>> I'D LIKE TO CALL TO [1. CALL TO ORDER] [00:00:04] ORDER THE PARKS AND RECREATION ADVISORY COMMITTEE REGULAR MEETING, SCHEDULED FOR JANUARY THE 13TH, 2026. PLEASE CALL THE ROLL. >> SORRY. MEMBER SNYDER? >> HERE. >> MEMBER SPAULDING? MEMBER PEARLSTINE? >> YES. >> MEMBER COCCHI? >> HERE. >> CHAIR CAMERA? >> HERE. >> VICE CHAIR MOUNTJOY? >> HERE. >> MEMBER CURRY? >> HERE. >> MEMBER GUNN? >> HERE. >> MEMBER PELICAN? >> HERE. >> PLEASE STAND FOR THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE. >> >> ITEM 4.1, DECEMBER 2025 REGULAR MEETING. [4. APPROVAL OF MINUTES] I'D LIKE TO GET APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES, UNLESS SOMEBODY HAS ANYTHING ELSE. >> I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE MINUTES AS SUBMITTED. >> SECOND. >> ALL IN FAVOR? >> AYE. >> NUMBER 5, PUBLIC COMMENTS RECORDED TIMES NOT ON THE AGENDA. [5. PUBLIC COMMENT REGARDING ITMES NOT ON THE AGENDA] I HAVE ONE PERSON THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK. LAUREL STRONG? >> YES. CAN I SPEAK FROM HERE? >> PLEASE COME TO THE PODIUM, AND PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME, FOR THE RECORD, AND YOUR ADDRESS. >> MY NAME IS LAUREL STRONG, AND I LIVE AT 914 DIVISION STREET IN FERNANDINA BEACH. I'VE COME TO ASK A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS. I KNOW THE CITY IS HAVING SOME CONCERNS ABOUT MONEY. I'M WONDERING HOW THIS COMMITTEE OR HOW THE CITY DETERMINES WHAT FEES ARE CHARGED FOR EITHER USING THE POOL OR PARK OR WHAT HAVE YOU, WHATEVER THE CITY HAS TO RENT, AND WHAT IS THE GOAL OF THESE FEES? DO YOU HAVE THIS INFORMATION? DO YOU HAVE A GOAL FOR YOUR FEES? WHAT IS IT TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH, AND HOW ARE YOU DETERMINING HOW THESE FEES ARE SET? THAT'S JUST QUESTIONS. >> LET ME GIVE YOU AN ANSWER. >> SURE. >> SCOTT, WOULD YOU PLEASE APPROACH. >> SCOTT MIKELSON, DIRECTOR OF PARKS AND RECREATION. EVERY YEAR, WE GO THROUGH THE PROCESS OF SETTING A FEE SCHEDULE THAT IS GIVEN TO THE COMMISSION, AND IT IS APPROVED THROUGH THE COMMISSION THROUGH AN ORDINANCE, AND THOSE ARE THE FEES THAT WE CHARGE. WE DO NOT HAVE A PERCENTAGE PER SE, A COST RECOVERY PERCENTAGE THAT HAS NOT BEEN NECESSARILY ONE OF OUR GOALS. WE DO STRIVE TO MAKE IT OBTAINABLE FOR PEOPLE TO USE OUR FACILITIES THROUGHOUT THE CITY, SO WE DO TRY TO COVER SOME OF THOSE COSTS THAT ARE ASSOCIATED. SOME PROGRAMS ARE COVERED COMPLETELY. SOME PROGRAMS, WE DO LOSE MONEY. THE AQUATICS FACILITY RUNNING A POOL, THE MAJORITY OF POOLS ACROSS MOST COMMUNITIES WILL LOSE MONEY. BUT WE DO NOT NECESSARILY HAVE A DIRECT PERCENTAGE THAT WE HAVE BEEN INSTRUCTED TO RECOVER? >> DOES THAT ANSWER YOUR QUESTION? >> IT JUST BRINGS MORE CONCERNS, BUT IT ANSWERS A QUESTION, BUT THEN AS I SAID, IT BRINGS MORE CONCERNS. WHY AREN'T THERE GOALS? IF YOU'RE GOING TO CHARGE FEES, SHOULDN'T THERE BE A PURPOSE? IF YOU'RE GOING TO CHARGE $30, WHY? IF YOU'RE GOING TO CHARGE A CITY PERSON $30, WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO CHARGE A COUNTY PERSON OR SOMEONE WHO DOESN'T LIVE IN AND WHY? THAT'S WHAT I'M LOOKING FOR. WHY? >> CAN I JUMP IN HERE? MS. STRONG, WE HAD SOME DISCUSSIONS. I CAN'T REMEMBER WHEN IT WAS. IT WAS SEVERAL MONTHS AGO. >> WATCH YOURSELF. >> [OVERLAPPING] I GUESS IT WAS AT THE END OF THE SUMMER WHEN WE WERE LOOKING AT THE PROPOSED FEES FOR THE YEAR BECAUSE THE COMMISSION SETS THOSE. ANYTIME THEY MAKE A CHANGE TO THOSE, THEY VOTE ON THEM. THEY HAVE TO DO THAT IN A PUBLIC MEETING, AND IT'S VOTED UPON. THE OFFERINGS MOSTLY FOR PARKS AND REC, [00:05:03] THEY'RE NOT A BUSINESS, LIKE THE GOLF IS A BUSINESS. THE GOLF CLUB IS A REVENUE FUND, AND SO THEIR GOAL IS TO NOT ONLY OFFSET WHAT THEY'RE SPENDING, BUT TO MAKE MONEY. THE OTHER AMENITIES THAT ARE PROVIDED ARE PROVIDED AS A RESOURCE TO THE COMMUNITY, BUT THERE ARE SOME COSTS ASSOCIATED WITH IT, AND WE DO HAVE SOME FEES FOR SOME THINGS. MY SUGGESTION, AND I THINK IT WAS AGREED WITH A LOT OF PEOPLE HERE, IS THAT WE LOOK AT THAT MORE CLOSELY SO THAT WE DO HAVE A DATA-DRIVEN FORMULA TO DETERMINE WHAT THOSE FEES SHOULD BE, AND THAT WE SHOULD HAVE, IN MY OPINION, MORE OF A DIFFERENTIAL OF WHAT WE CHARGE CITY RESIDENTS WHO ARE ALREADY PAYING TAXES TO HAVE HIGHER FEES. FOR INSTANCE, I PLAYED TENNIS. IT WAS $15 FOR A CITY RESIDENT, $18 FOR A COUNTY RESIDENT. MOST OF THAT MONEY GOES TO PAY THE PRO TO OFFSET THAT COST, BUT I FELT LIKE THAT WASN'T VERY MUCH OF A DIFFERENTIAL WHEN I'M ALREADY PAYING A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF TAXES OR CITY RESIDENTS. I DO THINK THAT THAT'S A PLACE THAT WE SEE SOME OPPORTUNITY TO LOOK AT AND THAT WE SHOULD BE LOOKING AT PLACES WHERE MAYBE WE ARE NOT CHARGING FEES AND MAYBE WE SHOULD BE. I APPRECIATE YOUR COMMENTS. >> THANK YOU. I JUST HAVE ONE THING, AND I DON'T WANT TO TAKE IT OUT OF ORDER, BUT MR. MURRAY? >> YES, SIR. >> WOULD YOU PLEASE COME UP TO THE PODIUM? THANK YOU. >> SORRY, I WAS LATE. WOULD YOU PASS THESE DOWN. >> YOU BET. >> LEE MURRAY, 2752 1ST AVENUE, FERNANDINA BEACH. I THINK TOM SAID SOMETHING TO ME WHEN WE SAW YOU AT THE RIVER THAT YOU SAID COME ON OVER, AND YOU CAN TALK ABOUT THE FRIENDS FOR A FEW MINUTES OR SOMETHING. [NOISE] WHAT YOU'RE SEEING IS A BROCHURE THAT WE PREPARED FOR OUR ANNUAL FUNDRAISER [BACKGROUND] LAST MARCH, AND IT SHOWS OUR MISSION STATEMENT, THE PROJECTS THAT WE HAD ACCOMPLISHED UP UNTIL LAST MARCH. SINCE THEN, WE HAD ANOTHER TREE TRIMMING WEEK WHERE 25, 30 VOLUNTEERS TRIM BRANCHES, WHICH IS CRITICAL FOR THE GOLF COURSE TO LET THE SUN SHINE IN, AND WE GROW MORE GRASS. THE COURSE IS LOOKING GREAT. I HOPE NOBODY HAS ANY DESIGNS ON DOING ANYTHING MAJOR TO THE GOLF COURSE OTHER THAN IMPROVING IT. IT'S A GEM, AND IT'S ONLY GETTING BETTER SINCE MR. BIGGERS GOT OUT HERE. [NOISE] FRIENDS, I HAVE ABOUT 146 PEOPLE, AND I'VE ADDED ALL OF YOU TO MY EMAIL LIST. BASICALLY, RIGHT NOW, OUR PROJECT IS TO REPAIR THE STARTER SHACK. IT'S GOING TO COST US ABOUT 5,000-$6,000, AND WE HAVE ABOUT 9,000 IN THE BANK. WE LOOK FOR THINGS THAT ARE VERY FIRST IMPRESSIONS BECAUSE THAT'S WHERE PEOPLE MAKE THEIR DECISION. THE STARTER SHACK IS OLD, IT'S RUSTY. WE'RE GETTING NEW BIG METAL DOORS, AND WINDOWS. IT'S BEING HELD UP BY SUPPLY, SO WE CAN'T DO ANYTHING UNTIL THE COMPANY GETS THEM IN. BUT WE MEET ABOUT ONCE A MONTH. I'VE GOT THE RIGHT-HAND MAN, NAMED GARY BRIEN. HE'S A DOER. I SET OUT A MEETING NOTICE, AND HE SAID, "I'M GOING TO BE OUT OF TOWN." I IMMEDIATELY CHANGED THE DATE, I SAID, BECAUSE I NEED YOU THERE. YOU'RE MY RIGHT AND LEFT-HAND MAN. WE HAVE SOME OTHER PEOPLE ON THE BOARD THAT ARE GREAT TOO, BUT WE'RE VERY INFORMAL. WE WORK CLOSELY WITH JEFFREY, AND SCOTT. JEFFREY MIGHT COME UP WITH AN IDEA, AND WE MAY LIKE IT, WE MIGHT NOT LIKE IT. LAST YEAR, WE DID 45 BIRD BOXES ON THE GOLF COURSE. PEOPLE DONATED $35 AND THEY GET THEIR NAME ON A BLUE BIRD BOX, AND WE WERE PRETTY HAPPY WITH THAT. YOU'LL SEE A LIST OF OTHER THINGS THAT WE'VE DONE, LITTLE THINGS, BIG THINGS. THE TREE TRIMMING IS JUST AN ENORMOUS PROJECT THAT IS EXTREMELY NOTICEABLE. YOU DRIVE ON YOUR CARTS OR YOU WALK, AND WE COULD TREE TRIM EVERY DAY FOR A YEAR, 275 ACRES. [00:10:03] THAT'S A LOT OF BRANCHES THAT HAVE NEVER BEEN LOOKED AT. >> WAIT. YOU'VE MENTIONED THAT [OVERLAPPING] FROM PROJECT THAT YOU DID. SORRY, GO ON. >> I'M SORRY. WHAT IS IT? >> THANK YOU. GO AHEAD, MR. MURRAY. >> THAT'S PRETTY MUCH IT. WHAT HAPPENED IS I SERVED ON THE GOLF COURSE ADVISORY BOARD FOR ABOUT THREE OR FOUR YEARS WITH JOHN, AND I CAME TO FIND OUT IT WAS REALLY JUST A LISTENING BOARD. THE CITY COMMISSIONERS DIDN'T REALLY LISTEN TO US. WE VOTED TO KEEP CASPER MANAGEMENT, AND CASPER DIDN'T DO ANY FAVORS TO US FOR 10 YEARS. BUT I WANTED TO KEEP HIM BECAUSE I LIKED STEVE. I THOUGHT HE WAS GOOD, HE JUST HE NEEDED GUIDELINES, AND RULES AND THINGS TO MEET. CITY COMMISSION SAID, "NO, WE'LL TAKE IT OVER." NOW, IT'S WORKED OUT, AND I THINK BEING INVOLVED WITH PARKS AND REC IS GOOD. I THINK, IT HELPS JEFFREY A LOT THAT HE HAS YOU ALL AS RESOURCE AND IDEAS. WE'LL BE HAVING A BIG FUNDRAISER, AND YOU ALL WILL BE INVITED. I DON'T KNOW. YOU MAY KNOW, THE BAR AND GRILL AREA IS BEING RENOVATED AS WE SPEAK, SO OBVIOUSLY, WE'LL HAVE TO WAIT UNTIL THAT IS ALL DONE. WITH THAT, I'LL ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. >> JUST HOLD ON ONE SECOND. MR. MURRAY? >> YES, SIR. >> I TRULY APPRECIATE EVERYTHING THAT YOU'VE DONE. YOU'VE KEPT THIS BOARD WELL INFORMED WITH EVERYTHING THAT YOU HAVE DONE AT THE GOLF COURSE. IT SHOWS, AND YOU SHOULD BE COMMENDED FOR YOUR GROUP BECAUSE IT HAS DEFINITELY SAVED THIS CITY A LOT OF MONEY. >> I WAS ON THE GOLF COURSE ADVISORY BOARD, AND I SAID, THAT'S SILLY, THEY DON'T LISTEN. THEN I LOOKED AROUND AND SAW FRIENDS OF THE AIRPORT, FRIENDS OF BOSQUE BELLO, FRIENDS OF THE LIBRARY, FRIENDS, FRIENDS, FRIENDS, AND I SAID, WHY DON'T WE HAVE FRIENDS? THEN TWO LADIES SAID, THAT'S A GOOD IDEA, LEE. THEN SOMEBODY GAVE US $3,000, AND I SAID, HELL, WE GOT TO DO THIS. THEN ANOTHER GUY, WE CALL THEM OUR FOUNDING MEMBERS, HE BROUGHT $3,000. I SAID, THIS MIGHT WORK, LET'S SEE HOW IT GOES. MONEY COMES IN FROM PEOPLE I DON'T EVEN KNOW SOMETIMES, SO WE'LL JUST KEEP AT IT. >> JOHN, WHAT WAS YOUR QUESTION? >> I JUST WANTED TO BRIEFLY THE BATHROOM PROJECT THAT A COUPLE OF GENTLEMEN DID. >> THAT WAS, YES, GARY BRIEN AND MIKE ROBLEY WITH HELP FROM SOME OTHER PEOPLE. WE RENOVATED ALL THREE OF THE RESTROOMS ON THE GOLF COURSE. SOME OF THEM DIDN'T WORK. THE WATER CAME. WE PUT AUTOMATIC LIGHTS THAT COME ON AND GO OFF WHEN PEOPLE LEAVE. ONE OF THE FELLOWS, MIKE ROBLEY, HAD WORKED FOR ROTO-ROOTER, SO HE KNEW EXACTLY WHAT HE WAS DOING. I THINK, WE MIGHT HAVE SPENT $3,000 FOR ALL NEW TOILETS, AND SINKS AND REPAIRED IT ALL, AND THE WOMEN LOVE US. THE MEN DON'T REALLY USE IT THAT MUCH. [LAUGHTER] THEY HAVE OTHER PLACES TO GO. I BELONG TO A CLUB UP IN MARYLAND, AND YOU COULD LOSE YOUR MEMBERSHIP IF THEY FOUND YOU OUTSIDE URINATING. THAT'S WHAT THEY DID, BECAUSE IT WAS IN A NEIGHBORHOOD, AND OUR GOLF COURSE IS IN A NEIGHBORHOOD. I MAKE SURE THE GUYS GO WAY DEEP IN THE WOODS. [LAUGHTER] THANK YOU ALL. >> THANK YOU, MR. MURRAY. >> GOOD LUCK WITH EVERYTHING. THANK YOU. >> JEFFREY BIGGERS, GENERAL MANAGER OF THE GOLF COURSE. I JUST WANTED TO COME UP AND THANK HIM AS WELL. THE BIRD HOUSES, THE TREE TRIMMING, YOU DON'T KNOW HOW IMPORTANT THAT IS, WHAT HE'S DONE FOR US THERE. THE BATHROOMS ARE OUTSTANDING, LIKE HE SAID. WE HAVE A LIBRARY. IF YOU COME IN THE GOLF COURSE AND LOOK TO THE LEFT, THEY HAVE BOOK DONATIONS, AND YOU WANT A BOOK, TAKE A BOOK, THAT KIND OF THING. THEY WERE HEAVILY INVOLVED WITH LARRY BRAUDA MEMORIAL THAT WE HAD BACK IN OCTOBER, AND LOOKED TO EXPAND ON THAT EACH YEAR, AND EXCITED ABOUT THE FUTURE PROJECTS THEY HAVE COMING UP OBVIOUSLY WITH THE STARTER SHACK AND POTENTIALLY MORE WITH THE RESTROOMS. THANK YOU, LEE. >> THANK YOU. >> NUMBER 6, DISCUSSION ITEMS. [6.1 Election Of Chair and Vice Chair (Committee To Elect Chair And Vice Chair)] THE ELECTION OF THE CHAIR AND VICE CHAIR TAKES PLACE NOW, PLEASE. >> I'LL LEAD THIS. EVERY JANUARY, WE DO GO THROUGH AN ELECTION OF A CHAIR OR VICE CHAIR. [00:15:01] THE WAY THAT WE WOULD DO IT IS WE WOULD HAVE A NOMINATION FOR A CHAIR. THAT INDIVIDUAL WOULD ACCEPT THAT NOMINATION. AFTER THAT, WE WOULD NEED A SECOND. >> THEN WE WOULD VOTE. IF THERE IS MORE THAN ONE NOMINATION, WHAT WE WOULD DO IS WE WOULD HAVE A VOTE. WE WOULD HAND OUT SHEETS PAPER AND DO A VOTE. AT THAT POINT, THE WINNER WOULD BECOME THE CHAIR. THEN AT THAT POINT, WE WOULD ASK THE PERSON WHO WOULD COME IN SECOND TO BE THE VICE CHAIR. WE DO THIS EVERY JANUARY. WE ARE ASKING FOR A NOMINATION OF A CHAIR. MR. CAMERA HAS BEEN OUR CHAIR THE LAST TWO YEARS. WE GREATLY APPRECIATE ALL THE WORK THAT YOU HAVE DONE. BUT WITH THAT BEING SAID IS THIS JANUARY, AND WE WILL DO THOSE NOMINATIONS NOW. I'LL TURN IT OVER TO YOU UNLESS YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR ME. >> YOU HAVE TO NOMINATE CHAIR CAMERA TO BE CHAIR AGAIN. >> CHAIR CAMERA, WOULD YOU ACCEPT THAT NOMINATION? >> I'LL ACCEPT IT. >> IS THERE A SECOND FOR THAT?. >> I'LL SECOND IT. >> I'LL SECOND IT TOO. >> THERE'S A SECOND. IS THERE ANY OTHER NOMINATIONS FOR A CHAIR? IF THERE'S NO OTHER NOMINATIONS AT THIS POINT, WE'LL GO AHEAD AND DO THE VOTE FOR THE CHAIR FOR MR. CAMERA TO BE THE CHAIR AGAIN. THEN WE WILL THEN FOLLOW THIS UP WITH A NOMINATION FOR A VICE CHAIR. KATIE, IF THERE HAS BEEN A NOMINATION AND A SECOND NOMINATION BY MEMBER AND A SECOND MEMBER GUNN. IF YOU WOULD CALL THE VOTE. >> MEMBER SNYDER? >> YES. >> MEMBER PEARLSTINE? >> YES. >> MEMBER COCCHI? >> YES. >> NO. I DON'T THINK I CALL HIM. I DON'T CALL, TOM. VICE CHAIR MOUNTJOY? >> YES. >> MEMBER CURRY? >> YES. >> MEMBER GUNN? >> YES. >> MEMBER PELICAN? >> YES. >> IS THAT THROW ME FOR A LOOP. >> THEN FOLLOWING UP ON THAT, IS THERE A NOMINATION FOR A VICE CHAIR? >> I'D LIKE TO NOMINATE COCCHI. >> THERE IS A NOMINATION FOR MEMBER COCCHI TO BE THE VICE CHAIR. WOULD YOU ACCEPT THAT NOMINATION? >> YES. >> THERE IS THERE A SECOND FOR THAT? THERE'S A SECOND. THE NUMBER. >> I'M SORRY. >> I'M SORRY. MEMBER SNYDER. IF YOU COULD CALL THE ROLE. >> MEMBER SNYDER? >> YES. >> MEMBER PEARLSTINE? >> YES. >> MEMBER CHAIR CAMERA? >> YES. >> MEMBER MOUNTJOY? >> YES. >> MEMBER CURRY? >> YES. >> MEMBER GUNN? >> YES. >> MEMBER PELICAN? >> YES. >> CORRECT. >> WE DON'T HAVE TO CHANGE SPOTS. I GUESS THAT'S POSITIVE. >> THAT'S ALL POSITIVE. >> YOU READY, KATIE? I'M JUST I'M GOING TO JUMP INTO WELL, FIRST OFF, THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR ACCEPTING THOSE NOMINATIONS. WE GREATLY APPRECIATE IT. IF YOU DON'T MIND, CHAIR CAMERA, I'LL JUST JUMP INTO 6.2. >> PLEASE. >> 6.2 IS A TOWN HALL REVIEW. [6.2 Town Hall Review (Review Of January 12th Town Hall)] JUST A QUICK UPDATE. I DO BELIEVE THAT SOME OF YOU WERE IN THE AUDIENCE LAST NIGHT. I GREATLY APPRECIATE YOU BEING THERE. JUST WANTED TO UPDATE YOU AND GET YOUR THOUGHTS ON THE TOWN HALL MEETING. I SEE THE TOWN HALL MEETING AS BEING A POSITIVE. IT WAS POSITIVE. I THINK WE ANSWERED POSSIBILITY OF TWO OUT OF THE THREE ISSUES THAT WE'RE AT ON HAND. I THINK THE CITY MANAGER PUT IT VERY NICELY, IS THAT THESE ITEMS AREN'T NECESSARILY CONTENTIOUS, BUT THEY'RE CHALLENGING. I THINK THAT WAS A REALLY GOOD DESCRIPTION ON HER PART, AND WE HAVE TO WORK THROUGH THEM. BUT WITH THAT BEING SAID IS, I'LL JUST DO A LITTLE RECAP HERE, AND THEN YOU GUYS CAN HAVE SOME TIME. BUT THE MARTIN LUTHER KING RECREATION CENTER, FROM MY STANDPOINT FROM PARKS AND RECREATION, IS THAT WE DID GET A COMMUNITY BUY IN FOR A TWO FIELD LAYOUT, [00:20:05] ALONG WITH SOME UPDATES TO JO ALLARD FIELD. WITH THAT BEING SAID, IS THE PARKS AND RECREATION DEPARTMENT IS ALONG WITH THE CITY PROJECT MANAGER ARE READY TO PRESENT A PROPOSAL TO THE CITY COMMISSION IN FEBRUARY FOR FINAL DESIGN. ONCE WE GET THAT DESIGN, THERE WILL BE MUCH MORE COMMUNITY INPUT, BUT WE ARE PREPARED TO BRING A PROPOSAL TOWARD THE CITY COMMISSION IN FEBRUARY TO GET THE BALL ROLLING ON THAT. THEN THE LIFT STATION, THERE WASN'T TOO MANY QUESTIONS REGARDING THE LIFT STATION. BUT FROM THE SOUNDS OF WITH ANDRE IS THAT THAT PARTICULAR LIFT STATION WOULD STAY IN THE SAME AREA. IT WOULD BE I DON'T WANT TO USE THE WORD DOWNGRADED, BUT IT WOULDN'T BE SEEN AS MUCH. IN THE EXACT AREA, THE SMELL WOULD BE REDUCED AS WELL, WHICH WAS ONE OF PARKS AND RECREATION'S MAIN CONCERNS. THE COMMUNITY THAT IS TO THE EAST OF CENTRAL PARK ON 13TH STREET. I THINK WE ANSWERED SOME OF THOSE CONCERNS AS WELL. THEY WERE CONCERNED ABOUT MOVING IT FURTHER TO THE EAST IN THEIR SIGHTLINES. I THINK WE'VE ADDRESSED THAT. THE ANSWERS FOR YBOR ALVAREZ. I DON'T THINK WE NECESSARILY HAVE A SOLUTION FOR THAT AT THIS POINT. THERE'S ITEMS THAT WE HAVE TO REVIEW, AND I THINK WE HAVE TO CONTINUE TO VET WHAT THOSE ANSWERS AND SOLUTIONS ARE. I JUST WANTED TO SEE IF YOU HAD ANY QUESTIONS FOR ME AT THIS POINT REGARDING THE TOWN HALL AND MOVING FORWARD. I DO BELIEVE THAT WE ARE WORKING TO ANOTHER WORKSHOP SCHEDULED WITH THE CITY COMMISSION IN EARLY MARCH TO HAVE FURTHER DISCUSSIONS MOVING FORWARD ON THAT. I DON'T HAVE THAT EXACT DATE, BUT I DO BELIEVE IT'S POSSIBLY MARCH 3RD. >> SCOTT, MY QUESTION TO YOU IS WHEN WE CUT DOWN TO TWO FIELDS FOR MLK AND COME OUT WITH TWO, WILL THERE BE A POSSIBILITY AT A LATER DATE EVER TO PUT A THIRD FIELD IN? >> I'M NOT PREPARED TO ANSWER THAT QUESTION. I THINK AT THIS TIME, THE COMMUNITY HAS SPOKEN AND THE THIRD FIELD OPTION, WE'RE LOOKING AT A TWO FIELD OPTION THERE. IN THE FUTURE, IF THAT WERE TO HAPPEN, POSSIBLY, BUT AS OF RIGHT NOW, THE DESIGN IS GOING TO BE TWO FIELDS, AND THAT'S HOW IT'S GOING TO BE USED. >> THANK YOU. >> BUT THE REASON I ASKED THAT QUESTION WAS AT THE SHORTAGE OF FIELDS THAT WE DO HAVE IN THE CITY, AND IF THINGS DO CHANGE, WOULD THAT BE ABLE TO BE AN OPTION DOWN THE ROAD? THAT'S ALL. THANK YOU. >> I HAVE A COUPLE OF COMMENTS. IT WAS NICE TO SEE SO MANY PEOPLE TURNED OUT FOR THE TOWN HALL. BUT JUST A COUPLE OF PIECES OF FEEDBACK. I MENTIONED TO MR. DECALE AFTER THE MEETING. I UNDERSTAND THAT THE LIFT STATION IS IN THE PARK, BUT I THINK THERE WERE AT LEAST A COUPLE OF MISSED OPPORTUNITIES IN HIS TALK ABOUT MENTIONING THAT WATER IS A REVENUE. OR AN ENTERPRISE FUND. WHEN WE WERE SITTING THERE TALKING ABOUT PROJECTS, AND MONEY THAT'S GOING TO BE SPENT, PEOPLE WERE HEARING LIKE $2 MILLION FOR HIS PROJECTS. THAT'S MONEY THAT THEY HAVE SAVED. IT'S PART OF THEIR ENTERPRISE. I THINK FOR PEOPLE WHO DON'T KNOW THAT, THAT WAS A MISSED OPPORTUNITY, AND THAT WHEN WE'RE HAVING A LOT OF THE CONVERSATIONS THAT WE'RE HAVING IN THE CITY RIGHT NOW ABOUT FUNDING AND THINGS LIKE THAT, I WAS DISAPPOINTED THAT WASN'T MORE. BECAUSE WATER DOES A GREAT JOB AT PLANNING FOR THEIR PROJECTS FOR THE FUTURE AND BEING ABLE TO FUND THOSE, I THOUGHT THAT HE SHOULD HAVE AT LEAST PATTED HIMSELF ON THE BACK WITH THAT. I'M GOING TO COME WITH MY DEAD HORSE ABOUT HAVING PEOPLE TALKING ABOUT TO WHAT'S GOING ON IN THE COUNTY AS WELL, BECAUSE ONE OF THE IDEAS THAT KEEPS GETTING PITCHED IS ABOUT THE SOCCER FIELDS BEING OUT AT 17. BUT IN MY MIND, HAVING A PRESENCE ON THE ISLAND FOR SOCCER ALWAYS SHOULD BE A SITUATION. BUT THEN HOW IS THAT WORKING IN THE FUTURE IN CONJUNCTION WITH WHAT THE COUNTY IS DOING AS WELL? I HAD HOPED TO SEE SOMEBODY OR HEAR SOMETHING FROM THE COUNTY LAST NIGHT AND THAT DID NOT HAPPEN. AGAIN, I FEEL LIKE WE WALKED AWAY, [00:25:02] AND EVEN WITH A WORKSHOP WITH THE COMMISSION, IT SEEMS LIKE THERE'S A LOT OF LEG WORK TO BE DONE FROM HERE TO THERE TO GIVE THEM SOMETHING TO VOTE ON, TO TAKE ACTION UPON. I JUST DON'T FEEL LIKE WE HAVE THAT. A MONTH GOES BY AND A BLINK OF AN EYE. >> WELL TO YOUR POINT WHEN THEY BROUGHT THAT UP, TO ME, IT WAS, LIKE VERY MUCH, I THINK THE FIELDS NEED TO STAY ON THE ISLAND TOO, BUT I COULD ALSO SEE THERE BEING A NEED TO USE THOSE SOMETIMES FOR TOURNAMENTS OR DIFFERENT THINGS. TO ME IT SOUNDED LIKE, WELL, WE'RE EITHER GOING TO HELP WITH THESE FIELDS IN THE COUNTY OR DO THE ONES ON THE ISLAND. IF WE DO THE ONES ON THE ISLAND, WE'RE NOT USING THOSE AT ALL. IN MY MIND, I KEPT THINKING, WELL, THESE TRAVELING TEAMS ARE COMPETITIVE TEAMS, IF LET'S SAY THAT UD BUILDS AN UD SOCCER LEAGUE AT SOME POINT, AND WE CAN PLAY THEN, THEN WE WOULD NEED TO USE THOSE, I AGREE THAT THERE WASN'T ANYTHING DISCUSSED OF HOW WE NEED TO BUILD SOME HERE, BUT WE'RE ALSO LOOKING AT HOW WE CAN PARTNER TO BE ABLE TO USE THOSE BECAUSE JUST THREE FIELDS OUT THERE DOESN'T SOUND LIKE A WHOLE LOT FOR THE WHOLE COUNTY GOING FORWARD EITHER. TO ME, IT WAS VERY EITHER OR, AND NOT. WE'RE GOING TO DO IT HERE, BUT WE DO SEE THERE BEING A NEED TO USE THOSE AND PARTNER WITH THEM SOME TOO. >> WHAT YOU'RE DESCRIBING IS MY UNDERSTANDING FROM MULTIPLE CONVERSATIONS WITH AMELIA ISLAND YOU SOCCER IS THAT THE PROGRAM IS HERE. THIS IS WHERE KIDS ARE IT'S WHERE YOU GO TO SCHOOL. IT'S WHERE YOU GO FOR AN HOUR LONG PRACTICE DURING THE WEEK, A COUPLE OF TIMES IF YOU'VE GOT MULTIPLE KIDS, YOU'RE RUNNING ALL PLACES. BUT THAT YOU DO THAT HERE, THEN WHEN THERE ARE BIGGER EVENTS, IT'S AT A BIGGER COMPLEX AND YOU'RE PLANNING TO DO THAT. BUT THAT'S NOT YOUR EVERY DAY REGULAR COURSE OF PRACTICE. AGAIN, YOUR KIDS AREN'T IN IT YET, AND I'M SURE THEY WILL BE. THAT WHOLE TRAVELING AND THE COMPETITIVE TEAMS. YOU'LL BE GLAD TO GO TO UD THAT POINT BECAUSE THAT'S A LOT CLOSER THAN EVERYTHING ELSE YOU'RE DOING. >> WELL, I FEEL LIKE IF WE HAD A BETTER UNDERSTANDING ON THAT, IT COULD HELP PEOPLE UNDERSTAND WHAT THE FULL NEED OF WHAT IS ON THE ISLAND? LIKE IS THREE FIELDS ENOUGH? I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY, I DON'T THINK WE EVEN SAID LAST NIGHT EXACTLY HOW MANY THEY WANT. >> I THINK [INAUDIBLE]. >> THEN HOW MANY, LIKE THEY MIGHT NEED, BUT SOME DAYS WE NEED FIVE, THEN WE COULD USE. >> TO ANSWER SOME OF THOSE QUESTIONS, IS THE COUNTY OUT ON US 17 NORTH AT THE UD SPORTS COMPLEX IS PLANNING TO BUILD THREE SOCCER FIELDS. THREE. THE CITY IS WORKING WITH THEM WITH THE POSSIBILITY OF ADDING THREE ADDITIONAL FIELDS TO HELP WITH AMELIA ISLAND WE SOCCER. >> IS THAT HAPPENING NO MATTER WHAT? >> NO, NOT NECESSARILY. HOWEVER, ONE OF THE ISSUES IS WITH AMELIA ISLAND USE SOCCER WANTING TO STAY WHOLE ON THE ISLAND, WHICH MY ASSUMPTION HERE IS THAT THREE FIELDS WOULD BE SUFFICIENT FOR WHAT THEY WOULD WANT OR WHICH IS VERY SIMILAR TO WHAT THEY HAVE RIGHT NOW. THE PROBLEM IS WHERE IS THAT? THAT'S THE CHALLENGE. BECAUSE AT THE AIRPORT, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HAVING TO BUY LAND. BECAUSE IF WE INVEST $6 MILLION OR LET'S JUST SAY WE INVEST $3 MILLION TO PROPERLY DEVELOP THE SOCCER FIELD, SO WE DON'T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT THEM DRAINING THEN WE BETTER BUY IT OR LEASE IT BECAUSE THERE IS A CHANCE THAT AN AERONAUTICAL USAGE COULD COME IN AND TAKE IT FROM US. THERE IS THAT CHANCE. THAT'S THE WHOLE POINT OF BUYING IT OR LEASING IT. IF WE'RE NOT AT THE AIRPORT, THEN WHERE ARE WE GOING TO PUT THEM? ABOUT THREE FIELDS OR JUST A LITTLE BIT OVER THREE FIELDS IS 15 ACRES.15 ACRES ON THE ISLAND IS NOT EASY TO FIND. >> BUT LET ME SAY THIS TO TOM'S POINT ABOUT, YOU'RE SAYING, IN THE FUTURE, COULD WE DO ADD ANOTHER FIELD AT MLK? MY THINKING, AND THAT'S WHY I SUPPORTED THE THREE FIELD MEASURE BECAUSE AGAIN, AT THE RATE THAT THE CITY IS ABLE TO DO THINGS, AT THE RATE THAT, WHEN WE MAKE THESE IMPROVEMENTS, WE'RE LIKE RUNNING IT TO THE END OF ITS LIFE BEFORE IT GETS DONE AGAIN. IT'S MUCH LIKE THE PROBLEMS WITH SCHOOLS. THE SCHOOLS ARE BUSTING AT THE SEAMS IN TRAILERS BEFORE THEY CAN GO FUND AND BUILD ANOTHER SCHOOL. BY THE TIME WE GET TO, WE WILL HAVE ALREADY OUTGROWN THE THINGS WE ARE BUILDING RIGHT NOW WHEN WE PUT PEOPLE IN THEM. I WOULD ARGUE THAT THE SOCCER FIELDS, IF WE'RE LOOKING AT HOW MANY KIDS PLAY [00:30:01] ON IF WE'RE LOOKING AT EVERYTHING AT LIKE A SQUARE INCH, HOW MANY KIDS ARE PLAYING BABE RUTH, HOW MANY KIDS ARE PLAYING ELM STREET, HOW MANY KIDS ARE PLAYING AT THE SOCCER FIELDS, THERE ARE THREE TIMES THE NUMBER OF YOUR PROGRAM, TEN TIMES THE NUMBER OF ELM STREET. I'M NOT SAYING THAT EVERYBODY DOESN'T DESERVE THOSE FIELDS, THEY DO, BUT WE ALSO HAVE TO LOOK AT THE THINGS THAT WE ARE DOING THAT COSTING A LOT OF MONEY RIGHT NOW, WE WILL ALREADY BE OUTGROWING THEM WHEN THEY ARE BUILT. >> THEN THE FIELDS THAT WE DO HAVE CURRENTLY IS THE MAJORITY OF ALL THESE SPORTS ARE IN SEASON AT THE SAME TIME. WHEN SOFTBALL IS GOING ON SOFTBALL NEEDS IT. THEN IF WE'RE MOVING, WHERE DO WE MOVE THEM TO? IS MY POINT. MOST OF THESE SEASONS ARE IN SEASON AT THE SAME TIME. SOMEONE MIGHT SEE A FIELD AND BE LIKE, WELL, THAT FIELD IS NOT IN USE. WELL, WHEN IT'S HEAVILY USED DURING WHEN THESE SPORT ORGANIZATIONS NEED THEM. THE MAIN ISSUE WITH SOCCER IS, WHERE IS THE SPACE THAT IS NEEDED? EVEN IF YOU WERE TO SAY, WELL, WE WANT TO ADD TWO FIELDS. IS THAT IS THAT MAKING YOU SOCCER WHOLE? NO, NOT TO WHAT THEY HAVE RIGHT NOW. BUT EVEN IF WE WERE TO ADD TWO FIELDS RIGHT NOW, WHERE WOULD WE ADD THEM? IT'S CHALLENGING. IF WE TALK ABOUT THE SPACE THAT'S NORTH OF THE AIRPORT, THAT IS COMPLETELY WOODED. THERE ARE POSSIBILITY OF WETLANDS IN THERE. >> BUT WE ALSO THE WETLANDS. >> I CAN WORK WITH ANDRE DECAL, AND HE WOULD BE MORE THAN HAPPY TO WORK WITH US ON THAT. BUT THOSE ARE JUST THAT'S THE VETTING PROCESS THAT WE HAVE TO DO. >> CAN I CLARIFY ON THAT? >> YES. >> YOU MADE A COMMENT THAT WE EITHER NEED TO BUY AND OR LEASE E BAR. MY UNDERSTANDING IS IF THE CITY LEASES IT, THERE IS NO GUARANTEE THAT THE AIRPORT WILL NOT TAKE IT BACK. THEY COULD COME BACK AND TAKE IT BACK AT ANY POINT DURING THAT LEASE IF THERE'S AN AVIATION USE. IF WE BUY IT, THAT IS THE ONLY WAY THAT WE CAN OUTRIGHT OWN CITY AIRPORT CAN NEVER COME BACK AND TAKE THAT BACK FROM US. IF WE TO PROTECT THE INVESTMENT OF THE $3 MILLION BILL OR THE $2 MILLION BILL WOULD BE TO PHYSICALLY BUY. >> WE COULD ENTER INTO A LEASE AT FAIR MARKET VALUE OF ABOUT $350,000 A YEAR TO LEASE IT FOR A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF TIME, AND IF IT'S WITHIN THAT TIME THAT WE HAVE AGREED TO AND LEASE IT, IT WOULD BE PROTECTED. >> BUT THAT'S A HUGE RISK. THAT'S YOU'RE ASKING I'LL BE ASKING THE CITY COMMISSION AND THE CITY TO TAKE A HUGE RISK. WE'LL BE INVESTING $2 MILLION TO BUILD FIELDS THAT WE CAN'T GUARANTEE YOU'RE GOING TO BE THERE MORE THAN 10 YEARS. >> YES. >> I TALKED IT OVER WITH NATE AFTER THE MEETING YESTERDAY. I'VE THOUGHT IF YOU DECIDE TO BUY IT, COMING UP WITH DIFFERENT TERMS. YES, WE'RE PAYING IT, BUT YOU'LL GET THE MONEY OVER 20 YEARS OR ANOTHER OR 25 YEARS. A LOT OF PURCHASES ARE DONE LIKE THAT, INSTALLMENT PLANS, SO IT COULD BE A STRAIGHT OUT PURCHASE, BUT THEY'D ONLY GET THE MONEY. HE DOESN'T NEED $4 MILLION OR $3 MILLION AT ONCE, HE'D GET THE MONEY EACH YEAR FOR 20 SOMETHING YEARS. IT COULD BE DONE. I THINK HE SAID HE'D GO SEE IF HE'D CHECK INTO WHETHER THAT'D BE ACCEPTABLE. >> BUT I'VE BEEN LIKE, PRETTY FOR THE THE WOODED AREA, I GUESS, BECAUSE IT'S LIKE, WELL, WE HAVE THAT LAND. BUT THEN AFTER LAST NIGHT, TOO, I HAD THE THOUGHT OF IT IS VERY EXPENSIVE TO BUY EBER, BUT TO LET THAT LAND GO AND THEN BASICALLY THE ONLY SPACE WE HAVE TO EVENTUALLY EXPAND FOR MORE OF WHATEVER WE NEED IN THE FUTURE, WHETHER IT'S SOCCER, BASEBALL, SOFTBALL, OR ANYTHING, TO USE THAT PIECE OF WOODED LAND, THEN WHERE ELSE CAN WE EXPAND? NOWHERE. LIKE DOWN THE ROAD. LET'S SAY WE OUTGROW MLK. WE OUTGROW BATH. NOW WE NEED SOME MORE FIELDS. WE DON'T BUY EBER. THEY PUT HANGERS THERE AND THAT IT'S LIKE, WELL. >> I HAVE MORE TRADEOFFS TOO BECAUSE IT'S NOT DEVELOPED AT ALL THERE. INFRASTRUCTURE WOULD HAVE TO BE BUILT THERE. THAT'S A COST. BUT WHAT IS THE COST OF OKAY, THE LOSS OF THE TREES THERE? BUILDING OUT THE INFRASTRUCTURE, THEN BUILDING OUT THE FACILITY. >> I COULD SEE IT AT SOME POINT IT NEEDED TO BE SOMETHING THAT IT'S LIKE. >> I HAVE A QUESTION. IS THERE ANY OPPORTUNITY AND I THINK VICE CHAIR BROUGHT THIS UP AT A MEETING LATE EARLIER. WHY CAN'T WE HAVE A MEETING WITH NASSAU COUNTY RECREATION AND FIND OUT FROM THEM, IS THERE ANY POSSIBILITY OR ASK THE COMMISSION TO DO IT? IS THERE ANY MORE MONEY THAT NASSAU COUNTY IS WILLING TO THROW INTO THE POT BECAUSE OF THE EXPECTED HIGHER COST AT THE TIME, [00:35:05] IT WAS ONLY 1.75 WHEN WE INITIATED THE FIRST TIME 2.5 YEARS AGO? IS IT POSSIBLE THAT WE GO BACK TO NASSAU COUNTY AND ONCE WE GET ALL THE FACTS AND SAY, IS THIS YOUR FINAL, OR WILL YOU BE ABLE TO CONTRIBUTE MORE TO IT? >> ARE THEY STILL COMMITTED TO THAT DEAL? I DON'T. >> WE HAVEN'T. WE HAVEN'T ANYTHING? >> WELL, I MEAN, THEY I THINK THEY ALLOCATED. >> THEY ALLOCATED 1.7 MILLION IN THAT CONSTRUCTION HAD TO BE DONE BY IN THE MIDDLE OF 2027. >> WE STILL WE STILL WOULD POTENTIALLY HAVE THAT MONEY IF WE IF WE WERE GOING. >> POTENTIALLY, YES. >> THEN CAN YOU TELL ME WHAT THE FAIR MARKET VALUE THE LATEST APPRAISAL THAT CAME BACK WAS? >> 3.5 MILLION. >> JUST FOR THE PROPERTY? >> JUST TO PURCHASE THE 15 ACRES. NOW, THAT WENT FROM A 12 ACRE PARCEL TO A 15 ACRE PARCEL. I THINK PER ACRE COST WENT UP ABOUT $80,000. >> REALISTICALLY, WE HAD BUDGETED 1.7 OR EIGHT FROM THE CITY. IS THAT MONEY STILL THERE? >> LAST NIGHT IN THE PRESENTATION, IT'S IMPACT FEE MONEY. AS WE GO THROUGH ALL OF THESE PROJECTS, THOSE IMPACT FEE MONEY GOES AWAY. >> IT GOES AWAY. >> BECAUSE EVEN IF WE STILL HAD THE 3.6 TO BUY IT FOR WHAT IT COSTS NOW, THAT STILL WOULDN'T ALLOCATE PROBABLY A TWO TO $3 MILLION BILL. >> TWO TO 2.5 MILLION. THAT'S CORRECT. >> IS THERE A DATE THAT ALL OF THIS HAS TO BE DIVIDED THERE? >> WELL, I MEAN, AS WE GO THROUGH THIS PROCESS, AS AMELIA ISLAND SOCCER HAS MADE IT VERY APPARENT THAT THEY'RE MAKING PLANS FOR THE FALL SEASON. LAST NIGHT, I DID SAY THAT IT WOULD BE COMPROMISED. I DON'T KNOW HOW EXACTLY IT'S GOING TO BE COMPROMISED AT THIS POINT, BUT IT WILL BE COMPROMISED. >> DO YOU THINK THERE'D BE ANY LIKE, I MEAN, OBVIOUSLY BY FALL, WE NEED A DECISION. BUT IF WE HAD A SET DECISION, DO YOU THINK THERE'D BE ANY OPPORTUNITY TO GO TO, I GUESS, THE FAA AND SAY, LIKE, CAN WE RENT BACK THE FIELDS WE'RE CURRENTLY PLAYING ON FOR X AMOUNT OF TIME WHILE WE BUILD THE OTHER ONE SO THEY HAVE A PLACE TO CONTINUE PLAYING? BECAUSE WOULDN'T WE BE MOVING THEM OVER WHERE SOFTBALL IS? >> WELL, SO I THINK THE FAA WOULD BE OKAY WITH THAT. AS LONG AS THERE WAS A E MAIL THAT WE KNOW THAT WE WERE GOING TO BE BUYING IT. BUT WE DON'T KNOW THAT. I THINK WHAT'S IMPORTANT HERE TOO IS YOU GUYS ARE ASKING SOME OF THESE QUESTIONS, AND I THINK I NEED TO SPEAK TO THE CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE REGARDING THEM. I THINK WHEN WE DO COME BACK AND I UNDERSTAND THAT IT IS IN MARCH. BUT THE MOST IMPORTANT THING IS TO PROVIDE THE COMMISSION WITH ALL THE INFORMATION FOR THEM TO MAKE A DECISION. >> BUT WHAT IS THAT? >> THAT'S WHAT I FEEL LIKE WE'RE NOT. >> WELL, THE DECISION IS, ARE WE IS THE CITY GOING TO BE ABLE TO PROVIDE SOCCER FIELDS FOR NOT ONLY THE COMMUNITY, BUT AMELIA ISLAND SOCCER. I THINK THAT'S THE ULTIMATE DECISION. IS THE SPACE AVAILABLE FOR US AT WHAT PRICE? THAT'S THE DECISION. >> I'LL SAY PERSONALLY, AFTER LAST NIGHT, IT JUST SEEMS LIKE SUCH A GREAT ORGANIZATION. I SIGNED MY DAUGHTER UP BECAUSE I WANT HER TO LIKE EXPERIENCE THAT. SHE'S YOUNG. SHE'S ONLY FOUR, BUT I WANT HER TO HAVE IT AT LEAST THIS SEASON BECAUSE I THINK THERE'S JUST SO MANY BENEFITS TO IT. IF IT WERE TO MOVE OFF THE ISLAND, THAT JUST LIKE WOULDN'T BE AN OPTION WITH OUR SCHEDULE AND ALL. LIKE FOR THE NEXT MEETING, WOULD IT BE LIKE WE GET PRICES FOR LIKE IF IT WERE TO BE THE WOODED LANDER, LIKE TO COMPARE TO PRESENT TO THE COMMISSION. >> YES, SO I DON'T KNOW WITH THE WOODED LAND. I THINK THAT CONVERSATION IS GOING TO BE NOT ONLY HOW MUCH AS IT IS TO DEVELOP IT, BUT MORE SO OF THE TREE CANOPY IN THE WETLANDS. BUT THE OTHER THING IS THE TWO OPTIONS IS, IF WE CANNOT PROVIDE THE SOCCER FIELDS HERE ON THE ISLAND AT WHATEVER PRICE THAT IS, IS ARE WE ABLE TO PROVIDE AND WORK WITH THE COUNTY IN SOME MONETARY VALUE POSSIBLY WITH THE COUNTY. WE CAN PROVIDE BECAUSE THE COUNTY WOULD NOT BUILD THE ADDITIONAL THREE FIELDS AT THIS POINT. I DON'T BELIEVE. I DON'T BELIEVE THEY WOULD BE BUILDING THE ADDITIONAL THREE FIELDS IF WE WERE WORKING IN THAT PROCESS? [00:40:05] I BELIEVE ARE RIGHT NOW HAVE PLANNED WHERE THERE'S THREE FIELDS. THE OPTION IS FOR THE CITY TO WORK WITH THE COUNTY TO POSSIBLY BUILD THREE MORE FIELDS. >> THAT'S WHERE I SEE, LIKE, A MAJOR GAP IN WHAT IS HAPPENING BECAUSE ARE THEY AWARE IF WE COULD ALL SIT DOWN AT THE TABLE AND SAY, LISTEN, WE CARE ABOUT THIS ENOUGH IN OUR COMMUNITY TO BUILD THIS OUT AND PROVIDE THIS FOR ALL OF THESE KIDS, BUT THAT NUMBER IS STILL GROWING. A LOT OF THOSE KIDS LIVE IN THE COUNTY AS WELL. WE NEED THIS IN CONJUNCTION, AND MAYBE YOU SHOULD BE LOOKING FURTHER OUT THAN JUST THE THREE FIELDS. NOW, BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE ANY. IT IS FINITE WHERE WE CAN GROW. IT IS NOT FINITE WHERE THEY CAN GROW. I JUST FEEL LIKE THOSE CONVERSATIONS ARE NOT HAPPENING AT ALL. >> I THINK THOSE CONVERSATIONS ARE HAPPENING. I THINK THAT THE CITY IS WORKING WITH THE COUNTY FOR ONE OF THE POSSIBLE OPTIONS TO IF THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE THREE FIELDS OR SIX FIELDS. NOW, DOES THAT ANSWER THE QUESTION FIVE YEARS FROM NOW OR SIX YEARS FROM NOW? BUT IT IS GIVING A HOME OR I BELIEVE, AT LEAST A HOME TO AMELIA ISLAND WE SOCCER FOR RIGHT NOW, AND I THINK THAT THAT'S ONE OF THE OPTIONS THAT IS BEING PRESENTED. I DO UNDERSTAND THAT THERE'S MEMBERS OF THIS COMMUNITY THAT LIVE IN THE CITY THAT AREN'T GOING TO SUPPORT THAT. I DO GET THAT BECAUSE YOU'RE DRIVING OUT THERE. BUT IT IS AN OPTION. >> GOT TO YOUR OPTION, AND AT LEAST THERE'S SOMETHING THAT CAN HANDLE WHAT WE HAVE. BUT I GUARANTEE YOU IF YOU ASK AMELIA SOCCER, HOW MANY PLAYERS DO YOU THINK YOU'RE GOING TO LOSE? BECAUSE THE PARENTS DO NOT WANT TO DRIVE OUT TO 17. THAT IS A QUESTION THAT ONLY AMELIA SOCCER CAN ANSWER OR ESTIMATE THAT THEY WOULD LOSE. BECAUSE WE WOULD NOT BE OFFERING SOCCER AT ALL ON THIS ISLAND FOR ANYBODY UNLESS RECREATION PICKS IT UP AND SAYS THAT WE HAVE RECREATIONAL SOCCER. WE DON'T HAVE. >> I WOULDN'T HAVE FEW. >> EXACTLY. ALL I'M SAYING IS I THINK THERE'S MORE DISCUSSIONS THAT HAVE TO BE HELD WITH NASSAU COUNTY TO SEE IF THEY HAVE ANY INTEREST IN INVESTING MORE MONEY INTO EBR IF THAT'S AN OPTION STILL. OTHER THAN THAT, THEN WE'VE RUN OUT OF ANY OPPORTUNITY TO BUILD ANYTHING ELSE. BECAUSE AS YOU SAID LAST NIGHT, THOSE 20 ACRES ARE IMPACTED BY A LOT OF THINGS OFF THE ISLAND. IT'S NOT WORTH REPEATING, BUT THE INFRASTRUCTURE AND EVERYTHING ELSE THAT GOES INTO BUILDING THAT COMPLEX OUT THERE PROBABLY IS GOING TO BE $3 MILLION PLUS TO BUILD OUT THERE. >> THE OPTION TO ADD ADDITIONAL FIELDS IS THE COUNTY IS OPEN TO THAT OPTION. THOSE THREE FIELDS THAT THEY'RE PLANNING, THERE WOULD BE AN ADDITIONAL THREE FIELDS. I BELIEVE THEY'RE OPEN TO THAT OPTION, AND I THINK THOSE WILL BE CONVERSATIONS THAT ARE TAKEN IN AGREEMENTS BASED ON THE CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE AND THE COUNTY'S MANAGER'S OFFICE AS WELL. >> DOES THE COUNTY HAVE ANY OTHER LAND ON THE ISLAND THAT COULD BE USED? HAS THAT BEEN LOOKED AT? >> WE HAVE LOOKED AT OPEN SPACES. THROUGHOUT THE ENTIRE ISLAND, AND THERE'S SOME PRIVATELY OWNED ACREAGE, BUT NO. >> CAN I JUST PRIVATELY OWNED ACREAGE CHEAPER THAN THE FAS? >> I WANT TO GO BACK TO THE JORY. >> THERE'S LIKE A 20 ACRE OVER BY AVE, BUT IT'S ALSO HEAVILY WOODED. >> I WANT TO GO BACK TO HICKORY STREET. I KNOW WE'VE TALKED ABOUT HICKORY STREET BEING A POSSIBLE INTERIM FIX. HOW MANY FIELDS MAY LEGAL FIELDS CAN YOU FIT ON HICKORY STREET IF YOU WERE TO DEVELOP FIELDS THERE. IS IT JUST TWO? >>YEAH. >> REGULATION FIRST. >> OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD, WE COULD DO, WE WOULD HAVE TO ADJUST WITHOUT ADJUSTING THE PARKING LOT, PROBABLY ONE ON THE EAST SIDE. IF WE WERE TO ADJUST THE PARKING LOT AND SHIFT THE PARKING LOT TO THE EAST, WE COULD GET ONE ON EACH SIDE. THE WAY THAT WE HAD IT LAID OUT IN THE PRESENTATION WAS THAT THE FIELDS WOULD BE RUNNING NORTH AND SOUTH. THAT DOES NOT PROVIDE FOR A FULL LAYOUT. A FULL SIZE. WHEN I SAY A FULL SIZE I WOULD SAY IS VERY SIMILAR TO A FOOTBALL FIELD WITH THE GOAL ON THE END LINE OF THE FOOTBALL FIELD, THE END ZONE. [00:45:02] >> BUT DO YOU THINK YOU COULD FIT TWO REGULATION SIZE IN THERE? IS THAT AN OPTION TO LOOK AT? >> WELL, YES, THAT'S AN OPTION. HOWEVER, HICKORY STREET IS USED BY MULTIPLE YOUTH SPORT ORGANIZATIONS. IF WE WERE TO JUST SAY, THIS IS GOING TO BE THE SPOT FOR AMELIA ISLAND SOCCER. OTHER YOUTH SPORT ORGANIZATIONS WOULD FEEL THE BRUNT OF THAT FOR PRACTICES. >> INCLUDING MIDDLE SCHOOL SOCCER. >> ISN'T LACROSSE USE IT? >> LACROSSE USES IT, POP WARNER OR I CALL IT PRO WARNER [OVERLAPPING] FOOTBALL ASSOCIATION USES IT. TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, YES, THERE WOULD BE SOME BEHIND THE SCENES SO THAT PEOPLE WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO USE IT AS MUCH. >> MY CONCERN WITH HICKORY IS IN FULL DISCLOSURE. I LIVE ON HICKORY PARK, AND I'M REALLY HAVING [INAUDIBLE] ABOUT LIGHTS GOING IN OVER THERE, POSSIBLY, BUT LARGER THAN THAT MY BIGGEST CONCERN ABOUT ANY OF THESE SOLUTIONS IS THAT WE'RE JUST PUTTING BAND AIDS ON A LOT OF STUFF AND WE'RE SPENDING MONEY THAT IS NOT REALLY GOING TO SOLVE THE PROBLEM INSTEAD OF FOCUSING ON GETTING A REAL PLAN TOGETHER AND SPENDING THE MONEY THERE SO THAT THIS CAN HAPPEN. I UNDERSTAND THAT THERE ARE SOME THINGS THAT WOULD NEED TO HAPPEN IN THE SHORT TERM BECAUSE WE ARE SO FAR DOWN THE ROAD AND THEY'RE AT RISK OF DAMAGING THEIR PROGRAM, AND WE NEED TO ACT SWIFTLY. BUT IF I WOULD RATHER INSTEAD OF LOOK LIKE $300,000 WORTH OF LIGHTS OVER AT JO VARDY SO IF WE PUT $300,000 OF LIGHTS OVER AT HICKORY TO DO SOMETHING THAT IS NOT GOING TO SOLVE THEIR PROBLEM, WE SHOULD BE SPENDING THAT MONEY SOLVING THEIR PROBLEM. >> THE ONLY WAY TO SOLVE THEIR PROBLEM TO KEEP IT ON THE ISLAND IS TO PROVIDE THEM OR WHAT AMELIA ISLAND [INAUDIBLE] SOCCER WANTS IS TO KEEP THEM WHOLE AND TO PROVIDE THEM WITH THE ACREAGE THAT THEY HAVE. THE ONLY PLACE THAT WE HAVE THAT ACREAGE IS THE AIRPORT, NUMBER ONE THAT WE WOULD HAVE TO BUY IF WE'RE GOING TO DEVELOP IT. NUMBER 2, WOULD THAT BE THAT BIG PIECE OF LAND THAT'S BY THE AIRPORT. THOSE ARE THE ONLY TWO PIECES OF PROPERTY THAT WE HAVE IN THE CITY. >> ARE YOU ALL GOING TO GO THROUGH THE PROCESS WITH ANDRE OR POSSIBLY LOOKING AT WHAT IT'S GOING TO COST OR POTENTIAL COST TO DEVELOP THAT SPACE? I'M JUST ASKING THAT BEFORE YOU GO TO THE COMMISSION WITH THAT? >> I THINK THAT WE NEED AND I'M SORRY, I DIDN'T MEAN TO INTERRUPT YOU. >> JUST TO BE ABLE TO GIVE THEM SOME BASELINE INFORMATION. >> I THINK THAT WE NEED TO PREPARE. I'M PREPARED TO DO THAT SO THE CITY COMMISSION HAS THAT INFORMATION TO MAKE THEIR DECISION. >> YOU WANT A RECOMMENDATION FROM US FOR ONE DIRECTION OR THE OTHER FOR [INAUDIBLE] OR THE WOODED LAND? >> I THINK IT HAS TO BE AN END BECAUSE IF WE'RE SPENDING TIME TO GO AND TRY TO FIGURE OUT WHAT'S GOING ON OVER AT THAT WOODED LAND AND THEN THAT'S NOTHING, THEN WE WASTED ANOTHER MONTH, TWO MONTHS. I WOULD SUGGEST THAT WE HAVE A TREE SURVEY, A WETLAND THING TO SEE IF IT'S EVEN DOABLE. LOOKING AT, I LIKED THE IDEA, I DIDN'T EVEN KNOW THAT THAT WAS A THING TO BE ABLE TO STRUCTURE LIKE A MULTI YEAR THING BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY THOSE ARE BUDGET REALITIES THAT THE COMMISSION WOULD HAVE TO CONSIDER IF WE WERE GOING TO CONTINUE TO BUY THAT LAND. >> COULD YOU ALSO PHASE THE BUILDING OUT OF THE FIELDS? WE'RE GOING TO GET FIELDS, BUT THEN MAYBE IN 2027 OR 2028 THAT WE HAVE TO WAIT, AND THEN WE BUILD X,Y,Z OF IT, LIKE IF YOU PHASE THE BUILD OUT AND YOU GET THE FIELDS BUILT OUT. >> I THINK WHAT I'LL DO IS I'LL HAVE CONVERSATIONS WITH THE CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE ABOUT TWO THINGS. MEMBER SNYDER BROUGHT UP THE FACT OF HAVING A NUMBER WHEN WE COME TO THE COMMISSION REGARDING THE DEVELOPMENT OF THAT LAND NORTH OF THE AIRPORT, IF THAT'S A POSSIBILITY, WHERE EXACTLY ARE THOSE WET LANDS HAVING A TREE SURVEY THAT'S INVOLVED IN THAT? THEN, SECONDLY, I THINK I CAN HAVE CONVERSATIONS, AS MR. PELICAN SAID, OF THE MONEY THAT HOW IT IS PAID. THEN SECONDLY, DO WE WANT TO HAVE CONVERSATIONS WITH THE COUNTY ABOUT ADDITIONAL FUNDING? >> I THINK THE OTHER THING FOR THAT WETLAND AREA IS FIGURING OUT THE EXACT X SPACE. >> YEAH, THAT'S CORRECT. >> CAN A ROAD BE THERE? CAN PARKING BE THERE? >> WE CAN FIND THAT OUT. >> SPACE AROUND THE FIELD, BUT YOUR PEOPLE ARE IF ANYTHING CAN BE DONE. JUST TRYING TO FIGURE OUT THE LAYOUT OF IT, IF YOU CAN'T EVEN PUT A ROAD THERE OR ANYTHING, THAT'S GOING TO SHIFT HOW MUCH SPACE YOU HAVE, [00:50:01] OR IF THAT CAN BE OVERFLOW AND JUST SOME GRAVEL [OVERLAPPING] ARCTURE AND RISK. >> I BELIEVE THAT THEY SAID THAT WHERE THAT X IS NOTHING CAN GO. NO PARKING. THAT WAS ASKED ALREADY CAUSE NO ROAD, NO PARKING. I THINK THE X IS WHERE THE PLANE WOULD LAND IN THEORY AND THAT'S WHY THEY SAY NO ROAD OR PARKING, ANYWHERE WHERE SOMEONE CAN BE STANDING. >> THERE'S 30 ACRES OVER THERE AND I THINK I MENTIONED LAST MEETING OR WHENEVER WE WERE TALKING THIS BEFORE IS I HAD SOME CONVERSATION WITH SOME OF THE TREE PEOPLE, SO THEY DON'T COME AT US WITH PITCHFORKS AND ALL OF THE THINGS. I LIKE THAT BECAUSE THAT'S A VERY SERIOUS CONVERSATION, IF WE'RE TALKING ABOUT CUTTING DOWN THAT MANY TREES IN THAT LARGE EVENT AREA. BUT SO 15 ACRES, THAT'S ROUGHLY HALF OF THAT LAND. THEN WE CAN MAKE SURE THAT IT'S PROTECTED, BUT I WOULD THINK WE WOULD HAVE TO DO SOMETHING VERY THOUGHTFUL WITH PEOPLE WHO ARE MONITORING THE TREE AND THE TREE ORDINANCE TO MAKE SURE THAT WE WERE DOING SOMETHING. I THINK WE COULD USE THAT TO OUR ADVANTAGE IF THAT'S WHERE WE GO AND MAKING SHADE BECAUSE IT GETS SO BLOODY HOT OUT ON THIS FIELD. HOW COULD WE MAKE IT SO IT'S SHADED, MAYBE WHERE YOU HAVE SEATING AND THINGS LIKE THAT? I REALLY THINK THAT WE HAVE TO BE DOING MULTIPLE THINGS AT ONE TIME BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE TIME TO VET ONE THING AND THEN GO, WELL, THAT'S NOT GOING TO WORK AND THEN MOVE ON TO THE NEXT THING. WE NEED TO BE SIMULTANEOUSLY FIGURING OUT WHAT CAN WORK AND HOW WE CAN GET IT ACCOMPLISHED IN MY OPINION. >> SCOTT, THANK YOU SO MUCH. LAST NIGHT WAS A GREAT START IN TRYING TO FIND OUT HOW THE COMMUNITY FEELS ABOUT THINGS AND IT REALLY GOT THE POINT ACROSS LAST NIGHT BECAUSE PEOPLE CAME. THEY WANTED TO BE HEARD ABOUT THEIR DIFFERENT PROJECTS. YOU DID A GREAT JOB IN OUTLINING THE PROS AND CONS OF EACH ONE LAST NIGHT. BUT AS EVERYBODY IS UP HERE IS VERY PASSIONATE ABOUT YBOR AND HOW WE CAN MANAGE AMILA SOCCER, IT'S IN YOUR HANDS, AND LITERALLY AND FIGURATIVELY, BECAUSE YOU HAVE TO GO AND TALK TO THE PEOPLE AND TRY TO GET IT TO GET ANSWERS. NOT THAT YOU HAVEN'T PUT YOUR CELL PHONE ON THE LINE, BUT YOU HAVE IN THE PAST, AND THIS IS PROBABLY THE LAST MAJOR ISSUE FACING WHAT WE HAVE FOR LAND AND THE POSSIBILITY OF USING THIS LAND OR NOT USING THIS LAND. I APPRECIATE EVERYTHING THAT YOU'VE DONE. >> WILL WE MAKE A RECOMMENDATION AS THE PARKS ADVISORY BOARD THEN THAT WE WANT TO KEEP IT ON THE END? CAN WE VOTE? >> I THINK THAT YOU CAN MAKE THAT RECOMMENDATION [OVERLAPPING]. >> I THINK IT WAS FAIRLY FAIR LAST NIGHT THAT EVERYBODY AT THE MEETING WAS IN FAVOR OF THAT FOR THE FULL TOWN HALL. I DIDN'T HEAR ANYBODY SPEAK [OVERLAPPING] THE COUNTY OPTION. I UNDERSTAND LIKE NOT BEING ABLE TO REALLY RECOMMEND ONE OR THE OTHER YET BECAUSE THERE'S A LOT OF IN THE AIR, BUT IT SEEMS TO ME THAT THAT WAS THAT, BUT WE COULD VOTE ON IT. THAT WAY, IT'S STATED THAT THAT IS OUR RECOMMENDATION. IT'S ONE OF THOSE TWO OPTIONS. MOVE FORWARD WITH MEMBER COCCHI WAS SAYING, EXPLORING BOTH, BUT I MAKE A MOTION TO SUPPORT KEEPING SOCCER SOMEWHERE ON THE ISLAND AND THEN WE CAN SHARE THAT. >> I AM COMFORTABLE MAKING THE COMMISSION AWARE OF THAT RECOMMENDATION WHEN IT GOES TO THEIR NEXT WORKSHOP. >> CAN SOMEONE SECOND THE MOTION? >> GO AHEAD AND RAISE THE MOTION. >> I DID. THE SECONDED IT. >> I GOT IT. >> I JUST MOTIONED TO KEEP IT ON THE ISLAND AND MOVE FORWARD LIKE WE SAID. >> SORRY, IT'S A LITTLE JUMBLED. TO KEEP SOCCER ON THE ISLAND IN SOME CAPACITY IS YOUR RECOMMENDATION? >> YEAH, I THINK WE SHOULD ADD THAT WE'D LIKE TO MAKE A PLAN WITH THE TWO OPTIONS, EITHER FIGURE OUT THE WETLANDS AND WHAT NEEDS TO BE DONE THERE OR LOOK AT THE PAYMENT PLANS AND THE OPTIONS AT YBOR, BUT KEEP SOCCER ON THE ISLAND AND FIGURE OUT WHICH ONE OF THOSE TWO IS GOING TO WORK. >> BUT HOW DO WE DO THAT? IF WE WANT TO LOOK AT SOME PAYMENT PLAN OPTION, WHO GOES TO THE AIRPORT AND TALKS ABOUT [OVERLAPPING]. >> MR. COYLE SAID HE'D GO AND INVESTIGATE THAT. >> I THINK THAT THE ANSWER TO THAT QUESTION THAT THE CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE WOULD BE RESPONSIBLE FOR TALKING WITH THE AIRPORT DIRECTOR AND SHE WOULD LEAD THE CHARGE ON THAT. >> WHAT COULD WE EXPECT AT OUR NEXT MEETING? WHAT COULD HAPPEN BY THEN, DO WE THINK? [00:55:01] [OVERLAPPING] IF YOU DON'T MIND, WOULD YOU CALL THE ROLE? >> JUST TO BE CLEAR, MEMBER MOUNTJOY MADE A MOTION TO RECOMMEND THAT SOCCER STAYS ON THE ISLAND IN SOME CAPACITY LOOKING INTO THE LOCATION NEAR THE AIRPORT OR TO KEEP YBOR FIELDS AND SECOND, BY MEMBER CURRY. MEMBER SNYDER? MEMBER PEARLSTINE? >> YEAH. >> VICE CHAIR COCCHI? >> YES. >> CHAIR CAMERA? >> YES. >> MEMBER MOUNTJOY? >> YES. >> MEMBER CURRY? >> YES. >> MEMBER GUNN? >> YES. >> MEMBER PELICAN? >> YES. >> THANK YOU. I APPRECIATE THAT. I THINK TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, MEMBER GUNN, IS THAT I NEED TO CONFIRM THAT WHEN THE NEXT WORKSHOP IS, I DO BELIEVE IT'S A MARCH 3RD. I DON'T THINK IT'S SET IN STONE AT THIS POINT. I THINK THAT I'M GOING TO HAVE CONVERSATIONS WITH THE CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE REGARDING SOME OF YOUR CONCERNS AND SOME OF THE TOPICS THAT WE TALKED ABOUT, AND TO SEE AND CONFIRM THAT WE CAN GET THAT IN FRONT OF THE CITY COMMISSION WHEN THEY'RE MAKING THEIR DECISIONS SO THEY HAVE THAT INFORMATION. IF IT'S AN ESTIMATE ON DEVELOPING THAT LAND THAT'S NORTH OF THE AIRPORT. IF IT'S ALL RIGHT, CAN WE POSSIBLY KEEP SOCCER AT YBOR ALVAREZ, WHERE IT'S MAYBE GETTING A LITTLE BIT MORE MONEY FROM THE COUNTY, OR IS THERE PAYMENTS THAT CAN BE MADE BASED ON THAT VALUE? I THINK I AM GOING TO BE WORKING ON SOME OF THOSE QUESTIONS, AND I THINK PRIOR TO THE MEETING, I THINK THERE WILL BE EMAILS COMING OUT FROM ME TO THE GROUP AS A WHOLE. NOW, GRANTED, WE CAN'T HAVE THESE CONVERSATIONS GOING BACK AND FORTH WITH SUNSHINE, BUT I CAN GET YOU THAT INFORMATION. >> DO YOU THINK WE'LL HAVE THE WETLANDS STUDY DONE BY MARCH 3RD? >> NO. >> NO. >> I THINK THAT WE COULD HAVE POSSIBLY A PRETTY DECENT HANDLE ON, IS THERE WETLANDS THERE AND ABOUT WHERE ARE THEY? HOW MUCH ACREAGE ABOUT ARE THEY? >> WE CAN HAVE AN IDEA IF IT'S [OVERLAPPING]. >> POSSIBLY I DON'T WANT TO SAY YES OR NO, BUT I CAN. >> GO AHEAD. >> JUST ONE FURTHER POINT. I'D LIKE THE BOARD TO CONSIDER THE CITY REFUSING TO VACATE YBOR ALVAREZ AND THEN TAKE IT TO COURT. [LAUGHTER] >> BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH OF THAT? >> WELL, THE CITY OWNED THE LAND ORIGINALLY. THEY LEASED IT TO THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT TO BUILD THAT AIRPORT DURING THE WAR. FEDERAL GOVERNMENT GAVE IT BACK WITH CONDITIONS. I DON'T KNOW IF THIS HAS BEEN TESTED, BUT THAT COULD DRAG ON FOR YEARS POSSIBLY, AS FAR AS YOU JUST STAY AND MAKE YOU GET OFF THAT LAND SOMEHOW. >> THAT WOULD BE A CONVERSATION THAT I WOULD HAVE TO BRING UP WITH CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE. >> I JUST WANTED TO PLANT THE SEED, IF ANYONE. >> CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE. [LAUGHTER] >> WELL, OF COURSE, THOSE WOULD BE CONVERSATIONS THAT WOULD BE HAD WITH CITY MANAGERS, CITY ATTORNEY AND THE CITY COMMISSIONERS ALL. >> CAN I JUST MADE A SUGGESTION THAT WE MAYBE DON'T CALL IT THE WETLANDS. IT'S POSSIBLE THERE ARE SOME WETLANDS ON THAT PROPERTY, BUT I DON'T THINK THE WHOLE PROPERTY IS WETLANDS, SO WE MAYBE SHOULD NOT MISCHARACTERIZE IT AS. >> HOW DID THAT GET STARTED? >> WELL, BECAUSE THERE COULD BE WETLANDS THERE. >> THERE COULD BE POSSIBLE WETLANDS WITHIN THE AREA THAT IS IN THAT 20 ACRE ZONE THAT WE'RE DISCUSSING. IF THERE ARE WETLANDS WITHIN THERE, WE'RE NOT EXACTLY SURE WHAT PART OF THAT ACREAGE IT TAKES UP OR POSSIBLE CORNERS. I GREATLY APPRECIATE YOU GUYS HAVING VERY STRONG FEELINGS ON THIS. I DO THINK THAT YOU UNANIMOUSLY SAID THAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO HAVE IT ON THE ISLAND. I DO THINK THAT THAT SPEAKS VOLUMES. I APPRECIATE YOU DOING THAT. I THINK THAT THAT WILL BE PART OF THE CONVERSATION, TOO. I DO APPRECIATE YOU BEING VERY INTO THIS CONVERSATION. >> THANK YOU. >> WOULD YOU LIKE TO STAY UP THERE? >> MR. BIGGERS IS GOING TO, I THINK, GO FIRST IF YOU DON'T MIND. >> I DO NOT MIND. >> GOOD EVENING, EVERYBODY. JEFFREY BIGGERS, [7.1 Staff Updates (Golf Club And Parks & Recreation To Update Committee On Projects And Programs)] GENERAL MANAGER FOR BERNY BEACH GOLF CLUB. I'M GOING TO GO THROUGH OUR GOLF STAFF UPDATES AND REPORT FROM JANUARY AND IF YOU'VE GOT ANY QUESTIONS. >> CAN'T TELL WHO THAT IS. >> IT MIGHT BE SOMEONE IN THE DAIS. [01:00:03] >> I'M GOING TO GO THROUGH THOSE. IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, JUST LET ME KNOW. WE'LL START WITH THE GOLF SHOP, DECEMBER NUMBERS. OUR GOLF REVENUES WERE UP 34% FROM DECEMBER ROUNDS OF GOLF, 03,040, WHICH WAS UP SUBSTANTIALLY FROM DECEMBER OF '24. BASICALLY, WE AVERAGED OVER 100 ROUNDS PER DAY IN DECEMBER. >> TOTAL GOLF REVENUES 119,434, WHICH WAS UP FROM 89,045 IN DECEMBER OF 24, SO WE'RE CONTINUING THAT MOVE OF INCREASED REVENUE INCREASED ROUNDS. AND OBVIOUSLY, THE WEATHER HAS A LOT TO DO WITH IT. AS YOU LOOK AT THOSE NUMBERS, THE ROUNDS WERE UP AS FAR AS TOTAL DOLLAR PER CART AND GREENF ROUND TO $30.49 ACROSS THE BOARD. THAT'S EVERY ROUND, WHICH IS GOOD. THESE NUMBERS ARE CONTINUING. JANUARY IS GOING IN THE SAME DIRECTION AS WE'VE HAD GOOD WEATHER. LAST YEAR, I THINK WE HAD A REALLY BAD WEEK IN JANUARY WITH THE WEATHER, SO WE'LL SEE WHERE THAT GOES THIS YEAR, BUT SO FAR IN JANUARY, THERE'S TRENDING AS WELL. FOOD AND BEVERAGE WISE. >> BEFORE YOU GO THERE? >> YES. >> I WAS JUST CURIOUS BECAUSE ALL OF THOSE NUMBERS ARE UP. ARE YOU SEEING ANY IMPACT FROM THE OPENING OF A MILAN NATIONAL OR THE PEOPLE WHO HAD MOVED? ARE YOU SEEING THAT YET? >> WELL, I THINK THAT'S GOING TO BE SOMETHING GRADUAL AS WE GET ACROSS THE BOARD. THEY WERE PLAYING TWO TO THREE DAYS A WEEK, HAD 10 OR 12 PEOPLE PLAY ON THOSE DAYS. THOSE DAYS ARE A LITTLE SLOWER IN THE MORNINGS, BUT AS FAR AS TOTAL REVENUES IN TOTAL ROUNDS, IT'S GOING TO BE HARD TO COMPARE IMMEDIATELY JUST BECAUSE, LAST YEAR IN JANUARY OR DECEMBER, MAYBE IT WASN'T AS GOOD A WEATHER? BUT THEN WE DIDN'T HAVE THEM IN UNTIL ABOUT MARCH. IT'S GOING TO BE A THING WHERE WE'LL SEE. AGAIN, LIKE I SAID LAST MEETING, MY GUESSTIMATE IS PROBABLY ABOUT 50,000 IN CART GREEN FEES TOTAL REVENUES, THE LOSS OF NOT HAVING THEM OVER THOSE EIGHT MONTHS, BUT WE DID HAVE A COUPLE THAT STAYED ON AND JOINED, AND THEY'RE STILL PLAYING HERE AND THERE. >> THANK YOU. >> THAT GOES INTO FOOD AND BEVERAGE TOO BECAUSE THEY DID USE US EAT AFTER THE ROUNDS AND WHATNOT. FOR DECEMBER, THOSE REVENUES WERE DOWN JUST SLIGHTLY. WE HAD A COUPLE LESS EVENTS THAN THE PREVIOUS YEAR. DECEMBER IS ALWAYS KEY TO WHAT DAYS OF THE WEEK AND WHEN YOU CAN HAVE YOUR EVENT. MOST OF THESE ARE CHRISTMAS EVENTS, HOLIDAY EVENTS, NOT ALL. THE BIGGEST THING TOO WITH THOSE NUMBERS BEING THAT I THINK IS MORE ALCOHOL SALES. WE DIDN'T SELL AS MUCH WINE. MAYBE PEOPLE AREN'T DRINKING AS MUCH WHEN THEY'RE HAVING THEIR PARTIES, BUT THAT WAS ONE AREA THAT I NOTICED THAT WAS DOWN A LITTLE BIT. OVERALL, THOUGH, HAVING OVER 50,000 DOING THAT IN A MONTH IS REALLY GOOD FOR US. DECEMBER IS TYPICALLY OUR BIGGEST MONTH. I JUST LISTED WHAT WE HAD GOING ON. AS YOU CAN SEE, IT'S ALMOST SOMETHING EVERY DAY IN THOSE FIRST THREE WEEKS. I GUESS THE BIGGEST WAS THE CITY AWARDS BREAKFAST. I WAS REALLY APPRECIATIVE OF STAFF KRISTIE BENJAMIN AND OUR F&B TO SERVE 155 PEOPLE IN A HOORDLY FASHION. THAT'S ABOUT AS MANY AS WE CAN HANDLE IN THERE, AND WE HAD PEOPLE COMING ALL OVER THE PLACE AND THE AWARDS CEREMONY WENT GREAT. ANOTHER ONE WAS THE 16TH, THE YOUTH ADVISORY BOARD, THE TRIVIA NIGHT. THAT WENT REALLY WELL. WE HAD NO IDEA REALLY HOW MANY WERE GOING TO SHOW UP, BUT WE ENDED UP WITH SERVING ABOUT 55 PLUS, AND THAT TURNED INTO A REAL GOOD EVENING. MOVING ON TO GOLF COURSE MAINTENANCE. A COUPLE OF THINGS WE'VE HAD GOING ON THERE. WE'RE STILL IN THE PROCESS OF GETTING SOME OF THE EQUIPMENT TO COMPLETE OUR NORTHWELL PROJECT. I MENTIONED EMAILED THE VENDOR THIS WEEK, AND HE'S HOPING TO HAVE THOSE LAST PARTS IN BY THE END OF THE MONTH, AND WE'RE GOING TO START AS SOON AS POSSIBLE. WE NEED TO GET THAT DONE IN THIS FISCAL YEAR. THE IRRIGATION CONTROL SYSTEM. THAT BID, HOPEFULLY IS GOING TO GO OUT BY THE END OF THE MONTH. IF YOU'RE NOT AWARE OF WHAT THAT IS, THIS IS NOT THE PIPES IN THE GROUND. IT'S BASICALLY A CONTROL SYSTEM THAT CONTROLS OUR HARDWARE BETWEEN THE COMPUTER AND THE RADIO CONTROLLED ANTENNAS ON THE GOLF COURSE THAT ESTABLISHES ALL THAT COMMUNICATION BACK AND FORTH BETWEEN THE IRRIGATION AND THE SATELLITES AND BASICALLY RUNS THE WATER OUT THERE. IT WILL BE INTEGRATED BETWEEN THAT SYSTEM, OUR PUMP HOUSE, AND OUR TWO WATER SOURCES. WE'RE EXCITED ABOUT HAVING THAT PUT IN BECAUSE MOST OF THAT EQUIPMENT IS PRETTY ANTIQUATED. IT'S 2,000 MAYBE 16, I THINK IS THE LAST TIME ANY OF THAT HAS BEEN UPDATED. >> IS THE PUMP I KNOW YOU REPLACED THAT ONE PUMP EARLIER THIS YEAR. DO WE HAVE A FULL WATER RUNNING [OVERLAPPING] >> THERE WAS A PUMP HOUSE REPLACE OUR ACTUAL PUMP HOUSE REPLACED PRIOR TO ME BEING HERE IN 2023. WE DID ADD A WELL. THAT'S PROBABLY WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT. WE HAVE NOW HAVE TWO SOURCES OF WATER, AND THAT'LL BE SOMETHING WE'LL BE LOOKING INTO NEXT YEAR BECAUSE WE'RE GOING TO HAVE [01:05:02] THE ORIGINAL EXISTING WELL PROBABLY PULLED AND CHECKED BY ST. JOHN'S WATER AUTHORITIES. >> IS THAT THE THING THAT ANDRE IS GOING TO CONNECT INTO, OR IS THAT? >> THAT WOULD BE THE RECLAIM WATER EVENTUALLY AT SOME POINT. THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING WHERE YEAH, IT'S FIVE, SEVEN YEARS DOWN THE LINE, AND THEN THEN OUR WELLS WOULD BE OUR BACKUP AT THAT TIME FOR A WATER SOURCE. THERE COULD BE POTENTIAL THERE WHERE, WE CHARGE FOR THAT, SO WE CAN MAKE MONEY OFF THE RECLAIM WATER. I'M NOT EXACTLY SURE HOW THAT WORKS, BUT THAT'S DOWN THE LINE. JUST OTHER ODDS AND ENDS, WE'VE TRIMMED UP NUMEROUS PALM TREES FOR WHAT WE COULD REACH. WE DON'T HAVE A LIFT AT THE CLUB, BUT IT'S REALLY LOOKED GOOD AROUND THE CLUBHOUSE. WE'VE BEEN REMOVING VINES ON THE GOLF COURSE, A LOT OF OUT OF SEASON NOT MOWING BUSY WORK TO KEEP THE GUYS GOING AND JUST CLEAR UP AREAS. EDGE OUR BUNKERS. I THINK OUR BUNKERS LOOK AS GOOD AS THEY'VE BEEN SINCE I'VE BEEN THERE, AND WE'VE SPRAYED SOME APPLICATIONS. FOR SOME OF THE WINTER WEEDS AS WELL AS THE POANIA. WE JUST SPRAYED LAST WEEK FOR POANIA. THAT COMES IN, USUALLY WHEN IT COOLS OFF A LITTLE, AND IT'S A NASTY GRASS THAT GETS ON THE GOLF COURSE AND USUALLY FORMS SOMETIME BETWEEN FEBRUARY, MARCH AND APRIL, UNTIL IT GETS HOT ENOUGH TO BURN IT OUT. BASICALLY, WHAT IT DOES, IT MAKES THE GREENS REAL BUMPY. IF YOU EVER PLAY GOLF, THEY HAVE ALL THESE LITTLE GREEN PATCHES ON IT. IT'S JUST SOMETHING YOU DEAL WITH EVERY YEAR JUST BECAUSE OF THE WEATHER. TRY NOT TO HIT THOSE WHEN YOU'RE PUTTING. FINALLY, WE CONTRACTED OUT SOUTHERN EARTHWORKS TO LIFT THE CANOPY. ALL OF THE TREES AROUND THE CLUBHOUSE WERE DOWN TOUCHING THE ROOF LINE. WE GOT THEM TO COME IN AND LIFT THOSE SIX TO EIGHT FEET OFF THE ROOF, AND WE MAY EVEN LOOK FURTHER DOWN THE LINE TO MAYBE TAKING MORE OF THOSE LIMBS OFF DEPENDING. IT JUST DEPENDS ON HOW MUCH MONEY WE HAVE IN THE BUDGET TO DO THAT. WE'VE DONE A LOT OF TREE WORK SO FAR THIS YEAR. THAT'S GOLF COURSE MAINTENANCE AT THIS TIME. THE NEXT PAGE, CLUBHOUSE IMPROVEMENTS. LIKE WE SAID EARLIER, I THINK WE MENTIONED, WE ARE BEGINNING THIS CLUBHOUSE BAR IMPROVEMENT. THE PAINTING STARTED ON DECEMBER 22ND, THEY WILL HAVE TO COME BACK IN AND TOUCH UP ON THE BACK END OF THIS PROJECT, BUT WE STARTED ON THE 5TH WITH THE BAR, AND THEY'RE REALLY COMING ALONG GOOD THERE. IT'S JUST A LITTLE NOISY IN THE BUILDING RIGHT NOW. WE PICKED OUT FRIDAY, THE QUARTS FOR THE COUNTER FOR THE BAR AREA. HOPEFULLY, ALL OF THE BAR BUILDING WILL BE COMPLETE BY 26TH OF JANUARY. THAT'S THAT'S THE GOAL. THEN FROM THERE WE'RE GOING TO HAVE FLOORING PUT IN FOLLOWING THAT. IT'D BE REALLY NICE, MAYBE THE FIRST WEEK OF FEBRUARY TO HAVE ALL THIS CONSTRUCTION COMPLETE. >> WHAT FLOORING, ARE YOU PUTTING IN THERE? >> IT'S KIND OF A FAKE WOOD. KIND OF LONG [OVERLAPPING] THAT'S IT. >> IT'S NOT CARPET. >> NO. WE STILL KEEP SOME CARPET IN THERE, BUT IT'S GOING TO GO IN THE ENTRANCE WAY AND THEN TO THE LEFT TOWARDS THE BAR. WE'LL STILL HAVE SOME CARPET IN THERE, ESPECIALLY IN THE BACK AREA. IT'S COMING ALONG. THAT IMAGE THERE IS ACTUALLY OF THE PAINTING. ANNUAL MEMBERSHIP SALES, AS OF LAST TUESDAY, WE'RE UP TO 162, SO WE'RE LEVELING OUT THERE, BUT WE ARE AT 93% OF OUR BUDGET FOR TOTAL REVENUE OUT OF THE MEMBERSHIPS. SET A GOAL TO SEE IF WE COULD SELL 200. IF WE DO THAT, WE'LL HIT OUR MARK. I THINK THE LAST YEAR WERE AROUND 89-90% OF OUR MEMBERSHIP DOLLAR REVENUES. >> JEFFREY, CAN YOU REMIND ME HOW THAT WORKS. IF YOU BUY IT TODAY, IS IT FOR THE YEAR OR IS IT PRO RATED OR IS IT? >> WE HAVE CHANGED IT IF YOU BOUGHT TODAY, IT WILL LAST GOOD FOR ONE FULL YEAR. GO INTO DIFFERENT FISCAL YEARS, WHICH IS REALLY HELPFUL. SAME THING IF YOU DID JOIN AND BOUGHT OUR RANGE PLAN WOULD BE THE SAME THING GOING. IT DOESN'T END SEPTEMBER 30TH AT THE END OF THE FISCAL YEAR, SO LET'S SEE. MARKETING WISE, THE SAME ITEMS THERE. I DO WANT TO EXPAND ON WHAT WE'VE DONE WITH OUR FACEBOOK PAGE. GO INTO THE PRO SHOP HOLIDAY SALE. WE HAD A REALLY GOOD SALE. WE DID ABOUT 1,600 THE LAST TWO YEARS. WE DID ALMOST OVER 3,400, SO WE HAD A REALLY BIG DAY THAT SATURDAY. MARGINS WEREN'T SUPER GREAT, BUT WE DID MOVE A LOT OF MERCHANDISE. I THINK IT'S KIND OF REFLECTIVE OF US HAVING MORE MERCHANDISE IN THAN MAYBE WHAT WE'VE HAD IN THE PAST COUPLE OF YEARS, AND A LITTLE MORE VARIETY. MENTIONING AGAIN WITH THE USE ADVISORY COMMITTEE I SHOWED SOME PICTURES THERE. IT REALLY WAS GOOD ATTENDANCE AS WE WERE A LITTLE NERVOUS HOW IT WOULD TURN OUT, [01:10:01] AND MAYBE THIS WILL BE SOMETHING WE HAVE MORE OFTEN AT THE CLUB. WE'RE LOOKING TO DO OTHER THINGS IN THAT AREA AND MORE TIMES OUT OF THE YEAR, SO DID WANT TO MENTION MARY POOL. IF ANYBODY'S EVER BEEN TO THE GOLF COURSE, YOU'VE HAD TO SEE MARY POOL. SHE'S BEEN THERE, RETIRED AT THE END OF THE YEAR, 27 YEARS, ALWAYS A SMILING FACE. ABSOLUTELY AWESOME. WE DID A LITTLE PICTURE WITH A FLAG IN IT, THAT'S A FLAG FROM THE GOLF COURSE, AND WE HAD STAFF SIGN IT. WE HOPE TO BE SEEING MORE OF HER OUT PLAYING GOLF NOW. UPCOMING EVENTS FOR JANUARY. JUST TO TOUCH BASED ON A COUPLE OF THOSE. AGAIN, THAT BAR RENOVATION, BEGINNING ON THE 5TH, WE'RE HOPING THE 26TH BAR IS DONE, AND WE'LL START WITH THE FLOORING AND HAVE THAT HOPEFULLY THE FIRST WEEK OF FEBRUARY COMPLETED. THE TWO MAN TOURNAMENT ON THE 17TH, WHICH IS COMING UP HERE THIS WEEK. THAT FORMAT IS NOT A 666 AS ON THERE. IT'S ACTUALLY A TWO PERSON CHAT MAN. I THINK THE TOURNAMENT COMMITTEES BEEN KIND OF CHANGING THEIR FORMAT. I DID WANT TO MENTION THAT. BASICALLY, IT'S WHERE BOTH PLAYERS HIT A T BALL. THEY GO PLAY THE OTHER PERSON'S BALL, AND FROM THERE, THEY TAKE THE BEST SHOT AND PLAY ALTERNATE SHOT UNTIL THE BALLS HOLD. MURDER MYSTERY EVENT. WE'RE HOSTING TWO OF THOSE. IT WILL BE PROBABLY DURING SOME OF THIS CONSTRUCTION, BUT IT'LL BE IN THE BACK ROOMS IF YOU'RE INTERESTED IN MAYBE COMING OUT TO THE CLUB AND AND ENTERTAINING YOURSELF WITH THAT. YOU JUST GO TO WHODUNIT PLAYERS THEATER.COM AND THEY'LL HAVE TICKETS FOR SALE THERE. WE'RE HAVING TWO OF THOSE, THE 22ND AND THE 24TH AT THE GOLF COURSE AND I GUESS, FINALLY, WITH THE UPCOMING EVENTS, WE WILL HAVE OUR FRIDAY NIGHT DINNER, THE END OF THE MONTH ON THE 30TH. IT'LL BE AN ITALIAN NIGHT BUFFET STYLE MENU, 24.95 FOR MEMBERS AND 2.95 FOR GUESTS. THE LAST THING ON MY LIST, THE TOURNAMENT AT THE BOTTOM ON THE 31ST, THAT KIND OF STARTS A STRING OF US. THAT'S ONE THING WE'RE TRYING TO DO TO GENERATE MORE REVENUE TO GET MORE PEOPLE SEE THE GOLF COURSE. WE'VE GOT SOMETHING EVERY WEEK, PRETTY MUCH, INCLUDING OUR MEMBERS EVENT FROM THE END OF JANUARY UNTIL WE HIT ABOUT THE 1ST MARCH. EVERY SATURDAY, WE HAVE A LITTLE SOMETHING. I'LL EXPAND ON MORE OF THAT NEXT MONTH WHEN YOU SEE THOSE AND MOST OF THOSE ARE 60-100 PLAYER SHOTGUN TOURNAMENTS. WITH THAT ANY QUESTIONS OR ANYTHING ABOUT THE GOLF UPDATE? THANK YOU FOR SUPPORTING THE GOLF COURSE. APPRECIATE IT. >> THANKS, MR. WIGGERS. I JUST WANTED TO SAY REALLY QUICKLY, I THINK THE HARD WORK THAT MR. WIGGERS IS DOING AT THE GOLF COURSE IS DEFINITELY SHOWING. I APPRECIATE EACH ONE OF YOU SUPPORTING THE GOLF COURSE AS WELL. WE GREATLY APPRECIATE THE CITY COMMISSION THAT HAS SUPPORTED THE GOLF COURSE THE LAST FEW YEARS. WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE TO PUSH AND WE'RE GETTING THERE. WE UNDERSTAND THAT WE'RE AN ENTERPRISE FUND, AND OUR GOAL IS TO BE PROFITABLE. WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE TO DO THAT AS WE CONTINUE TO BEAUTIFY THE COURSE, WE DO THINK WE'LL HAVE MORE AND MORE PLAY. THANK YOU FOR YOUR SUPPORT. GOING ALONG WITH THAT, MISS RIVERA, THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE TONIGHT AS ALWAYS. THIS GOES BACK AND I'M GOING TO JUMP AROUND JUST REALLY QUICKLY IS JANUARY 20TH. WE HAVE A SPECIAL EVENTS. PRESENTATION WILL BE GIVEN TO THE CITY COMMISSION. IT'S A WORKSHOP, JANUARY 20TH, AM I CORRECT? KATY HAS SPENT MANY YEARS. >> YEAR [LAUGHTER] >> I HATE TO SAY THAT YEARS. BUT IT HAS BEEN YEARS. WE'RE GOING THROUGH THE SPECIAL EVENT PROCESS. WE HAVE TAKEN SOME OF THE ITEMS THAT YOU ALL HAVE SUGGESTED. THAT IS GOING TO GO TO THE COMMISSION ON A WORKSHOP. THERE ARE NO DECISIONS NECESSARILY VOTES AT A WORKSHOP, BUT THE COMMISSION WILL BE REVIEWING WHAT WE ARE PRESENTING TO THAT. ON THE 20TH, AND THEN WE WILL TAKE THOSE RECOMMENDATIONS AND THEN MAKE SOME ADJUSTMENTS IF ADJUSTMENTS NEED TO BE MADE, AND THEN WE WILL TAKE THAT BACK TO THE COMMISSION FOR FINAL APPROVAL, ALONG WITH A POSSIBLE ORDINANCE CHANGE AT THE SAME TIME. THAT MAY HAPPEN WHEN IT GOES BACK TO THE COMMISSION, MAYBE IN THE FEBRUARY TIME FRAME, AM I CORRECT? SAYING THAT? I JUST WANTED TO SAY THANK YOU FOR YOUR HARD WORK ON THAT. MOVING FORWARD, I JUST HAVE A FEW UPDATES AS WE GO THROUGH HERE. THE INTERIOR PAINTING AT THE ARC, AQUATICS BUILDING AND FITNESS CENTER IS COMPLETE. BEACH ACCESS 33 IS COMPLETE. [01:15:02] THE GREENFIELD AT EGAN CREEK PARK, WE HAVE INSTALLED ALL THE EQUIPMENT THERE. WE HAVE BRAND NEW EQUIPMENT WITHIN THE LAST TWO YEARS. IF YOU REMEMBER, WE RECEIVED A 50% DISCOUNT FROM GREENFIELD DUE TO SOME RUSTING. WE DID GET WHEN WE UPGRADED IT, WE DID GO WITH GALVANIZED. OBVIOUSLY, THAT'S GOING TO LAST A LOT LONGER. >> GAGLIARDI FIELD, WHICH IS PART OF THE CONVERSATIONS THAT WE'VE BEEN HAVING. WE HAVE FINISHED THE FENCING BACK THERE IS BRAND NEW, ALONG WITH THE SPORTS NETTING ON THE BACK SOUTH AND THE LEFT FIELD SIDE, TWO TO THE HOUSES OUT THERE. BEACH ACCESS 9. I HAVE RECEIVED THE INITIAL DESIGN WORK. WE ARE IN THE PROCESS OF GETTING THE BID DOCUMENTS TOGETHER. I BELIEVE I HAD SENT THAT OUT TO THE GROUP. THERE WAS SOME QUESTIONS FROM SOME COMMITTEE MEMBERS. I WAS ACTUALLY OUT OF THE OFFICE LAST THURSDAY AND FRIDAY. I WAS SICK. IF YOU HAD REACHED OUT TO ME REGARDING THAT, I WILL REACH BACK OUT TO YOU FOR CONVERSATIONS, AND I CAN DO THAT THIS WEEK. >> IS THAT SOMETHING THAT WE CAN SEE HERE? YOU'RE ALREADY WORKING ON BID DOCUMENTS. >> WORKING ON BID DOCUMENTS, IT DOES TAKE A LITTLE WHILE, BUT IF YOU'RE REQUESTING THAT I PRESENT TO YOU, I FEEL UNCOMFORTABLE DOING THAT. >> I TRIED TO LOOK AT THE DRAWINGS, AND I WAS HAVING A HARD TIME UNDERSTANDING THEM THAT COULD THE COMPLETE OPERATOR ERROR. I DEFINITELY WANTED TO UNDERSTAND THAT. I THINK THAT'S A VERY POPULAR AREA, AND I KNOW THAT THEY'RE DOING SOME STREET CROSSING THING THERE THAT'S GOING TO CHANGE, BUT I WAS REALLY INTERESTED IN UNDERSTANDING THAT. I DIDN'T REALIZE IT WAS SO FAR DOWN THE ROAD. >> IT'S JUST THE INITIAL DESIGN. THEN ONCE WE DO GET THE DESIGN, WE TEND TO GO INTO THE BID DOCUMENTS TO TAKE IT OUT TO BID. I THINK WITHIN THAT TIME FRAME, I CAN SHOW YOU, WE HAVE INCORPORATED IN THAT CROSSWALK. WE INCORPORATED A RAMP FOR A LOT OF PROGESTAN TRAFFIC THAT COMES OFF OF JASMINE STREET THAT THEY COULD WALK UP, AND THEN ALSO KEEP THE STAIRS THAT ARE THERE AS WELL. >> AT OUR NEXT MEETING, IF YOU COULD JUST SHOW IT TO US. >> I CAN SHOW IT TO YOU AND EXPLAIN THE DESIGN. IF THERE ARE ANY CONCERNS, I'D BE HAPPY TO ADDRESS THOSE. >> IF I'M THE ONLY PERSON WHO'S STRUGGLING WITH IT THEN WE CAN DO IT PRIVATELY, BUT I JUST WOULD LIKE TO SEE IT BECAUSE THAT'S A LOT OF CHANGE THERE. >> RIGHT NOW THERE IS JUST ONE SET OF STAIRS. THE CHANGE WOULD BE THE RAMP ON THE SOUTHERN SIDE. THEN WE'RE BUILDING IN SOME BULKHEAD AREA TO HELP WITH THE SAND, OBVIOUSLY TO KEEP THE SAND OFF THE BOARDWALK. >> THANK YOU. >> THE THIRD PHASE OF THE WINDOW REPLACEMENT, WORKING WITH FACILITIES MAINTENANCE AND THE FIRST PHASE OF MLK. WE'RE GOING TO GO THROUGH THE SAME PHASES AT THE MARTIN LUTHER KING RECREATION CENTER AND REPLACING THE WINDOWS THAT ARE LONG OVERDUE. I WILL SHORTLY BE FINALIZING A CONTRACTOR FOR THE COLUMBARIUM. I AM STILL WORKING ON THAT. I HOPE TO HAVE THAT DONE SHORTLY. >> SCOTT, I HAD A QUICK QUESTION ABOUT THAT FROM LAST NIGHT IN THE IMPACT FEE LIST. I THINK IT HAD 65 OR $85,000 FOR THE COLUMBARIUM. >> THAT IS WHAT'S IN THIS BUDGET. >> I WAS CURIOUS ABOUT THAT BECAUSE WOULD THAT NOT COME OUT OF THE MONEY THAT IS FOR BOSQUE BELLO OR WHY? I HAD IN MY MIND THAT IT WAS SEPARATE FUNDING THAT WAS NOT COMING OUT OF PARKS AND RACK. >> IT IS GROWTH. IT IS BUDGETED IN THE IMPACT FEE MONEY THIS YEAR. I THINK THE WAY THAT NOW THAT'S JUST THE DESIGN. I THINK THE WAY THAT WE LOOK AT FUNDING THE PROJECTS. THAT'S JUST THE DESIGN. DEPENDING ON HOW WE LOOK AT AND HOW TO HAVE TO WORK WITH THE CITY ATTORNEY AND HOW WE FUND THE ACTUAL BUILD, AND WHAT PERCENTAGES AND WHAT PHASES THAT WE BUILD, ARE WE ABLE TO TAKE FUNDING OUT OF THE PERPETUAL CARE FUND AND POSSIBLY PAY THAT BACK? I THINK THAT'S A LEGAL QUESTION. SECONDLY, IS CAN WE PRE-SALE AND POSSIBLY USE THAT MONEY [01:20:04] TO PUT IN AN ACCOUNT TO HELP PAY FOR IT AS WE GO THROUGH THE PROCESS AND A PHASED APPROACH. INSTEAD OF BUILDING IT OUT IN ITS ENTIRETY, WE LOOK AT A PHYSICALLY CONSERVATIVE APPROACH OF PHASING IT OUT AND WHAT IS THE BEST OF ECONOMICS. >> I THINK I HAD JUST REMEMBERED THAT WE WERE TALKING ABOUT PRE-SELLING OR SOMETHING WHERE IT WAS BASICALLY FUNDING ITSELF, AND THAT'S WHY I WAS CONFUSED ABOUT THE IMPACT. >> I WILL HAVE MORE OF THOSE ANSWERS AS WE GO ALONG THE PROCESS. >> THANK YOU. >> THEN WE DO HAVE SOME UPCOMING SPECIAL EVENTS. THE CITY OFFICES ARE CLOSED ON MARTIN LUTHER KING, SO HOPEFULLY YOU'LL BE ABLE TO ENJOY THE PARADE ON THAT DAY. THEN EMILIA ISLAND MONTESSORI CHILI OFF IS FEBRUARY 7TH. OUR NEXT MEETING IS FEBRUARY 10TH. THAT IS ALL I HAVE. IF THERE'S NOT ANY QUESTIONS FOR ME. >> THANK. SCOTT, I HAVE JUST TWO. WITH THE DAMAGE THAT WAS DONE TO THE COLUMBARIUM FENCING AT BOSQUE BELLO? >> THERE WAS DAMAGE AT THE CEMETERY. I BELIEVE THAT WAS POSTED ON SOCIAL MEDIA. IT ACTUALLY HAPPENED THROUGH ONE OF THE GRAVE DIGGERS. THEY REACHED OUT TO US AND SENT US AN EMAIL ON SUNDAY. THEY ARE AWARE OF IT, WHERE WE'VE COMPLETED AN INCIDENT REPORT, AND WE ARE WORKING WITH THEM TO GET A QUOTE, AND THEN THEY WILL PAY TO REPAIR IT. >> THERE WERE A LOT OF DAMAGE. >> IT WAS TWO PANELS IN A POST. >> YEAH, AND A POST. >> WE ARE AWARE OF IT. THEY WERE THE ONES THAT DID IT, AND WE WILL GET IT FIXED. >> I JUST WANTED TO MAKE IT. >> THAT'S GREAT. DID THEY REACH OUT?. >> YES. IT WAS. >> THE GRAVE DIGGERS IS THOSE ARE CONTRACTED THROUGH, LET'S JUST SAY OXLEY-HURD. OXLEY-HURD WOULD CONTRACT OUT. THEY PROVIDE US WITH INSURANCE. THEY ADD US AS ADDITIONALLY INSURED AS WELL. BUT THEY DID REACH OUT AND LET US KNOW. >> THANK YOU. >> YES. >> THE NEXT THING IS, I JUST WANT TO SAY REACH OUT. THE MONTH OF DECEMBER AND THE MONTH OF JANUARY ARE VERY BUSY FOR THE MAINTENANCE DEPARTMENT FOR THE CITY, GETTING READY FOR CHRISTMAS, TAKING DOWN THE STUFF FOR CHRISTMAS, AND ALSO MAINTAINING THE BALL FIELDS. THESE GUYS ARE STRETCHED. I'M TELLING YOU THEY JUST KEEP PUSHING EVERY DAY. I WANT TO THANK THEM PERSONALLY FOR THEIR GREAT JOB THAT THEY HAVE DONE TO GET THE BALL FIELDS IN CONDITION SO WE CAN START TONIGHT IN THE COLD IS THE FIRST NIGHT OF PRACTICES. MARCH THE 7TH IS OPENING DAY, AND THE SUPERINTENDENT HAS PROMISED ME THAT STUFF WILL BE READY TO GO. HE'S GOT TWO-THIRDS OF THE STUFF DONE ALREADY. IT'S A GREAT THING, AND I APPRECIATE EVERYTHING THAT THEY DO. >> THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THAT UP AND YOU DO BRING THAT UP A LOT. I WILL MAKE SURE AND WE CONSTANTLY REMIND THEM THAT YOU ARE VERY GRATEFUL TO THEM, SO WE WILL CONTINUE TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY ARE AWARE OF IT. THEY ARE A HUGE PART OF PARKS AND RECREATION. >> WE ARE SO FORTUNATE TO HAVE SUCH A GREAT CREW TO STICK TOGETHER THROUGH THE COLD, THE HOT AND THE WET. THEY NEVER KNOW WHAT THEY'RE GOING TO FACE THE NEXT DAY, BUT THEY'RE OUT THERE WORKING. DURING THAT TWO-AND-A-HALF WEEKS PRIOR TO GETTING READY FOR CHRISTMAS, THEY'RE OUT THERE PUTTING THE LIGHTS UP. THEY'RE OUT THERE DOING THE TREE. THEY'RE REALLY AN IMPORTANT PART OF OUR ORGANIZATION. THIS CITY DOESN'T KNOW HOW LUCKY WE ARE. THANK YOU, SCOTT. I'LL START. CHAIR, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING? [8. BOARD MEMBER COMMENTS] >> JUST TWO THINGS. WITH THE START OF THE ROUNDABOUT CONSTRUCTION, THERE'S JUST SOME CONCERN FROM AT LEAST THE LADIES GROUP, ESPECIALLY WITH THE CART PATH CROSSING ON AMY ISLAND PARKWAY, KNOWING THAT THERE'S GOING TO BE A LOT MORE TRAFFIC PROBABLY PUSHING PARKWAY POTENTIALLY. OBVIOUSLY, IT'S A STATE PROJECT OR IT'S GOING TO BE RUN BY THEM, [01:25:02] BUT WE JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT MAYBE YOU GUYS HAVE A VOICE INTO INCREASING SOME SIGNAGE THROUGHOUT THAT AREA, MAYBE ADDING EXTRA CAUTION OR SLOW SPEAK CONTROL DEVICES IN THAT ONE AREA. BECAUSE I KNOW THAT ROUNDABOUT CONSTRUCTION IS DEFINITELY GOOD. THE OTHER CONCERN, OBVIOUSLY, IT'S GOING TO BE KICKING A LOT OF TRAFFIC DOWN VIA DEL RAY IN FRONT OF THE GOLF COURSE, DOWN THAT VIA DEL RAY SIDE. I THINK THAT'S GOING TO HAVE SOME IMPACT. THE ONLY THING I WOULD LIKE TO DO IS JUST PUBLICLY FROM THE PARKS AND RECREATION SIDE THANK MARY POOL FOR HER YEARS IN SERVICE, DEDICATED EMPLOYEE, JUST A WONDERFUL FACE FOR THAT GOLF COURSE. SEVEN YEARS OF REALLY GOOD SERVICE. THANK MARY. >> LAST SATURDAY, WE HAD ABOUT 10 VOLUNTEERS AT THE EGAN'S CREEK NATIVE PLANT GARDEN. WE LEAVE SOME OF THE SEEDS THROUGH THE LATER FOR BIRDS TO EAT ON FOR SHELTER, AND WE CLEAN THAT UP AND TRIMMED THE PALMS IN A VERY CAREFUL MANNER AND HAD ENOUGH YARD WASTE, I GUESS, THAT WE COULDN'T FIT IT INTO A PICKUP TRUCK. THANK YOU GUYS. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU PICKED IT UP YET, BUT WE THANK MAINTENANCE FOR COMING OUT TO PICK THAT UP. WE GOT OUT BECAUSE IF YOU GET OUT EARLY FOR SOME OF THOSE WINTER WEEDS AND START PULLING THOSE, THEY DON'T TAKE OVER. I'LL PROBABLY BE REACHING OUT AND ASKING YOU GUYS TO MOW WHEN THE LITTLE YELLOW OF BLACK NEETIC AND SOME OF THOSE START FLOWERING BECAUSE THAT HELPS US KEEP THEM OUT OF THE NATIVE PLANT GARDEN. WE REALLY APPRECIATE THE SUPPORT FOR THE NATIVE PLANTS. PEOPLE EVERY TIME WE'RE OUT THERE, SOMEBODY COMPLIMENTS US OR ASKS ABOUT NATIVE PLANTS. IT'S BEEN A REALLY GREAT EDUCATIONAL TOOL. >> I WOULD JUST LIKE TO THANK PARKS AND RECREATION AND THE CITY OF FERNANDINA BEACH. IT'S BEEN VERY COLD, AND WE HAVE BEEN OPENING THE MLK CENTER ON COLD NIGHTS FOR THE SHELTER. WHEN IT GETS BELOW 40 DEGREES, AND WHEN YOU SEE THAT OUT, PLEASE LOOK FOR THE LINK TO VOLUNTEER FOR THE COALITION OF THE HOMELESS. THERE'S A LOT OF OPPORTUNITIES LIKE THREE HOUR SHIFTS. YOU CAN COME OR IF YOU CAN PROVIDE A MEAL OR IF YOU CAN TAKE A LOAD OF SHEETS HOME TO WATCH THEM SO THEY CAN TURN THEM OVER FOR THE NEXT DAY. THERE'S A LOT OF GOOD WORK BEING THERE AND THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE THAT ARE BEING HELPED IS GROWING. I APPRECIATE THAT OUR CITY IS STEPPING INTO A GAP THAT'S SORELY NEEDED, AND I APPRECIATE THE SUPPORT OF THIS ORGANIZATION IN DOING THAT. THANK YOU. >> I'M REALLY HAPPY THAT THE COMMITTEE TOOK A STANCE ON KEEPING THE SOCCER FIELDS HERE ON THE ISLAND. I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE DO THAT FOR THE COMMUNITY. I KNOW PEOPLE ARE COMING UP TO ME ASKING, WHAT ARE WE DOING ABOUT THE SOCCER FIELDS? I FEEL LIKE WE MADE A LITTLE BIT OF PROGRESS TONIGHT SAYING, WE DO WHATEVER WE CAN TO KEEP THEM HERE. THERE'S A LOT TO DO. BUT AT LEAST WE CAN TELL PEOPLE NOW, YES, WE ARE WORKING TO KEEP THE KIDS ON THE ISLAND. THAT MAKES ME HAPPY. >> I WANT TO THANK THE GOLF COURSE STAFF AND PARKS AND STAFF. I DON'T THINK THAT GOLF COURSE IN MY EXPERIENCE HAS EVER LOOKED THIS GOOD. I REALLY APPRECIATE THE WORK ALL YOU HAVE DONE AND THE SUPPORT OF THE COMMISSION PROVIDING YOU WITH THE TOOLS TO GET THAT DONE. THAT'S GREATLY APPRECIATED. I'LL JUST GIVE ONE MORE SHOUT OUT TO PEOPLE INVOLVED IN THE GOLF COURSE, THIS BROCHURE. IT LISTED MAINLY DONORS, BUT THEY GAVE MONEY, TIME AND SPIRIT TO HELP SUPPORT THE GOLF COURSE. I WANT TO GIVE THEM A THANKS FOR THAT AS WELL. THANK YOU. >> I'VE MADE MY COMMENTS FOR THE BEGINNING OF THE YEAR, BUT I WANT TO WISH EVERYBODY A HAPPY NEW YEAR. WE'VE GOT A LOT ON OUR DINNER PLATE FOR 2026. WE ARE A VERY CONSCIOUS GROUP OF PEOPLE WITH DIFFERENT WALKS OF LIFE, AND EACH ONE OF US COMES TOGETHER WITH THE IDEA OF GIVING OUR BEST. FOR THE HOUR AND 30 MINUTES OR HOW LONG WE'RE HERE, [01:30:05] EVERYBODY'S DEDICATED TO GIVING THE BEST COMMENTS, THE BEST KNOWLEDGE THAT THEY HAVE GOING FORWARD, AND THE BEST QUESTIONS, SO WE CAN MAKE A GOOD DECISION. I THANK THE STAFF THAT WE HAVE BECAUSE THEY ARE REALLY VERY CONSCIOUS OF WHAT'S GOING ON IN THIS CITY, AND THEY'RE ONLY WORKING TOWARDS THE BETTERMENT OF THIS CITY. THANK YOU. * This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.