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>> MAYOR MILLER: IF YOU COULD PLEASE CALL THE ROLE.

>> MAYOR MILLER: IF WE COULD RISE FOR THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE AND REMAIN STANDING BY THE INVOCATION BY REVEREND FELIX.

>> AND PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA.

AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION, UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.

>> SPEAKER: LET US BOW OUR HEADS.

FATHER GOD WE THANK YOU FOR ALWAYS BEING IN OUR MIDST.

WE ASK YOU FOR YOUR GUIDANCE TODAY AS WE DISCUSSED BUSINESS OF OUR COMMUNITY.

WE PRAY FOR OUR LEADERS AS WELL AS OUR CITIZENS.

AS ALWAYS, FATHER, WE SEEK TRANSPARENCY AND INCLUSION ON ALL LEVELS.

BLESS US AS WE LOOK TO YOU IN A JUST MANNER FOR THE ANSWERS CONCERNING YOUR PEOPLE.

WE THANK YOU AND WE LOVE YOU.

IN JESUS NAME WE PRAY, LET EVERYONE SAY AMEN.

>> ALL: AMEN.

>> MAYOR MILLER: THANK YOU, SIR.

AND WE DO HAVE A COUPLE OF PROCLAMATION IN A COUPLE OF PRESENTATIONS.

BEFORE I GET STARTED, A LITTLE HOUSEKEEPING.

ITEM 4.3 AND 7.9 IF YOU HAVEN'T HEARD HAVE BEEN REMOVED FROM THE AGENDA.

THAT'S THE SUSSMANS PARK PROPOSAL.

THE CITY MANAGER AND THE CITY ATTORNEY HAVE DECIDED THEY NEED TO GO OVER MORE DETAILS ON THIS BEFORE IT'S PRESENTED.

SO IF AND WHEN IT DOES COME BACK OUT THERE WILL BE AMPLE AG DOCTOR ERIC AGUILAR IS THE CONGRESSIONAL CANDIDATE FOR OUR FOURTH DISTRICT AND ALSO SEE MS. MARION PHILLIPS.

MARION, ARE YOU HERE? YOU MOVED ON ME.

WELCOME AND CONGRATULATIONS.

YOU ARE OUR FIRST CANDIDATE FOR THE CITY COMMISSION.

DOCTOR AGUILAR SAID HE WOULD REMAIN UNTIL AFTER THE MEETING.

WILL YOU BE AROUND FOR THE ENTIRE MEETING? YOU ARE AVAILABLE FOR QUESTIONS? DIFFERENT OUTLETS CONGRATULATIONS TO BOTH OF YOU.

[Item 4.1]

SO A WHILE BACK WE HAD A SITUATION AND OUR WASTEWATER PLANT ãNOT AT THE WASTEWATER PLANT, IT WAS HANDLED BY THE UTILITIES DEPARTMENT AND THEY DID A FANTASTIC JOB AND IT WAS SUGGESTED BY YOU THAT WE RECOGNIZE IT WARMLY.

DIFFICULT OF THE MEMBERS ON BOARD OF OUR UTILITIES DEPARTMENT OUR PRESIDENT.

WELCOME.

THANKS FOR COMING IN ON YOUR TIME OFF.

>> WE ARE GETTING PAID FOR THIS.

>> SPEAKER: THANKS FOR COMING OUT FOR THIS PROCLAMATION.

WHERE AS CLEAN SAFE WATER IS A FUNDAMENTAL HUMAN NEED, ESSENTIAL FOR HYDRATION, COOKING, CLEANING AND OF UTMOST IMPORTANCE SANITATION.

AND WHEREAS THE HEART OF THE DEDICATED UTILITIES WATER DEPARTMENT DIVISION EMPLOYEES IS AN UNYIELDING COMMITMENT TO PROVIDING FERNANDINA BEACH WITH SECURE AND DEPENDABLE WATER SUPPLY.HE WASTEWATER PLANT CLEAN SEWAGE FROM ME WATER SO IT CAN BE RETURNED TO THE ENVIRONMENT THE PLANT REMOVED SOLIDS AND APARTMENTS AND WHEREAS EARLY IN THE MORNING OF AUGUST 13, 2019 THE WASTEWATER DIVISION ARRIVED AT THE WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT AND IMMEDIATELY NOTICED CONDITIONS IN THE TREATMENT TAKES FOR EXPERIENCING GRAVE PROBLEMS WITH THE INCOMING SERVER TO THE PLANT SEWAGE TO THE PLANT AND WHEREAS THANKS TO THE SWIFT ACTION AND DECADES OF COMBINED EXPERIENCE AND COMMAND LEADERSHIP, WHAT COULD HAVE BEEN QUICKLY SPIRALED INTO A CATASTROPHIC ENVIRONMENTAL DISASTER AFFECTING OUR AREAS WATERWAYS AS WELL AS EVERY HOUSEHOLD IN BUSINESS AND FERNANDINA BEACH WAS CONTAINED, DIVERTED, AND EFFECTIVELY ISOLATED BEFORE ANY DISRUPTION TO SERVICES OR EFFECTS ON THE ENVIRONMENT WERE REALIZED.

AND WHEREAS THE CITY OF FERNANDINA BEACH COMMISSIONERS, CITIZENS, BUSINESS OWNERS AND VISITORS ARE GRATEFUL TO THE UTILITIES DEPARTMENT WASTEWATER DIVISION EMPLOYEES WERE STEADFASTLY WORKING AROUND THE CLOCK TO RESTORE THE CITY'S CRITICAL ABILITY TO TREAT MILLIONS OF GALLONS OF WASTEWATER ROUTE 33 LIFT STATIONS IN ONE CENTRAL PLANT.

CHIEF OPERATOR JOE KUHN OR OPERATOR RYAN STRICKLAND,

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OPERATOR FRANK WALTON, OPERATOR TIM BREWER, OPERATOR WALTER GRAY, WASTEWATER TECHNICIAN TO TRIP DUFFY, WASTEWATER TECHNICIAN TO JOE ED SLAVIN'S, ED, WASTEWATER TECHNICIAN TO ROBIN TURNER, WASTEWATER ELECTRICIAN, TERRY DODDS, WASTEWATER TECHNICIAN WHEN CASEY FRANK, UTILITIES DIRECTOR SUPERINTENDENT JUAN BROWN, UTILITIES DEPARTMENT PURCHASING AGENT DE LA CRUZ AND UTILITIES DEPARTMENT DIRECTOR JOHN MANDRAKE.

I THEREFORE NOW BY THE VIRTUE OF THE AUTHORITY VESTED IN ME AS THE MAYOR OF THE CITY OF FERNANDINA BEACH FLORIDA EXPRESS OUR SINCERE GRATITUDE IN WASTEWATER DEPARTMENT'S DIVISION.

DUE TO HER OUTSTANDING DEDICATION EXEMPLARY WORK IN SUCCESSFULLY MANAGING THIS DOMESTIC WASTEWATER CRISIS.

THANK YOU, GENTLEMEN.

>> SPEAKER: THESE GUYS ARE OF A FEW WORDS BUT I APPRECIATE THEM COMING OUT TONIGHT AND THANK YOU COMMISSIONERS FOR RECOGNIZING THE WORK THAT GETS DONE BEHIND THE SCENES.

SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH AND I KNOW THESE GUYS WERE ALL VERY PROUD TO SERVE THE COMMUNITY.

SO THANK YOU.

[Item 4.2]

>> MAYOR MILLER: WE HAVE A PRESENTATION.

THIS IS A GOOD ONE.

THIS IS A DONATION TO THE NORTH FLORIDA LAND TRUST.

MS. TERESA PRINCE IS HERE.

>> SPEAKER: THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR.

GOOD EVENING, COMMISSIONERS AND THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING US TO BE ON THE AGENDA TONIGHT.

WE ARE HERE TO PRESENT A $50,000 CHECK TO NORTH FLORIDA LAND TRUST IN ORDER TO ASSIST WITH THE PURCHASE OF THE PROPERTIES BETWEEN BROOME AND DATE STREET AND 11TH AND 12TH STREETS.

THIS IS THE ELIZABETH LAIRD TRUST IS THE TRUST MAKING THE DONATION.

SHE DIED IN 2003.

AND IF YOU WOULD GIVE ME A MOMENT TO JUST SPEAK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT HER I WILL TRY TO KEEP IT BRIEF.

TO GIVE YOU A BIT OF BACKGROUND, SHE IS KNOWN TO THE PEOPLE THAT KNEW HER AS THE MOTHER OF A GREEN LIGHT.ND THE REASON I WANTED TO MAKE A PRESENTATION TONIGHT IS BECAUSE I HAVE BEEN BEFORE YOU A COUPLE OF TIMES AND FELT ãAND GOT THE IMPRESSION THAT NONE OF YOU KNEW HER.

SO IT'S JUST SO INTERESTING HOW SOMEONE CAN MAKE AN IMPACT IN THIS CITY.

WE ARE SO FORTUNATE THAT PEOPLE MOVE HERE, THEY PASSIONATELY TAKE ON THIS CITY, MAKE IT THEIR OWN, PRESERVE IT AND DEVELOP IT AND DO WHATEVER WITH IT BUT WHEN HE MOVED TO AMELIA ISLAND AND NASSAU COUNTY WE'VE ALWAYS SAID THERE'S SOMETHING IN THE WATER.

I DON'T KNOW WHAT JOHN PUTS IN THERE, BUT - SO I ASKED SOME PEOPLE TO GIVE ME INFORMATION ABOUT HER.

WHAT I FIND INTERESTING ABOUT THE STORIES AND RECEIVED SHE ONLY WORKED FOR THE CITY FROM MAY 2001 UNTIL JUNE 2002 WHEN SHE FELL ILL WITH CANCER.

SHE ULTIMATELY PASSED AWAY IN JUNE 2003 AT THE AGE OF 56.

AND SO THE GRANTS ADMINISTRATOR AT THE TIME, WHAT WAS HAPPENING PRIOR TO THE GRANTS ADMINISTRATOR BEING HIRED IN 2000 WAS THE CITY WAS MOVING TOWARD ACQUIRING THE GREENWAY PROPERTIES AND THEY WERE WORKING WITH TRUSTS WITH PUBLIC LAND AND THE FLORIDA FOREVER LAND AND VICKI WHO IS NOW WINSLOW WHO IS THE TRUST OF THIS TRUST NOW AND AT THE TIME NONE OF THIS EXISTED BECAUSE SUSAN WAS ALIVE WAS HIRED AS THE CITY GRANTS ADMINISTRATION ãADMINISTRATOR.

AND ONE OF THE FIRST PEOPLE WHO WALKED INTO HER OFFICE IN 2000 BEFORE SHE WAS EVEN AN EMPLOYEE OF THE CITY WAS SUSAN LAYERED.

AND SUSAN IMPRESSED UPON HER THE IMPORTANCE OF THE GREENWAY AND THE IMPORTANCE OF ACQUIRING THE FUNDS AND ALL OF THE NECESSARY FUNDS THAT WOULD BE NEEDED TO PROMOTE A $6 MILLION GENERAL OBLIGATION BOND THAT WAS EVENTUALLY PUT TO THE CITY AND VOTED ON BY THE RESIDENTS AND PASSED.

VICKI DESCRIBED HER WHEN SHE WALKED IN THE OFFICE AS OBVIOUSLY AN ENVIRONMENTAL ACTIVIST.

SHE WAS TALL, THIN, VERY SERIOUS AND FRANKLY INTIMIDATING.

SHE INTRODUCED HERSELF TO VICKI AND BASICALLY DESCRIBE THE PROJECT THAT THE CITY HAD BEEN WORKING ON, AND BY THE TIME SHE LEFT VICKI'S OFFICE, VICKI GOT THE IMPRESSION THAT VICKI WAS A GREAT TRADER IN CHARGE OF GETTING THESE GRANTS, SHE HAD BETTER GET CRACKING AND GET ON IT IMMEDIATELY.

PART OF WHAT SUSAN DID WITH ALL OF US THAT WERE INVOLVED AT

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THAT TIME IN THE CITY IN 2000 WAS TO GIVE OUT TO THE GREENWAY AND TOOK YOU ON THESE PARCELS THAT WERE PROPOSED TO BE PURCHASED.

SHE TOOK THE GRANTS ADMINISTRATOR OUT THERE NUMEROUS TIMES SO THAT VICKI COULD DO THESE DETAILS GRANTS AND TRY AND GET THIS MONEY.

VICKI DESCRIBED IT THAT THEY SPENT HOURS WALKING TO THE PROPERTIES, WHICH WERE MOSTLY TANGLED PALMETTOS AND OAK HAMMOCK AND VICKI TOOK THE CAMERA IN THE NOTEBOOK, AND SUSAN WHO KNEW WHERE THE PROPERTIES WERE WAS THE TRAILBLAZER AND THEIR SCOUT.

SHE WOULD WALK IN FRONT OF VICKI WITH A STICK TO WIPE AWAY THE COBWEBS, AND IF YOU'VE BEEN OUT ON THE GREENWAY AT THE CRACK OF DAWN AND YOU NEED TO TAKE YOUR STICK OR YOU'RE GOING TO END UP WITH A FACE FULL OF COBWEBS.

SO THEY WOULD WALK THE PROPERTIES SO THAT THEY CAN BE DESCRIBED, AND AT THE END OF EACH TRIP THEY WERE ALWAYS HOT, FILTHY AND COULD MEASURE THE PROJECT ãPROJECT BY THE SIZE OF THE WATER OF THE SPIDERWEB AT THE END OF HER STICK.

SO SHE WORKED TIRELESSLY ALSO ON THE MITIGATION SITE FOR THE FLORIDA FDOT PROJECT WHICH AS WE ALL KNOW, IT'S GOING DOWN ATLANTIC, THE GREENWAY AND EGAN'S CREEK WAS OPENED UP AGAIN.

SHE MET WITH AND PARTICIPATED IN MEETINGS WITH NEIGHBORS WHO WERE CONCERNED ABOUT THE EFFORT OF THE GREENWAY AND THE RESTORATION OF THAT SALT MARSH.

SHE WAS VERY INSTRUMENTAL IN MAKING THAT HAPPEN.

AND SHE WORKED TIRELESSLY AND RELENTLESSLY AND DEVOTED TO THE CAUSE OF KEEPING FERNANDINA BEACH AND NASSAU COUNTY HEALTHY, BEAUTIFUL, AND ACCESSIBLE TO ALL.

THE CAMPAIGN BACK THEN WAS KNOWN AS SAVE OUR OPEN SPACES, AND SHE CAMPAIGNED AND RALLIED THE SUPPORT AND THE PASSAGE OF THIS $6 MILLION GENERAL BOND AND OBVIOUSLY THE CITY WAS INVOLVED AND THERE WAS ALL SORTS OF THINGS THAT WILL HAPPEN WITH NORTH FLORIDA LAND TRUST, I'M SURE.

AND SHE ALSO WAS INSTRUMENTAL IN THE CONSTRUCTION OF NORTH BEACH PARK AND SEASIDE PARK AS WE KNOW THEM TODAY.

THE PROJECT - VICKI WINSLOW HAD THE AUTHORITY TO GIVE THE FINAL CHARITABLE DONATION TO BE MADE, SO THE MONEY COULD NOT BE DONATED STRAIGHT TO THE CITY BECAUSE IT WAS NOT A CHARITABLE ORGANIZATION.

NORTH FLORIDA LAND TRUST AND AS THE MAYOR AND SOME OF YOU MAY REMEMBER, I JUST HAPPENED TO BE HERE ON MEETING THE NIGHT COMMISSIONER ROSS PUT IT ON THE AGENDA, AND WAS SITTING OUT HERE AND I PITCHED IT TO THE TRUSTEE, AND SHE FOUND IT APPROPRIATE TO MAKE THIS DONATION TO JUST HAVE AN ADDITIONAL PRESERVATION PROJECT ON THE ISLAND, AND IT WILL MAKE ANOTHER PERMANENT IMPACT ON THE CITY, COUNTY AND STATE THAT SHE LEFT.

AND SO WE ARE HERE TONIGHT.

VICKI WINSLOW DOESN'T LIVE HERE.

I BEGGED HER TO COME.

THIS IS DEFINITELY THE TRUSTEE AND THE TRUST DESERVE ALL THE CREDIT.

I'M JUST A MOUTHPIECE AND I'M GOING TO PRESENT THE $50,000 DONATION TO MARK AND MEGHAN FOR THE NORTH FLORIDA LAND TRUST TO PURCHASE THE PROPERTY BETWEEN BROOM NORTH 11TH AND 12TH WHICH WILL HAPPEN IN THE NEXT MONTH.

SO HERE YOU ARE.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

THE BALANCE OF THE TRUST VERY SMALL DONATIONS WILL BE MADE FOR THE FERNANDINA FOREVER PROJECTS WITHIN OUR FORAGE LAND TRUST IS GOING TO MATCH CITY FUNDS AND THEN ANOTHER SMALL DONATION IS GOING TO BE MADE AND I FELT THE CITY WOULD BE INTERESTED IN THAT FOR THE HABITATFOR HUMANITY PROJECT THAT WE WERE HERE ON THE OTHER NIGHT.

TO HELP GET THE PROJECT ON THE WAY.

THIS WILL BE MUCH SMALLER.

>> MAYOR MILLER: REAL QUICK NOT HAVING THE OPPORTUNITY TO KNOW MISS LAIRD AND HER LIFE I THINK IT'S INCREDIBLY POWERFUL THING THAT SOMEBODY WHO WORKED SO MUCH ON PARKS DURING THEIR LIFE SPAN IS STILL ABLE TO CONTRIBUTE IN THE COURSE OF OUR LIFE GOING FORWARD, THIS IS KIND OF OUR FIRST MAJOR PUBLIC GIFT AND SOME OTHER ONES ARE COMING IN.

I HAVE BEEN THE FACE OF THE NORTH FLORIDA LAND TRUST UP UNTIL THIS POINT BUT TONIGHT WE ARE ALSO INTRODUCING MEGAN WHO IS ON OUR TEAM.

SHE'S THE DEVELOPING DIRECTOR AND WILL BE RUNNING THE FUNDRAISING CAMPAIGN HERE WHICH WE WILL BE KICKING OFF NEXT MONTH.

SO IF YOU ARE CHARITABLY INCLINED, CALL MEGAN.

OTHER THAN THAT, WE ARE VERY EXCITED TO GET GOING ON THIS PARTNERSHIP WITH THE CITY AND GET MORE PARK AND PRESERVE LAND DONE.

SO WE LOOK FORWARD TO.

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>> MAYOR MILLER: WHEN YOU SAID YOU HAD NO PART IN THIS YOU HAD A MAJOR PART IN THIS.

YOU ARE HERE FOR A DIFFERENT SUBJECT ANYWHERE HERE FOR THAT AT ALL.

THE FACT THAT YOU TOOK IT AND SAW THIS COULD BE A POSSIBILITY AND MADE ALL THESE THINGS HAPPEN, I WANT TO APPRECIATE YOU.

THIS COULD NOT HAVE HAPPENED WITHOUT YOU.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

[Item 4.4]

>> MAYOR MILLER: ON TO ITEM 4.4 THIS IS THE BUDGET SUMMARY AND OUR COMPTROLLER IS HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS AND GIVE US INFORMATION.

>> ON THE CITY COMPTROLLER.

FIRST I'D LIKE TO SAY THE SEPTEMBER REPORT IS PRELIMINARY.

WE ARE STILL REPORTING TRANSACTIONS FOR THE 2019 FISCAL YEAR END.

FOR THE GENERAL FUND CURRENTLY YEAR TO DATE REVENUE IS AT 107.1 PERCENT OF THE BUDGET.

THIS IS DUE TO BUILDING AND PERMITS, FIRE MARSHAL FEES, AND INTEREST.

PROPERTY TAXES ARE AT 100.8 PERCENT OF THE BUDGET.

OVERALL, YOUR TODAY, GENERAL FUND EXPENSES REPRESENT 73.6 PERCENT OF THE BUDGET.

ALL THE INTERFUND TRANSFERS FOR THE MONTH HAVE BEEN COMPLETED.

ALL DEBT SERVICE PAYMENTS HAVE BEEN MADE FOR THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT FUND AS WAS ANTICIPATED THAT THE EXPENSES WOULD EXCEED REVENUES.

ALL OTHER CAPITAL FUNDS, REVENUES EXCEEDED EXPENSES.

FOR THE GOLF COURSE, EXPENSES EXCEED REVENUES.

AIRPORT REVENUES EXCEEDED EXPENSES PRIMARILY DUE TO THESE REVENUES FUEL SALES PARKING AND OTHER REVENUES.

IN THE MARINA CONTINUES TO HAVE LIMITED OPERATIONS FROM ROCKY MATTHEW AND IRMA.

DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS?

>> MAYOR MILLER: THANK YOU, MA'AM.

OKAY.

ON TO SECTION 5. PUBLIC COMMENT REGARDING ITEMS NOT ON THE

[Consent Agenda]

AGENDA, AND I DON'T HAVE ANY OF THAT.

OKAY.

GREAT.

SO ON TO SECTION 6. THIS IS THE CONSENT AGENDA APPEARED TO HAVE ANYBODY THAT WANTS TO MAKE A MOTION OR ANYTHING.

>> SPEAKER: I RECOMMEND APPROVAL.

>> MAYOR MILLER: SECONDED.

>> MAYOR MILLER: ADVISED MOTION AND A SECOND COULD YOU CALL THE

[Item 7.1]

VOTE.

TRUE 12.

>> MAYOR MILLER: THIS IS A BUDGET AMENDMENT FOR THE AIRPORT.

>> SPEAKER: THIS IS A BUDGET AMENDMENT FOR THE AIRPORT WE NEED SOME ADDITIONAL RESERVE MONIES FOR THE DEMOLITION OF THE OFFICE SPACE AND THE CONSTRUCTION AND THE REQUEST IS FOR AN ADDITIONAL $10,000 FOR CONTINGENCY FOR THE DEMO THE TOTAL PROJECT COST WOULD BE 105 305.

>> SPEAKER: RECOMMEND APPROVAL.

>> SPEAKER: SECOND.

>> MAYOR MILLER: HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.

MADAME CLERK, PLEASE CALL ABOUT.

[Item 7.2]

>> SPEAKER: THIS IS A VOLUNTARY ANNEXATION ROBIN HOOD DRIVE.

>> SPEAKER: THIS IS A STANDARD APPLICATION FOR USEFUL WATER AND SEWER SERVICE ON ROBERT ROTH SPECIFICALLY THE PROPERTY LOCATED AT THE INTERSECTION OF ROBIN HOOD DRIVE AND AMELIA ROAD.

>> MAYOR MILLER:

>> COMMISSIONER ROSS: I'M GOING TO MOVE TO APPROVE THIS

>> SPEAKER: I WILL SECOND.

>> COMMISSIONER ROSS: AS PART OF THIS OR IN ADDITION TO THIS I WOULD ASK THAT THE CITY STAFF AND CITY MANAGER COME UP WITH A LIST OF PROPERTIES THAT WE HAVE ANNEXED OVER THE YEARS BUT WERE NOT CONTIGUOUS TO THE CITY BECAUSE YOU CAN'T ANNEXED PROPERTY AND THIS ALLOWS US TO ANNEX IT BUT WE KEEP ANNEXING GIVING ANNEXATION AGREEMENTS FOR THESE DON'T ANNEX THEM IN.

SO IF YOU COME UP WITH A LIST OF ALL THE PROPERTIES THAT WE HAVE ANNEXEDTO FIND OUT IF THERE CONTIGUOUS AND IF THEY ARE CONTINUOUS LOOK INTO ANNEXING THOSE PROPERTIES.

SO I HOPE THE REST OF THE COMMISSION WOULD AGREE WITH THAT NUMBER DIRECTLY CITY MANAGERS AND STAFF.

>> SPEAKER: BECAUSE THERE'S SOME CONFUSION AMONG TWO SAY THIS IS NOT IN ANNEXATION BUT AN AGREEMENT TO ANNEX WHEN THEY BECOME CONTIGUOUS.

WE WILL PROVIDE WATER AND SEWER

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AT A 25 PERCENT SURCHARGE.

SO WHEN THEY COME CONTIGUOUS, THEY WILL HAVE TO COME IN.

AND I DON'T THINK THAT WE USED TO HAVE WATER AT ONE POINT.

THINK WE JUST HAD SEWER.

IS THAT CORRECT? SO I AGREE WITH WHAT YOU'RE SAYING MAKE SURE WHEN AND IF THEY BECOME CONTIGUOUS.

THAT THEY COME IN.

>> SPEAKER: OKAY.

CITY ATTORNEY, I THINK NORMALLY WHAT WE HAVE DONE BEFORE IS HAVE A VOLUNTARY ANNEXATION AGREEMENT AND THE ONES THAT ARE ALREADY DONE IT WITHOUT THE VOLUNTEER HOW WE GO ABOUT DOING IT? WHAT'S ãHOW DO WE CONDENSE IT THE HORSES OUT OF THE BAR NOW.

IT'S GOING TO BE TOUGH.

THEY WOULD HAVE TO VOLUNTARY COMMON WITH NO RESTRICTIONS.

>> SPEAKER: THAT'S A LOADED QUESTION.

GIVE THEM INCENTIVES FINANCIAL INCENTIVES.

WE PROBABLY AS A COMMISSION SHOULD THIS IS JUST FOR CONSIDERATION MONTHS AHEAD OF TIME CONSIDER DISCUSSING SOME TYPE OF ANNEXATION PROCESS, HOW YOU WOULD LIKE TO SEE IT DONE AT THE VISION SESSION AND WE HAVE IT AT THE BEGINNING OF 2020.

BECAUSE THERE ARE BUDGETARY ISSUES YOU CAN'T INCENTIVIZE.

THE ISSUE WITH ANNEXATION AND GETTING OUR CITY LIMITS ANY MORE SQUARE FASHION -IT'S ABOUT DELIVERY OF SERVICE.

IS YOU HAVE TO GET THE RESIDENTS THAT ARE REGISTERED VOTERS THAT'S IN THE STATUTE AND RIGHTFULLY SO.

YOU CAN'T JUST GO AND SAY YOU ARE IN THE CITY NOW NO MATTER WHAT YOU SAY.

IF THEY ARE REGISTERED VOTERS THERE THEY HAVE TO CONSENT.

THERE ARE SOME PROCESS OF TAKING IN SOME COMMERCIAL PROPERTIES BUT THAT'S ALREADY IF YOU HAVE SOME CONSENT FROM OTHER PARCELS THAT ARE THERE.

SO WE PROBABLY SHOULD TALK ABOUT THAT BECAUSE WE OF LARGE AREAS OF THE CITY THAT DON'T HAVE WATER AND SEWER RIGHT NOW AND YOU CAN INCENTIVIZE THOSE FOLKS TO HOOK UP TO WATER AND SEWER AND ANNEX THEM SAY YOU HAD TO PROVIDE MONEY TO PAY HER WATER AND SEWER.

>> SPEAKER: WHEN THIS PROPERTY BECOMES CONTIGUOUS THEY MUST ANNEX.

THAT WORD VOLUNTARY IS MISLEADING.F, FOR EXAMPLE, THE LOT NEXT DOOR WAS CONTIGUOUS AND THEY GOT SEWER AND WATER THESE PEOPLE WOULD HAVE TO ANNEX IT AND THEN IT BECOMES FINANCIAL INCENTIVE AND IT MAY BE TOO THEIR VALUE.

>> MS. BACH: I USED TO WORK AS AN ASSISTANT ATTORNEY WITH A CITY THAT LITERALLY GAVE $200 CHECKS TO RESIDENTS TO SIGN ANNEXATION AGREEMENTS.

THAT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT I'M GOING TO PROPOSE HERE BECAUSE $200 DOESN'T MEAN THE SAME AS IT DID BACK THEN EITHER.UT THERE ARE OTHER WAYS, FOR EXAMPLE, GETTING THEM OFF OF WELLS AND SEPTIC TANKS.

MY UNDERSTANDING I'M ON WATER SEWER BUT MY UNDERSTANDING IS THEY ARE VERY EXPENSIVE TO REPLACE HIM OR FIX THEM.

>> MAYOR MILLER: COMMISSIONER ROSS?

>> COMMISSIONER ROSS: THE FIRST POINT IS THAT THAT'S WHY I WANT THE CITY MANAGER -I WANT TO KNOW THAT IS LOOKING TO FIND OUT WHEN THIS PROPERTIES DO BECOME AVAILABLE.

AND THE SECOND POINT THAT I THINK WE SHOULD BE LOOKING AT IS THE CITY IS TWO PERCENT OF THE LANDMASS OF NASSAU COUNTY.

IT'S 40 PERCENT OF THE POPULATION AND WITH A 22 PERCENT OF THE TAX.

SO THERE'S A SIGNIFICANT DIFFERENCE IN WHAT WE GET FOR COUNTY TAX IS THE JAIL, WE GET THE ADMINISTRATIVE SERVICES OF THE TAX COLLECTOR, THE PROPERTY APPRAISER AND THE SUPERVISOR OF ELECTIONS BUT WE DON'T GET ANYTHING ELSE.

I THINK WE SHOULD BE LOOKING AT THIS THIS YEAR IN THIS BUDGET GOING TO THE COUNTY AND SAYING THERE'S A LARGE DISCREPANCY OF MILLIONS OF DOLLARS AND WE NEED TO WORK OUT SOMETHING THEY HELP US PAY FOR OUR BEACHES BECAUSE THEY USE OUR BEACHES.

>> MAYOR MILLER: I'D LIKE TO SEE THE NUMBERS ON HOW MANY USERS OF THE PARKS AND RECREATION PROGRAM ARE COUNTY RESIDENTS VERSUS CITY.

AND IF THE PERCENTAGE IS HIGH ENOUGH, I THINK THAT WE COULD MAYBE RAISE THE PRICES OF THE COUNTY USE AND THEN GET FREE FOR CITY RESIDENTS.

I THINK FREE PARKS AND ROCKS SHOULD COME INTO THE CITY.

I DON'T KNOW IF THOSE NUMBERS WILL WORK OUT.

I DON'T KNOW IF IT WILL PUSH IT SO HIGH THAT WILL GO SOMEWHERE US.

WE WANT THEM TO USE THE FACILITIES FOR HEALTH AND BENEFIT REASONS BUT IT WILL BE AN INTERESTING NUMBER TO SEE HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE USING THE GYMS IN THE WATERWAYS.

>> SPEAKER: WE HAVE THOSE.

IT CAN BE PRODUCED THROUGH THE SOFTWARE THEY USE.

>> MAYOR MILLER: THAT WOULD BE

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GREAT.

COMMISSIONER LEDNOVICH.

>> COMMISSIONER LEDNOVICH: TO BUILD ON WHAT YOU JUST SAID, I THINK THAT WOULD BE A TERRIFIC DISCUSSION OF THE FUTURE AGENDA WHERE WE COULD EXPLORE IT FURTHER.

>> MAYOR MILLER: OBVIOUSLY ONCE WE GET THE NUMBERS YES.

OKAY.

HAVE A MOTION IN A SECOND I BELIEVE I HEARD A SECOND ON THAT ONE.

IF WE COULD CALL THE VOTE, PLEASE.

[Item 7.3]

>> MAYOR MILLER: ITEM 7.3.

SOLE-SOURCE VENDOR APPROVAL FOR CROM, LLC.

>> SPEAKER: THIS IS FOR THE CONSTRUCTION OF AN ADDITIONAL 500,000 GALLON WATER STORAGE TANK.

CROM, LLC HAS BEEN THE CITY'S PROVIDER FOR MANY YEARS OF THESE WATER TANKS AND IN AN EFFORT TO STAY CONSISTENT WITH THE CONSTRUCTION, WE ARE SEEKING THE SOLE-SOURCE OF THE AMOUNT OF $758,190.

>> SPEAKER: MOVED TO APPROVE

>> SPEAKER: SECOND.

>> MAYOR MILLER: HAVE A MOTION AND THE SECOND.

>> SPEAKER: SO I PARTNER WITH THE VICE MAYOR ON SOLE SOURCING AND PRIMARILY, THIS IS THREE QUARTERS OF $1 MILLION BUT WE ARE GOING TO SOLE-SOURCE.

SO THE OBVIOUS QUESTION THAT I WOULD HAVE IS THIS VENDOR THE ONLY ONE THAT FILLS THE STATES? AND WHAT IS THE ADVANTAGE -IS THERE AN ADVANTAGE TO PUT THIS OUT FOR COMPETITIVE BID? THOSE ARE MY TWO QUESTIONS.

VICE MAYOR, I SEE YOUR LIGHT IS ON.

>> COMMISSIONER KREGER: I HAVE TALKED TO JOHN AND THE COMPANY'S HERE AND I WANT TO GIVE HIM THE OPPORTUNITY TO COME UP AND ANSWER THOSE QUESTIONS.

>> SPEAKER: A COUPLE OF THINGS TO START WITH.

THE TYPE OF TANK THAT GETS CONSTRUCTED IS A PRESTRESSED WILD CONCRETE TANK.

THIS COMPANY BUILT THE ORIGINAL DIGEST THAT WE HAVE AT THE WASTEWATER PLANT BACK IN 1955.

MONTAIGNE IS STILL IN USE, STILL IN SERVICE, IT'S 64 YEARS OLD.

IT SHOWS NO SIGNS OF DETERIORATION, AND IT'S DUE TO THE TYPE OF MATERIAL USED IN THE METHOD THEY USED TO CONSTRUCTED.

CROWN CORPORATION WAS THE LEADER IN THE FIELD AND THEY HAVE DONE ALL OF OUR GROUND STORAGE RESERVOIRS, EVEN WHEN I USED TO WORK IN THE PRIVATE SECTOR AT FLORIDA PUBLIC UTILITIES, WE UTILIZED THEM TO BUILD OUR GROUND STORAGE TANKS.

THEY HAVE A CERTAIN METHOD THAT THEY USE AND THERE ARE OTHER TYPE MANUFACTURERS IN EXISTENCE, PRIMARILY A LEADER IN THE SOUTHEAST.

THERE IS CROWN.

THERE'S ANOTHER COMPANY THAT BUILDS TANKS IN THE STATE AND THEY HAVE HAD SIMILAR ISSUES.

THEY DON'T HAVE A TANK THAT LASTED 64 YEARS.

THEY HAVE BEEN ONLY BUILDING TANKS FOR FOUR LESS YEARS OF BUSINESS, AND AS THE ENGINEER OF RECORD, I WOULD NOT FEEL COMFORTABLE WITH THEM BUILDING THAT TANK, JUST BECAUSE THEY DON'T POSSESS THE SAME LIFE TRACK RECORD AND A VIABLE PRODUCT THAT WE'VE HAD.

IN 2010, WE ALSO BUILT A CLARIFIER AND A CAROUSEL TYPE TANK WITH CROWN.

AT OUR WASTEWATER PLANT AT A HUGE SAVINGS TO THE CITY.

THE CITY HAD ACCESS TO ITS OWN GENERAL CONTRACTOR ON THESE PROJECTS AND WE DO MOST OF THE ENGINEERING ALL IN-HOUSE EXCEPT FOR THE ACTUAL TANK STRUCTURAL ENGINEERING, AND THAT'S DONE BY CROWN.

IF YOU HAD A SPECIFIC TAKE QUESTIONS, I HAVE STEPHEN CRAWFORD HERE WHICH IS THEIR VICE PRESIDENT.

CROWN IS LOCATED IN GAINESVILLE, FLORIDA.

I MEAN, THEY JUST HAVE AN EXTREMELY PROVEN TRACK RECORD IN TANK CONSTRUCTION.

THE COST THAT THEY QUOTED TO US ARE VERY IN LINE AND THEY ARE ACTUALLY AT A DISCOUNT COMPARED TO WHEN THEY NORMALLY DO THEIR BUSINESS THAT A CITY WILL PUT OUT A LARGE BID PACKAGE FOR A WHOLE TANK THAT INCLUDES A GENERAL CONTRACTOR'S SERVICES AND A LOT OF TIMES A PROFESSIONAL ENGINEER WRITES THE SPEC FOR THOSE.

WE ARE ACTING AS OUR OWN GC BECAUSE I HAVE A GENERAL CONTRACTORS LICENSE IN THIS STATE.

SO THE CITY IS SAVING FAIRLY LARGE AMOUNT OF MONEY THAT YOU

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KNOW, CROWN IS GIVING THE CITY A DIRECT PRICE VERSUS IF THEY GO OUT TO THE CITY PUTS A WHOLE SPEC TOGETHER TO DO A WATER TREATMENT PLANT, THEN A GC OR A GC COMPANY WOULD BID ON IT.

HE GC WOULD THEN GO TO CROWN AND GET A PRICE AND YOU WOULDN'T EVEN BE PRIVY TO IT.

BECAUSE YOU WENT ON A LARGE BID CONTRACT.

SO IT'S A LITTLE DIFFERENT MODE OF OPERATION THAT THE CITY SAVES HUGE ON 2010 WE BUILT A WASTEWATER PLANT THAT'S PROBABLY GOT A BOOK VALUE OF OVER 25 MILLION AND WE BUILT IT FOR 3.7.

SO THE CITY IS RENDERING HUGE SAVINGS BY DOING THE THINGS INTERNALLY.

THERE'S AN AMOUNT OF RISK AND ANYTHING BUT THERE'S A HUGE COST IN IT.

THIS TANK HAS AT LEAST A 100 YEAR LIFE AND WHEN YOU MEMORIZE IT OUT OVER 100 YEARS YOUR COST IS 100 DIVIDED INTO 750 IS 7500 BUCKS A YEAR.

SO IT IS A LOT OF MONEY, BUT IS A LONG-TERM INVESTMENT, AND WHEN YOU BUILD SOMETHING THAT'S GOING TO LAST 100 YEARS, YOU DEFINITELY WANT SOMEBODY THAT'S GOT A PROVEN TRACK RECORD TO BUILD IT.

AND I GIVE THEM 110 PERCENT ENDORSEMENT OTHERWISE I WOULD NOT HAVE RECOMMENDED IT.

SO I THINK IT'S - IF YOU HAVE A SPECIFIC TANK QUESTION, YOU KNOW, THAT'S WHAT STEVENS CAME FROM GAINESVILLE TO ANSWER.

SOMEBODY WHO'S GOT SPECIFIC TAKE QUESTIONS AND DURING THE PROCESS WHEN HOPEFULLY WE DO BUILD THIS TANK, YOU CAN ALL COME OUT AND WATCH AND HOW THEY DO IT.

IT REALLY IS QUITE NEAT.

IT'S QUITE A PROCESS THAT IS NOT JUST, YOU KNOW, INDEPENDENT OF THE CRAFTSMANSHIP.

IT'S SHOOTING GUNITE AND WIRE ROUNDING.

THERE'S A LOT OF CRAP IN SHIP THAT GOES INTO MAKING THIS STRUCTURE.

IT'S A LOT DIFFERENT THAN JUST STACKING CONCRETE BRICKS.

THERE'S AN ART INVOLVED IN IT.

>> MAYOR MILLER: SO THE ANSWER I HEARD IS THIS IS A SPECIALIZED TANK.

THE COMPANY THAT WE ARE USING HAS A LONG HISTORY OF A PROVEN PRODUCT.

THE LOAN COMPETITOR HAS NOT BEEN A BUSINESS THAT LONG, AND THE WORK THAT THEY HAVE DONE HAS BEEN PROBLEMATIC.

DID I CAPTURE THAT CORRECTLY?

>> SPEAKER: YOU DID.

>> COMMISSIONER ROSS: I WOULD JUST LIKE TO COMMCOMPLEMENT HIM.

HE GIVES US EXCEPTIONAL VALUE SO WHEN HE COMES UP THERE AND SAYS HE SUPPORTS THEM 110 PERCENT, AND YOU WILL KNOW THAT I DELVE INTO THINGS.

I JUST SAY FINE.

BECAUSE HE REALLY IS PHENOMENAL WITH PROTECTING THE TAXPAYER MONEY AND GIVING US EXCEPTIONAL VALUE.

>> SPEAKER: THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER.> MAYOR MILLER: I AGREE WITH WHAT CHIP IS SAYING BUT I ALSO AGREE ASKING THE QUESTIONS AND YOU ACTUALLY MEET THE REQUIREMENTS OF SOLE SOURCING AND THAT'S WHAT OUR JOB IS TO MAKE SURE FOR THREE QUARTER OF $1 MILLION.

CONFIDENCE IN YOU IS THERE, BUT IT'S ALMOST A PROPRIETARY SYSTEM, AND WHEN YOU LOOK AT THAT THING.

WHAT WE SHOULD BE ASKING IS THOSE QUESTIONS.

>> I WELCOME THEM.

>> SPEAKER: I KNOW YOU DO, JOHN.

>> SPEAKER: I AGREE 100 PERCENT.

I THINK IT'S AN ONLY IMPORTANT THAT WE TALK ABOUT THIS BUT THE PUBLIC HEARS IT AS WELL.OU SEE SOMETHING THAT'S THAT LARGE OF A NUMBER, I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO HEAR EXACTLY HOW THIS IS BEING DECIDED.

WE KNOW BUT I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO ADVISE THE PUBLIC AS WELL.

>> SPEAKER: WE CAME PREPARED.

>> SPEAKER: WE DON'T NEED YOU, APPARENTLY.

>> SPEAKER: I CAN RECOMMEND SOME GREAT RESTAURANTS.

WELCOME, GUYS.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

THANK YOU, JOHN.

>> MAYOR MILLER: ITEM 7.4.

I'M SORRY.

WE NEED TO VOTE.

CAN YOU CALL THE BOAT PLACE? VOTE PLEASE?

[Item 7.4]

>> MAYOR MILLER: THIS IS A CODE ENFORCEMENT FINE REDUCTION AND RELEASE OF LIEN FOR THE CASE OF HAZEL RICHO.

CITY ATTORNEY?

>> MS. BACH: I AM GOING TO LET MR. HARRISON WHO IS THE ATTORNEY FOR HAZEL RICHO'S GUARDIAN GO AHEAD AND TELL YOU THIS IS A REQUEST FOR REDUCTION.

THE REASON THAT THIS IS ON YOUR AGENDA VERSUS YOU HAVE NOT YET LATER IN THE AGENDA WE HAVE SECOND READING OF OUR NEW

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ORDINANCE, BUT I ASKED MR. HARRISON IF HE HAD ANY OBJECTION TO GOING AHEAD AND LETTING THE COMMISSION DECIDE THIS SINCE WE DO HAVE CASE LAW IN FLORIDA THAT WE HAD A UNANIMOUS VOTE AT FIRST READING FOR THAT WITHOUT ORDINANCE AND YOU IS PROPER FOR THEM TO BE HERE AND I DID EXPLAIN TO THE CODE ENFORCEMENT BOARD WILL BE MET EARLIER THIS MONTH THAT WE WOULD BE DOING THIS.

>> SPEAKER: HARRISON PULLED FROM POOL AND POOL AND WE ARE HERE ON BEHALF OF LINDA RICCIO WHO IS THE APPOINTED GUARDIAN FOR HAZEL RICHO AND THAT'S THE OWNER OF THE PROPERTY IN WHICH WE ARE REQUESTING THAT REDUCTION OF A FINE WHICH CURRENTLY IS ABOUT $67,000 IN FINES.

BUT THIS IS NOT YOUR TYPICAL FINE REDUCTION CASE, AS YOU REVIEW THE DOCUMENTS WOULD ROBERT QUIGLEY SHOW.

THIS IS THE CASE ãIS A VERY SAD CASE OF WHAT I BELIEVE IS EXPLOITATION OF THE ELDERLY AND ELDER ABUSE.

HAZEL RICHO AND HER HOME AT 330 S. 12TH ST. HAD TWO DISTANT RELATIVES LIVING WITH HER.

ALONG THE WAY SHE GRANTED ONE OF THEM THE POWER OF ATTORNEY.

I THINK IT WAS A GREAT NEPHEW.

GREAT BEING USED TO DESCRIBE THE FAMILIAL RELATIONSHIP, NOT THE PERSON.

WHAT THIS INDIVIDUAL ENDED UP DOING WAS MOVING INTO HER HOUSE.

HE WAS THE SOLE CAUSE FOR THE CODE ENFORCEMENT PROCEEDINGS.

THE DERELICT VEHICLES, TACTLESS AND OPERABLE VEHICLES WERE HIS AND THE TRASH OF THE ART WAS HIS.

HE HAD ALL THE CONTROL OF THIS PROPERTY WHILE MS. RICHO WAS BEDRIDDEN.

HER PHYSICAL CONDITION WAS DETERIORATING TO A POINT WHERE HOSPICE WAS CALLED IN.

FURTHER, SHE WAS LATER SHOWN IN COURT, WAS MENTALLY INCAPACITATED.

THIS INDIVIDUAL USES POWER OF ATTORNEY AND CONVEYED THIS HOUSE TO HIMSELF WITH A DEED INCLUDING OTHER PROPERTIES.

SO EVEN WHEN THE NOTICE WAS SERVED, SHE WASN'T EVEN THE TITLE HOLDER OF THE PROPERTY.

OUR CLIENT IS HER NIECE, AND ALONG THE WAY SHE BECAME VERY CONCERNED ABOUT THE WELL-BEING OF HER AUNT.

SO MUCH SO THAT SHE CAME IN TO OUR OFFICE AND INITIALLY ENGAGED MY UNCLE AND LAW PARTNER PRICES RECENTLY RETIRED SO THAT'S WHY YOU GET STUCK WITH ME.

BUT THROUGH THE PROCESS SHE APPLIED FOR PETITION TO BE APPOINTED GUARDIAN, WAS APPOINTED, AND THEN IT WAS THE PROCESS OF UNRAVELING THIS WEB, ALL THESE ISSUES.

WE HAD TO FILE SUIT TO CANCEL THE DEED THAT HE HAD RECORDED TO CONVEY THIS PROPERTY TO HIMSELF.

WE DID THAT AND AFTER THAT PROCESS WAS COMPLETED, THEY WERE STILL IN THE HOUSE AND WOULD NOT GET OUT.

WE HAD TO FILE A MOTION FOR AN UNLAWFUL DETAINER, WHICH IS THE PROCESS TO USE TO GET THE WRIT OF POSSESSION FROM THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE WHILE I WAS WORKING, THE GUARDIANSHIP CASE, WE ACTUALLY HAD HER RELOCATE ã SHE RELOCATED CLOSER TO THE GUARDIAN IN JACKSONVILLE.

I'M HAPPY TO SAY THAT SHE'S IMPROVED PHYSICALLY.

SHE'S UNDER THE CARE OF IN-HOME NURSING, HOSPICE DISCHARGED HER A FEW MONTHS AFTER OUR CLIENT BECAME INVOLVED.

THE CIRCUMSTANCES IN WHICH SHE WAS LIVING WERE VERY DIRE.

SHE WAS NOT BEING CARED FOR PROPERLY.

SO END, SHE'S IMPROVED.

WE DON'T KNOW MENTALLY IF SHE WILL EVER REALLY RECOVER, BUT PHYSICALLY, HER CONDITION HAS IMPROVED.

AFTER WE GOT THE WRIT OF POSSESSION, WHICH WE FINALLY RESTORED THE PROPERTY BACK INTO THE GUARDIAN'S POSSESSION AND CONTROL, MS. RICHO, OUR CLIENT, THE GUARDIAN ACTED QUICKLY TO GET THE PROPERTY IN COMPLIANCE.

THE VEHICLES WERE REMOVED AND THE YARD WAS CLEANED UP AND CURRENTLY THEY ARE IN THE PROCESS OF TRYING TO SELL THE PROPERTY.

WHICH IS IMPORTANT BECAUSE RIGHT NOW, THIS IS $67,000 IN FINES AND THERE'S A LIEN ON THE PROPERTY AND THAT'S MONEY THAT MS. RICHO NEEDS FOR HER SUPPORT.

IT COSTS THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS A MONTH FOR THAT IN-HOME CARE, AND THIS IS CRUCIAL FOR, AND TO ALLOW THE FUNDS TO STAY IN PLACE WOULD DO NOTHING TO PUNISH THE PERSON HE WAS RESPONSIBLE FOR THEM.

WE HAVE ABSOLUTELY NO PROBLEM AND WOULD VOLUNTEER IMMEDIATELY TO PAY THE ADMINISTRATIVE COSTS.

WE THINK CODE ENFORCEMENT STAFF HAVE DONE AN EXEMPLARY JOB IN THIS CASE, AND THAT CERTAINLY IS EXPECTED TO BE PAID.

BUT WE WOULD ASK THAT THE MERCY OF HIS COMMISSION TO REDUCE THAT FINE AND IN A CASE WHERE I TRULY BELIEVE THE EQUITY IS IN SUPPORT OF IT.

LIKE I SAID, IT'S NOT YOUR TYPICAL FINE REDUCTION CASE WHERE IS PURELY ECONOMIC, BUT THIS IS REALLY FOR HER WELL-BEING AND SOMETHING THAT SHE HAD NO PHYSICAL OR MENTAL ABILITY TO CONTROL.

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SO I HAVE THE GUARDIAN HERE THIS EVENING IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OF HER AND HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU, BUT THAT'S WHY WE ARE HERE AND I WOULD STAND BY THE REQUEST.

>> SPEAKER: YOU HAVE A QUESTION, COMMISSIONER ROSS BUT BEFORE YOU ASK THAT IS IT A QUESTION? BEFORE I MOVE TO ACCEPT THE LOAN REDUCTION TO ZERO WITH THE EXCEPTION OF THE ADMINISTRATIVE FEES.

>> SPEAKER: I WILL SECOND.

>> SPEAKER: I WOULD LIKE TO HEAR FROM CODE ENFORCEMENT.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

IF YOU CAN TAKE ALL THIS.

>> SPEAKER: I AM GEORGE WHILE I AM COLD COMPLIANCE OFFICER FOR THE CITY OF FERNANDINA BEACH.

AFTER HEARING MR. POOLE IN WRITING THE PACKET THAT HE PRESENTED ON BEHALF OF MS. HAZEL RICHO, AND CONFERRING WITH MY DIRECTOR, WE ARE IN AGREEMENT WITH THE FOLLOWING THAT WE RESENT ALL CODE VIOLATION FINES AND UPHOLD THE ADMINISTRATION FEES.

>> SPEAKER: THANK YOU, SIR.

I SEE NO FURTHER LIGHTS.

LET ME GO AHEAD AND CALL THE VOTE.

GO AHEAD.

YOUR CLIENT OR THE ESTATE PAY THE ADMINISTRATIVE COSTS AND WHAT ARE THOSE? DO YOU HAVE THOSE HANDY?

>> SPEAKER: THEY WENT UP A LITTLE BIT? $375 $0.76 AS OF TODAY AND IT'S NOT IN THE STATE YET BECAUSE MS. RICHO IS STILL LIVING BUT IT'S ONE OF THE GUARDIANSHIP AND I WOULD SAY GIVE US A WEEK.

I COULD HAVE IT TOMORROW IF YOU REALLY WANTED.

>> MS. BACH: I JUST ã

>> SPEAKER: 14 DAYS OR WHATEVER THE PLEASURE OF THE COMMISSION.

THAT WILL BE PAID.

>> MS. BACH: I WILL RECOMMEND THAT YOU AMEND YOUR MOTION TO HAVE THOSE COSTS PAID WITHIN 14 CALENDAR DAYS.

>> COMMISSIONER ROSS: SURE.

>> SPEAKER: SECOND.

>> MS. BACH: THANK YOU, VERY MUCH.

>> MAYOR MILLER: COULD YOU CALL ABOUT?

>> SPEAKER: BEFORE WE CONCLUDE THAT SO MUCH AS A THANK YOU VERY MUCH TO BOTH OF YOU ALSO I BELIEVE THAT YOUR CLIENT IS HERE TONIGHT.

MA'AM, I JUST WANT TO SAY HOW FORTUNATE IT IS FOR YOUR AUNT THAT YOU GOT INVOLVED IN THIS.

SHE'S VERY LUCKY TO HAVE YOU AS A FAMILY MEMBER.

THIS COULD HAVE BEEN MUCH MORE SERIOUS IF IT HAD NOT BEEN FOR YOU.

GLAD IT WORKED OUT THE WAY YOU DID.

>> SPEAKER: THANKS TO ALL OF YOU AND TO THE ATTORNEYS.

>> SPEAKER: DID YOU NEED

[Item 7.5]

SOMETHING?

>> MS. BACH: NO.

>> MAYOR MILLER: ITEM 7.5 THIS IS A PURCHASE FOR O'STEEN COMPANY, LLP AND RICHARD AND PAMELA SIMMONS.

>> MS. BACH: THIS IS THE FIRST STEP IN THE EMINENT DOMAIN PROCESS.

WHERE THE CITY STATES ITS INTENT TO BUILD A PUBLIC PARK FACILITY ON THIS PROPERTY, AND THAT WE WILL GO TO THE EMINENT DOMAIN PROCEDURES, WHICH START WITH NEGOTIATION ON PRICE.

AS YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW -I GUESS IT WAS LAST YEAR SOMETIME A RECENT LETTER OFFERING $850,000 FOR THE PROPERTY.

WE DID NOT RECEIVE A COUNTER OFFER, AND SO THAT OFFER EXPIRED.

SO WE DECIDED TO TAKE THESE STEPS AND MR. BUDDY JACOBS AND HIS LAW FIRM IS GOING TO HANDLE THE EMINENT DOMAIN PROCEEDINGS, AND I WILL BE, OBVIOUSLY, WORKING WITH THEM.

SO I RECOMMEND APPROVAL UNLESS YOU HAVE QUESTIONS.

>> SPEAKER: CHRISTOPHER PREW.

>> SPEAKER: SECOND.

>> MAYOR MILLER: I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.

VICE MAYOR, YOUR RECOGNIZE.

>> COMMISSIONER KREGER: WE PREVIOUSLY AUTHORIZED BUDDY JACOBS TO PROCEED WITH THIS AND WE PREVIOUSLY SET THE FOOTPRINT OF THAT PROPERTY WITHIN OUR PARK.

SO THIS IS JUST A STEP - WHAT IT REALLY IS IT?

>> MS. BACH: THIS IS REQUIRED BY STATE STATUTE.

AS A SKETCH OF THE COVERS EMINENT DOMAIN WE HAVE TO TAKE THIS STEP.

>> MAYOR MILLER: COMMISSIONER LEDNOVICH?

>> COMMISSIONER LEDNOVICH: WOULD YOU QUICKLY WALK US THROUGH THE STEPS?

>> MS. BACH: I WOULD HAVE TO PULL UP THE STATUTE AND IF YOU JUST GIVE ME A MOMENT, I'M HAPPY TO DO THAT.

THE FIRST, GENERALLY SPEAKING.

IF YOU WANT DETAIL ãTHE FIRST STEP IS NEGOTIATING A PRICE WITH THE PROPERTY OWNER, TRYING TO COME TO BEFORE WE GET TO THE COURTS AND BURDEN THE COURT SYSTEM, WE ARE REQUIRED TO SIT DOWN AND NEGOTIATE A PURCHASE PRICE.

>> SPEAKER: AND MR. JACOBS IS NEGOTIATING FOR US?

>> MS. BACH: CORRECT.

IS THAT YOUR ONLY QUESTION?

>> SPEAKER: WHAT HAPPENS THEN?

>> MS. BACH: THE NEXT STEP IF WE CANNOT AGREE IS THAT IS WHEN THE COURT GETS INVOLVED.

AND THEN THERE ARE ATTORNEYS FEES, POTENTIALLY, BUT THE

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ATTORNEYS FEES ARE BASED UPON, FOR EXAMPLE, IF THE CITY IS - I WILL USE THESE TERMS, LOWBALLING THEM AND NOT BEING REASONABLE ON THE PRICE, IF THEIR ATTORNEY GETS THEM A PERCENTAGE MORE, THE ATTORNEY GETS FEES BASED ON A BENEFIT RECEIVED FOR THEIR CLIENT.

SO THE COURT CAN JUST ORDER IT.

THE LAST EMINENT DOMAIN ACTIONS THAT THE CITY WAS INVOLVED IN WAS IN 2007, 2006, AND THE CITY HAD TO ACQUIRE SOME BEACHFRONT PARTIALS EASEMENT SO THAT WE COULD DO BEACH NOURISHMENT.

>> SPEAKER: THANK YOU.

>> MAYOR MILLER: ICING OVER THE LIGHTS SO -DID YOU HAVE SOMETHING ELSE?

>> MS. BACH: NO.

>> MAYOR MILLER: COULD RECALL THE VOTE?

[Item 7.6]

>> MAYOR MILLER: THIS IS A LICENSE AGREEMENT WITH UNITED STATES OF AMERICA DEPARTMENT OF THE NAVY.

>> SPEAKER: YOU HAVE A REQUEST LICENSE AGREEMENT IS FOR THE INSTALLATION OF RADIATION MONITORS ON STREET SIGNS WITHIN THE CITY LIMITS AND CONVERSATIONS WITH THE NAVY THESE MONITORS WERE TYPICALLY PLACED ON UTILITY POLES BUT THE UTILITY COMPANIES HAVE EXERTED A RIGHT OF OWNERSHIP REQUESTING THAT ONLY THEIR OWN ITEMS BEYOND THEIR UTILITY POLES NECESSITATING THE NEED TO HAVE THEM ON OTHER PUBLIC PROPERTY, IN THIS CASE FIVE STREET SIGNS WITHIN THE CITY LIMITS.

>> SPEAKER: HAVE A MOTION IN A SECOND IF WE COULD CALL THE VOTE.

[Item 7.7]

>> MAYOR MILLER: ITEM 7.7.

THIS IS A SOLE-SOURCE VENDOR APPROVAL FOR STRATEGIC GOVERNMENT RESOURCES INCORPORATED

>> INCLUDED IN THIS YEAR'S BUDGET IS THE SERVICES THE DEPUTY CITY MANAGER/CITY ENGINEER AS WELL IS HUMAN RESOURCE DIRECTOR TO SUCCEED THE EXISTING HUMAN RESOURCES DIRECTOR SCHEDULE RETIRE THIS YEAR.

THIS IS FOR THE USE OF STRATEGIC RESOURCES THE CITY HAS UTILIZED BEFORE SUCCESSFULLY BECAUSE THAT'S WHO UTILIZED SO THIS IS IN THE AMOUNT OF $21,250 FOR IMPROVEMENT IN THOSE TWO POSITIONS.

>> SPEAKER: RECOMMEND APPROVAL.

>> SPEAKER: SECOND.

>> MAYOR MILLER: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

COULD YOU CALL THE VOTE.

[Item 7.8]

>> MAYOR MILLER: ITEM 7.8 THIS IS A LEASE AGREEMENT ASSIGNMENT FOR AMELIA RIVER HOLDINGS, LLC.

>> MS. BACH: THIS IS A CONSENT TO ASSIGNMENT AND AN ASSUMPTION OF LEASE AGREEMENT FOR THE AMELIA RIVER HOLDINGS, GOLF CLUB AND RIGHT NOW I'M OVER GOLF, LLC IS LEASING THE PROPERTY FROM THE CITY IT IS CITY PROPERTY IN THE AIRPORT CONSIDERED PART OF THE AIRPORT PROPERTY AND PART OF THE AIRPORT LAYOUT PLAN, AND IT IS APPROVED BY THE FAA FOR NON- AERONAUTICAL USES.

I WILL SAY RIGHT OFF THE BAT THAT THE USES ON THE PROPERTY THAT ARE PERMITTED BY THE LEASE AND NOTHING ELSE.

GOLF COURSE AND LODGING ACCOMMODATIONS AS THAT IS DEFINED BY THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE.

SO THIS IS CONSENT TO THE ASSIGNMENT.

NOW, THE ACTUAL ASSIGNMENT ITSELF, THOSE DOCUMENTS, THEY GET SIGNED AT A CLOSING MUCH LIKE BUYING OR SELLING PROPERTY, AND IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING FROM THE ATTORNEY FOR AMELIA RIVER GOLF, LLC THAT THERE'S A CONDITION THAT SHOULD THAT CLOSING WILL HAPPEN OR SOMETHING FALL THROUGH, IF THIS IS APPROVED TONIGHT, THIS CONSENT TO ASSIGNMENT, THAT THIS WOULD BE VOID AND AMELIA RIVER GOLF, LLC WILL RETAIN THE LEASE.

BECAUSE THERE ARE THINGS THEY WILL HAVE TO DO BEFORE CLOSING AND SOMETIMES CLOSINGS JUST DON'T HAPPEN.

>> COMMISSIONER ROSS: WITH YOUR PERMISSION I WOULD LIKE TO ASK THE CITY ATTORNEYS SEVERAL QUESTIONS JUST TO CLARIFY FOR THE PUBLIC.

THE FIRST QUESTION IS WE CAN AGREE THIS LEASE WAS FIRST WRITTEN IN 1994, CORRECT?

>> MS. BACH: YES.

>> COMMISSIONER ROSS: SINCE 1994 IT'S BEEN MODIFIED FOUR TIMES, TWO OF THEM WERE FOR MORTGAGE ISSUES, AND THEN TWO OF THEM WERE TO CHANGE OR ADD ON TO ALLOW THE HOTEL, AND ONE OF THOSE CHANGES WAS TO CHANGE IT FROM A HOTEL TO ACCOMMODATIONS TO MEET WITH CITY DEFINITION IS THAT CORRECT?

>> MS. BACH: CORRECT.

>> COMMISSIONER ROSS: AND THE LENGTH OF THE LEASE WAS SET BACK IN 1994 AND WAS 30 YEARS AND THERE'S FIVE YEARS LEFT ON THE CURRENT LEASE AND THE 220 YEAR EXTENSIONS THAT CAN BE -

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THEY LEESY CAN JUST EXTEND AND THERE'S NO CONDITIONS.

>> MS. BACH: AS LONG AS THEY ARE NOT IN DEFAULT.

>> COMMISSIONER ROSS: AND THE AMOUNT OF THE LEASE PAYMENT WAS SET BACK IN 1994, AND I THINK IT'S A STEAL OF A PRICE, BUT ANYHOW, IT'S BASED ON A RENTAL FEE WHICH IS A SET PRICE THAT'S IN THE LEASE AND THEN IT'S 2 1/2 PERCENT OF THE GROSS, CORRECT?

>> MS. BACH: YES.

>> COMMISSIONER ROSS: AND THAT THEN COMES UP IN THE FISCAL YEAR 2019 IT CAME OUT TO $204,000 IN CHANGE.

>> MS. BACH: YES.

>> COMMISSIONER ROSS: THE TWO THINGS I THINK ARE IMPORTANT IS ON PAGE 17 OF 50 OF LEASE IT SAYS, RESTRICTION ON A USE CLAUSE AND I JUST WONDER IF YOU WOULD COMMENT ON WHAT THAT MEANS WHICH SHALL NOT REASONABLY BE WITHHELD, WHAT THAT MEANS.

>> MS. BACH: AND I DON'T HAVE THE DOCUMENT APPEAR AND THAT'S A COMMON TERM IN CONTRACTS.

SHALL NOT BE UNREASONABLY AND WHAT DOCTOR ROSS IS REFERRING TO IS A PROVISION THAT SAYS IN THE LEASE HOW WE CAN USE THE PROPERTY, HOW YOU THE LESS HE COULD USE THE PROPERTY.

IT'S GOLF COURSE AND LODGING ACCOMMODATION.

AND IF THERE'S A REQUEST BY LEESY TO USE IT FOR SOMETHING ELSE, THAT THE CITY COMMISSION'S CONSENT TO APPROVAL WOULD NOT BE UNREASONABLY WITHHELD.

SO THAT'S WHAT IT MEANS.

WHAT THAT MEANS IS ANY REQUEST TO USE IT FOR SOMETHING OTHER THAN A GOLF COURSE OR LODGING ACCOMMODATIONS, THE CITY WOULD HAVE TO BE UNREASONABLE.

SO I WILL USE A RACETRACK EXAMPLE, FOR EXAMPLE.

I AM GOING TO SAY THAT IT WOULD NOT BE UNREASONABLE FOR THE CITY COMMISSION TO DENY THE REQUEST TO USE IT AS A RACETRACK, WHETHER OR NOT IT WAS LOCKED IN OUR ZONING CODE OR AS AN ACCESSORY USE, THE COMMISSION HAS THE CONTROL OVER HOW THE PROPERTY IS BEING USED AS LONG AS IT'S NOT UNREACHABLE.

AND I THINK YOU WOULD BE REASONABLE, YOU, THE CITY COMMISSION IF YOU DID NOT REQUEST TO USE IT AS A RACETRACK, A GO KART TRACK, ANY KIND OF TRACK.

MAYBE A RUNNING TRACK.

OR A GOLF TRACK.

>> COMMISSIONER ROSS: AND MY FINAL QUESTION HAS TO DO WITH THE ASSIGNMENT AND SUBLETTING CLAUSE WHICH SAYS WHICH SHALL NOT BE UNREASONABLY WITHHELD.

SO THIS BASICALLY MEANS THAT IF THEY CAME TO US AS THEY ARE WE HAVE TO DO THIS UNLESS THERE IS SOME REALLY OUTSTANDING REASON THAT WE SHOULDN'T DO IT.

SO BASICALLY I WILL USE THE TERM WE ARE RUBBERSTAMPING US BECAUSE WE HAVE TO.

>> MS. BACH: THAT WAS MY ADVICE.

THERE WAS ONE OTHER THING WE TALKED ABOUT AND THAT WAS ABOUT ATTORNEYS FEES AND DOCTOR ROSS ASKED ME WHY DO THEY HAVE A PREVAILING PARTY? CAN WE JUST ãTHIS IS MADE BASED ON THE ASSIGNMENT ISSUE.

IT'S NOT IN THE ORIGINAL LEASE.

CAN WE DO EACH PARTY PAYS ITS OWN FEES WE GOT INTO A DISPUTE OVER THIS ASSIGNMENT? AND I HATE TO ã

>> I THINK IT WAS THE FOURTH AMENDMENT THAT WAS INCLUDED IN THE LEASE ARRAY SO I DON'T SEE A REASON WHY THAT WOULD BE ALLOWED.

>> MS. BACH: IS JUST IN THE ASSIGNMENT DOCUMENT I'M SPEAKING OF.

>> JOHN WITHE SUPERVISION LEASE.

SO THAT'S FINE.

>> MS. BACH: GREAT.

THANK YOU.> SPEAKER: I MOVED TO APPROVE IT WITH THE ADDITION OF THE CHANGE

>> SPEAKER: I SECOND.

>> SPEAKER: WILL RECOGNIZE, SIR.

>> COMMISSIONER KREGER: THIS TRANSACTION IS JUST A FABULOUS THING TOGOLF COURSE AS IS WITH LEASE AS IT IS.

THE AIRPORT IS JUST A REALLY GOOD THING AND I WANT TO THANK MR. SCHONFELD AND TOM MILLER ALSO LEASES PUTT PUTT AND THAT CIGAR STORE AFTER SO WE HAVE WORKED WITH TOM BEFORE REPUTABLE BUSINESSMAN.

SO IT'S A GOOD SITUATION IT'S A WIN-WIN.

>> SPEAKER: BOTH THESE GENTLEMEN ARE FANTASTIC MEMBERS OF OUR COMMUNITY.

ONE OF THE MOST DIFFICULT CONVERSATIONS I'VE EVER HAD TO HAVE IS EXPLAINED TO PEOPLE HAVE YOU COME UP TO THE PODIUM AND HAVE TO DESCRIBE THE PEOPLE YOU ARE FROM YOUR IS VERY DIFFICULT FOR ME TO HAVE TO HEAR.

YOU ARE AN ASSET TO OUR COMMUNITY.

THANK YOU AND I THINK WE MET WHEN HE FIRST OPENED THE PUTT PUTT.

DID YOU GET IT FROM AARON? YES MA'AM?

>> MS. BACH: I'D LIKE TO ADDRESS SOMETHING ELSE BECAUSE IT MAY,, MR. MILLER.

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WE -YOU REQUESTED, AND I OPINED BEFORE REGARDING YOU HAVING OR NOT HAVING A VOTING CONFLICT BECAUSE YOU WORK FOR ONE OF THE COMPANIES THAT MR. SCHONFELD HAS AN INTERESTING, AND IT IS MY OPINION ãWE HAVE NOT RECEIVED A COPY ON ETHICS AND WHAT THEIR DECISION IS THAT I HAVE REVIEWED THE CASE LAW OR ATTORNEY GENERAL OPINIONS AND I HAVE FELT STRONGLY ALL ALONG THAT OPINION WOULD COME BACK BEFORE THE ETHICS COMMISSION AND WE WOULD HAVE NO FOLDVOTING CONFLICT.

SPEECH OF WHICH MIGHT NOT BE A GOOD THING FOR MR. SCHONFELD BECAUSE A COUPLE OF THINGS HAVE COME UP AND I'VE BEEN A SWING BOAT WHICH IS A VERY UNCOMFORTABLE SITUATION FOR ME.

THE WAY IT WAS EXPLAINED TO ME WHEN IT CAME UP BEFORE WAS THAT IF I HAD A FINANCIAL INTEREST IN THE DECISION THAT WAS MADE HERE I CAN JUST SAY THAT MY INCOME WOULD NOT FLUCTUATE WHATSOEVER WHETHER OR NOT THERE WAS A GOLF COURSE AT THE AIRPORT.

IF THEY COME SEE YOU THEY ARE GOING TO COME SEE ME.

>> MS. BACH: AND THE ATTORNEY GENERAL OPINION HAS FOUND AND I CAN SAY WELL SO THAT YOU WORK FOR A COMPANY THAT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH AMELIA RIVER GOLF, LLC.

JUST BECAUSE MR. SCHONFELD IS AN OWNER OR INTERESTED THE ATTORNEY GENERAL HAS FOUND THERE'S NO CONFLICT.

>> MAYOR MILLER: I MEDICAL OVER THAT AS WELL.

I'LL CITY LIGHTS ALSO HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.

IF WE COULD CALL THE BOOK.

CALLED THE VOTE.

[Item 8.1]

>> MAYOR MILLER: WE ARE ON TO SECTION 8. ITEM 8.1 CHARTER AMENDMENT CONSERVATION REFERENDUM.

>> MS. BACH: THESE ARE SECOND READING ORDINANCES, AND I CAN READ OVER ALL OF YOU THAT ARE LEAVING THE CHAMBERS, DON'T WORRY ABOUT THAT.

AMENDED ORDINANCE AND ORDINANCE OF THE CITY COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF FERNANDINA BEACH FLORIDA SUBMITTING TO THE CITY COLLECTORS PROPOSED AMENDMENTS TO THE CHARTER WHICH AMENDS SECTION 10 A TO ADD PROVISIONS TO THE CITY CHARTER REQUIRING REFERENDUM ELECTION FOR SALE OR LEASE OF CITY-OWNED CONSERVATION LAND PROVIDING FOR SEPARABILITY AND PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE.

PLEASE OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING.

>> MAYOR MILLER: OPENED THE PUBLIC HEARING.

AND CLOSE TO PUBLIC HEARING.

> MS. BACH: TO BE CLEAR, THE CITY COMMISSION IS NOT AUTHORIZING ANY SPECIAL ELECTION.

THIS WILL BE A BALLOT QUESTION JUST AS IT'S WRITTEN IN THE ORDINANCE IF APPROVED IN THE NOVEMBER 2020 GENERAL ELECTION.

>> MAYOR MILLER: THANK YOU, MA'AM.

>> SPEAKER: I RECOMMEND APPROVAL.

>> SPEAKER: I SECOND THAT.

>> MAYOR MILLER: I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.

MADAME CLARK, COULD YOU PLEASE

[Item 8.2]

CALL THE BOAT.

VOTE.

>> MS. BACH: THE CITY OF FERNANDINA BEACH, FLORIDA REGARDING AUTHORITY TO SATISFY CODE ENFORCEMENT AND OTHER MEANS AND GENERALLY CODE ENFORCEMENT BOARD.

REPEALING SECTION 1-13, MUNICIPAL LIEN PRIORITY DUE TO COURT RULING PROVIDING THAT MUNICIPAL LANES ARE NOT SUPER PRIORITY LEADS; CREATING SECTION 1 ã14 APPLICATION FOR SATISFACTION OF LEADS, REDUCTION OF FINES, AND SETTLEMENT OF LEADS.

AMENDING SECTION 2 ã386 REMOVAL OF MEMBERS, REPEALING ALL ORDINANCES AND CONFLICT HEREWITH, PROVIDING FOR SEPARABILITY AND PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE.

PLEASE OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING.

SPEED TO OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING.

AND CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.

>> SPEAKER: RECOMMEND APPROVAL.

>> SPEAKER: SECOND.

>> MAYMILLER: BRANDON CLARKE, CALLED THE BOAT BOVOTE.

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>> MAYOR MILLER: ON TO SECTION 9. THIS IS LAND CONSERVATION.

THIS ITEM IS PLACED ON THE AGENDA AT THE REQUEST OF COMMISSIONER LEDNOVICH.

>> COMMISSIONER ROSS: MALIK COMMISSION WOULD BE FOR COMMISSIONER ROSS TO UPDATE HIS CONSERVATION GRAPH THERMOMETER.

>> COMMISSIONER KREGER: THERE'S NO CHANGE.

>> COMMISSIONER LEDNOVICH: DID WE GET A DONATION? THAT HAS TO CLOSE.

MY QUESTION WOULD BE WHERE ARE WE ON THE PURCHASE?

>> MS. BACH: I JUST WAS EMAILING MR. HUDSON TODAY.

HE WAS HERE TONIGHT, BUT WE HAVE TITLE INSURANCE FOR ALL THREE PARCELS, AND IS A THREE BECAUSE WE HAVE MR. GARRETT'S PROPERTY, THE EPISCOPAL CHURCH PROPERTY, AND THEN THE DODD'S

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PROPERTY.

ALL THREE HAVE TITLE INSURANCE SO ALL OF THE ENVIRONMENTAL SURVEYS HAVE BEEN DONE, AND WE ARE READY TO CLOSE.

SO I WOULD SAY THAT IN NOVEMBER, WE HAVEN'T SET A DATE YET.

IT WILL BE DONE BY MAIL.

WE ARE NOT GOING TO GO IN PERSON TO A CLOSING.

WE SHOULD CLOSE ON THESE PROPERTIES.

>> MAYOR MILLER: COMMISSIONER ROSS?

>> COMMISSIONER ROSS: DESPITE SOME ASPERSIONS AND CERTAIN BLOGS AND SOCIAL MEDIA, ALL OF THESE PROPERTIES WERE BOUGHT AT THE PRICE SO THE VALUE OF THE PROPERTY WAS BY AN APPRAISAL NOT BY WHAT THE PROPERTY APPRAISER SAYS BECAUSE THE PROPERTY APPRAISER DOES HUGE OVERVIEWS AND THEY DON'T GO IN PARCEL BY PARCEL.

THESE WERE ALL APPRAISED SO WE ARE PAYING THE APPROPRIATE AMOUNT OF MONEY FOR THEM.

>> MS. BACH: GENERALLY SPEAKING, THE PROPERTY APPRAISER'S'S MARKET VALUE IS 15 TO 20 PERCENT LOWER THAN WHAT IT GETS APPRAISED FOR.

>> SPEAKER: IS THAT WHAT'S OUT THERE? WE ARE MOVING TO NI9.2 AND 9.3.

MAYBE WE SHOULD ADD A 9.6 WHICH IS DISPELLING FACEBOOK RUMORS.

WE COULD EXTEND THE MEETING TO ABOUT MIDNIGHT HAVE A SPECIAL WEDNESDAY MEETING.

ITEM 9.2 THIS IS A WATERFRONT PARK DEVELOPMENT IN THIS ITEM WAS PLACED ON THE AGENDA AT THE REQUEST OF MR. LEDNOVICH.

YOU HAVE THE FLOOR.

>> COMMISSIONER LEDNOVICH: I WILL YIELD MY TIME ON THIS AND REQUEST WE GO TO 9.3.

UNLESS SOMEONE ELSE HAS ANYTHING.

>> MS. BACH: WE ARE GETTING A LITTLE CLOSER AND EARLIER WITH

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THE EMINENT DOMAIN.

SO WE ARE GETTING CLOSER.

>> MAYOR MILLER: ON TO ITEM 9.3.

VIDEO TELECONFERENCE SOFTWARE THIS WAS PLACED ON THE AGENDA AT THE REQUEST OF LEDNOVICH.

YOU HAVE THE FLOOR.

>> COMMISSIONER LEDNOVICH: WE HAVE SOMEONE TO THINK ON THIS TOPIC.

SHE SENT US AN INTERESTING ARTICLE ABOUT THE CITY OF MIAMI AND HER COMMENT ON THE EMAIL WITH THE ARTICLE WAS CITY COMMISSION MEETINGS WILL NEVER END.

IF WE DO THIS.

BUT ESSENTIALLY, WHAT THE CITY OF MIAMI HAS DONE IS THERE IS SOFTWARE AVAILABLE AND PEOPLE CAN PUT ON THEIR DEVICES.

INSTEAD OF HAVING TO APPEAR IN PERSON FOR PUBLIC COMMENT THEY CAN APPEAR VIA VIDEOCONFERENCING.

SO THEY CAN DO IT FROM THERE DESKTOP AT HOME, THEY CAN DO IT FROM A COFFEE SHOP ON THEIR PHONE AND THEY CAN DO IT FROM THE AIRPORT ON THEIR TABLET.

AND IT'S NOT EXPENSIVE.

THE MIAMI LAKES PAYS $500 A YEAR.

500 BUCKS.

I WAS AMAZED.

ESSENTIALLY WHAT PEOPLE DO IS THEY DOWNLOAD THE SOFTWARE.

FROM THEIR WEBSITE AND THE SOFTWARE ENABLES THEM TO LINK THEM TO MEETINGS.

AND I THOUGHT THIS WAS A VERY GOOD IDEA BECAUSE ONE OF OUR MISSION GOALS IS TO BE THE NUMBER ONE ADA COMPLIANT CITY.

IS IT A MISTAKE? IN THE STATE.

SO IF YOU ARE WHEELCHAIR-BOUND, WHAT BETTER USE OF TECHNOLOGY THAN THE ABILITY TO BE ABLE TO TELECONFERENCE IN TO BE ABLE TO PARTICIPATE AS A PUBLIC SPEAKER.

THAT'S NUMBER ONE.

NUMBER TWO, I THOUGHT OF HOT BUTTON ISSUES.

FAMILIAR BLUFF AND AMELIA RIVER BEING TO WHERE WE HAD 100 PEOPLE OUT IN THE STREET ON A VERY COLD NIGHT WAITING HOURS TO SPEAK.

ENABLING THIS TECHNOLOGY WOULD ALLOW THOSE PEOPLE TO SIT IN A WARM FACILITY AND WAIT THEIR TURN AND STILL BE AFFORDED THE OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO HEAR AND HAVE THEM EXPRESS THEIR OPINIONS.

WE ARE LIMITED BY THE NUMBER OF SEATS WE HAVE IN THIS ROOM, AND OFTEN TIMES WITH PROCLAMATIONS, WE DON'T GET OR IF IT'S A SPECIFIC AGENDA ITEM, YOU MAY NOT GET TO IT UNTIL VERY LATE IN THE EVENING.

SO THIS AFFORDS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR A WIDER AUDIENCE.

AND NUMBER THREE, DEMOCRACY IS ABOUT THE ENGAGEMENT OF ITS

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CITIZENS, AND IF WE CAN LEVERAGE TECHNOLOGY FOR A MERE $500 AND ENGAGE MORE PEOPLE IN THEIR LOCAL GOVERNMENT, WHAT A WONDERFUL TOOL TO HAVE.

SO I WOULD URGE MY FELLOW COMMISSIONERS TO SUPPORT THE CITY MANAGER EXPLORING THIS, FINDING OUT EXACTLY THE NUANCES OF HOW MIAMI LAKES HANDLES

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THESE REQUESTS TO SPEAK AND HOW IT'S WORKING FOR THEM.

THANK YOU.

>> MAYOR MILLER: THANK YOU, SIR.

ITEM NUMBER FOUR OPTIONS FOR DEVELOPMENT WORK MORATORIA.

>> MS. BACH: I HAVE BROUGHT THIS TO YOUR ATTENTION NOT FOR ANYTHING OTHER THAN MY NOTICE AND PERCEPTION THAT CITY COMMISSIONERS, CITIZENS, ARE ASKING WHAT FOR MRS. BEING BUT SHE COME UP AND ASKS US WHAT ARE WE DOING ABOUT STOPPING DEVELOPMENT.

THIS IS ONE TOOL THAT YOU CAN USE TO STOP THE DEVELOPMENT.

BRIEFLY, I PROVIDED A BUNCH OF BACKUP, AND SOME ORDINANCES FROM OTHER TOWNS.

RIGHT NOW OUR CITY IS GOING THROUGH THE DAR WHICH IS AMENDING OUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN WHICH WILL BE FOLLOWED INEVITABLY WITH CHANGES TO THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE OR LAND DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS.

AND SO THOSE TWO THINGS, AND WE HAVE AND WE HEAR ALL THE TIME WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH STAFF.

STAFF DOESN'T HAVE ENOUGH TIME.

SO WE DO NOT HAVE CONSULTANTS IN PLACE TO HANDLE DEVELOPMENT APPLICATIONS.

SO THIS IS A TOOL THAT WE COULD PUT IN PLACE AND IF IT WERE DONE, WE GET ONE YEAR, WE CAN REASONABLY EXTENDED SIX MONTHS AND THEN WE HAVE TO HAVE A REALLY GOOD REASON TO EXTENDED ANOTHER SIX.

IN MY OPINION.

AND SO I WANTED TO PUT THIS OUT THERE FOR COMMISSIONERS AND CITIZENS.

I WILL TELL YOU THAT I HAVE BEEN ASKED CAN WE JUST APPLY THIS TO NEW DEVELOPMENT? CERTAINLY WE DON'T WANT TO DENY BUILDING PERMIT FOR SOMEBODY TO FIX SOMETHING OR ADD A LITTLE ACCESSORY STRUCTURE THAT HELPS WITH AFFORDABLE HOUSING.

NO.

WE CAN'T.T'S NOT BECAUSE I DON'T WANT TO.

IT'S BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW HOW TO DECIPHER ãWE ARE GOING TO THE PROCESS OF AMENDING THESE CODES, HOW DO WE SAY REASONABLY THAT WE ARE DOING IT FOR JUST NEW DEVELOPMENT? BECAUSE WE'RE NOT.

WE'RE DOING IT FOR ALL DEVELOPMENT.

I HAVE NOT FOUND A GOOD REASON.

BASICALLY, A MORATORIUM ON DEVELOPMENT APPLICATIONS AND/OR BUILDING PERMITS.

>> MAYOR MILLER: THANK YOU.

I SAY HER?

>> COMMISSIONER KREGER: I ACTUALLY LOOKED AT BOTH OF THOSE AND IN BOTH OF THOSE CASES YOU ARE DEALING WITH SPECIFIC AREAS.

SPECIFIC REDEVELOPMENT AREA AS IN THE OTHER TOWN.

I THINK IT'S A DIFFICULT SITUATION, A MORATORIUM.

THINK WE ALL GOT A LETTER FROM PLANNING ABOUT THIS SAME ISSUE OF ALL THE DIFFERENT STEPS, EAR, THE DECISION ON REVISION FOR REVISING THE COMP PLAN INSTEAD OF BEING THIS BIG, THAT WE CAN'T IMPLEMENT AND LET'S MAKE IT A LITTLE SMALLER AND IMPLEMENT IT.

AND, YOU KNOW, I THINK THAT I HAD AN ACTUAL TALK TODAY WITH THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT AND WITH KELLY AND SUGGESTED THAT THAT LETTER WOULD BE A GOOD PRESENTATION WHICH FITS INTO THIS, THE WHOLE PROCESS, AS A NEXT STEP AT THE BEGINNING OF THE COMMISSION SO WE CAN SHARE ALL THE INFORMATION WITH THE PUBLIC.

I THINK IT'S NOT A BAD IDEA TO LOOK AT ALL OF THESE ISSUES, BUT I THINK WE HAVE TO BE REAL CAREFUL WITH PROPERTY RIGHTS AND OTHER ISSUES.

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>> MAYOR MILLER: THANK YOU, SIR.

AND ITEM 9.5.

THE CITY ATTORNEY HAS A BIT ON THE OCEAN HIGHWAY AND PORT AUTHORITY.

>> MS. BACH: I WROTE A SHORT SUMMARY AND SAID WELL PERHAPS IT'S TIME FOR US TO DO A LETTER.

AND FORMALLY START THIS NEW RESOLUTION.

IT TURNS OUT THAT I TOOK AN INTERMEDIATE STEP AND INVITED THE ATTORNEY JEFF BRANHAM FOR OCEAN HIGHWAY AND PORT AUTHORIY TO A MEETING WITH BUDDY JACOBS WHO INTERESTINGLY ENOUGH IN THE 80S WAS THE ATTORNEY FOR THE PORT AUTHORITY AND HAS ALL OF THAT HISTORY, AND SO WE ARE GOING TO MEET ON OCTOBER 24.

WE ARE GOING TO MEET WITH MR. BRANHAM THE ATTORNEY AND MR. STURGIS THE CHAIR FOR THE OCEAN HIGHWAY AND PORT AUTHORITY.

SO I SAY, LET'S WAIT FOR THAT MEETING TO HAPPEN, AND THEN WE CAN GO FROM THERE.

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>> MAYOR MILLER: THANK YOU.

>> MS. BACH: AND I WILL TRY TO CONVINCE THEM THAT THE PILOT PAYMENT IS THEIR LEGAL OBLIGATION.

>> MAYOR MILLER: COMMISSIONER ROSS?

>> COMMISSIONER ROSS: THANK YOU FOR THAT.

I JUST LIKE TO BRING UP ANOTHER ISSUE, AND I HOPE THESE WERE EMAILED TO ALL COMMISSIONERS.

I PUT THEM IN WELL BEFORE FRIDAY.

THE PORT, I GO TO THE PORT MEETINGS AND THEY ARE PUTTING MORE PROPERTY.

AND THEY ARE PROCEEDING WITH THAT.

AND THEY HAVE A GRANT FROM THE STATE THAT WILL PAY MORE THAN A SIGNIFICANT PORTION OF IT.

WE ARE TALKING MILLIONS OF DOLLARS.

AND THAT GRANT THERE ARE CERTAIN CONDITIONS, AND I BROUGHT THAT UP WITH THE PORT AND MAY APPARENTLY SOMEWHAT FELL ON DEAF EARS.

SO I WOULD ASK -THIS CONDITIONS ARE THAT THEY COME TALK ABOUT US, AND THEY FOLLOW OUR BUILDING CODES.

THE AGENCY ASSURES THAT THEY'VE GIVEN FAIR CONSIDERATION TO THE INTERESTS OF THE LOCAL COMMUNITIES AND HAS HAD A REASONABLE CONSULTATION WITH THOSE PARTIES AFFECTED BY THE PROJECT.

SO I WOULD ASK WITH THE AGREEMENT OF THE COMMISSION THAT WE SENT THEM AND HAVE THE CITY MANAGER AND/OR CITY ATTORNEY SEND THEM A LETTER THAT POINTS OUT THAT THEY HAVE 2B FOR THIS GRANT IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE LAND RULES AND WITH OUR CONSISTENCY WITH THE LOCAL GOVERNMENT PLAN AND ASKED THEM TO COME AND MAKE A PRESENTATION TO US SO WE CAN AT LEAST FIND OUT WHAT'S GOING ON IN OUR COMMUNITY AND MAYBE PARTNER WITH THEM IN SOME WAY.

BUT I WOULD JUST MAKE IT TO WHERE THEY COULD AT LEAST COME AND DO THAT BEFORE THE PROBLEMS WITH THEIR GRANT BECAUSE IF YOU WERE LISTENING TO THEIR COMMENTS, THEY ARE ALREADY GOING OUT AND GETTING CLOSE TO GOING OUT DESIGN AND WHAT I WOULD HOPE THEY WOULD DO IS COME TO THE REVIEW COMMITTEE BEFORE THEY DO THAT SO WE HAVE THE DISCUSSION OF WHAT'S GOING ON INSTEAD OF THEM GOING INTO THIS AS HAPPENS WITH ANOTHER PROPERTY AND GOING DOWN THE ROAD AND STARTING NEW THINGS AND WE GET INTO DIFFERENT ISSUES.

SO JUST TO WRITE A LETTER REMINDING THEM AND ASKING THEM TO COME AND TALK TO US AND REMINDING THEM OF THEIR RESPONSIBILITIES.

>> COMMISSIONER KREGER: I ACTUALLY WAS IN THE OFFICE AND I TALKED TO THEM ON THE PHONE.

BUDDY JACOBS INDICATED THAT BASICALLY IT WAS ESTABLISHED AT THAT TIME IN LIEU OF SERVICES IT HAPPENS WITH JACK SPORTS AND OTHER PLACES SO HOPEFULLY WE CAN SIT DOWN RECENTLY AND GET THIS DONE

>> SPEAKER: I HAVE A QUESTION COMMISSIONER ROSS SINCE YOU WERE AT THE MEETING.HEN YOU INFORMED THE COMMISSIONERS ABOUT THE COMPLIANCE ISSUES ON THEIR WAREHOUSE, DID THEY GIVE YOU A RESPONSE OR DID THEY SIT THERE SILENTLY?

>> COMMISSIONER ROSS: CRICKETS, AS THEY SAY.

THEY DID NOT SAY A WORD.

SPIRIT OKAY.

>> MS. BACH: I'M HAPPY TO WORK WITH THE CITY MANAGER TO GET A LETTER DONE.

MY NOTE HERE SAYS JUST SO I UNDERSTAND THE TONE WE ARE REMINDING THEM OF THEIR GRANT OF THE REQUIREMENTS UNDER THE GRANT QUALITY CITY PUBLIC ZONING CODE IN THE PROCESS.

>> SPEAKER: AND INVITING THEM AS REQUIRED IN THE GRANT TO COME TALK TO US.

>> MS. BACH: YES.

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GOT IT.

>> MAYOR MILLER: CITY MANAGER REPORTS.

>> SPEAKER: THANK YOU.

START WITH BEACH ISSUES I HAVE DISTRIBUTED TO FOLLOWING THE RECENT PRESENTATION OF SEVERAL FACTORS ABOUT BEACHBEACH WALKOV AND IT SUMMARIZED ABOUT A DOZEN OR MORE POINTS I'M GOING TO ASK THAT YOU REVIEW THAT AND OFFER SOME INSIGHT AS TO WHETHER WE ACCEPT THAT OFFER OR NOT.

WITH REGARD TO ALL OF THE BEACH WALKOVER'S WE ARE PREPARED TO GO OUT FOR BIDS.

THERE'S FOUR INCLUDED IN THIS YEAR'S BUDGET AND WE WILL BE HOPEFULLY PRESENTING ORBIT.

THE INDICATION BIDS FOR DISTRIBUTION LATER THIS WEEK.

SO I DON'T KNOW IF ANY OF YOU HAVE ANY COMMENTS ON THE PROPOSAL FOR THE JUNE WALKOVERS IF YOU WANT TO DISCUSS THAT FURTHER NOW OR IF ANY OF YOU HAVE ANY COMMENTS ON IT.

>> COMMISSIONER LEDNOVICH:

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DALE, DO YOU HAVE A DEADLINE WE NEED OUR FEEDBACK ON THE LINKS BRIDGES?

>> SPEAKER: THERE IS NO DEADLINE PROVIDED IN THE OFFER.

I THINK THAT THEY ARE JUST EXPECTING THE PROMPT RESPONSE.

I DON'T THINK THERE'S THAT.

SO I WOULD SAY CAN AT LEAST LET THEM KNOW THAT I BROUGHT THAT BEFORE YOU AT THIS MEETING AND THAT I CAN HAVE A RESPONSE TO THEM BY FRIDAY, PERHAPS, IF YOU WANT.

>> SPEAKER: THAT'S WHAT I'M ASKING.

LET'S GIVE ME YOUR COMMENTS NO LATER THAN THURSDAY NIGHT WILL PROVIDE A RESPONSE TO THEM AND I WILL WORK WITH THE CITY ATTORNEY ON HOW TO APPROPRIATELY RESPOND ON FRIDAY.

>> SPEAKER: THANK YOU.

>> COMMISSIONER KREGER: I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY UNDERSTAND THAT THIS HAS TO BE PERMITTED AND IMPROVED.

AND, YOU KNOW, I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT'S THE CASE.

I AM NOT A BIG FAN OF THE BRIDGE DESIGN I DON'T THINK IT'S COMPATIBLE WITH THE GOALS EVEN THE MATERIALS OR DESIGN.

IF IT IS, FINE, BUT I THINK THEY NEED TO DO ãTHEY HAVE NOT BUILT A WALKOVER IN THE STATE OF FLORIDA.

I WANT TO BE CAREFUL.

COMMENT ON WE NEED TO GO OUT AND BED AND AS DALE SAID MY COMMENTS ABOUT THE LEGISLATIVE REQUIREMENTS AND DISCUSSION THAT WAS MADE ABOUT THEM.

BUT WITH ANYBODY, THEY HAVE TO MEET -THEY HAVE TO BE ENGINEERED AND MEET STATE REQUIREMENTS.

>> SPEAKER: ACTUALLY, WHEN YOU GET A CHANCE - ABOUT THE SIX OR SO BULLET POINT DOWN, IT DOES SAY WE WILL COMPLETE THE DEMONSTRATION WALKOVER WITHIN 60 DAYS.

THE SCHEDULE IS BASED ON THE ASSUMPTION THAT REQUIRED PERMITS CAN BE OBTAINED.O THEY ARE AWARE THEY ARE GOING TO HAVE TO GET THE PERMITS.

>> MAYOR MILLER: VICE MAYOR?

>> COMMISSIONER KREGER: AND CITY MANAGER ON THAT PARAGRAPH YOU JUST READ, I AM A LITTLE UNCLEAR AS TO THE IMPLICATIONS AND MEANING OF IT WHERE IT SAYS WITHIN 60 DAYS OF COMPLETION, OF THE DEMONSTRATION MODEL, LINKS BRIDGES WILL MAKE A FORMAL OFFER FOR THE CITY TO EITHER ACQUIRE OWNERSHIP OF THE MODEL FOR TWO EXTENDED AS REQUIRED TO CONFORM TO THE LONG-TERM DO RESTORATION PLANS.

THAT SOUNDS VERY FUZZY TO ME AS TO WHAT WE ARE SIGNING UP FOR.

SO IF YOU COULD EXTRACT A BIT MORE INFORMATION FROM ONNET CALLS THAT WOULD BE VERY HELPFUL.

THANK YOU.

>> SPEAKER: I ALSO FORWARDED YOU YESTERDAY A DRAFT RFP PREPARED BY THE COUNTY FOR CLEANING SERVICES.

THEY ARE INTENDING TO PUBLISH THAT ARE IN P THIS WEEK.

I ASKED FOR YOU TO HAVE A CHANCE TO REVIEW.

VICE MAYOR KRIEGER HAS PROVIDED ME COMMENTS.

MR. COMMENTS AS WELL.

IF YOU HAVE ADDITIONAL COMMENTS THE COUNTY HAS REQUESTED A PHONE CONFERENCE TO DISCUSS SOME COMMENTS THAT HAVE BEEN SUBMITTED SO FAR.

AGAIN, IF YOU HAVE ADDITIONAL COMMENTS THAT KEY POINTS BUT I THINK NEED TO BE BROUGHT TO YOUR ATTENTION ARE DURING WHAT THEY DEFINED AS PEAK SEASON, IT IS DAILY CLEANING DURING WHAT THEY DEFINE AS OFF-SEASON, WHICH AGAIN, I BELIEVE IS OCTOBER THROUGH MARCH.

IT'S CLEANING THE BEACHES ONLY TWICE A WEEK.

AND I THINK THAT IS THE KEY DIFFERENCE IN THE LEVEL OF SERVICE THAT WE CURRENTLY PROVIDE AT OUR COST.

THIS ENTIRE PROPOSAL AS PRESENTED WOULD BE FUNDED BY THE TOURIST DEVELOPMENT COUNCIL.

SO WE ARE ATTEMPTING TO WORK TOGETHER AND THE COUNTY IS TAKING THE LEAD ON THIS, SO WE DO HAVE THE DRAFT RFP AND IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS PLEASE LET ME KNOW AND I CAN AT LEAST FOR THOSE OR SHARE THIS WITH COUNTY OFFICIALS.

>> SPEAKER: WE WILL MAKE 8:00.

WE WILL MAKE 8:00.

I HAVE ONE COMMENT.

I JUST READ THIS MONTH'S THIS EVENING.

THIS WHOLE THING IS THE COUNTY IS NOW GOING TO CONTROL OUR BEACHES WITH THIS BECAUSE IT'S THE COUNTY IF YOU GO AND REDO THIS DOCUMENT, EVERY TIME IT SAYS THE COUNTY WILL DO THIS, THE COUNTY WILL DO THIS, ABOUT

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THE WHOLE TONE OF THIS DOCUMENT IS THEY ARE GOING TO CONTROL WHAT HAPPENS WITH THIS IN THE CITY AS OPPOSED TO THE CITY AND THE COUNTY.

AND SO THIS IS THEM TAKING CONTROL OF OUR BEACHES AND WATERWAYS.

SO THAT'S ONE THING.

THE SECOND THING IS IF YOU LOOK AT THE TIMES ON THIS, YOU CAN'T POSSIBLY GO THROUGH THIS CONTRACT BECAUSE IT SAYS - I'M READING IT, THEY HAVE TO HAVE IT DONE BY 6:00 A.M. ON THE MORNING OF, BUT YOU HAVE TO DO IT DURING DAYLIGHT.

SO THAT MAKES ABSOLUTELY NO SENSE.

AND THEN THE DEBRIS THEY WILL PICK UP THEY WILL PICK UP ALL THE PEBBLES ON THE BEACH.

I MEAN, THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS THAT IT SAYS AND YOU WILL ALSO BE PICKING UP SEAWEED.

AND I WILL GO BACK TO IT IN MY INDIVIDUAL COMMENTS BUT I THINK THIS IS VERY IMPORTANT.

>> SPEAKER: AS WELL AS HE POINTED OUT THE CITY SHOULD BE REMOVED BUT THEN SAYS IS PROHIBITED FROM SEAWEED.

>> SPEAKER: WE HAVE HAD A DISCUSSION.

>> SPEAKER: THEY WERE SPECIFIC.

WHAT THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT IS THE REMOVAL OF SARCASM WHICH YOU CAN'T REMOVE BUT WHEN YOU GO IT WAS VERY SPECIFIC ABOUT THERE ARE LOTS OF ISSUES I THINK THE KEY ISSUE IS NOT TWICE A WEEK IS NOT GOING TO MAKE IT DURING OFF-SEASON PARTICULARLY FOR BEACH PARKS.

EVEN SCARIER BECAUSE THEY CAN'T GO ON THE BEACH DURING SEA TURTLE SEASON UNTIL AFTER THE SEA TURTLES SURVEYS ARE DONE, WHICH THERE IS ABOUT 20 OF THEM.

IT WILL BE INTERESTING BUT I THINK WE CAN WORK WITH THEM AND GET THIS DONE A BIG PROBLEM WHICH I REALLY DIDN'T ADDRESS YET IS THAT THE WHOLE LEAVE NO TRACE, THE WHOLE CONCEPT WAS TO TAKE PERSONAL CHAIRS OFF THE BEACH OVERNIGHT WAS TO GET THEM OFF THE BEACH AT NIGHT, PULLING THEM OFF THE BEACH AT SIX IN THE MORNING MAKES ZERO CENTS.

IT IS NOT WHAT THE INTENT OF THAT PROCESS WAS, BUT WE WILL GET WITH THAT.

>> COMMISSIONER ROSS: THIS CONTRACT ALSO TALKS ABOUT FOR THE COUNTY THAT THEY WILL EMPTY YOUR TRASH CANS ON THE BEACH AND IF THEY ARE GOING TO EMPTY THEIR TRASH CANS ON THE BEACH I THINK WE SHOULD PUT IN A SEPARATE REQUEST THAT HE IS VERY NICELY INDEED OUR TRASHCAN.

>> I PROVIDED YOU COPIES OF THE MONTHLY REPORTS.

THROUGH THE GRACIOUSNESS OF THE COUNCIL.

SIX WEEKLY SESSIONS THAT THE LAST THREE WEDNESDAYS IN OCTOBER AND THE FIRST THREE IN NOVEMBER.

THIS IS THE FIRST TIME I WILL BE OFFERING THEM IN THE EVENING TO ENCOURAGE SO THE CLASSES WILL BE TAUGHT FROM 7:54 PM YOU HAVE TO REGISTER THE COUNCIL ON AGING.

I BELIEVE ãCLASS SIZE FROM 15 TO FOSTER SMALL DISCUSSIONS.

I THINK THERE MIGHT BE SOME SEATS REMAINING AVAILABLE.

PLEASE VISIT THE WEBSITE AND IS LISTED IN THEIR SENIOR LIVING MAGAZINE ON PAGE 21.

THURSDAY NIGHT I INTEND THINK OF CITIES MONTHLY MEETING ST.

AUGUSTINE BEACH THE SPEED.

I WILL FILE A FORMAL RESPONSE FOR THE MOST RECENT FEMA REQUESTS AND YOU WERE PROVIDED A COPY AFTER YOUR EMAIL TODAY SO WE WILL KEEP OUR FLIGHT GOING WITH FEMA.

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THAT'S ALL THAT I HAVE PENDING ANY QUESTIONS.

>> MAYOR MILLER: THANK YOU, SIR.

CITY ATTORNEY?

>> MS. BACH: I WOULD LIKE TO ANNOUNCE THAT THE SECOND CHART REVIEW COMMITTEE MEETING WILL BE NEXT TUESDAY, OCTOBER 22 AND IT STARTS AT 3:00 P.M. AND THAT MEETING WOULD BE A GOOD ONE IF YOU WANT TO ATTEND THAT.

YOU WILL HAVE LYNN TIPTON FROM THE FLORIDA LEAGUE OF CITIES AND THAT WILL GO OVER A POWERPOINT PRESENTATION THAT YOU DO FOR CITIES AROUND THE STATE GOING TO THE PROCESS TO TALK ABOUT - TO TALK ABOUT TRENDS AND CHARTERS AND WHAT CHARTERS DO YOU TELL US A LITTLE BIT ABOUT HER EXPERTISE.

IN ADDITION TO THAT, WE HAVE INVITED THE SUM OF THE MEMBERS OF THE 2007 CHARTER REVIEW COMMITTEE TO ANSWER QUESTIONS AND TELL US ABOUT THEIR EXPERIENCE.

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SO SUE AND WILL BE THERE, AMY BRIAN, AND JERRY WILL BE THERE TO ANSWER QUESTIONS FROM THE CHARTER REVIEW COMMITTEE.

AND WE WILL NOT HAVE ANY BOATENG THAT EVENING ALTHOUGH I BELIEVE THERE'S A PUBLIC COMMENT PORTION OF OUR AGENDA.

THE AGENDA WENT OUT TODAY.

AND THE OTHER IS TO LET YOU KNOW BECAUSE I SAID THAT I WOULD BE BRINGING A RESOLUTION REGARDING THE PARKS AND RECREATION ADVISORY COMMITTEE BECAUSE THEY HAD PROBLEMS OR HAVE HAD PROBLEMS HAVING A QUORUM PRESENT AT THEIR MEETINGS.

MY UNDERSTANDING AS TODAY IN TALKING WITH COMMISSIONER ROSS HE THINKS WE DON'T HAVE AN ISSUE.

I HAVEN'T REALLY HEARD ANY ISSUES THE DEPARTMENT DIRECTOR, SO THERE'S NO REASON TO REDUCE THEIR MEMBERSHIP IF YOU HAVE MEMBERS ATTENDING MEETINGS.

IT'S NOT COMING BACK UNLESS YOU ALL THE DIRECT ME TO DO THAT.

AT LEAST NOT ANYTIME SOON.

>> SPEAKER: ABOUT IT TALK TO HER RECENTLY THAT SAID THEY ARE HAVING A HARD TIME ãI THINK THEY SAID SHE MENTIONED THE YOUTH PROGRAM AND THE YOUTH HAD NEVER REALLY SHOWED UP SO IT'S HARD TO GET YOU MIGHT WANT TO TOUCH BASE.

>> MS. BACH: WE HAVE PEOPLE THAT HAVE SINCE VOLUNTEERED AND PUT IN APPLICATIONS SO IT LOOKS LIKE PROBLEM SOLVED FOR NOW.

>> SPEAKER: IF I CAN ADD I'M ALSO WORKING WITH MS. BOYD AND I WORK WITH PARKS AND RUG ADVISORY COMMITTEE ACTUALLY MOVING THE MEETING TO 6:00.

THE MEETINGS ARE CURRENTLY SCHEDULED AT 4:00 SO JUST LIKE WITH THE GOVERNMENT ACADEMY OF HAVING AN EVENING MEETING MAY MAKE IT MORE EASY FOR PEOPLE PARTICIPATING INSTEAD OF MEETING THAT PRECLUDES PEOPLE THAT ARE IN THE TYPICAL WORK HOUR ENVIRONMENT.

WE WILL SEE HOW THAT GOES.

>> SPEAKER: I JUST COULD YOU GIVE ME AN UPDATE ON AMELIA BLUFF AND THE SITE INSPECTION FOR VIOLATION OF THE TREE ORDINANCE?

>> MS. BACH: YES.

AS OF RIGHT NOW IT'S THE SAME AS WHAT WE'VE DONE BEFORE AND I HAVE ONE MORE EMAIL COMMUNICATION WITH PLANNING AND CONSERVATION, AND IT'S WITH DAVE HOLLY THE ARBORIST.

AS FAR AS I KNOW, WE HAVE NOT GOTTEN PERMISSION FROM THE ATTORNEY OR FROM THE DEVELOPER, SO AS FAR AS I'M CONCERNED THAT'S A NO.

UP UNTIL NOW AND OUR STAFF HAS WITNESSED FROM RIGHT-OF-WAY WHAT THEY THINK IS THE REMOVAL OF FOUR TREES AT THE SOUTHERN ENTRANCE.

I BELIEVE THERE'S TWO ENTRANCES AND ONE ON THE CELL.

FOUR TREES WERE SUPPOSED TO BE RETAINED AND THEY DON'T LOOK LIKE THEY ARE THERE ANYMORE.

>> SPEAKER: OKAY.

SO MY QUESTION IS WE HAVE A TREE ORDINANCE.

THEY ILLEGALLY REMOVED TREES.

HEY ARE DENYING US ACCESS TO THE PROPERTY FOR US TO VERIFY THE VIOLATION OF THE TREE ORDINANCE.

WHAT IS OUR NEXT STEP TO COMPEL THEM TO ALLOW US ON THE PROPERTY TO VERIFY VIOLATION?

>> MS. BACH: THERE IS A ãTHERE IS AN INSPECTION WORK PROCESS I DON'T THINK THE COURT WILL GRANT THAT FOR THIS.

WHAT WE DO IS WE CAN HAVE THE CODE ENFORCEMENT DEPARTMENT GO AHEAD AND THEY CAN USE WITNESSES THEY HAVE FOR MR. HOLLY AND YOU CAN START A CODE ENFORCEMENT CASE.

>> SPEAKER: AND WHO INSTRUCTS CODE ENFORCEMENT TO DO IT.

>> MS. BACH: THE CITY MANAGER.

>> SPEAKER: WILL YOU PLEASE PROCEED WITH THAT? THANK YOU.

AND YOU ARE AWARE OF THE WITNESSES WHO TESTIFY IN THE HEARING? OF THE VIOLATION?

>> SPEAKER: CORRECT.

>> SPEAKER: AND I BELIEVE THEY HAVE PHOTOS.

>> MS. BACH: AND JUST A SORT OF SEGWAY FOR, YOU HAD ASKED FOR MY DEPARTMENT TO LOOK AT TREE ORDINANCES AROUND THE STATE? AND I HAVE YET TO GET WITH DOCTOR MCPHILLIPS ABOUT SHE MAY HAVE SOME, BUT IT REALLY LOOKS LIKE, I MEAN, WITH A FEW EXCEPTIONS AND TWEAKS TO THE CITY'S ORDINANCE THAT OUR CITY ORDINANCE IS PRETTY GOOD.

I MEAN WE CAN GIVE YOU SOME OF THE OTHER GOOD ONES.

I DON'T SAY PRETTY GOOD.

IT'S A GOOD TREE ORDINANCE WHEN YOU COMPARE IT TO OTHER FLORIDA CITIES.

THAT DOESN'T MEAN THAT WE ACCEPT THAT AS THE BEST.

BUT I'M JUST LETTING YOU KNOW THAT IT'S NOT EASY TO SAY FERNANDINA BEACH DOES HORRIBLE AND WE'RE JUST GOING TO GRAB THIS GOLDEN TREE ORDINANCE.

IT'S NOT EASY TO FIND SO WE ARE GOING TO HAVE TO WORK SOME OTHER PROVISIONS INTO OUR ORDINANCE AND WE ARE WORKING ON THAT.

>> SPEAKER: THANK YOU.

>> MS. BACH: WITH REGARD TO AMELIA BLUFF AND JUST IN GENERAL THERE'S A QUARTERLY

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NEGATION REPORT THAT I PRESENT TO YOU ALL OCTOBER 1 WOULD HAVE BEEN THE DUE DATE FOR THAT AND WE HAVE HAD SOME TROUBLE WITH ONE OF THE DEFENSE LAW FIRMS UPDATING US ON CASES.

THEY HAVE THREE ãI SAY SMALL, THE DAMAGES ARE SMALL, THREE TRIP AND FALL TYPE CASES.

THEY WERE HANDLING AND I SPOKE TODAY WITH OUR INSURANCE COMPANY AND WE ARE GOING TO TRANSFER THOSE CASES TO THE OTHER INSURANCE COMPANY BECAUSE I HAVE NOT GOTTEN ANY UPDATES.

IT'S NOT LATE, BUT SO I WILL GET YOU THAT THE FIRST OF NOVEMBER, BY 5 NOVEMBER MEETING.

WE HAVE NOT RECEIVED AN ORDER FROM THE STATE YET.

THEY REALLY HAVE UNTIL THE END OF THE MONTH.

THEY HAVE 30 DAYS FROM WHEN THE JUDGE ISSUED THE ORDER, THEIR FINAL RECOMMENDED ORDER.

>> SPEAKER: WHEN CAN THEY RESUME?

>> MS. BACH: THAT'S UP TO THEM.

I'M NOT GOING TO ADVISE THEM, BUT LATELY THERE IS A 30 DAY APPEAL.

JUST CIRCUIT COURT AFTER WE HAVE RECEIVED THE DEPARTMENT OF THE ECONOMIC OPPORTUNITIES FINAL WORD.

THUS CONSIDERED THE FINAL WORD THE ADMINISTRATIVE PROCESS.

AS A 30 DAY PERIOD AFTER THAT.

SO I WOULD SAY ROUGHLY END OF NOVEMBER.

THEY COULD RESUME IT IF EVERYTHING GOES AWAY.

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SEND THAT'S ALL I HAVE.

SPEAKING CITY CLERK?

>> SPEAKER: NOTHING TO REPORT.

>> MAYOR MILLER: COMMISSIONER ROSS?

>> COMMISSIONER ROSS: I HAVE TWO COMMENTS.

FIRST IS UNLIKE YOU THINK THE CITY ATTORNEY'S FOR BRINGING TO OUR ATTENTION, I BELIEVE IT WAS AT THE LAST MEETING, MAYBE THE MEETING BEFORE, THAT THEY ARE ALSO MUCH FUN THEY RUN TOGETHER.

THE ISSUE WE DIDN'T HAVE TO ANNEX THE PROPERTY INTO THE CITY BECAUSE THAT PART OF SOME INTERESTING QUESTIONS I HAVE BEEN LOOKING INTO IT SO I WANTED TO THANK HER FOR BRINGING THAT TO OUR ATTENTION SO WE JUST ASK THAT SO THANK YOU.

SO THE SECOND THING IS THAT WHEN THE CITY CLERK ADJOURNS NEXT WEEK I WILL BE FILING TO RUN AGAIN

>> SPEAKER: THANK YOU.

I SHOULD'VE ANNOUNCED THAT YOU WERE HERE TONIGHT.

>> COMMISSIONER CHAPMAN: SEVERAL THINGS.

FIRST, TO ALL THE CITY RESIDENTS WHO ARE UPSET OVER THE SIGNS DOWNTOWN BECAUSE THEY CAN'T READ THEM FROM THEIR CAR, THEY ARE NOT DESIGNED TO BE READ FROM YOUR CAR.

IT'S OUR MOVE TO TRY TO MAKE THE CITY MORE WALKABLE.

I'VE HAD SEVERAL CITIZENS CONFRONT ME ABOUT THEY CAN'T SAY THEM AS THEY DRIVE BY.

THAT'S THE POINT.

THEY HAD A HUG REMINDED PEOPLE SAMPLES OF THESE SAT IN THESE CHAMBERS FOR A LONG TIME.

THERE WERE SEVERAL HEARINGS ABOUT THEM.

SO BASICALLY, LEARN TO LOVE THEM BECAUSE I THINK THEY HELP THE CITY THEY REALLY DRESS IT UP.

SECOND ITEM I WOULD LIKE - I WOULD LIKE TO THANK OUR FIRE DEPARTMENT.

WE HAD TWO FIRES IN THE CITY, AND THEY DID AN EXCELLENT JOB EXTINGUISHING THEM, AND WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT HOW WELL THE WHOLE SYSTEM WORKS, THEY ARE CERTAINLY WELL WITH OUR TAX DOLLARS, IN MY OPINION.

ON A GOOD NOTE, BUDDY JACOBS, OUR LOBBYIST WAS INDUCTED INTO THE HIGH SCHOOL HALL OF FAME AT THE FOOTBALL GAME.

HE CAME DRESSED DAPPER AS ALWAYS, BUDDY IS QUITE THE PERSON THAT I SAID TO HIM IF THERE WAS A CITY HALL OF FAME HE PROBABLY WOULD BE AMONG THE FIRST INDUCTEES.

I HAD THE PLEASURE SATURDAY OF GOING TO THE CAPITAL STREET LITTLE LEAGUE.

THEY HONORED ME WITH ALLOWING ME TO THROW OUT THE FIRST PITCH AND FORTUNATELY I DID NOT KILL ANYBODY BUT THOSE GIRLS DESERVE A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF CREDIT.

THEY ARE JUST GREAT ATHLETES WHO REALLY LIKED TO PLAY THEIR HEARTS OUT, THEY DO NEED HELP, SO IF YOU ARE GOOD AT COACHING LITTLE LEAGUE, I SAID TO THEM, I WOULD LOVE TO COACH BUT I CAN'T THE BROAD SIDE OF A BARN WITH A BAT SO I'M NOT THE BEST ONE.

BUT THAT WAS QUITE AN HONOR.

I WOULD LIKE TO REMIND ALL MY FELLOW COMMISSIONERS THAT WE DO HAVE A SUBMISSION DEADLINE FOR SUPPLEMENTAL INFORMATION.

THE DEADLINE IS THE FRIDAY BEFORE THE MEETING.

INFORMATION THAT COMES TO US A DAY OR TWO BEFORE A MEETING DOES NOT GIVE US SUFFICIENT TIME TO REVIEW IT AND RESPOND TO IT.

WE PASSED THAT RECOMMENDATION

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ORDINANCE, WHATEVER IT WAS, AT 5:00 THE FRIDAY BEFORE, AND I WOULD EXPECT ALL COMMISSIONERS TO ABIDE BY THE.

MEDIA PEOPLE, PLEASE CHECK YOUR FACTS BEFORE YOU POST.

WHEN IT WAS ON THE AGENDA THAT THE NAVY WAS ASKING TO MOVE THOSE METERS, THERE WERE ALL KINDS OF POSTS.

I HAVE WISHED THAT I COULD BE ON SOCIAL MEDIA BECAUSE JUST TO WATCH THE REACTION.

I WAS GOING TO POST PUBLIX IS RUNNING OUT OF ALUMINUM FOIL.

COVER YOUR WINDOWS.

YOU BETTER GET THERE QUICK.

FIND OUT THE FACTS.

AND THE HIGHLIGHT TO ME IS THERE WAS THIS EXTREMELY ANGRY POST ON SOCIAL MEDIA ABOUT TIM POINTER CUTTING DOWN A TREE FROM HIS GOLF COURSE.

THE ONLY PROBLEM IS, HE BUILT THE TREE STOP.

AS PART OF THE PART OF THE WHOLE.

MAKE SURE YOUR FACTS ARE 100 PERCENT ACCURATE BEFORE YOU POST ON SOCIAL MEDIA.

YOU ARE TRYING TO SAY THAT A HOLE ON A GOLF COURSE IS A COUNTRY, I WOULD THINK THAT WOULD BE EMBARRASSING.

>> SPEAKER: AND I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING.

>> SPEAKER: ONLY DATE OF OCTOBER MYSELF AND CHIP ATTENDED THE DEDICATION OF THE LIBRARY AND ON THE NIGHT, I ATTENDED THE DELEGATION WHERE WE SUBMITTED OUR FUNDING REQUEST FOR NEXT YEAR WHICH WERE $500,000 FOR 10 WALK-THROUGHS TO BE CONVERTED AND WILL COVERS TO BE MATCHED WITH THE IMPACT FUNDS AND $50,000 FOR A STORMWATER PROJECT TO BE MATCHED.

WE ALSO DISCUSSED THE RESCINDING OF STATE LAW 67 WHICH IS A DONATION OF PROPERTY.

WHICH BOTH OF OUR LEGISLATORS FELT WAS APPROPRIATE THIS YEAR AND WERE NOT ADVERSE TO PUTTING IT IN AGAIN.

ONE OF THE QUESTIONS ASKED BY SENATOR BEAM IN THIS KIND OF GOES WITH MAKING SURE WE SPEND MONEY WAS HOW ARE YOU DOING ON THE WALKOVERS FROM LAST YEAR?

>> WE ARE DOING WELL BECAUSE WE GET TO THEM UNTIL AFTER TURTLE SEASON, 1 OCTOBER.

THE POINT BEING WE NEED TO STAY ON TOPIC AND SPEND THIS MONEY THEY ARE KILLING US.

AND CONGRATULATIONS TO CHIP AND MR. PHILLIPS.

>> MAYOR MILLER: THANK YOU, SIR.

I WAS TALKING ABOUT THIS EARLIER THAT CINDY JACKSON HAD ISSUES WITH THE SHE SAID SHE SAW SOMETHING STARTED CONSTRUCTION.

>> SPEAKER: THEY STARTED CONSTRUCTION AND LEFT IT THERE AND IT'S BEEN THERE FOR A LONG TIME.

IT'S A HAZARD.

IT MAKES US LOOK REALLY GOOD.

>> MAYOR MILLER: I JUST DIDN'T KNOW - IT SHOWED UP WALKOVER THAT WAS FALLING APART.

>> SPEAKER: THEY ACTUALLY SAID THEY WERE WALKING TO THE DUNES AND THAT WAS ILLEGAL.

YOU CAN WALK TO THE DUNES CONTROL WAS.

I THOUGHT THAT WAS INTERESTING.

>> MAYOR MILLER: I FIGURED YOU HAD SEEN THAT.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

AND SO SATURDAY, I WILL BE DOING A FUNDRAISER FOR OCTOBER IS BREAST CANCER AWARENESS MONTH.

SEVERAL LOCAL BUSINESSES GET INVOLVED IN THIS.

THE FIRE AND POLICE DEPARTMENTS DO AS WELL.

I WILL BE IN A DUNK TAKE IF YOU ARE INTERESTED ON THE BEACH ON SATURDAY.

IT IS WHAT IT IS.

AND THEN THIS IS GREAT.

ON NOVEMBER 2 AND THIRD FOR THE FIRST TIME THE NORTH ATLANTIC RIGHT WALL FESTIVAL IS COMING TO FERNANDINA BEACH WHICH IS A BIG DEAL.

THIS IS ANOTHER FESTIVAL.

THIS IS GOING ON IN JACKSONVILLE BEACH FOR THE PAST 10 YEARS AND ESSENTIALLY IT WAS ONE DAY.

THEY REALLY WANTED TO MAKE IT INTO TO AND I ATTENDED EVERY YEAR SO I GOT MR. LANGLEY INVOLVED AND BECAME A TWO-DAY EVENT THAT WAS VERY EXCITING BECAUSE HE LIKES TO BUTTHEAD SO THEY GOT INVOLVED A MAN A COUPLE OF MEETINGS AND COMMISSIONER ROSS IS PIVOTAL IN GETTING SOME OF THE INFORMATION TO THE GDC AS WELL.

AND FOR THE FIRST TIME IT'S GOING TO BE HERE IN FERNANDINA BEACH ON NOVEMBER 2 AND THIRD WHICH IS EXCITING.

IT'S VERY EDUCATIONAL EXPERIENCE FOR THE WHOLE FAMILY.

AND I THINK THAT IS

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.