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>> MADAME CLERK CAN YOU CALL THE ROLE.> MAYOR MILLER, VICE MAYOR, COMMISSIONER ROSS,

COMMISSIONER CHAVEZ. >> THANK YOU. IF WE GET ALSO THE PLEDGE OF

ALLEGIANCE. >> OF PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA INTO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION, UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.

[4.1 TENTATIVE MILLAGE RATE FOR FY 2020/2021]

OKAY ITEM 4.1.HIS IS THE MILLAGE RATE FOR 20 TO 21. THIS IS SET FOR OPERATING EXPENSES FOR FISCAL YEAR 2021. AND SETTING THE TENTATIVE FOR VOTER APPROVED DEBT SERVICE AND PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE. YOUR RECOGNIZERS.

>> THANK YOU VERY JUST A MATTER OF ORDER OF HOW WE WILL DISCUSS THIS IN PUBLIC COMMENT IS NOT ON THE AGENDA. WHAT IS YOUR PLEASURE AT WHAT POINT TO TAKE PUBLIC COMMENT.

>> I WILL PUT IT FOR DISCUSSION. IF NOBODY HAS ANYTHING TO SAY OR WANT TO SAY THINGS I THINK WE SHOULD DO THAT FIRST AND THEN LET PUBLIC COMMENT AND

THAT WE WILL HAVE A DISCUSSION AGAIN FOLLOWING PUBLIC COMMENT. >> I WILL MAKE MY FIRST OPENING

COMMENT. >> YOU ARE RECOGNIZED. >> AS A PUBLICLY STATED SEVERAL MEETINGS AGO, THE ONLY VOTE I WILL CAST WILL BE FOR THE ROLLBACK RATE AND I WILL NOT SUPPORT ANY OF THE RATE OTHER THAN ROLLBACK. HERE IS THE REASON, THE CITY COMMISSION CANNOT OPERATE BUSINESS AS USUAL. ANYBODY WHO'S BEEN IN THE CITY THE LAST SIX MONTHS AND NO, KNOWS THIS IS BUSINESS AS UNUSUAL.

THE UNEMPLOYMENT RATE CAME OUT TODAY IT LOCALLY IN THE CHAMBER AND MR. MAYOR YOU POSTED ON

YOUR SITE AND IT WAS 13 POINT. >> 125. >> OF 13 PERCENT UNEMPLOYMENT IN THE COUNTY. EVERY DAY WE SEE QUARTERLY EARNINGS OF COMPANIES LOSING BILLIONS OF DOLLARS. I BELIEVE WERE LIVING IN A FALSE ECONOMY THAT IS BEING PROPPED UP BY THE BAILOUTS. HOW LONG CAN THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT BE WRITING TRILLION DOLLAR TAX, NOT VERY LONG, I CAN TELL YOU. SO WE ARE IN UNCHARTED WATERS AND WE ARE SEEING REVENUE FIGURES 40 TO 60 PERCENT DOWN IN THE TOURIST DEVELOPMENT COUNCIL HAS ADJUSTED THEIR BUDGET TO MORE THAN 50 PERCENT. SO WE HAVE TO WATCH EVERY PENNY BECAUSE WE DON'T KNOW THE WATERS IN FRONT OF US. SECONDLY, PEOPLE ARE TIRED.

THEY ARE JUST FLAT WORN OUT. AND IT IS INTERESTING. THERE WAS AN ARTICLE 1 OF THE PAGES THAT I READ TODAY AND IT'S OF ONE OF THE BYPRODUCTS OF COVID IS ANGER.

AND WE ARE SEEING MORE ANGER IN OUR SOCIETY BECAUSE WE ARE FLAT WORN OUT AND YOU KNOW WHAT, IT IS TIME TO LOWER OUR TAXES AND GIVE PEOPLE A BREAK. AND THE CITY NEEDS TO LEARN TO LIVE WITHIN ITS MEANS. WE HAVE A PROFESSIONAL CITY MANAGER WE HAVE A PROFESSIONAL COMPTROLLER AND WE HAVE PROFESSIONAL DEPARTMENT HEADS AND WE NEED TO SAY THIS IS THE AMOUNT OF MONEY GET, FIGURE IT OUT. COME BACK AND TELL US HOW YOU WILL RUN THE CITY ON THIS AMOUNT OF MONEY. SO MY ONLY VOTE IN FAVOR WILL BE FOR ROLLBACK. I WILL NOT VOTE FOR ANY OTHER MILLAGE RATE.

THANK YOU, MAYOR. >> VICE MAYOR YOU ARE RECOGNIZED.

>> I STATED A LONG TIME AGO THAT I WILL SUPPORT NOTHING BUT THE ROLLBACK ALSO.

THERE'S A LOT OF REASONS MIKE MENTIONED THE UNEMPLOYMENT, PEOPLE LIVING IN POVERTY BUT EVEN WITH MONEY. THIS IS NOT THE TIME WE NEED TO INCUR ANY MORE TAXES.

>> THANK YOU. CITY MANAGER, COMPTROLLER CAN YOU DESCRIBE HOW THAT WORKS AND HOW THE FOOT WORKS IN WILL NEED TO PASS FOR THE MILLAGE RATE.

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>> THE VARIOUS PROPOSED MILLAGE RATES, FOR ANYTHING LOWER THAN THE ADJUSTED ROLLBACK RATE WHICH IS APPROXIMATELY 5.4 MILLS, THAT IS THE MAXIMUM WE CAN REQUIRE WITH THREE VOTES.

IN YOU WOULD NEED ALL FIVE BOATS TO GO TO THE MAXIMUM. >> I SEE NO FURTHER SO WE WILL TAKE PUBLIC COMMENT AND IF YOU HAVE ANY DISCUSSION GENERATED BY THAT, WE WILL DO THAT BEFORE

WE HAVE A MOTION. MR. JACK. >> BECAUSE OF THE FACT THEIR

PEOPLE OUTSIDE, WE JUST NEED TO GIVE A MOMENT. >> CAN YOU WAVE IF YOU HEAR US

OUTSIDE? THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >> THANK YOU ALL.

AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE YOU HAVE A THANKLESS JOB. 2809 OCEAN CT. FRONTAGE AND A BEACH. A FAMILY MEMBER OF THE COMMON SENSE FERNANDINA BEACH GROUP.

A GROUP RESIDENTS SET UP A LOCAL GOVERNMENT THAT EVER SPENDS AND RAISES TAXES AND AVOIDS TRANSPARENCY TO THE VOTERS. THIS IS A GOOD EXAMPLE.

WITH 75 ACTIVE MEMBERS AND 3000 PEOPLE WHO HAVE COMMENTED ON OUR FACEBOOK.

I'M HERE WITH MANY OF OUR MEMBERS. HE SEE THEM.

I THINK THE RAIN MAY HAVE KEPT A FEW AWAY. BUT WHAT OUR INSISTENCE IS TO ELIMINATE NONESSENTIAL SPENDING AND VOTE FOR ROLLBACK RATE. MANY OF US HAVE LOOKED AT THE BUDGET AND TIMES WE SUGGEST THE BUDGET NEEDS TO BE CUT, WE ARE TOLD WE CANNOT CUT POLICE OR FIRE, WE WILL START CLOSING THE PARTS IF WE HAVE TO CUT OUR BUDGET AND THAT IS NOT TRUE.

SO IN LIGHT OF MY NOTES HERE, I HAVE LISTED OUT SEVERAL THINGS THAT ARE SPECIFICALLY IDENTIFYING THE BUDGET THAT I THINK ARE REASONABLE OPPORTUNITIES TO CUT EXPENDITURES THAT COULD GET US FROM THE HIGHER PROPOSAL WAS SUBMITTED FROM THE CITY MANAGER TO ROLLBACK RATE THAT WE CAN DEAL WITH. THAT WILL NOT CREATE MASSIVE HARDSHIPS AND THERE WILL NOT BE CRYING AND WAILING IN THE STREETS.

I WANT TO PUT A COUPLE OF PERSPECTIVES OUT THERE, OVER THE LAST FIVE YEARS PROPERTY TAX RECEIPTS INCREASE 40 PERCENT AND THAT IS AMAZING. I CANNOT BELIEVE SOME OF THESE NUMBERS. THAT IS NOT JUST THIS YEAR BUT IT HAS BEEN GROWING AND IF WE DO THIS AGAIN THIS YEAR IT WILL COMPOUND AND STAFFING INCREASED 33 POSITIONS OVER 3 TO 12 YEARS AND WE SPENT $12 MILLION TO UPGRADE THE MARINA. I WILL LIST AND I WILL SHARE THIS WITH THE OF THE AREAS THAT I THINK WE OUGHT TO LOOK AT AND SEVERAL OF MY COLLEAGUES WILL ALSO TALK ABOUT SPECIFIC THINGS AND I ASK YOU TO TAKE A LOOK AT THOSE AND CONSIDER THEM BECAUSE MOST ARE REASONABLE, ALL OF THEM ARE REASONABLE I THINK. MOST MAY BE REASONABLE TO MOST FOLKS. BUT WHAT WE ARE LOOKING AT, LET'S TRY TO TIGHTEN THE BELT.

WE HAVE LOOKED AT THE NUMBERS AND WE NEED TO DROP THE INCREASES IN THE BUDGET THIS YEAR AND WE NEED TO FOCUS. MY KEY MESSAGES TODAY, WE ASK YOU TO VOTE FOR THE ROLLBACK RATE AND WE ASK YOU TO ELIMINATE NONESSENTIAL SPENDING AND THERE WERE A LOT OF HARDSHIPS IN THIS COMMUNITY. MYSELF INCLUDED IN PEOPLE WHO HAVE HAD ISSUES WITH THEIR OWN BUSINESSES AND ISSUES WITH JOB LOSS AND ISSUES WITH REVENUE REDUCTIONS AND SO THERE IS A LOT OF PAIN AND ANGUISH OUT THERE. THE LAST POINT I WANT TO MAKE IS WE ARE CREATED ROLLBACK BUDGET AS WELL AS TWO OTHER BUDGET LEVELS.

WHEN HE BROUGHT THE BUDGET TO YOU HE ONLY BROUGHT ONE. IT WAS A HIGHER LEVEL AND I AM WONDERING WAS THERE ANY ACCOUNTABILITY FOR THAT. WERE YOU EXPECTING TO GET A ROLLBACK BUDGET RATE OR WERE YOU EXPECTING WHATEVER YOU DELIVER TO YOU.

>> THANK YOU. ANY QUESTIONS? >> I HAVE A COUPLE.

YOU MENTIONED CLOSING PARKS. WHO TALKED ABOUT CLOSING THE PARKS DOWN.

>> WALKED OUT OF THE COMMISSIONER HE SAID WE HAVE TO CUT FIRE AND POLICE ENCLOSED

PARKS. THAT IS THE SOLUTION. >> WHEN YOU SAY NONESSENTIAL SPENDING. WHAT YOU SEND -- CONSIDERATE NONESSENTIAL?

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>> THANK YOU. >> I WILL NEED ONE OF THOSE FOR THE RECORD AS WELL.

>> GOING THROUGH THE LIST, WHAT WE HAVE LOOKED AT AS A BUCCANEER FIELD FENCING, TO DROP IT ENTIRELY OR ELIMINATED BY HALF. THERE IS AN OPPORTUNITY TO DO MINOR REPAIRS RATHER THAN SPEND THAT WHOLE AMOUNT. WE HAVE THE RE-DECKING OF THE NORTH BEACH PARK. THAT IS SOMETHING THAT CAN ALSO BE PREPARED WITH MILD COSTS WITH STAFF AS OPPOSED TO SPENDING THAT AMOUNT OF MONEY. I SOME FOLKS HERE THAT WILL BE TALKING ABOUT THE VEHICLE REPLACEMENTS. I KNOW WE HAVE QUITE A FEW VEHICLES AND REPLACEMENT PLAN AND WE HAVE A REALLY GOOD REPAIR DEPOT.

I HAVE NOT HAD A CHANCE TO GO VISIT THEM PERSONALLY AND I HAVE REQUESTED DETAIL FROM THE REPAIR DEPOT OF WHAT ARE THE ACTUAL COST OF MAINTAINING SOME OF THESE VEHICLES WE HAVE TO REPLACE TO SEE IF THERE IS AN OPPORTUNITY. I'LL HAVE ENOUGH DETAIL BECAUSE WASN'T ABLE TO GET IT FROM THE CITY. ABOUT WHICH VEHICLES MUST BE

REPLACED WHICH SHOULD BE REPLACED. >> ON THAT SUBJECT, I DON'T MEAN TO INTERRUPT YOU.HAT COMES UP QUITE A BIT WHENEVER WE HAVE A BUDGET ITEM REGARDING VEHICLES AND ART DEPARTMENT MANAGER HAS DESCRIBE SEVERAL TIMES ON HE IS VERY FAMILIAR.

A LOT OF TIMES IT'S EASIER AND CHEAPER TO REPLACE VEHICLE THAN TO CONTINUE MAINTENANCE ON THE VEHICLE AND WE ALSO SELL THE VEHICLES IF WE HAVE ON THE MARKET.

I CAN TELL YOU MATT SAID IT JEREMIAH IS PRACTICAL MAKING SURE THE MONEY IS ON PROPERLY

VEHICLE MAINTENANCE VERSUS BUYING VERSUS SELLING. >> THAT IS MAYBE A VEHICLE MAINTENANCE TO DO BUT IS ALSO A FINANCIAL STRATEGY BECAUSE FOR ME TO DRIVE MY CAR'S TENURE STREAM I LEFT WHEN I DROVE IT ON MR. HUNDRED THOUSAND MILES AND IT WAS VIRTUALLY MAINTENANCE FREE. I THINK WE TAKE THAT SAME APPROACH ON HOW MANY MILES IS VEHICLES ARE BEING DRIVEN ON A SMALL ISLAND BUT IT SEEMS LIKE THE MILEAGE IS FAIRLY LOW WHICH MAY GIVE THEM AN OPPORTUNITY. I DON'T HAVE THE DATA BUT IT'S SOMETHING WE SHOULD LOOK OUT IN

THE FINANCIAL ANALYSIS AS WELL AS KEEP MY FLEET CLEAN. >> AND THAT IS WHAT I'M TRYING TO EXPLAIN. HE DOES A GOOD JOB OF THAT. THAT IS A HIDA PART OF THAT DEPARTMENT. I'M SORRY TO GET THAT ANSWER. ONLY HE ASKED BUT IF YOU GIVE

JEREMIAH A CALL HE WILL BE HAPPY TO EXPLAIN THE. >> FOR ME TO REQUEST FOR THE INFORMATION AND IT WAS SUBMITTED AND THEY WERE BOTH DENIED THAT THEY WERE TAKE SO MUCH TIME AND EFFORT YOU WANT A BRAND-NEW SYSTEM TO GET A REPORT DISABLED IS A MAINTENANCE COST AND IT AMAZES ME WE WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO GET A REPORT BUT APPARENTLY WE CAN'T. THAT IS THE MESSAGE WE GET BACK FROM THE REPAIR DEPOT.

HIGH-FIVE SOMETHING. >> REFINISH. >> ONGOING DONE LIST.

>> $20,000 FOR A STRUCTURE OF A FOOTBALL FIELD IS $20,000 IN KITCHEN APPLIANCES FOR THE GOLF COURSE ON THE $27,000 BANKRUPT FLOORING UPDATE AND FOR THE GOLF COURSE AND I'VE ADDED SOME THINGS THAT I THINK WOULD BE PRUDENT IN ORDER FOR THE CITY TO DEAL WITH GETTING US TO THE COST STRUCTURE AND ONE IS A HIRING FREEZE AND MUST NOT HIRE ANY MORE -- WE CAN ASSIGN PEOPLE TO DIFFERENT ROLES AND THERE MAY BE SOME OPPORTUNITIES FOR BUDGET HEADCOUNT AND LAST YEAR WE HAD TWO PEOPLE WHO FROM STREETS, PARKS. WE NEED ALL THOSE FOLKS.

MAYBE WE CAN LET ATTRITION TAPE AMOUNT IF THEY LEAVE AND NOT REHIRE.

THERE ARE SOME OPPORTUNITIES. >> THE STREET DEPARTMENT, THE PARKS DEPARTMENT LOST HER STAFF TO DO PART MAINTENANCE DURING THE RECESSION OF 2006. AND I WAS WORKING FOR THEM DURING THAT TIMEFRAME. THE CITY MANAGER AT THE TIME SAID WHICH REALLY CUT WHEN THINGS GET BETTER AND THEY BEEN STRUGGLING TO GET THAT TO GO BACK.

MAINTAIN THE CITY PARKS AND HAVING A PART OF THE STREETS DEPARTMENT WAS PROBLEMATIC BECAUSE IT WAS TWO SEPARATE AREAS AND IT TOOK MORE STAFFING FOR AN EMPLOYEE FOR THE PARKS DEPARTMENT TO ASSIST THE STREETS DEPARTMENT TO SHOW THEM EXACTLY WHAT TO DO.

NOW YOU HAVE THREE PEOPLE DOING A JOB ONE PERSON CAN DO. THAT HAS BEEN SOMETHING THAT HAS BEEN A STRUGGLE TO GET BACK. I MEAN THAT'S WHAT I'M FAMILIAR

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WITH. >> I THINK THAT IS A FAIR ASSESSMENT AND AFFAIR CONVERSATION WHICH WE SHOULD HAVE VARIED I DID NOT LOOK AT EVERY CATEGORY OF EVERY DEPARTMENT, BUT AS THE COMMISSIONER SAID, I THINK THAT WHAT WE OUGHT TO DO IS ASK OUR DEPARTMENT HEADS. THIS IS SOMETHING AS FROM THE VERY BEGINNING.

AS THE DEPARTMENT HEADS WE CAN YOU CUT 10 PERCENT OR 20 PERCENT BECAUSE THAT IS WHAT BUSINESSES DO AND IT'S A HARD THING TO DO. IT IS NOT THE KIND OF BUSINESS OVER THE LOAVES BUT IT'S ONE OF THE THINGS YOU HAVE TO DO TO SEE WHERE CAN WE CUT SO MAYBE THERE ARE OTHER DEPARTMENTS WE SHOULD LOOK AT. THERE IS ALSO A WATER DEPARTMENT LEADERSHIP POSITION AND MY SUGGESTION IS LEAD IT VACANT.

PUTS MONEY AND ACTING ROLE WE CAN SAY $150,000 A YEAR AND LET'S SEE WHAT WE CAN DO TO TIGHTEN OUR BELTS AND SEE WHAT THE ECONOMY DOES AND IDEALLY IN SIX MONTHS OR YEAR WE WILL BE HEARING THAT ECONOMIES ORIENT AND WE CAN GO BACK ON SOME OF THESE THINGS AND START SPENDING BECAUSE REVENUES ARE THERE. IN THE MEANTIME I THINK WE SHOULD TRIM BACK.

IT IS HURTING FOR PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY AND I THINK THE CITY SHOULD RESPECT THAT SPEND

ACCORDINGLY. >> YOU'RE SAYING YOU DON'T THINK THE WATER DEPARTMENT

SHOULD HAVE A DIRECTOR. >> THAT'S NOT WHAT I SAID. WHAT I SAID IS WE SHOULD PUT SOMEBODY IN ACTING ROLE AS OPPOSED TO HIRING A NEW WATER MANAGER.

SOMEONE WHO IS IN A ROLE WHO HAD A SIMILAR EXPERIENCE WHO CAN BE A BUSINESS MANAGER THAT

WATER DEPARTMENT. >> DOES THAT PERSON EXIST RIGHT NOW.

DO WE HAVE SOMEONE WHO CAN STEP UP AND TAKE THAT JOB? FACTS THERE'S ONLY TWO ENGINEERS ON CITY STAFF IN ONE MR. DENT'S ELITE AND STORMWATER.

NO OTHER ENGINEERS ON STAFF. >> SO TO SET THE RECORD STRAIGHT, MAMA MATERIAL THAT COMMISSIONER ROSS PROVIDED US LAST FRIDAY, IF YOU GET A SECTION E, WHEN NONESSENTIAL SERVICES CAN BE CURTAILED FOR 1,390,000 INCLUDES ONE OR MORE PARTS AND IN THE FACILITIES MAINTENANCE OF THAT IS WHERE THAT COMES FROM AND THIS IS PUBLIC RECORD.

THANK YOU. >> HE RECOGNIZED. >> I WANT TO CLARIFY WHAT WE ARE DOING HERE. WE'RE SETTING AND MILLAGE RATE. IN THE MILLAGE RATE AND NOW WE WILL GO BACK TO THE CITY MANAGER. AND HE WILL COME UP WITH A BUDGET WHICH INCLUDES THE NECESSARY CUTS HOPEFULLY IN MY MIND TO GET TO THAT MILLAGE RATE. SAY WE SET THE ROLLBACKS RATE. THAT IS REALLY WHAT WERE DOING SO ALL THE THINGS PEOPLE ARE GONNA TALK ABOUT OUR VALID IS INVALID FOR VARIOUS REASONS WILL BE CONSIDERED IN THE PROCESS. I WILL COMMENT ON PARKS AND NONESSENTIAL STUFF. A PARK IS JUST AS ESSENTIAL BY A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AS A

POLICE DEPARTMENT. >> NOT IN YOUR CASE AND MAKING THE POINT.

OUR CONFERENCE AND PLAN ESTABLISHES LEVELS OF SERVICE WHICH WE ARE PART AND IS SOMEWHAT OF A LEGAL DOCUMENT. IF YOU GO BACK TO THE RECENT WILDLIFE CASE WHERE THE JUDGE SAYS THIS IS WHAT YOU COMMITTED TO AND RECREATION AND YOU HAVE TO DO IT.

WE WILL GET THAT. EACH CUT, SOME ARE VALID AND SOME DEAL WITH IMPACT TERM ONE FUNDS AND THEY ARE COLLECTED SPECIFICALLY WHEN YOU BUILD YOUR HOUSE.

AND WE WILL GET IN THE CAPITAL EXPENDITURE. THE POINT IS, HOW MANY BUDGET

WORKSHOPS, UP TO FOUR? >> HE CAN HAVE AS MANY AS YOU WANT.

>> THE FIRST BUDGET WORKSHOP IS NEXT WEEK AND THAT IS WHEN EVERYBODY WILL GO THROUGH ALL THESE DIFFERENT THINGS AND MANY I AGREE WITH AND SOME I DON'T. THE CITY MANAGER WILL COME UP WITH A BUDGET BASED ON WHAT WE SAID IS THE MILLAGE RATE. IN HIS DEFENSE, THERE WAS A COMMENT THAT MIKE MADE THAT HE WOULD DO THREE BUDGETS BUT HE NEVER COMMITTED TO ME OR

PUBLICLY THAT HE WOULD DO THOSE THREE BUDGETS. >> I THOUGHT.

>> KNOW HE WILL DO WHATEVER WE SAY IS I APPRECIATE THE CLARIFICATION.THE SECOND PART WHICH WAS MANY OF THOSE COVERED BY OTHER FUNDING, THE KEY THING WE SHOULD LOOK UP IN CAPITAL

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SPENDING IS HOW MUCH WILL IT COST US TO MAINTAIN EACH ONE OF THESE EFFORTS.

HOW MUCH WILL IT COST TO MAINTAIN BECAUSE WE DON'T WANT TO GET OURSELVES INTO POSITION, NEXT YEAR TO COME UP WITH $1000 TO MAINTAIN SOMETHING WE BUILT. WE GOT THE MONEY FOR SOMEONE

ELSE BUT HARD TO MAINTAIN BECAUSE OF CORONAVIRUS. >> THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU ALL. >> THE NEXT SPEAKER WILL SOCKETS IS BRIAN OR BURN; IS

THAT CORRECT? >> GENTLEMEN, THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE.

MY NAME IS BRANDON BYRON, I LIVE AT 1438 S. FLETCHER. I WOULD LIKE TO AS WELL AS THE COMMISSIONERS TO VOTE FOR THE ROLLBACKS RATE BECAUSE WE NEED TO ELIMINATE NONESSENTIAL SPENDING BE MINDFUL OF THE FINANCIAL HARDSHIP ON CITY RESIDENTS.

THIS IS NOT A TIME TO RAISE TAXES BUT A TIME FOR FISCAL RESPONSIBILITY.

THE CITY COMMISSION SHOULD BE LOOKING AHEAD PREPARING US FOR THE UNCERTAINTIES OF THE FUTURE AND NOT SPENDING OUR TAX DOLLARS IN BUSINESS AS USUAL FASHION.

THERE ARE MANY AREAS IN THE PROPOSED BUDGET THAT CAN BE EITHER ELIMINATED, IT REDUCED OR POSTPONED FOR FUTURE CONSIDERATION.HE GENTLEMAN BEFORE POINTED OUT A NUMBER OF PLACES. FOR INSTANCE, PARKS. PARKS ARE NOT ESSENTIAL ITEMS RIGHT NOW BECAUSE OUR CHILDREN ARE NOT ALLOWED TO MEET IN GROUPS FOR PLAY SPORTS.

THEREFORE ADDING MORE MONEY INTO PARTS THAT CANNOT BE USED THIS YEAR IS A WASTE OF TIME AND MONEY. WE TALKED ABOUT THE MONEY FOR THE WATERFRONT PARK.

$300,000. SIMMONS RD., PARK, ANOTHER $300,000.

WE SHOULD COMMIT THIS TIME, WITH WE SHOULD COMMIT THIS TIME, WITH SIMMONS RD., PARK, PUT IT ON HOLD UNTIL NEXT YEAR. IN SEPTEMBER WE CAN REAPPLY FOR THE GRANT WE DID NOT GET LAST YEAR BUT WE WERE IN FIFTH PLACE. THERE IS NO REASON WE CANNOT REAPPLY AGAIN. AND TAKE WHATEVER IMPACT FUNDS YOU WERE ATTRIBUTING TO THAT AND PUT IT SOMEWHERE ELSE. CONVERTING THE MARTIN LUTHER KING PRIVATE TOTAL COST IS $230,000 AND RE-DECKING NORTH BEACH PART 50,000, FENCING 150,000 AND PITTING NEW LED LIGHTING IN FOR TENNIS COURTS AND $60,000 INSTALLING SHADES, STRUCTURES OF FOOTBALL FIELDS $20,000. THIS IS WELL OVER $1 MILLION. OUR KIDS CAN EVEN GO TO THESE PARKS AND SOCIALIZED. I THINK IT WOULD BE A GOOD IDEA TO DO THE NECESSARY REPAIRS AND MAINTENANCE IS JUST TO GET US THROUGH THIS YEAR AND THEN MAYBE NEXT YEAR WE CAN LOOK AT OUR LIVES AND WHERE WE ARE AT AND REVISIT ALL OF THESE EXPENDITURES.

PUBLIC SAFETY, THE FIRE STATION NUMBER TWO BEING RELOCATED SHOULD BE POSTPONED.

THAT IS $500,000 AND WHY IS IT CRITICAL AT THIS TIME. >> THANK YOU MA'AM.

>> I HAVE ONE LESS STATEMENT PLEASE. THE RESTRICTED RESERVES OF THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT SEPARATED FROM THE GENERAL FUND ARE SET AT APPROXIMATELY $2 MILLION.

WHY NOT PAY FOR THE REAPPOINTING OF THE CENTER AT ABOUT $2 MILLION.

>> THANK YOU. MR. TOM SMITH.>> CANNOT ANSWER THAT QUESTION.

>> AM SORRY. >> THE REASON THAT CAN BE DONE IS BECAUSE IT'S RESTRICTED

BUILDING FUND THAT CAN ONLY BE USED IN FORCE. >> AM SORRY.

>> THE REASON YOU CANNOT USE THE BUILDING FUND TO REAPPOINT THE CENTER IS BECAUSE IT CAN ONLY BE USED BY FLORIDA LAW CAN ONLY BE USED TO DO ENFORCEMENT THINGS TO THE BUILDING CODE.

>> IS A PART OF THE BUILDING CODE.> NO. IT'S NOT FEASIBLE.

>> WE HAVE TO HAVE IT TRANSCRIBED AND IT HAS TO BE NEAR MICROPHONE.

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IF YOU WANT TO SPEAK, COME UP FRONT TO HAVE THE MICROPHONE. COMMISSIONER CHAPMAN YOU WILL

RECOGNIZE. >> I WOULD LIKE TO SAY THAT THE REASON FOR MOVING FORWARD, THE FIRE STATION NUMBER TWO, IS THAT IF YOU LOOK AROUND YOUR HOUSE, YOU WILL FIND THERE IS MANY MORE THINGS IN THAT BUILDING THAT WHEN THEY BURN CAN GIVE OFF CARCINOGENS.

OUR FIREFIGHTERS ARE REQUIRED TO HOSE DOWN AT THE SCENE AND WHEN THEY GET BACK TO THE STATION AND THEY TAKE OFF THEIR BUNKER GEAR AND IT JUST WANDERED SO THAT THEY'RE READY FOR THE NEXT FIRE. WHAT WE HAVE NOW IN SESSION 2 DOES NOT ADEQUATELY PROTECT THE SAFETY OF OUR FIREFIGHTERS AND THEY ARE OUT THERE EVERY SINGLE DAY PROTECTING OUR SAFETY AND THEY AT LEAST DESERVE US PROTECTING THEIR SAFETY. IN THE FIRE DEPARTMENT RECENTLY GOT HOODS BECAUSE ONE OF THE ISSUES THAT HAVEN'T IS THAT WHEN YOU'RE IN A BURNING BUILDING, THEY ARE ABSORBED THROUGH YOUR SKIN THANKS TO PRIVATE DONATIONS AND I'VE HOODS TO CUT DOWN A REDUCED RISK OF GETTING CANCER. IF YOU LOOK AT THE NUMBER OF FIREFIGHTERS NATIONWIDE THAT ARE DYING FROM CANCER, IT IS BECAUSE OF THE WAY WE VIEW BUILDINGS AND I WILL NOT SEE HER PUT OUR FIREFIGHTERS JEOPARDY.

THANK YOU. >> I SEE HER LIKE COMMISSIONER BUT I WANT TO CONFIRM.

FIRE STATION TO WHEN I FIRST GOT ELECTED WE DID A TOUR AND I WAS DISGUSTED ON THE CONDITION THAT THE GUYS WERE LIVING IN WHEN THEY HAD TO SPEND THE NIGHT IN THE BUILDING AND I

THINK IT'S A LONG TIME COMING. >> JUST TO BUILD ON COMMISSIONER CHAPMAN, I WOULD ENCOURAGE ANYONE TO GET A FIRE STATION NUMBER TWO AND RECOGNIZE THESE FIREFIGHTERS LIVED THERE AND THIS IS HER HOME AND IF YOU GO BACK INTO THEIR SLEEPING QUARTERS, YOU ARE ESSENTIALLY LOOKING AT A VERY TINY BARRICK AND NO PRIVACY.

THERE IS NOT EVEN A DESK FOR THEM TO SET UP A LAPTOP. THEY HAVE TO SIT IN THEIR BED IN THEIR BUNK WITH THEIR LAPTOP AND WORK THAT WAY. THE WAY OF THE CONFIGURATION OF THEIR CONDITIONING IS THAT THE AIR CONDITIONING SEX AND DIESEL FUMES WHEN THEY START THIS FIRE TRUCKS. I WENT OVER THERE AND I SPENT ABOUT THREE HOURS WITH THE FIREFIGHTERS IN THE CHEESE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHERE WE CAN MOVE THAT UNIT AND THE ANSWER IS YOU CAN'T. IT IS RIGHT THERE NEXT TO THE GARAGE AND SO NOT ONLY ARE THESE GUYS AND THEY ARE OUT ON THE FIRE GETTING ALL THIS TOXIC MATERIAL, THEY ARE BREATHING IN THE FUMES AND THE PLACE TO LIVE. SO THEY DESERVE BETTER THAN THIS AND I URGE EVERYONE WHO THINKS WE ARE WASTING MONEY AND SPENDING MONEY PREVIOUSLY ON ANY STATION, YOU GO OVER THERE YOU SEE THOSE CONDITIONS AND THEN COME BACK AND OPPOSE IT.

THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU. MR. SMITH?

>> THANK YOU. THIS IS MY FIRST MENTOR HERE AT THIS MEETING.

I WOULD LIKE TO THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE. OUR STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS OF THE RECORD I FELT MY NAME IS PTOM SMITH AND I LIVE AT AGENCY 6 HIGHLAND DOCTOR MY CONCERN IS ROLLED BACK IN VILLAGE TAXES. EETINGS WILL BE TALKED ABOUT IN REDUNDANCY BUT I NEED TO SAY WHAT I HAVE TO SAY. AS A TAXPAYER DID NOT WANT TO HEAR FROM THE COMMISSION WHAT IS ESSENTIAL SERVICES WOULD LIKE US TO CUT TOM. TO ME THAT IS A FALSE CHOICE.

DON'T INSULT MY INTELLIGENCE OR ANYBODY OUT HERE. NOBODY LOST A CUT ESSENTIAL SERVICES, POLICE, FIRE ANYTHING ELSE SEEMED ESSENTIAL. I DON'T THINK THAT'S REALLY THE SUGGESTION OR ANYBODY WANTS TO DO THAT. ONCE AGAIN PUT OUT THERE THE NONESSENTIAL ITEMS ARE WHAT NEEDS TO BE ADDRESSED. HIRING AND PROMOTION FREEZES.

I NOTICED IN THE BUDGET AND I DO NOT HAVE A LOT OF TIME TO LOOK OVER IT BUT I NOTICED A LOT OF OF PART-TIME POSITIONS BEING TRANSPOSED TO FULL-TIME POSITIONS.

IT SEEMED TO BE A PATTERN AND I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S A WAY TO GET INTO THE SYSTEM.

I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S THE CASE BUT IT APPEARS TO BE. THE FIRE STATION I HAD THAT IN

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MY NOTES. IT WAS A RECOMMENDATION FOR DIFFERENT RELOCATION.

I THOUGHT ONE OF THE MEETINGS WAS BROUGHT UP THAT THE FIRE STATION WILL BE RELOCATED OUT TO WHERE THE AIRPORT IS. IS THAT IN THE MIDDLE OF THE CITY AND EASILY ACCESSIBLE IN ALL THOSE QUESTIONS CAME UP AND I DON'T KNOW THE ANSWER TO THAT.

I THOUGHT I WAS ON THE OUTSKIRTS OF THE CITY. IS THERE A BETTER PLACE FOR IT, DON'T KNOW. I HAVE IT ON THERE FOR FOOD FOR THOUGHT.

I NOTICED SEVERAL THINGS ON HERE AND ALSO MANAGE A $56,000 BUDGET AND A LOT OF THE CUSS WAS ADDRESSING VEHICLE REPLACEMENTS AND A LOT OF DIFFERENT WAYS TO DO THAT.

AND LASTLY, ENOUGH WITH THE COST STUDIES. WE HAD DIFFERENT STUDIES AND WITH THE FEASIBILITY STUDIES AND WHAT WILL WE DO WITH THE PARKS IN THE WATER AND DO ANYMORE STUDIES. HER THERE'S A $300,000 STUDY SIT ON THE BENCH OR BACK BURNER. CITIZENS FEEL THE FINANCIAL BURDEN WHAT WE NEED TO DO IS SEIZE THE OPPORTUNITY TO ROLLBACK THE MILITANT GET UNDER SPENDING UNDER CONTROL.HIS IS NOT YOUR MONEY AND IT IS OUR MONEY. WE ENTRUST YOU TO SPEND IT WISELY AND WE VOTED YOU IN IT, BUT YOU OUT AND THAT'S WAY THE SYSTEM WORKS.

IT IS OFTEN SAID YOU WILL EVENTUALLY RUN OUT OF OTHER PEOPLE'S MONEY.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.> I WOULD JUST LIKE TO MAKE A COMMENT ON VEHICLE REPLACEMENT AND MR. MAYOR YOUR CORRECT THAT JEREMIAH DOES OF EDESSA JOB OF FIGURING OUT THE VALUE OF LINDA TRADE IN THE VEHICLE. HOWEVER, AS I SAID IN MY OPENING STATEMENT, THESE ARE EXTRAORDINARY TIMES. THESE ARE TIMES THAT REQUIRE A DISCIPLINE THAT SAYS CAN WE MAKE THIS ASSET CLASS ONE MORE YEAR. CAN THIS ASSET SERVE THE CITY MORE YEAR UNTIL WE KNOW WHAT OUR FINANCIAL PICTURE IS. AND THAT IS WHAT I WANT TO STRESS TONIGHT. WE ARE GOING INTO UNCHARTED WATERS.

WE NEED TO BE CAREFUL FOR A YEAR. ONE YEAR.

I DON'T THINK IT'S A LOT TO ASK. I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT PEOPLE UNDERSTAND ABOUT THESE VEHICLES. THERE IS A METHODOLOGY TO IT BUT WE ARE IN COVID AND IN SPECIAL CIRCUMSTANCES.ET'S EXAMINE THESE VEHICLES AND MAKE

THEM LAST ONE MORE YEAR. THANK YOU. >> MISS PATTY FLIPPER.

>> GOOD EVENING. PATTY FLIPPER AT 174 PATTY FLIPPER AT 174 SALLY AZALEA ST.

FRONTING THE BEACH. PERSONNEL REPRESENT 70 PERCENT OF OUR EXPENDITURES AND ARE INCREASING $1 MILLION OVER THE CURRENT FISCAL YEAR PROJECTION AND THAT IS A SIX A 6.6 PERCENT INCREASE. I WAS SHOCKED TO LEARN THAT THE HEADCOUNT IN THE CITY MANAGERS PROPOSED BUDGET WAS ADDING FOUR POSITIONS. ON TOP OF THE SIGNIFICANT GROWTH IN THE NUMBER OF PERSONNEL FOR THE LAST FIVE YEARS.

PLEASE GIVE A THOROUGH REVIEW OF THE ADDITIONS TO THE CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE, THAT IS UP TV8 I HAVE FIVE FULL-TIME POSITIONS FREE TO CONSIDERING YOU LOOKING PAGE 24.

IN THE FINANCE DEPARTMENT THE CITY SPENT HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS FOR AND ACCOUNTING SYSTEM. IT IS TIME TO REACH THE BENEFITS BY REDUCTION OF FAT.

HAVE BEEN A GREAT JOB OF PUBLISHING A CAMPER IN PREPARING THE AUDIT FINANCIALS AND GETTING THE BUDGET PICK OUT IN TIMELY FASHION. WHY ADD MORE STAFF.

IN IT, FULL-TIME POSITIONS DOUBLED IN ONE OF THEM HAS MARY THAT SECOND WAS MOVED FROM PART-TIME TO FULL-TIME. IN FACILITIES, THIS IS ADDED TO FULL-TIME POSITIONS IN ONE OF THE CURRENT FISCAL YEAR AND THE SECOND IN THE PROPOSED BUDGET. WHY.

CODE ENFORCEMENT. THIS IS DEPARTMENT REALLY NEED FULL-TIME ADMINISTRATIVE ASSISTANTS AND IMPARTS HOW MANY TIMES HAS THE DEPARTMENT AND FULLY STAFFED.

BUDGET FOR 10 EMPLOYEE FULL TIMERS. I THINK IT WOULD DO THE

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COMMISSION AND EVERYBODY GOOD TO TRACK THE HEADCOUNT AND ASKED FOR REPORT COMING OUT EACH MONTH SAYING THIS BUDGET AND THESE ARE THE ACTUAL HEADS WE HAVE IN THIS POSITIONS AND ANALYZE INCREASES IN STAFF AND THE POLICE DEPARTMENT AND FIRE DEPARTMENT OVER THE PAST THREE YEARS. DITTO FOR TIME INCREASE AND HELP WITH THE ADDITIONAL STAFF DEPLOYED. THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK IN FAVOR DOING YOUR

DUE DILIGENCE ON THE BUDGET. >>, TO SEE THANK YOU. SANDY CAREY.

WELCOME MA'AM.>> I JUST WANT TO SAY. >> WE NEED YOUR NAME AND

ADDRESS. >> 1255, SANDY CAREY. >> I THINK EVERYTHING THAT HAS BEEN SAID SINCE IT ALL. WE ARE IN UNIQUE TIMES AND MORE THAN ANYTHING ELSE THIS BOARD HAS A DUTY TO PROTECT THE CITIZENS OF THIS COMMUNITY. I BELIEVE WE ARE HEADING IN THE STORM WATERS THAT ARE UNPRECEDENTED AND I THINK FUNDS SHOULD BE SERVED AT THE UPMOST AND PUT ASIDE FOR EMERGENCIES AND THINGS MAY BE COMING UP AGAINST.

THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS REFERRED TONIGHT THAT CAN BE CUT FROM THE BUDGET AND THROUGH THE COMMISSIONERS I UNDERSTAND ARE UP FOR REELECTION AND I WAS SUGGEST THAT UNLESS IT'S ESSENTIAL, DON'T PUT THINGS IN THERE WE DON'T NEED. KEEP FUNDS AVAILABLE FOR WE DO NEED HIM IN THE FUTURE COMING UP BECAUSE THERE IS BIG PUBLIC SAFETY ISSUES THAT THEY WILL FACE AND I HAVEN'T SEEN MUCH ABOUT. THE OTHER CONCERN I HAVE IS THE LACK OF GIVE-AND-TAKE BETWEEN YOUR CITY MANAGER AND SOME DEPARTMENT HEADS.

NOT THE CITY CLERK. SHE'S WONDERFUL. TRY TO GET INFORMATION DIFFICULT TO HAVE AN ISSUE LIKE THIS IMPORTANCE AND NOT HAVE A BUDGET AVAILABLE FOR THE COMMISSION HEARING THE PUBLIC TO SEE THE WEEK BEFORE IS NOT GOOD.

AND 100 AND SOMETHING PAGE BUDGET IS VERY HARD FOR CITIZENS TO CONDENSE.

IT MAY BE NICE TO PUT SOME OF THAT IN THE CONDENSE FORM FOR TAXPAYERS LOOK AT BUT THERE NEEDS TO BE MORE TRANSPARENCY AND MORE ACCOUNTABILITY. THE THINGS I'VE SEEN THAT WOULD DEAL WITH FEMA AND THE MARINA OF THE BIGGEST CONCERNS THE SEA.

THERE'S A LOT OF QUESTIONS NEED TO BE ANSWERED. THAT IS $12 MILLION OF DEBT THAT HAS TO BE TRANSFERRED FROM THE GENERAL FUND TO COVER THOSE DEBTS.

THAT IS THE BIGGEST ITEM I SEE IN YOUR IN THE MIDDLE OF NEGOTIATIONS AND A MODERATION MEDIATION WITH FEMA THAT THIS QUESTIONS ARE BIG AND WHO'S MINDING THE STORE.

I DON'T UNDERSTAND HOW THOSE THINGS CAN HAPPEN. IT JUST SEEMS LIKE A LOT OF THINGS WENT THROUGH THE CRACKS THEY ARE. ARCHIE DE SOTO AND LET THE NEW COMMISSION, MEN WHO WILL BE HERE FOR FOUR YEARS AND SET THE POLICY AND GET A HANDLE ON FINANCES AND REALLY PRIORITIZE WHAT DO WE REALLY NEED TO FUNCTION AS A GOVERNMENT.

HIS ONLY CERTAIN ESSENTIAL SERVICES THAT ARE NEEDED. FOR THE MOST PARTS WE DON'T ENJOY THEM BUT THEIR TOP PRIORITY. WE CAN ALWAYS REVISIT THIS NEXT YEAR WE HAVE A BETTER UNDERSTANDING OF WHERE WE WILL BE.

>> THANK YOU. >> THAT IS THE SECOND TIME RENA HAS BEEN MENTIONED VERY IN CASE ANYONE WAS LIKE MY THAT WAS GET A BRIEF SUMMARY OF WHAT'S GOING ON.

>> THE CITY IS IN THE PROCESS OF APPEALING THE FEMA DETERMINATION AND I SHOULD HAVE PLUMING AIRPORTS AND FORMATION OF THE APPEAL AND THE APPEAL IS DUE AT THE END OF AUGUST.

AND THE BASIS OF THE APPEAL IS FEMA FINAL DETERMINATION WAS $670,000 VERSUS THE CONSTRUCTION COST OF APPROXIMATELY 6 AND A HALF MILLION DOLLARS.

>> THE $12 MILLION NUMBERS WAS MENTIONED IN THE RACE IT SOUND LIKE IT'S COMING OUT OF THE

GENERAL FUND. >> STATUS OF TOTAL DEBT ASSOCIATED WITH THE MARINA AND THAT IS ACCRUED OVER SEVERAL YEARS FOR THE GENERAL FUND HAVING TO SUPPORT THE SHORT

CASH FALLS AT THE MARINA. >> WE HAVE REFERENCED THIS REPORT A LOT AND OBVIOUSLY THIS SANTANIC REPORT WAS DONE BEFORE THE COVID SITUATION. HAVE YOU REACHED OUT TO THEM TO SEE THE DIFFERENCES AND HAVE WE ASKED IS THERE MORE GUIDANCE, AGAIN WILL THEY THOUGHT ABOUT

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THE MARINA. >> A LOT OF THAT IS WAITING TO SEE WHAT YOU DECIDE AND I DECIDE TO PROCEED AND WHETHER WE WANT TO GO BACK AND REVISIT AND SEE IF THEY WHATEVER THE PLAN WE DECIDE BECAUSE TO REITERATE NOT SYMMETRY BUT TO THE GENERAL PUBLIC, THAT REPORT WAS DERIVED DUE TO AUDITOR COMMENTS AND SAID YOUR STRUCTURAL OR CASH FLOW DEFICIT IS UNSUSTAINABLE AND YOU HAVE TO COME UP WITH A PLAN TO ADDRESS THE STRUCTURAL DEFICITS SO THEY CAME UP WITH A PLAN WHICH IS WHAT IS INCORPORATED INTO THIS BUDGET SO IF YOU WANT TO REVISE THAT PLAN WE CAN GO BACK TO THAT OR ANY OTHER FINANCIAL ADVISOR AND SAY HERE

WITH THIS NEW DATA AND INPUT HOW DOES THAT AFFECT YOUR PLAN GOING FORWARD.>> AND THAT IS BASICALLY WHAT I'M LOOKING AT WHEN A LOOK AT THESE BUDGET NUMBERS.

THE WHOLE THING ABOUT THE MARINA DEBT AND GOLF COURSE DEBT IN THE FIGHT WE CAN'T CONTINUE TO WRECK UP THAT MUCH. THE MANY CLEAR, THE MARINA IS EXPENSIVE AND NOBODY WANTED IT FIXED AS FAST AS POSSIBLE AND WE HAVE TONS OF -- WE DID NOT HAVE $10 MILLION ROUND BLADE AROUND TO FACE MARINA AND IF WE HAD NONE OF IT SHOULD BE HERE BECAUSE HE SHOULD NOT HAVE THAT MUCH IN A RESERVE BUT THAT IS AN EXPENSIVE THING. TO PAY FOR THAT STUFF WE START TALKING ABOUT WHAT WE HAVE TO BE MORE CAREFUL.

BUT WE CAN'T HAVE IT BOTH WAYS. IF YOU WANT TO MARINA AND THE GOLF COURSE AND WE DON'T WANT TO PRIVATIZE IT AND DON'T WANT TO LOOK AT BIDDERS. WHEN I CAME UP IT WAS A BIG DEAL. I WILL NEVER EVER VOTE TO PRIVATIZE THE MARINA WAS SAID.

SOMEBODY CAME ALONG AND OFFERED US $200 MILLION FOR THE MARINA AND SIGN LEGAL DOCUMENTS IT SAID IT WILL STILL BE PUBLICLY ACCESSIBLE IN THE RATES WOULD NOT CHANGE, NOT TO DO THAT WOULD BE A BACK CALL. THAT IS ISSUE I'M HAVING BECAUSE OF ART HEADACHES FOR SOLACE IN ORDER TO MAINTAIN SERVICES THAT WE HAVE AND HAVE TO FIND A WAY TO PAY FOR IT.

HE ALSO MENTIONED THAT THE MAJORITY EVEN FOR CONSIDERING A DIFFERENT TAX RATE EVEN WHEN YOU PROPOSED, THE MAJORITY WILL SEE A LOWER TAX BILL ON THEIR BILLS NEXT YEAR.

>> THAT MAY BE THE CASE FOR A LOT OF PEOPLE BUT TO BE VERY CLEAR, ACCORDING TO STATE STATUTE ANY MILLAGE RATE ABOVE THE ROLLBACK RATE IS CONSIDERED A TAX INCREASE SO THERE'S A KEY DIFFERENCE IN THEIR BUT WITHOUT A DOUBT ACCORDING TO STATE STATUTE ANY MILLAGE YOU DECIDE TO SET IS A MILLAGE RATE, IF IT IS OVER THE ROLLBACK RATE WILL BE CONSIDERED TAX INCREASE AND

THERE IS NO DEBATING THAT, THAT IS WHAT THE STATE STATUTE SAYS. >> THANK YOU.

COMMISSIONER. >> THANK YOU. ON THE LOWER RATE, LET'S BE CLEAR, LOWER RATE IS BEING CAUSED BECAUSE OF CONSERVATION MILLAGE EXPIRED HALF MILL.

YET THE SAME, THE PROPOSED BUDGET IS THE SAME MILLAGE RATE AS LAST YEAR MINUS THE HALF MILL FOR CONSERVATION. THAT IS WHY IT IS GOING DOWN. BUT IT IS STILL A TAX INCREASE.

I WANT TO BE CLEAR ABOUT THAT. I WANT TO BE CLEAR ON THIS. THE PLAN IN ORDER TO GET THE MARINA TO ZERO LIABILITY, ZERO OPERATING DATA, IS A CONTRIBUTION OF $8 MILLION OVER THE NEXT FIVE YEARS SO STARTS, IT'S FOUR MORE YEARS. IT'S A BIG CHALLENGE FOR US TO FIGURE OUT FOR GOING TO FOLLOW THE RECOMMENDATION, HOW WILL WE DO THAT.

HOW ARE WE GOING TO FIND $8 MILLION. IN YEAR ONE, $1 MILLION TRANSFER IS COMING OUT OF RESERVIST. IT IS COMING UP ABOUT 2 MILLION THAT WE HAVE ABOVE THE 20 PERCENT RESERVES IN THE GENERAL FUND.

THAT IS HOW THAT IS BEING FUNDED. IF YOU EXTRAPOLATE THAT OVER THE NEXT FIVE YEARS RESERVES ONLY OF THE 20 PERCENT LEVEL. WON'T HAVE ANY CUSHION LIKE WE

DO NOW. THANK YOU. >> SEEKING CARE WITHOUT CITY COMPTROLLER? WITH THE RESERVE LEVEL XX PERCENT.

>> YES. >> MR. ROSS YOU ARE RECOGNIZED. >> BRINGING UP NOW.

THE WAY THAT WE GOT TO THE CURRENT PROPOSED MILLAGE RATE POF 5.853 WHICH IS PROPOSED BY

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THE CITY MANAGER 'S OF THE AUDITOR THAT THE PREVIOUS COMPTROLLER RECOMMENDED STATED THAT THE CITY NEEDS OF A PLAN TO PAY OFF THE MARINA DEBT AND THAT IF WE DON'T DO THAT WILL IS OUR CREDIT RATING AND HAVE OTHER PROBLEMS. SO THE CITY HIRED SANTANIC AS FINANCIAL ADVISOR. IN THE PURPOSE THAT REPORT, WHAT CONDITIONS AT THE GENERAL FUND WOULD REMAIN SUSTAINABLE THAT WEEK ABOUT THE GENERAL DEBT FUND IMPELLED THE GOLF COURSE FIND AND IDENTIFY THE CONDITIONS NECESSARY TO ENABLE THE CITY TO MEET ALL ITS OBLIGATIONS OVER THE NEXT YEAR'S. THE REPORT WAS BASED ON AND THIS IS WHAT THE REPORT WAS BASED ON, WHICH IS WHY WE HAVE THE MILLAGE RATE OF WHICH IS WHY WE HAVE THE MILLAGE RATE OF 5.853 WAS NOT A MILLAGE RATE OF 5.853.

IN THEIR CONCLUSIONS AND I WILL READ THEM FROM THE REPORT, THE CITY'S CURRENT MILLAGE RATE OF 5.8533, PROPERTY VALUE PROJECTIONS OF THE SOURCE OF REVENUE ARE EXPECTED TO PRODUCE SUFFICIENT REVENUES TO MEET THE GENERAL FUNDS OF ONGOING CAPITAL AND OPERATING COSTS THROUGH FY 2029 SO OVER THE NEXT 10 YEARS.THE GOLF COURSE FUNDS IN THE MARINA FUNDS CASH FLOWS ARE STRUCTURALLY UNSUSTAINABLE AND REQUIRE SIGNIFICANT INCREASES IN REVENUE AMOUNTS OF ANNUAL CASH SUPPORT FROM THE GENERAL FUND IN ORDER TO FUND ONGOING OPERATIONAL COSTS OF SERVICING CAPITAL REQUIREMENTS. FINALLY THE GENERAL FUND IS PROJECTED TO HAVE SUFFICIENT SURPLUS TO SUPPORT THE MARINA FUND AND THE GOLF COURSE FIND THAT THE CITY CHOOSES TO DO SO. WITH EVERYTHING IS AND AM NOT ADVOCATING THIS, I'M TELLING YOU WHAT THE REPORT SAID. 5.8533 WAS WHAT WAS PRINTED ON MAINTAINING AND PAYING OFF THE CITY DEBT.THAT IS WHERE THAT NUMBER CAME FROM. LATER ON WE'LL TALK ABOUT HOW WE CAN CHANGE THAT BUT WHILE WE CAME UP WITH THAT MILLAGE RATE OF 5.8533 WAS TO PAY OFF THE DEBT AND THAT IS WHAT THEIR FINANCIAL ANALYSIS WAS PREDICTED ON FOR STABILITY.

WE NOT ONLY HAVE AN OBLIGATION TO GET THROUGH THIS YEAR BECAUSE I DON'T THINK THINGS WILL GET BETTER IN THE NEXT SEVERAL YEARS QUOTE WHAT WE HAVE TO LOOK FORWARD IN THE FUTURE YEARS. WHAT I HAVE OFTEN SAID IS THE ACHILLES TENDON OF OUR FINANCES IS THE MARINA DEBT AND THE GOLF COURSE THAT WHICH AFTER THE COMMENTS I WILL ADDRESS.

>> VICE MAYOR, YOU ARE RECOGNIZED. >> SHOULD BE A DESIRE TO GO AHEAD WITH THIS RECOMMENDATION IMPELLED THE DEBT. IT CAN BE ALSO DONE AT THE 5.3 ROLLBACK RATE. I'M NOT SURE WE SET ON THAT BASIS BUT THE ORIGINAL BUDGET CAME IN AND DEPARTMENT BUDGETS WERE 11.8 OVER LAST YEAR AND THEY WERE PUSHED DOWN.

WE CAN STILL DO SANTANIC IF THAT IS THE DESIRE OF 5.3 AND THERE ARE OTHER MAJOR ISSUES.

WE ARE IN REAL CRISIS NOW BUT WE HAVE SOME SIGNIFICANT LARGE EXPENDITURES AS WE MOVE ON THE FIVE-YEAR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN OTHER THAN THE MARINA AND THE GOLF COURSE.

WE ARE ACTUALLY TALKING ABOUT A $27 MILLION JOB CONTROL AND CIVILIZATION BROUGHT UP BY THREE OR FOUR COMMISSION MEETINGS AGO WHICH WILL REQUIRE 35 PERCENT MATCH OF $10 MILLION. THOSE ARE THINGS ONLY GET THE BUDGET SO WE CAN DISCUSS.

THE THING ON THIS IS ROLLBACK TO REQUIRE THE MINIMAL, WHETHER THEY LIVE ON FLETCHER 14TH ST., EVERYONE CAN BE STRAPPED. UNEMPLOYMENT IS THERE A -- 10 PERCENT OF CHILDREN ARE IN POVERTY IN THIS DISCUSSING. AS THE PEOPLE IN THIS TOWN ARE MAKING LESS THAN $59,000.

HOUSEHOLD. I DO NOT WANT TO TAKE A DOLLAR MORE FOR MANY OF THEM THIS YEAR

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AND WE CAN LOOK AT AS WE MOVE ON, GET ALL OF THESE DIFFERENT THINGS LIKE A SAID.

SOME ARE SOME I DON'T AGREE WITH THAT THAT'S A COMMISSION DECISION WILL WE GET THERE.

>> WHAT YOU'RE SAYING IS REALLY WHAT THE BIG PICTURE. IF WE DON'T DO THE ROLLBACK RATE, THESE BILLS WILL PILE UP SO EVENTUALLY THE BILLS WILL COME DUE.

HOW DO YOU PROPOSE THAT WE ARE ABLE TO PAY OUT THE DEBT. WHAT ARE THEY GETTING WRONG.

> IF YOU WANT TO USE STANTEC, TO GO TO THE ROLLBACK RATE, IT'S 1,000,005.

YOU HAVE 1,000,005 FROM THE BUDGET. THE VEHICLE ISSUE IS ONE.

WE HAVE THE SEVEN $-5000 BUT THAT WAS NOT IN ANY OF THE OTHERS.

BILLIKEN ALL THE OTHER THINGS AND YOU LOOK AT ALL THE OTHER THINGS AND WHAT DO WE NEED TO DO. WE NEED TO DO THAT THIS YEAR. I DON'T THINK PULLING 1,000,005 OUT IS A DIFFICULT. WHAT THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT AND I MET WITH THE CITY MANAGER AND THE CITY ATTORNEY IN THE CITY AND PAULINE COMPTROLLER AND WAS 11 JUNE AND TOLD HIM AND IDENTIFIED 2.7 MILLION THAT CAME OUT OF CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT.

DO YOU WANT TO BE CAREFUL BECAUSE WERE IN TROUBLE BECAUSE THAT WAS THE FIRST THING THAT WENT BEFORE. IF YOU LOOK AROUND, LOOK AT OUR FLEET.

WE HAVE A FABULOUS FLEET IN THE BUILDINGS ARE FALLING DOWN AND SOMETHING IS WRONG AND I THINK YOU NEED TO BE CAREFUL YOU THINK YOU CAN GET THE MILLION FIVE AND IF THE STANTEC IS WAITING ON A WAY TO PAY THE DEBT IT CAN HAPPEN. I THINK YOU CAN DO THAT.

THIS YEAR THIS IS BATTIER. >> THANK YOU. >> TO ANSWER THE QUESTION, WHO WENT TO THE ROLLBACK RATE WHERE WOULD WE GET MONEY, I WILL POINT OUT IN THIS IS IN THE PROPOSED BUDGET AS WELL AS A DOCUMENT THAT COMMISSIONER ROSS PROVIDED US, WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE WATER UTILITY FUND, THERE'S $8 MILLION IN THE LAST TIME I BROUGHT THIS UP COMMISSIONER ROSS TALK ABOUT ARMAGEDDON, STRIKING THE ISLAND AND WIPING US OUT AND WE NEED THAT $8 MILLION. THAT MONEY IS FOR A GUARANTEE OF WATER REVENUES.

IF ARMAGEDDON HAPPENS DO YOU THINK WATER REVENUES ARE TOP PRIORITY.

WE WILL BE WIPED OUT. WHAT I'M SAYING IS, NOT WIPEOUT THE ENTIRE FUND THAT WE NEED ONE AND AND A HALF MILLION DOLLARS, MCRAE. TAKEN MILLION DOLLARS OUT OF THAT FUND AND IS ALLOWED TO BE USED FOR ANYTHING SO THERE IS MILLION DOLLARS FOR THE SHORTFALL. WE ARE PAYING OURSELVES BACK FROM THE MARINA FOR MONEY WE HAVE BORROWED OUT OF THE UTILITY FUND IN $225,000 SUSPEND THE PAYMENT.

WE ARE PAYING IT TO OURSELVES AND FINALLY. NASSAU COUNTY STREETLIGHT PAYMENTS WHICH CITY MANAGER MARTIN TOLD US ABOUT, WE WERE PAYING FOR STREETLIGHTS, THE ELECTRIC BILLS FOR LIGHTS IN THE COUNTY 20 GRAND AND WE SENT THEM A LETTER AND SO GUESS WHAT, WE ARE NOT PAYING THE 20 GRAND ANYMORE SO THERE IS 1 SO THERE IS $1,250,000 AVAILABLE.

THAT WE HAVE IF WE GO TO ROLLBACK RATE AND THAT WILL FUND MOST OF WHAT IS IN THE

PROPOSED BUDGET. THANK YOU. >> COMMISSIONER ROSS, YOU ARE

RECOGNIZED. >> I WAS GOING TO WAIT BUT THINGS HAVE CHANGED SINCE THE STANTEC REPORT. THE EMPLOYMENT RATE IS 13.9 PERCENT.

MANY CITIZENS ARE HAVING TROUBLE MAKING RENT AND MORTGAGE PAYMENTS AND PUTTING FOOD ON THE TABLE AND BUSINESSES ARE STRUGGLING TO STAY OPEN AND IT APPEARS THERE IS NO QUICK FIX ON THE HORIZON AND IT WILL PROBABLY LAST FOR YEARS WE NEED TO GIVE A MEASURE OF RELIEF TO THE TAXPAYERS. BUT, I DON'T WANT TO LAY OFF OR CUT SERVICES WE ALSO NEED TO

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HAVE A PLAN TO RESOLVE THE MARINA AND GOLF DEBT FOR THE CITY WILL NOT BE FINANCIALLY STABLE GOING FORWARD. I WAS GOING TO SUGGEST AND I'LL DO IT NOW, YOU ARE CORRECT.

WE SHOULD CUT THE $20,000 THAT WERE PAYING I DON'T THINK THEY WILL BE HAPPY.THAT WAS PIMA COUNTY UTILITY BILLS ON COUNTY RIGHT AWAY. AND ANOTHER THING TO CONSIDER IS THE PROBLEM WITH THE ROLLBACK RATE IS THAT IT DOESN'T TAKE INTO ACCOUNT INFLATION. THERE IS WHAT'S CALLED THE ADJUSTED ROLLBACK RATE WHICH IS WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO GO FOR WHICH IS 5.683 WHICH IS ADJUSTED FOR INFLATION AND THEN TO THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE ROLLBACK RATE AND THE ADJUSTED ROLLBACK RATE IS A LITTLE OVER $1,020,000. IN THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE ROLLBACK RATE IS $1,007,000.

WE MAKE THE FOLLOWING CHANGES TO THE BUDGET WE CAN SAVE MILLION DOLLARS.

RIGHT NOW THERE IS A REMOTE LOAN FUND WHICH IS ONE YEARS PAYMENT IN THE NEXT BUDGET IS $393,000 THAT'S A ONE PERCENT, 1.7 PERCENT TO BE PAID IN THE NEXT FOUR YEARS.

WHAT I WOULD PROPOSE INSTEAD OF TAKING MONEY FROM THE UTILITY FUND WHICH IS PEOPLE PAY THAT FOR UTILITIES, WE ARE SUGGESTING IS TAKING MONEY THAT WAS TAKEN TO THE UTILITIES IN GETTING IT TO SUBSIDIZE THE MARINA. WE HAVE LOAN FROM THAT ADDED INTEREST RATE OF 4.7 PERCENT AND THAT IS THE LOAN YOU TALKED ABOUT.

WE CANNOT STOP PAYMENT BECAUSE THE AUDITORS SAID WE NEED TO KEEP PAYING OUR LOANS OFF OR WE HAVE TO SUSTAIN AND PAY OFF OUR DEBTS. SO IF YOU COMBINE $1.3 MILLION NOT LONG WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IN THE DIFFERENCE WITH THIS BUDGET ASSUMES IS THAT FEMA WILL PAY $6.7 MILLION. WHETHER THEY PAY US OR NOT, WE WILL NOT KNOW UNTIL WELL INTO THE BUDGET YEAR. BUT WHAT IS OWED ON THE CREDIT LINE IS $8.2 MILLION.

IT'S A FEMA WILL NOT PAY THAT NO MATTER WHAT. BECAUSE AS WERE THINGS THAT HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH FEMA AND THE COPAYMENTS. SO IF YOU HAD THE 1.3 MILLION PAY OFF THE PREVIOUS LOAN AND FINANCE 1.486 MILLION AND THE CREDIT LINE IS NOT COVERED BY FEMA AND YOU FINANCE 2.63 MILLION WHICH IS THE NEGATIVE CASH BALANCE THE SENIOR TALKING ABOUT GOING FORWARD WITH THE MARINA INSTEAD OF TAKING IT OUT OF THE RESERVE FUND WHICH I THINK SHOULD BE PAYING THEM PRESERVES YOU CAN TAKE THAT LOAN OF LOAN OF 5.14 MILLION AND YOU DO THAT OVER 20 YEARS AT THE INTEREST RATE OF THE THREE YEAR TREASURY RATE +1/2 PERCENT WHICH IS 2.67 PERCENT AND TOTAL PAYMENT ON THE NEW LOAN WOULD HAVE THAT WOULD BE PAYING OFF OVER 20 YEARS IS HERE SOMEWHERE $319,000. AND WHAT WE'VE BEEN PAYING RENT MONEY SPREAD IT OUT OVER 20 YEARS. AND REFACE THIS WAY.

WHAT IS IN THE CURRENT BUDGET IS PAYING DOWN $800,000 TO THE GOLF COURSE IN THE CITY DO NOT CUT IT THE 700,000 OR 500,000 SO THAT YOU CAN SPREAD IT OUT OVER MORE TIME.

AND THAT WOULD GIVE US A SAVINGS OF $1 MILLION WHICH WOULD GET US TO THE ADJUSTED ROLLBACK RATE AND THE REASON I THINK THAT IS APPROPRIATE IS BECAUSE OF THE RATE OF INFLATION AND I THINK WE ARE BY CONTRACT BY POLICE IN THE BEST WAY TO SUPPORT PAY THEM WHAT THEY DESERVE AND WE ARE COMMITTED TO GIVEN PAY RAISES WERE ALSO GIVEN COMMITTED TO

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GIVE MS PEOPLE PAY RAISES AND I THINK WE SHOULD SO WE DON'T PAY FOR INFLATION SO THAT IS WHY I WOULD LIKE TO SUPPORT THE ADJUSTED ROLE BACK RATE AS OPPOSED TO THE ROLLBACK RATE AND THEY WILL GIVE SUSTAIN TO RELIEF TO THE CITIZENS. THOSE ARE MY THOUGHTS ABOUT THE WAY OF FINANCING THIS AND SAVING $1 MILLION. I THINK WE SHOULD DO IS SAY THIS IS VIABLE OVER THE NEXT 10 YEARS JUST LIKE IT WAS BEFORE. IT IS AN ADULT THINGS OF CHANGE AND PEOPLE ARE HAVING FINANCIAL HARDSHIPS AND HOW WILL THIS PLAY OUT.

BUT WE ALSO HAVE TO REMEMBER WE NEED TO HAVE A FUNCTIONING CITY AND WE NEED TO KEEP HER FINANCES SUSTAINABLE SO I THINK BORROWING FROM RUNNING OFF DEBT THE UTILITY FUND IS INAPPROPRIATE AND I THINK WE SHOULD PAY BACK OVER TIME AND THAT 1.67 PERCENT INTEREST RATE WILL NOT GET ANY LOWER. THAT WOULD BE MY SUGGESTION IS TO GO WITH THESE US TO ROLLBACK RATE AS OPPOSED TO THE ROLLBACK RATE. TODAY WHEN WE VOTE, THIS IS MAXIMUM WE CAN CHARGE. IF WE FIND ALL THESE OTHER SAVINGS, WE CAN GO TO THE ROLLBACK RATE LATER BUT I WOULD LIKE TO MAINTAIN THE OPTION OF PUTTING IN INFLATION AT THIS POINT AND WE NEED THREE VOTES TO DO THAT. AND THEN THE NEXT 6 TO 8 WEEKS, WE FIND THE OTHER SUBSTANTIAL SAVINGS TO POINT OUT THE NUMEROUS PEOPLE IN THE AUDIENCE AND WE CAN GO BACK TO THE ROLLBACK RATE BUT I THINK TODAY WE SHOULD FRAME THE MAXIMUM AT THE ADJUSTED ROLLBACK RATE CLICKS FOR JUST ROLLBACK RATE IS WHAT WE.

>> IT IS 5.4683. >> THAT IS CORRECT. PLACE YOUR RECOGNIZE HER.> THANK YOU. HAVE A QUESTION FOR COMMISSIONER ROSS.

I APPRECIATE YOU DOING ALL THAT MATH. HE THREW TOO MANY NUMBERS WITH

SOME SORRY. >> I COMPETED ON THE BOARD. >> THAT IS FINE.

EVERYBODY'S EYES WOULD GLAZE OVER. MY QUESTION IS, THE LOAN

DISSECTED THE MARINA TO ZERO? >> NO. >> WE HAVE TO HAVE THIS DEAD.

>> IT WOULD TAKE CARE OF EVERYTHING BUT THE 6.7 MILLION THAT WE STILL DON'T KNOW WHAT

FEMA WILL PAY. >> IT IS NOT DOUBLE THAT. FEMA HAS ALREADY COMMITTED ALMOST 2 MILLION. I'VE COMMITTED 1.7. THE 6.2 MILLION AND 1.7 WE GIVE AT LEAST THAT AND THAT WOULD HAVE TO BE ADDRESSED. THIS WOULD ADDRESS THE REST OF THE DEBT IN THE GAME THAT HAS BEEN PLAYED OVER FOR MANY YEARS HERE WERE RESHUFFLED MONEY BACK AND FORTH WHICH I THINK NEEDS TO STOP IN THE AUDITOR NEEDS TO STOP.

THIS WOULD ADDRESS THAT ISSUE IN THE AUDITOR SAID WE COULD DO IT OVER 20 YEARS AND THE PURSUIT FOR 20 YEARS IN ADVANCE A VIABLE PLAN. QUICK THINKING.

>> COMMISSIONER CHAPMAN YOUR RECOGNIZE. >> WE ARE SITTING HERE BASICALLY DEBATING PEOPLE PAYING THEIR BILLS. I THINK MUCH SOONER THAN LATER WE NEED TO LOOK AT WHAT WE'RE CHARGING FOR WATER AND SEWER. WHEN YOU HAVE A FUND THAT HAS $8 MILLION, THAT CAME FROM THE PROPHETS THAT THEY MADE OVER AND ABOVE EXPENSES.

SHOULD THERE BE RESERVE, YES. IN CASE ARMAGEDDON COMES, WE NEED TO BE OUT FOR THAT SYSTEM BACK BUT I BELIEVE CURRENT MANAGER HAS DONE AN EXCELLENT JOB NOTING THAT SYSTEM AND WE'RE TALKING ABOUT BILLS THAT KEEP COMING. ARE YOU GOING TO GET RICH IF WE LOWER WATER AND SEWER, NO BUT EVERY LITTLE BIT HELPS AND I THINK THAT IS SOMETHING WE SOONER THAN LATER NEED TO LOOK AT. THANK YOU.

>> COMMISSIONER ROSS YOU RECOGNIZE. >> I THINK YOU ARE CORRECT.

WE ALREADY DECREASED THE WASTEWATER BILL 14 AND A HALF PERCENT AND IF YOU LOOK AT WHAT IS IN THOSE FUNDS, IT IS 8 MILLION, 8 MILLION OF THAT FUND IS CALLED FOR CAPITAL

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IMPROVEMENTS AND THAT I THINK TO SAY BECAUSE IF ARMAGEDDON COMES WITH NOTHING TO DO WITH ARMAGEDDON, IT HAS TO DO WITH CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS OVER THE NEXT 7 TO 8 YEARS.

WE WANT OUR TOILETS AND WATER WORK. SO THAT SHOULD REMAIN IN TOUCH.

OF THE OTHER $11 MILLION TO SATISFY THE BOND REQUIREMENTS, YOU HAVE TO KEEP A ONE YEAR'S PAYMENT WHICH IS A LITTLE OVER MILLION DOLLARS AND A 20 PERCENT PREMIUM.

YOU HAVE TO KEEP A LITTLE OVER 1.2 $1.3 MILLION. THE REST OF IT WE CAN BORROW

AND PAY BACK AND THAT IS WHAT I WAS SUGGEST. >> I THINK ONE OF THE THINGS I WOULD ENCOURAGE THE CITY TO DO IS STOP PAYING FOR SERVICES THAT WE ARE NOT GETTING AND I WILL BRING IT ONE OF MY FAVORITES, ADVANCE DISPOSABLE. WE KEEP BLAMING THEM.

MY YARD WASTE SET UP THREE WEEKS AND I BET WE PAY THEM THEIR FULL MONTHLY PAYMENT.

IN ANY BUSINESS THAT IS DOING BUSINESS WITH THE CITY THEY DO NOT REDUCE WE DO NOT PAY THEM.

I BET IF WE REFUSE TO PAY ADVANCE DISPOSAL SERVICE WOULD'VE GOT BETTER FASTER AND WHAT WE TAKE AS EXCUSES OF WHY WE HAND THEM A CHECK. MY WIFE ALMOST WENT NUTS BECAUSE AFTER I YARD WASTE SET THERE FOR THREE WEEKS AND SAID YOU KNOW WHAT I'M GOING TO TELL THE CITY A REFUSE TO PAY AND SHE SAID PLEASE DON'T BECAUSE IT WILL MESS UP MY BOOKKEEPING.

I LOST THAT ARGUMENT. WHY SHOULD I PAY FOR SERVICE I'M SUPPOSED TO GET EVERY SINGLE WEEK AND I DON'T. WILL IT MAKE ANY FAMILY RICH NO.

BUT IT WILL BE WATCHING OUT. >> WE HAVE SPEAKERS THAT HAVE LETTERS IN.

>> BEFORE BARB COMES UP, I WOULD LIKE TO, IF THERE IS EMOTION AND A SECOND, IF IT'S ANYTHING BELOW WHAT THE CITY MANAGER HAS PURPOSE, IS NOT REQUIRED BY LAW BUT I LIKE TO DO IT ANYWAY AND THAT IS THAT WE LIST THE TRUTH AND ALLEGED STATEMENT THAT I USUALLY READ THE NEXT HEARINGS I WOULD AT LEAST LIKE TO TELL WITH THE PERCENTAGE ABOVE ROLLBACK IS IF YOU CHOOSE THE ADJUSTED RATE, WE KNOW WHAT THE PERCENTAGE ABOVE IS.

BEFORE THE VOTE IS TAKEN AND AFTER THE MISSION IS MADE I WOULD LIKE TO DO THAT ASKED MR.

MAYOR, ASK HER FOR MASS. >> GOOD EVENING. THANK YOU FOR PUTTING THE PUBLIC SPEAKERS FIRST. WE APPRECIATE THAT AND THANK YOU COMMISSIONER FOR VOTING FOR THE ROLLBACK. IT IS APPRECIATED., IF YOU KNOW HOW DIFFICULT IT IS TO HAVE A

SMALL BUSINESS AND RIGHT NOW THIS IS NOT THE TIME TO BE RAISING TAXES.>> WE NEED YOUR

NAME AND ADDRESS. >> BARBECUED BARBECUED 2009 SUNRISE DOCTOR.

>>, IF YOU HAVE ANY IDEA HOW DIFFICULT IT IS FOR BUSINESSES AND CUSTOMERS ARE NONEXISTENT AND THE LANDLORDS HAVE NOT STOPPED BREATHING DOWN THE NEXT AND UTILITY COMPANIES STILL KEEP BUILDING. THEY HAVE TO KEEP TO THE ROLLBACK RATE AND IT SHOWS YOU CARE ABOUT THE COMMUNITY AND HAVE COMPASSION FOR WHAT THEY ARE GOING THROUGH AND YOU CAN PUT EVERYTHING ON HOLD AND I WILL NOT MICROMANAGER BUDGET. JUST TELL THE DEPARTMENT HEADS PLEASE CUT 10 PERCENT AND THAT IS NOT HARD TO DO. I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE CITY GOVERNMENT CAN'T DO THAT AS WELL. 10 PERCENT OR WHATEVER PERCENTAGE YOU WANT YOU HAVE TO SHOW THAT YOU CARE ABOUT THE COMMUNITY IN YOUR OUR ELECTED OFFICIALS. WE HAVE 200 EMPLOYEES FOR CITY OF HOW MANY THOUSAND.

MOST HAVE ONE EMPLOYEE FOR EVERY -- NONEMPLOYEES ARE EMPLOYEES.IT SEEMS TO GO UP AND PERHAPS THIS IS THE YEAR TO SAY FREEZE THE HIRING. VEHICLES IS ONE OF MY PET PEEVES. LEFT FOR US, SPREAD HOW MANY VEHICLES WE HAVE.

PERHAPS WE SHOULD GET RID OF MOST OF THE VEHICLES AND LET. OF THE 20 PERCENT.

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I WILL SAVE A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF MONEY. I'VE LIVED HERE 20 YEARS I'VE HEARD THE MARINA AND GOLF COURSE BEEN LOSING MONEY EVER SINCE I'VE BEEN HERE.

WERE LOOKING AT FINDING A BUYER FOR THIS TO AND IT WOULD BE A LOT SIMPLER TO GIVE IT TO SOMEONE ELSE. . SOMETHING NEW I WOULD REQUEST IT SINCE YOU ARE TRYING TO HELP US AS A COMMUNITY. INITIAL REPORT OF HOW YOU SAVE THIS MONEY. YOUR OWN EXCELLENT AND SPENDING MONEY BUT A DIFFERENT APPROACH WOULD BE YEARS MONTHLY OR EVERY SIX MONTHS HERE IS HOW WE HAVE SAVED YOUR MONEY AND THIS IS HOW WE CUT YOUR TAXES UNDER CONTROL.THE COMMUNITY HAS TO DO THAT RIGHT NOW.

THERE'S A LOT OF PEOPLE ON UNEMPLOYMENT. CERTAINLY COULD HELP US WITH THAT. I HAVE ONE COMMENT FROM US CAN'T ABOUT SAVING MONEY.

EACH MONTH IN REVENUE AND EXPENDITURES IT LISTS HOW MUCH CITY STAFF AND CITY EXPENSES ARE COMPARED TO WHAT IS BUDGETED FOR IT 75 PERCENT AND EXPENSES ARE 58 PERCENT OF WHAT IS BUDGETED AND WERE SUPPOSED TO BE AT 75 TO THEIR SAVINGS RIGHT THERE TOMORROW NOR STAFF AND DEPARTMENT HEADS ARE WORKING VERY HARD TO WATCH EVERY PENNY OF YOUR SPENDING SO

THANK YOU. >> MR. MIKE DORAN. >> GOOD EVENING.

SUSTAINING APPEAR TO ADD MY VOICE TO THOSE WHO SPOKE TO HIM TODAY.

I THINK WHAT YOU HAVE AND NO SURPRISE ANYBODY IS A COMMUNITY THAT HAS BEEN HIT BY A SUCKER PUNCH IN THE ROLLBACK RATE WOULD HELP THEM CATCH HER BREATH AND I THINK THERE ARE A LOT OF HIS FATHER WHO ARE HAVING TO TIGHTEN THEIR BELTS AND IS IT TOO MUCH AS FOR THE CITY TO DO THE SAME. I THINK IT'S IRONIC THAT THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT'S REACTION TO THE CRISIS IS TO GIVE PEOPLE MONEY BACK IN THE PROPOSAL HERE IS TO TAKE MORE MONEY.

AND AT THE END OF THE DAY PLENTY OF GREAT ANALYSIS RECOMMENDATIONS THEM TO SAVE THAT MONEY, I WILL NOT GOING TO THAT BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY THIS IS A TIME TO REALLY EXPLORE 21 OF THIS OFFICE AND HOW YOU CAN HELP PEOPLE NOT JUST USED TO LIKE BILL PARKS COULD DO SOMETHING FOR THE PEOPLE OF THE PEOPLE OF THE CITY.

>> MR. MIKE CREDE. >> HELLO. MIKE CREDE 2739 OCEAN HELLO.

MIKE CREDE 2739 OCEAN OAKS DOCTOR NORTH, FERNANDINA BEACH. I STAND BEFORE YOU TO SAY MANY THINGS THAT HAVE ALREADY BEEN SAID BUT I THINK SOME OF THE MOST IMPORTANT TO BE SAID DESERVE A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF REDUNDANCY.'M HERE IN FULL SUPPORT OF THE PEOPLE OF COMMON SENSE FERNANDINA. I ALSO STAND BEFORE YOU THAT A MULTIHUED URGE TWO THINGS.

NUMBER ONE, URGE YOU TO SUPPORT THE ROLLBACK MILLAGE RATE BECAUSE THE SECOND THING I ALSO PURGE IS THE FISCAL RESTRAINT THAT NOT ONLY OUR PRESENT CIRCUMSTANCES THAT THE COMMISSIONER MENTIONED EXISTS BUT ALSO BECAUSE FISCAL RESTRAINTS IN MY MIND INTO MY PROFESSIONAL LIFE IS INDEED THE BLOCKING AND TACKLING OF BUDGET MANAGEMENT IT'S AN ABSOLUTE IMPERATIVE I BELIEVE WAS SEPARATE ME FROM ONCE NOT ONLY TODAY BUT IS A FUNDAMENTAL

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BEHAVIOR GOING FORWARD IN THE MANNER IN WHICH A BUDGET OR SPENDING IN OUR CITY.

IN MY PROFESSIONAL LIFE, I HAVE BUILT MANY BUDGETS AND TORN THEM APART.

I'VE CUT DOWN THE WEEDS WITH THEM AND I'VE GONE THROUGH THEM ON BYLINE.

THAT IS EXACTLY THE SECOND THING I AM WORKING YOU GENTLEMEN TO DO AS PART OF THE PROBABLY TRUST THAT WE HAVE GIFTED YOU WITH. I WILL NOT STAND HERE AND PRESUME TO TELL YOU WHAT IS ESSENTIAL AND WHAT IS NONESSENTIAL.

I AM NOT NEARLY AS FAMILIAR AS A LOT OF PEOPLE IN THIS ROOM WITH THE INNER WORKINGS AND HIDDEN MECHANISMS OF WHAT MAKES A CITY GO. I WILL TELL YOU THIS.

I WILL TELL YOU ALL OF THE TIMES I HAVE BUILT BUDGETS AND GO THROUGH BUDGETS ON BYLINE TO SEPARATE NEEDS FROM ONCE AND IT IS SOMETHING THAT IS IMPERATIVE AND IT IS THE HARDER RIGHT VERSUS THE EASIER WRONG AND I IMPLORE YOU TO DO IT. THAT IS ALL I HAVE TO SAY.

THANKS A MILLION. >> GOOD EVENING. THANK YOU FOR LISTENING TO US.

MY NAME IS SUSAN AND I'M FROM 1970 NORTH FLETCHER. AND I AM ASKING TO RETURN TO THE ROLLBACK RATE AND TO CRAFT A BUDGET BASED ON AUSTERITY. HE WAS OUR GOVERNMENT OFFICIALS NEED TO OPERATE IN THE REALITY OF EVERY AMERICAN FAMILY AND OUR LOCAL BUSINESSES.

I PERSONALLY DID NOT FIND IT DIFFICULT TO SEE WHERE CUTS SHOULD BE CONSIDERED AND I WON'T EVEN BROACH THE MILLIONS IN THE MARINA OR WATERFRONT PARK.

ALMOST EVERY BUSINESS IN TODAY'S ECONOMY THE CITY SHOULD IMPLEMENT AN IMMEDIATE HIRING FREEZE WITH NO CONVERSION FROM PART-TIME TO FULL-TIME. I DON'T THINK NOT HIRING CODE ENFORCEMENT WILL SUFFER DOUBLY 50. CONSIDERING THE FOLLOWING FOR THE COMMUNITY BUT ARE THEY NECESSARY IN THIS CURRENT CLIMATE.

THE $400,000 TO MADRID'S TO MADRID'S PART SIMMONS RD., PARK.

I BELIEVE WE FAILED TO GET THE I BELIEVE WE FAILED TO GET THE $200,000 GRANT MONEY AND PARTS REPRESENT USE $2000 TAB DESIGNS AND SURVEY WORK, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE PART COST IS AFTER THAT REALITY AND OTHERS EXAMPLES CONVERTING MLK PRACTICE FIELD 230,000 CONNEXUS NUMBER SIX 88,000. SMALL LINE ITEMS SUCH AS SHADE STRUCTURE 20,000 AND BUCCANEER FIELD AT HUNDRED 50,000 AND THESE ARE JUST A FEW. AND FINALLY $145,000 IN DONATIONS AND WHY DOES THE CITY DONATE OUR TAXES. THE GOVERNMENT HAS MANY PROGRAMS SUCH AS UNEMPLOYMENT AND SNAP AND TEMPORARY ASSISTANCE AND MEDICAID IN STIMULUS AND TEMPORARY FOOD AND CASH ASSISTANCE TO NAME A FEW. CHARITIES ARE THERE TO FILL THE GAP. I DO NOT LIKE GOVERNMENT WITH THE CITY DECIDING WHERE I DONATE MY MONEY. WE AS CITIZENS EXPECTED THE LEAD WHICH MEANS MAKING DIFFICULT DECISIONS. I URGE YOU TO RETURN TO THE ROLLBACK RATE WORKED HARD TO CURVE SPENDING SO WE CAN EMERGE FROM THIS HELP THE CITY TO GO BACK TO CAPITAL INVESTMENTS IN

WHEN WE ARE HEALTHY AND STRONG. >> THANK YOU. MR. KEVIN MOODY.

>> QUESTION. MA'AM, AS FAR AS THE SIMMONS PARK, DO YOU REALIZE THAT PEOPLE HAVE DONATED $80,000 THROUGH EIGHT FLAGS TO HELP BUILD THE PARK ALONG WITH $20,000 AND IN-KIND DONATIONS. I GUESS THERE IS A FAIRLY LARGE NUMBER OF PEOPLE WHO WOULD LIKE

TO SEE THEM MOVE FORWARD. >> AND I MIGHT ADD THAT THE PART IN THE PREVIOUS YEAR IT

MAY HAVE BEEN VIABLE BUT THINGS HAVE CHANGED. >> THAT IS IMPACT FEES.

IT DOESN'T AFFECT THE TAX RATE. >> I'M STILL SUGGESTING TO YOU THAT WE NEED TO BE A LITTLE WISER ON SPENDING TODAY THAT WOULD BE ONE OF THEM. JUST BECAUSE SOMETHING WAS DECIDED TO MONEY WAS SPENT DOESN'T MEAN WE NEED TO MOVE FORWARD.

MY SON FOR THAT CONSIDERATION. > MY LAST COMMENT. I DONATED, MY WIFE AND I HAVE WORKED TO BRING MEALS ON WHEELS AND I WAS JUST THAT YOU VOLUNTEER TO DO THAT BECAUSE

THE LOOK ON THE PEOPLE'S FACES. >> EXCUSE ME. DON'T INSULT ME.

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I VOLUNTEER AT THE HOPE HOUSE AND THAT IS MY PERSONAL CHOICE. A MESS NEED NOT TO DECIDE WHERE TO SUBMIT MY MONEY IN TEXAS CHARITY. EXCUSE ME SIR.Y THE WAY HAVE A BUSINESS THAT IS CLOSED MY HUSBAND'S BUSINESS IS CLOSED AND I'M NOT EMPLOYED SO DON'T REFLECT AS IF I KNOW WHERE MY MONEY IS OR WHERE IT SHOULD BE SPENT.

ASKING FOR MORE TAX MONEY AND I'M SAYING YOU SHOULD. IT IS MY SUGGESTION AS CITIZEN.

>> THANK YOU. >> MR. KEVIN MOODY. >> KEVIN MOONEY 997 OCEAN BLUFF. DIDN'T WANT TO FORGET TO ANNOUNCE MYSELF.

I BELIEVE THAT WE SHOULD GO WITH THE ROLLBACK RATE AND HONESTLY I'M INCLINED TO SAY WE SHOULD DROP THE RATE EVEN LOWER. I KNOW YOU CANNOT DO THAT BUT I THINK SMALL GOVERNMENT IS BEST GOVERNMENT SO AM ALSO A NUMBERS GUY AND I TOOK A LOOK AT THE CITY MANAGER'S PROPOSED BUDGET AND FOUND SOME FASCINATING NUMBERS AND THAT AND ASSOCIATED WITH THE CITY 'S OF THE BUDGET SHOWS FIGURES BACK TO 2002 AND THERE'S A TABLE NEAR THAT TALKS ABOUT THE 2002 FROM EDINA HAD A POPULATION OF 11,238 PEOPLE AND ACCORDING TO THE CENSUS BUREAU, THE POPULATION LAST YEAR WAS WAS 13,169 PEOPLE. BUT IT'S A 17 PERCENT INCREASE.

THE BUDGET THAT IS PROPOSED SHOWS THERE HAS BEEN A REVENUE INCREASE IN THAT SAME TIMEFRAME OF 246 PERCENT AND 17 PERCENT INCREASE IN POPULATION AND TO ENTER 46 PERCENT INCREASE IN REVENUE AND THE GENTLEMAN AT THE END HAD AN IMPASSIONED PLEA FOR CONSIDERING INFLATION IN THE RATE THAT YOU'RE ABOUT TO CHOOSE. THE COMPOUND INFLATION RATE SINCE 2002 IS 43.3 PERCENT. 246 PERCENT WHICH WAS INCREASE IN REVENUES, 43.3 PERCENT.

I HAVE OWNED MY HOME SINCE 1994. SINCE TODAY WE BOTH AT HOME ON LC GREAT INCREASE IN THE SERVICE LEVEL THAT I GET FROM THE CITY.

AND I KNOW THE DECISIONS OVER TIME ARE NOT WANTS TO HAVE MADE BUT I WOULD ASK YOU TO CONSIDER THE STATISTICS AND ESCAPING WHEN YOU DECIDE ON YOUR VOTE. SMALL GOVERNMENT IS THE BEST GOVERNMENT AND SINCE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT MILLAGE RATE,. YOU'RE THE CITY MANAGER RIGHT.

> YES SIR. >> I LOOKED AT THE TABLE THEY PUT IN THEIR AND FROM 2005 2006, AND THAT BUDGET THERE WAS A DROP IN THE MILLAGE RATE. SAME THING IN 2000 62,007.

WHAT HAPPENED DURING THAT TIMEFRAME. >> RECESSION.

>> SO WHERE ARE WE NOW? DON'T KNOW IF IT WILL BE A RECESSION THESE GENTLEMEN WHO

INDICATED TOUGH TIMES AHEAD. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. MR. MICHAEL.

>> THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY. MY NAME IS MIKE SPANO.

I WILL KEEP THIS SHORT. YOU HAVE TALKED TO WERE YOU'RE PROBABLY GOING TO LAND TONIGHT AND I SUPPORT YOU. EFFECTIVELY GOING TO THE ADJUSTED ROLLBACK RATE WOULD MAKE SENSE. I BELIEVE WHAT YOU HAVE HEARD TONIGHT FOR MANY OF THESE WITNESSES WHILE HEARTFELT AND HONEST IS BASICALLY A FUNDAMENTAL MISUNDERSTANDING OF GOVERNMENTAL FUNDING AND HAVE THE CITY WORKS. AS SOMEONE WHO IS AN CITY

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OFFERED ONLY THE OFTEN THE SHORTAGES AND LABOR AND MANPOWER NEED TO MAKE THE CITY WORK. MAYBE THESE FOLKS DON'T FILL IT IN THE NEIGHBORHOODS BUT I FEEL IT IN MINE. I WOULD ENCOURAGE YOU TO CONTINUE TO FUND ESSENTIAL SERVICES SUCH AS POLICE AND FIRE AND WE HAVE NEVER NEEDED A PARKS AND RECREATION LIKE WE DO DURING THIS PERIOD OF PROPOSED ISOLATION. THE SMALL CITY CONTRIBUTIONS TO OUR CHARITABLE PARTNERS ARE HELPING OUR RESIDENTS WITH FOOD AND CHILDREN HEALTHCARE.

PLEASE DO NOT LIMIT THE FUNDING NEEDED OKAY THE ESSENTIAL SERVICES.

MOST OF GOVERNMENTAL BUDGETING FOR MANY YEARS AND I'VE CUT A LOT OF BUDGETS.

ENTER BUDGET DOWNTURNS. THE SUN WILL COME OUT ON THE ROAD AND YOU WANT TO BE READY TO MOVE FORWARD ON A LOT OF PROJECTS FROM THAT HAPPENS. TWO OF YOU WILL NOT BE HERE.

FOR SURE. MARRIAGE IS TO LEAVE THIS BOARD AND BUDGET IN GOOD SHAPE OF THE PEOPLE THAT FOLLOW ONE AND TO CONTINUE WITH THE ESSENTIAL PROJECTS THAT WE HAVE STARTED IN THE PIPELINE. PROJECTS LIKE THE MARINA, THE RIVERFRONT RESILIENCY PLANNING TO PROTECT THE DOWNTOWN HISTORIC DISTRICT AND TO BUILD THE LONG-AWAITED WATERFRONT PARK. MAINTENANCE OF EXISTING FACILITIES LIKE CITY HALL AND LAND CONSERVATION. THIS IS NOT THE TIME TO TAKE THE EYES OF THE BALL.

CONTROLS INCLUDING THE PROPOSED SCHOOLS I KNOW THERE ARE OTHER PROJECTS SUCH AS BEACH ACCESS.

FOLKS SAY WE DON'T NEED TO REPLACE THE BOARDWALK AT NORTH BEACH, I'M SURE MR. MARTIN WILL TELL YOU WE NEED TO DO THAT SOONER RATHER THAN LATER. IT IS NOT SAFE AS IT IS RIGHT NOW. I ASK YOU TO CONTINUE TO DO THIS IMPORTANT WORK IN YOUR ON THE RIGHT TRACK AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR EFFORT AND I THINK YOU WILL GET WHERE YOU NEED TO BE

TONIGHT.HANK YOU. >> THAT CONCLUDES THE PUBLIC SPEAKERS UNLESS SOMEBODY ELSE.

I'M OPEN TO EMOTION AND I DON'T SEE ANY LIGHTS ON. HE RECOGNIZED.

>> I'M A LITTLE CONFUSED AND I WILL MAKE A MOTION. I THOUGHT THE ROLLBACK WAS 5.3.

>> 5.2977. >> WITHOUT INFLATION. >> TO CLARIFY AND FOR THE GENERAL PUBLIC, THE ROLLBACK RATE IS IS 5.2977 IN THE ADJUSTED ROLLBACK RATE WHICH IS THE HIGHEST YOU CAN GO BACK WITH ONLY THREE VOTES IS 5.4683.

IN THE PROPOSED BUDGET INCLUDES THE MILLAGE RATE OF IN THE PROPOSED BUDGET INCLUDES THE MILLAGE RATE OF 5.8553 WHICH BECAUSE THAT EXCEEDS THE ADJUSTED ROLLBACK RATE REQUIRES

FOUR VOTES. >> ONLY COMMISSION TO GO TO THE ROLLBACK RATE AS STATED OF OF

5.4530. >> THAT IS THE ADJUSTED. >> VICE MAYOR, IT IS ADDING THE OPERATIONAL WITH THE DEBT. PIVOTAL RESOLUTION WILL CRAFT WILL INCLUDE BOTH THE VOTER APPROVED DEBT WHICH IS NOT PART OF THIS DISCUSSION. THAT IS NOT PART OF THIS DISCUSSION. THAT IS .1553 MEALS. WHAT THE VICE MAYOR HAS JUST OFFERED IS THE COMBINED MILLAGE RATE OF THE ROLLBACK RATE 5.2977 + THE VOTER APPROVED DEBT .15534

TOTAL MILLAGE TO BE LEVIED OF 5.4530. >> THANK YOU.

>> CITY ATTORNEY. >>.

THE FLOOR IS ROLLBACK RATE WHICH IS NO TAX INCREASE UNDER THE LAW.

MR. MARTIN STATED THE VOTER DEBT MILLAGE IN THE PROPOSED MILLAGE RATE AND THAT IS ALL WE NEED TO ANNOUNCE. IF THIS MOTION DOES NOT PASS AND THERE'S ANOTHER ONE I WILL

SAY WITH INCREASES. >> COMMISSIONER ROSSI WERE RECOGNIZED.

>>, AT SOME POINT EMBRACE THE ROLLBACK RATE AND AT THIS POINT I WOULD LIKE TO GO TO THE ADJUSTER ROLLBACK RATE AND GO THROUGH THE BUDGETING PROCESS AND CONFIRM WHAT OUR OPTIONS

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ARE WITH FINANCE IN THE MARINA. WE HAVE A SUSTAINABLE BUDGET GOING FORWARD IN THE FUTURE AND I MAY GO BACK TO THE ROLLBACK RATE AT A FUTURE TIME FOR RIGHT NOW WITH SUPPORT GOING TO THE

ADJUSTED ROLLBACK. >> YOUR SLIP 5.4623. >> WAY OF MOTION.

>> WHEN YOU SAY JUST WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT THE 5.463. >> THANK YOU.

IF YOUR NEXT RECOGNIZED. >> HAVING PARTICIPATED IN ONE OF THESE BUDGET SESSIONS AND HAVING WATCHED OTHER, THE PRIMARY PROBLEM I HAVE IS THAT I DON'T HAVE CONFIDENCE THAT ONCE YOU SET A RATE THAT YOU WILL THEN LOWER IT. I HAVE ZERO CONFIDENCE THAT WILL HAPPEN AND AS A CONSEQUENCE I WILL NOT SUPPORT THE ADJUSTED ROLLBACK RATE.

'VE SEEN THIS EVENT SEVERAL TIMES AND IT IS ROOTED IN MY CONFIDENCE IN ACCOMPLISHING

THAT SO I WILL NOT SUPPORT THAT. >> COMMISSIONER CHAPMAN.

>> I AGREE WITH COMMISSIONER ROSS AND I THINK I FITTING IN THE ADJUSTED RATE BECAUSE WE CAN ALWAYS GO DOWN BUT AS WE GO THROUGH THE BUDGET WORKSHOPS I WAS THE LIKE TO SEE THE LIST OF CUTS BETWEEN THE ADJUSTED ROLLBACK IN THE ROLLBACK RATE SO I CAN SEE WHERE THE CUTS ARE AND I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO GET SOME INPUT FROM STAFF AS TO THE EFFECTS OF THE CUTS.

I THINK OTHERWISE WE JUST REMEMBERS AROUND AND I WOULD THREE MR. MERRITT REQUESTED CITY MANAGER DEVELOP A LIST OF CUTS WHAT WOULD BE THE ADJUSTED RATE TO THE ROLLBACK RATE AND A LITTLE DESCRIPTION OF THE IMPACTS THOSE WILL HAVE PROJECTED IMPACTS ON THOSE WILL

HAVE ON SERVICES TO THE CITY. THAT IS OFF. >> VICE MAYOR YOUR RECOGNIZED.

>> HAD A MOTION. >> VERSATILE DISCUSSION SO THE OF THE RESUME OF WHAT HAS NOT COMPORTED IS WHAT THE IMPACT OF HOW MUCH OF THE REVENUE WE WOULD GET IN THIS ONLY AFFECTS THE GENERAL REVENUE AND WE DO GOOD I'VE FORGOTTEN THE AMOUNT OF FURTHER REVENUE FROM THEIR CELL SITES AND SO ON IN HIS REPORTS AND HIS PROJECTIONS STILL HAVE NOT COME IN SO WE ARE VOTING ON THIS WITHOUT KNOWING WHAT THE TOTAL REVENUE LOSSES ARE PROJECTED REVENUE LOSSES SO THAT IS ANOTHER REASON I WOULD PREFER TO GO TO THE ADJUSTER ROLLBACK RATE WHEN THAT DATA COMES IN FOR THE NEXT COUPLE WEEKS AND CONSIDER GOING TO THE ROLLBACK RATE.

DON'T KNOW WHAT YOUR EXPERIENCE HAS BEEN IN THE PAST BUT WHEN SHE SAID RATE OF NOT GOING BACK AND I'M FLEXIBLE AND GOING BACK IF WE CAN SHOW THAT WE CAN DELIVER OUR SERVICES AT THAT

RATE. >> VICE MAYOR YOUR LIGHT CAME ON FIRST.

IT NEVER GOES BACK. THAT IS CRAZY. WE'RE TALKING ABOUT REAL SIMPLE

STUFF AND WE CAN MAKE IT WORK WITH THE ROLLBACK RATE. >> WILL JUST SAVE THIS FOR THE FINAL TIME. WE ARE IN EXTRAORDINARY TIMES. NOT SEEN IN 100 YEARS AND ANYONE WHO SINCERELY BELIEVES THAT WE ARE IN -- ON ECONOMIC BETTERMENT IS NOT FACING REALITY AND WHEN OUR OWN TDC SAYS REVENUES WILL DROP 50 TO 60 PERCENT AND I HAVE A LOT OF

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RESPECT FOR BILLS ABILITY OF PROJECTION REVENUES AND HOW LONG IT TAKES TO REBOUND WHAT SHE SUFFERED A PROCESSION. THE PEOPLE OF THE CITY DESERVE THE ROLLBACK RATE BECAUSE THINGS THINGS ARE GONNA GET WORSE AND EVERY PENNY IN THEIR POCKET COUNTS AND WE HAVE ONE SPEAKER WHO IS UNEMPLOYED AND LOSS HER BUSINESS AND JUST MULTIPLY THAT.

THANK YOU. >> ENOUGH FOR THE LIGHTS TO HAVE A MISSION IN THE SECOND AND WE DON'T REQUIRE TRIM NOTICE NOTIFICATIONS WITH THIS TIME WE CALL THE VOTE IN THIS IS TO VOTE ON THE ROLLBACK RATE BY THE VICE MAYOR. YOU WANT TO STATE THE NUMBER

AGAIN. >> 5.4530 MILLS. ROLLBACK RATE IN THE APPROVED

DEBT. >> THE SECOND CONFIRMS THAT NUMBERS.

>> YES OR. >> MADAME ROLE. >> YES.>> YES.

>> NO. >> NO. >> NO.

>>, MAKE A MOTION TO ADOPT THE ADJUSTED ROLLBACK RATE. >> I WILL SECONDED.> A MISSION TO SECOND AND CITY ATTORNEY IF WE CAN GET THAT FIRST GET THE TRIM NOTES

REFERENCE. >> THIS IS REQUIRED FOR THE NEXT TWO HEARINGS BUT WILL DO IT TODAY. THE TENTATIVE MILLAGE RATE FOR FISCAL YEAR 2022 2021 IS IS 5.4683 MILLS THAT IS THE ADJUSTED ROLLBACK RATE. AND IT IS GREATER THAN THE ROLLBACK WHICH IS 5.2977 MILLS AND IT EXCEEDS ROLLBACK RATE BY 3.22 PERCENT.

TRANSLATED THAT IS A 3.22 PERCENT TAX INCREASE AND BY LAW WE HAVE TO SAY THAT AND IN REALITY BECAUSE OF HOW PROPERTY VALUES WORK, MANY OF US WILL SEE IT AS A TAX REDUCTION AND WE WOULD HAVE SEEN THAT WITH THE CITY MANAGER'S PROPOSED RATE AS WELL.

BUT AS 3.22 PERCENT ABOVE THE TENTATIVE DEBT SERVICE MILLAGE RATE IS THE SAME, .1553 MILLS AND THE COMBINED MILLAGE RATE ON THE FLOOR IS 5.6236 MILLS. THANK YOU.

>> COMMISSIONER ROSSI RECOGNIZED. >> COMMISSIONER YOU RECOGNIZE.

> ON THE FINAL VOTE WHAT IS A REQUIREMENT ON THAT THE PAST. > THREE CLICKS THE MOTION ON

THE FLOOR RIGHT NOW. >> THE FINAL SO WE COME BACK. >> IT DEPENDS ON WHAT THE MILLAGE IS. IF YOUR INCREASING TAXES THAT IS WHEN YOU GET IT.

WHEN YOU GO TO THE ADJUSTED RATE IT IS THE SAME THREE. AT THIS RATE STAYS THE SAME DOESN'T GO DOWN, ASSUMING THAT THIS MOTION PASSES THEN WE WILL STILL REQUIRE THREE VOTES.

>> ON THE SECOND VOTE. >> WHEN WE ADOPT THE MILLAGE RATE HER MENTALLY.

WE WILL NOT PAY THE CITY MANAGER'S PROPOSED BUDGET SITE. AT THE MOTION PASSES, WE HAVE

TO WORK THIS AND THERE IS NO LONGER PROPOSED BUDGET. >> THANK YOU.

>> THREE VOTES WOULD BE REQUIRED FOR THIS TO PASS THE PERMANENT MILLAGE FOR MILLAGE FOR 20 2120 SO IT IS PERFECTLY CLEAR, GOING FORWARD, WE CAN DECREASES RATE AND WE JUST

CAN'T GO ABOVE IT. >> CORRECT. >> IF WE HAVE OUR WORKSHOPS AND WHATEVER WE COME UP WITH $3 MILLION WORTH OF SAVINGS, WE COULD EVEN GO BELOW THE

ROLLBACK. >> THE REASON FOR THAT IS BECAUSE THOSE NOTICES WOULD GET IN THE MAIL FROM THE PROPERTY APPRAISER AND SHE ASSISTS AN AMOUNT WITHIN 55 DAYS OF SITTING RATE. WE HAVE A CERTIFIED TEXTUAL INFORMATION AND WHAT TAXABLE VALUES ARE ON JULY 1 AND ALL THIS WORKS FROM THAT DATE. WHEN THOSE NOTICES GO OUT THAT IS A REASON WHY YOU'RE SETTING THE CEILING TONIGHT SO FROM THIS BOAT TONIGHT THEN WITHIN THE NEXT FEW DAYS SHE HAS TO SEND THIS PROPOSED MILLAGE RATE TO THE PROPERTY APPRAISER TO

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THEN SEND OUT THE TRIM NOTICES AND THAT IS WHY YOU CAN GO DOWN BUT YOU CANNOT GO UP.

>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >> I HAVE A MOTION FOR THE TRIM.

>> COMMISSIONER ROSS. >> YES.> YES. >> NO.

>> NO. >> YES. >> THAT COMPLETES OUR AGENDA.

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>> ONE ITEM, DOES HOUSEKEEPING BENEFIT DIMENSION AT THE BEGINNING.THIS WILL TAKE TWO MINUTES. AT THE LAST CITY COMMISSION MEETING, WE APPROVE RESOLUTION 2020 ãSUBSEQUENTLY THE CITY MANAGER HAS WANT NOTICES AND BACK IS VICE MAYOR CORRECTLY.

WE DID NOT FOLLOW THE RFP. I WILL MAKE A MOTION TO RECONSIDER RESOLUTION 2020 ã02

AND HAVE IT PLACED ON THE SEPTEMBER -- THE FIRST. >> THE FIRST.

>> HAVE A PLACE ON SEPTEMBER 1 CITY COMMISSION MEETING FOR RECONSIDERATION I THINK HE

PRAYED FOR CLARIFICATION, >> JUST FOR CLARIFICATION, HE VOTED RESULT OF THE VOTE WAS SUCCESSFUL, HE DOES HAVE THE OPTION TO REVISIT AND BRING THINGS BACK UP FOR RECONSIDERATION WITHOUT BEING AN AGENDA FOR THIS RIGHT NOW. WE DON'T REQUIRE A VOTE.

>> HAVE A MOTION. >> SECOND. >> HAVE A MOTION AND THE

SECOND. >> JUST SO IT'S CRYSTAL-CLEAR BECAUSE IT'S NOT.

WHAT WE WILL DO IS REVISIT THIS ON SEPTEMBER 1. >> THE CITY COMMISSION WILL GET A RECOMMENDATION AND WILL ADD SOMETHING TO THIS IF YOU DON'T MIND.

AS YOU ALL KNOW, THE EVALUATION COMMITTEE MR. MARTIN APPOINTED PAULINE THE COMPTROLLER AND NATHAN THEIR COURT MANAGER MYSELF AS THE CITY ATTORNEY LAST NIGHT AT THE MARINA ADVISORY BOARD WE ASKED FOR FEEDBACK AND QUESTIONS AND THEY WILL CONTINUE TO PROVIDE US FEEDBACK THROUGH EMAILS BASED ON A QUESTION. THEIR PART OF THE EVALUATION PROCESS AND WILL BE CONSIDERED THEM. I SPOKE WITH MR. LEBOVITZ TODAY IN A REASON HE'S MAKING THIS MISSION TODAY. I DIDN'T THINK IT HAD TO BE MADE TODAY PATHETICALLY MADE AT THE NEXT REGULAR MEETING IS THAT THERE IS AN APPROVED RESOLUTION TO HAVE A CONTRACT NEGOTIATED WITH OASIS. OASIS HAS NOT BEEN CHOSEN, IT IS JUST THE CITY COMMISSION'S VOTE ACCEPTED THE RECOMMENDATION OF THE CITY MANAGER AND APPROVED THE CITY MANAGER ME TO NEGOTIATE A CONTRACT WITH OASIS.

THAT IS WHERE WE ARE. IF WE CANNOT COME TO A NEGOTIATION OR WE CAN'T COME TO A NUMBER FOR TERMS OF THE CONTRACT AND WE HAVE TO DO SOMETHING ELSE BESIDES WORKING WITH OASIS SO THAT IS WHAT IS APPROVED AND THE QUESTIONER FEELS LIKE COMMISSIONER FEELS LIKE HE WANTS THAT IS OPEN WITH HER SON A DECISION ALREADY MADE AND THAT'S WHY HE'S MAKING

THAT. DID I SAY THAT RIGHT? >> THANK YOU.

I READ THE RESOLUTION. THE RESOLUTION SAYS TO DECIDE THAT MANAGING THE MARINA TO OASIS, BUT THAT IS THE EXACT WORDING OF THE RESOLUTION. WHY AM PROPOSING THIS IS TO UNDO THAT ACTION. SO THAT WE CAN RECONSIDER RECOMMENDATION OF THE OTHERS IN

THE COMMITTEE IN SEPTEMBER. >> IT WAS AN ANNOUNCEMENT WILL BRING IT BACK UP AT THE NEXT MEETING. I DO HAVE A MOTION IN THE SECOND REVISIT MADAME CLERK

CALL THAT. >> YES, YES. >> YES.

>> YES. >> GOOD TO GO.HANK YOU VERY MUCH.

>> MR. MAYOR, IF YOU PLEASE. TODAY PAULINE AND NATHAN AND I MET AND WE DISCUSSED AND HAVE BEEN GETTING FEEDBACK AND WE GOT FEEDBACK FROM THE MARINA ADVISORY BOARD AND CITIZENS THAT ARE BASICALLY SAYING THE PROCESS IS STILL FLAWED. IF WE DON'T HAVE ALL OF THE PROPOSERS MAKE PRESENTATIONS TO THE EVALUATION COMMITTEE AND IF WE DON'T HAVE SOMEBODY WITH MARINA EXPERIENCE AND EXPLAIN THE SITE THAT WE DON'T HAVE ENGINEERS SIT ON OUR EVALUATION COMMITTEES TO PICK ENGINEERS BUT IT WILL NOT STOP AND WE RESPECT THAT.

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WE MET TODAY AND WHAT WE DECIDED TO DO WAS TO HAVE MARINA PERSON JOIN OUR COMMITTEE AND WE SHARED IT WITH DALE AND SO WE ASKED COLEMAN SLINGSHOT TO JOIN OUR EVALUATION COMMITTEES TO MR. COLEMAN LANCTOT WHO IS ON THE MARINA ADVISORY BOARD WILL JOIN US AND HE NOT ONLY HAS MARINA EXPERIENCES, HE MANAGED THE CITY MARINA SO HE HAS SOME SKILLS IF ANYBODY ASKED WHY OF ALL THE MEMBERS WE CHOSE HIM, HE HAS MANAGED MARINA AND HE HAS MARINA EXPERIENCE AND THE OTHER THING IS HE DOES IT HAVE A SLIT.

HE'S NOT ONE OF OUR TENANTS. THERE IS NO CONFLICT FOR HIM SO WE THOUGHT THAT WAS A CHOICE WE WILL NOT BE PERSUADED OTHERWISE. AND WE ALSO FELT LAST NIGHT THAT MARINA ADVISORY BOARD FELT RUSHED IN THE PROCESS THAT WE WERE RESTING AND CITY MANAGER WAS RETURNED SO WE HEARD THAT. THAT IS WHAT THE SEPTEMBER 1 DATE IS SO MODIFIED DATES, AUGUST 6 WHICH IS WHEN THE EVALUATION COMMITTEE WAS GOING TO MEET AT THE GOLF COURSE AND WE STILL WILL BE AT THE GOLF COURSE BUT THERE WILL BE NO EVALUATION AND WE WILL HAVE A MAXIMUM OF 15 MINUTES FOR EACH OF THE PROPOSERS TO MAKE A PRESENTATION.

THEY CAN DO IT VIRTUALLY VIA ZUNE. OR THEY CAN BE THERE IN PERSON AND WE ARE WORKING THAT OUT. ON AUGUST 13 EVALUATION COMMITTEE WILL MEET AT THE GOLF COURSE AND SCHERER EVALUATION AND COMBINED SCORING THAT THE PURCHASING AGENT WOULD DO AND THAT WOULD BE FROM 10:00 TO NOON AND AUGUST 6 IS 11:50 AT THE GOLF COURSE AND THEN INSTEAD OF A SPECIAL MEETING OF THE MARINA ADVISORY BOARD ON AUGUST 10 TO CONSIDER A RECOMMENDATION SINCE WE'RE DOING IT ON AUGUST 13, WE WOULD ASK THAT WE APPEAR AT THE REGULAR MARINA ADVISORY BOARD MEETING AUGUST 24. WHICH IS A MONDAY.

AND THERE WE WILL SHARE OUR RECOMMENDATION THEM. THE PUBLICAN MARINA ADVISORY BOARD WILL HAVE A RECOMMENDATION AND OBVIOUSLY AS OF THE 13TH GRADE THEY WILL HEAR WHAT THE RECOMMENDATION IS AND THEY WILL PRESENT AND GET IN THE OTHER FEEDBACK FROM THE MARINA ADVISORY BOARD ON AUGUST 24. THE NEXT DAY THE INFORMATION WILL BE SUBMITTED FOR INCLUSION ON THE SEPTEMBER 1 AGENDA. ANY QUESTIONS?

>> JUST FOR THE PUBLIC, THE COMMITTEE IS A CITY MANAGER'S COMMITTEE.

>> RIGHT. PART I JUST WANT TO MAKE THAT CLEAR.

AS LONG AS THE CITY MANAGER IS GOOD THERE SELECTION, I'M GOOD. >> BASED ON THE ISSUES, I COMPLETELY DIVORCE MYSELF FROM THE EVALUATION TEAM. SO IT IS IN THE HANDS OF THEM AND I HAVE FULL FAITH AND CONFIDENCE THEY WILL GET THE REVIEW NECESSARY AND PROVIDE A RECOMMENDATION BUT JUST CLARIFY I HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH EVALUATION FROM THIS POINT

FORWARD. >> THANK YOU. >> GETTING MR. LANG SHAW IS A GOOD GET. I'VE BEEN TRYING TO GET HIM TO BE ON THE BOARD OR COMMITTEE

FOREVER. >> HATES ON THE MARINA ADVISORY BOARD.

>> I BEEN TRYING TO GET A MORED.

>> GOOD CHOICE. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.NYBODY ELSE? THANK YOU VERY MUCH. LONG

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