[1. CALL TO ORDER]
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>> WELCOME TO THE WATERFRONT ADVISORY BOARD REGULAR MEETING, JANUARY 26TH. WE'LL DO THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE.
>> MEMBERS NICKOLOFF, PURKO, AND SHARPE ARE ABSENT TONIGHT.
>> MOVING TO THE APPROVAL OF MINUTES.
[4. APPROVAL OF MINUTES]
I HAD A FEW ITEMS. IT SAID THE MARINA ADVISORY BOARD TEMPLATE ON TOP OF THE MINUTES, AND THEN MY NAME WAS SPELLED WRONG. THAT'S ALL.>> GOT IT. MADAM CHAIR, I MOVE THE APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES AS AMENDED.
[5. PUBLIC COMMENT REGARDING ITEMS NOT ON THE AGENDA]
>> THAT PUBLIC COMMENT REGARDING ITEMS NOT ON THE AGENDA.
MS. CHRISTNER, YOU WANT TO COME UP?
>> SURE. GOOD EVENING, WATERFRONT ADVISORY COMMITTEE.
I WANTED TO THANK YOU FOR YOUR VERY THOUGHTFUL DISCUSSION THAT YOU HAD ABOUT DOCK ACCESS FOR THE PUBLIC ON DOCK C AT THE LAST MEETING.
AS YOU PROBABLY REMEMBER, AFTER THAT DISCUSSION, STAFF SAID THAT WHAT THEY WOULD DO IS ADD IT TO THE AGENDA FOR THE NEXT WATERFRONT ADVISORY COMMITTEE MEETING, AND THEN ALSO DO SOME HOMEWORK AND HAVE A PRESENTATION FOR YOU.
I THINK IT MIGHT BE MENTIONED UNDER SOMETHING ELSE, BUT THERE'S NO ATTACHMENTS IN THE AGENDA PACKET.
I'M ALSO GOING TO SPEAK IF THERE IS A PRESENTATION SOMEPLACE IN THE AGENDA, ABOUT IT AFTERWARDS, AND I'LL JUST TRY TO COME UP WITH A RESPONSE.
BUT I WANTED TO TALK ABOUT THE IMPORTANCE OF PUBLIC ACCESS TO DOCK C. IT'S BEEN A TRADITION IN THE CITY OF FERNANDINA BEACH THAT ANYONE, A TOURIST, A CITIZEN, COULD WALK DOWN THAT DOCK, AND ENJOY THE WATERFRONT.
TO ME, IT'S THE BEST ACCESS TO THE WATERFRONT IN THE CITY.
RIGHT NOW, BECAUSE IT'S LIMITED TO BOAT OWNERS ONLY, AND LET'S FACE IT, SMALL BOATS DON'T GET TO GO TO DOCK C. IT'S REALLY LIMITED TO PEOPLE WHO OWN LARGE BOATS.
PUBLIC ACCESS HAS EFFECTIVELY BEEN CUT OFF UNLESS YOU'RE ABLE TO AFFORD A VERY LARGE BOAT, AND THE PUBLIC DOES PAY FOR THAT DOCK.
JUST TO GIVE YOU AN ANALOGY, I LIVE OVER ON BEACH STREET BETWEEN 4TH AND 5TH, AND I WOULD LOVE IT IF THEY CUT OFF PUBLIC ACCESS TO MY STREET.
EVERY MONDAY MORNING, I GO OUT, MY FRONT YARD HAS BECOME THE HUB FOR EVERY CIGARETTE BUTT ON THE ISLAND.
I PICK UP SODA CANS, I PICK UP BEER BOTTLES.
PEOPLE HAVE A GOOD TIME IN THE CITY OF FERNANDINA BEACH, AND THEY COME.
THEY'LL MAKE NOISE IN MY FRONT YARD, THEY'LL THROW GARBAGE IN MY FRONT YARD.
BUT IT WOULD BE UNREALISTIC TO ASK THE COMMUNITY NOT TO BE ABLE TO USE BEACH STREET ANYMORE BECAUSE IT'S INCONVENIENT OR LOUD FOR ME.
THERE'S JUST SOME EXPECTATIONS IF YOU'RE IN DOWNTOWN FERNANDINA.
IF SOMEBODY WANTS TO BE AT A MARINA AND NOT HAVE PEOPLE BOTHER THEM, THEY HAVE TWO VERY NICE OTHER MARINAS ON THIS ISLAND THAT THEY CAN GO TO WHERE THEY CAN GET SOME PRIVACY.
I'VE SPOKEN TO SO MANY COMMUNITY MEMBERS WHO'VE WALKED DOWN THERE, HAVE SEEN THE SIGN THAT SAID BOAT OWNERS ONLY, TURNED AROUND AND LEFT BECAUSE THEY JUST SAID, "HEY, MY ACCESS HAS BEEN CUT OFF," AND THEY'RE VERY POLITE PEOPLE.
I THINK IT WAS DONE BACKWARDS, TOO.
THERE WAS THE JULY 4TH INCIDENT.
BUT NOW THERE'S A SIGN UP THERE THAT SAYS SINGLE FILE ONLY ON THE RAMP.
AS YOU REMEMBER, WE HAD AN EXTREMELY UNFORTUNATE ACCIDENT HERE WITH BEACH DRIVING A COUPLE OF YEARS BACK, WHERE A GENTLEMAN DROVE OVER A WOMAN WHO WAS SUNBATHING AND REALLY, REALLY INJURED HER.
NOW, WOULD THE RESPONSE HAVE BEEN TO PUT UP SIGNS EVERYWHERE, NO MORE BEACH DRIVING, WITHOUT A DISCUSSION? THAT WASN'T DONE.
THERE WAS A FULL PUBLIC DISCUSSION, AND IT WAS DECIDED IT WAS IMPORTANT TO KEEP COMMUNITY ACCESS FOR DRIVING ON THE BEACH, REGARDLESS OF SOME OF THE RISKS.
I ASK YOU TO STRONGLY CONSIDER THIS.
ONCE THAT EXCESS IS TAKEN AWAY, IT'S NEVER GOING TO COME BACK.
WE ALL KNOW THAT. IT WILL NEVER COME BACK.
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IT'S VERY UNFORTUNATE, PEOPLE ARE EXTREMELY UPSET IN THIS COMMUNITY.IT NEEDS TO GO TO THE CITY COMMISSION FOR A PUBLIC DISCUSSION.
THANK YOU SO MUCH. I REALLY APPRECIATE YOUR TIME.
>> CAN I ASK ONE QUESTION TO YOU?
>> WHAT'S THE LATEST YOU LIKE TO WALK DOWN ON THAT DOCK?
>> I USED TO WALK DOWN ON THAT DOCK AT NIGHT, BUT I DO UNDERSTAND THAT PEOPLE ARE TRYING TO SLEEP, AND SO I'M FINE WITH THE FACT THAT THE GATE IS CLOSED FROM DUSK TILL DAWN.
THAT'S ANOTHER THING, THAT JULY 4TH INCIDENT, THAT GATE SHOULD HAVE BEEN SHUT.
>> THE SUNSET, YOU'D LIKE TO SEE.
YOU DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH BEING CLOSED [OVERLAPPING] IF THEY'RE DOWN THAT DOCK, SAVE LIGHT.
>> I PERSONALLY DON'T LIKE IT, BUT I'M WILLING TO FOREGO THAT.
>> YOU CAN SPEAK, BUT THANK YOU SO MUCH.
>> WOULD ANYONE ELSE LIKE TO SPEAK?
>> GOOD AFTERNOON. MARTY SEAWALLS, 502 BROOM STREET.
I JUST LIKE TO SAY, I AGREE WITH THAT 100%.
WE ENJOYED GOING THERE AND WALKING IN THE AFTERNOON FOR SUNSET.
I KNOW I HAVE, AGGIE'S DONE IT HER ENTIRE LIFE, HER FAMILY, HER PARENTS, HER GRANDPARENTS, EVERYBODY HAS HAD ACCESS HERE.
WE REALLY LIKE TO HAVE IT IN THE SUNSET TIMES.
AS FAR AS ACCESS FOR BOATS, THAT'S A GREAT EXAMPLE WITH THE SIDEWALK.
THE SIDEWALK AT OUR HOUSE IS 12 FEET FROM OUR FRONT PORCH, AND SO I KNOW THERE'S BEEN TALK OF THEFT, SECURITY ISSUES, PRIVACY, ETC.
PEOPLE CAN WALK ONTO OUR PORCH AND TAKE THINGS.
PEOPLE COME AND THEY SIT ON OUR PORCH.
I UNDERSTAND THAT, BUT THAT DOESN'T MEAN I WANT THE CITY TO BLOCK THAT SIDEWALK.
WHEN THAT BECOMES A GATED COMMUNITY, THEN WE NEED TO QUESTION WHETHER OUR TAX DOLLARS SHOULD BE HELPING TO SUPPORT IT, BECAUSE WE SHOULDN'T BE PROVIDING TAX MONEY FOR A PRIVATE GATED COMMUNITY. THANK YOU.
>> WOULD ANYONE LIKE TO SPEAK? QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT? IS IT ON THE AGENDA? REPRESENTATION, SPECIFICALLY?
>> WE CAN BRING IT BACK UP WITH THE MARINA MANAGEMENT REPORT, CORRECT? 2R DATE 1.
>> WE'VE GOT A PROJECT MANAGER UPDATE, MR. GLEN.
[6.1 PROJECT MANAGER UPDATES.]
>> JEREMIAH IS GOING TO KICK US OFF.
>> HEY, GOOD EVENING. JEREMIAH GLISSON, DEPUTY CITY MANAGER. PROJECT UPDATE.
SURE. GLEN'S GOING TO JUMP IN AFTER I'M WITH UPDATE ON WITH THE PASS ROAD TEAM AS IT RELATES TO THE DEMOLITION AND REDEVELOPMENT OF BRETT'S.
BUT JUST IN, WE DID RECEIVE THE PERMIT FROM THE US ARMY CORPS OF ENGINEERS FOR THE DEMOLITION OF ATLANTIC SEAFOOD.
WE'LL BE MOVING QUICKLY WITH THE DEMOLITION OF THAT STRUCTURE.
WE'VE ALREADY RECEIVED HTC APPROVAL.
YOU ALL HAVE BEEN APPRISED OF THE CONDITION REPORT THAT WE RECEIVED FROM ENGINEERING FIRM AND THEN THE BUILDING OFFICIAL PUTTING IN THE DEMOLITION NOTICE.
NOW THAT WE HAVE THAT PERMIT FROM THE CORP, WE'VE WORKED ON SOME VENDORS.
WE DID A WALK THROUGH OF THE PROJECT WITH A CONTRACTOR ON FRIDAY.
HE'S WORKING ON UPDATING SOME INSURANCE AND SOME OTHER THINGS, BUT THE GOAL IS TO HAVE THAT BUILDING DOWN THE FIRST WEEK OF FEBRUARY.
IF EVERYTHING GETS LINED UP THIS WEEK, WE'LL PUSH OUT SOME COMMUNICATION, SOME INFORMATION ON THAT TO APPRISE EVERYONE THAT IT WILL HAPPEN.
YOU'RE GOING TO SHUT DOWN THE BOAT RAMP TO DO THAT, LOOKING AT ABOUT A THREE-DAY CLOSURE OF THE BOAT RAMP, 3-4 DAYS BECAUSE THE CONTRACTOR HAS TO WORK FROM THE NORTH SIDE OF THE FACILITY.
PART OF OUR PROMISE TO THE HTC IS THAT WE WOULD COORDINATE THE DEMOLITION WITH THE MUSEUM SO THEY CAN DOCUMENT THE DEMOLITION OF THAT STRUCTURE.
WHILE NOT A CONTRIBUTING STRUCTURE, IT DOES HAVE A HISTORIC VALUE HERE IN OUR COMMUNITY.
ONCE AGAIN, IF EVERYTHING LINES UP HERE IN THE NEXT COUPLE OF DAYS, WE'LL BE COMMUNICATING THAT EFFORT HERE TOWARD THE END OF THE WEEK AND THEN DEMOLITION THE FOLLOWING WEEK.
THAT'S WHAT I HAVE ON THAT. WE'RE ALSO WORKING WITH THOMAS AND HUTTON ON THE ENGINEER THAT DID THE WATERFRONT PARK ON THIS AREA.
THEY'RE WORKING ON CONCEPTS OF DEVELOPING THIS AREA NOW THAT THIS BUILDING WILL BE COMING DOWN, SO YOU HAVE A MORE SEAMLESS TRANSITION FROM THE BOAT RAMP AREA TO THE WATERFRONT PARK, BECAUSE THE CURRENT WATERFRONT PARK IS A CARVE OUT OF OF THAT PARCEL.
AT THE TIME WHEN WE BEGAN THE WATERFRONT PARK, THE ATLANTIC SEAFOOD WAS AN EXISTING LEASE THROUGH 2028.
WHEN THAT LEASE TERMINATED PREMATURELY, IT OPENED THIS UP FOR DEVELOPMENT
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OF THE PARK THERE AND ALSO A CONTINUATION OF THE SEAWALL.THE SEAWALL TERMINATES RIGHT THERE JUST SOUTH OF ATLANTIC SEAFOOD.
BOTH THOSE THINGS WILL COINCIDE TOGETHER.
ANY QUESTIONS ON ATLANTIC SEAFOOD? IF NOT, I'LL PUNT TO GLENN.
>> HOW WILL WE KNOW WHEN THE DATE IS WHERE THE BOAT RAMP IS CLOSED SO TELL US ABOUT THAT.
>> WE'LL PUSH EVERYTHING OUT HERE, IS BY THE END OF THE WEEK.
IF IT'S GOING TO HAPPEN NEXT WEEK, WE'LL DEFINITELY HAVE IT OUT BEFORE THE WEEKEND.
>> HOW? WE'LL GET SOMEONE'S FINE.
>> ABSOLUTELY. IT'LL BE ON SOCIAL MEDIA, WE'LL SEND TO THE MARINA, WE'LL PUT SIGNAGE UP BEFOREHAND BECAUSE WE'LL HAVE TO CLOSE EARLY MONDAY MORNING BEFORE PEOPLE START USING IT.
LAST THING WE DO IS CLOSE IT, AND THEN SOMEONE'S TRYING TO GET THEIR BOAT OUT OF THE WATER.
IF IT DOES CLOSE MONDAY, WE'LL HAVE BARRICADES AND SIGNAGE OUT, LETTING EVERYONE KNOW OF THE CLOSURE, AND WE'LL PUSH THE STUFF OUT THROUGH SOCIAL MEDIA AS WELL, LET THE MARINA MANAGER KNOW AND DO EVERYTHING WE CAN TO GET THAT WORD OUT PRIOR TO THE CLOSURE MONDAY MORNING.
>> WHAT'S THE PLAN? WHEN YOU TEAR THAT DOWN, WHAT'S GOING THERE? WHAT'S THE PLAN AFTER THE FACT?
>> THOMAS AND HUTTON RIGHT NOW IS WORKING ON THE DESIGN OF INCORPORATING THAT INTO THE WATERFRONT PARK.
IT'S GOING TO BE LOW LEVEL, WHATEVER IT IS, BECAUSE YOU HAVE EVENTUAL BOAT RAMP REHAB THAT NEEDS TO OCCUR.
YOU HAVE THE CONTINUATION, THAT 40, 50 FOOT OF SEAWALL RIGHT THERE TO THE BOAT RAMP, SO YOU DON'T WANT ANY STRUCTURES THERE, YOU DON'T WANT ANYTHING THAT YOU HAVE TO GET THROUGH TO DO THOSE FUTURE REPAIRS.
THAT'S PROBABLY A COUPLE OF YEARS OUT OR SO.
IT'S GOING TO BE LOW COST, LOW MAINTENANCE TIE INTO THE SOUTHERN PORTION OF WATERFRONT PARK.
TAKING THE CONSIDERATION THAT IT IS A WORKING BOAT RAMP.
IT'S A WORKING MARINA, AND IT NEEDS TO FIT, TURN THE RADIUS, EVERYTHING, WITH PEOPLE THAT WILL BE PULLING IN AND OUT OF THAT BOAT RAMP.
THAT'S SOMETHING THAT THEY'RE WORKING ON.
>> I DEFINITELY DON'T WANT TO PAUSE IT AT ALL.
I'M REALLY EXCITED, AND I'M SO HAPPY THAT ALL OF THIS IS GETTING DONE.
BUT I JUST FELT LIKE WE WERE SO HANDS ON WITH THE OTHER ONE, SO IT'S HARD FOR ME TO NOT, LIKE YOU, WANT TO KNOW WHAT'S GOING THERE, AND IT'S RIGHT THERE IN THE VISIBILITY CORRIDOR COMING DOWN ASH.
IS IT GOING TO BE LIKE BRETT'S, WHERE THEY'RE GOING TO GIVE US THREE OPTIONS OR JUST TIED IN WITH LANDSCAPING?
>> I'M SURE. THEY'LL BRING SOME CONCEPTS TO YOU HERE AS SOON AS WE GET SOMETHING WE'RE SHOWING TO YOU AND HTC AS WELL DEFINITELY BRINGING YOU A CONCEPT OF WHAT THEY'RE PROPOSING THERE FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION FEEDBACK. ABSOLUTELY.
>> ABOUT THE DRAINAGE PIPE ON IT THERE.
>> THE AREA 6 DRAINAGE PROJECT?
>> GLENN, WERE YOU GOING TO TALK ON THAT ONE?
>> THAT'S BEING TAKEN INTO CONSIDERATION BECAUSE THAT PROJECT STARTS HERE REAL SOON.
THE STORM DRAINAGE SYSTEM HERE ALONG ASH STREET.
>> YEAH. RUNS RIGHT UNDERNEATH THE LAKE SEAFOOD.
>> ARE YOU GOING TO BE ABLE TO EXTEND FROM THE SEA WALL TO THE BOAT RAMP UNDER THAT CORP PERMIT? JUST THE DEMO.
THE ONE THAT WE HAVE IS, AND THAT'S WHAT TOOK A WHILE FOR ATLANTIC SEAFOOD.
BECAUSE IT GOT HUNG UP WITH TWO OTHER PERMITS THAT ARE ON REVIEW.
THE CORP IS LIKE, WAIT, FERNANDINA'S GOT THREE AT ONE TIME, WHAT'S HAPPENING HERE? THE DEMOLITION OF SEA WALL AND THEN THE DEMOLITION OF BRETT'S, AND THEN THE DEMOLITION OF LAKE SEAFOOD.
THIS IS A SMALLER PROJECT, REALLY A MAINTENANCE PROJECT.
BUT THAT WAS TAKEN INTO CONSIDERATION WITH THE OTHER PERMITS.
THIS IS JUST FOR THE REMOVAL OF THE BUILDING. THAT'S IT.
>> I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THAT, BE ABLE TO HAVE A TRAILER.
PULLING INTO THE SOUTH AND BACKING IT UP, INSTEAD OF THE OTHER WAY. IT'D BE NICER.
>> MAKE IT EASIER FOR THEM, AFTER THE LAUNCH, GO DOWN TO PARK THEIR VEHICLES, INSTEAD OF PUTTING THE BUILDING UP THERE.
>> THERE'S NO CONCEPT NOW AS FOR A BUILDING TO GO BACK IN THAT FOOTPRINT.
>> I'LL PUNT TO GLENN. THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU. CAN YOU BRING UP DEPUTY CITY MANAGER?
>> YEAH. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WANTED ME TO SKIP.
>> CAN YOU BRING THE OTHER ONE UP.
FIRST, THE PICTURE OF THE SEA WALL. START WITH THAT.
GLENN COMMONS, DEPUTY CITY MANAGER.
I'LL GIVE YOU AN UPDATE ON AREA 6 FIRST, WHILE WE'RE GETTING READY.
THE BIDS CAME IN FOR AREA 6, WHICH IS RIGHT OUT HERE, THE DRAINAGE IMPROVEMENTS.
IT'LL ACTUALLY BE FROM BASICALLY FRONT STREET OUT TO 4TH.
WE ACTUALLY GOT A REALLY GOOD BID, SO IT WAS UNDER WHAT WE EXPECTED, SO WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO ADD A FEW EXTRAS, DEPENDING ON WHAT CONDITIONS WE FIND.
THAT PROJECT IS SLATED TO START IN PROBABLY 2-3 WEEKS AND TAKE ABOUT, I DON'T KNOW, EIGHT OR NINE MONTHS TO COMPLETE.
YOU'LL BE SEEING THAT ROLLING THROUGH HERE.
TO JEREMIAH'S UPDATE ON ATLANTIC SEAFOOD, WHATEVER WE DO THERE AND THE SEA WALL WILL BE PLANNED OUT TO CONNECT TO THAT AREA 6 PROJECT.
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BEFORE I GO THROUGH THIS, THE NEXT, I WANT TO GIVE YOU A QUICK UPDATE ON WATERFRONT PARK.YOU WILL SEE THE DIRT IS BEING MOVED PRETTY GOOD.
WE GOT BIDS FOR PUTTING THE TREES IN, AND WE'RE LOOKING AT PROBABLY ABOUT 2-3 WEEKS BEFORE THAT STARTS.
THAT WILL COINCIDE WITH IRRIGATION, CONCRETE, AND THEY STARTED FINISHING THE ROOFING ON THE PAVILION.
THEN WE HAVE POWER GOING IN AFTER THAT.
WE ARE SLATED TO REACH SUBSTANTIAL COMPLETION BY MARCH 2ND. WE'RE MOVING PRETTY GOOD.
WE'LL SEE A LOT OF ACTIVITY THERE.
I WANT TO HIGHLIGHT I HAD MENTIONED TO YOU PREVIOUSLY IN AN UPDATE THAT I WOULD BE BRINGING A COUPLE OF THINGS BACK.
FIRST THING I'M GOING TO TALK ABOUT IS WALK YOU THROUGH THE SCHEDULE OF THE RESILIENCY WALL.
WE HAVE DIVIDED IT INTO FOUR SEGMENTS.
WE ALSO HAVE A SEGMENT 5, WHICH IS NORTH OF OUR PROPERTY, AND WE'VE DIVIDED THAT INTO A SEPARATE APPROACH.
THE REASON WE DID THAT IS BECAUSE THERE'S, IN PERMITTING, WORKING WITH THE ARMY CORPS TO PERMIT IT, WE HAD TOO MANY UNKNOWNS TO REALLY GET A PERMIT.
WE HAVE A LOT OF PRIVATE PROPERTY OWNERS WE WANT TO WORK WITH BEFORE WE GO TO SEGMENT 5.
SEGMENT 1 IS TO THE SOUTH END, SOUTH OF THE PARK, AND WE'RE WAITING ON SOME PERMIT INFORMATION AT THIS POINT FROM FDEP, AND I THINK WE'RE PROBABLY A WEEK OR TWO OUT OF GETTING THAT INFORMATION, MAYBE THREE.
ONCE WE GET THAT IN PLACE, WE WILL BE MOVING TO BID.
WE'RE HOPING TO BID END OF MARCH TO START THAT PROJECT.
YOU WILL SEE, IS IT THE 17TH? JAKE, THAT THE FPU?
>> THE SECOND MEETING IN FEBRUARY, WE'RE GOING TO UNDERGROUND THE POWER THERE ON THE SOUTH END OF THE PARK, AND SO THAT PROJECT IS ON FOR COMMISSION CONSIDERATION, SECOND MEETING IN FEBRUARY.
THEN WE'LL START THAT PROJECT AS SOON AS WE CAN.
WE WANT THEM DONE BEFORE WE BRING IN ANOTHER CONTRACTOR BECAUSE THAT'S IMPORTANT TO BE ABLE TO COMPLETE THE RESILIENCY.
>> THAT'S SEGMENT 1. SEGMENT 2 IS BASICALLY THE BOAT LAUNCH.
JEREMIAH MENTIONED WHERE ATLANTIC SEAFOOD IS.
THERE'S A 40-FOOT GAP BETWEEN THE BOAT LAUNCH AND WHERE WE ENDED, WHAT WE CALL SEGMENT 0, BECAUSE WE STARTED THAT BEFORE WE PUT ALL THIS TOGETHER.
WE ARE LOOKING AT BEING ABLE TO BID THAT 40-FOOT SECTION WITH SEGMENT 1, IF WE CAN.
IF WE CAN'T, WE'RE GOING TO PUT IT IN THE PROJECT WITH SEGMENT 3 AND 4, WHICH I'LL TALK ABOUT IN A SECOND THAT'S TIED TO BRETT'S.
WE WANT TO BE ABLE TO FIT THAT IN SO WE CAN COMPLETE PHASE 2 OF THE PARK.
THAT'S AN IMPORTANT PART, AS JEREMIAH MENTIONED, WE DON'T WANT TO PUT THINGS PERMANENTLY IN THERE, AND WE WOULD LIKE TO FINISH THAT PARK ON A PERMANENT BASIS PROBABLY BEFORE THE BOAT LAUNCH GETS FINISHED.
SO SEGMENT 3 AND 4, BRETT'S WILL ENCOMPASS A PORTION OF 3 AND 4, SO WE'LL BE IN THE MIDDLE OF IT.
I DIDN'T MENTION SEGMENT 1'S FUNDING COMES FROM THE ORIGINAL TWO MILLION DOLLAR GRANT THAT WE RECEIVED FROM THE STATE.
THAT HAS BEEN SITTING AROUND A WHILE, AND WE WANT TO EXPEND THAT MONEY FAIRLY QUICKLY.
THEY WANT US TO EXPEND IT FAIRLY QUICKLY, SO THAT'S WHY WE FOCUSED IT ON SEGMENT 1.
BRETT'S DEMOLITION, WHICH I'M GOING TO GO THROUGH POWERPOINT ON THAT PIECE HERE IN A SECOND.
BUT THE SEA WALL WILL GO UNDER IT AND WHERE WE'RE GOING TO TEAR OUT AND WHERE I SHOW YOU WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO ON TOP.
THE RESILIENCY WALL WILL GO IN THERE.
WE'RE GOING TO USE THE FOUR MILLION DOLLARS THAT WE GOT FROM THE STATE TO FUND THAT PART OF THE PROJECT.
WE ARE ASKING FOR MORE TO DO THE REST, BUT WHEN WE HAVE THOSE THREE SECTIONS DONE, SEGMENT 1, SEGMENT 0, PIECES OF 3 AND 4, ABOUT 75% OF THAT FOUR SEGMENT PIECE WILL BE FINISHED.
THEN WE'RE ALREADY LOOKING AT OTHER POSSIBLE GRANT FUNDING TO HELP US FINISH THOSE SECTIONS.
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THAT'S WHERE IT IS.BE GLAD TO SUPPLY THIS TO YOU.
WE'LL SEND THIS TO YOU IN EMAIL SO YOU CAN READ IT A LITTLE BIT BETTER.
IT'S EASIER TO READ WHEN YOU HAVE IT ON YOUR COMPUTER, BUT WE WANTED TO BE ABLE TO GIVE YOU A QUICK UPDATE.
ANY QUESTIONS ON THAT PART BEFORE WE MOVE?
>> NO. I LOVE HOW YOU HAVE THIS ALL BROKEN DOWN. IT'S REALLY NICE.
>> LET'S MOVE TO THE POWERPOINT.
WE PRESENTED THIS TO COMMISSION THE OTHER NIGHT AND AS I PROMISED YOU, I WOULD BRING IT BACK TO YOU AND GET YOUR INPUT ON IT.
I WOULD SAY WE'RE STILL IN CONCEPTS, SO WE'RE ABOUT GETTING READY TO DO A 60% PLAN SET, SO INPUT IS STILL AVAILABLE AT ALL LEVELS.
THIS IS WHAT THE COMMISSION APPROVED THE FIRST TIME MONTHS AGO, ACTUALLY, I HAD JUST STARTED AS THE PROJECT MANAGER WHEN WE DID THIS.
YOU CAN SEE WE WERE GOING TO TAKE BRETT'S DOWN, WE WERE GOING TO BASICALLY EXTEND THE WALKWAY, AND THEN WE WERE GOING TO DO A LOT OF CONNECTIVITY WITH THE MARINA.
YOU'LL SEE THE HOOK PART OUT THERE IS THE CONCRETE PIER THAT THE HARBOR MASTER BUILDING IS AT.
THERE'S THE NOAA PIECE THAT'S OUT THERE TOO.
WHEN WE WERE LOOKING AT THAT, THAT WAS NOT CONSIDERED IN THE ORIGINAL CONVERSATION.
BUT WHEN THE STAFF TEAM AND THE CONSULTANT TEAM LOOKED AT IT, IT DIDN'T MAKE SENSE, AND YOU ALL HAD MADE THIS POINT IS FIX WHAT YOU CAN FIX AND MAKE IT SUSTAINABLE FOR A LONG LIFE.
THAT WAS ONE OF OUR MAIN FOCUSES IS TO EVALUATE TO MAKE SURE THAT WE COULD HAVE A 40-50 YEAR LIFE OUT OF THIS, THAT WE COULD ENHANCE THE MARINA AND KEEP THE MARINA FUNCTIONING, NOT ONLY AS WE DID CONSTRUCTION, BUT MAKE IT A BETTER FUNCTIONING MARINA INDEFINITELY.
MARINA STAFF HAS BEEN PART OF THESE CONVERSATIONS ALL ALONG.
THIS IS THE AREA THAT WE ENHANCED TO, AND THIS IS WHERE THE CORPS OF ENGINEER PERMIT IS.
NO MATTER WHAT WE DO, ALL OF THIS AREA THAT YOU'RE SEEING UP THERE IS PART OF OUR PERMIT SUBMISSION.
WE DID SUBMIT THE PERMITS ALREADY.
WE'VE ALREADY GOTTEN COMMENTS BACK.
WE MAY FINISH OUR PERMIT PROCESS FASTER THAN WHAT JEREMIAH WAS ABLE TO FOR ATLANTIC SEAFOOD FOR 40 FEET OF COVERED AREA.
BUT THEY'VE BEEN REALLY RESPONSIVE.
WE ARE PREPARING TO SUBMIT THE RESPONSES TO THEIR FIRST LEVEL OF COMMENTS.
WE USUALLY PLAN FOR THREE SETS, THEY COME A LOT FASTER AFTER THE FIRST ONE.
AS AN EXAMPLE, THE SEA WALL, WE'VE ALREADY SUBMITTED THE SECOND VERSION OF REQUIREMENTS FOR THEM.
ONE OF THE THINGS THAT ALSO HAS ENHANCED THE PROCESS IS THAT THEY NOW KNOW WE HAVE THREE PERMITS IN FOR THE ONE SAME AREA, SO THEY'RE TRYING TO MAKE SURE THEY LOOK AT EVERYTHING IN A HOLISTIC WAY.
WE DEFINITELY WANTED TO IMPROVE RESILIENCY, AS YOU KNOW THAT'S WHY BRETT'S HAS TO COME DOWN IS BECAUSE THE WALL IS FAILING UNDERNEATH.
WE'RE LOOKING TO MAKE SURE THAT WE CAN GO TO NINE FEET THAT WILL KEEP US FROM FLOODING REGULARLY, LIKE YOU SEE ON THE KING TIDES AND THOSE THINGS.
THIS IS THE START OF THAT PROCESS.
I DO WANT TO BE CLEAR THAT WE'RE NOT GOING TO SOLVE AT ALL WITH SEGMENT 1-4, BUT WE HAVE TO DO 1-4 TO SOLVE THE PROBLEM.
WE DEFINITELY GOALS OR ACCESS TO THE RIVERFRONT FOR VIEWING AND PEDESTRIANS.
I THINK WHEN YOU SEE THE PARK OPEN, YOU'RE GOING TO SEE DEFINITELY AN ENHANCEMENT THERE.
WE WANT TO KEEP THAT MOMENTUM GOING WITH ALL OF OUR IMPROVEMENTS.
ONE OF THE CLEAR GOALS IS TO IMPROVE THE VIEW CORRIDORS DOWN EACH STREET, CERTAINLY CENTER STREET TO THE RIVER.
BRETT'S REMOVAL WILL DO THAT, BUT OUR PROJECT IS LOOKING TO ENHANCE THAT.
WE WANTED TO LIMIT THE RISKS AND IMPACTS TO THE MARINA.
ONE OF THEIR BIG REVENUE SOURCES IS FUELING.
WE ARE GOING TO MOVE THE FUEL, WHICH I'LL TALK ABOUT IN A MINUTE OR WE'RE GOING TO IMPROVE IT.
WE WANT TO KEEP THEIR BUSINESS OPEN, WE DON'T WANT DOWNTIME.
ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I DISCUSSED WITH THE CONSULTANT IS, I WANT NO MORE THAN 24 HOURS DISTURBANCE OF THE FUELING SERVICES,
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AND THAT'S WHAT THEY'VE BEEN WORKING TOWARDS.WE WANT TO IMPROVE THE FLOW, WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THAT BEFORE.
PART OF REMOVING PILINGS AND PUTTING NEW ONES IN AND MAKING THEM SMALLER AND EASIER, LESS IMPACTFUL ON THE FLOW.
ONE OF THE THINGS WE'RE GOING TO DO WHEN WE'RE FINISHED WITH THIS PROJECT IS DO ANOTHER FLOW STUDY.
WE DID ONE IN 2017, 2018, I'M NOT SURE WHAT THE DATE IS.
BUT IT SHOWED WHAT THE PROBLEMS WERE, AND WE WANT TO DO ANOTHER ONE TO MAKE SURE THAT WE IMPACTED IN A POSITIVE WAY BECAUSE THAT'S PART OF THE GOALS OF THIS PROJECT.
WE WILL NOT START THE PROJECT UNTIL SHRIMP FEST IS OVER THIS YEAR.
WE ARE LOOKING AT POSSIBLY 18-MONTH SCHEDULE, SO WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO WORK AROUND AT LEAST ONE SHRIMP FEST, BUT IT WON'T BE 2026.
THE CONSULTANT DID THIS PRESENTATION, SO THEY TALKED ABOUT WALKING THROUGH EVERYTHING WITH MARINA STAFF.
WE DO MEETINGS WITH THEM ON A REGULAR BASIS, AND WHEN WE COME UP WITH IDEAS OR CONCERNS, THEY GO TO CONSTRUCTION PROFESSIONALS TO TRY TO FIGURE OUT HOW WE'RE GOING TO DO THAT AND REDUCE COST.
THAT HAS BEEN THE MAIN FOCUS IS HOW DO WE PHASE THIS, IMPACT THE LEAST POSSIBLE AND THEN BE ABLE TO DELIVER A NICE PRODUCT THAT IMPROVES EVERYTHING.
NOW, WE TALKED LAST TIME, I GOT SOME QUESTIONS ABOUT THE NEW TIMBER WALKWAY.
I'VE BEEN CALLING IT A PIER, AND THAT'S WHAT IT IS.
THEY'RE GOING TO BID IT TWO DIFFERENT WAYS THOUGH.
ONE IS WOOD, AND WE'LL TALK ABOUT ABOUT THAT, BUT THEY'RE ALSO LOOKING AT COMPOSITE.
SO THEY'RE GOING TO BID COMPOSITE TO SEE HOW IT IS.
WHEN WE LOOK AT CONCRETE, FIRST OF ALL, IT'S INCREDIBLY EXPENSIVE, AND IT'S ACTUALLY NOT AS EFFECTIVE AT DELIVERING WHAT WE NEED IN THE LONG RUN, INCLUDING THERE'S BARNACLES, THERE'S CLEANING, THERE'S ALL THOSE OTHER THINGS, AND AESTHETICS.
BUT THEY'VE BEEN LOOKING AT IT, AND AGAIN, WE'RE NOT TOTALLY DONE WITH THAT.
THEN WE HAD TALKED ABOUT MOVING THE FUEL LOCATION, BASICALLY TO BEHIND WHERE BRETT'S IS, ABOUT WHERE THE ANCHOR IS, AND WHEN WE REEVALUATED MOVING THE PIER TO THE NORTH, WE REALIZED THAT WE DIDN'T NEED TO, AND THAT SAVES A LOT OF MONEY.
THE NEW TIMBER WALKWAY, I'M GOING TO SHOW YOU A PICTURE OF IT IN A MINUTE.
WE'RE GOING TO ANSWER ALL OF THESE QUESTIONS, WE'RE GOING TO REMOVE THE OPERATIONS BUILDING, AND ONE OF THE QUESTIONS THAT AS ACTUALLY COME UP IS WHERE ARE WE GOING TO PUT MARINA STAFF? TO START WITH, WE'RE LOOKING AT PUTTING THEM WHERE THE MANAGER'S OFFICE IS NOW, THE CAPTAIN'S LOUNGE, WILL BECOME A STAFF AREA FOR THEM TEMPORARILY.
THEN WE'LL ANSWER THAT QUESTION AS PART OF PHASE 2 AS THAT COMES.
THEN LIKE I SAID, THE FUEL SYSTEM LOCATION, WE WANT TO MOVE IT.
IT'S GOING TO ACTUALLY BE SHORTER DISTANCE IF WE DON'T MOVE IT.
ONE OF THE THINGS THAT THEY'VE TALKED ABOUT IS CREATING A SWEEP SO THAT WE DON'T HAVE ALL THE 90S.
I THINK HE COUNTED OUT LIKE SIX 90S ARE IN THERE.
THE FIRST PHASE OF THIS PROJECT WILL TAKE FIVE OF THEM OUT.
IF WE GET A GOOD BID, WE'RE GOING TO LOOK AT BIDDING THE SIXTH ONE TO SEE IF WE CAN GET IT OUT.
BUT THE REASON THAT WE WOULDN'T IS THAT WE ARE GOING TO MOVE THE REST THE PIPELINE BEHIND THE NEW WALL, SO WE'LL BE ABLE TO BURY IT.
ONE OF THE FACTORS WAS THE COST OF BURYING LINE IS EXTREMELY EXPENSIVE, SO WE'RE LOOKING AT REDUCING COSTS BY DOING THAT.
HERE'S THE IMPROVED LAYOUT AS WE HAVE IT TODAY.
ON THE SOUTH END, YOU CAN SEE UNDERNEATH IS THE OLD VERSION.
WE'RE GOING TO MOVE THE PIER TO THE WALKWAY, TO THE NORTH ABOUT 50 FEET.
WHAT THAT ALLOWS US TO DO IS A COUPLE OF THINGS.
IT ALLOWS US TO PUT IT IN, BUILD IT, LEAVE THE OTHER ONE IN PLACE, OPERATE MOST OF THE MARINA, DOCKS A AND B WILL BE IMPACTED, BUT THE MARINA STAFF ARE ALREADY PLANNING ON HOW WE'RE GOING TO MOVE THINGS AROUND.
THEN WHAT WE'LL BE ABLE TO DO IS PUT ALL THE NEW FUEL IN, ALL OF THAT, AND THEN IT'LL JUST BE A QUICK PLUG.
THE LAST PLUG WILL BE THAT 24 HOURS AS FAR AS MOVING THE FINAL PIECES OF THE PIPELINE.
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ONCE WE BUILD THAT, I WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT TOO THAT THE SQUARE FOOTAGE OF WHAT WE HAVE VERSUS WHAT WE'RE ADDING IS ALMOST THE SAME.IT'S WITHIN 50 SQUARE FEET OR SO OF EACH OTHER AT THIS POINT.
THAT'S A REAL POSITIVE FOR OUR PERMITTING THAT WE'RE NOT IMPACTING ANY MORE THAN WE WERE BEFORE.
ACTUALLY WE'RE TAKING OUT A LOT MORE OF THE PILLARS, SO WE'RE ACTUALLY IMPACTING IN A POSITIVE.
THERE'S A NET LOSS IN PIERS, WHICH IS A POSITIVE IN THE LONG RUN.
YOU CAN SEE THAT WE WILL HAVE FOUR DISTINCT ACCESSES TO EACH OF THE DOCKS.
ORIGINALLY, WE WERE LOOKING AT EXTENDING ON THE NORTH END, A AND B, AND NOW WE'RE LOOKING TO TAKE THE KINK OUT A LITTLE BIT ON THE SOUTH END, AND BE ABLE TO ADD SOME CAPACITY TOO.
I DID WANT TO HIGHLIGHT THAT THE CONSULTANT DID HIGHLIGHT PUTTING GATES ON ALL OF THESE AND MAKING SURE THAT THEY'RE SECURE.
WE DID HAVE A DISCUSSION, THE COMMISSION HAD A FEW QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT.
ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I MENTIONED, YOU MAY TALK ABOUT THIS LATER, BUT IS THAT THAT IS A POLICY DECISION ON ACCESS AND WHEN ACCESS IS GRANTED TO EACH AND EVERY ONE OF THOSE SPOTS, IT'S A POLICY DECISION THAT WE'LL BRING BACK TO THE COMMISSION AS PART OF THE BEFORE WE HAVE THE GRAND OPENING.
WE'LL NEED TO KNOW WHAT THE NEW SIGNS WILL SAY WHEN WE PUT THAT UP.
THAT'LL BE A DECISION FOR A LATER DATE.
I WANT TO HIGHLIGHT, ONCE WE HAND THIS TO THE CONTRACTOR, THE CONTRACTOR ACTUALLY OWNS THE CONSTRUCTION SITE SOMEWHAT.
THEY'LL BE REQUIRED TO KEEP ACCESS TO THE MARINA OPEN.
BUT HOW THEY DO THAT AND WHAT THEY ALLOW IS UP TO THEM TO PROTECT THEMSELVES.
WE'LL BE WORKING WITH THEM TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE THE ACCESS THAT WE NEED, BUT I JUST WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT THAT THEY DO HAVE A LOT OF THAT CONTROL.
YOU'LL ALSO SEE THAT WE ARE GOING TO KEEP THE WALKWAY WATER WORD, AND THAT'LL BE AS BASICALLY AS IT IS, BUT IT'LL GO ALONG THE SEA WALL.
IS IT THE NEXT ONE THAT'S THE SCHEMATIC? I'LL HIGHLIGHT THESE, I WANTED TO SHOW YOU THE SCHEMATIC OR THE 3D RENDERING OF IT.
WE LOOKED AT RAISING ELEVATIONS, AND WE LOOKED AT ALL KINDS OF FACTORS, COST IMPACTS, OR, OF COURSE, ALL OF THAT.
ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE DID LOOK AT IS KEEPING THE SAME PILINGS, BUT WE KNEW THAT IN ORDER TO WE NEED TO RAISE IT A LITTLE BIT, AND SO NO ONE WOULD THERE'S A TECHNOLOGY THAT ALLOWS YOU TO BASICALLY COVER THE PILINGS IN CONCRETE.
BUT YOU CAN ONLY DO IT TO THE HEIGHT THAT YOU'RE AT, AND WE COULDN'T GET ANYBODY TO CERTIFY THEIR CONDITION THAT THEY WOULD BE SUSTAINABLE.
AND WE ARE GOING TO HAVE TO PUT IF WE KEPT THE OLD VERSION, WE WOULD HAVE TO EXTEND THEM TWO FEET, AND THAT JUST CAN'T BE DONE WITHOUT PULLING THEM OUT, WHICH LED US TO BE ABLE TO MOVE IT 50 FEET AND MAKE IT WORK PHASING-WISE.
AGAIN, ONE OF THE CHALLENGES IS TIME, AND THEY HIGHLIGHTED THAT BETWEEN 2,500 AND $5,000 A DAY FOR THE CRANE AND BARGE COSTS, THAT'S JUST THOSE TWO COSTS.
THAT'S NOT HAVING STAFF ON BOARD AND SLOWLY GOING THROUGH CONSTRUCTION.
WE'RE GOING TO GET A MUCH BETTER BID AND SAVE A LOT OF COSTS IN THAT.
THEIR COSTS HERE ARE THEY TENDED TO BE ON THE CONSERVATIVE SIDE BECAUSE THEY DON'T WANT TO MAKE PROMISES THAT AREN'T DELIVERED, AND NEITHER DO WE, BUT IT'S GOING TO SAVE JUST THE TIME IS 30 PLUS DAYS AND WHEN YOU'RE DOING THIS PROJECT, AND YOU'RE LOOKING AT ANYWHERE FROM 14-18 MONTHS OF CONSTRUCTION, ANOTHER 30 DAYS IS QUITE EXTENSIVE.
WE WANT TO WE WANTED TO DEMO THE MARINE OPERATIONS BUILDING.
IF YOU GO UNDER THERE, SOME OF THE CONCRETE PILLARS ARE CROOKED AS IT IS.
REALISTICALLY, IF YOU'RE LOOKING AT WHAT WOULD HAVE HAPPENED WHEN BRETT'S COMES DOWN,
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IT'S GOING TO BE SARK AT FIRST.IT'S GOING TO BE SHOCKING FOR EVERYBODY.
THEN IF WE LEFT THAT OLD BUILDING OUT THERE, IT WOULD HAVE BEEN EVEN WORSE.
TO EVERYBODY'S CONCERN IS WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE MAKE EVERYTHING SUSTAINABLE, AND WE'RE NOT GOING BACK OUT THERE THREE YEARS FROM NOW TO FIX THAT.
WE LOOKED AT A HOLISTIC APPROACH.
WE TALKED ABOUT THE FUELING SYSTEM.
WE DON'T HAVE TO MOVE THE ELECTRICAL. IT'S ALREADY THERE.
WE ARE GOING TO ADD CAPACITY, SO THE TANKS THAT ARE THERE WILL BE REMOVED, BUT IT'S JUST PULLING THEM OUT AND DROPPING NEW ONES IN.
WE ARE GOING TO THE REQUEST AT THIS TIME HAS BEEN 20,000 DIESEL AND 10,000.
>> GASOLINE. THAT'S OUR GOAL IS TO PUT THOSE IN THERE SO THAT WE DON'T HAVE TO HAVE AS MANY DELIVERIES.
ONE OF THE KEY THINGS IS TO IMPACT FILL TIME.
THE FASTER WE GO, THE MORE THEY MOVE THROUGH, AND THAT'S ALL OF THE 90S IMPACT THAT.
FLOW IS AN IMPORTANT PART OF THIS CONVERSATION.
IF WE DO GET GOOD BIDS, THERE'S OTHER THINGS THAT WE CAN LOOK AT, INCLUDING REPLACING PUMPS AND THAT SORT OF THING, WHICH AREN'T CURRENTLY PLANNED, BUT THOSE ARE THINGS WE CAN TALK ABOUT.
WHEN YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT 60-90 DAYS SAVINGS TIME, IS THREE MONTHS.
IN THEORY, IF YOU ARE PLANNING FOR 18 AND YOU CAN GET DONE IN 15, THAT'S A HUGE FINANCIAL IMPACT, BUT IT'S ALSO AN OPERATIONAL IMPACT TO OUR REVENUE, BUT ALSO TO THE ENJOYMENT OF OUR COMMUNITY OF THE AREA.
WE ARE LOOKING AT A NUMBER OF THINGS THAT WE MIGHT NEED.
WE WILL BE DOING A LOT OF BID ADDITIVES HERE SO THAT IF WE CAN AFFORD IT, AND WE GET GOOD BIDS, THEN WE CAN DO THOSE THINGS, BUT WE'LL ALSO KNOW WHAT THE COSTS ARE.
IF WE CHOOSE NOT TO DO THEM OR WE CAN AFFORD THEM, THEN WE'LL MOVE THERE.
WHEN YOU LOOK AT THIS ONE, THIS ONE WAS A PRELIMINARY RENDERING, SO IT'S ACTUALLY FARTHER SOUTH THAN THE ACTUAL PIECE WILL BE.
BUT THEY HAVEN'T DONE ONE WITH THE NEW VERSION YET, WHICH WHEN WE GET 60%, WE WILL PROVIDE THAT TO THE COMMUNITY.
YOU CAN SEE HERE, THAT THIS ONE WAS STILL WITH THE ONE HARBOR MASTER BUILDING STILL BEING THERE, SO YOU CAN SEE THE FUNKY DOCK DESIGN THAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO DO.
WE'LL BE ABLE TO MAKE THAT ALL STRAIGHT.
WE ARE LOOKING AT MAKING SURE WE HAVE AREAS WHERE PEOPLE CAN IF THEY'RE WAITING TO GET ON THE DOCK OR GET ON ONE OF THE BOATS THAT THEY CAN, THEY HAVE A PLACE TO HANG OUT.
WE'RE TRYING TO MAKE THAT PIER A FOCAL POINT OF PEOPLE TO WATCH THE SUNSET AND ENJOY THE WATER.
ONE OF THE THINGS I WANTED TO MENTION THAT WASN'T MENTIONED THE OTHER NIGHT WAS THAT THERE IS A NOAH STATION RIGHT THERE, AND WE MET WITH NOAH TWO WEEKS AGO AND WALKED THE SITE, AND THEY'RE ACTUALLY GOING TO ENHANCE IT, AND WE'RE GOING TO PLACE THAT BACK EXACTLY WHERE IT IS.
THE PIER WILL ACTUALLY COME RIGHT OUT THERE, AND WE'LL BE ABLE TO PUT IT RIGHT BACK WHERE IT IS.
TEMPORARILY, WE'RE WORKING AT FINDING A TEMPORARY LOCATION BECAUSE THEY WANT TO KEEP ALL THEIR FLOW DATA GOING AND ALL THE WEATHER DATA FROM THE AREA BUT THEY WILL WORK WITH US TO INSTALL A BRAND NEW ONE, AND WE'LL BUILD A SITE FOR THEM TO BE ABLE TO PUT THAT IN SO THAT WILL REMAIN AND BE A MORE OF A FOCAL POSITIVE POINT OF THE PEER.
WITH THAT, IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
>> THE TURQUOISE COLOR ON THE LAST WHEN YOU MENTIONED THAT THERE WAS NO DECREASE OR IT WAS THE SAME SQUARE FOOTAGE.
THAT'S BEEN MY BIGGEST CONCERN IS LOSING ANY BIT OF THAT BECAUSE GETTING IT BACK IS GOING TO BE A NIGHTMARE.
REALLY. I THINK WHEN WE WERE TALKING ABOUT THE DESIGN FOR MANY MONTHS WE JUST REALLY DIDN'T WANT TO LOSE THAT, AND IT APPEARS THAT THAT'S DEFINITELY HAPPENED.
>> I DIDN'T WANT TO LOSE THAT SPACE OVER THE WATER BECAUSE IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S JUST ALMOST LIKE HALF OF WHAT WE ARE.
>> IT'S THE SAME SQUARE FOOTAGE OVER THE WATER AS IT IS TODAY.
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>> LOOKING AT IT, IT DOESN'T LOOK LIKE IT IS.
>> WE'RE NOT IF YOU COUNT BRETT'S, NO.
BUT IF YOU COUNT ALL OF THE WALKWAYS, THE ONE AROUND THE OUTSIDE OF BRETTS, THE MAIN PIER, ALL OF THE AREAS WHERE THE HARBOR MASTER IS, IT'S THE SAME.
>> I DIDN'T WANT TO LOSE THE SQUARE FOOTAGE OF BRETT'S EITHER.
>> UNDERSTOOD, BUT PERMITTING-WISE, THAT'S THE CHALLENGE FOR US.
>> IF IT'S ALREADY THERE, WHY IS THAT A CHALLENGE, I GUESS?
>> THERE ARE NEW REGULATIONS WITH THEM.
BUT I DON'T THINK WE COULD REALISTICALLY PUT ALL OF A PIER TOGETHER THAT IS, AT LEAST AT THIS POINT.
ONE OF THE OTHER IDEAS THAT I KNOW YOU HAVE ALL SUPPORTED AND SHARED WITH US IS A FISHING PIER TO THE NORTH AND SO THAT'S A WAY TO GAIN THAT BACK IN A DIFFERENT WAY.
>> WE'RE GOING TO DO ANY DREDGING WHILE YOU GOT THIS TOWED DOWN?
>> YES, WE'RE GOING TO DO THE SPOT DREDGING THAT WE NEED TO DO TO DO THIS SO THAT EVERYTHING, AND OF COURSE, UNDERNEATH BRETT'S HASN'T BEEN DONE IN A LONG TIME, SO ALL OF THAT WILL BE DONE.
WHETHER WE'VE TALKED INTERNALLY ABOUT WHETHER WE DO A FULL-BLOWN DREDGING, OR WE JUST DO THAT AND THEN DO THE REST LATER.
I DON'T THINK WE'VE MADE A FINAL DECISION ON THAT.
SOME OF IT WILL BE BASED ON WHAT THEY FIND, BUT WE'RE GOING TO PULL A LOT OF STUFF OUT OF THERE SO WE DON'T HAVE TO WORK AROUND PILLARS AND PIERS.
>> IF YOU'LL CLEAN UP ALL THE DEBRIS THAT FELL DOWN IN THERE OVER THE YEARS.
>> OH, YEAH. THAT'S GOING TO BE PART OF THE PERMIT REQUIREMENTS TO GET ALONG WITH THAT.
>> I THINK THE WALKWAY LOOKS FANTASTIC, AND PEOPLE ARE REALLY GOING TO ENJOY THAT FOR SUNSET AND THINGS FOR SURE. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS?
>> WHAT'S THE COST DIFFERENCE BETWEEN WOOD VERSUS CONCRETE, AND THE LONGEVITY CONCRETE VERSUS WOOD, BECAUSE I'VE SEEN THAT DECK REPLACED TWICE AT LEAST SINCE IT'S BEEN THERE, AND THE REST OF IT HAS BEEN THERE SINCE THE 60S AND IN WHICH Y'ALL WANT TO KNOW WHERE THOSE PILINGS BEFORE THE S IS FUEL DOCK.
THEY'VE BEEN THERE SINCE THE 90S AND HAVE NOT HAD ANYTHING TOUCHED TO THEM.
YOU TELL ME WHAT THE DIFFERENCE IS IN THE LONGEVITY MAKES?
>> FIRST OF ALL, WE'RE GOING TO BID ALL OF THAT AS FAR AS CLEANING AND MAINTENANCE, AND AESTHETICS.
ONE OF THE CHALLENGES IS THAT CONCRETE DOES ROT.
>> OH, YEAH, IT DOES. IT JUST DOESN'T DO IT AS FAST AS EVERYTHING ELSE AT THIS POINT.
THAT'S ONE OF THE DISCUSSION POINTS ON COMPOSITE.
THEY'RE FINDING THAT COMPOSITE IS A MUCH EASIER FOR US TO MAINTAIN AND WORK WITH AND HAS A SIMILAR LIFE.
>> YOU GOING TO DO COMPOSITE PILINGS OR WOOD PILES?
>> WHEN YOU CHANGE, IS THERE ANY PLAN TO UTILIZE THE HOUSE THAT'S ON THE BREAKWATER THAT WAS ORIGINALLY SUPPOSED TO BE THE FUEL HOUSE THAT'S ON THE B DOCK AND C DOCK NOW, INSTEAD OF EVERYBODY RUNNING THERE WILL BE AN OFFICE SO AS PEOPLE STAFF IS ON THE DOCK.
>> WE'RE LOOKING AT GETTING THAT SO THAT PEOPLE CAN GO THERE.
I KNOW THE MARINA MANAGER IS WORKING ON HOW THAT'S GOING TO LOOK WORKING WITH THEIR IT DEPARTMENT TO GET EVERYTHING IN PLACE.
>>> BECAUSE IT'S A STORAGE UNIT NOW, AND IT WAS ORIGINALLY DESIGNED FOR THE DOCK AT TENANTS TO TAKE CARE OF FUEL.
>> IF NOTHING ELSE, WE WANT TO USE THAT DURING CONSTRUCTION AT THE VERY LEAST, BUT IF WE'RE GOING TO REHAB IT AND USE IT, AND OUR MAIN OFFICE IS A LITTLE FARTHER AWAY FROM THE LOCATION THAT IT IS NOW, IT MAKES SENSE FOR US TO HAVE SOMETHING.
>> THREE TIMES FOUR TIMES FURTHER NOW.
WE WANT THEM TO BE ABLE TO DO THEIR INITIAL BUSINESS RIGHT THERE AS CLOSE TO THE MARINA AS POSSIBLE, AND THEN IF THEY'VE GOT MORE SUBSTANTIAL STUFF, THEY CAN COME TO THE MAIN OFFICE.
THAT'S OUR WORKING, AND WE'RE WORKING THROUGH ALL OF THOSE DETAILS RIGHT NOW.
>> WOULD BE GREAT TO HAVE A STAFF LOCATED RIGHT ON THE DOCK WHERE THE BUSINESS IS TAKEN CARE OF INSTEAD OF PEOPLE WONDERING WHERE IT IS AND HAVING WALKWAY UP THERE.
IF THEY'RE FUELING A BOAT, THEY CAN SEND SOMEBODY UP TO TAKE CARE OF BUSINESS UP IN OFFICE AND USE RADIO TO COMMUNICATE.
>> UNDERSTOOD. WE AGREE WITH THAT.
IT'S JUST WORKING OUT THE DETAILS OF IT AND MAKING SURE EVERYTHING FUNCTIONS AS IT'S INTENDED.
>> SOUNDS GOOD. YOU GOT IF IT WAS CONCRETE.
YOU'VE SEEN WHAT HAPPENS TO THE STORM WITH THAT WOOD?
>> IT DOES LOOK LIKE CONCRETE LASTS FOUR TIMES AS LONG.
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>> WE GOT SOME NICE COMPOSITE PILOT OUT THERE NOW.
>> THOSE ARE FACTORS WE'RE GOING TO BE WORKING ON AS WE MOVE FORWARD.
LIKE I SAID, WE'RE AT 60% PLANS.
ALL OF THOSE DECISIONS WILL BE MADE.
THEN WE'LL BE DOING SOME BID ADDITIVES SO WE CAN MAKE A GOOD CHOICE AS FAR AS HOW MUCH MONEY WE HAVE VERSUS WHAT WE CAN DELIVER AS A STAFF, WE'RE COMMITTED TO PROVIDE THE ABSOLUTE BEST PRODUCT WE CAN AFFORD.
THAT'S REALLY OUR DECISION POINT.
>> BECAUSE I SAW IN A QUOTE WHERE OUR COMMISSIONERS, A FEW OF THEM VOTED CHEAPER, QUICKER, BETTER.
BUT YET, WHEN IT COMES TO THE PAVED PARKING AND THE BREAK ORDER, THEY WANT TO GO TO FULL NINE YARDS, AND I THINK THIS IS ONE OF THE MAJOR THINGS THAT CREATES THIS TOWN IS THAT MARINA, AND I THINK WE NEED TO TAKE CARE OF IT THE RIGHT WAY AND THIS'S THE ONLY CHANCE WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO DO IT.
>> DO IT RIGHT THE FIRST TIME. YOU WON'T DO IT TWICE.
[6.2 SUNSHINE LAW REVIEW]
I'M THE NEW DOWNTOWN DISTRICT COORDINATOR TAKING OVER FOR LISA, BUT I COME BY WAY OF THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE.
AND OUR NEW CITY ATTORNEY IS HERE TONIGHT, THERESA PRINCE, AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT IN THE OFFICE IS YOU CAN'T HAVE ENOUGH SUNSHINE LAW TRAINING FOR OFF THE BOARDS, AND IT'S A NEW YEAR.
WE'RE JUST GOING TO ROLL OUT A COUPLE OF QUICK SLIDES OVER SOME THINGS THAT ARE MOST RELEVANT TO YOU, JUST A BRIEF OVERVIEW.
DISCLAIMER: OF COURSE, THIS IS NOT SPECIFIC LEGAL ADVICE.
THIS IS JUST SOME GENERAL INFORMATION.
IF YOU DO HAVE SPECIFIC QUESTIONS COME SEE THE CITY ATTORNEY.
WE WON'T GO TOO FAR INTO THOSE TONIGHT.
WE'RE JUST GOING TO TALK ABOUT TWO THINGS TONIGHT.
THE FIRST WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT IS THE OPEN MEETING LAWS.
OUR GOVERNMENT IN THE SUNSHINE LAW PROVIDES THE RIGHT OF ACCESS TO GOVERNMENTAL PROCEEDINGS.
FIRST, THE MEETINGS MUST BE OPEN TO THE PUBLIC, SO THAT'S WHY WE HAVE THEM IN A SPACE LIKE THIS.
WE'VE GOT PEOPLE FROM THE PUBLIC THAT ARE ABLE TO ATTEND.
WE HAVE TO TELL THEM THAT THE MEETING IS GOING TO TAKE PLACE IN THE SUBJECT MATTER.
THAT'S USUALLY A PRETTY GOOD IDEA TO GIVE PROPER NOTICE THAT WAY.
THEN THE THIRD REQUIREMENT IS THAT MINUTES MUST BE TAKEN.
THOSE THREE THINGS. YOU HAVE TO LET THE PUBLIC KNOW THAT THE MEETINGS HAPPENING.
YOU HAVE TO HOLD IT IN A PLACE THAT THE PUBLIC CAN REASONABLY ATTEND, FIT IN, BE ACCOMMODATED, AND THEN, IN CASE THE PUBLIC WASN'T ABLE TO ATTEND, OR THEY WERE, AND THEY WANTED TO REVIEW WHAT ACTUALLY HAPPENED AT THE MEETING, YOU HAVE TO HAVE THAT WRITTEN RECORD.
WE DO HAVE THIS IN THE FLORIDA CONSTITUTION.
IT'S IN ARTICLE 1, SECTION 24.
THAT'S THE RIGHT OF THE PUBLIC TO HAVE THESE MEETINGS OUT IN THE SUNSHINE AND THEN THE SPECIFICS OF HOW THAT WORKS IS IN CHAPTER 286.
>> ONE OF THE QUESTIONS THAT WE GET ASKED IS WHO'S COVERED UNDER THE SUNSHINE LAW.
THAT'S ALL THE COUNCILS, BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS OF THE STATE AGENCIES, COUNTIES, MUNICIPAL GOVERNMENTS, ANY POLITICAL SUBDIVISIONS.
THAT'S ELECTED AND APPOINTED BOARDS.
THIS BOARD, THE WATERFRONT ADVISORY BOARD DOES FALL UNDER THE SUNSHINE LAW.
EVEN THOUGH YOU ARE APPOINTED, YOU ARE VOLUNTEERS, YOU STILL FALL UNDER THESE REQUIREMENTS.
THAT'S ANOTHER REASON WE'RE HERE.
IT'S GOOD THAT YOU KNOW WHAT THE REQUIREMENTS ARE.
IF YOU'RE A PRIVATE COMPANY DOING BUSINESS ON BEHALF OF A GOVERNMENT AGENCY, YOU HAVE TO YOU FALL UNDER THE SUNSHINE AS WELL.
THEN THE CONVERSATION COMES UP.
WHAT IS A MEETING? FOR THE PURPOSES OF THE SUNSHINE LAW, A MEETING IS ANY TIME TWO OR MORE MEMBERS OF THE SAME BOARD COME TOGETHER AND TALK ABOUT ANYTHING THAT COULD CONCEIVABLY COME BEFORE THAT BOARD THAT THEY COULD VOTE ON.
THAT INCLUDES ALL COMMUNICATIONS RELATED TO BUSINESS THAT MIGHT COME BEFORE THE BOARD.
THAT ALL HAS TO BE IN THE SUNSHINE.
BOARD MEMBERS MAY NOT PRIVATELY DISCUSS BOARD MATTERS WITH OTHER MEMBERS.
YOU CAN'T GO TO COFFEE AND CHAT ABOUT THINGS THAT MIGHT BE COMING UP THAT YOU MAY HAVE TO VOTE FOR.
IT DOESN'T REALLY MATTER WHAT METHOD OF COMMUNICATION YOU'RE
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USING UNLESS IT HAS BEEN PUBLICLY NOTICED, IT CAN'T REALLY BE DONE.OFTENTIMES, WHEN WE SEND OUT EMAILS TO THE ENTIRE BOARD, OUR DISCLAIMER AT THE TOP SAYS, PLEASE DO NOT REPLY ALL, BECAUSE ANY EMAIL CHAIN ALONG THOSE LINES WOULD BE CONDUCTED OUT OF THE SUNSHINE BECAUSE IT WASN'T PROPERLY NOTICED.
THEN JUST ANOTHER TIDBIT THERE IS YOU CAN'T COME UP TO A STAFF MEMBER AND SAY, HEY, WHAT DO YOU THINK IF I'M FLOATING THIS IDEA? COULD YOU MAYBE ASK SOME OF THE OTHER BOARD MEMBERS IF IT'S SOMETHING WE WOULD WANT TO DO? BECAUSE THEN YOU'RE USING THEM AS A CONDUIT OR A LIAISON, AND IT SEEMS LIKE YOU'RE CONDUCTING BUSINESS OUTSIDE OF THE SUNSHINE.
CAN YOU STILL HANG OUT? IF YOU ARE IN THE SAME SOCIAL SITUATIONS, THAT'S TOTALLY FINE.
JUST BE CAREFUL ABOUT WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT.
IF IT TENDS TO FLOW ON THINGS THAT MIGHT COME BEFORE THE BOARD IN THIS CASE, MAYBE AVOIDING DISCUSSIONS ON SPECIFICS ABOUT WHAT THE MARINA IS GOING TO LOOK LIKE OR HOW IT'S OPERATING, THE WATERFRONT PARK OR THE CRA.
THOSE ARE THINGS THAT YOU MIGHT NOT WANT TO TALK ABOUT THE NEXT TIME YOU SEE EACH OTHER AT DINNER? NOW, WHEN WE DO HAVE PUBLIC FUNCTIONS, LIKE, YOU'VE GOT A RIBBON CUTTING OR A GALA EVENT OR A TOWN HALL MEETING.
SOMETIMES WE CALL THAT WE HAVE NOTICES OF GATHERING, AND THAT'S JUST TO LET THE PUBLIC KNOW THAT YOU MIGHT HAVE A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT BOARD MEMBERS IN ATTENDANCE, BUT NO OFFICIAL ACTION SHOULD BE TAKEN, AND THAT DOESN'T GIVE THOSE BOARD MEMBERS LIKE CARTE BLANCHE TO GO AHEAD AND TALK ABOUT BOARD BUSINESS.
THE WHOLE POINT IS THAT YOU'RE THERE TO BE AT THAT PARTICULAR FUNCTION AND ATTEND THAT FUNCTION, NOT TO TALK ABOUT BOARD BUSINESS.
THEN JUST ANOTHER NOTE ABOUT PUBLIC ATTENDEES AND COMMENTS.
MEETINGS MUST BE OPEN TO THE PUBLIC AT ALL TIMES.
YOU CAN ALLOW VIDEO AND AUDIO RECORDING.
WE DO VIDEO AND AUDIO RECORD MOST OF OUR PUBLIC MEETINGS, AND YOU CAN FIND THEM ON THE WEBSITE.
BUT IF A MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC WANTS TO RECORD IT, THEY ARE WELCOME TO DO SO.
YOU'LL OFTEN SEE MEMBERS OF THE MEDIA DO THIS.
THE MOST IMPORTANT PART IS THAT MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC MUST BE GIVEN A REASONABLE OPPORTUNITY TO BE HEARD BEFORE A BOARD VOTES ON AN ITEM.
NOW, ALL THE BOARDS CAN PUT GUIDELINES IN PLACE ABOUT WHEN THE PUBLIC MAY SPEAK DURING THE MEETING FOR HOW LONG THE COMMISSION RULES OF PROCEDURE IN GENERAL.
IT'S ABOUT THREE MINUTES FOR ANY PARTICULAR ITEM.
MOST OF OUR BOARDS CAN FOLLOW THAT.
THEY CAN JUST MAKE THEIR OWN RULES, AND IT'S REALLY UP TO YOU HOW YOU WANT TO DO THAT.
BUT THE IMPORTANT THING IS THAT THEY'RE CONSISTENT.
IF YOU ARE INTERESTED WHERE WE PUBLISH ALL OF OUR MEETING NOTICES, SO WE ARE COMPLIANT WITH THE SUNSHINE LAW, WE PHYSICALLY POST THEM VARIOUS LOCATIONS AROUND THE CITY AND CITY BUILDINGS.
WE HAVE OUR ONLINE CALENDAR, AND THERE'S AN AGENDA LINK WHICH POSTS THE FULL AGENDA AND AGENDA PACKET.
THOSE ARE GENERALLY PUBLISHED SEVEN DAYS IN ADVANCE FOR A REGULAR MEETING.
THERE ARE PENALTIES INVOLVED IF THERE ARE VIOLATIONS FOR OPEN MEETINGS.
THE ACTION TAKEN BY THE BOARD IN VIOLATION IF YOU DIDN'T NOTICE THE MEETING PROPERLY AND YOU TAKE ACTION, THE ACTION THAT YOU'VE TAKEN COULD BE INVALIDATED.
THERE ARE CASES WHERE THERE ARE SECOND DEGREE MISDEMEANORS, THERE'S IMPRISONMENT AND FINES INVOLVED, YOU COULD BE REMOVED FROM OFFICE BY THE GOVERNOR AND THE FAVORITE REASONABLE ATTORNEY'S FEES, WHICH CAN ADD UP PRETTY QUICKLY.
>> CAN WE JUST BLIND COAT COPY PEOPLE THEN ON THESE?
>> THE INTERNET KNOWS WHAT YOU'VE DONE.
>> WHEN WE'RE SENDING OUT NOTICES TO THE BOARD, JUST SO THEY DON'T NOBODY REPLIES ALL SO THEY DON'T GO TO PRISON.
>> IT'S ONE OF THE THINGS THAT YOU NEED TO KNOW THAT YOU'RE NOT SUPPOSED TO DO THAT, SO YOU DON'T DO IT INADVERTENTLY.
THAT'S ONE OF THE REASONS THAT WE'RE HERE SHARING THIS INFORMATION AND MAKING SURE THAT EVERYONE HAS THAT.
WITH THE BLIND CARBON COPY, IT CAN WORK TO SOME DEGREE,
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BUT IT'S NOT FAIL PROOF.>> I JUST THOUGHT IT WOULD BE EASIER, LESS TEMPTING.
>> I KNOW. WE'RE SO USED TO BEING GOOD COMMUNICATORS AND KEEPING EVERYBODY IN THE LOOP.
BUT THE POINT IS, WE REALLY WANT TO KEEP EVERYBODY IN THE LOOP, NOT JUST THE SMALL GROUP, AND THAT'S WHERE THE OPEN MEETINGS COMES INTO PLAY.
THE OTHER THING I JUST WANT TO TOUCH ON BRIEFLY IS PUBLIC RECORDS LAW.
YOUR CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHT, AGAIN, IS IN ARTICLE I, SECTION 24, AND THE SPECIFIC LAW ON HOW IT'S CARRIED OUT IS IN FLORIDA STATUTES CHAPTER 119.
AGAIN, THIS APPLIES TO ALL UNITS OF GOVERNMENT, MUNICIPALITIES, STATE DEPARTMENTS, AGENCIES, DISTRICTS, ALL OF THAT.
A PUBLIC RECORD IS ANY DOCUMENT, PAPER, MAP, PHOTO, CALENDAR, INVITE, THAT TEXT MESSAGE, SOCIAL MEDIA POST, IF YOU ARE CONDUCTING PUBLIC BUSINESS TO FORMALIZE KNOWLEDGE.
IT DOESN'T REALLY MATTER WHAT YOUR PHYSICAL FORM IS OR HOW YOU'VE TRANSMITTED THE INFORMATION.
IT DOES INCLUDE RECORDS THAT ONLY EXIST IN DIGITAL FORM.
IT IS BASED ON THE NATURE OF THE RECORD.
THE CONTENT OF WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, NOT THE PHYSICAL LOCATION.
IT DOESN'T MATTER IF YOU HAVE A PUBLIC EMAIL ADDRESS AND A PRIVATE EMAIL ADDRESS, IF YOU'RE USING THAT PRIVATE EMAIL ADDRESS TO DISSEMINATE PUBLIC INFORMATION, THOSE MESSAGES ARE PUBLIC.
BUT IT DOES MEAN THAT THOSE RECORDS HAVE TO PERPETUATE KNOWLEDGE TO BE CONSIDERED PUBLIC.
IF YOU ARE WORKING ON A DRAFT OF SOMETHING THAT YOU WANT TO SHARE WITH THE GROUP AT A LATER DATE, IF YOU DON'T SHARE THAT WITH ANYBODY, THEN THAT IS YOURS UP TO THE POINT WHERE YOU HAND IT OVER TO SOMEBODY AND SAY, HEY, CAN YOU TAKE A LOOK AT THIS AND PROVIDE FEEDBACK? THEN ANY VERSION OF THOSE DRAFTS ARE SHARED FROM THE PUBLIC.
WHEN IT COMES TO PUBLIC RECORDS, IF SOMEBODY ASKS FOR A RECORD, THEY DON'T HAVE TO PROVIDE ANY SORT OF IDENTIFYING INFORMATION.
THEY DON'T NEED A REASON TO REQUEST THE RECORD.
THE FACT THAT THE RECORD EXISTS IS ENOUGH REASON FOR ANYBODY TO ASK FOR IT.
IF YOU ARE MAKING OR RECEIVING A PUBLIC RECORD, SO E MAILS OR TEXT MESSAGES, ANY OF THOSE THINGS, YOU'RE RESPONSIBLE FOR MAINTAINING THAT RECORD.
THE CLERK'S OFFICE IS THE KEEPER OF THE RECORDS OFFICIALLY, BUT ANYBODY WHO IS A PUBLIC OFFICIAL IS RESPONSIBLE FOR THEIR OWN RECORDS.
THAT BEING SAID, IF SOMEONE REQUESTS RECORDS FOR THE WATERFRONT ADVISORY BOARD AND MAY REQUEST SOME EMAILS OR SOME PHONE RECORDS OR TEXT MESSAGES.
THE CLERK'S OFFICE MIGHT CONTACT YOU, ASK YOU TO SNIP YOUR TEXT MESSAGES AND SEND THEM OVER AS PART OF A PUBLIC RECORDS REQUEST.
YOU DO HAVE A RESPONSIBILITY TO RESPOND IF SOMEBODY ASK YOU FOR ANY SORT OF INFORMATION, YOU CAN JUST LET THEM KNOW THAT THE REQUEST IS RECEIVED, AND IT WILL BE RESPONDED TO PROMPTLY.
THEN YOU CAN ASK CITY STAFF TO HELP YOU FULFILL THAT REQUEST, AND WE CAN HANDLE IT FROM THERE IF WE NEED TO.
WE DO USE THIS ONLINE SYSTEM CALLED JUST FOIA.
IT'S NOT REQUIRED FOR PEOPLE TO MAKE REQUESTS TO USE THIS SYSTEM.
BUT IT'S A REALLY EASY WAY TO GET THAT INFORMATION REQUESTED AND SUBMITTED BACK TO THE PUBLIC.
IF YOU EVER GET A CHANCE, TAKE A LOOK AT IT.
IT'S REALLY USEFUL, ESPECIALLY IF YOU HAVE SOMEBODY ASKING FOR INFORMATION, YOU CAN FILL IT OUT AND GET IT IN THERE TO THE CLERK'S OFFICE, AND THEY CAN MAKE SURE THAT THE RIGHT PERSON GETS THE RECORDS REQUEST TO FULFILL IT.
IF YOU DO GET A PUBLIC RECORDS REQUEST.
REALLY HELPFUL THINGS TO SAY IS, HOW WOULD YOU LIKE TO RECEIVE THAT RECORD? SOME PEOPLE DO LIKE PAPER COPIES.
SOME PEOPLE ARE FINE WITH GETTING EMAILS.
SOME PEOPLE SAY, I'M GOING TO SHOW UP HERE NEXT WEEK, AND YOU CAN JUST HAVE IT WAITING ON THE DESK FOR ME IF THEY DON'T WANT TO PROVIDE ANY INFORMATION.
ALL OF THOSE ARE PERFECTLY ACCEPTABLE WAYS TO RECEIVE THEIR RECORDS REQUEST.
THEN JUST LET THEM KNOW, YES, SOMEBODY'S GOING TO RESPOND TO THAT,
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OR I WILL, THE CITY WILL, WE WILL RESPOND TO THAT.DON'T SEND THEM SOMEPLACE ELSE.
JUST GET THE INFORMATION, AND THEN YOU CAN RELAY IT TO STAFF AND STAFF WILL MAKE SURE THAT WE GET THAT PROCESSED IF YOU'RE NOT COMFORTABLE DOING THE JUST FOIA.
LIKE I SAID, NOBODY REALLY NEEDS TO GIVE THEIR NAME, THEIR NUMBER, WHY THEY WANT THE INFORMATION.
IT'S JUST A MATTER THAT IF THEY WANT IT.
THEY'RE ENTITLED TO RECEIVE IT PROVIDED IT DOESN'T HAVE ANY EXEMPTIONS WHICH ARE LISTED IN THE STATUTE, BUT THERE'S A LOT OF THOSE, AND IT'S PRETTY COMPLICATED.
AGAIN, THERE ARE PENALTIES FOR THESE.
IT'S IMPORTANT FOR YOU TO KNOW ALL OF THE RULES AND KNOW WHAT THE VIOLATION PENALTIES COULD BE.
FINE, SUSPENSION, REMOVAL FROM OFFICE, MISDEMEANORS.
THEN A PERSON WHO HAS BEEN DENIED THE RIGHT TO INSPECT PUBLIC RECORDS OR FEELS THAT THEY HAVE, THEY CAN BRING A CIVIL ACTION, AND THOSE ACTIONS GET TO JUMP THE LINE IN FRONT OF OTHER COURT DOCKET CASES, SO IT GETS EXPEDITED THROUGH THERE.
THAT'S JUST INFORMATION FOR YOU.
THEN, IF YOU WANT SOME MORE INFORMATION ON ALL OF THIS, GREAT RESOURCES, OUR CITY ATTORNEY IS HERE, AND THEN OUR CITY CLERK CAROLINE BEST.
THE SEARCHABLE STATUTES, IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ON ANY OF THE MORE SPECIFIC RULES ON PUBLIC MEETINGS, PUBLIC RECORDS, OR THE STATE ATTORNEY GENERAL'S OFFICE.
THEY HAVE A MUCH LONGER TRAINING ON SUNSHINE LAW.
I THINK THEY EVEN HAVE A FOUR HOUR ONE, WHICH IS WHAT OUR ELECTED OFFICIALS HAVE TO TAKE ANNUALLY.
THEY HAVE A LOT OF ATTORNEY GENERAL OPINIONS ON WHETHER OR NOT SOMETHING CONSTITUTES A MEETING OR WHETHER RECORD IS PUBLIC OR NOT.
IF YOU HAVE SOME QUESTIONS, YOU CAN TYPE IN A FEW KEYWORDS AND SEE WHAT COMES UP IF YOU ARE CURIOUS.
DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS?
>> CARRIER PIGEONS. THAT MEANS YOU READ MISSED SLIDE.
>> YES. I'M INTERESTED IN THAT.
OUR NEXT MEETING NOTIFICATION.
>> APPARENTLY, THEY'RE LIKE, COMING BACK BECAUSE THEY'RE VERY SECURE.
>> THERE'S NO TRACE. BE DIDN'T BURN IT.
>> COULD BE IN JAIL. PRISON TIME.
>> MOVING FORWARD, NEW BUSINESS?
[7.1 DEVELOPMENT OF WORK PLAN]
GOT THE DEVELOPMENT OF WORK PLAN.TASKED WITH PUTTING TOGETHER A WORK PLAN.
>> WE'RE IN A NEW CALENDAR YEAR AND FINISHED UP WITH A COUPLE OF PROJECTS.
NOW'S THE TIME FOR YOU ALL TO START THINKING ABOUT WHAT YOU WANT TO FOCUS ON IN THIS CALENDAR YEAR.
THERE'S A LOT OF REALLY GREAT THINGS GOING ON AT THE WATERFRONT.
>> WE WANTED TO HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO SHOW YOU ALL WHAT IS IN YOUR GOVERNING RESOLUTION AND WHAT YOU'RE TASKED WITH DOING, AND JUST START THE CONVERSATION, PROBABLY GO INTO THIS A LITTLE BIT MORE WITH FINALIZING.
THE NEXT MEETING, WHEN, HOPEFULLY, WE'LL HAVE A FEW MORE MEMBERS JOIN US.
I JUST WANTED TO OPEN THE DOOR FOR THAT CONVERSATION, IF THERE'S ANYTHING THAT YOU ARE INTERESTED IN LEARNING MORE ABOUT, HAVING A HAND IN, THINGS THAT YOU WANT TO BE INVOLVED IN OR DEVELOP YOUR WORK PLAN.
>> I THINK WE'VE BROUGHT UP TO THE COMMISSIONERS A FEW TIMES.
I KNOW LISA DID, TOO, JUST ABOUT THE COMMISSIONERS WANT US TO WORK ON.
WE'VE GOT OUR AGENDA, AND WHAT ARE OUR PRIORITIES? BUT OUR FEEDBACK WAS THAT THEY WEREN'T NECESSARILY ALIGNED WITH OUR VIEWS.
WE FELT LIKE WE WERE WASTING OUR TIME.
WE WERE HOPING TO HEAR FROM THEM.
I SENT A FORMAL EMAIL OUT, AND THEN TO THE COMMISSIONERS, DIDN'T REALLY HEAR MUCH BACK WITH THAT EITHER.
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WE JUST, I THINK, AS A BOARD, AND YOU CAN TELL BY THE ATTENDANCE, WE WANT TO MAKE SURE WE'RE NOT WASTING OUR TIME AND STAFF MONEY.WHAT DO WE NEED TO BE DOING HERE? WE PUT SO MUCH TIME INTO A LOT OF THESE PARKS AND DESIGN AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
NOW IT SEEMS LIKE THEY'RE JUST MOVING FORWARD USING THESE OTHER PASSWORDS AND WHOEVER ELSE, WHICH THEY NEED TO, BUT JUST EVEN THE CONCEPTS OF WHAT WE WANT TO SEE.
WE CAN TALK ABOUT THINGS THAT WE WORK ON, BUT HOW IS THAT? IS THAT WHAT WE'RE BEING ASKED?
>> ARE THERE THINGS IN PARTICULAR THAT YOU ARE INTERESTED IN?
>> CAN I GIVE AN EXAMPLE, I GUESS, MAYBE JUST OPENING THE WALKWAY OVER BROOM FRONT STREET? IS THAT AN EXAMPLE OF SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE INTERESTING?
>> THAT CERTAINLY IS AN EXAMPLE TYPE THING THAT WE COULD DEVELOP INTO A WORK PLAN.
THE HARBOR MASTER PLAN COMES TO MIND.
OAKLAND AND I HAVE TALKED WITH THE BOARD ON THAT PROCESS THAT WE HOPE TO GET KICKED OFF HERE WITH THIS BOARD IN THE NEXT COUPLE OF MONTHS.
I THINK THAT'S ANOTHER TYPE OF ITEM. EXCUSE ME.
CERTAINLY, ANY LEVEL OF INVOLVEMENT IN OUR PROJECTS.
OBVIOUSLY, ALL ARE HEAVILY INVOLVED WITH THE WATERFRONT PARK PLAN.
LIKE JEREMIAH MENTIONED, THE NEXT PHASE OR THE EXTENSION TO THE NORTH WHEN ATLANTIC SEAFOOD COMES DOWN, WILL CERTAINLY BE LOOKING FOR YOUR INPUT ON THAT FOR ANY FINAL DECISIONS OR APPROVALS OR AWARDED AND BEFORE WE GO OUT TO BID.
WE FOCUSED A LOT ON THE CRA OBJECTIVES AND STRATEGIES WITH THE CRA ADVISORY BOARD.
WE'VE GIVEN THIS COMBINED BOARD AN UPDATE ON THAT.
THERE'S STILL SOME WORK WE COULD DO WITH THAT, IF YOU'RE INTERESTED IN LOOKING AT MORE OF A FINANCIAL IMPACT OF THE CRA AND HOW THE TIF FUNDS WORK.
IT'S ANOTHER EXAMPLE. LATER ON, AND I GUESS THE NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS ALSO LOOKING AT DIFFERENT PROPERTIES IN THE CITY.
THAT CAN BE A WIDE RANGE AND A VARYING RANGE THAT GOES INTO THAT WORK PLAN.
WE JUST WANT TO FORMALIZE IT SO THAT WE CAN PROVIDE THAT TO THE CITY COMMISSION SO THAT THEY KNOW WHAT ALL ARE WORKING ON.
THEN I THINK IF THEY GET THAT, IT'LL HELP THEM PROVIDE ADDITIONAL FEEDBACK FOR YOU ON WHERE THEY WANT YOU TO FOCUS.
>> OUR TASK LIST BEFORE THE NEXT MEETING WOULD BE, OR DO WE NEED TO TALK ABOUT THAT NOW?
>> WE DON'T NEED A FINAL DECISION TONIGHT.
WE JUST WANTED TO GET THIS ON YOUR RADAR, SO MAYBE WE CAN HAVE SOMETHING PUT TOGETHER.
YOU CAN HAVE A MORE ROBUST DISCUSSION AT THE NEXT MEETING.
MAYBE COME UP WITH A COUPLE OF ITEMS THAT YOU WANT TO PUT IN THE WORK PLAN, AND THEN WE CAN PUT SOMETHING TOGETHER.
>> WE CAME UP WITH A PLAN THAT WHEN WE WERE DOING THE PARK AND ALL, AND TALKED TO THE PATON PEOPLE, AND THEY WERE GOING TO USE THIS AREA.
BUT YET ALL LEFT A WOODEN AREA, AND THAT'S A LOT OF AREA THAT COULD BE USED FOR OTHER THINGS, BUT ALL LEFT IT ALONE, AND THIS BOARD SAID, LET'S MOVE AWAY WITH IT AND MOVE TO THE PARK AND A WORKING AREA.
BUT THE FOUR BY FOURS ARE THERE, AND EVERYTHING ELSE.
WHAT'S GOING ON THERE? THIS BOARD WORKED HARD ON THAT.
>> THE PATON COURTS ARE GOING TO STAY IN THEIR CURRENT LOCATION.
THEY WILL OBVIOUSLY BE CLEANED UP AND PUT BACK INTO GOOD CONDITION AS PART OF THE CLEANUP WITH THE PARK.
THE CITY COMMISSION ULTIMATELY MADE THE DECISION TO LEAVE THAT SPACE AS A FLEX SPACE TO BE USED FOR PARKING AT EVENTS AND OTHER TYPE OF EVENTS.
BUT THE ACTUAL SURFACE HAS BEEN IN THE PLAN TO LEAVE IT.
PATON CAN GO BACK AND UTILIZE IT.
>> THOSE SIX BY SIX ARE GOING TO BE FORMED THERE, STAY THERE.
THEN YOU CAN'T USE IT FOR ANYTHING ELSE.
YOU CAN'T DRIVE OVER THOSE THINGS.
THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS THAT THE BOARD IS UPSET, JUST ME THAT WE SAT UP HERE AND DISCUSSED AND TALKED TO PEOPLE ON THIS BOARD, AND TALKED PERSONALLY TO THE PRESIDENT OF THE PATON.
THEY SAID THEY'RE SATISFIED WITH CENTRAL PARK AND EVERYTHING.
THE COMMISSIONERS AND YOU ALL TOLD US THAT NOAH'S GOING TO BE PART OF THE PARK AND UTILIZE FOR MAYBE THEY COULD DO SATURDAY MARKET DOWN THERE OR DO SOMETHING ELSE DOWN THERE FOR SPECIAL EVENTS, BUT NOW YOU'RE SAYING THAT THAT'S ALL GOING AWAY.
>> NO, THE INTENT IS STILL TO PROVIDE A FLEX SPACE.
IT CAN BE USED FOR DIFFERENT EVENTS, WHETHER IT'S FARMERS' MARKET, ANY OTHER TYPE OF EVENT.
THE TIMBERS WERE ON THE FINAL PLANS TO BE KEPT IN PLACE.
THERE'S A COUPLE SECTIONS THAT COME OUT SO THAT
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VEHICULAR OR OTHER TRAFFIC CAN UTILIZE THAT SPACE.BUT IT'S ALWAYS AFTER FINAL APPROVAL BEEN LEFT FOR A FLEX SPACE, SO THAT PATON AND OR OTHER EVENTS AND USES CAN ALL UTILIZE THAT SOUTHERN END OF THE PARK.
NEXT MEETING, WE NEED TO ALL COME WITH OUR IDEAS FOR DIFFERENT PROJECTS WE WANT TO WORK ON THAT ARE IN THE CRA OR ALONG THE WATERFRONT.
>> AND IF I MAY, JUST ONE MORE THING, WE'VE GOT GLENN SHOWED THE SEAWALL SEGMENTS COMING UP.
ONE OF THE WAYS THE BOARD MIGHT BE INVALUABLE IS HELPING WITH SOME OF THOSE PUBLIC PARTNERSHIPS AS THOSE PIECES ARE PUT UP, AND HELPING ALONG WITH THAT.
IT WAS JUST SOMETHING TO CONSIDER THIS MONTH.
>> DO YOU KNOW ANY PROPERTY OWNERS DOWN THAT WAY?
>> YOU TOO. HE TALKED ABOUT BUTTING HEADS WITH ME.
>> LET ME BACK UP TO MY AGENDA. THAT ON OUR RADAR.
THEN THIS IS WHAT I'M EXCITED TO HEAR ABOUT: LAND ACQUISITION.
[7.2 LAND ACQUISITION]
THANK YOU ALL FOR SAYING WE'RE GETTING THERE, AND I REALLY WANT TO TALK ABOUT.THIS IS THE LAST THING, THOUGH, BEFORE. MARINA.
>> YES. THIS ITEM WAS REQUESTED TO BE PLACED ON YOUR AGENDA AT THE CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE.
OUR CRA ADVISORY BOARD MEMBERS WILL REMEMBER THAT THERE WAS SOME GOOD DISCUSSION ABOUT A PROPERTY THAT'S FOR SALE HERE ON SOUTH SECOND STREET.
ULTIMATELY MADE A RECOMMENDATION TO THE CITY COMMISSION, AND THAT PROPERTY IS STILL ON THE MARKET.
WE WANTED TO PUT IT BACK BEFORE THE WATERFRONT ADVISORY BOARD TO HEAR A DISCUSSION IF THERE'S ANY WILLINGNES OF THIS BOARD TO MAKE A RECOMMENDATION FOR THAT PARTICULAR PROPERTY.
THE CITY COMMISSION'S VISIONING SESSIONS COMING UP HERE IN FEBRUARY AND SO WE JUST WANTED TO SEE IF THIS BOARD, WHAT THE DIRECTION THOUGHTS WERE, GIVEN THAT IT'S A LARGER PIECE OF PROPERTY FOR SALE, OBVIOUSLY, IN THE CRA, ADJACENT TO PUBLIC PARKING, CITY HALL, DIDN'T KNOW IF THERE WAS ANY MORE QUESTIONS.
>> THAT WHOLE WAREHOUSE ALL THE WAY TO WHERE THOSE CONDOS ARE?
>> YES, SIR. IT'S 115 SOUTH SECOND STREET.
>> DO YOU WANT TO PULL IT OUT?
>> THEY WANT IT TO BE OUR FAULT FOR RECOMMENDING IT IN THE NEWS.
THAT MEANS. SO BUT BACK TO WHAT WE DISCUSSED LAST TIME-
I THINK WE SHOULD RECOMMEND PURCHASING THAT PROPERTY.
I THINK IT'S VALUABLE, EITHER PARKING, FLEX SPACE, HOWEVER YOU WANT TO CALL IT.
WE'RE NOT BUILDING ANYMORE IN DOWNTOWN, SO I THINK IT'S WORTH US RE-RECOMMENDING BECAUSE WE RECOMMENDED IT.
IT WAS CONSENSUS HEAD DOWN THAT ROAD, AND THEN IT DIDN'T GO ANYWHERE.
>> I WOULD OPEN UP THAT PARKING TWICE AS MUCH.
YOU NEED A FORMAL MOTION AGAIN BECAUSE WE'RE A NEW BOARD?
>> WE WOULD WANT A NEW MOTION.
>> AS LONG AS WE DON'T BUY IT, THEN BECAUSE I KNOW IT'S NOT ZONED FOR PARKING.
IS THERE A WAY THAT THAT COULD BE BLOCKED? I DON'T WANT TO BUY IT AND NOT BE ABLE TO USE IT.
>> PARKING IS A PERMISSIBLE USE AS IT RELATES TO AN ACCESSORY, STANDALONE PARKING FACILITY.
THAT CAN'T BE THE PRIMARY USE, BUT IF THAT'S THE DIRECTION THE CITY COMMISSION WANTS TO SEE FOR THAT PROPERTY, THERE'S CODE AMENDMENTS AND WAYS TO MAKE IT HAPPEN.
BUT THERE'S NOTHING PREVENTING IT FROM BEING, SAY, SURFACE-LEVEL PARKING WITH SOME STRUCTURE ABOVE IT.
>> IS IT POSSIBLE THAT IT COULD BE A PARKING GARAGE? DOES THE ZONING LET YOU GO HIGH ENOUGH FOR THAT? DO YOU THINK IT WAS 33 FEET?
>> A STANDALONE PARKING GARAGE GOES BACK TO WHAT JENNY'S REFERRING TO AS THE USE TABLE, SO THAT THE CITY'S CODE HAS A LIST OF PRIMARY USES, AND THAT'S NOT A PRIMARY USE CALLED OUT FOR THE MU ONE ZONING.
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BUT THERE'S AGAIN AVENUES, WHETHER THERE'S INCORPORATION OF COMMERCIAL INTO THE STRUCTURE.THERE'S A NUMBER OF WAYS THAT COULD BE ADDRESSED.
>> I'D VOTE FOR WHAT WAS FOR PARKING TO HELP OUT WITH A SITUATION, AND IT'S NOT IN THE PAID PARKING AREA EITHER.
>> CORRECT. YOU KNOW WHAT THE ASKING PRICE IS?
>> I BELIEVE IT'S 2.2 MILLION, THE CURRENT ASKING PRICE.
>> IS THERE ANY TALK ABOUT BUILDING A NEW CITY HALL?
>> THERE'S ALWAYS LOTS OF TALK ABOUT ANY NUMBER.
>> I'M JUST SAYING THAT IT MIGHT BE WORTH PURCHASING AT SOME POINT YOU PARK ON IT, AND THEN YOU HAVE THE LAND TO BUILD IT.
>> GET PREPARED. BASICALLY, THIS BUILDING HERE HAS PROBABLY BEEN HERE A LONG TIME; IT'S GOT SO MANY LITTLE RAT NESTS UPSTAIRS UP THERE FOR OFFICES.
RODENTS? [LAUGHTER] WELL, I WOULD LIKE TO DO A FORMAL MOTION.
>> I WOULD TOO. MADAM CHAIR, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT THE WATERFRONT ADVISORY BOARD RECOMMEND TO THE CITY COMMISSION TO PURCHASE OF WHAT'S THAT ADDRESS, JAKE?
AS A REMINDER, IT IS THE SAME MOTION THAT THE CRA BOARD RECOMMENDED TO THE CITY COMMISSION LAST YEAR. YOU REMEMBER?
>> YOU HAVE TO STEP DOWN AS CHAIR. DO YOU UNDERSTAND?
>> FOR THE SECOND TIME. [LAUGHTER] THAT'S RIGHT.
>> TAKE A ROLL CALL. MEMBER MILLS?
[8.1 MARINA MANAGER REPORT]
MARINA MANAGER REPORT.>> HOW ARE YOU DOING, RAYLA? GOOD EVENING, CHRIS FERGUSON, MARINA GENERAL MANAGER.
JUST GOING TO GO THROUGH SORT OF AN UPDATE ON A FEW OF THE PROJECTS THAT WE'RE WORKING ON AT THE MARINA.
I'LL GIVE YOU A LITTLE FINANCIAL UPDATE ON Q1. HAD A GREAT QUARTER.
BUT I DID WANT TO JUST CIRCLE BACK WITH ALAN, THE FUEL HUT THAT'S DOWN ON C AND D DOC.
WE'VE ALREADY STARTED MAKING STRIDES.
IT'S OUR INTENT. WE WOULD LIKE TO PUT THAT INTO PLAY AND PUT IT BACK INTO AN OPERATING OFFICE AREA.
WE'RE ENTERTAINING PUTTING ETHERNET IN THERE.
SO WE HAVE A COMPUTER, TELEPHONE, VHF RADIO, AND THAT WAY, WE CAN PROCESS FUEL, WE CAN PROCESS TRANSIENT CHECK-INS, ETC.
WITH THE DEMO OF THE EXISTING, I GUESS, MARINA OFFICE, DOCK OFFICE, AND THEN EVERYTHING MOVING TO THE CAPTAIN'S LOUNGE, AS YOU ALLUDED TO.
I THINK THAT FACILITY DOWN THERE ON THAT DOCK IS BEING UNDERUTILIZED.
WE'VE ALREADY STARTED CLEARING IT OUT, REORGANIZING IT.
WE'RE LOOKING AT PUTTING SHELVES IN AND FIGURING OUT HOW BEST TO LAY IT OUT TO MAKE IT AS EFFICIENT AS POSSIBLE.
IT'S ONLY GOING TO ENHANCE THE EFFICIENCY OF OUR OPERATION. IT IS SOMETHING.
IT'S NOT APPROVED AS OF YET, BUT WE ARE MOVING IN THAT DIRECTION TO PUT THAT IN PLAY, UTILIZING IT IN THAT FASHION.
>> UTILIZING WHAT IT WAS DESIGNED FOR. THAT'S GREAT.
>> WE CAN GO TO THE NEXT. LIKE I SAID, WE'RE GOING TO GO THROUGH A QUICK FINANCIAL OVERVIEW, MARINA LOGO, CONTRACTORS, A FEW SIGNS, ETC.
WE CAN JUST JUMP INTO THE FINANCIAL OVERVIEW IF YOU'D LIKE.
Q1 WAS A REALLY STRONG QUARTER. WE EXPECTED IT.
IT IS FALL TRANSIENT SEASON. TOTAL REVENUE.
WE ENDED UP $39,000 AHEAD OF BUDGET, TRANSIENT REVENUE, REAL STRONG TRANSIENT SEASON, OVER $22,000 AHEAD OF BUDGET.
IN OCTOBER AND NOVEMBER WE WERE A LITTLE SOFT BECAUSE OF THE FLOW HOMES CONTRACT GOING BY THE WAYSIDE.
I WILL SAY IN DECEMBER, WE'VE MADE UP WHAT THE BUDGET IS FOR THE MONTH FOR ANNUAL.
WE'RE ON BUDGET FOR ANNUAL DOCKAGE FOR THE MONTH OF DECEMBER.
MOVING FORWARD IN FEBRUARY, WE HAVE THREE NEW ANNUALS COMING IN.
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WE'LL BE PERFORMING AHEAD OF BUDGET FOR THE REST OF THE YEAR, AND WE'LL BE ABLE TO CLOSE THE GAP, THE $9,000 DEFICIT THAT WE HAVE CURRENTLY.BY THE END OF THE YEAR, I EXPECT TO BE AHEAD OF BUDGET ON AN ANNUAL BASIS IN REFERENCE TO ANNUAL LONG TERM REVENUE.
NET FUEL REVENUE, AGAIN, WITH A STRONG TRANSIENT SEASON, COME STRONG FUEL, FOR ABOUT $13,000 AHEAD OF BUDGET.
MARGIN IS RIGHT ON POINT WHERE WE PROJECTED.
LABOR, WE SAW A REAL NICE SAVINGS IN LABOR, ABOUT 19,000 AS WE GOT CLOSER TO THE END OF THE QUARTER, WE STARTED TO SCALE BACK SOME OF OUR OPERATIONS, REALLY FOCUSED ON TRAINING THE STAFF THAT WE HAVE.
WE'RE FINDING EFFICIENCIES AND NOT HAVING TO CARRY AS MANY FOLKS.
AT LEAST THIS TIME OF YEAR, ONCE WE GET BACK INTO TRANSIENT SEASON, WE'LL BE GEARING BACK UP.
WE JUST HIRED A YOUNG MAN TO BE A PART OF THE TEAM, THINK HE'S GOING TO BE A TREMENDOUS ADDITION.
FORMER FIREFIGHTER, EMT, SO HE BRINGS A REAL NICE SKILL SET TO THE OPERATION.
AGAIN, UNDER BUDGET, ALMOST $43,000.
THAT SAVINGS REALLY COMES FROM SNAG-A-SLIP.
SNAG-A-SLIPS GONE BY THE WAYSIDE.
THAT'S AN EXPENSE WE NO LONGER INCUR ON PROCESSING OF RESERVATIONS.
THERE WERE SOME SERVICE CONTRACTS THAT WERE BUDGETED.
PERSONALLY, I DON'T THINK THEY'RE NECESSARY THIS YEAR, BASED ON SOME WORK THAT WE DID IN AND THROUGHOUT THE LAST FIVE MONTHS.
I THINK WE'VE RESOLVED THE ISSUES AT HAND.
ONE BEING THE TRANSIENT DOC AND ALL OF THE ELECTRICAL ISSUES.
ONE OF THE CONTRACTED SERVICES WAS AN ELECTRICAL ANALYSIS OF THE ENTIRE MARINA.
WE'VE BASICALLY ALREADY DONE THAT.
THEN WE'VE SEEN SOME SAVINGS ON THE INSURANCE SIDE.
JUST A LITTLE BIT UNDER BUDGET, WHICH IS GREAT.
WE DO HAVE SOME BIG PROJECTS COMING UP.
ONE OF THE PROJECTS I WILL DISCUSS AS WE GET FURTHER INTO THE PRESENTATION, BUT WE'LL START TO SEE SOME OF THOSE EXPENSES ESCALATE.
WE DO EXPECT THEM TO BE FORTHCOMING BASED ON THE PROJECTS THAT ARE FORTHCOMING.
THEN, FROM AN NOI PERSPECTIVE, Q1 WE'RE $62,000 AHEAD OF BUDGET.
I THINK REAL STRONG PERFORMANCE BY THE MARINA TEAM.
LIKE I SAID, WE HAVE THREE NEW ANNUALS COMING IN.
I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S GOING TO MEAN MUCH TO YOU.
I DON'T KNOW ABOUT YOU, BUT 39 AXAL PAR, 51 SABER, 61 NORD HOVEN, THESE SPECTACULAR BOAT.
REAL NICE ADDITION TO THE MARINA ITSELF, AND THE WAIT LIST JUST CONTINUES TO GROW.
IT'S A GOOD POSITION TO BE IN NOT ONLY FOR THE MARINA, BUT FOR THE CITY OF FERNANDINA BEACH.
OASIS, ALLIANCE, ALL OF THAT IS TRANSITIONING OFF OF ALL SIGNAGE, BRANDING, ETC.
FERNANDINA HARBOR MARINA IS KNOWN UP AND DOWN THE EASTERN SEABOARD AS FERNANDINA HARBOR MARINA.
WE HAVE NEW UNIFORMS THAT WE EXPECT, SO NEW UNIFORM SHIRTS, AT LEAST AT THIS STAGE THAT WE EXPECT THIS WEEK, UTILIZING THE NEW LOGO.
THIS LOGO HAS NOT BEEN APPROVED AS OF YET.
I'M JUST THROWING IT OUT THERE AS A CONCEPT.
NOT EVERY FORM OF ADVERTISING PRODUCTION MATERIAL THAT WE PLAN TO PUT FORTH IS SET UP FOR A CIRCULAR OVAL LOGO.
WE HAVE COME UP WITH A HORIZONTAL RECTANGULAR SHAPE THAT WE WANT TO RUN PAST JEREMIAH AND SARAH, CITY MANAGER AND DEPUTY CITY MANAGER FOR APPROVAL.
BUT WE'RE EXCITED FOR THE NEW LOGO, THE NEW LOOK, SO EVERYTHING THAT SAYS, ALLIANCE OR OASIS WILL BE SLOWLY PHASED OUT WITH EVERYTHING BEING FRONT OF FERNANDINA HARBOR MARINA.
WE'RE SUPER EXCITED. BOTH LOGOS, OF COURSE, HAVE THE GPS COORDINATES.
SEEMS LIKE PEOPLE REALLY WANT TO HAVE THAT NAVIGATIONAL INFORMATION ON ANYTHING THAT WE BRAND.
AGAIN, SUPER EXCITED ABOUT THAT.
THE PROJECT G DOCK AND B DOCK, AS GLENN DISCUSSED AND JEREMIAH AS WELL, WITH BRETT'S COMING DOWN THE BOATS THAT ARE ON A DOCK AND B DOCK, THEY ARE ALL GOING TO NEED TO MOVE OVER TO G DOCK.
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G DOCK NEEDS SUBSTANTIAL REHAB, AND WE ARE IN THE PROCESS OF WORKING THROUGH OBTAINING BIDS, WHICH WE HAVE THREE BIDS IN PLACE.WE ARE REVIEWING THOSE CURRENTLY, AND ULTIMATELY IT'LL GO TO COMMISSION ON 17TH OF FEBRUARY AND HOPEFULLY BE ABLE TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE CONTRACTOR OF CHOICE ON G DOCK.
B DOCK WAS AN ADD ON IF IT MADE SENSE FOR THE BUDGET.
UNFORTUNATELY, IT DOESN'T THIS YEAR.
THE MAIN FOCUS WILL BE THE REHABILITATION OF G DOCK ALLOWING US TO MOVE THE BOATS FROM A AND B FOR APPROXIMATELY A YEAR, MAYBE A LITTLE BIT LONGER OVER THAT LOCATION TO BE ABLE TO OPERATE AND NOT IMPACT THEIR BUSINESS OPERATIONS.
NEXT SLIDE. YOU HAD ASKED BEFORE IN THE PREVIOUS MEETING, WHETHER WE HAD ANY NO SMOKING SIGNS, DOWN ON THE DOCKS. WE DO.
THEY ARE ON THE DISPENSERS, AND THEY ARE LOCATED ON EVERY SINGLE DISPENSER.
ACTUALLY, BY LAW, YOU ARE REQUIRED TO HAVE NO SMOKING SIGNS AND FUELING OPERATIONAL INSTRUCTIONS POSTED.
REALLY ONLY NEEDS TO BE POSTED IN ONE LOCATION, BUT YOU'LL FIND THOSE NO SMOKING AND DURING FUELING AND AFTER FUELING INSTRUCTIONS ON EVERY SINGLE DISPENSER THAT WE HAVE DOWN ON C DOCK.
NEXT SLIDE. IN REFERENCE TO THE BOAT OWNERS ONLY. I'LL BE HONEST WITH YOU.
I PERSONALLY WAS UNABLE TO COME UP WITH ANY SORT OF HISTORY, ANY DOCUMENTATION FOR THAT SIGN IN THAT LOCATION.
I WILL SAY, AND I STAND BY THE STATEMENT THAT THAT IS A WORKING DOCK.
BASED ON THE WEATHER TODAY, ALAN, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WERE DOWN ON THE DOCK TODAY, BUT IT WAS EXTREMELY ROUGH OUT OFF OF THAT DOCK.
WE EVEN TOOK IT UPON OURSELVES TODAY TO HAVE A SPECIAL STAFF MEETING WITH OUR STAFF, REMINDING EVERYBODY TO BE CAREFUL.
ONLY IN OUR OPERATIONS, BECAUSE IT'S ONE OF THOSE DAYS WHERE IF YOU ACCIDENTALLY GO IN THE WATER, IT'S GOING TO BE REALLY DIFFICULT TO GET YOU OUT.
THAT'S REALLY WHERE WE STAND IN THE PROCESS OF SUPPORTING THE SIGN IS THE FACT THAT, AGAIN, C AND D IS AN OPERATING DOCK.
IT IS A WORKING DOCK WITH A LOT OF ACTIVITY WITH FUEL, WITH DOCK LINES WITH BOATS IN AND OUT.
IT'S REALLY JUST FOR SAFETY PURPOSES TO MAINTAIN ACCESS FOR THOSE THAT ARE FAMILIAR IN OPERATING AND TRAVERSING THAT TYPE OF ENVIRONMENT. ANY QUESTIONS?
>> I'LL JUST WAIT FOR YOU TO GET THROUGH BEFORE WE HAVE ANYTHING.
>> GET THROUGH YOUR PRESENTATION.
UNFORTUNATELY, WE'RE IN A POSITION WHERE WE'RE STARTING FROM SCRATCH.
BACK IN APRIL AND MAY, THERE WAS PURSUIT TO PRETTY MUCH FORECLOSE ON THOSE UNITS THAT YOU SEE UP ON THE SCREEN.
UNFORTUNATELY, THE NOTICES THAT WENT OUT WERE DEEMED DEFICIENT.
THEY WERE LACKING SPECIFIC PIECES OF INFORMATION.
I ACTUALLY MET WITH TERESA PRINCE TODAY REGARDING THE PATH FORWARD.
I THINK THE DECISION HAS BEEN MADE THAT WE REALLY JUST NEED TO START FROM SCRATCH, WHICH WE'RE HAPPY TO DO, OF COURSE. THEY ARE DERELICT.
THEY'VE BEEN ABANDONED AND WE ARE ENVISIONING FROM START TO FINISH BASED ON NOTICE, TIMELINES, ETC., 75-90 DAYS, WE SHOULD BE IN A POSITION TO HAVE THOSE UNITS SOLD AND REMOVED FROM THE PROPERTY.
WE WILL MOST LIKELY HAVE TO RELOCATE THOSE TO CITY PROPERTY ON LAND.
THE FACT THAT THEY DO RESIDE ON G DOCK AND G DOCK, A PART OF THE AGREEMENT THAT WE HAVE WITH THE CONTRACTOR OF CHOICE IS THAT THAT DOCK WILL BE CLOSED AND NOT BE UTILIZED BY ANY VESSELS WHILE THEY ARE REHABBING THAT DOCK.
WE WILL NEED TO RELOCATE THOSE TEMPORARILY UNTIL THAT DOCK IS COMPLETE.
BUT HOPEFULLY IN THE INTERIM, WE'LL HAVE FINALIZED THE PROCESS, ALL LEGAL NOTICES, NOTIFICATION TO THE OWNERSHIP, ETC., AND BE ABLE TO RESOLVE THE EYESORE THAT YOU SEE UP ON THE SCREEN. QUESTIONS?
>> ON THAT PARTICULAR THING OR THE WHOLE THING?
WHERE ARE WE AT WITH STAG-A-SLIP RETRIEVING THE MONEY THAT WAS DUE TO US? MY TIME THERE ARE $70,000 IN DEBT TO US.
I THINK WE COLLECTED WHAT? $20,000.
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>> I'D HAVE TO GET WITH OUR ACCOUNTING DEPARTMENT.
I DON'T HAVE THAT ANSWER FOR YOU, UNFORTUNATELY.
IS THERE'S STILL, WAS OUT THERE? THERE ARE FUNDS AND WE HONORED ALL THE RESERVATIONS, BUT THERE ARE FUNDS THAT WERE NOT PAID OUT BY SNAG-A-SLIP TO THE CITY OF FERNANDINA BEACH FOR VESSELS THAT DIDN'T MAKE RESERVATIONS.
THAT IS CORRECT. AS TO WHERE THAT STANDS, MY GUESS IS IT'S GOING TO COME DOWN TO A LEGAL DISPUTE.
BUT I DON'T HAVE THAT ANSWER FOR YOU.
>> YOU'RE ALREADY $61,000 AHEAD.
IF WE'D HAD THAT MONEY, WE'D TOUCH MUCH MORE.
>> I UNDERSTAND WHERE YOU'RE COMING FROM.
BUT THERE WAS A DEFINED AMOUNT THAT WE KNEW THAT WAS OUT THERE WITH SNAG-A-SLIP AT THE TIME THAT THEY BASICALLY CLOSED THEIR DOORS AND EVERYTHING OUTSIDE OF THAT, WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO CAPTURE.
>> I WAS GOING TO MENTION, I KNOW WE'VE GOT THE LONGER AND LONGER WAITING LIST.
WE'VE GOT SOME DOCKS THAT ARE GOING AWAY FOR TEMPORARILY.
WE HAD TALKED ABOUT ADDING THE MOORING BALLS THAT WERE MISSING BACK. IS THAT STILL?
>> IT IS. WE'RE IN THE PROCESS.
WE HAVE A DIVE OPERATION THAT IS SURVEYING THE 12 THAT ARE OUT THERE BECAUSE WE DID HAVE A SHACKLE COME FREE, AND WE ACTUALLY HAD A 50-FOOT VESSEL THAT HAD RELEASED FROM THE MOORING.
THE DIVER IS GOING THROUGH EVALUATING THE 12 THAT ARE OUT THERE, RE-SECURING ALL THE SHACKLES, TAKING AN EQUIPMENT INVENTORY, WHICH HE WILL BE SUPPLYING TO US TO ACQUIRE NEW SHACKLES, NEW COMPONENTS FOR THE MOORING SYSTEMS. HE WILL THEN GO BACK AND REINSTALL THOSE.
WE ALSO HAVE TWO PENNANTS, WHICH WILL BE NUMBER 13 AND 14, WHICH WILL THEN BE REINSTALLED.
THEN NEXT YEAR, 2027, WE'RE BUDGETING TO PUT BACK THE OTHER I THINK IT WAS SIX OR SEVEN THAT ARE MISSING AT THIS POINT IN TIME OF WHICH WE DON'T HAVE THE PENDANTS.
BUT BY NEXT YEAR, WE'RE LOOKING TO HAVE 20-21 BACK IN ACTION.
>> ONE MORE QUESTION ABOUT THE NO SMOKING.
I NOTICE THEY'RE ON ALL THE DISPENSERS, BUT IS THERE ANY WAY THAT ALL COULD PUT ONE AT THE BOTTOM OF THE RAMP ON THE NEW PART THAT YOU MADE? BECAUSE IF THEY'RE WALKING DOWN THE RAMP, THEY'RE RIGHT BY A FUEL DISPENSER.
IF YOU PUT IT RIGHT THERE ON THE NEW RAMP THERE THAT YOU DO A 90, BUT WHEN THEY'RE WALKING DOWN, THEY SEE NO SMOKING.
>> RIGHT THERE AT THAT LANDING WHERE THEY MAKE THAT TURN OR THEY GO TO THE RIGHT?
YOU HAVE ANYBODY THROWING A CIGARETTE BUTT SOMEWHERE, ESPECIALLY CLOSE TO THE FIREPLACE.
>> THE CIGARETTES AND THE CIGARS FOR THOSE THAT AREN'T FAMILIAR WITH AND THE FACT THAT IT'S A WORKING DOCK, I DON'T WANT TO BEAT A DEAD HORSE, BUT IT IS SOMETHING THAT WE HAVE TO REMIND PEOPLE THAT IT IS A NON-SMOKING AREA.
WE CAN ABSOLUTELY LOOK THROUGH THAT. THAT'S AN EASY FIX.
>> DO YOU WANT TO BRING IT UP?
THE PUBLIC HAS ALWAYS BEEN ABLE TO WALK AT THAT MARINA EVER SINCE I WAS A KID.
I THINK WE NEED TO COME UP WITH A TIME WHERE THE PUBLIC AND THE WEATHER IS NICE ENOUGH THAT THEY DO HAVE ACCESS TO THAT BREAKWATER.
IT'S PUBLIC FUNDED, AND IT'S ALWAYS BEEN PUBLIC ACCESS.
I DON'T KNOW WHEN THAT ONE SIGN GOT PUT UP THERE, BUT I DO KNOW THAT WE NEED TO CLOSE IT AT LEAST.
AFTER SUNSET, EVERYBODY'S OFF THE TOP.
MOST OF THEM IF THEY'RE DOWN THERE, THEY DON'T NEED TO BE.
>> THE ACCESS GATE TO THAT AREA IS CLOSED AT THE TIME IN WHICH MARINA OPERATIONS CEASE FOR THE EVENING.
SOMETIMES THAT IS BEFORE SUNSET, DEPENDING ON THE TIME OF YEAR.
WE DON'T HAVE STAFF PRESENT AT THAT POINT IN TIME TO WAIT, WAIT AND KEEP A GATE OPEN.
ONCE WE ARE DONE WITH OUR OPERATIONS, WE CLOSE THAT GATE FOR SAFETY AND SECURITY PURPOSES.
>> WELL, I'M A RULES FOLLOWER, AND WHEN I SEE THAT SIGN, I WALKED AFTER TALKING WITH YOU.
SINCE I DON'T LIVE THERE ANYMORE, I HAVEN'T BEEN DOWN AS MUCH.
BUT THE PEOPLE WHO ARE RULES FOLLOWERS, GIVES YOU, I DON'T KNOW, DOESN'T MAKE YOU FEEL GOOD.
BUT I DO THINK, AND I WISH THAT CITY ATTORNEY WAS STILL HERE.
I WAS HOPING SHE'D BE HERE FOR THIS SPECIFIC PART.
LEGALLY AS A CITY, AS FAR AS SIGNAGE GOES, HOW DOES THAT WORK? IS IT BASED ON THE MANAGER, DOES THE MANAGER GET TO DECIDE? I JUST FEEL LIKE SOMETHING NEEDS TO BE IN WRITING, SOMEHOW.
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IF WE DO NEED TO ADD MORE BOUNDARIES BECAUSE OF THE LIABILITY.MY DAUGHTER ACTUALLY HAS FALLEN OFF THAT DOCK.
SHE WASN'T LOOKING, SHE FELL OFF.
LIABILITY DOES MAKE ME NERVOUS FOR THE CITY.
WE CAN'T EVEN HAVE HEXAGON PAVERS, FOR GOODNESS SAKE.
>> CAN YOU BRING THAT SIGN BACK UP SO WE CAN READ IT VERY CLOSE.
I JUST FEEL LIKE IF WE'RE GOING TO HAVE LIMITATIONS, WHERE IS IT IN WRITING SOMEWHERE IN THE SCROLLS OF FERNANDINA?
>> THERE'S NOT A CODE NUMBER ON THAT SIGN, SO THAT WAS JUST PUT UP THERE, SO THAT COULD BE TAKEN DOWN.
I DON'T SEE A CITY CODE WHERE IT'S IN WRITING.
>> IF YOU DON'T HAVE ANY DOCUMENTATION, I DON'T SEE WHY THE SIGN CAN.
>> CAN'T GO AWAY. I PERSONALLY WAS UNABLE TO FIND ANY DOCUMENTATION.
I'VE BEEN IN THE ROLE FOR FIVE MONTHS.
SO WHETHER I AM OVERLOOKING AN AVENUE THAT HAS THAT DOCUMENTATION, I DON'T KNOW, BUT PERSONALLY, I'VE BEEN UNABLE TO LOCATE ANY DOCUMENTATION REGARDING THAT SPECIFIC SIGN.
>> I JUST THINK THAT MIGHT HAVE BEEN JUST INTERNAL RULE MAKING.
>> WELL, AND THAT'S THE THING.
YOU DO NEED TO HAVE A SAY IF THERE'S SOMETHING THAT YOU'RE SEEING THAT IS A PROBLEM AND YOU NEED TO HAVE A SYSTEM.
I DON'T KNOW. HAS THE CITY ATTORNEY.
>> I'M HAPPY TO DO SOME RESEARCH FOR YOU AND BRING IT BACK NEXT MONTH.
>> BECAUSE WE COULD JUST PUT IT DOWN.
IF IT'S INCLEMENT, WEATHER, THAT'S YOUR CALL, AND YOU COULD PUT IT, CLOSE THAT THING BECAUSE OF INCLEMENT WEATHER.
THAT'S IS THE OPERATOR'S DEAL WITH INCLEMENT WEATHER, DANGER BECAUSE OF HIGH WINDS AND STUFF.
I CAN SEE THAT, BUT FOREVER THAT HAS BEEN FERNANDINA AND MARINA, THEY'VE ALWAYS HAD ACCESS TO IT, THE PUBLIC HAS, BECAUSE IT IS PAID BY THE CITY PEOPLE.
>> IF THAT'S TRUE, THOUGH, THE PROBLEM IS, THEY CAN'T EVER PUT GATES ON IT EVEN FOR NIGHTTIME.
I DO FEEL LIKE THERE NEEDS TO BE.
>> I'D SAY BY NINE O'CLOCK, CLOSE IT, LOCK IT.
I LIKE THIS ANALOGY ABOUT SIDEWALK.
MY HOUSE AT THE CORNER SEVENTH AND CEDAR.
SHE IS CLOSER TO MY HOUSE THAN ANYBODY IN HERE.
SO THERE'S NO PROTECTION, NO CLOSURE, MY SIDEWALK.
I DON'T THINK WE OUGHT TO CLOSE THE MARINA. I'M WITH ALLEN.
GROWING UP, WE TRAP UP AND DOWN THAT WHOLE THING 24/7. I UNDERSTAND.
I THINK ON OCCASIONS, YOU MIGHT HAVE TO CLOSE IT.
RARELY SHOULD THOSE THINGS BE CLOSED.
>> THEY CLOSE IT DURING THE HURRICANES AND ALL THAT.
IF HE THINKS HIS EMPLOYEES ARE DANGER WITH THE WINDS AND ALL THAT.
I JUST DON'T THINK IT SHOULD BE CLOSED AS A PUBLIC ACCESS.
IF I'VE GOT A $50 MILLION YACHT, THEN SOMEBODY HAS GOT SECURITY ON THAT YACHT.
THAT'S NOT GOING TO LET GREG ROLAND CLIMB UP ON THAT YACHT.
WE DON'T OWE THAT BIG YACHT A PRIVATE-GATED ACCESS AT ALL.
I JUST DON'T THINK IT'S WORTH.
I DON'T HAVE GATED ACCESS ON MY STREET.
>> MY TWO SENSES, AND I'M SORRY, JON, BUT SAME THING AS PETER'S POINT, YOU HAVE TO BE A COUNTY RESIDENT TO DRIVE OUT THAT'S COUNTY, NOT THE CITY, BUT THAT AT LEAST WOULD LIMIT SOMETHING.
BUT THEN I KNOW YOU'VE GOT GUESTS THAT WANT TO VISIT AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
BUT I DID HAVE PEOPLE CRAWLING UP MY ENTIRE TUNA TOWER, AND IT WAS SCARY AT NIGHT, LIVING ON THE BOAT AND PEOPLE THAT SHOULDN'T BE THERE, AND THAT'S WHEN WE WERE ROBBED.
>> ANY MORE QUESTIONS FOR CHRIS BEFORE I JUMP IN HERE?
>> NO. I THINK I JUST HE NEEDS A PROCESS TO BE ABLE TO MAKE THESE DECISIONS IN WRITING.
>> IS THERE TO BE PUBLIC COMMENT ON THIS? I KNOW, I THINK THERE'S SOME PEOPLE HERE THAT WANT TO TALK ON.
DO YOU ALL WANT PUBLIC COMMENT ON THIS ITEM?
>> THEY ALREADY TALKED EARLIER ABOUT.
>> I DIDN'T KNOW. THEY WERE STILL HERE AND THERE'S CHATTER, SO I DIDN'T KNOW IF THEY HAD ANYTHING ELSE TO SAY OR ADD ON THIS.
>> I ASKED TO BE ABLE TO SPEAK AFTER STAFF THAT PRESENTED.
>> I CAN ADD A LITTLE BIT TO THIS FOR CONTEXT.
THE SIGNAGE WENT UP AROUND 2023 WHEN THE MARINA GATES WERE INSTALLED.
THIS IS UNDER CHARLIE GEORGE AND THE PRIOR COMMISSION.
THAT'S WHEN THE SIGNAGE WENT IN THERE, AND SOME NEW SECURITY MEASURES WENT INTO PLACE BECAUSE OF THE NUMBER OF THE CONCERNS THAT YOU MENTIONED, FROM VANDALISM TO THINGS BEING TAKEN FROM BOATS, TO PEOPLE FALLING OFF THE DOCKS, THINGS LIKE THAT.
THE CITY'S POSITION CURRENTLY IS TO SUPPORT THE MARINA OPERATORS' RECOMMENDATION TO SECURE THE FACILITY WHEN THEY LEAVE.
AS GLENN MENTIONED EARLIER IN HIS PROJECT UPDATE, THE ENTIRE OPERATION OF THE MARINA, THE LAYOUT, THE REBUILD OF THAT DOCK, AND THE SECURITY MEASURES THAT WILL GO INTO PLACE WILL BE A POINT OF DISCUSSION THAT WILL COME BACK, NO DOUBT TO THIS BOARD.
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BUT ONCE THE DEMOLITION, THE RECONSTRUCTION COMES BACK, ACCESS AS WE MOVE INTO NEWER TECHNOLOGY WILL BE A POINT OF CONVERSATION.BUT AS OF NOW, THE CITY SUPPORTS THE MARINA OPERATOR'S POSITION TO SECURE THE FACILITY ONCE THEY LEAVE, IT'S NO DIFFERENT THAN ANY OF THE OTHER CITY FACILITIES THAT ARE SECURE ONCE STAFF DEPARTS, WHETHER IT'S THIS BUILDING, WHETHER IT'S RESTROOMS, AT VARIOUS PARKS, WHETHER IT'S DRIVING ON THE BEACH AT DUSK.
YES, IT'S PUBLIC SPACE, BUT IT ALSO HAS TO BE SECURED.
THAT'S THE POSITION OF THE CITY AT THIS TIME, OF COURSE, THIS BOARD, AS JUST SHOWN EARLIER.
THE PURPOSE OF THIS BOARD IS TO ADVISE THE CITY COMMISSION.
SO THIS IS IMPORTANT TOPIC THAT YOU WANT THE CITY COMMISSION TO CONSIDER.
WE COULD TAKE A VOTE TO DO THAT.
SPEAKING OF A POSITION THAT YOU'VE ALL TAKEN, YOU JUST TOOK A VOTE ON THE PROPERTY RIGHT HERE, THE MARLBOROUGH BUILDING, AND THE COMMISSION WILL BE MEETING AT THE VISIONING SESSION HERE FEBRUARY 12, AND WE'RE GOING TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT TOPIC, WHICH HAS ALREADY BEEN DISCUSSED SOME, IS GOING TO BE DISCUSSED AT THAT MEETING.
I DO WANT TO WEIGH IN ON SOMETHING THAT JENNY SAID.
I KNOW THERE'S A SENSE OF DEFEATISM SOMETIMES BECAUSE RECOMMENDATIONS THAT ARE MADE AREN'T NECESSARILY HEARD OR ARE FOLLOWED THROUGH ON.
BUT I WOULD LIKE TO SAY THE IDEA OF BUYING THAT PROPERTY LARGELY CAME FROM THE FORMER CRA BOARD, AND WITHOUT YOU ALL SAYING ANYTHING FURTHER, THAT IS A TOPIC THAT WAS GOING TO BE DISCUSSED AT THE VISIONING SESSION, AND THERE'S INTEREST IN THAT PROPERTY.
A BIT DELAYED, BUT IT'S CARRIED THROUGH AND THAT IDEA WASN'T LOST OR REJECTED.
IT WAS MAYBE RECEIVED SOMEWHAT SLOWLY, BUT THAT HAS BEEN INTEREST THERE AS THE CONVERSATION OF PETTY PARKING AND ALL THAT RELATED TO THAT HAS CONTINUED.
SO DON'T GIVE UP, IS WHAT I'M GETTING AT.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS RELATED TO THAT? IF NOT, THAT'S JUST A LITTLE ADDITIONAL INFORMATION THAT MIGHT HELP YOU IN YOUR DECISION.
>> I THINK JUST TO GO BACK TO CONTRACTUALLY OR JUST SOMETHING IN WRITING.
WE HEAR THE PUBLIC COMING AND GIVING THEIR CONCERNS.
IS THERE ANY DIRECTION IN WRITING, NOT JUST SAYING, I APPRECIATE I WISH YOU WERE HERE SOMETIMES EARLIER.
>> I MISSED THE LAST MEETING, AND I APOLOGIZE. I DIDN'T KNOW.
I HEARD THAT IT WAS GOING TO COME UP AGAIN, BUT I WASN'T HERE FOR THE LAST MEETING.
THE CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE HAS PROVIDED SUPPORT IN WRITING, SO THAT IS IN WRITING ABOUT SECURING THIS UPON DEPARTURE.
OF COURSE, NOW, THE WEATHER, THE SEASON IS MORE IN FAVOR BECAUSE WHEN THE MARINA IS LEAVING, THE FACILITY IS DARK.
THERE'S NOT MUCH TIME FOR SUNSET BY THE TIME MARINAS LEFT, BUT COME HERE IN A FEW MONTHS SINCE TIME CHANGES, THEN THAT'S GOING TO CHANGE.
THEY'LL BE LEAVING WELL BEFORE.
SO WE KNOW THIS CONVERSATIONS NOT CONCLUDING HERE.
>> I THINK THE BIGGEST CONCERN IS THIS SIGN IN PARTICULAR.
>> THAT SIGN WAS DISCUSSED WITH THE CITY ATTORNEY.
SHE DIDN'T WAIT ANY FORMAL OPINION, BUT SHE APPROVED OF WHAT WAS THERE.
WHEN WE DISCUSSED CHANGING THE SIGNAGE, WHAT WAS EXISTING VERBAL CONVERSATION WAS MET THE NEEDS FROM HER PERSPECTIVE AT THE TIME.
THAT'S NOT SAYING THERE'S NOT A WAY TO FIND IMPROVED LANGUAGE OR REVISIT IT WITH HER, BUT THAT EXISTING SIGNAGE WAS OKAY WITH HER.
>> I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE HAVE THE MARINA OPEN FROM THE TIME THEY START AND HAVE IT CLOSED TO PUBLIC AT NINE O'CLOCK AFTER SUNSET AND TAKE THAT SIGN DOWN.
DURING THE DAY, THE CITIZENS OF FERNANDINA BEACH OR THE VISITORS TO FERNANDINA BEACH HAVE THE RIGHT TO WALK THAT DOCK AND LOOK AT THE WATER AND THE DOLPHIN SWIM AND JUST AS WELL AS THEY DO AT THE BEACH.
>> IT'S INCLEMENT WEATHER, THEN IT IS HAZARD TO HEALTH AND ALL THAT, THEY CLOSE IT.
>> MOST PEOPLE, IF YOU GO DOWN AND WEATHER IS BAD [OVERLAPPING].
>> THEY'RE NOT GOING TO BE DOWN THERE ON THAT WATER.
>> TO DATE, YOU'D HAVE ONE OR TWO, BUT NOT VERY MANY.
>> BOAT OWNERS ONLY TODAY, BECAUSE YOU COULD GET SOAKED IN BETWEEN BOATS.
>> I FEEL PERSONALLY, THAT WAS FMA DOLLARS, WHICH THE WHOLE COUNTRY POURED MONEY INTO FMA.
I THINK YOU SHOULD BE ABLE TO GO DOWN ON IT.
[NOISE] IF YOU WANT TO CLOSE IT DOWN AFTER HOURS, IT'S FINE, IF EVERYBODY'S HAPPY WITH THAT, BUT I THINK IT SHOULD BE OPEN DUE TO PUBLIC. THAT'S JUST [INAUDIBLE]
>> MEMBER KOCH. FOR CLARIFICATION OF THE MOTION, YOU WANT THIS TO GO TO COMMISSION.
IS THAT WHAT YOU ASK YOUR MOTION TO GO TO THE COMMISSION FOR CONSIDERATION?
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>> WHEN THEY OPEN UP UNTIL NINE O'CLOCK AT NIGHT, THEY JUST OPEN TO THE PUBLIC.
THE POLICE WALK DOWN THERE NOW AND THEY SEARCH IT, THEY WALK IT, THEY CHECK IT, THEY CAN CLOSE IT AT NINE O'CLOCK.
I'LL GIVE THEM MORE REASON TO BE THERE AT 9:00 O'CLOCK.
AS THE SUN STARTS SETTING TO THE SOUTH EAST, THEY'RE GOING TO GO TO THE NEW PARK.
BUT IN THE MEANTIME, THAT DOCK, WHEN THE SUN SETS TO THE NORTHEAST, THEY CAN USE THE DOCK BETTER. ASK MA'AM.
>> WHAT TIME DO STAFF LEAVE THOUGH TO CLOSE? IS IT NINE O'CLOCK?
>> CAN'T THE POLICE CLOSE IT AT 9:00?
>> THE POLICE CAN CLOSE IT. THAT GIVES THEM A REASON TO GO WALK IN THE MARINA.
ALL THAT DOES PULL THE DOCK DOOR CLOSE.
WALK DOWN THERE AND MAKE SURE NOBODY'S THERE.
THEY WALK THE MARINA IN THE MORNINGS AND ALL THAT, THEY CAN WALK IT AT NINE O'CLOCK, TOO.
A RECOMMENDATION FOR THE COMMISSIONERS.
THAT'LL HELP OUT WITH SECURITY TOO.
THE MORE POLICE PRESENT DOWN THERE, THE BETTER WE'RE GOING TO BE.
IT'S JUST LIKE THEY HAD A VANDALISM AT THE PIRATE SHIP THAT I KNOW YOU ALL ALL SAW THE VIDEO OF IT.
IT HAPPENS UP THERE, NOT ONLY ON THE DOCKS, BUT IT HAPPENS UP ON AND TOO.
THE MORE PRESENCE OF THE POLICE IN THAT AREA, THE BETTER WE ALL CITIZENS ARE.
>> AS LONG AS WE CONTACT THEM WITH DOING THAT, I DON'T KNOW HOW THAT WORKS.
IT'S HARD FOR ME TO PUT THAT IN.
>> I WISH THERE WASN'T WAITING.
>> WE GOT A FIRST AND A SECOND.
>> WE NEED PUBLIC COMMENT BEFORE ALL VOTE.
>> PLEASE THINK REALLY QUICKLY.
>> I'VE PUT A LOT OF THOUGHT INTO THIS TINA KRISTENER, 406 BEACH STREET.
THE BOAT OWNERS THAT ARE CONCERNED.
WHY DON'T WE JUST PUT SIGNAGE DOWN ON THE DOCK THAT SAYS, "PLEASE BE RESPECTFUL.
CAMERAS ARE WATCHING." WE DON'T EVEN NEED CAMERAS, I'M GUESSING.
WE CAN RUN THAT PAST THE CITY ATTORNEY, BUT I THINK THAT WOULD STOP A LOT OF THAT.
MS SCHAFFER, I'M SO SORRY TO HEAR YOUR DAUGHTER FELL INTO THE WATER.
THAT'S AWFUL, AND IT'S VERY DANGEROUS.
BUT AT THE TIME, I THINK YOU WERE PROBABLY A BOAT OWNER.
IT DOESN'T JUST HAPPEN TO PEOPLE THAT ARE WALKING DOWN THERE.
BOAT OWNERS ALSO HAVE ACCIDENTS.
THAT WOULDN'T HAVE PREVENTED THAT FROM HAPPENING, AND I'M SORRY THAT DID HAPPEN. BUT THANK YOU.
>> YES. PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND YOUR ADDRESS.
WHEN THE COPS PUSH BACK ON THAT IDEA, BECAUSE THEY PROBABLY WILL, THE REST ROOM STAFF, WHEN DO THEY LOCK THE REST ROOMS DOWNTOWN? THAT'S PROBABLY NINE, TEN O'CLOCK AT NIGHT.
ALSO, ELECTRONIC LOCKS ON THE GATES, IF YOU HAVE A GATE THAT SWINGS OPEN AND AUTOMATICALLY COMES BACK TO CLOSE, YOU CAN SIT ON ELECTRONIC LOCK THAT WOULD CLOSE AT NINE O'CLOCK AND WOULD LOCK IT. THANK YOU.
>> YEAH. JUST TO CLARIFY, MEMBER MILLS MADE A MOTION THAT THE MARINA DOCKS BE OPEN TO THE PUBLIC FROM THE TIME MARINA STAFF ARRIVES UNTIL 9:00 PM.
I'LL CALL THE ROLE. MEMBER KOCH.
[8.2 PROPERTY MATRIX]
>> AS ALWAYS, THIS IS IN YOUR AGENDA PACKET.
I JUMPED THE GUN AND INCORRECTLY STATED OR MARKED ON HERE THAT ONE PROPERTY, [INAUDIBLE] HAD SOLD.
IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING, IT DIDN'T CLOSE.
YOU GOT UPDATES THIS EVENING ON BRETT'S ATLANTIC SEAFOOD.
AGAIN, A LOT OF THIS INFORMATION WAS ALREADY SHARED IN THE PROJECT UPDATES.
REALLY THE ONLY THING THAT I DID WANT TO SHARE IS IN THE NEXT COUPLE OF MONTHS, WILL COME BEFORE YOU.
WE DID RECEIVE A FIRST STEP APPLICATION FOR THE, REFERRED TO AS A SIMMONS OSTENS PROPERTY.
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SO THERE IS AN APPLICATION AND THE STAFF WILL NOW BE REVIEWING.I'VE MET WITH GLENN, MYSELF AND PLANNING STAFF TO TALK ABOUT HOW THAT WORKS WITH THE SEAWALL.
IT'S EXCITING THAT THEY'VE ACTUALLY GOT AN APPLICATION IN.
WE'RE STARTING DISCUSSIONS ON WHAT DEVELOPMENT OF THAT PROPERTY COULD LOOK LIKE HERE IN THE FUTURE.
THE PLAN IS TO, AS IT GETS MORE FLUSHED OUT, BRING IT BEFORE YOU GUYS FOR MORE AWARENESS OF WHAT'S GOING ON AND HOW IT FITS INTO THE OVERALL PLAN.
>> THAT PROPERTY'S OUTSIDE THE CRA.
>> NO, SIR. IT'S JUST NORTH PARK.
>> I'M THINKING ABOUT [INAUDIBLE].
SORRY, MY BAD. THINKING ABOUT [INAUDIBLE].
>> STANDARD MARINE BID GOT IN FINALLY.
>> STANDARD MARINE BID. TALK TO HIM TOMORROW.
>> WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO PUT THERE?
>> I WANT TO SHARE. WE'RE JUST SAVING THE BUILDING RIGHT NOW.
>> JUST TRYING TO CLEAN IT UP.
>> NOT A BAD EXAMPLE. BOARD MEMBER REPORTS, COMMENTS.
[9. BOARD MEMBER REPORTS/COMMENTS]
>> NEXT TIME WITH AT LEAST ONE PROJECT YOU ARE PASSIONATE ABOUT.
>> AT LEAST ONE. DON'T SHOW UP. I'M JUST KIDDING.
>> MY DAUGHTER'S HAVING A BABY.
>> CONGRATULATIONS. NEXT MEETING DATE,
[10. NEXT MEETING DATE]
FEBRUARY 23, 6:00 PM.WRITE IT DOWN. WITH THAT, MEETING IS ADJOURNED.
>> THANK YOU.
* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.