[1. CALL TO ORDER] [00:00:16] >> CITY COMMUTING WELCOME FEBRUARY 3 REGULARLY WELCOME TO THE REGULARLY SCHEDULED FEBRUARY 3 SCHEDULED MEETING. >> PLEASE STAND FOR THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE. >> I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. >> MAYOR ANTUM: PLEASE REMAIN STANDING FOR THE IMPLICATION SP LEDSTANLEY 3PALMER, O'NEAL MEMORIAL BAPTIST CHURCH. >> RE PLEASE BOW YOUR HEA HEAD . PLEASE BOW YOUR HEADS HEAVENLY FATHER WE LOVE YOU AND ASK YOU TO GUIDE US TO OUR CITY AND HELP US MAKING THIS. CONTINUING BEAUTIFUL PLACE TO LIVE WE ASK YOU TO HELP US GUIDE US WITH VISION AND STRENGTH IN JESUS NAME WE PRAY. >> MAYOR ANTUM: OF THE AUDIENCE ALSO DEVICES SHOULD BE SOMETHING THIS TIME. THE [4.1 NASSAU HUMANE SOCIETY - Nassau Humane Society Executive Director Chantel Scherer will present the "City Commission Dog of the Month."] DOCUMENTS SHOULD BE SUBMITTED TO THE CLERK. YOU'RE GOING TO TAKE A PHOTOGRAPH PLEASE AVOID CROSSING THE DIAS, AND WE WILL ADDRESS OUR DOG OF THE MONTH. >> I HAVE MANY HERE, SPECIAL ADDRESS TO BE SOMEONE'S VALENTINE. SHE A YEAR OLD AND WE HAVE HAD HER SINCE 26 JANUARY. WE RESCUED HER FROM A KILL SHELTER. HER TIME WAS UP THEY RAN OUT OF SPACE SO WE WENT AND GOT HER WE ARE HOPING TO FIND HER A LOVELY HOME. SHE IS READY TO GO SHE IS SPAYED AND ALL UP-TO-DATE ON HER VACCINES. >> MAYOR ANTUM: IF SOMEONE WANTS TO ADOPT MIMI. [5. PUBLIC COMMENT REGARDING ITEMS NOT ON THE AGENDA OR THE CONSENT AGENDA] >> YOU CAN STOP BY THE SHELTER OR YOU CAN STOP ME. BEFORE I LEAVE >> MAYOR ANTUM: THAT IS ALL THE PRESENTATIONS WE HAVE 5 ITEM. PUBLIC COMMENTS NOT ON THE AGENDA. >> STARTING OFF MR. RICHARD --. >> GOOD EVENING RICHARD DEAN, 4114, NATIVE PLACE. HERE TO TALK ABOUT THE RECALL, THE EFFORT TO RECALL CITY COMMISSIONERS. OUR COMMUNITY VERY STABLE AND EFFECTIVE LOCAL GOVERNMENT. FOR REASONS PEOPLE CAN DISAGREE ON THE PAID PARKING ISSUE TO CALL PROCESS IS A TOXIC PATH. IT SHOULD BE REJECTED BECAUSE IT SETS A DANGEROUS PRECEDENT FOR OUR CITY. OUR CITY COMMISSIONS ARE ELECTED TO STUDY COMPLEX WEIGH COMPETING INTERESTS AND MAKE DECISIONS IN BEST INTEREST LONG-TERM IN THE COMMUNITY PAY PARKING WHETHER IS A POLITICIAN NOT MISCONDUCT OR NEGLECT OF DUTY THOSE ARE THE STANDARDS OF RECALL INTENDED TO ADDRESS. PAID PARKING IS AN EFFORT TO REQUIRE NON-CITY RESIDENTS TO CONTINUE TO MAINTAIN CITY AMENITIES THEY ENJOY THE EFFORT TO EASE FINANCIAL ON TAXPAYERS IS NOT MISCONDUCT. THIS RECALL IS PARALYZING THE LOCAL GOVERNMENT AND DISCOURAGING THOUGHTFUL LEADERSHIP. IT RECALLS BECOME A ROUTINE RESPONSE TO POPULAR DECISIONS COMMISSIONS ARE GOING TO GOVERN OUT OF FEAR THEY ARE GOING TO AVOID THE TOUGH ISSUES WE ARE GOING TO HAVE PARALYSIS. THIS UNDERMINES REPRESENTATIVE DEMOCRACY REPLACES IT WITH CONSTANT POLITICAL TURMOIL WE HAVE A LOT OF THAT IN THIS COUNTRY WE DO NOT NEED TO ADD TO IT IN OUR CITY IT SENDS A TROUBLING MESSAGE TO THE PEOPLE WHO WANT TO RUN FOR OFFICE. WHO IS GOING TO RUN FOR OFFICE? YOU STEP OUT OF LINE AND YOU MAKE A TOUGH DECISION, AND YOU WILL BE THREATENED WITH THE RECALL. WE HAVE A REMEDY TO DEAL WITH POLICY DISAGREEMENTS THE REGULAR ELECTIONS WHERE PEOPLE CAN BE VOTED OUT AT THE BALLOT BOX IF VOTERS BELIEVE THEY MADE WRONG DECISIONS. THAT REGULAR [00:05:08] ELECTION PROCESS ALLOWS FOR DEBATE, REFLECTION, ACCOUNT ABILITY WITHOUT DESTABILIZING THE CITY IS ALSO A PROCESS OF RECOVERY CAN BE MANIPULATED BY OTHER INTERESTS BECAUSE IT IS A SMALL TURNOUT EVENT. IT COULD BE AN OPPORTUNITY TO REVERSE COURSE, AND WHAT THE CURRENT POSITION OF THIS POSITION IS BEEN ON THE ETHANOL PLANT AND OTHER ISSUES. WE SHOULD RESERVE RECALL OR TO BREACHES OF PUBLIC TRUST NOT ABUSE. AND ALLOW THEM TO DO THE WORK WE ELECTED THEM TO DO. >> MAYOR ANTUM: THANK YOU WE HAVE MS. HERRERA. (PHONETIC). >> JULIE-- 501 DATE ST. AS I PREPARE HERE I GET ANGER AND ANGRIER, PEOPLE IN LAST THURSDAY'S ZOOM MEETING ABOUT THE RIGHT ISSUE THE CITY I'M GOING TO USE WERE NOT THE ONE I WANT TO USE, THE CITY BE A POO POO JOB. THERE WERE PEOPLE WAITING ON ZOOM TO GET ONLINE. CAROLYN WAS GREAT. CAROLYN PASSED OUT THAT NUMBER FOR PEOPLE TO CALL IN THE COUNTY IN CASE THERE WAS A PASSWORD YOU NEEDED TO GET ON THE ZOOM. OKAY DID THAT COUNTY DID NOT KNOW ANYTHING. I CALLED THE CITY AND NOBODY KNEW ANYTHING. CALLED VICE- -- AND THEY HUNG UP ON ME. I AM NOT CALLING TO DISCUSS -- I DO CARE THE CITY MANAGER WAS NOT DIRECTED TO PUT A POST. I WENT TO THE CITY WEBSITE AND EVER SINCE THAT POINT I HAVE BEEN BEEN ASKING MYSELF WHAT IS THE CITY AGREED TO IN THE ABATEMENT? THE ABATEMENT IS A REDUCTION. NOT A POST COMMENT. I WANT TO KNOW WHAT IS BEING ELIMINATED. WHAT IS BEING REDUCED. I GUESS IF OBESITY WAS ADVISED BY THE LEGAL TEAM TO PLAY NICE AND OFFER US A SWEET LITTLE GESTURE, GENTEEL SOUTHERN GESTURE, TO AGREE WITH MEMORIES OF THE LEGAL TEAM WHO WANTED TO GO ON A SABBATICAL OR WINTER VACATION OR WHATEVER FOR THREE MONTHS, BUT WAS THAT A GOOD IDEA? ARE WE SUPPOSED TO PLAY NICE? IS THAT WHAT WE ARE HERE TO DO? THE WAY THAT THIS MOTION WAS DRAFTED, IT SAYS THAT FOR 90 DAYS THE CITY CAN'T DO ANYTHING OR WILL NOT DO ANYTHING. BUT PARTICIPATED IN MEDIATION. THAT MEDIATION WAS ALREADY REQUIRED BY COURT MANDATE SO 90 DAYS IS THREE MONTHS. THAT BRINGS US TO MAY. MAY IS REALLY CLOSE TO AUGUST. AUGUST IS WHEN THE COURT CASE IS. SO I GET THAT WE ARE HOPING FOR A NEW CASE MANAGEMENT. AND WHAT I WANT TO KNOW IS WHAT IF THE JUDGE SAYS, YOU GUYS AGREED TO THAT SORRY WE ARE GOING TO COURT IN AUGUST. I THINK THAT WE ARE A PODUNK CITY THAT IS GOING UP AGAINST THE BIG, CORPORATE, INTERNATIONAL CORPORATE ENTITY AND WE NEED TO PLAY. OUR CARDS SMART>> MAYOR ANTUM: THANK YOU MS. FERRERA. MADAM PRINCE DO YOU WANT TO WAIT FOR COMMENTS. >> I CAN RESPOND NOW. THERE WAS CONFUSIONVICE I SPOKE WITH SOROTA-- AND GET A RESPONSE A LITTLE AFTER 1 O'CLOCK THAT THE HEARING HAD BEEN CANCELED. I WAS NOT AWARE THAT THE CITY WAS NOT AWARE, AND IT WAS DUE TO THE 90 DAYS ADVANCE. AND ADVANCE IN A COURT OF LAW IS [00:10:04] JUST THAT IT DOES HOLD IT OFF IT IS NOT THAT YOU ARE GIVING ANY CONCESSIONS WHAT IT MEANS IS WE WILL NOT BE SPENDING THE TIME AND ENERGY AND MONEY ON EITHER SIDE TO GO TO DEPOSITIONS WHICH WERE BEING SCHEDULED TO ATTEND HEARINGS AND SPENDING MONEY ON DISCOVERY WHILE WE TAKE TIME TO GO TO THIS MEDIATION. WHAT IT ALSO ALLOWS US TO DO IS RESET THE TRIAL CALENDAR. SO WE WOULD'VE HAD TO GO TO MEDIATION DAY, WHICH WAS MANDATED ON OR BEFORE AUGUST 13. OUR PRETRIAL WOULD HAVE BEEN AUGUST 17. OUR TRIAL WOULD HAVE BEEN THE 27TH AND THAT WAS A 10 DAY A TRIAL. THAT WAS NOT GOING TO BE WORK VERY WELL. AND THIS ORDER ALLOWS THE TRIAL TO BE RESET. THERE WILL BE A MOTION TO CANCEL THE TRIAL AND WE ANTICIPATE THE TRIAL IS GOING TO BE CANCELED. I DID APPROVE THAT. I DID NOT HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO APPROVE THE MOTION SENT TO THE COURT TO COUNSEL THE MOTION TO STRIKE THE HEARING THAT IS BEING HELD. SO IT -- UNFORTUNATELY NOT HANDLED WELL THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE IN LITIGATION COUNSEL. WE WERE NOT UPDATED AND COMMUNICATING WELL, AND COMMUNICATING TO THE PUBLIC. BECAUSE I KNEW THAT SOME PEOPLE WERE GOING TO A 10 AND I ASSUMED IT WAS HAPPENING AND SO AGREEING TO THE 90 DAYS DOES NOT MEAN THAT THE CITY HAS CHANGED POSITION ON THE BIOETHANOL PLANT AND IT VIOLATE THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. IT SIMPLY ALLOWS US TO WE HAVE AN EXECUTIVE SESSION ON THE 17TH FOR TWO HOURS TO PREPARE FOR MEDIATION. AND IF NOTHING COMES FROM THAT MEDIATION, AND WE IMPASSE THE COURT HAS ASKED US AND MANDATED US TO MAKE ANY ORDER RESETTING THE TRIAL CASE AND THE CASE WILL BE BACK UP. IT IS SIMPLY A PAUSE. AND THAT IS WHAT-- THIS LITIGATION COUNSEL AND RYAN'S COUNSEL PROPOSED WAS IN THE BEST INTEREST OF BOTH SIDES I CAN ANSWER. YOUR QUESTIONS WE JUMPED ON IT AS SOON AS WE FOUND OUT. I DID NOT HAVE-- I WAS NOT AWARE OF IT UNTIL FRIDAY MORNING THAT IT WAS SUCH A PROBLEM OR A CONCERN. SO AS SOON AS I HEARD ABOUT IT, WE ISSUED A STATEMENT BACK I BELIEVE WAS MS. SANDRA KERRY (PHONETIC) THAT BROUGHT THIS TO MY ATTENTION THANKFULLY, AND WE SEND A PRESS RELEASE. WE UNDERSTOOD THERE WAS CONCERN. >> MAYOR ANTUM: THANK YOU MS. PRINCE. ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS ON THIS? S MATTSEEING NNONE, WE WILL HAVE OUR NEXT SPEAKER MR. ALLEN HAWKINS. >> GOOD EVENING ALAN HOPKINS AND I LIVE AT -- I THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE I KNOW IT IS NOT EASY. THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE. I WANT YOU TO IMAGINE THAT YOU HAVE A PIECE OF PROPERTY, AND YOUR GOOD FRIEND HAD A PIECE OF PROPERTY RIGHT NEXT TO YOUR PROPERTY. THEY WERE IDENTICAL. AND YOU HIRE A CONTRACTOR TO BUILD A HOUSE AND SO DID HE. THE EXACT SAME HOUSE. NOTHING DIFFERENT ABOUT IT. EVERYTHING WAS EXACTLY THE SAME. AFTER ABOUT A YEAR, HAVING THE HOUSE BUILT, HIS HOUSE AND YOUR HOUSE, YOU HAD A DISCUSSION GOING. YOU FIND OUT THAT THE CONTRACTOR IS CHARGING YOU $1 MILLION MORE THAN YOUR FRIEND. THE SAME HOUSE. SAME HOUSE. WORK IS NOT DONE YET, SO YOU GO TO THE CONTRACTOR AND SAY, "HEY WHAT ARE YOU CHARGING ME AN EXTRA MILLION DOLLARS?" HE SAID SOMEBODY SIGNED THE COUNTER FOR YOU. SAME HOUSE YOU ASK HIM, "WHEN YOU FINISH THE HOUSE BETWEEN NOW AND THEN CAN YOU AT LEAST CHARGE ME WITH YOUR CHARGING HIM TO FINISH IT?" THE CONTRACTOR TELLS YOU NO. THE HOUSE IS DONE AND PAID OFF YOU'RE GOING TO BUILD ANOTHER HOUSE. THE CONTRACTOR SAYS, "HEY I WANT TO WORK WITH YOU AGAIN." DO YOU KNOW ANYBODY WHO WOULD GO BACK AND WORK WITH THAT CONTRACTOR AGAIN? IN FACT YOUR [00:15:03] RESPONSIBILITY IS YOU TELL PEOPLE THAT I AM FISCALLY CONSERVATIVE. I WILL TAKE CARE OF MY MONEY SO I AM GOING TO GO TO SOMEBODY ELSE WILL DO IT FOR ME THAT I CAN TRUST AND RELY UPON. THAT IS WHAT YOU DO. THAT IS WHAT WE ALL DO. THAT IS WHAT YOU SHOULD DO. THANK YOU. >> MAYOR ANTUM: THANK YOU MR. HOPKINS NEXT IS SANDY KERRY. >> -- I WAS WAITING ON THAT ZOOM MEETING I WANTED ANANSWER AS TO WHY THE HEARING HAD BEEN CANCELED AND IT SEEMS THE OPPOSING COUNSEL KNEW. THAT LEAVES VERY LITTLE TIME MY QUESTION IS ONE OF THE COUNTABILITY HERE BECAUSE SOMEONE MAY THE DECISION ON BEHALF OF THE CITY TO AGREE, TO THAT MOTION CANCELING THE HEARING AND FOR THE ADVANCE AND YET NONE OF THE ELECTED OFFICIALS WERE CONSULTED. IT SOUNDS LIKE FROM WHAT MS. PRINCE, SHE DID NOT KNOW ABOUT IT EITHER, MY QUESTION IS IF YOUR LITIGATORS VICE SORROTA AND HARRISON POOL MADE THAT DECISION IN THE ABSENCE OF ANY COMMUNICATION WITH ELECTED OFFICIALS. THAT IS THE PROBLEM OF ACCOUNTABILITY. AND IT DOES KNOW THE MEDIATION IS COURT Select to skip to this part of the video">MAKE A DIFFERENCE. KNOW THE MEDIATION IS COURT ORDERED, IT IS ALL BEEN DECIDED AS OF LAST YEAR. IT IS GOING TO HAVE TO TAKE PLACE. THE POINT IS HAVING THAT MOTION CONSIDERED BY THE JUDGE AND A DECISION RENDERED WOULD MAKE A BIG DIFFERENCE GOING INTO THOSE MEDIATION MEETINGS BECAUSE YOU WOULD'VE HAD THE RULING OF THE JUDGE WHICH WAS VERY IMPORTANT ON THE MOTION TO STRIKE THAT THEY FILED AND NOW YOU DO NOT HAVE THAT NOW IT HAS GOTTEN PUSHED OUT SO AM BACK TO ACCOUNTABILITY. WHERE IS IT THAT VICE SORROTA OR HARRISON POOL WERE GIVEN THE OKAY TO AGREE TO THAT NOTION WITHOUT THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OR THE COMMISSION'S KNOWLEDGE? THAT IS HOW LOOSELY THINGS ARE HANDLED AND WE HAVE A PROBLEM, THANK YOU. >> MAYOR ANTUM: THANK YOU MS. CARRIE. --- >> MY NAME IS FRANK -- NEXT MR. GOOD EVENING MY NAME IS MY NAME IS I TEND TO AGREE WITH MOST OF WHAT HAS BEEN SAID I THINK THE HANDLING OF THIS IS A LITTLE UNNERVING BUT I WANT TO SPEAK TO YOU AS A LAWYER AND WHAT YOU SHOULD BE LOOKING AT WHEN MOVING FORWARD IN THIS LITIGATION IT DOES DISTURB ME A GREAT DEAL OF THE MOTION FOR ABATEMENT WAS AGREED TO THE ABATEMENT ESSENTIALLY TOOK OFF THE TABLE EMOTION THAT WOULD HAVE DECIDED SINCE STRENGTH TO THE CITY CASE IN REGARDS TO THE AFFIRMATIVE DEFENSE YOU HAVE FILED. I FEEL THOSE AFFIRMATIVE DEFENSES ARE STRONG IN YOU WOULD'VE GOTTEN VERY GOOD RULING FROM THE COURT. IT WOULD'VE POSITIONED THE CITY TO GO INTO A MEDIATION FROM A POSITION OF STRENGTH. AND THE REALITY IS, YOU KNOW MEDIATION IS A DISCUSSION. SO IT DISCUSSION THAT IS MANAGED BY-- AND HOPEFULLY-- A TRAINED MEDIATOR WHOSE JOB IT IS TO TELL BOTH SIDES THIS IS A STRENGTH AND WEAKNESS OF YOUR CASE THIS IS A STRENGTH AND WEAKNESS OF YOUR CASE AND THIS IS WHAT YOU SHOULD SETTLE AND THIS IS WHY YOU SHOULD SETTLE. AND THE PARTIES SHOULD SETTLE. THAT IS THE IDEA. DOES NOT WORK THAT WAY IN REALITY. I WAS A LAWYER FOR 18 YEARS. I TRIED 50 CASES, THE VERDICT; I HAVE BEEN TO A LOT OF MEDIATIONS. THEY DON'T TYPICALLY GO THAT WAY, TYPICALLY. [00:20:01] WHAT CONCERNS ME IS I DON'T KNOW WHEN THIS MEDIATION WILL TAKE PLACE BUT YOU WILL BE GOING INTO A MEDIATION WITHOUT KNOWING WHICH WAY THE COURT IS LEANING ON THE AFFIRMATIVE DEFENSES AND THAT IS CRITICAL. BECAUSE OF THE JUDGE IS GOING TO RULE THAT THE CITY'S AFFIRMATIVE DEFENSES ARE SOLID AND I BELIEVE THEY ARE SOLID, THEN YOU WALK INTO A MEDIATION; AND THE MEDIATION YOU CAN SAY TO THE MEDIATOR, "THIS IS WHY WE BELIEVE WE ARE RIGHT AND THEY ARE WRONG." AND THE MEDIATOR CAN PICK THAT UP AND MOST MEDIATORS IF THEY PREPARED. THEY WILL KNOW THIS AND THEY CAN USE THAT TO PUSH A SETTLEMENT. THAT IS NOT GOING TO HAPPEN. IT ALSO DISTURBS ME THAT IT WAS AGREED UPON FOR 90 DAYS WITH NO ACTIVITY IN THIS LAWSUIT. I DO NOT UNDERSTAND I JUST DON'T. THE IDEA AND THE CONCEPT I GUESS IS WE DON'T WANT TO SPEND THE MONEY. WE DON'T WANT TO SPEND THE FUNDS TO DO THAT. WELL THAT IS TRUE. IT IS A FACT ON BOTH SIDES. WITH THAT I WILL LEAVE IT. I THINK YOU SHOULD TAKE A HARD LOOK AT THIS MOTION TO ABATE IN THE AGREEMENT. >> MAYOR ANTUM: THANK YOU I [6. CONSENT AGENDA] HAVE NO OTHER REQUESTS TO SPEAK FOR ITEMS NOT ON THE AGENDA SEEING NO ADDITIONAL HANDS IN THE AUDIENCE WE WILL MOVE ON TO CONSENT AGENDA ITEM 6. ANY WISHES TO STRIKE ANYTHING ON THE AGENDA? PLEASE CALL THE VOTE. >> (VOTING) >> MAYOR ANTUM: THAT MOTION [7.1 BINGO LICENSE APPROVAL — ST. MICHAEL'S CATHOLIC CHURCH - RESOLUTION 2026-12 APPROVING ST. MICHAEL'S CATHOLIC CHURCH BINGO LICENSE APPLICATION TO CONDUCT BINGO ONCE PER QUARTER BEGINNING IN 2026; AUTHORIZING ADMINISTRATIVE CORRECTION OF SCRIVENER'S ERRORS; AUTHORIZING EXECUTION; AND PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE. Synopsis: In accordance with Municipal Code Article II. - Bingo and Other Games; St. Michael's Catholic Church requests approval of a Bingo License to conduct bingo games once per quarter beginning in 2026.] PASSE THAT MOTION PASSES 5-0. THIS IS NOW RESOLUTIONS. 7.1 BINGO LICENSE APPROVAL ST. MICHAEL'S CATHOLIC CHURCH - RESOLUTION 2026-12 APPROVING ST. MICHAEL'S CATHOLIC CHURCH BINGO LICENSE APPLICATION TO CONDUCT BINGO ONCE PER QUARTER BEGINNING IN 2026; AUTHORIZING ADMINISTRATIVE CORRECTION OF SCRIVENER'S ERRORS; AUTHORIZING EXECUTION; AND PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE. >> >> MAYOR ANTUM: ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS? >> THEY SAY THEY ARE RAISING MONEY. >> I DON'T SEE TI NOW. FUNDRAISING FOR ST. MICHAEL'S YOUTH MINISTRY. >> MOVE RESOLTUION 2612 TO APPROVE. >> MAYOR ANTUM: MOTION AND SECOND. ANY ADDITIONAL DISCUSSION? SEEING NONE, START THE VOTE. >> THE CITY RECEIVED TWO BID [7.2 AUTHORIZING CONSTRUCTION AND AWARD OF INVITATION TO BID 26-02 - AREA 6 DRAINAGE IMPROVEMENTS - RESOLUTION 2026-13 AUTHORIZING CONSTRUCTION FOR THE AREA 6 DRAINAGE IMPROVEMENTS AND AWARDING INVITATION TO BID 26-02 TO HASSELL CO. INT., LLC IN FISCAL YEAR 2025/2026; AUTHORIZING ADMINISTRATIVE CORRECTION OF SCRIVENER’S ERRORS; AUTHORIZING EXECUTION; AND PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE. Synopsis: Authorizes construction of Area 6 (Ash Street) Drainage Improvements and awards ITB 26-02 for Area 6 Drainage Improvements to Hassell Co. Int., LLC in the amount of $1,918,475.30] RESPONSES. THE CITY RECEIVED A BID IN THE AMOUNT OF -- AND THIS WOULD AUTHORIZE AWARD AND THE CONSTRUCITON AND THE 315 FUND, THE REAMINING ARPA FUNDS, REQUIRED TO SPEND BY THE END OF [00:25:10] THIS YEAR. MR. -- IS HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. >> MAYOR ANTUM: ANY QUESTIONS? >> CAN YOU TELL US THE OTHER BIDS? >> THE ONE FROM -- WAS AND THE OTHER WAS 9.4 MILLION DOLLARS. >> CAN YOU ELABORATE? >> WHY IS THERE SUCH A HUGE DISCREPANCY? >> BOTH CONTRACTORS SUBMITTED AN ITEMIZED LIST. I DON'T KNOW HOW THEY ARRIVED AT THOSE NUMBERS. WE HAVE WORKED WITH -- AND I'VE BEEN VERY IMPRESSED. >> MAYOR ANTUM: MR. -- DON'T SIT DOWN. >> COMMISSIONER TUTEN: I WANT TO MAKE SURE BECAUSE WE ARE LIKE STARTING A NEW CHAPTER HOW WE ARE MANAGING CONTRACTORS AND CONTRACTS. I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE THE GUARDRAILS IN PLACE THE HOLD THIS NOT JUST THIS CONTRACTOR BUT ALL CONTRACTORS TO STRICT COMPLIANCE AND TIMELINES IN THEIR CONTRACTS MORE THAN WHAT WE HAVE HAD IN THE PAST. >> YES WE SPECIFICALLY PROVIDED THAT INFORMATION IN THE CONTRACT FOR THE PERFORMANCE PERIOD. AND DAMAGES SHOULD THEY EXCEED THAT PERFORMANCE PERIOD. AND SO I BELIEVE WE HAVE THE NECESSARY MEANS TO HOLD THOSE CONTRACTORS ACCOUNTABLE. AND CERTAINLY WE WILL HAVE THE PRESENCE AND OVERSIGHT TO MAKE SURE THAT IF THINGS ARE NOT PROCEEDING AS WE NEED TO WE ARE ON TOP OF IT VERY QUICKLY. >> COMMISSIONER TUTEN: WILL YOU ESTIMATE THIS PROJECT WILL START? >> WE SHOULD HAVE A CONTRACTION SCHEDULE THIS WEEK AT THAT POINT I WILL DISCUSS WITH OUR DOWNTOWN MANAGER HAVING A SMALL TOWN HALL HEARING AT CITY HALL TO LET THE AFFECTED PROPERTY OWNERS KNOW WHAT TO EXPECT. SO THEY HAVE INDICATED THEY WILL START ON THIS FIRST BLOCK IN ASH STREET BETWEEN SECOND AND FRONT STREET WITH THE MAJORITY OF WORK WILL TAKE PLACE AND WE WILL HAVE A BETTER PICTURE OF THE NEXT TWO DAYS OF WHAT THE TIMELINE LOOKS LIKE AN IS AND AS WE DO WE WILL ROLL THAT OUT TO THE COMMUNITY AND MAKE SURE WE KEEP THEM IN THE LOOP. >> COMMISSIONER TUTEN: DO WE HAVE AN ESTIMATE OF HOW LONG THE ENTIRE PROCESS IS GOING TO LAST? ARE YOU WAITING TO SEE THE REST OF THE CONSTRUCTION SCHEDULE? >> THE SUBSTANTIAL COMPLETION OF STORMWATER PORTION IS DUE BY EARLY JULY-- SORRY EARLY JUNE. AND THEN FINAL PAVEMENT CONCRETE AND EVERYTHING RESTORED BY JULY 31. >> COMMISSIONER TUTEN: THAT IS ALL DONE BY THE SAME CONTRACTOR? >> YES. >> COMMISSIONER TUTEN: THEY WILL DO THE STORM RENOVATION WORK? >> YES. IT WAS SPECIFICALLY ADDRESSED IN THE CONTRACT THE RAILROAD CROSSING WOULD HAVE TO BE FULLY OPEN FOR THE WEEK LEADING UP TO SHRIMP FEST. THEY BUILT THAT INTO THEIR SCHEDULES AND THAT IS BEEN FIRST AND FOREMOST IN OUR CONVERSATIONS WITH THEM.. >> MAYOR ANTUM: THANK YOU COMMISSIONER. COMMISSIONER TUTEN? >> COMMISSIONER TUTEN:WHO IS GOING TO BE THE PROJECT MANAGER. >> JOHN BROWN WILL BE MY MANAGER HE WILL BE BOOTS ON THE GROUND KEEPING TRACK SOME THINGS. HE IS ALREADY DOING THAT. >> COMMISSIONER TUTEN: AWESOME THANK YOU. >> MAYOR ANTUM: I SEE NO OTHERR MOTION TO APPROVE EQUEST TO SPEAK. ANY ADDITIONAL DISCUSSION? PLEASE START THE VOTE. >> MAYOR ANTUM: THAT MOTION PASSES 5-0. TAKES US TO 7.3 [7.3 AWARD OF RFP 2025-04 - MANAGEMENT BANKING SERVICES - RESOLUTION 2026-14 AWARDING RFP 25-04 FOR MANAGEMENT BANKING SERVICES TO FIRST FEDERAL BANK FOR A PERIOD OF FIVE (5) YEARS WITH TW0 (2) ONE-YEAR RENEWALS; AUTHORIZING ADMINISTRATIVE CORRECTION OF SCRIVENER'S ERRORS; AUTHORIZING EXECUTION; AND PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE. Synopsis: Awarding RFP 25-04 for Management Banking Services to First Federal Bank for a period of five (5) years, with two (2) one- year renewals by mutual agreement with negotiated changes.] 7.3 AWARD OF RFP 2025-04 - MANAGEMENT BANKING SERVICES - RESOLUTION 2026-14 AWARDING RFP 25-04 FOR MANAGEMENT BANKING SERVICES TO FIRST FEDERAL BANK FOR A PERIOD OF FIVE (5) YEARS [00:30:01] WITH TW0 (2) ONE-YEAR RENEWALS; AUTHORIZING ADMINISTRATIVE CORRECTION OF SCRIVENER'S ERRORS; AUTHORIZING EXECUTION; AND PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE. >> .---- AND WE CAN HAVE A >> SUSAN CARLOS, CONTROLLER. THE CURRENT CONTRACT WILL EXPIRE FEBRUARY 14 IN PREPARATION STOP DEVELOPED FOR MANAGEMENT SERVICES WE RECEIVED THREE RESPONSES AS WE HEARD FROM MS. CAMPBELL THE THREE RESPONSES WERE FROM FIRST FEDERAL, FIRST COURT CITIBANK AND REGIONS BANK. AS WITH ALL BIDS EVALUATIONS WERE SCORED IN CATEGORIES AND WEIGHTED TO ALLOW MORE POINTS SERVICES MOST IMPORTANT FOR MAINTAINING AND IMPROVING OPERATIONS. FOR CONSISTENCY A STANDARD METRIC WAS USED FOR EVALUATORS TO REFERENCE. THIS SLIDE SHOWS A TOTAL COMBINED POINTS GIVEN BY THE EVALUATORS THE YELLOW BOXES ARE THE TOTAL POINTS WITHOUT WEIGHTING APPLIED IN THE TOTAL COLUMN IS A POINT CALCULATED WITH THE WEIGHTED FACTOR. OH THREE EVALUATORS PRESENTED SUBMITTALS IN THE ORDER SHOWN ON THE SLIDE. FIRST FEDERA, 263 POINTS, FIRST COURT, 239 AND REGIONS 202. THE PURPOSE OF THE NEXT TWO SLIDES IS TO SHOW THE OBJECTIVE MATERIALS THAT EVALUATORS CONSIDERED WHEN THEY WERE LOOKING AT THE RFP. THE SLIDESHOWS OF MARKET SHARE IN NASSAU COUNTY FOR ALL BANKS, PART OF THE DATA REFERENCE AND USED FOR DETERMINING FINANCIAL STRENGTH AND GOVERNMENT ACCOUNTS. THE SLIDE IS WHAT THE FLORIDA CFO PUBLISHES A LIST OF ALL DEPOSITORIES. FIRST FEDERAL HAS THE MOST DEPOSITS, REGIONS SECOND AND FIRST COURT THIRD. THEY WERE RATED FIVE STARS BY BOWEN FINANCIAL. THE METHOD DETERMINED WAS NOT PRESENTED HERE BOTHFIRST COURT AND FIRST FEDERAL PROVIDED A CLEAR WAY OF CALCULATING INTEREST EARNINGS AND -- THE BOTTOM PART SHOWS THE EFFECT OF RETURNS OF RATES CONTINUE TO DECLINE. SOME OF THE OTHER POINTS OF DISCUSSION THAT THE EVALUATORS MENTIONED: COURIER. FIRST COURT HAS A SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT PROCESS FOR COURIER PICKUPS, REQUIRES EXTRA EQUIPMENT AND THE DEPOSITS ARE ONLY PICKED UP ONCE A WEEK WHICH COULD DELAY THE RECONCILIATION OF THE DEPOSITS. DISASTER PREPAREDNESS. FIRST FEDERAL PROVIDED A DETAILED DISASTER PREPAREDNESS PLAN AND THE CITY HAS EXPERIENCED SEVERE WEATHER OVER THE LAST TWO YEARS WITH NO LOSS OF SERVICE. INTEREST CALCULATION. COMMENTS FROM EVALUATORS MENTIONED THAT FIRST FEDERAL THE MIDDLE PRESENTED THE CALCULATION MORE TRANSPARENTLY. EASIER TO FIND AN EASY TO UNDERSTAND. AND THEN THE MINIMUM DEPOSIT REQUIREMENT [00:35:04] YOU WILL SEE THAT BOTH MEET THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE CITY. FOR REFERENCE THE SUBMITTAL SPECIFIES THAT THE CITY EXPECTED TO MAINTAIN A BALANCE OF 8 MILLION TO MEET OPERATIONAL. REQUIREMENTS I THINK THAT IS WHERE THAT NUMBER MAY HAVE COME FROM. THAT CONCLUDES. ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS? >> MAYOR ANTUM: ANY QUESTIONS FROM THE COMMISSION FOR MS. CARLOS?>> COMMISSIONER MINSHEW: READ THE RECOMMENDATIONS ON THE AGENDA. CAN YOU GO BACK ONE SLIDE? MY RECOLLECTION OF WHAT WE ASKED YOU TO REDO THIS AND GO THROUGH THIS RFP WAS A CONCERN OF INTEREST PERCENTAGE ON OUR MONEY. AND I LOOKED THROUGH ALL THE DOCUMENTS. I COULD NOT FIGURE OUT WHAT THE INTEREST PERCENTAGES WERE AND TO BE-- MAYBE I COULD NOT UNDERSTAND IT OR READ IT, I THOUGHT I WAS PRETTY GOOD AT THIS STUFF, BUT I GUESS I AM NOT -- SO CAN YOU REALLY SIMPLY EXPLAINED TO ME, SO WHAT IS THE PERCENTAGE OF INTEREST ON OUR MONEY THAT BOTH OF THE BANKS WERE OFFERING? >> THEY USED THE FEDERAL FUNDS RATE. ONE USED EFFECTIVE FEDERAL FUNDS RATE. THE OTHER USED TO THE UPPER LIMIT FEDERAL FUNDS RATE. THEY ARE VERY SIMILAR BUT NOT EXACTLY THE SAME. THE FORMULA FOR FIRST FEDERAL WAS 75% OF THE AFFECTED FEDERAL FUNDS RATE THE FORMULA FOR FIRST COURT WAS THE UPPER LIMIT RATE LAST ONE OR 100 BASIS POINTS. >> COMMISSIONER MINSHEW: SO WHAT ARE THOSE NUMBERS OR THE FEDERAL FUNDING PLUS ONE? I JUST NEED TO KNOW WHAT THE NUMBER IS. >> THE WAY IT WORKED OUT AND IT IS SHOWN HERE WITH SOME HISTORY SO WE CAN SEE IF IT TRENDS UP OR DOWN WHAT CAN WE PROJECT? THE MOST RECENT WORKS OUT TO FIRST FEDERAL-- AS OF THEIR MOST RECENT FOR FEDERAL IS 2.% AND FIRST COURT 2.75%. >> FOR A MILLION? >> FOR LAST YEAR 2025 WE AVERAGED, $40 MILLION MAN'S I USE THIS INDUSTRY TO APPLY TO THE BALANCE. >> COMMISSIONER MINSHEW: THOUGH THERE IS NO DIFFERENCE IN THE INTEREST RATE THEIR OFFERINGS NOW? >> VERY CLOSE. >> COMMISSIONER MINSHEW: SO THE DECISION WAS BASED ON OTHER ISSUES HOW WE CALCULATED WHAT THE TRANSITION COSTS IS? >> I ESTIMATED IT -- THE CURRENT BANK PROVIDES DEPOSIT SLIPS AND FIRST COURT THE NON-SPECIFIED BUT THEY SEEMED TO CLOSELY MIRROR A LOT OF SERVICES AS FIRST FEDERAL I JUST DID NOT LINK ANY SUPPLIES JUST LABOR CALCULATED TO BE 11,000. >> COMMISSIONER MINSHEW: YOU THINK THE COST TO THE CITY TO TRANSITION WOULD BE $11,000? >> YES FOR A PERIOD OF SIX MONTHS. WE DO THINGS DIFFERENTLY NOW. >> COMMISSIONER MINSHEW: WE DO NOT NEED TO KEEP 45 MILLION DOLLARS IN THIS BANK OR ANY BANK SO I'M CONCERNED WHY WE HAVE SO MUCH MONEY... SHOULDN'T IT BE SOMETHING ELSE? >> THAT IS WHAT WE DESIGNED THE RFP WITH AN $8 MILLION ESTIMATED BALANCE WHAT MS. CARLOS AND I DISCUSSED WAS NEEDED FOR LIQUIDITY ON A MONTHLY BASIS AND THE REST BE INVESTED ELSEWHERE WITH A HIGHER YIELD. >> COMMISSIONER MINSHEW: SO WE'RE ONLY TALKING ABOUT EIGHT OR $9 MILLION SAY $10 MILLION A [00:40:06] MONTH PASSING TO THE ACCOUNT, RIGHT? NO DIFFERENCE BETWEEN 2.73 AND 2.75. >> WE DIVIDE THOSE NUMBERS BY A QUARTER OF THE AMOUNT. >> SO THERE IS A COUPLE OF THOUSAND DOLLARS. >> MONTHLY. >> THANK YOU COMMISSIONER. COMMISSIONER TUTEN? >> COMMISSIONER TUTEN: TO BE CLEAR BECAUSE FIRST FEDERAL IS USING THE EFFECTIVE FEDERAL FUNDS RATE 75% OF THAT IS THAT RATE GOES UP AND IT RATE GOES UP THE SAME WITH FIRST COURT USING THE UPPER LIMIT MINE IS A 1%. I THINK THE MOST INTERESTING PART OF THE SLIDE IS THE BOTTOM PART... BUT I THINK THE MOST INTERESTING PART OF IT IS AND I WAS A SCIENCE TEACHER ECONOMICS WAS MY MOST FAVORITE CLASS IN COLLEGE, THE EFFECTIVE FUNDS RATE IS A TARGET RATE. AND SO, IF YOU SUBTRACT 1%, AS INTEREST RATES GET LOWERED SUBTRACTING ONE IS A BIGGER PIECE OF THE PIE. SO IF YOU LOOK AT IT AS IF THE INTEREST WERE TO DROP DOWN TO THREE IN THE BOTTOM CORNER SUBTRACTING ONE YOU DROP TO A 2% INTEREST RATE YOU ARE EFFECTIVELY ONLY GETTING 66% OF THE FEDERAL FUND RATE IS THE INTEREST RATE REPS TO 2% AND YOU SUBTRACT 1, THAT IS HALF 50% LOWER INTEREST RATES GOAL THE WORSE WE DO BY SUBTRACTING 1%. THE BETTER WE DO ON TAKING THE FIXED 75%. BUT THE OPPOSITE OCCURS IF INTEREST RATES GO UP. SO I THINK YOU KNOW, I MEAN LET'S ALL HAVE A CRYSTAL BALL. BUT I AM SURE MOST OF US REMEMBE DURING COVID THE FEDERAL TARGET WAS CLOSE TO ZERO. >> IT WAS ZERO. >> I THINK IT WAS .15 IN 2021 IF THAT NUMBER DROPPED TO ZERO-- DID WE TALK ABOUT THIS? IS THERE A FLOOR? >> THERE IS A FLOOR OF .25. >> WHAT IS THE POSSIBILITY OF HAVING THE SAME INDEX COMPARING APPLES TO APPLES? >> MR. MAYOR, THE QUESTION WAS WHAT IS THE POSSIBILITY OF HAVING THEM USE THE SAME INDEX? IT GETS TRICKY WITH A BID SITUATION EVERYBODY IS SHOWING THEIR CARDS AT THIS POINT. >> THROUGH THE MAYOR IF YOU GO BACK TO THE SLIDE WITH EACH OTHER CRITERIA, FINANCIAL STRENGTH IS NUMBER ONE. AND AS MS. CAMPBELL HAS POINTED OUT TO ME IN PRIVATE CONVERSATION THAT IS THE MOST IMPORTANT THING IN GOVERNMENT ACCOUNTING. AND THEN THE QUALITY AND SCOPE OF CONVERSION AND PLAN IMPLEMENTATION YOU TAKE INTO ACCOUNT HOW IT IS WEIGHTED THE INTEREST RATE WASN'T THE TOP PRIORITY AND IT IS NOT SUPPOSED TO BE IN GOVERNMENTAL ACCOUNTING. AND IF YOU GO TO THE OTHER SLIDE I WAS LOOKING AT IN THE RFP IT WAS CLEAR THAT THE PERCENTAGES-- SO ON PAGE 8 OF THE RFP THAT EACH BANK IS PROVIDED, FINANCIAL STRENGTH WITH 30% AND SCOPE OF CONVERSION WAS 20%. QUALITY OF PROFESSIONAL PERSONNEL ASSIGNED TO ACCOUNT WAS 20% AND THE AREA THAT YOU ARE DISCUSSING WAS A 20% CRITERIA. BUT IT ALSO INCLUDED PROPOSED FEES COMPENSATION INTEREST INCOME FORMULA THERE WAS A LOT THAT WENT INTO THE INTEREST FORMULA DECISION. IT WASN'T JUST THE INTEREST FORMULA, AND IT WAS 20%. AND THAT CRITERIA WAS DISCUSSED. IN HOW THE DECISIONS WERE PICKED UP SO THERE WAS A [00:45:02] LOT OTHER THAN THE INTEREST RATE. >> MAYOR ANTUM: THANK YOU MS. PRINCE. I HAVE COMMISSIONER -- >> I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY THERE IS SO MUCH WEIGHT FOR THE CONVERSION IT SEEMS A LITTLE-- YOU ARE ALREADY GIVING 20 POINTS TO SOMEONE BECAUSE THEY ARE ALREADY DOING IT. ANYBODY ELSE CAN'T MATCH IT. AND SO THERE IS A CONVERSION COMPONENT TO THAT WHERE THERE ISN'T A CONVERSION COMPONENT OF THE PERSON ALREADY DOING IT. IT SEEMS A LITTLE UNFAIR. >> I WANT TO HAVE A POINT OF ORDER. ARE YOU GOING TO RECUSE YOURSELF? YOU WERE SUPPOSED TO ANNOUNCE THAT PRIOR? WE HAVE A FORMULA? WE ARE SUPPOSED TO ANNOUNCE THIS ON THE RECORD. >> I WILL NOT BE VOTING ON THIS. ON ONE OF THE BANKS WE ARE TALKING ABOUT I AM A SHAREHOLDER. >> I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE IT ON THE RECORD BEFORE WE GOT TOO FAR DOWN THE ROAD AND YOU HAVE SIGNED THE PROPER STATEMENT IT IS IN THE RECORD. >> I AM JUST SUGGESTING THAT A CONVERSION SCOPE -- IF NO ONE ELSE IS WORKING WITH YOU, THEN THEY GET ZERO POINTS. AND THE PERSON GETS THE FULL POINTS BECAUSE THEY ARE ALREADY DOING IT. THAT SEEMS LIKE-- >> MAYOR ANTUM: FOR CLARIFICATION IF WE WERE TO REMOVE THAT 15 -- FIRST THE FIRST FEDERAL TALLY AT -- >> YOU ARE NOT ABLE TO CHANGE THIS AT THIS TIME IF YOU WERE TO CHANGE ANYTHING IN THIS RFP YOU HAVE TO REJECT THIS AND GO OUT FOR AN RFP JUST TO BE CLEAR FOR THE RECORD. I WAS NOT AWARE OF THAT. SO COMMISSIONER POYNTER? I HAVE COMMISSIONER TUTEN AND VICE MAYOR AYSCUE. >> COMMISSIONER TUTEN: I HEAR WHAT YOU ARE SAYING ABOUT THE COMMISSION RATE THAT IS INHERENT NATURE OF ALL RFPS THAT IS THE MAIN THING MY HUSBAND DID FOR 27 YEARS IN THE ARMY WITH MEDICAL LOGISTICS CONTRACTING HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS OF DOLLARS AND THE SITTING VENDOR IS ALWAYS AT AN ADVANTAGE. THERE IS NO WAY TO GET AROUND IT. BUT NONETHELESS, UNDERSTANDING HOW ANOTHER BANK WOULD CONVERT US AND THE COST, THE TIME AND THE COST TO STAFF STILL AN IMPORTANT METRIC. WHETHER IT IS FAIR OR NOT TO THE NEW VENDORS. ALSO AS A SIDE NOTE I THINK THAT WE ARE SITTING HERE DISCUSSING INTEREST RATES WHICH AS PRIVATE INVESTORS, IT IS CRITICAL. BUT THIS IS NOT OUR MONEY. AT ANY PRIVATE INVESTORS CONCERNED ABOUT THE INTEREST RATE VARIES WITH WHAT IS HAPPENING IN THEIR LIVES. ARE YOU 25 AND HAVE 60 YEARS LEFT? OR ARE YOU IN RETIREMENT ALREADY IN YOUR MORE CONCERNED ABOUT SAFETY? I THINK THIS RANKING SYSTEM -- DID YOU SAY THAT THIS IS A STANDARD RANKING SYSTEM THAT IS USED OFTEN? >> THE WEIGHTING SYSTEM IS FOR ALL BIDS. AND THE WAY THE FACTORS ARE USED IN THE WAY IT IS DETERMINED THROUGH EXAMINING WE RESEARCH SIMILAR RFPS DONE BY OTHER CITIES OUR SIZE AND WE TRY TO DECIDE WHAT WORKS WITH OUR OPERATION. BECAUSE SOME OF THEM WE HAVE MORE ACCOUNTS. SOME HAVE LESS. WE ARE LOOKING AT WHAT SEEMS TO BE HOW WE WORK AND WOULD BE A GOOD METRIC. >> MAYOR ANTUM: VICE MAYOR? >> VICE-MAYOR AYSCUE: I THINK COMMISSIONER TUTEN AND COMMISSIONER POYNTER BRING UP EXCELLENT POINTS THERE IS A [00:50:01] HOME-FIELD ADVANTAGE AND I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH SHOULD BE WEIGHTED WITH WHAT IT IS BECAUSE I KIND OF AGREE WITH COMMISSIONER POYNTER. REALLY THIS ISSUE DOES NOT SEEM TO BE THAT COMPLICATED BUT I GET THE HOME FEEL ADVANTAGE --MY BIGGEST ISSUE IS COMPARING APPLES TO APPLES. I AM NOT HERE TO ATTEMPT WHAT PASSED OVER FIVE YEARS AND ARE NOT GOING TO TRY TO DO THAT. I WOULD JUST ASSUME HAVE APPLES TO APPLES. I DON'T KNOW WHY WE CANNOT WRITE THAT INTO THE RFP. MAY BE TOO LATE NOW. THAT IS THE ISSUE I'M HAVING. NOT GOING TO TRY TO SIT HERE AND FORECAST WHAT WILL HAPPEN OVER THE NEXT FIVE YEARS I WOULD RATHER SEE IT. IN PLAIN SIGHT THAT IS WHERE I AM WITH IT. >> MAYOR ANTUM: THANK YOU VICE MAYOR. G COMMISSIONER MINSHEW? >> ALL OF THE SAME LINES IF YOU ADDED TO THE SCOPE OF CONVERSION THAT IS 40 POINTS OUT OF 100 THAT ARE BEING ADVANTAGE TO THE INCUMBENT. REALLYI'M NOT SATISFIED. >> CAN YOU EXPLAIN THAT? >> COMMISSIONER MINSHEW: GOING BACK TO THE TABLE NUMBER TWO AND THREE ARE BOTH 20 POINTS AND THEY BOTH FAVOR THE INCUMBENT THAT IS 40 POINTS OUT OF 100 OR 40% OF YOUR CRITERIA WEIGHTED TO HELP THE INCUMBENT IN MY OPINION. I THINK THAT 20 POINTS TO THE PERSONNEL ASSIGNED IS WAY TOO HIGH. SO THAT'S JUST... >> WHY DOES THAT FAVOR THE INCUMBENT? HE SAID THE ACTUAL POINTS ASSIGNED--- NEED TO COMPARE. >> INTERESTINGLY ENOUGH IF YOU LOOK AT THE MATH, IF WE WERE TO REMOVE BOTH 2 AND 3 WHICH I UNDERSTAND WE CANNOT DO, FIRST FEDERAL STILL AHEAD. BY THAT WEIGHT WERE NUMBER THREE FOR PERSONNEL THEY WERE BOTH WEIGHTED THE SAME, THEY BOTH GOT THE WEIGHTED POINTS OF 52 FOR NUMBER TWO THE SCOPE OF CONVERSION IF YOU WERE TO SUBTRACT 44 POINT -- FIRST FEDERAL WOULD STILL BE AHEAD. I ALSO ... BANKS DEALING WITH THIS AMOUNT OF MONEY, I DON'T NECESSARILY THINK WELL MAYBE I AM NAÏVE. DEFINITELY I AM NAÏVE I AM NOT A BANKER. DON'T MISUNDERSTAND. BUT UNLESS THIS GOES OUT FOR ANOTHER RFP THEY DID NOT GIVE US A FIXED RATE FOR A REASON. THEY GAVE US A RATE THAT FLOATS ON THE FEDERAL RATE. BECAUSE THE FEDERAL RATE ESPECIALLY OVER THE LAST FIVE YEARS HAS BEEN ALL OVER THE PLACE OF THE ARE NOT GOING TO FIX IT. THEY ARE NOT GOING TO CONTACT US FOR FIVE YEARS AT A SET INTEREST RATE WHEN NOBODY KNOWS WHERE THE HECK INTEREST RATES ARE GOING THERE GOING TO FLOAT IT ALL THE FEDERAL RATE AND THEY GAVE US TWO DIFFERENT OPTIONS TO FLOAT. EITHER THE FEDERAL TARGET RATE IS 3.5 TO 3.75 RIGHT NOW, SO THAT THE UPPER LIMIT IS 3.75. SO FIRST COURT-- WHO IS GIVING US -1, THE UPPER LIMIT AND FIRST FEDERAL WILL GIVE A 75% OF THE EFFECTIVE RATE, THE OVERNIGHT RATE THAT ACTUALLY GOT-- WHEN BANKS DO THEIR INTER LOANS, THE ACTUAL MARKET RATE. >> AND YOU GO BACK TO THE OTHER ONE THE ONE WITH THE INTEREST? >> IF I WERE A BETTING PERSON-- WHICH I AM-- WELL ACTUALLY I AM NOT A BETTING PERSON WITH OTHER PEOPLE'S MONEY. I DON'T KNOW BUT ALL I CAN SEE IS, AT THE CURRENT RATES, THEY ARE PRACTICALLY THE SAME. AT DECLINING RATES, FIRST FEDERAL IS DOING BETTER. AND EVEN AT SOME OF THE OLDER UPGRADES, HIGHER RATES ARE NOT THAT FAR OFF. I DON'T KNOW. I AM CONTENT. WITH THIS RFP I AM CONTENT WITH FIRST FEDERAL. [00:55:02] >> MAYOR ANTUM: WE EITHER GOING TO VOTE ON ONE OF HER CHOICES THIS EVENING OR WE ARE GOING TO ASK THE STAFF AND I KNOW HOW THIS WOULD GO TO REFINE THE PROCESS OF OUR SELECTION AND BRING THIS BACK AT A FUTURE AGENDA ITEM DO WE HAVE A MOTION? >> WHAT DO YOU NEED? >> MR. MAYOR WOULD HELP HIS OUTPUT OPTIONS ON THE TABLE? IF YOU'RE NOT INTERESTED IN MAKING A SELECTION TONIGHT STAFF WOULD NEED DIRECTION AS TO WHETHER YOU WOULD LIKE US TO CLARIFY CERTAIN AREAS OR GO BACK AND ASK CERTAIN CLARIFYING QUESTIONS OF THE PROPOSALS. OR IF YOU WERE NOT INTERESTED IN THESE PROPOSALS AT ALL, AND YOU WOULD LIKE A COMPLETE REISSUANCE OF THE RFP WITH DIFFERENT FACTORS THOSE ARE THE PATHS AS I SEE THEM. >> OR A MOTION TO APPROVE. >> OR MOTION TO APPROVE ONE OF THE BANKS I DON'T THINK WE CANNOT BROADLY GO BACK AND PICK AND CHOOSE CERTAIN THINGS. WE EITHER NEED TO GET SOME CLARITY ON A COUPLE OF POINTS, AND WE DO THAT EQUALLY TO THE TOP RAN PROPOSERS. OR YOU ARE SCRAPPING THE PROCESS WITH DIFFERENT GOALS IN MIND GOING FORWARD. >> MAYOR ANTUM: IS THERE ANY CONSENSUS ABOUT ASKING FOR FURTHER CLARIFICATION AND WHAT THAT CLARIFICATION WOULD BE ? OR ARE WE MORE INTERESTED IN MAKING THAT MOTION TO APPROVE OR REISSUING? >> I AM NOT INTERESTED IN REISSUING THE RFP. THE BANKS HAVE SHOWN THEIR CARDS IT IS NOT FAIR TO OTHER BANKS THAT MIGHT WANT TO APPLY. I THINK THE CONTRACT EXPIRES IN MAY. TO PUT OUT AN RFP AND REVIEW ITS TALLY AND GET BACK ON OUR AGENDA FOR US TO MAKE A DECISION, AND ALSO I AM NOT EXPERT ABOUT THIS. THE EXPERTS-- BUT IF WE, IF I DID GET ANYMORE INFORMATION I WOULD BE INTERESTED IN THIS FLOOR THAT FIRST COURT. HAS NO FLOOR IS THERE FLOOR ZERO? I DON'T WANT ZERO. >> MAYOR ANTUM: ONE CLARIFICATION REQUEST IF WE CHOOSE TO GO THAT ROUTE CLARIFYING THE FLOOR OF THE INTEREST RATE IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE THE COMMISSION NEEDS TO CONSIDER IF THAT IS THE ROUTE WE CHOOSE TO GO? >> I HAVE CONCERNS ABOUT THAT. THERE WAS DISCUSSION ABOUT HAVING APPLES TO APPLES INTEREST RATE BUT ASKING THEM TO CLARIFY THE FLOOR IS NOT IN THEIR PROPOSAL ANYWHERE NOW THEY KNOW THE FLOOR OF THE OTHER. >> MAYOR ANTUM: SO WE SHOULD ENTERTAIN A MOTION FOR OR REISSUE. >> I WILL MAKE A MOTION. >> MAYOR ANTUM: DO I HAVE A SECOND? THAT MOTION DIES FOR LACK OF A SECOND. DO I HAVE ANOTHER MOTION? THE AGENDA ITEM CAN'T DIE. >> I WILL WRITE I WILL MAKE A MOTION AGAIN TOWARD THIS CONTRACT TO FIRST FEDERAL. >> I WILL SECOND IT, SO WE CAN GET IT ON THE FLOOR. >> MAYOR ANTUM: MOTION HAS BEEN SECONDED ANY ADDITIONAL DISCUSSION? SEEING NONE START THE VOTE. THE MOTION FAILS FOR LACK OF A MAJORITY. DO I HAVE ANOTHER MOTION? THE ONLY OTHER OPTION IS TO -- IS THAT MOTION IS TO FAIL THE ONLY OTHER OPTION I SEE-- UNLESS CLARIFIED-- IS TO ASK FOR REISSUANCE OF THE RFP. WITH THE LACK OF MAJORITY ON THE MOTION, WE HAVE BEEN CONSIDERING A MOTION FOR REISSUANCE OF THE RFP. >> YOU MAKE A MOTION TO AWARD, TO A DIFFERENT BANK IF THE RESULTS COME OUT DIFFERENTLY. >> I WOULD MOVE THAT WE AWARD THIS TO FIRST COURT. >> MAYOR ANTUM: DO I HAVE SECOND? [01:00:02] THAT MOTION DIES FOR LACK OF A SECOND. >> >> MOTION AND SECOND. ADDITIONA DISCUSSION? >> I THINK THAT IS THE ONLY ROUTE TO GO. MS. CAMPBELL, ANY OTHER ROUTE? >> BASED ON THE PATH, THAT SEEMS TO BE THE ONLY WAY TO PROCEED. THINGS YOU WANT TO SEE ADJUSTED AND ADDED, COMPARE APPLES TO APPLES ON INTEREST RATES, YOU MENTIONED. YOU MENTIONED OTHER CRITERIA YOU WOULD LIKE TO SEE OMITTED OR ADDED. >> MAYOR ANTUM: YOU HAVE THE MOTION. PLEAS START THE VOTE. THAT MOTION PASSES 4-0. LET'S HAVE OUR STAFF HEAR OUR CONSIDERATIONS. PERSONALLY I HAVE NO OTHER ISSUES WITH THE RFP. I WOULD LIKE TO HEAR OTHERS' OPINIONS. >> I WOULD LIKE TO SEE LESS WEIGHT ON THE INCUMBENT. >> AND STAFF ISSUES ARE WEIGHTED TOO HIGH. >> THE INTEREST RATES. >> THEY BOTH DO A LOT FOR THIS COMMUNITY, HEAVILY INVOLVED IN THE COMMUNITY BOTH ARE GREAT BANKS. MY BIGGEST HOLD UP IS THE WAY TO BE HELD TO THE INTEREST RATES. AND APPLES TO APPLES. WHEN YOU TAKE THE MAJOR FACTORS TO MAKE SURE THE MONEY IS NOT GOING TO BE HACKED OR STOLEN..., WE CAN PROBABLY MAKE JUST ABOUT ANYTHING ELSE TO WORK. >> I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHERE IN AN RFP WE REQUIRE A BANK TO PEG THEIR INTEREST RATES. >> THEY PEGGED IT, ONE TO THE FERDERAL RATE AND THE OTHER TO AN UPPER LIMIT. >> SAME METRIC. >> SAME PROBLEM. WE ARE SAYING APPLES TO APPLES. >> WE CAN REQUIRE IT IN THE RFP. >> EITHER PEG TO THE LOWER... >> I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU DO THAT TO A BANK. I DON'T KNOW HOW A BANK OPERATES. I WILL LET IT LIE. >> MR. MAYOR, FROM CITIZEN INPUT I HAD A REQUEST THAT WE MISSED THE MARK ON REQUIREMENT A PRESENCE ON THE CITY LIMITS. THERE ARE BANKS ON THE ISLAND THAT WERE BANNED FROM PROPOSING. A BANK ON THE SOUTH [01:05:08] SIDE... >> WE SHOULD BE OPEN TO THAT. >> MY VOTE WOULD BE LEGALLY IN THIS NATION, ANYWHERE. >> MY BANK IS IN TEXAS. I HAVE NO PROBLEM. >> I WOULD SAY THEY SHOULD BE IN NASSAU COUNTY. IF YOU HAVE COURIER SERVICE... >> YOU ARE RIGHT. I DIDN'T THINK ABOUT THAT. >> THE LAST QUESTION ABOUT COMMUNITY SUPPORT, DO YOU WANT THAT TO BE CONSIDERED AS A CATEGORY? >> I BELIEVE IT SHOULD BE CONSIDERED, BUT NOT -- >> FIVE POINTS. >> THAT IS A WONDERFUL THING BUT HOW DO YOU MEASURE THAT? >> SHOULD BE WEIGHTED ON HOW PROVIDES THE BEST SERVICE. WHILE COMMUNITY INVOLVEMENT IS ADMIRABLE, SHOULD NOT BE A PART OF THE DECISION. >> MAYOR ANTUM: I DO HAVE A REPRESENTATIVE TO SPEAK FROM FIRST FEDERAL, MR. WEAVER. COME ON UP. >> I APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY TO BID ON THE RFP. TO BE HONEST WITH YOU I THINK WE WILL WIN THE RFP QUITE FRANKLY. JIM WEAVER FIRST FEDERAL BANK -- THE WAY I SEE IT IS THAT IT IS A DISSERVICE QUITE FRANKLY TO FIRST COURT IN OURSELVES TO DO ANOTHER RFP LIKE EVERYBODY SAID WE HAVE SHOWN OUR CARDS. ANYBODY ELSE WHO WANTS TO COME IN AND BID NOW KNOWS WHERE WE STAND. AND TO GO THIS ROUTE AGAIN, WE WENT TO THIS ROUTE BEFORE AND WE THOUGHT WE HAD A CONTACT AND MOVED IT BACK TO A YEAR. AND THEN HAD TO COME BACK WITH A NEW RFP. AND EVERY DELAY IS GOING ON CLOSER AND CLOSER TO MAY. AND LIKE MS. STEVENSON SAID, NO BANK IS GOING TO BE FORCED TO TELL YOU WHAT WE ARE GOING TO BID AT BECAUSE WE HAVE DIFFERENT INDEXES AND MARGINS IN DIFFERENT WAYS TO PRICE. WE ARE NO DIFFERENT THAN ANYBODY ELSE SAY I WANT THE SAME THING FROM ANYBODY. WE DON'T DO THE SAME THING AND THAT IS WHAT MAKES US DIFFERENT AND WHAT YOU VOTE ON. YOU SAY YOU WANT APPLES TO APPLES AND EVERYBODY TO COME IN AND SAY THIS INDEX AND THIS MARGIN OR THIS INDEX AND MARGIN NOT GOING TO WORK NOBODY'S GOING TO DO THAT. THEY WILL GIVE YOU WHAT THEY DO AND THAT IS HOW IT IS GOING TO WORK. AND LIKE I SAID FOR FIRST COURT CITY IN OURSELVES EVERY OTHER BANK NOW HAS THE KNOWLEDGE OF WHAT WE WOULD DO. I WANTED TO GIVE CONSIDERATION GIVEN TO THAT. LIKE I SAID THE TWO PARTIES THAT ARE IN HERE NOW YOU ARE DOING US A DISSERVICE. >> MAYOR ANTUM: THANK YOU MR. WEAVER. I SEE NO ADDITIONAL DISCUSSION FROM THE COMMISSION [8.1 HISTORIC DISTRICT COUNCIL — One appointment (Robert Sala)] MS. CAMPBELL ANYTHING ELSE YOU WANT TO BUTTON UP? >> NO SIR I HAVE YOUR COMMENTS AND I WILL DRAFT A NEW RFP. >> MAYOR ANTUM: ITEM 8, BOARD APPOINTMENTS THE ONLY ITEM FOR HISTORIC DISTRICT APPOINTMENT. DO I HAVE AN MOTION? >> I MOVED TO APPROVE ROBERT BALLARD (PHONETIC). >> MAYOR ANTUM: ANY DISCUSSION? [01:10:10] >> I WANT TO THANK PEOPLE FOR SERVING ON OUR BOARDS. [9. CITY MANAGER REPORTS] >> MAYOR ANTUM: SEEING NONE START THE VOTE. SECTION 9, CITY MANAGER REPORTS. >> I WANT TO GIVE YOU NOTED ON THE ROLLING OUT A PAID PARKING PROGRAM. COMMUNICATION IS REACHING FAR AND WIDE AT THIS POINT. WE HAD OVER 10,000 EMAILS SENT OUT TO CITY RESIDENTS. WE CAN SEE THE OPEN RATE AND THE BOUNCE RATE ON THE EMAIL SO WE KNOW THAT OVER 50% OF THOSE HAVE BEEN OPENED. THAT HAS BEEN VERY HELPFUL. THE FLYERS HAVE GONE OUT IN THE FEBRUARY UTILITY BILLS. WE WILL HAVE AN AD IN TOMORROW'S NEWS LEADER. AND WE HAVE RACK CARDS AVAILABLE IN THE BACK OF THE ROOM. THOSE WILL BE DISTRIBUTED THROUGHOUT THE CITY FOR PEOPLE WHO HAVE QUESTIONS. BUT OUR STAFF HAS DONE AN AMAZING WORK THIS WEEK HELPING CSTOMERS, WALKING THEM THROUGH THE PROCESS HERE IN THIS CHAMBER, MARY HAMBER AND KITTY NEWTON AND EVERYBODY IN THE CLERK'S OFFICE, CLERK BEST HAS BEEN HELPING PEOPLE. AT 3 O'CLOCK THIS AFTERNOON 1493 APPLICATIONS FOR CITY PERMITS HAVE BEEN RECEIVED. THEY HAVE APPROVED OVER 400 OF THOSE. SO WE ARE REALLY RAMPING UP NOW AND HELPFUL TO THOSE CITIZENS WHO ARE GETTING REGISTERED EARLY IT IS CONFUSING MAINLY FOR PEOPLE WHO DON'T LIVE IN THE CITY BUT HAVE A FERNANDINA BEACH ADDRESS. THE REJECTION DATE ON THOSE APPLICATIONS IS UP TO 20% WILL PROVIDE A RESPONSE EMAIL AS TO WHY THEIR APPLICATION WAS REJECTED AND GIVING THEM THE LINK TO APPLY FOR THE NONRESIDENT PERMIT. BUT WE REALLY RELY ON THE PROPERTY APPRAISER'S WEBSITE SIMPLE TO INPUT THE ADDRESS AND POPS UP TELLS YOU WHETHER YOU ARE IN NASSAU COUNTY OR FERNANDINA BEACH. AND YOU CAN VOTE WHETHER CITY COMMISSIONERS AND THOSE TYPES OF THINGS AND WE ARE TRYING TO HELP PEOPLE NAVIGATE THOSE ISSUES AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE. WE STARTED ON THE DEMOLITION OF ATLANTIC SEAFOOD. TODAY OUR CONTRACTOR GOT TO WORK RIGHT ABOUT NOON TODAY AND IT HAS BEEN WELL DOCUMENTED. MEMENTOS TO THE MUSEUM THEY'RE GOING TO BUILD A DISPLAY OF SORTS TO COMMEMORATE THE HISTORY OF THE ATLANTIC SEAFOOD STRUCTURE AND WE ARE MEETING WITH STAFF NEXT WEEK TO TALK ABOUT THE NORTH END OTHER WATERFRONT PARK AND HOW THAT AREA GETS INCLUDED IN THE BLUEPRINT OF THE PARK. THAT IS ALL I HAVE UNLESS YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR ME. >> MAYOR ANTUM: ANY QUESTIONS FOR MS. CAMPBELL? >> CAN WE PUT THE YELLOW FLYER UP? HOW HARD WOULD THAT BE? FOR THE PUBLIC INFORMATION ANOTHER FLYER WAS CREATED BECAUSE NEXT WEEK-- IS IT THE BENDER WHO WILL BE HERE? >> THE BENDER ARRIVES IN TOWN ON THE NINTH AND WILL START HAVE OFFICE HOURS. >> WILL THAT HAPPENED HERE? >> HERE. >> MY UNDERSTANDING THAT MOST COMPUTERS WILL BE OPEN IF PEOPLE WANT TO COMMENT. >> I THINK MARY HAS BEEN DOING IT FROM ONE MACHINE BUT WE WILL HAVE MULTIPLE MACHINES AVAILABLE. >> JUST AS A POINT OF INFORMATION, I REGISTERED. AND HAD A LITTLE BIT OF HICCUP. NOT SUPER EASY. SUPER EASY BUT NOT SUPER EASY. IT IS ACTUALLY HARDER FOR A RESIDENT TO REGISTER BECAUSE WE NEED TO UPLOAD OUR DRIVER'S LICENSES AND VEHICLE REGISTRATION BECAUSE WE NEED TO PROVE OUR RESIDENCY. AND MORE IMPORTANTLY, PEOPLE WHO ACTUALLY LIVE IN THE SECTOR, THEY HAVE AN UNLIMITED AMOUNT OF TIME THEY CAN PARK. AND SO THEY HAVE TO PROVE THAT THEY LIVE IN THE SECTOR AND DESERVE UNLIMITED PARKING. PEOPLE WHO WANT TO BUY-- BECAUSE RESIDENTS GET TWO FREE PASSES-- PEOPLE WHO WANT TO BUY A PERMIT IT IS EXTREMELY EASY. EASY PASS DOES NOT CARE WHERE YOU LIVE, THE JUST WANT YOUR LICENSE PLATE AND YOUR CREDIT CARD AND THAT IS ALL THIS NEEDS. HAD THE BOTTOM THERE, NEXT WEEK AT CITY HALL, A VERY WIDE RANGE OF HOURS IF YOU WANT TO COME IN [01:15:01] AND DO IT IN PERSON BRING YOUR DRIVERS LICENSE REGISTRATION. I WAS ABLE TO DO IT AT HOME AND TOOK A PICTURE OF MY DRIVERS LICENSE AND REGISTRATION AND UPLOAD YOUR PICTURE THANKFULLY THE WEBSITE ALLOWS YOU TO UPLOAD YOUR REGISTRATION. >> YOU COULD DO IT ON YOUR PHONE. >> THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN EASIER. TO YOUR POINT BECAUSE SOMEONE ASKED ME TODAY WHY DO RESIDENTS HAVE TO PUT IN OUR DRIVER LICENSE AND REGISTRATION? ARE WE AFRAID OF FRAUD? YES NONE OF US WANT FRAUD PERPETRATED IN OUR CITY WE WANT THE LAWS OF HELL BUT MORE IMPORTANTLY AN ENORMOUS NUMBER OF PEOPLE DON'T REALIZE THEY DON'T LIVE IN THE CITY. AND TO THEIR -- I DON'T FAULT THEM-- IF YOU EVER LOOKED AT THE CITY MAP, IT'S THE INTERTWININGS OF THE CITY ESPECIALLY IN THE MIDDLE, IN THE FACT THAT THE POST OFFICE ASSIGNS FERNANDINA BEACH 32034 ALL THE WAY OUT TO THE SUPER WALMART SO PEOPLE DO NOT REALIZE THEY DON'T LIVE IN THE CITY, THEY PAY CITY TAXES AND THEY DON'T VOTE FOR CITY COMMISSIONERS. WHEN PEOPLE GET [10. CITY CLERK REPORTS] THE SAMPLE BALLOT THEY CALL, WHY AREN'T CITY COMMISSIONERS ON MY BALLOT BALLOT BECAUSE THE DON'T LIVE IN THE CITY. >> MOVING ON TO THE CLERK'S REPORT. >> ... THE CITY COMMISSION GOAL SETTING AND VISION WORKSHOP IS NEXT THURSDA AT THE FERNANDINA BEACH GOLF CLUB 9 AM TO 2 PM ON FEBRUARY 12. THANK YOU. [11. CITY ATTORNEY REPORTS] >> MAYOR ANTUM: ANY QUESTIONS FOR MS. BEST? SEEING NONE MOVING ON TO THE ATTORNEY REPORT. >> FOR CLARIFICATION ON THE RYAN VS. CITYH OF FERNANDINA BEACH MATTER. I WAS NOT AWARE IT WAS GOING TO A HEARING AND ONCE I WAS NOT AFFORDED THE OPPORTUNITY TO REVIEW THE MOTION. VERY UNUSUAL FOR ANY OF THE OUTSIDE COUNSEL TO NOT SEND ME THAT MOTION MADE ME AWARE THAT IT WAS IT - CANCELED BUT AGAIN IT WASN'T TIMELY ENOUGH TO GET IT OUT TO ALL THE CITIZENS. MANAGER CAMPBELL AND CLERK BEST HAD NO KNOWLEDGE OF WHAT WAS GOING ON. THAT WOULD GO THROUGH MY OFFICE. AND YET LASTLY, AS YOU ARE ALWAYS AWARE BECAUSE WE ARE ON LITIGATION, I ADVISE YOU NOT TO DISCUSS THESE MATTERS WE DO RESPECTFULLY DISAGREE WITH THE OPINIONS THAT WE HAVE PUT THE CITY ON ANY KIND OF DISADVANTAGE THAT WAS NOT THE INTENTION OF MY OFFICE SO THE GOAL OF THE INTENTION OF ANY OF OUR OUTSIDE COUNSEL. WITH EVERYTHING ELSE ADDRESSED EARLIER THIS EVENING. THE OTHER MATTER I HAVE IS THE RECALL HAS BEEN MENTIONED THERE WILL BE COVERAGE AFFORDED BY THE CITY'S INSURANCE CARRIER. THE DETERMINATION WAS MADE TODAY UNDER FLORIDA LAW AND UNDER FLORIDA SUPREME COURT CASES IT HAS BEEN DETERMINED THAT A CITY COMMISSIONER IS SUBJECT TO RECALL AS LONG AS IT ARISES BECAUSE OF THE PERFORMANCE OF THE DUTY. THEY ARE TO BE AFFORDED COVERAGE FOR SUCH RECALL FOR DEFENSE AND IN THIS SITUATION WHERE THE INSURANCE CARRIER PICKS IT UP THERE WILL BE NO COST TO THE CITY. THERE IS NOT A DEDUCTIBLE FOR THIS AND RIGHT NOW WE HAVE RECEIVED AN INITIAL COVER DETERMINATION WITH A RESERVATION OF RIGHTS, AND I HAVE SPOKEN WITH THE ADJUSTER AND THEY HAVE APPOINTED VARIOUS OPTIONS FOR COUNSEL. AND AGAIN THE SUPREME COURT CASES THAT I RESEARCHED-- I WAS GOING TO BRING IT TO YOU ANYWAY-- ANY COMMISSIONER THAT IS SUBJECT TO RECALL OR AN ETHICS COMPLAINT DOES DESERVE A DEFENSE AS LONG AS IT IS WITHIN THE PERFORMANCE OF THEIR DUTIES. [01:20:02] AND I WILL BRING IT FORWARD TO YOU ON 2/17, FEBRUARY 17, THE NEXT MEETING FOR THE TWO RESOLUTIONS TO APPOINT AND TO APPROVE INSURANCE DEFENSE ON THIS MATTER. IN THIS SITUATION YOU HAVE TO MAKE A FINDING THAT THE COMMISSIONER -- THE CHARGES OR THE ALLEGATIONS AGAINST THE COMMISSIONERS ARE SUCH THAT IT AROSE OUT OF OR IN CONNECTION WITH THE PERFORMANCE OF THEIR DUTIES AND BASED ON MY REVIEW OF THE PETITIONS I DO BELIEVE THAT HAS BEEN MET. AND THE PUBLIC PURPOSE THAT IS SERVED IS THAT IT WILL ENSURE THAT IT IS VALIDLY SUFFICIENT ON ITS FACE. AND IT DOES NOT HAVE A CHILLING EFFECT. THAT WAS MENTIONED THIS EVENING UNDER THE COMMENTS BUT IT IS A QUOTE FROM A FLORIDA SUPREME COURT CASE. THE REASON YOU WOULD BE AFFORDED DEFENSE COVERAGE IN THE SITUATION IS, "IT ALLOWS YOU TO AVOID THE CHILLING EFFECT THAT A DENIAL OF REPRESENTATION MIGHT HAVE ON PUBLIC OFFICIALS IN PERFORMING THEIR DUTIES PROPERLY AND DILIGENTLY." IT WAS A COINCIDENCE THAT WAS MENTIONED EARLIER. THAT IS FROM A FLORIDA SUPREME COURT CASE. IT WILL BE ON YOUR FEBRUARY 17 AGENDA, THE TWO DIFFERENT RESOLUTIONS. I DID OBTAIN A QUOTE FROM VICE SERROTA WHO WANT TO GET AN OUTSIDE OF BEING AN ESTIMATE OF FIVE HOURS. MY OPINION WILL BE IN THE RESOLUTIONS THAT THE COMMISSIONERS ARE ENTITLED TO A DEFENSE IN THIS RECALL PETITION. AND IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO GET ME OUTSIDE REVIEW OF THAT OPINION I WOULD CERTAINLY DO THAT AND I WILL ANSWER ANY QUIZZES YOU MAY HAVE. >> MAYOR ANTUM: THANK YOU MS. [12. MAYOR/COMMISSIONER COMMENTS] PRINCE, I AM OF THE OPINION THAT WE DO NOT NEED AN OUTSIDE OPINION TO CLARIFY YOUR OPINION. MOVING RIGHT ALONG WE WILL GO INTO THE MAYOR AND COMMISSIONER COMMENTS. LADIES FIRST. COMMISSIONER TUTEN? >> COMMISSIONER TUTEN: SORRY I HAVE A LOT AND I WILL BE FAST. FIRST I HAD THE PLEASURE OF OBTAINING LAST-MINUTE TICKETS FROM SOMEBODY WHO DID NOT NEED THE TICKETS TO ATTEND STRING SONGS FESTIVAL STORIES AND SONGS. I WENT TO THE -- ISLAND WHERE THE WILD THINGS ARE, AND PAT FOSTERED A TURTLE -- AND MAYBE ANOTHER BIOLOGIST ON CARNIVAL ISLAND. SHE WAS THERE AND IT WAS PRETTY EXCITING. SHE WAS AMAZING. THE WHOLE THING WAS AMAZING AND IT PROVIDED A GOOD REMINDER I AM OFFERING THIS. TO THE PUBLIC CUMBERLAND ISLAND RIGHT NOW HAS A NEW VISITOR USE MANAGEMENT PLAN THAT THEY ARE PROPOSING WHICH WILL DOUBLE THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE GOING TO THE ISLAND AND WILL ALLOW BIKES AND E-BIKES ON THE ENTIRE LENGTH OF THE BEACH. THERE IS A COMMENT PERIOD TO THE NATIONAL PARK SERVICE THAT IS OPEN. I WOULD ENCOURAGE ALL THE WILD NATURE LOVERS ON AMELIA ISLAND TO COME AND PROTECT CUMBERLAND ISLAND. THE SOUTH IS PROTECTED IF THEY WERE FULL OF PEOPLE THE NUMBER OF VERSE WE WOULD SEE WOULD BE DRAMATICALLY REDUCED ESPECIALLY OUR BELOVED PELICANS. PELICANS ARE VERY UNUSUAL BIRDS THAT CANNOT REST ON MOST BEACHES. YOU DON'T WALK ALONG THE BEACH AND SEE A PELICAN SITTING AROUND BECAUSE THEY ARE SUCH HEAVY BODIED BIRDS, THEY CANNOT SAFELY REST SO CLOSE TO A DUEN WITH SOMETHING COULD COME AND EAT THEM. THE ONLY REST ON FAR OUT ISOLATED POINT IN IF WE WANT TO CONTINUE TO SEE 22 PELICANS SOAR BY, WE NEED CUMBERLAND ISLAND PROTECTED FROM E-BIKES. THAT IS MY PLUG FOR THE BIRDS. YOU MENTIONED GOLF? THE GOLF CLUB IS HAVING THE GOLF FUNDRAISING. I DON'T HAVE THE DATES. DOES ANYBODY KNOW THEM? THE 21ST? COULD BE ON THE BADGES. THE [01:25:08] 21ST. THIS FRIDAY IS DOWNTOWN-- MAINSTREAM HAS THEIR SI PAND SHOP, FROM 4 TO 7. I WILL LEAVE IT AT THAT. >> THE ONLY PROBLEM W I WILL LEAVE ITTH WITH PAID PARKING WAS GOING OUT TO 20 DEGREE WEATHER. TODAY IS THE 25ST ANNIVERSARY OF THE EXPLOSION IN GEORGIA. THIS YEAR I WENT WITH FIRE CHIEF HOLMES. ALWAYS A VERY INTERESTING AND MOVING EVENT TO ATTEND. OF THE 30 PEOPLE, 24 WERE WOMEN FROM NASSAU COUNTY. THAT GROUP UP THERE HAS BEEN WORKING HARD. THEY ARE DOING A COUPLE OF THINGS WHICH IS INTERESTING. WORKING WITH CONGRESS TRYING TO GET THE 30 PEOPLE KILLED IN THAT EXPLOSION CONGRESSIONAL MEDALS OF HONOR. YOU CAN SEE IT ON YOUTUBE, AN EMMY-AWARD WINNING DOCUMENTARY, THE DAY GEORGIA SHOOK. FOR THOSE WHO DO NOT KNOW, -- WAS ORIGINALLY BUILDING ENGINES FOR THE SPACE PROGRAM AND THEY STOPPED. IN THE MIDDLE OF THE VIETNAME WAR. THEYSTARTED BUILDING AMMUNITION. THERE WAS AN EXPLOSION THAT KILLED 30 PEOPLE AND WOUNDED 150. YOU COULD HEAR AN DFEEL THE EXPLOSTION FOR 11 MILES. YOU CAN IMAGINE WHAT AN AMMUNITIONS FIRE AND EXPLOSION WOULD FEEL LIKE. IT WAS HORRIFIC. THEY WERE ALL AFRICAN-AMERICAN, NOT WELL TRAINED OR EDUCATED. IN 1971. IT WAS AN HONOR TO REPRESENT THE CITY. >> MAYOR ANTUM: COMMISSIONER POYNTER? >> COMMISSIONER POYNTER: I WANT TO THANK THE PEOPLE WHO CAME TO MY TOWN HALL AND A SHOUT OUT TO -- WHO OWNS A BOAT HOUSE HE WAS UNAWARE THEY WERE USING HIS FACILITY TO HAVE A RECALL PETITION. HE CALLED TO LET ME KNOW HE DID NOT KNOW THAT. HE TALKED TO THE ORGANIZERS, "NOT ON MY PROPERTY." NOT IN FAVOR OF PAID PARKING BUT IN FAVOR OF THE RECALL. >> MAYOR ANTUM: THANK YOU FOR THE INVITE TO THE FERNANDINA BEACH AWARDS DINNER WHICH I BRIEFLY ATTENDED UNTIL MY TODDLER -- I WANT TO THANK THE WATER DIVISION, RESPONDING TO 75 CALLS AND MONDAY MORNING MY OFFICE WAS ONE OF THE. THANK YOU FOR COALITION FOR THE HOMELESS FOR STAYING ALL NIGHT AT THE REC CENTER AND MAKE SUE [01:30:05] YOU ATTEND THE MONTESSORI COOK-OFF -- AND PARKING REGISTATION ALSO VISIT... PARKING FOR MORE INFORMATION. * This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.