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>> OKAY. WE WILL CALL THE ORDER AT THIS TIME.

THE CITY COMMISSION REGULAR MEETING. IT'S FEBRUARY 18TH.

CALL THE >> MAYOR >>

>> COMMISSIONER >> >> COMMISSIONER ROSS.

>> HERE. >> COMMISSIONER LEDNOVICH. >> PLEASE RISE FOR THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE AND THE INVOCATION PERFORMED BY PASTOR FELIX OF THE TRINITY UNITED METHODIST CHURCH.

I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO MY FLAG AND THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION, INDIVISIBLE,

WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. >> PASTOR.

>> GOOD EVENING EFRNL EVERYONE. FATHER GOD WE THANK YOU FOR THIS OPPORTUNITY TO COME TOGETHER GOD.

WE THANK YOU GOD FOR OUR LEADERS. WE THANK YOU GOD FOR OUR COMMUNITY. WE THANK YOU GOD FOR ALL THE SUPPORT THAT'S GIVEN BY THIS COMMUNITY. NOW GOD WE ASK YOU NOW THAT WE CAN ALL BE ON ONE PAGE LIKE MINDED GOD, JUST LIKING FOR YOU FOR GUIDANCE AND TRUTH, GOD. WE ASK YOU NOW TO BLESS US AS WE MEET, GOD, WE ASK YOU GOD THAT WE CAN AGREE TO DISAGREE IN ALL THINGS YOU ARE STILL IN THE MIDST. FATHER WE THANK YOU AND LOVE YOU.

IN JESUS'S NAME WE PRAY. LET US SAY >> THANK YOU.

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SIR. >> ALL RIGHT. SECTION FOUR, PRESENTATION 4.1.

THE MARINA ADVISORY BOARD. CAPTAIN MCCARTHY IS HERE TO PRESENT TO US.

>> WELCOME CAPTAIN. GOOD EVENING. KEVIN MCCARTHY.

304 CALHOUN STREET IN THE HISTORIC DISTRICT NOW. SO, WE HAD A VERY PRODUCTIVE MARINA ADVISORY BOARD AT OUR LAST MEETING ON JANUARY 27TH. I'M HOPING YOU HAVE A COPY OF THE RESULTS OF WHAT WE DISCUSSED. IF NOT, I WILL SHARE WITH YOU REAL QUICK. DID WE SEND THAT IN? ANYHOW.

LET ME SHARE IT WITH YOU. WE HAVE THREE DIFFERENT ITEMS WE VOTED ON TO ASK FOR RECOMMENDATION TO THE CITY COMMISSION. THE FIRST ITEM WAS SOME DISCUSSION ABOUT THE VISITATION OF THE TWO TALL SHIPS, THE NINA AND THE PINTA THAT PLAN TO COME TO FERNANDINA DURING SHRIMP FESTIVAL. THEY VISITED US FOUR YEARS AGO AND IT WAS VERY IMPRESSIVE. THEY ARE THE AUTHENTIC REPLICAS OF THE NINA AND PINTA, IN THE SAME DESIGN DONE BACK IN THE 1500, 1400S. THEY WERE COMING TO COME THIS WEEKEND. THERE WAS CONTROVERSY ABOUT HOW LONG THEY STAY AND HOW MUCH THEY PAY. THE COMMUNITIES THEY GO INTO, THEY DON'T GENERALLY PAY.

THEY ARE NOT FOR PROFIT AND A TINY ENTITY THAT DOES THIS BUT THEY DO CHARGE TO VISIT THE VESSEL. THEY DON'T TAKE YOU OUT ON PUBLIC SAILS BUT THEY ARE QUITE IMPRESSIVE. THE SHRIMP FESTIVAL COMMITTEE WAS SOMEWHAT INVOLVED IN THIS.

THE ENTITY THAT'S BRINGING THEM HERE IS THE SAINT MARY'S TALL SHIP ALLIANCE.

THIS SMALL ORGANIZATION IN SAINT MARY'S, GEORGIA, THEIR CHARGE IS TO BRING TALL SHIPS TO COMMUNITIES LIKE FERNANDINA ON A REGULAR BASIS. THERE ARE A LOT OF SCHOONER STYLE VESSELS AND TALL SHIPS THAT SAIL UP AND DOWN OUR COASTS.

SOME WOULD VERY MUCH LIKE TO MAKE A STOP IN FERNANDINA FOR A DAY OR TWO, OR A WEEK.

THEY WILL CHARGE FOR PUBLIC SALES AND VISITS ON THE VESSELS. WE HAVE DONE IT BEFORE IN THE PAST HERE. THE CONTROVERSY THE OTHER EVENING WAS WITH THE NINA AND PINTA, CAN WE ALLOW THEM TO STAY FOR FREE? THAT WAS WHAT THE DISCUSSION WAS ABOUT. THE SHRIMP FESTIVAL COMMITTEE MADE IT CLEAR IT WASN'T THEIR THING. THEY WERE TRYING TO COME ON THEIR OWN AND THEY WOULD LIKE TO COME ON THAT WEEKEND BECAUSE THERE'S LOTS OF FOLKS THERE. THE CONTROVERSY WAS CAN THEY SAY FOR FREE? WHAT WE FINALLY CAME UP AND I THINK IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN, MR. MARTIN HAS MADE ARRANGEMENTS WITH THEM. I BELIEVE THEY WILL MAKE A STAY?

>> CORRECT. THEY ARE PLANNING ON COMING. AND THERE'S BEEN CONTRIBUTIONS, A PLEDGE FROM THE TDC AND AN ANONYMOUS DONOR. WE ARE STILL SHORT ON A TOTAL

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AMOUNT REQUESTED. THE VISIT IS PLANNED. AND AS YOU INDICATED, SEPARATE APART FROM SHRIMP FEST, THERE ARE TWO ORGANIZATIONS THEY ARE NOT HERE AS PART OF THE SHRIMP FESTIVAL. THEY ARE HERE JUST BECAUSE THE SHRIMP FESTIVAL WEEKEND.

>> THAT'S RIGHT. IT'S A GOOD TIME. THERE WILL BE LOTS OF FOLKS HERE AND A GOOD TIME TO STAY. I'M EXCITED ABOUT IT. I THINK IT WILL BE GOOD FOR THE COMMUNITY. THEY WILL BE HERE THE WEEK BEFORE THE SHRIMP FESTIVAL WHICH IS TYPICALLY A SLOW TIME FOR US FOR TOURISM. IT SHOULD ACTUALLY BRING EXTRA TOURISM TO THE ISLAND TO SEE THE NINA AND PINTA. THE MARINA WILL ALSO GET EXPOSURE. THE MARINA, PEOPLE WILL BE AWARE IT'S OPEN WITH THOSE TWO VESSELS HERE. THE MARINA ADVISORY BOARD WAS CONCERNED IN THE FUTURE WHEN WE BRING OTHER VESSELS HERE THAT ARE MONEY-MAKING VENTURES. MOST ARE NOT FOR PROFIT BUT DO CHARGE FEES. THE MOTION WAS MADE AND SECONDED AND THEN UNANIMOUSLY APPROVED THAT IN THE FUTURE WE WOULD LIKE TO RECOMMEND THAT THE CITY COMMISSION OR THE MARINA CHARGE A FEE FOR THOSE VISITS. ANY ENTITY THAT CHARGES MONEY TO RIDE THE VESSEL SHOULD HAVE TO PAY. YOU FOLKS WOULD HAVE TO MAKE THE ULTIMATE DECISION.

THE BOARD FELT STRONGLY ANYONE THAT MAKES MONEY THAT COMES HERE SHOULD HAVE TO PAY FOR THEIR

STAY. >> KEVIN, HOW MANY SLIPS IS THIS GOING TO TAKE UP?

>> I THINK THERE ARE TWO SLIPS. THE NIGHT STAY WOULD BE ABOUT $500 A FIGHT FOR THE TWO VESSELS. THE LENGTH OF TIME THEY WANT TO STAY WILL BE A TOTAL OF ABOUT $6,000. THAT WOULD BE WHAT THEIR NORMAL FEE WOULD BE.

WE DO, DO FREE STAYS FOR THE COAST GUARD, FOR THE GEORGIA BULLDOGS AND MANY OTHER SHIPS THAT COME HERE AND THAT'S BEEN TRADITIONAL. THE LAST TIME THE NINA AND PINTA

STAYED, IT WAS FOR FREE. >> TWO SLIPS PER SHIP? >> NO, TWO VESSELS.

THE TOTAL AMOUNT WOULD BE $6,000. >> I WAS THINKING OF AVAILABILITY. THAT WEEKEND IS A VERY POPULAR WEEKEND.

>> IT DOESN'T, IT'S KIND OF COUNTER INTUITIVE TO GIVE IT AWAY.

>> A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE LOOKING FORWARD. >> WE COULD FILL THE SLIPS.

SO, THERE WILL BE SOME OF THIS PAID. I DON'T KNOW IF THE TOTAL OF $6,000. THE CITY HAD ALREADY GIVEN THEM A FEW DAYS.

SO THIS IS FINE FOR THIS ONE. BUT IN THE FUTURE, IF OTHER VESSELS COME HERE, THE BOARD SUGGESTED WE SHOULD CHARGE THEM A FEE. THAT WAS ONE OF OUR MOTIONS MADE AND SECONDED AND UNANIMOUSLY VOTED ON. THE OTHER TWO ITEMS ARE KIND OF ONE IN THE SAME. THE OTHER TWO WERE ABOUT FIND MONEY THAT WAS ALLOCATED FOR THE MOORING FIELD THAT THEN WAS REPURPOSED FOR THE BATHROOMS WHICH WAS MONEY FROM LAST YEAR'S FIND MONEY THAT WAS GIVEN TO US. THE BOARD FEELS THERE ARE TWO OTHER MORE PRESSING ISSUES, AND THEY ARE DOCKS TWO AND THREE. THAT ARE IN PRETTY BAD SHAPE. COMMISSIONER ROSS BROUGHT THAT

UP LAST MEETING. >> I BROUGHT THAT UP STARTING IN OCTOBER.

>> YES, SIR. DOCKS TWO AND THREE ARE IN PRETTY ROUGH SHAPE AND NEED MAJOR OVER HAUL AND UPGRADING AND MAINTENANCE DONE. THE DOCKS THEMSELVES WILL LAST FOR MANY, MANY YEARS. BELLINGHAM BUILT THOSE TWO DEMOCRACY.

IT'S THE THROUGH RODS AND WHALERS THAT MUST BE REPLACED. THERE'S BEEN STUDIES ON THIS AND I DON'T THINK THE CITY KNOWS WHAT IT WOULD COST. THEY CAN BE DONE IN PLACE AND IN A COUPLE MONTH'S TIME. IT'S STANDARD PROCEDURE THESE DOCKS GET THOSE WHALERS AND THREE RODS REPLACED PERIODICALLY. SHOULD HAVE THEM REPLACED.

THE MARINE ADVISORY BOARD RECOMMENDS TO THE CITY COMMISSION THAT DOCKS TWO AND THREE BE REPAIRED SOME TIME IN THE NOT SO TOO DOESN'T FUTURE AND THE FINED MONEY GIVEN FOR THE MOORING FIELD AND REPURPOSED FOR THE BATHROOMS COULD BE USED AT THIS TIME TO REPAIR THE DOCKS. SO, WE HAD TWO OF THOSE. ONE WAS TO REPAIR THE DOCKS.

THERE WAS A MOTION MADE TO REPAIR THE DOCKS. IT WAS UNANIMOUSLY DECIDED TO REPAIR THE DOCKS. IT'S PRETTY CRITICAL. WE ALMOST LOST THEM DURING THE LAST STORM THAT CAME THROUGH WHETHER DORIAN CAME THROUGH. THEY WERE COMING APART.

IF WE HAD HIGHER WINDS OR WAVES WE WOULD HAVE LOST THEM. THE REST OF THE MARINA IS

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BRAND-NEW. THOSE WOULD BE THE OLDEST IF THEY'RE NOT REPAIRED.

>> I DO. CAPTAIN, THE THIRD OF THE DOCKS TWO AND THREE, WHAT IS THE

ESTIMATED COST? >> I HAVE BEEN KICKING AROUND NUMBERS TODAY, LOOKS LIKE ABOUT $40,000 PER DOCK COULD DO IT. I DON'T KNOW THAT FOR SURE. I DID SPEAK WITH THE PRINCIPAL AT BELLINGHAM, THE BUILDER WHO BUILT IT ORIGINALLY AND HE'S GOING TO COME OVER NEXT WEEK AND TAKE A LOOK AT IT FOR US. HE'S NOT THE ONE THAT WOULD DO THE WORK BUT SUPPLY US WITH THE THROUGH RODS AND WHALERS AND RECOMMEND A CONTRACTOR THAT COULD DO IT.

WE SHOULD HAVE ANOTHER NUMBER SOON. >> AND THE AMOUNT OF THE FIND

GRANT WAS? >> I'M NOT SURE. I THINK IT WAS --

>> $200,000. >> OKAY. SO THAT MONEY IS STILL AVAILABLE. IT WOULD HAVE TO BE REPURPOSED AND WE WOULD HAVE TO GO TO FIND.

IT WAS REPURPOSED FOR THE BATHROOMS. FIRST THE MOORING FIELD AND THEN

THE BATHROOMS AND WE VALID TO REPURPOSE FOR THE DOCK. >> IF MY MEMORY SERVES ME CORRECT, BECAUSE I WAS AT MEETING. THE REPAIR OF THE MOORING FIELD

WAS $50,000. >> I'M NOT SURE, THAT PROBABLY WOULD BE PRETTY CLOSE.

>> OKAY. AND I HAVE THE REVENUE FIGURES FROM THE MOORING FIELD.

FOR THE PAST FIVE YEARS BEFORE MATTHEW. IT NETS APPROXIMATELY $26,000 A YEAR. I RECALL ONE OF COMMITTEE MEMBERS ASKING WHAT THE RETURN

ON INVESTMENT WAS. SO THAT WOULD BE TWO YEARS. >> YES.

BUT OBVIOUSLY THE MOORING FIELD BRINGS IN REVENUE. >> ABSOLUTELY.

SO, THE QUESTION IS, DOCKS, MOORING FIELD. >> WELL, I BELIEVE MY COST ARE MORE THAN THAT. FOR MY TWO SLIPS ALONE OR THREE SLIPS.

IF THOSE DOCKS GO AWAY -- >> I UNDERSTAND. IT'S A TRADE OFF.

YOU HAVE TO DECIDE PRIORITIZE. >> CORRECT. >> SO THE BOARD HAD THAT DISCUSSION AND FELT THE PRIORITY WAS DOCKS TWO AND THREE. THAT WAS JUST OUR --

>> COMMISSIONER ROSS, COMMENT? >> I'M CURIOUS WHY THIS IS BEFORE THE MARINA ADVISORY BOARD. THIS SHOULD HAVE BEEN TAKEN CARE OF YEARS AGO IF NOT MONTHS AGO.

I'M CURIOUS WHY THE MARINA ADVISORY BOARD. THIS IS A MATTER OF MAINTENANCE

THAT'S SUPPOSED TO BE ON GOING. >> THAT'S TRUE. >> AND JUST CURIOUS HOW IT GOT

BEFORE YOU. >> AND I THINK IN THE FUTURE BELLINGHAM, WHEN THEY BUILD THESE DOCKS AND THEY GIVE YOU A MAINTENANCE SCHEDULE, THEY TELL YOU HOW TO MAINTAIN THE DOCKS.

ONE OF THE MAJOR MAINTENANCE ISSUES IS TO TIGHTEN THE BOLTS PERIODICALLY.

AND THAT ALONE WILL KEEP THE DOCKS FROM COMING APART. WHEN THEY START TO GET LOOSE IN HEAVY SEAS, THEY ROCK AND ROLL. AND IT BREAKS THE BOLTS AND IT BREAKS THE WHALERS.

IF THEY'RE TIGHTENED PERIODICALLY, THE WHOLE DOCK MOVES AS ONE PIECE.

AND SO, YEAH, THEY DO HAVE A MAINTENANCE SCHEDULE THAT THEY WILL GIVE YOU WHETHER THEY BUILD YOU A DOCK. BELLINGHAM AND MANY MANUFACTURERS WILL.

YOU HAVE TO FOLLOW THOSE RECOMMENDATIONS HOWEVER AND I'M AFRAID THEY WEREN'T FOLLOWED IN THIS CASE. THAT DOCK HAS TO BE AT LEAST 30 YEARS.

>> AND COULD LAST ANOTHER 30 YEARS. >> THE DOCKS ARE MADE TO LAST A

LONG TIME IF THEY ARE MAINTAINED. >> GOING TO YOUR QUESTION

ABOUT THE COST. >> YES, SIR. >> ABOUT SEVERAL MONTHS AGO, PRIOR TO OCTOBER, I TALKED WITH THE GENTLEMEN YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT BECAUSE HE HAPPENED TO BE HERE AND HIS QUOTE WAS ABOUT $100,000 TO $150,000 PER DOCK. SUBSEQUENT TO THAT, OTHER PEOPLE QUOTED $50,000. PART IS IF YOU USE STAINLESS STEEL, STEEL OR FIBER GLASS RODS. THE REAL POINT THIS SHOULD HAVE BEEN DONE MONTHS AGO, IF NOT YEARS AGO AND WE SHOULD LEAVE IT UP TO THE CITY MANAGER FOR THE BEST WAY TO FUND IT.

THOSE DOCKS, THEY'RE FALLING APART. IT NEEDS TO BE FIXED AS SOON AS POSSIBLE OR THEY'RE GOING TO JUST BREAK UP. VICE MAYOR KREGER.

>> MR. SPRINGER, YOU MENTIONED YOU'RE IN THE PROCESS OF GETTING ACTUAL ESTIMATES TO DO THAT PROJECT. WHEN DO YOU THINK YOU WILL HAVE THEM?

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>> HE INDICATED -- >> PLEASE. >> JOE SPRINGER, CITY MARINA MANAGER WORKING WITH WEST TRACK. THE QUESTION CAME UP WHY WASN'T IT DONE?

>> IT WAS PLANNED ON BEING DONE WHEN THE SOUTHERN BASIN WAS FINISHED, WE WERE GOING TO MOVE THE BOATS FROM THE NORTH SIDE AND MOVE TO THE SOUTH SIDE AND THE BOATS WOULD CONTINUE WORKING. WHEN IT CAME UP WE WEREN'T GOING TO HAVE TO MOVE THEM WE STARTED LOOKING AT THE REPAIR OF THEM. I HAVE THE PLANS ALREADY MADE TO HAVE BELLINGHAM'S REPRESENTATIVE UP HERE TOMORROW OR THURSDAY TO PHYSICALLY WALK THE DOCK TO POINT OUT WHAT HAS TO BE DONE, WHAT SHOULD BE DONE AND KNOWING 10 YEARS AGO THEY WERE ALREADY RUSTED SHUT.

WE HAVE BEEN MAINTAINING WHAT WE COULD AND NOW WE NEED THESE FOLKS TO GIVE US AN ACTUAL, THIS IS WHAT WE NEED TO BE DONE AND HAVE THE BASIS TO GET THE PRICES.

I HAVE BEEN GETTING PRICES $50,000 PER DOCK. I HAVE HEARD AS MUCH AS $300,000. I FIGURE LET'S GO TO THE PEOPLE WHO BUILT THE DOCK IN THE NEXT TWO OR THREE DAYS AND PROVIDE THE CITY MANAGER WITH WHAT I HEAR FROM THEM.

>> FOLLOWING ON WITH NEW ATTENUATERS. THEY HAVE TO BE MAINTAINED

ANNUALLY. >> OUR DOCK MASTER BROKE IT DOWN TO QUARTERLY INSPECTIONS AND ADJUSTMENTS, THIS IS STARTING OUT NEW AND WILL REMAIN IN THAT SHAPE AS LONG AS HUMANLY POSSIBLE WITH THE STAFF WE HAVE OVER THERE. IN THE PROCESS OF BUILDING, WE WORKED WITH THE CONTRACTOR TO LEAVE US SPECIFIC PARTS AND TOOLS, THINGS WE NEED TO HAVE TO DO THE REPAIRS AND ALL OF THAT IS BEING SCHEDULED TO BE DONE. WE JUST OPENED JANUARY 23RD.

WE WILL HAVE ONE BEFORE SHRIMP FESTIVAL, THE FIRST WALK OF THE DOCK.

>> SO YOU'RE GOING TO ACCELERATE TO QUARTERLY. AND IN SIX MONTHS.

IT'S PREVENTATIVE MAINTENANCE SCHEDULE. >> PREVENTATIVE MAINTENANCE SCHEDULE TO WALK THE DOCKS, GET IN THE BOATS AND LOOK AND SEE AND FEEL AND TOUCH THE ENTIRE DOCK AND PLAN ON MAKING REPAIRS OR ADJUSTMENTS TO ONE FOURTH EACH TIME EACH YEAR.

>> IS THAT FACILITY? >> THE PLAN IS MADE UP INSIDE OF THE MARINA.

THE WORK ITSELF WILL BE RECORDED IN THE FACILITY DEED. WHICH WE HAVE DONE THAT WITH OVER A THOUSAND WORK ORDERS WE HAVE ALREADY DONE SINCE '15 AT THE

>> THANK YOU. >> DO YOU REMEMBER THE SCHEDULE? >> THAT'S THE KEY.

PREVENTATIVE MAINTENANCE. CUDO THAT BUT IT WON'T WORK. THE COST FOR PREVENTATIVE MAINTENANCE, YOU'RE GOING TO, SO THE COST WILL BE HIGHER AND THEN GO DOWN AND IT'S GOING TO END UP

LASTING FOR 30 YEARS. >> THE REASON I ASK, IT'S SOMETHING WE DO.

IT SEEMS SILLY TO DO SOMETHING THAT DOESN'T NEED TO BE DONE BUT IT'S AN ON-GOING THING.

>> COMMISSIONER LEDNOVICH. >> I HAVE A QUESTION. I HAVE SIX BOATERS WHO LIVE IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD AND I MOW THE LAWN AND THEY STOP AND ASK ME. THEY ASK ME ABOUT THE MOORING FIELD. I AM TRUSTING MY MEMORY. AT THE MEETING DID I HEAR YOU

SAY WE REPLACE THE CHAINS EVERY OTHER YEAR? >> I SAID WHEN WESTTRACK GOT HERE, THE CHAINS HAD NOT BEEN REPLACED. WE WENT WITH A THREE YEAR SCHEDULE AND AT THE TIME OF THE STORM WENT TO EVERY TWO YEARS. EVEN BALLS WERE CHANGED IN THE EVEN NUMBERS AND ODD IN THE ODD YEARS. THEN THE HURRICANE CAME.

>> WHERE DO WE STAND IN REPLACING CHAINS? >> WHERE WE ARE WITH THAT NOW.

I WENT OUT TO A LOCAL DIVER I HAD TO WORK WITH TO GET OFFICIALLY RECOGNIZED BY THE CITY WITH THE PAPERWORK. HE'S AVAILABLE TO PUT THE PERIMETER BUOYS AND CHAINS AND ANCHORS IN THE GROUND FOR LESS THAN $5,000 AND INCLUDED IN THAT PRICE, HE'S GOING TO SWIM EVERY ONE OF CHAINS IN THE BALLS OUT THERE AND REPORT BACK TO ME WHAT THE STATUS OF THE CHAINS ARE AND HOW MANY NEED TO BE REPAIRED AND HOW MANY FEET OF CHAIN WE WILL NEED TO DO IT.

WHEN IT TURNS OUT WE HAVE THAT PRICE OF WHAT IT WILL TAKE TO GET THEM FUNCTIONAL AGAIN WITH THE CHAINS. JUST GETTING THEM FUNCTIONAL, THAT WILL BE THE NEXT TASK WE'RE WORKING ON GETTING THAT MOORING FIELD OPEN. WE THOUGHT WE WERE OPENING IN

MARCH AND OPENED IN JANUARY. >> JUST GIVE ME A BALLPARK WHEN YOU EXPECT THAT INSPECTION.

>> THE INSPECTION AND REPORT, I WILL HAVE THAT WITHIN TWO WEEKS. HE'S READY TO DIVE RIGHT NOW.

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>> SO AT OUR NEXT MEETING, YOU WOULD KNOW THE ESTIMATED REPAIR COST?

>> OR THE DATE IT WAS ALREADY >> THANK YOU.

>> COMMISSIONER ROSS. >> I GUESS I'M DISAPPOINTED. THOSE RODS AS YOU JUST POINTED

OUT WERE RUSTED WHEN YOU OVER THE CONTRACT. >> YES, SIR.

>> AND WE'RE NOW LATER? >> 10.

>> SO ALL ALL OF A SUDDEN ALL OF A SUDDEN ALL OF A SUDDEN 10 YEARS LATER WE'RE LOOKING AT THIS. I'M DISAPPOINTED THAT WASN'T TAKEN CARE OF OVER THE 10 YEARS. THE SECOND THING IS, IT'S BEEN KNOWN FOR MONTHS THAT WE WERE GOING TO OPEN AND TIME AND I DON'T QUITE UNDERSTAND WHY THIS MOORING FIELD WASN'T TAKEN CARE OF SIX MONTHS AGO. A YEAR AGO. YEAR AND A HALF AGO.

TWO YEARS AGO. AND ALL OF A SUDDEN NOW, WHEN WE GOT EVERYTHING ELSE GOING ON, WE'RE NOW ADDRESSING THAT. I'M SURE YOU WILL HAVE A REASON, BUT, I'M JUST VERY DISAPPOINTED

IN THE WAY THIS WAS >> MAY I? >> PLEASE.

>> I AM SORRY YOU'RE DISAPPOINTED IN US. I TRULY AM.

SO WE'RE IN THE SAME YEAR. WHEN WE GOT HERE, TOOK US TWO YEARS TO REALIZE THIS MARINA NEEDS A LOT OF WORK. STARTING IN 2010, 2012. THE 2012-2013, WE STARTED WORKING WITH BELLINGHAM TO REFURBISH THE DOCKS BECAUSE WE WEREN'T CAPABLE OF IT.

IT REQUIRED HEAVY EQUIPMENT THE CITY DIDN'T HAVE. FIRST YEAR WE DID 50 SOME ODD FEET OF THE FAR END DOCK, THE FOLLOWING YEAR WE WERE CONTRACTED TO DO ANOTHER HUNDRED FEET OF THE OUTSIDE DOCK BECAUSE THAT WAS THE PRIMARY MONEY MAKER AND IF WE PROTECTED THAT DOCK, THE REST WOULD LAST LONGER. $189,000 WAS DEDICATED TO THAT PURPOSE AND $189,000 WENT BACK TO THE CITY BECAUSE IT DIDN'T MAKE SENSE TO REPAIR THE DOCK AFTER THE HURRICANE.

WE MOVED TO DOCKS AND THREES. YET THE NORTH END WHICH WAS THE NEXT EXPOSED.

WE HAD THE PLAN TO DO THE REPAIRS. THE MOORING FIELD, IT SEEMS THERE'S A MISCONCEPTION WE CLOSED THE MOORING FIELD SOME TIME AGO.

IT'S ONLY BEEN CLOSED ONE YEAR AND A FEW MONTHS. WHEN WE CLOSED THE MOORING FIELD, THE MOORING FIELD WAS CLOSED BECAUSE THERE WAS AN AREA OF THE MARINA UNDER CONSTRUCTION. WE HAD BOATING JUMPING INTO THE LONG-TERM BOATING LOCATIONS AND THE MOORING FIELD HAD TO BE CLOSED UNTIL WE FOUND A PLACE TO PUT THE DINGHY BOATS.

THINKING WE HAD UNTIL MARCH. THIS IS A PROCESS OF OKAY, THIS IS WHAT NEEDS TO BE DONE.

WHAT SHOULD I DO WITH THE SITUATION AND WAS REQUESTED I TAKE IT TO THE MARINE ADVISORY BOARD TO GET THEIR INPUT ON IT. COULD IT HAVE BEEN DONE? YES.

SHOULD IT HAVE ALREADY BEEN DONE? YES.

IS IT DONE? NO. WILL IT BE DONE, QUICKLY?

YES. >> WE WILL GET THAT OPEN AND THE INTENT IS TO HAVE IT FUNCTIONING BEFORE THE NEXT TRANSIENT PERIOD IS COMING THROUGH BECAUSE WE HAVE THE BOATS ASKING FOR IT.

>> WE CAN AGREE TO >> THANK YOU. SIR.

>> ANYONE >> THANK YOU. >> THAT WAS BASICALLY IT.

>> SO WE WOULD LOVE TO SEE IT REPAIRED BECAUSE IT'S IN DIRE NEED OF HAVING THAT DOCK

REPAIRED. >> OKAY. AND THE MOORING FIELD IS AN IMPORTANT ISSUE. I WILL TELL YOU THAT MANY, MANY OF THOSE VESSELS THAT COME THROUGH DO NOT USE THE MOORING FIELD. THEY ANCHOR THEMSELVES.

THEY DO THAT IN MOST PLACES WHERE THEY GO. IT'S NOT LIKE WE LOSE THEM COMPLETELY. THEY DO STOP. THE INCOME WE LOSE.

MANY, MANY OF THEM REFUSE TO USE A MOORING FIELD ANCHOR. THAT ONE IS KIND OF A TRADE OFF.

>> COME MOW MY LAWN. THEY STOP SO MUCH IT GROWS. >> SO, IT'S BEEN OVER A YEAR SINCE BEFORE THE MARINA ADVISORY BOARD AND HOW, DO YOU FEEL LIKE YOU'RE ACCOMPLISHING THINGS?

>> THE FIRST YEAR WE FELT LIKE WE DIDN'T HAVE A PURPOSE ALMOST BECAUSE EVERYTHING HAD BEEN, I MEAN THE BUILDING, THE REDOING OF THE MARINA WAS ALREADY DONE. THERE WAS NOTHING REALLY FOR US TO MAKE DECISIONS ON. WE FELT LIKE WE DIDN'T HAVE MUCH OF A PURPOSE.

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HOWEVER, NOW THAT THE MARINA IS OPEN, AND AT OUR LAST MEETING, WE HAD THREE ITEMS WE TOOK ON, WE DISCUSSED, VOTED ON AND NOW I BROUGHT THEM BEFORE YOU TODAY, SO WE FINALLY HAVE A PURPOSE.

AND WE BELIEVE, I BELIEVE THAT GOING FORWARD NOW, THAT THE MARINE ON IS OPEN, THERE WILL BE

MORE ISSUES TO TAKE CARE OF. >> YOU UNDERSTAND THE GUIDELINES AND WHAT WE'RE ASKING YOU TO DO

AND YOU ARE OKAY WITH THE COMMUNICATION WITH STAFF? >> I THINK SO.

IT SHOULD GO QUITE WELL I HOPE. I'M THE GUY OF GUY TO WORK TOGETHER.

LET'S FIND A SOLUTION TO AND OF THIS. THIS IS GOOD TONIGHT.

I FEEL GOOD. >> YOU FEEL LIKE THINGS ARE GOING WELL.

I THINK THE BOARD WILL FEEL GOOD ABOUT THIS TOO. >> WE WILL BE MUCH BUSIER NOW

IT'S OPEN. >> YOU'RE SAYING IT WAS A IDEA.

>> WHOSE IDEA THAT WAS? >> YOURS. >> OH, THAT'S RIGHT.

I'M NOT UP FOR RE-ELECTION >> HOW DO YOU FEEL JOHN?

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>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. OKAY. NEXT WE HAVE THE BUDGET SUMMARY.

FROM MS. TESTAGROSE. >> JANUARY IS THE FOURTH MONTH AND REPRESENTS 33% OF THE BUDGETED FISCAL YEAR. WITH A GENERAL FUND DATE 66.8 % OF THE ANNUAL BUILDING.

DUE TO THE TIMING OF PROPERTY TAX RECEIPTS AND LOCAL BUSINESS TAX RECEIPTS.

OVERALL GENERAL FUND EXPENSES ARE SLIGHTLY BELOW THE 33% MARK AND SEVERAL DEPARTMENTS OVER THIS MARK AND THAT'S DUE TO THE PAYMENTS ON ANNUAL MAINTENANCE CONTRACTS AND PROFESSIONAL SERVICES. ALL INTERFUND TRANSFERS HAVE BEEN COMPLETED.

THE SEMI ANNUAL INTEREST PAYMENT WAS MADE. THE CAPITOL FUND AND INCUMBRANCES HAVE BEEN ISSUED FOR BEACH SIDE MONITORING. THE PECK SIDE ROOF REPLACEMENT.

THE GOLF COURSE REVENUES EXCEED EXPENSES DUE TO THE TRANSFER FROM THE GENERAL FUND.

THE MARINA AS YOU HAVE HEARD HAS HAD A SOFT OPENING ON JANUARY 23RD.

DOES ANYONE HAVE QUESTIONS? >> COMMISSIONER ROSS? >> I HAVE QUESTIONS ABOUT THE

RECREATION IMPACT FEE. >> OKAY. >> SO WE FIRST QUESTION, IT'S NOT A QUESTION, IT'S A STATEMENT. ONE OF OUR MAJOR GOALS IS TO CREATE A WATERFRONT PARK AND PART OF THE WAY THAT WAS GOING TO BE FUNDED WAS THROUGH THAT IMPACT FEE. SO, AT THE BEGINNING OF THE YEAR, AM I CORRECT THE IMPACT FEE WAS AND I'M DOING ROUGH NUMBERS. $2.6 MILLION.

>> I'M JUST TALKING RECREATION FUND. >> WE ALREADY SPENT $450,000 TO REPLACE LIGHTS AT A BALL FIELD AND SPENT $400,000 ON A NEW PARK.

IS THAT CORRECT? >> WE HAVE BUDGETED. >> IT'S GOING TO BE SPENT.

>> THEN FOR THE BOARD WALK PART TWO, WHICH WAS GOING TO COME OUT OF THE IMPACT FEE FUND.

WE WERE GOING TO DO THAT AND GO TO THE TDC. THEN THE TDC SAID THEY WERE ONLY GOING TO GIVE US 30%. WE WILL STILL BE ON THE HOOK FOR ANOTHER $60,000 AND MAYBE THE 270. SO THEN, $900,000 TO BUY THE SIMMONS ROAD PARK PROJECT.

YES. >> THAT MEANS AT THE END OF THE YEAR, WE WILL SPEND $1.89 MILLION. THAT LEAVES $710,000 LEFT IF OTHER SPENDING.

>> CORRECT. >> AND YEAR TO DATE, WE COLLECTED

>> CORRECT? >> YES. AND WHAT WE PROJECTED WAS SO THAT MEANS WITH $169,000, IF WE DON'T COLLECT ANYMORE MONEY, WE WILL HAVE $900 DOLLARS AND COLLECT 1.4 MILLION THERE IS AND HAVE $2.1 MILLION. CORRECT.

>> I GUESS WHAT I'M SAYING, THE PARK COST IS $4 MILLION AND WE NEED TO STOP SPENDING MONEY OUT OF THE IMPACT FEE FUND IF WE WANT THAT MONEY TO BE THERE. THAT'S A WORD OF CAUTION AND MY FEELING. I'M JUST BRINGING THAT FUND IS NOT GOING TO BE EASILY REPLACED AND IT IS FOR OUR NUMBER ONE GOAL IS THE THANK YOU.

>> VICE MAYOR. >> IN ADDITION, THE IMPACT FEES, THERE WAS $146,000 FOR THE THREE WALK OVERS AND NEXT YEAR WE COMMITTED, SHOULD WE GET OUR LEGISLATIVE TO PROVE ANOTHER $500. THE IMPACT FUND IS FOR INFRASTRUCTURE DUE TO GROWTH, WHICH CAN BE SIGNIFICANTLY THE WATERFRONT PARK. THERE WILL BE OTHER THINGS THAT

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WE HAVE TO LOOK AT. ALONG THOSE >> THANK YOU.

SIR. >> COMMISSION LED NOVIV. >> I COMMISSIONER LEDNOVICH. I WANTED TO THANK YOU FOR GETTING ME THOSE NUMBERS FOR THE FIVE YEARS. I DROPPED THAT IN HER LAP ON FRIDAY.

ORIGINALLY SHE SAID SHE WOULDN'T HAVE IT AND SHE SURPRISED >> THANK

>> THANK YOU. MA'AM FAMILY. >> OKAY.

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ON TO SECTION FIVE. PUBLIC COMMENT ON ITEMS THAT ARE NOT ON THE AGENDA.

I HAVE A FEW REQUESTED TO SPEAK. JOAN BEAN, WELCOME, MA'AM. JOANNE BEAN.

141 NORTH 15TH STREET STILL. GOOD TO BE HERE. WANT TO FIND OUT ANYTHING ABOUT AMELIA BLUFF. RIGHT NOW IT'S A MESS. NOTHING IS GOING ON.

THE LAST THING I HAVE READ WAS THAT THEY WERE TALKING ABOUT THE FINE AND THE MAN THAT HAD TAKEN THE TREES DOWN BY MISTAKE, ANYWAY, WHATEVER THE FINE WAS GOING TO BE, YOU ALL WERE DISCUSSING THAT. IS THAT BEEN DISCUSSED? IS THE FINE SET? HAS HE PAID THE FINE? WHATEVER I CAN FIND OUT. I'M INTERESTED IN THAT.

>> I HAVE APPROVED THE MITIGATION PLAN. I GAVE TO TO CITY COMMISSIONERS WITH ALL MEMBERS OF THE PRESS. THE FINE WAS, I DID CONSULT WITH TWO OUTSIDE ARBORISTS TO REVIEW THE PROPOSED MITIGATION PLAN. WE MADE CHANGES TO WAS WHAT PROPOSED.

SO WHAT RESULTED WAS LESS TREES THAN WHAT WAS ORIGINALLY PLANNED BY THE DEVELOPER BECAUSE THE ARBORISTS SAID THEY WOULD LIKE HIGHER QUALITY THAN QUANTITY OF TREES.

THE DEVELOPER HAS PAID THE FINE. WHICH IS APPROXIMATELY $38,000. THE CITY RECEIVED THE CHECK FOR THAT AND I HAVE THE RECEIPT OF THE CHECK AND WITH THE TREE MITIGATION PLAN, I HAVE RELEASED

THE STOP ORDER. >> THEY CAN START WORKING ON IT DAIN.

>> AGAIN. >> YES, SIR. >> YOU MAY RECALL THAT YOU ADDRESSED US FIVE OR SIX MONTHS AGO AND YOU ASKED ABOUT A MORATORIUM

>> >> DO YOU REMEMBER? >> I DO NOW.

THANK YOU. >> I WANT TO LET YOU KNOW THAT UNDER MY TOPIC OF CONSERVATION,

I WILL BE BRINGING THAT UP. >> THAT'S GREAT. I'M GLAD YOU CAN REMEMBER.

I CAN'T REMEMBER. >> YES. THAT WOULD BE WONDERFUL.

WE COULD GET A MORATORIUM. >> WE WILL TALK ABOUT >> THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU MS. BEAN. ALEX SEBRIT. >> GOOD EVENING.

ALEX SEBRIT IN OLD TOWN. I SAT THROUGH THE MEETINGS EARLIER TODAY AND SINCE THIS IS THE ONLY OPPORTUNITY TO COMMENT, I THOUGHT I WOULD DO SO. I WANTED TO START OUT FIRST OF ALL BY REALLY ENDORSING THE WORK THAT THE HDC DOES. I THINK THAT IT'S, IF YOU'RE FAMILIAR WITH THE SECRETARY OF THE INTERIOR STANDARDS ARE SUPPOSED TO DO THINGS THAT ARE COMPATIBLE WITH AND THINGS LIKE THE LANGUAGE THAT WILL FIT HARMONIOUSLY.

THOSE ARE SUBJECTIVE THINGS THAT THEY HAVE TO CONTEND WITH AND GENERALLY SPEAKING, THEY DO QUITE A GOOD JOB. BUT, I THINK I WANTED TO GIVE A DIFFERENT PERSPECTIVE TO SOME OF THE COMMISSIONERS ON SOME OF WHAT HAS GONE ON OUT THERE TO MAKE SURE YOU HAVE MY VIEW OF THAT. I THINK PART OF THE PROBLEM IS WHEN PEOPLE COME TO THE ISLAND, THEY LOOK FOR PROPERTY AND OLD TOWN USED TO HAVE A PLANT AND WASN'T NECESSARILY CONSIDERED THE MOST DESIRABLE PLACE AND THERE'S REAL INTEREST IN DEVELOPING OUT THERE.

IT'S A LOVELY SPOT IT'S ALL CLEANED UP. THEY DON'T NECESSARILY SEE IT FOR THE HISTORIC VALUE AND IT'S NOT UNTIL THEY SET THEIRS SIGHTS ON SOME BIG HOUSE AND THAT

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ULTIMATELY CREATED FRUSTRATION. THAT'S A SITUATION THAT EXISTS. THE SECOND THING IS, I THINK EACH OF THE BOARDS PROBABLY HAS BEEN CONSISTENT BUT OVER THE LONG-TERM, THERE HAVE BEEN INCONSISTENCIES IN WHAT HAS BEEN ALLOWABLE OUT THERE. SO STARTING OUT WITH SIMPLY MARKING MEDIA WITH A POST ALL THE WAY TO NOW WHAT SAL'S IS REQUIRING WITH THE 10 FOOT THING. THERE HAS BEEN A DRIFT. FOR PEOPLE WHO COME HERE, THEY SEE A BUNCH OF DIFFERENT THINGS AND SAY THAT'S VERY INCONSISTENT.

I THOUGHT I WOULD POINT THAT OUT. THE THIRD THING IS THERE ARE OUTRIGHT CONFLICTS AS YOU ALL KNOW. IN THE LDC.

THEY ARE WRITTEN THERE. A YEAR AGO WE HAD A WORKSHOP. YEAR LATER THE ONLY THING THAT'S BEEN RESOLVED IN A YEAR IS NO RENTING AND KITCHENETTES. ALL OF THE AREAS OF SIGNIFICANT CONCERN REMAIN UNRESOLVED. THEY'RE HAD A MEETING ABOUT IT TODAY.

STILL KICKED THE CAN DOWN THE ROAD TO THIS MAGICAL THING THAT TILLSON IS GOING TO DO WHICH ISN'T NECESSARILY FUNDED. I'M CONCERNED, THERE'S A LOT OF INTEREST IN THE PROPERTIES OUT THERE. A LOT OF THESE PROPERTIES YOU'RE GOING TO JUST, THERE'S THE OPPORTUNITY TO CONTINUE TO HAVE TENSION BECAUSE THE LANGUAGE HASN'T BEEN RESOLVED.

AND THEN FINALLY, WELL, I WILL JUST LEAVE IT THERE. JUST THOUGHT I WOULD HIGHLIGHT

THOSE AREAS. >> MR. TIM GREEN. >> TIM GREEN.

1119 SUMRELA AVENUE. >> I TELL YOU, JUST LIKE ALEX, I LISTENED TO TWO MEETINGS.

THERE WAS A WHOLE LOT SAID THAT I JUST DON'T FLAT OUT AGREE WITH.

THE INCONSISTENCIES. THE CITY MANAGER ASKED ONE OF BOARD MEMBERS, I WANT TO REMEMBER Y'ALL THESE ARE INCONSISTENCIES. HE SAID THE ONLY THING WE'RE INCONSISTENT AT IS BEING INCONSISTENT. I WANT TO BRING ONE POINT OUT BECAUSE MY PROPERTY WAS BROUGHT UP TONIGHT. IT SEEMS TO BE A BIG DEAL ABOUT THIS TOWN GATE. ONE OF YOUR CITY COMMISSIONERS WAS AT MY PROPERTY.

I FEEL SAL CAMELLA WAS THROWN UNDER THE BUS TONIGHT. I WORKED WITH THAT MAN FOR A YEAR EVERY STEP OF THE WAY AND I KNOW WHAT I WENT THROUGH. ANYWAY.

THE CITY COMMISSIONER COME OUT AND I SHOWED HIM AND EXPLAINED TO HIM WHAT I WENT THROUGH.

AND IT WAS BROUGHT UP TONIGHT WHEN I LOOK AT TOWN GATE, I SEE GRASS.

YOU KNOW WHAT, I CAN TELL YOU THERE'S GOING TO BE MORE GRASS COMING.

I GOT ANOTHER WHOLE LOT THAT I'M PUTTING SOD. ABOUT $12,000 WORTH OF SOD.

YOU BUT LET ME ASK ALL OF THIS, WHAT WOULD YOU RATHER SEE, THE SOD OR WHEN YOU SHOWED THE COMMISSIONER THE SEWER LINE, THE OLD SEWER LINES FROM THE TRAIL OR PARK WENT ACROSS THE TOP OF THE PROPERTY. WE CLEANED THIS UP. AND IF THIS WAS SO IMPORTANT, WHY DID IT STAY LIKE THAT FOR YEARS? YOU KNOW I MEAN THINK ABOUT IT.

WHEN DID THEY SAY, WE'RE GOING TO MAKE OLD TOWN A HISTORICAL SITE.

YOU KNOW, I MEAN IT STAYED A DUMP TO BE QUITE HONEST WITH YOU UNTIL, I WILL TAKE 90% OF THE CREDIT FOR IT UNTIL I CLEANED IT UP. YOU KNOW.

THERE'S SEWER LINES GOING ACROSS THE PROPERTY. AND MY DRIVEWAY IN THIS TOWN GATE SEEMS TO BE SUCH A BIG ISSUE. I'M HERE TO TELL YOU, IT'S A GRAVEL DRIVEWAY AND I CAN SHOW YOU THE RECEIPTS. I GOT CLOSE TO $6,000 IN A GRAVEL DRIVEWAY. I MEAN. SO A WHOLE LOT OF WHAT WAS SAID HERE TONIGHT, I KIND OF FEEL LIKE IT WAS JUST SUGAR COATING THE PROBLEM.

LIKE ALEX SAID, ONCE AGAIN THIS MEDIA THING AND ALL THIS HAS JUST BEEN KICKED DOWN THE ROAD.

AND THE NOTION THAT IT'S THIS LITTLE POCKET OF PEOPLE OUT THERE.

LIKE I SAID BEFORE, WHEN YOU HAVE HAD RESIDENTS COME BEFORE YOU BEFORE THEY CAME FROM 14TH STREET ALL THE WAY TO THE RIVER FRONT. SO IT'S NOT A POCKET OF PEOPLE WHO MOVED IN WHO IS BEING PORTRAYED AS TROUBLE MAKERS. WE MADE THAT PLACE BEAUTIFUL BECAUSE IT WAS A DUMP. I MEAN IT WAS. AND YOU LOOK AT IT NOW.

AND OF YOUR COMMISSIONERS HAVE SEEN WHAT MYSELF AND OTHERS HAVE THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU, SIR. >> WITH MR. SCOTT JONES. IS THAT A J?

>> >> SCOTT JONES. 2057 HIGHLAND DRIVE FERNANDINA.

I WANT TO TOUCH ON THINGS THAT WERE SAID EARLIER TODAY IN THE HISTORICAL DISTRICT.

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I CAME TO SAL AND HE SUGGESTED, RECOMMENDED THAT I HAVE A CONCEPTUAL MEETING WITH THE BOARD, AND I KNEW NOTHING ABOUT WHAT WAS GOING ON. HAD NO CLUE.

I BROUGHT IT. IT WAS LATE IN THE EVENING, SO I GIVE HIM THAT.

ALL I GOT IS YOU'RE WASTING OUR TIME AND THEY STARTED BERATING SAL.

REALLY GOT INTO HIM FOR LETTING IT GO THROUGH. I ASKED AM I GOING TO GET ANY KIND OF ADVICE OR DIRECTION OF WHAT I SHOULD DO, DO BETTER? AND I WAS MET WITH SILENCE.

I SAID CAN I TAKE THE TREE DOWN? THEY SAID, THAT'S NOT OUR DEPARTMENT.

I GOT NOTHING. SO, A LITTLE RECOMMENDATION IS MAYBE PUT TOGETHER A FIND A NICE VIDEO OF ONE OF THE MEETINGS WHERE A LOT IS DONE ON A PLAN AND HAVE IT FOR A SAMPLE MEETING WHERE NEWCOMERS CAN COME AND LOOK AT IT AND SAY, WHAT IS EXPECTED.

SO THEY DON'T COME IN AND GET BLIND SIDED AND TREAT IT >> THANK YOU.

SIR. OKAY. ANYBODY ELSE?

THAT CONCLUDES ALL I HAVE. POINT OF ORDER. >> YES, SIR.

[Consent Agenda (Part 1 of 2)]

>> CAN WE MOVE 7.1 UP? >> 7.1 IS RIGHT AFTER THE CONSENT AGENDA.

WE WILL GET THAT ONE OUT OF THE WAY. ANYBODY HAVE ANYTHING TO PULL

FROM THE AGENDA? >> 6.3 AND 6.5. >> LET'S MOVE 7.1 UP.

[Item 7.1]

THIS IS A NAMING OF THE TECH CENTER GYMNASIUM FOR COACH NELSON P

>> I RECOMMEND >> SECOND. >> MOTION AND SECOND.

AND MADAM CLERK, VICE MAYOR KREGER, >> YES.

>> ROSS, YES. >> CHAPMAN, >> YES.

LEDN LEDNOVICH, YES. >> MAYOR MILLER.

[Consent Agenda (Part 2 of 2)]

WHOLEHEARTEDLY YES. >> GOING BACK TO CONSENT AGENDA. I HAVE 6.3 AND 6.5 PULLED.

DO I HAVE A MOTION ON 6.3 AND FOUR. >> MOTION AND SECOND.

CALL THE VOTE. >> THANK YOU FOLKS. >> THAT INCLUDED 6.1 ALSO.

I'M SORRY. >> >> ROSS.

>> YES. COMMISSION LEDNOVICH, >> YES ,

[Items 6.3 & 6.5]

>> CHAPMAN, >> >> MILLER.

YES. >> THIS IS A BID FOR RC DEVELOPMENT GROUP INCORPORATED.

>> ACTUALLY, I WANTED TO TALK ABOUT 6.3 AND 6.5 TOGETHER. THE REASON OF COURSE, IS THIS IS A HALF A MILLION DOLLAR EXPENDITURE. I WOULD LIKE THE CITY MANAGER OR AIRPORT STAFF TO TELL US WHAT FOR THE PUBLIC SAKE AND 6.5, I WOULD TO COMMEND OF USING A CONSTRUCTION ADMINISTRATION WHICH IS ALMOST A PROJECT MANAGEMENT ALTHOUGH THIS IS GRANT FUNDED, I WOULD SUGGEST THIS IS WHAT WE NEED TO START LOOKING AT FOR OUR OTHER PROJECTS. WE HAVE MANY PROJECTS IN THE SAME AMOUNT AND THIS ULTIMATELY WILL SAVE A LOT OF MONEY AND GET IT DONE AND I CAN REFER TO WHEN WE DID THE TERMINAL AT THE AIRPORT. WE USED THIS SYSTEM WITH MINIMAL CHANGE ORDERS AND PRETTY CLOSE IN TIME. WITH THAT, IF THE CITY MANAGER COULD TELL US A LITTLE ABOUT THE

PROJECT. >> SURE, MR. MAYOR AND MR. VICE MAYOR.

6.3 THE AWARD OF THE BID FOR THE FUEL FARM. THIS IS TO REHABILITATE THE FUEL FARM. THE ORIGINAL PROJECT, F DOT HAD GIVEN US $400,000 WITH A 20% LOCAL MATCH. THE BIDS CAME IN AT $450,000. MR. COIL HAS BEEN MOVING F DOT FUNDS AROUND TO FUND THE DIFFERENCE. OTHER FUNDS WILL BE SHIFTED.

THE FUNDING AND THAT WILL NOT INHIBIT ANY FUTURE DEVELOPMENT. WITH REGARD TO 6.5, IF THE COMMISSION REMEMBERS, THE CITY DID GO OUT FOR QUALIFICATIONS FOR AIRPORT ENGINEERING CONSULTANT. THAT WAS AWARDED TO PASS ROLL ASSOCIATES.

THERE WAS STATE STATUTES THAT REQUIRED THE CITY TO DISTINGUISH BETWEEN THE CONSULTANT AND DESIGN PROFESSIONALS CONSTRUCTION PROJECTS. THIS IS A PROJECT THAT IN THE PAST WE WOULD HAVE UTILIZED PASS ROLE, BUT BECAUSE OF THE STATE LAW, WE HAVE TO USE A CONSTRUCTION CONSULTANT AND IT'S THE OTHER CONSULTANT THAT APPLIED OR SUBMITTED

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QUALIFICATIONS AT HANSON. THIS IS A TASK ORDER OF APPROXIMATELY $40,000.

WITH THE REMAINING 20% WITH THE AIRPORT. >> MY POINT WAS THIS IS OF SIGNIFICANT VALUE IN GETTING A PROJECT DONE ON TIME AND AT COST AND WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE, BECAUSE THE SPECIFICATIONS THEY'RE DOING, THIS IS SOMETHING THAT I WOULD RECOMMEND THAT WE LOOK AT FOR LOTS OF OUR OTHER PROJECTS WHICH WOULD BE, YOU KNOW, WOULD ULTIMATELY SAVE US

MONEY AND GET PROJECTS DONE. I RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF 6.3 >> SECOND.

>> AMERICA. CALL AMERICA

KREGER, >> YES. >> ROSS, YES.

[Item 7.2]

>> CHAPMAN. >> YES. LEDNOVICH.

YES. MILLER, YES. >> THIS IS A CONTRACT FOR, I'M SORRY, NO, GO AHEAD. CONTRACT FOR DR. BRANOFF TO THE CITY'S MEDICAL DIRECTOR.

WE PREVIOUSLY HAD DR. ULA. THAT CONTRACT EXPIRES AT THE END OF JANUARY, 2020.

AND SO THIS CONTRACT WOULD BE AFFECTIVE THIS MONTH AND IT CALLS FOR THIS CONTRACT IS A LOT MORE SPECIFIC AS TO WHAT WE REQUIRE OF THE MEDICAL DIRECTOR IN TERMS OF RIDING ALONG WITH OUR RESCUES AND ALSO PROVIDING US WITH STANDARD OPERATING PROCEDURES AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

>> THAT'S GREAT. >> MOVE TO >> SECOND.

>> MOTION AND SECOND. >> CALL THE >> ROSS,

>> >> KREGER, >> YES.

>> LEDNOVICH, >> >> CHAPMAN,

[Item 7.3]

>> YES. >> MAYOR, YES. >> ITEM 8.3.

YES THIS IS SOLE SOURCED TO ENTER A CONTRACT WITH SCHWALLS CONSULTING.

THIS WOULD BE DEDICATED CRS COMMUNITY RATING SYSTEM TO IMPROVE THE CITY'S OUTREACH EFFORTS AND IMPROVE THE CITY'S RATING IN ORDER TO POSITIVELY AFFECT THE PROPERTY OWNERS

HOMEOWNERS INSURANCE OR FLOOD INSURANCE COST. >> MOVE TO APPROVE.

>> SECOND. >> MOTION AND SECOND. MADAM CLERK, PLEASE CALL

>> >> >> KREGER.

>> YES. >> XHAP MAN CHAPMAN, YES. >>

>> >> MILLER. >> YES.

[Item 7.5]

>> 7.4 HAS BEEN PULLED FROM THE AGENDA. 7.5.

CITY COMMISSION RULES OF PROCEDURE AMENDMENT. >> THIS IS AN AMENDMENT TO THE CITY COMMISSION RULES PROCEDURE REGARDING COMMISSION LIAISONS TO ADVISORY BOARDS.

>> COMMISSIONER CHAPMAN. >> MAKE A MOTION TO TABLE. >> I WILL SECOND.

>> THERE'S NO DISCUSSION ON A MOTION TO TABLE. YOU HAVE TO ASK FOR A VOTE.

>> CALL THE VOTE AT THIS >> >>

>> ROSS. >> YES. COMMISSIONER LEDNOVICH.

[Item 8.1]

NO. >> BEFORE I READ THE TITLE TO THE ORDINANCE -- BEFORE I READ THE TITLE TO THE ORDINANCE THIS IS A FRANCHISE AGREEMENT FOR TRANSFER OR ASSIGNMENT OF THE TROLLEYS YOU SEE DOWNTOWN BEING ASSIGND AND TRANSFERRED TO IT SAYS HERE ROGUE ISLAND LLC.

WE WERE MADE AWARE OF THAT. IT'S THE SAME EXACT FOLKS BEHIND IT.

WE SHOULD BE AMENDING TO TITLE TO SAY ANCHOR AMELIA ADVENTURES LLC.

IT'S THE SAME LLC MR. MCCARTHY IS A MEMBER OF AND HAS TWO OTHER PARTNERS.

ANCHOR AMELIA CHARTERS. IT WILL BE ANCHOR AMELIA ADVENTURES LLC.

IT IS A LIMITED LIABILITY COMPANY IN GOOD STANDING. ORDINANCE -- AS SOON AS I READ THE TITLE YOU SHOULD. . PROPOSED ROUTE.

ORDINANCE 2020-02, ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF FERNANDINA BEACH, FLORIDA TO TRANSFER THE NONEXCLUSIVE FRANCHISE AGREEMENT WITH AMELIA ISLAND TROLLEYS LLC AND GRANTING TO ANCHOR AMILIA ADVENTURES LLC FOR THE OPERATION OF A TROLLEY SERVICE PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY, AUTHORIZING

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EXECUTION AND PROVIDING FOR AFFECTIVE DATE. JUST AS A COURTESY, OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING. WE ARE REQUIRED TO DO THAT. IF ANYONE WISHES TO SPEAK, YOU CAN RAISE YOUR HAND. WE REQUIRED AN UPDATED ROUTE TO BE SHOWN TO THE PUBLIC AND THE COMMISSION BEFORE THIS WAS APPROVED. I THINK WE HAVE RATES AND

INSURANCE. IT'S MOSTLY THE ROUTE. >> OKAY.

OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING. AND WE WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.

CITY MANAGER. >> WE DID REQUEST I BELIEVE THE APPLICANT IS HERE TONIGHT.

IF WE HAVE QUESTION, ONE OF THE CONCERNS THAT THE APPLICANT HAS BEEN RESPONSIVE TO OR THERE WAS CONCERNS FROM NEIGHBORHOODS ABOUT THE TROLLEY ROUTE. SO THIS FIRM I THINK YOU HAVE THE MOST SIGNIFICANT CONCERN WAS THE USE OF CEDAR STREET, WHICH IS A COMMONLY USED AREA ESPECIALLY AFTER A VISIT TO THE MUSEUM. SO WHAT THIS ROUTE DOES IS THE RED IF IT'S RED, I'M COLOR BLIND. THESE COLORS ARE FINE.

I BELIEVE THE RED IS NO LONGER TO BE UTILIZED AND INSTEAD SUBSTITUTING THE PURPLE.

>> DID YOU WRITE NOTES ON THERE? >> NO. I'M READING THE NOTES.

I DON'T KNOW WHAT IS RED OR PURPLE. RED IS OLD, PURPLE IS NEW.

SO THIS IS THE CHANGE ROUTE. AND ALSO IT EXTENDS ALL THE WAY DOWN ATLANTA STREET TO FLETCHER AND TURNS AROUND AND HEADS BACK THIS WAY. AND THEY HAVE A TOUR IN OLD TOWN. AS DEPICTED. AND THEN THEY GO BACK TO THE HISTORIC DISTRICT. SO THAT'S THE FULL ROUTE AGAIN TO ADDRESS AND OF THE CONCERNS VOICED BY RESIDENTS OF THE USE OF CEDAR STREET. THEY DID ASK FOR AND GET PERMISSION FROM, THANK YOU TO THE THEATER, THAT IS ALLOWING THEM TO GO AROUND AND ACTUALLY MOVE AROUND THE MUSEUM PAST THE THEATER, BACK ON TO BEACH STREET AND TAKING BEACH STREET ACROSS

IN THE OF CEDAR STREET. UNLESS THERE'S QUESTIONS. >> I HAVE A QUESTION.

WELCOME SIR. >> IF YOU WOULD. THAT WOULD BE GREAT.

HAVE YOU COORDINATED WITH ANOTHER BUSINESS THAT DOES SOMETHING SIMILAR TO THIS.

HAVE YOU WORKED WITH THEM -- I HAVE QUESTIONS WILL THERE BE ONE IN FRONT OF THE OTHER?

WILL THE SAME TROLLEY BE TAKING THE SAME ROUTE? >> I'M AWARE OF ANOTHER VAN TOUR THIS IS OPERATING SERVICES. I THINK OUR SCHEDULES ARE DIFFERENT TO WHERE WE'RE NOT, THERE SHOULDN'T BE A CONFLICT. BUT WE CERTAINLY KNOW THE OWNERS AND HAPPY TO WORK WITH THEM.

>> >> ANYBODY ELSE? >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

>> I APOLOGIZE FOR MY GRAPHIC ART. >> NO, IT'S

I RECOMMEND APPROVAL. >> SECOND. >> I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.

MADAM CLERK CALL THE ROLL. >> KREGER, >> YES.

YOO CHAPMAN, >> YES. LEDNOVICH, YES.

>> ROSS, >> MAYOR MILLER. >> YES.

[Item 9.1]

CONGRATULATIONS GUYS. GOOD LUCK. OKAY.

ON TO SECTION NINE. 9.1. THREE APPOINTMENTS TO PARKS AND REC ADVISORY COMMITTEE. AND THERE ARE THREE OPENINGS, CORRECT?

I MOVE TO APPROVE ALL THREE. >> I SECOND. >> JUST TO BE CLEAR, TWO, IS

THIS REC? TWO REAPPOINTMENTS AND ONE NEW. >> MOVE TO

>> >> >>

>> YES. >> KREGER, >> YES.

CHAPMAN, YES. >> LEDNOVICH, YES. >> MAYOR MILLER.

[Item 9.2]

>> 9.2, HISTORIC DISTRICT COUNCIL. ONE APPOINTMENT HERE.

>> RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF KATES ROBINSON TO THE >> SECOND.

>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. SEEING NO LIGHTS. WE WILL CALL THE LIGHT.

>> SHE'S IN THE AUDIENCE. >> WELCOME. LOOKS LIKE YOU'RE GOING TO BE

>> KREGER, >> YES. >> COMMISSION LEDNOVICH,

>> YES. CHAPMAN, >> YES.

YOO ROSS, >> MAYOR MILLER. >> YES.

>> THANK YOU FOR STEPPING UP. >> OKAY. ON TO SECTION 10.

[Item 10.1]

THIS IS CITY COMMISSION ITEMS. LAND CONSERVATION. THIS ITEM WAS PLACED ON THE

AGENDA BY COMMISSIONER LEDNOVICH. >> THANK YOU.

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MR. MAYOR. TOMORROW THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS WILL CONSIDER OUR LETTER REQUESTING A JOINT EFFORT FOR A CONVERSATION REFERENDUM. SO IF YOU'RE FREE AND YOU WANT TO HEAR THE DISCUSSION, YOU CAN WATCH THE DISCUSSION ON YOUR COMPUTER.

IT'S DOWN IN THE AGENDA, THE MEETING STARTS AT 9:00. I'M THINKING THEY WILL GET TO IT IN AN HOUR OR SO. I DON'T KNOW HOW TALKIE THESE GUYS ARE.

>> COMMISSIONER ROSS. >> JUST TO LET YOU KNOW, WE DID HAVE A CONVERSATION TODAY.

YOU MIGHT WANT TO KNOW ABOUT THE CONVERSATION. YOU NEED A LITTLE UPDATE.

>> WE SPOKE WITH THE CITY MANAGER AND THE CITY ATTORNEY AND THE CITY MANAGER AND I, I

THINK IF YOU WANT TO GO OVER YOUR NOTES ON THAT ONE. >> THE INTENT IS THEY WILL NOT BE ABLE TO PROPORTIONALLY DISEMANATE OR DISTRIBUTE THEIR BOND FOR LEGAL REASONS.

>> OKAY. THEY CITED LEGAL CONCERNS BECAUSE IT'S HARD TO DISEMANATE

PARTS OF THE CITY. >> THEY NEED TO FIGURE OUT WHAT IT IS WE'RE GOING TO PROPOSE.

HOW WE'RE GOING TO WORD IT. >> NOW WE MOVE FORWARD WITH OUR OWN GRANT.

I THINK THE CITIZEN SURVEY SHOW. WE SHOULD GET THAT DOWN AND MAKE IT SO IT'S OFFICIAL.

>> CAN WE HAVE AN AGENDA ITEM FOR THAT? >> SURE.

COMMISSIONER ROSS YOU RECOMMEND. >> I'M GOING TOMORROW JUST SO, SPEAKING AS MYSELF NOT AS A CITY COMMISSION TO TELL THEM I'M VERY DISAPPOINTED IN THEIR DECISION. I THINK THAT, THERE'S A WAY AROUND, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THEIR LEGAL RAMIFICATION IS, BUT WHERE THERE'S A WILL THERE'S A WAY.

AND I AM JUST VERY DISAPPOINTED BECAUSE WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TWO REFERENDUMS THERE.

THERE'S COMPETITION THERE. IT WAS THE CITY RESIDENTS OR BIG SUPPORTERS OF LAND CONSERVATION AND WOULD HAVE BEEN VERY HELPFUL IN HAVING THEM PASS THE REFERENDUM AND NOW WE HAVE TWO COMPETING. I'M TOTALLY DISAPPOINTED THEY COULDN'T FIGURE OUT SOMETHING.

I WILL GET UP AND SAY THAT. THE FIRST THING I WILL SAY, I'M SPEAK FIGURE ARE MYSELF.

>> YOU'RE REPEATING VERBATIM. YOU GO RIGHT AHEAD. VICE MAYOR KREGER.

>> WHAT I'M HEARING, WE WILL MOVE FORWARD WITH OUR OWN REFERENDUM FOR THE NOVEMBER

ELECTION. >> THAT'S WHAT I'M HEARING. >> I NEED TO KNOW.

WE HAVE UNTIL JUNE TO DO FIRST READING AND ORDINANCE WITH THAT. >> SO AND POINT OUT TOO, THAT I AGREE THAT TWO REFERENDUMS MAY IS NOT THE BEST THING BUT WE WILL ALSO BE A PART OF THE

COUNTY REFERENDUM TOO. >> SO IF BOTH WERE PASSED, WE WOULD BE IN REALLY GOOD SHAPE.

>> THANK YOU. >> I WAS CONFUSED WHETHER I HAD IT OR NOT.

>> THE MIC CAME ON. >> OKAY. THE SECOND ITEM I WANT TO TALK ABOUT IS, I TOLD MISS BEAN. SO IF YOU HAVE BEEN READING THE NEWS LATELY, THE PARCEL ON GATEWAY THAT WOODED PARCEL BY THE MEXICAN RESTAURANT. THERE WAS A PERMIT LET ON THAT FOR A 93-ROOM HOLIDAY INN EXPRESS. EVEN THOUGH THAT'S BEEN IN PLANNING FOR MY UNDERSTANDING 20 YEARS, OR LONGER, IT'S COLD WATER IN THE FACE OF RESIDENTS WHEN THEY SEE A HEAVILY WOODED LOT ADJACENT TO THE RIVER THAT'S GOING TO BE OCCUPIED BY A HOTEL.

THAT WAS FOLLOWED BY THE 30 TOWNHOUSES ON THE STANDARD MARINE PROPERTY THAT CAME BEFORE THE TECHNICAL REVIEW AND EIGHT MORE ON THE TAYLOR RENTAL PROPERTY.

SO, ABOUT FIVE OR SIX MONTHS AGO, WE HAD ACTUALLY DISCUSSED BRIEFLY A MORATORIUM.

THE CITY ATTORNEY SAID WE WERE ALLOWED TO DO THAT. BUT WE DIDN'T DO IT BECAUSE OF ALL THE CONFLICTS IN THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP. AND SO, IF I REMEMBER THAT CONVERSATION CORRECTLY, WE DECIDED ONCE WE HAD THOSE CONFLICTS RESOLVED, WE WOULD

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REVISIT THIS TOPIC. SO I'M BRINGING IT UP TO BE REVISITED AND WOULD LOVE COMMENTS FROM MY FELLOW COMMISSIONERS ON THEIR FEELING ON A MORATORIUM.

>> THERE'S A LIGHT. VICE MAYOR KREGER AND ROSS YOU'RE ON DECK.

I WILL NOT SUPPORT A MORATORIUM. >> LET'S MAKE SURE WE'RE ON THE DISCUSSION ITEM.

BEFORE MAKING DECISIONS ON THIS ITEM, WE CAN ALWAYS PUT IT ON THE AGENDA.

WE DECIDED DURING THESE ITEMS, WE DON'T MAKE DECISIONS. >> NO, THAT'S TRUE.

I MEAN -- >> I WOULD SUGGEST IT WOULD BE AN ITEM WE HAVE AS AN AGENDA

ITEM. >> I AGREE. WE CAN GET INTO DISCUSSION.

>> YES, SIR. AND WE CAN GIVE THE PUBLIC A CHANCE TO SPEAK.

00 IT IS A BIG ISSUE AND WE DEFINITELY NEED THIS TO ADVERTISE AND HAVE PEOPLE SPEAK

ON. YOUR RECOMMENDATION, SIR. >> I HAVE A QUESTION.

WHAT IS IT YOU WANT TO ACCOMPLISH, FIRST OF ALL, HOW LONG WOULD YOU HAVE A MORATORIUM

ON BUILDING PERMITS PERIOD? >> NO BUILDING PERMITS. YOU CAN'T FIX A HOUSE?

>> NO. >> THAT'S IMPORTANT DETAIL. YOU MEAN ON NEW CONSTRUCTION? BUILDING PERMITS? DO YOU MEAN A MORATORIUM ON COMMERCIAL CONSTRUCTION.

WHEN YOU SAY MORATORIUM, I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO SAY WHAT YOU MEAN A MORATORIUM OF.

THE SECOND ISSUE, AND THIS IS UNDER FLORIDA LAW, YOU CAN ONLY DO IT FOR A SET PERIOD OF TIME.

WHAT IS IT, AND I WISH THAT YOU WOULD SPEAK TO THIS TONIGHT SO I CAN THINK ABOUT IT, WHAT WOULD YOU WANT TO ACCOMPLISH DURING THAT YEAR? A LOT OF PROPERTIES YOU BROUGHT UP ARE IN THE COUNTY WE HAVE NO INFLUENCE OVER THAT. SO WHAT WOULD YOU WANT TO DO

DURING THAT YEAR? >> OKAY. YEAH.

THAT'S A FAIR QUESTION. >> FIRST OF ALL, THE TWO PROPERTIES I MENTIONED ARE ALL

IN THE CITY. >> THE HOLIDAY INN IS IN THE CITY.

>> THAT WAS ANNEXED IN GATEWAY. I HAD THE SAME QUESTIO. IT WAS HARD TO TELL BY A MAP.

>> BELIEVE ME, I LOOKED AT IT. THAT'S IN THE CITY. I'M RAISING IN ISSUE BECAUSE WE TALKED ABOUT IT FIVE OR SIX MONTHS AGO THE POSSIBILITY OF DOING IT.

WHAT I'M REALLY LOOKING FOR IS TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTIONS, WHAT WOULD WE WANT TO ACCOMPLISH IF WE DID IT? SO, WHY WOULD YOU DO IT AND SHOULD WE DO IT?

THAT'S WHAT I'M LOOKING FOR FROM MY FOUR OTHER FELLOWS. >> IF THERE'S NO REASON TO DO IT, WE JUST DROP IT. I THINK IT'S FAIR TO OUR RESIDENTS TO AT LEAST ADDRESS IT. THE CITY IS AT 42%. RECREATION AND CONSERVATION.

WE HAVEN'T PURCHASED THAT, THOSE THREE PROPERTIES WON'T BE THAT SIGNIFICANT.

THERE'S NOMINATIONS FOR OTHER LAND. YOU KNOW, I DON'T THINK THAT IT'S APPROPRIATE TO IMPOSE A MORATORIUM ON PEOPLE WHO WANT TO BUILD ON THEIR PROPERTY.

EVERYBODY HERE, EVERYBODY HERE, LIVES IN WHAT WAS A MARITIME FOREST IN THE DUNES OR IN THE WETLANDS. I JUST DON'T THINK THAT WE NEED TO DO THAT, THERE'S NOT GOING TO BE MUCH PROPERTY. I THINK IT'S AN IMPOSITION TO PRIVATE PROPERTY FOR A TOWN THAT'S DONE AN EXCELLENT JOB. I KNOW PEOPLE DON'T AGREE WITH IT.

LOOK AT THE MAP. IF YOU REALLY WANT TO SEE FLY OVER IN GOOGLE.

SEE IF YOU CAN SEE YOUR HOUSE. YOU PROBABLY WILL NOT SEE YOUR HOUSE.

>> WELL THE MAP BEHIND IS THE REPRESENTATION OF THE LIGHT GREEN AREA.

>> I THINK IT'S A GOOD IDEA TO PUT ON AN AGENDA ITEM AND BRING IT UP.

NO PROBLEM WITH THAT. I WILL POINT OUT THE BUILD OUT ON THIS ISLAND ALTHOUGH KIND OF STILL WRESTLING WITH IT IS PROBABLY, THERE ARE NO BIG DEVELOPABLE PARCELS LEFT.

THE STANDARD MARINE. IT WAS A 34 LOTS, THEY CAN DEVELOP IT.

THE HOTEL I WASN'T AWARE OF. WHAT WAS THE OTHER ONE? TAYLOR RENTAL.

THAT WAS EXACTLY WHAT THEY SPENT ALL THESE MEETINGS BEFORE. I WENT TO ALL THESE MEETINGS.

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THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT THEY WANTED TO HAPPEN AND IT'S HAPPENING. THAT'S THE WHOLE NUA WAS DESIGNED TO DO, TO BRING IN RESIDENTIAL, SUPPOSED TO BE RESIDENTIAL AND COMMERCIAL.

THE POINT IS, AND THE NUMBER MS. GIBSON USED IS 900 BUILDABLE LOTS.

MOST HAVE ENVIRONMENTALLY-SENSITIVE LAND USING OUR DEFINITION AND I THINK THE ONLY REALLY WAY TO STOP, TO QUOTE MANAGE DEVELOPMENT IS TO BUY THE LAND.

I'M MORE THAN HAPPY TO LISTEN TO THE COMMENTS ABOUT DEVELOPMENT. BUT THAT'S BASICALLY THE DILEMMA WE'RE IN. SO, WE HAVE -- THAT'S WHERE WE ARE.

>> COMMISSIONER CHAPMAN. I AGREE MY CONCERN IS WE STOP INDIVIDUAL HOMEOWNERS.

I GET LOTS OF E-MAILS FROM PEOPLE WHO SAY, I MOVED HERE TWO YEARS AGO.

IF WE HAD BEEN EARLIER OR THE PREVIOUS COMMISSION WOULD BE EARLIER ON THE MORATORIUM, THEY WOULDN'T BE HERE. I THINK THAT WE NEED TO BE CAREFUL BECAUSE IT IS THE INDIVIDUAL HOMEOWNER. I THINK WE'RE GOING TO BLOCK, AND AS COMMISSIONER ROSS SAID.

WE DON'T HAVE THAT MANY LARGE LOTS LEFT. >> IT'S GOING TO AFFECT POTENTIALLY AND I'M NOT SAYING THIS IS GOOD OR BAD, THE CITY CANNOT EXEMPT ITSELF.

YOU CANNOT SAY RESIDENTIAL IS OKAY, BUT COMMERCIAL IS NOT. IT'S ACROSS THE BOARD.

NEW CONSTRUCTION I CAN LIVE WITH LEGALLY. BUT WILL INCLUDE ANY NEW

CONSTRUCTION FOR THE CITY. >> INCLUDING WEST ROCK AND >> YEAH.

>> AND INDUSTRIAL. >> SO, THOSE ARE ALL THINGS TO CONSIDER.

I THINK WE SHOULD TALK ABOUT IT. >> I DO REQUEST TO SPEAK ON THIS.

WE WILL HAVE THIS AS AN AGENDA ITEM AND WILL HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK ON THIS.

THIS CAME UP LAST MINUTE. >> THANKS FOR LETTING ME SPEAK. >> MARION PHILLIPS.

HERE IN FERNANDINA BEACH. I AM GLAD YOU BROUGHT THAT SUBJECT UP AND MS. BEAN, THANK YOU FOR BEING BRAVE ENOUGH TO BRING IT UP. IT DID COME UP ON FACEBOOK THIS WEEK. PERSONALLY, I KNOW THAT EVERYBODY HAS A RIGHT TO BUILD WHEN THEY BUY THE PROPERTY. BUT I WAS VERY MUCH APPALLED ABOUT STANDARD MARINE BUILDING.

THAT BUILDING, I KNOW THEY'RE GOING TO LEAVE IT, BUT TO PUT HOUSES ON STILTS AROUND IT, JUST ME VISIONING THAT IS UGLY. AND WE NEED AFFORDABLE HOUSING HERE.

THE PEOPLE THAT ARE BUYING THESE LOTS AND THESE DEVELOPERS HAVE A LOT OF MONEY.

AND I MEAN THERE'S NOTHING FOR PEOPLE THAT LIKE TEACHERS. THEY CAN'T AFFORD $1,700 A MONTH. SO, I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S GOING TO MORATORIUM.

I'M NEW TO THIS AND DON'T REALLY KNOW. SOMETHING NEEDS TO BE DONE TO SLOW THIS BUILDING DOWN. WE DON'T NEED ALL THESE CONDOS AND TOWN HOMES.

IT'S NOT PRETTY FOR THE CITY. THIS IS MY DREAM WHAT I THOUGHT WOULD BE GOOD FOR STANDARD MARINE AND IT'S TOO LATE. THE WHOLE TOP SECTION TO BE A VENUE FOR WEDDINGS OR PARTIES.

WE HAVE NOTHING LOCALLY HERE TO DO THAT. THEY COULD SEE THE WATER.

AND SEE THE SUNSET WHEN THEY'RE GETTING MARRIED OR HAVING A MATTER AND THE WHOLE UNDERNEATH COULD BE SHOPS. SO THAT PEOPLE COULD HAVE LIKE IN SAVANNA WHERE YOU GO SHOPPING DOWN ON THE WATER. YOU CAN GO DOWN AND HAVE SHOPS. I MEAN THAT'S A DREAM AND IT'S GONE. I JUST HAD TO SAY THAT TONIGHT. I DON'T KNOW WHAT WE CAN DO AS A CITY BUT SOMETHING REALLY NEEDS TO BE DONE. AND BACK OFF ON SOME OF THIS STUFF. IT'S GOT TO STOP. BECAUSE THEY'RE DESTROYING WHAT PEOPLE COME HERE FOR. PEOPLE COME HERE FOR THE GOOD, SMALL FEEL.

EVENTUALLY, WE'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE THE GOOD SMALL FEEL HERE ANYMORE.

IT'S GOING TO BE A BUNCH OF RICH PEOPLE WITH ALL THIS MONEY LIVING HERE AND WE'RE THE POOR PEOPLE, I CONSIDER MYSELF POOR AND I'M JUST GOING TO BE ABLE TO WORK AND THAT'S IT AND GO HOME AND ENJOY MY HOME. I HAD TO SAY THANK YOU.

>> COMMISSIONER ROSS. >> I ACTUALLY TALKED TO THE DEVELOPER --

>> DO YOU WANT ME TO COME BACK UP HERE? >> I WILL JUST GIVE YOU MORE

INFORMATION. >> DO YOU HAVE A QUESTION? NO, I DON'T HAVE A QUESTION.

THEY DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY'RE GOING TO DO WITH THAT BUILDING. FIRST OF ALL, THEY HAVEN'T EVEN

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CLOSED ON THE PROPERTY. >> WELL, I WISH -- SPEAKING OFF MICROPHONE.

>> BUT AT THE TRC MEETING, YOU WERE THERE, MIKE. THEY BASICALLY SAID WE DON'T KNOW WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO WITH THE BUILDING. WE WANT TO PRESERVE IT, WHICH I WAS THANKFUL FOR. BUT HOPEFULLY THEY WILL. WHAT THEY WERE GOING TO DO WITH IT AND ONE OF THE THINGS THEY TALKED ABOUT WAS USING THE VENUE ON THE SECOND FLOOR.

SO, JUST TO BRING YOU UP-TO-DATE WHAT THEY SAID AT TRC. THANK YOU, SIR.

>> THAT'S ALL I HAVE ON >> MR. MARTIN? >> YES.

IF I COULD INVITE MS. GIBSON UP. >> SURE. AND JUST TO JUMP AHEAD.

THE TREE CANOPY PLAN IN PORT WILL BE PROVIDING US TO >> GREAT.

>> IS THAT THE STUDY? WHERE THEY'RE LOOKING CANOPY?

>> CORRECT. >> THE ANALYSIS ASSOCIATED WITH CANOPY COVERAGE.

GOOD EVENING. KELLY GIBSON. THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING ME TO SPEAK. I HAVE THE EXTREME HONOR TO INFORM YOU THE CITY RECEIVED A CONSERVATION LAND TRUST VERY GENEROUS DONATION IN THE AMOUNT OF

>> WOW.

THEIR INTENT TO PROVIDE AN ADDITIONAL $100,000 THROUGH A MATCHING DONATION PROGRAM.

THEY HAVE SET SOME ESTABLISHED PARAMETERS FOR THE MATCHING COLLECTION IN THAT INDIVIDUAL DONATIONS WILL BE MATCHED UP TO $1,000 PER DON OR. ORGANIZATION DONATIONS WILL BE MATCHED UP TO $5,000 PER DONOR AND THE MATCHING WILL END AUGUST 15, 2020.

FOR THE CITY SIDE, INDIVIDUAL AND ORGANIZATIONS WISHING TO DONATE MAY DIRECT FUNDS TO ESTATE OF FERNANDINA BEACH. IF YOU DO THIS BY CHECK OR THROUGH A COVER LETTER, PLEASE INCLUDE LAND CONSERVATION TRUST FUND ACCOUNT AND YOU CAN REFERENCE 135 AND INDICATE THIS IS A MATCHING DONATION. ALL CHECKS CAN BE MAILED AT 204 ASH STREET.

THE CITY WILL MAINTAIN A LOG AND PROVIDE AN UPDATE TO THE COMMISSION AT FUTURE MEETINGS.

THE CITY IS NOT A CHARITABLE ORGANIZATION AND THIS DONATION CANNOT BE USED FOR CHARITIABLE TAX PURPOSES. ALTHOUGH THE DONOR HAS WISHED TO REMAIN COMPLETELY ANONYMOUS, THEY REQUESTED THESE STATEMENTS BE RED. THIS IS DIRECT QUOTE FROM THEM.

WITH OUR GIFT AND MATCHING OPPORTUNITY, WE'RE HOPING TO JUMP START A BETTER CONSERVATION EFFORT AMONG THE GENERAL POPULATION OF FERNANDINA BEACH. MORE AWARENESS AND PARTICIPATION. WE ARE WILLING TO SPEND SOME OF OUR CHILDREN'S INHERITANCE TO MAKE FOR A BETTER COMMUNITY FOR THEM AND FUTURE GENERATIONS. WE HOPE THIS MATCH CAMPAIGN WILL LINE NICELY WITH THE PROPOSED BALLOT INITIATIVE IN THE FALL TO MAKE THE CONSERVATION TAX PERMANENT. LET OUR GIFT AND MATCHING GIFT BE USED.

WE ARE OPENING WE OWE YOU ANOTHER $100,000 AND GIVE THE CITIZENS OF FERNANDINA BEACH USING THEIR COLLECTIVE CHECKBOOKS.

. >> WE WILL CRAFT A PRESS RELEASE TO GIVE TO THE LOCAL MEDIA.

SO MS. GIBSON IS WORKING ON THAT. >> FACEBOOK NEEDS TO BLOW THAT

UP TOO. >> I HAD ONE MORE THING ON CONSERVATION.

AS LIAISON TO THE PLANNING BOARD, THEY WILL RECOMMEND INCREASING THE PENALTY FOR THE UNLAWFUL REMOVAL OF A TREE TO $5,000 PLUS REPLACEMENT OF THE TREE AND REWRITING THE ORDINANCE. SO THAT WILL BE COMING.

>> MS. TESTAGROSE. HOW MANY DONATIONS HAVE BEEN MADE BY PRIVATE DONORS?

ONE PRIOR FOR $50. >> THAT'S A GOOD BASELINE. THIS IS NEEDED AS A JUMP START.

THERE'S A LOT OF ORGANIZATIONS OUT THERE. THIS IS THE APPROPRIATE TIME TO DO IT NOW. THAT'S GREAT. THE MOMENT WE SEE THE ORDINANCE

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COME FORWARD. >> MS. GIBSON WILL HAVE CONTROL OF THAT.

WHEN WILL WE SEE CHANGES? APPROXIMATELY THREE WEEKS. >> MARCH 23RD.

>> MARCH THIRD. >> FANTASTIC. WE WILL TALK ABOUT WHAT THEY

WERE BEFORE. >> AND I WAS NOT ABLE TO ATTEND THAT BECAUSE I COULDN'T BE IN TALLAHASSEE AND HERE AT THE SAME TIME. IF THE PLANNING BOARD RECOMMENDED FIVE FOR THE MINIMUM, I WILL TELL YOU IN SOME RESEARCH WE ACTUALLY HAD AN ATTORNEY GENERAL'S OPINION THAT WAS REQUESTED BY A PRIOR CITY MANAGER WESLEY POOL IN 2000 I BELIEVE AND THAT'S WHERE THE ATTORNEY GENERAL FOUND THAT I THINK IT'S $12,500 WAS AN APPROPRIATE TOP FEE AND I'M WILLING TO DEFEND THE CITY FOR $15,000 FEE FOR THE TOP.

SO IF THEY DIDN'T TALK ABOUT THE TOP FEE, WE CAN INCREASE THE TOP FEE TO $15,000.

>> THAT'S AN IMPORTANT NUMBER. WE TALKED A LOT ABOUT THE TIME TO AVOID PREEMPTIONS AND THEY PULL YOU DOWN THE ROAD. DEVELOPERS ARE HOPING YOU MAKE THAT POINT AND SAY LOOK HOW CRAZY THIS TOWN IS. THEY ARE KILLING THIS. THAT'S GREAT.

THAT WAS THE STATE ATTORNEY. >> IT'S ATTORNEY GENERAL'S OPINION.

THE OTHER THING IS WE HAVE A SEPARATE CATEGORY I CAN DISCUSS THIS WITH YOU WHEN IT COMES BACK AS ORDINANCE. WE HAVE A SEPARATE FINE. THAT I DON'T THINK HAS, I DON'T THINK $15,000 SHOULD BE THE LIMIT FOR DESIGNATED HERITAGE TREE.

WHEN WE DESIGNATE A HERITAGE TREE, WE HAVE INTENT, PURPOSE, SCOPE, WRITTEN INTO OUR ORDINANCE I THINK THOSE LIMITS THAT ARE PER TREE TYPE OF THINGS WOULD NOT APPLY TO HERITAGE TREE. IT'S DESIGNATED AS SPECIAL THING.

>> GREAT. COMMISSIONER LEDNOVICH. >> IF MEMORY SERVES ME CORRECT,

THE HERITAGE TREE WAS $25,000. >> I DON'T REMEMBER. I DON'T KNOW WHY $50,000 IS IN

MY HEAD. >> WE WILL SEE. GOOD NEWS.

>> OKAY. 10 -- ARE YOU GOOD WITH THAT? 10.2: MR. LEDNOVICH, YOU HAVE

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THE FLOOR. >> AS YOU ARE AWARE, THE CONCEPT E OF THE WATERFRONT PARK WAS PRESENTED TO SEVERAL BOARDS. ONE OF THEM BEING PARKS AND REC. AS MUCH AS COMMISSIONER ROSS WAS ALSO IN ATTENDANCE AT THAT MEETING, AND AS MUCH AS WE INDIVIDUALLY ATTEMPTED, TO KEEP THEM OUT OF THE WEEDS, THEY WENT INTO THE WEEDS. RESULTING IN SUCH THINGS AS A THREE-PAGE MEMO WITH BULLET POINTS. BUT THE RESULT, THE 30 THOUSAND FOOT RESULT IS THE FOLLOWING. THE MOST OBJECTIONS TO THE ELEMENTS IN THE PARK WERE THE TWO STORY LEASE BUILD EVENTS CENTER AND THE CAPACITY OF 800 PEOPLE.

SO THAT WAS THE CENTRAL ITEM OF DISCUSSION AMONG THAT GROUP. AND ONE, IF YOU HAD AN EVENT SPACE FOR 800 PEOPLE, WHERE WERE THEY GOING TO PARK? TWO, THE BUILDING WOULD BE OF SUCH SIZE, THE BUILDING WOULD BE THE FOCAL POINT OF THE PARK AND NOT THE ACTUAL PARK ITSELF.

THEN, OF COURSE, THE VIEW LINE. IT WOULD BLOCK THE INTENDED VIEW OF THE RIVER.

SO THAT WAS THE NUMBER ONE OBJECTION. THE SECOND MOST COMMON ASPECT WAS PARKING AND WHERE THE BOAT, CAR PARKING WAS ALL THE WAY DOWN THE END IF YOU REMEMBER THE CONCEPT DOWN BY THE TOP PORTS. AND THAT THERE WAS NOT ENOUGH SPACE IN THAT AREA TO BRING A TRAILER IN AND MANEUVER IT OUT. SO, RECONFIGURING THAT DESIGN. SO THAT, THOSE WERE THE MAJOR CRITICISMS OF CONCEPT D. IF I MISSED ANYTHING, COMMISSIONER ROSS, PLEASE ADD.

>> THEY HAD A LOT OF CONCERNS, THEY WERE ALL PUT IN PAPER. IT'S FINE.

AND THAT'S ALL I HAVE. >> COMMISSIONER CHAPMAN. >> AT THE LEAST MEETING.

>> WHILE YOU WERE -- >> EVERYBODY ELSE WAS IN TOWN. I WATCHED IT AND THOUGHT WHEN

THIS CAME UP, THEY DIDN'T HAVE A QUORUM. >> THEY STARTED WITH A QUORUM.

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>> RIGHT. BEEN THEN ONE MEMBER LEFT AND SO BEFORE THEY DISCUSSED THE WATERFRONT, I DON'T REMEMBER THEM HAVING A QUORUM. AND I DON'T REMEMBER THEM

DISCUSSING THIS WATERFRONT. >> IT WAS THE VERY FIRST NIGHT. >> THEY MOVED IT.

>> I DIDN'T REALIZE THAT PART. >> I WENT TO WHERE IT WAS ON THE AGENDA.

>> THANK YOU. THEY KNEW THE CHAIR WOMAN HAD TO LEAVE SO THEY MOVED IT TO THE

FIRST ITEM. >> THANK YOU FOR THAT. APPRECIATE IT.

>> THANK YOU, SIR. THAT CONCLUDES YOUR ITEM? >> 10.3, BEACHES.

[Item 10.3]

THIS ITEM WAS REQUESTED BY COMMISSIONER KREGER. YOU HAVE THE FLOOR.

>> I JUST HAVE THREE BRIEF ITEMS AND BASICALLY THEY'RE INFORMATION.

THE FIRST IS THE BEACH HABITAT CONSERVATION PLAN. WE HAVE BEEN MOVED FORWARD.

THAT'S A JOINT AMELIA ITEM RFP FOR BEACH CONSERVATION PLAN CONSISTENT WITH THE ENDANGERED SPECIES. THEY WERE FOUR RRP, WHICH EXCELLENT FOR CONSULTANTS.

THE SELECTION WAS MADE ON THE 12TH OF FEBRUARY. I RECOMMENDED TODAY IT COME BACK TO THIS COMMISSION ON THE THIRD OF MARCH FOR A DECISION, THE COUNTY WILL ALSO HAVE TO DECIDE IT AND AT THE JOINT COMMISSION, PLANNING COMMISSION, MARCH 25TH, WE CAN TALK ABOUT IT.

WE HAVE SENSE COMMUNICATED WITH THE FWC. THEY ADMINISTER OR SUBMIT FOR U.S. FISH AND WILDLIFE GRANTS. SO WE WILL NOT SUBMIT. WE WILL BE A PART OF THEIR GRANT. WHAT WAS POSITIVE ABOUT THAT WAS IN ADDITION TO THE CONSERVATION PLANNING GRANT, THERE'S ALSO A CONSERVATION LAND ACQUISITION GRANT.

WHICH WOULD BE A PART OF. WHICH WILL ACTUALLY, IT WOULD BE VERY POSITIVE ON ACQUIRING LAND INCLUDING TO THE WEST SIDE OF FLETCHER. THE NEXT ONE IS BEACH RENOURISHMENT. WE'RE COMPLETED THIS YEAR'S RENOURISHMENT PROJECT.

IT WAS A $15 MILLION PROJECT. BUT IN REALITY, IT'S TOTALLY NAVY FUNDED AND 2000 FEET OF BENCH FILL. THERE WILL BE A PROJECT NEXT YEAR ANOTHER NAVY FUNDED PROJECT WHICH WILL BE ON FORT BENCH AND DEPENDING ON SURVEYS, WILL AND BACK INTO THE CITY AND START JUST NORTH OF NORTH BEACH PARK AND COME DOWN. THIS IS ALL BASED ON SAND AVAILABLE. THE ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT IS IN WASHINGTON, D.C. FOR APPROVAL AND THAT'S THE PLAN THEY PRESENTED TO US. THAT WILL BE IN MY OPINION, TWO, THREE YEARS AWAY AT BEST. BECAUSE IT MAY INVOLVE ADDITIONAL EASEMENTS.

WE HAVE 320 EASEMENTS NOW TO DO THIS AND DO IT. IT MIGHT REQUIRE MORE, WHICH IS CAN BE AN IMMINENT DOMAIN. THE NEXT IS THE BEACH WALK OVERS.

WE ALL GOT THE E-MAILS FROM NAN ABOUT 8, 9 AND SOUTH THAT BASICALLY THE DEP PERMITS ARE EXISTING AND WAITING FOR CITY PERMITS AND WILL START. LUCKILY THIS WEEK WE'VE GOT THE GRANT BACK FROM THE STATE. THESE ARE STATE FUNDED, THESE THREE AND WE HAVE ALREADY LOST FOUR TO SIX MONTHS OF CONSTRUCTION BECAUSE THEY CAN'T BE CONSTRUCTED AFTER SEA TURTLE SEASON. WE HAVE UNTIL JUNE 22ND IN NECESSARY FOR THESE.

THE PROBLEM ONE IS 5 SOUTH WHICH WAS TOTALLY FUNDED BY THE FDEP, WE'RE ALREADY BEING PENALIZED.

THEY EXTENDED TO THE FIRST OF APRIL. ONCE THE CITY PERMIT COMES, WE CAN TAKE A LOOK AND THAT WILL BE THE FIRST ONE WE DO. ONE ADVANTAGE TALLAHASSEE WAS FUN BUT THE GOOD THING ABOUT TALLAHASSEE IN MY MIND IS OUR $500,000 BEACH WALK OVER REQUEST IS STILL ALIVE AND WILL GO TO THE JOINT COMMITTEES AND BECAUSE WE HAVE CONTRACTED THAT, WE'RE IN GOOD, YOU KNOW, WE MAY GET OUR STORMWATER IS DEAD BECAUSE WE STILL GOT 2017 MONEY WE HAVEN'T SPENT. THE NEXT ITEM I TRIED TO BRING UP TWO OR THREE TIMES.

WALK OVER SOUTH, WE HAVE 16 WALK OVER SOUTH OF SADLER. THEY RANGE FROM 325 TO 500 FEET.

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IF WE DID THESE WALK OVERS, YOU KNOW THE WHOLE WALKOVER WOULD COST APPROXIMATELY $5 MILLION.

IF WE DID THEM AT ONCE. GOING BACK TO MARCH WHEN WE HAD THE INSPECTION.

WE CLOSED 12. RIPPED OUT FOUR OF THE LONG WALK OVERS AND WE FIXED THE REST.

BUT WE STILL HAVE DOWN THERE SEVEN WALK OVERS THAT ARE IN FAIR CONDITION AND ONLY ONE OF THOSE IS IN CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN IN FIVE YEARS. MY CONCERN IS WE DON'T MOVE ON AND GET INTO ANOTHER CRISIS, I THINK THAT CAN BE ALLEVIATED AND THE CITY MANAGER CERTAINLY KNOWS HOW TO DO THAT. THE KEY THOUGH IS WHAT DO WE WANT TO DO? WITH THESE WALKOVERS? AND MY RECOMMENDATION WOULD BE WE LOOK AT REMEMBER WHAT THEY DID, THEY HAVE THE WALK OVER, YOU WALK THROUGH THE SAND WITH GUIDED PER THE DEP ALLOWANCES.

GET TO THE FRONTAL DUNE AND PROTECT THAT. MUCH MORE COST-EFFECTIVE SIGNIFICANT. BUT I WOULD ADD A FULL WALK-OVER WHICH WOULD GIVE US FOUR, FIVE ACTUAL ADA WALK OVERS. IT WOULD BE SOMEWHERE MOST SUITABLE.

FULL ADA, FULL RAMP LIKE EXAMPLE 35 S. WHICH WAS ONE THEY TORE OUT.

ALL OF THOSE 16 WALK-OVERS, ONLY O ACTUALLY GOES OVER THE FRONTAL DUNE. THERE WAS A LARGE GAP BECAUSE THE DUNE WAS NOT TREATED LIKE WE WANT THEM TO DO. I THINK A DECISION ON DIRECTING WHAT DO WE WANT TO DO? AND WE SHOULD DO THAT NOW BECAUSE WE'RE ACTUALLY IN THE PROCESS OF THE FIVE-YEAR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN. YOU KNOW. I WE'RE GOING TO DO ALL RAMPS, FINE. AT $5 MILLION, IT WOULDN'T BE THE FIRST YEAR.

YOU PUT THEM IN THE FIVE-YEAR PLAN. I'M CONCERNED THAT WE STILL HAVE SEVEN THAT WERE FAIR AND WE FIXED THE FIVES AND FOURS. WE'RE GOING TO COME UP IF WE'RE

NOT CAREFUL. THAT'S WHAT I HAVE ON BEACHES. >> MR. ROSS.

>> I WAS WONDERING. THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN CALLS FOR DUNE MANAGEMENT PLAN.

WE SEEM TO BE DOING THIS A PIECEMEAL FUNCTION AND YOU MENTIONED AND IT'S PROBABLY A LOW-BALL ESTIMATE TO PUT WALK-OVERS IS PROBABLY IN EXCESS OF $5 MILLION.

INSTEAD OF US DOING THIS PIECEMEAL, WE REFER THIS TO THE PLANNING BOARD AND HAVE THEM PUT TOGETHER A SUB COMMITTEE. HAVE THEM TAKE CARE OF PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY TO COME IN AND MUCH LIKE WITH EIGHTH STREET AND OTHER THINGS, AND COME UP WITH A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN IS THAT TAKES

CARE OF THE BEACH FRONT. >> I'M GOOD WITH THAT. >> YOU'RE GOOD WITH THAT.

>> YOU'RE GOOD WITH THAT. >> IS EVERYBODY ELSE GOOD WITH THAT? IS ANYBODY NOT GOOD WITH THAT? GOOD. GOT A PLAN.

>> MS. GIBSON JUST RAISED HER HAND. NOT GOOD WITH THAT.

>> I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE GET INPUT FOR WHETHER WE'RE ARE GOING TO HAVE, IT'S NOT A -- IF IT'S A GOOD ESTIMATE BASED ON LAST ESTIMATE, WHETHER, WHAT THE COMMUNITY AND WHEN THEY THINK ABOUT, DO THEY AGREE WITH ME THEY WOULD TO ADD ONE ADA AND THE REST BECOME WALK THROUGHS TO THE FRONTAL DUNES OR DO THEY THINK IT'S APPROPRIATE WE HAVE MORE OR LESS?

>> I WOULD GO BACK AGAIN TO MAKE DECISIONS DURING DISCUSSION ITEMS.

>> COMMISSIONER CHAPMAN. >> YOU MENTIONED ADA RAMPS AND THINGS.

IF WE'RE GOING TO PLAN ADA WALK-OVERS, WE HAVE TO PLAN WHEN YOU GET TO THE WATER SIDE OF THE RAMP, WE DO HAVE MOBY MATS AT MAIN BEACH. BUT IF YOU DON'T HAVE SOMETHING LIKE A MOBY MAT, A PERSON IN A WHEEL CHAIR GETS TO THE END OF THE RAMP AND THAT'S AS FAR AS THEY GO. AND THOSE ARE NOT CHEAP. SO WHEN WE ARE LOOKING AT THE TOTAL COST OF THESE THINGS, I THINK WE HAVE TO ADD THAT COST INTO IT AGAIN, OTHERWISE WE'RE

SHORT CHANGING THE PROJECT. >> RIGHT NOW, THE ADA ACCESS AT NORTH BEACH PARK IS USELESS.

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YOU CAN DOWN IN THE MIDDLE OF THE DUNES. THE ADA ACCESS IS USELESS.

YOU COME DOWN AND CAN'T GET ANYWHERE NEAR THE BEACH. THE ADA AT POTASUS ISN'T MARKED.

THE ONLY AFFECTIVE ADA WITH MAPS IS THE BEACH. I THINK WE HAVE TO FIX THAT.

I AGREE WITH YOU, IT'S A SIGNIFICANTLY LARGE COST. >> COMMISSIONER LEDNOVICH.

>> AS THE LIAISON TO THE PLANNING ADVISORY BOARD, OFTENTIMES WE DO THINGS IN A VACUUM. I WANT TO GIVE MISS GIBSON CREDIT BECAUSE SHE CREATED A SCOREBOARD BASED ON OUR VISIONING AND BASED ON WHAT OUR PLANNING AND CONSERVATION PRIORITIES WERE. AND I THINK IT BEHOOVE US TO HAVE THAT SLIDE PRESENTATION PRESENTED TO US BECAUSE ANY TIME YOU THROW A PRIORITY ON TO A SCOREBOARD, SOMETHING HAS TO COME OFF. AND IT'S UP TO THE FIVE OF US TO INSTRUCT HER AS TO OKAY, IF WE

WANT TO PUT DUNE MANAGEMENT ON HER PLATE WHAT IS COMING OFF? >> ACTUALLY WE NEED

>> WELL. >> SMALL POINT. >> WELL THE POINT I'M MAKING, WE CAN TRY AND SAY YES LET'S HAVE THEM DO IT. BUT THE REALITY IS, WHAT IS COMING OFF? AND WHAT IS COMING OFF IS DO WE WANT THAT TO COME OFF?

IT'S ALL ABOUT PRIORITIES. IS THE POINT I'M TRYING TO MAKE. >> VICE MAYOR.

>> I THINK, I SPENT SIX YEARS ON THE PUD. YOU CAN FORM SUB COMMITTEES.

IT DOESN'T HAVE TO COME OFF. I THINK SOMETHING LIKE THIS COULD BE VERY SIMPLE AND IN I SUB COMMITTEE AND YOU COULD GET VOLUNTEERS TO DO IT. I DON'T DISAGREE WITH WHAT YOU'RE SAYING. I THINK IT'S A DECISION WE HAVE TO MAKE ON WHAT WE WANT TO DO WITH THOSE, OTHERWISE WE WILL BE SITTING DOWN THREE YEARS AND HAVE THE SAME PROBLEM IF WE'RE

NOT CAREFUL. >> OKAY. YOU GOOD.

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>> MARINA. THIS WAS PLACED ON THE REQUEST OF COMMISSIONER ROSS.

YOU HAVE THE FLOOR. >> THANK YOU. I SEE MR. MCCARTHY IS STILL HERE. THIS IS HIS FAVORITE TOPIC. I WENT TO THE LAST OCEAN HIGHWAY PORT AUTHORITY MEETING. I CAN BRING UP THE FIRST ISSUE OR BRING UP DURING THE CITY

ATTORNEY'S REPORT. >> THE FIRST, IS MOVING THE CHANNEL.

I ASKED THEM WHERE THEY ARE WITH THAT, AND THEY SAID WELL, THE CITY, EXCUSE ME, THE PORT AUTHORITY LAWYER SENT A MEMO AND IT WOULD BE REVIEWED. YOU HAVE THE MEMO HERE.

BASICALLY IT'S IN MANY WAYS A NONSTARTER BECAUSE IT WANTS US TO TAKE CARE OF ALL OF THE DREDGING OF THE CHANNEL. BASICALLY SAYS WE'RE RESPONSIBLE FOR DREDGING THE CHANNEL, WHICH IS NOT WHAT THE IDEA WAS. THE IDEA IS TO MOVE THE CHANNEL TO THE WEST TO WHERE THE MARKERS ARE AND THEN WE WOULD BE RESPONSIBLE FOR THE CHANGE IN THE DREDGING THAT THAT WOULD CREATE IF IT WAS MOVED, IF THEY EVER WANTED TO DREDGE IT. I WAS WONDERING HOW WE MIGHT PROCEED. WE HAVE THIS WORDING IF WE WANT THE ATTORNEY TO STEP IN TO TRY TO SPEED THINGS UP OR LET IT TAKE ITS COURSE OR WHAT YOU WANT TO DO.

>> COMMISSIONER LEDNOVICH. >> I HAD A DISCUSSION WITH THE CITY MANAGER ON MONDAY ON THIS VERY TOPIC. I THINK MOST OF US REALIZE THAT MOVING THE CHANNEL IS NOT A HIGH PRIORITY. BECAUSE EVEN IF WE MOVE THE CHANNEL, WE DON'T HAVE THE MONEY TO EXPAND THE MARINA TO THE NORTH. LET ME FINISH.

THAT WAS JUST THE BEGINNING. AND THE SECOND PART OF IT, YOU'RE ABSOLUTELY CORRECT.

WHAT THEY, THE CONDITIONS THEY WANT TO IMPOSE ARE UNACCEPTABLE IN MY MIND.

AND SO THE REAL ISSUE TO ME IS NOT WHETHER WE GET THEIR APPROVAL, BUT TO HAVE THE SPONSORSHIP OF THE CHANNEL CHANGE. AND INSTEAD OF DOING THIS DANCE WITH OPA, THAT WE HAVE BEEN DOING FOR AS LONG AS I HAVE BEEN SITTING IN THIS CHAIR AND WAY BEFORE, WHY DON'T WE REDIRECT OUR EFFORTS TO BE THE SPONSOR OF THE CHANNEL AND THAT'S WHERE IT

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BELONGS AND BELONGS WITH THE CITY. NOT OPA.

THAT'S WHAT I WOULD RECOMMEND. >> CAN I RESPOND? >> ABSOLUTELY.

>> TWO POINTS, NUMBER ONE, THE REASON IT'S IMPORTANT TO GET THAT CHANNEL MOVED ISN'T GOING NORTH. I AGREE WITH YOU. IF WE HAVE ANOTHER PROBLEM WHERE WE HAVE TO, ANOTHER BIG STORM COMES IN AND WE HAVE TO REPAIR OUR NORTHERN ATTENUTOR.

THAT'S THE REASON TO DO THAT. >> THAT'S CORRECT. >> SO THAT'S NUMBER ONE.

NUMBER TWO, THE CITY MANAGER CAN SPEAK TO THIS. HE'S MADE EFFORTS TO FIND OUT IF IT'S FEASIBLE FOR US TO DO EXACTLY WHAT YOU'RE SAYING. VICE MAYOR KREGER.

>> THAT'S MY THOUGHT. IF WE COULD BECOME LOCAL SPONSOR, THAT WOULD BE AFFECTIVE. I THINK THEY'RE OTHER SPONSORS, RAINEER WAS INVOLVED AT SOME SPOT. I AGREE THE CHANNEL AT THIS POINT IS REALLY NOT, ONLY RELEVANT FOR THE NEXT STORMS WHICH BRINGS UP THE NEXT P, REPURPOSING THAT AT SOME POINT

IN TIME. >> CITY ATTORNEY. >> I JUST, I'M NOT, SO, WHAT WE HAVE, I WAS FORWARDED E-MAILS THAT YOU COMMISSIONER ROSS HAD MADE A PUBLIC RECORDS REQUEST.

I HAVEN'T GOTTEN ANYTHING FROM OUR ATTORNEY THAT SAYS HEY, BECAUSE I WROTE THE INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT AND GOT A RESPONSE BACK. I SENT IT TO MR. BRANOM, OPA'S ATTORNEY, THE RESPONSE BACK WHEN I POKED IS WE'RE LOOKING AT THE LANGUAGE AND GOING TO PROPOSE CHANGES. THAT WAS THE LAST ON THAT. I AM NOT SAYING THIS IS ALL VERY VALID BUT HAVE THEY SAID, COMMISSIONER ROSS, WOULD YOU TAKE THIS TO YOUR BOARD?

>> NO. >> THAT IS SOMETHING THAT DR. ROSS GOT FROM PUBLIC RECORDS REQUEST. IT WAS A COMMUNICATION BETWEEN MR. STURJES AND BRAMUM.

WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THE PORT AUTHORITY BOARD MEMBERS KNOW. I DON'T HAVE ANY COMMUNICATION FROM MR. BRANUM. IS THERE ACTION YOU WANT ME TO TAKE?

>> THE REASON I BROUGHT THIS UP, AS YOU KNOW, I LIKE TO MOVE THINGS ALONG.

I SUSPECT THAT'S WHAT THEIR ATTORNEY SAYS THEY'RE GOING TO DO, THAT'S WHAT THEY'RE GOING TO DO. SO WHETHER WE SHOULD COMMENT TO THAT OR WAIT FOR THE PROCESS.

WE'RE GOING TO WAIT ANOTHER TWO, THREE MONTHS. >> COMMISSIONER, WOULD YOU LIKE

TO COME FORWARD? >> JUST A QUICK NOTE, BASED ON COMMISSIONER LEDNOVICH'S

COMMENTS, I SENT A LETTER TODAY. >> JUST A QUESTION, TO COURT?

>> TO THE COURT. >> COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS. >> 911 EGANS CREEK LANE.

I HAVE READ THE CORRESPONDENCE BETWEEN THE ATTORNEY AND BOB STURGESS.

LOOKS AS IF THE CITY COULD DREDGE OUT THEIR COUPLE THOUSAND YARDS AND IT'S ALL CONTROLLED OUT THERE BY THE CORPS OF ENGINEERS. THEY ARE SIMPLY NOT GOING TO GET A PERMIT. THEY WILL GO OUT AND ASK FOR PUBLIC NOTICE.

WE WOULD BE ASKED AS THE CITY. WE WOULD OBJECT. THERE'S NO WAY IN THE WORLD THE CORPS OF ENGINEERS IS GOING TO HAVE US DREDGING THAT CHANNEL BECAUSE PART OF THE REASON IS, THE WHOLE CHANNEL THEY HAVE IS NOT IN COMPLIANCE AND THE LITTLE AREA WE'RE ASKED TO DO IS MINISCULE COMPARED TO THE REAL DREDGING THING WHICH THEY ARE NOT GOING TO DO.

I TALKED WITH A FRIEND OF MINE AT THE CORPS AND IT'S TRUE, THERE WILL NOT BE DREDGING UNLESS THE CORPS ORDERS IT DONE. SO, INDEPENDENT OF WHAT STURGESS, I THINK THEY DON'T KNOW THE RULES. THEY HAD TO GET A PERMIT FROM THE COURT AND DREDGE WHAT THEY'RE DOING UP THERE NOW. I DON'T THINK IT'S SO TOUGH TO ACCEPT WHAT WOULD ON ITS FACE WOULD BE AN ODEIUS REQUIREMENT BECAUSE IT'S A REQUIREMENT WITHOUT ANY TEETH BEHIND IT.

THE OTHER THING IS, IF WE ACCEPTED IT, THE REAL THING WE NEED TO BE WORKING TOWARD IS TO GET THE CHANNEL DEAUTHORIZED. THE CORPS RECOGNIZES IT AS SILLY.

REALLY, THINKING ABOUT OPA, THESE OURSELVES, IS THAT OPA AND THE CITY ARE AT LAGGER HEADS

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OVER 50 THOUSAND BUCKS AND OTHER THING THEY VIEW AS INTERFERENCE WITH THEIR WORK AND THEIR RULES.

AND I THINK THAT'S WHERE THE FIGHT LIES AS TO A TOUGH AGREEMENT FROM THEM WHICH LOOKS LIKE WE HAVE A RESPONSIBILITY WE WOULDN'T IF THAT'S THE RESPONSIBILITY.

>> THANK YOU. >> I HAVE A COUPLE ISSUES I CAN BRING UP DURING THE ATTORNEY'S

REPORT OR NOW. >> WHAT IS YOUR PLEASURE? THE SECOND ONE IS THAT AT THE OPEN MEETING THEY MADE A MOTION TO SEEK AN ATTORNEY GENERAL OPINION ON THE PILOT PAYMENT.

THAT'S JUST AN INFORMATIONAL. I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHAT THEY'RE TRYING TO DO WITH THAT.

THE SECOND ISSUE IS THE PORT AUTHORITY APPOINTED THE PORT OPERATOROR TO BE THEIR DIRECTOR.

SO THEY'RE NOT ONE IN THE SAME AND THERE'S NO DIFFERENCE THERE. THE THIRD ISSUE IS THEY HAVE A CUSTOMS HOUSE. IN APRIL THE CUSTOMS, UNITED STATES GOVERNMENT HAS SAID WE'RE GOING TO STOP CHARGING US RENT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. YOU HAVE TO GIVE US A CUSTOM HOUSE IF YOU WANT US HERE. YOU HAVE TO BRING THE CUSTOM'S HOUSE AND BY THE WAY, IT'S TOTALLY INADEQUATE AND YOU HAVE TO REPLACE IT WITHIN TWO YEARS. THERE ARE NOW BEGINNING TO LOOK ONCE AGAIN AND THIS HAPPENED PREVIOUSLY AT THE TWO PARCELS THAT ARE RESIDENTIAL ACROSS THE STREET AND THAT'S JUST GOING TO COME UP IN THE NEXT SEVERAL MONTHS.

THE LAST ISSUE WAS THAT WHEN WE BROUGHT UP THE ISSUE ABOUT THE $50,000 PAYMENT, THEY SAID THEY DIDN'T HAVE ANY MONEY AND THAT'S THE REASON FOR THIS. WELL, IN FACT, THE PORT OPERATOR IS SUPPOSED TO BE PAYING THEM SOMETHING LIKE IT'S ABOUT $22,000 A MONTH AND THEY HAVEN'T PAID THEM FOR MONTHS. THEY ARE LIKE SIX OR SEVEN MONTHS BEHIND.

SO THEY DO HAVE MONEY, IT'S JUST THE PORT, THEY WOULD HAVE MONEY IF THE PORT WAS PAYING THEM THE MONEY. I THINK THAT'S ANOTHER BOGUS ARGUMENT THEY USE AND THAT CAME UP. THAT'S WHAT I HAVE TO REPORT ABOUT THAT MEETING.

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THANK YOU. SIR. ANY QUESTIONS? ITEM 10.5, CITY OWNED PROPERTIES. THIS WAS PLACED AT THE REQUEST

OF COMMISSIONER ROSS. >> THANK YOU. THIS SLIDE SHOW IS I TOOK THE SLIDES AND THE MATERIAL IN THE PACKET AND PUT IT INTO THE POWER POINT TO MAKE IT EASIER FOR

PRESENTATION. I HOPE THERE ARE NO OBJECTIONS. >> GO AHEAD AND START THE DISCUSSION WHILE I GET IT UP. BASICALLY I GOT A, WHY DID I EVEN DO THIS? I WENT THROUGH AND FIGURED OUT WHAT ALL THE PROPERTY THAT THE CITY OWNED AND WHAT WE OWNED AND WHAT OUR ASSETS ARE. PART OF THAT CAME FROM AN E-MAIL I GOT THAT SAID SINCE MOVING HERE IN 2001, IT AMAZED ME AS A CITY OF 20,000 OWN AN AIRPORT, A DEFUNCT PARK.

NO CONSIDERATION IS GIVEN TO THE VALUE, LOST TAX REVENUE ET CETERA.

AND THAT CAME FROM A CONSTITUENT. I WONDERED WHAT DOES THE CITY OWN? HOW DO WE OWN IT? I GOT A LIST FROM THE PROPERTY APPRAISER AND WENT THROUGH IT. ITEM BY ITEM TO FIGURE OUT HOW MANY PROPERTIES THE CITY OWNS.

IF YOU WANT TO PUT THAT UP. AND THAT'S BASICALLY THE QUOTE. THE ANSWER IS WHAT LAND DOES THE CITY OWN AND IS THERE A MANAGEMENT PLAN FOR EACH ASSET? IF YOU GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE.

THE CITY OWNS 29% OF THE LAND ON THE ISLAND. THOSE ARE THE SQUARE MILES WE OWN AND IT DOESN'T INCLUDE THE BEACHES. THE BEACH ACCESS, AND PART OF THIS WAS TO LOOK AT WHAT ARE OUR LIABILITIES HERE AND HOW ARE WE MANAGING THESE THINGS? THE CITY OWNS THE BEACH ACCESS'S AND ACCORD -- AND WHEN WE TALK PREVIOUSLY $5 MILLION IN WHAT IT CONSIDERED ACCEPTABLE. WHEN YOU LOOK AT STREETS, THERE'S MAIN STREET.

FROM ASH STREET TO ALACA STREET. WHEN YOU ADD UP WHAT THAT COSTS, THAT'S MORE COST.

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MOVING ON TO PUBLIC SAFETY. THE CITY OWNS TWO FIRE STATIONS AND A POLICE STATION

>> THE POLICE STATION IS GOOD FOR ANOTHER 10 TO 15 YEARS ACCORDING TO THE CHIEF.

AND I VISITED THE OTHER CHIEF STATIONS. ONE IS GOOD FOR A NUMBER OF YEARS. I'M GOING TO TELL YOU, OUR FIREFIGHTERS AND EMS PEOPLE WHO DO I THINK AN OUTSTANDING JOBS, THOSE DIGS AND I WILL CALL THEM ARE SPARSE.

THEY ARE NOT THE HILTON. IT'S VERY SPARTAN ACCOMMODATIONS.

THEY PROVIDE GREAT SERVICE TO US AND THEY'RE COMING UP, WE NOW ARE GOING TO BE LOOKING AT A NEW BUILDING FOR ONE OF THOSE FIRE STATIONS AND THAT IS PROJECTED AND WE HAVE ALL SEEN PICTURES OF IT TO COST ABOUT $3 MILLION. AND SO, IMPACT FEES WILL PROBABLY COVER ABOUT $650,000 OF THAT. $500,000 CAN COME FROM THE FAA. THAT STILL LEAVES US WITH $1.8 MILLION DEFICIT TO FUND. MOVING ON TO THE NEXT ONE. PUBLIC BUILDINGS

>> WE OWN CITY HALL, WHICH WAS BUILT IN 1904. IT'S A HISTORIC BUILDING AND WE'RE CURRENTLY GOING OUT TO FIGURE OUT WHAT WE CAN DO TO UPDATE THIS BUILDING.

IF YOU GO THROUGH THE BUILDING, WHICH I DID WITH THE BUILDING PEOPLE.

THE EXTERIOR IS, IT MEANS THE STUCCO IS COMING OFF THE WALLS. THE ROOF NEEDS REPLACING.

THE H VAC SYSTEM NEEDS REPLACING. IT NEEDS A MAJOR RENOVATION.

WHAT THAT WILL COST IS UNCLEAR. IF YOU GO TO THE PECK CENTER. WHERE A LOT OF THE OTHER CITY OFFICES ARE. IT'S A BEAUTIFUL BUILDING BUT AGAIN THAT IS IN NEED OF ANOTHER $500,000 TO A MILLION DOLLARS TO RENOVATE. A WHOLE BUNCH OF THINGS TO DO.

THE TRAIN CENTER WE OWN. THAT'S FINE FOR A WHILE. WE OWN THE LIBRARY.

WE TAKE CARE OF THE LIBRARY, THE COUNTY FUNDS THE STAMPING AND THAT BUILDING IS RECENTLY DONE AND IT'S IN GOOD SHAPE. UTILITIES. WE OWN A BUNCH OF LAND.

THESE ARE ALL SMALL PARCELS EXCEPT WHERE THAT IS. THE QUESTION IS, SHOULD WE GET RID OF ANY OF THESE PROPERTIES? I DON'T BELIEVE THAT WE CAN GET RID OF ANY OF THEM.

THEY ARE ALL USED. THE TOILETS FLUSH AND THE WATER WORKS.

THERE IS AN EXCELLENT MANAGEMENT PLAN FOR ALL PROPERTIES THROUGH JOHN MANDRAKE WHO DOES HAPPEN EXCELLENT JOB. UTILITIES ARE IN GOOD SHAPE. THE NEXT ONE.

PARKING LOTS. WE OWN A NUMBER OF PARKING LOTS AND AGAIN, ASKING THE QUESTIONS, SHOULD WE SELL THESE? I DON'T THINK SO. I THINK YOU CAN SEE WHAT IT IS.

THERE IS THE LOT UP BY THE SEAL BOARD BUILDING THAT SOME HAVE SAID THAT WE SHOULD BE LOOKING FORWARD IN THE FUTURE FOR A PARKING LOT. THERE'S A COME FORWARD FROM THE PARKS AND REC MEETING. SOME PEOPLE WANT TO MAKE IT INTO A DOG PARK.

THE MANAGEMENT PLAN FOR THESE, THESE ARE BEING TAKEN CARE OF AND CURRENTLY.

THE ONE OTHER THING I WILL MENTION, OTHER PEOPLE SAID WE SHOULD BE LOOKING AT BUILDING A PARKING GARAGE. A PARKING GARAGE IS ABOUT $20,000 TO $30,000 A SPACE.

AND FOR ANOTHER 100 SPACES YOU'RE TALKING ANOTHER $2 MILLION, $3 MILLION.

ALL OF THESE, AS I'M GOING THROUGH ALL THESE NUMBERS ARE STARTING TO ADD UP INTO SIGNIFICANT MONEY. TE PARKING LOTS ARE IN GOOD SHAPE WITH WHAT WE HAVE.

THERE'S A THOUSAND PARKING SPACES AS WE SHOWED A COUPLE WEEKS AGO WITHIN DOWNTOWN.

NEXT PLEASE. THE PARKS. I READ THE PARK MASTER PLAN LAST NIGHT. AND THE VISION THERE IS FOR EXPANSION AND SO ON.

IN REALITY WE HAVE, IT'S SORT OF I THINK PARK MASTER PLAN MAYBE WE SHOULD CONSIDER REVISITING.

IT'S A VISION OF WHAT WE COULD BE INSTEAD OF A PLAN TO TAKE CARE OF WHAT WE DO HAVE.

WE HAVE TWO BUILDINGS IN THE PARKS NOW. THE ATLANTIC REC CENTER BUILT OF FOUR BUILDINGS. TWO ARE REASONABLY NEW AND TWO OVER 60 YEARS OLD.

THE AUDITORIUM BUILDING AND THE ADMINISTRATIVE BUILDING AND JUST TO GET THOSE INTO A SHAPE WHERE THEY NEED TENDER LOVING CARE I WILL SAY. NOT A MAJOR NEW OVER HAUL BUT

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TENDER LOVING CARE. IT'S $200 TO $300,000 AND SIMILAR THINGS FOR EACH BUILDING. MLK, IS ANOTHER BUILDING THAT NEEDS TENDER LOVING CARE AND JUST TO KEEP IT THERE, WE'RE TALKING ANOTHER $100,000 TO $200,000.

ALSO POINTING OUT, THE CITY OWNS A LIGHT HOUSE. WHICH WE ALSO FUND.

MOVING ON TO THE NEXT ONE IS THE CEMETERY WE OWN. A HISTORIC CEMETERY.

I DON'T THINK WE'RE GOING TO SELL OUR CEMETERY. CURRENT STATE, IT DOESN'T HAVE A REAL SUPERB MANAGEMENT PLAN. I THINK THAT'S ONE OF THINGS WE NEED TO BE LOOKING AT HOW WE CAN TAKE MANAGE THAT AS A BETTER ASSET. THE NEXT 1 IS FRONT STREET.

FRONT STREET IS THE PROPERTIES THERE. AS YOU CAN SEE, THAT'S 17 ACRES.

THE DEBT IS $15 MILLION. IF FEMA PAYS US MONEY, WE WILL BE DOWN TO $7 MILLION.

THERE'S THE SHORE LINE PROJECT WHICH THE ESTIMATE IS FIVE TO $10 MILLION.

THE STREET, WE DON'T EVEN HAVE A PRICE TAG ON AND THE STORM WELL IS $7 MILLION. &-PT PLAN AND IT'S A LOT OF MONEY. THE NEXT ONE IS THE AIRPORT. THE AIRPORT, I LIKE TO POINT OUT HAS THE BALL FIELDS ON IT EVERYBODY USING. THE HUMANE SOCIETY, THE AMELIA LEASE. IT'S NOT ALL AIRPORT PROPERTY AND THERE'S OVER 220 ACRES OF LAND. THERE IS A MANAGEMENT PLAN AND IT'S AN EXCELLENT MANAGEMENT PLAN. THEY ARE GETTING ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.

THEY PARTICULARLY THEY PICKED AN FBO WHO WOULD SELL A LOT OF GAS. DECREASED PRICE AND THAT BRINGS IN MORE FLIGHTS. THEY PUT IN ALL KINDS OF SUB STRUCTURES.

THE SEWER IS IN AND NOW WHAT IS COMING HAPPENING, IT'S HAVING ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.

PEOPLE ARE COMING HERE WANTING TO USE THE AIRPORT, WHAT THAT DOES IS BRINGS IN MORE AIRPLANES. WE'RE AT THE ROAD THEY HAD A GOOD PLAN FOR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AND NOW ALL OF A SUDDEN IT'S COMING TO FRUITION AND A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE UNHAPPY THAT A LOT MORE AIRPLANES ARE GOING TO COME IN OR ARE COMING IN.

THAT'S WHERE WE ARE. WE DO HAVE A GOOD MANAGEMENT PLAN FOR THAT.

THE NEXT ONE IS THE GOLF COURSE AND THE GOLF COURSE IS 358 ACRES.

THERE'S A MANAGEMENT PLAN IN PLACE. WE JUST TALKED ABOUT TOPS, THANK YOU. AND I THINK THAT WE HAVE A WAY FORWARD ON THAT.

BUT I JUST WANT TO FOR THOSE WHO WANT TO SELL THE GOLF COURSE. IT HAS TO GO TO REFERENDUM AND MORE IMPORTANTLY, IF WE SELL IT, EVEN AT A MINIMUM OF FOUR UNITS PER ACRE.

WE'RE TALKING ANOTHER 1400 HOMES ON THE ISLAND AND I DON'T THINK ANYBODY WANTS 1400 HOMES IN THAT SPACE. THE NEXT IS CONSERVATION GREEN LAND.

THERE'S A MANAGEMENT PLAN IN PLACE FOR THAT. IT'S BEEN THERE FOR YEARS AND CONTINUES FORWARD. SO, AND I DON'T THINK WE'RE GOING TO SELL THE GREEN WAY.

IT'S ONE OF THE THINGS THAT MAKES IT SPECIAL. THE NEXT ONE IS THE LAND, 18 MORE OR LESS UNITS. EXCUSE ME, PARCELS OR ACRES MADE UP OF PARCELS AND THEY'RE AND WILL BECOME PART OF THE CONSERVATION. WE NEED THE CONSERVATION PLAN FOR THAT PART TO BE PUT IN WITH THE GREEN WAY. WE NEED TO COME UP WITH A PLAN FOR MANAGING THAT LAND. THE NEXT ONE THAT WE OWN IS THE HOUSING AUTHORITY.

I DIDN'T EVEN KNOW WE OWNED THIS. ON THE RADAR THEY MANAGE AND THEY DO A GOOD JOB. FINALLY, OF THOSE THOUSANDS OF ACRES THAT OF VACANT LAND WE OWN, IT BOILED DOWN TO THREE PARCELS OF WHICH I COULD FIGURE OUT, I DON'T KNOW WHY WE OWN.

ONE IS A STRIP BETWEEN TO LOTS AND ANOTHER ONE IS A VACANT LOT ON EIGHTH STREET.

AND ANOTHER ONE IS A RIGHT-OF-WAY THAT WAS GIVEN BETWEEN TWO WAREHOUSES.

AND THAT IS THE VACANT LAND THAT THE CITY IS NOT REALLY UTILIZING.

SO, I THINK THE TAKE AWAY MESSAGE FROM THIS IN MY MIND WAS, WE HAVE WHEN YOU ADD ALL

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THIS STUFF UP, WE'RE TALKING 50 TO $60 MILLION OF CAPITAL AND WE NEED TO SERIOUSLY LOOK AT NOT DOING NEW THINGS BUT TAKING CARE OF WHAT WE HAVE. AND I THINK THE PARKS AND REC AND I'M NOT SPEAKING TO THE PARKS AND REC, BUT ALL OF US, FOCUS ON HOW ARE WE GOING TO FUND THESE CAPITAL NEEDS OVER THE NEXT FIVE TO 10 YEARS. BECAUSE WITH THE EXCEPTION OF THE WATERFRONT PARK. IT'S THE RESILIENCY. WHETHER A PARK OR NOT, WE NEED A SEA WALL TO PROTECT OUR TOWN. THE ROAD WILL BE DONE ONE WAY OR THE OTHER BECAUSE OF THE RAILROAD. I THINK AFTER DOING THIS AND LOOKING AT ALL THESE PARCELS, I THINK THAT THE CITY OWNS A LOT OF LAND BUT I THINK IT'S ALL WITH GOOD USE.

I DON'T THINK MUCH OF ANY OF IT IS SUPER FLUOUS. THERE'S A MANAGEMENT PLAN FOR MOST OF THESE PARCELS AND SOME OF THEM NEED A NEW MANAGEMENT PLAN.

THE TAKE-HOME MESSAGE IS WE NEED TO CHANGE OUR WAY OF THINKING OR AT LEAST I'M CHANGING MY WAY FROM LOOKING AT THE BRIGHT NEW SHINY OBJECTS AND WHAT ELSE WE CAN DO TO TAKE CARE OF WHAT WE HAVE. IT'S A SPECIAL PLACE AND THOSE THINGS NEED TO BE, THEY NEED TLC AND THAT'S A FAIR AMOUNT OF MONEY. THAT'S ALL I HAVE TO SAY.

>> THANK YOU, SIR. ANY QUESTIONS? I SEE NO LIGHTS.

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MOVE ON TO CITY MANAGER REPORTS. >> THANK YOU MR. MAYOR. QUICK UPDATE.

THE SIMMONS ROAD PARK HAS GOTTEN THE TRC SIGN OFF. SO MS. VOIT IS WAITING FOR FINAL DOCUMENTS. I DID SHARE WITH YOU A DRAFT, REQUEST FOR QUALIFICATIONS FOR CITY HALL. I RECEIVED COMMENTS BACK. THE GOAL IS TO GET THAT OUT THIS WEEK. I'M ALSO WORKING ON THE REQUEST FOR PROPOSALS FOR THE MARINA.

DISCUSSION LAST WEEK WAS SOLICITING PROPOSALS FOR MANAGEMENT, LEASING OR SELLING.

I WILL HAVE DRAFT LANGUAGE TO YOU THIS WEEK. THE COUNTY APPROVED THE BEACH CLEANING CONTRACT. MS. BACH AND I HAVE BEEN SHARING LANGUAGE.

THE COUNTY WILL PAY FOR BEACH CLEANING AS WELL AS EMPTYING OF THE TRASH CANS.

BUT THE CONTRACT LANGUAGE THAT WE HAVE ACTUALLY SAYS THE CITY, SO WE'RE GOING TO CLARIFY THAT.

BUT IT'S IN THE PROCESS. WE HAVE ALSO STARTED I DIRECTED MR. LESTER TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE PROPOSED SIDEWALK ALONG THE EAST SIDE OF THE RAILROAD TRACKS FROM ASH TO CENTER STREET.

MR. LESTER IS THE PROCESS OF A PRE-CONSTRUCTION MEETING. THEY HAVE PRETTY STRINGENT WORK RULES THAT NEED TO BE ADHERED TO. MR. LESTER IS FOLLOWING THROUGH WITH THAT. GENERAL ISSUES, JUST KIND OF SOMETHING TO PUT ON YOUR RADAR AS WE GO INTO THE BUDGET PROCESS. OUR SPECIAL EVENT FEES.

I CONTINUE TO GET REQUESTS TO WAIVE FEES. WE DO HAVE A FEE SCHEDULE THAT IS ADOPTED AS AN ORDINANCE. TECHNICALLY, I DON'T HAVE THE RIGHT TO WAIVE FEES AND HAVE TO BE HONEST WITH YOU. THERE ARE SEVERAL ORGANIZATIONS THROUGHOUT THE COMMUNITY THAT I BELIEVE WOULD PRESENT THEMSELVES BEFORE AND MAKE A GREAT CASE OF WAIVING FEES AND YOU WOULD BE PUT IN A TOUGH SITUATION AND END UP WAIVING THE FEES. I HAD MS. BROWN WHO IS THE SPECIAL EVENTS COORDINATOR PREPARE A LIST OF SPECIAL EVENTS AND THEIR FEES.

WE BILLED ABOUT $30,000 IN SPECIAL EVENT FEES. AFTER WAIVERS AND THE EVENTS THAT WERE DEEMED COMMUNITY EVENTS BY THE CITY COMMISSION AND THE MAIN STREET, THE ACTUAL AMOUNT OF REVENUE GENERATED WAS CLOSER TO $20,000. YOU NEED TO THINK ABOUT, DO WE WANT TO KEEP CHARGING FEES? WE DO INCUR COSTS. THERE'S MORE AND MORE EVENTS AND FOR EXAMPLE, THE ONE THAT IS GENERATED THIS IS THE SAINT MICHAEL ACADEMY.

IN THE PAST. THE CARNIVAL HAS BEEN AT CENTRAL PARK.

THERE ARE NOW TREES PLANTED WHERE THEY HAD A LARGE PART OF THEIR CARNIVAL.

THEY ASKED TO GO TO PARKING LOT. WE HAVE A FEE $5,000. ARE WE GOING TO CHARGE SAINT

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MICHAELS $3,500 TO SPONSOR THEIR CARNIVAL? I SAID NO.

I DIDN'T WANT SAINT MICHAELS TO COME TO YOU AS DO SO MANY OTHER ORGANIZATIONS.

WE NEED TO HAVE A LENGTHY DISCUSSION TO DO WE CHARGE SPECIAL EVENT FEES.

DO WE DRAW THE LINE WHO WE WAIVE THE FEES AND WHO WE DO NOT. I WILL SHARE THAT LIST AND THE AMOUNT OF MONEY THAT HAS BEEN GENERATED. NASSAU COUNTY ASKED I BELIEVE AS PART OF THE 2020 CENSUS THEY'RE REQUIRED TO CREATE A CENSUS COMMITTEE.

AND THEY HAVE ASKED THE CITY TO NOMINATE SOMEBODY TO SERVE ON THE CENSUS COMMITTEE.

IF YOU HAVE SOMEBODY IN MIND OR ANYBODY IS INTERESTED, WE NEED TO PRESENT THAT RECOMMENDATION

TO THE COUNTY AS SOON AS POSSIBLE. >> I WOULD SERVE ON THAT COMMITTEE. SINCE THIS YEAR IS GOING TO BE A BIG DEAL, WE SHOULD, WE NEED TO MAKE AN EFFORT TO DO SOMETHING AS A COMMISSION. A LOT OF IT WILL BE ONLINE AND BY MAIL AND THOSE NUMBERS ARE CRITICAL THE ACCURACY. IF MY FELLOW COMMISSIONERS, IF

IT'S GOOD WITH THEM. >> YOU GO RIGHT AHEAD. I SEE YOU ALL LIGHTING UP YOUR

LIGHTS. >> SEVERAL MONTHS AGO, I HEARD OF A SECOND CRUISE LINE COMING TO THE PORT NOT NECESSARILY THE MARINA, I HAVE BEEN INFORMED BY THE CRUISE OFFICIALS THEY WILL

NOT COME IN APRIL BUT THEY PLAN ON NOVEMBER AND DECEMBER CRUISES >> IT'S STILL SEVERAL MONTHS OFF BUT THEY ARE KEEPING MY INFORMED AS TO AND THAT'S THE VICTORY CRUISE LINE.

THEY HAD LOW BOOKINGS IN APRIL AND HAVE ON THEIR CALENDAR, THE NOVEMBER AND DECEMBER CRUISES TO FERNANDINA BEACH. WITH REGARD TO SCHEDULE, WE DO HAVE OUR JOINT MEETING WITH THE SCHOOL BOARD TOMORROW NIGHT. I'M SCHEDULED TO MEET ON THURSDAY MORNING.

I GO TO STARK THURSDAY EVENING FOR THE NORTHEAST FLORIDA LEAGUE OF CITIES.

I AM OUT OF THE OFFICE ON FRIDAY. AND THEN NEXT THURSDAY I START SEASON THREE OF THE GOVERNMENT ACADEMY. SO, THANKS TO THE COUNCIL ON AGING FOR ALLOWING ME TO PUT THAT ON. IF YOU'RE INTERESTED IN ATTENDING THAT, IT'S A SERIES OF SIX CLASSES ON GOVERNMENTAL OPERATIONS.

YOU HAVE TO REGISTER WITH THE COUNCIL ON AGEING. IT'S BEEN WELL ATTENDED

PAST. >> COMMISSIONER ROSS. >> FIRST QUESTION IS, THE CRUISE LINE, WHY ISN'T THE MARINA COURTING THEM TO COME TO OUR MARINA?

>> I HAVE NO IDEA. ALL OF A SUDDEN WE GOT E-MAILS AND IT CAME FROM THE CITY ASKING

FOR A BUS ROUTE. >> DO YOU KNOW HOW HARD I WORKED TO TERMINATE THE LEASE AGREEMENT FOR THE LAST CRUISE SHIP. NOW WE WANT IT? I'M JUST WONDERING.

>> MONEY HONEY. >> I NEED TO KNOW AS YOUR ATTORNEY.

THAT WAS ONLY 12 YEARS AGO. I FOUGHT THAT. >> IF IT'S SOMETHING BENEFICIAL

TO THE CITY. >> IT SOUNDS LIKE JOE SPRINGER MOUTHED TO ME.

WEST TRACK IS NOT IGNORING WE CAN ENTICE THEM PERHAPS. >> MY SECOND QUESTION IS TRIPPED OVER AIR PERMIT CONSTRUCTION AND TURNS OUT THE WEST TRACK IS GOING TO PUT IN FOR THEIR LOOKING TO PUT IN A GAS -- WEST ROCK. EXCUSE ME.

WEST ROCK. IS GOING TO PUT IN A GAS TURBINE WHICH IS A BIG DEAL.

TWO BIG HUGE SMOKE STACKS. I WOULD ASK AND I TALKED TO R.J. FROM FPU.

NO DEAL HAS BEEN SIGNED. IF YOU COULD REACH OUT TO THEM TO COME.

THIS IS A BIG DEAL IN OUR COMMUNITY. A BIG GAS TURBINE.

IF THEY COULD COME AND PRESENT THE PROJECT AND TALK ABOUT THE DETAILS.

THAT'S ALL. >> COMMISSIONER LEDNOVICH. >> MANY OF YOU ARE AWARE THAT SUNDAY THE SABA ROAD BEACH ACCESS GATE WAS NOT OPEN. IT DIDN'T GET OPENED UNTIL 10:30 A.M.. CITY MANAGER LET US KNOW WHAT THE PLAN IS FOR MAKING SURE THE GATE IS OPENED ON TIME AND IF NOT, THE REMEDY FOR HAVING PEOPLE ABLE TO PARK ON THE BEACH

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THERE BEFORE WHAT IS THAT? FOUR AND A HALF HOURS. >> YEAH, WE HAD THAT DISCUSSION.

>> I JUST WANT IT ON THE RECORD. >> THE, WE WILL BE INSTALLING A SIGN THAT INDICATES WHO TO CALL FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND, IT WAS POSTED ON FACEBOOK AND THE CITY DOESN'T MONITOR FACEBOOK.

SO THERE WILL BE A NUMBER FOR BOTH THE PARKS AND REC DEPARTMENT AND ALL LIKELIHOOD THE NON-EMERGENCY NUMBER FOR POLICE DISPATCH WHO WILL RECEIVE INSTRUCTIONS ON IF THEY GET A CALL ABOUT THE GATE, WHO TO CALL SO DISPATCH WILL CONTACT SOMEBODY FROM THE PARKS AND REC DEPARTMENT. IT'S A PARKS AND REC RESPONSIBILITY.

NOT THE POLICE. NOT THE FIRE DEPARTMENT. SO YES.

THAT WAS BASICALLY THE WORD THAT I GOT WAS SOMEBODY DROPPED THE BALL.

>> BUT THAT'S THE >> YOU >> YES, SIR.

CITY ATTORNEY. >> OKAY. JUST TO --

>> I'M SORRY. I HAD A COUPLE THINGS TO THE CITY MANAGER.

>> THE SAINT MICHAELS CARNIVAL. DID THEY REACH OUT TO THE SCHOOL BOARD?

>> I DON'T KNOW. AND THE CRUISE SHIP. DID THEY INDICATE WHETHER OR NOT THEY WILL BE OPERATING ON SHORT POWER OR THEIR OWN GAS? ARE THEY GOING TO PROVIDE POWER?

>> NO IDEA. THAT'S A BIG DEAL. WHETHER OR NOT THEY DO THAT.

IF THEY RUN THEIR OWN STACKS, THAT COULD BE NOISY AND SMELLY. >> THEY DON'T HAVE SHORT POWER

THERE AT THE PORT. >> THEN THEY WON'T BE OPERATING COAL IRON.

>> THAT'S THE BEST OF MY KNOWLEDGE. WE'RE PROBABLY GOING TO GET CALLS ABOUT THAT. THOSE CAN BE REALLY, WHEN YOU BRING A BIG BOAT LIKE THAT AND IT'S RUNNING THAT POWER, SOMETHING THAT SIZE REQUIRES THAT MUCH AC, THE REGULAR LIKE TRANSPORT SHIP. THEY DON'T REQUIRE THAT MUCH. THESE GUYS EVERY SINGLE ROOM HAS

HAIR DRYERS AND TELEVISION SETS. THAT REQUIRES A LOT OF >>

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THANK YOU. I'M SORRY. >> NO.

I WAS JUST WATCHING THE MARINA GUYS OUT THERE BOUNCING AROUND LIKE MICE IN A CHEESE FACTORY.

OKAY. WILL YOU PLEASE BE PATIENT. I'M GOING TO GO THROUGH QUICKLY.

THIS IS THE LAST TIME TO GIVE A MEANINGFUL LEGISLATIVE UPDATE. THERE'S GOOD NEWS LIKE THERE ALWAYS IS. WE HAVE A GREAT LOBBY IN THE FLORIDA LEAGUE OF CITIES AND OF COURSE OUR CITY DELEGATION WAS THERE LAST WEEK AND BUDDY JACOBS IS DOING A WONDERFUL JOB FOR US.

I WILL GO THROUGH THAT. I WANTED TO TACK ON TO THE BEACH RAKER AND BEACH CLEANING CONTRACT. IT LOOKS LIKE THE COUNTY COMMISSION HAS APPROVED IT.

WE HAVEN'T BROUGHT IT HERE TO THE CITY COMMISSION. MR. MARTIN AND I ARE TRYING TO WORK OUT WITH YOUR APPROVAL, THE INTENTION IS NO CITY MONEY. IT WILL BE TOURIST DEVELOPMENT TAX DOLLARS. THE CITY WILL NOT AGREE TO MAKE PAYMENTS.

WE'RE GOING TO TRY TO WORK OUT THOSE ITEMS IN THE AGREEMENT WHICH I THINK WE WILL.

IT SAYS THAT AGREEMENT BEGINS AND IS AFFECTIVE MARCH FIRST, BEFORE THE NEXT REGULAR MEETING, DO YOU MIND AND IT'S JUST SORT OF NOT CONSENSUS, MR. MARTIN HAS LEGAL AUTHORITY IN MY OPINION TO SIGN THAT DOCUMENT WITHOUT OBLIGATING CITY MONIES AND WE WILL BRING IT BACK FOR CITY

ARCHIVES ON MARCH THIRD. DO YOU HAVE ISSUE? >> OKAY.

THAT'S WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO WITH THAT. THE JOINT MEETING WITH THE SCHOOL BOARD, I HAVE TO BE HERE FOR A BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT VARIANCE HEARING.

THIS IS THE CONTINUATION OF THE WEST ROCK VARIANCE HEARING FOR THE WALL THEY PUT UP.

THE JOINT MEETING ON THE SCHOOL BOARD IS TOMORROW AT 6:00 P.M. AT THE SCHOOL BOARD ADMINISTRATION ON ATLANTIC AVENUE. I WILL FOLLOW THERE.

I'M GUESSING WE WON'T BE FINISHED. WITH REGARD TO THE OCEAN HIGHWAY AND PORT AUTHORITY, WE HAVE A MEDIATION DEADLINE END OF THIS MONTH.

THAT'S NOT GOING TO HAPPEN. IT'S TAKEN UNTIL LAST WEEK TO AGREE WITH A MEDIATOR.

I CAVED AND IT'S A FINE ATTORNEY IF I CAN GET HIM ON A SCHEDULE FOR A DAY TO COME TO FERNANDINA FROM TALLAHASSEE. HE IS CARLOS ALVAREZ FOR ONE DAY AND HASN'T REPLIED.

HE SAYS APRIL. IT'S OKAY FOR YOU ALL, I NEED YOU ALL TO VOTE TO EXTEND THE DEADLINE TO MAY 15TH. IT'S OKAY IT WASN'T LISTED ON THE AGENDA.

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PLEASE MAKE A MOTION AND EXTEND THE >> MOVE TO EXTEND.

>> SECOND. >> MOTION AND >> ROSS,

>> YES. >> VICE MAYOR KREGER, >> YES.

CHAPMAN. >> YES. LET LED LED LEDNOVICH. I WILL VOTE YES, BUT MY COMMENT IS THIS.

>> CAN WE FINISH THE VOTE. >> YES. MAYOR MILLER.

>> YES. MR. LEDNOVICH, YOU'RE OPEN. >> BAIL IS $50,000.

THEY ARE SIX MONTHS IN A A REARS. ON THE $50,000.

>> 18 MONTHS. ISN'T IS LAST YEAR'S PAYMENT? >> 2019 THEY SHOULD HAVE PAID IN JULY. YEAH. 18 MONTHS.

>> IT WASN'T 18 MONTHS FROM NOW. ANYWAY. NO MATTER.

THE POINT IS INTEREST. IT'S PAST DUE. SO THAT IF WE WERE GOING TO AGREE TO THE MARCH 15, WHY AREN'T WE CHARGING THEM INTEREST ON THE AMOUNT OF MONEY THEY OWE

US? >> A COURT WOULD ORDER STATUTORY INTEREST.

I THINK IT'S ABOUT 4% JUST A GUESS. I THINK THAT MR. MARTIN AND I ASSUMED THAT WAS WHAT WE WOULD DO WHEN THIS DISPUTE IS RESOLVED, HOWEVER IT'S RE

SOLVED, THEY WOULD OWE INTEREST. I'M GLAD YOU BROUGHT IT UP. >> I WOULD LIKE TO GET IT ON THE RECORD WE ARE GOING TO CHARGE THEM INTEREST BECAUSE WHAT WE'RE EXPERIENCING WITH OPA AND I HAVE SEEN IT OVER AND OVER AGAIN IS DE DELAY, DELAY.

IT'S JUST A GAME OF DELAY. WELL, YOU KNOW WHAT, THERE'S A PENALTY FOR DELAY.

AND THERE'S A PENALTY WHEN YOU OWE MONEY AND DON'T PAY IT. AS PROMISED.

SO, I BELIEVE WE SHOULD INCORPORATE AN INTEREST RATE ON THIS PILOT PAYMENT.

>> YES. OKAY. OUR BILLS.

FIRST AND FOREMOST. VACATION RENTALS, WE HAVE BEEN WORKING ON THAT SINCE THE LATE 90'S, AT LEAST 20 YEARS. THE FIRST ORDINANCE WAS PASSED IN 2000.

THE LAST AMENDMENT WAS IN NOVEMBER OF 2011. THE CURRENT BILL THAT IS PENDING BEFORE THE LEGISLATURE, I BELIEVE OUR LEGISLATION BELIEVES IT WILL PASS.

IT'S NOT GOING TO AFFECT IN FERNANDINA BEACH WHERE YOU CAN HAVE RESORT RENTALS.

WE'RE GOOD. THANK GOODNESS. THERE ARE OTHER COASTAL TOWNS, THEY ARE JEALOUS THEY HAVEN'T STARTED THE PROGRESS OF REGULATING VACATION RENTALS.

YOU ARE GRANDFATHERED IN IF YOU HAVE IT ON THE BOOKS IN 2011. THE AMENDMENTS WE MADE IN 2011 ARE PROBABLY GOING TO HAVE TO GO AWAY. THERE WAS NOTHING THERE THAN A $1,000 FOR THE FIRST FINE. I WILL GIVE EVERYBODY A SUMMARY OF THE WHAT THE NEW REGULATIONS ARE. IF THE BILL PASSES AS OF JULY 1ST WILL GO AWAY.

SOME IS ABOUT POSTING PERMITS. WE ALWAYS ISSUED PERMITS AND WILL CONTINUE TO DO THAT.

IN MY ESTIMATION, THERE WON'T BE MANY CHANGES TO THE PEOPLE IN TOWN.

>> MR. MARTIN, DID YOU HAVE SOMETHING? I THINK YOU SHOULD CLARIFY THE STATEMENT THAT IT'S NOT GOING TO AFFECT WHERE PEOPLE CAN DO SHORT TERM RENTALS.

I DON'T WANT THE PUBLIC TO KNOW THEY CAN DO SHORT TERM RENTALS. >> WE HAVE SPECIFIC AREAS WHERE

YOU CAN LEGALLY DO SHORT TERM RENTALS. >> THE ONLY PLACE IN THE CITY IS R 3 WHICH IS MULTI-FAMILY RESIDENTIAL. SO, THAT'S BASICALLY ON THE BEACH. I MEAN, I CAN'T THINK OF ANY OTHER R 3, CAN YOU MS. GIBSON? THAT'S ON THE BEACH, CONDOS AND THINGS LIKE THAT. THAT DOES NOT CHANGE WITH THIS NEW LAW. THE ONLY THING THAT WILL CHANGE IS HOW WE PERMIT IT.

WHAT FINES MIGHT BE CHARGED AND THINGS LIKE THAT. IN TERMS OF NEIGHBORHOODS.

DEED RESTRICTIONS WILL BE HONORED. THERE WAS RUMORS IF YOU HAVE HOMEOWNERS, THERE WILL BE RENTALS ALL OVER. THAT'S NOT TRUE.

CONDO RULES. HOMEOWNERS RULES ARE STILL IN PLACE.

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THOSE ARE CONTRACTS. SO AGAIN IT'S NOT GOING TO CHANGE WHAT WE DO HERE IN FERNANDINA. ONLY ALLOWED STILL IN THE LIMITED AREAS.

AND DOWNTOWN VICINITY IS NOT IN THOSE AREAS. DOWNTOWN IS NOT ONE OF THOSE

AREAS. >> AND WE NEED A PERMIT. >> YOU DO AND WILL STILL NEED ONE. I THINK IT'S 425 PERMITS EXIST TODAY.

>> THAT'S RIGHT. >> AND PAID BED TAX. YOU HAVE TO PAY BED TAX.

IF YOU DISCONTINUE AND LET YOUR RESORT RENTAL PERMIT EXPIRE FOR 180 DAYS WHICH IS SIX MONTHS OR MORE AND YOU ARE NOT IN THE R 3 DISTRICT, YOU LOSE YOUR GRANDFATHERING.

THERE ARE AND PERMITS THAT WE HAVE BEEN GIVING FOR YEARS THAT ARE IN PLACES THAT WOULD NOT NORMALLY ALLOW IT. YOU NEED TO KEEP UP WITH YOUR PERMITS IF YOU WANT TO CONTINUE

TO RENT. >> ONE FINAL POINT. THE PUBLIC MAY NOT KNOW WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT SHORT-TERM RENTALS. AIR B & B.

YOU ARE NOT ALLOWED TO USE YOUR HOUSE AS AIR B & B UNLESS YOU'RE IN R 3.

SHORT TERM RENTAL IS LEGAL SPEAK FOR AIR B & B. >> I KNOW YOU SHOULD WRITE YOUR

ARTICLE ABOUT THIS WEEK. I FIGURED. >> SOMEBODY WRITE IT BECAUSE IT DOES NEED TO BE CLARIFIED AND THANK YOU FOR THE AIR B AND B COMMENT.

IS THAT IT ON SHORT TERM RENTALS? LESS THAN 30 DAYS.

IF YOU RENT YOUR, YOU CAN RENT PROPERTIES ANYWHERE IN THE CITY FOR 30 DAYS AT A TIME OR MORE.

>> OKAY. ALL RIGHT. I'M TRYING TO THINK WHAT IS REALLY IMPORTANT. I'M NOT GOING TO READ THE TEXT OF EVERY ONE OF THESE.

WE WILL BE HERE UNTIL 9:00. IF YOU WANT ME TO SEND YOU. I WOULD BE HAPPY TO SEND THESE.

THESE ARE GREAT SUMMARIES FROM THE FLORIDA LEAGUE OF CITIES. THERE IS A GROWTH MANAGEMENT TRAIN BILL MS. GIBSON THAT WAS A BUNCH OF PARTS OF BILLS PUT TOGETHER.

IT IS HOUSE BILL 203. AND WE'RE OPPOSING THIS. IT'S 5G.

EVERYBODY KNOWS 5G. IT'S GONE CRAZY. THE LEGISLATURE WANTS TO DE-REGULATE EVERYTHING. THEY ARE STARTING IN THE BIG CITIES AND STILL SOMETHING MEANING THEY CAN DO WHATEVER THE HECK THEY WANT IN RIGHTS OF WAY SCARY.

CALL ME IF YOU WANT SOME INFORMATION ABOUT THAT BILL. I TOLD YOU ABOUT SHORT TERM RENTALS. IMPACT FEES. WE'RE OPPOSED TO THIS.

THIS IS GOING TO HAVE THE STATE IS GOING TO DEFINE HOW CITIES AND COUNTIES CAN SPEND THEIR IMPACT FEES. THEY WILL DEFINE INFRASTRUCTURE FOR US AND FORCE US TO FORM ANOTHER COMMITTEE. I LOVE OUR COMMITTEES BUT MY GOODNESS.

JUST BY HAVING IMPACT FEES. IN ORDER TO SPEND THEM, STATE SAYS WE HAVE TO FORM A COMMITTEE. BURKE HARRIS. PRIVATE PROPERTY RIGHTS.

THIS IS INCREASING THE SCOPE OF THE BURT HARRIS ACT FOR PRIVATE PRIORITY OWNERS.

WHEN CITIES AND COUNTIES TRY TO REGULATE GROWTH, THEY ARE TRYING TO TAKE THAT AWAY FROM US.

AND THAT IS, IT'S LOOKING LIKE IT WILL PASS. THE ONE THING THEY DID TAKE OUT, THEY TOOK OUT A ONE-SIDED ATTORNEY FEE PROVISION THAT GAVE ATTORNEY FEES TO PROPERTY OWNERS FOR FILING IF THEY PREVAIL. ANOTHER IS AND I KNOW I'M SPEAK LIKE AN ATTORNEY.

SIMILARLY-SITUATED PROPERTIES. IF THERE WAS A PROPERTY OWNER THAT RECEIVED A VARIANCE.

A SETTLEMENT FOR THE CITY FOR REGULATIONS THEY FELT WERE BURDENING THEIR PROPERTY.

ALL PROPERTIES LIKE IT, SIMILARLY SITUATED PROPERTIES WERE GOING TO HAVE TO AUTOMATICALLY GET THE SAME THING. SO WE WRITE A CHECK TO ONE.

I SAW IT POTENTIALLY HAVING TO WRITE A CHECK TO ALL OF THEM. GIVING THE VARIANCE OR RIGHTS TO EVERYBODY. THAT'S BEEN TAKEN OUT AND THAT'S GOOD.

DID YOU HAVE A QUESTION? NOT THAT YOU JUST SAID -- IT'S BEEN TAKEN OUT.

IT'S BEEN TAKEN OUT. THAT'S GOOD. FIDUCIARY BILLS.

I DON'T THINK THAT'S GOING TO AFFECT US TOO MUCH. WE KNOW WE DO.

I CAN EXPLAIN MORE. THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF AMENDMENTS.

FISCAL TRANSPARENCY BILL MOVING AGAIN. I THINK THAT IT'S BEING OPPOSED BY FLORIDA LEAGUE OF CITIES. THAT'S ABOUT HOW WE PUBLISH OUR BUDGETS AND I DON'T KNOW THAT'S

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NECESSARILY A BAD THING. ELECTRIC VEHICLE. THIS IS THOSE OF YOU FOLLOWING THESE NEW TECHNOLOGY THINGS. CHARGING STATION BILL PICKS UP SPECIAL INTEREST AMENDMENT THAT ISN'T REALLY GOOD FOR CITIES. ONE THING THAT IS GOOD, THE STATE IS FINALLY GOING TO LET OFF AND ALLOW CITIES TO BAN SMOKING OFF BEACHES AND PARKS. WE DO SUPPORT THAT.

CCNA. THEY ARE RAISING LIMITS FROM $2 MILLION TO FOUR MILLION DOLLARS. GIVING MORE FLEXIBILITY. LEGAL NOTICES.

THEY WERE GOING TO ALLOW LEGAL NOTICES TO BE PUBLISHED ON THE WEBSITE.

ASK THE CITY CLERK HOW MUCH THEY SPEND BUT IT WOULD BE NICE TO HAVE ANOTHER OPTION.

ELECTRIC BICYCLES. SOAR THROUGH COMMITS, E-BIKES. THOSE THAT GO A LITTLE LESS THAN 20 MILES AN HOUR. WE HAVE ONE AT HOME. I WON'T RIDE IT.

IT'S SCARY ARE GOING TO BE ALLOWED EVERYWHERE THAT REGULAR BICYCLES ARE ALLOWED BECAUSE THERE'S BEEN MOVEMENT BY CITIES AND COUNTIES TO TREAT THEM AS MOTOR VEHICLES AND THERE ARE, AS I UNDERSTAND IT, PEOPLE WHO ARE SOMEWHAT DISABLED, THEY CAN'T PUSH THE BICYCLE UP A HILL NECESSARILY. THIS ALLOWS THEM TO GET AROUND. HOUSING IMPACT FEES AND AFFORDABLE DWELLING UNITS. THERE'S A BILL WE OPPOSE. BECAUSE THEY'RE GOING TO MAKE US PLACE ACCESSORY DWELLING UNITS IN RESIDENTIAL AREAS AND THEY PERMIT MOBILE HOME PARKS, DAMAGED BY WIND TO BE REBUILT ON THE SAME SITE AND DENSITY. IT TAKES AWAY OUR LOCAL RIGHTS TO CONTROL. AND I KNOW THAT WAS FAST. BUT THAT'S IT.

THE HOUSE HAS APPROVING A BUDGET. THE SENATE IS WORKING ON IT TOO.

THEY'RE GETTING CLOSE. MARCH 20TH IS THE END OF THE SESSION IS THE CITY MANAGER.

THE BILLS WILL BE APPROVED BY THE GOVERNOR OR VETOED BY JUNE OR OCTOBER ARE THE AFFECTIVE DATES. PLEASE CALL ME, E-MAIL ME WITH ANY QUESTIONS OR DETAILS ABOUT THESE BILLS. THESE ARE THE ONLY ONES YOU HAVE HEARD ABOUT A BUNCH OF OTHERS.

THEY ARE DEAD. THAT'S WHY WE'RE NOT HEARING ABOUT THEM.

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THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >> CITY CLERK. >> COMMISSIONERS, VICE MAYOR

KREGER. >> IT WAS A GREAT TRIP TO TALLAHASSEE.

THERE'S MANY CITY STAFF ALONG WITH KEEP TALLAHASSEE BEAUTIFUL IS GOING TO DO NEIGHBORS HELPING NEIGHBORS. THERE WILL BE FLYERS OUT AND DIFFERENT LOCATIONS.

IT WILL BE A BIG EVENT. THAT'S IT. >> COMMISSIONER LEDNOVICH.

>> JUST A COUPLE COMMITTEE REPORTS. PLANNING ADVISORY BOARD, YOU KNOW WE PASSED THE HEIGHT RESTRICTION AND WE WERE LOOKING FOR THEIR RECOMMENDATION ON ROOF TOP ACCESSORY EQUIPMENT. THEY ENGAGED IN A LIVELY DEBATE. COULD NOT COME TO AN AGREEMENT.

AND FORMED A SUB COMMITTEE THAT IS MEETING NEXT WEDNESDAY. OKAY CHAIRED BY MS. MENCHU AND COME BACK WITH A RECOMMENDATION BASED ON THE WORK OF THE SUB COMMITTEE.

THE SECOND PART OF THE PAB IS I THINK EVERYONE RECEIVED CHAIRMAN CLARK'S LETTER TODAY ON THE MAKE UP OF THE PAB. THEY WANT TO GO FROM FIVE TO SEVEN VOTING MEMBERS.

THEY HAVE TWO ALTERNATIVES WHO ARE ALWAYS THERE. BUT NEVER GET TO VOTE.

THEY GET TO STATE THEIR OPINIONS BUT WHEN IT COMES TO ACTUALLY VOTING, THEY CANNOT PARTICIPATE.

THEY WOULD LIKE TO CHANGE THAT AS WELL AS GOING TO A THREE-YEAR TERM ON THAT BOARD.

PARKS AND REC. COMMISSIONER ROSS ALREADY COMMENTED ON THE LOT BY THE WATER PLANT OFF ATLANTIC. THAT PARCEL, THERE WAS A PROPOSAL FOR A DOG PARK TO BE PUT THERE. MY OBSERVATION WAS IT DIDN'T GAIN MUCH TRACTION.

AND I DON'T THINK IT'S GOING TO COME BEFORE US. THAT'S ALL I HAVE.

COMMISSIONER CHAPMAN. >> I WANT TO THANK MR. MARTIN FOR DRIVING US TO TALLAHASSEE.

IF ANYONE QUESTIONS THE VALUE WE GET FROM OUR LOBBYIST BUDDY JACOBS, I CAN TELL YOU IT WAS MY

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FIRST TIME WALKING WITH BUDDY. EVERYBODY IN TALLAHASSEE KNOWS BUDDY JACOBS.

HE CAN GET MORE DOORS OPEN FOR US SO I WANT TO THANK BUDDY. I THINK IT'S THE 20TH APPARENTLY, THERE'S A BIG QUILTING COMPETITION COMING TO FERNANDINA.

I'M GOING TO BE THE QUILTING JUDGE. SO I URGE YOU TO PLEASE COME AND APPARENTLY, THESE THINGS ARE QUITE ELABORATE. SO JOIN US.

COMMISSIONER ROSS >> >> FIRST OF ALL, I WILL DISCLAIM, I DO WORK AT BAPTIST IN THE EMERGENCY ROOM. THAT BEING ASIDE.

I WANT TO GIVE A SHOUT OUT TO THAT HOSPITAL. THEY GOT, THEY WERE, BAPTIST MEDICAL CENTER RECEIVED A 5 STAR RATING FROM CMS, THE CENTERS MORE MEDICARE AND MEDICAID SERVICE. ONLY 6% RECEIVE A FIVE-STAR RATING.

WE HAVE AN IMPRESSIVE LITTLE HOSPITAL HERE THAT I THINK DOES A WONDERFUL JOB.

WHEN YOU'RE TOO SICK TO BE HERE, THEY ARE GOOD AS SOME OF US IN THE AUDIENCE CAN TELL YOU GETTING YOU TO SOMEWHERE ELSE THEY CAN TAKE CARE OF YOU. WANT TO GIVE A SHOUT OUT TO THE PEOPLE THAT WORK THERE. IT'S REALLY ONE OF THINGS THAT ENHANCES THE QUALITY OF LIFE ON

THIS ISLAND. >> THANK YOU SIR. THE PEOPLE YOU SEE WHEN YOU FIRST CHECK IN THERE, ARE THEY VOLUNTEERS? WHEN YOU WALK UP TO THE DOOR?

>> THEY ARE PAID STAFF MEMBERS? >> THE MAIN LOBBY. >> THE MAIN LOBBY.

I'M GOING TO TELL YOU SOMETHING, I NEVER LEAVE THE EMERGENCY ROOM.

>> WHETHER OR NOT THEY ARE. WITH THE GREEN UNIFORMS. >> THEY ARE FANTASTIC.

NOBODY LIKES GOING TO THE HOSPITAL, BUT, YOU KNOW, IT'S LIKE I SAY, ABOUT GOING TO THE

DMV. IT'S NOT BAD. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

THAT'S VERY IMPRESSIVE. >> YEAH. TALLAHASSEE.

SO, I'M GOING TO PRAISE BUDDY A LITTLE MORE. BUDDY, SINCE HE'S NOT IN THE ROOM HE WILL DO THIS. IF YOU'RE IN A CONVERSATION WITH BUDDY AND TRY TO GIVE HIM A COMPLIMENT, THEY SAYS GIVE IT TO THE ELECTED OFFICIALS. FROM THE MOMENT WE GOT IN THE PARKING LOT TO THE CAPITAL BUILDING. EVERYONE, LITERALLY EVERYONE KNEW THAT GUY. BUT THE SECOND TIME WE WENT BACK AND GOT IN THE ELEVATOR WITH HIM, THEY WERE TWO JANITORIAL STAFF MEMBERS WITH GARBAGE CANS. HE STOPPED THE CONVERSATION HE WAS HAVING WITH US. WE WERE GETTING READY TO HAVE A MEETING WITH THE GOVERNOR.

WE WERE LIKE HOW DO WE HANDLE THIS? HE STOPPED THE WHOLE CONVERSATION HAVING WITH US AND REMINDED THEM THE DATE FOR THE BREAKFAST HAD BEEN MOVED.

THEY SAID GREAT, THANK YOU MR. BUDDY, GOT OFF THE ELEVATOR AND CONTINUED THE CONVERSATION.

I SAID HOLD ON A SECOND. I SAID YOU KNOW YOU KNOW EVERYBODY.

HE SERVES A BREAKFAST FOR EVERY STAFF MEMBER AT THAT BUILDING, 150 PEOPLE.

BECAUSE NOBODY RECOGNIZES THESE GUYS. THEY WALK PAST THEM ALL DAY LONG, IT'S IMPORTANT HE CATERS IN A BREAKFAST FOR THEM. THAT'S BUDDY JACOBS.

HE'S A MAJOR ASSET FOR US. YOU TALK ABOUT OPENING DOORS. THE GROUP BEFORE US WITH THE

TOURISM COMMITTEE IN JACKSONVILLE. >> JACKSONVILLE CHAMBER OF COMMERCE. MUST HAVE BEEN 40 PEOPLE IN THE PHOTO APP.

BUDDY JACOBS GOT THREE OF US IN TO SEE THE GOVERNOR. AND THE GOVERNOR'S DIRECTOR WITH FEMA. AND BUDDY KNEW EVERYBODY TO COORDINATE THAT MEETING.

THEY MAY END UP PANNING OUT FOR US AS FAR AS RECONSTRUCTION. THANK YOU BUDDY JACOBS.

>> CAN I REMIND YOU TO PLEASE THANK SENATOR BEAN. >> THE OTHER THING WE DID THERE.

THE FIRST MEETING WAS WITH SENATOR BEAN AND THE SENATOR WAS KIND ENOUGH TO MEET WITH US AND WE TALKED ABOUT SHORT TERM RENTALS AND PREEMPTIONS AND CONTINUED.

HE HAD A BIG BUDGET MEETING AND TOOK US ON TO THE FLOOR OF THE SENATE.

SHOWED US BEHIND THE SCENES. GOT TO DO A PHOTO OP WITH HIM AND INVITED US TO BE IN THE GALLERY AND WHEN IT CAME TO TALK ABOUT HIS PORTION OF THE BEEN, HE RECOGNIZED US AND GAVE A NICE LITTLE SHOUT OUT TO FERNANDINA AND THE EIGHT FLAGS AND RECOGNIZED HE ONCE SAT IN THE SEAT I SIT IN AND WAS VERY GRACIOUS AND VERY NICE TO DO THAT.

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>> HE GAVE US ALL A CHOCOLATE BAR. >> WHICH APPARENTLY IS FAMOUS FOR DOING. IT WAS POINTED OUT BY BUDDY, HE ALSO HEADS OUT THE WEIGHT LOSS

COMPETITION AND THEN HE GIVES CHOCOLATE BARS TO EVERYBODY. >> THAT'S SO HE CAN WIN.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH TO HIM AND MR. BYRD AND BUDDY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH IT WAS VERY SUCCESSFUL TRIP I THINK. WE WILL SEE HOW IT PANS OUT. I JUST SAW A COMMERCIAL ON TV TODAY. CONCOURSE IS COMING AGAIN. STAND BY FOR THAT.

AND EVERYTHING IT ENTAILS WITH THE CONCOURSE. SPENT TIME ON THE GREEN WAY AND I JUST WANT TO SAY THE CUTTING THEY DID RECENTLY HAS BEEN A LOT OF TIMES THEY CUT OUT, THERE WAS FEEDBACK AND A LOT OF POSITIVE FEEDBACK I SAW. A LOT OF PEOPLE WERE IMPRESSED BY THE WAY THAT WAS DONE AND REMOVING INVASIVE SPECIOUS. IT LOOKS GREAT.

IF YOU HAVE A CHANCE TO LOOK, NOW IS THE TIME. WANT TO GIVE GOOD THOUGHTS TO SERGEANT BILLY O'LEARY. HE'S A COUNTY EMPLOYEE AND SERVED WITH THE COMMUNITY AND NOT DOING WELL HEALTH WISE. I'M SURE YOU HAVE SEEN THE BILLBOARDS AND ALL THE THINGS.

BIG THOUGHTS ARE BILLY. AND GOOD

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