[Items 1 & 2] [00:00:03] THE MARINA ADVISORY BOARD BOARD MEETING FOR DECEMBER THE 23RD, 2019. WE'LL BEGIN WITH THE CALL TO ORDER AND ROLL CALL, PLEASE. >> ROLL CALL, WE HAVE LEASE-LEASEBACK, HERE. KEVIN MCCARTHY, HERE. ALLEN MILLS, JOE BLANCHARD, HERE. COMAN LANGSHAW, HERE. SCOTT STEWART, HERE. TERRY LACOSS ALSO CALLED AND LET US KNOW HE WAS NOT GOING TO BE HERE. >> PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE, PLEASE. >> I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. >> THANK YOU. HAS EVERYONE HAD A CHANCE TO REVIEW THE MINUTES FROM THE LAST [Item 3] MEETING? >> I'LL MAKE THE MOTION WE ACCEPT THE MINUTES. >> I SECOND. >> ALL IN FAVOR? >> AYE. >> MINUTES APPROVED. REQUEST FOR PUBLIC COMMENT THIS EVENING? WE'D LIKE TO TRY TO ADHERE TO OUR 3 MINUTE POLICY. I THINK EVERYONE WOULD LIKE TO GET ON WITH THE HOLIDAYS IF WE COULD. SO LET ME SEE HERE. OLD BUSINESS, THE BOAT RAMP AND [Item 5.1] DINGHY DOCK WERE OPENED A WEEK 1/2 AGO, CORRECT? AND THERE IS A LIMIT ON THE BOAT RAMP FOR TWO AXLES ONLY, AND I THINK THAT WAS JUST BECAUSE WE DECIDED THEY DIDN'T WANT TO HAVE VESSELS THAT WERE TOO HEAVY ON THAT RAMP, THAT TWO AXLE REQUIREMENT SHOULD BE MORE THAN ADEQUATE. >> I WOULD AGREE. >> AND I THINK AT THE MOMENT, THE LIMIT ON THE DINGHY DOCK IS A 10-FOOT VESSEL OR LESS. YOU'VE HAD SOME ACTIVITY WITH THAT, I THINK >> >> WE HAVE HAD SOME ACTIVITY. I AM HAPPY TO SAY THAT I WAS WRONG UP TO THIS POINT, WE REALLY HAVEN'T HAD THE PROBLEMS THAT I ANTICIPATED WE WERE HAVING. BOATERS HAVE BEEN COMING IN UNDERSTANDING WHAT'S GOING ON, WE EXPLAIN TO THE BOATER WITH THE THREE AXLES, THEY HAVE A TENDENCY TO GO AHEAD AND TAKE IT SOMEPLACE ELSE AND PUT IT IN. IT'S ALL WORKING WELL. >> ALL RIGHT. GOOD. WE HAVE THE VA VACANCIES ON THE BOARD. >> FIRST WE'D GO AHEAD AND HAVE THE MAB VACANCY FOR CATHY -- I'M [Item 5.2] SO SORRY, I APOLOGIZE. >> THAT'S FINE. AND WE HAVE TWO SUBMITTALS FOR TWO POSSIBLE CHOICES FOR THE BOARD. ONE OF THEM WILL BE THE RECORDING -- LET ME SEE IF I CAN UNDERSTAND THIS. >> FIRST THING WE'RE GOING TO DO AND GO AHEAD -- OF THE TWO APPLICATIONS THAT CAME IN, WE'RE GOING TO VET ONE OF THOSE TWO INDIVIDUALS TO FILL THE EMPTY CHAIR THAT'S THERE. ONCE THAT EMPTY CHAIR IS FILLED, THEN WE'LL MAKE A DECISION WHETHER WE'RE GOING TO FILL THE CHAIR AND VICE CHAIR AND RECORDING SECRETARY TONIGHT OR WAIT UNTIL THE JANUARY MEETING, WHEN WE HAVE THE NEW PERSONS VETTED AND ON THE BOARD ALSO. SO THAT'S JUST A CALL OF YOUR OWN. >> ALL RIGHT. I THINK PART OF MY QUESTION WAS, COLEMAN, ARE YOU -- TOTALLY AS A BOARD MEMBER? >> NO, JUST AS A RECORDING SECRETARY. >> SO WE WOULD HAVE TO HAVE AN EXTRA MEMBER ON THE BOARD AS A RECORDING SECRETARY. >> UP WITH OF THE PEOPLE THAT'S THERE WOULD -- >> WOULD JUST TAKE THAT, OKAY. >> IN THE INTERIM, I ACT AS THE RECORDING SECRETARY UNTIL IT'S ASSIGNED. >> THERE WE GO. >> IS IT APPROPRIATE FOR ME TO MAKE A MOTION AT THIS POINT, NOMINATING MICHAEL DORAN AS THE REPLACEMENT ON THE BOARD? >> WE CAN HAVE SOME DISCUSSION FOR THAT. >> I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE ACCEPT MICHAEL DORAN'S APPLICATION FOR MEMBERSHIP ON THE BOARD. >> YOU'LL NEED A SECOND. >> I'LL SECOND IT. >> OKAY. DISCUSSION? >> MICHAEL DORAN IS AN INTERESTING INDIVIDUAL IN THE SENSE THAT RETIRED NAVY, SPENT MOST OF HIS LIFE ON THE WATER, KNOWS THE WATER VERY WELL. BASICALLY THE ENGINEERING [00:05:03] REQUIREMENTS THAT WE HAVE AS FAR AS MAINTAINING THE MARINA AND EVERYTHING. HE HAS A BACKGROUND IN PUBLIC EDUCATION AND IN MARKETING. AND HE SPENT A LOT OF TIME IN WASHINGTON, D.C., SO HE KNOWS POLITICAL GROUND IN THAT NECK OF THE WOODS, WHICH MIGHT COME IN VERY HANDY FOR CHANNEL ISSUES. >> HE'S STILL EMPLOYED, I THINK -- >> ACCORDING TO THIS, GDIT? >> YEAH. >> OPERATIONS MANAGER. >> BUT HE LIVES IN FERNANDINA. >> CORRECT. HE IS A CITIZEN, SO HE WOULD BE A VOTING MEMBER. >> ALL RIGHT. ANY MORE DISCUSSION? THERE WAS A SECOND INDIVIDUAL, GERALD DECKER. DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY BACKGROUND ON MR. GERALD DECKER? >> ARE ANY OF THE CANDIDATES HERE? >> WE HAVE TWO CANDIDATES. >> NO, I MEAN, IN OUR PRESENCE. >> WE HAVE A MOTION ON THE FLOOR TO ACCEPT -- >> WE HAVE TO HEAR THIS OUT ON THAT. >> I GUESS MY ONLY THING IS WE'RE JUST GOING TO RELY ON -- SO NEITHER APPLICANT IS PRESENT? >> CORRECT. >> OKAY. THAT WOULD BE MY ONLY QUESTION, DID WE HAVE SOMEBODY PRESENT. >> AND YOU KNOW THIS GENTLEMAN PERSONALLY? >> VERY MUCH SO. AND HE WORKS WITH LOBBIES IN WASHINGTON, FOR MILITARY AFFAIRS. >> ALL RIGHT. >> I'LL SECOND THE MOTION. >> MADE, SECONDED, AND I GUESS CALL FOR THE VOTE. I GUESS INDIVIDUALLY, IF YOU DO. >> YES. SO WE'LL START AT THIS END. SCOTT STEWART, YES. COLEMAN LANGSHAW, YES. KEVIN MCCARTHY, YES. JOE BLANCHARD, YES. PAUL LORE, YES. >> ALL RIGHT. NOW, WITH THAT INFORMATION, I WILL SEND THE CITY CLERK A NOTICE THAT THAT WAS VETTED BY THIS BOARD. SHE'LL, IN TURN, PUT IT ON THE AGENDA FOR THE NEXT COMMISSION MEETING, WHERE THEY WOULD GIVE THE FINAL APPROVAL. WE VET THEM, NOMINATE THEM -- >> VERY GOOD. >> JUST AS A QUESTION FOR FUTURE REFERENCE, IF WE EVER HAD THIS MEETING -- IT WOULD BE NICE TO BE ABLE TO HAVE PEOPLE COME IN. I JUST -- >> THAT WAS THE REASON WHY THE EMAIL WENT OUT FRIDAY SAYING THESE ARE THE PEOPLE, HERE'S THE APPLICATIONS, THERE WAS A PHONE NUMBER ATTACHED TO IT SO WE COULD HAVE DONE ANYTHING, IT WOULD BE NICE TO HAVE THEM COME IN. >> WELL, I LIKE TO SEE A FACE, I LIKE TO HEAR PEOPLE GIVE ANSWERS. I'M JUST THROWING THAT OUT THERE AS A GENERAL THING. I MEAN, IT'S FINE, YOU KNOW, BUT IT'S NICE TO HAVE A FACE OR A COUPLE FACES FOR ME, ANYWAY. >> PROBABLY IN THE FUTURE, THAT WOULD BE THE BETTER IDEA, IS TO CALL THE APPLICANT TO COME IN, WE'VE READ THEIR APPLICATION SO WE ALREADY KNOW EVERYTHING THEY SUBMITTED, BUT THERE MIGHT THINGS THAT WEREN'T ON THAT M AAPPLICATION YOU MIGHT BE INTERESTED IN. >> YEAH, I LIKE TO HEAR WHAT PEOPLE THINK ABOUT THE MARINA, THE PROJECT, JUST SOME QUESTIONS WE LOVE TO HEAR, BUT ANYWAY, THAT'S JUST A MINOR POINT. >> SO WE STILL HAVE AN OPEN POSITION FOR RECORDING SECRETARY. WOULD WE PREFER TO WAIT UNTIL MR. -- >> WE HAVE THE VICE CHAIR POSITION AND 5.3, AND THE RECORDING SECRETARY 5.4. MY SUGGESTION WOULD BE IF YOU'RE GOING TO WAIT FOR 5.4, WAIT FOR 5.3 ALSO. WHO KNOWS, THIS AMERICAN MAY BE READY TO JUMP RIGHT IN. >> MY SUGGESTION IS IF THEY'RE NOT HERE -- [LAUGHTER] RECORDING SECRETARY ON TOP OF IT. >> OKAY. >> I THINK WE'LL TABLE THAT UNTIL THE NEXT MEETING AND DECIDE ON OUR RECORDING SECRETARY AND VICE CHAIR AT THE NEXT MEETING. SO I GUESS WE'VE WORKED OUR WAY DOWN TO 5.5. [Item 5.5] I DID ATTEND THE PORT AUTHORITY MEETING, FIRST MEETING IN DECEMBER. THERE WAS DISCUSSION. THE LETTER THAT WAS WRITTEN TO THE PORT AUTHORITY WAS READ AT THEIR MEETING. THE LETTER WAS FROM THE CITY ASKING THE PORT AUTHORITY TO JOIN FORCES WITH THE CITY TO ASK TO HAVE THE CHANNEL RELOCATED, OR SLIGHTLY MOVED. THERE WAS DISCUSSION, I HAD A CHANCE TO SPEAK, THERE WAS NO DECISION MADE AT THAT MEETING. THE CITY DOES HAVE A MEETING, I BELIEVE THE COMMISSION IS MEETING WITH THE BOARD, A JOINT [00:10:05] MEETING, THE FIRST OF JANUARY. I'M NOT SURE WHAT THE DATE IS. MAYBE IT'S -- >> THE 6TH. >> THE 6TH OF JANUARY. THAT MEETING IS ABOUT SOME OTHER BUSINESS, BUT MY SUGGESTION IS THAT SOME OF THE MARINA ADVISORY BOARD COULD ATTEND THAT MEETING AND PERHAPS BRING IT UP. HOPEFULLY WE'LL HAVE THOSE TWO BOARDS SITTING TOGETHER FACE TO FACE FOR CONVERSATIONS. AND IF WE COULD GET THEM TO DISCUSS THIS RELOCATING OF THE CHANNEL, THAT MIGHT BE A GOOD TIME TO DO THAT. >> I SUBMITTED A LETTER TO EVERYBODY ON THE BOARD. >> OKAY, I'M SORRY. >> OKAY, AND THAT LETTER WAS IN RESPONSE TO THE LAST MEETING WE HAD IN WHICH COLEMAN AND I AGREED TO WORK ON A LETTER, AND SINCE I HADN'T HEARD FROM COLEMAN, I JUST DID IT MYSELF, OKAY? >> WELL, I'M GLAD YOU MENTIONED THAT BECAUSE THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN ILLEGAL. >> EXACTLY WHY -- OKAY, I FIGURED THAT YOU PROBABLY HAVE ONE, WE HAVE ONE AND WE COULD HASH IT OUT. IF YOU WISH, THOUGH, IT CAN -- I'VE MADE ENOUGH COPIES FOR ALL OF US PLUS JOE, AND PIECE THIS THING TOGETHER, AND IF YOU'RE GOING TO BE AT A MEETING WITH THE OCEAN HIGHWAY AND PORT AUTHORITY IN THE CITY OF FERNANDINA, IT MIGHT BE A GOOD IDEA TO HAVE THIS IN HAND. DOES SOMEBODY WANT TO READ IT OR YOU WANT ME TO READ IT? OKAY. THIS IS BASICALLY TO THE CHAIRMAN OF THE OCEAN HIGHWAY AND PORT AUTHORITY. DEAR CHAIRMAN, AS YOU'RE AWARE, THE EFFORTS OF THE CITY OF FERNANDINA BEACH TO RESTORE ITS MARINA FOLLOWING HURRICANE MATTHEW WERE H HAMPERED BY THE MARINA FACILITY'S LOCATION IN PROXIMITY TO THE FEDERAL NAVIGATION CHANNEL. DUE TO CHANGES IN THE ARMY CORPS OF ENGINEERS' REGULATIONS, THE CITY HARBOR MARINA REQUIREMENTS TO REPLACE BOTH SOUTHERN AND NORTHERN ATTENUATORS IN THEIR PREVIOUS ORIGINAL LOCATION WERE NO LONGER IN COMPLIANCE, SPECIAL MER MITTS WERE REQUIRED. THE FERNANDINA MARINA HAS A HISTORY OF RELYING ON TAXPAYERS FOR SUPPORT. FERNANDINA MARINA MUST BE EXPANDED TO THE NORTH TO INCREASE DOCKAGE REVENUE, THUS REDUCING SOME OF THIS RELIANCE. FURTHER IMPROVEMENTS TO THE NORTH ATTENUATOR ARE NOT CURRENTLY POSSIBLE DUE TO ARMY CORPS OF ENGINEER REGULATIONS. A SOLUTION TO THIS ISSUE WOULD BE TO HAVE THE FEDERAL CHANNEL WEST OF FERNANDINA MARINA MOVED 100 FEET TO THE WEST OR HAVE THE FEDERAL NAVIGATION CHANNEL SOUTH OF THE PORT OF FERNANDINA DEAUTHORIZED. THE AREA OF THE CHANNEL HAS NOT BEEN ACTIVE FOR MORE THAN 30 YEARS. THE ISSUE OF HAVING THE FEDERAL CHANNEL WEST OF FERNANDINA HARBOR MARINA MOVED 100 FEET TO THE WEST HAS BEEN DISCUSSED FOR OVER 20 YEARS AND APPROVED BY ALL PARTIES. THE CITY OF FERNANDINA HAS PROVIDED DOCUMENTATION THAT RELEASES OCEAN HIGHWAY AND PORT AUTHORITY OF ANY FINANCIAL RESPONSIBILITY IF FUTURE DREDGING IS REQUIRED. FOR OCEAN HIGHWAY AND PORT AUTHORITY ACTING AS A LOCAL SPONSOR TO MAKE A FORMAL REQUEST TO THE AR M THE ARMY ARMY CORPS TO REALIGN THE CHANNEL. THERE WAS SOME DISAGREEMENT ON THE NEED FOR THIS REALIGNMENT. ANY EXPANSION OF FERNANDINA HARBOR MARINA WILL BE GREAT LEAY HAMPERED OR DECLINED BY THE ARMY CORP OF ENGINEERS DUE TO THE CHANNEL'S CURRENT LOCATION AND THEIR PERMITTING REQUIREMENTS. THE ADVISORY BOARD WOULD LIKE TO GO ON RECORD BY REQUESTING OCEAN HIGHWAY AND PORT AUTHORITY TO PROVIDE THE ARMY CORPS OF ENGINEERS CORRESPONDENCE THAT WILL CAUSE THE CHANNEL REALIGNMENT OR DEAUTHORIZATION SOUTH OF THE PORT. SINCERELY -- PRETTY MUCH GIVES THE WHOLE HISTORY AND WHY WE NEED IT CHANGED, AND BASICALLY SAYING FISH OR CUT BAIT. >> I THINK SOME OF THE DISCUSSION, JOE, THAT YOU HAD IS TO JUST DECOMMISSION THE CHANNEL, WOULD BE THE EASIEST, CLEANEST THAT MAY TAKE A LITTLE LONGER. >> IT M MAY, AND YOU MAY HAVE A NEW MEMBER THAT -- DOWN A LITTLE BIT TOO. >> I THINK THERE'S MORE THAN JUST YOURSELF AND MYSELF BELIEVE THAT, JUST TO DECOMMISSION THAT CHANNEL, IF THE ARMY CORPS OF ENGINEERS IN THE FUTURE EVER DECIDED TO RE-OPEN IT, THEY'D HAVE THE ABILITY TO DO THAT. >> THAT'S RIGHT. THEY CAN ALWAYS RE-AUTHORIZE IT. >> YEAH. >> OKAY, SO THAT'S NOT AN ISSUE. THE BEAUTY IS, IS THAT BY DEAUTHORIZING, IF YOU WANT TO RE-AUTHORIZE, THERE WILL AB WAITING PERIOD IN THERE IN WHICH ALL PARTIES HAVE A CHANCE TO PUT THEIR 2 CENTS IN. RIGHT NOW, THEY COULD JUST GO AHEAD AND SAY, OKAY, WE'RE GOING TO START USING THAT CHANNEL AND [00:15:04] EVERYBODY STARTS TO -- TO DREDGE IT. >> THE DISCUSSION THE OTHER NIGHT AT THE PORT AUTHORITY MEETING WAS THAT THE PORT AUTHORITY WAS CONCERNED THAT THE CITY MAY NOT BE COMMITTED TO PAYING THE FEES THAT WOULD BE REQUIRED IF THE CHANNEL HAD TO GET MOVED OR RE-OPENED. AND IT WAS MY UNDERSTANDING, I'VE COMMUNICATED WITH THEM, MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT THE CITY HAS ALREADY COMMITTED TO THAT. >> YES. >> WHEN WE GOT THE VARIANCE TO BUILD THE MARINA BACK IN ITS ORIGINAL LOCATION, THE CITY HAD TO COMMIT TO MOVING THE MARINA IF THE ARMY CORPS DECIDED TO RE-OPEN THE CHANNEL. >> THAT'S CORRECT. >> THAT'S A TREMENDOUS EXPENSE. >> THAT IS CORRECT. AND I MIGHT ADD, JUST TO COATTAIL ON THAT, I THINK WITH THE LETTER, WE SHOULD HAVE PUT IN THAT AGREEMENT, IT'S ALREADY THERE, LET'S JUST PUT IT RIGHT BACK IN, SAY PLEASE SEE THE ATTACHED -- SUCH AND SUCH, THAT GUARANTEES IT, BECAUSE YOU'VE SAID IT. 20-PLUS YEARS, HERE IT IS ONE MORE TIME. >> WELL, THE PROBLEM IS, THERE'S BEEN SO MANY PACKAGES GONE BACK AND FORTH, WITH ALL THE LETTERS BACK 20-SOME YEARS, THAT EVERYBODY IS SICK AND TIRED OF SEEING THE SAME LETTERS AS ATTACHMENTS ON THE NEXT LETTER THAT SHOWS UP. SO MY POINT IN ALL OF THIS WAS TO SAY, OKAY, I THINK I CAN SAY EVERYTHING IN ABOUT EIGHT LETTERS IN ONE QUICK AND DIRTY LETTER AND SAY LET'S JUST GET THIS THING DONE. >> I UNDERSTAND WHERE YOU'RE COMING FROM, BUT KNOWING WITH -- A FEW OTHER PEOPLE THERE, A LITTLE WIGGLE, YOU SAY HERE'S THE -- YOU DON'T HAVE TO WIGGLE PART BECAUSE WE'VE GOT THE AGREEMENT. I THINK SUBSEQUENT TO THE LETTER COMMITTING THE CITY, I THINK THERE'S ALSO A PORT AUTHORITY RESOLUTION, IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY, MAYBE YOU COULD CHECK INTO THAT, THAT ALSO ACKNOWLEDGES THIS. SO K CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG. >> -- 23 -- >> OKAY. SO WE HAVE -- I KNOW WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, IT SEEMS BURDENSOME TO KEEP PUTTING THE SAME PAPERWORK UP, BUT THE REALITY IS IF THEY TAKE THE TIME TO LOOK AT IT, IT REINFORCES WHAT YOU'RE SAYING. >> THE QUESTION IS, DOES EVERYBODY AGREE WITH THE LETTER? >> YES. >> OKAY. DOES THERE NEED TO BE ANY WORDSMITHING DONE? >> NO. >> OKAY. IF THERE DOESN'T, THEN I AGREE, ADD THE ATTACHMENTS, OKAY, AND PUT IT TOGETHER, AND IF JOE WOULD BE NICE ENOUGH THEN OR YOU, AND I DON'T KNOW IF STURGESS IS STILL THE CHAIRMAN OR NOT. >> HE IS. >> OKAY. AND PUT THAT TOGETHER IN A FORMAL LETTER THROUGH THE CITY OF FERNANDINA SO THEY CAN PUT THEIR CHOP ON IT, AND SEND IT ON TO HIGHWAY AND PORT AUTHORITY. >> BRING IT UP IN THE JOINT MEETING. >> YOU HAVE A COUPLE OF THINGS GOING ON HERE. IF YOU SUBMIT TO THE CITY SO THAT THE CITY SIGNS IT, THEY WON'T BE ABLE TO ACT TON IT UNTIL THEY HAVE THEIR NEXT MEETING, IF I'M CORRECT ON THAT. SO THEY CAN'T OFFICIALLY ACT ON THAT BODY OF THIS. WE CAN SUBMIT TO THEM FOR THEM TO INCLUDE IT. >> I WAS HOPING THAT THE APPROVAL WOULD COME FROM MR. MARTIN. SINCE THIS IS JUST A LETTER FROM AN ADVISORY BOARD, YOU'RE CHOPPING IT THROUGH THE CITY. THE COMMISSIONERS AREN'T APPROVING ANYTHING. THEY'RE JUST SAYING YES, THIS LETTER CAME THROUGH US. >> IF I MAY, THE CITY IS GOING TO BE CLOSED TUESDAY AND WEDNESDAY. THEY'LL BE BACK IN THE OFFICE THURSDAY. TO THE BEST OF MY KNOWLEDGE, THE CITY MANAGER WILL BE HERE ON THURSDAY. I CAN GET WITH HIM BECAUSE OF THE TIME FRAME GETTING TO THE 6TH, W WHICH IS THE FOLLOWING MONDAY, TO SEE IF THIS IS ALL THAT IS NEEDED, WOULD IT BENEFIT HIM TO HAVE THIS IN THE PACT HE'S GOING TO HAVE FOR MEETING, OR WOULD IT BENEFIT HIM FOR US TO HAVE THIS WITH THIS SIGNATURE ALONG WITH WHATEVER DOCUMENTS HE WOULD LIKE FOR US TO TAKE TO THAT MEETING FOR HIM. >> YEAH. BECAUSE THERE'S NOTHING BINDING HERE. THIS IS JUST -- >> WE'RE MAKING A STATEMENT. >> SAME THING. >> REITERATING PAST HISTORY. THAT'S THE WAY I WOULD SEE IT. >> I THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >> SO WITH THAT, WE WOULD NEED TO GET A MOTION AND A SECOND. >> MOTION AND A SECOND, PLEASE? >> >> SINCE I WROTE THE LETTER, I CAN'T MAKE THE MOTION. >> I'M GOING TO MAKE A MOTION TO ACCEPT THE LETTER WITH, IF YOU DON'T MIND ADDING THE ATTACHMENTS AS RECOMMENDED? >> PLEASE SEE ATTACHED. OKAY. NEEDS A SECOND. >> I'LL SECOND IT, YES, ES MESHLY WITH THE MOTION AND THE ATTACHMENTS. >> JUST A VOICE, ALL IN FAVOR? >> AYE. >> ALL RIGHT. I'LL SIGN THE LETTER. OFF TO THE CITY MANAGER. INCLUDE THIS FOR THE MEETING IN JANUARY HOPEFULLY. >> ALL RIGHT. AND YOU SAID JANUARY 6TH IS THE NEXT -- >> I THINK THAT'S WHAT I REMEMBER TOO. >> DO YOU MINE, JOE, MAYBE FINDING OUT AND JUST EMAIL US REAL QUICK? >> I KNOW THAT THEIR WEBSITE HAS A TENDENCY TO BE A LITTLE LATE GETTING UPDATED. [00:20:04] >> INITIAL MEETING IS THE 6TH. >> THEY HAVE A SPECIAL MEETING ON THE 6TH? >> I BELIEVE IT'S IN THESE CHAMBERS, IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY. >> YEAH. NOW THAT'S DOWN THERE, ISN'T IT? >> WELL, YOU KNOW HOW THAT ADDRESS -- >> IT'S GOING TO BE IN THE WHAT BUILDING? >> I DON'T THINK THIS IS YOUR ALL'S MEETING, THOUGH. >> I DON'T THINK THAT'S YOUR ALL'S. >> I'LL FIND OUT. >> >> JOE CAN SHARE THAT WITH US. ALL RIGHT. THAT TAKES -- >> OH, AND STURGESS IS NO LONGER THE CHAIRMAN. >> YOU'RE RIGHT, I'M SORRY. >> DANNY -- >> THE NEW CHAIRMAN. AND THEY HAVE A NEWPORT AUTHORITY DIRECTOR TOO ALSO. >> KIND. WENT FROM AN ACTING TO REAL OR SOMETHING. >> [INAUDIBLE] >> PARDON ME? >> HE TOLD ME HE WASN'T THE ACTING, HE WAS THE PORT DIRECTOR. >> OH, REALLY. THAT WAS SWEET OF HIM. >> EITHER HE'S RIGHT OR HE'S WRONG. ARE YOU SURE YOU DON'T WANT TO BE ON THIS BOARD, MA'AM? [LAUGHTER] >> ALL RIGHT. SO THAT TAKES CARE OF OUR OLD BUSINESS AND WE HAVE ACTUALLY NO NEW BUSINESS. >> I'VE GOT ONE ITEMMITE LIKE TO [Item 6] PUT ON THERE. >> OKAY. >> THAT IS A PARKS AND REC. COMMITTEE, BEING THAT YOU'RE THE LIAISON, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE UNDER BUSINESS EACH MEETING AN UPDATE OF SOME SORT BROUGHT FORWARD. I THINK THAT'S GOING TO BE OF INTEREST TO ALL OF US, THE PARK THAT'S GOING TO BE DOWN ON THE WATERFRONT. >> CAN THAT BE A WRITTEN UPDATE OR -- >> NO, VERBAL -- THAT WAY AT LEAST WE HAVE IT ON HERE AND WE CAN KIND OF DISCUSS THE EFFECTS OF WHAT'S HAPPENING ALONG THOSE LINES. >> I BELIEVE THERE IS THE CITY COMMISSION IS GOING TO BE PRESENTED WITH A PLAN FROM THE CONSULTANTS FOR THE PARK ON THE FIRST MEETING OF JANUARY. >> I THINK IT'S GOING TO BE DISCUSSED IN THE VISIONING SESSION TOO. >> WE USUALLY CAN'T DISCUSS -- >> I KNOW, I SAID THEY'RE GOING TO DISCUSS IT. WE CAN ATTEND AND LISTEN. >> THAT'S USUALLY IN JANUARY, RIGHT? >> END OF JANUARY, LIKE THE 23RD, IN THAT TIME FRAME. >> IS THAT AT THE REC. CENTER OR -- >> USUALLY AT THE GOLF COURSE. >> COMMISSION BUSINESS. >> THAT'S ON THE 22ND? >> OF JANUARY. WHEN'S THE FIRST COMMISSION MEETING? >> JANUARY 7TH. >> WHAT TIME? >> 6:00. >> JANUARY 7TH IS A COMMITTEE MEETING? >> JANUARY 7TH, THE FIRST IS -- EXCUSE ME -- THE FIRST TUESDAY OF NEXT YEAR. >> OKAY. AND THE NEXT REC. CENTER MEETING -- >> THAT, I DON'T KNOW. >> WHAT YOU WANT ME TO DO IS GO AHEAD IN THE OLD BUSINESS AND INCLUDE THAT THE SAME WAY WE DO -- >> CORRECT. >> YOU SPECIFICALLY WANTED TO BE A PARKS AND REC. OR -- >> WATERFRONT. >> WATERFRONT BOARD. DO THEY HAVE ONE MEETING ALREADY, KEVIN? >> THEY DID, THEY HAD A MEETING FIRST OF DECEMBER. >> I WAS TRYING TO GO TO THAT TOO. I COULDN'T MAKE IT. >> MARINA MANAGER REPORT. [Item 7.1] >> QUICK AND EASY. FOR THE MOST PART. WHAT WE HAVE, JUST WANT TO LET YOU KNOW THAT THE LONG TERM WAITING LIST, IF I DIDN'T ANNOUNCE IT AT THE LAST TIME, WE DID OPEN IT UP THROUGH THE FH MARINA WEBSITE CONTACT FORM, YOU CAN GO IN THERE, PUT YOUR NAME IN TO BE ON THE WAITING LIST ITSELF. CURRENTLY WE HAVE OVER 850 FEET OF BOAT PLANNING TO BE ON THE WAITING LIST, BOTH COMMERCIAL PLEASURE, RECREATIONAL, THE WHOLE WORKS, AND THE LIST IS GROWING EVERY DAY. I'M HAPPY TO SAY PEOPLE ARE DYING TO COME BACK. THAT'S ALL THERE IS TO IT. IN LINE WITH THAT, THE ITEM 7.2, THE SHRIMP FESTIVAL [Item 7.2] RESERVATIONS, YES, WE WILL BE TAKING THEM JANUARY 2ND AT 6:30 IN THE MORNING. >> THERE WILL BE A CROWD OUT [00:25:02] FRONT. >> WE WILL PROBABLY BE SOLD OUT AT 6:45, IF HISTORY HOLDS TRUE. ONE THING THAT'S DIFFERENT ABOUT THIS, THE PEOPLE THAT COME AND REQUEST A RESERVATION WILL ALSO BE GIVEN A LETTER SAYING THIS IS A CONDITIONAL RESERVATION. UNTIL THE MARINA IS OPEN AND THE BOATS ARE IN PLACE, WE DON'T KNOW IF WE'RE GOING TO HAVE 850 FEET, 8,000 FEET, OR 3. SO UNTIL WE GET THE PEOPLE THAT NEED TO BE BACK IN THERE IN PLACE, PLUS WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THE SHRIMP FESTIVAL IS GOING TO NEED ON THE OUTSIDE. SO THERE'S A LOT OF VARIABLES IN THERE, BUT WHAT WE'RE GOING TO STRESS TO THE PEOPLE IS COME DOWN AND GET ON THE LIST. THE EARLIER, THE BETTER. >> IT WOULD BE PRIORITIZED, ANYONE WHO WAS IN LINE AT 6:30, WE WALKED OUT AND HANDED THEM NUMBERED PIECES OF PAPER. YOU ARE APPLICATION NUMBER 1, YOU'RE 2, YOUR 3, YOU'RE 4, YOUR A. 5. I'M THE ONLY ONE ANSWERING THE TELEPHONE, SO I SAY THANK YOU, MR. MCCARTHY, YOU ARE NUMBER 14 AND TELL ME ABOUT YOUR BOAT, THANK YOU SO MUCH. NOW YOU'RE NUMBER 17. WE HAD IT DOWN PRETTY MUCH TO A SCIENCE, HOW IT'S GOING TO WORK. PLUS ONE OF THE THINGS WE'RE DOING THIS YEAR IS HAVING YOU, THE BOATER, PRE-FILL, AS SOON AS YOU GET IN LINE, GO AHEAD, GIVE ME YOUR NAME, PHONE, ADDRESS, SO YOU DON'T HAVE TO WANDER THROUGH THAT, SO THAT'S ALL WE HAVE WITH THAT. SOMETHING THAT DID COME UP AT THE LAST MEETING OF THE COMMISSIONERS, THEY DID HAVE A PRESENTATION BY COMMISSIONER ROSS THAT WENT INTO SOME DEGREE ABOUT -- HE PROVIDED THIS SLIDE SHOW TO THE OTHER COMMISSIONERS DURING THE COMMENTS. SO I JUST THOUGHT IT WAS SOMETHING THAT YOU SHOULD SEE WHAT IS BEING DISCUSSED UP THERE. HE MENTIONS THE POST CLEAN-UP, HE GOES INTO THE AGREEMENT BETWEEN WEST TRACK AND THE CITY AS FAR AS US BEING RESPONSIBLE FOR DAY TO DAY MAINTENANCE, THE REPAIR, THE LANDSCAPING, NEGOTIATE SUPERVISE INSTALLATION. THIS WAS ALL DISCUSSED. HE HADN'T POINTED OUT THAT ON DECEMBER 7, HE FOUND THIS SHORT TRASH HERE, AND HE FOUND THIS SHORT TRASH HERE AND HE FOUND THIS SHORT TRASH HERE, THEN HE FOUND A FLAGPOLE THAT HAD RUST ON IT. HE HAD PILE GUIDES THAT NEEDED TO BE REPLACED, BARN KELS THAT WERE ON THE PILE GUIDES, RUB RAILING MISSING ON SOME OF THE DOCKS, THE ADDITIONAL RUB RAIL WHERE YOU CAN SEE IT'S KIND OF -- THIS IS OVER ON DOCK 3. THIS SORT OF CRACK IN IT RIGHT HERE. SO THIS ALL CAME TO OUR ATTENTION. ALSO HE HAD A CONCERN ABOUT THE GANGWAYS, THAT WHENEVER YOU LOOK UP THE GANGWAY, IT SEEMS TO LOOK OKAY, BUT THEN AS YOU START GOING UP THE GANGWAY, YOU START SEEING THAT THE TRACTION TREAD IS MISSING IN SOME OF THE PLACES, HE MENTIONED THEY WERE IN NEED OF BEING REPAIRED AND/OR REPLACED, THEY SHOULD BE LOOKED AT, THEY SHOULD BE LOOKED AT CONSTANTLY, ANOTHER PICTURE OF THE TIE BARS AND WHALERS, AND IT WAS DISCUSSED ALSO THAT THE CONCRETE PROJECT THAT'S GOING ON THERE, IT'S NOT REALLY A PROJECT, JUST THE SPAWLING OF THE METAL THAT'S GOTTEN SALTWATER IN IT IS STARTING TO CRACK. ANOTHER PICTURE OF THAT, HE MENTIONED A CONCERN THAT HE FOUND FIRE BOXES ON THE DOCK THAT WERE IN SAD SHAPE, AND A COUPLE OF THEM, HE WASN'T ABLE TO OPEN AND WHEN HE DID OPEN ONE, HE FOUND THAT ONE OF THEM WAS OUT OF DATE, SO IT WAS A CONCERN IF THERE WAS SOMETHING GOING ON AT THE MARINA, WOULD WE BE ABLE TO MANAGE IT. THEN HE ASKED FOSH A DISCUSSION FROM THE MEMBERS. I HAD BEEN TOLD THIS WAS COMING UP SO IT GAVE ME AN OPPORTUNITY TO LOOK INTO SOME OF IT, SO MY INTENT HERE WITH Y'ALL TONIGHT IS TO JUST TURN ARN, OKAY, YOU HEARD WHAT WAS SAID AT THAT TIME, I'M ONLY A JANET -- THE JANUARY7 7TH MEETING, 4.2, GIVIG JUST A PRESENTATION. SO IF I HAVE THE RIGHT ONE -- OF COURSE NOT. I CAN GET THE RIGHT ONE. SO THIS IS AS OF 23 DECEMBER. THIS WAS AS OF TODAY. WENT AHEAD AND JUST TOOK HIS PRESENTATION AND MADE SOME COMMENTS IN IT. CORRECTED THE DATE, IT'S NOT 2017, IT'S ACTUALLY 2019 SO I'M SURE THAT WAS JUST AN OVERSIGHT. HE MADE A REMARK THAT AFTER THE CLEAN-UP -- THIS IS WHAT WE DID, OUR GUYS GOT TOGETHER AND DECIDED THIS PARTICULAR -- I'VE [00:30:01] DISCUSSED THIS WITH YOU IN THE PAST, THE SUNSET DOC. WE COMPLETELY GUTTED IT, REBUILT IT SO IT WOULD BE SOMETHING PEOPLE WOULD BE PROUD OF, AND I'M HAPPY TO SAY, THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE USING THAT FOR A PHOTOGRAPHIC BACKDROP, THEY'RE REALLY ENJOYING WHAT WE ARE DOING TO IT. HE MENTIONED ALL THE PIPES AND TRASH THAT WAS IN THE RIVER UP ALONG THE SHORE, AND ONE THING THAT DIDN'T COME UP IS A COUPLE OF THINGS THAT HAPPENS AT A MARINA, ONE, YOU HAVE TO HAVE THE TIDES IN YOUR FAVOR, YOU HAVE TO HAVE THE MANPOWER IN FAVOR, SO THAT MEANS THURSDAY IS THE ONLY DAY THAT WE HAVE ENOUGH PEOPLE THAT WE CAN PUT TWO IN A BOAT AND STILL FUNCTION, AND WE HAVE TO HOPE THERE'S A LOW TIDE IN THAT TIME FRAME. SO IT HASN'T BEEN SOMETHING THAT'S EASY, BUT WE DID GET ALL OF THE TRASH OUT FROM THE SUNSET DOCK CLEANED ALL THE WAY THROUGH. THE AGREEMENT THAT HE HAD, ABSOLUTELY, DECEMBER 14TH, THIS IS SOMETHING THAT CAME UP. AND IT DOES TALK ABOUT THE TRASH. THIS IS DOWN WHERE THE UP IN DINGHY DOCK IS. ANOTHER PICTURE OF JUST A DIFFERENT VIEW OF THE SAME THING, THIS IS A PICTURE OF THAT DOCK THAT WAS SUPPOSED TO GO DOWN TO THE DINGHY DOCK. YOU NOTICE IT HAS NO STOPS AT THE END AND JUST A ROA ROPE TO D OF HELP PEOPLE IN. SO WE STARTED REPAIRS ON THAT DOCK BY CLOSING THE AREA AT THE END SO YOU JUST CAN'T FALL OUT. WE TOOK OUT THE ROPES AND PUT IN BOARDS FOR THAT ALSO. THIS IS JUST A PICTURE OF THE DETAIL THESE GUYS ARE GOING THROUGH TO GET IT PUT IN. THE COMMENT CAME UP ABOUT THE FLAGPOLE AND THAT IT'S RUSSY. WELL, IT WASN'T BROUGHT UP THAT THE DISCUSSION IN THE WORK TICKETS HAD ALREADY BEEN PUT INTO THE CITY OF FERNANDINA SO THEY HAVE AN EXTRA FLAGPOLE IN STOCK, THEY OWN IT AND THEY'RE JUST WAITING FOR ME TO GIVE THEM A LOCATION TO INSTALL IT. A HIGHER FLY -- SO IT WOULD BE EASIER TO SEE, PLUS WHEN WE HAVE THE AMERICAN FLAG ON THE TOP, IT'S CONSTANTLY GETTING CAUGHT IN THAT CROSSBAR, RIPPING AND TEARING IT. THE IDEA WAS LET'S FIND A LOCATION OF WHERE THIS FLAG SHOULD BE AND PUT IT UP AND HAVE THIS AND NOTHING MORE, AND WE DID GO AND PRESSURE WASH IT, WE MADE ARRANGEMENTS TO -- EVEN THOUGH IT'S NOT GOING TO BE USED, TO HAVE SCISSOR LIFT THERE, THE SECOND OR THE THIRD THURSDAY OF JANUARY, SO OUR GUY CAN GO OUT THERE AND PUT A FRESH COAT OF PAINT ON IT. IF WE'RE GOING TO HAVE IT, WE MIGHT AS WELL HAVE IT LOOKING GOOD. SO QUESTIONS CAME UP IN COMMISSIONER ROSS' PRESENTATION ABOUT THE LACK OF MAINTENANCE ON CERTAIN DOCKS, BUT THE ONE THING THAT DID COME UP IS, UP UNTIL OCTOBER 12TH, WE WERE UNDER THE IMPRESSION THAT INVITATION TO BID 1823 HAD A COUPLE OF PARTS IN THERE, AND PART OF THAT WAS THE DEMOLITION AND REMOVAL OF THE SOUTHERN BASIN FLOATING DOCKS, THE CONTRACTOR WAS SUPPOSED TO TAKE CARE -- WE SHOULDN'T REINSTALL THEM. THEY WERE ALSO SUPPOSED TO TAKE DOCKS 4 AND 5, WHICH WAS THE APPROACH TO 4 AND 5, THEY WOULD REMAIN IN PLACE, THEY'D REFURBISH AS DIRECTED, REFURBISH AS DIRECTED, WHICH CALLS FOR ALL NEW WHALERS, ALL NEW RUB RAIL. SO WE'RE THINKING THIS IS DONE, THERE'S NO REASON FOR US TO SPEND ANY TIME ON IT, IT'S PART OF A CONTRACT. SO THE TWO IMPORTANT PARTS OF THAT, WHAT WE THOUGHT WAS SUPPOSED TO HAPPEN A.SO WHEN IT COMES DOWN TO THIS, WE HAPPEN TO HAVE THE PERSON WHO PROVIDED THE DOCK SOUTH 2 AND SOUTH 3 WAS ON SITE LAST WEEK, SO WE WALKED HIM DOWN THERE, HE GAVE US A PRICE TO REPLACE ALL THE PILE GUIDES THERE WERE DOWN THERE, I BELIEVE IT WAS FIVE OF THEM TO START WITH. $5,600. THEN WE HAVE NEW PILE GUIDES, WE'RE GOOD, NEW ROLLERS, NEW WHILES AND EVERYTHING, FINE AND DANDY WITH THAT, THAT'S ABOVE MY SPENDING CAPABILITY SO NOW I HAVE TO GET CITY MANAGER APPROVAL ON IT, WHICH I DON'T SEE A PROBLEM WITH THAT, WE HAVE IT IN A BUDGET, WE CAN DO IT. ALSO WITH THIS 1823, WE'VE GOT TO WAIT EVEN THOUGH WE THOUGHT THEY WERE GOING TO DO IT, WE WILL PUT THE PILE GUIDES IN. BUT YOU NOTICE THIS CRUSTY BARNACLES THAT ARE ON THERE, AGAIN WE'RE UNDER THE IMPRESSION THAT WAS PART OF THE OORNLGAL BID, THAT THEY WOULD REPAIR IN PLACE. BUT WE ALREADY HAD OUR DOCK MASTER OUT THERE TAKING CARE OF IT, CLEANING THE PILINGS UP, GIVING GOOD TRAINING TO THE GUYS THAT WE HAVE. THE RUB RAIL THAT WAS QUESTIONED ON THE DOCKS, WE WERE ABLE TO AND THE PROJECT MANAGER DID THIS, WENT TO THE VENDOR AND BOUGHT EVERY PIECE OF RUB RAIL THAT THEY HAD, WE INSTALLED EVERY PIECE OF RUB RAIL HE BROUGHT DOWN ON THE DINGGY DOCK. SINCE THEN WE'VE ORDERED AND RECEIVED AN ADDITIONAL 24 PIECES OF IT, WHICH HE GOT HIS ORDER IN, I WENT AND PICKED EVERY PIECE UP, WE HAVE IT AT THE [00:35:02] MARINA NOW TO PUT IN ALSO. SO IT'S GOING TO BE GOING AS SOON AS -- I IMAGINE WHEN THE HOLIDAYS ARE OVER WITH. THE RUB RAIL ON DOCK 2, THERE'S RUB RAIL AVAILABLE, WE WILL GET OVER THERE AND GET THIS ONE ALSO ALSO. SOMETHING THAT CAME TO MY ATTENTION ON THIS ONE, WE WERE TALKING ABOUT THE SLIP TRIPS, THESE TREADS THAT ARE ON HERE. THIS IS GOING DOWN TO DOCK 3, AND IT IS AN ADA AREA, WE UNDERSTAND THAT COMPLETELY. SO WHEN HE'S TALKING ABOUT IT, THIS ISN'T GOOD. SO I WENT AHEAD AND WENT OVER TO LOOK THE AT UR OH BRAND NEW ADA-COMPATIBLE 100% GUARANTEED TO BE ADA COMPATIBLE 80-FOOT RAMP THAT GOES DOWN TO THE BREAKWATER AND THERE'S NOTHING ON THAT. SO I GO AHEAD TO DOCK 2, THERE'S NO SLIP, TRIP ON THAT EITHER. THIS IS -- SO NONE OF THEM HAVE IT. SO I GUESS WHAT I'M SAYING HERE, WE WENT BACK AND REMOVED THE DEFECTIVE PIECES AND HAVE IT SO NOW EVEN THOUGH NONE OF THE OTHER DOCKS DO, THERE IS THIS TRIP STUFF ON HERE THAT YOU CAN GET SOME TRACTION AS YOU'RE GOING DOWN. WE WILL PUT MORE ON AS WE GET IT. OUR VENDOR LOGO IS OUT. THE TIE BARS AT THE RUB RAILS THAT CAME UP, AS I SAID, WHO WILL BE PUTTING THAT ON, BUT SOMETHING ELSE THAT CAME INTO QUESTION WAS, OKAY, IF YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT ONE OR TWO TIE BARS, IF EAR TALKING ABOUT A FEW FEET OF RUB RAIL, THAT'S ONE THING, BUT WHEN YOU TAKE A BALLPARK FIGURE AS WAS MENTIONED TO BE AS FUNCTIONAL AS THE OTHER NEW ONES, A BALLPARK FIGURE BY A LOCAL CONTRACTOR WHO'S ON SITE SAID EXPECT TO SPEND ABOUT $42,000 FOR DOCK 3 AND EXPECT TO SPEND ABOUT $50,000 FOR DOCK 2. SO THAT'S $100,000 WORTH OF EXPENSES THAT I ASSURE YOU WAS NOT IN THE BUDGET THAT WE HAD FOR THIS YEAR. AS FAR AS THE CONCRETE IS CONCERNED, THERE'S NO GOOD ANSWER TO THAT. I'VE BEEN THROUGH PROJECTS WHERE THE CONCRETE RESTORATION HAS BEEN VERY EXPENSIVE, VERY COSTLY. REALLY, IT GETS INTO HOW MUCH CAN WE AFFORD. BUT SOMETHING THAT SHOULD BE NOTED, IF YOU NOTICE THE FLAGPOLE IS TO THE RIGHT, ALL OF THOSE BRACKETS WERE INSTALLED BY THE CITY TO SUPPORT BOARDS SO THAT THEY COULD GO OUT ON THEM TO GET UP ON THE DOCK. SO WHEN THEY TOOK THEM DOWN, THAT EXPOSED A COUPLE OF HOLES AND, YES, RUST HAS COME OUT. I HAVE TALKED TO CITY MAINTENANCE ABOUT THIS. THEY AGREE SOMETHING NEEDS TO BE DONE, WE DON'T HAVE AN ANSWER, IT'S ONGOING. IT WAS POINTED OUT THAT THERE ARE FOUR FIRE BOXES, COULDN'T OPEN THEM, THEY WERE DIRTY, IT WAS HARD TO SEE. OKAY? I'M NOT TRYING TO MAKE EXCUSES, BUT THE INTENT HAS ALWAYS BEEN THAT THE MARINA WOULD BE HO KNOWLEDGE NUSSNESS, WHATEVER WED USE ON DOCK 1, WE WOULD USE ON DOCK 2 AND DOCK 3. WE WOULD ALSO USE THE SAME EQUIPMENT ON THE FUEL DOCK, AND WHEN BOATS COME TO THE NORTH SIDE GOING TO THE SOUTH SIDE, WE WOULD BE REPLACING THE FIRE BOXES WITH THE SAME -- THAT'S EVERYWHERE ELSE. BUT BECAUSE THEY WENT AHEAD -- AS YOU CAN SEE, THE ONE IN THE BACK IS WHAT IT WAS, THE ONE UP FRONT IS ONE THAT HE'S PAINTING NOW, AND IF THE FIRE DEPARTMENT CAME UP, YOU CAN SEE WHERE THOSE TWO FIRE PEDESTALS ARE. THAT'S OVER THERE ON DOCK 2. BIG RED BLOB, YOU CAN SEE THEM EASILY SO WE'RE WORKING ON THAT. THEY ARE COMING ON SITE TO REPLACE ALL OUTDATED EXTINGUISHERS. THERE ARE ONLY FIVE DISTINGUISHERS IN THE BUILDING NOW. HOW THIS ONE WAS NOT PICKED UP LAST YEAR, I DON'T KNOW. IT HAS BEEN REPLACED WITH AN INDATE EXTINGUISHER, IN THE MAINTENANCE SHED FOR IT. SO SIMPLE DISCUSSION POINTS, I WON'T BORE YOU WITH IT, BUT WE WENT DOWN TO TWO PEOPLE, KEVIN AND I. WE HAD TO MAINTAIN WHAT WAS GOING ON WITHOUT DOING A WHOLE LOT OF MAINTENANCE, WE KNEW DOCK 1 WAS GOING TO BE REPLACED, DOCK 2 WAS GOING TO BE -- EXCUSE ME, 2 AND 3 BR GOING TO STAY AND EVERY OTHER DOCK WAS GOING TO BE FIXED BY SOMEBODY OR BE REPLACED. SO LET'S FOCUS WHAT WE NEED TO DO ELSEWHERE. WE DID GET SOME PEOPLE IN HERE AND NOW THAT I'VE GOT A STAFF OF A DOCK MASTER AND TWO FULL TIME PEOPLE AND ONE PART-TIME PERSON, THEY HAVE REALLY BEEN GETTING ALONG WITH THEM. ONE OF THE THINGS THEY DID WAS GET DOWN TO THE -- THAT WAS BEFORE THESE NEW GUYS CAME IN. WHAT'S THE SIGNIFICANCE OF THAT? THOSE WERE CLASS 3 HURRICANE-RESISTANT WINDOWS. CERTIFIED CLASS 3. THOSE ARE VERY EXPENSIVE DOUBLE PANE WINDOWS THAT WENT IN THERE. [00:40:03] THE HARDWARE THAT WAS IN AND AROUND THE DOORS AND EVERYTHING WAS ALL STAINLESS STEEL. SO WE TOOK EVERYTHING OF VALUE THAT WE COULD DO, THAT WAS ONE PART OF IT, GET READY TO HAVE IT TAKEN AWAY. AND THEN ALSO TURNING THAT INTO THE CHECK-IN. IN THIS TIME THAT MAINTENANCE COULD BE DONE ELSEWHERE, WE DID HAVE A NEW FLOOR PUT IN, WE DID HAVE ALL THE OLD UGLY -- I SHOULDN'T SAY YOU THINKLY -- THAT WAS TAKEN OUT, NEW PANELING PUT IN, THE CITY PUT IN NEW LIGHTS, YOU CAN SEE OVER ON THE RIGHT-HAND SIDE, WE'RE SETTING IT UP FOR THE STORE. WE'VE HAD COOLERS CHECKED OUT, THAT DESK SECTION THAT YOU SEE OVER ON THE LEFT, THAT WAS MADE BY OUR PEOPLE, NOT PURCHASED, AND IT WAS SELF MADE BECAUSE IF IT FIT OVER AN EXISTING PIECE OF EQUIPMENT THAT WE ALREADY OWNED, WE DON'T HAVE TO BUY ANYTHING NEW. WE DID DO ALL THE WINDOWS OVER AS FAR AS SEALING THEM AND REPAINTING THEM, BUT WHAT'S NICE ABOUT IT IS WHENEVER WE THINK ABOUT DOING SOME REPAIRS ON IT, THE WINDOWS THAT CAME OUT OF THAT BUILDING WILL GO IN THAT BUILDING. SO NOW THEY WILL BE UP TO DATE. SO THE AGREEMENT THAT WE HAVE, SHALL EXECUTE OR HAVE CONTROL OVER, I THINK WE'RE DOING THAT, ROUTINE DAY TO DAY, IT MAY NOT BE THE OTHER PEOPLE BUT DEFINITELY AS WE SEE THE KNEE, THAT'S THE ONE WE NEED TO BE ON. IF THAT DOCK IS GOING AWAY, IT CAN WAIT. THE SECOND PART OF THAT WAS THE BUCK TRACK SHALL SUPERVISE THE INSTALLATION OF MINOR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS. WE'RE DOING THEM NOW. THAT'S WHY I WAS TALKING TO THESE PEOPLE ABOUT GETTING -- AND FINALLY, WHICH WEST TRACK DEEMS NECESSARY AND APPROPRIATE. WE SET THE PRIORITY, WE'RE DOWN THERE EVERY DAY. AS SOON AS SOMEONE TELLS US OF A PROBLEM, ALLEN TOLD ME ABOUT A PROBLEM ABOUT A BOARD IN THE LAST MEETING. TWO DAYS LATER, HE ASKED WHEN I WAS GOING TO DO IT, IT WAS DONE. IF YOU MAKE ME AWARE OF A PROBLEM, I WILL FIX THAT PROBLEM. THAT'S 12 1/2 ACRES OF POTENTIAL PROBLEMS. ALL I WANT TO DO IS BE TOLD WHAT NEEDS TO BE DONE AND WE'LL TAKE CARE OF IT. SO I'M GO TO HAVE FOUR MINUTES TO DO WHAT PROBABLY JUST TOOK ME 30 BUT I'LL CONDENSE THIS DOWN TO A SIZABLE EASILY DIGESTED PRESENTATION. MY MOINT POINT WANTED TO BE THA, THE COMMISSION IS ASKING WHAT'S GOING ON IN THE MARINA ON THE DOCKS THAT WERE SUPPOSED TO BE FIXED BY SOMEBODY ELSE AND NOW ARE TO BE FIXED BY US. WE GOT IT. WE'LL HANDLE IT. AND WHEN SOMEONE MAKES THAT REMARK, IT'S NOT BEING MAINTAINED. I JUST WANT YOU AWARE THAT THE SAME WAY YOU BRING INFORMATION IN, YOU CAN PUT THE INFORMATION OUT. IT IS BEING MAINTAINED, THE THINGS THAT SOMEONE ELSE MAY OR MAY NOT BE SEEING MAY OR MAY NOT BE THE THINGS WE CONSIDER TO BE THE PRIORITY OF HAVING DONE. END OF MY DISCUSSION. >> I'VE GOT A QUESTION. >> SURE. >> YOU REFERENCED THINGS THAT THE CONTRACTOR WAS SUPPOSED TO BE DOING VIA THE POA -- >> BY THE CONTRACT. >> MY QUESTION IS, IF THEY DIDN'T DO IT, DID WE GET A CHANGE ORDER FOR IT? >> WE DID. >> AND DID ITS VALUE GET REDUCED? >> THE DOCKS IN QUESTION WOULD BE MOVED DOWN TO THE SOUTH END AND INSTEAD OF DOING ANY WORK TO THEM, A NEW -- SO BY PUTTING IN A NEW DOCK, THIS RELIEVED THEM OF ANY RESPONSIBILITY FOR THE OTHER TWO DOCKS. >> OKAY. AND THERE WAS SOME ADJUSTMENTS MADE IN THAT ALSO. >> THAT'S SOMETHING -- THE PROJECT MANAGER IS STAYING ON TOP OF THAT. >> I THINK THAT WAS GREAT. AND I KNOW YOU SAID YOU ONLY HAVE FOUR MINUTES TO -- WHAT YOU JUST PRESENTED, I HOPE THAT YOU TAKE ALL THE TIME YOU NEED TO EXPLAIN TO THE COMMISSIONERS, AND I THINK AS I STARTED LISTENING, I WANTED TO HEAR MORE, AND EVERYTHING WAS FOLLOWING PERFECTLY. A LOT OF TIMES I KNOW FROM MY EXPERIENCE THAT IT'S EASY TO KIND OF LOOK AND COME IN AND PICK THINGS APART. IT'S REALLY GOOD TO HEAR FROM YOU, SO I SAY HOPEFULLY THE COMMISSION WILL LET YOU HAVE THE TIME TO SAY WHAT YOU HAVE TO SAY. >> IT WAS INTERESTING, I WAS SITTING BACK THERE IN THE BACK, AND I WANTED TO BE HERE WHEN THE COMMISSION WAS TALKING ABOUT IT. THAT WAY YOU GET TO SEE THE TRUE STORY. I LOOK OVER HERE AT THE PODIUM, EVERYBODY WHO COMES TO ONE OF THEIR MEETINGS, WHY DON'T THEY DRILL A HOLE, RUN THOSE CABLES THROUGH IT. >> YOU KNOW WHAT I'M SAYINGS, I CAN GO TO ANYONE'S HOUSE THE SAME WAY YOU CAN COME TO MINE, AND IF YOU LOOK HARD ENOUGH -- I REMEMBER IN A PREVIOUS LIFE DOING COMPUTER WORK AND GOING TO A MULT MULTIMILLION THRAR HOUSE. I GO UP TO THE DOOR, WHAT DID I NOTICE? THERE WERE COULD B COBWEBS ON TE DOORBELL. I COULDN'T TELL YOU ANYTHING ELSE EXCEPT I WENT -- DING DONG. IT'S JUST ONE OF THOSE THINGS WHAT WE SEE, WHAT WE PERCEIVE. AND THAT, SIR, IS MY REPORT. [00:45:05] >> AND I DID SPEAK TO THE PROJECT MANAGER TODAY ABOUT [Items 8 & 10] PROGRESS AT THE MARINA, AND IT LOOKS LIKE EVERYTHING IS STILL ALL SCHEDULED, MARCH 1ST SHOULD BE THE DATE THAT IT CAN HAPPEN. I THINK IT LOOKS LIKE THERE'S STILL -- THAT NEEDS TO BE SET FOR A FEW OF THESE. THE CONDUIT IS ALL IN PLACE. >> THE DOGS ARE PREWIRED AND READY TO GO, BACK TO THE AREA, THE CONDUITS IN PLACE, UP BY THE WELCOME CENTER. THE WELCOME CENTER NOW HAS THE CABINETS IN PLACE WITH THOSE WORDS CONNECTED. THEY NOW HAVE THE CONDUIT GOING OUT AND UP INTO THE STEEL FRAME, WHERE THE VENDOR WILL POUR THE CONCRETE PAD AND THEN FPU WILL COME OUT AND MOUNT IT. THEY DID THE LATERAL BOARD TO BRING DOWN ADDITIONAL POWER, BUT NOW WE HAVE THE HOLIDAYS, NOW WE HAVE INCLEMENT WEATHER. I MEAN, IT'S JUST ONE OF THOSE THINGS, ONCE THAT POWER IS TURNED ON, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT PAIKING CHECKS ON EVERYTHING, HAVING THE VARIOUS CITY FOLKS COME DOWN, DO THEIR CHECKLIST ON IT AND THEN WE'LL BE READY. I PERSONALLY AM LOOKING AT AN EARLIER DATE. I'M NOT GOING TO BE IN THAT POSITION WHERE I'M -- I'M GOING TO BE READY TOMORROW. >> SO WHEN THE SWITCH GETS TURNED ON, EVERYTHING GETS CHECKED OUT, WHATEVER THAT TIME FRAME IS, EXPECT -- >> I THINK IT'S GOING TO BE RELATIVELY QUICK. I DO KNOW THAT ONE OF THE CONTRACTORS THAT'S STILL ON SITE WAS SAYING THEY WANT TO BE GONE BY THE END OF THE YEAR. WHETHER THEY WILL OR NOT, I DON'T KNOW, BUT IT IS REALLY -- IT'S LIKE ANYTHING ELSE, WHEN YOU BUILD A BEAUTIFUL HOUSE, YOU DON'T SEE ANYTHING HAPPEN UNTIL THE LAST MINUTE. OKAY, NOW WE'VE GOT TO PUT THE CABINETS IN. THEY'VE ALREADY HAD SOME BUILDING INSPECTOR COME DOWN AND LOOK AT VARIOUS THINGS THAT HE HAD CONCERNS WITH AND ALL OF IT'S PASSED OFF, SO WAIT FOR THE POWER. >> PLUG IT IN -- >> JUST AN EXTENSION CORD BASICALLY, THAT'S IT. >> IS THERE AN INSPECTION, COI THAT HAS TO BE ISSUED BY THE CITY? >> THAT WILL BE BETWEEN THE PROJECT MANAGER AND THE CITY AND I'M SORRY, I DON'T KNOW, READING THROUGH THE ENTIRE CONTRACT, I'M SURE AT SO POINT IN TIME -- >> SOMEONE HAS TO SIGN OFF ON IT. >> I THINK THAT'S WHAT HELD US UP ON THE DINGHY DOCK, WAS THAT WAS STILL UNDER SOMEONE'S CONTRACT, AND UNTIL SOMEONE OFFICIALLY TOLD YOU, IT'S YOUR PROBLEM NOW, IT'S YOUR OPPORTUNITY TO REPAIR, THEN WE TOOK IT ON YOU'RE WORKING ON IT. >> GOOD. >> HEY, JOE, BEFORE YOU COME OFF THAT, YOUR RESOURCES FOR CLEANING UP, WOULD IT HELP IF YOU HAD VOLUNTEERS? >> NO. >> AND WHY WOULD THAT BE? >> THE REASON FOR THAT BEING IS, WEST TRACK IS CONTRACTED TO THE CITY TO MAINTAIN THE AREA SO THAT IF ONE OF THOSE VOLUNTEERS CAME OUT AND DIDN'T UNDERSTAND THAT A BARNACLE CAN KILL YOU, AND SCRATCHES THEIR ARM DOWN, WHO'S RESPONSIBLE? THEY'RE NOT ON OUR PAYROLL, THEY'RE NOT ON THE CITY PAYROLL. I THINK THAT'S ONE OF THOSE THINGS THAT IF YOU WANT TO -- I WOULD RECOMMEND THEY GO TO THE PARKS AND REC. BECAUSE THEY'VE GOT EVERYTHING NORTH AND SOUTH, SO FRONT CABIN, FRONT PARKING LOT 8, OUT TO THE RAILROAD TRACK IS THERE. WE'RE ON THE OTHER SIDE. IF THEY WERE TO COME IN AND KEEP THAT PART CLEAN WITH PARKS AND REC. THAT'S WHERE THE HELP WOULD COME IN. IT WOULD STILL APPEAR TO BE GETTING WORKING AT THE MARINA. >> OKAY. >> THANK YOU, JOE. PAUL, YOU HAVE SOME MATTER FOR DISCUSSION? >> YEAH, JUST A COUPLE. I KNOW WE'RE IN THE HOLIDAY SEASON AND EVERYBODY WANTS TO GET OUT, BUT THEY ARE IMPORTANT TO ME, THERE'S TWO THINGS THAT I'VE SEEN LATELY THAT -- >> YOUR EMAIL IS UP THERE. >> SOME OF IT, I DIDN'T EXPLAIN, I DON'T THINK THAT WELL. I WAS TRYING TO GET OUT THAT EMAIL REAL QUICK. AND I REALLY DIDN'T KNOW IF THEY WERE WORTHY FOR AN AGENDA ITEM OR JUST AN DISCUSSION PIECE. SO THE FIRST ONE IS, I WANT TO MAKE SURE ON THE NEXT AGENDA, THAT WE DO GET THE DRN RAMP ON THE AGENDA. IT GOT BO BROUGHT UP FROM COLEMN AND I KNOW MR. WILLIAMS MENTIONED ABOUT THAT THERE'S NOT THIS DECREASING PUBLIC ACCESS, AND THEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT MAYBE POSSIBLY PUTTING IN PARKS AND REC. AND IT NEEDS REPAIR. I'VE BEEN IN GOVERNMENT FOR A WHILE AND I KNOW ONCE YOU START SETTING CONVERSATIONS INTO PLACE, THEY HAVE A TENDENCY TO MOVE SOMETIMES THERE AND I WANT TO MAKE SURE, IS THAT AN ITEM THAT WE'RE SERIOUSLY TALKING ABOUT, PUTTING IN PARKS AND REC., AND WHY -- WILL IT BE IN THE BEST INTEREST OF THE MARINA, WILL IT BE THE IN THE BEST INTEREST OF THE PUBLIC, WILL IT BE IN THE BEST INTEREST OF ACCESS. I DO NOT WANT TO CHALLENGE MR. -- BUT HE DID TALK ABOUT WHERE THERE IS NOT A DECREASE IN [00:50:01] PUBLIC ACCESS, BUT WHEN I LOOK AT STUFF THAT'S OUT THERE, ONLY STUFF THAT I CAN FIND, I FIND THAT THERE IS A SIGNIFICANT DECREASE IN PUBLIC ACCESS IN RELATION TO THE AMOUNTS OF BOATS THAT ARE REGISTERED FOR THE PUBLIC. SO I DO WANT THE PUBLIC RAMP ON THE AGENDA NEXT MEETING. WE DON'T HAVE TO DISCUSS IT NOW. >> YEAH, I THINK THAT'S A GREAT IDEA. >> ESPECIALLY NOW WITH THE WATERFRONT ALSO, THE WATERFRONT PARK, PARKING, ALL THE THINGS THAT ARE OUT THERE, ALL THE DIFFERENT STAKEHOLDERS THAT ARE OUT THERE, PEOPLE WANTING PIECES OF REAL ESTATE, I CAN SEE WHERE THAT CAN BE ONE WHERE -- IT'S PRETTY HOT FOR ME, AND YOU KNOW, WHERE FOLKS I WOULD THINK WOULD WANT TO GET IT CHOPPED AWAY. SO I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE THAT AS A SERIOUS DISCUSSION. THAT'S NUMBER ONE. THE OTHER ONES ARE KIND OF JUST LIKE -- THIS ONE HERE, I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU SOLVE THIS. BUT YOU KNOW, SOCIAL MEDIA WORKS GREAT WHEN WE FEEL IT WORKS GREAT FOR US. AND THEN WHAT WE DON'T -- THEN WHEN WE DON'T THINK IT'S WORKING WELL, WE TEAR IT APART. BUT SOMETIMES IT DOES SURFACE THINGS. THE OTHER THING I SAW A COUPLE WEEKS AGO, FIRST BEFORE I START, ALL THANKS TO YOU FOR EVERYBODY IN YOUR STAFF FOR MAKING THE DINGHY DOCK, HOUR THAT PIECE TRANSITIONED, IT SEEMED LIKE WE HAD SOMEBODY OUT MOUNTAIN PUBLIC MAKE A COMMENT AND IT SET SOMETHING IN MOTION THAT I CAN TELL WOULD BE PARTIALLY INVOLVED IT IN, NOT TOTALLY INVOFERLED IN IT, BUT BEING IN GOVERNMENT FOR A WHILE, I CAN TELL HOW THAT CONVERSATION WENT, HOW IT KIND OF WENT UP, IT WENT DOWNHILL, A COUPLE DIFFERENT OFFICES, A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT INDIVIDUALS. BUT I THINK WHAT IT DOES IS IT KIND OF -- WE REALLY LOOK IN THE CITY FROM THE MARINA PERSPECTIVE, THAT WE DON'T HAVE A VERY COHERENT GAME PLAN OR STYLE OF COMMUNICATION. AND JOE, YOU CAN HELP ME OR CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG ON THIS, BUT TO ME, WHEN SOMEBODY JUST SAYS, HEY, THERE'S A PROBLEM, WHY AREN'T WE DOING THIS, AND NOW THEY'RE DISCUSSING IT WITH SOMEBODY ELSE AND THEN THEY'RE DISCUSSING IT WITH ANOTHER PARTY, AND THEN YOU HAVE ANOTHER PARTY MOVE IN, AND THEN YOU HAVE A COMMISSION LAYER MOVE IN AND THEN THE CITY MANAGER, THE MARINA MANAGER. IT JUST BECOMES A WEB OF HOW DID WE GET THERE, WHY DID WE GET THERE. ESPECIALLY WHEN IT'S BEEN DISCUSSED BEFOREHAND. AND IT'S KIND OF DISCUSSED THAT IT WASN'T OPEN, AND THAT IT NOW CAN BE OPEN, AND IT JUST SEEMED LIKE IT CREATED THIS FRENZY THAT WAS UNNECESSARY. AND I THINK YOU'RE IN A TIME WHERE YOU'RE TRYING TO OPEN SOMETHING, YOU KNOW YOU'RE GOING TO GET AN INFLUX OF -- COMING IN, HOW DO WE GET OUT OF THAT. >> JUST AS A COMMENT, THAT AS FAR AS INFORMING THE LOCAL CITIZENS OF WHAT'S GOING ON IN THE MARINA, THE EASIEST WAY IS TO COME DOWN. WE HAVE A CITY WEBSITE THEY CAN LOOK AND SEE THE BASIC INFORMATION. WE'VE GOT THE FH MARINA WEBSITE THAT GIVES MORE DETAILED INFORMATION USING A BLOG THAT'S KEEPING PEOPLE UP TO DATE AS THINGS HAPPEN. WE USE FH MARINA FACEBOOK. IT'S CONSTANTLY BEING UPDATED, 14,000 FOLLOWERS, SINCE JEFF HAS BEEN THERE, HE'S REALLY INCREASED OUR FOLLOWING THERE. WE USE TWITTER. WE USE -- WE DO USE OUR LINKEDIN ACCOUNT TO GET INFORMATION OUT, AND WE ALSO HAVE A NEWSLETTER THAT GOES OUT WITH MAIL CHIMP. SO ALL THIS INFORMATION IS GOING OUT, BUT THAT DOESN'T NECESSARILY MEAN IT'S GOING TO THE FOLKS HERE LOCALLY. SO I AGREE, THERE SHOULD BE A WAY OF GETTING THAT INFORMATION OUT TO THEM AND ANY TIME I DO ANYTHINGONICS SOCIAL MEDIA, I STAY INSIDE MY OWN AREA, I'M NOT GOING TO GET IN AN ARGUING MATCH WITH ANYONE ELSE ON ANY OTHER TOPIC. IF YOU WANT TO KNOW WHAT WE'RE DOING, LOOK HERE. I'VE GOT QUITE A FEW OF THE OTHER FACEBOOK PEOPLE THAT WE LINK EACH OTHER CONSTANTLY, SO THAT WHATEVER WE'RE SAYING I'M PICKING UP, IT SEEMS TO BE WORKING, BUT PEOPLE DON'T KNOW APPARENTLY NOT WELL ENOUGH. >> I GUESS -- >> IT'S -- FAULT. >> WELL, MAYBE IT'S BECAUSE I WAS A COMMUNICATIONS MAJOR, AND PRINT MEDIA, I THINK IS SO UNDERRATED THESE DAYS, YET EVERYONE STILL TALKS ABOUT USING OUR LOCAL RESOURCE AND THAT IS, BILL, THE PRIMARY THING. WE HAD THIS DISCUSSION TALKING ABOUT THE OPENING OF THE RAMPS AND SO FORTH, REMEMBER I WAS KIND OF AGAINST IT, WITH JOE, BUT WE HAD A CONSENSUS AND THE GROUP SAID, HEY, WE WANT TO SEE [00:55:01] THIS HAPPEN, AND I SAW IN THE NEWSPAPER THAT THIS HAPPENED, SO I KIND OF FEEL LIKE WE WERE ACTUALLY HAVING AN IMPACT, WE HAD A DISCUSSION, WE HAD -- CAME OUT WITH CONSENSUS, IT WENT THROUGH OUR LOCAL MEDIA, AND NO EYE FENCE TO THE SOCIAL MEDIA, MAYBE I'M A TECHNOSAUR, BUT I THINK WE STILL HAVE THE BENEFIT OF THIS. WE CAN STILL UTILIZE THESE OTHER THINGS, BUT IF WE MAKE A GOOD CASE HERE AND WE GET GOOD REPORTING, WHICH WE DID, THAT IT WENT OUT, I KIND OF FEEL LIKE THAT WAS A SUCCESS ACTUALLY. ONE OF THE FIRST TIMES I FELT LIKE OUR CONVERSATION ACTUALLY MADE TO THE PUBLIC, IT GOT DISSEMINATED, THE COMMISSIONER, WHOEVER THE DECISION MAKER SAYS OKAY, WE SOLVE THIS, THE NEXT THING WE NO, THEY SAID, HEY, GO AHEAD WITH IT, OPEN IT UP AND WE DID. SO I FELT PRETTY POSITIVE. >> NO, NO, I FELT POSITIVE, MAYBE LET ME JUST BACK STEP A LITTLE BIT. I'M JUST TRYING TO THINK HOW DO WE CONTINUE TO GO THERE SO THAT WE DON'T HAVE THAT PROBLEM. >> WE NEED TO KEEP TALKING LIKE WE DO BUT I THINK THAT WOULD HELP, WE SAY OKAY, WHAT'S OUR CONSENSUS, WE SAID SOMETHING AND WE WENT FORWARD. I THINK WE HADN'T BEEN DOING THAT AS MUCH. IT SEEMS LIKE WE'RE STARTING TO DO BETTER. YOU'VE DRIVEN THAT A LOT AND I REALLY THINK THAT'S HELPED US SORT OF FIND OUR WAY IN COMMUNICATING. THERE MAY BE OTHER ANSWERS -- >> MY CASE WAS MORE FOR NOT REALLY US, IT WAS REALLY MORE FOR -- MAYBE -- THIS HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH US. THIS HAS TO DO WITH THE DECISION PIECE OF THE CITY WITH HOW DO WE HAVE -- IF JOE SAYS THE DINGHY DOCK IS CLOATIONED, THE DINGHY DOCK IS CLOSED. >> RIGHT. >> BUT ALL OF A SUDDEN, IT APPEARS THAT WELL MAYBE IT CAN OPEN. AND THAT'S WHERE I'M AT. I'M NOT WITH US AND HOW -- I GIVE US 100%, WE KEEP TRYING TO GET BETTER AND BETTER EVERY MEETING, EVERYTHING WE DO. AND I'M EXCITED ABOUT THAT. I'M TALKING ABOUT THE PIECE THAT -- >> HOW DID IT HAPPEN. >> YEAH. >> I THINK THIS IS JUST JIM SPRINGER'S OPINION, YOU KNOW OCCASIONALLY I HAVE ONE, AS YOU KNOW, I WAS AGAINST OPENING THE DINGHY DOCK AND OPENING THE BOAT RAMP. I HAD IN MY MIND WHAT WAS GOING TO HAPPEN. I WAS DISCUSSING IT IN ONE FLAVOR WHILE OTHER PEOPLE WERE SAYING WE SHOULDN'T DO IT, IT BECAME OBVIOUS THAT MY MARINA ADVISORY BOARD STRONGLY FELT THAT IT SHOULD BE PURSUED, OKAY? I DO WHAT I'M TOLD TO DO. I THINK THAT'S WHAT WAS EVEN IN THE PAPER. WHATEVER THE CITY TELLS ME TO DO, SHORTLY AFTER THAT, WHATEVER HAPPENED IN THE BACKGROUND, I GOT AN EMAIL FROM THE CITY MANAGER SAYING THIS IS WHAT HE WANTS TO HAVE HAPPEN, IT HAPPENED. SO WHETHER YOU WANT TO ADMIT IT OR NOT, YOU DO HAVE SOME INFLUENCE IN WHAT'S GOING ON IN THE CITY. WHAT WILL MAKE A DIFFERENCE IS WHEN WE HAVE TOPICS THAT FILLS THIS ROOM. TWO DAYS BEFORE CHRISTMAS, I'M SURPRISED YOU THREE ARE EVEN HERE. I'M SURPRISED WE'RE EVEN HERE FOR THAT MATTER. BUT I THINK AS WE START TO GET THIS THING OPEN, IT STATS STARTS GETTING SOME TRACTION, I THINK YOU'RE GOING TO FIND MORE PEOPLE COMING TO THESE MEETINGS BRINGING INFORMATION TO US. WE HAD NO ONE SPEAK TONIGHT. WHAT DID YOU HAVE LAST NIGHT, FIVE PEOPLE? THAT'S THE WAY WE'VE GOT TO DO IT IS, WE'VE GOT TO COLLECTIVELY AGREE ON WHAT IT IS WE WANT TO DO. WE MAY NOT ALWAYS AGREE, BUT IF THAT'S WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO, IT'S WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO. >> OKAY. THAT'S IT. I JUST NEED TO FEEL THAT THAT IS CHANGING. MAYBE NOT NEED TO FEEL, I NEED TO KNOW THAT THAT'S CHANGING. BECAUSE I JUST DON'T LIKE, YOU KNOW -- I JUST LOVE WHEN THAT MARINA HAS SUCH A BEAUTIFUL FACE TO IT. YOU KNOW, I JUST HATE WHEN THOSE THINGS HAPPEN. AND ACTUALLY, JOE, IT'S REALLY MORE FOR YOU, BECAUSE -- AND YOUR STAFF, BECAUSE I CAN JUST FEEL THE FRUSTRATION, YOU KNOW, BETWEEN THE PUBLIC, PROBABLY YOUR STAFF, AND HOW WE'RE RELAYING THOSE MESSAGES. I JUST WANT TO ALWAYS BE ON TOP OF THAT, FIGURE OUT HOW DO WE MAKE IT WORK BETTER. >> LET'S GO INTO ONE OF THE THINGS THAT YOU DID ASK IN THE EMAIL ABOUT THE MOORING FIELD. NOW THAT YOUR DINGHY DOCK AND RAMP IS OPEN, WHY ISN'T THE MOORING FIELD OPEN? WE INTENTIONALLY TOOK ALL OF THE TACKLE OFF OF THOSE MOORING BALLS, SO NO ONE COULD -- THERE WAS NO PLACE FOR THEM TO GO. SO THERE WAS NO REASON TO -- OKAY, NOW WE'RE TIED UP, WHAT ARE WE SUPPOSED TO DO? WE CAN'T COME TO SHORE, WE DON'T HAVE A DOCK FOR YOU. AT THAT TIME WE DIDN'T LITERALLY HAVE ONE. SO WHAT DOES IT TAKE TO DO IT? WELL, I'M HAPPY TO SAY THAT A WEEK OR SO AGO, TWO OF US JUP PED IN JUMPEDINTO THE BOAT AND F OUR MOORING BALLS THAT WAS GOING [01:00:07] OUT TO SEA. WE HAD A DIVER SCHEDULED. THE DIVER RAN INTO SOME PERSONAL PROBLEMS THAT HE COULDN'T COME OUT, BUT HE'S GOING TO TEST EVERY ONE OF THE CHAINS GOING TO THE BOTTOM. HE'S GOING TO GIVE US AN ANALYSIS OF WHAT'S GOING ON. WE HAVE TO HAVE THE PERIMETER BUOYS BACK IN PLACE SO WE CAN HAVE AN IDENTIFIED MANAGED MOORING FIELD. THEY HAVE BEEN ORDERED. ONCE WE GET THE PERIMETER BUOYS IN, WE'LL HAVE HIM INSTALL THEM ALSO. WE HAVE THE PENNANTS AND LINES IN STORAGE. WHEN WE KNOW THE CHAINS ARE SAFE, WE'LL OPEN IT BACK UP, BUT RIGHT NOW AFTER US CHASING THIS ONE DOWN THE RIVER, I'M NOT GONNA PUT ANYBODY ON A TIME FRAME ON THERE, THE PEN ANTS IS GOING TO TAKE THE LONGEST TOO TE ON IT, THE MARKER BUOYS, I THINK WE WERE TOLD ON THIS ONE THAT IT WOULD TAKE THREE WEEKS TO GET THEM. SO THESE ARE THE PERIMETER BUOYS. NOW THAT WE'VE GOT THE AREA IDENTIFIED, NOW WE CAN MAKE EVERYBODY STAY OUT. NOW WE CAN HAVE DIVERS GO DOWN, NOW WHAT THE INTENT IS AT THIS MOMENT IS WE HAVE TWO BALLS THAT AREN'T ATTACHED, THEY'RE SITTING UP IN THE MAINTENANCE AREA. OUR STAFF WILL PREPARE THEM, GET THEM READY TO GO, ALL THE TACKLE IN LINE, THE DIVER WILL GO OUT, HE'LL TELL US HOW LONG THE CHAIN IS, ON BALL NUMBER 7. HE'LL STRETCH OUT THAT MUCH CHAIN, ATTACH IT, PUT IT IN THE BOAT, HE'LL GO OUT, ONE OUT, ONE IN. FIX THAT ONE. ONE OUT, ONE IN. BUT JUST KEEP DOING THAT SO WHEN WE START TO DO THIS, IT WON'T BE A LONG PROCESS, BUT I CAN HONESTLY SAY, IF IT'S DONE BEFORE MARCH 1, I WOULD BE REALLY IMPRESSED. >> JUGS AS A JUST AS A SMALL PN WE INSTALLED THOSE, THE LIGHTS WERE NEVER REALLY THAT GOOD AND THEY TENDED TO SINK PRETTY FAST. I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S ANY WAY TO ENHANCE THOSE, MAKE THEM BIGGER? >> THIS IS SOMETHING -- WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, THE LIGHTS THEMSELF WERE IDENTIFIED AND DEFINED BY THE ORIGINAL MOORING FIELD AGREEMENT, THIS COLOR, THIS VISIBLE FROM THIS DISTANCE. BUT AS YOU SAY, THE PROBLEM WAS THE BUOYS ON AN OUTGOING TIDE, BOY, THEY WOULD JUST START LEANING OVER, NEXT THING YOU KNOW, THEY'RE UNDER WATER SO YOU CAN'T SEE THEM AT ALL. TALK ABOUT THESE FOLKS, THEY HAVE COME UP WITH A BETTER DESIGN THAT NOW IT'S MORE OF A TEARDROP. SO THAT THE WATER ISN'T GOING TO CATCH THE BOTTOM OF THE BUOY AND PUSH IT OVER. WHETHWILL IT MOVE? YES. JUST BY THE CHAIN IF NOTHING ELSE, BUT THE RESULT -- THE EFFECT WON'T BE AS STRONG ON THE NEW PERIMETER BUOYS AS IT WAS ON THE OTHER ONES. BUT YOU ARE RIGHT, THEY STAYED LIT, THEY WERE JUST UNDER WATER. >> RIGHT. >> AND THEY WEREN'T VERY BRIGHT. >> THAT'S REQUIRED. I MEAN, IT SAYS YOU SHALL HAVE THESE MARKERS WITH THIS COLOR THAT'S VISIBLE FROM HERE. >> THAT'S THE STATE -- THE ONLY REASON I'M SAYING, THAT BACK LIGHTING AT NIGHT, EVEN - WELL, THEN AGAIN THE COAST GUARD MARKERS, YOU CAN BARELY SEE THEM. SO I'M DON'T KNOW -- >> I PROVIDED JOE WITH ALL THE FORMS AD EVERYTHING FOR THE COAST GUARD TO MARK ALL THOSE POINTS AND AS SOON AS THEY'RE MARKED, I'VE GOT A TEAM READY TO GO IN TO CERTIFY EVERY ONE OF THEM WITH THE COAST GUARD. SO I'M JUST WAITING FOR HIM, THE PAPERWORK. >> IT'S ANOTHER ONE OF THESE THINGS, BOY, YOU TALK ABOUT THIS ONION AND PULLING BACK A LAYER AND SEEING ANOTHER LAYER AND PULLING BACK A LAYER, WHEN SOMEONE COMES IN AND SAYS THIS IS WHAT YOU NEED TO DO, WAIT A MINUTE, I CAN GO 200 STEPS THAT DIRECTION AND 200 STEPS THAT DIRECTION, WHY THIS HAS TO BE DONE AT THIS TIME. OPEN THE PLO MOORING FIELD, GRE, LET'S OPEN IT TOMORROW, OH, WAIT, PUT THE TACKLE ON, WAIT, WE DON'T KNOW IF THE CHAINS ARE GOOD, GET THE BUOYS, THAT TAKES THREE WEEKS TO COME IN. IT'S ONE OF THESE THINGS THAT -- IT TAKES AN AWFUL LOT TO MANAGE THE ROUTINE MAINTENANCE OF THAT MARINA. OF. >> SO QUICK QUESTION, JOE, AND I KNOW AGAIN IT'S GOING TO THE HOUSE AND ASKING, BUT WE GOT ALL THAT INFORMATION, WE KNOW THAT. NOW HOW QUICK CAN YOU GET THAT OUT TO THE PUBLIC ABOUT THE MOORING FIELD? LIKE WHATLIKE WHAT NEEDS TO BE ? >> WHEN YOU COME BACK IN HERE FRIDAY, I'LL BE HERE TUESDAY, THURSDAY AND FRIDAY, I'LL RE-ADDRESS AN EMAIL TO EACH OF YOU ANSWERING THAT QUESTION SO THAT IT WILL BE IN ALL OF MY AREA THAT I SAID THAT I USE, YOU CAN THEN PUT IT ON ANY AREA THAT YOU WANT TO, HE CAN GET TO THE COAST GUARD, HE CAN GET IT ON HIS WEBSITE, WHOEVER WANTS TO DO WHAT, NOW WE'RE ALL SAYING THE SAME WORDS. >> OKAY. >> THAT WAS THE DEAL WITH THE MARINA OPENING, WHY WAS IT MARCH? BECAUSE WE HAD TO HAVE A DATE. I WAS GOING DOWN TO THE PRESS CONFERENCE, I HAD TO HAVE A DATE THAT EVERYONE AGREED ON. EARLY, LATER, HERE'S THE DAY. SAME THING WE DO WITH THIS, THE MOORING FIELD IS SCHEDULED TO [01:05:02] OPEN ON -- THE STEPS REQUIRE BEING HANDLED IN THIS -- AND I THINK YOU LIST OUT WHAT DO WE HAVE TO DO TO OPEN NOW. >> YEAH, DATES ARE -- THIS IS THE SEQUENCE OF EVENTS THAT HAS TO HAPPEN TO GET THE MOORING FIELD OPEN AND CHECK WE'VE DONE THIS, WE'VE DONE THIS, WE'VE DONE THIS, THIS IS WHAT'S LEFT TO DO. YOU'LL HAVE THAT BY FRIDAY. >> OKAY. >> IT MIGHT BE GOOD INFORMATION. >> [INAUDIBLE] >> HE'S MISSING A DAY THIS WEEK. DARN IT. >> AND JOE, WHERE I WAS LEADING UP TO -- >> HE USED TO CALL ME 11 BECAUSE I WAS NEVER ON TIME. >> JOE, I GUESS WHAT I'M LEADING UP TO IS, I'M NOT SAYING FOR THE COMMUNITY JUST TO VOLUNTEER, BUT SOMETIMES A VERY SIMPLE THING, IF YOU DID NEED A VOLUNTEER ON ANY OF YOUR SOCIAL MEDIA, SOMEONE TO COME IN LIKE ON A TUESDAY OR THURSDAY, BEGINNING OF THE WEEK, THE END OF THE WEEK, YOU KNOW, I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING SIMPLE, YOU KNOW, THAT WE COULD DO. IF IT HELPS. ESPECIALLY DURING THIS TIME. >> WELL, JEFF IS DOING A GOOD JOB SO FAR. >> YEAH, IF YOU'VE GOT PEOPLE THAT ARE DOING IT, THEN I'M JUST SAYING -- BUT I'M SAYING IF YOU GET STUCK, LIKE YOU MENTIONED, YOU KNOW, WITH THE GARBAGE, YOU KNOW, SOMETIMES YOU JUST GET SHORT, THERE'S ONLY A WINDOW OF OPPORTUNITY HERE. >> YOU HAVE A GREAT RESOURCE, I MEAN, THAT'S CERTAINLY SOMETHING I WOULD SAY TAKE ADVANTAGE. >> YOU KNOW JEFF? >> I ALWAYS [INAUDIBLE] >> THAT'S RIGHT. >> DON'T TELL HIM. >> THE QUOTE WILL BE -- PLEASE, YES, DO THAT. >> THAT WILL BE THE HEAD LINE. >> I KNOW THIS IS JUST GOING TO BE A BUSY TRANSITION THING AND I THINK JUST THE MOST THAT YOU COMMUNICATE THE MOST, IT STIFLES -- I USED TO BE A STAFF FOR SOMEBODY AND THE BIGGEST THING THAT HELPED ME AS A STAFFER FOR SOMEBODY THAT NEEDED HIGH INTEL INFORMATION WAS ALWAYS JUST -- I KEPT THAT CYCLE OF INFORMATION JUST KEEP GOING. I NEVER PUT -- I NEVER TRIED TO PUT MYSELF IN A POSITION WHERE THAT PERSON HAS TO ASK A QUESTION. AND THEN IT JUST KEEPS THAT TENSION DOWN. >> ONE OF THE THINGS YOU SAID IN THAT EMAIL ALSO WAS HOW CAN THIS GROUP GET BETTER ACQUAINTED OR HAVE BETTER KNOWLEDGE OF WHAT'S GOING ON, I'M THERE MONDAY THROUGH FRIDAY, 8:00 IN THE MORNING UNTIL 4:30 IN THE AFTERNOON. ALL IT TAKES IS, HEY, ARE YOU GONNA BE AROUND TOMORROW AT 2:00? COME IN, WE'LL SIT DOWN, TALK FOR 30 MINUTES, ONE ON ONE, GET QUESTIONS ANSWERED, BECAUSE JOE WANTS TO KNOW SOMETHING THAT SCOTT DOESN'T REALLY CARE ABOUT, SCOTT WANTS TO KNOW SOMETHING YOU DON'T CARE ABOUT. >> THAT COULD BE A PROBLEM MAYBE I TOOK TO HEART, BECAUSE I KNOW WHEN I TRIED TO REACH OUT TO THE PROGRAM MANAGER, THE PROJECT MANAGER, YOU KNOW, WE CAN COME TO YOU? >> OH, ABSOLUTELY. >> ALL RIGHT. >> WORST THING, I'LL SAY I DON'T KNOW. >> I DIDN'T WANT -- >> WE CAN MEET AS OFTEN AS WE WANT TO. IT'S JUST WHERE WE GET A GROUP WND ARE YOU A MEET AMONGST YOURSELVES. I HAVE NO PROBLEM IF YOU FEEL THE NEED FOR ME TO SET A DATE AND TIME THAT THIS IS OPEN DOOR POLICY, YOU KNOW, I WANT YOU TO -- I WANT YOU TO HAVE THE INFORMATION. >> ALL RIGHT. >> ANYONE ELSE? JOE? >> COUPLE THINGS. WHAT'S THE CURRENT STATUS ON THE SIGN, EVEN THOUGH ALL THE PAPERWORK IS REQUIRED IN MINUTIA TO GET A SIGN IN THERE? >> YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT FOR THE -- >> YES. >> THAT PAPERWORK HAS BEEN SUBMITTED TO THE CITY, THE CITY HAS WORKED WITH JEFF TO FIND OUT WHAT WAS REQUIRED FOR IT, AND NOW IT'S GONE TO THE -- TO ENSURE THAT IT COMPLIES WITH THEIR RULES AND REGULATIONS. SO IT IS IN WORK. >> IN WORK. OKAY. AND MARCH 1ST, ASSUMING THAT'S A GOOD DATE, RIGHT, THE GAS PUMPS WILL BE WORKING, YES OR NO? >> YES, SIR. >> AND THE PUMPOUT WILL BE WORKING, YES OR NO? >> YES. >> BECAUSE IT'S REAL HARD TO HAVE A MOORING FIELD WITHOUT A PUMP OUT, UNLESS -- >> THEY SOMEHOW OR ANOTHER HAD IT WORKING THIS MORNING A LITTLE BIT, MAKING NOISES. >> I JUST WANTED TO KNOW EXACTLY -- >> THE PUMOUT IS TART OF THE -- IT'S PUT THERE AND ALREADY PREPLUMBED TO GO TO THE FUEL DOCK ITSELF. THE FUEL DOCK IS A SEPARATE ENTITY ALL IN ITSELF, THE NORTHERN PART OF IT, AND THE BIDS WERE OPEN TODAY AT 2:00. THERE WERE FOUR PEOPLE WHO PROVIDED A BID TO IT. NOW THAT'S BEING REVIEWED BY THE PROJECT MANAGEMENT TEAM FOR THE NEXT STEP AVAILABLE. THERE IS NOT A SPECIFIC HARD DATE OF WHEN THAT'S TO BE DONE. THEY AREN'T AT THAT POINT YET. THEY HAD TO COME UP WITH A PROPER VETTER WHO COULD DO THE THINGS AND NOW IT WILL GET INTO THE CONTRACTING. I DO THINK THAT THERE WERE SOME LEARNING CURVE THAT WAS INVOLVED [01:10:03] IN A LOT OF THIS THAT A COUPLE OF QUICK STUDIES HAVE PICKED UP ON REAL SOON THAT THERE ARE THINGS THAT NEED TO BE -- IN THE CONTRACT AND THINGS THAT NEED TO BE SURE NOT HAVE IN THE CONTRACT, SO I'M THINKING IT WILL GO A LOT SMOOTHER FOR THEM THIS TIME. >> SO DO YOU THINK THAT THAT GAS DOCK WILL BE FINISHED BY MARCH ? >> OH, NO. BECAUSE THIS IS DECEMBER. IT'S GONNA TAKE FOUR WEEKS TO GET ON THE AGENDA ONCE A DECISION IS MADE. IT'S GOING TO TAKE FOUR WEEKS TO GET THE CONTRACTING IN PLACE, AND IT'S GOING TO TAKE FOUR WEEKS TO GET COMPONENTS COMING. THE CITY HAS ALREADY MADE ARRANGEMENTS TO PURCHASE THE DOCK. >> I THINK THEY ALREADY STARTED TO POUR. >> RIGHT. SO, I MEAN, THAT PART IS COMING, BUT PART OF THE ARRANGEMENT FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND IN THE BID PACKAGE WAS -- WELL, I KNOW AT THE PREBID MEETING, THAT YOU CAN'T START UNTIL STUFF IS HERE. WE CAN'T LEAVE THE NORTH END OF THAT MARINA EXPOSED TO THE ELEMENTS WHEN THE NOR'EASTERS ARE COMING THROUGH. >> RIGHT. >> I THINK WHAT WE OFFICIALLY SAID IN THE PRESS CONFERENCE IS THAT THE INTENT IS TO HAVE THE SOUTHERN BASIN FUNCTIONAL AND USABLE IN MARCH OF 2020 WITH THE FUEL DOCK TO FOLLOW LATER IN THE YEAR. >> I HAVE ONE OTHER COMMENT IS JOE IS FINISHED. MY WIFE OWNED A BOAT RAMP, THE NUMBER ONE THING I WOULD LIKE TO SEE, DO YOU HAVE A STATUS OR HAVE YOU HEARD ANYTHING RECENTLY FROM THE CITY ABOUT GETTING IT DONE? >> RIGHT. WHAT HE'S TALKING ABOUT IS DOWN AT THE BOAT RAMP, ONE WAS THE TWO AXLE LIMIT THAT WE'RE PUTTING THE OTHER ONE UP BUT SCOTT HAD REPEATEDLY ASKED ABOUT SOME TYPE OF SAFETY LIGHT UP THERE. WE HAD TRIED THE SOLAR MOTION. THAT WORKS WELL FOR A COUPLE OF WEEKS AND THEN IT JUST ISN'T WHAT IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE. SO WHAT I HAVE DONE IS I'VE GOTTEN WITH THE CITY ELECTRICIAN, RANDY MAXWELL, AND WE'VE AGREED THAT INSTEAD OF TRYING TO PUT ONE ANYWHERE THAT IT CAN BE BOTHERED, ADJUSTED, BROKEN, VANDALIZED, STOLEN, WHATEVER, THE INTENT IS NOW TO PUT IT ON WELCOME CENTER ROOF OR UP IN THE RAFTERS UP THERE POINTING DOWN SO IT WILL I'LL EUMILLUMINATE THE BATHROOM AREAD THE RAMP AND IT WON'T BE SOME LITTLE PINPOINT. THIS THING IS GOING TO -- IT WILL BE BRIGHT. IF YOU'VE EVER LOOKED DOWN AT THE OLD OFFICE AT NIGHT, THAT'S ABOUT HALF OF WHAT THIS ONE IS GOING TO BE. IT'S GOING TO LIGHT IT UP REAL NICE. SO YOU WILL BE SAFE, SIR. >> THANK YOU. >> TIME FRAME, I WOULD ANTICIPATE THAT -- >> I HAVE SLIPPED TWICE. >> I CAN SEE THAT COMING IN THE MONTH OF JANUARY WITHOUT A PROBLEM. >> ANYONE ELSE? DO WE HAVE A MOTION TO -- >> I'LL SECOND. MERRY CHRISTMAS. >> MERRY CHRISTMAS. >> * This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.