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>>> WE WILL CALLS A MONTHLY MEETING OF THE FIRM -- FERNANDINA BEACH GOLF ADVISORY BOARD TO ORDER AT 9 A.M. ON DECEMBER 11.

MY NAME IS HARRY KEGLER AND I AM BOARD CHAIR. I WILL DO A ROLL CALL. (ROLL CALL)

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>>HARRY KEGLER: WE WILL LOOK AT THE MINUTES THAT WERE POSTED FROM LAST MONTH'S MEETING.

I'VE MADE SOME SUGGESTIONS TO CORRECT A COUPLE OF THINGS.

UNDER 5.1 ON THE OCTOBER FINANCIALS, THERE WAS DISCUSSION OF GETTING A P&L WHICH WOULD BE A MONTH LATER THAN OUR MEETING WOULD TAKE PLACE BECAUSE IT TAKES THAT LONG TO GET THE FINANCIALS WORKED ON.

ONE OF THE THING THAT WAS LACKING IN THE MIDST WAS THAT STEVE DID SAY WE COULD DO A RECORDS REQUEST TO VIEW THEM, VERSUS HAVING THEM REPORTED AT EVERY MEETING. SO THAT WILL BE ADDED TO THE MINUTES WHEN THEY ARE -- WHEN WE FINALLY APPROVE THEM.

AND THEN UNDER NUMBER 10, UNDER PUBLIC COMMENT, THERE WAS AN ERROR IN CALLING THE ENTERPRISE FUND ZONE. SO THAT WILL BE CHANGED TO BE ENTERPRISE FUND.

>> AND HARRY, WHAT EXACTLY IS A RECORDS REQUEST?

>> THERE'S A LINK ON THE CITY'S WEBSITE CALLED RECORDS REQUEST. YOU GO IN -- IT HAS INFORMATION YOU'D LIKE TO REQUEST. IT'S A SIMPLE PROCESS.

>> HAVE YOU DONE IT. >> NO BECAUSE I DON'T WANT

RECORDS REQUEST FOR MYSELF. >> I'M WONDERING HOW EASY IT IS. I SOMETIMES HAVE PROBLEMS WITH THAT WEBSITE.

>> IT'S PRETTY SIMPLE. I WALKED A COUPLE PEOPLE THROW IT.

>> OKAY. >> IT IS NOT DIFFICULT.

>> I MAKE A MOTION WE APPROVE THE MINUTES WITH THE ALTERATIONS I MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE MINUTES WITH THE ALTERATIONS.

>> ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. >> THANK YOU. WE WILL GO TO

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OLD BUSINESS. >> THIS IS GOING TO BE REALLY QUICK. NEXT MONTH WE WILL HAVE A PRESENTATION -- (INDISCERNIBLE) -- AND THEN PROBABLY THE NEXT COMMISSION MEETING, THE COMMISSIONERS WILL SEE THAT.

THAT'S THE PATH WE ARE TAKING RIGHT NOW. PENDING THIS BOARD'S APPROVAL OF IT.

>> SO WE WILL HAVE A PRESENTATION MADE TO US?

>> YES. >> SO WE CAN SEE WHAT THE

OPTIONS ARE? >> YES.

>> EXCELLENT. >> I GUESS -- THAT KNOWING OTHER THAN SOME OF THE TOP TRACER STUFF THAT WAS THROWN OUT,

>> IT WILL BE INCLUDED IN THE PRESENTATION. -- I DON'T SEE WHERE THERE IS A

GREAT DEMAND. >> YOU WILL SEE THAT IN THE

PRESENTATION, TOO. >> OKAY.

>> WE ARE COMPILING NUMBERS AS TO --

>> YOU ARE WORKING WITH DIFFERENT GROUPS IN THE CITY INTEGER.

>>. >> WITH THE CITY MANAGER. AND IT SHOWS WHERE THE GROWTH IN THE GOLF INDUSTRY ACTUALLY IS. AND IT'S IN THE BOWLING ALLEY

CONCEPT. >> ACTUALLY, THERE HAD BEEN -- IT ONE OF THE CITY COUNCIL MEETINGS THERE HAD BEEN A PRIEST -- PRESENTATION BY STAN PTAK THAT ACTUALLY INTRODUCED A NUMBER OF THINGS THAT.

>> YES. >> THAT WOULD INDICATE THE

VALUE. >> THERE'S ACTUALLY DATA AND MARKET RESEARCH THAT WILL SHOW YOU WHERE THE GROWTH IS IN THIS INDUSTRY.

>> AND THE TERM USED WAS, BOWLING ALLEY CONCEPT?

>> IT'S CONSIDER THE BOWLING ALLEY OF THIS GENERATION. THE SPORT THAT YOU ARE DOING YOU CAN DRINK WHILE YOU'RE DOING IT.

>> I WOULD LIKE TO SEE EVERYTHING IT OFFERS AND -- THAT'S THE ONLY WAY I CAN GET A FULL UNDERSTANDING OF IT FROM LITTLE BITS I HEAR.

>> EXACTLY. >> AND I REALLY -- UNTIL I SEE EVERYTHING, NOT GOING TO REALLY TALK IT UP MUCH BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW WHAT ALL I'M TALKING ABOUT

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BECAUSE I DON'T UNDERSTAND. SO I DO NOT WANT TO SET UP A PRECEDENT OR A MINDSET FOR SOME OF THE GOAL FOR FOLKS TO GET AN OPINION ON IT UNTIL WE HEAR IT AND WE CAN SUPPORTED.

>> I WOULD ENCOURAGE THE REST OF THE BOARD TO DO THE SAME.

>> ESPECIALLY IF YOU USE THE TERM, BOWLING ALLEY CONCEPT. THE OLDER GENERATIONS REMEMBERS THE SMOKE IN THE BOWLING. I CAN BE PART OF THAT, TO (LAUGHING).

>> AND JUST TO TOUCH ON A LITTLE OTHER OLD BUSINESS, I WASN'T GOING TO TALK ABOUT IT BUT THE NEW POS SYSTEM WAS INSTALLED WE WENT LIVE ON 14 OCTOBER. AND THERE IS SOME GROWING PAINS WITH IT IN SOME CONTINUED GROWING PAINS THAT WILL LINGER ON. THE BIGGEST ISSUE WE HAVE NOW IS THE NUMBERS AT SOME OF OUR MEMBERS HAVE ON THE MEMBERSHIP CARDS ARE NOT UNIQUE. BECAUSE ALL THE BILLING COURSES ARE IN THE SAME PROGRAM.

YOU CAN SCAN A CARD AT THE REGISTER AND HE COMES UP SOMEONE FROM DALTON HIGHLANDS.

SO THERE ARE THINGS THAT I HAVE REQUESTED FROM BILLY CASPER AS WELL AS GOLF NOW THAT WE -- SO WE CAN MAKE THESE NUMBERS UNIQUE AND THAT SHOULD HAPPENING RIGHT AROUND INTO THE YEAR OR THE FIRST PART OF JANUARY. IT'LL BE A NUISANCE FOR ABOUT THREE WEEKS UNTIL EVERYBODY THAT IS A MEMBER GETS THE NEW CARD. BUT IN THE LONG RUN IT WILL BE HELPFUL.

>> IS GOLF NOW THE SOFTWARE. >> YES. IT'S CALLED G 1, GOLF ONE. AND YOU KNOW SIX MONTHS FROM NOW EVERYONE WILL LOVE IT. THE GROWING PAINS ARE INSTALLING A WHOLE NEW POINT-OF-SALE SYSTEM WE'VE BEEN USING THE SAME ONE FOR 10 YEARS. THE PEOPLE BEHIND THE COUNTER ARE LEARNING IT. I'M GETTING LESS AND LESS PHONE CALLS LEFT -- AT NIGHT AND GETTING LESS REQUEST NEEDING HELP.

>> I DO NOT THINK I HAD THE CONVERSATION WITH YOU OR DID I, BUT JOHN MENTIONED USING BOOK

MONEY FOR ENTRY. >> UH-UH (AFFIRMATIVE).

>> AND THAT IS GOING TO BE FINE?

>> ALREADY DONE. >> BUT I HAVE TO COORDINATE

WITH YOU. >> IT'S ALREADY DONE. JOHN

LAPEER USES BOOK MONEY. >> I'M NOT INVOLVED WITH THAT

ONE. >> IT'S ARTY TAKEN CARE OF. I WENT TO G1 AND SAID THIS IS WHAT I NEED TO DO. IS IT OKAY.

>> I THINK IT'S OKAY. >> AND IT GOES IN THE SOFTWARE.

IT WAS ALREADY THAT THE PAST. I HAD A PROBLEM ON HOW THE PROCESS TO MAKE SURE EVERY ACCOUNT GOT CORRECTED. IT'S ALL TAKEN CARE OF NOW.

>> SUITE. >> OKAY. I'M GOING TO MAKE A COMMENT ABOUT SOMETHING IN OLD BUSINESS THAT VIA DELRAY ROAD. I WROTE A LETTER TO THE CITY MANAGER AND I SUGGESTED THAT SINCE THE PROPERTY WAS NOT PART OF THE GOLF COURSE THAT I DID NOT FEEL THAT WE SHOULD HAVE THE RESPONSIBILITY TO TAKE CARE OF THAT. AND HE HAS SINCE GONE OVER TO THE GOLF COURSE AND REVIEWED THE WHOLE AREA AND TOLD ME AFTER HE HAD THAT VISIT OVER THERE, THAT HE WAS IN AGREEMENT AND THAT THE GOLF COURSE SHOULD NOT TAKE CARE OF THAT AREA ANYMORE. AND THAT THE AREA AT THE END OF THE STREET, IT HAS BEEN DEFINED AS AN AREA WHERE PEOPLE ARE TO DUMP THEIR REFUGE, THEIR BRANCHES AND THINGS LIKE THAT TO BE PICKED UP. THAT WAS A SPECIFIC AREA DEFINED. AND SO, THERE REALLY IS NOTHING ELSE AT THE GOLF COURSE HAS TO BE INVOLVED IN EITHER ONE OF THOSE AREAS.

>> ANY OTHER OLD BUSINESS? >> I DON'T UNDERSTAND THE PROCESS AND IT'S PROBABLY MY UNDERSTANDING. BUT FROM A BOARD PROCESS, WHERE DO WE INTERVENE WITH THE CITY MANAGER TO GET A RESOLUTION DONE THAT THE GOLF COURSE -- I MEAN HOW ARE WE THE IN BETWEEN MAN TO RESOLVE THE SITUATION. WHAT IS OUR RESPONSIBILITY COME INTO

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HANDLE THAT? I MEAN I KNOW MY CAME UP AND MADE THE REQUEST, BUT WHERE ARE WE THE RESOLUTION

-- RESOLUTION POINT IS A HOUSE. >> WELL ONCE WE AGREE THAT I WOULD WRITE TO THE CITY MANAGER AND SUGGESTED THAT NOT BE THE RESPONSIBILITY OF THE GOLF COURSE, I DID. AND HE GAVE ME A RESPONSE.

>> SO WE WERE THE MIDDLEMAN. >> I THINK IT WORKED FINE.

>> IT WORKED GREAT. THE TERM RESOLUTION SHOULD NOT BE USED IN THE CONTEXT BECAUSE AS FAR AS THE CITY RESOLUTION IS SOMETHING THAT THEY HOLD ONTO AND THIS IS AN INTERNAL MATTER OF OUR DEPARTMENTS VERSUS SOMETHING THAT THE CITY THAT THE CITY HAS TO CREATE A

RESOLUTION FOR. >> OKAY.

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>> I UNDERSTAND YOUR CONTEXT AND USING THE TERM, RESOLUTION, BUT --

>> UNDERSTOOD. >> THAT PROBABLY SHOULD NOT BE

USED. >> OKAY. OKAY. THANKS.

>> NEW BUSINESS. >> :GOING TO PRESENT THE FINANCIALS, BUT I WAS WAITING FOR THE FINANCIALS TO BE FINISHED. BUT NOW I GUESS I SHOULD HAVE GONE ON MY REGULAR REPORTING JUST ON THE REGULAR ONE. SO NEXT MONTH YOU HAVE

BOTH MONTHS. >> MGA.

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>> MGA I HAVEN'T BEEN PLAYING WITH THEM SINCE I'VE BEEN SICK SO I DON'T HAVE A CURRENT DATE.

UPDATE. IS THE RETURN BECOMING A.

>> THIS SATURDAY IS THE CHRISTMAS TOURNAMENT WITH THE WOMEN. I THINK IT'S GOING GOOD

LAST I HEARD WAS 44 PLAYERS. >> 44 PLAYERS, 64 DINNER.

>> AND THAT'S ONLY 14? >> THIS SATURDAY, STARTS AT

12:30 P.M. >> OKAY.

>> THEN WE WILL HAVE A TOURNAMENT ON JANUARY 11. IT'S A SATURDAY. IT WILL BE A TWO MAN SCRAMBLE. AND I TALKED -- IT'S SCHEDULED FOR 9:00 O'CLOCK. THE FLYER HAS ME GOING OUT. I'M GOING TO WAIT TO SEND IT OUT SUNDAY NIGHT AFTER THE CHRISTMAS TOURNAMENT. BUT IT WILL PROBABLY BE A 9:00 O'CLOCK TWO MAN SCRAMBLE.

>> ON THE 14TH, -- THAT'S A 12:00 O'CLOCK START.

>> A 1230 START. WHEN DO WE ANTICIPATE THAT EATING.

>> 430. >> NORMALLY YOU WILL EAT AT 530

WERE SIX. >> NO ENDING.

>> ENDING I THOUGHT YOU SAID EATING.

>> ENDING. I'M JUST TRYING TO DETERMINE IF I COULD MAYBE PLAN THAT. I HAVE SOMETHING LATER.

>> THE ENTRIES ARE CLOSE. >> THAT HELPS MY DECISION.

>> (LAUGHING). >> BUT I STILL GOT TIME TO MAKE

THE JANUARY DECISION, DON'T I. >> OKAY.

>> AND THEN FEBRUARY 1 WILL BE A SUPER BOWL TOURNAMENT.

>> OKAY. AND THAT'S -- YOU HAVE ANYTHING FROM THE ASSOCIATION MEMBER PERSPECTIVE?

>> NOW THAT'S OKAY. THAT'S ALL OF GOD. ÃGOT.

>> WE ARE STILL LOOKING FOR A GOLF COURSE ADVISORY BOARD MEMBER.

>> KEEP LOOKING. STEVE MENTIONED THAT IT WAS ANNOUNCE .

>> IT WAS ANNOUNCED AT THE CITY I DIDN'T STAY UP TO FIGURED OUT.

>> IT NEEDS TO BE A CITY RESIDENT THAT PLAYS GOLF ãYOU DON'T HAVE TO PLAY GOLF. IT'S NOT A PREREQUISITE, BUT IT'S PREFERRED.

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>> OKAY. >> WELL, THE ONLY THING THAT I HEARD RECENTLY -- THIS WAS AS OF YESTERDAY, THE GREENS, WHAT'S HAPPENING WITH THE GREENS? WHAT'S GOING ON WITH THEM.

>> THE GREENS ARE GREAT. >> OR FAST.

>> THERE IN NORTHEAST FLORIDA. >> IS THAT RIGHT?

>> YES. I WASN'T OUT THERE. >> THEIR TRUE, THEIR SMOOTH AND

THERE FASTER. >> THERE GOOD. ALL RIGHT THEN.

TAKE THAT BACK. >> WHAT ARE THEY SAYING.

>> THEY ARE SAYING THAT THEY NEED TO BE FIXED. THEY ARE NOT PAST BUT THEY'RE NOT THAT GOOD.

>> I PLAYED SUNDAY AND I THOUGHT THEY WERE FABULOUS.

>> THAT'S FOR MARY POOLE. >> A HEAVY PUTTER. YOU HAVE A HEAVY PUTTER. IT'S HARD TO SLOW THEM DOWN.

>> SHE SAID SHE LIKES FAST GREENS BUT.

>> OKAY. THAT -- I WAS JUST RELYING.

>> IF ANYBODY ASKS THE GREENS YOU ARE PUTTING -- 12.

>> 12 OKAY. >> AND THAT'S HI, IS NIKKI.

>> OKAY. >> THAT'S JUST SHY OF -- LIKE I

SAID, I WASN'T OUT THERE. >> THEY ARE RECEPTIVE AND THE BRAKES ARE TRUE. THEY ARE FAST.

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>> OKAY. THANK YOU. >> WHAT WERE THEY RUNNING ON THE METER YESTERDAY -- THE OTHER DAY.

>> 12. >> A BUNCH OF US WERE PLAYING AT OAK MARSHALL ON MONDAYS IT'S NICE. IT'S DIFFICULT GREENS BUT OURS ARE RIGHT THERE WITH

THEM. FASTER. >> I'VE BEEN TOLD BY PEOPLE THAT PLAY THE RIVER THAT OUR GREENS ARE FABULOUS.

>> I AGREE. >> ANYTHING ELSE.

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>> NO. THAT'S IT. >> WE WILL MOVE TO THE

MARKETING UPDATE. >> OKAY.

>> THE FIRST ONE IS THE -- (INDISCERNIBLE) -- THAT'S A SLOW TIME IN THE AFTERNOON. SO EVERY YEAR IT GETS BETTER AND BETTER AND I THINK THIS YEAR TWILIGHT IS UP CLOSE TO SIX PERCENT OVER LAST YEAR. SINCE OCTOBER 1. IT'S NICE TO SEE. AND THE NEXT ONE IS JUST OUR HOLIDAY HOURS THAT'S GOING OUT THREE TIMES BETWEEN NOW AND CHRISTMAS. WE CLOSED CHRISTMAS EVE AT 1:00 O'CLOCK -- EXACTLY 2:00 O'CLOCK BUT FOR PURPOSES OF THIS 1:00 O'CLOCK SO THAT PEOPLE COME IN ON THE 15TH AND STILL PLAY.

>> AND THEY WILL BE CLOSED ON CHRISTMAS DAY. AND THEN THREE ROUNDS OF GOLF FOR $99. I'VE ALREADY SOLD FOR OF THESE PACKAGES IN THE EMAIL JUST ONE HOUR ON MONDAY.

>> ONE OBSERVATION I HAD, IS I WORK PART-TIME AS A STARTER ON MONDAY AND WEDNESDAYS. AND TWO THINGS. ONE, A LOT OF PEOPLE TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THE 1:00 O'CLOCK AND 3:00 O'CLOCK PRICE CHANGE I MEAN YOU -- UNLESS YOU SEE IT, YOU DO NOT REALIZE THAT HOW SIGNIFICANT IT IS. PEOPLE COME IN AND LIKE YOU GET A RUSH FOR 30 MINUTES OR SO OF PEOPLE WANTING TO USE THE COURSE. AND SUCH THAT YOU NEED TO JUGGLE THE -- THE STARTER, YOU NEED TO JUGGLE WHERE YOU PLACE THEM OR INSTRUCT THEM BECAUSE SOMETIMES YOU HAVE CONFLICTS WITH AVAILABILITY.

BUT WHEN WE WENT DOWN TO 18 HOLES BECAUSE OF THE THREE WEEKS OF SKIING, WE HAD BACKUPS AND IT REALLY WAS A CHALLENGE TO GET PEOPLE OFF FAST LIKE WE NORMALLY DO ARE TIMELY WE NORMALLY DO. UNNECESSARILY FAST. AND SO, IF IT CAME UP, I WAS MADE AWARE JUST BY HOW IMPORTANT THAT EXTRA NINE IS TO US. THAT EXTRA NINE ALLOWS US TO ACCOMMODATE PUBLIC REQUESTS SO THAT THEY CAN PLAY WHEN I WANT TO PLAY. NOT NECESSARILY LIKE A REGULAR 18 COURSE. AND YOU NEED TO WAIT 45 MINUTES BEFORE TEATIME BUT THE START AND AT THE TIME IN WHICH THEY

BOOK. IF YOU HAVE A 115 BLOCK. >> AND SOME OF THE CHALLENGE I

FACED. >> IT WAS A DIFFICULT THREE

WEEKS. >> I WANTED TO PLAY. I WAS JUST MADE AWARE OF THE TIME WE HAD TO PLAY.

>> (INDISCERNIBLE). >> SO IS THERE A DEAL AT 1:00

O'CLOCK AND A DELIGHT. >> THE TWILIGHT STARTS AT 1:00

O'CLOCK. >> I THOUGHT YOU SAID 3:00

O'CLOCK. >> O'CLOCK THERE'S A 15 THERE'S

A $15 NINE-HOLE RATE. >> OKAY. THE OTHER PART OF THAT IS FOR THE STARTER TO PAIR TWO SUMS UP WITH EACH OTHER AND SEND THEM OUT AS A FOURSOME RATHER THAN HAVE A STRING OF TWO-PSALMS WITH A FOUR SOME BEHIND THEM.

>> FROM A TEATIME PERSPECTIVE YOU MIGHT HAVE TO TO SOME ONE TEATIME AND -- IT'S GETTING SO BUSY AND YOU GET THEM TO PLAY AS A FOR SOME.

>> AND IT'S JUST -- ANY OTHER 18-HOLE COURSE, YOU WOULD FIND THAT IF YOU CHECKED IN THEY WOULD WANT TO PAIR YOU WITH SOMEBODY ELSE TO KEEP THE COURSE MOVING AND TO KEEP THE COURSE FULL. IMPORTANTLY, SINCE WE HAD 39'S, IT'S EASIER TO AVOID --

>> THAT EXTRA NINE ALLOWS YOU TO SEND THE NINE-HOLE PLAYERS OUT ON THE COURT.

>> ABSOLUTELY. >> THAT'S IT. SORRY.

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>> DAVID, >> WE WERE ABLE TO GET ALL 39 SUPERSEDED WE FINISHED UP LAST WEEK. WE WERE COMING IN. THE OTHER TWO N. AND SOUTH ARE

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LOOKING GOOD. WE HAVE SOME EXTRA -- WERE GOING TO SEE FOR SOME SPOTS ARE IN ANOTHER WEEK OR TWO. AND THERE WERE GOING TO HIT SOME OF THE FAIRWAYS ON THE LEFT TO HELP WITH SEATING.

>> ARE ALL 39'S OPEN. >> ALL 390 BEEN. I'VE ALREADY SCHEDULED NEXT YEAR SO WE WON'T HAVE ANY ISSUES WITH ANY DELAYS FOR THANKSGIVING ALL 39'S WILL

BE OPEN AND BLACK FRIDAY. >> AND NOW WE ARE IN THE PROCESS OF FINISHING UP -- OR STARTING ON CUTTING DOWN THE OLD DEAD TREES FROM LAST YEAR

AND PICK UP THE STUMPS. >> ANY OTHER COMMENTS.

>> (MULTIPLE SPEAKERS) EVERYTHING IS GOOD.

>> THEY ARE. >> I SAW THE TRACTOR OUT THERE

FOR WEEK. IS THAT HOURS. >> YES. WE HAD A STARTER WENT

BAD ON IT. >> AND THE ONE THAT WAS -- WE ORDERED WAS SHIPPED FROM OVERSEAS WE SENT TO THE LITTLE COMPANY AND HAD TO SEND THE OTHER ONE OUT TO US. SO ONCE WE RECEIVED A NEW ONE IT ONLY TOOK AN HOUR HAVE TO FIX THEM.

>> I HAVE A QUESTION MAYBE IT'S MORE STEPHEN YOU DAVID, BUT ALL THAT EQUIPMENT, IS THAT OWNED BY THE GOLF COURSE IN THE MAINTENANCE AREA.

>> YES. >> YOU RENT THE GOLF CARTS.

>> WE ONLY GOLF COURSE. >> THIS TIME WAS A PURCHASE.

>> ALWAYS BEEN PURCHASES. >> BUT ALL THAT EQUIPMENT, WHICH MUST BE WORTH HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS, THAT YOU HAVE BACK THERE IS OWNED BY THE

GOLF COURSE. >> CORRECT.

>> AND THEN DO YOU NEED MORE? >> IT'S A CONTINUOUS CYCLE TO

KEEP FRESH EQUIPMENT. YES. >> RIGHT.

>> A LOT OF THE EQUIPMENT YOU SEE OUTSIDE IS DISAPPEARING AND BEING SOLD BECAUSE IT'S OUTLIVED ITS LIFESPAN FOR US. AND THE FUNDS WILL GO BACK INTO THE GOLF COURSE.

>> NORMALLY, YOU ARE BUYING USED EQUIPMENT.

>> NORMALLY, YES. >> A LOT OF IT IS COMING FROM

SAWGRASS IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN. >> SOME OF IT CAME FROM

SAWGRASS, YES. >> IS UP LIKE EBAY OR IS VERY

UPSET. >> TPC SAWGRASS. THEY LEASE ALL THEIR EQUIPMENT WHEN IT COMES OFF LEASE AND THE MANUFACTURER SELLS IT TO OTHER

GOLF COURSES USED EQUIPMENT. >> IS LIKE THREE YEARS, TWO

YEARS. >>.

>> AND WELL-MAINTAINED SO THAT WHEN YOU GET IT IT SHOULD BE A GOOD PIECE OF EQUIPMENT.

>> ALWAYS THERE LIKE A LITTLE NETWORK AMONG SUPERINTENDENT -- I KNOW THERE'S AN ASSOCIATION

OF SUPERINTENDENTS, CORRECT. >> CORRECT. THE NETWORK IS PHENOMENAL. THEY RELY ON EACH OTHER.

>> I HAD A FRIEND UP IN PENNSYLVANIA. SO HE HAD A LOT OF RESPECT FOR SUPERINTENDENTS.

AND HE WOULD TELL ME ABOUT NETWORKING.

>> YOU ALWAYS HAVE NEW EQUIPMENT AND YOU HAVE IT UNDER WARRANTIES AND IT'S ON TIPTOP

SHAPE. >> IT'S SOMETHING THAT THE CITY HAS NOT DONE. IT WAS -- SINCE I'VE BEEN HERE, I'VE BEEN TRYING TO GET THEM TO LEASE

MAINTENANCE EQUIPMENT. >> AND GOLF CARTS.

>> COUSIN YOU ROLL IT OVER AND HAVE EQUIPMENT.

>> I DON'T KNOW -- I DON'T KNOW THE ACTUAL REASON OF THAT. IT'S THE WAY WE'VE ALWAYS DONE

IT (LAUGHING). >> BUT GOLF CARTS ALSO, IF WE PLEASE THE GOLF CARTS, A BETTER DEAL FOR THE GOLF COURSE.

>> SO WHAT WILL BE THE IMPLICATION -- (INDISCERNIBLE) -- TO OWNING?

>> WILL THE ONLY IMPLICATION IS IN THE BUDGET BECAUSE NOW YOU WOULD HAVE A LEASE PAYMENT THAT WOULD ALWAYS BE THERE FOR THE NEXT FEW YEARS OUT. SO CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG WITH THIS. THE FAIRWAY UNIT FOR THREE YEARS. NEXT YEAR WE RELEASE ANOTHER GREENS MOWER ãMAKES YOU HAVE A CONSTANT ROLLOVER OF EQUIPMENT THAT WAS FRESH AND UNDER WARRANTY.

>> THAT PART I GET. >> CONVERSION FROM ONE TO THE

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OTHER. >> WILL THE CONVERSION IS SIMPLE WITH THE EXCEPTION OF THE -- THIS IS SOMETHING YOU PUT IT ON THE X FOR YOU TO APPROVE IN YOUR APPROVING A CAPITAL LEASE.

>> SO FROM A BUDGET PERSPECTIVE IN GENERAL SHOWING A HIGHER PRICE AT ONE POINT WHEN YOU PURCHASE AS OPPOSED TO WHEN YOU LEASE YOU WOULD SEE THAT SAME COST ROLLING OUT FROM YEAR TO

YEAR. >> CURRENTLY IN OUR CAP X WE HAD $75,000 YEAR FOR EQUIPMENT. IF YOU WERE TO ROLL THAT INTO LEASES AND KEEP THE SAME $75,000 EVERY YEAR, YOU WOULD BE A LITTLE UNDER OR OVER IN LEASING?

>> A LITTLE OVER. >> JUST A LITTLE OVER THAT.

BUT YOU WOULD ALWAYS HAVE STATE-OF-THE-ART EQUIPMENT.

>> SO WHY DON'T YOU BRING IT BACK?

>> I CAN DO THAT NEXT BUDGET CYCLE BECAUSE IT WILL BE THE SAME BUDGET CYCLE IN WHICH CASE -- (INDISCERNIBLE) -- CARTS VERSUS GAS CARDS.

>> WITH THE HAVE TO WAIT FOR THE NEXT BUDGET CYCLE?

>> IT WOULD -- FOR COUNTY PURCHASES IT WOULD HAVE TO GO TO THE NEXT PURCHASE BECAUSE YOU DON'T LEASE ANY -- IS FIRE TRUCKS. IT'S ALL PURCHASES. SO THE SAME THING WOULD HOLD TRUE FOR FIRETRUCKS. I WOULD THINK THAT A LEASE WOULD BE BETTER. THEY'RE

PRETTY MUCH DISPOSABLE. >> BUT IF SOMETHING HAPPENED TO SOME OF THE EQUIPMENT THAT DAVID IS NOW USING, WHAT ARE THOSE PIECES OF EQUIPMENT BROKE DOWN AND YOU COULDN'T USE IT ANYMORE. WOULD IT BE REASONABLE TO THINK THAT YOU COULD GO OUT AND LISETTE PEACEFUL CLEMENTA GET STARTED ON ROTATION.

>> I WAS JUST DOING IT THE BEGINNING OF THE FISCAL YEAR.

>> OKAY. >> WE DID NOT REALLY ROLL IT

THROUGH. >> AND IT WOULD ALSO DEPEND ON THE TIMEFRAME BECAUSE YOU MIGHT HAVE WARRANTY AVAILABLE FOR THAT PIECE OF EQUIPMENT IF IT'S A FAIRLY NEW PIECE OF EQUIPMENT.

>> AS WE BEEN BUYING USED EQUIPMENT, THE WARRANTY LASTS 30 DAYS VERSUS 36 MONTHS.

>> I SEE. >> THE ONLY THING IS YOU NEVER

OWN A PIECE OF EQUIPMENT. >> WHAT IS THE

>> I FELT THE SAME WAY -- WERE PREACHING TO THE CHOIR.

>> WITH THE INDUSTRY STANDARDS. DO YOU KNOW?

>> IF YOU ARE A PRIVATE CLUB, A WELL-TO-DO CLUB, YOU ARE ROLLING IT EVERY 24 TO 36 MONTHS ON THE LEASE. CARDS YOUR ROLLING 24 -- ON THE LEASE.

>> OR THE LOWER DOLLARS, THEY ARE BUYING USED EQUIPMENT BECAUSE IT'S OUT THERE AND THEY THINK THEY'RE SAVING A DIME, BUT YOUR R&M COSTS GO UP.

>> REPLACE AND MAINTAIN. >> REPAIR AND MAINTENANCE.

>>. >> SO.

>> IS A -- FROM DAVID, WHERE YOU BEEN? IS THIS ONE OF THE MORE CHALLENGING --

>> NO. I'VE BEEN IN A COUPLE COURSES WHERE THAT WAS THAT PROCESS WHERE WE WOULD BUY EQUIPMENT. YOU WOULD UTILIZE WHAT THE PREVIOUS OWNERS HAD AND THEN YOU WOULD FACILITATE TRYING TO GET NEW EQUIPMENT IN BUT IT WAS ALWAYS PURCHASES.

NOW WE HAD CLUBS THAT WERE LIKE THAT STEVE WAS TALKING ABOUT WHERE THEY ARE PRIVATE AND CLUBS THAT THEY WOULD ROLL IN THREE TO FURTHER LEASES, BUT WITH THE BENEFIT OF HAVING A LEASE IF YOU HAVE A MACHINE THAT GOES DOWN, THE COMPANY THAT YOU ARE LEASING THE MACHINE WITH, THEY CAN BRING YOU A LONER WHILE THEY'RE HAVING TO GO BACK AND GET THAT

ONE FIX. >> GETS FIXED AT THEIR PLACE,

NOT YOUR PLACE. >> I MEAN, THERE'S TRAVEL AND MECHANICS THAT CAN COME OUT AND HELP OUT. BUT YOU'RE NOT BUILD ANYTHING. THEY HAVE COMPUTERS AND UTILIZE THE TOOLS THEY HAVE TO FIX IT.

>> IN THE LEASING, WOULD THAT REDUCE THE NEED FOR EMPLOYEE.

>> NOT NECESSARILY. YOU WILL ALWAYS NEED A MECHANIC TO MAINTAIN THE EQUIPMENT. BUT YOUR -- HE WAS SAYING THE R&M BUDGET IS LOWER WHEN YOU LEAST EQUIPMENT BECAUSE OF THE FACT THAT YOU HAVE WARRANTIES ON IT AND IT CAN HELP COVER PARTS OF A SERVICE IF THE MACHINE NEEDS

TO BE REPAIRED. >> PREVENTATIVE MAINTENANCE IS

STILL ON THE GOLF COURSE. >> WHAT WAS IT?

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>> PREVENTATIVE MAINTENANCE IS STILL.

>> YOU'RE ALWAYS GOING TO ASK IT'S ALWAYS GOING TO BE BORNE BY THE LEASEHOLDER.

>> THEY MIGHT BRING THEIR STAFFING UP TO A LEVEL THAT'S BETTER FOR THEM BECAUSE SOME OF THE CURRENT WORKLOAD WOULD BE OFF OF THE LEASE COMPANY. BUT YOU MAY HAVE STAFF THAT CAN DO SOMETHING DIFFERENT. IF THERE WAS AVAILABILITY.

>> WHICH ALWAYS GOING TO HAVE TO MECHANIC TO DO MINOR REPAIRS AND STUFF LIKE THAT.

>> DOES THE -- TO HAVE ALL THE EQUIPMENT NOW THAT WE NEED TO OPERATE?

>> YES. >> DO YOU NEED MORE PEOPLE?

>> OR THAT'S JUST A WISH. >> THAT'S NOT HOW YOU BUDGET.

>> AS SOON AS THE MONEY COMES IN, WE CAN HIRE MORE PEOPLE. WE CAN'T DO IT THE OTHER WAY

AROUND. >> RIGHT. WELL, THINK YOU'RE DOING A GREAT JOB WITH WHAT YOU HAVE.

>> I THINK YOU'RE DOING A GREAT JOB ANYWAY. NOW WITH THE STUFF THEY HAVE. THEY ARE DOING A

GREAT JOB NO MATTER WHAT. >> RIGHT.

>> I WENT OUT TOOK PICTURES OF THE GOLF COURSE TO POST THEM ON FACEBOOK AND SOME WERE

INCREDIBLE. >> I SAW THOSE PICTURES. WHILE

THAT'S GREAT. >> ALL RIGHT. THANKS.

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>> ANY PUBLIC COMMENTS? >> I'M MIKE MATTERS 2601 VIA DELRAY. I ASKED YOU ABOUT THIS EARLIER ABOUT THE CAR SHOW. I'VE TOLD A LOT OF PEOPLE ABOUT THE POSSIBILITY THE POOR'S SHOW.

>> WE DID NOT GET THAT SHOW. OKAY. I JUST WANTED TO -- IN CASE ANYBODY ASKED HER FOR MAKING A PUBLIC. AND YOU HAVE ANY IDEAS WHAT WE DIDN'T GET A.

>> I WOULD NOT WANT TO SPECULATE ON THE RECORD.

>> MY, HAVE A QUESTION FOR YOU. SINCE YOU BROUGHT IT UP THE LAST MEETING, I PAID ATTENTION

GOING TO RIO DELRAY. >> AND EVERY TIME, IT SEEMS LIKE ALMOST EVERY TIME I DRIVE UP AND DOWN THAT STREET, THERE'S SOMETHING IN THE MEDIA

. >> IT'S -- SO IT'S OBVIOUSLY TO ME THAT THE RESIDENTS ARE NOT AWARE THAT THEY ARE NOT SUPPOSED TO PLACE -- WHETHER IT'S A MATTRESS, WHETHER IT'S THEIR BRUSH PILE OR WHETHER IT'S THEIR TRASH CANS. SO IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S AN EDUCATIONAL PROCESS TO ME MORE THAN IS A PROBLEM FOR THE GOLF COURSE.

>> YOU ARE ASKED ABOUT YOUR DUTIES, WHAT YOUR DUTIES ARE HERE, AND I THINK ONE OF THE -- THE ADVISORY BOARD YOU ADVISE THE GOLF COURSE ABOUT THE GOLF COURSE. I THINK PART OF YOUR DUTIES IS TO BE AN ADVOCATE FOR ANYTHING THAT AFFECTS THE GOLF COURSE. AND I THINK THAT IS ONE OF THE THINGS THAT REALLY -- IT'S -- ONE OF MY NEIGHBORS HAD WHY DIDN'T THE CITY JUST SENT THE PEOPLE A LETTER THAT SOME THINK IT'S THIS WAY OR THAT WAY. WHY DON'T THEY JUST SENT A LETTER DOWN THE STREET TO THE PEOPLE AND JUST SAY THIS IS WHAT YOU ARE SUPPOSED TO DO? VERY SIMPLE. I MEAN IF IT'S THE MEDIAN YOU'RE SUPPOSED GOOD -- WE HAD A DESK UP THERE FOR

FIVE DAYS. DID YOU SEE? >> UH-UH (AFFIRMATIVE). I

SOUGHT. >> IT HAD A SIGN ON IT FOR A DESK. NOBODY TOOK IT. I WISH SOMEBODY HAD TAKEN A, BUT IT'S JUST AN IDEA.

>> THE CITY IS ASKING YOU TO DO A LOT NOW. TO COME UP WITH -- TO MAKE MORE MONEY, DISCHARGE MORE, EVERY TIME IS IT -- IS ANYTIME THE CITY STEPS FORWARD AND DO THEIR DUTY TO HELP IMPROVE ANY SITUATION OUT THERE THAT WOULD HELP THE GOLF COURSE?

>> IN YOUR -- I CAN'T ANSWER THAT.

>> I THINK A LOT OF PEOPLE SEE THE SAME THING.

>> YOU GAVE ME AND NOT ACTUALLY IN RESPONSE. MAYBE WE CAN SEND A LETTER AS AN ASSISTANCE TO

YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD. >> MAY BE.

>> BUT IT'S NOT -- IS NOT THE OTHER WAY AROUND. IT'S NOT FROM A GOLF COURSE

RESPONSIBILITY. >> NO, IT IS IN.

>> AM NOT ASKING YOU TO DO IT. THE CITY SHOULD DO THAT AND SAY THIS IS WHAT YOU SHOULD DO.

>> MY CITY ADVISORY BOARD THAT WE COULD ASSIST YOU.

>> I GOT THAT. >> WELL, WE HAD ONE MORE THING ABOUT THAT. WE HAD A -- DOWN ONE END OF THE STREET, MOST OF US HAVE OUR DEBRIS CARRIED OFF WHERE I PUT MINE ON THE CORNER OF THE HOUSE. SO MOST OF THE NEIGHBORS THERE, FROM THAT UNDER THE STREET, THAT'S WHY YOU DON'T SEE VERY MUCH IN THE LAST FIVE OR SIX HOUSES. WE

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HAD A NEW YARD AND/OR NEIGHBOR STARTED PUTTING DEBRIS IN THE STREET. SO I WALKED DOWN AND SAID -- AND TALK TO ABOUT IT, VERY NICELY. HE SAID WELL I WORKED FOR ANOTHER NEIGHBOR DOWN THE STREET. THEY SAID PULL IN THE MEETING. SEE YOU JUST NEED THE ONE PERSON TO START DOING IT. IT'S NO EDUCATION. THEY DO NOT KNOW WHERE TO PUT IT. SOME PEOPLE WANT TO PUT IT THERE AND I CAN TELL YOU -- SOME PEOPLE ARE GOING TO GET MAD AT ME.

>> RIGHT. ON THE SIGNATURE RESPONSIBILITY.

>> THE CITY -- THE CITY NEEDS TO ADDRESS THAT. IT'S SO SIMPLE.

>> MAYBE YOU SHOULD COME TO A CITY COMMISSION MEETING AND MAKE THAT RECOMMENDATION?

>> YES. >> BECAUSE THIS IS THE GOLF

COURSE ADVISORY BOARD. >> WHEN YOU HAVE A CAR SHOW AT THE END OF THE STREET OR YOU'RE SUPPOSED THEY PROPOSE TO HAVE ONE OF THE PEOPLE COMING TO WRITE THE CONTRACT THEY SEE AN OLD DESK AND TOILETS THAT NOBODY EVER RAKES UP AND CLEANS UP. HE GO OUT AND MAKE IT HAPPEN I THINK THAT AFFECTS YOU.

>> OKAY. >> AND THAT'S WHY.

>> THAT'S WHY THINK THIS BOARD SHOULD ADDRESS THE ISSUES OR AN ISSUE IN THAT AREA.

>> WHAT WE DID. >> YOU DID. AND I APPRECIATE IT. I REALLY DO APPRECIATE IT. THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU. ANY OTHER COMMENTS? IF NOT,

>> I MAKE A MOTION TO ADJOURN

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.