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>>>WE CALLED THE MEETING TO ORDER FOR THE GOLF COURSE COMMUNITY BOARD FOR FERNAND AND DINO BEACH. I WILL CALL THE ROLL. HELEN HEARST.

>> HERE. >> LIMERICK. >> HERE.

>> PHILIP JONES. >> HERE. >> PHILIP CHAPMAN.

>> HERE. >> STEVE MERCY. >> HERE.

>> AND MARY KEGLER HERE. YOU WILL HAVE A COPY OF THE MINUTES FROM THE LAST MEETING.

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SOMEBODY MOVED TO APPROVE. >> I'M READY TO APPROVE. >> I SECOND.

>> ALL IN FAVOR? >> I. >> OLD BUSINESS.

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RIGHT NOW WE ARE IN DISCUSSIONS WE ARE HOPING TO PRESENT SOMETHING TO THE ADVISORY BOARD THE FIRST MEETING IN JANUARY WHICH WOULD THEN BE ON THE CITY COMMISSION AGENDA THE WEEK AFTER THAT. THAT'S WHAT OUR HOPES ARE RIGHT NOW.

CURRENTLY THE ANALYST IS STILL LOOKING AT NUMBERS IN THE BUSINESS PLAN.

SO, WITH HOLIDAYS AND EVERYTHING GOING ON NEXT MONTH AND EVERYTHING, YOU'RE LOOKING AT THE MEETING IN JANUARY TO PRESENT TO YOU GUYS FOR APPROVAL AND/OR DISMISSAL, WHICHEVER YOU PREFER. AND THAT WOULD BE BROUGHT TO THE COMMISSION THE FOLLOWING

WEEK. >> THE PROPOSAL THAT YOU'RE WORKING WITH ZANTAC?

>> I'M NOT WORKING WITH ZANTAC. I'M NOT WORKING WITH ANYBODY BECAUSE IT IS A CITY PROJECT.

I'M GIVING INPUT WHERE IT'S NECESSARY. THEY HAVE A CONSULTANT WORKING

ON THE CONSULTANT IN THE BUSINESS PLAN. >> THE MEETING IN JANUARY 8.

>> YES. ANY QUESTIONS ON THAT? >> I'M JUST TRYING TO COME UP

WITH A FIVE OR 10 YEAR PLAN TO MAKE THE DOLLARS WERE? >> YES.

TO REALIZE WHAT THE ACTUAL INVESTMENT IS AS WELL AS THE PAYBACK ON IT.

OKAY. >> AS WELL AS THE OPERATING CENTERS.

>> TO SET -- ARE YOU -- I HAVE TO GO BACK AND REMEMBER YOUR TAMPAX PROJECT.

IT LOOKS LIKE YOU DID THE CAR. >> THAT WAS TAKEN CARE OF. WE DONATED THE PAINT FOR THAT.

>> RIGHT. SO IS THIS PART OF THAT PLAN? >> THAT'S INCLUDED IN IT.

. THIS IS THE FIRST TIME THAT'S BEEN DONE?

>> THE TENURE PROJECT ãTHE 10 YEAR PROJECTION OR THE FEASIBILITY STUDY?

>> AS FAR AS ANOTHER INVESTMENT FOR THE CITY, YES. THIS IS THE FIRST ON MY WATCH.

>> OKAY. THAT'S GREAT. >> THERE IS ANOTHER PIECE OF OLD BUSINESS TO GO THERE WITH THAT. AND I APOLOGIZE FOR NOT PUTTING IT ON THE AGENDA. IT WAS THE DELRAY ISSUE THAT WAS DISCUSSED LAST MONTH AND LOOKING FOR FEEDBACK TO THE BOARD IS TOPIC WE WOULD LIKE TO PROCEED MOVING FORWARD.

>> I'D LIKE TO RECOMMEND THAT THE COMMISSIONERS, THE CITY MANAGER, TALK TO THEM HAVE THE PROPERTY TAKEN OVER BY THE CITY TO DO THE MAINTENANCE ON THAT -- ON THAT CITY PROPERTY MAINLY BECAUSE WE'VE GOT A SMALL STAFF AT THE GOLF COURSE TO TAKE CARE OF 27 HOLES.

I DON'T THINK WE SHOULD BE RESPONSIBLE FOR THE MAINTENANCE OF THAT AREA AND THE RESIDENTS IN THAT AREA ARE NOT TREATING NOT PROPERLY, THE WAY THAT THEY SHOULD.

MAYBE IF THE CITY IS TAKEN CARE OF IT, SOMEBODY IN THE CITY WOULD REINFORCE TO THOSE RESIDENTS IN THAT AREA HOW THEY SHOULD BE DEALING WITH THEIR TRASH AND GARBAGE.

SO WE DON'T HAVE ANY AUTHORITY TO DO ANYTHING WITH THAT. AND YET, OR PEOPLE HAVE TO DEAL WITH IT. SO I WOULD RECOMMEND THAT THE COMMISSIONERS TAKE THAT TO THE CITY MANAGER AND GET HIM TO TAKE THAT BACK TO THE MAINTENANCE PEOPLE WITHIN THE

CITY TO TAKE CARE OF IT. >> WAS ABSENT LAST MEETING. I'M NOT FULLY UP TO SPEED ON

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THE ISSUE. WHEN YOU COMING OFF OF THE PARKWAY --

>> THAT'S THE -- AND PEOPLE PUT THEIR TRASH IN THE GARBAGE OUT IN THE CENTER AREA.

>> IN THE STRIP. >> UH-UH (AFFIRMATIVE). >> THE GOLF COURSE IS

RESPONSIBLE FOR MAINTENANCE. >> AND IT IS IN OUR PROPERTY. >> WOULD YOU KNOW WHEN YOU PUT YOUR TRASH AT THE EDGE OF YOUR YARD, -- IS NOT -- VERY GOOD, PHIL (LAUGHING).

>> WELL, NEED -- YOU COULD BE A GOOD STREET MAN. >> (LAUGHING).

>> WELL, SO, SO IS THE PROBLEM THE CITIES -- THE GOLF COURSE PROBLEM OR THE CITY TRASH COLLECTOR PROBLEM? A LOT OF PEOPLE PICK IT UP AND ARE NOT SUPPOSED TO BE PICKING

UP, I MISSED A LOT OF -- I LIST A LOT OF DISCUSSION. >> THE GOLF COURSE HAS BEEN

GOING THAT AREA AND MAINTAINING A. >> OKAY.

SO IT'S NOT JUST THE TRASH CANS COMMENTS TRASH ITSELF. >> CATCHER.

>> IN THE YARD TO BREAK THE WORK MASTERS IS AND STUFF LIKE THAT OUT THERE.

. THE GOLF COURSE ITSELF HAS NO TEETH AND TRYING TO GET THE

HOMEOWNERS TO DO IT. >> RIGHT. THE HOMEOWNERS ALREADY PAYING

THE CITY TO PICK IT UP RIGHT T . >> THAT'S CORRECT.

>> ANYTHING ELSE. >> WE SHOULD PROBABLY DO A MOTION ON THAT.

A MOTION ON THE SUGGESTION THAT THE COMMISSIONERS DISCUSSED THIS WITH THE CITY MANAGER.

>> AND SOMEBODY IN THE BOARD SHOULD CONTACT THE COMMISSIONERS AND LET THEM KNOW

OF OUR POSITION AND/OR LETTER. >> OKAY. >> I SECONDED.

>> ALL IN FAVOR? >> I. >> MOTION FOR US TO CONTACT THE CITY COMMISSION AND TO ASK HIM TO ADDRESS THE ISSUE ãMET WITH THE CITY MISSION.

>> OF THREE CANONIST -- YOU HAVE THREE CITY COMMISSIONERS RIGHT HERE.

>> RIGHT. BUT YOU HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE PROCESS.

>> AND LOSS AS A BOARD WILL DRAFT A LETTER. >> BEFORE YOU VOTE ON THIS MOTION WOULD YOU LIKE TO ASK ANY OF THE COMMISSIONERS PRESENT FOR THEIR -- ONLY SPEAK

WHEN SPOKEN TO. >> ARE. >> COMMISSIONERS, JOB AND

OPINION? >> I THINK THE LETTER WOULD BE APPROPRIATE.

>> THANK YOU. >> I CONCUR. >> LIKEWISE.

MOTION IS IMPORTANT. >> THANK YOU. OKAY.

THE MOTION HAS BEEN STATED. >> ARE YOU GOING TO PHRASE THE MOTION OR KEY.

>> THAT WE, AS THE ADVISORY BOARD, WRITE A LETTER TO THE CITY MANAGER ASKING HIM TO ADDRESS THIS ISSUE AND GET APPROVAL OF THE COMMISSIONERS TO HAVE THE CITY TAKE THE

MAINTENANCE OF THAT AREA BACK OVER AS CITY RESPONSIBILITY. >> OKAY.

>> CAN I HAVE A QUESTION -- I ASKED QUESTION BEFORE YOU VOTE ON THAT? MY NAME IS MIKE MEADOWS 2601 ADORING. ARE YOU, STEVE, YOU WILL PROPOSING TO AS THE CITY FOR ALL Y'ALL -- I NEED SOME DIRECTION FROM YOU TAKING OVER THE MEDIAN GOING DOWN THE ROAD -- WHAT AREAS ALONG THE FENCE LINE ARE YOU GOING TO MAINTAIN THE AREA ALONG THE CITY GOLF COURSE, THE WHITE FRIENDS FROM THE GOLF.

>> THE MEETING IS IN THE MOTIO . >> OKAY.

WELL, AT THE END OF THE END DELRAY, THERE'S A HUGE TRASH PILE.

I CALL IT THE MONSTER THAT GROWS. THEN THE -- THAT'S NEVER CLEANED UP. PNOBODY EVER RAKES IT AND CLEAN UP THE REPAIRED WHEN YOU PICK UP THE DEBRIS, YOU LEAVE A LOT OF DISTURBANCE AND DEBRIS LAYING AROUND.

I TOOK SOME PICTURES. YOU CAN CLEARLY SEE WERE BIG TRUCKS ARE BACKING IN THEIR, THE DOOLEY'S ARE BACKING IN THERE AND JUMPING. I'VE GOT PICTURES OF WHERE PEOPLE HAVE DUMPED. WE HAVE SENT THESE PICTURES AND FOUR YEARS.

ARE Y'ALL GOING TO START MAINTAINING THAT LIKE ON A WEEKLY BASIS?

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GETTING IN THERE AND CLEANING THAT AREA UP? >> WHEN THERE'S NO DEBRIS

THERE, YES. >> WELL. >> IN WHICH CASES -- IF THERE IS DEBRIS THAT'S A CODE ENFORCEMENT ISSUE. ME BEING A CONTRACT EMPLOYEE, I

DON'T HAVE -- >> I UNDERSTAND. I'M TRYING TO MAKE A POINT TO AGREE THAT WHEN -- I PUT DEBRIS ON MY PROPERTY AT THE CORNER OF MY PROPERTY IN MY YARD.

I HAVE A TENDENCY TO GO OUT AND RAKE IT UP AND CLEAN IT UP AND MAKE SURE IT'S GONE.

AT THE END OF OUR STREET, YOU HAVE THIS BIG DEBRIS PILE THERE WEEKLY.

AND -- WHERE TRUCKS ARE BACKING IN THEIR AND DUMPING. AND WHEN THE TRUST DEPARTMENT COMES IN AND PICKS IT UP, IT'S A MESS. AND IT'S RIGHT AT THE ENTRANCE OF THE NUMBER ONE SOUTH. IT'S ON YOUR DRIVE DOWN TO THE GOLD COURSE.

SO ARE Y'ALL GOING TO START CLEANING THAT UP IN -- I USED TO GO IN CLEANUP.

I'VE GOT PICTURES WHY WENT DOWN AND CLEANED UP. ANOTHER ONE OF MY NEIGHBORS DID FOR LONG TIME. HE GOT TIRED OF IT QUIT. BUT IT LOOKS REALLY BAD.

SO YOU'RE GOING TO START MAINTAINING THAT UNLIKE A WEEKLY BASIS?

I MEAN. >> WHEN THERE IS NO DEBRIS WE WILL KEEP AN EYE OUT TO

CLEANUP. >> IS THE DEBRIS ON CITY PROPERTY?

>> IT'S ON RIGHT AWAY PROPERTY. >> RIGHT AWAY PROPERTY. >> IT'S ONLY RIGHT AWAY PROPERTY BUT, THERE ARE A LOT OF HOMES IN THAT AREA IN THE COUNTY YOU MIGHT BE AWARE OF THAT, A LOT OF PEOPLE COME THERE FROM OUT OF THE CITY AND USE THAT AS A DUMPING AREA.

>> ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT RIGHT AT THE CURB. >> YES.

NUMBER ONE SOUTH. >> YES. >> A LOT OF PEOPLE COME THERE -- AS I SAID GOT A PICTURE BE GLAD TO SHOW IT TO THE COMMISSIONERS.

WHERE DOOLEY TRUCKS HAVE BACKED UP TO THAT AREA AND DUMPED. AND I CAN SHOW YOUR PICTURE RECENTLY TAKEN, SINCE THE LAST MEETING WHERE A LARGE PILE OF DEBRIS WAS JUMPED THERE.

AND IT WASN'T -- IT WAS -- IT WASN'T PEOPLE ON MY STREET. THIS DUMP IS ON MY STREET.

SO, I'VE BEEN TRYING TO GET THAT TAKEN CARE OF FOR YEARS. WE DID HAVE A NO DUMPING SIGN BUT UP THERE AND IT STOPPED. BUT, THE CITY TOOK IT DOWN. SO WE ARE NOT THE ONES USING

IT. >> WILL OF THE CITY -- IF THE CITY TAKES OVER THE RESPONSIBILITY FOR THE MEDIUM, THEN WE WILL ADDRESS THAT AREA AT THE SAME TIME.

>> I WOULD APPRECIATE IT. >> THIS IS -- GOES ALONG WITH WHAT WE TALKED ABOUT MARKETING, WHEN PEOPLE ARE COMING DOWN TO TALK TO YOUR CITY GOLF COURSE ABOUT HAVING EVENTS IN OUR CITY, AND THEY'RE SAYING PILE OF MATTRESSES AND DEBRIS -- AS I SAID LAST WEEK, THE CAR SHOW -- DURING THE CAR SHOW, STEVE ã MAKE YOU -- I THINK YOU ACKNOWLEDGED LAST -- HUGE IN THE MEDIAN DURING THE CAR SHOW SOMEBODY DECIDED TO CLEAN OUT THERE.

-- OR GARAGE OR HOUSE AND DUMPED IT. THAT'S -- ONCE AGAIN, THAT

SOMETHING THIS COMMITTEE SHOULD BE CONCERNED ABOUT. >> THOSE ARE YOUR NEIGHBORS AND

WE HAVE NO AUTHORITY. >> I HAVE NO AUTHORITY WITH THEM.

THE CITY -- ST SAID THE CITY IS ONE THAT HAS THE TEETH. SO I UNDERSTAND EVERYBODY'S POSITION, BUT AT LEAST THE PLACE DOWN THE INTO THE STREET, WHERE THAT LARGE DEBRIS PILE

IS. >> MY, WHY DID THEY TAKE THE SIGN DOWN, THE NO DUMPING SIGN

DOWN. >> STEVE, DO YOU KNOW? >> NOW.

>> FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND, SOME OF THE -- THE CONDOS DOWN THERE WANTED TO USE THAT AREA TO PUT THEIR DEBRIS. BUT I DON'T THINK THEY PUT THAT MUCH THERE.

BUT IF YOU CREATED SOMETHING THAT LOOKS LIKE A DUMP COMMENTS GOING TO BE USED AS A DUMP.

AND THAT IS WHAT THAT'S TURNED INTO. THAT JUST ME I DO.

>> I THINK THERE'S A LOT OF PLACES LIKE THAT ON THE HUMAN. I'VE GOT ONE RIGHT ACROSS FROM A QUICK SEGMENT. WILL THANK YOU. I APPRECIATE IT.

AND I APOLOGIZE BUT, THAT'S -- I BELIEVE A LOT OF THIS IS ON CODE ENFORCEMENT.

BUT I THINK IT'S PART OF SILVER CODE ENFORCEMENT. >> OF THANK YOU.

I APPRECIATE IT. >> OKAY. THANK YOU, MIKE.

LET ME ADD TO WHAT HE'S TALKING ABOUT. 1586 CANNOT BE TRIED.

>> READ -- A PARKWAY NORTH WE HAD OUR HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION MEETING LAST NIGHT.

AND WE HAVE A STREET, WHICH IS A DEAD-END. IT'S A CUL-DE-SAC.

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IT ONLY HAS TO HOMES ON IT. BUT WHAT IS HAPPENING IS THAT WE HAVE WORKERS, WHERE PEOPLE FROM THE COUNTY, ARE USING THAT AREA AS A DUMP. AND SO, TO YOUR POINT, THIS IS WHAT'S HAPPENING ON THE ISLAND IS THAT YOU HAVE PEOPLE LOOKING FOR ISOLATED POCKETS IN NEIGHBORHOODS AND USING IT AS A DUMP SITE. YOU ARE RIGHT.

WE HAVE TO NOTIFY CODE ENFORCEMENT TO SPOT THESE AREAS AND CATCH THE PEOPLE.

SO MY RECOMMENDATION TO MY FELLOW PROPERTY OWNERS WAS IF YOU SEE SOMEONE TAKE THEIR PHOTO. JUST SO YOU KNOW IT'S NOT ISOLATED TO YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD.

>>. >> YOU CAN PUT ASSIGNOR BUT DESPERATE WORKS.

>> NOT IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD IS NOT WORK. >> WE KNOW AT THE BEACH WALK.

>> OKAY. (MULTIPLE SPEAKERS). >> IT WOULD INTERPRET THAT WE.

>> UP WITH HER. SO ANYWAY IT'S NOT ISOLATED. >> THANK YOU.

>> WE HAVE A MOTION IN A SECOND WE NEED A VOTE. >> A SECOND MOTION IS TO INCLUDE IN OUR LETTER TO THE CITY MANAGER ABOUT THE AREA THAT PEOPLE ARE DUMPING POSSIBLY CODE ENFORCEMENT VIOLATIONS, THAT WE NEED TO ADDRESS.

>> THANK YOU. WE WILL ADD THAT TO THE MOTION. LET'S GO AHEAD WITH A SECOND.

>> I WILL SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR? I.

WE WILL DRAFT THE LETTER. OKAY. >> NEW BUSINESS.

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FINANCIALS. ALL RIGHT. THE MONTH OF OCTOBER WE ARE UP A LITTLE BIT FROM LAST YEAR. IT'S MAINLY DUE TO THE AMOUNT OF EVENTS THAT WE HAD, THE COMPLIMENTS THAT WE HAD. WE HAD HIGH SCHOOL DISTRICT MATCHES OUT THERE FOR A FEW DAYS BOYS AND GIRLS. IN BOTH THOSE MATCHES, THE FERNANDINA BEACH TEAM TOOK SECOND. SO THEY ALL MADE IT TO THE STATE.

THE BOYS DID NOT FARE SO WELL IN THE STATE. THE GIRLS WITH THE NUMBER ONE

PUBLIC SCHOOL. >> THAT'S GOOD. >> WE RAISE THE MATTER -- MEMBERSHIP PRICES. WE LOST SEVEN PERCENT. THE GOOD NEWS IS THAT SEVEN PERCENT AS WELL AS ANOTHER 10 PEOPLE GOT FREQUENT PLAYER CARDS SO WE CAN GET THE MONEY YOU PROBABLY WILL GET THE MONEY THROUGHOUT THE YEAR BECAUSE OF YOU PAYING HIGHER RATES.

I'LL END UP GIVING US THAT MONEY OVER THE NEXT 12 MONTHS. >> WOULD NEVER DONE VERY GOOD MONTH. THAT'S THE BEST MONTH UPDATE SINCE CASPER TOOK OVER.

SHE REALLY KNOCKED IT OUT OF THE BALLPARK LAST MONTH. AND AT THE TIME OF THIS, THE PN ELSE HAD NOT BEEN FINALIZED. COMPUTATION WAS 12 PERCENT OVER BUDGET TO THE BOTTOM LINE.

>> STEVE, BACK TO THE TOTAL REVENUE,, WELL THE PERFORMANCE OF THE TEAMS, IF WE WERE TO GO WITH THE STAND TO PROJECT, WITHOUT PROVIDE BETTER FACILITIES FOR THE HIGH SCHOOL

AND JUNIOR HIGH TO IMPROVE THEIR GAME AND IMPROVE AS. >> IT WILL PROVIDE BETTER

FACILITIES FOR EVERYBODY THAT WANTS TO VISIT IT. >> RIGHT.

TO IMPROVE THEIR GAME. >> ). >> AS WELL AS HIGH SCHOOL.

>> OF NOTICE WE HAD CROSS-COUNTRY EVENTS WHICH IS NEW BUT ANYTIME YOU'RE SO

THAT'S A CONCESSIONS INCREASING ACTIVITY ALSO WRITE. >> AND WE ALSO RENT THE PROPERTY TO THEM. SO THERE IS REVENUE GENERATION FROM THAT.

BUT THE BEST -- TO ME, IT'S -- IT'S A -- IT'S A NEIGHBORHOOD PIECE.

SUBMIT THE PIECE TO THE ISLAND TO HAVE THOSE BECAUSE WHEN SOME OF THOSE RUNNERS AND THE SPECTATORS COME UP WITH THOSE THINGS, THEY SAY THIS IS INCREDIBLE.

THEN THEY COME OUT AND PLAY. SO IT -- THE COMMUNITY PIECE HELPS US THROUGHOUT THE YEAR BY

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HAVING THESE THINGS BECAUSE IT PUTS MORE EYES ON THE PROPERTY THAT NORMALLY WOULDN'T SAY IT.

>> AND MY THOUGHT WAS ARE THERE ANY OTHER COMMUNITY PIECES THAT WE COULD DO THE SAME WITH TO MAYBE YOU KNOW HE WAS THE NINE HOLES THAT IS FOR YOUR USE NINE HOLES FOR SIMILAR ACTIVITIES?

>> YES. I MEAN THE INDIVIDUAL IS THE GENTLEMAN THAT PUTS HER MOST OF THESE RUNS IS ACTUALLY OUT PROMOTING US TO ALL THE OTHER RUNS AROUND THE ISLAND AND SUGGESTING THAT THEY COME. I MADE DIRECT NEGOTIATIONS WITH ONE OTHER GROUP THEY WANT TO HAVE ANOTHER RUN THERE IN JANUARY. AND THE BEAUTIFUL PART ABOUT THOSE IS IT'S ONE DAY. THEY COME IN BY 11:00 O'CLOCK THEY ARE CLEANED UP AND GONE AND THE GOLF COURSE, LITERALLY DOES ALMOST NOTHING TO HELP THESE EVENTS.

I MEAN DAVID ASKED ABOUT, WHAT, HUNDRED YARDS? AND THAT'S IT.

THEY SET UP AND BREAKDOWN. THEY CLEAN UP EVERYTHING. >> I NOTICED THAT THE CLEANUP -- TO CLEAN UP, TOO. THEY LEAVE IT JUST LIKE THEY FOUND A.

>> EXACTLY. IT'S HAVING OUR WORK FOR THE OLD GOLF COURSE IN THE COMMUNITY PIECE -- ARMED FORCES DAY, AND THAT'S HUGE BECAUSE IT BRINGS PEOPLE FROM THROUGHOUT THE COUNTRY AND ESPECIALLY THE JACKSONVILLE AREA NOW THEY HAVE THEIR EYES ON THE PROPERTY.

THEY'VE SEEN THE PROGRESSION OF THE GOLF COURSE OVER THE YEARS. MY FIRST TWO DOING IT THEY HAD -- IT WAS A FAST COURSE. IT WAS HARDPAN ENTERED. I KNOW OVER THE YEARS TIMES HAVE SLOWED DOWN BECAUSE I HAVE GRASS TO RUN ON. (LAUGHING) THANK YOU.

>> FOOD AND BEVERAGE HAD A GREAT MONTH. THE CONTRIBUTION WAS THE BEST, 12 PERCENT OVER BUDGET. THAT WAS FANTASTIC. TOTAL REVENUE FELL OFF A COUPLE THOUSAND DOLLARS BUT THAT COMMENT MY PAIN WAS DUE TO THE MEMBERSHIP PRICE INCREASE.

ANY QUESTIONS ON THE FINANCIALS? >> I JUST WANT TO COMMENT ON THE GOLF REVENUE. WE'VE LOST -- WE'VE LOST A GROUP OF MONDAY PLAYERS WHO HAVE GONE OVER TO THE ISLAND. THERE USED TO BE A BLITZ ON MONDAY MORNINGS.

AND THEY'VE GONE OVER AND BROUGHT A MEMBERSHIP OVER THERE AND ARE PLAYING THEY ARE MONDAY -- THERE MONDAY BENT OVER THERE NOW. THERE IS A LOSS OF SOME REVENU

. >> BUT THOSE ARE ALL MEMBERS THE FINANCIAL IMPACT ON THOSE IS GREAT BUT YES, IT IS THEY ARE. BUT ANY YOU CAN'T BLAME ANYONE FOR PLAYING OTHER COURSES. I LIKE PLAYING OTHER COURSES TWO.

THE SECOND GUYS THERE ON MONDA , SO. >> OKAY.

>> I'M ONE OF THEM. I JUST LAY THERE THIS MONDAY BUT JUST BASICALLY FOR A

CHALLENGING ALTERNATIVE. >> I'D LIKE TO GET FEEDBACK ON THEIR PROPERTY VERSUS OURS.

IT'S NICE TO KNOW THAT STUFF. >> AND A LOT OF THOSE, FOR TALKING ABOUT 11:00 O'CLOCK

GROUP, A LOT OF THOSE PEOPLE ARE FULL-TIME MEMBERS. >> DEAR UNLIMITED.

>>. >> (MULTIPLE SPEAKERS). >> OKAY.

>> I HAVE A QUESTION ONLY FINANCIALS. >> YES.

>> STEPHEN, I DON'T KNOW IF WE HAVE DISCUSSED THIS BEFORE BUT IN ANY BUSINESS I WAS EVER INVOLVED IN, MONDAY WEEK -- MONDAY WE WE DO A PROFIT AND LOSS BALANCE SHEET.

I WOULD GO IN AND THEY WOULD SAY GREAT. >> THIS IS NO DIFFERENT.

>> YES, BUT WE DON'T SEE THAT. >> OKAY. WHICH LIKE TO BECAUSE THIS IS A BASIC SYNOPSIS OF IT. I WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO INCLUDE IN THE PACKET BECAUSE THESE -- THE PACKETS HAVE TO BE DONE SEVEN DAYS PRIOR TO THE MEETING AND THAT'S GENERALLY SOMEWHERE THE FOURTH OR SIX OF EACH MUCH -- MONTH AND I DON'T GET MY FINANCIALS BACK BETWEEN THE EIGHTH AND 10TH. WE WOULD ALWAYS BE A MONTH BEHIND.

THAT'S WHY I DO THIS. >> WHICH IS INTERESTING. IT SHOWS WE DO THE HUNDRED 97,000, BUT I DON'T KNOW MUCH IS SPENT. IT DOESN'T MEAN ALL LOT TO ME.

>> I UNDERSTAND. I MEAN, I CAN DO IT BUT LIKE I SAID YOU'RE GOING TO BE A MONTH

BEHIND. >> I THINK IT WOULD BE IMPORTANT BECAUSE THIS

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INFORMATION YOU NEED. THIS DOESN'T REALLY SHOW YOU ANYTHING.

ALL. >> OKAY. >> OKAY.

>> AND EVEN IT WAS A MONTH BEHIND DELAYS YOU COULD SEE WELL WHY DID YOUR EXPENSES GO UP 30,000 WELL TO REMEMBER THE LIGHTNING BOLT THAT CAME IN AND ãTHAT'S WHAT HAPPENED.

>> YES. AND DOES MY GETAWAY WOULD GIVE ME A CLEARER PICTURE.

>> OKAY. >> I WOULD THINK THE COMMISSIONERS, ALSO.

>> THE COMMISSIONERS HAVE ACCESS TO THAT. >> OKAY.

I JUST ALWAYS WONDERED WHY I DIDN'T SEE IT. I THOUGHT THERE MIGHT BE A

CONTRACTUAL REGION. >> THE GOLF COURSE ADVISORY BOARD CAN SEE.

YOU COULD DO A PUBLIC RECORDS REQUEST IF YOU WERE. >> I HAVE TROUBLE ON THE CITY WEBSITE. IT GETS CONVOLUTED ON THAT WEBSITE.

ANYWAY,I WOULD LIKE TO SEE IT. >> OKAY. I'LL START BRINGING THEM.

I'LL START INCLUDING THEM IN THE PACKET. >> THANK YOU.

>> BEFORE WE MOVE ON TO NEW BUSINESS THERE'S ANOTHER PIECE OF BUSINESS BROUGHT TO MY ATTENTION THIS MORNING AND ALL I'M GOING TO SAY ON IS I ENCOURAGE ALL THE BOARD MEMBERS TO GO TO THE CITY'S WEBSITE AND WATCH THE PARKING RACK ADVISORY BOARD.

AND GIVE ME FEEDBACK ON YOUR THOUGHTS ON THAT. >> I WAS CAN BRING THAT UP TO.

>> COURSE WILL BE CALLED THE CITY COMMISSION NEXT TUESDAY. IF YOU FEEL SO JUSTIFIED BY

WATCHING THE MEETING. >> THAT'S ONLY BEING THERE, BUT WE NEED TO HAVE PEOPLE THAT ARE PREPARED TO SPEAK ON BEHALF OF THE GOLF COURSE. SO, MAYBE WE CAN GET A LITTLE BIT OF ENLIGHTENMENT, COMMISSIONER ROSS, WHICH BINDS COMMENTING ON.

>> SHORT. >> THE PARKS AND RECREATION ADVISORY BOARD.

>> LAST NIGHT. >> YES. >> NO MY NAME IS -- I LIVE ON THIRD STREET. LET ME EXPLAIN TO WANT AN ENTERPRISE FUND IS BECAUSE A LOT OF PEOPLE GET CONFUSED. IT HAS SOMETHING TO DO WITH THE.

>> I READ ABOUT IT THAT YOU GUYS HAD A LONG DISCUSSION AFTER THE MEETING.

>> OWN ENTERPRISE FUND IS GENERATED, NOT BY -- IT'S THE ACCOUNTING RULES THAT THE CITY HAS TO FOLLOW. AND THE -- THERE'S NO CHOICE IN THAT.

THAT'S THE LAW WE HAVE CERTAIN COUNTY RULES THAT WE HAVE TO FOLLOW.

ONE OF THOSE ACCOUNTING RULES -- I HAVE FORGOTTEN THE -- I THINK IT'S 37.

-- RULES. STATES THAT IF YOU HAVE PLEDGED THAT -- IN OTHER WORDS, IF AN ENTITY IN THE CITY, ONE OF THE PLEDGES THE REVENUES GENERATED BY THAT FACILITY, THEN THAT HAS TO BECOME AN ENTERPRISE FUND. SO IT'S GOT NOTHING TO DO WITH MANY OTHER THINGS THAT PEOPLE THINK. IT'S GOT TO DO WITH THAT SPECIFIC, THAT YOU HAVE SAID WE ARE GOING TO BORROW X AMOUNT OF DOLLARS AND WE ARE GOING TO USE THE REVENUE GENERATED IN THIS CASE, BY PLAYING GOLF OR IN THE CASE OF THE MARINA, BY RUNNING OUT BOATS OR IN THE CASE OF THE UTILITY FUNDS, BY DOING THAT ARE IN THE CASE OF THE AIRPORT, BY RENTING OUT THE USE -- SO THOSE ARE MY THEY ARE ENTERPRISE FUNDS. AND AN ENTERPRISE FUND ALSO IS SUPPOSED TO GENERATE THE REVENUE FROM FEES AND CHARGES AS OPPOSED TO AD VALOREM TAX.

NOW THE CITY DOES BACKUP THE FULL FAITH AND CREDIT OF THOSE LOANS, BUT THEY ARE SUPPOSED TO PAY FOR IT BY FEES. IN YOUR CASE, GOLF FEES. OKAY.

SO WHY IS THAT IMPORTANT AND WHAT HAS THAT GOT TO DO WITH THE SIMMONS ROAD PARK PROJECT?

>> AT PARK PROJECT IS PROPOSED TO BE ON 6.2 ACRES.

IF YOU GO BACK AND LOOK AT THE DEED YOU FIND THAT THAT PROPERTY WAS PURCHASED IN 19 -- I BELIEVE IT'S 94 -- EITHER 9497 FROM A MRS. LEDERMAN. IT DOESN'T MATTER.

FOR $155,000. AND IT WAS PURCHASED BY THE GOLF COURSE.

AS AN ENTERPRISE FUND. AND THEY BORROWED MONEY TO PAY FOR THAT LAND.

SO, THAT HUNDRED $55,000 THAT PURCHASED THAT WAS BOUGHT BY THE AIRPORT.

>> AIRPORT OR GOLF COURSE. >> GOLF COURSE. EXCUSE ME.

THANK YOU. GOLF COURSE. IN THIS CASE, THE GOLF COURSE.

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AND SO THAT DAD WAS ASSUMED BY THE GOLF COURSE. AND PAID BACK PARTIALLY.

SO THAT IS PART -- YOU -- BEING THE GOLF COURSE, THE ENTERPRISE FUND BOUGHT THAT LAND IS PART OF THE GOLF COURSE. THERE'S BEEN NO DISCUSSION, UNTIL THIS POINT, OF WHETHER THE PARKS, WHICH IS TAKING THIS FOR A PARK SHOULD PAY THE GOLF COURSE THE MONEY THAT'S TRUE FOR THAT LAND. SO THAT'S SOMETHING THAT I THINK SHOULD BE DISCUSSED AND HASN'T BEEN DISCUSSED UP UNTIL THIS POINT. ANY QUESTIONS? WELL, ME JUST MAKE SURE I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, IF -- PARKS AND RACKS TAKES THAT PIECE OF LAND, IT STILL WOULD BE ENTERPRISE FUNDS WILL AND AND HOW COULD THEY USE IT ANY BETTER WITHOUT PAYING IT BACK IN THE CITY -- IN THE GOLF COURSE?

>> WELL YOU PAY FOR THAT LAND. >> OKAY. >> BUT HOW CAN PARKS AND

RECREATION JUST TAKE IT AWAY? WHAT SHOULD HAVE COST THEM. >> EXACTLY.

>> THAT'S MY QUESTION. SO, IS LIKE THIS WHOLE THING WE WENT THROUGH WITH THE AIRPORT WHICH IS WHY KEEP SAYING AIRPORT. WE WENT THROUGH IT WITH THE AIRPORT WHERE THE GOLF COURSE THEY ARE AND HAD TO PAY FAIR MARKET VALUE AND SO ON AND SO FORTH. IT WAS A LITTLE BIT MORE COMPLICATED BUT IS THE SAME PRINCIPLE. WE HAVE AN AIRPORT. AND IS THE SAME PRINCIPLE WITH THE PROPERTY THAT THE MARINA BOUGHT DOWN HERE. I MEAN IF THEY'RE GOING TO PAY THE DEBT THEY SHOULD GET THE REVENUE. IF YOU'RE GOING TO PAY THE TAG ON IT, YOU SHOULD GET SOMETHING FOR IT. THAT'S MY OPINION.

>> WHO DISCOVERED THAT THE GOLF COURSE OWNED THAT LAND. IT IS A REVELATION THAT

HAPPENED IN THE LAST SIX WEEKS? >> I'VE KNOWN ABOUT IT FOR SOME TIME.

>> I, BASICALLY LOOKED AT THE DEEDS. I MEAN I WONDERED HOW THE CITY GOT THAT LAND. AND TO BE HONEST I WAS LOOKING FOR IF SOMEBODY -- WHAT I WAS LOOKING FOR FOR SOMEBODY HAD DONATED FOR CONSERVATION NEEDS. I WONDER -- ARE IN THE DEED WHEN YOU RAN THE DEED IT'S HAD ZERO CONSIDERATION. AND WHEN I SEE ZERO CONSIDERATION, HOW DO WE GET THE SLANTS? IT TURNED OUT IT WASN'T ZERO CONSIDERATION. I WENT BACK AND GOT ALL THE MINUTES FROM THE MEETING SAID

WHAT HAPPENED BACK THEN. >> AND THEY BORROWED -- IT TURNED OUT THAT THE CITY GOLF

COURSE ENTERPRISE FUND BORROWED 155 -- TO PAY FOR THAT. >> I'M NOT SURE WITH THE PROPERTY IS. IS IT ADJACENT TO THE GOLF COURSE.

>> IT'S ALL FIVE WEST. >> THE SECOND THING THAT PEOPLE GET CONCERNED ABOUT IS THAT THAT PROPERTY CAN NEVER BE SOLD BECAUSE IT'S OWNED RECREATIONAL BUT THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP SHOWS IT AS RECREATIONAL. SO UNDER OUR CHARTER -- IT'S IN OUR CITY CHARTER, THE ONLY WAY THAT THAT CAN BE SOLD OFF TO A -- COULD BE SOLD OFFER HOUSING DEVELOPMENT OR SOMETHING ELSE IS THAT IF YOU WENT TO VOTER REFERENDUM. THE CITY COMMISSIONERS HAVE TO AGREE TO THAT AND I WOULD HAVE TO GO TO REFERENDUM. SO THE LIKELIHOOD OF THAT BEING

SOLD FOR DEVELOPMENT IS PRETTY MINUSCULE SO. >> WELL, SOUNDS LIKE THE GOLF

COURSE COULD USE HUNDRED $55,000. >> THAT WAS FAIR MARKET VALUE

AND 94. >> PER VALUE IS A LITTLE BIT HIGHER.

>> A LITTLE BIT MORE ECZEMA ADVOCATING IT ONE WAY OR THE OTHER.

I THINK THAT YOU SHOULD BE AWARE OF THAT. >> THIS IS THAT PART THAT YOU TALKED ABOUT ABOUT A YEAR AND HALF AGO THAT THEY WERE USING CERTAIN IMPACT FEES?

>> I REMEMBER I TALKED ABOUT A. >> WILL YOU SAID THAT THERE'S IMPACT FEES.

>> AN IMPORTANT STUFF THAT WE SHOULD LOOKING BE LOOKING INTO. QUICK SETTLE REMEMBER THE CONVERSATION TO BE HONEST, BUT IMPACT FEES FROM THE PARK AND REC BOARD ARE BEING USED TO FUND THE CONSTRUCTION OF THIS PART, THAT IS CORRECT. QUICK SO AGAIN, I WOULD ENCOURAGE ALL THE BOARD MEMBERS TO GO TO THE CITY'S WEBSITE AND WATCH THAT MEETING FROM LAST

NIGHT. >> AND EMILY WANT TO ENCOURAGE. >> GENTLEMEN.

>> THIS IS WHERE YOU GO ON FB -- FB FL .US. >> FB .

>> FB FL .US AND YOU CAN SEE THE CITY COMMISSION MEETINGS. >> THE US.

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>> WILL ACTUALLY COMMENTS ON CITY COMMISSION. HAVE TO GO TO THE PARK AND REC

BOARD. >> YOU CAN WATCH THIS TO. >> IT'S VERY EXCITING.

>> (LAUGHING). >> AND SO, WANT TO REALLY ENCOURAGE THE GOLFERS.

>> DOES ANYONE ELSE HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? ANYBODY?

>>. >> MY QUESTION IS, YOU HAVE ANY IDEA ANY IDEA WHAT THE

PROPERTY. >> HOW MANY ACRES. >> 6.2.

>> ANY IDEA OF HOW MUCH WE GO FOR. >> NO.

BUT THIS WILL BE AN ISSUE RAISED NEXT TUESDAY AT THE COMMISSION MEETING.

>> WHETHER TO GO FORWARD WITH THIS PARK WERE NOT CORRECT. THAT'S THE BEST MY

UNDERSTANDING. IT'S ON THE AGENDA. >> IT'S -- I THINK THE FIRST ITEM OF BUSINESS. NOT THE FIRST ITEM THAT EARLY ON IN THE MEETING.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >>. >> I WANT TO ENCOURAGE THE

GOLFERS TO SHOW UP. >> NOVEMBER 19. >> NEXT TUESDAY.

>> WHAT'S THE DATE? >> YOU NEED TO HAVE PEOPLE PREPARED TO SPEAK.

ON BEHALF OF THE GOLF COURSE. >> IF YOU WANT TO WRITE SOMETHING I CAN SEND IT OUT TO

THE 94 MEMBERS. >> A SHORT LITTLE IT WOULD PLEASE THE -- WE DID GET A LOT LAST MAY, WAS LAST MAY? WAS IT LAST MAY WE WERE THINKING ABOUT SELLING THE GOLF

COURSE? >> OH, YES. >> AND I WILL SELL THE GOLF COURSE BUT THEY'RE JUST GOING TO TAKE A PORTION. (LAUGHING).

>> OKAY. ANYTHING ELSE? >> THE GOLF ASSOCIATION, JOHN

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-- WILL YOU NOT -- LEE, CAN YOU UPDATE US ON TIME AND SOME OUT OF THE LOOP.

>> YEAH. WE HAD A NICE ONE. AND STEVE, I -- I'M QUESTIONING JUDGMENT WE ARE SUPPOSED TO HAVE A TOURNAMENT THIS SATURDAY, AND I THINK IT'S PROBABLY GOING TO BE 8 TO 10 -- I DON'T KNOW WHAT'S CAN HAPPEN TODAY, BUT I HAVEN'T HEARD A LOT. AND THE WEATHER DOESN'T LOOK GOOD.

SO THERE'S A POSSIBILITY OF MOVING ABOUT. >>>?BECAUSE I DON'T LIKE THE

LOOKS OF THIS WEEKEND? >> THE WEATHER IS GOING TO BE. >> I THINK YOU MIGHT BE ABLE TO

ATTRACT MORE PEOPLE. >> YOU WANT TO PLAY IN A COLD FLURRY?

NO (LAUGHING). >> I THINK THAT'S WHAT I'M GOING TO DO.

I'M GOING TO PULL THE TEAMS THAT SIGNED UP. >> REMIND ME WE LOOK AT THE

SHEET. >> OTHER THAN THAT, AND ONE ISSUE IF YOU GUYS COULD THINK ABOUT THIS, I'M WONDERING IF THERE'S A WAY TO IMPROVE THE SUPER BOWL TOURNAMENT.

I DON'T KNOW WHETHER -- IT'S NOT AN EVENT, I DO NOT KNOW IF THE HUNDRED DOLLARS IS RIGHT P.

IT'S A BROKEN TOURNAMENT. IT'S A GOOD TOURNAMENT, BUT IF YOU GUYS COULD KEEP THINKING

ABOUT THAT, I'M LOOKING FOR INPUT. >> YOU MIGHT WANT TO MENTION.

>> AND THERE IS A CHRISTMAS TOURNAMENT THAT WE DO WITH THE WOMEN.

IT'S ALWAYS VERY SUCCESSFUL. >> DECEMBER 14. SO WE HAVE A LOT OF STUFF GOING ON. PRICES THE NEW PRESIDENT. I DON'T THINK HE IS ENGAGED AS

JOHN BUT EVERYBODY HAS DIFFERENT WAYS OF MANAGING, SO. >> I TALKED TO HIM ABOUT COMING TO THESE MEETINGS AND HE JUST DIDN'T MAKE THIS ONE. I THINK HE'S INTERESTED IN

COMING. >> OKAY. GOOD.

QUICK SURE SUPER BOWL TOURNAMENT IS OPEN TO ANYBODY? >> IT -- OR ANYBODY WITH A

HANDICAP WITH A VERIFIABLE HANDICAP. >> VERIFIABLE HANDICAP.

I WAS GOING TO TALK TO YOU ABOUT YESTERDAY. >> IT'S OPEN TO ANYBODY WITH A VERIFIABLE HANDICAP. WILL THERE BE STROKE ADJUSTMENTS?

>> WE HAVEN'T IN THE PAST. >> THAT HAVE A HARD TIME HELPING YOU PROMOTE IT.

BECAUSE IF YOU ARE TRULY GOING TO DO IT FOR ANYBODY ã MAQUOKETA 10,000 PEOPLE.

>> I KNOW. >> I COULD SEND IT TO, BUT IF YOU'RE DOING STROKE

ADJUSTMENTS, GET PROMOTED THROUGH THAT. >> I CERTAINLY CAN DO STROKE ADJUSTMENTS. THE PROBLEM I WORRY ABOUT IS THAT -- THE PHONE, IT WAS A BIG

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TOURNAMENT, CALCUTTA, BEFORE ME. >> BECAUSE YOU DID STROKE

ADJUSTMENTS. >> OKAY. >> AND THEN I GOT ON AND IT WAS A FUN TOURNAMENT BACK 10 YEARS AGO AND THEN THEY GOT IN A FIGHT.

THERE WERE SOME GUYS WITH THE SCORECARD WENT CRAZY AND ALMOST GOT FISTICUFFS AND I REMEMBER THIS AND THEN HE SAID SCREW IT. AND I JUST SORT OF INHERITED IT AND I'D LIKE TO INVITE -- I JUST DON'T WANT TO GET THIS CUFFED BECAUSE OF SOME SCORECARD THING AND ALL THE SUDDEN ON THE BACK NINE I CAN MAKE SOME RULING ãTHAT WORRIES ME.

>> OKAY. GET A BOUNCER. >> YOU NEED A BOUNCER.

>> IT WAS BAD. I REMEMBER. >> IF YOU'RE GOING TO RUN IT LIKE A REAL GOLF TOURNAMENT, WHAT YOU'RE TALKING LLAMA. YOU'RE TALKING HUNDRED DOLLAR

ENTRY FEE. >> EXACTLY. >> BUT WE CAN ATTRACT MORE PEOPLE AND MIKE AND I CAN TAKE CARE OF THE SCORING ISSUES AND THE ROLE SOCIAL.

>> I WOULD LOVE THAT. >> BUT, >> ALDO ADJUSTMENTS.

I COULDN'T CARE LESS. I MEAN THE WHITE GUYS PLAY WITH HER HANDICAP SCHOOLS AND ON THE

COMPUTER. >> OR YOU JUST MIGHT GO -- BECAUSE ONLY WHITE TEAM PLAYERS PLAY CAN SEE WHITE TEAM. RED TEAM WILL PLAY CAN SEE RED TEAM.

THEN THERE IS NO STROKE ADJUSTMENT. >> OH, WELL WE DON'T -- WE

DIDN'T HAVE ANY WHITE TEAM PLAYERS. >> I DIDN'T THINK THAT.

>> WE HAVE A FEW. >> IN A FEW -- AND IF YOU DID THAT.

>> I'LL DO STROKE ADJUSTMENTS. I LOVE FOR YOU AND MIKE TELL ME WITH THAT TERMITE BECAUSE ALAN SCARES ME A LITTLE BIT ON LETTING PEOPLE THAT ARE MEMBERS OF THE ASSOCIATION AND.

>> AND WE CAN BLASTED OUT OUR PEOPLE. >> I'VE GOT A COUPLE HUNDRED LESS FROM THE INTERCLUB AND MIKE A BUDDY BOY. YOU MIGHT GET A COUPLE.

WE HAVE THE BEST. I WORK WITH YOU ON. >> OKAY.

>> THANK YOU. ACCENTS ALTHOUGH I HAVE. >> OKAY.

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>> JUST AGAIN, REMINDING ABOUT DECEMBER 14 TOURNAMENT WITH THE ENDS ORGANIZATION.

AND THAT'S ABOUT ALL I HAVE. >> OKAY. LET'S LOOK AT THE MARKETING

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UPDATE. >> THE FIRST IS WE CAN PRICING. WE WILL CONTINUE THIS UNTIL SNOWBIRDS ARRIVE UNTIL SOMETIME AFTER CHRISTMAS. FOR THREE AND HALF MONTHS.

YOU CAN GET WHAT YOU DESERVE AT THE GOLF COURSE. THE SECOND ONE IS JUST BASICALLY -- THIS HAS BEEN THE MOST POPULAR WE RECEIVED. WE'VE HAD MORE CLICK THROUGH'S AND ANY OTHER EMAIL THAT WE'VE SENT OUT IN THE PAST SIX MONTHS.

IN THE LAST ONE I WANT YOUR INPUT ON. SINCE IT'S ALL ABOUT THE DOLLAR. I WOULD KIND OF LIKE TO KNOW THE BOARD'S OPINION ON THE BLACK FRIDAY SALE. I'VE GOT TO SEND THAT OUT NEXT WEEK.

>> 25 PERCENT OFF. THEN HUNDRED. >> WILL EVERYBODY ELSE IS DOING

A BLACK FRIDAY EVENT (LAUGHING . >> IF I CAN GET A FREE WEEKEND

WHEN IT'S SLOW IT WILL BRING MORE PEOPLE INTO THE PROPERTY. >> ARE TALKING ABOUT AN

INDIVIDUAL SPENDING 100. >> YES. >> AND HOW WOULD I DO THAT?

WOULD I BUY SHIRTS WERE. >> IT'S GOING TO BE TOUGH FOR YOU BECAUSE YOU GET AN EMPLOYEE

DISCOUNT. >> (LAUGHING). >> YOU HAVE TO BUY A LOT OF

STUFF. >> SAYRE MR. PUBLIC. IN PLAYING AND I PAY 50 BUCKS FOR ROUND OF GOLF OR WHATEVER IT IS. SO HAVE TO BUY SHIRTS.

>> $100 WITH THE MERCHANDISE PRETAX. >> OKAY.

>> I'M JUST CURIOUS. THAT JUST SOUNDS LIKE. >> AT 25 PERCENT OFF (LAUGHING) THE OTHER MEMBERS HAVE TO SPEND MORE, TOO. QUICKSAND SEE HOW IT HURTS TO TRY IT. ANY MONEY YOU GET IS THE WOULD KNOW GOD.

>> EXACTLY. IT HELPS US MOVE THE INVENTORY AND IT'S ONLY FOR FIVE DAYS.

WHAT SOME FOR. >> YOU ARE ALL OKAY WITH THE QUICK SALES.

>> AND WE WILL RUN WITH IT. >> AND THEN THERE'S ANOTHER EMAIL INCLUDED IN THIS ABOUT THE TWILIGHT SPECIALS THAT ARE SPECIAL, WE'VE ACTUALLY BEEN ABLE TO INCREASE THOSE FROM $20 AT 1:00 O'CLOCK BACKUP TWITTER SUPPOSED TO BE AT $29. IT SOUNDS LIKE A SPECIAL, THANK

YOU VERY MUCH. >> AT SCHOOL. >> OKAY.

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MR. YOUNGER? >> SINCE THE LAST TIME WE WERE HERE, WE WERE PLAYING AT THE GOLF COURSE AFTER THE HURRICANE AND I THINK EVERYBODY THAT HELPED OUT.

IT WAS A LOT -- WE WERE EXPECTING IT TO BE WORSE SO WE WERE BETTER OFF.

THIS WEEK WE ACTUALLY STARTED OVERSEEING THE NORTH FAIRWAYS AND THEN, WHEN IT OPENS BACKUP ON MONDAY WE WILL CLOSE THE SALES COURSE DOWN AND OVERSEE THE SEASON FAIRWAYS.

SO THREE CONSECUTIVE WEEKS. >> RIGHT. SO PLAN.

>> IT'S A BLEND? >> YES. IS A THREE SEAT BLEND SO TAKE ANYWHERE FROM 10 TO 14 DAYS BEFORE WE ARE ABLE TO DO OUR FIRST CUT ON THE NORTH COURSE.

>> SO WHEN WE GOING TO DO THE NORTH. >> NORTHWEST ON TUESDAY.

>> ON TUESDAY. SO YOU WILL SEE WATER RUNNING ON JUST THAT NINE THROUGHOUT THE DAY. WE WILL MODERATE FOUR TIMES A DAY AND AGAIN AT NIGHTTIME.

>> AND WHEN WILL WE START PLAYING THE NORTH AGAIN? >> NEXT MONDAY.

>> OKAY. AND THE CELLS WILL BE CLOSED. >> OKAY.

SO THAT WATERING YOU HAVE TO DO FOR THE FIRST TWO WEEKS WERE SET --

>> IT WILL BE FOR THE FIRST WEEK. BUT JUST THE.

>> AND WARMER WEATHER WOULD BE BETTER THAN. >> IDEALLY, YES.

HE DID A PREPLANNED PRIOR TO THE SEATING AND SO THAT WILL HELP.

THAT'LL MAKE SEED ESTABLISH QUICK. BUT THE ADDITIONAL WATER WE ARE PUTTING OUT, IT WELL. WE SHOULD SEE SOME SEEDS POPPING OUT TUESDAY OR

WEDNESDAY OF NEXT WEEK. >> UH-UH (AFFIRMATIVE). >> ON THE TEES AND FAIRWAYS.

>> YOU STILL HAVE SOME TREE REMOVAL TO DO, TOO, DAVID? >> THERE ARE A FEW MORE WE NEED TO TAKE OUT, THE ONES THAT FELL DOWN DURING THE HURRICANE. WE HAVE TO REMOVE THE STUMPS AND AS THE SEED BEGINS TO GET ESTABLISHED AND WE ARE NOT GOING AS MUCH, THEN WE WILL TAKE OUT SOME OF THE DEAD TREES THAT WE ARE NOT ABLE TO GET LAST YEAR.

>> OKAY. ANY OTHER COMMENTS? >> ANY PUBLIC COMMENTS.

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>> I DO. MY WIFE AND I, QUITE OFTEN GO TO THE GOLF COURSE FOR BREAKFAST. I ALWAYS HAVE MY EGGS OVER EASY AND THEY ALWAYS COME OUT WILL PERFECT. WELL, WE WENT TO THE WESTIN HOTEL IN JEKYLL ISLAND, WE WENT TO THE $25 PERSON BREAKFAST BUFFET. I ORDERED EGGS OVER EASY.

WHEN YOU FRIDAY HOW IT GETS CRUSTY, WHILE MY $25 PERSON BREAKFAST CAME OUT WITH CRUSTY OVER EASY EGGS AND THAT HAS NEVER HAPPENED AT THE GOLF COURSE (LAUGHING) SO, THE PERSONAL COACH OR EXIT THE GOLF COURSE IS BETTER THAN AN EXPENSIVE CHEF AT THE WESTIN ON

JEKYLL ISLAND. >> YOU DON'T TELL THEM YOU WANT TO RAISE.

>> I TOLD HIM ALREADY. TOO BAD (LAUGHING). >> MIKE MEADOWS, 26 >> MIKE MEADOWS, 2601. -- I ASKED STEVE ABOUT THIS BEFORE AND I WAS GOING TO ASK YOU -- I DIDN'T QUITE UNDERSTAND IT ABOUT THE MOWING ON PARKDALE TRAIL, THAT BIG LOT THAT WAS MOWED OUT. IN THE BIG PIPE PUT IN. CAN YOU TELL US WHAT THAT'S

ABOUT. >> THAT'S A STORMWATER PROJECT. THEY'RE DIGGING A NEW RETENTION

POND ON THE NORTH AND. >> ARE GOING TO PUT THAT PROJECT IN THAT PIECE OF

PROPERTY. >> YES. >> THEY'RE GOING TO TAKE THAT OUT? DEPARTING THE DIRT IN THE RETENTION POND THAT THERE TO.

>> WHERE IS THE RETENTION POND. >> I HAVE NO IDEA. >> OKAY.

>> ALL I KNOW IS I WAS CONTACTED BY STORMWATER. I COULD GIVE THE OKAY BECAUSE

THAT'S AIRPORT CONTROL PROPERTY. >> IT IS?

>> IT'S GOLF COURSE PROPERTY BUT IT'S CONTROLLED BY THE AIRPORT.

RBC, SORRY. IT'S EITHER RUNWAY PROTECTION THEY CONTROL THE PROPERTY.

>> OKAY. I THINK YOU SAID IT'S GOING TO BE SMOOTHED OUT.

>> THAT'S WHAT I WAS TOLD. >> WHEN YOU HAVE A STORM, NOT TALKING ABOUT HURRICANE WITH

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BIG HUGE TREES AND THINGS ONE OF THESE STORMS THAT COME THROUGH, TO USE VOLUNTEERS TO ALLOW VOLUNTEERS TO COME OUT AND HELP CLEAN UP THE GOLF COURSE?

>> WITH THE RECORD THEY DO NOT ALLOW VOLUNTEERS ON THE PROPERTY.

>> OKAY. I THINK IT WOULD BE A GOOD IDEA IF YOU ATTAINED A NUMBER OF

PEOPLE THAT WOULD HELP CLEAN U . >> I AGREE.

>> IF THAT WAS ALLOWED AND MAYBE A LIST TO ALLOW PEOPLE TO DO THAT.

>> YES, SIR. IF YOU WOULD FOR THE RECORD BILLY CASTRO WILL NOT ALLOW IT.

>> AND THE THIRD THING IS I THINK THAT THE CAFETERIA THERE DOES HAVE THE BEST BREAKFAST ON

THE ISLAND. I REALLY DO LIVE. >> MY WIFE DOES TOO.

>> THANK YOU. >> SAID, WOULD YOU LIKE TO COMMENT ON YOUR LETTER?

>> MY NAME IS ED BORKOWSKI. I LIVE AT FIRST AVENUE FERNANDINA BEACH.

I PREVIOUSLY SUBMITTED A LETTER TO THIS BOARD AND TO THE COMMISSIONERS AND THE CITY MANAGER DATED OCTOBER 7. AND I'VE RECEIVED SOME FEEDBACK AND COMMENTS, WHICH I APPRECIATE.

ALL HAVING TO DO WITH THE MAINTENANCE AND SUPPORT OF THE GOLF COURSE.

BUT ESPECIALLY POINTING OUT THE PRIDE THAT WE SHOULD BE TAKING IN OUR GOLF COURSE.

WE HAVE A JEWEL IN FERNANDINA BEACH CITY GOLF COURSE. MY WIFE AND I HAVE BEEN BLESSED TO TRAVEL AROUND THE COUNTRY AND TO PLAY A LOT OF GOLF ON CITY GOLF COURSES.

AND HOURS COMPARES VERY WELL. 27 HOLES IS A CHALLENGE FOR US TO MAINTAIN FOR STEPHEN DAVID TO MAINTAIN, ESPECIALLY WITH THE LIMITED STAFF THAT THEY HAVE.

MY HAT IS OFF TO STEPHEN DAVID, TWO INDIAN OTHERS HAVE WORKED OUT THAT WORK HARD.

I DID A FOLLOW-UP LETTER THIS MORNING THAT I SHARED THE COMMISSIONERS AND THE CITY MANAGER AND WITH YOURSELVES AND I WANT TO POINT OUT THAT MUCH PROGRESS HAS BEEN MADE WITH RESPECT TO WHAT I STATED EARLIER IN MY OCTOBER 7 LETTER. I CONTINUE TO BE HELPFUL THAT RESOURCES WILL BE MADE AVAILABLE TO FURTHER IMPROVE THE VALUE AND THE BENEFITS THAT THAT GOLF COURSE PROVIDES. IT IS A LAND PRESERVATION PERSONIFIED.

AND THAT'S AN IMPORTANT COMPONENT. IT HAS TREES.

IT HAS WILDLIFE. IT HAS PONDS. IT HAS PEOPLE THAT DEEPLY CARE ABOUT IT. MY WIFE PLAYS GOLF THERE. SHE'S MADE LOTS OF FRIENDS AND PEOPLE TALK. AND A LOT OF NEW PLAYERS COME OUT THERE AND OUR GROUPS ALREADY SEEING THE SNOWBIRDS COME FROM THE U.S. AND FROM OUT OF THIS COUNTRY.

OUR GROUPS GROW IN THE WINTERTIME AND IT'S -- IT ADDS VALUE TO THE COURSE.

IT ADDS REVENUE. I JUST WANT TO SAY THAT I'M PASSIONATE ABOUT THE GOLF COURSE. I'VE MADE MYSELF AVAILABLE AT DIFFERENT TIMES TO WORK ON THE GOLF COURSE, TO VOLUNTEER AFTER STORMS AND SUCH AND I JUST WANT TO THANK THE STAFF FOR THE WORK THAT THEY DO. I KNOW THAT THEY PUT THEIR HEART AND SOUL INTO IT.

6:00 O'CLOCK IN THE MORNING THEY ARE THERE AND EAGER TO GET TO WITH THE END THEY WORK HARD.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >> THANK YOU. >> ANYTHING ELSE?

>> JUST TO FOLLOW UP ON IT. >> I THINK PART OF WHAT HE WAS -- HE DOESN'T UNDERSTAND IS WHY

THE CITY DOESN'T DO MORE FOR THE GOLF COURSE? >> WELL AS A.

>> WHILE I TAKE ISSUE BECAUSE SOMETIMES I READ IN THE PRESS THAT WE ARE DOING THINGS AT THE AIRPORT AND WE -- ON AN ANNUAL BASIS WE DO THINGS AT THE HARBOR.

AND IT DOESN'T SEEM LIKE THERE'S ENOUGH PRIDE AMONGST THE COMMISSIONERS -- APOLOGIZE IF I STEP ON ANYONE'S TOES. IN AMONGST THE DEPARTMENTS WITHIN THE CITY.

AND -- I JUST FEEL LIKE THE ROAD TO BE MORE COOPERATION BETWEEN PARKS AND RECREATION, BETWEEN MAINTENANCE, THERE'S EQUIPMENT IN THE CITY THAT COULD GOING BETWEEN THOSE PONDS AND LEVEL THEM -- I MEAN JUST TAKE SOME OF THE BUSH AND THE STUFF OUT, IMPROVE THE SIDELINES, IMPROVE THE VALUE AND ABUSE ACROSS THE GOLF COURSE AS IT RELATES TO THE TREES THINGS THAT PEOPLE IN THIS COMMUNITY TALK ABOUT. WE ARE LOSING A LOT OF TREES,

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NOT ONLY TO DEVELOPMENT, BUT BONDS AND STEVE TOLD ME YESTERDAY THAT THEY'RE WORKING ON THE VINES. BUT THOSE TREES ARE BEING COVERED.

THERE WILL BE LITTLE TO NO BUFFER BETWEEN AMELIA ISLAND PARKWAY AND THE GOLF COURSE AND TWO HUGE SECTIONS IN THE NOT-TOO-DISTANT FUTURE IF WE DON'T TACKLE SOME OF THIS.

NOT REQUIRES BODIES AND IT REQUIRES SOME DEGREE OF EQUIPMENT.

I KNOW THAT THERE ARE OFFERS A -- FELLOW GOLFERS CUTTING SECTIONS AND WE DO IT WHILE WE PLAY BECAUSE WE CARE ABOUT THE GOLF COURSE. QUICK STEVE, IT PUTS YOU IN THE MIDDLE. DO YOU FEEL YOU GET ALL THE SUPPORT.

>> NO. >> STATUETTES WERE FROM THE CITY?

>> CANNOT PLEAD THE FIFTH (LAUGHING). >> SURE.

>> AND I WILL PLEAD THE FIFTH. >> I HEAR WHAT YOU'RE SAYING. BUT PART OF WHAT I HAVE -- AND ALL YOU ALL KNOW I'M CITY COMMISSIONER. AND I'VE BEEN DOING THIS FOR ALMOST TWO YEARS NOW. WHAT I HAVE COME TO LEARN IS THAT YOU HAVE YOUR PASSION, THE MARINE AS THEIR PASSION, THE AIRPORT AS THEIR PASSION, YOU HAVE YOUR PASSION WITH YOUR -- WITH YOUR STREET THERE MY NEIGHBORHOOD HAS THEIR PASSION WITH WHATEVER.

AND THERE'S ONLY SO MANY DOLLARS. AND THEY CAN ONLY GO SO FAR.

AND IT'S NOT BALANCING ACT OF HOW TO KEEP THE STREETS CLEAN? HOW DO YOU DO THIS? AND I THINK THE CITY DOES A PRETTY DAMN GOOD JOB OF RUNNING THE CITY.

IT'S A SAFE PLACE TO LIVE. HALF OF OUR TAX GOES TO FIRE AND RESCUE AND AS I SAID, MY CITY TAX LAST YEAR WAS ABOUT 1900 BUCKS IN MY COUNTY TAX WAS $2000.

FOR FIVE DOLLARS I THINK IT COMES TO $0.85 A DAY. HALF OF THAT GOING TO FIRE AND RESCUE. I THINK WE HAVE A GREAT DEAL. AND PART OF IT IS THERE'S ONLY SO MUCH MONEY. I HEAR WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, BUT THE ROAD CREW WILL TELL YOU I'M PUTTING MY STUFF THERE I NEED TO BE DOING THAT. WE HAVE A WHOLE BUNCH OF PARKS.

I DID A TOUR LAST WEEK WENT ALL THE PLAYGROUNDS IN THE CITY. IN THE PARKS, THEY NEED HELP, TOO. SO PART OF -- POGO SAID WE MET THE ENEMY AND THEY ARE US.

>> WE CREATE ALL THESE THINGS. WE HAVE THE MARINA, WE HAVE THE GOLF COURSE WE HAVE AN AIRPORT, WE HAVE A CEMETERY, WE HAVE ALL THESE THINGS AND THEIR GREAT THINGS BUT WHAT WE HAVEN'T DONE AND WHAT I THINK WE NEED TO LOOK AT VERY CAREFULLY AS WE HAVE NOT BAKED INTO THAT OUR GOING TO TAKE CARE OF THIS. WE KEEP ADDING MORE AND MORE AND WITHOUT -- I THINK THE CHALLENGE THAT WE HAVE AS A COMMUNITY IS HOW WE TAKE CARE OF ALL THIS.

BECAUSE WE DON'T MAKE IT TO -- IF YOU LOOK AT THE BUDGET, ALL THESE THINGS OF DEPRECIATION LIFE. THE BEACH WALKOVER IS A GREAT EXAMPLE.

THEY BUILT ALL THESE. THEY HAVE NO PLAN AND HOW TO REPLACE IT WHEN IT COMES TO ITS END OF ITS USEFUL LIFE. BUT IT WAS NEVER BAKED IN EVERY YEAR, WAS NEVER PUT IN THE BUDGET EVERY YEAR X AMOUNT OF DOLLARS TO REPLACE THIS WHEN IT BECOMES THE END OF HIS LIFE.

IT'S A BIG CHALLENGE. WE HAVE A WONDERFUL COMMUNITY. >> I AWARE THAT THIS GOLF

COURSE MADE MONEY FOR MANY YEARS. >> I DON'T KNOW THE ANSWER TO

THIS. >> AND THE PROFIT THAT THEY MADE WENT TO THE CITY.

IT WAS NOT TO THE GOLF COURSE. IS THAT YOUR UNDERSTANDING I GUESS THIS WAS UP TO ABOUT 2005

MAYBE. >> 2007. >> IT DIDN'T HAPPEN IN 2007.

>> THE ECONOMY CRASHED. >> YES. SO WHY DID THEY MAKE -- I GUESS THE QUESTION I WOULD ASK IS WHY DID THEY MAKE MONEY DONE AND WHY ARE THEY MAKING MONEY NOW?

>> THE BIGGEST REASON FOR THAT, PRIOR TO 1999 WAS -- IT WAS PRETTY EASY TO MAKE MONEY --

>> THEY HAD A MONOPOLY. >>. FOR POPULATION OF THIS ISLAND WHICH IS 12,000 PEOPLE COUNTY IS ANOTHER 10 LIVING IN IT, THEY HAVE THE AMOUNT OF GOLF

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COURSES ON THE ISLAND FOR THAT SMALL AMOUNT OF PEOPLE. >> SO THERE'S THE ANSWER TO

THAT. >> NO. >> I AGREE WITH EVERYTHING YOU

SAID. >> AS YOU KNOW, I HAVE SUPPORTED THIS GOLF COURSE.

I THINK IT'S A GREAT COMMUNITY ASSET. I BELIEVE IN IT.

WE NEED TO REALIZE IT'S NOT EVERYBODY'S PASSION. >> I APPRECIATE WHAT YOU'RE SAYING AND I DO UNDERSTAND THE ECONOMICS AND CHALLENGES, BUT WHAT I'M SUGGESTING IS THAT THERE CAN BE OPEN DIALOGUE AMONGST THE VARIOUS DEPARTMENTS AND SHARING OF RESOURCES BECAUSE SHE WOLCOTT LITTLE THINGS THAT WE CAN DO TO IMPROVE THE OVERALL ASPECT OF THE GOLF COURSE, THE CITY STREETS AND OTHER THINGS. AND A LOT OF US JUMP IN AND IN

THE MIDDLE OF THAT TO HELP WHEN THEY NEED US THEY ARE. >> AND WE APPRECIATE THAT.

>> AND I THINK THAT IF WE TOOK AN EXTRA STEP, TO LISTEN AND LEARN AND SHARE, I THINK WE CAN DO SOME OF THESE THINGS. BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT ALL ONGOING THINGS.

THERE ARE THINGS THAT YOU CAN FIX HERE AND MAYBE COME BACK HERE LATER INTO IT A YEAR LATER. I'M NOT SAYING LET'S SPEND HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS IN

CRASH COURSE WHATEVER. I'D LIKE TO WORK THE EDGES. >> AS A CITY COMMISSIONER I DO NOT RUN THE NUTS AND BOLTS OF A LIST OR SHOULD I. I LEAVE THAT UP TO THE PEOPLE THAT ARE GOOD AT DOING THAT. I THINK THAT'S A VALID THING THAT I PASS ON TO THE CITY

MANAGER. >> A LOT OF THESE ISSUES AND I HEAR THE FRUSTRATION AND HEAR THE OTHER COMMISSIONERS, A LOT OF THESE ISSUES ARE LITTLE THINGS.

THESE ARE LITTLE THINGS, BUT WHAT WERE DOING IS GOING ALONG THE SCHMIDT WITH 30 YEARS AND I HEAR IT IN YOUR FRUSTRATION. WHEN I TALKED TO I HEAR YOU AT CITY COMMISSION MEETINGS.

BUT WE CAN CONTINUE DOING -- IT SOUNDS LIKE I'M TELLING YOU SOMETHING YOU ALREADY KNOW.

BUT THERE'S A -- THERE'S A LOT OF LITTLE THINGS THAT WE COULD BE DOING THAT IS JUST RESISTING

ANY. >> ONE YOU FIND THOSE LITTLE THINGS SEND ME AN EMAIL NO SEE IF WE CAN NOW GET RID OF THE RESISTANCE. (APPLAUSE).

>> AND JUST FOR THE RECORD, I FEEL THAT EVERY COMMISSION COMMISSIONER SUPPORT THE PROPERTY BUT AS AN ENTERPRISE FUND MY JOB IS TO GO AT IT AS EFFECTIVELY AS POSSIBLE SO I DON'T HAVE TO STAND IN FRONT THE COMMISSION ASK FOR MORE MONEY.

QUITE FRANKLY I'M SUPPOSED TO BE SELF-SUFFICIENT. NOW GRANTED THE SYSTEM IS IN

THE AREA, BUT I'M DOING EVERYTHING I KNOW POSSIBLE. >> I ALSO THINK THAT WE HAVE HAD MORE ATTENTION GIVEN BY THE CITY COMMISSIONERS TO THIS GOLF COURSE ADVISORY BOARD THAT HAD EVER BEEN SEEN BEFORE. AND SO, APPRECIATE THAT. AND YES, WILL HAVE ISSUES AS WE

GO ALONG AND TRY TO TACKLE THEM ONE AT A TIME. >> I THINK -- ONE OF THE ISSUES IS THAT DURING TOUGH ECONOMIC TIMES, LIKE SO MANY THINGS IN THE CITY, MAINTENANCE FELL BEHIND, FELL BEHIND. THE GOLF COURSE WAS ONE OF THOSE PLACES THEY WERE SO FAR BEHIND THEY THOUGHT THEY WERE IN FIRST PLACE. AND THAT WILL EXCLUDE ANALOGY.

>> AND SO, I THINK WHEN YOU LOOK AT -- PER MY UNDERSTANDING AND YOU WILL KNOW I GET DAILY UPDATES FROM AUNTIE AT THE HARDWARE STORE WHEN I WAS THERE.

WHERE IT WAS AND WHERE IT IS, IT'S ALMOST LIKE -- I'LL USE THE ANALOGY OR 40 POINTS BEHIND IN A FOOTBALL GAME WITH TWO MINUTES LEFT AND THESE GUYS HAVE 39 POINTS ON THE BOARD ALREADY. SO, I THINK THAT WHILE WE ALL WANT MORE, WE'VE COME A LONG WAY, BABY AND I THINK THAT IN TIME, WITH -- I THINK HE'S DOING A TREMENDOUSLY GREAT JOB

AT MARKETING THE GOLF COURSE. >> YES, BUT AGAIN, WHEN YOU LOOK AT ALL THE DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS -- AND I THINK COMMISSIONER ROSS IS SET THIS, EVERYBODY WANTS THEIR ISSUE DONE YESTERDAY. AND FROM MY PERSPECTIVE, WE HAVE BECOME A CITY THAT -- I

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GUESS THE BEST WAY I CAN PUT IS WE NEED DEPUTY 40 IN OUR GOVERNMENT.

BECAUSE THE SQUEAK GETS TO WORK. AND IT'S TIME TO REALLY -- AS A CITY, STEP BACK AND SAY WHAT'S IN THE BEST INTEREST OF THE CITY? AND I DON'T THINK THAT -- I DON'T KNOW IF THAT CAN HAPPEN BECAUSE THE CITY IS RUN BY HIM

IN SPIRIT. >> BUT WE HAVE TO KEEP TRYING. >> YES.

I ABSOLUTELY AGREE WITH THAT. AND I THINK THAT -- I MEAN I DO EVERYTHING I CAN TO PROMOTE THE BREAKFAST AT THE GOLF COURSE BECAUSE YOU DON'T WANT BE ON THE GREENS WITH THE CLUB IN MY HAND. THE MAINTENANCE MAN WILL BE LIKE OH MY GOD.

>> SO, I SHARE THE FRUSTRATION. I THINK IT'S COME A LONG WAY AND ROME WASN'T BUILT IN A TOUGH GOLF COURSE WILL BE BUILT IN A DAY, BUT WERE GETTING CLOSE.

>> THANK YOU. >> WILL MAKE A MOTION TO ADJOURN.

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.