Aug 04, 2020 Regular Meeting

[CALL TO ORDER]

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>>> THIS IS OUR CALL TO ORDER THIS IS THE REGULAR MEETING TODAY IS AUGUST 4, 2020 IT IS 6:00 P.M. CAN YOU PLEASE CALL THE ROLE. CHANGE THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

COULD YOU ALL PLEASE STAND FOR THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE AND PLEASE KEEP STANDING FOR THE

INVITATION. >> I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, ANSWER THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS ONE NATION UNDER GOD INDIVISIBLE WITH LIBERTY AND

JUSTICE FOR ALL. >>> DEAR LORD, AND HUMBLE RECOGNITION OF YOUR SOVEREIGNTY.

YOUR SUPREME AUTHORITY OVER ALL THINGS. YOU ARE, THE ALL-KNOWING GOD.

THE ALL SEEING ALMIGHTY GOD. WE ASK YOUR FORGIVENESS FOR SINS, COMMITTED PAST, PRESENT AND FUTURE. WE ASK YOUR PRESENCE AND SEEK YOUR GUIDANCE DURING THESE PROCEEDINGS, WE ASKED FOR WISDOM, KNOWLEDGE AND UNDERSTANDING.

WE PRAY FOR OUR NATION AND OUR NATION'S LEADERS. WE PRAY FOR THOSE WHO ARE IN NEED AND THOSE WHO HAVE SUFFERED DURING THIS EPIDEMIC. WE PRAY, FOR OUR LEADERSHIP THAT THEY WILL EXERCISE WISDOM IN ALL THEIR ENDEAVORS. AND CONTINUE TO LEAD US AND TO GUIDANCE AND TO PROTECT US. THIS IS OUR PRAYER IN YOUR SON JESUS NAME WE PRAY, AMEN.

>>> THANK YOU SO MUCH. >>> WE HAVE ONE PROCLAMATION THIS EVENING.

[4.1 PROCLAMATION - MR. JOVAN LEONARD RICHO, SR. ]

>>> WELCOME. >> PROCLAMATION AS A NATIVE WE WANT TO HONOR MR. JOVAN LEONARD RICHO KNOWN AS SMILEY TO HIS CLOSE FRIENDS AND FAMILY. HE WAS THE OLDEST OF THREE SIBLINGS AND A DEVOTED HUSBAND TO HIS WIFE AND HE WAS A DEVOTED FATHER.

WHEREAS MR. JOVAN LEONARD RICHO WAS A GREAT MAN WHO LOVED EVERYONE, HE ATTENDED FERNANDINA SCHOOL ZACH PARTICIPATED IN MUNI GATHERINGS AND PROVIDED FOR HIS FAMILY AND WAS A STRONG SHOULDER TO LEAN ON. A SENSELESS DISPUTE ON AUGUST 1, 2019 WAS HE WAS PULLING OTHERS OUT OF HARMS WAY HE WAS TRAGICALLY LOST HIS LIFE ON ELM STREET DUE TO GUN VIOLENCE.

AND WHEREAS THE KINDHEARTED WORDS AND CONTAGIOUS SMILE, MR. JOVAN LEONARD RICHO WAS THE EPITOME OF A GOOD MAN. HE LEAVES BEHIND A GRIEVING FAMILY, FERNANDINA'S LEGACY WILL NEVER BE FORGOTTEN -- TRACK MR. JOVAN LEONARD RICHO'S LEGACY WILL BE HONORED.

NOW FROM THE CITY OF FERNANDINA, WE HUMBLY RESPECTFULLY CALL UPON ALL CITIZENS TO HONOR THE LIFE OF MR. JOVAN LEONARD RICHO AND WE CALL UPON CITIZENS TO RECOGNIZE, HIS FRIENDS, FAMILY AND LOVED ONES AND TO PAY THEM THE HIGHEST RECOGNITION BY GOOD DEEDS, KIND REMARKS AND APRON COMPASSIONATE ATTITUDE. THE PROCLAMATION IS PRESENTED IN A PERMANENT MATTER OF THE RECORD AND THE CITY OF MISSION, AS A TESTIMONIAL OF OUR SINCEREST CONDOLENCES TO THE FAMILY.

>> AND I PUT MY HAND TO THAT NOW. AND I OFFER YOU MY SINCEREST

CONDOLENCES. >> THANK YOU. >> DID ANYONE WANT TO SAY A FEW

WORDS? >> THANK YOU. >>> ITEM 4.2.

[4.2 PRESENTATION - NASSAU HUMANE SOCIETY ]

IT'S A PRESENTATION FROM THE NASSAU HUMANE SOCIETY. >> THERE IT IS RIGHT THERE.

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>> IQ. I AM ALEX FROM THE NASSAU HUMANE SOCIETY.

I AM HERE WITH BECKY. HE IS 7-YEARS-OLD. HE IS ONE OF OUR ANIMALS.

WE LIKE TO HIGHLIGHT AS MANY ANIMALS AS WE CAN. DUCKY IS HERE.

HE LIMPS WHEN HE WALKS BACK AND WE WERE ABLE TO RAISE ENOUGH MONEY TO FUND HIS SURGERY.

WE WANT TO THANK EVERYONE WHO SUPPORTED NASSAU HUMANE SOCIETY. HE IS SUPER SWEET.

HE IS ELIGIBLE FOR ADOPTION SO IF YOU KNOW ANYONE LOOKING FOR A DOG WHO IS AS LOVABLE AS THEY COME. HERE HE IS. ANY QUESTIONS?

>> THANK YOU SO MUCH, WE APPRECIATE IT. >>> BEFORE WE GO ON TO ITEM 4.3 I WANT TO RECOMMEND -- RIGHT -- RECOMMEND RECOGNIZE A COMMISSIONER.

RECOGNIZE EVERYONE. HOW ARE YOU? WELCOME.

THANK YOU FOR COMING. ANYONE ELSE THAT I MISSED? >> I THINK ONE IS HIDING

OUTSIDE. >> OKAY SO THIS IS ITEM 4.3 THE PRESENTATION FROM THE ADVANCE

[4.3 PRESENTATION - ADVANCED DISPOSAL ]

PERTAINS TO YARD DEBRIS. I KNOW I SAW HIM. >> GREAT.

>> WELCOME SIR. OKAY LET'S GO TO THE NEXT ONE. >> HOW IS EVERYONE DOING.

>> HOW ARE YOU, WELCOME BACK. >> THANK YOU. >> SO, IS THIS GOOD WITH

EVERYONE? >> WE ARE CONTRACTUALLY OBLIGATED TO DO AN ANNUAL REPORT EVERY YEAR. THIS IS OUR 2020 ANNUAL REPORT. I WILL DISCUSS, 2192 AS A COMPARISON IN MY PRESENTATION. SO, I NEED MY GLASSES THEY ARE GETTING FOGGED UP.

SO HERE IS THE AGENDA IN TERMS OF WHAT I WANT TO TALK ABOUT TONIGHT.

AS YOU ARE AWARE WE ARE BEING ACQUIRED BY WASTE MANAGEMENT AND I WANT TO TALK ABOUT THE ACQUISITION STATUS AND DEADLINE. I WANT TO TALK ABOUT COVID-19 OPERATIONS.

I WANT TO TALK ABOUT 2019 COMPARISON TO 2020 FROM JUNE. WE WILL DISCUSS COLLECTION SOLUTIONS. THIS IS SEEMED -- THIS IS THE AREA WHERE WE HAVE THE MOST AND

THEN Q&A. >> FIRST I LIKE TO SAY THANK YOU.

BECAUSE WE HIGHLY VALUE THE RELATIONSHIP OR PARTNERSHIP WE SHARE WITH THE PARTNERSHIP OF FERNANDINA BEACH AND PROVIDING CRITICAL ENVIRONMENTAL SERVICES. WE DON'T TAKE IT FOR GRANTED.

YES IT IS A CONTRACT BUT AT THE SAME TIME I LIKE TO SAY IT IS A PARTNERSHIP.

MEANING, WE MAY BE HELD TOGETHER BY A CONTRACT BUT AT THE SAME TIME IN A PARTNERSHIP IT IS GIVE-AND-TAKE. YOU WANT TO DO WHAT'S BEST FOR THE CITIZENS OF FERNANDINA BEACH SO THANK YOU. ACQUISITION STATUS AND DEADLINE. THIS IS THE LARGEST ACQUISITION IN OUR INDUSTRY'S HISTORY IN THE WASTE MANAGEMENT SECTOR. IT IS PROBABLY, I THINK IT IS CALCULATED AS A 5 BILLION-DOLLAR DEAL. IT WAS ANNOUNCED, APRIL 15, 2019. THAT HAS BEEN OVER A YEAR NOW. IT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE DONE BY THIS YEAR ON APRIL 15 BUT THERE WAS A 90 DAY EXTENSION WITH THE DEAL.

TAKING IT UP TO JULY 15. TO BE HONEST WITH YOU, IN JUNE HE DIDN'T LOOK LIKE THE DEAL WOULD HAPPEN BECAUSE WASTE MANAGEMENT, AND THE DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE WAS TOO FAR AWAY ON WHAT THEY FELT LIKE NEEDED TO BE DONE TO NOT CREATE A MONOPOLY. THEY RESTRUCTURED THE DEAL IN JUNE. THEY FOUND A BUYER. GFL WHICH IS A CANADIAN OUTFIT

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SO IT LOOKS NOW MUCH MORE PROMISING THAT THE DEAL WILL GET DONE.

IT IS SUPPOSED TO BE DONE AT THE END OF THE 3RD QUARTER WHICH WOULD BE SEPTEMBER 30.

BUT THERE IS A 60 DAY EXTENSION POSSIBLE. SO BY THE END OF NOVEMBER.

BUT I AM MUCH MORE HOPEFUL THAT THE DEAL WILL HAPPEN AS COMPARED TO BEFORE AND JUNE.

COVID-19, IMPACT ON OPERATIONS. JUST SO WE ARE ALL ON THE SAME PAGE.

IT IS A WORLDWIDE PANDEMIC. IT IS A NATIONAL EMERGENCY. OR A NATURAL THE ROSTER NOT UNLIKE A HURRICANE. THANK GOD WE DODGED A BULLET I CAN'T PRONOUNCE THE NAME OF THE HURRICANE SO I WON'T TRY. THAT IT DIDN'T HIT NORTHEAST FLORIDA.

AT THE SAME TIME DEALING WITH A PANDEMIC. BUT THIS VIRUS IS OBVIOUSLY INVISIBLE. IT IS HARD TO DETERMINE WHAT IMPACT IT WILL HAVE ON THE WORKFORCE BUT WE EARLY ON WITH ALL OF OUR PARTNERS, FERNANDINA BEING ONE WE SPOKE TO CITY STAFF AND SAID HEY, IF THE VIRUS IMPACTS OUR WORKFORCE WE NEED TO DISCUSS WHAT LINES OF COLLECTIONS WE WILL SUSPEND IN ORDER TO KEEP UP WITH THE PRIORITY WHICH IS ALWAYS TRASH.

THE GREAT THING IS WE HAVEN'T HAD TO SPEND ANYTHING. IT DOES MEAN WE HAVEN'T BEEN IMPACTED. OUR -- WE HAVE THE NUMBERS THAT WE HAVE HAD PEOPLE TEST POSITIVE FOR COVID-19. POLITICALLY OVERBLOWN BUT HISTORY WILL DETERMINE THAT.

IN THE MEANTIME, WE HAVE TO OPERATE UNDER OSHA AND CDC GUIDELINES WHERE SOMEONE TESTS POSITIVE, WE HAVE CONTACT TRACING AND WE HAVE A MANDATORY QUARANTINE.

PLUS WE HAD EMPLOYEES WERE AT HOME WERE AT RISK. THEY DIDN'T FEEL LIKE BEING AT WORK IT HAS IMPACTED THE WORKFORCE. LIKE I SAID WE STILL HAVEN'T HAD ANY MISSED SERVICES FOR COLLECTIONS. WHEN WE LOOK AT THE LINE IT IS CHANGED. WE ARE PROUD WHEN PEOPLE SAY IT IS MUNICIPAL SOLID WASTE.

GARBAGE, RECYCLING AND YARD DEBRIS HAVE ALL INCREASED. IF YOU ARE LIKE ME, I PROBABLY DID MORE AROUND MY HOUSE IN ONE MONTH THAN TWO YEARS IN TERMS OF CLEANING THINGS OUT.

SO I LIVE IN A NEWER NEIGHBORHOOD SO I DON'T HAVE THE FOLIAGE THAT YOU MAY HAVE HERE IN FERNANDINA BEACH. SO IN 2019, 42019 THESE ARE ANNUAL NUMBERS.

I'M DOING AN ANNUAL REPORT. I WANT TO PUT THINGS INTO CONTEXT.

MSW TIMES COLLECTED 5,476. RECYCLING TOTAL 1,030. YARD WASTE TOTAL TIMES COLLECTED WERE 2808. WITH A TOTAL OF 9,003 AND 14. THAT WAS JUST 2019.

IN TERMS OF THE TIMES COLLECTED. THE AVERAGE WAS 776 TONS EACH MONTH.

SO 2020, I ONLY HAVE DATA THAT WENT UNTIL JUNE. I TOOK JANUARY -JUNE 2020 AND JANUARY, 2019 TO JUNE. MSW WAS RECYCLING AND THE YARD WAIT TOTAL 1,620 WITH A TOTAL AFTER SIX MONTHS 5,517. THE AVERAGE 920. YOU CAN SEE THE DISPARITY ALREADY BETWEEN 2019 AND 2020. IT IS AN INCREASE OF 20%. 2020 ON PACE TO HAVE 11,037.

SO YOU CAN SEE, WHEN YOU HAVE AN INCREASED GOVERNMENT THAT MAKES OUR JOB THAT MUCH MORE DIFFICULT IN ORDER TO COLLECT AND BE EFFICIENT. AND FOR THE MOST PART WE HAVE DONE THAT. WE HAVE HAD AN ISSUE WITH YOUR DEBRIS.

SO, HERE AGAIN, THIS IS JUST BREAKING IT DOWN. MSW 2,192,068.

20202096. AGAIN THIS IS JANUARY -JUPITER 2019 FOR RECYCLING 504 TIMES.

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COLLECTED. >>> SO YARD WASTE SOLUTION. BECAUSE, YARD WASTE IS PROBABLY IN OUR INDUSTRY THE ONE THING THAT IS THE MOST UNPREDICTABLE AS YOU CAN IMAGINE.

HERE IN FERNANDINA BEACH YOU HAVE NOT ONLY YOUR GROWING SEASON IN MARCH THROUGH MAY, BUT AT THE SAME TIME, I FORGET WHEN THE DROP THEIR LEAVES BUT IT'S NOT THE SAME TIME.

SO IT IS HARD TO DETERMINE, HOW MUCH YARD DEBRIS AT ANY GIVEN TIME.

I THINK WE PROJECT THAT 22% OF THE RESIDENTS WILL HAVE YARD DEBRIS AT ANY GIVEN WEEK.

SO, I KNOW THIS IS PROBABLY THE CRUX OF THE PRESENTATION. WHEN WE BID, I THINK WE HAVE BEEN WITH THE CITY TEN YEARS. WE PUT IT UP TO BID. AT THAT TIME WHEN WE WERE STILL SERVICING IT, WE COULD STAGE THE YARD DEBRIS. WE COULD STAGE IT AT THE AIRPORT. THEN THE CITY, WOULD SPREAD IT AT THE AIRPORT AT A PREDETERMINED HEIGHT BECAUSE THERE WERE REGULATIONS. THE CITY WANTED TO GET OUT OF THAT BUSINESS. THAT'S OKAY. SO THE RP THAT WE BID ON ASKED FOR BAGS AND BUNDLES FOR YARD DEBRIS. SO LOOSE DEBRIS SUCH AS LEAVES, GRASS CLIPPINGS, WHATEVER YOU WANT TO CALL IT WOULD DO THAT. AND FOR BUNDLES YOU WOULD HAVE LIMBS SPECIFIED AS 4 FEET IN LENGTH WE STILL HAD TO TRANSPORT IT OFF OF THE ISLAND.

WHEN WE BID THE CONTRACT THAT IS WHAT WE BID ON. UNFORTUNATELY, I'M NOT GOD AND I'M NOT ON A MISSION SO I DON'T KNOW WHAT HAPPENED, IT JUST DIDN'T TAKE.

I DON'T THINK THAT IS WHAT THE RESIDENTS WANTED TO DO. BUT THERE WAS A SNIPPET IN THE CONTRACT YARD WASTE FROM PROPERTIES WOULD BE COLLECTED. NOT TO EXCEED 50 POUNDS AND WITH BRANCHES NOT TO EXCEED 4 FEET IN LENGTH. SO THAT IS WHAT WE WERE PREPARED TO DO. UNFORTUNATELY THAT IS NOT NECESSARILY WHAT TOOK PLACE WHICH IS FINE. THAT IS WHY I STARTED MY PRESENTATION WAS SAYING IT WAS A PARTNERSHIP. SO EVEN THOUGH THE CONTRACT SAYS THIS, WE KNOW ULTIMATELY THAT IS NOT NECESSARILY WHAT THE CITIZENS WANT TO DO. SO WE ALWAYS WENT BACK TO WHAT WE ALWAYS DID. THIS IS NOT EFFICIENT BECAUSE THE TURNAROUND TIME WAS LIKE TWO HOURS. WE HAVE TO TRANSPORT IT OFF OF THE ISLAND.

SO AT THE SAME TIME WE ARE DOING OUR BEST TO MEET THE DESIRE OF THE CITY.

WE CAME UP WITH SOLUTIONS. LET ME SAY THIS BEFORE I GO DOWN THE PATH.

AS I STARTED WITH THE ACQUISITION. TECHNICALLY WE WON'T BE AUTHORIZED TO DO ANYTHING AT THIS POINT IN TIME. MY GUESS IS IF THIS GOES THROUGH BY THE END OF SEPTEMBER, AT THE SAME TIME WE ARE APPROACHED BY CITY STAFF TO START THINKING ABOUT WHAT OUR POSSIBLE SOLUTIONS CAN BE IF WE DIDN'T BAG AND BUNDLE.

I PUT IT DOWN HERE. DO NOTHING AND KEEP THE STATUS QUO.

THAT IS NOT AN OPTION. AND WITH CONTRACT LANGUAGE, BAGS AND BUNDLES.

WE DON'T WANT TO DO THAT EITHER. IT IS OUR UNDERSTANDING THAT IS NOT WHAT THE RESIDENTS WANT TO DO. SO WE WILL DO OUR BEST TO CONTINUE TO PROVIDE YARD SERVICE TO RESIDENTS THAT THEY ARE ACCUSTOMED TO AND I CAN CONVINCE THEM THIS IS NOT THE ROUTE BECAUSE THEY CAN SO WE HAVE SOME OPTIONS. STAGE YARD WEIGHTS AT THE AIRPORT. SO LOOK THE AIRPORT. EQUIPPED OPTIONS ARE.

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AT THE TIME THAT NUMBER WAS HIGHER THAN WHAT WE WERE CURRENTLY CHARGING THE CITY.

AND PART OF OUR FEE WAS NEW CONTAINERS FOR GARBAGE AND RECYCLING AS WELL AS THE TRUCKS TO PICK THEM UP WITH THE ASO. IN GOOD FAITH, WE LOWERED OUR BID RATE.

WE LOWERED OUR BID RATE TO MAX THE CURRENT RATE WE WERE CHARGING THE CITY.

WE THOUGHT THAT WOULD BE THE BEST THING FOR THE CITIZENS AS WELL AS THAT WAVING CPI FOR THE FIRST YEAR. SO AGAIN, WE HAVE BEEN DOING EVERYTHING WE CAN, AND THE BEST INTERESTS OF THE CITY. FORGIVE ME FOR THAT. OBVIOUSLY, I PUT THAT RATE IN THERE TO SEE WHAT THE RATE WOULD BE IF WE HAD TO CHANGE THE WAY WE DO BUSINESS.

SO THAT IS ONE THING. SOME MAY SAY WHAT ABOUT THE ONE THAT TAKES IT INTO DO IT.

THAT IS BEEN DONE. I DON'T KNOW OF JEREMIAH'S HERE. HE IS IN THE BACK.

THAT WAS AN OPTION. SO THEY REFUSED TO TAKE IT TO A MILL THAT WOULD BURN IT.

UNFORTUNATELY BECAUSE A LOT OF IT IS LEAVES, I MAJORED IN FOOTBALL AT PENN STATE SO, I AM NOT AN EXPERT. BUT THE BTU WAS NOT THERE FOR THEM AND ON TOP OF THAT THE RESIDUE BURNS UP THE MACHINE. I DID NOT WANT TO PUT THAT DOWN FOR AN OPTION SO THEY COULD SAY THEY COULD DO IT AND THEN THEY SAY NO. THEN I THOUGHT, WHAT IF WE DON'T SHRED THE MATERIAL. WHAT IF WE JUST STAGE IT AT THE AIRPORT.

COME IN WITH LARGER TRUCKS AND TRANSPORTED WHICH BRINGS IT DOWN.

SO YOU WENT FROM A 7942535 INCREASE. FINALLY THE ROUTE IN WHICH JEFF OR GM, THINKS IT IS A OPTION IS ADDING THIS MACHINE THAT IS A LEAF SOCCER.

IT IS JUST ONE MAN A CHEMICAL -- A MECHANICAL ARM. SO I THINK THERE ARE FIVE ZONES WE DO FOR YARD DEBRIS. THIS WOULD COME IN IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE GRAPPLED TRUCK. IT GOES DOWN TO PICK STUFF UP. SO IF WE ADDED THE EXPENSE OF A LEAF SUCKER AS WELL AS DURING HEIGHTENED TIMES, WE ADD ANOTHER TRUCK SO YOU HAVE BELIEVED DRUG AND THEN A SECOND TRUCK. WE THINK WE CAN PROVIDE THE SERVICE TO RESIDENTS MUCH BETTER THAN WHAT WE ARE DOING NOW. THAT IS OBVIOUSLY AN INCREASE IN THE RATE.

>> Q&A. YOU HAD EVERYTHING. >> IT IS SO QUIET IN HERE.

>> I SEE ONLY ONE PERSON HAS THEIR LIGHT ON. YOU SAID IN YOUR PRESENTATION, AS A RESIDENT I CAN TELL YOU MY YARD WASTE WAS MISSED SEVERAL TIMES.

LAST WEEK THE TRUCKS PULLED TO THE HOUSE NEXT TO MINE AND THEN TOOK OFF.

I DID NOT SEE THAT TRUCK AGAIN UNTIL TUESDAY SO MIGHT YARD WASTE SITE OUT THERE.

I THINK IF YOU GO BACK THROUGH THE HISTORY OF THIS CONTRACT AND MAYBE JEREMIAH CAN CORRECT ME

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BUT, BUT DO YOU AGREE SOME YARD WASTE WAS NOT PICKED UP? >> KNOW WHERE MY PRESENTATION DID I SAY WE DIDN'T HAVE MS. PICK UP SPIRIT IF I WERE TO ADD UP THE SERVICES THAT WE

APPLIED. >> EXCUSE ME LET ME CORRECT -- IT WOULD BE LESS THAN 1%.

SO IF I TAKE A TEST AND I GET A 99, WEEK IN AND WEEK OUT AND YEAR IN YEAR OUT, I AM DOING PRETTY GOOD. ALL I SAID WAS, THE AREA WE HAVE THE ISSUE WITH IS YARD DEBRIS.

>> I UNDERSTAND THAT. >> KNOW WE DID NOT BID THE CONTRACT WRONG.

WE BID IT RIGHT BASED ON BAGS AND BUNDLES. HANDTOOLS DEFAULT WAS IT.

>> LET'S GO ON. LET THE GENTLEMAN ANSWER AND THEN WE WILL ASK QUESTIONS.

>> SO MY POINT WAS, WE BID THE CONTRACT BASED ON -- AND I CAN PROVIDE THAT FOR YOU, BAGS AND BUNDLES. IF WE HAVE BAGS AND BUNDLES AT THE CURBSIDE WE ARE EFFICIENT AND WE CAN DO A BETTER JOB. UNFORTUNATELY THAT IS NOT WHAT HAS TRANSPIRED.

>> AND WHOSE SPOT IS THAT? >> I'M NOT GOING TO CAST BLAME ON ANYONE.

IT IS NOT WHAT THE RESIDENTS WANTED. THEY WANTED WHAT THEY HAD ALWAYS GONE WHICH WAS STAGING THE YARD DEBRIS -- YARD DEBRIS ON THE ISLAND -- AIRPORT WHICH MADE

TURNAROUND TIMES MORE EFFICIENT. >> HOW DID YOU GET THE INFORMATION, THAT THE RESIDENTS

DID NOT WANT THE BACK AND BUNDLE? >> THE CITY MADE IT PRETTY CLEAR

TO US. >> BUT HOW? DID YOU TAKE A SURVEY OF THE CITIZENS. BECAUSE I AM SURE A LOT OF THEM WOULD RATHER BACK AND BUNDLE

THEN HAVE IT SIT THERE FOR THREE WEEKS BIG. >> MR. CHAIR ALL OF THE EVIDENCE

WE HAVE SAID THEY DON'T WANT BACK AND BUNDLE. >> PROVE IT.

SHOW ME STATISTICS. IT IS EASY TO STAND THERE AND MAKE A STATEMENT.

>> THEN MAYBE WE SHOULD, GET WITH THE CITY AND TRY TO FIGURE OUT A WAY TO DO THAT.

>> IT IS MY UNDERSTANDING -- >> THE CITY CLERK. THE CITY CLERK COULD DO THAT.

IT HAS TO BE TRANSPOSED. >> THE GENERAL MANAGER. >> IT IS MY UNDERSTANDING AND THEY HAVE DONE IT IN THE PAST AND IT IS IN THE WORKS. TO DO A SURVEY WITH THE RESIDENTS TO SEE, WHERE THEY ARE ON THE SERVICES WE ARE PROVIDING.

IT MAY COME BACK THAT YARD AND DEBRIS IS AN ISSUE BECAUSE WHAT WE DISCUSSED.

>> IT IS MY UNDERSTANDING THAT, TO US ISSUED THE CITY USES ITS DRUGS.

>> I THINK THERE MAY HAVE BEEN TIMES WHERE THE CITY DID ASSIST US.

WILL THEY REIMBURSE THE CITY FOR THAT? >> I WOULD HAVE TO TAKE THAT UNDER ADVISEMENT. WE ARE IN A SITUATION WHERE WE ARE PROVIDING A SERVICE THAT WE ARE NOT CONTRACTUALLY OBLIGATED TO PAY FOR AND THAT IS WHAT WE'RE DOING THE BEST WE CAN.

WE CAME TO PROVIDE SOLUTIONS BUT THERE WILL BE A COST ASSOCIATED WITH IT.

>> I MEAN,, I AM INCREDIBLY FRUSTRATED AS I KNOW MANY RESIDENTS ARE.

THERE YARD DEBRIS SITS AND SITS. WHEN I HAVE A MAN ON THE GRAPPLED TRUCK, TELL ME THAT I SHOULD MOVE MY PILE OF YARD WASTE THAT HAS BEEN THERE SINCE I BOUGHT THE HOUSE IN THE SAME SPOT BECAUSE HE DOESN'T KNOW HOW TO USE IT HE IS AFRAID HE WILL HIT THE OVERHEAD WIRES PURE COMPETITION WITH THAT. YOU KNOW. PERHAPS,.

>> MR. CHAIRMAN, IF I MIGHT, I UNDERSTAND YOUR FRUSTRATION. LIKE GO THROUGH THIS EVERY DAY.

THERE IS NOTHING CLOSE IN MY DAY TO DAY OPERATIONS THAN YARD WASTE AS FAR AS BEING THE MOST DIFFICULT THING WE DEAL WITH. YOU ARE NOT THE ONLY MUNICIPALITY WE DEAL WITH.

WE HAVE THE SAME ISSUES THAN OTHERS. WE HAVE A LOT OF SHORTAGES OF

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WE STILL ARE. IT IS A NATIONAL EMERGENCY. WHEN WE HAVE EIGHT EMPLOYEES THAT WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH PEOPLE FOR THE JOB. THE FRUSTRATION WITH THE INDIVIDUAL DRIVER, WE HAVE HAD TO FIRE ONE AND LET TWO GUYS GO, I DON'T WANT TO GET INTO DETAILS BUT THE BOTTOM LINE IS WE HAVE HAD SOME DIFFICULT TIMES. WE ARE FRUSTRATED TOO.

I'M FRUSTRATED EVERY DAY. IT IS THE MOST DIFFICULT PART OF MY JOB.

BUT WE ARE MAKING EVERY EFFORT WE CAN AND THERE HAVE BEEN SOME EXTENUATING CIRCUMSTANCES HERE.

>> I CAN TELL YOU SIR, THAT MY YARD WASTE, LONG BEFORE THE PANDEMIC WAS MISSED GETTING

PICKED UP. >> AND I BELIEVE THAT AND I AGREE AND WE HAD A PLAN GOING INTO THE YEAR. WE HAD TRUCKS AND WE HAD PEOPLE AND THEN EVERYTHING SHUT DOWN.

SO I AGREE WITH YOU. WE DO HAVE TO GET BETTER. WE WILL.

WE HAVE MAYBE -- MAYBE HAVE TO CHANGE SOME THINGS PICK. >> MY LAST COMMENT.

MY FOOTBALL COACH TOLD US REPEATEDLY, THERE IS NO EXCUSE FOR AN EXCUSE.

>> BEFORE WE CALL ANYMORE COMMISSIONERS CAN WE GET SOMEONE TO EXPLAIN THE BUNDLING AND THE BACKING. IT SEEMS TO BE A CONTINUING ISSUE.

CAN ONE OF YOU COME UP AND SPEAK TO THE CONTRACT NEGOTIATION. >> MY UNDERSTANDING IS WHEN WE NEGOTIATED CONTRACTS WE ALL AGREED THAT THE LEAVES WOULD BE PUT IN BAGS AT A CERTAIN SIZE AND A CERTAIN WAY. THAT IS HOW WE ARE MOVING FORWARD.

DID YOU GET COMPLAINTS THAT THEY DID NOT WANT TO BE LIKE THAT WHY ARE PEOPLE NOT DOING THAT.

BECAUSE IF THEY DID IT WOULDN'T BE EASIER. >> I AGREED THAT, YES, BAGGING AND BUNDLING AS SPECIFIED IN THE CONTRACT WOULD MAKE THINGS MORE EFFICIENT.

BUT AS WE WORK THROUGH THE ACTUAL NEGOTIATION, ONCE THE CONTRACT WAS AWARDED AND WE STARTED NEGOTIATING THE DETAILS THAT LANGUAGE WAS IN THERE BUT IT BECAME EVIDENT THROUGH THE DISCUSSIONS WITH THE CITY COMMISSION I THINK IT PREDATES YOU THAT, THAT WAS NOT GOING TO BE STRONGLY SUPPORTED BY THE COMMUNITY. SO EVEN THOUGH THE LANGUAGE WAS IN THERE, AND WE CHECKED SOME E-MAILS AND IT SAYS ADVANCE DISPOSAL, EVEN THOUGH IT IS IN THE CONTRACT, THAT RESIDENTS WOULD BE ENCOURAGED TO BACK AND BUNDLE BUT THEY WON'T REQUIRE

IT. >> THANK YOU. >> I AM MORE CONCERNED WITH WHERE THIS WILL GO. WE WERE THERE WHEN THIS HAPPENED.

SO I AM MORE CONCERNED, FOR YOU AND THE STAFF AS WE MOVE FORWARD WITH THE PLAN WOULD BE.

YOU ARE SAYING UNTIL WASTE MANAGEMENT COMES. THEN WHAT HAPPENS.

THEN YOU WILL COME UP WITH THESE RECOMMENDATIONS. >> WE DID NOT WANT TO HAVE, THE PERCEPTION THAT WE WERE NOT THINKING ABOUT IT OR NOT DO ANYTHING.

WE MET WITH CITY STAFF AND SAID LET'S COME UP WITH SOME SOLUTIONS THAT WE CAN PROVIDE THAT WOULD IMPROVE OUR ABILITY TO PICK UP YARD WASTE BASED ON THE WAY THE CITIZENS WANT WITH THE UNDERSTANDING, WE OUR HANDS ARE TIED, THERE'S NO ABILITY TO SPEND CAPITAL OR ANYTHING AT THIS TIME UNTIL THE DEALS ARE ON YOUR SIDE. SO MY GOAL IS TO DO THIS AND PRESENT TO WASTE MANAGEMENT WHAT WE DISCUSSED AND HOPEFULLY THEY RELY ON ME AND MY LOCAL INTEL TO SAY THIS IS WHAT WE NEED TO DO. AND CITY STAFF WE WILL SEND OUT THIS QUESTIONNAIRE AND WHETHER IT SAYS IT HAS TO DO WITH BAGS WERE BUNDLE THEN THAT WILL BE OUR RECOMMENDATION TO THEM.

WHEN WE DO THAT, WE INTEND TO GET IT OUT THIS WEEK OKAY. THANK YOU.

SO I DROVE AROUND ONE DAY I THINK THIS WAS TWO OR THREE HOURS AGO.

I SOLVE THE CHALLENGES AND, I WOULD BE CURIOUS TO SEE WHAT THE SURVEY SHOWS BUT WITH MY NEIGHBORHOOD AND MANY OF THE PEOPLE HAVE SPOKEN TO ARE ADAMANT THAT THEY WANT THE

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>> I THINK THAT IS A GOOD PLAN BECAUSE, THE HEAVY SEASON IS IN THE SPRINGTIME.

WE HAVE A LITTLE TIME. WE HAVE TO GET TO THE BOTTOM OF WHAT WE WILL DO.

SOMETHING ELSE I WANTED TO ADDRESS. WHEN WE DROVE AROUND AND I'M HERE TWICE A WEEK DRIVING AROUND. IT IS INCREDIBLY DIFFICULT.

YOU CAN FIGURE THIS OUT IN YOUR YARD AND WHAT YOU ARE PICKING UP AND YOU'RE CUTTING DOWN BRANCHES OFF OF THE TREES AND EVERYTHING ELSE. IT IS DIFFICULT TO BUNDLE THEM.

LEAVES YOU CAN RAKE HIM UP BUT, IT IS DIFFICULT SO THIS IS WHAT WE HAVE HEARD FROM SOME RESIDENTS. THEY DON'T WANT TO DO THE BACK AND BUNDLE.

THAT'S UP TO YOU. BUT WE HAVE A LITTLE TIME. AND THEN SOMETHING WILL HAPPEN

TO BE READY FOR MARCH OR APRIL OF NEXT YEAR. >> THE OTHER CHALLENGE THEY HAVE , NOT ONLY ON THAT DAY, IS THAT UNFORTUNATELY SOME PEOPLE THEY ARE BRINGING OTHER THINGS

INTO THE PILES SO THAT COMPLICATES THE PROBLEM. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

I LOOK FORWARD TO WORKING WITH YOU AGAIN. I APPRECIATE THAT.

>> ALL RIGHT, WE ARE NOW IN CITY COMMISSION FIVE. THIS IS LAND CONSERVATION THIS

[5.1 LAND CONSERVATION ]

>> ALL OF US RECEIVED ON JULY 31, THE LETTER FROM THE SAINT MARY RIVER KEEPER.

I WOULD LIKE TO DISCUSS AND THE NOTICE, WE DISCUSSED THIS LAST YEAR.

BUT THE LETTER WAS WATER TESTING OVER THE LAST TWO YEARS INDICATING THIS IS POLLUTED WITH DANGEROUS LEVELS OF E. COLI ALONG WITH OTHER POLLUTANTS. WE HAVE WORKED TO CONDUCT SECOND TIER TESTING WHICH LINKED THE POLLUTANT TO HUMAN SOURCES. WE SENT THE REPORTS TO THE CITY IN 2019 LOOT TESTING IS CONSISTENT WITH THE WATER POLLUTION PROBLEM IN CITY LIMITS. WE ARE CONFIDENT THAT FAILING SEPTIC SYSTEMS WHICH ARE CLOSE ARE THE SOURCE OF THIS SOLUTION. I WILL SKIP A FEW PARAGRAPHS. THE OUTFALL OF THE SYSTEM, IMPACTS THE WATERS OF THE AMELIA RIVER AND ST. MARY'S RIVER AND IT IS ASSOCIATED WITH WILDLIFE AND FISH. SUBSEQUENT TO, THE RIVER KEEPERS LETTER TO US, WE THEN RECEIVED AN E-MAIL FROM DAVID STURGIS AND HE IS SITTING RIGHT THERE. AND THIS PIQUED MY INTEREST BECAUSE OF THE FOLLOWING. AND HE WROTE, AND I'M NOT GOING TO READ THE ENTIRE E-MAIL.

UNDERSTAND THE CITY IS WAITING TO DESIGNATE THE AREA AS IMPAIRED BEFORE THE CITY CAN RECEIVE GRANT MONEY TO MAKE THE NECESSARY REPAIRS TO ACCOMMODATE THE EFFICIENCY.

IT SHOWS THAT THE WASTE IS OF HUMAN ORIGIN AND MORE THAN LIKELY COMING FROM FAILING SEPTIC SYSTEMS ADJACENT TO THE AREA. I KNOW THE AREA AND I BELIEVE THE CITY SHOULD IDENTIFY THE KEY SEPTIC SYMPTOMS AND WAIVE THE IMPACT FEES AND REQUIRE QUALIFIED PLUMBING CONTRACTORS TO CONNECT THE HOMES TO THE EXISTING SYSTEMS. THIS WOULD HALT THE CONTAMINATION. I KNOW IT SOUNDS TOO EASY BUT I

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THE ANONYMOUS DONORS. >> BEFORE WE GET TOO DEEP INTO THIS BECAUSE I THINK THIS IS A TOPIC THAT NEEDS A LOT OF INPUT FROM THE COMMUNITY, AND THE SOURCE, THESE COME UP ABOUT WATER QUALITY I WOULD RECOMMEND, I WAS WAITING FOR YOU TO GET AROUND TO THE LAND CONSERVATION BUT I HAD HEARD IT YET, THIS IS A DISCUSSION THAT WE ARE NOT PREPARED TO HAVE ON WATER QUALITY. SO IF YOU WANT TO MAKE THAT IN THE AGENDA I WOULD RECOMMEND

THAT PICK. >> THAT WOULD BE TERRIFIC. >> THANK YOU COMMISSIONER RUSS

PICK. >> THAT'S FINE. >> HERE'S MY COMMENT.

INSTEAD OF DOING THAT, THE CITY OF FERNANDINA BEACH DOES NOT HAVE JURISDICTION OVER THIS.

TO MAKE A LONG STORY SHORT. I SPENT A LOT OF TIME ON THIS AND I WOULD MAKE THE FOLLOWING

RECOMMENDATION. >> ONCE AGAIN, WE ARE REALLY GETTING DEEP ON THIS AND I KNOW

IT WILL HAPPEN, THE BOARD WILL START LIGHTING UP AGAIN. >> THAT'S FINE.

>> OKAY. >> THANK YOU MR. MAYOR. >> 5.2.

WATERFRONT DEVELOPMENT. THIS ITEM IS PLACED ON THE AGENDA AT THE REQUEST OF

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COMMISSIONER LEDNOVICH. >> 5.3. BEACHES THIS ITEM IS PLACED ON

THE AGENDA AT THE REQUEST OF VICE MAYOR KREGER. >> I HAVE A FEW ITEMS. MOSTLY DEALING WITH GRANTS. I WON'T GET INTO GRANTS TOO MUCH BECAUSE WE WILL TALK ABOUT THAT LATER. BUT THE -- IS OPEN. IT IS OPEN UNTIL 9:25 P.M.

THE GRANT WE HAVE BEEN SUCCESSFUL TWICE AND GETTING. I HAVE SENT YOU ALL THE CRITERIA THAT IS UP TO $60,000. SOME OF THE MATCHES, WE COULD DO DEPENDING ON THE PROJECT WITH IMPACT FUNDS. OTHERWISE, THIS WAS -- SO I WILL BRING IT BACK UP HOPEFULLY WITH SOME RECOMMENDATIONS BY THE NEXT MEETING SO WE CAN MOVE FORWARD AND MAKE THE DEADLINE.

THE FUNDING, WE HAVE A LETTER THAT IS ASKING FOR $200,000. FOR THE WALKOVER.

AFTER TDC, I GUESS IT WAS LAST WEEK, CHIP WAS THERE AND MIKE WAS THERE.

THIS GOES BACK TO PRE-COVID-19 THEY WERE SUPPOSED TO LOOK AT THAT ISSUE.

THEY DID LOOK AT IT AND INTERESTING ENOUGH THEY HAD A NEW CHAPTER IN A CENTER TO THE THE COMMISSIONERS AND COMMISSIONER RUSS PUT IT IN THE PACKET.

SO SEASIDE PARK, IS 70% TOURISM. THERE'S ALWAYS BEEN AN ISSUE OF WHAT THE TDC IS WILLING TO PAY FOR AND WHAT THEY ARE NOT. SO I TALKED TO THE CITY MANAGER AND SUGGEST THAT WE WATCH, THE SEASIDE WILL COME IN AT WAY MORE THAN $200,000. TO MONITOR AND SEE WHAT IS THERE

AND RESUBMIT IT WHEN WE GET -- >> ANOTHER INTERESTING THING THEY BROUGHT OUT, YOU GUYS CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG. THEY TALKED ABOUT A BUNCH OF MONEY THEY HAD IN RESERVES FOR WHEN THE COUNTY IMPLEMENTS THEIR TOTAL BEACH PLAN. THEY DIDN'T SAY ANYTHING AT THE MEETING BUT I CALLED THEM UP THE DAY AFTER AND SAID WHAT IS IT ALL ABOUT BECAUSE MOST OF THE IMPLEMENTATION WE ALREADY DO. THEY TALKED ABOUT EDUCATIONAL THINGS AND THEY WERE VAGUE BUT IT IS SOMETHING WE HAVE TO WATCH CLOTHES TO MAKE SURE WE IN FACT, ARE ON TOP OF REQUESTING THAT MONEY. THE CHARTER, ALLOWS MANY DIFFERENT THINGS THAT WE CAN DO.

SO, THE NEXT ITEM I HAVE IS THE BEACH MANAGEMENT FUNDING. YOU HAVE SEEN E-MAILS THAT WERE SENT OUT. THAT IS A SHARE OF THE REAL NOURISHMENT AND IT PAYS 90% OF THE NOURISHMENT ALTHOUGH THIS YEAR'S PROJECT WILL BE NAVY ONLY AND IT WILL PROBABLY BE LATE.

IT IS CRITICAL WE PUT IN THE SHARON WE HAVE RECOMMENDATIONS FROM OUR CONSULTANT THAT WE NEED TO DO THAT. AS AN EXAMPLE, THE 9%, THE 2008 PROJECT, FULL PROJECT COST

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A FULL ONE FOR YOUR PROTECTION WILL PROBABLY UP TO $60 MILLION. THE 9% CONSTITUTES OVER $4 MILLION. SO IT IS CRITICAL. THE CRITERIA HAS CHANGED AND I HAVE BROUGHT THIS UP PREVIOUSLY THAT WE MOVE FORWARD WITH THAT. THAT IS PRETTY MUCH THE BIG

STUFF. >> I HAVE TWO ISSUES. WILL THAT BE OKAY.

>> YES. >> THE PERSON HAS TO DO WITH THE MST YOU.

THAT IS, THE NASSAU COMMISSIONERS AND IN 2015 IT WAS MOSTLY APPROVED ORDINANCES THAT CREATED SPECIAL TAXING DISTRICT TO PAY FOR THIS PERIODIC -- THAT IS THE SYNTAX.

AND IT COVERS BEACH EFFORTS FOR CLAIMS DOWN TO THE SOUTHERN PART OF THE ISLAND WHERE THEY HAVE THEIR OWN FUNDING. NONE OF THE REST OF THE COUNTY, PAYS INTO THE MSTU FOR THE BEACHES PICK UP THE 13,000 PARCELS COVERED BY THE TAX, 62% DURING THE CITY AND ONCE AGAIN THE CITY TAXPAYERS ARE PAYING MORE THAN THEIR FAIR SHARE IN SUBSIDIZING NON- CITY RESIDENTS.

THERE'S A LOT OF CITY RESIDENTS WHO DO NOT LIVE THERE BUT THEY ARE PAYING THE SYNTAX AND A LOT OF COUNTY RESIDENTS WHO DON'T USE THE BEACH -- WHO DO USE THE BEACH BUT DON'T PAY THE SAME TAXPAYER SO I WOULD LIKE IF THE COMMISSIONERS WOULD CONSIDER DIRECTING THE CITY MANAGER TO SEND A LETTER TO THE COUNTY MANAGER TO ASK THE COMMISSIONERS TO INCREASE INCREASING THE SCOPE OF THE SAND TAX TO COVER THE ENTIRE UNINCORPORATED COUNTY AND DECREASE THE MILLAGE RATE BY SPRAYING THE BURDEN OVER THE COUNTY WHICH WOULD BENEFIT OUR TAXPAYERS.

>> VICE MAYOR KREGER? >> THE F THE MTU IS PAID BY EVERYONE.

BASICALLY, ALL OF THE REAL NOURISHMENT IS FROM -- I ACTUALLY SUPPORT GOING OUT AND

ASKING THAT THEY PAY. >> I SEE NO PROBLEM WITH THAT. >> I BELIEVE WE ALL GOT AN E-MAIL FROM ALISHA B WAS THE PARK AND RECREATION MANAGER IT SAID WE RECEIVED A CALL FROM JERRY, THE RESIDENT CALLED TO INFORM US HE INTENDED TO REMOVE -- CONCERNING THE INSTALLATION OF A SAND FENCING. THE RESIDENT CALLED TO INFORM US HE PLANS TO REMOVE THEM WITH PERMISSION OF THE CITY COMMISSIONER. THE RESIDENT BELIEVES THE FOOTPATH IS ON HIS PROPERTY AND THE FENCING IS AN INCONVENIENCE TO HIM BECAUSE HE CANNOT LIFT HIS KAYAK OVER THE BOARDWALK STAIRS. I BELIEVE THESE SAND FENCES WERE INSTALLED TODAY. THE RESIDENT DID NOT GIVE US THE NAME OF THE COMMISSIONER WHO GAVE HIM PERMISSION TO REMOVE THE FENCING. MR. MARTIN ASKED YOU TO PLEASE

LOOK INTO THIS TO SEE IF INDEED. >> YOU ARE NOT RECOGNIZE SIR. >> 'S OR YOU NOT RECOGNIZE.

>> THANK YOU. >> I WAS GOING TO ASK BECAUSE I REQUESTED HIM TO LOOK INTO THIS, AND FIND OUT FIRST OF ALL IF IT WAS TRUE AND IF NOT, SOMEONE IS MAKING UNTRUE STATEMENTS FROM ALL OF US AND THAT BOTHERS ME SIR YOU ARE NOT RECOGNIZE, I DO THIS IS NOT AN ITEM WE TAKE REQUESTS ON BUT I WILL RECOGNIZE YOU ON THE NEXT SESSION. GO AHEAD SIR.

>> YES, I RECEIVED A COPY OF THE SAME E-MAIL TO THE BEST OF MY KNOWLEDGE.

NOT A SINGLE ONE OF YOU PROVIDED THAT DIRECTION. TO A RESIDENT.

I'M NOT SURE HOW THAT WAS INITIATED, BUT JUST FOR THE RESPONSE WASN'T DISCUSSIONS TO THE LAST TWO MEETINGS ABOUT THE CONCERNS THAT PEOPLE WERE WALKING A ROUND WALKOVER AND

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SO STAFF INSTALLED BUS TO SAN FRANCISCO IN ALL HONESTY, KNOWING FULL WELL, THAT IT WOULD CAUSE DISRUPTION TO THAT NEIGHBORHOOD. SO IT WAS INSTALLED FOLLOWING DISCUSSIONS OF THE MEETING AND WE ARE BACK WHERE WE WERE BEFORE AND WHAT STAFF NEEDS HIS DIRECTION. I THINK THE COMMUNITY NEEDS DIRECTION ON WHAT WE WANT TO DO WITH THAT SPECIFIC WALK AROUND. I THINK THE LONG-TERM SOLUTION WOULD BE TO INSTALL RAMPS AT THE LOCATIONS, NOT EVERY SINGLE ONE, BECAUSE SHE HAS PEOPLE MAY HAVE TO WALK A BLOCK OR TWO IN ONE DIRECTION BUT THE SENSE OF ENTITLEMENT IS I ALWAYS CROSS THERE AND I WILL NOT BE STOPPED.

YOUR GOAL AS STATED IS THE PROTECTION OF THE DUNE. IF WE CAN PROVIDE WALKOVER'S AND MINIMIZE THE WALK-THROUGHS. I THINK THAT IS THE GENERAL DIRECTION THAT YOU HAVE ESTABLISHED. SO STAFF JUST NEEDS DIRECTION ON HOW YOU WANT TO PROCEED IN THIS

GENERAL SITUATION. >> THANK YOU SIR. >> PROTECTING THE DUNES.

WHILE ACCOMMODATING BEACH ACCESS FOR PEOPLE. LIKE PEOPLE OF KAYAKS AND FISHING GEAR. THEY ARE NOT EXCLUSIVE AND THEY CAN BE DONE.

CURRENTLY THE BIGGEST VULNERABILITY IS THE ACCESS IN THE EMERGENCY ACCESS.

THE WALK AROUND, THAT GO AROUND THE BEACH ACCESS AT 5-7 WHERE THE RECENT FENCE WAS PLACED AND REMOVED, THEY HAD A PROBLEM BUT BLOCKING THAT ACCESS WILL NOT SAVE THE DAY IN THE EVENT OF A STORM. THE WALKOVER'S HAVE BEEN THERE FOR GREATER THAN TEN YEARS.

IF YOU GO BACK TO THE BEACH YOU CAN SEE PICTURES AND PHOTOGRAPHS, THEY HAVE BEEN THERE. I BELIEVE UNTIL THE CITY COMES UP WITH A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN TO ADDRESS FLOODING VULNERABILITY AND ADEQUATE ACCESS TO THE BEACH, THAT THE ACCESS, I THINK WE SHOULD LEAVE THINGS AS THEY ARE. I ACTUALLY WANTED TO BACK UP TO THE SYNTAX BUT SINCE WE ARE RIGHT HERE LET'S CONTINUE ON THAT.

YOU DIDN'T MENTION THAT IN YOUR RECOMMENDATION. I'M JUST WONDERING, I'M WONDERING, I WILL ADDRESS YOU. I'M WONDERING THE THOUGHTS ARE FROM FELLOW COMMISSIONERS, IF THE PRIMARY PURPOSE IS TO PROTECT THE DUNE, AND PEOPLE KEEP TEARING DOWN THE CITIES EFFORTS TO PROTECT THE DOOMED SPIRIT IT SEEMS TO ME LOGIC DICTATES YOU PUT SOMETHING MORE PERMANENT AND HEAVIER AND AN OBSTRUCTION THAT IS NOT EASY TO REMOVE.

DO NOTHING AND LEAVE A BYPASS THERE OR GET A BULGE OR COMPO SOMETHING HEAVY AND LARGE PUT IT IN THE PATHWAY AND THAT MAKES IT MORE DIFFICULT TO REMOVE AND IT PROTECTS THE DUNES.

>> VICE MAYOR KREGER. >> I THINK IT IS MORE THE SAME WAY.

I THINK, WE NEED TO DEVELOP A PLAN TO DEAL WITH THAT AND I THINK IT CAN INCLUDE CERTAIN RAMPS. AND A GOOD SOLUTION IS THESE ARE BOTH WALK-THROUGHS NOW, AND BECAUSE OF THE INITIATIVE IT WOULD ALLOW US TO HAVE BEEN BUILT AFTER TURTLE SEASON.

THIS WILL ALLOW US TO HAVE A RAMP AND THAT WOULD BE GREAT. IN THE MEANTIME ERIC LEAVITT B.

WHAT WILL HAPPEN IS WHAT HAPPENED. PEOPLE WILL RIP THE FENCE OUT.

AND SECONDLY, THEY WILL WALKOVER THE DUNES ANYWAY. SO I THINK IT IS A VIABLE

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WE GO UP THERE. SO, NINE AND TEN ARE THE SAME WAY.

SIXTEEN IS NOT. SIXTEEN HASN'T HAPPENED THAT WAY.

THEY WALK OVER RIGHT BEFORE 12. I THINK, LET'S DEVELOP A GOOD PLAN AND MOVE FORWARD.

AT THIS POINT. >> ANYONE ELSE? >> GO AHEAD.

>> MERE. >> WHAT I AM HERE IT IS, GOING BACK TO THE DISCUSSIONWE DECIDEK ACROSS. BUT IT IS WHERE IT SAYS APPEARED AND SOME PLACES WE ARE ENCOURAGING PEOPLE NOT TO DO IT. ARE WE SAYING NOW THAT WE PUT UP THE BARRICADE AND WE LET SOMEONE DESTROY PROPERTY AND WE WILL SAY -- WE ALLOW THEM TO BREAK THE LAW, IS THAT WHAT YOU WANT TO DO QUICKSAND I THINK WE ARE SAYING AT THIS POINT BECAUSE IT IS A CUSTOMARY USAGE, I'M OUT THERE EVERY DAY. I WAS THERE 7:00 A.M. I KNOW WHAT IS GOING ON THERE.

WE DEVELOP A PLAN AND IN THE INTERIM, THIS IS JUST LIKE BAGGING TRASHING TERMS OF THAT PRINCIPLE WHAT HAPPENED. WE DEVELOP A PLAN, WE LOOK TO DO IT AND AS WE DO IT, WE GET VIABLE PLANS. IT USED TO BE WHERE THEY WALK THROUGH EVERYWHERE.

I MEAN,, THEY WALKED OVER SO WE OVER SO WE ARE MAKING PROGRESS. I AGREE WITH YOU, THAT IT BECOMES A PROBLEM. I WAS DISAPPOINTED WHEN THE FENCE GOT RIPPED OUT.

I THINK THAT SINCE THE WRONG MESSAGE. BUT I THINK AT THIS POINT, WE DEVELOP A PLAN, IT INCLUDES RAMPS. WHEN THAT HAPPENS, WHEN WE DO THAT AND IT WON'T HAVE A WALK AROUND AND EVERY ACCESS, THEN WE MAKE IT WORK.

>> OKAY. >> ONE OF THE THINGS I GET CONFUSED ABOUT IS, THE PEOPLE IN THE CITY IF WE WANT TO PUT OUR ENERGY INTO SAVING TREES BUT NOT THE WILDLIFE IN THE DUNES AND THE VEGETATION, I DON'T GET IT. I WILL SAY THIS ONE MORE TIME AND THEN I'M GOING TO CALL RECESS. I WON'T CONTINUE TO DO THIS. YOU HAVE TO ASK QUESTIONS WHEN I

CALLING YOU. >> IT IS OKAY FOR A RESIDENT TO DESTROY THE CITY PROPERTY EVEN IF IT IS ONLY A SMALL SAND FRIENDS IT SENDS THE WRONG MESSAGE.

I DON'T CARE HOW BIG OR SMALL THE RISK IS FOR A BREACH THEY ARE IMPORTANT.

AND I THINK WE NEED TO TAKE STEPS TO DO IT. AND REALISTICALLY, MOST PEOPLE CAN WALK A BLOCK OR TWO TO WALK THEIR KAYAK. I THINK AS THE COMMISSIONER SAID, WALK OUT OF THE FRONT DOOR AND WALK OVER THE DUNE. TIMES ARE CHANGING.

YOU MAY HAVE TO PUT MORE EFFORT INTO GETTING TO THE WATER BUT THE DUNES ARE IMPORTANT AND WE

NEED TO PROTECT THEM. >> THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU MR. MAYOR.

>> SO TWO POINTS. THE FIRST.BEING, I HEAR A PLAN AND AGREE WITH PLAN SPIRIT AND WE TALKED ABOUT A PLAN. MAYBE THREE COMMISSION MEETINGS AGO.

WE TALKED ABOUT THIS VERY ISSUE. WE TALKED ABOUT A RAMP. ANYTIME YOU HAVE A PLAN, WHAT IS THE DEADLINE. SET A DEADLINE. B.

WHAT WILL A RAMP CALL SPIRIT AND ALL OF US KNOW, TOMORROW NIGHT WE HAVE A BUDGET WORKSHOP.

ALL OF US KNOW WE ARE FIGHTING FOR EVERY PENNY. THE CITY MANAGER IS LOOKING AT EVERY PENNY WE ARE SPENDING. SO MY SECOND.BEING, WHERE WILL WE GET THE MONEY TO BUILD THE RAMP HERE. THE OTHER POINT I WANT TO MAKE IS, TO COMMISSIONER CHAPMAN'S POINT AND MAYOR MILLER'S.THIS IS CITIES PROPERTY. IF THE PRIMARY OBJECTIVE IS TO

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AS I SAID, DOING NOTHING IS NOT AN OPTION FOR DOING NOTHING DOES NOT PROTECT THE DUNE.

>> THANK YOU. >> MAYOR KREGER. >> I CAN HAVE THE MONEY AND THE

INITIATIVE ASSUMING WE GET IT. WITH THE NEW INFRASTRUCTURE. >> SO THAT IS WHAT WE CAN DO.

BOTH OF THOSE ARE 100-105 AT THE ROAD AND THEY ARE LEVEL AT THE ROAD NOW.

OUR REAL GOAL, THE GOAL IS TO ELIMINATE THE CAP SPIRIT AND SEVEN IS THE WALKOVER BECAUSE, THE WALKOVER JUST GOES UP AND OVER IN THE GAP IS THERE ANYWAY. THAT IS THE SAME WITH 9-10.

I CAN HAVE THE PLAN AND MONEY AND IT WILL COST THE CITY ANYTHING BY THE NEXT MEETING.

THE SECOND QUESTION IS, IT BECOMES THE GOAL AND IN THE INTERIM, WE CAN LOOK AT THE FIVE-YEAR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN AND PUT IT IN THERE. THERE ARE OTHER ISSUES TOO ABOUT WHAT WE CAN DO AND HOW SPIRIT BUT THAT WILL BE ADDRESSED LATER BY THE CITY MANAGER.

SO I WILL GET YOUR PLAN BY THE NEXT MEETING. >> IS A DUAL RESPONSIBILITY.

A PRIMARY RESPONSIBILITY. ONE IS TO PROTECT. THIS IS ALL ABOUT FLOOD PROTECTION. WHEN YOU SAY PROTECT THE DUNES. BUT THE SECOND PART OF THAT IS, IS EQUAL ACCESS AND SENSIBILITY TO THE BEACH. THAT IS WHAT MAKES THIS A SPECIAL COMMUNITY. WE HAVE A LARGE BEACH. SO I THINK IT IS A DUAL ACCESS NOT JUST ONE OR THE OTHER. I THINK THEY CAN WORK TOGETHER. I THINK A PLAN FOR ONE OF THESE, FROM THE OCEAN AVENUE FROM THE ANALYSIS I'VE SEEN DOWN IS THAT THEIR PROBLEM IS -- BECAUSE THIS IS WHERE THE WATER WILL COME THROUGH. YOU CAN PLUG THE SAND BETWEEN THESE TWO WALKOVER'S WHERE THEY GO OVER BUT THE WATER WILL COME THROUGH OTHER THINGS.

SO, AS YOU KNOW, WE ARE NOW BACK TO THE ADJUSTED ROLLBACK RATE AND ALL OF THESE BEACH WALKOVER'S AND THESE THINGS WILL NOT GET FUNDED. LET'S BE REALISTIC.

SO PUTTING A RAMP IN WON'T HELP. THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS THAT CAN BE DONE THAT ARE NOT EXPENSIVE.

BECAUSE THIS WILL PROTECT THE WATER PROTECTION AND IT IS NOT BACKED BY THE ROAD.

IN FACT, WHEN WE PUT AND THE AXIS IS WE DEMOLISH THEM AND IT CAUSES PROBLEMS. SO I THINK, THERE HAVE BEEN PLANS PRODUCED AND THEY HAVE TO CONCENTRATE.

I DON'T THINK IT IS A SIMPLE SOLUTION. IT WON'T HAPPEN IN 2-4 WEEKS.

AND I THINK AT PRESENT WE SHOULD LEAVE THINGS AS THEY ARE AND START WORKING ON A WAY OF COMING UP WITH A REASONABLE PLAN THAT PROTECTS THE POOR DUNES AND GIVE FLOOD PROTECTION TO THE ENTIRE

AREA. >> VICE MAYOR? >> I JUST WANT TO POINT OUT.

WE HAVE TO PUT SOMETHING IN THAT MAY BE EXTENDED. AND WE WILL TALK MORE ABOUT DOING WALKOVER'S AND WALK-THROUGHS. I'M NOT SAYING IT WILL BE BUILT NEXT WEEK I'M SAYING WE CAN HAVE THE NUMBERS AND A BASIC PLAN TO MOVE FORWARD AND IT WILL BE BASED ON WHETHER WE GET A RAMP. WE HAVE BEEN VERY SUCCESSFUL GETTING THE GRANTS.

WE HAVE GOOD RELATIONSHIPS. THAT IS ALL I AM SAYING. WE CAN HAVE THE PLAN AND WE CAN SUBMIT THE GRANT AND MOVE FORWARD, AND CORRECT, IT IS THEREFORE DUNES WE ARE TRYING TO

PROTECT. >> I GET ALL OF THAT. SO, IT SEEMS LIKE THIS IS EASY.

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DO THIS. >> I WENT DOWN THERE AND LOOK. THE OTHERS YOU HAVE TO FIND.

THIS IS A DIRECT FOOTPATH. >> I SAT THERE AND WATCHED AND WITH THE SURFERS WALKING THROUGH I DON'T UNDERSTAND, UNLESS IT IS 100 FEET AWAY THERE'S NOTHING THERE AT ALL.

IT'S IMPORTANT TO PROTECT THE DUNE WHY STOP THE ACTIVITY I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY THAT IS AN ISSUE. THIS IS NOT THE ONLY PROBLEM. THESE ARE THE SAME.

THIS WALKOVER IS A PROBLEM AND IT STARTED A PROBLEM BECAUSE A CITIZEN WAS IN THE WALKOVER.

ANOTHER CITIZEN STOPPED IT AND THE FIRST TIME THEY PUT UP A FENCE AND NOTES, THE CITY CAME AND RIPPED THAT'S AN OUT. THE DEP WAS DOWN AND I AM TOLD, THAT THEY ARE WRITING SOME KIND OF A REPORT BUT THAT HAS BEEN TWO MONTHS. BUT THAT IS HOW THIS ONE GOT OUT

THERE. >> DID WE PULL IT DOWN? >> WE PUT IT UP AND TOOK IT DOWN

BECAUSE OF THE ISSUES. >> SO WE DID IT. WE TORE DOWN SO NO ONE ELSE

WOULD TEAR THE FENCE OUT. >> ASKED THE ACCESS WAS BEING VIOLATED ANYWAY.

SO WE DID TAKE IT DOWN. >> I AM WITH YOU ON THIS ONE. I WOULD LIKE THE PLAN OF PUTTING IN A RAMP OR WE TALKED ABOUT BUT IN THE END TERM, WHATEVER GOES THERE CAN GO AWAY.

>> THIS IS LIKE WHY EVEN HAVE IT. >> THAT IS A CRAZY WALKOVER.

IT IS A HIGH WALKOVER. IT IS NOT PROTECTING THE POOR DUNES AT ALL.

YOU KNOW, SITTING HERE DISCUSSING IT, THAT WOULD NOT BE A BAD PROJECT TO PULL SEVEN OUT AND PUT, PUT THE RAMP AND WALK THERE. YOU COULD DO THAT.

>> IS THAT WHAT YOU RECOMMEND. WE HAVE HAD TONS OF DISCUSSIONS ABOUT PROTECTING THE DUNES.

I THINK WE ARE MAKING PROGRESS AND AT THIS POINT, WE ARE FIGHTING A LOSING BATTLE.

I WAS UPSET WHEN IT GOT PULLED OUT. THE FIRST TIME WE PULLED IT OUT.

I THINK WE CAN ACCOMMODATE EVERYONE, AND COME UP WITH A VIABLE PLAN TO MAKE IT WORK, AND

I THINK THE CITIZENS, MOST OF THEM WILL WORK WITH US ON THAT. >> AGAIN, I SAT THERE THROUGH I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY PRESENTATIONS, FOR THE PROTECTION AND THAT IS WHY WE DID THESE THINGS. NOW HERE IS ONE BEING WALKED RIGHT PAST.

AND WE ARE SAYING, IF IT SHOULD BE THERE, I DON'T THINK IT'S THAT DIFFICULT.

>> IS NOT PROTECTING ANYTHING, IT DOESN'T GO THERE. IT JUST GOES UP AND DOWN.

ACTUALLY WE HAVE 11 THAT ARE THE SAME WAY. SO THIS WOULD BE A GOOD ONE.

A GREAT ONE TO DO. BUT WE NEED IMPACT FUNDS FOR IT. >> OBVIOUSLY I WANT TO TALK ABOUT THIS AND WE WILL COME UP AND CLOSE THE DISCUSSION I THINK THAT IS THE LAST ONE.

WE HAVE A COUPLE MORE. >> BUT AS FAR AS. >> I WANTED TO WRAP UP THIS WOODPECKER WANTED TO GO BACK THAT'S RIGHT WE HAVE MORE TO DISCUSS AFTER THIS.

> AS FAR AS, GETTING GUIDANCE OUT, IT IS A WAIT AND SEE FOR ME.

I TRUST YOU BUT I NEED TO TALK TO THE GUYS. WHO WAS THE GENTLEMAN WHO GAVE

THE GROUP THAT'S RIGHT GREAT BRIEFING. >> I WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK TO

MR. HALL FIRST. >> AND LET'S DECIDE, IF WE DON'T NEED IT THAT'S RIP IT UP.

>> LET'S DO THAT. LET'S DO SOME RESEARCH AND FIND OUT HOW IMPORTANT IT IS.

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>> NOW. >> BUT, THE ACTION I WILL DIRECT STAFF WE WILL LEAVE IT THE WAY IT IS FOR THE TIME BEING. UNTIL YOU COME UP WITH A MORE CONCRETE DIRECTION.

FOR THE TIME BEING WE WILL NOT PUT BOULDERS OR FENCE WE WILL LEAVE IT AS IT IS UNTIL WE COME UP WITH A PLAN AND THE MONEY TO FIGURE OUT WHAT WE WILL DO NOT ONLY AT SEVEN BUT THE OTHER ONES

IN THAT AREA. >> BUT I WANT TO MAKE IT CLEAR WE ARE NOT AT ALL ENCOURAGING PEOPLE TO DESTROY PROPERTY THAT WE PUT UP TO PROTECT THINGS. IF I SEE ONE FACEBOOK POST THAT SAY WE WANT ALL YOU HAVE TO DO IS TEAR STUFF DOWN AND IT GETS FIXED, THAT'S NOT GOOD.

>> OKAY, THANK YOU MR. MAYOR. >> I WANTED TO GO BACK. FREQUENTLY WHAT HAPPENS IS THE COMMISSIONER WILL THROW OUT A SUGGESTION, AND WE DON'T ACT ON IT.

AND COMMISSIONER ROSS HAD A SUGGESTION OF WRITING THE COUNTY A LETTER ON THE TAXPAYER AND IT JUST GOT DROPPED. AND, SO WILL WE GO FORWARD WITH A LETTER, MY PERSONAL FEELING IS THAT EVERY TIME WE WRITE A LETTER FOR THE COUNTY IT DOES NOTHING.

WE WROTE THEM A LETTER ABOUT THE $200 FOR THE FENCE, AND HAVE YOU RECEIVED A RESPONSE.

>> NO, BUT PARKS AND REC THE REQUEST WAS $500,000. THE OTHER WAS $200,000.

I DID RECEIVE AN INVITATION TO MAKE PRESENTATION FOR THE BOARD OF COMMISSIONERS.

>> I WILL GIVE THEM A HEADS UP. I WILL MENTION THE SYNTAX BUT IT IS A MEETING AT 6:00 P.M.,

MONDAY, AUGUST 28. WHATEVER THAT MONDAY IS SPIRIT. >> THIS IS DOING EXACTLY WHAT I

WANT. >> >> WE WILL HAVE A LONG

DISCUSSION WITH LAURA LIE. >> I DON'T WANT TO START A PROCEDURE WHERE WE DO THIS.

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COMMISSIONER ROSS. >> ONE SURE THING. >> O FRIDAY, WAS THE LAST DAY THAT BRONSON WAS THE PROJECT MANAGER FOR THE MARINA. HIS KNOWLEDGE IS AND HIS LEADERSHIP CONTRIBUTED TO THE OUTCOME OF THE PROJECT AND I JUST WANT TO THANK HIM FOR HIS

CONTRIBUTIONS. >> IF THERE ARE NO LIGHTS ON. I JUST WANTED TO GIVE AN UPDATE TO SAY WHAT THE SCHEDULE IS FOR REVIEWING THE SCHEDULE. AT THE GOLF COURSE FROM 10:00 A.M. UNTIL NOON THERE WILL BE PRESENTATIONS BY ALL OF THE FIRMS THAT SUBMITTED PROPOSALS.

AND TO BE CLEAR, TO THE COMMISSIONER THAN ANYONE LISTENING, THE CURRENT COMPANY DID NOT SUBMIT A PROPOSAL, THEY ARE NOT MAKING THE PRESENTATION THIS THURSDAY FOR THE EVALUATION COMMITTEE AND THE PUBLIC BOOK WE ARE TAKING INTO ACCOUNT, TWO DIFFERENT NOTES THAT THE STIRFRY FROM -- ROAD TO THE BOARD. AND, I HEAR IT, ANYONE WHO IS INTERESTED IN THE NEXT MEETING, I THINK THEY HAVE INVITED THEM TO MAKE A PRESENTATION I'M NOT SURE IF THAT WILL HAPPEN OR NOT.

JUST BE CLEAR. AND ON AUGUST 13, I THOUGHT GOLF COURSE AGAIN FROM TEN TO NOON THE EVALUATION COMMITTEE WILL HAVE A PUBLIC EVALUATION. WE DO THEM FIRST PRIVATELY THEN WE WILL USE A SCORE TO SCORE THE FIRMS AND WE WILL SUBMIT THOSE COUPLE OF DAYS OUT.

THOSE ARE CONFIDENTIAL. TO THE PURCHASING AGENT WHO COMPILES THE SCORE IS AND BRING

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RECOMMENDATION FOR THE CITY COMMISSION RECORD SOLUTION FORM. >> WHAT TIME IS THE MEETING ON THURSDAY, AT THE GOLF COURSE, 10:00 A.M. AND THE 13TH, THURSDAY AT

10:00 A.M. >> AT THE GOLF COURSE. WE JUST SUGGESTED PROCEDURE WAS TO CONSIDER WEST STRACK WEDNESDAY DID NOT SUBMIT, IF YOU WANT THEM TO GET IT YOU CAN REJECT THEM ALL. I DON'T THINK YOU CAN JUST ADD SOMEONE IMPAIRED.

>> WHAT I SAID, IF I DID NOT MAKE IT CLEAR, I THINK HE IS VICE PRESIDENT I DON'T KNOW HIS TITLE. JIM IS THE HIGHEST UP THAT WE DEAL WITH.

HE WORKED TO PREPARE CLARIFICATION NOT SEEN WHAT THEY COULD DO FOR THE CITY BUT WHAT HE THOUGHT OF THE OTHER PROPOSALS AND JUST LIKE THE EVALUATION COMMITTEE AND WE ARE

TAKING THAT INTO CONSIDERATION. WE ARE NOT IGNORING ANYTHING. >> WHAT HE SAID IN CONSIDERATION

YOU ARE NOT BRINGING THIS INTO CONSIDERATION. >> ABSOLUTELY.

THEY ARE NOT ONE OF THE FIRMS WE ARE EVALUATING. >> OKAY, 5.5.

OCEAN HIGHWAY AND PORT AUTHORITY. THIS ITEM IS PLACED ON THE

AGENDA AT THE REQUEST OF COMMISSIONER ROSS. >> WILL TALK ABOUT LATER ON.

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>> 5.6, COVID-19. >> MR. LEDNOVICH YOUR. >> THANK YOU MR. MAYOR.

AS I USUALLY DO I WILL PROVIDE THE COMMISSION WITH THE PAST TWO WEEKS, THE CASE NUMBERS.

PLEASE RECOGNIZE THAT THE STATE HAS CHANGED THE WAY THEY NOW REPORT COVID-19 CASES.

SO FOR NASSAU COUNTY, WE ARE NOT GETTING NONRESIDENTS APPEAR THE NUMBER OF NON- RESIDENTS TESTED, AND THE NUMBER OF NON- RESIDENTS WHO ARE POSITIVE. THAT IS NO LONGER IN THE DASHBOARD. SO, FOR THE WEEK OF JULY 22 WE AVERAGED 24 CASES.

TWENTY-FOUR CASES,. DAY, AT 8% POSITIVITY RATE AND THREE DEATHS.

THIS PAST WEEK, THE AVERAGE WAS 21 CASES. DAY, ONCE AGAIN 8% AND ANOTHER THREE DEATHS. SO THE 11 TOTAL DEATHS SIX HAVE BEEN IN THE PAST TWO WEEKS.

JUST TO LET YOU KNOW THAT. THAT COMPARES TO, JULY 20 WHERE THERE WERE 41 CASES.

WEEK. THAT IS A BYPRODUCT OF JULY 4. >> AND IN EARLY JULY IT WAS 9.7.

DAY AND IN JUNE, IT WAS 1.6. SO THERE IS PROGRESS, THE POSITIVITY RATE IS COMING DOWN,

BUT WE ARE STILL IN THE 20S. THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU, SIR.

>> MAYOR KREGER. >> I ALSO WROTE SOME NUMBERS. THE CURB IS COMING DOWN.

THERE IS TWO ISSUES. THE POSITIVE ISSUE IS THE COUNTY HAS COME OUT WITH BUSINESS LOANS UP TO $5,000. I THINK WE HAVE APPLICATIONS UPSTAIRS.

THE MOST ABSTRACT MOST OF THE CRITERIA LOOKS GOOD. >> SOME APPLICATIONS HAD ERRONEOUS INFORMATION THE COUNTY TOOK IT BACK AND THEY WILL GIVE US THE CORRECTED FORM.

WHEN THOSE COME OUT I WILL SEND YOU AN E-MAIL SO WE CAN HAVE THE APPLICATIONS AVAILABLE AGAIN.

>> I THINK IT WAS LIKE 400 SMALL BUSINESSES UP TO $500,000. SO THAT IS A POSITIVE THING.

THE OTHER THING IS THE CITY MAKING THE STATEMENT HE IS GETTING PUSHED BY ATHLETIC GROUPS TO USE OUR FIELDS. THE GOVERNOR HAS ENCOURAGED FIELDS AND OPENING OTHER STUFF.

I GUESS THE STAFF IS -- DOES NOT SUPPORTED THEY FEEL THEY CAN'T PROVIDE APPROPRIATE SOCIAL DISTANCING. I WILL.OUT THE CDC CRITERIA IS DIFFERENT THAN THE STATE CRITERIA. AS OF TONIGHT, ACCORDING TO MARIANNE, THE SCHOOLS HAVE NOT

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THE LIKELIHOOD OF COVID-19, AT LEAST WHAT THEY WRITE TO ME IS MINIMIZED.

THE GOVERNOR'S EXECUTIVE ORDER 20 -- 131 DOES SPECIFICALLY SAY, AS PART OF THE PHASE, ORGANIZE YOUTH ACTIVITIES MAY OPERATE INCLUDING YOUTH SPORTS TEAMS AND LEAGUES AND CHILDCARE.

SO, YES, STAFF THEY HAVE SAID THEY DON'T BELIEVE SOCIAL DISTANCING WILL BE VIOLATED AMONGST PARENTS OR SPECTATORS. SO THEY ARE HESITANT. AGAIN THIS IS, IF I STAND ON THAT, THE NEXT SERIES OF E-MAILS WILL COME TO YOU. SO THE QUESTION IS, DO WE CONTINUE ON THE PATH WE HAVE WHICH IS WHAT VICE MAYOR KRIEGER SAID, AND WAIT AND SEE HOW THE CURB BEGINS TO FLATTEN. AND THE SCHOOL HOW THEY HANDLE FALL ATHLETICS BUT ON ANOTHER ISSUE THAT THIS IS I NEED THE DIRECTION FROM. WE ARE GETTING SIGNIFICANT E-MAIL PRESSURE FROM THE PARENTS, A LOT OF THEM ARE COUNTING THE DAYS BECAUSE WE HAVE A LOT OF COUNTY FACILITIES WHICH LEADS TO THE 500,000-DOLLAR REQUEST.

BUT THE PRESSURE IS THERE, SAINT OPEN UP THE SOCCER FIELDS WE DON'T KNOW WHY YOU CLOSE THEM IN

THE FIRST PLACE. >> WE WILL WAIT UNTIL WE GET TO THE NEXT SECTION.

IT'S ABOUT WHAT THE SCHOOL DISTRICT IS DOING. DO YOU HAVE INFORMATION ABOUT WHAT THEY ARE DOING. IF YOU CAN PRESENT THAT THAT IS FINE.

OKAY I AM MARION PHILLIPS. I LIVE IN FERNANDINA, FLORIDA I WORK FOR THE NASSAU SCHOOL BOARD. WHEN I GOT HERE THERE WAS A QUESTION ABOUT FOOTBALL.

PRACTICES CAN BEGIN ON AUGUST 24. WE ARE WAITING TO HEAR FROM THE FLORIDA HIGH SCHOOL ATHLETIC ASSOCIATION, THEY WILL PROVIDE DIRECTIONS FOR THE FOOTBALL

SEASON. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >> I THINK WE WAIT ON THAT.

>> HAVING TWO DAUGHTERS WHO BOTH PLAYED SOCCER, AND IF ANYONE HAS EVER AN 8-YEAR-OLD SOCCER GAME, WE USED TO CALL IT BEEHIVE. BECAUSE UNLIKE NORMAL SOCCER WHERE THE PLAYERS ARE SPREAD OUT, THE LITTLE ONES COLLECT AROUND THE BALL AND IT IS A BEEHIVE.

SO, YET THEY ARE OUTDOORS BUT THERE IS NO SOCIAL DISTANCING IN THE BEEHIVE.

SO I WOULD BE RETICENT FOR THAT AGE GROUP TO ENGAGE IN SOCCER, UNTIL THE SCHOOLS OPEN ON THE 24TH. UNTIL WE SEE HOW WELL THINGS GO. I THINK THAT SHOULD BE OUR GAUGE. IS IT SAFE TO GO TO SCHOOL. IS IT SAFE TO HAVE SCHOOL SPORTS. THEN I THINK IT WOULD BE SAFE TO HAVE YOUTH SPORTS.

BUT I DON'T SEE ANY HARM IN WAITING THREE WEEKS. THANK YOU.

>> ARE YOU GOOD PEERS. >> OKAY, ITEM 5.7. THIS IS THE GRANTING PROJECT

[5.7 GRANT AND PROJECT OPTIONS - FLORIDA DEPARTMENT OF ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTION (FDEP), FLORIDA RESILIENT COASTLINES PROGRAM, RESILIENCE IMPLEMENTATION GRANT (RIG)]

PROGRAM AND RESILIENCE IMPLEMENTATION GRANT. >> DO YOU WANT TO GIVE YOUR

INSTRUCTION? SANCHEZ. >> GOOD EVENING.

I AM THE CITY GRANT ADMINISTRATOR. I'M HERE TO TALK TO YOU TONIGHT ABOUT FLORIDA DEPARTMENT OF ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTION. FLORIDA RESILIENT COASTLINES PROGRAM AND THE IMPLEMENTATION GRANT WHICH I WILL REFER TO AS RIG.

I AM PREPARED TO TALK ABOUT THE GRANT THAT WILL REQUIRE $50,000 IN IMPROVEMENTS OR THE GRANT

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WITH NO MATCHING FUNDS. THESE GRANTS ARE AVAILABLE TO THE COMMUNITIES LIKE FERNANDINA THAT ARE REQUIRED TO HAVE A COASTAL MANAGEMENT ELEMENT IN THE PLAN.

AND THE PURPOSE OF THE GRANT IS TO ASSIST COASTAL COMMUNITIES WITH IMPLEMENTING THEIR AID AND PROTECTION RESILIENT PLANTS BY CONTROLLING EROSION OF FLOOD CONTROL, PUBLIC STRUCTURES AND PROJECTS INCLUDED IN ADAPTATIONS FOR RESILIENCE. SOMETHING THAT IS UNIQUE ABOUT THE GRANT IT HAS A TEN MONTH WINDOW. THEY'RE LOOKING FOR PROJECTS THAT ARE PERMANENT. IMPLEMENTATION WILL BE, BETWEEN 2021 AND MAY OF 2022.

SO BASED ON THE GRAPH AND I SENT YOU ALL AN E-MAIL TO SEE IF YOU WRITE ANY PROJECTS YOU SPECIFICALLY WANTED TO CONSIDER. THROUGH THIS PROCESS, SIX PROJECTS WERE PROPOSED.

FIVE OF THEM ARE INCLUDED IN THE PACKET TONIGHT. ONE OF THEM I RECEIVED LATE, IT IS FROM THE ST. MARY RIVER KEEPERS. SO WITH THE SIX PROJECTS UNDER CONSIDERATION, AND I HAVE A PRINT OUT THAT I SENT YOU. AS YOU KNOW, THE STUDY IS GOING ON, SO WE COULD DO SOME PORTION OF THAT WITH THIS GRANT. ONE EFFORT WAS AN ACTUAL SHORELINE. I DID REACH OUT TO SEE IF THERE'S A SECTION OF THIS AT THIS TIME THAT SEEMS LOGICAL BUT I DID NOT HEAR BACK. THE NEXT ONE IS STREET PROTECTION. AND POSSIBLY CONSIDER CHANGING THE ROAD.

THIS WOULD HELP PROTECT 58 ACRES. THIRD IS THIS PROJECT OPTION.

AND MAYOR KREGER HELP ME WITH THESE. VARIOUS WAYS TO PUT THE PROBLEM TOGETHER. JUST SLICE IT AND I SIT DEPENDING ON HOW YOU WANT TO SPEND THE MONEY. BUT ONE PUZZLE WAS -- WE DO HAVE A LIST OF 12 THAT ARE AROUND IT AND THEY ARE ALLOWING CONSTRUCTION. SO WE COULD DO BEACH WALK OVER WITH SIX OF THESE. THE SHORTEST ONES. THESE ARE THE ONES CLOSEST TO THE PROPERTY AND REAL ESTATE BUSINESSES. ALTERNATELY WE COULD DO THIS BEACH ACCESS. WE COULD DO IT BECAUSE THERE'S A SIGNIFICANT GAP THERE.

WE COULD, PROVIDE AN EXTENSION. THAT WOULD BE AN EXCELLENT ACCESS BECAUSE THERE IS A PARKING LOT THERE. THIS IS NOT VIABLE BECAUSE IT IS A LONG-TERM PROJECT.

WE ONLY HAVE TO PARTNER WITH F.BUT I WANTED TO KEEP IT ON THE LIST AND KEEP IT ON YOUR WIRELESS. THAT IS OUR BIGGEST ONE IN THE ATLANTIC.

THIS IS THE LAST OF THE FIVE OF THEM. THIS IS THE OLD SECTION OF THE CEMETERY WHERE EROSION COULD BE STABILIZED. WE CAN DO RETAINING OF THE WALLS. THE LAST ONE IS THE SHORELINE PROJECT WHERE THEY PROPOSE PHASE TWO. THIS IS ALONG THE WATERFRONT OF THE RIVER.

AND I WON'T GO INTO MORE DETAIL. I WILL TAKE ANY QUESTIONS. >> I BELIEVE COMMISSIONER ROSS

IS FIRST. >> SO, I HAVE LOOKED AT THIS PROPOSAL AND IT IS A GRANT FOR NATURE -BASED OPTIONS AND IT WILL PAY UP TO A HALF MILLION DOLLARS.

AND IT IS UNMATCHED. IT SPECIFICALLY SAYS THE PROJECT MAY INCLUDE LIVING SHORELINES AND REDUCTION TO FLOOD RISK. FOLLOWING ONE APPLICATION, ONLY ONE APPLICATION CAN BE SUBMITTED BY THE CITY AND NO MATCH REQUIRED. SO YOU CAN'T SUBMIT ALL OF

THESE. IS THAT CORRECT. >> SO MY UNDERSTANDING, THESE

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WE HAVE OTHER MONEY SITTING IN THE BANK. SINCE THE CURRENT PROJECT WILL REDUCE FLOOD RISK THROUGH DOWNTOWN WHICH IS WHAT IT IS DESIGNED TO DO AND WILL UTILIZE A LIVING SHORELINE IT SEEMS LIKE IT IS PERFECT FOR THIS GRANT. SO, I READ THE OPTIONS, WE HAVE AN ENGINEER WORKING ON THIS SPIRIT AND I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THE MANAGER APPLY FOR THE GRANT BECAUSE IT IS ONE OF OUR COUPLES. WE HAVE SHORELINE STABILIZATION.

WE HAVE LIVING SHORELINES AND IT SEEMS LIKE SOMETHING THAT WOULD WORK OUT QUITE WELL.

>> ANOTHER ADVANTAGE OF THAT IS TWO YEARS AGO WE PUT IN FOR A STRATEGY THROUGH, WHICH IS IT, A GRANT THAT COMES AROUND EVERY YEAR END MAPS OUT EACH COUNTY BASED ON TAX REVENUE.

AND WE PUT IT IN THE PROJECT. FOR THE PROJECT. AND THE PROJECT GOING FORWARD.

THE PROJECT THEY MAKE YOU DO A TOTAL SOLUTION THEY DON'T LET YOU PHASE ANYTHING IN.

SO TH MONEY ONLY WENT SO FAR THEN IT DISPLAYS THE STORM PROBLEM.

SO WE STARTED TO DO THINGS ON THE WATERFRONT AND THAT COULD MEDIATE -- MOVE US TO A PLACE

WHERE WE GET A BETTER SOLUTION. >> ACTUALLY I THINK, THE GOOD POINT HERE IS WE ARE GETTING DOCUMENTATIONS ON THE PROJECTS BUT NOT FOR THIS. THE SHORELINE STABILIZATION WAS INTERESTING AND I SENT YOU THE DOCUMENTS AND THAT WAS A PROJECT AND WE WERE RATED SECOND IN THE COUNTY. AND WE LATER PUT IN FOR THE PROJECT.

SO MOVING FORWARD WITH THAT I WOULD HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THAT. I WILL TELL YOU, AND THIS IS A POINT, THE PROJECT IS ACTUALLY $827 MILLION PROJECT WHICH IS PART OF THE FEDERAL FUNDING WHICH THEY MENTION. SO, I THINK WE HAVE TO BE REALLY CAREFUL OF THAT AND I WANT TO MAKE SURE THE LIVING SHORELINE IS A. AND I WERE LOW POINT IS OVER THERE. SO HOWEVER THAT LAND SPIRIT IF THAT IS THE WAY THE COMMISSION WANTS TO GO THAT IS FINE. I WILL TELL YOU, BOTH OF THE BEACH PROJECTS, THE WALKOVER'S ARE BASICALLY, NOT ONLY WOULD THEY BE SHOVEL READY, WE CAN DO THEM.

I'M NOT SO SURE, THIS IS SO DOABLE AND I THINK WE SHOULD LOOK CLOSE.

THE ADA ACCESSES EXCELLENT BECAUSE YOU CAN SEE THE PICTURES THEN THERE OF THE GAPS IN THE DUNES AND THE FLOODING. THERE ARE 12 PARKING LOTS. THERE IS NO ADA ACCESS FROM SADLER TO THE SOUTH IN HE WILL PROBABLY COME IN. WE COULD PROBABLY GET $500,000 FOR THAT. ALL OF THE BEACH ACCESSES ARE SHOVEL READY AT ANY TIME.

AND PROVING THAT WE DID FOUR THAT GOT DELAYED. AND WE DID THAT IN THREE MONTHS.

SO, I WOULD BE CAREFUL WITH THIS. AGAIN I WILL SAY FURTHER, I BELIEVE THE BEACH ACCESS, BECAUSE OF OUR EXPERIENCE AND REPUTATION AND OUR COORDINATION WOULD STAND WELL AND I'M NOT SURE THE OTHERS WOULD STAND SO WELL.

WE HAVEN'T DONE WELL ON TIMING. SO REMEMBER WE HAVE 2017 MONEY AND WE HAVE IT EXTENDED.

IN 2018 WE HAD TO REPURPOSE THE MONEY. SO WE KNOW THAT STUFF.

I THINK WE HAVE TO LOOK AT THE OPPORTUNITY TO GET THE GRANT. I THINK LAURA CAN HELP US A LOT BECAUSE WE KNOW THE PEOPLE AND WE HAVE MET WITH THEM. SO WEEP BEFORE WE MAKE THE FINAL DECISION I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THAT. AND IF WE CAN GET A FEEL FOR

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THAT. >> I WILL SAY SO IN THIS APPLICATION YOU GET EXTRA POINTS FOR HAVING THE PRODUCTS IN HAND. AND WE HAVE TALKED ABOUT WHAT KIND OF STUFF WE HAVE HAD AT THIS TIME. TO FUND THE TEN MONTH PROJECT. WELL PERHAPS WE COULD DO THAT BECAUSE I THINK, OUR FOCUS HAS BEEN THE WATERFRONT. THE RESILIENCY AND I READ THE APPLICATION, IT SPEAKS TO, AGAIN, RESILIENCE FOR DOWNTOWN AND THE SHORELINES.

THOSE ARE INCORPORATED AND I FEEL CONFIDENT. >> THANK YOU MR. MAYOR.

GRAVEL PROCESS. SO I HAVE HEARD TWO VERY GOOD ARGUMENTS.

FOURTEEN SHORELINES, ONE FOR RESILIENCY AND ONE FOR BEACH WALKOVER SPIRIT WHEN WE ARE TALKING ABOUT DIRECTING A GRANT APPLICATION APPLICATION, DOES THIS REQUIRE A MOTION BY THE

COMMISSIONER? >> OR DO WE ALL JUST NOD OUR HEADS.

>> I DON'T THINK SHE HEARD WHAT SHE NEEDS TO HEAR JUST YET. I WAS GOING TO GET TO THAT AS

WELL. >> WELL, I WAS SUGGESTING THAT HE SUGGEST TO HER THAT WE GET A BETTER FEEL FOR WHAT IS GOING ON. I WILL TELL YOU THE BEACH WALKOVER'S, ARE BASICALLY IN HAND BECAUSE WHEN WE GO OUT AND DO THEM.

SO, I THINK WE SHOULD GET A FEEL >> OUR STATE LEGISLATION, WE DID NOT GET STORMWATER MONEY INTO ANYTHING BECAUSE WE DIDN'T GET THIS SPIRIT WE DIDN'T DO 18. AND WE HAD A REPURPOSE SPIRIT LET'S BE CAREFUL. I DON'T DISAGREE THAT IT IS A VIABLE PROJECT BUT, IN MY

OPINION WE WANT TO PUT IN FOR WHAT WE CAN WIN. >> DO YOU HAVE A FEELING OF HOW

MUCH CONFIDENT THAT SHREK HOW MUCH CONFIDENT YOU HAVE. >> I BELIEVE THAT'S IT.

I REALLY WISH I COULD HAVE THAT CONVERSATION TO KNOW WHERE THAT REPORTING IS.

BECAUSE I DON'T HAVE THAT INFORMATION I CAN ANSWER THAT. THEY ARE VERY STRONG AND VIABLE.

IF THAT WORKS TIMEWISE, I THINK THEY WOULD BE STRONG APPLICATIONS.

SO DO YOU HAVE ONE, SO WHERE WE NOW. WHEN WE DO THIS, WHY DO WE HAVE, I'LL TALK WITH ANDY. AND COME BACK LET'S LET DALE WEIGH IN ON IT TOO.

NOT NECESSARILY NOW BUT WHEN THE TIME COMES. CHANTRY CANAVERAL WORKSHOP

DOESN'T HAVE TO BE NOTICE PERIOD WE HAVE TO NOTICE THE MEETING. >> I GUESS WHAT I'M SAYING, WE CAN START THE WORK BY TALKING AND WE CAN START THE BACKGROUND WORK ON THAT, BUT GETTING TO YOU ON SEPTEMBER 1 WE HAVE AN ENTIRE MONTH BEFORE SEPTEMBER 1. WE CAN DO OUR INTERNAL REVIEW AND SAY THIS IS WHEN WE WANT TO PURSUE AND GET IT TO YOU FOR A FORMAL ENDORSEMENT OF THE PROJECT. THAT GIVES US TIME TO MEET THE SEPTEMBER DEADLINE.

>> I JUST DON'T WANT TO DELAY TOO MUCH. >> I WOULD LIKE TO PUT THIS IN FOR THE GRANT BUT THIS DOES HAVE A MATCH SO THIS ONE IS DUE SEPTEMBER 29.

SO, I WOULD BE DEVELOPING THAT ONE SIMULTANEOUSLY. >> LET'S CUT TO THE CHASE.

YOU WANT TO PUT $60,000 IN THE BUDGET TO MATCH THAT? >> DO YOU USE IMPACT FUNDS?

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>> THANK YOU. >> BEFORE WE GO TO FIND A MATE WE HAVE GONE BEYOND THE 90 MINUTE MARK SO WE WILL TAKE A FIVE MINUTE BREAK.

>>> OKAY WE ARE BACK TO ORDER. >>> THIS IS ITEM 5.8 HOUSING AUTHORITY BUILDING.

[5.8 HOUSING AUTHORITY BUILDING ]

>>> YOU WANT TO USE PICTURES OR, THE PICTURE THAT IS THE AERIAL PHOTOGRAPH.

>> OKAY. OKAY, SO, MONTHS AGO I WAS APPROACHED BY THE HOUSING AUTHORITY AND THE CHAIRMAN AND ALSO, THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTORS IN THE COMMUNITY TO HEAR THEM TALK.

AND THEY ASKED ME, THAT THEY WANTED TO BUILD ON THIS FOR A MULTIPURPOSE ROOM AND YOU COULD GO TO THE DRAWING. THIS IS THE BUILDING RIGHT HERE. THEY WANT TO PUT A MULTIPURPOSE ROOM AND THE PURPOSE TO SERVE AS A HAVEN FOR YOUTH EDUCATIONAL PROGRAMS AS WELL AS EXTRACURRICULAR ACTIVITIES IN THE COMMUNITY. AND BACK TO SCHOOL GIVEAWAYS AND FINANCIAL CLASSES HERE AND HOLD PROGRAMS HERE SO, THE GIST WAS HOW DO YOU DO THIS.

SO I APPROACHED A LOCAL, CAN YOU GO BACK, WHICH ONE. THE TWO PICTURES OF THE BUILDING. SO IT WOULD GO RIGHT IN HERE TO ADD ON TO THAT.

THESE ARE THE TWO WINDOWS APPEAR AND THAT IS THE ROOM ITSELF AND IT WOULD TAKE UP THE WINDOWS AND PUT THE ROOM RIGHT THERE. SO WHAT'S NEEDED TO ACCOMPLISH THAT, YOU HAVE TO HAVE ARCHITECTURAL DRAWINGS AND SOMEONE WILLING TO BUILD IT AND A WAY TO FUND THE BUILDING MATERIALS. I REACHED OUT, AND MY ASSOCIATES GAVE ME AN ESTIMATE FOR AN ARCHITECTURAL DRAWING, AND SUBSEQUENT TO THAT I SPOKE TO SOMEONE WHO WAS WILLING TO DESIGN THIS. AND I ALSO SPOKE WITH, AT WORST, ARE VERY ARE WILLING TO DO A TAKEOFF WHICH MEANS A LUIKART THOUGH DRAWINGS AND ALL OF THE MATERIALS YOU NEED TO DO IT.

IS WILLING TO PROVIDE THOSE AT COST. AND DELIVER THEM AT COST.

AND THIRD I'VE TALKED TO CONTRACTORS AND PEOPLE FROM WHO MARRIED NEVE UP TO SEE THE PLANS BUT THEY WOULD BE WILLING TO DO IT TO. SO I AM WILLING TO SAY HE'S WILLING TO DO IT PRO BONO WHICH IS FANTASTIC. WE SHOULD CONSIDER THINKING ABOUT HOLDING ON TO THAT FOR THE FUTURE FOR BUYING MATERIALS TO BUILD THIS WEIRD I THINK THIS WOULD BE A WONDERFUL THING FOR THE COMMUNITY. ANY QUESTIONS?

I'M SORRY. >> HOW MUCH MONEY DO WE HAVE THIS CAME IN AT $4,000.

WE ARE EXPECTING, FROM RENOVATED AMERICA, WE ARE EXPECTING ANOTHER $15,000.

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AND THE CONTRACTORS ALL WANT TO DO IT. >> I THINK IT IS A GOOD IDEA.

>> ME TOO. >> I'M GLAD PEOPLE ARE HERE TO SPEAK ON IT.

WE HAVE THE FULL SUPPORT OF THE COMMISSION SO IT'S ALL DONE. >> THANK YOU SO MUCH.

>> THANK YOU ARM TO SECTION SIX AND I HAVE SOMEONE REQUESTING TO SPEAK.

[6. PUBLIC COMMENT REGARDING ITEMS NOT ON THE AGENDA OR ITEMS ON THE CONSENT AGENDA]

>> I HAVE MANY THINGS AFTER HEARING ALL ABOUT. I AM DAVID SURGES.

I HAVE MANY THINGS TO SPEAK ABOUT BUT MY MAIN TOPIC IS AFTER I HAD A DISCUSSION WITH ONE OF THEIR MEMBERS AND THEY HAD A RECENT REPORT AND IT DOES HAVE E. COLI WASTE COMING AND I APPRECIATE EVERYONE ANSWERING ME OVER THE WEEKEND IN THE E-MAILS AND PHONE CALLS.

BUT ULTIMATELY, WHERE IS WASTE COMING FROM ONE OUT OF FIVE RESIDENTS SAUL, WHETHER IT IS THE CITY'S RESPONSIBILITY OR NOT THE CITY'S RESPONSIBILITY, I FEEL THEY NEED TO TAKE THE RESPONSIBILITY AND BE PROACTIVE. THE MAYOR CONTACTED ME WITH THE INFORMATION.

CHIP MENTIONED HE HAS SEEN THE REPORT SO I HAVE FOLLOWED UP TO SEE IF I CAN GET HOLD OF IT.

THE ANSWER IS, THE SYSTEM IS GETTING POLLUTED. HE HAS BEEN GOING ON FOR TWO YEARS NOW. OBVIOUSLY SOME OF IT WAS -- SOMEONE HAS TO TAKE THE RESPONSIBILITY AND GET WITH THE PEOPLE AND THE PERSON I SPOKE TO SAID THEY HAD MONEY TO GET THESE SYSTEMS HOOKED UP. BUT THE ANSWER IS IT NEEDS TO BE DEALT WITH.

IT'S GOING ON TWO YEARS AND THE RIVER SYSTEM, IT WILL BE JUST LIKE COMPANY THIS INTO THE RIVER THAT'S ALL, THAT'S MY POINT. THEY ARE TRYING TO GET THE BALL ROLLING.

I ALREADY HAVE THE REPORT, AND NUMBER TWO, THIS IS ALREADY ON THE AGENDA FOR THE NEXT MEETING.

>> YOU JUMP A QUESTION. >> I CAN WAIT. >> THANK YOU SIR.

>> ALL RIGHT MS. KIM WELCOME MA'AM. >> CAN YOU COME TO THE PODIUM

AND STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS YOU HAVE 3 MINUTES. >> KIM LANDERS, AND I AM ONE OF

THE RESIDENT'S CONCERNS ABOUT THE SEVEN NORTH. >> I DON'T KNOW IF YOU CAN SEE IT BUT I DID A LITTLE POSTER AND YOU CALL THEM SEVEN NORTH ZERO FIVE NORTH I CALLED THEM BY THE STREETS. THIS IS THE FIRST STREET TO THE BEACH.

THE SECOND STREET, THERE IS A WALKWAY BUT THERE IS ALSO A PATH ACROSS THE DUNES TO THE BEACH.

THIRD STREET IS A PATH OVER THOUSANDS GOING TO THE BEACH. FORT STREET IS ANOTHER DUNES WHERE WE ARE, AND THIS IS THE STEEPEST STEPS, THIS IS THE PATH, THE PATH DOES NOT GO TO THE BEACH. THE PATH SIMPLY GOES BESIDE THE STEPS AND YOU STEP ONTO IT OR YOU COME DOWN THE STEPS. IT'S NOT ALL THE WAY UP TO THE BEACH.

THIS IS FOURTH WITH THE FENCES. THIS WAS JUST PUT UP. THIS IS FIFTH STREET.

THEY GO UP BESIDE THIS. THIS IS SIX STREET THEY GO BESIDE IT.

THIS IS SEVENTH STREET AND THEY THIS IS EIGHTH STREET I TOOK THIS PICTURE AND IT DID SHOW UP WELL. THIS IS EIGHT STREET THEY GO UP AROUND THIS AREA.

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EVERY STREET AS A PATH INTO THE BEACH. BUT FOURTH STREET IS THE ONLY ONE YOU ARE FENCING. MY QUESTION IS, WHY IS THAT WE HAVE, WONDERFUL NEIGHBORHOOD SPIRIT WE ARE ACROSS THIS FREE FROM BERNADINO SHORES. IN SUMMER YOU HAVE A LOT OF YOUNG FAMILIES WITH CHILDREN THAT PULLS WAGONS WITH THE EQUIPMENT THEY TAKE TO THE BEACH AND THIS IS A. IN THE WINTER, A LOT OF SHORES ARE RETIRED COUPLES THAT STAYED THERE FOR THE WINTER. A LOT OF THEM HAVE THE FISHING CARTS.

THAT IS USED CONSTANTLY. TEN YEARS AGO, MY CARDIOLOGIST STILL TELLS ME I SHOULD NOT BE ALIVE. I HAVE DAMAGED MY HEART. BUT GOD KEPT ME ALIVE FOR SIX YEARS SO I COULD FINISH TEACHING SCHOOL AND RETIRE TO THE COMMUNITY THAT I DREAMED OF LIVING IN. FERNANDINA BEACH. MY HUSBAND AND I HAVE VACATION HERE FOR 25 YEARS. AND WE WERE FINALLY ABLE TO BUY OUR HOME.

WE ARE ON THE CORNER. WE LIVE RIGHT THERE. MAP YOUR TIME HAS EXPIRED.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH. CAN I HAVE HIS TIME TOO. I'M SORRY DOESN'T WORK THAT WAY.

>> THIS IS HEATHER BOATMAN. >> GOOD EVENING MY NAME IS HEATHER I MET 630 TARPON AVENUE.

I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR YOUR PUBLIC SERVICE AND YOUR TIME WITH THE COMMUNITY.

I JUST WANT TO, I LIKE EVERYTHING THAT WAS SAID AND WHEN WE WERE TALKING ABOUT THE SUBJECT AT WHERE WE WERE AT I WANT TO SAY THAT AS A MOTHER OF YOUNG CHILDREN, USING THIS, SOMETHING IS NOT POINTED OUT ON THE ACCESS IS IT IS VERY STEEP ON ACCESS SEVEN.

IF YOU SEE MORE PEOPLE GO ALONGSIDE IT IS NOT OUT OF REBELLION OR NOT DOING THE RIGHT THING IT IS ACTUALLY FOR SAFETY BECAUSE THE STAIRS ARE VERY STEEP.

AS A MOTHER OF YOUNG CHILDREN, AND I THINK MR. CHAPMAN SAID AT ONE MEETING, BRINGING MY CHILD OVER AND LEAVE THEM AT THE BEACH AND COME BACK AND GET MY THINGS, THAT WAS A MEETING THAT WE FOLLOWED BACK IN MAY. IF WE BELIEVE AT THAT TIME THAT THE SUBJECT WAS GOING TO BE DEFERRED TO A SPECIAL -- SPECIALIST AND REVISITED AS A COMMUNITY WE WERE SHOCKED WHEN ANOTHER FENCE WAS PUT UP. IF WE ALL SAID, THIS IS WHAT'S BEST FOR THE DUNES.

BECAUSE WE DO CARE ABOUT THE ENVIRONMENT. WE CARE ABOUT PROFIT TOO.

BUT LET'S BE HONEST. IT WON'T STOP A STORM SURGE PERIOD THE WAY I SEE IT.

I'M NOT AN EXPERT. SO, I DO UNDERSTAND TRAMPLING OVER THIS.

THAT MAKES TOTAL SENSE. I AM CONCERNED IF YOU PUT A BOULDER AND BLOCK IT, YOU WILL NOT STOP IT, THAT WILL MAKE IT WORSE. WHEN PEOPLE MENTION THEIR OWN PATH, IT WILL GET WORSE BECAUSE PEOPLE WILL MAKE THEIR OWN PATH AGAIN.

I THINK IT WOULD BE WISE FOR ALL OF US TO GET ON THE SAME PAGE AND DO WHAT'S BEST TO MOVE FORWARD TOGETHER. I PROMISE IT HASN'T BEEN BECAUSE OF, I HAVE RESPECT FOR YOUR POSITIONS AND THE CITY. THIS HAS BECOME SUCH A HEATED TOPIC.

IT DID NOT MAKE SENSE TO THE CITIZENS ON WHY A FENCE WAS PUT AT ACCESS SEVEN AND THERE WASN'T A PLAN FOR THE WHOLE BEACH BEAR SO IF YOU COME TO US AND SAY THIS IS THE PLAN AND THIS IS THE BEACH ACCESS FOR THE DUNES. I THINK WE WOULD ALL BE ON BOARD AND SAY LET'S DON'T THERE PEOPLE WHO NEED ACCESS TO THE BEACH. I DON'T SEE WHY THAT CAN'T BE A WHEN WIN SITUATION.

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>> MR. STEVE GOLDMAN. >> THAT IS MY HUSBAND. >> LESTER.

>> MY NAME IS LESTER I LIVE IN THE SAME PLACES THAT LADY OVER THERE.

I DON'T KNOW WHAT TO SAY ANYMORE. WE HAVE BEEN DISCUSSING THIS FOR SIX MONTHS NOW AND YOU COME TO A PLAN TO CORRECT THE PROBLEM AND I APPRECIATE THAT, AND JUST REMEMBER WHEN YOU MAKE THE PLAN, A LOT OF THESE LADIES, THEY DO A LOT.

BUT YOU CAN'T BE AS A FISHERMAN WITHIN 100 YARDS OF WHAT IS THAT THE LIFEGUARD STAND WHEN YOU ARE FISHING SO YOU HAVE THE PUBLIC ACCESS TO THE LEFT AND TO THE RIGHT YOU HAVE THE MAIN BEACH.

SO YOU HAVE TO TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION HOW MUCH ROOM YOU HAVE A LOT OF FISHERMAN.

THERE'S A LOT THERE. BECAUSE THE NORTH END IS THE BEST PLACE TO GO FISHING.

I THOUGHT I WOULD LET YOU KNOW IF YOU WOULD DO THAT AS A PLAN TO TAKE THAT INTO CONSIDERATION.

THAT IS ALL I HAVE TO. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH SIR. >> MR. WILLIAM.

>> I LIVE AT THIS ADDRESS. FOR THE LAST YEARS, SINCE I WAS OLD ENOUGH TO WALK, MY FATHER AND I HAVE WALKED DOWN THIS TRAIL. DON'T ACT LIKE IT IS NEW.

I HAVE WALKED DOWN THERE FOR 72 YEARS. I WAS A SENIOR IN HIGH SCHOOL WHEN NORA CAME THROUGH. YOU'D LIKE TO US AGAIN. THE FENCE GOING BACK UP, YOU SAID IT WOULDN'T HAPPEN. ONE YEAR END A HALF EARLIER, THEY GRADED THE ROAD AND THEY TOOK THE DIRT AND DUMPED IT INTO THE MIDDLE OF THE TRAIL. ONE DAY I ASKED THE GUY WHAT ARE YOU DOING. HE SAID I WAS TOLD TO DO IT. HE SAID THE GUY OF PARKS AND RECREATION. I GOT IN TOUCH WITH HIM. WHICH WASN'T EASY.

HE SAID I WILL MEET YOU OUT THERE TOMORROW AT YOUR PLACE ON FOURTH STREET.

HE CAME OUT THERE, AND HE APOLOGIZED AND SAID THAT WAS A NEW GUY.

HE WASN'T SUPPOSED TO DO THAT, I AM SORRY. AND HE SAID THAT HIS JOB TRAIL YOU CAN HAVE IT. THEN HE PUT A TRASHCAN IN THE MIDDLE OF THE TRAIL.

MY WHOLE LIFE, I HAVE WALKED DOWN THE TRAIL. IT IS NOTHING NEW.

MR. CHAPMAN ACCUSING TRAIL, DESCRIBE THE SPIRIT HELP YOU DESTROY SOMETHING THAT IS NOT THERE. I LOVE THIS AREA. MY FAMILY GOES BACK OR GENERATION. I LOVE THE WHOLE ISLAND AND I HAVE SEEN WHAT HAS HAPPENED.

Y'ALL WERE CONCERNED ABOUT A THREE-FOOT TRAIL THAT GOES 20 FEET THAT EVERYONE USES AND NEED. KIDS GO THERE. YOU PUT A FENCE UP TO STOP FAMILIES FROM GOING TO THE BEACH. THAT IS ALL I HAVE.

>> I'M GOING TO TAKE UP TIME. I APPRECIATE YOU GUYS YOU GUYS PASSING THIS.

IT HAS BEEN A GOAL SINCE LAST YEAR AND ONE OF THE WINE WILL DO THIS.

I WANT THE RESIDENCE, SOMETIMES PEOPLE DON'T KNOW HOW TO GET OUT OF IT.

TO BE ABLE TO EDUCATE THEM AND PROVIDE THEM WITH TRAINING AND THE MEMES TO GET OUT.

THIS IS WHAT WE WANT TO USE. THIS WILL BE OPEN TO THE COMMUNITY.

TO GIVE CHRISTMAS PARTIES TO THE KIDS, WE DID ONE AND WE HAD TO RENT THE REC CENTER.

WE PUT OUR FUNDS TOGETHER AND VENDORS DONATED TO THEIR KIDS. SO IT IS NOT JUST SOMETHING TO

[02:00:03]

WE HAVE A FACILITY WHERE PEOPLE WILL BE IN WALKING DISTANCE. IT WILL BE A BIG PLUS FOR THE HOUSING AUTHORITY. I'VE BEEN THERE FOR SEVERAL YEARS AND EVER SINCE I WAS TRAINED AND COMMISSIONED BY HUD. I WANT TO SEE THINGS HAPPEN. I DON'T WANT TO JUST SIT ON THE BOARD AND DO NOTHING. I THINK THE PUBLIC HOUSING HAS BENEFITED ME FOR A LONG TIME.

TRAINING PEOPLE, IS ONE OF THE BEST THINGS YOU CAN GIVE THEM. TRAINING THEM ON HOW TO GET OUT OF PUBLIC HOUSING AND DON'T LET THEIR CHILDREN GROW UP IN IT. THERE IS A MEANS FOR PEOPLE WHO FALL DOWN AND DON'T HAVE ANYTHING ELSE TO DO, HAVE SOMETHING TO HELP THEM GET ON THEIR FEET. BUT WE NEED A FACILITY TO DO THE TRAINING WHERE WE DON'T HAVE TO TRAVEL SO MANY MILES TO GO TO IT. SO I APPRECIATE YOU LOOKING AT THIS AND TAKING A LOOK AT IT. I HAVE A PASSION FOR THIS HOUSING AUTHORITY.

EVER SINCE I WAS APPOINTED BY YOU TO BE ON THE BOARD. MY HEART GOES OUT TO YOU.

I WANT TO DO WHATEVER I CAN'T SWELL. SO I APPRECIATE YOU, THANK YOU

FOR YOUR TIME. >> THANK YOU SIR. >> WE HAVE HAD SOME DISCUSSIONS ABOUT THAT SUBJECT AND HOW IMPORTANT IT IS TO GET PEOPLE IN THERE AND LET OTHER PEOPLE GET IN THERE. SO I THINK THE TRAINING IS A GOOD ASPECT OF THAT.

WELL DONE COMMISSIONER COMMISSIONER FOR BRINGING THAT TO OUR ATTENTION.

>> OKAY. >> HAVE ANOTHER ONE. I'M SORRY.

[7. CONSENT AGENDA]

>> ON TO THE CONSENT AGENDA. TO HAVE A MOTION. >> I HAVE APPROVAL.

>> I HAVE A SECOND PAIR. >> I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND PERIOD.

>> WE WILL NOW TAKE THE ROLE. >> ON TUESDAYS MADE RESOLUTIONS. THIS IS A QUASIJUDICIAL FINAL

[8.1 Quasi-judicial - FINAL PLAT APPROVAL - COTTAGES AT AMELIA TOWNHOMES ]

PLAT APPROVAL COTTAGES AT A MILLION TOWNHOMES. >> YES THIS WILL BE VOTED ON TONIGHT. WE WILL HAVE A BRIEF JUDICIAL PROCEDURE.

THIS IS A PLAT/REPLIED AND WE WILL HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING IN ACCORDANCE WITH STATE LAW.

AND WHAT THAT MEANS IS FIRST KELLY GIBSON WILL MAKE A PRESENTATION.

THEN THE APPLICANT WILL MAKE A PRESENTATION. >> BOTH PARTIES, THEY WILL CALL WITNESSES AND THEY WILL CROSS-EXAMINE EACH OTHER. AND YOU CAN TAKE AN OATH WITH THE PARTIES YOU ARE A RESIDENT OF THE CITY. SO AND IT MUST BE RELEVANT TO TO THE PLAT APPROVAL AND THE SECTIONS AND IT MUST BE SUBSTANTIAL.

SO JUST A LAY OPINION ABOUT, AND THIS CASE A PLAT OR NEIGHBORHOOD CREATING MORE TRAFFIC, THAT IS A SIMPLE EXAMPLE IT IS NOT RELEVANT TO EVIDENCE BECAUSE YOU DON'T HAVE ANY EXPERTISE IN THAT. IF YOU DO PLEASE STATE THAT YOU DO AND WE WILL WEIGH THE EVIDENCE. IF THERE IS AN APPEAL OF THE DECISION, IT HAS TO BE FILED WITH THE CIRCUIT COURT WITHIN 30 DAYS OF THE BOARD'S DECISION. THEY WILL ISSUE A FINDING, I THINK THE MAYOR WILL SIGNED IT TONIGHT OR TOMORROW. ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE

MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC. >> THE CITY WILL ADMINISTER THE OATH, AND PLEASE STAND.

>> DO YOU SWEAR TO AFFIRM THE STATEMENTS THAT YOU WILL PRESENT DURING THIS PUBLIC HEARING WILL

BE ACCURATE YES. >> AND I REMIND YOU EX PARTE ME COMMUNICATIONS WITH THE CITY OR

[02:05:01]

>> WE MET A COUPLE OF DAYS AGO AND WENT OVER IT. >> WELCOME.

>> GOOD EVENING. >> THIS EVENING I WILL RELY ON THE MATERIALS THAT YOU HAVE BEEN PROVIDED AS PART OF THE AGENDA ITEM. THIS EVENING YOU ARE CONSIDERING A FINAL PLAT APPROVAL FOR THE TOWNHOMES. THESE WILL BE IN TEN.

>> UNIT BUILDINGS. I WILL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU HAVE.

>> DOES THE APPLICANT HAVE ANYTHING? >> I WILL RELY ON THE

APPLICATION FOR ANY COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS. >> TO HAVE A MOTION?

>> YES. I WOULD LIKE TO SAY IT MEETS THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. AND SUBSTANTIAL EVIDENCE. WE NEED TO APPROVE THIS, THE ONLY THING I AM DISAPPOINTED AND I THAT THROUGH THE DISCUSSIONS YEARS AGO AND, ALL OF THAT WAS GEARED FOR MIXED USE. BUT IT IS COMMERCIALLY NOT VIABLE.

THIS IS ANOTHER EXAMPLE WHY IT IS SO DIFFICULT TO USE MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT IN THE COMMUNITY.

MANY YEARS AGO, IF YOU WENT TO THE OTHER COUNTRIES WHERE THEY HAVE A STORE IN THE FRONT, A LOT WERE DESIGNED WITH THE OWNER BUT THAT DOESN'T EXIST IN THIS COUNTRY.

THIS MIXED USE IDEA THAT WE KEEP COMING TO WE MAY HAVE TO GO BACK TO THAT.

IT DOES SEEM TO BE VERY EFFECTIVE. >> I RECOMMEND APPROVAL.

>> DID YOU RECOMMEND APPROVAL. >> I DID MAKE A MOTION. >> I RECOMMEND APPROVAL.

>> I WILL SECOND APPEAR. >> I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND PERIOD.

>> WE WILL NOW TAKE THE ROLE. >> THANK YOU. >> I DO WANT TO MAKE NOTE OF THE FACT THAT ONE YEAR AGO WE WERE IN THESE CHAMBERS TALKING ABOUT CODE ENFORCEMENT FINES FOR THE PROPERTY THAT WAS THERE. SO THIS IS THE RESULT. I KNOW MORE PEOPLE AND CARS ARE

NOT ALWAYS GOOD BUT I THINK IT IS BETTER THAN WHAT WAS THERE. >> OKAY, A .2, DENTAL INSURANCE

[8.2 DENTAL INSURANCE COVERAGE – UNITED HEALTH CARE ]

COVERAGE THROUGH UNITED HEALTHCARE. >> AS PART OF THE CITY'S ANNUAL BUDGET PROCESS THE CITY REVIEWED AND PUT OUT DENTAL BENEFITS AND WE RECEIVED A PROPOSAL FROM UNITED HEALTHCARE WHICH IS NOT THE CURRENT PROVIDER. WHICH RESULTED IN A SAVINGS OF

$20,000 TO THE CITY. STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL. >> DO YOU RECOGNIZE THAT CLIQUES

>> PROVIDING THE SAME COVERAGE FOR STAFF. >> IS ACTUALLY BETTER COVERAGE AT A LOWER COST. THAT WAS STRICTLY DENTAL INSURANCE.

CAN'T I RECOMMEND APPROVAL. >> IPO MOTION AND A SECOND. COUNTY CLERK WILL YOU CALL THE

ROLL. >> THE ROLE IS BEING CALLED. >> ITEM 8.3.

[8.3 BUDGET AMENDMENT - MARINA]

THIS IS A BUDGET AMENDMENT MARINA. >> THIS IS AN EXTENSION OF THE TEMPORARY EMPLOYMENT STATUS. IT IS TAKING LONGER THAN PLANNED SO THIS PROVIDES FOR HER WAGES

AND BENEFITS FOR THE BALANCE OF THE FISCAL YEAR. >> MOVED TO APPROVE.

>> I SECOND PAIR. >> I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. MADAME CLERK PLEASE CALL THE

ROLE. >> -- ROLL. >> ITEM A .4.

[8.4 LITIGATION AUTHORIZATION - OCEAN, HIGHWAY AND PORT AUTHORITY (OHPA) ]

-- THIS IS AS YOU KNOW WE HAD A PUBLIC MEDIATION WITH THE OCEAN HIGHWAY PORT AUTHORITY ON

JULY 15. >> IT SEEMS LIKE IT WAS LONGER. >> YES IT DOES BEAR.

>> IT WAS JULY 15, JUST A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO. IT RESULTED IN AN IMPASSE.

WE CHATTED BRIEFLY AND WE TALKED ABOUT WHAT TO DO NEXT. YOU DROP IT OR FILE SUIT.

[02:10:01]

PROSECUTE OR FILE A LAWSUIT OR PENALIZE IT. >> THANK YOU.

I WILL TELL YOU, IN TERMS OF COST, WE WILL HAVE A LITTLE HELP FROM OUTSIDE TO DO HEAVY LIFTING WITH DISCOVERY AND PLEADINGS BUT I WILL BE THE PRIMARY COUNSEL THAT HANDLES IT AND THAT WILL SAVE A LOT OF MONEY. WE WILL SEE WHERE IT GOES. ALSO, AND I THINK I SHOULD MENTION IT I SENT YOU ALL A LETTER THAT I DRAFTED TO THE PORT AUTHORITY.

I MENTIONED IT A COUPLE OF MEETINGS AGO TO REMIND YOU OF OTHER ISSUES WE HAVE.

I DID RECEIVE AN E-MAIL BACK FROM THE ATTORNEY THAT SAID HE WILL PRESENT THIS TO THE BOARD.

AND I BELIEVE THAT MEETING IS NEXT WEDNESDAY AND HE WILL GET BACK TO ME WITH A RESPONSE.

I DIDN'T NECESSARILY WRISTS EXPECT A RESPONSE BECAUSE THE RECORD IS PUBLIC.

THE TONE WAS PLEASE FOLLOW ALONG, WE PLAN WE UNDERSTAND YOU ARE PLANNING TO DO A MASTER PLAN AND PLEASE DON'T DO THAT, PLEASE FOLLOW ALONG. WE WON'T SIT HERE AND TAKE IT IF YOU CONTINUE TO PROGRESS WITH YOUR PLANS FOR EXPANDING WITHOUT COMING TO THE CITY.

I REMINDED THEM THAT WE ARE IN CONTACT WITH MANY PEOPLE AND THAT IS NOT AN EXAGGERATION.

THAT WAS AT THE PUBLIC HEARING SERVING AND THEY KNOW WHAT WE ALL AGREED ON WHAT OUR

PREDECESSORS AGREED ON. >> THANK YOU. MEN THANK YOU.

I WOULD LIKE TO BRING ATTENTION TO AN ELEMENT ON WEDNESDAY, WITH THE NEWS LATER.

I JUST WANT TO READ THE END OF IT HAS TO DO WITH THIS VERY ISSUE.

IT TALKS ABOUT HOW THE HISTORY OF ALL OF THIS AND THE PORT AUTHORITY NOW SAYS THE $50,000 ANNUAL PUT PAYMENT WAS NEVER MEANT TO BE A GRATUITY THEY ARE WRONG.

HOW DO THEY RECONCILE THAT THEY AGREED TO PAY THE CITY AN ANNUAL AMOUNT FOR SERVICES RENDERED IN LIEU OF TAXES AND THEY STILL EXIST, WE WILL HAVE THEM ALWAYS EXISTS SO THE ANNUAL PAYMENT HAS TO BE ONGOING. I KNOW ALL PLAYERS WERE NOT THERE WHEN THE AGREEMENT WAS NEGOTIATED SO PORT AUTHORITY HAS COMLETE IGNORANCE I WAS THERE AND I KNOW THE AGREEMENT WAS

MUTUAL AND BINDING WITH THAT I WILL PROPOSE THAT WE -- >> I THINK THAT WAS A MOTION.

>> I SECOND THE MOTION. THE RECOGNIZE THAT. >> I MET WITH BUDDY JACOBS ON FRIDAY WHO NEGOTIATED THE AGREEMENT, AND SAID, THE INTENT WAS FOR GRATUITY SO WE HAVE TWO EXPERT WITNESSES WHO WERE INVOLVED IN NEGOTIATING THE DEAL, UNFORTUNATELY -- UNFORTUNATELY HE CAN'T HELP BECAUSE HE REPRESENTED THE PORT AT THE TIME.

>> DO WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. >> METAL CAR CAN YOU CALL THE

ROLL. >> CALLED THE ROLL. >> ITEM A .5 THE SOLE-SOURCE

[8.5 SOLE SOURCE VENDOR APPROVAL - MARINA UTILITIES, INC. ]

VENDOR APPROVAL. >> THIS IS A REQUEST FOR $15,000.

IT IS TO PROVIDE PROTECTION FOR THE DOCK LETTER IN TWO. THIS PROJECT WAS NOT INCLUDED IN THE BUDGET. WE HAVE UTILIZED THIS VENDOR FROM OTHER WORK ON THE AGENDA.

>> I RECOMMEND APPROVAL. >> I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND PERIOD MADAME CLERK PLEASE CALL THE ROLL. TEN ALL RIGHT ITEM 8.6 SOLE-SOURCE VENDOR APPROVAL.

[8.6 SOLE SOURCE VENDOR APPROVAL – CHAMPION TURF, LLC ]

>> THIS IS RELATED TO THE IMPROVEMENTS ON THE NORTHERN COURSE.

THIS IS FOR THE ACTUAL GRASS FOR THE RENOVATION OF THE GREENS AND A PRACTICE AREA NOT TO EXCEED

$25,000. >> THANK YOU SIR. >>> MOVE TO APPROVE.

>> I WILL SECOND PERIOD. >> I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND PERIOD MADAM SECRETARY CAN YOU

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CALL THE ROLL. >> SO THIS GOES TO YOU BUT IT IS NOT ATTACHED.

>> THAT IS INFORMATION THAT I GAVE TO THE COMMISSIONER BECAUSE I BELIEVE, THEY SAID WE DON'T

UPLOAD THOSE VIA THE AGENDA. >> I THINK THIS IS A CRITICAL ISSUE THAT SHOULD BE UPLOADED.

>> OTHERWISE WE DON'T KNOW IF THE JUSTIFICATION. >> MADAME CLERK CAN YOU PLEASE

CALL THE ROLE -- ROLL. >> ITEM NUMBER 8.7. >> THIS IS FOR THE DRIVING RANGE

[8.7 CHANGE ORDER APPROVAL - DL HOLLAND CONTRACTORS ]

SO THIS WORK WAS DONE BY CITY STAFF. THE SHIFTING OF THE MATERIAL.

SO THIS IS A REQUEST IN THE AMOUNT OF $26,000 NEEDED TO COMPLETE THE PROJECT.

>> I RECOMMEND A NEW APPROVAL. >> I HEAR A MOTION AND A SECOND. TEN JUST TO GET ON RECORD THE $26,000 IS FROM OUR CONVERSATION WITH MR. MARTIN. NOT OVERBUDGET.

THIS IS WITHIN BUDGET. >> CORRECT IF YOU REMEMBER THE TOP BUDGET INCLUDING IMPROVEMENTS WAS $495,000. WE PLAN ON STAYING WELL WITHIN THAT LIMIT.

>> AND MADAME CLERK, PLEASE CALL THE ROLL. >> ITEM NUMBER A .7.

CHANGE ORDER APPROVAL FOR CONTRACTORS. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

[9. ORDINANCES - FIRST READING ]

EMERGENCY POWERS. >> YES. >> IN ORDINANCE 2020 -- 27 IN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY COMMISSION OF FERNANDINA BEACH, FLORIDA BY ADDING A SECTION TO BE NUMBERED 2-2 ENUMERATING PROCEDURES FOR DECLARATION OF LOCAL STATE OF EMERGENCY AND EMERGENCY POWERS, BY ADDING A SECTION TO BE NUMBERED FOR VIOLATIONS PUTTING PEOPLE ON NOTICE FOR PENALTY PROVISIONS. BY ADDING THIS SECTION TO BE NUMBERED 2-3 PROVIDING FOR TERMINATION OF A LOCAL STATE OF EMERGENCY, PROVIDING SEVERE ABILITY, AND PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE. THIS IS NEW. MOST CITIES HAVE IT IN THEIR EMERGENCY POWERS AND WHO EXERCISES THE POWER. WE HAVE NOT HAD THAT THAT I CAN TELL. THAT MEANS, BY STATE LAW, THE POWERS, OUR CITY COMMISSION AND THEY CAN ONLY ACT THROUGH A QUORUM AND OUT OF PUBLIC MEETING.

THERE ARE SOME EXCEPTIONS FOR EMERGENCY EXCEPTIONS BUT THEN YOU HAVE TO COME BACK.

THIS WOULD PROVIDE THE CITY MANAGER AND MAYOR TOGETHER AND JOINTLY AND ONLY JOINTLY WOULD BE ABLE TO DECLARE A STATE OF EMERGENCY AND BE ABLE TO PUT A CURFEW IN PLACE AND THINGS LIKE THAT AS NEEDED. IN THIS TOWN WE DON'T GET TO DO ANYTHING UNDERCOVER.

THE CITY COMMISSION DOES NOT REQUIRE YOU TO TAKE ACTION SO WINGS LIKE THAT COULD BE EXECUTED BY THE MAYOR AND PUT IN PLACE BY THE MANAGER AND MAYOR. THAT IS WHAT I AM PROPOSING.

MANY PLACES, LIKE OURS, THE MAYOR ALONE EXERCISES THOSE POWERS AND I FIND IT USEFUL THAT THEY BOTH DO THAT. ONE OF THE THINGS I AM STILL WORKING OUT IN THE PENALTIES PROVISION IS ADDING, THIS IS THE MISDEMEANOR THAT WE KNOW ABOUT. THAT IS WHAT WE HAVE HEARD ABOUT IN THAT CONTEXT. THAT INCLUDES THESE PENALTIES AND THEY ARREST POWERS, AND THE CRIMINAL COURTS AND I HAVE ADDED FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION, AND ADDITIONAL CIVIL CITATION

[02:20:03]

SO FOR YOUR CONVINCE -- CONSIDERATION WE RECOMMEND YOUR APPROVAL.

>> I HAVE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS. I GUESS WE SHOULD'VE TALKED ABOUT THIS THIS MORNING BUT WE DIDN'T. ON PAGE TWO UNDER C IT SAYS CONFISCATE PROPERTY TO ALLEVIATE THIS. I'M NOT SURE IF THEY SHOULD HAVE THE POWER TO CONFISCATE THINGS.

NUMBER TWO, ON D, I READ THAT A COUPLE OF TIMES AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT MEANS.

IT LOOKS LIKE ONE BIG LONG RUN-ON SENTENCE. >> AND FINALLY UNDER D4, EMPLOYEE WORKERS I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THAT BUT I THINK PERMANENT, UNDER EMERGENCY, YOU

SHOULD NOT BE HIRING PERMANENT WORKERS. >> SO THOSE ARE MY COMMENTS.

>> YOU KNOW I DIDN'T MAKE ANY OF THIS UP. THIS COMES AS I LOOK AT THE CITY. AND ACTUALLY, WHERE I USED TO WORK ON THE WEST COAST, THEY HAVE ABOUT 120,000 RESIDENTS AND I THOUGHT THEY WERE SIMPLE. BUT I DON'T DISAGREE IF YOU WANT TO MAKE THOSE CHANGES. I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM. MY QUESTION IS, DO YOU THINK IT WILL WORK, WHEN THE MAYOR AND THE CITY MANAGER DON'T AGREE WHAT HAPPENS.

WE DON'T HAVE AN EMERGENCY. >> THAT'S WHEN IT COMES TO. >> THIS WILL TAKE THIS WILL TAKE AWAY ANY OF THEIR POWERS. AND YOU WANT TO DO IT TOMORROW, BUT IF THEY DON'T AGREE, THEN IT WILL COME TO THE COMMISSION AND IF YOU WISH I COULD PUT THAT IN THEIR.

I THINK THAT WOULD BE GOOD FOR US. >> I DON'T SEE THAT HAPPENING

BUT IT COULD HAPPEN. >> IF HE COULD. >> MOVED TO APPROVE.

>> SECOND PERIOD. >> I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND PAIR.

>> I'M SORRY. >> AND TO BE CLEAR FOR THE RECORD, THAT WOULD BE NUMBERED

2C. AND PERMANENTLY UNDER D4. >> AND DO SOMETHING THAT WORKS

SO IT IS READABLE. >> I HAVE IT. >> AND, TO CLARIFY, YES.

WHO WAS THE SECOND ON THAT. >> YOU AGREE WITH THE CHANGE? SANCHEZ.

AND MADAME CLERK CAN YOU CALLED THE BOATS. >> COMMISSIONER ROSS.

MR. CHAPMAN, LEDNOVICH, MILLER,. >> YES. ITEM NUMBER 10.1 CHARTER

[10. ORDINANCE - SECOND READING]

AMENDMENT. >> ORDINANCE 2020 -- 22 AMENDING ORDINANCE 20 -- 19 -- 2019 -- 15 SUBMITTING TO THE CITY LECTURERS PROPOSED AMENDMENTS TO THE CHARTER WHICH AMEND SECTION 10H TO PROHIBIT SALE OR LEASE OF A CITY-OWNED CONSERVATION LAND AND TO FURTHER RESTRICT SALE OR LEASE OF RECREATION FACILITIES PROVIDING FOR SEVERE ABILITY AND PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE.

>> THIS IS A LONG TIME COMING. I MOVED TO APPROVE. >> I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND

PAIR. >> MADAME CLERK, PLEASE CALL THE BOAT.

>> I WANTED TO REMIND YOU ALL, THAT IT IS PROHIBITED BY STATE LAW FOR THE CITY TO COLLECTIVELY GET BEHIND, THIS WILL BE ON THE NOVEMBER 3 BALLOT AS THE ONLY REPRIMAND HIM AND QUESTION THE

[02:25:06]

>> THANK YOU. >> ARE YOU SAYING -- >> YOU ARE NOT RECOGNIZED OR.

>> ARE YOU SAYING WE CAN'T ENDORSE IT. >> INDIVIDUALLY WE CAN'T USE CITY RESOURCES. CAN SO I CAN SAY MAKE SURE YOU BOTH.

>> YES YOU CAN SAVE IT AS AN INDIVIDUAL. DON'T DO IT FROM A PODIUM.

>> I CAN SAY I AM JOHNNY. >> IS BACK CLEAR, ANY QUESTIONS. I JUST WANT YOU TO KNOW YOU

DON'T HAVE TO BE HUSH-HUSH. >> DON'T WRITE ANYTHING IN THE PAPER ABOUT IT, BUT YOU CAN

ADVOCATE IT SOME. >> HOW? SAID CHILD.

SOMETHING I THOUGHT WAS CRYSTAL CLEAR. >> I THINK IF YOU WRITE AN EDITORIAL AS A COMMISSIONER SOMEONE CAN MAKE THE COMPLAINT. WILL YOU GET PROSECUTED FOR DOING THAT AND VIOLATING STATE LAW, PROBABLY NOT. I JUST THINK IT IS BAD FORM FOR THE CITY COMMISSIONER TO PUT SOMETHING IN THE PAPER. WHEN YOU ARE TALKING ONE ON ONE THAT IS FINE BUT NOT OF THE PAPER. AND I DON'T HAVE THE REASONS BUT

I CAN THINK OF THEM AND GET BACK TO YOU TOMORROW. >> CAN YOU ADVOCATE IT, AND A

BOLDER FORM IF YOU ARE A CANDIDATE? >> YES, YOU CAN SAY I AM IN

FAVOR. ABSOLUTELY. >> IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS,.

>> IT IS A FINE LINE. THE LAW, I WILL SEND IT TO YOU TOMORROW SO YOU CAN READ IT YOURSELF. THE LAW AND THE STATUTES THAT YOU CAN'T AS A GROUP, USE CITY

RESOURCES, TO ADVOCATE FOR A CHARTER AMENDMENT. >> OKAY.

>> SO THE REASON I AM SHAKING MY HEAD IS COMMISSIONER ROSS, CAN TELL THEM INDIVIDUALLY, IF HE CAN APPEAR IN A GROUP AND SUGGEST THEY SUPPORT IT, HOW DOES THAT DIFFER FROM WRITING A LETTER TO THE NEWSPAPER AND SAYING PLEASE SUPPORT THIS AS AN INDIVIDUAL COMMISSIONER.

I DON'T UNDERSTAND THE DISTINCTION. >> LET ME SEND YOU SOME OF THE

OPINIONS I HAVE ON THE SUBJECT. IT IS A SLIPPERY SLOPE. >> THANK YOU.

>> ABSOLUTELY. >> TECHNICALLY WE ARE ALL ON PAYROLL.

>> THAT IS THE POINT. WE ARE CITY EMPLOYEES BECAUSE WE ARE BEING PAID BY THE CITY.

SO IF WE SAY IT, YOU PROBABLY WANT TO PUT SOMETHING BEHIND IT LIKE I APPROVE THIS MESSAGE.

>> I WILL SEND YOU WHAT I KNOW IN TERMS OF THE LAW AND THE ATTORNEY GENERAL AND YOU CAN MAKE YOUR OWN DECISIONS. IF IT WERE ME, ANYTHING THAT SAYS COMMISSIONER ATTACHED TO IT

I WILL NOT ADVOCATE IT. THAT IS JUST MYSELF. >> IF I HAVE ANY QUESTIONS I WILL ALWAYS CALL TO MAKE SURE. AND I WILL SEND IT TO THE TALLAHASSEE ETHICS PERSON.

>> IF YOU HAVE A QUESTION YOU'RE NOT TOO SURE ABOUT THIS A PERSON IN TALLAHASSEE.

>> YES. THERE ARE SEVERAL PEOPLE. >> AND SHE WAS VERY IMPRESSED WHEN I CALLED. TELL HER SHE'S DOING A GREAT JOB BECAUSE WE NEVER GET PHONE CALLS LIKE THIS. WE USUALLY GET THEM AFTER IT HAPPENS.

AND IT IS TOO LATE. >>> OKAY WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND PERIOD WE ALREADY CALLED

[11. BOARD APPOINTMENT AIRPORT ADVISORY COMMISSION - one appointment.]

THE ROLL. >>> THIS WILL BE BOARD APPROVALS.

ELEVEN -- NUMBER 11.1 IS THE ADVERSITY -- AIRPORT ADVISORY. >> I RECOMMEND APPROVAL.

>> I SECOND PERIOD. >> WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND PAIR.

>> MADAME CLERK PLEASE CALL THE BOAT -- ROLL. >> IF I PAUSE THAT IS BECAUSE I

SEE SOMEONE MOVING. I WAS WAITING TO SEE. >> ITEM NUMBER 12.

[12. CITY MANAGER REPORTS]

CITY MANAGER REPORTS. >> LET ME BUILD ON WHAT SHE WAS SAYING ABOUT IT FROM A

[02:30:09]

YOU ALL KNOW OF NORMAL PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY TO ADVOCATE ON YOUR BEHALF.

SO IT'S BETTER TO HIGHROAD CENTER BEHIND OF SOME OF YOUR FIND SOMEONE WHO CAN ADVOCATE ON

YOUR BEHALF INSTEAD OF HAVING TO DEFEND YOURSELF. >> WE HAVE A BUNCH OF WORKSHOPS SCHEDULED TOMORROW AT 6:00 P.M. SAME TIME. WE HAVE A CARRIERS MEETING.

WE WERE INVITED TO THE COUNTY TO TALK ABOUT THE PROJECT FOR THE CARES FUNDING.

THAT IS THURSDAY AFTERNOON. SO WE WILL BE OUT AT THE COUNTY ON THURSDAY AFTERNOON.

WE DO HAVE ANOTHER BUDGET WORKSHOP SCHEDULED FOR A WEEK FROM THIS EVENING, TUESDAY, AUGUST 11 AT 6:00 P.M. AND THEN MY LAST NOTE WAS THE ATHLETIC FIELDS AND YOU GAVE ME THE NOTES ON THAT. I WILL ADVISE THE YOUTH SOCCER GROUP NOTE ACTIVITIES UNTIL OCTOBER THAT'S RIGHT AUGUST 24 AND THEN WE WILL REEVALUATE. PENDING ANY QUESTIONS THAT'S ALL

I HAVE TO SEE ME. >> WE ARE GOOD TO GO AS FAR AS. ORIGINALLY GOING TO EXTEND IT.

>> THANK YOU SIR. >> CITY ATTORNEY. >> I DON'T HAVE ANY REPORTS

THANK YOU. JANE CITY CLERK. >> THANK YOU.

[15. MAYOR/COMMISSIONER COMMENTS]

>> MR. ROSS HERE. >> I ONLY HAVE ONE THING. THIS COMING SATURDAY, THE NASSAU CHRISTIAN LEADERSHIP CONFERENCE IS HAVING A TOWN HALL MEETING ON AUGUST 8, AT THE FAIRGROUNDS FROM 9:00 A.M. UNTIL 1:00 P.M. THE TOPIC AT HAND, CANDIDATE FOR JUDGE, SUPERINTENDENT FOR SCHOOLS, SUPER VISOR AND CITY COMMISSIONERS WILL BE IN ATTENDANCE.

PLEASE HAVE YOUR QUESTIONS PREPARED. AND MORE INFORMATION AT THEIR WEBSITE. I THINK THAT IS A GOOD FORUM. SO IF YOU CAN ATTEND THAT IS GOOD. THE SECOND THING IS, REMEMBER EARLY BURNING HAS STARTED.

-- EARLY VOTING HAS STARTED. >> I JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU TO ALL OF YOU WHO ARE WEARING A

MASK. >> I WILL BE ATTENDING THE AUGUST 11, MEETING VIA ZOOM FROM

CHICAGO. I WILL SEE YOU ON THE SCREEN. >> I WILL DRIVE IN PURE.

>> THE MEETING IN CHICAGO. >> MAYOR KREGER? >> SATURDAY 8-10 IS THE FOOD GIVEAWAY. IT IS MOVED UP AN HOUR BECAUSE OF THE WEATHER.

SUNDAY, 6-8:00 P.M., THE ASSOCIATION IS GIVING AWAY SCHOOL SUPPLIES IN THE PARKING LOT AT THE TECH CENTER. BOTH OF THESE ARE DRIVES AND PEOPLE DON'T GET OUT OF THE CAR

AND EVERYONE WEARS A MASK. >> I WANT TO THANK THE CITY CLERK, AGAIN THE PROCLAMATION TONIGHT I THOUGHT WAS A DIFFICULT WON BUT HEARTFELT AND NECESSARY.

I THINK IT WAS DONE IN THE EXACT RIGHT WAY. SO GOOD JOB AS USUAL.

AND MAKE SURE THE SUPPORT YOU GIVE TO THE CHAIR. THE THINGS YOU DO.

THANK YOU SO MUCH. >> THANK YOU. >>> AND MAYOR KREGER, IS THAT

THE GRATEFUL DEAD QUICKSAND YES. >> I WANT TO CONGRATULATE HIM ON BEING COOLER THAN I AM.

WELL DONE SIR. >> AND JUST REALLY QUICKLY TO TOUCH BASE, HOW'S EVERYONE DOING

IS EVERYONE OKAY? IS EVERYTHING OKAY? >> YES, THANK YOU.

>> I'M GLAD TO BE EVERYONE'S ALL

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