[Call to Order] [00:00:09] GOOD EVENING, FOLKS, GO AHEAD AND CALL TO ORDER. S THIS THE FERNANDINA BEACH MEETING OFFINGS JULY THE 21, 2020. CALL THE ROLL. THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE AND THEN THE INVOAZ CASE BY STANTLEY BAPTIST CHURCH. >> GOOD EVENING. .THE FEENS CHAPTER 6 SAYS FINALLY BE STRONG IN THE LORD AND IN THE STRENGTH OF HIS MIGHT, PUT ON THE WHOLE ARMOR OF GOD THAT YOU MAY BE ABLE TO STAND AGAINST THE SCHEMES OF THE DEVIL. FOR WE DO NOT WRESTLE AGAINST FLESH AND BLOOD, AGAINST AUTHORITIES, AGAINST COSMIC POWERS OVER THIS PRESENT DARKNESS AGAINST A SPIRITUAL FORCES OF EVIL AND IN HEAVENLY PLACES. LET US PRAY. FATHER IN HEAVEN WE THANK YOU NOW FOR YOUR MANY, MANY BLESSINGS. WE THANK YOU FOR THE JOY, THE PEACE, THE STRENGTH THAT YOU BRING TO OUR LIVES, FOR THE STABILITY THAT YOU BRING IN AN UNSTABLE WORLD IN WHICH WE LIVE AND WE THANK YOU FOR ALL THAT YOU'VE DONE FOR PO WATCHING AND PROTECTING US AND KEEPING US O GOD AND WE JUST PRAY FOR CONTINUED GUIDANCE FROM YOU, CONTINUED PEACE, CONTINUED JOY THAT FLOWS FROM YOU LORD, PRAYING FOR THE PEOPLE OF THIS COMMUNITY LORD THAT YOU WOULD CONTINUE THE BIND US TOGETHER IN LOVE AND IN UNITY OF YOUR SPIRIT. O GOD BECAUSE WHERE THERE IS UNIT THERE CAN BE PEACE AND WE THANK YOU FOR THAT O LORD. LORD WE PRAY FOR WISDOM AND KNOWLEDGE AND FOR UNDERSTANDING THAT WE MIGHT GROW BETTER TOGETHER. LORD WE THANK YOU AGAIN AND WE PRAY THAT YOU WILL FORGIVE US FOR ANY WRONG THING WE HAVE DONE. WE WANT TO LIFT UP THOSE WHO HAVE BEEN SUFFERING FROM THE EFFECTS OF COVID-19, THOSE WHO HAVE LOST LIVES, THOSE WHO HAVE FAMILIES WHO HAVE LOST THEIR LOVED ONES. WE PRAY THAT YOU WILL GIVE THEM CONSOLATION, THAT UL WILL HELP THEM IN THESE DAYS OF BEREAVEMENT. WE BELIEVE AND TRUST THAT YOU WILL REVEAL THE TRUTH AT YOUR CONVENIENT TIME. WE THANK YOU FOR THAT, LORD, WE BELIEVE AND WE ARE CONVINCED THAT YOU HAVE A DIVINE PURPOSE FOR THE CURRENT CIRCUMSTANCES FOR WHICH WE ARE LIVING RIGHT NOW, FOR YOU TOLD US IN YOUR WORD THAT ALL THINGS WORK TOGETHER FOR THE GOOD OF THOSE WHO LOVE YOU AND ARE CALLED ACCORDING TO YOUR PURPOSE. WE BELIEVE YOU HAVE A DWIEF PURPOSE, HELP US O GOD TO SEE THAIT WE MAY WALK IN THIS TRUTH, IN JESUS NAME WE PRAY, AMEN. >> SECTION 4, PRESENTATION, [4.1 BUDGET SUMMARY] BUDGET SUMMARY, FOR JUNE OF 2020, KEEP IN MIND IT IS FOLLOWED BY THE PROPOSED 2020-2021 BUDGET BY THE CITY MANAGER. >> GOOD EVENING, PAULINE TESTAGROSE, CITY COMPTROLLER. WITH THE GENERAL FUND YEAR-TO-DATE REVENUES AT 86.6% OF THE ANNUAL BUDGET AND THIS IS DUE TO THE TIMING PROPERTY TAX AND LOCAL BUSINESS TAX RECEIPTS. THERE WAS AN ADDITIONAL CHART IN THE MONTHLY BUDGET REPORT WHICH SHOWS THE STATE REVENUE SOURCES. CURRENTLY THE RECEIPTS ARE AT 60% OF THE BUDGET. HOWEVER THIS INCLUDES INSURANCE PREMIUM TEAM MONEY THAT THE CITY TYPICALLY RECEIVES IN SEPTEMBER. YEAR-TO-DATE, GENERAL FUND EXPENSES ARE BELOW THE 78% MARK AT 58.8%. THIS IS DUE TO THE ADDITIONAL SUPPORT TO THE NONPROFITS. ALL INTERFUND DRFERS FOR THE MONTH HAVE BEEN COMPLETE -- TRANSFERS FOR THE FUND HAVE BEEN COMPLETED. ISSUED FOR A GENERATE FIRE TRUCK SIDEWALK STREET PAVING AND BEACH MONITORING. FOR THE ENTERPRISE FUNDS, THE GOLF COURSE REVENUES EXCEED EXPENSES DUE TO THE TRANSFER FROM THE GENERAL FUND. [00:05:01] AIRPORT REVENUES EXCEED EXPENSES PRIMARILY DUE TO THE PAYMENT OF RENT BUILDING AND LAND LEASES. ALL UTILITY FUNDS REVENUES EXCEED EXPENSES EXCEPT FOR WATER, AND IT BECAUSE AWAS ANTICIPATEDDUE TO THE WATE3 AND STORM WATER. THERE WAS A LOCK ON THE DISPOSAL. DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? >> YOU ARE RECOGNIZED SIR. >> THANK YOU MR. MAYOR. MS. TESTAGROSE, WE ARE SHOWING A SHORTFALL OF 2.9 MILLION. WHAT IS YOUR BEST GUESS ON WHERE WE'RE GOING TO END UP? >> WHILE IT'S HARD TO SAY, WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE STATE REVENUES, $1.9 MILLION IS THE STATE REVENUES BUT $229,000 OF THAT WE SHOULD COLLECT IN SEPTEMBER. THERE IS ANOTHER SCHEDULE THAT WAS IN MY REPORT WHICH BASICALLY YOU CAN SEE BY MONTH, THE APRIL MANY MAY AND JUNE ACTUALS. ANDLAST YEAR WE DIDN'T END UP AT 100% OF THE STATE BUDGETED REVENUES. THERE WERE SOME THAT WERE BELOW IT. SO IT'S A LITTLE HARD TO PREDICT. >> DO YOU THINK YOU'RE GOING TO BE SHORT A MILLION, HALF MILLION, TWO MILLION, DO YOU HAVE ANY IDEA? >> IT'S VERY HARD TO SAY. IN LOOKING AT LIKE I SAID THE STATE REVENUES, WE WERE COMING IN AT ABOUT LIKE 90%, SOMEWHERE AROUND 90%. SO WE'RE AT 60%. IF YOU FIGURE WE'RE GOING TO COLLECT MAYBE ANOTHER 30% OF THE MILLION-FIVE. >> OKAY, FAIR ENOUGH. AND I JUST WANT TO COMPLIMENT THE CITY FOR HOLDING EXPENSES DOWN. AS YOU MENTIONED THEY ARE AT 58% AND WERE 75% THROUGH THE BUDGET YEAR SO THAT'S EXCELLENT. THANK YOU. >> OKAY. >> VICE MAYOR KREGER. >> PAULINE. THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT FOR EXAMPLE LIKE BEACH RENEWAL, WE'LL PROBABLY NOT SPEND THAT THIS YEAR SO THAT WILL PROBABLY ROLL OVER TO NEXT YEAR? >> ACTUALLY WE HAVE ESTABLISHED A NEW BUDGET FOR NEXT YEAR SO THAT MONEY WOULD ROLL OVER TO THE FUND. >> THAT IS A POSITIVE THING, WE WON'T SPEND THAT MONEY. >> ANYBODY ELSE? THANK YOU VERY MUCH. [4.2 PROPOSED FY 2020/2021 BUDGET] ITEM 4.2, THIS IS THE PROPOSED FISCAL YEAR CAN 2020-2021 BUDGET. MR. MARTIN, WELCOME SIR. >> ALL RIGHT, GOOD EVENING, CITY COMMISSIONERS, PAIR AND MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC, BOTH HERE AND WATCHING ON TELEVISION OR THEIR COMPUTER. THIS IS THE INITIAL PRESENTATION OF THE PROPOSED 2020-2021 ANNUAL BUDGET. THIS IS A LACK THAT IS INCLUDED IN THE CITY CHARTER THAT REQUIRES ME TO GIVE YOU THIS BUDGET PRESENTATION. SO IT'S DETAILED IN THERE, SECTION 71 OF THE CITY CHARTER, THIS IS PART OF MY RESPONSIBILITIES TO YOU AS TO NOT ONLY TO YOU BUT ALSO TO THE COMMUNITY AS THE CITY MANAGER. LET ME FIRST PROVIDE SOME BACKGROUND FOR WHAT WENT INTO THE PREPARATION OF THIS BUDGET. BACK IN MARCH OF 2019, THE CITY AUDITOR'S RACED CONCERN OF THE CONTINUED CASH FLOW DEFICITS IN THE MARINA, APPROXIMATELY 1.5 MILLION AND THE GOLF COURSE APPROXIMATELY 1.2 MILLION. AT THE REQUEST OF THE CITY COMP COMPTROLLER, IF PRESENT BEING THEIR FINDINGS TO THE CITY COMMISSION, THEIR FINAL REPORT WAS ISSUED IN NOVEMBER AND OFFERED THE FOLLOWING RECOMMENDATIONS. THE CITY'S CURRENT MIL ELAGE R, OPERATE COST THROUGH FISCAL YEAR 2029. SECOND, THE GOLF COURSE FUNDS [00:10:03] AND MARINA FUNDS CASH FLOWS ARE STRUCTURAL REPLY UNSUSTAINABLE AND WILL REQUIRE SIGNIFICANT INCREASES TO REVENUE, OR ANNUAL CASH SUPPORT FROM THE GENERAL FUND, IN ORDER TO FUND ONGOING OPERATIONAL COSTS, DEBT SERVICE AND CAPITAL REQUIREMENTS. AND FINALLY, THE GENERAL FUND IS PROJECTED TO HAVE SUFFICIENT CASH FLOW SURPLUS TO SUPPORT THE MARINA FUND AND GOLF COURSE IF THE CITY CHOOSES TO DO SO. AND TO HIGHLIGHT, WHAT STANTEC PROVIDED TO THE CITY, THIS IS THE MARINA, IF WE MAINTAIN THE STATUS QUO. THE FIRST COLUMN IS WHAT'S BUDGETED THIS YEAR. IT SHOWS THAT WE WILL HAVE AN ACCUMULATED CASH FLOW DEFICIT OF APPROXIMATELY $1.27 MILLION. IF WE DO NOTHING EXCEPT KEEP DOING WHAT WE'VE BEEN DOING, THAT DEFICIT WILL GROW BY FISCAL YEAR 2024 TO O$3.7 MILLION. $3.. WHAT STANTEC RECOMMENDED WAS TO INFUSE THAT CASH TO START TO PAY DOWN THE DEFICIT. IN DOING THAT, THE PREVIOUS SLIDE, THE LINE ITEM THAT SAYS GENERAL FUND SUPPORT, YOU CAN SEE THAT'S CONSISTENT AT $300,000. IF WE UP THAT, THEIR SCENARIO, TO $1 MILLION THIS YEAR WHICH IS ALREADY PLANNED IN THIS YEAR'S BUDGET, $1 MILLION NEXT YEERK WHICH IS INCLUDED IN THE PROPOSED BUDGET, 1.8 MILLION, 2 MILLION AND ON 1.25 MILLION, YOU CAN SEE BY 2024 THE CUMULATIVE CASH FLOW DEFICIT HAS BEEN ELIMINATED. IN A SIMILAR MANNER, THE GOLF COURSE, 1.2 MILLION ACCUMULATED CASH DEFICIT. IF WE DO KNO NOTHING BUT KEEP DG THE SAME THING, THE CAN DEFICIT WILL GROW. AGAIN WITH CONTINUED INFUSION OF CASH FROM THE CITY'S RESERVES, THAT DEFICIT IS ELIMINATED BY 2024 AS WELL. THIS INCREASE GOES FROM APPROXIMATELY 200,000 TO $800,000. SO THE PROPOSED MILLAGE RATE IS BASED ON THE STAN TERVETIONEC RECOMMENDATION, THAT WE MAINTAIN THE SAME MILLAGE RATE WE CURRENTLY HAVE, MINUS THE ONE SHOT DEAL FOR ONE YEAR. SO THE PROPOSED -- THE BUDGET IS BASED ON A PROPOSED MILLAGE RATE OF 5.8 553 MILS. MINUS THE ONE TIME HALF MIL SCECONSERVATION MIL. TO FINANCE THE PURCHASE OF THE GREEN WAY, THAT IS REDUCED TO .1553 MILS. MILS. NOW UNDER FLORIDA STATE STATUTES, THIS PROPOSED MILLAGE RATE DOES EXCEED THE ROLL BACK RATE BY ABOUT HALF A MIL,.5576 OR 10.57%. IF THIS MILLAGE RATE IS ADOPTED IT WILL BE CONSIDERED A TAX INCREASE. HOWEVER, DESPITE THAT, BASED UPON PRELIMINARY ANALYSIS THE AMOUNT OF CITY TAMPS OWED BY MOST PROPERTY OWNERS WILL ACTUALLY DECREASE. THE ESTIMATED REDUCTION FOR CITY TAXES FOR HOMESTEADED PROPERTY, IS APPROXIMATELY 37 FOR EVERY 100, 102 FOR CONTAMINATABLE VALUE. IF YOU HAVE A NONHOMESTEADED PROPERTY YOU ARE NOT ELIGIBLE FOR THE SAVE OUR HOMES PROVISIONS, SO WHICH THE SAVE OUR HOMES PROVISION LIMITS THE INCREASE IN YOUR ASSESSED VALUE TO 3% OR THE RATE OF INFLATION WHICH IS LESS, THIS YEAR 2.3%. HOMESTEADED VALUES, THAT'S WHERE THE $102,300 COMES FROM. IF YOU ARE NOT HOMESTEADED IT VARIES GREATLY. BUT THE JIJT AVERAGE THIS YEAR WAS 6.6%. IF YOU HAVE A NONHOMESTEADED PROPERTY AND YOUR PROPERTY VALUES WENT UP BY APPROXIMATELY 6.6% YOU WILL SEE A REDUCTION OF $11 PER ROUGHLY $106,000 PER TAXABLE VALUE. THAT AGAIN VARIES GREATLY DEPENDING ON THE MARKET VALUE OF YOUR PROPERTY ESPECIALLY IF YOU ARE NOT HOMESTEADED. [00:15:03] SO THIS IS A COMPARISON OF THE MILLAGE RATES BOTH OF THIS YEAR AND OF THE PROPOSED BUDGET FOR NEXT YEAR. CAN YOU SEE THE CHANGES. THE CITY'S TAXABLE VALUE HAS INCREASED FROM 2.5 BILLION TO 2.6 BILLION. PROPERTY TAX VAUE, BASED ON THE PROPOSED MILLAGE ACTUALLY GOES DOWN. GOING DOWN FROM 15.7 MILLION TO 15.4 MILLION. GENERAL FUND REVENUES IN TOTAL ARE ALSO DOWN. YOU CAN SEE HERE THE CONSERVATION TAX REVENUE IS ELIMINATED. >>> SOME KEY CHANGES TO GENERAL FUND PERSONNEL. THE NET CHANGE IS THREE AND A HALF PEOPLE AND THESE ARE SPELLED OUT RIGHT HERE. IN THE CITY MANAGER'S DEPARTMENT, WHAT IS PROPOSED TO BE THE DEPUTY CITY MANAGER AND THE CITY ENGINEER THAT IS ACTUALLY INTENDED TO REPLACE THE RETIRING TILITIES DIRECTOR. SO THAT POSITION IS MOVED FROM THE CITY MANAGER DEPARTMENT TO THE UTILITIES DEPARTMENT. IT WILL BE FUNDED 75% THROUGH THE UTILITIES DEPARTMENT, NOT THE GENERAL FUND. FTC ALSO, THE CITY MANAGER DEPARTMENT WE'VE ADDED A PROJECT MANAGER. IN WAS DISCUSSEED WITH SEVERAL F YOU IN THE PROCESS OF PREPARING THE BUDGET. THE CITY IS IN THE L PROCESS OF REVIEWING AND REVISING OUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE. SO THIS IS A PROJECT MANAGER THAT WILL BE SOLELY DEDICATED TO WORKING ON THAT TASK. IF THE TEN, APPROXIMATELY $100,000, TO HAVE SOMEBODY DEDICATED FOR WHAT IS PLANNED TO BE TWO YEARS VERSUS HIRING A CONSULTANT WHICH WE HAD BUDGETED APPROXIMATELY $250,000. SO THIS SHOULD BE, OR SHOULD REFLECT A SAVINGS IN HAVING A DEDICATED STAFF PERSON WORK ON OUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE. AND THE FINANCE DEPARTMENT WE HAVE MOVED A PART TIME STAFF ASSISTANT TO A FULL TIME ACCOUNTING CLERK POSITION. WE RECENTLY LOST AN ACCOUNTING CLERK. AN ACCOUNTANT POSITION IS NOT -- IT IS IN THE HEAD COUNT BUT IS NOT FUNDED IN THE BUDGET. WE'VE ADDED A PLANNER, AN ADDITIONAL PLANNER TO THE PLANNING STAFF. THAT PLANNER HAS ACTUALLY ALREADY BEEN ADDED TO CITY STAFF THIS YEAR BUT THE HEAD COUNT IS EFFECTIVE OCTOBER 1ST SO THIS IS A BACKFILL OF THAT POSITION. AND CODE ENFORCEMENT WE HAVE MOVED THE PART TIME STAFF ASSISTANT TO A FULL TIME STAFF POSITION AND WE HAVE ADDED A PART TIME OFFICER, WEEKEND AND AFTER HOURS DUTIES. FACILITY MAINTENANCE WE ACTUALLY MOVED A PART TIME ADMIN SPECIALIST TO A FULL TIME ADMIN SPHICIALT ANSPECIALIST. COMBINED TWO PART TIME POSITIONS INTO ONE FULL TIME POSITION. SO AGAIN THE NET CHANGE IS THREE AND A HALF PERCENT IN THE GENERAL FUND. OUTSIDE THE GENERAL FUND THERE IS ONE PERSONNEL CHANGE, ONE PERSON FROM THE ACCOUNT BE DEPARTMENT TO UTILITY BILLING TO PROVIDE ADDITIONAL STAFF SUPPORT FOR THE UTILITY BILLING DEPARTMENT. TWO OTHER NOTES, THE UTILITIES DIRECTOR IS RETIRING. HIS SCHEDULED DATE OF RETIRING IS OCTOBER 30TH. HE WILL HAVE 27 YEARS OF SERVICE IN TOTAL, 17 WITH THE CITY. AND ON APRIL 30TH, THE POLICE CHIEF, JAMES HURLEY IS SCHEDULED TO RETIRE AFTER 41 YEARS OF SERVICE, 15 WITH THE CITY. THESE ARE THE MOST SIGNIFICANT CAPITAL PROJECTS INCLUDED IN THE BUDGET. DEBT SERVICE, WE CONTINUE TO PAY DOWN THE DEBT. WE HAVE SEVERAL LARGE PIECES OF EQUIPMENT, MOST NOTABLY IN THE FIRE DEPARTMENT. WE HAVE TWO OSPECIFIC IMPROVEMENTS AT THE PECK CENTER, ONE IS REPOINTING OF THAT ICONIC BUILDING WHICH IS REPLACING THE MORTAR BETWEEN THE BRICKS, AND $50,000 FOR THE WINDOW PROJECT THAT NEVER SEEMS TO END. STREETS INCLUDE NOT ONLY PAVING BUT IT ALSO INCLUDES STRIPING OF ROADS. BUCCANEER FIELD, THIS IS TO REPLACE THE FENCES AROUND BUCK NEE FIELD WHICH IS THE BASEBALL FIELD AROUND CENTRAL PARK. I.T. UPGRADES, $100,000 FOR SIDEWALK MAINTENANCE. REPLACING THE ROOF AT CITY HALL. BUCKET TRUCK FOR THE STREETS DEPARTMENT AND PUT A NEW ROOF ON THE ATLANTIC REC CENTER AND REDECK THE NORTH BEACH BOARDWALK. THESE ARE ALL PROJECTS THAT ARE FUNDED WITH GENERAL FUND OR PROPERTY TAX CONTRIBUTIONS. IN THE CAPITAL EXPANSION PROJECTS, CAPITAL EXPANSION IS FUNDED THROUGH IMPACT FEES NOT [00:20:03] TAX DOLLARS. WE HAD LANDREQUISITION OF RIVER FRONT PROPERTY. WE HAVE THE PRELIMINARY CONSTRUCTION, FOR FIRE STATION NUMBER 2. WE HAVE WATERFRONT PARK IMPROVEMENTS AT $300,000. WE COMPLETE THE SIMMONS ROAD PARK PROJECT WHICH WILL NOT BE COMPLETED IN THE CURRENT YEAR SO THAT MONEY WILL ROLL OVER TO THE NEXT YEAR. WE REVISED THE MARTIN LUTHER KING, JR. BALL FIELD FOR GIRLS SOFTBALL FROM A PRACTICE FACILITY OA FORMAL PLAYING FIELD. MONEY FOR BEACH WALK OVER AT ACCESS NUMBER 6. THE PRELIMINARY CONSTRUCTION OF THE COLUMNARIUM. THIS IS THE BUDGET CALENDAR AT A ALL OF YOU HAVE BEEN PRESENTED WITH. WE WILL OFFICIALLY BEGIN THE BUDGET WORKSHOPS ON AUGUST 5TH, IF NECESSARY MORE CAN BE SCHEDULED. ON SEPTEMBER 8TH WE WILL HAVE FOUR MEETINGS SCHEDULED IN SEPTEMBER ON THE FOUR CONSECUTIVE TUESDAYS. ON SEPTEMBER 22ND, WE'LL HAVE THE SECOND BUDGET PUBLIC HEARING AND VOTE FOR THE BUBLGHTS ADOPTION THEN ON OCTOBER 1ST THE FISCAL YEAR STARTS. SO WITH THAT, AND GREAT THANKS TO THE DEPARTMENT STAFF, ESPECIALLY MS. TESTAGROSE, THAT IS THE PROPOSED BUDGET. THIS WILL BE PREPARED AND PRESENTED ONLINE ON THE CITY'S WEBSITE FIRST THING TOMORROW MORNING. THE BUDGET ITSELF WILL BE ONLINE AS WELL AS THE PRESENTATION AND I WILL FORWARD THE PRESENTATION WITH MEMBERS OF THE MEDIA AS WELL. I LOOK FORWARD TO WORKING WITH YOU THROUGH THE MONTH OF AUGUST TO CONTINUE TO DEVELOP THE BUDGETS FOR THE NEXT FISCAL YEAR. >> ING VICE MAYOR KREGER YOU ARE RECOGNIZED SIR. >> SPECIAL MEETING ON THE 28TH, CORRECT? >> YES, THERE IS A SPECIAL MEETING SCHEDULED FOR JULY 28TH, AND THAT IS TO SET THE TENTATIVE MILLAGE RATE WHICH IS THE CAP. CAN YOU SET A RATE AND YOU CAN GO LOWER BUT YOU CAN'T GO HIGHER. THERE IS MACHINATIONS WE CAN'T GO HIGHER WE TYPICALLY DON'T. >> WE WILL SET THE MILLAGE RATE AND THE BUDGET WILL BE ADJUSTED AS NECESSARY. >> YES. >> IF THERE IS NO OTHER QUESTIONS, I'LL MOVE, FOR POTENTIAL ITEMS TO BE ADDED TO THE AGENDA AS FRONT OF 8-1. >> SO MOVED, SECONDED? >> I'LL SECOND. >> MADAM CLERK. >>THE CLERK: VICE MAYOR KREGER, YES, COMMISSIONER CHAPMAN, COMMISSIONER ROSS, COMMISSIONER LEDNOVICH. MAYOR MILLER. >> I THINK WE SHOULD GO AHEAD WITH DISCUSSION. >> THAT'S FINE. THANK YOU SIR. >> VICE MAYOR, YOUR LIGHT IS ON. YOU GOAT SOMETHING ELSE? >> NO. >> OKAY, GREAT. ON SECTION 5, CITY COMMISSION DISCUSSION ITEMS, 5.1, LAND CONSERVATION. THIS ITEM IS PLACED ON THE AGENDA AT THE REQUEST OF COMMISSIONER LEDNOVICH. >> THANK YOU MR. MAYOR. I AM GOING TO WAIVE MY TIME OON [5.3 BEACHES] 5.1 AND 5.2. >> SEEING NO LIGHTS, 5.3, BEACHES, VICE MAYOR KREGER. >> U.S. AMPLE CORPS OF ENGINEERS SOUGHT THE LAND COASTAL STUDY. IT IS A MAJOR THREE YEAR STUDY. I BRING IT UP AGAIN BECAUSE THIS STUDY IS GOING TO BE THE GOLD STANDARD FOR PLANNING ON THE COAST. IT ACTUALLY RUNS ALL THE WAY FROM DELAWARE DOWN AROUND THE GULF. THIS IS THE STUDY THAT ACTUALLY SETS THE SEA LEVEL RISE STANDARD. WHICH BRINGS ME TO THE NEXT ITEM OF YOU KNOW THERE IS A NEW STATE LAW THAT REQUIRES THAT THERE BE A SEA LEVEL RISE IMPACT PROJECTION FOR ANY STATE-FUNDED PROJECT. AND THE FLORIDA DEPARTMENT OF PROTECTION IS DRAFTING THE RULES NOW, THE QUESTION IS, WILL IT BE JUST THE OCEAN, OR WILL IT BE THE INLETS AND RIVERS. AND I SUGGEST THAT IF FDP DOES THEIR JOB, THEY WILL HAVE TO INCLUDE THE RIVERS AND THE INLETS BECAUSE THAT IS AS MUCH VULNERABILITY FOR THE STATE OF FLORIDA. SO THAT MORPHS INTO PROJECTS WE HAVE ON THE BOOKS. WE HAVE A-5 STORM WATER WHICH IS A WITH 2017 STATE FUNDED PROJECT WHICH I JUST NOTED IN THE MONTHLY REPORTS GETTING CLOSER TO BID. [00:25:02] AND WE ALSO HAVE THE SHORELINE STABILIZATION GRANT WHICH LOOKS TO BE A FEDERAL GRANT BUT IS FUNDED RIGHT NOW BY STATE MONEY WHICH IS SHORELINE STABILIZATION. SO IT IS JUST SOMETHING TO WATCH AS WE MOVE FORWARD AND STAY ON TOP OF. AND THE OTHER THING, THIS IS DALE IF YOU PUT UP THIS ONE SLIDE. WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY THROUGH INDIVIDUALS IN THE VETERANS TREATMENT PROGRAM WHO IS A QUALIFIED DRONE OPERATOR AND VERY, VERY PROFESSIONAL AND COMPETENT, WHO -- YOU GOT THE SLIDE BUT BASICALLY ALL OUR BEACH WALKOVERS ARE GOING TO BE ALREADY SOME OF THEM ARE DOWN, 40 IS DONE, THEY'RE GOING TO FLY THE DRONE AND THIS DRONE-FLYING IS ACTUALLY GOING TO SHOW US THE CONDITION OF THE WALKOVER ALONG WITH ELEVATION AND VEGETATION ISSUES. SO THAT WE CAN EFFECTIVELY PLAN YOU GUYS SAW IT SO YOU KNOW. IT'S JUST A REALLY, REALLY BENEFIT AT NO COST TO THE CITY. AND WE MIGHT BE ABLE -- THIS INDIVIDUAL GRADUATES IN NOVEMBER. THIS IS HIS PROJECT. FANNED WE WORK HIM HARD ENOUGH WE MAY BE ABLE TO GET SOME GOOD THINGS ON GREEN WAY. AND THAT'S IT. >> MR. LAWSON. >> THANK YOU MR. MAYOR, WITH ALL DUE RESPECT TO THE VICE MAYOR, IT CLEARLY ONLY APPLIES TO THE COASTAL BUILDING ZONE AND THAT'S UNDER THE STATUTE AND THE COASTAL BUILDING ZONE CLEARLY ONLY APPLIES TO COASTAL CONSTRUCTION ON THE ATLANTIC OCEAN. I DON'T THINK WE HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT UNDER THE STATUTE ANYTHING HAVING TO DO WITH ANYTHING ON THE RIVER. >> ARE VICE MAYOR KREGER. >> I'M WELL AWARE THAT THE CITY ATTORNEY IS WORKING THROUGH THAT. WHAT I'M TELLING YOU WHEN THEY REDO THE RULES, THEY DON'T INCLUDE THE STATUTE THEY WILL BE REMISS AND THAT'S NOT LIKELY TO HAPPEN WITH ALL THE STUDIES OFF THERE. EVEN AN EXAMPLE HERE, THE MOST VULNERABLE AREA IS RIGHT BACK HERE OFF THE ESCAMBBA SLOUGH, THIS CORPS OF ENGINEERS WILL SHOW THAT. YOU ARE CORRECT, THEY MAY COME OUT AND SAY WE DON'T CARE ABOUT THE MAPPING, I DOUBT THAT WILL HAPPEN. >> HOW ABOUT NEXT YEAR THOUGH? >> I TOTALLY DISAGREE, THIS STATUTE WOULD HAVE TO BE CHANGED TO TAKE CARE OF THE COASTAL PLACES. THEY MAY CHANGE THE STATUTE, AS IT STANDS RIGHT NOW IT ONLY AFFECTS THE ATLANTIC OCEAN COAST. >> 5.4 MARINA, THIS WAS PLACED [5.4 MARINA] ON THE AGENDA AT THE REQUEST OF MR. ROSS. YOU HAVE THE FLOOR. >> THANK YOU. I'D JUST BRIEFLY LIKE TO TALK ABOUT THE FINE GRANTS AND THERE ARE ONE TWO THREE FOUR FIVE OUTSTANDING FINE GRANTS, MOST OF THEM ARE GOING TO BE CLOSED OUT. THE TWO WE NEED TO BE CONCERNED ABOUT LOOKING AT THE BUDGET THAT'S COME UP, ONE IS THE FINE GRANT 1922 WHICH WAS FOR BUILDING BATHROOMS ON THE WATERFRONT AND REPLACING THE BATHROOMS THAT ARE CURRENTLY THERE NOW. BECAUSE THEY ARE IN THE FLOOD ZONE. AND THAT WAS A [5.5 OCEAN HIGHWAY AND PORT AUTHORITY (OHPA)] [00:31:07] >> I'LL CALL ON EXPERT LITIGATION COUNSEL TO ASSIST ME. IT IS JUST MYSELF AND A LEGAL ASSISTANT. WE ARE NOT A LITIGATION MACHINE. IT TAKES A LOT OF PAPERWORK AND A LOT OF THINGS WE DON'T HAVE IN PLACE. SO ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT A THAT? THAT'S THE NEXT STEP. AND THIS IS RELATED TO WE HAVE OTHER ISSUES I KNOW, WITH THE PORT AUTHORITY SUCH AS INTEMPTIOINTERPRETATION OF THEI? WITH RESPECT TO THE FACT WHETHER THEY HAVE TO COME TO THE CITY, THE BUILDING CODE WOULD BUT WE'RE WORKING THROUGH THOSE SEPARATELY SO DON'T EXPECT IN THE LITIGATION THAT STUFF CANNOT GET LUMPED IN BECAUSE WE DIDN'T TAKE CARE OF THAT THROUGH OUR PUBLIC PROCESS OF MEDIATION. >> COMMISSIONER LEDNOVICH. >> THANK YOU MR. MAYOR. ACCORDING TO THE REPORTS I'VE READ AND MAYBE COMMISSIONER ROSS CAN ADD SOME DETAIL, THEY'RE PROPOSING BUILDING THIS INSTEAD OF THAT WAREHOUSE THIS HUMONGOUS TENT. >> IT'S A LITTLE MORE COMPLICATED. >> 70 BY 220. THERE'S SOME DISPUTE AS TO WHETHER THEY NEED APPROVAL FROM THE CITY. OR IT'S GOT TO MEET OUR BUILDING CODE. >> MAY I RESPOND? MAYOR MILLER? >> YES. >> NUMBER 1 THEY WERE GOING TO PUT A WAREHOUSE THERE WHICH IS WHY THEY ARE NOW IN LITIGATION BECAUSE THEY FUNDED 30% OF THE DESIGN-BUILD, THEY FUNDED 30% OF IT BUT THEY FORGOT TO DO THE SOIL BORINGS FIRST AND WHEN THEY FINALLY DID THE SOIL BORINGS THEY FOUND OUT THAT THE SOIL THERE WILL NOT SUPPORT THE HEAVINESS OF THAT BUILDING. THEY CAN'T PUT A FULL BLOWN WAREHOUSE ON THAT PROPERTY. IN SUBSTITUTE TO THAT THEY PROPOSED TO PUT UP IT'S A METAL FRAME WITH A FABRIC COVERING BUILDING AND I THINK IT'S -- YOU HAVE THE DIMENSIONS THERE. >> 70 BY 220. >> 70 BY 220. THEY ORIGINALLY MAINTAINED THAT THEY DIDN'T NEED TO GET ANY BUILDING CODES, BUILDING INSPECTIONS OR BUILDING PERMITS. I THINK NOW THAT THEY MAY NOW HAVE SEEN THE LIGHT AND ARE MEETING WITH STEVE BECKMAN OR BUILDING PERSON ON THIS WEEK ALLEGEDLY. I WAS TOLD BY MR. RAGUCCI SAID IF WE WERE KIND TO HIM AND WEREN'T TO ONEROUS THEY WOULD TD THINK ABOUT COMPLYING. THEY WERE ALSO THINKING ABOUT TEARING DOWN THE BUILDING THAT IS CURRENTLY USED FOR THE CUSTOMS HOUSE, PUTTING A ROAD THROUGH THERE. THEY ARE REMINDED THAT THAT IS AN HISTORIC DISTRICT AND CONSIDERED A HISTORIC CONTRIBUTING STRUCTURE. THEY ALSO ARE CONSIDERING EXPANDING ACROSS THE STREET INTO THE RESIDENTIAL ZONING AREA AND PUTTING COMMERCIAL BUILDINGS THERE. AND THEY'RE ALSO CONSIDERING BUYING PROPERTY WHERE THE TANK FARM USED TO BE ON BROOM STREET, ANOTHER PROPERTY AND COVERING THE ENTIRE THING WITH A WAREHOUSE WHICH WOULD AGAIN NOT MEET WITH OUR IMPERVIOUS SURFACE REGULATIONS. AND THEN FINALLY THEY STILL DON'T HAVE A MASTER PLAN. SO THAT'S WHERE WE STAND WITH THE PORT. >> SO MY INTENTION IS TO WRITE A LETTER TO THE PORT AUTHORITY REMINDING THEM OF THEIR OBLIGATION TO DO A MASTER PLAN AND MRS.-- AND UPDATE THEIR MASTER PLAN BUT CERTAINLY BRING IT HERE SO WE CAN INCORPORATE IT INTO OUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. AND ALSO THAT THERE IS CERTAINLY THE FLORIDA BUILDING CODE DOES APPLY TO THEM. IN THEIR PORT CHARTER WHAT THEY'RE LEANING ON WHICH DID NOT COME UP IN THE MEDIATION, WHY I'M MENTIONING IT NOW, THE PORT CHARTER WAS MOST RECENTLY AMENDED IN 2017 BUT WAS ADOPTED IN 2005. [00:35:03] SECTION 12 SAYS THEY DO NOT HAVE TO SEEK IT SAYS PERMITS, CERTIFICATES OF NECESSITY, BASICALLY APPROVABILITY FROM COUNTY MUNICIPALITIES. SO THEY HAVE ABOUT INTERPRETED THAT VERY BROADLY THAT THEY DON'T HAVE TO ASK PERMISSION FROM THE CITY. ONE OF THE THINGS THEY HAVE DONE IN HISTORY THAT I THINK IS VALUABLE TO THE CITY'S ARGUMENT THAT THEY REALLY SHOULD BE ABIDING BY LOCAL REGULATIONS. THEY CAME TO THE CITY FOUR TIMES FOR A REZONING, ON THE PROPERTY THAT THEY OWNED, THAT IS ZONED RESIDENTIAL. AND THEY WANTED TO PUT A PARKING LOT THERE. THEY DID COME TO THE CITY SO THERE IS A HISTORY THAT AT ONE TIME THEY ACKNOWLEDGED THAT. THIS IS POST-THEIR CHARTER APPROVAL WHICH IS APPROVED BY THE FLORIDA LEGISLATURE. IT IS A SPECIAL LAW THAT PREEMPTS ANY LOCAL LAWS. THAT IS THEIR ARGUMENT. WE DON'T NECESSARILY AGREE BUT WE ARE GOING TO WORK ON BRINGING THEM AROUND ON THAT POINT. THE LAWSUIT WOULD BE SPECIFICALLY RELATED TO THE $50,000 ANNUAL FEE. THERE ARE ANY QUESTIONS? >> VICE MAYOR KREGER. >> WHEN YOU ARE WORKING SEPARATELY, THE CHARTER OR THE STATE STATUTE WHICH DOES ACTUALLY SAY THEY'RE NOT REQUIRED TO GET PERMITS. >> IT DOES, THE CHARTER DOES. >> SO HAVE WE TALKED TO THEM? I BELIEVE THERE HAS BEEN SOME DISCUSSION WITH STATE LEGISLATORS. >> RIGHT. SO TO MAKE ANY CHANGES TO THAT SPECIAL LAW THAT'S SOMETHING THAT YOU DON'T HAVE TO SUBMIT JOINTLY. WE WOULDN'T HAVE TO COME TO AN AGREEMENT WITH THEM. WE CAN TALK TO THE ALLEVIATE DELEGATION. >> LEGISLATIVE DELEGATION. >> YES, WE DID. >> BY THAT LAW WHO WOULD REVIEW IT? THAT'S THE QUESTION. >> THE CITY. INSPECTIONS CAN BE DONE BY PRIVATE PROVIDERS BUT ULTIMATELY THE PERMITTING AUTHORITY IS THE LOCAL GOVERNMENT. IT'S BEEN DELEGATED DOWN IN THE STATE TO COUNTIES AND MUNICIPALITIES. >> COMMISSIONER ROSS. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MA'AM. [5.6 PECK CENTER RECEPTION ROOM NAMING] ITEM 5.6. THE ABOUT PECK CENTER, RENAMING, THIS ITEM WAS PLACED AT THE AGENDA BY THE REQUEST OF VICE MAYOR KREGER. YOU HAVE THE FLOOR. >> CAROLINE DID ALL THE WORK. THIS IS A HOUSEKEEPING TO CORRECT SOMETHING THAT DIDN'T HAPPEN IN 1997 AND 1998, WHICH IS NAMING OF THE RECEPTION ROOM AT THE PECK CENTER, NASSAU COUNTY COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT RECEPTION ROOM. I'M ASKING CONSENSUS TO MOVE FORWARD AND GET THE WILL TO GO. >> THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU. OKAY, BEFORE WE MOVE ON TO PUBLIC COMMENT ON ITEMS NOT ON THE AGENDA, I WANT TO WELCOME SOME CANDIDATES, THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR COMING. ANY OTHER ELECTED OFFICIALS OR CANDIDATES? OKAY. MOVING FORWARD, PUBLIC COMMENT ON ITEMS NOT ON THE AGENDA. [6. PUBLIC COMMENT REGARDING ITEMS NOT ON THE AGENDA OR ITEMS ON THE CONSENT AGENDA] AND WE HAVE A COUPLE OF REQUESTS TO SPEAK. WELCOME. >> IF I MIGHT ASK, VICE MAYOR KREGER HAS PUT COVID-19 ON THE AGENDA. >> YES. >> IF I COULD MOVE MY COMMENTS -- >> THE SPEAKER REQUESTED TO MOVE THAT ON THE ITEM ON THE AGENDA WHICH IS 6.1 ALPHA. IS THAT WHAT YOUR STAFF LIGHT IS FOR? THANK YOU MA'AM. NEXT REQUEST IS TO SPEAK IS ALSO MS. MICHEW. ABOUT THE MARINA -- >> THAT IS SIX PAI. >> ANYBODY ELSE? [7. CONSENT AGENDA] MOVING FORWARD. THIS IS CONSENT AGENDA. ITEM 7. THERE ARE THREE ITEMS ON HERE, 7.Q1, 7.2, 7.3, DOES ANYONE WANT ANYTHING MOVED OFF OR DO I HAVE A MOTION? >> I BELIEVE 7.2 OR THE ONE WITH THE GEORGIA NATIONAL GUARD, THEY'VE CANCELLED THEIR TRAINING SO PLEASE REMOVE THAT FROM THE AGENDA. >> 7.2 IS REMOVED. DOES OANYBODY WANT 7.1 OR 7.3 REMOVED? >> WOULD I RECOMMEND APPROVAL. >> PLEASE CALL THE ROLL. >> MOVING ON, 8.1. >> IT'S -- YOU'RE ADDING THE [Additional Item] EMERGENCY ITEM, 8.1A. >> OKAY, GREAT, WE'LL DO 8.1A, EMERGENCY ITEM ACTION TONIGHT BY VICE MAYOR KREGER. YOU ARE RECOGNIZED. >> THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. SO AS I ALWAYS DO, WITH COVID, I WILL GIVE YOU THE UPDATE FOR THE [00:40:06] STATISTICS FOR THE WEEK SINCE OUR WORKSHOP. SO THE DAY OF OUR WORKSHOP, WE WERE AVERAGING 25 CASES PER DAY. AND THE POSITIVITY RATE WAS 9%. IN THE ALMOST WEEK SINCE THEN, WE ARE NOW AVERAGING 39 CASES A DAY. WITH A HIGH OF 62 THAT WAS RECORDED, IT WAS REPORTED ON SUNDAY SO THAT'S THE REPORT FOR SATURDAY. AND WE'VE HAD THREE DEATHS IN THE PAST TWO WEEKS. AND OUR POSITIVE RATE HAS GONE FROM 9% TO 10.3. AND I JUST RELAY THESE STATISTICS BECAUSE CLEARLY WE'RE NOT FLATTENING THE CURVE. THE CURVE CONTINUES TO RISE. PART OF WHAT I ALSO WANT TO NOTE AND I HAD A DISCUSSION WITH THE REQUEST CITY MANAGER YESTERDAY, WAS I WAS DOWNTOWN SATURDAY MORNING, AND AS WE WRITE ORDINANCES, THERE ARE BLIND SPOTS IN OUR ORDINANCES. AND OUR EMERGENCY MASK ORDINANCE, ONE OF OUR BLIND SPOTS IS THE FARMERS MARKET. AND IT'S OUTSIDE, BUT ANYONE WHO'S BEEN TO THE FARMERS MARKET KNOWS HOW NARROW AN AREA THAT IS. AND HOUSE CONGESTED THAT IS. HOW CONGESTED THAT IS. I WENT BY THE FARMERS MARKET AT ABOUT 9:45 AND IT WAS PACKED. I WOULD SAY MAYBE 10% OF THE PEOPLE, I GOT OUT OF MY CAR AND SURVEYED THE CROWD. I WOULD SAY ABOUT 1 IN 10 HAD A MASK. AND THE WAY THEY HAVE IT SET UP IS YOU GO THERE IS ONE WAY THAT WAY AND ONE WAY THIS WAY COMING THE OTHER WAY. WHICH MAKES THOSE LANES EVEN MORE NARROW. AND THE HABIT OF PEOPLE IS TO BE SOCIABLE. THEY STOP AND TALK TO ONE ANOTHER. BUT THAT WAS VERY, VERY DISTURBING TO SEE THAT MANY PEOPLE CONGREGATED IN THAT LIMITED AN AREA WITHOUT MASKS. SO I'VE ASKED THE CITY MANAGER TO TALK TO THE FARMER MARKET MANAGERS, AND TRY ALLEVIATE THAT SPACE. OTHERWISE WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO FILL THE LOOPHOLE AND SOMEHOW, COME UP WITH A MANDATORY MASK ON VERY CONGESTED OUTDOOR SPACES. SO WE'LL SEE WHAT THE RESPONSE IS. THANK YOU MR. MAYOR. >> YOUR LIGHT IS ON BEFORE WE DO THAT YOU SAY WE HAVE BEEN DOING THE STATISTICS, IS IT ALL OF NASSAU COUNTY? >> YES, SIR. >> VICE MAYOR KREGER. >> I BELIEVE ONE OF THE REASONS WE PUT THIS ON IS WE HAVE TO DO SOME EMERGENCY DECLARATION EXTENSIONS. AND BEFORE WE DO THAT, I WANT TO KIND OF GO BACK TO THE STATISTICS. WE WERE ACTUALLY, IF YOU REMEMBER WEDNESDAY, WE SET AN ARBITRARILY HIGH NUMBER OF ABOUT POSITIVITY OF 25% TO TEST. THAT WAS JUST A NUMBER TO GIVE US TIME TO THINK. AT THAT TIME WE WERE OVER 10%. WE ACTUALLY GOT TO 12% BUT THEN THE STATE CHANGED WHAT THEY'RE DOING. SO THE WAY THE COMPUTERS, NOW WE'RE DOWN TO 8%. I THINK WE NEED TO LOOK AT, IF WE'RE GOING TO SET BENCHMARKS, AT SOME KIND OF REALISTIC BENCHMARK. AND I'M NOT SURE WHAT THAT IS. IF THE GOAL, WE USE THAT 25 BECAUSE THAT WAS MIAMI-DADE. YOU KNOW? SO IF THE GOAL IS TEN, WE'RE 25, WE'LL PROBABLY NEVER GET THERE. AND MANY PEOPLE WOULD PREFER IT TO BE THAT WAY. I DON'T KNOW THAT THAT IS RESPONSIBLE. BUT IT'S SOMETHING TO THINK ABOUT. AND I WANT TO GO NOT ONLY WHEN I WAS DOWN AT THE BEE SATURDAY MORNING ON OFFICIAL TURTLE BUSINESS, I COME TO FIND OUT THAT BIG BUGGIES AT THE BEACHES WERE SATURDAY AND SUNDAY. AND IT WAS LOADS OF PEOPLE UNDER TENTS, WALKING AROUND, NO MASKS, ALL THE STUFF THAT YOU KNOW, WE'RE SENDING ONE MESSAGE HERE AND I'M GOING TO SAY SOMETHING NOW THAT'S REALLY I'M GOING TO SAY IT. WEDNESDAY WHEN WE SAT IN THAT GOLF CART THE LAND WERE THOSE GUYS SITTING OUT THERE WITHOUT MASKS AT THAT TABLE DISCUSSING, WAS A TOTAL EMBARRASSMENT TO ME. THEY WERE NOT EATING. THEY WERE SITTING OUT THERE DISCUSSING. AND WE ALL SAW THEM, NOTHING HAPPENED. [00:45:02] WE CAN'T BE SENDING THOSE KIND OF MESSAGES. ALL THAT NEEDED TO HAPPEN WAS PUT A MASK ON. THAT'S NOT MY RESPONSIBILITY AS A CITY COMMISSIONER. THAT'S STAFF'S RESPONSIBILITY AND THAT SHOULD HAVE HAPPENED. AND THE SAME WITH AMERICA DAY, WE NEED TO START PAYING ATTENTION TO WHAT WE'RE DOING. AT SOME POINT PICK A NUMBER. MANY PEOPLE WOULD RATHER WE DON'T FOOL WITH THE NUMBER AND LET THE STATE SCREW AROUND UNTIL WE'RE GETTING IN REAL TROUBLE. SO I'D LIKE TO THINK ABOUT THAT NUMBER, IT'S GOING TO BE ON EVERY MEETING, RIGHT, COVID-19? AND I'LL COME UP WITH A MINIMUM OF A BENCHMARK NUMBER BY NEXT MEETING. THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER CHAPMAN YOU'RE RECOGNIZED SIR. >> MY MEMORY SERVES ME RIGHT LAST WEEK ONE OF THE THINGS WE STRESSED IS WE NEED AN ENFORCEMENT MECHANISM THROUGH YOU MR. MAYOR. MR. MARTIN, CAN YOU EXPLAIN WHAT ENFORCEMENT MEASURES WERE IN PLACE AFTER WE MADE THE MANDATE THAT MASKS BE MADE INDOORS, PLEASE? >> UNDER THE EXECUTIVE ORDERS THAT IS THE RESPONSIBILITY OF THE POLICE DEPARTMENT. CHIEF HURLEY WAS AT THE MEETING AND HEARD THAT. I'M AWARE THAT THE POLICE DEPARTMENT IS MAKING -- PAYING CLOSER ATTENTION. BUT I'M NOT AWARE OF WHAT ANY STATISTICS ARE WITH CITATIONS THAT HAVE BEEN ISSUED. BUT I CAN GET THAT INFORMATION FOR YOU. >> INI'M A LITTLE DISAPPOINTED BECAUSE ENFORCEMENT IS ONE OF THE KEYS HERE. YOU KNOW, I BET YOU ANY ONE OF US CAN WALK IN THE STORES DOWNTOWN AND FIND PEOPLE NOT WEARING MASKS. WELL IF WE'RE NOT GOING TO MAKE A CONSCIOUS EFFORT TO ENFORCE IT, WE'RE WASTING OUR TIME. WE MIGHT AS WELL TAKE ALL THE SIGNS WE HAD PRINT ID AND THE TIME WE SPEND TRYING TO PUT THIS EMERGENCY ORDINANCE TOGETHER AND JUST FORGET IT. 38 YEARS IN SCHOOL TEACHING SCHOOL TAUGHT ME SOME THINGS. THAT YOU KNOW SOMETIMES YOU HAVE TO PICK A SCAPEGOAT AND IT GETS THE REST OF THE PEOPLE TO SAY GEE, I GUESS I BETTER CONFORM. AND I'VE TAKEN TWO OR THREE TRIPS DOWNTOWN OVER THE WEEK. MAJORITY OF PEOPLE NOT WEARING MASKS. I WANT SOMEBODY TO TELL ME ON THE CENTER STREET SIDEWALK HOW DO YOU SOCIAL-DISTANCE? I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU DO IT. AS A RETIRED SCIENCE TEACHER IF WE'RE SIX FEET APART OUR SIDEWALKS AREN'T SIX FEED WIDE. THEY'RE WALKING IN GROUPS AND THEY'RE PASSING GROUPS. I GO BY THE SUBSHOP, THEY'RE ALL SITTING AROUND EATING. I JUST REALLY AM INFLUENCES TRAITED THAT WE ARE NOT MAKING A MORE CONSCIOUS EFFORT TO ENFORCE THIS. -- FRUSTRATED THAT WE ARE NOT MAKING MORE CONSCIOUS EFFORT TO ENFORCE THIS. WOW, I CAN'T WAIT TO GET OUT THERE TO WRITE TRAFFIC CITATIONS. I CAN IMAGINE ANY WOULD SAY, I CAN'T WAIT TO WRITE FACEMASK VIOLATIONS. YOU KNOW WHAT? IT NEEDS TO BE DONE. IF WE LOOK AROUND THE STATE AND THE NATION, WE'RE BEING FAILED. AND AS I'VE SAID BEFORE AND I'LL SAY IT AGAIN. WE EITHER LEAD, FOLLOW OR WE GET OUT OF THE WAY. AND I DON'T WANT US TO GET OUT OF THE WAY. I DON'T WANT US TO FOLLOW. I PREFER THAT WE LEAD. AND LEADING IS TAKING SOME HARD STEPS ON WEARING MASKS. WE'VE HEARD IN THE NEWS. SEVERAL COMMUNITIES ARE ON THE BRINK OF A SHUTDOWN. WHAT'S THAT GOING TO DO TO OUR ECONOMY ON THE ISLAND? PEOPLE UNFORTUNATELY DON'T GET IT. AND WHEN THE SHUTDOWN COMES THERE WILL BE ALL KINDS OF UPROAR. BUT FOLKS YOU DIDN'T GET IT, YOU JUST, IF WE'RE NOT MAKING MAJOR EFFORTS TO ENFORCE THIS, I DON'T KNOW. I THROW MY HANDS UP. I THROW IN THE TOWEL. THANK YOU. >> COMMISSIONER ROSS. >> ONE THICK I WANT TO BRING UP IS THAT A LOT OF THINGS THAT SEEM TRUE TODAY, WE MIGHT FIND OUT TOMORROW ARE NOT TRUE. SO THIS IS A FLUID SITUATION AS NEW INFORMATION COMES, OTHER THINGS MAY NEED TO BE DONE. [00:50:01] NUMBER TWO, WHEN WE GO BACK OVER THIS EMERGENCY WHERE ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE NEED TO THINK ABOUT IS THAT SCHOOLS ARE GOING TO OPEN IN AUGUST AS IT STANDS NOW AND HOW THAT IS GOING TO AFFECT THE SCHOOL SYSTEM. AND THE THIRD THE THING THAT CONCERNS ME THE MOST, IS THAT WE'RE STILL UNDER PHASE 2 OF THE GOVERNOR'S PLAN THAT SAYS THAT NO MORE THAN 50 PEOPLE SHOULD BE MEETING. THAT BUGGY, THE DUNE THING MORE PEOPLE WERE MEETING THAN 50 PEOPLE. I'D LIKE TO POINT OUT THAT THE EVENTS COMMITTEE HAS SANCTIONED FISHING RODEO, JULY 30TH TO AUGUST 2ND, NASSAU MUSIC EVENTS, EIGHT FLAGS CAR SHOW, OCTOBER 17TH, AND THE FERNANDINA BEACH HIGH SCHOOL HOMECOMING PARADE ON SEPTEMBER 18TH. I SUSPECT ALL THOSE WILL HAVE MORE THAN 50 PEOPLE. SO I'M WONDERING IF WE SHOULD BE SAYING THAT THERE SHOULD BE NO MORE SPECIAL EVENTS FOR THE NEXT SIX MONTHS. I'D JUST LIKE TO BRING THAT UP AND GET WHAT YOUR THOUGHTS WERE. >> COMMISSIONER LEDNOVICH. >> THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. A COUPLE OF ADDITIONAL THOUGHTS. I HAD TWO PEOPLE CALL ME WHO WERE OUT IN LOCAL BUSINESSES. THERE WAS NO SIGN IN THE BUSINESS ABOUT THE MASKS. I SEE WE HAVE OUR SIGNS NOW. AND I'M HOPING THAT THIS IS VOLUNTARY THAT THEY PUT THIS UP RIGHT? >> YES, SIR. >> ALL RIGHT SO WE'LL SEE HOW MANY PUT IT UP. SO THEY WERE GOING INTO THESE BUSINESSES. THERE WERE NO MASK SIGNS. AND A COUPLE OF THE BUSINESS OWNERS REPORTED TO THEM THEY DIDN'T EVEN KNOW ABOUT THE MANDATORY MASK ORDINANCE. SO THAT WAS A LITTLE SURPRISING TO FIND THAT OUT. AND MY SECOND QUESTION IS AFTER WORKSHOP MS. FILKOFF REPORTED TO US THAT HAD WAS ONE BUSINESS THAT WAS REFUSING TO FOLLOW THE MANDATORY MASK ORDINANCE. WHAT HAS HAPPENED IN THE SEVEN DAYS SINCE THAT WORKSHOP, IF WE TALKED TO THAT BUSINESS, AND HAVE WE COME TO TERMS WITH THEM FOLLOWING THE ORDINANCE? >> I DON'T KNOW WHO THE BUSINESS IS. -- >> I'M ASKING THE QUESTION, IT WAS REPORTED TO US. WE PROMISED TO HOLD THEIR FEET TO THE FIRE, IT'S BEEN SEVEN DAYS, HAS ANYONE MELT WITH THEM AND HELD THEIR FEET TO THE FIRE? >> WHAT'S BEEN REPORTED TO ME IS CODE ENFORCEMENT HAS VISITED AND INFORMED THEM THAT THEY HAVE TO COMPLY WITH THE MASK REQUIREMENT. I'M NOT SURE IF THERE IS A FOLLOW UP VISIT TO FOLLOW THROUGH ON THAT BUT I WILL CHECK ON THAT. >> IF YOU WOULD PLEASE DO THAT, I'D APPRECIATE THAT. THANK YOU. AND AS FAR AS COMMISSIONER ROSS'S SUGGESTION ON THE EVENTS, WHAT WE'RE SEEING NATIONALLY AND WHAT WE'RE SEEING IN COMMUNITIES IS EVENTS BEING CANCELLED. OUR CURVE IS NOT FLATTENING AS I JUST READ THE STATISTICS AND I THINK IT'S FOOLISH TO HAVE THESE LARGE GROUPS MEETING AND GATHERING. SO I WOULD AGREE WITH COMMISSIONER ROSS THAT SUSPENDING EVENTS IN THE FORESEEABLE FUTURE IS A WISE THING TO DO. >> VICE MAYOR KREGER. YOU'RE RECOGNIZED. >> THIS IS ON THE EVENT, IF THERE ARE MORE THAN 50 PEOPLE THEY ARE OUTSIDE CRITERIA PHASE 2, WE SHOULD NOTIFY THEM AND CANCEL THOSE EVENTS. THOSE ARE THE KIND OF EVENTS I BELIEVE THAT WE PUT -- THAT PEOPLE ARE PUT AT MORE RISK. YOU JUST WATCH THOSE EVENTS AND LOOK AT HOW THOSE PEOPLE THERE ARE. A LOT OF THOSE ARE OUTSIDE PEOPLE COMING IN. BUT IT'S PHASE 250 PEOPLE THEY SHOULD BE CANCELLED, NOTIFIED THAT THEY WON'T OCCUR UNTIL WE MOVE TO HIGHER UP WHICH IS NOT GOING TO HAPPEN FOR A WHILE. SO THOSE CLOSE-IN ONES I THINK THEY SHOULD BE CANCELLED AND NOTIFIED THAT THEY'RE NOT IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE REOPENING. >> COMMISSIONER. >> THEY ARE DPOLINGS ORDERS. >> I AGREE. >> COMMISSIONER. >> WHAT YOU KIND OF ACTION WILL THAT TAKE ON OUR PART TO CANCEL THEM? >> WELL MY QUESTION IS GOING TO BE, WHEN WE FINISHED THE QUESTION, I WAS SURPRISED BY THAT EVENT COMING TOO. WHEN I SAW PEOPLE POSTING ON [00:55:03] FACEBOOK SAYING THEY WERE GOING, I WAS SURPRISED TO SEE THAT IT WASN'T CANCELLED. I LOOKED AT THE CITY CALENDAR AND IT WAS SCHEDULED FROM 9 A.M. TO 4 P.M. ON THE CITY'S CALENDAR. IT WAS ANNOUNCED ON THE CITY'S CALENDAR. >> IT WAS SATURDAY AND SUNDAY TOO. >> 9 A.M. TO 4 P.M. YET THEY WERE ADVERTISING ON THEIR EVENT PAGE ON SOCIAL MEDIA THAT THERE WOULD BE CAMPING AVAILABLE. I THINK THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO BE SOME CAMPING OVER AT TEN ACRES, ANOTHER CAMP. >> THEY WERE ARE CAMPING ON THE BEACH. >> THAT SURPRISED ME, I DIDN'T KNOW THEY WERE GOING TO BE STAYING OVERNIGHT. LONG STORY SHORT, I'M ASSUMING THE SPECIAL EVENT COMMITTEE APPROVED THAT BEFORE THE PHASE 2, MAYBE IT'S OLD AND PEOPLE JUST KIND OF MISSED THAT IT WAS STILL OUT THERE. I DON'T THINK IT WOULD BE APPROVED DURING PHASE 2 AND THAT'S HOW THAT HAPPENED. IT WAS JUST SOMETHING THAT WAS ALREADY APPROVED. >> RIGHT, SPECIAL PEEFNTS COMMITTEE POLICY IS YOU HAVE TO HAVE 60 DAYS NOTICE. THIS WAS APPROVED BEFORE THEN. I WILL SEND AND E-MAIL TO THE CHAIRPERSON OF THE SPECIAL EVENTS COMMITTEE ADVISING THEM TO INFORM THE ORGANIZERS THAT ALL THE EVENTS THAT COMMISSIONER ROSS JUST INDICATED ARE CANCELLED DUE TO THE CREDIT NONCOMPLIANCE TO THE GOVERNOR'S EXECUTIVE ORDER. >> THANK YOU. I'D LIKE TO CALL UP ON COMMISSIONER CHAPMAN'S ENFORCEMENT AND WHAT STEPS THAT WE NEED TO TAKE. AND I'M NOT ADVOCATING WE HAVE A HALF DOZEN POLICE OFFICERS DOWNTOWN AND THEY START WRITING TICKETS INDISCRIMINATELY. WHAT I'M SUGGESTING IS THAT WE HAVE A PRESENCE, A LAW ENFORCEMENT PRESENCE, THAT THEY RESPECTFULLY WALK UP TO PEOPLE AND SAY WOULD YOU -- WE'RE TRYING TO FLATTEN THE CURVE IN OUR CITY. WOULD YOU MIND SOCIAL DISTANCING? SO PEOPLE ARE AWARE. WOULD YOU ALSO PLEASE PUT ON YOUR MASK? AND AT LEAST WE'RE DOING -- AT LEAST THAT DOES SOMETHING AND THEN IF THAT DOESN'T WORK THEN WE CAN TAKE -- THEN WE CAN RATCHET IT UP TO THE NEXT STEP. >> I THINK THAT IS GOING TO BE A DISCRETION FOR US TO TASK POLICE LAW ENFORCEMENT, I THINK THAT'S OUT OF OUR PURVIEW BUT -- >> LET ME -- AGAIN YOU HAVE IF EMERGENCY ORDER BEFORE YOU TONIGHT THAT REMIND YOU, THAT THE EMERGENCY ORDER RESTRICTS MASKS INDOORS. THERE IS NO SUCH RESTRICTON OUTDOORS. >> RIGHT. >> IT IS INDOORS. >> MR. CHAPMAN YOU'RE RECOGNIZES SIR. >> I JUST THINK THAT OUR POLICE OFFICERS ARE WELL ENOUGH TRAINED THAT THEY KNOW HOW TO TACTFULLY APPROACH PEOPLE. I'VE SEEN THEM IN ACTION WITH SOME -- IN SOME SITUATIONS AND I HAVE TOTAL FAITH THAT THEY AS YOU SAID COMMISSIONER LEDNOVICH, APPROACH AND ARE VERY CALM AND ONE OF THE THINGS I LEARNED WORKING IN A LIQUOR STORE WITH ALCOHOL TRAINING IS YOU START OUT BY SAYING I'M VERY CONCERNED ABOUT YOUR SAFETY. WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU STAY HEALTHY. YOU PUT IT IN THAT POSITIVE NOTE, RATHER THAN HEY WHY AREN'T YOU WEARING A MASK, AND IT'S -- I USED IT MANY TIMES WITH PEOPLE HAD CONSUMED TOO MUCH AND SAID YOU KNOW I'M VERY CONCERNED ABOUT YOU DRIVING HOME. WELL, I'M SURE OUR OFFICERS WOULD EASILY SAY, I'M VERY CONCERNED ABOUT YOUR WELL-BEING. I HAVE TOTAL FAITH IN THEIR BEING ABLE TO DO IT. THANK YOU. >> I DO REQUEST TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM. I WANTED THE COMMISSIONERS TO FINISH THEIR THOUGHTS. I ASKED THE CITY ATTORNEY ABOUT THIS LAST WEEK BECAUSE I GOT FEEDBACK ABOUT A QUESTION ON SCHOOLS. IF THE SCHOOLS DECIDE DO GO BACK INTO SESSION AND THE SCHOOLS INSIDE THE CITY LIMITS DO THEY FALL WITHIN OUR EMERGENCY ORDER? AS IT IS RIGHT NOW MASKS REQUIRED IN ALL BUILDINGS INSIDE. WOULD THIS CALL THE SCHOOLS? >> PROBABLY NOT. THE DEPARTMENT OF EDUCATION OPERATES THE SCHOOL SYSTEM IN FLORIDA, THAT'S THE STATE DEPARTMENT. WE'RE NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO CLOSE THE SCHOOLS HERE FROM OPENING. I THINK WE HAVE TO SEE HOW THE TEACHERS UNION HAS FILED A LAWSUIT -- >> I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT THE MASK REQUIREMENT. THAT WE REQUIRE THE MASKS BE IN EFFECT INSIDE THE BUILDINGS. >> YES. YES I WOULD LOPE SO. YES. >> I GOT A LOT OF QUESTIONS FROM PARENTS SAYING THAT IF THE SCHOOL BOARD SAYS THEY DON'T HAVE TO WEAR A MASK IN THE CLASSROOM THAT OUR CITY ORDINANCE -- >> NUMBER 1 THAT'S NOT GOING TO HAPPEN. THEY ARE GOING TO REQUIRE MASKS. BUT SHOULD THEY NOT THEN YES WE WOULD -- >> THANK YOU, THAT ANSWERS OUR QUESTION. [01:00:03] HOW ARE WE SENDING THESE SIGNS, HOW DO MERCHANTS AND OTHER PEOPLE GET THEM? DO THEY HAVE TO REQUEST THEM? >> FIRST I'D LIKE TO CAN THANK REGINA DUNCAN, THE CITY CONTRIBUTED $11,000 TO HALF THERE COST OF THE SIGNS. THE 600 SIGNS WERE DELIVERED TO THE CITY TODAY, WE WILL HAVE STAFF GO OUT, WE'LL POST ON THE CITY'S WEBSITE AND SOCIAL MEDIA, THAT WE'RE WORKING STAFF OUT TO VISIT MOST OF THE SITES ESPECIALLY IN DOWNTOWN TO GET THE SIGNS OUT. >> OKAY, THANK YOU. WE DO HAVE A REQUEST TO SPEAKS ON THIS, MS. JANICE MICHHEHU. >> THANK YOU, 2925 NORTH FIRST, FERNANDINA BEACH. >>> FIRST, THE PUBLIC HEALTH ADVISORS SAYING AN INDIVIDUAL SHOULD REFRAIN FROM PARTICIPATING IN SOCIAL OR RECREATION ACTIVITIES OF MORE THAN TEN PEOPLE, ALTHOUGH THE GOVERNOR HASN'T CHANGED THE RULINGS. THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT NOW SAYING YOU SHOULDN'T BE AROUND MORE THAN TEN PEOPLE, JUST FOR YOUR INFORMATION. SINCE LAST WEEK'S WORKSHOP WE'VE SEEN A RISE CONSIDERABLY IN OUR NUMBERS, ESPECIALLY WITH SUNDAY'S NUMBERS OF 60-PLUS. AND THEN YOU CAN ASSUME THAT DUE TO 4TH OF JULY WEEKEND COMING UP AND THEN SCHOOL OPENING, WELL I'M SORRY, YOU COULD ASSUME THAT MOST OF THAT WOULD BE DUE PROBABLY TO 4TH OF JULY. BUT IN THE COMING WEEKS WE HAVE SCHOOL OPENING UP AND THEN WE'VE GOT LABOR DAY WEEB WEEKEND, BOTF WHICH ARE OPPORTUNITIES FOR POTENTIAL EXPOSURE. WE SHOULD BE THINKING ABOUT WHAT WE SHOULD BE DOING BASED ON THOSE EVENTS. BASED ON COMMISSIONER ROSS'S COMMENTS, CONTACT TRACING AND BEING SOCIALLY RESPONSIBLE IN TERMS OF WEARING MASKS AND SOCIAL DISTANCING AND I AGREE THAT BOTH OF THOSE ARE NEEDED AREAS OF SUPPORT. SO LET'S TALK ABOUT ENFORCEMENT OOF MASKS FOR A SECOND, I THINK THERE ARE A LOT OF THINGS WE COULD DO THERE. ONE OF THE THINGS WE DON'T WANT TO DO ASK JUST CLOSE DOWN IS JUN BUSINESSES ACROSS THE BOARD. THERE ARE SOME THAT ARE WORKING VERY, VERY HARD TO MEET REQUIREMENTS TO BE SAFE AND MAKE THEIR EMPLOYEES AND CUSTOMERS SAFE. BUT WE COULD LOOK AT MAKING MASKS MANDATORY OUTSIDE. WE COULD LOOK AT MAKING MAFNTIOS MANDATORY EVERYWHERE IN THE CITY. THAT IS SOMETHING YOU CAN DO. MORE COMMUNICATIONS AND SIGNAGE, I WOULD SAY YOU DON'T ASK A BUSINESS THEY WOULD LIKE A SIGN, YOU GIVE THEM A SIGN AND TELL THEM TO PUT IT UP IN THEIR WINDOW OR YOU PUT IT UP IN THEIR WINDOW FOR THEM. AND WE CAN CREATE MORE PUBLIC AWARENESS CAMPAIGNS. LET'S ACKNOWLEDGE THAT WEARING A MASK IS NOT FUN. IT'S A BIG PAIN. AROUND IT'S MISERABLE AND IT'S HOT AND IT'S SWEATY. BUT WE NEED TO DO IT FOR THE RIGHT REASONS. SO THERE'S PLENTY OF OPPORTUNITY TO PUT SOME COMMUNICATION PLANS IN PLACE AROUND THAT. AND WE CAN CONTINUE TO PROVIDE PPE TO RETAIL AND RESTAURANTS TO BE USED BY THE PUBLIC IN THE CITY. THOSE ARE ALL THINGS THAT WE COULD DO JUST GENERALLY AROUND THE OPTION OF MASKS. IN TERMS OF RESTAURANTS OR AREAS OF HIGH VOLUME, THERE ARE PROBABLY FIVE OR SIX RESTAURANTS IN TOWN THAT ARE WHAT I WOULD CONSIDER HIGH VOLUME RESTAURANTS. THERE ARE OTHERS THAT ARE NOT AND YOU ARE NOT SEEING THEM POST ON FACEBOOK THAT THEY'RE HAVING TO CLOSE BECAUSE THEY HAVE EMPLOYEES THAT ARE CONTAGIOUS OR HAVE TESTED POSITIVE. SO WE COULD PUT, AND WE COULD EVEN REQUIRE THE BUSINESS TO DO THIS. REPLY THRMY THREE MINUTES ARE U? CAN I -- >> JUST FINISH YOUR COMMENT. >> SO WE COULD ACTUALLY PUT POLICE OFFICERS AT THE DOORS OF THESE HIGH VOLUME RESTAURANTS DURING HIGH TRAFFIC TIMES TO ENFORCE NOT JUST THE MASK WEARING BUT ALSO SOCIAL DISTANCING, AND ENSURING THAT THEY ACTUALLY ARE MEETING THE 50% INSIDE THE BUILDING. AND YOU COULD ACTUALLY PAY, FORCE THE BUSINESS TO TELL THEM THEY HAVE TO PAY FOR IT OR THAT THEY HAVE TO PROVIDE PRIVATE SECURITY TO DO IT IF THEY DON'T WANT -- IF THEY DON'T WANT POLICE OFFICERS THERE. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH MA'AM. >> THANK YOU. >> VICE MAYOR KREGER YOU ARE RECOGNIZED SIR. >> I JUST WANT TO COMMENT ON THE SCHOOL OPENINGS, I BELIEVE THE SCHOOLS HAVE CANCELLED A LOT OF THEIR EVENTS, I THINK BAND MIGHT HAVE BEEN CANCELLED AND SOME OTHER THINGS. BUT I THINK WE NEED TO MAKE SURE WE COORDINATE THE SPORTS TEAMS ARE PRACTICING AND, YOU KNOW, SPORTS EVENTS, YOU KNOW THAT THE [01:05:04] SCHOOLS DID HAVE GRADUATIONS AFTER. SO I THINK WE NEED TO COORDINATE WITH THEM WHAT THEY'RE DOING AND REMIND THEM OF WHAT -- YOU KNOW, THE DENSITY ISSUES ARE WITH PEOPLE. >> THANK YOU, DR. ROSS YOU'RE RECOGNIZED. >> I SPOKE WITH DR. BURNS THE SUPERINTENDENT OF SCHOOLS THIS AFTERNOON. I WAS PART OF THE COMMITTEE FOR THE SCHOOL BOARD OF SCHOOL OPENING. LET'S JUST PUT IT THIS WAY. IT'S A FLUID SITUATION AND THEIR FINAL RECOMMENDATION WILL COME OUT ON THURSDAY BEFORE THE SCHOOL BOARD, THAT MEETING I BELIEVE IS AT 6:00. SO THEY'RE AWARE UNDER THE CURRENT HE GOVERNOR'S MANDATE CURRENT GOVERNOR'S MANDATE THEY WILL MEET IN AUGUST. >> YOU SAY THURSDAY THEY WILL MAKE AN ANNOUNCEMENT? >> IT'S GOING BEFORE THE SCHOOL BOARD ON THURSDAY. I ASSUME THEY WILL MAKE A DECISION ON THURSDAY. >> OKAY, THAT'S GOOD TO KNOW BECAUSE I'VE GOTTEN THAT QUESTION QUITE A BIT. THURSDAY ON THE SCHOOL BOARD MEETING YOU WILL GET A DEFINITIVE RESULT OF THE MEETING. >> THURSDAY THEY'RE MEETING. WHETHER THEY'LL COME UP, I ASSUME THEY WILL COME UP WITH A PLAN. >> YOU WERE ON A COMMITTEE AND YOU TALKED AND YOU SAID SOMETHING WILL BE ANNOUNCED ON THURSDAY. >> NO, BUT I MISSPOKE. THEY ALREADY HAD -- I WENT TO THE LAST SCHOOL BOARD MEETING. THEY ALREADY HAD A PRELIMINARY, SHOWED A PRELIMINARY PLAN AND THEY ARE SCHEDULED TO ADOPT A FINAL PLAN, MY UNDERSTANDING IS THEY ARE SCHEDULED TO DOCUMENT A FINAL PLAN ON THURSDAY. >> GOOD, THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER CHAPMAN YOU'RE RECOGNIZED SIR IS. >> I HAD FORGOTTEN SO I APPRECIATE YOU JOGGING MY MEMORY. AFTER THE WORKSHOP ON WEDNESDAY AND I APOLOGIZE, I DON'T KNOW WHO SAID IT. BUT THEY SAID THOSE ELECTRONIC SIGNS WE HAVE, WHY NOT PUT THEM AT THE TWO TRANCES TO THE CITY, MASKS ARE REQUIRED. AS PEOPLE COME IN, THERE IT IS FOLKS. AND AS FAR AS THE SCHOOLS, 38 YEARS, TAUGHT ME SOMETHING. I'VE HEARD A LOT OF TALK ABOUT OPENINGS AND THINGS. BUT NOBODY'S DEALING WITH SOME NITTY-GRITTY THINGS. LIKE IF I'M A BUS DRIVER AND I HAVE A STUDENT WHO REFUSES TO WEAR A MASK, WHAT DO I DO? DO I KEEP THE BUS STATIONARY? DO I BRING HIM TO SCHOOL? SAME WAY IN A CLASSROOM. AS A CLASSROOM TEACHER IF I HAVE A STUDENT WHO REFUSES TO WEAR A MASK, WHAT DO I DO? YOU KNOW, DELAY YEARS, MOST OF IT IN MIDDLE SCHOOL, ONE OF THE COMMON STATEMENTS IS, BOYS WILL BE BOYS. WELL, WHAT IF THEY GET HORSING AROUND PULLING EACH OTHER'S MASKS OFF, WHAT IS THE PROCEDURE FOR DISCIPLINING THEM? WHAT HAPPENS IF A STUDENT IN A CLASSROOM TESTS POSITIVE? WHAT IS THE PLAN FOR THAT CLASSROOM? IF IT'S A MIDDLE SCHOOL OR HIGH SCHOOL, WHERE THEY'VE MOVED FROM CLASS TO CLASS, WHAT'S THE PLAN? SO THESE ARE THINGS THAT MOTIONLMOSTLY WHATI'M HEARING IW TO TEACH. BUT THE NITTY-GRITTY, THANK GOD I'M OUT OF TEACHING. >> COMMISSIONER ROSS. >> THEY'RE AWARE OF ALL THESE CONTINGENCY AND I THINK THEY'RE TRYING TO DO WHAT IS A VERY DIFFICULT JOB AND I THINK THEY'RE TRYING THEIR BEST AND THEY'RE LOOKING AT ALL THOSE NUMBERS AND THEY'RE AWARE OF ALL THOSE CONSIDERATIONS. >> THEY'RE MEETING AT THE SCHOOL BOARD IS IS THE SAME AS OURS, THEY HAVE SEPARATE CHAIRS, LIKE WE HAVE HERE, OPEN TO THE PUBLIC OR THEY ARE DOING VIRTUAL? >> THERE IS BOTH. THERE ARE CHAIRS -- >> OKAY. AND DALE, WHAT IS OUR EMERGENCY ORDER, WHAT IS THE DROP-DEAD ON IT, HOW LONG DO WE HAVE TO DO BEFORE WE HAVE TO DO IT AGAIN, THE TIME FRAME? >> THE ORIGINAL CREDIT WHY EMERGENCY ORDER WAS ADOPTED JULY SECTS. WAYS 30 DAYS. IF YOU ARE LOOKING AT REVISING IT, AS SEVERAL OF YOU HAVE DISCUSSED WITH ME, I ENCOURAGE YOU TO DO IT FOR ANOTHER TIME. >> WE DON'T HAVE TO DO IT TONIGHT. WILL IT EXPIRE BEFORE WE MEET AGAIN? >> WE'D LIKE YOU TO DO IT TONIGHT. WE THINK IT'S BEST. LET ME JUST -- I WON'T TAKE TOO MUCH TIME. WHAT I'VE DISCOVERED IN THIS PROCESS IS THAT MOST CITIES AND COUNTIES HAVE EMERGENCY POWERS IN THEIR CHARTER OR IN THEIR CODE THAT SAYS THE MAYOR, THE CITY MANAGER, THE CITY COMMISSION ARE THE ONES THAT ADOPT THESE ORDERS, AND HAVE THE POWERS TO PASS CURFEWS, LIMIT ALCOHOL SALES, CLOSE BUSINESSES [01:10:04] WHATEVER. SO I FOUND WE DON'T HAVE THAT. SO THAT DOESN'T MEAN WE CAN'T DO ANYTHING. IT MEANS THE COMMISSION HAS TO ACT AS A BODY. WHEN WE WERE LAST WEDNESDAY AT OUR WORKSHOP AND I'VE ADDRESSED THIS WITH THE CITY MANAGER, WE NEED TO HAVE SPECIAL MEETINGS IF WE THINK WE MIETZ TAKE ACTION. I'VE BEEN NOW CHALLENGED BY A COUPLE OF CITIZENS AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT THEIR MOTIVE IS BUT THEY WANT TO KNOW WITH WHETHER THE POLICE CAN -- BECAUSE UNDER CHAPTER 252 OF THE STATUTES THAT'S WHERE WE GET THIS AUTHORITY TO DECLARE A LOCAL STATE OF EMERGENCY AND WHERE THE POLICE OFFICERS HAVE AUTHORITY TO CRIMINAL MISDEMEANOR, THEY COULD ARREST SOMEBODY THAT DOESN'T ABIDE BY OUR ORDERS. BUT N IN ORDER TO DO THAT WE HAE TO GO THROUGH THE PROCESS. SO TONIGHT THE CITY MANAGER AND I AND THE TOWN NEED YOU TO DO TWO THINGS, ONE IS TO EXTEND THE LOCAL STATE OF EMERGENCY BEYOND AUGUST 2ND FOR SEVEN DAYS AND THEN WHAT I'M GOING TO ASK YOU TO DO IS TO GIVE THE CITY MANAGER THE AUTHORITY TO EXTEND THAT LOCAL STATE OF EMERGENCY FOR UP TO 30 DAYS. I HOPE I'M NOT BEING TOO CONFUSING AND THEN THE SECOND PART IS GOING TO BE ADDRESSED, WHAT -- FOR YOU ALL TO ADDRESS WHAT YOU WANT THE MASK ORDER TO SAY. DO YOU WANT TO EXCLUDE SOME SPECIFIC TYPES EVER BUSINESSES OR MAKE EXCEPTIONS? WE NEED YOU TO DECREASE THAT TONIGHT AS WE DISCUSSED AT THE WORKSHOP. YOU'RE TAKING FORMAL ACTION TONIGHT. I DON'T THINK THERE'S BEEN ANY CITATIONS ISSUED OR ARRESTS MADE ON THE MASK ORDER. AS OF TONIGHT, I TOLD THE CHIEF OF POLICE TOO, YOU HAVE ALL THAT AUTHORITY UNDER STATE LAW BUT WE NEED YOU TO MAKE THE MOTIONS AND PASS THAT. SO WITH REGARD TO -- I DON'T KNOW DO YOU HAVE ANY OTHER SPEAKERS? >> NOM. NO, MA'AM. >> SO THE LOCAL STATE OF EMERGENCY NEEDS TO BE EXTENDED FROM AUGUST 2ND TO AUGUST 9TH. AND THE SECOND IS TO AUTHORIZE THE CITY MANAGER TO EXTEND THAT FOR UP TO ANOTHER 30 DAYS. IN SEVEN-DAY INCREMENTS. THE STATUTE ONLY ALLOWS TO US TO DECLARE A STATE OF EMERGENCY FOR SEVEN DAYS. I HAVE A FEELING THAT MAY CHANGE IN THE NEXT LEGISLATIVE SESSION BECAUSE HURRICANES ONLY STAY AROUND FOR A FEW DAYS RIGHT? THAT LAW MAY CHANGE. RIGHT NOW IT IS SEVEN DAY INCREMENTS. >> AND THE OTHER YOU SAID WAS THE MARVEG -- >> THE OTHER WAS TO ADDRESS THE MASK ORDER ITSELF. AND WE TALKED ABOUT LAST WEDNESDAY DELETING THE, IF YOU CAN SOCIALLY DISTANCE, IN OTHER WORDS, WE MANDATED MASKS INDOORS, UNLESS YOU COULD SOCIALLY DISTANCE. PART OF THAT WAS NOT JUST THAT PEOPLE AREN'T SOCIAL DISTANCING, BUT THAT NOT EVERYBODY UNDERSTANDS, ACTUALLY FEW PEOPLE UNDERSTAND REALLY WHAT SOCIAL DISTANCE IS. THEY THINK PETE AND I HERE THIS IS SOCIAL DISTANCING. BUT THIS CAN BE SOCIAL DISTANCING TOO, RIGHT DR. ROSS? >> WHAT? >> I'M JUST WALKING BY, I'M NOT HANGING OUT FOR 15 MINUTES. >> YOU GOT TO KEEP MOVING. >> RIGHT. >> AND YOU MENTIONED THAT DISTANCE IS CHANGING. IT WENT FROM 12 FEET TO SIX FEET TO TEN FEET. IT FLUCTUATES. >> WE USE SOCIAL DISTANCING, BUT BECAUSE OF THE CONFUSION, MASKS INDOORS RIGHT? AND WE NEED TO AMEND -- >> AND BUSINESSES AREN'T WHERE YOU CAN'T SUCCESSFUL DO YOUR BUSINESS WHILE LIKE EATING. >> RIGHT, YOU CAN'T EAT WITH A MASK ON. >> OKAY. COMMISSIONER ROSS YOU'RE RECOGNIZED SIR. INTERSO I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE EXTEND THE EMERGENCY ORDER FROM AUGUST 2ND TO AUGUST 9TH AND ALSO AUTHORIZE THE CITY MANAGER TO EXTEND THE EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT FOR SEVEN 30 DAYS IN SEVEN DAY INCREMENTS. AND PASS THE RESOLUTION 2020-94 TO STRIKE IN SECTION 1 AFTER IT SAYS EVERY PERSON AGE 6 OR OVER, WHO IS IN A PUBLIC INDOOR SPACE, MUST WEAR A FACEMASKS, STRIKE OR COVERING WHEN NOT ABLE TO ENGAGE IN SOCIAL DISTANCING. PATRONS AT A BARBER SHOP OR HAIR SALON AND OR GYMS. >> SO MOVED. >> SECOND. >> I HAVE A MOTION, IS THE THAT A SECOND? >> YES. >> COMMISSIONER LEDNOVICH YOU ARE RECOGNIZED SIR. >> I WROTE ASK COMMISSIONER ROSS IF HE WOULD AMEND IN PLACE OF GYMS, EXERCISE FACILITIES BECAUSE YOGA STUDIOS ARE -- >> THAT'S FINE. >> THE MOTION IS CHANGED FROM GYMS TO EXERCISE LOCATIONS. >> WE RECOMMEND THAT YOU USE THE TERM FITNESS CENTERS, IT ACTUALLY HAS A TEF DEFINITION TT INCLUDES THAT. >> THAT'S FINE. >> MOTION AND SECOND, SEEING NO [01:15:02] FURTHER LIGHTS, MADAM CLERK IF YOU WOULD CALL THE VOTE PLEASE MA'AM. >>THE CLERK: COMMISSIONER ROSS, VICE MAYOR KREGER. YES, COMMISSIONER LEDNOVICH, [8.1 2021 MAIL BALLOT ELECTION AUTHORIZATION] YES, COMMISSIONER CHAPMAN, MAYOR MILLER. >>> WE'RE OFF OF THAT, THE 2021 MAIL BALLOT ELECTION. >> IT'S VERY SIMPLE. THIS RESOLUTION AUTHORIZES THE CITY CLERK'S TO CONDUCT A MAIL BALLOT IN 5021. REGARDING CHARTER AMEALTS A REFERENDUM OF CANDIDATES WOULD BE ON THAT MAIL IN BALLOT BUT SOMETIME IN 2021 WE WOULD COME BACK TO YOU WITH ANOTHER RESOLUTION TO ACTUALLY SAY THE ELECTION DATE AND/OR DATES AND WHAT SOME OF THE PROCEDURES ARE. SO THIS IS JUST TO FORMALIZE AND AUTHORIZE MAIL BALLOT ELECTION FOR CHARTER AMENDMENTS IN 2021. >> CITY CLERK? OKAY GRATE. >> I RECOMMEND APPROVAL. >> I'LL SECOND IT. >> MOTION AND SECOND, MR. LEDNOVICH YOU'RE RECOGNIZED SIR. >> THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. I NEED TO TACTFULLY SAY THIS. LOWER DOWN IN OUR AGENDA WE HAVE THE CONSERVATION CHARTER AMENDMENT CONSERVATION REFERENDUM. WHICH I BELIEVE IS THE MOST SIGNIFICANT PRODUCTS THAT THE CHARTER COMMITTEE PRODUCED FROM THEIR WORK. SO THAT LEAVES THE QUESTION, AND TAMMY MAYBE YOU CAN REVIEW FOR US THE CHARTER CHANGES, SHOULD WE SPEND $27,000 ON CHARTER CHANGES THAT, FOR LACK OF A BETTER WORD, ARE MINOR? THEY'RE NOT AS SIGNIFICANT AS THIS CONSERVATION. PIECE. AND SO THAT'S THE QUESTION THAT I WOULD POSE TO MY FELLOW COMMISSIONERS GIVEN THE FACT THAT WE KNOW THAT OUR NEXT YEAR WOULD BE A DIFFICULT FINANCIAL YEAR AND SPECIAL ELECTIONS DO COST MONEY. SO I WOULD POSE THAT QUESTION. >> MR. ROSS I SEE YOUR LIGHT. YOU'RE RECOGNIZED. >> NUMBER ONE THE CONSERVATION PART IS GOING TO BE ON THE NOVEMBER BALLOT. >> CORRECT. >> WE UNDERSTAND THAT. >> YES, CORRECT. >> NUMBER TWO, I WOULD FIRST OF ALL, THE COMMITTEE HASN'T FINISHED ITS REPORT. SO I WOULD SUPPORT THIS AT THIS TIME AND IF IT TURNS OUT WE FEEL DIFFERENTLY FURTHER ON, IT CERTAINLY DOESN'T HAVE TO BE FOLLOWED THROUGH. >> ANYONE ELSE? >> MR. MAYOR, I BELIEVE THAT YOU ADDRESSED A QUESTION TO ME, MAYBE THE CITY ATTORNEY CAN CLARIFY. I AGREE AND I THINK THE CHARTER REVIEW COMMITTEE WOULD DISAGREE, THAT THE CONSERVATION REFERENDUM REQUIREMENT CHANGE IS THE BIGGEST CHANGE. BUT I CAN'T SAY THAT THEY'RE INSIGNIFICANT. I THINK THAT SOME OF THE CHARTER REVIEW COMMITTEE WOULD PROBABLY DISAGREE WITH YOU. BUT THEY WOULD AGREE THIS IS THE MOST IMPORTANT. >> THE ONE WE'RE VOTING ON RIGHT NOW. BECAUSE WE ARE STILL TALKING ABOUT -- OKAY, YOU'RE WRITING THIS. >> YES, I WOULD SAY TOO THAT SOME OF THEM APPEAR TO ME TO BE MAYBE INSIGNIFICANT BUT I WOULDN'T MAKE THAT STATEMENT. SOME OF THEM COULD BE IMPORTANT. THE QUESTION WOULD BE IF WE MOVE FORWARD TONIGHT AND LATER ON THERE IS ANOTHER DECISION, CAN WE PULL IT BACK? >> THE ANSWER IS YES. BECAUSE WE STILL HAVE TO, BY STATE LAW, HAVE YOU ALL AUTHORIZE ANOTHER RESOLUTION THAT SETS THE ELECTION DATE. SO IF WE GOT TO THAT POINT YOU WOULD MOVE NOT TO HAVE THE ELECTION AT ALL. >> GOT YOU. >> MOVE TO APPROVE. >> SECOND. >> WE ALREADY DID THAT. >> SORRY. >> MOVED IT AGAIN. INTERYOU CAUGHT UP ON WHO IS THE MOTION AND SECOND, RIGHT? VICE MAYOR YOUR LIGHT IS ON SIR, VERY GOOD. MADAM CLERK COULD YOU CALL THE ROLL. >>THE CLERK: VICE MAYOR KREGER, YES. [8.2 AWARD OF RFP # 2020-02 – OASIS MARINAS] MANY COMMISSIONER ROSS, COMMERCE LEDNOVICH, COMMISSIONER CHAPMAN, MAYOR MILLER. >> NEXT ONE. >> 2020-02, FOR MANAGING OR CAN AWARDING, PLANE FACILITIES. OASIS PLANES AND SAFE HARBOR PLANES. ADDITIONALLY, THE CURRENT COMPANY WESTREC WAS OFFERED THE [01:20:02] ABILITY TO REVIEW THE PROPOSALS AND OFFER ONE. YOU WERE PROVIDED WITH ALL OF THE PROPOSALS AND THE WESTREC RESPONSE. THE CITY HAD REACHED OUT TO STANTEC AND ASKED THEM TO PROVIDE A FINANCIAL REVIEW OF THE MANAGEMENT PROPOSALS. BY EVALUATING AND RANKING THE PROPOSALS TO ASSIST WHICH PROPOSALS BEST SUITED THE FINANCIAL INTERESTS OF THE CITY. THE STANTEC REPORT RANKED OASIS MARINA'S PROPOSAL IN THE BEST INTEREST. OASIS'S PROPOSAL WAS PRESENTED, AT THE JUNE 22ND MEETING. PRELIMINARY DISCUSSIONS WERE CONDUCTED WITH OASIS MARINA OFFICIALS AND AN INVITATION TO INTRODUCE THEMSELVES TO THE MARINE ADVISORY BOARD WAS EXTENDED. WESTREC OFFICIALS DECLINED TO PARTICIPATE AT THE JUNE 22ND MEETING. REITERATED THEIR SUPPORT FOR A PREVIOUS ENDORSEMENT TO ALLOW WESTREC TO OPERATE FOR AN ENTIRE YEAR WITH A FULLY FUNCTIONING FACILITY. ALL OF THE PROPOSALS WERE PROJECTIONS EVER REVENUE AND EXPENSES. NONE OF THE MANAGEMENT TEAMS OFFERED GUARANTEES OF THE REVENUES OR PROJECTS. THE STANTEC REVIEW WAS INTENDED TO TBROID AN OOH COMPARISON AS PRESENTED BY EACH MANAGEMENT TEAM. FOLLOWING THAT REVIEW AS INDICATED, STANTEC RANKED OASIS MARINAS IN THE BEST FINANCIAL INTERESTS. ADDITIONAL DISCUSSIONS HAVE BEEN CONDUCTED WITH REFERENCE IS AND OTHERS FAMILIAR WITH MARINA OPERATIONS. YOU HAVE RECEIVED CORRESPONDENCE FROM SEVERAL OF THOSE RESIDENTS. YOU HAVE MRS. RECEIVED SOME CORRESPONDENCE FROM MS. MINCHU AND THAT CORRESPONDENCE HAS BEEN INTRODUCED TO YOU. I BELIEVE MR. BRIAN ARNOLD FROM OASIS MARINA IS HERE TO ANSWER ANY OF YOUR QUESTIONS. I'D LIKE TO INTRODUCE BLIEN ARNOLD. >> YOU SAID YOU WANTED TO LEAVE THE GUYS IN PLACE UNTIL THE END OF THE YEAR? >> THEY HAD MADE AN EARLIER RECOMMENDATION NOT AT THAT MEETING BUT THEY REITERATED THAT THEIR DESIRE IS THAT NOW THAT THE MARINA IS UP AND RUNNING, THEY WANT WESTR-EC A FULL YEAR TO OPERATE FROM THE TIME THE FUEL BECOMES AVAILABLE. BECAUSE IN THE PAST WESTREC PROVIDED SOME GOOD NEWS TO THE CITY AND THAT'S WHAT THE MARINA ADVISORY BOARD, THEY REITERATED A PREVIOUS MOTION THEY HAD MADE BUT THEY DID NOT MAKE A MOTION AT THAT MEETING BUT THEY DID REAFFIRM THEIR SUPPORT TO HAVE CAN WESTREC TO OPERATE FOR A FULL YEAR AFTER THE MARINA HAD BECOME FULLY OPERATIONAL. >> MY NAME IS BRIAN ARNOLD. I BROUGHT A FEW MEMBERS OF MY TEAM. JIM BRONSTEIN WHO IS FAMILIAR WITH THE PROJECT AND THE FOLKS THAT HAVE BEEN REBUILDING IT OUT HERE. SO I APPRECIATE THE CHANCE TO COME BACK. SO I WAS HERE FOR QUESTIONS AND ANSWERS. THIS TIME. >> COMMISSIONER LEDNOVICH. >> THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. MR. ARNOLD, A CONSTITUENT WROTE ME AN E-MAIL WITH SOME QUESTIONS. WHAT WITH MARINA PROJECTS HAS OASIS BEEN INVOLVED WITH WHERE THERE WERE UNABLE TO FINANCIALLY IMPROVE TO CURRENT FISCAL SITUATION? >> DAN COWANS, CEO AND FOUNDER. ANY PROJECTS WE HAVE HAD CURRENTLY 30 UNDER MANAGEMENT, ANY PROJECTS HISTORICALLY THAT WE HAD WHERE WE DID HAVE AN ISSUE DRIVING DID REVENUE OR WHERE OWNERSHIP DID NOT ALSO DO WHAT THEY TOLD US THAT THEY WERE GOING TO DO. SO IF YOU LOOK AT THE PROJECTS THAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE, EACH PROJECT, WE'VE INCREASED REVENUE YEAR 1, MINIMUM OF 30%, AND ANY PROJECT THAT DIDN'T COMPLY WITH THAT, OR PROJECTS AGAIN WHERE OWNERSHIP MAY HAVE SAID WE'RE GOING TO PUT IN A NEW MARINA, REDO THE BATHHOUSES, WHATEVER THAT MAY HAVE BEEN DIDN'T MATERIALIZE. >> OKAY SO OF THE TOTAL NUMBER OF PROJECTS HOW MANY TIMES DID THAT HAPPEN? >> THREE TIMES. >> I'M SORRY? >> THREE. >> THREE TIMES, THANK YOU. WHAT LESSON DID YOU LEARN FROM THESE? [01:25:01] >> BE VERY CLEAR WITH THE OWNERSHIP YOU GET IN BED WITH. >> THANK YOU SIR. >> VICE MAYOR KREGER. >> MY CONCERN IS THAT I CAN ASK YOU QUESTIONS BUT I CAN'T ASK THE OTHER PROPOSERS QUESTIONS. THIS ISN'T A QUESTION, I'M JUST MAKING A STATEMENT NOW. MY CONCERN ABOUT THIS IS THAT THERE WAS SUPPOSED TO BE AN EVALUATION COMMITTEE THAT EVALUATED TECHNICAL CAPABILITIES, PREVIOUS EXPERIENCE AND FINANCIAL COMPONENTS. IT DOESN'T APPEAR THERE WAS A COMMITTEE THAT DID THAT. THAT'S -- AND WITH STANTEC BASICALLY, CAN'T VERIFY ANY OF THE NUMBERS. SO, YOU KNOW, TO ME IT SEEMS THAT AGAIN, AND I'LL OF BRIEF, ABE BRIEF,WE DO AN RFP AND IT GE RADAR CONSTANTLY. THERE SHOULD BE AN EVALUATION COMMITTEE. ALL THESE PEOPLE SHOULD HAVE BEEN INVITED, WE COULD HAVE QUESTIONED THEM ALSO. THIS DOESN'T SAY, YOU KNOW, I READ YOUR PROPOSALS, IT LOOKS LIKE YOU DO SOME GREAT WORK. BUT I WOULD HAVE LIKED BE TO HAVE SEEN WHAT THAT RFP SAID WE WERE SUPPOSED TO DO. SO I WON'T SUPPORT, YOU KNOW, THIS PROPOSAL RECOMMENDING THEM ON THE BASIS AGAIN, LAST MEETING, WE AWARD A BID TO THE THIRD HIGHEST BIDDER. HERE WE DO AN RFP IT SAYS WE WERE SUPPOSED TO THESE COMEATSD, IT WAS NO COMMITTEE, IT WAS ALL BASED ON FINANCIAL. FINANCIAL WAS A BIG DEAL, IT WAS 40 POINTS. SO THEY MAY WELL BE THE GREATEST OUT THERE. BUT WHEN YOU ONLY HAVE ONE PERSON COMING YOU HAVE FIVE PROPOSALS, THAT IS -- THAT JUST DOESN'T MAKE SENSE TO ME. IT'S LIKE I SAY WE SEEM TO GO OFF THE RAIL ONE WAY OR ANOTHER ON PURCHASING AND I'VE SAID THAT CONSISTENTLY YOU KNOW. SO I'M DONE. >> COMMISSIONER ROSS. >> YES, THANK YOU, FEW THOUGHTS. NUMBER 1 AS FAR AS GOING OFF THE RAILS I'D LIKE TO GO BACK TO WHEN THAT WE ASKED FOR THE -- HAD A COMMITTEE TO EVALUATE THE NEW AUDITOR. AND I WAS ON THAT COMMITTEE. I SPENT A GREAT DEAL OF TIME ON THAT. AND WE DID OUR DLINGS AND DUE DD CAME UP WITH A REPORT, AND WE DECIDED NOT TO FOLLOW THAT AND THE CITY COMMISSION BY A VOTE OF 4 TO 1 DECIDED TO NOT FOLLOW THE COMMITTEE'S REPORT AND YOU WERE ONE OF THOSE COMMISSIONERS. MORE IMPORTANTLY I'D WANT TO POINT OUT THIS IS A REQUEST TO NEGOTIATE A NEW MANAGEMENT CONTRACT. AND IT IS PART, TO PUT THE CURRENT MANAGEMENT ON NOTICE, TERMINATIONS OF THEIR SERVICES. AND SO I WANT TO REMIND YOU HOW WE GOT HERE. OVER THE LAST TWO YEARS CERTAIN REQUIREMENTS FOR MAINTENANCE WERE NOT MET BY THE CURRENT MANAGEMENT. AND THE COMMISSION E-COMMISSION DIRECTED THE CITY MANAGER TO PUT OUT REQUESTS FOR PROPOSALS. AND IT'S JUST A REQUEST FOR PROPOSAL, IT IS NOT A CONTRACT. AND THE CITY, WE GAVE THEM THE FLEXIBILITY TO NEGOTIATE AND ALL IT SIMPLY DOES IS TO GIVE THEM THE FLEXIBILITY TO NEGOTIATE A NEW CONTRACT TO MO TO MANAGE. THAT DOESN'T MEAN WE HAVE TO GO IN WITH THAT CONTRACT AND IT CAN ALSO REQUIRE A TERMINATION OF SERVICES CLAUSE SO WE'RE NOT HAPPY WITH THEIR SERVICES WE CAN PART WAYS. SO THE CITY MANAGER HAS TALKED ABOUT HOW WE GOT THE REQUEST FOR PROPOSALS AND EXPLAINED THE PROCESS OF EVALUATING PROPOSALS. I DIDN'T -- AS PART OF THIS I CONTACTED SIX DIFFERENT OF THEIR RESOURCES AND SPENT SEVERAL HOURS TALKING WITH PEOPLE. AND MY CONCERNS WERE THE FOLLOWING. NUMBER ONE WAS MARKETING. BOTH LOCAL AND TRANSIENT. ONE OF THE BIGGEST THINGS THAT IS GOING TO MAKE OUR MARINA SUCCESSFUL IS BRINGING IN TRANSIENT VOTERS. AND I LOOKED AT THE MARKETING CAMPAIGN THAT THEY'VE DONE ON A NUMBER OF THEIR THINGS AND I LOOKED AT THE MARKETING CAMPAIGN WE'VE DONE AND I FIND THEIRS TO BE FAR SUPERIOR. THE LEVEL OF CUSTOMER SERVICE, TO ME, IT REALLY DOESN'T -- IT IS IMPORTANT TO KNOW WHAT THE PROJECTIONS ARE. BUT IF YOU PROVIDE A GREAT SERVICE IN THE BOATING COMMUNITY, PEOPLE WILL COME TO YOUR MARINA. I KNOW A LOT OF BOATERS. I'VE OWNED BOATS. I'VE BEEN TO LOTS OF MARINAS BUT THAT IS TRUE. ONE OF THE PEOPLE THAT I TALKED TO THEY WERE CONNECT WEDNESDAY I BELIEVE YOUR FIRST CONTRACT WAS WITH A HOTEL, THE FOUR SEASONS UP IN BALTIMORE. AND WHAT THE OWNER THERE TOLD ME IS THEY -- THE FOUR SEASONS IS A GOOD HOTEL AND IT WAS SEAMLESS, YOU WOULDN'T KNOW THAT IT WASN'T THE SAME MANAGEMENT BOTH IN THE HOTEL AND IN THE -- ON THE MARINA. AND THAT IS COMING FROM THE OWNER OF THE HOTEL. I FIND THAT -- AND I'VE BEEN TO A LOT OF THE MARINAS THAT WAS [01:30:06] THERE IN MARYLAND, I'VE BEEN TO A NUMBER OF THOSE MARINAS IN PAST AND THEY GIVE A GOOD, EVERYBODY HAS REPORTED GREAT SERVICE, LEVEL OF SERVICE. MY BIGGEST CONCERN IS MAINTAINING INFRASTRUCTURE. AND I ASKED THAT TO ALL PEOPLE THAT I TALKED TO. THEY DO AN EXCELLENT JOB OF NOT ONLY MAINTAINING THE INFRASTRUCTURE BUT IMPROVING IT. TO ME THAT WAS A KEY THING, I'VE BROUGHT UP PREVIOUSLY, SPENT $14.5 MILLION FOR A MARINA WE NEED TO MAINTAIN THAT AND THAT HAS NOT BEEN DONE IN THE PAST. AGAIN, HOW THEY GET PAID, THEY GET PAID $45,000 MANAGEMENT FEE. AND THEN 1.5% OF REVENUE. AND REVENUE IS DEFINED AS SLIP FEES AND MOORING FIELD FEES. THEY GOT SKIN IN THE GAME. TO ME THAT WAS VERY IMPORTANT. I'VE TALKED ABOUT MANAGERS AND I TALKED ABOUT REFERENCES I CALLED, SOME OF THEM ARE VERY PLEASED, SOME OF THEM KEPT THE SAME MANAGER BUT THEY ALL WERE TRAINED IN THEIR WAY OF DOING THINGS AND IT WAS IMPRESSIVE WHAT THEY WERE TALKING ABOUT. THE LAST THING IS THE PLAIGHT BUDGET. TO ME THAT IS IMPORTANT BUT PROBABLY THE LEAST IMPORTANT. WHO CAN PREDICT WHAT COVID IS GOING TO DO, WHO WOULD HAVE KNOWN THAT TWO THINGS YOU COULDN'T BUY IN THE MARKET IS BOATS AND BICYCLES. THE BOATING MARKET HAS EXPLODED, A LOT OOF PLEANS ARE CHOCK FULL. WE DON'T KNOW, IF YOU KNOLL THESE THINGS, GREAT CUSTOMER SERVICE I BELIEVE THEY WILL FILL A MARINA. THEY ALSO TALKED ABOUT PRICING, VARIABLE PRICING AND SO ON, AND I THINK THAT THAT WAS GOOD. SO ONE OF THE PEOPLE THAT I CALLED WAS THE PEOPLE FROM OHIO. AND THEY SAID ONE OF THE THINGS THEY DID THAT SOLD THEM WAS THIS WAS BEFORE COVID, THEY JUST SHOWED UP AT THE MARINAS IN BALTIMORE. THEY DID A SURPRISE VISIT, THEY DIDN'T TELL THEM THEY WERE COMING, THEY SAID OKAY, HERE WE ARE, THEY FOUND EVERYTHING THEY SAID TO BE TRUE, TRUE. I'VE ALSO TALKED TO A NUMBER OF PATRONS OF THEIR PLEANS, THEY MY ALL HAD VERY POSITIVE THINGS TO SAY. I ALSO REVIEWED MULTIPLE WEBSITES, AND I THINK IT SPEAKS FOR ITSELF. SO I'M VERY COMFORTABLE WITH THE MANAGER'S RECOMMENDATION. THE CITY MANAGER HAS MADE SOME GREAT HIRES. I MEAN, WITH THE COMPTROLLER AND THE AIRPORT MANAGER, AND I'M BLANKING. BUT -- >> STORM WATER. >> STORM WATER. GOOD DECISIONS, I TRUST HIS JUDGMENT. I NOT ONLY LIKE RONALD REAGAN, TRUST AND VERIFY. I CALLED ALL THESE PEOPLE. I THINK I DID MY DUE DILIGENCE AND I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE CONTRACT. >> I'LL SECOND. >> MOTION AND SECOND. VICE MAYOR KREGER, YOU'RE RECOGNIZED. >> YES, YOU SEEM A LITTLE UPSET BECAUSE WE DIDN'T PICK YOUR CHOICE OF THE AUDITOR. BUT YOU HAD YOUR SELECTION COMMITTEE, DIDN'T YOU, AS YOU SAID, SUBMITTAL SHALL BE REVIEWED AND EVALUATED BY AN EVALUATION COMMITTEE, MEMBERS TO BE APPOINTED BY THE CITY MANAGER AS FOLLOWS. AND THEN IT TELLS CAPACITIES. THAT WAS NOT DONE. I'M WELL AWARE OF WHAT RFP SOME RFP IS AWARDED ON BEST NEEDS OF THE CITY. WHAT I'M SAYING IS WE SUBJECTIVELY DECIDE WHAT WE WANT TO DO. THIS IS WHAT THE RFP SAID. WE DID NOT DO THAT. THEY COULD BE THE GREATEST GUYS IN THE WORLD. WE DIDN'T DO WHAT THE RFP SAID. WE DIDN'T DO JUSTICE TO THOSE OTHER PEOPLE. SO THAT'S MY CONCERN. NOT WHAT THEIR QUALIFICATIONS, I READ THEM ALL TOO. I HOPE YOU DID THE SAME RESEARCH FOR ALL THE OTHER PEOPLE. >> I DID. >> OKAY. SO -- BUT YOU ARE NOT THE COMMITTEE. THE COMMITTEE DIDN'T EXIST. THAT'S MY POINT. >> THANK YOU SIR. >> COMMISSIONER ROSS. >> I'M SORRY, I'M DONE. >> ANYONE ELSE? OKAY, MOTION AND SECOND FOR APPROVAL AND MADAM CLERK CALL THE VOTE PLEASE. >> COMMISSIONER ROSS, COMMISSIONER LEDNOVICH -- >> I'M SORRY. SORRY ABOUT THAT. >> THANK YOU, I'M DENISE MINCHU, 2428 LOS ROBLES. ON JUNE 28TH I SENT EVERYONE A LETTER, MY EXPERIENCE HOW RFPS SHOULD BE PROCESSED. I LISTENED TO THE MARINA [01:35:02] ADVISORY BOARD PRESENTATION. THESE FOLKS PUT ON A GREAT PRESENTATION AND I'M SURE THAT THEY RUN A GREAT MARINA. BUT THAT IS NOT THE POINT THAT I'M TRYING TO MAKE. THIS COMMISSION HAS NOT DONE THE APPROPRIATE DUE DILIGENCE THAT YOU NEED TO DO BEFORE YOU AWARD A MULTIMILLION DOLLAR CONTRACT. YOUR STANTEC SAID THEY ARE NOT ABLE TO VALIDATE THE UNDERLYING ASSUMPTION SUPPORTING EACH FIRM'S PROPOSED REVENUE AND COMPENSATES BUDGETS AND THOSE IMPLICATIONS FOR THE CITY. STANTEC ALSO SAID, THE FINANCIAL IMPLICATIONS TO THE CITY WOULD DIFFER FROM THE PROJECTIONS SHOWN. YOU JUST HAVE NOT DONE THE THE DUE DILIGENCE NEEDED TO MAKE A MULTIMILLION DOLLAR AWARD AND THAT IS MY CONCERN AND IT CONTINUES TO BE MY CONCERN WITH HOW DECISIONS ARE MADE IN THE CITY. IT IS VERY DISAPPOINTING TO ME THAT Y'ALL WOULD MAKE THIS DECISION TONIGHT WITHOUT HAVING DONE THE AMOUNT OF WORK THAT YOU NEED TO DO, AND THAT THE CITY NEEDS TO DO, AND THAT THE CITY MANAGER NEEDS TO DO. I SENT THIS LETTER OUT AND I HAD A LONG CONVERSATION WITH COMMISSIONER ROSS AND I HAVE HAD SEVERAL LONG CONVERSATIONS WITH COMMISSIONER KREGER AROUND THE OTHER THREE OF YOU I HAVEN'T HEARD A WORD. I DON'T KNOW WHETHER THAT MEANS YOU DIDN'T CARE, YOU DIDN'T LIKE MY LETTER, YOU DIDN'T GET MY LETTER. AND SO THAT'S A DISAPPOINTMENT AS WELL. WHEN A CITIZEN SENDS YOU SOME INFORMATION AND SPENDS THE AMOUNT OF TIME THAT I SPENT ON THIS IT SEEMS TO ME THAT THE MINIMUM AMOUNT OF RESPECT FOR THAT CITIZEN OUGHT TO BE AT LEAST A THANK YOU FOR SENDING ME THE LETTER. IF YOU DON'T WANT TO TALK ABOUT IT, FINE. BUT YOU NEED TO AT LEAST BE ACKNOWLEDGING THIS. SO AGAIN I'M ASKING YOU TO POSTPONE THIS VOTE UNTIL SUCH TIME AS THE CITY DOES THE APPROPRIATE DUE DILIGENCE THAT'S LAID OUT IN YOUR RULES AND YOUR ORDINANCES AND THAT YOU THEN HAVE MORE CONFIDENCE THAT YOU'RE ACTUALLY MAKING THE APPROPRIATE DECISION. THANK YOU. >> I CALL THE VOTE BEFORE THE SPEAKER ACTUALLY SPOKE. I'M GOING TO CALM IT BEEN, IN CASE SOMETHING THE SPEAKER SPOKE CHANGES THE MIND OF THE COMMISSIONERS. >>THE CLERK: COMMISSIONER ROSS, YES, COMMISSIONER LEDNOVICH, >> OKAY FOLKS WE'RE BACK IN [8.3 SOLE SOURCE VENDOR APPROVAL - UNIVERSITY OF FLORIDA] SESSION. WE ARE ON TO ITEM 8.3, THIS IS A SOLE SOURCE VENDOR APPROVAL FOR THE UNIVERSITY OF DPLA. CITY MANAGER. >> IT'S GRANT A. THERE IS A NO BRAINER. RECOMMEND APPROVAL. GRANT FOR OLD TOWN. SO ONE OF OUR SPECIAL PLACES. >> RECOMMEND APPROVAL. >> SECOND. >> I HAVE A MOTION AND SECOND. AND MADAM CLERK IF YOU COULD CALL THE VOTE PLEASE. >>THE CLERK: VICE MAYOR KREGER. YES, COMMISSIONER LEDNOVICH, YES, COMMISSIONER CHAPMAN, YES, [9.1 CHARTER AMENDMENT - CONSERVATION REFERENDUM] COMMISSIONER ROSS, YES. MAYOR MILLER, YES. >> ITEM 9 MUCH 1. >> ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF FERNANDINA BEACH FLORIDA AMENDING ORDINANCE 2019-15, AMENDMENTS TO THE CHARTER WHICH AMEND SECTION 10A TO PROHIBIT SALE OF CONSERVATION LAND AND TO FURTHER RESTRICT SALE OR LEASE OF RECREATION FACILITIES, PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY AND PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE. THIS IS FIRST READING. I SUBMIT TO YOU THAT IN SUBSECTION C, WHERE WE DEFINE DREARGS FACILITIES -- >> D TAMMY. >> I'M TRYING TO DO THE TOUCH SCREEN AND DALE REMINDED ME THAT TOUCH SCREEN DOESN'T WORK. SUBD RECREATION FACILITIES, I'D LIKE TO SUBMIT TO YOU THAT WE REMOVE THE TERM GENERALLY. IT READS NOW RECREATION FACILITIES AND CONSERVATION LANDS IN QUOTES ARE BEING DEFINED IN THE CITY'S COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND GENERALLY MEAN LANDS OR PLACES WITH A RECREATION OR CONSERVATION DESIGNATION, CONSERVATION LANDS MAY ALSO INCLUDE LANDS OWNED OR LEASED BY THE CITY AND PROTECTED BY CONSERVATION EASEMENTS. THE REASON I'M PROTECTING THE TERM GENERALLY BE REMOVED IS THAT WE HAVE A PLACE LEASED PROPERTY THAT IS CITY OWNED LAND, GOLF COURSE, RIVER GOLF COURSE DISOAFNED INDUSTRIAL AND YOU DON'T NECESSARILY, SOMEBODY [01:40:03] COULD ARGUE THAT THAT'S INCLUDED HERE EVEN THOUGH IT'S NOT ON THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP OR THE ZONING MAP AS RECREATION. SO IF YOU REMOVE GENERALLY IT CONFINES IT TO THOSE THAT ARE RECREATION PLUMED IF YOU WILL. WE REX APPROVAL, CHARTER REVIEW COMMITTEE RECOMMENDS APPROVAL AND CAME UP WITH THIS LANGUAGE. WHEN WE TALK ABOUT FURTHER RESTRICTION OF RECREATION FACILITIES SALE OR LEASE IT MEANS THAT UNANIMOUS OR 100% VOTE FROM THE CITIES COMMISSION TO PUT ON THE BALLOT A SALE OR LONG TERM LEASE OF RECREATION FACILITIES, AND THEN 70% OF THE ELECTORS THAT REFERENDUM ELECTION HAVE TO APPROVE THAT CHANGE OR THAT SALE OR LEASE. >> COMMISSIONER ROSS YOU ARE RECOGNIZED. >> I MOVE TO APPROVAL WITH THE CORRECTION THAT IN SECTION 10 AD THAT THE WORD GENERALLY BE STRUCK AND THE WORD MEAN BE MADE PLURAL SO IT SAYS IN MEANS LANDS OR PLACES. >> SECOND. >> MOTION AND SECOND, COMMISSIONER ROSS, MADAM CLERK IF YOU COULD CALL THE VOTES PLEASE. >>THE CLERK: COMMISSIONER ROSS, COMMISSIONER LEDNOVICH, VICE [9.2 Legislative - FUTURE LAND USE MAP AMENDMENT - NON-CITY OWNED PROPERTIES] MAYOR KREGER, YES, MAYOR MILLER. >> CAN ORDINANCE NINE.2. >> ORDINANCE OF THE CITY COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF FERNANDINA BEACH, FLORIDA. TO ADD CONSERVATION AND CREATION LANDS FOR THE PROPERTIES OWNED BY THE STATE OF FLORIDA, NASSAU COUNTY AND OCEAN HIGHWAY AND PORT AUTHORITY COLLECTIVELY TOTALING 6.70 ACRES OF LAND, PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY AND PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE. THIS IS A LEGISLATIVE DECISION, YOU'LL VOTE AT FIRST READING AND IF APPROVED SECOND READING COMING UP IN A MONTH. >> COMMISSIONER ROSS. YOU ARE RECOGNIZED. >> I'M GOING TO MOVE TO APPROVAL. >> SECOND. >> I'VE GONE THROUGH THIS AND I HAVE NO PROBLEM. >> THESE ARE -- THIS IS PART OF THE MATCHING THE ZONING AND THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP. MAKING SURE THAT WE ADD CONSERVATION TO PROPERTIES THAT ARE DESERVING OF THAT AND SO THIS IS CLEAN UP IF YOU WILL. BUT THE PLANNING BOARD DID RECOMMEND APPROVAL. >> VICE MAYOR KREGER YOU'RE RECOGNIZED SIR. >> AND ALL OF THESE ARE DONE COLLEGIALLY IN AND NO DISPUTES? >> NO DISPUTES. THE PROPERTY OWNERS HAVE ALL BEEN NOTIFIED AND NEIGHBORS. THERE MOTION AND SECOND, SEEING NO FURTHER LIGHTS MADAM CLERK WOULD YOU PLEASE CALL THE VOTE. >>THE CLERK: COMERLINGS ROSS, YES, CAN COMMISSIONER LEDNOVICH, YES, COMMISSIONER CHAPMAN, YES. [9.3 Quasi-Judicial - ZONING MAP AMENDMENT - NON-CITY OWNED PROPERTIES] VICE MAYOR KREGER, YES. MAYOR MILLER. >> NEXT ITEM. >> PROPERTIES OWNED BY THE STATE OF FLORIDA NASSAU COUNTY AND OCEAN HIGHWAY AND PORT AUTHORITY. COLLECTIVELY TOTALLY APPROXIMATELY 6.07 ACRES OF LAND, PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY AND PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE. MR. MAYOR AND COMMISSIONERS THIS IS A QUASIJUDICIAL HEARING AND WHAT THAT MEANS IS FIRST WE WILL HAVE MRS. GIBSON, CITY STAFF, FIRST SHE'LL MAKE A PRESENTATION, INTRODUCE EVIDENCE AND TESTIMONY INTO THE RECORD. SHE MAY CALL WITNESSES. NEXT WE WOULD HAVE THE CITY AS THE APPLICANT BUT THE PROPERTY OWNER OR ANY AFFECTED PARTIES HAVE THE ABILITY TO TESTIFY AND SUBMIT EVIDENCE INTO THE RECORD WITHOUT A TIME LIMITATION. AND THERE IS CROSS EXAMINATION BETWEEN ALL OF THE PARTIES ALLOWED AND PARTIES FOR CROSS EXAMINATION INCLUDE ARE AFFECTED PARTIES. IF THERE IS, TONIGHT YOU WILL NOT VOTE, AT FIRST READING. REMEMBER, WE LISTEN TO THE EVIDENCE AND THEN IT WILL COME BACK AT SECONDING READING FOR YOU TO HAVE DELIBERATEIN YOUR MINDS. DELIBERATED IN YOURMINDS. YOU CAN TALK ABOUT IT, AND A MONTH FROM NOW WE WILL HAVE A SECOND AND FINAL READING, WILL NOT BE A QUASIJUDICIAL HEARING. THAT TIME YOU WILL VOTE. ANY COMMISSIONERS THAT HAVE SPOKEN TO THE PARTIES, AN EX PARTE COMMUNICATION, MEANING WHERE BOTH PARTIES, PROPERTY OWNER AND CITY WERE NOT PRESENT SO IF YOU SPOKE TO MRS. GIBSON, IF YOU SPOKE TO THE PROPERTY OWNER AS A COMMISSIONER, JUST DISCLOSE IT TONIGHT AND GENERALLY, WHAT THE CONTENT OF THAT COMMUNICATION WAS. >> MR. ROSS. >> I'VE PROBABLY SPOKEN TO A NUMBER OF THESE PEOPLE BUT I DON'T RECALL ANY SPECIFIC AND IT'S BEEN OVER YEARS. SO NOTHING RECENTLY. NOTHING WITHIN THE LAST TWO MONTHS. >> OKAY O. [01:45:07] >> MR. CHAPMAN. NO. ABOUT MUCH VICE MAYOR KREGER, NO. >> WOULD YOU PLEASE RISE AND TAKE THE OATH POP. >> IF THE ZONING CHANGE IS VOTED ON AND APPROVED FROM THAT SECOND READING DATE THERE IS A 30 DAY APPEAL WINDOW TO APPEAL THE DECISION TO THE CIRCUIT COURT. >> DO YOU SWEAR OR AFFIRM THAT THE ACTUAL STATEMENTS AND REPRESENTATIONS YOU ARE ABOUT TO SPEND TO THIS COMMISSION WILL BE TRUE AND ACCURATE? >> YES. >> THANK YOU MA'AM. >> WELCOME. >> GOOD EVENING, CALY GIBSON, CONSERVATION DIRECTOR, TONIGHT I WILL BE RELYING ON THE BACKUP MATERIALS THAT HAVE BEEN PROVIDED AS PART OF THE AGENDA ITEM THAT IS PROVIDED THIS EVENING. I'M HAPPY TO RESPOND TO ANY QUESTIONS. [9.4 Legislative - FUTURE LAND USE MAP AMENDMENT - CITY OWNED PROPERTIES] >> I SEE NO LIGHTS. WE'RE GOOD TO GO? ITEM 9.4. THIS IS LEGISLATIVE, THIS IS A FUTURE LAND USE AMENDMENT FOR CITY OWNED PROPERTIES. >> ORDINANCE 2020-25. AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF FERNANDINA BEACH FLORIDA. TO OADD CONSERVATION AND RECREATION LANDS FOR THE PROPERTIES OWNED BY THE CITY OF FERNANDINA BEACH, COLLECTIVELY CAN TOTALING 22 MUCH 15 ACRES OF LAND, PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY AND EFFECTIVE DATE. THIS IS A LEGISLATIVE DECISION, YOU ARE FERMENTED TO AND MAKE A MOTION AND VOTE TONIGHT, AT SECOND READING IF IT'S APPROVED. STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL. >> COMMISSIONER ROSS YOU ARE RECOMMENDED. >> I MOVE TO APPROVE. I'VE REVIEWED ALL OF THIS AND IT'S A LONG TIME COMING, GLAD IT'S HAPPENING. >> SECOND. >> I HAVE A MOTION AND SECOND. VICE MAYOR KREGER YOU ARE RECOGNIZED. >> I'M DONE. >> COMMISSIONER KREGER. >> I WOULD LIKE YOU TO KNOW THAT WITH THE CITY PROPERTIES IT IS OUR RESPONSIBILITY TO MAINTAIN THEM AND WE LOOK AT MANAGEMENT PLANS AS WE MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS. >> THANK YOU SIR. AND MADAM CLERK WOULD YOU PLEASE CALL THE VOTE. >>THE CLERK: COMMISSIONER ROSS, [9.5 Quasi-Judicial - ZONING MAP AMENDMENT - CITY OWNED PROPERTIES] YES, COMMISSIONER LEDNOVICH, YES, COMMISSIONER CHAPMAN, YES, VICE MAYOR KREGER, YES, WHY MAYOR MILLER. >> ITE 9.5. WROTE YOU PLEASE INTRODUCE THIS. >> PROPERTIES OWNED BY THE CITY OF FERNANDINA BEACH, COLLECTIVELY TOTALING APPROXIMATELY 22.15 ACRES OF LAND, PROVIDING FOR SEVER ABILITY AND PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE. THIS IS AGAIN FIRST READING AND A QUASIJUDICIAL HEARING, YOU WILL NOT VOTE AT THIS HEARING. FOR THE LAST HEARING, THEY ARE THE SAME. TONIGHT IF YOU WILL HEAR THE EVIDENCE AND TESTIMONY FROM MRS. GIBSON SHE WILL TAKE AN OATH AGAIN, JUST TO MAKE THE RECORD CLEAR SHE'S TAKEN AN OATH, IF THERE ARE ANY AFFECTED NEIGHBORS, IF THERE IS AN APPEAL, THE APPEAL WILL BE FILED AFTER SECOND READING, NEXT MONTH IN AUGUST AND 30 DAYS FROM THEN IS THE WINDOW TIME FOR APPEALING THE DECISION. MRS. GIBSON IS READY FOR HER OATH AND EX PARTE COMMUNICATIONS MR. MAYOR. >> MR. ROSS? >> FLOG IN THE LAST TWO MONTHS. >> MR. LEDNOVICH, NO. VICE MAYOR, NO. OKAY. >> DO YOU SWEAR OR FIRM THAT THE FACTUAL STATEMENTS AND REPRESENTATION YOU ARE ABOUT TO PRESENT TO THIS COMMISSION ARE TRUE? >> YES. >> GOOD EVENING AGAIN, KELLY GIBSON, PLANNING CONSERVATION DIRECTOR, I'LL BE RELYING ON THE MATERIALS PROVIDED IN THE AGENDA AND I'M HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH MA'AM. AND WE MOVE ON FROM THAT NOW. >> JUST MOVE ON, DON'T VOTE. >> SECTION 10, BOARD [10.1 CODE ENFORCEMENT AND APPEALS BOARD] APPOINTMENTS, ITEM 10.1, CODE ENFORCEMENT AND APPEALS BOARD. WE HAVE TWO APPOINTMENTS HERE. >> RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF THE -- BOTH THE INDIVIDUALS WHO HAVE SUBMITTED. >> SECOND. >> MOTION AND SECOND. AND MADAM CLERK WILL YOU PLEASE CALL THE VOTE. >>THE CLERK: VICE MAYOR KREGER, YES, COMMISSIONER LENDZ, YES, [10.2 PLANNING ADVISORY BOARD] COMMISSIONER ROSS, YES, COMMISSIONER CHAPMAN, MAYOR [01:50:05] MILLER. >> ITEM 10.2. >> RECOMMEND THE TWO SEATS OF MR. JOHN BOYLE AND THE OTHER WOMAN I CAN'T FIND HER. >> IT'S BARBRA GAYNOR. AS RECOMMENDED BY THE PLANNING ADVISORY BOARD. >> MOTION AND SECOND, MADAM CLERK. >> MANY VICE MAYOR CREERG, YES. COMMISSIONER ROSS, YES, COMMISSIONER CHAPMAN, COMMISSIONER LEDNOVICH, MAYOR [11. CITY MANAGER REPORTS] MILLER. >> ITEM NUMBER 11, CITY MANAGER REPORTS. >> THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. THE CITY STAFF IS PREPARING BASED UPON A LOT OF COMMENTS, I KNOW WE'VE RECEIVED A FLURRY OF COMMENTS OVER THE PAST COUPLE OF MONTHS REGARDING SATISFACTION WITH ADVANCE DISPOSAL SERVICES. SO CITY STAFF'S PREPARING SATISFACTION SURVEY WHICH WILL BE OFFERED THROUGH ONLINE TO RESIDENTS, SO THAT'S BEING PREPARED. SOME ABOUT SEVEN SIMPLE QUESTIONS YOU WILL BE PROVIDED A LIST OF THOSE QUESTIONS AS WELL AS ADVANCE DISPOSAL OFFICIALS TO REVIEW THOSE QUESTIONS BEFORE THE SURVEY IS PUBLISHED. WE DID HAVE QUESTIONS IN THE 2017 CITIZENS SURVEY AS WELL AS THE 2019 SENTENCE SURVEY AS YOU'RE WELL AWARE, THE SATISFACTION DROPPED MARKEDLY, WITH SANITATION SERVICES BETWEEN THOSE TWO SURVEYS. SO WITH THE ANTICIPATED TRANSITION FROM ADVANCE DISPOSAL TO WASTE MANAGEMENT WE BELIEVE TIME IS APPROPRIATE, SO THAT WE CAN PRESENT WASTE MANAGEMENT WITH THE CONCERNS VOICED BY THE RESIDENTS. SO YOU SHOULD HAVE A COPY OF THAT SOMETIME WITHIN THE NEXT WEEK OR SO TO REVIEW, AND ADVANCE DISPOSAL WILL ACTUALLY SCHEDULE TO BE HERE NEXT MONTH TO OFFER SOME INSIGHTS INTO COLLECTION SERVICES. WE HAVE A COMP PLAN AND LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE, WE RECEIVED APPROXIMATELY 12 I BELIEVE 12 RESPONSES. WE WILL BE MEETING TO REVIEW THOSE QUALIFICATIONS. THE COMMITTEE IS MS. GIBB YOUSON, MR. BEAL, FORMERLY OF THE PLANNING ADVISORY BOARD AND MYSELF. WE WILL PRESENT A REVIEW OF THOSE QUALIFICATIONS TO YOU TO THE PAB BEFORE THEY IN TURN PRESENT A RECOMMENDATION TO YOU. AND FINALLY, YOU WERE PROVIDED COPIES OF THE MONTHLY DEPARTMENTAL REPORTS. IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THOSE, PLEASE ASK ME OR I CAN PASS THOSE QUESTIONS ON TO DEPARTMENT DIRECTORS. >> MR. ROSS. >> YES, THANK YOU. BACK IN JUNE 30TH, THIS YEAR, YOU SENT A LETTER TO MIKE MULLIN WHO IS THE COUNTY MANAGER, ATTORNEY FOR NASSAU COUNTY, ASKING FOR $500 FOR RENOVATION REPAIRS FOR THE CITY RECREATIONAL FACILITIES. HAVE WE HAD ANY RESPONSE? >> NO, WE HAVEN'T. AND JUST FOR THE RECORD, IT WAS $500,000. >> I THINK THAT'S WHAT I SAID, IF I DIDN'T, I SHOULD. >> 500. >> I.T. SHOULD BE 500,000. >> THERE MASS BEEN NO RESPONSE FROM COUNTY STAFF. >> IF YOU WOULDN'T MIND THE PLEASURE OF THE BOARD A FOLLOW UP ON THAT? >> YES I WILL DO THAT TOMORROW. >> VICE MAYOR KREGER. >> COULD YOU UPDATE US ON THE REIMBURSEMENTS FOR CARES MONEY FROM THE COUNTY? >> MS. TESTAGROSE AND I WENT AND MET WITH COUNTY OFFICIALS. BASICALLY THEY -- WE MET WITH THEM ON A THURSDAY AFTERNOON AND WE'RE INSTRUCT THAT WE HAD TO PROVIDE THEM A REPORT BY CLOSE OF BUSINESS ON FRIDAY AS TO WHAT OUR EXPENSES WERE RELATED TO COVID. SINCE THE BEGINNING OF MARCH. AND ALSO WHAT OUR PROJECTED EXPENSES WERE ON VIRUS RELATED EXPENSES THROUGH THE END OF DECEMBER. SO STAFF WORKED DILIGENTLY TO PREPARE THAT INFORMATION, AS -- I THINK WHAT IS THE AMOUNT WE WERE LOOKING AT? 677,000 WHICH DOES INCLUDE THE PREVIOUS DISTRIBUTIONS TO THE NONPROFIT AGENCIES. WE INCLUDED PAYROLL EXPENSES FOR ANTICIPATED UNDER THE FEDERAL CARES OR COVID RESPONSE, IF AN EMPLOYEE IS OUT FOR A SPECIFIC COVID-RELATED REASONS THEY ARE REIMBURSED, SO WE PUT IN PPE, WE BASICALLY ASKED THE DEPARTMENT DIRECTORS TO GIVEN US AS MOST THOROUGH AS POSSIBLE. THE COUNTY IS GETTING AS WHAT IS INDICATED IS APPROXIMATELY $15 MILLION. THEY ARE EXPECTING REQUESTS FOR MUCH MORE THAN THAT. SO THEY WERE -- THEY INFORMED US, THIS IS NOT JUST A WISH LIST BUT YOU MAY NOT GET EVERYTHING [01:55:02] YOU'RE ASKING FOR. BUT DEPARTMENT STAFF HURRIEDLY PUT TOGETHER THEIR EXPENSES TO DATE. SOME OF THE OTHER KEY THINGS WE INCLUDED WERE DECONTAMINATION EQUIPMENT FOR FIRE VEHICLES. THAT WAS INCLUDED AS WELL. THE PPE, THE MONEY WE HAVE GIVEN TO THE CHAMBER, INCLUDING THE THOUSAND DOLLARS, THE COUNTY HAS ACTUALLY HIRED A FINANCIAL CONSULTING FIRMS TO HELP WITH THIS PROCESS. AND THEY EXPECT IT TO BE A TWO TO THREE YEAR PROCESS AND THEY SAID DID YOU COME UP SHORT WITH THAT, THEN FILE A CLAIM WITH FEMA. BECAUSE THIS IS A DECLARED DISASTER. I SAID WE KIND OF HAVE A HISTORY WITH FEMA. SO THAT'S THE CURRENT STATUS OF THE CARES FIRNGD. FUNDING. >> AND ALSO MENTION THAT YOU DID SUBMIT THE LETTER TO THE TDC FOR THE -- FOR THE SEASIDE AND WE MEETING ON THE 29TH I BELIEVE THAT SHOULD BE ON THE TDC AGENDA. >> FOR THE RECORD THAT WAS A REQUEST OF $200,000 ON TOP OF THE $500,000. SPECIFICALLY AGAIN MORE FOR TO GENERAL PUBLIC. THE $500,000 THAT WAS REQUESTED, THE BASIS FOR THAT $500,000 WAS FOR PARKS AND RECREATION ACTIVITIES. BECAUSE THROUGH REPORTS FROM MS. VOIT AND PARKS AND REC DEPARTMENT APPROXIMATELY 50% OR SO OF THE USERS OF CITY'S CREATION FACILITIES ARE NONCITY RESIDENTS. NONCITY -- RECREATION FACILITIES ARE FOR NONCITY RESIDENTS. I SAID WHY DON'T WE ASK THE COUNTY SINLTS WE ARE COUNTY RESIDENTS AS WELL TO PROVIDE CAN FUNDING FOR HALF OF THAT. THAT IS THE BASIS OF THE 500,000. ABOUT VICE MAYOR KREGER IS REFERRING TO THE REDECKING OF THE SEASIDE PARK BOARDWALK, THAT IS BASED ON THE USE OF THAT FACILITY BY TOURISTS, BY VISITORS TO THE CITY AND NOT JUST CITY TAXPAYERS SO THAT WAS THE FOUNDATION OF THAT REQUEST. >> THANK YOU. AROUND I THINK THIS WILL BE THE THIRD TIME THAT I W I BROUGHT I, THE WALK, IT'S EVEN LARGER THAN IT IS BEFORE. STILL NO PHYSICAL BARRICADE. STILL NO ISSUE ABOUT PEOPLE WALKING AND THAT. >> I'LL RAISE THAT WITH PARKS [12. CITY ATTORNEY REPORTS] AND RECREATION. >> ANYTHING ELSE? CITY ATTORNEY? >> JUST WANTED TO THANK YOU ALL FOR BEING LEADERS AND LEADING THE WAY ON THE MASKS AND COVID AND TAKING CARE OF US AND THINKING OF US ALL THE TIME. I KNOW I APPRECIATE IT AND MY NEIGHBORS DO. I WANTED TO JUST, YOU ALL DON'T GET TO SEE WHAT'S UP ON THE PODIUM HERE. SEVERAL YEARS AGO, WE AFFIXED THIS PLEDGE OF CIVILITY AND I WANTED TO SAY THAT I'M GOING TO REMIND EVERYBODY WHAT IT IS. AND YOU ALWAYS FOLLOW IT. EVEN THOUGH YOU DON'T EVEN KNOW THAT IT'S HERE. PLEDGE OF CIVILITY. WE WILL BE RESPECTFUL OF ONE ANOTHER EVEN WHEN WE DISAGREE, CHECK, THANK YOU. WE WILL DIRECT ALL COMMENTS TO THE ISSUES. CHECK, DO A GREAT JOB OF THAT. WE WILL AVOID PERSONAL ATTACKS AND I THINK THAT WE DO. OCCASIONALLY WE POKE A LITTLE BIT. BUT MOSTLY DO. AND THANK YOU SO MUCH, YOU ALL LOOK GREAT SITTING UP THERE. AND IF YOU WATCH OF OTHER CITIES, IF YOU EVER HAVE, IT'S NOT SO NICE ALL THE TIME. SO IT ISN'T. AND SO I JUST WANTED TO THANK YOU. AND THEN A QUOTE FROM ABRAHAM LINCOLN, POLITENESS COSTS SO LITTLE. ABRAHAM LINCOLN. BUT WE SHOULD REMEMBER THAT WHEN WE'RE OUT THERE WITH THE MASKS, AND YOU KNOW SOME PEOPLE HAVE LOOKED AT ME FUNNY WHEN I KIND OF STEP AWAY A LITTLE BIT, THEY FORGET THEY'RE IN YOUR BUBBLE SOCIAL DISTANCE BUT FOR THE MOST PART PEOPLE HAVE BEEN PRETTY POLITE. THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU, WELL SAID. CINDY CLARK. [13. CITY CLERK REPORTS] >> THANK YOU MAYOR. THE 2020 GENERAL ELECTION QUALIFYING PERIOD CONCLUDED LAST FRIDAY JULY 17TH AT 5 P.M. THE FOLLOWING INDIVIDUALS QUALIFIED TO HAVE THEIR NAMES PLACED ON THE 2020 GENERAL ELECTION BALLOT AS FOLLOWS, BRADLEY BEAN AND MARILYN PHILLIPS, INCUMBENT COMMISSIONER ROSS AND WENDELL MCGAHEE. ALSO WE HAVE SEVERAL BOARD OPENINGS AND VACANCIES, THE BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT HAS ONE ALTERNATE VACANCY. THE BOARD OF TRUSTEES, OF FIRE AND PENSION PLAN, HOUSING AUTHORITY, ONE VACANCY. GOLF COURSE ADVISORY BOARD ONE VACANCY. PARKS AND RECREATION ADVISORY COMMITTEE, ONE VACANCY, THE PLANNING ADVISORY BOARD HAS NO VACANCIES NOW. [14. MAYOR/COMMISSIONER COMMENTS] [02:00:02] THANK YOU. >> COMMISSIONER ROSS. >> YES NUMBER 1 I'D LIKE TO THANK, THERE'S A LOT OF HEROES IN OUR COMMUNITY NOW, PARTICULARLY THE PEOPLE, SOME PEOPLE ARE HOME AND ARE SELF QUARANTINING AND PEOPLE WHO GET THEM THEIR GROCERIES, I JUST WANT TO THANK THOSE PEOPLE. I WANT TO THANK THE RESTAURANTS AND BUSINESSES WHO HAVE BEEN ENFORCING OUR MASK ORDINANCE, IT HAS BEEN DIFFICULT, A LOT OF TIMES SOME OF THEIR CUSTOMERS BECOME A BIT UNRULY AND IT'S BECOME DIFFICULT, I'VE TALKED TO A NUMBER OF THEM AND IT'S DIFFICULT. I WANT TO THANK THEM FOR DOING WHAT THEY DO. NUMBER 2 I WANT TO THANK THE CITIZENS WHO FOLLOW THE RULES AND DO WHAT THEY'R SUPPOSED TO DO. JUST TO REVIEW, AGAIN TO AVOID GETTING SICK TRANSMITTING THIS DISEASE, GOOD HAND HYGIENE, KEEP YOUR HANDS FROM YOUR FACE, PRACTICE PHYSICAL DISTANCING. AS YOU POINTED OUT, STAYING AT LEAST SIX FEET FROM PEOPLE FOR ANY PERIOD OF TIME. TO WEAR A MASK WHEN YOU'RE NOT GOING -- YOU ARE INDOORS OR EVEN OUTDOORS WHEN YOU ARE GOING TO BE SPENDING ANY AMOUNT OF TIME WITH SOMEBODY. AND BY THAT I MEAN MORE THAN A FEW MINUTES. AND STAY HOME WHEN YOU'RE SICK. AND THE FINAL THING, I DON'T WANT TO READ SOMETHING THAT CAME FROM THE DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH THAT I GOT TODAY, AND THIS SORT OF SURPRISED ME. IT DIDN'T SURPRISE ME BUT IT'S PRETTY SPECIFIC. AND IT COMES FROM THE DEPARTMENT OF NASSAU COUNTY DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH. IT SAYS KEY POINTS. ONE, IF YOU HAVE A SAMPLE COLLECTED FOR TESTING THAT'S FOR COVID YOU SHOULD SEFLG QUARANTINE I.E., SPACE YOURSELF FROM OTHERS. YOU SHOULD BE SITTING HOME UNTIL YOU KNOW WHETHER THAT TEST IS POSITIVE OR NOT. NUMBER 2 IF YOU HAVE TESTED POSITIVE FOR COVID-19, SELF ISOLATE. LOCK DOWN, YOU SHOULD NOT GO OUT, YOU SHOULD NOT LET NONHOUSEHOLD MEMBERS INSIDE WITH YOU AND YOU SHOULD NOT LET OTHERS CLOSE TO YOU. PUBLIC HEALTH WILL LET YOU KNOW WHEN YOU CAN END YOUR ISOLATION AND LET YOUR CLOSE CONTACTS, THAT IS ANYBODY YOU'VE SPENT MORE THAN A FEW MINUTES WITH SINCE YOU WERE DIAGNOSED, THAT YOU TESTED POSITIVE. AND THREE THEY ASKED IF YOU WERE TOLD YOU HAVE CLOSE CONTACT FOR SOMEBODY WHO HAS TESTED POSITIVE FOR COVID, STAY SCWAWRN TEENED AT HOME FOR 14 DAYS AND MONITOR YOUR HEALTH SYMPTOMS AND GETTING A NEGATIVE TEST WHILE YOU'RE UNDER THE 14 DAY QUARANTINE DOES NOT CHANGE THE LENGTH OF TIME YOU ARE REQUIRED TO STAY SEQUESTERED AT HOME. IF YOU HAVE CLOSE CONTACT WITH SOMEBODY AS YOU HAVE DIVINED MORE THAN 15 MINUTES WITH SOMEBODY WHO DIDN'T HAVE A PLASTIC THE DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH IS ASKING THAT YOU STAY HOME FOR 14 DAYS FROM THE DATE OF THAT EXPOSURE. AND WITH THAT, THAT'S ALL I HAVE TO SAY. >> THANK YOU SIR. COMMISSIONER CHAPMAN. >> THERE IS A LOT OF TALK ABOUT OBVIOUSLY COVID-19. BUT I WOULD JUST LIKE TO SUGGEST TO PEOPLE THAT DON'T FORGET TO GET YOUR SHINGLES SHOT. I AM AT THE END OF ABOUT 15 YEAR BATTLE TRYING TO SAVE THE EYESIGHT IN MY RIGHT EYE WHICH I WILL LOSE AND IT'S ALL BECAUSE OF SHINGLES. SO DON'T FORGET. IF YOU ARE A PERSON WHO MIGHT GET SHINGLES PLEASE GO GET THAT SHOT BECAUSE TRUST ME. SLOWLY LOSING YOUR VISION AT LEAST HALF OF IT IS NOT FUN. THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU SIR. COMMISSIONER LEDNOVICH. >> THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. SO ON THE TOPIC OF COVID, I HAVE SEVERAL PEOPLE ASK ABOUT MY DAUGHTER. AND IT WAS FUNNY BECAUSE DID THENEXT DAY SHE TESTED POSITIVE AGAIN. THIS IS AFTER GO WEEKS. AND THE SYMPTOMS RETURNED. AND SO THE POINT I'M TRYING TO MAKE, THIS IS A HEALTHY, 32-YEAR-OLD. WHO IS NOW IN HER THIRD WEEK WITH THE DISEASE. AND EVEN MORE FRUSTRATING IS, SHE CANNOT GO BACK TO WORK FOR ANOTHER TWO WEEKS. SO ESSENTIALLY, SINCE BEING DIAGNOSED WITH IT, SHE'S GOING TO MISS A MONTH OF WORK. SO THIS IS SOMETHING THAT DOESN'T JUST IMPACT US OLD FOLKS. THIS IS A VIRUS THAT YOU DO NOT WANT. AND I JUST USE THAT AS AN EXAMPLE. NUMBER 2, I WANT TO COMPLIMENT THE UTILITIES DEPARTMENT. I HAD A KNOCK ON MY DOOR AROUND 4:30, AND THEY WERE REPLACING MY WATER MAIN, THE VALVE ON MY WATER MAIN. AND HE WAS STANDING ABOUT TEN FEET AWAY. [02:05:04] MY DOOR, INFORMING ME THEY TOLD ME TO TURN OFF THE WATER, TEN MINUTES, MAN, TEN MINUTES THEY WERE IN AND OUT OF THERE, THEY CAME BACK, YOU'RE GOOD TO GO. BUT IT WAS A PAINLESS VERY NICE EXPERIENCE. ISSO I JUST WANT TO COMPLIMENT THEM FOR THAT. THAT'S ALL I HAVE. >> THANK YOU SIR. VICE MAYOR. >> THE MEDIAN INCOME OF FERNANDINA BEACH IS $59,000 PER HOUSEHOLD. HALF OF OUR HOUSEHOLDS ARE LIVING AT $59,000 OR LESS. 13% OF OUR POPULATION, OF OUR WORKING FORCE IS UNEMPLOYED. 10% OF THE CHILDREN OF AMELIA ISLAND ARE LIVING IN POVERTY. SO WE'RE IN CRISIS. THE OF PO THING ON THURSDAY, THERE WILL BE ANOTHER FOOD GIVE AWAY AT MARTIN LUTHER KING, FARM DAY FROM 9 TO 11. THIS IS THE ELM STREET SPORTSMAN'S CLUB EVERY TUESDAY OF EVERY MONTH HERE AND THE ONLY OTHER THING I HAVE IS WE HAVE SOME CITY STAFF THAT ARE PARTICIPATING IN A NEW RACIAL COALITION WHICH WILL HAVE A SECOND MEETING. IT'S NOT OPEN TO THE PUBLIC, IT'S BEING KIND OF HOSTED BY RICK KEFFER THE OLD AUTO DEALER AND SENATOR BIEM. SENATOR BEAM. THERE IS POSITIVE MOVEMENT ON A NUMBER OF ISSUES. >> THANK YOU. YOU GUYS HAVE SAID EVERYTHING I WAS GOING DO SAY, SO THAT IS GOING TO CUT IT SHORT. I WANTED TO THANK DALE, WE HAD A CITIZEN THAT WAS COMPLAINING ABOUT MISSING INFORMATION ON OUR WALKOVERS. WITHIN 24 HOURS, IT WAS TAKEN CARE OF. WHEN CITIZENS POINT SOMETHING OUT WE T PAY ATTENTION TO IT. >> I WANTED TO APOLOGIZE TO MISS MENCHU FOR NOT ACKNOWLEDGING YOUR CREDIT LETTER. I MADE A MISTAKE NOT HAD REPLYING TO YOU. THAT WAS WELL THOUGHT OUT AND I SHOULD HAVE RESPONDED AND SO I'M SORRY THAT I DIDN'T. >> THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU. >> BEFORE YOU, I WANT TO TELL YOU I NAILED IT TO THE MINUTE. I PREDICTED 8:15. >> I FORGOT A COUPLE OF THINGS I WANTED TO TALK ABOUT. >> DID YOU TELL ANYBODY? >> YOU WROTE DOWN 8:30. >> NO, I WAS 8:15. >> NEAR ELECTION YEAR, THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOLKS, IT'S A PLEASURE WORKING WITH YOU AGAIN. OBVIOUSLY WE'RE IN CRISIS. A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE STRESSED OUT RIGHT NOW, SCHOOLS ARE STARTING BACK UP AGAIN, THAT'S WHY I ASKED ABOUT THE SCHOOL BOARD MEETING. AND IT'S HARD TO REMEMBER THAT WE ARE ACTUALLY YOU'LL IN IT TOGETHER SO LET'S KEEP THAT IN MIND AS WE MOVE FORWARD. SO WITH THAT WE'RE ADJOURNED. * This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.