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[Call to Order]

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>>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH AT THIS TIME WE WILL CALL TO ORDER THE FERNANDINA BEACH.

IT IS APRIL 21, 2020. IT IS 6:00 P.M. COULD YOU PLEASE CALL THE ROLL.

>>> COMMISSIONER LEBOVITZ. COMMISSIONER ROSS. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

AT THIS TIME ONLY IN THE CHAMBERS, WE WILL RISE FOR THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE.

THEN THIS ALLEGIANCE. AND THE INVOCATION. >>> I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA. TO THE REPUBLIC TO WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION, UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.

>> IT WENT OVER LIKE SOME OF THE NEWS MEDIA. >> AGAIN FROM, PASTOR FELIX OF

TRINITY UNITED METHODIST CHURCH LET'S PRAY. >> HEAVENLY FATHER IN OUR HEARTS WE PLAN OUR COURSE. WE PRAY YOU WILL GUIDE OUR STEPS.

THAT WE SEE YOU FOR ADVICE, LET US NOT MAKE DECISIONS BASED ON WHAT WE KNOW BUT LET'S ACT BASED UPON YOUR WISDOM. PLEASE PUT THIS MEETING IN YOUR HANDS.

WE PLACE OUR HEARTS AND OUR MINDS IN YOUR HANDS SO YOU MAY DIRECT THE SPIRIT AMAN.

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>>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >>> THIS IS PROCLAMATION AND PRESENTATION.

WE HAVE FIVE OF THEM TONIGHT. WE HAVE FIVE PROCLAMATION OF THE BUDGET SUMMARY.

THEY ARE TO THE NATIONAL LIBRARY WEEK. WE ALSO HAVE WATER CONSERVATION MONTH. THE NEW ZION MISSIONARY BAPTIST CHURCH 150TH ANNIVERSARY.

CONGRATULATIONS TO THEM. AND A PROCLAMATION TO THE RETIREMENT OF MS. ROBIN MARLEY.

CONGRATULATIONS TO HER AS WELL. >> HUMAN RESOURCES DIRECTOR. >> SO THOSE ARE AVAILABLE ON THE

AGENDA ATTACHMENT IF ANYONE WOULD LIKE TO REVIEW THOSE. >> AND ITEM 4.5 IS THE BUDGET SUMMARY. THAT HAS BEEN ATTACHED AS WELL. IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS YOU

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CAN ASK. >> ITEM FIVE, PUBLIC COMMENT. I THINK WE WILL WAIT -- DO YOU

WANT TO DO THE ONES WE HAVE NOW. >> YES, ALL OF THE PUBLIC COMMENTS HAVE BEEN SHARED WITH THE CITY COMMISSIONERS AND DIRECTED TO THE MAYOR. THEY HAVE ALL RECEIVED COPIES OF

THE PUBLIC COMMENTS THAT WE HAVE RECEIVED IN THE LAST WEEK. >>> OKAY.

UNDER RESOLUTIONS. >> I SEE YOUR HAND, WHAT YOU THINK.

>> THANK YOU I ALSO HAD A COMMENT ON THE FINANCIALS. >> SURE.

>> IF YOU, LOOK AT THE FINANCIALS AND YOU LOOK AT THE SALES TAXES, YOU WILL SEE HOW MUCH UNDER, FOR THE MONTH OF MARCH THAT WE ARE AND IN TOTAL, WE ARE A LITTLE UNDER 40% WITH HALF OF THE YEAR TOO. AND AT THE COUNTY COMMISSION MEETING LAST WEEK, THERE DIRECTOR OF THE OFFICE OF MANAGEMENT AND BUDGET, WAS FORECASTING A LOSS IN SALES TAX REVENUE FOR THE COUNTY, BETWEEN 30% AND 60%. I JUST WANT TO MAKE MY FELLOW COMMISSIONERS AWARE OF THAT. HOPEFULLY THIS REFLECTS HALF OF MARCH, WITH THE CITY BEING SHUT DOWN. THE STATE BEING SHUT DOWN. AND I PREDICT AND EXPECT THAT, WHEN WE SEE THE APRIL NUMBERS THEY WILL BE SIGNIFICANTLY LOWER.

WE NEED TO PLAN ACCORDINGLY. THANK YOU, SIR. >> THANK YOU.

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>> UNDER SECTION SIX RESOLUTIONS ITEM 611. THE MAIN STREET PROGRAM SUPPORT

AND EXPANSION. CITY MANAGER. >> YOU HAVE BEFORE YOU A REQUEST PRESENTED BY BANCROFT WAS THE DIRECTOR REQUESTING A THREE YEAR EXTENSION TO THE CITY'S COMMITMENT. THE CITY'S CURRENT COMMITMENT IS $40,000.

YEAR FOR THREE YEARS. WE ACTUALLY HAVE A YEAR END A HALF TO GO ON THE EXISTING AGREEMENT. SO THIS IS FOR THREE YEARS BEGINNING ONE YEAR END A HALF

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FROM NOW. THE CORRESPONDENCE INDICATED SOME OF THE RATIONALE FOR THIS INCLUDING LONG-TERM STABILITY AND VIABILITY AND A DEMONSTRATION OF THE SUPPORT.

WE ASK FOR YOUR APPROVAL OF THIS RESOLUTION. >> THANK YOU SIR.

>> COMMISSIONER? >> THANK YOU. CAN YOU HEAR ME JUDGE?

>> YES, SIR. >> THE GOAL, IS TO STRENGTHEN OUR COMMUNITY THROUGH PRESERVATION BASED ECONOMIC VITALITY IN THE HISTORIC DOWNTOWN AND NEIGHBORING DISTRICTS. I BELIEVE THE MAIN STREET ORGANIZATION HAS ADVOCATED FOR THE PRESERVATION AND SUCCESS OF OUR HISTORIC DOWNTOWN. I WOULD LIKE TO SHARE IN AN E-MAIL I RECEIVED FROM A LOCAL RESTAURANT OWNER LOCATED DOWNTOWN.

THIS WAS IN APRIL, 2020. HE SUGGESTED THE CITY COMMISSIONERS, WE WOULD BLESS -- MIGHT LIKE TO EXTEND OUR SUPPORT FOR FUNDING FOR THE MAIN STREET PROGRAM IN OUR OPINION NO OTHER PROGRAM HAS HELPED TO DEVELOP DOWNTOWN AS MUCH AS THIS PROGRAM.

>> I ALSO RECEIVED SEVERAL E-MAILS FROM LOCAL BUSINESS OWNERS WITH SEVERAL COMMENTS.

I WOULD LIKE TO MOVE TO MOVE TO APPROVE THIS RESOLUTION. >> I WILL SECOND IT.

>> OUR PROMOTION TO SECOND PERIOD. >> A COUPLE OF POINTS.

AS THE CITY MANAGER ALREADY REPORTED, MAIN STREET IS FUNDED FOR ANOTHER YEAR END A HALF.

I KNOW WHY THEY WOULD LIKE FUNDING FOR AN ADDITIONAL I DON'T KNOW IF THIS IS THE RIGHT TIME FOR TWO REASONS. ONE, WE HAVE A CITY COMMISSION ELECTION IN SIX MONTHS.

I DON'T BELIEVE WE SHOULD PUT THEM WITH FUNDING THAT WILL RUN INTO HALF OF THEIR TERMS. THAT IS MY FIRST.MY SECOND.IS, WE DO NOT KNOW WHAT OUR FINANCIAL FOOTING WILL BE AT THE END OF THE PANDEMIC. I DON'T THINK WE SHOULD GIVE ANYONE THREE YEARS OF FUNDING.

UNTIL WE KNOW WHERE WE STAND FINANCIALLY WE SHOULD DO YEAR-TO-YEAR.

THOSE ARE MY TWO POINTS. I BELIEVE THIS SHOULD BE POSTPONED.

I SUPPORT MAIN STREET. I THINK THEY DO A GREAT JOB. BUT I WILL NOT VOTE FOR THIS FOR

THOSE TWO REASONS I CITED. >>> DID YOU HEAR THAT. >> I WILL SUPPORT THIS.

I RECEIVED A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF E-MAILS IN FAVOR OF IT AND WANTED TO NOT IN FAVOR.

ACTUALLY WITH THE PANDEMIC I THINK IT WILL BE NEEDED MORE THAN EVER TO BRING US BACK WHEN

THIS IS OVER. >> THANK YOU SIR. >> MR. ROSS.

>> -- LIVE A MOTION AND A SECOND PERIOD WILL YOU PLEASE CALL THE VOTE.

COMMISSIONER ROSS. YOU WILL HAVE TO UNMUTE YOUR PHONE.

>> COMMISSIONER CHAPMAN. >> YES. >> COMMISSIONER LINDA FITCH.

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>> NO. >> ITEM 6.2. THIS IS APPROVAL FOR THE HUMANE

SOCIETY. CITY MANAGER. >> WITH HER PERMISSION, THEY WORKED ON THIS AGREEMENT. IT IS FOR ADDITIONAL ANIMAL CONTROL SERVICES.

>> INDEED THIS IS GETTING AHEAD OF THE EXPIRATION THE CURRENT AGREEMENT FOR ANIMAL RESCUE

SERVICE PROVIDED IN THE -- HUMANE SOCIETY IS OCTOBER 31. >> WE USUALLY START EARLY SO THIS AGREEMENT IS EFFECTIVE WITH THE NEW TERMS AND THE NEW RATES. AND WE WILL TAKE INTO NASSAU HUMANE SOCIETY. IT IS A FIVE-YEAR AGREEMENT WITH THE NEW RENEWAL.

WE HAVE PREVIOUSLY HAD THAT. I DO WORK CLOSELY WITH THE HUMANE SOCIETY.

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THEY DO CALL ON ME, AT LEAST ONCE. MONTH FOR ADVICE AND PERHAPS WHEN THEY NEED HELP RESOLVING CASES. I WOULD RECOMMEND THAT YOU APPROVE IT. THE NEW RATES WON'T GO INTO EFFECT UNTIL THE END OF OCTOBER, NOVEMBER 1. I RECOMMEND APPROVAL. BUT I WANTED TO SHARE WITH YOU FROM THE PRESIDENT OF THE BOARD FOR THE NASSAU HUMANE SOCIETY. HE SAID THAT OUTSIDE OF THIS ANIMAL CONTROL SERVICES AGREEMENT WITH THE CITY, TO PROVIDE, AND THEY WORK ONLY IN THE CITY WITH THE TAXPAYER DOLLARS. THEY ALSO DO OTHER SERVICES WITH OTHER STAFF WHERE THEY RESCUE ANIMALS FROM SHELTERS THAT ARE OVERCROWDED OUTSIDE OF NASSAU COUNTY AT TIMES. THEY WILL OCCASIONALLY, RESCUE AND ANIMAL ON THE SOUTH END OF THE ISLAND. BUT THEY USUALLY GET THEM FROM OVERCROWDED SHELTERS IN EMERGENCY SITUATIONS LIKE HURRICANE KATRINA. THEY ARE PROVIDING RIGHT NOW FOR LOW INCOME OR LOW INCOME FAMILIES, PETFOOD. THEY HAVE A PET FOOD PANTRY AT THE HUMANE SOCIETY. I WANTED TO SHARE THAT. STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL.

>> THANK YOU. >> MOVED TO APPROVE. >> COMMISSIONER ROSS.

>> I'M FINE. >> A MOTION FROM THE BOARD. >> A MOTION TO SECOND. AND

MADAME CLERK CAN YOU CALL THE VOTE. >> COMMISSIONER CHAPMAN.

>> YES. ROSS. >> YES.

COMMISSIONER LEDNOVICH. >> YES. >> COMMISSIONER ROSS.

>> YES. MAYOR MILLER. >> YES.

>> ITEM SIX-POINT TO 6.3I MEAN. THIS IS EMERGENCY MENTAL HEALTH SERVICES FUNDING AND BUDGET

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AMENDMENTS FOR NONPROFITS. CITY MANAGER. >> THIS WAS AN EFFORT LED BY VICE MAYOR KREGER. THE PREVIOUS MEETING ABOUT MENTAL HEALTH NEEDS THROUGHOUT THE COUNTY AS WELL AS ADDITIONAL ASSISTANCE TO ADDRESS DOMESTIC ABUSE.

YOU HAVE BEFORE YOU, RECOMMENDED CONTRIBUTIONS TO BARNABAS CENTER THE STARTING POINT BEHAVIORAL

HEALTH AND MICHAEL'S PLACE. >> VICE MAYOR YOUR RECOMMENDATION.

>> I RECOMMEND APPROVAL. >> A MOTION TO SECOND. >> I SEE NO FURTHER HANDS.

I'M GLAD YOU RECOGNIZE THIS. THANK YOU VERY MUCH SIR. I WILL -- CALLED THE VOTE.

>> VICE MAYOR KREGER. >> CHAPMAN. >> YES.

>> COMMISSIONER ROSS. >> YES. >> COMMISSIONER LEDNOVICH.

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>> MAYOR MILLER. >> YES. >> THANK YOU.

ON THIS SECTION SEVEN, ITEM 7.1. THIS IS CALLED AMENDMENT ELECTRIC CODE.

>> CITY MANAGER. >> I WOULD LET THE CITY ATTORNEY DO THE LEGAL STUFF.

BUT REALLY ALL THIS IS IS A SIMPLE CHANGE TO THE COLD, RIGHT NOW IF SOMEONE GETS NEW ELECTRICAL SERVICES IT SAYS I CAN GRANT A WAIVER AND WE WILL TRANSFERRED THAT ABILITY TO THE

BUILDING OFFICIAL. >> CITY ATTORNEY. >> 2020 -- 12 AND ORDINANCE OF THE CITY ORDINANCE AMENDING SECTION 22 -- 32 THE ELECTRICAL TO ALLOW FOR THE CITY MANAGER TO DELEGATE WAIVER AUTHORITY PROVIDED SEPARABILITY AND A NEW EFFECTIVE DATE.

>>> AND MR. ROSS. YOU. >> MOVED TO APPROVE.

>> I MOVED TO SECOND IT. >> VICE MAYOR I SEE YOUR HAND. >> I JUST WANT TO EMPHASIZE THIS DOESN'T CHANGE THE CODE AT ALL. IT JUST CHANGES THE PROVISIONS WITH US DOING THINGS OF

AUTHORITY. SO I SUPPORT THIS. >> COMMISSIONER ROSS I SEE YOUR

HAND. >> THANK YOU. >> AND, PLEASE CALL THE VOTE.

>> COMMISSIONER ROSS. >> YES. >> COMMISSIONER CHAPMAN.

>> YES. >> COMMISSIONER LEDNOVICH. >> YES.

>> VICE MAYOR KREGER. >> YES. >> MAYOR MILLER.

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>> YES. >> UNDER SECOND -- UNDER A POINT TWO.

THIS IS ZONING MAP AMENDMENT. LAND USE MAP CONFLICTS WORK CITY MANAGER.

>> I THINK YOU ARE STILL MUTED. >> I'M SORRY ABOUT THAT. I AM TRYING TO DO TWO THINGS.

WE USED TO SCREENS BECAUSE OF THIS SO PARDON ME. OKAY.

>> ORDINANCE 2020 -- ZERO THREE AND ORDINANCE OF THE COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF FERNANDINA BEACH FLORIDA AMENDING THE FUTURE LAND USE FOR VARIOUS PROPERTIES THROUGHOUT THE CITY PROVIDED FOR SEPARABILITY AND PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE. PLEASE OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING

MR. MAYOR. >> OPENED THE PUBLIC HEARING AND CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.

YOU ARE RECOGNIZE. >> I THINK EVERYONE, RECEIVED THIS E-MAIL AT 5:00 P.M.

IT WAS FROM THE CITIZEN DAVID SAMPSON REGARDING 2707 STAFFORD AND IT ORIGINALLY BEING ZONE CONSERVATION AND NOW IT IS BEING REZONED TO COMMERCIAL. GIVEN THAT WE HAD A GAVEL FOR PUBLIC HEARING AND BECAUSE WE ARE IN A VIRTUAL MEETING AND IT IS NEAR IMPOSSIBLE TO HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THIS POOLED FROM THE APPROVALS.

THAT IS UNTIL WE GO BACK TO OUR REGULAR MEETINGS AND THE PUBLIC CAN BE HEARD ON THIS ISSUE.

I WILL PUT THE E-MAIL INTO THE RECORD. I DON'T THINK THAT IS AS EFFECTIVE AS HAVING MR. SAMPSON AND I DON'T KNOW OF OTHERS WHO OBJECT TO THIS, TELLING US WHY THIS IS A BAD IDEA. I WOULD LIKE TO ADD THIS TO BE REMOVED FROM THE LIST.

>> ON THE CONSENT AGENDA WILL BE REMOVED. BUT YOU HAVE TO MAKE A MOTION.

SO TO HAVE A VOTE TO POSTPONE? >> I WOULD MAKE THE MOTION TO POSTPONE IT UNTIL THE PUBLIC CAN

BE PRESENT AND HEARD. >> THE MOTION IS TO TABLE. I DON'T THINK WE HAVE A MOTION

TO POSTPONE. >> OKAY THEN TO TABLE. >> I HAVE A MOTION TO TABLE.

COMMISSIONER ROSS. >> OKAY. DO I HAVE A SECOND PERIOD.

>> AND THE MOTION FAILS. >> COMMISSIONER ROSS YOU ARE RECOGNIZED, SIR.

>> OKAY. >> CAN YOU HEAR ME? >> YES.

>> THIS ISSUE WAS BROUGHT UP BY COMMISSIONER LEDNOVICH HAS BEEN DISCUSSED AT THE PAD.

I DISCUSSED IT WITH MR. SAMPSON HIMSELF AND IT HAS TO DO WITH THE PROPERTY THAT IS BEYOND FLETCHER AVENUE BEHIND THE HOTEL. BASICALLY HE IS CORRECTING WHAT HE IS SAYING. THIS WAS MADE, IT WAS ORIGINALLY CONSERVATION PROPERTY BUT NOW IT IS BECOMING COMMERCIAL. THERE ARE TENNIS COURTS THERE. IT HAS BEEN TAPED OVER.

THERE WAS A LOT OF TIME AND EFFORT DOING THIS AT THE PLANNING BOARD DISCUSSING THIS.

I THINK IT IS TIME TO MOVE ON. THIS IS, I APPRECIATE HIS PASSION FOR THIS, I UNDERSTAND HIS POINT, BUT I DON'T THINK THERE ARE TOO MANY PEOPLE WHO ARE MORE PRO- CONSERVATION LAND THAN I AM. BUT THE SINS OF OUR FATHERS, IT WAS DONE YEARS AGO.

AND I THINK TO SAY THAT THIS AREA WHICH IS NOW PAVED OVER, THE TENNIS COURT AND SO FORTH WILL EVER GO BACK. I THINK THE HOTEL ACTED IN GOOD FAITH.

SO I WILL VOTE TO APPROVE. >> LET'S GET A MOTION BEFORE WE GET TO DISCUSSION.

>> I RECOMMEND APPROVAL. >> I WILL SECOND IT. >> A MOTION TO SECOND AND VICE

MAYOR YOUR HAND TO STILL APPEAR. >> I WOULD JUST RECOMMEND APPROVAL.

I AM PUTTING MY HAND DOWN. >> COMMISSIONER LEDNOVICH YOU ARE RECOGNIZED SIR.

>> I'M SORRY MR. MAYOR I DON'T HAVE MY HANDOUT. I NEED TO LOWER IT.

>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >> NO FURTHER DISCUSSIONS OF MADAME CLERK IF YOU COULD CALL

THE ROLL. >> VICE MAYOR KREGER. >> YES.

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>> COMMISSIONER CHAPMAN. >> YES. >> COMMISSIONER ROSS.

>> YES. >> COMMISSIONER LEDNOVICH. NO.

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>> THIS IS ANOTHER MAP AMEN AMENDMENT. CITY ATTORNEY.

>> YOU ARE MUTED MA'AM. >> YOU ARE STILL MUTED. THERE YOU GO.

>> ORDINANCE 2020 -- ZERO FOUR ORDINANCE OF THE CITY ZONING MAP FOR VARIOUS PROPERTIES THROUGHOUT THE CITY PROVIDING FOR SEVERAL ABILITIES AND -- THIS IS THE SECOND READING OF THE ZONING AMENDMENT WHICH THERE IS A QUASIJUDICIAL HEARING HELD WITH THE PUBLIC INVITED AND ABLE TO SPEAK AND CROSS-EXAMINE WITNESSES. THIS IS THE TIME WHERE YOU VOTE TO PASS IT. OR NOT TOO PASSIVE. WE DID TAKE THE EVIDENCE AND I'M NOT SURE IF THE CITY MANAGER RECEIVED COMMENTS. USUALLY WE CLOSE IT IN THE FIRST READING. BUT IT LOOKS LIKE HE HAS NOT. NO LEGAL REASON NOT TO APPROVE IT. THIS IS NOT THE OPEN TO THE PUBLIC HEARING TIME.

>> JUST FOR THE RECORD, -- HE HAS NOT RECEIVED ANY FURTHER -- THANK YOU MA'AM.

>> YOU ARE MUTED SIR. >> MOVED TO APPROVE. >> THANK YOU SIR.

>> SECOND PERIOD. >> I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. >>?

ROSTER HANDLES APPEAR. >> AND CAN WE CALL THE ROLE. >> -- ROLL.

>> COMMISSIONER ROSS. COMMISSIONER ROSS. >> OF NOT DOING IT.

CAN YOU HEAR ME. >> WE CAN NOW. >> YES.

>> COMMISSIONER CHAPMAN. >> YES. >> COMMISSIONER LEDNOVICH.

>> NO. >> KREGER. >> YES.

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>> MAYOR MILLER. >> YES. >> WE ARE ON A .3.

THIS IS HISTORIC DISTRICT BOUNDARY EXPANSION. THIS IS THE OLD NASSAU COUNTY JAIL. IT IS THE ISLAND MUSEUM OF HISTORY.

CITY COMMISSIONER. >> YES IT IS. >> I AM STILL MUTED -- ARACHNOID

AM NOT. >> IT IS REALLY HARD TO LOOK AT TWO THINGS ON THE SCREEN AT THE SAME TIME. I SHOULD HAVE PRINTED THE AGENDA.

>> OKAY. >> ORDINANCE OF THE CITY COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF FERNANDINA BEACH EXPANDING THE BOUNDARY OF THE HISTORIC DISTRICT TO INCLUDE THE OLD NASSAU JAIL BUILDING PROVIDING FOR SEVERE ABILITY AND PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE.

>> COMMISSIONER ROSS. >> MOVED TO APPROVE. >> SECOND.

>> A MOTION TO SECOND. >> MADAME CLERK PLEASE CALL THE VOTE HERE.

>> COMMISSIONER ROSS. >> YES. >> COMMISSIONER LEDNOVICH.

>> YES. >> COMMISSIONER CHAPMAN. >> YES.

>> KREGER. >> YES. >> MAYOR MILLER.

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>> WE ARE ON TO SECTION NINE. ITEM 941 IS A VEREEN THEM -- IS A MARINA.

THIS ITEM IS PLACED ON THE AGENDA AT THE REQUEST OF COMMISSIONER ROSS.

>> I HAVE SEVEN ITEMS. THE FIRST, I WOULD LIKE THE CITY MANAGER TO GIVE A REPORT ON THE FOLLOWING ITEMS. THE BIG GRANT FROM THE NORTHERN EXTENSION, THE INSURANCE, POSSIBLY GETTING INSURANCE FOR THE MARINA. HOW DO YOU WANT ME TOO DO THIS.

>> >> THE FIRST ONE IS THE GRANT FOR THE NORTHERN EXTENSION.

IF YOU CAN TELL US WHERE WE ARE WITH THAT. >> WE WILL ADVISE THE TOURS AND

WE WILL BE PASSING ON THE GRANT THROUGH THE MARINA. >> WE HAVE REQUIRED THIS SO THAT

GRANT WILL BE REJECTED. >> SO TO BE PERFECTLY CLEAR, WE ARE GOING TO ON GRANT OURSELVES

FROM THAT OVULATE PATIENT? >> CORRECT. MY SECOND QUESTION IS, THE MARINA IS CURRENTLY UNINSURED AS YOU KNOW. WE ARE HAVING TROUBLE GETTING REIMBURSED BY FEMA. I WOULD THINK THAT ONE OF THE THINGS WE SHOULD LOOK FOR IS

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INSURANCE OR A DEDUCTIBLE FOR THE MARINA AND I WAS WONDERING WHAT YOUR THOUGHTS WERE.

WHEN I LOOKED INTO THIS YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT THE LARGE DEDUCTIBLE, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT

$200,000 PLUS OR MINUS. >> THAT'S CORRECT, THE INSURANCE CARRIER IS INVESTIGATING BASED ON A CONVERSATION THAT I HAD EARLIER THIS WEEK SAINT AUGUSTINE'S MARINA IS NOT INSURED EITHER AND BASICALLY DUE TO THE HIGH COST OF THE INSURANCE.

BUT WE WILL CONTINUE TO PURSUE COMMERCIAL INSURANCE AND OTHER OPPORTUNITIES TO ENSURE THE

MARINA SPECIFICALLY THE DOCKS. THANK YOU. >> IF YOU CAN GIVE US AN UPDATE

ON THE DOCKS. >> BASED UPON THE SCOPE OF WORK THAT SHOULD BE OUT FOR BIDS BY THE END OF THIS WEEK. AND IF YOU CAN GIVE US AN UPDATE ON THE REPAIR OF THE SEWER LINE.

>> THE REASON WAS IT WAS CONNECTED TO THE WRONG PIPE INSTEAD OF THE PLUMBING IT WAS CONNECTED TO THE FIRE SERVICE LINE THAT HAS BEEN DISCONNECTED, WE ARE WAITING ON THE CONTRACTOR TO INFORM ME AND TO COME IN AND MAKE THAT SPECIAL. IN THE MEANTIME THEY DO HAVE

AUTHORITY TO PUMP IT OUT. >> AND IF YOU CAN GIVE US AN UPDATE ON THE CONSTRUCTION OF

THE MARINA. >> THE DOCKS SECTION, THERE ARE SIX FLOATING DOCK SECTIONS.

THEY HAVE ARRIVED AT THE PORT. THEY ARE BEING STORED AT THE PORT UNTIL WE CAN DEPLOY THEM IN

THE WATER FOR INSTALLATION. >> THE CONTRACTOR IS STANDING BY TO BEGIN DEMOLITION.

AN INSULATION SHOULD BEGIN IN MID-MAY. >> AND AM I CORRECT THAT WILL BE FOLLOWED BY THE FUEL LINE BEING REDONE SO WE CAN HAVE FUELING CAPACITY?

>> CORRECT FEAR NOT ONLY THE FUEL SYSTEM BUT, ON THE BUILDING OF THE NORTHERN DOCKS TO SUPPORT THE FUELING AN ELECTRICAL AND FIRE SYSTEMS. THOSE WILL BE BUILT SUBSEQUENT

TO THAT. >> AND EMMA CORRECT THAT THE CURRENT PROJECTED FINISH DATE FOR THE MARINA WILL BE APPROXIMATELY THE BEGINNING OF JULY OF THIS YEAR.

>> THAT IS CORRECT. >> IF YOU COULD GIVE US A FEMA UPDATE ON WHAT IS GOING ON WITH

FEMA. >> FEMA IS STILL MESSED UP. WE HAVE BEEN IN CONVERSATIONS AND WE HAD A CONFERENCE CALL, FEMA HAS BASED THEIR PRELIMINARY REVIEW UPON A DOCUMENT WHICH THEY SEEM UNABLE TO PRODUCE FOR OUR REVIEW. SO NOT ONLY ARE WE LOOKING FOR A COPY OF THE DOCUMENT, WHICH THE CONTRACTOR SAID THEY NO LONGER HAVE.

NO ONE SEEMS TO HAVE A COPY, UPON WHICH FEMA APPEARS TO BE RELYING, SO WE WILL MOVE FORWARD WITH THAT. THERE WAS A CONFERENCE CALL TENTATIVELY SCHEDULED FOR LATER THIS WEEK THAT HAS BEEN POSTPONED. AGAIN, I WILL CONTINUE TO WORK CLOSELY WITH THE CONGRESS AND HIS STEP THEY BEEN HELPFUL AND WE DID REACH OUT AND ESTABLISH A NEW CONTEXT BECAUSE, AT LEAST ONE OF THE PEOPLE, THE MAYOR, VICE MAYOR KREGER MET WITH IN TALLAHASSEE, THEY NO LONGER WORK FOR THE DEPARTMENT OF EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT, SO I STARTED TO INTRODUCE THE BACKGROUND OF OUR FRUSTRATIONS WITH HER SUCCESSORS AT THE DEPARTMENT OF EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT. SO WE ARE PLUGGING AWAY AND WE WILL SEE WHAT HAPPENS.

>> IT IS STILL FRUSTRATING. >> THANK YOU. >> FINALLY, THE FINAL ITEM I WOULD LIKE TO TALK ABOUT IS THE MARINA DESK. THE CITY IS BEGINNING ITS BUDGETING PROCESS FOR NEXT YEAR END HOW THAT THAT HAVE ACCUMULATED.

IT HAS ACCUMULATED AND WILL NEED TO BE ADDRESSED IN THE BUDGET. THAT IS WHY I BROUGHT THE TOPIC OF. I THINK I DISTRIBUTED TWO DOCUMENTS.

ONE WAS PROBABLY A POOR CHOICE OF WORDS BUT WHAT I INTENDED TO DO, WAS TO COME UP WITH DIFFERENT WAYS -- A WAY TO ADDRESS THE QUESTION THAT COMMISSIONER LEDNOVICH PULLS

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ABOUT ESSENTIAL AND NONESSENTIAL SPENDING. I'VE BROKEN UP INTO CRITICAL FUNCTIONS OF THE CITY. WHAT WE HAVE TO PAY FOR TO SUPPORT THE CRITICAL FUNCTION.

THE INFRASTRUCTURE. OUR OBLIGATION AND HOW THAT AFFECTS THE DEPTH.

AND FINALLY THE DISCRETIONARY FUND. IT WAS JUST A GUIDE TO THINK ABOUT AND OTHERS TO THINK ABOUT THE PRIORITIES FOR SPENDING. AND WHERE THERE MAY BE COST

SAVINGS IN THE NEXT BUDGET CYCLE. >> THE SECOND DOCUMENT IS FOUR PAGES. I WOULD JUST LIKE TO GO OVER IT QUICKLY IT IS AN OVERVIEW.

AND IF THERE'S QUESTIONS TO ANSWER THEM. BUT TO REALLY POSTPONE THE DISCUSSION ON HOW TO TACKLE THE PROBLEM AT A LATER MEETING OR AT THE NEXT MEETING OR AT THE BEGINNING OF THE NEXT MEETING TO COME UP A -- WITH A COURSE OF ACTION.

CANCEL WHAT I DID WAS, I LOOKED INTO WHAT WE OWE THE MARINA AND IT IS ABOUT $15 MILLION.

THAT CHANGED FROM THE CURRENT OBLIGATION. AND THEN I TALKED ABOUT THE FEMA STUDY THAT WAS DONE AND THE CITY MANAGER CAN TALK TO YOU MORE ABOUT THAT BECAUSE THE DETAILS

ARE THERE. >> WHAT I'M TRYING TO LOOK AT IS IF FEMA DOESN'T PAY US ANYTHING WHICH IS A POSSIBILITY, HOPEFULLY NOT A PROBABILITY, WHAT WOULD HAPPEN.

THERE IS ANOTHER -- THERE'S A LOT OF COMPONENTS. THE FIRST IS THE PRE-MATTHEW HURRICANE DEATH AND THAT IS TO $.6 MILLION THAT BEFORE HURRICANE MATTHEW CAME THE CITY WAS OBLIGATED TO DO. AND THE LOAN THAT IS BEING PAID BACK IN IT WILL MATURE IN 2026

AND THERE IS $2.6 MILLION ON THAT NOTE. >> THE SECOND PART OF OUR OBLIGATION WAS TO CREDIT LINES THAT WERE TAKEN OUT TO PAY FOR THE INSINUATED.

THE FIRST ONE IS THE NOTE WHERE WE HAD $6.6 MILLION AVAILABLE TO WHICH WE WERE OBLIGATED TO PAY

BACK $6.000000. >> THE SECOND GRANTED WAS FOR $3 MILLION, AND SAID CREDIT LINE WILL HAVE TO BE PAID ALL NEXT -- THE END OF NEXT JULY, WHICH IS THE NEXT BUDGET YEAR, THAT IS

WHEN THE PRINCIPAL BECOMES DUE. >> THERE IS AN OPTION FOR TEN YEAR MUR STATION ON THAT.

THE OTHER CREDIT LINE IS FOR $3 MILLION OF WHICH WE HAVE SPENT $890,000.

THERE IS AN ADDITIONAL AMOUNT THAT HAS BEEN OBLIGATED AND IT IS LISTED THERE AND THE COMPONENTS. SO THE ANTICIPATED OBLIGATION IS TO $.9 MILLION.

SO, THE THIRD COMPONENT OF OUR DEAD IS THERE HAS BEEN ENTERED FUND TRANSFERS OVER THE YEARS.

$2.3 MILLION IS OWED BACK TO THE WASTEWATER FUND. THERE IS A TEN YEAR LOAN WITH

INTEREST, THAT IS BEING PAID BACK TO THE LOAN EACH YEAR. >> I BELIEVE, THAT WE CANNOT CONTINUE TO SHIFT MONEY BACK AND FORTH BETWEEN THE ENTERPRISE FUND AND THE WASTEWATER AND THE FACILITY FUND AND WE NEED TO STOP DOING THIS PRACTICE AND THE AUDITORS HAVE BASICALLY SAID, WE NEED TO SHOW HOW WE WILL PAY THIS OFF. OR HOW WE WILL WRITE IT ALL.

THAT LEADS TO $3.8 MILLION. COMPONENT NUMBER FIVE, THE CURRENT BUDGETED EXPENDITURES FOR THE MARINA IS ABOUT 800 30,000 DOLLARS. THE BUDGET, I MADE A REVENUE ASSESSMENT. SO AT THE END OF THE YEAR. IF WE CONTINUE THE WAY WE ARE GOING. THAT TAKES INTO ACCOUNT NO FUEL SALES OR PAY FOR INSURANCE,

THERE IS A LOSS OF $372,000 THAT WILL HAVE TO BE MADE UP. >> AT THE END OF THIS I PROPOSED OPTIONS THAT I THOUGHT WE COULD LOOK AT OR CONSIDER. ONE IS WITH THE UTILITY FUND.

ANOTHER ONE IS, BORROWING THE MONEY OVER A 20 YEAR CONSOLIDATION.

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ANOTHER IS ENHANCING MARINA REVENUE. THE BEST YEAR THEY HAD WITH POSITIVE CASH FLOW WHICH -- THERE WAS NO MAINTENANCE THERE. THERE WAS NO DEBT SERVICE AND NO INSURANCE. WE SHOULD AND WILL CONTINUE TO PURSUE OUR FEMA REIMBURSEMENT AND WHATEVER MONEY WE GET BACK FROM THEM AND USE IT TO PAY OFF DEBT.

ANOTHER IS THE GENERAL FUND RESERVE. WE TALKED ABOUT THE REPORT.

AND CONTINUING TO UTILIZE FUTURE LEASES. AND AGAIN, OF AND FINALLY WE

COULD ISSUE A VOTER APPROVED DEBT FOR THE MONEY. >> SO, WHAT I BELIEVE, AND WHAT I THINK IS VIABLE IS TO AGGRESSIVELY PURSUE THE FEMA REIMBURSEMENT AND HOPE FOR THE BEST BUT WE NEED TO PREPARE IT THAT IF WE DON'T GET ANY MONEY, THE SECOND IS TO MAXIMIZE THE MARINA REVENUE, BUT WE ALSO HAVE TO LOOK CLOSELY AT WHETHER WE WILL DO INSURANCE.

WE SHOULD DO BUDGETING FOR THE COST. THE MARINA BY ITSELF, EVEN WITH THE BEST PRODUCTION WILL NOT PAY PRINCIPAL AND INTEREST ON THE NOTE.

THIS COMES TO PASS RIGHT DEPENDING ON THE INTEREST RATE, SOMEWHERE BETWEEN $750,000.1.5 MILLION. YEAR. IF YOU DID IT OVER YEARS.

>> THE SECOND THING -- THE THIRD THING I WOULD LIKE TO CONSIDER IS WRITING OFF THE MONEY OWED TO THE UTILITY FUND AND MAKING A FRESH START WITH THAT. NO LONGER BORROW FROM THE FUND.

>> MANAGEMENT WE DID THAT WE COULD FINANCE THE OTHER $12 MILLION OVER 20 YEARS.

THERE IS A GROUP IN A MEETING I WENT TO, AND I ASKED THEM ABOUT WHAT KIND OF FINANCING IS OUT THERE AND THEY PROPOSE THAT THEY COULD, IF THE GOVERNMENT CAPITAL, PLACEMENT AND NONCERTIFIED OFFERING, THEY WOULD BE WILLING TO, ALMOST $12 MILLION, AT AN INTEREST RATE OF 2.75%. SO THAT COMES TO A LOAN OF ABOUT, $800,000.

YEAR. >> AND, FINALLY, WE NEED TO, I THINK WE NEED TO LOOK AT USING ONE OR FRONT ACTIVITIES AS A WAY TO COME UP WITH FUNDS FOR THE GENERAL FUND TO PAY ANY LOAN THAT WE SHOULD TAKE OFF. THAT IS NOT CONCRETE. THERE ARE A LOT OF QUESTIONS AND DETAILS. I WOULD PROPOSE THAT WE PICK THIS UP AT A LATER MEETING AFTER YOU ALL TALK TO THE CITY MANAGER AND COMPTROLLER. ANY QUESTIONS?

>> COMMISSIONER KREGER YOUR RECOGNIZE. >> THE FIRST ONE, I WANT TO BACK UP MY UNDERSTANDING IS, WE WILL TURN THIS BACK IN WITH A GRANT THAT HAD 1 MILLION PLUS MATCH AND, WHICH IN FACT, THERE ARE NO EXPANSIONS OF THE MARINA CORRECT QUICKSAND CORRECT.

IN ALL LIKELIHOOD BECAUSE THE PURCHASE OF THE PROPERTY ON FRONT STREET WAS EXTENDED FOR THE EXPANSION, I WILL WORK WITH COMPTROLLER TO REMOVE THAT THAT FROM THE MARINA TO THE GENERAL FUND. THAT IS A POSSIBILITY AT THE NEXT BUDGET PREPARATION.

>>> THAT IS THE OTHER THING. WHEN WE MOVED TO THE CALL CENTERS OF CRITICAL AND NONCRITICAL, ALTHOUGH -- THEY MAY BE CRITICAL THAT DOES NOT MEAN YOU BUDGET THEM THE SAME.

AS WE MOVE ON, WITH THE MARINA, IT IS THREE OR FOUR TIMES WE HAVE ASKED TO TRANSFER CONTENT TO MOVE IT OUT OF THE MARINA AND IT SOUNDS LIKE YOU SAID WE WOULD DO THAT.

AND THE OTHER THING IS, EVERY DOLLAR WE CONTINUE TO SPEND, OUT OF THE GENERAL FUND AND OR OUT

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OF THE TRANSFERS WHICH, THEY NOTED LASHER WAS A PROBLEM. IT WILL TAKE AWAY FROM THOSE CRITICAL INFRASTRUCTURES. SO I BELIEVE AS WE MOVE TO THE IMPROVEMENT PLAN WE HAVE TO ADDRESS THE THINGS THAT YOU BROUGHT UP. MY CONCERN IS, I DON'T KNOW WHERE WE WILL GO BUT IT IS NOT GOOD WITH MONEY. IT MAY BE A SERIOUS SHORTFALL.

AND WE WERE JUST MOVING GOOD ON THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN. I WANT TO BE CAREFUL THAT WE

DON'T DEFER EVERYTHING. >> THANK YOU SIR. >> OKAY.

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>> ITEM 9.2. THE BEACHES. THIS WAS PLACED ON THE AGENDA

THROUGH VICE -- KREGER. >> I PUT THIS ON TO FORWARD THE DOCUMENT AND PUT IT ON THE RECORD WHICH COMES FROM THE HAZARDS OF THE BEACH. I WON'T SAY ANYMORE.

WE CAN ALL PULL WHATEVER WE WANT, THE DATA TO SUPPORT IT. I BELIEVE, THAT WE WILL HAVE TO LOOK CLOSELY AT OUR BEACHES AGAIN AND THE COUNTY BEACH IS ON THE AGENDA TOMORROW.

I'M SURE CHIP IS WORKING WITH THE STAFF AND IT WILL COME UP THROUGH WHAT IS THE BEST RESOLUTION. I WANT TO EMPHASIZE THAT OVER 30% OF THE PEOPLE ARE OVER 65-YEARS-OLD AND WE HAVE TO BE CAREFUL WHAT WE DO. AS LONG AS WE HAVE SHELTER IN

PLACE. >> DR. RUSHER RECOGNIZED. >> I WOULD LIKE TO TALK ABOUT, THE MEETING THAT WAS YESTERDAY, ABOUT WHEN TO OPEN THE BEACHES. I WOULD LIKE TO TALK ABOUT THAT ISSUE. HERE IS WHAT I THINK. I THINK EFFECTIVE ON THE 23RD OF MARCH, 2020 AT THE DIRECTION OF THE GOVERNOR, WHICH WAS TO UPHOLD THE CDC GUIDELINES TO MAXIMIZE SOCIAL DISTANCING AND AVOID GATHERINGS, THE FLORIDA TET, CLOSED BOTH THE STATE PARK WHICH CONTAINS BEACHES ON THE NORTH PART OF THE ISLAND AND THE STATE PARK ON THE SOUTHERN PART OF THE ISLAND. THEY WERE CLOSE BECAUSE OF THE COVID-19 VIRUS.

THOSE OCEAN BEACH ACCESS PARKS ARE STILL CLOSE. >> THE CITY AND THE COUNTY COMMISSIONERS CONCURRED WITH THE DECISION AND CLOSE THE REMAINING OCEAN BEACHES WITHIN THEIR RESPECTIVE JURISDICTIONS. THE POLICE CHIEF, THE COUNTY SHERIFF AND THE MEDICAL OFFICERS SUPPORTED THOSE DECISIONS. SINCE THE BEACH CLOSING MANY CITIZENS HAVE PULLS A LEGITIMATE QUESTION WHICH IS WHEN AND UNDER WHAT CIRCUMSTANCES WILL THE BEACHES REOPEN.

THE GOVERNOR AND THE FLORIDA HEALTH DEPARTMENT HAVE FAR GREATER ACCESS TO EXPERTS AND RESEARCH TO DETERMINE WHEN THE BEACHES CAN REOPEN, THEN THE CITY OR NASSAU COUNTY GOVERNMENT. I BELIEVE THERE COULD BE A TASK FORCE TO LOOK AT ONE OF THE ISSUES OF OPENING THE BEACHES IN THE JURISDICTION OF THE STATE PARK.

>> SO WHAT I BELIEVE AND I THINK WE HAVE TO TALK ABOUT THIS IS DOES THIS 80 REOPEN ACCESS AT THE SAME TIME AND WITH THE SAME CONDITIONS AS WITH THE GOVERNOR AND IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE FLORIDA DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH DECIDE IT IS SAFE TO OPEN THE BEACHES ON THE NORTHERN AND SOUTHERN PARTS OF THE ISLAND. I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW YOUR THOUGHTS.

>> LEDNOVICH YOU ARE RECOGNIZED. >> WITH AGREEMENT WITH COMMISSIONER ROSS, AS LONG AS THOSE PARK BEACHES ARE CLOSED, UNTIL THEY ARE OPENED, WE SHOULD FOLLOW THE LEAD OF THE STATE.

UNTIL THE GOVERNOR OPENS THOSE BEACHES I BELIEVE THAT GIVES US, THE GUIDANCE AND THE OPPORTUNITIES THAT COMMISSIONER ROSS SPOKE ABOUT TO OPEN OUR SPIRIT.

>> HERE IS ANOTHER FACTOR WHICH JUST HAPPENED WITHIN THE LAST COUPLE OF DAYS.

NOTE THAT THE GEORGIA GOVERNOR IS OPENING HEALTH CLUBS, BOWLING ALLEYS, MOVIE THEATERS, NAIL

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SALONS, AND ELIMINATING, NOT ELIMINATING SOCIAL DISTANCING BUT WE KNOW WHAT WILL TAKE PLACE. WE WILL HAVE PEOPLE BACK IN FACILITIES, ESPECIALLY THE GYM.

BACK IN THE FACILITIES AND, THE LIKELIHOOD IS THAT THE VIRUS WILL SPREAD.

WE ARE SO CLOSE TO GEORGIA. WE WILL HAVE GEORGIANS AT OUR BEACHES.

SO THAT IS ANOTHER DYNAMIC THAT WE NEED TO TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION WHEN OPENING OUR BEACHES. HOW DO WE DO THAT INTELLIGENTLY, WHILE WE MONITOR WHAT HAPPENS IN

GEORGIA IN LIGHT OF THEIR REOPENING. >>> THANK YOU SIR.

VICE MAYOR KREGER YOU ARE RECOGNIZED. >> I AGREE WITH WHAT CHIP IS SAYING IN TERMS OF THE BEACHES. HERE IS THE INTERESTING THING. THE TASK FORCE WILL COME OUT WITH RECOMMENDATIONS BY THE END OF THE WEEK. INTERESTINGLY ENOUGH THERE WERE NO ENVIRONMENTAL OR HEALTH PEOPLE ON THE COMMITTEE. IT IS PRETTY MUCH A FEW MAYORS.

IT IS AN ECONOMIC KIND OF THING. IT WILL BE INTERESTING TO SEE WHAT THEY COME UP WITH.

I THINK THE STATE PARKS ARE AN ISSUE AND HOW THEY WILL HANDLE IT I DON'T KNOW.

THE MAJORITY OF THE BEACHES IN FLORIDA ARE CLOSE. VERY FEW ARE OPEN.

I CONCUR WITH WHAT MIKE IS SAYING, PEOPLE WILL COME TO GO TO THE BEACH.

PEOPLE DON'T COME TO WALK ON OUR SIDEWALKS. I THINK WE NEED TO WAIT AND SEE WHAT HAPPENS, WE SHOULD KEEP THEM CLOSE. I AM CONCERNED, PEOPLE SAY, OUR NUMBERS ARE GOING UP, WE WERE AT 0. JACKSONVILLE DIDN'T GO UP TODAY BUT OVER THE WEEKEND THEY WENT UP. I THINK WE HAVE TO WAIT AND SEE

WHAT THE TASK FORCE AND THE SCIENTISTS SAY. >>> DR. ROTH YOU ARE RECOGNIZED.

>> NO, SIR. >> COMMISSIONER CHAPMAN. >> MR. CHAPMAN YOU ARE STILL

MUTED. >>> THERE YOU GO. >>> I AGREE WITH COMMISSIONER ROSS I THINK EVERYONE HAS THESE E-MAILS AND NEWS CLIPPINGS OF HOW GREAT EVERYONE IS BEHAVING.

I DON'T WANT TO WAIT UNTIL THE FIRST 90-DEGREE DAY, ESPECIALLY ON THE WEEKEND TO SEE HOW MUCH SOCIAL DISTANCING GETS DONE. I THINK THAT, WE HAVE AN OBLIGATION AS COMMISSIONER KREGER SAID THAT WE ARE NOT INCREASING THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPREAD THIS.

TIME WILL TELL. I THINK IT WAS TELLING THAT THE MAYOR SAID I CAN'T ALWAYS CLOSE THE GAP. I THINK HE IS OVER HIS HEAD. BUT I THINK WE SHOULD KEEP THEM

CLOSE. >> THANK YOU. >> ANYONE ELSE?

>> DR. ROSS. >> I WOULD LIKE TO HEAR WHAT YOU HAVE TO SAY.

>> THAT IS WHY I WAS WAITING FOR YOU TO FINISH DOES THAT CONCLUDE YOUR

PRESENTATION? >> YES, SIR. >> I THINK IT SEEMS LIKE, THERE IS A CONSENSUS TO SEE IF THE GOVERNOR COULD LEAD BY EXAMPLE. WHEN YOU CAN OPEN I WOULD GO

ALONG WITH WHATEVER THE GOVERNOR SAYS. >> I CONCUR WITH THAT AS WELL.

SOMETHING YOU SENT THAT STOOD OUT IS THE GOVERNOR'S OFFICE HAS MORE DATA THAN WE DO.

I THINK IT IS IMPORTANT. I THINK IT IS IMPORTANT THAT THE PUBLIC UNDERSTANDS THE STATE DEPARTMENT IS IN CONSTANT CONTACT WITH THE MEDICAL DIRECTOR AS WELL.

>> I DON'T WANT THE PUBLIC TO CONCEIVE IT BUT THE STATE AS INFORMATION THAT WE DON'T.

I THINK THE LINES OF COMMUNICATION ARE WELL. >> I HAVE NOT SEEN THE LIST OF PEOPLE ON THE TASK FORCE BUT I JUST GLANCED UP AS IT WENT BY. I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH OF THAT WILL BE BASED ON PUBLIC DISTANCING. BUT, I THINK WE ALL AGREED THE PROBLEM HERE IN THE FACT THAT WE HAVE SO MUCH ON ONE STRETCH OF BEACH.

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WE HAVE US AND THE COUNTY IN THE MIDDLE. IF THE STATE WERE TO OPEN UP IT WOULD BE PROBLEMATIC FOR US TO MAINTAIN THAT THEY DON'T ENTER INTO THE CITY BEACHES.

BUT IF THIS WERE TO OPEN UP AND WE DIDN'T COME UP MY CONCERN WOULD BE EVERYONE WOULD GO TO THAT AREA AND OUT WE ARE CONVINCING PEOPLE IN A SMALL AREA.

IN MY OWN OPINION I THINK IF THE STATE OPENS UP WE HAVE TO. I DON'T KNOW DR. ROSS IF YOU

CONCUR WITH THAT OR NOT. >>, YES, I WOULD. >> THAT IS THE KEY FOR ME.

>> WE FOLLOW STATE GUIDELINES WITH THIS. IT STARTS WITH THE GOVERNOR AND COMES DOWN TO US. WHETHER WE THINK WHAT THEY ARE DOING IS RIGHT OR WRONG, I DON'T THINK WE SHOULD BASE OUR DECISIONS ON WHAT ANOTHER CITY MAY BE DOING.

I AGREE, WE CAN ALMOST SEE GEORGIA OUT OF THIS WINDOW. THOUGH THEY ARE SERIOUSLY RELAXING -- RELAXING AND OUR NUMBERS ARE GOOD PAIR, CITIZENS ARE DOING THE RIGHT THING.

WE ARE DOING SO WELL AND WE ARE FOLLOWING THE RECOMMENDATIONS OF OUR HEALTH OFFICIALS.

I DON'T WANT TO MESS WITH THAT AT ALL. >> WHILE I GET THE PASSION FOR PEOPLE HAVE TO GO TO THE BEACH, I MAINTAIN THAT WE SHOULD CONSIDER WAITING UNTIL WE HAVE

MORE DATA. I CONCUR WITH YOU DR. ROSS. >> YOUR HAND IS STILL OF.

>> YOUR HAND IS UP BUT YOU ARE MUTED. CITY ATTORNEY.

>> MR. ROSS YOU ARE MUTED. >> I HAVE YOU NOW. >> THANK YOU.

>> I AM FINE. >> CITY ATTORNEY? >> I RAISED MY HAND JUST TUESDAY IF YOU WANTED ME TOO TALK ABOUT THE FEDERAL REPORT THAT CAME OUT.

FROM A LEGAL STANDPOINT I HAVE BEEN PART OF THESE DISCUSSIONS BECAUSE THERE IS LEGAL ACCESS ISSUES. THESE ARE PUBLIC BEACHES AND WE HAVE PRIVATE PROPERTY OWNERS WHO

OWN PART OF WHICH BEACH THAT IS BEING OWNED BY THE PUBLIC. >> JUST RECENTLY, THE LAWSUIT WHICH WAS A REQUEST FOR AN INJUNCTION WHICH IS AN EMERGENCY LAWSUIT YOU CAN FILE TO BE HEARD RIGHT AWAY. A FEW PROPERTY OWNERS IN THE PENSACOLA AREA THEY FILED AN INJUNCTION AND BASICALLY DEMANDED THEIR CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS TO ACCESS THEIR PRIVATE PROPERTY. AND THE FEDERAL COURT JUDGE DID NOT AGREE WITH THEM AND CITED TO CLOSE THE BEACHES INCLUDING PARTS OF THE STAND -- ACCENT THAT ARE PRIVATELY OWNED.

THEY FOUND BOTH PRIVATE PROPERTY OWNERS COULD NOT ACCESS THAT PART OF THEIR PROPERTY BECAUSE OF THE COVID-19 THAT IS GOING ON RIGHT NOW. FROM A LEGAL STANDPOINT THAT IS AN ORDER THAT UPHOLDS WHAT YOU ARE DOING AND WE HAVE HAD QUESTIONS IN THE POLICE DEPARTMENT ABOUT AND WHAT ENDED UP ON MY DESK WAS THEY WERE TRYING TO ASSERT THEIR RIGHTS EVEN TO ACCESS THE SAND. WE HAVE ASKED THEM TO LEAVE. WE HAVE HAD A COURT ORDER BEHIND US NOW. IT IS BRAND-NEW. THE LAWSUIT WAS FILED ON APRIL 6

SO THE LAWSUIT JUST CAME OUT. >> SO YOU ARE SAYING, THIS IS SOMETHING THAT HAPPENED A FEW YEARS AGO. IF YOU HAVE PRIVATE PROPERTY THAT TOUCHES THE BEACH LINE, AND YOUR PROPERTY LINE, UNDER THIS ORDER, WE ARE FORCING PRIVATE RESIDENCE NOT TO GO INTO THEIR BACKYARD ON THE SAND. CORRECT. THAT IS WHAT I AM SAYING.

I WOULD NOT LOOK AT THE DOCTORING AND THE BILL THAT WAS PASSED A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO.

THAT IS NOT A CONCERN.& LET'S SAY YOU DID NOT EVEN HAVE, IF IT IS NOT ON YOUR DECK OR WALK OVER, YOU ARE NOT ALLOWED ON THE SAND. SO THAT IS THE LIMIT WHERE

PRIVATE PROPERTY OWNERS CAN GO. >> OKAY. >> DOES ANYONE HAVE QUESTIONS

REX. >> YES, I READ THAT. I THINK WHAT THE JUDGE SAID IS

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THIS IS A NATIONAL EMERGENCY AND THE COUNTY HAS THE AUTHORITY. >> ANYONE ELSE.

>> GREAT. CITY ATTORNEY AGAINST YOU WILL BE AVAILABLE IF THE PUBLIC HAS

ANY QUESTIONS. >> ABSOLUTELY. MY PHONE NUMBER AND E-MAIL

NUMBER -- MY E-MAIL IS ON THE CITY WEBSITE. >> THE CONCLUDE FOR YOU MR.

MR. ROSS? >> -- DOES THAT CONCLUDE FOR YOU MR. ROSS?

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>> THANK YOU. >> SO ON ITEM 9.3. LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE.

DR. YOU HAVE THE FLOOR. >> THIS WAS TO BE ON THE AGENDA WEEKS AGO BUT, IT IS SOMETHING I WOULD LIKE TO GET GOING. IT HAS TO DO WITH WETLAND BUFFERS WHICH IS PROTECTING THE CITIES WETLAND SPIRIT VARIOUS ISSUES AND CONTROVERSIES CONSIDERING THE EFFECTIVENESS OF THE WIDTH OF THE REQUIREMENTS THAT HAVE COME TO LIGHT DURING THE NEW PROJECT.

AND MOST RECENTLY WITH THE CHIPPER PRODUCT. TO IMPROVE THE QUALITY OF THE PRODUCTION OF OUR WETLANDS WHICH ARE ESSENTIAL FOR THE ISLANDS I WOULD ASK THE COMMISSIONER FORWARD THIS TO THE STAFF AND PLANNING ADVISORY FOR THEIR STUDY AND RECOMMENDATION.

>> SOME OF THE ISSUES THAT SHOULD BE ADDRESSED IS THE BENEFITS AND CONSEQUENCES OF VARIOUS WETLAND BUFFERS AND HOW EFFECTIVE THEY ARE PROTECTING THE WETLANDS.

HOW MANY PARTIALS AND THE CITY AND THE ACREAGE IN THE CITY IT WOULD IMPACT HER THE BENEFITS OF THE IMPACT THAT THIS WILL ADDRESS. ANY PROPERTY RIGHTS ISSUES AND ANY PERTINENT ISSUES THAT ARISE. FINALLY I WOULD LIKE TO SUGGEST IF WE HAVE A CONSENSUS THAT THIS WOULD BE ADDRESSED AND SENT TO THEM AFTER ANY ESTABLISH PRIORITIES HAVE BEEN ADDRESSED BY STAFF. IN OTHER WORDS, PUT THIS IN LINE FOR CONSIDERATION BY THE STAFF

AND PAD AS THEY SEE FIT IN THE FUTURE. >> THANK YOU KREGER?

>> YES, I SENT AN E-MAIL SPECIFICALLY ASKING ABOUT INFORMATION.

I WOULD HAVE NO PROBLEM PUTTING THAT IN. >> THANK YOU, SIR.

>> ANYONE ELSE. >> ARE YOU GOOD, SIR? >>

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>> YES. >> ON TO CITY MANAGER REPORT. >> THANK YOU MR. MAYOR.

THANK YOU COMMISSIONERS FOR YOUR SUPPORT DURING THIS VIRTUAL TIME.

UNDER THE PROVISIONS OF THE RECENTLY ADOPTED RESOLUTIONS 2025, PAYMENTS TO NASSAU COUNTY AND THE SALVATION ARMY HAVE BEEN DELIVERED BY THE MAYOR. AND ALSO AS PART OF THAT RESOLUTION, CORRESPONDENCE REQUESTING ADDITIONAL SUPPORT FOR THE COUNTY OFFICES AND STAFF SAID THEY HAVE MADE SIGNIFICANT FINANCIAL CONTRIBUTIONS TO SEVERAL PLACES.

EARLIER TODAY AT THE INVITATION OF THE COUNTY DIRECTOR AND EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT, THE CHIEFS PARTICIPATED IN AN INAUGURAL RECOVERY CONFERENCE CALL THIS AFTERNOON.

MANY LOCAL DECISIONS WILL BE BASED ON THE GOVERNOR'S DECISION RELATED TO HIS EXISTING

EXECUTIVE ORDER WHICH ARE TO EXPIRE AT THE END OF THE MONTH. >> AS INDICATED ON SEVERAL PROJECTS IN MY NOTES, MOVING FORWARD THE SIDEWALK HAS BEEN COMPLETED.

WORK CONTINUES, YOU SHOULD HAVE BEFORE YOU AT THE NEXT AGENDA, WORK ON THE PLAN.

AND THE BOARDWALK CONTINUES AT THE BEACH 90% COMPLETED. THE BEACH WALK BEFORE THAT, WILL RECEIVE STATE FUNDING AND IT ALL SHOULD BE COMPLETED. THE PARK PROJECT, WITH THE

PITCHFORK THAT ARE SCHEDULED TO BE PUBLISHED THIS WEEK. >> FARM SHARE, WHICH CONDUCTED THEIR EVENT LAST WEEKEND, OR A WEEKEND AGO, THEY SERVICE OVER 200 CARS AND DELIVERED 250 BAGS OF FOOD. THE BERNADINO MARKETPLACE KNOWN AS THE FARMERS MARKET WAS

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CONDUCTED LAST WEEKEND AT THEIR ALTERNATIVE SITE ON LIME STREET. IT WAS AN OVERWHELMING BUT VERY GOOD SUCCESS. THEY DID HAVE SOME TRAFFIC FLOW ISSUES.

THE PROPRIETORS OF THE MARKET, THE DOCTORS HAVE SPOKE FURTHER WITH THE OWNER OF THE PROPERTY, AND THEY HAVE SQUARED AWAY MANY OF THE TRAFFIC FLOW ISSUES. THE MARKET WILL CONTINUE FOR THE FORESEEABLE FUTURE. AT LEAST THROUGH THE MONTH OF MAY.

WE WILL CONTINUE TO MONITOR THAT AND I THINK THE COMMUNITY FOR THAT.

>> ALSO ON THE NEXT CITY COMMISSION AGENDA, THROUGH THE EFFORTS OF THE LAND TRUST THERE WILL BE TWO ADDITIONAL PARCELS PRESENTED TO THE COMMISSION FOR REVIEW FOR PURCHASE.

THESE PARCELS ARE BETWEEN THE GREENWAY AND FLETCHER AVENUE. SO THERE WILL BE TWO PARCELS FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION. AND PENDING ANY QUESTIONS THAT IS ALL I HAVE THIS EVENING.

>> THANK YOU SIR. >> LEDNOVICH. >> THANK YOU, THIS MAY APPEAR JUST A QUESTION FOR THE MAYOR. WILL THE FUNDS BE MATCHED WITH THE FINAL TALLY?

>> THAT IS STILL OPEN. DONATIONS ARE ACCEPTABLE THROUGH AUGUST 15.

THAT IS ON THE FOREFRONT OF PEOPLE'S MIND BUT THEY ARE ACCEPTED AND ABLE TO BE MATCHED.

THE CURRENT TALLY IS $17,000. THE CITY IS ENTERING INTO CONVERSATIONS GROUP OF THIRD-PARTY WITH THE DONOR WHO REMAINS ANONYMOUS, BUT WE HAVE HAD DISCUSSIONS WITH PEOPLE AND THEIR FUNDRAISING EFFORTS, AND AS GRACIOUS AS THEIR DONATION IS, IS CAUSING CONFUSION AS TO WHO SHOULD PEOPLE DONATE TO. WE WILL ENTER INTO CONVERSATIONS WITH THE DONOR'S ATTORNEY ON HOW WE CAN MAXIMIZE THE EFFORT OF THE LAND TRUST FUNDRAISING EFFORTS IN THE DESIRE OF THE ANONYMOUS DONOR. THE DONATIONS ARE STILL ACCEPTABLE AT THE DONOR'S

REQUEST UNTIL AUGUST 15. >>> HAVE WE MADE A DETERMINATION ON THE TAX THAT IS FOR THOSE

DONATIONS. I KNOW YOU WERE WORKING ON THAT. >> THEY ARE AUDITORS.

I BELIEVE THEY REVIEWED SOME IRS DOCUMENTS AND LOOKS LIKE WE ARE LED TO BELIEVE, AND IF IT IS FOR A PUBLIC PURPOSE, THEY CAN BE CONSIDERED A TAX DEDUCTIBLE DONATION.

WE CAN ALWAYS GO BACK, WE HAVE UNTIL THE AT -- END OF THE YEAR TO ADVISE PEOPLE.

WE ARE WAITING ON THE OFFICIAL WORD. WE ARE BEING LED TO BELIEVE THEY WILL BE ACCEPTABLE TAX DONATIONS IF THEY ARE GIVEN TO THE CITY AS LONG AS IT IS A TRUE PUBLIC PURPOSE. WE JUST HAVE TO SEE IF THERE IS A TECHNICAL DEFINITION OF PUBLIC

PURPOSE. >> THANK YOU. >> DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING TO ADD

TO THAT? >> NO. >> DID I READ THAT MR. HUSSMAN

GOT AN AWARD IN THE JOURNAL? >> I DIDN'T SEE THAT. >> DID ANYONE ELSE SEE THAT? IS AWARDED FOR HIS EFFORTS. I WANTED TO CONGRATULATE HIM. HE IS A GREAT GUY.

>> CONGRATULATIONS ON THAT. >> ANYTHING ELSE QUICK STAND CITY ATTORNEY.

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>> I WOULD LIKE TO CHAT AND SEE IF YOU HAVE ANY OBJECTIONS TO THE MAY 5 MEETING.

WE, AND I KNOW YOU HAVE TO SPEAK WITH CITIZENS WHO ARE CURIOUS ABOUT OTHER BOARD MEETINGS AND WHETHER WE SHOULD BE CONDUCTING OTHER BOARD MEETINGS VIRTUALLY, CERTAINLY NOT YET IN PERSON.

SO, I HAVE SEEN NOW WE HAVE WAITED, IT HAS BEEN A MONTH SINCE THE GOVERNOR ISSUED HIS ORDERS ABOUT US HAVING THE CITY COMMISSION MEETING. I WAS NOT WILLING TO SAY OTHER BOARDS COULD DO THAT. I WANTED TO SEE WHAT OTHER CITIES WERE DOING AND WHAT

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OTHERS WERE GOING TO SAY AND IF THE EXECUTIVE ORDER WOULD BE AMENDED.

HE HAS NOT DONE THAT. OTHER CITIES HAVE EXTENDED VIRTUAL MEETINGS TO THEIR ADVISORY BOARD. SOME HAVE DONE QUASI- JUDICIAL HEARINGS ALLOWING THE PUBLIC TO SPEAK AND AFFECTED PARTIES TO DO CROSS EXAMINATIONS. WE HAVE THE TECHNOLOGY.

I DON'T THINK WE CAN DENY THAT. THE CLOSEST CITY TO OTHERS IS THINK AUGUSTINE HAVE ADOPTED RULES AND PROCEDURE TO PUT THE PUBLIC ON NOTICE ON WHAT TO EXPECT AND HOW TO PARTICIPATE WITH PUBLIC COMMENTS AND EVEN PUTTING EVIDENCE INTO THE RECORD.

WITHOUT YOUR OBJECTION OR DEVELOP MAJORITY OF YOUR OBJECTION, I WOULD LIKE TO PUT SOME DRAFT RULES INTO PROCEDURE TO DO THAT AND CONSIDER HAVING OTHER MEETINGS ONLY IF THE CITY MANAGER WILL QUERY THE DEPARTMENT DIRECTORS. IT NEEDS TO BE BUSINESS THAT IS MOVING ALONG. THERE'S A LOT OF PEOPLE, THAT IF THEY HAVE APPLICATIONS PENDING, WE KNOW DEVELOPERS, LIKE THEY ARE WAITING TO GET THEIR SECOND APPROVAL THROUGH SO THEY CAN PUT THE LOTS UP FOR SALE. SO, THE HDC. THESE ARE HOMEOWNERS.

THEY ARE TRYING TO DO PROJECTS ON THEIR HOME. THOSE ARE QUASIJUDICIAL HEARINGS. NONE OF THOSE PROJECTS CAN MOVE FORWARD AND WE HAVE RECEIVED CALLS ON WHEN CAN WE GET THIS GOING. I HAVE ONE GENTLEMAN, HE IS NOT REPRESENTED BY AN ATTORNEY, HE WANTS TO GET HIS HOUSE PROJECT DONE AND HE CAN'T BE HEARD UNTIL JUNE. I WANT TO SAY WE CAN BE HEARD IN MAY.

WITH THE PENDING APPLICATIONS. I WANT TO HEAR WHAT YOU THINK ABOUT THAT?

>> KREGER. >> I THINK WE NEED TO MOVE FORWARD.

I SENT AN E-MAIL AFTER THE WEBINAR. ONE CITY HAS USED VARIOUS TECHNOLOGY PLATFORMS AND ACTUALLY HAD FULL PARTICIPATION. I THINK WE HAVE TO MOVE AHEAD.

SO WHATEVER IT TAKES. BY MAY, HOPEFULLY WE WILL BE SITTING BACK DOWN.

>>> COMMISSIONER LEDNOVICH. >> SO THE QUESTION WOULD BE QUASIJUDICIAL HEARINGS, HOW WILL WE TAKE POST -- PUBLIC TESTIMONY IN A VIRTUAL MEETING USING THIS PLATFORM.

>> WILL THE CITY OF MIAMI IS DOING IT. SAINT AUGUSTINE IS DOING IT.

I DIDN'T PUT THE RULES OUT IN FRONT OF YOU. I WILL HAVE THAT WAY BEFORE THE MAY 5 MEETING TO REVIEW. I HAVE NOT FINALIZED MY THOUGHTS.

THERE ARE SOME THAT HAVE DUAL PARTICIPATION. THE PROBLEM IS THE ORGANIZERS CAN MEET THEM. THAT IS THE EASIEST WAY. BUT PROBABLY DIFFICULT.

THE SECOND IS THERE IS A PHONE CALL LIKE A PHONE IN WHERE YOUR COMMENTS CAN BE HEARD THROUGH THE TELEPHONE AND SPEAKER SYSTEM. I DON'T KNOW IF WE CAN DO THAT.

SO TONIGHT WHEN I AM ASKING, ARE YOU WILLING TO CONSIDER IT ON THE MAY 5 AGENDA WITH ALL OF THAT WRAPPED UP AND DRAFTED. CAN YOU REVIEW IT. I HAVEN'T FINALIZED MY THOUGHTS.

I JUST KNEW WE HAD A MEETING. >> WE KNEW WHAT WOULD HAPPEN. I DON'T MEAN TO LEAVE YOU HANGING. THERE ARE PHONES, THERE IS FACEBOOK.

WE HAVE A FACEBOOK PAGE OR A FACEBOOK CHAT. THERE ARE PARTICIPATIONS IN ZOOM. THERE'S A NUMBER OF WAYS THEY CAN PARTICIPATE.

THEY CAN PARTICIPATE WITH THE CITY AND THE APPLICANT. >> MY SECOND QUESTION WOULD BE, MY CONCERN WOULD BE ANY APPEAL, FROM SOMEONE WHO WERE NOT INFORMED IT WAS PUBLIC.

>> IT STYMIES THEIR ABILITY TO MAKE THEIR APPOINTMENT BECAUSE THEY WERE NOT THERE IN PERSON IN FRONT OF THE GOVERNING BODY THAT THERE ARGUMENT WON'T BE AS EFFECTIVE AS IT WOULD BE IN

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PERSON. IT IS NOT ONLY CAN WE DO IT LEGALLY, BUT DOES IT OPEN IT UP

FOR AN APPELLATE PROCESS WHICH WE ARE VULNERABLE. >> THANK YOU FOR ASKING.

PART OF THE PROCESS AND PROCEDURES, ANY APPLICANT THAT ONCE THEY ARE LIKE JUDICIAL APPLICATION TO MOVE FORWARD WOULD HAVE TO -- IN SAINT AUGUSTINE AND OTHER PLACES, THEY HAVE THE APPLICANT SIGN IN INDEMNIFICATION AND A RELEASE, TO COVER THE CITY AND ATTORNEY

FEES SHOULD THEY CHOOSE TO MOVE FORWARD. >> SO, I THOUGHT OF THE WORST CASE SCENARIO. SURE I WOULD SIGN MY NAME. IT WOULD BE JOB PROPERTY OWNER.

THE CITY WOULD STILL GET BROUGHT INTO THE LAWSUIT. THE INDEMNIFICATION COMES UP WHEN YOU SAY YOU NEED TO HIRE ATTORNEYS. BUT I DON'T HAVE THE MONEY TO DO THAT AND I THOUGHT OF THAT. THAT PART IS A SMALL RISK. IT IS A SMALL RISK TO THE CITY BUT WE WOULD HAVE RELEASES. SO CERTAINLY, WE WILL BE COVERED.

>> BECAUSE THE APPEAL. WHICH IS ONLY 30 DAYS. SO IT'S A VERY SHORT TIME THAT THE RISK IS THERE. IT IS NOT LIKE A LYNN JURY #INJURY LAWSUIT.

IT'S ONLY 30 DAYS. >> SO TO BE CLEAR, WE WOULD NOT FORCE ANYONE TO HAVE THEIR CASE

HEARD. >> ABSOLUTELY NOT. >> THANK YOU.

>> MR. CHAPMAN YOU ARE RECOGNIZED. >> IT SOUNDS LIKE YOU HAVE LOOKED INTO THIS. I WOULD ENCOURAGE YOU TO KEEP GOING.

THIS COULD BE OUR FUTURE FOR A WILD. IT WILL BE INTERESTING TO SEE.

IT WILL SEE -- IT WILL BE INTERESTING TO SEE HOW OTHER COMMUNITIES ARE HANDLING THIS.

>> DR. ROSS. >> THESE ARE EXTRAORDINARY TIMES.

WHAT'S GOING ON, IS SORT OF BEING MADE AS WE GO ON. NOTHING LIKE THIS HAS HAPPENED BEFORE. I AM NOT QUITE AS OPTIMISTIC. I THINK THIS KIND OF THE MEETING WILL GO ON FOR MAY BE MONTHS OR YEARS. SO, I THINK WE NEED TO BEGIN MOVING IN THAT GENERAL DIRECTION OF MOVING ON. SO YES.

CAN. >> MAYOR. >> THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR SUPPORT. OBVIOUSLY IF WE HAD ANY VIRTUAL MEETINGS AT ANY TIME, AND AS POLICYMAKERS, IF THERE WAS ANY POINT YOU WANT TO PULL THE PLUG IS NOT LIKE ONCE WE GET THIS GOING AND WE ALLOW SOME VIRTUAL MEETINGS AND WE SAY THIS IS NOT WORKING.

AND I ENCOURAGE YOU TO PERSISTENT PAIN IN THE PROCESS. I WILL HAVE A TEMPLATE FOR YOU TO LOOK AT. I WILL GET THAT OUT TO YOU AS SOON AS I CAN.

I WON'T MAKE YOU WAIT UNTIL THE AGENDA IS PUBLISHED. >> ALSO, FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION, WE WILL LOOK AT WHAT THE DEPARTMENTS ARE DOING AND AGAIN, IT WON'T BE FULL AGENDAS LIKE MR. CHAPMAN YOU BROUGHT UP PROPERTY OWNERS OR APPLICANTS MAY NOT WANT THEIR CASE HEARD.

ONE THING WE WILL DO IS FORGO, FOR A WHILE CODE ENFORCEMENT. WE WON'T HAMMER PEOPLE WITH FINES. A LOT OF TIMES THOSE ARE IN WHAT WE CALL THE RESPONDENT WHO GOT A NOTICE OF VIOLATION AND THE HEARING DOESN'T SHOW, I WOULDN'T HAVE A QUASIJUDICIAL HEARING WITHOUT THE RESPONDENT THERE AND GET ISSUED FINES. SO WE WILL FORGO THOSE UNTIL WE CAN GET BACK OR THERE IS SOME OTHER LEGAL SOLUTION. THANK YOU.

>>> EVERYONE GOOD. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >> CITY CLERK.

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>> THANK YOU MAYOR. DO YOU WANT TO COME OVER HERE SO YOU CAN GET ON THE SCREEN.

>> NO THANK YOU. >> COMMISSIONERS ARE REMINDED TO COMPLETE THE FLORIDA ETHICS ANNUAL TRAINING PRIOR TO COMPLETING -- WHICH IS JULY 1. I SENT AN E-MAIL THIS AFTERNOON WITH LINKS TO COMPLETE THE TRAINING. THERE WAS ONE PROVIDED BY THE LEGAL DEPARTMENT PERTAINING TO COVID-19. ALSO CONGRATULATIONS ON THE

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PETITION REQUIREMENTS. >> THANK YOU. >>> DR. ROSS.

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>> I DON'T HAVE MUCH TO SAY EXCEPT THESE ARE EXTRAORDINARY TIMES AND THERE ARE A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO ARE HURTING. AND I THINK, I THINK ONE NOVEL STARTED OFF WITH IT IS THE BEST

OF TIMES IT IS THE WORST OF TIMES. >> MANY PEOPLE ARE UNEMPLOYED, THINGS ARE GOING WRONG FOR A LOT OF PEOPLE. BUT IN SOME WAYS, IT IS THE BEST OF TIMES BECAUSE, I WATCH A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO REACH OUT TO OTHERS AND HELP THEM.

AND I HOPE WE CAN ALL WORK TOGETHER TO GET THROUGH THIS. THANK YOU.

>> COMMISSIONER CHAPMAN. >> YOU ARE MUTED SIR. >> I HAD THE PLEASURE OF PARTICIPATING WITH -- LIKE THE CITY MANAGER SAID THEY SERVED OVER 200 BUT THERE WERE MORE THAN 200 FAMILIES THAT WERE SERVICE. THE MOST INTERESTING THING OF THE DAY HAPPENED IN THE MIDDLE OF THE DAY WHERE ONE INDIVIDUAL WAS BASICALLY CREATING A DISTURBANCE. THEY HAD TO CALL THE POLICE. AFTER IT WAS OVER I WAS SPEAKING TO THEM AND SAID THIS GENTLEMAN DOES HAVE MENTAL HEALTH ISSUES AND THE SAD PART IS, THERE IS NOTHING THEY CAN DO. HE HAS GOTTEN SEVERAL TRESPASSING NOTICES.

IF THEY ARREST HIM HE'S OUT TOMORROW. >> THESE ARE DIFFICULT TIMES.

A LOT OF TIMES WITH LAW ENFORCEMENT THEIR HANDS ARE TIED.

>> MY WIFE AND I HAVE BEEN HELPING OUT AT COUNSELING AGENCIES.

I HAD THE PHONE OF UNLOADING TEN PALLETS OF FROZEN MEALS THAT WILL BE DISTRIBUTED WE THEN UNLOADED 36 PALLETS OF BOXES BECAUSE THEY HAVE TO BE REEBOKS. THEY ARE PUTTING THEIR EFFORTS AND. AND FINALLY, I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU TO EVERYONE WHO IS INVOLVED ON THE FRONT LINES FROM THE POLICE TO THE MEDICAL PEOPLE. TO THE GROCERY STORE CLERKS.

THANK YOU ALL FOR RISING TO THE OCCASION AND HELPING US TO KEEP THINGS AS NORMAL AS POSSIBLE.

>> THANK YOU. >> COMMISSIONERS LEDNOVICH. >> THANK YOU MR. MAYOR.

TO ECHO WHAT EVERYONE ELSE HAS SAID. SOMETIMES YOU KNOW WHAT YOU KNOW. MY EYES WERE VERY WIDE OPEN THIS WEEKEND, WHEN I LOOKED AT THE NEW YORK TIMES MAGAZINE AND THEY HAD A TUTORIAL SECTION IN WHICH THEY SHOWED HOSPITALS, TREATING COVID-19 PATIENTS. WHEN I DID NOT REALIZE WAS, THEY WERE WORKING ON A PATIENT AND THERE WERE 11 STAFF MAKERS IN THE ROOM. WE THINK OF DOCTORS AND NURSES WERE ONE OR TWO PEOPLE BUT THERE WERE 11 PEOPLE IN THAT ROOM WORKING ON THAT PATIENT.

WHEN YOU THINK OF THE NUMBER OF PATIENTS WE HAVE HAD IN THE UNITED STATES, HOW HARD THESE PEOPLE ARE WORKING, THAT IS AMAZING. THANK YOU FOR TO THE WORKERS, THE FIRST RESPONDERS, OUR VOLUNTEERS LIKE COMMISSIONER CHAPMAN.

IT WAS WONDERFUL TO SEE YOU AT FARMERS MARKET. I WAS SKEPTICAL HOW THIS WOULD WORK, ALL OF THE CARS DRIVING THROUGH, BUT IT WAS PRETTY NEAT TO WATCH.

AND DAVE GAVE ME A FEELING OF A LITTLE RETURN TO NORMALCY. IT WASN'T THAT MUCH BUT IT WAS

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NICE TO SEE PEOPLE GETTING BACK OUT. SO JUST WELL WISHES TO EVERYONE.

PATIENTS, IT IS TOUGH BEING ISOLATED. WE ARE ON OUR SEVENTH WEEK.

I HAVE NOTICED IN E-MAILS A TONE OF FRUSTRATION. SOME TONE OF AGITATION.

WE NEED TO TAKE CARE OF EACH OTHER AND LOVE ONE ANOTHER. IF SOMEONE NEEDS SOMETHING

PROVIDE FOR THAT NEED. THEY WELD EVERYONE. >> THANK YOU EVERYONE.

>> VICE MAYOR. >> ON SATURDAY I GOT A CALL FROM DALE WHO WAS INFORMED DALE WITH PHIL. THEY INFORMED ME THAT HE TALKED TO MARK AND THAT I HAD BEEN WORKING ON THE RESOLUTION FOR MENTAL HEALTH. I GOT A CALL FROM MARK AND AS A RESULT THEY ADVANCE THEIR FOUNDATION GAVE THEM $45,000 TO STARTING.AND THEY GAVE SOME TO

BONAVENTURE. >> I GOT AN E-MAIL THIS EVENING, THEY ASKED TO MENTIONED THAT THEY GAVE $50,000 OF A MATCH TO THE BARNABAS TO WORK ON VARIOUS PROGRAMS. AND I KNOW THESE AGENCIES ARE DOING WELL ON INDIVIDUAL DONATIONS.

IT SHOWS A LOT ABOUT THE COMMUNITY. IT IS NICE TO SEE.

I AM USUALLY OUT BUT I DO RUN AND WALK. I SEE LOTS OF PEOPLE, SOCIAL DISTANCING. I WORK -- I WALK ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE STREET.

EVERYONE IS POLITE AND IN IT TOGETHER. THIS IS A NICE COMMUNITY TO BE

HERE. >> THANK YOU, SIR. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH GENTLEMEN. SO, AS WE HEARD ABOUT THE GOVERNOR'S TASK FORCE.

I THINK FRIDAY WILL BE A BIG WE WILL NOT KNOW EXACTLY WHAT'S HAPPENING BUT WE WILL HAVE A GOOD INDICATION. WE TURN OUR EYES TO TALLAHASSEE DURING THIS SITUATION.

IT SOUNDS LIKE FROM ALL INDICATIONS THAT FRIDAY WE SHOULD HAVE SOME MORE LIGHT ABOUT THE REOPENING AND WHAT THE TIMELINE MAY BE OR NOT BE. STAY TUNED FOR THAT.

EVERYONE NEEDS TO KNOW THE END DATE. WE TALKED ABOUT HELP THIS WILL AND. IT WON'T LAST FOREVER. BUT KNOWING WHEN WILL BE GOOD FOR ALL OF US. NOT ONLY FINANCIALLY BUT EMOTIONALLY.

OF COURSE THANK YOU TO THE FIRST RESPONDERS AND OUR MEDICAL STAFF AND EVERYONE AT THE HOSPITALS AND EVERYONE COMING INTO CONTACT WITH PEOPLE, THE CENTRAL WORKERS.

I GOT CALLS FROM PEOPLE WHO NEED HELP AND I'M REACHING OUT. A LOT OF PEOPLE GETTING HELP, I THINK THEY DESERVE -- LIKE OVER 75% OF THE PEOPLE WITH THE FOOD BANK IT WAS THEIR FIRST TIME ASKING FOR ASSISTANCE. DON'T BE AFRAID TO ASK FOR HELP. I GET SO MANY PEOPLE WHO SAY THEY ARE DOING OKAY AND I ASKED DO YOU NEED ANY FOOD AND THEY SAVE SO MANY PEOPLE NEEDED MORE THAN I DO. YOU NEED IT MORE THAN SOMEONE ELSE TOO.

YOU HAVE JUST HEARD HOW MANY DONATIONS ARE BEING MADE. THEY ARE BEING MADE TO THE ENTIRE COMMUNITY. DON'T BE AFRAID TO REACH OUT. IF YOU DON'T KNOW WHERE TO GO AND YOU CAN'T FIND IT YOU CAN CALL ME PERSONALLY. YOU CAN REACH OUT TO ANYONE ON STAFF AND THEY WILL POINT YOU IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION. THE HELP IS HERE.

TAKE ADVANTAGE OF IT. >> I WANT TO FINISH WITH, ON A POSITIVE NOTE, WE ARE DOING GREAT. IF YOU LOOK AT THE NUMBER AND HOW THINGS ARE GOING IN OUR AREA. WE ARE DOING FANTASTIC AND I THINK IT IS BECAUSE, A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO ARE OUT AND DOING THINGS, MAY HAVE AN THEMATIC. SOMEONE WHO DOESN'T THINK THEY WILL GET SICK AND IF THEY DO, THEY PROBABLY WON'T GET REALLY SICK.

IT IS HARD TO GET THEM TO STAY HOME. BUT STAY HOME.

THEY ARE DOING THE RIGHT THINGS AND THE NUMBERS DON'T LIE. KEEP DOING WHAT YOU'RE DOING.

THIS COMMUNITY NEVER CEASES TO AMAZE ME. DON'T GIVE UP.

THERE IS AN END. HANG IN THERE. WE WILL GET THROUGH THIS TOGETHER. I CAN'T IMAGINE DOING ANY BETTER.

SO THANK YOU TO THE COMMUNITY, THE COMMISSION, CITY STAFF, FIREFIGHTERS, POLICE AND EVERYONE HELPING

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.