TELLING ME YOU CAN'T GET THE PEOPLE ON FRONT STREET I MEAN ON MAIN STREET TO WEAR THEIR MASK IN THE EMERGENCY ROOM THEY TAKE THEIR MASK OFF. AND I MEAN WHERE ELSE -- I MEAN YOU'RE IN THE PLACE OF COVID. I MEAN, SO TO SPEAK. 
          AND AT LEAST WHERE THERE ARE PEOPLE WHO KNOW ABOUT COVID AND PEOPLE TAKE THEIR MASKS OFF. SO I DON'T THINK IT'S POSSIBLE, AND YOU TELL THEM PUT GRAND JURY YOUR MASKON. 
          YOU GO OUT OF THE ROOM AND THEY TAKE THE MASK OFF. 
          I DON'T THINK IT'S POSSIBLE TO POLICE IT. 
          PEOPLE VOLUNTARILY DO IT NOW, AS IN SEAT BELTS BECAUSE THEY DO IT IN THEIR OWN SELF INTEREST. I DON'T THINK, THE CITY MANAGER, YOU CAN'T POLICE ALL THESE PEOPLE, IT'S IMPOSSIBLE. 
          AND SO IT IS WHAT IT IS. >> COMMISSIONER LEDNOVICH. 
          >> THE LAST POINT I WANT TO MAKE ON THE STATISTICS. 
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IS THE LARGEST AGE GROUP NOW IS 18 TO 25. 
          SO THE TERM IS SUPER-SPREADERS. SO THAT IS NOW THE FOLKS WHO ARE GETTING INFECTED THAT PUT OTHERS AT RISK. 
          SO THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU. 
          AND DID I GET, DID I SEE IS SOMETHING ON THE EOC'S WEBSITE THAT, THE NUMBER SEEMED AWFUL HIGH TO ME. 
          HAVE YOU SEEN THAT TOO? >> YES, THERE WAS NO REPORT OF -- FOR YESTERDAY'S NUMBERS, OKAY? 
          >> SO IT WASN'T OMISREPORTING, IT WAS A NO-REPORTING? 
          >> IT WAS NO REPORTING, THEY WERE HAVING PROBLEMS GETTING THE 
          STATISTICS. >> THANK YOU SIR. 
          COMMISSIONER. >> I GUESS I HAVE TO DISAGREE THAT THERE IS NO WAY TO ENFORCE THIS. 
          OTHER COUNTRIES HAVE BEEN ABLE SUCCESSFULLY. 
          WHEN YOU SAY IT CAN'T BE ENFORCED YOU HAVE TO SAY IN THE UNITED STATES AND I THINK IN THE HOSPITAL. 
          PERSON WHO TAKES THEIR MASK OFF, AND THEY TAKE THEIR MASK OFF, YOU HAVE TO LEAVE. SECURITY ESCORTS THEM OUT. 
          TO NOT DO THAT IS NOT TO ACCEPT THE RESPONSIBILITY OF THE HOSPITAL. PERSONALLY I THINK WE SHOULD HAVE MANDATORY MASKS ON IF OUTSIDE ON OUR SIDEWALKS AND IT WOULD BE VERY EASY TO ENFORCE THAT. 
          THERE ARE PLACES IN THIS COUNTRY THAT ARE DOING THINGS TO ENFORCE IT. SO I DON'T ACCEPT THE FACT THAT IT'S NOT ENFORCEABLE. AND I THINK WE HAVE TO IMPRESS UPON PEOPLE, HEY, STEP UP, AS AN AMERICAN. 
          DO YOUR PATRIOTIC PART AND PUT A MASK ON. 
          BECAUSE IT'S YOUR FELLOW AMERICANS WHO ARE GETTING SICK AND WHO ARE DYING. AND WE HAVE YET TO KNOW THE LONG TERM EFFECTS OF BEING -- HAVING CAUGHT THIS VIRUS. 
          AND THAT'S GOING TO LAST A LONG TIME IN THIS COUNTRY. 
          SO I REALLY THINK WE NEED TO STEP UP AND, YES, I DO BELIEVE 
          IT CAN BE ENFORCED. >> DID YOU HAVE A COMMENT? 
          >> YES, I'D LIKE TO AT LEAST EXPRESS THE UNFORTUNATE NEWS FROM THE FIRE CHIEF THAT AT LEAST ONE FIREFIGHTER HAS CAN CONTRACTED COVID AND DUE TO THE CLOSE PROXIMITY, WE HAVE EIGHT FIRST RESPONDERS IN QUARANTINE. IT IS ACTUALLY SURPRISING THAT IT'S TAKEN THIS LONG. I KNOW OTHER AREA PUBLIC SAFETY AGENCIES HAVE BEEN DECIMATED TO A GREATER EXTENT SO I'M ACTUALLY SURPRISED IT'S TAKEN THIS LONG. BUT THEY ARE BEING QUARANTINED AWAY FROM THEIR FAMILIES AND AWAY FROM EACH OTHER. 
          AND THEY'LL BE QUARANTINED FOR TWO WEEKS. 
          BUT THAT WILL HAVE AN IMPACT ON RESPONSE RATES AND OPERATION HE AT THE FIRE DEPARTMENT. OPERATION AT THE FIRE DEPARTMENT. BUT LET YOU KNOW THE CHIEF REPORTED THAT TO ME LATE SUNDAY NIGHT. 
          >> ARE WE GOOD ON THAT? ITEM 5.7, LEGISLATIVE 
          [5.7 LEGISLATIVE PRIORITIES]
PRIORITIES. WHO PUT THIS ON I GUESS THIS IS 
          JUST A DISCUSSION ITEM. >> WE HAVE THIS HERE FOR YOUR DISCUSSION AND CONSIDERATION. WE DO NEED A LITTLE BIT OF DIRECTION. SO WE CAN PUT A RESOLUTION ON THE, AT THE LATEST, THE OCTOBER MEETING. 
          BUT HOPEFULLY, SEPTEMBER. >> WE HAVE A PLACE OVER THE NEXT 
          TWO WEEKS. >> SEPTEMBER 15TH. 
          THE DELEGATION THIS YEAR AND THE LEGISLATIVE SESSION STARTS A LITTLE BIT LATER THAN IT DID THIS YEAR, SO I BELIEVE NOVEMBER IS WHEN THE LOCAL LEGISLATIVE DELEGATION WILL BE MEETING TO ACCEPT WHAT THE PRIORITIES ARE AND HOPEFULLY TAKE THEM ON. 
          BUT LIKELY, WE DO LIKE TO HAVE YOU ALL GO AHEAD AND PRIORITIZE AT LEAST THREE ITEMS THAT WE CAR DISCUSSION AND -- 
          >> WHEN DO YOU NEED THIS INFORMATION BY? HOW LONG DO YOU HAVE BEFORE YOU NEED THIS? 
          >> NORTHEAST FLORIDA REGIONAL COUNSEL HAS ASKED WE SUBMIT OUR 
          PRIORITIES BY SEPTEMBER 25TH. >> OKAY. 
          >> WHICH IS WHY URGE IN THE PAST IT'S KIND OF BEEN OH MY GOSH THEY'RE DUE NEXT WEEK AND WE COBLG SOMETHING TOGETHER SO WE'RE AHEAD OF IT. WE'RE IN LINE WITH THE WAY NORTHEAST REGIONAL COUNSEL HAS ASKED FOR OUR PRIORITIES. 
          AND WE HAVE DISCUSSED SEVERAL VARIOUS PRIORITIES AND WHETHER YOU WANT TO MULL THEM, BUT WE'VE TALKED ABOUT MS. JACOBS HAS PROVIDED THE GRANT APPLICATION TO THE STATE FOR THE REPOINTING OF THE PECK CENTER SO AS A LEGISLATIVE CENTER TO FUND, NOT TO GIVE US THE FUNDS DIRECTLY BUT TO ASK THE STATE LEGISLATURE TO FUND THE DEPARTMENT OF STATE PROGRAM THAT PROVIDES THOSE GRANT FUNDS. WE'VE TALKED ABOUT OUR 
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RELATIONSHIP WITH THE PORT. WE'VE TALKED ABOUT RESILIENCY AT THE WATERFRONT. OF THE AMELIA RIVER WATER FRONT. 
          WE'VE TALKED ABOUT BEACH WALKOVERS, BEACH GAPS IN THE DUNE. THERE'S AT LEAST FOUR AND BASED UPON A DISCUSSION WE REALLY SHOULD LIMIT OURSELVES TO SET OUR SIGHTS, CONSENSUS ON ONE AS THE TOP OF PRIORITY AND THEN HOW WE RANK THE OTHER TWO OR THREE. BUT I WOULD, BASED UPON THE RECOMMENDATION OF MR. JACOBS WHO DOES THE HEAVY LIFTING IN THE LEGISLATURE, I WOULD NOT RECOMMEND HAVING MORE THAN TWO 
          OR THREE PRIORITIES. >> I ASKED THAT QUESTION, MY CONCERN IS AGAIN WE ARE PUTTING THIS ON AS A DISCUSSION ITEM AND WE SHOULD MAYBE GET PUBLIC INPUT ON THIS. 
          YOU'RE ASKING FOR A DISCUSSION, I'M JUST NOT COMFORTABLE WITH THAT, WITH -- I ASKED HOW LONG YOU NEED TO HAVE THIS. 
          >> IT WILL BE ON THE NEXT AGENDA AS THE RESOLUTION RANKING THE PRIOR. YOU HAVE A COUPLE OF WEEKS TO HAVE PEOPLE BRING YOU WHAT THEY BELIEVE SHOULD BE PRIORITIES AND THEN AT THAT MEETING WE'LL ACTUALLY HAVE THE FORMAL DISCUSSION RANK AND VOTE ON THE RESOLUTION AND GET THAT TO THE NORTHEAST FLORIDA REGIONAL COUNSEL. 
          >> BECAUSE I THINK WE SHOULD GET PUBLIC INPUT ON THAT AS WELL BEFORE WE COME TO A CONCLUSION. THANK YOU SIR. 
          VICE MAYOR KREGER, YOUR LIGHT WAS ON FIRST, OH IT WENT OUT. 
          >> THE NORTHEAST REGIONAL COUNSEL, I'M THE PRESIDENT OF. 
          WE WON'T EVEN DISCUSS THIS UNTIL OCTOBER. 
          AND IF YOU LOOK AT THE DOCUMENT THAT WAS ATTACHED, WE ACTUALLY HAD OUR LAST YEAR LEGISLATIVE REQUEST ON THERE. 
          THAT'S JUST A BOOK THAT GOES UP. THE REAL WORK IS DONE BY OUR LOBBYIST IN TALLAHASSEE. SO THAT'S A NICE THING TO HAVE AND IT MIGHT SUPPORT IT. WHERE THAT CAN BE OF VALUE IF IT'S A FUNDING OF A STATEWIDE PROGRAM. 
          BUT FOR OUR LEGISLATURE, INDIVIDUAL ONES, I TALKED TO BUDDY LAST WEEK AND HE FELT THAT WE SHOULD BE SUBMITTING THE WALKOVERS BECAUSE IT WAS ALREADY IN THERE. 
          THAT WILL BE UP TO THE COMMISSION. 
          I WOULD SAY ONE THAT WE HAVEN'T DISCUSSED THAT IT'S PROBABLY POLITICALLY THE CORRECT TIME TO DO IT IS THE PECK CENTER PROJECT. WE HAVE A MILLION FIVE IN THAT PROJECT. IT'S HISTORICAL, THERE IS A LOT OF GOOD REASONS TO DO IDENTITY. IT IS THE RIGHT TIME TO DO THAT ONE. IF WE COULD GET STATE FUNDING, WE'D FREE UP THAT MONEY TOO IN OUR GENERAL FUND. 
          IT'S IN THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN. 
          SO I WOULD HOPE THAT WOULD BE ON THE LIST FOR CONSIDERATION. 
          >> COMMISSIONER ROSS. >> I WOULD HOPE THAT THE PECK FUNDING WOULD BE ON THAT LIST, TOO. 
          I WOULD ALSO HOPE THAT THE PORT WOULD BE ON THAT LIST AND THE 
          PORT DOESN'T COST ANY MONEY. >> I GRAY. 
          >> SO THAT MIGHT BE A NO BRAINER. 
          IT IS NOT -- IT JUST DOESN'T TAKE MONEY. 
          AND THEREIN BEING -- AND NUMBER 3, RESILINCY DOWNING AT THE WATERFRONT. OUR WATERFRONT HAS BEEN OUR NUMBER 1 GOAL AT EVERY VISIONING I'VE SAT THROUGH SO I THINK 
          FUNDING IS IMPORTANT. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 
          AND THE NEXT ITEM IS GOING TO BE PUBLIC COMMENT AND A SCUM OF THOSE I SEE IS MS. BRIAN YOUR ONE IS ON THAT ONE. 
          IT'S PRETTY CLOSE FOR A BREAK, . AND DMOW WE ARE ON THE PUBLIC 
          [6. PUBLIC COMMENT REGARDING ITEMS NOT ON THE AGENDA OR ITEMS ON THE CONSENT AGENDA]
COMMENT. BEFORE WE GET STARTED, LOOKS LIKE WE'RE OKAY. NO STANDING AREA, WE DO HAVE A ROOM OUTSIDE, CHAIR UP HERE AND THANK YOU SIR. 
          OKAY. ALL RIGHT, THE FIRST SPEAKER I'M GOING TO GO AHEAD AND LET BYRON SPEAK FIRST, 5.3 THE BEACHES, MIGHT BE READING THAT, 5.5, BRINN BRYANT. 
          >> YOU'RE ON. >>  I WANT TO SPEAK AFTER THIS 
          GENTLEMAN IF THAT'S POSSIBLE. >> HE'S NOT DOING THAT UNTIL -- THAT'S ACTUALLY AN AGENDA -- I JUST HAD YOU ON 5.3 AND I SKIPPED OVER YOU. ALL RIGHT MR. KEVIN LEARY. 
          WELCOME SIR. >> GOOD EVENING, KEVIN LEARY, THREE 20 SOUTH 9TH STREET, FERNANDINA BEACH FLORIDA. 
          I THINK IF WE TOOK A POLL OF THE ROOM WE'D FIND A CONSENSUS MR. ROSS THAT EVERYBODY HERE LOVES TURTLES. 
          WE LOVE SEA TURTLES. I'M GOING TO PASS OUT A COUPLE 
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THINGS HERE. IF I MAY. 
          ON OR ABOUT THE 9TH OF JUNE UNFORTUNATELY THREE DIFFERENT FEMALE LOGGERHEAD TURTLES FOWN THEIR WAY TO THE FOOT OF CENTER STREET AT MAIN BEACH AND LAID THEIR CLUTCHES OF EGGS. 
          THE CLOCK STARTED TICKING AT THAT TIME. 
          WE AS THE SUPERIOR HUMAN BEINGS THAT WE ARE, WE HAVE 50 DAYS OR 50 TO 60 DAYS IN ORDER TO GET OUR ACT TOGETHER TO ALLOW THAT TO OCCUR, JUST GET OUT OF THE WAY. 
          ON ABOUT AUGUST -- ON AUGUST 3RD, I HAPPENED TO BE ON THE BEACH AND I NOTICED SOME QUITE HARSH LIGHTING COMING FROM ONE OF THE LODGES AT THE MAIN BEACH AREA. 
          AND THAT DAY I POSTED THAT ON SOCIAL MEDIA, IT WAS THEN PICKED UP BY OTHER INDIVIDUALS WOULD PLACED IT ON CITIZENS FOR PUBLIC BEACHES AND OTHER FORUMS. AND AT SOME POINT THE OWNER CAUGHT WIND OF MY POSTING AND RESPONDED TO ME, AND WASN'T VERY NICE. LET ME BEGIN BY SAYING THAT I'M NOT ANTI-BUSINESS. I'M PRO-WILDLIFE. 
          AND I'M PRO -- I'M THE VOICE THAT THESE VOICELESS DO NOT HAVE. ON THE THIRD TOOK THE PICTURES. 
          POSTED THAT. THE OWNER CAME BACK AT ME AND BASICALLY I COULD READ IT TO YOU BUT SHE BLAMED IT ON EMPLOYEES, ON COVID-19, VARIOUS OTHER THINGS. 
          A FEW DAYS WENT BY, AND THEN ON AUGUST 9TH, THE EGGS HATCHED. 
          AND LO AND BEHOLD THEY DISORIENTED, ACTUALLY TWO DIFFERENT NESTS, DISORIENTED. THE CLOCK WAS STILL TICKING. 
          WE STILL HAD TIME FOR THE THIRD NEST THAT WAS UP, LO AND BEHOLD, WE DIDN'T DO ANYTHING THEN, ALL OF THE THREE NECESSARIES DISORIENTED, MS. DID YOU EVERY, THE HEAD OF THE TURLTD WATCH ASSOCIATION, ON FILE WITH THE FWC FORUMS. I'M SHIRR THIS IS A ITEM THAT INTEREST YOU FOLKS AS WELL. 
          I SPEAK WITH MICHELLE QUITE OFTEN WHO IS THE CODE ENFORCEMENT OFFICER TO THE POINT I'VE WORN HER OUT. 
          I'M AT WIT'S END, I DON'T KNOW WHAT TO DO, I'VE REPORTED THIS MANY TIMES AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT OCCURS, I DON'T KNOW THAT WE HAVE AN ORDINANCE, MICHELLE SAYS WE DO, WE NEED SWMG SOME TEETH. 
          THIS PHOTOGRAPH HAS A HISTORY OF THIS WHEN THE CABLES OWNED IT, THEY HAVE A DISORIENTATION THAT WAS ATTRIBUTED TO THEIR ESTABLISHMENT. THEY'RE NOT THE ONLY ONES -- 
          JUST GETTING ROLLING. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH SIR. 
          >> HERE IS EIGHT DIFFERENT BROCHURES THAT I FOUND IN THE CODE OFFICE ALL REGARDING TURTLES AND HOW MUCH WE CARE ABOUT THEM. IT'S A WASTE OF FOSSIL FUEL AND 
          EVERYTHING, BUT WE LOVE TURTLES. >> MR. KREGER, I SAW YOUR 
          LIGHTS, DID YOU HAVE A QUESTION? >> KEVIN, WAIT A MINUTE. 
          I JUST WANT TO COMMENT ON THIS INCIDENT. 
          I'M FAMILIAR WITH THIS INCIDENT. I'M COMMENTING THE SOCIAL MEDIA, BUT AS A RESULT OF THIS PARTICULAR, WHAT WAS GOING ON, THAT ORGANIZATION ASKED FOR, WAS GIVEN GUIDANCE, SEA TURTLE WATCH PEOPLE MARY DUFFY ACTUALLY WENT OUT THERE AND TALKED, EDUCATED ALL THE PEOPLE. NOW WE'LL SEE IF THAT DOES ANY GOOD BUT THERE WAS A POSITIVE THING ULTIMATELY. 
          THAT EFFORT TO DO SOMETHING. >> THANK YOU SIR. 
          MR. LEVIN. WOULD YOU LIKE TO ANSWER. 
          >> I ALSO FOLLOWED THIS ON SOCIAL MEDIA AND WHILE I AGREE AND YOU HAVE THE PHOTOGRAPHIC EVIDENCE THAT THEIR LIGHTS WERE ON AS VICE MAYOR KREGER SAID, THERE WAS A PRESENTATION TO THEIR STAFF. THEY ARE IN COMPLIANCE. 
          BUT IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THERE WAS ALSO ANOTHER FACILITY IN THAT VICINITY THAT ALSO HAD THEIR LIGHTS ON. 
          SO THIS WASN'T THE LONE VIOLATOR SO I DON'T WANT THE ENTIRE BLAME PLACED ON THIS ESTABLISHMENT THAT THERE ARE OTHER VIOLATORS AS WELL. SO I WANTED TO PUT THAT IN THERE. OKAY. 
          >> OKAY MS. MINSHU. >> THIS IS BEACH ACCESS 40, THIS IS WHERE FILL DIRT KEEPS BROUGHT IN TO -- 
          >> I KNOW IT'S FINE. I GET IT. 
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          >> I'M JANICE MINCHU, I LIVE ON BEACH ACCESS DRIVE. 
          I'LL SHOW YOU THIS VIDEO TAKEN BY MY NEIGHBOR KELLY BOSTON, SHE SENT IT TO ME AND SAID WHAT SHOULD DO I? I SAID I KNOW WHAT TO DO. I SENT IT OUT TO Y'ALL. 
          I WAS THERE, I'VE GOTTEN ANSWERS FROM MR. KREGER AND MR. ROSS, DIFFERENT ANSWERS ABOUT HOW TO FIX IT. 
          I WAS THERE AT 12:45 TODAY. IT IS STILL -- LOOKS EXACTLY LIKE THIS. AND HAS NOT BEEN ROPED OFF. 
          IT IS STILL FULLY ACCESSIBLE. IT IS HORRIBLY UNSAFE. 
          UNTIL YOU GET THIS REPAIRED I WOULD STRONGLY URGE YOU TO CLOSE THIS BEACH ACCESS BECAUSE SOMEONE'S GOING TO GET REALLY 
          BADLY HURT HERE. >> FOR THE PATH WHERE WE ARE MISSING THE BOARDWALK THAT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE ADDED BACK IN HERE YOU CAN SEE WHATEVER FILL DIRT THEY'RE BRINGING IN IS RUNNING OFF ACTUALLY OVER INTO THE NATURAL DUNE AREA. 
          WE DO HAVE GOPHER OR THE TORTOISES WHO LIVE HERE. 
          IT IS DIRTY, THIS IS CAN GLASS PLASTIC, A LOT OF BAGS IN HERE SO IT'S PROBABLY NOT COMING FROM JUST PLAIN DIRT. 
          I'M SHOWING YOU SOME OF THE EROSION, THIS IS DEFINITELY SOMETHING THAT EASILY SOMEBODY IS GOING TO BREAK THEIR LEG. 
          THIS HAPPENS EVERY SINGLE TIME EVEN IF IT'S BROUGHT IN AGAIN MORE PLASTIC TRASH AND IT'S STUCK UNDER THE DIRT. 
          THAT'S WHY IT FEELS LIKE IT CAME WITH THE DIRT. 
          SO THIS IS AGAIN JUST THAT RUNOFF THAT YOU'RE SEEING ALL THE WAY UP TO THE PARKING LOT. MORE STUFF, RUBBLE, PLASTIC, GLASS. THIS IS WHERE IT'S REALLY BAD. 
          THAT'S REALLY DEEP ACTUALLY. I TOOK A PICTURE OF A FLIP-FLOP IN THERE SO CAN YOU SEE THE DEPTH. 
          I'LL PUT IT BACK IN THERE. AND BACK UP. 
          THIS IS A WOMAN, SIZE 7 FLIP-FLOP. 
          >> THIS IS REALLY DANGEROUS AND THIS IS NOT THE FIRST TIME THIS HAS HAPPENED. THIS HAS HAPPENED CONSISTENTLY. 
          AND WE'VE ALL BEEN NOTIFIED OF IT CONSISTENTLY. 
          AND AS MY MOTHER WOULD SAY, THIS IS WHY WE CAN'T HAVE NICE THINGS. BECAUSE WE DON'T TAKE CARE OF THINGS. SO I WROTE STRONGLY URGE YOU TO FIX THIS AND FIX IT FAST AND FILL IT RIGHT. 
          AND UNTIL IT IS FIXED RIGHT, THAT YOU CLOSE THIS ACCESS. 
          BECAUSE SOMEBODY'S GOING TO GET REALLY BADLY HURT. 
          AND I DON'T THINK ANY OF US WANT THAT. 
          SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >> THANK YOU. 
          MR. LEDNOVICH. >> JANICE IF YOU COULD STAY THERE PLEASE I'D APPRECIATE IT. SO I'D COPIED YOU ON MY E-MAIL 
          TO THE CITY MANAGER. >> YEAH, THAT SAID INSANITY IS DOING THE SAME THING OVER AND OVER AGAIN EXPECTING A DIFFERENT 
          RESULT. >> RIGHT. 
          AND THE REASON DID I THAT IS I DID THAT ISSHORTLY WHEN WE TOE WALKOVER THIS PROBLEM OCCURRED. A GENTLEMAN BY THE NAME OF TOM YANKIS BROUGHT IT TO MY ATTENTION ON FACEBOOK AND I BROUGHT IT TO THE CITY MANAGER'S ATTENTION. 
          IT WAS A YEAR AGO. >> NO IT'S BEEN 18 MONTHS THAT IT'S BEEN LIKE THIS. AND EVERY TIME IT RAINS FOR THE 
          LAST 18 MONTHS THIS HAPPENS. >> EVERY TIME IT RAINS THIS 
          HAPPENS. >> YOU PUT BAD DIRT, YOU DON'T PUT SAND. YOU DON'T EVEN GET GOOD DIRT, I DON'T KNOW WHERE YOU'RE GETTING THE SAND BUT IT'S TERRIBLE. 
          >> TO MY POINTS MY MEETING WITH THE CITY MANAGER AUGUST 24TH, VERY FIRST THING ON MY LIST, ACCESS 40. 
          ANDRE IS WORKING ON IT. AND IN MY MEETING ON THE 24TH WITH THE CITY MANAGER, AND HE CAN ATTEST TO THIS, I SAID THE FOLLOWING. I AM TIRED OF GETTING E-MAILS AND NOTIFICATIONS ABOUT ACCESS 40. 
          PLEASE FIGURE OUT A PERMANENT FIX. 
          AND THEN THIS HAPPENS. SO I'M HOPING THE CITY MANAGER WILL COME TO THE LECTERN AND TELL US WHAT THE PERMANENT FIX 
          IS GOING TO BE. >> AND IF ANN DWRAI IS GOING TO DO STORM WATER HERE HE IS GOING TO HAVE TO GET DEP PERMITS AND ALL SORTS OF THINGS. HE'S NOT GOING TO GET THIS DONE IN A WEEK. WHICH IS WHY I SAY YOU NEED TO CLOSE THIS BEACH ACCESS UNTIL IT IS PROPERLY REPAIRED AND SAFE 
          FOR OUR CITIZENS TO USE. >> VICE MAYOR. 
          >> YES, 40 IS ONE OF THOSE, WAS IT, THAT WE PULLED 40 OUT. 
          I WAS INVOLVED AND I SPENT A YOU COUPLES OF E-MAILS AND I 
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ANSWERED JANICE AND I TALKED TO DALE ABOUT IT TODAY. 
          TO ME IT'S A SIMPLE CASE OF WHEN IT GETS IN THAT SITUATION, TO ME THAT'S A NO BRAINER. WHAT YOU DO IS YOU PUT SOME FRENCH TILES OR YOU PUT A DRAIN IN THERE AND DO YOU IT AND YOU REROUTE, IT'S ACTUALLY GUIDED, THERE'S HOLES ON EITHER SIDE OF THIS AND I'M SURE THE DEP WOULD GIVE US A FIELD PERMIT BUT DALE'S GOING TO WORK ON THAT. ANDI ALSO SUGGESTING THAT WE NEED TO WATCH THESE. 40 IS NOT THE ONLY ONE. 
          YOU HAVE A SIMILAR DRAINAGE PROBLEM THAT'S STARTING AT 30. 
          AND WE HAVE TO HAVE A WAY OF CHECKING THESE AND WHEN IT'S APPROPRIATE THAT WE DO SOMETHING WE PUT UP BARRIERS AND MAKE SURE THEY'RE SAFE. AND YOU'RE GOING TO TAKE CARE OF 
          THAT. >> IF I CAN MR. MAYOR, I KNOW COMMISSIONER ROSS REACHED OUT TO MR. HOFF. 
          MR. HOFF ACTUALLY PROVIDED SOME RECOMMENDATIONS ON SIZE OF GRAVEL AND COARSE SAND AND THINGS LIKE THAT. 
          YES, THOSE HAVE BEEN FORWARDED. BECAUSE AS INDICATED BY MS. MINCHU, THE DISCUSSION TALKS ABOUT YES, YOU ARE GOING DO HAVE TO GET THE PROPER PERMITTING THROUGH DEP SO THE LONG PERMANENT SOLUTION CAN BE WORKED ON BUT THERE IS A SHORT TERM SOLUTION THAT'S BEEN PRESENTED THAT I'VE AGAIN SHARED WITH PARKS AND REC DEPARTMENT TO SAY HERE'S SHORT TERM SIMPLE SOLUTION THAT INVOLVES JUST SOME HEAVY DUTY GRAVEL, COARSE SAND OVER THE TOP OF THAT AND I BELIEVE WHEN MR. HOFF COMES UP IF YOU WANT TO QUERY HIM ABOUT PART OF THE BEACH DISCUSSION, THAT RECOMMENDATION HAS BEEN FORWARDED TO THE PARKS AND REC DEPARTMENT FOR IMPLEMENTATION. IT SHOULD BE ADDRESSED BECAUSE I AGREE THAT IF IT IS THAT MUCH OF A DANGER THEN WE NEED TO CLOSE THAT AND I THINK WE CAN EASILY FIX IT WITH THE SIMPLE SOLUTION THAT HAS BEEN OFFERED BY MR. HOFF. 
          >> WHAT ABOUT THE ISSUE OF CLOSING IT BEFORE IT'S I FIXED? DO WE WANT TO CLOSE IT NOW BEFORE THE SIMPLE SOLUTION GOES IN, I THINK THE CITY ATTORNEY WOULD LIKE US TO -- WE KNOW THAT BEACH ACCESS IS CLOSED AS MUCH AS -- CAN REALLY DO AS FAR AS -- 
          >> I DIDN'T KNOW ABOUT THIS ISSUE BUT NOW THAT I DO, I WOULD BE REMISS TO SAY THAT AS YOUR CITY ATTORNEY, THE LIABILITIES 
          IS GREATLY ENHANCED. >> YOU GOT THAT COVERED? 
          >> YES. >> THANK YOU MS. MINCHU. 
          CREDIT VICE MAYOR? >> I TURNED OFF MY LIGHT. 
          >> MR. BRYANT OLIPHANT. >> HE WAS OUT IN THE WAITING 
          ROOM. >> I'LL GIVE HIM TIME. 
          IS THERE ANYBODY COMING TOWARDS THE DOOR? WHY DON'T WE TAKE ANTHONY DANIEL, REVEREND, UNTIL 
          MR. OLIPHANT. >> MR. OLIPHANT IS HERE. 
          >> YOU'RE UP SIR. >> I'LL GO AFTER. 
          >> OKAY SIR. MR. REVEREND ANN ANTHONY, 
          WELCOME REVEREND. >> ANTHONY DANIEL, PASTOR, MACEDONIA AME CHURCH. FERNANDINA BEACH. 
          BLACK LIVES MATTER. THE EXPRESSION BLACK MATTERS WAS NOT A SLOGAN OR -- OF EXCLUSION IT WAS A SLOGAN OF FOCUS. 
          IT WAS NOT A STATEMENT OF EXCLUSION BUT A STATEMENT OF FOCUS AND THERE'S NOTHING WRONG WITH FOCUS. 
          JEWISH PEOPLE FOCUS ON THEIR ISSUES. 
          AND IF YOU DON'T AGREE WITH IT, YOU'RE AN ANTISEMITE. 
          WOMEN FOCUS ON THE ISSUE AND IF YOU DON'T AGREE WITH THEM YOU'RE A MISOGYNIST. BUT WHEN IT COMES FOR US TO FOCUS BLACK LIVES ISSUES, WE ARE BEING RACIST AND ARE TOLD TO GO BACK WHERE WE CAME FROM. POLICE FREE TO SHOOT AT WILL, SAD TO SEE, THE OLD SLAVE MILL IS STILL GRINDING, GRINDING SLOW BUT STILL GRINDING. WALKING HOME JOGGING ON THE STREET, BLACK CHILDREN GETS KILLED, NEIGHBORS FREE TO SHOOT, AT THE HURT AND IT WILL HURT, TO SEE THE OLD SLAVE MILL IS GRINDING SLOW BUT GRINDING STILL. 
          RACISM DOES EXIST. STEREOTYPING OF BLACK PEOPLE STILL DOES EXIST. WE HAVE TO RECOGNIZE THAT THERE IS A PROBLEM BEFORE WE CAN SOLVE THE PROBLEM. 
          WE HAVE TO STOP TRYING TO TIPPY TOE AROUND IT AND DEAL WITH THIS 
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ISSUE. THAT'S STRAIGHT UP AND PLAIN. 
          SOME, WE THINK OUTSIDE THE BOX, WHILE SOME OF US WILL HOLD THE LINE. THERE IS A -- THIS IS A CRITICAL TIME. SO WE MUST THINK CRITICALLY. 
          WE HAVE BEEN WATCHING AND WE HAVE BEEN PROTESTING, YET NOTHING -- YET GETTING THE SAME RESULT. 
          IT'S TIME TO DO SOMETHING DIFFERENT. 
          BLACK LIVES MATTER IS A LEGITIMATE MOVEMENT. 
          THERE MAY BE SOME PEOPLE WHO HAVE DONE SOME THINGS THAT WE DON'T AGREE WITH. BUT AS OF REC, RACIAL EQUALITY COALITION, OUR ISSUES ARE TO DRAWS ATTENTION TO SYSTEMIC AND RACISM, TO MITIGATE FOR EQUALITY AND INCLUSION OF BLACK CITIZENS IN THE CITY OF FERNANDINA BEACH, FOR THRIVING, SHAREHOLDERS THOSE PEOPLE OF AUTHORITY WHO RUN AGENTS, POLICY MAKE AERS AND ELECTED OFFICIALS LIKE YOURSELF WE NEED YOU TO STEP UP. 
          UTILIZING YOUR WHITE PRIVILEGE, THE ECONOMIC ADVANTAGE, RESOURCES, LAW ENFORCEMENT, AND CRIMINAL JUSTICE INFLUENCE, TO ASSIST IN BRIDGING THE GAP FOR THE MOST VULNERABLE IN THE BLACK COMMUNITY. OUR NATION IS LOOKING FOR A GLIMPSE OF SANITY AND UNITY. A PLACE WHERE EVERY CITIZEN CAN SHARE AND CELEBRATE THE UNITY AND DIVERSITY. 
          I BELIEVE FERNANDINA BEACH IS RIPE FOR BECOMING THAT BRIGHT 
          STAR. >> THANK YOU SIR. 
          >> WHICH CAN SET THE EXAMPLE AND MODEL FOR THE ENTIRE NATION TO FOLLOW IN OUR FOOTSTEPS. WHICH HAS BEEN THE PREMISE OF BRIDGING THE GAP FROM THE VERY BEGINNING. 
          THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU SIR. 
          DO YOU HAVE ANY SUGGESTIONS? I MEAN, DO YOU HAVE SOME SPECIFIC THINGS WE CAN DO AT THIS LEVEL THAT YOU WOULD 
          RECOMMEND? >> WELL, THERE IS A BLACK AGENDA. I WOULD LIKE TO STATE THAT I WOULD LIKE THE CITY TO BE CONSCIENTIOUS AND INTENTIONAL IN ADDRESSING BLACK LIVES. THERE IS A BLACK AGENDA WHICH I WOULD LIKE TO SHARE AT MAYBE A SUBMEETING THAT YOU WOULD HAVE. 
          >> YES, SIR. >> AND WE CAN DISCUSS AND SHARE THAT WITH BRIDGING THE GAP AND REC. 
          >> THANK YOU SIR. DID I MISS ANYBODY? ANYBODY ELSE WANT TO SPEAK? OKAY. 
          NEXT ITEM I AGAIN THEN ARE RESOLUTIONS. 
          [7.1 AMENDED AND EXTENDED - EMERGENCY ORDER – COVID19 - MANDATORY MASKS]
THIS IS ITEM SEVEN.1 AMENDED AND EXTENDED EMERGENCY ORDER ¡V COVID19 - MANDATORY MASKS - 
          ATTORNEY. >> YES, UNDER THE LAW EMERGENCY ORDERS EXPIRE EVERY SEVEN DAYS. WE DID THREE OR FOUR EXTENSIONS THROUGH SEPTEMBER 8TH. WE NEED TONIGHT ON SEPTEMBER 1ST TO EXTEND THIS AGAIN AND SO IT'S HERE FOR YOUR 
          CONSIDERATION. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 
          >> RECOMMEND APPROVAL. >> SECOND. 
          >> I HAVE A MOTION AND SECOND. COMMISSIONER ROSS YOU'RE 
          RECOGNIZED. >> I WILL VOTE FOR THIS BUT WE NEED TO START THINKING ABOUT, HAVING TALKED TO SOME OF THE COUNTY COMMISSIONERS, IS THAT THEY MAY NOT BE RENEWING THEIR MASK ORDINANCE. SO WHAT -- HOW THAT WILL WORK OUT AND HOW WE WANT TO ADDRESS THAT. 
          >> THANK YOU SIR. COMMISSIONER LEDNOVICH. 
          >> IN RESPONSE TO WHAT COMMISSIONER ROSS JUST SAID, WE ACTED WITH THIS MASK ORDER BEFORE THE COUNTY. 
          BECAUSE THE COUNTY, QUITE FRANKLY, WASN'T DOING ANYTHING. 
          SO I BELIEVE WE NEED TO FOLLOW OUR BEST JUDGMENT FOR THE HEALTH SAFETY AND WELFARE FOR OUR CITIZENS AND VISITORS. 
          SO THE COUNTY CAN DO WHAT THE COUNTY WANTS TO DO. 
          BUT EVERYONE SAW THE NUMBERS THAT -- THE GRAPH WHICH IS DRAMATICALLY WORSE, THE PAST TWO WEEKS, AND WE HAVE MORE DEATHS. 
          SO I THINK WE HAVE TO CONTINUE DOING EVERYTHING THAT WE CAN TO OEMITIGATE THE SPREAD OF THIS VIRUS. 
          I DISAGREE WITH COMMISSIONER CHAPMAN THAT I'M NOT SAYING WRITE PEOPLE UP RIGHT AND LEFT. BUT CAN WE HAVE SOME PRESENCE, SOME OFFICIAL PRESENCE THAT JUST SAYS, PLEASE PUT A MASK ON. 
          PLEASE PULL THE MASK UP ABOVE YOUR NOSE. 
          AN OFFICIAL PRESENCE. BECAUSE I'M GETTING TIRED OF 
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DOING IT. AND I'M DOING IT AS A PRIVATE CITIZEN. PEOPLE LOOK AT ME LIKE I'M NUTS. 
          TOO BAD, I DON'T WANT TO GET THE VIRUS. 
          SO DID WE'RE GOING TO PASS THIS WE CAN'T SAY OH WELL WHICH SEEMS TO BE WHAT WE WANT TO DO, OH WELL YES WE HAVE MANDATORY MASKS 
          BUT OH WELL. >> VICE MAYOR. 
          >> CONCERNING THE COUNTY, I PERSONALLY FIND IT DIFFICULT TO BELIEVE THAT THE COUNTY WILL NOT PASS, CONTINUE THE MASK. 
          SPECIFICALLY BECAUSE ALL THE MAJOR CHAINS, THE WALMARTS AND ALL THE OTHER STORES ARE GOING TO CONTINUE THAT. 
          AND WHEN THEY LOOK AT ALL THE DATA, OF ALL THE EXPERTS, THEY WILL SEE THAT IT'S POLITICALLY A WISE MOVE TO CONTINUE AND THE SAFETY OF THE PEOPLE. SO I ENCOURAGE THE COUNTY TO 
          CONTINUE. >> COMMISSIONER ROSS. 
          >> I AGREE WITH YOU. I'M JUST BRINGING UP, I'M JUST -- I'M NOT SAYING THAT WE SHOULDN'T CONTINUE. 
          I WAS JUST ALERTING YOU THE THAT THAT WEMAY BE GOING IT ALONE. 
          >> VICE MAYOR? >> NO I'M GOOD. 
          >> I JUST WANTED TO SAY FOR THE RECORD, I COULDN'T FIND THIS RESOLUTION NUMBER. THIS RESOLUTION 2020-94 JUST FOR OUR RECORD KEEPING IS CHANGING TO ANOTHER RESOLUTION NUMBER. 
          SO WHEN YOU MAKE THE MOTION TO APPROVE THIS IT SOUNDS LIKE THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE GOING TO DO, YOU CAN INCLUDE 2020-94 BUT THAT NUMBER IS GOING TO CHANGE TO ANOTHER NUMBER FOR THE RECORD BUT THAT WHAT YOU'RE APPROVING IS AN EXTENSION OF THE MASK ORDER. THIS IS GOING TO EXTEND IT. 
          I'M GUESSING WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO EXTEND IT AGAIN. 
          IT DOESN'T LOOK LIKE THE VIRUS IS JUST GOING DO STOP. 
          TO STOP. SO WE'LL BRING THAT TO YOU AS THE LAW ALLOWS AND NEXT MEETING ON SEPTEMBER 15TH JUST SO THERE'S NO CONFUSION, THE EMERGENCY POWERS ORDINANCE AT A WE LOOKED AT ONE TIME ALREADY IS GOING TO INCLUDE LAW ENFORCEMENT, AND CODE ENFORCEMENT. 
          AND I CONFERRED WITH THE CITY MANAGER, TO BE ABLE TO ENFORCE THIS. BUT IN TERMS OF AND I'M NOT MAKING ANY EXCUSES. WE JUST HAVE TO BE REALISTIC. 
          I KNOW I AM. IS WE HAVE AND I'M JUST SAYING CHIEF I'M SORRY IF I MISQUOTE. DLIEF POLICE OFFICERS, WE HAVE SERVE OFFICERS, AUXILIARY AND WE HAVE TWO CODE ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS. IT IS IMPOSSIBLE FOR US TO DO THINGS LIKE WITHOUT A COMPLAINT GO INSIDE THE MOVIE THEATER AND CAMP THEM NOT ENFORCING THEIR MASK ORDER. 
          WE HAVE TO DO IT FOR EACH OTHER. I'VE DONE OIT TOO. 
          WHEN I SHOP AT WINN DIXIE WHEN WE HAD THE MASK ORDER, I WENT TO THE MANAGER AND SAID DID YOU KNOW THAT THE CITY AND THE COUNTY ADOPTED THE MASK ORDER, WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO DO ABOUT IT? I SHOP HERE EVERY WEEK COUPLE OF TIMES A WEEK, WE HAVE TO DO THIS TO THE EXTENT THAT IT IS POSSIBLE, I HAVEN'T BEEN SPIT ON YET, I DON'T IDENTIFY MYSELF, I GET NASTY LOOKS OR THEY WALK AWAY, WE HAVE TO DO THE BEST WE CAN, THERE IS GOING TO BE VIOLATORS UNFORTUNATELY. 
          >> DO WE KNOW IF THE SCHOOLS ARE ENFORCING A MASK ORDER WHEN THE 
          KIDS ARE INSIDE THE BUILDING? >> YES. 
          >> THEY ARE GOOD. >> YES. 
          AND DR. ROSS IS ACTUALLY ON IS IT A TASK FORCE OR DOES TALK WITH DR. BURNS ABOUT IT. AND WAS PART OF THAT WITH DR. SEIDEL FROM THE DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH IN COMING UP WITH WHAT THEIR PLAN WAS GOING TO BE. BUT YES, THERE ARE I CAN JUST SAY FROM WHAT MY OWN EXPERIENCE AS A PARENT, SEEING THERE ARE DESK DIVIDERS, THEY ARE KEEPING CLASSES FROM MINGLING TOGETHER. 
          FOR EXAMPLE THEY HAVE WHAT WE USED TO HAVE AS ELECTIVES AS SEPARATE CLASSES FOR AN HOUR. THEY HAVE SHORT PERIODS OF TIME FOR A WEEK. INSTEAD OF GOING TO THE MUSIC CLASS THE MUSIC TEACHER COMES TO THE CLASSES. 
          INSTEAD OF ONE PERSON, INSTEAD OF THE WHOLE CLASS IT IS JUST 
          ONE PERSON. >> I HAD A MEMBER OF THE COMMUNITY ASK ME THE QUESTION THAT DOESN'T HAVE CHILDREN WHEN 
          SCHOOL WAS BACK. >> SESSION SHE ASKED IF SCHOOLS WERE FOLLOWING MANDATED MASK ORDERS. 
          >> ABSOLUTELY. >> I HEARD SOMEONE SAY IT'S 
          OPTIONAL. >> IT'S NOT OPTIONAL NOT JUST FOR PUBLIC SCHOOLS IT IS MANDATORY FOR PRIVATE SCHOOLS. 
          THEY ARE A BUSINESS AND THEY ARE BOUND TO ABIDE BY THIS MASK 
          ORDER AS WELL. >> OKAY, GREAT, THANK YOU VERY MUCH. ALL RIGHT SIE SEEING NO FURTHER 
          LIGHTS CALL THE ROLL. >> VICE MAYOR KREGER, YES, 
          [7.2 AWARD OF RFP # 2020-02 – MANAGING AND/OR LEASING MARINA FACILITIES]
7.2 AWARD OF RFP # 2020-02 MANAGING AND/OR LEASING MARINA FACILITIES RESOLUTION 2020-98. 
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AWARDING RFP # 2020-02 FOR MANAGING AND/OR LEASING MARINA FACILITIES. CITY MANAGER. 
          >> I WILL INTRODUCE NATHAN COYLE. 
          AS YOU KNOW AN EVALUATION COMMITTEE WAS PUT TOGETHER, IT WAS NOT THIS TIME JUST TO REMIND YOU ALL, THE CITY MANAGER USUALLY ASSIGNS WHO BUT IN THIS CASE I SPOKE WITH THE CITY MANAGER ABOUT MAKING SURE THAT WE DO HAVE AN EVALUATION COMMITTEE AS THE RFP SAID IT WOULD. 
          AND I ALONG WITH MRS. TESTAGROSE, CAME TOGETHER. 
          MR. COIM WAS ELECTED AIS OUR CHAIR SO I'LL LET HIM SPEAK BRIEFLY ABOUT WHAT WE DID AND WHAT OUR RECOMMENDATION IS. 
          >> THIS ONE IS WET AND DRY. >> PLANES AND BOATS. 
          >> WELCOME SIR. >> WELCOME, AIRPORT MANAGER. 
          THERE IS MORE AIRPLANES UNDERWATER THAN THERE ARE BOATS 
          IN THE SKY. >> SAY THAT AGAIN? 
          >> THERE ARE MORE AIRPLANES UNDERWATER THAN THERE ARE BOATS 
          IN THE SKY. >> THAT'S PROFOUND. 
          >> GOOD EVENING, I'M NATE COYLE AS MS. BACH MENTIONED. 
          TAMMY BAWRK THE CITY ATTORNEY, AND COMPTROLLER AND MYSELF, SERVED AS AN RFP COMMITTEE, I'M GOING TO WALK YOU THROUGH VERY BRIEFLY OUR PROCESS AND GIVE YOU THE RECOMMENDATION WHICH I BELIEVE YOU HAVE IN YOUR PACKET AND YOU ALREADY KNOW. 
          EARLY ON IN THE PROCESS WE CAME TOGETHER AND FIRST STEP IN THE PROCESS WE MET WITH THE MARINA ADVISORY OFFICE, TO SEE THEIR PROCESS AND WE WALKED OUT THEREOF WITH SOME GOOD FEEDBACK. 
          ONE OF THE GLARING COMMENTS WE RECEIVED IS OBVIOUSLY WE HAD NOBODY IN OUR COMMITTEE WITH MARINA EXPERIENCE ACKNOWLEDGE WE AGREED WITH THAT AND REACHED AUTO TO MR. LANGSHAW HE AGREED THANKFULLY TO JOIN US, I THINK HE WAS A GREAT ADDITION IN REVIEWING THE SUBMITTALS. FROM THERE WE RECEIVED ALL FIVE SUBMITTALS FROM THE RFP PROCESS AND BEGAN REVIEW. 
          WE CONDUCTED A PUBLIC MEETING WHERE WE INVITED EACH OF THE SUBMITTING AGENCIES TO COME IN AND PROVIDE A SHORT PRESENTATION TO OUR EVALUATION COMMITTEE MEMBERS, IT ALSO PROVIDED YOUR COMMITTEE MEMBERS AN OPPORTUNITY TO ASK QUESTIONS OF EACH AGENCY, CLARIFY THINGS WE'VE READ IN THE SUBMITTAL WE THOUGHT WAS MAYBE UNCLEAR TO EACH OF US AND WE HAD GREAT VALUE COME OUT OF THAT COMMITTEE MEETING, REVIEWING BEING THE SUBMITTALS. 
          IN ADDITION TO THE INTERVIEW PROCESS WE COMPLETED AS A GROUP A STANDARDIZED REFERENCE CHECK QUESTIONNAIRE. 
          WE DISTRIBUTE THEY'D REFERENCE CHECK QUESTIONNAIRE OUT TO INDIVIDUALS WHO HAVE A CURRENT RELATIONSHIP WITH ALL THE SUBMITTING AGENCIES. SO IN THEIR PREVIOUS WORK EXPERIENCE OR ONGOING WORK EXPERIENCE IN THEIR SUBMITTALS WE REACHED OUT TO THOSE AGENCIES AND THEIR CONTEXT TO ASK THEM THE SAME QUESTIONS ABOUT THE SERVICES THEY'RE RECEIVING FROM EACH SUBMITTING AGENCY. WE GOT AS YOU NOTED PROBABLY IN MY NOTES, WE HAD SOME GOOD INFORMATION HAD FOLLOW UP PHONE CALLS, TO MAKE SURE EVERYTHING CHECKED OUT. 
          AFTER A LONG AMOUNT OF TIME REVIEWING THE SUBMITTALS AND AFTER OUR INTERVIEW PROCESS WE CAME TOGETHER AND COMBINED OUR SCORING INDIVIDUALLY TO PROVIDE A COMBINED SCORING THAT YOU HAVE IN YOUR PACKET WHICH SHOWS THAT OASIS MANAGEMENT WAS THE RECOMMENDED SELECTION FRET EVALUATION COMMITTEE. 
          FOUNDERS 3 WE FELT WAS A CLOSE SECOND. 
          MANY OF US FELT AS THOUGH FOUNDERS 3 PROVIDED A STRONG PROPOSAL SO WHEN WE CAME TOGETHER TO HAVE OUR SCORING MEETING OUR RECOMMENDATION WAS ACTUALLY TO RECOMMEND FROM THE FIVE AGENCIES THAT WE WERE SCORING THE HIGHEST SCORE TO BE OASIS WITH THE BACKUP OPTION OF SELECTING FOUNDERS 3 IF YOUR NEGOTIATION WITH OASIS WAS NOT SUCCESSFUL. 
          WE PROVIDE THEY'D AS THE ACTUAL RECOMMENDATION AS THE SCORING COMMITTEE. WE TOOK THAT RECOMMENDATION OVER TO THE MARINA ADVISORY BOARD, THEY PROVIDED THEIR OWN RECOMMENDATION WHICH I BELIEVE YOU ALSO MAY BE AWARE OF WHICH IS TO MAINTAIN RELATIONSHIP WITH WESTREC FOR A YEAR AFTER THE MARINA IS OPERATIONAL. THAT IS THE INFORMATION YOU HAVE IN THE PACKET. I BELIEVE YOU HAVE SOME NOTES FROM PAULINE AND MYSELF, FROM OUR REVIEW. 
          I'M HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE. 
          >> THANK YOU SIR. DO I HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR A 
          MOTION? >> I MOVE TO APPROVE. 
          >> I SECOND. >> COMMISSIONER ROSS, YOU ARE 
          RECOGNIZED. >> ARE THERE ANY PUBLIC 
          COMMENTS? >> YES. 
          >> COULD YOU PUT UP THAT ONE SLIDE, THE ONE ABOUT -- IS OT THE MAINTENANCE ONE, THE OTHER ONE. 
          YES, THAT'S THE ONE. SO THE CURRENT MANAGEMENT HAS 
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BEEN IN PLACE FOR APPROXIMTELY TEN YEARS. 
          I THINK THEY HAVE A GOOD WORKFORCE, A VERY DEDICATED EMPLOYEES. MY COLONEL IS WITH THE LOCAL AND CORPORATE MANAGEMENT OF THOSE EMPLOYEES. 
          I HAVE TWO MAJOR CONCERNS. NEITHER OF THESE CONCERNS WERE ARRESTED BY THE MARINA ADVISORY BOARD. 
          THE FIRST IS MAINTENANCE. BACK IN WHAT WAS IT NOVEMBER AND I'M NOT GOING TO GO THROUGH IT AGAIN I GAVE A SLIDE SHOW SHOWING MAINTENANCE ISSUES. THOSE WERE NOT ADDRESSED. 
          THEY WERE ADDRESSED EVENTUALLY BUT IT TOOK A WHILE. 
          AND ONE OF THOSE, THE ONE THAT CONCERNED ME THAT I THOUGHT WAS VERY TELLING IS THERE WERE FIRE EXTINGUISHERS THAT WERE OUT OF DATE AND THE PHONE NUMBER OF WHO TO CALL WAS RIGHT THERE ON THE FIRE EXTINGUISHER. ALL THEY HAD TO DO WAS CALL THE COMPANY AND IT TOOK SIX WEEKS MORE OR LESS. 
          THE MOORING FIELD IS FALLING APART WHILE THE MARINA WAS CLOSED. I DON'T THINK THAT WAS APPROPRIATE. THE NORTHERN DOCKS WERE NOT TAKEN CARE OF AND EVENTUALLY IT'S COST US MORE MONEY TO FIX THOSE WHEN THEY'RE BEING FIXED NOW. 
          SO I THINK WE NEED A NEW COMPANY WHO'S GOING TO DO BETTER MAINTENANCE. MY SECOND CONCERN IS MARKETING. 
          AND YOU COULD GO THROUGH NEXT SLIDE. 
          THIS WAS -- THIS COMES RIGHT OFF THE FERNANDINA HARBOR MARINA. 
          THIS CAME OFF WESTREC'S -- I WENT DOWN TO WESTREC'S WEBSITE, I PUNCHED IN FLORIDA, FERNANDINA HARBOR MARINA COMES UP AND THE FIRST SLIDE IS THIS, THIS IS FROM THREE DAYS AGO, OR WHENEVER IT WAS COUPLE DAYS AGO. IT'S STILL PICTURES OF THE OLD MARINA. I MEAN THEY HAVEN'T EVEN CHANGED THE NEW MARINA. YOU GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE. 
          AND AGAIN YOU CAN SEE IT'S THE OLD MARINA AGAIN, THE OLD MARINA. THEY HAVEN'T EVEN UPDATED THEIR WEBSITE FOR MARKETING. AGAIN THE OLD MARINA AND THEN THIS, NEWS, NOTICE THE DATE ON THIS I YOU CAN'T READ IT BUT 
          IT'S JUNE OF -- >> 2019. 
          >> WHAT YEAR? >> 2019. 
          >> 2019. THAT'S THE LATEST CLIP ON NEWS. 
          THERE WAS NO ON THEIR WEBSITE, NO NEWS THAT WE HADN'T -- NEW OPEN MARINA, COME ON, SEE US, I MEAN THAT WASN'T EVEN ON THEIR WEBSITE. I THINK THAT IS THE LAST SLIDE IS IT NOT? OH AND THEN THIS IS THE NILE, 27 OF AUGUST, 2020 AND IF YOU NOTICE IT IS A FUEL ODOCK AND IT ISN'T EVEN CORRECT INFORMATION. IT WILL OPEN JULY 2020, JULY 2020 IS COME AND GONE AND WE CAN'T EVEN KEEP OUR OWN WEBSITE UP TO DATE. SO ANOTHER CONCERN I HAVE IS THAT THEY DON'T USE SNAG A SLIP OR DOCK AWAY OR RESERVATION SERVICES THAT CAN BE USED, THAT ARE VERY POPULAR AND WE DON'T DO THAT. SO, AND FINALLY THAT WE DON'T NEGOTIATE DEPENDING ON HOW FULL THE MARINA IS, THE FLEXIBLE FUNDING. I THINK IT'S TIME TO AGGRESSIVELY MARKET THE MARINA I THINK WE CAN DO BETTER AND I'M GOING TO VOTE FOR A -- I THINK IT'S TIME FOR A CHANGE AND I'M GOING TO VOTE TO SUPPORT CHANGING TO WESTREC -- I MEAN TO 
          EXCUSE ME, OASIS. >> VICE MAYOR KREGER. 
          >> FIRST OF ALL, I'D LIKE TO COMPLIMENT THE COMMITTEE ON THE THOROUGHNESS AND POINT OUT THAT THIS IS AN EXAMPLE OF HOW WE'RE SUPPOSED TO DO STUFF. YOU KNOW, AND THIS IS WHAT WE NEED TO BE DOING WITH ALL OF OUR RFQS, ALL OUR RFPS BECAUSE THIS IS OUR PURCHASING POLICY WHICH IS AN EXCELLENT POLICY SAYS. 
          IF THIS WOULD HAVE GONE AROUND THE FIRST TIME, THE RESULTS WOULD HAVE BEEN THE SAME. SO I WILL SUPPORT THIS. 
          >> THANK YOU SIR. COMMISSIONER LEDNOVICH. 
          >> I HAVE A COUPLE OF THINGS TO SAY. 
          ONE VICE MAYOR KREGER IS CORRECT. 
          THIS HAS BEEN A CONVOLUTED, MUDDIED PROCESS. 
          A FLAWED, AND I WAS A PARTICIPANT IN THAT. 
          IT WILL FALL ON MY SWORD AND MY ROLE ON THAT AND VICE MAYOR KREGER WAS CORRECT WHEN HE SAT NEXT TO ME AND SAID WE'RE NOT FOLLOWING THE PROCESS. FORTUNATELY WE RECOGNIZED OUR ERROR AND STEPPED BACK AND CORRECTED IT AND FOLLOWED A GOOD PROCESS. SO I'M GOING TO SUPPORT THIS. 
          THE SECOND THING THAT I WANT TO POINT OUT IS, BOTH COMMISSIONER ROSS AND I WERE AT THE MARINA ADVISORY BOARD. 
          AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I RECOGNIZE THAT HAPPENS WITH OUR ADVISORY BOARDS AND COMMITTEES, IS THAT OFTENTIMES THEY TRAIL 
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US. WHAT DO I MEAN BY THAT? WE TAKE ACTION BEFORE -- ESPECIALLY THAT BODY BECAUSE THEY MEET AT THE VERY LAST MONDAY OF THE MONTH. 
          SO WE'RE TAKING ACTION AND WE'RE DOING THINGS MARINA-WISE THAT THEY'RE NOT AWARE OF. NOR DO WE HAVE TIME TO PULL THEM IN TO THE CONVERSATION. THAT'S VERY FRUSTRATING FOR THEM. I UNDERSTAND THAT. 
          BUT I WOULD ALSO LIKE MY FOAM COMY FELLOWCOMMISSIONERS TO UNDT THEY VOTED TO KEEP WESTREC A YEAR. 
          AND IF MY UNDERSTANDING IS CORRECT, THEY DID NOT EVEN VOTE 
          ON YOUR RECOMMENDATION. >> THEY CONSIDERED IT. 
          >> THEY CONSIDERED IT. >> THEY REITERATED THEIR VOTE 
          FROM FEBRUARY. >> CORRECT. 
          SO THEY DIDN'T EVEN TAKE EVALUATION THAT WAS DONE BY THIS GROUP. AND AGAIN YOU DID GREAT WORK. 
          AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR WORK. BUT WENT BACK AND WANTED TO KEEP WESTREC FOR ANOTHER YEAR. I WANTED TO BRING THAT POINT UP TO THIS GROUP. I STILL FAVOR OASIS. 
          I FAVOR OASIS BECAUSE THEY'RE CREATING SOME EXCITEMENT. 
          THEY HAVE A BOATING MAGAZINE. ARE YOU OKAY? 
          >> PIECE OF THREAD COMING OUT -- >> YES, THEY HAVE A VOTING MAGAZINE. THEY HAVE TECHNOLOGY WHERE YOU CAN BOOK A SLIP ANYWHERE IN THE UNITED STATES. 
          THEY HAVE A TRACK RECORD OF IMPROVING PROFITS, AS THEY SAID, AT THE TIME MARINA ADVISORY BOARD, WITH BRAND-NEW MARINAS THEY HAVE JUST TAKEN OVER. I WAS -- I DID BUSINESS CONSULTING FOR 20 YEARS. WHEN YOU ARE ON THE VERGE OF LOSING A CLIENT, YOU FIGHT TO KEEP THAT CLIENT. 
          I DON'T HAVE ANY FEELING FROM WESTREC, THEY'RE FIGHTING TO KEEP OUR BUSINESS. I JUST DON'T HAVE THAT FEELING FROM THEM. SO IT'S TIME FOR A CHANGE. 
          AND I SUPPORT THIS. >> THANK YOU SIR. 
          BEFORE I CALL THE VOTE I JUST WANT TO SAY IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S GOING TO GO THAT DIRECTION BUT I KNOW THE SECOND LINE AFTER THE FRIENDS ROMANS COUNTRYMEN LEND ME YOUR EARS, I THINK THAT'S KIND OF LOOKING AT HERE. SO I DO WANT TO SPEAK TO WESTREC, I SEE THAT YOU'RE HERE SIR THAT WHEN YOU TOOK THIS CONTRACT AWAY FROM THE CITY THE MARINA NEEDED A LOT OF HELP AND 
          YOU GUYS BROUGHT. >> A LOT OF HELP. 
          THE ELECTRICAL BOXES WERE DECAYED AND DANGEROUS, YOU FIXED THAT. DAY-TO-DAY OCCURRENCES, RECOVERY FROM THE STORM, WHAT JOE DID AFTER MATTHEW, I THINK YOU GUYS DID A FANTASTIC JOB SO I WANT DO THANK YOU FOR THE SERVICES YOU'VE GIVEN TO THE CITY. IT'S COME A LONG WAY FROM WHEN IT WAS BEFORE YOU CAME HERE, THANK YOU VERY MUCH AND I REALLY APPRECIATE WHAT YOU DID FOR OUR MARINA. 
          >> MR. MAYOR, POINTS OF ORDER, PARDON MY HAD INTERRUPTION. 
          IN THE PACKET THERE IS TWO RESOLUTIONS HERE, ONE SAYS A LITTLE DIFFERENT, AMENDED, THAT'S BECAUSE THE EVALUATION COMMITTEE RECOMMENDED JUST TO COVER OIF FOR SOME REASON THAT OASIS IS NUMBER 1 IN THE RANKING, FOUNDERS 3 IS NUMBER 2, AND THAT YOU AUTHORIZE THE CITY MANAGER AND CITY ATTORNEY TO BEGIN NEGOTIATIONS WITH OASIS AND SHOULD WE NOT BE ABLE TO COME TO AN AGREEMENT AND WE WALK AWAY, AT SOME TIME OF IMPASSE OR NOT AGREEING THAT YOU AUTHORIZE US TO BEGIN NEGOTIATIONS WITH FOUNDERS 3. AND TO BRING YOU A CONTRACT WITH 
          ONE OF THOSE GO FIRMS. >> UNDERSTOOD. 
          THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER CHAPMAN. 
          >> I'VE CHANGED MY MIND, I RETHOUGHT THE QUESTION. 
          >> SEEING NO LIGHTS, CITY CLERK CALL THE QUESTION. 
          >> COMMISSIONER LEDNOVICH, YES, COMMISSIONER ROSS, YES, VICE 
          [7.3 AWARD OF RFP #2020-04 - MCCALL TREE HEALTH AND CONSULTING, LLC, CASH'S TREE SERVICE LLC, FIRST COAST URBAN FORESTRY LLC, DAVEY RESOURCE GROUP, INC., AND GAGE TREE CARE]
MAYOR KREGER, YES, COMP COMMISSIONER CHAPMAN, YES, MAYOR MILLER. YES. 
          >> THIS IS 7.3 AWARD OF RFP #2020-04 - MCCALL TREE HEALTH AND CONSULTING, LLC, CASH'S TREE SERVICE LLC, FIRST COAST URBAN FORESTRY LLC, DAVEY RESOURCE GROUP, INC., AND GAGE TREE CARE - RESOLUTION 2020-116 AWARDING RFP #2020-04 AWARDING RFP #2020-04 TO MCCALL TREE HEALTH AND CONSULTING, LLC, CASH'S TREE SERVICE LLC, FIRST COAST URBAN FORESTRY LLC, DAVEY RESOURCE GROUP INC., AND GAGE TREE CARE; AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO PREPARE PROFESSIONAL SERVICES AGREEMENTS FOR SAME; AUTHORIZING EXECUTION; AND 
          PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DAT >> THIS WAS PREVIOUSLY ON OUR AGENDA BUT IT WAS HELD BACK. WHAT IS RECOMMENDED BY STAFF IS THE INTENT BEHIND THIS IS TO HAVE A POOL OF ARBORISTS TO HELP THE CITY SUPPORT THE RECENT REVISIONS TO THE TREE ORDINANCE WHICH REQUIRE AN ONSITE ARBORIST WHENEVER YOU'RE DOING TREE 
          [02:10:02]
CLEARING ACTIVITIES. SEEING AS WE ONLY HAVE ONE ARBORIST ON STAFF THE INTENT IS DO HAVE A POOL THAT WE CAN CALL ON WHEN IT EXCEEDS THE CAPABILITIES OF OUR CITY'S ARBORIST. SO STAFFER RECOMMENDS APPROVAL, THIS CREATES LIKE I SAID A POOL OF APPROXIMATELY EIGHT ARBOR IS, SPREAD OVER FIVE DIFFERENT FIRMS WHEN DEVELOPERS OR CONTRACTORS WANT TO DO SITE CLEARING ACTIVITIES. 
          THIS IS AT CITY EXPENSE. SO THIS CAN CREATES A POOL AND 
          STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL. >> THANK YOU SIR. 
          >> RECOMMEND APPROVAL. >> I'LL SECOND. 
          >> I HAVE A MOTION AND SECOND. COMMISSIONER LEDNOVICH YOU'RE 
          RECOGNIZED SIR. >> I JUST HAVE A QUESTION OF THE CITY MANAGER. WHEN THIS WAS ON THE AGENDA, PREVIOUSLY, AND I WAS READING IT, WASN'T THE FIRST GO ROUND WE WERE SELECTING ONE? NO? 
          WE WERE SELECTING -- OKAY. >> BUT LET ME CLARIFY. 
          THE WAY THAT THE REQUEST FOR QUALIFICATION WAS PUBLISHED, LED TO THE IMPRESSION THAT ONE VENDOR WOULD BE SELECTED. 
          THE INTENT WAS THAT THERE WOULD BE ACTUALLY, IF THEY WERE CERTIFIED ARBORISTS THAT THEY WOULD BE INCLUDED IN THE POOL. 
          >> OKAY. AND MY SECOND QUESTION IS, IS THE SELECTION OF WHICH ARBORIST GOES TO THE SITE BASED ON 
          AVAILABILITY ON IN THIS ORDER? >> PROBABLY A COMBINATION OF THE TWO. I THINK IT WILL BE THE BEST -- BECAUSE AS YOU CAN SEE IN THE REQUEST FOR THE PROPOSALS, IS IT RANGES IN COST FROM ROUGHLY $30 AN HOUR TO $100 AN HOUR AND THE INTENT WOULD BE LET'S START WITH WHAT IS IN THE BEST INTEREST OF THE CITY WHICH IS THE LOWEST COST AND PROCEED FROM THERE. 
          >> THANK YOU. >> VICE MAYOR KREGER. 
          >> YES, LOWEST COST FIRST. >> THANK YOU. 
          AND MADAM CLERK IF YOU COULD PLEASE CALL THE VOTE MA'AM. 
          >> VICE MAYOR KREGER, YES, COMMISSIONER LEDNOVICH, YES, COMMISSIONER CHAPMAN, YES, COMMISSIONER ROSS, YES, MAYOR 
          [7.4 AGREEMENT NEGOTIATION - RFQ #2020-01]
MILLER. YES. 
          ITEM 7.4 THIS IS AGREEMENT NEGOTIATION OFOR RFQ 2020-01. 
          >> I WAS OUT OF ORDER. INCLUDED IN THE BUDGET DISCUSSIONS WERE THE CITY PUBLISHED RFQ 2020-01 FOR CITY HALL ASSESSMENT DESIGN PROJECT. SIX FIRMS SUBMITTED A RESPONSE. 
          WE COMPLETED AN EVALUATION TEAM MR. SAL COMELLA AND MR. JEREMIAH GLISSAN, WE RECEIVED SIX FIRMS SUBMITTED THEIR LIST OF QUALIFICATIONS, CITY STAFF OR THE EVALUATION TEAM AS RECOMMENDED THE FOLLOWING RANKING, SILING ARCHITECTS, LS 3P ASSOCIATES, PASSERO ASSOCIATES, BHIDE AND HALL ARCHITECTS. STAFF ARE RECOMMENDS APPROVAL TO ALLOW THE CITY ATTORNEY AND CITY MANAGER TO ENTER INTO A NEGOTIATION WITH SILING ARCHITECTS. 
          THERE WAS NEEDS ASSESSMENT, SITE ASSESSMENT AND THEN ACTUAL DESIGN. WE'VE SCALED BACK, WE HAVE ELIMINATED THE DESIGN COMPONENT. I DON'T FORESEE THAT EFFORT MOVING FORWARD IN THE NEAR FUTURE BUT AT LEAST WE CAN DO AN EVALUATION OF THIS BUILDING AND DETERMINE IF THERE'S NEEDS TO CONSOLIDATE CITY STAFF. SO IT'S LIMITED TO ONLY THOSE TWO COMPONENTS. NEEDS ASSESSMENT AND SITE 
          ASSESSMENT. >> THANK YOU. 
          MR. ROSS YOU'RE RECOGNIZED SIR. >> YES, I CALLED THE -- I GAVE SILING, I GAVE SOME REFERRALS AND I CALLED CITY HALL THEY DID RENOVATIONS FOR THE CITY OF MARTINSBURG, WEST VIRGINIA, THIS IS THE SECOND PROJECT WITH THEM OVER THE LAST FOUR OR FIVE YEARS, THEY WERE VERY IMPRESSED, THEY HAD A VERY GOOD WORKING RELATIONSHIP, THOUGHT THEY WERE A GOOD FIRM, DID A NEEDS ASSESSMENT AND THINK HIGHLY RECOMMENDED THEM. 
          I THINK WHAT YOU NEED, THIS BUILDING IS -- HAS PROBLEMS. WE NEED AN ASSESSMENT WHAT WE NEED FOR STAFF AND THEN WE NEAT A SITE ASSESSMENT TO FIGURE OUT WHAT WE CAN DO WITH THIS BUILDING, GOING FORWARD WE ARE NOT GOING TO DO THAT IN THE NEAR FUTURE BUT WE NEED TO BEGIN PLANNING WHAT WE NEED TO DO GOING FORWARD AND THIS IS THE FIRST STEP. 
          AND LIKE MARTINSBURG WEST VIRGINIA IT TOOK THEM A NUMBER OF YEARS TO GO FORWARD WITH THEIR PROJECTS SO I'M GOING TO 
          MOVE TO APPROVE. >> THANK YOU SIR, COMMISSIONER 
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          LEDNOVICH YOU'RE RECOGNIZED SIR. >> WE NEED A SECOND. 
          MR. MAYOR. >> THAT'S WHAT I -- 
          >> I'M WAITING FOR A SECOND. >> I'LL SECOND IT. 
          >> OKAY, COMMISSIONER LEDNOVICH YOU'RE RECOGNIZED SIR. 
          >> THANK YOU. MGM INTERNATIONAL IS LAYING OFF 18,000 PEOPLE. AMERICAN AIRLINES AT THE END OF THIS MONTH IS LAYING OFF 17,000 PEOPLE. 
          CHAMBER OF COMMERCE JUST RELEASED THE UNEMPLOYMENT FIGURES FOR NASSAU COUNTY, UNEMPOYMENT IS 15%. 
          MY POSITION ON NEXT YEAR'S BUDGET HAS BEEN TO GO TO THE ROLL-BACK RATE. THE OPTICS OF DOING THIS IS TERRIBLE. JUST THE PERCEPTION THAT WE WOULD EVEN CONSIDER BUILDING A NEW CITY HALL OR EVEN DEMONSTRATE THE NEED FOR A NEW CITY HALL, WHEN WE'RE ABOUT TO GO OVER THE EDGE FINANCIALLY, AS A COUNTRY, AS A STATE, AND AS A COUNTY, AND AS A CITY, SO I WILL NOT BE SUPPORTING THIS. 
          WE SHOULD NOT BE SPENDING A DIME, WHEN WE'RE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO GET TO THE ADJUSTED ROLL-BACK RATE WHEN WE'RE DIPPING INTO THE CITY RESERVES, HOW DO WE LOOK AT OUR FELLOW CITIZENS IN THE EYE, AND SAY YOU KNOW WHAT, BOY, WE NEED TO HIRE A CONSULTANT TO TELL US WHETHER WE NEED A NEW CITY HALL. 
          THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU SIR. 
          VICE MAYOR KREGER. >> I WON'T SUPPORT THIS FOR A COUPLE OF REASONS. ONE IS THE BUDGETARY ISSUE AND WHEN WE'RE DOING IT. MORE IMPORTANT AS IMPORTANT IS WE JUST SPENT A WHOLE BUNCH OF MOID REMODELING THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT. WE'RE GOING TO PUT A NEW ROOF ON THIS IN THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN THIS YEAR. 
          PECK CENTER WE'RE GOING TO SPEND $750,000 TUCK POINTING, AND 750,000 NEXT YEAR. IT'S AN EXCELLENT FACILITY. 
          IT SEEMS TO ME WITH THESE TWO FACILITIES WE HAVE ALL WE NEED RIGHT NOW, YOU KNOW, TO OPERATE THE CITY HALL. 
          THE CITY HALL IS GOING TO STAY HERE, I MEAN CHEM THAT'S WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN. IT'S GOING TO STAY AN HISTORIC DISTRICT. I THINK THAT DECISION BASICALLY BEEN MADE WHEN WE MADE THESE THINGS SO I WON'T SUPPORT IT. 
          I DON'T THINK THIS IS THE TIME AND I DON'T THINK THIS IS A NEED. I THINK WE HAVE AMPLE QUALIFIED STAFF TO DETERMINE WHO WE CAN MOVE WHERE. 
          AND WHERE WE CAN BE EFFECTIVE. I GOT SOME IDEAS BUT I'M NOT 
          GOING TO BRING THEM UP. >> COMMISSIONER ROSS. 
          >> I'M LOOKING AT THIS NOT SO MUCH AS A NEEDS ASSESSMENT BUT A SITE ASSESSMENT. THIS BUILDING IS FALLING DOWN. 
          AND I DON'T THINK THAT WE DO NEED A NEW CITY HALL BUT I THINK WE NEED A WAY FORWARD OF HOW TO FIX THIS BUILDING. 
          AND THIS BUILDING NEEDS HELP. IT'S DELAMINATING. 
          IT HAS ALL KINDS OF ISSUES. AND WE NEED TO KNOW EXACTLY WHAT WE CAN AND CANNOT DO WITH THIS BUILDING. 
          I'M NOT ADVOCATING BUILDING A NEW CITY HALL. 
          I'M ADVOCATING FIGURING OUT WHAT WE DO WITH THIS BUILDING, THIS IS THE FIRST STEP AROUND I WOULD HOPE THAT IS WHAT THE CITY 
          MANAGER WOULD DO. >> COMMISSIONER LEDNOVICH. 
          VICE MAYOR YOUR LIGHT AWAY STILL ON. 
          OKAY. COMMISSIONER LEDNOVICH. 
          >> SO INSTEAD OF A NEEDS ASSESSMENT, AND SITE ASSESSMENTS, WHY DON'T WE LIMIT THIS TO HOW WE RECONFIGURE THIS BUILDING AND PECK CENTER, INSTEAD OF GOING THE FULL MONTE, IT'S $50,000, IS THAT CORRECT CITY MANAGER? 
          >> THAT IS WHAT IS IN THE BUDGET BUT WE HAVE YET TO NEGOTIATE A CONTRACT WITH THE SELECTED ARCHITECT PENDING YOUR APPROVAL. 
          GOOD THANK YOU. VICE MAYOR. 
          >> I THINK WHAT CHIP IS SAYING, HE IS LOOKING AT MORE ENGINEERING ASSESSMENT OF THE STRUCTURE AND THIS FACILITY. 
          I THINK WE CAN DO THAT WITHOUT, YOU KNOW, YOU START OUT WITH OUR STAFF, WE PIECEMEAL A LOT OF STUFF HERE. 
          I BELIEVE THERE'S SOME STUCCO IN THE PLAN, TOO. 
          >> THAT WAS CUT OUT OF THE BUDGET. 
          >> AS FAR AS YOU KNOW, I DON'T -- I THINK OUR STAFF CAN ADEQUATELY DETERMINE, IT'S ALMOST A NO BRAINER WHO YOU'D MOVE OUT OF HERE. I MEAN YOU TAKE PERSONNEL AND MOVE THEM OUT, YOU KEEP PLANNING AND YOU KEEP -- YOU KNOW, WE JUST SPENT -- HOW MUCH DID WE SPEND FOR THE BUILDING 
          DEPARTMENT? >> I'D HAVE TO GO BACK AND LOOK. 
          >> IT'S DEDICATED MONEY BUT IT'S A SIGNIFICANT REMODEL TO PUT A ROOF ON. I DON'T THINK WE NEED TO DO THIS AT ALL AT THIS POINT. THAT'S MY OPINION. 
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I DO THINK THAT AS WE GO ON WE NEED TO LOOK AT ENGINEERING WHAT WE CAN DO AND WE HAVE STAFF TO LOOK AT THAT. 
          AND YOU KNOW. >> COMMISSIONER CHAPMAN. 
          >> I HAVE VERY MIXED FEELINGS ABOUT THIS BUT I DO FEEL IT WOULD END UP BEING MONEY WELL SPENT. 
          WE HAVE TO PLAN FOR THE FUTURE EVEN THOUGH THE PRESENT MAY NOT BE THE BRIGHTEST IN THE WORLD. IF YOU LOOK AROUND, HOME SALES ON THIS ISLAND ARE BOOMING. CONSTRUCTION IS BOOMING. 
          SO WHILE YES, THERE ARE A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO ARE HURTING, THERE IS STILL A LOT OF CONSTRUCTION THAT'S GOING ON. 
          AND I THINK THAT ALLOWING US TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS GIVES US AN OPPORTUNITY TO KNOW WHERE WE'RE GOING. 
          I MEAN, WE DIDN'T LOOK AT BEACH WALKOVERS FOR YEARS UNTIL ALL OF A SUDDEN, THEY ALL STARTED COLLAPSING. 
          SO -- AND WE GOT CRITICIZED FOR THAT. 
          ARE WE DOING THE SAME THING WITH THIS STRUCTURE, ARE WE LETTING IT DETERIORATE TO THE POINT WHERE THE BUILDING INSPECTOR SAYS I'M CONDEMNING THE BUILDING AND I'M EXAGGERATING, BUT I THINK IF WE WANT TO PLAN FOR THE FUTURE, AND ALL WE'RE DOING IS SAYING GIVE US THE INFORMATION. TELL US WHAT WE NEED TO DO SO WE CAN MOVE FORWARD, WE CAN PLAN. IT'S NOT LIKE NEXT YEAR IN THE BUDGET WE'RE GOING TO REBUILD THIS PLACE. 
          I WILL SUPPORT THIS EVEN THOUGH I DO HAVE VERY MIXED FEELINGS 
          ABOUT IT. >> COMMISSIONER ROSS. 
          >> IS I WANT TO MAKE IT PERFECTLY CLEAR. 
          I'M NOT SUPPORTING BUILDING A NEW CITY HALL. 
          PERFECTLY CLEAR. BUT I DO BELIEVE WE NEED AND I ALSO WOULD TAKE ASOMEWHAT -- I WOULDN'T AGREE WE HAVE THE STAFF. WE NEED EXPERTS TO COME IN WITH ENGINEERING SKILLS AND ARCHITECTURAL SKILLS THAT I DON'T BELIEVE THE CITY STAFF HAS. 
          THE CITY STAFF IS A GOOD THING. IT'S LIKE WORKING IN THE EMERGENCY ROOM, SOMETHING COMES IN, I HAVE A GENERAL IDEA WHAT TO DO BUT WHEN I CALL THE NEUROSURGEON OR WHOEVER IT IS, THEY KNOW, THIS IS BOOM BOOM BOOM, THIS IS THE STUFF. 
          I'M IN SUPPORT OF A PROFESSIONAL, WHAT DO WE NEED FOR THIS BUILDING, HOW CAN WE USE IT TO GO FORWARD FOR THE NEXT FIVE, TEN, 15, 20 YEARS. THAT'S WHY I'M GOING TO SUPPORT 
          THIS. >> COMMISSIONER LEDNOVICH. 
          >> I'M NOT GOING TO CHANGE ANYONE'S MIND ON THE VOTE BUT I'M GOING TO SAY THIS ANYWAY. WE HAVE A VERY FLAWED PROCESS IN HIRING CONSULTANTS. AND WHAT DO I MEAN BY THAT? THE COLUMN VARIABLE WHICH WE TALKED ABOUT PREVIOUSLY IN OUR BUDGETS MEETINGS. PHASE 1 OF THAT IS $250,000. 
          IT'S NOT IN ANY EXAT CAPITAL PL, THAT AMOUNT OF MONEY. 
          WE DON'T HAVE THE MONEY TO DO PHASE 1. 
          WHAT WAS IN THE CAPITAL PLAN WAS $50,000. 
          >> 85. >> OKAY, 85, THANK YOU. 
          BUT HERE'S THE FACTS. WE SPENT $16,000 ON A CONSULTANT WHO GAVE US VERY NICE DRAWINGS, VERY NICE PLAN. 
          AND THE PLAN TO BUILD IT. BUT WE HIRE CONSULTANTS, WE SPEND TAXPAYER MONEY WHEN WE DON'T HAVE THE MONEY TO BUILD THE PROJECT. WE DO IT OVER AND OVER AND OVER AGAIN. WE DID IT ON THE WATERFRONT PARK WHEN WE SPENT HALF A MILLION DOLLARS ON ENGINEERING PLANS ON FRONT STREET AND THOSE PLANS ARE NOW GATHERING DUST IN THE CITY ARCHIVES. SO INSTEAD OF HIRING CONSULTANTS ON PROJECTS FOR WHICH WE DON'T HAVE THE FUNDS COMMITTED, WHY DON'T WE THINK ABOUT WHEN WE HAVE THE MONEY, THEN HIRE THE CONSULTANT. ANG NOT WASTE TAXPAYER MONEY ON CONSULTANTS. I HEAR THAT COMPLAINT OVER AND 
          OVER AND OVER AGAIN. >> COMMISSIONER ROSS. 
          >> I GUESS THE REASON IS TO FIGURE OUT HOW MUCH MONEY YOU GOT TO COME UP WITH. I THINK TALKING TO THE CITY MANAGER FROM MARTINSBURG, WEST VIRGINIA THEY HIRED THE FIRM LONG BEFORE THEY HAD THE MONEY TO KIND OF FIGURE OUT HERE'S WHAT WE NEED TO DO AND COME ONE A PLAN. 
          OR HERE IS WHERE -- HOW BAD IS THIS BUILDING? I MEAN HOW BAD IS IT? HOW MUCH MONEY DO YOU HAVE TO COME UP WITH? WHAT'S THE PLAN? I DON'T THINK WE HAVE THE EXPERTISE ON OUR STAFF TO DO THAT. I'M NOT SUGGESTING THAT WE NEED 
          [02:25:01]
CAN THIS HUGE STUDY BUT WE NEED SOME IDEA OF WHAT TO DO WITH THIS BUILDING AND HOW MUCH IT'S GOING TO COST AND THAT'S THE FIRST STEP IN COMING UP WITH LOOKING DOWN THE ROAD. 
          I MEAN TO WAIT UNTIL YOU HAVE THE MONEY WHICH YOU DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH MONEY IT IS BEFORE YOU HIRE SOMEBODY OR FIGURE OUT WHAT YOU NEED I THINK IS INAPPROPRIATE. 
          I THINK THE FIRST STEP IS TO DO SOMETHING ANALYSIS AND FIGURE OUT WHERE WE'RE GOING. ANY ROAD WILL GET YOU THERE IF YOU DON'T KNOW WHERE YOU'RE GOING AND I'M NOT GOING TO 
          CHANGE YOUR MIND. >> COMMISSIONER LEDNOVICH. 
          >> YOU'RE RIGHT, YOU GO BACK AND FORTH -- 
          >> I'M DONE. >> SHOULD WE NOT GO BACK AND 
          FORTH -- >> I'M DONE. 
          >> THE LAST POINT I MAKE IS WE HAVE ENOUGH EXPERTISE IN THIS CITY AND ON THIS STAFF FOR SOMEONE TO SAY TO FIX THIS BUILDING WOULD COST APPROXIMATELY X. 
          SO YOU COULD COME UP WITH AN APPROXIMATION THAT WOULD PUT YOU IN THE BALLPARK INSTEAD OF PAYING A CONSULTANT $50,000 WHEN WE DON'T EVEN KNOW WHEN WE COULD EVEN DO IT. 
          THANK YOU. >> MR. MAYOR COULD I -- 
          >> SIR. >> COUPLE OF COMMENTS. 
          FIRST AND FOREMOST, YOU ARE NOT AGREEING TO SPEND A PENNY TONIGHT. WHAT THIS RESOLUTION AUTHORIZES STAFF TO DO IS TO NEGOTIATE A CONTRACT WITH THE RECOMMENDED CONSULTANT AND THEN BRING THAT CONTRACT BACK TO YOU AND ONLY THEN WILL IT MOVE FORWARD. SO YOU ARE NOT VOTING TO SPEND ANY MONEY TONIGHT. ANY EFFORT, YOU KNOW, AND WHEN WE SIT DOWN, BASED UPON THE DISCUSSION WE HAD HERE, WE CAN LIMIT THE SCOPE AND COME BACK WITH A LA CARTE OPTIONS. 
          AND THE POINT AGAIN ABOUT THE COLUMNBARIUM, YES THAT IS HOW WE PLAN THE CAPITAL PLANNING. NOW WE KNOW WHAT TO BUDGET GOING FORWARD. THAT WILL BE INCLUDED IN FUTURE YEARS CAPITAL PLANS. BUT WE HAVE A STARTING POINT THAT IF YOU WANT TO PURSUE THIS PLAN WHICH THE COLUMNBARIUM HAS BEEN SUPPORTED BY SEVERAL ORGANIZATIONS IN THE CITY. 
          WE NOW HAVE A PLAN AND WE KNOW WHAT THE COST IS, SO IT WAS A TIMING ISSUE IN THAT THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN WAS PUT TOGETHER AS PART OF THE BUDGET CYCLE BEFORE WE GOT THE REPORT FROM THE CONSULTANT. SO NOW NEXT YEAR, GUESS WHAT WE INCLUDED IN THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN? PHASE 1 AND YOU AS THE COMMISSIONERS WILL DECIDE, DO WE GO FORWARD WITH THAT PLAN. BUT THAT'S HOW THE PROCESS GRINDS FORWARD AT A VERY SLOW RATE WITH A LOT OF SAND THROWN INTO THE GEARS. BUT YOU ARE NOT APPROVING ANY EXPENDITURE OF DOLLARS TONIGHT. ALL YOU'RE DOING IS CITY MANAGER AND CITY ATTORNEY NEGOTIATE WITH THE RECOMMENDED FIRM AND THEN BRING A CONTRACT BACK AND YOU CAN SAY, YOU KNOW, MAYBE THE ECONOMY DOESN'T IMPROVE AND YOU CAN SAY YOU KNOW WHAT WE'RE NOT GOING TO GO FORWARD WITH IT. OR IT MAY BE OF SUFFICIENT SCALE THAT YOU MAY WANT TO GO FORWARD WITH IT BUT YOU'RE NOT APPROVINGFULLY EXPENDITURE THISG ANY EXPENDITURE THIS EVENING. 
          >> IT SAYS FISCAL IMPACT NONE SO I TAKE THAT CONSIDERATION INTO MY VOTE. OKAY, I DON'T SEE ANY FURTHER LIGHTS ON SO MADAM CLERK IF YOU WOULD CALL THE VOTE PLEASE. 
          >> COMMISSIONER ROSS, YES, COMP, YES, COMMISSIONER LEDNOVICH, NO. 
          [7.5 CHANGE ORDER APPROVAL - MARINA UTILITIES, INC.]
VICE MAYOR KREGER, YES, MAYOR MILLER, YES. 
          ITEM 7.5 CAN, THIS IS A CHANGE ORDER APPROVAL FOR MARINA UTILITIES INC. CITY MANAGER. 
          >> THIS IS FOR THE RECOMMISSIONING AND UPGRADE OF PARTS NOT INCLUDED IN THE ORIGINAL SCOPE FOR THE RENOVATION OR RESTORATION OF THE FUEL DISPENSERS, THE DISPLAYS, THE MECHANICAL OPERATION AND SO FORTH ARE IF IN THE AMOUNT OF 
          $10,750. >> RECOMMEND APPROVAL. 
          >> SECOND. >> I HAVE A MOTION AND SECOND. 
          AND SEEING NO LIGHTS FOR DISCUSSION MADAM CLERK IF YOU 
          COULD PLEASE CALL THE VOTE SIR. >> VICE MAYOR KREGER. 
          80, COMMISSIONER ROSS, YES, COMMISSIONER CHAPMAN, YES, COMMISSIONER LEDNOVICH, YES, MAYOR MILLER. 
          [7.6 LOBBYING SERVICES AGREEMENT – JACOBS SCHOLZ & WYLER, LLC]
          YES. >> ITEM 7 MANY 6, THIS IS A LOBBYING SERVICES AGREEMENT WITH JACOBS SCHOLZ AND WYLER LLC. 
          >> THAT HE HAVE BEEN WORKING WITH THE CITY SINCE OCTOBER OF 2008. THEY HAVE BEEN EXCEPTIONALLY SUCCESSFUL IN ADVOCATING ON BEHALF OF THE CITY AT THE STATE LEVEL AND STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL OF THE ANNUAL CONTRACT 
          FOR THE COMING FISCAL YEAR. >> THANK YOU SIR. 
          >> RECOMMEND APPROVAL. >> SECOND IT. 
          >> I HAVE A MOTION AND SECOND. SEEING NO LIGHTS CALL THE VOTE. 
          >> VICE MAYOR KREGER, YES, CHK, YES, COMMISSIONER ROSS, YES, 
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          MAYOR MILLER. >> YES, I THINK WE CAN AGREE, ANYBODY WHO'S BEEN TO TALLAHASSEE, THIS IS MONEY WELL 
          [7.7 TEMPORARY EASEMENTS - UNITED STATES ARMY CORPS OF ENGINEERS (USACE)]
SPENT. 7.7 TEMPORARY EASEMENTS - UNITED STATES ARMY CORPS OF ENGINEERS MR. MANAGER. 
          >> IF ARMY CORPS OF JERSEY IS ASKING FOR A MORE FORMAL CONTRACT. WE HAVE ALLOWED THEM TO USE THE AREA AROUND DOLPHIN STREET AND THE DOLPHIN STREET ACCESS TO ACCESS THE BEACH AND STORE THEIR EQUIPMENT. 
          CITY ATTORNEY HAS CRAFTED A TEMPORARY EASEMENT FOR THAT SAME AREA. THE RENOURISHMENT FLOJTD YEAR IS TECHNICALLY NOT RENOURISHMENT PROJECT BUT PART OF THE NAVY PROJECT, SAND IS GOING TO FORT CLINCH. 
          AT AT THIS TIME, THE ARMY IS ESTIMATING THERE WILL BE EXCESSIVE SAND, STARTING FROM THE NORTHERN CITY LIMITS GOING AS FAR SOUTH AS THE SAND ALLOWS FOR BUT THEY REQUESTED A MORE FORMAL DOCUMENT THIS YEAR AND THE CITY ATTORNEY CRAFT THEY'D AND IT'S ACCEPTABLE TO THE CORPS OF ENGINEERS. 
          >> RECOMMEND APPROVAL. >> I'LL SECOND IT. 
          >> I HAVE A MOTION AND SECOND. MADAM CLERK PLEASE CALL THE VOTE 
          MA'AM. >> VICE MAYOR KREGER, YES, COMMISSIONER CHAPMAN, YES, COMMISSIONER ROSS, YES, COMMISSIONER LEDNOVICH, YES, MAYOR MILLER. 
          YES. >> MADAM CLERK JUST TO BE CLEAR THESE EASEMENTS WILL NOT BE RECORDED IN THE PUBLIC RECORDS BECAUSE THERE IS JUST SOME EXISTENCE FOR SUCH A PERIOD OF 
          TIME. >> ITEM 7.8, THIS IS A GRANT 
          [7.8 GRANT APPLICATION - FLORIDA DEPARTMENT OF ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTION (FDEP)]
APPLICATION FOR THE FLORIDA DEPARTMENT OF ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTION. CITY MANAGER. 
          >> THIS IS A MATTER YOU STARTED THE DISCUSSION ON THE CITY BEACHES, I KNOW MR. HOFF IS HERE THIS EVENING, I HAVE TO SPIN UP HIS PROPOSAL, MS. JACOBS IS HERE AS WELL. 
          WE NEED SOME DIRECTION AS TO WHERE WE'RE GOING TO GO WITH THIS RESILIENCY GRANT OR COASTAL PARTNERSHIP GRANT. 
          IF YOU WANT TO GO AHEAD MS. JACOBS WHILE I CALL THIS UP. 
          >> YES JUST TO SPEAK TO THIS BRIEFLY AND I WANT TO CLARIFY SOMETHING THAT HAPPENED DURING YOUR DISCUSSION PERIOD WITH MR. LEDNOVICH. 2 RESILIENCY GRANTS THE RIG CONTENT WAS IN YOUR DISCUSSION. THAT'S THE BIG ONE IT'S $500,000, IT HAS NO MATCHING REQUIREMENT. 
          IT'S DUE OCTOBER 9TH. AND WE HAD TWO PROJECTS THAT MERGED. DOING SOME SLICE IS OF THE DOWNTOWN WATERFRONT RESILIENCY. SO THAT WAS A DISCUSSION I WAS HOPING TO GET IN THAT SECTION. THIS GRANT THAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT NOW IS THE SMALL GRANT. THE $60,000 ONE. 
          AND THIS IS THE ONE THAT VICE MAYOR KREGER PRESENTED NOT EARLIER, IN THE OTHER SECTION. SO THIS ONE HAS 50% MATCH AND OR 100% MATCH, A ONE TO ONE MATCH. AND THERE IS $60,000 AVAILABLE 
          27TH. >> THANK YOU MA'AM. 
          >> I RECOMMEND APPROVAL THAT WE SUBMIT THIS. 
          >> I'LL SECOND IT. >> THANK YOU SIR. 
          ARE WE READY FOR THE PRESENTATION OF MR. HOFF. 
          >> I HAVE A PROPOSAL HERE, AND THAT WAS IN THE -- SHOULD HAVE GONE OUT TO YOU EARLIER BUT SOMEHOW DID NOT. 
          I CHANGED IT ANYHOW TO MAKE IT RELATIVE TO GRANT APPLICATIONS. 
          >> THANK YOU SIR. >> OKAY. 
          I WAS ORIGINALLY ASKED TO TALK ABOUT HOW TO BEST SOLVE THE PROBLEMS UP ON 8TH AVENUE. AND OF COURSE THAT IS PART OF WHAT THIS GRANT IS GOING TO BE. SO THERE ARE THREE BASIC PROBLEMS WITH WHAT'S GOING ON UP ON ADD IT AVENUE. 
          8TH AVENUE. >> I'M SORRY, MR. HOFF. 
          >> FRANK HOFF, 4653 JANELLA DRIVE OUTSIDE THE CITY LIMITS. 
          >> THANK YOU. >> THREE BASIC PROBLEMS. WE'VE GOT A LARGE, STEEP REVETMENT THAT BLOCKS PEOPLE'S ACCESS TO THE BEACH AND HAS FOR 50 YEARS NOW. 
          WE HAVE AN UNDERSIZED DUNE SYSTEM UP THERE. 
          THAT LEAVES THE ENTIRE AREA IN THE DP FEMA FLOOD PLANE. 
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FLOOD ZONE INCREASING THEIR INSURANCES AND HOPEFULLY, I SHOULDN'T SAY HOPEFULLY, ALSO INCREASING THEIR RISK. 
          OF FLOODING EACH TIME A HURRICANE COMES ALONG. 
          AND MANY AWANT TO EXPAND AND IMPROVE THE HABITAT FOR ENDANGERED SPECIES UP ON THE THE DUNE SYSTEM. 
          WHAT IS WRONG WITH THE DUNES AND WHAT IS WRONG WITH WHAT WE HAVE? I KNOW EXPERTS LIKE TO TALK DOWN TO PEOPLE SO-CALLED EXPERTS. 
          I HAVE TO CONFESS THAT AT AGE 60, I THOUGHT A DUNE WAS AN UNNECESSARY HINDRANCE TO GETTING TO THE BEACH. 
          AND I WAS QUITE SUCCESSFUL AT THAT POINT IN MY LIFE, HAVING SPENT A LOT OF TIME TAKING CARE OF LIVES BUT ANYWAY I RENT BACK TO PURSUE A PH.D, IN GEOGRAPHY, AND FELL IN WITH A BUNCH OF COASTAL GEOMORPHOLOGISTS AND A LOT OF THE WORLD'S DUNE EXPERTS I HAD A CHANCE TO RESEARCH WITH AND LIRN FROM. 
          AND THE BOTTOM LINE IS THAT I CAME OUT THEREOF WITH A PH.D. IN COASTAL GEOMORPHOLOGY, AND AM A BORN AGAIN DUNE LOVER. 
          AND SO I'VE GONE FROM SOMEONE WHO DOESN'T REALLY CARE ABOUT THE DUNES TO SOMEONE WHO IS VERY DEDICATED TO THEM. 
          AND IF YOU'RE UNDER 60 YOU STILL HAVE A CHANCE TO FOLLOW IN MY FOOTSTEPS. THE FIRST THING THAT'S IMPORTANT TO OUR DUNES IS THEY ARE OUR OWN PROTECTION FROM FLOOD WAVES FOR THIS CITY IN STORMS. WE DON'T HAVE ANY FLOOD WALLS PER SE OR ANY OTHER KIND OF PROTECTIVE DEVICES. 
          AND AS I SAID, FEMA FINDS THAT THE EXISTING DUNES ARE TOO SMALL TO PROTECT THE OCEAN AREA FROM THE HUNDRED YEAR STORM SURGE. 
          THE ARMY CORPSE OF ENGINEERS AND THE NASSAU COUNTY SHORE PROTECTION PROJECT ARE RELYING ON OUR DUNES TO PROVIDE RESILIENCY. THEY JUST FOUND THE DUNES A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO BUT INDEED THEY NOW CONSIDER THEM A VERY IMPORTANT PART OF OUR -- OF THEIR PROJECT. 
          PLUS, THE OCEAN AVENUE DUNES NOW HAVE HOLES IN THEM. 
          IT IS A PROBLEM. AND THAT, THOSE HOLES ARE BASICALLY WHERE WE HAVE PUBLIC ACCESSES TO THE BEACH, BEEN WORN DOWN BY PEOPLE CROSSING OVER. AND THAT THEY REDUCE THE VALUE FOR FLOOD PROTECTION, RESILIENCY AND EVERYTHING ELSE. 
          AND THE RELEVANT DUNE ALONG OCEAN AVENUE REPRESENTS A CONSIDERABLE HINDRANCE TO GETTING TO THE BEACH. 
          ONE OF THE REQUIREMENTS OF A DUNE WE MIGHT WANT TO HAVE UP THERE, FEMA HAS WHAT THEY CALL THE 5-40 RULE. 
          OUT OF THE FLOOD PLANE YOU HAVE TO HAVE 540 CUBIC FEET PER LINEAR FOOT ABOVE THE STILLWATER ELEVATION. 
          THE SAME WATER LEVEL THAT'S GOING TO FLOOD THE CITY HERE ON THE FRONT END. OUR SWELL ON AMELIA ISLAND IS ABOUT 8.8 FEET, 8.9 FEET. THE U.S. CORPS OF ENGINEERS IN THEIR REPORT REQUIRES A DUNE PROFILE FOR PROTECTION OF THE SHORE PROTECTION PROJECT OF ABOUT 320 CUBIC 72ND. 
          FOOT.MUCH LESS REQUIRED FOR RESILIENCY FOR THAT PROJECT THAN FEMA SEES FOR OUR FLOOD PROTECTION. 
          AND WE PROBABLY NEED ABOUT 100 TO 120 FOOT WIDE DUNE THAT IS VEGETATED TO PROVIDE A GOOD HABITAT FOR SOME OF OUR ENDANGERED SPECIES. NOW, HERE IS WHAT WE HAVE UP OFTEN TONTHE NORTH END OF THE C. THE STATE HAS BEEN RUNNING THESE CROSS SECTIONS AND WE'VE BEEN RUNNING THEM ALSO SINCE ABOUT THE 1850S OR SO. AND YOU CAN SEE AGAIN WE NEED TO GET 540 CUBIC FEET ABOVE THE SWELL LINE AND DID, THE DARK 
          [02:40:09]
BLACK LINE IS WHERE WE WERE BACK IN '74. 
          THE DASHED BLACK LINE IS WHERE WE ARE TODAY, OR WERE LAST JULY. 
          SO WE GO IN AND FIGURE OUT HOW MUCH VOLUME WE HAVE, ABOVE THE 5 OR THE 8.8 LEVEL. WE'RE PRETTY CLOSE ANOTHER 6. 
          GETTINGGETTGETTING OUT OF THE F. 548 FEET, WE JUST NEED 45 MORE. 
          THESE CALCULATIONS ARE HARD TO MAKE. 
          SOMEONE ELSE COULD CALCULATE THAT SLIGHTLY DIFFERENTLY. 
          BUT INDEED, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE, WE ARE CLOSE TO BEING ABLE TO GET THERE. THE PROBLEM IS, AS WE GO FURTHER NORTH UP ACCESS 9 AND 8, WE HAVE A BIGGER CHALLENGE, MORE DUNE TO GROW, IF WE'RE GOING DO GET OUT OF THE FLOOD PLANE. 
          NOW, THE GOOD NEWS FOR MOST OF THE CITY IS SOUTH OF SADLER EVERYTHING IS OUT OF THE FLOOD PLANE. 
          SOME OF THE DUNES DOWN THERE ARE IN EXCESS OF 1100 CUBIC FEET PER LINEAR FOOT. AND SO WE HAVE LESS ISSUE, THE FURTHER SOUTH WE GO IN THE CITY. OKAY. 
          SO THE CHALLENGE IS, OCEAN AVENUE DUNE SYSTEM IS VERY COMPLEX. THE BRIEF HISTORY, OF COURSE, WE ALMOST LOST OUR DUNES AND OUR BEACHES ONE WE BUILT THE JETTY, AND OUR DUNES ALMOST DISAPPEARED. 
          INDEED, WHEN DORA HIT BACK IN '64, IT JUST ABOUT DECIMATED THE NORTH END OF THE TOWN. DESTROYED EVERYTHING ON THE EAST SIDE OF OCEAN AVENUE. AND THAT'S WHAT OCEAN AVENUE LOOKED LIKE AT HIGH TIDE AFTER THE CORPS OF ENGINEERS BUILT THE REVETMENT TO HELP PROTECT. ABOUT 12 FOOT HIGH. 
          THE REVETMENT WAS BUILT TO PROTECT WHAT WAS LEFT THEN. 
          IN '74 THEY WERE TEARING UP THE OLD JACKS AIRPORT AND SO THE CITY WAS ABLE TO PROCURE ALL THE CONSTRUCTION DEBRIS TO RAISE THE HEIGHT OF OUR REVETMENT. THAT'S WHY WE GOT THOSE BEAUTIFUL PIECES OF CONCRETE OUT THERE. 
          BUT THE STEEPNESS THAT THIS WHOLE THING CREATED PRESENTED A TERRIBLE PROBLEM FOR ACCESSING THE BEACH. 
          AND SO WE HAD TO BUILD THE WALKOVERS SO ALLOW PEOPLE TO GET THERE. BECAUSE CRAWLING OVER THOSE BOULDERS AND THE CONSTRUCTION DEBRIS WAS VERY HAZARDOUS. 
          NOW, SO WHAT DO WE REALLY NEED TO DO AT THIS POINT? IN MY VIEW WE NEED TO GROW THE DUNES SEA WARD USING NATURAL AND NATURE-BASE AD METHODS. METHODS. WE NEED TO FILL IN THE HOLES WE CREATED IN EACH OF THE WALKOVERS, INCLUDING AT 9 WHERE WE JUST PUT IN A NEW WALKOVER EXASPERATING THE PROBLEM. 
          HERE IS OUR WALKOVER AT 6, WE'D LIKE TO IMPROVE THE HABITAT OF THE DUNES FOR OUR NATURE FRIENDS AND IMPROVE THE ACCESS NOT BEACE BEACH AS MONEY BECOMES AVAILABLE AND I KNOW MONEY IS VERY TIGHT. 
          AND LONG TERM, WE NEED A LONG TERM PLAN AS COMMISSIONER ROSS SUGGESTED EARLIER, TO ACHIEVE THE GOALS FOR ALL THE CITY'S BEACHES AND ALL OF THE COUNTIES'S BEACHES HOPEFULLY. 
          SO WHAT WE ARE VOLUNTEERING AS AN ORGANIZATION, TO HELP GET THE FOREDUNE GROWING UP THERE IN A VERY LOW COST PROPOSITION. 
          WE FIRST GROW THE ACCESS, THE FOREDUNE WHICH UNFORTUNATELY DOES NOT EXIST NORTH OF SADLER, ON THE SOUTH IT LOOKS LIKE THE ALPS, BUT NORTH, WE'D LIKE TO GROW THE DUNES ON ALL ACCESS LOCATIONS ALONG OCEAN AND WE WOULD VOLUNTEER THE DO ALL THE PERMITTING WORK, ALL THE DESIGN WORK, HELP ORGANIZE AND TRAIN VOLUNTEERS, WE'D PROVIDE THE PLANTS, AT OUR COST, WHICH ARE WHOLESALE, I GOT A WHOLESALE RELATIONSHIP WITH ONE OF THE BEST NATURAL VEGETATION GROWERS IN THE STATE OF FLORIDA. 
          AND THE PLAN WOULD BE TO PLANT ABOUT 1704 PLANTS. 
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AT ALL THE ACCESSES FROM 4 TO 11. 
          AND AGAIN WE WOULD PROVIDE IT AT OUR WHOLESALE COST. 
          AND HELP EVERYTHING ELSE AT NO CHARGE. 
          IS AND WE WOULD ALSO HELP THE CITY CREWS TO INSTALL SOME SAND FENCES BECAUSE CAN'T PLANT THE VEGETATION UNTIL NEXT SPRING. 
          NOTICE OF IS WHEN WE COULD PUT THE FENCES UP. 
          NOVEMBER THROUGH OCTOBER, OR THROUGH MARCH, IS WHEN MOST OF THE DUNE BUILDING IS DONE. BECAUSE YOU GET THE NORTHEAST WINDS TO CREATE IT. AND THEN WE'D INSTALL SOME LINES IN EARLY NOVEMBER AND SAND FENCING TO TRAC TRAP THAT WINTED AND WINTER WIND WE'RE GOING TO GET. 
          ESPECIALLY IF THE NAVY HELPS WE HAVE THAT EXTRA FINE SAND THAT WANTS TO BLOW INTO OUR DUNES. THE ESTIMATED COST OF THIS THING USING VOLUNTEERS AND OFFER WE'RE MAKING FOR THE 1704 PLANTS IS ABOUT $2500. WHICH INCLUDES ABOUT $300 FOR REFRESHMENTS FOR THE VOLUNTEERS. METHODS WE'RE TALKING ABOUT ARE TRIED AND TRUE. THE REASON WHY WE HAVE THE DUNE WE HAVE OUT THERE IS BECAUSE BACK IN 2002, THE EXTENSION CENTER ORGANIZED A MASSIVE DUNE PLANTING EXERCISE UP THERE. 
          WE GOT PICTURES OF IT FROM HERE. AND THAT'S THE MAIN REASON WHY WE HAVE THE DUNE WE DO HAVE. TODAY. 
          IF -- AND MY GROUP HAS BEEN PLANTING PRIVATE HOMEOWNERS, STARTING THIS YEAR WE STARTED THE ORGANIZATION TO HELP CREATE A BETTER DUNE SYSTEM. WE HAVE DONE SEVERAL, SAME PHILOSOPHY. AND NATURE'S BEEN DOING THIS ALL ALONG. THIS IS DOWN AT 35. 
          THIS IS THE DUNE THAT'S DEVELOPING RIGHT NOW. 
          NO ONE'S HELPING IT AT ALL. NATURE'S JUST DOING IT ALL BY ITSELF. THERE'S SAND AVAILABLE. 
          VEGETATION IS ALLOWED TO GROW, THANKS TO NOT RUNNING THE GARBAGE TRUCKS UP THROUGH IT. NOW WE'RE GROWING A HEALTHY DUNE SYSTEM DOWN THERE. THIS IS OUR PLANTING PROGRAM.WE PROGRAM.WE USE THE NATIVE PLANT, SAND OATS ARE VERY POPULA, FILL SOME ROLES IN THE DUNE BUILDING PROCESS. 
          SO GOING BACK TO OUR SYSTEM AT 6 N, THIS IS THE LITTLE AREA IN GREEN, IS WHAT WE THINK WE CAN GROW IN THE THE NEXT COUPLE OF YEARS. IT WILL TAKE SOME TIME. 
          ANOTHER 70 CUBIC FEET PER FOOT OF VOLUME. 
          JUST BY NATURAL DUNE PROCESSES. NOW, THE SECOND THING THEN IS WE NEED TO RESTORE THE REVETMENT. PART OF THE REVETMENT HAS BEEN DAMAGED BY FOOT TRAFFIC. AND I DON'T CONSIDER THAT AS HIGH A PRIORITY AS CREATING THAT FOREDUNE THAT WE DON'T HAVE. 
          BECAUSE IT WILL BE SUBSTANTIAL VOLUME. 
          BUT EVENTUALLY WE HAVE TO GO BACK AND GET RID OF IT IF WE CAN MAKE IT TO THE 540. FLAY, WE NEED TO PLUG THOSE HOLES IN THE DUNE WITH THE SAME MATERIAL THAT WENT IN THERE. 
          IT'S NOT GOING TO REBUILD ITSELF. 
          NATURE WON'T BUILD IT, IT'S GOT TO BE BUILT BY MAN. 
          PUTTING IN ROCK AND BOULDERS SAME MATERIALS THAT WENT INTO THE ORIGINAL. AND THEN COVERED UP WITH SAND AND PUT VEGETATION ON IT. WE FIRST NEED TO BUILD A RAMP, REVETMENT, WALKOVER. IT SHOULD NOT BE MADE OUT OF WOOD. AND I'D LIKE TO MODIFY -- WELL, MY FIRST OPTION WAS TO MODIFY THE VICE MAYOR'S PROPOSAL TO ALLOW US TO BUILD RAMPS THAT WILL GO OVER, ONLY THE REVETMENT WALL. AND THEN IN THE MIDDLE OF THE BEACH TO THEN GO ON FOOT, THROUGH THE DUNES, UP TO THE BUILDING FOREDUNE. WE COULD DO TWO OF THOSE FOR THE PRICE OF THE ONE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT. 
          AND MY ORIGINAL OFFER WAS TO VOLUNTEER TO HELP FILL OUT THAT FORM. SO MY ASSOCIATES HAVE BEEN INVOLVED IN THE NOAA PROGRAM OVER THE YEARS, I'D BE HAPPY TO 
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HELP WITH THAT, CHANGING THE DOCUMENTATION. 
          THIS IS KIND OF WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING IS A DUNE WALKOVER OPTION. AND THIS IS HOW IT WOULD KIND OF WORK. WE GOT OUR DUNE BUILT THERE AS IT IS TODAY. A LITTLE SHY OF WHAT WE NEED. 
          WE WALK AND PUT THE RAMP PARALLEL TO OCEAN AVENUE, CROSS OVER THE DUNE, AND COME BACK INTO THE MIDDLE OF THE DUNE. 
          AND THEN AS WE GROW THE FOREDUNE, THAT WE DON HAVE, WE COULD EVENTUALLY THEN EXTEND IT, FIVE YEARS, SIX YEARS, HOWEVER IT TAKES TO BUILD THAT FOREDUNE. SO BUT THAT WAS MY FIRST OPTION. 
          AND THE ONLY ONE I GOT ON THE -- INTO THE MACHINE, WHICH YOU'LL SEE IN FRONT OF YOU IS A SECOND THOUGHT. 
          AND ANOTHER OFFER THAT WE WOULD HELP AGAIN, LAURIE, LO ISRELEI FILL OUT THE PAPERWORK FOR A GRANT TO DO MORE DUNE PLANTING ALL UP AND DOWN THE BEACH. BECAUSE OCEAN AVENUE IS NOT THE ONLY PLATE WE'RE IN THE FLOOD PLANE. 
          IN 2017 FEMA SURPRISED A LOT OF PEOPLE BY ANNOUNCING THAT INDEED THE AREA ALONG SOUTH YOU FLETCHR ERR ALMOST DOWN TO OSA SADLER SE OF THE HOMES WERE IN THE FEMA FLOOD PLANE AGAIN DUE TO LACK OF FLOOD PLANE IN FRONT OF THEM. WE COULD PLANT, A PROPOSAL TO GET 30,000 PLANTS FOR A $50,000 GRANT APPLICATION, I'D BE HAPPY TO DESIGN THAT PLAN FOR THE CITY TO AT LEAST MAKE THE APPLICATION WITH. AND THEN WE COULD AGAIN USE VOLUNTEER LABOR TO BE THE GRANT, LOCAL GRANT CONTRIBUTION. 
          AND WE COULD START TO BUILD THE FOREDUNE IN ALL THE AREAS WHERE IT'S NEEDED. THE OTHER THING, THIRD OFFER I HAVE FOR YOU, IS THAT I DO INDEED THINK THAT WE NEED A LONG TERM PLAN CAN. WE CAN'T GO AT IT PIECEMEAL. 
          IT HELPS ORE PERMITTING, NOT OUR PERMITTING, EXCUSE ME, OUR GRANT APPLICATION PROCESS. INDEED WE HAVE A CONCISE PLAN. 
          AND AT THIS POINT, WE DON'T HAVE A PLAN. 
          WE GO IN FOR A WALKOVER THIS YEAR, WALKOVER NEXT YEAR WITH NO REAL PLAN. I THINK WE HAVE A UNIQUE OPPORTUNITY TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF COMMISSIONER ROSS'S SUGGESTION, WE'VE GOT SOME PEOPLE IN UP TO, ROBERT PRAEGER WHO HAS VOLUNTEERED TO HEAD UP A COMMITTEE TO DO A STUDY AT NO COST TO THE CITY, I'D BE HAPPY TO VOLUNTEER, TO PROVIDE FREE PARTICIPATION IN THAT COMMITTEE. OR WORKSHOP. 
          AND I'VE ALSO BEEN ABLE TO CONVINCE ONE OF MY GOOD FRIENDS WHO USED TO BE IN CHARGE OF THE TEXAS BEACH PROGRAM, AND HANDLE THESE KIND OF N NOAA APPLICATIOS FOR THE STATE OF TEXAS. 
          HE ALSO WOULD BE HAPPY TO VOLUNTEER TO PARTICIPATE IN SUCH A WORKSHOP TO TRY TO FIGURE OUT WHERE WE GO FROM HERE. 
          SO FOR $2500 YOU GET -- I'M OFFERING TO START TO BUILD THE DUNES NORTH OF MAIN BEACH, ALONG OCEAN BOULEVARD, OCEAN AVENUE. 
          DON'T WANT TO CALL IT A BOULEVARD. 
          AND HELP WITH APPLICATION TO GET 50 OR $60,000 GRANT MONEY TO START BUILDING THE DUNES ALL UP AND DOWN THE CITY PARTICULARLY WHERE THEY'RE NEEDED AND FOR ALMOST NO MONEY HELP START A PLANNING PROCESS FOR WHERE WE GO LONG TERM. 
          >> THANK YOU, SIR. >> THANK YOU. 
          >> BEFORE WE GET STARTED LET'S TALK ABOUT WHAT'S ON THE TABLE HERE. THIS IS A VERY LONG DISCUSSION OF A GRANT APPLICATION. NORMALLY LIKE GRANT APPLICATION 
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CALL THE VOTE. SO WHAT EXACTLY, DALE? IF YOU WOULD. WHAT EXACTLY IS AT ISSUE HERE? I MEAN IF WE PUT INTO THE GRANT APPLICATION AS IT'S SPECIFIED BY THE AGENDA ITEM TONIGHT DOES THAT MEAN IT'S LOCKED IN, ARE WE DISCUSSING WHETHER OR NOT TO APPLY FOR THIS GRANT? 
          >> ADDITIONAL CLARIFICATION, THIS IS A GRANT APPLICATION FOR THE COASTAL PARTICIPATE GRANT FOR THE AMOUNT OF $75,000, 65, AND WHAT IS PROPOSED IN FRONT OF YOU IS THE RESOLUTION IS FOR THE WORK AT BAKE WALKOVER 6 NORTH. THAT'S AWAY WHAT'S BEFORE YOUTH. 
          THE GRANT APPLICATION IS DUE BY THE END OF THIS MONTH. 
          WE NEED DIRECTION BECAUSE IF WE NEED TO STEER A COMPLETELY DIFFERENT PATH WE NEED TO BURN MIDNIGHT OIL FOR A DIFFERENT APPLICATION. WHAT'S BEFORE YOU ADMIT IS STRICTLY LIMITED TO THE GRANT APPLICATION FOR THE COASTAL 
          PARTNERSHIP GRANT. >> SO WHAT IS THE DOWN SIDE OF NOT VOTING? WHY WOULD WE VOTE IT DOWN? WHY WOULD WE NOT APPLY FOR A GRANT? 
          >> I THINK THERE WAS QUESTION AMONG -- AND I -- I THINK THIS GRANT WAS DEVELOPED, VICE MAYOR KREGER RECOMMENDED THAT THIS BE THE BEACH WALKOVER THAT WE LOOK AT APPLYING FOR. 
          AND THAT'S WHY IT'S BEFORE YOU BECAUSE THERE WAS ALWAYS QUESTION OF WHY DID WE PICK THAT BEACH WALKOVER? WHY ARE WE DOING -- SO THAT'S WHY IT'S BEFORE YOU TO GET THE DIRECTION. BECAUSE OF -- AND AGAIN THIS GOES BACK TO THE EARLIER DISCUSSION AS TO WHAT'S THE PLAN, WE'RE KIND OF PINGING ALL OVER THE PLACE. 
          BUT WHAT'S BEFORE YOU TONIGHT IS, YOUR SUPPORT FOR THE GRANT APPLICATION TO USE THE PARTNER -- COASTAL PARTNERSHIP FOR THE $65,000 TO BUILD THE WALKOVER AT 6 SNORT. 
          >> AND HOW LONG DOES THE GRANT APPLICATION TAKE? HOW LONG WOULD IT TAKE FOR US TO GET THAT IN HERE AND HEAR BACK? 
          >> I'LL HAVE MS. JACOBSON. >> BOTH OF THESE GRANTS, THE 75,000 ONE, THE 60,000 ONE HAS TO BE APPROVED BY THE LEGISLATURE WHICH WILL HAPPEN IN JULY OF 2021. 
          THEY'LL HAVE A VERY QUICK TURN AROUND ON THESE GRANTS BOTH OF THEM TO GET CONTRACTS OUT TO AWARD WINNERS SO THEY HAVE TO IMPLEMENT WITHIN A TEN MONTH WINDOW WHICH WILL BE APPROXIMATELY SEPTEMBER 2021 TO MAY OF 2022. 
          AFTER THE LEGISLATIVE SESSION ENDS IN JULY 2021. 
          >> IF WE DID GET THE GRANT BACK, WE DECIDED TO GO A DPIRCHLTD DIRECTION WE DIDN'T HAVE TO ACCEPT THAT GRANT RIGHT? 
          >> WE WOULDN'T HAVE DO ACCEPT IT BUT WE DOESN'T REQUEST MODIFY IT 
          AT THAT TIME. >> THE NEXT IS DISCUSSED ON THE NEXT AGENDA WHEN PASSERO AND ASSOCIATES ARE HERE TO TALK ABOUT THE RESILIENCY GRANT. TONIGHT IS FOCUSED ON THE SMALLER OF THE TWO GRANTS AND THE PLAN OR PROPOSAL IN FRONT OF YOU IS FOR A WALKOVER AT 6 SNORT. 
          >> OKAY GOT YOU THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER LEDNOVICH YOU'RE 
          RECOGNIZED SIRS. >> THANK YOU. 
          SO THE REASON I HAD DR. HOFF HERE TO PRESENT AN ALTERNATIVE WAS, AGAIN, GOING TO THE CORPS OF ENGINEERS GUIDELINES AND RECOMMENDATIONS. AND THEIR OVERRIDING RECOMMENDATIONS AND GUIDELINES ARE FOR SAND FENCING, PLANTING, AND THE PATH GUIDE WAY. SO THIS $60,000 FROM AWAY DR. HOFF JUST PRESENTED, WE COULD DO THE ENTIRE DUNE. 
          AND IN MY MIND,  THE QUESTION IS DO WE DO A SINGLE WALKOVER OR DO WE GROW THE ENTIRE DUNE? THE QUESTION IN MY MIND IS WHICH ARE THOSE TWO THINGS ARE MORE IMRACTFUL AIMPACTFULS AND GIVESE MOST BANG FOR YOUR BUCK? THAT'S THE QUESTION FOR US, WE COULD CAN HAING THIS APPLICATION PROCESS TO DO THE DUNE PLANNING 
          AND DO THAT DUNE BUILDUP. >> VICE MAYOR KREGER. 
          >> YES, THIS WAS CHOSEN BECAUSE THE NORTH END IS THE ONLY REPETITIVE DAMAGE. AND THIS IS AN AREA. 
          IT WAS ALSO CHOSEN BECAUSE IT COULD BE DONE ON GRADE RELATIVELY CHEAP AND MOOFN OVER IT'S 112 FEET FROM OCEAN O TO TE END OF THE DUNE. THIS DOES INCLUDE SAND FENCING. 
          THIS DOES INCLUDE SEALS WHICH ALL THE REST DID IN THAT AREA. 
          IT DOESN'T INCLUDE THE BHOALZ TOWN. 
          WHOLE TOWN. 
          THE NICE THING IS IT MEETS THAT REQUIREMENT AND WE CAN MATCH WITH IMPACT FUNDS. THIS IS THE FIRST TIME WE'VE HEARD ABOUT MR. HOFF'S RECOMMENDATION. 
          IT SOUNDS LIKE A GOOD RECOMMENDATION. 
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NOTHING HE SAID IS ANYTHING DIFFERENT THAN WHAT WE'VE BEEN SAYING HERE FOREVER. SO THE NICE THING ABOUT THIS GRANT IS LAST YEAR WE GOT THIS GRANT STARTED IS A TEN MATCH WENT TO 35 MILL MATCH AND WENT TO 75. 
          SO IT'S CONSISTENT WITH WHAT WE'RE DOING. 
          IT CAN BE MODIFIED. IT'S BUILT TO DEP STANDARDS, IT'S PERMITTED BY DEP SO, YOU KNOW, THAT'S WHAT THE RECOMMENDATION WAS. THERE'S SOME INTERESTING PROPOSALS THERE BUT I THINK YOU HAVE TO GO BACK AND LOOK AND SEE WHAT WE WANT TO DO. THOSE DUNES HAVE ACTUALLY GROWN SIGNIFICANTLY, AND ALL YOU HAVE TO DO IS GO OUT AND LOOK AT THE SIGNS ON THOSE DUNES, ALL THOSE NORTH END DUNES AND THEY'RE NOT WHERE WE WANT THEM TO BE CERTAINLY BUT THOSE SIGNS WERE PUT IN, IN BETWEEN AND THEY'RE HALFWAY UP ON THE SIGNS. 
          SO -- AND YOU ARE PROTECTING, YOU ARE PROTECTING FOR THE ENDANGERED SPECIES AND THOSE ISSUES. 
          SO THAT'S THE DIFFERENCE. I MEAN, I MADE THE MOTION WE PROCEED WITH THIS. AND THE DESIGN WILL BE -- IT WILL BE ENGINEERED OF COURSE. AND  IT CAN BE CHANGED. 
          AND WALKOVERS ARE NOT INTENDED TO BE OPERMANENT STRUCTURES. 
          THEY'RE SPECIFICALLY INTEND THEY'D THEY CAN -- ALTHOUGH IN 11 YEARS, I'VE NEVER SEEN ONE BLOW AWAY HERE. 
          >> THANK YOU AND FULL EXPLORE BEFORE I CALL ON COMMISSIONER ROSS, LAST WEEK WE SAT DOWN FOR A COUPLE OF HOURS AND WENT OVER THE FIRST PROPOSAL AND I THOUGHT $2500 WAS A PRETTY GOOD DEAL TO DO A WHOLE DUNE. COMMISSIONER ROSS, YOUR RUNG IN 
          SIR. >> PROPOSAL FOR THAT DUNE WALKOVER HOW MUCH WOULD THAT COST, WHAT IS YOUR ESTIMATE OF 
          THE COST? >> IT WOULD BE ABOUT $75,000. 
          >> EACH. >> COULD YOU REPEAT THAT SO THEY 
          HAVE IT ON THE RECORD UPSTAIRS. >> CAN YOU APPROACH THE 
          MICROPHONE. >> $75,000. 
          SO HERE'S REPLY CONCERN. MY CONCERN. 
          WOULD I LIKE TO SUPPORT USING THIS GRANT TO DO THE MORE GLOBAL APPROACH AS OPPOSED TO ONE DUNE WALKOVER. 
          THAT'S JUST MY DRUTHERS. I THINK I GOT A LATE GRANT RIGHT 
          NOW. >> CAN YOU BREAK? 
          >> NO, I'M FINE. WE -- THESE BEACH WALKOVERS, WE KEEP GOING BACK AND BACK AND BACK. 
          AND I THINK THAT GROWING THE WHOLE ENTIRE DUNE IS A BETTER PROCESS, AND THAT'S JUST WHAT I WOULD SUPPORT. 
          SO I'M NOT GOING TO SUPPORT THIS ONE BEACH WALKOVER. 
          I WOULD PREFER TO USE THE MONEY TO DO THE ENTIRE DUNE. 
          SYSTEM. COMMISSIONER CHAPMAN. 
          >> MY BIG CONCERN IS THAT REGARDLESS OF WHAT WE DO, PEOPLE ARE STILL GOING TO WALK OVER THE DUNES, CREATING HOLES IN THE DIKE, DESTROYING THE VEGETATION. WE DON'T STOP THEM NOW. 
          SO I'M NOT SURE WHY, IN THE FUTURE, THAT'S GOING TO CHANGE. 
          THE SHORTEST DISTANCE BETWEEN THE STREET AND THE OCEAN IS A STRAIGHT LINE AND UNFORTUNATELY THAT'S THE WAY PEOPLE DO IT. 
          THEY WALK THE WALKOVERS, THEY REMOVE OUR FENCES. 
          SO I THINK THAT'S AN ISSUE THAT HAS TO GET ADDRESSED AS WE MOVE FORWARD WITH ANY PLAN. HOW ARE WE GOING TO GET THE PEOPLE TO REALIZE THOSE DUNES ARE THEIR PROTECTION. 
          AND, YOU KNOW, I JUST DON'T KNOW HOW YOU DO IT. 
          THAT'S ALL. >> ANYBODY ELSE? 
          OKAY, DO WE HAVE A MOTION? >> YES, SIR. 
          >> MADAM CLERK WOULD YOU PLEASE CALL DID VOTE. 
          >> VICE MAYOR KREGER. YES, COMMISSIONER CHAPMAN, YES, COMMISSIONER ROSS, NO. COMMISSIONER LEDNOVICH, NO. 
          MAYOR MILLER. YES. 
          THANK YOU VERY MUCH, DOCTOR. OKAY, ITEM -- I'M SORRY WE HAD SPEAKERS ON THIS. I HAD WRITTEN DOWN THREE OR FOUR TIMES. MS. MINCHU AND MS. BRINN BYRON. 
          WOULD YOU JUST LIKE TO SPEAK? MORE THAN HAPPY TO COME UP AND 
          [03:05:01]
SPEAK. IT'S GETTING KIND OF LATE. 
          >> JUST SO EVERYBODY KNOWS, DON'T HESITATE TO SPEAK (INAUDIBLE) DISAGREE WITH THEIR VOTE. 
          THERE IS ALWAYS THE OPPORTUNITY TO RECONSIDERATION. 
          >> ABSOLUTELY, I'D BE WILLING TO RECONSIDER. 
          IT DID PASS AND IF YOU'RE NOT SUPPORTIVE YOU OWOULD LIKE TO COME UP AND SPEAK I COULD ALWAYS MOVE FOR RECONSIDERATION. 
          SO MS. MINCHU. >> SO JANICE MINCHU 2420 LAST MENCHU DRIVE. EARLIER YOU SAID DR. HOFF WAS PREPARED TO TALK ABOUT ACCESS 40. 
          THAN THE WHAT Y'ALL TALKED ABOU. SO I WAS INTERESTED IN HEARING THAT. THE OTHER CONCERN I HAVE IS, I ALSO SENT THIS VIDEO TO MS. VOIT. 
          AND THE RESPONSE BACK FROM HER WAS THAT THIS KIND OF WASN'T HER PROBLEM. AND YOU JUST SAID, THAT YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE PARKS AND REC FIX THIS. 
          SO SHE SAID IT'S A STORM WATER PROBLEM NOT HERS. 
          SO I'M A LITTLE CONCERNED THAT, YOU KNOW, IT'S THE RIGHT HAND, LEFT HAND KIND OF THING. AND THAT WHATEVER THE TEMPORARY SOLUTION IS I'D LIKE TO KNOW WHAT IT IS. 
          AND HOW PARKS AND REC IS GOING TO ACTUALLY FIX IT. 
          THANK YOU. >> I WILL FORWARD TO YOU WHAT MR. HOFF SENT. I SENT THAT I BELIEVE AGAIN TO ALL OF YOU. AND YES, I REEMPHASIZED WITH MS. VOIT, THE BEACH ACCESSES AND THE BEACHES ARE THE RESPONSIBILITY OF THE PARKS AND REC DEPARTMENT. 
          THEY MAY HAVE TO WORK WITH STORM WATER, BUT THEY ARE THE ULTIMATE RESPONSIBILITY LIES WITH THE PARKS AND REC DEPARTMENT. 
          AND I'VE AGAIN FORWARDED MS. MINCHU'S VIDEO TO MS. VOIT, NOT REALIZING YOU HAD SENT IT TO ALREADY, BUT CLARIFYING THAT THIS NEEDS TO BE ADDRESSED IMMEDIATELY. 
          SO I WILL FORWARD TO YOU WHAT MR. HOFF RECOMMENDED ORIGINALLY IN AN E-MAIL TO COMMISSIONER ROSS, TO OBASICALLY IT INVOLVES A HEAVIER USE OF GRAVEL COVERED BUY COURSE OF SAND. 
          IT'S A SHORT TERM FIX WHILE WE PURSUE THE LONG TERM SOLUTION. 
          >> OKAY, WHEN YOU SAY COARSE SAND, I WANT TO MAKE SURE YOU'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT THAT BLACK STUFF THAT'S OUT THERE NOW. 
          >> RIGHT. >> YOU'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT THAT 
          BLACK STUFF. >> I'M TALKING ABOUT APPROPRIATE 
          MATERIAL WHICH THAT WAS NOT. >> A LOT NOT. 
          OKAY SO DO WE HAVE A TIME FRAME YET WHEN THIS IS GOING TO 
          HAPPEN? >> MY E-MAIL TO HER TONIGHT WAS 
          IMMEDIATELY. >> ALL RIGHT. 
          SO ALL RIGHT. AND THEN YOU'RE GOING TO SEND ME WHAT DR. HOFF'S PROPOSAL -- OKAY, THAT'S HELPFUL. 
          >> AT THE CONCLUSION OF THIS MEETING. 
          >> I'M SORRY? >> AT THE CONCLUSION OF THIS 
          MEETING. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 
          >> THANK YOU MA'AM. MS. BRINN BRIGHTON. 
          >> MY NAME IS BRINN BYRON. I LIVE AT 1438 SOUTH FLETCHER AND I HAVE HIRED DR. HOFF AS WELL TO DO DUNE PLANTING ON THE DUNES IN FRONT OF MY HOUSE. AND I'M VERY IN FAVOR OF THIS PROJECT MOVING FORWARD. AND I WOULD LIKE TO OFFER TO PAY THE 2600 OR 2500 FOR THE MATERIAL TO LAUNCH THIS PROJECT FOR THE CITY. AND MY SISTER, SANDY CARRIE, IS GOING TO TRY TO GET THE MASTER GARDENERS TO PARTICIPATE IN THEIR TIME AND SO FORTH. SO IN ORDER TO LAUNCH THIS PROGRAM, I WOULD LIKE TO HELP OUT FINANCIALLY, AND MY SISTER AND HER PARTNERS AT MASTER GARDENERS WILL TRY TO PARTICIPATE AS WELL. SO I HOPE THAT WILL GET US MOVING FORWARD IN -- IN A MOVEMENT THAT'S ECOFRIENDLY TO OUR ISLAND AND HELPFUL. THANK YOU. 
          >> THAT'S FANTASTIC. THANK YOU VERY MUCH MA'AM. 
          VICE MAYOR. >> I THINK THAT'S GREAT. 
          ASK WE DO THAT? >> YES, WE CAN ALWAYS TAKE 
          MONEY. >> AND MR. HOFF IS GOING DO PROVIDE THAT SERVICE. SHE'S PAYING HIM AND HE'S GOING TO PROVIDE THAT SERVICE. AND THAT'S -- MR. HOFF WOULD YOU KIND OF DEFINE WHAT THAT IS AGAIN PLEASE? 
          >> THAT THERE WAS JUST WHAT I HEARD THERE WAS A LOT MORE TO WHAT DR. WAS PROPOSING. I KNOW HE DID SAY 2500 -- 
          >> THIS IS JUST -- >> THIS IS JUST FOR THE -- 
          >> MR. HOFF STEP CLOSE TO THE MICROPHONE PLEASE SIR. 
          >> THE 2500 IS FOR THE WALKOVERS NORTH OF 4, 4N NORTH, NORTH 4. 
          [03:10:09]
AND I'D LIKE TO POINT OUT THAT I DID NOT WORRY ABOUT THE TEMPORARY ACCESS CHANGE. AS INDEED THE CORPS HAD INDICATED THAT THEY WOULD TAKE CARE OF THAT RAISING ELEVATION GIVE US MONEY FOR THAT. SO THAT'S THE ONLY REASON DID I NOT MENTION THAT. THAT IS THE BIGGEST SINGLE THREAT TO THE NORTH SIDE OF THE ISLAND. 
          AND I DO HAVE, SINCE YOU GAVE ME THE MICROPHONE BACK THERE IS ONE COMMENT I DO WANT TO MAKE. THE ONLY PROBLEM WITH THE VICE MAYOR'S PROPOSAL IS THAT IT WILL CUT INTO THE DUNE. 
          AND WILL CUT INTO THE FLOOD CONTROL PROJECT THAT THE CORPS BUILT BACK IN THE 1880EST OR 1980S RATHER. 
          AND I'M AFRAID IT'S PROBABLY LEGAL, AND WILL PERMANENTLY LIMIT OUR ABILITY TO GET TO A SOLUTION THAT IS -- MEETS THE 540 RULE, IN ANY WAY, SHAPE OR FORM. 
          BECAUSE UNFORTUNATELY IT'S PERMANENT, CUT THROUGH. 
          THE ONLY WAY WE CAN GET OVER THAT DUNE WITHOUT DAMAGING THE STRUCTURE WOULD BE TO MAKE THE ELEVATION UP PARALLEL TO OCEAN 
          AVENUE. >> IT DOESN'T CUT THROUGH. 
          IT WILL BE ENGINEERED TO GO, IT'S JUST A DRAWN. 
          >> LET ME SHOW YOU. CAN I GET MY THINGS BACK UP 
          HERE? >> CAN I SAY SOMETHING? 
          >> YES, JUST SO WE CAN MOVE ALONG HERE. 
          WHAT -- >> WE NEED TO HAVE A DECISION POINT. AND I JUST WANT TO MENTION SOMETHING THAT JUST CAME UP. IT'S IMPORTANT. 
          WHEN THE CITY DID BEACH RENOURISHMENT AND HAS ON THE NORTH PART OF THE BEACH, WE HIRED BUDDY JACOBS FIRM GO THROUGH EMINENT DOMAIN PROCESS TO GET EASEMENTS FROM PROPERTY OWNERS. IF YOU DON'T KNOW THOSE DUNES ARE ALL PRIVATE PROPERTY. THE ACCESSES ARE PUBLIC PROPERTY. BUT EVERYTHING NORTH AND SOUTH OF THOSE ACCESSES IS PRIVATE PROPERTY. 
          SO THEY ARE NOT TO BE TOUCHED UNLESS YOU HAVE THE APPROVAL FROM THE PROPERTY OWNERS. SO I WOULD SUGGEST THAT ALTHOUGH THEY CAN'T BUILD OR DEVELOP ON THOSE LOTS THAT WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE APPROVAL FOR -- IT JUST POPPED INTO MY HEAD AND IT'S SOMETHING WE HAVE TO LOOK AT BEFORE WE SEND FRANK HOFF AND MS. BYRON OUT SPENDING MONEY AND TIME AND -- 
          >> (INAUDIBLE). >> SIR YOU HAVE TO COME TO THE 
          MIC -- >> THE EASEMENTS MYSELF DR. HOFF I HAVE READ THEM SEVERAL TIMES AND I HAVE TO REREAD THEM BECAUSE I'M NOT SURE -- HAVE YOU READ ALL 46 THE OF THEM? 
          >> I'M TALKING ABOUT THE CITY ACCESSES. 
          >> THEY ARE ALL CONTAINED WHEN I THE CITY'S PUBLIC ACCESSES. 
          OKAY. >> I ALLUDED TO THE FACT THAT THE OTHER PROPOSAL, CAN THEY WOULD ONLY BE IN THOSE WASTE LAND AREAS NORTH OF OCEAN, OR ON OCEAN. 
          THAT WERE WIPED OUT THAT WE DO THIS MASSIVE DUNE PLANTING. 
          BECAUSE EVERYONE ELSE, YOU KNOW, 19 WERE OWNED BY THE COUNTY, CITY OWNS TWO, AND LEASES TWO FROM THE STATE. 
          >> THANK YOU SIR. VICE MAYOR KREGER. 
          >> YES, THERE'S RIGHT-OF-WAYS UP THERE, WE HAVE GOT THREE 
          RIGHT-OF-WAYS. >> YES THERE ARE. 
          >> THAT'S WHERE IT NEEDS IT. THE $2500 ONE HOW DO WE GO ABOUT 
          DOING THAT? >> MY SUGGESTION AND I'M JUST LOOKING TOWARDS THE CITY MANAGER BECAUSE IT'S HIS AGENDA, HE DRIVES THESE THINGS TO YOU, IS I WOULD SUGGEST THAT AT THE NEXT AVAILABLE MEETING, WE CAN'T PROMISE THE 15TH, BUT CERTAINLY BY THE FIRST MEETING IN OCTOBER, WE NEED TO HAVE A RESOLUTION TO SAY LET'S GO FORWARD WITH THAT PLAN IN THAT 
          AMOUNT. >> IS THAT GOOD? 
          >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. ITEM 7.9 HAS BEEN REMOVED. 
          [7.10 AWARD OF BID #2020-09 - JOHNSON HOME BUILDERS, INC.]
ITEM 7.10 AWARD FOR BID 2020-09 FOR JOHNSON HOME BUILDERS INCORPORATED. DOES ANYONE NEED A BREAK? I THINK WE'RE PAST THE 90 MINUTE MARK. 
          >> KEEP GOING WE'RE GOOD. >> EVERYBODY ELSE OKAY? 
          OKAY. >> THANK YOU MR. MAYOR. 
          IS THIS IS PART OF THE TOP TRACER GOLF FACILITY. 
          THIS IS THE AGREEMENT TO BUILD THE TOPTRACER FACILITY, THE CITY PREPARED A INVITATION TO BIDS, AND THE LOW BID WAS RECEIVED FROM STEVE JOHNSON BUILDERS AND CITY STAFF RECOMMENDS PROCEEDING WITH THE AWARD IN THE AMOUNT OF APPROXIMATELY $277,000. 
          [03:15:03]
          >> VICE MAYOR KREGER. >> TO. 
          >> OKAY. >> I RECOMMEND APPROVAL. 
          >> I'LL SECOND IT. >> I HAVE A MOTION AND SECOND. 
          SEEING NO LIGHTS MADAM CLERK IF YOU COULD PLEASE CALL THE VOTE. 
          >>THE CLERK: VICE MAYOR KREGER, YES, COMMISSIONER CHAPMAN, YES, COMMISSIONER LEDNOVICH, YES, COMMISSIONER ROSS, YES, MAYOR MILLER. YES. 
          [8.1 FY 2020/2021 AMENDED PAY AND CLASSIFICATION PLAN]
          >> THIS IS ITEM 8, ORDINANCE, ITEM FY 2020-2021, AMENDED PAY 
          AND CLASSIFICATION PLAN. >> ESTABLISHING AN AMENDED PAY AND CLASSIFICATION PLAN FOR FISCAL YEAR 2020, 2021, PURSUANT TO SECTION 120 OF THE CITY CHARTER AND SECTION 62-247 OF THE CODE OF ORDINANCES OF THE CITY? PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY AND PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE. 
          >> MOTION? >> MOVE TO APPROVE. 
          >> SECOND. >> WE HAVE A MOTION AND SECOND. 
          CALL THE ROLL. >> VICE MAYOR KREGER, YES, COMMISSIONER CHAPMAN, YES, COMMISSIONER ROSS, YES, COMMISSIONER LEDNOVICH, YES, MAYOR MILLER. 
          [9.1 FUTURE LAND USE MAP AMENDMENT - NON-CITY OWNED PROPERTIES]
YES. BE 9, FUTURE LAWND USE MAP ANATOMY. CITY ATTORNEY. 
          >> WE'LL GO THROUGH THIS VERY QUICKLY. 
          ORDINANCE 2020-23, CHANGING THE CITY'S FUTURE LAND USE MATCH TO ADD CONSERVATION AND RECREATION LANDS FOR PROPERTIES OWNED BY THE STATE OF FLORIDA, NASSAU COUNTY, AND OCEAN HIGHWAY AND PORT AUTHORITY OF NASSAU COUNTY, COLLECTIVELY TOTALING 6.07 ACRES OF LAND, PROVIDING FOR OSEVERRABILITY AND PROVIDING FOR 
          AN EFFECTIVE DATE. >> I NEED A PUBLIC HEARING ON THIS. OPEN PUBLIC HEARING, CLOSE 
          PUBLIC HEARING. >> MOVE TO APPROVE. 
          >> I SECONDLY. >> I HAVE A MOTION AND SECOND. 
          AND MADAM CLERK CALL THE VOTE PLEASE MA'AM. 
          >> MR. COMMISSIONER ROSS, YES, COMMISSIONER LEDNOVICH, YES, COMMISSIONER CHAPMAN, VICE MAYOR KREGER, YES, MAYOR MILLER, YES. 
          [9.2 ZONING MAP AMENDMENT - NON-CITY OWNED PROPERTIES]
IDEA 9.2. LO ZONING MAP AMENDMENT FOR NONCITY OWNED PROPERTIES. IS ORDINANCE 2020-24 CHANGING THE CITY'S ZONING MAP TO ADD CONSERVATION AND RECREATION LANDS FOR PROPERTIES OWNED BY THE STATE OF FLORIDA, NASSAU COUNTY, AND OCEAN HIGHWAY AND PORT AUTHORITY, COLLECTIVELY TOTALING APPROXIMATELY 6.07 ACRES OF LAND; PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY; AND PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE. PLEASE OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING. 
          >> OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING, CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. 
          >> MOVE THIS ITEM. >> SECOND. 
          >> MADAM CLERK PLEASE CALL THE VOTE. 
          >> COMMISSIONER ROSS, YES, COMMISSIONER LEDNOVICH, YES, VICE MAYOR KREGER, YES, COMMISSIONER CHAPMAN, YES, MAYOR 
          [9.3 FUTURE LAND USE MAP AMENDMENT - CITY OWNED PROPERTIES]
MILLER. YES. 
          ORDINANCE NINE.3. FUTURE LAND USE MAP AMENDMENT. 
          >> THIS IS 2020-25 CHANGING THE CITY'S FUTURE LAND USE MAP TO ADD CONSERVATION AND RECREATION LANDS FOR PROPERTIES OWNED BY THE CITY OF FERNANDINA BEACH COLLECTIVELY TOTALING APPROXIMATELY 22.15 ACRES OF LAND; PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY; AND PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE. PLEASE A MUCH IF PUBLIC HEARING. 
          >> OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING, CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. 
          >> MOTION. >> SECOND. 
          >> MADAM CLERK. >> COMMISSIONER ROSS, YES, COMMISSIONER LEDNOVICH, 80, COMMISSIONER CHAPMAN, YES, VICE MAYOR KREGER, YES, MAYOR MILLER. YES. 
          [9.4 ZONING MAP AMENDMENT - CITY OWNED PROPERTIES]
          >> 9.4, ZONE MAP AMENDMENT. >> IS ORDINANCE 2020-26 CHANGING THE CITY¡¦S ZONING MAP TO ADD CONSERVATION AND RECREATION LANDS FOR PROPERTIES OWNED BY THE CITY OF FERNANDINA BEACH, COLLECTIVELY TOTALING APPROXIMATELY 22.15 ACRES OF LAND; PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY;  AND PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE. PLEASE OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING. 
          >> OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING, CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. 
          >> MOVE TO APPROVE. >> SECOND. 
          >> MOTION AND SECOND, MADAM CLERK PLEASE CALL THE VOTE. 
          >> COMMISSIONER ROSS, YES, COMMISSIONER LEDNOVICH, YES, EXAMINE COMMISSIONER CHAPMAN, YES, VICE MAYOR KREGER, YES, 
          [10. CITY MANAGER REPORTS]
MAYOR MILLER. YES. 
          >> WOULDN'T IT BE GREAT DID THEY ALL WENT LIKE THAT? ON THE REPORT, CITY MANAGER'S REPORTS,. 
          >> I HAVE TO SAY, AFTER DISCUSSION OF THE BEACHES I STILL HAVE NO IDEA WHAT THE PLAN IS COME I LOOK FORWARD TO FURTHER CLARIFICATION ABOUT WHAT OUR PLAN IS GOING FORWARD ON THE BEACHES. NOTHING MORE REALLY TO REPORT TONIGHT. CITY OFFICES ARE CLOSED ON MONDAY FOR THE CELEBRATION OF LABOR DAY. 
          SO I HOPE THAT ALL OF YOU HAVE A SAFE AND GO ENJOYABLE WIEKD. 
          [11. CITY ATTORNEY REPORTS]
          >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. CITY ATTORNEY. 
          >> FIRST OF ALL I WANT TO THANK MS. BYRON, FOR ALL OF THIS, NOT TO BE CRASS BUT PUT YOUR MONEY WHERE YOUR MOUTH IS, I APPRECIATE THAT AS A CITIZEN, THANK YOU VERY MUCH AND THANK 
          [03:20:03]
YOU FOR COMING ALL OF OUR MEETINGS. 
          I'M TAKING TOMORROW AND FRIDAY OFF WHILE THE KIDDOS ARE STILL IN SCHOOL. I MAIL HAVE SOME HOME PROJECTS TO DO. THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR STICKING WITH THE MASK ORDER. IT IS MY UNDERSTANDING, I DIDN'T MENTION IT EARLIER, THE COUNTY'S IS EXTENDED UNTIL THE FIRST OF OCTOBER. OURS GOES UNTIL THE FIRST WEEK OF OCTOBER, WE'LL PROBABLY BE BACK AT THE FIRST MEETING OR SECOND FOR ANOTHER EXTENSION. THANK YOU SO MUCH. 
          >> THANK YOU MA'AM. CITY CLERK. 
          >> NO COMMENTS MAYOR THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 
          [13. MAYOR/COMMISSIONER COMMENTS 14. ADJOURNMENT]
          DR. ROSS. >> JUST THREE THINGS. 
          THE FIRST IS I WANT TO THANK REC AT HIS DEPARTMENT FOR OPUTTING UP SIGNS AT THE MAIN BEACH WHERE PEOPLE WERE PARKING ILLEGALLY, FAITH AND I TAKE A RUN EVERY WEEKEND, SINCE THE SIGNS WENT UP THEY DON'T PARK THERE ANYMORE. I THANK THEM FOR DOING THAT. 
          NUMBER 2 I WANT TO OREMIND EVERYBODY THAT BARNABUS IS HAVING ITS SEVENTH ANNUAL EMPTY BOWLS EVENT, IF YOU GO TO THEIR WEBSITE YOU CAN BUY A TICKET AND I WOULD HOPE THAT EVERYBODY WOULD SUPPORT THIS, BARNABU SURVETIONABUSDOES A GREAT JOB AH EVERYTHING GOING ON DHEAR EVEN MORE STRESSED. 
          THE BEACH AMBASSADORS I WANT TO THANK ALL THE PEOPLE WHO PICK UP TRASH ON OUR BEACHES. BEACH DIRECTORS DOES A GREAT JOB BUT THERE'S'S TRASH. THERE ARE A LOT OF CITIZENS OUT THERE THAT PICK UP THE TRASH AND I REALLY APPRECIATE THAT HAND SO DOES THE US, I WANT TO GIVE THEM A SHOUT OUT. 
          >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. SPEAKING OF BEACHES AND SIGNS CITY ATTORNEY, DID WE EVER OR MAYBE CITY MANAGER. 
          CONVEY WE DISCUSSED THE THANK YR NOT SMOKING ON OUR BEACH SILENCE ACKNOWLEDGE DID WE DISCUSS THAT A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO? THOSE ARE VERY HELPFUL, THERE IS THE KID THING DADDY THERE IS A SIGN EVEN THOUGH HE CAN'T DO VERY MUCH ABOUT IT. 
          THANK YOU VERY MUCH COMMISSIONER ROSS. 
          COMMISSIONER CHAPMAN. >> JUST WANT TO SEND OUT MY BEST WISHES TO OUR FIRST RESPONDERS WHO ARE NOW IN QUARANTINE. 
          IT REALLY POINTS OUT THE DANGER THAT ALL OF OUR FIRST RESPONDERS PUT THEMSELVES DOING THE JOB TO PROTECT THIS COMMUNITY. 
          I WISH THEM LUCK AND HOPE MAYOR LUTHEIRLUCK IS GOOD AND THEY ST. 
          I HOPE EVERYBODY HAS A SAFE LABOR DAY. 
          REMEMBER TO SOCIAL-DISTANCE. >> COMMISSIONER LEDNOVICH. 
          >> THANK YOU MR. MAYOR. I'D LIKE TO THANK MR. ROSS FOR RECOGNIZING BEACH AMBASSADORS WHICH I AM A MEMBER. 
          I'LL BE CLEANING UP TOMORROW NIGHT. 
          IT'S A GREAT ORGANIZATION. YOU WOULD BE AMAZED AT WHAT WE 
          FIND. >> IS THERE A CLUB YOU'RE NOT A MEMBER OF? POLICE AUXILIARY? 
          >> WELL -- SO YOU'LL BE HEARING MORE ABOUT BEACH AMBASSADORS BECAUSE WE'RE STARTING OUR RECRUITMENT. 
          THERE WILL BE MORE NEWS ON THAT. I WANT TO THANK MS. BRYSON FOR HER CONTRIBUTION. THANK YOU SO MUCH. 
          I VISITED HER HOUSE. CAN I HAVE YOUR HOUSE? 
          >> HE DID A GOOD JOB. >> HE DID. 
          AND I LOOKED AT THE PLANNING AND IT'S VERY, VERY EFFECTIVE SO THANK YOU FOR MAKING THIS CITY GREAT. 
          AND THEN FINALLY, AS YOU TALKED ABOUT EARLIER IN COVID, PLEASE WEAR YOUR MASKS. PLEASE WEAR YOUR MASKS. 
          AND THE REALITY OF THE SITUATION THAT WE'RE IN, IS WE'RE ALL RESPONSIBLE FOR OUR OWN HEALTH. BECAUSE WE CAN'T RELY ON OTHER PEOPLE. SO WEAR YOUR MASK. 
          BE SAFE. DO NOT GO TO LABOR DAY EVENTS. 
          JUST DO NOT DO IT. AND DR. FOIC FAUCI SAID THAT TO. 
          >> COMMISSIONER CHAPMAN. >> AUGUST 31ST WAS THE LAST DAY, THE NESTING SEASON EXTENDS UNTIL THE 31ST OF OCTOBER. 
          THAT IS A GROUP OF VOLUNTEERS WHO ALSO CONTRIBUTE SIGNIFICANTLY TO THE PICKING UP OF TRASH EVERY DAY. 
          EVERY DAY EARLY IN THE MORNING. >> WOW. 
          >> THE ONLY OTHER THING IS, DID BARNABUS MLK FOOD GIVE AWAY IS THE 20TH, MLK SATURDAY THE 12TH, PROBABLY FROM 9, USUALLY STARTS FROM 9 UNTIL 12. LOTS OF FOOD TO GIVE AWAY. 
          AND YOU'RE ALL WELCOME. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 
          [03:25:02]
          >> THANK YOU. THAT WAS A VERY GENEROUS AWARD. 
          >> THANK YOU SIR. >> I WANT TO THANK AS WELL, THAT WAS VERY GENEROUS, VERY KIND OF YOU, IT'S NOT A LOT OF MONEY IN THE CITY BUDGET BUT FOR SOMEBODY SO TO STEP FORWARD AND DO THAT, THAT IS A NICE GESTURE. THANK YOU AGAIN SINCERELY. 
          AND YES WHEN IT COMES TO MASKS I WANT TO THANK THE FRONT LINE WORKERS WHO ARE ACTUALLY ENFORCING THIS. 
          WHEN I'M TALKING ABOUT THIS I'M TALKING ABOUT OUR SERVICE INDUSTRY WORKERS, OUR SHOP OWNERS, I'VE BEEN BARTENDING FOR 12 YEARS HERE AND I'VE DEALT WITH A LOT OF SITUATIONS, WHEN I WORKDAY SHIFTS BY MYSELF, I'M THE ONLY STAFF MEMBER THERE SOMETIMES IN THE ROOM I WORK IN AND I CAN TELL YOU THAT CUTTING PEOPLE OFF IS VERY DIFFICULT. GETTING PENAL NOT TO DRIVE TO TRY TO GET IN A CAB IS A VERY DIFFICULT SITUATION I'VE GONE THROUGH A LOT OF DIFFERENT SCENARIOS TRICKS AND TECHNIQUES TO MAKE THAT WORK. IT IS VERY DIFFICULT WHEN THAT DOOR OPENS TO GET SOMEONE TO PUT A MASK ON. 
          IT IS A DIFFICULT SITUATION, I WAS A POLICE OFFICER, MILITARY 20 YEARS, USED TO CONFLICT. I'M SEEING TEENAGE GIRLS AND GUYS AND SERVERS WHO ARE DOING THIS EVERY SINGLE DAY AND THE REASON THEY'RE DOING IT AND THE BEST ARGUMENT I'VE HEARD WHEN PEOPLE GIVE THEM A HARD TIME IS THAT IF ONE OF THE ORGANIZATIONS STATE OR COUNTY OR LOCAL COME IN AND WE'RE VIOLATED AND OUR RESTAURANT GETS SUSPENDED CLOSED DOWN OR LOSES ITS LICENSE IT'S NOT JUST ME BUT MY CO-WORKERS, I'M NOT GOING TO TAKE MONEY AWAY FROM THEM, ESPECIALLY AS HARD AS THINGS ARE RIGHT NOW. 
          I WANT TO THANK THOSE WHO ARE DOING IT ON A DAILY BASIS, HUNDREDS OF SOMETIMES A DAY, AND THEY HAVE TO GET INTO DISCUSSION HE AND POLITICAL DEBATES ABOUT WHETHER MASKS ARE EFFECTIVE, WHAT THE CURRENT KNOWLEDGE IS AND HOW YOU CAN'T BREATHE AND TO HAVE A 19-YEAR-OLD KID DO THAT 15, 20 TIMES DAY IS VERY IMPRESSIVE. SO I WANT TO THANK ALL THE MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITY THAT ARE DOING THAT EVERY SINGLE DAY. 
          AND SPEAKING OF SERVICE INDUSTRY WORKERS, LAST A CO-WORKER OF MINE KAYLA NORDE RVETIONN LOST HER FATHER IN THE LAST COUPLE OF DAYS. I WANT TO SEND MY CONDOLENCES OUT TO MS. NOR
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