May 19, 2020 Regular Meeting

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HAVE PUBLIC COMMENT FOR THIS MEETING ALTHOUGH WE HAVE THE

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IN HER E-MAIL TO ME SHE WROTE THE FOLLOWING, I SENT AN E-MAIL LAST WEEK EXPLAINING THAT CITY COMMISSION ADOPTED COMMUNICATION TECHNOLOGY RULES FOR BOARDS, BUT DID NOT EXPRESSLY EXTEND THESE RULES TO THE CITY COMMISSION.

I DON'T DECIDE WHETHER THE COMMISSION TAKES PUBLIC COMMENT USING ALL THE MEMES AVAILABLE.

THE MAYOR AND THE CITY MANAGER ASKED ME TOO CLARIFY FOR THE CONDITION AND MEDIA LAST WEEK THAT IF THE COMMISSION IS TAKING PUBLIC COMMENTS VIA E-MAIL ONLY.

MY REASON FOR SUGGESTING ADOPTION OF COMMUNICATIONS TECHNOLOGY RULES WAS TO ALLOW THE CITIES QUASIJUDICIAL BOARDS TO TAKE TESTIMONY AND EVIDENCE WITH ALL AVAILABLE MEANS. PROCEDURAL DUE PROCESS IS NOT THE SAME AS THE ABILITY TO PROVIDE PUBLIC COMMENT PRIOR TO A LEGISLATIVE VOTE OF THE CITY COMMISSION.

THE COMMISSION IS FOLLOWING FLORIDA LAW BY ALLOWING E-MAIL COMMENTS ONLY. THE COMMISSION CAN ALLOW IT BY ALL MEANS AVAILABLE BUT THIS IS A DECISION OF THE CITY COMMISSION AND THAT'S WHAT TAMMY HAD RESPONDED TO ME.

MY BELIEF WAS AT OUR LAST MEETING WHEN I RAISE THIS ISSUE, VICE MAYOR KREIDER AGREED THAT WE NEEDED PUBLIC COMMENT AND BY CONSENSUS, I BELIEVE WE ALL HAD AGREED THAT WE WANTED TO INCORPORATE OUR TECHNOLOGY ABILITY TO HAVE PUBLIC COMMENT WITH THE EXCEPTION NOTED BY COMMISSIONER ROSS OF THE TELEPHONE.

SO, MY QUESTION IS, WELL, FIRST OF ALL I'M GOING TO RERAISE MY CONCERN, WE HAVE NOW GONE TWO MONTHS AND WE HAVE NO VOICE FROM THE PUBLIC OTHER THAN THE E-MAIL I'M GOING TO READ AND OTHER COMMISSIONERS WILL READ.

AS WE KNOW FROM OUR AGENDA WE HAVE WALKOVER'S, WE HAVE A CHAIN-LINK FENCE, WE HAVE THE ISSUE OF BUSINESS RELIEF FROM THE CHAMBER, WE HAVE THE AIRPORT FIRE STATION MATTER TO

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SO WE CANNOT CONTINUE WITH THIS.

IT IS NOT FAIR, IT IS NOT RIGHT, IT IS NOT THE WAY TO GOVERN SO, I ASKED FOR CONSENSUS TO GET THIS STRAIGHTENED OUT AND RE- INVOLVE THE PUBLIC.

THANK YOU. >> CITY ATTORNEY.

>> I DON'T KNOW IF THE COMMISSION WANTS ME TOO RESPOND FIRST OR THE VICE MAYOR HAD RAISED HIS HAND AS

WELL. >> VICE MAYOR, DO YOU WANT TO

GO AHEAD. >> ME?

>> YES, SIR, YOU ARE RECOGNIZED.

>> YES, I AGREE WITH MIKE AND IF YOU ALL REMEMBER AFTER OUR FIRST MEETING, IN OUR FIRST MEETING, OUR VIRTUAL MEETING I RECOMMENDED WE MOVE FORWARD WITH THE METHOD OF INVOLVING THE PUBLIC AND STAFF USING THE EXAMPLE THAT WAS STATED SUCCESSFULLY. I THINK I GOT THE SAME E-MAIL THAT MIKE HAD GOTTEN. I WAS ABLE TO ANSWER ALL OF THEM BUT HE'S CORRECT WE WOULD'VE HAD A BIG TURNOUT AND I JUST THINK WE HAVE THE TECHNOLOGY.

HOPEFULLY OUR NEXT MEETING WE CAN ACTUALLY HAVE A MEETING BUT IF NOT I THINK IT'S IMPERATIVE THAT WE MAKE SOME PROVISION TO INVOLVE THE PUBLIC OR EVEN AS THE COUNTY DOES, THE COUNTY ACTUALLY READS ALL THE E-MAILS.

>> YES SO I THINK THERE MAY BE A MISUNDERSTANDING ABOUT WHAT MY ROLE IS IN TERMS OF SETTING UP OUR CITY COMMISSION MEETING VERSUS THE BOARD MEETING. BY ROLE IN CITY COMMISSION MEETING IS TO BE THERE, PRESENT WHEN YOU ARE ALL THERE. YOU COME IN AND TURN ON YOUR COMPUTERS OR YOU SHOW UP ON ZOOM.

I HAVE ABSOLUTELY NO OTHER ROLE.

I DON'T CONTROL ANYTHING ELSE THAT GOES ON.

NOT WHERE CHAIR IS PLACED OR ANYTHING.

THAT DOES NOT MEAN I'M SKIRTING MY RESPONSIBILITY.

I SENT THE MEETING PROCEDURES OUT BEFORE THE LAST COMMISSION MEETING ON MAY 5 AND I ASKED FOR ANY CHANGES AND I DIDN'T RECEIVE ANY FEEDBACK SO WE ADOPTED THOSE AND I PUT ALL THE THINGS IN PLACE INCLUDING A PROVISION IN THERE THAT SAID THE CITY COMMISSION MAY USE THESE RULES.

IT IS NOT MY ROLE WITH REGARD TO CITY COMMISSION MEETINGS WHICH THE MAYOR AND THE CITY MANAGER ULTIMATELY, AND THE CITY CLERK OBVIOUSLY FOR LOGISTICS ARE IN CHARGE OF, I HAVE NO SAY. I PROVIDED THIS TOOLS.

IT IS NOT ON ME THAT WE DID NOT USE THE TOOLS.

I'M A LITTLE MIFFED THAT I'M PUT IN THAT POSITION BECAUSE I HAD ABSOLUTELY NOTHING AND AS SOON AS I COULD, AND I'M NOT GOING TO NAME NAMES BUT AT THE OBJECTION OF SOME I WENT AHEAD AND PUT THESE RULES ON THE MAY 5 AGENDA AND WENT AHEAD AND GOT THEM READY AND COMPLETED WITHIN TWO DAYS AND THEY WERE READY TO BE USED AND I SAID WE HAD THE TECHNOLOGY SO IT IS NOT ON ME THAT WE DO NOT HAVE THIS READY.

YOU ARE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT WE HAVE THE TECHNOLOGY.

SO I'VE FALLEN ON THE SWORD AND TAKEN BLAME FOR OTHERS BUT I'M NOT DOING THAT THIS TIME. IT IS NOT MY FAULT THAT WE DON'T HAVE THIS. I'M SORRY I'M BEING DEFENSIVE. IN THE ALTERNATIVE, THE BOARD MEETINGS WHERE I AM ADVISING THE BOARD AND CITY STAFF WHERE THE CITY CLERK, THE CITY MANAGER, MAYOR AND COMMISSIONERS ARE NOT PART OF THOSE I HAVE TAKEN A MORE ACTIVE ROLE AND WE HAVE SET UP ALL OF THOSE MEETINGS, HAD TESTS, ZOOM MEETINGS AND ALL OF THAT.

THOSE BOARDS ARE READY TO GO AND I DON'T SEE ANYTHING OTHER THAN I PROVIDED THE TOOLS AND NOBODY TOOK THEM TO USE THEM FOR THIS MEETING. WE WERE READY AND WE WILL BE READY ON JUNE 2 SO I DON'T KNOW WHAT ELSE TO SAY OTHER THAN I PROVIDED THE TOOLS AND I WOULD LOVE TO HEAR IF YOU

THINK I MISSED ANY TOOLS. >> COMMISSIONER.

>> I'M SITTING HERE VERY, VERY CONFUSED AND THE REASON I AM CONFUSED AND CITY MANAGER, PLEASE CHIME IN HERE, DURING OUR CONVERSATION YESTERDAY I WAS TOLD THAT WE WERE PREPARED TO HAVE THE TECHNOLOGY SPACE IN PUBLIC COMMENTS BUT ON THE

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NOW WHERE AM I IN ERROR HERE AND IF TAMMY SAYS IS TRUE AND I BELIEVE WHAT TAMMY IS SAYING AND I BELIEVE WHAT THE CITY MANAGER TOLD ME BUT WHAT I'M TRYING TO DETERMINE IS WHY, GOSH DARN IT, DON'T WE, AREN'T WE USING IT TONIGHT? SO THERE'S TWO OF YOU. IT'S EITHER THE CITY MANAGER OR THE CITY ATTORNEY SO RAISE YOUR HAND WHOEVER MADE THE DECISION. THANK YOU.

>> THE THREE OF US TAMMY, MYSELF AND JOHNNY HAD A DISCUSSION AND IT WAS POINTED OUT THAT WHAT WAS ADOPTED, THE COMMUNICATIONS TECHNOLOGY WAS APPLICABLE ONLY TO BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS, NOT THE CITY. THAT'S WHAT THE CONVERSATION THAT WE HAD WAS WHICH IS WHY THE DECISION WAS MADE NOT TO EMPLOY TONIGHT. THIS ALL BECOMES MOOT BECAUSE OUR PLAN IS THAT WE WILL HAVE EVERYBODY AND THE PUBLIC AVAILABLE AT THE JUNE 2 MEETING SO, THERE WILL BE PEOPLE ALLOWED TO COME INTO CITY COMMISSION CHAMBERS AND OFFER PUBLIC COMMENTS. WE HOPE THE FIVE OF YOU WILL BE HERE AS WELL JOINING THE MAYOR AND MYSELF.

>> THANK YOU MR. MAYOR. ALRIGHT SO MY UNDERSTANDING IS THEN IT WAS A GROUP DECISION BETWEEN THE MAYOR, THE CITY MANAGER AND THE CITY ATTORNEY NOT TO USE THE TECHNOLOGY TO

MAKE CORRECT? >> IT WASN'T A GROUP DECISION NOT TO MEET YOU ZIP, IT WAS JUST A DECISION AT THE LAST MEETING WE DECIDED TO USE IT FOR QUASIJUDICIAL.

THE REASON IT CAME UP WAS THAT THERE WERE ITEMS THAT COULDN'T BE HANDLED BECAUSE THE PUBLIC HAD TO HAVE A CONVERSATION BACK AND FORTH WHEN THEY'RE DOING, TAMMY WHAT WERE THE EXAMPLES, IF THEY WERE APPEALING CODE ENFORCEMENT VIOLATION OR PERMITTING ISSUE THAT THEY NEEDED TO HAVE AN

ACTUAL CONVERSATION. >> CROSS-EXAMINATION IT'S REQUIRED AND YES YOU HAVE TO BE ABLE TO HAVE COME YOU CAN'T JUST HAVE IN WRITING BEFORE THE MEETING, YOU HAVE TO HAVE

THAT BEFORE IT'S AVAILABLE. >> YES, SO WE VOTED ON THE FACT THAT IT'S QUASIJUDICIAL WHAT WE NEED TO HAVE A BACK-AND-FORTH. DIDN'T INCLUDE, I HEARD WHAT YOU SAID TODAY THAT YOU THINK IT'S ON ACCEPTABLE THAT THERE IS NO PUBLIC COMMENT, BUT I'VE BEEN DOING THIS FOR A WHILE NOW AND IN THIS SEAT I AM ENFORCING THE RULES AND GIVEN.

PUBLIC COMMENT SOMETIMES IS PERCEIVED AT ITS COMMENTS FROM THE PUBLIC TO THE PUBLIC SO THEY CAN GET THEIR WORD OUT SO THE WHOLE WORLD CAN HEAR WHAT THEY HAVE TO SAY IN A PUBLIC SETTING. PUBLIC COMMENT, ON ITEMS NINE ON THE AGENDA ON THE SECTION WHERE PEOPLE WANT TO GET UP TO THE PODIUM AND SPEAK THEY ARE FROM THE PODIUM TO THE NON- LOT NOT FROM THE PODIUM TO THE CHAMBER OR THE INTERNET OR CHANNEL 246, IT'S NOT A WAY FOR THEM, AND I DO ALLOW PEOPLE TO TURN AND FACE THE AUDIENCE AND GO BACK AND FORTH.

WE HAVE PRETTY FAMOUS PEOPLE THAT ARE REPEAT CUSTOMERS THAT TEND TO PREACH TOWARD THE PEOPLE IN HERE AND GET REACTION BACK-AND-FORTH. THAT'S NOT THE POINT OF PUBLIC COMMENTS. THAT'S WHAT FACEBOOK IS.

THAT'S WHERE YOU STAND ON A CURTAIN IN THE MIDDLE OF THE PARK AND EXPRESS YOURSELF. THIS IS A MEETING AND WE GET PEOPLE'S INPUT TO THE COMMISSION SO, THERE IS, COMMENT VIA E-MAIL. THERE'S NONE OF US THAT DON'T HAVE PHONE NUMBERS, E-MAILS, WALK UP AND TALK TO US IN PERSON, YOU'RE ALL GETTING INPUT FROM THE COMMUNITY.

IF THE COMMUNITY WANTS TO TELL THEY'RE SAYING THERE'S OTHER VENUES FOR THAT FOR THE CITY COMMISSION MEETING IS NOT SET UP SO PEOPLE CAN TALK TO THE WORLD.

NOW THE BACK-AND-FORTH CONVERSATION THAT SOMETIMES OCCURS DURING THE PUBLIC COMMENT, THAT CAN HAPPEN VIA E-MAIL AS WELL AND YOU'RE MORE THAN WELCOME TO READ E-MAILS OUT AND DISCUSS THEM BUT AGAIN PUBLIC COMMENT IS NOT THE PUBLIC TALKING TO THE PUBLIC BUT THE PUBLIC SPEAKING TO THE COMMISSION WE HAVE SEVERAL WAYS OF DOING THAT.

THE QUASIJUDICIAL IS THAT THEY HAVE TO HAVE THAT CONVERSATION BACK-AND-FORTH. NOW, IF THIS HAPPENS AGAIN, AS

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IF WE HAVE A VOTE IN THE CONSENSUS IS THAT IF YOU WANT TO HAVE PEOPLE SPEAK TO THE PUBLIC AND HAVE A BACK-AND-FORTH THAT WENT WE CAN ENFORCE BUT I AM ENFORCING

THE RULES THAT I'M HANDED. >> THANK YOU MR. MAYOR AND RESPECTFULLY MR. MAYOR, I AGREE WITH THE PART OF ADDRESSING THE AUDIENCE, THAT IS NOT THE INTENT OF PUBLIC COMMENT, THE INTENSIVE PUBLIC COMMENT IS THE ABILITY FOR THE PUBLIC TO COME IN FACE-TO-FACE WITH THEIR REPRESENTATIVES AND EXPRESS THEIR OPINIONS AND THOUGHTS, PROBLEMS AND SOLUTIONS AND THAT IS A MUCH MORE DYNAMIC CONVERSATION FACE-TO-FACE IN PERSON THEN WRITING AN E-MAIL.

SO THAT IS THE PURPOSE AND THAT IS WHY I AM SAYING THIS IS NOT ACCEPTABLE. PEOPLE HAVE THE RIGHT TO HAVE A FACE-TO-FACE CONVERSATION WITH THE GOVERNING BODY SO, THAT'S MY ONLY POINT ON THAT. I'M NOT GOING TO.

>> TO YOUR POINT YOU MADE A COUPLE STATEMENTS AND SAID PEOPLE AVE THE RIGHT TO HAVE A FACE-TO-FACE CONVERSATION WITH THE BODY AND THE PUBLIC COMMENT THAT WE ALLOW NOT ON THE AGENDA, TO MY UNDERSTANDING THAT IS NOT A STATUTE. THAT IS SOMETHING WE PUT INTO EFFECT AS A CITY TO ALLOW PEOPLE TO DO THAT.

WHEN THE FORMS PEOPLE FILL OUT IT SAYS IT'S AT THE DISCRETION OF THE CHAIR WHETHER OR NOT WE CAN SHORTEN FROM THREE MINUTES TO ANOTHER TIME OR WE CAN JUST SAY THAT'S ENOUGH PEOPLE ARE REPEATING THEMSELVES. I HAVEN'T DONE THAT, WE'VE HAD VERY VOCAL AND I CAN NAME A FEW WHERE WE'VE HAD HOURS OF PUBLIC COMMENT WHERE WAS THE SAME THING OVER AND OVER AGAIN. THE POWER WAS TO CUT THAT OFF DID NOT DO THAT BUT IT'S NOT A RIGHT FOR THE PEOPLE TO GET UP AND SPEAK ON ITEMS THAT AREN'T ON THE AGENDA.

WE ARE NOT VIOLATING ANYONE'S RIGHTS BY NOT HAVING THE BACK-AND-FORTH DURING THE CITY COMMISSION MEETING.

IF I'M WRONG ABOUT THAT YOU CAN CORRECT ME.

OKAY. MACY HER HAND -- I SEE YOUR HAND. I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW FROM COMMISSIONER ROSS ARE EXPERT, HIS BEST MEDICAL ADVICE ON OUR NEXT MEETING, A IS IT SAFE TO HAVE THE FIVE OF US AND IF HE DESIGNATES THAT IT IS SAFE HOW SHOULD IT BE SET UP, WHAT PRECAUTIONS SHOULD BE TAKEN AND SHOULD WE BE WEARING FACEMASKS. DOCTOR ROSS DEFER TO YOU.

>> YOU ARE ASKING QUESTIONS DIRECTLY TO COMMISSIONER ROSS. YOU KNOW YOU'RE NOT REQUIRED TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS LIKE THIS BUT I WOULD SAY YOUR OPINION IS WELCOME BUT I WOULD DEFER TO THE STATE AND FEDERAL CDC GUIDELINES WHEN IT COMES TO WHAT THE GOVERNOR HAS LAID

OUT IN PUBLIC MEETINGS. >> I WOULD AGREE WITH THE MAYOR, BUT I WILL POINT OUT THAT SOME OF US HAVE GONE OUT TO DINNER AND THOUGHT THAT TO BE SAFE WHEN I AM WILLING TO GO TO A MEETING USING THE CDC GUIDELINES.

>> THANK YOU. >> YOU HAVE ANY OTHER PUBLIC

COMMENTS ARE. >> I DO NOT.

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I JUST LOWERED MY HAND. >> I DIDN'T KNOW IF YOU HAD ANY MORE PUBLIC COMMENTS. OKAY.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH WE ARE NOW MOVING ON TO SECTION SIX.

IS THERE ANYTHING I COMMISSIONER WOULD LIKE TO PULL OFF FOR DISCUSSION OR DO I HAVE A MOTION?

>> VICE MAYOR IF YOU ARE TRYING TO MAKE A MOTION YOU ARE MUTED. GO AHEAD.

>> TO HAVE A SECOND. >> THANK YOU.

I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. SEEING NO HANDS RAISED PLEASE

CALL THE BOAT. >> COMMISSIONER ROSS.

>> YES. >> COMMISSIONER CHAPMAN.

>> YES VICE MAYOR KRIEGER. YOU ARE STILL MUTED SIR.

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>> YES. >> THANK YOU.

>> ON TO ITEM SEVEN. THIS IS RESOLUTION.

THIS IS A WORK ORDER LLC, THIS IS THE BUDGET AMENDMENT FOR

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>> THANK YOU MR. MAYOR. YOU HAVE BEFORE YOU A PROPOSED WORK ORDER FROM ASSOCIATES IN THE AMOUNT OF $172,500 FOR DESIGN AND PRE-BID CONSTRUCTION WORK ON A PROPOSED FIRE STATION TO BE LOCATED ON AIRPORT PROPERTY.

THE ORIGINAL WORK ORDER W TOOK US FROM SITE ANALYSIS THROUGH 30% DESIGN IN THIS NEXT WORK ORDER IS PROPOSED TO TAKE US ALL THE WAY THROUGH DESIGN, ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW AND PRE-BID AND PRECONSTRUCTION DOCUMENTS.

>> MOVED TO APPROVE. >> SECOND.

>> A MOTION TO SECOND PERIOD YOUR RECOGNIZER.

>> THANK YOU MR. MAYOR. I RECEIVED FOUR E-MAILS ON THIS TOPIC. ALL OF THEM WERE IN FAVOR OF POSTPONING A DECISION ON THIS AND I'M GOING TO READ ONE OF THE E-MAILS. HE IS A BROKER WITH EMELIA

COASTAL REALTY AND HE WRITES. >> I'M SORRY SIR, IS THE CITY

OR NON- CITY. >> CITY.

>> GO AHEAD SIR. >> HE WRITES THE FOLLOWING, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THE NEW FIRE STATION MOVE POSTPONED UNTIL WE HAVE A CLEAR VISION OF THE TAX BASE IN THE NEXT 24 MONTHS. I AM NOT SURE IF THE LOCAL ECONOMY WILL BOUNCE BACK WHICH MEANS THAT HOTELS AND RESTAURANT TAX REVENUES WILL BE FAR BELOW PREVIOUS ESTIMATES FOR QUITE SOME TIME. A NATIONAL RECESSION IS QUITE LIKELY WHICH WILL FURTHER ERODE TAX REVENUES.

SIMPLY INCREASING TAXES ON THE REMAINING CITIZENS IS NOT A SOLUTION. I'M ALSO CONCERNED ABOUT WHY THE CITY IS THE ONLY ONE FUNDING THIS MOVE.

WHEN I LOOK AT THE MAP OF FERNANDINA BEACH THE AIRPORT IS ALMOST THE MOST SOUTHERN AREA WITH JUST A FEW SMALL SUBDIVISIONS TO THE EAST AND NOT MUCH TO THE SOUTH AS IT IS ALL NASSAU COUNTY. WOULDN'T IT MAKE MORE SENSE TO HAVE A JOINT CITY COUNTY FIRE STATION.

IT SEEMS TO BE MORE OF AN ADVOCATE RATHER THAN A REAL PRO CON ANALYSIS. WHERE'S THE ANALYSIS SHOWING THAT THE HIGH DENSITY AS MUCH OR MORE SERVICE FROM THE NEW LOCATION? I AM BUILDING COTTAGES LESS THAN A BLOCK AWAY FROM THE CURRENT LOCATION AND HAVING IT MOVED TO A HALF MILES AWAY FROM SADLER ROAD SEEMS ILL-CONCEIVED. THERE ARE FIVE HOTELS, MANY CAR ACCIDENTS, NUMEROUS SHOPPING AND RETAIL LOCATIONS WHERE IT'S ALL LOCATED IN THE CENTRAL BUSINESS DISTRICT.

THE AIRPORT IS REALLY IN PLACE FOR DOG WALKING, WEALTHY PRIVATE AIRPLANE OWNERS TO FLY INTO THE ISLAND AND GO TO THE PLANTATION IN THE RITZ-CARLTON.

THIS DOES NOT APPEAR TO BE WELL THOUGHT OUT AND SHOULD BE FURTHER STUDIED. THANK YOU FOR YOUR CONSID CONSIDERATION. I WOULD LIKE TO ADD THAT AS I HAVE BEEN TALKING ABOUT FOR THE PAST THREE MEETINGS, WE DO NOT KNOW THE FINANCIAL FUTURE, WHETHER WE WILL BE IN A DEEP RECESSION, WHAT THE CITY REVENUES WILL BE, THIS IS NOT AN EMERGENCY FUNDING, WE CAN DEFER OR POSTPONE THIS APPROVAL, IT'S $172,000. I WOULD REMIND MY FELLOW COMMISSIONERS THAT IF THEY LOOK AT THE FINANCIALS THEY WILL PAY THAT SALES TAX 13% BELOW WHERE IT SHOULD BE AT THIS TIME OF YEAR END OTHER REVENUE IS 35% BELOW THE VARIANCE, THE AMOUNT WE EXPECT TO BE COLLECTED FOR THE REST OF THE BUDGET YEAR IS $4,392,000.

WE HAVE NO IDEA HOW MUCH OF THAT WE WILL COLLECT SO I WOULD SUGGEST POSTPONING THIS.

THANK YOU. >> VICE MAYOR YOU ARE

RECOGNIZED. >> I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT WHAT WE ARE DOING HERE IS WE ARE DESIGNING A FIRE STATION. WERE NOT BUILDING THE FIRE STATION. BEFORE WE COMMIT TO BID WE WILL HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY AND THE DECISION WILL BE MADE BASED ON THE FINANCIAL SITUATION WHICH I'M NOT

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I'VE RECEIVED I THINK FIVE OR SIX E-MAILS, I RESPONDED TO THEM ALL AND ONE POINT TALKS ABOUT LEVELS OF SERVICE.

THE LEVELS OF SERVICE PRESCRIBED BY THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN WILL BE MAINTAINED AT THAT LOCATION ALSO SO THOSE LEVELS OF SERVICE ARE BASICALLY DETERMINED BY RESPONSE TIME WITH EQUIPMENT AND I BELIEVE THERE ACTUALLY IS A CHART THAT SHOWS THAT AND THE OTHER FURTHER THING IS THAT EACH FIRE STATION, WE NEED TO GET OUT OF THAT FIRE STATION. I HAVE HEARD COMMENTS THAT DISTURB ME AND I'VE BEEN IN THAT FIRE STATION.

WE NEED TO DO SOMETHING WITH THAT.

>> THANK YOU SIR. YOU ARE RECOGNIZED.

>> MR. MAYOR, I RAISED MY HAND.

>> I DON'T SEE IT. YOU WANT TO TRY AGAIN.

>> I'M NOT SEEING IT. >> THERE YOU GO.

I SEE IT NOW. >> I'M SORRY, FORGIVE ME SIR.

>> GO AHEAD. >> I'M SORRY, KIM I CANNOT GO. GO AHEAD.

YOU ARE RECOGNIZED. >> I ACTUALLY ASKED FOR COMMENTS ON THIS FROM A NUMBER OF PEOPLE AND I RECEIVED FOUR E-MAILS, THREE E-MAILS AND ONE WAS UNSOLICITED.

ONE WAS FROM FRANK WHO ANSWERED A NUMBER OF VERY GOOD QUESTIONS OF TECHNICAL THINGS AND HAD SOME CONCERNS AND I BELIEVE THEY ANSWERED THEM AND THE CHIEF SENT AN E-MAIL, I'M NOT GOING TO READ IT, IT'S LONG BUT IT BASICALLY OFFSETS WHAT MR. GRIFFIN DID ABOUT THE COST, TIMING AND LOCATION IN THE COUNTY PARTICIPATION IN THIS PROJECT AND THAT THE FUNDING SHOULD NOT BE DONE AT THIS TIME BECAUSE OF COVID AND I RECEIVED AN E-MAIL THAT YOU'VE ALREADY READ INTO THE RECORD AND I RECEIVED ONE FROM LAURA WHO SAID I'M WRITING TO DELAY THE DECISION TO MOVE FIRE STATION NUMBER TWO TO A NEW LOCATION BEFORE MAKING THIS DECISION TO MOVE FORWARD. [INAUDIBLE] FINALLY I RECEIVED ONE, A NUMBER OF E-MAILS FROM JERRY DECKER WHICH I WILL READ THE LAST ONE AND THEN THERE ARE SOME TECHNICAL QUESTINS WHERE MANY QUESTIONS WERE ANSWERED AND HE ENDED UP WITH THE SPREAD YOU WILL GET MORE PUSHBACK ON THE COST, LOCATION, TIMING OF THE FIRE PROJECT. BESIDES THESE ISSUES THE PRESENCE OF A FIRE STATION AT THE AIRPORT OPENS THE WAY FOR REGULAR SCHEDULED PASSENGER FLIGHTS.

ONCE BUILT THIS WILL HAPPEN. THIS IS SMALL POTATOES ONCE PEOPLE KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON. PUSHBACK IS COMING.

SO, I WOULD AGREE WITH THE COMMISSIONER THAT WE DO HAVE A FIDUCIARY RESPONSIBILITY TO MAKE SURE TAXPAYER MONEY IS SPENT WISELY AND MANY VALID CONCERNS HAVE BEEN RAISED MOSTLY ABOUT DEALING WITH TIMING AND COST BUT ALSO LOCATION ON THIS PROJECT. I ALSO BELIEVE WE HAVE A MORAL RESPONSIBILITY. THIS WAS NOT MENTIONED IN ANY OF THESE COMMENTS AND HASN'T BEEN MENTIONED SO FAR BY ANY OF YOU. THE CURRENT BUILDING WAS BUILT IN 1978. IT'S OBSOLETE.

IT IS 42 YEARS OLD. I HAVE BEEN THERE.

IT'S AT BEST DISHEARTENING. IT DOES NOT MEET THE CURRENT REGULATIONS AND WHAT THAT HAS TO DO WITH IS THE DIESEL FUMES ACCUMULATING IN THE BAY GET SUCKED UP INTO AIR CONDITIONING SO THEY ARE BREATHING DIESEL FUMES IN THE AIR CONDITIONING SYSTEM AND DIESEL IS NOT ONE OF THE BEST THINGS TO KEEP BREATHING. IT ALSO MAKES IT VERY DIFFICULT FOR OUR DEPARTMENT TO E-MAIL FIREFIGHTERS BECAUSE OF THE DORMITORY NATURE OF THE LIVING ARRANGEMENT.

BASICALLY THEY LIVE IN BUNKS WITH SHEETS BETWEEN THEM, BUT MORE IMPORTANTLY AND PROBABLY MOST IMPORTANTLY, THESE ARE THE FIRST RESPONDERS WERE GOING TO SHOW UP AND PULL YOU OUT AND PULL YOUR FAMILY OUT OF A BURNING BUILDING.

THESE ARE THE FIRST RESPONDERS WERE GOING TO SHOW UP TO EXTRACT YOU FROM A CAR WRECK. THESE ARE THE FIRST RESPONDERS WERE GOING TO GO SHOW UP TO TAKE YOU TO THE HOSPITAL WHEN YOU CAN'T BREATHE WITH YOUR COVID-19 INFECTION.

THESE ARE THE PEOPLE WERE GOING TO SHOW UP WHEN YOU'RE HAVING A HEART ATTACK AND MAKE SURE YOU GET TO WHERE YOU CAN TAKE CARE OF IN A TIMELY MANNER.

THESE ARE THE FIRST RESPONDERS WHO SHOW UP TO ASSIST YOU AND YOUR FAMILY AND YOUR COMMUNITY'S FAMILY, OFTEN

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THIS IS THE NEXT STEP IN PROVIDING A DECENT, HEALTHY WORKING ENVIRONMENT FOR OUR FIRST RESPONDERS.

IT IS OUR COMMUNITY RESPONSIBILITY TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO FUND THIS WITHOUT RAISING TAXES.

I BELIEVE IF WE WORK TOGETHER WE CAN MEET THAT CHALLENGE.

I ALSO BELIEVE THE CITY AND I WILL SUPPORT THIS PROJECT.

>> VERY WELL SAID. THANK YOU SIR.

I AGREE ONE 100% WITH VICE MAYOR KRIEGER AND COMMISSIONER ROSS. OUR FIREFIGHTERS DESERVE THIS, I BELIEVE ONE OF THE E-MAILS SAID WHY DO WE NEED A CADILLAC WHEN CHEVROLET WILL DO. WELL, IN AN EMERGENCY WOULD YOU RATHER HAVE A CADILLAC RESPONSE OR CHEVROLET? SO, I SUPPORT THE FIRE STATION, I SUPPORT THE FACILITIES. MY ONLY QUESTION IS SHOULD WE BE SPENDING $172,000 WHEN WE DON'T KNOW THE FINANCIAL FUTURE OF THE CITY. THAT IS MY ONE AND ONLY QUESTION ON THIS ISSUE. AND WE ARE IN UNCHARTED TERRITORY, WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THE FUTURE HOLDS AND YOU KNOW WHAT, WE MIGHT SPEND $170,000 FOR PLANS FOR A FIRE STATION AND NEVER HAVE THE MONEY TO BUILD IT BECAUSE OF THE FINANCIAL CRISIS. THOSE PLANS WILL JUST SIT THERE IN THE EXAMPLE I WILL GIVE MY FELLOW COMMISSIONERS IS THE HALF A MILLION DOLLARS WE SPENT ON THE ENGINEERING PLANS IN ANTICIPATION OF A WATERFRONT PARK THAT WAS NEVER BUILT SO TELL ME THE VALUE OF THOSE HALF MILLION DOLLARS AND PLANS AND THAT IS TAXPAYER MONEY.

SO THAT IS THE POINT I WANT TO MAKE.

THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU.

THIS FIRE STATION IS, FIRST OF ALL I TAKE OFFENSE TO THE GENTLEMAN WHO SAID WE ARE PLANNING A CADILLAC WHEN ALL WE NEED IS A CHEVROLET. THAT INDIVIDUAL, I DON'T BELIEVE HAS REALLY SAT DOWN AND TALKED WITH THEM.

THIS FIRE STATION WAS PLANNED BY THE CHIEF.

THERE IS NOTHING EXTRAVAGANT. IT'S DESIGNED, AND A LOT OF PEOPLE DON'T UNDERSTAND THIS. WHILE YOU ARE SITTING AT HOME I WANT YOU TO LOOK AROUND YOUR HOUSE.

LOOK AT ALL THE THINGS THAT YOU ARE SITTING ON IN THE RUGS AND THINGS. YOU DON'T PROBABLY UNDERSTAND THAT WHEN THOSE START TO BURN THEY GIVE OFF CARCINOGENS AND OUR FIREFIGHTERS WALKED INTO THAT CLOUD OF CARCINOGENS AND HELP SAVE YOUR HOUSE AND YOUR THINGS.

I WAS AMAZED TO SEE THAT AFTER THE FIRE IS OUT THEY STAND IN LINE, FULL YEAR, FULL BUNKER GEAR AND BASICALLY WASH THEMSELVES DOWN. THIS STATION IS DESIGNED AND ARMED WITH DIESEL FUEL SO THAT WHEN THEY GET BACK IN THE STATION THEY CAN GO IN A ROOM, PUT IT IN THE WASHER I'M ABOUT FOUR THEY DO THAT THEY GET CLEANED, AND THEN ONCE THEIR GEAR IS OFF THEY CAN GO IN AND SHOWER.

THE FACILITY THAT WE NOW USE CAN'T DO THAT.

WE NEED HEAVY DUTY WASH MACHINES SO THE BUNKER GEAR CAN GET WASHED AND CLEANED AND THE CARCINOGENS TAKEN OFF THEM SO THEY ARE READY TO GO OUT ON THEIR NEXT CALL.

PEOPLE TALK ABOUT COVID-19. WHAT ABOUT CANCER FOR OUR FIREFIGHTERS. YOU CAN BE A FIREFIGHTER FOR YEARS AND I THINK 911 SHOWS THIS, OUR FIREFIGHTERS DESERVE IF AFTER THE DESIGN WE CAN'T AFFORD IT, FINE WE CAN'T AFFORD IT BUT WE NEED TO MOVE FORWARD.

THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS WE DO REALLY WELL AS WE DRAG OUR FEET AND WE DRAG OUR FEET AND WE DRAG OUR FEET.

AT SOME POINT YOU HAVE TO PICK THEM UP AND LAMB DOWN AND MOVE

FORWARD. >> COMMISSIONER ROSS, YOU ARE

RECOGNIZED OR. >> I DIDN'T RAISE MY HAND.

>> OKAY. MOTION TO SECOND, COMMISSIONER

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YOUR HAND IS STILL UP. >> SORRY.

>> CAN YOU CALL THE VOTE. I SUPPORT FULLY THE PROJECT IN THE FIREFIGHTERS BUT UNTIL I KNOW THE FINANCIAL STRAITS OF THE CITY, I $172,000 WE CAN APPROVE THIS NEXT MONTH, I'M

GOING TO VOTE NO. >> VICE MAYOR KRIEGER.

>> YES. >> YES.

>> AND WE HAVE ANY OTHER BUDGET ON THE AGENDA?

>> THAT'S THE ONLY DIRECT ONE.

>> OKAY. LET ME JUST SAY THIS QUICK BEFORE WE MOVE ON. THERE IS CONCERN THAT I GET FROM THE COMMUNITY, A LOT OF THE CONCERN IS ABOUT A DEADLY DISEASE THAT'S OUT THERE AND WE HEAR ABOUT 24 HOURS A DAY SEVEN DAYS A WEEK BUT I REALLY DON'T WANT PEOPLE TO BE CONCERNED ABOUT AND SPEAKING DIRECTLY TO MEMBERS OF OUR COMMUNITY RIGHT NOW. THERE IS CONCERN THAT WE ARE IN UNCHARTED TERRITORY. WE HAVE STAFF MEMBERS HERE IN OUR CITY MANAGER THAT KNOW THIS IS COMING AS WELL.

THE IDEA THAT WE HAVE NO IDEA WHAT'S CAN HAPPEN WE SHOULD BE SUPER CAREFUL BECAUSE WE DON'T KNOW WHAT TOMORROW HOLDS, I PERSONALLY FROM MY EXPENSE IN THE LAST SEVEN YEARS AND EVERY ISSUE I'VE EVER DEALT WITH WE ARE BACK TO A BAD RECESSION TIME AND BACK TO WHERE WE WERE BEFORE THAT HAPPENED CONSIDERING HOW BAD IT WAS. I WANT PEOPLE TO UNDERSTAND THAT YOU DO HAVE PEOPLE IN THESE BUILDINGS WHOSE EVERYDAY JOB THAT ALL THEY LIVE, EAT AND BREATHE IS MAKING SURE THE CITY FUNCTIONS AND THAT WE ARE GOING TO BE OKAY.

WHEN I HEAR PEOPLE ARE CONCERNED THAT WERE NOT THINKING AHEAD AND WERE SPENDING THINGS WE SHOULDN'T BE SPENDING, I DON'T WANT THE PUBLIC PERCEPTION TO BE THAT WITHOUT ANY IDEA WHAT'S GOING ON.

I WOULD INVITE ANYBODY TO CONTACT ANYONE AGO ON THE CITY WEBSITE JUST LIKE IF YOU HAVE CONCERNS ABOUT THE GREENWAY OR PARKS AND RECREATION AND ABOUT WHAT'S GOING ON WITH THE TREES. WE HAD PEOPLE YOU CAN CALL AND ASKED THAT QUESTION DIRECTLY INSTEAD OF HAVING BACK-AND-FORTH, I LOOK AT ALL THESE FACEBOOK PAGES OUT THERE AND I WATCH THE COMMENTS AND I JUST GO WELL THAT'S WRONG AND IT CONTINUES TO BE WRONG AND ALL THEY SAY IS CALLED THE PEOPLE IN CHARGE OF THIS AND I THINK YOU'LL SLEEP A LOT

[Item 7.2]

WITH THAT BEING SAID WE ARE ON TO 7.2, A GRANT APPLICATION FOR THE FLORIDA DEPARTMENT OF STATE DIVISION AND HISTORIC RESOURCES. I GUESS THAT CITY MANAGER.

>> YES, SIR. >> THIS IS A GRANT APPLICATION FOR THE REPOINTING, THE CITY IS IN THE PROCESS ALLOWING US TO APPLY FOR THE MAXIMUM GRANT FUNDING OF $500,000, THE TOTAL PROJECT COST IS PROXIMALLY $1.5 MILLION SO THIS IS SEEKING PERMISSION TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THAT GRANT APPLICATION. THIS IS A SPECIAL GRANT, NONMATCHING FUNDS OF $500,000.

>> YOU HAVE A MOTION. >> THANK YOU SIR.

>> SECOND. >> AND THE SECOND WAS

COMMISSIONER ROSS. >> VICE MAYOR YOU ARE

RECOG RECOGNIZED. >> IT'S A MILLION FIVE AND WE GET 500,000, THE OTHER MILLION IS T IN THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN OR WILL BE OR HOW WILL WE FINANCE THAT.

>> IT WILL COME THROUGH THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN AND OTHER ADDITIONAL GRANTS THAT ARE BEING PURSUED.

>> OKAY, THANK YOU. >> AND A MOTION TO SECOND, MADAME CLERK PLEASE CALL THE ROLL.

[Item 7.3]

>> ITEM 7.3, THIS IS A CONTRIBUTION TO THE NASSAU COUNTY CITY COMMERCE. CITY MANAGER.

>> AS IT WAS RAISED IN THE PAST CITY COMMISSION MEETING, INTEREST WAS EXPRESSED IN PROVIDING SUPPORT TO MATCH THE CHAMBER OF COMMERCE PROGRAM OF OFFERING FINANCIAL SUPPORT TO CITY BASED BUSINESSES, SPECIFICALLY CONTRIBUTING AN ADDITIONAL $20 TO MATCH THE CHAMBERS COMMITMENT FOR PROTECTIVE AND SANITATION SUPPLIES FOR CITY BASED

BUSINESSES. >> THANK YOU.

COMMISSIONER ROSS YOU ARE RECOGNIZED.

>> THANK YOU MAYOR. I HAVE RECEIVED NUMEROUS E-MAILS CONCERNING A RESOLUTION PASSED BY THE LOCAL CHAMBER OF COMMERCE ON 15 MAY 2020 TO SUPPORT SMALL

[00:45:03]

>> THANK YOU. >> VICE MAYOR YOU ARE

RECOG RECOGNIZED. >> I WANT TO POINT OUT THIS FOR THE PURPOSE OF MATCHING THE CHAMBERS AVAILABLE TO ANY ORGANIZATION, ANY BUSINESS IN THE CITY, NOT JUST CHAMBER MEMBERS, AND REFERENCING WHAT CHIP TALKED ABOUT I BELIEVE THERE ALSO IS IN PROCESS ONE OTHER GOALS OR ONE OTHER REQUEST WAS TO UTILIZE THE RIGHT AWAY TO EXPAND RESTAURANT CAPACITY. THAT WOULD ALSO BE, IN MY MIND POTENTIAL PARKING LOTS THAT ARE APPROPRIATELY DONE AND I BELIEVE MAINSTREET IS IN THE PROCESS OF COMING UP WITH PROCEDURES ON THAT. ALSO THEY HAVE TALKED AT VARIOUS TIMES AND IS WORKING ON MAYBE SOME BENEFICIAL THINGS FOR BUSINESSES SO WE WON'T SEE THAT FOR A WHILE.

I BELIEVE THEY SAID WHERE WE REVIEWED THE REST OF THE POST

AND WILL COME BACK. >> I THINK WILL AT LEAST HAVE THE PRELIMINARY MEETING THE ACTION WILL BE POSSIBLE INTO

JUNE 16. >> THANK YOU.

>> AND NONMEMBERS OF THE CHAMBER WITH BUSINESS INVOLVED IN THIS, HOW WOULD THEY, WITH A REACH OUT.

>> I BELIEVE SINCE THIS IS A CHAMBER PROJECT THEY WOULD HAVE TO REACH OUT TO THE CHAMBER, BUT I BELIEVE AND BOTH VICE MAYOR KRIEGER AND ROSS WERE ON THE CONFERENCE CALL THIS MORNING AND I BELIEVE IT WAS INDICATED THAT THESE PRODUCTS AND EQUIPMENT ARE AVAILABLE TO THE GENERAL BUSINESSES, NOT NECESSARILY REQUIRING MEMBERSHIP IN THE CHAMBER OF COMMERCE AND I BELIEVE THAT'S WHAT MS. DUNCAN

INDICATED THIS MORNING. >> COMMISSIONER YOU ARE

RECOGNIZED. >> THANK YOU MR. MAYOR.

I WAS ORIGINALLY GOING TO READ AN E-MAIL BUT I'M NOT GOING TO READ IT BECAUSE IT SPECIFICALLY GOES INTO THE PROPOSED RESOLUTION WHICH WAS PASSED BY THE CHAMBER OF COMMERCE AND REFERENCE BY COMMISSIONER ROSS, BUT I BELIEVE THAT THE EIGHT ITEMS SHOULD BE ON THE NEXT AGENDA FOR DISCUSSION, AND I HAVE REQUESTED REVENUE INFORMATION AROUND FOUR OF THESE AS TO THE IMPACT ON THE CITY.

SO AS LONG AS WE ARE GOING TO DISCUSS THEM AT OUR NEXT MEETING AND IT'S ON THE AGENDA, I'M GOING TO FORGO READING THIS. THANK YOU.

>> COMMISSIONER ROSS. >> VICE MAYOR KRIEGER.

>> YES. [INAUDIBLE]

COMMISSIONER. >> YES.

>> COMMISSIONER CHAPMAN. >> YES.

>> MAYOR MILLER. >> YES.

>> ALL RIGHT. WE ARE ON SECTION EIGHT NOW.

[Item 8.1]

>> YES. >> ORDINANCES FIRST READING OUT OF 8.1. BUILDING HEIGHT ENCROACHMENTS

AND I GUESS THAT CITY ATTORNEY. >> YOU ARE MUTED MA'AM.

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>> OKAY. ORDINANCE 2020 -- 16 AND ORDINANCE OF THE CITY COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF VERNON FERNANDINA BEACH ADDING OR AMENDING CERTAIN DEFINITIONS, STANDARDS FOR BUILDING AND BUILDING PLACEMENT AND AMENDING SECTION 10.0 2.0 ONE SUB B VARIANCES PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY AND AN EFFECTIVE DATE.

THIS MORNING COMMISSIONER ROSS AND THE CITY MANAGER AND I MET TO TALK ABOUT THIS AND ONE DISTINCTION I'D LIKE TO MAKE VERY CLEAR TO COMMISSIONERS AND THE PUBLIC BECAUSE IT WAS ONE OF COMMISSIONER ROSS'S QUESTION IS, SO THIS PROPOSED CHANGE PROVIDE REALLY TO STANDARDS, IF YOU WILL, FOR MEASURING BUILDING HEIGHT. ONE IS ON THE BEACH WITHIN A THOUSAND FEET OF THE COASTAL CONSTRUCTION LINE, THAT'S THE LITTLE ONE THAT YOU SEE WITH ALL THE UNDERLYING, BRAND-NEW LANGUAGE, IT SAYS THAT CHIMNEYS AND VENTS, SO WE KNOW ABOUT WASTEWATER VENTS ON TOP, OVER YOUR KITCHEN AND BATH, VENTING SYSTEMS AND CHIMNEYS WILL NOT BE COUNTED ON THE BEACH WITHIN 1000 FEET OF THE CCL AND OF COURSE ACROSS THE STREET FROM THE BEACH, HOWEVER, THAT MEANS THE ELEVATOR SHAFT THAT WE'VE SEEN IN SOME BUILDINGS, THEY BUILD THAT SHAFT UP ONTO AN OUTDOOR DECK OR R ROOFTOP DECK, THAT WOULD BE INCLUDED IN THE 35-FOOT CALCULATION BUT A CHIMNEY FOR THE VENTS WOULD NOT.

THAT IS DIFFERENT THAN HOW WE WILL MEASURE HEIGHT IN OTHER PLACES IN THE CITY WHERE MECHANICAL EQUIPMENT SO HVAC SYSTEMS, ELEVATOR SHAFT AND THINGS LIKE THAT WILL BE INCLUDED IN THE HEIGHT CALCULATION SO TH THEY WILL BE ALLOWED. ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS FROM COMMISSIONERS ABOUT THAT. THAT WAS A QUESTION THAT THE

COMMISSIONER HAD. >> COMMISSIONER YOU ARE

RECOGNIZED. >> I HAVE A COMMENT.

I DON'T HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR TAMMY.

>> ME I JUST FINISH ONE LAST THING, THEN HOPEFULLY WILL ANSWER HIS COMMENT. YOU WILL SEE IT SAYS REPLACED WITH IS HOW THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT AND CONSERVATION APARTMENT HAS SHOWN YOU WHAT IS MEASURING HEIGHT ALL OVER TOWN AND THEN YOU'LL SEE IT JUST HAPPENS TO BE ON THE NEXT PAGE THERE'S A LITTLE SUB A THAT'S INTENDED TO GO UNDER THAT NUMBER TWO SO THAT'S 2:00 A.M. IT'S BRAND-NEW AND THE COMMISSIONER SUGGESTED THAT SOMEHOW WE REFERENCE BACK TO NUMBER TWO AND AFTER LOOKING AT IT AGAIN, IF IT WAS IN A DIFFERENT PARAGRAPH OR SECTION THAT MIGHT BE OKAY BUT JUST TO SAY SEE THE LAST SENTENCE MIGHT BE A LITTLE

OVERKILL. >> AGREED.

>> COMMISSIONER YOU ARE RECOGNIZED.

>> THIS IS A LONG TIME COMING.

I STARTED TRYING TO GET THIS THROUGH TWO AND HALF YEARS AGO , 35 FEET IS 35 FEET AND THAT HAS SORT OF BEEN THE SACRED THING HERE, AND THEN IT'S BEEN GAMED AROUND FOR YEARS.

SO WHAT THIS REALLY DOES IS ON THE OCEAN YOU CAN ONLY BUILD A 35 FEET. IF YOU WANT HAVE A DECK IT HAS TO BE BELOW 35 FEET. EVERYTHING EXCEPT WHAT'S REQUIRED BY BUILDING CODE WHICH IS JUST CHIMNEYS AND VENTS HAVE TO BE BELOW 35 FEET AND I STRONGLY SUPPORT THIS

AND MOVE TO APPROVE. >> THANK YOU'S ARE.

>> I SECOND IT AND THIS ELIMINATES ELEVATOR SHAFTS ON

THE BEACH, IS THAT RIGHT. >> LET'S GO BACK TO THE HAND SYSTEM BEFORE WE MAKE IT CONFUSING.

YOU HAD A QUESTION ABOUT THE ELEVATOR SHAFT.

DOES THAT INCLUDE ELEVATOR SHAFTS.

>> ON THE BEACH. >> YES, THAT'S EXACTLY RIGHT SO ON THE BEACH, THE ONLY THING THAT CAN BE ABOVE THE 35 FEET HARD CHIMNEYS AND VENTING SYSTEMS.

THAT'S IT. >> THANK YOU.

>> THAT'S RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES, NOT COMMERCIAL.

>> CITY ATTORNEY I DON'T HAVE THE DOCUMENTATION IN FRONT OF

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>> WELL, WE'VE ACTUALLY TAKEN, AND THIS IS NOT IN THIS SET OF WORK, I'M NOT LOOKING AT THE ORDINANCE ITSELF BUT WE'VE TAKEN CARE OF THAT. NUMBER ONE YES, STAFF ENDORSES THIS LANGUAGE IN THE PLANNING ADVISORY BOARD RECOMMENDS APPROVAL OF THIS LANGUAGE AND EMBEDDED IT SEVERAL TIMES, YES I THINK THAT YOU WILL AND COULD HAVE AN EFFECT THAT WAY, HOWEVER THERE IS ALSO PROPOSED LANGUAGE COMING TO YOU THAT SAYS YOU CANNOT WITHIN A THOUSAND FEET OF THE COASTAL CONSTRUCTION CONTROL LINE YOU CANNOT GET A VARIANCE FOR YOUR SIDE SETBACKS SO YOU CAN'T COMMON STAFF IS GOING TO ALSO PAY ATTENTION SO YOU'RE NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO PILE A BUNCH OF STUFF FROM THE ROOF ON THE SIDE AND GET EVEN

CLOSER TO YOUR NEIGHBORS. >> YES, CONCERN WAS, I DON'T KNOW HOW ELEVATORS WORK BUT IT REQUIRES SOME MACHINE AND MAYBE THE TECHNOLOGY HAS GOTTEN BETTER THAN IT WAS FIVE

YEARS AGO. >> I AM NOT A CONTRACTOR BUT MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT THE PLANNING AND CONSERVATION DEPARTMENT HAS TALKED ABOUT THIS AND ARCHITECTS AND THERE IS ABSOLUTELY A WAY TO PUT ALL OF THAT MECHANICAL EQUIPMENT UNDERNEATH IN A RESIDENTIAL CONSTRUCTION UNDERNEATH THE ELEVATOR. IT DOES NOT HAVE TO GO ON

TOP. >> GREAT.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >> COMMISSIONER ROSS YOU ARE

RECOGNIZED. >> TWO POINTS.

THAT'S WHY THIS IS RESIDENTIAL ONLY BECAUSE COMMERCIAL ELEVATORS YOU NEED THE EXTRA HEIGHT BUT OTHER ELEVATORS CAN BE PUT UNDERNEATH. NUMBER TWO AS PART OF THIS RESOLUTION TO SAYS THE VARIANCE SHALL NOT BE GRANTED TO REDUCE THE MINIMUM YARD SETBACKS, BUILDINGS FOR WITHIN A THOUSAND FEET OF THE COASTAL CONTROL LINE SO THAT MEANS YOU NO LONGER CAN GET RID OF THOSE VIEW CORRIDORS BETWEEN HOUSES AND PACKED THE HOUSES IN ONE NEXT TO THE OTHER.

>> WHICH IS VERY IMPORTANT. THANK YOU SIR.

>> OKAY. A MOTION TO SECOND, I DON'T SEE ANY BLUE HANDS IN THE AIR SO IF YOU COULD CALL THE VOTES

WE MET COMMISSIONER ROSS. >> YES.

>> VICE MAYOR KRIEGER. >> YES.

>> COMMISSIONER CHAPMAN. >> YES.

>> MAYOR MILLER. >> YES.

>> OKAY ITEM 8.2 THIS IS LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE PLANNING AND ADVISORY BOARD MEMBERSHIPS. CITY ATTORNEY.

>> ORDINANCE 2020 -- 18 AND ORDINANCE OF THE CITY COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF FERDINAND THE BEACH FLORIDA, THE CODE TO ADD A REQUIREMENT FOR ROOFTOP MECHANICAL SCREENING IN THE DOWNTOWN HISTORIC DISTRICT, CRA AND OLDTOWN. TO DELETE SECTION 8.01.01.02 SUB H RELATING TO TOWERS IN OLD TO TOWN, TO MODIFY SECTION 8.010102 SUB J TO ALLOW KITCHENETTE AND ACCESSORY DWELLING UNITS WITHIN OLDTOWN AND DELETE SECTION 8.1.02 SUB E10 AS IT RELATES TO THE BONUS INCENTIVE WHICH WAS ELIMINATED IN 2018 AND DELETE AS IT RELATES TO THE NOW SUNSET INSIDE STREET BONUS PROGRAM TO CREATE A NEW SECTION 8.0103 SUB E RESERVE FOR DOWNTOWN WAYFINDING SIGNAGE TO MODIFY SECTION 8.03.03 SUB C2 SET AFTER-THE-FACT FEES BASED ON THE ANNUALLY ADOPTED MASTER FEE SCHEDULE TO CREATE SECTION 8.03.

[INAUDIBLE] INTEGRATED DELAY.

AND CLARIFY EMERGENCY DEMOLITION PROCEDURES AND MODIFY SECTION 8.0303 SUB A SUB ONE TO ESTABLISH AN OFFICIAL INVENTORY OF RESOURCES LIST THAT AND TO

[01:00:02]

>> OKAY CITY ATTORNEY WORKING TO MAKE A CHANGE HERE.

THIS IS NOW ITEM 8.3 AND WE WILL MAKE IT A POINT TO.

WE SKIPPED OVER A .2 WHICH WAS THE MEMBERSHIP SO WE'VE GONE

[Item 8.3]

>> I APOLOGIZE. >> OF NO OBJECTION I WILL READ THAT IN. THIS IS LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE FOR THE HISTORIC DISTRICT ORDINANCE AND THE CITY ATTORNEY HAS JUST READ THAT AND WE WILL OPEN THE BOAT FOR COMMENT. WE HAVE E-MAILS ON THIS ITEM.

>> NO, I DO NOT BELIEVE SO. >> CLOSE THE PUBLIC COMMENT AND THE COMMISSIONERS AND WENT DOWN, DO I HAVE A MOTION.

>> RECOMMEND APPROVAL. >> A MOTION TO SECOND.

>> COMMISSIONER YOU ARE RECOGNIZED.

>> I WAS JUST GOING TO SECOND THE MOTION.

THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU.

MADAME CLERK IF WE COULD CALL CALL THE VOTE.

>> COMMISSIONER CHAPMAN. >> YES.

>> COMMISSIONER ROSS. >> YES.

>> MAYOR MILLER. >> YES.

[Item 8.2]

>> ITEM 8.2 THIS IS LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE AND ADVISORY

BOARD MEMBERSHIP. >> I'M SORRY.

I WASN'T SURE IF I WAS MUTED. OKAY.

THIS IS ORDINANCE 2020 -- 17, AND ORDINANCE OF THE CITY COMMISSION, AMENDING THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE TO MODIFY SECTION 9.0 2.0 TWO MEMBERSHIP IN TERMS OF OFFICE FOR THE PLANNING ADVISORY BOARD PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY AND EFFECTIVE DATE. I HAVE A FEW COMMENTS AND CORRECTIONS FRANKLY, THERE IS A SIGNIFICANT MISTAKE, NOT ENOUGH, BECAUSE I THINK IT'S JUST A GENERAL PROPOSITION, THERE ARE ALTERNATE MEMBERS MENTIONED IN THE DRAFT ORDINANCE. THIS IS MY MISTAKE, I DO FINAL APPROVAL ON THESE THE ORDINANCE, I MISSED IT, BUT IT SHOULD NOT HAVE ANY REFERENCE WHATSOEVER TO ALTERNATE MEMBERS. THOSE REFERENCES SHOULD ALL BE STRICKEN FROM THE ORDINANCE AND WHAT THE PLANNING ADVISORY BOARD RECOMMENDED AND STAFF ALL ALSO RECOMMENDS IS THAT THERE BE SEVEN REGULAR MEMBERS AND NO ALTERNATE MEMBERS.

THEY WOULD HAVE STAGGERED TERMS OF THREE YEARS AS THEY DO NOW, NO COMMISSIONER NOMINATION FOR MEMBERSHIP ON THE PLANNING ADVISORY BOARD, THEY ARE OUT LARGE MEMBERS THAT CAN APPLY LIKE ANY OTHER BOARD, AND THEIR TERMS WOULD NOT RUN CONCURRENTLY WITH ANY CITY COMMISSION TERM SO REALLY WE USED TO HAVE SEVEN BEFORE THE COMMISSIONERS NOMINATED PLANNING BOARD MEMBERS WE HAD SEVEN REGULAR MEMBERS AND TWO ALTERNATES. SO WE ARE GOING BACK TO THAT MODEL BUT DELETING THE ALTERNATE SEATS.

ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT?

I APOLOGIZE FOR THAT MISTAKE. >> VICE MAYOR, YOUR HAND IS

UP, GO AHEAD. >> WELL, HAVING BEEN ON IT FOR SIX YEARS WITH SEVEN INTO I THINK GOING BACK TO SEVEN I WAS THE ONLY VOTE AGAINST GOING TO FIVE.

I LIKE THE ALTERNATES AND MY UNDERSTANDING IS THERE SAYING THEY REALLY DON'T NEED THEM, BUT WE DON'T KNOW WHAT'S CAN HAPPEN, WE DON'T KNOW WHERE PEOPLE ARE GOING TO GO, IT'S AN EXCELLENT OPPORTUNITY FOR COME IN AND GET EDUCATED BEFORE THEY'RE ACTUALLY GOING TO VOTE.

I'M GOOD WITH THE SEVEN BUT TO ME I THINK IT'S VALUABLE TO

HAVE THE TWO ALTERNATES. >> THANK YOU SIR.

>> I CAN ONLY SHARE WITH YOU WHAT THE BOARD MEMBERS DISCUSSED AND WHY THEY DECIDED NOT TO HAVE ALTERNATES.

WE HAVE HAD TWO ALTERNATES, AS YOU KNOW, AND ALL OF THOSE SEATS ARE FILLED SO WE HAVE FIVE REGULAR VOTING MEMBERS NOW THAT ARE NOMINATED AND APPOINTED BY THE COMMISSION AND TWO ALTERNATES, VICTORIA AND JENNY SCHAEFER, AND TO THEIR CREDIT THOSE LADIES AND ANYBODY ELSE WHO HAVE COME TO EVERY SINGLE MEETING AND PREPARE JUST AS MUCH AS ANY OTHER PLANNING BOARD MEMBER AND THE DISCUSSION WAS THAT IT'S NOT FAIR TO THEM TO BASICALLY, BECAUSE WE DO HAVE A FULL AND VIBRANT BOARD THAT THEY DON'T GET TO PARTICIPATE AT ALL. IT'S ULTIMATELY IN YOUR HANDS TO DECIDE RIGHT NOW WE HAVE FIVE MEMBERS AND IF YOU WOULD APPROVE SEVEN REGULAR MEMBERS WE COULD MAKE SURE THAT ALL SEVEN, IF YOU APPROVE, COULD THEN SERVE AND VOTE AND YOU WOULD TAKE APPLICATIONS FOR TWO ALTERNATE MEMBERS SO YOU TAKE CARE OF THE IMMEDIATE ISSUE, BUT ULTIMATELY THEY

[01:05:07]

DON'T TO VOTE. >> SO WE ARE OPENING AND CLOSING. ANYONE ELSE PUSH MARK.

>> JUST TO BE CLEAR, STAFF IS RECOMMENDING APPROVAL, IT DOESN'T TAKE AN MOTION TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL AND AT

SEVEN-MEMBER VOTING BOARD. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

MR. ROSS. >> SO I'M CLEAR WERE VOTING ON SEVEN MEMBERS AND NO ALTERNATES.

IS THAT CORRECT. >> FOR THE FIRST READING,

CORRECT. >> I MOVED TO APPROVE.

>> SECOND. >> I HAVE A MOTION AND A

SECOND. >> MADAME YOU CAN CALL THE

VOTE. >> COMMISSIONER ROSS.

>> YES. >> COMMISSIONER CHAPMAN.

>> YES. >> VICE MAYOR KRIEGER.

>> YES. >> MAYOR MILLER.

[Item 8.4]

>> YES THIS IS A FEE SCHEDULE FOR SANITATION, CITY ATTORNEY,

OR CITY MANAGER. >> I'LL TAKE IT TO ME THIS IS A CONTRACTUAL OBLIGATION, THE FEE SCHEDULE, THE CONTRACT WITH ADVANCED DISPOSAL CALLS FOR AN ANNUAL CPI, CONSUMER PRICE INCREASE EFFECTIVE JULY 1.

WE HAVE, BECAUSE OF MANY OF YOU ARE AWARE OF THE SERVICE CONCERNS RELATED TO ADVANCE DISPOSAL, I HAVE BEEN IN DISCUSSION ABOUT THIS FEE INCREASE WHICH AGAIN IS CONTRACTUALLY OBLIGATED ON BEHALF OF THE CITY.

ALL YOU ARE DOING WITH THIS ACTION TONIGHT IS ADJUSTING OUR FEE SCHEDULE. IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE AGREEMENT, THE FRANCHISE AGREEMENT WITH ADVANCED DISPOSAL. ALL THIS IS IS AN ADMINISTRATIVE EFFORT TO GET OUR FEE SCHEDULE TO REFLECT WHAT THE GARBAGE COLLECTION FEE WILL BE.

ADVANCED DISPOSAL IS VERY AWARE OF THE COMMUNITY'S DISAPPOINTMENT AND THE RECENT SERVANTS LEVELS AND I HOPE TO HAVE SOMETHING TO PROVIDE TO YOU.

THAT WILL ADDRESS THEIR CONCERNS WHEN THIS COMES BEFORE YOU FOR A SECOND READING, BUT ALL YOU WERE PROVING TONIGHT, ALL YOUR BEING ASKED TO CONSIDER TO APPROVE TONIGHT IS SIMPLY ADJUSTING THE CITIES FEE SCHEDULE TO REFLECT WHAT THE COST OF GARBAGE COLLECTION

WOULD BE. >> THANK YOU SIR.

>> VICE CHAIR. >> IN THE CONVERSATION YESTERDAY, I GUESS THIS IS IN THE CONTRACT SO IT'S REALLY NOT A NEGOTIABLE THING, IS THAT CORRECT.

>> I THINK WERE GOING TO TRY TO NEGOTIATE,.

>> IT IS HARDCODED INTO. >> RIGHT, SO MY CONCERN IS THAT LEVELS OF SERVICE HAS BEEN SUBSTANDARD, THE CITY HAS BEEN AUGMENTING THAT LEVEL AT TIMES AND HOPEFULLY YOU CAN NEGOTIATE THIS INCREASE DOES NOT HAPPEN OR WE BILL ADVANCE

APPROPRIATELY FOR OUR SERVICES. >> I WILL RECOMMEND APPROVAL

ON THE FIRST READING. >> THANK YOU SIR.

DO I HAVE A SECOND BEFORE WE CONTINUE THIS DISCUSSION.

>> MR. MAYOR. [INAUDIBLE]

>> CITY ATTORNEY GO AHEAD. >> SORRY ABOUT THAT, I DON'T MEAN TO INTERRUPT I NEED TO READ THE TITLE.

>> ORDINANCE 2020 -- 19 AND ORDINANCE OF THE CITY COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF FERDINAND BEACH FLORIDA ESTABLISHING AMENDING FEES FOR SANITATION FOR FISCAL YEAR 2019, 2020 PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY AND AN EFFECTIVE

DATE. >> I BELIEVE THE COMMISSIONER

WAS NEXT. >> THANK YOU MR. MAYOR.

I WILL ECHO THE VICE MAYOR'S SENTIMENTS, IF I VOTED FOR ANY INCREASE TOWARD THIS WHAT I WOULD CALL VERY SUBSTANDARD SERVICE I WOULD BE RUN OUT OF MY COMMUNITY.

THESE FOLKS LEAVE YARD WASTE IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD FOR WEEKS WHEN THEY FINALLY DO SHOW UP TO PICK IT UP THEY LEAVE ABOUT A THIRD OF IT SCATTERED ABOUT AND IT HAS TO BE REGATHERED INTO A NEW PILE SO WE CAN WAIT ANOTHER THREE OR FOUR WEEKS FOR THEM TO PICK THAT UP. TRASH CANS WHEN THEY RETURNED OR OVERTURNED IN THE MIDDLE-OF-THE-ROAD, THERE'S GARBAGE STILL, I'VE HAD TO PICK UP MY OWN AND MY NEIGHBORS, I'VE HAD NUMEROUS CONVERSATIONS WITH THE CITY

[01:10:03]

>> VICE MAYOR, YOU MADE THE MOTION, CORRECT.

>> YES. >> AND COMMISSIONER ROSS IS

THE SECOND PERIOD THANK YOU. >> MR. CHAPMAN, YOU ARE

RECOGNIZED. >> I HAVE TO AGREE WITH MY FELLOW COMMISSIONERS, IF YOU LOOK AT THE ORIGINAL THING IT WOULD ANECDOTALLY PROVIDE HIGH-QUALITY SOLID WASTE.

[INAUDIBLE] I HAVEN'T SEEN THAT SINCE DAY ONE OF THIS CONTRACT. MY YARD WASTE HAS SAT THERE FOR A MONTH. THEY HAVEN'T COME BACK AND SAID WE WILL GIVE YOUR REBATE BECAUSE WE DIDN'T PICK IT UP IN FOUR WEEKS. WE HAVE OUR CITY TRUCKS HELPING THEM OUT. THE BEST THING THEY DO IS GIVE YOU AN EXCUSE. WE HAD EQUIPMENT PROBLEMS OR VAN PROBLEMS, I BELIEVE ONE OF THE GENERALS THAT REPRESENT THAT COMPANY WAS A PROFESSIONAL FOOTBALL PLAYER AND AS SUCH I'M SURE THERE ARE COACHES AND HE SAID THERE'S NO EXCUSE FOR AN EXCUSE WE PAY THEM EVERY MONTH AND THEY DON'T DELIVER THE PRODUCT AS FAR AS I'M CONCERNED THERE'S NO WAY I CAN SUPPORT THIS. THANK YOU.

>> COMMISSIONER YOU ARE RECOGNIZED.

>> UNFORTUNATELY I THINK WERE CONFUSING APPLES AND ORANGES.

WE HAVE A CONTRACTUAL AGREEMENT WITH THEM AND WHETHER WE SUPPORT THEM OR NOT , IF THEY CAN EXERCISE THAT CONTRACTUAL AGREEMENT, ALL THAT SIMPLY DOES IS REFL CHANGING WHAT WE POST SO PEOPLE DON'T GET CONFUSED SO THERE'S NOT A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN WHAT THEY ARE CHARGING AND WHAT WE HAVE ON OUR FEE SCHEDULE.

THAT'S ALL THIS IS. WERE NOT AGREEING THAT THEY GIVE GOOD SERVICE, WERE JUST AGREEING WHAT THEY HAVE A CONTRACTUAL RIGHT TO DO AND PUT IT INTO OUR FEE SCHEDULE.

WHETHER WE DO IT OR NOT THEY CAN STILL CHARGE.

[INAUDIBLE] NUMBER TWO IF THERE IS A PROBLEM AND I'VE NOT EXPERIENCE WHAT YOU ARE EXPERIENCING BUT I WILL ASSUME IT'S CORRECT, THEN WE NEED TO GO BACK AND LOOK AT THE CONTRACT TO MAKE OUR DISPLEASURE KNOWN AND SO I WOULD PROPOSE THAT THE CITY MANAGER, PERHAPS WITHIN THE NEXT READING WHEN THIS COMES UP COME BACK WITH WHAT ARE OUR OPTIONS FOR FURTHER LOOKING INTO THIS BECAUSE IT SEEMS LIKE A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE DISSATISFIED WITH THEIR SERVICE THANK YOU.

CITY ATTORNEY, DO YOU HAVE SOMETHING.

>> MR. CHAPMAN YOU ARE RECOGNIZED.

>> I THINK ALL YOU HAVE TO DO IS ASK JERRY HOW MANY TIMES HE'S HAD TO DEAL WITH THIS COMPANY.

IT MAY BE OUR CONTRACTUAL RESPONSIBILITY BUT THEY HAVE CONTRACTUAL RESPONSIBILITY AS I JUST SAID PROVIDING HIGH QUALITY SOLID WASTE COLLECTION AND, IF THEY WANT TO DUKE IT OUT WITH US I SAY FINE BECAUSE WE'VE GIVEN THEM AN AWFUL LOT OF MONEY FOR NO SERVICE BECAUSE THEY HAVE NOT MET THEIR OBLIGATIONS FOR WEEK GLEE YARD WASTE COLLECTION.

THERE IS NO WAY I'M GOING TO SPORT THIS THING.

THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU.

COMMISSIONER ROSS. >> NO.

I'M DONE. THANK YOU.

>> AND EMOTION TO SECOND ON THIS?

>> VICE MAYOR KRIEGER. >> YES.

>> MR. ROSS. >> YES.

>> COMMISSIONER CHAPMAN. >> NO.

>> COMMISSIONER. >> NO.

>> MAYOR MILLER. >> YES, THIS IS THE SECOND

[Item 9.1]

CITY MANAGER. >> CITY ATTORNEY MET ALL RIGHT. THIS IS ORDINANCE 2020 -- 12 AND ORDINANCE OF THE COMMISSION OF CITY OF FERDINAND BEACH FLORIDA AMENDING 22 -- 30 AMENDMENT TO THE ELECTRICAL CODE TO ALLOW FOR THE CITY MANAGER TO DELEGATE WAIVER AUTHORITY AND PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.

I USUALLY SAVE PLEASE OPEN THE PUBLIC HEA HEARING WE DON'T HAVE ANY PUBLIC IN THE HEARING ROOM.

ARE THERE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT. >> THAT IS A NEGATIVE.

THERE IS NONE. >> THANK YOU.

[01:15:10]

>> MOVED TO APPROVE. >> SECOND.

>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. MADAME CLERK YOU MAY CALL THE

VOTE. >> COMMISSIONER ROSS.

>> YES. >> VICE MAYOR KRIEGER.

>> YES. >> COMMISSIONER CHAPMAN.

[Item 10.1]

>> YES >> MAYOR MILLER.

>> YES. >> ONTO SECTION TEN THIS IS CITY COMMISSION MEETING ITEM 10.1 THIS IS THE WATERFRONT DEVELOPMENT ITEM PLACING THE AGENDA.

[INAUDIBLE] I'M IN THE ESSENCE OF TIME I'M GOING TO FORGO MY DISCUSSION ON WATERFRONT DEVELOPMENT.

[Item 10.2]

THANK YOU. >> ITEM 10.2 THIS IS BEACHES THIS ITEM IS PLACED ON THE AGENDA AT REQUEST OF VICE MAYOR KRIEGER. YOU HAVE THE FLOOR.

>> THIS IS INTERESTING, THIS HAS TURNED INTO A BIGGER THING THAT I THOUGHT IT WOULD BE. ON THE SUPPORTING DOCUMENTS, THE FIRST DOCUMENT IS THE STATE STATUTE THAT PROHIBITS THE HARVESTING OF SEA OATS. I THINK IT WAS EARLY THIS YEAR A CITIZEN WAS OUT DIGGING UP NEXT TO ACCESS SEVEN NORTH CREATING A PATH. ANOTHER CITIZEN CALLED AND HE WAS STUCK APPROPRIATELY. IT'S A VIOLATION OF THE STATE CODE. PARKS AND PUT UP SAND FENCES.

THIS IS NOT ONE OF THE NEW WALKOVER'S WHICH ARE ALSO INVOLVED, OR AN ISSUE. ANOTHER CITY DEPARTMENT CAME AND RIPPED THE FENCES DOWN AND REMOVE THEM AND THREW THEM IN THE TRASHCAN ALONG WITH THE FENCE.

YOU HAVE ALL SEEN THE E-MAIL CHAIN, TO ME IT'S VERY DISTURBING THAT THAT WOULD HAPPEN.

I'VE HAD A LONG TALK WITH CITY MANAGER YESTERDAY, EXPRESSING MY CONCERNS AND IT DOES TURN OUT THAT LATE THIS AFTERNOON I DID HEAR THAT THEY HAD BEEN CALLED AND WAS OUT HERE AND SENT SOMETHING TO TALLAHASSEE.

I'M NOT SURE WHAT. WE WILL SEE.

THE SECOND ITEM IS A QUITE A LONG PLAN, IT'S THE FLORIDA STRATEGIC POLICY PLAN FOR FLORIDA OCEAN AND IF YOU WILL REMEMBER, I FORGOT WHEN, BUT I BROUGHT THIS TO THE COMMISSION THAT THEY WERE PLANNING AND THIS ORGANIZATION HAS A $500,000 GRANT TO DEVELOP THIS PLAN.

I'VE GIVEN A DRAFT, THE DRAFT IS INTERESTING BECAUSE WHEN YOU GET TIME AND IT'S FORWARDED TO STAFF, IT ACTUALLY DEALS WITH RESILIENCY , SEA LEVEL RISE AND ALL THOSE DIFFERENT THINGS ACCUMULATE IN FUNDING AVAILABLE.

WE DON'T KNOW WHAT'S GOING HAPPEN WITH THE STATE BUDGET AND HOW THAT WILL TURN OUT BUT THIS WILL HAVE SOME EFFECT.

AN INTERESTING POINT IN THIS PLAN THIS PLAN ON PAGE 18 WHEN YOU WANT TO LOOK AT IT, IT INDICATES THAT THEY ANTICIPATE SEA LEVEL RISE WILL RISE 6212 INCHES BY 2020.

WHILE THAT'S NOT GOING TO HAPPEN HERE BUT WE MAY SEE SOME REQUIREMENTS AND NOT ULTIMATELY WILL AFFECT US AS WE MOVE ON WITH OUR SHORELINE STABILIZATION.

THERE ARE TOTALS OF UP TO 14234 INCHES BY 2060 ACTUALLY ARE STANDARDS THAT WE SET. THE NEXT ITEM I HAVE IS THE GUIDELINE FOR DUNES MANAGEMENT AND DUNES CONSTRUCTION.

IT'S A SIMPLE THREE-PAGE THING.

THIS IS WHAT WE BEEN DOING, THIS IS WHAT THE FOUR WALKOVER'S WE DID WERE INTENDED TO DO WHICH WERE GARNERED BY PROFESSIONAL ENGINEERS, FUNDED ONE OF THEM TOTALLY BY THE STATE AND THREE OF THEM BY 50% FUNDING.

THE NEXT ITEM IS THE U.S. CORPS OF ENGINEERS SUPPLEMENTAL DRAFT WHICH AGAIN WAS PRESENTED TO US AND DEALS WITH SPECIFICALLY PHASES 11 THROUGH 16 DEALS WITH ELIMINATING THE GAS IN THE DUNES, AND ULTIMATELY THIS WAS FORWARDED TO WASHINGTON D.C. IN OCTOBER 19 FOR APPROVAL, AND WHAT WILL HAPPEN IS DUNES RESTORATION WILL BE

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THEY HAVE A BUNCH OF THINGS WHICH WILL BRING UP SOME GOOD IDEAS, AND WITHSTAND THE CITY MANAGER, I WILL HAVE A DISCUSSION WITH HIM, PROBABLY NOTHING'S GOING TO HAPPEN AS WE ARE INTERNAL SEASON UNTIL THE 31ST OF OCTOBER.

WE WILL LET THEM ADDRESS THAT, BUT I WAS DISAPPOINTED BECAUSE THERE WAS SOMETHING SENT OUT INDICATING, AND IT WASN'T SENT OUT BY ANY OF THE CITY STAFF OR THE COMMISSION, INDICATING HOW WE HAD DONE THOSE WALKOVER'S IN THE DARK.

WE TALKED ABOUT THIS FOR TWO AND HALF, IT'S LEGISLATIVE MONEY FOR A YEAR END A HALF CONSTANTLY, THEN THE ISSUE CAME UP OF CHAIN-LINK FENCE AND I DID MAKE A COMMENT IN AN E-MAIL THAT THAT WAS NEVER RECOMMENDED AND IT ISN'T RECOMMENDED AND ALL THOSE OTHER THINGS TURN OUT.

TURNS OUT E-MAIL IS ALMOST AS BAD AS SOCIAL MEDIA BUT I THINK WE CAN RESOLVE THIS ISSUE BUT THE SERIOUS POINT IS AND I BROUGHT THIS UP, I THINK PROBABLY I SAID FOR YESTERDAY AND DALE SAID A LOT MORE. WE HAVE ANOTHER $500,000 REQUEST IN THE BUDGET TO ELIMINATE THE REMAINING WALK-THROUGHS AND WE HAVE THE SOUTH END THAT WE STILL HAVEN'T RESOLVED MADE A DECI DECISION, DO WE WANT TO PAY THE $5 MILLION. [INAUDIBLE] I THINK WE CAN MOVE FORWARD AND COME UP WITH SOME CONCLUSIONS OR SOME DECISIONS THAT WILL RESOLVE THE CONCERNS AND PROBABLY THE REMAINDER OF THIS YEAR UP TILL NEXT YEAR WILL JUST LEAVE IT LIKE IT IS.

I THOUGHT THAT'S WHAT WE WERE GOING TO DO AND THAT'S IT.

>> THANK YOU SIR. COMMISSIONER YOU ARE

RECOGNIZED. >> THANK YOU MAYOR.

>> I AM GOING TO READ A FEW THINGS FROM THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN BECAUSE SUPPOSEDLY IT'S OUR CONSTITUTION WHAT WERE SUPPOSED TO BE FOLLOWING. IT SAYS THAT THE CITY SHALL ESTABLISH A DUNE MANAGEMENT PROGRAM BY 2013, SEVEN YEARS AGO, INCLUDING DEVELOPING AND IMPLEMENT STANDARDS FOR DOOM PROTECTION AND PUBLIC-PRIVATE CROSSOVERS AND FOR DUNES STABILIZATION AND RESTORATION. IN POLICY 5.0205 IT SAYS THAT THE CITY SHALL IDENTIFY ALL DECISIONS COME UP PUBLIC AT THIS POINT INCLUDNG THOSE WITH NO BOARDWALKS, CROSSOVERS OR OTHER PROTECTIVE MECHANISMS AND ESTABLISH A SCHEDULE AND PROCEDURE FOR IMPROVING ANY DEFICIENCIES.

THIS HAS NOT BEEN DONE. ONE OF THE REASONS I BELIEVE THIS HASN'T BEEN DONE, AND NOT THE ONLY REASON, BUT ONE OF THEM IS THAT WE REALLY HAVE NOBODY ON THE CITY STAFF WHO HAS THE EXPERTISE AND ABILITY TO PUT TOGETHER SUCH A PLAN.

AT THE LAST MEETING, I THINK ON THE DAY FOR MAYBE THE DAY BEFORE I RECEIVED AN E-MAIL FROM A CONSTITUENT THAT I BELIEVE WE ALL RECEIVED AND IT SAID THAT THEY WOULD LIKE TO MEET WITH ANYBODY FROM THE CITY.

I ARRANGED, I CALL THAT, I SENT AN E-MAIL AND SUBSEQUENTLY CALLED THEM AND ARRANGE TO MEET THE NEXT DAY, I THOUGHT WITH ONE PERSON ON THEIR DRIVEWAY AND IT TURNED OUT THERE WERE MORE THAN 20 LOCAL RESIDENTS THERE.

WE SORT OF HAD A LITTLE TOWN MEETING OUTSIDE WAS SOCIAL DISTANCING AND THEY WERE CONCERNED THAT THEY COULD NOT TAKE THEIR CAR FROM THEIR FISHING GEAR, THE SURFBOARD OVER THE NEW. [INAUDIBLE] THAT HAVE BEEN INSTALLED THAT THEY WERE UNUSABLE BY THEM FOR MANY REASONS. NUMBER TWO THEY WERE CONCERNED THAT THEIR SMALL CHILDREN AND OLDER PEOPLE COULD NOT WALK UP THE STEEP STEPS. AS YOU KNOW IN ONE OF THESE PREVIOUS MEETINGS I RECOMMENDED THAT WE PUT RAMPS IN THERE, THAT TURNED OUT NOT TO BE WITH THE CITY COMMISSION DECIDED TO DO. I BELIEVE THEIR CONCERNS ARE LEGITIMATE CONCERNS. THEY ALSO AGREED THAT THE AREA WHERE HOUSES ARE IS IN THE HUNDRED YEAR FLOODPLAIN AND THEIR PRESERVING AND GROWING THE DUNE SYSTEM IS ESSENTIAL FOR THE THE OWN PROTECTION OF THE PROPERTY AND THEY BELIEVE

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SINCE THAT TIME I BELIEVE MYSELF AND MANY OF YOU HAVE RECEIVED E-MAILS SUPPORTING THOSE IDEAS AND MADE OTHER SUGGESTIONS. I BELIEVE WE CAN ALL AGREE, CITIZENS AND THE COMMISSION AND STAFF THAT THE DUNE SYSTEM HELPS PROTECT THE AREA FROM FLOODING AND THAT IT'S DESIRABLE TO PROTECT AND PRESERVE AND GROW THAT DUNE SYSTEM. WE CAN ALSO AGREE THAT CONVENIENCE, USABLE ACCESS THAT ACCOMMODATES BEACH PARKS AND OTHER SENSORY'S TO BE TRANSPORTED TO THE BEACH IS ALSO ESSENTIAL FOR OUR CITIZENS.

I THINK THE TIME HAS COME THAT WE NEED TO DEVELOP A PLAN TO PRESERVE AND GROW THE DUNES TO PROVIDE FLOODING PROTECTION AND WILDLIFE HABITAT WHILE INCORPORATING IN THAT PLAN BEACH ACCESS THAT ACCOMMODATES THE NEEDS OF THE COMMUNITY AND ALLOWS EASY ACCESS FOR BEACH ACCESSORIES.

WE ALSO NEED TO INCORPORATE THAT STRATEGY TO PROCURE FUNDING FOR CONSTRUCTION AND MAINTENANCE, IN PARTICULAR MAINTENANCE TO THAT SYSTEM. I DON'T BELIEVE THAT THE CITY HAS ANY EMPLOYEES THAT HAVE THE EXPERTISE TO DEVELOP SUCH A PLAN SO WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO SUGGEST IS THAT WE AUTHORIZE THE CITY MANAGER TO MAKE A RECOMMENDATION AT THE NEXT MEETING AS TO A PLAN IS HOW WE COULD DEVELOP AND IMPLEMENT SUCH A PLAN AND IN THE MEANTIME LEAVE THINGS AS THEY ARE. THANK YOU.

>> COMMISSIONER YOU ARE RECOGNIZED.

>> THANK YOU. BECAUSE OF THE WAY THAT WE DO THESE DISCUSSIONS, WE TALK ABOUT THE BEACH, THE ISSUES THAT CAME TO MIND AND NEED TO BE DISCUSSED ARE OF COURSE WHAT WERE TALKING ABOUT NOW THAT COMMISSIONER ROSS IS REFERENCING THE WALKOVER'S IN THE CHAIN-LINK FENCE, I RECEIVED A TOTAL OF 13 E-MAILS ON THIS SUBJECT AND I'M GOING TO READ TO, ONE DEALS WITH THE CHAIN-LINK FENCE, ONE DEALS WITH THE WALKOVER AND SO THE CHAIN-LINK FENCE, THIS IS FROM BILL AND KATHY DUKE, 339 OCEAN AVENUE AND IT SAYS THE FOLLOWING, I AM WRITING TO PROVIDE YOU MY OPINION ON THE RECENT DISCUSSIONS ON THE CONTENT OF A CHAIN-LINK FENCE ALONG OCEAN AVENUE. IT WOULD SEEM TO ME THAT THERE MUST BE A BETTER SOLUTION THAN CONSTRUCTION AN UGLY CHAIN-LINK FENCE WHICH WILL RUST WITHIN TWO YEARS UNLESS IT IS CONSTRUCTED OF STAINLESS STEEL.

WHAT WILL THAT COST? I WOULD ASK THAT YOU CONSIDER EXPLORING WHAT IS AND HAS BEEN WORKING FOR A LONG TIME, WALKOVER'S SIMPLY MADE OF NATURAL SAND, DEVELOPED BY YEARS OF FOLKS WALKING ACROSS A DESIGNATED CUT IN THE DUNE WHICH ALLOWS PEOPLE EASY ACCESS TO THE BEACH.

IS IT DAMAGING TO THE DUNES? PERHAPS BUT IT HAS WORKED FOR 20 SOME ODD YEARS. IS IT A POSSIBLE PROBLEM AREA WINDSTORMS LOOM, YES, BUT A SIMPLE EDITION OF SAND FROM THE TIME OF THE STORM REBUILDS THE ERODED WALKOVER AND PROVIDES THE NEEDED BARRIER. THIS HAS BEEN A PRACTICE FOR YEARS. I RESPECTIVELY ASK THAT YOU FIND A FUNCTIONAL SOLUTION FOR BEACH ACCESS.

PLEASE DELETE THE IDEA OF CHAIN-LINK FENCE.

BILL AND KATHY DUKE. NOW TO THE WALKOVER E-MAIL.

THIS IS FROM TOM JACKSON, 2795 VW FOURTH STREET, I AM WRITING THIS TODAY TO EXPRESS MY CONCERNS FOR LOSS OF ACCESS TO OUR BEACH WHICH WE HAVE ENJOYED HERE FOREVER.

I WAS SURPRISED HOW MANY DIFFERENT GROUPS THIS IMPACTED AND TO THE COMMISSIONERS POINT WITH THIS MEETING, MR. JACKSON TYPE THE FOLLOWING. FISHERMEN CAN'T GET FISHING.

CARDS UP THE STEP. PARENTS OF CHILDREN CAN'T GET THEIR WAGONS WITH ALL THEIR CHAIRS, TENTS, TOYS UP THE STEPS. SURFERS HAVE TO CARRY SURFBOARDS UP THE STEPS. PADDLE BORDERS CAN'T CARRY PADDLE BOARDS UP THE STEPS. KAYAKS CAN'T GET THEM UP THE STEPS. PEOPLE WITH DISABILITIES DEFINITELY NOT ADA COMPLIANT. I'M SURE THE LIST IS LONGER BUT I HOPE YOU SEE THE POINT. THIS IS IMPACTING EVERYONE ON

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THANK YOU, TOM JACKSON. THOSE ARE JUST TWO OF THOSE 13 E-MAILS. TO THE COMMISSIONERS POINT, NONE OF THE TALKING MATERIALS THAT HE INCLUDED WERE THE SCHEMATICS FOR RAMP WALKOVER AND IF YOU LOOK AT THE DIMENSIONS TO ADD THE RAMP EXTENSION AND WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE DUNE LINE, THE ONLY WAY THAT RAMPS CAN BE BUILT ON THOSE WALKOVER'S IS ALONG OCEAN AVENUE.

SO, THE WIDTH OF THE RAMP ITSELF IS 6 FEET AND YOU PROBABLY NEED AT LEAST ANOTHER 3 FEET ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE RAMP TO HAVE ROOM FOR CALLERS AND BICYCLES ET CETERA. THAT'S 9 FEET ON OCEAN AVENUE AND I'M NOT SAYING WE CAN'T DO THAT, AS THE COMMISSIONER JOINTLY POINTED OUT WE NEED AN EXPERT TO TELL US HOW TO DO IT AND ALSO HOW TO MANAGE THE TRAFFIC FELL WILL COME ALONG OCEAN AVENUE SO HOW DO WE BUILD A RAMP AND MANAGE THE TRAFFIC AND WHAT DO WE DO WITH THE UNUSED 9 FEET BETWEEN EACH OF THE WALKOVER'S? I WENT OUT THERE TODAY AND USED MY LASER THAT YOU USING GOLF TO MEASURE DISTANCE, AND THE AVERAGE DISTANCE BETWEEN THE WALKOVER'S IS ANYWHERE BETWEEN 130 OR 1 150 YARDS. YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE ABOUT 100 YARDS OF THAT 9-FOOT AREA, COURT OR UNUSED BETWEEN EACH OF THE WALKOVER'S SO HOW DO WE UTILIZE THAT AREA? THE COMMISSIONER IS CORRECT, HOW DO WE PLAN FOR THAT? WE NEED SOME EXPERTISE. THERE ARE TWO OTHER ITEMS ON THIS BEACH SUBJECTS. I WILL ASK YOU THAT YOU COME BACK SO THAT YOU CAN TALK ABOUT THE TWO LIFEGUARD TOWERS AND WE CAN ALSO TALK ABOUT NON- BEACH PARKING AT SEASIDE IN PREPARATION FOR MEMORIAL DAY, CROWD DISPERSION, ALCOHOL ON THE BEACHES FOR THE MAIN BEACH AND SEASIDE SO THAT WE CAN DISCUSS THOSE TWO TOPICS. SO, HOPEFULLY.

[INAUDIBLE] >> COMMISSIONER YOU ARE

RECOGNIZED. >> SAME THING.

>> IF YOU LOOK AT THE COMMISSIONERS SUBMISSION, HE HAS ONE THAT TALKS ABOUT BUILDING BACK THE SAND DUNES, AND WHEN I LOOK AT THAT, ON THE SECOND PAGE WAS A VERY INTERESTING PAGE BECAUSE IT LISTED THE ADVANTAGES OF HAVING DUNES AND AS I READ THE PAGE I SAID G, THIS SOUNDS A LOT LIKE PEOPLE WHO HAD BEEN TELLING US OVER AND OVER AGAIN ABOUT TREES SO I HAVE TO WONDER WHERE IS THE OUTCRY OVER PEOPLE DESTROYING THE DUNES THAT WE HAVE ONE PEOPLE TAKE A TREE DOWN. I'M NOT SURE I UNDERSTAND THAT. IF THE ENVIRONMENT IS THERE TO PROTECT US, IT SHOULD ALL BE PROTECTED.

IF YOU GO ONLINE AND LOOK UP WHOLE MASSACHUSETTS BLIZZARD OF 78, THAT'S MY HOMETOWN AT THE TIME I WAS LIVING TO TOWNS OVER BUT MY MOM WAS THERE. THE OCEAN IN THE PAYMENT.

MY BEST FRIEND SAID BEFORE HE KNEW WHAT WAS HAPPENING THE OCEAN WAS IN HIS YARD AND HE SCRAMBLED UP TO THE ATTIC, PEEKED OUT THE WINDOW AND WATCHED HIS BOAT FLOAT OVER HIS CAR. WHAT IF FOR SOME REASON WE CAN'T FILL THOSE GAPS IN? YOU CAN TALK ABOUT THE ECONOMIC STABILITY OF THE ISLAND, YOU DESTROY A LOT OF THAT AREA WITH THE ECONOMIC STABILITY.

I BELIEVE EVERYBODY WHO IS CONCERNED ABOUT THE ENVIRONMENT ON THIS ISLAND SHOULD BE OUT SUPPORTING THESE DUNES. I WAS ON THE WALKOVER'S TODAY AND I NOTICED A VERY INTERESTING THING, IF YOU

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THERE'S AN AWFUL LOT OF HOUSES IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD, YOU HAVE TO GO UP A FLIGHT OF STAIRS TO GET INTO THOSE HOMES.

I GUESS THE QUESTION IS HOW DO YOU MAKE UP THE STAIRS OF YOUR HOME BUT YOU CAN'T MAKE IT UP THE STEPS OF THE BEACH ACCESS. YES YOU MAY HAVE MORE STUFF BUT AS I WATCH LADIES DO TODAY THEY MAKE TRIPS UP THE STAIRS. FIRST THEY BROUGHT THEIR KIDS UP AND THEN THEY BROUGHT THEIR WAGONS UP AND THESE WERE TWO YOUNG LADIES SO I THINK WE ARE MAKING, WERE NOT LOOKING AT THE IMPORTANCE AS WE BEEN TOLD MANY, MANY TIMES THE QUESTION IS NOT IF IT WILL BUT WHEN. IF WE TAKE PART OF OUR PROTECTION AWAY THAT PART BECOMES VULNERABLE.

I THINK IT'S OUR DUTY, OUR RESPONSIBILITY TO PROTECT ALL OF THIS ISLAND WITH WHATEVER MEANS ARE FEASIBLE.

THANK YOU. >> VICE MAYOR, YOU ARE

RECOGNIZED. >> I'LL BE BRIEF.

I THINK WERE ALL IN THE SAME BASE.

I THINK THE CITY MANAGER WILL GO OUT AND LOOK AND WE NEED THAT BECAUSE YOU REMEMBER LAST APRIL WE WOUND UP CLOSING THAT AND WE ARE RE- INSPECTING THEM NOW.

I WILL COMMENT THAT THERE WAS NEVER ANY PROPOSAL TO BUILD THE FENCE. THAT WAS A RESPONSE TO BREAKING THE LAW, AND I DON'T WANT TO OVERLOOK THE FACT THAT HE VIOLATED THE STATE STATUTE INTENTIONALLY AND THE ONLY OTHER THING OUTSTANDING, IT'S INTERESTING THAT THE ONE LETTER THAT MIKE READ, FOUR NORTH AND SIX NORTH OUR WALK-THROUGHS. TWELVE NORTH IS NORTH BEACH PARK. THE OTHER IS A WALK-THROUGH.

MAIN BEACHES ADA RAMP. WHEN WE GET TO THE SOUTH END, NONE OF THOSE 16 WALKOVER'S RANGE FROM 300 TO 600 FEET, WORKING HAVE TO LOOK SERIOUS AND THAT'S FINE WILL DO THAT.

SO NOW WE CAN MOVE ON TO WHAT MIKE WANTS TO TALK ABOUT.

I WANT TO TALK ABOUT THAT TOO BUT I'LL LET HIM START.

>> LET'S GO AHEAD AND TAKE A FIVE MINUTE OKAY WE ARE BACK IN SESSION. THE CITY COMMISSION REGULAR MEETING AND I BELIEVE YOU HAD SOMETHING ON ITEM 10.2 BEACHES. YOU HAVE THE FLOOR SIR.

>> THANK YOU MR. MAYOR. SO TWO THINGS, ACTUALLY THREE, LIFEGUARD TOWERS, BEACH PARKING, PARKING AT THE MAIN BEACH, CROWDS AND TRASH IN THOSE AREAS.

I MUST START WITH LIFEGUARD TOWERS, I'M NOT GONNA SPEND A LOT OF TIME ON THIS, THIS WAS ORIGINALLY, WE WERE INFORMED OF THIS BY VICE MAYOR KRIEGER AND I'M TRYING TO REMEMBER HOW LONG AGO THAT WAS BUT IT SEEMS TO ME THAT IT'S BEEN FIVE MONTHS AGO THAT YOU INFORMED US OF THE PURCHASE.

ANYWAY, I'M GOING TO REDO THE INITIAL E-MAIL THAT I RECEIVED FROM JACKIE STEVENSON REGARDING THE LIFEGUARD TOWERS. IS IT TRUE THAT CITY HAS AUTHORIZED. [INAUDIBLE] IF SO WHERE IN THE BUDGET IS DISLOCATED AND HOW MUCH IS THE COST. I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO KNOW WHERE ON THE AGENDA THIS IS MENTIONED.

I WOULD LIKE TO REQUEST THAT MOVING FORWARD, WHEN CITY COMMISSIONERS ADD SOMETHING TO THE AGENDA IT IS MORE DETAILED INSTEAD OF BEACH OR MARINA. WE WOULD LIKE TO SEE MORE DETAIL AS TO WHAT THEY ARE ADDING TO THE AGENDA IN ORDER TO STAY INFORMED AND AWARE OF WHAT'S GOING ON.

IF THE CITY COMMISSIONERS WANT US TO BELIEVE THEY HAVE OUR BEST INTEREST AT HEART AND THAT THEY ARE TRYING TO BUILD THE BRIDGE TO ACTUALLY LISTEN AND HEAR OUR CITIZENS WE NEED MORE DETAIL AND MOST IMPORTANTLY TIME IN ORDER TO PREPARE OUR REBUTTALS AND T TRY.

[INAUDIBLE] RESPECTFULLY JACKIE STEVENSON. AND THEN THERE WAS A BACK-AND-FORTH BETWEEN HER AND CITY MANAGER PROVIDING DETAILS ON THE LIFEGUARD TOWERS, SUBSEQUENTLY I MET WITH THE

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THE TOWERS ARE EASILY MOVABLE BY A FOUR-WHEEL-DRIVE VEHICLE SO THEY CAN MOVE CLOSER TO THE SHORE, FURTHER AWAY FROM THE SHORE, RIGHT OR LEFT, THEY ARE THE SAME HEIGHT AS THE CURRENT LIFEGUARD CHAIRS BUT THE GREAT ADVANTAGE TO THE TOWERS IS THEY HAVE A WRAPAROUND PORCH IN WHICH THE LIFEGUARDS STANDING ON THE PORCH CAN HAVE A FULL VIEW OF THE ENTIRE BEACH NOT MERELY JUST TURNING THEIR HEAD, THEY CAN WALK THAT ENTIRE DISTANCE AND SURVEYED THE BEACH AREA, ALSO THE TOWERS PROVIDE THEM VERY GOOD SHELTER DURING A BRIEF STORM AND THEY CAN ALSO HAVE MORE EQUIPMENT INSIDE THE TOWER THAN THEY WOULD AFTER LIFEGUARD STATIONS.

SO, THE MONEY CAME FROM THE INTERNAL FIRE DEPARTMENT BUDGET. THE CHIEF EXPLAINED THE NEED TO SPEND MONEY ON SOME ITEMS AND MOVE SOME MONEY AROUND A TOTAL ALL IN COST IS LESS THAN $10000 WHICH DOES NOT REQUIRE ANY CITY COMMISSION ACTION AND I BELIEVE IN MY CONVERSATION WITH THE CITY MANAGER HE HE SAID NO CITY MANAGER ACTION.

THE OTHER POINT I WOULD MAKE IS FOR E-MAIL, AND I AM INDEED GUILTY OF THIS, WHAT THE ACUTELY HEELS OF OUR AGENDA IS ON COMMISSIONER DISCUSSION WHEN WE SUBMIT OUR MATERIALS ON FRIDAY, THE FRIDAY BEFORE THE MEETING, AND IT'S NOT CLEAR, AT LEAST IN MY MIND IF THE MATERIALS ARE GOING TO BE USED, IF THEY'RE NOT GOING TO BE USED, WHY THEY ARE THERE, AND THE COMMISSIONER I'M JUST CAN USE YOU AS AN EXAMPLE, PLEASE DON'T FEEL I'M PICKING ON YOU, BUT I'M JUST GOING TO REFERENCE YOUR MATERIALS SO COMMISSIONER ROSS PROVIDED THE DIMENSIONS AND SCHEMATIC WHICH I REFERENCED, BUT I DIDN'T KNOW WHETHER HE WAS ACTUALLY GOING TO USE THAT NUMBER REFER TO IT, SO I READ IT, THERE WAS ALSO A SEA OATS PROPOSAL AND SO I READ THAT AND WE DIDN'T EVEN TALK ABOUT THAT.

SCHOOL ANY OF THE EXCEL SHEETS AND MATERIALS, I DON'T KNOW WHETHER THAT BE REFERENCED, BUT THE FINER POINT IS THAT THOSE MATERIALS ARE NOT AVAILABLE TO THE PUBLIC.

THEY ARE POSTMEETING. THEY AREN'T PRIOR.

SO, IF A PROCESS QUESTION ON HOW DO WE DO THAT AND HOW ARE WE TRANSPARENT SO THEY KNOW WHAT WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT. THAT'S THE END OF MY CONVERSATION ON LIFEGUARD TOWERS.

ON BEACH PARKING. >> CAN I INTERRUPT TO RESPOND

TO THAT. >> ONLY COMMISSIONER ROSS AND MAYOR MILLER IF I DO NOT LOSE MY TIME AND HAVE TO RE- RAISE MY HAND. BECAUSE LAST TIME THIS HAPPENED THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT HAPPENED SO I WILL NOT YIELD

UNLESS THAT'S ACKNOWLEDGED. >> I'M CONFUSED.

THERE'S NO TIME LIMIT. YOU HAVE ALL THE TIME IN THE

WORLD. >> LAST TIME COMMISSIONER ROSS AND I ENGAGED I LOST MY PLACE BECAUSE HE SPOKE AND THEN YOU SAID I HAD TO RERAISE MY HAND.

>> IF I RECALL CORRECTLY THE CONFUSION WISE AND THE WHOLE FACTOR. [INAUDIBLE] THAT THERE WAS A REFERENCE YOU MADE AN INTERRUPTION AND THEN

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ARE RECOGNIZED. >> THANK YOU SO MUCH.

I WOULD JUST LIKE TO TALK ABOUT THE PROCESS OF COMMISSIONER DISCUSSION AND COMMISSIONER DISCUSSION IS BASICALLY THE ONLY TIME THAT THE FIVE COMMISSIONERS CAN TALK TO EACH OTHER ABOUT A SUBJECT AND THERE'S NO REAL ACTION ITEM, A LOT OF TIMES WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO TALK ABOUT CHANGES BEFORE THE MEETING SO I PUT DIFFERENT THINGS INTO THE PACKAGE THAT I THINK MIGHT BE RELEVANT, I THINK HER EDUCATIONAL IF YOU WANT TO READ HIM THAT'S FINE IF YOU DON'T WANT TO READ HIM THAT'S FINE, BUT IT'S THE ONLY TIME THAT WE CAN HAVE A DISCUSSION AND OFTEN TIMES THINGS HAPPEN THE DAY BEFORE THE MEETING AND SO WITHOUT PROLONGING I CAME UP WITH A BETTER IDEA I THOUGHT FOR THE LAST ITEM, INSTEAD OF GOING INTO ALL THE DETAIL AND SPENDING HOURS DOING THAT, LET'S COME UP WITH A PLAN FOR COMING UP WITH A PLAN AND SO I DIDN'T WANT TO GET INTO THE WEEDS. THOSE THINGS WERE DEFINITELY IN THE WEEDS BUT IF THEY'RE NOT IN THERE I CAN'T USE THEM AS A POINT OF DISCUSSION SO WHICH COMES FIRST, THE CHICKEN OR THE EGG. WHAT I DO THESE FOUR IS THE BEST TIME THAT WE CAN TALK AND HAVE A DISCUSSION IN HERE WITH THE OTHER PEOPLE HAVE TO SAY, IT'S MORE MEANT FOR THE CITY COMMISSIONERS AND THE PUBLIC IN A SENSE BECAUSE I HAVE NO IDEA WHAT A LOT OF YOU THINK ABOUT CERTAIN THINGS AND YOU MAY NOT KNOW WHAT I THINK ABOUT CERTAIN THINGS AND SO THAT'S WHY I WILL OFTEN PUT IN THINGS ON FRIDAY AFTERNOON THAT DON'T GET USED ON TUESDAY BECAUSE OF THE WEEKEND SOMETHING CHANGED, IT BECAME IRRELEVANT OR WE CAME UP WITH A BETTER IDEA SO I JUST THINK IT'S A PROCESS PROBLEM, AND I REALLY LIKE HAVING THESE DISCUSSIONS.

THIS IS SOMETHING THAT REALLY DIDN'T HAPPEN PRIOR TO THIS COMMISSION AND I THINK IT'S VERY HEALTHY FOR THE COMMUNITY, FOR US TO HAVE THESE DISCUSSIONS AND HEAR WHAT'S GOING ON AND PEOPLE SAID IN THE NOTES THAT YOU READ, WELL THERE'S NOTHING REALLY TO REBUT, IT'S JUST A CONVERSATION AND THERE IS NO ACTION THAT'S GOING TO BE TAKEN ON THESE THINGS EXCEPT WE CAN DIRECT AS WE DID TODAY THE PREVIOUS ITEM TO COME UP WITH A PLAN SO THAT'S JUST MY THOUGHTS ON THIS. SO THANK YOU.

>> MICHAEL HETZER. >> PINKY MR. MAYOR.

OKAY. THANK YOU MR. MAYOR.

OKAY, ON BEACH PARKING, SATURDAY I GUESS THERE WAS A LOT OF CONCERN WITH THE NUMBER OF CARS, NUMBER OF SUB CARS, HOW CROWDED THEY WERE ON THE BEACH PARKING AREA, THE AMOUNT OF PEOPLE IN THE AREA, I WOULD WAS MONITORING IT ON SOCIAL MEDIA, SOME FOLKS POSTED PHOTOS SO SUNDAY I DECIDED TO TO GO OUT THERE AND I SPENT TWO AND HALF HOURS WRITING WITH THE BEACH RANCHER AND SEEING FOR MYSELF, IT WAS AGAIN VERY, VERY BUSY WHAT I WITNESSED WERE, ON THE MOST PART VERY WELL BEHAVED FOLKS, THERE WERE LARGE GATHERINGS, NOT SOCIAL DISTANCING THAT WERE NOT FAMILIES IN WHICH WE APPROACHED AND ASKED THEM NICELY AND THEY COOPERATED AND DISTANCED, BUT THE BIGGER PROBLEM WAS ALCOHOL ON THE BEACH. WE DID ASK THREE OR FOUR GROUPS TO REMOVE THEIR ALCOHOL , WE DIDN'T CONFISCATE ANY, WE DIDN'T CITE ANYBODY, WE ISSUED THEM THE RULES, BUT WHAT IS PROBLEMATIC WHEN YOU HAVE A DENSELY PACKED BEACH LIK THAT IS THAT THE ACCESS, THE ABILITY TO BE ABLE TO REVIEW, IN OTHER WORDS YOU'RE IN THAT LITTLE POLARIS VEHICLE AND THERE'S A VERY LIMITED PATH THAT YOU CAN TAKE AND IT'S WESTWARD AWAY FROM THE SHORELINE SO YOU'RE NOT REALLY

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AND NOT THE TRASH CONTAINERS, IT WAS ON BEACH TRASH AND PEOPLE NOT PICKING THEIR STUFF UP, LETTING IT WANDER INTO THE SURF, VOLUNTEERS, SO LOOKING FORWARD TO THE MEMORIAL DAY WEEKEND, I THINK I'M LOOKING TO THIS BODY TO COME UP WITH SOME SOLUTIONS. THANK YOU.

>> FIRST THING, FIRST COMMENT, THOSE LIFEGUARD TOWERS WERE PURCHASED AT BASICALLY NO COST AND THEY SAVE LIVES.

THEY PUT O ARE LIFEGUARDS IN BETTER POSITION FOR SAVING LIVES ON THE BEACH. BEACH PARKING, RED CHIEF AND I FULLY CONCUR WITH WHAT HE SAID, I THINK WE SHOULD CHARGE $20 TO COME ONTO THAT BEACH, I ALSO THINK WE SHOULD SERIOUSLY CONSIDER ELIMINATING JUST LIKE THE COUNTY DID TO RESIDENTS ONLY, NOW BECAUSE OF THE EMERGENCY WE CAN DO THAT AND THAT WOULD ELIMINATE A LOT OF PROBLEMS. HE TALKED ABOUT PICTURES, BEFORE WE CLOSE THAT, JUST LIKE THE PICTURES AFTER WE CLOSE SADLER AND I THINK IT'S SORT OF, WE NEED TO TAKE CARE OF IT.

AS FAR AS THE ALCOHOL IF THEY'RE HIDING AT YOU DON'T KNOW THERE HAVE ANNETTE AND I DON'T THINK THEY'RE THE PROBLEM. I THINK IT'S PEOPLE THAT ARE OUT THERE PARTY AND THAT ARE THE PROBLEM IN THEIR WELL-RECOGNIZED AND IF BY CHARGING THEM WE CAN PUT POLICE ON THE BEACH THAN THAT'S WHAT WE NEED TO DO.

IT'S GOING TO GET CRAZY SOON TO MEMORIAL DAY IT'S GOING TO GET REALLY CRAZY. THANK YOU.

>> COMMISSIONER ROSSI WERE RECOGNIZED.

>> NUMBER ONE ON SATURDAY FOR THE LAST TWO SATURDAYS AND ON SUNDAY WE WENT UP TO THE BEACH, MY WIFE AND I AND MAIN BEACH WAS, THE PARKING LOT WAS COMPLETELY FULL, THERE WERE PEOPLE PARKED LOTS OF OTHER PLACES.

ON TARPON WHICH IS USUALLY ONE OR TWO CARS THE CARS WERE BACKED UP ALL THE WAY TO DALTON STREETS, THERE WERE ABOUT 40 CARS IN LINE TO GET ON ATLANTIC AVENUE, AND GOING DOWN OCEAN AVENUE, I DON'T REMEMBE THE EXACT NUMBERS BUT ON SATURDAY IT WAS ABOUT A HUNDRED 30 CARS AND ON SUNDAY IT WAS 156 CARS WERE PARKED THERE ALONG OCEAN AVENUE, AND OVER A THIRD, SIGNIFICANTLY OVER A THIRD OF THOSE CARS HAD OUT-OF-STATE PLATES AND WHEN YOU WENT TO THE PARKING LOT THERE WERE A LARGE PERCENTAGE OF THE LICENSE PLATES THAT ARE OUT-OF-STATE, PARTICULARLY GEORGIA.

I THINK THESE PEOPLE ARE COMING HERE WHAT I WOULD CALL DAYTRIPPERS AND IT IS WHAT IT IS, IF THIS IS GOING TO BE, AND ONE OTHER THING IS FORT CLINCH WAS CLOSED BECAUSE THEY RAN OUT OF PARKING SPACES BOTH ON SATURDAY AND SUNDAY.

I'VE BEEN HERE FOR TEN YEARS OR WHATEVER AND I'VE NEVER SEEN THAT HAPPEN EVEN ON THE FOURTH OF JULY.

SO IF THIS IS AN ABERRATION IT'S ONE THING.

IF THIS IS THE NEW NORMAL WERE GOING TO HAVE TO COME UP WITH

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AS FAR AS CHARGING THE $20, I REALLY AM OPPOSED TO CHARGING RESIDENTS FOR PARKING. WE HAVE PAID PARKING IN THE CITY ON THE BEACH AND THAT IS BECAUSE THE CITY RESIDENTS PAY FOR THE PARKING AND I THINK TO CHARGE THEM AGAIN IS INAPPROPRIATE. THIS COMING WEEKEND IT'S ALREADY TUESDAY, I THINK THE CHIEF IS DOING THINGS AND WHATEVER HE WANTS TO IMPLEMENT AS FAR AS CARS OR RESTRICTIONS OR WHATEVER I THINK THAT WOULD BE THE POLICY WE SHOULD FOLLOW. I'M NOT GOING TO SECOND-GUESS THE CHIEF. WILL LET HIM IN THE CITY MANAGER M WORKED OUT A POLICY FOR THE UPCOMING WEEKEND. THE TRASH CANS COME YOUR YOU'RE RIGHT WERE OVERWHELMED AND THOSE HUGE TRASH CANS WERE FULL. THEY WERE EMPTIED EVERY DAY SO I THINK, I TALKED TO THE CITY MANAGER AND ARMIDA GLEASON, I THINK THERE AND PUT OUT MORE TRASH CANS FOR THIS UPCOMING WEEKEND, BUT WERE OFTEN NOT THE NANNY STATE AND YOU CAN'T GET PEOPLE NOT TO THROW THEIR TRASH DOWN.

I WOULD NEVER LEAVE TRASH AND I DON'T UNDERSTAND HOW YOU GET PEOPLE, HOW YOU ENFORCE LITTERING.

PEOPLE SAY WE SHOULD FIND THEM WHILE YOU HAVE TO SEE THEM THROWING LITTER DOWN AND IT'S VERY DIFFICULT TO ENFORCE THAT SO, I THINK THERE ARE A LOT OF CHALLENGES COMING UP BUT I THINK FOR THIS COMING WEEKEND WE SHOULD LET THE CHIEF DO WHAT THE CHIEF NEEDS TO DO TO KEEP IT SAFE AND ORDERLY.

THANK YOU. >> COMMISSIONER CHAPMAN YOU

ARE RECOGNIZED. >> FIRST ABOUT THE LIFEGUARD TOWERS, IT'S ALWAYS INTERESTING ON SOCIAL MEDIA WHEN PEOPLE PUT OUT THEIR FACTS.

ONE E-MAIL SAYS WHERE WE PUTTING THREE OF THOSE TOWERS AND I SAID WE ONLY OWNED TWO SO HOW DID WE GET THREE.

PEOPLE DON'T UNDERSTAND THAT THE TRADITIONAL LIFEGUARD STAND IS A LIFEGUARDS OFFICE. THAT'S THE SAME DESIGN OF A LIFEGUARDS OFFICE THAT THEY USED ON THE BEACH WHEN I WAS A KID SO TO BE ABLE TO GET TO OF THE BAYWATCH STYLE ONES IS TREMENDOUS. IT'S ALSO A NICE WAY TO BE ABLE TO SAY YOU KNOW WHAT, WE APPRECIATE THE LIFEGUARDS, YOU RISK THEIR LIVES EVERY DAY TO PROTECT US AND THOSE ARE TWO LITTLE THINGS AS A WAY OF SAYING YOU ARE APPRECIATED.

AS FAR AS THE BEACH PARKING SITUATION, I FIND IT INTERESTING BECAUSE WHEN THIS WAS THE HOT TOPIC, I KIND OF REMEMBER PEOPLE SAYING WERE GOING TO TAKE CARE OF OURSELVES, WE TAKE CARE OF OURSELVES, IT'S NOT GONNA BE AN ISSUE, WELL APPARENTLY BACKUP FORGOT ABOUT, ONE BIG ISSUE IS ALCOHOL. I'M OF THE FIRM BELIEF YOU PUT A SIGN AT THE ENTRANCE, NO ALCOHOL ALLOWED AND ALL YOU HAVE TO DO IS NAIL A COUPLE PEOPLE DRIN DRINKING, REST THEM, FIND THEM, DO WHATEVER AND ON SOCIAL MEDIA THE WORD WILL GET OUT. SO I THINK LIMITING CARS, PARTICULARLY THIS WEEKEND WILL BE A VERY IMPORTANT THING.

I DO THINK ALL OF THE PEOPLE THAT ARE INVOLVED IN THAT SITUATION, TRYING TO KEEP IT UNDER CONTROL.

THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU.

COMMISSIONER, YOU ARE RECOGNIZED.

>> PINKY MR. MAYOR. I AM NOT GOING TO BELABOR THIS POINT BECAUSE I AGREE WITH MY FELLOW COMMISSIONERS THAT THE CITY MANAGER AND THE CHIEF OF POLICE AND THE FIRE CHIEF ARE THE BEST PERSONS TO MANAGE THIS, I JUST WANT TO MAKE THE FOLLOWING POINT THAT I DID DO A CAR INVENTORY WHILE I WAS THERE AND HALF THE CARS PARKED ON THE BEACH WERE OUT-OF-STATE. THE SECOND POINT WAS BECAUSE OF THE COUNTIES RULES ON PARKING AT PETER'S POINT, THAT DROVE PEOPLE TO OUR BEACHES BECAUSE THEY WERE NOT NASSAU COUNTY RESIDENTS SO WE HAVE AN INFLUX.

I WOULD LIKE TO SEE OR RECOMMEND TO THE AUTHORITIES IN THE CITY MANAGER THAT THE EXPERTS, THE POLICE CHIEF, FIRE CHIEF, THE CITY MANAGER DETERMINE WHAT IS THE SAFE

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THANK YOU. >> AND COMMISSIONER ROSS, YOU

ARE RECOGNIZED. >> I APOLOGIZE.

>> OKAY, JUST TO WRAP IT UP ON THAT ONE, IF SOMEONE IS DRINKING AT CENTRAL PARK AND YOU SEE IT AS A PROBLEM WHEN YOU CALL IT INCOME HE CALL THE POLICE AND YOU SAY THERE'S SOMEBODY DRINKING. IF YOU HAVE AN OPEN CONTAINER SITUATION YOU CALL IT IN. THAT'S WHAT LAW ENFORCEMENT DOES. THERE ARE SIGNS THAT SAY NO DRINKING, EVERYTHING YOU CAN YOU CAN'T DO ON THE BEACH AND IT'S AGAINST THE LAW SO IF SOMEBODY IS DOING SOMETHING ILLEGAL, YOU CALL IT IN. THAT SHOULD SOLVE IT.

>> THERE IS SOMETHING ELSE I WAS GONNA SAY I'LL LET THAT

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PLACED IN BY MR. ROSS. >> THANK YOU.

I JUST WANT TO GET A SHORT UPDATE, FOR THE NORTHERN PORTION THEY'VE ARRIVED, THE PILINGS WERE DELAYED BECAUSE THE CODING PUMP THEY HAD TO BE COATED WITH A SPECIAL COATING, THE PUMP BROKE, THE PERSON WHO COULD FIX THE PUMP WAS IN TEXAS AND WHERE THEY WERE CODED IS IN FLORIDA AND HE REFUSED TO GET ON AN AIRPLANE SO THEY HAD A GO BUY A NEW PUMP WHICH THEY HAVE NOW DONE.

THERE SHOULD BE TWO CRANE BARGES SHOWING UP ON FRIDAY, ONE WITH SUPPLIES AND ONE WITH FILINGS AND THEN HOPEFULLY WE CAN BEGUN DEMOLITION AND HOPEFULLY BY THE FUEL BY THE MIDDLE OR END OF JULY SHOULD BE FUNCTIONAL THANK YOU.

>> DALE COULD YOU GIVE US AN UPDATE ON THE STATUS FOR THE

MARINA AND WHERE WERE AT? >> SURE.

THERE WERE ACTUALLY A TOTAL OF FIVE QUALIFICATIONS OR PROPOSALS SUBMITTED FOR THE MARINA MANAGEMENT, I HAVE FORWARDED THOSE FIVE PROPOSALS TO THE FINANCIAL ADVISOR WHICH IF YOU REMEMBER LAST YEAR DID A DEEP FINANCIAL ANALYSIS OF THE GENERAL FUND, THE GOLF COURSE AND MARINA SEMI ANTICIPATION IS I HAVE ASKED THEM TO PROVIDE A FINANCIAL REVIEW OF THE FIVE PROPOSALS, I WILL GET THAT AND REVIEW THOSE AND TAKE RECOMMENDATION TO THE MARINA ADVISORY BOARD.

I HOPE TO GET THAT RECOMMENDATION IN FRONT OF THE BOARD BY THE JUNE MEETING WHICH IS AT THE END OF JUNE AND THEN BRING THEIR RECOMMENDATION TO YOU BY THE END OF JULY SO THAT WOULD BE WELL ON OUR WAY TOWARD KNOWING WHO WE WILL OPERATE THE MARINA WITH WELL IN ADVANCE OF THE

NEW FISCAL YEAR. >> THANK YOU.

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>> OKAY ITEM 10.4. OCEAN HIGHWAY IMPORT AUTHORITY. THIS WAS PLACED ON THE AGENDA BY MR. ROSS. YOU HAVE THE FLOOR.

>> THANK YOU. I HAVE ATTENDED THE PORT AUTHORITY MEETING ON THE 13TH OF MAY.

I HAVE SOME THINGS TO REPORT, THE GOOD NEWS IS THE PORT, ALTHOUGH THEIR BUSINESS HAS DECREASE THEY HAVE HAD NO LAYOFFS AND NO FURLOUGHS, THEY HAVE A NEW CUSTOMER WHICH IS THE SWEETEST CHEF WHICH WILL BRING WOOD PRODUCTS INTO THE CITY, THEY ALSO FINISHED THE DRAFT OF THE INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT TO MOVE THE CHANNEL AND THEY WERE GOING TO SEND IT TO THE CITY ATTORNEY, I DON'T KNOW IF SHE HAS RECEIVED IT OR NOT, AND IT WAS GOING TO BE THE NEXT DAY SO WE ARE STILL WAITING FOR THAT. THEY WANT TO GO TO MEDIATION ON THE 15TH OF JULY AND HAVE IT AT A PLACE WHERE WE CAN HAVE SOCIAL DISTANCING AND PERHAPS IN THEIR REPORT THE CITY ATTORNEY CAN SPEAK TO THAT, IT'S ALSO INTERESTING THAT THE PORT AUTHORITY HAS STOPPED BUDGETING FOR THE $60000 AFTER PAYOUTS EVERY YEAR, AND PART OF THE REASON FOR THAT IS THEY HAD NO WAY TO PAY IT IN THE FUTURE, TO

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HAVE. >> CITY ATTORNEY.

>> YES, THE VERY FIRST THING SO I DON'T FORGET IS JULY 15, JUNE 3 WAS WHAT WE HAD ORIGINALLY SCHEDULED FOR OUR JOINT PUBLIC MEDIATION AND THE ATTORNEY FOR THE PORT AUTHORITY, MYSELF AND CARLOS, THE MEDIATOR THAT WE'VE AGREED TO DISCUSSED LAST WEEK EXTENDING THE DEADLINE FOR HAVING THAT MEDIATION AND WE ALSO AGREED ON, WE KNOW TUESDAYS AND WEDNESDAYS ARE GENERALLY GOOD, OR I DO FOR OUR CITY COMMISSIONERS SO WEDNESDAY JULY 15, IF YOU ALL AGREE IT WOULD BE MOST HELPFUL TO HAVE ON THE RECORD OF VOTE, IT'S OKAY THAT WE DON'T HAVE IT ON THE AGENDA JUST LIKE LAST TIME BUT I WOULD ASK THAT YOU ALL MAKE A MOTION AND VOTE TO APPROVE AN EXTENSION TO CONDUCT AND COMPLETE THIS MEDIATION AND MAKE THAT DEADLINE BY SEPTEMBER 1, JUST IN CASE WE HAVE TO MOVE IT ONE MORE TIME FROM JULY.

>> SO MOVED. >> SECOND.

>> COMMISSIONER ROSS. >> YES WE MET COMMISSIONER

CHAPMAN. >> YES.

>> AND WITH REGARD MR. MAYOR AND COMMISSIONERS TO THE LOCATION, WE ALSO DISCUSSED THAT BECAUSE WE WOULD, WHAT WE CALL A MEDIATION CAUCUS WHERE THE CITY COMMISSION WOULD BE SEPARATED FROM THE PORT AUTHORITY AND THE MEDIATOR MAY GO BACK BETWEEN THE TWO ROOMS, THE PUBLIC IS ABLE TO VIEW BOTH OF THE ROOMS, CITY HALL IN THESE TIMES, EVEN ON JULY 15 MAY NOT BE THE BEST PLACE TO SOCIAL DISTANCE DEPENDING ON HOW MANY MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC SO WE WOULD RECOMMEND AT LEAST THE ATTORNEYS AND I HAVE AGREED THAT THE GOLF COURSE, AND I HAVE CALLED STEVE MURPHY TODAY AT THE GOLF COURSE, WE DO HAVE SPACE AVAILABLE THERE PLUS A LARGE CONFERENCE ROOM IN THE FRONT OF THE CLUBHOUSE AND ALSO AS WE HAVE HAD OUR VISIONING SESSIONS TAKING UP ABOUT HALF OF THE PUBLIC EVENT SPACE IN THERE SO THEY HAVE THAT TENTATIVELY BOOKED FOR US AND I THINK THE PORT AUTHORITY JUST HAS TO AGREE TO THAT FORMALLY AT THEIR NEXT

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>> NO. >> I GUESS.

[INAUDIBLE] WE CAN'T USE THE CREWS SHIP I ASSUME, WE CAN'T GET THE LIDO DECK TO DO IT THERE.

>> NO, BUT I DID SUGGEST TO MAKE IT MORE APPEALING TO THE PORT AUTHORITY THAT THE ATTORNEY HAD SUGGESTED MAYBE GOING OUT TO THE COLLEGE IN YULEE, THEY HAVE A LARGE TRAINING ROOM THERE, AND I SAID YES BUT THE GOLF COURSE SO WE DON'T EVEN HAVE TO LEAVE.

AT LEAST THEY THOUGHT THAT WAS OKAY.

WE WILL SEE WHAT THE WORK COMMISSIONERS BELIEVE.

THAT WAS ALL THAT I HAD TO SAY ON THE PORT AUTHORITY.

THANK YOU FOR THE EXTENSION AND HOPEFULLY WE WILL GET THIS DONE JULY 15. I DID WANT TO ASK COMMISSIONER

ROSS IF I MIGHT QUESTION. >> YES, GO AHEAD.

>> DID YOU HAPPEN TO NOTICE COMMISSIONER ROSS IN THE BUDGET FOR THE PORT AUTHORITY THAT THEY'D INCREASED WHAT THEY'RE GOING TO BE SPENDING ON ATTORNEY FEES.

>> NO. THEY HAVE A LIMIT AND THEY ARE

RUNNING OUT OF MONEY. >> OKAY, I WAS JUST CURIOUS BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY THIS THING ENDS WHEN YOU ALL AND THE PORT AUTHORITY WANTED TO END, BUT IF WE REACH HIM PAST THAT MEDIATION AND YOU CHOOSE TO GO TO THE NEXT LEVEL THEY WILL

NEED MONEY TO PAY LEGAL FEES. >> IF I COULD JUST SPEAK TO THEIR BUDGET, THEY DID RAISE THEIR SALARIES BY ONE 100% FROM 1000 TO 2000 RECENTLY, AND WHEN THEY AGREED WITH WORLDWIDE TERMINALS TO THEIR AGREEMENT THEY TOOK ON A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF MONEY AND IT'S PRETTY LIMITED AND THERE'S NO WAY TO INCREASE THAT, THERE'S NO WAY TO NEGOTIATE AND FINALLY AT THE LAST MEETING, WORLDWIDE TERMINALS WAS UNABLE TO MAKE ITS OBLIGATION EVEN FOR THAT AND THEY HAD TO TAKE A 13000-DOLLAR, THEY AGREED TO TAKE $13000 LESS THAN WHAT WORLDWIDE TERMINALS WAS SUPPOSED TO PAY THEM. I THINK THEY HAVE SOME MONETARY ISSUES THERE. THANK YOU.

>> ALL RIGHT. [INAUDIBLE]

>> YES, SIR. >> THIS IS THE NUMBER ONE THIS

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FLOOR. >> YES, THE TRAGIC APPEARANCE OF THE THOMPSON HOUSE AND LULU'S SO IN FEBRUARY, NUMBER ONE, THE REASON THIS IS ON THE AGENDA FOR DISCUSSION AND CONSIDERATION IS THAT THE CODE ENFORCEMENT BOARD, I BELIEVE AT OUR LAST MEETING WHICH WAS THE FIRST WEEK IN MARCH, BY STATUTE THEY HAVE TO AUTHORIZE FORECLOSURE AND THE CITY DID HAVE A CODE LIEN RUNNING ON THAT PROPERTY AND THEY AUTHORIZE FORECLOSURE BUT THE CITY COMMISSION HAS TO GIVE THE MONEY FOR IT AND ULTIMATELY AUTHORIZE IT, AND THE REASON IT'S NOT A REGULAR ITEM IS BECAUSE SCHEDULING THIS AND LAST WEEK WE FOUND OUT THROUGH A TITLE SEARCH THAT WE DID WITH THE TITLE COMPANY THAT THERE WAS A FORECLOSURE, AND NOT JUST THE FORECLOSURE AND FINAL JUDGMENT BY A SALE SET. THERE IS A NEW OWNER, IT IS AN LLC SO NOT A BIG CORPORATION BUT SOMEBODY WHICH WE HOPE IS GOOD NEWS, BUT THE BOTTOM LINE WITH REGARD TO THE CODE CASE IS THAT I HAD TALKED WITH CODE ENFORCEMENT AND THEY NEED TO START A NEW CODE CASE SO WHAT HAPPENED IN TIMING IS THAT OUR CODE LIEN WAS PROBABLY FILED WHILE A FORECLOSURE WAS ACTUALLY PENDING AND BECAUSE WE DIDN'T HAVE THE TITLES WE FOUND IT BY LOOKING AT PORT RECORD SO A TITLE SEARCH WASN'T GOING TO REVEAL ANYTHING ANYWAY SO IT WAS JUST TIMING AND IT HAPPENED AND SINCE WE WERE NOT INCLUDED IN THE FORECLOSURE THE CITY DIDN'T GET TO SPEAK UP AND SAY ANYTHING ABOUT GETTING OUR LIEN MONEY.

ANYWAY, SO THAT DOES HAPPEN AND WE ARE GOING TO KEEP ON IT AND KEEP ON IT HOPEFULLY WITH NEW OWNERS WE WILL HAVE AN

IMPROVED PROPERTY. >> SO THERE'S A LIEN FOR CODE ENFORCEMENT, WHO DO WE GO AFTER FOR THAT MONEY.

THE CURRENT OWNERS OR THE PREVIOUS OWNERS.

>> YOU CAN'T GO AFTER THE PREVIOUS OWNERS.

ONCE IT'S IN FORECLOSURE ANYTHING THAT WAS FILED AFTER FORECLOSURE STARTS IS VOID AND YOU HAVE TO NOTIFY THE COURT JUST LIKE YOU WOULD IN A BANKRUPTCY SO I DON'T NORMALLY SPEND, COST ANYWHERE FROM 300 TO $1500 TO DO A TITLE SEARCH

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IT IS WHAT IT IS, NEW OWNERSHIP USUALLY MEANS GOOD RESULTS. WE WILL KEEP ON IT THOUGH WITH

CODE ENFORCEMENT. >> SO THE GOAL ISN'T TO GET FINANCIAL RESTITUTION IT'S TO BRING IT WITHIN CODE SO HOPEFULLY THAT HAPPENS. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

>> DOES THAT CONCLUDE. >> YES OR.

[Item 11]

>> ITEM 11, CITY MANAGEMENT. >> THANK YOU MR. MAYOR.

WE TALK ABOUT ALL THE CHALLENGES ASSOCIATED WITH THIS WEEKEND AND MEMORIAL DAY BUT I ASK YOU TO PLEASE REMEMBER WHY WE HAVE MEMORIAL DAY, WE DO HAVE THE CEREMONIES, THE ANNUAL CEREMONY SCHEDULED FOR DOWNTOWN, SPONSORED BY THE AMERICAN LEGION, WE WILL ENCOURAGE PEOPLE TO PARTICIPATE AND MAINTAIN SOCIAL DISTANCING, THIS IS BEING PUT TOGETHER BY THE AMERICAN LEGION SO HOPEFULLY SEVERAL OF YOU WILL ATTEND AND CONTINUE TO RECOGNIZE AND HONOR THE SERVICEMEN AND WOMEN THAT GAVE THEIR LIVES. IN DISCUSSION SEVERAL PARK AND REC FACILITIES ARE SCHEDULED TO OPEN NEXT WEEK TUESDAY INCLUDING THE POOL AT THE ATLANTIC REC CENTER FOR LAP SWIM AS WELL AS THE GYM, OR THE FITNESS CENTER AT THE ATLANTIC REC CENTER, THE STAFF IS PREPARING THOSE TWO FACILITIES, MORE DETAILS WILL COME OUT ABOUT THAT AS THEY GET WORKED OUT THIS WEEK BUT I BELIEVE THEY ARE RECOMMENDING THAT RESIDENTS INTERESTED IN LAP SWIM CALL AHEAD AND SCHEDULE AN APPOINTMENT, SCHEDULE A TIME FOR THE LAP SWIM, ALTHOUGH THEY WILL TAKE WALK-INS, BUT THE WAY THAT I UNDERSTAND IT IS JUST GOING TO BE THE POOL, THERE'S GOING TO BE NO LOCKER ROOM FACILITIES, YOU SHOW UP YOU DO YOUR SWIMMING AND YOU LEAVE. BUT I WILL PROVIDE MORE DETAILS LATER THIS WEEK ONCE THEY ARE FIRMED UP.

AND ALSO I HAD ANOTHER DISCUSSION WITH MR. HUDSON, HE HAS RECEIVED TWO APPRAISALS ON SOME OF OUR SUBJECT PROPERTIES THAT WE HAD OUR EYES ON SO I WILL START FURTHER DISCUSSIONS WITH MR. HUDSON TO ADD ADDITIONAL CONSERVATION LAND THAT WE BUDGETED MONEY FOR. THANK YOU FOR INPUT, I KNOW THE BEACHES WILL BE CHALLENGING THIS WEEKEND, THE CHIEF DID PROVIDE YOU WITH THAT AND I HAVE FULL FAITH AND CONFIDENCE THAT CHIEF WILL BE ABLE TO HANDLE THE BEACHES ADEQUATELY THIS WEEKEND BUT IT WILL BE A CHALLENGE.

THANK YOU. PENDING ANY QUESTION, THAT'S

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ALL I HAVE. >> CITY ATTORNEY.

>> THE OTHER PROPERTY THAT HAD MANY CODE VIOLATIONS ABOUT MAINTENANCE OF PROPERTY IN THE GROUND THERE IS 505 SOUTH 17TH STREET. THE CITY HAS, FOR SEVERAL YEARS HAD CODE ENFORCEMENT LIENS ON THAT PROPERTY, AND I DID FILE FORECLOSURE ACTION LAST YEAR AND AT THE SAME TIME THE BANK, NOT THE SAME TIME, BUT A YEAR BEFORE THE BANK HAD FILED THE FORK CLOSURE AND SCHEDULED THE SALE FOR TWO MONTHS AFTER I FILED MINE SO ONCE I LET THE SALE GO THROUGH ON SEPTEMBER 17, 2019 IT WAS PURCHASED BY AN LLC, IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S A LAW FIRM OUT OF JACKSONVILLE FOR A GROUP OF LAWYERS, AND WE DID IN MARCH, THE SAME SITUATION THE CODE LIENS, THAT'S WHY I FILED OUR OWN FORECLOSURE, IT WOULD BEEN FORECLOSED SO I FIGURED WITH THE NEW OWNERS WE WOULD START A NEW CODE CHASE IF THEY DIDN'T GET RIGHT ON IT.

THEY DID NOT GET RIGHT ON CLEANING UP THE PROPERTY, PART OF ME THEY STARTED BUT THEY WALKED AWAY IT LOOKS LIKE AT THE BEGINNING OF THIS YEAR, MAYBE DECEMBER SO THEY WERE ISSUED ANOTHER CITATION UNDER THE NEW OWNERSHIP, AND THEN WE WERE READY TO SCHEDULE A NOTICE OF HEARING AND BRING THEM TO A HEARING AND THE PANDEMIC STOPPED OUR CODE ENFORCEMENT MEETINGS. WE HAVE NOT HAD A CODE ENFORCEMENT MEETING SINCE THE FIRST WEEK IN MARCH AND WE ARE NOT HAVING ONE IN JUNE, I HAVEN'T INVESTIGATED WHY THAT IS, I JUST SAW THE CANCELLATION NOTICE TODAY BUT I EXPECT THAT IN JULY A NOTICE OF HEARING WILL GO TO THE LAWYERS IN JACKSONVILLE THAT ARE LETTING THIS PROPERTY SIT

AT 505 SOUTH 17. >> THANK YOU.

>> AND EVERYBODY HAVE A HAPPY AND SAFE MEMORIAL DAY.

>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >> CITY CLERK.

[Item 13]

>> YES, MAYOR, THANK YOU. >> HE ANNOUNCED HIS CANDIDACY A COUPLE DAYS AGO FOR THE 2020 GENERAL ELECTION AND ALSO THEY

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[Items 14 & 15]

ADDITIONAL INFORMATION. >> THANK YOU.

[INAUDIBLE] >> THANK YOU MR. MAYOR.

SORRY I'M LATE. I HAD TO GET MY MOUSE OVER UNMUTE. I WISH EVERYONE A SAFE AND HAPPY HOLIDAY, I WOULD LIKE TO ASK ONE QUESTION, WHEN WILL WE BE DETERMINED WHETHER WE ARE GOING TO MEET VIRTUALLY OR IN PERSON IN JUNE. WHEN AND HOW WILL THAT

DECISION BE MADE? >> I THINK FOR NOW LET'S PLAN ON IT, AND WE WILL WORK OUT THE DETAILS AND GET THOSE TO YOU THIS WEEK OR EARLY NEXT WEEK, BUT I THINK FOR THE SAKE OF PLANNING PURPOSES LET'S PLAN ON HAVING THE ENTIRE CITY COMMISSION APPEAR ON THE FOR THE JUNE 2 MEETING.

>> AND WILL THAT INCLUDE PUBLIC ATTENDANCE IN THE

MEETING ROOM? >> YES, WITH THE APPROPRIATE DISTANCE BETWEEN CITY STAFF WE WILL RECONFIGURE THE CHAIRS IN THE CITY COMMISSION CHAMBERS TO ALLOW FOR AS MANY PEOPLE, RECOGNIZE THE SOCIAL DISTANCING REQUIREMENTS WHICH MAY BE LESS THAN THE 50% OCCUPANCY OR THE 50 PEOPLE THAT THE GOVERNOR ORDERS NOW ALLOW FOR AND WE WILL ACCOMMODATE PUBLIC COMMENT PROCEDURES AS WELL.

BUT THE INTENT IS THAT WE WILL HAVE THE CITY COMMISSIONERS AND THE PUBLIC AND THE OPPORTUNITY FOR PUBLIC COMMENT TO BE DELIVERED IN PERSON AT THE JUNE 2 MEETING.

>> THANK YOU. I WOULD JUST LIKE TO CLOSE WITH RECOGNIZING, POLICE, FIRE AND OCEAN RESCUE, AND ALSO THE UNSEEN, UNRECOGNIZED VOLUNTEERS, BOTH THE POLICE EXHILARATING AND THE BEACH RANGERS FOR THEIR SERVICE, ESPECIALLY LAST WEEKEND AND THIS UPCOMING WEEKEND, BEING OUT THERE FIRSTHAND AND BEING WITH THEM FOR THAT TO A HALF-HOUR WINDOW WAS VERY ILLUMINATING AND ADDED TO THE CHALLENGES AND BELIEVE ME, IT'S HOT ON THAT BEACH.

SO THANK YOU FOR THEIR SERVICE.

THANK YOU. >> FIRST I WOULD LIKE TO SAY, HAVE A VERY THOUGHTFUL MEMORIAL DAY.

WE ARE GOING THROUGH SOME TOUGH TIMES RIGHT NOW AND MAY BE MEMORIAL DAY WEEKEND IS A GOOD TIME TO REFLECT ON WHAT OUR BRAVE MEN AND WOMEN WENT THROUGH AS THEY KEPT OUR LIBERTIES FOR US AND I THINK EVERY VETERAN DESERVES A TREMENDOUS THANK YOU. THE OTHER THING I WOULD LIKE TO DO IS RECALL AN E-MAIL THAT WE ALL RECEIVED.

IT WAS ACTUALLY SENT TO TAMMY AND IT IS FROM A WARREN BUCHANAN AND IT READS, I HAVE BEEN MEANING TO WRITE TO YOU DIRECTLY ON THIS ISSUE AND YOU CAN SEE THAT I AM COPYING BILL AND JASON ON THIS MESSAGE. I CO-AUTHORED A WHITE PAPER ON USING THE GIS TO IMPROVE THE MAPPING OF WETLAND WITH THE PERSON WHO IS BEEN THE ASSISTANT TO JASON GREGORY, THE HEAD OF THE CHIEF IIS SYSTEM IN THE PROPERTY APPRAISALS OFFICE. THE OBSERVATION WAS THAT THE MAPPING WAS VERY INACCURATE. I WAS AWARE THAT THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN STATED THAT THE CITY DESIRED TO PROVIDE WETLAND SO RELYING ON INACCURATE AND INCOMPLETE WETLAND MAPPING, THE NATIONAL WETLAND INVENTORY IS WHAT THE GIS RELIES ON IS PROBLEMATIC. THEN THE AMELIA BLUFF CASE FLARED UP. I WAS ASKED TO SERVE AS AN EXPERT WITNESS ON MAPPING ISSUES FOR THE PLAINTIFF.

I THOROUGHLY STUDIED THE FACTS AND DETERMINED THAT THE MAP WAS IN ERROR. I COULD NOT SUPPORT A SUIT WHEN I BELIEVED, ALTHOUGH THE PROCESS WAS QUITE FLAWED, THAT THE ULTIMATE CONCLUSION BY THE MAJORITY OF THE CITY COMMISSION WAS CORRECT. I KNOW NOW THAT MUCH WORK HAS BEEN DONE TO CORRECT AND RECONCILE THE CONFLICTS BETWEEN THE ZONING MAP. [INAUDIBLE] BUT THERE ARE ADDITIONAL SIMILAR CASES THAT ARE NOT BEING ADDRESSED. I READ THAT ONLY BECAUSE OF

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>> COMMISSIONER ROSS. >> THANK YOU MAYOR.

>> THERE ARE A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO I WOULD LIKE TO THINK DURING THIS TIME BUT I'M GONNA FOCUS ON THE POLICE AND THE BEACH RANGERS AND THE OCEAN RESCUE AND THE OTHER PEOPLE WORK ON THE BEACH FOR THEIR EFFORTS LAST WEEKEND AND FOR THEIR EFFORTS COMING UP THIS WEEKEND.

I THINK IT MAY BE A TRYING WEEKEND, BUT HOPEFULLY WE WILL PREVAIL. I ALSO WOULD LIKE TO THANK THE LOCAL FOOD BANKS FOR CONTINUING TO PROVIDE FOOD FOR PEOPLE WHO ARE HAVING PROBLEMS FINANCIALLY, WE NEED TO REMEMBER THAT A LARGE PERCENTAGE OF THE COMMUNITY IS UNEMPLOYED AT THIS POINT AND ALTHOUGH WE'VE TALKED ABOUT A LOT OF THINGS TONIGHT, I WILL CALL THEM FIRST WORLD PROBLEMS, THERE ARE A LOT OF PEOPLE OUT THERE WHO ARE HURTING AND WE NEED TO KEEP THEM IN MIND.

IT IS GOING TO BE A CHALLENGING WEEKEND AND I THINK THAT HOPEFULLY THE POLICE AND FIRE AND RESCUE WILL GET THROUGH IT. FINALLY I JUST WANT TO SAY TO THE PUBLIC THAT IF YOU HAVE ANY SOLUTIONS FOR THE CHALLENGES THAT ARE PRESENTED TO THE CITY, I WOULD APPRECIATE IF YOU WOULD E-MAIL ME OR ANY OF THE OTHER CITY COMMISSIONERS WITH YOUR IDEAS BECAUSE WE ARE A COMMUNITY AND IF WE ALL PULL OUR HEADS TOGETHER AND WORK TOGETHER I THINK WE WILL HAVE MUCH BETTER COMMUNITY.

THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU SIR.

>> VICE MAYOR. YOU ARE MUTED SIR.

>> IN THE LAST FIVE DAYS THE INFECTION RATE HAS GONE UP 10% IN FLORIDA, THE DEPTH% HAS GONE UP 10% IN FLORIDA, WE WENT FROM 61 TO 66, IT'S NOT OVER, BE CAREFUL.

I GOT AN E-MAIL LATE THIS AFTERNOON FROM THE CDC ASKING IF WE MIGHT WANT TO SHARE SOME INFORMATION.

IN APRIL 2019 THE OCCUPANCY RATE WAS 29.1.

REVENUE 12.6. NOW 500,000.

I BRING THAT UP BECAUSE I THINK WE ALL ARE AWARE THERE ARE PROBLEMS OR ECONOMIC ISSUES AND WE ARE LOOKING AT THAT. ONE OTHER ITEM, I ACTUALLY ACQUIRED THE CDC GUIDELINES FOR PARKS AND RECREATION AND THEY ARE ADDRESSING THE POOL, BUT ONE CONCERN I HAVE AND I GET A LOT OF CALLS ON THAT, YOUTH ATHLETIC ACTIVITIES ON THE FIELD, THEY ARE WAITING FOR DECISIONS, THE CDC BASICALLY DISCOURAGES ANY YOUTH ACTIVITIES RIGHT NOW SO I THINK IT'S SOMETHING WE NEED TO ADDRESS SO THOSE ORGANIZATIONS CAN EFFECTIVELY MOVE ON AND WE THANKED EVERYBODY, BUT I THINK WE NEED TO THINK THE GROCERY STORE CLERKS TO WHO HAVE BEEN AROUND AND ALL THE PEOPLE, THE ESSENTIAL WORKERS THAT HAVE BEEN OUT THERE EXPOSING THEMSELVES SO THAT WE CAN MOVE ON.

I'LL BE THERE THE 22ND PERIOD I WILL WEAR MY HAT.

THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU'S ARE.

>> OKAY, AGAIN ONCE AGAIN TOMORROW ON WEDNESDAY AS OF EVERY WEDNESDAY FOR THE PAST AND NEAR FUTURE THERE IS A FREE GIVEAWAY. HOT FOOD WILL BE GIVEN OVER THE PARKING LOT ON A STREET AND THAT'S STARTS AROUND LUNCHTIME TOMORROW UNTIL IT'S GONE.

FEEL FREE, NO QUESTIONS ASKED, POLIN, GRAB SOMETHING TO EAT AND GO. THE ARGUMENTS FROM THE CREWS SHIP THAT WAS IN, CORRECT YES, THERE'S BEEN SO MUCH MEDIA COVERAGE ABOUT THE CREWS SHIPS NOT HAVING A PLACE TO GO EARLIER IN THE BEGINNING OF THIS, THE ONES THAT WERE FLOATING AROUND ACROSS THE COAST OF SOUTH FLORIDA ABOUT THESE THINGS, I KNOW IT'S HARD TO PULL INTO A PORT WHERE YOU'RE NOT WELCOME I KNOW SOME CITIES AREN'T AS EXCITED TO SEE YOU AND SO I THOUGHT IT WAS IMPORTANT TO REACH OUT TO MEMBERS OF THIS GROUP, HE GOT A TELEGRAPH SAYING TO LET US KNOW WHAT IS GOING TO HAPPEN BEFORE THIS GIANT CRUISE SHIP PULLED INTO PORT WHICH WAS GOOD TO GET OUT IN FRONT OF IT BUT THEY ARE TAKING EVERY STEP POSSIBLE AND THESE GUYS, A LOT OF THEM ARE FROM COUNTRIES OVERSEAS AND THEY DON'T HAVE THE ABILITY TO PROVIDE THEIR OWN WAY BACK HOME SO THEY

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IT IS IMPORTANT THAT WE RECOGNIZE THAT THEY DON'T WANT TO BE HERE ANYMORE THAN THEY ARE, BUT THEY WILL BE HERE FOR A COUPLE MONTHS SO THANK YOU COMMISSIONER ROSS FOR BRINGING THAT UP. I THOUGHT IT WAS IMPORTANT TO PRESENT THAT TO THE CAPTAIN, THEY WENT OUT AND WHILE THE CREWMEMBERS KNOW WHEN THEY LOOK OUT OVER THE SIDES OF THE RAILS THEY SEE A TOWN THAT IS VERY SORRY THEY CAN'T VISIT THEM AT THIS TIME AND HOPEFULLY AT SOME POINT THEY CAN COME BACK AND WE CAN OPEN THEM WITH WELCOME ARMS. SO, THE COMMISSIONER, THE DISCUSSION ITEMS THAT HAVE BECOME THE TOPIC TONIGHT, I WAS TALKING TO THE CITY MANAGER OVER THE PAST FEW WEEKS, COMMISSIONER ROSS IS RIGHT. THIS IS SOMETHING THAT GOES BACK TO THE LAST COMMISSION, THE ONE RIGHT BEFORE THIS ONE SOME OF THE COMMISSIONER COMMENTS WERE DRAGGING ON AND BECOMING, THEY WERE TRYING TO GET CONSENSUS FOR DIFFERENT IDEAS AND HISTORICALLY THE POINT OF THE COMMENTS HAS BEEN LIKE WERE DOING TONIGHT, WE ARE ANNOUNCING ACTIVITIES, THANKING PEOPLE SO THEN WE CREATED DISCUSSION ITEMS SO THAT WE COULD, AS THE COMMISSIONER POINTED OUT WITH THE SUNSHINE LAWS WE REALLY CAN'T TALK TO EACH OTHER WITHOUT BEING IN THE SETTING, A COUPLE TIMES WE GET CLOSE TO THE DIRECTION OR SORT OF CLOSE TO TAKING ACTION LIKE WE TALK ABOUT IMPLEMENTING FEES OR THINGS LIKE THAT, I THINK WERE ALL PRETTY MUCH ON THE SAME PAGE THAT THESE ARE ITEMS TO DISCUSS TO SEE IF IT WARRANTS ADDING IT TO AN AGENDA ITEM FOR THE DISCUSSION SO WE DON'T BOG DOWN THE CITY AGENDA WITH A LOT OF THINGS THAT MAKE IT OUT THERE AND THE COMMISSIONER DECIDES WHAT HE WANTS TO DO AND IT FALLS ON DEAF EARS AND NO ONE TURNS A LIGHT ON. I THINK THAT'S A GREAT PROGRAM, BUT YOU'RE CORRECT IN THAT A LOT OF PEOPLE OVER THE LAST, ESPECIALLY OVER THE LAST TWO OR THREE WEEKS ARE HEARING THINGS IN THERE LIKE I DIDN'T KNOW THAT WAS ON THERE, I HADN'T HEARD THAT BECAUSE A LOT OF TIMES PEOPLE TUNE OUT AFTER THE ITEMS ARE OVER. I KNOW THAT OBVIOUSLY WE ARE EMPTY NOW BUT AS YOU ALL KNOW TOWARD THE END OF THE MEETING THE PLACE KIND OF FILES OUT THROUGHOUT THE NIGHT AND THERE'S THINGS THEY MISS. I THINK A LOT OF IMPORTANT INFORMATION, SOMETIMES SOME OF THE MOST IMPORTANT INFORMATION ABOUT WHAT'S COMING UP IN THE FUTURE COMES OUT DURING THE ITEMS OF DISCUSSION SO I WOULD LIKE TO DO IS TRY TO MOVE THAT TO THE TOP OF THE AGENDA INSTEAD OF THE BOTTOM SO I LIKE TO DO NEXT WEEK IS GO-AHEAD AND I THINK I TALK TO ABOUT THIS, TRY THAT RIGHT BEFORE THE PUBLIC COMMENT BECAUSE AS YOU TALKED ABOUT PEOPLE TRYING TO BE INVOLVED IN HEARING THINGS THAT ARE HAPPENING IN EXPRESSING THEIR FEELINGS, I THINK IT WOULD BE A GOOD OPPORTUNITY INSTEAD OF WAITING FOR THE NEXT TWO WEEKS FOR THEM TO FEEDBACK ON WHAT HAPPENED BECAUSE NOW YOU'RE IN ANOTHER DISCUSSION ITEM THAT HAPPENED RIGHT AT THE BEGINNING OF THE MEETING AND HAVE IT ON YOUR MIND AND CONSIDERATE WHILE THE MEETING IS STILL IN EFFECT. SO WERE GOING TO TRY TO PUT THAT ITEM RIGHT BEFORE ITEM FIVE AND THEN WE CAN INVOLVE THE PUBLIC SOMEWHERE IN THAT WE CAN ALWAYS MOVE IT BACK.

MEMORIAL DAY I WANT TO THANK EVERYBODY THAT HISTORICALLY EVERY MEMORIAL DAY I THINK I SPEAK FOR DALE AND LYNN, OBVIOUSLY ALL OUR STAFF THAT ARE MILITARY SERVICE MEMBERS OR VETERANS, THIS DAY IS NOT ABOUT US, IT'S ABOUT THE ONES WHO DIDN'T MAKE IT BACK AND WHILE WE APPRECIATE ALL THE ACCOLADES AND THANK YOU FOR THE SERVICE THIS IS TIME TO APPRECIATE THOSE WHO GAVE THE ULTIMATE SACRIFICE AND WERE NOT ABLE TO RETURN FROM COMBAT.

LET'S KEEP IT IN MIND AND ALL RESPECT THE PEOPLE WHO GAVE THEIR LIVES FOR OUR COUNTRY ON THE 22ND AND I LOOK FORWARD TO THAT EVENT AS WELL. AS FAR AS THE BEACHES GO AND THE LAW ENFORCEMENT, AS COMMISSIONERS WE DIRECT THE CITY MANAGER TO COME UP AND IMPLEMENT WHAT WE THINK THE COMMUNITY WANTS US TO DO AND WHAT'S THE RIGHT THING IF WE HAVE ALL THE BRIEFINGS WE CAN GET IN ONE OF THE THINGS WE DID, EVERYBODY SAID WE HAVE THE SAME PROBLEMS ON THE BEACH EVERY YEAR WHEN IT COMES TO SIDE OF THE ROAD ACCESS AND TRAFFIC PASSING. THE DIFFERENCE BEING WE'VE ADDED 300 FEET ONTO A 600-FOOT, LIKE ONE THIRD OF THAT IS BIGGER SO WE'VE TASK THAT WITH OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT AND OUR LIFEGUARDS ENFORCING THE BEACH DRIVING AND TRYING TO KEEP PEOPLE COME YOU MENTIONED HOW THAT DROPS OFF WHERE YOU CAN'T SEE WHERE THE CUT IS IN THE TIDE COMES IN, THAT'S WHERE WE HAD THE MISHAP THE LAST FEW YEARS AGO. WE TRY TO KEEP PEOPLE FROM THAT AREA AND BEING DOWN IN THE AREA AND WE DID THAT, IT WAS NOT LAW-ENFORCEMENT, IT WAS OUR IDEA TO ALLOW THEM TO EXTEND THAT TO THE FULL 600 FEET THAT WE SAW THAT WAS A PROBLEM AND MOVED OUT TO STORM.

THAT DID NOT COME FROM LAW ENFORCEMENT.

WE PUT ALL THAT ON OUR PUBLIC SERVICE PLATE SO, THAT BEING SAID, I WANT TO COMMEND THE FACT THAT NEVER HAVE I HEARD OF POLICE OFFICER COMPLAIN AND COME UP AND SAY THIS IS TERRIBLE, WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO DO ABOUT IT.

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THEY'RE GIVEN A MISSION AND THEY FOLLOW THROUGH WITH IT.

THE OTHER THING I HAVEN'T HEARD IS ANY E-MAILS, PHONE CALLS, FACE-TO-FACE CONVERSATIONS ABOUT ANY NEGATIVE CONFLICT BETWEEN LAW ENFORCEMENT, LIFEGUARD AND CITIZENS ON THE BEACH. WHEN YOU HAVE A SITUATION THAT IS THAT VOLATILE WITH PEOPLE GETTING STUCK IN TRYING TO GET PULLED OUT, PEOPLE AROUND WITH THE SOCIAL DISTANCING COME OF THE FACT THAT WE HAVEN'T HAD COMPLAINTS ABOUT LAW ENFORCEMENT AND THE WAY THERE COMMUNICATING WITH THE COMMUNITY IS OUTSTANDING. I THINK THAT GOES ALONG WAY OF SAYING LIKE I ALWAYS SAY THAT WE BY FAR HAVE THE BEST LAW ENFORCEMENT DIVISION IN THE STATE OF FLORIDA.

IT JUST DOESN'T GET ANY BETTER THAN THIS.

LAW-ENFORCEMENT BACKGROUND FOR A WHILE AND THESE COMPLAINTS COME IN AND WHEN THEY'RE GONNA COME THERE, COME TO US.

I HAVEN'T HEARD ANY AND I DON'T KNOW IF ANY OF YOU HAVE SO I WANT TO COMMEND OUR LAW ENFORCEMENT FOR TAKING THE HAND WE DEALT THEM AND HANDLE IT THE BEST WAY POSSIBLE AND I AGREE WITH ALL OF YOU, IF THEY SEE THERE'S A PROBLEM OUT THERE, I THINK WE ALL AGREE IF IT COMES BACK WE NEED TO DO SOMETHING, I THINK THAT'S ON US TO HELP THEM PROVIDE THE BEST WORKPLACE AND THE BEST SAFE ATMOSPHERE THEY CAN AND MAKE THEIR LIFE EASIER. SO ON BEHALF OF THE ENTIRE COMMISSION I THINK I CAN SAY TO EVERYBODY OUT ON THE BEACH THIS WEEKEND, FROM THE VOLUNTEERS TO BEACH CLEANUP BUT MOSTLY TO OUR LIFEGUARDS, FIREFIGHTERS AND POLICE OFFICERS, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR EVERYTHING YOU DO.

WE KNOW YOU WE HANDED YOU A HEAVY DUTY PLATE IN YOUR HANDLING IT LIKE PROFESSIONA

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.