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>> MAYOR MILLER: WE'LL CALL TO ORDER AT THIS TIME. THIS IS THE FERNANDINA BEACH CITY COMMISSION REGULAR MEETING. TODAY IS JULY 21ST OF 2020. IT IS 6:00 P.M. MADAM CLERK IF YOU COULD CALL ROLL PLEASE.

OF ALLEGIANCE AND IF YOU COULD PLEASE REMAIN STANDING FOR THE INVOCATION

>> I'D JUST LIKE TO THANK THEM TO DOING THIS. IT IS AN HONOR OF PRIVILEGE. I NOTICE NONE OF YOU HAVE RUN DOWN THE ROAD GETTING AWAY FROM ME. THANK YOU. BOW YOUR HEADS. OH GOD AS WE BEGIN RULE OVER OUR DELIBERATIONS. BESIEGE THEE. TEACH US TO GIVE AND NOT COUNT THE COSTS. AND LABOR AND NOT ASK FOR END REWARDS SAY OF THAT KNOWING THAT WE DID THY WELL. AMEN.

>> MAYOR MILLER: THANK YOU. OKAY. 4.1. A PRESENTATION ON BY OUR CITY MANAGER. YOU HAVE THE

[Item 4.1]

FLOOR. >> CITY MANAGER: THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. AGAIN THIS IS A PRESENTATION ON THE IMPACT OF TOP TRACER AT THE FERNANDINA BEACH GOLF COURSE. WHAT ORIGINALLY DROVE THIS CONVERSATION WAS A RECENT REPORT CONDUCTED ON BEHALF OF THE CITY COMMISSION BY STAN TECH. BASICALLY THEIR FINDINGS WERE THAT THE CITY'S GOLF COURSE FUNDS AND MARINA FUNDS, CASH FLOWS ARE STRUCTURALLY UNSUSTAINABLE AND WILL REQUIRE SIGNIFICANT INCREASES IN REVENUE OR CASH FROM THE GENERAL FUND IN ORDER TO CONTINUE THEIR OPERATIONAL COSTS, DEBT SERVICE AND CAPITAL REQUIREMENTS. THE GENERAL FUND IS PROJECTED TO HAVE SUFFICIENT CASH FLOW SURPLUS TO SUPPORT THE MARINA AND THE GOLF COURSE FUND SHOULD THE CITY DESIRE TO DO SO. SO, LOOKING AT THE GOLF COURSE, THIS IS A PAGE FROM THE STAN TECH REPORT WHICH SHOWS THE STATUS QUO. THE FISCAL YEAR 2020 BUDGET IS THE BUDGET WE'RE ACTUALLY IN RIGHT NOW. IT SHOWS YOU THAT WE WILL OPERATE WITH A CASH FLOW DEFICIT THIS YEAR AS PROJECTED OF APPROXIMATELY $135,000 WHICH WILL BRING THE CUMULATIVE STRUCTURAL DEFICIT FROM THE PAST SEVERAL YEARS TO OVER $1.2 MILLION. IF WE MAINTAIN THIS STATUS QUO AS PROJECTED OUT FOR THE NEXT THREE YEARS AFTER THIS YEAR, WE WILL EVENTUALLY GET OUT OF THE CASH FLOW PROBLEM AS YOU CAN SEE IN THE LOWER RIGHT-HAND CORNER, WE WILL BE TO A POSITIVE $66,000 IN POSITIVE CASH FLOW BUT OUR STRUCTURAL DEBT HAS GROWN TO OVER $2 MILLION. THAT'S IF WE JUST MAINTAIN THE STATUS QUO. SO WHAT THE STAN TECH REPORT SAID IS YOU NEED TO INFUSE ADDITIONAL CASH SUPPORT FROM THE GENERAL FUND. IS ONE OPTION. SO, THIS TABLE, AGAIN PULLED FROM THE STAN TECH REPORT, SHOWS THAT, LET'S UP THE GENERAL FUND SUPPORT WHICH IS THE THIRD LINE RIGHT ABOVE THE FIRST, THE MIDDLE BLACK BAR. IN THE FIRST SLIDE THE GENERAL FUNDS WAS $220,000. WHAT THIS SAYS IS PUMP $800,000 A YEAR, SO, BASICALLY, ANOTHER HALF A MILLION DOLLARS A YEAR INTO THE GOLF COURSE AND YOU WILL SEE IN THE THREE YEARS, BY THE END, WE HAVE TURNED TO A POSITIVE CASH BALANCE, NET CASH FLOW OF $151,000 AND THE CUMULATIVE CASH FLOW DEFICIT IS WIPED OUT. OR, THE OTHER OPTION IS, INCREASES IN REVENUE AMOUNTS. AND THE TOTAL GENERAL FUND SUPPORT IF WE KEEP THE STATUS QUO IS ROUGHLY $2.8 MILLION. IF WE DID THE ADDITIONAL SUPPORT ON THE PAST SLIDE, THE TOTAL CASH SUPPORT IS $4 MILLION, ABOUT $1.2 MILLION MORE FROM THE GENERAL FUND. AND IF WE STILL HAVEN'T CHANGED ANY BUSINESS MODELS, WE JUST RUN A

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BETTER ACCOUNTING POSITION. SO THE SIGNIFICANT REVENUE INCREASES. SO, I AM AWARE OF THE FACT THAT THERE'S A FEAR THAT TOP GOLF IS COMING TO FERNANDINA BEACH. THIS IS TOP GOLF. THIS IS DOWN -- A SIMILAR FACILITY BY THE STEGE ST. JOHN'S TOWN CENTER. IT'S MASSIVE AND THIS IS WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE. THEE THREE BAYS. BUT WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT THIS. WE'RE NOT TALKING TOP GOLF. TOP TRACER IS A NEW WAY OF USING YOUR DRIVING RANGE. THESE PAGES ARE PULLED DIRECTLY FROM THE TOP TRACER WEBSITE AND IT TALKS ABOUT HOW YOU REVOLUTIONIZE YOUR DRIVING RANGE. IT IS A GAME CHANGER. IT REDEFINES YOUR DRIVING RANGE EXPERIENCE. FOR THOSE THAT AREN'T GOLFERS I AM SORRY FOR A LITTLE BIT OF THE TECHNICAL TALK WITH REGARD TO GOLF. YOU HAVE DIFFERENT GAME MODES. IT'S BASICALLY ARCADE GOLF. YOU CAN SIT IN THE DRIVING RANGE AND YOU CAN PLAY THREE DIFFERENT COURSES. YOU CAN PLAY AUGUSTA NATIONAL, YOU CAN PLAY PEBBLE BEACH, YOU CAN PLAY ST. ANDREWS ALL FROM YOUR OWN BAY. AND IT'S ALL SIMULATED ON TV MONITORS AND COMPUTERS. THIS IS WHAT TOP TRACER LOOKS LIKE. AND THIS IS, FOR YOUR FAMILIARITY, A TOP TRACER SET-UP THAT'S BEEN INSTALLED BY BILLY CASPER WHICH CURRENTLY MANAGES OUR OWN GOLF COURSE. THIS IS WHAT THEY'VE INSTALLED AT A FACILITY IN ROME, GEORGIA. AND IT JUST RECENTLY WENT LIVE. SO, RECENT ENOUGH WE DON'T HAVE ANY FINANCIALS AVAILABLE ON IT. BASICALLY WHAT YOU DO IS PUT A COVER OVER YOUR DRIVING RANGE. YOU CONCRETE SOME OF THE DRIVING RANGE TO PROVIDE FOR SOME OF THE INFRASTRUCTURE. SO, THIS IS WHAT TOP TRACER LOOKS LIKE.

WHEN WE FIRST PRESENTED THIS TO THE CITY COMMISSION, THE CITY COMMISSIONERS SAID WE'D LIKE TO SEE A MORE WELL DEVELOPED BUSINESS MODEL. SO WE APPROACHED THE FLORIDA SMALL BUSINESS DEVELOPMENT CENTER WHICH IS BASED OUT OF UNIVERSITY OF NORTH FLORIDA AND THEY SERVE 18 COUNTIES, AND WE SPECIFICALLY USED THE SERVICES AND EXPERIENCES OF MS. JODI HENSON.

SO, SHE WORKED WITH MYSELF AND MR. STEVE MURPHY, THE GENERAL MANAGER OF THE GOLF COURSE, TO DEVELOP A BUSINESS PLAN. PART OF HER DATA CAME FROM IBIS WORLD WHICH IS A EXPERT ANALYST FROM AROUND THE WORLD WHO SCOUR ECONOMIC DEMOGRAPHIC AND MARKET DATA AND ADD ANALYTICAL INSIGHT TO HELP YOU MAKE BETTER BUSINESS DECISIONS. WHAT SHE SPECIFICALLY LOOKS AT WAS THEIR REPORT IN REGARDS TO GOLF COURSES AND COUNTRY CLUBS. BECAUSE THERE'S A PERCEPTION THAT GOLF COURSES ARE DEAD AND DYING. AND HER REPORT SAYS THAT BASICALLY PARTICIPANTS IN THIS AGE GROUP, 18-49, CONTINUE TO PLAY GOLF AS A BUSINESS ACTIVITY AS WELL AS EMPLOYER'S HOLDING GOLF CENTERED AND COMPANY EVENTS. THAT'S FROM A FEBRUARY 2019 REPORT. AND THEN SPECIFICALLY IN REFERENCE TO DRIVING RANGES, IT IS A GROWING MARKET AND PROJECTED TO CONTINUE TO GROW AT AN ANNUALIZED RATE OF APPROXIMATELY 4%. AND THE BOTTOM PARAGRAPH SAYS OVER THE TEN YEARS TO 2024, INDUSTRY GROWTH WILL LIKELY OCCUR AS RECREATIONAL SPORTS AND RELATED ACTIVITIES ARE PARTICULARLY POPULAR AMONG RETIRING BABY BOOMERS. IT GOES ON TO SAY ABOUT THE IMPACT OF MEAL AND BEVERAGE SALES, WHICH WILL ACCOUNT FOR APPROXIMATELY 6.5% OF THE TOTAL REVENUE, THAT WILL CONTINUE TO GROW. AGAIN, THE BOTTOM PARAGRAPH. MORE INDIVIDUALS WILL BE WORKING MORE HOURS AND CONSUMERS WILL FIND IT INCREASINGLY DIFFICULT TO PARTICIPATE IN SPORT ACTIVITIES THEREFORE REDUCING DEMANDS. HOWEVER SOME BUSINESS SEGMENTS ARE DESIGNED TO ATTRACT TIME STRAPPED CUSTOMERS. FOR EXAMPLE, GOLF DRIVING RANGES ARE MORE TIMELY EFFICIENT COMPARED WITH GOLF COURSES. NOW THE NUMBERS GET A LITTLE SMALL TO READ. SO, THESE ARE THE CURRENT CAPITAL EXPENDITURES. AND I CAN MAKE THIS REPORT AVAILABLE TO PEOPLE THAT ARE INTERESTED. IT IS DIFFICULT TO MAIL BECAUSE IT'S SO LARGE. BUT THIS IS THE CURRENT CAPITAL EXPENDITURES INCLUDED IN THIS YEAR'S BUDGET. AND THEY'RE ALL RELATED TO EQUIPMENT. NOW IF WE WANT TO EXPAND INTO TOP TRACER WHAT MR. MURPHY HAS RECOMMENDED AT LEAST IN THIS YEAR ONE THING IS TO REMODEL THE CLUBHOUSE BATHROOMS. BUT THEN YOU GET INTO SOME OF THE TOP TRACER COSTS, $150,000 TO RENOVATE THE NORTH GREENS, $30,000 TO IMPROVE THE DRIVING RANGE WHICH NEEDS TO BE DONE ANYWAY, THEN $300,000 TO INSTALL THE TOP TRACER EQUIPMENT AND RENOVATE THE PRACTICE FACILITY ITSELF. SO THE CURRENT -- SO THE ADDITIONAL

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PROPOSED CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS WOULD BE APPROXIMATELY $480,000 BRINGING THE TOTAL CAPITAL EXPENDITURE THIS YEAR TO $635,000. WE HAVE ADDITIONAL IMPROVEMENTS OVER THE COURSE OF THE NEXT FEW YEARS. SO WHAT MS. HENSON PROJECTED WAS USING THE CASPER BUDGET IT SHOWS A LOSS THIS YEAR OF APPROXIMATELY $61,000. IF WE IMPLEMENT TOP TRACER, BASED UPON PROJECTIONS, WE WOULD TURN A CASH FLOW OF $72. IF WE IMPLEMENT TOP TRACER FOR THE LAST SIX MONTHS OF THIS YEAR. THE 12-MONTH VIEW OF TOP TRACER WILL GENERATE APPROXIMATELY $82,000 IN ADDITIONAL REVENUE. SO, WHEN YOU PLAY OUT THESE PROJECTIONS, THIS PROJECTION MIRRORS THE FIRST SLIDE, THE STATUS QUO, THE GENERAL FUND SUPPORT OF $220,000 ONGOING AS WELL AS THE CAPITAL OUTLAY FOR TOP TRACER. WHAT THAT SHOWS IS THAT WE WILL ELIMINATE THE STRUCTURAL DEBT AS WELL AS THE IMPROVING THE NET CASH FLOW IN THE YEAR 2028. AND THAT REQUIRES GENERAL FUND SUPPORT INCLUDING ELIMINATED, INDEPENDENTLY SUSTAINABLE BY 2028. IF WE ENHANCE THE GENERAL FUND SUPPORT AND GO FROM $220,000 WHICH WE HAVE THIS YEAR INCREASING THAT TO $500,000 OVER THE NEXT 3 YEARS, THAT REQUIRES $3.3 MILLION. AGAIN, ELIMINATING THE CUMULATIVE DEBT AND IMPROVING THE FINANCIAL SUSTAINABILITY BY ONE YEAR BY 2027. THERE'S NO ACTION REQUESTED ON THIS THIS EVENING. THIS WAS PRESENTED TO THE GOLF COURSE ADVISORY BOARD LAST WEEK, THE WEEK BEFORE. I WILL HAVE MS. HENSON -- UNFORTUNATELY THE CHAMBER OF COMMERCE ANNUAL EVENT THIS EVENING SO A LOT OF PEOPLE WEREN'T ABLE TO ATTEND TONIGHT'S MEETING BUT WE'LL PRESENT IT TO YOU FOR REQUEST TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE CAPITAL EXPENDITURES TO IMPLEMENT TOP TRACER LATER THIS YEAR. WITH THAT, I KNOW COMMISSIONER LEDNOVICH HAD A FEW OTHER SLIDES I'M NOT SURE

WHETHER HE WANTS ME TO SHOW THEM. >> COMMISSIONER LEDNOVICH: I THINK I'M GOING TO HOLD ON TO THEM UNTIL IT COMES UP FOR A VOTE.

[Item 4.2]

>> MAYOR MILLER: THANK YOU SIR. ITEM 4.2. THIS IS A BUDGET SUMMARY. MRS. TESTAGROSE IS HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS REGARDING OUR BUDGET FOR DECEMBER 2019.

>> SPEAKER: GOOD EVENING. DECEMBER IS THE THIRD MONTH AND REPRESENTS 25% OF THE BUDGETED FISCAL YEAR. FOR THE GENERAL FUND YEAR-TO-DATE REVENUE IS AT 61.5% OF THE ANNUAL BUDGET AND THIS IS DUE TO THE TIMING OF PROPERTY TAX RECEIPTS AND LOCAL BUSINESS TAX RECEIPTS. OVERALL GENERAL FUND EXPENSES ARE SLIGHTLY BELOW THE 25% MARK AT 22.2 PERCENT. BUT THERE ARE SEVERAL DEPARTMENTS THAT ARE OVER THE 25% MARK AND THAT'S DUE TO PAYMENTS ON ANNUAL MAINTENANCE, CONTRACTS AND PROFESSIONAL SERVICES. ALL INTERFUND TRANSFERS FOR THE MONTH HAVE BEEN COMPLETED. FOR THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT FUNDS INCOUPLE BRANCES AND/OR PAYMENTS HAVE BEEN ISSUED FOR I.T. EQUIPMENT, SIDEWALKS, BEACH MONITORING AND THE PECK CENTER ROOF REPAIR AND DOOR REPLACEMENT. GOLF COURSE REVENUES EXCEED EXPENSES -- EXCUSE ME, YES, GOLF COURSE REVENUES EXCEED EXPENSES DUE TO THE TRANSFER FROM THE GENERAL FUND. AIRPORT EXPENSES EXCEED REVENUES PRIMARILY DUE TO THE TIMING OF THE RECEIPTS FOR OTHER REVENUES. WHILE THE UTILITY FUND REVENUES EXCEED EXPENSES AND A MARINA CONTINUES TO HAVE

LIMITED OPERATIONS. DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? >> MAYOR MILLER: VICE MAYOR

KREGER? >> VICE MAYOR KREGER: I WILL BE INTERESTED TO SEE THE PLANNING FOR THE TOP GOLF AND TAKING MONEY OUT OF THE GENERAL FUND AND BASICALLY ACCELERATING COMING INTO THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN, INJECTING INTO THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN DURING THE YEAR ON THE AFFECT -- WHEN THAT HAPPENS ON THE AFFECT THAT HAS TO THE OTHER PRIORITIES IN THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN AND THE FINAL RESERVE ISSUES. I'D ALSO LIKE TO SEE ALONG WITH THAT THE ACTUAL COSTS IN EXTENDED FOR EVERYTHING WITH THE MARINA AND HOW THAT IS GOING TO AFFECT OUR RESERVES BEFORE WE MAKE ANY DECISIONS ON ANYTHING OTHER THAN IN THE CURRENT PLAN.

>> MAYOR MILLER: WHAT'S THE STATUS OF THE RESERVES RIGHT NOW?

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>> SPEAKER: THE UNOFFICIAL RESERVES ARE AT $2.6 MILLION AND THAT DOES NO THE INCLUDE THE

EMERGENCY RESERVES WHICH IS AT $4.5 MILLION. >> MAYOR MILLER: THANK YOU.

ANYONE ELSE? THANK YOU, MA'AM. OKAY. ITEM 5, PUBLIC COMMENT ON ITEMS NOT ON THE AGENDA OR ON

[Item 5]

THE CONSENT AGENDA. I HAVE ONE REQUEST TO SPEAK. MR. TIM GREEN. WELCOME, SIR.

>> PUBLIC SPEAKER: THANK YOU. I'VE CHANGED THINGS HERE A LITTLE BIT FROM WHAT I WAS GOING

TO SAY. I'D LIKE TO START BY -- >> MAYOR MILLER: NAME AND ADDRESS PLEASE.

>> PUBLIC SPEAKER: TIM GREEN 1119 OF GIVING AN ELDERLY PERSON A MEAN LOOK. I FIND THAT INSULTING. NOT TO ME, TO MY PARENTS. THAT'S RIGHT, TO MY PARENTS BECAUSE I WAS RAISED BETTER THAN THAT. OKAY. SO, I FIND THAT VERY INSULTING. SO, I WANT TO GO ON -- YOU ALL SEE THAT I GAVE YOU ALL A LITTLE PACKET THERE. IT'S GOT AN EMAIL THERE. I WANT TO GO DOWN THE ROAD OF WHY I WENT FOR THE HDC.

I HAVE TO DO THIS QUICK BECAUSE I AIN'T GOT MUCH TIME. THE FIRST THING ON THE AGENDA WAS MY DRIVEWAY. IT WAS A BIG TO DO ABOUT MY DRIVEWAY. WENT BACK AND FORTH. I SAID LISTEN I'M TRYING TO SAVE THESE TREES. I WORKED WITH MR. COMELLA. HE SAID STAY AWAY FROM THIS SEWER, CLEAN OUT SEWER. I SAID CAN WE BRING IT OVER THERE. HE SAID YES THAT WOULD BE FINE. BUT AT THE TIME CHAIRMAN HARRISON DIDN'T SEE IT THAT WAY. HE WANTED ME TO BRING THAT DRIVEWAY THE WAY HE WANTED IT. SO, I FINALLY CAVED IN AND SAID ALL RIGHT I'LL DO IT. BUT THEN YOU KNOW WHAT HAPPENED NEXT? WE CAN'T EVEN HAVE THAT GARAGE. SO, WHEN YOU WON THAT BATTLE YOU WENT TO ANOTHER BATTLE. WHY CAN'T I HAVE THAT GARAGE? WELL BECAUSE YOU DON'T HAVE A PRIMARY WITH THIS SECONDARY. I'M THINKING YOU KNOW WHAT I WORKED AT THE CITY OVER A YEAR WITH THIS. STEP BY STEP. YOU CAN LOOK AT THEM E-MAILS FROM SAM COMELLA AND THAT'S JUST FROM THE TIME WE WERE DENIED. OKAY. YOU CAN LOOK AT IT. MR. ROSS WAS SITTING THERE. HE SEEN THIS CIRCUS GOING ON YOU KNOW. AND I'M, LIKE, REALLY. I CAN'T BELIEVE THIS. YOU KNOW WHEN WE WENT BACK FOR THE SECOND MEETING, THIS IS WHAT REALLY JUST TEARS ME ALL TO PIECES.

THEN MR. HARRISON, HE WAS NOT THE CHAIR NO MORE. BUT HE SAID TO MR. COMELLA SHOW ME WHERE THIS MAN CAN HAVE THIS? SO, I PULLED IT UP AND SHOWED IT TO HIM. MR. COMELLA COMPLAINED THE RULES TO ME. HE EXPLAINED TO ME THAT WHOLE SECTION OF LAND HAS TO BE SOLD AS ONE. I ACCEPTED THAT. BUT HE BROUGHT IT UP AND SHOWED IT TO HIM. AND MR. HARRISON'S RESPONSE, I DON'T AGREE WITH THAT. SAL, I BELIEVE YOU ARE PLAYING GAMES WITH ME. YOU KNOW SOMETHING? FOR AS MUCH MONEY AS I GOT IN THAT PLACE AND HARD WORK I SURE HOPE NOBODY WAS PLAYING GAMES YOU KNOW. IT'S HARD TO GET OUT IN THREE MINUTES THE PURE H-E-DOUBLE L ME AND MY WIFE IS GOING THROUGH. YOU KNOW. I MEAN, IT'S SICKENING. IT'S JUST UTE EVERILY SICKENING. BUT I TELL YOU WHAT, LIKE I SAID, IT'S RATHER INSULTING TO ME FOR SOMEBODY OF THAT AGE TO SAY I GAVE THEM DIRTY LOOKS.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR TIME. >> MAYOR MILLER: THANK YOU SIR.

>> PUBLIC SPEAKER: I'LL SEE YOU TOMORROW MR. MARTIN. >> MAYOR MILLER: THAT IS THE ONLY REQUEST I HAVE TO SPEAK. BEFORE WE GO ON THE CONSENT AGENDA I DID HAVE THE REQUEST TO

[Item 9.4]

MOVE ITEM 9.4 FURTHER UP. WE HAVE SOME PEOPLE HERE WE DON'T WANT TO MAKE WAIT FOR THE ENTIRE MEETING. LET'S TURN TO ITEM 9.4 REGARDING THE NAME OF THE PECK GYM. MR. KREGER YOU HAVE THE

FLOOR. V >> VICE MAYOR KREGER: I GOT A REQUEST FROM THE PET ASSOCIATION TO BASICALLY CONSIDER RECOMMEND THE NAMING OF THE PET GYM THE NELSON P. WILLIAMS GYM. AND

MR. FINK IS HERE IF YOU COULD COME UP AND BRIEFLY -- >> MAYOR MILLER: WELCOME, SIR.

>> SPEAKER: MY NAME IS NEIL FRANK. I LIVE AT 85306 FROMM AGANZET DRIVE. I AM A PROUD

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CITIZEN OF FERNANDINA. BORN AND RAISED IN OLD TOWN AND GRADUATE OF PECK HIGH SCHOOL. THANK YOU FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION, MR. MAYOR, AND COMMISSIONERS, AND CITY MANAGER FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION OF NAMING THE PECK GYM NELSON PAUL WILLIAMS GYM. BUT AS PRESIDENT OF THE PECK ALUMNI ASSOCIATION WE'RE CONCERNED ABOUT THINGS THAT WE SEE AT PECK AND IT WILL ONLY TAKE A MINUTE. PECK IS A PART OF THE HISTORIC, NOT DISTRICT BUT I THINK IT IS A HISTORIC SITE.

BUT PECK IS A VERY HISTORIC SCHOOL BECAUSE IT WAS FOUNDED BY JULIUS WASHINGTON. WHEN THEY BUILT PECK SCHOOL I THINK IT COST $59,000. PROFESSOR PECK AND HIS GROUP RAISED ANOTHER $40,000 TO COMPLETE. WHEN WE WALK IN PECK ITSELF AS MANY OF YOU HAVE, I DON'T SEE THE HISTORY ON THE WALLS AND I DON'T FEEL THE HISTORY LIKE WE DO IN WALKING INTO OTHER MUSEUMS SO TO SPEAK. IT SHOULD TELL THE HISTORY OF THE SCHOOL. IN THE PECK ALUMNI ALONG WITH OTHER PEOPLE WOULD LIKE TO HELP WITH SOME OF WHAT WE SEE ON THE WALLS OF PECK.

BECAUSE WE HAVE A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT CONTRIBUTED TO PECK AND THEIR NAME IS NOT EVEN MENTIONED. IT'S ALL OF OUR HISTORY, NOT JUST THE BLACK HISTORY, IT'S FERNANDINA HISTORY, AMERICAN HISTORY. PROFESSOR PECK'S PICTURE IS THERE, MS. ASHTON'S PICTURE IS THERE. WE HAVE JULIUS'S PICTURE IS NOT THERE AND IT SHOULD BE. BOOKER T. WASHINGTON'S PICTURE IS NOT THERE AND SHOULD BE THERE. AND IF I CAN SHOW YOU ONE MINUTE HERE. I GRADUATED PECK IN 1959. STARTED IN '47. THIS IS THE FIRST PRINCIPAL WE HAD IN NASSAU COUNTY. THURSTON.

WE CAN'T PUT ALL THE SCHOOLTEACHERS PICTURES ON PECK BUT WE CAN PUT THE ONES THAT WAS THE FIRST THERE. THIS IS A PICTURE WHO SOME OF YOU KNOW. THIS IS JOHNNY ROBINSON'S FATHER. HE WAS THE FIRST COACH AT PECK, 1948-49. HE WAS THERE. THIS IS THE FIRST MUSIC DIRECTOR, THE MARCHING BAND AND THE CONCERT BAND. CLARENCE SIMMONS. HE WAS THERE AT PECK.

I HAVE A FEW MORE THINGS BUT WE SHOULD CONSIDER AND I'M WILLING TO HELP THE PECK ALUMNI HAVING SOMETHING TO SAY ABOUT WHAT GOES ON THE WALLS OF PECK BECAUSE WE HAVE TO HONOR OUR HISTORY. EACH ONE OF YOU TOMORROW WILL BE TALKING ABOUT YOUR HISTORY. AND NELSON WILLIAMS, HE WAS THE COACH AT PECK. HE WAS THE THIRD COACH AT PECK. UNTIL NELSON WILLIAMS CAME TO PECK HIGH SCHOOL, OUR FOOTBALL UNIFORMS WERE HANDED DOWN FROM FERNANDINA HIGH SCHOOL. AND I SAY THIS JOKINGLY, WE GOT EVERYTHING EXCEPT THE JOCKEY STRAPS WHEN NELSON CAME WE CHANGED ALL OF THAT. HE STARTED BUYING US JERSEYS AND PADS AND PANTS AND SHOES AND HELMETS AND THINGS AND SUCH A BIG RELIEF. WE SOLD PODS. WE WENT TO THE SHRIMP BOAT AND GOT SHRIMP AND SOLD THAT TO RAISE MONEY FOR THE FOOTBALL TEAM. NELSON WAS THERE BEFORE M. STREET REC WAS BUILT. HE WAS ONE OF THE LEADERS IN THE COMMUNITY FOR M. STREET REC AND BEFORE THE PECK GYM. PECK GYM DID NOT UNTIL 1956. NELSON WAS THE LEADER THERE. HE WAS AN EX-MARINE LIKE SOME OF US. NOT ME HE HAD FIVE BROTHERS AND TWO SISTERS I THINK. AND HE WAS A D. I. IN THE MARINE. SO, YOU CAN IMAGINE HOW HE DRILLED US AND HE REALLY WORKED US THROUGH THE MUD. BUT HE WAS A GREAT, GREAT, GREAT GUY. WE DIDN'T HAVE A CHAMPIONSHIP BASKETBALL TEAM, FOOTBALL TEAM. WE MANAGED ALL THAT THROUGH NELSON PAUL WILLIAMS. THAT IS HIS NAME. LIVED ON THE CORNER OF 7TH AND GUM STREET NORTHWEST CORNER OF THAT. HE BROUGHT SO MUCH TO PECK AND GAVE US SUCH A PROUD FEELING. YOUNG MEN WHOSE FATHERS WERE FISHING OR SHRIMPING HE WAS OUR FATHER.

AND HE WAS SUCH A GREAT GUY. I JUST CAN'T THANK HIM ENOUGH. AS TIME GOES ON, WE SEEM TO BE FORGETTING ABOUT OUR HISTORY. AND WE CAN'T DO THAT. AND PECK IS A GREAT PLAY IS TO EXPRESS OUR HISTORY. AND I'D LIKE TO CLOSE WITH THE WHOLE AFRICAN-AMERICAN PROVERB THAT APPLIES TO ALL OF US. WE ALL HAVE HISTORY. FAMILY HISTORY. OUR SCHOOL HISTORY. BUT THE PROVERB STATES SUCH: UNTIL THE LION FINDS SOMEONE TO TELL THEIR STORY, THE STORY WILL ALWAYS BE TOLD BY THE HUNTER. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

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THIS IS A PICTURE OF NELSON. HE LIVED IN PHILADELPHIA WHEN HE DIED. HE DIED ABOUT EIGHT YEARS

AGO I THINK. >> MAYOR MILLER: THANK YOU VERY MUCH. VICE MAYOR?

>> VICE MAYOR KREGER: SO, YOU KNOW, I THINK IT'S VERY IMPORTANT THAT WE REMEMBER THE HISTORY OF OUR CULTURE AND DON'T LOSE IT IN THE PROCESS. AND PECK IS A PERFECT EXAMPLE. SO, I WOULD WITH CONSENSUS WOULD LIKE TO PROCEED WITH NAMING OF THE GYM SOS I DON'T KNOW HOW WE DO THAT, I GUESS WE HAVE TO BRING IT BACK, BUT IF WE CAN BRING THAT BACK AT MAYBE THE

NEXT MEETING FOR A VOTE AND GET IT DONE. >> MAYOR MILLER: THAT SOUNDS

GREAT. >> VICE MAYOR KREGER: YOU WERE ON THE CHAMPIONSHIP TEAM RIGHT?

>> PUBLIC SPEAKER: I WAS IN 1959. AND I HAVE SOME OTHER MEMBERS HERE THAT WAS ON THERE.

>> VICE MAYOR KREGER: THAT WAS PROBABLY THE ONLY ONE WE HAD RIGHT?

>> MAYOR MILLER: THANK YOU. A FANTASTIC HISTORY LESSON. THAT WILL FOREVER BE IN THE CITY RECORD. SO, THANK YOU FOR THAT, SIR. ALL RIGHT. LET'S GO BACK TO WHERE WE STARTED FROM. BACK

[Consent Agenda]

TO THE CONSENT AGENDA. SO, DO I HAVE A MOTION ON THE CONSENT AGENDA OR WOULD ANYBODY LIKE AN

ITEM PULLED OFF. >> I'D LIKE 6.3. >> AND 6.2 SHOULD BE REMOVED.

>> MAYOR MILLER: 6.2 IS PULLED. LET'S VOTE ON 6.1, 6.4 AND 6.5. XHIPGS

>> COMMISSIONER: RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF THOSE THREE. >> COMMISSIONER: SECOND.

>> MAYOR MILLER: A MOTION RAND A SECOND. MADAM CLERK CALL VOTE. >> YES

>> YES >> YES. >> YES. YES.

>> MAYOR MILLER: IF YOU GUYS WOULD LIKE TO EXIT YOU DON'T HAVE TO HANG AROUND THE WHOLE TIME IF YOU DON'T WANT TO. I MEAN, YOU ARE WELCOME TO STAY IF YOU WANT TO

[Item 6.3]

FACILITIES USE AGREEMENT WITH THE BUCCANEER REGION SCCA. YOU WOULD LIKE THAT PULLED, SIR, SO

YOU HAVE THE FLOOR M MR. LEDNOVICH. >> COMMISSIONER LEDNOVICH: AS MOST PEOPLE ARE AWARE OR SHOULD BE AWARE, THIS IS A FORM OF RACING AT THE AIRPORT. AND WE HAD IT LAST YEAR. WE'VE HAD IT SEVERAL YEARS. SO MY ONE AND ONLY QUESTION, I DON'T OPPOSE THIS, BUT MY ONE AND ONLY QUESTION IS, HOW MANY DISTURBANCE COMPLAINTS DID WE

RECEIVE FROM LAST YEAR'S EVENTS? >> ZERO. >> COMMISSIONER LEDNOVICH:

THAT'S ALL I HAVE. >> MAYOR MILLER: DO YOU HAVE A MOTION?

>> COMMISSIONER: RECOMMEND APPROVAL. >> MAYOR MILLER: I HAVE A MOTION

AND A SECOND. PLEASE CALL THE VOTE. >> VICE MAYOR KREGER.

>> YES. >> COMMISSIONER? YES. >>

>> MAYOR MILLER: RESOLUTION THIS IS 7.1. A MOTION TO RECONSIDER APPROVAL FOR THE BHIDE AND HALL

[Item 7.1]

ARCHITECTS. >> I'M BRINGING THIS BACK TO YOU BASED UPON DISCUSSIONS AT THE LAST MEETING AS WELL AS INDIVIDUAL DISCUSSIONS SINCE THEN. AT THE LAST MEETING YOU UNANIMOUSLY ENDORSED A PROPOSAL FROM BHIDE AND HALL ARCHITECTS TO REVIEW WITH HISTORIC PERSPECTIVE THE RENOVATION OF THIS BUILDING AND THE POSSIBLE DEVELOPMENT OF A NEW CITY HALL AT THE ADJACENT SITE. THE ORIGINAL PROPOSAL FROM BHIDE AND HALL WAS TO EVALUATE FOUR SITES.

NOT ONLY THESE TWO SITES BUT ALSO THE POST OFFICE AND THE PECK CENTER. I THINK WE'VE LEARNED MORE ABOUT THE PECK CENTER THIS EVENING. AND THE POST OFFICE WAS ELIMINATED FROM CONSIDERATION. SO, I FELT THAT WE CAN -- SINCE THE TWO SITES HAVE BEEN REDUCED TO THIS CURRENT SITE AND NEXT DOOR, WHY NOT GO FORWARD INSTEAD OF DOING ASSESSMENT OF THE SITES DO A FORMAL REQUEST FOR -- SO I'D LIKE TO RESCIND THE MOTION THAT OR THE RESOLUTION THAT YOU

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ADOPTED AT THE LAST MEETING. THAT'S THE FIRST TASK. OB FIRST REQUEST. IF YOU MOVE FORWARD WITH THAT, WHAT I'D LIKE TO DO IS PREPARE A REQUEST FOR QUALIFICATIONS FOR SEVERAL TASKS TO BEGIN WITH DOING A NEEDS ANALYSIS OF WHAT IS NEEDED FOR LOCAL GOVERNMENT OPERATIONS AND THEN EXAMINE THOSE SITES AND SOME ADDITIONAL SITES THAT COMMISSIONER ROSS HAS INDICATED WE SHOULD LOOK AT THE -- IF THEY'RE INTERESTED IN SELLING THE PROPERTY IS THE BUILDING THAT CURRENTLY HOUSES THE SCHOOL ADMINISTRATIVE OFFICES ACROSS THE STREET FROM CENTRAL PARK.

DO A NEEDS ASSESSMENT, REVIEW THE VARIOUS SITES AND DETERMINE HOW TO PROCEED WITH THE NEW OR

RENOVATED FACILITY. THAT'S WHAT'S BEFORE YOU THIS EVENING. >> MAYOR MILLER: THANK YOU, SIR.

COMMISSIONER ROSS, YOU ARE RECOGNIZED. >> COMMISSIONER ROSS: I MOVE THAT WE RECONSIDER THE MOTION FROM LAST WEEK AND THEN MOVE TO RESEND THE PREVIOUS -- RESCIND THE PREVIOUS MOTION AND THEN MOVE THAT WE TASK THE CITY MANAGER TO DO A RFP FOR NEEDS

ANALYSIS FOR THE CITY HALL. >> MAYOR MILLER: I THINK YOU DOUBLE TAPPED THAT ONE.

>> CITY ATTORNEY: SO I HAD SOME TIME TO THINK TODAY SINCE MORNING MEETINGS FROM COMMISSIONER. I THINK THE BEST THING TO DO, MAKE A MOTION TO RECONSIDER AND SEE IF THAT PASSES. IT BRINGS THE ITEM BACK TO THE TABLE AS WRITTEN THEN YOU CAN MAKE A SECOND MOTION TO DISAPPROVE THE RESOLUTION. BECAUSE IF WE'RE RECONSIDERING IT THEN WE WOULDN'T BE

RESCINDING. >> COMMISSIONER: MOVE TO RECONSIDERATION.

>> COMMISSIONER: SECOND. >> MAYOR MILLER: I RECOGNIZE COMMISSIONER LEDNOVICH AS WELL.

>> COMMISSIONER LEDNOVICH: I AM TOTALLY CONFUSED. >> MAYOR MILLER: HE MADE TWO

MOTIONS ON TOP OF EACH OTHER SO HE JUST SEPARATED THE TWO. >> COMMISSIONER LEDNOVICH: I

THOUGHT THE FIRST MOTION HAD TO BE TO RESCIND. >> CITY ATTORNEY: TO RECONSIDER.

MEANING WE'RE PUTTING IT BACK ON THE TABLE THE SAME ACTION TAKEN AT THE LAST MEETING.

>> COMMISSIONER LEDNOVICH: GOT IT. BUT I HAD ANOTHER QUESTION. >> MAYOR MILLER: VICE MAYOR

KR KREGER? >> VICE MAYOR KREGER: I AM CONFUSED I SECONDED BUT BASICALLY WHAT I THOUGHT WE DID LAST MEETING WAS BASICALLY SAY THAT THIS PROPOSAL WAS SUPPOSED TO BE LIMITED TO THE CURRENT CITY HALL AND THIS AREA WHICH WOULD BE ADJACENT BUILDING. IN OTHER WORDS WE SCRATCHED THE POST OFFICE AND WE SCRATCHED PECK. SO THAT'S THE WAY WE'RE MOVING, THAT'S FINE. I DO SUPPORT GOING OUT OF RFQ LOOKING

FOR SOMEBODY TO LOOK AT IT. I'LL JUST LEAVE IT AT THAT. >> MAYOR MILLER: COMMISSIONER

LEDNOVICH? >> COMMISSIONER LEDNOVICH: I CONCUR THAT I THOUGHT WE HAD LIMITED IT TO THIS PARCEL WITH THE POSSIBILITY OF ALSO BUILDING ACROSS THE STREET. ONLY THAT.

AND SO THAT THE SCHOOL PROPERTY WOULD NOT EVEN BE IN TO PLAY BECAUSE WE TALKED ABOUT CITY HALL HAVING TO BE DOWNTOWN. SO MY ARGUMENT WOULD BE WHY PAY SOMEONE TO CONSIDER A PARCEL

THAT SHOULDN'T EVEN BE ON THE LIST. >> MAYOR MILLER: COMMISSIONER

ROSS? >> COMMISSIONER ROSS: I THINK WE'RE GETTING INTO A DISCUSSION THAT WE HAVEN'T AGREED TO RECONSIDER YET. I THINK WE FIRST NEED TO CONCLUDE THAT

MOTION THEN WE CAN CARRY ON WITH THE CONVERSATION. >> MAYOR MILLER: CALL THE VOTE

PLEASE. >> JUST TO BE CLEAR, THIS IS A MOTION TO RECONSIDER. OKAY.

VICE MAYOR KREGER. YES. COMMISSIONER ROSS. YES. COMMISSIONER LEDNOVICH. YES.

COMMISSIONER CHAPMAN. YES. MAYOR MILLER. YES. MARE >> COMMISSIONER ROSS: NOW I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO RESCIND THE PREVIOUS NOTION AND TO REPLACE A MOTION TO DO THE NEEDS ANALYSIS. I THINK WE'RE GETTING THE CART BEFORE THE HORSE. BEFORE WE KNOW -- THIS BUILDING MAY NOT BE BIG ENOUGH TO FULFILL OUR NEEDS. SO, DO A NEEDS ANALYSIS TO FIGURE OUT WHAT WE NEED AND THEN LOOK AT, WILL THIS BUILDING DO IT, WILL THE ONE NEXT DOOR DO IT? THE SCHOOL BOARD BUILDING IS -- I MEAN, IT IS A HISTORIC BUILDING AT 16 ACRES. THE LIKELIHOOD THEY'RE GOING TO SELL IT IS SLIM TO NONE. BUT IT IS A POSSIBILITY. BUT BEFORE WE DECIDE ON WHAT BUILDING WE'RE GOING TO DO, FIRST FIGURE OUT WHAT WE NEED. TO SEE IF THE BUILDING WOULD EVEN ACCOMMODATE THAT. THERE'S NO POINT LOOKING AT A BUILDING THAT CAN'T

ACCOMMODATE YOUR NEEDS. THAT'S ALL. >> MAYOR MILLER: VICE MAYOR

KREGER? >> VICE MAYOR KREGER: IT IS MY UNDERSTANDING THAT --

>> MAYOR MILLER: I'M SORRY. LET ME GET A SECOND. >> VICE MAYOR KREGER: I'LL SECOND IT. A NEEDS ASSESSMENT IS FINE. WE DISCUSSED THE -- THE COMP PLAN STRONGLY

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RECOMMENDS THAT GOVERNMENT FACILITIES REMAIN IN THE HISTORIC DISTRICT. IT DOESN'T ACTUALLY SAY CITY HALL. IT ACTUALLY SAYS THE POST OFFICE AND THE LIBRARY. I BELIEVE WE WANT TO KEEP IT DOWNTOWN. YOU KNOW, A NEEDS ASSESSMENT, WE'LL DO THAT. YOU KNOW, I JUST DON'T WANT TO KEEP ADDING STUFF ON, YOU KNOW. SO, I THOUGHT OUR DECISION WAS LOOKING AT THIS AND THE ADJACENT BUILDING, ADJACENT AREA. THE ORIGINAL POST OFFICE I THINK WAS 18,000 SQUARE FEET.

THIS IS 9. SO WE DEFINITELY -- THIS BUILDING -- WE DON'T EVEN KNOW IF THIS BUILDING IS SALEABLE. SO A NEEDS ASSESSMENT IS FINE. BUT WE ALSO SHOULD INCLUDE ARCHITECTURAL OR ENGINEERING REVIEW TO DETERMINE IF THIS IS EVEN A FEASIBLE BUILDING.

>> MAYOR MILLER: COMMISSIONER LEDNOVICH? >> COMMISSIONER LEDNOVICH: AND, AGAIN, I WOULD MAKE THE ARGUMENT, AND YOU SAID IT YOURSELF, COMMISSIONER ROSS. THE LIKELIHOOD OF THAT SCHOOL PROPERTY BEING FOR SALE OR THEM SELLING IT TO US, THAT'S THE POST OFFICE CHASE CHAPTER 2. SO, WHY EVEN SPEND ANY MONEY EVEN GOING DOWN THAT PATH? AND WHEN YOU HIRE SOMEONE TO DO A NEEDS ASSESSMENT, GUESS WHAT? THEY GO ALL OVER THE MAP. AND I CANNOT BELIEVE THAT BETWEEN THIS BUILDING BEING RENOVATED AND BUILDING A NEW STRUCTURE ACROSS THE STREET, HAVING TWO BUILDINGS WOULDN'T ACCOMMODATE OUR CURRENT STAFF AND FUTURE NEEDS. SO THAT'S WHY I BELIEVE WE SHOULD JUST LIMIT IT TO THIS PARCEL AND THE PARCEL NEXT TO US.

>> MAYOR MILLER: COMMISSIONER ROSS? >> COMMISSIONER ROSS: I AM NOT DISPUTING THAT. I JUST SAID DO A NEEDS ANALYSIS AND SEE WHAT OUR NEEDS ARE AND THEN MOVE FORWARD WITH THE NEXT STEP. BUT DO THE NEEDS ANALYSIS FIRST. AND THEN DO THE -- JUST BREAK IT

OUT. NEEDS ANALYSIS AND THEN GO FROM THERE. THAT'S ALL. >> MAYO

>> COMMISSIONER: AND THE SCHOOL BOARD BUILDING, I AGREE, THAT WILL TAKE TWO WEEKS AND WE'LL KNOW ONE WAY OR THE OTHER. WE DON'T HAVE TO PAY ANYBODY TO DO THAT. I TALKED TO KATHY BURNS TODAY. WHAT SHE SAID WAS, PROBABLY NOT, BUT LET'S BRING IT UP. WE'RE HAVING A WORKSHOP WITH THEM. BRING IT UP IN THE WORKSHOP, IF THAT I SAY NO, WE'RE DONE. BUT IT IS 16 ACRES.

AND IT IS -- THEY'RE LETTING THE BUILDING DETERIORATE AND IT IS A HISTORIC BUILDING. AND WE JUST HAD A NICE LITTLE TALK ABOUT OUR HISTORY, THAT'S PART OF THE HISTORY OF THIS TOWN AND THEY'RE LETTING IT -- I MEAN, I WALKED AROUND -- DROVE AROUND THE EXTERIOR OF THE BUILDING AND THEY'RE LETTING IT FALL APART. AND I ALSO THINK THAT WE -- ONE OF THE THINGS I'M GOING TO ASK TO PUT ON THAT AGENDA IS PUTTING THAT INTO THE HISTORIC DISTRICT. BECAUSE THAT IS PART OF THE HISTORY OF THIS TOWN. I MEAN, I'M LIMIT THE MOTION TO JUST DOING A NEEDS ANALYSIS.

>> MAYOR MILLER: THANK YOU, SIR. I AGREE. I'M GLAD THAT MEETING IS MOVED TO THAT BUILDING. I'VE NEVER BEEN -- NEVER HAD A TOUR OF AFT. I'M INTERESTED TO SEE HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE STAFFED THERE AND WHERE THEY'RE AT. I'M GLAD IT'S IN THAT BUILDING. I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO SEEING INSIDE THERE. I HAVE A MOTION AND SECOND. MADAM CLERK IF YOU COULD CALL ROLL.

>> COMMISSIONER ROSS. YES. COMMISSION LEAD YES. VICE MAYOR KREGER. YES. MAYOR MILLER. YES.

>> MAYOR MILLER: 7.2 A FRANCHISE AGREEMENT WITH THE HARRELL LAND

LL DBA FERNANDINA BEACH MARKETPLACE. >> EXCUSE ME MR. MAYOR WE HAD A

REQUEST TO SPEAK. >> CITY ATTORNEY: SORRY. WE SHOULD DID.

>> MAYOR MILLER: COME ON UP. >> PUBLIC SPEAKER: SORRY TO INTERRUPT.

>> MAYOR MILLER: IT WAS OUR BAD NOT YOURS. >> PUBLIC SPEAKER: STEVE COOK 2629 RACHEL AVENUE HERE IN FERNANDINA BEACH. THE REASON I WANT TO TALK IS YOU ARE CALLING IT A NEEDS ANALYSIS. WHAT I SAW WHEN I FIRST SAW THIS THING IS BASICALLY YOU ARE PUTTING THE CART BEFORE THE HORSE. NOW I DISAGREE A LITTLE BIT ABOUT SAYING IF YOU DO A NEEDS ANALYSIS IT OPENS UP THE WORLD. THIS IS CALLED PROGRAMMING IN ARCHITECTURAL LANGUAGE.

BASICALLY WHAT THE ARCHITECT WILL DO, HE'LL ANALYZE WHAT YOU HAVE EXISTING THEN HE'LL ASK THE DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS WHAT THEY THINK THEY NEED. THEN HE'LL DO A REPORT BASICALLY THAT GIVES YOU THE SQUARE FOOTAGES, THE RELATIONSHIPS AND WHAT YOU NEED. HOW CAN YOU MAKE A DECISION AND

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HAVE A FUSS OVER WHERE TO PUT SOMETHING WHEN YOU DON'T KNOW HOW BIG IT'S GOING TO BE IN THE FIRST PLACE? SECOND, YOU DON'T KNOW WHICH DEPARTMENTS NEED TO BE ADJACENT TO THE OTHERS.

CONCEIVABLY, SOME DEPARTMENTS IN THE CITY DON'T NEED TO HAVE ACCESS. WHEN YOU HAVE A CITY ATTORNEY IT'S DOWN OVER ON PECK. SO, I WOULD EMPHASIZE TO YOU WHEN YOU HAVE THIS PROPOSAL, GO AHEAD AND GET A PROGRAM AND PROPOSAL, HAVE IT BROKEN OUT HAVE THEM GO TO THE DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS, FIGURE OUT WHAT YOU NEED AND COME BACK AND GIVE YOU GUYS AN IDEA HOW MANY SQUARE FEET YOU NEED AND BASICALLY YOU COULD ALSO GET A ROUGH COST OF WHAT, QUOTE, A NEW BUILDING WOULD BE AT THAT TIME. THAT WOULD GIVE YOU SOME NUMBERS TO TALK ABOUT THEN YOU CAN HAVE A

DISCUSSION AS TO WHERE YOU ARE GOING TO PUT IT. THANK YOU. >> MAYOR MILLER: THANK YOU, SIR.

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OKAY. NOW ITEM 7.2. >> SPEAKER: THIS WAS BEFORE THE CITY

>> COMMISSIONER: AT THE LAST MEETING. WAS SENT BACK FOR FURTHER REVIEW. CITY STAFF HAS AMENDED THE PROPOSED FRANCHISE AGREEMENT FOR A FIVE-YEAR TERM FOR AN ANNUAL FRANCHISE FEE OF $1,500 WHICH WILL INCLUDE THE ELECTRICAL COSTS. THOSE ARE THE TWO PRIMARY CHANGES FROM WHAT WAS PREVIOUSLY PROPOSED. IN SOME INFORMAL DISCUSSIONS WITH DR. LEE AND I THINK I SAW HER HERE -- THERE IN THE CORNER, THEY INDICATED THEY WERE SUPPORTIVE OF THOSE CHANGES AND

THIS DOCUMENT IS MOVING FORWARD. >> COMMISSIONER: I RECOMMEND APPROVAL.

>> COMMISSIONER: SECOND. >> MAYOR MILLER: I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. MADAM CLERK IF YOU

COULD CALL THE VOTE. >> COMMISSIONER LEDNOVICH? YES. COMMISSIONER CHAPMAN? YES.

VICE MAYOR KREGER. YES. COMMISSIONER ROSS? YES. MAYOR MILLER? YES.

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>> MAYOR MILLER: ITEM 7.3. SOLE SOURCE VENDOR APPROVAL. THIS IS FOR GIS, GEOGRAPHIC IMAGING SYSTEM SOFTWARE FOR THE UTILITIES DEPARTMENT TO COMPLY WITH USCPA RISK AND RESILIENCY ASSESSMENTS. THIS WILL PROVIDE A GIS LAYERS THAT WILL DENOTE INFRASTRUCTURE SYSTEM AND IT CAN ALSO BE UTILIZED FOR OTHER DEPARTMENTS AS WELL SUCH AS PLANNING AND STORM WATER

DEVEL DEVELOPMENTS. -- DEPARTMENTS. >> MAYOR MILLER: THANK YOU SIR.

>> COMMISSIONER: MOVE TO APPROVE. >> COMMISSIONER: SECOND.

>> MAYOR MILLER: VICE MAYOR KREGER YOU ARE RECOGNIZED SIR. >> VICE MAYOR KREGER: I CAN'T LET -- THIS SOLE SOURCE ISSUE. I AM STILL CONFUSED. OUR POLICY SAYS THERE'S SUPPOSED TO BE A SOLE SOURCE FORM THAT GOES ALONG WITH THESE JUSTIFYING IT. AND WE SEEM TO HAVE GONE AWAY FROM THAT. BUT I DON'T -- I'M NOT AWARE OF THE POLICY BEING CHANGED. I THINK THAT SOLE SOURCE FORM IS CRITICAL IN ANSWERING QUESTIONS. AND THIS KEEPS COMING UP. WHAT IS A SOLE SOURCE AND WHAT IS THE JUSTIFICATION? SO, I THINK IT'S IMPERATIVE THAT WE HAVE THAT ATTACHED WHEN THERE'S A SOLE SOURCE. THAT'S WHAT THE POLICY SAYS.

>> MAYOR MILLER: COMMISSIONER ROSS? >> COMMISSIONER ROSS: I BELIEVE THE JUSTIFICATION OF THE SOLE SOURCE IN THIS REQUEST IS NEARLY THE ONLY PEOPLE THAT MAKES THE

SOFTWARE THAT DOES THIS. THERE'S NOBODY ELSE. >> VICE MAYOR KREGER: THAT'S

FINE. THEN HAVE IT ON THE FORM AND FOLLOW OUR POLICY. >> COMMISSIONER ROSS: ARE YOU

TALKING TO ME OR THE CITY MANAGER? >> VICE MAYOR KREGER: I'M NOT TALKING TO YOU POLICIES AND ORDINANCES AND DO WHAT WE WANT TO DO. SO IT'S VERY SPECIFIC. THAT PERSON COMES UP, IT'S SOLE SOURCE WHEN YOU CAN ONLY BUY FROM SOMEBODY THAT'S THE ONLY PEOPLE. AND I WANT TO BE CAREFUL THAT WE DON'T MAKE IT SOLE SOURCE BECAUSE IT'S EASIER OR MORE CONVENIENT OR BEATING THE SYSTEM. I'VE ONLY BEEN TALKING ABOUT THIS FOR ABOUT TEN YEARS SO. I'D LIKE TO

SEE US MOVE IN THAT DIRECTION. >> MAYOR MILLER: THANK YOU, SIR. VICE MAYOR YOUR LIGHT'S ON.

THANK YOU. I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. IF WE COULD CALL THE VOTE.

>> COMMISSIONER CHAPMAN? YES. VICE MAYOR KREGER? YES. COMMISSIONER LEDNOVICH? YES,

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COMMISSIONER ROSS? YES. MAYOR MILLER? YES >> MAYOR MILLER: ITEM 7.4.

>> YOU HAVE A REQUEST FOR BUDGET AMENDMENT FOR ADDITIONAL STAFFING. THIS IS TO SORT THROUGH THE DOCUMENTS THAT HAVE BEEN ACCUMULATING IN OUR OFF-SITE STORAGE, PURGING AND SCANNING THE DOCUMENTS. SO THE RECOMMENDATION IS FOR BUDGET TRANSFER TO ALLOW FOR STAFFING

TO SORT THROUGH AND PREPARE THE DOCUMENTS FOR SCANNING. >> MAYOR MILLER: THANK YOU, SIR.

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>> COMMISSIONER: I RECOMMEND APPROVAL. >> COMMISSIONER: I'LL SECOND IT.

>> MAYOR MILLER: I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. PLEASE CALL THE VOTE.

>> VICE MAYOR? >> YES. COMMISSIONER ROSS? YES. COMMISSIONER CHAPMAN? YES.

COMMISSIONER LEDNOVICH IN YES. MAYOR MILLER? YES. >> MAYOR MILLER: 7.5 A CHANGE

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ORDER APPROVAL FOR THE MARINA UTILITIES INCORM CORPORATED. >> THIS IS THE RESULT OF AN INVITATION TO BID 17-26 REPAIRS TO THE FUEL LINE AND IMPROVEMENTS. IT WAS AWARDED TO MARINA UTILITIES IN RESOLUTION 2018-13 AND THAT WAS FOR THE SOUTHERN PORTION OF THE AMARINA.

THIS IS TO EXPAND THEIR CONTRACT TO THE NORTHERN TENUATOR FUELLING SYSTEM IN THE AMOUNT OF

$87,950. >> MAYOR MILLER: THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER ROSS?

>> COMMISSIONER: MOVE TO APPROVE. >> COMMISSIONER: SECOND.

>> MAYO >> MAYOR MILLER: I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. MADAM CLERK

PLEASE CALL THE VOTE. >> COMMISSIONER ROSS? YES. COMMISSIONER LEDNOVICH. YES.

COMMISSIONER CHAPMAN. YES. VICE MAYOR CROWING EHER. YES. MAYOR MILLER. YES.

>> THE 87,900 WAS THE ORIGINAL CONTRACT. THIS CHANGE ORDER IS ONLY FOR THE AMOUNT OF $12,500.

SORRY FOR THAT. >> MAYOR MILLER: 7.6, SOLE SOURCE VENDOR APPROVAL FOR

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MARINA UTILITIES INCORPORATED. >> THIS IS BUILDING UPON THE PREVIOUS PROPOSAL. NOW MARINA UTILITIES IS BEING ASKED -- THEY PROVIDED A PROPOSAL IN THE AMOUNT OF 200 ONLINE THOUSAND DOLLARS TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE INSTALLATION OF ALL THE UTI UTILITIES ON THE NORTHERN SYSTEM. SO THEY WILL PIGGYBACK ON TO THAT SYSTEM AS WELL. THEY WILL COORDINATE THE INSTALLATION OF THE WATER, THE FIRE SUPPRESSION, THE ELECTRICAL, AND FUEL. AND BY USING THE ONE FIRM

WE DON'T HAVE TO HAVE FOUR SEPARATE REQUESTS FOR APPROVAL. >> COMMISSIONER: MOVE TO

APPROVE. >> COMMISSIONER: SECOND. >> MAYOR MILLER: PLEASE CALL THE

VOTE. >> COMMISSIONER LEDNOVICH? YES. COMMISSIONER CHAPMAN? YES.

VICE MAYOR KREGER? YES. COMMISSIONER ROSS. MAYOR MILLER YES.

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>> MAYOR MILLER: AWARD A BID 19-27 BRANCE DIVERSIFIED INCORPORATED.

>> SPEAKER: THE CITY HAS PURCHASED THE ATTENUATOR DOCK SECTIONS FOR THE NORTH. NOW WENT OUT FOR BIDS FOR THE VENDORS TO INSTALL THOSE DECKS INCLUDING THE PILINGS. AND BRANCE DIVERSIFIED SUBMITTED THE LOWEST BID AND STAFF RECOMMENDS AWARDING THE CONTRACT TO BRANCE

DIVERSIFIED. >> MAYOR MILLER: THANK YOU SIR. COMMISSIONER ROSS YOU ARE

RECOGNIZED. >> COMMISSIONER ROSS: I AM GOING TO MOVE TO APPROVE THIS BUT BEFORE I DO I AM GOING TO MAKE THE FOLLOWING OBSERVATION. WE'VE JUST SPENT $871,450 ON THE MARINA AND WE STILL HAVE NO SPECIFIC PLAN LONG TERM FUNDING PLAN. AND I WOULD HOPE THAT DURING OUR BUSINESS SESSION THAT DURING THAT WHEN WE LOOK AT ALTERNATIVES THAT THE WATERFRONT WILL CONSIDER DECHLTH OF THE WATERFRONT AT THE BUSINESS SESSION TO KEEP IN MIND WE WILL NEED REVENUE SOURCES TO FUND ALL THIS. IF YOU LOOK AT THE BRANCE DIVERSIFIED MODEL WE'RE BASICALLY TO PAY OFF THIS OVER TEN YEARS WE HAVE TO PUT IN A MILLION DOLLARS A YEAR EXTRA FOR OVER 20 YEARS, $500,000. SO, WE'RE AT A DEFICIT OF AT LEAST $500,000 A YEAR. SAYING THAT, I

MOVE TO APPROVE. >> VICE MAYOR KREGER: I'LL SECOND IT. I WANT TO FOLLOW UP ON WHAT CHIP SAID. THIS WHOLE MARINA PROCESS HAS MORPHED INTO SIGNIFICANT, SIGNIFICANT EXPENDITURES. THE BRANCE CONTRACT FOR THE SOUTHERN BASIN IS WELL OVER 10% OF CONTINGENCIES. NOW WE'RE -- WE BOUGHT THE ATTENUATORS FOR THE NORTH SO WE'RE TALKING BRANCE FOR THE NORTH THEN MARINE ELECTRIC FOR THE NORTH. IT IS A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF MONEY.

THAT'S WHY I ASKED PAULINE WE NEED TO SEE WHAT'S HAPPENING WITH THE WHOLE THING. I KNOW DALE IS WORKING HARD WITH FEMA. I'M DISCOURAGED THAT ST. JOHN GOT THEIR MONEY FOR IRMA AND WE'RE STILL LOOKING AT MATTHEW. I ALSO NEED TO SAY THAT BRANCE, THERE WAS SIGNIFICANT, SIGNIFICANT PROBLEMS WITH BRANCE IN THE OTHER PART THAT HAVE BEEN RESOLVED THAT HAD TO DO WITH ENVIRONMENTAL ISSUES. AND WE GOT, YOU KNOW, I AM TOLD AND ASSURED THAT THIS IS A SOMEWHAT SIMPLER PROJECT IF THAT ACTUALLY EXISTS. THAT WE ARE CONFIDENT WE CAN MANAGE THIS. GOING BACK TO

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WHEN, YOU KNOW, THE LATEST PROJECT SCHEDULE I HAD FOR THE MARINA WAS IT WAS GOING TO BE DONE THE END OF DECEMBER. I WOULD HOPE THAT WE GET SCHEDULES AND REAL TIMELINES THAT WE CAN HOLD THESE GUYS TO SO WE CAN MOVE AND OPEN IT UP. OPEN UP THE MARINA.

>> MAYOR MILLER: THANK YOU, SIR. I HAVE REQUEST TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM. MR. LEN WILLIAMS.

>> PUBLIC SPEAKER: I AM LEN WILLIAMS. 987 EAGLE CREEK LANE FERNANDINA. BUT I SPEAK TONIGHT AS THE NASSAU COUNTY COMMISSIONER IN THE HAS PUT A MILLION, TWO MILLION DOLLARS INTO THE MARINA AND GRANT PROJECTS. THE INTEREST OR THE IDEA HERE IS THAT WE HAVE A WAVE ATTENUATOR ON THE NORTH END WHICH IS IN BAD SHAPE. NOT SUITABLE FOR MOORING BOATS BUT, ON THE OTHER HAND, IT IS IN GOOD ENOUGH SHAPE AS A WAVE ATTENUATOR AND PROTECTION AGAINST HURRICANES. IT IS AFTER ALL IN THREE YEARS PROTECTED THE NORTH BASIN SATISFACTORILY AS AN ATTENUATOR ALTHOUGH NOT AS A PLAY IS TO MOORE BOATS. IF WE WERE AT THE START TO PULL THE PILINGS AND TOW THE WAVE ATTENUATOR UP TO THE NORTH AND PUT IT IN FRONT OF THE D. D. BARTELL'S BOAT RAMP IT COULD SERVE AS A BREAK WATER WHICH IS CAPABLE OF DOING EVEN IN ITS STATE OF DISREPAIR WHICH WOULD BE A VERY NECESSARY, VERY HELPFUL, USEFUL AND SAFETY KIND OF THING FOR THE BARTELL BOAT RAMP WHICH IS NOW NOT USEFUL IN A HEAVILY WESTERLY BREEZE WAVES COME RIGHT INTO OR THE WAKE OF A SPORT FISHER GOING BY THAT GOES 400 OUT. ALL OF A SUDDEN YOU ARE LAUNCHING AND THE WAKE COMES AND JAM LIZ THE BOATS UP AND DOWN. ALL THAT COULD BE PREVENTED BY THE ADDITION OF THIS BROKEN DOWN WAVE ATT ATTENUATOR. I'M TOLD THE COST OF BREAKING IT LOOSE, TOWING IT UP THERE AND PLANTING THE PILINGS THERE IS SOMETHING ON THE ORDER OF 35 BUT LESS THAN $50,000. YOU DON'T EVER HAVE TO GET ELECTRICAL OUT THERE, WATER SERVICE. IT'S JUST A WAY OF PROTECTING THAT LAUNCH RAMP.

THAT WOULD BE A HELPFUL THING IN THE CITY AS THE AMOUNT OF TRAFFIC, THE AMOUNT OF BOATS THAT ARE NOW LAUNCHING UP THERE AND WANT TO LAUNCH HERE TO HAVE A BETTER, MORE USEFUL BOAT RAMP UP THERE WOULD RELIEVE PROBABLY SOME OF THE PRESSURE ON THIS BOAT RAMP DOWN HERE. SO, IT IS A USEFUL THING TO DO. THE GUYS AT BRANCE, THEY DON'T HAVE A CUSTOMER FOR THIS. THEY'VE BEEN TALKING WITH SOME PEOPLE BUT THERE'S NOTHING IN MIND. FIND HAS MONEY AND GRANTS FOR THIS KIND OF THING WHICH I CAN'T GUARANTEE ANYTHING WITH 12 COMMISSIONERS, I'M ONE VOTE, BUT I CAN TELL YOU FROM PAST EXPERIENCE TO PROMOTE SAFETY AND ACCESS TO THE WATERFRONT IS A PRIME PART OF WHAT FIND TRIES TO DO. SO, I HOPE YOU MIGHT CONSIDER DOING THIS. IT IS FIND MONEY ABOUT AND I'VE TALKED WITH THE COUNTY ABOUT IT. THEIR FIRST QUESTION IS WE'D LOVE TO DO THAT, WE KNOW WE GOT TO DO SOMETHING. THERE WILL NEVER BE A LESS EXPENSIVE WAY THAN USING THIS BROKEN DOWN PIECE AND PUT IT TO GOOD PURPOSE. THE MONEY, YES, IT WILL COST THEM SOME MONEY, BUT THERE IS FIND MONEY AROUND AND WE CAN APPLY THAT. SO, I'D HOPE THAT YOU MIGHT CONSIDER THIS AS A GOOD USE FOR THIS PIECE OF OTHERWISE SCRAP DOCK. THANKS.

>> MAYOR MILLER: COMMISSIONER ROSS? >> COMMISSIONER ROSS: THAT'S A WONDERFUL IDEA. BUT IF THE COUNTY WANTS TO COME AND GET IT, THEY CAN. I'M PERSONALLY NOT WILLING TO PUT ANYMORE MONEY INTO SOMETHING THAT'S GOING TO GO IN THE COUNTY. YOU AND I CAN DISAGREE BUT THE COUNTY -- I TALKED TO AARON BELL TODAY AND DANNY NEVER CALLED ME BACK. IF THE COUNTY IS INTERESTED IN COMING AND GETTING THIS DOCK, BRANCE DIVERSIFIED IS WILLING TO SELL, I THINK IT IS A GREAT IDEA. I DO NOT THINK THE CITY SHOULD BE PUTTING MORE MONEY INTO SOMETHING THAT IS GOING TO BE IN THE COUNTY'S USE. THAT'S WHAT I HAVE TO SAY.

>> MAYOR MILLER: VICE MAYOR KREGER? >> VICE MAYOR KREGER: I AGREE.

I THINK WE NEED TO FINISH OUR MARINA. IF THE COUNTY IS INTERESTED BRANCE CANS WORK WITH THE COUNTY. IF THEY WANT TO PUT IN WITH A FIND GRANT THAT'S FINE. I DON'T KNOW I AM SO

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EXCITED ABOUT THIS BECAUSE THERE'S ONLY SO MUCH FIND MONEY AVAILABLE AND I DON'T WANT THEM

TAKING THE MONEY THAT WE COULD USE FOR OUR OWN MARINA. >> MAYOR MILLER: OKAY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND I BELIEVE? CALL THE VOTE PLEASE.

>> COMMISSIONER CHAPMAN. YES. VICE MAYOR KREGER. YES. WHICH ITIONER LEDNOVICH. YES.

COMMISSIONER ROSS. YES. MAYOR MILLER. YES. >> MAYOR MILLER: 7.8 SECOND

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AMENDMENT AND ASSIGNMENT TO ASSUMPTION OF CONSENT TO LEASE AGREEMENT AMELIA RIVER

EXCURSIONS. >> THIS IS AN ASSIGNMENT OF A LEASE TO THE CURRENT LEASE HOLDER, AMELIA RIVER CRUISES, AND ANOTHER PARTY. SO IT'S GOING FROM ONE PARTY INTO THE NAME OF ONE PLUS ANOTHER FOR INVESTMENT PURPOSES AS I UNDERSTAND IT. THAT'S IT.

THERE ARE NO OTHER TERMS IN THE LEASE THAT WILL BE CHANGING. >> MAYOR MILLER: COMMISSIONER

ROSS? >> COMMISSIONER ROSS: MOVE TO APPROVE.

>> COMMISSIONER: SECOND. >> MAYOR MILLER: IF WE CAN CALL THE ROLE.

>> VICE MAYOR KREGER: I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THERE'S UNDERSTANDING THAT THE RIVER CRUISES UNDERSTAND THAT PARKING LOT A. IS GOING TO BE A PARK. YOU KNOW, THAT WE'RE PROCESSING

AN EMINENT DOMAIN TO MAKE THAT A PARK. >> DO YOU NEED A RESPONSE?

>> NO. I'M JUST MAKING THAT STATEMENT. SO, PEOPLE UNDERSTAND RIVER CRUISES, THAT THAT IS GOING TO BE A PARK. BASED ON OUR PLANNING AND OUR PARK FOOTPRINT.

>> MAYOR MILLER: CITY ATTORNEY? >> CITY ATTORNEY: SO THIS IS ONE OF THOSE, AS I'M SURE MANUFACTURE YOU UNDERSTAND HOW THESE THINGS WORK. THIS TRANSACTION IS NOT CLOSING EXCEPT FOR THIS COMMISSION'S ACTION TO ALLOW THE ASSIGNMENT. SO, SHOULD IT NOT CLOSE, IT IS IN THE CITY'S BEST INTEREST AS WELL AS MR. MCCARTHY AND AMELIA REQUIRE CRUISES TO NOT HAVE THIS ASSIGNMENT BE EFFECTIVE UNLESS THERE'S A CLOSING. AND WE'LL HAVE TO ATTACH SOME DOCUMENT TO THE RESOLUTION TO CLOSE THAT LOOP. SO, IN YOUR MOTION YOU WOULD SAY MOVE TO APPROVE CON

TIN GENT UPON THIS TRANSACTION CLOSING. >> YES. MAY I? TERESA PRINCE, THOMAS, EDDIE AND PRINCE 406 ASH STREET, FERNANDINA BEACH. COULDN'T COME TO A MEETING AND NOT SPEAK HERE TONIGHT TOO. TAMMI IS CORRECT. AND TO COMMISSIONER KREGER'S COMMENT, WE UNDERSTAND THAT THERE ARE CHANGES THAT COULD BE COMING. NO OFFENSE, THIS IS WHAT, PLAN NUMBER 6 FOR THE MARINA. SO, IF IT DOES MOVE FORWARD, THE LEASE HANDLES AND ADDRESSES ANYTHING THAT MIGHT AFFECT THE AMELIA RIVER CRUISES AND EXCURSIONS. BUT, YES, WE WOULD LIKE TO MAKE YOUR MOTION TO APPROVE. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. CONTINGENT UPON THE CLOSING AND WHATEVER I NEED TO GET YOU TAMMI JUST LET ME KNOW. BUT WE EXPECT TO CLOSE THE END OF FEBRUARY. SO WE SHOULD BE

ABLE TO JUST MOVE FORWARD. >> COMMISSIONER ROSS: I AM WILLING TO AMEND MY MOTION TO

MAKE IT CONTINGENT ON YOUR CLOSING. >> COMMISSIONER: AMEND THE

SECOND ALSO. >> MAYOR MILLER: THANK YOU VERY MUCH. MADAM CLERK PLEASE CALL

VOTE. >> VICE MAYOR KREGER? YES. COMMISSIONER ROSS. YES.

COMMISSIONER CHAPMAN. YES. COMMISSIONER LEDNOVICH. YES. MAYOR MANY MILLER. YES.

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>> MAYOR MILLER: 7.9 A MEMORANDUM OF UNDERSTANDING OF NORTH FLORIDA LAND TRUST.

>> CITY ATTORNEY: THIS IS JUST LIKE WHEN WE HAD THE THREE PARCELS THAT WERE BEING LOOKED AT, NEGOTIATED AND DUE DILIGENCE EXCEPT THIS IS MORE GENERAL GOING INTO THE FUTURE. AND I BELIEVE THE END OF THE TERM IS 2023. BECAUSE THAT'S THE END OF THE CAPITAL CAMPAIGN THAT THE

LAND TRUST IS WORKING ON. >> MAYOR MILLER: COMMISSIONER ROSS YOU ARE RECOGNIZED.

COMMISSIONER ROSS. MOVE TO APPROVE. >> COMMISSIONER: SECOND.

>> MAYOR MILLER: COMMISSIONER ROSS? >> COMMISSIONER ROSS: THANK YOU.

WOULD YOU LIKE TO SAY A FEW WORDS? >> SPEAKER: SURE. YEAH, JUST AS A GENERAL -- MARK HUDSON NORTH FLORIDA LAND TRUST 843 WEST MONROE JACKSONVILLE, FLORIDA.

YES THE MLU IS GOING FORWARD FOR POTENTIAL FUTURE PROPERTIES. WE ARE FUNDRAISING SO IN THAT CONTEXT OWNERS DO WANT TO KNOW THAT PARTNERSHIP IS GOING TO CONTINUE PAST THE ACQUISITIONS WE DID WITH THE CITY LAST YEAR. THANK YOU FOR ASSISTING US IN THAT AND CONTINUING THE MLU.

FURTH FURTHERMORE, THOUGH THE DETAILS KIND OF HAVE TO REMAIN

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CONFIDENTIAL UNTIL THE CONTRACT COMES UP TO THE COMMISSION, WE ARE APPRAISING MULTIPLE PROPERTIES RIGHT NOW ACTUALLY SINCE THE FIRST OF THE YEAR I THINK I'VE HAD ABOUT TEN DIFFERENT PROPERTY OWNERS APPROACH US TO DISCUSS DIFFERENT SALES FOR A WASH OF I MEAN PROPERTIES RIGHT NOW. THE HARD PART IS GOING THROUGH THEM. SO, HOPEFULLY WITHIN THE NEXT MONTH THERE WILL BE MORE PROPERTIES BEING PROPOSED TO THE COMMISSION.

>> COMMISSIONER ROSS: I HAVE ONE OTHER QUESTION. I WOULD LIKE YOU TO COMMENT ON THE FOLLOWING.

AS YOU KNOW, THE CITY HAS MADE A COMMITMENT TO DO A BOND REFERENCE UM DUMB. AND THERE ARE FIVE DAY WAYS. WE CAN JOIN THE COUNTY AND BASICALLY DO NOTHING AND RIDE THEIR COATTAILS. NUMBER 2 IS JOIN THE COUNTY WITH A PREDETERMINED PAYOUT AND SUPPORT FROM THE COUNTY THEY WOULD GIVE US X AMOUNT OF DOLLARS IF WE SUPPORT IT. NUMBER THREE IS OUR OWN EFFORT ON PRIMARY ELECTION DAY WHICH WOCOMPETE WITH THE SCHOOL BOARD BOND. NUMBER FOUR OUR OWN ELECTION DAY. AND, FIVE, WHICH IS ANOTHER IDEA IS OUR OWN EFFORT TO MAINTAIN THE CURRENT VOTER APPROVED DEBT WHICH IS .1.683 MILLS WHICH EXPIRES NEXT YEAR AND JUST CONTINUE THAT FOR THE NEXT, SAY, 5, 10, 20 YEARS WHICH WOULD RAISE APPROXIMATELY $400,000 A YEAR AND WOULD NOT RAISE TAXES AND WOULD GIVE US -- WOULD BE A STEADY FUNDING SOURCE OVER THIS TIME. AND I WAS WONDERING IF YOU COULD GIVE US ANY INSIGHT INTO WHAT YOUR THOUGHTS ARE ABOUT THOSE

OPTIONS? >> SPEAKER: I THINK IN A GENERAL WAY, YOU KNOW, WE'RE OBVIOUSLY IN FAVOR OF THE THING THAT RAISES THE MOST POTENTIAL CAPITAL TOWARDS CONSERVATION INITIATIVES. I DO THINK THAT IN THE CONTEXT THAT SOME FORM OF CONTINUATION OF THE MILLAGE RATE THAT HAD BEEN APPLIED TO THE FORMER EGANS CREEK GREENWAY PURCHASES IF THAT WAS GOING FORWARD IN AND THE COMMUNITY IS FORWARD OF THAT I THINK IT IS A SMART AND WISE EFFORT. SPEAKING TO THE PARTNERSHIP OF THE COUNTY OR, YOU KNOW, NONE COMPETITION FOR -- NON-COMPETITION 230R THE COUNTY. IN A GENERAL WAY I ENCOURAGE BOTH ENTITIES TO FIND SOME WAY TO JOIN THEIR EFFORTS.

I THINK THE COUNTY IN PARTICULAR IN ACQUIRING THINGS ON AMELIA ISLAND WITHIN THE CITY LIMITS, I THINK THERE'S GOOD OPPORTUNITIES FOR THEIR FUNDING BUT THEY'RE NOT GOING TO NECESSARILY PRIORITIZE THE SAME THINGS THAT THE CITY IS GOING TO. SO, WHETHER THAT MEANS THERES SOME KIND OF PARTNER AGREEMENT WITH THE COUNTY THAT SAYS, YOU KNOW, CAN WE HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF LEVITY OR LEVERAGE INTO THE APPLIED COUNTY FUNDING TOWARDS SWIGS WITH ACQUISITION WITH THE CITY OR MAYBE WE KEEP A LITTLE POT FOR OURSELVES THROUGH THE MILLAGE RATE I THINK IS WISE.

BECAUSE IF THERE ARE DIFFERENT SCALES OF INTEREST. I THINK THERE'S GOING TO BE DIFFERENT PRIORITIES. SO, I THINK -- I ENCOURAGE THE CONVERSATION. I TRUST WILLING TO FACILITY THE CONVERSATION TO WHATEVER EXTENT WE CAN. BUT I DO THINK THERE'S PROBABLY SOME WISDOM IN KEEPING

SOME LOCAL SOURCE FUNDING. >> MAYOR MILLER: VICE MAYOR KRIEGE, YOU ARE RECOGNIZED, SIR.

>> VICE MAYOR KREGER: AS YOU KNOW WE'RE REQUIRED TO HAVE MANAGEMENT PLANS FOR SIX MONTHS FOR PROPERTIES. WE PURCHASED THREE PROPERTIES. AND THERE WILL BE A REVIEW OF OUR LAND ACQUISITION THING. AND MARK HAS OFFERED TO MY UNDERSTANDING TO ASSIST US WITH THOSE MANAGEMENT PLANS. AND WE ACTUALLY HAVE OUR ARBORIST IS COMPETENT IN DOING THOSE. BUT WE NEED TO KEEP IN MIND THAT WE NEED TO DO THOSE. WE CAN'T WAIT UNTIL WE REVIEW THE PLAN. I'LL COMMENT TOO ON THE REFERENDUM. I STRONGLY BELIEVE THAT THE REFERENDUM I WOULD LIKE TO WORK WITH THE COUNTY AND FEEL IT'S IMPERATIVE BEYOND THE GENERAL ELECTION. WE KEEP TALKING ABOUT WHAT PEOPLE WANT. I WOULD LIKE TO SEE IT ON THE GENERAL ELECTION HOWEVER THAT IS WORKED OUT.

>> MAYOR MILLER: COMMISSIONER ROSS? >> COMMISSIONER ROSS: I DON'T

KNOW IF I DID BUT I MOVE TO APPROVE. >> COMMISSIONER: WE DID

THE VOTE PLEASE. >> COMMISSIONER ROSS? YES. COMMISSIONER LEDNOVICH? YES.

COMMISSIONER CHAPMAN? YES. VICE MAYOR. YES. MAYOR MILLER. YES.

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>> MAYOR MILLER: 8.1 THE FRANCHISE AGREEMENT WITH ROGUE ISLAND CAPITAL LLC.

>> CITY ATTORNEY: ORDINANCE 2020-02. AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF FERNANDINA BEACH

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AUTHORIZING THE TRANSFER OF THE NON-EXCLUSIVE FRANCHISE AGREEMENT WITH AMELIA ISLAND TRANSPORTATION AND TROLLEYS LLC AND GRANTING THE FRANCHISE TO ROQUE ISLAND CAPITAL LLC FOR THE OPERATION OF A TROLLEY SERVICE. PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY, AUTHORIZING EXECUTION AND

PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE. THIS IS FIRST READING. >> MAYOR MILLER: COMMISSIONER

ROSS? >> COMMISSIONER: TWO QUESTIONS. NUMBER 1, WE'RE JUST BASICALLY TRANSFERRING AGREEMENT THAT'S BEEN IN PLACE FOR A NUMBER OF YEARS IS THAT CORRECT?

>> CITY ATTORNEY: YES. >> COMMISSIONER ROSS: NUMBER 2, THIS IS MORE FOR THE CITY MANAGER. THE TROLLEY IS PARKED IN FRONT OF BRETT'S. IS THAT GOING TO CONTINUE WITH THE NEW

PARK PLAN? >> NO. >> COMMISSIONER ROSS: OKAY.

WITH THAT, I MOVE TO APPROVE. >> COMMISSIONER: SECOND. >> MAYOR MILLER: I HAVE A MOTION

AND A SECOND. >> COMMISSIONER LEDNOVICH? YES. COMMISSIONER CHAPMANMENT YES.

VICE MAYOR KREGER. YES. COMMISSIONER ROSS. YES. MAYOR MILLER. YES.

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>> MAYOR MILLER: 8.2 THIS IS LEGISLATIVE. FUTURE LAND USE MAP AMENDMENT. WE'RE GOING TO

FIX CONFLICTS. >> CITY ATTORNEY: 2020-03 ORDINANCE OF THE CITY COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF OWREN FERNANDINA BEACH AMENDING THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP FOR VARIOUS PROPERTIES THROUGHOUT THE CITY PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY AND EFFECTIVE DATE.

>> MAYOR MILLER: COMMISSIONER ROSS? >> COMMISSIONER ROSS: I'LL MOVE TO APPROVE AND THEN IF THERE'S A SECOND I'D LIKE TO MAKE SOME COMMENTS.

>> VICE MAYOR KREGER: I'LL SECOND. >> COMMISSIONER ROSS: SOMEBODY, I THINK IT WAS THE PLANNING STAFF OR PUD, THEY DID A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF WORK ON THIS. I MEAN, THERE ARE -- THIS AMOUNT -- I'LL POP IT OUT HERE. WELL HERE IT IS. TWICE THIS AMOUNT OF PAPER THAT WAS DISTRIBUTED. I'M GOING TO TELL YOU FOR THE COMMON PERSON THAT IS -- I'LL USE THE WORD INSCRUTABLE. YOU CANNOT FIGURE OUT WHAT THE DEAL IS HERE.

THERE ARE THREE PAGES THAT WAS IN THE PACKET. PAGE 567, 568 AND 423 THAT SORT OF MEMORIALIZE THIS. I THINK WE SHOULD APPROVE THIS BUT I WOULD ASK THE PERMISSION SO I DON'T HAVE TO SIT HERE TONIGHT WITH THE STAFF AND GO THROUGH A BUNCH OF QUESTIONS THAT I HAVE BECAUSE I COULDN'T UNDERSTAND WHAT'S IN THE PACKET, IF I COULD HAVE THE PERMISSION OF THE CITY MANAGER, BECAUSE I DON'T WANT TO HAVE ANY PROBLEMS WITH CHAPTER 10 OF THE CHARTER, IF I COULD HAVE PERMISSION TO MOAT WITH THE -- AND THE OTHER COMMISSIONERS COULD HAVE PERMISSION TO MEET WITH THE PLANNING STAFF BETWEEN NOW AND THE SECOND READING TO GO OVER SOME OF THE QUESTIONS I HAVE ABOUT THE SPECIFIC PROPERTIES. THERE'S LIKE 13 PROPERTY IS HAVE QUESTIONS ABOUT. BUT THE PACKET ITSELF IS VERY COMPLEX. IT'S VERY THOROUGH. BUT IT DOESN'T

SUMMARIZE WHAT WENT ON. THANK YOU. >> MAYOR MILLER: VICE MAYOR?

>> VICE MAYOR KREGER: I AGREE WITH CHIP. YOU KNOW, AS WE MOVE FORWARD WITH IT. I ALSO AGREE I WANT TO COMPLIMENT THE PLANNING STAFF. THIS WAS ONE OF THE GOALS WE HAD WAY BACK ON THE

WORK THEY DID AND THE PAB OF DOING A GOOD JOB. >> MAYOR MILLER: MS. GIBSON COULD YOU COME FORWARD AND GIVE US A BRIEF OVERVIEW WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT BEFORE THE SECOND

READING? JUST SO THE PUBLIC KNOWS WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT. >> SPEAKER: THIS EVENING YOU ARE CONSIDERING CHANGES AND KELLI GIBSON COMMUNITY CONSERVATION PLANNING DIRECTOR. THIS EVENING YOU ARE CONSIDERING CHANGES WHICH SERVE TO RECONCILE YOUR LAND USE MAP, YOUR FUTURE LAND USE MAP WITH YOUR ZONING MAP. YOU IF WILL RECALL IN FEBRUARY LAST YEAR YOU ADOPTED AND ORDINANCE 2019-05 WHICH PUT A HALT IN PLACE FOR CONSIDERATION OF ANY LAND USE OR ZONING CHANGES UNTIL WE WERE ABLE TO RECONCILE THESE MAPS. THE TWO ORDINANCES THAT YOU HAVE BEFORE YOU TODAY SERVE TO DO JUST THAT. THEY SERVE TO ALIGN THE MAPS SO THAT YOU DON'T HAVE ERRORS THAT ARE ASSOCIATED WITH LAND USE AND ZONING THAT DO NOT COMPLIMENT OR MATCH EACH OTHER. AND THE PLANNING BOARD DID TAKE AN ENORMOUS AMOUNT OF TIME CONTEMPLATING CHANGES, LOOKING APT CONTOUR LINES FOR PROPERTIES AS AN EXAMPLE ALONG CITRONA WHERE THE CONSERVATION LINE SHOULD REALLY EXIST, WHERE IT MADE THE MOST SENSE, AND THEY JUST WENT THROUGH A LOT OF COMPLEX DISCUSSION, MEETINGS. WE HAD A WORKSHOP IN AUGUST. SO, YU WILL NOTICE IN SOME OF THE MATERIALS THAT YOU HAVE BEFORE YOU MEETINGS WHICH TOOK PLACE IN AUGUST, SEPTEMBER, OCTOBER AND NOVEMBER OF LAST YEAR TO HELP ADDRESS THAT FIRST PHASE OF THE CONFLICTS. SO

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THANK YOU. >> MAYOR MILLER: THANK YOU VERY MUCH. COMMISSIONER ROSS?

>> COMMISSIONER ROSS: I ASSUME I HAVE PERMISSION TO MEET WITH THEM AND THE CITY MANAGER? SO,

I WILL JUST HOLD MY QUESTIONS UNTIL I MEET WITH THEM. >> MAYOR MILLER: OKAY. I HAVE A

MOTION AND A SECOND. IF WE CAN CALL THE VOTE PLEASE. >> COMMISSIONER CHAPMAN. YES.

VICE MAYOR. YES COMMISSIONER LEDNOVICH. ECONOMY. COMMISSIONER ROSS. YES. MAYOR

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MILLER. YES. >> MAYOR MILLER: 8.3. ZONING MAP AMENDMENT LAND USE MAP

CONFLICTS. >> CITY ATTORNEY: 2020-04 ON ORD OUNCE OF THE CITY OF FERNANDINA BEACH FLORIDA AMENDING THE CITY'S ZONING MAP FOR VARIOUS PROPERTIES THROUGHOUT THE CITY.

PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY AND PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE. THIS IS FIRST READING OF REZONING ORDINANCE AND IT IS GOING TO BE A QUASI JUDICIAL HEARING AND THAT MEANS THAT FIRST MRS. KELLI GIBSON WITH CITY STAFF IS GOING TO MAKE A BRIEF PRESENTATION, INTRODUCE EVIDENCE INTO THE RECORD. SOME OF THAT IS ALREADY HERE ATTACHED TO YOUR PACKET. THEN IF THERE ARE ANY -- I DON'T THINK THERE'S AN APPLICANT BECAUSE THE CITY'S THE APPLICANT IN THIS CASE, BUT IF THERE ARE ANY AFFECTED PARTIES HERE, WHICH MEANS THAT YOU ARE A RESIDENT OF THE CITY, IF YOU HAVE TESTIMONY AND EVIDENCE THAT YOU WISH TO PROVIDE, YOU WILL TAKE AN OATH WHEN MRS. GIBSON DOES AND YOU WILL COME UP TO THE PODIUM AND YOU WILL BE TESTIFYING UNDER OATH AND PROVIDING YOUR TESTIMONY AND EVIDENCE, COMPETENT SUBSTANTIAL EVIDENCE ONLY PLEASE TO THE CITY COMMISSION FOR THEIR DECISION. IF THERE IS AN APPEAL AFTER THE CITY COMMISSION MAKES A DECISION WHICH THEY ACTUALLY TAKE A VOTE AT SECOND READING OF THIS ORDINANCE WITHIN 30 DAYS OF THAT DECISION THEN YOU MAY APPLY TO THE CIRCUIT COURT AND APPEAL THAT DECISION BASED UPON THE QUASI JUDICIAL HEARING. ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS? OKAY.

MRS. GIBSON IS FIRST. AND YOU MAKE A PRESENTATION. WHATEVER THAT IS IN YOUR DOCUMENTS. YOU NEED TO DO THE OATH. I CAN DO AN OATH IF YOU ARE NOT COMFORTABLE OR DON'T HAVE THE PAPER IN FRONT OF YOU. RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND MRS. GIBSON. WE ARE CONDUCTING -- IT'S OKAY.

WE'RE CONDUCTING A QUASI JUDICIAL HEARING. DO YOU SWEAR TO TELL THE TRUTH, THE WHOLE

TRUTH AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH? >> SPEAKER: YES. >> CITY ATTORNEY: IS THERE ANYBODY ELSE THAT WILL BE AN AFFECTED PARTY HERE THAT WISHES TO SPEAK? THIS IS THE REZONING.

OKAY NOBODY ELSE. >> SPEAKER: GOOD EVENING KELLI GIBSON CONSERVATION PLANNING DIRECTOR. THIS EVENING I WILL RELY ON THE WRITTEN RECORD PROVIDED TO YOU AS PART OF THE AGENDA PACKET THIS EVENING AS WELL AS ALL THE RECORDS PROVIDED TO THE PLANNING ADVISORY BOARD INCLUDING PRESENTATIONS, MEETING MINUTES AND ANY OTHER ITEMS THAT WERE PRESENTED TO THAT BODY.

>> MAYOR MILLER: COMMISSIONER ROSS? >> COMMISSIONER ROSS: I WAS JUST GOING TO MOVE TO APPROVE. I DON'T HAVE ANY QUESTIONS. I WOULD JUST HOPE THE SAME PROVISO

TO MEET WITH THEM. >> CITY ATTORNEY: THERE'S NO VOTE FOR MOTION AT -- THIS IS THE ATTORNEY TO HAVE A HEARING. CITY STAFF PRESENTED EVIDENCE AND NAMED A BUNCH OF DOCUMENTS.

MANY OF WHICH ARE ATTACHED HERE AND SOME GO WITH THE RECORD FOR THE PLANNING BOARD MEETING. DID YOU SAY -- WAS THERE JUST ONE PLANNING BOARD MEETING? I DO HAVE THIS QUESTION SO WE CAN GET

THE DATE RIGHT. >> SPEAKER: THE MEETINGS WERE CONDUCTED. A PUBLIC WORKSHOP HELD IN DECEMBER 2019 THEN FORMAL HEARINGS IN OCTOBER, NOVEMBER AND DECEMBER OF 2019.

>> CITY ATTORNEY: THANK YOU. >> MAYOR MILLER: JUST FOR HOUSEKEEPING PURPOSES, COMMISSIONER ROSS IF YOU CAN WITHDRAW THAT MOTION. THANK YOU SIR. ALL RIGHT. ON TO ITEMS 9.

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THIS IS OUR CITY COMMISSION DISCUSSION ITEMS. 9.1 IS LAND CONSERVATION. THIS ITEM IS PLACED ON THE AGENDA AT THE REQUEST OF COMMISSIONER LEDNOVICH.

>> COMMISSIONER LEDNOVICH: THANK YOU. WE TALKED ABOUT THE TREE ORDINANCE AND INCREASING PENALTIES FOR THE UNAUTHORIZED REMOVAL OF TREES. TOMORROW AT 5:00 THE SUB-COMMITTEE OF THE PLANNING ADVISORY BOARD WILL BE MEETING IN THIS ROOM TO DISCUSS POSSIBLE PLANS FOR INCREASING THE PENALTIES FOR THE UNAUTHORIZED REMOVAL OF TREES. SO, IF YOU ARE INTERESTED IN THAT SUBJECT, I URGE YOU TO ATTEND. AND THEY WILL WELCOME YOUR IDEAS. THANK YOU.

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>> MAYOR MILLER: MR. MARTIN? >> THE COMMUNITY WITH REGARD TO THE IMMUNITY BLUFF TREE MITIGATION PLAN AS I MADE KNOWN I HAVE SOLICITED THROUGH THE PLANNING AND CONSERVATION DEPARTMENT THE OPINION OF TWO THIRD PARTY ARBORIST TO REVIEW THE PLAN. I HAVE RECEIVED COPIES OF THEIR COMMENTS WHICH I WILL SHARE WITH YOU AND OTHERS. THE COMMENTS FOR THE MOST PART INDICATE THAT THE PROPOSED PLAN IS IN COMPLIANCE WERE OUR ORDINANCE. BUT ONE OF THE REVIEWERS INDICATES THAT IT MAY MEET THE LETTER OF OUR ORDINANCE BUT HE BELIEVES STRONGLY THAT WE DO A BETTER JOB WITH THE NUMBER AND THE TYPE OF TREES THAT ARE PROPOSED. SO, I'VE HAD MS. GIBSON REACH OUT TO THE DEVELOPER TO HAVE A DISCUSSION AS TO HOW WE CAN IMPROVE HIS MITIGATION PLAN. AND THAT MAY INVOLVE THE PLANTING OF LESS TREES BUT HIGHER QUALITY TREES.

BUT BECAUSE OF THE WAY OUR ORDINANCE IS DRAFTED A REDUCTION IN THE NUMBER OF TREES WOULD ALSO HAVE THE ADDITIONAL IMPACT OF AN INCREASE IN THE FINANCIAL PENALTIES. SO, MS. GIBSON AT MY DIRECTION IS TRYING TO COORDINATE A MEETING WITH THE DEVELOPER. SO, I WILL -- I'M NOT SURE WHAT THE PROPER TERM IS BUT I AM REQUESTING A 30 DAY EXTENSION INTO MY RENDERING OF AN OPINION OF THE AMELIA BLUFF TREE PLAN. I'LL REPORT BACK TO YOU BY END OF FEBRUARY WHAT THOSE DISCUSSIONS ARE WITH THE DEVELOPER. BUT I'LL SHARE THE COMMENTS FROM THE ARBORISTS WITH YOU. I LOOK FORWARD TO YOUR COMMENTS ABOUT THOSE AS WELL SO I CAN INCORPORATE THOSE INTO THE

DISCUSSIONS WITH THE DEVELOPER. >> MAYOR MILLER: THANK YOU, SIR. >> CITY ATTORNEY: AND THE MANAGER IS SAYING REQUESTING BECAUSE THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE SAYS THAT THE CITY MANAGER PROBABLY SAYS SHALL ISSUE AN OPINION ON THE PLAN WITHIN 30 DAYS. SO, WITHOUT YOUR OBJECTION, HE'LL EXTEND THAT FOR

>> MAYOR MILLER: THANK YOU, SIR. ITEM 9.2 WATERFRONT DEVELOPMENT. THIS WAS PLACED ON THE REQUEST

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OF COMMISSIONER LEDNOVICH. >> COMMISSIONER LEDNOVICH: I HAVE ONE ITEM. THE CITY

>> COMMISSIONER: ENVISIONING WORKSHOP IS A WEEK FROM TODAY BEGINNING AT 8:00 A.M. AT THE GOLF COURSE. AND ON THAT AGENDA IS ITEM 6 WATERFRONT PRESENTATION WHICH IS THE PROPOSED DESIGN BY MARQUEE MARQUEZ LATTIMER. SO, IF YOU ARE INTERESTED IN SEEING THE PROPOSAL, IT WILL FOLLOW THE 2019 REVIEW. CITY MANAGER, HOW LONG ARE WE GOING TO SPEND ON

REVIEWING 2019? >> CITY MANAGER: THE PLAN IS ONE HOUR. 8-9 THEN 9-KNOWN TALKING

ABOUT -- 9-NOON TALKING ABOUT THE WATERFRONT PARK. >> COMMISSIONER LEDNOVICH: SO

FIGURE 9:00 A.M. THE WATERFRONT DESIGN WILL BE UNVEILED. >> MAYOR MILLER: THAT'S

8:00 A.M.? >> COMMISSIONER: WOULD YOU LIKE A WAKE-UP CALL?

9.3 BEACHES. >> COMMISSIONER ROSS: I HAVE THREE ISSUES. THE FIRST IS THERE'S A FIND GRANT COMING UP IN MARCH. THAT MONEY THAT MR. KREGER WAS REFERRING TO THAT MR. WILLIAMS IS GOING TO WORK WITH US TO GET. BUT WE NEED TO PUT IT AN APPLICATION. SO, I DON'T BELIEVE ANYBODY'S WORKING ON THAT. SO, I WOULD ASK FOR THE CITY COMMISSION TO DIRECT

THE CITY MANAGER TO PURSUE THAT FIND GRANT FOR $200,000. >> I BELIEVE MS. JACOBS IS

WORKING ON THE PROPOSAL. >> COMMISSIONER ROSS: PERFECT. THAT'S NUMBER ONE. NUMBER 2, HURRICANE SEASON IS COMING. AND THE NORTHERN ATTENUATORS, I JUST WANT TO GIVE A LITTLE DEMONSTRATION. THE TWO NORTHERN DOCKS ARE MADE OF BLOCKS. THOSE BLOCKS ARE HELD TOGETHER BY WOOD THAT GOES ACROSS THERE THEN THERE'S BARS THAT GO THROUGH. THERE'S TEN BARS IN EACH ONE OF THESE. THAT'S WHAT HOLDS THOSE DOCKS TOGETHER. WHEN THOSE BARS BREAK APART, THEY'RE CALLED RODS AND WAILERS. THE WOOD STARTS TO SLIP THESE THINGS START GOING LIKE THIS AND THEN IT BREAKS UP.

AND IT'S CALLED CAT APILLING. SO THE BELLINGHAM DOCKS AND THE RODS HAVE NOT BEEN REPLACED SINCE INCEPTION. IF WE REPAIR THOSE RODS AND GET THAT DONE, THEN THAT DOCK SHOULD LAST ANOTHER 30 YEARS. IF WE DON'T AND THOSE RODS ARE NOT REPLACED AND MANY OF THEM ARE RUSTED,

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WE'RE GOING TO END UP HAVING TO REPLACE DOCKS TWO AND THREE. SO, I WOULD ASK THAT THE CITY MANAGER THAT WE ASK THE CITY MANAGER TO DIRECT MARINE TECH N WEST REC WHO IS SUPPOSED TO BE THE MAINTENANCE TO COME UP WITH A PLAN IN THE NEXT -- BY THE NEXT MEETING OF HOW THEY'RE GOING TO DO THAT MAINTENANCE. BECAUSE IF THAT ISN'T DONE BEFORE STORM SEASON WE HAVE A

VERY GOOD CHANCE OF LOSING THOSE DOCKS. >> MAYOR MILLER: WHERE DID THAT DATA COME FROM? ALL OF IT. COMMISSION ROSS: I TALKED TO BELLINGHAM MARINA. I WALKED TO THE DOCK WITH TWO OR THREE ENGINEERS AND I TALKED TO MR. MCCARTHY WHO IS RIGHT HERE

>> ABSOLUTELY. >> MAYOR MILLER: THAT'S ALL I NEED TO HEAR RIGHT THERE. THANK

YOU. >> COMMISSIONER ROSS: I HAVE ONE MORE. THE LAST ONE IS THERE SEEMS TO BE A GROUP OF PEOPLE OUT THERE WHO BELIEVE THAT THE CITY IS GOING TO HAVE THIS WATERFRONT PARK AND THEN DO SOMETHING WITH IT TO SELL IT OFF OR WHATNOT.

AND AN IDEA, AND I'M NOT SAYING IT IS A GOOD IDEA, BUT IT'S AN IDEA, IS INSTEAD OF HAVING THAT ZONED WATERFRONT INDUSTRIAL, CHANGE THE ZONING TO RECREATION. MAKING SURE IT CAN ACCOMMODATE ALL THE THINGS THAT WE DO. AND THAT WAY IF WE'RE EVER TO SELL IT, IT HAS TO GO TO VOTER REFERENDUM. AND THAT SHOULD DISSWAGE A LOT OF FEARS AS TO WHETHER WE'RE EVER GOING TO SELL THAT OR NOT. AND THAT WAS JUST AN IDEA. MAYBE WE CAN TALK ABOUT IT AT THE VISIONING

SESSION. >> MAYOR MILLER: THANK YOU, SIR. >> COMMISSIONER ROSS: DID I GET MY AGREEMENT THAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE THE CITY MANAGER TALK TO WEST REC?

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>> YES. >> MAYOR MILLER: 9.3. BEACHES, THIS WAS PLACED ON THE AGENDA BY

VICE MAYOR KREGER. YOU HAVE THE FLOOR, SIR. >> VICE MAYOR KREGER: I'VE GOT A FEW THINGS ABOUT BEACHES. FIRST THING, DALE, WOULD YOU PUT UP PAGE 1 OF THE SENATE REQUEST FOR F FUNDING. PAGE 1 OF THE FLORIDA SENATE LOCAL FUNDING INITIATIVE.

I BROUGHT THIS UP BECAUSE WE JUST APPROVED FOUR WALKOVERS AND WE APPROVED THEM DURING A TIMEFRAME WHERE WE LOST 50% OF THE CONSTRUCTION TIME FOR THOSE WALKOVERS. AND THAT HAPPENED BECAUSE THERE WAS SOME CHANGES AND PEOPLE HAD DIFFERENT IDEA WHAT'S WAS GOING ON. THAT WAS A STATE -- THREE WERE STATE 50% GRANT AND ONE WAS 100% GRANT. WE'RE MOVING ON FINE. HOPEFULLY WE CAN GET THOSE, YOU KNOW, STARTED, CONTRACTED AND PARTIALLY BUILT AND THEIR SAND FENCES AND SEA OATS. THE FIVE SOUTH IS VERY IMPORTANT BECAUSE WE'RE ALREADY GETTING PENALIZED FOR IT BECAUSE WE HAD PUT ON SCHEDULE WE GOT TO EXTEND IT TO THE 15TH OF APRIL. THAT'S 100% PAVED. SO, RIGHT NOW WE HAVE A HOUSE BILL 2829 IN THE LEGISLATURE REQUESTING $500,000 FOR BEACH WALKOVERS. IT'S THE NEXT ONE AFTER THAT. THAT'S THE HOUSE BILL. THIS ONE HERE. NOW I THOUGHT THIS WAS A TIME BECAUSE WE APPROVED THIS LEGISLATIVE REQUEST IN THIS COMMISSION. AND WE'RE ASKING $500,000 AND THERE'S SIX PAGES OF THIS JUSTIFYING WHAT WE'RE DOING. THIS ALONG WITH THIS YEAR'S WALKOVERS ARE ACTUALLY WALKOVERS REPLACING WALKTHROUGHS TO ELIMINATE GAPS IN THE DUNE. SO, IF YOU SCROLL DOWN TO THE LAST PAGE, DALE, THE CHART.

THERE'S A GRAPH THERE. THIS WAS IN THE AGENDA. SO, YOU CAN LOOK AT ALL THE JUSTIFICATION. THIS HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH SADLER SOUTH OF 21. SO, THESE WERE ALL THE 13 WALKTHROUGHS TO WALKOVERS. SO, I AM BRINGING THIS UP BECAUSE WE CAN'T CHANGE THE LEGISLATIVE REQUEST AND HOPEFULLY WE'LL GET IT. BUT WE CAN CHANGE THE PLANNING. IF WE WANT TO CHANGE THE PLANNING AND MAKE THESE WITHOUT STAIRS WE CAN DO THAT. BEFORE WE PUT SPECIFICS OUT. BUT REMEMBER WE HAVE TO BUILD WALKOVERS FROM 1 NOVEMBER TO THE 31ST OF OCTOBER. NOW SO THIS IS LIKE DO WE WANT TO DO SOMETHING DIFFERENT, WE SHOULD START PLANNING THAT NOW. BECAUSE THE ADDITIONAL MONEY IS

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GOING TO BE OUR MATCH. SO, IN ADDITION TO THE 50% MATCH OR THE $500,000 MATCH WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO MATCH WHATEVER ELSE WE WANT TO DO IF WE WANT TO HAVE ALL RAMPS. COULD YOU PUT UP --

COMMISSION >> COMMISSIONER:? CAN I ASK. MY MEMORY PROBABLY ISN'T AS GOOD AS YOURS. BUT I DON'T REMEMBER -- I'M CURIOUS HOW WAS THE PROCESS THAT THESE PARTICULAR NINE SITES

WERE PICKED? BECAUSE I DON'T EVER REMEMBER APPROVEING THAT. >> VICE MAYOR KREGER: THE

WALKTHROUGHS. >> COMMISSIONER ROSS: BUT HOW DID THAT GET INTO THIS --

>> VICE MAYOR KREGER: WE DISCUSSED THESE ARE REPLACING WALKTHROUGHS. THAT WAS THE WHOLE

DISCUSSION. WE ACTUALLY HAVE ANOTHER LEGISLATIVE REQUEST -- >> COMMISSIONER ROSS: LET'S JUST FOCUS ON THIS ONE. SO, DID WE DISCUSS THAT AT A COMMISSION MEETING?

>> VICE MAYOR KREGER: YEP IT WAS BROUGHT UP. DID WE GO THROUGH EACH NUMBER? NO.

>> COMMISSIONER ROSS: IF YOU COULD -- CITY MANAGER, IF YOU COULD PULL THAT FOR ME, THAT

DISCUSSION. I'LL ASSUME WHAT YOU ARE SAYING IS CORRECT. >> VICE MAYOR KREGER: WE

APPROVED IT BY A VOTE. >> COMMISSIONER ROSS: I DON'T REMEMBER THE PROCESS. I'LL GET

IT. >> VICE MAYOR KREGER: WILL YOU PULL UP 35S BEFORE WE DEMOLISHED IT? 35 SOUTH. ONE OF 13 WALKOVERS SOUTH OF SADLER. ONLY ONE OF THOSE GOES PAST THE FORD DUNE. SO, EACH ONE OF THOSE BASICALLY NOW HAS APPROXIMATELY 100 FEET THROUGH THE SAND GAPPED THROUGH THE DUNES. WOULD YOU PUT UP THE 35 NOW? THE PICTURE PLEASE. AT ONE POINT WE TRIED THERE WAS A DISCUSSION AND WE TRIED TO GET A DECISION ON HOW WE WANT TO GO. REALLY WHERE I AM GOING WITH THIS IS AS A COMMISSION WE NEED TO DECIDE, I RECOMMEND WE DECIDE, WHERE WE WANT TO HAVE ACTUAL WALKOVERS. THOSE ARE $400,000 TO A HALF MILLION DOLLARS WALKOVERS DOWN AT THAT END OF THE BEACH. SO, DO WE WANT TO HAVE 13 OF THEM OR DO WE WANT TO HAVE ONE EVERY HALF MILE OR WHATEVER? SO, THOSE ARE DISCUSSIONS I THINK WE NEED TO HAVE BEFORE WE GET TO

SPECIFICATION TIME. I'M JUST GOING TO SHOW NOW-- >> I'M NOT SURE IF I'VE GOT THE

SLIDE. >> VICE MAYOR KREGER: THAT'S ALL RIGHT. IT'S JUST A PATH.

THAT'S 27. THAT'S 35S. THAT'S 40. SO WE HAVE TO MAKE SOME DECISIONS ON THOSE. YOU KNOW, THE POINT WAS TO PROTECT THE FOUR DUNES AND NOBODY OF THEM PROTECT THE FOUR DUNES.

>> COMMISSIONER ROSS: I WOULD AGREE WITH YOU. WE NEED A DUNE MANAGEMENT PLAN. IT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE DONE IN 2013. AND THAT'S WHAT WE NEED. AND THAT'S WHAT YOU ARE SAYING BASICALLY.

>> VICE MAYOR KREGER: RIGHT. I AGREE. NEXT THING WE'VE GOT IS -- WOULD YOU PUT UP THE RE-NOURISHMENT PROJECT SCHEDULE. I JUST REALLY LIKE BEACHES YOU KNOW. AND ALSO YOU -- ALL RIGHT THERE'S A PROJECT SCHEDULE. AS OF THIS MORNING, THEY'RE UP TO -- UP TO RIGHT ABOUT HERE.

WHEN THEY GET TO NORTH BEACH PIPE THEY'RE GOING TO BURY THE PIPE. THEY'RE FOUR DAYS BEYOND.

BUT THE PLAN IS THEY'LL FINISH AS OF TODAY THEY'RE GOING TO FINISH ON THE 2ND OF FEBRUARY.

THEY'LL BE DONE WITH OUR BEACHES AND THEY WILL CLEAR THE BEACHES. AND WEATHER WILL DICTATE A LITTLE BIT OF THAT. THEY'LL BURY THE PIPE WHERE THEY HAVE ACCESS AND THEY'LL HAVE ACCESS IS WHERE THAT'S OUT OF THE WORK AREA. THEY MEET EVERY WEEK. I SENT YOU WHAT THE SCHEDULE LOOKS LIKE. THE REASON I SENT YOU THE FIVEPAGE WEEKLY SCHEDULE IS TO SHOW YOU HOW A PROJECT CAN BE MANAGED WITH PROPER PROJECT MANAGEMENT. THIS PROJECT IS NOT A WHOLE LOT MORE EXPENSIVE THAN OUR MARINA PROJECT. SO THAT'S JUST A POINT OF PRIDE FOR EFFECTIVE PROJECT MANAGEMENT. I

SENT SOME PICTURES OF THE NEW LIFEGUARD TOWERS. >> COMMISSIONER ROSS: WHY ARE

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THEY SUCKING IN ROCKS IF THEY'RE ONLY GOING IN A CHANNEL THAT'S BEEN DREDGED MULTIPLE TIMES?

>> VICE MAYOR KREGER: THAT'S WHAT'S DOWN THERE. SOME OF THAT WAS BLOWN UP. THE CHANNEL WAS BLOWN UP. THEY'RE ACTUALLY IN THE CHANNEL AND THOSE ROCKS AREN'T SUPPOSED TO -- AT SOME POINT THEY'LL ACTUALLY STOP PUMPING WHEN IT'S NOT STRATEGIC BEACH COMPATIBLE SAND. THAT'S JUST THE WAY IT IS OUT THERE. THEY ACTUALLY BLEW THAT CHANNEL OUT THERE. SO, THEY'RE DOING THE CHANNEL NOW. THE SECOND DREDGE WILL GET HERE AND WILL OPERATE. BUT THE SECOND DREDGE WILL NOT PUMP ON TO THE BEACH WHEN DROPPING OFFSHORE SITES. AS SOON AS THEY'RE DONE ON THE SECOND OF FEBRUARY THEY'LL PULL UP THE PIKE, THEY'LL TILL THE BEACH, YOU KNOW, WITH LIKE TILLING STUFF AND THEY'LL BE GONE. HOPEFULLY THEY'LL BE GONE. LIFEGUARD TOWERS ARE NEXT. WE'RE DONE WITH THAT ONE. THESE ARE LIFEGUARD TOWERS FOR MAIN BEACH AND SADLER THAT ARE PART OF THE DEPARTMENT OF LIFEGUARD OCEAN RESCUE GOT FREE AND ALL THEY HAD TO PAY WAS THE TRANSPORTATION TO HERE IF. THE PLAN IS TO PAY THEM UP AND MAYBE HAVE SOME CONTESTS AND, OF COURSE, THEY'LL BE ELEVATING THEM. LIKE IN THE MOVIES. I DON'T THINK WE NEED TO PUT THIS UP BUT HAVING THAT BEACH CONSERVATION PLAN RP NUMBERS WHERE WE SEE THE SELECTION WILL BE ON THE 13TH OF FEBRUARY. THIS IS AMELIA ISLAND BEACH CONSERVATION PLAN. AND THAT WILL LEAD TO THE INCIDENTAL DAY PERMIT. THE SELECTION WILL BE I THINK IT'S THE 26TH OF MARCH WHICH WILL BE THE JOINT JOINING COMMITTEE. I MET OVER THE WEEKEND WITH THE TWO HEAD OF IN PERIL SPECIES FROM THE TWO HEADS AT THE BIG TURTLE CONVENTION. OUR GOAL IS HOPEFULLY WE'LL GET

SIGNIFICANT GRANT MONEY FOR THAT. >> MAYOR MILLER: THANK YOU, SIR.

>> VICE MAYOR KREGER: THAT'S IT FOR THE BEACHES TODAY. >> MAYOR MILLER: WE'VE ALREADY CLEARED 9.4. 9.5 THIS IS PLAYGROUND ACCESSIBILITY PLACED ON THE AGENDA AT REQUEST OF

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COMMISSIONER ROSS. WE ARE AT THE 90 MINUTE MARK ARE YOU GUYS OKAY TO POWER THROUGH SNM DO YOU WANT A BREAK OR WANT TO FINISH? OKAY. COMMISSIONER ROSS YOU ARE RECOGNIZED.

>> COMMISSIONER ROSS: GREAT. THANK YOU. I WOULD LIKE TO THANK ALL THOSE WHO MADE POSSIBLE THE WHEELCHAIR EXPERIENCE THAT I AND COMMISSIONER LEDNOVICH HAD ON THE 11TH OF JANUARY. I THINK WHAT I LEARNED FROM THAT IS, NUMBER 1, THAT SOME OF OUR PARKS ARE ACCESSIBLE FOR KIDS IN WHEELCHAIRS BUT THEY ARE NOT ACCESSIBLE FOR ADULTS IN WHEELCHAIRS AND THE PLAYGROUND EQUIPMENT. I ALSO LEARNED THERE'S DIFFERENT LEVELS OF ADA ACCESSIBILITY. THERE'S ADA ACCESSIBLE. THERE'S ACCESSIBLE. THERE'S INCLUSIVE. AND MANY OF THESE DEFINITIONS ARE SORT OF, I'LL USE THE WORD SQUISHY, BECAUSE DIFFERENT PEOPLE GIVE DIFFERENT MEANINGS TO THEM. BUT I DID LOOK AT THE LITERATURE AND THE CANADIAN LITERATURE THEY TALK ABOUT UNIVERSAL ACCEPTABLE PLAYGROUNDS. AND THEY CAME UP WITH FOUR CRITERIA WHICH I THOUGHT WERE GOOD CRITERIA. THE FIRST IS THEY CONSIDER ACCESSIBILITY FOR CHILDREN AT A WIDE RANGE OF DEVELOPMENTAL STAGES AND ABILITIES. THE SECOND ONE IS TO APPEAL TO THE FIVE SENSES OF CHILDREN. THE THIRD IS TO CREATE SAFE SPACES WHERE CHILDREN CAN EXPLORE. THE FOURTH WHICH I FOUND WAS NOT -- AT LEAST FOR US WAS SUPPORT PARENTS WITH THE ELITE ABOUTS TO SUPERVISOR AND PARTICIPATE IN THEIR CHILD'S PLAY EXPERIENCE. SO, I WAS WONDERING IF WE COULD CONSIDER ASKING THE CITY MANAGER TO TASK THE PARK STAFF IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE PARKS AND ADVISORY COMMITTEE TO EVALUATE ALL OF OUR PLAYGROUNDS FOR ACCESSIBILITY AS DEFINED IN THOSE FOUR CRITERIA AND BY PREVIOUS STANDARDS AND DEVISE AN ACTION PLAN WITH A FUNDING SOURCE TO ACHIEVE THOSE ACCESSIBILITY STANDARDS IN ALL CITY PLAYGROUNDS OVER THE NEXT

FIVE YEARS. >> VICE MAYOR KREGER: I THINK THAT'S APPROPRIATE. I THINK, YOU KNOW, AND THEY SHOULD DO THAT. IT SHOULD BE PUT INTO, YOU KNOW -- I THINK IF YOU HAVE DONE THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN THIS YEAR YET. WILL YOU PUT SOME DATA IN. IT SHOULD BE IN THE FIVE YEAR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN AND PRIORITIZE. AND WE SHOULD DO EVERYTHING WE CAN FOR AMERICAN DISABILITIES FOR PARKS AND NOT FORGET OTHER PLACES TOO.

>> I HAVE JUST A LITTLE TINY PRESENTATION. DO YOU GUYS WASN'T TO SEE THAT?

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>> VICE MAYOR KREGER: SURE. YOU ARE HERE. >> SPEAKER: I KNOW. IT'S JUST A LITTLE BRIEF. I THINK -- MY UNDERSTANDING IS I WAS TASKED TO PROVIDE INFORMATION AND SOME COSTS OF WHAT IT WOULD TAKE TO BRING MORE INCLUSIVENESS INTO OUR EXISTING PLAYGROUNDS. I PUT THIS TOGETHER JUST TO GIVE YOU AN IDEA OF THE FUNDING THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT. SO, THIS IS MORE INCLUSIVE PLAY ENVIRONMENTS THAT WE'D LIKE TO SEE PARKS AND RECREATION DEPARTMENTS THEY PLAY AN INTI GRAT ROLE IN SOCIALIZATION. PARKS HELP UNITE PEOPLE. HOW CAN WE MAKE OUR PLAYGROUNDS MORE INCLUSIVE? SO, WE LOOKED AT SEVERAL OF OUR PARKS. THE PLAYGROUND AREAS. AND EXISTING PLAYGROUND IS IN FAIR CONDITION. THE OPTIONS TO MAKE THIS AREA MORE INCLUSIVE WOULD BE -- BECAUSE CURRENTLY THERE'S THE WOOD CHIPS WHICH WE'RE GOING TO CALL PIP FOR THIS EVENING OR ARTIFICIAL TURF WHICH WOULD BE AROUND $60,000. ENLARGE THE FOOT PREPPED OF THE PLAY GROUND TO INCLUDE MORE SENSORY COMPONENTS THAT COMMISSIONER ROSS WAS SPEAKING OF. AND THIS WOULD NOT BE A LARGE STRUCTURE OF ANY KIND. IT WOULD PROBABLY BE SEVERAL SMALL AREAS WHERE CERTAIN CHILDREN LIKE TO PLAY ALONE. THEY DON'T LIKE A LOT OF NOISE BUT THEY WOULD BE ABLE TO INTERACT -- BE PART OF THE INCLUSIVE PLAY AREA. AND THEN ATLANTIC PARK, THIS DOES NOT INCLUDE THE PIRATE PARK. IT WAS INSTALLED LAST YEAR OR REPLACED LAST YEAR AND INCLUDES SOME INCLUSIVE COMPONENTS AND INI THE PIP SURFACING. WHICH IS UNIVERSALLY ACCESSIBLE FINANCIAL OPTIONS TO MAKE THIS PLAY AREA MORE INCLUSIVE ARE TO EXPAND THE EXISTING FOOTPRINT TO INCLUDE ADDITIONAL STAND ALONE SENSORY AND INCLUSIVE COMPONENTS. AND THAT WOULD ALSO INCLUDE THE PIP. WE WANT TO KEEP THAT GOING. THE MLK PLAY STRUCTURE WAS ALSO REPLACED LAST YEAR. AND THE PIP WAS INSTALLED. THERE ARE SENSORY FEATURES THAT ARE PART OF A LARGE STRUCTURE BUT NOT STAND ALONE SEPARATE SMALL COMPONENTS FOR SENSORY PLAY.

THERE'S A MINIMAL AMOUNT OF SPACE FOR EXPANSION. THIS PARTICULAR PLAY AREA APPROXIMATELY WE COULD APPROXIMATELY ADD APPROXIMATELY TWO ADDITIONAL INCLUSIVE OR SENSORY COMPONENTS FOR APPROXIMATELY $45,000. SO, THREE EXISTING PLAYGROUNDS UPGRADE TO OFFER MORE SENSORY INCLUSIVE PLAY COMPONENTS IS APPROXIMATELY $245,000. THEN WE DO HAVE FUNDS BUDGETED THIS YEAR FOR CENTRAL PARK. AND WE DISCUSSED IN ONE MEETING RECENTLY THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO MAKE THAT AN INCLUSIVE PARK. SO, IF WE WOULD LIKE TO MAKE THAT AN ALL INCLUSIVE PARK WITH ALL THE COMPONENTS, AND THERE IS A SPECIFIC STANDARD THAT THESE PLAYGROUND COMPANIES KNOW WHAT HAS TO BE IN THERE TO MAKE IT INCLUSIVE, THAT'S GOING TO HAVE

A COST OF ABOUT $500,000. ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS? >> COMMISSIONER ROSS: NO. I THANK YOU FOR YOUR PRESENTATION. I APPRECIATE THAT. I WOULD JUST ASK THAT YOU MEET WITH THE PARKS AND REC ADVISORY COMMITTEE AND WORK TOGETHER WITH THEM AND WITH EIGHT SCAPES AND ANYBODY ELSE

WHO WANTS TO WORK WITH YOU TO COME UP WITH A PROGRAM. >> ABSOLUTELY. ALSO THE QUESTION ABOUT THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT FUND. WE DID SUBMIT THAT QUITE EARLY THIS YEAR. SO, THESE ARE NOT PART OF THAT AT THIS POINT. SO, WE'LL HAVE TO GO BACK IN AND ADD THOSE.

PAULINE IS GOING TO LOVE TO HEAR THAT. >> I'M SENDING YOU AN EMAIL RIGHT NOW HAVING MET WITH MR. ROSS AND SEEING HIM IN THAT WHEELCHAIR ALMOST DO A FACE PLANT AT MAIN

BEACH WHEN HE HIT THE WOOD >> CHAIRMAN:S WAS ENTERTAINING BUT ALSO ILLUMINATING TO HIS POINT OF IF YOU ARE A DISABLED ADULT TRYING TO SUPERVISE YOUR CHILD THERE'S NO WAY IN HECK YOU ARE GOING TO GET IN THE PARK. IN THOUGH PLAYGROUND. THE OTHER EQUALLY IMPORTANT LESSON THAT I LEARNED WAS THAT IT WASN'T ONLY THE MATERIAL ON THE GROUND IT WAS THE PLAYGROUND ELEMENTS THEMSELVES. AND SO YOU TAKE MAIN BEACH, WHAT WE WERE TOLD BY EIGHT FLAGS PLAYSCAPES IS THAT EVEN IF SOMEONE COULD GET TO THE PLAYGROUND THE TYPES OF EQUIPMENT ON THE PLAYGROUND WERE NOT THE TYPES OF EQUIPMENT SUITABLE FOR A HANDICAPPED PERSON. SO IT WAS NOT

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INCLUSIVE. AND THAT'S -- I'M NOT LAYING THAT AT ANYONE'S FEET. IT'S UP TO US TO MAKE THAT PARK INCLUSIVE. SO, I THINK THAT'S -- YOUR ANALYSIS IS WELL DONE AND US AS COMMISSIONERS NEED TO ENDORSE A PLAN TO MAKE THIS HAPPEN. AND WE HAVE VISIONING SO I THINK THAT WOULD

BE A GOOD FIRST STEP TO DO THAT. >> MAYOR MILLER: VICE MAYOR? >> VICE MAYOR KREGER: A WHILE BACK THERE WAS FURTHER DISCUSSION ON THE USE OF IMPACT FEES. I DON'T KNOW QUITE WHERE WE'RE AT ON THAT. BUT THIS IS A CASE, YOU KNOW, AS WE MOVE INTO THESE AREAS WE'RE TALKING SIGNIFICANT DOLLARS. IN MY MIND, YOU KNOW, WE CAN USE IMPACT FEES FOR STRUCTURE DUE TO GROWTH. EVEN THOUGH GROWTH AND MORE KIDS COME AND I THINK WE HAVE TO LOOK AT THAT AS WE MOVE FORWARD. IN THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN TOSS GO BACK OUT AND ASK FOR RESUBMISSIONS AND LOOK AT WHAT WE CAN USE WHETHER IT IS A FORMULA OR HOW MUCH WE CAN USE. BECAUSE WE

HAVE IMPACT FEES AVAILABLE. WE HAVE TO SPEND THEM. >> MAYOR MILLER: COMMISSIONER

CHAPMAN? >> COMMISSIONER CHAPMAN: I CERTAINLY SUPPORT ALL THAT WAS SAID. I THINK WE ALSO NEED TO LOOK AT THINGS LIKE BEACH ACCESS. THEY MAKE THOSE MATS WHERE PEOPLE IN WHEELCHAIRS CAN GET ON TO THE BEACH. I BELIEVE THEY'RE IN ONE LOCATION. I THINK WE NEED TO WORK TO EXPAND THOSE. THOSE ARE EXPENSIVE. AND THE ISSUE OF HANDICAPPED ACCESSIBILITY CAME ABOUT BECAUSE OF ONE ISSUE. I THINK WE REALLY NEED TO EXPAND THE IDEA OF HANDICAPPED ACCESSIBILITY TO THE ENTIRE CITY. IF YOU ARE SITTING IN A CHAIR, IT'S VERY DIFFICULT TO WHEEL UP AND DOWN CENTER STREET BECAUSE THEY'RE IN THE HISTORIC DISTRICT MANY OF THE STORES ARE NOT ACCESSIBLE. AND I THINK THOSE ARE ISSUES THAT WE HAVE TO WORK ON. I'VE SAID IT BEFORE, I WILL REPEAT IT, THAT AT SOME POINT THE GOAL OF THE CITY WAS TO BE THE MOST ADA COMPATIBLE IN THE STATE. I THINK WE STARTED GREAT GUNS BUT WE MAY HAVE HIT THE PAUSE BUTTON OR THE STALL BUTTON. I THINK WE NEED TO REALLY LOOK AT THE PARKS, LOOK AT THE BEACHES, AND LOOK AT ALL OF THE CITY INCLUDING THE DOWNTOWN. I AM VERY HAPPY TO SAY THAT THE CURB CUTTING COMPANY AND THE SIDEWALK COMPANIES DID A MUCH BETTER JOB FACING SOME OF THOSE DOWN RAMPS.

WE'VE ALL ACROSS THE SIDEWALK WHERE YOU SEE THOSE YELLOW BUMPY THINGS WELL IF YOU ARE IN A CHAIR AND I THINK COMMISSIONER ROSS FOUND THIS WITH THE WOOD CHIPS YOU HIT THOSE BUMPS YOU CAN FACE MRABT ON THE SIDEWALK. THOSE ARE THERE FOR ALERTING A BLIND PERSON THEY'VE COME TO AN INTERSECTION. SO, I THINK, YOU KNOW, WHILE IT IS HISTORIC, CROSSING THE BRICK CROSSWALKS DOWNTOWN IN A WHEELCHAIR ARE EXTREMELY DIFFICULT. SO, IF WE'RE GOING TO TAKE THIS CAUSE UP, AND I'M CERTAINLY THRILLED WE ARE, WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE INCLUDE ALL OF THE CITY

OF FERNANDINA. THANK YOU. >> MAYOR MILLER: THANK YOU. THAT'S AN INTERESTING POINT. I NEVER THOUGHT ABOUT THOSE CROSSWALKS BEING LIKE THAT. MAYBE JUST ONE OF THEM IS ACCESSIBLE. HOW WOULD YOU CROSS THE STREET FROM ONE SIDE TO THE OTHER IF YOU HAD TO USE THOSE?

>> COMMISSIONER CHAPMAN: THE SAFEST WAY IS TO HOPEFULLY YOU HAVE HELP BUT YOU DO IT BACKWARDS. YOU ROLL BACKWARDS. BECAUSE THE LITTLE WHEELS ARE THE ONES THAT GET STUCK. AND IF YOU REALLY WANT TO TRY AND EXPERIMENT, CROSS THE TRACKS AT CENTER STREET IN A CHAIR BY

YOURSELF. >> MAYOR MILLER: THANK YOU, SIR. OKAY. THAT'S GOOD FOR THAT.

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CITY MANAGER REPORTS? >> CITY MANAGER: FIRST I'D LIKE TO THANK ALL OF YOU FOR PARTICIPATING IN THE NORTHEAST FLORIDA LEAGUE OF CITIES MEETING LAST WEEK. WE DID RECEIVE AN EMAIL FROM MS. JACKSON WHO IS THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR. AND HER EMAIL SAID WE CANNOT THANK YOU ENOUGH FOR SUCH A WONDERFUL EVENING. YOU FAR EXCEEDED OUR EXPECTATIONS. CAFĂ© DID A GREAT

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JOB THE TOOED WAS THE BEST AND ALL THE STAFF FRIENDLY AND ACCOMMODATING. POSITIVE COMMENTS. TOO MANY TO COUNT. I LOVE FERNANDINA BEACH. THANKS AGAIN FOR HOSTING THE FABULOUS EVENT. SO, THANKS ESPECIALLY TO MS. NICOLE BE DNA R FOR DOING THE HEAVY LIFTING AND PARTICIPATING AS WELL. THANK YOU TO ALL THE BUSINESSES THAT DONATED. THERE WERE NICE PRIZES GIVEN TO OTHER LOCAL GOVERNMENT OFFICIALS. WE HAVE THE ANNUAL MARTIN LUTHER KING, JR. DAY PARADE YESTERDAY. I AM AWARE THERE'S A LOT OF COMMENTS THAT A LOT OF PEOPLE DIDN'T KNOW ABOUT IT. I WOULD ENCOURAGE THOSE PEOPLE TO PERHAPS GET OFF -- STOP GETTING THEIR NEWS FROM FACEBOOK AND UTILIZE TRADITIONAL NEWS SOURCES SUCH AS THE NEWS LEADER IN FERNANDINA OBSERVER BECAUSE THE PARADE WAS WELL PROMOTED IN BOTH OF THOSE PUBLICATIONS AS WELL AS IF YOU ARE GOING TO USE FACEBOOK SITES THE CITY'S FACEBOOK PAGE ALL ANNOUNCED THE MARTIN LUTHER KING, JR. PARADE. SO THE INFORMATION IS OUT THERE YOU JUST GOT TO LOOK FOR IT.

>> MAYOR MILLER: SO YOU ARE SAYING REAL NEWS. >> CITY MANAGER: I WILL BE OUT OF TOWN ON THURSDAY TO SUPPORT THE FLORIDA RESILIENCY ENERGY DISTRICT. THURSDAY EVENING IS A PUBLIC FORUM FOR TRAILS MEETING. IF YOU ARE FAMILIAR THE SIGNS HAVE BEEN POSTED ALONG THE PROPOSED TRAIL ROUTE FROM CITRONA ALONG HICKORY LEADING UP TO THE WATERFRONT. SO, PLEASE PARTICIPATE. I KNOW THAT MS. JACOBS HAS LED THAT EFFORT ALONG WITH MR. SPINO AND MR. PA COOLA FROM THE AMELIA ISLAND TRAILS CLUB. AS COMMISSIONER LEDNOVICH INDICATED, THE VISIONING SESSION IS SCHEDULED FOR TUESDAY JANUARY 28TH AT THE CITY GOLF COURSE. THE OPENING SESSION BEGINS AT 8:00. AND PLEASE ALSO MARK YOUR CALENDARS FOR FRIDAY, JANUARY 31ST FOR THE ANNUAL POLICE DEPARTMENT AWARDS. THAT'S ALL I HAVE PENDING ANY QUESTIONS FROM YOU.

>> MAYOR MILLER: COMMISSIONER ROSS >> COMMISSIONER ROSS: I'D LIKE TO READ AN EMAIL. I AM HEAR TODAY THE BEACH MAINTENANCE MAY CHANGE. I FEEL THAT WOULD BE A MISTAKE. THE PRESENT MAINTENANCE IS EXCELLENT I THINK JAY IS A WONDERFUL PERSON AND A REAL ASSET TO THE BEACH COMMUNITY. EVERYONE ON THE BEACH KNOWS WHO HE IS. A GREAT PERSON. PLEASE KEEP HIM ON OUR BEACH. THANK YOU. THE COUNTY PUT OUT A BID FOR BEACH CLEANING. THEY OPENED THE BIDS AND THE PEOPLE -- THE CREW WHO DOES OUR BEACH NOW CAME IN SECOND BUT IT IS RECOMMENDED BY THE COMMITTEE THAT THEY BE AWARDED THE CONTRACT AS OPPOSED TO THE LOW BIDDER. I WOULD ASK IF WE COULD GIVE THE CITY MANAGER DIRECTION TO TRY TO INFLUENCE THE -- AND THE COUNTY COMMISSIONERS HAVE TO VOTE ON THAT CONTRACT. SO, THEY'RE VOTING ON THE CONTRACT THAT'S GOING TO AFFECT OUR BEACH MANAGEMENT, OUR BEACH CLEANING.

SO, IF WE COULD ENCOURAGE THE CITY MANAGER TO LOBBY ON THE AFFECT OF OUR CURRENT BEACH

CLEANER I THINK THAT WOULD BE APPROPRIATE AND HELPFUL. >> MAYOR MILLER: VICE MAYOR?

>> VICE MAYOR KREGER: I AGREE. I BELIEVE AIR AMAYA WERE ON THE SELECTION COMMUNITY.

>> COMMISSIONER ROSS: THEY WERE. AND THEY ARE RECOMMENDING IT. BUT AGAIN IT TAKES THREE COUNTY

COMMISSIONERS. >> WHAT WAS THE VOTE COUNT? >> COMMISSIONER ROSS: THEY MADE THE RECOMMENDATION THEY HAVEN'T VOTED YET. SO WHAT I AM ASKING IS THAT DALE WORK WITH THE

COUNTY TO MAKE SURE DESIRE KNOWN. >> CITY MANAGER: I DID RECEIVE AN EMAIL FROM MR. LAMB WHO WAS HERE EARLIER BUT HE LEFT THAT INDICATES THAT HE IS ADVISING ME THAT ALL THREE DOCKS IN THE SOUTHERN BASIN ARE NOW AVAILABLE FOR VESSELS. IT IS MY RECOMMENDATION THAT THEY BE OPEN BEGINNING FRIDAY JANUARY 24TH. THERE ARE A FEW REMAINING MINOR PUNCHLESS ITEMS THAT THE CONTRACTOR IS WORKING ON. THESE ITEMS AND DOCK ADJUST AMS WILL BE ONGOING AND WILL HAVE NO AFFECT ON THE USE OF THE DOCKS. SO THE DOCKS ARE AVAILABLE.

I'LL WORK WITH WEST REC AND MAKE SURE WE START GETTING VESSELS IN AS EARLY AS FRIDAY THE 24TH.

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>> MAYOR MILLER: CITY ATTORNEY? >> CITY ATTORNEY: I HAVE NO REPORTS. THANK YOU.

>> COMMISSIONER ROSS: ROSS WHERE ARE WE WITH OPENING THE CHANNEL MOVING?

>> CITY ATTORNEY: I HAVE NOT RECEIVED A RESPONSE ON THE -- I DRAFTED A DRAFT IN OUR LOCAL AGREEMENT AND I HOPED TWICE AS TO WHEN WE MIGHT SEE IT AND I HAVEN'T RECEIVED A RESPONSE.

>> MAYOR MILLER: COMMISSIONER LEDNOVICH? >> COMMISSIONER LEDNOVICH: I

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HAVE ONE QUESTION ON OUR EMINENT DOMAIN CASE AND THE STATUS. >> CITY ATTORNEY: WHAT WE ARE DOING IS TRYING TO GET OUR WATERFRONT PLAN A LITTLE MORE SOLIDIFIED TO INCLUDE THAT PARCEL. BECAUSE IF WE DON'T, THEN THE ARGUMENT FOR CONDEMNATION EMINENT DOMAIN IS WE HAVE A PUBLIC PERSON. SEW SO WE WANT TO LOCK UP OUR PURPOSE FOR THE COURT SO WE DON'T GET DISMISSED. BECAUSE THAT WOULD BE NOT GOOD. SO, I WILL KEEP YOU UPDATED AT EVERY MEETING AS

TO WHERE WE ARE. >> MAYOR MILLER: DALE, YOU HAD SOMETHING?

>> CITY MANAGER: MR. JACOBS REQUESTED A PERIMETER SURVEY OF THE ENTIRE PROPOSED PARK AREA FROM THE NORTH SIDE OF 101 NORTH FRONT STREET ALL THE WAY TO THE SOUTHERN LIMITS OF PARKING LOT D. AND MR. MAN ISE HAS COMPLETED THAT SURVEY. I'VE FORWARDED IT TO MR. JACOBS. SO THAT WAS ONE THING THAT I THINK MS. BACH WAS TALKING ABOUT WAS HOW WE DEMONSTRATE THAT WILL BE A TRUE PUBLIC PARCEL. SO THAT INFORMATION HELPFUL THAT MR. JACOB WAS ASKING TO ARE THAT

DOCUMENT. >> WILL THE MARQUEZ LATTIMER PLAN BE INCLUDED.

>> CITY MANAGER: YES. THAT SHOWS THAT. >> MAYOR MILLER: VICE MAYOR?

>> VICE MAYOR KREGER: JUST THINKING IN COMMENTS TONIGHT. I MEAN, MOVING FORWARD THAT -- WE SHOULD REZONE THAT AND NAME THAT AS RECREATIONAL ELEMENT NOW. AND THAT WOULD SUPPORT OUR CASE.

ATTORNEY >> CITY ATTORNEY: IT IS A PROCESS BUT IT'S NO PROBLEM.

>> VICE MAYOR KREGER: YOU WANT TO BUILD A CASE THAT'S THE WAY TO DO IT.

>> CITY ATTORNEY: BUT WE STILL HAVE TO HAVE A PUBLIC PERSON ON PLAN.

>> VICE MAYOR KREGER: WE HAVE A PUBLIC PURPOSE. WE SET THE FOOTPRINT AND YOU ARE REFINEING THAT BY DESIGNATING IT RECREATION YOU ARE MAKING IT A STEP FURTHER THEN YOU CAN TAKE

THE DEBT OFF THE MARINA. WHICH WILL HELP THE MARINA IN THE END. >> MAYOR MILLER: ALL RIGHT.

CITY CLERK? >> NOTHING TO REPORT AT THIS TIME.

>> MAYOR MILLER: COMMISSIONER ROSS? >> COMMISSIONER ROSS: I WOULD

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JUST LIKE TO MAKE ONE COMMENT. BRONSON LAMB OUR PROJECT MANAGER SAVED THE CITY 28,000 BUCKS.

THE WAY HE DID THAT IS THERE WAS A COMMISSIONER KREGER ALLUDED TO THIS BEFORE THERE WAS AN ENVIRONMENTAL PROBLEM BUT IT WAS AT THE FINE SITE WITH THE PLACING OF THE SAND AND THEN THERE WAS A DISPUTE AND THE TAILOR ENGINEERING WANTING US TO PAY $48,000 MORE THAN WE THOUGHT WE SHOULD PLAY. AND BRONSON ARGUED OUR CASE BEFORE THE FINE COMMITTEE AND HE PREVAILED AND THE FINE KINDLY DECIDED TO NOT CHARGE US THE $48,000. I WOULD JUST LIKE TO GIVE A SHOUT OUT TO HIM FOR GOING DOWN TO ST. AUGUSTINE AND DOING THAT AND DOING IT WELL. ALSO, THE MLK PARADE I THINK WAS A SUCCESS. AND THAT WAS YESTERDAY. WAS THAT YESTERDAY? SEEMS LIKE A LONG TIME AGO. THAT'S ALL I HAVE

COMMISSIONER CHAPMAN? >> COMMISSIONER CHAPMAN: COMMISSIONER KREGER AND I HAD THE PLEASURE OF RIDING IN THE MLK PARADE. IT WAS INTO IS TO SEE CITIZENS COME OUT. LET'S HOPE THAT EACH YEAR THAT PARTICIPATION OF PEOPLE WATCHING THAT PARADE GROWS. IT WAS NICE BECAUSE WE WERE CLOSE ENOUGH TO THE HIGH SCHOOL BAND THAT WE GOT TO HEAR THEM QUITE OFTEN. CITY EMPLOYEES OFTEN GET CRITICIZED AND OFTEN WHEN THEY MAKE THE CITY OF FERNANDINA SHINE IT GOES UNNOTICED. WITH THE LEAGUE OF CITIES LAST FRIDAY NIGHT I WOULD LIKE TO SAY THAT THIS CITY SHINED. AND THERE WAS A SMALL GROUP OF PEOPLE THAT MADE THAT SHINING HAPPEN.

CONGRATULATIONS. THANK YOU TO DALE MARTIN, HIS ASSISTANT, NICOLE. I'D LIKE TO THANK TIM POINTER FOR THE WONDERFUL PRESENTATION HE MADE. AND I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO THANK ALL OF THE BUSINESSES THAT CONTRIBUTED TO THE PRIZES. WHEN YOU MEET A MAYOR WHO HAS BEEN MAYOR IN HIS CITY FOR 20 YEARS BECAUSE THE POPULATION IS 790 PEOPLE, TO HEAR HIM TALK ABOUT THE WONDERFUL VENUE AND THINGS. SO, MR. MARTIN AND YOUR STAFF, GREAT JOB. IT'S ALWAYS DIFFICULT TO ARREST A BAD GUY OR PUT A FIRE HARDEST THINGS TO DO IS TO HIT A BASEBALL. I WOULD LIKE TO CON

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GAT LATE OUR POLICE AND FIRE AND BOTH IN THE CITY AND THE COUNTY FOR GUNS AND HOSES. THAT PROGRAM RAISED JUST UNDER $4,000. IT IS WILL BE DISTRIBUTED TO THE DIFFERENT CHARITIES THAT THE FIRST RESPONDERS SUPPORT. I'D ALSO LIKE TO THANK OUR FIRE DEPARTMENT FOR THE OUTSTANDING JOB THEY DID DOWN AT THE FIRE IN OLD TOWN. HAD THEY NOT BEEN OUTSTANDING, THAT COULD HAVE BEEN A MAJOR DISASTER. AND I'D ALSO LIKE TO GIVE A THANK YOU TO I GUESS IT WOULD BE CLASSIFIED AS AN UNSUNG HERO. THAT WAS THE GUY FROM FPU WHO GOT IN THE BUCKET AND WENT UP INTO THE CLOUD OF SMOKE TO KILL THE POWER TO MAKE IT SAFE FOR OUR FIREFIGHTERS. PEOPLE SAY WELL THAT'S THEIR JOB. THAT'S WHAT THEY GET PAID FOR. BUT IF YOU SAW PICTURES OF THAT SMOKE AND TO THINK WITHOUT RESPIRATOR UP HE WENT TO SAVE -- TO KILL THAT POWER. I THINK DESERVES A SHOUT OUT OF THANKS. LAST THING, ON JANUARY 15TH OF THIS YEAR, I RELINQUISHED MY INFORMATION AS THE LIAISON TO THE PARK AND REC COMMISSION. THANK YOU

MR. MAYOR. >> MAYOR MILLER: THANK YOU SIR. COMMISSIONER LEDNOVICH?

>> COMMISSIONER LEDNOVICH: ONE OF THE PROBLEMS OF GOING THIRD IS THEY HIT ALL THE HIGH POINTS.

SO, YOU JUST SOUND LIKE YOU ARE JUST REPEATING EXACTLY WHAT THEY SAID. AND FOR THE SAKE OF TIME I WILL JUST MENTION QUICKLY I DIRECTED TRAFFIC FOR MLK AT SECOND AND CENTER. AND ONE OF THE ADVANTAGES OF DIRECTING TRAFFIC IS YOU GET THE BEST SEAT IN THE HOUSE. AND I APPLAUD ALL OF THOSE PEOPLE IN CONVERTIBLES. BECAUSE THOSE WHO WERE IN THE PARADE OR WATCHING THE PARADE, IT WAS COLD YESTERDAY. AND I APPLAUD EVERYONE FOR PARTICIPATING. GREAT EVENT. THE ONE PERSON WE FORGOT TO MENTION ON THE LEAGUE OF CITIES DINNER WAS OUR KEYNOTE SPEAKER WHO GAVE A WONDERFUL SPEECH. AND IT WAS SO FABULOUS HER THREE POINTS ABOUT DECISION MAKING THAT IF YOU WANT TO KNOW WHAT THEY ARE JUST GO TO MY FACEBOOK PAGE WHERE THERE IS REAL INFORMATION.

EIGHT FLAGS AND NAN FOR HAVING COMMISSIONER ROSS AND I OUT TO THE PLAYGROUNDS FOR THAT EXPERIENCE. BECAUSE IT IS TRUE. YOU CAN ONLY TRY TO UNDERSTAND BY WALKING IN ANOTHER'S SHOES.

AND, IN THIS CASE, IT WAS BEING IN THAT WHEELCHAIR. AND THAT WAS VERY, VERY ILLUMINATING. SO

THANK YOU. >> MAYOR MILLER: THANK YOU, SIR. VICE MAYOR KREGER?

>> VICE MAYOR KREGER: WHEN PHIL AND I WERE RIDING TOGETHER WE WEREN'T TALKING MUCH. WE CAME TO THE CORNER AND THERE WAS CHIP AND DALE AND JOHNNY. THEN I SAW MIKE DIRECTING TRAFFIC. I WAS REALLY GETTING CONCERNED YOU KNOW, WELL THERE WAS PLENTY OF NOTICE THAT IT WAYS COMING. SATURDAY AT 11:00 IS THE AMERICAN BEACH FOUNDING CELEBRATION AT AMERICAN BEACH CIVIC CENTER. ON MONDAY THE 3RD OF FEBRUARY, TELL ME HOW TO SAY THE WORD RIGHT, DALE.

29TH ANNIVERSARY OF THE DISASTER IN KINGSLAND. 29 PEOPLE WERE KILLED. WE GENUINELY TRY TO GET A FIRE ENGINE TO GO. THIS WAS WELL BEFORE THEY HAD EMERGENCY MANA MANA MANAGEMENT. AND THE FERNANDINA BEACH FIRE DEPARTMENT HEARD IT ON HAM RADIO AND ACTUALLY RESPONDED. WAS ONE OF THE FIRST RESPONDERS TO KINGSLAND ON THAT DAY. SO, THERE'S A LITTLE MUSEUM AND THE LOG FROM OUR FIRE DEPARTMENT IS THERE. ON THE THIRD FEBRUARY IN THE EVENING AT 1,800 HOURS, THAT'S LIKE 6:00, THE AFRICAN-AMERICAN READING OF AT THE LIBRARY. I READ LITTLE THINGS. DALE IS GOING TO READ A LONGER ONE MAYBE. THAT'S IT.

>> MAYOR MILLER: GREAT. >> 29 PEOPLE PERISHED, ACTUALLY 49 OR 48 YEARS AGO. IT WAS A

LOT FURTHER BACK THAN WE REALIZE. >> VIETNAM ERA.

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>> VICE MAYOR KREGER: THEY WERE MAKING STUFF FOR THE WARS. >> I HEARD IT.

>> MAYOR MILLER: CAPTAIN MCCARTHY WAS WORKING AT THE MILL AT THE TIME AND YOU COULD HEAR

IT. >> IT SHOOK. >> MAYOR MILLER: WE STUDIED IN THE MILITARY. ONE OF THE LARGEST NON-MILITARY EXPLOSIONS THAT HAPPENED ON U.S. SOIL IN HISTORY. I THINK ATLANTA FELT I THINK TREMORS AS FAR AS THERE. THAT'S AN AMAZING EVENT. ONE OF THE FIRST ONES I ATTENDED ABOUT SIX YEARS AGO. I DIDN'T KNOW WHAT IT WAS UNTIL I GOT THERE AND I WAS IN SHOCK. I THINK EVERYBODY NEEDS TO KNOW THAT STORY. SHOULD BE A MAJOR MOTION PICTURE. THANK YOU, SIR. YOU GUYS HAVE COMPLETELY COVERED EVERYTHING I HAD WRITTEN DOWN.

SO, I DO WANT TO SAY THAT WAS AN MOMENT. WHEN I SAW DALE OUTSIDE THE PALACE AND I WALKED OUTSIDE TO WATCH THE PARADE GO BY AND COULDN'T GET OFF WORK. I LOOK OUT AND THE GUY IN THE YELLOW VEST WHEN YOU COME AROUND THE CORNER, WE SHOULD HAVE NOTICED THAT PARADE BUT THE FESTIVITIES BUT ALSO THE MESSAGE THAT THAT DAY HOLDS FOR ALL OF US IS THINK IS SOMETHING ESPECIALLY IN THE TIMES WE'RE IN IT'S VERY IMPORTANT TO REFLECT ON THIS TIME OF YEAR AND PRETTY MUCH EVERY DAY. WITH THAT, WE

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