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>>> GOOD EVENING, FOLKS AND WELCOME TO OUR NOVEMBER 4TH REGULARLY SCHEDULED COMMITTEE MEETING. MS. BEST, PLEASE CALL THE ROLL.
>>> I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS ONE NATION UNDER GOD INDIVISIBLE WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. PLEASE REMAIN STANDING FOR THE INVOCATION LED BY LEVI KATZ.
>> GOD, WE STAND BEFORE YOU IN PRAYER, LOOK FAVORABLY UPON THE MAYOR AND HONORABLE MEMBERS OF THE CITY COMMISSION AND BESTOW UPON THEM THE JOY OF LIFE, GOOD HEALTH AND PROSPERITY.
BLESS THE INDIVIDUALS WHO HAVE BEEN CHOSEN TO MAKE LAWS AND DECISIONS WITH THEIR PURSUIT OF JUSTICE AND EQUALITY.
GIVE THEM GUIDANCE SO THEY WILL BE CONSCIOUS OF YOUR PRESENCE.
GRANT THEM THE WISDOM TO TURN ADVERSITY INTO OPPORTUNITY.
MAY OUR CITY SERVE AS A BEACON OF LIGHT FOR ALL FAITHS AND WALKS OF LIFE. MAY FERNANDINA BEACH HELP ACHIEVE THE GOALS IN OUR PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE SO AMERICA IS TRULY ONE NATION UNDER GOD
[4.1 PRESENTATION - NASSAU HUMANE SOCIETY - Nassau Humane Society Executive Director Chantel Scherer will present the "City Commission Dog of the Month. "]
LET US SAY AMEN.>> THANK YOU, RABBI. YOU MAY BE SEATED AND WE WILL START OFF WITH OUR PRESENTATION FROM THE NASSAU HUMANE SOCIETY. I KNOW YOU'RE USED TO SEEING OUR DOG OF THE MONTH BUT NOW WE HAVE OUR CAT OF THE MONTH.
>> HI, EVERYBODY. THIS IS PRINCESS DIANA.
THE STAFF NAMED THE STRAY CATS THAT COME IN.
I HAVE NO PART IN THAT. SO SHE'S ABOUT A YEAR OLD. AND THE REASON I BROUGHT A CAT IS TWOFOLD.
LAST MONTH I GOT ASKED WHY DO I NEVER BRING A CAT.
SO I BROUGHT A CAT. ALSO, WE HAVE ABOUT 100 CATS AT THE MOMENT. AND 40 OF THEM ARE KITTENS AND THEY'RE JUST ABOUT READY TO BE SPAYED AND NEUTERED AND READY FOR ADOPTION TO WE WANTED TO PUBLICIZE THAT. AND ALSO, WE'VE HAD A VERY GENEROUS DONOR WHO HAS PAID FOR ALL OF THEIR ADOPTIONS WHILE HER MONEY LASTS SO IF YOU'RE INTERESTED IN A CAT OR KITTEN, COME OUT AND SEE US. THEY'RE FREE AND SHE'S BEAUTIFUL. SHE'S REALLY CHILL.
WE'VE GOT A LOT OF GREAT CATS SO COME AND SEE US.
>> HOW DO THEY GO ABOUT TAKING PRINCESS DIANA
HOME? >> YOU CAN STOP ME ON THE WAY OUT. I ALWAYS SAID THAT. BUT YOU CAN COME OUT TO THE SHELTER. WE ARE ACROSS THE STREET FROM THE MUNICIPAL AIRPORT. WE OPEN AT 11:00 A.M. AND CLOSE AT 5:00 SO YOU CAN COME AND MEET ALL OF OUR CATS. I'VE GOT CINDY HERE.
SHE'S ONE OF OUR CHIEF VOLUNTEERS.
SHE'S BEEN WITH US FOR A VERY LONG TIME.
AND SHE'S HERE AS A LITTLE EMOTIONAL SUPPORT FOR PRINCESS DIANA BECAUSE SHE NEEDED IT.
>> THANK YOU, MS. CHANTEL. AND MADAME ATTORNEY HAS A FEW POINTS OF ORDER BEFORE WE MOVE ALONG.
>> YES, IF I MAY, COMMISSION. WE'VE BEEN SERVED WITH -- THAT I'D LIKE TO ADD A RESOLUTION AUTHORIING TO THE AGENDA. I'M ALSO GOING TO ASK WE HAVE ANOTHER ISSUE THAT WAS RAISED WHERE I NEEDED TO FILE SOMETHING BY THURSDAY AND THAT WOULD BE FOR ME TO PROSECUTE A -- IN THE COMMISSION THAT WAS USE ND THE COMMISSION OF A FELONY.
SO I WOULD LIKE THE COMMISSION TO VOTE.
IT WOULD REQUIRE A FOUR FIFTHS VOTE IF THERE IS A MOTION TO ADD THEM AND IF THEY WERE ADDED WE WOULD ADD THEM TO 7. 6 AND 7.
7 AND WE COULD DISCUSS THEM AT THAT POINT.
BEFORE THERE IS A MOTION, I WOULD LIKE TO TAKE A SECOND TO MENTION THE ONE RESOLUTION THAT YOU WOULD BE VOTING ON IS THE PAID PARKING WHICH WAS FILED, WELL, IT'S BEEN FILED.
IT HASN'T BEEN SERVED YET. THAT ITEM WE CAN STILL DISCUSS PAID PARKING TONIGHT. THE MANAGEMENT AGREEMENT AND THE ORDINANCE ARE ON THIS AGENDA BUT THEY WOULD NOT BE IMPLEMENTED WITH ANY ACTION THAT YOU TOOK THIS EVENING SO IT'S NOT GOING TO BE INAPPROPRIATE TO SPEAK TO THOSE. I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO GO AHEAD AND KEEP THESE FOUR ITEMS ON THE AGENDA.
7. 2, 7.3, 8. 1 AND 8.2. THAT SPEAK TO PAID PARKING BECAUSE THIS IS THE FIRST TIME THAT THE FIVE OF YOU HAVE BEEN ABLE TO DISCUSS THE CONTRACT AND THE ORDINANCE PUBLICLY.
I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT WE HAVE PEOPLE HERE THAT MAY WANT TO OFFER COMMENTS AND SUGGESTIONS.
OPPOSING COUNSEL WILL BE HERE. I JUST MET HIM AND I DID ADVISE HIM THAT WE WOULD BE PROCEEDING AND THAT NONE OF THE ACTION WE TOOK TONIGHT WOULD ENACT ANYTHING. I ASKED FOR HIS CONSENT
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THAT THIS WOULD NOT BE USED AGAINST US AND WE'RE NOT TRYING TO IGNORE OUR CITIZENS BUT WE ARE SIMPLY USING THIS OPPORTUNITY TO EXERCISE OUR LEGISLATIVE PROCESS AND DISCUSS THESE ITEMS. NOW, HE WOULDN'T GIVE ME THAT CONSENT, BUT WE ARE TONIGHT JUST DISCUSSING THIS BECAUSE WE NEED TO TALK ABOUT IT. WE DRAFTED THESE DOCUMENTS AND I THINK IT'S A GOOD TIME TO JUST PROCEED AS THE AGENDA IS DRAFTED. SO WITH THAT, IF YOU WOULD CONSIDER ADDING THE TWO RESOLUTIONS TO THE ITEM, TO THE AGENDA IN 7. 6 AND 7. 7, I WOULD ASK FOR A MOTION AND IT WOULD REQUIRE A FOUR FIFTHS VOTE.>> I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. ANY COMMISSIONER DISCUSSION?
>> I HAVE A POINT OF ORDER IF WE CAN SPLIT THEM.
>> VICE MAYOR. DID YOU WANT TO COMMENT?
>> APPROVE 7.6. >> WE WILL MAKE 7. 6 THE AUTHORIZATION TO DEFEND IN THE MATTER OF PAID PARKING VERSUS CITY OF FERNANDINA BEACH.
SO THAT WOULD BECOME ITEM 7. 6 ON THE AGENDA. IF IT WAS APPROVED BY FOUR FIFTHS VOTE TO BE ADDED.
DO I HAVE A SECOND? >> SECOND.
>> ANY ADDITIONAL COMMISSIONER DISCUSSION? SEEING NONE, PLEASE START THE VOTE.
THAT VOTE PASSED 4-1 AND DOES NOT MAKE ANYTHING MOVE FORWARD. THAT JUST ALLOWS US TO DISCUSS THIS ITEM ON THE AGENDA THIS EVENING. DO I HAVE A MOTION FOR OUR SECOND RESOLUTION.
>> ANY COMMISSIONER DISCUSSION? SEEING NONE, MS. BEST, PLEASE START THE VOTE. THAT MOTION PASSES 5-
[5. PUBLIC COMMENT REGARDING ITEMS NOT ON THE AGENDA OR THE CONSENT AGENDA]
0 WHICH WILL TAKE US INTO OUR PUBLIC COMMENT FOR ITEMS NOT ON THE AGENDA AND WE'LL START WITH OUR CARRY FORWARD FROM THE WORKSHOP.MR. JOE BROWN. WOULD YOU LIKE TO COME UP?
>> GOOD EVENING, JOE BROWN, NATURE'S WALK DRIVE. I AM THE PRESIDENT OF THE FERNANDINA PIRATE CLUB. NEVER IN A MILLION YEARS, THREE YEARS AGO, WHEN WE POSED THE CITY ABOUT REPLACING PEG LEG THAT IT WOULD TURN INTO THIS. BUT PRESENTED TONIGHT WITH THE HISTORY OF THE PIRATE WAS EXCELLENT. WEE ALL FOR PRESERVING THE PIRATE HISTORY AND PEG LEG. HOWEVER, IT'S OBVIOUS IF YOU'VE BEEN DOWN THE SEE HIM LATELY, HIS TIME IS DRAWING NEAR.
WE'VE HAD OTHER -- AT HIM. IF HE CAN BE PRESERVED, FINE, LET'S DO IT. BUT IT WOULD BE AT LEAST A YEAR BEFORE HE WENT BACK UP. WE HAVE ANOTHER PIRATE ALREADY MADE. WE'RE WILLING TO DONATE TO THE CITY. WE'RE WILLING TO MAINTAIN HIM.
PUT HIM UP WHERE PEG LEG CAME DOWN FROM.
AT THE TIME IF AND WHEN AND IF PEG LEG IS RESTORABLE AND GETS RESTORED, PUT HIM BACK UP AT THE WATERFRONT ACROSS THE STREET FROM WHERE HE CAME ORIGINALLY OR VICE VERSA. PUT HIM BACK UP WHERE HE CAME NOW AND PUT THE NEW PIRATE WE NOW ACROSS THE STREET. BACK YEARS AGO WHEN WE STARTED THIS, WE TALKED, THAT WAS A CONCERN OF CHARLIE GEORGE. HE ASKED IF WE WOULD BE WILLING IF HE DID REPLACE THE PEG LEG WITH OURS WHERE HE STANDS, IF WE WOULD BE WILLING TO PUT HIM BACK ACROSS THE STREET. WE'RE WILLING TO DO THAT.
I THINK FERNANDINA'S BIG ENOUGH FOR BOTH THE PIRATES.
AND THERE'S NOBODY, NO GROUP MORE CONCERNED ABOUT PRESERVING THE PIRATE HISTORY THAN WHAT OUR CLUB IS. AND WE WERE MAYBE A LITTLE IVE ON OUR PROCESS WHEN WE STARTED THIS.
WE HAVE ONE, WE'RE WILLING TO DONATE IT TO THE CITY. WE'D LIKE TO SEE HIM PUT UP. IT'S WHAT I GOT.
>> THANK YOU. NEXT, I HAVE PAUL E. ALBERTA JR.
>> NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD.
>> MY NAME IS PAUL EUGENE ALBERTA JR.
I WAS BORN IN FERNANDINAFERNANDI NA BEACH, FLORIDA AT HUMPHREY MOYER HIGH
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SCHOOL. I ATTENDED HIGH SCHOOL AT FERNANDINA BEACH HIGH SCHOOL. I WAS ELECTED IN THE HALL OF FAME AT FERNANDINA BEACH HIGH SCHOOL.I STARTED MY FOOTBALL CAREER AT M STREET RECREATION CENTER UNDER CHARLES ALBERT.
AND MY LITTLE LEAGUE WAS AT M STREET, ALSO. AND IT'S SO DETRIMENTAL IF WE FORGET ABOUT FROM WHERE WE COME FROM.
YOU KNOW, TO DO SOMETHING LIKE THAT, APPARENTLY, YOU DON'T HAVE HAVE KNOWLEDGE ON WHAT HAD HAPPENED. WHEN I WAS THERE OUR LAST YEAR, ME, REGGIE ALBERT AND THEM, WE WON THE GATOR BOWL. WE WERE 10- 0 IN FOOTBALL. THE FIRST TIME M STREET EVER DID THAT. SO IT'S A LOT OF REMEMBRANCE IN ALL THAT. SO I WANT Y'ALL TO TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION TAKE A DEEP BREATH BEFORE YOU DECIDE BECAUSE IT'S A LOT OF HISTORY THERE AND MY AUNTIE PATRICIA THOMPSON, SHE'S MONUMENT OVER THE TOURNAMENT REC. MR. ALBERT OVER THE FIELD. THAT WOULD CHANGE EVERYTHING.
GOD BLESS Y'ALL AND HAVE A BLESSED DAY.
>> NEXT, MR. REVEREND BERNARD THOMPSON.
>> 1311 BEACH STREET. JUST TO TAKE UP WHERE WE WERE IN THE LAST MEETING.
THE STATEMENT WAS MADE THAT THE PAVILION WAS AGING AND IT MAY BE AGING BUT STRUCTURALLY, IT'S JUST ADD GOOD AS IT WASWAS DAY IT WAS BUILT. AROUND THE EVES, THE FASCIA AND EVES DRIP WERE INSTALLED IMPROPERLY.
IF IT'S FIXED PROPERLY AND PUT SOME HARDIBOARD ON THE GABLES OF THAT BUILDING, IT WILL BE JUST AS SOUND AS IT WAS THE DAY IT WAS BUILT AND FURTHERMORE, WE DON'T WANT THAT MOVED.
WE WANT IT LEFT RIGHT WHERE IT IS.
ONCE AGAIN, WE -- HERE IN FERNANDINA BEACH, OVER IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD, RIGHT NOW IT'S ALMOST A SIEGE MENTALITY. LET'S LOOK AT SOME OF THE THINGS THAT HAVE BEEN PROPOSED HERE LATELY. THIS IS JUST A PARTIAL LIST.
ON SOUTH BANK STREET. THEY WANT TO PUT A BIKE PATH THERE. THAT WOULD BE WONDERFUL. WENT UP AND DOWN THE STREET, NO ONE WANTED IT. TWICE, THEY TRIED TO MAKE A TRUCK ROUTE ON IT SOUTH TENTH STREET.
18 WHEELERS COMING THROUGH THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
TRIED IT NOT ONCE BUT TWICE. WE FOUGHT THAT BACK.
THEY WANTED TO PUT A FENCE AROUND THE BALL FIELD AT PEG HIGH SCHOOL AND MAKE IT LOOK LIKE A PRISON COMPOUND. WE HAD TO FIGHT THAT BACK. PROPOSE APARTMENTS BUILT ON TOP OF MR. GILBERT AND HERE WE ARE AGAIN BEING ENCROACHED UPON AND WE'VE GOT TO FIGHT THIS OFF US AS WELL. I -- YOU KNOW, WE -- WHAT YOU HAVE TO UNDERSTAND ABOUT PEOPLE THAT LIVE DOWN IN THIS AREA, WE JUST WANT TO BE LEFT ALONE. WE JUST WANT TO BE LEFT ALONE.
BUT IT'S PROJECT AFTER -- AND I UNDERSTAND HOW GENTRYIFICATION WORKS BUT WE'RE STILL HERE. AND PROJECT AFTER PROJECT, NO ONE TALKS TO THE PEOPLE. THAT ARE GOING TO BE AFFECTED.
YOU KNOW? IT'S JUST LIKE, OKAY, THIS IS WHAT WE THINK IS GOOD FOR Y'ALL AND HERE IT IS. THIS IS NOT GOOD FOR US. THREE FIELDS. THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU. NEXT, WE HAVE MS. MARY ANN PHILLIPS.
>> NUMBER 11 THAT WE'RE AT. WHERE ARE WE AT?
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WHICH ONE NUMBER IS THAT? I'M AT NUMBER 11 WITH THE WOOD CARVING. RIGHT THERE.274 SOUTH SIXTH STREET, FERNANDINA BEACH, FLORIDA. NATIVE.
IN 2023, THE WOOD CARVING DUDE JET PAXTON KAFRED A NEW PIRATE AND DID A GREAT JOB.
ON AUGUST 8TH, 2025, THE HDC WAS GOING TO VOTE TO HAVE THIS NEW PIRATE REPLACE PEG LEG PETE.
THIS STIRRED QUITE THE CONTROVERSY AND MADE LOCAL NEWS. NUMBER 12, PLEASE.
RESTORATION OF PEG LEG PETE ESTIMATES WERE GATHERED.
WITH AN ESTIMATE OF 16,800 AS HIGH AS 28,000 AND MORE BIDS ARE FORTHCOMING AS OF THE CREATION OF THIS PRESENTATION. NUMBER 13.
PEG LEG PETE WAS MOVED BY THE CITY OCTOBER THE 7TH, 2025, IN THE EARLY MORNING HOURS FROM HIS POST TO THE AMELIA ISLAND MUSEUM OF HISTORY ON THIRD STREET FOR RESTORATION. NUMBER 14.
NUMBER 14. ONCE PEG LEG PETE IS RESTORED AND RETURNED TO HIS RIGHTFUL POST, THE NEW PIRATE CAN BE PLACED -- THIS IS THE IDEA.
ONCE PEG LEG PETE IS RESTORED AND RETURNED TO HIS RIGHTFUL POST, THE NEW PIRATE CAN BE PLACED BESIDE HIM AT THE TRAIN DEPOT FOR ALL TO SEE. THE CHILDREN CAN NAME HIM JUST AS THEY DID 50 YEARS AGO AND CREATE A STORY OF HOW HE GOT TO OUR ISLAND.
A CONTEST CAN BE HELD JUST LIKE WAS HELD 48 YEARS AGO FOR PEG LEG PETE. I'M SURE LOCAL MERCHANTS WOULD COME TOGETHER TO PROVIDE A PIZZA PARTY OR WHATEVER IS NECESSARY TO WHOEVER WINS THIS CONTEST.
A NEW LEGACY WILL BE CREATED FOR GENERATIONS TO COME AND IT'S A WIN- WIN FOR EVERYONE. EVERYBODY.
PEG LEG AND THE NEW PIRATE BELONG TOGETHER.
RETURN PEG LEG PETE TO HIS POST AND HAVE THIS NEW PIRATE JOIN HIM.
AND I WANT TO SAY IN CONCLUSION, Y'ALL, I GRADUATED IN 1978. PERSON THAT SPOKE BEFORE ME GRADUATED WITH ME.
WHEN I WENT TO THE ARCHIVES AT THE LIBRARY, I WENT BACK THROUGH '78 AND '79 HISTORY AND A LOT OF THE STUFF I READ IN THAT NEWSPAPER, I REMEMBER. BECAUSE WHEN YOU'RE HERE AND THEN READ THAT STUFF, YOU REMEMBER IT.
ALL THAT STUFF STARTED COMING BACK FOR ME. I'M FOR PRESERVING OUR HISTORY JUST LIKE MISS FEELKOF SAID IN THE HDC MEETING. SHE SAID SOMETHING ABOUT THE WOOD IN THE EGGMONTE HOTEL. WE'VE GOT TO PRESERVE HISTORY. I DON'T WANT PEG LEG PETE DESTROYED. I THINK OUT OF RESPECT FOR MR. LANNING, IRVING, AND MR. BROWN, PEG LEG NEEDS TO BE RESTORED. THIS CITY SPENDS A LOT OF MONEY ON TOILET PAPER AND OTHER THINGS IN THIS CITY, I KNOW THAT'S KIND OF FUNNY, BUT IT'S TRUE. THE BUDGET, IT'S OVERBLOWN. THERE'S THINGS THAT NEED TO BE CUT. BUT THIS IS PART OF OUR HISTORY AND IT'S A PIECE OF WOOD THAT CAME FROM FERNANDINA.
IT NEEDS TO BE PRESERVED AND I'M ASKING Y'ALL TO DO WHATEVER YOU CAN TO PRESERVE HIM AND PUT HIM BACK WHERE HE BELONGS AND PUT THE OTHER LITTLE PIRATE BESIDE HIM. THANK YOU.
>> PLEASE NO CLAPPING, BOOING OR COMMENTING.
NEXT UP, MR. TOBY LENTZ. HOLD THAT IN CASE HE COMES BACK.
>> 1116 GUM STREET TALKING ABOUT THE UPGRADES TO ELM STREET LITTLE LEAGUE. MY THOUGHT ON THIS, I MIGHT BE RUNNING LATE BECAUSE I HAVEN'T BEEN IN ON IT, BUT IT WOULD BE MORE EFFECTIVE FOR THE PEOPLE THAT'S REALLY STAY IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD IF THERE WAS A TOWN HALL MEETING AT THE ELM STREET REC.
I SEE THE MEASUREMENTS AND EVERYTHING BUT LET ME SEE TALKING TO THIS MAN HERE, I GUESS HE'S THE DESIGNER, WALK AND SHOW ME WHAT ARE YOU DOING, WHERE ARE YOU MOVING EVERYTHING SO WE SEE BEFORE WE JUST DECIDE NOT TO DO WITH IT AND WHAT TO DO WITH IT.
BUT SOMETHING NEEDS TO BE DONE. I LIVE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD NO ONE SPOKE TO ME. GREW WITH UP IT.
AIN'T GOT A CALL, A TEXT, NOTHING.
I'M SAYING LOOK LIKE WE PROGRESS, WE CAN'T STOP IT.
KIDS ARE COMING. WE NEED TO HAVE A PLACE FOR OUR KIDS TO PLAY. WE GOT THE GIRLS OUT THERE PLAYING AND WE GOT A GOOD THING GOING. WITH NO LEAGUE, THE CHILDREN DO HAVE A CHANCE TO MOVE FURTHER.
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SERIES. WE DON'T HAVE BOYS BASEBALL OUT THERE, BUT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE IN THE PLANS IF IT IS. THERE'S GRASS OUT THERE IF CASE WE GET ENOUGH BOYS. LAST TIME I READ THE BOOK, YOU CAN PLAY SOFTBALL ON A GRASS FIELD, BUT BASEBALL ON A CLAY FIELD. I THINK WE NEED TO DO SOMETHING TO ELM STREET.SOME UPGRADES NEED TO BE DONE. THERE HASN'T BEEN MONEY SPENT.
THE FIELD WHEN WE GET RAIN GETS SOAKED AND IT'S NOT RAINING. JUST NEEDS TO BE SOMETHING DONE.
IT'S BETTER IF THE PEOPLE WHO ARE CONCERNED, SHOW ME WHERE YOU'RE MOVING AND WHAT YOU'RE DOING TO MAKE THINGS BETTER.
I KNOW YOU NEED PARKING. IT'S TWO BLOCKS TO WALK RIGHT DOWN TO THE HIGH SCHOOL. I'M QUITE SURE WE DON'T HAVE -- NOBODY REALLY COMPLAINS ABOUT YOU PARKING UNDER THE FRONT BECAUSE THIS IS CITY PROPERTY.
WE HAVEN'T GIVEN IT AWAY? YOU CAN PARK THERE.
NOT AS I KNOW THEY HAVEN'T COMPLAINED AND THE PEOPLE THAT STAY AROUND FIRST STREET, I SEE NONE OF THESE PEOPLE HERE.
THEY STAY ON THE CORNER. GO GOWN TO ELM STREET AND PEOPLE HERE IN THEIR HOUSES FACING THE REC. SO LET'S DO WHAT'S RIGHT AND LET'S TALK ABOUT IT MORE BUT WE CAN'T KEEP TALKING.
EVERY DAY WE DELAY, THE COST IS GOING UP.
LIKE I SAY, IT WOULD BE BETTER IF A TOWN HALL MEETING AT ELM STREET REC AND SHOW ME WHAT YOU'RE DOING AND LET PEOPLE KNOW WHAT YOU'RE DOING.
SEEING IS BELIEVING. SOMETHING NEEDS TO BE DONE AT THE ELM STREET REC GIRLS.
LET'S NOT FORGET ABOUT OUR YOUNG LADIES. WE CARE ABOUT THEM, WE LOVE THEM. AND IT'S BEING SUPPORTED. THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU. NEXT, MR. BOROUGH.
>> I HAVE TO SAY IT EVERY TIME I COME UP.
I HOPE YOU GUYS ARE DOING WELL. THANK YOU FOR LAST MONTH WEARING THE PINK. THIS MONTH IS NO SHAVE NOVEMBER SO NO SHAVING. THIS WEEKEND WE HAD THE SKATE COMPETITION. IT'S OUR THIRD ANNUAL AT MAY BEACH. WE HAD A LOT OF KIDS OUT THERE.
WE HAD 4-YEAR- OLD COMPETING AGAINST A 14-YEAR- OLD IN THE BEGINNER'S DIVISION. WE DON'T GO BY AGE.
WE DON'T GO BY SEX. IT'S ALL ABOUT YOUR SKILL LEVEL SO WE DO BEGINNER, INTERMEDIATE, ADVANCED, AND BEST OF THE BEST.
WE ADD ALSO SATURDAY IN WAS THE 14TH ANNUAL EXPOSURE SKATE, THE WORLD'S LARGEST, BIGGEST, AND LONGEST RUNNING WOMEN'S SKATE BOARDING EVENT AND IT WAS TAKING PLACE IN CALIFORNIA. WE HAD A TOTAL OF FIVE GIRLS REPRESENTING FERNANDINA BEACH COMPETE OUT THERE. OUT OF THOSE FIVE GIRLS, FOUR OF THEM ARE FROM ONE FAMILY. THE WALDO FAMILY. WE HAD TALLULAH. CORAL MAY, PRIMROSE, MARIGOLD AND CADENCE HOUSER. TOOK NINTH PLACE.
MARIGOLD TOOK 20TH IN ADVANCED BOWL.
PRIMROSE TOOK 19TH PLACE. IN ADVANCED BOWL.
CORAL MAY, COCO, SHE TOOK FIRST PLACED IN ADVANCE AND FIRST PLACE IN INTERMEDIATE STREET. THIS IS THE SAME COMPETITION THAT OUR LOCAL OLYMPIAN TOOK FIRST PLACE WHEN SHE WAS JUST 10 YEARS OLD. SO WE HAVE THE POSSIBILITY HERE IN OUR CITY IN THE 2028 OLYMPICS IN LOS ANGELES, CALIFORNIA, TO HAVE A POTENTIAL TWO GIRLS FROM OUR AREA REPRESENTING UNITED STATES OF AMERICA IN THE OLYMPICS IN SKATE BOARDING.
SO AS THE GENTLEMAN SPOKE ABOUT OUR GIRLS, I'M WITH YOU WHEN IT COMES TO OUR GIRLS.
WE HAVE A TALENTED BUNCH OF GIRLS HERE IN OUR CITY. SO LET'S TRY TO KEEP IN MIND WHAT WE HAVE GOING ON. WE HAVE A REALLY SMALL SKATE PARK. BUT THESE GIRLS ARE WORKING
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HARD. THEY'RE TRAVELING AROUND THE STATE OF FLORIDA SO THEY CAN PRACTICE.THEY GO ALL THE WAY TO CALIFORNIA AND COMPETE.
WE ALSO HAVE A YOUNG MAN NAMED JUDE RIVAS, 7 YEARS OLD, WHO HAS TAKEN FIRST PLACE IN SOUTH CAROLINA AND IN MELBOURNE IN SKATE BOARDING. SO THE AFFECT OF HAVING OLYMPIAN WORKS. IT INSPIRES AND NO SHAVING.
>> I'M JORDAN. AS YOU CAN SEE, I PLAY AT ELM STREET. I WANTED TO SAY THAT I KNOW, LIKE, ADDING THREE FIELDS WOULD IMPACT EVERYONE ELSE AND IT WOULD YOU KNOW, HAVE A BIG IMPACT, SORRY.
BUT IT'S ALSO A REALLY BIG IMPACT TO US BECAUSE EVEN WITH THE IGOR FIELDS, WE PRACTICE AT THOSE AS WELL WHEN OUR ONE ELM STREET FIELD IS BEING USED AND MY TEAM SPECIFICALLY, LIKE, MAYBE TWO WEEKS AGO, WE WERE PRACTICING AT EBOR AND WE HAD A FIELD RESERVED BUT WE HAD TO MOVE OFF OF THAT BECAUSE THERE WERE OTHER PEOPLE WHO WANTED TO USE IT SO WE WERE MOVED OUT OF OUR PRACTICE SPACE. WE COULDN'T GO TO ELM STREET AND THERE WAS REALLY NOWHERE ELSE WE COULD GO TO PRACTICE.
WE DID ARRANGE WITH THE PEOPLE TO HAVE A FIELD, BUT EVEN THOUGH EBOR IS STILL THERE AND I KNOW THERE'S STUFF GOING ON WITH THAT THAT YOU SAID IT MIGHT NOT BE CHANGED AND THOSE FIELDS MIGHT STAY THERE, WE STILL DON'T HAVE ENOUGH FIELDS FOR ALL OF OUR TEAMS TO PRACTICE AND PLAY AND COMPLETE ALL OF OUR GAMES BECAUSE I THINK WE HAVE EIGHT TEAMS THIS YEAR RIGHT NOW.
AND WE ONLY HAVE AT MOST FOUR USABLE FIELDS AND PRACTICING DURING THE WEEK AND GAMES DURING THE WEEK, IT'S NOT REALLY, IT'S VERY HARD TO ARRANGE. AND ALSO WITH THE FIELDS NOT BEING USED YEAR ROUND, THE FIELDS ARE PRETTY MUCH USED ALMOST YEAR ROUND EXCEPT FOR LIKE END OF NOVEMBER, DECEMBER, JANUARY. BECAUSE WE START PRACTICING LIKE MID FEBRUARY AND THEN IT CONTINUES THROUGH THE SUMMER WITH ALL-STARS. AND ALSO CHALLENGERS WHICH MY BROTHER IS ON AND THAT'S OUR SPECIAL NEEDS LEAGUE FOR KIDS WITH SPECIAL NEEDS SO THEY CAN PLAY. THEY USE THAT DURING THE SUMMER.
SO THE KIDS STILL HAVE THAT DURING THE SUMMER.
AND THE ALL OF THE TEAMS ALSO PRACTICE DURING THE SUMMER.
SO IT'S STILL BEING USED PRETTY MUCH YEAR ROUND AND I DON'T KNOW. I KNOW I HAVE MADE LOTS OF PROGRESS, LIKE PLAYING WITH ELM STREET AND I MOVED HERE LAST YEAR.
I HAVE MADE LOT OF PROGRESS WORKING WITH THESE OTHER GIRLS AND WORKING WITH ELM STREET AND I THINK IF WE HAD MORE FIELDS, IT WOULD BRING THE OPPORTUNITY FOR MORE GIRLS TO PLAY AND FOR MORE, I DON'T KNOW, JUST MORE CHANCES FOR PEOPLE TO IMPROVE AND DO WHAT THEY LOVE.
>> GOOD EVENING. RIGHT NOW, THIS CITY IS GOING THROUGH I WOULD SAY A STRESSFUL AND INTENSE PERIOD.
A LOT OF VERY TOUGH DECISIONS. I WANT TO GO BACK AND BRING UP MAYBE A LITTLE GOOD NEWS. AND THIS ONE HAPPENS TO INVOLVE THE STAFF THAT KEEPS THE CITY RUNNING. WE'VE GOT ROUGHLY 200 PEOPLE HERE AND A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO, THERE WAS AN EVENT THAT WAS HELD BY THE SUNRISE ROTARY CLUB. IT WAS CALLED THE LOBSTER FEST.
WE WERE ABLE TO RAISE FUND TO SUPPORT THREE OF THE CHARITIES.
WE DO THIS ON AN ANNUAL BASIS. WHAT I WANT TO PASS ON IS A GREAT BIG THANK YOU TO THE STAFF OF THE PARKS AND REC CENTER. THINGS WERE SET UP, IT WAS JUST RUN VERY, VERY WELL. AND TO ME, IT'S AN INDICATION OF HOW WELL OR MANAGEMENT WITHIN THE COMMUNITY PICKS OUR STAFF AND STAFF UNDERSTANDS THETHE RESPONSIBILITIES. THEY JUST DID A JOB TO A PLUS.
I THINK THE CITY DESERVES PARTICULARLY THE CITIZENS THAT RUN THIS CITY AND THE FACT
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THAT THEY'RE HEARING ALL OF THIS BUT THEY'RE STILL RUNNING THE FACTORY, SO THANK YOU.>> NEXT IS MS. JULIE FERREIRA.
>> I WANT TO SAYSAY TO THE ORGANIZERS OF THE RIGHT WELL FESTIVAL. IT WAS A WONDERFUL EVENT.
WELL ATTENDED, WELL ORGANIZED AND IT BROUGHT A LOT OF AWARENESS TO THE FACT THAT WE ARE RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE OF RIGHT WELL TERRITORY AND THIS IS AN ANIMAL THAT'S GOING EXTINCT. THERE'S ONLY 483 LEFT AND ONLY 70 OF THEM ARE BREEDING FEMALES. SO I'M GOING TO TRANSITION FROM KUDOS TO MANAGEMENT AND TOILET PAPER. SO THE BATHROOMS THIS WEEKEND AT MAIN BEACH WERE ATROCIOUS.
THEY DIDN'T GET OPEN UNTIL AFTER THE FESTIVAL STARTED ON SATURDAY. THEY HAD, BY 1:30, NO TOILET PAPER. WOMEN, HUNDREDS OF WOMEN, HAD TO DRIP DRY AND IF YOU DON'T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT THAT, IT'S REALLY UNPLEASANT. BY 5:30, THERE WAS STILL NO TOILET PAPER.
ON SUNDAY, THERE WAS A TOILET THAT WAS CLOGGED AND WOULDN'T FLUSH AND THERE WAS NO SOAP.
AND SOMEBODY WAS KIND ENOUGH FROM STARTING POINT TO BRING A LITTLE TINY, I DON'T KNOW IF IT WAS SOAP OR SANITIZER, BUT I USED IT TO WASH MY HANDS WITH, AND IT WAS SITTING ON THE SINK.
SO THIS IS, YOU KNOW, THIS IS REALLY QUESTIONABLE ABOUT MANAGEMENT. AND THE, I TALKED TO THE ORGANIZERS OF THE FESTIVAL AND THEY SAID THAT THEY HAD BEEN PROMISED BY THE CITY BECAUSE EVIDENTLY THE BATHROOMS THERE ARE ALWAYS A PROBLEM DURING THE FESTIVAL. THAT THE ORGANIZER SAID THEY WERE PROMISED BY THE CITY THAT WE HAD NEW PEOPLE THAT WERE CLEANING AND MAINTAINING PUBLIC BATHROOMS. AND THAT THIS WOULD BE THE BEST YEAR YET. SO I DON'T KNOW WHO THAT COMPANY IS BUT I THINK IT NEEDS TO BE LOOKED INTO. I THINK THAT WE CAN DO BETTER.
WE KNEW THAT THIS WAS GOING TO BE A BIG EVENT. THIS WAS GOING TO BE THOUSANDS AND THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE THERE AND TO NOT HAVE TOILET PAPER, IT'S INEXCUSABLE. SO I HOPE WE CAN DO BETTER.
WE SHOUD DO BETTER. I WANT TO MAKE YOU AWARE OF THE FACT BECAUSE SOMETHING NEEDS TO BE DONE.
>> THANK YOU. NEXT IS MR. JACK EMBERS.
10 03 BROOM STREET, FERNANDINA BEACH, FLORIDA.
WHY DOES THE CITY NEED MONEY FOR INFRASTRUCTURE AND ONGOING MAINTENANCE BEYOND WHAT'S ALREADY PROVIDED IN THE BUDGET? PERHAPS THE CITY JUMPED THE GUN BY PROCEEDING WITH A RIVER FRONT PARK WHERE THEY DISCOVERED THEY COULDN'T AFFORD IT. PERHAPS THE CITY IS PROCEEDING WITH ANNEXATIONS OF PROPERTIES OUTSIDE THE CITY BEFORE DETERMINING IMPACT COSTS ON INFRASTRUCTURE, EMERGENCY SERVICES, ET CETERA.
PERHAPS THE CITY NEEDS TO REEVALUATE THE SEVEN-YEAR REPLACEMENT PROGRAM THAT THE CITY MAINTENANCE DEPARTMENT USES IN REPLACING EQUIPMENT. JUST AUTOMATICALLY BUYING NEW EQUIPMENT. RATHER THAN EVALUATING THINGS ON AN AS NEEDED BASIS.
WHY AREN'T FEES AND FINES BEING COLLECTED FROM CODE ENFORCEMENT ISSUES AND TREE CUTTING VIOLATIONS.
WHY ARE WE PAYING TOP WAGES FOR CERTAIN PEOPLE IN MANAGEMENT WHERE IN THE SAME SIZE CITY, THEY'RE NOT GETTING NEAR THOSE WAGES. WHY AM I ASKING THESE QUESTIONS INSTEAD OF CITY PEOPLE WHO ARE CONTROLLING THE BUDGET? THESE AND MANY MORE ISSUES NEED TO BE LOOKED INTO BEFORE OTHER UNPOPULAR REVENUE
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GENERATING PROGRAMS ARE INITIATED.THE CITY NEEDS TO REEVALUATE ITS FINANCIAL RESPONSIBILITY TO THE BUDGET. THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU. NEXT IS MR. MORRISON.
MLK. CHANGE HAPPENS. THAT'S UNAVOIDABLE.
WHAT WE CAN DO IS CONTROL THE QUALITY OF THAT CHANGE. NOW WHAT I'M HEARING FROM A LOT OF REALLY NICE PEOPLE IS THEY DON'T FEEL LIKE THEY'VE BEEN HEARD. I RIDE BY BICYCLE TWO TO THREE TIMES A WEEK PAST MLK. THERE'S LAUGHTER, THE CLINK OF HORSESHOES, THERE'S A LOT OF GOOD SMELLING FOOD AND IT'S AT THE HEART OF THAT COMMUNITY. HEART AND SOUL OF IT, I WOULD SAY. SQUEEZING THEM DOWN MIGHT NEED A LITTLE CONSIDERATION. THAT PLACE IS USED A LOT AND YES, AT NIGHT, THERE ARE GAMES GOING ON, BUT DURING THE WEEK, THERE'S ALWAYS SOMEONE IN THAT PARK DOING SOMETHING.
CELEBRATING, LAUGHING, SHARING. IT'S REALLY AN IMPORTANT PART OF OUR COMMUNITY. IT'S PART OF OUR CULTURE AND HISTORY. SO PLEASE, PLEASE, WORK WITH EVERYBODY THAT LIVES IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD TO PRESERVE THAT PART OF THEIR CULTURE.
>> WHEN I FIRST STARTED, WE HAD 50 SOMETHING KIDS OUT THERE.
WE'RE IN OUR OFFSEASON, FALL, AND WE'RE PUSHING 87.
I HAVE ONE FIELD WITH LIGHTS FOR GAMES.
IT'S HARD BECAUSE IT'S NOT JUST IT'S ABOUT THE PRACTICES, TOO. I UNDERSTAND THREE FIELDS IS GOING THE MOVE INTO OTHER PEOPLES' AND TAKE OVER OTHER SECTIONS, BUT IF WE COULD WORK TOGETHER AND GET SOMETHING TOGETHER. NO, WE CAN'T USE EBOR.
AS A MATTER OF FACT, I HAVE TWO GAMES SCHEDULED OUT THERE THIS MONTH BECAUSE OF THE TIME CHANGE.
WE GET EBOR MONDAY, WEDNESDAY, FRIDAY FOR PRACTICE. ONE FIELD. I DON'T HAVE ANY OTHER FIELDS WITH LIGHTS THAT I CAN USE. THE FIELDS DOWN AT PIRATE PARK, THEY HAVE NO LIGHTS. EVEN IF WE WERE ABLE TO USE THAT FIELD, WE MAKE OUR MONEY OFF OF CONCESSION. HOW ARE WE SUPPOSED TO RUN CONCESSION AT JOE VALARDI? WE MAKE MONEY WHERE WE'RE AT OFF OF OUR CONCESSION.
THERE'S A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT COME TO OUR CONCESSION NOT EVEN PART OF THE BALLPARK. WE'RE NOT TRYING TO TAKE OVER THE PROPERTY OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT. WE WANT SOMETHING FOR OUR GIRLS. WE WANT SOMETHING THAT THEY HAVE A PLACE TO GO TO. AND JUST LIKE HOW MR. BOB SAID EARLIER. THERE'S NO REASON WHY WE CAN'T PUT A GRASS FIELD OUT THERE. MAYBE WE CAN GO AHEAD AND START SOMETHING SMALL WITH THE BASEBALL AND SEE WHERE WE CAN GO FROM THAT. NO, I KNOW THAT'S NOT WHAT A LOT OF PEOPLE WANT TO HEAR. BECAUSE WE HAVE A -- I UNDERSTAND THAT. BUT I MEAN, WE HAVE TO HAVE SOMETHING FOR THESE KIDS. WE DON'T WANT THEM RUNNING THE STREETS. RIGHT NOW, I'VE HAD TO TURN AROUND A COUPLE OF KIDS THIS YEAR BECAUSE WELL, I HAVE NO PLACE ELSE TO PUT THEM BECAUSE I CAN'T MAKE ANY MORE TEAMS. ELM STREET LITTLE LEAGUE IS GROWING. WE ARE, OUR BOUNDARY BY LITTLE LEAGUE IS THE ISLAND WHICH MEANS IF YOU'RE CHILD GOES TO SCHOOL ON THIS ISLAND, THEY CAN PLAY FOR ELM STREET LITTLE LEAGUE.
SO THESE CHILDREN THAT DO LIVE OFF THE FIELD IN NASSAUVILLE, BARNWELL ROAD, THEY'RE ABLE TO PLAY BECAUSE THEY GO TO SCHOOL HERE. THIS IS WHERE THEIR FRIENDS ARE.
THEY MAKE FRIENDSHIP. THEY BUILD EACH OTHER UP.
THEY WILL BE LEADERS. THEY WILL BE COACHES.
WHERE WERE YOU GUYS AT PLAYING? YOU CAN GO BACK TO THOSE FIELDS? BUT WHERE ARE THESE GIRLS SUPPOSED TO GO? EBOR. THAT'S WHAT I GREW UP PLAYING. IT'S GOING AWAY. I DON'T HAVE ANY PLACE ELSE FOR THESE GIRLS TO GO.
>> THANK YOU. NEXT, MR. CAMERON MOSS.
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>> THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. 3435 SEA MARSH ROAD.
PROUD LOCAL CITIZEN. I WAS PROMPTED TO COME HERE TONIGHT BECAUSE OF THE NOISE AROUND A RECALL OF THE PUBLIC COMMISSIONER'S.
I'M HERE TO TALK ABOUT DECENCY AND CIVILITY. WHERE HAVE THEY PHONE.
DECENCY IS BEHAVIOR THAT CONFORMS TO ACCEPTED STANDARDS, DESCRIBED AS COURTESY OR POLITENESS AND YOU WANT TO KNOW WHO KILLED DECENCY AND CIVILITY? WE ALL DID.
WE SAT AT THE SIDELINES CHUCKING ROTTEN TOMATOES AT OUR OPPOSITION. WE BIT BY BIT POST BY POST TEXT MY TEXT MEME BY MEME ASSAULTED OUR OPPONENTS.
WE ASSAILED THEIR INTEGRITY. ASSAULT THEIR CHARACTER. ASSUMING THEIR MOTIVES ARE SELFISH AND SINISTER. WE BASEBALL THEM EVIL AND MISINFORMED IF THEY DON'T AGREE WITH US. WE USE LANGUAGE AND TONE ONLINE THAT WE WOULD NEVER USE IN PERSON. WE CAN AND MUST DO BETTER. HAVING GROWN UP IN THE SPACE AGE AND DIGITAL REVOLUTION, I CAN SAY THAT MUCH OF OUR COMMUNICATION TODAY IS BROADCASTED VERSUS COMMUNICATING. EXCHANGE DEBATING IDEAS.
WE DON'T DO THAT. WE BROADCAST WITH VITRIOL.
THAT'S WHERE WE'VE GONE ASTRAY.
WE'VE BECOME A NATION AND COMMUNITY OF SORE LOSERS AND SORE WINNERS. I KNOW WHAT A SORE LOSER IS BUT WHAT'S A SORE WINNER? IS A SORE WINNER MAY BRAG OR GLOAT ABOUT HIS VICTORY IN ATTEMPT TO BELITTLE THE LOSER. SORE WINNERS ARE GENERALLY CONSIDERED BULLIES.
CASE EXAMPLE IS PRESDENT TRUMP'S RETRIBUTION CAMPAIGN AND HIS NON- STOP DENIGRATING LANGUAGE ABOUT ANYBODY THAT OPPOSES HIM.
WE'RE SUBHUMAN, WE'RE NOT WORTH GIVING OXYGEN TO. SO THE LESSON IS IF YOU DON'T LIKE THINGS ARE GOING, JUST CHANGE THE RULES OR ATTACK THE SYSTEM. LIKE THE MID DECADE REDISTRICTING EFFORTS DRIVEN BY THE GOP.
LIKE RYNAD PRETENDING THEIR PROCESS IS NOT CHEMICAL MANUFACTURED. BULLSHIT.
SO THEY CAN CIRCUMVENT RULES TO MAKE MORE MONEY.
LIKE THE CONVERSATION GOING ON BY THE PAID PARKING ISSUE.
A SORE LOSER IF THERE EVER WAS ONE.
FINALLY ON PAID PARKING, THIS ISSUE UNLIKE BRETT'S OR RYAN'S IS 100% REVERSIBLE WITH LITTLE CONSEQUENCE. IF WE'RE NOT HAPPY WITH THE OUTCOME, THE SCIENCE AND INFRASTRUCTURE TO BE REMOVED AND THE CITY RESTORED TO ITS CURRENT STATE, REPUTATION REINSTATES SO MAYBE THAT ISN'T THE HILL FOR US TO DIE ON AS NEIGHBORS. MAYBE JUST ISN'T, RIGHT? WE JUST DON'T KNOW.
RIGHT? IT'S ALL EMOTION. WHICH IS OKAY.
BUT THE MEAT OF THIS IS, TEN MORE SECONDS, MR. MAYOR. A LOT OF PEOPLE HAVE SAID THAT YOU NEED, IT'S NOT A CAPACITY. IT'S A FINANCIAL THING.
A LOT OF PEOPLE HAVE OFFERED THAT THE CITY CAN SAVE MONEY. I'M HERE TO OFFER MY SERVICES TO HELP ANALYZE THAT BECAUSE IT'S WHAT I'VE DONE FOR 50 YEARS.
>> NEXT UP, MS. ROSE IVEY. >> HI, I'M ROSE.
I HAVE SEEN MANY GIRLS MY AGE AND YOUNGER GO SO FAR WITH THIS LEAGUE AND PERSONALLY MYSELF, I HAVE, I KNOW I'VE IMPROVED BECAUSE I'VE BEEN PLAYING FOR FOUR YEARS MAYBE NOW. AND I'VE MADE SO MANY NEW LIKE BEST FRIENDS AND FRIENDS THAT I LOVE AND ADORE AND JUST PLAYING THE SPORT INSPIRES ME SO MUCH. AND HAVING OTHER GIRLS THERE TO SHARE IT WITH.
AND I REALLY FEEL THAT WE NEED THESE EXTRA FIELDS BECAUSE OF ALL THE STRUGGLE WITH THE OTHER FIELDS AND THE LIGHTING AND EVERYTHING, BUT JUST THE GIRLS AND THEIR COMPASSION, THEIR PASSION FOR THIS SPORT REALLY INSPIRES ME AND A LOT OF OTHER PEOPLE THAT I KNOW. AND I'VE SEEN LIKE, A LOT OF GIRLS GO SO FAR. I'VE SEEN THEM FROM REALLY LITTLE UNTIL NOW AND THEY'VE IMPROVED SO MUCH BASED OFF OF HOW MUCH THESE COACHES AND PEOPLE HAVE IMPROVED
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THEM. AND I CAN SEE IN THEIR EYES EVERY TIME I GO TO PRACTICE OR GAMES. THEY JUST LOVE TO BE THERE AND THEY WANT TO BE THERE SO MUCH.AND IT REALLY GENUINELY INSPIRES ME TO PLAY BETTER AND DO MORE. THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU. AND I HAVE NEXT UP MR. TOM CAMERON.
>> 1518 NORTH PARK DRIVE. I'M ALSO THE CHAIRPERSON FOR PARKS AND REC. LAST MONTH WE HAD A REGULAR MEETING. IT WAS CONCERNING THE ELM STREET. PRESENTATION WAS MADE BY THE PROJECT MANAGER. WE ONLY LISTENED LISTENEDTO PEOPLE FROM ELM STREET.
NO REPRESENTATION FROM THE PEOPLE THAT LIVED IN ELM STREET COMMUNITY.
OUR VOTE WAS 7-0. ALL THE DISCUSSION THAT WAS HELD WAS BASED ON WHAT WE HEARD FROM THE PEOPLE THAT WERE THERE.
IT WAS BROUGHT TO YOUR ATTENTION TONIGHT THEY WOULD LIKE TO HAVE AN OPEN MEETING AND HAVE EVERYBODY THERE. SO THAT WE CAN HEAR FROM BOTH SIDES AS A WORKSHOP. I BELIEVE THIS IS AN IMPORTANT DECISION BY YOU THE COMMISSION BECAUSE WITH HAD VERY FEW OPPORTUNITIES TO BETTER OUR OPPORTUNITY FOR FIELDS. WE ARE LIMITED IN THE SPACE THAT WE HAVE IN THIS CITY. AND I THINK WE MADE A RIGHT DECISION AT THAT PARTICULAR TIME.
AGAIN, I SAID OUR DECISION WAS 7-0 AND THAT PROVES TO YOU WE HEARD EVERYTHING THAT WAS SAID AT THAT MEETING AND WHATEVER DECISION YOU GUYS MAKE, PLEASE LET'S MAKE SURE WE MAKE THE RIGHT DECISION FOR THE RIGHT REASONS.
>>> LASTLY I HAVE MR. PAUL LORI. >> PAUL, 11 SOUTH 7 STREET. I HAD NO DESIRE TO COME UP AND SPEAK TODAY. AFTER HEARING THE COMMENT ABOUT HOW WE ARE CATEGORIZING PEOPLE. I HAVE NO OPINION ABOUT THE RECALL. MY OPINION ABOUT PAID PARKING WE WILL HAVE PAID PARKING OR WE WON'T.
AFTER THAT IF IT'S THERE IT'S THERE AND IF IT'S 23409 IT'S NOT BUT THIS COMMUNITY IS GOING TO GO ON AND IT'S GOING TO LOVE AND HEAL AND MEND AND WE ARE ALL GOING TO BE -- I THNK WE ARE ALL STILL CIVIL TO EACH OTHER. WE AREN'T GOING TO HAVE SOMEONE COME OUT AND CATEGORIZE THE WHOLE PAID PARKING AS WE'RE MEAN SPIRITED. THERE'S BE THINGS ON BOTH SIDES THAT HAVE BEEN SAID BY OTHERS. I WILL TELL YOU FOR ME, PERSONALLY, BEING A PAID PARKING AGAINST IT ADVOCATE. WHEN THE DUST SETTLES I STILL WANT TO HAVE THE SAME RELATIONSHIPS. I RESPECT THAT MR. POINTER HAD HIS LAST WEEK. HE HAD HIS -- I DIDN'T WANT TO MISS CATEGORIZE IT. IT WAS A GREAT SESSION. THERE WERE A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT WERE HERE THAT WERE 100% FOR PAID PARKING. I THINK I WAS THE ONLY ONE THERE. I FELT WELCOME. IT WAS A CONVERSATION.
PEOPLE TALKED AT THE END. IT WAS CIVIL. STUDENT, COMMISSIONER TOO. WE HUGGED. WE TALKED. I MET YOU AT AGAIN DURING THE HUMANE SOCIETY THING. WE HUGGED. WE HAD A BRIEF DISCUSSION. WISH I KNEW YOU WERE IN THE DUNK TANK. I WOULD HAVE COME THERE. I DID -- I DUNKED HONEY SIX TIMES. I WISH I WOULD HAVE KNOWN YOU WERE THERE. THAT'S THE WAY I FEEL. AND I MEAN THAT.
THERE'S A LOT OF CIVILITY. MS. PRINCE CAME DOWN THE STAIRS. WE
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TALKED. MS. SARAH SAID GOOD EVENING, PAUL I WOULD SAY IT IN PUBLIC HERE. I THINK SHE IS A HECK OF A CITY MANAGER. I LOVE THAT SHE IS OUR CITY MANAGER. EVEN IF I FIND OUT SHE IS A DIE HARD ONE THAT STARTED PAID PARKING I'M STILL NOT GOING TO FEEL ANY DIFFERENT ABOUT HOW SHE IS LEADING A LOT OF THE STAFF. I WILL NOT ALLOW SOMEONE TO COME UP HERE AND CATEGORIZ ALL OURCITIZENS. THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU.
>> WITH NO OTHER REQUESTS TO SPEAK FOR ITEMS NOT ON THE
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AGENDA WE WILL MOVE ALONG TO THE CONSENT AGENDA AND I DO HAVE AT THE REQUEST OF THE CITY CLERK WE HAVE TO CHANGE ONE OF THE AGENDA ITEMS. NUMBER 6.2. DO I HAVE A MOTION TO DO SO?>> PULLED FROM CONSENT. >> YES.
>> ARE WE JUST PULLING? FROM THE CONSENT ITEM AND PUT IT UNDER RESOLUTION.
>> WE WILL REMOVE 6.2. >> I SECOND.
>> MOTION AND SECOND ANY COMMISSIONER DISCUSSION? SEEING
NONE. PLEASE START THE VOTE. >>
[6.2 LEASE AGREEMENTS - NASSAU COUNTY SUPERVISOR OF ELECTIONS - RESOLUTION 2025-197 APPROVING LEASE AGREEMENTS WITH THE NASSAU COUNTY SUPERVISOR OF ELECTIONS FOR FREE RENTAL OF THE ATLANTIC AVENUE RECREATION CENTER JOAN BEAN AUDITORIUM, DR. MARTIN LUTHER KING JR. RECREATION CENTER PATRICIAA. THOMPSON AUDITORIUM AND THE PECK CENTER AUDITORIUM TO CONDUCT 2026 PRIMARY ELECTION AND GENERAL ELECTION ACTIVITIES; AUTHORIZING ADMINISTRATIVE CORRECTION OF SCRIVENER'S ERRORS; AUTHORIZING EXECUTION; AND PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE. Synopsis: Approves lease agreements for use of the Atlantic Recreation Center auditorium, MLK auditorium, and Peck Center auditorium to conduct 2026 Primary Election and General Election activities.]
THAT MOTION PASSES 5-0 AND AS POINT OF ORDER I THINK WE WILL HEAR ON 6.2 AS AN AMENDED ITEM 7. OKAY.THANK YOU. IT >> DO I HAVE A MOTION?
>> MOVE TO APPROVE. >> MOTION.
>> SECOND. >> AND SECOND. ANY COMMISSIONER DISCUSSION? SEEING NONE. PLEASE CALL THE ROLL.
[7.1 LEGAL DIRECTION - RAYONIER PERFORMANCE FIBERS, LLC'S CLAIM PURSUANT TO THE BERT J. HARRIS, JR. PRIVATE PROPERTY RIGHTS ACT - RESOLUTION 2025-183 AUTHORIZING THE CITY ATTORNEY TO TAKE ACTION AS REQUIRED BY STATUTE IN THE MATTER OF RAYONIER PERFORMANCE FIBERS, LLC'S NOTICE UNDER THE BERT J. HARRIS JR. PRIVATE PROPERTY RIGHTS PROTECTION ACT; AUTHORIZING THE CITY COMMISSION'S RESPONSE TO THE CLAIM; AUTHORIZING ADMINISTRATIVE CORRECTIONS OF SCRIVENER'S ERRORS; AUTHORIZING EXECUTION; PROVIDING FORAN EFFECTIVE DATE. Synopsis: Provides direction to the City Attorney in the above-mentioned matter. This item was first considered at the October 7, 2025, regular meeting and continued. This item was considered again at the October 21, 2025, regular meeting and continued to November 4, 2025.]
THAT MOTION PASSES 5-0 WHICH TAKES US TO 7.1. OUR LEGALDIRECTION. >> YES. THANK YOU YOUR HONOR.
>> GOOD EVENING. I BELIEVE WE HAVE MR. ZUSKIN. HE WILL BECOMING UP ON ZOOM HERE IN A MINUTE. THIS ITEM IS THE LEGAL DIRECTION. THIS IS THE HARRIS CLAIM WE FIRST HEARD THIS ON OCTOBER 7TH. IT WAS ONLY PLACED ON THE AGENDA DUE TO OUR VARIOUS FILING THAT WAS RECEIVED BY THE CITY. UNDER THE BURT HARRIS ACT THE COMMISSION IS OBLIGATED TO CONSIDER 11 OPTIONS AND MAKE A SETTLEMENT OF SOME SORT. THE SETTLEMENT CAN INCLUDE JUST STAYING WITH THE DECISION MADE. IT'S JUST AN ODD INTEREST IT'S ODD LANGUAGE IN THE STATUTE. THAT HAS TO BE DONE WITH IN 90 DAYS. THEY CAN PROVIDE THE CITY WITH ANOTHER 90 DAY EXTENSION TO SEE IF THERE COULD BE ANY DISCUSSIONS OR STUFF THAT MIGHT FIND A RESOLUTION TO THIS MATTER WHICH IS THE INTENT AND THE OBLIGATION UNDER THE STATUTE. THAT EXTENSION TAKES US UNTIL NOVEMBER 10TH WHICH IS THIS MONDAY.
OCTOBER 7TH THE COMMISSION FORMED A LIST OFITEMS TO DISCUSSION WITH THEM AND THE COUNSEL.
IT INCLUDES HEALTH AND SAFETY CONCERNS. VARIOUS ITEMS THEY WANTED MY OFFICE AND LITIGATION COUNSEL TO DISCUSS. WE PROCEEDED TO DO THAT. THEN WE MET AGAIN ON OCTOBER 21ST TO UPDATE THE COMMISSION. AT THAT MEETING WE TOOK MORE PUBLIC COMMENT AND IT WAS REPORTED BY LITIGATION COUNSEL THAT WE WERE STILL IN NEGOTIATION. WE ASKED YOU TO DEFER IT TO NOVEMBER 4TH. THE COMMENTS AND INFORMATION THAT WE RECEIVED ON OCTOBER 7TH, OCTOBER 21ST ARE ON FILE WITH THE OFFICE THE CITY CLERK.
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WE WILL PRESENT THE SLIDE WITH THE 11 OPTIONS. ONCE OUR LITIGATION COUNSEL, SAM PROVIDES HIS THOUGHTS, THEN THE COMMISSION CAN MAKE A MOTION AND A SECOND. YOU CAN TAKE COMMENTS AFTER YOU HAVE A MOTION ON THE FLOOR. WE WILL BE MOVING FORWARD THIS EVENING AND, AT THIS TIME MR. MAYOR, I WOULD LIKE TO TURN IT OVER TO SAM TO PROVIDE ANY ADDITIONAL THOUGHTS ON THE MATTER AND TO SHARE HIS SCREEN SO YOU CAN SEE THE 11 OPTIONS AFTER HE IS DONE SPEAKING. IF THAT WORKS. IF NOT WE'LL FIND A>> OKAY. TAKE IT AWAY, SAM. >> GOOD EVENING EVERYBODY. THANK YOU. SHE GAVE A GOOD BACKGROUND AS TO HOW WE GOT HERE AS MENTIONED YOU DID PREVIOUSLY GIVE US DIRECTION TO GATHER MORE INFORMATION AND DO EXPLORING TO A LIST OF ISSUES THAT YOU ALL WANTED SOME ANSWERS TO AND MORE INFORMATION ON BEFORE MAKING A DECISION IN TERMS OF HOW TO RESPOND TO THE HARRIS CLAIM. THE TIME TO RESPOND IS NOW UPON THE CITY WITH IN THE NEXT WEEK. THE DEADLINE TO RESPOND IS NOVEMBER 10TH. GIVEN WHERE WE ARE IN THE PROCESS THERE'S NO REAL BASIS OR REASON FOR ANY FURTHER EXTENSION AT THIS POINT. SO, IT'S TIME FOR THE CITY TO DECIDE HOW TO RESPOND AND THAT CAN BE BY CHOOSING ONE OR ANY OTHER COMBINATION OF THE 11 OPTIONS PROVIDED IN THE ACT WHICH I WILL NOW TRY TO SHARE AND HOPEFULLY YOU ALL WILL BE ABLE TO SEE IT. LET ME KNOW IF YOU HAVE ANY ISSUE.
>> WHILE WE'RE WAITING FOR THAT TO COME UP MR. MAYOR I WANT TO SAY THAT WE ARE ASKING YOU TO MAKE A DECISION TONIGHT BECAUSE WE -- YOU KNOW IN THE TIME WE HAVE BEEN GIVEN IT'S COMPLEX MATTER BUT THEY DID PROVIDE COMMUNICATION IT'S NOT AS IF THERE WAS A -- ANY KIND OF SITUATION WHERE THEY WERE NOT RESPONDING BUT IT IS JUST TIME TONIGHT TO MAKE A DECISION ON ONE OF THE 11 AND MOVE FORWARD AND AFTER YOU MAKE YOUR MOTION THIS EVENING DEPENDING ON HOW YOU PROCEED IF YOU DO SELECT NUMBER 11 THEN THAT MEANS THAT THEY WILL BE FREE TO MOVE FORWARD WITH FILING A LAWSUIT, AMENDING THE LAWSUIT THEY HAVE NOW BUT WE EXPECT WILL HAPPEN AND THEY WOULD AMEND IT TO ADD A COMPLAINT THAT WOULD WE THE BURKE HARRIS CLAIM THEY HAVE PROVIDED US NOTICE OF. THAT WOULD BE THE NEXT STEPS AND DEPENDING ON WHAT YOU DECIDE IF IT'S NUMBER 11 WE WILL HAVE SOME -- SAM AND I WILL HAVE SOME DUTIES TO -- WE HAVE TO FILL OUT SOME INFORMATION AND PROVIDE IT TO THE PLAINTIFF. WELL ACTUALLY THE PARTY THAT GAVE US NOTICE BECAUSE THEY AREN'T A PLAINTIFF YET. JUST SO LIDIFY YOUR DECISION. ANY OF THE 11 DECISIONS WE WOULD HAVE TO PUT IT INTO WRITING PROVIDE IT TO OPPOSING COUNSEL. WITH THAT I SEE THE NUMBERS ARE ON THE SCREEN. SAM, DO YOU HAVE ANY OTHER INFORMATION YOU WOULD LIKE
TO SHARE? >> UNLESS ANYONE HAS ANY SPECIFIC QUESTIONS ABOUT ANY OF THE OPTIONS I DON'T THINK THAT REALLY NEEDED TO SAY A LOT MORE. I WILL SAY THAT WHATEVER OPOSITION IS CHOSEN OR OPTIONS ARE CHOSEN, ANNOY, WE WILL HAVE THE DIRECTION IN TERMS OF HOW TO PREPARE THE CITY'S FORMAL RESPONSE TO THE NOTICE AND ALSO TO -- BE REQUIRED UNDER THE STATUTE TO PROVIDE WITH THAT -- A STATEMENT OF ALLOWABLE USES AS WELL AND THOSE WOULD BE THE NEXT STEPS IN THIS PROCESS AND, YOU KNOW, FOLLOWING THAT THE LIKELY NEXT STEP THAT WOULD HAPPEN IS THE CITY ATTORNEY POINTED OUT IS THAT -- THEY WILL MOST LIKELY MOVE TO AMEND THEIR COMPLAINT TO ADD AIRPARK HARRIS CLAIM TO THE
COURT ACTION. >> THANK YOU, SAM. I DO HAVE SOME REQUESTS TO SPEAK FROM THE AUDIENCE. ARE THERE ANY REQUESTS
AT THE MOMENT? >> NO WOULD IT BE APPROPRIATE TO
PUT A MOTION ON THE FLOOR? >> CERTAINLY.
>> CERTAINLY CAN IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO PUT A MOTION ON THE FLOOR AND SEE IF IT'S SECONDED TO GIVE THE AUDIENCE WHICH DIRECTION YOU ARE GOING BEFORE WE TAKE PUBLIC COMMUNITY COMMENT YOU CAN. I SUGGEST WE TAKE THE PUBLIC COMMENT BEFORE YOU VOTE AND WE WILL MAKE SURE WE DON'T GET AHEAD OF OURSELVES ON THAT.
>> I MOVE TO APPROVE OPTION 11. >> I WOULD SECOND.
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>> I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND ANY COMMISSIONER DISCUSSION? SEEING NONE. OUR FIRST SPEAKER IS GOING TO BE JULIE.
>> AS SHE COMES UP, AS YOU SEE ON THE SCREEN OPTION 11 IS NO CHANGES TO THE ACTION OF THE GOVERNMENT. GOVERNMENTAL ENTITY WHICH MEANS THE CITY'S RESPONSE INITIALLY TO THE REQUEST TO BUILD THE BIO ETHANOL PLANT WOULD BE REMAIN UNCHANGED. WE WOULD STAND BY THE CITY'S INITIAL RESPONSE.
>> JULIE. 501 DATE STREET I STAND HERE REPRESENTING THE SIERRA CLUB. WE URGE YOU TO CHOOSE OPTION 11 WITH NO ADJUSTMENT TO THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE, NO ADJUSTMENT TO THE COMP PLAN AND NO ISSUANCE OF A VARIANCE SO WE URGE THE CITY TO CHOOSE OPTION 11, THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU. NEXT IS TYNA KRISSNER.
THANK YOU. >> NEXT IS MR. MONZA.
>> THANK YOU MR. MAYOR. GOOD EVENING EVERYBODY. 1014MA I WANTED TO REMIND THE CITY COMMISSION AND ALL THE COMMUNITY THAT NINE YEARS AGO I STOOD IN FRONT OF THIS CITY COMMISSION ADVOCATING ON BEHALF OF RAYONIER. I PRIDE MYSELF OF BEING A SCIENTIST. I HAVE OPPOSED THIS PROJECT ON HEALTH AND SAFETY CONCERNS. REGARDING BURKE HARRIS I FIND THAT THE FINANCIAL DEMAND IN THE CLAIM IS COMPLETELY UNREALISTIC. IT IS BASED ON A LAND OPERATION THAT LACKED AN ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT OF A PROPERTY WHERE HAZARDOUS MATERIALS HAVE BEEN HANDLED OVER 80 YEARS. ASSESSMENTS ARE A STANDARD PRACTICE IN INDUSTRIAL LAND APPRAISAL ITS TO IDENTITY ENVIRONMENTAL FACTORS THAT MIGHT AFFECT THE VALUE OF THAT PROPERTY. THEY SHOULD KNOW THAT AND IT WAS NOT INCLUDED IN THE BURKE HARRIS CLAIM. THIS ASSESSMENT ALSO ENSURES COMPLIANCE WITH REGULATIONS LIKE SURPLUS OR SUPER FUND. IT'S A FEDERAL LAW THAT SIEVES EPA THE AUTHORITY TO FORCE RESPONSIBLE PARTIES TO CLEAN UP CONTAMINATED SITES. I URGE YOU NOT TO SETTLE THE BURKE HARRIS CLAIM. IF AS A CONSEQUENCE THEY PROCEED WITH A LAWSUIT I UNDERSTAND THAT WOULD TRIGGER THE POSSIBILITY FOR ALL OF YOU TO REQUIRE AN INDEPENDENT PHASE # ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT OF THAT LAND. THE ASSESSMENT WOULD SHED LIGHT ON THE EXTENT OF THE WATER AND SOIL CONTAMINATION CAUSED BY RAYONIER AFTER 80 YEARS OF OPERATIONS. IT WOULD NOT BE SURPRISING THAT THEIR LAND HAS IN FACT NO COMMERCIAL VALUE AT ALL. AS POINT OF REFERENCE THEY WERE FORCED TO CLOSE A SULFATE PULP MILL IN PORT ANGELES WASHINGTON BECAUSE THE COMPANY DECIDED NOT TO IMPLEMENT THE EQUIPMENT TO COMPLY WITH NEW AIR EMISSION REGULATIONS IN THE STATE OF WASHINGTON. IN TERMS OF CAPACITY AND PRODUCT MAKES IT WAS A VERY SIMILAR THING. IT WAS ONLY OPENED 67 YEARS WHILE HERE ITS BEEN OPEN 85 YEARS SO YOU CAN IMPLY WHAT MIGHT HAVE HAPPENED. THEIR 2024 REPORT SHOWS THE ENVIRONMENTAL LIABILITY OF THAT SITE AMOUNTS TO NOT 30, NOT 40, NOT 45, NOT 50, $53.2 MILLION. IF YOU DO THE ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT OF THIS LAND I WONDER WHAT YOU WILL FIND. I THINK THE DEMAND IS ACTUALLY FLAWED BECAUSE THAT -- IS COMPLETELY
FLAWED. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >> THANK YOU. NEXT WE HAVE FRANK
B [INAUDIBLE]. >> MAYOR, VICE MAYOR, COMMISSIONERS. I LIVE AT 12 SOUTH 6TH STREET I HAVE BEEN RAIN ENVIRONMENTAL CONSULTANT FOR THE LAST 36 YEARS. I HAVE WORKED ON PROJECTS THAT RANGE FROM DIAMOND AKALINE, LOVE CANAL EXCLUSION ZONE IN UPPER STATE NEW YORK. AIR CRAFT IN RHODE ISLAND, TANKER EXPLOSION ON ROUTE 93 IN BOSTON AND A
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TERMINAL CONVERSION FROM OIL TO NATURAL GAS. I'M VERY FAMILIAR WITH RISK ASSESSMENTS, REMEDIATION AND IMPACTS THAT INDUSTRIAL FACILITIES HAD ON THE ENVIRONMENT. I HAD THE TIME TO GO THROUGH THE RISK ASSESS HELICOPTER THAT WAS POSTED ON THE WEBSITE AND WHILE IT WAS WELL DONE IN MANY RESPECTS I FOUND A FEW FLAWS WITH IN IT THAT DISTURBED ME. THE FIRST ONE BEING THERE WAS NO ADDRESSING THE IMPACT THE COMPANY IN THEIR SECONDARY CONTAIN MEANT AREA ITSELF THEY HAD A RELEASE. THE CAPACITIES THEY USED I WOULD CONSIDER NOT ENOUGH FOR THE CAPACITY OF THE MATERIALS THEY ARE GOING TO KEEP ON SITE. THE SECOND FLAW WAS NO -- OF THE ETHANOL SHOULD YOU HAVE A SECONDARY EXPLOSION. THAT MEANS YOU CREATE A VAPOR CROWD.BASICALLY A BOMB SHOULD YOU HAVE A SECONDARY EXPLOSION. I THINK THAT IT'S IMPORTANT THAT THE COMMISSION UNDERSTANDS THAT THEY HAVE A GUY LIKE ME ON THEIR SIDE AND IF I WAS ABLE TO PICK THIS UP -- GET SOMEONE THAT'S FIGHTING THEM JUST AS HARD. THE CITY REALLY SHOULD CONSIDER AND I'M RETIRED NEXT YEAR SO I'M NOT WORKING FOR A JOB HERE I'M JUST SAYING THAT YOU GUY IS S SHOULD HAVE SOMEONE ON YOUR SIDE -- I MAY HAVE DONE 40 SITE ASSESSMENTS LAST YEAR ALONE. TO GET THE COMPLETE EVALUATION.
COASTAL RESILENCY, THE WETLAND IMPACTS, AQUATIC. THESE ARE ALL THINGS THAT SHOULD BE TAKEN IN TO CONSIDERATION. SO, TO ME OPTION 11 IS THE ONLY ONE. JUST PREPARED FOR IT'LL BE A LONG
FIGHT. THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU. NEXT WE HAVE
ALEXIS REYNOLDS. >> GOOD EVENING. MY NAME IS ALXIS REYNOLDS. I'M AT 25 SOUTH 3RD STREET RIGHT OVER THERE.
GOOD EVENING FRIENDS AND NEIGHBORS. I'M VERY HAPPY THAT YOU HAVE DECIDED THAT YOU ARE IN FAVOR OF NUMBER 11 FOR SEVERAL REASONS. BECAUSE IF IT SETS A REALLY IMPORTANT LEGAL PRECEDENT IF YOU LET ONE PERSON OR ONE COMPANY LIKE RAYONIER PRODUCE ETHANOL OR ANY OTHER HAZMAT MATERIAL IT MEANS HAVE YOU TO LET EVERYBODY ELSE DO IT AS WELL THE OTHER PRECEDENT IT SETS IS IF WE SUE WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO GET OUR WAY. I THINK THE CITY DOESN'T WANT TO BE IN THAT POSITION OF SETTING THAT PRECEDENT. THE OTHER THING IS THEY ARE ASKING FOR COMPENSATION FOR THE VALUE OF THE PROPERTY. THAT PROPERTY WASN'T THERE IN 1936 WHEN THEY -- PARDON ME. WHEN THEY MOVED HERE. I SENT SOME MAPS AROUND. ALL THE MAPS PRE1936 SHOW NO PROPERTY AT GUM STREET. NOW THERE IS 248 ACRES. HAS IT BEEN FILLED IN? I DON'T KNOW. ON ALL THOSE MAPS IT SHOWS MARSH. SO, IS THERE PERMITS FOR THAT? I DON'T KNOW I LOOKED FOR THEM. I PROBABLY WAS BAD AT LOOKING FOR THEM. I DIDN'T FIND THEM. SO, COUPLE REASONS THERE.
THE OTHER THING IS THAT ALCOHOL IS VERY POISONOUS TO AQUATIC LIFE AND SHOULD THAT ESCAPE THEIR FACTORY OUR WHOLE RIVER COULD BE DAMAGED FROM AQUATIC LIFE SO, THANK YOU AGAIN.
>> THANK YOU. NEXT IS MR. JACK EMBER.
>> HELLO AGAIN. 2009 I DID -- I WAS INVITED TO AN ORDINANCE SAFETY MEETING AND THEY KEPT TALKING ABOUT THE END USER OF ORDINANCE. I SAID WHO YOU CALLING THE END USER AND THEY SAID IT'S THE MILITARY I SAID NO IT'S NOT. IT'S THE CIVILIANS WHO ENCOUNTER YOUR STUFF EVERY DAY. IT'S US THAT HAVE SO CLEAN IT UP. THEY SAID TO ME, IT NEVER OCCURRED TO US.
TWO YEARS LATER I WAS PRESENTING AT PRESENTING AND WHERE BEFORE THERE WAS NONE -- NONE OF THE PEOPLE IN CLEAN UP MODE -- IN THE CLEAN UP PROFESSION THERE WERE 13 OTHER PROFESSIONALS THERE GIVING THEIR LECTURE ON THE SUBJECT. WHATEVER YOU CAN DO TO KEEP ETHANOL PRODUCTION FROM BEING DONE ON AMELIA ISLAND YOU
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MUST DO AS A FELLOW HUMAN BEING. TO USE A QUOTE FROM THE PREVIOUS SPEAKER WHO SPOKE ON ITEMS NOT ON THE AGENDA THIS IS NOT THE HILL I CHOOSE TO DIE ON. I WOULD LIKE TO ADD ALSO THAT IT'S NOT ACCEPTABLE TO ALLOW ANYONE ELSE TO BE INJURED OR DIE. AS A SOCIETY WE ARE TO OFTEN BEING REACTIVE. AFTER INDUSTRIAL MISHAPS, MASS SHOOTINGS, WE ALMOST ALWAYS SAY IT SHOULDN'T HAVE HAPPENED. THEN IT HAPPENS AGAIN AND AGAIN AND AGAIN. DO NOT NEGOTIATE WITH THEM, DO NOT BACK DOWN. DO NOT ACCEPT AN ETHANOL PRODUCTION ON ANY TERMS. BE PROACTIVE IN ALL OF YOUR DECISIONS. YOU MUST SAVE FROM HAVING INJURIES AND POSSIBLE DEATH. WE ARE THE END USERS OF ACTIONS BY BAD ACTORS. THANKYOU. >> THANK YOU. NEXT IS MR.
FRANKLIN -- [INAUDIBLE]. >> GOOD EVENING. 1559 PLANTATION OAKS TERRACE. I AM THE PRESIDENT OF NO ETHANOL FOR MEDINA. I'M SURE YOU'RE GETTING TIRED OF SEEING MY FACE HERE. I'M HERE BECAUSE WE WANT TO JUST FOCUS NO ETHANOL'S POSITION AND THAT IS THAT OPTION 11 IS THE ONLY OPTION YOU CAN CHOOSE. I'M NOT GOING TO SPEND A LOT OF TIME. YOU HAVE ALREADY HEARD IT FROM YOUR OWN LAWYERS. THE FACT OF THE MATTER IS THIS IS NOT A PERMITTED USE UNDER THE COMP PLAN AND SHOULD NOT BE PERMITTED. SOMETHING THAT THAT NOT BEEN DISCUSSED ENOUGH IN MY VIEW IS THE IMPACT OF ANY DECISION OTHER THAN REFUSING TO NEGOTIATE AND THAT IS SECTION 4D1 OF THE BURKE HARRIS ACT WHICH IS THE SECTION THAT FOLLOWS THE SECTION YOU ARE CURRENTLY CONSIDERING. SECTION 4D1 SPECIFICALLY SAYS WHEN A GOVERNMENTAL GROUP ENTERS IN TO A SETTLEMENT AGREEMENT UNDER THE SECTION INTEREST UNDER THIS SECTION WHICH WOULD HAVE THE EFFECT OF MODIFICATION, VARIANCE OR SPECIALEXEMPTION TO THE APPLICATION OF A RULE, REGULATION OR ORDINANCE AS IT WOULD OTHERWISE APPLY TO THE SUBJECT REAL PROPERTY THE RELIEF GRANTED WILL PROTECT THE PUBLIC INTEREST SERVED BY THE REGULATION AT ISSUE. THE REGULATION AT ISSUE IS THE COMP PLAN. THE COMP PLAN SPECIFICALLY PROVIDES CHEMICAL MANUFACTURING IS PROHIBITED. SO, IN ORDER TO DO ANYTHING OTHER THAN NOT ALLOW THEM TO ALLOW -- BUILD THIS FACILITY YOU WOULD HAVE TO NOT PROTECT THE PUBLIC INTEREST. THIS IS WHAT YOU ARE CONSIDERING TONIGHT. THIS COMMISSION IS FACING A DECISION ON WHETHER OR NOT TO NEGOTIATE. THE SIMPLE WE ARE IS OPTION 11. OPTION 11 ALLOWS YOU TO STICK TO THE ORIGINAL POSITION THAT YOU ADOPTED WHICH YOU ADOPTED WITH THE ADVICE OF VERY GOOD COUNSEL SAYING THIS IS NOT A PERMITTED USE AND SHOULD NOT BE ALLOWED ON THIS SITE. I JUST WANT TO SAY THE IDEA BEHIND THIS PROVISION OF THE ACT IS SHALL PROTECT THE PUBLIC INTEREST SERVED BY THE REGULATION AT ISSUE. THE REGULATION AT ISSUE IS THE COMP PLAN. THE COMP PLAN WAS ADOPTED BY THE PEOPLE AND IT'S THEIR INTEREST THAT YOU ARE PROTECTING BY OPTING FOR OPTION 11. WITH THAT I WOULD AGAIN JUST SAY WE ASK YOU ADOPT OPTION 11 AND NOT
ALLOW NEGOTIATIONS. >> THANK YOU. AND NEXT UP IS SANDY CARRIE.
ALL RIGHT. IF SHE IS NOT MAKING HER WAY IN SHORTLY THAT IS ALL I HAVE TO COMMENT ON THIS AGENDA ITEM.
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SO WE HAVE OUR MOTION AND OUR SECOND. ANY ADDITIONALDISCUSSION? >> CALL THE QUESTION.
SUPERFLUSH THANKFUL >> I WAS UPSTAIRS. STANDING ROOM ONLY.
>> I'M SO HAPPY TO HEAR ABOUT THE MOTION AND SECOND. I HOPE IT PASSES. I AM GOING TO STATE WHAT I HAD PLANNED ON SPEAKING BECAUSE I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT FOR EVERYBODY TO HEAR. THE CLAIM STATE THAT THE BEACH CITY OFFICIALS MADE A MISTAKE BECAUSE THEIR PROPOSED PLANT IS NOT CHEMICAL MANUFACTURING. THOUGH WE KNOW THAT ETHANOL PRODUCTION INVOLVES CHEMICAL MANUFACTURING AND REFINING AND THESE ACTIVITIES ARE PROHIBITED BY THE COMP PLAN LET'S FOLLOW THE CONSEQUENCES OF THEIR FLAWED CLAIMS. STATE AIR PERMITS REGULATED BY FEDERAL LAW THAT REQUIRE APPLICATIONS TO PROVIDE TRUTHFUL INFORMATION OTHERWISE FALSE INFORMATION COULD RESULT IN SERIOUS CIVIL AND CRIMINAL PENALTIES. IN THE OCTOBER 204 WORKSHOP ORGANIZED BY OUR CITY THEY TOUTED THE EXPENSE -- EXTENSIVE EXPERIENCE THAT THEIR REPRESENTATIVES AND CONSULTANTS ON PROCESSING AIR PERMITS. THEIR AIR PERMIT APPLICATION CLEARLY STATES THAT BIO ETHANOL IS CHEMICAL MANUFACTURING. NOW THEY CLAIM AND INSIST THAT BIO ETHANOL MANUFACTURING IS NOT CHEMICAL MANUFACTURING. ONE CAN ONLY CONCLUDE THAT THEY MAY HAVE INTENTIONALLY PROVIDED WRONG INFORMATION TO THE STATE OF FLORIDA IN THE BIO ETHANOL AIR PERMIT APPLICATION. IF YOU BELIEVE THEIR NEW POSITION THERE ARE SERIOUS CONSEQUENCES THAT SUPPORT THE CITY NOT SETTLING THE CLAIM. CONSIDER THESE QUESTIONS. IS THERE AIR PERMIT VALID OR IS IT FRAUDULENT? ARE THEY ATTEMPTING TO MISLEAD THE CITY IN ITS BUILDING PERMIT APPLICATION. WHAT ARE THE LEGAL CONSEQUENCES OF PROVIDING WRONG INFORMATION TO THE CITY? SHOULD THE CITY TAKE LEGAL ACTION AGAINST THEM AT THE STATE AND FEDERAL LEVEL? WHAT ARE THE CONSEQUENCES OF THEIR CONFLICTING CLAIMS IN THE PENDING STATE AND FEDERAL LAWSUITS? I URGE YOU, COMMISSIONERS ACTION ALL OF YOU TO VOTE OPTION 11. COMMISSIONS COME AND GO BUT THE DECISION YOU MAKE HERE TONIGHT WILL BE REMEMBERED FOR GENERATIONS TO COME. WHAT KIND OF LEGACY DO YOU WANT TO LEAVE? I HOPE AND PRAY THAT YOU MAKE THE RIGHT DECISION, ONE THAT WILL ALIGN WAS OUR CREATOR BODY'S PLANS WHO HAS SAID FOR I KNOW THE PLANS I HAVE FOR YOU. THEY ARE PLANS FOR GOOD AND NOT FOR DISASTER. TO GIVE YOU A FUTURE AND HOPE. THAT'S WHAT WE'RE
HOPING FOR. THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU. SINCE SHE MADE IT IN THE NICK OF TIME WE HAVE OUR VOTE ON THE FLOOR.
COMMISSIONERS, FEEL FREE TO FINISH THROUGH.
THAT MOTION PASSES 5-0. >> MAYOR, IF I MAY. I WANT TO -- THE DECISION OF OPTION 11. THERE ARE A FEW STEPS WE HAVE TO TAKE UNDER THE ACT. IF YOU WOULD JUST ENTERTAIN A MOTION DIRECTING YOUR COUNSEL TO PROPERLY RESPOND TO THE ACTION YOU -- RESPOND TO OPPOSING COUNSEL REGARDING THE ACTION YOU JUST TOOK WE WILL TAKE THE NECESSARY STEPS BECAUSE WE WANT TO -- [INAUDIBLE] COME BACK AND ASK. IF YOU COULD JUST GIVE THAT DIRECTION AS WELL IF
YOU WOULD MAKE THAT MOTION. >> SO MOVED.
>> I HAVE THE MOTION AND DO I HAVE A SECOND?
>> CERTAINLY. >> ANY COMMISSIONER DISCUSSION? SEEING NONE. PLEASE START THE VOTE.
[7.2 AGREEMENT APPROVAL - ONE PARKING, INC. - RESOLUTION 2025-205 APPROVING AN AGREEMENT WITH ONE PARKING INC. TO PROVIDE PAID PARKING MANAGEMENT SERVICES; AUTHORIZING ADMINISTRATIVE CORRECTION OF SCRIVENER'S ERRORS; AUTHORIZING EXECUTION; AND PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE. Synopsis: Approves One Parking, Inc. contract terms and conditions to provide paid parking management services.]
THAT MOTION ALSO PASSES. 5-O WHICH TAKES US TO 7.2 AND GREEN ME APPROVAL WITH ONE PARKING INC. IS THAT --.>> I THINK I'LL START IT, MAYOR AND THEN MS. PRINCE CAN ADD
MORE. >> BRIEF PAUSE FOR MY -- I APOLOGIZE.
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>> OKAY. THANK YOU, MAYOR. THIS IS CONSIDERATION OF RESOLUTION 2025-205 TO APPROVE THE AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE CITY AND ONEPARKING AS THE ATTORNEY MENTIONED PREVIOUSLY THIS AGREEMENT WOULD NOT BE EFFECTIVE UNTIL AN ORDINANCE CAN ADOPTED THAT ACTUALLY IMPLEMENTS THE PROGRAM. SO, THE EFFECTIVE -- IS REFLECTED IN THE AGREEMENT IN THAT WAY. SO, WE DID WANT TO GO HEAD AND GIVE YOU AN OPPORTUNITY TO REVIEW THE AGREEMENT TONIGHT AND GIVE US ANY INPUT THAT YOU MIGHT HAVE. THE BU WILL, K IS IN EXHIBIT 1 AND I JUST WANTED TO POINT OUT A COUPLE OF ITEMS OF NOTE IN THE GUILLEN. ONE UNDER THE TERM OF THE AGREEMENT THIS IS A TWO YEAR AGREEMENT. IT DOES ALLOW FOR ADDITIONAL TWO YEAR RENEWALS AND A ONE YEAR RENEWAL AT THE VERY END. THE INITIAL TERM IS FOR TWO YEARS. THE TERMS OF PAYMENT I BELIEVE WE HAVE TALKED ABOUT BEFORE. THIS IS A FIXED FEE. IT'S NOT BASED ON COLLECTIONS. IT'S NOT A PER SENT AGE AGREEMENT THE PAYMENT MORE THE FIRST YEAR IS $323,568 AND WE DID CLOWE A 10% CONTIGENCY. I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING PARTICULAR TO CALL OUT ON THE NEXT COUPLE OF PAGES. THAT'S OUR STANDARD CONTRACT LANGUAGE. ARTICLE 5, TERMINATION. GIVES THE CITY QUITE A BIT OF FLEXIBILITY IN HOW THE AGREEMENT IS TERMINATED.
EITHER PARTY CAN TERMINATE FOR NO CAUSE WITH 120 DAYS WRITTEN NOTICE TO THE OTHER PARTY. IF THERE IS A FAILURE THERE IS A 30 DAY WRITTEN NOTICE THAT'S GIVEN. WE DID INCLUDE, HOWEVER, THAT THE CITY CAN EXIT THIS AGREEMENT BASED ON THE RESULTS OF A CERTIFIED CITIZEN'S INITIATIVE RELATED TO PATE PARKING. THERE WOULD BE SOME COST TO THE CITY AND THAT INCLUDES 90 DAYS OF THE MANAGER'S SALARY AND 30 DAYS FOR EACH ENFORCEMENT OFFICER'S SALARY. IN ADDITION THERE ARE SOME ADVERTISED CAPITOL COSTS SO THAT THE PORTION OF ANY CAPITOL EXPENSES WE WOULD BE REQUIRED TO REPAY. WE THINK THOSE ARE GOING TO BE NOMINAL AND REALLY ONLY RELATED TO SIGN AGE THAT WE PURCHASE. NOTHING IN PERSONNEL, REPRESENTATIVES, INSURANCE.
NOTHING SIGNIFICANT IN SUCCESSORS AND/OR REMEDIES. I THINK I WANT TO JUMP DOWN TO ONE OF THE EXHIBITS THOUGH. YEAH.
THAT'S THE END OF THE AGREEMENT. EXHIBIT A IS THE COST FOR LAUNCHES THE PROGRAM THE MAP HAS NOT CHANGED FROM THE DISCUSSION. THIS WOULD BE FROM FRONT TO 8TH AND WOULD INCLUDE PARKING LOTS A AND B. EXHIBIT B IS THE RFP ITSELF. EXHIBIT C IS THE LAST ITEM I WANT TO BRING TO YOUR ATTENTION WHICH IS THE FEES THAT WE WOULD PAY TO ONE PARKING. THESE ARE SEPARATE AND APART FROM THE FEES THAT WE WOULD CHARGE TO THE USERS OF THE SYSTEM THIS IS WHAT WE'RE OBLIGATED TO PAY ONE PARKING.
CITATION PROCESSING IS $8 EACH. THE YEARLY PERMIT FEE. THE DIGITAL PERMIT FEE IS $2 PER MONTH OR $24 A YEAR. THE CREDIT CARD SUR CHARGE IS ESTIMATED TO BE 4% PER TRANSACTION. THAT IS INCURRED BY THE CITY. THERE IS A SERVICE PROVIDER FEE OF 87-CENTS PER TRANSACTION AND THAT'S PAID BY THE END USER. THERE'S ANY SALES TAX GENERATED BY PAID PARKING THOSE COSTS ARE INCURRED BY THE CITY AS WELL. THAT'S THE BIG PICTURE OF THE FREEMENT.
I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT HAVE AND ATTORNEY PRINCE I THINK HAS SOME COMMENTS.
>> FIRST I WOULD JUST ADD TO WHAT MS. CAMPBELL HAS SAID ON PAGE 2. IF YOU COULD, ONE POINT I WANTED TO POINT OUT -- ARTICLE 3I. THERE WE GO. IF YOU WENT FROM THE WALKING ENFORCEMENT.
THIS IS MEANT TO BE A VERY SLOW ROLL OUT SOFT WALL OUT. I GUESS WE WOULD CALL IT. IF YOU WANT TO GO TO DRIVING ENFORCEMENT IT WOULD HAVE TO COME BACK AND -- THAT'S ONE ITEM I WANTED TO
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POINT OUT. ON THE NEXT PAGE WE HAVE WHAT I CALL LIQUIDATED DAMAGES AND THAT'S THE AMOUNTS SHE CALLED OUT. I WANTED TO GO TOWN IN THAT PARAGRAPH IT'S IN THE FIRST YEAR. WITH IN THE FIRST YEAR IF THERE'S A CANCELLATION DUE TO CITIZENS INITIATIVE BEING VOTED ON AND CERTIFIED AS BEING SUCCESSFUL AND YOU DECIDED TO CANCEL THEN YOU WOULD PAY THOSE DAMAGES IF THE CANCELLATION HAPPENED OUTSIDE OF THE FIRST YEAR THEN THOSE WOULD GO AWAY. THEY -- ONE PARKING JUST FELT LIKE AT THAT POINT THEY WOULD HAVE RECOUPED. THEY WOULD HAVE TO MOVE HERE AND THAT WAS THE ONLY REASON THEY ASKED FOR THE FEES TO BE PAID.THE NEXT ONE THAT I WAS GOING TO CALL OUT TO YOU BEFORE YOU STARTED DISCUSSING ON PAGE 6 THEY DID AGREE TO NASSAU SO WE DID DISAGREE WITH THEM WE WOULD GO TO NASSAU AND NOT WEST PALM BEACH AND THEN ATTORNEY'S FEE PROVISION AT THE BOTTOM OF PAGE 6. WE DECIDED THAT BOTH PARTIES WERE -- IF WE WERE GOING TO GO TO COURT THAT WE WOULD PAY OUR OWN ATTORNEY'S FEES SO THERE WOULD BE NO ENTICEMENT TO TRY TO SUE TO COLLECT ATTORNEY'S FEES BUT RATHER TO WORK THINGS OUT SO THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT THE PARKING DID AGREE TO AS WELL. THE ONLY CHANGE I WOULD ASK FOR AFTER LOOKING AT THIS CONTRACT ALL WEEKEND IN ARTICLE 1 IF YOU DO APPROVE THIS CONTRACT TONIGHT I WOULD LIKE THE SCOPE OF SERVICES TO ADD THAT THE MANAGEMENT AND ENFORCEMENT AND IMPLEMENTATION OF THE PAGE -- OF THE PAID PARKING MANAGEMENT WOULD BE -- ON OUR ORDINANCES. I WANTED TO ADD MANAGEMENT IMPLEMENTATION AND ENFORCEMENT WILL BE IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE ORDINANCES ACTED BY THIS -- THAT WOULD JUST BE IN ADDITION TO ARTICLE 1 ON PAGE 1 IF YOU CHOOSE TO APPROVE IT. I THINK MOST IMPORTANTLY FOR THE CITIZENS -- I KNOW WE WILL BE TALKING ABOUT THE AUTHORIZATION TO DEFEND LATER IN THE EVENING.
IT IS THIS CONCEPT THAT IF YOU DO -- IF THERE IS A MOTION TO APPROVE TONIGHT AND YOU HAVE A VOTE AND YOU SEE GREEN ON THE SCREEN THAT FIVE PEOPLE VOTED IN FAVOR THAT IT MEANS THAT WE DO NOT HAVE TO BRING IT BACK IF THE ENABLING ORDINANCE IS A DON'TED.
THIS WILL JUST SIT HERE. IT MEANS ONE PARKING WILL KNOW THAT YOU AGREE TO THE TERMS. YOU DON'T HAVE ANY CHANGES TO THE TERMS AND THEN IF YOU INITIALLY ADOPT THE ENABLING ORDINANCES IT WOULD BE EFFECTIVE AND WE WOULD PROVIDE WITH THE ROLL OUT. THOSE ARE CLARIFICATIONS THERE AND AS MS. CAMPBELL SAID WE CAN
ENTERTAIN ANY QUESTIONS. >> THANK YOU. DO I HAVE ANY QUESTION FROM THE COMMISSION? SEEING NONE I HAVE TWO REQUESTS TO SPEAK FROM THE AUDIENCE. FIRST UP IS TYNA KRISSNER.
>> TYNA KRISSNER. GOOD EVENING. I WILL TALK ABOUT TONIGHT SOME OF THE THINGS I LOVE ABOUT THE AREA. SO, HONESTLY ONE OF THE BEST THINGS I HAVE ALWAYS FOUND OUT HAS BEEN OUR INABILITY TO GET THINGS DONE. WHEN SOMETHING NEW COMES UP WE ARGUE. WE OVER THINK. WE STALL AND SOMEHOW THAT'S WHAT HAS PROTECTED THIS TOWN FROM TURNING INTO EVERYWHERE ELSE. NOW WITH THIS DECISION TONIGHT YOU ARE ABOUT TO HAND OVER CONTROL OF OUR DOWNTOWN ACCESS TO A THIRD PARTY COMPANY. THAT'S NOT CHARMING.
THAT'S JUST RECKLESS. ANOTHER THING THAT I HAVE NOTICED IS THAT THIS CITY HAS A VERY LONG, PROUD HISTORY OF SIGNING REALLY BAD CONTRACTS. WE HAVE BEEN OVER BILLED, UNDER DESCRIBED AND LOCKED IN BEFORE FOR DECADES AND EVERY TIME WE ARE TOLD THIS ONE IS DIFFERENT. WE HAVE ANALYZED IT AND IT'S NOTHING AGAINST ANY ONE IN THE CITY IT'S THAT WE'RE UP AGAINST CORPORATE LAWYERS WHO JUST WORK ON THIS ONE TYPE OF CONTRACT ALL THE TIME AND WE ASK SOMEONE LIKE MS. PRINCE WHO IS BEING ASKED TO DO THE WHOLE WORLD OF LEGAL ISSUES TO LOOK THROUGH THIS. HERE WE GO AGAIN.
SAME STORY. NEW POWER POINT FOR DECADES AGAIN. SO, I REVIEWED THERE WAS A RECORDS REQUEST FOR ALL THE FINANCIAL MODELS FOR THE PARKING REVENUE AND I HAVE TO SAY I REVIEWED THEM VERY, VERY
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THOROUGHLY. WE HAVE SUCH GOOD PEOPLE IN THE CITY AND THESE FINANCIAL MODELS ARE SO COMPLETELY BASIC. I DON'T KNOW WHY FOR SOMETHING SO IMPORTANT THAT WILL LOCK US IN FOR DECADES WE HAVE SOMEONE TO BASIC. NO INFLATION, NO REPLACEMENT COSTS, NO SENSITIVITY TESTING. SOMEHOW IN THEIR VERSION I WAS LOOKING AT SALES TAX SAID NA. DON'T UNDERSTAND THERE. S THIS THINGS FOR OPERATING EXPENSE. $12,000 FOR UNIFORMS PER YEAR. 15,000 FOR DECALS AND SINUS, 25,000 FOR TRAINING. 7,000 FOR RADIOS. I THOUGHT WE SHOULD CELL PHONES IN THE YEAR 2025. MY PERSONAL FAVORITE WAS AT FEES AND WE ARE PAYING THE COMPANY TO RUN THE APP AND ALSO PAYING THE APP FEES. SO I APPRECIATE THAT THE ONE PARKING CONTRACT IS NOW JUST LOCKING US IN FOR TWO YEARS WITH SEEMS LIKE TWO AUTOMATIC RENEWALS SO A TOTAL OF FIVE YEARS BUT THAT'S FIVE YEARS AND IT'S GOT TO TERMINATION FOR CONVENIENCE NOW IT SOUNDS LIKE BUT THAT -- THAT SOUNDS GREAT BUT AT THE SAME TIME YOU ARE ALSO LOOKING US IN A BOND ISSUE, THAT WILL RUN FOR FOR DECADES. YOU'RE GOING TO PUT HANDCUFFING ON THE CITIZENS. EVERYBODY IN THIS ROOM WILL BE LOCKED INTO THIS FOR YEARS. I THINK JUST AS A MATTER OF COURTESY TO EVERYBODY IN THE COMMUNITY THAT WE SHOULD LET THIS GO TO PUBLICREFRENDUM. THANK YOU. >> NEXT I HAVE SCOTT KENNELLY.
>> ON FRIDAY MY CLIENT, THE POLITICAL ACTION COMMITTEE THAT ORGANIZED THE PETITION AGAINST PAID PARKING FILED A LAWSUIT AGAINST THE CITY, MS. PRINCE MENTIONED IT AS A RESULT OF THE PAID PARKING EFFORTS. OPPOSITION FROM THE APPROXIMATE BE PUBLIC HAS BEEN STRONG. INSTITUTIONS HAVE USED EVERY MECHANISM AT THEIR DISPOSAL AND NOW MY CLIENT WAS FORCED TO DO A LEGAL ACTION TO DEFEND ALL THOSE INDIVIDUALS RIGHTS BY DEMONSTRATING THAT THE PROPOSED IMPLEMENTATION OF THE PLAN WOULD VIOLATE A NUMBER OF FEDERAL AND STATE LAWS. TONIGHT IS YOUR FIRST DISCUSSION OF THE PROPOSED AGREEMENT WITH ONE PARKING. I UNDERSTAND THAT IT IS SUBJECT TO IMPLEMENTATION LEGISLATION BUT I URGE THE COMMISSIONERS TO ASK THE CITY ATTORNEY A FEW QUESTIONS. NUMBER ONE, COULD CITY ATTORNEY TELL YOU TONIGHT THAT THIS AGREEMENT WOULD NOT VIOLATE FEDERAL AND STATE LAWS AS WE HAVE SAID IN THE LAWSUIT. THE LAWSUIT WAS FILED ON FRIDAY. I KNOW SHE WORKED ALL WEEKEND BUT THERE IS QUITE A BIT THERE AND WE DID QUITE A BIT OF RESEARCH. I KNOW SHE NEEDS TO LOOK INTO IT.
NUMBER 2 THERE'S A CLAUSE THAT ALLOWS TERMINATION IF IF THERE IS A VOTE. WHAT DAMAGES WILL THE CITY HAVE TO PAY TO ONE PARKING IF THE COURT, NOT THE CITIZENS DETERMINE THAT'S CITY IS NOT ALLOWED TO PROCEED? NUMBER 3, IF ONE OF THE REASONS FOR IMPLEMENTING THIS SO QUICKLY IS TO MOVE FORWARD WITH A BOND HAS PINNACLE BANK BEEN HIM FORMED OF THE PENDING LITIGATION? THE DOCUMENTATION I HAVE SEEN THAT THERE IS NO PENDING LITIGATION AS SET FORTH IN THE LAWSUIT THE PLAN IN IT'S CURRENT FORM WOULD VIOLATE FLORIDA'S RELIGIOUS FREEDOM RESTORATION ACT AS A RESULT OF THE BURDEN ON THE DOWNTOWN CHURCHES THAT RELY ON-STREET PARKING. IT WOULD VIOLATE FEDERAL RELIGIOUS LAND USE. THE BURDEN OF -- THE EXERCISE ON RELIGION ALSO TRIGGERS ISSUED UNTHE FIRST AMENDMENT OF THE UNITED STATES CONSTITUTION AND FLORIDA'S RELIGIOUS PROTECTSES. IT ALSO VIOLATES THE CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS TO ASSEMPLY AND PRIVACY.
THE PLAN PLANS TO USE LICENSE PLATE RECOGNITION TECHNOLOGY.
THE LAWSUIT ALSO POINTS OUT THAT THE CITY'S ACTIONS GO AGAINST FLORIDA ENACTMENT IN MARTHA SAID THAT CITIES HAVE TO WAIT BEFORE PROPOSING BURDEN SOME LAND DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS AND FINALLY THE COMMISSION IS CONSIDERING TONIGHT WHETHER TO DO TWO THINGS THAT ARE COMPLETELY AT ODDS WITH EACH OTHER. APPROVE A CONTRACT THAT WILL IMPLEMENT PARKING IN COMING MONTHS AND ALLOW VOTERS TO DECIDE IF THEY WANT PARKING. I URGE YOU TO DELAY THE VOTE THIS EVENING. REVIEW THE AGREEMENT.
REVIEW THE LAWSUIT. I'M NOT -- THE LAWSUIT WAS NOT INTENT TO THREATEN THE COMMISSION'S ACTIONS BUT TO MAKE SURE YOU ARE CONSIDERING ALL OF THE ISSUES BEFORE YOU DECIDE. THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU. >> I HAVE NO OTHER REQUESTS TO SPEAK FROM THE AUDIENCE. IS THERE ANY MORE DISCUSSION?
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>> POINT OF CLARITY. THIS IS LOOKING AT NOT SIGNING A CONTRACT TONIGHT BUT THIS IS GETTING THE APPROVAL THAT IF EVERYTHING ELSE MOVES FORWARD WE ARE GOOD WITH THIS. IS THAT WHAT
YOU ARE LOOKING FOR TONIGHT. >> RIGHT. IF YOU APPROVE THIS RESOLUTION THE TERMS OF THE AGREEMENT WOULD BE APPROVED IT COULD BE EFFECTIVE IF THE ORDINANCE WAS ADOPTED. YOU DO HAVE THE RIGHT TO CANCEL WITH 120 DAYS NOTICE IF -- WITH THE VOTE YOU WOULD HAVE A RIGHT TO CANCEL IMMEDIATELY. WITH WRITTEN NOTICE WITH THOSE FEW DAMAGES CLAUSE THAT WE HAD POINTED OUT BEFORE HE CAME TO THE PODIUM AND ARE VERY CLEAR IN THE CONTRACT IF IT IS READ COMPLETELY. ALSO YOU HAVE A NOTICE OF INTENT TO RENEW. SO IF WE MADE IT PAST THE FIRST YEAR ONE PARKING AND -- I'M ON PAGE 2 I BELIEVE. SORRY. NO. NO. YOU WERE IN THE RIGHT SPOT. I'M SO SORRY. PRIOR TO A RENEWAL I HEARD THE WORD AUTOMATIC. IT IS NOT AUTOMATIC. WE HAVE TO GIVE 120 DAYS NOTICE IN ADVANCE OF EXPIRATION OF INITIAL TERM OR RENEWAL TERM. SO YOU DO HAVE SEVERAL OPTIONS. WHAT THE -- THE IMPLEMENTING ORDINANCE IS WHERE THERE ARE LIMITATIONS ON WHAT THE PARKING ATTENDANTS CAN AND CAN'T DO SO THAT'S WHERE THE INFORMATION ACCOUNT THE AUTHORITY WOULD BE GIVEN. THEY HAVE NO AUTHORITY TO DO ANYTHING UNDER THIS CONTRACT AND THAT'S WHY I DID WANT TO YOU ADD THE ARTICLE 1 THAT YOU KNOW THEY ARE IMPLEMENT -- THE SCOPE OF SERVICES WOULD BE PURSUANT TO THE ENABLING ORDINANCES. I WASSA WAS ASSUMING BUT IT'S GOOD TO SAY IT. I DON'T HAVE CONSERBS ABOUT THIS CREDIT PER SE. AS YOU POINTED OUT COMMISSIONER POINTER, YOU ARE JUST AGREEING TO THESE TERMS AND IF ANYTHING HAPPENED WE COULD ALWAYS BRING IT BACK BUT IT WON'T BE EFFECTIVE AS OF TONIGHT.
>> THANK YOU. I HAVE VICE MAYOR. >> I MEAN THAT WAS THE QUESTION I WAS GOING TO ASK ACTUALLY. IF LEGAL ACTION IS TAKEN. IF PAID PARKING IS PUT IN LEGAL ACTION IS TAKEN HOW DOES THE CONTRACT BE EFFECTIVE? WE OWE THEM SOMETHING?
>> IF WE TERMINATE THE CONTRACT DUE TO CITIZENS INITIATIVE BEING
CERTIFIED. >> I DIDN'T ASK ABOUT THE CITIZEN'S INITIATIVE. IF THE COURT SAID YOU'RE TO STOP THIS ARE WE JUST GOING TO IGNORE THE JUDGE. ARE WE GOING TO IGNORE THE JUDGE IF HE SAYS STOP IT LOW DO WE GET OUT OF THIS CONTRACT?
>> THE CONTRACT IS NOT EFFECTIVE TONIGHT. THIS WOULD JUST BE A PIECE OF PAPER. WE WOULD ALL MOVE ON.
>> I UNDERSTAND. >> IT'S NOT EFFECTIVE.
>> I UNDERSTAND THAT. THAT COULD BE THROUGH THE COURT SYSTEM FOR MONTHS. WE COULD GET DOWN LITIGATION IN FEBRUARY OR MARCH.
PAID PARKING IS IN JANUARY I WANT TO KNOW WHAT WILL HAPPEN IF THE JUDGE SAYS STOP AND WE HAVE A BUNCH OF PAID PARKING METERS CONSTITUENT METERS SITTING THERE IN THE STREET.
>> THERE WILL BE NO PAID PARKING METERS AS YOU WILL SEE IN THE ORDINANCE WHEN THAT COMES UP UNDER 8.1 AND 8.2. THERE ARE NO METERS. THERE WILL BE SIGN AGE IF WE DO MOVE FORWARD. WE HAVE NOT GOTTEN TO THE AGENDA ITEM THAT TALKS ABOUT THE LITIGATION.
THERE HAS BEEN A LAWSUIT FILED. MR. KENNELLY DID RUIN MY WEEKEND AND I DID SPEND THE WEEKEND RESPONDING TO IT BECAUSE IT WAS AN EMERGENCY TEMPORARY INJUNCTION BASED ON SOME INFORMATION THAT, YOU KNOW, I DON'T THINK WAS AN EMERGENCY IN NATURE AND SO WE TOOK THE TIME TO POINT THAT OUT TO THE COURT.
WE HAVE ADVISED THE COURT IN OUR RESPONSE THAT THERE WAS ON OUR AGENDA TONIGHT. I DID SPEAK WITH HIM WHEN HE CALLED ME ON MONDAY.
WE DISCUSSED THAT IT WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO BE DONE TONIGHT THAT WAS A QUESTION HE ANSWERED. I DON'T SEE A -- I DON'T KNOW HOW TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION. WE HAVE NO LIABILITY WITH ONE PARKING. IT WOULD JUST DEPEND. WE WILL HAVE HEARINGS COMING UP HERE IN THE NEXT COUPLE OF WEEKS OR SO BEFORE YOU WOULD PROBABLY BE ABLE IT IMPLEMENT AN ORDINANCE WHICH IS THE POINT WE WOULD HAVE A HEARING BEFORE THE IMPLEMENTATION OF THE ORDINANCE SO THIS CONTRACT WOULDN'T BE EFFECTIVE. WE HAVE KEPT ONE PARKING INFORMED AND THEY ARE SITTING HERE AT THE TABLE. THEY
>> THANK YOU. I HAVE NO OTHER COMMISSION REQUESTS TO SPEAK. DO
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I HAVE A MOTION? >> I MOVE TO APPROVE.
>> AS AMENDED. >> AS AMENDED BY OUR CITY
ATTORNEY. SECTION 1. >> I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. ANY ADDITION COMMISSIONER DISCUSSION? SEEING NONE PLEASE START THE VOTE.
>> THAT MOTION PASSES 4-1. WE'LL MOVE ALONG.
[7.3 CITY SEAL USE APPROVAL - ONE PARKING, INC. - RESOLUTION 2025-206 APPROVING USE OF THE CITY SEAL FOR ONE PARKING, INC.; AUTHORIZING ADMINISTRATIVE CORRECTION OF SCRIVENER'S ERRORS; AND PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE. Synopsis: Approves One Parking, Inc., use of the City seal for parking management related materials.]
ITEM 7.3. THE CITY SEAL USE APPROVAL FOR ONE PARKING.>> THANK YOU MAYOR TIS IS CONSIDERATION OF RESOLUTION 2025-206 WHICH WOULD AUTHORIZE ONE PARKING TO USE THE CITY SEAL FOR ANY OF THEIRMATERIALS SUCH AS THE CITATIONS, SIGNS, OFFICIAL DOCUMENTATION, ANYTHING THAT THEY ARE CREATING ON BEHALF OF THE CITY WOULD INCLUDE OUR SEAL. I BELIEVE MS. PRINCE HAS ONE RECOMMENDED CHANGE TO THE EFFECTIVE DATE INSTEAD OF EFFECTIVE IMMEDIATELY EFFECTIVE WITH ANY ENABLING LEGISLATION.
I'LL TURN IT OVER TO ATTORNEY PRINCE.
>> THANK YOU. IT DID DAWN ON ME THAT -- BEFORE LITIGATION WAS FILED WE WERE AUTHORIZING THE USE OF THE SEAL TOMORROW AND THE CONTRACT IS NOT EVEN EFFECTIVE UNTIL THE ENABLING ORDINANCE AND IT'S NOT ENACTED. WE WOULD ASK YOU TO APPROVE THIS DEPENDING ON THE ORDINANCES BEING ADOPTED AND THEN WE WOULDN'T HAVE TO BRING IT BACK THEY COULDN'T USE THE SEAL FOR ANYTHING UNTIL THE
ORDINANCE WAS ADOPTED. >> THANK YOU. TO I HAVE ANY
QUESTIONS ON THIS ITEM? >> AS AMENDED.
>> DO I HAVE A SECOND? >> SECOND.
>> MOTION AND A SECOND. ANY ADDITIONAL COMMISSIONER DISCUSSION? SEEING NONE, MS. BACH PLEASE START THE VOTE.
[7.4 2026 ELECTION BALLOT REFERENDA - PAID PARKING COMMITTEE - RESOLUTION 2025-207 AUTHORIZING SUBMISSION OF THE PAID PARKING COMMITTEE BALLOT REFERENDA TO THE NASSAU COUNTY SUPERVISOR OF ELECTIONS FOR THE AUGUST 18, 2025, ELECTION; AUTHORIZING ADMINISTRATIVE CORRECTION OF SCRIVENER'S ERRORS; AND PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE. Synopsis: Authorizes the City Clerk to submit the Paid Parking Committee ballot referenda to the Nassau County Supervisor of Elections Office for placement on the August 18, 2026, election.]
THAT MOTION PASSES 4-1. NEXT WE WILL MOVE TO 7.4. OUR 2026 ELECTION BALLOT REFERENDA. WE HAVE TO APPROVE THIS WITH THEAMENDMENT AS WELL. >> THANK YOU. THIS IS CONSIDERATION OF RESOLUTION 2025-207 WHICH WOULD SELECT WHICH ELECTION NEXT YEAR THE PAID PARKING REFERENDA WOULD ME PLACED ON. STAFF IS RECOMMENDING AUGUST 18TH 2026. YES, THE CLERK HAS ONE RECOMMENDED AMENDMENT AS WELL.
THANK YOU. IF I HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ON 7.4?
>> SO AS I READ THE FRONT PAGE HERE IT SAYS TO THE SUPERVISOR FOR THE AUGUST 18TH, 2025. DOES THAT NEED TO BE 2026? OKAY.
OKAY. ALL RIGHT. THAT'S ANY ONLY QUESTION. OKAY. THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU COMMISSIONER. I SEE NO OTHER REQUEST TO SPEAK TO THE
COMMISSION. DO I HAVE A MOTION? >> SO MOVED. I DO.
>> SORRY. >> MOTION AND SECOND. HIM I HAVE A MOTION AND SECOND ANY MORE DISCUSSION?
>> I DIDN'T SECOND THAT. I JUST WANTED TO SAY THAT --. I WANT TO
>> OKAY. WHAT -- WHAT ARE WE DOING HERE? I MEAN THIS -- YOU KNOW -- YOU KNOW DARREN HASN'T HAD A CHANCE TO TALK TO THE COMMISSION BECAUSE I -- I'M TRYING TO BE, YOU KNOW COMMISSIONER UP HERE. LET ME SAY WHAT DARREN WOULD SAY IF HE COULD SIT AT THAT PODIUM. THIS COMMISSION HAS HOSED ME. YOU RAISED MY TAXES AND THEN YOU HAVE TAKEN AWAY SOMETHING THAT I DO QUITE OFTEN. I COME DOWN HERE ALL THE TIME DOWNTOWN. I COME DOWN HERE AND MY FAMILY MEETS ME DOWN WHO ARE. NOW I ONLY HAVE ONE PARKING PASS AND I WILL HAVE TO PAY FOR PARK FIGURE ING IF I WANT TO STAY LONGER THAN THREE HOURS. YOU KNOW, AS MUCH AS THIS -- AS THIS COMMISSION HAS HOSED ME I ALSO UNDERSTAND THAT I'M -- I'M ONE PERSON. RIGHT? THERE IS -- SO MANY OTHER PEOPLE OUT THERE THAT DON'T COME DOWNTOWN THAT GO TO THE REC CENTER THEY
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GO TO THE BEACHES. THEY GO SOMEWHERE ELSE, RIGHT? THEY GO TO THE GOLF CLUB. SO THEY DON'T REALLY CARE ABOUT PAID PARKING.THEY MAY BE FOR IT. THEY MAY ABSOLUTELY BE FOR PAID PARKING.
WHY ARE WE GOING TO IMPLEMENT IT WITHOUT EVEN GIVING THE VOTERS A CHANCE TOASTED BEFORE WE DO IT? IT ISN'T THAT DIFFICULT. STAFF HAS SAID $90,000 AND WE COULD GET IT DONE IN APRIL. WHY AREN'T WE DOING THAT? WHY ARE WE CONTINUING TO SHOVE THIS DOWN THEIR THROAT WHEN WE HAVE EVERY LAST BIT OF ABILITY TO FIND OUT BEFORE WE GET INTO A CONTRACT. BEFORE WE AGAINST INTO A -- SO MANY OTHER THINGS THAT LOCK US INTO MILLIONS AND MILLIONS OF TAXPAYER DOLLARS. WHY AREN'T WE ASKING THEM? I'M PERFECTLY ACCEPTABLE TO KNOW THAT I'M PERSONALLY AGAINST PAID PARKING BUT I KNOW THERE'S PEOPLE OUT THERE THAT ARE FOR IT. WHY AREN'T WE PUTTING THIS TO A VOTE BEFORE WE GET LOCKED INTO A CONTRACT? I JUST DON'T UNDERSTAND IT. I CAN'T -- I CAN'T POSSIBLY UNDERSTAND WHY YOU WOULDN'T DO IT. IT MAKES ABSOLUTELY ZERO SENSE TO ME I CAN'T -- THE LOGIC BEHIND WE ARE GOING TO PUT IT? AND THEN SEE WHAT HAPPENS LATER IS PROBABLY SOME OF THE DUMBEST THINGS I HAVE EVER HEARD OF.
THAT'S ALL I GOT. >> THANK YOU VICE MAYOR.
COMMISSIONER YOU HAVE THE FLOOR >> I WANTED TO MAKE A CORRECTION THE ORDINANCE AND THE FEES I ADVOCATED FOR ONE PARKING PASS PER FAMILY BUT ITS BEEN CHANGED TO TWO PER FAMILY.
>> THANK YOU. >> AND I BELIEVE AN UNLIMITED? IS IT UNLIMITED? UP TO FOUR ADDITIONAL OR FOUR TOTAL?
>> WHAT WAS THE QUESTION? >> IN --. > IT'S UNLIMITED.
>> UP TO AN UNLIMITED NUMBER BUT THEY WOULD HAVE TO PAY THE FEE
OF $24. >> I HAVE TO PAY SOMETHING.
>> IF YOU WANT MORE THAN THREE. TWO CARS, THANK YOU.
>> MORE THAN I'M PAYING NOW. >> COMMISSIONER.
>> I'M DONE. >> YEAH. I WANT TO ADDRESS THE COMMUNITY ON THIS. YOU KNOW A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE ASKING ME WHY DID ANYTHING -- DID I EVEN RUN AGAIN BECAUSE IT'S SO MUCH FUN RUNNING. I RAN BECAUSE I ACTUALLY GOT TIRED OF THE PREVIOUS COMMISSION'S TALKING A BIG GAME, TALKING ABOUT -- TALKING ABOUT SKATE PARKS, ABOUT FIXING THE WATER PARK, ABOUT BONDS ABOUT SOCCER FIELDS BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY THEY DIDN'T MOVE FORWARD ON ANY OF IT. AND NOT ONLY -- NOT MOVING FORWARD ON ANY OF IT THEY KEPT LOWERING THE TAXES. AS THE TOWN, AS THE WATERFRONT IS FALLING APART THEIR ANSWER WAS DO NOTHING.
WOULD YOU PUT UP SOME PICTURES PLEASE FOR ME? THIS IS OUR DOWNTOWN THAT EVERYBODY LOVES SO MUCH.
METERS, KIOSKS. THERE'S NOT GOING TO BE ANY METERS AND KIOSKS. PAID PARKING SHOULDN'T BE A REQUIREMENT. IT SHOULD NOT COST TO GET A CUP OF COFFEE. THERE'S FOUR HOURS. FOUR HOURS FOR ANYONE WHO LIVES IN THE CITY OR WHO BUYS A PASS AND LIVES IN THE COUNTY CAN COME DOWN, SEVEN DAYS A WEEK AND IF THEY CAN'T GET THEIR COFFEE WITH NO IN FOUR HOURS THERE'S ANOTHER ISSUE.
THIS HAS NEVER BEEN ABOUT SOLVING A PARKING PROBLEM. THIS IS ABOUT CREATING REVENUE TO FIX THE TOWN THAT EVERYBODY SAYS THEY LOVE SO MUCH AND ASKING PEOPLE THE MILLIONS OF PEOPLE WHO COME HERE VISITING WHO ARE NOT CONTRIBUTING TO THE HEALTH AND WELFARE OF THE DOWNTOWN AND THE 100,000 PEOPLE IN THE COUNTY
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WHO LAUGH ABOUT NOT HAVING TO PAY BUT GETTING ALL THE BENEFITS OF DOWNTOWN AND I HAVE SPOKEN TO SO MANY PEOPLE THAT SIGN THAT PETITION THAT EVERYBODY IS BRAGGING ABOUT. I ASK THEM WHAT DID THEY TELL YOU WHEN YOU WERE SIGN THAT PETITION? THEY SAID NOTHING. THEY JUST SAID ARE YOU IN FAVOR OF PAID PARKING? I SAID NO AND THEY SAID DO YOU WANT TO SIGN THE THING? THEY SAID -- DID THEY MENTION TO YOU THAT WE'RE TRYING TO FIX THE DOWNTOWN AND THE WATERFRONT? DID THEY MENTION THAT THIS WAS TO TRY TO HELP THE CITIZENS, NOT PUT IT ON THE BACKS OF THEM? WE HAVE ADVOCATES HERE WHO PAY $218 A YEAR IN CITY PROPERTY TAXES WHILE OTHER PEOPLE WHO LIVE DOWNTOWN PAY 7 OR 8 OR $6,000 IN YEARLY CITY PROPERTY TAXES. ALL WE ARE TRYING TO DO, THIS COMMISSION TO ANSWER YOUR COMMISSION -- I'M TIRED OF SEEING THIS TOWN FALL APART, PEOPLE CONTINUE TO ACCUSE THE CITY OF MISMANAGEMENT AND THE ANSWER TO ALL OF THIS IS DO NOTHING? LOWER OUR TAXES SOME MORE? I SPOKE TO A PERSON THE OTHER DAY WHO LIVES DOWNTOWN ON FISH STREET AND SHE HAS A DECISION NOT TO WEAR WEDGES OR HEELS ANYWHERE DOWNTOWN AND SHE LIVES DOWNTOWN BECAUSE SHE IS SCARED OF BREAKING HER ANKLE ON THE SIDEWALKS. NOW, YOU SAW THE PICTURES. IF YOU ARE ALL HAPPY WITH THAT I'M NOT. IF THIS COMMUNITY WANTS TO GO TO THE BALLOT, THAT'S GREAT. GO TO THE BALLOT. BECAUSE YOU ARE GOING TO GIVE THIS COMMISSION WHO IS ACTUALLY TRYING TO DO SOMETHING PERMISSION TO EITHER RAISE THE TAXES TO START FIXING THE TOWN AND WATERFRONT OR NOT RAISE OUR TAXES AND HAVE OTHER PEOPLE CONTRIBUTE AT A NOMINAL FEE.WHEN PEOPLE SAY WELL WHAT'S $2 MILLION A YEAR GOING TO DO IF $2 MILLION A YEAR FLOATS THE $30 MILLION THAT WE NEED TO FIX THE DOWNTOWN AND THE WATERFRONT. IT'S TIME NOW TO START TAKING CARE OF THE CITY THAT WE SAY WE LOVE SO MUCH AND I'M PROUD OF THIS COMMISSION FOR DOING IT AND NOT KICKING THE CAN DOWN THE ROAD. SO THAT'S WHY I'M HERE DOING THIS.
>> THANK YOU COMMISSIONER. VICE MAYOR.
>> I MEAN LET'S -- LET'S STUDY WHY THE SEAWALL ISN'T BEING BUILT OR AT LEAST A PORTION OF IT RIGHT NOW. WHAT'S THE MAIN REASON WHY THE SEAWALL ISN'T BEING CONSTRUCTED? WHY AREN'T WE STARTING ON A SECTION TOMORROW? CAN WE ANSWER THAT QUESTION? JUST ONE SMALL SECTION. I JUST WANT JUST A
SMALL SECTION DONE. >> WAITING FOR STATE PERMITS. WE CAN PROVIDE WHEN WE HAVE STATE PERMITS.
>> RIGHT. THAT WILL CONTINUE WITH EVERY OTHER PROJECT THAT WE HAVE AS WE WAIT ON PROJECTS, AS WE WAIT ON CONSTRUCTION. AS WE WAIT ON EVERYTHING ELSE IT'S NOT MONEY. HAVING $30 MILLION IN THE BANK ISN'T GOING TO MAKE THAT SEAWALL CONSTRUCT ITSELF ANY FASTER WE HAVE I CAN SIX MILLION DOLLARS OF STATE MONEY SITTING THERE. IT'S -- NOT -- IT'S GOT NOTHING TO DO WITH THE MONEY WE HAVE. IT'S THE FACT THAT WE CAN'T GET OUT OF OUR OWN WAY WITH PERMITS. THEN WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT DOWNTOWN -- I WAS GOING TO WAIT FOR THIS NEXT ITEM. LET'S GET IT OUT OF THE WAY. THAT'S NOT A FIVE MINUTE PROJECT. IT'S NOT TWO GUY WAS A SHOVEL. THINK ABOUT DOWNTOWN. THINK ABOUT THE SIDEWALKS.
THAT'S CLOSING SIDEWALKS. IT'S CLOSING ENTRANCES TO BUILDINGS.
IT'S DOING ALL OF THOSE THINGS. IT IS MORE LIKE LOOKING LIKE OPENING UP THAN WITH TWO GUY AND A SHOVEL OR SOMEONE WITH CONCRETE. IT'S A THREE YEAR PROJECT MINIMUM. MORE THAN LIKELY CLOSER TO FIVE AND INTERRUPTING EVERY OTHER KIND OF BUSINESS INCLUDING THE PARKING INVOLVED IN IT. WHAT IS $30 MILLION RIGHT THEN AND THERE GOING TO DO? WHY ARE HE WE GOING TO PAY INTEREST ON SOMETHING IMMEDIATELY THAT IS GOING TO TAKE FIVE YEARS TO DO ANY WAY? THAT AGAIN DOESN'T MAKE ANY SENSE TO ME. IT'S LIKE BUYING A CAR AND PAYING INTEREST ON IT AND YOU GET IT FIVE YEARS LATER. THAT IS WHAT WE ARE DOING WHEN WE GET INTO THIS BOND ISSUE. WHEN WE COULD BE DOING IT RESPONSIBLY A LITTLE BIT AT A TIME. THERE'S OTHER WAYS THAT WE CAN -- WE CAN GET -- BRICKS DOWN WITH AN RFP. THAT'S NOT A PROBLEM. WE WOULD BE ABLE TO DO THAT AND IT DOESN'T COST THE TAXPAYER A SINGLE DOLLAR. THE SEAWALL. $6 MILLION SITTING
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THERE. NOT SPENDING A DIME OF IT. NOT SPENDING A SINGLE DIME OF THAT $6 MILLION THE STATE GAVE US. THEN DOWNTOWN IS A HALF DECADE LONG PROBLEM THAT'S IF THEY DON'T FIND ANY PROBLEMS. THAT'S IF WE DON'T RUN INTO MAJOR SE WITH, AR ISSUES OR ANYTHING ELSE. HAS ANYONE SEEN THE GOVERNMENT WORK? I HAVE.IT'S SLOW. IT'S PROBABLY GOING TO BE A LOT LONGER THAN THAT. I DON'T KNOW WHY WE ARE LOCKING OURSELVES INTO PAID PARKING OR A LONG TIME REVENUE BOND THAT WE CAN'T EVEN SHOW WHAT WE ARE GOING TO BE ABLE TO COMPLETE THESE PROJECTS.
>> THANK YOU. >> I DISAGREE WITH A LOT OF WHAT YOU SAID. WE DON'T HAVE SIX MILLION DOLLARS FROM THE STATE SITTING IN THE BANK. THAT TWO MILLION DOLLARS GRANT THAT YOU ALL GOT FROM THE STATE AND THE FOUR MILLION DOLLARS GRANT WE GOT. THOSE ARE REIMBURSEMENT GRANTS. WE HAVE TO COME UP WITH THE MONEY OURSELVES AND THEN ONCE THE PROJECT IS COMPLETE AND WE PROVE TO THEM THE COMPLETENESS AND THAT WE SPENT THE MONEY AS WE SAID WE WOULD THEN THEY WILL REIMBURSE US. WE HAVE TO FLOAT SIX MILLION DOLLARS FOR YEARS AND THIS COMMISSION HAS ASKED FOR ANOTHER FOUR MILLION SO NOW THAT'S UP TO TEN MILLION DOLLARS. ALL THE WHILE WE COULD BE LOSING THE MONEY BECAUSE WE HAVE HAD TO ASK THE STATE FOR THE EXTENSION ON THE GRANT YOU GOT. THE LIKELIHOOD OF -- IF WE AREN'T DEMONSTRATE THAT WE ARE WILLING TO FIND THE REVENUE TO GET THESE PROJECTS DONE SHR INKS. I DO AGREE WITH YOU THAT DOWNTOWN WILL BE A HUGE MESS OF A PROJECT. I MEAN ANYONE WHO HAS DONE ANY RENOVATION. IT'S A HUGE MESS OF A NIGHTMARE OF A PROJECT BUT IT STILL HAS TO BE DONE. JUST BECAUSE IT'S UNPLEASANT DOESN'T MEAN WE DON'T DO IT. WE AREN'T FLOATING A BOND IMMEDIATELY. WE CAN'T TIE IF I'M CORRECT WE CANNOT TIE PARKING REVENUE TO A BOND UNLESS WE CAN DEMONSTRATE THAT WE CAN MAKE THIS REVENUE. THE BOND WE ARE TALKING ABOUT TONIGHT IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN IS JUST A THREE YEAR BOND.
>> UNRELATED >> AND UNRELATED. IT'S JUST FLOATING MONEY TO TAKE DOWN -- BECAUSE THAT'S A PROJECT WE HAVE KNOWN ABOUT FOR YEARS BUT WE LITERALLY HAVEN'T SAVED A DIME WE HAVEN'T PUT A SINGLE DIME IN ANY POCKET OF MONEY TO TAKE DOWN WHAT WE KNEW WAS A FAILING BUILDING. I -- I UNDERSTAND THAT IT SEEMS LIKE WE ARE SHOVING THIS DOWN EVERYBODY'S THROAT BUT WE HAVE BEEN TALKING ABOUT THIS FOR 11 MONTHS. WE HAVE A PAID PARKING REFRENDUM THAT 1700 PEOPLE DID SIGN IT'S A LOT OF PEOPLE. LIKE I SAID BEFORE 10,000 PEOPLE DIDN'T SIGN IT. WE HAVE RECEIVED EMAILS EVERY DAY FROM RESIDENTS WHO WANT US TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THESE PROJECTS AND THEY WANT TOURISTS TO HELP PAY. WE ARE ALL GOING TO PARK FOR FREE. THE TOURIST ALSO HELP US PAY FOR THESE PROJECTS. AND -- YES, IT MIGHT TURN IT AROUND BUT -- I THINK THERE ARE A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO WANT US TO MOVE FORWARD.
>> THANK YOU. >> JUST TO ANSWER. BECAUSE IT'S DIFFICULT. WE JUST DIDN'T DO IT. THAT'S WHAT ARE YOU SAYING. WE DON'T DO IT BECAUSE IT'S
DIFFICULT. >> THAT'S NOT TRUE.
>> THIS IS WHY THIS COMMISSION IS MOVING FORWARD. I HAVE BEEN ON PREVIOUS COMMISSIONS WHEN I DID HAVE THIS TYPE OF SUPPORT.
THOSE CRACKED WALLS AREN'T GOING TO FIX THEMSELVES. IT ISN'T GOING TO GET BETTER THREE, FOUR YEARS FROM NOW AND IT'S NOT GOING TO GET EASY TORE DO IT. THE REASON WHY AUBURN ROW THE MONEY XU GET IT READY TO GO AND YOU DON'T PIECE MEAL IT IS BECAUSE YOU ARE RIGHT. WHEN THEY TEAR UP 3RD STREET ALL MY BUSINESSES ARE GOING TO BE AFFECTED. YEAH ALL MY BUSINESSES ARE GOING TO BE AFFECTED AND I'M FINE WITH THAT BECAUSE IT'S IN THE BEST INTEREST OF THE COMMUNITY. IT'S IN THE BEST INTEREST OF THIS TOWN. YES. IT'LL TAKE MONTHS TO TEAR UP SIDEWALKS, FIX THE ELECTRIC, GET THE INFRASTRUCTURE DOWN AND THAT'S GOING TO GO FROM -- FRONT STREET TO SECOND STREET TO THIRD STREET, 4TH STREET AND IT HAS IT BE INTEREST YOU HAVE TO HAVE THE MONEY HAVE HAVE YOU TO HAVE THE CONTRACTOR AND YOU HAVE TO GO FAST. I'M NOT ENCOURAGING THE CITY, STAFF TO BE DOING
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THIS. PEOPLE WHO DO THIS FOR A LIVING AND THAT'S ALL THEY DO.THOSE ARE THE PEOPLE WE HAVE TO BRING IN. IT COSTS MONEY TO DO IT. IT'S TIME. YOU SAW THE PICTURES. THEY AREN'T GOING TO GET BETTER. IT'S NEVER GOING TO GET CHEAPER. YOU KNOW WE -- 15 YEARS AGO. THIS DEAR SIR GOING TO GET OPENED UP FOR $65,000, THAT'S WHAT THE ENGINEERING WAS BACK THEN. IT WASN'T ON -- THE TAXES. IT WAS ON THE FRANCHISE FEE. IT WAS ELECTRIC FRANCHISE FEE. ALL WE DID WAS -- WE SUCCESSFUL IN GETTING MONEY FOR THE LIBRARY. WE WERE ALL THROWN OUT OF OFFICE. THEY GAVE THE MONEY BACK. 15 YEARS LATER THIS REDOING THE SAME WATERFRONT PARK THAT WAS DESIGNED THEY OPENED UP A HATCH FOR ALMOST TWO MILLION DOLLARS. SEE HOW THIS WORKS IN YOU KEEP DELAYING THINGS. YOU DID HE LAY AND DELAY THING ITSELF MAKES EVERYTHING WORSE.
THE PEOPLE WHO ARE SAYING THAT THERE IS CONCERN ABOUT THE BUSINESSES AND THE PAID PARKING. I WILL TELL YOU HOW YOU GET MORE CONCERNED. HAVE THE INFRASTRUCTURE AND HAVE THE PLACE START LOOKING RATY WHERE PEOPLE DON'T WANT TO COME DOWN AND SHOP. THAT IS WHAT PEOPLE HAVE TO THINK ABOUT. SO, DO THE RECALL FOR ME. DO WHAT YOU HAVE TO DO. THAT'S FINE AS LONG AS I'M HERE I'M GOING TO DO THE. THAT'S TO TAKE CARE OF THIS COMMUNITY AND THE BEST INTERESTS OF THIS COMMUNITY.
RECALL GOES AWAY. THE TOPIC OF THE LITIGATION. ITS GOING TO GO AWAY. EVERYTHING IS GOING TO GO AWAY IF YOU HOLD THE VOTE AND GIVE THE PEOPLE BACK THEIR VOTE AND SAY HEY, LISTEN. WE ARE GOING TO LET YOU DECIDE THIS AND THEN WE WILL GET IN THE BUCKET AND GO FORWARD FROM THERE. IF IT MEANS PAID PARKING YOU WILL HAVE ALL THE REVENUE YOU WANT AND YOU WILL BE ABLE TO HAVE THE MANDATE THAT YOU NEED TO MOVE FORWARD. WHAT THIS BOILS DOWN TO IS WHY ARE WE NOT GIVING THE CITIZENS THE OPPORTUNITY TO VOTE ON THIS WHEN IT'S VERY CLEARLY AVAILABLE TO US?
>> THANK YOU. >> HOW DO YOU KNOW THAT, SIR? HOW DO YOU KNOW THAT IF WE DO THAT ALL THIS OTHER STUFF GOES AWAY? DO YOU HAVE SOME SECRET GROUP OF PEOPLE THAT YOU'RE ORGANIZING WITH THAT YOU ARE SPEAKING FOR, THAT YOU KNOW
THAT? >> YEAH. BRING ANY OF THEM UP HERE. ANYONE WANT TO COME UP AND SPEAK AND SAY --
>> I'LL ASK YOU NOT TO SOLICIT OPINION FROM THE AUDIENCE.
>> YOU'RE THE ONE WHO SAID THAT IF WE MOVE -- IF WE MOVE THIS VOTE UP AND WE STOP EVERYTHING, EVERYTHING ELSE GOES AWAY AND I
JUST WANT TO UNDERSTAND --. >> HOW I KNOW?
>> THAT YOU KNOW THAT. >> I LISTEN TO THEM.
>> OKAY. >> I HEARD THEM. I HAVE LISTENED TO WHAT THEY HAVE SAID.
>> AND THERE ARE NO PARKING METERS DOWNTOWN. SO I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY THAT -- CONTINUES TO BE AN ISSUE OTHER THAN YOU USE IT AS, YOU KNOW SOMETHING TO TO GET PEOPLE RILED UP AND I DON'T UNDERSTAND HOW YOU CAN SIT UP HERE AND SAY THAT THINGS LIKE RECALL ELECTIONS ARE GOING TO -- PETITIONS ARE GOING TO GO AWAY UNLESS YOU ARE ACTIVELY INVOLVED IN THAT CONVERSATION.
THAT'S REALLY DISAPPOINTING TO ME AND, AT THIS POINT, ALL I HAVE TO SAY IS CAN WE JUST PLEASE CALL THE VOTE ON THIS?
>> COMMISSIONER. >> I DO HAVE ONE THING, MR. MAYOR IF I MAY BEFORE YOU CALL THE VOTE.
>> CERTAINLY. >> I THINK THAT AS MR. KENNELLY SAID -- [INAUDIBLE] AND WE LISTENED TO HIM AND -- YOU KNOW
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UNDER -- WHEN WE GET TO THE LAWSUIT THERE ARE FOUR COMPLAINTS THAT DO -- HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH RECALL. IF THOSE WOULD GO AWAY WOULD BE UP TO A JUDGE TO DECIDE IF WE ARE VIOLATING THOSE FOUR. I DON'T -- BASED ON THE LITIGATION THAT HAS BEEN FILED AND BASED ON THE FACT THAT HE ROSE AND SAID HE WASN'T TRYING TO THREATEN US. HE WAS TRYING TO POINT OUT THAT OUR ORDINANCE COULD HAVE ISSUES. I DON'T KNOW THAT JUST THE ELECTION IS GOING TO MAKE THIS GO AWAY. THERE WILL BE OTHER THINGS WE WILL BE INVOLVED IN LITIGATION OVER OUR REGARDING SOME CONCERNS THAT HE -- SO THAT'S JUST -- A CLARITY FOR THE RECORD. OTHER THAN THAT. THANK YOU FOR THE TIME TO SPEAKTO THAT. >> THANK YOU. FOR WHAT IT'S WORTH I THINK YOU'RE INCORRECT THAT THIS ALL GOES AWAY IF WE JUST LET THE VOTE HAPPEN BECAUSE YOU AND I HAVE BEEN ON THIS BOARD THREE YEARS AND YOU PICK YOUR WEEK AND SOMETHING GOES ON FACEBOOK THAT WE CAN GET ROASTED ABOUT. I JUST DON'T THINK IT'S FAIR TO TAKE THE TEMPERATURE BY FACEBOOK POSTS AND I WOULD INVITE ALL OF OUR CITIZENS TO BE IN THIS ROME ROOM WHEN THINGS LIKE THAT ARE HAPPENING. SO I WILL TAKE A MOTION.
>> MOVE TO APPROVE. >> SECOND.
[7.5 LINE OF CREDIT NOTE, SERIES 2025 - RESOLUTION 2025-208 AUTHORIZING ISSUANCE OF THE CITY'S CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT REVENUE NOTE, SERIES 2025 IN THE PRINCIPAL AMOUNT OF NOT TO EXCEED TO FINANCE AND/OR REIMBURSE THE COST OF CERTAIN CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS AS DESCRIBED HEREIN, AND TO PAY ASSOCIATED TRANSACTIONAL COSTS; AUTHORIZING THE SALE OF THE NOTE TO PINNACLE BANK, AS LENDER, PURSUANT TOA NON- REVOLVING CREDIT AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE CITY AND THE LENDER; AUTHORIZING THE EXECUTION AND DELIVERY OF THE NON-REVOLVING CREDIT AGREEMENT; PROVIDING THAT THE NOTE SHALL BE A LIMITED OBLIGATION OF THE CITY PAYABLE FROM NON-AD VALOREM REVENUES BUDGETED, APPROPRIATED AND DEPOSITED AS PROVIDED IN THE NON-REVOLVING CREDIT AGREEMENT; AUTHORIZING THE MAYOR AND OTHER CITY OFFICIALS TO EXECUTE SUCH DOCUMENTS AND TAKE SUCH ACTIONS AS MAY BE NECESSARY OR DESIRABLE IN CONNECTION WITH ISSUANCE OF THE NOTE; DESIGNATING THE NOTE A "QUALIFIED TAX-EXEMPT OBLIGATION" FOR PURPOSES OF SECTION OF THE INTERNAL REVENUE CODE; PROVIDING FOR CERTAIN OTHER MATTERS IN CONNECTION WITH THE ISSUANCE OF THE NOTE; AND PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.. Synopsis: Authorizes financing in an amount not to exceed $7,000,000 for the demolition and redevelopment of the Brett's restaurant area.]
THAT MOTION PASSES ONTO 7.5. LINE OF CREDIT.>> THANK YOU. I CAN GIVE AN OVERVIEW OF THIS CONSIDERATION OF RESOLUTION 2025-208. WHICH WOULD ISSUE A BANK LOAN TO THE CITY FOR ACTIVITY AT THE WATERFRONT.
I WANT TO INTRODUCE OUR INVESTMENT BANKER FROM HILLTOP SECURITY AND MR. CHRISTOPHER ROW. MS. PRINCE HAS ALSO BEEN INVOLVED IN THIS PROCESS TO MAKE SURE WE ARE DOING EVERYTHING BY THE BOOK. NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. I WANTED TO REMIND YOU OF THE VISION. THE INTENTION AFTER THE PRESENTATION BY THIS SUMMER IS FOR THE DEMOLITION OF THE BUILDING AND THE TWO SETS OF PLATFORMS AND PILINGS ASSOCIATED WITH IT. THE SOUTHERN PIER AND THEN THE RECONNECTION OF DOCK A TO THE MAIN PIER. SO THAT'S WHAT -- THAT'S WHAT THE PROJECT ENTAILS. I WILL GO THROUGH SOME OF THE OTHER DRAWINGS JUST AS A REFRESHER ABOUT WHAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT. NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. THIS IS THE DRAWING THAT SHOWS THE AREA OF THE DEMOLITION AND THE ANTICIPATED RANGE OF COSTS FOR THE DEMOLITION WORK. YOU CAN SEE THAT THEY WOULD INTEND TO BRING A BARGE IN ON THE NORTHERN SIDE BY DOCK A AND ALSO DEMOLITION AREA IN THE GREEN SPACE ON THE LAND WARD SIDE OF THE BUILDING. IT INVOLVES RELOCATION OF THE FUEL TANKS AND THE UTILITY LINES UNDER THE CURRENT SOUTHERN PIER AND DEMOLITION OF THE BUILDING. THEIR ESTIMATED COST WAS 3.8 TO $5.2 MILLION FOR THIS WORK INCLUDED IN THAT IS GO $202.2 MILLION FOR THE REBUILD OF THE SEAWALL IN THIS AREA UNDERNEATH.
IT'S ABOUT 120 LINEAR FEET. NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. THIS IS THE PLAN VIEW OF WHAT YOU REQUESTED TO GO BACK WHICH IS JUST THE RECONNECTION OF DOCK A. REBUILD WAS ESTIMATED TO BE ABOUT 365,000 IN ADDITION TO THAT 5.2 MILLION OF DEMOLITION WORK. THIS SLIDE IS FROM OUR DESIGN ENGINEERS. THIS IS SHOWING YOU AGAIN THE SEAWALL SECTIONS. I WANTED TO BRING IT UP FOR A COUPLE OF REASONS. I THINK SOME PEOPLE DON'T UNDERSTAND. WE HAVE A SEAWALL WE HAVE THE EXCITING SEAWALL IT IS ABOUT 97 YEARS OLD. IT WAS CONSTRUCTED IN 1927 AND IT IS FAILING.
SPECIFICALLY PARKING LOTS A AND B ARE FAILING. THE IRON RODS THAT GO BACK INTO THE EARTH HAVE CORRODED THROUGH COMPLETELY. WE HAVE FAILURES FROM TIME TO TIME WE HAD A SIGNIFICANT FAILURE IN PARKING LOT B THIS SUMMER WHERE ALL OF THE EARTH MOVED INTO THE
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RIVER AND WE HAD TO COME BACK IN THE PARKING LOT AND PUT IN A LOT OF FILL TO FILL IN THAT CAVITY, THAT SINK HOLE THAT WAS CREATED.THE INTENT IS WHEN WE REBUILD THE SEAWALL WE WILL MAKE IT TALLER TO NINE FEET ELEVATION TO, YOU KNOW, DEAL WITH ANY INCREASING SEA LEVEL RISE OR THE HIGH TIDES WE HAVE BEEN EXPERIENCING. THE PORTION THAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT SEGMENT THREE IS ESTIMATED TO BE ABOUT $6.8 MILLION OR $17,900 A RUNNING FOOT AND AGAIN WE ARE ONLY DOING A PORTION THAT HAVE IN THIS PROJECT. ABOUT 120 FEET WHICH EQUATES TO $2.1 MILLION.
NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. THE PRIOR STEP WE HAVE TAKEN TO BRING US TO WHERE WE ARE TONIGHT. OBVIOUSLY PRIOR TO MY ARRIVAL IN THE CITY WE CONSTRUCTED THE FIRST SEGMENT OF SEAWALL IN 2022 AND WE WERE AWARDED THE ONE MILLION DOLLARS GRANT FOR THE TOTAL DESIGN AND THAT'S GOING TO COVER FROM THE BERM AT THE SOUTHERN END UP TO THE NORTH END OF PARKING LOT B. IT DOES NOT COVER ANYTHING NORTH OF PARKING LOT B AT THIS TIME BECAUSE OF THE PRIVATE PROPERTY OWNERSHIP ISSUES WE HAVE IN THAT AREA. IN FEBRUARY THE COMMISSION ADOPTED YOUR STRATEGIC PROPERTIES. WE COMPLETED THE LITIGATION AND TENANT SOLUTIONS IN THE CURRENT BUILDING. WE WERE AWARDED THE TWO STATE GRANTS FOR CONSTRUCTION. WE HAVE MENTIONED THEM EARLIER. THE TWO AND FOUR MILLION DOLLARS. I THINK IT'S GOOD TO POINT OUT WE DON'T HAVE THAT MONEY THAT'S NOT OURS TO SPEND WE ARE REQUIRED TO FRONT THE COSTS. DO THE WORK, INVOICE THE CONTRACTOR. MAKE SURE THE CHECKS HAVE CLEARED THEN WE CAN APPLY TO THE STATE FOR REIMBURSEMENT OF THOSE FUNDS. WE DO HAVE TO HAVE MONEY IN THE BANK BEFORE WE START. THIS SUMMER WE CONDITION CONDUCTED A PUBLIC INPUT. IN JUNE WE HAD THE TOWN HALL MEETING. IN JULY YOU ISSUED RESOLUTIONS 110 AND 111. THAT WAS THE WORK ORDER FOR $266,000 TO DESIGN THE DEMOLITION AND THEN YOU PASSED THE INTENT TO ISSUE THE TAX EXEMPT FINANCING. IN AUGUST WE ISSUED THE RFP FOR THE LINE OF CREDIT AND THEN IN OCTOBER OUR PERMIT WAS SUBMITTED TO THE ARMY CORP. OF ENGINEERS FOR DEMOLITION OF THE STRUCTURES. NEXT SLIDE. IN RESPONSE TO THE RFP RECEIVED FIVE SUBMITTABLE THE FROM BANKS. THEY ARE LISTED ON THE SCREEN. THE EXPERTS TONIGHT ALONG WITH CITY STAFF ARE RECOMMENDING THAT WE AWARD THE LOAN TO PINNACLE BANK. YOU CAN SEE INTEREST INTEREST RATE IS 3.82% WHICH IS THE LOWEST OF THE FIVE THAT SUBMITTED. IN ADDITION THE UNUSED FEE HAS A FAIRLY LOW RISK. WE EXPECT THAT WE WON'T BE CHARGED THAT UNUSED FEE. WE EXPECT TO MAKE ENOUGH DRAW WAS IN THE FIRST YEAR THAT WE WILL AVOID THAT UNUSED FEE. IN ADDITION THERE WAS ADDED FLEXIBILITY WITH PINNACLE BANK ON THE NUMBER OF DRAWS WE CAN MAKE AND THE AMOUNTS OF THOSE DRAWS. I'LL LET YOUR EXPERTS ANSWER ANY SPECIFIC QUESTIONS YOU HAVE RELATED TO THAT. NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. WHEN WE TALK ABOUT THE REPAYMENT THIS LOAN IS FOR A THREE YEAR TERM. IT IS LIKE A HELOCK YOU THAT WOULD TAKE OUT ON YOUR HOME. WE ONLY REPAY WHAT WE DRAW DOWN. IF THE BIDS COME IN AT THREE MILLION DOLLARS AND WE ARE IN GREAT SHAPE WE ONLY DRAW OUT THREE MILLION DOLLARS. THERE ARE TWO DIFFERENT PATHS AS I SEE THEM FOR THE REIMBURSEMENT AND THE BANKS AND OUR EXPERTS LOOKED AT THE CITY'S ABILITY TO REPAY BEFORE GRANTING US THIS LOAN. PAID PARKING REVENUE WAS NOT INCLUDED IN THAT ANALYSIS BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE IT. THE BANKS AND THE FINANCING AGENCIES CANNOT LOOK TO PAY PARKING REVENUE BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE IT. WE DON'T RELY ON THAT. IN THE FIRST SITUATION WE WOULD RELY ON STATE REIMBURSEMENTS.
FUNDS FROM THE CRA. GENERAL FUND REVENUE. IF PAID PARKING IS IMPLEMENTED IT'S ALLOWABLE. POTENTIALLY IF WE ARE ROLLING INTO A LARGER PROJECT WE WOULD REFINANCE INTO A LARGER BOND.
THE SECOND SITUATION OF PAID PARKING NOT IMPLEMENTED WE WOULD AGAIN HAVE THE STATE REIMBURSEMENTS; CREDIT RA FUNDS, GENERAL FUND REVENUE AND COULD REFINANCE TO A LONGER TERM AGREEMENT THAN THE THREE YEAR ITSELF WE NEED IT. WE ARE NOT
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PLEDGING ADD LOREM REVENUE TOWARD THIS. THIS WAS NOT VOTER APPROVED MILLAGE SO ITS LOOKING AT OUR OVERALL ABILITY TO PAY BASED ON ALL OF OUR AGAIN REVENUE. NEXT STEPS. IF THIS PASSES TONIGHT FROM THE COMMISSION WE WOULD HAVE OUR LOAN CLOSING LATER THIS WEEK. WITH THE INITIAL DRAW OF 109,000 THAT WOULD COVER THE CLOSING COSTS AND ONE OF THE REIMBURSEMENT PAYMENTS. WE WOULD CONTINUE TO HAVE THEM FOR THE DEMOLITION DESIGN WE WOULD COMPLETE THE DESIGN AND EXPECT TO RECEIVE THE STATE PERMITS. WE WOULD ISSUE THE RFP FOR THE DEMOLITION AND RECONSTRUCTION WORK. WE BELIEVE THAT WOULD BE ONE BID FOR THE TOTAL PACKAGE. RELOCATING THE FUEL TANKS.RELOCATING THE UTILITY LINES, THE DEMOLITION, RECONSTRUCTING THE SEAWALL AND RECONNECTING DOCK A. THE COMMISSION WOULD BE TASKED WITH AWARDING THE BID AND THEN WE WOULD PROCEED WITH DEMOLITION AND RECONSTRUCTION AND WE KNOW WE CANNOT DO THAT ANY SOONER THAN THE MIDDLE OF MAY OF NEXT YEAR BECAUSE OF THE EVENT THAT WE SUPPORT IN THE DOWNTOWN AREA. WE REALLY DON'T WANT TO BE IN DEMOLITION MODE WHILE THOSE EVENTS TAKE PLACE.
SO, I HAVE A DETAILED BREAK DOWN OF THE CLOSING COSTS AND OUR FIRST DRAW IF ANYONE IS INTERESTED IN THAT. BASED ON YOUR DIRECTION TO US PREVIOUSLY I RECOMMEND THAT THE CITY COMMISSION ADOPT THE PROPOSED RESOLUTION AND WE ARE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MIGHT HAVE.
>> THANK YOU. >> I JUST WANT TO THANK STAFF FOR THIS BECAUSE BACK IN JANUARY AT OUR VISION SESSION THIS SUBMISSION -- WE TOGETHER MADE THE DEMOLITION OUR NUMBER ONE PRIORITY AND, YOU KNOW, WE CANNOT HAVE IT ROTTING AT THE WATERFRONT T RISKS OUR -- RISKS OUR CITY WIDE INSURANCE IF WE HAVE A DRELICT BUILDING IT IS UNPLEASANT TO LOOK AT. THE FENCING AROUND THERE INTERFERES WITH THE WALKING AND ENJOYING THE RIVER. WE HAVE KNOWN FOR YEARS IT HAS TO BE DONE. I WANT TO THANK YOU ALL FOR FIGURING THE FINANCES OUT TO HELP US MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS. THEN JUST ONE THING I WANT TO SAY WHEN YOU SAID NINE FOOT WALL I THINK I HEARD GAS BECAUSE THAT --.
>> ELEVATION NINE FEET. >> ELEVATION NINE FEET.
>> SO CENTER STREET. IN FRONT OF THERE SITS AT SIX OR SEVEN FEET OF ELEVATION ALREADY. WE ARE TALKING ABOUT A -- WHAT WOULD LOOK LIKE A SMALL SITTING WALL LIKE WALL THAT IS ALREADY BUILT DOWN BY THE COURTS. THAT LITTLE SITTING WALL THAT RUNS ALL LONG THE RIVERFRONT. THAT'S THE SEAWALL. THAT'S A PORTION OF
THE FINISHED SEAWALL ITSELF. >> THANK YOU COMMISSIONER. I HAVE NO OTHER REQUESTS TO SPEAK FROM THE COMMISSION. DO I HAVE A
MOTION? >> I'LL MOVE TO APPROVE
RESOLUTION 2025-208. >> SECOND.
>> I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND I WOULD BE REMISS IF I DIDN'T
ACKNOWLEDGE OUR SPEAKER. >> MR. MAYOR. BEFORE YOU VOTE I
WOULD REQUEST TO SPEAK AS WELL. >> CERTAINLY.
>> JULIA. 051 DATE STREET. SO, I WASN'T PRESENT AT THE VISION SESSIONS. I WASN'T AT THE TOWN HALL IN JULY. I FEEL LIKE THAT I'M LATE TO THE PARTY.
I TEND TO THINK OUT OF THE BOX. IF YOU LOOK AT THIS -- IF YOU LOOK AT THIS SLIDE THERE'S A GREEN LINE THAT GOES THROUGH.
THE FRONT PART OF THAT IS I THINK THE STORE. I HAVE BEEN THINKING FOR A LONG TIME I DON'T KNOW -- TO ME IT LOOKS LIKE THAT THE STORE PART OF THE BUILDING IS ON SOLID GROUND.
I'M NOT SURE THAT'S TRUE. THERE MAY BE FEW PILINGS UNDERNEATH IT. I HAVE -- I MEAN I KNOW THAT IT'S PROBABLY DIFFICULT TO DO. I WAS THINKING THAT IF HE WITH COULD DIVIDE THATBUILDING IN HALF AND DO DEMOLITION ON THE BRETT SIDE OF IT AND KEEP THE STORES PART THAT'S ON SOLID GROUND THEN WE COULD BUILD A DECK OFF THAT. WE COULD -- WHEN YOU CUT THE BUILDING IN HALF THAT WE COULD PUT SLIDING DOORS OR GLASS ON AND THAT HAVE A MEETING SPACE. WHAT'S ALREADY THERE? RATHER THAN DEMOLITIONS EVERYTHING IT SEEMS LIKE I DON'T KNOW IF THE STORE IS IN THAT BAD OF CONDITION. WE KNOW THAT THE
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PYLINGS AND SO MUCH RUSTED STUFF BUT I DON'T KNOW THAT THE STORE PART IS IN BAD CONDITION AND IT SEEMS LIKE THAT WE COULD HAVE SOMETHING THAT COULD BE USEFUL FOR THE COMMUNITY AS A GATHERING SPOT RIGHT THERE ON THE DECK THAT'S GOING TO BE BUILT. SOY JUST WANTED TO THROW OUT THERE SINCE WE ARE TALK ABOUT THE RFP AND I EXCUSE -- THE FACT THAT I'M LATE TO THE PARTY BUT IT WAS JUST AN IDEA I WANTED TO MENTION. THANK YOU.>> THANK YOU. I DO HAVE OUR MOTION AND SECOND WITH NO ADDITIONAL REQUESTS TO SPEAK FROM THE AUDIENCE.
>> THANK YOU. I JUST WANTED TO ALSO ADD TO THE PRESENTATION THAT BOND COUNSEL WILL BE SIGNING OFF ON EACH DRAWING.
FORGIVE ME IF I'M MISS SPEAKING. THEY HAVE TO OPINE THAT THE DRAWS ARE BEING USED AS INDICATED HERE. THERE WERE SOME COMMENTS WE HAVE DISCLOSED ON LITIGATION WHEN THE DOCUMENTS ARE FINALIZES AND THE TESTS HAVE BEEN RERUN JUST TO MAKE SURE THAT -- WE DO HAVE THE COVERAGE FOR? THAT DOESN'T INCLUDE PAID PARKING FEES. I WANT TO PUT THOSE TWO ITEMS OPEN THE RECORD AND ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, BOND COUNSEL AND FINANCIAL ADVISOR ARE HERE BUT OTHERWISE THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU. >> ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTION FROM
THE COMMISSION? >> SEEING NONE WITH OUR MOTION AND SECOND. PLEASE START THE VOTE.
[Additional Item 1]
>> I BELIEVE WE HAVE -- 7.6 THE -- PAID PARKING AND HE WILL PASS -- A COPY OF THE RESOLUTION FOR YOU. I BELIEVE WE WILL PUT IT UP ON THE SCREEN IN A MINUTE. ADD IT LAST.
DEFEND AS NECESSARY IN THE MATTER OF PAID PARKING VERSES
THE CITY. >> WITH THAT I CAN TAKE ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE.
>> I WOULD MOVE TO APPROVE THE RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE DEFENSE OF LITIGATION.
>> I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.
[Additional Item 2]
>> THIS IS THE SECOND EMERGENCY RESOLUTION THAT YOU VOTED TO ADD TO THE AGENDA. THIS IS FOR THE SEIZURE OF A VEHICLE THAT WAS USED IN THE COMMISSION OF A FELONY. THIS WILL AUTHORIZE ME TO FILE AN ACTION NECESSARY TO SEIZE THE VEHICLE THAT WAS USED TO STRIKE AND INJURY A POLICE OFFICER. THIS -- I WILL HANDLE THIS MYSELF AT THIS POINT THERE WILL NOT BE ANY INSURANCE COUNSEL BECAUSE THIS IS A PROSECUTION OF AN ACTION AND I WILL NEED TO FILE SOMETHING BY THURSDAY WHICH IS WHY I ASKED YOU TO BLISS THIS ON AT AGAINA. LY HAVE TO FILE A MOTION FOR AN ORDER INDICATING THAT I HAVE PROBABLE CAUSE AND THAT THE POLICE DEPARTMENT HAS PROBABLE CAUSE TO RETAIN THE VEHICLE THE ACTION WE WILL TAKE INITIALLY ONCE YOU AUTHORIZE THIS.
>> THANK YOU. ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS FROM THE COMMISSION?
SEEING NONE DO I HAVE A MOTION? >> MOVE TO APPROVE.
>> SECOND. >> I HAVE IA MOTION AND A SECOND ANY DISCUSSION? SEEING NONE. PLEASE START THE VOTE.
[8.1 CODE AMENDMENT - CHAPTER 78 - PAID PARKING - ORDINANCE 2025-13 AMENDING THE CODE OF ORDINANCES BY AMENDING CHAPTER 78, TRAFFIC AND VEHICLES, ARTICLE Ill, STOPPING, STANDING AND PARKING BY AMENDING SECTION 78-90(B) SCHEDULE OF ADMINISTRATIVE FEES (FINES) FOR PARKING; BY AMENDING SECTION 78-91 ISSUANCE AND DISPOSITION OF CITATION; BY CREATING DIVISION 2 TO BE TITLED PAID PARKING; BY CREATING SECTION 78-100 PURPOSE; BY CREATING SECTION 78-101 DEFINITIONS; BY CREATING SECTION 78-102 CREATING A PARKING FUND; BY CREATING SECTION 78-103 IMPOSITION OF TIME LIMIT ON PARKING; CREATING SECTION 78-104 PAID PARKING AREA ESTABLISHED, AUTHORITY TO ESTABLISH PAID PARKING ZONES; CREATING SECTION 78-105 PAID PARKING FEES, PERMITS, HOURS AND EXEMPTIONS ESTABLISHED; CREATING SECTION 78-106 ENFORCEMENT AND AUTHORITY TO ENFORCE; AUTHORIZING ADMINISTRATIVE CORRECTION OF SCRIVENER'S ERRORS; PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY; AND PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE. Synopsis: Amends Chapter 78 of the City's municipal code to establish a paid parking program.]
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MOVE ALONG TO ITEM 8.1 ORDINANCES AND THE FIRST READING STARTING A CODE AMENDMENT FOR CHAPTER 78, PAID PARKING.>> THANK YOU MAYOR THIS IS CONSIDERATION OF ORDINANCE 2025-13 WHICH WOULD BE THE FIRST READING OF THEA DIAGNOSIS OF THE PAID PARKING PROGRAM.
THIS INCLUDES ALL THE CODE AMENDMENTS TO IMPLEMENT THE PROGRAM AS WE HAVE PREVIOUSLY DESCRIBED. AGAIN THIS IS YOUR FIRST OPPORTUNITY TO SEE IT IN WRITING SO WE ARE HAPPY TO GO THROUGH IT WITH YOU. ANY SECTIONS THAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO DISCUSS AND TYPICALLY MS. PRINCE DOES THE FIRST READING AND I BELIEVE SHE HASSIN HAS SOME INPUT.
>> I CAN READ THIS BY TITLE NOW TO START US OFF. ORDINANCE 202513. ORDINANCE OF THE CITY COMMISSION OF AMENDING THE CODE BY AMENDING PHOTOGRAPH SPECK VEHICLES ARTICLE 3, STOPPING [INAUDIBLE] AND PARKING BY AMENDING78-90B SCHEDULE OF ADMINISTRATIVE FEES, FINES, FOR PARKING. BY AMENDIND SECTION 7891 ISSUANCE AND DISPOSITION OF CITATION, BY CREATING DIVISION TWO TO BE TITLED PAID PARKING BY CREATING SECTION 78, 100 PURPOSE. BY CREATING SECTION 78101 DEFINITIONS. BY CREATING SECTION 78102 WHICH IS CREATING A PARKING FUND. BY CREATING SECTION 78103 IN POSSESSION OF TIME LIMIT ON PARKING, CREATING SECTION 78104 PAID PARKING AREA ESTABLISHED. AUTHORITY TO ESTABLISH PAID PARKING ZONES. CREATING SECTION 78105 PAID PARKING FEES PERMITS, HOURS, AND EXEMPTIONS ESTABLISHED. CREATING SECTION 78106 ENFORCEMENT AND AUTHORITY TO ENFORCE.
AUTHORIZING ADMINISTRATIVE CORRECTIONS, PROVIDING FOR --
PROVIDING FOR EFFECTIVE DATE. >> THANK YOU. ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS ON THIS ITEM? SEEING NONE DO I HAVE A MOTION?
>> WAIT. WAIT. WAIT. >> THIS IS --. I DO HAVE A FEW COMMENTS IF YOU WOULD LIKE ME TO MAKE THEM NOW.
>> I WILL LET YOU WRAP US UP. >> ACTUALLY I HAVE A LOT. I GUESS I'LL START WITH THE MOST IMPORTANT ONE ON PAGE 4 IF YOU ALL WANT TO SCROLL DOWN TO THAT ONE SO WE CAN TALK ABOUT THIS. I TALKED ABOUT THIS WITH STAFF. THE TOP OF PAGE 4. THE DEFINITION OF HOUSEHOLD AND HOW WE DETERMINE THAT RESIDENTS GET -- WHO -- THE RESIDENTS THAT GET A FREE PASS. THAT WE CHANGED SOME OF THIS WORDING. IT SAYS HOUSEHOLD IS -- THE VEHICLE BEING COUNTED TOWARD THAT HOUSEHOLD IS REGISTERED AT THE STRESS OF THAT HOUSEHOLD. I DON'T THINK THAT WILL WORK WITH A LOT OF OUR SNOW BIRDS WHO MAY HAVE A CAR REGISTERED IN, YOU KNOW, MICHIGAN. I KNOW MILITARY SERVICE MEMBERS HAVE -- NO BUT THEY -- SOME OF THEM ARE. I ACTUALLY CONTACTED TWO FRIENDS WHO ARE RESIDENTS. THEY HAVE A HOME HERE. THEY ARE RESIDENTS.
THEY PAY TAXES ON THEIR HOME BUT THEIR CAR IS REGISTERED IN MICHIGAN OR BOSTON. ACTIVE DUTY MILITARY PEOPLE ARE -- MY CAR WAS NEVER REGISTERED WHERE I WAS LIVING. IT WAS ALWAYS YEARS BEHIND BECAUSE WE DIDN'T HAVE TO REREGISTER UNTIL OUR OLD ONE EXPIRED. SO, YOU HAD WORDING MAYBE THAT WOULD BE -- THAT
WOULD BE BETTER. >> I THINK WE COULD SAY THAT THE -- YEAH. REGISTERED IN THE NAME OF THE PROPERTY OWNER. HAD
IN THE NAME OF THE OWNER OF THE PROPERTY IN QUESTION.
SO THAT YOU'RE TYING THE VEHICLE TO THE PERSON, NOT TYING TO THE
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>> AND WHAT WE CAN DO IF I MAY MR. MAYOR IS -- [INAUDIBLE] WE CAN LIST TONE YOUR COMMENTS THIS EVENING AND THEN BRING SOME PROPOSALS BACK. I THINK WHAT WILL HAPPEN BASED ON LIKE SO OF THE THINGS YOU HAVE RACED ME COMMISSIONER SEPARATELY IS WE WILL TALK ABOUT IN THIS EVENING.
THIS IS YOUR FIRST OPPORTUNITY TO TALK IT IS IT ON THE FIVE OF YOU AND INSTEAD OF TRYING TO CRAFT SPECIFIC LANGUAGE THAT YOU WOULD APPROVE TONIGHT YOU WOULD JUST CHARGE US TO GO FORWARD, MAKING AMENDMENTS, SO TONIGHT I WOULD EXPECT THAT YOU WILL HAVE A LOT OF COMMENTS AND I HAVE A FEW CHANGES THAT I THOUGHT OF AND SO IF IT TURNS OUT WE ARE GOING TO MAKE CHANGES LIKE WE BROUGHT UP ONE IN HOUSEHOLD IT WOULD REQUIRE ANOTHER READING SO I WOULD SUGGEST LOOKING AT THAT, LISTEN TO YOUR QUESTIONS, CONCERNS WE CAN GO BACK AND UPDATE IT AND THEN EXPECT TO BRING IT BACK FOR FIRST READING. THAT GIVES US TIME TO HIT AGENDA DEADLINES AND REPUBLISH. WE WOULD -- I THINK THAT DISCUSSING TONIGHT IS VERY IMPORTANT SO WE CAN QUIET FEEDBACK -- BUT I DON'T KNOW THE LANGUAGE WILL BE SPECIFIC. WE UNDERSTAND THE QUESTION. WE CAN PROPOSE SOLUTIONS AND THEN GO BACK AND TWEAK AND BRING IT BACK TO YOU DECEMBER 2ND.
>> THANK YOU. >> YEAH. MY NEXT THING WE TALKED ABOUT WAS ADDING A DEFINITION FOR LOW SPEED VEHICLES OR GOLF CARTS. AND SO THAT'S ALSO WOULD GO ON PAGE FOUR IN THE DEFINITION BUT PAGE EIGHT I THINK IT WAS JEREMIAH WHO NOTICED THAT'S -- THERE IS -- THE WORD GOLF CART IS IN THERE AND WOULD NEED TO BE CHANGED TO WILL NOT LSV RIGHT? LET'S SEE. A LOT OF THIS IS NOT -- I DO HAVE ONE QUESTION. THIS IS PROBABLY A ONE PARKING QUESTION. BACK UP ON PAGE 2 -- THE CITATION. TALKING ABOUT IF THAT CITATION BE PLACED ON -- SAYS THE OFFICE -- THE OFFICER WILL ISSUE A CITATION AND PLACE A NOTICE IN A -- PLACE ON THE VEHICLE I THOUGHT ONE PARKING HAD TALKED ABOUT DIGITAL CITATIONS AND NOT PAPER.
>> ONE THING THAT WE FAILED TO POINT OUT IF YOU WITH YOU WOULD SCROLL UP TO THE TOP, THIS WOULD HELP. OKAY. THIS VERY FIRST PART OF THE ORDINANCE, SECTION 78-90 IS ACTUALLY THE POLICE DEPARTMENT'S SECTION OF ENFORCEMENT. OKAY? WHAT YOU JUST BROUGHT FORWARD IS QUESTIONS ABOUT THE POLICE DEPARTMENT'S SECTION ON ENFORCEMENT ABOUT WHAT THE POLICE OFFICERS DO. WHY WE DID THAT IS IF YOU -- THE FIRST INDICATION ON PAGE ONE.
THE CHIEF OF POLICE HAD A TEN DAY PERIOD FOR REPAYMENT AND YOU COULD STAY WHERE YOU WERE. THERE'S -- THAT'S GOOD TOO. IF YOU SCROLL BACK UP A LITTLE BIT. IT'S HARD TORE SEE. SEE -- PAY THE FUND. IT USED TO SAITO TEN DAYS. WHEN YOU GO IN TO THE PAID PARKING WE WILL GIVE THEM 15 DAYS TO PAY THE CITATION WE ARE LINING IT UP WITH WHAT'S GOING TO BE IN THE PAID PARKING SECTION WHEN YOU GO DOWN SOME THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR DOING THIS. WE ARE ALSO JUST COORDINATING AGAIN THE 15 DAYS.
SO IN THIS SECTION COMMISSIONER, THIS IS THE POLICE DEPARTMENT ISSUING A CITATION. OKAY? IT'S IN THE BACK OF THE ORDINANCE WHEN WE GET INTO THE PAID PARKING ENFORCEMENT THAT YOU WILL SEE THE OTHER TYPE OF CITATION. THOUGH THEY MAY STILL PUT OWN ON THE WINDSHIELD WHEN WHAT FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND.
>> IF IT'S NOT UNDER LINED IT'S CURRENT. IT'S EXISTING. I HAD SOME QUESTIONS TOO WHICH WE HANDLED OFF LINE. IF IT'S NOT UNDER LINED IT'S WHAT IS THERE TODAY. THEY DIDN'T MAKE ANY YECHYS ON WHAT'S THERE TODAY BUT WHAT THEY HAD TO LINK UP
TIME FRAMES AND AMOUNTS. >> OKAY.
>> AND WE HAD A CONFERENCE CALL WITH THE CHIEF OF POLICE TOMA I CAN SURE HE WAS COMFORTABLE WITH THE -- AND HE WITH ALSO WHEN YOU QUIET BACK INTO THE ENFORCEMENT SECTION AT THE END OF THE ORDINANCE. WE WENT THROUGH EVERY ITEM THAT THE PAID PARKING ATTENDANT WAS GOING TO BE ALLOWED TO ENFORCE APPROXIMATE HAD THE CHIEF SIGN OFF ON IT AND GIVE HIS COMFORT LEVEL OF THEM ISSUING THE PAID PARKING ATTENDANT ISSUING A CITATION.
YOU WILL -- AT THE END OF THE ORDINANCE AS TO WHAT THE
ATTENDANT CAN DO. >> THANK YOU.
>> I CAN -- I CAN YIELD NOW. >> THANK YOU. I HAVE NO OTHER REQUESTS TO SPEAK FROM THE COMMISSION.
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>> I ALREADY GAVE ALL MY COMMENTS DIRECTLY AND THEY ARE
-- >> ONE OTHER COMMENT. SORRY.
>> I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE ONE OTHER COMMENT TO THE PUBLIC. I KNOW A LOT OF PEOPLE OVER THE LAST 11 MONTHS AS WE HAVE BEEN TALKING ABOUT THIS HAVE PRESSED FOR MORE SPECIFIC ANSWERS AND ONE OF THE REASONS WE COULDN'T DIFFERENT IT IS BECAUSE OF SOMETHING LIKE THIS. THIS IS A 15 PAGE DOCUMENT WITH SOME INCREDIBLY DETAILED ITEMS THAT HAVE TO BE BROUGHT BEFORE US THAT WE HAVE TO DISCUSS AND IT WASN'T POSSIBLE WHEN TALKING TO PEOPLE OR EMAILING PEOPLE FOR ME TO SAY HOW EXACTLY IT MIGHT BE IMPLEMENTED. I WOULD -- ACTUALLY REALLY INVITE THE PUBLIC TO HELP US IF YOU FEEL SO MOVED THAT -- THIS IS A VERY BIG COMPLEX DOCUMENT AND I WOULD -- I WOULD PERSONALLY WELCOME EMAILS IF ANYONE THOUGHT THEY SAW SOMETHING THAT HE WE COULD MAKE
>> DEPENDING ON THE COMMISSION'S ACTIONS ON THIS WE -- ONE OF THE THINGS WE HAVE BEEN TALKING ABOUT IS COMMUNICATION AND HOW TO DESCRIBE SOME OF THESE -- VERY DETAILED THINGS. I'M OPEN TO YOUR INPUT ON WHETHER YOU WOULD RECOMMEND WE JUST CREATE A DOCUMENT THAT LIVES ON THE CITY'S PARKING WEB PAGE OR IF IT'S -- A VIDEO OR A -- LONG FORM INTERVIEW WITH A MEDIA OUTLET WE ARE OPEN TO COMMUNICATING ALL OF THESE DETAILS IN THE BEST WAY POSSIBLE BUT SOCIAL IMMEDIATE WHY DOESN'T SEEM TO BE THE BEST WAY BUT I'M HOPE TO INPUT ON WHAT YOU DO THINK THE BEST WAY IS.
>> COMMISSIONER, YOU HAVE THE FLOOR.
>> I'M AN ADVOCATE TO. I GET THE INFORMATION OUT INSTEAD OF THE MISINFORMATION THAT CONTINUES TO CIRCULATE. I HAVE BEEN A PROPONENT OF HAVING THE CITY HAVE A DEDICATED PAGE ON THE WEBSITE AND ALSO TO SEND THAT OUT IN OUR OUTREACH WHERE WE HAVE OUR CITY OUTREACH NEWS LETTER, NEWS LEADER. TO HAVE A LIVING DOCUMENT ON THERE SHOWING WHY WE ARE DOING THIS AND THE REASON WHY WE ARE DOING THIS AND HOW THIS WORKS AND I THINK THERE'S BEEN SO MUCH MISINFORMATION AT LEAST FROM THE PEOPLE I HAVE SPOKEN TO WHEN YOU ARE EXPLAINING WHAT WE ARE DOING THEY ARE LIKE THAT MAKES SENSE. SO, I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE DO THAT AND WE -- I WOULD ENCOURAGE MY FELLOW COMMISSIONERS TO AGREE WITH THAT -- LET'S GET THIS INFORMATION
>> YEAH. TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, I WOULD SAY ALL OF THE ABOVE. I WOULD SAY AS MANY DIFFERENT FORMS OF COMMUNICATION AS POSSIBLE THE BETTER. TO INCLUDE SEEING IF CLUBS WILL INVITE STAFF TO COME SPEAK OR REACH OUT TO EDUCATE.
I WAS EVEN THINKING ABOUT A NOTIFICATION IN UTILITY BILL BECAUSE I WAS THINKING SOME OF -- A LOT OF REALLY SAAVY DIGITAL USERS HAVE SWITCHED THEIR UTILITY BILL TO ONLINE OR AUTO PAY BUT MANY PEOPLE WHO AREN'T COMFORTABLE WITH DIGITAL THINGS STILL GET THEIR PAPER, YOU KNOW, OR LIKE ME FOR A LONG TIME JUST DIDN'T BOTHER CHANGING IT. AND, THOSE ARE THE VERY USERS WHO MAY BE THE MOST AFRAID. I -- I BELIEVE -- I BELIEVE THE PAID PARKING SIGNS GOING TO HAVE A THREE -- THREE METHODS OF PAYMENT. CORRECT? YOU COULD CONSIDER WITH A SMART PHONE YOU CAN SCAN A QR CODE OR YOU CAN -- WITH ANY PHONE YOU CAN TEXT TO PAY OR YOU CAN CALL A CUSTOMER SERVICE AND PAY OVER THE PHONE.
STILL I THINK -- MANY USERS, YOU KNOW AREN'T COMFORTABLE WITH THAT AND ESPECIALLY WE ARE -- WHEN IF THIS IS IMPLEMENTED IN A FEW MONTHS WE WILL NEED 10,000 RESIDENTS TO GO ONLINE AND -- BEFORE WE CAN COME AND PARK ANYWHERE FOR FREE.
>> IF I MAY BEFORE YOU VOTE ON IT I WOULD LIKE TO TAKE YOU THROUGH IT AND JUST POINT OUT SOME OF THE HIGHLIGHTS TO GET SOME OF THAT INFORMATION OUT ONCE ARE YOU DONE DISCUSSING, YOU KNOW JUST SO WE CAN TAKE YOU THROUGH AND HIT A FEW HIGHLIGHTS
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>> AT THE MOMENT. >> NOTHING. THEY WERE SAYING IT'LL BE DONE AT THE NEXT FIRST LEADING.
>> YOU WOULD RATHER DO THAT AT THE NEXT FIRST READING. OKAY. I
DON'T MIND DOING THAT. >> THE MORE THE BETTER.
>> I AGREE. IF ONE OF THOSE ALL -- ALL OF THE ABOVE KIND OF THINGS. ONE OF THE THINGS I PROVIDED YOU ACTUALLY -- TOLD ME WHEN SHE WAS IN CALGARY THIS PAST SUMMER ABOUT HOW THEY WERE DOING PAID PARKING AND I WENT AND LOOKED AT THEIR WEBSITE.
THEY HAD A REALLY GREAT BOOK LIT WHICH I THINK IFORWARDED YOU THAT DOES EXACTLY WHAT COMMISSIONER POINTER TALKS ABOUT. IT TALKS ABOUT WHY THEY DO PAID PARKING. WITH WHERE THE MONEY GOES AND IT'S ON THE WEBSITE. PARKING 1 WILL HAVE A WEBSITE THAT WILL LINK TO SO, YEAH, I THINK WE DO SO. I THINK WE DO WEBSITE STUFF. WE DO SOCIAL MEDIA. WE DO INTERVIEWS.
YOU KNOW WE MAY WANT TO THINK ABOUT FOR A -- A VERY SPECIFIC AMOUNT OF TIME TALKING TO COMMUNICATIONS MANAGEMENT CONTRACTOR COME IN AND HELP US PUT TOGETHER A PLAN THAT THEN THE STAFF CAN IMPLEMENT. I MEAN I THINK THAT ALL OF THOSE ARE GOING TO BE NECESSARY. I THIS WE NEED TO THINK ABOUT DOING A SPEAKER'S BUREAU. I'M MORE THAN HAPPY TO GO OUT AND TALK ABOUT IT. YOU KNOW WE CAN'T -- WE CAN'T NOT COMMUNICATE ENOUGH WHAT I WOULD SAY. ALL OF THE ABOVE TIMES TEN.
>> THANK YOU. VICE MAYOR. >> I MEAN DO WE NOT REMEMBER THE -- THE VIDEO THAT WE PUT OUT WHEN THIS FIRST STARTED START? IT WAS A DISASTER. IT JUST GOT DESTROYED ONLINE. I MEAN -- PUT OUT ALL THE INFORMATION YOU WANT. THE RESULTS BAKED IN ON THIS THING. I MEAN IT -- IT IS. YOU ARE NOT CONVINCING ANYONE ELSE THAT THEY WANT PAID PARKING AND THAT THIS IS GOING TO BE SOMETHING THAT THEY LIKE. IT'S -- IT'S JUST NOT GOING TO HAPPEN. SAME THING WITH PEOPLE WHO WANT PAID PARKING. YOU AREN 'T GOING TO CONVINCE THEM. PUT OUT ALL THE INFORMATION YOU WANT THE RESULTS ALREADY BAKED IN. WE ARE JUST WAITING TO SEE WHAT HAPPENS AT THE END OF IT. TRY AS YOU MAY TO CONVINCE PEOPLE IT'S -- THIS -- THIS TRAIN HAS LEFT THE STATION.
>> I WILL RESPECTFULLY DISAGREE. I HAVE PROBABLY -- I HAVE EMAILED SO MANY PEOPLE. I GOT SHUT DOWN BY IT BECAUSE I WAS MARKED BY SPAM BY YAHOO AND AOL. I HAVE HAD COFFEE OR GONE FOR A WALK WITH SCORES -- I'M ACTUALLY APPROACHING 50 MEETINGS THAT I HAVE HAD WITH PEOPLE. A LOT OF PEOPLE WHEN THEY UNDERSTAND THAT -- THAT THEY WILL GET FREE PARKING AND THIS MONEY WILL BE LOCK BOXED TO PROTECT THE DOWNTOWN AND THESE THREE PROJECTS THEY STILL DON'T LOVE IT. LIKE ME I STILL DON'T LOVE T IT'S NOT GREAT. IT'S -- IT'S -- IT'S SORT OF IN MY OPINION THE LEAST BAD CHOICE BUT THEY UNDERSTAND THE NEED OF IT. I DO ACTUALLY THINK EDUCATION WORKS. I THINK THAT WE NEED TO -- I THINK WE HAVE FAILED A LITTLE BIT IN EDUCATION AND IT'S -- ITS BEEN DIFFICULT. I THINK -- THE MORE WE CAN DO THE BETTER.
>> YEAH. I MEAN THE SENSE THAT WE FAILED -- IN ONE WAY YOU'RE CORRECT AND THE OTHER WAY IT'S HARD TO EXPLAIN WHAT WE ARE GOING TO DO WHEN WE HAVEN'T DECIDED WHAT WE ARE GOING TO DO.
WITHOUT THE DETAILS THAT -- THAT WE ARE UP HERE HAVING TO DISCUSS IN PUBLIC AMONG OURSELVES BECAUSE I'M NOT DISCUSSING WITH YOU OFF LINE SO I DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU'RE THINKING I DON'T KNOW -- SO -- THERE WAS ALWAYS FOR ME WHEN I DISCUSSED PEOPLE -- WITH PEOPLE AND I DIS-- A LOT OF PEOPLE CHANGE THEIR MINDS WHEN THEY HEAR THE FACTS. WHEN THEY END UP -- WHEN YOU END UP BEING ABLE TO TALK TO THEM IT'S LIKE NOW WE WILL BE ABLE TO HAVE A MORE DIRECT ABILITY TO SAY THIS IS WHAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT. THIS IS THE EXACTLY WHAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT BEFORE IT WAS OUTRAGEOUS. HERE TO HERE, MAYBE THIS HOUR, MAYBE THIS
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HOUR, MAYBE FREE, NOT FREE, AND HOW ABOUT THAT ALL WORKS. WE HAVE CONTINUED TO MAKE CHANGES ON THIS NOW WE ARE AT THE FINAL POINT WHERE WE WILL BE ABLE TO SAY TO THE COMMUNITY THIS IS THE PLAN AND THIS IS WHEN WE ARE HOPING TO GET THIS THING LAUNCHED AND ONE OTHER POINT THAT I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE. WE DON'T HAVE SPECIFICS -- WE DON'T HAVE A CRYSTAL BALL. WE DON'T KNOW EXACTLY HOW MUCH MONEY AND WHEN PEOPLE KEEP SAYING WE DIDN'T DO ENOUGH ANALYZING, ENOUGH THIS OR THAT.I MEAN AT SOME POINT HAVE YOU TO TRY IT. WHEN SOMEONE SAYS WHAT HAPPENS WHEN YOU ONLY RAISED ONE AND A HALF MILLION DOLLARS INSTEAD OF THE TWO YOU WERE GOING FOR? IT'S A MILLION AND A HALF -- MORE DOLLARS THAN WE HAD WHEN WE STARTED AND IT'LL GO TOWARD THE INFRASTRUCTURE OF THE DOWNTOWN AND SEAWALL. THAT'S WHAT WE ARE TRYING TO DO. THIS ISN'T ABOUT RAISING MONEY TO -- BUY ANOTHER POLICE OFFICER OR ANOTHER FIREMAN. THIS IS ABOUT LOCK BOXING OUR MONEY TO FIX THE DOWNTOWN AND TO FIX THE WATERFRONT. THAT'S WHAT THIS IS FOR. NOTHING MORE.
>> THANK YOU. NO OTHER COMMISSIONER COMMENTS I HAVE ONE REQUEST TO SPEAK FROM THE AUDIENCE. MR. PAUL LORI.
>> I DID PUT IN A REQUEST. [INAUDIBLE].
CERTAINLY. >> GOOD EVENING. 11 SOUTH 7 STREET I HAVE ONE MORE MEETING TO ATTEND BEFORE I GO TO THE OCEAN AND I'M KIND OF SOMETIMES FEEL LIKE I WANT TO BE IN THE OWEN WITH 30-FOOT WAVES.
WHEN I HEAR ABOUT FACTS AND LIES AND DECEPTION AND I'LL ADDRESS SOME OF -- OBSERVATIONS. THIS EVENING. I WILL WAIT UNTIL THE NEXT MEETING. FOR NOW I WANT TO JUST REALLY MAKE IT CLEAR, VERY CLEAR THAT THE ORDINANCE THAT WAS DRIVEN.
IF YOU HAVE A MANDATE AND PEOPLE VOTE FOR PAID PARKING THIS WOULD HAVE BEEN VERY SIMPLE. ALL THIS TENSION YOU HEAR IN THE AUDIENCE. YOU KNOW YOU TALK ABOUT INCITING AND SPARKING PEOPLE. YOU KNOW THERE MIGHT HAVE BEEN A LITTLE BIT OF THAT CONTRIBUTED HERE. IT SEEMS LIKE WHEN FACEBOOK SUITS THE CITY THAT'S THE TRUTH BUT WHEN IT'S FACEBOOK FOR THE PUBLIC IT'S NOT THE TRUTH. REALLY THE CITIZENS -- I DON'T WANT THIS TO GET CONFUSED IT GETS TANGLED WITH MANY DIFFERENT PEOPLE AND AGENDAS. I WILL NOT ALLOW THAT.
THE MAYOR AND HIS LAST MEETING WAS VERY END SAID I QUESTION SOME PEOPLE IF THEY DON'T COME IN AND BE A COMMISSIONER ABOUT DECISIONS BUT REALLY SOMETIMES YOU DON'T HAVE TO COME IN AND BE A COMMISSIONER TO MAKE A DECISION AND TO SERVE A CERTAIN DIRECTION FOR THE CITY. IF -- IF 3,000 PEOPLE OUT OF 4,000 PEOPLE AND I HAVE SAID THIS SINCE THE VERY BEGINNING. IF 3,000 VOTERS OF THIS CITY SAID.
WE ARE JUST DISAGREE THAT IT MAY BE THE RIGHT REVENUE. STREAM TO DO IT. REALLY IF 3,000 PEOPLE SAY THEY WANT PAID PARKING.
YOU GOT YOUR MANDATE. THANK YOU. NEXT UP MR. KENNELLY.
>> THANK YOU MR. MAYOR. ROGERS TOURS, 1301 RIVER PLACE BOULEVARD. JACKSONVILLE, 32207. MS. PRINCE MENTIONED SHE WILL WORK TO ADDRESS SOME OF THE ISSUES IN THE ORDINANCE FOR
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DECEMBER 2ND I WOULD ASK TO SUBMISSIONER ABOUT WELCOMING PUBLIC FEEDBACK. I WOULD ASK SOMEONE ON THE COMMISSION, PERHAPS YOU TO DIRECT THE ATTORNEYS TO ANALYZE AND ADDRESS TO THE EXTENT THEY CAN THE ISSUES THAT WERE RAISED IN THE LAWSUIT. LIKE I SAID IN THE BEGINNING THE POINT WAS TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU GUYS ARE CONSIDERING ALL THE FACTORS.THERE'S VARIOUS FEDERAL AND STATE LAWS THAT ARE POTENTIALLY VIOLATED BY THE CURRENT PLAN. DISN 'T MEAN THAT SOME PLAN WON'T VIOLATE IT BUT IT'S IMPORTANT FOR YOUR ATTORNEYS TO TELL YOU THAT THE ORDINANCE YOU HAVE HAS A -- DOESN'T HAVE A CHANCE OF VIOLATING THOSE STATE AND FEDERAL STATUTES AND I THINK THAT YOU ARE CAPABLE ATTORNEYS THAT CAN ADVISE YOU AND -- YOU SHOULD GIVE THEM THE TIME SO THAT YOU HAVE A -- A GOOD BASIS
IF YOU CHOOSE. THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU.
>> AND NEXT WE HAVE MARIANNNE PHILLIPS.
>> MARINNE PHILLIPS. I HAVE SAT BACK HERE AND I HAVE TRIED TO KEEP MY MOUTH SHUT BUT I WILL TELL YOU SOMETHING. YOU ALL -- I WORK FOR THE SCHOOL BOARD. THE LARGEST EMPLOYER HERE IN THE COUNTY. WHEN WE ARE TO CUT OUR BUDGET WE CUT OUR BUDGET. AIN'T NONE OF YOU SAID NOTHING ABOUT CUTTING THE CITY BUDGET. I FOUND OUT THAT CODE ENFORCEMENT MAKES 270,000 SOMETHING DOLLARS A YEAR FOR FOUR PEOPLE. TWO JETS MAKING $64,000 A YEAR. I HAVE BEEN AT THIS DISTRICT FOR 26 YEARS AND I ONLY MAKE 40, 44 BECAUSE IT'S PUBLIC RECORD. SO, THEY PROBABLY HAVEN'T BEEN WORKING HERE THAT LONG. THEN YOUR HIGHER POSITIONS MAKE THE REST OF THAT MONEY.
THAT'S JUST A TIP OF THE ICEBERG. YOU KEEP HIRING PEOPLE FOR DIFFERENT JOBS IN THIS CITY BUT YOU'RE NOT CUTTING BUT YOU WANT TO PUT THE PROPAGANDA OUT THERE THAT THIS CITY NEEDS MONEY FOR INFRASTRUCTURE. IT'S BECAUSE NOTHING IS BEING TAKEN CARE OF ON A REGULAR BASIS. HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE INFRASTRUCTURE. THERE'S THINGS THAT SHOULD HAVE BEEN DONE THAT HAVEN'T BEEN DONE PAINTING, STUFF LIKE THAT. FIXING SIDEWALKS. YOU EVER BEEN TO SAVANNAH? NOBODY IS GOING TO WALK AROUND IN HIGH HEELS ON THE BRICK STREETS YOU CAN HAND THIS STUFF OUT YOU WANT YOU FOUR PEOPLE HERE THAT WANT THIS PAID PARKING. I'M TEMPERATURING YOU THE MAJORITY OF THE CITIZENS DON'T WANT PAID PARKING. PERIOD. I AM SICK AND TIRED OF HEARING IT. TONIGHT I HOPE THAT YOU ALL HEAR THIS. I DON'T KNOW WHY YOU DON'T HEAR YOU JUST HEARD AN ATTORNEY TELL YOU ABOUT LEGAL. OF THINGS YOU MAY BE VIOLATING AND YOU -- ACT LIKE YOU GOT COT UNIN YOUR EARS. COULD YOU ALL PLEASE JUST
LISTEN? >> THANK YOU. I HAVE NO OTHER REQUESTS TO SPEAK. IS THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM THE COMMISSION? AND JUST AS A POINT OF ORDER WE -- WE DISCUSSED THAT THIS WOULD BE NOT VOTED ON AND MOVED TO THE DECEMBER 2 MEETING.
>> RIGHT. >> YOU WANT A MOTION?
>> YEAH. > TO CONTINUE? >> WE CAN MOVE TO CONTINUE IT TO DECEMBER 2ND IF WE DID THAT MEANS THE FIRST DATE THAT WE COULD ACTUALLY ENACT WOULD BE JANUARY 6TH. YEAH. THAT JUST TO GIVE SOME UNDERSTANDING OF THE TIMELINE AND, YES, AND WE WILL BRING IT BACK ON DECEMBER 2ND AS LONG AS I HAVE HAD TIME TO MAKE ANY REVISION THAT HAVE SUGGESTED OR THAT WE FEEL IS NEEDED TO THE ORDINANCE YOU CAN -- CONTINUE IT TO DECEMBER 2ND.
>> THANK YOU. >> DO I HAVE A MOTION?
>> TO DECEMBER 2ND? >> I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. ANY ADDITIONAL DISCUSSION?
>> SEEING NONE. PLEASE START THE VOTE.
>> THIS IS MOVED TO CONTINUE. >> YES.
[8.2 MASTER FEE SCHEDULE AMENDMENT - ORDINANCE 2025-14 AMENDING THE MASTER FEE SCHEDULE ESTABLISHED BY ORDINANCE 2025-09 BY AMENDING THE CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE FEE SCHEDULE TO PROVIDE FOR PAID PARKING FEES WITHIN THE PAID PARKING AREA IN FY 2025/2026; AUTHORIZING ADMINISTRATIVE CORRECTION OF SCRIVENER'S ERRORS; PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY; AND PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE. Synopsis: Amends the Master Fee Schedule established by Ordinance 2025-09 to provide for paid parking fees.]
THAT PASSES 5-0. IS THAT ALSO A SUBJECT TO MOTION TO CONTINUE?>> YES IT IS BUT WE SHOULD -- IF YOU WANT TO TALK ABOUT THE FEES OR ANYTHING WE CONTINUE IT YOU CAN DO THAT. IT IS ON YOUR AUGEND A I CAN READ IT AND YOU CAN DISCUSS IT OR JUST MOVE TO CONTINUE.
WHY DO WE NEED TO CONTINUE? >> THIS ONE I DON'T THINK THAT -- I THINK THAT -- ON THE FEES SCHEDULE SO JUST -- SO THE -- PUBLIC KNOWS WHAT WE ARE TALKS ABOUT. 202514, THE MASTER FEE SCHEDULE ESTABLISHED BY ORDINANCE 202509 BY THE CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE -- THE CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE FEE SCHEDULE TO PROVIDE FOR PAID PARKING FEE WAS IN THE AREA IN FISCAL YEAR
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2025, 26, AUTHORIZING ADMINISTRATIVE CORRECTION.PROVIDING FOR -- PROVIDING FOR EFFECTIVE DATE TO SUBPOENA TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, COMMISSIONER POINTER THERE COULD BE CHANGES THAT WE MAKE DEPENDING ON ANY I CHAS WE MAKE TO THE ORDINANCE SO I THINK WE SHOULD KEEP THESE IN TANDEM THAT'S JUST TO KEEP THEM -- ADOPTED AT THE SAME TIME. I WOULD MOVE THEM TO THE DECEMBER 2ND DATE AND IF MS. CAMPBELL WANTS TO REVIEW IT WE CAN DO THAT.
>> THANK YOU. DO I HAVE A MOTION?
>> I WOULD -- I WOULD MOVE TO CONTINUE THE MASTER FEE SCHEDULE
AMENDMENT TO DECEMBER 2ND. >> I HAVE A MOTION. DO I HAVE A
SECOND? >> ANY COMMISSIONER DISCUSSION?
>> I JUST HAVE ONE QUESTION. >> COMMISSIONER.
>> WHERE IN -- I SEE IT'S NOT IN THIS FEE SCHEDULE. WHERE IN THE ORDINANCE -- I CAN FIND THIS OUT LATER DOES IT SAY THAT THERE IS A LIMIT OF FOUR TOTAL, TWO TREE AND TWO ADDITION? IT
DOESN'T? >> I WAS MISUNDERSTANDING YOU. I THOUGHT YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT THE HOURS FOR FREE. IT'LL BE TWO VEHICLES PER HOUSEHOLD. THE WAY WE WENT -- THE WAY WE COULD FIND A RESIDENT IS A PROPERTY OWNER.
YOU CAN BE A COMMERCIAL PROPERTY OWNER A RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY OWNER.
THEY CAN GET TWO PERMITS FOR FREE AND THEN THEY CAN GET AS MANY PERMITS FOR THEIR HOUSEHOLD AS THEY WANT FOR $24 PER PERMIT.
>> OKAY. >> THEN YOU HAVE THE IN AREA RESIDENCE THAT -- AND LIVE HERE ALL THE TIME THEY GET TWO FROM BUT THAT GIVES THEM PARKING ALL DAY WHEREAS THE RESIDENT PERMIT GETS YOU FOUR HOURS FREE AND THAT'S IN THE ORDINANCE. THE FIRST ORDINANCE WE DIDN'T REALLY GO THROUGH YOU ALSO IN THE ORDINANCE THAT HE WITH HAVE ALREADY CONTINUED YOU GET A 20 MINUTE FREE. IF YOU DON'T HAVE A PERMIT YOU CAN PULL UP FOR 20 MINUTES YOU CAN GET OUT. YOU CAN ALSO AND THIS -- THE FEE SCHEDULE IS WHERE WE TALK ABOUT HOW MUCH EVERYTHING WILL COST BUT AFTER YOU GET YOUR FREE PERMITS YOU CAN BUY AS MANY AS
YOU WANT THE WAY IT'S DRAFTED. >> OKAY. THANK YOU. APPRECIATE
>> FOR THE PUBLIC'S CLARITY WE HAD A WORKSHOP IN OCTOBER ON
PAID PARKING. CORRECT? >> I DON'T RECALL THE DATE.
>> IT WAS THE FIRST ONE. THAT'S WHEN WE TALKED ABOUT THEY WERE GOING TO GET ONE PASS. IT WAS KIND OF DECIDED YEAH THAT'S HOW WE ARE GOING TO DO IT. WE WERE GOING TO DO $2 AN HOUR. WHEN DID THAT CHANGE? WHEN DID WE HAVE A MEETING IN THE PUBLIC IN THE SUNSHINE THAT WE WENT TO THIS PLAN? I MEAN MAYBE I WASN'T PAYING ATTENTION. MAYBE I JUST HAD SPACED OUT BUT I JUST NEED TO KNOW AFTER WE TALKED ABOUT IT DURING THE WORKSHOP THAT WE WERE ONLY GOING TO HAVE ONE PERMIT NOW WE HAVE TWO. I JUST -- US I MISSED THAT POINT. I MISS THINGS ALL THE TIME. I NEED TO KNOW WHEN WE HELD THAT PUBLIC WORKSHOP WE MADE THE POSITION ON HOW WE WERE GOING TO IMPLEMENT THE -- GIVEN STAFF DIRECTION WHAT WE WANT TO DO. I NEED TO KNOW WHEN THAT MEETING WAS HAD.
I MISSD THAT OR DID STAFF --. >> WE HAD IT AT TWO AND COMMISSIONER MENTIONED GOING DOWN TO ONE AND IT WAS NEVER
SOLIDIFIED. >> YEAH. THAT WAS -- THAT WAS MY UNDERSTANDING AS WELL. WE LEFT THAT MEETING WITH TWO PERMITS
PER HOUSEHOLD. >> WE WERE DOWN TO THREE HOURS TWO.
>> I WANTED THREE. >> THERE WAS NOT A CONSENSUS ON THAT. THE OTHER THING THAT CHANGED WAS THE NONRESIDENT RATE. STAFF PROPOSED $100 A YEAR. AFTER RESIDENT FEEDBACK THERE WAS COMMISSION CONSENSUS TO CHANGE IT TO 124 A YEAR.
THOSE WERE THE TAKE A WHATS THAT I HAD. WE BUILT THIS BASED ON THE TAKE A WHATS GO THAT MEETING. IDENTIFY GOT SOMETHING WRONG I'M HAPPY TO ADJUST IT WHICH IS AGAIN -- AN OPPORTUNITY
TO DEFER. >> I'M JUST SAYING I DIDN'T
REMEMBER IT THAT WAY. >> OKAY.
>> OKAY. I MEAN -- I JUST -- JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE FOR
CLARITY PURPOSES. >> THANK YOU.
>> AND TO SUPPORT WHAT MS. CAMPBELL HAS SAID. THAT'S THE POINT ALSO OF HAVING A FIRST READING IT'S NOT AS IF WE CAN'T MAKE CHANGES THAT WAS OUR UNDERSTANDING COMING OUT OF IT.
WE PROPOSE SOME THINGS FROM TALKING TO ONE PARKING AFTER THEY TALK TO YOU. IT IS -- YOU KNOW STAFF'S RESPONSIBILITY I DRAFTED THIS ORDINANCE. YOU KNOW TRIED TO PUT -- I TALKED TO PAID PARKING.
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SO FAR WE HAVE JUST BEEN TALKING ABOUT CONCEPTS AND NOW WE HAVE A DOCUMENT THAT WE CAN GO THROUGH AND DISCUSS AND IF YOU GUYS WANT TO MAKE CHANGES AND DIRECT US A DIFFERENT DIRECTION WE CAN GO>> YOU CAN MAKE ONE MORE COMMENT?
>> OR SAY IT AGAIN. IT TOOK ME A HOT SECOND TO -- REALIZE IT WHEN I WAS FIRST LOOKING AT THIS OVER THE LAST WEEK.
THERE'S A FAIR NUMBER OF PEOPLE WHO ACTUALLY LIVE WITH IN WHAT WILL BE THE PAID PARKING AREA. THOSE RESIDENTS ARE CALLED OUT SEPARATELY AS MS. PRINCE SAID BECAUSE THEY WILL BE ALLOWED TO PARK THEIR VEHICLE FOR -- THEIR FREE VEHICLE, FREE PERMIT PASS FOR AN UNLIMITED TIME ON THE STREET THEY LIVE THERE WHEREAS THE REST OF US WILL HAVE A FOUR HOUR TIME LIMIT.
>> THANK YOU. I HAVE NO OTHER REQUESTS TO SPEAK. WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SPEAK. PLEASE START THE VOTE.
>> THIS IS A MOTION TO CONTINUE? >> YES.
[9. CITY MANAGER REPORTS]
THANK YOU. THAT PASSES 5-0 WHICH TAKES US TO ITEM 9 THE CITYMANAGER REPORT. >> THANK YOU. I WANTED TO FOLLOW UP ON THE RESPONSE FROM FPU FOLLOWING OUR COMMISSION MEETING TWO WEEKS AGO. STAFF HAD A GOOD PHONE CALL WITH THEM. I THINK IT WAS TWO DAYS AFTER THAT MEETING. THEY HAD THEIR ENTIRE TEAM ON THE LINE. THEY WERE COMMITTED TO RESOLVING ALL OF OUR ISSUES AND REALLY WANTED TO SHOW HOW MUCH THEY AND THEIR EMPLOYEES CARE ABOUT THE WORK THEY DO IN THE CITY. SO AS AN UPDATE TO THAT WE RESOLVED ALL OF THE 22 ACCOUNTS THAT THE CITY DIDN'T HAVE ACCESS TO. WE NOW HAVE ACCESS TO. WE RESOLVED ISSUES FOR HENDERSON, KELLER, CARPENTER, BRAY, AND TRUMP ON ALL OF THOSE INDIVIDUAL ACCOUNT ISSUES. THE LED LIGHTING AND TURTLE SHIELDS THAT TIMELINE HAS BEEN SHARED AND THEY HAVE STARTED TO INSTALL THE LIGHT SHIELDS AND LIGHTS. REGARDING THE ABANDONED POLES THEY NOTIFIED AT&T AND COMCAST OF OUR CONCERNS ON OCTOBER 29TH THEY SENT THE LIST TO THE CITY AND THEY ARE CONTINUING THEIR EFFORTS TO ADDRESS THE DOUBLE POLE LOCATIONS THEY -- THEY ARE STARTING TO INSTALL SOME LED LIGHTS. THEY PLAN TO START WITH 60 TO 70 TURTLE LIGHTS ON ATLANTIC AND FIRST AVENUE. THAT WILL TAKE ABOUT NINE MONTHS TO COMPLETE.
THE TEMPERATURE OF THEIR LED LIGHTS ARE NOT THE 5,000KELVIN BLUE LIGHTS BUT A 3,000 KELVIN WARM LIGHT IT IS STILL FAIRLY LIGHT COMPARED TO THE HIGH PRESSURE SODIUM RIGHTS BUT THE WATTAGE IS LESS THAN HALF OF THE OLD LIGHTS.
>> 3,000 IS STILL REALLY WHITE. THERE'S NO -- DO WE -- DO WE HAVE AN OPINION? CAN WE GET THAT DOWN TO 2,000 AND GET IT -- THEY WON'T LET US? IS THAT -- IS -- IT'S NOT A THING OR IT'S A --.
>> THAT'S NOT AVAILABLE WITH THE STREET LIGHTS. THE STREET LIGHT MARKET THAT'S NOT AVAILABLE I MEAN THE LED CAME OUT AS A 5,000 AND IT'S DOWN TO 3,000 BUT THAT'S THE LOWEST.
>> WOW. OKAY. >> ANY QUESTIONS?
>> ALSO, AFTER WAITING 50 MINUTES ON THE PHONE WITH FPU I DID GET A CALL BUT I RAN OUT OF TIME WITH THIS MEETING TO ACTUALLY FINISH SO I STILL CAN'T GET ONTO MY PORTAL.
>> AND I -- THE OTHER THING I WOULD SAY IS THAT THE ONE THAT
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GOT RESOLVED TODAY WITH TRUMPS -- WAITED 45 MINUTES ON HOLD SOFOR THEM. >> NINE HOURS. FOR THEM TO CONTINUE TO SAY HE THEIR HOLD TIME WAS THREE MINUTES AND NINE AND ALL THAT STUFF IS JUST CONTINUES TO BE INACCURATE WHEN TODAY PEOPLE ARE STILL ON HOLD FOR 45 MINUTES. HE DID GET HIS PROBLEM RESOLVED. AFTER RATING 45 WAITING 45 MINUTES.
>> THANK YOU. CITY CLERK. >> ALL RIGHT. CITY ATTORNEY.
[11. CITY ATTORNEY REPORTS]
>> THANK YOU. WE DID RECEIVE NOTICE TODAY -- YESTERDAY INOF 7051 HEARING. WE WILL BE BRINGING THAT BACK TO YOU ON NOVEMBER 18ST FOR OUR AUTHORIZATION TO DEFEND.
>> ANY QUESTIONS? SEEING NONE. VICE MAYOR.
[12. MAYOR/COMMISSIONER COMMENTS]
>> REAL QUICK. FESTIVAL. GREAT WEATHER. I'M TIRED. INSPIRING TO SEE SO MUCH EDUCATION. POINT OF INFORMATION THE MOTHERING -- THE MOTHER AND THE CALF ARE AT THE SURFACE BECAUSE THE CALF CAN'T STAY UNDER WATER VERY LONG, VERY DEEPLY SO THEY -- IT'S SUPER UNUSUAL FOR WHALES TO HANG OUT AT THE SURFACE. THEY ARE SUPER HARD TO SEE. THEY -- THE NUMBER ONE THING THAT THEY NEED IS FOR BOATS TO SLOW DOWN. BARNABUS OPENED THEIR EMPTY BOWLS FUNDRAISING THE BIDDING ON THEIR BOWLS STARTED ONLINE IF YOU ALL HAVE SEEN THAT. AIRPORT GARDENS HAVING AN OPEN HOUSE SATURDAY NOVEMBER 15TH FROM 3 TO 5 AND LASTLY I FORGOT TO SAY AT THE LAST MEETING BUT I NOTICED IT BEFORE THE MEETING STARTED, SHOUT OUT TO CAROLINE BEST. I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU DID IT BUT THESE VENTS. THE VENT COVER GOT TURNED AND IS NOW FACING OUT BECAUSE I'M SITTING HERE WITH A BLANKET ON FREEZING. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU CAN EVER NOTICE THAT I ALMOST START TO SHIVER EVERY MEETING. SO, THANK YOU. IT'S BETTER. THAT'S IT.
>> THANK YOU. >> THE ONLY THING I WOULD SAY AND THIS IS IN RESPONSE TO THE COMMENTS ABOUT THE BUILDINGS.
THERE WAS A PLAN -- BY THE WATERFRONT ADVISORY BOARD. THERE WERE SEVERAL OPTION THAT WERE PRESENTED.
THE ONE THAT WAS RECOMMENDED TO US BY THE WATERFRONT ADVISORY BOARD WAS TO HAVE A 5,000-FOOT SQUARE -- SQUARE FOOT DECK OUT IN FRONT BUT AT THE RECOMMENDATION OF MAYOR -- OF THE VICE MAYOR THE CONSENSUS WAS TO JUST PUT IN THE WALKWAY AND NOT PUT IN THE DECK. SO THERE ARE OPTIONS OUT THERE TO PUT MORE INFRASTRUCTURE IN SO THAT PEOPLE COULD HAVE AGATHERING PLACE THAT COSTS MORE MONEY OF COURSE BUT THERE ARE SOME OTHER OPTIONS AVAILABLE THAT COULD BE LOOKED AT IF -- IF THE COMMUNITY
WAS SO INCLINED. AND THAT'S IT. >> THANK YOU.
>> JUST WANT TO THANK THE PEOPLE WHO SHOWED UP AT MY FIRST TOWN HALL MEETING AND THERE WILL BE ANOTHER ONE NEXT MONTH. SO, PLEASE COME. IT WAS A -- SPIRITED CONVERSATION BUT IT WAS
POSITIVE. >> THANK YOU. I WOULD LIKE TO EXTEND SYMPATHIES TO THE FAMILY, THE FRIENDS AND LOVED ONES OF CHARLIE MARKS. HE WAS A DEVELOP KNOWN AND RESPECTED CAREER AVIATOR AND UPON RETIRING HE CAME TO WORK WITH THE HARBOR MARINA WHERE HIS SKILLS WERE REGULARLY APPLIED PRECISION, AND A CRISP ATTENTION TO DETAIL. HE LEAVES BEHIND HIS WIFE ANNA AND A NUMBER OF FRIENDS AS WELL AS A GRIEVING MARINA FAMILY I WOULD LIKE TO MENTION THE COMMUNITY APPRECIATION DAY WILL BE HELD BY THE POLICE DEPARTMENT THE THIRD ONE ON SATURDAY NOVEMBER 8TH, 10 TO 1. EVERYBODY IS WELCOME. THERE WILL BE ACTIVITIES, FOOD, MUSIC, BOUNCE HOUSES AND JUST GOOD COMMUNITY. THE GROCERY GOTTER BASED ON A SURVEY RESULT IS SCHEDULED TO MOVE TO TUESDAY WITH THE EXCEPTION OF VETERAN'S DAY UPCOMING. THERE WILL BE NO SHUTTLE THAT DAY T WILL RUN MONDAY, NOVEMBER 10TH AND TUESDAY'S SHUTTLE WILL VISIT THE SUPER WAL-MART, THURSDAY'S SHUTTLE WILL VISIT THE WIN DIXIE. FOOD RESOURCES HAVE BEEN
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EXPANDED AS THE GROWING NEEDS OF OUR COMMUNITY HAVE DONE SO AS WELL. FOR THOSE THAT AREN'T AWARE THEY OFFER A WEEKLY FOOD PANTRY, IT'LL BE TUESDAY THROUGH FRIDAY 10:00 A.M. TO 12:00 P.M. AS WELL AS EVENING HOURS ON THE THIRDTHURSDAY OF EACH MONDAY FROM FIVE TO 630 BE AND A FOOD DISTRIBUTION TAKES PLACE ON THE SECOND SATURDAY OF EACH MONTH AND AND OF COURSE UPCOMING VETERAN'S DAY THIS TUESDAY. CITY OFFICE ALSO BE CLOSED AND THERE ARE BE A PARA RAID AT 1 IS P.M. WE WILL SEE