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>> GOOD EVENING, FOLKS, AND WELCOME TO OCTOBER 21ST COMMUNITY REDEVELOP AND AGENCY REGULAR MEETING. PLEASE CALL THE
>> COMMISSIONER TUTEN? >> HERE. TREND 25
>> HERE. >> COMMISSIONER MINSHEW?
>> HERE. >> AND PLEASE STAND FOR THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE, LED BY COMMISSIONER TUTEN .
>>I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS ONE NATION UNDER GOD INDIVISIBLE WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.
>> YOU MAY BE SEATED. ALL RIGHT, FOLKS, TONIGHT WE HAVE TWO PRESENTATIONS AHEAD OF US. WE HAVE A COMMUNITY REDEVELOPMENT
[4.1 COMMUNITY REDEVELOPMENT AREA - STORY MAP — Synopsis: Downtown District Manager Lisa Finkelstein will provide a Community Redevelopment Area story map presentation.]
AREA STORY MAP, THEN A PROPERTY MATRIX THAT HINKLE STEIN WILL BE TAKING US THROUGH A PRESENTATION JUST TO GIVE US AN IDEA OF WHAT'S GOING ON IN THE CRA. TAKE IT AWAY.>> THANK YOU. THANK YOU. GOOD EVENING. GOOD TO SEE YOU WHILE.
SO ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON WITH STAFF IS THE, THE CRA STORY MAP, AND THE IDEA HERE IS THAT THIS IS A WAY TO COMMUNICATE WITH THE PUBLIC AND WITH STAFF AND OTHERS THROUGH MAPS AND TEXT AND IMAGES AND ALL SORTS OF THINGS. SO IT'S A MUCH MORE INTERACTIVE WAY TO COMMUNICATE ONLINE.. SO WE STARTED WITH THE CRA. THAT WAS THE FIRST KIND OF TEST CASE THAT WE'VE HAD. AND REALLY, THE PURPOSES FOR DOING THIS WERE TO BE ABLE TO VISUALIZE THINGS A LITTLE BIT MORE, TO SHOW THINGS LIKE ZONING AND EVERYTHING ON THE MAPS TO ENGAGE THE PUBLIC TO SUPPORT ANY DECISION-MAKING THAT WE WOULD MAKE, AND THEN TO DOCUMENT PROGRESS ON OUR PROJECTS. SO I AM PRESENTING TONIGHT, BUT I'M PRESENTING IN LIEU OF MIA SADLER, WHO WAS ONE OF OUR PLANNERS FROM OUR PLANNING AND CONSERVATION DEPARTMENT. SHE IS THE MASTERMIND BEHIND THIS, BUT WE'VE ALL CONTRIBUTED TO THE CONTENT. BUT SHE IS, SHE'S OUT OF THE OFFICE TODAY, SO I AM DOING THIS. SO I JUST WANT TO, WOULD LIKE TO WALK YOU THROUGH THE HIGHLIGHTS, AND THEN THIS IS NOT ON OUR WEBSITE YET, BUT THE IDEA IS THAT THIS WOULD REPLACE A LOT OF THE CONTENT THAT'S CURRENTLY ON OUR CRA PAGE ON OUR WEBSITE. IT'S JUST, YOU'LL SEE MUCH MORE INTERACTIVE THAN WHAT IS NORMALLY ON THE WEBSITE. SO WE START WITH AN INTRODUCTION AND INFORMATION ABOUT WHAT A CRA IS, TO GIVE PEOPLE THAT. AGAIN, YOU KNOW, THE THINGS THAT YOU MIGHT NEED TO KNOW A LITTLE BIT OF SUMMARY INFORMATION AND THEN LINKS TO MORE DETAILS. AND, YOU KNOW, HERE, FOR INSTANCE, IS , WE HAVE A LITTLE JUMP IN HERE, SO LIKE I SAID, THIS IS A PROTOTYPE. STILL NOT QUITE REFINED. BUT WHEN WE GO BACK UP HERE, THE, THE TAX INCREMENT FINANCING, WHICH IS A, A REAL BENEFIT OF THE CRA, IS EXPLAINED HERE SO THAT PEOPLE CAN UNDERSTAND WHAT, YOU KNOW, WHAT IS THE PURPOSE OF HAVING THE CRA. AND THEN WE GO INTO THE HISTORY OF THE, THE NEED FOR THE CRA, AND THIS IS REALLY THE INFORMATION THAT'S TAKEN FROM THE FINDING OF NECESSITY, WHICH WAS DONE BACK IN 2004. THE STUDY OF THE AREA, THE DETERMINATION THAT IT COULD BE DESIGNATED AS A CRA, AND WHAT THE ISSUES WERE WITHIN THE CRA. SO YOU CAN SEE, YOU KNOW, SOME OF THOSE THINGS THAT WERE STILL DEALING WITH TODAY. AND THEN WHERE IS THE CRA? SO THIS IS THE MAP. THE MAP IS INTERACTIVE IN THAT YOU CAN BLOW IT UP, YOU CAN MOVE IT AROUND, YOU KNOW, YOU CAN, AND LOOK AT IT IN DIFFERENT WAYS, BUT THIS SHOWS ALL OF THE PARCELS WITHIN THE, WITHIN THE CRA BOUNDARIES. AND THEN AS WE MOVE DOWN, WE HAVE A, ANOTHER MAP. THIS ONE IS REALLY FOCUSED ON THE ZONING. SO AGAIN, INTERACTIVE IN THAT YOU CAN BLOW IT UP AND YOU CAN SEE AT A VERY QUICK GLANCE WHAT EVERYTHING IS, YOU KNOW, EACH PARCEL IS ZONED, AND VERY EASY TO FIND THINGS HERE. AND AS WE MOVE DOWN, AND THIS ONE IS REALLY COOL. SO THIS IS ANOTHER MAP SHOWING PROJECTS. AND THIS ONE CAN BE UPDATED AND CHANGED CONTINUALLY. AND AS YOU SCROLL DOWN TO LOOK AT THE PROJECTS, THERE'S A LITTLE BIT OF INFORMATION ABOUT EACH PROJECT, AND THEN THE MAP WILL SHIFT AUTOMATICALLY TO WHERE THAT PROJECT IS. SO, FOR INSTANCE, NUMBER TWO ON THE MAP
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EQUATES TO NUMBER TWO HERE , AND IT GIVES YOU A LITTLE BIT OF INFORMATION ABOUT WHAT THAT PROJECT WAS. SO THESE ARE THE TOWNHOUSES THAT ARE LOCATED RIGHT BEHIND US, AND THEN AS YOU GO THROUGH, YOU CAN SEE ADDITIONAL PROJECTS, AND THE MAP WILL MOVE WITH YOU. YOU CAN READ ABOUT IT AND SEE WHAT HAS ACTUALLY HAPPENED IN THE CRA, OR WHAT IS CURRENTLY HAPPENING NOW.AND THE, IT'S QUITE EXTENSIVE HERE. AND THEN WE CAN FILL IN WITH EVEN ADDITIONAL INFORMATION. WE CAN -- GOOD EXAMPLE OF THAT. HAS A LITTLE BIT OF HISTORY ABOUT THIS BUILDING, INCLUDED, AND THEN IT TALKS ABOUT THE FACT THAT THIS PROJECT TO, TO HELP RESTORE THE BUILDING OR REHABILITATE THE BUILDING WAS THE RECIPIENT OF THE FIRST MAIN STREET GRANT, AND THEN, YOU KNOW, TALKS ABOUT THE HERITAGE OF THE, OF THAT STRUCTURE. WE'VE EVEN GOT HISTORICAL MARKER ON HERE, SO REALLY EXCITING, AND, YOU KNOW, AND A GREAT PLACE TO LOOK TO SEE THE, TO SEE THE DIFFERENT PROJECTS. SO THEN , THIS IS CHANGES OVER TIME, AND AGAIN, WE CAN, YOU KNOW, WE'LL CONTINUE TO MODIFY AND UPDATE THIS. SO IF YOU LOOK AT THIS, IF WE GO THIS WAY, IF WE SLIDE IT THIS WAY, WE SEE A LOT SHE WAS STREET, WHERE IT NOW CROSSES OVER THE RAILROAD TRACKS, AND THAT IF WE SLIDE BACK THE OTHER WAY, YOU CAN SEE THE PROJECT THAT'S COMPLETE AS IT STANDS NOW. SO A REALLY NEAT, YOU KNOW, WAY TO, TO HAVE A GLIMPSE IN TIME OF HOW THINGS HAVE CHANGED. THE SAME WITH THIS. THIS IS THE WATERFRONT PARK. SO WE HAVE THE PARK PRIOR TO CONSTRUCTION STARTING, AND NOW WE HAVE IT IN PROGRESS, AND YOU CAN SEE THAT AS WELL. SO THEN AFTER THAT, WE GO DOWN, REALLY, INTO THE, AGAIN, THE, THE THINGS THAT ARE CONTAINED IN THE CRA PLAN. SO THIS IS YOUR TYPICAL SWAT ANALYSIS OF THE STRENGTHS, WEAKNESSES, OPPORTUNITIES, AND THREATS, AND THEN THE PATHWAYS TO ACHIEVE GOALS. THESE ARE TAKEN DIRECTLY FROM THAT OBJECTIVE AND STRATEGIES DOCUMENT THAT WE BROUGHT TO YOU TO REVIEW BACK IN JANUARY OF THIS YEAR. THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT CAME OUT OF THE CRA ADVISORY BOARD AS PART OF AN UPDATE TO THE CRA PLAN. SO THIS TALKS ABOUT RESILIENCY, IT TALKS ABOUT, YOU KNOW, ALL OF THE DIFFERENT ELEMENTS OF THE WATERFRONT AND THE CRA AND WHAT THE GOALS ARE AND THE VISION.
AND THEN, REALLY, SOME RESOURCES. A LOT OF DIFFERENT LINKS LIKE YOU WOULD NORMALLY FIND ON THE WEBSITE NOW. SOTHIS IS, LIKE I SAID, THIS WILL GO ON TO THE CRA PAGE ON OUR CITY WEBSITE. WE HAD JUST A FEW LITTLE GLITCHES THAT WE NEED TO ADDRESS, BUT OTHER THAN THAT, IT'S PRETTY MUCH READY TO DO THAT. SO DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, ANYTHING THAT YOU'D
LIKE TO SEE AGAIN? >> I'D LIKE TO JUST COMMENT. I DROVE BY THE ALACHUA STREET THE OTHER DAY. IT'S REALLY COOL TO BE ABLE TO SEE THE BEFORE AND AFTER OF THAT. THAT'S BEEN A WONDERFUL CHANGE THAT WE'VE MADE TO FINALLY PUT A BOW IN SOME OF THE TRAFFIC CIRCULATION, AS WELL AS THE AESTHETICS DOWNTOWN. SO I KNOW THAT CREDIT GOES TO STAFF JUST AS MUCH IS PARTICIPATING WITH THE CRA DISTRICT, BUT THAT'S JUST WONDERFUL, BUT I'LL TAKE ANY OTHER COMMISSIONER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS FROM MISS FINKELSTEIN. MR. MINSHEW?
>> SO I THINK TIS IS GREAT, THANK YOU VERY MUCH. ON FRIDAY, I WAS AT FLORIDA LEAGUE OF CITIES LEGISLATIVE POLICY COUNCIL MEETING, AND ONE OF THE ISSUES WE TALKED ABOUT, YOU KNOW, LAST YEAR IN THE LEGISLATURE, IT WAS A BILL TO ELIMINATE CRA'S. AND THE EXPECTATION IS, AND IT DIED, BUT THE EXPECTATION IS IT'LL BE BACK THIS YEAR. SO IT'S A HIGH PRIORITY FOR, FOR MANY OF THE CITIES THAT WERE IN THE MEETING.
AND WE WERE ASKED TO PULL TOGETHER, BECAUSE THE CRITICISM FROM THE LEGISLATURE IS THAT SOME CITIES ARE SPENDING THEIR CRA MONEY FRIVOLOUSLY, AND HOWEVER YOU WANT TO DEFINE FRIVOLOUSLY. AND SO WHAT WE WERE ASKED TO DO IS TO PULL TOGETHER SOME KIND OF SUCCESS STORIES. I TALKED A LITTLE BIT TO CITY MANAGER ABOUT IT, AND THIS STORYBOARD IS ACTUALLY A PERFECT EXAMPLE AND SAY THIS IS WHAT A CRA CAN DO WITH A COMMUNITY. THE THING THAT'S MISSING OUT OF THIS, AND I DON'T KNOW IF YOU
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PLAN TO PUT IT IN, BUT I THINK IT NEEDS TO BE, EVEN FOR THE PUBLIC, IS SOME FINANCIAL DATA. SO WHAT WAS THE BASELINE STARTED, YOU KNOW, WHAT'S THE INCREMENTAL TIF MONEY THAT'S COME IN, AND FOR SOME OF THESE BIGGER PROJECTS, LIKE, HOW MUCH DOES IT COST, WHERE DID THE MONEY COME FROM, WAS IT TIF MONEY, AS IT IMPACTS THE MONEY, YOU KNOW? AND SO WE, I HAVE ASKED THE, THE STAFF TO DO THIS SO WE CAN GIVE IT TO TALLAHASSEE, BUT I THINK MORE IMPORTANTLY, IT, IT FINISHES UP THIS WHOLE PIECE OF , OF WHAT THIS STORYBOARD IS REALLY TELLING. AND SO I, THIS IS FABULOUS. THANK YOU TO ALL THE STAFF THAT WORKED HARD ON IT, AND RECEIVED A LITTLE BIT MORE INFORMATION, AND THEN WE CAN PROUDLY SEND IT OFF TO TALLAHASSEE AND SHOW PEOPLE WHAT A REALLY SUCCESSFUL CRA LOOKSLIKE. SO THANKS. >> YOU'RE WELCOME. AND WE DO, WE DO HAVE A LINK TO THE ANNUAL REPORT ON THE, THE PAGE THAT'S CURRENTLY ON THE CITY'S WEBSITE, BUT YOU'RE EXACTLY RIGHT. I THINK IF WE CAN SHOW SOME MORE OF THAT, YOU KNOW, ON
EACH OF THESE PROJECTS -- >> RIGHT.
>> THINK THAT THAT WOULD BE GREAT, SO. AND IF, IF YOU GUYS ARE OKAY WITH IT, I'LL JUST RIGHT, MOVE RIGHT INTO THE
PROPERTY MATRIX. >> ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS BEFORE
WE MOVE ON? >> JUST WANT TO SAY IT'S
BEAUTIFUL. IT'S GREAT. >> WELL, AND LIKE I SAID --
>> I DON'T WANT TO STAND UP HERE AND SAY I DID THIS. NO, NO, THIS WAS ME, AND SHE'S, SHE'S GREAT AT ALL OF THIS, SO, OKAY.
[4.2 COMMUNITY REDEVELOPMENT AREA — PROPERTY MATRIX — Synopsis: Downtown District Manager Lisa Finkelstein will provide a Community Redevelopment Area property matrix presentation.]
SO EACH MONTH WHEN WE MEET WITH OUR WATERFRONT ADVISORY BOARD, WHAT WAS THE CRA ADVISORY BOARD AND IS NOW COMBINED WITH MARINA ADVISORY BOARD, SO WHEN THAT GROUP MEETS, WE USE THIS DOCUMENT THAT WE CALL THE PROPERTY MATRIX. AND THIS IS REALLY, THIS IS A LISTING OF ALL OF THE PROPERTIES WITHIN THE CRA BOUNDARIES. AND, AND THEN IT'S, IT'S REALLY A WAY OF, A WAY FOR US TO TRACK WHAT'S HAPPENING WITH THEM, WHERE YOU SEE X IS IN THE KNOW COLUMN, THAT NEEDS NOTHING IS HAPPENING RIGHT NOW, EITHER BECAUSE THEY'RE COMPLETE OR THERE'S JUST NO MOVEMENT.THE, THE NEXT COLUMN OVER MEANS THAT THERE IS SOME DISCUSSION ABOUT SOMETHING HAPPENING THERE. AND THEN, OBVIOUSLY, TRC HDC PERMANENT CONSTRUCTION AND COMPLETION ARE THE FOLLOWING COLUMNS. SO THAT'S REALLY HOW WE, YOU KNOW, TRACK MONTH TO MONTH TO PROVIDE THEM WITH AN UPDATE. AND THEN TYPICALLY JAKE PLATT, WHO'S OUR PROJECT COORDINATOR, AND I WILL RUN THROUGH THIS WITH THEM AND PROVIDE UPDATES ON THEM. SO I WAS GOING TO DO THE SAME THING FOR YOU, AND THEN, YOU KNOW, FEEL FREE TO JUMP IN WITH QUESTIONS IF IT'S SOMETHING THAT I CAN'T ANSWER, GLENN IS HERE, JEREMIAH IS HERE, SO ONE OF US CERTAINLY CAN DO THAT, AND, OF COURSE, SARAH. SO, SO FIRST I'LL TALK ABOUT ONE-ON-ONE NORTH FRONT STREET.
SO YOU'VE MENTIONED THAT THAT IS WHERE ALACHUA STREET ENDS WHEN YOU CROSS OVER THE RAILROAD TRACKS THERE HAVE BEEN BARRIERS UP TO KEEP PEOPLE FROM GOING INTO THE RIVER, AND JUST LAST WEEK, THERE WERE BOLLARDS THAT WERE PLACED IN THAT LOCATION .
THERE IS SOME CURBING THAT IS PLANNED TO, TO SURROUND THE UTILITIES THAT ARE LOCATED THERE. JUST TO REALLY PROTECT THEM AND DEFINE WHERE THAT SPACE IS SO THAT WE DON'T HAVE AN ACCIDENT. SOME SIGNAGE HAS BEEN ADDED, AND THERE'S SOME PLANS AS WE GO FORWARD TO ADD SOME PLANTS IN THERE TO, THERE WAS A LOT OF CONCRETE DEBRIS THAT HAD BEEN GATHERING AT THE WATERFRONT. THAT'S BEEN, FOR THE MOST PART, REMOVED OR , AND KIND OF REDISTRIBUTED, SO THAT HAS BEEN CLEANED UP AS WELL. SO THE GOAL IS TO GET THAT PIECE CLEANED UP FOR NO PURPOSE OTHER THAN THE FACT THAT IT CITY PROPERTY AND IT, IT SHOULD LOOK BETTER THAN IT DOES. SO WE, WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON THAT.
THAT'S WHERE THAT STANDS RIGHT NOW, BUT IT IS IN PROGRESS.
BRETT'S AND ATLANTIC SEAFOOD, I THINK YOU ALL ARE RELATIVELY FAMILIAR WITH WHAT'S GOING ON THERE, BUT, YOU KNOW, TALKS CONTINUE AS FAR AS WHAT THE PROCESS WILL BE FOR TAKING BRETT DOWN AND FOR REPAIRING THE WALL THERE, AND THEN ATLANTIC SEAFOOD IS GOING TO COME BEFORE YOU AT A FUTURE MEETING. IT'S SCHEDULED TO GO TO HDC IN, I BELIEVE, NOVEMBER. THOSE ARE MORE WELL KNOWN. STANDARD MARINE BUILDING -- HERE, BUT THAT IS ALSO, MOVING FORWARD WITH A NEW PLAN TO STABILIZE THE STRUCTURE AND MAKE IT SO THAT, YOU KNOW, IT IS 30 AND, AND RESTORED, AT LEAST
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ON THE EXTERIOR, AND THEN TO DETERMINE WHAT THE NEXT STEPS WILL BE AS FAR AS THE INTERIOR AND THE ULTIMATE DISPOSITION OF THAT BUILDING. AND THEN, IF WE GO DOWN HERE, SO THESE ARE PROJECTS THAT ARE NOT NECESSARILY PARCELS, THEY'RE PROJECTS THAT ARE HAPPENING WITHIN THE, THE CRA BOUNDARIES GOOD SO WE ALWAYS PROVIDE AN UPDATE ON THEM. THE SHORELINE RESILIENCY, THE SEAWALL PROJECT IS, WE'RE WORKING ON SOME PERMITTING BY THE END OF OCTOBER FOR THAT. THEY AMELIA RIVER WATERFRONT PARK, WE HAVE AN UPDATED TIMELINE FOR IT, AND WE JUST RECENTLY RECEIVED T-MOBILE HOMETOWN GRANT THAT WILL PAY FOR A GOOD PORTION OF THE PLAY STRUCTURE THAT IS GOING INTO THAT PARK, AND SO WE'RE CONTINUES THERE. THE AREA SIX DRAINAGE PROJECT IS THE ASH STREET STORM WATER MANAGEMENT PROJECT. THAT, WE EXPECT WORK TO BEGIN EARLY IN 2026 ON THAT AREA. DOWNTOWN REVITALIZATION, AGAIN, THAT WILL BE COMING BEFORE YOU. BECAUSE WE'RE MOVING FORWARD WITH HAVING THE ADDITIONAL SIDE STREETS DESIGNED, CENTER STREET DESIGN IS COMPLETE, AND THE NORTH SECOND STREET, NORTH AND SOUTH SECOND STREET DESIGNS ARE MOSTLY, MOSTLY COMPLETE AS WELL.NORTH SECOND STREET FROM ALACHUA TO BROOME , GETTING SIDEWALKS.
PAVING IS SET FOR NEXT WEEK. SO, AND THEN LANDSCAPE WILL FOLLOW AS WELL, SO WE, YOU KNOW, ANTICIPATE SOMEWHERE IN THE BEGINNING OF NOVEMBER THAT THAT WILL BE, THAT PROJECT WILL BE COMPLETE. LIKE I SAID, ATLANTIC SEAFOOD IS GOING TO HDC ON THE 25TH OF NOVEMBER, AND THEN THE SIDEWALK AND FENCING THAT HAVE GONE FROM NORTH FRONT STREET TO ALACHUA, THAT IS NOW SUBSTANTIALLY COMPLETE . THE SIDEWALK IS, IS IN, AND THE FENCING IS IN, AND YOU CAN NOW CONNECT, AND IF YOU WALK THAT WAY, YOU'LL SEE LOTS OF PEOPLE USING IT, SO VERY HAPPY ABOUT THAT. SO THIS DOCUMENT, LIKE I SAID, WE'LL MAINTAIN IT CONSTANTLY, AND WE PROVIDE UPDATES FROM IT. SO IF THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS ON ANY OF THE PROJECTS OR ANYTHING ON THAT
DOCUMENT -- ANSWER. >> COMMISSIONER QUESTIONS?
>> GO AHEAD. >> I KNOW WE HAD TO CANCEL OUR LAST AREA MEETING, BUT THE ONE BEFORE THAT, I ASKED, YOU KNOW, HOW WOULD EXPANSION LOOK OF THE CRA? YOU KNOW, AND SPECIFICALLY KIND OF THE DOWNTOWN AREA. YOU KNOW, OF COURSE, WE GENERATE FUNDS WITHIN THE CRA, AND THAT'S HOW WE'VE KIND OF HELPED IMPROVE, AND I THINK COMMISSIONER MINSHEW'S ON THE RIGHT PATH, WHAT DO THOSE NUMBERS LOOK LIKE? DO WE KNOW AT
ALL, OR? >> SO THERE IS AN ANNUAL REPORT THAT, YOU KNOW, THAT THE AUDITORS REPORT THAT'S PRODUCED EVERY YEAR THAT WE HAVE, SO WE, YOU KNOW, WE DO HAVE THOSE NUMBERS AND CERTAINLY CAN PROVIDE THEM TO YOU. YOU KNOW, IT IS DEFINITELY BEEN AN UPWARD TREND BECAUSE OF THE DEVELOPMENT THAT'S GONE ON, AND THE INCREMENTAL VALUES, YOU KNOW,
GOING UP, INCREASING. >> SO YEAH, I MEAN, IF WE WERE ABLE TO EXPAND IT, LET'S SAY, FRONT EIGHTH STREET, ALACHUA TO ASH, WOULD WE BE ABLE TO GENERATE THOSE NUMBERS TO SEE
WHAT THAT WOULD LOOK LIKE? >> SO I THINK WE WOULD HAVE TO
-- >> AND I UNDERSTAND THAT IT'S A CHARTER ISSUE, IT'S GOT TO BE VOTED ON, 2%. I UNDERSTAND THERE'S HURDLES. THE COUNTY HAS GOT TO SIGN OFF ON IT. I GET THAT. BUT COULD WE, WOULD WE BE ABLE TO IDENTIFY WHAT THAT
NUMBER WOULD LOOK LIKE? >> SO I WILL SAY THIS. I, MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT WE WOULD NEED TO PROVIDE, OR WE WOULD NEED, THEY WOULD NEED TO BE A FINDING OF NECESSITY. SO THE AREA WOULD NEED TO BE DECLARED THAT IT IS --
>> SO, LIKE, LIGHTING THAT'S NOT WORKING --
>> AND I DON'T KNOW, RIGHT. >> I MEAN, PRETTY MUCH THE DOWNTOWN REVITALIZATION PROJECT, WE COULD IMPROVE THAT THAT WOULD
BE THE NEED TO HAVE A CRA. >> THAT WOULD BE, YOU KNOW, THAT'S WHAT WOULD HAVE TO HAPPEN FIRST, AND THEN IN TERMS OF, WE'VE ASKED THIS QUESTION ALL ALONG, AND WE WORKED WITH SEVERAL DIFFERENT PEOPLE THAT ARE KNOWLEDGEABLE ABOUT TIS AND CALCULATING IT AND ESTIMATING IT, AND SUSAN AND I HAVE HAD THIS CONVERSATION MANY TIMES, BECAUSE IT WOULD BE NICE TO BE ABLE TO PROJECT, BUT IT, IT'S VERY DIFFICULT TO PROJECT, SO WHEN A NEW CRA WOULD BE FORMED, FOR INSTANCE, THIS ONE WAS FORMED IN 2004, BUT IT HAD A RESET ALONG THE WAY . SO OUR
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>> SO WE'RE ALWAYS LOOKING AT 2013 AND THE VALUE OF THE PARCELS, SO YOU CAN LOOK AT WHAT THEY ARE NOW, BUT IT'S HARD TO KNOW WHAT THEY WILL BE EVEN IN FIVE YEARS, YOU KNOW? AND, AND NOT KNOWING THE DIFFERENT PROJECTS THAT MIGHT COME ALONG.
SO TO COME UP WITH AN ACTUAL, YOU KNOW, GOOD ESTIMATE IS VERY DIFFICULT. WE'VE NOT BEEN ABLE TO DO IT FOR THIS.
>> RIGHT. >> YOU KNOW? SO I DON'T KNOW THE ANSWER TO THAT QUESTION, AND THAT'S BEYOND MY ABILITIES, BUT CERTAINLY SOMETHING THAT, YOU KNOW, WE CAN START THAT CONVERSATION. I THINK WE PRETTY MUCH SPENT THAT SPRING LEGISLATIVE TIME PERIOD CONCERNED ABOUT CRA'S GOING AWAY
ALTOGETHER. AND -- >> UNDERSTAND THE LEGISLATURE.
I'M NOT TRYING TO GET THE MIDDLE OF THAT, BUT IF WE HAVE THE AVAILABILITY TO LOOK AT WHETHER OR NOT THIS WOULD GENERATE REVENUE, AND AM I WRONG IN ASKING THAT THAT REVENUE COULD BE USED TO BORROW MONEY ? IN OTHER WORDS, WE WOULD BE ABLE TO SAY, HEY, WE HAVE THIS REVENUE SOURCE THAT COMES IN, WE COULD BORROW MONEY TO FIX THESE SAME PROBLEMS THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THAT WOULD HAVE THE NECESSITY, LIKE THE LIGHTING, THE SIDEWALKS, ALL THE THINGS THAT WE PLAN TO FIX WITH DOWNTOWN REVITALIZATION. WOULD WE BE ABLE TO DO THAT WITH THE
CRA? >> THAT'S EXACTLY HOW IT'S SET
UP. >> TO ONLY WORK WITHIN THAT CRA.
BUT, AGAIN -- >> THAT'S ALL I WANTED TO KNOW.
THAT'S WHEN I BROUGHT UP LAST TIME.
>> ALL I KNOW, YEAH. >> COMMISSIONER TUTEN --
>> I WAS JUST GOING TO ADD ON TO THAT, I REMEMBER WHEN THE CITY WAS TRYING TO ESTABLISH THE CRA, AND THERE WAS A LOT OF PUSHBACK, AND IN THE CITY, BECAUSE OF THE TERMINOLOGY NEEDED TO BE BLINDED, AND THE REASON WHY THE CRA IS AS SMALL AS IT IS IS BECAUSE PRETTY MUCH EVERY BUSINESS FROM THIRD STREET TO EIGHTH STREET DID NOT WANT TO BE LABELED BLIGHTED AREA, AND, AND THAT'S WHY THAT HAPPENED. PLUS THE COUNTY ALSO HAS TO SIGN OFF ON, ON A BLIGHTED AREA, BECAUSE THAT TAKES TAX DOLLARS OUT OF
THEIR COFFER AS WELL. >> AND REALLY, WHERE YOU MAKE THE MONEY, WHERE THE MONEY COMES IN IS THE CRA IS THE
>> SO I THINK THE ARGUMENT COULD BE MADE FOR THE AREA THAT YOU'RE SUGGESTING TO ADD, EVEN THOUGH THE INFRASTRUCTURE MAY BE BLIGHTED, THE BUILDINGS ARE NOT, GENERALLY, AND SO YOU'RE NOT GOING TO SEE THAT INCREMENTAL VALUE CHANGE BECAUSE OF PROJECTS
>> I MEAN, THEY'RE LIGHTED ENOUGH THAT THEY'RE GETTING
>> SEEING IMPROVEMENT IN THAT ENTIRE AREA CONSISTENTLY. THEY WEREN'T BLIGHTED, PEOPLE WOULDN'T BE FIXING IT.
>> YEAH. SO THE QUESTION WOULD BE HOW, HOW MUCH, YOU KNOW, DOES IT, DOES IT CHANGE IN ORDER TO GENERATE THE REVENUE --
>> JUST ASKING IF WE COULD HAVE A PROJECTION OF SOMETHING --
>> RIGHT, RIGHT. >> THANK YOU, VICE MAYOR.
COMMISSIONER TUTEN? >> I JUST WANTED TO BRING UP THE, THE PERPETUAL THING I ALWAYS BRING UP, THAT, WHEN, WHEN AND IF WE DO ANYTHING WITH 101 ON NORTH FRONT STREET THAT WE DON'T MAKE IT A PARKING LOT AND WE KEEP -- YEAH? -- IN THE
FRONT OF EVERYBODY'S MIND? >> HENCE THE BOLLARDS. THE BOLLARDS DO GO ALL THE WAY ACROSS, AND THERE ARE, YEAH. SO THAT THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY THAT CAN BE ACCESSED IF IT NEEDS
TO BE, BUT IT CAN'T BE -- >> YEAH, NO, THAT'S GREAT.
BECAUSE FOR HUMANS TO ACCESS IT -- BECAUSE THE VIEW IS
>> SO, AND THEN THE WATERFRONT ADVISORY BOARD, OUR NEXT MEETING IS ON MONDAY AT 6:00. WE MEET ON THE THIRD FOR THE FOURTH MONDAY OF EACH MONTH AT 6:00 RIGHT HERE. WE'RE GOING TO DO SOMETHING A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT. SO, AS YOU ALL KNOW, THE, THE CRA ADVISORY BOARD IN THE MARINA ADVISORY BOARD BLENDED AND BECOME THE WATERFRONT ADVISORY BOARD. SO WE'RE DEALING WITH NOT ONLY THE CRA, BUT ALSO THE MARINA, AND, AND THEY'RE TWO VERY DIFFERENT ANIMALS. YOU KNOW, WHAT IS A BUSINESS, THE OTHER IS, YOU KNOW, MIX OF PUBLIC AND PRIVATE LAND AND PROJECTS. SO IN CONVERSATIONS WITH OUR BOARD CHAIR, WE FELT THAT MAYBE A LITTLE TOUR AND JUST EDUCATION ON BOTH ELEMENTS WOULD BE BENEFICIAL. SO ON MONDAY, WE ARE GOING TO START OUR MEETING HERE, BUT THEN WE'RE GOING TO DO A CRA AND MARINA TOUR WITH THE GROUP AND ANY MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC THAT WANTS TO JOIN US. AND, AND REALLY VISIT, YOU KNOW, JUST TRAVEL AROUND AND VISIT THE PROJECTS THAT ARE LISTED IN THE
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SHEET, AND THEN WE'LL ULTIMATELY END AT THE MARINA, WHERE OUR MANAGER CAN GIVE HIS UPDATE AND SHOW US THE PROJECTS THAT ARE GOING ON THERE. SO THAT'LL GIVE EVERYBODY A CHANCE TO BE REALLY ON THE SAME PAGE WITH VIEWING THESE PROJECTS AND UNDERSTANDING -- WITH A GOAL ULTIMATELY OF EDUCATING THE ENTIRE BOARD, ALL OF US, REALLY, ON WHAT WE CAN DO WITH THE CRA, THE BENEFITS OF THE CRA, TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE, OUR DOING EVERYTHING THAT WE CAN. AND I THINK, YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT THE BOARD DISCUSSES IS ARE THEY DOING WHAT IT IS THAT YOU ALL, THE EXECUTIVE BOARD, WOULD LIKE THEM TO BE DOING? ARE THEY FOCUSED ON THE RIGHT THINGS? YOU KNOW, THEY WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THEIR TIME SERVING COMMUNITY IS OF VALUE TO YOU. SO, YOU KNOW, I WOULD ASK, AS THE STAFF LIAISON FOR THAT GROUP, IF THERE'S ANY GUIDANCE THAT YOU CAN PROVIDE TO, TO THEM, OR TO, AND TO US, WE WOULD APPRECIATE IT. SO WHATEVER IT IS THAT YOU'D LIKE US TO DIG INTO, THAT'S WHAT WE'RE THERE FOR, SO. THAT'S REALLY EVERYTHING I HAVE HEARD>> ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS? YUP.
>> SO WHAT TIME IS, WHAT TIME ARE YOU STARTING ON MONDAY?
>> 6:00. SO WE'LL DO OUR, OUR NORMAL, YOU KNOW, ROLLCALL, APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES, AND THEN WE'LL JUMP ON THE BUS. AND WE'RE GOING TO HAVE THIS SHEET THAT APPEAR IN PAPER FORM SO THAT WE CAN KIND OF FOLLOW ALONG. IT'LL BE OUR, OUR ROAD
MAP. >> SO THE BOARD MEETS, WE MET THIS YEAR WITH THE PAB IN A WORKSHOP TO DISCUSS WHERE WE WANTED THEM TO GO AND WHAT WERE THE THINGS THAT WERE IMPORTANT TO US, AND, AND UNDERSTOOD WHERE THEY ARE AND SOME THINGS. SO WHAT I WOULD SUGGEST IS MAYBE THAT WOULD BE APPROPRIATE FOR THE WATERFRONT ADVISORY BOARD AS WELL IS FOR US TO HAVE A JOINT PLANNING SESSION AS WE'RE ABOUT TO GO INTO THE NEW YEAR.
>> RIGHT. >> AND SO THAT WE CAN SET SOME COMMON OBJECTIVES AND GOALS SO THAT WE'RE ALL CLEAR ON WHAT
EACH OTHER'S DOING. >> THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER. ANY
OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? >> EXCUSE ME, SIR, WE CAN'T TAKE COMMENTS FROM THE AUDIENCE. IF YOU'D LIKE TO FILL A SPEAKER CARD. BUT FOR YOUR INFORMATION, IT'S THE COMMUNITY REDEVELOPMENT AREA. SEEING NO ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS FOR MISS FINKELSTEIN, WE'LL MOVE RIGHT ALONG.
>> THANK YOU. >> THANK
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