7.1 AWARD OF REQUEST FOR PROPOSALS 25-05 - PAID PARKING MANAGEMENT - RESOLUTION 2025-142 AWARDING REQUEST FOR PROPOSAL 25-05 FOR PARKING MANAGEMENT SERVICES TO SP+ PARKING OR ONE PARKING INC. OR ELITE PARKING SERVICES; AUTHORIZING STAFF TO NEGOTIATE CONTRACT TERMS AND CONDITIONS; AUTHORIZING ADMINISTRATIVE CORRECTION OF SCRIVENER'S ERRORS; AUTHORIZING EXECUTION; AND PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE. Synopsis: Awards RFP 2025-05 for paid parking management to one of the three final companies (SP+ Parking, One Parking Inc., or Elite Parking Services) and authorizing staff to negotiate contract terms and conditions.

[7.1 AWARD OF REQUEST FOR PROPOSALS 25-05 - PAID PARKING MANAGEMENT - RESOLUTION 2025-142 AWARDING REQUEST FOR PROPOSAL 25-05 FOR PARKING MANAGEMENT SERVICES TO SP+ PARKING OR ONE PARKING INC. OR ELITE PARKING SERVICES; AUTHORIZING STAFF TO NEGOTIATE CONTRACT TERMS AND CONDITIONS; AUTHORIZING ADMINISTRATIVE CORRECTION OF SCRIVENER'S ERRORS; AUTHORIZING EXECUTION; AND PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE. Synopsis: Awards RFP 2025-05 for paid parking management to one of the three final companies (SP+ Parking, One Parking Inc., or Elite Parking Services) and authorizing staff to negotiate contract terms and conditions.]

TECH ISSUE. THAT PASSES 5-0. ONTO ITEM 7, STARTING WITH 7.1, A REQUEST FOR PROPOSALS AND AWARD FOR PAID PARKING MANAGEMENT I BELIEVE MR. CAMPBELL OR GLISTEN RR WILL

START IT OFF? >> I WANTED TO START OFF TONIGHT BEFORE YOU MOVE INTO RESOLUTION 225-142 WHICH IS TO SELECT A FIRM AND DIRECT STAFF TO ENTER INTO NEGOTIATIONS WITH A POTENTIAL FIRM TO GO THROUGH A SUMMARY OF THE PROCESS THAT BROUGHT US HERE, JUST SO WE HAVE A GOOD RECAP OF THAT BEFORE YOU MOUFB INTO DELIBERATIONS. SO FIRST OF ALL, THE PURPOSE OF THE INITIATIVE WAS TO FUND THREE MAJOR CAPITAL PROJECTS. THAT IS THE CONSTRUCTION OF THE SEA WALL, DEMOLITION OF BRETS AND RECONNECTION OF THE DOCK AND REBUILD FAILING INFRASTRUCTURE IN THE DOWNTOWN DISTRICT. I WOULD SAY THIS IS A RARE SCENARIO, THAT ALL THREE MAJOR PROJECTS HAVE COME TO AN END SIMULLTANEOUSLY. THIS IS NOT SOMETHING THAT THE GENERAL FUND WHICH WE REVIEWED AT YOUR LAST MEETING, IT'S $44 MILLION, COULD ABSORB SOMETHING OF THIS MAGNITUDE WITHOUT SEVERELY LIMITING SERVICES. WE ARE TALKING ABOUT UNIQUE FUNDING STRATEGIES TO COVER THE PROJECTS. THE CITY COMMISSION DID CONSIDER INCREASING PROPERTY TAXES, THAT IS AN UNEQUAL DISTRIBUTION PAID BY CERTAIN PROPERTY OWNERS ONLY. WE TALKED ABOUT TOURISM DEVELOPMENT TAXES. THESE ARE NOT CITY TASHES. THE

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CITY DOES NOT HAVE THE ABILITY TOLOVEY OR COLLECT THEM. IN THE BUDGET PROCESS, WE TALKED ABOUT EXPENDITURE CUTS AND DECREASING CITY SERVICES AND ELIMINATING CITY JOBS. OTHER USER FEES HAVE BUN MENTIONED. MOST OF THOSE USER FEES, WE CAN'T STANTIATE THEY WOULD GENERATE SUFFICIENT ARE REVENUE FOR THE TYPE OF CAPITAL CONSTRUCTION YOU ARE WANTING TO TAKE ON. PARKING IS A USER FEE THAT SHIFTS THE COST OF THE MAINTENANCE AND IMPROVEMENTS AWAY FROM THE TAXPAYER TO THE USER OF THIS SYSTEM. THE TIME LINE, BEFORE I CAME TO THE CITY, PRIOR COMMISSIONS HAD DISCUSSED DIFFERENT FUNDING STRATEGIES FOR THE PROJECTS. IN DECEMBER OF LAST YEAR AT A PUBLIC MEETING, THE CITY COMMISSION DIRECTED THAT WE HOLD A WORK SHOP ON PAID PARKING IN APRIL. IN FEBRUARY, WE HAD OUR STRATEGIC PLANNING SESSION WHERE THE COMMISSION IDENTIFIED SEVEN GOALS AND PAID PARKING WAS ONE OF THOSE OPERATIONAL GOALS THATTIA IDENTIFIED. IN MARCH, WE THEN ADOPTED A RESOLUTION DIRECTING STAFF TO PURSUE PAID PARKING PROGRAM LONG WITH THE OTHER SIX GOALS. ON APRIL 1, WE HAD THE WORK SHOP X SPECIFICALLY ON PAID PARKING. THEN MAY 1, THE REQUEST FOR PROPOSALS WAS ISSUEDED. IN EARLY JUNE, THE PROPOSALS WERE DUE AND WE RECEIVED SEVEN PROPOSALS. THE STAFF EVALUATION COMMITTEE BEGAN MEETING IN LATE JUNE TO EVALUATE THOSE AND RANK THE FIRMS AND BRING YOU THE TOP THREE. JUNE 24 WE HAD A COMMUNITY TOWN HALL AND THEN WE HAD PRESENTATIONS BY THE TOP RANKED FIRMS. AS A REMINDER, THIS IS THE ZONE THAT IS BEING PROPOSED. IT IS A PORTION OF THE DOWNTOWN AREA FROM FRONT STREET TO EIGHTH STREET AND FROM ASH TO UH-UH LATCHA. THE AREAS OUTSIDE OF THAT WOULD NOT INCLUDE ANY PAID PARKING. WHERE WE ARE ARE AT IN THE IMPLEMENTATION PROCESS, WE HAVE DONE RFP, THE EVALUATION, COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT. WE ARE NOW AT THE STAGE WHERE IF THE COMMISSION CHOOSES, YOU COULD AWARD THIS TO A VENDOR. AFTER YOU AWARD TO A VENDOR, WE WOULD MOVE INTO CONTRACT NEGOTIATIONS. THAT COULD BE DONE THROUGH A NUMBER OF PATHS. WE COULD USE A TASK FORCE TO WORK OUT SOME OF THE DETAILS. YOU COULD DIRECT ME AND THE STAFF TO DO THE NEGOTIATION.

YOU COULD CHOOSE TO DO THAT NEGOTIATION YOURSELF. THAT WOULD BE DONE AT PUBLIC MEETING. IF YOU DECIDE TO MOVE FORWARD, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE WILL NEED TO MAKE A DECISION ON. ONCE A CONTRACT IS NEGOTIATED, IT WOULD NEED TO COME BACK TO THE COMMISSION FOR FINAL APPROVAL. WE DO NEED TO ADOPT AN ORDINANCE TO ALLOW FOR THE ENFORCEMENT OF THE PROGRAM AND THAT WOULD BE FOLLOWED BY PROGRAM ACTIVATION. NO TIME LINES ON THESE. YOU CAN TAKE AS MUCH OR LITTLE TIME TO MOVE FORWARD THROUGH THOSE PHASES. IF YOU MOVE FORWARD WITH THOSE, WE WOULD MOVE INTO THE BUDGETING PIECE TO ITEMIZE THE EXPECTED ARE REVENUE AND EXPENDITURES AND IMPLEMENT THAT THROUGH A BUDGET AMENDMENT RESOLUTION. SO THAT'S A QUICK HIGH LEVEL OVERVIEW OF WHAT BROUGHT US HERE. IN SUMMARY, I WANTED TO SHARE THAT I THINK THE PROCESS HAS BEEN PRETTY SYSTEMIC. YOU IDENTIFIED GOALS AND GAVE DIRECTION. WE HELD A TRANSPARENT PROCESS AND OFFERED MULTIPLE OPPORTUNITIES FOR PUBLIC INPUT. WE THEN HELD A COMPETITIVE PROCUREMENT PROCESS. IT IS MY OPINION THAT THE PROCESS YOU HAVE LAID OUT HAS BEEN FAIR AND TRANSPARENT AND YOU ARE IN A POSITION TO MAKE A DECISION TONIGHT IF YOU SO CHOOSE. WHAT WE WILL DISTRIBUTE TO YOU IS A RANKING SHEET WITH THREE FIRMS ON IT AND ASK THE COMMISSION TO RANK THOSE FIRMS. THAT WILL BE POSTED ON THE SCREEN FOR THE PUBLIC TO SEE. IF YOU DESIRE, SOMEBODY COULD THEN MAKE A MOTION TO SELECT ONE OF THOSE FIRMS OR YOU DON'T HAVE TO DO ANYTHING AT ALL. WE WOULD THEN MOVE INTO PUBLIC COMMENT AND COMMISSION DISCUSSION. I'LL TAKE ANY QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT HAVE.

>> THANK YOU. ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS? I HAVE A HEALTHY STACK OF SPEAKERS THAT WOULD LIKE TO COME UP.

>> DO YOU WANT TO DO THE RANKING FIRST?

>> CERTAINLY. >> DO YOU HAVE A MOTION?

>> SURE. >> THE RANKING FORM YOU HAVE,

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YOU PUT YOUR TOP RANKED FIRM AS NUMBER ONE AND LOWEST RANKED

FIRM AS NUMBER THREE. >> ALL RIGHT. AND FOR OUR POINT OF ORDER, WOULD YOU LIKE TO TAKE A MOTION BEFORE PUBLIC COMMENT

OR? >> I WOULD THINK YOU WOULD TAKE A MOTION BECAUSE THAT WOULD OPEN THE PUBLIC COMMENT. IF IT IS SECONDED, THEN YOU TAKE PUBLIC COMMENT.

>> THANK YOU. DO I HAVE A MOTION?

>> WE NEED TO SEE THE RANKINGS.

>> ALL RIGHT. DO I HAVE A MOTION?

>> I MOVE TO APPROVE. >> I HAVE A MOTION. IS THERE A

SECOND? >> I'LL SECOND THAT.

>> I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. ANY COMMISSIONER DISCUSSION? SEEING NONE, WE WILL TAKE OUR FIRST PUBLIC COMMENT. WE HAVE

MS. JULIE FERERA. >> JULIE FERERA, 501 DATE STREET. FIRST OF ALL, I WILL SAY THAT I OBJECT TO THE PROCESS OF RANKING BEFORE TAKING PUBLIC COMMENT. THE OTHER THING I WILL SAY IS THAT I DON'T THINK WE KNOW, NOR ARE WE PREPARED FOR ALL OF THE UNKNOWNS THAT COME WITH INSTALLING PAID PARGING. I THINK IT'S GOING TO PUSH PEOPLE INTO THE NEIGHBORHOODS, PARKING ON PEOPLE'S LAWNS. I KNOW IT'S THE RIGHT OF WAY. I KNOW MY LAWN HAS SPRINKLERS. DURING SHRIMP FESTIVAL, I HAD PEOPLE PARKING IN MY LAWN, SPINNING THEIR WHEELS TO GET OFF MY LAWN. THE CITY HAD TO PAY TO PUT IN NEW SPRINKLER HEADS. I DON'T KNOW IF THAT WILL HAPPEN AGAIN BUT I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE CITY IS OPENING ITSELF UP FOR. I THINK THAT MY PERSONAL EXPERIENCE IS THAT I WENT TO THE COURTHOUSE IN JACKSONVILLE, THERE IS A PARKING LOT ACROSS FROM THE COURTHOUSE. I HAD TO RUN IN FOR 10 MINUTES.

I TOOK 15 MINUTES TRYING TO FIGURE OUT ON MY PHONE HOW TO REGISTER MY CAR TO PARK IN THE PARKING LOT. I COULD NOT DO IT.

I LEFT SOMEBODY SITTING IN THE CAR SO THAT WE WOULDN'T GET A TICKET. I WAS IN THE COURTHOUSE FOR PROBABLY 12 MINUTES. I CAME BACK AND TWO WEEKS LATER, GOT A $45 FINE. SO I DON'T KNOW WHAT KIND OF THINGS WE ARE OPENING OURSELVES UP TO BUT I THINK THERE IS A LOT OF THOUGHT THAT NEEDS TO GO INTO THIS. THERE IS ALSO A PERSON THAT I HAVE HEARD ABOUT WHO IS A WELL KNOWN MEMBER OF OUR COMMUNITY WHO WENT TO ST. AUGUSTINE. THEY WERE GOING TO EAT IN ST. AUGUSTINE AND FOUND A MRIS PLACE TO MARK, PUT IN INFORMATION, DIDN'T USE A QR CODE SO I DON'T KNOW HOW THEY WORK. IMMEDIATELY ON THEIR PHONES, SOMEONE HAD TAPPED INTO THE SYSTEM AND WERE TRYING TO CHARGE THESE PEOPLE'S CREDIT CARD WITH $500. SO THEY IMMEDIATELY CALLED THEIR CREDIT CARD COMPANY AND THEY CANCELED THAT. SO I THINK THERE'S A LOT OF UNKNOWNS THAT WE DON'T UNDERSTAND. I DON'T THINK THAT IS THE COMMUNITY WE WANT TO BE, TO HAVE PEOPLE WHO GO TO THE LIBRARY FOR 12 MINUTES, GETTING A $45 TICKET TWO WEEKS LATER. I

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THINK THIS NEEDS A LOT OF THOUGHT. I HOPE YOU GIVE IT

TONIGHT. >> THANK YOU. NEXT WE HAVE

KIMBERLEYASTEN. >> HI, KIMBERLEY ASPENWALL, 409 SOUTH SIXTH STREET. I JUST WANT TO SAY I'M OPPOSED TO PAID PARKING. I DO THINK IT IS GOING TO ROLLY CHANGE OUR DOWNTOWN COMPLOETLY.I'M A BUSINESS OWNER AND I HAVE LIVED HERE FOR OVER 20 YEARS. I THINK IT IS GOING TO TAKE AWAY THE COMPLETE WELCOMING CHARM THAT WE HAVE HAD EVER SINCE I HAVE LIVED HERE. I REALLY WISH YOU WOULD AT LEAST RECONSIDER AND REALLY THINK ABOUT ALL OF THIS AND I THINK THERE HAS BEEN SO MANY GREAT POINTS. I HAVE BEEN COMING TOALL OF THESE MEETINGS, NEVER GOT INVOLVED WITH THE CITY OR ANYTHING BUT THIS IS REALLY TEARING AT MY HEART, WHAT IT'S GOING TO DO TO OUR DOWNTOWN. I THINK THAT YOU REALLY, REALLY SHOULD PAY ATTENTION TO WHAT THE BUSINESS OWNERS FEEL AND THE RESIDENTS IN OUR CITY, THANK

YOU. >> THANK YOU. NEXT IS MR.

RICHARD DEAN. >> GOOD EVENING, RICHARD DEAN, 4104 PLACE, CITY RESIDENT. YOU HAVE HEARD THE LIST OF PROJECTS HERE BUT I WANT TO RECAP THE HISTORY WITH OUR CITY WHERE WE KICKED THE CANON THINGS. THE PRICE TO DO THESE PROJECTS DOWN THE ROAD IS LARGER. WE HAVE ALSO HAD EXPERIENCE AND I KNOW THE VICE MAYOR DOESN'T WNT WANT TO HEAR THIS BUT I DON'T WANT TO REPEAT BEACH ACCESS ISSUE WHERE WE DON'T DO THE MAINTENANCE AND THEN WE CLOSE STUFF. THAT IS GOING TO HAD HURT CITY BUSINESSES. I WELCOME DISCUSSION ABOUT CAPITAL PROJECTS, WHETHER THEY ARE NEEDS OR WANTS. I WOULD ADD A RECENT ITEM TO THAT LIST THAT I THINK IS A NEED, NOT A WANT. WE GOT A USED SOCCER COMPLEX ISSUE ON OUR LAPS WHERE THE PROVIOUS COMMISSION ENTERED INTO AN AGREEMENT WITH THE COUNTY, GOOD PARTNERSHIP EFFORT, ONE PROBLEM. WE HAVE TO PURCHASE LAND WE ALREADY OWN. THAT'S RIGHT. WE GOT TO PURCHASE LAND THAT THE CITY ALREADY OWNS TO MAKE THE PROJECT GO FORWARD. NOW THE PROJECT IS UP IN THE AIR. I KNOW THE COMMISSION IS RECONSIDERING WHETHER THE WISDOM OF PAYING FOR THE PROPERTY YOU ALREADY OWN, I THINK WE ARE TALKING SIX FIGURES MAYBE SEVEN BEFORE YOU GET DONE WITH ALL OF THE ISSUES WITH CONSTRUCTION, PARKING AND WHAT NOT. YOU KNOW, I DON'T THINK PAID PARKING IS ANYBODY'S FIRST CHOICE. BUT THERE COMES A TIME WHEN YOU CAN'T JUST SAY, THE MONEY IS THERE. PEOPLE SAID, SHOW US THE MONEY, SO US THE DETAILED DOCUMENT LIST OF THINGS THAT IS AN ALTERNATIVE TO THIS. THEY SAID TDC MONEY IS THERE, WELL, THAT'S RESTRICTED. THE COMMISSION DIDN'T HAVE A LOT OF OPTIONS HERE. IF WE ALLOW THE CITY INFRASTRUCTURE AND TALK ABOUT THE RESLIGHTALIZATION PROJECT, SOME SAID IT WAS FRILLS. IT IS ELECTRICITY AND WATER TO KEEP THINGS RUNNING. WHEN THAT GOES, THOSE CITY BUSINESSES WILL NOT HAVE CUSTOMERS. YOU KNOW, I THINK AS WE GO FORWARD HERE, WE JUST GOT TO FOCUS ON GETTING THE JOB DONE, NOT KICKING THE CAN. JUST SAY NO IS NOT A GOOD STRATEGY.

COME UP WITH ALTERNATIVES, WORK WITH PEOPLE. WORK WITH PEOPLE AND COME UP WITH THE MONEY TO PAY FOR THESE PROJECTS. WE NEED TO DO THESE THINGS. YOU WANT TO KICK THE CAN, THE CITY THAT YOU ALL LOVE, IT AIN'T GOING TO BE THE SAME. IT'S NOT GOING TO BE AS PROSPEROUS. AND I THINK THAT WE NEED TO PAY PARKING BECAUSE I HAVEN'T SEEN ANOTHER ALTERNATIVE.

>> THANK YOU. NEXT WE HAVE DAWN MAIZE. 510 APLATCHA STREET. I'M

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THE PASTOR AT THE CHURCH. I HAVE URGED YOU TO SLOW DOWN THE PROCESS AND DUE YOUR DUE DILIGENCE AND LOOK AT THE OTHER OPTIONS BECAUSE THERE ARE ARE ALWAYS OTHER OPTIONS, INTERGOVERNMENT AGREEMENTS, PUBLIC PRIVATE PARTNERSHIPS.

THERE ARE ALWAYS OTHER OPTIONS. TONIGHT I WANT TO ASK YOU A DIFFERENT QUESTION. DO YOU REMEMBER THE OLD CHILDREN TELEVISION PROGRAM MR. ROGERS' NEIGHBORHOOD? HE WAS AN ORDAINED PRESBYTERIAN MINISTER WHO LIVED OUT HIS MINISTRY THROUGH THE TELEVISION PROGRAM THAT TAUGHT PEOPLE OF ALL AGES THE TRUTH, WE ARE COMMANDED TO LOVE OUR NEIGHBORS. YOU KNOW THE THEME SONG OF THE SHOW, IT'S A BEAUTIFUL DAY IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD, WON'T YOU BE MY NEIGHBOR? MY CHURCH RECENTLY COMPLETED A STRATEGIC PLAN AND STARTED WHERE ALL PLANS SHOULD START WITH STUDYING AND UNDERSTANDING OUR IDENTITY. IF YOU AS COMMISSIONERS WANT TO MAKE GOOD DECISIONS ON BEHALF OF THOSE WHO ELECTED YOU, THAT'S WHERE YOU NEED TO START TOO.

UNDERSTAND THE IDENTITY OF FERNADINA BEACH, FLORIDA, WHAT MAKES US UNIQUE, DIFFERENT FROM ALL OF THE OTHER BEACH TOWNS UP AND DOWN THE COAST? WE ARE A COMMUNITY OF NEIGHBORS. IT THAT'S WHAT MAKES THE CITY SO UNIQUE AND SPECIAL. WE ARE KNOWN FOR OUR LOVE AND CONCERN FOR NEIGHBORS. I SHARED WITH YOU THE IMPACT THAT PAID PARKING WOULD HAVE ON CHURCHES THROUGHOUT THE WEEK. THE LITERALLY THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE WHO COME TO MEB SERVICES, BIBLE STUDY, YOUTH GROUP, MISSION ACTIVITIES THAT REACH INTO THE COMMUNITY. ONE OF OUR ELDERLY MEMBERS TOLD ME SHE CANNOT AFFORD TO PAY TO PARK, SHE CAN'T WALK THE DISTANCE TO THE FREE PARKING SO SHOW SAID I WON'T BE ABLE TO COME. THAT'S NOT SUNDAY MORNING. THAT'S HER WOMEN'S GROUP, BIBLE STUDY, MISSION GROUPS. THESE PEOPLE DON'T HAVE APPS, THEY DON'T HAVE SMART PHONES. WHAT ABOUT OUR YOUTH? AT MY CHURCH ALONE, AROUND 50 KIDS FROM ALL OVER THE COMMUNITY AGES 11 THROUGH 18 COME ON WEDNESDAY NIGHTS TO YOUTH GROUP. PARENTS OFTEN PULL UP TO DROP THEM OFF OR PICK THEM UP? WILL THAT BE POSSIBLE? DO WE WANT YOUNG TEENAGERS WALKING TO DISTANT PARKING BY THEMSELVES AT NIGHT WHEN YOUTH GROUP IS OVER? I LIVE DOWNTOWN. I DON'T NEED A PARKING SPOT. I WALK EVERYWHERE BUT I LOVE MY NEIGHBORS. I WANT TO TELL YOU THE PEOPLE WHO MAKE OUR COMMUNITY, WHO SUPPORT OUR BUSINESSES, EAT AT OUR RESTAURANTS, MAKE OUR COMMUNITY SO VIBRANT ARE NOT TOURISTS. THEY ARE LOCAL PEOPLE WHO LOVE THIS CITY. I SEE THE SAME PEOPLE EVERY DAY. I'M WALKING UP AND DOWN THESE STREETS EVERY SINGLE DAY. I SEE THE SAME PEOPLE WHO LIVE HERE, WHO ARE OUR NEIGHBORS. THEY DRIVE HERE WITH THEIR DOGS. THEY GET A CUP OF COFFEE. THEY SIT ON THE BENCHES AND TALK TO PEOPLE. THEY ARE OUR NEIGHBORS. I WANT TO URGE YOU, WON'T YOU BE A NEIGHBOR? MAKE THE RIGHT DECISION, REJECT PAID PARKING AND PRESERVE WHAT MAKES THIS COMMUNITY SO SPECIAL. THANK

YOU. >> THANKS. NEXT WE HAVE JANAE

RUBY. >> 909 CEDAR STREET. I WANT TO START BY SAYING I HIGHLY RESENT THE FACT THAT YOU SAY YOU WERE TRANSPARENT IN DISCUSSION OF PAID PARKING. I KNOW SEVERAL DOWNTOWN BUSINESS OWNERS WHO WERE NOT TOLD BY THE CITY. THEY WERE NOT TOLD BY MAIN STREET. WE WERE CAUGHT ON OUR BACK FOOT. WE DON'T APPRECIATE IT AND WE'RE NOT HAPPY. OVER THE PAST FEW YEARS, THE THREE HOUR PAID PARKING SIGNS HAVE BEEN REMOVED.

AN EMAIL I WAS INFORMED THAT HIGHER COURTS RULED CHALKING TIRES CONSTITUTES A VIOLATION OF THE FOURTH AMENDMENT. BASED ON MY RESEARCH AND I'M NOT A JURIS DRR T, THIS STATEMENT IS NOT ENTIRELY ACCURATE. THE COURT OF APPEALS DID RULE THAT THING PRACTICE VIOLATES THE FOURTH AMENDMENT. IN CONTRAST, NIGHT CIRCUIT WHICH INCLUDES SEVERAL WESTERN STATES SUCH AS ALASKA AND EVEN GUAM, RULED IT DID NOT CONSTITUTE A VIOLATION. FLORIDA BELONGS TO THE 11TH CIRCUIT COURT. THEY HAVE NOT RULED ON A CASE. WITH DEDICATED AUXILIARY AND POLICE DEPARTMENTS, THIS ISSUE COULD BE REVISITED. REINSTATING TIME LIMITED PARKING ENFORCEMENT CAN IMPROVE ACCESSIBILITY AND SERVE AS A SOURCE OF REVENUE OR SUPPORT ONGOING MAINTENANCE OF PARKING INFRASTRUCTURE. ACCORDING TO THE TDC, $11.5 MILLION WAS COLLECTED IN TAXES. OF THAT AMOUNT, 15% OR ABOUT $1.7 MILLION COVERED ADMINISTRATIVE COSTS. 10% OR $1.5 MILL KWN WAS DIRECTED

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TOWARDS TRADE SHOWS AND TRAVEL AND ADVOCATED TO BEACH RELATED INITIATIVES. 65%, YOU GUYS, 65% OR $7.5 MILLION WAS ALLOCATED TO ADVERTISING OUR ISLAND. I THINK THAT'S PLENTY. GIVEN THE RECENT CHANGES TO THE LAWS GOVERNING THE TDC COUNCIL, WHY ARE WE NOT ENGAGED IN A MORE MEANINGFUL DISCUSSION ABOUT RECLAIMING A GREATER SHARE OF OUR FUNDS? IT'S OUR BEACHES, OUR CHARMING DOWNTOWN, AND OUR OUTSTANDING HOSPITALITY THAT KEEPS VISITORS COMING BACK HERE YEAR AFTER YEAR. THANKS, HAVE A GREAT

NIGHT. >> THANK YOU. NEXT WE HAVE MS.

MARION PHILLIPS. >> GOOD EVENING, COMMISSIONERS.

I LIVE AT 7:24 SOUTH SIXTH STREET. IN MY OPINION, FOR THE CITY COMMISSION TO MOVE FORWARD AT THIS MOMENT KNOWING THE CITIZENS AGAINST PAID PARKING HAVE WORKED TO GET 652, AND AS OF TONIGHT, IT'S OVER 700 SIGNED PETITIONS BY REGISTERED CITY VOTERS IN 24 HOURS, IS A COMPLETE DISREGAOATH THAT EACH OF YOU TOOK, EACH OF YOU TOOK TO SERVE THE CITIES, THE CITIZENS THAT ELECTED YOU. YOUR DECISIONS HAVE CONSEQUENCES. WE WILL REACH OUR GOAL THAT WE HAVE TO HAVE TO PUT THE PAID PARKING ISSUE ON THE REFERENDUM. WE WILL REACH THAT GOAL AND WE ARE GOING TO REACH IT VERY SOON. BECAUSE WE ARE ALL WORKING VERY HARD. YOU KNOW, RIGHT NOW, WHAT I HAVE HEARD FROM THE CITIZENS THAT ARE TAXPAYERS HERE, WHAT THEY WANT IS AN INSPECTOR GENERAL TO LOOK AT EVERY ASPECT OF THE CITY.

IT'S WELL OVER DUE. I DON'T CARE IF YOU HAVE DONE A BUDGET AND HAD SOMEONE LOOK AT IT, WE NEED AN INSPECTOR GENERAL TO LOOK AT THE BUDGET AND SEE EXACTLY WHAT'S GOING ON IN THE CITY. THE CITIZENS ARE WORKING HARD. WE SHOULDN'T HAVE TO DO HAD THIS. WE SHOULD NOT HAVE TO DO THIS AND SPEND THE MONEY WOO ARE AND THE TIME TAKING AWAY FROM OUR FAMILIES TO STOP THIS BUT PEOPLE ARE SO CONCERNED, WE ARE FIGHTING FOR THE CITIZENS AND THE TAXPAYERS. I'M ASKING YOU TONIGHT, PUT AWAY YOU'RE GOS AND STOP IT. DON'T VOTE FOR THIS. AND DON'T LOOK AT MOW LIKE THAT MR. CORNER, I AM TELLING YOU WE HAVE HAD IT. WE ARE TIRED BUT WE WILL KEEP FIGHTING. YOU HEAR ME? WE WILL STOP IT. IF YOU DO THE RIGHT THING TONIGHT, WE WILL NOT HAVE TO GO LIKE WE ARE GOING. THANK YOU. .

>> THANK YOU. NEXT WE HAVE RHONDA ELSOP.

>> I LIVE AT 1011 SOUTH FLETCHER AVENUE. I HAVE BEEN A BUSINESS OWNER HERE FOR 37 YEARS. I KNOW AN ANTIQUE MARKET. I'M SEEING THIRD GENERATION CUSTOMERS IN MY STORE. I HAVE BEEN DOING POLLING WITH THE CUSTOMERS AND TO BE HONEST, MANY OF THE CUSTOMERS, EVERYONE FEELS THE SAME WAY. MAYBE 10 OUT OF 100 WOULD BE IN FAVOR OF THE PAID PARKING BUT THAT IS BECAUSE THEY ARE AFRAID OF TAX INCREASES. MY FEELING ABOUT THAT IS WHEN DO OUR TASHES NOT INCREASE? THEY ALWAYS GO UP. WE CAN FIND OTHER WAYS TO FUND THIS. WE FEEL AS ONE BUSINESS OWNER BROUGHT UP, I THINK IT'S COME ON US SORT OF SUDDENLY. WE DIDN'T REALLY HAVE TIME TO GIVE US THE THOUGHT THAT IT NEEDS. WE ARE ARE AN ENTERPRISING COMMUNITY. I THINK WE CAN COME UP WITH OTHER IDEAS. I PERSONAL HAVE A SMALL PARKING LOT. SO I MAY NOT BE AS AFFECTED BY OTHER PEOPLE AS THIS. MY CUSTOMERS CAN STILL USE MY PARKING LOT. MY VENDORS CAN STILL COME IN. I CAN HAVE MY CUSTOMERS PULL IN. BUT I THINK IT IS GOING TO BE A HEADACHE FOR ME PERSONALLY BECAUSE WHERE DO YOU THINK THE PEOPLE WHO DON'T WANT TO PAY TO PARK WILL TRY TO SNEAK IN? MY PARKING LOT, OBVIOUSLY. I DON'T WANT TO BE THE PERSON WHO IS KNOWN FOR CALLING THE TOW TRUCKS AND HAVING PEOPLE PULLED OUT. I THINK FROM MY EXPERIENCE OF 37 YEARS, SEEING CHANGE AND BEING A BUSINESS OWNER. OUR LOCAL COMMUNITY IS AS MUCH A PART OF OUR BUSINESS COMMUNITY AS THE TOURISTS. THE TOURISTS HAVE BECOME MORE. THEY HAVE. BUT OUR LOCALS ARE WHAT REALLY ARE THE HEART AND SOUL OF IT. THEY DO NOT WANT PAID PARKING. MANY OF THEM HAVE EXPRESSED TO ME THAT THEY WILL NOT -- ESPECIALLY MY ELDERLY CUSTOMERS, THEY DO NOT

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UNDERSTAND THE APPS. THEY SAID THEY JUST WON'T COME. I'M ASKING YOU TO GIVE IT CONSIDERATION BEFORE YOU VOTE ON IT. IT IS GOING TO AFFECT, WE SAW THE AREA THAT WILL BE PUT IN THE PAID PARKING ZONE, AND IT IS OUR DOWNTOWN BUSINESS COMMUNITY THAT WILL BE AFFECTED MOST. SO PLEASE GIVE IT SOME

CONSIDERATION. THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU. NEXT WE HAVE MS.

PETER STEVENSON. >> GOOD EVENING.1627 HIGHLAND DUNES WAY, FERNADINA BEACH. I THINK SOME OF YOU HAVE HEARD ME UP HERE COMPLAINING ABOUT MONIES, AND ABOUT GETTING SOMETHING DONE DOWNTOWN. I HAVE BEEN VERY FRUSTRATED WITH THE LACK OF PROGRESS OF WHAT I'M GOING TO CALL THE REPAIR OF OUR CITY DOWNTOWN. WE MANAGED TO KICK THE CAN DOWN THE ROAD FOR QUITE A FEW YEARS. WHAT I SEE COMING FORWARD TONIGHT IS AN ALTERNATIVE THAT WOULD PROVIDE AN ADDITIONAL REVENUE STREAM THAT DOES NOT EXIST THAT WOULD BE REPEATABLE AND COULD BE UTILIZED TO START FIXING SOME OF THE ISSUES THAT WE HAVE WITH OUR CITY. LET'S THINK ABOUT A COUPLE OF THINGS. CENTER STREET REVITALIZATION WAS STARTED ON APRIL 29, 1977. OKAY, SO THE INFRASTRUCTURE IN THE GROUND DOWN THERE RIGHT NOW WAS PUT IN BETWEEN'77 AND APRIL OF78. SO IT WILL BE 38 YEARS OLD. HOW MANY OF THE DOWNTOWN OWNERS, PROPRIETORS RGS ET CETERA ARE ACTUALLY THINKING OF WHAT HAPPENS WITH THE INCREASED PRUBLT OF WATER COMING UP SECOND AND THIRD STREET BECAUSE OF THE PROBLEMS WE HAVE DOWNTOWN? WHAT WILL WE WORRY ABOUT WHEN THE POWER SYSTEM GOES OUT WHICH IT COULD. NOW WE HAVE THE STORES, THEY WILL BE RUNNING WITH NO ELECTRICITY AND THEY MAY HAVE TO CLOSE FOR A WHILE. WE HAVE TO STOP KICKING THE CAN DOWN THE ROAD. THIS IS A WAY OF STARTING TO DO IT. I'LL GIVE YOU AN EXAMPLE. HERE'S MY FRUSTRATION. WE HAVE A GREAT GROUP OF PEOPLE TONIGHT. THEY ARE VERY PROUD RGS VERY EMOTIONALLY INVOLVED WITH OUR CITY. BUT RIGHT NOW, I THINK WHAT THEY ARE PREACHING IS WE ARE GOING TO HAVE A SODOM GOMORA TIME EVENT IF WE PUT PAID PARKING IN. I DON'T SEE THE CREATIVE ALTINATIVES. THIS IS INPUT I GOT FROM A LIDY WHO IS NOT A RESIDENT OF THE CITY. SHOW SAID LET BREATH DECAY IN PLACE AND BECOME RIFFRAFF TO PROTECT THE SHORE LINE. THIS WILL ALLOW THE WATER FRONT TO HAVE A MORE UNIFORM DECAY IN PLACE LOOK JUST LIKE THE WATER FRONT NORTH OF BREKS. ALL OF YOU HAVE BEEN IN HERE FOR TEN YEARS. I HAVEN'T HEARD ONE COMPLAINT WHEN I LOOK NORTH OF BREKS. THAT WHOLE WATER FRONT IS LOOKING WORSE YEAR BY YEAR. IT HAS NOT IMPROVED. WE MAY HAVE TAKEN DOWN ONE OR TWO BUILDINGS BUT IT IS GOING TOCONTINUE TO DECAY. IT LOOKS LIKE WE HAVE PEOPLE THAT ARE ARE MORE THAN HAPPY TO SLOSH THROUGH THE WATER. MAYBE WE WILL HAVE ROW BOAT RACES GOING UP FRONT STREET WHEN WOE GET A HEAVY

RAIN, THANK YOU. . >> THANK YOU. NEXT WE HAVE MR.

MICHAEL SHARP. >> I'M MIKE SHARP, 130 NORTH NINETY STREET. I THOUGHT IT WAS IRONIC AT THE LAST MEETING WHEN SPEAKERS SAID PEOPLE SHOULDN'T BE AFRAID TO SPEAK OUT AGAINST PAID PARKING. WHEN I LEFT, SHE SAID THANK YOU FOR SPEAKING UP FOR US. I SPOKE IN FAVOR OF PAID PARKING ONE TIME ON FACEBOOK AND WAS SO FISH SLY ATTACKED THAT I WOULD NOT DO IT AGAIN. I HAVE HAD SIMILAR PEOPLE SAY THIPGS TO ME OVER THE PAST SEVERAL WEEKS.

ALL OF THE MISINFORMATION AND FAKE NEWS LIKE CITY BUSINESSES WILL LOSE MILLIONS AND BUSINESSES WILL CLOSE IS MADE UP NONSENSE WITH NO BASIS IN FACT. PEOPLE ARE NOT GOING TO ABANDON DOWNTOWN OVER PAYING A FEW DOLLARS DOWNTOWN TO PARK. IF YOU ARE A CITY RESIDENT, YOU PROBABLY WON'T PAY ANYTHING. IF YOU ARE A NONCITY RESIDENT, YOU CAN BUY A YEARLY PASS FOR $100, 28 CENTS A DAY. I WENT TO A MUSIC VENUE THAT OPENED DOWNTOWN AND ORDERED TWO DRINKS. THE BILL WAS $27 AND WITH A TIP, $35.

BEER PRICES ON THE WALL WERE FROM $6 TO $9. THE EVENT WAS

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WELL ATTENDED. ANYONE WILLING TO PAY THAT IS GOING TO BOYCOTT OUR CENTER STREET? NEPTUNE BEACH, ATLANTIC BEACH ALL HAVE PAID PARKING. YOU WILL BE LUCKY TO FIND A SPOT. THE PEOPLE WHO REGULARLY COME DOWNTOWN AND SPEND MONEY WILL CONTINUE TO DO THAT. THE NAY SAYERS WANT TO TALK ABOUT PAID PARKING WHERE IT DIDN'T WORK OR TALK ABOUT FERNADINA BEACH 45 YEARS AGO. IT IS NOT THE SAME PLACE IT WAS FOUR AND A HALF DECADES AGO. WE HAVE A MILLION PLUS VISITORS COMING DOWN CENTER STREET EVERY YEAR. TH COUNTY IS CURRENTLY EXPERIENCING EXPLOSIONIVE GROWTH. THOSE PEOPLE WILL COME TO CENTER STREET TOO BECAUSE IT IS DOWNTOWN FOR ALL OF NAS OW COUNTY. ALL OF THE USERS SHOULD HELP PAY TO HELP SUPPORT IT AND MAINTAIN IT. MOST OF THE CITY TAXPAYERS ALREADY PAY A HUGE BILL ON TOP OF THE TAX BILL FROM THE COUNTY. THERE ARE A FEW LONGTIME RESIDENTS AND PROPERTY OWNERS THAT MAY ONLY PAY A COUPLE HUNDRED A YEAR IN PROPERTY TAX AND THEY DON'T CARE ABOUT THE REST OF US GETTING HAMMERED WITH ANOTHER INCREASE. I'M GLAD WE HAVE A CITY COMMISSION WITH THE COURAGE TO DO WHAT IS RIGHT FOR THE OVERWHELMING MAJORITY OF CITY TAXPAYERS.

>> THANK YOU. NEXT WE HAVE MR. ORLANDO AMEALIO.

>> 1441 SOUTH 14TH STREET, FERNADINA BEACH, FLORIDA. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR, COMMISSIONERS. I'M A CITY RESIDENT AND ALSO OWN COMMERCIAL PROPERTY IN THE CITY WHERE WHERE RUN MY BUSINESS. I WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE THE PRIVILEGE TO SHARE AND ADDRESS THE GOVERNMENT WITHOUT FEARS. THESE ARE PROTECTED BY THE FIRST AMENDMENT, GARNING FREEDOM OF SPEECH, PRESS, ASSEMBLY AND THE ABILITY TO PROTEST. IT EMPOWERS EACH OF US TO RAISE OUR VOICES AND SHAPE OUR COMMUNITY REGARDLESS OF OUR POSITIONS. I BELIEVE THIS IS MY FIRST TIME ADDRESSING THE CITY COMMISSION. SO YOU GOT ME OUT OF THE HOUSE. I HAVE BEEN WATCHING THE PAID PARKING DRAMA DEBATE AND UNFOLD IN THE CHEAP SEATS ONLINE, IN PERSON, AND I GUESS I'M TRYING TO GIVE YOU A BIT OF ADVICE. IT'S SIMPLE, READ THE ROOM. READ THE ROOM, NO FUSS.

THERE ARE OBVIOUSLY TWO SIDES ON THIS, ANTIAND PRO, AND PROBABLY SOME FOLKS IN THE MIDDLE WHO ARE IMBIVALENT OR HAVEN'T MADE A DECISION OR DON'T CARE BECAUSE THEY HAVE TOO MANY OTHER THINGS ON THEIR PLATE. REGARDLESS OF WHERE EVERYONE LANDS, I THINK THERE IS CONSENSUS ON ONE THING. WHEN YOUR CONSTITUENCY IS TELLING YOU THAT WE WANT TO DECIDE THIS ISSUE FOR OURSELVES, YOU SHOULD LISTEN. AGAIN, READ THE ROOM. SADLY, DESPITE EVERYTHING THAT EVERYONE HAS SAID HERE, IT APPEARS AS IF THE DIE MAY BE CAST FOR AM MAJORITY OF YOU. MAYBE THERE IS ONE VOICE IN THE DESERT TELLING YOU TO STOP. BUT THE REST IT SEEMS THE DIE IS CAST. SO MY CONCERN IS IF, MOST LIKELY WHEN THIS PETITION GETS ON THE BALLOT AND IF IT GETS A MUJRT TO BE ADOPTED AND THE RULES CHANGE AND WE ARE IN A CONTRACT, HOW WILL WE ADDRESS THAT? IS THE CONTRACT BEING CANCELED? WHO IS GOING TO BE LEFT FOOTING THE BILL? AND IT IS GOING TO BE US. AND FOR THE RECORD, YOU GET TO DIP INTO MY POCKET TWICE AND I DON'T GET ANY DISCOUNTS. I HAVEN'T OWNED MOY HOUSE THAT LONG. HAVEN'T OWNED BY OFFICE THAT LONG. YOU ARE ARE RAISING MY TAXES ALREADY. AGAIN I ASK YOU, READ THE ROOM, TAKE A STEP BACK, LISTEN, LET YOUR CONSTITUENTS GO FORWARD WITH THE PETITION AND DO

THE RIGHT THING. >> THANK YOU. NEXT WE HAVE MR.

RICHARD OSER. >> THANK YOU. RICHARD DOSER, 676 KING GEORGE LANE. MANY OF THE COMMENTS ABOUT THE ISSUE DEAL WITH THE CHARACTER OF THE CITY. THE WAY I SEE THIS, THREE THINGS ROUTINELY DAMAGE THE CITY'S CHARACTER. ONE IS JUST GROWTH.

YOU KNOW WHEN THE CITY TRANSFORMED IN THE MID-0S, THERE WERE 30,000 POPAL. . TODAY THERE ARE 100,000. THE OTHER THING IS THE CARS THAT PEOPLE DRIVE. THE D.O.T. SAID THERE WERE 2100

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VEHICLES A DAY ON KEY ROADS IN NAS OW COUNTY. THAT NUMBER IS CLIMBING. THERE ARE THE TOURISTS AND THE CITY TRANSFORMED INTO THE WAY IT LOOKS NOW, NOBODY BOTHERED TO COUNT THE TOURISTS.

TODAY THERE ARE OVER A MILLION TOURISTS WHO ALWAYS COME TO OUR ISLANDS. 79% OF THEM COME TO OUR CITY WHICH MEANS THEY LITERALLY ADD THOUSANDS AND THOUSAND DOLLARS OF CARS TO OUR CITY OVER THE COURSE OF THE YEAR. WE HAVE THE CARS, THE CONGESTION AND NOISE AND ALL OF THIS CHIPS AWAY AT OUR SMALL TOWN CHARM YEAR AFTER YEAR AND THEY AFFECT THE QUALITY AND CHARACTER OF OUR LIFE AND THERE IS NOTHING WE CAN DO ABOUT GROWTH. HOW DO WE SUSTAIN THE SENSE OF DELIGHT THE CITY GIVES US, HOW DO WE MAKE THE CITY MORE RELAXED, MORE NEIGHBORLY AND MORE BEAUTIFUL? WE CAN'T DO ANYTHING ABOUT THE GROWTH. BUT THE ONE THING THE CITY CONTROLS AND MANAGES IS OUR PARKING INVENTORY. SO I WOULD SUGGEST A KIND OF PAID PARKING. WE CAN LOOK AT OTHER CITIES, HUNDREDS OF THEM TO SEE WHAT THEY HAVE DONE BUT A KIND OF PAID PARKING WHERE CITIZENS, TAXPAYERS PARK FOR FREE, WHERE THE PRICE FOR VISITORS IS BASED ON DEMAND AND WHERE THE PARKING REVENUE IS USED TO IMPROVE STREETS, SIDEWALKS, LANDSCAPE AND BENCHES EXACTLY WHERE IT IS COLLECTED. IF WE DO THAT, WE COULD PROTECT THE PART OF THE CITY WE LOVE THE MOST. MANY USE PARKING TO MAINTAIN HISTORIC SITES AND PRESERVE THEIR CITY'S CHARACTER. MANY CITIES USE THE MONEY TO SUPPORT LOCAL FESTIVAL, PUBLIC ART PROJECTS BRINGING MORE CULTURE INTO THE CITY. MANY PLANT TREES TO MAKE THE CITY MORE BEAUTIFUL AND IMPROVE AIR QUALITY AND CREATE MORE AND APPRECIATED SHADE. SEA SIDE FLORIDA USES PARKING ARE REVENUE TO FUND SHUTTLE SERVICES THAT CONNECTS TO THE CITY TO REDUCE CONGESTION AND SUSTAIN SMALL TOWN FEEL. A NUMBER OF CITIES HAVE EMPLOYED A SYSTEM LIKE THIS TO HELP DOWNTOWN BUSINESSES. ASPEN, COLUMBUS, ALL USE A PLAN LIKE THIS SO THEY CAN MAKE SURE SPACES ARE AVAILABLE NEAR LOCAL BUSINESSES AND RESTAURANTS ALL THE TIME.

>> THANK YOU. NEXT WE HAVE MR. JOSEPH MAIZE.

>> GOOD EVENING, MY NAME IS JOSEPH MAZE, I LIVE 510 ALATCHA STREET. I'M HERE TO ASK A SIMPLE BUT SERIOUS QUESTION.

WHAT ARE YOU DOING? HONESTLY, WHAT ARE YOU DOING? DESPITE OVERWHELMING OPPOSITION FROM OUR COMMUNITY, YOU CONTINUE TO PUSH FORWARD WITH THIS PLAN FOR PAID PARKING AS IF PUBLIC CONCERN AND INPUT DOESN'T MATTER. IT'S DISAPPOINTING AND FRANKLY IT'S FRIGHTENING. WHEN RESIDENTS ASK FOR A PAUSE, A CHANCE FOR A VOTE TO BE HEARD, YOU DON'T LISTEN. INSTEAD YOU ARE BULL DOZING AHEAD. FRANKLY, THAT'S NOT LEADERSHIP, THAT'S ARROGANCE.

WHAT IS ESPECIALLY DISHEARTENING FOR ME IS THAT TWO OF YOU WHOM I VOTED FOR ONCE OPPOSED PAID PARKING. NOW WATCHING YOU REVERSE COURSE FEELS MORE THAN A BROKEN PROMISE BUT A BETRAYAL OF TRUST. I HAVE HEARD YOU SAY THIS IS THE ONLY VIABLE OPTION. IT'S NOT THCHLT IT'S THE EASIEST ONE. THE ONE THAT AVOIDS THE HARD WORK OF A THOUGHTFUL, COMMUNITY DRIVEN SOLUTION.

EXPEDIENCE SHOULD NFSH COME BEFORE RESPONSIBILITY. I HEAR YOU TALK ABOUT HOW MUCH YOU LOVE THIS COMMUNITY AND OUR WAY OF LIFE AND DOWNTOWN. I WANT TO BELIEVE THAT. BUT IF THIS PLAN MOVES FORWARD, YOU WILL BE ACTSIVELY CONTRIBUTING TO ITS DECLINE. YOU WILL BE MAKING DOWNTOWN LESS WELCOMING, LESS SUCCESSFUL, LESS VIBRANT. IT ALSO SEEMS CLEAR TO MANY OF US THAT THIS DECISION IS BEING HEAVILY INFLUENCED, MAYBE TOO HEAVILY BY THE CITY MANAGER AND THE COMMISSIONER WHO APPEARS WILL BENEFIT FROM THIS. PLEASE DON'T ASSUME THAT THE PUBLIC DOESN'T T SEE WHAT'S GOING ON. WE GET IT. LET ME REMIND YOU OF

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A QUOTE FROM MR. SPOCK, STAR TREK, YES, STAR TREK. THAT FEELS VERY RELEVANT RIGHT NOW. THE NEEDS OF THE MANY OUTWEIGH THE NEEDS OF THE FEW OR THE ONE. RIGHT NOW, YOU ARE NOT SERVING THE NEEDS OF THE MANY. WE DESERVE MORE THAN IGNORED VOICES, BROKEN PROMISES, AND EASY SHORT CUTS. WE DESERVE TRANSPARENCY, ACCOUNTABILITY AND A REAL COMMITMENT TO THE PEOPLE YOU SERVE. THIS COMMUNITY DESERVES BETTER. BETTER LEADERSHIP, BETTER SOLUTIONS, AND BETTER INTEGRITY.

>> THANK YOU. NEXT UP WE HAVE MS. ANDREA LEE.

>> ANDREA LEE, 203 SOUTH 18TH STREET. I RECENTLY WENT ON A TRIP TO A SMALL COASTAL TOWN IN MASSACHUSETTS, HAD MANY SIMILARITIES TO THIS TOWN, A WORKING WATER FRONT, HISTORIC CHARM, IT HAD A LOT OF TOURISM. IN FACT, IT WAS OVER RUN BY TOURISM. ONE STREET BECAME A PEDESTRIAN STREET IN THE MIDDLE OF THE DAY BECAUSE THERE WERE SO MANY TOURISTS EVEN THOUGH CARS WERE ALLOWED TO GO DOWN IT. IT HAD PAID PARKING. I HAD NO IDEA BEFORE I WENT ON VACATION TO THIS PLACE IT HAD PAID PARKING.

IT WAS AWFUL. IT RUINED THE PICTURESQUE ASPECT OF THIS TOWN.

IT WAS CONFUSING. THERE WERE DIFFERENT RULES IN DIFFERENT AREAS. SOME WAS FOR RESIDENTS ONLY. IT WASN'T CLEARLY MARKED.

ON THE METER IT SAID, IF YOU ARE CONFUSED ABOUT THE METERS CALL THE POLICE. I DIDN'T GET MY TICKET, I PAID MY MONEY, IF YOU DON'T GET URTICKET, YOU GET ANOTHER TICKET AND I CALLED THE POLICE. I SAID THIS IS RIDICULOUS. I DON'T THINK POLICE WANT PHONE CALLS FROM PEOPLE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO USE THE PARKING SYSTEM. BUT IT WAS CONFUSING. SOME PLACES YOU COULDN'T PARK OVERNIGHT. SOME PLACES YOU COULD. T THAT LED ME TO THINK, HERE DOWNTOWN, SOMETIMES PEOPLE DO LEAVE THEIR CARSOVER NIGHT IF THEY HAVE HAD TOO MUCH TO DRINK BECAUSE IT BECOMES A SAFETY ISSUE. WHAT WILL HAPPEN WHEN THEY HAVE TO PAY FOR PARKING? WILL THEY GET IN THEIR VEHICLE INTOXICATED AND DRIVE HOME BECAUSE THEY DON'T WANT TO PAY FOR PARKING? I FEEL FRUSTRATED BECAUSE WE HAVE TOGGED ABOUT LET'S JUST PUT ALL OF THE BURDEN ON THE TOURISTS AND NOT THE TAXPAYERS. I'M A TAXPAYER BUT I'M DOWNTOWN AT LEAST THREE TIMES A WEEK, EATING, HAVING A BEVERAGE RGS SPENDING TESTIMONY AT THE LIBRARY, WHATEVER. I LOVE THIS TOWN AND I LIKE TO SPEND TIME HERE AND I DON'T WANT TO PAY TO SPEND TIME HERE. BUT I FEEL LIKE I'M BEING PUNISHED AS A TAXPAYER. I HAVE TO PAY TAXES AND THEN PARKING METERS. AND IT'S FRUSTRATING. I JUST ENCOURAGE YOU TO COME UP WITH SOME CREATIVE SOLUTIONS. WE KNOW THERE IS MONEY. TDC IS PART OF THE PROBLEM. IF 65% OF THEIR BUDGET DID NOT GO TO ADVERTISING, WE COULD POSSIBLY CONTROL SOME OF THIS GROWTH. IF SOME OF IT WENT TOWARDS INFRASTRUCTURE, DOWNTOWN, THAT WOULD HELP. YOU ARE ALL CREATIVE, CRITICAL THINKERS. I URGE YOU TO COME UP WITH CREATIVE SOLUTIONS. THANK YOU. NEXT WE HAVE MR. PAUL LORI.

>> . >> GOOD EVENING, PAUL LORI, 11 SOUTH SEVENTH STREET, LONG BODE DRIVE. PROUD RESIDENT OF FERNADINA BEACH. SO I NEVER COME UP WITH PREPARED NOTES AND I WON'T APOLOGIZE FOR IT. YOU HEAR PEOPLE TALKING ABOUT APOLOGIZING COMING UP WITH REPAIRED NOTES. SO I JUST LISTENED TO ALL OF THE SPEAKERS. THERE ARE DEFINITELY TWO SOIDZ SIDES TO THIS. BOTH SIDES PASSIONATE OF WHAN THEY WANT AND I BELIEVE BOTH WANT WHAT IS BEST FOR THE CITY. WE ALL LOVE THIS CITY. BUT I THINK -- I MIGHT WANT TO SAY I KNOW. I'M CONFUSED WHAT TO THINK MYSELF SOMETIMES IN THE ARGUMENT.

BECAUSE YOU HAVE TORN A TOWN APART. FOR 2% OF THE BUDGET, YOU HAVE RIPPED US APART. THIS IS THE GREATEST SWELL OUT THERE RIGHT NOW THAT IS COMING COULD JUST BE ENJOYING MYSELF ON AN ISLAND AND WE ARE SITTING HERE DOING PETITIONS AND EVERYTHING

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BECAUSE I THINK OF YOUR ARROGANCE THAT YOU THINK YOU ARE JUST RIGHT. YOUR WHOLE CAMPAIGN HINGED ON SUMMER VIEW, I HEARD IT, MR. POYNTER, LET'S CREATE SURVEY MONKEYS SO WE WILL GET THE BEST INFORMATION FROM PEOPLE WHO WILL BRING IT FORTH AT TOWN HALLS. I WENT BACK. I KEPT NOTES FOR MYSELF. I WENT BACK TO THE VIDEOS. AND I LISTENED TO WHAT YOU ALL SPOKE ABOUT. I WISH NOW WE HAD THE MAYOR BACK IN ONE OF THE CAMPAIGNS LISTENING TO HIS POSITION. BECAUSE AS SOMEBODY MENTIONED, IT IS REALLY MISLEADING. I WAS EXCITED WHEN YOU CAME IN. STRONG BUSINESSMAN, GOING TO BE GREAT FOR THE COMMUNITY. WE ARE GOING TO MAKE GOOD SPENDING DECISIONS. I HAVE NEVER SINCE I LIVED HERE BEEN MORE DISAPPOINTED IN A COMMISSION. I JUST HAVEN'T.

IT'S TERRIBLE. YOU HAVE SO MANY PEOPLE SPEAKING AND DON'T WANT PAID PARKING. YOU OF ALL ACKNOWLEDGED IT YOURSELF. WE HAVE THE SMARTEST PEOPLE IN THIS COMMUNITY. I'M SURE WE COULD COME UP WITH 2% OF THE BUDGET TO FUND DOWNTOWN. THE TDC RENTS OR LEASES THE TRAIN DEPOT. THEY HAVE BEEN FANTASTIC STEWARDS OF THE BUILDING. I'M SURE THEY COULD DO SOMETHING FOR US. I HEAR DOOM AND GLOOM. I HEAR DOOM AND GLOOM ON THE OTHER SIDE. THE ELECTRIC IS GOING TO FAIL. THE CITY'S GOING TO SHUT DOWN. WE ARE REVITALIZING SECOND STREET RIGHT NOW WITHOUT PAID PARKING.

HOW DID WE DO ALL THAT WE DID WITH ALATCHERA WITHOUT PAID PARKING? I DON'T SO THE DOOM AND GLOOM. IF YOU WANT TO TALK ABOUT KICKING THE CAN DOWN THE ROAD, WE CAN CALL IT THE SAME THING WITH FRIVOLOUS SPENDING ALL OVER THE PLACE. YOU WERE READY TO CUT A $175,000 CHECK FOR A TROLLEY. THE LAST MEETING, I HEARD HAD, WE HAVE A $500,000 PERPLUS, LET'S PUT $100,000 IN CONSERVATION. WOE HAVE PROVIDED SOLUTIONS. PAID PARKING IS NOT THE ANSWER. THANK YOU. WE HAVE JEN BURNS NEXT. THAT IS OUR LAST SPEAKER CARD THAT I HAVE HERE. OKAY ARE YOU FILLING OUT A FORM? PLEASE DO. AND COME TO THE PODIUM. YOU CAN FILL IT OUT IF YOU WOULD LIKE. TINA CHRISTENER, I JUST DROVE 130 MILES FROM VIRGINIA AND JUST GOT BACK AND RAN DOWN HERE TO SPEAK ABOUT THIS. I KNOW THE CITY IS HITTING FINANCIAL ISSUES . RIGHT NOW THERE IS AN UNDERSTANDING IF WE DON'T DO THIS, WE DON'T HAVE THE FUNDS TO TAKE CARE OF BREKS. I PERSONALLY QUESTION WHY WE NEED THE SEA WALL SO BADLY. I LIVE IN A HOME THAT HAS BEEN HERE SINCE 1891. IT HAS BEEN FINE. IT IS MY UNDERSTANDING THAT DEVELOPERERS ON THE NORTH END HAVE TO INVEST A LOT MORE ON INFRASTRUCTURE TO DEVELOP UNLESS THERE IS A SEA WALL. I DON'T KNOW IF THAT IS TRUE. SO I JUST REALLY DON'T THINK PAID PARKING IS RIGHT FOR FERNADINA. IT WILL CHANGE THE CHARACTER OF THE ENTIRE DOWNTOWN. IT WILL ADD SURVEILLANCE TACTICS TO OUR DOWNTOWN AREA. THESE COMPANIES, THEY MAY EVEN USE THE DATA BASES FOR MARKETING. IT IS ALSO GOING TO TURN MY NEIGHBORHOOD ON BEACH STREET INTO A PARKING LOT AT ALL TIMES. MY NEIGHBORHOOD DOESN'T EVEN HAVE SIDEWALKS. SO I'M GOING TO HAVE TO DECIDE BETWEEN WALKING THROUGH PEOPLE'S GARDENS OR WALKING IN THE MIDDLE OF THE STREET. PLEASE DON'T APPROVE THIS. I HAVE SUPPORTED A LUT OF YOU. I DIDN'T EVER KNOW THAT A LOT OF YOU WOULD BE FOR PAID PARKING. PLEASE DON'T SUPPORT THIS. THAT'S ALL I HAVE

TO SAY. >> THANK YOU. THOSE ARE ALL THE SPEAKER CARDS I HAVE IN FRONT OF ME. THERE IS A MOTION AND A SECOND ON THE FLOOR. IS THERE ANY FURTHER COMMISSIONER

DISCUSSION? >> YEAH.

>> COMMISSIONER TUTEN? >> I HAVE BEEN THINKING ABOUTTHIS ISSUE FOR -- I DON'T KNOW, A YOUR, EIGHT MONTHS. I HAVE SPOKEN TO HUNDREDS OF RESIDENTS AND SCORES AND SCORES

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OF MEETINGS. IT IS AN EXTREMELY DIFFICULT VOTE FOR ME. I CANNOT LOOK AWAY FROM THESE THREE PROJECTS THAT WE NEED TO GET DONE. THE CITY LAST YEAR HAD A RECORD TEN DAYS OF SUNNY DAY FLOODING. WE ARE PROJECTED TO HAVE AS MANY AS 50 DAYS OF SUNNY DAY FLOODING BEFORE THE END OF THE CENTURY. PAST RESIDENTS PROTECTED THESE OLD BUILDINGS, THESE GORGEOUS OLD OAKS FOR US IF WE DON'T BUILD A SEA WALL AS THE ADAPTATION PLAN THAT WAS STRATEGY NUMBER ONE, WE MUST BUILD THE SEA WALL. IF WE DON'T BUILD A SEA WALL TO PROTECT THE DOWNTOWN, THEN THE VERY CHARACTER THAT WE LOVE WILL BE LOST. MOST OF US REMEMBER WHEN HURRICANE MATTHEW CAME THROUGH AND HOW MUCH FLOODING THE CITY ENDURED AND THAT WAS A CATEGORY 2 HURRICANE THAT DIDN'T EVEN STRIKE. WE HAVE EXPLORED NUMEROUS SORTS OF REVENUE. THE CITY HAS OBTAINED GRANTS FROM THE STATE FOR SEA WALL CONSTRUCTION. PREVIOUS COMMISSION WAS AWARDED A MILLION DOLLARS FOR DESIGN. IT IS MOSTLY SPEN T. THE DESIGN IS MOSTLY FINISHED, AND $2 MILLION TO BUILD. THIS COMMISSION HAD TO REQUEST AN EXTEPGZ ON THE GRANT. WE WERE AWARDED IN JULY ANOTHER $4 MILLION TO BUILD THE SEW WALL. WE HAVE $6 MILLION TO BUILD A $30 MILLION SEA WALL. IF WE DON'T BUILD IT ALL AT ONCE BECAUSE OF MOBILIZATION COSTS, WE INCUR MORE COSTS. WE CAN'T FEASIBLY BUILD PIECE MEAL. I THINK MOST PEOPLE DON'T WANT TO SEE BREKS ROT AT THE WATER FRONT. THE BUILDING NEEDS TO COME DOWN. THE COSTS ARE INSURMOUNTABLE IN A NORMAL BUDGET. I DON'T WANT PAID PARKING. I HAVE BEEN COMING HERE SINCE THE 80S, MY IN-LAWS HAVE OWNED A PROPERTY HERE SINCE THE 70S. I KNOW IT WILL BE DIFFICULT AT FIRST. I KNOW IT WILL HAVE UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCES WE NEED TO FIX. I HAVE SPOKEN TO SO MANY PEOPLE. I ALSO KNOW THAT WE NEED A BOND. WE NEED A REALLY BIG BOND, LIKE 20, $30 MILLION BOND. THAT BOND HAS COST. YOU HAVE TO PAY IT EVERY YEAR. YOU HAVE TO PAY THE INVESTORS LIKE $1 MILLION, $2 MILLION A YEAR. WE EITHER ATTACH THAT AS A TAX WHICH FRANKLY AS AN INDIVIDUAL, I WOULD BE HAPPY TO ABSORB THAT TAX. I'D BOW HAPPY TO ABSORB THE TAX BUT I DON'T SIT HERE FOR MYSELF. I SIT HERE FOR THE ENTIRE CITY. THERE'S AN ENORMOUS NUMBER OF OUR RESIDENTS WHO HAVE REACHED OUT TO US THAT DON'T WANT TO PAY AN ADDITIONAL TAX. WE HAVE 13% OF OUR RESIDENTS WHO LIVE BELOW THE POVERTY LINE. THE POVERTY LINE IS $32,000 FOR A FAMILY OF FOUR. THEY DEFINITELY DON'T WANT TO TAX INCREASE. WHETHER THEY OWN THEIR OWN HOME AND IT IS HOME STDED OR WITH WHETHER THEY RENT A NONHOMESTEADED PROPERTY THAT WOULD RISE. MOST OF OUR BUSINESSES ARE IN BUILDINGS WHERE THE BUSINESS DOESN'T OWN THE BUILDING. IT IS A NONHOMESTEADED PROPERTY. SO NOT HOMESTEADED PROPERTIES, IF YOU DON'T KNOW BECAUSE I WOULD ASSUME MOST OF YOU ARE ARE IN MOME STEADED PROPERTIES. THOSE ASSESSMENTS RISE AS MUCH AS 10% A YEAR. SO TAXES HIT THEM MUCH HARDER. A BUILDING OWNER WILL NOT ABSORB A TAX INCREASE. THEY WILL PUSH IT OFF ON THEIR RENTERS. IT'S A HUGE ISSUE THAT IMPACTS EVERYONE ON THIS ISLAND.

AS ONE OF THE SPEAKERS SAID, WE CANNOT CONTROL THE GROWTH. THE

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GROWTH IS COMING AT US. PARKING IS A REALLY EXPENSIVE ASSET THAT THE TAXPAYERS PAY FOR BUT THEN WE TURN AROUND AND GIVE IT AWAY FOR FREE. AND WE DON'T DO THAT WITH MOST OF THE ASSETS. WE CHARGE AT THE GOLF COURSE, MARINA, AIRPORT, GYM, CHARGE ALL OVER THE PLACE. I MEAN WE EVEN CHARGE BY THE FOOT AT THE MARINA. THE BIGGER THE BOAT, THE MORE IT'S CHARGED. WHEN THE RFP WENT OUT, WE ASKED ALL OF THE PROPOSALS, PLEASE, GIVE US BACK A PROPOSAL THAT WOULD HAVE SOME KIND OF A DISCOUNT FOR THE RESIDENTS. IN THE SEVEN PROPOSALS, THAT WAS ALL IN THERE. I'M IN STRONG FAVOR OF THAT. IF WE DO THIS RGS VOTE FOR THIS TONIGHT THAT RES DEPENDENTS CAN PARK FOR FREE. YOU HAVE AN ANNUAL DIGITAL PASS. THEN WE WOULD HAVE HUNDREDS OF QUESTIONS TO ANSWER IF WE VOTED FOR THIS. DO WE WANT TO GIVE A PASS TO COUNTY RESIDENTS. I KNOW THERE HAS BEEN ENORMOUS AMOUNT OF OPPOSITION ON THIS ISSUE. BUT A LOT OF PEOPLE OPPOSED DON'T PAY TAXES IN THE CITY. THEY DON'T PAY FOR PARKING NOW. THEY CERTAINLY DON'T WANT TO PAY FOR IT IN THE FUTURE. I JUST FEEL STUCK IN A PLACE WHERE EATER I CHOOSE TO KICK THE CAN DOWN THE ROAD ON THREE MAJOR PROJECT THAT ARE ALL FOR THE DOWNTOWN OR WE RAISE TAXES OR WE FIND ALTERNATIVE REVENUE. OUR BOUND COUNSELOR HAS TOLD US THAT THE REVENUE RAISED, SEVEN PROPOSALS ESTIMATE REVENUE BETWEEN $1.5 MILLION AND $4 MILLION. $1.5 MILLION A YEAR, ARE REPEATED EVERY SINGLE YEAR WOULD BE ENOUGH TO PAY THE BOND AND WE WOULDN'T T HAVE TO GET THAT MONEY FROM TAXPAYERS. I APPRECIATE THE PETITION. WE WOULD CERTAINLY HAVE TO PUT IN LEGAL MEASURES TO HONOR WHATEVER WE ARE LEGALLY REQUIRED TO HONOR FOR THE PETITION. BUT AT THIS POINT, I'M GOING TO VOTE THAT WE MOVE FORWARD WITH PAID PARKING. I WILL SAY THE RANKING, I WILL NOT VOTE FOR SB PLUS. MY CHOICE IN LOOKING, I READ THROUGH ALL SEVEN PROPOSALS BEFORE THEY WERE MADE PUBLIC. AS A CITY EMPLOYEE, WE COULD COME HERE. I CAME AND SAT FOR HOURS AND READ ALL SEVEN . AND THEN WHEN THESE THREE WERE ADVANCED TO US, MY PREFERENCE WOULD BE, IF WE MOVE FORWARD THAT IT WOULD BE WITH ONE PARKING. I WOULD LIKE TO DISCUSS THAT AT GREAT LENGTH IF WE ARE GOING TO MOVE FORWARD ON THIS. THAT'S ALL I WILL SAY.

>> THANK YOU. I HAVE THE VICE MAYOR AND THEN COMMISSIONER.

>> I THINK BACK IN APRIL WHEN THIS CAME UP, AND I GAVE A PRETTY EMPASSIONED SPEECH HOW I WAS AGAINST PAID PARKING.

THAT'S STILL THE CASE. PERSONALLY, I'M STILL AGAINST PAID PARKING. BUT YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU SIT UP HERE, YOU HAVE TO MAKE DECISIONS FOR OTHER PEOPLE. YOU HAVE TO BE OBJECTIVE. YOU HAVE TO LOOK AT IT. SO WHAT I DID IS I REACHED OUT TO PEOPLE WHO WERE FOR PAID PARKING. I REACHED OUT TO PAID PARKING EXPERTS SO I COULD UNDERSTAND THE TECHNOLOGY THAT IS BEHIND IT. SO WHEN YOU WEIGH A LUT OF THESE THINGS, YOU CAN HONESTLY START TO SEE SOME OF THE OTHER SIDES. BUT THE ONE THING THAT I CANNOT ADD UP ON THE BALANCE SHEET, THIS IS OVERWHELMINGLY UNPOPULAR WITH THE CITIZENS. IT'S NOT EVEN CLOSE. THIS IS AN 80/20 ISSUE. I DON'T CARE WHAT METRIC YOU USE. I DON'T CARE HOW YOU WANT TO LOOK AT IT, WE CAN GO THROUGH ANYTHING YOU WANT TO BUT EVERY ARGUMENT THAT YOU CAN POSSIBLY BRING UP HERE, I'M GOING TO ANSWER WITH THE PEOPLE DON'T WANT THIS. AND AT SOME POINT IN TIME, YOUR ARE ELECTED TO DO THE WILL OF THE PEOPLE.

AND WHEN THEY ARE TELLING YOU THEY DON'T WANT THIS, YOU HAVE TO LISTEN TO THEM. I WILL NOT BE WITH PAID PARKING. I WILL STAND

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WITH THE OVERWHELMING MAJORITY OF THE CITIZENS THAT CHOOSE TO

NOT HAVE THIS IMPLEMENTED. >> THANK YOU, VICE MAYOR.

COMMISSIONER POYNTER? >> YEAH. I HAVE CERTAINLY BEEN THE WHIPPING BOY ON THIS BECAUSE I HAVE THE BUSINESSES DOWNTOWN AND EVERYONE FOR WHATEVER REASON FEELS THIS IS INGREIGEIATING ME AND IS GOING TO HURT EVERY OTHER BUSINESS. FIRST I WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE AND I APPRECIATE THE EFFORTS PEOPLE ARE DOING FOR TRYING TO GET THE PETITION TOGETHER. WHEN PEOPLE SAY YOU ARE NOT LISTENING, I HAVE HEARD AND ANSWERED ALMOST EVERY EMAIL, I HOPE I HAVE ANSWERED EVERY EMAIL THAT I HAVE GOTTEN. I HAVE EXPLAINED MY POSITION, WHY I BELIEVE THE WAY I BELIEVE, AND THE INTERESTING THING IS, THERE'S NOTHING I CAN SAY NOW, HERE THAT'S GOING TO CHANGE ANYONE'S MIND WHO IS AGAINST PAID PARKING. I'M NOT GOING TO WORRY ABOUT THAT. I CAN'T CHANGE YOUR MIND THE WAY I FEEL. BUT I AM GOING TO ADDRESS THIS TO MY FELLOW COMMISSIONERS. WHEN I WAS A COMMISSIONER THE FIRST TIME, WE HAD THIS THING CALLED FORWRD WARD FERNADINA. WE HAD LOTS OF PEOPLE HERE SAYING THEY CAN'T DO THIS, CAN'T AFFORD IT, THIS WAS GOING TO COST $3.85 AVERAGE ON AN ELECTRIC BILL. WE BORROWED MONEY AND WE LOCK BOXED IT FOR THE LIBRARY. WE HAD EVERYONE IN HERE SCREAMING WHY ARE YOU SPENDING MONEY ON A LIBRARY? THIS IS RIDTUOUS. GET SOME KINDLES. DON'T EXPAND THE LIBRARY. WHAT DO THEY DONOW? THEY GET 700 PEEP ON AVERAGE A DAY GOING TO THE LIBRARY. BUT WE ALL GOT THROWN OUT OF OFFICE.

RON SAP WHO WORKED HIS REAR OFF FOR THE GREENWAY GOT THROWN OUT OF OFFICE FOR THE EFFORT. 25 YEARS LATER, WE NAMED IT AFTER HIM. THE AIRPORT, WHEN I WAS A COMMISSIONER THE SECOND TIME, WE TALKED ABOUT IT WAS RUN POORLY, THE BUILDING WAS EMBARRASSING AND DILAPITATED. SO WE BUILT A NEW BUILDING AND GOT A NEW OPERATOR. YOU SAW ALL OF THE RESULTS. WE WERE LOSING MONEY EVERY YEAR, NOW WE HAVE A $2 MILLION SURPLUS. WHAT I'M SAYING TO YOU IS, SOMETIMES YOU HAVE TO MAKE A DECISION THAT IS NOT NECESSARILY POPULAR BUT I HAVE TO TELL YOU THERE HAVE BEEN AN AWFUL LAULT OF PEOPLE WHO CONTACTED ME AND AND SAID LOOK, THERE IS NO WAY I'M STANDING UP AT ONE OF THE MEETINGS AND SUPPORT PAID PARKING. IT'S NOT WORTH IT. I WANT TO THANK MY FAMILY AND MY EMPLOYEES WHO HAVE BEEN REALLY TAKING A WHOLE LOT OF BRUNT ON WHAT MY DECISION IS. IT'S NOT THEIR DECISION. THEY JUST WORK AND TROY TO MAKE A LIVING. I WANT TO THANK THEM AND MY FAMILY WITH HAVING TO DEAL WITH THAT DECISION, FOR THE BENEFIT OF THE COMMUNITY. WE HAVE KICKED THE CAN DOWN THE ROAD. I'M PROUD OF THIS COMMISSION WHO IS GOING TO SAY ENOUGH'S ENOUGH. THIS IS NOT GOING TO RUIN OUR TOWN. WE WILL HAVE DIFFERENT SCENARIOS WHEN SOMEONE MENTIONS PARKING OVERNIGHT. THERE WILL BE TIME LIMITS ON THIS. THERE WILL BE FREE PARKING AFTER 8:00 AT NIGHT. PARKING WON'T START UNTIL 10:00. THERE ARE SO MANY THINGS THAT COULD BE DONE NOW THAT COULDN'T BE DONE 10, 15 YEARS AGO WHEN WE LOOKED AT PAID PARKING THEN. THIS IS NOT SOMETHING THAT'S NEW. WE ARE CERTAINLY NOT CREATING A NEW ABILITY HERE. ALMOST EVERY TOWN IN THE UNITED STATES ESPECIALLY A TOURIST TOWN HAS PAID PARKING.

THEY ARE NOT DOING THIS TO BE MEAN SPIRITED. THEY ARE DOING IT TO HELP THE COMMUNITY TAKE CARE OF ITSELF. YOU CAN'T ASK THE SAME 8,000 PEOPLE WHO LIVE IN THE COMMUNITY TO PAY 100% OF THE EXPENSES. 25% OF THE PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY GO TO THE BEACH.

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75% DON'T GO TO THE BEACH BUT WE PAY 100% OF THE EXPEPS. LOOK AT ALL OF THE PEOPLE WHO DON'T COME DOWNTOWN WHO LIVE HERE BUT DON'T COME DOWNTOWN. THEY'RE PAYING FOR THE PARKING. PARKING IS NOT FREE. THE CITIZENS ARE PAYING FOR THE PARKING FOR EVERYONE ELSE TO ENJOY. SO THIS COMMISSION, I'M PROUD BECAUSE THIS IS NOT AN EASY DECISION. I DO APPRECIATE ALL OF THE PEOPLE WHO HAVE SPENT THIS TIME IN DOING IT. I HOPE WE CAN ALL COME TOGETHER AND FIGURE OUT THE BEST SOLUTIONS MOVING FORWARD.

THAT'S IT. THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER MINSHEW AND THEN

COMMISSIONER TUTEN. >> I KNOW I WAS CRITICIZED FOR SAYING DURING THE CAMPAIGN I WAS OPPOSED TO PAID PARKING. I WANT TO TALK TO YOU ABOUT THE OTHER THINGS I SAID IN THE CAMPAIGN THAT APPARENTLY PEOPLE FORGOT. I HAVE ALWAYS -- I HAVE CONSISTENTLY TALKED ABOUT BOGUE A BETTER STEWARD OF CITY MONEY AND USING FACTS AND DATA TO MAKE DECISIONS. ONCE I WAS ELECTED, THE FACTS PRESENTED TO ME WERE STARTLING IN AS MUCH AS WE HAVE DELAYED MAKING FINANCIAL COMMITMENTS MAINTAIN DOWNTOWN INFRASTRUCTURE. WE NEED ED TO ACT AND I'M DETERMINED TO NOT INCUMBER OUR TAXPAYERS FOR THE NEXT FIVE YEARS. PAID PARKING IS A WAY TO DO THAT. OTHERWISE, WE ARE TALKING ABOUT INCREASING MILLAGE RATES OR A GENERAL BOND REFERENDUM IN THE 2026 GENERAL ELECTION. I HAVE ALREADY TOLD THE CITY MANAGER THAT IF THE PETITION GETS APPROVED, GETS ON THE BALLOT, WE WILL ALSO NEED A GENERAL BOND REFERENDUM ON THE BALLOT AS WELL. IF YOU ARE OPPOSED TO PAID PARKING, THEN YOU ARE IN FAVOR OF RAISING YOUR TAXES FOR THE NEXT 25 YOURS WITH A GENERAL BOND REFERENDUM. I ALSO WANT TOSAY WHAT ELSE I SAID IN THE 2022 AND 2024 CAMPAIGN.

THERE IS NEVER ENOUGH MONEY TO DO ALL THE PROJECTS THAT OUR COMMUNITY WANTS DONE OR NEEDS TO BE DONE TO MAINTAIN OUR CITY INFRASTRUCTURE. THE CITY IS SUFFERING FROM YEARS OF DEFERRED MAINTENANCE ON CITY BUILDINGS, OUR HISTORIC DOWNTOWN, BEACH WALKOVERS AND STREETS. WE NEED TO LOOK FAR AND WIDE FOR ADDITIONAL RESOURCES THAT CAN COME FROM VISITORERS, PROPERTY OWNERERERS, RESIDENTS, AS WELL AS STATE AND FEDERAL GRAND RESOURCES. I'M BELIEVER IN A COST CAUSER APPROACH TO FUNDING.

LET'S LOOK AT WHO USES THE SERVICE AND HOW IT IS BEING USED TO DETERMINE HOW TO BEST PAY FOR THE SERVICE. WE HAVE BEEN TALKING ABOUT A BOND REFERENDUM TO PAY FOR NEEDED INFRASTRUCTURE AND REPLACEMENT AND IMPROVEMENT IN THE DOWNTOWN AREA FOR A NUMBER OF YEARS AND NEVER A PATH FORWARD. IN 2024, I SAID PROTECTING AND PRESERVING OUR HISTORIC DOWNTOWN IS A TOP PRIORITY. THAT INCLUDES THE SAFETY OF RESIDENTS, BUSINESS OWNERS AND THEIR BUSINESSES. A DETAILED AND CLEARLY PLANNED OUT SET OF PROJECTS IS CRITICAL TO ANY DISCUSSION. TWO ELECTION CYCLES, TWO HAVE NOW PASSED WITHOUT ANY MOVEMENT ON THIS ISSUE. ANOTHER EXAMPLE OF FAILED LEADERSHIP AND THE ABILITY TO SEE WHAT NEEDS TO BE DONE. IN 2024 IN THE OBSERVER, I ALSO SAID WE MUST FIND A CLEAR PATH FORWARD INCLUDING A FUNDING STRATEGY FOR DOWNTOWN SEA WALL, FOR DOWNTOWN INFRASTRUCTURE INCLUDING LIGHTING AND SIDING WITHES AND BETTER BUDGET IMPLEMENTATION. THAT IS WHAT I SAID FOR THE LAST THREE CAMPAIGNS, ALL OF IT. NOT JUST ONE SENTENCE ABOUT PAID PARKING.

SO AGAIN, I AM PROBABLY THE MOST FISCALLY CONSERVATIVE PERSON UP HERE ALTHOUGH MY PERSONAL POLITICS MAY BE VERY DIFFERENT.

I DONOT WANT TO RAISE THE TAXES UNNECESSARILY ON OUR CITY TAXPAYERS 12346789:^ THE REAL PROBLEM ARE THE NONHOMESTEADER PROPERTIES AND NONCOMMERCIAL PROPERTIES BECAUSE THEY WILL TAKE THE BRUNT. WE HAVE HAD COMMERCIAL PROPERTY OWNERS DOWNTOWN TELL US THAT IF WE RAISE THEIR TAXES, THAT'S FINE WITH THEM BECAUSE THEN THEY JUST PUSH THAT TAX INCREASE DOWN TO THEIR LEASE HOLDERS. AT WHAT POINT DO WE PRICE THE SMALL BUSINESSES OFF OF CENTER STREET? BECAUSE THAT WILL HAPPEN. WHO WILL REPLACE THEM? STORES LIKE THE STORE ON SECOND STREET THAT

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SELLS $2,000 BAGS. AND ARE A FRANCHISE. IF YOU ARE A FRANCHISE AND YOU SELL $2,000 BAGS YOU DON'T HAVE TO SELL A LOT TO MAKE YOUR RENT. IF YOU ARE A SMALL BUSINESS ON CENTER STREET SELLING $20 BAGS, YOU HAVE TO SELL A BUNCH TO MAKE YOUR RENT. WHEN YOUR RENT GOES UP 10, 20% YEAR OVER YEAR, YOU WILL NOT HAVE THE CITY BUSINESSES DOWNTOWN DENVER AND I DON'T BANT TO SEE THAT HAPPEN. WOE TALK ABOUT HOW PAID PARKING WILL PUSH PEOPLE OFF THE STREET AND LOSE DOWNTOWN BUSINESSES.

I'M MORE CONCERNED ABOUT THE REALITY OF INCREASING TAXES TO THE POINT PEOPLE CANNOT AFFORD THE TAXES DOWNTOWN. EVEN IF YOU OWN YOUR BUILDING, YOU ARE STILL PAYING A SIGNIFICANT PORTION OF TAXES, MUCH MORE SO THAN HOMESTEADED PROPERTIES. IT ME, THAT IS THE REALLY CORE REAL REASON WE HAVE TO LOOK AT THIS.

INFRASTRUCTURE IS FAILING. WHEN STREET LIGHTS GO OUT AND I CALL UP JEREMIAH AND SAY WE NEED TO FIX THE LIGHTS AND HE SAYS WE CAN'T FIX THEM ANYMORE, WHAT DO YOU WANT TO HAPPEN? DO YOU WANT THE LIGHTS TO GO OUT OR TAKE THE POLES OUT AND PUT AN ORANGE CONE IN THE HOLE? THOSE ARE THE CHOICES WE HAVE TO MAKE IF WE DON'T MAKE A SERIOUS DECISION ON HOW TO MOVE FORWARD. OUR SIDEWALKS DOWNTOWN ARE HEAVING BECAUSE OF TREES, ROOTS, AND OTHER PROBLEMS. WE CONTINUE TO GRIND THEM DOWN. BUT AT SOME POINT, WE CAN'T GRIND THEM ANYMORE. THEY HAVE TO BE REPLACED. THE ELECTRICAL INFRASTRUCTURE UNDERGROUND IS END OF LIFE. TO GET AT THAT, YOU HAVE TO TEAR THE SIDEWALKS UP.

IT IS ALL A BIG CONNECTED PROJECT. AND IT'S SOMETHING THAT NEEDS TO BE DONE. IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN STARTED 10 YEARS AGO AND IT HASN'T. WE CANNOT JUST KEEP SAYING WE ARE GOING TO FIND BETTER SOLUTIONS. I HAVEN'T SEEN A BETTER SOLUTION. THERE ARE THREE SOLUTIONS. WE CAN DO PAID PARKING, INCREASE TAXES, WE CAN DO NOTHING AND LET IT FAIL. THOSE ARE OUR THREE CHOICES. I DON'T WANT TO LET IT FAIL. I DON'T WANT TO INCREASE YOUR TAXES ANYMORE THAN I HAVE TO TO MAINTAIN THE PUBLIC SAFETY OF OUR COMMUNITY. SO THAT LEAVES ME WITH ONE CHOICE WHICH IS PAID PARKING. I'M GOING TO VOTE IN FAVOR OF IT TONIGHT. I UNDERSTAND THE PASSION ASSOCIATED WITH THE PETITIONS.

AND APPRECIATE EVERYTHING THAT THE COMMUNITY IS DOING IN THAT INSTANCE. IF THEY GET ON THE BALLOT, THEN CONGRATULATIONS FOR THEIR HARD WORK AND WE WILL SEE HOW IT GOES. BUT AGAIN, THE OTHER OPTION IS WE NEED TO PUT A GENERAL REFERENDUM ON THE BALLOT AT THE SAME TIME SO PEOPLE ACTUALLY HAVE A CHOICE. THEY CAN'T JUST SAY NO TO ONE THING. THEY HAVE TO BE ABLE TO UNDERSTAND WHAT T THE OTHER OPTION IS. IN REGARDS TO PARKING VENDOR, I AGREE WITH COMMISSIONER TUTEN IN THAT MY STRONG REFERENCE IS ONE PARKING. I KNOW THERE IS ONE POINT DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THEM BUT I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO HAVE HAVE A CONVERSATION ABOUT THAT. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. THANK YOU FOR EVERYBODY WHO SENT ME EMAILS. I TRY TO ANSWER EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THEM. MANY TIMES HAD SEVERAL CONVERSATIONS BACK AND FORTH. I LISTENED AND APPRECIATED EVERYBODY'S CONCERNS. I DO NOT THINK THERE IS A CONCERN THAT HAS BEEN BROUGHT UP THAT CAN'T BE DEALT WITH. THE TECHNOLOGY IS THERE, THE OPTIONS ARE THERE. WE ARE MAKING RULES THAT CAN BE CHANGED AND CAN BE UPDATED AS THINGS CHANGE IN THE COMMUNITY. SO I AM CONFIDENT THAT WE CAN MAKE PAID PARKING WORK. WE CAN RAISE THE NECESSARY FUNDS, AND THAT WE CAN NOT INCUMBER OUR CITY RESIDENTS WITH ADDITIONAL

TAXES. THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER

TUTEN? >> I JUST WANT TO ADD, THAT I HAVE HEARD AN ENORMOUS NUMBER OF CONCERNS FROM SO MANY PEOPLE. I

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HEARD FROM PEOPLE IN USUAL. I KNOW I MET WITH SEVERAL OF OUR CHURCH LEADERS. THERE IS A LOT OF CONCERNS AS WE HEARD TONIGHT.

I AGREE WITH COMMISSIONER MINSHEW FROM THE RESEARCH WE HAVE DONE, THAT I HAVE DONE AND FROM CONTACTING DURING THE PRESENTATIONS, READING THE PROPOSALS, CONTACTING THEM AGAIN, THERE ARE SOLUTIONS TO MOST OF OUR CONCERNS. THERE WILL BE UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCES. THERE WILL BE THINGS THAT HAPPEN THAT WE DON'T WANT TO HAPPEN. WE WOULD HAVE TO ADDRESS THEM.

WE WOULD HAVE TO -- WE TALKED ABOUT THE CITY WOULD NEED TO PUT TOGETHER A TASK FORCE AND INTERESTED STAKE HOLDERS THAT ADJUST AND CHANGE WHERE WE REALIZE THERE ARE ISSUES. WE WOULD HAVE TO COME UP WITH, WILL SPACES BE FREE FOR 15 MINUTES.

HOW DO WE WANT THIS TO WORK. REGARDING SOME OF THE ISSUES PEOPLE BROUGHT UP REGARDING THE TDC FUNDS, THAT IS WHOLLY OUTSIDE OF THE CONTROL OF THE CITY. IF PEOPLE ARE INTERESTED IN CHANGING THE ALLOCATION OF THE FUNDS, THEY SHOULD CONTACT THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS. THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERERS ARE BY STATE STATUTE IN CHARGE OF THE FUNDS IN WHAT THEY ARE ALLOCATED AND USED FOR. WE ARE LITERALLY THE MERCY OF WHAT WE CAN OR CANNOT GET. I ENCOURAGE EVERY PERSON WHETHER YOU ARE FOR OR AGAINST THIS TO SEE IF WE CAN GET MORE OF THE FUNDS. REGARDING SOME OF THE OTHER OPTIONS, SOME PEOPLE HAVE TOLD MOW INSTEAD OF PUTTING PAID PARKING DOWN HERE RECOLLECT PUT IT AT THE BEACH. IT IS NOT REALLY AN OPTION. WE TAKE FEDERAL FUNDS FOR BEACH RENOURISHMENT WHICH REQUIRES EQUAL ACCESS FOR ALL WHICH MEANS WE COULD NOT GIVE A DISCOUNT TO RESIDENTS. MANY STATES ARE ALLOWED TO DO THAT ENFLORIDA.

CITIES CAN NOT LEVY A SPECIAL OPTION TAX. THERE ARE ARE THREE COUNTIES THAT ARE ARE ALLOWED TO. OTHERWISE, WE HAVE CONTROL OVER ONE TAX, PROPERTY TAX, THAT'S IT. AT THE COUNTY LEVEL, THEY CAN LEVY THEM AND THE COUNTY DOES LEVY THEM, A GAS TAX. OUR PORTION IS SHRINKING. IT SHRUNK BY ALMOST $100,000 THIS YEAR. BY STATE STATUTE WE GET FROM THE COUNTY, A PORTION BY POPULATION AND THE CITY'S POPULATION PORTION IS SHRINKING AS THE COUNTY GROWS AND WE BECOME A SMALLER AND SMALLER PART OF THE COUNTY. YET, WE ARE ABSORBING ALL OF THE RESIDENTS AND WE CAN'T STOP THEM. THE COUNTIES AROUND US ARE GROWING ALSO. THEY ARE ALL COMING AND ALL USING OUR ASSETS. MOST OF YOU SAW THE BUDGET PRESENTATION. OUR POLICE FIRE, OCEAN RES CUE, THAT IS THE BIGGEST PORTION OF THE BUDGET, 44.5%. IT IS OVER $11 MILLION. A TOWN OF 14,000 PEOPLE DOES NOT USUALLY HAVE SUCH ENORMOUS PUBLIC SAFETY ORGANIZATION. BUT WHEN THAT PUBLIC SAFETY ORGANIZATION HAS TO SERVE A MILLION TOURISTS, WE DO NEED IT. YEARS AGO WHEN I USED TO COME TO THE BEACH, IT WAS SWIM AT YOUR OWN RISK. THERE WERE HARDLY ANY LIFE GUARDS ANYMORE. NOW THE LIFE GUARD BUDGET IS ALMOST $1 MILLION. FOR THE CITY TAXPAYERS TO CONTINUE TO ABSORB THE COSTS ALONE WHEN WE ARE INUNDATED, IT IS NOT SUSTAINABLE BECAUSE IT JUST KEEPS GROWING. AS MUCH AS THIS IS FAIRLY ODIOUS AND A DIFFICULT

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DISCUSSION, I SEE NO OTHER PATHS FORWARD. I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE ONE PLEA TO THE PUBLIC , THE STAFF HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH IT.

THIS IS AT THE DIRECTION OF THE COMMISSION. PARTICULARLY THE THREE CHARTER OFFICERS. WE HIRE AND FIRE THEM. WE DIRECT THEM TO WHAT WE WANT THEM TO DO. THEY TURN AROUND AND SEE THE STAFF FORWARD. THE STAFF MOVED FORWARD WITH PUTTING OUT AN RFP BECAUSE WE ASKED THEM TO. THIS IS NOT THEIR BURDEN OR THEIR DECISION.

THEY REMAIN NEUTRAL. THE MORE I GET TO KNOW THE STAFF, THEY ARE INCREDIBLE. WE ARE INCREDIBLY LUCKY TO HAVE THE STAFF WE HAVE.

SO PLEASE, THROW YOUR ANGER AT THE COMMISSION AND NOT AT THE

STAFF . AND THAT'S ALL. >> THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER. WE

HAVE VICE MAYOR UP AGAIN. >> SO MY BIG QUESTION IS WHAT DO WE DO WHEN THIS AWAY? BECAUSE THE CITIZENS ARE GOING TO HAVE THEIR VOTE AT SOME POINT IN TIME, WHETHER THEY GET IT ON THE BALLOT. THEY ARE GOING TO GET THIS ON THE BALLOT. WHAT DO WE DO IF WE PUT THIS FORWARD AND IT GOES IN, WHAT DOWE DO WHEN IT GOES AWAY? WHAT DO WE DO WHEN WE HAVE TIED $1 MILLION, $2 MILLION TO A BOND AND IT GOES AWAY. THAT'S WHAT HAPPENS IN FERNADINA BEACH. THE POLITICAL WINDS MOVE VERY QUICKLY. I FULLY EXPECT THAT TO HAPPEN. WHEN THOSE POLES GET RIPPED OUT OF THE GROUND AND EVERYONE IS OUT OF THERE, WHO IS HOLDING THE BAG? THIS IS WHY I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THIS PUT IN THE CHARTER.

THAT'S MY BIGGEST THING ABOUT THIS. PUT THIS IN THE CHARTER.

IF WE CAN COME UP WITH A PLAN, AS GREAT AS IT IS BEING SOLD HERE TO THE CITIZENS OF FERNADINA BEACH, LET THEM VOTE ON IT AND IF THEY PUT IT IN, THEN WE CAN'T RAISE IT, WE CAN'T T GO TO THE BEACH WITH IT, WE CAN'T DO ANYTHING ELSE WITHOUT GOING BACK TO THEM TO RAISE IT. IF WE HAVE GOT A GOOD PLAN, THEY'LL BUY IT. I PROMISE YOU, THEY WILL. IF WE DON'T, THEY WILL VOTE IT DOWN. BUT WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN WHEN THIS GOES AWAY? IF IT IS NOT IN THE CHARTER TO BE ABLE TO GO BACK TO THE VOTERS TO GET RID OF IT RGS THAT'S WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN. WE HAVE SEEN IT HAPPEN OVER AND OVER AGAIN. WHEN YOU TIE THE CITY TO MILLIONS OF DOLLARS AND PEOPLE CAMPAIGN TO SAY I WILL BE THE ONE WHO RIPS THE FIRST POLE OUT OF THE GROUND, THEY WILL WIN THE NEXT ELECTION. I'M TELLING YOU THAT WILL HAPPEN. IT WILL STRAP THE CITY WITH MILLIONS OF DOLLARS IN DEBT. SO THIS NEEDS TO BE PUT IN THE CHARTER. NO DIFFERENT THAN NOT BEING ABLE TO SELL LAND. THEY COULD PAY FOR THE SEA WALL, PAY FOR DOWNTOWN REVITALIZATION IF WE COULD SELL LAND BUT WE CAN'T. OR WE WOULD HAVE TO PUT TOGETHER A REALLY GOOD PLAN TO GO TO THE VOTERS TO BE ABLE TO SELL LAND. THAT'S WHAT WE HAVE TO DO. WE COULD CUT COSTS BUT WE CAN'T CONSOLIDATE POLICE AND FIRE WITHOUT GOING TO THE BALLOT. THERE IS NO -- WHAT WE HAVE SEEN IN FERNADINA BEACH IS WE HAVE SEEN OUR CITIZENS TELL US REGULARLY THESE THINGS ARE OFTEN LIMITS, DON'T TOUCH THEM, QUIT TALKING ABOUT THEM UNTIL YOU BRING IT TO US. THAT'S WHAT WE NEED TO SEE WITH THIS ISSUE. TAKE IT TO THE VOTERS. GIVE THEM THE RIGHT INFORMATION AND ALLOW THEM TO VOTE ON IT.

>> THANK YOU VICE MAYOR. COMMISSIONER POYNTER?

>> WHAT HAPPENS, IT GOES TO THE VOTERS AND THE VOTERS HAVE TO PAY. WHEN YOU SAY, IF THE CITY WITH PAID PARKING HAS THESE ARE REVENUES TO FIX THE TOWN AND THEN SOMEONE SAYS I WILL PUT ALL OF THE REVENUE AWAY, THEN THE SAME 8,000 PEOPLE OF THE CITY HAVE TO PAY FOR THAT BECAUSE THIS PROBLEM ISN'T GOING AWAY.

WE HAVE AN INFRASTRUCTURE PROBLEM THAT HAS TO GET FIXED.

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WE HAVE A SEA WALL THAT HAS TO BE DONE, BREKS HAS TO BE TAKEN DOWN. IF ALL OF A SUDDEN, A CAMPAIGNER NEXT YEAR SAYS I'M GOING TO PULL IT OUT LIKE HE SAID, I'M GOING TO PULL THE FIRST THING OUT, GET ELECTED, WELL NOW THEY WILL BE SAYING TO THEIR VOTERS, I KNOW PAID PARKING HAS BEEN HELPING PAY THIS AND IT HAS NOT BEEN ON OUR TAXES, BUT I'M GOING TO CHANGE THAT. SO NO ONE IN THE COUNTY OR THE MILLION PEOPLE WHO ARE COMING ARE GOING TO HAVE TO PAY ANYMORE. AND IT IS JUST ALL GOING TO GO BACK TO THE CITIZENS. I ACTUALLY DON'T THINK THAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN. I THINK THIS IF I DIDN'T THINK IT WAS GOING TO WORK. AND I THINK ONCE PEOPLE START SEEING SIDEWALKS GETTING IMPROVED AND LIGHT POLES GETTING PUT IN PLACE AND A SHARED BACKS OF EVERYBODY WHO IS USING THIS PLACE, THAT'S WHEN I THINK PEOPLE WILL SAY, YOU KNOW WHAT? I GUESS THIS WORKED OUT ALL RIGHT. BECAUSE WE'RE ACTUALLY CHARGING SOME OF THE PEOPLE WHO ARE WEARING OUR PLACE OUT.

THEY'RE WEARING IT OUT. THEY'RE NOW GOING TO START TO PAY A LITTLE BIT OF THAT TO HELP THIS COMMUNITY TAKE CARE OF ITSELF. THAT'S WHAT HAPPENS WITH THAT.

>> THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER. COMMISSIONER MINSHEW?

>> WELL, FIRST OF ALL, THERE WON'T BE CALLS TO PULL OUT.

YOU WON'T HAVE THAT --

>> I WAS JUST --

>> I KNOW. YOU WON'T HAVE THAT PHOTO OP TO GO ON THE FRONT PAGE OF THE NEWSPAPER.

>> SO, NOTHING'S GOING IN THE GROUND, PAUL, YOU HEAR THAT? NOTHING GOING IN THE GROUND, BUD.

>> SO, THAT'S WHAT -- IT DEPENDS ON WHICH VENDOR WE PICK AND THE TECHNOLOGY -- WE HAVE SVEN DOORS SAYING THEY'RE NOT PUTTING IN KIOSKS, SO, YOU KNOW -- SO, NO, NO POLES IN THE GROUND.

SO -- IF YOU DON'T WANT TO DO THIS, THEN YOUR ONLY OTHER OPTION IS TO GO THROUGH GENERAL OBLIGATION BOND, WHICH IS WHY I ASKED THE CITY MANAGER TO LOOK AT WHAT IT WOULD TAKE TO BID A GENERAL OBLIGATION BOND ON THE BALLOT, SO THAT IF YOU HAVE A CHOICE, BECAUSE A VOTE FOR OR AGAINST PAID PARKING ISN'T REALLY A CHOICE. IT'S JUST AN, I DON'T WANT THIS, WITHOUT SAYING, OKAY, BUT THEN WHAT DO YOU WANT? SO, THE NEXT OPTION IS TO RAISE YOUR TAXES.

AND THAT WOULD BE IN THE FORM OF A GENERAL OBLIGATION BOND.

SO -- SO, THAT, YOU KNOW, THAT TO ME, I THINK -- I MEAN, TO ME, PART OF THE ANGST ABOUT ALL OF THE NO PAID PARKING IS THAT IT'S -- THAT THERE'S BEEN NO REALLY OTHER OPTION.

AND, YOU KNOW, IF YOU WANT TO TALK ABOUT PUTTING SOMETHING IN THE CHARTER SO THAT THE CITIZENS GET TO VOTE ON EVERYTHING , THEN FINE, THEN WE SHOULD BE LIKE THEY ARE IN NEW ENGLAND AND YOU HAVE TOWN HALL -- YOU HAVE TOWN MANAGE -- YOU HAVE TOWN HALL GOVERNMENT, WHERE EVERYBODY GETS TOGETHER AND EVERYBODY VOTES ON EVERYTHING, AND YOU DON'T NEED THE CITY COMMISSION.

BUT THAT'S NOT REALLY REALISTIC FOR WHAT WE'RE DOING, AND THE OTHER THING YOU COULD POSSIBLY SELL IN THIS CITY TO GET THE MONEY YOU NEEDED IS TO SELL THE GOLF COURSE, BECAUSE IT'S RECREATION LAND AND YOU CAN'T SELL IT WITHOUT ALL THESE OTHER RESTRICTIONS THAT WE PUT IN.

SO, WHAT YOU'RE REALLY SAYING, COMMISSIONER, IS, LET'S SELL THE GOLF COURSE, BECAUSE THAT'S REALLY ALL YOU'VE GOT THAT YOU CAN POSSIBLY SELL THAT WOULD BE -- THAT WOULD GIVE YOU ENOUGH MONEY TO FIX ALL THIS DOWNTOWN INFRASTRUCTURE.

SO, I -- FRANKLY, I DON'T THINK YOU'RE GOING TO GET THAT PASSED ON A REFERENDUM OR A PETITION OR -- OR A BALLOT, EITHER. SO -- I THINK THAT'S NOT BEING REALISTIC ABOUT HOW WE COULD POSSIBLY RAISE OTHER FUNDS.

SO, WITH THAT, I'D LIKE TO CALL THE QUESTION.

>> I HAVE TWO MORE REQUESTS TO SPEAK.

>> OKAY.

>> TO BE CLEAR, WE CAN'T SELL THE GOLF COURSE, BECAUSE STATE MANDATES THAT BY 2023, OUR TREATED WASTE WATER, WHICH IS PRETTY CLEAN, IT'S CONSIDERED GRAY WATER, WE CURRENTLY DUMP IT INTO THE EMILIA RIVER AFTER IT'S BEEN TREATED, BY 2023, THAT WILL BE AGAINST THE LAW, TREATED WAIST WASTE WATER HAS TO BE DISCHARGED ON THE LAND.

THE ONLY PLACE WE HAVE ENOUGH LAND TO DISCHARGE THAT MANY MILLIONS OF GALLONS OF WATER IS AT THE GOLF COURSE. AND OUR --

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OUR WASTE WATER TREATMENT PEOPLE HAVE BEEN VERY DILIGENTLY FOR HAVE MORE YEARS, YOU SAW $10 MILLIONMILLION IN THEIR BUDGET, THEY HAVE BEEN WORKING ON THIS PROJECT, BECAUSE THEY KNOW IT'S COMING, AND IT IS CURRENTLY FUNDED AND IT WILL BE FUNDED AND WE WILL BE ABLE TO MEET STATE MANDATE.

>> THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER. VICE

MAYOR. >> I'M NOT ADVOCATING SELLING LAND. I NEVER ADVOCATED FOR THE SELLING OF IT. I SAID, YOU CAN, BUT YOU CAN'T DO IT WITHOUT TAKING IT TO A VOTE.

THE CITY HAS A LOT OF LAND . THEY'VE TAKEN OUT OF OUR HANDS.

THEY SAID, YOU CANNOT DO THIS WITHOUT OUR VOTE.

I'M USING THAT AS AN EXAMPLE, SAYING, THAT'S WHAT NEEDS TO HAPPEN WITH PAID PARKING. AND THAT'S IT.

TO USE AN EXAMPLE OF TOOLS IN THE TOOL BOX THAT THIS COMMISSION DOES NOT HAVE. WE DON'T HAVE THE ABILITY TO SELL LAND WITHOUT GOING TO THE VOTERS. I BELIEVE THAT PAID PARKING SHOULD BE IN THAT , AND I DON'T THINK I'M THE ONLY ONE THAT BELIEVES IT THAT WAY. SO, THAT'S ALL THAT I WAS SAYING, WAS SIMPLY A STANDPOINT OF, THERE ARE THINGS THAT WE CANNOT DO AS A COMMISSION AND PAID PARKING SHOULD BE ONE OF THEM.

>> THANK YOU, VICE MAYOR. COMMISSIONER?

>> THE ONLY THING WE CAN'T SELL THE RECREATION LAND WITHOUT A VOTE.

WE CAN SELL LAND THAT THE CITY OWNS THAT'S ZONED COMMERCIAL, OR ZONED INDUSTRIAL.

WE COULD SELL THE MARINA. WE DON'T HAVE TO HAVE A VOTE FOR THAT. THE ONLY THING THAT THAT VOTE IS TIED TO IN THE CHARTER IS RECREATION LAND AND CONSERVATION LAND. THAT'S IT.

SO, THERE'S A WHOLE LOT OF OTHER LAND THAT WE COULD SELL, BUT I DON'T THINK IT'S ENOUGH TO PAY FOR WHAT WE WOULD NEED TO FIX THE DOWNTOWN.

>> THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER. AND THERE'S NO REASON TO REPEAT ANYTHING THAT'S ALREADY BEEN SAID, BUT I WOULD SECOND THE POINT THAT IF WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT ABANDONING AN IDEA OF A REVENUE STREAM AND CONSIDERING WHAT COSTS WE SHOULD TALK, THE HARD CONVERSATION BRINGS UP THE TWO ASSETS SHOWED ARE LOSING MONEY, THE GOLF COURSE, ALL THAT CONSERVATION, AS WE DISCUSSED IN RECREATION LAND RESTRICTIONS MAKE THAT VERY TRICKY, AT BEST. OR THERE'S THE MARINA.

SO, I'M NOT ADVOCATING EITHER IDEA, BUT I'M SAYING THAT BECOMES ON THE TABLE IF WE DON'T GO FORWARD WITH THE REVENUE STREAM.

FURTHER MORE, THIS MIGHT BE A MOOT POINT, BUT FOR ALL THE ACCUSATIONS OF CAMPAIGN PROMISES, I'M GOING TO SAY THAT I WON THE ELECTION AND I NEVER MINCED WORDS ABOUT PAID PARKING. I DON'T KNOW IF PEOPLE WEREN'T LISTENING, BUT I DON'T UNDERSTAND HOW IF I WAS ELECTED ON THE PREMISE OF BEING A YOUNG BUSINESS OWNER THAT WANTS TO RUN THE CITY MORE LIKE A BUSINESS, AND THEN WE HAVE AN EMOTIONAL CHOICE THAT WE DON'T LIKE CHANGE, WE'RE JUST GOING TO SAY, FIND ANOTHER WAY TO DO IT.

AND AS MY FELLOW COMMISSIONERS HAVE SAID, IT'S VERY FRUSTRATING TO SIT IN THIS SEAT RIGHT NOW AND HAVE PEOPLE SAY, JUST FIND ANOTHER WAY. NO ONE HAS PROVIDED ANY SOLUTION FOR THAT, NO ONE HAS SUGGESTED EVEN ONE POTENTIAL IDEA AND UNFORTUNATELY AS HAS BEEN SAID BEFORE, THIS IS THE ONLY CLEAR WAY FORWARD.

I COMMEND THOSE WHO ARE PASSIONATELY AGAINST THIS.

IF IT HAPPENS TO HAPPEN THAT THE BALLOT REFERENDUM OVERTURNS THIS, I WILL OWN THIS DECISION, BUT I SEE NO OTHER WAY FORWARD BUT SUPPORTING A REVENUE STREAM THAT WE CAN TAKE CARE OF THE AS SETS THAT WE HAVE. AND WITH THAT, UNLESS THERE'S ANIOR COMMENTS, I'LL HAVE THE CLERK CALL THE QUESTION.

>> I'M GOING TO MAKE -- I'M GOING TO MAKE A CHANGE -- I'M GOING TO MAKE A CHANGE.

>> WE'VE ALREADY TAKEN --

>> I'VE MADE THE MOTION. I'M NOT GOING TO ARGUE ABOUT THE -- IF YOU TWO ARE HELL BENT ON --

>> PARKING IN. >> PARKING, I'M NOT GOING TO STAND IN THERE, SO, I CAN XHANG MY MOTION TO ONE PARKING INSTEAD OF SP-1.

>> AND THEN CAN WE STILL HAVE A DISCUSSION? BECAUSE I WOULD LIKE TO. BECAUSE I WOULD LIKE TO.

TO MAKE SOME COMMENTS ABOUT WHY I THINK WE SHOULD VOTE FOR ONE PARKING AND NOT SP. OR DO YOU NOT WANT TO HEAR THEM NOW?

>> WE HAVE A MOTION ON THE FLOOR.

>> OKAY, YEAH.

>> I SWITCHED IT.

>> SO, YOU'RE GOING TO AMEND YOUR MOTION?

>> I'M AMENDING MY MOTION.

>> WOULD THE SECONDER LIKE TO --

>> YES.

>> THANK YOU.

>> COMMISSIONER?

>> OKAY. SO , REGARDING THE THREE VENDORS, I -- I DEFINITELY -- I DEFINITELY DO NOT WANT TO

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GO WITH ELITE PARKING, BECAUSE THEY ARE A REVENUE SHARE, AND I SEE -- I SEE AGREEMENT IN THAT. I DON'T -- I DON'T WANT TO GET INVOLVED IN REVENUE SHARE. ONE PARKING AND SP HAVE A SET FEE AND -- AND THEN ABOVE THAT, WE GET THE NET REVENUE. I KNOW SP PARKING'S SET FEE IS LOWER BY A LOT, BY LIKE $100,000.

>> BY $100,000.

>> IT'S 240 VERSUS 360. IT'S 256 VERSUS 346.

OKAY, THANK YOU, YEAH. THE THING IS , THEY -- LIKE, THEY'RE A -- THEY HAVE A MANAGEMENT FEE CONTRACT IN PLACE, SO, THEY DON'T HAVE -- SO MANY THINGS ARE NOT LISTED. FOR INSTANCE, SIGNS.

THERE WILL BE THINGS THAT GO IN THE GROUND.

THEY -- SIGNS ARE NOT SITTING THERE.

THEY -- THEY -- THEY STATE THAT -- THAT WE WOULD BE IN CONTROL OF WHAT WE WANT TO ADD TO THE BUDGET, AND IN THEIR -- THEIR BUDGET PROPOSAL PORTION WAS ONLY ONE PAGE.

ONE PARKING HAD A FOUR-PAGE, VERY UP FRONT AND CLEAR PROPOSAL TO INCLUDE , THEY WOULD HAVE A A-- THEY WOULD AN OFFICE, THEY WOULD HAVE A CUSTOMER SERVICE REP WHO WOULD WORK FOUR HOURS A DAY TO ASSIST ANYBODY WITH ANY DIGITAL ISSUES, THEY WOULD HAVE A MANAGER HERE WHO WOULD -- WHO WOULD BE PART OF ENFORCEMENT.

ONE PARKING, PART OF THEIR MONEY -- PART OF THEIR ALLOCATION INCLUDES ENFORCEMENT FOR 12 HOURS A DAY, EVEN THOUGH IN THE PROPOSAL WE NEVER EVEN PUT THAT MANY HOURS.

SP-PLUS HAS ONLY FOUR HOURS OF ENFORCEMENT EACH DAY.

SHOULD I GO ON? >> NO.

>> NO?

>> NO. >> I MEAN -- WE GET IT.

I CHANGED MY MOTION. YOU'RE AHEAD.

YOU KNOW? COME ON.

>> CLOSING THE SALE, JOYCE.

>> ALL RIGHT. THAT'S ALL I HAVE TO SAY.

>> THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER. I HAVE MY MOTION, SECOND, WITH NO FURTHER DISCUSSION. PLEASE START THE VOTE.

THAT MOTION PASSES 4- 1, WHICH BRINGS US TO ITEM 7.2, OR FLOOD ADAPTATION --

>> CAN WE TAKE A TEN- MINUTE BREAK?

[7.2 FLOOD ADAPTATION PLAN - RESILIENT FLORIDA GRANT - RESOLUTION 2025-143 APPROVING THE FLOOD ADAPTATION PLAN TO SUPPORT COMMUNITY RESILIENCE; AUTHORIZING ADMINISTRATIVE CORRECTION OF SCRIVENER'S ERRORS; AUTHORIZING EXECUTION; AND PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE. Synopsis: Approves the City of Fernandina Beach Flood Adaptation Plan as prepared by consultant Halff and supported by City staff. Presentation by Halff.]

>>> ALL RIGHT, FOLKS, WE WANT TO KEEP THINGS MOVING. WE'RE GOING TO MOVE ONTO ITEM 7. 2, OUR FLOOD ADAPTATION PLAN WITH OUR RESILIENT FLORIDA GRANT.

>> MAYOR, THIS WOULD BE CONSIDERATION OF RESOLUTION 2025-143. THIS WOULD ADOPT THE FLOOD ADAPTATION PLAN THAT WE HEARD THE PRESENTATION ON EARLIER THIS EVENING.

17 STRATEGIES AND 76 ACTION ITEMS ALIGNING WITH OUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN OBJECTIVES AND POLICIES.

AS WE HEARD PREPARED THROUGH THE -- THROUGH THE GRANT.

AND -- THE FISCAL IMPACT IS YET TO BE DETERMINED DEPENDING ON HOW WE CHOOSE TO IMPLEMENT SOME OF THESE STRATEGIES, BUT STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL.

>> THANK YOU, MISS CAMPBELL. DO I HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ON THIS ITEM?

>> I MOVE TO APPROVE.

>> SECOND.

>> I HAVE A MOTION AND IS THERE A SECOND?

>> SECOND.

>> OH, SORRY. MOTION AND A SECOND.

ANY FURTHER COMMISSIONER DISCUSSION? SEEING NONE. PLEASE START THE VOTE.

[7.3 FIVE-YEAR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN APPROVAL - RESOLUTION 2025-144 APPROVING THE FIVE-YEAR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN FOR FISCAL YEARS 2025/2026 THROUGH 2029/2030; AUTHORIZING ADMINISTRATIVE CORRECTION OF SCRIVENER'S ERRORS; PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE. Synopsis: Approves the City's five-year Capital Improvement Plan for Fiscal Years 2025/2026 through 2029/2030.]

THAT MOTION PASSES 5-0. AND WE'LL MOVE OBJECT ITEM 7.3, OUR FIVE- YEAR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT

PLAN. >> THANK YOU, MAYOR.

THIS IS AN EXCITING ITEM FOR US TONIGHT.

RESOLUTION 2025- 144, THE ADOPTION OF THE FIVE- YEAR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN.

THIS BINDER THAT EACH OF YOU HAS BEEN GIVEN IS A FIRST FOR US , I WANT TO GIVE SPECIAL CONGRATULATIONS TO ALL OF THE DIRECTORS WHO POURED HOURS AND HOURS INTO THIS. MARY, WHO WAS RESPONSIBLE FOR ALL THE GRAPHICS AND ASSEMBLING THE PAGES.

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THIS IS THE MOST COMPREHENSIVE CAPITAL PLAN THAT I THINK THE CITY HAS EVER HAD.

EVERY PROJECT THAT WE NEED TO DO FOR THE NEXT FIVE YEARS, WE BELIEVE, HAS BEEN IDENTIFIED ALONG WITH A DESCRIPTION OF IT, A PHOTO OF IT, WHAT YEAR IT'S FUNDED, WHAT AMOUNT, FUNDING SOURCES HAVE BEEN IDENTIFIED WHERE APPROPRIATE. BECAUSE THIS IS A PLAN, IT'S SORT OF -- IT'S A WISH LESS OF SORTS. ONLY THE FIRST YEAR GETS INCORPORATED INTO OUR BUDGET. SO, AS WE MOVE FORWARD THROUGH FUTURE YEARS, YOU WILL BECOME VERY FAMILIAR WITH THESE PROJECTS, YOU'LL SEE THEM MOVE UP YEAR OF YEAR , AND ONCE WE REALLY REFINE IT AND HAVE IT FINE-TUNED, REALLY ALL YOU'LL SEE IS THE NEW FIFTH YEAR PROJECTS GETS ADDED EVERY YEAR AND EVERYTHING ELSE MOVES UP, NEW FIFTH YEAR GETS ADDED, EVERYTHING ELSE MOVES UP.

SO, WE THINK THIS IS A MORE EFFICIENT WAY TO APPROACH THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS THAT WE NEED, AND STAY ON TOP OF IT IN A MORE TRANSPARENT WAY AND A WAY THAT WE CAN BUDGET FOR IT APPROPRIATELY GOING FORWARD. WITH THAT, I RECOMMEND APPROVAL.

>> THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER?

>> ACTUALLY, I JUST HAVE A COMMENT.

I WOULD LIKE TO SAY THIS CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN IS A THING OF BEAUTY, AND I ALSO WANT TO THANK EVERYBODY ON THE STAFF WHO WORKED REALLY HARD . I'VE BEEN COMING TO THESE MEETINGS FOR ALMOST TEN YEARS, AND THIS IS THE FIRST TIME THAT I'VE SEEN SOMETHING THAT REALLY IS ACTIONABLE.

AND IS ONLY GOING TO GET BETTER AS WE CONTINUE TO DO THINGS SMARTER AND MORE EFFICIENTLY.

SO -- AND I'LL JUST SAY ONE OTHER THING. IF YOU GO INTO IT AND YOU LOOK AT THE TOTAL PAGE, OVER FIVE YEARS, IT'S $157 MILLION CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN. THAT IS A HUGE AMOUNT OF MONEY, AND YOU SAY TO YOURSELF, HOW CAN÷÷A TOWN OF 14,000 PEOPLE HAVE THAT MUCH? I WAS AT AN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT LUNCHEON LAST WEEK, AND THE COUNTY GOT UP AND SAID THEIR PLAN WAS ONLY $280 MILLION. SO, WE ARE ALMOST HALF AS MUCH AS THE COUNTY'S. AND TO ME, THAT'S CRAZY, AND IT DOESN'T MAKE ANY SENSE, EXCEPT FOR THE REALITY IS THAT THINGS HAVE BEEN DELAYED, DELAYED, DELAYED, NOT RECOGNIZED, NOT PUT FORWARD, IN A MANNER THAT ALLOWS US TO REALLY DEBATE IT AND UNDERSTAND IT AND MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS ON IT AND MAKE ÷÷DECISIONS, SO , THIS IS -- I THOUGHT THAT THE BUDGET WAS GREAT, BUT --

>> EVEN BETTER.

>> THIS IS EVEN BETTER, SO, AGAIN, I JUST WANTED TO SAY THANK YOU AND I'LL BE HAPPY TO MOVE THAT WE APPROVE RESOLUTION 2025- 144, APPROVING THE FIVE- YEAR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN.

>> COMMISSIONER, WISHING TO SPEAK?

>> I STILL SECOND IT.

>> AH, I WILL JUST AGREE . THIS BINDER THAT WE HAVE IS ATTACHED ON THIS AGENDA .

EACH ITEM HAS -- HAS, YOU KNOW, THIS IS THE FIRE DEPARTMENT ON 14TH --

>> 14TH.

>> YEAH. IT'S GOT IN THE FISCAL YEAR '28, $60,000 BUDGET IN THERE FOR -- FOR GENERAL REMODEL. IT'S -- IN MANY PLACES, THERE ARE SPOTS THAT SAY DEPENDS ON FINANCING. WE -- WE DON'T KNOW IF WE REALLY WILL HAVE THE MONEY, BUT I REALLY ENCOURAGE EVERYBODY TO TAKE A QUICK LOOK AT THIS CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN, IT'S -- IT IS REALLY --

>> THING OF BEAUTY.

>> INCREDIBLY INFORMATIVE. THANKS.

>> DO I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND, ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? SEEING NONE. PLEASE START THE VOTE.

[8.1 MASTER FEE SCHEDULE - ORDINANCE 2025-09 ESTABLISHING AND AMENDING FEES FOR THE AIRPORT, BUILDING, BUSINESS SERVICES, CODE ENFORCEMENT, CEMETERY, CITY CLERK’S OFFICE, CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE, FIRE, GOLF CLUB, MARINA, PARKS AND RECREATION, PLANNING AND CONSERVATION, POLICE, SANITATION, STORMWATER, STREETS, WASTEWATER, WATER, AND IMPACT FEES, EXCLUDING WATER AND SEWER IMPACT FEES FOR FY 2025/2026; AUTHORIZING ADMINISTRATIVE CORRECTION OF SCRIVENER’S ERRORS; PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY; AND PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE. Synopsis: Establishes the FY 2025-2026 Master Fee Schedule.]

THAT PASSES A-5-0. WHICH BRINGS US TO OUR ORDINANCES TO FIRST READING. 8. 1 IS THE FIRST AND ONLY, THE MASTER FEE SCHEDULE.

>> THANK YOU. WE'RE GOING TO HAVE ATTORNEY PRINCE READ THIS BY TITLE ONLY.

THIS IS 2025-09. THE FIRST READING OF OUR USER FEE UPDATE. ALL OF THE DEPARTMENTS SUBMIT TO THIS DOCUMENT, SO, IT'S A LENGTHY DOCUMENT, THERE'S A NUMBER OF CHANGES, SOME THAT THE COMMISSION ASKED FOR SPECIFICALLY, LIKE A RANGE FOR MARINA PRICING AND GOLF PRICING, SO THAT WE HAVE MORE FLEXIBILITY DURING PEAK USAGE . THERE ARE SOME THINGS THAT SIMPLY GOT REARRANGED. THE PLATTING AND REPLATTING FEES USED TO BE UNDER BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT FEES AND NOW

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THEY'RE UNDER TRC FEES.

THAT WAS A MOVEMENT. THERE ARE WATER AND SEWER RATE ADJUSTMENTS. ALL SORTS OF THINGS.

WE'RE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY SPECIFIC QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE AFTER THE FIRST READING.

>> ANY COMMISSIONER QUESTIONS? ING NONE.

I HAVE ONE --

>> FIRST READING.

>> OH, SORRY.

>> SHE HAS TO READ IT.

>> ORDINANCE 2025- 09, IN ORDNANCE OF THE CITY COMMISSION, ESTABLISHING AN AMENDING FEES FOR THE AIRPORT, BUILDING, BUSINESS SERVICES, CODE ENFORCEMENT, CEMETERY, CITY CLERK'S OFFICE, CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE, FIRE, GOLF CLUB, MARINA, PARKS AND RECREATION, PLANNING AND CONSERVATION, POLICE, SANITATION, STORMWATER, STREETS, WASTEWATER, WATER, AND IMPACT FEES, EXCLUDING THE WATER AND SEWER IMPACT FEES FOR FISCAL YEAR 2025- 2026, AUTHORIZING ERRORS, PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR.

>> THANK YOU. DO YOU HAVE A QUESTION?

>> I HAVE ONE COMMENT.

>> CERTAINLY. >> ALL THE WAY DOWN ON THE PARKS AND REC PAGE, I DON'T KNOW IF WE WANT THIS OR IF THIS IS A TYPO, BUT THE INDOOR FACILITY RENTALS , THERE IS -- THERE IS NOT A DIFFERENCE IN PRICE BETWEEN RESIDENT AND NONRESIDENT. IT'S ON PAGE 1,782 OF THE AGENDA.

>> AH -- WE DON'T HAVE A DIFFERENCE RIGHT NOW, BUT WE CAN DISCUSS THAT AND MAKE AN ADJUSTMENT BEFORE YOUR SECOND

READING. >> OKAY, THANK

YOU. >> THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER.

ANY OTHER REQUESTS, QUESTIONS? SEEING NONE. PLEASE COME UP AND SPEAK. MS. FERRERA?

>> JULIE FERRERA, 501 DATE STREET.

I DON'T KNOW IF THIS MASTER FEE SCHEDULE HAS 1,082 PAGES, BUT I WAS WONDERING AT THE SECOND READING IF IT WAS POSSIBLE FOR YOU TO PUT ON THE SCREEN FOR PEOPLE WHO ARE AT HOME OR PEOPLE SITTING IN THE AUDIENCE SO THEY KNOW WHAT THE MASTER FEE SCHEDULES ARE, WHAT THE INCREASES ARE, WHAT THE DECREASES ARE? I THINK THAT WOULD BE REALLY A HELPFUL THING FOR THE COMMUNITY ÷÷TO KNOW, NOT JUST TO HAVE SOMETHING ON THE AGENDA THAT WE PASS, BUT THAT PEOPLE REALLY GET TO KNOW WHAT'S BEING TALKED ABOUT. THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU, MS. FERRERA. DO I HAVE A MOTION?

>> SO MOVED.

>> MOTION AND --

>> SECOND. >> SECOND.

ANY FURTHER COMMISSIONER DISCUSSION?

>> CLARIFY, THAT'S A MOVE TO

APPROVE. >> MOTION

TO APPROVE. >> THANK YOU.

>> YEAH.

SEEING NONE. PLEASE START THE VOTE.

[9.1 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN TEXT AMENDMENTS - WATER SUPPLY FACILITIES WORK PLAN - ORDINANCE 2025-03 AMENDING THE 2030 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN PUBLIC FACILITIES ELEMENT TO UPDATE THE CITY'S WATER SUPPLY FACILITIES WORK PLAN IN ACCORDANCE WITH FLORIDA STATUTE SECTION 373.709 (REGIONAL WATER SUPPLY PLANNING); PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY; AND PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE. Synopsis: The City of Fernandina Beach requests a Comprehensive Plan Text amendment to update its Water Supply Facilities Work Plan in accordance with 373.709, Florida Statutes.]

THAT MOTION PASSES 5-0. MOVE ON TO ITEM NINE, ORDINANCES FOR THE SECOND READING.

STARTING WITH 9.1. COMPREHENSIVE PLAN TEXT AMENDMENT FOR WATER SUPPLY FACILITIES WORK PLAN.

>> THANK YOU, MAYOR. THIS IS 2025-03.

WHICH UPDATES THE PUBLIC FACILITIES ELEMENT AND -- OF OUR REVISED WATER SUPPLY FACILITIES WORK PLAN FOR 2025 THROUGH 2035.

THIS IS WITH FLORIDA STATUE FOR OUR WATER SUPPLY PLANNING.

I'LL PASS TO ATTORNEY PRINCE FOR FIRST READING --

>> SECOND READING.

>> SORRY.

>> ORDNANCE 2025- 03, AMENDING THE 2030 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN PUBLIC FACILITIES ELEMENT TO UPDATE THE CITY'S WATER SUPPLY FACILITIES WORK PLAN IN AYOUR DANCE WITH THE FLORIDA STATUTE SECTION 373. 709, WHICH IS THE REGIONAL WATER SUPPLY PLANNING, PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY AND PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE.

>> DO I HAVE ANY QUESTION S ON 9. 1?

>> I MOVE TO APPROVE.

>> AND I SECOND.

>> HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. ANY ADDITIONAL DISCUSSION? SEEING NONE. COMMISSIONER?

ARE YOU -- >> SO, SORRY.

[9.2 LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE TEXT AMENDMENTS - LANDSCAPING, BUFFERS, AND TREE PROTECTION - ORDINANCE 2025-04 AMENDING THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE SECTION 1.07.00 ACRONYMS AND DEFINITIONS, SECTION 4.05.00 LANDSCAPING, BUFFERS, AND TREE PROTECTION, SECTIONS 4.05.01 GENERALLY, 4.05.02 APPLICABILITY, 4.05.03 LANDSCAPE MATERIALS STANDARDS, 4.05.04 REQUIREMENTS FOR LANDSCAPE PLANS AND RENUMBERING SECTIONS WHICH FOLLOW AND INCORPORATING PLAIN OR CLARIFYING LANGUAGE IN SECTIONS 4.05.04 REQUIREMENTS FOR LANDSCAPE PLANS, AND 4.05.05 MINIMUM REQUIREMENTS FOR RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT; AND MODIFYING SECTION 4.05.07 PARKING LOT LANDSCAPING REQUIREMENTS; AND SECTION 4.05.13 HARDSHIP RELIEF IN APPLICABILITY TO ONLY LANDSCAPE STANDARDS; AUTHORIZING ADMINISTRATIVE CORRECTION OF SCRIVENER’S ERRORS; PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY; AND PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE. Synopsis: Amends the Land Development Code to modify Chapter 1 definitions and landscaping sections and subsections contained in Chapter 4, consistent with the Planning Advisory Board direction.]

THAT MOTION PASSES 5-0. ONTO 9. 2, ANOTHER LDC AMENDMENT FOR LANDSCAPE BUFFERS AND TREE

PROTECTION. >> THIS IS 2025- 04, SECOND READING OF THE TEXT AMENDMENT, CHANGES SOME ACRONYMS AND DEFINITIONS IN OUR LANDSCAPING SECTION, AND BUFFERS CORRECTS THE INVASIVE PLANT LIST, UPDATES THE FLORIDA FRIENDLY LANDSCAPING LIST. THIS WAS APPROVED BY THE PLANNING ADVISORY BOARD AND APPROVED BY THIS COMMISSION.

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>> ORDINANCE 2025- 04, ORDINANCE AMENDING THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE SECTION 1.07. 00, ACRONYMS AND DEFINITIONS, SECTION 4.05. 00 LANDSCAPING BUFFERS, AND TREE PROTECTION.

SECTIONS 4.05. 01, GENERALLY, 4.05.02, APPLICABILITY, 4.05. 03 LANDSCAPE MATERIALS STANDARDS, 4.05.04, REQUIREMENTS FOR LANDSCAPING PLANS AND RENUMBERS SECTIONS WHICH FOLLOW AND INCORPORATING PLAIN OR CLARIFYING LANGUAGE IN SECTIONS 4.05. 04 REQUIREMENTS FOR LANDSCAPE PLANS, AND 4.05.

05 MINIMUM REQUIREMENTS FOR RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT AND MODIFYING SECTION 4.05. 07 PARKING LOT LANDSCAPING REQUIREMENTS, AND SECTION 4.05. 13, HARDSHIP RELIEF IN APPLICABILITY TO ONLY LANDSCAPE STANDARDS. AUTHORIZING ADMINISTRATIVE CORRECTION OF ERRORS, PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY, AND PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE.

THANK YOU, MAYOR. >> THANK YOU.

DO I HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR MS. CAMPBELL OR MS. PRINCE ON 9.2? DO I HAVE A MOTION?

>> I MOVE TO APPROVE ORDINANCE

2025-04. >> SECOND.

>> I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.

ANY ADDITIONAL COMMISSIONER DISCUSSION? SEEING NONE. MS. BEST, PLEASE START THE VOTE.

[9.3 LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE TEXT AMENDMENTS - ACRONYMS, DEFINITIONS, WATERFRONT MIXED USE - ORDINANCE 2025-06 AMENDING THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE TO ADD TERMS IN SECTION 1.07.00 ACRONYMS AND DEFINITIONS TO DEFINE HEALTH STUDIOS, PERSONAL TRAINER, RESIDE/OWNER OCCUPIED, ROOFTOP GARDEN; AMENDING SECTION 2.03.02 TABLE OF LAND USES TO LOCATE HEALTH STUDIOS; AMENDING SECTION 3.03.03 DEVELOPMENT WITHIN WETLANDS TO EXEMPT W-1 (WATERFRONT MIXED USE) PROPERTIES FROM WETLAND BUFFER REQUIREMENTS; AUTHORIZING ADMINISTRATIVE CORRECTION OF SCRIVENER’S ERRORS; PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY; AND PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE. Synopsis: Request to add terms to Land Development Code Section 1.07.00 Acronyms and Definitions and amend Section 3.03.03 to exempt W-1 from the wetland buffer requirements, consistent with the Planning Advisory Board direction.]

THAT MOTION PASSES 5-0. WE MOVE ALONG TO 9. 3, ANOTHER LDC AMENDMENT FOR ACRONYMS, DEFINITIONS ON WATERFRONT MIXED USE.

>> THANK YOU, MAYOR. THIS IS CONSIDERATION OF ORDINANCE 2025- 06, SECOND READING.

ADD SOME TERMS TO LDC, DEFINITIONS FOR HEALTH STUDIOS AND PERSONAL TRAINERS, RESIDES AND OWNER OCCUPIED ROOFTOP GARDENS, AND EXEMPTING W- 1 FROM THE WETLAND BUFFER REQUIREMENTS. THE PLANNING ADVISORY BOARD DID RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF THIS IN JUNE AND THEN IT WAS BEFORE THIS BODY AT FIRST READING IN JULY.

>> ORDINANCE 2025- 06, ORDINANCE AMENDING THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE TO ADD TERMS IN SECTION 1.07. 00 ACRONYMS AND A DEFINITION TO DEFINE HEALTH STUDIOS, PERSONAL TRAINER, RESIDE/OWNER OCCUPIED, ROOFTOP GARDEN. AMENDING SECTION 2.03. 02 TABLE OF LAND USES TO LOCATE HEALTH STUDIOS. AMENDING SECTION 3.03.

03, DEVELOPMENT WITHIN WETLANDS TO EXEMPT THE W- 1, WHICH IS WATERFRONT MIXED USE. PROPERTIES FROM WETLAND BUFFER REQUIREMENTS. AUTHORIZING ADMINISTRATIVE CORRECTION OF SHIVER IN'S ERRORS, PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY, AND PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR.

>> THANK YOU. DO I HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ON ITEM 9.3?

>> MOVE TO APPROVE.

>> SECOND.

>> I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. ANY ADDITIONAL DISCUSSION? SEEING NONE. MS. BEST, PLEASE START THE VOTE.

[9.4 LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE TEXT AMENDMENTS - PARKING STANDARDS AND PARKING LOT DESIGN - ORDINANCE 2025-07 AMENDING LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE SECTION 7.01.04 PARKING STANDARDS AND PARKING LOT DESIGN TO AFFIRM PARKING MAXIMUM REQUIREMENTS, TO ENABLE A FEE IN LIEU FOR PARKING WITHIN THE 8TH STREET MIXED USE OVERLAY/(MU-8) ZONING, ADDING CLARIFYING LANGUAGE IN TABLE 7.01.04(A) PARKING SPACE REQUIREMENTS, INCORPORATING STANDARDS FOR BARBER SHOPS, BEAUTY SALONS, NAIL SALONS, SKINCARE, OR TATTOO PARLORS, AND MODIFYING THE STANDARDS FOR MEDICAL OFFICES AND CLINICS; AUTHORIZING ADMINISTRATIVE CORRECTION OF SCRIVENER’S ERRORS; PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY; AND PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE. Synopsis: Amends the Land Development Code to modify parking standards and requirements for specific uses, consistent with the Planning Advisory Board direction.]

THAT MOTION PASSES 5-0. WE'LL MOVE ALONG TO 9. 4, LDC TEXT CODE AMENDMENT FOR PARKING STANDARDS AND PARKING LOT DESIGN.

>> THANK YOU, MAYOR. THIS IS CONSIDERATION FOR 2025- 07, UPDATES SECTIONS OF OUR PARKING LOT DESIGN.

IT CLEARLY STATES THE MAXIMUM PARKING ALLOWED AND ADDS PARKING REQUIREMENTS FOR BARBERSHOPS, BEAUTY SALONS, NAIL SALONS, SKIN CARE OR TATTOO PARLORS. THIS WAS APPROVED BY THE PLANNING ADVISORY BOARD AND BY THIS COMMISSION AT FIRST READING.

>> DO I HAVE ANY QUESTIONS?

>> GOING TO READ?

>> ORDINANCE 2025-07.

AN ORDNANCE OF THE CITY COMMISSION AMENDING LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE SECTION 7.01. 04, PARKING STANDARDS AND PARKING LOT DESIGN TO AFFIRM PARKING MA'AM MUX REQUIREMENTS, TO ENABLE A FEE IN LIEU FOR PARKING WITHIN THE 8 TH STREET MIXED USE OVERLAY, ADDING CLARIFYING LANGUAGE IN THE TABLE 7.01. 04 SUB A, PARKING SPACE REQUIREMENTS, INCORPORATING STANDARDS FOR BARBERSHOPS, BEAUTY SALONS, NAIL SALOONS, SKINCARE, OR TATTOO PARLORS, AND MODIFYING THE STANDARDS FOR MEDICAL OFFICES AND CLINICS.

AUTHORIZING ADMINISTRATIVE CORRECTION, PROVIDING FOR SEVER ABILITY, AND PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE.

>> THANK YOU. DO I HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FROM THE COMMISSION?

>> MOVE TO APPROVE. >> SECOND.

>> HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. ANY ADDITIONAL DISCUSSION?

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SEEING NONE. PLEASE START THE VOTE.

[9.5 LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE TEXT AMENDMENTS - HISTORIC DISTRICT COUNCIL - ORDINANCE 2025-08 AMENDING LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE SECTION 9.03.01(B) MEMBERSHIP, REMOVING ALTERNATES FROM THE HISTORIC DISTRICT COUNCIL TO ESTABLISH A SEVEN (7) REGULAR VOTING MEMBER COUNCIL; AUTHORIZING ADMINISTRATIVE CORRECTION OF SCRIVENER’S ERRORS: PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY; AND PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE. Synopsis: Amending the Historic District Council membership to seven (7) voting members and eliminating alternate members.]

THAT MOTION PASSES 5-0. AND ONTO OUR LAST ITEM FOR THIS SECTION, 9. 5, OUR LDC TEXT AMENDMENT FOR OUR HISTORIC DISTRICT COUNCIL.

>> THANK YOU, MAYOR. CONSIDERATION OF 2025-08.

THIS IS THE DISCUSSION ON THE BOARDS AND COMMITTEE'S REALIGNMENT, AND WHAT THIS ACTION WOULD DO WOULD REMOVE THE TWO ALTERNATE MEMBERS FROM THE HDC AND MAKE THE HDC A SEVEN REGULAR MEMBER VOTING. WE PEELED OFF THE PORTIONS RELATED TO THE PLANNING ADVISORY BOARD AND THE BOARD OF ADJUSTMENTS AND REJECTED THOSE AMENDMENTS AT FIRST READING. SO, THIS HAS BEEN AMENDED TO REFLECT THAT CHANGE AND ONLY EFFECTS THE HDC AT THIS TIME. ATTORNEY PRINCE?

>> ORDINANCE 2025-08. AN ORDNANCE OF THE CITY COMMISSION AMENDING LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE SECTION 9.03. 01B MEMBERSHIP, REMOVING ALTERNATES FROM THE HISTORIC DISTRICT COUNCIL TO ESTABLISH A SEVEN REGULAR VOTING MEMBER COUNCIL.

AUTHORIZING ADMINISTRATIVE ADMINISTRATIVE CORRECTION, PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY, AND FOR PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR.

>> THANK YOU. DO I HAVE ANY QUESTIONS?

>> I JUST -- I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE, SO, THE HDC, THEY ARE IN FAVOR OF THIS?

>> YES.

>> MOVE TO APPROVE.

>> SECOND.

>> MOTION AND A SECOND. ANY ADDITIONAL DISCUSSION? SEEING NONE.

PLEASE START THE VOTE.