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[CALL TO ORDER]

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>> WE'RE READY. >> OKAY. >> CALL TO ORDER, THIS IS THE FERNANDINA BEACH WORKSHOP. IT IS JUST AFTER 6 P.M. AND MADAM CLERK, PLEASE CALL THE ROLL.

>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH, IF YOU PLEASE RISE FOR THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE.

[4. PRESENTATION]

>> THANK YOU, VERY MUCH, WE START WITH ITEM 4, PRESENTATION FROM THE CITY MANAGER REGARDING THIS BUDGET MEETING.

>> THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR, AND GOOD EVENING COMMISSIONERS.

I HAVE HANDOUTS AT THIS TIME BUT I'LL PROVIDE THEM EITHER AFTER THE MEETING OR FIRST THING TOMORROW MORNING.

JUST A QUICK REMINDER OF HOW WE GOT TO WHERE WE ARE.

THE CITY COMMISSION ADOPTED THE ROLLBACK RATE AND HAD 5.4683 MILLS. IT IS PROPOSED AT 5.636 MILLS.

THIS QUALIFIES AS A TAX INCREASE ACCORDING TO FLORIDA STATE STATUTE, AND WE'LL ACTUALLY SEE AN INCREASE.

THE SUBJECT TONIGHT IS THE PROJECTS THAT ARE INCLUDED IN THIS YEAR'S PROPOSED BUDGET AND WE'LL MOVE THROUGH THE ENTERPRISE FUNDS AND THE GENERAL FUND AND THE CAPITALIZED FUNDS AND ANY OTHER ISSUES. THE CAPITAL PROJECTS. THIS IS WHAT WE REFER TO AS 300. THEY'RE CONTRIBUTIONS FROM THE GENERAL FUND.

THE TOTAL GENERAL FUND CONTRIBUTIONS FROM THESE PROJECTS TOTALS 2.2 MILLION DOLLARS. MOST OF IT GOES TO DEBT SERVICE.

WE'RE CONTINUING TO PAY THE DEBT THAT WAS ORIGINALLY ASSOCIATED WITH THE -- WITH THE PURCHASE OF THE FRONT STREET AND OTHER THINGS AND FINANCING AND ALSO ON THE FIRE DEPARTMENT VEHICLES.

550,000 DOLLARS IS ASSOCIATED [INDISCERNIBLE].

THAT'S THE [INDISCERNIBLE] OF THE BUILDING AS WELL AS THE NEXT PHASE OF THE WINDOWS, WHICH I BELIEVE IS THE LAST PHASE. YES, IT IS. STREETS, 323,000 DOLLARS, THAT'S FOR BOTH PAVEMENT AND STRIPING.

AND WE HAVE REMOVED 150,000 DOLLARS OF BUCCANEER FIELD FENCING REPLACEMENT. AND RACE TECHNOLOGY HAS 110,000 DOLLARS OF EQUIPMENT. SIDEWALKS 100,000 DOLLARS FOR REPLACING AND CONSTRUCTING NEW SIDEWALKS. 80,000 DOLLARS AT CITY HALL TO REPLACE THE ROOF. STREETS, A VEHICLE, A BUCKET TRUCK OR 75,000 DOLLARS AND ANOTHER ONE AT THE REC CENTER FOR 65,000 DOLLARS AND REPLACING THE NORTHEAST BOARDWALK FOR 50,000 DOLLARS. AND THEN MOVE TO FUND THREE 10, I'M SORRY.

>> THE ENTIRE BOARDWALK, THAT'S REPLANTING IT.

>> CORRECT. >> THIS IS -- THIS WAS WHAT WAS REFERRED TO AS 310. THESE ARE IMPACT FEES, FEES THAT ARE PAID WITH ASSOCIATION OF PERMITS. THEY'RE NOT PART OF YOUR PROPERTY TAXES. THE USE OF THE IMPACT FEES IS 900,000 DOLLARS FOR HAND ACQUISITION. AND 300,000 DOLLARS FOR THE WATERFRONT PARK, AND 300,000 DOLLARS FOR SIMMONS ROAD PARK AND THE MARTIN LUTHER KING FIELDS HAVE BEEN ELIMINATED. AND THE BEACH WALK OVER ACCESS, 86,000 DOLLARS. AND CALLING BERG AND MORE SIDEWALKS, 25,000

DOLLARS. >> COMMENT. >> YES.

>> THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. SO I JUST -- I -- I PUT THE PARKS AND RECREATION COMMUNITY MEETING IN WHICH THE [INDISCERNIBLE] WAS DISCUSSED AND THERE WAS A PRESENTATION.

SO THE -- THE FIRST PHASE OF THE VARIANCE WILL COST 287,000

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DOLLARS. SO I'M NOT QUITE SURE THAT -- THAT -- THAT 85,000 DOLLARS IS HERE AND IN THE FIVE-YEAR PLAN, THERE ARE NO OTHER FUNDS PROJECTED FOR THE [INDISCERNIBLE].

SO GOING BY THE -- THE DESIGNERS PHASE ONE ESTIMATE OF 287,000 DOLLARS, WE WOULD NEED AT LEAST THREE YEARS OF 85,000 DOLLARS TO BE PROJECTED OUT, TOTAL COST OF THE PROJECT IS 1.8 MILLION DOLLARS. SO I'M NOT QUITE SURE HOW THIS FITS INTO OUR BUDGET, EVEN PHASE ONE. SO I WANTED TO MAKE

THAT POINT. THANK YOU. >> IS THAT 1.8

MILLION DOLLAR PROJECT? >> THAT WAS THE PROJECT THAT WAS PRESENTED BY THE CONSULTANT TODAY.

AGAIN, THESE ARE IMPACT FEES. ONE -- ONE OF THE KEY REASONS THAT -- THAT -- THAT IT IS 85,000 DOLLARS FOR THE BUDGET IS -- AS BEEN DISCUSSED BEFORE, THE KEY PRIORITIES THAT ESTABLISHED BY YOU AS A COMMISSION WAS WATERFRONT CONSERVATION INFRASTRUCTURE, WHICH WAS WHAT LED TO THE ELIMINATION OF THE MARTIN LUTHER KING JR. DEAL.

THAT'S NOT A PROJECT THAT SUPPORTS THE PRIORITIES AS YOU AND A COMMISSION STAFF, IF YOU WANT TO ADD MORE MONEY, THESE ARE IMPACT FEES. THE DISCUSSION ALL ALONG HAS BEEN THE ANTICIPATION OF USING IMPACT FEES FOR THE WATERFRONT PARK.

SO AGAIN, THIS IS -- THIS IS AT YOUR DISCRETION HOW YOU

WANT TO ALLOCATE IMPACT FEES. >> COULD YOU BACK UP? I WANT TO SEE THE PREVIOUS PLAN AND LOOK AT ONE THING.

SIDEWALKS AT 100,000. NOW CAN YOU FORWARD TO THE IMPACT FEE.

WITH THE NEW SIDEWALKS, WE COULD DO THEM ALL.

THAT WOULD BE A WAY FOR IMPACT FEE AND IT IS APPROPRIATE.

AND THE SIDEWALK IS DOING WELL. >> THE CITY HAS SEVERAL ENTERPRISE FUNDS. WHAT YOU SEE AFTER THE NAME IS THE FUND NUMBER THAT IS USED INTERNALLY.

I'LL GO THROUGH EACH OF THESE IN THE ORDER THAT THEY ARE TYPICALLY PRESENTED IN THE BUDGET. AND THE GOLF COURSE, YOU'LL SEE THAT ALL FUND OBVIOUSLY HAVE A BALANCED BUDGET.

WE HAVE 360,000 DOLLARS AND EXPENSES OF 360,000 DOLLARS AND GRAIN RECONSTRUCTION WAS ORIGINALLY IN THE PLAN IF YOU GO BACK AND REVIEW THE CAPITAL PLAN AND WAS PROPOSED AT 250,000 DOLLARS BUT BASED ON THE WORK THAT MR. MURPHY HAS DONE WITH THE CONSULTANT AND THE VENDOR ON THE PRACTICE GREENS AND NORTH CONSTRUCTION OF TWO GREENS, THEY BELIEVE THAT COULD BE DONE AT HALF THE PRICE, 125,000 DOLLARS. OTHER THINGS ON THE GOLF COURSE, A ROOF ON THE BUILDING FOR 38,000 DOLLARS.

AND THE FLOOR, 27,000 DOLLARS AND KITCHEN APPLIANCES FOR 20,000 DOLLARS. THE NOTE AT THE BOTTOM INDICATES THE GENERAL FUND TRANSFER IS GOING TO CONTINUE. IT IS LIMITED, I KNOW THERE APPARENTLY WAS SOME SURPRISE THAT WE'RE NOT FOLLOWING THE STAN TECH MODEL BUT IT WAS RENDERED IRRELEVANT WHEN THE CITY COMMISSION DECIDED NOT TO GO AT THE MILL RATE.

AT THE MILL RATE, AS PROPOSED IS NOT SUSTAINABLE.

SO ONCE THE MOTION WAS MADE TO GO TO THE ADJUSTED RATE, THE STAN TECH MODEL IS IRRELEVANT. SO THE GOLF COURSE CONTINUES TO INCLUDE THE GENERAL FUND TRANSFER UNDER THE STAN TECH MODEL IT WAS 180,000 DOLLARS AND GONE BACK TO 120,000 DOLLARS. THE DEBT SERVICE, THIS BUDGET WILL BE THE LAST YEAR OF THE GOLF COURSE DEBT SERVICE AND THAT'S 118,000

DOLLARS. >> WHEN YOU SAY IT IS BALANCED, IT IS BALANCED. WE ACTUALLY REPORT. THIS IS -- THIS IS THE

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ENTERPRISE FUND THAT IS SUPPORTING ITSELF. I WOULD THINK THEY ARE GOING THROUGH THE SAME CATEGORY AND THE ELIMINATION IF NECESSARY. I WILL SAY THAT THE GOLF COURSE IS TO THEIR CREDIT ALL OF THESE WERE IN THE CAPITAL FUND, UNLIKE -- UNLIKE THE TECH CENTER. THAT'S A POSITIVE

THING. >> WE ARE LOOKING AT ADDITIONAL REVENUES AND WE ARE LOOKING AT A VARIETY OF WAYS OF CONTINUING TO REDUCE EXPENSES. WE THINK WE HAVE VIABLE METHODS TO -- TO -- TO CONSIDER BOTH THE REVENUES AND THE EXPENSES SIDE.

SO I EXPECT THIS NUMBER WILL SUBSTANTIALLY CHANGE BEFORE THE END OF NEXT FISCAL YEAR. LET ME GO BACK.

THE YEAR END RESERVE IS 1.6 MILLION DOLLAR DEFICIT.

SO WE WILL BE -- THE GOLF COURSE, WE'RE IN THE HOLE UNTIL WE GENERATE REVENUES TO BEGIN TO FILL THAT HOLE AND MOVE OUT OF THAT. REGARDING THE AIRPORT, AIRPORT HAS APPROXIMATELY 5.3 MILLION DOLLARS. SEVERAL HIGH VALUE ITEMS ARE IN THE AIRPORT BUDGET, RUNWAY 422 AND PAVEMENT AND LIGHTING 2.6 MILLION DOLLARS, THAT'S FUNDED 100 PERCENT BY THE FAA AND F-DOT SO THERE'S IN AIRPORT DOLLARS. THIS IS AN ENTERPRISE FUND, NONE OF THESE PROJECTS AT THE AIRPORT INVOLVE GENERAL FUND TAX DOLLARS. THEY HAVE CONSTRUCTION AND CONSTRUCTION ADMINISTRATION FOR 1.1 MILLION AND A FUEL FARM FOR HALF A MILLION AND PARKING DESIGN AT 80,000 DOLLARS AND STORM WATER IMPROVEMENTS AT 50,000 DOLLARS.

THE AIRPORT IS PROJECTED TO END THE YEAR WITH A SURPLUS OF

154,000 DOLLARS. >> IS THAT GOING TO GET US

[INDISCERNIBLE]? >> I'M SORRY. >> [INDISCERNIBLE].

>> I BELIEVE -- THE BUILDING IS TYPICALLY, IS TYPICALLY ALLOCATIONS OF SIX. I'M NOT SURE IF IT IS SIX OR 12.

THERE'S A WAITING LIST OF APPROXIMATELY 50 TO 60 PEOPLE ON -- ON THE

AIRPORT'S WAITING LIST. >> AND

[INDISCERNIBLE] ON THAT PROJECT? >> THAT IS INTENDED TO BE COMPLETED IN THE NEXT FISCAL YEAR. THIS IS PRETTY STRAIGHTFORWARD. THIS IS WHERE WHEN RESIDENTS PAY SANITATION FEES AND WE PAY DISPOSAL IT FLOWS OUT.

REVENUES OF APPROXIMATELY 3 MILLION DOLLARS AND THE PROJECTED YEAR END RESERVE IS APPROXIMATELY 280,000 DOLLARS. WASTE WATER AND EXPENSES OF APPROXIMATELY HALF MILLION DOLLARS. AND SOME UPGRADES AND PROJECTS IN THE SYSTEM. THE OTHER IMPROVEMENTS EACH OF 50,000 DOLLARS IN THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN AND SO YEAR END RESERVE OF 5 MILLION DOLLARS. LET ME GET BACK TO THIS. WE DID INCORPORATE INTO THE BUDGET, THE REDUCTION OF APPROXIMATELY NEARLY 15 PERCENT IN WASTE WATER FEES. SO RESIDENTS SHOULD SEE A REDUCTION IN THE WASTE WATER FEES. WATER DEPARTMENT, 10.5 MILLION DOLLAR BUDGET.

AND AGAIN, ADDITIONAL AUTOMATION AND WATER METER REPLACEMENT AND THEY HAVE A POLICY OF REPLACING WATER METERS EVER 15 YEARS.

THEY HAVE THE WATER METERS REPLACED AND THEY'RE SCHEDULED TO BE REPLACE ADD EXPECTED TO END THE YEAR WITH 5.25 MILLION DOLLARS IN RESERVE. STORM WATER AND EXPENSES 3.9 MILLION DOLLARS AND LAUNCH TICKET PURCHASES THIS YEARS AND THE VACUUM TRUCK AND 45,000 DOLLARS AND SEVERAL PROJECTS INDICATED THERE. THEY WILL END THE YEAR IN RESERVE WITH -- WITH A NEGATIVE BALANCE OF 219,000 DOLLARS.

THAT'S PRIMARILY DUE TO THE TIMING OF THE LARGE PROJECTS.

IT FLOWS IN AND OUT -- IN AND OUT OF POSITIVE RESERVE AND A NEGATIVE

RESERVE. >> THOSE NUMBERS, 10 MILLION AND 3 MILLION.

>> YOU'RE RIGHT IT IS A 10 MILLION NUMBER. COPY AND PASTING.

>> WHAT? >> REVENUES ARE TEN AND EXPENSES ARE TEN.

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>> I WILL CORRECT IT IN THE HANDOUTS. >> THE MAYOR, FOR EXAMPLE, I THINK THE 85, 575,000 DOLLARS IS A STATE FUNDED

PROJECT. >> CORRECT. THEY'RE GRANT FUNDED WHETHER THEY'RE STATE FOR -- FOR THE LOCAL -- THE LOCAL FACILITY.

8 MILLION DOLLARS, THESE NUMBERS MATCH ON THIS ONE.

AND THE WATERFRONT BOARDWALK AND [INDISCERNIBLE] AND THEY'RE FUNDED 50 PERCENT THROUGH FINE. AND THE MOORING FIELD, WE'RE IN THE FINAL YEAR, I BELIEVE MISS JACOBS HAS SAID IN ORDER TO RECOUP THE FEES, WE'RE ABLE TO EXECUTE THE DESIGN AND RECOVER COSTS ASSOCIATED WITH THE DESIGN.

THE WARREN FIELD IS THERE, THE BOARDWALK, WE HAVE NOT BEEN OFFICIALLY AWARDED THAT GRANT. WE ANTICIPATE THAT.

250,000 WITH 250,000 DOLLAR MATCH IN OCTOBER.

THE GENERAL FUND MATCH IS CONTINUING. 300,000 DOLLARS WHICH IS WHAT HAS BEEN TRANSFERRED IN THE LAST SEVERAL YEARS.

AND THEY BUMP THAT UP TO ONE MILLION. WE'RE BACK TO THE 300,000 DOLLARS. WE ANTICIPATE THE -- THE FEE IN THE STATE OF FLORIDA REIMBURSEMENTS. WE'RE IN THE PROCESS OF TARTING OUR FINAL REVIEW OF APPEAL DOCUMENTS BEFORE WE SUBMIT THEM TO THE STATE. THOSE ARE DUE TO THE STATE ON AUGUST 27. WE WILL LOOK AT REFINANCING THE INTERNAL DEBT. WE HAVE TWO DEBTS, EXTERNAL DEBT, 2,016 AND THEN OUR OWN UTILITY FUND SO BY THE TIME WE REPACKAGE THAT AND THE GENERAL FUND TRANSFER AND THE PROJECTED REVENUES FOR THE MARINA, SHOULD BE IN THE BLACK BY ABOUT 200,000 DOLLARS.

SO AS -- AS THAT MOVES ON, WE WILL CHIP AWAY AT THE NEGATIVE BALANCE OF 4.3 MILLION DOLLARS. THE FEMA AND STATE REIMBURSEMENT IS APPROXIMATELY 7 MILLION DOLLARS.

AND THE INTERNAL REFINANCING OF THE INTERNAL DEBT WILL STRETCH THAT OUT AND THAT WILL HAVE TO COME BACK TO YOU FOR FORMAL CONSIDERATION BUT BASICALLY IT IS REPACKAGING THE LOANS THAT -- THAT CURRENTLY BEEN PROVIDED BY THE UTILITY, AT A MORE FAVORABLE INTEREST RATE AND OVER A LONGER PERIOD OF TIME TO MAKE THE THREE MILLION DOLLAR DEBT MANAGEABLE.

THAT'S A QUICK OVERVIEW OF THE ENTERPRISE FUNDS.

SO -- SO -- SO FIGURE OUT WHAT QUESTIONS YOU HAVE.

AND I KNOW THE MAYOR INDICATED HE HAD QUESTIONS AND COMMENTS

HE WANTED TO MAKE. >> ALSO, I ALSO HAVE A QUESTION.

>> MY CONCERN IS IF WE KEEP UP THE MONEY IN THE GOLF COURSE AND THE MARINA AND WE KEEP IT OUT OF THE PROJECTS AND THIS YEAR WITH THE MLK FIELD, AND MAY NOT BE [INDISCERNIBLE] AND SEQUENTIALLY BUT WILL TAKE YOU OUT TO SUPPORT THE ENTERPRISE FUNDS.

SO OVER THE YEARS THE [INDISCERNIBLE] AND THE FACILITIES CONTINUE TO DETERIORATE UNTIL ALL OF A SUDDEN YOU'RE [INDISCERNIBLE] AND SPEND 550,000 DOLLARS AND THEN 750.

THAT'S THE INTENT, WHERE WE COULD PROGRESS ON THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT WHEN WE THINK IT IS SIGNIFICANT PROGRESS.

I ALSO BELIEVE THAT -- YOU KNOW, THAT -- THAT -- AS WE'RE ALL AWARE, [INDISCERNIBLE] SO WE'RE -- WE'RE WINDING AND TAKING THE RESERVES TO SUPPORT THE BUDGET AND SO I WOULD LIKE TO LOOK MORE CLOSELY AT PARTICULARLY VEHICLES. ALL OF THE VEHICLES EMERGE FOR A YEAR AND PUT THAT BACK IN THE RESERVES.

THOSE ARE THE THINGS I LOOKED AT. CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN. WHEN SOMETHING POPS UP EVERY YEAR, IT IS REQUIRED BY LAW, AND WE MOVE FORWARD. SO I THINK WE NEED TO LOOK AT -- AT -- AT EVERYTHING THERE AND SEE WHETHER IT IS

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REALLY NEEDED. IF WE COULD DO MORE OF THE 100,000 DOLLAR SIDEWALK IN THE IMPACT FUND, WE SHOULD DO THAT AND PUT THAT

EXTRA MONEY BACK INTO THE RESERVES. >> THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. COULD YOU GO BACK TO THE GOLF COURSE SLIDE FOR ME, PLEASE. YOU SEE THE YEAR END RESERVES AND ONE QUESTION IS ACCOUNTING QUESTION. THE PROP PERT FOY THE PARK, THAT WAS -- THAT WAS GOLF COURSE PROPERTY, YES?

>> YES, THE INTENT WAS TO ADD THAT TO THE GOLF COURSE AND -- THERE'S SEVERAL PARCELS IN THE AREA. I BELIEVE THE INTENT WAS TO CREATE ANOTHER NINE HOLES FOR THE GOLF COURSE.

>> OKAY. THANK YOU. SINCE PARKS AND REC IS MAKING WHAT IS GOLF COURSE PROPERTY, SHOULDN'T THEY HAVE TO PAY FOR THE PROPERTY, JUST AS -- AS IF -- AS IF THAT PROPERTY WAS BEING USED BY SOMEONE ELSE? SO THE GOLF COURSE IS AN ENTERPRISE FUND. PARKS AND REC IS A SEPARATE DEPARTMENT.

THAT PROPERTY ISN'T FREE. IT SEEMS THAT -- THAT PARKS AND REC SHOULD BE PAYING FOR THE PROPERTY WHICH WOULD LOWER VICE MAYOR'S POINT AND WOULD ADD MONEY TO THE -- TO THE

ENTERPRISE FUND. >> I BELIEVE THOUGH TALKED TO THE AUDITORS AND DIDN'T AGREE THEY HAD TO PAY FROM PARKS AND REC TO THE GOLF COURSE. I'M SURE WE CAN GET HER TO PROVIDE SOME OF THE ADDITIONAL BACKGROUND FOR DISCUSSIONS WITH THE

AUDITOR ON THAT. >> OKAY. WELL, IT -- IT JUSTICE OCCURRED TO ME, WE COULD TAKE PROPERTY FROM AN ENTERPRISE FUND AND GIVE TO DEPARTMENT AND THE ENTERPRISE FUND SUFFERS WITH NO REIMBURSEMENT. THAT DOESN'T SEEM

RIGHT TO ME. >> I'LL WORK WITH THE AUDITORS ON THAT.

>> OKAY. THANK YOU. >> THE PROPERTY WAS

NORMALLY, I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S TRUE. >> THAT'S IN THE

TRUE. >> SOME THING APPLIES TO THE MARINA.

THAT WAS A [INDISCERNIBLE] I BELIEVE.

AND WE HAVE -- WE HAVE -- WE HAVE [INDISCERNIBLE] FOR A PARK. SO -- SO IT COMES OUT OF THEIR NET INTO -- INTO SOMEBODY ELSE'S NET. WE'RE PENALIZING THEM.

IF THE CITY PURCHASED THAT LAND FOR THE GOLF COURSE, IT WOULD SEEM TO MAKE SENSE THAT -- THAT THERE'S A TRANSFER THERE.

>> THAT DISCUSSION WAS HELD WHEN WE TALKED ABOUT WHETHER TO FUND IT. WHETHER TO FUND THAT CORRECTLY.

THAT WAS BROUGHT UP AT THE HEARING AND BEEN ON THE TABLE SINCE THEN. IT IS PASSED. THAT'S WHERE WE ARE.

>> THE 80,000 DOLLARS FOR THE ROOF AT CITY HALL.

IS THAT BECAUSE WE DECIDED WE'RE STAYING HE

HERE? >> IT WAS REDUCED IN THE BUDGET, WE'RE CONTINUING TO DO ASSESSMENT AND I BELIEVE THAT'S TOMORROW OR THURSDAY. THAT'S BEEN SCALED BACK TO ONLY A NEED ASSESSMENT AND ASSESSMENT OF THIS SITE.

SO WE WILL BE TURNING BUT -- BUT AFTER LENGTHY DISCUSSIONS WITH MR. GLISTEN, THERE WAS OTHER PROJECTS INCLUDING THE REPLACEMENT OF THE STUCCO ON THE BUILDING AND MAKE SURE WE MADE THE DETERMINATION THAT THE ROOF NEEDED REPLACEMENT.

IF WE LOOK AT BUILDING ANOTHER FACILITY OR SOME PLACE ELSE, THIS

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WILL BE USED FOR GOVERNMENT PURPOSES. >> THANK YOU.

>> I THINK -- I THINK IT IS THE SAME GOAL. THERE'S GOING TO BE MOTIVATION AND WE DISCUSSED IT AND THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT IS SELF-SUPPORTING AND THEY SHOULD BE PAYING RENT AND THEY SHOULD BE PAYING [INDISCERNIBLE] OF THE NEW ROOF AND THE STUCCO IF THAT'S THE CASE AND AGAIN THEY HAVE RESERVES THAT THEY CAN PAY AND GO BACK INTO OUR RESERVES.

>> YOU ASKING A QUESTION? >> NO.

>> 8 MILLION DOLLARS FOR THE COLIN BERRY. PARKS AND REC MADE THAT A PRIORITY THAT'S SOMETHING THEY WANT TO SPEND THAT MUCH MONEY

ON? >> I THINK THERE'S A STRONG DESIRE FOR THAT PROJECT AND THE QUESTION HAS ALWAYS BEEN COMMUNITY DESIRE WHICH IS EBB AND FLOW. I THINK IT IS RISING FOR THAT.

IT WOULD PROVIDE A VALUABLE SERVICE AND A REVENUE SOURCE FOR THE

CEMETERY. >> SO [INDISCERNIBLE] AND THE [INDISCERNIBLE]. THIS ELEVATES IT ABOVE GROUND AND A NICE STRUCTURE OUTSIDE AND PUT A THING ON THE FRONT AND A PLAQUE.

THEY GET A PLOT AND BURY IT IN THE GROUND. >> THIS WOULD EXPAND THE CAPACITY OF THE CEMETERY AND YOU DON'T NEED TO PUT THEM IN A

PLOT AND OTHERWISE TAKE UP A PLOT. >> THAT 1.2 MILLION DOLLARS WAS PHASED. FOUR OR FIVE SEGMENTS, THE FIRST SEGMENT WAS

230,000 DOLLARS. >> IT GETS BIGGER? >> NO, IT IS ONE AREA

AND THEN PHASING IT IN DIFFERENT AREAS. >> I DON'T THINK

WE'VE SEEN THAT. >> I DIDN'T SEE IT. >> YEAH, OKAY.

[INDISCERNIBLE]. >> PART OF COMMISSIONER ROSS IS REFERRING TO IS THE -- IS THE -- IS THE BRANCH PARK WENT OVER THAT CONCEPT WITH THE PARKS AND RECREATION ADVISORY COMMITTEE THIS AFTERNOON AND WHAT I CAN DO IS COPY THAT.

>> THAT MEETING. YOU'RE INVOLVED IN THAT MEETING?

>> MR. MAYOR, I WAS AT THE MEETING. MR. MAYOR, THE FIRST PHASE WOULD BE 287,000 DOLLARS AND THAT -- THAT IS FOR THE -- FOR THE MAIN ARCHWAY. IT IS LIKE A -- A -- IT IS LIKE A COLLAR THAT WOULD -- THAT WOULD ADD SPACES FOR ABOUT 300.

THE SECOND PHASE IS ABOUT 450,000 DOLLARS. THAT'S A MORE EXPENSIVE WALL GOING DOWN ONE SIDE OF THE CEMETERY AND THEN THE -- THEN THE -- THEN THE THIRD AND FOURTH PHASES WERE EACH AROUND THE SAME -- ABOUT 300,000 DOLLARS EACH.

SO IN TOTAL, THERE'S ABOUT -- ABOUT 1100 OR 1200 SPACES.

THAT COULD BE PUT UP FOR SALE. AND WHAT -- WHAT PARKS AND REC DID, WAS THEY TOOK NO ACTION BECAUS THEY NOTED ON THE FIVE-YEAR CAPITAL PLAN, BEYOND THE 85,000 DOLLARS IN THIS YEAR'S BUDGET, THERE WAS -- THERE WAS NO ALLOCATION OF FUNDS PROJECTED OUT. SO THEY -- THEY ASKED THE QUESTION, WELL, IS THE CITY GOING TO FUND THIS OR IS THE CITY NOT FUNDING IT? SO THEY DECIDED TO TAKE NO ACTION UNTIL THEY HAD AN ANSWER TO THAT QUESTION. ON A TECHNICAL ISSUE, I'M REALLY MISSING

COMMISSIONER'S CHAPMAN AND ROSS. >> YOU'RE NOT MISSING

MUCH. >> [INDISCERNIBLE]. >> IMPACT FEES.

>> YES, SIR. I CAN'T MESS WITH MY COMPUTER BECAUSE OF THE SETUP, I DON'T [INDISCERNIBLE] OFF HAND WHAT THE CURRENT BALANCE IS OF THE IMPACT FEES. SHE COULD LOOK THAT

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UP. >> AND [INDISCERNIBLE] AND THE LAND BASE FOR THE CEMETERY AND I ONLY GET FIVE OR SIX AT THE

MOST. >> YOU'RE ABOUT TO RUN OUT OF TIME.

>> IT SURPRISED ME THAT THAT MUCH IS IN DEMAND RIGHT NOW.

>> I'M -- I'M -- I'M WITH APPROVAL. I WOULD LIKE TO -- TO -- THAT THE CITY MADE SURE THAT I DON'T THINK WE [INDISCERNIBLE] NOURISHMENT IN YEAR FIVE WHICH IF IT HAPPENED WOULD BE IN A BIG AMOUNT. I DON'T THINK WE PUT TOGETHER THE SHORELINE STABILIZATION WHICH WE PROBABLY WON'T SEE.

WE MAY SEE IT IN FIVE YEARS, WHICH IS 27 MILLION DOLLAR JOB, WITH THE 35 PERCENT MATCH. I THINK IT SHOULD BE IN THERE, CONSIDERING -- CONSIDERING THEY -- THEY -- THEY GO TO THE CORE AND THE PROJECT NUMBER. I THINK IT HAS TO GO THROUGH [INDISCERNIBLE] SO IT COULD BE FOREVER.

IT SHOULD BE IN THERE BECAUSE DOWN THE LINE IT IS --

>> MR. MAYOR, MAY I MAKE A COMMENT? >> GO AHEAD.

>> THANK YOU. >> THIS WEEK I UNDERSTAND THERE WERE SOME -- SOME SEVERE STORMS THAT YOU HAD. ANY TIME WE HAVE A STORM, ACCESS 40, WASHES OUT, THE VERY FIRST PART OF THAT.

AND I --ED E-MAILS TO THE CITY MANAGER ASKING FOR A SOLUTION.

OF COURSE IF WE WANT PERMANENT SOLUTION SO THIS DOESN'T KEEP HAPPENING, WE'RE WITH A LIABILITY WITH THAT CAVING IN FROM THE EROSION AND THE STORMS. I HAVEN'T SPOKEN WITH DALE SINCE SENDING AN E-MAIL. I DON'T KNOW WHETHER HE HAS AN UPDATE BUT CERTAINLY WE NEED TO CONSIDER MONEY TO TRY TO FIX THAT.

>> MR. MAYOR? >> YES. I HAVE -- I HAVE BOTH THE STORM WATER MANAGER OR DIRECTOR. HE SHOULD BE PROVIDING ME WITH SOME POTENTIAL SHORT-TERM AS WELL AS LONG-TERM SOLUTIONS.

I EXPECT TO HAVE THOSE SOMETIME THIS MONTH. >> THANK YOU.

>> OKAY. >> ANYBODY ELSE? >> IT IS -- IT IS --

YEAH, GO AHEAD. >> NO REQUEST TO SPEAK.

>> NO REQUEST TO SPEAK. >> OKAY.

ANYBODY ELSE? >> PAGE B7 AND SEE WHAT THE DIRECTIVE

IMPACT [INDISCERNIBLE]. >> YOU SAID PAGE 87.

>> 87. >> [INDISCERNIBLE]. >> SO WHAT THAT SHOWS ON PAGE 88 IS THE PROJECTED IMPACT FOR PARKS AND REC AT THE END OF THE PROPOSED BUDGET IS ABOUT 287,000 DOLLARS.

>> THANK YOU. >> ANYBODY ELSE? >> I'M GOOD.

>> THANK YOU VERY

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