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[Call to Order]

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>>> THIS IS THE CITY OF FERNANDINA REGULAR MEETING. IT IS 6:00 P.M.

MADAME CLERK IF YOU COULD PLEASE CALL THE ROLL. >> THE ROLL IS BEING CALLED.

>> IF WE COULD PLEASE RISE FOR THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE AND THE IMPLICATION WILL BE READ BY REVEREND NOEL ROBERTS OF THE NORTH 14TH STREET BAPTIST CHURCH.

>> I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE UNDER THE FLAG OF UNITED STATES OF AMERICA ONE NATION INDIVISIBLE WITH

LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. >> LET'S PRAY. HEAVENLY FATHER WE THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO GATHER HERE TODAY. WE PRAY FOR GUIDANCE AND DIRECTION. WE PRAY THAT THOSE WHO HAVE CONCERNS AND NEEDS, THAT EVERYTHING WE DO IS TAKEN INTO CONSIDERATION. WE THANK YOU SO MUCH THAT YOU HAVE GIVEN US THE GREATEST COUNTRY IN THE WORLD TO LIVE IN. WE PRAY FOR PEACE AND CALM.

WE THANK YOU THAT WE HAVE THE GREATEST COUNTY AND CITY TO LIVE IN.

WE PRAY THAT WE CAN BE THANKFUL AND GRATEFUL FOR OUR MANY BLESSINGS.

WE ASK THESE THINGS IN JESUS NAME, AMEN. >>> OKAY, WE HAVE A COUPLE OF PROCLAMATIONS TONIGHT. BEFORE THAT WE HAVE SOME CANDIDATES IN THE ROOM.

ANYONE ELSE? >> WE DO HAVE SOME MEMBERS HERE TO ACCEPT THIS.

[4.1 PROCLAMATIONS / PRESENTATION PROCLAMATION - WOMEN'S EQUALITY DAY]

>> HELLO. HELLO, HOW ARE YOU. >> I'M GOOD.

>> 100 YEARS AGO THE CONGRESS DESIGNATED AUGUST 26 AS WOMEN'S EQUALITY.

TO COMMEMORATE THE 19TH 20 CERTIFICATION OF THE 19TH AMENDMENT TO THE CONSTITUTION SECURING WOMEN THE RIGHT TO VOTE. THIS HISTORIC EVENT LED BY SELFRIDGE'S HAS FORMAL BEGINNINGS IN 1848. AT THIS TIME WOMEN WERE -- THE IDEA THAT ONLY TRUE WOMEN COULD BE A SUBMISSIVE WIFE, WHEREAS FOLLOWING RALLIES, MARCHES AND DEMONSTRATIONS, THE 19TH AMENDMENT WAS ADOPTED DECLINED FOR THE FIRST TIME WOMEN, LIKE MEN, DESERVE THE RIGHTS OF CITIZENSHIP. THEY COMMEMORATE THE EFFORTS AND CELEBRATE REMARKABLE ACHIEVEMENTS. AND REAFFIRM OUR COMMITMENT FOR ALL AMERICANS. AND WHERE'S WE CELEBRATE, WE HONOR THE WOMEN WHO HAVE FOUGHT FOR AND ACHIEVED THIS. THE ACCOMPLISHMENTS AND HAVE ENRICHED THE AMERICAN SPIRIT.

THE RESOLVE AND LEADERSHIP, CAN CHANGE THE WORLD AND WE CONTINUE TO INSPIRE OTHER GENERATIONS.

WITH THE AUTHORITY VESTED IN ME WE DO HERE FOR CLAIM AUGUST 26, AS WOMEN'S EQUALITY'S DAY.

AND CALL UPON THE PEOPLE OF FERNANDINA TO CELEBRATE THIS DAY TALK CONGRATULATIONS.

>> SO THEY WANT TO THANK THE CITY FOR AMERICANIZING THIS DAY. THIS GAVE WOMEN THE RIGHT TO VOTE. TODAY IS THE ACTUAL DAY, AUGUST 18, 1920 THAT TENNESSEE LEGISLATION WAS THE LAST STATE TO RATIFY THE 19TH AMENDMENT. IT DID NOT EMERGE OUT OF NOWHERE. IT HAD ROOTS IN THE MOVEMENT TO ABOLISH SLAVERY.

MANY OF -- WOMEN'S DAY IS ONE OF THE LONGEST MOVEMENTS IN THE HISTORY OF THE UNITED STATES.

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A HISTORY OF REVOLUTION MADE BY POLITICAL GENIUSES. RICH WOMEN, POOR WOMEN, BLACK WOMEN ALL WOMEN, ALL SORTS OF WOMEN. THEY FOUGHT FOR THIS RIGHT.

THEY TOOK TO THE STREETS. THEY HARASSED PRESIDENT WILSON INTO SUBMISSION.

THEY WERE TORTURED, BEATEN AND KILLED FOR THIS RIGHT. THE 19TH AMENDMENT WAS NOT THE END BUT THE BEGINNING. IT TOOK FOUR MORE YEARS FOR NATIVE AMERICAN WOMEN AND MEN TO BE CONSIDERED CITIZENS WITH VOTING RIGHTS. AND FOR ASIAN AMERICANS IT TOOK EVEN LONGER. MANY BLACK WOMEN WHO HAD SUFFRAGE ON PAPER COULD NOT EXERCISE THE RIGHT UNTIL MAXINE SIX -- 1965. THEY HAVE LITERACY TESTS SUCH AS GUESSING THE NUMBER OF JELLYBEANS IN A JAR. THIS MUST STOP.

SO WHEN YOU CAST YOUR VOTE ON NOVEMBER 3 OR WHEN YOU CAST YOUR VOTE EARLIER TODAY, THINK OF YOUR MOTHER, THINK OF YOUR GREAT-GRANDMOTHER AND THE IMPORTANCE OF THIS.

THANK YOU.

[4.2 PROCLAMATION - DR. FARID ULLAH]

FARID ULLAH. THE PROCLAMATION. >> I BELIEVE THE FIRE DEPARTMENT

IS HERE. >> GOOD JOB. >> WHEREAS DR. FARID ULLAH IS A CARDIOLOGIST SPECIALIST FOR MORE THAN 60 YEARS AND UNBRIDLED EXPERIENCE IN THE MEDICAL FIELD.

AS RATED IN 1960 AT THE PRESTIGIOUS -- HE WAS EMPLOYED AS A PROFESSOR.

AND WHEREAS HE SERVED IN THE UNITED STATES ARMY FROM 1969-1971.

HE WAS AMERICA'S ONLY CARDIOLOGIST WHO ESTABLISHED THE FIRST INTENSIVE CARE UNIT, AND IN MANY LOCATIONS. AND WHEREAS IN 1971, DR. FARID ULLAH MOVED TO FERNANDINA AND

BEGAN SHAKING UP THE DEPARTMENT. >> EXCUSE ME, DR. FARID ULLAH IS HERE.

>> OH, GREAT. I DIDN'T KNOW HE WAS HERE. >> WELCOME DOCTOR.

>> WHEREAS DR. FARID ULLAH IS A CARDIOLOGIST SPECIALIST WITH 60 YEARS OF EXPERIENCE IN THE MEDICAL FIELD. AN HE GRADUATED IN 1960 IN PAKISTAN WHERE HE IS EMPLOYED AS A PROFESSOR OF CARDIOLOGY. HE SERVED IN THE ARMY FROM 1969-1971.

DURING THIS TIME HE WAS THE ONLY CARDIOLOGIST TO ESTABLISH -- ESTABLISH THE FIRST SUCCESSFUL INTENSIVE CARE UNIT. IN 1971 HE MOVED TO FERNANDINA BEACH AND BEGAN SHAKING THE MEDICAL PROFESSION. DR. FARID ULLAH WAS INSTRUMENTAL IN SETTING UP THE RESCUE DIVISION 1972. HE TRAINED THE FIREMEN TO BECOME LICENSED PARAMEDICS.

HE ALSO FORMED MEDICAL SERVICES IN SOUTH AFRICA, FRANCE, PAKISTAN AND PARTS OF THE MIDDLE EAST. AND WHERE AS A BOARD EDUCATOR HE THOUGHT BASIC LIFE SERVICES, ADVANCED LIFE SUPPORT, ADVANCED LIFE SUPPORT AND PEDIATRIC LIFE-SUPPORT TO THOUSANDS OF HEALTHCARE PROFESSIONALS ALL OF THE UNITED STATES, CANADA, MEXICO AND JOHANNESBURG.

AND WHERE AS DR. FARID ULLAH IS CERTIFIED IN ADULT CARDIAC, CARDIOLOGY, CARDIAC CARE, ECHO

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CARDIOLOGY, EMERGENCY MEDICINE AND INTERNAL MEDICINE, PEDIATRIC CARDIAC, CONGENITAL DISORDERS AND HE HAD MANY PERMANENT ROLLS IN THE MEDICAL FIELD. HE IS RENOWNED, RESPECTED WITH HIS EXPERIENCE AND PIONEERING MEDICAL PROGRAMS WHICH HAS UNEQUIVOCALLY SAVED LIVES OF PATIENTS ACROSS THE GLOBE. WHERE HE IS INVITED TO SPEAK AT EVENTS WORLDWIDE.

HE IS THE MEDICAL DIRECTOR. THIS IS VERY IMPRESSIVE. AND ALTHOUGH HE HAS RETIRED, HIS SOUL SERVICE AS THE MEDICAL DIRECTOR, AND WHEREAS FOR MANY YEARS DR. FARID ULLAH VOLUNTEERED HIS TIME FREE OF CHARGE TO PERFORM PHYSICALS FOR HIGH SCHOOL STUDENTS AND DID HE POLICE OFFICERS, NASSAU COUNTY SHERIFF'S DEPRAVITIES. HE VOLUNTEERED IN MANY BEEN RELEVANT COMMUNITY ORGANIZATION SPIRIT NOW THEREFORE I, I AM HONORED BY THE AUTHORITY VESTED IN ME TOO HEREBY EXPRESS MY SINCERE APPRECIATION TO DR. FARID ULLAH FOR HIS LIFETIME OF CONTRIBUTIONS AND CARE FOR ALL LOGS HE HAS TOUCHED, TAUGHT AND SAY.

I ENCOURAGE CITIZENS TO GREATLY RECOGNIZE AND HUMBLY ACKNOWLEDGE THE IMPROVEMENTS HE HAS MADE TO THE MEDICAL PROFESSION. CONGRATULATIONS. .

>>

[4.3 BUDGET SUMMARY]

BUT LET'S GO ON. >> ITEM 4.3. THE BUDGET SUMMARY.

PAULINE TESTAGROSE IS HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. >> GOOD EVENING I'M PAULINE TESTAGROSE THE COMP CONTROLLER. THIS IS THE TENTH MONTH AND FOR THE GENERAL FUND, THE REVENUE IS AT 90% OF THE ANNUAL BUDGET. THIS IS DUE TO THE TIME OF PROPERTY TAXES AND RECEIPTS.

YOU WILL NOTICE THERE IS AN ADDITIONAL SCHEDULE IN THE MONTHLY REPORT FOR THE STATE REVENUE SOURCES. OVERALL YEAR TO DATE GENERAL FUND EXPENSES ARE BELOW THE MARK AT 65.9%. THERE ARE NO DEPARTMENTS OVER THIS MARK.

ALL TRANSFERS HAVE BEEN COMPLETED. WITH A CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT FUND IT HAS PAVEMENTS THAT HAVE BEEN ISSUED FOR IT, STREETS AND SIDEWALKS AND BEACH MONITORING.

GOLF COURSE REVENUE EXCEEDS EXPENSES DUE TO THE TRANSFER FROM THE GENERAL FUND.

AIRPORT REVENUES EXCEEDED EXPENSES DUE TO THE PAYMENT OF RENT, BUILDING AND LAND LEASES.

UTILITY FUNDS EXCEEDED EXPENSES EXCEPT FOR THE WATERFRONT. DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS?

>> I HAVE NO QUESTIONS I JUST HAVE TO COMMENT. THE FIRST COMMENT IS, IS ON REVENUE, MY FELLOW COMMISSIONERS YOU CAN SEE THERE IS A TWO-POINT $263 MILLION SHORTFALL ON THE REVENUE LINE. THIS IS FOR THE BUDGET YEAR. AND SECOND OF ALL, ON THE OTHER

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SIDE OF THE LEDGER, I WANT TO COMMENT ON CITY STAFF FOR BRINGING IN EXPENSES AND YOU CAN SEE THEY ARE AT 66% WHERE WE ARE AT 83%. WELL DONE.

[5.1 LAND CONSERVATION]

>> THANK YOU SIR. THIS IS ITEM 5.1. LAND CONSERVATION.

THE ITEM WAS PLACED ON THE AGENDA AT THE REQUEST OF COMMISSIONER.

>> MEETING, WE HAVE NOT HEARD FROM THE LAND TRUST. IN QUITE A WHILE.

SO I KNOW THEY HAD AN EVENT ON SATURDAY. WE WERE DRIVING SO UNFORTUNATELY I MISSED IT. DID ANY OF MY FELLOW COMMISSIONER FRIENDS ATTEND, I SEE COMMISSIONER RUSTED. THERE HAS BEEN THINGS ON SOCIAL MEDIA ABOUT A RIFT.

I WAS WONDERING IF ANYONE HAD AN UPDATE OR HEARD FROM THEM OR KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON.

>> COMMISSIONER ROSS I SEE YOUR LIGHT. >> OKAY YOUR GOOD.

YEP. >> SO, LAST SATURDAY, AT THE COUNTY OFFICE BUILDING, WE HAD A MEETING. WHERE THEY TALKED ABOUT THE MANAGEMENT PROGRAM.

AND I WOULD URGE YOU TO GO TO THEIR WEBSITE IT WAS A PRESENTATION AND THEY HAD AN EXTENSIVE POWERPOINT PRESENTATION. BUT BASICALLY, THEY WILL GO FORWARD WITH THE MANAGEMENT PLAN AND WHAT THEY ANNOUNCED WAS, MOVING FORWARD WITH THE CONSERVATION IN TWO YEARS FROM NOW. AS FOR THE RIFT -- IT SHOWED UP ON FACEBOOK. IT'S A SIGNIFICANT NOT REALLY A SIGNIFICANT PROBLEM.

MS. GIBSON WAS AT THE MEETING. WE TALKED ABOUT THE CONSERVATION PLAN AND GOING FORWARD WITH THE

BOND ISSUES. ANY QUESTIONS? >> MAYOR KREGER?

>> I JUST WANT TO REMIND THE PUBLIC I SAW CHECK FOR $23,000 WHICH WAS A MATCH TO THE DONATIONS. RIGHT NOW THERE'S $126,000 AVAILABLE FOR A MATCH TO PEOPLE WHO DONATE. SO THAT WOULD GIVE US ANOTHER $250,000.

>> I AM ENCOURAGING YOU GUYS TO THINK ABOUT DONATING SOME MONEY. LEAVING SOMETHING IN YOUR WILL IS ALWAYS SOMETHING TO DO. THANK YOU SO MUCH. DOES THAT CONCLUDE YOUR LAND

[5.2 WATERFRONT DEVELOPMENT]

CONSERVATION. THIS IS PLACED ON THE ITEM AND REQUEST FROM LEDNOVICH.

AND YESTERDAY, I UNDERSTAND THERE'S A NEW SCHEDULE TO DISCUSS DESIGN FOR THE WATERFRONT PARK AND THE RESILIENCY PLAN. SO THE CITY MANAGER COULD UPDATE ON US -- IF THE CITY MANAGER COULD GIVE AN UPDATE THAT WOULD BE GREAT.

>> I THINK I HAVE DISCUSSED WITH MOST OF YOU, ON SEPTEMBER 15 WE WILL HAVE TWO PRESENTATIONS THAT ARE INTERRELATED ONE IS FROM THE WATERFRONT RESILIENCY AND A COMBINATION OF THAT WILL BE THE PRESENTATION ABOUT THE WATERFRONT PARK DEVELOPMENT AND FOLLOWING THAT, IT WILL KICK OFF A 30 DAY PUBLIC COMMENT. AND WE WILL HAVE ALL OF THOSE THINGS FOLLOWING YOUR VISITATION. THAT WILL BE AVAILABLE WITH THE HOPE OF RETURNING THAT TO YOU ON THE OCTOBER 26 MEETING ON WHAT WAS PRESENTED. I'M TRYING TO KEEP UP WITH COMMISSIONERS CHAPMAN'S GOALS TO HAVE A PARK DESIGN APPROVED BEFORE HE LEAVES OFFICE.

SO, THAT IS WHERE WE STAND ON SEPTEMBER 15. >>> THANK YOU.

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>> ITEM 5.3. BEACHES. THIS ITEM IS PLACED ON THE

[5.3 BEACHES]

AGENDA AT THE REQUEST OF MAYOR KREGER. >> AS A SAID LAST MEETING, YOU WILL HAVE A COPY OF THE INITIATIVE GRANT. THIS IS CONSISTENT WITH WHAT HAS BEEN OUR PLAN TO DO WHAT WE DID LAST YEAR. WE WOULD'VE BEEN FURTHER ON IF IT HAD NOT BEEN VETOED. YOU CAN SEE THIS IS ALSO CONSISTENT WITH WHAT WE TALKED ABOUT. THIS IS A 112-FOOT INJURY ACT GRADE WHICH GOES TO AN 8-FOOT ELEVATION. THIS MEETS ADA REQUIREMENTS. WE COULD SAVE MONEY BY REDUCING THE RAMP. BUT THE SLOPE IS STILL REQUIRED. IT IS WELL WORTH IT.

IT IS $137,000. THIS IS FROM THE IMPACT FUNDS. THIS WAS DISCUSSED AND I WORKED WITH PARKS AND RECREATION AND IT'S ON THE NORTH THEN, IT IS ALSO THE CLOSEST TO THE HOUSES.

SO THIS IS DUE ON THE 26TH OF SEPTEMBER. WE CAN MOVE FORWARD WITH THE CONSENSUS OR WE CAN TALK ABOUT THE RESILIENCY, OF $500,000. SO IT'S ALSO CONSISTENT, WITH THE F DEP REQUIREMENT. AND, IT CAN BE DONE. WE IN THE PAST HAVE GOTTEN THIS.

THIS WOULD BE THE THIRD COASTAL PARTNERSHIP. WE GOT ONE LAST YEAR.

THE DEATHS WE HAVE BEEN VERY SUCCESSFUL. THE OPPORTUNITY IS GREAT.

THERE IS NO INFRASTRUCTURE FOR WHAT WE HAD. $75,000 AT NO MATCH.

IT WOULD BE ENGINEERED. AND THIS IS THE SAME PROCESS WE DID FOR LAST YEAR.

NFA. >> I HAVE A LITTLE DIFFERENT SPIN ON IT.

I BELIEVE THE PROPOSED PLAN IT ELIMINATES ONE QUARTER OF THE VALUE.

I ALSO BELIEVE THE PLAN COMES OUT AND WILL SUPPRESS THE ROADS BEFORE THEM.

TO ACHIEVE THE GOAL OF GETTING ADEQUATE FLOOD PROTECTION WHICH IS IMPORTANT WE NEED TO BUILD THE DUNES. ACCUMULATING SAND AND VEGETATION , A PROCESS THAT CAN OCCUR OVER A NUMBER OF YEARS. TO DO THAT WE HAVE TO HAVE IT AT AN ANGLE AND IN ONE PLACE.

THIS CAN BE DONE BY PUTTING UP SAND FENCING DURING THE WINTER MONTHS AND PLANTING VEGETATION IN THE SPRING AND ROPING THE AREAS OFF. TO DO THE ENTIRE NORTH END, WE ARE TALKING LESS THAN $5,000. TO DO THE ACT WE ARE TALKING -- AS WE KNOW, THERE IS NO PLAN AND IT WAS BROUGHT UP ON NUMEROUS OCCASIONS. WE HAVE NO TOTAL MANAGEMENT PLAN. SO I BELIEVE WE NEED TO DEVELOP A PLAN WITH A FUNDING SOURCE WHICH CAN BE CALLED OUT FROM THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND WE NEED A PROFESSIONAL PLAN SO I WOULD RATHER USE THIS GRANT FOR PLANNING THAT COMING UP WITH ANOTHER ONE AND THOSE ARE MY

THOUGHTS. >> MAYOR KREGER. >> WE HAVE A PLAN WE ADOPTED THE CORPS OF ENGINEERS PLAN HERE. IT'S A PLAN WE HAVE DONE. WE PUT IN FOR THE REMAINDER OF

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THE CAP SPIRIT IT'S AN OPPORTUNITY TO MOVE FORWARD. IT WILL PROTECT THE DUNES.

THIS IS JUST ANOTHER CASE OF CONSTRUCTION MOVING FORWARD. I GET, ON THE LAST 6-7 YEARS, I HAVE BEEN SIGNIFICANT IN GETTING MONEY FOR THE CITY, I EVEN CAME TO THE COMMISSION AND SOLD A PROGRAM AND WE CONSISTENTLY AND IT IS WE HAVE THE PLANS AND THE CREDIBILITY.

>> HERE'S SOMETHING WE CAN GET MATERIAL ON THE BEACH AND GET THIS CONSISTENT WITH THE CORE OF ENGINEERS PLAN AND CONSISTENT WITH WHAT WE HAVE ASKED FOR OVER THE YEARS.

>> COMMISSIONER ROSS? >> I AM NOTICING THAT WE HAVE THE SIMPLE PLAN.

I BELIEVE THIS PLAN, WILL CAUSE MORE DAMAGE THAN FIX THE PROBLEMS. THAT IS MY OPINION. I MAY BE WRONG. WE HAVE NO PLAN.

WE HAVE NO WAY OF DOING THE WHOLE PROPERTY. THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY TO DO THAT AND WE HAVE SOMEONE ELSE TO DO BUT WE HAVE NO CONSISTENT PLAN.

I WON'T KEEP GOING OVER BUT I BELIEVE, I WILL NOT SUPPORT THIS.

>> ARE WE, THIS IS A PROCEDURE QUESTION, ARE WE DECIDING ON THE PLAN IN THIS DISCUSSION, OR DOES

THE PLANT NEED TO BE ON THE AGENDA AS A RESOLUTION. >> THIS IS A DISCUSSION AND WE HAVE NOT DECIDED TO MAKE ANY OF THESE ACTION ITEMS. SO WE CANNOT DECIDE IT.

WE CAN PROVIDE THIS BUT IT HAS TO BE AT A LATER DATE. >>

>> MY SECOND.IS I'M CONFUSED. THE REASON I'M CONFUSED IS BECAUSE I AM NOT AN EXPERT ON THIS. WE APPLAUD ALL OF YOUR EFFORTS ON BEHALF OF OF THE DUNES AND THE WALKOVER'S AND EVERYTHING THAT YOU HAVE DONE. BUT QUITE FRANKLY I DON'T KNOW IF YOUR PLANS ARE GOOD OR NOT. I AM NOT AN EXPERT. AND I HAVE CONTRARY INFORMATION, FROM SOMEONE WHO IS EIGHT DUNES EXPERT AND I WOULD LIKE TO SEE A RESOLUTION AND HAVE THE EXPERTS TESTIFIED ON WHAT IS THE BEST PLAN GOING FORWARD. IF IT IS THE VICE MAYOR'S PLANNED GREAT, IF IT IS SOMEONE ELSE'S PLANT GREAT. BUT BEGIN WITH THE END IN MIND.

IT IS PROTECTION OF THE DUNES. I THINK WE ALL AGREE ON THAT. THOUGH I WOULD LIKE TO SEE A RESOLUTION ON THE AGENDA WITH EXPERTS COMING BEFORE US GIVING THEIR OPINION AND THEN WE CAN

DECIDE. >> THANK YOU. >> YOU TOOK THE WORDS RIGHT OUT

OF MY MOUTH. >> I THINK I KNOW OF AT LEAST ONE PERSON.

>> AS WAS POINTED OUT, THIS IS AN AGENDA ITEM ON THE SEPTEMBER 1 AGENDA TO APPROVE THE GRANT APPLICATION. WHERE IT STANDS RIGHT NOW, IT IS IN THE DEVELOPMENT STAGE AND FOR MAYOR KREGER'S OUTLINE. I THINK THE DRIVING POINT WILL BE, THE DEADLINE FOR THE GRANT APPLICATION IS SEPTEMBER 25. THAT IS WHY WE PUT IT ON THE SEPTEMBER 1 AGENDA TO GET FEEDBACK BECAUSE MIX JACOBS WOULD HAVE TO DO WORK TO COMPLETE THE APPLICATION ONCE IT IS CONFIRMED. IF WE WANT TO GET MORE EXPERT OPINIONS AND WE DO HAVE TWO WEEKS OR SO TO PULL MORE EXPERTS, ANY ONE OF THESE THAT YOU WANT TO HAVE OR OFFER

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INSIGHT INTO, WE CAN SEE IF THE PEOPLE ARE AVAILABLE THAT EVENING TO THIS ISSUE WITH THE

DECISION ON WHAT YOU WANT TO PURSU. >> THANK YOU SIR.

>> SO, IF WE PUT THE RESOLUTION ON SEPTEMBER 1 AS WRITTEN UNDER THE VICE MAYORS GRANT PLAN, IF WE WENT IN ANOTHER DIRECTION, WOULD WE STILL HAVE TIME TO CHANGE THE GRANT APPLICATION.

>> I THINK WE WOULD HAVE TIME. WE MAY GET A DIFFERENT ANSWER BECAUSE THEY ARE GRANT APPLICATIONS AND YOU ARE LOOKING FOR THIS. IF YOU WANT TO GO IN A DIFFERENT DIRECTION YOU MAY NOT HAVE TIME. I'M NOT SURE WITH THE DETAILS ARE BECAUSE WE WOULD HAVE TO HAVE IT BACK TO GET YOU TO ENDORSE IT ON SEPTEMBER 15 BECAUSE IT REQUIRES A GRANT FROM THE COMMISSION. SO, I WOULD EXPECT, IT WOULD BE DIFFICULT BUT IT COULD BE DONE

DEPENDING ON WHAT YOU WANT TO DO. >> THANK YOU.

>> IT IS CONFUSING WHEN WE TALK AND WE DON'T HAVE A PLAN. DID NO ONE READ THE ENGINEERING STUDIES ABOUT THE DUNES? WHICH WE ADOPTED. TENSILE IT'S FINE THAT WE GET A RESOLUTION BUT LET ME TELL YOU SOMETHING, THERE IS AN E-MAIL THAT I SENT AND I THINK YOU GUYS GOT IT. IT TALKS ABOUT QUALIFICATIONS. AND WHO ARE THE EXPERTS AND WHO ARE NOT. THIS REFERENCE, OF WHAT WAS A PLAN, AND I WILL SEND IT TO YOU AND DON'T DISCUSS IT IN PUBLIC, YOU WANT TO TALK ABOUT IT, LET'S GET ANSWERS LET'S GET THE CORPS OF ENGINEERS. WHEN YOU HAVE THE REPORT, AND IF YOU REALLY WANT TO KNOW THE TRUTH THE DUNES WILL FORM WHEN THEY WILL FORM. AND THE CORE OF ENGINEERS IS DIFFERENT BECAUSE THEY ARE INCORPORATING THE DUNES INTO THE BEACH WHICH HAS BEEN NOTHING BUT THE BEACH. SO LET'S GET THE CORPS OF ENGINEERS.

WE ALSO HAVE, ONE OF THE BEST CONSULTANTS IN THE STATE OF FLORIDA IF NOT THE COUNTRY, LET'S GET MR. OLSON IN HERE. THAT IS THE E-MAIL AND I WILL FORWARD IT.

BUT LET'S NOT SACRIFICE WHAT IS A SURE THING IN APPROVING OUR SITUATION HERE FOR WHATEVER REASON. YOU KNOW, WE HAVE DONE WELL WITH THIS.

THEY ARE ENGINEERED. THEY DO HAVE PLANS. THEY LOOK AT IT.

IT'S ALMOST LIKE THEY HAVE TAKEN ONE STEP FORWARD AND TWO STEPS BACK.

>> THANK YOU. >> ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU. TO THINK SPIRIT THE FUEL

[5.4 MARINA]

HOPEFULLY, THEY ARE DOING TESTING. TO MAKE SURE THEY WORK.

AND CALIBRATING. THEY ARE ALSO TESTING AND INSPECTING THE LINES, THIS WILL

BE THE NEXT 2-3 WEEKS. THE SECOND THING IS, -- >> ITEM 5.5.

[5.5 OCEAN HIGHWAY AND PORT AUTHORITY (OHPA)]

OCEAN HIGHWAY AND PORT AUTHORITY. THIS ITEM IS PLACED ON THE

AGENDA AT THE REQUEST OF COMMISSIONER ROSS. >> THERE WERE CONCERNS AND MAY BE THE CITY ATTORNEY CAN TALK ABOUT A. THERE WAS CONCERNS ABOUT THE LETTER THAT THE CITY ATTORNEY SENT TO PORT AUTHORITY. THEY ALSO TALKED ABOUT THE CHANNEL AND THEY BASICALLY SAID THE CITY IS NOT COOPERATING WITH THE EMPIRIC AND THE THIRD THING, IS THE INTENT, THE CURRENT CONDITION WILL LOOK AT THE CURRENT SITUATION.

>> THAT WAS THE LETTER THAT WAS SENT ON JULY 31. >> EVERYONE RECEIVED A COPY.

I SENT A LETTER TO THE PORT AUTHORITY, TO SHARE WITH THE PORT AUTHORITY.

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OUR CONCERNS WHICH WE HAVE DISCUSSED HERE A NUMBER OF TIMES AND BEFORE I SENT THE LETTER I SAID I WOULD DO IT I WAS GOING TO SEND THE LETTER AND YOU ALL RECEIVED A COPY.

THE LETTER WAS NOT INTENDED TO BE A FRIENDLY REMINDER. IT WAS INTENDED TO SAY THAT WE ARE BASICALLY EXASPERATED AND THE NEED TO COMPLY WITH THE LAW AND FOR THE HEALTH AND SAFETY OF THE COMMUNITY, STATE NEED TO PARTICIPATE WITH US IN PULLING PERMITS AND RECOGNIZING OUR LOCAL LAWS. AND THE MASTER PLAN IS ONE OF THE THINGS THAT SINCE 2014 HAS NOT BEEN DONE. AND THE EXPANSION IS UNACCEPTABLE, SOMETHING, THEY DO HAVE EMINENT DOMAIN POWERS. SWEEPING POWERS. SOMETHING THEY CANNOT EXPAND OR ACQUIRE OTHER PROPERTIES. THE CHALLENGE HERE DID NOT THEY ARE PUT ON NOTICE, BUT HE WAS VERY IRRITATED WITH THE LETTER AND ONE OF THE THINGS AND DR. ROSS SAID BECAUSE THE CITY ATTORNEY. I DIDN'T RECEIVE A CALL. BUT WE ARE HERE AGAIN SAYING ALL OF YOU KNOW THAT THE LETTER WAS SENT AND ALL OF YOU FEEL THE SAME WAY.

WE HAVE TO GET ALONG AS NEIGHBORS AND WE HAVE ISSUES WITH THEM AND WE WANT TO WORK TOGETHER. REGARDING THE CHANNEL IT'S AN INTERESTING CONCEPT.

THE LAST DRAFT OF THE AGREEMENT REGARDING THE CHANNEL WAS PRESENTED BY ME TOO THEM IN MADE TO THE FIRST DRAFT. WHEN I SENT THE DRAFT BACK I DID NOT RECEIVE ANYTHING.

I DID SPEAK WITH THEIR ATTORNEY AND I DID NOT RECEIVE A RESPONSE OR I WAS TOLD DIFFERENTLY.

THE LATEST, I GOT AN E-MAIL OUT OF NOWHERE, I THINK IT WAS FRIDAY OF LAST WEEK OR MONDAY THAT SAID, IT SAID IS YOUR COMMISSION STILL INTERESTED AND I SAID YES.

I SHARED THAT WITH MR. MARTIN. TO MAKE SURE WE WERE ON THE RIGHT TRACK.

AND HE SAID OKAY THANK YOU. SO THAT WAS THE CHANNEL ISSUE. WHAT WAS THE THIRD?

>> 0 ABOUT THE LITIGATION. THEY DEFEND TO DEFEND LITIGATION, I HOPE SO OR THEY WILL BE A DEFAULT. WE HAVE NOT FILED A COMPLAINT YET BUT, WHAT WE HAVE BEEN DOING BEHIND THE SCENES, THIS IS WHAT LAWYERS DO AND IT IS TO SAVE MONEY.

WE DO HAVE OUTSIDE COUNSEL AND WE CAN WORK THIS OUT. BUT THE LAST PHONE CALL WAS, HE WAS BACK ON THE POSITION THAT THE PAYMENTS WERE VOLUNTARY. SO THE COMPLAINT WILL BE FILED SOON. NOW FILING A COMPLAINT THAT PART IS NOT EXPENSIVE.

IF YOU FILE A COMPLAINT, YOU SERVE IT AND WE CAN WORK THIS OUT.

IT IS WHEN WE START GETTING INTO DISCOVERY AND DEPOSITIONS, AND BRINGING IN PEOPLE FROM 30-40 YEARS AGO TO TELL US WHAT THEY REMEMBER AND EMPLOYEE DOCUMENTS THAT IS WHEN IT GETS EXPENSIVE.

WE STILL HAVE TIME AND I AM STILL HOPEFUL THAT WE CAN'T WORK THINGS OUT.

THERE'S AN ELECTION. I DON'T KNOW IF THERE ARE EMPTY SEATS.

EVERYONE'S RUNNING FOR REELECTION. WE MAY NOT HAVE NEW COMMISSIONERS BUT WE MAKE. AND IF WE DO THERE MAY BE A DIFFERENT TONE.

ARE THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ABOUT WHERE WE ARE WITH THIS? I NEVER RECEIVED A FORMAL

WRITTEN RESPONSE TO THE LETTER. IT WAS JUST AT THE LAST MEETING. >>

>> MY PRIMARY CONCERN IS THAT WE MOVE FOR WORK WHAT THE MEDIATOR SAYS, AND WE GET A PILE OF

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PAYMENTS. HOPEFULLY WE WILL GET THE MASTER PLAN INCLUDED.

I DON'T KNOW WHAT THIS IS ABOUT'S BECAUSE WE DON'T NEED TO MOVE THE CHANNEL.

WERE NOT GOING TO MOVE THE MARINA NORTH ON THAT WHAT.-- THAT IS WHAT IT WAS ALL ABOUT.

>> SO IN YOUR MIND,. >> I HAVE SAID THIS OVER AND OVER.

WE KEEP GOING BACK TO THE CHANNEL. WE ARE NOT GETTING IT.

I HEAR ARGUMENTS LIKE IF WE HAD A HURRICANE. THAT MAY BE VALID BUT I THINK WE SHOULD MOVE AHEAD ON THE PILOT PAVEMENT, THE MEDIATION AND THE MASTER PLAN.

I THINK WE NEED TO LOOK AT THIS. I REMEMBER REALLY WELL WHAT HAPPENED.

SO, WE WILL REWRITE THE COMP PLAN. WE HAVE A CHANCE TO WORK WITH

THEM. >> I AM AWARE THAT THERE IS NO REAL HARD DEADLINE FOR MOVING THE CHANNEL BUT I DIDN'T WANT TO STATE THE CITY WASN'T INTERESTED.

>> TO ME, WE HAVE ALL OF THESE DIFFERENT THINGS. LET'S CONCENTRATE ON THE $50,000 PILOT PAYMENT THAT WE TALK TO AND THE MASTER PLAN WILL FALL INTO PLACE, I BELIEVE.

>> TO KEEP ADDING STUFF,. >> I'M KEEPING IN MY MIND THAT MY OFFICE AND DUTIES, THE INDICATION IS TOTALLY SEPARATE. I THINK THE OTHER WAS JUST LETTING THEM KNOW AFTER THE MEETING THAT WE ARE CONCERNED. IF THOSE ARE THERE PLANS THEN THAT IS NOT ACCEPTABLE TO THE CITY. JUST LETTING THEM KNOW RATHER THAN SITTING IDLY BY AND SOMEONE SAY WORLD THE CITY NEVER SAID THEY OBJECTED SO WE ARE JUST THINK WE OBJECT.

IT'S NOT PART OF THE COMMITTEE LITIGATION AT ALL. >> AND ANOTHER POINT, I KNOW WE HAVE TALKED TO PEOPLE AND THE STATE LAW THAT GOVERNS WHICH YOU MENTIONED, THEY DO HAVE DOMAIN.

THEY HAVE I THOUGHT THAT'S RIGHT ARE WE WORKING, OBVIOUSLY WERE NOT WORKING WITH THEM BUT WE ARE WORKING WITH A LEGISLATOR. EVERYONE WILL WORK TOGETHER, PORT, THE LEGISLATION DELEGATION, THE CITY WE ARE HOPING WE CAN GET CHANGES. HOW ARE THEY WORKING.

>> WE HAVEN'T SAT DOWN YET BUT THAT IS INTENDED, BECAUSE IF THEY ARE NOT WORKING I THINK IT

WILL BE DIFFICULT TO CHANGE IT. >> ABSOLUTELY. >> COMMISSIONER ROSS, THE REASON THIS WAS BROUGHT UP OFTEN AND THE ADVISORY BOARD SAID IT IS IF WE HAVE ANOTHER ISSUE, WE HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE PROCESS AGAIN. SO IT IS A BACK BURNER ISSUE BUT AT SOME POINT WE SHOULD LOOK AT THAT THE MASTER PLAN WAS SUPPOSED TO BE DONE BY THE PERSON LITIGATING THE PAYMENTS.

SO I'M NOT SURE WHERE THE MASTER PLAN IS WITH THAT. >> IT DOESN'T BODE WELL FOR THE

MASTER PLAN. >> NOT WITH THAT CONSULTANT. >> MY UNDERSTANDING WAS THEY

WOULD USE THAT CONSULTANT. >> 0 THERE'S LOTS OF CONSULTANTS.

THAT SHOULDN'T BE THE ISSUE. >> ARE THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS?

>> THANK YOU. >> ARE WE GOOD. >> ITEM 5.6.

[5.6 COVID-19]

COVID-19. GIVE US AN UPDATE, ARE WE UP TO DATE ON ALL OF THE ORDERS AND

TIME FRAMES? >> WHICH EVERYONE. >> THANK YOU.

>> YES AS FAR AS I UNDERSTAND WE ARE UP-TO-DATE ON ALL OF OUR EMERGENCY ORDERS.

I KNOW WE ARE CRAFTING MORE. AND WE ARE REVISING A CHARTER BUT OTHERWISE ALL OF OUR ORDERS ARE CURRENT AND WE STAND AND WAIT FOR THE GOVERNOR TO THROW MORTISE.

>> THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER LEDNOVICH. >> THANK YOU.

ONE WAIT YOU KNOW YOU'RE GETTING OLD IF YOU SPEND TWO HOURS DOING STATISTICS.

FILL OUT YOUR SHEET AND THEN YOU LEAVE THE SHEET AT HOME. BUT FORTUNATELY I DO REMEMBER THE NUMBERS. SO, THIS IS A GLASS HALF EMPTY GLASS THAT'S RIGHT GLASS HALF-FULL SITUATION. WE ARE AVERAGING 11 CASES. DAY.

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8% POSITIVITY RATE. AND THAT IS THE GOOD NEWS. NOW THE GLASS IS HALF-EMPTY IS THAT ONE MONTH AGO, WE WERE AVERAGING 25. DAY WITH A POSITIVITY RATE OF 10%. SO THE NUMBERS HAVE COME DOWN, BUT I WOULD LIKE FOR YOU TO CONSIDER THIS AND MAYBE DR. ROSS WILL, MAYBE CHIME IN, ONE MONTH AGO WE WERE AVERAGING 368 TESTS.

DAY THIS PAST WEEK, WE AVERAGED 165. SO HALF.

SO WE ARE TESTING HALF AS MANY PEOPLE WHICH IS WHAT I BELIEVE LEADS TO THE LOWER POSITIVITY RATE. AND AS I SAID, AND COMMISSIONER ROSS CAN COMMENT ON THAT IF HE CHOOSES. THE SECOND ITEM I WANT TO BRING UP IS THAT I HAVE RECEIVED TWO COMPLAINTS ABOUT THE GREEN TURF. AND THE COMPLAINTS BEING PEOPLE ARE GOING TO THE GREEN TURTLE NO SOCIAL DISTANCING, NO FACE COVERINGS, AND NO OCCUPANCY REQUIREMENTS MEETING THE REQUIREMENTS OF 50%. SO ACCORDING TO THESE NOTICES THAT I RECEIVED, THE PLACE WAS PACKED NO FACE COMFORTING AND NO SOCIAL DISTANCING. NO CONTROL.

SO JUST PUT THAT ON THE RECORD. >> CAN YOU COME UP REALLY QUICK AND GO OVER THE PROCEDURES.

WHAT STEPS THEY SHOULD TAKE BECAUSE. >> ON THE CITY'S WEBSITE IS THE LINK TO THE STATE'S DEPARTMENT OF BUSINESS AND PROFESSIONAL LICENSING.

SO IF SOMEONE HAS A CONCERN THEY CAN FILE A COMPLAINT. OR WE HAVE, COMPLAINTS THAT CAN BE HANDLED THROUGH CODE ENFORCEMENT OR THE POLICE DEPARTMENT.

>> THANK YOU SIR. >> VICE MAYOR KREGER. >> THERE ARE SOME THINGS, WE DO HAVE 13 DEATHS AND HOSPITALIZATIONS ARE UP TOO. BUT THE NUMBERS DO SEEM TO STABILIZE. ACTUALLY, 6% POSITIVITY BUT I DON'T PUT CONFIDENCE IN THAT BECAUSE THE NUMBER OF TESTS AND THAT COULD CHANGE. I HAVE BEEN TALKING TO PEOPLE AND THROUGH E-MAILS AND I'M SURE SOME OF YOU HAVE SEEN THEM. AND I KNOW I'M NOT GOING TO GET INTO A BOOK CHIP HAS DONE SOME THINGS IN OUR POSITION HAS BEEN WE WILL WAIT UNTIL THE 24TH, IS THAT RIGHT DALE? AND SCHOOL BACK AND SEE WHERE THEY ARE AT ON CONSIDERATION FOR OPENING THE FIELDS. WITH THAT I KNOW CHIP HAS DONE SOME STUFF ON THAT AND I BELIEVE

THAT UP TO HIM TO DISCUSS. >> SO, ON SUNDAY, I SPOKE TO THE SCHOOL SUPERINTENDENT AND SHE REPORTED THAT THE HIGH SCHOOL ASSOCIATION AND THE STATE OF FLORIDA VOTED TO VOTE OUT TEAM SPORTS. AND WE HAVE BEEN APPROACHED BY A NUMBER OF ORGANIZATIONS TO ALLOW THE USE OF THE CITY FIELDS. SO WITH THAT IN MIND, I CAME UP WITH AN IDEA THAT I THINK IS A WAY TO MOVE FORWARD AND WHAT WOULD BE REQUIRED FROM THE ORGANIZATION WOULD BE A WRITTEN PLAN TO ALLOW ORGANIZED YOUTH SPORTS DURING THE PANDEMIC MUST BE SUBMITTED AND APPROVED BY THE PARKS AND RECREATION DEPARTMENT PRIOR TO THE USE OF THE FIELD BY ANY.

THE PLAN WOULD HAVE TO FALL UNDER A HEALTH DEPARTMENT FOR EACH TEAM'S WORK.

PEOPLE ARE LYING, THE NATIONAL ORGANIZATIONS HAVE A METHOD OF WHAT THEY FEEL IS A SAFE WAY TO OPERATE TEAM SPORTS. AND THE PLAN WOULD HAVE TO INCLUDE A STATEMENT OF HOW THE GUIDELINES WOULD BE IN FORCE AND BY WHOM. THE PLANT WOULD HAVE TO CONTAIN A STATEMENT ON WHAT WOULD HAPPEN IF THE PLAN IS NOT FOLLOWED. AND BEFORE PARTICIPATING THE ORGANIZATION WOULD HAVE TO OBTAIN A WAIVER FOR THE CHILD TO PARTICIPATE IN THE CITY ATTORNEY WOULD PROVIDE THE WAIVER. INITIALLY THE FIELDS WOULD BE OPEN FOR PRACTICE ONLY BUT WHEN THEY HAVE COMPETITIONS, THE CITY WOULD ALLOW COMPETITION TO CONTINUE.

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SO THAT I THINK IS A REASONABLE WAY TO PROCEED. >> VICE MAYOR.

>> I JUST WANT TO MAKE A COMMENT AND I'M SURE EVERYONE KNOWS. I WANT TO SAY IT ANYWAY.

I HAVE A BUNCH OF KIDS AND GRANDKIDS. THE ULTIMATE RESPONSIBILITY IN WHAT THEY DO AND WHAT THEY DO WITH THE PLAY IS THE PARENTAL RESPONSIBILITY.

SO WHATEVER THE GOVERNMENT MAKES PARENTS WILL MAKE THE FINAL DECISION.

>> AS WELL AS THE WELL-BEING OF THE PARTICIPANTS, I THINK THE OTHER CONCERNS ARE THE SPECTATORS. AND HOW DO YOU CONTROL THE SPECTATORS AND WHO WILL ENFORCE

THAT. >> WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE NATIONAL PLANS WE ALL TALK ABOUT

SPECTATORS. >> SO THAT WOULD HAVE TO BE CLEARED.

>> AND WHO WILL WRITE THIS PLAN. >> WHOEVER WANTS TO COME USE ARBOR FIELDS THEY WILL THE

ORGANIZATION HAS TO PRODUCE A PLAN. >> THEY HAVE TO, I GOT IT.

>> THEY WILL SUBMITTED TO THE PARKS AND RECREATION. >> MY ONLY QUESTION IS, WHO AND HOW WILL THIS GET ENFORCED. WE HAVE A MANDATORY FACE COVERING FOR INDOORS AND YET WE ALL KNOW THERE ARE LOTS OF PEOPLE WHO ARE NOT WEARING FACE COVERINGS.

WE HAVE HAD PEOPLE SIT IN THESE CHAMBERS WITH THEIR FACE COVERINGS UNDER THEIR NOSE, NOT APPROPRIATE. SO THESE ARE GREAT ON PAPER, BUT WHO WILL ENFORCE IT.

AND IF THERE IS NO ENFORCEMENT, IT IS NOT WORTH THE PAPER IT IS WRITTEN ON.

I NEED TO SEE, VERY CLEAR AND IT CAN'T BE THE ORGANIZATION THAT GOVERNS THEMSELVES.

SOMEBODY HAS TO BE RESPONSIBLE FOR SAYING, YOU ARE NOT FOLLOWING THE RULES AND WE WILL HAVE TO SHUT THE FIELD DOWN AND ELIMINATE YOUR ACTIVITY. THAT IS MY FEELING.

>> COMMISSIONER. >> I WOULD SUPPORT WHAT HE SAID. I WENT TO WALMART ON SUNDAY, A GUARD WAS OUTSIDE. IF YOU DIDN'T WEAR A FACE COVERING YOU COULDN'T GO INSIDE.

END OF STORY. THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT COMMISSIONER CHAPMAN IS REFERRED TO AND WE HAVE TO HAVE THE ENFORCEMENT. TO GO ALONG WITH THE PLAN.

>> SO IN NUMBER TWO AND NUMBER THREE BACK IT SPEAKS TO THAT. IT SAID THE PLAN MUST INCLUDE A STATEMENT ON HOW THE GUIDELINES WILL BE ENFORCED AND BY WHOM. AND THEN IF THEY ARE NOT

FOLLOWING THE GUIDELINES, THERE WILL BE CONSEQUENCES. >> MY ONLY OTHER COMMENT ON THAT, AND I THANK COMMISSIONER ROSS FOR PUTTING THIS TOGETHER, IS APPROVAL BY THE PARK CENTRIC DEPARTMENT. THEY ARE NOT EXPERTS ON THE PANDEMIC.

OR THE SPREAD OF VIRAL DISEASE. SO, I THINK WE NEED TO WORK WITH COUNTY HEALTH AND HAVE THEIR

STAMP OF APPROVAL. >> WE DO HAVE THE NATIONAL ORGANIZATIONS AND IT IS PRETTY COMPREHENSIVE AND WELL DONE. THEY ARE WELL DONE. SO I THINK THEY CAN ADOPT THE NATIONAL PLAN. THAT WOULD BE REASONABLE. BUT WE COULD ALSO, PUT IN THERE

THAT WE WANT THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT. >> IF ANYBODY HAS LISTENED TO THE NEWS WE HAVE HEARD COLLEGES, PUBLIC SCHOOLS, OUR PLAN IS SOLID.

WE WILL PROTECT OUR KIDS. TWO DAYS AFTER THEY OPEN THEY CLOSE BECAUSE THE KIDS SHOWED UP POSITIVE. WHEN YOU HAVE COLLEGES SENDING KIDS HOME AFTER THEY DRAG THEM TO THE CAMPUS. AMBER COLLEGE SAID THEY WOULD PROTECT THEIR KIDS, PEOPLE ARE PEOPLE. WE SOCIAL COLLECT, WE DON'T SOCIAL DISTANCE.

SO AGAIN, I THINK THE BEST LAID PLANS OF MICE AND MEN ALSO DIDN'T GO ASTRAY.

AND, AS FAR AS WHO WILL ENFORCE IT, DO WE HAVE GUIDELINES AS TO WHO SHOULD ENFORCE IT BECAUSE AN

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ORGANIZATION MAY COME UP AND SAY WHILE WE HAVE PARENTS WHO MAY COME AND ENFORCE IT THEY MAY SAY REALLY. DOWNTOWN. AGAIN, WE DO NOT ENFORCE THE MASK -- FACE COVERINGS ORDER DOWNTOWN. WE ARE RELYING ON THE BUSINESS OWNER. UNTIL I SEE, COMPETENT PEOPLE, WHO CAN SAY, MR. AND MRS. JONES, SORRY BUT YOU WILL HAVE TO LEAVE BECAUSE YOU ARE NOT PUTTING YOUR FACE COVERING ON.

AND I DON'T SEE THAT HAPPENING. >> COMMISSIONER LEDNOVICH. >> MY LAST QUESTION WOULD BE A LEGAL ONE. TO COMMISSIONER CHAPMAN'S POINT ON ENFORCEMENT.

IF A, PARENT, IF A SPECTATOR, OR A PARTICIPANT, WERE INFECTED, ON A CITY FIELD, AND WE FAILED TO

PROVIDE THE ENFORCEMENT, WOULD WE BE OPEN TO LIABILITY? >> NO.

IF WE SELECTIVELY ENFORCED AND I SAY THAT IT EMPHATICALLY AND QUICKLY LIKE THAT BECAUSE ENFORCEMENT, AND IF WE WERE NOWHERE TO BE FOUND AND THERE WERE E-MAILS AND COMPLAINTS THAT WERE IGNORED THAT WOULD BE A DIFFERENT STORY BUT WHETHER OR NOT A PARTICULAR COMPLAINT THAT MAY OR MAY NOT HAVE LED TO AN INFECTION OR A BEING THAT IS NUMBER ONE.

WE DON'T, THE SHORT ANSWER IS WE DON'T KNOW AS LAWYERS WHAT KIND OF LOSSES WILL COME OUT OF THIS BUT I WOULD AND THERE WILL BE SOME. IT IS A LITIGIOUS SOCIETY BUT I DON'T THINK THAT'S RIGHT THERE IS RISK ANYTIME WE OPEN OUR FACILITIES, PEOPLE CAN GET HURT.

WITH THIS, THAT IS NOT MY FIRST THOUGHT, MIGHT FIRST THOUGHT IS ACTUAL TRANSMISSION AND INFECTION. AND THE PUBLIC HEALTH CONSEQ IT'S NOT LIABILITY TO OUR CITY. WE CAN HAVE A WAIVER, THEY ONLY GO SO FAR.

AS I EXPLAINED TO DR. ROSS THIS MORNING AND THE COMMISSIONER AND VICE MAYOR, THE BESTIE COULD DO IS CAUSE A CHILLING EFFECT OF THE FAMILY WHO MAY OR MAY NOT HAVE HAD A SICK CHILD OR PERSON AND THEY SAY, WE CANNOT DO ANYTHING, WE SIGNED A WAIVER. THAT DOES WORK TO STOP PEOPLE FROM MOVING FORWARD. SOMETIMES THEY DON'T MAKE THE CALL BUT SOMETIMES IN REALITY FOR THE CASE THAT COMES OUT OF THIS AND SOMEONE FILED SUIT, THE WAIVER IT ITSELF IS SO FAR DOWN THE LINE USUALLY AT THE SUMMARY JUDGMENT PHASE, IF YOU GET THAT FAR, AND YOU HAVE ALREADY SPENT MONEY, YOU CAN'T GET OUT OF IT IN THE BEGINNING. YOU CAN'T SAY THAT'S RIGHT THE JUDGES ARE NOT DISMISSING CASES BASED ON THAT. SO THERE IS A LIMITED EFFECT BUT THE REALITY IS WE DON'T KNOW WHAT LAWSUITS WILL COME OUT OF THIS AND JUST BECAUSE OUR SOCIETY IS OPEN, AND SOME OF MY COLLEAGUES FEEL THE SAME WAY, FROM THE PRESIDENT DOWN TO THE GOVERNOR, TO THE COUNTY GOVERNMENT, WE ARE OPEN. WE ARE OPEN FOR BUSINESS.

AND BETWEEN YOU AND THE CITY MANAGER, YOU WILL HAVE TO GIVE DIRECTION TO THE CITY MANAGER.

IT'S LOOKING LIKE MR. RAY WILL HAVE TO WEIGH IN BECAUSE I KNOW THE PARKS AND RECREATION DEPARTMENT IS GETTING DAILY INQUIRIES ABOUT THIS. AND WE USE, WE ARE TALKING ABOUT ORGANIZED SPORTS. AND I MAY BE MISSING SOME BUT POP WARNER, BABE RUTH, AND THE SOCCER CLUB. THEY ALL HAVE AFFILIATION TO THIS.

THEY ARE A NATIONAL GROUP. IT IS NOT LIKE WE HAVE THE ABC CLUB THAT WILL HAVE SOMETHING TO LOOK TOO. THEY WILL HAVE SOMETHING TO LOOK TO.

AT I DON'T HOW THE CITY MANAGER FEELS BUT, MAYBE YOU NEED TO REVIEW WHAT IS SENT.

THIS JUST OPENS THE DOOR. UNLESS YOU TELL US TONIGHT THAT THREE OF YOU ARE NOT INTERESTED FOR THE NEAR FUTURE AND HAVING TEAM SPORTS ON THE FIELD WHICH IS ASSET YOU CONTROL.

WE HAVE TO HAVE SOME DIRECTION. BUT THIS WOULD ALLOW US TO CONSIDER.

IT DOESN'T MEAN WE WILL ALLOW IT BUT IT WILL LET US CONSIDER THE RULES AND PROTECTIONS.

>> THAT WAS MY SECOND.PROCEDURALLY. THIS COVID-19, WE WERE USING EMERGENCY POWERS TO PASS RESTRICTIONS OR RESOLUTIONS AND, AT OUR LAST MEETING WE HAD AN

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OPENING AND WE HAD CONSENSUS AROUND THAT. >> I DON'T THINK.

>> I THINK YOUR DISCUSSION WAS, AND I BELIEVE IT WAS MS. PHILLIPS WHO WE REFERRED TO, THAT WE WOULD REEVALUATE THE CLOSURE, BEGINNING AUGUST 24 BECAUSE THAT DATE WAS TIED TO THE REOPENING OF SCHOOLS AND THE DISCUSSION WAS SCHOOLS ARE MORE EQUIPPED TO HANDLE LARGE NUMBERS OF KIDS AND ADULTS LET'S SEE HOW THE SCHOOLS HANDLE IT BEFORE WE DECIDE WHAT TO DO WITH OUR FIELDS. I THINK ONE OF YOU, I THINK MR. CHAPMAN SAID YES THE SCHOOLS ARE GREAT PLANTS AND ONE WEEK LATER, THE PLANTS GO OFF OF THE RAILS.

THE DISCUSSION WASN'T TO REOPEN BUT TO BEGIN REVALUATIONS OF THE CLOSURE POLICY AND THAT MAY GIVE US TIME, IF YOU WANT TO FOLLOW COMMISSIONER ROSS, WE CAN AT LEAST ADVISE THE ORGANIZATION THAT OKAY AS PART OF OUR REVALUATION, PROVIDE US THE INFORMATION, AND WE WILL FILE THAT AS TO WHETHER WE REOPEN BECAUSE AGAIN, AS I THINK COMMISSIONER ROSS POINTED OUT IN HIS DISCUSSION AND I SHARED AN E-MAIL WITH YOU, THE FLORIDA HIGH SCHOOL ATHLETIC ASSOCIATION OVERRULED THEIR OWN MEDICAL BOARD, THEIR MEDICAL BOARD RECOMMENDED THAT, ORGANIZED ACTIVITIES, ATHLETIC ACTIVITIES DO NOT BEGIN AGAIN UNTIL THE END OF SEPTEMBER.

SEPTEMBER 24. >> CORRECT. AND THE BOARD OVERRULED THEIR MEDICAL ADVICE. SO AGAIN, WE ARE WALKING BLINDLY BECAUSE WE ARE NOT EXPERIENCED WITH THIS SPIRIT I THINK THE AUGUST 24 DATE WE HAVE IS TO REEVALUATE.

IF YOU WANT TO FOLLOW THROUGH WE CAN GLADLY SHARED THE PLANT WITH THE AFFECTED ORGANIZATIONS AND SAY GIVE US YOUR PLAN. ARE YOU GOING HIGHER SECURITY GUARD BECAUSE I DON'T SEE A PARENT. AND THEN SAY I HAVE TO KICK YOU &-@. DOES THERE HAVE TO BE OUTSIDE ENFORCEMENT. AS WAS POINTED OUT THAT IS PART OF THEIR PLAN. THAT WILL BE PART OF OUR REEVALUATION PROCESS.

>> THANK YOU SIR. >> VICE MAYOR? >> ?

>> WE DID NOT COMMITTED TO REOPENING THE FIELDS. AND I THINK IT IS APPROPRIATE, I WOULDN'T BE OPPOSED TO SENDING THIS TO THEM AND SEE IF THEY COME UP WITH A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. WE STILL DON'T HAVE TO OPEN THE FIELDS.

I FIND IT DISCOURAGING THAT, THEY OVERRULED THE MEDICAL STAFF.

THAT IS KIND OF INTERESTING. I CAN SEE HOW IT HAPPENED. THE BIG TEN IS INCHING BECAUSE THEY CANCELED THEIR SEASON, AND, THE TWO SCHOOLS THAT REALLY HAD THE INFO SINCE, MICHIGAN AND MICHIGAN STATE WHICH HAS DOCTORS OF THEIR PRESIDENTS. I THINK THE PRESSURE WILL BE ON AND WE NEED TO LOOK AT IT AND WE SHOULD LOOK AT IT. I HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH THEM COMING UP WITH THE PLANT BUT WE ARE NOT COMMITTED TO REOPENING. THAT IS NOT HAPPENING.

NOT AT THIS POINT, IN MY MIND. >> YEAH, I AGREE. GO AHEAD AND PUT THIS INFORMATION OUT THERE AND SEE WHAT WE COME BACK WITH. BUT THE ULTIMATE DECISION WILL BE ON YOU WHETHER TO ACCEPT THE PLAN. I THINK THAT NEEDS TO BE A COMMUNITY DECISION. SO AGAIN, AUGUST 24 IS A DATE FOR RECONSIDERATION.

I CAN COME BACK TO YOU AT THE NEXT MEETING SAY HERE IS THE PLAN SUBMITTED.

AS SHARE WITH YOU AS THEY COME IN. AND BE PREPARED TO DISCUSS THIS

AS PART OF OUR SEPTEMBER 1 MEETING. >> I'M GOOD.

THE LAST POINT WILL MAKE, IS THAT ANYONE WHO HAS WATCHED A BASEBALL GAME, A GOLF TOURNAMENT, HAS NOTICED THERE ARE NO FANS. THERE ARE 0 SPECTATORS.

THAT IS OUT THEY ARE TRYING TO CONTROL THE VIRUS. 0 SPECTATORS.

>> SO, IT SOUNDS LIKE WE HAVE A CONSISTENT AND THE MAJORITY OF YOU TO PLANET WE TALKED ABOUT, COMMISSIONER ROSS AND I TALKED ABOUT IT. THIS WILL GET REWORDED.

I WILL SHARE IT TOMORROW. I ALREADY SENT A 10:00 A.M. APPOINTMENT.

SHE WILL WRITE IT UP AND ONE OF THE STAFF MEMBERS WILL COMMUNICATE THAT THIS IS WHAT WE

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EXPECT. MAYBE A WEEK OR EIGHT DAYS TO DO IT.

WE WOULD NEED IT AS BACKUP IF WE WILL HAVE THE PLANTS BY AUGUST 29 BY THE SEPTEMBER 1 MEETING. SO WE WILL WORK TO GET THAT DONE.

THEN AGAIN, IT WILL BE IN YOUR HANDS. AND WE NEED MORE TIME.

ONE IS I SENT YOU AN E-MAIL BUT THE GOVERNOR DID AND IT'S EARLY FOR THIS ISSUE BUT DID EXTEND THE MEETING. EXTENDED THE EXECUTIVE ORDER TO ALLOW FOR VIRTUAL MEETINGS UNTIL OCTOBER 1. WE DO HAVE ANOTHER MONTH. I I WANT TO SAY SCHOOL STARTS AUGUST 24. I KNOW THE SCHOOL DISTRICT IS AWARE THAT THE CITY HAS A MASS ORDER AND WE ARE ENFORCING THAT. IT IS ENFORCEABLE INSIDE OF THE PRIVATE AND PUBLIC SCHOOLS.

SO WHEN THE CHILDREN GO BACK ON MONDAY, I EXPECT TO FIND IF THEY WILL WEAR FACE COVERINGS.

WE HAVE HAD, WE HAVE HAD A PRIVATE SCHOOL HERE IN THE CITY LIMITS WHERE I RECEIVED A COMPLAINT FROM THE PARENTS WHERE COVERING. THERE WAS CONFUSION.

I DISCUSSED THIS WITH THE PARENT AND I THINK THIS WAS A LACK OF COMMUNICATION.

AND ALL OF THEIR EMPLOYEES, STUDENTS AND TEACHERS SHOULD WEAR FACE COVERINGS.

>> ANY OTHER COVID-19 ISSUES CRACKS. >> ONTO ITEM 5.7.

[5.7 ESCAMBIA STREET]

ESCAMBIA STREET. THIS ITEM IS PLACED ON THE AGENDA AT THE REQUEST OF

COMMISSIONER ROSS. >> THIS IS ABOUT THE ESCAMBIA'S SLOUGH.

THIS IS ANOTHER WORD FOR MARCH. IT IS THE OUTFALL OF THE WETLAND SYSTEM THAT BEGINS EAST OF NORTH 14TH STREET AND FLOWS WEST UNDER THE NORTHEAST STREET AND IN THE ALLIGATOR CREEK BETWEEN THIS AREA. THE SYSTEM IS IN CITY LIMITS. IF YOU COULD PUT IT UP.

THE NEXT TWO SLIDES. SO THE FIRST SLIDE, IS THIS. THIS IS A WATER BASE AND ID NUMBER. AND I WILL GET UP. FLORIDA DEPARTMENT AND ENVIRONMENT, AS BUSINESS. IT'S IMPORTANT BECAUSE NOW THAT THE FLORIDA DEPARTMENT WILL BE TESTING AND OTHER THINGS TO DETERMINE THE WATER QUALITY SO IT'S IMPORTANT FOR STUFF I SPOKE TO THEM SEVERAL MONTHS AGO AND GOT THAT GOING. AND SO, YOU CAN SEE THIS RIGHT HERE. IT IS THE YELLOW. IF YOU GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE, IN THAT WE BID -- WIVID. I DON'T LIKE -- SO THIS IS THE WATERSHED IT SELF.

THESE LITTLE THINGS ARE MAMMALS. YOU CAN SEE OUR SEWER SYSTEM DOES NOT GO DOWN INTO YOUR.

SO, ONE OF THE CONCERNS, IS THAT WE GOT A LOT OF LETTERS ABOUT THE E. COLI HERE.

AND THE SEWER SYSTEM. I SHOWED THE MAP THAT SHOWS THE CURRENT SEPTIC SYSTEM HERE AND I BELIEVE, THE FACILIY HAS A SYSTEM AND I THINK THERE'S TWO HOUSES OF BEER THAT MAY HAVE SYSTEMS AND THESE HAVE A SEPTIC SYSTEM. SO, BUT THESE WILL EVENTUALLY BE PUT ON SEWER AND THEY WILL HAVE TO EXTEND THE SEWER LINES. AND THIS CAN BE DONE RELATIVELY

EASILY. >> SO SINCE THE 3RD AND 1ST OF JULY THE COMMISSIONERS I'VE RECEIVED THREE E-MAILS CONCERNING THE ESCAMBIA SLOUGH. ONE FROM THE ST. MARY'S RIVER KEEPER AND TO WERE FROM CONCERNED RESIDENTS ABOUT POLLUTION.

AND THE SAME BOARD HAS BEEN SUPPORTING THE CLEANUP WITHIN THE CITY FOR THE PAST TWO YEARS WHICH IS GREAT. AS PART OF THE EFFORT THEY CREATED A GROUP OF TESTING VOLUNTEERS WHO HAVE BEEN ABLE TO MONITOR THE WATERS. THE TEST RESULTS HAVE SHOWN,

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HIGH E. COLI BACTERIA IN THE SLOUGH. WHY IS THAT IMPORTANT? BACTERIA WITH A NORMAL COMPONENT OF THE LARGE INTESTINES. AN ELEVATED AMOUNT INDICATES THE SEWAGE MAY, NOT IDS BUT MAY BE PRESENT IN THE WATER. IF THE SEWAGE IS PRESENT IN THE WATER THE DISEASE CAUSING BACTERIA MAY BE PRESENT, ELEVATED E. COLI MAY HAVE OTHER CAUSES BESIDES HUMAN SEWAGE. THE E. COLI BACTERIA IN THE WATER USUALLY DON'T CAUSE SERIOUS ILLNESS BUT THEIR PRESENCE IS A MARKER THAT INDICATES DISEASE COULD BE IN THE WATER. FOR THE LAST 14 MONTHS THERE HAS BEEN TESTING AS I MENTIONED BY THE WATER RIVER KEEPER AND IT SHOWED CONSISTENTLY THAT THERE IS A HIGH E. COLI COUNT GREATER THAN THE EPA RECOMMENDED COUNTS FOR THE WATERS. AND WHERE THEY WERE TESTING ORIGINALLY WAS RIGHT HERE. THIS IS WHERE THEY WERE TESTING. BY FLORIDA LAW THE RIGHT TO INVESTIGATE THE LEAKS WAS GIVEN TO THE DEPARTMENT. THE LOSS MAY REPORT ANYTHING THAT IMPACTS PUBLIC HEALTH. SO FROM THE DATE IT APPEARS THAT THERE IS LESS THAN TEN PROPERTIES ADJACENT TO THE SLOOP WHICH HAVE SEPTIC SYSTEMS WHETHER THEY ARE FUNCTIONAL OR NOT IS UNKNOWN. THEY MAY BE FAILING, AND THEREFORE I LIKE TO MAKE THE FOLLOWING RECOMMENDATION. THAT WE HAVE THE CITY MANAGER ON THE UTILITIES DIRECTOR CONFIRM HOW MANY PROPERTIES HAVE SEPTIC SYSTEMS AND WITH IT, IT IS EASILY AVAILABLE AND THE CITY MANAGER REFERRED THE PROPERTIES TO THE HELP DEPARTMENT TO INVESTIGATE IF THE PROPERTIES HAVE FAILING SEPTIC SYSTEMS. AND FINALLY IF ANY OF THE PROPERTIES DO HAVE FAILING SYSTEMS, THE CITY MANAGER DIRECT THEM TO RECOMMEND A PLAN. I AM AN ADVOCATE OF SEPTIC SYSTEMS. I THINK SEWER SYSTEMS, THERE SHOULD BE NO SEPTIC SYSTEM.

VISUAL FIELDS SEWER. AND IF THE INDIVIDUAL DON'T WANT THIS, WE CAN'T FORCE THEM.

THIS IS A WAY FORWARD TO HAVE THE HELP DEPARTMENT GO OUT AND FIND IF THERE ARE SYMPTOMS FOR

WORKING WITH THE PROPERTY OWNERS. >> THANK YOU MR. MAYOR.

LOOKING THROUGH OLD E-MAILS, I GOT AN E-MAIL FROM JULY 2018, AND MRS. ROSS HAD A WATER TEST WAS DOING A WATER TEST, FOR THE RIVER KEEPER. AND HER REPORT SAID, THAT THE

SLOUGH WAS IN POOR CONDITION. >> I SUPPORT THE PLAN, IT IS ORDERLY PROCEDURALLY AND

IDENTIFY THE PROBLEM AND LET'S GET THIS GOING. >> I THINK IT IS A GOOD PLAN.

WE KNOW WHERE THE SUBJECTS ARE. I THINK WHAT'S INTERESTING, YOU WILL HOOK UP TO THE SEWER LINES BUT THERE IS A LOT OF OTHER SUBJECTS TOO. IT WASN'T LONG AGO, ONE OF THE DOCUMENTS SUPPORTING THE CHANGES WHICH HAS BEEN PULLED, ACTUALLY IS A REPORT FROM THE CREEK.

AND SO, WE HAVE BEEN DOING WITH THIS A LONG TIME. FOR THIS, IT IS A GOOD PLAN TO IDENTIFY. I WILL TELL YOU THE HOUSES ON A STREET, YOU CAN PRETTY MUCH

GUESS, THEY MAINTAINED THE SEPTIC SPIRIT. >> SO, I THINK WE SHOULD MOVE

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FORWARD WITH THAT. IT WILL BE COSTLY AND SOMEONE BROUGHT UP, THAT THERE ARE PEOPLE WILLING TO PAY THE COST. THERE WERE NUMBERS, I DON'T WANT TO THROW THEM UP BUT IT COULD CAUSE AN THERE WAS A VOLUNTEER GROUP THAT WOULD COME UP WITH THE MONEY.

EVEN IF WE EXTEND THE SEWER LINE THE HOUSE WILL HAVE TO BE SOMETHING.

AND THAT IS WHERE YOU SAID CHIP, THEY WORK OUT A PLAN. >>

>> THE CITY HAS A LINE APPEAR WE CANNOT MAKE THAT CALL BY OUR BOND RECORD.

SO THE CITY CAN PAY FOR. WE CAN'T WAIVE THE COST. BUT I CAN BE WORKED OUT.

THEN THERE'S THE COST, WHERE THE CITY HOOKS UP TO THE ACTUAL HOUSE.

THAT IS IN THE RANGE OF SEVEN AND $12,000. THAT WAS LAST TIME I LOOKED.

SO I THINK THIS IS A WAY FORWARD. THE WAY TO SEE IF THEY FAILED AND WE CAN APPROACH ALL OF THE SEPTIC SYSTEMS THERE. SEE IF WE CAN WORK ON THE PLAN.

HOW MANY HOUSES ARE WE TALKING ABOUT CRACKS. >> LESSON TEN.

>> THEN THERE'S, I'M PRETTY SURE, THE BUILDINGS RIGHT HERE, ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE SOUTH SIDE OF FRANKLIN STREET. I BELIEVE THAT IS IT. I'M NOT SUGGESTING IT'S NOT BUT I BELIEVE IT. CANCEL WHAT YOU'RE ASKING FOR IS A PLAN TO PUT THIS IN MOTION.

>> I WOULD LIKE TO PUT IT IN MOTION. >> MY CONCERN IS, WE ARE TALKING ABOUT TEN HOMES AND TEN PEOPLE WILL GET A LOCK ON THE DOOR FROM THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT.

AND IF YOU HAVE TO FLUSH SOMETHING DOWN THE TOILET AND IT CHECKS TO SEE IF DYE COMES UP.

SO DO THEY WANT PEOPLE COMING TO THE HOUSE OR DO APPEAR. >> THE HELP DEPARTMENT HAS A

RIGHT TO DO IT. >> THEY HAVE TO BE MADE AWARE OF THE SITUATION.

>> I'M ADVOCATING THE CITY SAY WE HAVE THREE LETTERS FROM THREE CITIZENS, INCLUDING THE

ST. MARY'S RIVER KEEPER. >> CAN ANYONE JUST DO THAT. THE HELP DEPARTMENT THAT THINK THEY HAVE A SET SYSTEM. WHY DOES THE CITY NEED TO EVOLVE AND ENFORCE THIS.

>> MR. MAYOR? >> I THINK WHAT COMMISSIONER ROSS IS TRYING TO SAY, THIS HAS BEEN AN ONGOING ISSUE FOR SEVERAL YEARS BACK WHEN YOU HAVE DISCUSSIONS WITH THE UTILITY DEPARTMENT WE HAVEN'T SEEN ANY APPROVAL SYSTEMS. SO WHAT I THINK COMMISSIONER ROSS IS TRYING TO SAY IS LET'S GET THE ULTIMATE AUTHORITY WHICH IS TO VALIDATE OR VERIFY THE CLAIMS OF THE SEPTIC SYSTEMS. THEN WAIT THAT'S RIGHT WE CAN DECIDE THE NEXT COURSE OF ACTION. BECAUSE IF NONE OF THEM ARE FAILING THERE ARE OTHER CAUSES OF E. COLI BACTERIA. SO THIS WILL CONFIRM OR DENY THERE ARE FAILING SEPTIC SYSTEMS. AND AS THE COMMISSIONER POINTED OUT IT IS THE DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH THAT HAS THE RESPONSIBILITY. AND THERE HAS BEEN OUTREACH EFFORTS, AND I THINK THEY HAVE NOT BEEN RESPONSIVE TO THIS EFFORT.

IT'S NOT A HIGH PRIORITY. BUT, THIS IS A STEP TO GET THE ULTIMATE AUTHORITY BECAUSE I'M NOT SURE IF THE CITY HAS THE AUTHORITY TO GO ON AND DO THIS. BUT THE DEPARTMENT DEPARTMENT OF

HEALTH HAS THAT AUTHORITY. >> HERE IS WHERE I WOULD LIKE TO GO FORWARD.

THIS HAS BEEN GOING ON FOR TWO YEARS. THE CITY IS NOT SAYING IT'S NOT WORKING. THEY ARE SAYING WE HAVE SEPTIC SYSTEMS WHERE WE HAVE HAD LETTERS, THAT HAVE REPORTED THIS TO US, WOULD YOU LOOK INTO THIS. THAT'S ALL.

>> IT JUST SEEMS LIKE COMMON SENSE. I DON'T WANT TO GET YELLED AT

FOR DOING THE WRONG THING. >> YOU CAN'T JUST SAY, I DON'T KNOW WHY THAT REQUIRED A

[01:20:01]

CONSENSUS. I WAS TRYING TO BE APPROPRIATE, THAT'S ALL.

I DIDN'T WANT TO STEP ON ANYONE'S TOES BECAUSE I'VE DONE THAT IN THE PAST.

>> I THINK IT'S A LITTLE MORE WEIGHT. IT INDICATES THEY RECEIVED LETTERS AND CONCERNS AND THEY HAVE ASKED THAT I START DOING THIS.

>> BUT WE CAN'T TAKE FORMAL ACTION. >> CORRECT.

>> THANK YOU SO MUCH. >> JUST BECAUSE YOU SEE THERE'S E. COLI IN THE WATER, IT'S A MAJOR POPULATION AND ALL KINDS OF STUFF IN THE AREA SO IT COULD ATTRIBUTE TO THIS.

>> >> WE DON'T TAKE PUBLIC COMMENT BUT I WILL PUT YOU ON FOR THE

[6. PUBLIC COMMENT REGARDING ITEMS NOT ON THE AGENDA OR ITEMS ON THE CONSENT AGENDA]

NEXT ITEM IF YOU ARE DONE SIR. ITEM SIX, PUBLIC COMMENT REGARDING ITEMS NOT ON THE

AGENDA OR ITEMS ON THE CONSENT AGENDA. >> GOOD EVENING.

AND FIRST THANKS TO YOU AND TO ALL OF THE CANDIDATES WHO OFFERED THEMSELVES TO PUBLIC SERVICE. IT TAKES A LOT OF YOUR TIME AND YOU DON'T GET PAID ENOUGH FOR

WHAT YOU DO. AS TO THIS ISSUE. >> I'M SORRY SARDI JOURNEY.

>> MY NAME IS CLYDE DAVIS. AND I AM A LAWYER AND I AM A FORMER DIRECTOR OF THE SAINT RIVERS KEEPERS PROGRAM. A LITTLE HISTORY, WE ARE AN ORGANIZATION THAT IS DEVOTED TO WATER QUALITY IN THIS AREA. ONE OF OUR PROGRAMS IS QUALITY TESTING.

ALL UP AND DOWN THE WATER SHIP FROM THE ST. MARY'S RIVER ALL THE WAY UP TO AND THE COTS MOUND WHERE WE HAVE THE ORIGINATION OF THE RIVER. THE ON THE GEORGIA SIDE OF THE RIVER WE HAVE HAD, PROGRAMS DEVOTED TO REPAIR OF THE SEPTIC SYSTEM.

THESE ARE ACTUALLY IMPAIRED WATERWAYS. HERE ON ESCAMBIA SLOUGH WE HAVE HAD ELEVATED LEVELS OF E. COLI FOR ABOUT THE LAST 18 MONTHS. IN THE SUMMERTIME, E. COLI CAN BE A SOURCE OF ANY NUMBER OF DIFFERENT THINGS. IT COULD BE ANYTHING FROM BEAUTIFICATION TO A CARCASS. BUT IN COLD WEATHER, WHEN YOU GET THOSE ELEVATED READINGS, SOMETHING IS GOING ON THAT IS NOT NORMAL. SO THEY DID A SECOND TESTING AND WE GOT THE MARKERS THAT ARE INDICATED OF A FAILING SYSTEM. WE HAD MEDICATIONS THAT ARE ADMINISTERED TO HUMANS THAT MAY BE OVER THE COUNTY BUT THEY ARE THERE.

THIS IS WHAT LED THE EPA TO START THEIR OWN TESTING PROGRAM. BUT, YOU KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON.

YOU KNOW THE PROBLEM IS THERE. THERE IS A HUMAN SIDE BECAUSE WHAT IT IS TELLING US, SOMEWHERE IN OUR COMMUNITY, THERE IS SOMEONE LIVING WITH THE PERMIT YOU GET WHEN YOU HAVE A FAILING SEPTIC SYSTEM. THIS IS OUR COMMUNITY. WE LIVE HERE.

THERE IS SOMEONE WHO NEEDS HELP TO DEAL WITH THIS PROBLEM. THERE IS A HUMAN SIDE, NOT JUST POLLUTION, THERE IS A HUMAN SIDE THAT NEEDS TO BE ADDRESSED. AND THE CITY CANNOT FIX THE PROBLEM BY ITSELF. A PARTNER SIT -- A PARTNERSHIP BY THE CITY OR HABITAT FOR

HUMANITY WILL TRY TO SOLVE THE PROBLEM. >> I'M SORRY.

HE KEPT BEEPING. >> GOOD EVENING. A LITTLE BIT ABOUT MY

[01:25:12]

BACKGROUND. I WENT TO COLLEGE AT TROY STATE UNIVERSITY.

ONE MAJOR I HAD WAS RECREATION. FROM COLLEGE I LEFT AND RAN A CAMP AND CONFERENCE CENTER.

I AM A FORMER PROGRAM DIRECTOR NOW I SIT ON THE BOARD OF DIRECTORS.

WE RAN FIVE WEEKS OF CAMP THIS SUMMER. WE WERE AND CONSULTATION AND A LOT OF THE INFORMATION COMES FROM THE PRESBYTERIAN CHURCH. HE IS THE DIRECTOR AND A LEADING INFECTIOUS DISEASE DOCTOR. WE TALK ABOUT THE CITIES HYPOCRISY.

YOU HAVE FACILITIES LIKE THE COURTS THE GYM, THE POOL, WHICH ARE USED BY THE HIGHEST RISK GROUP. ACCORDING TO THE CDC. YET YOU CLOSE THE YOUTH SPORTS PROGRAMS WHICH IS THE LOWEST RISK GROUP TO THE VIRUS. AND ESTABLISHMENTS LIKE THE BARS I MENTIONED, THEY ARE BEING TURNED TO A BLIND EYE. THE AMERICAN ASSOCIATION HAVE CLOSE SCHOOLS. YOU SAID YOU WILL MAKE YOUR DECISION BASED ON THE THINGS HAPPENING IN THE SCHOOL SYSTEM WHICH I WOULD STRONGLY BY CLOSING I DO AGREE WITH COMMISSIONER ROSS, AT LEAST AT A STARTING POINT TO OPEN THE FIELDS FOR PRACTICE.

BUT THESE ORGANIZATIONS AND I'M NOT SPEAKING ON ANY BEHALF OF ANY ORGANIZATION.

I REQUEST YOU OPEN ALL FIELDS TO ALLOW THE ORGANIZATION TO PROVIDE SERVICES.

INCLUDING THE YOUNG CITIZENS. ALL OF THEM HAVE NATIONAL RECOGNITION AND GUIDELINES.

AND THE FLORIDA, BABE RUTH LEAGUE HAD GUIDELINES. THE YOUTH SOCCER HAS GUIDELINES THAT HAVE GIVEN THEM GUIDELINES AND I WOULD REQUEST YOU OPEN THESE FIELDS IMMEDIATELY AND ALLOW THE TAXPAYERS TO USE THEM. YOU CAN LIVE YOUR LIFE, AND CONTROL THE VIRUS OR YOU CAN HAVE THE VIRUS CONTROL YOUR LIFE. I WILL WELCOME ANY QUESTIONS

THAT YOU HAVE. >> MR. TOM. >> , THAT'S RIGHT I'M WITH THE BABE RUTH ASSOCIATION. I LIVE AT 1518. I COME TO YOU TO TELL YOU THAT WITH EVERYTHING THAT'S GOING ON ACADEMICALLY IN THE COLLEGES AND IN THE HIGH SCHOOLS, EACH STATE HAS BEEN TAKING ON THEIR ROLE ON HOW THEY WANT TO PURSUE THE AVENUE OF SUCCESS THAT WE CAN OPEN SAFELY. I AM ONE, THE BIG TEN CONFERENCE.

I HAVE BEEN ON ZOOM CALLS FOR THE LAST FOUR MONTHS. THE COMMISSIONER MADE A STATEMENT IN HIS ABILITY TO FIND OUT WHAT IS THE BEST ROUTE TO OPEN THE PARKS SAFELY.

I WANT THE PARKS OPEN TOO. WE HAVE BEEN AWAY SINCE MARCH. WE NEED TO GET THE KIDS OUT.

BUT WE HAVE TO DO IT WITH THE IDEA THAT WE ARE DOING IT OPENLY AND SUCCESSFULLY.

WE DON'T WANT TO GO BACK AND SHUT IT DOWN. YESTERDAY WAS A PRIME EXAMPLE WHEN NORTH CAROLINA HAD TO SHUT DOWN FOR THE SCHOOL BEING OPEN FOR FIVE DAYS.

I'M SORRY. THAT IS 190 CASES THAT WERE FOUND IN LESS THAN FIVE DAYS.

NO MOTHER -- NO ONE HAS DONE THE TRACKING WE DON'T KNOW THE INS AND OUTS OF THE AFTER EFFECTS OF

[01:30:03]

THIS DISEASE. I HAVE SEEN ATHLETES COME IN, THEY HAVE TESTED POSITIVE, THEY WAIT 14 DAYS AND THEY ARE BACK ON THE FIELD. GUESS WHAT, WE DON'T KNOW HOW IT AFFECTS THEIR HEART, LUNGS, HAIR OR THE AFTER EFFECTS SIX WEEKS FROM NOW, SIX MONTHS FROM NOW, ONE YEAR FROM NOW. THOSE THINGS ARE STILL IN THE FUTURE.

BUT I DO BEG YOU, IF WE DO HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO OPEN UP, I HAVE SOME IDEAS THAT I WOULD LIKE TO PRESENT TO YOU. THE FIRST ONE IS TO OPEN UP THE PARKS JUST TO THE KIDS AND THE COACHES. THAT IS IT. TWO WEEKS, MAKE SURE THAT IF WE BREAK THE RULES, PAIRED WITH WILL INVITE PARENTS TO SEND IN THE STANDS WITH FACE COVERINGS TO WATCH THEIR KIDS PRACTICE. I MENTIONED NOTHING ABOUT GAME SPIRIT THAT GIVES US FOUR WEEKS.

DURING THAT TIMEFRAME, IF THE RULES ARE BROKEN, WE SHUT DOWN COMPLETELY.

AND I THINK THE LAST THING I WOULD LIKE TO BRING UP BUSINESS. >> GO AHEAD.

THE LAST THING I WOULD LIKE TO BRING UP TO YOU IS THIS, WE, YOU BROUGHT UP THE IDEA OF THE NUMBER OF TESTS THAT WERE TAKING PLACE. IT'S NOT SUFFICIENT.

THE COLLEGES HAVE FOUND THAT OUT. BICYCLES HAVE FOUND THAT OUT.

WE NEED MORE TESTING. THAT COMES AT A PRICE. THEY ARE TESTED EVERY SINGLE DAY. THAT IS THE PROTOCOL OF SAFETY THAT THEY ARE FOLLOWING.

AND YET, PROFESSIONAL ATHLETES HAVE STILL BEEN INFECTED. >> THANK YOU SIR.

>> ANYONE ELSE? >> ANYONE THAT I'VE MISSED? >> SO THE CITY AND THE FEES ARE NOT SUBSIDIZED. THOSE ARE MY THOUGHTS.

>> I DID SHARE, THE CONCERNS AND I HAVE FOUR CONCERNS. I EXPECT SHE CAN ADDRESS THE

CONCERNS. >> I CONCUR WITH THE RECOMMENDATION THAT THE PEOPLE SET THE PRICE AND RUN THE BUSINESS. THAT IS WHAT WE EXPECT THEM TO DO. AND I THINK THAT WOULD BE TO OUR ADVANTAGE.

>> AND JUST A QUICK COMMENT. WE HAD A DISCUSSION I ACTUALLY LOOKED AT THE CURRENT AGREEMENT.

AND IT ACTUALLY SAYS IN THE AGREEMENT, THAT THE CITY WILL SET THE RATES.

SO GOING FORWARD, NOT JUST THE FEE SCHEDULE BUT WE WILL HAVE TO AMEND, IF THAT IS A PATH WE WANT

TO TAKE WE WILL LIMIT THE OPERATIONS. >> I HAVEN'T HAD A CHANCE TO

LOOK INTO THAT ONE. >> I DO HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND PERIOD.

>> CALLED THE ROLL. >> ITEM NINE-POINT TO PICKLED AMENDMENT PERMITS.

[9.2 CODE AMENDMENT - PERMITS]

>> ORDINANCE 2020 -- 29 AMENDING ORDINANCE CHAPTER 22 BUILDINGS AND BUILDING REGULATIONS BY AMENDING SECTION 22-29 PERMITS, PROVIDING FORCE OF ABILITY AND PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE.

THIS IS THE FIRST READING AND WE WILL HAVE A SECOND READING. DOES ANYONE WANT TO SPEAK.

THIS LOOKS LIKE A LOT OF STUFF. IT IS. BUT REALLY, I THINK THE CITY BUILDING OFFICIAL HAS PUT THIS IN THE COLD. WE KNOW IT IS A STATE LAW PREEMPTED. BUT THEY DO ALLOW FOR LOCAL GOVERNMENTS TO PASS SOMETHING

[01:35:06]

SPIRIT THIS IS HER -- IS WRITING AND EASIER TO SPEAK FOR HIMSELF. HIS BUILDING CODE ESSENTIALLY.

HE KNOWS HOW TO TRAIN HIS PEOPLE. FRANKLY IT HAS BEEN OUT OF DATE AND PATCHED WORK TOGETHER. NOW WE HAVE SOMETHING COMPREHENSIVE THAT THE DEPARTMENT CAN READ MORE EASILY. THE OTHER IMPORTANT PART OF THE CHANGES IS THAT AND KUDOS TO THEM, THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT AND PLANNING CONSERVATION DEPARTMENT THEY WORKED TOGETHER TO PROVIDE WE WOULD HAVE PERMITS FOR SITE CLEARING AND PERMITS FOR EXTERIOR TELEVISIONS AND MONITORS. SO, THERE MAY BE SOME IMPORTANT CHANGES BUT THOSE ARE THE TWO HIGHLIGHTED IN THE PACKET AND THAT BRINGS ATTENTION TO THOSE SPECIFICALLY.

>> I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE INSTEAD OF SAYING BUILDING OFFICIAL WE SAY WHAT IT

MEANS. >> DOES THAT SUIT YOU? >> THAT JUST MEANS YOU OR YOUR

STAFF WOULD BE ABLE TO, DID YOU WANT TO SAY SOMETHING? >> A MOTION TO APPROVE.

>> I WILL SECOND PERIOD. >> THE BUILDING DIRECTOR FOR THE CITY.

I JUST WANTED TO SAY A FEW MORE THINGS. THIS IS AN ATTEMPT AND THE CURRENT LANGUAGE OF THE BUILDING CODE WHICH BECOMES EFFECTIVE. THIS WAS FROM 2007.

IT HASN'T CHANGED A LOT BUT SOME OF IT CHANGED A LITTLE BIT. AND THERE WERE A COUPLE OF SMALL CHANGES THAT WERE MENTIONED. ADDING TELEVISION COMMERCIAL BUILDINGS.

THERE WERE SOME SMALL ONES THAT WE SEE IN THE DEPARTMENT OFTEN LIKE A PERMIT FOR DRIVEWAYS AND THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE AS IT BUT SOME DIDN'T. SO WE CLEANED IT UP A LITTLE BIT SO PEOPLE COULD UNDERSTAND IT. PERMITS ARE REQUIRED BUT NOT BUILDING REQUIREMENTS.

SO IT DOES THOSE THINGS. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THAT'S IT.

>> AND MADAME CLARK WILL YOU PLEASE CALL THE VOTE. CALLING THE VOTE.

[9.3 Legislative - COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AMENDMENT]

>> A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AMENDMENT. >> ORDINANCE 2020 -- 30, STATING ITS INTENT TO AMEND ORDINANCE 203 -- 2003-36 IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE RECOMMENDATIONS CONTAINED IN THE ADOPTED EVALUATION AND APPRAISAL REPORT BY RESOLUTION 2020 -- 37, AND APPROVING THE TRANSMITTAL OF SUCH PROPOSED AMENDMENTS TO THE STATE LAND PLANNING AGENCY FOR REVIEW IN ACCORDANCE WITH SECTION 163.3184, FLORIDA STATUTES PROVIDING FOR SEVERE

ABILITY AND PROVIDE AN EFFECTIVE DATE. >> THE STATE REQUIREMENTS AT A MINIMUM. I'VE MISSPOKE. BUT ANYWAY, THEY ARE REQUIRED, THE LANGUAGES HERE DOESN'T MEAN YOU CAN'T MAKE TWEAKS BUT IT IS REQUIRED AND WHAT THE STATE

EXPECTS US TO DO, TO INCORPORATE >> I RECOMMEND APPROVAL. I SECOND PERIOD.

>> MR. -- MRS. GIBSON HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. >> I JUST WANT TO MAKE THE POINT, CHANGING FROM SHALL TO MY SPIRIT WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ACTUALLY COMPLY AND DO THESE THINGS. THEY ARE NOT THAT COMPLEX BUT WE HAVE HAD PROBLEMS THESE WILL GO TO THE REGIONAL AND THEN THE STATE. THIS IS WHAT WE AGREED TO DO.

[01:40:03]

AND THEN MOVE FORWARD. AND THIS IS WITH THE PLANNING ADVISORY BOARD.

I UNDERSTAND BETTER EVERY CYCLE WHAT THIS MEANS. IT'S TRUE, IT WOULD REQUIRE THIS. BUT THE IDEA IS THAT IF WE HAVE THESE IN PLACE.

THEN WE WOULD APPLY FOR GRANT FUNDS AND NOT HAVING IT, SO, WE DON'T HAVE FOR EXAMPLE, THIS WOULD LOOK LIKE PIE IN THE SKY GOALS. SO IT IS A GOAL THAT WE TRIED TO ACHIEVE. TOURISM IS VERY IMPORTANT TO THE ECONOMY THERE ARE CERTAIN THINGS AND STUDIES TO SAY HOW MANY SHORT-TERM RENTALS AND SOME THEY ARE TAKING CARE OF.

SO WE ARE SUPPOSED TO BE FOCUSING ON UNDERSTANDING THAT TOURISM IS IMPORTANT THAT WE

HAVE TO PLAN FOR IT IN THE FUTURE. >> I THINK THESE ARE ALL GOOD GOALS. I AGREE WITH THE PUBLIC. AND IN THE PAST, AS VICE MAYOR KREGER POINTED OUT WE HAVE HAD GOALS THAT THE CITY FAILED TO IMPLEMENT.

I WOULD WISH THAT, THE PLANNING STAFF, COME UP WITH A STRATEGY ON HOW WE WILL IMPLEMENT THE POLICIES AND GOALS SO IT IS A SEVEN-YEAR CYCLE. WITH THE PLAN, I WILL MOVE TO

APPROVE. >> VICE MAYOR KREGER WORDED THE NOTICE THE WORDING HAS CHANGED.

I'M READING, DOCUMENTS AND THERE ARE SHELVES SPIRIT THEY NEED TO CHANGE IT.

THIS CANNOT CHANGE. I DO KNOW THAT FROM SOME EXPERIENCE BUT TO THE EXTENT THEY SHOULD BE A MUST. SOMETIMES YOU HAVE TO DO THIS. I DIDN'T COMMUNICATE THAT TO THE

COUNCIL. >> I'M JUST LOOKING AT THE POLICIES.

SO YOU KNOW HOW THIS PRESENTS IT HAS TO GO TO THE STATE IT WILL BE TRANSMITTED BEFORE THE READING. SO YOU REALLY CANNOT MAKE CHANGES AFTER THIS.

AND WE HAVE TO DO TO READING SPIRIT THIS IS YOUR CHANCE. WHAT I'M SAYING IS IT MAKES IT EASIER. I UNDERSTAND. THESE ARE NOT ALL THAT COMPLEX.

THE CITY DOCUMENT, THESE ARE NOT HARD THINGS TO DO. THEN THEY TALK ABOUT WHAT THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT IS DOING. THEY ARE NOT ALL DIFFICULT. SO IT'S SOMETHING WE JUST HAVE TO DO, AND THESE ARE ACTUALLY THE MINIMUM. THIS IS THE MINIMUM STUFF JUST

TO GET US TO THE REAL AREA. >> BASED UPON STATE LAW CHANGES. ANYONE ELSE.

>> PLEASE CALL THE ROLL. >> >> AND SECTION TEN EVERYTHING

AND THERE HAS BEEN REMOVED. >> THANK YOU. >> CAN YOU JUST EXPLAIN WHY?

>> I HAVE NO IDEA. >> APPARENTLY -- >> I WANT THE PUBLIC TO

[01:45:03]

UNDERSTAND. >> APPARENTLY IT WAS CONVEYED TO THE CITY CLERK THAT DESPITE THE CITY'S EFFORT THE NEWS LEADERS FAILED TO APPROACH -- USE THE ADVERTISEMENTS.

SO -- ARE A GOOD CATCH THIS IS THE ARTS AND CULTURAL. MOVE TO APPROVE.

[11.1 ARTS AND CULTURE NASSAU]

>> I HAVE A SECOND PERIOD. >> EVERY MOTION AND A SECOND PERIOD AND MADAME CLARK PLEASE

CALL THE ROLL. >> CALLING THE ROLL. AND THE CITY MANAGER REPORTS.

[12. CITY MANAGER REPORTS]

>> THANK YOU. I AM ON SCHEDULE TO BE ON VACATION FOR THE REST OF THE WEEK. AS MY POLICY I WILL TERMINATE MY E-MAIL UNTIL MY RETURN SINCE I'M GONE LONGER THAN FOUR DAYS. I WILL MAKE A PRESENTATION BEFORE THE NASDAQ COUNTY IN SUPPORT OF OUR -- NASSAU COUNTY AND REQUEST FOR MONEY. THAT IS MONDAY NIGHT.

I WOULD LIKE TO ENCOURAGE ALL FIVE OF YOU TO BE THERE SO WE CAN HAVE A STRONG SHOW OF FORCE.

I WILL PRESENT SOME DATA INDICATING WHY WE MADE THE REQUEST AND WHAT THE MONIES WILL BE USED FOR. A FEW WEEKS AFTER THAT LABOR DAY SEPTEMBER 7, THE OFFICE WILL BE CLOSED. THE NEXT STEP OF THE BUDGET WILL BE THE EVENING OF SEPTEMBER 8.

SO YOU WILL BE SCHEDULED FOR FOUR MEETINGS IN SEPTEMBER. FOR REGULAR AND TO BUDGET PUBLIC HEARINGS. AND PENDING ANY QUESTIONS THAT IS ALL I HAVE FOR YOU THIS

EVENING. >> CITY ATTORNEY. >> I DON'T HAVE ANY REPORTS.

[14. CITY CLERK REPORTS]

>> CITY CLERK. >> YES MAYOR, I DO HAVE, THIS IS A MATTER OF HOUSE CAMPING.

THE CITY REACHED OUT -- TO YOUR ATTENTION BECAUSE YOU APPROVE THE PROCEDURES THAT THE APPLICATIONS BE SUBMITTED TO THE CITY CLERK'S OFFICE BY SEPTEMBE. BUT DUE TO COVID-19, THE SOCIAL SECURITY ADMINISTRATION IS UNDERSTAFFED AND THEY ARE HAVING A HARD TIME GETTING APPLICANTS THEIR INCOME INFORMATION THAT IS REQUIRED AS PART OF THE APPLICATION PROCESS. SO THEY REQUESTED THAT THE DEADLINE BE EXTENDED FROM SEPTEMBER 1-SEPTEMBER 30. AND I MADE A DECISION TO DO THAT BUT I DIDN'T WANT TO BRING IT TO YOUR ATTENTION BECAUSE IT IS SOMETHING YOU PREVIOUSLY

APPROVED. >> ADDITIONALLY, I HAVE THE PRIMARY ELECTION RESULTS IF YOU

WANT ME TOO PUT IT ON THE SCREEN AT THIS TIME. >> THIS IS BY MAIL AND PARTIALLY RECORDED. THERE WON'T BE DRAMATIC CHANGES FROM WHAT YOU ARE SEEING HERE.

THESE ARE VERY CLOSE. >> DOES ANYONE KNOW IF SOME OF THESE ITEMS WILL HAVE RUNOFFS

CRACKS. >> THE ONLY ONE WOULD BE THE JUDGE.

>> OKAY. >> AND THAT IS IF NO ONE GETS ABOVE 50%.

>> CORRECT. >> BUT THE OTHER SEATS THERE'S NO RUNOFF, JUST THE WINNER TAKES

ALL. >> YES. >> INTERESTING.

>> I THOUGHT SO TOO. >> IT'S JUST ON A LOOP. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

ANYTHING ELSE? >> THAT IS A. >> SO I ATTENDED THE DEDICATION

[15. MAYOR/COMMISSIONER COMMENTS 16. ADJOURNMENT]

CEREMONY. AND I LEARNED A LOT OF HISTORY. I JUST WANTED TO, I WANTED TO GIVE A SHOUT OUT TO THE RECREATION DEPARTMENT. I MEAN, THAT FLOOR, THAT GYM FLOOR IS JUST UNBELIEVABLY BEAUTIFUL. THEY DO AN INCREDIBLE JOB.

I JUST WANTED TO SHOUT OUT. THERE WAS THE HISTORY OF IT. I APPRECIATE THE CITY DOING

[01:50:06]

THAT. >> I ALSO ATTENDED THE CEREMONY. TO THINK THE PEOPLE DEDICATED THAT MUCH OF THEIR LIVES. I ALSO WANT TO SAY ONCE AGAIN THANK YOU TO FIRE AND THE POLICE DEPARTMENTS, FOR THE HOUSE FIRE AND THE OTHER ONE THAT I JOKED WITH THE FIRE CHIEF THE OTHER DAY SAYING, HE ALWAYS SAID YOU WANTED A FIRE BOAT NOT A BOAT ON A FIRE.

ONCE JUST CAUGHT FIRE. WE HAD TO RESPOND TO THAT. SO PEOPLE DON'T UNDERSTAND, WHEN FIREFIGHTERS GO INTO THIS, WHEN THEY GO INTO THE DANGER THEY ENCOUNTER BY THE UNSEALED BULLS, IT CAN CAUSE THEM TO DEVELOP CANCER. SO FOR THE PEOPLE WHO DON'T THINK WE NEED FIRE STATIONS, JUST FOR DECONTAMINATION, WE DO REALLY NEEDED.

>> I SPOKE TO THE CHIEF ABOUT THE FIRES AND WHEN I HEARD ABOUT THE SECOND ONE I THOUGHT A BOLD

FIRE AT A WALMART PARKING LOT, YOU WON'T SEE THAT. >> COMMISSIONER LEDNOVICH.

>> AFTER BEING IN CHICAGO AND BEING ON THE ISLAND, I WILL ECHO DOROTHY IN THE WIZARD OF OZ AND

SAY THERE IS NO PLACE LIKE HOME. >> THANK YOU. >> VICE MAYOR -- MAYOR KREGER.

I ALSO WENT TO THE CEREMONY AND THE COACH OF THE ONLY FOOTBALL TEAM EVER.

THE PLAYERS WERE THERE AND THERE WAS A BRIEF ADDRESS BY THE MAYOR WHICH WAS INTERESTING WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE HISTORY OF MOVING FROM SEGREGATION TO INTEGRATION. AND THE FAMILIES SHOWED UP HERE AND BIKE HE SAID THE FLOORS WERE GREAT. I WANT TO GIVE CONDOLENCES TO MY FRIEND WHO LOST HIS FATHER I WANT TO SEND MY CONDOLENCES AND WE TALK ABOUT THE FABRIC, THIS THREAD WENT A LONG WAY. AND AGAIN. I JUST WANT TO TELL EVERYONE TO HANG IN THERE AND BE SAFE. IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR CHARGE JUST FOR THE RECORD WE ARE BACK IN SESSION. WE CAME BACK BEFORE THE MIKE'S WORK LIFE BUT NO DECISIONS WERE

[7. CONSENT AGENDA]

MADE. SO SECTION SIX. >> I'M SORRY SECTION SEVEN.

DOES ANYONE WANT ANYTHING FOR DISCUSSION. >> I SECOND PERIOD WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND PERIOD PLEASE CALL THE BOAT. VICE MAYOR MAYOR KREGER.

[8.1 ATLANTIC AVENUE RECREATION CENTER AUDITORIUM NAMING - MS. JOAN BEAN AUDITORIUM -]

, COMMISSIONER ROSS, MILLER, ONTO SECTION EIGHT. THIS IS ITEM A .1.

IT IS THE AVENUE RECREATION CENTER AUDITORIUM NAMING FOR MS. JOAN BEAN.

>> I MOVED TO APPROVE. >> I SECOND PERIOD. >> I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND

PERIOD CAN YOU PLEASE CALL THE VOTE. >> CALLING THE ROLL.

>> THE NEXT STEP, WITH THE WORLD WE LIVE AND I WANT TO HAVE A CEREMONY FOR THIS BUT I WANT TO DO IT SAFELY. AND I KNOW YOU HAVE ANOTHER -- TERMS OF YOUR FAMILY, SO, I KNOW A LOT OF THEM ARE OUT-OF-STATE SO I WILL COORDINATE WITH YOU SO WE CAN ARRANGE HOW TO DO THAT.

WE WILL DO SOMETHING APPROPRIATE AND TASTEFUL. >> THANK YOU SO MUCH EVERYONE.

[8.2 PECK CENTER RECEPTION ROOM NAMING - ELMO MYERS/NASSAU COUNTY COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION RECEPTION ROOM]

>> ON A POINT TO. PECK CENTER RECEPTION ROOM NAMING ELMO MYERS/NASSAU.

>> RECOMMEND APPROVAL. >> I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND PERIOD MATTER WHAT YOU CALL THE

VOTE. >> WAS ANYONE FAMILIAR WITH THIS SITUATION?

[01:55:04]

>> YES CAROLINE HAS BEEN WORKING WITH PEOPLE. THIS IS BACK FROM THE '90S.

THIS IS HOUSEKEEPING. >> ITEM A .3. OF WE DID OF -- AWARD OF BID

[8.3 AWARD OF BID #2020-08 - AMELIA ISLAND MAINTENANCE]

2020-08. MILLION ISLAND MAINTENANCE. >> THANK YOU MR. MAYOR.

THE CITY DID PUBLISH AN INVITATION TO BID 20 -- ZERO EIGHT.

WE RECEIVED THREE BIDS. AND THEY WERE SOMEWHAT ODD IN THAT.

>> AND THE THIRD BID WAS LESS THAN $35,000. SO KATHY IS HERE THIS EVENING, DO YOU HAVE A REPRESENTATIVE FROM THE CONTRACTOR, HE IS HERE AS WELL.

I THINK MS. RUSSELL, I WE DID HAVE BACKGROUND DOCUMENTATION. AND STAFF RECOMMENDS AWARDING

THE BID IN THE AMOUNT OF $34,000.9997. >> RECOMMEND APPROVAL.

>> I HAVE A SECOND PERIOD I DREAD THE DUE DILIGENCE AND I AGREE.

WITH THAT PLEASE CALL THE VOTE. >> >> ALRIGHT, ITEM A POINT A POINT

[8.4 AWARD OF RFP #2020-04 - MCCALL TREE HEALTH AND CONSULTING, LLC, CASH'S TREE SERVICE LLC, FIRST COAST URBAN FORESTRY LLC, DAVEY RESOURCE GROUP, INC., AND GAGE TREE CARE]

FOR. AWARD OF RFP2020-04. MCCALL HEALTH TREE CONSULTING.

[8.5 INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT - NASSAU COUNTY BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS]

>> SO WE ARE ON TO ITEM A .5. INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT WITH NASSAU COUNTY BOARD OF COUNTY

COMMISSIONERS. >> OKAY, THIS IS THE RELATIVELY SMALL PROJECT IN THE SCHEME OF THINGS BUT A LONG TIME COMING. I JUST WANT TO GIVE SOME HISTORY IF YOU HAVE BEEN A COMMISSIONER OR PAYING ATTENTION. WE HAVE A PRESIDENT OF THE SIDE, WHICH IS THE EAST SIDE, AND THOSE HOMES ARE MOSTLY ON SEPTIC. AND THEY HAVE, THEY ARE IN THE UNINCORPORATED COUNTY. HOWEVER THERE IS STORM WATER, THAT FLOWS FROM THE SHOPPING CENTER, THE YMCA AND THE PROPERTIES NEAR THERE. AND THOSE WATERS ARE IN THE CITY LIMITS AND THE STORM WATER RUNS DOWN AND IT IS HEADED TOWARDS THE CREEK.

AND THESE HAVE BEEN INSTALLED IN THE AREAS BY THE COUNTY. MRS. JANET MILLER, ON PHEASANT LANE, HER PROPERTY BACKS UP TO PHEASANT LANE AND I CAN READ THIS BUT I'M NOT GOING TO TRY TO. THIS IS THE PROJECT. THE DRAINAGE PROJECT.

WHAT WE'RE DOING IS FIXING A SINKHOLE, NOT REALLY A SINKHOLE BUT A HOLE CREATED IN THE BACKYARD OF MRS. MILLER, AND THAT NEIGHBOR AND IT IS A DITCH IN THE BACK.

IT HAS COLLAPSED BECAUSE THE PIPE HAS DEGRADED. THE REASON THE CITY IS INVOLVED NOT JUST BECAUSE OF THE STORM WATER, BECAUSE MOST OF THE TIME IF IT GOES INTO THE COUNTY SYSTEM WE SAY -- OR, BUT OVER THE YEARS, CITY WORKERS HAVE BEEN ON THIS SIDE WORKING IN THIS DITCH. WORKING ON THIS PROBLEM. AND THAT MEANS ONCE WE GET THE PEOPLE IN THERE WE TAKE RESPONSIBILITY. THE COUNTY DOES NOT WANT TO TAKE RESPONSIBILITY. WE WILL SPLIT IT IN HALF. THEY HAVE DONE A GREAT JOB.

HE WENT WITH NATE TO THE NEIGHBORS AND GOT EASEMENT AGREEMENTS AND, THE INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT WHICH THE COUNTY REQUESTED, JUST SAYING WE ARE ALL PAYING 50%.

THERE IS SOME RESPONSIBILITY AND THEY ARE AWARE OF THAT. THERE ARE SOME COUNTY SOURCES AND THE CITY WILL TAKE CARE OF THAT. IT BENEFITS THE WHOLE COMMUNITY TO MAKE SURE THE WATER GOES TO THE RIGHT PLACE. ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS.

[02:00:07]

I DID WANT TO MENTION FOR THE RECORD THAT THE COUNTY PROPOSED TWO MINOR CHANGES.

THE AGREEMENT, AND SECTION THREE THEY WANTED TO ADD A SENTENCE. THEY WILL NOTIFY THAT THEY WILL PAY 50% OF THE COST RIGHT NOW AT A CERTAIN PRICE. THE CITY WILL NOTIFY THE COUNTY OF ANY ADDITIONAL COSTS ASSOCIATED WITH THE REPAIRS AND ALLOW THE COUNTY 30 DAYS TO

REVIEW ANY ADDITIONAL COSTS BEFORE THEY PAY THEM. >> AND IT PUTS FORTH A MAINTENANCE RESPONSIBILITY FOR EACH ONE. THOSE ARE THE CHANGES AND WE RECOMMEND APPROVAL. WE WORK TOGETHER WITH COUNTY TO SOLVE THE PROBLEM.

>> RECOMMEND APPROVAL. >> I SECOND PERIOD. >> A MOTION AND A SECOND PERIOD

PLEASE CALL THE BOAT. -- VOTE. >> ITEM A .6.

[8.6 PURCHASE APPROVAL - FASTENAL / BUDGET AMENDMENT - MARINA]

PURCHASE APPROVAL FOR THE FACTIONAL/BUDGET AMENDMENT MARINA.

>> THANK YOU MR. MAYOR, THIS IS BASED ON SOME OF THE INSPECTIONS THAT HAVE BEEN DONE AT THE MARINA RECENTLY. IT TURNED OUT A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF THE HARDWARE UNDER THE BOARDWALK AS DETERIORATED TO THE POINT WHERE IT NEEDS TO BE REPLACED.

THE CITY WILL PURCHASE THE HARDWARE AND THEN THE CONTRACTOR THAT ARE REQUIRING IT WILL GIVE US THE APPROVAL TO ACTUALLY THEN INSTALL THE HARDWARE. SO THIS IS OFF OF THE PURCHASE AGREEMENT AND IT'S NOT TO EXCEED $22,000. IT IS FOR MARINA REPAIRS SPIRIT

FROM CONTRACTUAL TO BUILDING. >> THANK YOU SIR. >> COMMISSIONER ROSS GREG SANCHO HAVE BEEN THERE. WE NEED TO DO THIS. MOVED TO APPROVE.

>> MAKE A MOTION AND A SECOND PERIOD. >> CALLING THE ROLL.

[9.1 MASTER FEE SCHEDULE]

>> ONTO SECTION NINE. ORDINANCES FIRST READING. MASTER FREE SCHEDULE.

ORDINANCE 2020 -- 28. ESTABLISHING AND AMENDING FEES FOR THE AIRPORT, BUILDING, BUSINESS/CODE ENFORCEMENT, CEMETERY, CITY CLERK'S OFFICE, CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE, FIRE, GOLF -- FIRE, GOLF COURSE, MARINA, PARKS AND RECREATION, WASTEWATER, WATER, AND IMPACT FEES EXCLUDING WATER AND SEWER IMPACT FEES FOR FISCAL YEAR 2020/21 PROVIDING FORCE OF HER ABILITY AND PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE. ANYONE CAN SPEAK.

>> WE NEED A MOTION. >> I RECOMMEND APPROVAL. >> I SECOND PERIOD.

>> I HAVE THREE CONCERNS. THE FIRST IS TWO DIFFERENT PRICES ON THE PLAQUE.

WHY DO WE STILL HAVE THIS SPIRIT WON OF THE BIG PROBLEMS WE HAD IS WE APPROVED A PRELIMINARY.

SO, ONE OF MY QUESTIONS IS, CAN WE GET RID OF THE PRELIMINARY PLAT WHAT DO WE NEED TO DO TO CHANGE IT BECAUSE WE CAN'T DO ANY CONSTRUCTION WHY DO WE HAVE TO --

>> WHAT YOU ARE CONCERNED WITH WE ARE COVERING AND THE NEXT ORDINANCE.

WHEN WE HAVE A PRELIMINARY PLAN APPROVED THE CITY HAS ALLOWED AFTER APPROVAL FOR THE SITE HEARING TO START WHICH IS TREES WITH PERMITS BEING TAKEN DOWN. A SITE PLAN TRYING TO GET

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EXECUTED. THEN YOUR POST FINAL ONE. THIS IS A GUTTER.

WE ARE CHANGING THAT NOW. SITE CLEARING REQUIRES A PERMIT. MS. GIBSON IS HERE TO TELL YOU WHICH PERMITS MUST BE PULLED. WE NOW REQUIRE THAT. GAS WITH KELLY GIBSON.

I DON'T HAVE THE CODE BUT THERE IS A SECTION AND THE REASON WE DO JUST A FINAL PRODUCT SOMETIMES IS WHEN THERE IS NO INFRASTRUCTURE, THAT THE CITY WILL ACCEPT AND A FINAL ACCEPTANCE OF THAT, THEN WE WILL GO TO FINAL. IF THE CITY IS WILLING TO ACCEPT INFRASTRUCTURES LIKE ROADS AND SIDEWALKS OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT, WE DO REQUIRE PRELIMINARY BECAUSE WE WANT TO REVIEW AND APPROVE BUT THE CONCERN CAN BE DEALT WITH EASILY WITH A PERMIT.

>> WERE WORKING ON THAT. >> BUT IT IS REQUIRED BY CODE THAT WE DO THAT.

>> MIGHT SECOND CONCERN IS, HAS TO DO WITH THE FEES FOR THE GOLF COURSE IN THE MARINA.

THE FUNCTION OF THE CITY COMMISSION IS TO SET POLICIES AND GOALS AND ONE OF THE GOALS IS THAT WE RUN IT LIKE A BUSINESS AND THE GOALS OF THE CALL FOR SEVEN MARINA SHOULD NOT BE SUBSIDIZED. THE CITY HAS HIRED PROFESSIONAL MANAGEMENT COMPANIES TO RUN THE GOLF COURSE AND THE MARINA. I BELIEVE THE MANAGEMENT COMPANY SHOULD DETERMINE THE OPTIMAL PRICES FOR THE SERVICE. AND THE MANAGEMENT COMPANY SHOULD CHANGE THIS.

THIS IS AN EXAMPLE IS THE MARINA FILLS UP SO I WOULD LIKE TO CONSIDER CHANGING THE FEES SCHEDULE SO IT IS SET BY THE MANAGEMENT COMPANY AND VISIBLE ON THEIR WEBSITE AND PUT INTO THE CONTRACT THAT THEY CAN MODIFY THE SCHEDULE. SO THAT'S ONE CONCERN.

MY SECOND CONCERN, HAS TO DO WITH PARKS AND WRECKS. I BELIEVE WE HAVE AN EXCELLENT PARK AND RECREATION DEPARTMENT THAT CONTRIBUTES TO THE CITY'S QUALITY-OF-LIFE.

THIS IS TO THE STAFF. WE APPRECIATE WHAT YOU DO. 18% OF THE BUDGET IS ATTRIBUTED TO THE PARKS AND RECREATION DEPARTMENT. MANY NON- CITY RESIDENTS ARE USING THIS. SO I REVIEWED THE PARKS AND RECREATION ASSESSMENT WHICH WE REVIEWED LAST JANUARY 19. AT THAT TIME NO WRITTEN POLICY TO DETERMINE THE COST RECOVERY.

THAT MEANS 80% OF THE COST OF ALL PARTICIPANTS INCLUDING NON- CITY RESIDENTS, THERE IS SYSTEM TO TRACK DIRECT AND INDIRECT COSTS FOR MAINTAINING THE PARKS, TRAILS PLAYGROUNDS AND THE INDIRECT COSTS OF THE PROGRAM SPIRIT MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT HAS NOT CHANGED.

SO I WOULD WISH ON

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.