[1. CALL TO ORDER]
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THE APRIL 27TH, 2026 MEETING OF THE CITY OF FERNANDINA BEACH WATERFRONT ADVISORY BOARD IS NOW CALLED TO ORDER.
BOARD SECRETARY PLEASE ROLL CALL.
MEMBER MILLS? GLAD TO BE SEEN.
AND MEMBER SMITH IS ABSENT TONIGHT.
ANNOUNCEMENT, MR. GREG ROLAND IS NOW A FULL-TIME VOTING MEMBER SO WE ALL NEED TO TAKE YOU A LOT MORE SERIOUSLY NOW.
THE CITY COMMISSION APPOINTED TWO NEW MEMBERS, MR.JEFF STEWART, GLAD TO HAVE YOU HERE, HE'S THE ALTERNATE, AND CHUCK SMITH, MR. SMITH, THAT'S NEXT, MR. SMITH.
HAD AN OBLIGATION TONIGHT, SO PRIOR TO JOINING THE BOARD.
SO IF THERE'S, SO MR. STEWART WILL NOW BE A VOTING MEMBER THIS EVENING.
ALL RIGHT, PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE.
I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION, UNDER GOD INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.
[4. APPROVAL OF MINUTES]
EVERYONE HAD A CHANCE TO REVIEW THE MINUTES.I HAD A FEW NOTES, LOVE NOTES I SENT IN.
YOU SENT THEM IN? CHAIR SHAVER FOUND MY TYPOS, SO, THANK YOU FOR READING.
DID YOU ALSO LOOK AT SECTION 8? MEMBER MILLS MADE THE MOTION AND THEN HE SECONDED IT AS ALL MOTION.
THANKS FOR POINTING THAT OUT THERE.
I MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE WITH THE CORRECTIONS.
[6.1 CITY UPDATES]
ALRIGHT, MOVING FORWARD.STAFF REPORTS, CITY UPDATES, PROJECT COORDINATOR JACOB PLATT, DOWNTOWN COORDINATOR KATIE NEWTON WILL PRESENT CITY PROJECT UPDATES.
SO WE'RE GOING TO START WITH SOME GOOD NEWS.
Y'ALL RECOMMENDED THAT THE CITY COMMISSION PURCHASE THIS PROPERTY AND WE ARE SCHEDULED FOR CLOSING ON WEDNESDAY.
WE'RE REALLY EXCITED ABOUT THAT.
THEY ARE EXPLORING DEMOLITION OF THE BUILDING AND CONVERSION TO A GRAVEL PARKING LOT.
AND WE HOPE TO HAVE THAT COMPLETED BY EARLY FALL.
SO, YOU KNOW, THERE'S LOTS OF STEPS INVOLVED WITH US GOING THROUGH THAT.
YOU'VE GOT TO GET QUOTES OR BID FOR THE DEMO AND THEN THE GRAVEL PARKING LOT.
IS THAT WITHIN THE PAID PARKING OR THE FREE PARKING ZONE? IT IS FREE.
IT'S ON THE OTHER SIDE OF LOT E AND LOT E IS NOT PAID PARKING.
DO YOU HAVE ANY KIND OF AN ESTIMATE AS TO HOW MANY SPACES COULD FIT INTO THERE? I HAVEN'T DONE A ROUGH LAYOUT ON IT, BUT IT SHOULD DOUBLE THE SIZE OF THAT PARKING LOT.
DO YOU THINK YOU MIGHT CAN GET AN ESTIMATE AT OUR NEXT MEETING? YEAH.
WASN'T IT ABOUT 60 WHEN WE TALKED ABOUT A CRA MEETING? I THINK IT WAS SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
YEAH, I THINK ERIC MAY HAVE EVEN DRAWN SOMETHING UP.
MR. BARTELT MAY HAVE DRAWN SOMETHING UP.
SO, YEAH, WE'LL HAVE AN UPDATE FOR YOU AT OUR NEXT MEETING.
SO, PAID PARKING HAS BEEN LIVE SINCE FEBRUARY.
WE STARTED HARD ENFORCEMENT MID-MARCH.
ONE PARKING IS OUR VENDOR, AND THEY...
DO THE DAY-TO-DAY OPERATIONS AND THERE'S A GROUP OF CITY STAFF THAT HAS OVERSIGHT OVER THEM IN CASE YOU DON'T KNOW THE HOURS OF OPERATION MONDAY THROUGH SATURDAY 10 TO 8 SUNDAY 1 TO 6 SO WE THOUGHT WE'D GIVE YOU JUST AN UPDATE ON SOME OF THE NUMBERS RIGHT NOW SO THE GROSS REVENUE FOR HOURLY PARKING IS AT $286,000 THAT'S THROUGH APRIL
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21ST. I DON'T HAVE ANY MORE NUMBERS THAN THAT.WE USUALLY GET THEM WEDNESDAYS. SO AND THEN OUR GROSS PERMIT REVENUE IS $175 AND THERE ARE 7,200 CITY RESIDENT PERMITS AND THAT'S AT NO CHARGE TO THE CITY RESIDENTS.
SO THERE'S STILL A COST ASSOCIATED WITH THOSE PERMITS.
COST TO THE CITY FOR THOSE PERMITS SO THAT'S GOING TO GET TAKEN OUT OF THE PERMIT REVENUE THE OFFSET COST FOR HAVING THE CITY PERMIT PROCESSING AND WE HAVE 469 CITATIONS THAT HAVE BEEN PAID YES SIR UM I TEXTED YOU BACK OR EMAILED YOU ABOUT PUTTING THAT PARKING THAT WE TALKED ABOUT ON THIS WAS IT'S A TIME TO TALK ABOUT THAT IF YOU WANT TO TALK ABOUT THE ISSUE RIGHT NOW, OR WE ALSO HAVE THE WORK PLAN.
OKAY, YOU TELL ME WHERE, BECAUSE I DON'T SEE IT ON THE THING.
I EMAILED YOU LAST WEEK AND PUT IT ON THERE.
I THINK I PUT IT ON THE WORK PLAN ONE, BUT WE CAN TALK ABOUT IT NOW.
ANY FEEDBACK OR ANYBODY, ANY BUSINESSES DOWNTOWN THAT HAVE PROVIDED YOU WITH ANY DOCUMENTATION THAT THEY HAVE LOST REVENUE BECAUSE OF PAPER? I DON'T KNOW IF ANYBODY IN THE CITY HAS GOTTEN THAT.
I DON'T KNOW THAT I'VE SEEN IT.
THAT DOESN'T MEAN THAT IT HASN'T GONE TO SOMEONE ELSE IF THEY HAVE.
WE ARE REALLY EARLY IN THE PROGRAM, SO I...
THINK IT WOULD BE HARD TO DOCUMENT.
WHERE DOES ALL THAT GO TO AND WHO SORTS THROUGH ALL THAT? THE DATA FOR PARKING? YEAH, IT SAYS STAFF, BUT I MEAN, WHO IS STAFF? I MEAN, IT'S GOT TO COME IN SOMEWHERE AND THEN SOMEBODY HAS TO BE ASSIGNED TO IT TO PUT EYES ON IT.
BUT I DEFINITELY CAN'T MAKE THOSE KIND OF, ANY KIND OF DECISIONS REGARDING.
THE WAY THE PROGRAM IS ADMINISTERED SO RIGHT RIGHT I KIND OF COORDINATE ALL THE INFORMATION I WORK WITH THE VENDOR I COLLECT THE DATA I HELP YOU KNOW WITH ANY ISSUES THAT WE'RE HAVING THROUGH THAT DO THEY PROVIDE ANY I MEAN WE SEE GROSS NUMBERS DO THEY PROVIDE ANY OR DO YOU FIGURE OUT ANY NET NUMBERS WE HAVE NOT DONE THAT IT WOULD BE KIND OF NICE TO KNOW TO SEE IF WE'RE ON TRACK.
COULD I MENTION, I MEAN, YOU TALKED ABOUT THE SIGN.
SHOULD I TALK ABOUT THAT NOW OR JUST ANY OTHER? SO I HAD MENTIONED IT WOULD BE HELPFUL, I THOUGHT, FOR, BECAUSE I JUST WALKED THE DOWNTOWN WATERFRONT IN SAVANNAH, AND THEY HAD A SIGN OF WHERE THE PAID PARKING NUMBERS WERE GOING AND DIFFERENT PROJECTS.
AND SO IT KIND OF HELPED PEOPLE UNDERSTAND WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO AS A COMMUNITY AND WHERE.
THE NUMBER WHERE THEIR MONEY IS GOING TO AND THAT YOU KNOW THEY KIND OF FELT LIKE THEY WERE A PART OF IT SO I THOUGHT THAT WOULD BE INTERESTING FOR HERE YOU KNOW BECAUSE I APPRECIATE THAT AND WHERE WOULD YOU PUT IT THOUGH I MEAN WHERE ARE YOU THINKING NEAR THE PARK OR SOMEWHERE AND I MEAN THEIR SIGN WAS QUITE LARGE SO I DON'T THINK IT NEEDS TO BE THAT BIG BUT I JUST YOU KNOW MONTHLY MAYBE PUT IF THIS IS HOW MUCH MONEY THAT HAS BEEN MADE YOU KNOW WHETHER YOU AGREE WITH IT OR NOT YOU YOU KNOW.
EXCITED ABOUT IT OR NOT I DO THINK IT'S HELPFUL LIKE KNOWING WHERE THE MONEY IS GOING AND IT KEEPS PEOPLE ACCOUNTABLE AND I DON'T KNOW I DIDN'T REALLY STING AS BAD WHEN I WAS PAYING FOR PARKING IN SAVANNAH I KNEW WHERE THE MONEY WAS GOING TO AND I THINK RIGHT NOW THE MONEY HAS NOT BEEN SPECIFICALLY ASSIGNED TO A PROJECT SO I THINK ONCE WE REACH THAT POINT THERE'S ALWAYS, THERE'S BEEN TALK ABOUT MAKING SURE THAT WE DO SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
SO THE MONEY IS DESIGNATED TO STAY DOWNTOWN FOR DOWNTOWN MAINTENANCE, CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS.
SO WE'RE TALKING ABOUT FIXING SIDEWALKS OR IF WE, YOU KNOW, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE LARGER DOWNTOWN REVITALIZATION PROJECT, WHICH WILL INVOLVE CHANGING STREETSCAPES.
YOU KNOW, OTHER CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS, POTENTIALLY THE SECOND PHASE OF THE WATERFRONT PARK.
THERE'S LOTS OF WAYS WE COULD USE THE MONEY DOWNTOWN, BUT IT IS SLATED TO STAY DOWNTOWN.
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BECAUSE THAT'S WHERE THE DOLLARS ARE BEING GENERATED FROM, SO THAT MONEY HAS TO GO RIGHT BACK THERE.I JUST WANT TO RELATE YOUR MARKET FOR SOMETHING.
THAT'S THE GAME PLAN, IS AS SOON AS WE HAVE A PROJECT THAT WE KNOW IS GOING TO BE FUNDED BY THE PAID PARKING REVENUE, THAT WE CAN PUT A SIGN UP THERE AND SAY, YOU KNOW, THIS IS WHERE THE MONEY IS GOING TO.
IS THERE A LIST OF PROJECTS OUT THERE TO DO THAT COULD BE MAYBE A SIGN PUT UP? YOU KNOW THIS IS WHAT WE'RE DOING ON THIS PROJECT NOW WHEN THE MONEY COMES IN YOU KNOW HAVE A NUMBER OF PROJECTS ON THE BOARD SIMILAR TO THE THE LIST OF THE MATRIX THAT YOU APPROVED WITH THE CRA RIGHT LAST MONTH UM THERE'S A LIST OF CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS IN DOWNTOWN UM AND THEN JUST REGULAR MAINTENANCE IT THERE'S A LOT OF SIDEWALKS AND STREETS AND AND LIGHT POLES AND THINGS LIKE THAT THAT NEED REPLACING AND ALL OF THAT DOES COST MONEY.
EVEN IF IT WAS JUST A SIMPLE SIGN STARTING, LIKE, THANK YOU FOR INVESTING IN OUR DOWNTOWN.
HERE ARE SOME THINGS THAT WE'RE LOOKING FORWARD TO IN THE NEAR FUTURE.
THE BIGGEST ISSUE WAS FOR THAT PAID PARKING WAS TO PAY FOR THE SEAT WALL.
THEIR BIG PROMOTION WAS FOR IT.
WE NEED TO PAY FOR THE BOND FOR THE SEAWALL.
THAT'S WHAT IT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE.
NOW WE'RE TALKING DIFFERENT THINGS.
SO, I MEAN, THAT'S WHAT IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE PAYING FOR WHAT IT'S ALL ABOUT.
THE SEAWALL IS ON THAT LIST OF PROJECTS AS WELL.
THE SEAWALL ALSO HAS A LOT OF GRANT FUNDING TOO.
SO WE OBVIOUSLY, IT'S NOT GOING TO BE ENTIRELY GRANT FUNDED.
WE HAVE TO WAIT TO SHOW THAT THE PROGRAM IS WORKING AND PROFITABLE BEFORE WE COULD EVEN CONSIDER GOING OUT AND GETTING A BOND.
THE BANK WOULD NOT AT THIS TIME.
CAN I ASK A QUESTION ABOUT THE NUMBERS, JUST TO MAKE SURE I UNDERSTAND IT? SO THE 7201 PERMITS FOR THE CITY RESIDENTS AT $24 A POP, THAT COMES UP TO ABOUT $172,000.
AND THAT $175 IS PART OF THE $286.
SO IS THAT CORRECT? NOPE, THAT'S SEPARATE.
SO BECAUSE WE ARE CHARGED THAT $24 PER CITY RESIDENT, ANYBODY THAT'S PAYING FOR PARKING PASSES.
THAT COMES OUT OF THE COST FOR THE...
SO THE NON-CITY RESIDENTS PAY $124.
THE REASON THAT IT'S $124 IS THEY'RE PAYING THAT PROCESSING FEE, ESSENTIALLY.
SO IT'S $100 REVENUE FOR THE PERMIT.
BUT, YEAH, ESSENTIALLY IT'S A WASH.
LIKE, I PAID FOR THREE EXTRA PERMITS.
AS MUCH AS WE LIKE TO SAY IT'S FREE FOR CITY RESIDENTS, WE PAY FOR IT IN OUR TAXES.
WE PAY FOR EVERYTHING DOWN HERE.
FOR OUR EXTRA PASSES, WE PAY $24.
ANY OTHER COMMENTS FOR PARKING? NO.
THIS IS A CONCEPT OF THE PHASE TWO, THE NORTHERN EXPANSION OF THE WATERFRONT PARK FROM THE EXISTING LIMITS THERE ON THE NORTH SIDE OF THE COMMUNITY GATHERING PICNIC TABLE TO THE BOAT RAMP AT THE SOUTH SIDE OF THE BOAT RAMP WHERE ATLANTIC SEAFOOD USED TO BE.
IT'S TOUGH TO READ IN THE PRESENTATION, SO I'LL KIND OF QUICKLY JUST GO THROUGH.
NUMBER ONE IS NOT DESIGNED BUT INTENDED TO BE SOME SORT OF COMMEMORATIVE PLAZA.
YOU'VE GOT THE SAME THEME THAT'S CARRIED THROUGHOUT THE PARK WITH THE CIRCULAR NODES THAT LEND THEMSELVES TO PUBLIC ART, STATUES, THAT KIND OF THING.
THIS AREA HERE IS JUST A SMALL OPEN LAWN.
THIS FEATURE HERE IS PROBABLY GOING TO BE THE SAME TYPE PAVERS THAT WE HAVE NORTH OF THE PAVILION, BUT SOME SORT OF PAVER INSTALLATION HERE.
THIS DASHED LINE THAT YOU HAVE HERE COULD BE SOME SORT OF PERGOLA SHADE STRUCTURE.
IT HASN'T BEEN DETERMINED YET, BUT THE INTENT IS.
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TO EVERYBODY THROUGHOUT THE YEARS HAS BROUGHT UP HAVING SWINGS SOMEWHERE DOWN AT THE WATERFRONT AND THIS LOCATION LENDS ITSELF NICE BECAUSE YOU HAVE THE ACTIVITY WITH THE BOAT RAMP YOU HAVE YOU KNOW A NICE VIEW OF THE SOUTHERN BASIN OF THE MARINA SO WHETHER THAT'S ROOFED OR PERGOLA BUT THAT'S THE AREA WE'RE LOOKING TO PUT A GROUP OF SWINGING BENCHES IF THIS IS A SOME SORT OF CIVIC PLAZA HERE, THERE'S ROOM FOR A GROUPING OF FLAGS AROUND YOUR MAIN ENTRY CIRCLE.THIS BECOMES YOUR NORTHERN ENTRANCE TO THE PARK.
WE'LL HAVE SOME LIGHTING, SITE LIGHTING, JUST LOW-LEVEL LANDSCAPING.
I DON'T THINK THERE'S ANYTHING CRAZY WITH IT, BUT THIS IS A CONCEPT.
WE'RE AT THE PHASE NOW WHERE WE'VE GIVEN...
DIRECTION TO THE LANDSCAPE DESIGNER AND CIVIL TEAM TO MOVE FORWARD WITH CONSTRUCTION DRAWINGS.
WE'VE GOT A ROUGH OPINION OF PROBABLE COST OF AROUND $700,000 FROM THE ARCHITECT.
AND LOOKING TO, THIS IS BUDGETED FOR FISCAL YEAR 27-28.
SO IT COULD POTENTIALLY GO OUT TO BID AT THE END OF THIS YEAR.
AND LOOK AT CONSTRUCTION END OF THE YEAR, BEGINNING OF NEXT YEAR.
DID ALL OF THIS, DID WE TALK ABOUT ALL THIS STUFF UP HERE, THIS NEW PART? DID ANYBODY GET ANY INPUT ON THAT FOR THE CITY? NO, AND WE'RE STILL, I MEAN, WE JUST BASICALLY GAVE THEM SOME DIRECTION TO MOVE FORWARD WITH CONSTRUCTION DRAWINGS.
THEY HAVEN'T STARTED CONSTRUCTION DRAWINGS.
IT'S KIND OF EXPENSIVE TO START WITHOUT TALKING TO US ABOUT IT.
AND I'VE GOT TO TELL YOU, THAT'S ALL PRETTY, BUT WHAT WE REALLY NEED TO DO IS FIND SOME FIX FOR THAT BOAT RAMP ISSUE OUT THERE BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'VE EVER TRIED TO LAUNCH A BOAT THERE, BUT I HAVE.
YOU'RE OUT IN THE ROAD, YOU BLOCK TRAFFIC.
AND WHAT WE TALKED ABOUT BEFORE, AND WE ALL TALKED ABOUT IT, WAS CREATING A PLACE FOR SOME ACCESS FOR BOATS.
AND WE NEED TO FOCUS ON SOMETHING BESIDES A PARK.
WE NEED TO BE ABLE TO USE THAT AS A FUNCTIONAL SPOT AND NOT JUST...
FOCUS ON HAVING TABLES AND THINGS AT THE BOAT RAMP.
BUT IT'S A MARINA RIGHT THERE, AND THAT'S THE ONLY BOAT RAMP THAT WE HAVE.
AND I WOULD LIKE THE CITY NOT TO OFFER TO SPEND A BUNCH OF MONEY ON CONSTRUCTION DRAWINGS BEFORE WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO TALK ABOUT IT WITH THE CITIZENS THAT ARE ON THIS WATERFRONT ADVISORY BOARD.
AND I MAY CERTAINLY, THAT'S WHY WE'RE HERE TONIGHT.
WE WANT TO GET YOUR MORE FEEDBACK ON THIS ITERATION OF THE DESIGN.
WE GET THEM GREEN LIGHT TO MOVE FORWARD WITH CONSTRUCTION DRAWINGS.
WE ALREADY HAVE A PURCHASE ORDER FOR THE DESIGN OF THE PARK, SO WE CAN CERTAINLY SAY PAUSE, AND MUDDY'S ALREADY BEEN COMMITTED TOWARDS DESIGN, WHATEVER THAT DESIGN LOOKS LIKE, WHETHER IT'S ADDRESSING CONCERNS WITH THE BOAT RAMP, WHATEVER IT MAY BE.
SO, YES, CERTAINLY WE WANT YOUR FEEDBACK FROM YOU GUYS TONIGHT.
I WILL SEND THE PDF OF THIS OUT TO THE GROUP.
TOMORROW SO YOU CAN HAVE MORE TIME TO STUDY IT BUT PLEASE WELCOME FEEDBACK I KNOW MR COOK HAS HAS BROUGHT UP SOME OF THOSE SAME POINTS AS FAR AS THE MANEUVERABILITY AT THE BOAT RAMP IT IS AND IT'S UM THE BOAT RAMP IS A NOT ONLY THE MANEUVERABILITY ISSUE IT'S THE END OF ITS LIFETIME ISSUE AND REALLY THE MOST EXPENSIVE COMPONENT TO THE WATERFRONT NOW WE'VE GOT THESE GRANT FUNDS.
WE'LL BE TALKING ABOUT THE BRETS.
WE'RE AT SOME MARINA REDEVELOPMENT HERE AND THE PORTION THAT WE'RE REPLACING THERE, BUT THAT'S GOT THE BIGGEST DOLLAR VALUE, AND WE ALL KNOW THE SILTATION ISSUES THERE IN THE SOUTHERN BASIN.
SO IT'S NOT ONLY FINDING A FIX FOR MANEUVERABILITY, BUT LONG-TERM FINDING A WAY TO PAY FOR REPLACEMENT OF IT.
WE DO HAVE PLANS THAT ARE PART OF THE KIMLEY HORN RESILIENCY WALL DESIGNED TO REPLACE IT.
IT'S JUST NOT A FUNDED ITEM JUST YET.
BUT CERTAINLY WELCOME EVERYBODY'S INPUT FOR THOUGHTS ON THIS EXPANSION.
HAVE YOU PUT YOUR BOAT IN THERE? MANY TIMES.
BUT I JUST DON'T THINK WE SHOULD SPEND A DIME ON THIS RIGHT HERE UNTIL WE HAVE SOME INPUT FROM THIS BOARD THAT WE'RE TASKED WITH BEING THIS WATERFRONT ADVISORY BOARD.
IN FACT, I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE ASK THE CITY COMMISSIONERS NOT TO MOVE FORWARD WITH ANY MONEY SPENT ON THAT BEFORE WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY
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TO PROVIDE SOME INPUT AND TALK ABOUT THE IMPACT ON THE BOAT RAMP AND WHAT WE DO THERE.IS THAT A MOTION? THAT IS A MOTION.
FAVOR ANY OPPOSED NO WE HAVE ONE MORE DID YOU KNOW I WAS GOING TO SAY THAT WHEN WE TALKED ABOUT IT A LOT WAS DESIGNED TO BE A TWO-LANE BOAT RAMP BUT IT'S ALWAYS BEEN A ONE-LANE BOAT RAMP BECAUSE OF THE ATLANTIC SEAFOOD THERE NOW IS THE TIME TO MAKE IT A TWO-LANE LIKE IT SHOULD BE MADE AND WE I THINK I DON'T WANT TO OVER PARK YOU KNOW BUILD OVER PARK US DOWN THERE FILLMORE PARKS, I THINK IT'S A BETTER USE FOR IT AND BECAUSE IT'S A CRITICAL TURN AREA.
WHEN YOU'RE TRYING TO UNLOAD AND LOAD.
RIGHT, YOU BLOCK ALL KIND OF TRAFFIC.
YEAH, I MEAN, IF YOU CAN TURN, GO SOUTH, BACK DOWN, IT KEEPS THE FLOW GOING, BECAUSE IT'S IMPOSSIBLE TO TURN NORTH, ALMOST.
WELL, THE BIGGEST THING THAT...
IS ABLE IS HINDERED OUR ABILITY TO USE THAT BOAT RAMP PROPERTIES WHEN THEY PUT THAT CURVE IN THERE AND THEY PUT THAT FOOT WALL IN THERE BECAUSE YOU CAN'T COME IN THERE WHY SO YOU HAVE TO CUT IN THERE REALLY SHARP AND NO ONE WANTS TO STOP IT AT STOP SIGN BECAUSE THEY PUT TWO DIFFERENT LINES IN THERE.
SO THEY DON'T KNOW TO STOP WAY BACK TO THE NORTH.
THEY JUST COME ON, AND THEN YOU CAN'T TURN, AND THEY WANT YOU TO DO SOMETHING.
AND THAT'S WHERE A LOT OF THE ABILITY TO MANEUVER IN THERE.
SO WE HAVE A LOT OF SPACE TO DO THAT WITH.
NOW THAT ATLANTIC SEAFOOD ISN'T THERE, THE BOAT RAMP HASN'T CHANGED THE DIMENSIONS.
BUT YOU CAN PUT THREE BOATS IN THERE AT A TIME WHEN YOU HAVE SOMEONE WHO KNOWS WHAT THEY'RE DOING.
I THINK THE WIDTH OF THE BOAT RAMP AND ALL THAT IS GREAT.
I THINK THAT CURVE RIGHT THERE ALONG THE RAILROAD NEEDS TO BE, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU CAN MOVE IT A LITTLE CLOSER, GO LOWER SO THAT PEOPLE CAN TURN BETTER.
THAT'S WHERE WE'VE GOT A BIG HINDER.
BECAUSE WE CAN GO SOUTH WITHOUT A PROBLEM.
IT'S WHEN YOU COME BACK FROM THE SOUTH TO BACK IN THERE, IS PEOPLE DON'T WANT TO STOP.
THEY THINK THEY HAVE THE RIGHT OF WAY.
THEY HAVE NO ETHICS OR COURTESY.
I HAVE A FULL COST OF RAILROAD TRACKS SHOULD START THERE.
BUT ONE MORE QUESTION ABOUT THIS RIGHT HERE.
WHERE ARE THEY GOING TO DO THE DRAIN THAT YOU'LL HAVE TO REPLACE WHERE ATLANTIC SEAFOOD IS? THAT'S GOING TO BE DONE AS PART OF THIS AREA 6 PROJECT.
SO THERE WILL BE AN OUTFALL STRUCTURE THAT WILL BE UNDERNEATH.
ESSENTIALLY, THE OUTFALL FOR THIS DRAINAGE PROJECT WILL BE RIGHT HERE UNDERNEATH THIS SIDEWALK.
RIGHT, IT'S GOT TO GO RIGHT WHERE ATLANTIC SEAFOOD WAS BECAUSE THAT'S WHERE IT RAN.
THEY'RE GOING TO DO A JACK AND BORE AFTER SHRIMP FESTIVAL, AND IT WILL BE STALLED HERE IN THE NEXT COUPLE MONTHS.
ON PHASE ONE IN THE PARK IS THAT ALL THE THE THINGS WE HAVE ACTIVITIES FOR THOSE KIDS IS JUST AS WOODEN BLOCKS ARE THEY GONNA PUT SOMETHING ELSE IN THERE I MEAN WHEN WE TALKED ABOUT BEFORE THEY WERE TALKED ABOUT PIRATE THEME STUFF AND ALL THAT THEN WE CAME UP WITH SOME BLOCKS YEAH, THE PLAY STRUCTURE, THE CIRCLE NEVER CHANGED AS FAR AS THE 27-FOOT CIRCLE FROM THE ORIGINAL CONCEPT.
THE PARKS AND REC ADVISORY COMMITTEE HAD WRESTLED WITH WHAT TYPE OF STRUCTURE TO PUT THERE.
WHAT WAS INITIALLY TALKED ABOUT WAS A GLOBAL MOTION SPINNING STRUCTURE.
THEY ULTIMATELY JUST SAID PARKS AND REC MADE THE RECOMMENDATION TO CITY STAFF TO STAY IN BUDGET AND STAY IN THAT CIRCLE.
AND FOUND THIS STRUCTURE FROM CASCADE WITH THE INTENT BEING IT KIND OF HONORS THE LUMBER YARD THAT USED TO BE RIGHT THERE WITH THE TERMINUS OF THE RAILROAD AND IT'S IT'S ACTIVELY USED THROUGHOUT THE DAY BUT YES RIGHT NOW THAT'S THE ONLY PLAY STRUCTURE PLANNED FOR THAT PARK.
THAT'S PROBABLY THE NUMBER ONE THING WHEN I TALK TO THE PUBLIC THAT THEY'D LIKE TO SEE DOWNTOWN ON THE WATER THE BETTER SO HOW DOES OUR NOW MOTION AND APPROVE MOTION I TAKE IT TO GET COMMUNICATED TO THE CITY COMMISSION DOES THAT GO TO YOU KATIE MM-HMM WILL YOU UPDATE US THEN WHEN YOU WHEN YOU REFERRING TO THE CITY COMMISSION YOU MEAN THE CITY COMMISSION NOT THE CITY MANAGER WELL WELL WHOEVER'S IN CHARGE OF PUTTING A HALT TO WHATEVER IS GOING ON HERE WITHOUT SOME APPROPRIATE INPUT FROM US YEAH THEY WILL TALK WITH CITY MANAGER AND OBVIOUSLY A BREAST OF THE CONVERSATION AND GO FROM THERE SHE FEELS AND SHE NEEDS TO GET COMMISSION DIRECTION
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ANOTHER QUESTION ON THE FUNDING OF THE $700,000 APPROXIMATE.IS THAT GOING TO COME FROM LIKE THE GENERAL FUND OR SPECIAL PROJECTS FUND IN FUTURE YEARS OR IS THAT GOING TO BE FROM THE IMPACT FEES THE CURRENT PLAN IS FOR TO USE IMPACT FEES THERE SO CHANGING THAT USE CHANGES THE FUNDING SOURCE WHATEVER WE DECIDE CAN IMPACT THESE BE DONE BE USED FOR IF WE GO WITH A PLAN THAT INCORPORATES SOME FUNCTIONALITY OF THE BOAT RAMP TOO OR NOT? THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION.
THOSE FEES ARE VERY SPECIFIC ON HOW THEY'RE USED.
THEY HAVE TO BE USED FOR EXPANSION OF PARK FACILITIES.
I DON'T KNOW HOW THAT WOULD TIE INTO THE BOAT RAMP, BOAT LAUNCH.
SO WE'LL GET THAT QUESTION ANSWERED.
WHAT WAS THE TOTAL BUDGET ON THAT PART, JAKE? WHAT WAS THE FINAL BUDGET NUMBER? I DON'T KNOW WHAT WAS BUDGETED, BUT WHAT WAS THE FINAL COST? WE'RE WRAPPING THAT UP THIS WEEK.
WE'RE FINISHING FINALIZING ALL THOSE COSTS.
WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO GO BACK TO THE COMMISSION FOR SMALL MINOR CHANGE ORDER, LESS THAN $100,000 MOST LIKELY.
BUT OVERALL, WE STAYED CLOSE TO THE BUDGET.
WHAT WAS THE BUDGET OVERALL? $2.3.
ANY MORE COMMENTS ON THIS? HOW WOULD YOU LIKE TO HAVE MORE OF THAT DISCUSSION? I'D LIKE TO, IF POSSIBLE, NOT WAIT TILL OUR NEXT MEETING TO TALK ABOUT IT.
CAN YOU JUST, WHEN I SEND YOU THE PLANS, PROVIDE ME FEEDBACK AND THEN MAYBE WE CAN SUMMARIZE? DO WE HAVE ANY FEEDBACK NOW? THE TURNING RADIUS THEY WANT TO PROVIDE? WELL FROM WHAT I HEARD MIKE AND EVERYBODY TALKING THE TURNING RADIUS WAS NOT SOUTH ACCORDING TO APPLE.
THE TURNING RADIUS IS TO THE NORTH SO THAT DOESN'T IMPACT THE PARK TURNING SOUTH THE WAY I UNDERSTAND THEIR DISCUSSION SO WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE BUILDINGS TO THE NORTH OF THE BOAT RAMP ON THE EDGE SO CAN WE MOVE THOSE OUT OF THE WAY? THOSE ARE SOME OF THE THINGS THAT SHOULD BE UP FOR DISCUSSION, NOT TO PARK.
I THINK WE NEED TO HAVE SOME ABILITY TO GET OFF THE ROAD THAT'S THE USABLE ROAD RIGHT NOW AND PULL INTO A LANE AND BE ABLE TO BACK YOUR BOAT INTO THAT RAMP WITHOUT IMPACTING TRAFFIC.
AND RIGHT NOW IT'S JUST CHAOS.
YOU HAVE TO GET SOMEBODY ELSE TO GET OUT THERE AND HOPEFULLY STOP TRAFFIC FOR YOU, MAYBE.
IF THEY'LL DO IT, AND IF YOU'RE BY YOURSELF IT'S ALMOST IMPOSSIBLE.
YOU PULL UP TO A SPOT ON THAT ROAD TO TRY AND BACK THE TRAILER IN, AND NOW PEOPLE PULL UP BEHIND YOU AND YOU CAN'T DO IT.
SO THERE NEEDS TO BE SOME ACCOMMODATION FOR BOATS TO USE THAT SPACE RIGHT THERE, A TRAFFIC LANE, TO PULL IN THERE OFF THE ROAD AND BACK YOUR TRAILER OR YOUR BOAT IN.
OR YOU MAY HAVE TO PULL IN THERE TO, THERE NEEDS TO BE A COUPLE LANES.
YOU KNOW, SO SOMEBODY CAN LOAD AND UNLOAD AND GET OUT OF YOUR WAY, AND SOMEBODY ELSE WITH A BOAT CAN DO THE SAME THING AND GIVE SOME AMOUNT OF SPACE AND NOT BE IN THE ROAD.
THE MAIN PROBLEM IS RIGHT NOW, TO GET YOUR BOAT IN THERE, YOU HAVE TO BACK IT ONTO THE ROAD AND HOPE PEOPLE WILL STOP FOR YOU.
MAYBE IT'S NOT A PARK ISSUE, IT'S A...
TRAFFIC FLOW ALONG THE NORTHERN SIDE OF THE BOAT RAMP.
WELL, THAT NEEDS TO ACCOMMODATE THAT.
THERE'S NO OTHER PLACE TO MAKE THAT HAPPEN.
WELL, IT COULD BE ON THE NORTH SIDE.
IT COULD MAKE A TRAFFIC LANE IF, FOR SOME REASON, AND I'M THROWING IDEAS OUT, AS YOU GO ALONG THE CENTER STREET CIRCLE, RED CIRCLE RIGHT IN THERE, INSTEAD OF HAVING TRAFFIC TURN SOUTH ALONG FRONT STREET, YOU RESTRICT TRAFFIC AND...
AND IT'S JUST A NORTHBOUND FLOW FROM ASH TO BACK TO CENTER.
SO THAT WAY, IF YOU'RE BACKING IN, YOU TURN YOUR BOAT AND TRAILER TO THE NORTH, YOU'RE WITH THE TRAFFIC FLOW.
NOBODY SHOULD BE COMING BEHIND YOU.
THEY'RE JUST THROWING OUT IDEAS AS WE TALK ABOUT HOW TO BETTER...
COULD BE ONE WAY THERE? YEAH, POTENTIALLY.
EITHER WAY, ONE WAY OR THE OTHER, TO HELP THE BOAT, PEOPLE BACK IN AND BACK OUT SO YOU DON'T HAVE TWO-WAY TRAFFIC.
IS THAT AN IDEA THAT MIGHT WORK? I DON'T KNOW.
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I'M NOT A TRAFFIC ENGINEER.IT'S BEEN A WHILE SINCE I'VE HAD TO BACK A BOAT DOWN THERE.
SO THAT'S SOMETHING THAT YOU GUYS THAT DO IT ALL THE TIME WOULD NEED TO HELP US OUT IS, WHICH DIRECTION DO WE NEED TO FOCUS IN, NORTH OR SOUTH? IF I HEARD CORRECTLY, ALAN SAID IT'S EASY GOING SOUTH, SO WHY CAN'T WE FOCUS A LITTLE BIT ON THE NORTHERN SIDE OF IT? I THINK, GREG, IF THEY WOULD MOVE THE CURB ON THE WEST SIDE OF FRONT STREET THAT THEY PUT UP THERE, THEY PUT THESE BIG CURBS ALL THE WAY ALONG THE WATER THERE.
IF THEY MOVE THAT MORE TO THE WEST AND MOVE THE ONE BY RAILROAD TRACKS AS MUCH AS THEY CAN TO THE EAST, AND IF YOU GO BACK TO THE PARK RIGHT THERE, UM.
THIS WOULD BE A GOOD PLACE FOR WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT MIKE IS FROM THAT BACK TO THE PARK YES SIR THIS WOULD HELP OUT WITH A PLACE TO STOP IF YOU DON'T HAVE YOUR STUFF TOGETHER BEFORE YOU GET TO THE BOAT RIDE.
THE BEST THING TO DO IS HAVE YOUR STUFF TOGETHER BEFORE YOU GET TO THE BOAT RIDE.
BUT THAT FIRST PARKING LOT RIGHT THERE TO THE CURB HOLD ON SORRY THE SCREENS OR AS HE'S PULLING THAT UP TO UM SEE WHERE THE CURVE IS JUST INSTEAD OF MAKING THAT A GREENWAY RIGHT THERE FROM THAT FROM THAT ONE PARKING LOT RIGHT GO BACK RIGHT THERE YEAH THAT LINE THERE TO THE NORTH THERE TO THERE JUST MOVE YOUR CIRCLE STUFF AND ALL MORE TO THE WEST AND HAVE THAT AS A LOADING BANK A LOADING AREA YOU GOT TO TAKE CARE OF WHAT MIGHT BE DOING TREES AND ALL THAT THERE DIDN'T GET BACK GOING IN THERE YEAH MOVE ALL THAT STUFF SOUTH AND GIVE US THAT LANE THERE.
PULL IN AND ON THE NORTH SIDE YOU GOT THE BATHROOMS AND ALL THAT THERE.
AND YOU GOT THE RAILROAD TRACKS, I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH FURTHER.
BEFORE THEY WERE REALLY LOW SO YOU COULD DRIVE ON THE DIRT AND MAKE IT.
AND THEN THAT CURVE BY THE BATHROOMS WASN'T THERE.
SO WE HAD MORE ROOM RIGHT THERE.
AND THE STOP SIGN WHERE IT SAID STOP WAS FURTHER BACK TO THE NORTH.
YEAH, IF YOU COULD PUSH ALL OF THAT.
SOUTH AND GIVE US THAT LANE RIGHT THERE THAT'S ADJACENT TO THOSE PARKING SPACES.
YEAH, SO THESE BUMP OUTS WERE INSTALLED IN 2021.
THEY WERE ASSOCIATED WITH THE OPENING OF ALACHUA STREET AND THE PEDESTRIAN SIGNALS THAT WERE REQUIRED TO GET ALACHUA STREET OPEN.
WE HAD TO DO THESE BUMP OUTS AT ASH CENTER AND ALACHUA.
BUT YES, IT'S DEFINITELY MUCH DIFFERENT WITH THAT HIGH BACK CURB THERE THAN IT WAS.
LET'S SEE WHERE THE PALM TREE AND ALL IS FROM ATLANTIC SO YOU GO FROM THERE TO YOUR FIRST PARKING SPOT AND THAT COULD BE A STAGING AREA THAT I LIKE YOU WOULD HAVE TO CHANGE IT GET OFF THE ROAD PUT THAT PART APART USE THAT PART OF THE MARINA SINCE WE'RE ON CAMERA WE DO HAVE TO TALK ONE AT A TIME IF WE CAN SO EVERYBODY CAN HEAR THERE'S SIGNAGE FOR YIELD TO BOAT TRAFFIC.
OH, THAT'S PROBABLY A GOOD IDEA.
BUT SEE HOW YOU GOT THAT STOP SIGN, THAT LIGHT RIGHT, I MEAN THAT LINE, GO FORWARD, RIGHT THERE, SEE IT RIGHT THERE? YOU GOT IT FOR STOP, AND THE STOP SIGNS WHERE? WAY BACK THERE.
YOU GOT A RAILROAD CROSSING HERE AND A STOP SPOT.
THEN YOU GOT ANOTHER STOP SPOT BEYOND THE...
STOP SIGN WITH A RAILROAD CROSSING SO THAT'S CONFUSING THAT'S WHY PEOPLE KEEP COMING YEAH WE HAD THAT'S HOW THE ENGINEER HAD IT DESIGNED I'LL HAVE TO LOOK INTO THAT WE'LL HAVE TO WE CAN CHECK INTO THAT SEE IF WE CAN BLACK OUT THAT THAT WOULD HELP OUT A LOT BLACK OUT THE STRIPING AND MAKE IT MORE CLEAR BUT YOU SEE HOW THAT YELLOW CURVE IS RIGHT THERE? IF YOU COULD MOVE IT MORE TO THE EAST.
YEAH, IT JUST REALLY BOWS OUT.
YEAH, IT BOWS WAY OUT, AND THAT MAKES IT A LOT EASIER FOR YOU TO BACK IN THERE.
IS THAT A RAILROAD THING? IT IS.
IT WAS TO KEEP PEOPLE, BE SURPRISED HOW MANY CARS END UP ON THESE TRACKS, EVEN STILL WITH THE CURVES.
NOT LATELY, BUT THEY HAVE TO GO OVER THERE.
WELL, I LIKE THE IDEA THAT ALAN HAD ABOUT.
THAT ONE LANE OVER THERE, MOVING THAT ALL SOUTH A LITTLE BIT, ALL THE WHOLE THING, AND THEN CREATING A STAGING AREA RIGHT THERE.
BECAUSE AT LEAST YOU COULD PULL IN THERE AND BE OFF THE ROAD AND HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO BACK YOUR TRAIL.
THAT WOULD MAKE IT A LOT EASIER.
TO MAKE THAT HAPPEN RIGHT THERE.
AND THEY DON'T BLOCK UP THE BOAT RAMP TRYING TO DO IT.
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ON THE BOAT RAMP.IN ADDITION TO TRAFFIC FLOW, WITH THAT IDEA, IT MIGHT HELP OUT POTENTIALLY.
WE'RE TALKING ABOUT BACKING AND GOING FORWARD.
AND THAT IS SOMETHING WE'VE TALKED ABOUT WITH THIS CONCEPT.
THE ONLY ISSUE WITH IT REALLY IS THAT THE INTENT HERE IS TO CREATE, THIS IS HOW PEOPLE ARE ENTERING THE PARK NOW.
IT'S AS THEY COME FROM CENTER STREET, YOU KNOW, THIS IS YOUR FLOW OF TRAFFIC.
WHENEVER WE DO WHAT WE'RE ABLE TO DO WITH THE BOAT RAMP, WE'RE GOING TO WANT TO DIRECT PEOPLE OUT TOWARDS THIS INTERSECTION SO THAT THE FLOW, THE TRAFFIC, THE PEDESTRIAN TRAFFIC ISN'T AT, YOU KNOW, WHERE THE BOAT RAMP STARTS, BUT IS, YOU KNOW, IN FRONT OF THE BOAT TRAILER TRAFFIC THAT'S THERE.
SO THE INTENT WAS TO MAKE YOUR ENTRANCE NODE HERE.
WE'LL CERTAINLY LOOK INTO, LIKE I SAID, ELIMINATING THAT AREA AND WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE, BUT REALLY SPECIFICALLY GONNA HAVE TO LOOK AT WHAT THAT DOES TO THE ENTRANCE AND FIGURE OUT HOW TO MAKE THAT FLOW WORK FOR EVERYBODY, BOTH BOAT TRAFFIC AND FOOT TRAFFIC.
AND ALSO YOU CAN PUT THOSE LIGHTS UP THERE JUST LIKE YOU HAVE ON CENTER STREET FOR PEDESTRIANS.
SO WHEN THEY GO TO WALK, THEY HIT THAT LIGHT.
AND NOT ONLY BOAT PEOPLE, BUT VEHICLE PEOPLE CAN SEE THEM CROSSING.
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YEAH.BECAUSE A LOT OF PEOPLE, THEY DON'T CARE WHAT YOU'RE DOING.
WE'LL CERTAINLY, LIKE I SAID, SEND THIS OUT TO YOU.
AND PLEASE FEEL FREE TO RESPOND TO ME WITH INDIVIDUAL COMMENTS.
ARENA UPDATES? OR DO WE HAVE MORE? WELL I DID NOT PUT A SLIDE FOR ASHTRAY BUT I JUST FIGURED WE HAD TO HAVE THIS ONE ON THERE.
SO YOU KNOW THERE'S A PARADE ON THURSDAY AND THE GRAND MARSHAL.
FAMOUS SO WE'LL GO ON WE'LL GO MARINA AND THAT'S IT UNLESS YOU HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS WE'LL DO THE BRETS AFTER THE MARINA DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR US ON ANYTHING ELSE THAT WE'VE DISCUSSED OR NOT DISCUSSED NOPE WE GOT I HAVE ONE QUESTION ABOUT THE PARKING PERMITS.
SOMEBODY ASKED ME THE OTHER DAY, ARE THE HANDICAP SPOTS...
AND IF YOU HAVE A HANDICAP TAG...
YEAH, AS LONG AS YOU HAVE A HANDICAP TAG...
IT CAN BE ANYWHERE THAT'S A LEGAL PARKING SPOT.
I'VE HAD SOME OLD PEOPLE THAT'S OLDER THAN ME ASK ME THAT.
SO IT DOES NOT HAVE TO BE A HANDICAP SPOT AS LONG AS YOU HAVE A HANDICAP TAG.
WHAT ABOUT THE STICKER IN THE WINDOW? IF IT'S A HANG TAG, IF IT'S ON YOUR LICENSE PLATE IN ANY WAY, SHAPE, OR FORM THAT WOULD ALLOW YOU TO PARK IN A HANDICAPPED SPOT, YOU CAN PARK IN A NON-HANDICAPPED SPOT AND PARK FOR FREE.
WHAT ABOUT ANY DESIGNATED SPOTS? I MEAN, IF IT GETS BUSY AND THEY'RE TAKEN UP AND, I MEAN, IT'S NOT...
YOU CAN PARK IN A NON-DESIGNATED SPOT WITH A HANDICAPPED SPOT, A HANDICAPPED PERMIT.
ANYWHERE IN A PAID PARKING AREA? YOU DON'T HAVE TO PAY TO PARK.
RIGHT, BUT WHAT I'M SAYING IS IF AT A BUSY TIME, SAY FRIDAY NIGHTS OR SOMETHING, WHERE MOST OF THE SPOTS, ALMOST ALL OF THEM ARE TAKEN, WHAT ABOUT DESIGNATED SPOTS FOR, I MEAN, THE IDEA OF PROVIDING HANDICAPPED PARKING IS TO MAKE IT ACCESSIBLE, AND THAT'S NOT TOO ACCESSIBLE.
SO WE DO HAVE, ON CENTER STREET, WE DO HAVE...
HOW MANY DO WE HAVE? I DON'T KNOW THAT ANSWER OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD.
THERE HAS BEEN A DOWNTOWN TRAFFIC STUDY.
THEY ARE FINALIZING SOME INFORMATION ON THE REPORT AND WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO BRING THAT TO YOU NEXT MONTH.
AND THE RESULTS OF THAT THEY WILL BE ALSO BE PROVIDING RECOMMENDATIONS ON ADDITIONAL SPOTS FOR DESIGNATED HANDICAP PARKING UM YOU KNOW WITHIN THE HISTORIC DISTRICT AND SOME OF THIS THE SIDE STREETS WE DON'T HAVE HANDICAP PARKING AS WE HAVE UM IMPROVED SOME OF THE STREETS LIKE AT A LOT TO ONE SECOND.
WE'VE ADDED HANDICAP PARKING WHERE WE CAN DO THAT AND MEET THE REQUIREMENTS BEING COMPLIANCE AND THEN WITH ANY NEW STREETSCAPE AN IMPLEMENTATION
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OF ANY RECOMMENDATIONS FROM THIS TRAFFIC STUDY THAT WE WOULD BE WORKING ON THAT.THAT'LL BE A NEXT MONTH DISCUSSION ON MAYBE WHERE WE NEED MORE HOW THE TRAFFIC IS FLOWING AND WHERE WE MIGHT NEED SOME MORE PARKING SPOTS.
DO YOU HAVE A COMMENT? PLEASE COME STATE YOUR NAME AND YOUR ADDRESS.
ERIC BARTELT, 3820 SOUTH FLETCHER.
IF YOU COULD GO BACK TO THE PHASE 2 WATERFRONT.
WHEN YOU WANT TO BACK A BOAT ONTO THE BOAT, TO LAUNCH A BOAT AT THE BOAT RAMP, WHERE ARE YOU COMING FROM? ARE YOU COMING DOWN ASH STREET? THAT'S ME.
I COME DOWN FRONT STREET AND COME ALL THE WAY TO THE BOAT RAMP.
SO I'M COMING UP AND PULLING MY TRUCK UP ASH AND THEN BACKING IN.
OKAY, SO YOU'RE COMING DOWN, YOU'RE GOING SOUTH ON FRONT.
SO YOU'RE COMING FROM ALACHUA OR THE DITCH? I'M GOING ALL THE WAY TO THE PORT AND COMING IN.
SO WHAT YOU'RE SUGGESTING IS THAT SPACE WHERE ON THE SOUTH FRONT STREET, THAT SPACE RIGHT ABOVE THAT, IF THAT WAS A LANE AND YOU HAD AN EASY TURNING OR THE CURB WAS AN EASY CURB THERE, THEN YOU COULD BACK IN EASIER.
NOTICE THAT AREA RIGHT THERE WOULD BE FOR STAGING AREA.
SO IF SOMEBODY HAD TO COME IN AND NEEDED TO TAKE THEIR STRAPS OFF THEIR BOAT OR WHATEVER, THEY COULD STOP RIGHT THERE.
AND THEN THEY COULD JUST BACK RIGHT IN.
BUT THEY'RE NOT STOPPING TRAFFIC FROM PEOPLE GOING NORTH AND SOUTH ON FRONT STREET OR MESSING UP ASH STREET.
MOST OF THE GUYS THAT ARE GOING TO FISH EVERY DAY, THEY'RE GOING TO COME DOWN ASH.
A LOT OF THEM COME FROM ASH AND COME FROM THE SOUTH, AND THEN THEY TURN NORTH ON FRONT STREET.
AND THAT'S WHERE IT GETS REALLY TIGHT WHEN YOU TURN NORTH ON FRONT STREET BECAUSE OF THOSE TWO BIG CURVES.
AND THEN PEOPLE DON'T STOP AT THE STOP SIGN.
THEY STOP UP THERE HALFWAY BETWEEN, YOU SAW IT, I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY FEET.
BUT IF YOU'RE COMING FROM ASH, YOU SAID THEY TURN NORTH AND THEN BACK IN.
SOME OF THEM TURN NORTH, SOME OF THEM TURN SOUTH.
IF YOU'RE COMING DOWN ASH AND YOU TURN.
AND THAT WOULD GIVE YOU MORE ROOM TO MAKE A WIDER SWING AND THEN BACK IN.
THAT WOULD MAKE IT, IF YOU COME IN FROM ASH, A LOT OF THESE GUYS DO COME IN FROM THE SOUTH.
SO THEY'LL COME DOWN ASH, BECAUSE THAT'S THE QUICKEST WAY, AND A LOT OF THOSE GUYS THEY'LL SWING THAT WAY.
I CAN ONLY TELL YOU HOW I SWING, BUT A LOT OF THOSE GUYS DO SWING SOUTH AND THEN BACK IN LIKE THAT.
I'M JUST WONDERING IF YOU'RE COMING DOWN ASH STREET.
AND YOU TURN TO THE SOUTH, IF YOU DO HAVE THAT LANE, YOU'RE PROBABLY NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO TURN INTO THAT LANE.
WELL, THERE'S NOT A BOAT THERE YOU CAN.
YEAH, YOU CAN MAKE A WIDER TURN, BUT YOU'RE STILL PROBABLY GOING TO BE IN THE TRAFFIC LANE WHEN YOU STOP AND THEN TURN BACK INTO THE BOAT RAMP.
MORE SPACE TO GIVE US FROM FRONT STREET WEST TOWARDS THE RIVER.
THE BETTER OFF WE'RE GOING TO BE TO GET OUT OF TRAFFIC SO THAT WE'RE NOT...
IT IS A MESS SOMETIMES DOWN THERE WHEN THAT...
WE'RE NOT DOING ANYTHING DIFFERENT THAN WHAT HAS BEEN GOING ON FOR OVER 50 YEARS TO BACK IN THAT BOAT RAMP.
THINGS HAVE CHANGED IN THE LAST 50 YEARS.
IT'S THE NARROWING OF THE STREETS AND PARKS AND EVERYTHING ELSE.
THE BOAT RAMP'S ALWAYS BEEN THERE.
IT'S BEEN A PART OF THIS TOWN.
IT'S BEEN A PART OF THEIR LIFE.
AND WE'VE ALWAYS GONE ONE WAY OR THE OTHER, AND TRAFFIC USUALLY STOPS WHEN THEY SEE A BOAT GOING IN.
CHRIS FERGUSON, MARINA GENERAL MANAGER.
BOARD MEMBER STEWART, WELCOME.
I'M REALLY JUST GOING TO GIVE A BRIEF UPDATE, A FINANCIAL OVERVIEW OF SORT OF WHERE WE ARE.
YEAR TO DATE, WE'VE HAD A GREAT YEAR SO FAR.
WHEN YOU'RE LOOKING AT TOTAL REVENUE, WE'RE $116,000 AHEAD OF LAST YEAR.
TRANSIENT REVENUE IS UP YEAR OVER YEAR OVER $63,000.
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OUR ANNUAL CONTRACT IS ALMOST $38,000.YOU CAN SEE JUST BY LOOKING AT THE MARINA, EDOC IS BASICALLY COMPLETELY FULL.
WE HAVE ONE BOAT, 51-FOOT SABRE, THAT WE'RE STILL WAITING ON THE CUSTOMERS PAYING FOR IT, BUT JUST WAITING ON THE BOAT TO ARRIVE.
FUEL REVENUE, NET FUEL REVENUE, WE'RE ABOUT THE SAME AS LAST YEAR.
MARCH WAS A BIT OF A TOUGH MONTH.
I MEAN, WE HAD SOME WEATHER CHALLENGES.
PEOPLE REALLY HELD UP FOR QUITE SOME TIME.
SO WE UTILIZED SORT OF AN INCENTIVE DISCOUNT PROGRAM TO TRY TO GET PEOPLE TO MOVE A HIGHER VOLUME OF FUEL.
SOMEBODY WAS TAKING 500 GALLONS OF...
OF COURSE, WE'RE GOING TO ASK THEM, WELL, HOW MUCH CAN YOU HOLD? WELL, I CAN HOLD $1,200.
WELL, YOU CAN TAKE AT LEAST $1,000, MAYBE $0.10 OFF.
AND SO WE WERE TRYING TO PUSH THAT VOLUME, SO WE DID SEE A LITTLE DECREASE IN THE MARGIN IN ORDER TO GENERATE THE ACTUAL NET REVENUE ITSELF.
I THINK WE HAD ABOUT $11,000, $12,000 IN DISCOUNTS.
BUT WITHOUT THAT, WE WOULD HAVE MOVED A MUCH SMALLER AMOUNT OF FUEL FOR THE MONTH.
LABOR OVER LAST YEAR SORT OF EXPECTED, BUT ABOUT $34,500 UNDER BUDGET YEAR TO DATE.
TOTAL OTHER EXPENSES, YOU KNOW, THIS IS, YOU KNOW, WE'RE SITTING ABOUT, YOU KNOW, WHERE WE WERE LAST YEAR.
BUT, YOU KNOW, AS YOU CAN SEE IN THE NOTES, WE'RE $168,000 UNDER BUDGET FOR THE YEAR.
BUT THAT BEING SAID, AT THE END OF MAY, YOU KNOW, WE WILL BE FINISHING UP THE.
DINGY DOCK PROJECT, WHICH IS $181,000 PROJECT.
WE HAVEN'T PAID ANYTHING TO DATE.
SO, YOU KNOW, THAT BEING UNDER BUDGET WILL SORT OF RECTIFY ITSELF.
THE BIGGIES THAT ARE REALLY IMPACTING THE OTHER EXPENSES IS THE BAD DEBT.
I MEAN, THERE'S AN ADDITIONAL, YOU KNOW, $66,500 AND THAT'S FROM THE SNAGGA SLIP.
IT IMPACTS TOTAL OTHER EXPENSES.
THE OTHER THING IS THAT 39,000 OVER BUDGET ON CREDIT CARD FEES.
NOW, DACA KICKED IN APRIL 1, SO WE SHOULD SEE OR START SEEING A SUBSTANTIAL DECREASE IN OUR CREDIT CARD FEES FROM 8.4% WHERE WE WERE TO 3.5% WHERE WE ARE NOW PER TRANSACTION.
I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO SEEING THOSE SAVINGS.
R&M, YOU KNOW, WELL UNDER BUDGET.
BUT AGAIN, I THINK THAT'S ALL TIMING.
I THINK THIS TIME LAST YEAR, IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN, THE BATHROOMS WERE REDONE.
SO THAT WAS A BIG, BIG TRANCHE OF EXPENDITURE THAT TOOK PLACE.
SO REALLY, A LOT OF IT HAS TO DO WITH TIMING.
BUT YEAR TO DATE, WE'RE 78,000 AHEAD OF LAST YEAR.
0.8 PERCENT GAIN YEAR TO DATE SO AND WE'VE GOT A REALLY STRONG TRANSIENT SEASON THAT'S THAT'S UNFOLDING IN FRONT OF US AND YOU KNOW JUST HOPING FOR FOR GOOD WEATHER AND CALM SEAS SO YEAH, NO HURRICANES YOU AREN'T KIDDING AND THEN JUST YOU KNOW ONE LAST SLIDE AND IT WAS JUST A LITTLE BRIEF UPDATE LAST YOU KNOW WE JUST CAME OFF OF HAVING THE MTOA, WHICH IS THE MARINE TRAWLER OWNERS ASSOCIATION, WITH US FOR A FEW DAYS AND THEN LITERALLY THE NEXT DAY WE HAD THE DEFEVER RENDEZVOUS COME IN.
THESE ARE 24, 25 BOAT YACHT CLUBS THAT CAME IN.
DEFEVER RENDEZVOUS WAS WITH US FOR FOUR DAYS.
HAD A BIG TO-DO IN THE BOATERS LOUNGE.
EVERYBODY HAD A PHENOMENAL TIME.
ENJOYED FERNANDINA BEACH, ENJOYED THE MARINA.
YEAH, IT WAS A LOT OF BOATS IN A SHORT PERIOD OF TIME.
WE WERE PACKED, USED EVERY LINEAR FOOT THAT WE HAD.
THE DINGHY DOCK REHAB, AS I MENTIONED BEFORE, THAT'LL BE COMPLETE.
WE WILL BE OPEN THIS WEEKEND FOR SHRIMP FEST.
AT LEAST THE SOUTH END OF THE DINGHY DOCK WE'LL BE ABLE TO UTILIZE.
THE NORTH END WILL STILL BE IN A CONDITION WHERE WE'RE UNABLE TO USE.
BUT PRIOR TO THE FISHING TOURNAMENT, THE KINGFISH TOURNAMENT AT THE END OF MAY, THAT DOCK SHOULD BE COMPLETE AND THAT WILL BE WHERE ALL THE BOATS COME IN FOR THE WEIGH-IN AND DROP-OFF.
BECAUSE THAT DROP-OFF IS TAKING PLACE AND THE WEIGH-IN IS TAKING PLACE AT LOW TIDE, NOT A TON OF WATER IN THAT LOCATION, WE WILL ALSO BE ALLOCATING SOME LINEAR FOOT OF DOCKAGE.
ON D-DOCK FOR THE 36, 39S, ANY OF THE BIG BIGGER BOATS THAT MAY DRAW A LITTLE BIT MORE THAN SOME OF THE SMALLER BOATS.
SO WE HAVE, YOU KNOW, TWO DIFFERENT DROP-OFF LOCATIONS FOR THAT TOURNAMENT.
AQUABIKE DISPOSITION, THOSE BIKES HAVE BEEN REMOVED FROM THE MARINA.
THEY WENT ON GOVDEALS.COM TODAY.
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AND AS LONG AS WE HAVE A BIDDER, THEY WILL BE SOLD AND DISPOSED OF.AS OF MAY 4TH, IF WE DON'T HAVE ANY BIDS, THEY'LL GO ON STAY ON GOV DEALS ONE MORE WEEK AND THEN IF NOTHING HAPPENS THERE THEY'LL ULTIMATELY BE DISPOSED OF AND JUST UH PUT INTO A DUMPSTER AND GONE BUT THAT EYESORE HAS BEEN RESOLVED WHICH WE'RE EXCITED ABOUT UM THE MOORING FIELD THAT'S A PROJECT THAT WE'VE GOT FORTHCOMING AFTER TRANSIENT SEASON WE JUST PICKED UP ABOUT 465 POUNDS OF SHACKLES AND HARDWARE EVERY CONNECTION POINT ON THE MOORING FIELD, ON EACH MOORING BALL, WILL BE COMPLETELY REDONE.
SO THAT'S A PROJECT THAT WILL BE STARTING JUNE, JULY.
KING FIRST TOURNAMENT, LIKE I SAID, MAY 30TH, WE'RE LOOKING FORWARD TO THAT AS WELL.
AND THEN THE ACL BOAT, THE LAST ACL BOAT FOR THIS YEAR, FOR THIS FISCAL YEAR, COMES IN MAY 22ND, 23RD.
THEN THERE'S A PAUSE, AND THEY COME BACK IN OCTOBER.
WOW, THEY'RE GOING TO BE HERE FOR LATER? YEAH, MEMORIAL DAY WEEKEND.
YEAH I HAVE A QUESTION FOR YOU UM THE CREDIT CARD DEAL ARE YOU ARE YOU TAKING THE 4% I KNOW YOU DO IT ON OUR MONTHLY FEES 4% HOW ABOUT FOR FUEL SALES AND EVERYTHING ELSE ARE Y'ALL ADDING NO WHY NOT NOT FOR NOT FOR TRANSIENT DOCKAGE AND NOT FOR FOR FUEL WHY NOT WHY NOT YES I MEAN YOU'VE BEEN MAKING THE FULL-TIME GUY PEOPLE WE'RE NOT MAKING ANYBODY.
YOU HAVE THE CREDIT CARD, YOU HAVE ACL, YOU HAVE CASH, AND YOU HAVE CHECK.
THE MAJORITY OF THE PEOPLE ARE PAYING BY CASH OR BY CHECK OR BY ACL.
IF YOU PAY BY ACL, IT'S A 1% FEE TO THE MARINA, NO FEE TO YOU.
IF YOU CHOOSE TO USE A CREDIT CARD, IT'S A 3.5% FEE TO YOU.
SO THERE'S THREE OTHER OPTIONS THAT HAVE ZERO FEE TO THE CUSTOMER.
WHEN YOU BUY FUEL OR WHATEVER, THEY PAY THE CREDIT CARD FEE.
WHY AREN'T WE DOING IT WITH THE TRANSIENT AND THE FUEL SALES INSTEAD OF US ABSORBING IT? WELL, WE DON'T.
I MEAN, THE DACA SYSTEM AND THE PLATFORM THAT WE UTILIZE, I MEAN, THE WHOLE IDEA IS TO DRAW PEOPLE IN.
AND FUEL IS NOT SOMETHING TO ADD ANOTHER 3.5% ON OR TRANSIENT DOCKAGE.
IT ACTUALLY WORKS AGAINST YOU IN TRYING TO DRAW TRAFFIC THROUGH THE DOOR.
AND AGAIN, IN REFERENCE TO THE LONG-TERM DOCKAGE, THERE'S THREE ALTERNATE AVENUES THAT HAVE ZERO FEE TO THE CONTRACT HOLDER.
NOW, I WILL SAY IF SOMEBODY IS TO CANCEL, AS A MARINA OPERATOR, WHEN WE INCUR A 3.5% FEE FOR THE TRANSACTION.
NOW, IF SOMEBODY WERE TO CANCEL THEIR RESERVATION.
WE WILL BE, AND WE'RE ROLLING THIS OUT AT THE END OF THIS MONTH, THE CUSTOMER WILL RECEIVE THEIR REFUND MINUS THE 3.5%.
SO WE WILL NOT INCUR THAT FEE WITHOUT BEING ABLE TO CAPITALIZE ON THE REVENUE THAT'S COMING IN.
I KNOW OTHER PEOPLE IN THIS TOWN THAT SELLS FUEL AND ALL.
IF YOU USE YOUR CREDIT CARD, THEY PUT ON THE 3.5% OR 4%.
I'M JUST CURIOUS WHY WE CAN'T DO IT OR WHY YOU CAN'T HAVE DACA IF THAT'S WHO'S DOING OUR SERVICE.
TAKE CARE OF IT TOO INSTEAD OF THE CITIZENS PAYING FOR THEIR USE OF A CREDIT CARD.
IF YOU GO DOWNTOWN AND BUY ANYTHING DOWNTOWN, I KNOW IT'S NOT THAT CALIBER, BUT IF YOU PAY A CASH FEE OR A CREDIT CARD, YOU HAVE TWO DIFFERENT PRICES.
WELL, AND THAT'S THE DISCERNING FACTOR IS THE FACT THAT, YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE BOATS THAT ARE TAKING 02,000, 2,500 GALLONS.
I MEAN, THESE ARE $6,000, $8,000 BILLS.
IT'S JUST NOT SOMETHING THAT WE HAVE DONE FROM AN ANCILLARY REVENUE SIDE.
CAN YOU CHECK ON IT AND SEE IF IT'S POSSIBLE? I KNOW THAT IT ISN'T WITH THE DACA PLATFORM ON TRANSIENT REVENUE.
AND THERE'S DATA AND STUDIES THAT THEY'VE DONE AS TO WHY.
AND I'LL BE HONEST WITH YOU, I SUPPORT IT 100% THAT...
WE DON'T CHARGE THE 3.5% BECAUSE WHEN WE, PRIOR TO DACWA, WHEN WE IMPLEMENTED THE 2.44% CHARGEBACK, THE BACKLASH WAS UNBELIEVABLE.
SO THE 3.5%, I MEAN, WE'RE SAVING 5% AT THIS STAGE.
IS IT SOMETHING THAT WE MAY ENTERTAIN IN THE FUTURE? POTENTIALLY.
BUT, YOU KNOW, RIGHT NOW WE ARE DRIVING THE BUSINESS, WE'RE GROWING THE BUSINESS.
WE HAVE PLATFORMS THAT WE'RE NOW EXPOSED TO, YOU KNOW, 750,000 VOTERS.
I MEAN, THE WHOLE IDEA IS TO DRAW THEM IN AND NOT PUT, YOU KNOW, FEES IN PLACE THAT ARE GOING TO BE DETERRENTS TO THE
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MARKETING PLATFORM.AND APPROACHES THAT WE'RE TAKING.
SO THERE'S NO OTHER MARINA OUT THERE THAT DOESN'T CHARGE 4% OR 3%? I'M NOT SAYING THAT THERE'S NO OTHER MARINA, BUT I MEAN WE'RE FERNANDINA HARBOR MARINA.
I MEAN THAT'S HOW WE OPERATE THE BUSINESS AND I THINK THE RESULTS THAT WE HAVE AND THAT WE'VE SHOWN TO DATE, ESPECIALLY THIS FISCAL YEAR, ARE REPRESENTATIVE OF THE DECISIONS THAT WE'VE MADE.
I THINK PROBABLY YOU KNOW IT'S ALWAYS MORE PALATABLE FOR...
CONSUMER WHEN YOU GIVE THEM A DISCOUNT RATHER THAN AN ADD-ON.
SO JUST LIKE YOU KNOW IF YOU GO TO A LOT OF DIFFERENT PLACES IT'LL BE A THERE BE A CREDIT CARD PRICE AND THEN THERE'S A CASH PRICE AND IT'S NOT THERE'S NOT WE'RE ADDING MONEY ESPECIALLY FOR GASOLINE YOU KNOW A LOT OF BUSINESSES DO ADD THAT THREE AND A HALF PERCENT FOR FOR PRODUCT BUT MOST OF THE TIME WITH GASOLINE THEY SHOW IT AS A CREDIT CARD PRICE OR A CASH PRICE IT'S A DISCOUNTED CASH PRICE.
IT'S JUST A MATTER OF PRESENTATION.
IF YOU CHARGE $0.10 A GALLON EXTRA FOR GAS, IF THEY'RE PAYING BY CREDIT CARD, OR YOU GET A CASH PRICE DISCOUNT, IT'S MORE PALATABLE.
I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.
AND IF YOU TELL ME THAT THAT MEANS A DIFFERENCE IN FUEL SALES FOR YOU, THEN YOU UNDERSTAND THAT, THEN OKAY.
REMEMBER WITH FUEL ON THE BOATS, THESE GUYS ARE A...
CLOSE COMMUNITY AND THEY ALL COMMUNICATE AND THEY'RE ALL TRAVELING SO THEY'RE GONNA KNOW WHERE THE FUEL SPOTS ARE AND IF YOU YOU'RE GETTING 500 600 700 GALLONS AND YOU ADD 3% TO IT THEY'RE JUST GONNA GO TO THEIR NEXT STOP YOU'RE GONNA PLAN THEIR STOPS AROUND IT SO THEY'RE NOT BUYING IT HERE IF IT GETS OUT OF WHACK YEAH I'M SORRY SO JUST YEAH I THINK WE SHOULD REPLACE THEY'RE ALL JUST INDICATE THEY ARE COMPARABLE TO OTHER AREA MARINAS.
WHATEVER THAT WHATEVER THAT MEANS YEAH WE WE'VE FINALLY BEEN ABLE TO BRING OUR DIESEL PRICE BELOW SIX SIX DOLLARS A GALLON UM AND I CAN I CAN TELL YOU WHEN WE GET UP INTO THAT FIVE SIX DOLLARS A GALLON PEOPLE AREN'T ASKING US WHAT OUR DOCKAGE RATE IS PEOPLE ARE ASKING US WHAT OUR FUEL PRICE IS AND THAT'S WHAT'S ULTIMATELY DICTATING WHERE THEY'RE GOING TO BE GOING THESE BIG BOATS FUEL AIN'T THE ISSUE YOU'D BE SURPRISED.
THERE'S BIG BOATS THAT FUEL ISN'T AN ISSUE, AND THEN THERE'S BIG BOATS THAT, YOU KNOW, EVERYBODY'S GOT A BUDGET.
NOT EVERYBODY THAT HAS A BIG BOAT HAS MONEY POURING OUT OF THEIR POCKETS.
I MEAN, THAT'S JUST THE REALITY OF IT.
I WAS JUST THINKING THAT'D SAVE THE CITIZENS OF FERNANDINA BEACH A LOT OF MONEY.
WELL, WE ARE ALREADY SAVING A LOT OF MONEY.
WE'RE SAVING 5% TO START, AND THEN BY ROLLING OUT THE CHARGEBACK FOR THE 3.5% IF THEY CANCEL.
I, FOR THE 2027 BUDGET, I'VE PUT IN JUST A 10% CANCELLATION RATE.
SO THAT THREE AND A HALF PERCENT THAT WE WOULD HAVE AND DID EAT IN YEARS PAST AND ACTUALLY AT 8.4%, THAT THREE AND A HALF PERCENT WILL NOW BE CHARGED BACK TO ANYBODY THAT CANCELS.
BECAUSE AGAIN, IF I HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO GENERATE THE REVENUE, THEN WE'RE GOING TO INCUR THAT'S THE COST OF DOING BUSINESS.
IF I DON'T HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO GENERATE THAT REVENUE, WELL, THAT EXPENSE THAT I INCURRED IS GOING BACK TO YOU.
DO WE HAVE A WAIT LIST FOR LONG TERM? YES, ABOUT 20 TO 25 BOATS.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? BUT WE NEED A BIGGER MARINA.
YOU KNOW THE OLD SAYING, BUILD IT AND THEY WILL COME, RIGHT? I GOT ONE, CHRIS.
I WAS DOWN THERE TODAY AT THE MARINA.
THE WIRES GOING DOWN THERE, IS THAT FUEL AND CABLE, ELECTRIC? WIRES.
SOMETHING WILL FLOAT WHERE THE...
WHERE THE GANGWAY FELL IN? YES, YEAH, THAT WAS EVERYTHING THAT WAS UNDERNEATH THE GANGWAY, SO THAT WHOLE SYSTEM WAS DESIGNED TO SUPPORT THAT, YES.
YEAH, I WAS LOOKING AT THE WAVE ACTION TODAY WITH THE EBB TIDE AND THE NORTHEAST WIND, AND THAT THING'S TAKING A BEATING.
ARE Y'ALL MONITORING IT, MAKE SURE IT DOESN'T BREAK LOOSE AND FALL IN? WE DO, WE DO EVERY DAY, AND ESPECIALLY ON THE KING TIDES, THE KING HIGHS AND THE KING LOWS, IT PUTS A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF STRESS ON THAT SUPPORT SYSTEM.
ESPECIALLY ON THE KING HIGHS BECAUSE YOU'LL SEE THE PILE HOOPS GET REALLY CLOSE TO THE TOPS OF THOSE PILES.
SO WE KEEP AN EYE ON IT BECAUSE IF WE HAVE TO, YOU KNOW, WE WOULD THEN PUT EXTENSIONS ON TOP AND IT'S REALLY JUST, YOU KNOW, FOUR TWO BY FOURS, ONE ON TECHNICALLY EACH SIDE OF A ROUND PILING.
THE PILE HOOP WILL THEN STILL BE ABLE TO RISE UP A LITTLE BIT.
THAT STUFF WAS JUST TAKING A BEATING.
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I KNOW I'VE GOT A DOCK WITH WOODEN PILE, AND THEY'LL BREAK OFF JUST SITTING THERE.FALL RIGHT OVER LIKE A DEAD MAN.
[7.1 MARINA REDEVELOPMENT UPDATE]
ABSOLUTELY.ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? ALL RIGHT.
WE HAVE THE MARINA REDEVELOPMENT UPDATE.
SO THIS IS INTENDED TO PROVIDE YOU AN UPDATE ON THE LATEST ON THE MARINA REDEVELOPMENT PROJECT AKA DEMOLITION OF BRETTS AND RECONSTRUCTION OF THE MARINA PIER FACILITY.
THIS IS THE REVISED LAYOUT THE WATERFRONT ADVISORY BOARD AND THE HISTORIC DISTRICT COUNCIL HAD THE SAME COMMENTS RELATED TO THE SHAPE.
THIS IS A REVISED DRAWING, STILL HAS THE UNUSUAL OR UNIQUE SHAPE ON THE WEST END TO ACCOMMODATE MAKING THAT GANGWAY TO THE ATTENUATOR DOCKS ADA COMPLIANT.
OVER HERE ON THE LEFT I'M JUST GOING TO KIND OF WALK THROUGH THE SEQUENCING OF OF THIS PLAN AND WHAT YOU'LL START SEEING, OUR GOAL IS TO TRY TO GET OUT TO BID NEXT WEEK, 30-DAY BID FRAME, TIME FRAME, OBVIOUSLY SHRIMP FESTIVAL, AND THEN THE NEXT BIG 4TH OF JULY HOLIDAY WILL HAVE IMPACTS.
SO THE PLAN IS TO GET THE CONTRACTOR CONTRACT TO THE COMMISSION IN LATE JUNE AND HOPEFULLY GET THEM.
STARTED PROBABLY TOWARDS THE END OF JULY, MOBILIZING AND SETTING UP HERE.
SO DEMOLITION OF THE BRETT STRUCTURE WILL OCCUR WITH THE BARGE AND CRANE IN BETWEEN LOADING DOCKS A AND SO THIS IS WHERE THE BARGE FOR DEMOLITION AND RECONSTRUCTION WILL BE LOCATED.
CONTRACTOR WILL HAVE ALL OF PARKING LOT A AS PART OF THEIR SITE DURING CONSTRUCTION.
IT'S NOT SHOWN HERE, BUT THE EXISTING PIER FACILITY THAT'S ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF BRETTS, ONE OF THE FIRST THINGS THAT THEY WILL BE DOING BEFORE DEMOLITION IS BASICALLY BUILDING A CONSTRUCTION TUNNEL TO MAINTAIN THAT THROUGHOUT THE ENTIRE PROJECT THROUGH DEMOLITION FOR ACCESS TO THE MARINA FACILITIES.
WE WILL DEMO BRETTS AND THE WALKWAYS ON THE NORTH AND WESTERN SIDE OF BRETTS.
THE CONCRETE PLATFORM THAT'S OUT HERE IN THE MARINA BUILDING WILL COME DOWN WITH DEMOLITION AS WELL.
AT THAT TIME WE'LL REMOVE AND RELOCATE UTILITIES AND INSTALL A TEMPORARY FUELING SYSTEM THAT'LL BE RUN OUT OF PARKING LOT A.
UNDERNEATH THIS SECTION, SO THIS ORANGE HERE, IS THE NEW SECTION OF SEAWALL ABOUT 130 FEET.
OF SEAWALL THAT WILL GO IN AFTER THE ORIGINAL 1938 BULKHEAD IS REMOVED.
THE PLAN CURRENTLY, AND WE'RE STILL WORKING OUT THE DETAILS ON HOW WE'RE GOING TO GO OUT TO BID, BUT CHRIS WOULD LIKE TO CONVERT THE EXISTING FUEL TANKS THAT ARE DOWN THERE INTO ALL 20,000 GALLONS FOR DIESEL, INSTALLING AN ADDITIONAL 5,000 GALLON UNLEADED.
WE'LL START THE BULKHEAD SYSTEM.
DREDGE UNDER BRETTS AND BOTH TO THE NORTH AND SOUTH OF BRETTS TO ELEVATION NEGATIVE NINE.
THE BOARDWALK WILL THEN BE CONSTRUCTED.
IT'S A HYBRID SYSTEM SO THEY ARE COMPOSITE ECO PILES, ROUND ECO PILES.
THEY'RE 16 INCH DIAMETER FILLED WITH CONCRETE COMPOSITE EXOSKELETON.
JOIST AND STRINGERS AND THEN A COMPOSITE DECKING TO TOP IT OFF.
THAT ELEVATION OF THE WHOLE PIER SYSTEM IS AT ELEVATION 7.5.
IT'S ABOUT TWO AND A HALF FEET HIGHER THAN THE CURRENT BOARDWALK IN PARKING LOT B.
SO THAT WILL BE ELEVATED A LITTLE BIT TO HELP REDUCE SUNNY DAY.
THERE'S OCCASIONAL TIDES THAT FLOODED THE EXISTING DOCK ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF BARRETTS.
LIKE I SAID, THE INTENT IS TO GO OUT TO BID HOPEFULLY NEXT WEEK, AND THAT'S JUST AN UPDATE ON WHERE WE STAND WITH IT.
HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
DID WE MAKE ANY ATTEMPT TO GET A PERMIT FOR AN OFFSHORE REEF TO USE THE SPOILS THERE? WE DID.
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PART OF ONE OF THE LAST THINGS WE JUST REVISED WAS PASSERO HAD YOU SAID THAT ALL THE CONCRETE THAT COMES OUT FOR THE PROJECT WAS GOING TO BE DUMPED AT 101 TO CREATE KIND OF RIPRAP.DECIDED NOT TO DO THAT, BUT WE DID NOT SECURE A PERMIT FOR THE REEF.
BUT WE STILL HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO WORK WITH THE CONTRACTOR AND FIGURE OUT IF THERE'S A PLACE WE CAN STORE IT.
CONTINUE TO WORK ON THE REEF BECAUSE I KNOW THERE'S GOING TO BE A LOT OF FOLKS WHO WOULD LOVE TO HAVE THAT MATERIAL FOR A REEF.
THE RAMP GOING TO E DOCK THERE INSTEAD OF LOSING DOCKAGE FOOTAGE CAN'T YOU MOVE THAT DOCK MORE TO THE EAST AND MAKE IT AND TURN IT AGAIN BECAUSE THAT'S OBVIOUSLY GOING TO THE ORANGE IS GONNA BE A WOODEN WALKWAY TO THE RAMP CORRECT? ON E DOCK? YEAH.
THAT'S THE GANGWAY THIS IS NEW.
RAMP? NO WE'RE ADDING FLOATING DOCK.
SO THAT IS THE RAMP, THE ORANGE IS A RAMP COMING OFF THE MAIN...
OKAY, I THOUGHT THAT WAS PART OF PERMANENT DOCKAGE.
SO THAT'S GOING TO BE ADDITIONAL DOCKAGE, THE YELLOW IS? IT WILL.
AND THE SAME ON THE OTHER ORANGE F DOCK, THAT BLUE IS ADDITIONAL? OR WHAT IS THE BLUE RIGHT THERE? PURPLE.
BECAUSE YOU GOT A LITTLE BLUE, YOU GOT A LITTLE YELLOW.
WE'RE NOT LOSING ANY DOCK DOCKAGE AND I KNOW WE'RE GAINING HERE.
SO YOU'RE EXTENDING IT THERE THAT WAY TO HELP THE FLOW GO UNDERNEATH THERE THAT'S THAT'S GOOD BUT WHAT IS THE PURPLE? I DON'T I HAVE TO PULL UP THE LATEST PLAN SET I DON'T HAVE IT HERE.
HAS THERE BEEN ANY MORE DISCUSSION WITH THE THE DEVELOPERS ABOUT THAT THAT PROJECT TO THE NORTH OF THE MARINA? CERTAINLY WE'RE IN DISCUSSION WITH THEM.
WE'VE GOT TO FIGURE OUT THE CONNECTION BETWEEN THE BOARDWALK AND PARKING LOT A AND CONNECTION TO HIS BOARDWALK ELEVATION WHICH WILL JUST IN GENERAL MOST LIKELY BE A SWITCHBACK SYSTEM.
IF YOU'RE WALKING NORTH YOU'D COME HERE THERE'D BE A RAMP THIS WAY, A LANDING AND THEN A SWITCHBACK TO GET UP TO HIS BOARDWALK ELEVATION HERE.
THEN WHAT THAT R ELEVATION WILL BE.
DID HIS PLAN INCLUDE ANY SLIPS, ANY PLACE FOR BOATS TO DOCK OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT? IT WAS JUST NOTED FOR FUTURE.
THEY WANT TO INCORPORATE A MARINA ELEMENT.
WE'VE TOLD THEM THAT WE'D LOVE TO HAVE A CONVERSATION ABOUT EXTENDING, WHETHER IT'S A DOCK, BOTH A AND B DOCK.
THERE'S A, B, AND C POSSIBILITY.
WE WOULD LOVE TO EXTEND THAT, PROVIDE HIM.
CONNECTIVITY FROM HIS PROPERTY TO THOSE DOCKS AND PROBABLY A PORTION OF THEM AS KIND OF RESERVE SPACES BECAUSE BACK IN THE EARLY 2000S WHEN THE LANE PROJECT WAS TALKED ABOUT AT AT THE GOOD SOUL AT THE STANDARD MARINE BLOCK THEIR PLAN INCORPORATED EXTENDING A DOCK ALL THE WAY TO BROOM STREET.
IT'S MORE, IT'S LIKE 800 FEET OF...
DOC, YOU COULD EXTEND A DOCK IF WE COULD GET...
THE WHOLE OF THE MARINA COULD GO NORTH, BECAUSE WE MOVED THE CHANNEL WEST, SO WE GOT THE PERMIT OKAY TO GO.
YEAH, I JUST DIDN'T KNOW HOW DEEP IT GETS OUT THERE BY SEA DOCK, WHICH IF YOU'D BE ABLE TO HAVE...
I'M SURE YOU COULD PUT PILINGS OUT THERE, BUT I FIGURED IT JUST GETS EXTREMELY DEEP THE FARTHER YOU GO.
SO YEAH, IN THEORY, YOU COULD EXTEND ALL OF THEM.
WHY CAN'T THEY BUILD, I MEAN, TO PILE ANOTHER TWO AND A HALF FEET, SO IT'S NINE FEET ABOVE, JUST LIKE OUR FLOOD WALLS ARE, THAT DOCK.
INSTEAD OF SEVEN AND A HALF FEET, GO ANOTHER FOOT AND A HALF.
IT'S JUST REALLY HOW YOU TRANSITION THERE AT THE BOAT RAMP.
I'M TALKING ABOUT THAT DOCK RIGHT THERE THAT WE'RE GOING TO REPLACE BRETT'S WITH.
INSTEAD OF BEING SEVEN AND A HALF FEET, GO TO NINE FEET THAT WE'RE BUILDING UP THIS $4 MILLION SEAWALL.
THAT WAY IT'S UP ABOVE THE FLOOD FOR THE NEXT 40 YEARS.
YEAH, IT'S SOMETHING THAT WAS DISCUSSED WITH THE DESIGN TEAM.
PART OF THE REASON WE DID BRING
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IT UP...FROM ELEVATION 5 TO 7.5 IN THE ORIGINAL DESIGN.
PARTLY BECAUSE YOU GET THAT WHOLE DISTANCE, YOU GET ALL OF THAT SEATING ALONG THE WATERFRONT, THAT WAS ONE MAJOR FACTOR THERE.
AND BY BRINGING IT UP TO ELEVATION 7.5, THE NUMBER OF SUNNY DAY FLOODING IS ONE OR LESS THAN A HANDFUL OF DAYS.
IT WAS JUST A DESIGN DECISION.
IT WASN'T REALLY A COST DEAL, IT WAS JUST A DESIGN.
BECAUSE THE ONLY THING EXTRA IS GOING TO BE ANOTHER FOOT AND A HALF ON THE PILINGS THAT WE'RE PUTTING.
YEAH, I'M TRYING TO THINK FROM A COST PERSPECTIVE.
I KNOW THE PROPOSED ECO-PILE SYSTEMS ARE OVER 40 FOOT PILES.
THEY'RE GOING TO BE DOWN 35 FEET BELOW THE SCOUR LINE.
SO ADDING A COUPLE FEET WOULDN'T HAVE BEEN, I MEAN THERE WOULD BE COST TO IT, BUT NOT MUCH.
DO YOU THINK IT WAS GOING TO CHANGE THE GETTING ON AND OFF? IT COULD CHANGE THE PITCH OF THE ROUNDS.
MAYBE TOO HIGH? THAT WAS PART OF IT.
SO THEN YOU'D BE EXTENDING GANGWAYS.
WE WERE TRYING TO FIND A HAPPY MEDIUM WHERE WE COULD UTILIZE THE EXISTING GANGWAYS WHERE POSSIBLE.
BUT THAT WAS A BIG FACTOR OF IT AS WELL.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OFF RED? ANY TIMELINE ON THAT DEVELOPMENT FOR THE NORTH SIDE OF ANYTHING? ANY IDEA ON WHAT THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT MOVING FORWARD OR MAKING PLANS? THEY'VE TOLD ME THEY WANT TO MAKE IT HAPPEN FAST, BUT I HAVE NOT HEARD.
I HONESTLY BELIEVE THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE UNDER CONSTRUCTION THERE, AND THAT'S PROBABLY GOING TO BE UNDER CONSTRUCTION AS WELL.
THEY WILL HAVE TO STOP FOR NEXT YEAR'S SHRIMP FESTIVAL FOR A PERIOD OF TIME, BUT CONSTRUCTION WON'T BE FINISHED BEFORE NEXT YEAR'S SHRIMP FESTIVAL.
AND WHERE WILL THE AMALIA RIVER CRUISE BOATS BE WHEN THEY'RE DOING THIS CONSTRUCTION OR DECONSTRUCTION, DEMOLITION? IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING, CHRIS, THAT FOLKS AT A&B, THE RIVER CRUISE, ARE THEY GOING TO THE DINGHY DOCK? CORRECT, CHRIS FERGUSON.
GENERAL MANAGER, YEAH, EVERYTHING ON A AND B WILL BE REMOVED.
THOSE THAT HAVE A SHALLOW ENOUGH DRAFT WILL GO TO THE DINGHY DOCK, WHICH IS PART OF THE REASON WHY WE'RE REHABBING IT.
ANYTHING ELSE, WE HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF ROOM STILL ON THE SORT OF THE OUTSIDE OF E DOCK.
WE'RE GOING TO SLIDE EVERYBODY DOWN.
WE'VE GOT 60 FEET THERE THAT WE'RE GOING TO PUT ONE OF THE BOATS, AND THEN WE MAY NEED TO UTILIZE SOME OF THE INSIDE OF D DOCK.
IT JUST DEPENDS ON WHICH BOATS ARE COMFORTABLE MOVING OVER TO THE DINGHY DOCK AT THIS POINT BASED ON, AGAIN, THEIR DRAFT AND WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT AT LOW TIDE.
BUT IT'LL BE A FLUID SITUATION.
I MEAN, IF WE HAVE A KING LOW, WE MAY NEED TO UTILIZE DIFFERENT SECTIONS OF THE MARINA FOR A FEW DAYS.
BUT WE'RE GOING TO USE THE DINGHY DOCK AS MUCH AS WE POSSIBLY CAN.
AND WHEN YOU SAY MOVE THE BOATS ON E-DOC, WHERE ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT SHIFTING THE BOATS TO? JUST SLIDING THEM DOWN.
WE'VE GOT ABOUT AN EXTRA, EVEN WITH THE 51 THAT'S COMING IN, I THINK WE'VE GOT, IF WE ADJUST EVERYBODY ACCORDINGLY, WE HAVE ACTUALLY 60 FEET, WE'LL HAVE ABOUT 60 FEET THAT WE'LL BE ABLE TO PUT ANOTHER BOAT IN THERE.
I'M SORRY? ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT ON THE SOUTH END? NO, NOT ON THE SOUTH END.
EVERYBODY'S GOING TO MOVE SOUTH, SO THE BOAT WILL BE UP MORE WITH THE REST OF THE CHARTER BOATS.
SO WE'LL PUT A CHARTER BOAT WITH A CHARTER BOAT AND NOT PUT THEM AT THE END BECAUSE WE ALREADY HAVE CUSTOMERS THAT ARE PAYING FOR THOSE SPACES.
BUT INSTEAD OF LEASING THAT SPACE TO A LONG-TERM CONTRACT HOLDER, WHICH WE PROBABLY COULD, WE'RE GOING TO KEEP THAT OPEN AND MOST LIKELY UTILIZE IT FOR A BOAT THAT'S OVER ON A OR B.
[7.2 BOARD WORK PLAN]
THANK YOU.THAT SHOULD HELP WITH THE DREDGING THOUGH.
MOVING ON WE'VE GOT OUR BOARD WORK PLAN.
THIS IS WHERE WE DISCUSS OUR PRIORITIES TO FORM OUR WORK PLAN FOR THE NEXT TWO YEARS.
THANK YOU ALL FOR DOING YOUR HOMEWORK.
OKAY, SO YOUR AUTHORIZING RESOLUTION REQUIRES THAT YOU ESTABLISH A WORK PLAN AND THE FIRST REPORT IS DUE ON JUNE 16TH SO WE HAD A LOT OF WORK TO DO BETWEEN NOW AND THEN.
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PRIORITIES AND FORM SOME GOALS AND OBJECTIVES.WE HAVE TO PREPARE A REPORT OF OUR ACCOMPLISHMENTS FOR THE YEAR, AND OUR AGENDA DEADLINE FOR THE JUNE 16TH AGENDA IS MAY 29TH.
SO IT'S THIS MEETING AND NEXT MEETING FOR US TO PUT THIS ALL TOGETHER.
SO I ASKED YOU ALL SOME QUESTIONS.
AND YOU ALL GAVE ME SOME FEEDBACK.
I PUT THEM INTO A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT SLIDES.
KIND OF THE TWO AREAS OF FOCUS ARE THE MARINA AND THEN THE CRA DOWNTOWN DISTRICT.
SO HERE'S WHAT YOU ALL SAID ABOUT AREAS OF FOCUS, CONCERN, PRIORITIES FOR THE MARINA.
THE BOAT RAMP AND BOAT TRAILER PARKING, ACCESS, ACCESSIBILITY TO THE WATERFRONT, BOATER ACCESS TO THE WATERFRONT, THE MARINA DEVELOPMENT PROJECT, FINANCIAL STABILITY OF THE MARINA, AND COMPETITIVE SLIP RATES, THE LONG-TERM DIRECTION OF THE MARINA, BALANCING THAT REVENUE GENERATION AND THE TAXPAYER CONSIDERATIONS BECAUSE IT IS A PUBLIC MARINA, AND THEN SOME SAFETY CONCERNS WITH THE MARINA.
THEN THE OTHER AREA OF FOCUS FOR THE CRA IN THE HISTORIC DOWNTOWN, PRESERVING FERNANDINA BEACH'S CHARACTER AS A TOURIST DESTINATION AND THE SMALL COMMUNITY THAT WE HAVE, COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT OF THE WATERFRONT, A WORKING WATERFRONT.
A LOT OF THESE DO KIND OF OVERLAP A LITTLE BIT.
HELPING WITH THE REDEVELOPMENT EFFORTS IN THE CRA.
BOARDWALK ON THE WATERFRONT TO IMPROVE CONNECTIVITY, PEDESTRIAN EXPERIENCE, AND A WALKABLE ENVIRONMENT FROM ONE END OF DOWNTOWN TO THE OTHER.
ANOTHER PEDESTRIAN WALK OVER AT BROOM STREET AND DEVELOPMENT OF A WELL-DESIGNED ACCESSIBLE FISHING PIER.
SOME OTHER CONSIDERATIONS THAT YOU MAY WANT TO CONSIDER AS YOU'RE WE'RE DISCUSSING THESE GOALS AND OBJECTIVES THE DOWNTOWN REVITALIZATION PROJECT IS PRETTY NEW WE DON'T EVEN REALLY HAVE ANYTHING TO SHOW YOU YET BUT WHEN WE'RE AT THE POINT WHEN WE HAVE SOMETHING TO SHOW YOU WE WOULD LIKE TO HAVE YOUR INPUT ON THAT YOU KNOW ASSISTING THE CITY AND FORGING THESE CONNECTIONS WITH PRIVATE PROPERTY OWNERS FOR THOSE PUBLIC-PRIVATE PARTNERSHIPS YOU KNOW WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE FRONT STREET PROJECT WHERE THEY'RE HOPEFULLY GOING TO BUILD THAT SEAWALL PORTION AND HAVE THAT CONNECTIVITY WITH THE WALKWAY WHICH YOU KNOW IS A GREAT PUBLIC-PRIVATE PARTNERSHIPS WE'RE REALLY EXCITED ABOUT THAT OPTION AND THEN YOU ALL APPROVED A CRA SUPPLEMENT WHICH HAD A MATRIX FOR PROJECTS.
THE CRA ADVISORY BOARD PREVIOUSLY REPRIORITIZED SOME OF THE OBJECTIVES FOR THE CRA AND THE CITY ATTORNEY HAD RECOMMENDED THAT MAYBE WE LOOK AT THOSE AND FORMALLY AMEND THE CRA PLAN WITH SOME OF THOSE.
SO, PROBABLY TAKE ANOTHER QUICK LOOK AT THAT AND MAKE ANY REFINEMENTS IF WE WOULD NEED TO TO GET THAT MOVING FORWARD IF WE BELIEVE THAT THE AMENDMENT AND THE WORK THAT THE PREVIOUS CRAB BOARD DID SHOULD GO IN THE FORMAL PLAN.
SO THOSE ARE THE THINGS THAT YOU ALL GAVE US AS PRIORITIES.
IS TO SYNTHESIZE THOSE INTO MAYBE THREE OR FOUR GOALS OR OBJECTIVES LIKE AREAS OF FOCUS AND THEN MAYBE OUTLINE A COUPLE OF STRATEGIES ON WHAT THE BOARD COULD DO IN MEETING THOSE GOALS AND HELPING THE CITY MEET THOSE GOALS SO IF YOU CAN TAKE KIND OF THIS INFORMATION AND WE CAN GO BACK AND FORTH AS WE'D LIKE TO.
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INTO MAYBE THREE GOALS.BUT, YOU KNOW, THREE SOUNDS KIND OF GOOD.
AND THEN A COUPLE OF STRATEGIES THAT THE BOARD CAN DEVELOP, CAN USE TO HELP MEET THOSE GOALS OR OBJECTIVES.
SO YOU YAY, WE WANT TO TALK ABOUT A WORKING WATERFRONT, BUT HOW CAN THE BOARD SPECIFICALLY MAKE THAT HAPPEN? WHAT CAN THE BOARD DO? CAN THEY PROVIDE INPUT? CAN THEY REACH OUT TO PROPERTY OWNERS? LIKE THOSE KINDS OF SPECIFIC THINGS THAT WOULD BE THE WORK OF THE BOARD RELATED TO THOSE LONG-TERM GOALS THAT WE HAVE.
YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU ASKED, ONE OF THE, SOME OF THE STUFF THAT I...
FEEDBACK ON WAS TO RESPECT WHAT WE PROVIDE TO THE COMMISSION THE MARINA BEING A CLASSIC EXAMPLE THAT WE SHOULD HAVE CANCELED THAT CONTRACT A YEAR AND A HALF AGO AND DIDN'T BUT THIS THING WITH THIS NEW PARK PHASE IS ANOTHER CLASSIC EXAMPLE OF JUST BYPASSING WHAT'S HAPPENED HERE THAT THING WAS GOING ALREADY TO TO GO OUT TO SOME CONSTRUCTION, SPENDING MONEY ON IT WITHOUT EVER GOING THROUGH US AT ALL.
SO IF WE DON'T HAVE THAT KIND OF INPUT, THEN SOMEBODY NEEDS TO BE A STOP SIGN, MAYBE YOU, TO SAY, HEY, WAIT A MINUTE, THESE GUYS OUGHT TO HAVE SOME SAY AS THE WATERFRONT ADVISORY BOARD ABOUT WHAT'S BEING PUT DOWN THERE.
SO, AND THEN YOU AND I TALKED ABOUT THIS ONE-ON-ONE A LITTLE BIT ON WAYS THAT LIKE HOW DO WE MAKE THAT HAPPEN UM WE'VE GOT BOARDS LIKE THE PAB AND THE HISTORIC DISTRICT COUNCIL WHERE OUR CODES REQUIRE THAT ANY NEW PLANS WOULD GO BEFORE THE BOARD THIS BOARD DOES NOT HAVE ANYTHING LIKE THAT UM SO IT REALLY IS TRYING TO FINESSE HOW PLANS COME BEFORE THE BOARD WHEN THOSE PLANS COME BEFORE THE BOARD DOES THE BOARD HAVE AUTHORIZATION TO APPROVE OR DENY OR JUST TO MAKE A RECOMMENDATION AS AN ADVISORY BOARD IT IS TO MAKE A RECOMMENDATION THE WAY THAT THE RESOLUTION IS WRITTEN SO IF WE WANTED TO MAKE A REQUIREMENT OF ANYTHING WITHIN THE CRA SHOULD GO BEFORE THIS BOARD THAT WOULD BE A CODE CHANGE AND THAT CAN BE A RECOMMENDATION THAT THE BOARD WORKS TOWARD IF THAT'S IF YOU FEEL THAT STRONGLY THAT YOU WANT THESE THINGS TO COME BEFORE THE BOARD AND THAT IT FALLS WITHIN THAT CERTAIN ORDER THERE IS A BALANCE OF COURSE BECAUSE THE MORE BOARDS AND COMMITTEES AND STEPS THAT ANYBODY HAS TO GO THROUGH IN ORDER TO GET ANYTHING DONE IT ADDS TIME, IT ADDS COST, AND CAN BE SEEN AS GOVERNMENT RED TAPE.
SO BALANCING THOSE DIFFERENT OPTIONS IS JUST SOMETHING YOU CAN CONSIDER.
I THINK THIS IS OUR OPPORTUNITY.
WE GET TO SEE WHAT'S COMING UP.
WE KNOW WHAT PROJECTS, WE KNOW WHAT'S GOING UNDER CONTRACT.
OUR OPPORTUNITY TO COME UP WITH THOSE IDEAS WITH THIS WORK PLAN AND JUST AT LEAST...
GO AHEAD AND PUT INTO, I KNOW WE'RE ALREADY, THEY'RE ALREADY LOOKING AT DESIGNING THE WHOLE WATERFRONT.
I FEEL LIKE I'M ALREADY A LITTLE BIT BEHIND.
DESIGNING THE WHOLE WATERFRONT.
I CAN GIVE YOU AN UPDATE ON THAT NEXT MONTH.
I MEAN, IT'S BEEN DESIGNED FOR YEARS, REALLY.
IT'S THAT LAST PIECE NORTH OF PARKING LOT A.
AND I DID FAIL TO MENTION THAT WE HAD A KICKOFF MEETING FOR OUR HARBOR MASTER PLAN.
GETTING THAT GOING, SO YOU'LL BE HEARING MORE ABOUT THAT.
WE'LL MAKE A PRESENTATION TO THE GROUP.
WE'RE GOING TO ENGAGE THOSE PROPERTY OWNERS ON THE NORTH END.
LISTEN TO THEM, SEE WHERE THEY'RE AT WITH THEIR PLANS, TALK TO WHERE THE BEST LOCATION FOR THAT SEAWALL IS.
SO BASICALLY, EVERYTHING FROM RAYONIER TO PARKING LOT A HAS BEEN DESIGNED FOR MANY YEARS.
IT'S THAT NORTHERN PIECE THAT WE'LL LOOK AT, AND Y'ALL WILL CERTAINLY BE PART OF THAT DISCUSSION.
SO I THINK GOING BACK TO WHAT YOUR OVERARCHING GOALS OR OBJECTIVES WOULD BE, TAKE
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REDEVELOPMENT OR DEVELOPMENT OF THE WATERFRONT.THAT WOULD BE LIKE A GOAL OF THE BOARD TO SUPPORT REDEVELOPMENT AND DEVELOPMENT EFFORTS, SMART DEVELOPMENT EFFORTS ON THE WATERFRONT.
SO HOW WOULD THE BOARD, THAT COULD BE YOUR GOAL AND THEN A STRATEGY UNDERNEATH THAT.
WHAT WOULD THE BOARD'S ROLE BE IN HELPING WITH THOSE? SMART COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT, LIKE WHAT WOULD THAT BE IN THE PROCESS? IS THAT ALL PROJECTS COME BEFORE THE BOARD AT A CERTAIN PHASE WHERE THE BOARD CAN PROVIDE FEEDBACK? IS IT THAT THE BOARD WORKS WITH PRIVATE OWNERS? I'D LIKE TO SEE THAT, I'D LIKE TO SEE THE PLANS.
YOU KNOW, OF THE PROJECTS AS THEY COME FORWARD, JUST LIKE WE DID WITH BRETT'S AND THE BOARDWALKS.
SO I THINK THAT COULD BE A PIECE OF IT.
I'D LIKE TO SEE THOSE AND THEN WE COULD GIVE OUR INPUT JUST LIKE THE SIMMONS PROPERTY DID.
I THINK THAT'S PRETTY IMPORTANT TO HAVE THAT IN FRONT OF US SO WE CAN.
YOU KNOW, JUST GIVE OUR OPINION AND OUR RECOMMENDATIONS.
ONE, FOR EXAMPLE, ON THE SIMMONS PROPERTY, THEY HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE HISTORIC DISTRICT COUNCIL FOR THEIR DESIGN REVIEW.
WHEN WE SAT DOWN AND TALKED WITH THE APPLICANTS, WE SUGGESTED THAT IT COMES TO THIS BOARD BEFORE IT GOES TO HTC.
THERE'S NOTHING THAT SAYS THAT THEY HAVE TO OR THEY WILL, BUT THAT'S KIND OF HOW WE'VE BEEN, IN OUR MINDS, THINKING HOW THESE PROJECTS THAT ARE...
HIGH-PROFILE WATERFRONT PROJECTS COME HERE GET SOME INPUT FROM YOU BEFORE MOVING ON EXACTLY BECAUSE HTC THEY HAVE APPROVAL UH AUTHORITY RIGHT AND WE DON'T SO I THINK IT'S APPROPRIATE FOR IT TO COME TO US FIRST WE CAN THROW OUR RECOMMENDATIONS IN THERE AND HOW WE LIKE IT OR DON'T AND THEN KICK IT KICK IT TO THEM FOR THAT NEXT STEP AND THEY CAN EITHER LOOK AT THOSE RECOMMENDATIONS INCORPORATE THEM OR NOT.
THAT'S WHAT WE DID WITH THE MARINA REDEVELOPMENT AS WELL.
IT CAME HERE FIRST BEFORE GOING TO HTC.
SO, YOU KNOW, THAT'S HOW WE PLAN TO OPERATE.
IT'S JUST WHETHER WE WANT TO CODIFY THAT IN THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE THROUGH ORDINANCE, BUT THAT'S UP TO YOU ALL.
BUT THAT IS HOW WE'RE MOVING PROJECTS FORWARD.
I THINK WE'RE HERE TO THINK OF ALL THE DETAILS THAT SOMEBODY WHO IS DESIGNING THIS FROM JACKSONVILLE PROBABLY WOULDN'T THINK ABOUT.
SO AT WHAT STAGE, BECAUSE WE WANT TO MAKE SURE WE'RE MEANINGFUL HERE, BECAUSE LIKE MR. SHARP SAID, YOU KNOW, WE'RE ALREADY, I DON'T KNOW, WE PUT A LOT OF WORK REALLY, I THOUGHT, INTO BRETT'S AND THEN THEY DIDN'T THINK ABOUT ANYTHING WE SAID.
SO, BUT, AND IT IS WHAT IT IS AT THAT POINT.
BUT I DON'T WANT THEM HAVING TO GO THROUGH US, HAVING TO GO THROUGH HDC, HAVING, I MEAN, NOBODY WANTS TO DO ALL THAT, BUT HOW CAN WE BE MEANINGFUL WITHOUT JUST, YOU KNOW, WASTING OUR TIME? I DON'T THINK THE DEVELOPER NEEDS TO PRESENT THE PLANS TO US.
I THINK THOSE ROUGH DRAFTS OR WHATEVER COULD COME THROUGH STAFF, AND THEY COULD PRESENT IT JUST UP ON THE BOARD, AND WE COULD KICK IT AROUND AND GIVE SOME IDEAS AND SOME THOUGHTS ON IT, AND THEN THAT COULD BE FORWARDED OUT TO HDC.
I THINK IT'S NICE THAT ANYTHING THAT GOES ON IN THE CRA THAT WE'RE INVOLVED WITH IT, SO WE SHOULD HEAR IT.
I THINK THE OWNER SHOULD HEAR WHAT WE HAVE TO SAY BEFORE THEY GO TO THE NEXT ONE, AND THEY MIGHT TWEAK IT TO THE NEXT BOARD.
I THINK WE NEED TO BE INVOLVED, AND I HATE THAT WE TALK ABOUT THINGS TO DEAF EARS.
AND WE'VE HAD THIS DISCUSSION, I'M NOT GOING TO ECHO, I'M GOING TO ECHO WHAT MIKE SAID AND SOME OTHER THINGS, BUT I THINK IF WE'RE GOING TO BE A POSITIVE BOARD, WE NEED TO BE MORE INVOLVED AND OUR OPINIONS NEED TO BE HEARD AND NOT DISMISSED.
SO WHAT YOU AND I TALKED ABOUT A LITTLE BIT WAS, YOU KNOW, WHETHER OR NOT APPROVING AUTHORITY OR AN ADVISORY AUTHORITY.
AND I DON'T WANT TO BE AN APPROVING AUTHORITY.
I THINK WE HAVE ENOUGH OF THOSE.
I'D LIKE FOR THERE TO BE SOME REQUIREMENT THAT THINGS LIKE THIS NEW PARK PLAN, PHASE TWO, WOULD COME TO US BEFORE IT WENT ANY FURTHER THAN THAT.
WE WOULD HAVE SOME INPUT SO THAT WE COULD TALK ABOUT IT.
SO THE PEOPLE THAT ARE ON THE BOARD THAT HAVE BOATS AND ARE FAMILIAR WITH THAT WOULD SAY, HEY.
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LET'S HAVE LESS FLUFF AND MORE FUNCTION BEFORE IT'S BUILT, BEFORE WE START SPENDING MONEY ON IT.SO WE NEED TO FIND A GOOD PROCESS MECHANISM TO MAKE SURE.
SOMETHING THAT FORCES THAT ISSUE TO COME BEFORE US SO THAT WE CAN GIVE SOME AMOUNT OF INPUT THAT HOPEFULLY WILL BE HEARD.
SO A GOOD MATRIX TO OUTLINE THAT.
YEAH, IT SHOULD COME TO US FIRST AND THEN MOVE ON.
AT LEAST GIVE US AN OPPORTUNITY TO PROVIDE THAT ADVISORY CAPACITY THAT YOU TASKED US WITH.
YEP, ANYTHING IN THE CRA, IN THOSE BOUNDARIES.
UNDER THE WATERFRONT DEVELOPMENT WE'RE LOOKING AT WORKING ON THAT MATRIX THAT MECHANISM TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERYTHING COMES TO YOU BEFORE IT MOVES ON THROUGH THE APPROVAL PROCESS FOR INITIAL FEEDBACK AND THEN...
IS THAT JUST WATERFRONT THOUGH OR IS THAT ALL CRA? WHERE DO WE DRAW THE LINE? WE CAN MAKE IT ALL OF CRA.
WE'VE GOT TO CUT, YOU KNOW, JUST GOT TO HOLD US BACK.
WE'RE ALL PART OF THE CRA, SO THAT'S WHERE WE NEED TO BE AWARE OF.
I THINK FROM EXPERIENCE, I THINK...
IT'S AS SIMPLE AS THEY'RE SUGGESTING IN THE CITY'S FORMS AND GUIDELINES INTERNALLY THAT YOU GUYS USE.
LIKE WHEN I GO TO HAVE SOMETHING DONE IN MY HOUSE, I GO TO THE HTC AND SEE A GUIDELINE OF WHAT I'LL HAVE TO DO.
IF THERE'S A CRA PROJECT, EVEN THOUGH WE'RE NOT A FORMAL VOTING BLOCK FOR UP OR DOWN, WE DO RECOMMEND, AND I THINK A PRIME EXAMPLE OF.
OF WHAT GOOD WE DID WAS THE DESIGN OF THE PLATFORM.
I MEAN, WE ALL VOICED OUR OPINION OF IT, AND IT GOT TO THE HTC, AND I SAID, OH, SOMEBODY ELSE DOESN'T LIKE IT EITHER.
SO THAT'S KIND OF HOW WE CAN HELP IS, I THINK INTERNALLY IN THE MATRIX STYLE, IS HTC PLANNING AND ZONING, BUT MAYBE AT THE FRONT, SINCE WE'RE A RECOMMENDATION, THEY START WITH US, AND THEN WE GO FROM THERE.
SOMETHING LIKE THAT, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT MATRICES WHERE IT GIVES YOU GUIDANCE ON WHAT PROJECTS WITHIN THE CRA CAN KICK TO US.
IT MAY VERY WELL BE A NOTICE OF WHAT THEY'RE GOING TO DO.
THERE'S REALLY NOT MUCH FOR US TO SAY OR DO BECAUSE NONE OF THE REGULATIONS OR ANYTHING PERTAIN TO WHAT WE ARE, BUT WE SHOULD HAVE EYES ON IT.
I DON'T DISAGREE WITH WHAT THEY'RE SAYING AT ALL.
FORMALIZING THE PROCESS DOES HELP MAKE IT CONSISTENT.
I THINK THAT WOULD HELP US IMMENSELY OF WHAT JAKE TALKED ABOUT, THE MATRICES THAT Y'ALL CODIFY INTERNALLY ABOUT HOW YOU DO.
THINGS AND I THINK THAT WOULD HELP US IN SOME GUIDANCE ON WHAT WE DO I REALLY DO THAT WOULD HELP WE'RE HERE TO HELP THEM AND THEIR PROJECT AND I WAS TICKLED TO DEATH TO READ THAT HTC SAID OH WE DON'T LIKE THAT PLATFORM BUT WHAT ARE YOU LOOKING FOR US TO DO TONIGHT SO GET YOUR MAIN AREAS OF FOCUS AS KIND OF THE OVERARCHING GOALS AND THEN THE STRATEGIES MAYBE UNDERNEATH THAT THE BOARD CAN HELP WITH SO UNDER CRA DEVELOPMENT YOUR INPUT YOUR STRATEGY YOUR WORK PLAN IS ONE TO JAKE AND I WILL KIND OF PUT TOGETHER MAYBE THE PROCESS AND GET YOUR FEEDBACK ON HOW THINGS COME TO YOU AND THEN ALSO MAKE SURE THAT THINGS COME TO YOU SO THE BOARD WOULD ROOT THE BOARD STRATEGY IS TO REVIEW PROJECTS THAT ARE WITHIN THE CRA AND PROVIDE INPUT AND FEEDBACK WHETHER IT'S A CITY-OWNED PROJECT OR A PRIVATE DEVELOPER TO MAKE THE MAKE THE PROCESS FORMAL AND THEN ALSO FOLLOW THAT PROCESS SO THOSE ARE TWO STRATEGIES UNDERNEATH YOUR GOAL FOR SMART DEVELOPMENT WITHIN THE CRA DOES THAT MAKE SENSE AND I'LL TAKE ALL OF THIS I'M WRITING NOTES TAKE ALL THIS BACK PUT IT INTO SOMETHING MORE FORMAL SO IT CAN AT OUR NEXT MEETING WE'LL TALK ABOUT IT ONE MORE TIME WE CAN TWEAK LANGUAGE MAKE SURE IT'S ALL EXACTLY WHAT YOU ALL ARE LOOKING FOR AND THEN THAT WILL GET PRESENTED TO YOU.
WILL THAT BE ATTACHED TO THIS AS WELL? YEAH SO WE'VE GOT THE DEVELOPMENT PORTION OF IT WHAT ELSE WOULD YOU ALL LIKE TO FOCUS ON? I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THAT, I DON'T KNOW IF THIS FALLS UNDER THAT, BUT THAT THE PARK
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GETS MORE UTILIZED.SO WE BRING MORE PEOPLE DOWNTOWN, ALL THE WAY TO THE WATERFRONT.
I WOULD LIKE TO EVENTUALLY SEE THAT THE SOUND ZONE CENTER AND MAYBE THE FARMER'S MARKET AND THE KINGFISH TOURNAMENT BE HELD OUT OF THERE.
BECAUSE I THINK IT'S A GREAT PLACE FOR PEOPLE TO HANG OUT AND WATCH.
I MEAN, IT'LL BRING PEOPLE DOWN.
TO BRING IT DOWNTOWN INSTEAD OF BLOCKING CENTER STREET AND EVERYTHING ELSE AND I'D LIKE TO SEE US GET MORE EVENTS DONE DOWN HERE AND THAT'S WHAT IT WAS BUILT FOR BECAUSE NORMALLY PEOPLE CAME DOWN ADVICE AS WELL A AND B PARKING ISN'T TAKEN UP ANYMORE WELL THAT'S BECAUSE BRETT'S IS CLOSED THAT'S WHY WE DON'T HAVE THE FLOW THAT WE USED TO HAVE DOWN THE MARINA BECAUSE BRETT'S CLOSED NOTHING'S PULLING IT SO WE NEED TO REDIRECT SOME OF THESE EVENTS TO THE PARK SO THAT THEY'LL THEY CAN PARK HERE, THEY CAN PARK WHEREVER, BUT THEY'RE GOING TO WALK DOWNTOWN AND THEY'RE GOING TO SEE WHAT WE INVESTED IN.
THAT FALLS IN LINE WITH AN OBJECTIVE IN THE CRA PLAN BECAUSE PART OF THAT CRA PLAN IS MARKETING THE CRA, AND I THINK THAT FITS EXACTLY INTO THAT.
I WOULD TELL YOU THAT I NEVER WAS A BIG FAN OF THE PARK DOWN THERE, BUT SINCE WE'VE SPENT $2.5 MILLION ON IT, WE SHOULD USE IT.
IT'S ONE OF THE BEST, ONE OF THE WELL LIT PARKS I'VE EVER SEEN IN MY LIFE.
I MEAN WE HAVE THAT DEAD ZONE ON THE SOUTH END OF IT WHERE YOU CAN PUT ALL, A LOT OF STUFF THERE.
YOU CAN PUT THE FARMERS MARKET THERE.
I KNOW THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS TO BE DONE DOWNTOWN BUT IT'LL TAKE OFF.
INHABITING THE SHOPS AND MAKING MONEY INSTEAD OF BLOCKING THE STREETS.
AND WE ALREADY HAVE A REALLY NICE STAGE THERE.
WITH HOOKUPS AND ALL, WHEN HUP PLAYED THERE, I MEAN, IT WAS NICE.
PLENTY OF ROOM FOR CHAIRS, AND THEY'RE NOT LOOKING AT THE MILL.
AND SOMEBODY OUT OF TOWN SAID, OH, WELL, I CAN BRING MY BOAT AND STAY HERE, STAY AT THE HOTEL, AND UTILIZE THIS PARK.
IT'S LIKE A BOARD TALKED ABOUT IT FOR TWO YEARS AND THOUGHT ABOUT THOSE TYPE THINGS.
AND IT WAS INTENTIONALLY DESIGNED BY A BOARD.
YOUR STATEMENT IS YOU WANT TO PROMOTE USE OF IT.
I WANT TO FOR US TO FOCUS MORE A LITTLE BIT EFFORT INTO BRINGING MORE EVENTS DOWNTOWN I MEAN TO THE PARK SO DRIVING TRAFFIC PEDESTRIAN AND OTHERWISE ALL THE WAY DOWN TO THE WATERFRONT BECAUSE RIGHT NOW THEY IT KIND OF STOPS AT THE RAILROAD YEAH, WHERE BRETT'S WOULD BRING THEM ON DOWN PEOPLE WALK THE DOCKS AND ALL THAT NOW THEY JUST TURN AROUND, OH, THERE'S NOTHING THERE.
BUT THEY DON'T KNOW ABOUT THE PARK.
AND WHAT ARE WE CALLING THE PARK? RIVERFRONT, SUNSET, WHAT ARE WE NAMED? WHAT'S THE NAME OF THE PARK? AMELIA RIVER WATERFRONT PARK.
BUT YOU KNOW, IF SOMEONE WANTS TO SPONSOR IT, PERHAPS THE NAME COULD CHANGE.
SO WE'RE TASKED WITH COMING UP WITH OUR TOP THREE.
SO WE'VE GOT FOCUS ON THE CRA DEVELOPMENT.
WE HAVE PROMOTING AND DRIVING EVENTS DOWN TO THE WATERFRONT.
SO DEVELOPMENT AS IN DOES THAT ENCOMPASS EVERYTHING ON THE WATERFRONT? ALL OF CRA.
WELL THAT DIDN'T REALLY NARROW IT DOWN MUCH.
I THOUGHT WE WERE LOOKING AT SPECIFIC PROJECTS.
IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE A SPECIFIC PROJECT.
IT'S MORE OF A STRATEGY OF MAKING SURE YOU CAN TALK ABOUT SPECIFIC PROJECTS.
BUT IT COULD BE A SPECIFIC PROJECT LIKE THE DESIGN OF FRONT STREET.
SO I HAD...YOU BREAK...SO JUST BRINGING THAT UP, FRONT STREET, I WAS...
I WAS THINKING WHEN MEMBER ROLAND WAS TALKING ABOUT, WE WERE TALKING ABOUT THE BOAT RAMP, AND SUGGESTED MAYBE NARROWING IT DOWN TO ONE-WAY TRAFFIC OR SOMETHING THERE.
I MEAN, EVENTUALLY FROM, YOU KNOW, CENTER NORTH, YOU KNOW, WITH THE SIMMONS PROPERTY BEING DEVELOPED, WITH OUR PROPERTY, WITH THE PIER POTENTIALLY GETTING THERE.
THOSE OTHER PROPERTIES GETTING TO IT'S GOING TO GET BUSY AND
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FRONT IS REALLY NARROW AND I'M I'M WONDERING IF UH YOU KNOW IF WE'VE EVER THOUGHT ABOUT UH YOU KNOW DOING A ONE-WAY CONFIGURATION TO KEEP TRAFFIC FLOWING BECAUSE TWO-WAYS IS GOING TO BE TOO CONGESTED, I SEE.THERE HAVE BEEN STUDIES OF ONE-WAY FRONT STREET IN THE PAST, AND I THINK THAT WHERE WE'RE AT, YOU KNOW, WE'VE OPENED ALACHUA STREET, WE'VE EXTENDED THE STREETSCAPE ON NORTH FRONT STREET, ON NORTH 2ND STREET.
FRONT STREET IS REALLY YOUR LAST...
OUTSIDE OF BROOM STREET, AND I KNOW WE'VE GOT ON HERE ABOUT PEDESTRIAN CONNECTION THERE, IT'S GOING TO BE EXTREMELY HARD WITH THE RAILROAD.
BUT REALLY, YOUR MAIN STREETSCAPE THAT'S LAST AND PRIME FOR DEVELOPMENT NOW WITH THESE PRIVATE PROPERTIES COMING ON IS LOOKING AND STUDYING, DECIDING WHAT WE WANT TO DO WITH FRONT STREET TRAFFIC-WISE, PEDESTRIAN-WISE, LANDSCAPING-WISE.
ULTIMATELY, I THINK EVERYBODY WANTS TO GET PEDESTRIAN ACCESS BECAUSE HOW IT'S SO TIGHT.
THAT'S WHAT EVERYBODY WANTS TO WALK, BUT WE STILL NEED TO THINK ABOUT THAT VEHICULAR AND PEDESTRIAN CIRCULATION ON NORTH FRONT STREET, HOW IT INTERACTS WITH THE BOAT RAMP.
I AGREE WITH THAT, THAT THE BIG OVERARCHING THING, WE SHOULD LOOK AT EVERYTHING THAT'S HAPPENED IN THE CRA, BUT TO DRILL IT DOWN, I THINK FRONT STREET DEVELOPMENT.
TRAFFIC FLOW AND ALL THOSE THINGS GO ALONG WITH THAT I THINK THAT'S A REAL REAL FOCUS FOR SOME POINT IT COULD POTENTIALLY BE A PROBLEM I AGREE WITH THAT THAT'S PRETTY ONE WAY IT'S YEAH IT'S A DODGEBALL IN THERE YOU KNOW YEAH I THINK THAT THEY SHOULD CONTINUE JUST LIKE IT IS ODD AND EVEN ALL THE WAY FROM BEACH TO BROOM ONE WAY JUST LIKE SECOND STREET YOU GO NORTH THIRD STREET YOU GO SOUTH BECAUSE WHEN YOU GO RIGHT HERE ON FROM FROM CENTER, FROM BROOME, FROM ALACHUA TO BROOME, PEOPLE DON'T STOP.
I THINK IT ALL NEEDS, AND I THINK THAT'LL HELP OUT A LOT ON FRONT STREET.
AND EVEN THOUGH WE HAVE SIDEWALKS RIGHT HERE AT THE MARINA, PEOPLE DON'T USE THEM.
THEY WALK DOWN TO THE MIDDLE OF THE ROAD ANYWAY.
SO IF THEY DON'T HAVE A POLICING OR SOMETHING TO GET THEM, HEY, THAT'S WHY WE MAKE SIDEWALKS.
I THINK IT WOULD HELP THE FLOW OF TRAFFIC A LOT MORE.
I THINK WE SHOULD LOOK INTO THE ONE-WAY STREETS HERE IN TOWN, BUT SPECIFICALLY LOOK AT THE DEVELOPMENT OF FRONT STREET AND HOW WE CAN MAKE THAT WORK.
THE BIGGEST PROBLEM YOU'RE GOING TO RUN INTO IS YOUR TRUCK TRAFFIC.
BECAUSE THEY'RE FEEDING FROM THE PORT, COMING INTO TOWN.
THEY'VE GOT TO TURN AROUND AND GET BACK OUT OF TOWN.
AND THEY DO THAT TO KEEP FROM COMING DOWN THESE SIDE STREETS.
SO IF YOU DON'T KEEP IT TOO LAME, YOU'VE REALLY GOT A PROBLEM.
OFTEN YOU ONLY HAVE A ESCAPE ROUTE OUT.
SO IF I MAY, TONIGHT WE KIND OF WANT TO IDENTIFY THE ISSUES.
SO WE CAN DELVE INTO THEM OVER THE NEXT TWO YEARS.
SO FROM WHAT I'M HEARING, WHAT I WROTE DOWN WAS MORE EFFICIENT AND SAFE VEHICULAR AND PEDESTRIAN TRAFFIC FLOWS.
PROJECTS UM I PUT BOAT RAMP BECAUSE OF OUR EARLIER DISCUSSION THE FRONT STREET TRAFFIC FLOW AND THEN DOWNTOWN REVITALIZATION BECAUSE THAT WILL RECONFIGURE SIDEWALKS POTENTIALLY HOW THE STREETS WOULD BE IT BUMPS OUT A FEW YEAH YEAH AND YOU KNOW THAT'S WHEN YOU SAID THE DOWNTOWN REVITALIZATION.
LIKE THE SIDEWALKS AND THE LIGHTS SOME OF THE SIDEWALKS WOULD GET CHANGED AROUND A LITTLE BIT POTENTIALLY DIFFERENT CONFIGURATIONS FOR PARKING ALL OF THOSE THINGS MIGHT DID YOU NOT ALREADY HAVE A PLAN FOR THAT WE DO HAVE A PLAN FOR CENTER STREET YEAH FINISHED UP MOST OF THE SIDE STREETS WE'RE DOING SOME MORE DESIGN WORK FOR WATER STORM WATER AND WASTEWATER AND WE'VE ENGAGED WITH FLORIDA PUBLIC UTILITIES TO FINISH OUT THE UNDERGROUND UTILITIES ON 4TH, 5TH, AND 6TH STREET.
SO THAT WOULD BE PHASE ONE OF THAT PROJECT.
AND THEN DESIGN OF LIGHTING, REPLACEMENT OF SIDEWALKS, ALL THE CURBS WOULD BE REPLACED.
PARKING CONFIGURATION GENERALLY STAYS THE SAME.
THERE'S SOME CHANGES TO ADD HANDICAP PARKING TO ENHANCE THE CROSSWALKS.
MY POINT IS I THINK IT'S ALREADY BEEN DONE, WHAT YOU JUST TALKED ABOUT, A LOT OF THAT WORK.
THAT DOESN'T MEAN THAT YOU CAN'T PROVIDE INPUT, THAT YOU
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CAN'T MAKE SUGGESTIONS.POTENTIALLY MOVE PEOPLE TOWARDS THIS NICE PARK THAT WE BUILT AND UTILIZE IT.
AND ALSO ON THERE, I READ WHERE WE HAVE THREE TREES ON THE NORTH END WE HAVE TO DO SOMETHING WITH IN THE PARKING LOT, PALM TREES.
IT SAID IN OUR PAPERWORK THAT THREE PALM TREES NEED TO RELOCATE BECAUSE THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE TO MOVE THEM FOR STAGING IN PARKING LOT OH, YEAH, THERE PROBABLY WILL BE.
CAN WE USE THEM ON 2ND STREET? OR ALONG ON BROOME STREET THERE TO RELOCATE THEM? WE COULD LOOK AT RELOCATING THEM SOMEWHERE.
A LOT OF TIMES IT'S MORE OF A HASSLE TO RELOCATE THEM.
YOU CAN RELOCATE THOSE CABBAGE PALMS, BUT...
YOU CAN GET REPLACEMENT ONES FOR $500 TO $700.
IT'S JUST DEPENDING WHETHER IT'S WORTH IT IN THAT PARTICULAR CASE.
SO I HAVE THREE MAIN AREAS OF FOCUS.
IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE THAT YOU ALL WANT TO ADD? YOU'VE GOT...
ENCOMPASSES PRETTY MUCH EVERYTHING.
I THINK IT'S ENOUGH TO KEEP US BUSY.
I THINK Y'ALL WILL BE BUSY SO I CAN TAKE SOME OF THESE COMMENTS AND SEE HOW THEY FIT UNDER THESE THREE KIND OF GOALS THAT YOU HAVE AND WORK FROM THERE AND GIVE YOU ALL A WORKING DRAFT FOR THE NEXT MEETING.
I'LL TRY AND GET THAT OUT TO YOU A LITTLE BIT.
BEFORE PUBLICATION TO GIVE YOU SOME MORE TIME TO WORK WITH IT MAKE NOTES AND COMMENTS AND BE PREPARED FOR OUR DISCUSSION AT THE NEXT MEETING IF THAT WORKS FOR YOU OVERSIMPLIFY OH WE COULD JUST TAKE EVERYTHING EVERYBODY DIDN'T TELL CHAT GPT TO PUT IT INTO TOP THREE IT'S AMAZING I HAVE FEELINGS ON CHAT GPT HEY PERPLEXITY QUIT I KNOW, I'M TRYING TO MAKE HER EXTRA TIME TO DO OTHER THINGS.
ALL RIGHT, ANY MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC WANT TO COMMENT? ALL RIGHT, ANY ADDITIONAL DISCUSSION? UNDER NEW BUSINESS? THAT WAS STILL THE OLD
[8. NEW BUSINESS]
BUSINESS.I DON'T KNOW WHAT TO PUT ON HERE.
PEOPLE THAT RUN BUSINESSES OUT OF PARKING LOT A AND B, PARKING ONE SENT ME TO KATIE.
WE HAVE EIGHT HOURS, BUT A LOT OF TIMES THESE BOATS ARE GOING TO BE OUT PAST SIX O'CLOCK IN THE AFTERNOON, AND THEY WERE THERE ALL DAY.
THEY'LL RUN A SIX AND A FOUR, ESPECIALLY IF WE GET SNAPPER THIS YEAR.
IS THERE ANY WAY THAT THEY CAN GET AN EXTENDED ON THEIR PERMITS? WE'RE WORKING ON THAT.
FOR PEOPLE THAT HAVE SLIPS AND ALL, ARE PEOPLE...
YOU CAN PARK PAY FOR A&B OR YOU CAN PARK FREE IN C&D.
AND WHENEVER THEY COME IN, WE TELL THEM, HEY, PAY FOR AN EXTRA HOUR.
WE'RE GOING TO BE OUT FOR IT, BUT JUST GO AHEAD AND PAY FOR AN EXTRA HOUR JUST IN CASE.
I'M WORKING WITH THE VENDOR ON THAT SOLUTION.
OKAY, BECAUSE I KNOW Y'ALL HAVE IT WHERE THERE'S OTHER VEHICLES THAT ARE EXEMPT THERE, AND THEY DO THE SAME THING WITH THEIR TAG NUMBERS.
I MEAN YOU CAN PUT US ON THE WHITE LIST.
THE WHITE LIST IS FOR BASICALLY CITY WORKING VEHICLES AND EMERGENCY VEHICLES.
IF THEY COULD DO SOMETHING LIKE THAT, I MEAN WE HAVE BUSINESS PERMITS, WE'RE NOT PARKING ANYWHERE ELSE, THEY'RE PARKING DOWNTOWN, THEY HAVE THEIR SLIP HOLDERS PAYING BIG BUCKS.
AND IF WE BREAK DOWN OFFSHORE YOU DON'T HAVE COMMUNICATION SO IT'D BE AWESOME IF YOU COULD DO THAT FOR THE RENTERS OF THOSE SLIPS THAT DO COMMERCIAL AND ARE POSSIBLY GOING TO...
WE HAVE THE ULTIMATE PAID PARKING.
IT'S REALLY EXPENSIVE TO PARK YOUR BOAT DOWN THERE.
I'M OUT AT SHOWINGS AND MY SHOWINGS GO LONG.
IF YOU EVER NEED A BOAT THAT SAYS THEY WANT TO SEE IT BY THE RIVER JUST CALL ME.
THEY ARE INVESTING IN OUR DOWNTOWN.
MY REPORT IS FINALLY WE'RE GOING THROUGH WITH STANDARD MARINE.
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$15,000.IS THAT YOUR DAUGHTER THAT WAS DOING THAT VIDEO WITH YOU AT STANDARD HARDWARE? NO, THAT WAS SITTING IN PLACE.
AND THEN ALSO, WE'VE GOT THE ALACHUA STREET PROPERTY UNDER CONTRACT WITH A DEVELOPER.
SO, STILL IN DUE DILIGENCE WITH THAT.
ON THE FLANNERY PROPERTY? THAT ALACHUA, THE END OF ALACHUA WHERE THE...
ROPES ARE DOWN THERE AND THERE'S A KIND OF A GRAVEL PIT.
IS THERE IS IT NO PARKING THERE REALLY? IT'S A CITY PROPERTY.
SO WHY IS THAT? TURN THAT OVER TO OUR PARKING EXPERT.
IT HAS NO PARKING THERE BECAUSE IT'S NOT SET UP TO BE A PARKING LOT.
WELL WE KIND OF DID ALLOW THAT'S WHY THE THE POSTS ARE SET BACK ON THE SIDE, SO YOU TECHNICALLY CAN GET A SPOT THERE, BUT IT WAS A DEBATE WHETHER IT SHOULD BE USED FOR PARKING OR NOT.
WHY WOULDN'T YOU USE IT FOR PARKING? PEOPLE WANT IT TO BE MORE OF A PARK, YES, CORRECT.
PEOPLE WANT IT TO BE MORE OF A PARK SPACE, BUT UNTIL WE GET THE SEAWALL DESIGNED, IT FLOODS, AS WE ALL KNOW.
AND SO TO INVEST MONEY IN SOMETHING AS FAR AS LANDSCAPING AND ENHANCEMENTS, IT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE RIGHT NOW UNTIL THE FLOOD PROTECTION IS IN PLACE.
SO WHY DID WE PUT THE NO PARKING SPACE SIGNS UP THERE? THAT'S NOT MY CALL.
WE CAN FOLLOW UP WITH CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE.
I'D JUST LIKE TO KNOW, WHY WOULD WE DO THAT? WHY WOULD WE JUST SAY NO PARKING FOR NO REASON? I THINK IT'S A GOOD IDEA TO KEEP IT CLEAR OF NO PARKING BECAUSE IT'S A GREAT SIGHT LINE.
YOU FIND YOUR PARKING SPACE AT ALACHUA OR SOMEWHERE AROUND STANDARD MARINE.
I DON'T WANT TO SAY IT TOO LOUD, BUT IT'S PROBABLY THE BEST SPOT TO GO CATCH A SUNSET, BAR NONE.
AND IT USED TO BE ON TOP OF THE SALTY PELICAN ON OUR DECK, BUT WHEN MR. SIMMONS' BUILD IS, THAT'S GOING TO GO AWAY.
AND THE CLEANER WE CAN KEEP THAT SIGHT LINE ALL THE WAY DOWN.
THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS WHY ALACHUA STREET WAS BUILT, BECAUSE THE CITY DOES OWN THAT PROPERTY RIGHT THERE.
NO DIFFERENT THAN THE BEACH WALKOVERS.
SOMEBODY YEARS AGO IN THE CITY SAID, LET'S JUST KEEP THAT CITY PROPERTY SO WE'RE ABLE TO BUILD BEACH WALKOVERS.
SO I THINK 50 YEARS FROM NOW, PEOPLE ARE GOING TO SAY, BOY, THAT WAS A GOOD IDEA.
MAYBE THE ONLY PLACE WE CAN GO WATCH A SUNSET.
HOPEFULLY THERE'S GOING TO BE A FISHING PIER THERE.
THAT'D BE A GREAT SPOT FOR IT TOO.
THAT'S WHERE WE WERE TALKING ABOUT.
SO THAT'S JUST MY TWO CENTS ON THAT.
I DON'T THINK IT SHOULD BE A LOT TO IT THAT'S ONE THAT WE HAD WAS UP FOR SALE AND THEN THEY DROPPED IT.
SO WE'RE WE'RE A GREAT FIELDS PARKING IS THAT'S UNDER CONTRACT MY LIBERTY TO SAY YES BUT IT'LL HAVE A GREAT VIEW.
WHAT ABOUT WHERE WE'RE GREAT FEELS GOOD.
THERE YOU GO ERIC WAS TRYING TO SELL HIM THE OCEAN OUTBOARD.
ARE YOU OPEN TO THAT? WHAT? I'LL PASS YOU ALONG.
YOU DON'T NEED TO PASS ME ALONG.
HE MIGHT BE QUIET, BUT HE AIN'T.
THAT'S WHY HE WAS DREADED IN THAT PICTURE.
HE'S SPICY JUST BECAUSE HE'S ON THE.
[9. BOARD MEMBER REPORTS/COMMENTS]
I DO WANT A GRAND MARSHAL.ANY OTHER REPORTS OR COMMENTS? I JUST HAVE A COMMENT.
I WAS FORTUNATE TO GO TO THE OPENING OF THE AMELIA RIVER WATERFRONT PARK.
JAKE, KATIE, AND THE WHOLE CITY STAFF, I THINK Y'ALL DID ONE HECK OF A JOB ON THAT PROJECT.
THE PEOPLE ENJOYED THEMSELVES IMMENSELY.
HUP AND HONEY BADGERS WERE OUTSTANDING.
I THINK IT WILL BECOME A DRAW ON ITS OWN.
WE DON'T NEED TO DRIVE A WHOLE LOT THERE, BUT I THINK WITH A LITTLE BIT OF HELP, IT WILL BECOME A PREMIER PLACE FOR PEOPLE.
FIGURES OUT THE NICE SOUND STAGE THEY HAVE.
I THINK IT'LL BE ANOTHER GREAT VENUE FOR US.
I WAS PLEASANTLY PLEASED AND I THINK EVERYBODY IN THE CITY AND THOSE PEOPLE THAT VISIT WILL FIND IT A GREAT PLACE TO BE.
IT'LL BE THE SECOND MOST PLACE TO SEE THE SUNSET BEHIND THE LATCHAW STREET.
WELL, IT'S GOING TO BE THE BEST PLACE TO SEE THE SUNSET SO THAT WAY NOBODY CAN HORN IN ON YOURS.
YES, SIR? YEAH, I HAVE ONE MORE THING.
I'D JUST LIKE TO MAKE A COMMENT THAT I'M REALLY EXCITED ABOUT US TAKING OVER THE OPERATIONS OF THE MARINA.
I SEE A LOT OF BENEFITS TO IT.
I'VE BEEN IN FAVOR OF IT FOR A
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LONG TIME AND THE NUMBERS ARE COMING BACK REALLY GOOD, SOMETHING TO BE EXCITED ABOUT AND GLAD YOU'RE RUNNING THINGS OVER THERE CHRIS.FROM THE REPORTS WE'RE GETTING IT SEEMS LIKE THINGS ARE LOOKING UP AND AND I THINK AS FAR AS IT COMING UNDER THE OPERATION OF THE CITY, I THINK IT BUILDS A LITTLE BIT MORE PRIDE.
BECAUSE IT'S PART OF THE CITY, IT'S NOT A CORPORATION OR SOMEBODY THAT DOESN'T HAVE ANY TIES TO THE CITY.
SO I'M JUST REALLY EXCITED AND I'M OPTIMISTIC THAT THINGS ARE GOING TO WORK OUT AND IMPROVE.
I THINK IT'S GREAT THAT EVERYTHING I SEE SAYS BERNADINE, THE HARD-WORKING.
FERNANDINA HARBOR AND THAT'S THE WAY IT SHOULD BE AND TO ECHO THE PARK IS AWESOME I WAS THERE AND IT WAS GREAT I THINK THAT WE COULD REALLY UTILIZE THAT SPOT ANY OTHER BUSINESS WELCOME ABOARD JIM THANK YOU JOIN THE PARADE ARE YOU SURE
[10. NEXT MEETING DATE]
YOU WANT TO STAY SO MUCH FUN SO FAR ALL RIGHT NEXT MEETING THE REGULAR SCHEDULE FALLS ON MEMORIAL DAY.I WILL BE OUT OF TOWN THAT DAY.
SO THE MEETING IS SCHEDULED FOR TUESDAY, MAY 26TH AT 6.
DOES THAT WORK? IT'S TUESDAY, NOT MONDAY, 26TH.
HOW DID I GET THAT? THAT WORKS.
HOW MANY SHRIMP BOATS ARE WE GOING TO HAVE? CHRIS? THREE.
IS THE GRAND PUJOL GOING TO BE THERE? I'M GOING TO PUT IT BEHIND THE BREAKWATER THERE.
YEAH, WHERE YOU ALWAYS SAY? YEAH.
WHAT ABOUT THE DINGHY BOATS? YOU GOING TO MOVE THEM OUT OF THERE? ARE WE ADJOURNED? YEAH, THAT'S WHAT NATE TOLD ME TODAY.
WE'RE GOING TO BACK HIM OUT OF HERE.
MEETING ADJOURNED.
* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.