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[6.1 Fee Schedules: Golf / Parks & Recreation (Recommendation On FY26 Proposed Fee Schedules)] DISCUSSION ITEMS, 6.1F SCHEDULE. >> JEFFREY BIGGERS, GENERAL MANAGER. FERNANDINA BEACH GOLF CLUB. I'M GOING TO GO OVER THE GOLF FEES PORTION. I'M GOING TO START OUT WITH. EVERYBODY SHOULD HAVE A COPY OF ALL OUR FEES. I WANT TO START OFF WITH THE GOLF COURSE HAS NOT HAD ANY FEE INCREASES IN OVER TWO YEARS. THESE INCREASES ARE ACROSS THE BOARD AROUND 10%, DEPENDING ON WHAT FEE IT IS. IT'S GETTING US MORE IN LINE WITH INDUSTRY PRICING. OUR BIGGEST CHANGE IN THESE FEES, IF YOU GO THROUGH THE M, IS WE'VE ELIMINATED A SEASONAL END SEASON PEAK SEASON RATE? WE LOOKED AT THE NUMBERS, AND ACROSS THE BOARD, WE'RE DOING ABOUT AS MANY ROUNDS IN THE SUMMER AS WE HAVE WHEN THE SNOWBIRDS COME DOWN, PLAYS INCREASED. I FELT LIKE WE GET RID OF THAT AND ADJUST THE NUMBERS ACCORDINGLY. >> CAN I ASK A QUICK QUESTION BEFORE YOU GET TOO FAR INTO THAT? WHAT WAS THE REASON OR JUST HELP REMIND ME. I KNOW YOU MAYBE WEREN'T HERE FOR THE WHOLE THING, BUT WHY DID WE HAVE NO INCREASE OVER TWO YEARS? WAS IT BECAUSE WE WERE STILL GETTING THE GOLF COURSE UP? >> I BELIEVE THAT TO BE THE CASE. I THINK WE SET A RATE. WE NEEDED TO IMPROVE THE GOLF COURSE, GET IT IN BETTER SHAPE. I WAS NEW TO THE POSITION. WE HAD STARTED THAT PROCESS AND WE KEPT THEM IN LINE WITH WHAT THEY WERE THE YEAR BEFORE. I THINK THAT TWO YEARS AGO, IT WAS A SUBSTANTIAL AND MAYBE MEMBER PELICAN CAN SAY INCREASE OR CHANGING IN HOW WE HAD THE DYNAMICS OF WHAT WE WERE CHARGING MAYBE THREE YEARS AGO, AS OPPOSED TO WHAT WE'RE GOING INTO THIS YEAR. >> WOULD IT BE FAIR TO SAY YOUR 10% ACROSS THE BOARD, IS IT ENOUGH? FOR NOT HAVING RAISED IT TWO YEARS, IS THAT ENOUGH OF A CATCH UP TO BE WHERE WE PROBABLY SHOULD BE BASED ON THE CONDITION OF THE COURSE? >> I BELIEVE SO, ESPECIALLY WITH THE INCREASED ROUNDS THAT WE'RE GETTING. COURSE CONDITIONS ARE RELATIVE TO THE INCREASED ROUNDS, AND WE ARE HAVING MORE PLAY AT THE GOLF COURSE. >> THANK YOU. >> AGAIN, WITH THAT SAID, I WAS GOING TO SAY WE ARE STILL WITH THE BEST VALUE IN THE AREA AS FAR AS COURSE CONDITIONS AND PRICE. THIS PRICING STRUCTURE WAS DEVELOPED FOR THE 26 BUDGET, WHICH IS GOING TO ALLOW THE GENERAL FUND TRANSFER TO THE GOLF COURSE TO CUT ALMOST IN HALF OF THIS YEAR. ONE OTHER AREA THAT'S NOT ON THE FEE SHEET THAT WE'RE LOOKING TO INCREASE OR AT LEAST CUT SOME COSTS IS WE WILL BE CHARGING A FEE FOR CREDIT CARDS STARTING ON OCTOBER 1ST. >> THE FEES. >> WE'RE WORKING ON THAT. >> ARE YOU GOING TO CHARGE A FLAT RATE OR A PERCENT? >> IT'LL BE A FLAT RATE. THAT'S HOW OUR POINTER SALE WORKS. WE'LL COME UP WITH THAT FLAT RATE. >> YOU MEAN WHETHER IT'S FIVE DOLLAR AS A COMMUNION? >> I APOLOGIZE. IT IS A PERCENTAGES. IT'S GOING TO BE 3% OF THE TOTAL. [OVERLAPPING] >> A PERCENTAGE OF THE TOTAL. >> YES. >> THANKS. >> THAT'S WHERE WE'RE AT ON THESE RATES. DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ON WHAT YOU SEE OR. >> HOW MUCH DID WE PAY IN CREDIT CARD FEES LAST YEAR. >> AROUND 55. [00:05:03] WE'RE GOING TO BE ABOUT 55,000. HERE'S THE THING AS WE'VE INCREASED PRICES, THOSE FEES WILL GO UP. THAT NUMBERS GO UP. WE'RE HOPING THAT'S GOING TO CUT 70, 75% OF THAT COST. AGAIN, YOU CAN PAY WITH CASH OR CHECK, AND YOU DON'T HAVE THAT CHARGE. >> I'D RECOMMEND SAY BEGINNING OF SEPTEMBER, YOU PUT THAT RIGHT OUT THERE IN THE PRO SHOP. PEOPLE GET PREPARED BECAUSE I THINK MOST PEOPLE WILL TURN AROUND AND RIP OUT THE CREDIT CARD AND THEN FIND OUT THEY'RE PAYING HAVE TO PAY 3% MORE, AND THEY'LL. >> THAT IS THE PLAN. SEPTEMBER 1ST IS MY GOAL, AND WE WILL HAVE THAT ON ALL THE REGISTERS IN THE GOLF SHOP 30 DAYS PRIOR TO THAT BEING IMPLEMENTED, AND I PLAN ON PUTTING THAT NOTATION IN THE NEWSLETTER FOR SEPTEMBER, OCTOBER. >> IS THAT $55,000. LET'S SAY WE CAN ERASE THAT WHAT WE WERE EATING. YOU SAID THAT HALF OF SORRY, THE BUDGETED AMOUNT THAT CAME FROM THE GENERAL FUND, I BELIEVE THIS YEAR WAS 450. YOU'RE SAYING HALF IS ABOUT 225, IS THIS INCLUDED IN THE 225 THAT WE WOULD STILL NEED OR DOES THAT ERODE THAT. >> THAT'S HALF FROM THE PREVIOUS YEAR. THIS YEAR IS GOING TO BE A UPCOMING IS GOING TO BE 450. THE GOAL IS TO CUT THAT IN A HALF AGAIN NEXT YEAR, WE INCREASE ROUNDS IN PLAY. YES, MA'AM. >> THANKS. >> I THINK THE RATE INCREASES ARE FAIR. I LOOKED AT THEM, I WENT OVER THEM, AND THE PERCENTAGES VARY, BUT. >> IT DOES. >> YOU GOT TO WORK WITH ROUND NUMBERS, FOR THE MOST PART. YOU DON'T WANT TO BE DEALING WITH ALL ODD NUMBERS THAT PEOPLE CAN REMEMBER. I THINK IT'S A FAIR INCREASE. PEOPLE WILL STILL COMPLAIN ABOUT IT, BUT WITH YOUR INCREASED MAINTENANCE LABOR COSTS. I JUST HAVE TO DO IT. ONE MORE COMMENT, IF I MAY. YOU INCREASED THE MAXIMUM RATE SLIGHTLY. I HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH THAT. I'D LIKE TO TALK TO YOU AT SOME POINT. HOW YOU USE THAT DYNAMIC PRICING TO MAXIMIZE YOUR REVENUE? >> WELL, I WAS GOING TO MENTION THAT TOO. WE'RE LOOKING AT THAT MAYBE EVEN GOING HIGHER. THAT TO ME ON THE HIGH END IS WHEN YOU HAVE THE DEMAND, AND YOU CAN PUT THAT OUT THERE. I'VE USED IT IN THE OPPOSITE FASHION LAST YEAR A COUPLE OF TIMES WHEN WE HAD SLOW PERIODS TO MAYBE ENTICE PEOPLE TO COME AND PLAY, AND FOR INSTANCE, OUR TWILIGHT RATE, I PUT THAT ONLINE. YOU PLAY ALL DAY FOR THE TWILIGHT RATE. YOU'RE NOT PAYING THAT FULL RATE. WHEN WE HAVE SLOWER PERIODS. THAT'S THE WAY I SEE IT. WHEN YOU REVERSE IT, I THINK THAT'S WHEN YOUR DEMAND IS HIGHER. WE DIDN'T DO IT THIS YEAR, BUT THE FIRST WEEK OF JULY, WE WERE DOING OVER 200 AND SOME PLAYERS A DAY THAT WEEK. A LOT OF THAT HAD TO DO WITH OTHER GOLF COURSES INCREASING THEIR PRICES DUE TO THAT TIME OF YEAR. WE SAY WE WERE BUSY. WE HAD OUR T SHEETS FULL. YOU HAVE TO LOOK AT IT BOTH WAYS, BUT YES, IT CAN BE USED ON THAT END. IT CAN ALSO BE USED TO DISCOUNT WHEN YOU HAVE SLOWER TIMES. THAT'S WHAT THAT DYNAMIC PRICE IS THERE FOR. I'M SURE YOU GUYS ARE LOOKING TO SEE, NOT ONLY SHOULD WE BE ABLE TO PICK UP PEOPLE FROM OTHER GOLF COURSES WHEN THEY'RE CHARGING MORE, BUT I WOULD ASSUME THAT IF WE NEED TO RAISE OUR PRICES BECAUSE JUST THE MARKET, WHAT IT SHOULD BE THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT THAT. SCOTT CONFIRMED EARLIER THAT WE CAN MAKE CHANGES AS NEEDED IF THEY'RE SIGNIFICANT. IT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE TO DO THIS, QUARTERLY OR ANYTHING, BUT OBVIOUSLY, ONE THING I WOULD LOVE TO SEE, AND I WAS ASKING SCOTT ABOUT THIS, BUT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE IT FOR ALL OF US FOR THE NEXT BUDGET CYCLE, IS IT WOULD BE REALLY GREAT IF WE HAD A REAL COST, WHAT DOES IT COST, THE ACTUAL COST FOR SOMEBODY TO PLAY AROUND OF GOLF. BUILT INTO ALL OF THAT. >> A LOT OF VARIABLES. >> I KNOW IT'S A LOT OF VARIABLES. BUT JUST A TRUE COST OF WHAT IS IT TO STAFF THE CLUBHOUSE AND TO RUN THE CARTS AND TO HAVE THE MAINTENANCE. THERE'S A FORMULA THAT YOU GUYS COULD CREATE PROBABLY ONE TIME AND JUST PLUG IN SOME NUMBERS EVERY YEAR. BUT I WOULD LOVE TO HAVE A TRUE COST OF WHAT DOES IT COST FOR A PERSON TO GO SWIMMING AT THE POOL IN FERNANDINA, SO THAT WE KNOW IF WE'RE CHARGING FIVE DOLLAR, BUT IT COSTS US $25. THAT'S A NET LOSS OF 20. I THINK THAT WE SHOULD GET INTO SOME DEEPER AREAS OF HOW MUCH IT REALLY COSTS US SO THAT WE CAN DEFEND OUR PRICING OR SAY TO PEOPLE, LISTEN, WE HAVEN'T HAD A RATE INCREASE IN TWO YEARS, AND WE GOT TO GO UP $10. >> INCREASED OF EVERYTHING AT THE GOLF COURSE RIGHT NOW, CHEMICALS, FERTILIZER, SAND, EVERYTHING'S GOING UP. WE LOOK AT THOSE. [00:10:02] >> [INAUDIBLE] [OVERLAPPING] >> IT'S ACROSS THE BOARD. >> READY. >> YES, SIR. >> GO ALONG WITH THIS TOTALLY. WENT OVER IT. THERE'S NOTHING IN HERE I WOULD CHANGE. WHAT I WOULD CONSIDER IS WHAT I'VE BEEN HEARING FROM THE OTHER GOLF COURSES. THAT IS HAVING A MEMBERSHIP DRIVE IN THE MIDDLE OF JULY AND AUGUST, ANOTHER ONE. WE'RE NOT MEMBERS. BUT I'LL JUST GIVE YOU AN IDEA. MILLER RIVER IS $20,000 NOW TO JOIN. THEY'RE USING THE MONTH OF AUGUST TO GO DOWN TO 10,000. THEY'RE CUTTING AT $10,000 THIS MONTH FOR ANYBODY WHO WANTS TO JOIN. WE DON'T HAVE A MEMBERSHIP, PER SE. >> IT'S STRUCTURED DIFFERENT. WE'RE AN ANNUAL FEE. YOU PAID THAT ONE TIME FEE TO PAY TO WALK A RIDE. THOSE TYPES OF CLUBS HAVE, LIKE YOU SAID, AN INITIATION FEE. THEY'RE PAYING MONTHLY DUES. >> YES. >> THEY'RE PAYING FOOD MINIMUMS. THEY'RE GENERATING MONEY WITHOUT ANYBODY COMING TO THE GOLF COURSE IN THOSE AREAS. I WILL SAY THIS. I'VE TALKED WITH FINANCE. WE'RE GOING TO BEGIN INSTEAD OF BEING SO INCLUSIVE INTO THAT FISCAL YEAR WHEN YOU JOIN. YOU'RE GOING TO BE ABLE TO JOIN GOING FORWARD. IF YOU JOIN ON OCTOBER 10TH, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE YOUR MEMBERSHIP RUN TO THE NEXT YEAR. AS WE GET INTO THE SEASON AND WE HAVE PEOPLE MOVE TO THE AREA OR COME IN, YOU CAN JOIN APRIL. IT'LL GO ALL THE WAY TO THE NEXT APRIL. WE'RE LOOKING AT THINGS TO MAKE THAT BETTER. THAT MEANS THAT MEMBERSHIP IS GOING TO BE THERE. >> THAT'S I WANTED TO HERE. >> YES, SIR. >> THAT'S FANTASTIC. >> BUT YOU COULD RUN A SPECIAL. I DON'T KNOW WHAT IT WOULD INCLUDE, BUT IF YOU SIGN UP IN AUGUST, IF YOU'VE NOTICED THEIR MEMBERSHIPS ARE DOWN, YOU GET HOWEVER MANY BUCKETS OF BALLS THROUGHOUT THE YEAR INCLUDED OR SOME INCENTIVE. I'M NOT A GOLFER, SO I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT WOULD BE, BUT YOU MIGHT GET A LITTLE BIT OFF, BUT IF YOU DON'T WANT TO DO A SIGNIFICANT DISCOUNT ON THAT, YOU COULD DO A FOOD AND BEVERAGE CREDIT. YOU COULD DO LIKE I SAID, A RANGE BALLS CREDIT OR SOMETHING THAT WOULD MAYBE INCENTIVIZE PEOPLE THAT LIKE, WELL, THAT'S A GOOD PERK TO JOIN. IF YOU NOTICE THERE'S A TIME WHEN YOU KNOW. >> I AGREE. I THINK WE'RE GOING TO LEARN MORE NOW THAT WE'RE GOING TO DO THIS ALL YEAR MEMBERSHIP TO SEE WHERE WE'RE AT, WHERE ARE PEOPLE COMING IN AND ASKING, WE'RE STILL GOING TO HAVE THIS YEAR, PROBABLY 85% OF OUR ANNUAL FEE MEMBERS SIGN UP IN OCTOBER. BUT THEN FROM THERE, WE'RE GOING TO FIND OUT HOW IT'S GOING TO GO FOR THE REST OF THE YEAR. >> I LOVE THE IDEA OF THE BALLS BECAUSE THE BUCKET OF BALLS DOESN'T REALLY COST US ANYTHING. FOOD AND BEVERAGE ACTUALLY HAS A COST TO IT, BUT THE BALLS DON'T OR IT'S MINIMAL, I WOULD GUESS UNTIL WE GET THE MACHINE'S. BUT LIKE EVEN IF YOU HAD ONE BUCKET A MONTH, IF YOU SIGN UP IN OCTOBER OR WHATEVER YOUR [INAUDIBLE] [OVERLAPPING] >> THAT'S A PRIVILEGE OF JOINING TO, YOU HAVE AN OPTION TO JOIN THE RANGE PLAN. WE'RE NOT LEAVING THAT TO THE PUBLIC. THAT'S WHERE WE'RE MAKING OUR MONEY. BUT AS FAR AS MEMBERSHIP GOES, YES. IF YOU JOIN, MAYBE WE CAN KNOCK A SPECIAL. IF WE DID THAT IN THAT MONTH, LIKE YOU SAID AUGUST, MAYBE WE KNOCKED THAT FEE DOWN IN HALF AND SAY YOU CAN ALSO JOIN THE RANGE PLAN FOR THIS INSTEAD OF THAT. THERE ARE WAYS TO ENTICE PEOPLE TO JOIN. >> I KNOW THAT THIS FEE SCHEDULE IS LOCKED IN AND THEN HAS TO BE VOTED ON BY THE COMMISSION, BUT WHAT FLEXIBILITY DO YOU GUYS HAVE TO BE NIMBLE TO MAKE DECISIONS LIKE THAT? >> THANKS. I'LL HELP A LITTLE BIT WITH THAT QUESTION, SCOTT MICHAELSON, DIRECTOR OF PARKS AND RECREATION. WE DO PRESENT THE FEE SCHEDULE. I THINK THE FIRST READING OR THE FIRST READING IS AUGUST 19TH. I THINK WHAT'S IMPORTANT IS WE DON'T ALWAYS WANT TO OPEN THE FEE SCHEDULE. WE DO HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE CLERK'S OFFICE TO DO THAT. I THINK WHAT'S MOST IMPORTANT IS TO INCLUDE THOSE IN THE GOLF FEE SCHEDULE THAT GIVES HIM THE AUTHORITY TO ADJUST THOSE. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE HAVE DONE IS DONE THE DYNAMIC PRICING. THAT'S A START. NORMALLY WE HAVE, IF THERE'S A LOT OF DEPARTMENTS THAT WANT TO OPEN THE FEE SCHEDULE, WE WOULD OPEN THE FEE SCHEDULE DURING THE YEAR. BUT, LET'S JUST SAY JEFFREY OR WITH THE GOLF COURSE, WE'RE THE ONLY ONE THAT WANTS TO OPEN IT UP. I THINK WE MAY HAVE SOME ISSUES WITH THAT. I THINK PUTTING THOSE OPTIONS IN THE FEE SCHEDULE NOW ALLOWS JEFFREY THE AUTHORITY TO MAKE THOSE ADJUSTMENTS. IF THERE ARE SOME RECOMMENDATIONS THAT YOU SEE THAT MAY NOT REALLY REFLECT THAT, I THINK WE SHOULD HAVE THOSE DISCUSSIONS RIGHT NOW. THE FIRST READING IS ON AUGUST 19TH. THE SECOND READING, THERE CAN BE CHANGES AFTER THE FIRST READING. WE WENT THROUGH THAT LAST YEAR, AND THEN THE FOLLOWING, [00:15:01] I THINK IS MAYBE THE BEGINNING OF SEPTEMBER FOR THE FINAL READING. >> LIKE JEFFREY DID SAY, IS HAVING THAT DYNAMIC PRICING ALLOWS HIM TO FLUCTUATE THOSE FEES, BUT WE DIDN'T PUT ANYTHING IN THERE REGARDING THE ANNUAL MEMBERSHIPS AT THIS POINT. >> I WOULD SAY, IF WE'RE TRYING TO COMPETE, IS SOMEBODY GOING TO GET A MEMBERSHIP A EMILY RIVER, OR THEY'RE GOING TO JOIN THE CLUB. >> I THINK WHEN THEY SEE THE GOLF COURSE AND PLAY IT, THEY'RE GOING TO SEE THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE TWO, AND THEN IT'S A PRICE POINT. I HONESTLY BELIEVE OUR PRICE POINT IS TOTALLY DIFFERENT THAN ANYWHERE ELSE YOU CAN JOIN IN THE AREA, BECAUSE AGAIN, IT'S NOT REALLY A PRIVATE CLUB TYPE MEMBERSHIP. IT'S AN ANNUAL FEE SO THAT YOU GET DISCOUNTED RATES TO PLAY GOLF. THAT'S THE WAY I LOOK AT IT. I THINK WE HAVE THAT NICHE AS WE CONTINUE TO GET BETTER. WE'RE GOING TO HAVE MORE PEOPLE JOIN. IF NOT, THEY JUST PAY TO PLAY GOLF, WHICH IS FINE AS WELL. >> I'M SUPER GLAD THAT MEMBERSHIP IS OPENING THE FLEXIBILITY THAT NEVER MADE SENSE TO ME WHY WE WERE LIMITING OURSELVES TO THAT. >> THAT'S A GOOD. >> GO AHEAD. >> I JUST WANT TO KNOW, SO THE VEHICLE PARKING PASS FEE. >> YES. >> IF YOU'RE PLAYING, YOU DON'T PAY THAT. IS THAT LIKE IF SOMEONE WANTS TO PARK? >> NO, WE HAVE A NUMBER OF HOME SITES AROUND THE GOLF COURSE, WHEN AIRBNBS COME IN OR PEOPLE RENT, THEY CAN'T HAVE SO MANY PARKING PLACES. WE OPEN THAT UP IF THEY COME OVER AND WOULD LIKE TO PARK THE VEHICLE. >> THEY JUST COME INTO THE GOLF CLUB AND CONNECT. >> THEY PAY A FEE, AND WE GIVE THEM A PASS. I'VE ACTUALLY HAD A COUPLE BOATERS PUT THEIR BOAT OUT THERE. I DON'T WANT TO CONTINUE THAT PROCESS. IT'S ANOTHER WAY TO AND INDIVIDUALS DO THAT. >> HOW ELSE CAN WE MAKE MONEY OUT THERE? TELL US. >> IT'S A COMBINATION OF MAKING AND CUTTING SOME COSTS, WE'RE JUGGLING. >> YEAH. >> DO YOU HAVE ANY IDEA OF HOW MUCH REVENUE WE WOULD BE SAVING WITH A 3% OR WHATEVER YOU'RE GOING TO CHARGE ON THE CREDIT CARD? >> WELL, WE WERE GUESSTIMATING 50-60,000 IN CREDIT CARD FEES, AND AND WHAT I SAID EARLIER WAS GUESSTIMATING ABOUT 70, 75%. IT'S GOING TO DEPEND ON OBVIOUSLY, HOW MUCH PEOPLE ARE GOING TO CHANGE THEIR WAYS. THEY ARE GOING TO CONTINUE TO USE THEIR CARD? MOST PEOPLE USE THEIR CREDIT CARD THE GOLF COURSE? >> EITHER WAY, IF THEY PAY THE FEE OR THEY PAY CASH, WE'RE NOT EATING THAT, SO BOTH THOSE SCENARIOS IS A WIN FOR US. >> CORRECT. >> I'D LIKE TO ADDRESS ONE COMMENT ABOUT THE GIVEAWAYS OR THE BONUSES, AND THEY'RE NICE AS THE PLAYER OR THE USER, BUT THEY'RE REALLY HARD ON THE FINANCES OF THE GOLF COURSE. YOU'RE TRYING TO MAXIMIZE THE REVENUE WITHOUT BEING TOO ONEROUS ON THE PEOPLE. I USED TO LOOK FORWARD TO THOSE GUEST PASSES, BUT THEY COME WITH A COST. >> THAT TO ME LIKE A COURSE OR A GOLF CART RENTAL HAS MORE OF A MONETARY TRANSACTION COST, I WOULD THINK, THAN LIKE I WAS SAYING LIKE A BUCKET OF BALLS. I MIGHT BE INCLINED IF I KNEW I GOT ONE BUCKET OF BALLS EVERY MONTH, EVEN IF I WASN'T GOING, I'D BE LIKE, OH, LET'S GO OVER AND HIT SOME BALLS, JUST BECAUSE I'M GETTING A FREE BUCKET, AND THEN, OH, MAYBE WE'RE HAVING A SANDWICH WHILE WE'RE THERE BECAUSE MY BUDDY'S GOING TOO. HE WASN'T GOING TO COME, BUT BECAUSE I'M GOING, SO WHAT IS A BUCKET OF BALLS COST RIGHT NOW, 14 BUCKS? >> ANYWHERE HE'S GOING TO BE BETWEEN 10 AND 20 DEPENDING ON WHAT SIZE YOU GET. >> BUT WE OWN THOSE BALLS, RIGHT? THEY'RE IT'S REALLY JUST THE GUY PICKING THEM UP. >> WE STILL HAVE TO BUY SOME AS WE LOSE THEM, BUT YES AS THEY GET WORN OUT, BUT ANOTHER INCENTIVE WE'VE HAD, WHICH I PLAN ON DOING AGAIN THIS YEAR IS GIVEN THE ANNUAL MEMBERS WHEN THEY JOIN AN OPPORTUNITY TO BUY ROUNDS OF GOLF. WE DID THAT LAST YEAR. WE'RE GOING TO DO IT AGAIN. >> PREPAY THE GOLF. >> PREPAID CARD FOR 10 ROUNDS OF GOLF, WE SELL IT FOR $400, SO THERE'S JUST TEN ROUNDS OF GOLF BASICALLY $40 A ROUND AS OPPOSED TO PAYING WHAT WILL BE NEXT YEAR, 70, $75. THERE ARE INCENTIVES WE'VE DONE. I WASN'T BIG ON A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO BEFORE I WAS HERE, WE DID GIVE OUT THE FREE PASSES, BUT THEN THEN YOU GET USED TO GETTING SOMETHING LIKE THAT, AND I'M LIKE WE'RE TRYING TO FIND WAYS TO INCREASE REVENUES. >> CAN YOU DO THAT CAN YOU DO SOMETHING LIKE THAT WHENEVER ANYBODY LIKE EVERY MONTH, IF YOU BUY YOUR MEMBERSHIP, AND THEN YOU BUY TEN ROUNDS OF GOLF LIKE PREPAID. WHEN YOU START YOUR ANNUAL MEMBERSHIP, LIKE THAT HAPPENS. >> THAT'S WHAT WE DID LAST YEAR, AND THAT WE LET HIM BUY UP TO TWO OF THOSE CARDS. THE MEMBER CAN BUY THAT AND THEN IT'S IN HIS NAME, [00:20:03] BUT HE COULD LET ANY GUESTS USE IT OR PLAY. IT'S A PUNCH CARD AND THEY'D PUNCH OFF THE ROUNDS. I DIDN'T REALLY SELL ANY THROUGHOUT THE YEAR BECAUSE I WANTED TO BE AGAIN A PERK TO JOINING THE CLUB, BUT THOSE OPTIONS ARE THERE. >> DOES IT EXPIRE? >> IT DID NOT EXPIRE THIS YEAR. THEY'RE ALMOST ALL USED FROM WHAT WE SOLD LAST YEAR. VERY FEW LEFT. >> I WOULD THINK, IF YOU HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO PREPAY FOR GOLF GAMES. >> WELL, I GUESS THERE'D BE TWO MINDSETS. IF YOU THOUGHT YOU WERE GOING TO USE IT SO YOU COULD PREPAY IT, YOU'RE GETTING A SIGNIFICANT DISCOUNT, BUT THEY EXPIRE. YOU'RE OUT THERE TO USE IT OR LOSE IT. IF PEOPLE AREN'T USING IT, THEN WE HAVE THAT REVENUE THERE, AND IT WOULD ENCOURAGE MORE PEOPLE TO COME OUT. PEOPLE ARE MORE INCLINED TO USE IT AGAIN, HOPING THAT THEY'RE GOING TO SPEND OTHER MONEY WHEN THEY'RE THERE. >> ABSOLUTELY. HAVE SOMETHING IN THE SHOP, USE THE RESTAURANT. >> I WOULD THINK THAT THEY NEED AN EXPIRATION BECAUSE YOU DON'T WANT TO KEEP THAT ON YOUR BOOKS INDEFINITELY, BECAUSE IN TWO YEARS IF SOMEBODY HAS A CARD THAT THEY PAID $40, BUT NOW WE'RE CHARGING $80. >> I'VE SEEN IT BOTH WAYS. WHEN I OWNED A GOLF SHOP, I DIDN'T MAKE ANY OF MY GUESTS OR SERVICES EXPIRED. I HAD THE MONEY. I WANTED THEM TO BE ABLE TO USE IT. I LOOK AT IT AS A SERVICE, TOO. GOLF'S A LITTLE DIFFERENT IN SOME AREAS, BUT I DO GET YOUR POINT THERE. ABSOLUTELY. >> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? ANY OTHER PLEASE. >> THANK Y'ALL. >> THANK YOU. >> GOOD EVENING. SCOTT MICHAELSON PARKS AND RECREATION DIRECTOR. JUST A FEW REALLY QUICK COMMENTS BEFORE I GET STARTED. I JUST THINK THAT I DO THINK JEFFREY DID A GREAT JOB WITH THE FEES. WE TALKED ABOUT IT A LOT, AND OUR GOAL IS WE HAVE TO GET VOLUME OUT THERE AND MORE GOLFERS. I THINK WE TOOK ALL THAT INTO CONSIDERATION AND TRYING TO HIT A PRICE POINT WHERE WE FELT WE COULD GET THE MOST BANG FOR OUR BUCK. ALSO WITH THIS, I ALSO WANTED TO THANK THOSE TWO LADIES OVER THERE, KATIE, INDIANA FOR HELPING WITH THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE PARKS AND RECREATION FEES. A COUPLE OF THINGS I JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY, WHEN WE DO PARKS AND RECREATION CURRENTLY COLLECTS CREDIT CARD FEES. WELL, WE DON'T IT'S ACTUALLY RIGHT THROUGH OUR POINT OF SALE. A PERCENTAGE IS CHARGED IF YOU USE THE CARD. MOVING FORWARD WITH OUR NEW POINT OF SALE SYSTEM, BOTH PARKS AND RECREATION AND GOLF WILL BE COLLECTING THE MONEY FOR THE USE OF THE CREDIT CARD, AND THEN WE WILL HAVE TO PAY. LEGALLY, WE CANNOT COLLECT ANY MORE MONEY THAN WHAT IT COSTS SO WE'RE HITTING THAT PERCENTAGE AS CLOSE TO AS POSSIBLE AS WHAT IT'S GOING TO CHARGE US. WE WOULD THEN GET A BILL FROM OUR POINT OF SALE, THE CREDIT CARD COMPANY THAT WE WOULD PAY. THAT'S HOW IT WILL WORK. >> IT MIGHT NOT BE ZERO, BUT IT WOULD BE CLOSE TO LOW. >> YEAH, AND RUNNING ALL THAT, AND ESPECIALLY WITH PAM AND JEFFREY RUNNING THAT, WE RAN IT LIKE, WHERE WE THOUGHT WE WERE GOING TO BE [OVERLAPPING]. >> [INAUDIBLE] >> OF COURSE, YES. >> ONE THING WITH THAT IS WITH US, WE HAVE PEOPLE THAT YOU PURCHASE A SHIRT AND COME BACK THREE DAYS LATER, AND MY SON DIDN'T LIKE THE COLOR AND WHATNOT. WHEN WE RUN A CREDIT LIKE THAT, WE'RE GETTING HIT FOR A FEE, AND WE WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO GET ANY FEEDBACK FROM THAT. THAT'S WHY YOU'RE NOT GOING TO GET THE 100%. THIS EVENING, WE HAD 24 PLAYS SPARK GOLF TONIGHT. WE DON'T REALLY DO ANYTHING OTHER THAN PRINT CART SIGNS FOR THEM. THAT BUSINESS RUNS AT ALL, AND THEN THEY SEND US A CREDIT CARD NUMBER. WE PUNCH THAT CARD IN. OUR SYSTEM, IF WE PUNCH IT IN, WE CAN'T CHARGE A SURCHARGE FEE. IF YOU WERE LIKE WHAT MR. CAMARO IS SAYING ABOUT THE PRIVATE CLUBS. IF YOU HAD MONTHLY DUES, YOU WOULD HAVE TO PUNCH THAT CARD AND WE WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO CHARGE THAT FEE. IT'S NOT GOING TO BE 100%, I DON'T THINK. WE'RE HOPING IT'S GOING TO BE HIGHER THAN THAT, NOT 100%. THANK YOU, SCOTT. >> WILL YOU BE USING DEBIT CARDS AS LIKE CREDIT CARDS? >> THAT IS CORRECT. THERE WOULD BE A FEE ON THAT BEING THAT WE ARE AN ARM OF A GOVERNMENT AGENCY, LEGALLY, WE ARE ALLOWED TO COLLECT THAT. >> THE DEBIT CARD. >> BECAUSE EVEN DEBIT CARDS, THE BANKS ARE CHARGING THE ELECTRONIC FUND TRANSFERS, WHETHER IT'S [OVERLAPPING] >> IT'S NOT THE SAME. >> IT IS. THEY CHARGE YOU AS A MERCHANT, [00:25:07] WHICH WE WOULD BE A MERCHANT TO EVEN USE THE SERVICES, AND THEN THE CAR CHARGE AS IF IT'S A CREDIT CARD. IT'S ADDITIONAL. >> WITH THE POINT OF SALE THAT PARKS AND RECREATION IS GOING TO HAVE, THEY GIVE US DIFFERENT A PERCENTAGES THAT WE WILL CHARGE BASED ON WHAT IS BEING USED. IF THERE'S AN ELECTRONIC TRANSFER, THE FEE IS LOWER, BUT THAT POINT OF SALE SYSTEM WORKS WITH US TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE CHARGING THE CORRECT AMOUNTS. THE ULTIMATE GOAL FOR US IS TO COLLECT VERY CLOSE TO WHAT WE ARE BEING CHARGED, SO THEN WE WOULD PAY THAT. IT'S THE SAME THING FOR CALL. WITH THAT BEING SAID, THANK YOU, DEANA, AND KATIE, WORKING THROUGH THE PARKS AND RECREATION FEE SCHEDULE. BASICALLY, ACROSS THE BOARD WITH PARKS AND RECREATION, THERE ARE NOT A LOT OF CHANGES. WE FEEL LIKE, IT'S OUR JOB TO PROVIDE A SERVICE TO THE COMMUNITY. OBVIOUSLY, WE DO NOT RECOVER ALL OF OUR COSTS. WE NEVER HAVE. USUALLY, PARKS AND RECREATION DEPARTMENTS DO NOT COVER ALL THE COSTS. WE CURRENTLY DON'T, LIKE REMEMBER COKE HAD TALKED ABOUT IS HAVING A COST PERCENTAGE. I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE CAN LOOK AT AND ARE OPEN TO. OUR PLAN NEXT FISCAL YEAR IS TO DO, I LOST MY TRAIN OF THOUGHT. TO DO THE PLAN FOR PARKS AND RECREATION, WHAT'S THE NAME OF THAT WORD? WELL, ANYWAY, A LONG TERM PLAN FOR PARKS AND RECREATION. >> A MASTER PLAN. >> A MASTER PLAN. I'M SO SORRY. I LOST IT. [OVERLAPPING] I COULDN'T THINK OF IT. I THINK WORKING WITH THE MASTER PLAN FOR NEXT YEAR, I THINK MAYBE WE COULD INCORPORATE THAT, AND I'M GOING TO BE INTRODUCING GLENN HERE SHORTLY, AND HE HAS A LOT OF EXPERIENCE WITH PARKS AND RECREATION DOING THAT. I THINK IT'S SOMETHING WE COULD LOOK AT, AS WELL AS LOOKING AT THE MASTER PLAN, BUT WITH THE FEES, VERY LITTLE CHANGED ACROSS THE BOARD, THE WAY THAT WE HAVE DONE IT PREVIOUSLY AND CONTINUED THIS YEAR IS THERE'S ABOUT REALLY CLOSE TO A 25% CHARGE FROM A CITY RESIDENT TO A NON CITY RESIDENT ACROSS BASICALLY ALL AVENUES, E SERVICES, AQUATICS. WE ADDED JUST A FEW THINGS. FOR EXAMPLE, WE THOUGHT THERE WAS POSSIBLY A NEED TO HAVE A PLACE FOR BIRTHDAY PARTIES AT THE PARK CENTER THAT WE COULD PROVIDE, WE DO THIS AT THE POOL, BUT, IN THE MIDDLE OF SUMMER, AND IT'S STEAMING HOT OUTSIDE. WE HAVE KIDS THAT WANT TO PLAY BASKETBALL OR VOLLEYBALL. WE ADDED THAT IN. WE ALSO UPDATED OUR FIELD FEES AS WELL AND SEPARATED BASICALLY THE LIGHTING. THEN WE DID ADD A DEPOSIT FOR THE PARADES. THE PARADES DID NOT HAVE A DEPOSIT, BUT WE FELT LIKE THERE'S A LOT OF WORK THAT GOES INTO STAFF HOLDING A PARADE. BASICALLY, IT'S TRYING TO MAKE SURE THAT BASICALLY WITH THE CLEAN UP OF ALL THE EVENTS THAT ARE GOING ON IS HOPING THAT THAT WILL HELP WITH THE AFTERMATH OF SOME OF THESE EVENTS AND BASICALLY CLEANING UP, BUT WITH THAT, I HOPE THAT YOU HAD THE TIME TO REVIEW THIS. IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS. STAFF IS MORE THAN WELCOME TO HEAR THEM. IF THERE ARE ANY RECOMMENDATIONS OF CHANGES THAT YOU MAY HAVE, WE WOULD LOVE TO HEAR THEM. >> I WOULD LIKE TO GOING TO SEGUE THIS INTO A BIG CONTROVERSIAL TOPIC OF PAID PARKING. ONE OF THE DISCUSSIONS AROUND PAID PARKING IS TO BE ABLE TO BASICALLY CHARGE A FEE FOR SERVICE FOR PARKING DOWNTOWN THAT WOULD THEN GO IN TO BE ABLE TO FUND THE SEAWALL, DOWNTOWN DOWNTOWN REVITALIZATION AND THE DEMOLITION AND REBUILDING OF BRET. I'VE HAD A LOT OF CONVERSATIONS BECAUSE I THINK IT'S REASONABLE, THAT'S A CONSUMPTION CHARGE, RIGHT FOR THINGS PEOPLE ARE USING. ONE OF THE PLACES WE DON'T DO THAT AT ALL, AND A VERY POPULAR PLACE IS WITH THE PICKLEBALL. I DON'T KNOW THAT TENNIS IS AS PREVALENT THESE DAYS, WITH PICKLEBALL AS LIKE A NEW OR MORE OR NEED. [00:30:08] I'M STRUGGLING FOR WORDS LIKE YOU ARE. >> I FEEL LIKE WE REALLY SHOULD BE LOOKING AT CHARGING FOR THAT BECAUSE THE MAJORITY OF THE PEOPLE THAT PLAY PICKLEBALL IN OUR COURTS ARE NOT CITY RESIDENTS. I THINK THAT WE NEED TO BE LOOKING AT OPPORTUNITIES LIKE THAT, WHERE WE CURRENTLY HAVE A GAP THAT WE COULD OFFSET THIS. THERE IS A NEW PICKLEBALL FACILITY OUT OF. I THINK IT'S LIKE 17. >> CORRECT. >> BUT THEY CHARGE. >> IS IT PRIVATELY OWNED? >> IT IS PRIVATELY OWNED. THEY CHARGE FOR THOSE COURTS. AGAIN, FOR US TO BE ABLE TO WE PAY TO MAINTAIN THOSE COURTS, WE FENCING, WHAT WE JUST DID FENCING AT THE TENNIS COURTS. HOW MUCH DID THAT COST OR REPLACING LIGHTS? IT WAS IN THE THOUSAND. SEVERAL. >> THE NEW LED LIGHTS COST, WE JUST COMPLETED THOSE AROUND $60,000. >> THERE IS A DOLLAR AMOUNT ASSOCIATED WITH THAT FOR PEOPLE WHO ARE USING THOSE COURTS. KATIE REMINDED ME THAT USED TO BUY A KEY TO THE COURTS. I'M NOT SUGGESTING WE DO THAT. THAT'S A CLUSTER, BUT EVEN CITY RESIDENTS, YOU COULD GET A KEY FOR A FEE. I WAS MOSTLY THE COST, BUT EVEN NON RESIDENTS COULD GET IT WAS A HIGHER FEE. THERE WAS SOME COSTS ASSOCIATED WITH USING THOSE FACILITIES. I THINK THAT WE NEED TO BE LOOKING BECAUSE OF ALL OF THE COMPLAINTS OF PEOPLE NOT WANTING TO PAY FOR SOME OF THE THINGS THAT THEY'RE USING, THIS IS ANOTHER PLACE WHERE WE COULD CAPTURE SOME OF THAT. I THINK THAT WE ARE GROSSLY MISSING THE BOAT. I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S OBVIOUSLY IT'S LATE IN THE GAME TO DO IT FOR THIS YEAR, BUT I FEEL LIKE IT'S SOMETHING THAT SHOULD BE BEING LOOKED AT AND CONSIDER BECAUSE WE'RE NOT COLLECTING MONEY THAT IS COSTING US MONEY. WHEN ALL OF US GET OUR PROPERTY BILLS WITH AN INCREASE OVER 20 YEARS TO TAKE A BOND OUT TO PAY FOR THINGS LIKE THIS, WE WERE CHARGING FOR PICKLEBALL, WHETHER IT'S BY THE HOUR OR BY THE COURT, HOWEVER MANY PEOPLE WANT TO PLAY. I THINK A COURT PROBABLY MAKES MORE SENSE. >> YOU ARE CORRECT. WE USED TO CHARGE A FEE. YOU'D COME UP TO THE REC CENTER AND GET A KEY, AND YOU HAVE THE KEY FOR THE YEAR. THEN WE COULD CHANGE THE LOCKS AND SO FORTH. THE OTHER THING TO LOOK AT IS AND THIS IS WHERE IT CAN GET DIFFICULT IS HOW DO YOU VIEW THE COURTS? THEN WHEN YOU START CHARGING FEES, DO YOU HAVE TO HAVE AN ATTENDANT ON STAFF TO MONITOR THEM AND TO MAKE SURE PEOPLE ARE. BUT I ALSO UNDERSTAND YOUR POINT IS, I THINK, LOOKING AT ALL THESE AREAS AND SEE WHERE WE CAN CHARGE FEES THAT WE'RE CURRENTLY NOT. >> AGAIN, I THINK THAT'S WHERE THE TRUE COST OF WHAT EACH ITEM COST WOULD BE HELPFUL IN THE LONG TERM BECAUSE WE CAN SAY, EVEN IF IT'S SOMETHING THAT MAYBE CITY RESIDENTS DON'T PAY FOR IT BECAUSE WE'RE ALREADY PAYING FOR IT IN OUR TAXES, BUT MAYBE IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE DO NEED TO CHARGE A NOMINAL FEE FOR THE USAGE BECAUSE IT COSTS MORE TO MAINTAIN. I JUST THINK THAT ESPECIALLY SOMETHING THAT'S GOING TO BE GETTING THAT MUCH USE. IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT'S JUST THERE AND RARELY USED, WHICH WE STILL HAVE TO MAINTAIN, BUT IT'S GETTING A LOT OF USE. I THINK THAT WE NEED TO LOOK AT THAT SERIOUSLY AND BE CHARGING, MAYBE I GET THE FLAT RATE 25% DIFFERENCE BETWEEN CITY RESIDENTS AND NONRESIDENTS, BUT WE, I THINK NEED TO BE LOOKING AT THAT REALISTICALLY, TOO, BASED ON WHAT IT COSTS US. >> I DON'T KNOW, IS THERE MUCH PRESSURE ON THE PARKS AND REC DEPARTMENT AS A WHOLE FOR REDUCING THEIR BUDGET? >> WHAT WERE THE THIRD LARGEST DEPARTMENT BEHIND POLICE AND FIRE? >> YOU PROVIDE THE FUN STUFF FOR THE CITY RESIDENTS AND VISITORS, DON'T YOU? >> I THINK STAFF, AND I THINK MYSELF, WE CAN TAKE A LOOK AT THIS. WE ARE THE THIRD LARGEST BUDGET. I'M HAPPY THAT THE BUDGET THAT WE DID MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS YEAR IS WE WERE ABLE TO STAY RELATIVELY FLAT WITH A SMALL INCREASE WITHIN PARKS AND RECREATION, AND EVEN WITH THAT, [00:35:01] I DO BELIEVE THAT WE ARE GOING TO CONTINUE TO MAINTAIN OUR LEVEL OF SERVICE, WHICH IS EXTREMELY IMPORTANT TO MYSELF. I FEEL LIKE WE HAVE SO MANY GREAT THINGS IN THIS TOWN. BUT ONE THING THAT WE HAVE TO CONSTANTLY WORK ON IS MAINTAINING WHAT WE HAVE. THAT DOES COME A AT AN EXPENSE. WE TALK ABOUT THE BOARDWALKS AND I'M VERY PROUD THAT IN THE LAST 2-3 YEARS, WE'VE LOOKED AT THE BOARDWALKS IN A DIFFERENT WAY AND STARTED RE-DUCKING SOME OF THEM WHERE WE DIDN'T HAVE TO COMPLETELY REDO ALL OF THEM. THAT SAVED US, I DON'T KNOW EXACTLY, BUT AT LEAST OVER 100 COUPLE HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLAR. I THINK TAKING AND LOOKING AT ALL OF THAT STUFF. I THINK THAT'S OUR RESPONSIBILITY, AND WE WILL ALWAYS LOOK AT OUR EXPENSES, AND I THINK WE HAVE TO LOOK AT WHAT WE CHARGE IN HOPES THAT IT'S FAIR ACROSS THE BOARD, WHERE WE CAN GET VOLUME OF PEOPLE COMING TO USE OUR POOL TO USE OUR YOUTH CENTERS. I THINK THAT'S OUR ULTIMATE GOAL. I THINK THE FEES THAT WE HAVE PRESENTED ARE IN LINE WITH WHAT THE GOING RATE IS. I WANT TO WORK ON GETTING MORE PEOPLE INTO OUR FACILITIES FOR RENTALS. ONE THING IS, IS LOOKING AT THE PRICE OF RENTALS AROUND THIS ISLAND AND HOW HIGH THEY'VE GOTTEN, WE'RE THE BEST DEAL IN TOWN. WE HOPE TO CONTINUE THAT. BUT I ALSO UNDERSTAND THAT IT COSTS MONEY. WE DO HAVE TO CONTINUE TO LOOK AT WHERE WE MAY NEED TO ADJUST FEES AND NOT ONLY ADJUSTING FEES, BUT TO MAYBE INCORPORATE FEES INTO OTHER LOCATIONS. I THINK WE CAN LOOK AT THAT IN THE NEXT FEE SCHEDULE AS WE MOVE FORWARD AND WORK WITH THE MASTER PLAN AND MAYBE DEVELOP A COST RECOVERY ON WHAT OUR FEES ARE BASED ON THE EXPENSES. >> WE'RE ADDING A NEW PARK THAT BY THE NEXT BUDGET CYCLE SHOULD BE. WHEN IS THE WATERFRONT PARK SUPPOSED TO BE DONE? >> MR. GLENN IS HERE TONIGHT, AND HE'S ACTUALLY GOING TO DISCUSS THAT. I DON'T WANT TO THROW A DATE OUT THERE YET. >> WHEN WE HAVE THAT PROBABLY BY THE NEXT BUDGET CYCLE, WE'LL HAVE TO START PLANNING REALLY FOR THE MAINTENANCE OF THAT. IS THAT SOMETHING NEW THAT WILL BE ADDED? >> THE MAINTENANCE WILL FALL INTO FISCAL YEAR 26. I CAN TELL YOU THAT. WE'VE TAKEN THAT INTO CONSIDERATION. AS I DON'T WANT TO GET AHEAD OF MYSELF, BUT WE HAVE A LOT OF LARGE PROJECTS THAT ARE ON THE HORIZON, AND I'M GRATEFUL THAT GLENN IS HERE TO HELP PARKS AND RECREATION THROUGH THAT. THERE'S A LOT OF STUFF COMING FORWARD. BUT WITH THAT, DID YOU HAVE A QUESTION? >> I HAVE A QUESTION ON SOMETHING HERE. >> OF COURSE. >> IF YOU'RE ON A DIFFERENT PART OF THIS, IF YOU'RE DONE WITH. >> YOU GO AHEAD. >> I WAS JUST SAYING FOR THE NEXT. IS THERE A REASON THE PRIVATE POOL RENTAL FOR 41-60 PEOPLE? I KNOW THAT THAT'S AT ATLANTIC BRECK CENTER IS REMOVED, BUT IS THERE A REASON YOU CAN'T DO MORE PEOPLE AT MLK? >> OUR CAPACITY AT MLK IS 40 PEOPLE. THAT'S WHAT THE FIRE MARSHAL HAD GAVE US FOR THE POOL. >> IS THERE A SIGN BY THE SPLASH PAD THAT SAYS THE CAPACITY IS LIKE 30 SOMETHING IN THE SPLASH PAD? >> WELL, THE FIRE MARSHAL SAYS 40 FOR THE WHOLE FACILITY. IT'S NOT SEPARATED. I'D HAVE TO LOOK AT THAT SIGN, BUT WE FOLLOW WHAT THE FIRE MARSHAL TOLD US. WELL, WE JUST CAN'T HOLD PARTIES AT ATLANTIC, IT'S ALMOST LIKE A FALSE ADVERTISEMENT BECAUSE WE'D LIKE TO. OUR POOL IS JUST SO OVER USED THERE THAT WE JUST CAN'T. >> NO, I GET THAT. I GET THE FIRE MARSHAL THING, BUT THAT DOESN'T. >> THE POOL ITSELF. [OVERLAPPING] >> YOU CAN DO MORE AT THAT WHOLE SPACE THAN THAT, BUT IF THEY SAY NO. BUT I DO THINK I SAW A SIGN ON THE PROPERTY BECAUSE I WAS TOLD 60. I DON'T KNOW IF THEY CALLED YOU GUYS ABOUT THIS WEEK. THEY THINK THEY GOT MORE LIFEGUARDS THERE BECAUSE WE WERE A LITTLE OVER 40, BUT I WAS TOLD 60 WHEN I RESERVED IT, AND WE WEREN'T QUITE AT THAT NUMBER. WHEN I WAS THERE, I'M PRETTY SURE IT'S SOMEWHERE NEAR THE SPLASH PAD OR SOMETHING. I WAS HANGING UP DECORATIONS, AND I WAS LIKE, THIS IS A WEIRD SIGN BECAUSE IF THEY'RE TRYING TO PUSH 40, WHY DOES THIS SPECIFIC AREA? I WANT TO SAY IT'S GOING INTO THE SPLASH PAD, THAT THERE WAS A SIGN THAT SAID 32 PEOPLE IN THE SPLASH PAD AREA WRITTEN ON ONE OF THE RULES THINGS, AND I WAS LIKE, WELL, THIS IS 32, THE WHOLE PLACE CAN'T BE 40 BECAUSE, IT WOULD BE LIKE EIGHT PEOPLE IN THE OTHER AREA DOES IT. IT MIGHT BE ONE OF THE OLD ONES. [OVERLAPPING] >> I THINK A GREAT POINT. I THINK THAT WE NEED TO CLARIFY THAT. [00:40:02] >> WE CAN CLARIFY THAT, BUT ALSO JUST IN GENERAL BASE POOL. WE ERR ON THE SIDE OF CAUTIONS. WE WILL ALWAYS STAFF AN EXTRA LIFEGUARD IF WE THINK THAT SOMEONE'S GOING TO HAVE MORE OR BUT OUR GOAL IS WE DON'T WANT 40 PEOPLE IN THAT POOL. OVER 40. [OVERLAPPING] >> THERE WAS JUST PEOPLE. >> WE DO, JUST FOR EVERYONE'S AWARENESS, WE HAVE SOME NEW STAFF. THEY'RE DOING THEIR BEST AND THEY'RE PHENOMENAL, BUT THEY MAY HAVE GIVEN THE WRONG INFORMATION. >> WE WILL CONFIRM THAT. >> I JUST DIDN'T KNOW IF THE FIRE MARSHAL THING MAKES SENSE, BUT I WAS GOING TO SAY, I THINK THAT THERE WOULD BE AN OPPORTUNITY TO DO MORE IF YOU COULD, BUT IF THE FIRE MARSHAL DOESN'T LET YOU, THEN YOU CAN. >> WE DID CROSS OUT THE ARC BECAUSE OF THE FACT OF THERE'S JUST NO TIME FOR THAT. THE POOL PARTIES WOULD MOVE TO MLK, BUT WE NEED TO CONFIRM AND WE'LL DO THAT TOMORROW MORNING TO CONFIRM THAT. >> I HAVE A QUESTION. SAY SOMEONE WAS TO RUN OUT A POOL FOR A PARTY OR LIKE A PAVILION FOR A PLAYGROUND, AND IT WAS STORMING, LIGHTNING AND LIKE THE PIC CENTER WAS OPEN. I'M NOT SURE IF THIS IS WRITTEN OUT ALREADY. WOULD THEY BE ABLE TO POSSIBLY, MOVE IT IF IT WAS AVAILABLE? OR WOULD THEY BE REFUNDED? WHAT WOULD THE PROTOCOL BE? >> RIGHT NOW FOR WEATHER EVENTS, IT DEPENDS ON WHAT THE WEATHER IS LOOKING LIKE. WE DO TRY IF THE AUDITORIUM IS AVAILABLE, WE WILL OFFER IT. THAT'S LIKE IF THE PARTY IS LITERALLY THERE AND HAPPENING AND OUR ALARM GOES OFF. WE TRY TO BE AS ACCOMMODATING AS POSSIBLE. IF IT'S PRIOR TO YOUR PARTY AND YOU CALL US, AND YOU'RE LIKE, I'M NERVOUS. I WANT TO WE'LL WORK WITH YOU. WE WOULDN'T JUST GIVE A FULL REFUND. WE WOULD TRY AND WORK WITH YOU THE BEST WE COULD. >> BECAUSE IT'S HARD TO IF IT'S THE SPUR OF THE MOMENT, AND LET'S SAY YOU'RE OUT AT A PARK. WE REALLY CAN'T HOLD THE ATLANTIC AUDITORIUM, THINKING THAT THERE'S BUT I DO THINK KATIE HIT THE NAIL ON THE HEAD IS IF THERE IS AN ISSUE, WE WILL DO EVERYTHING IN OUR POWER TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU DON'T HAVE TO RESCHEDULE, AND IF YOU DO WANT TO COME TO THE PLACE, IF WE CAN GET SOMEBODY IN TO BE AN ATTENDANT, OR WE ALWAYS WORK WITH THOSE INDIVIDUALS. >> I WILL SAY THE GUARDS THIS WEEKEND. IT WAS RAINING WHEN WE GOT THERE, BUT THEN IT CLEARED UP, BUT I HAD RENTED IT EARLY FOR SETUP, AND THERE WAS NOBODY IN THE AUDITORIUM. THEY DID LET US GO PUT FOOD IN THAT FRIDGE AND KEEP SOME STUFF INSIDE BECAUSE NOBODY HAD THE MLK AUDITORIUM THAT DAY AND SO THAT? >> THERE ARE TIMES WHERE IT'S BEING USED. >> AT FIRST I'D SAID I'LL JUST LEAVE IT ON MY CAR, LEAVE MY CAR RUNNING. I ASKED IF THERE'S ANY AND THEN THE GUY WHO WAS THE LIFEGUARD WENT, AND HE WAS LIKE, ACTUALLY, IT WAS REALLY NICE OF HIM. THAT WAS FUN. >> IF THERE'S NO OTHER QUESTIONS OR CONCERNS, WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO HEAR IS THAT THERE IS CONSENSUS. >> I HAVE ONE QUESTION. >> THEN AFTER TOM, IF THERE IS A CONSENSUS, I WOULD LIKE TO HEAR A CONSENSUS MOVING FORWARD TO WHEN THIS IS PRESENTED TO THE CITY COMMISSION ON AUGUST 19TH, THAT IF THERE ARE QUESTIONS, I CAN LET THEM KNOW THAT WE DO HAVE YOUR SUPPORT, WHERE WE ARE WORKING THROUGH SOME OF THESE, BUT FOR THE MOST PART, YOU'RE FINE WITH OUR FEE SCHEDULES. >> SCOTT, THE QUESTION I HAVE FOR YOU IS I CHECKED WITH ST. JOHN'S COUNTY YESTERDAY BECAUSE SOMEBODY BROUGHT UP SOMETHING TO ME ON MONDAY AND ASKING IF THERE'S MILITARY DISCOUNTS FOR PEOPLE FOR SERVICES THAT WE RENDER IN THE CITY. >> GO AHEAD KATIE. >> IF YOU'RE A MILITARY, YOU GET THE CITY RATE. WE DON'T HAVE A DISCOUNT THAT'S SPECIFICALLY FOR MILITARY. >> I KNOW WE DON'T. >> THEY ACTUALLY DO HAVE A DISCOUNT FOR MILITARY, WHATEVER IT IS, I THINK IT'S 5% OR 10%, DEPENDING ON WHAT IT IS. I THINK IT'S SOMETHING WE SHOULD LOOK INTO. NOT BECAUSE I WANT TO TAKE MONEY AWAY FROM SOMEBODY, BUT IT'S BECOMING NOW POSSIBLY MORE OF THE DAY TO DAY OPERATIONS OF BUSINESSES, OF ORGANIZATIONS AND EVERYTHING ELSE TO HAVE A MILITARY RATE OR DISCOUNT. THIS BUDGET SET. I THINK IT'S A GREAT BUDGET. I THINK THE FEE SET STRUCTURE IS. BUT I THINK WE SHOULD MAYBE CONSIDER THAT AS A POSSIBILITY THAT THOSE WHO ARE MILITARY SHOULD HAVE A DISCOUNT. [00:45:03] >> WHAT DO YOU MEAN BY MILITARY? >> ACTIVE AND INACTIVE MEMBERS. >> I COULD GO WITH JUST ACTIVE. I WOULD NOT GO WITH. >> WHY? >> TO LONG AT THE DISCUSSION, I JUST WOULD NOT BE IN FAVOR OF THAT MYSELF. >> WELL, I'M GOING TO SAY THIS TO YOU. TALK TO THE GUYS THAT ARE INACTIVE. THEY HAVE AS MUCH TO DO ABOUT THE GUYS THAT ARE ACTIVE. SORRY. THAT'S IT. >> INSTEAD OF HAVING A SEPARATE, DISCOUNT, WOULD IT BE POSSIBLE OR WHAT IS THE PROTOCOL FOR GETTING APPROVED LIKE A MILITARY PERSON IF THEY SHOW THAT THEY'RE A MILITARY, THEIR ENTRANCE OR THEIR FEE IS FREE. MAYBE NOT THEIR WHOLE FAMILY AND THEIR WHOLE ENTOURAGE. SOMETIMES THEY'LL GIVE A DISCOUNT FOR ANYBODY, YOUR WHOLE TOTAL WOULD BE A DISCOUNT. IF IT'S LIKE $100, IT WOULD BE A DISCOUNT. BUT WHAT IF WE JUST SAID, FOR A MILITARY PERSON, THAT THERE'S NO CHARGE FOR YOU, BUT THEN THE REST OF YOUR PARTY IS CHARGED? >> WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO DO IS. >> IT WOULDN'T BE A DIFFERENT RATE. >> I KNOW WHAT YOU'RE SAYING? GO AHEAD. >> [LAUGHTER] I DIDN'T KNOW YOU'RE LOOKING AT ME. I HAVE AN IDEA, BUT I DIDN'T RUN THIS PAST SCOTT. I WOULD SAY THAT I THINK THAT WE HAVE A WAY TO WORK THIS IN. IT WOULDN'T BE INCLUDED IN THE FEE SCHEDULE, BUT I THINK THAT THIS IS SOMETHING WE COULD WORK ON TOGETHER AND BRING BACK TO YOU GUYS TO LOOK AT IN SOME UPCOMING MEETINGS WHERE MAYBE IT'S NOT, FREE, BUT THEY'RE DEPENDING ON WHAT YOU PROVIDE US OR HOW MANY YEARS YOU HAD IN OR WHATEVER. WE CAN DO A PERCENTAGE, AND WE CAN EASILY, MILITARY PEOPLE HAVE A FORM THAT THEY CAN GIVE US THAT WE CAN USE. IT'S MEASURABLE, AND YOU CAN USE IT TO, OFFER A DISCOUNT. >> LISTEN, I AM NOT TRYING TO LOWER OUR FEES OR ANYTHING ELSE LIKE THIS. I JUST WANTED TO BRING IT OUT TO SEE IF THERE WAS ANY FEEL FOR DOING SOMETHING LIKE THIS IN OUR CITY. >> WE CAN LOOK INTO THAT. >> THANK YOU. >> WE'RE ALSO TRYING TO COME UP WITH A BETTER POLICY, A MORE THOROUGH POLICY ON BEING ABLE TO TAKE THE CORRECT INFORMATION FOR THE PEOPLE THAT ARE NOT ABLE TO PAY THESE FEES THAT CAN AFFORD THE FEES TO COME TO OUR FACILITIES, AND WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE MAKE OUR FACILITIES AFFORDABLE TO EVERYBODY. THAT'S ALSO VERY IMPORTANT TO US. I THINK AS WE GO THROUGH THAT PROCESS, WE WILL LOOK AT THAT RECOMMENDATION AS WELL. >> THANK YOU, SCOTT. >> THAT PROGRAM IN ORDER TO DO THAT, OBVIOUSLY, THE Y IS A 5013, AND THEY HAVE FUND RAISING THAT OFFSETS FOR PEOPLE WHO, ON THEIR NEED BASE, AND IT GETS FUNDED THROUGH THOSE SCHOLARSHIPS. IS THERE SOMETHING THAT WE COULD DO WHERE IT'S LIKE A WRITE OFF IF WE WERE ABLE TO GIVE THOSE. >> THAT'S WHAT WE ARE LOOKING AT IS HOW CAN WE DEVELOP THAT? IN TURN, WE'RE PROVIDING THESE FOR A NOMINAL FEE. BUT YET, IN TURN, MAYBE WE HAVE DONE A FUNDRAISER ON THE OTHER SIDE. THAT'S HOW WE'RE OFFSETTING THAT COST. ACTUALLY WE'RE WORKING ON THAT. >> SORRY. ONE MORE THING ABOUT THAT IS MAYBE THE SAME WAY THAT THEY'RE ABLE TO SET UP SOME OF THOSE FUNDS FOR CONSERVATION, WHERE PEOPLE CAN DONATE TO THAT, THAT MIGHT BE A SCHOLARSHIP DRIVE THAT WE COULD OFFER EVERY YEAR WHERE PEOPLE CAN JUST DONATE MAYBE EVEN LITTLE BITS, BUT IT BUILDS UP OVER TIME THAT CAN BE USED TO OFFSET THOSE COUNT COSTS. >> WHAT WE DID IN THE DISTRICT OF COLUMBIA IS THAT WE USED THE SCHOOL SYSTEM TO GET THEIR RECORDS OF ANYBODY THAT WAS CONSIDERED FREE LUNCH. THAT'S WHERE WE STARTED OUR PROCESS OF DEVELOPING PEOPLE THAT COULD NOT PAY FOR CERTAIN THINGS, THOSE THAT WERE ON FREE LUNCH, GUESS WHAT? YOUR FAMILY QUALIFIED FOR HAVING, SERVICES. >> WE JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE EVERYTHING IN LINE BEFORE. >> EXACTLY. THERE'S A LOT OF PAPERWORK. I'M TELLING YOU THERE'S A TON OF PAPERWORK. [00:50:02] THAT GOES INTO THE SYSTEM THAT HAS TO BE LOOKED AT? BECAUSE IT'S NOT JUST ASKING NASSAU COUNTY TO GIVE YOU, EVERYBODY THAT'S ON FREE LUNCH OR WHATEVER THE CASE MAY BE, BUT IT'S ALSO THE POSSIBILITY OF HOW WE WANT TO SHOW THAT THEY'RE NOT BEING LOOKED AT IS THAT THEY COULD NOT AFFORD IT. THAT'S A TOUCHY SITUATION WITH A LOT OF PEOPLE. GO AHEAD, AT LEAST. >> WHEN YOU GO TO THE PET STORE, THERE'S A SIGN THAT SAYS, WOULD YOU LIKE TO DONATE FIVE DOLLARS FOR FEEDING PETS? IF THERE IS A SIMILAR SIGN, WOULD YOU LIKE TO SPONSOR A DUTY FAMILY OR SOMEONE WHO CAN'T PAY? IF IT'S $125 OR WHATEVER THEY CAN ROUND UP FOR THEY CAN SAY, I KEEP THE CHANGE. >> CAN WE MAKE A MOTION TO ACCEPT THE FEES? >> I THINK IF I COULD JUST GET A CONSENSUS THROUGHOUT THE GROUP THAT YOU ARE FINE WITH THAT. I THINK THAT'S IMPORTANT. WHEN IT IS PRESENTED, I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT FOR YOU GUYS TO REVIEW THESE FEES BEFORE THEY COME. I DO BELIEVE I HAVE THE CONSENSUS OF THE GROUP FROM READING THE ROOM. >> WE DON'T NEED A MOTION. >> NO. >> YOU DON'T NEED A MOTION. THANK YOU. THANK SCOTT, EVERYBODY. THANK YOU. WELL DONE. >> THANK YOU. MOVING ON TO THE NEXT THING. [7. STAFF REPORT] I JUST WANTED TO TAKE A QUICK SECOND. I'M GOING TO INTRODUCE GLENN AKRAMOV. HE'S THE NEW PROJECT MANAGER THROUGH THE CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE. I AM REALLY HAPPY THAT HE'S HERE. OUR STAFF IS REALLY HAPPY THAT HE'S HERE. HE'S GOING TO HELP US THROUGH SOME HIGH LEVEL PROJECTS, A LOT OF HISTORY IN THAT. WITH THAT BEING SAID, HE'S GOING TO GO THROUGH A FEW PART PROJECTS THAT ARE GOING TO BE ON THE FOREFRONT HERE AND GIVE YOU GUYS AN UPDATE OF WHERE WE ARE. BUT WITH THAT, GLENN, IF YOU DON'T MIND. THANKS FOR BEING HERE. >> THANK YOU. APPRECIATE IT. I'M GOING TO RUN THROUGH THE YBOR. SOME OF YOU HAVE ALREADY SEEN IT. THE PRESENTATION THAT I DID TO COMMISSION WAS IT LAST WEEK? THINGS ARE RUNNING TOGETHER. BUT ONE OF THE QUESTIONS THAT CAME UP IS, WHY DID WE GO TO COMMISSION FIRST? I THINK IT'S FAIR THAT I ANSWER THAT BEFORE I GET STARTED. FOUR MAIN REASONS THAT I DID THAT. ONE IS THAT WE NEED THE TWO POLITICAL GROUPS TO TALK TOGETHER TO DO ANY OF THE THREE OPTIONS. I WANTED TO MAKE SURE THEY STARTED THAT CONVERSATION SOON. BOTH OF US ARE IN BUDGET PROCESS. WE WANT TO MAKE SURE IF THERE'S ANY CONVERSATION THAT NEEDS TO BE HAPPENED AT THE HIGH LEVEL. STAFF HAS ALREADY TALKED, BUT WHEN IT COMES DOWN TO VOTING, WHAT HOW THINGS HAPPEN? IT'S THE POLITICAL ISSUE. ALSO, I NEEDED TO BE ABLE TO SPEND SOME MONEY ON AN APPRAISAL SO I COULD GET THE TOTAL COST OF THE SITE. I'LL RUN THROUGH SOME PRELIMINARY COSTS, BUT WE DON'T HAVE A FINAL COST OF WHAT IT'S GOING TO TAKE TO GET YBOR DONE AT THAT LEVEL. THEN ONE THINGS THEY ASK FOR THAT I THINK IS IMPORTANT IS THE DEMOGRAPHICS, WHO USES THE FIELD, HOW DOES THAT WORK? WHO ARE WE REALLY SERVING IN WITH THAT FIELD OR ANY FIELD. YOU MENTIONED EARLIER ABOUT GETTING THE STATISTICS, AND THAT'S AN IMPORTANT PART OF THAT PROCESS. THAT'S WHY I WENT THERE FIRST. WHEN WE COME BACK TO TALK ABOUT THE FINAL OPTIONS AND THINGS THAT WE'RE GOING TO DO AND DESIGN OPTIONS, WE'LL COME HERE FIRST. BUT I WANTED YOU TO UNDERSTAND WHY WE DID THAT. YOU CAN GO. THERE WE ARE. I'M GOING TO GO THROUGH THIS AGENDA REAL QUICK. SOME OF YOU HEARD IT. THERE'S BEEN A STORY OUT THERE ON IT, AT LEAST ONE, MAYBE TWO IN THE PRESS, IF YOU WANT TO TAKE A LOOK. BUT WE WANT TO TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE SITE HISTORY AND GET INTO THE DETAILS ABOUT PROS AND CONS OF THE THREE OPTIONS. WE PUT THREE OPTIONS TOGETHER. A LOT OF TIMES YOU PUT A FOURTH OPTION, WHICH IS A NO ACTION OPTION. THAT'S NOT AN OPTION IN THIS CASE. WE HAVE TO TAKE ACTION OF SOME SORT, SO WE CAN MOVE TO THE NEXT SLIDE. THIS IS WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE TODAY FROM THERE. I DID POINT OUT. I WANT TO MAKE SURE YOU ARE AWARE UP TO THE NORTH IS WHERE WE DO OVERFLOW PARKING CURRENTLY. THAT'S LIKELY TO GO AWAY WITH DEVELOPMENT. ALL YOU SEE IS THE BAILEY ROAD PARKING THERE WOULD BE ALL THAT WOULD BE LEFT. [00:55:04] WE HAVE TO PLAN FOR THAT. THIS IS CURRENTLY THE SITE WE HAVE. WE'RE LOOKING AT WHERE WE PUT A RETENTION POND. BECAUSE ANYONE WHO'S BEEN OUT THERE WHEN IT RAINS, THE WHOLE PLACE IS DOESN'T DO WELL. WHATEVER WE DO, WE NEED TO MAKE SURE IT FUNCTIONS DURING THE WET SEASON. WE CAN GO THE NEXT SLIDE. YOU CAN FLIP THROUGH ALL THESE QUICK. I DIDN'T INTENTIONALLY PUT IT IN THAT WAY. [LAUGHTER] THAT'S THAT WAY. WHEN YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE HISTORY, IN 1947, THIS SITE WAS PART OF THE AIRPORT PIECE THAT THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT GAVE US AFTER WORLD WAR II. NONE OF THOSE UNDERLYING REQUIREMENTS HAVE GONE AWAY SINCE 1947. WE IGNORED THEM, AND THE FAA IGNORED THEM UNTIL RECENTLY, BUT THEY'VE ALWAYS BEEN THERE. THAT'S THE UNDERLYING LAND REQUIREMENTS. IN '84, WE GOT A GRANT, AND WE BUILT SOME SOFTBALL FIELDS. IF YOU LOOK AT THE GRANT, $38,000, AND I KNOW I'M SURE THE CITY HAD A MATCH. IF IT WAS 50% MATCH, THOSE FOUR FIELDS THAT YOU LOOKED AT BEFORE WERE BUILT FOR ABOUT $80,000. TODAY, YOU CAN'T BUILD TWO DUGOUTS FOR THAT AMOUNT. IT'S PRETTY AMAZING. THEN IN AUGUST OF 2000, WE GOT A GRANT AND PUT THE SOCCER FIELDS IN. THE THE 112,000 THAT WE GOT THERE, WE ONLY USED ABOUT 45,000 TO PUT THE SOCCER FIELDS IN, AND THE REST OF IT REMAINED UNEXPENDED AND WENT BACK. >> WENT BACK TO WHO FUNDED IT? YEAH. I WENT BACK WHERE? >> IT WENT BACK TO THE STATE WHO FUNDED IT. WE JUST DIDN'T EXPEND THOSE FUNDS. EVENTUALLY THAT GRANT EXPIRED AND THEY TOOK THEM BACK. BUT AGAIN, SOCCER FIELDS FOR THAT AMOUNT IS PRETTY AMAZING. THEN IN '24, SIGNED THE ILA FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEND 1.7 MILLION FROM THE COUNTY TO REHAB THESE FIELDS. THAT'S THE HISTORY OF HOW THINGS HAVE COME TO BE AND WHAT BRINGS US TO THIS POINT. THAT IS NOT TO EXCEED, AND IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE A MATCHING FUNDS, THE 1.7. WE HAVE TO PUT IN AT LEAST 1.7 OF THE CITY'S MONEY. >> CAN WE JUST CLARIFY THAT TOO FOR PEOPLE WHO WERE NOT HERE WHEN THIS HAPPENED? THAT NUMBER 1.8 CAME FROM, I BELIEVE THAT THAT'S WHAT IT WAS GOING TO COST US TO PURCHASE THE FIELD. THE LAND. WE HAVE TO BUY EVEN THOUGH THE CITY OWNS THAT, IT'S PART OF THE AIRPORT, FAA REQUIRES THAT WE WOULD HAVE TO PURCHASE THE LAND BACK OURSELVES. THAT NUMBER IS NOT ARBITRARY. I THOUGHT THEN IT WAS $1.8 MILLION THAT WE WOULD HAVE TO PAY FOR THE PROPERTY, THE CITY. THEN WE WERE GOING TO BE ABLE TO GET THE 1.7 MILLION FROM THE COUNTY TO BUILD IT OUT BECAUSE ONLY THE HALF THAT WE'RE PUTTING. 1.7 IS ONLY HALF OF WHAT THAT IS SUPPOSED TO COST. IF I RECALL, WE WERE GOING TO BE ABLE AND WE HAVE EARMARKS IMPACT FEE MONEY FOR THE 1.8, IS THAT. >> WHICH WE WILL TALK ABOUT. JUST A MINUTE. WE'LL TALK ABOUT THAT IN JUST A SECOND. >> JUST TO BE CLEAR THAT IT'S NOT 1.7. IT'S 3.6. >> THAT WAS THE PROJECTED COST TWO YEARS AGO. THAT WAS BASED ON THE VALUATION OF THE PROPERTY AT A LITTLE SMALLER AMOUNT, IT WAS 12 ACRES. WE'RE GOING TO NEED CLOSER TO 15. THAT NUMBER WAS BASED ON THAT. WHY NOW? THE PROPERTY HAS TO BE USED FOR AERONAUTICAL USE. IT HAS TO BE OPEN FOR THAT. THAT'S WHY WE HAVE TO GO TO PURCHASE. THAT'S WHY WE HAVE TO BUY IT. BECAUSE IF IT STAYS IN THE AIRPORT REALM, THEN AERONAUTICAL USE HAS TO BE AN OPTION FOR IT. REALLY, RIGHT NOW, THAT'S NOT TRUE. THERE'S A HANGAR CONSTRUCTION GRANT THAT WAS PUT FOR WHERE THE SOCCER FIELDS ARE AT THIS POINT. THAT GRANT IS DUE IN '27. THEN THE FIELDS NEED TO BE REHABED. THEY'RE OLD. [01:00:01] THEY'RE IN POOR CONDITION. THEY'VE KIND OF AGED OUT. AND SOME OF THE ONE OF THE THINGS THAT HAPPENS IN A FIELD, IS THAT WHEN IT AGES OUT, ITS DRAINAGE DOESN'T WORK WELL. THESE FIELDS HAD A HARD TIME TO BEGIN WITH. I MENTIONED THE REDUCTION IN PARKING, AND THEN THE COUNTY FUNDS, THAT 1.7 MILLION THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, WE NEED TO EXPEND OR GET THE FUNDS FROM THEM BY SEPTEMBER OF 2027. THAT'S PART OF THE AGREEMENT. THE CLOCK'S TICKING. >> WE DID A NUMBER OF THINGS WITH THIS. THE PROCESS THAT STARTED BEFORE I GOT HERE IS THAT THE FAA MANAGER AT THE AIRPORT IS IN CONSTANT CONTACT WITH THE FAA, AND WE'VE BEEN HAVING CONVERSATIONS ABOUT THIS FOR QUITE A WHILE. ALSO FLORIDA DEP, WHICH IS PART OF THE GRANT PROCESS, BECAUSE THAT'S SOMETHING I DIDN'T MENTION YET, BUT THE GRANTS HAVE REQUIREMENTS TO CONTINUE FOR THE USE. WHAT THEY COULD DO IF THEY CHOSE TO, EVEN THOUGH ONE OF THE GRANTS IS 40 SOME YEARS OLD AND THE OTHER ONE'S 25, THEY COULD ASK US TO PAY BACK THE GRANTS BECAUSE WE'RE NOT MEETING THEIR REQUIREMENT. THE CHALLENGE IS WE HAVE TWO OVERLAYS OF REQUIREMENTS THAT CONFLICT WITH EACH OTHER. WE NEED TO COME UP WITH A RESOLUTION ON THAT. WE'RE WORKING WITH THE GRANTING AGENCIES, BUT WE DID TALK TO THE DEP AND WE'VE GOT AN IDEA OF WHAT WE NEED TO DO TO MEET THAT REQUIREMENT. WE DID MEET WITH NASSAU COUNTY IN TWO DIFFERENT REALMS. ONE WAS, WE MET WITH THEIR LEADERSHIP AND TALKED ABOUT THESE OPTIONS IN A GENERAL TERMS, AND WOULD THEY BE OPEN TO IT? THEY WERE OPEN TO HELP. HOWEVER, WE'RE ASKING TO WORK WITH THEM, THEY'RE PRETTY OPEN TO THE CONVERSATION. THEN OUR PARKS DIRECTOR WENT AND DID A TOUR WITH THEIR FUTURE SITES, OF WHICH THEY HAVE AT LEAST THREE SITES UNDER CONSTRUCTION, MEANT TO OPEN IN '26, SO THEY HAVE A LOT OF CAPACITY, WHICH WE'LL TALK ABOUT IN A SECOND. A LOT OF CAPACITY COMING. THEN WE DID MEET WITH THE SOCCER GROUP AS WELL BEFORE WE MADE ANY PRESENTATION, WE WANTED TO UNDERSTAND WHAT THEIR ISSUES WERE. THEY CAME AND SPOKE. WE INVITED THEM. WE WANTED THEM TO SHARE THEIR OPINIONS ON WHATEVER THE ISSUES ARE SO THAT WE CAN SUPPORT THEM. WHAT WE HAD GENERALLY TALKED ABOUT IS WHAT THEY SHARED IN THEIR PUBLIC COMMENT. I DIDN'T LIST ALL THE OPTIONS HERE, BUT I'M GOING TO GO THROUGH THEM REALLY QUICKLY. THE FIRST OPTION IS ALWAYS THE ONE TO STAY WHERE WE ARE. WE HAVE COMPLETED SOME PROJECT WORK ALREADY AND SOME DESIGN WORK ON THE SITE. IT'S NOT FINISHED, BUT WE'RE GETTING CLOSE. WE PAUSED IT WHILE WE HAD THIS CONVERSATION. ONE OF THE PROS IS THAT THE SITE'S FAMILIAR. WE KNOW THE COMMUNITY IS USED TO GOING THERE. AMELIA SOCCER USES IT. THEY'RE COMFORTABLE THERE. THE STATE AND FEDERAL GRANT COMPLIANCE IS NOT AN ISSUE BECAUSE WE WOULDN'T HAVE TO PAY IT BACK IF WE STAYED ON SITE. WE WOULD USE THE $1.7 MILLION THE NASSAU COUNTY PER THE INTERLOCAL, AND THAT GOES A LONG WAY TO HELPING THE FIELDS HAPPEN. SOME CONS. THE COST IS HIGH. WE'RE ESTIMATING $3.6 MILLION, $3.5 MILLION IS LOW. WE NEED TO DO ANOTHER APPRAISAL, WHICH GOT THE GO AHEAD TO DO, SO WE'RE STARTING THAT PROCESS. THEN WE NEED TO FINISH THE DESIGN ENOUGH TO KNOW WHERE THE RETENTION POND IS GOING TO GO. ONE OF THE CHALLENGES THERE IS THAT THERE'S SOME ENVIRONMENTAL ISSUES THERE. WE'RE DOING AN ENVIRONMENTAL STUDY THROUGH THE FAA AS PART OF THEIR REQUIREMENTS AND WE KNOW WE HAVE FOUND SOME CHALLENGES THERE IN THE PAST, SO WE'RE NOT SURE WHAT THAT MEANS. IF IT'S NOT GOOD, THEN WE HAVE TO CLEAN UP THE SITE THAT JUST ADDS MORE TO THE COST. THE DRAINAGE, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO RAISE THE FIELD, ALMOST ABOUT 9 INCHES. THE ENTIRE WHERE THE BASEBALL FIELDS WILL GO UP AT LEAST 9 INCHES TO MAKE THE DRAINAGE WORK. THAT'S ABOUT 16,000 CUBIC YARDS OF FILL, AND THAT'S EXPENSIVE. [01:05:04] WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO MOVE STUFF, BUT THAT'S THE CHALLENGE. IT WAS MENTIONED EARLIER ABOUT OPERATIONAL COSTS. THERE IS A BELIEF SOMETIMES IN COMMUNITIES THAT WHEN YOU BUILD SOMETHING NEW, THE OPERATIONAL COSTS GO DOWN. THEY DON'T. THEY GO UP BECAUSE YOU HAVE TO MAINTAIN NEW SYSTEMS WITH NEW TECHNOLOGIES, AND YOU ALSO NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT ASSET LASTS. AS AN EXAMPLE, WE HAVE SOCCER FIELDS THAT ARE AGING OUT AT 25 YEARS. THAT'S ON THE SHORTER END OF THEIR EXPECTED LIFE. THEY SHOULD BE LASTING 30-40. WE'RE GETTING 25. SOME OF IT'S DESIGN, SOME OF IT'S TECHNOLOGY, BUT SOME OF IT IS THE MAINTENANCE PRACTICES THAT WE NEED TO GET BETTER AT. IF WE DIDN'T DO THEM AT THE BEGINNING, IT JUST ADDS TO IT. THE SECOND OPTION IS TO PARTNER WITH THE COUNTY IN A DIFFERENT WAY THAN WHAT WE PROJECTED. THAT IS TO BASICALLY REVERSE THE FLOW OF THE MONEY A LITTLE BIT, AND THAT MEANS LIKELY AN OFF ISLAND PIECE, WHICH I TALKED ABOUT JUST BRIEFLY WHEN I TALKED ABOUT THE OPPORTUNITIES THAT THE COUNTY HAS. THEY DEFINITELY HAVE THE YULEE SPORTS COMPLEX, WHICH IS SOMETHING THAT THEY'RE EXPANDING WITH THREE LIT RECTANGLE FIELDS THAT ARE SCHEDULED TO BE OPEN SUMMER OR FALL OF '26. THEY HAVE ROOM TO EXPAND SO THAT'S ONE OF THE AREAS THAT WE HAVE PRELIMINARY TALKED ABOUT WHERE WE COULD ADD EVEN MORE FIELDS. WE COULD TAKE OUR THREE FIELDS OVER THERE. THERE'S ALSO A COUPLE OF OTHERS, WESTSIDE REGIONAL AND LIBERTY COVE ARE ALL ADDING SOME FIELDS. ALL OF THEM ARE SUPPOSED TO BE AVAILABLE IN '26 SOMETIME. THEY'RE ADDING INVENTORY, AND WE COULD JUMP IN ON THAT. SOME PROS IN THERE. IT MAY BE THE FASTEST OPTION BECAUSE THEY'RE ALREADY IN THE PLANNING PROCESS, SO WE COULD ADD FIELDS EARLIER. THAT WOULD HELP US MEET ALL OF OUR 27 REQUIREMENTS. PARKING AND OTHER AMENITIES ARE ALREADY PLANNED AND ALREADY IN PLACE THERE. IT WOULD BE A LOWER COST TO THE CITY AND WE CAN USE IMPACT FEES. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I DIDN'T BRING UP FROM THE OTHER THING IS THAT BECAUSE WE'RE NOT ADDING NEW FIELDS AT YBOR, IT IS NOT ELIGIBLE FOR IMPACT FEES. AT THE COMMISSION, I HAD MENTIONED THAT WE WERE STILL LOOKING AT IT, BUT THAT'S BEEN VERIFIED THAT WE CAN'T USE IMPACT FEES UNLESS WE EXPAND TO ADD NEW RESOURCES. IF WE WERE GOING TO ADD THREE NEW FIELDS AT YBOR AND REDID THE WHOLE THING, WE COULD DO IT. >> ISN'T THAT THE POINT OF TAKING THE SOCCER FIELDS AND MOVING THE FIELDS THAT MADE IT NEW? >> NO. IT DOESN'T QUALIFY WHEN WE DID THE RESEARCH. THAT'S A DIMINISHING OF THE SITE. THE SOCCER FIELDS ARE NEW, BUT IT'S REDOING THE SITE AND REDUCING YOUR OVERALL RECREATION IMPACT. >> ON THE PROCEED AS PLANNED SITUATION, IF WE WERE GOING TO USE IMPACT FEES BECAUSE THAT WAS MY UNDERSTANDING ALL ALONG IS THAT'S WHAT WE WERE USING THE IMPACT FEES, WE CAN'T DO THAT AT YBOR CURRENTLY. >> CORRECT. >> WE WOULD HAVE TO FUND THAT OUT OF THE GENERAL FUND TO PURCHASE THAT PROPERTY. WHAT IS OUR TIME LIMIT? BECAUSE ISN'T THE IMPACT FEES EXPIRING PRETTY SOON? >> YES. '26, ISN'T IT? >> YES. >> NOT FEES. >> WHAT'S THE QUESTION? >> THE IMPACT FEES THAT WE WERE GOING TO USE. LET'S JUST SAY WE'RE GOING WITH THE ORIGINAL PLAN AND THE IMPACT FEES. IF NOW WE CAN'T USE THE IMPACT FEES, THEN THAT GOES BACK INTO THE POT OF IMPACT FEES. WE DON'T HAVE ANY PROJECTS PLANNED FOR THAT CURRENTLY, BUT DON'T WE HAVE TO USE THAT MONEY BY A CERTAIN TIME? >> I DON'T KNOW THE EXACT DATE, BUT WE WOULD NOT LOSE THAT THAT $1.7 MILLION OR $2 MILLION OF IMPACT FEES, IT WOULD GO BACK INTO THE POT. THERE IS A DEADLINE, BUT I DON'T THINK THAT WE ARE NEAR THAT DEADLINE AT THIS POINT. I DON'T THINK WE WERE GOING TO LOSE THOSE IMPACT FEES. IT WOULD JUST GO BACK INTO THE FUND THAT WOULD HAVE TO BE USED FOR OTHER ITEMS. >> I GUESS I WOULD JUST POINT OUT THAT WE PROBABLY DO NEED TO IDENTIFY WHAT THAT TIMELINE IS FOR THE EXPIRATION OF THAT DOLLARS, [01:10:01] BECAUSE EVEN IF WE'RE GOING SOMEWHERE ELSE TO USE IT AND USE IT AS IMPACT FEES, OBVIOUSLY, THINGS DO NOT MOVE QUICKLY. >> THEY HAVE SOME CHALLENGES. BUT WHEN I TALK A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT THE OTHER PROJECTS, I THINK WE'LL BE ABLE TO UTILIZE THAT MONEY FAIRLY QUICKLY WITH OTHER THINGS WE HAVE IN THE QUEUE. I'M JUST GOT TO FIND OUT WHERE WE'RE AT. WE CAN USE IMPACT FEES OUTSIDE OF THE CITY, WHICH SOUNDS WEIRD, I KNOW, BUT THAT'S A REQUIREMENT, OR THAT'S A POSSIBILITY PER SETTING UP AN AGREEMENT TO MAKE SURE WE ADD RESOURCES TO OUR INVENTORY. AGAIN, THAT'S AN INTERLOCAL AND SOME OTHER PIECES THAT WE WOULD HAVE TO PUT IN PLACE. SOME OF THE CONS IN PARTNERING WITH THE COUNTY, WELL, THE $1.7 MILLION STAYS WITH THEM. WE DON'T TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THAT, WHICH IS DEFINITELY A CON. TIMELINES FOR UPDATING THE INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT, WHICH IN CONVERSATIONS WITH THEM IS NOT THAT BIG OF AN ISSUE, BUT RUNNING ANYTHING THROUGH THE POLITICAL VOTE PROCESSES TAKES TIME. THE FACILITIES ARE OFF ISLAND. THAT'S DEFINITELY A CON. WE WOULD BE MOVING AT LEAST TEMPORARILY SOME OF THESE FACILITIES OFF ISLAND. THEN CREATING SIMILAR OPERATIONAL AGREEMENTS WITH THE END USERS THAT WE HAVE. AMELIA ISLAND YOUTH SOCCER IS ONE OF THEM. WE WORK REALLY CLOSELY WITH THEM, AND WE WOULDN'T HAVE AS MUCH CONTROL OVER THAT, SO HOW DO WE HELP THEM THROUGH THE COUNTY PROCESS AS PART OF THE CONS. THEN THE THIRD ONE IS TO FIND ANOTHER SITE WITHIN THE CITY. THAT IS SOMETHING THAT COULD BE VETTED IN THE UPCOMING MASTER PLANNING PROCESS. BUT THAT'S TIMELY. SOME PROS OF THAT, WE CAN FULLY VET ALL THE COSTS. IT'LL BE FULLY IMPACT FEE ELIGIBLE. WE WOULD HANDLE ISSUES OF PARKING AND OTHER AMENITIES AND PLAN THEM RIGHT FROM THE BEGINNING. THEN SOME OF THE CONS ARE THAT TIMELINES LONG. TO BUILD A BUILDING IT TAKES FIVE YEARS FROM THE MINUTE YOU START DESIGNING TO THE DAY YOU WALK IN THE DOOR WITH A FIELD THAT WOULD BE PROBABLY THREE. THE CLOCKS ARE TICKING ON ALL OF THIS. THEN ALL OF THE SITES THAT WE HAVE WOULD HAVE COMMUNITY CONCERNS FOR VARIOUS REASONS. WE WOULD HAVE TO WORK OUR WAY THROUGH THAT. THEY'RE NOT VETTED FOR VIABILITY. THERE'S NO SITE IN THE CITY OTHER THAN ONES WE'RE USING FOR THIS THAT'S FULLY VETTED FOR THAT USE SO WE WOULD HAVE TO GO THROUGH THAT PROCESS. THEN THERE'S NO LONG TERM PLAN YET THAT EXISTS CITYWIDE. THOSE ARE THE PROS AND CONS. I WANTED TO BRING UP THE PARKS, RECREATION AND OPEN SPACE PLAN, WHICH IS THE PROCESS WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THAT SO FAR IS FUNDED IN THE BUDGET. WE WOULD BE ABLE TO GO THROUGH AND START THAT PROCESS. I DON'T KNOW WHEN SCOTT'S PLANNING TO DO IT, BUT WE'RE GOING TO DO THAT ONE TOGETHER. THEN MLK PROJECT TO YOUR POINT, IT IS SCHEDULED, AND SO WE BUILD IT AS IT'S DESIGNED, IT WOULD BE IMPACT FEE ELIGIBLE, SO WE CAN BE USING SOME OF THE FUNDS THERE. THEN THE TIMELINE 2027 IS A CRITICAL YEAR BECAUSE EVERYTHING COMES TOGETHER IN '27. ALL OF OUR AGREEMENTS ARE DUE ALL OF THE REQUIREMENTS. ONE THING THAT I WANT TO MAKE SURE I MENTIONED IS THAT REGARDLESS OF WHETHER WE BUY THE PROPERTY OR NOT, WE SHOULD BE PAYING A LEASE PAYMENT RIGHT NOW. THAT IS BASED ON THE VALUE OF THE PROPERTY. AS PART OF THE APPRAISAL, I WILL HAVE THEM GIVE US AN ESTIMATED LEASE PAYMENT, AND IT'S GOING TO BE QUITE BIG. WE NEED TO WORK OUR WAY BECAUSE FAA REQUIRES THAT. >> THE LEASE PAYMENT FOR NOW? LIKE CURRENTLY? WE'VE NOT BEEN PAYING IT FOR HOW LONG OR IS IT? >> WE SHOULD HAVE BEEN PAYING IT FROM THE BEGINNING, OR NOT. >> BEGINNING OF WHAT? >> WHEN WE STARTED USING THE PROPERTY, 1986. >> IS ANY OF THAT RETROACTIVE? >> NO. >> IT WOULD JUST BE A POINT IN TIME GOING FORWARD? >> RIGHT. FAA HAS BEEN COOPERATIVE WITH THAT, BUT THEY'RE WANTING IF WE WERE GOING TO STAY THERE LONG TERM, AND DIDN'T BUY THE PROPERTY, WE'D HAVE TO DO LEASE. >> WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT FAA, WHO SPECIFICALLY ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT? THAT'S A HUGE ORGANIZATION BASED IN WASHINGTON. I UNDERSTAND HOW THIS ALL STARTED. >> THEY HAVE JURISDICTION OVER ALL THE AIRPORTS AND SO WHEN WE WORK WITH THEM, [01:15:09] AND WE HAVE TO WORK WITH THEM TO MANAGE THE AIRPORT. WE ALSO ACCEPT A LOT OF GRANT MONEY TO OPERATE OUR AIRPORT. BECAUSE WE DO, THEY TAKE ADVANTAGE. THEY MAKE SURE THAT THEIR JURISDICTIONAL BOUNDARIES AND THEIR REQUIREMENTS ARE MET. >> BUT WHY ARE THESE FIELDS NOT IN COMPLIANCE, WHEREAS THE GOLF COURSES ARE? >> OUR GOLF COURSE IS NOT ON LEASE PROPERTY. >> EMILY RIVER IS. >> EMILY RIVER IS. THEY PAY A LEASE. >> THE GOLF COURSE WAS AIRPORT PROPERTY THAT WAS DEEDED OVER TO THE CITY FOR RECREATION IN THAT GOLF COURSE. I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY ALL OF A SUDDEN THEY'RE COMING AT THESE FIELDS. >> OUR GOLF COURSE IS NO LONGER PART OF THE AIRPORT. THE AMELIA ISLAND IS, BUT IT PAYS A LEASE. THEIR LEASE, IT'S OVER $600,000 A YEAR THAT THEY PAY. THE FAA SAYS WE SHOULD RENEGOTIATE THAT, BUT THAT'S ANOTHER CONVERSATION FOR ANOTHER DAY. >> IT'S REALLY COMING TO A HEAD NOW BECAUSE THERE ARE MORE PEOPLE USING THE AIRPORT AND PEOPLE WHO DESIRE TO HAVE HANGERS OUT THERE, AND THE REQUIREMENTS ARE THAT AVIATION USE GETS TOP PRIORITY OVER ANYTHING ELSE. THEY COULD JUST SAY, TOO BAD, SO SAD. WE'RE USING THAT FOR HANGERS. BUT PART OF THIS NEGOTIATION WHEN THIS FIRST STARTED WAS THAT, HEY, WE REACHED OUT AND ASKED, WOULD THEY BE WILLING TO DO THIS? BUT, YES, WE HAVE TO BUY IT AT FAIR MARKET VALUE, WHICH WHEN THIS STARTED TWO YEARS AGO, THE FAIR MARKET VALUE APPRAISAL WE GOT WAS $1.8 MILLION. NOW I WOULD IMAGINE IT IS SIGNIFICANTLY MORE. >> YES. >> WE'LL TALK LATER. >> AS WE GO THROUGH, I'M WILLING TO MEET WITH ANY OF YOU TO WALK THROUGH ANY OF IT. >> PLAN? >> YEAH. >> DOES THE CONTRACT BECOME NULL AND VOID IF EPA GOES IN THERE AND THEY FIND THAT THERE'S GASES AND ALL THE OTHER STUFF AND JUNK UNDERNEATH THE LAND? >> I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE IMPLICATIONS OF THAT WILL BE. WE WE'RE STILL RESEARCHING WHAT THAT WOULD REALLY MEAN AND WHAT WOULD HAPPEN IN ANY INSTANCE. >> I GUESS WHAT WOULD BE THE FIRST STEP IS TO FIND OUT IF EPA FOUND ANY PROBLEMS WITH THE LAND. SECOND OF ALL, THAT INFORMATION WILL BE SHARED WITH EVERYBODY FROM THE CITY MANAGER UP AND THAT'S A DECISION THEY CAN MAKE AT THAT LEVEL. BUT WITH THAT BEING SAID, WELL, WE NEED A CONTINGENCY PLAN IF EPA GOES IN THERE AND SAYS, THIS IS WHAT IT'S GOING TO COST TO REMEDIATE THE LAND. ARE YOU STILL INTERESTED? >> I THINK THAT'S WHY WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE WE SPELLED OUT MULTIPLE OPTIONS IN THIS PROCESS SO THAT WE CAN PIVOT WHEREVER WE NEED TO AS WE MOVE FORWARD. >> ABSOLUTELY. >> LAST A COUPLE OF THINGS I HAVE. ONE IS THE COMP PLAN HAS REQUIREMENTS, AND ONE OF THEM IS FIRST CLASS PARKS, WHICH IS AWESOME, BUT THIS I THINK AT THIS POINT DOESN'T MEET THAT QUALIFICATION. WE NEED TO IMPROVE DESIGN STANDARDS AND MAINTENANCE, WHICH REGARDLESS, WE WOULD DO THAT AS PART OF ANY CONSTRUCTION THERE AND ANY PLACE, SO WE WOULD MEET ALL THOSE REQUIREMENTS. WE NEED TO MAINTAIN 12 ACRES PER 1,000 RESIDENTS, WE'RE WELL OVER THAT. NO MATTER WHAT OPTION WE CHOSE, WE WOULD STILL MEET THAT REQUIREMENT. THEN THERE'S NO NET LOSS OF FACILITIES, WHICH IS SOMETHING THAT I DON'T BELIEVE WE WOULD BASED ON WHAT WE'VE ADDED, BUT THAT'S SOMETHING WE WILL MAKE SURE THAT WE COMPLY WITH AS WE GO THROUGH THIS PROCESS. THE LAST THING WE HAD IS WE DID SOME QUESTIONS THAT WE NEED TO ANSWER, AND THE APPRAISAL WILL HELP WITH THE COST. WE WILL BE WORKING ON A LEASE RATE, AND WE ARE ALREADY TRYING TO WORK WITH ALL OF THE GRANTING AGENCIES TO SEE WHAT [01:20:01] THE PAYMENT WOULD BE IF THERE WOULD BE ONE OR IF THEY'LL WAIVE THOSE REQUIREMENTS. THAT'S WHERE WE ARE. AGAIN, 2027 IS A BIG YEAR FOR US, WHICH IS WHY WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IT IN '25 TO TRY TO GET AHEAD OF THIS PROCESS, WHICH IS ONE OF THE REASONS WHY I JUMPED IN ON IT AS ONE OF MY FIRST PRIORITIES AS I CAME IN AS A PROJECT MANAGER. LIKE I SAID, I'D BE GLAD TO MEET WITH YOU INDIVIDUALLY TO TALK MORE ABOUT THE DETAILS AND THAT SORT OF THING, AS WE HAVE QUESTIONS. I WANTED TO GIVE YOU A QUICK UPDATE ON A COUPLE OF OTHER PROJECTS. WE MENTIONED MLK. WE'RE IN DESIGN OF THAT, AND WE HAVE MONEY IN THE NEXT YEAR TO DO SOME CONSTRUCTION. WE'RE WORKING OUT SOME FINAL DETAILS ON THE DESIGN AND WORKING WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD TO MAKE SURE WE'RE WORKING WITH THEM IN A PRODUCTIVE WAY. THE WATERFRONT PARK, THERE'S SOME QUESTIONS EARLIER ABOUT THAT. THAT IS ON SCHEDULE AND WITHIN BUDGET. THE SCHEDULE WAS A LITTLE LONGER THAN I WOULD LIKE TO TAKE WITH A PROJECT LIKE THIS. BUT IT RUNS THROUGH FEBRUARY. YOU CAN SEE THE BUILDINGS ARE GOING UP NOW. WE'LL BE PLANTING TREES AND DOING SOME OF THE FINAL STUFF IN OCTOBER. THE LIGHTING IS THE BIG ISSUE, GETTING THE LIGHTING POLES AND ALL THAT IN. THEY'VE BEEN ORDERED, THEY HAVE A LONG LEAD TIME. THAT'S REALLY THE END OF THE PROJECT, IS THAT AND DOING SOME FINAL CONCRETE WORK AND ALL THE VEGETATION WORK. WE FEEL LIKE IT'S GOING TO BE DONE BY THE FEBRUARY END OF SCHEDULE, BUT IT MAY BE DONE A TICK EARLIER THAN THAT. >> WHAT'S THE FINAL UPDATE ON THE PLAYGROUND EQUIPMENT THERE OR IS THAT DEFINITELY ON HOLD? I FORGET WHERE WE WERE. >> WE'RE LOOKING AT MULTIPLE OPTIONS. THERE WERE A COUPLE OF OPTIONS THAT WERE PUT FORTH, AND THERE WAS A LOT OF DISCUSSION AROUND IT. I'VE BEEN WORKING WITH OUR DOWNTOWN MANAGER TO COME UP WITH WHAT THE FINAL OPTIONS WILL BE AND THEN GETTING THEM CHOSEN BECAUSE WE HAVE A LIMITED SPACE. THE FOCUS WAS NOT SO MUCH ON A PLAY GROUND BUT A PLAY AREA, AND THAT'S NUANCED, AND SO WE'RE LOOKING AT WHAT WOULD GO IN THERE AND BE THE MOST EFFECTIVE FOR HOW THE SITE'S SUPPOSED TO FUNCTION. >> IS THAT GOING TO COME BACK BEFORE US? >> IT COULD. I DON'T KNOW WHERE WE ARE WITH THAT. >> THE LAST I HEARD IS THAT ONE OF THE MAIN THINGS THAT WE WERE LOOKING AT WAS SOMETHING VERY SIMILAR TO THE CLIMBING STRUCTURE THAT WAS AT EGAN'S CREEK PARK. I BELIEVE AND I HAVE TO REMEMBER EXACTLY HOW WE LEFT IT, BUT LISA WAS LOOKING AT IMPLEMENTING THAT CLIMBING STRUCTURE JUST SIMILAR TO THAT. THAT WOULD FIT WITHIN THAT FOOTPRINT. >> WITH THE EXISTING CIRCULAR FOOTPRINT THAT ARE BEING EXPANDED. >> THAT IS CORRECT. WITHIN THE EXISTING FOOTPRINT BECAUSE OF BUDGET CONSTRAINTS. >> WE ARE ALSO DOING TONS OF PROJECTS OUTSIDE OF PARKS THAT ARE OUT THERE. WE JUST FINISHED OUR 2026 LISTS, WHICH IS PART OF THE BUDGET PROCESS. WE'LL BE PROVIDING A DETAILED UPDATE OF THAT WITH THE COMMISSION DURING THE BUDGET PROCESS STARTING ON THE 19TH, I BELIEVE. SINCE I HAD THE OPPORTUNITY, I WANT TO TALK ABOUT THE PROJECT GROUP. I'M THE ONLY ONE ASSIGNED THE PROJECTS DIRECTLY OTHER THAN JACOB. ONE OF THE REASONS I WAS BROUGHT HERE IS TO CENTRALIZE IT BECAUSE IT'S SPREAD ALL OVER, AND SCOTT'S BEEN WORKING ON A LOT OF THEM, AND HE'S GOT A LOT OF OTHER THINGS TO DO, SO WE'RE TRYING TO CENTRALIZE ESPECIALLY OUR MAJOR PROJECTS. IN ORDER TO DO THAT IN THE PROCESS, I CAME UP WITH A COUPLE OF LISTS. REALLY, I WAS PARTNERING WITH ALL THE DIRECTORS AS THEY HAVE DEBRIEFED WITH ME ABOUT THE PROJECTS. ONE OF THEM IS WE'RE GOING TO CREATE A SCOPING CHECK LIST, WHICH I HAVE. WE'RE GOING TO IMPLEMENT THAT TO HELP IMPROVE OUR BIDDING AND TO IMPROVE OUR CONTRACTOR PERFORMANCE. WE ARE PREPARED TO IMPLEMENT A PROJECT MANAGEMENT SOFTWARE. [01:25:06] I'VE GOT A SIMPLE ONE THAT I'VE USED. IT'S VERY EASY FOR EVEN JUST ME TO IMPLEMENT, AND WE'LL START DOING THAT SO WE CAN TRACK PROJECTS BETTER. WE'RE GOING TO START WITH ON ALL OUR MAJOR PROJECTS, WE'RE GOING TO DO A THIRD PARTY INSPECTION. ONE OF THE CHALLENGES WE'VE HAD IS THAT WE'VE BEEN TRYING TO MIX AND MATCH THAT, AND WE HAVEN'T GOTTEN CLEAN INSPECTION. MOSTLY ON THE DOCUMENT SIDE, WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO KEEP PROJECTS MOVING, BUT WE HAVEN'T BEEN DOCUMENTING WHEN THERE ARE PROBLEMS AND HOW WE FIX THEM, WHICH IS A LONG-TERM ISSUE AS YOU BUILD THINGS. WE HAVE IMPLEMENTED A PRE-CONSTRUCTION MEETING FOR ALL OF OUR INTERNAL AND EXTERNAL PROJECTS, AS WELL AS WE'RE DOING THAT WITH PEOPLE WHO ARE BUILDING ON THEIR OWN PROPERTY BECAUSE IT'S HELPING US BE CONSISTENT AND MAKE SURE THAT THEY HAVE THE INFORMATION THEY NEED AND PROVIDING A BETTER CUSTOMER SERVICE. WE PUT TOGETHER THE FIVE YEAR PLAN, WHICH WILL BE INTRODUCED AS PART OF THE BUDGET THE NEXT YEAR, WE'LL BE PUTTING TOGETHER A 20 YEAR PLAN. WE WILL BE BACK TO TALK TO YOU ABOUT THAT AND GET YOUR INPUT DURING THE YEAR. THEY'LL BE PART OF THE STRATEGIC PLANNING PROCESS, BUT WE ARE GOING TO WANT TO HEAR FROM YOU ABOUT WHAT ARE ALL, THAT'S THE WISH LIST. WE WANT TO CREATE A LONG-TERM WISH LIST THAT WE CAN MAKE SURE WE'RE CHOOSING FROM AS WE GO. WE'RE GOING TO TRY AND COLLECT THAT. FOR PARKS, WE'LL START HERE WITH YOU. THE OTHER THING IS IT WAS MENTIONED MAINTENANCE COSTS EARLIER. EVERY PROJECT WHEN WE TAKE IT THROUGH THE PROCESS, AS WE START TO GET NEAR CONSTRUCTION, WE WILL ADD A LIST OF WHAT THE ONGOING MAINTENANCE COST INCREASES WILL BE FOR EACH OF THE SITES. WHEN YOU SEE A PROJECT AND WE'RE DONE WITH THE DESIGN AND WE KNOW WHAT WE'RE GOING TO BUILD, THEN THERE'LL BE A MAINTENANCE COST WITH IT. EVERYONE WILL UNDERSTAND WHAT THAT TAKES, INCLUDING THE FACT THAT YOU CANNOT CONTINUE TO ADD INVENTORY AND NOT ADD STAFF TO DO THAT. YES, YOU CAN USE CONTRACTORS BUT IN MANY INSTANCES, OUR STAFF WOULD BE MUCH BETTER, IN SOME INSTANCES, CONTRACTORS ARE BETTER. BUT ONE OF THE THINGS ABOUT OUR PARKS IS ALL OF OUR PARKS, MAINTENANCE STAFF, KNOW ALL THE USERS. THEY SEE THEM EVERY DAY. THAT PERSONAL SERVICE IS REALLY IMPORTANT TO THE SENSE OF COMMUNITY THAT PARKS CREATE. THAT'S WHERE WE ARE WITH PROJECTS. AGAIN, LIKE I SAID, WE'LL BE BACK PLENTY OF TIMES, BUT IF YOU HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, I'M ALSO WORKING A LOT IN PLANNING RIGHT NOW. >> I HAVE QUITE A FEW THINGS TO TALK ABOUT THE EBER ALVAREZ. SOME I'VE HAD DIRECTLY WITH SCOTT ALREADY. SOME I SAID AT THE MEETING. I WAS FRUSTRATED TO HEAR THIS AT THE CITY COMMISSION MEETING LAST WEEK AND ABOUT THE POSSIBLE CHANGES. JUST A REMINDER I KNOW JOHN AND YOU ALL WERE NOT HERE WHEN ALL THIS WAS UNFOLDING, BUT THERE WERE COMPLAINTS THAT THE SOCCER FIELDS WEREN'T DRAINING. IT'S VERY WET OUT THERE. WHEN IT RAINS, IT'S WET FOR LIKE THREE OR FOUR DAYS. IT'S JUST VERY WET. THEN MAYOR BEAN SAID, "WELL, WE CAN'T HAVE THAT. LET'S DO THIS. I'M GOING TO CALL, WE'RE GOING TO GET BUILT, WE'RE GOING TO GET SOME EXTRA SPACE OUT THERE." WHICH TRIGGERED THEN, WHAT ARE WE GOING TO DO WITH THESE SOFTBALL FIELDS? WELL, WE HAVE TO REPLACE THE SOFTBALL FIELD SO WE DON'T HAVE TO PAY BACK THE GRANT MONEY. WE'LL WAIT FOR THE NEW FIREHOUSE TO BE BUILT SO OCEAN RESCUE CAN MOVE FROM THERE, AND WE'LL USE THAT SPACE AND EXPAND AGAIN AT MLK TO BUILD OUT THOSE SOFTBALL FIELDS THAT NOW WE'RE MOVING TO ACCOMMODATE A GIANT SOCCER COMPLEX. I WAS VERY FRUSTRATED THROUGH THIS WHOLE PROCESS ABOUT THE FUNDING OF THIS. WE'RE SAYING WE'RE GOING TO USE $1.7 MILLION OF CITY MONEY. BUT THEN IT'S GREAT BECAUSE THE COUNTY IS GOING TO KICK IN 1.7 MILLION OF THEIR MONEY. BUT THAT'S ALSO OUR MONEY BECAUSE WE ARE COUNTY RESIDENTS AS WELL, SO WE'RE PAYING FOR THIS TWICE. MY ARGUMENT THEN WAS THAT I DON'T BELIEVE THAT CHILDREN ARE GOING TO BE THE HIGHEST DEMOGRAPHIC IN OUR CITY AS WE MOVE FORWARD. THE COST IT'S GOING TO BE PROHIBITIVE. MOST OF THE GROWTH, WE CAN ALL AGREE IS HAPPENING WEST OF THE SHAVE, YULEE, WILDLIGHT, ALL OF THOSE PLACES. I ADVOCATED THEN THAT WE SHOULD BE MAKING A PARTNERSHIP DEAL WITH THE COUNTY LIKE THIS, BUT IT SHOULD BE IN REVERSE, [01:30:02] THAT WE SHOULD BE BUILDING A GIANT SOCCER COMPLEX OR SPORTS COMPLEX. MAYBE IT'S MULTIPLE SPORTS, I DON'T KNOW, OUT IN THE COUNTY AND WHERE A LOT MORE PEOPLE CAN ENJOY IT. THAT BEING SAID, I SUPPORTED THAT THEN AND WAS VERY VOCAL ABOUT IT, BUT WE STILL NEED TO HAVE A PRESENCE OF SOCCER ON THE ISLAND. I DON'T SUPPORT ANYTHING THAT IS GOING TO FULLY TAKE SOCCER AWAY FROM THE ISLAND BECAUSE AS A PARENT MYSELF, IT'S CONVENIENT FOR ME AFTER WORK OR WITH MY KIDS AT SCHOOL, THEY CAN RIDE THEIR BIKE TO THEIR PRACTICE EVEN. IF WE TAKE AWAY THAT FROM THE ISLAND AND MAKE IT WHERE ISLAND KIDS CAN'T GET THERE. I WILL SAY I'VE TALKED TO THE PRESIDENT OF AMELIA ISLAND YOUTH SOCCER AND THE DIRECTOR OF YOUTH SOCCER. THE MAJORITY OF THE KIDS THAT USE SOCCER ARE COUNTY KIDS, BUT WE STILL HAVE A LARGE NUMBER, AND THERE ARE 800 KIDS WHO USE THIS PROGRAM, AND THEY'RE BUSTING AT THE SEAMS JUST WITH WHAT THEY HAVE. THIS WAS ALSO MY ARGUMENT TWO YEARS AGO WAS THAT EVEN IF WE BUILD WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT FOR $3.6 MILLION, THEY'RE ALREADY GOING TO HAVE OUTGROWN THAT FACILITY, AND WHAT ARE WE DOING? THEIR LONG-TERM PLANS FOR SOCCER ARE TO BUILD UP A BIG AMELIA ISLAND-ISH AREA OF KIDS AND THEIR TEAMS AND THEN BUILD OUT A CALLAHAN LARGE GROUP AND A YULEE LARGE GROUP SO THAT THEN THEY CAN PLAY EACH OTHER, INSTEAD OF THE SAME KIDS EVERY WEEK. THEY'RE LOOKING AT WHAT THAT GROWTH LOOKS LIKE. THE THIRD OPTION, WHICH I'M NOT SURE I HEARD IT HERE AS I HEARD IT AT THE CITY COMMISSION MEETING WAS TO TAKE PROPERTY FROM THE GOLF COURSE, NINE HOLES AND BUILD THE SOCCER FIELDS THERE. >> WHOSE IDEA WAS THAT? >> IT'S JUST BEEN FLOATED. I DON'T KNOW WHOSE IDEA IT WAS. I ALSO DON'T SUPPORT THAT FOR THE REASONS I MENTIONED EARLIER. I WOULD NOT ADVOCATE TAKING SOMETHING THAT HAS POTENTIAL REVENUE GENERATION WHERE WE CAN MAKE MONEY AND PUT IT TOWARDS SOMETHING THAT ISN'T A MONEY MAKER. THE SOCCER PEOPLE AREN'T MAKING MONEY OFF KIDS. THEY'RE PROVIDING SPORTS. THEY'RE PROVIDING SERVICES FOR THE KIDS. BUT WE ALSO HAVE A FINITE AMOUNT OF PROPERTY ON THE ISLAND TO GET. >> WHAT ABOUT USING SOME OF THE SCHOOL PROPERTY FOR RECREATION? >> WELL, THAT'S A WHOLE DIFFERENT BEAST. IF YOU'VE EVER SAT THROUGH ANY OF THEIR SHARED MEETINGS. WE'RE STILL TRYING TO GET THE LEASE SIGNED THAT ENDS AT THE END OF THIS YEAR FOR HICKORY PARK. IT'S JUST MORE BUREAUCRACY. LISTEN, I WOULDN'T COUNT ON THEM, THE SCHOOL DISTRICT AND IT'S GOING TO BE IN A BAD WAY IN MY OPINION, AND THEY ARE PROBABLY GOING TO WANT ALL OF THE PROPERTY THAT THEY OWN TO BE ABLE TO BE LIQUID TO BUILD SCHOOLS OR WHATEVER SHORTCOMINGS THEY HAVE GOING FORWARD. I THINK WE NEED TO RELY ON OUR OWN SELVES AS FAR AS WHAT THAT IS. I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE ANSWER IS. >> BUT LIKE I LOVE NONE OF THESE SOLUTIONS THAT ARE. >> I'D LIKE TO GO BACK TO I THINK IT WAS A LOCAL MOVEMENT TO GET MORE HANGERS. WHETHER IT'S PEOPLE ON THE AIRPORT BOARD OR THE LOCAL FBO OPERATOR FORCING THAT. >> NO, IT'S NOT UP TO US, THOUGH, BECAUSE THE FAA HAS THE FINAL WORD AND TO. >> WHEN YOU SAY FAA [OVERLAPPING]. IT'S A PERSON. IT'S A GROUP. >> ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE'RE DRAGGING THE FEET IS BECAUSE OF ALL THE CHANGES THAT HAD BEEN MADE TO THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT AND GETTING RESPONSES IS EVEN FURTHER DELAYED HOLDING UP OUR TIME FRAME. >> THAT'S ABSOLUTELY TRUE. >> THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS THAT HAVE BEEN EVER SINCE THIS WAS FIRST MENTIONED THAT, WE NEED TO BUILD A NEW SOCCER THING HAS JUST CREATED A DOMINO OF A NIGHTMARE TO WHERE POOR PATONK IS BEING ACCOSTED BY SOFTBALL PEOPLE BECAUSE IT WAS JUST A HOT MESS. AGAIN, WHATEVER THIS PROCESS IS, THE COMMISSION IS GOING TO BE LOOKING TO US TO GIVE THEM SOME INPUT. WE DON'T STEP IN A SITUATION LIKE THAT AGAIN, THAT WAS UGLY. I THINK THAT WE REALLY NEED TO BE THINKING ABOUT WAYS THAT WE CAN SOLVE THIS PROBLEM BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW ANYBODY WHO LIVES ON THE ISLAND THAT WOULD LOVE TO HAVE TO GO ACROSS THE BRIDGE TO PLAY SOCCER. >> I AGREE WITH YOU. I'M FULLY AGAINST MOVING IT OFF ISLAND. I GO OFF ISLAND ALL THE TIME FOR STUFF. BUT AFTER SCHOOL AND YOU'VE GOT BASEBALL PRACTICE AND DANCE AND SOCCER AND YOU'RE TRYING TO RUN THE KIDS AROUND, IT'S A TRICK, AND YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO SAY, I'M SORRY, YOU CAN'T PLAY BASEBALL THIS YEAR BECAUSE WE'RE DOING SOCCER, OR YOUR BROTHER OR WHOEVER, AND I CAN'T MAKE IT TO ALL THE FACILITIES. IF YOU'RE A CITY RESIDENT, THERE ARE COUNTY BOTHER, [01:35:02] BUT THERE'S ALSO COUNTY RESIDENTS AND CHILDREN ON THE ISLAND WHO GO TO THE SCHOOLS AND STUFF ON THE ISLAND, AND THAT THEY EVEN THOUGH THEY'RE NOT CITY RESIDENTS, THERE'S A LARGE MAJORITY OF COUNTY KIDS ON THE ISLAND WHO PLAY AT THOSE FIELDS AS WELL. I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT IT IS A COUNTY PARTNERSHIP, AND I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT IT STAYS ON THE ISLAND. >> MY CONCERN IS BECAUSE THIS HAS BEEN A CONVERSATION NOW FOR TWO YEARS. I SAID THIS TO SCOTT. OF COURSE, WE KNEW THIS WAS COMING DOWN THE PIPE, SO WE HAVEN'T BEEN DOING WHAT'S NECESSARY OUT THERE AT YBOR. FOR THEM ON THE REGULAR WE JUST BEEN MAINTAINING AS BEST WE COULD. SAME OVER MLK. EVERYBODY'S GETTING THE SHORT END OF THE STICK BECAUSE WE'RE HURRY UP AND DO NOTHING, BASICALLY. I THINK I HEARD YOU GLENN SAY THAT MAYBE IN 26, SOME OF THESE SOCCER FIELDS ARE GOING TO BE OPEN IN THE COUNTY, BUT THAT IS NOT THE CONVERSATION YOU AND I HAD. THIS WAS REALLY MORE OF A THREE YEAR DOWN THE ROAD BEFORE THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE ANY IMPACTFUL SERVICES IN THE COUNTY. >> I VERIFIED THAT THEY WOULD BE OPENED IN 26 ON FRIDAY FOR THE COUNTY. >> [OVERLAPPING] THE CONVERSATION I HAD LAST WEEK BECAUSE AGAIN, I'M WORRIED ABOUT KIDS WILL GRADUATE FROM HIGH SCHOOL BEFORE THEY GET A DECENT FIELD TO PLAY ON, AND THAT SHOULD NOT BE. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE ALL AWARE OF THE HISTORY OF HOW WE GOT HERE AND THE IMPACTS THAT HAVE BEEN HAPPENING AND THEN THE CONCERNS THAT ARE STILL BEING HAD OF IT SOUNDS LIKE OF ALL OF THOSE PROJECTS THAT WERE PART OF THE DOMINOES, THE ONE THAT REALISTICALLY IN THE CITY IS GOING TO BE HAPPENING SOON IS MLK FIELDS, CORRECT? WE HAVE A DESIGN FOR THAT. WE ARE GOING TO HAVE CONVERSATIONS WITH THE STAKEHOLDERS SOON. >> ONGOING. WE'VE ALREADY BEEN. >> WELL, WHEN IS MLK GOING TO HAVE SOME FIELDS? I GUESS WOULD BE MY QUESTION. >> AS SOON AS WE CAN GET THROUGH THAT PROCESS AND I CAN BUILD THEM. WE HAVE IT TARGETED IN THE BUDGET PROCESS FOR 26. >> RIGHT NOW THAT MONEY, WE HAVE PUT MONEY ASIDE FOR THE EXPANSION OF MLK. WE HAVE SPOKEN WITH ELM STREET LITTLE LEAGUE. THEY ARE ON BOARD. WE HAVE HAD CONVERSATIONS WITH THE ELM STREET SPORTSMAN'S ASSOCIATION. THERE ARE SOME CONCERNS WITH THE EXISTING DESIGN THAT THEY HAVE THAT WE ARE CURRENTLY WORKING THROUGH WITH THEM. I MET WITH THEM LAST WEEK. I HAVE A MEETING WITH GLENN LATER THIS WEEK TO GO OVER WITH WHAT SOME OF THEIR CONCERNS ARE. ULTIMATELY, I THINK THROUGH THIS PROCESS IS I WANT TO MAKE SURE AND GLENN WANTS TO MAKE SURE THAT BEFORE WE COME TO YOU WITH THIS, WE HAVE VETTED ALL THE PEOPLE THAT ARE GOING TO HAVE A CONCERN. I DON'T WANT TO JUMP AHEAD AND PRESENT THIS TO YOU. I'VE TOLD THESE ORGANIZATIONS THAT, TOO IS I WANT TO MAKE SURE EVERYTHING'S VETTED. I THINK THERE'S GOING TO BE SOME CONCERNS. WE HAVE TO WORK THROUGH THOSE CONCERNS WITH THE COMMUNITY BEFORE WE BRING IT TO YOU FOR YOUR APPROVAL, RECOMMENDATION TO THE CITY COMMISSION. >> ONE OF THE THINGS SCOTT AND I HAD THIS CONVERSATION A LITTLE BIT PRELIMINARILY THIS WEEK IS I FEEL LIKE I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE A WORKSHOP. I UNDERSTAND ELM STREET LITTLE LEAGUE. I UNDERSTAND THEIR ENGAGEMENT. THEY USE THE FIELDS. THEY'RE A SOFTBALL ASSOCIATION. I DON'T UNDERSTAND THE RELATIONSHIP OF ELM STREET SPORTSMAN'S ASSOCIATION AND WHAT THEIR INTEREST IS. I MEAN, I'D LIKE TO KNOW ON THE FACE, NEW SOFTBALL FIELDS. THAT SEEMS LIKE A GREAT IDEA. WHAT ARE THE CONCERNS? WHAT ARE THE PROBLEMS THAT PEOPLE HAVE? I FEEL LIKE IF WE DON'T KNOW THE BACKGROUND TO THOSE THINGS BEFORE IT COMES BEFORE US, IT'S HARD TO MAKE THOSE DECISIONS IN MY OPINION. I WOULD ALSO SEE A WORKSHOP WITH THAT GROUP OF, WHAT IS THE DESIGN PLAN? I HAVEN'T SEEN THE DESIGN PLAN, I THINK THAT WE HAVE IT, BUT WHAT DOES THAT LOOK LIKE AND WHAT ARE THE CONCERNS, AND WHAT ARE THE THINGS THAT WE SHOULD BE THINKING ABOUT FOR WHEN PEOPLE CALL US WITH THE CONCERNS. >> I THINK MAYBE GLENN AND I CAN TALK ABOUT THIS WEEK IS MAYBE THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE CAN DO IS WE CAN SET UP A COMMUNITY EVENT WHERE WE GO BEFORE SO YOU CAN HEAR SOME OF THOSE CONCERNS. WE NEED TO VET ALL THOSE CONCERNS AND MAKE YOU AWARE OF THEM BEFORE WE HAVE JUST PRESENTING IT TO YOU WITH A ROOMFUL OF PEOPLE. WE ARE AVOIDING THOSE SITUATIONS. IT HAS TO BE ALL VETTED BEFORE IT GETS TO YOU. >> IF I COULD JUST PIGGYBACK, ONE THING THAT SCOTT AND I TALK ABOUT A LOT IS THAT WE [01:40:04] DON'T WANT ANOTHER VARIETIES SITUATION THAT WE HAD IN THE PAST, OR EVEN IF ANYONE WAS HERE FOR THE [INAUDIBLE] SITUATION AROUND PEC. WE TALK ABOUT THIS ALL THE TIME. WE WANT TO LEARN FROM OUR MISTAKES. THIS TIME, WE REALLY ARE BEING VERY MINDFUL OF HOW WE GO THROUGH THIS PROCESS SO THAT WHEN IT DOES COME TO YOU, YOU KNOW ALL OF THE BACKGROUND AND WHAT THE STAKEHOLDERS HAVE TO SAY. WE'RE JUST NOT THERE YET. WE'RE CLOSE, BUT WE'RE NOT THERE YET. I THINK WE'RE GETTING TO THE POINT WHERE THESE WORKSHOPS WILL HAPPEN, BUT I'M VERY PROUD OF THE WAY THIS IS BEING HANDLED AND I FEEL CONFIDENT GOING INTO IT. >> THAT WAS EXACTLY WHAT I THOUGHT WAS WE DON'T WANT SURPRISES FROM THE AUDIENCE. THEY SHOULD KNOW EXACTLY WHAT'S GOING ON BEFORE WE START SAYING THIS. >> I THINK WE ALL LEARN FROM THE JOE ALVAREZ INCIDENT, HOW DISRUPTIVE IT CAN BE AND HAVING THIS ABILITY TO GET EVERYTHING OUT IN FRONT BY THE DEPARTMENT OF RECREATION, WHO'S CONCERNED ABOUT IT? TRYING TO MELT ALL THIS TOGETHER AND THEN PRESENTED TO US. NOBODY'S BEING LEFT OUT OF THE PIOUS WAY I LOOK AT IT RIGHT NOW. WE'RE JUST MAKING SURE THAT EVERYBODY THAT WAS INVOLVED IN THAT JOE ALVAREZ WOULD NEVER LIKE TO SEE. >> JOE ALVAREZ. >> JOE ALVAREZ WILL NEVER WANT TO SEE THAT EVER HAPPEN AGAIN. IT WAS NOT A REAL GOOD. I GUESS I WASN'T A GOOD LOOK ON PARKS AND RECORDS. >> WELL, THE ONLY REASON I BROUGHT THAT UP IS BECAUSE IT SEEMS LIKE THE ONLY PROJECT THAT REALLY CAN BE MOVING FORWARD RIGHT NOW IS MLK. THE OTHER PROJECTS ARE INSTALLED FOR WHATEVER REASON OR WE'VE GOT TO DO SOMETHING ELSE, BUT MLK CAN MOVE FORWARD. >> YES WE HAVE THE MONEY IN THE BUDGET FOR NEXT YEAR, AND WE ARE WORKING THROUGH THE ORGANIZATIONS THAT WE FEEL THAT WE HAVE TO HIT TO MAKE SURE WE GET BUY IN BEFORE WE PRESENT STUFF TO YOU. YES. THAT ALL GOES BACK TO WHAT YOU WERE SAYING PREVIOUSLY IS WITH OCEAN RESCUE. OCEAN RESCUE NOW IS OVER BY SADLER. NOW WE CAN USE THAT COMPLEX TO EXPAND THOSE FIELDS. THEN WHILE THOSE FIELDS ARE BEING EXPANDED, WE HAVE THE ACCESS TO YBOR ALVAREZ SOFTBALL COMPLEX, SO WE WOULDN'T DISRUPT. THEY COULD STILL CONTINUE TO PLAY JUST AT A DIFFERENT LOCATION WHILE WE'RE MAKING THOSE UPGRADES TO THAT FACILITY. THAT IS IN THE PLANS FOR NEXT YEAR. >> THAT THEY WOULD BE PLAYING AT YBOR ALVAREZ? >> WELL, THEY COULD PLAY AT THOSE FIELDS, ESPECIALLY IF WE CAN GET THIS COMPLETED NEXT YEAR, THEY COULD PLAY AT THOSE FIELDS WHILE THEY'RE NOT INTERRUPTED BEFORE IF WE WERE TO MOVE THOSE SOCCER FIELDS OVER TO THOSE FIELDS. >> I SEE WHAT YOU'RE SAYING. >> THEY COULD USE THAT BEFORE. >> THEY NEED A HOME. >> TEMPORARY HOME. >> YES. THEY WOULD USE THOSE FIELDS AS A TEMPORARY. >> USE WHICH FIELD SCOTT? >> THEY WOULD USE THE SOFTBALL FIELDS THAT ARE AT YBOR. THEN WE COULD DO THE WORK AT MLK. THEY WOULD MOVE BACK TO MLK. THEN IF WE WERE TO PROCEED WITH THE SOCCER CONVERSION, THEN WE WOULD BE ALLOWED TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THAT AT THAT POINT. >> THE CALENDARS ARE LINING UP. >> REGARDLESS OF HOW WE GO ABOUT. >> THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU. >> I REALLY APPRECIATE THE UPDATE. STAFF UPDATES. >> I'LL JUST FOLLOW UP REALLY QUICKLY, AND THANK YOU, GLENN. I APPRECIATE IT. I THINK WE ARE ON THE RIGHT TRACK WITH THESE PROJECTS, AND YOU WILL BE SEEING THESE AS WE MOVE FORWARD. BUT ONCE AGAIN, I WANT TO REITERATE IS THAT I WANT TO MAKE SURE EVERYONE IN THE COMMUNITY KNOWS HERE WE'RE MEETING WITH THEM BEFORE IT GETS TO YOU. THAT IS IMPORTANT TO US. SOME GOOD NOTES. AT WE'RE OBVIOUSLY APPROACHING THE END OF OUR FISCAL YEAR. I JUST WANTED TO UPDATE A FEW OF THESE PROJECTS FOR YOU IS THE HICKORY STREET BATHROOMS ARE IN PLACE AND ARE OPEN. THEY LOOK BEAUTIFUL. NOT A TON OF USE RIGHT NOW, BUT WE WILL GET MUCH MORE USE NOW THAT THE SCHOOLS ARE BACK IN SESSION. [01:45:03] HICKORY STREET IS USED EVERY AFTERNOON, WITH KIDS. FOR PRACTICES THAT'S WITHIN THE SCHOOL. IT'S OUR YOUTH SPORTS ORGANIZATIONS. HICKORY STREET PARK IS USED. WITH THE RAINFALL, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'VE NOTICED, BUT I DO GO AROUND AND LOOK AT THIS STUFF, BUT OUR FIELDS ARE REALLY COMING BACK IN AND THEY'RE GREENING UP, SO I'M REALLY EXCITED ABOUT THAT. >> THANK YOU FOR THOSE BATHROOMS, AND I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S INTENTIONAL, BUT PEOPLE ARE VERY MINDFULLY PARKING AT AN ANGLE TOWARDS THE FENCE ON THE PARK SIDE OF THE ROAD. THEY'RE GETTING OUT OF THE ROAD, AND THERE'S MUCH MORE PARKING AVAILABLE OVER THERE. I DON'T KNOW IF THAT WAS A CITY DIRECTIVE OR WHATEVER, BUT THEY'RE PARKING, ANGLED TOWARDS THE FENCES. >> YEAH. >> WE'LL TAKE CREDIT FOR THAT. >> WELL, THEY'RE NOT HURTING THE TREES, BUT THEY'RE DOING IT IN A WAY. THEY'RE NOT ON THE STREET, AND THEY'RE NOT PARKING LONG WAYS. THERE'S ACTUALLY IF IT WAS JUST A HAPPY ACCIDENT, IT IS WORKING OUT WELL. THERE'S PROBABLY THREE TIMES THE NUMBER OF CARS THAT ARE, THAT COULD FIT THERE BEFORE. >> AWESOME. I THINK WHAT'S REALLY IMPORTANT ABOUT THE HICKORY STREET PARK IS FACILITY MAINTENANCE, THE UTILITY DEPARTMENT, THE CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE. THERE WAS A GROUP OF JUST VERY ACROSS THE BOARD, A LOT OF DEPARTMENTS WORKING TOGETHER TO MAKE THAT HAPPEN. I JUST THINK THAT THEY NEED TO BE THE STREETS DEPARTMENT. THEY WENT IN, THEY GRADED IT, THEY FIXED THE PARKING BUMPERS. I NOTICED SOMEONE JUST TRIMMED A FEW SMALL BRANCHES UNDERNEATH THAT WERE RUBBING ON PEOPLE'S CARS AS THEY WENT IN THERE, SO WE CLEANED IT UP REALLY NICELY. OBVIOUSLY, THE WEST SIDE OF THAT. WE WENT IN THERE, WE CLEANED IT UP, WE'RE MAINTAINING IT. I JUST THINK THE BATHROOMS IS A VERY NICE TOUCH. THOSE WERE IMPACT FEES VERY WELL USED. THE BATTING CAGES AT CENTRAL PARK. THIS WAS A $50,000 GRANT FROM THE COUNTY, AS WELL AS BABE RUTH KICKED IN A LOT OF MONEY AS WELL. THAT WE HAVE BEEN APPROVED TO OPEN THEM. THE FINAL INSPECTION, I BELIEVE, SCHEDULED FOR TOMORROW. THAT PROJECT IS BASICALLY COMPLETED. THE MEN'S LOCKER ROOM AT THE ATLANTIC RECREATION CENTER IS SCHEDULED TO HAVE THE FINAL PERMIT, THE CERTIFICATE OF OCCUPANCY THIS WEEK AS WELL. THEN I'M NOT TOO HEAVILY INVOLVED WITH THIS, BUT THE PUP FIELDING. WHAT I HAVE BEEN TOLD AT THE MIDDLE OF AUGUST. THAT MIGHT HAVE BEEN MOVED UP. I HAVEN'T SEEN MUCH ACTION AROUND THERE, BUT THAT'S WHAT I WAS TOLD WHEN I WAS DEVELOPING THIS. I WOULD JUST LIKE TO SAY VERY QUICKLY THAT THE YOUTH ADVISORY COMMITTEE HAD PUT ON FOR THE NATIONAL NIGHT OUT AND PARKING [INAUDIBLE]. I THINK THEY DID A GREAT JOB. MARY HAMBURG, I KNOW, KATIE, DEANA WAS INVOLVED IN THAT. I THOUGHT IT WAS VERY NICE. IT WAS WELL ATTENDED. I LOOK FORWARD TO MANY MORE OF THOSE EVENTS AT OUR NEW WATERFRONT PARK. THEN OBVIOUSLY ON THE HORIZON, I JUST WANT TO KEEP THESE ON HERE BECAUSE THEY ARE GOING TO BE COMING HERE IS THE MARTIN LUTHER KING SOFTBALL FIELDS, THE EB OVER OUR SPORTS COMPLEX, AND WITH THE NEW CITY ATTORNEY STARTING, WE WILL BE REVISITING THE SPECIAL EVENT PROCESS AND THE PUBLIC ART POLICY AS WELL. I THINK WE'LL ACTUALLY BRING THOSE BACK JUST FOR A REFRESHER TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU GUYS ARE ON BOARD AS WELL. IN THE NEAR FUTURE, I THINK WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A WORKSHOP WITH THE CITY COMMISSION REGARDING SPECIAL EVENTS AS WELL. I WAS GOING TO ASK ABOUT THAT SPECIFICALLY. WHEN WE REVISIT THAT, ONLY BECAUSE ONE OF THE QUESTIONS I HAD ABOUT A SPECIAL EVENT THAT JUST GOT APPROVED THE OCTOBER FEST. OUTSIDE OF PJDS. BUT SO THE WEEK BEFORE, THEN WE'RE CLOSING THIRD STREET OR THE WEEK AFTER SEEMED LIKE THEY WERE BACK TO BACK STREET CLOSURES FOR THE HISPANIC HERITAGE FESTIVAL. I UNDERSTOOD THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE MOVING A LOT OF THOSE STREET CLOSURES DOWN TO THE NEW WATERFRONT PARK WHEN THAT OPENS, SO WE CAN AVOID THAT. IT JUST PROMPTED ME TO THINK THAT WHEN WE REVISIT THE SPECIAL EVENTS, THAT WHOLE PACKET IS MAYBE WE REALLY TRY TO THINK FORWARD ABOUT HOW WE'LL USE THAT NEW EVENT SPACE AND NOT JUST HOW WE'RE OPERATING CURRENTLY, BECAUSE I THINK WHEN THEY BROUGHT UP THE BUSINESSES THAT ARE IMPACTED FROM THE STREET CLOSURES IS PROBABLY A REALLY GOOD POINT. SOME MINOR DISCUSSIONS THAT HAVE HAPPENED JUST AMONGST THE SPECIAL EVENTS COMMITTEE IS WHAT DO WE WANT IT TO LOOK LIKE DOWN AT THE WATERFRONT PARK, [01:50:03] AND WE SEE THAT AS OUR SPECIAL EVENT SPACE. WE WANT TO GUIDE MOST EVENTS DOWN THERE. OF COURSE, THE HISTORICAL EVENTS LIKE DICKENS ON CENTER AND TRIM FESTIVAL, THAT'S GOING TO REMAIN THE SAME. BUT ALL THESE OTHER ONES THAT ARE CONSTRICTING OUR DOWNTOWN STREETS WILL BE PUSHED DOWN THERE, AND I KNOW IT COULD GO INTO THE GUIDELINES, BUT IT'LL MAINLY WEIGH HEAVY ON THE COMMITTEE GOING BACK TO THE APPLICANTS AND SAYING, WELL, WE'RE GOING TO REJECT YOU THIS YEAR, CLOSING A STREET, BUT YOU'RE WELCOME TO USE THE WATERFRONT PARK. THERE'S WAYS TO HIT IT. THINKING THE HISPANIC HERITAGE FESTIVAL. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT MADE THAT SO GREAT WAS THEY HAD THAT STAGE RIGHT IN FRONT OF THE TURTLE. THEN YOU HAD ALL THAT SPACE IN FRONT OF THE TURTLE. LOGISTICALLY, IT WORKED OUT GOOD. BUT THEN, THERE ARE BUSINESSES THAT ARE IMPACTED WHEN PEOPLE CAN'T GET. [OVERLAPPING]. MAYBE THEY GET A BEER TROLLEY THAT JUST CIRCLES THEM TO A TURTLE. [OVERLAPPING] I THINK CAN HAPPEN. AGAIN, I FELT LIKE THERE WAS A LOT OF NUANCE I HADN'T EVEN REALLY THOUGHT ABOUT. I WAS WOW, THAT COULD BE A MESS. I THINK THAT MIGHT BE PART OF THE CONVERSATION WITH A WORKSHOP TOO. THAT'S IT. WITH THAT, I GUESS IS THERE ANY QUESTIONS REGARDING THIS? OTHERWISE, MR. BIGGERS WILL COME UP, DO A QUICK UPDATE, AND THEN WE'LL MOVE ON TO BOARD MEMBER COMMENTS. THANK YOU, SCOTT. I'LL TRY TO GO TO MY REPORT RATHER QUICKLY. IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS THAT I GET IN YOUR AREAS, IT'S BASICALLY GOING THROUGH WHAT WE'VE DONE FOR THE LAST MONTH AND A HALF TO TWO MONTHS. FOR THE GOLF PRO SHOP, JULY NUMBERS WERE 75 K MORE THAN WE WERE LAST JULY. THESE NUMBERS ARE REALLY EXCITING BECAUSE ROUNDS ARE UP, GOLF IS UP. IF YOU LOOK AT THOSE NUMBERS, WE AVERAGE 152 PLAYERS, THAT'S OVER CLOSE TO 50 A PLAYER PER DAY THAN PREVIOUS JULY. I REALLY BELIEVE COURSE CONDITIONS PERTAIN TO THAT. JUST THE OPPORTUNITY TO GET OUT AND PLAY. THE WEATHER SINCE MID FEBRUARY, KNOCK ON WOOD HAS BEEN VERY GOOD CONDUCIVE FOR OUTDOOR AREAS. THE TOTAL GOLF COURSE THE REVENUE 197,286, OUR AVERAGE PER ROUND WAS JUST OVER $34, WHICH WAS UP. WE DO HAVE A SALE GOING FOR THESE TWO MONTHS DISCOUNT, SO WE ARE DOING DISCOUNTS AT TIMES IN THE GOLF SHOP ON SOME OF OUR FOOT JOY SHIRTS. I JUST REALLY WANT TO THANK ALL MY GOLF SHOP STAFF BECAUSE SINCE MID FEBRUARY AS BUSY AS WE'VE BEEN HAS DONE A GREAT JOB. BECAUSE SOMETIMES YOU HAVE TO GET OUT OF THE SHOP AND GO OUT AND CHECK ON PEOPLE IN THE GOLF COURSE AND WE'VE BEEN BUSY. THESE ARE GOOD THINGS, AND THESE ARE THINGS IN THE FUTURE. AS WE GET BUSIER, WE HAVE TO LOOK AT HOW OUR STAFFING LEVELS ARE, AND THEY'VE DONE A GREAT JOB. AS I MOVE INTO FOOD AND BEVERAGE, I'M GOING TO SAY THE SAME THING. THEY'VE DONE GREAT THERE, TOO. OUR NUMBERS UP OVER 8,000. WE HAD 18 TOTAL EVENTS. WE CONTINUE TO HAVE SPARK GOLF, WHICH WILL RUN THROUGH SEPTEMBER. A COUPLE OF THE HIGHLIGHTS FOR FOOD AND BEVERAGE. WE HAD OUR MEN'S GOLF ASSOCIATION DINNER ON JULY 2ND. WE HAD 60 PLUS FOR THAT. ON JULY 3RD, WE WERE ASKED BY THE CITY TO CATER THE EMPLOYEE BARBECUE AND I THOUGHT THEY DID A GREAT JOB. I HELPED OUT ALMOST EVERY EMPLOYEE IN THE CITY SHOWED UP. I THINK THEY HAD AN EMERGENCY ON ONE SIDE OF TOWN, AND WE GOT TO GO BOXES, AND IT REALLY WORKED OUT WELL. FINALLY, AT THE END OF THE MONTH, WE HAD A HIGH SCHOOL CLASS REUNION. WE'RE GETTING MORE AND MORE OF THOSE, HAD OVER 100. THESE ARE THE TYPES OF THINGS THAT GENERATE REVENUES IN FOOD AND BEVERAGE, AND CHRISTY BENJAMIN AND HER STAFF HAVE DONE A GREAT JOB IN THAT, SO I WANT TO THANK THEM TOO. GO TO GOLF COURSE MAINTENANCE. I THINK I THANK THEM EVERY MONTH. THAT'S WHY I WANTED TO THANK THE OTHER TWO AREAS. THOSE GUYS WORKED SO HARD. THIS TIME OF YEAR WITH THE GRASS GROWING, THEY'VE DONE A TON OUT THERE. RIGHT NOW WE'RE IN THE MIDDLE OF AERIFYING, WHICH IS OUR GREENS AND FAIRWAYS. THIS IS THE LAST WEEK OF IT WE HAVE THREE WEEKS OF IT, AND WE DO THIS TWICE A YEAR. IT JUST GIVES THEM TWICE AS MUCH WORK AS THEY'RE HAVING TO GO OUT THERE AND HANDLE THAT ALL WEEK, AS WELL AS MAINTAIN THE REST OF THE GOLF COURSE. ONE PROJECT THAT'S IN THERE STARTED TODAY. OUR NORTH WELL IS WE'RE TRYING TO GET UP A SECONDARY SOURCE OF WATER. WE HAD FREEMAN WELL DRILLERS, FUTURE WORKS, AND FPU OUT SETTING ALL THAT UP. IT STARTED TODAY, AND IT WORKED OUT WELL BECAUSE THE NORTH COURSE IS CLOSE WITHIN HAVING GOLFERS TO INTER FIELD. THAT'LL BE DONE THROUGH THE REST OF THE WEEK, AND WE'LL HAVE A SECOND SOURCE OF WATER. BY THE END OF THIS WEEK. HOPEFULLY, WE'LL BE BACK UP. THAT'S AWESOME. NEXT PAGE, I JUST GOING TO LET YOU KNOW, 1ST JULY, WE RECEIVED OUR LAST TWO PIECES OF EQUIPMENT. WE HAD ON ORDER FOR THIS YEAR, TWO GREENS MOWERS. STAFF IS EXCITED ABOUT THAT. [01:55:02] THEY'RE WORKING GREAT. GO EVEN FURTHER BACK, WE CONTINUE TO HAVE PROBLEMS ON SOME OF THE GOLF HOLES OUT THERE, SOME OF THE GREENS, JUST HOW THEY WERE BUILT, DESIGNED, REBUILT. THE PICTURES OR IMAGES I HAVE THERE. WE ORDERED SOME SIDE AND WE PUT IT OUT ON THE THIRD GREEN. IF YOU LOOK AT THE TWO PICTURES, THAT'S ABOUT A MONTH'S TIME, SO IT'S TAKEN GUARANTEES OF IT'S STAYING. WE'RE GOING TO FIND OUT. I THINK WE'VE DONE THIS A COUPLE OF TIMES IN THE PAST. WE HAD A LITTLE BIT LEFTOVER AND PUT IT ON THE PUTTING GREEN, BUT WE PREDOMINANTLY WANTED TO GET IT ON NUMBER 3 TO SEE HOW THAT WORKS OUT. WE JUST VERIFY THAT GREEN. THAT'S A PROBLEM AREA, AND WE'RE HOPING IT'LL MAKE IT THROUGH INTO THE SPRING, AND WE'LL SEE IF THIS IS SOMETHING WHERE WE CAN START BUDGETING FOR, WE HAVE SOME OF THESE PROBLEM AREAS TO GET SIDE AND PUT OUT THERE, IT WILL HELP THOSE AREAS, BECAUSE BASICALLY WHAT YOU SEE IN THOSE PICTURES, THAT WHOLE FRONT OF THAT BRING WAS PRETTY BAD. NEXT PAGE, SIGNAGE. WE COMPLETED ALL OUR SIGNAGE LAST MONTH ON THE GOLF COURSE. IF ANYBODY KNOWS ANY LOCAL BUSINESSES THAT WANT TO ADVERTISE, WE DON'T HANDLE IT. THAT COMPANY HANDLES. THEY GIVE US THE SIGNS, BUT THEY ATTACK AND HIT LOCAL BUSINESSES. YOU CAN GET THAT ON, JUST CALL THAT NUMBER. FROM THERE. FINALLY, LET'S SEE, AS FAR AS MARKETING GOES, I WANTED TO JUMP INTO THAT BECAUSE OUR MEMBERSHIP IS PRETTY MUCH SET, BUT NEXT YEAR, WE'RE HOPING THAT, AS I SAID, THAT'S GOING TO CHANGE AS WE START ALLOWING PEOPLE TO JOIN THROUGHOUT THE YEAR. HOPEFULLY, WE'LL GET SOME MORE OF THOSE AMELIA NATIONAL MEMBERS TO CROSS OVER. I THINK A NUMBER OF THEIR LADIES REALLY ENJOY OUR LADIES LEAGUE. BUT ON THE MARKETING STAND POINT, WE HAD A JOB FAIR LAST SATURDAY. IF YOU DIDN'T KNOW, WE'VE HAD SOME TRANSITION IN ALL THREE AREAS, THE GOLF COURSE, WE LOST A YOUNG MAN ON MAINTENANCE BECAUSE HE'S GOING OFF TO SCHOOL. WE'VE LOST A FEW CART GUYS IN THE TRANSITION. WE'RE JUST TRYING TO HIRE FROM THERE. THE BIGGEST LOSS WE HAD IS OUR CHEF. HE WAS FINISHED AT THE END OF JULY, SO WE'RE LOOKING FOR A PART TIME COOK. ALL AREAS WE'RE TRYING TO FIND AREAS TO FILL IN AS WE BUILD THE STAFF BACKUP TO WHERE WE NEEDED. TOURNAMENTS AND OUTINGS. IN JUNE, WE HAD THE LADIES CLASP OUT. THEY HAD 64 PLAYERS. THAT'S ONE OF THE BIGGEST ONES I'VE RUN. I USED TO RUN THAT AT JEKYLL ISLAND, AND THEY WERE USUALLY HALF THAT SIZE, BUT I SEE THE LADIES LEAGUES PLAYING MORE AND MORE IN THE SUMMERTIME WHEN IT'S HOT, AND I THINK IT'S GREAT. OUR MGA TWO MAN SCRAMBLE WAS ON THE 14TH. THEY HAD 28 PLAYERS. ON THE 14TH AS WELL. WE HAD THE 1ST TEE OF N FLORIDA OUT AND HAD ABOUT 40 YOUNG KIDS OUT PLAYING, SO THAT WAS A REALLY GOOD SATURDAY. WE'RE NOT HAVING A MG EVENT IN JULY, BUT WE DO HAVE ONE SCHEDULED FOR AUGUST. I KNOW IF SHAWNA WAS HERE, SHE WOULD TALK ABOUT THE SUMMER LEAGUE PLAY. I KNOW WE MADE IT TO THE PLAYOFFS FOR THAT, AND THIS IS THE FIRST TIME FERNANDINA HAS HOSTED THAT. WE HAD FOUR EVENTS THIS YEAR. I DON'T THINK WE LOST A MATCH AT HOME, SO SHOULD BE REALLY PROUD OF THAT. ON JULY 12TH, WE HAD OUR BIRDIES BRUISE AND BARBECUE, WHICH WAS A NINE HOLE EVENT. WE ALMOST COMPLETELY FILLED THAT UP, AND THAT WAS I THOUGHT IT WAS A REALLY GREAT DAY. LATE AFTERNOON, WE DID A PAR 3, SO WE SET THE TEAMS UP SHORTER THAN THEY NORMALLY ON ALL HOLES. IT WAS JUST A PAR THREE EVENT. WE WERE TRYING TO GUESS TO SEE HOW LONG IT TOOK GROUPS TO PLAY, AND THEY PLAYED ABOUT AN HOUR AND 10 MINUTES. THEY GOT OUT THERE, PLAYED, GOT IN, HAD SOMETHING TO EAT, GOT OUT, SO IT WAS REALLY GOOD THERE. UPCOMING AUGUST EVENTS, OUR NORMAL BLITZ IS ON FRIDAYS AND SATURDAYS, SPARK GOLF IN AUGUST AGAIN, AND WE'LL RUN THROUGH SEPTEMBER, AND WE HOPE TO DO THAT AGAIN STARTING NEXT APRIL. AGAIN, AERIFY ON OUR GREENS, THEY WILL BE COMPLETED HOPEFULLY THIS WEEK. THIS SATURDAY IS OUR NEXT MEN'S GOLF ASSOCIATION EVENT, TWO MAN BEST BALL. WE'LL PROBABLY FILL THAT UP TOMORROW WHEN OUR GUYS SHOW UP TO PLAY IN THE BLITZ. HIGH SCHOOL TEAM HAS STARTED PRACTICING AND THEIR FIRST BOYS MATCH IS ON AUGUST 28. I KNOW THE GIRLS HAVE TWO OR THREE MATCHES AS WELL, STARTING IN SEPTEMBER. THAT CAN INCONVENIENCE US AT TIMES BECAUSE I DON'T GIVE THEM TEA TIMES, BUT WE WORK THEM ON THE GOLF COURSE. THEY HAVE ONLY BEEN PRACTICE WITH US, I THINK THE LAST TWO YEARS. BUT I THINK THE RIVER HAS STARTED LETTING SOME, IF I'M CORRECT, COME OVER AND START PRACTICING AGAIN. I DON'T THINK THEY'VE BEEN OUT THERE FOR A COUPLE OF YEARS. THAT'S HELPED US ON TUESDAYS. FINALLY, WE HAVE A REHEARSAL DINNER ON THE 30TH, AND WE'RE LOOKING TO START REALLY FILLING IN A LOT OF OUR SEPTEMBER EVENTS IN FOOD AND BEVERAGE. THAT'S MY REPORT ON GOLF. DO YOU GUYS HAVE ANY QUESTIONS IN ANY OF THOSE AREAS? OVERALL, I'M PLEASED. I MEAN, ROUNDS, REVENUE, EVERYTHING. [02:00:02] I DON'T WANT TO COME IN HERE WHEN WE HAVE A STORM OR SOMETHING BECAUSE WE'RE SO WEATHER CONDUCIVE TO SAY, HERE OUR NUMBERS ARE DOWN BECAUSE THEY'VE REALLY BEEN UP THE LAST THREE OR FOUR MONTHS. IT'S A RESULT OF COURSE CONDITIONS, THE EQUIPMENT WE'VE GOT AND REALLY GOOD WEATHER. PEOPLE ARE NOTICING THE GOLF COURSE IS IN A LOT BETTER SHAPE. THANKS FOR YOUR HARD WORK. THANK YOU. [8. BOARD COMMENTS] YOU HAVE ANYTHING? NO, DOCTOR. NO COMMENTS. YOU DON'T HAVE ANYTHING ELSE? I WOULD LIKE TO THANK GLENN. THAT'S THE FIRST TIME I'VE GOTTEN THE WHOLE PICTURE ON BOR ALVAREZ AND ALL THIS STUFF. I ADMIT I HAVEN'T PAID A LOT OF ATTENTION. BECAUSE IT'S COMPLEX, BUT I REALLY APPRECIATE THE PRESENTATION AND THE EXPLANATION OF ALL THE STUFF GOING ON BEHIND THE SCENES. THANKS. I JUST WANTED TO SAY I WENT TO THE OPENING OF THE LIGHTHOUSE. THAT WAS VERY WELL DONE, SO YOU GUYS DID A GREAT JOB ON THAT EVENT. IT WAS SUPER HOT OUT THERE. BUT IT WAS A GREAT TURNOUT AND THE LIGHTHOUSE LOOKS AMAZING, AND IT'S ONE OF THE REASONS WHY I DON'T COMPLAIN ABOUT MY TAX DOLLARS. THANK YOU FOR ALL THAT YOU GUYS DO TO MAKE GOOD THINGS AROUND HERE. REAL SHORT. FIRST OF ALL, THE MAINTENANCE DEPARTMENT FOR THE PARKS AND REC IS UNBELIEVABLE. THEY GOT THEIR FIELDS FOR THE MAJORITY OF US. THEY REDID A WHOLE BRAND NEW FIELD FOR BABE RUTH WITH IN CONJUNCTION TO CHANGE OVER A GRASS FIELD TO AN ALL PURPOSE FIELD, WHICH WOULD GIVE US THE ABILITY TO HANDLE MORE KIDS AND NOT USE OTHER PARKS, NOT NECESSARY. THANK YOU, SCOTT. PLEASE GIVE LEM OUR BEST. THE BATTING CAGES, THERE WILL BE A CEREMONY AT SOME POINT. SCOTT AND I WILL GET TOGETHER AND PUT TOGETHER AN OPENING DAY CEREMONY FOR THAT. THEY'RE AMAZING. SIMPLY AMAZING. THEY'RE GOOD GLEN PROMISE BUDDY. THEY'RE GOOD FOR 25-30 [LAUGHTER]. BUT THE BOTTOM LINE IS, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WAS ON MY BUCKET LIST TO BUILD THESE BATTING CAGES WAS TO USE PEOPLE FROM NASSAU COUNTY OR FERNANDINA. WE DID NOT GO TO JACKSONVILLE FOR ONE VENDOR. THEY WERE ALL NASSAU COUNTY OR THE CITY OF FERNANDINA. VENDORS. LET ME TELL YOU, IT WAS REALLY A REMARKABLE THING TO WATCH HOW WE USE OUR OWN PEOPLE ON OUR ISLAND THAT ARE SO GOOD AT WHAT THEY DO. I RECOMMENDED HIGHLY GLENN THAT WHEN WE LOOK AT PROJECTS GOING FORWARD, THAT WE CONSIDER, FIRST OF ALL, PEOPLE IN NASSAU COUNTY AS OUR GO TO VENDORS. IN THE LONG RUN THEY'RE IN YOUR I GUESS, INDEX, SO YOU CAN CALL THEM UP AND SAY, WE GOT A PROBLEM. THEY'LL BE THERE. LAST BUT NOT LEAST, THE CITY IS IN A BETTER PLACE EVERY YEAR, WE'RE IN A BETTER PLACE. THIS BUDGET THAT WE JUST SAW FROM THE CITY, FOR PARKS AND REC AND GOLF AND EVERYTHING, WE'RE AT A MUCH BETTER PLACE THAN WE WERE A YEAR AGO. LAST YEAR WE WERE CONCERNED ABOUT THINGS THAT WEREN'T GETTING DONE. THEY'RE GETTING DONE. I WOULD REALLY LIKE TO THANK THE STAFF FOR ALL THEIR ENERGY THEY PUT INTO THIS EVERY DAY. WITH THAT, * This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.