Jun 30, 2025 Waterfront Advisory Board

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YEAH. OKAY I CALL THIS MEETING TO ORDER THE WATERFRONT ADVISORY BOARD.

[1. CALL TO ORDER]

ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.

ONE THING BEFORE WE MOVE FORWARD IS I'D LIKE TO JUST TAKE A MOMENT OF SILENCE TO RECOGNIZE SUANNE THAMM WHO RECENTLY PASSED AWAY. SHE'S A BIG PART OF THIS COMMUNITY.

SHE LIVED HERE FOR QUITE A WHILE. SHE FOUNDED ONE OF THE LOCAL NEWSPAPERS AND REALLY CONTRIBUTED A LOT.

SO LET'S TAKE A MOMENT OF SILENCE ALL RIGHT PROCEED WITH THE ROLL CALL. MEMBER SHARPE.

HERE. COOK. HERE. ROLAND. HERE. MILLS . HERE.

VICE CHAIR NICKOLOFF. HERE. AND MEMBERS ALL RIGHT THANK YOU NEXT ORDER OF BUSINESS IS THE APPROVAL OF MINUTES FROM THE JUNE 4TH, 2025 MEETING.

ANY EVERYBODY HAVE A CHANCE TO LOOK AT THOSE? ANY COMMENTS? ANY CORRECTIONS? IF NOT, I NEED A MOTION TO.

MOTION TO APPROVE. SECOND. I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? AYE. ANY OPPOSED? ALL RIGHT NOT OPPOSED. NEXT ORDER OF BUSINESS IS OUR OLD BUSINESS AND IT'S

[5.1 Brett's Demolition/Replacement]

I BELIEVE WE HAVE A GUEST HERE. THANK YOU MR. NICKOLOFF, JEREMIAH GLISSON, DEPUTY CITY MANAGER FOR THE CITY OF FERNANDINA.

WE ARE GOING TO REVIEW ONE MORE TIME, THE BRETT'S DEMOLITION AND REDEVELOPMENT CONCEPTS PROVIDED BY PASSERO ASSOCIATES.

YOU ALL HAD A CHANCE TO LOOK AT THE LAST MEETING, AND THAT WAS SUBSEQUENTLY DISTRIBUTED TO YOU.

AND WE HAVE SOME ADDITIONAL INFORMATION TO SHARE WITH YOU THAT WE JUST PLUGGED IN HERE A LITTLE BIT AGO. BUT THE GOAL TONIGHT IS TO GET A RECOMMENDATION FROM THE WATERFRONT ADVISORY BOARD TO TAKE TO THE COMMISSION. AND THAT WILL HAPPEN TOMORROW NIGHT.

TOMORROW NIGHT, THE COMMISSION'S MEETING HAVE A WORKSHOP ON TWO THINGS OASIS CONTRACT AND THE BRETT'S DEMOLITION RE-DEVELOPMENT.

AND THEN THE SUBSEQUENT MEETING FOLLOWING THE WORKSHOP WILL BE A WORK ORDER TO BEGIN MOVING FORWARD WITH KNOWN ELEMENTS THAT NEED TO HAPPEN, NOT THE REDEVELOPMENT, BUT THE KNOWN ELEMENTS NEED TO HAPPEN, WHICH IS DESIGN WORK RELATED TO DEMOLITION SERVICES TO THE MARINA SO WE CAN HOP RIGHT IN.

JUST FOR THE RECORD, AND JUST FOR REDUNDANCY WE'LL TAKE A LOOK AT WHAT PASSERO HAS PROVIDED.

AS A REMINDER, THIS IS THEY WERE CHARGED WITH DOING THIS HERE A FEW MONTHS AGO, WHICH IS COMING BACK WITH A FEW CONCEPTS WITH PROBABLE COSTS, NOT ONLY FOR DEMOLITION BUT FOR RE-DEVELOPMENT. AND THESE ARE THE, IT'S A PHASED APPROACH AND THIS IS WHAT'S INVOLVED FOR THAT DEMOLITION.

SOME IMPROVEMENTS HAVE TO BE MADE IT'S A VERY COMPLICATED, CHALLENGING PROJECT.

THE DEMOLITION WILL BE THE REMOVAL OF THE BRETT'S STRUCTURE THEIR PICTURED IS IN BOX THREE.

BEFORE THAT, THERE NEEDS TO BE IMPROVEMENTS AND REHABILITATION TO THE STRUCTURES.

THEY'RE MARKED ONE AND TWO, WHICH IS THE SOUTH SIDE BOARDWALK PIER.

AND THEN THE RELOCATION OF SERVICES UNDER THROUGH THAT STRUCTURE TO FACILITATE THE DEMOLITION.

AND THEN THIS IS JUST AN IDEA OF THE LAYOUT OF THE COMPLEXITY OF THAT DEMOLITION.

AND THIS IS ONCE AGAIN BEEN SHARED WITH YOU ALL. BUT THERE'S A LOT OF STUFF THAT NEEDS TO HAPPEN. YOU'RE LITERALLY RIPPING OUT THE HEART OF A WORKING MARINA THAT'S OVER THE WATER.

SO IT'S A CHALLENGING PROJECT AND THE PRICE TAG REFLECTS THAT.

AND YOU'RE LOOKING AT $3.8 TO $5 MILLION. AND THAT INCLUDES THE REPLACEMENT OF THAT BULKHEAD THERE UNDERNEATH THE BRETT'S STRUCTURE.

AND THEN WE GET INTO THE RE-DEVELOPMENT OPTIONS.

THE FIRST ONE, THE CHEAPEST IS IN A SENSE TO DO NOTHING APPROACH.

BUT THAT IS JUST AS IF BRETT'S JUST WASN'T THERE AND THAT WOULD PROVIDE THAT CONNECTING BOARDWALK AND DOCK RIGHT THERE FROM DOCK A, WHICH IS WHERE YOU SEE THE AMELIA RIVER CRUISES CURRENTLY DOCK CONNECTING THAT DOCK TO THAT SOUTHERN PIER BOARDWALK.

AND THAT'S A PRICE AROUND $300,000 TO $365,000 THAT'S THE PROBABLE COST.

NEXT WOULD BE FILLING IN THAT CONNECTION POINT AND BACK TO LAND AND THAT ELEVATES THAT COST AND THIS IS OPTION 2.

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AND THIS IS THE AND THAT ELEVATES THE PRICE TO ABOUT $1,600,000 OVER THE COST OF DEMOLITION.

NEXT WOULD BE THAT SAME STRUCTURE WITH A PAVILION ADDED ON TO IT.

THAT ELEVATES THIS IS JUST PROVIDING THE CONNECTION PIECE TO DOCK A EXTENSION, AND THEN ALSO DOING AN ELEVATED RESTAURANT ON THE LAND SIDE OF THINGS, AND THAT IS [INAUDIBLE]5 ON TOP OF THE PRIOR COST.

AND THEN HERE IS EVERYTHING THE LAND WARD RESTAURANT WITH PIER AND PAVILION THE MOST EXPENSIVE OF ALL OF THE OPTIONS.

AND THAT'S UP TO $3 MILLION OVER THE COST OF DEMOLITION.

AND THIS IS A CONCEPTUAL RENDERING OF WHAT THAT WOULD LOOK LIKE.

THERE'S YOUR OPEN DECK WITH THE PAVILION, THE RESTAURANT ON LAND, AND OF COURSE, THAT SEA WALL AREA.

NOW, GRANTED, THIS IS A RENDERING THAT WOULD SHOW HOW WOULD LOOK IF THEY CONTINUED, BUT THE SEAWALL THAT WOULD ACTUALLY BE IN PLACE IS JUST A 120 FOOT SPAN.

WHAT'S NEW INFORMATION THAT WE JUST PLUGGED IN AND FOR YOUR AWARENESS IS THIS IS THE COMMUNITY OUTREACH SURVEY.

THAT WAS DONE WE HAD A LITTLE OVER 700 RESPONSES WHEN WE PULLED THIS DATA JUST EARLIER.

AND WE'LL MAKE SURE THIS GETS SENT OUT TO YOU ALL.

WE PLAN TO SHOW THAT TO THE COMMISSION HERE THIS EVENING.

BUT THIS IS THE FEEDBACK THAT WE HAD AS FAR AS WHAT PEOPLE WOULD WANT TO SEE GO BACK.

WHAT HAD THE MOST TRACTION WAS JUST WHAT YOU SAW THERE, WHICH WAS EVERYTHING.

AND THAT WOULD BE THIS RENDERING HERE, WHICH IS THE OPEN DECK, THE PAVILION, THE RESTAURANT.

SO THAT WAS WHAT WAS CHOICE NUMBER ONE THAT WAS WHAT MOST PEOPLE WANTED TO SEE THERE.

NEXT TO THAT, STRANGELY, WOULD BE ALL THE WAY TO THE OTHER END OF THE SPECTRUM, WHICH IS JUST NOTHING.

JUST CONNECT THAT DOCK A AND YOU CAN SEE THAT WAS IN SECOND PLACE BARELY.

BUT JUST SECOND PLACE FOR THE PREFERRED REPLACEMENT CONCEPT.

WE DID ASK HOW WOULD IN THE SURVEY WAS ASKED HOW WOULD YOU PAY FOR IT? AND THE OPTIONS WERE PAID PARKING REVENUE, PROPERTY TAX REVENUE AND THEN OTHER AND I DON'T HAVE THE LIST HERE OF ALL THE OTHER HERE TO PROVIDE, BUT WE COULD PROVIDE THAT AS WELL ONCE WE FULLY CLOSE OUT THE SURVEY.

AND IN THAT OTHER WE HAD A NUMBER OF RESPONSES.

AND THOSE WORDS THERE HIGHLIGHT A AI GENERATION OF WHAT SOME OF THOSE RESPONSES WERE OF HOW ELSE TO PAY FOR TOURISM TAX, PAID PARKING TAX, RESTAURANT PARKING DOWNTOWN.

THESE ARE ONCE AGAIN A I GENERATED OF WHAT WERE THE COMMON WORDS USED IN THOSE 277 RESPONSES.

AND THEN NEXT WE HAD A TOWN HALL THAT WAS ON JUNE 24TH.

LARGELY PAID PARKING WAS THE POINT OF CONVERSATION THERE WITH CONSTITUENTS.

BUT WE DID HAVE NINE SPEAKERS TALK ABOUT THE MARINA EXCUSE ME THE BRETT'S RE-DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION OF SHRIMP FESTIVAL WAS A PRIMARY CONCERN AND DEFINITELY NEEDS TO BE TAKEN CONSIDERATION. A PHASED APPROACH WAS MENTIONED, AND, YOU KNOW, TAKE CARE OF WHATSOEVER WATER FIRST AND THEN ADDRESS WHAT'S ON LAND LATER.

PUBLIC /PRIVATE PARTNERSHIP FOR THE RESTAURANT. EVERYTHING FROM SELLING THE MARINA AND FOCUS ON THE SEAWALL. AND THEN IMPACTS TO THE AMELIA RIVER CRUISES AND THE 35 BUSINESSES THERE AT THE WATERFRONT THAT NEED TO BE TAKEN INTO CONSIDERATION WITH WHATEVER GOES BACK.

SO THAT'S A LITTLE REVIEW OF WHAT YOU'VE SEEN BEFORE.

A LITTLE MORE ADDITIONAL INFORMATION ON THE SURVEY, BUT WHAT WE WANT FROM YOU IS A RECOMMENDATION ON STEPS FORWARD.

THE GOAL IS HERE WITHIN ABOUT 24 HOURS TO PASS THAT ON TO THE COMMISSION SO TO HELP THEM MAKE THEIR DECISION.

SO Y'ALL DID HAVE A CHANCE TO LOOK AT SOME OF THIS ON THE JUNE 4TH MEETING.

AND HERE WE ARE AT THE JUNE 30TH MEETING AND THE GOAL IS TO TAKE A RECOMMENDATION FROM YOU ALL TO THEM.

I KNOW THEY'RE INTERESTED IN WHAT YOU ALL HAVE TO SAY ABOUT THE RE-DEVELOPMENT OF THE BRETT'S AREA.

SO I CAN PAUSE THERE AND IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR ME, PASSERO WILL BE PRESENT HERE TOMORROW AT THE WORKSHOP AND THEN ALSO FOR THE MEETING TO ANSWER ANY TECHNICAL QUESTIONS OR, YOU KNOW, DIVE INTO WHY THIS, NOT THAT OR IF THE COMMISSION CHARGES THEM WITH LOOKING AT SOMETHING FURTHER. ONE THING THAT HAS BEEN EXPRESSED MORE AS OF LATE IS AND LARGELY GENERATED BY MR. MCCARTHY'S CONVERSATIONS. IF YOU HAVE A WORKING MARINA, A WORKING WATERFRONT, HAVING SOME KIND OF BUILDING THERE THAT CAN FACILITATE THOSE BUSINESSES ST. AUGUSTINE HAS AN EXAMPLE OF THAT.

THEY'RE MUNICIPAL MARINA, SO DO SOME OTHER ONES.

BUT A PLACE YOU HAVE A KIOSK DOWN THERE THAT IS USED.

BUT IF YOU HAD A BUILDING THERE THAT WAS MADE PART OF THIS PLAN, NOT A LITTLE SHED OPTION THAT WAS OFF TO THE SIDE, BUT IF YOU HAD A BUILDING THERE THAT COULD INCORPORATE A RESTROOM, INCORPORATE YOU KNOW, HELPING THOSE 35 BUSINESSES DOWN THERE OPERATE, SELL TICKETS AND PROVIDE INFORMATION THAT WOULD BE OF VALUE.

SO THAT'S BEEN A GREAT PAUL, FOR ANY ADDITIONAL INFORMATION THAT YOU MAY NEED FROM US AND PROCEED WITH YOUR CONVERSATION.

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SOMEWHERE BETWEEN $200,000 AND $500,000 DEPENDING.

YEAH IT'S A RANGE BUT YEAH RIGHT AT $900,000 TO $1,100,000 AND $1,300,000 TO $1,600,000 SO IT'S CLOSE OKAY. AND HAS ANYBODY, YOU KNOW? AS I LOOK AT THAT MARINA STORE DOWN THERE, THERE'S ALREADY SPALLING THAT'S OCCURRING UNDERNEATH THAT STRUCTURE.

ARE WE LOOKING AT THAT AT THE SAME TIME AT ALL? I MEAN, WE SHOULD IF WE'RE NOT. BUT I KNOW THAT'S KIND OF LATE IN THE GAME TO BRING THAT UP.

BUT THEY'RE GOING TO BE OUT THERE DOING CONCRETE WORK.

I WOULD HATE TO HAVE TO COME BACK A YEAR FROM NOW OR TWO YEARS FROM NOW AND WORK ON THAT STRUCTURE TOO.

BUT YOU CAN LOOK AT IT RIGHT NOW AND YOU CAN SEE CONCRETE FALLING IN THE WATER.

THAT HAS BEEN DISCUSSED. JUST TALK UP. BUT YEAH, THAT HAS BEEN I MEAN, I THINK THEY SHOULD LOOK AT THAT BEFORE THEY COME UP TO A FINAL CONCLUSION BEFORE YOU DO THE FINAL CONTRACT.

THEY SHOULD LOOK AT THAT SO THAT WE'RE NOT HAVING THEM OUT THERE AGAIN AND TRYING TO, YOU KNOW, TO RELOAD THAT ALL THAT STUFF OUT THERE. YEAH.

I PERSONALLY, I THINK WE SHOULD GO BACK WITH THE FOOTPRINT OF BRETT'S AND YOU KNOW IT'S MUCH MORE DIFFICULT EVEN COME BACK OUT THERE TO DO THAT REPAIR WORK. BUT TO COME BACK OUT AND ADD ON TO THAT IS A MUCH BIGGER CAT TO SKIN THAN JUST GETTING IT DONE NOW AND A LOT MORE EXPENSIVE TO BRING THE BARGES BACK IN AND THE TIMBERS AND ALL OF THAT STUFF.

SO IF WE'RE GOING TO DO IT, I WOULD HOPE THAT WE WOULD JUST GO AHEAD AND PUT THE FOOTPRINT BACK IN FOR BRETT'S.

I DON'T THINK THE CITY COMMISSION HAS ANY APPETITE FOR WORKING ON A RESTAURANT RIGHT THERE.

THEY'RE HUNG UP ON SOME OTHER STUFF RIGHT NOW THAT THEY PROBABLY DON'T WANT HAVE ANY ROOM FOR THAT ON THEIR PLATE.

BUT THAT PART THAT WE CAN DO ALL AT ONE TIME, I THINK.

SO YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE FOOTPRINT OF BRETT'S HAVING THE DECK SPACE OUT AND THAT'S BUT TO GO BACK OUT AND ADD MORE DECK SPACE WOULD BE A MUCH MORE DIFFICULT THING TO DO TO BRING IN CRANES AND ALL THAT OTHER STUFF.

BUT IF WE'RE GOING TO DO THE DECK, I THINK IT JUST WOULD MAKE MORE SENSE TO FINISH IT.

AS OPPOSED TO LATER, BECAUSE WE WON'T BE ABLE TO DO IT LATER.

ANY EXPANSION TO THE AVAILABILITY OF MARINA SLIPS IS AN EXCELLENT OPTION.

THE EXTENSION OF A HAS TO BE DONE. I'M INTERESTED TO SEE NOT IN A RESTAURANT ON THE LANDWARD SIDE.

CAN WE MOVE THAT INTO THE IDEA OF A MAYBE A SMALLER FOOTPRINT BUILDING TO ACCOMMODATE THE CHARTER CAPTAINS, A MARINA STORE, INSTEAD OF HAVING MULTIPLE KIOSKS, HAVE AVAILABILITY FOR THEM TO COME IN AND SET UP THEIR LITTLE AREAS FOR SOMEBODY TO WALK INTO A DRY PLACE TO TALK TO EITHER A CAPTAIN OR A MAID OR SOMEBODY TO HAVE A FULL SERVICE TYPE AREA.

BECAUSE, QUITE FRANKLY, WE'VE GOT A COUPLE OF VACANT BUILDINGS IN DOWNTOWN FERNANDINA THAT COULD HOUSE ANOTHER RESTAURANT PRETTY EASY.

WE GOT ONE RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET, SO I'M MORE INTERESTED, IN WE ACCOMMODATE THE WORKING WATERFRONT BUSINESSES IN A SMALLER FOOTPRINT IF WE CAN DO THAT. CAN WE DO THAT TO SCALE, TO HELP MOVE THOSE BUSINESSES ALONG THAT CAN HELP THEM INCREASE THEIR FOOTPRINT IN THE BUSINESS DOWN THERE? I MEAN, IT'S POSSIBLE, I WOULD THINK.

I MEAN, CAN WE THINK ABOUT THAT AS OPPOSED AUGUSTINE WHERE THERE'S A SHIP STORE OR SOMETHING SMALLER

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OBVIOUSLY WHEN YOU'RE DOING THE DEMOLITION OVER WATER, YOU WANT TO ALREADY HAVE THE PERMIT IN HAND TO KNOW WHAT YOU'RE GOING TO DO NOT ONLY FOR DEMOLITION, BUT TO BUILD BACK. IF YOU HAVE THAT EQUIPMENT THERE [LAUGHTER], YOU KNOW YOU WANT TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THAT.

THOSE CRANES AND STUFF THAT ARE IN PLACE. BUT LANDWARD YEAH, THAT COULD ABSOLUTELY BE A SECOND PHASE.

MATTER OF FACT, WHAT'S GOING TO COMMISSION TOMORROW NIGHT IS PHASE ONE.

PHASE ONE IS PREPARING EVERYTHING TO BE TORN DOWN.

WE'RE NOT EVEN TALKING WE DON'T EVEN HAVE THE WORK ORDER YET FOR PHASE TWO, BECAUSE WE DON'T KNOW WHAT PHASE TWO AND OR PHASE THREE WOULD LOOK LIKE. BUT WE'RE TRYING TO GET PREPARED TO KNOW WHAT THAT WOULD LOOK LIKE SO THAT WE'RE NOT GOING TO LOSE INERTIA AS THIS PROBLEM, YOU KNOW, PROJECT MOVES ALONG. WELL, WE'LL HAVE EVERYTHING LAID OUT AND READY TO GO RIGHT AFTER DEMOLITION.

SO YEAH, THAT'S ABSOLUTELY COULD BE A CONSIDERATION. AND IT'S SOMETHING THAT, YOU KNOW, THIS BOARD WANTS TO LOOK INTO THEN WE COULD PASS THAT ON IF THAT WAS A FORMAL RECOMMENDATION FROM THIS BOARD, WE WOULD PASS ON TO THE COMMISSION. BUT I JUST THINK IT MAKES SENSE TO HELP BUSINESSES DOWN IN ONE PARTICULAR EVEN A RESIDENT COULD GO WALK INTO THAT BUILDING AND WHETHER IT'S ALLEN'S CHARTERS OR SOMEBODY ELSE DOWN THERE THAT HAS A CHARTER.

WE'LL GET INFORMATION ON THE MARINA FROM OASIS THEMSELVES TO SORT OF KIND OF NOT THE CHAMBER OF COMMERCE OR SOMETHING FULL SERVICE FOR THE MARINA ITSELF TO HANDLE THE WORKING WATERFRONT, IF THAT'S WHAT WE WANT IT TO BE, KIND OF MAKE SENSE TO ME. AND YOU HAVE IF YOU LOOK AT, YOU KNOW, 80% OF BRETT'S IS OVER THE WATER.

SO YOU ONLY HAVE A LITTLE PORTION OF IT ON LAND, BUT YOU HAVE THIS ENTIRE AREA HERE UTILIZED YOU KNOW? WHAT CAN YOU DO WITH THAT TO BETTER ACCOMMODATE EVERYTHING FROM POSSIBLE PARKING TO THE BUILDING LIKE YOU JUST MENTIONED OR A RESTAURANT YOU HAVE YOU HAVE ROOM HERE TO MAKE IT WORK.

I MEAN, IF YOU LOOK AT THE FOOTPRINT OF BRETT'S, YOU HAVE JUST THAT AMOUNT OF ROOM ON LAND JUST EAST OF THE COASTLINE THERE, THE SEAWALL THERE. SO THERE IS OVER THE LAND THAT WAS THE WATER BECAUSE I CAN PROMISE YOU THE CITY COMMISSION IS NOT GOING TO TAKE THAT UP RIGHT NOW.

THEY ARE ABOUT THIS DEEP IN ONE OF THEIR OTHER STUFF SO I THINK WE JUST NEED TO GIVE THEM A RECOMMENDATION ABOUT WHAT WE THINK NEEDS TO HAPPEN ON THE ON THE WEST SIDE GET MORE INFORMATION AND TAKE A LOOK AT IT AND FIND OUT WHAT I THINK WE JUST NEED TO STAY FOCUSED ON WHAT HAS TO HAPPEN RIGHT NOW AND WHICH IS THAT LAND AND I WOULD HATE TO SEE THEM DO HALF A PROJECT, HALF THE DECK, WHEN IT'S SO EASY JUST TO FINISH IT OFF DOWN THERE AND HAVE SOMETHING THAT'S GOING TO BE HERE FOR GENERATIONS IT'S THE WATERFRONT IT'S WHAT WE SHOULD BE FOCUSED ON.

IT IS WHAT WE'RE FOCUSED ON HERE BUT THAT'S WHAT OUR CITY REVOLVES AROUND THAT WATERFRONT.

SO I WOULD SAY THAT WE SHOULD TAKE THIS IN PHASES WE SHOULD BUILD WHAT WE CAN OUT THERE, REPLACE THAT FOOTPRINT.

AND THEN AS THAT COMES TOGETHER, WE HAVE SOME TIME TO DECIDE WHAT HAPPENS NEXT.

[INAUDIBLE] THE REASON WE'RE DOING THIS IS TELL ME AGAIN WHY.

I MEAN, I KNOW THE BUILDING IS ROTTEN CONCRETE AND ALL THAT THERE.

BUT WHAT I UNDERSTOOD IN THE PAST CONVERSATIONS WITH YOU AND OTHER PEOPLE WAS WE'RE TEARING IT DOWN TO CREATE MORE FLOW.

IS THAT NOT CORRECT? THAT'S DEFINITELY A BENEFIT OF THAT YEAH.

WELL, YOU HAVE TWO STRUCTURES UNDERNEATH BRETT YOU HAVE THE OLD WELCOME STATION A STRUCTURE AND THEN YOU HAVE THE BRETT STRUCTURE BUILT ON AND AROUND IT AND YOU HAVE YEARS OF ACCUMULATED DEBRIS UNDER IT, TOO. SO, I MEAN, IT'S EFFECTIVELY A DAM.

YOU CAN YOU KNOW, YOU SEE THE WATER, HOW IT BEHAVES DOWN THERE, AN OUTGOING TIE.

BUT EFFECTIVELY IT WAS A DAM. AND WE WOULD ONE OF THE THINGS THAT PASSERO IS GOING TO MAKE SURE IS INTO THE SPEC IS DREDGING IS A PART OF THAT DEMOLITION.

SO YOU'RE NOT JUST TAKING OUT THE BUILDING AND THE STRUCTURE, BUT YOU'RE REMOVING ALL THAT DEBRIS DOWN AND, YOU KNOW, YEARS AND YEARS OF DECADES OF DEBRIS THAT'S DOWN THERE AT THE BOTTOM AS WELL.

SO BE A DREDGING OPERATION, TOO BUT. SECOND QUESTION BRETT'S PROTECTED THE BIGGEST PART OF THAT DOCK ANYWHERE ELSE AND YOU'VE NOTICED YOU'VE BEEN AROUND THE NORTH SIDE OF IT EVERY STORM HAS GOT TORN UP.

HOW MUCH HIGHER? I DIDN'T SEE HOW MUCH HIGHER THIS DECK IS GOING TO BE, OR IS IT GOING TO BE THE SAME HEIGHT AND YOU DON'T HAVE BRETT'S PROTECTING THE REST OF IT LIKE

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SO WHAT ESSENTIALLY PASSERO WAS RECOMMENDING IS USING THAT EXISTING HEIGHT FOR A CHASE, REALLY LIKE A CONDUIT FOR ALL OF YOUR SERVICES, AND THEN BUILDING ON TOP OF ABOVE.

YOU'RE UNDER YEAH I MEAN, WE'VE SEEN THE DECK COVERED IN WATER WITH BLUE SKIES YEAH I MEAN, IT NEEDS TO BE RAISED.

WHAT ABOUT DOING THE OPTION 2A , WHERE YOU GO FROM A DOCK OVER TO E JUST INSIDE E DOCK THERE LIKE YOU HAVE THAT ALL THAT JUST FOR DECKING AND ALL.

AND THEN YOU HAVE ALL THAT FLOW CONTINUOUSLY.

ON THE ONE PICTURED HERE RIGHT? YES, SIR TIME. BUT NOW YOU GET YOU HAVE THIS IT HELPS YOU FLOW.

YOU'RE NOT CONSTRICTING THE FLOW OF THE WATER AS MUCH AND YOU HAVE PLENTY OF DOCKING, MORE DECKING SPOT PLACE THAN WE EVER HAD BEFORE FOR THE PEOPLE TO USE.

AND IF YOU WANT TO PUT ERNIE'S RESTAURANT THERE ON THAT, OR IF YOU WANT TO DO A KIOSK, WHATEVER MAKES THE BEST MONEY FOR THE CITY SO THAT THEY DON'T HAVE TO PAY MORE MONEY TO KEEP THE MARINA AFLOAT IS WHAT I WOULD GO WITH.

THAT'S JUST MY SUGGESTION. FOR BEING DOWN THERE FOR SINCE 85, I THINK IT'S A GOOD ONE.

ANYBODY ELSE? ANYBODY? YEAH I'M CONCERNED ABOUT THE PERMITTING IF YOU STAY WITHIN THAT OLD FOOTPRINT OF THE BRETT'S AND THE OLD WELCOME STUFF THAT'S OFTEN THE PERMITTING ISSUE. IF YOU GO OUTSIDE THAT, THEN YOU'RE GOING TO CREATE A WHOLE OTHER PROBLEM.

IF YOU DON'T GET IT NOW, YOU'RE GOING TO LOSE IT. IF YOU EVER HAVE ANY INTENTIONS OF BUILDING OUT.

THE PERMITTING, NOT KNOWING IF THE CITY COMMISSION WOULD HAVE A DECISION BY THE TIME, YOU KNOW, THE PERMITTING GOES OUT BECAUSE YOU DON'T WANT TO DO IT AND THEN TRY TO INCREASE THE SIZE.

SO I MEAN THE INTENT IS FOR PASSERO TO MOVE FORWARD WITH PERMITTING THE LARGEST AVAILABLE.

BECAUSE ONCE AGAIN, IT'S EASIER TO DO THAT AND PULL IT BACK THAN THE OTHER WAY.

AND I MEAN THAT WAS THAT'S ALL FULLY WITHIN THE BRETT'S FOOTPRINT. NOW THAT WAS THE IDEA IS TO NOT GET OUTSIDE THAT FOOTPRINT BECAUSE IT DOES CREATE SOME CHALLENGES. YES, SIR OKAY. FOLLOWING UP ON ALLEN'S DISCUSSION FURTHER OUT IN IT'S ALL RIGHT THERE. IT'S ALL IN THE FOOTPRINT WERE TALKING ABOUT EARLIER, IF YOU IF WE GO DOWN THAT ROUTE AND UNDER DEMOLITION THAT YOU SEE THE ENGINEERS COME BACK AND SAY WE THINK THE FULL DECK MAY IMPEDE THE WATER FLOW, AS ALLEN SUGGESTED.

CAN WE THEN DROP BACK TO THAT SIZE? IF YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT PERMITTING THE FULL SIZE AND THEN SCALE IT BACK TO SOMETHING LIKE THAT? THERE WOULD NEED TO BE A FLOW ANALYSIS AT SOME POINT, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE AS YOU'RE GETTING FURTHER TO THE WEST, YOU'RE GETTING FURTHER OUT INTO, YOU KNOW, THE MOVING CHANNEL.

SO, I MEAN, OF COURSE, GOING BACK WITH SOMETHING DIFFERENT.

PASSERO HAS SUGGESTED, YOU KNOW, CYLINDRICAL PILINGS VERSUS ANYTHING, YOU KNOW, RECTANGULAR AND THAT WOULD HELP THE FLOW.

SO, I MEAN, AND ALSO WRAPPING THEM IN A CLADDING THE PILINGS SO THAT YOU DON'T GET THE BUILDUP OF DEBRIS AND ALL THAT ALSO CONTRIBUTES TO DISTURBING THE FLOW.

SO THAT'S A THAT'S AN ENGINEERING QUESTION. I MEAN, THAT DEFINITELY IS A FACTOR.

YOU KNOW, THE FARTHER OUT YOU GET, THE MORE YOU'RE PUTTING. I MEAN, ALL THE, THE ENTIRE MARINA HAS, YOU KNOW, GUIDE POLES UP AND DOWN. AND SO, I MEAN, ADDING ANOTHER HOWEVER MANY I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT WOULD DO TO THAT FLOW, BUT THE ENTIRE BREAKWATER ATTENUATOR HAS YOU KNOW, THREE FOOT WIDE GUIDE POLES EVERY, EVERY 20FT, 30FT OR SO. RIGHT? SO. ALLEN, IS THAT GOOD DRIVE UNDER [OFF] THERE? YES. A CERTAIN PART OF THAT IT DOES DRY UP. YES. WELL THAT'S GOING TO CHANGE THAT'S GOING TO SOLVE A LOT OF THE PROBLEM RIGHT THERE OUT TO WHERE BRETT GOING TO WORK AND MOVE IT IN. SO YOU'RE SUGGESTING JUST KEEPING THAT

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RIGHT. THAT 'S TWICE AS MUCH DECK AS THEY'VE EVER HAD, OR ACTUALLY THREE TIMES MORE DECK THERE THAT'S TRUE WHAT'S THE SQUARE FOOTAGE OF THAT? I WAS JUST ABOUT TO ASK I DON'T HAVE THAT BUT I WAS GOING TO ASK IF JAKE COULD GRAB THAT.

I'M SAYING YOU COULD GRAB THE TOOL, MAYBE WITHIN GIS AND IF YOU WERE TO SPLIT, BRETT'S IN HALF AND JUST KIND OF ROUGH OUTLINE.

WHAT DOES THAT GIVE US DIMENSIONS WISE? BECAUSE THAT IS A CONSIDERABLE AMOUNT OF DECK.

YOU CAN I MEAN, I CAN VISUALIZE IT RIGHT NOW.

I'M DOWN AT THE ARENA THAT'S WHAT IT IS THERE. SO ANYTHING WEST OF THAT IS WHAT YOU WANT TO GO BACK IT'S KIND OF LIKE SITTING RIGHT THERE YEAH. AND IT WAS 40FT AT THAT TIME. YEAH. SO WOULD THERE BE ANY CONTEMPLATION OF PUTTING MORE DOCK SPACE IN THAT VACANT AREA OR YOUR THEORY IS JUST LEAVE IT OPEN? WHATEVER THEY WANT TO DO THAT'S KIND OF WHAT I WAS THINKING TOO. YOU MEAN YOU CAN RUN A DOC I DON'T KNOW IF YOU DO THE MATH. WHAT DO YOU HAVE THERE? THAT'S PRETTY SIZABLE COULD LIKE YOU SAID, YOU COULD RUN A DOCK RIGHT THERE ON THE WEST SIDE OF THAT TO GET MORE MONEY REVENUE FOR THE MARINA.

YEAH. I MEAN, IT SOUNDS LIKE IT'S 50 BY 100 OR SOMETHING THAT'S ABOUT THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT? YEAH, A SMALL AMOUNT SO ABOUT 50FT WIDE AND ABOUT A HUNDRED OR SO FEET LONG IS UP.

WELL I'M NOT OPPOSED TO THAT. HOWEVER, I STILL THINK IT WOULDN'T BE A TERRIBLE IDEA TO HAVE THAT OTHER DECK SPACE OUT THERE AND AVAILABLE FOR EVENTS AND THINGS THAT HAPPEN DOWN THERE.

YOU COULD ACTUALLY PUT I MEAN, YOU COULD PROBABLY DO BOTH THINGS THAT WE WERE TALKING ABOUT.

YOU COULD AT SOME POINT HAVE A RESTAURANT ON THE LAND AND HAVE THOSE WITH ENOUGH DECK SPACE OUT THERE TO CREATE SOMETHING FOR THE CAPTAINS AND THOSE TICKETING THINGS RIGHT OUT THERE ON THAT DECK.

I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THEM USE THAT FOR THEIR USAGE, TO BUILD SOME BUILDINGS OUT THEREON THE DOCK ITSELF OR UP? ON THE DOCK. YEAH, NOT ON WHEN YOU COME DOWN CENTER STREET, YOU GET RIGHT THERE WE DON'T NEED A FOOD COURT.

THAT'S RIGHT I MEAN, THAT'S THE UPLINE THING SO I MEAN, WE CAN TALK ABOUT ANOTHER.

I MEAN, I KNOW WE GOT TO TALK ABOUT IT, BUT THIS DOCKING AND EVERYTHING IS WHAT.

ONCE IT GETS TORN OUT AND YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? AND YOU'RE GOING TO MOVE THE RIVER CRUISE BOATS YOU GOT TO MOVE.

I MEAN, THEY MOVED DOWN TO G DOCK BEFORE. I MEAN, YOU GOT TO MOVE THIS HOUSE BECAUSE THOSE BARGES ARE GOING TO COME RIGHT IN THERE.

THAT'S WHERE THEY COME IN BETWEEN A AND B DOCK.

IF YOU WENT WITH OPTION 2A LIKE YOU SAID, I MEAN, IF YOU WANTED TO EXTEND OR CREATE A NEW DOCK OFF THERE, YOU DON'T WHICH LOOKS LIKE IT MIGHT BE. IT JUST, YOU KNOW, IF YOU WENT WITH THE FULL FOOTPRINT, THEN THAT TAKES THAT OPTION AWAY. RIGHT AND YOU GET MORE BOATS AND IT KEEPS THE FLOW GOING TOO SO I MEAN, IT HELPS THE MARINE OUT ITSELF AND YOU SAVE, YOU KNOW, HALF A MILLION DOLLARS SO. SO I THINK 5500FT² IS A GOOD AMOUNT OF SPACE.

AND THERE'S ENOUGH ROOM FOR A GAZEBO THEY WANT ONE THERE.

RIGHT AND I READ YOUR THE MINUTES FROM THE LAST MEETING.

I WASN'T HERE AND SOMEBODY MADE THE SUGGESTION OF WIRING ELECTRICAL BOXES OR OUTLETS THROUGHOUT THERE.

RIGHT I THINK THAT'S A GOOD IDEA. I THINK, I MEAN, I FORESEE THIS SPACE AS BEING USED, YOU KNOW, FOR PEOPLE JUST TO STROLL DOWN THERE AS AN OPEN SPACE.

BUT I ALSO SEE IT AS FOR SPECIAL EVENTS WHERE WE CAN SET UP EITHER FOOD TENTS OR SOMEBODY WOULD COME IN OR MAYBE EVEN SHRIMP FESTIVAL, PUT THE FOOD PART THERE, PERHAPS. AND THEY WOULD HAVE OUTLETS TO PLUG INTO THAT AND PROVIDE THAT

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I THINK PEOPLE ARE GOING TO BE WALKING OUT THERE WITH BENCHES THEY'RE NOT GOING TO WANT TO SIT IN THE SUN ALL THE TIME.

SO I THINK OFFERING THAT TO IS ALSO I THINK A NEED.

WELL, NOW THAT YOU BROUGHT UP THE DIMENSIONS 50 BY 100 LOOKS A LOT BETTER THAN THE SIX INCHES THAT ARE UP THERE. [LAUGHTER] IT'S ONLY THAT BIG.

IF YOU LOOK AT I MEAN, YOU GO TO BRETT'S ALL THE TIME YOU LOOK HOW HUGE THAT PLACE IS.

I MEAN, THAT'S A LOT OF DOCK. YEAH. THERE I MEAN AND ALSO YOU CAN UTILIZE THE FOOTING FOR MORE SLIPS AS WELL.

AND THE PUBLIC GETS A BIG DECK OUT ON THE WATER LIKE THEY WANTED AND SLIPS I GET A NEW.

IF THEY DO THAT, I'D LIKE THEM TO GO AHEAD AND CONSIDER SOME MORE SLIPS.

THEN, LIKE I SAID, IF YOU'RE GOING TO DO IT, BE OUT THERE WITH THE CRANES AND PUTTING IN THE PYLONS AND ALL THAT YOU MIGHT AS WELL PUT THE PYLONS DOWN THERE. DON'T GO BEYOND THAT AT LEAST GET THAT STUFF IN THERE THAT YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE A CRANE TO DO, YOU KNOW. JUST I MEAN, I DON'T DISAGREE WITH THAT THOUGHT AT ALL, BUT YOU KNOW, WE'RE ALWAYS CLAMORING FOR MORE STRIPS OR MORE SLIPS.

AND IF THAT IS THE THOUGHT THAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A SPACE FOR MORE SLIPS DOWN THERE.

JEREMIAH, DOES THIS BED, WHAT TYPE OF MATERIAL FOR THE BOARDWALK WERE THEY USING IN THEIR ESTIMATE HERE? OH, NO, IT WAS JUST A TIMBER PIER I MEAN, IT WAS JUST TIMBER.

YEAH SEE OR WE HAVE TO RE, YOU KNOW, THAT'S GOING TO CREATE A WHOLE TON OF MAINTENANCE.

YEAH THE ONLY THING THAT THEY SPECIFIED THAT THEY WANTED TO PURSUE WAS THAT, ONCE AGAIN, THE PILINGS BEING CYLINDRICAL CONCRETE ENCASED IN AND I FORGET WHAT THE PRODUCT IS, BUT THAT CODING SYSTEM TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY WERE, YOU KNOW, THE PILINGS WERE GOOD FOR 50, 60 YEARS. SO THEY'RE CONCRETE I AGREE, I THINK A NICE TIGHT BOARD BUT THE DOCK ITSELF IS GOING TO BE TWO FEET HIGHER THAN IT IS.

THIS. YES I MEAN THE SOUTHERN. THE SOUTHERN, UNLESS THERE'S SOME UNDISCOVERED HOLES THAT I'M NOT AWARE OF AND THIS WOULD BE SOMETHING THEY COULD PROVIDE MORE INFORMATION ON. BUT THE SOUTHERN DECK WOULD BE, WOULD BE LIFTED 2 FOOT.

SO YEAH, TO MATCH THAT ELEVATION, THE WHOLE DECK WOULD NEED TO.

BECAUSE IF IT'S NOT, IF IT'S NOT, DON'T BRING IT UP 2 TO 3FT THEY'RE GOING TO GET TORN UP IF WE GOT A STORM FOR SURE.

YEAH, JUST LIKE LAST TIME THE ONLY THING THAT SAVES EVERYTHING ELSE IS BRETT.

ALL RIGHT, ANY MORE DISCUSSION? ARE SOMEBODY READY TO MAKE A MOTION FOR ANY KIND OF A RECOMMENDATION TO THE COMMISSION? CHAIRMAN, I MAKE A MOTION THAT WE GET A RECOMMENDATION OPTION 2A TO BE SUBMITTED AS OUR RECOMMENDATION FOR THE INITIAL RE-DEVELOPMENT. OKAY I HAVE A MOTION ON THE TABLE.

SECOND? SECOND. AND I HAVE A SECOND, DISCUSSION? ONLY THAT I WOULD RECOMMEND THAT WE AT LEAST TAKE A LOOK AT REQUIRING THINGS TO HAVE ELECTRICITY OUT THERE AND THAT I MEAN, THAT DOESN'T HAVE TO GO ON THE MOTION BUT BARRED WHILE WE HAVE THE CRANES OUT AND EXPLORING THE USE OF A SYNTHETIC LUMBER YES. RIGHT. THAT AS WELL. YEAH. ALRIGHT I KIND OF THINK THAT SHOULD BE IN THERE WITH OUR RECOMMENDATIONS OTHERWISE.

WELL, IF WE CAN PUT THAT, WHOEVER'S DOING THAT FOR US SHE'S STEADILY WRITING I'M SURE SHE'S. WELL, WE DO HAVE A MOTION.

SO I'LL ACCEPT THAT AS PART OF THE MOTION. OKAY SO THAT'LL BE PART OF THE MOTION THE INITIAL MOTION.

SECOND ON THAT? I'LL SECOND THAT. OKAY WE HAVE A SECOND.

ANY MORE DISCUSSION ON THAT? NO. OKAY ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. ANY OPPOSED? GREAT. GREAT I'LL BE HAPPY TO SAY THERE'S UNANIMOUS SUPPORT WITH MOVING FORWARD WITH THIS OPTION SO WE'LL SHARE THAT TOMORROW NIGHT.

AND WE'LL LOOK BACK AT THE MINUTES HERE AND MAKE SURE WE IT CAPTURE EVERYTHING THAT YOU ALL THANKS, JEREMIAH. YES, SIR. ALL RIGHT NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS OASIS MARINA CONTRACT RENEWAL.

[5.2 Oasis Marina Contract Renewal]

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BUT THIS IS A CONSIDERATION OF THE OASIS MARINA MANAGEMENT SO OUR CONTRACT WITH THEM IS ALREADY COMING TO A CLOSE.

IT WAS A FIVE YEAR CONTRACT THAT WENT IN PLACE DECEMBER OF 2020 THE CONTRACT DOES CALL, AND I WILL READ IT INTO THE RECORD.

BUT THE TERM OF THIS AGREEMENT COMMENCES ON THIS EFFECTIVE DATE, WHICH IS DECEMBER OF 2020 AND CONTINUES THROUGH THE DATE THAT IS FIVE YEARS FROM THE EFFECTIVE DATE, UNLESS IT'S SOONER TERMINATED PURSUANT TO SECTION 4 BELOW OR EXTENDED PURSUANT TO SECTION 3.

NOTWITHSTANDING ANYTHING TO THE CONTRARY HERE AND CONTAIN THIS AGREEMENT WILL CONTINUE UPON EXPIRATION.

I WANT TO DRAW YOUR ATTENTION UPON EXPIRATION OF THE TERM FROM YEAR TO YEAR UNLESS EITHER PARTY GIVES WRITTEN NOTICE TO EACH OTHER AT LEAST 120 DAYS PRIOR TO THE END.

SO BASICALLY, WHAT'S IN THE CONTRACT NOW IS IF WE DO NOTHING, THEN THE CONTRACT WITH OASIS WILL ROLL OVER ANOTHER YEAR AND CONTINUE TO DO SO UNTIL EITHER PARTY PROVIDES WRITTEN NOTICE AT 120 DAYS PRIOR YOU BACK UP FROM DECEMBER.

HERE WE ARE THAT'S WHY WE'RE HAVING THIS CONVERSATION THEN THIS IS THE JUNCTURE THAT WE WOULD DO THAT AT.

THERE ARE THREE PATHS IN FRONT OF US ONE IS TO DO NOTHING JUST THAT AND OASIS WILL CONTINUE ON MANAGEMENT YEAR TO YEAR.

AND WE WOULD HAVE THIS CONVERSATION AGAIN NEXT YEAR AT THIS TIME.

OPTION TWO WOULD BE TO GO OUT FOR RFP AND OBTAIN PROPOSALS FROM ALL THE OTHER MARINE AND MANAGEMENT COMPANIES.

I THINK I CAN SPEAK ON BEHALF OF STAFF TO SAY THAT'S NOT RECOMMENDED JUST BECAUSE OF EVERYTHING THAT WE HAVE.

LET'S BACK UP TO A FEW MINUTES AGO EVERYTHING WE HAVE GOING ON WITH THE MARINA.

IT WOULDN'T BE, IT WOULD BE IN POOR TASTE TO GO OUT AND SAY, HEY, COME MANAGE OUR MARINA BUT WE'RE TEARING IT APART.

YOU KNOW, HERE IN JUST A FEW MONTHS. THAT WOULD REALLY NOT BE A GOOD START OFF TO THE CONTRACT AND ALL THE NUMBERS WE HAVE WOULD BE SKEWED BECAUSE WE KNOW THERE'S GOING TO BE AN IMPACT ON MARINA OPERATIONS. AND THEN THE OTHER OPTION IS TO BRING IT IN-HOUSE AND TO MANAGE THE MARINA INTERNALLY AS WHAT WAS DONE BEFORE.

SO REALLY THERE'S YOUR THREE PATHS IN FRONT OF YOU, AND WE'RE LOOKING FOR A RECOMMENDATION TO TAKE TO THE COMMISSION TOMORROW NIGHT.

WHAT'S THE DURATION OF THE CONTRACT? IS IT FIVE YEARS? FIVE YEARS START IN 2020 AND IT ENDS THE END OF THIS YEAR.

AND UNLESS WE WANT TO DO SOMETHING DIFFERENT, THAT'S WHY WE GOT TO MAKE A DECISION 120 DAYS OUT.

SO I HAD A QUESTION ON THE MARINA, THE DEBT SERVICE, AND I KNOW IT DOESN'T PERTAIN SPECIFICALLY TO THE CONTRACT HERE, BUT I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO GET A SENSE OF WHAT WE OWE ON IT.

AT THE TIME OF THE CONTRACT WITH OASIS, IT WAS AROUND $6 MILLION, IS WHAT IT SAID, RIGHT? WHICH FIVE YEARS LATER MEANS WE ONLY HAVE PROBABLY ABOUT A MILLION LEFT, AND WE'VE BEEN PAYING ABOUT A MILLION A YEAR.

WE'RE PAYING ABOUT $700, $775,000 A YEAR? YEAH $770,000,000? YEAH DEBT SERVICE A YEAR. THIS JUST CAME UP TODAY I DON'T HAVE THE DATE WHEN IT'S GOING TO BE PAID OFF BUT WE'RE NOT FAR.

WE'RE JUST WE'RE JUST I WANT TO SAY 2028, 2029.

DON'T QUOTE ME BUT. YEAH OUTSIDE OF THE DEBT SERVICE, THE MARINA DOES CURRENTLY OPERATE ANNUALLY YOU KNOW, IT OPERATES IT COVERS EXPENSES. ANY OTHER CHANGES IN THIS CONTRACT FROM THE PREVIOUS CONTRACT? WITH WESTROCK? WITH OASIS. WE'VE ONLY BEEN WITH OASIS SINCE 2020, SO THERE'S NO CONTRACT WE'VE HAD I KNOW, BUT THIS IS IT. THIS IS THE EXACT SAME THING WE'RE JUST DUPLICATING? OKAY WE PAY THEM $4,000 A MONTH, WE PAY THEM 1.5% OF THE GROSS, NOT THE NET.

SO THEY NEVER HAVE TO MAKE MONEY. WE PAY FOR EVERYTHING THEY DO, INCLUDING THE OASIS UNIFORMS THAT SAY OASIS MARINA ACROSS THE TOP.

AND WE HAVE GREAT STAFF HERE I'M A BIG CATHY SUPPORTER SHE DOES A GREAT JOB AND OUR STAFF THERE IS GOOD.

BUT THERE'S A I DON'T KNOW OF ANYTHING THAT THEY BRING CORPORATELY TO THE TABLE THAT WE WOULD MISS AT ALL IF THEY WERE NOT HERE.

WE PAY THEM I DON'T KNOW IF JEREMIAH CAN TELL US ABOUT WHAT THAT IS OR MAYBE YOU CAN EXPAND UPON SOMETHING THAT YOU THINK THEY BRING CORPORATELY TO THE TABLE.

THAT WE WOULD, I THINK WOULD BE PRETTY SEAMLESS IF WE GOT RID OF THEM WE COULD RETAIN OUR PEOPLE.

IT COST US IT'S A THERE'S A PENALTY COST US $25,000 TO KEEP CATHY AND SHE'S WORTH EVERY PENNY.

[00:40:06]

BUT THAT WOULD JUST BE ONE MORE YEAR THAT WE DIDN'T MAKE THE MONEY THAT WE COULD.

WE COULD DO SIGNIFICANTLY LESS BUSINESS AND NET MORE MONEY.

OUR GROSS COULD BE LESS, AND WE WOULD NET MORE BECAUSE WE'RE NOT GIVING THEM ONE.

THEY'RE GROSS EXCLUDES FUEL SALES, WHICH EXPLAINS SOME OF THE TIMES THAT WE HAVE BEEN GONE MONTHS WITHOUT FUEL.

NO CORPORATE PARTNER THAT DEPENDED ON THOSE FUEL SALES WOULD EVER LET US GO SIX MONTHS WITHOUT FUEL AT OUR MARINA THAT'S CRAZY SO.

BUT THAT WAS MORE WHEN YOU WERE ON THAT BOARD TOO THAT WAS MORE TOWARDS SUPPLY ISSUES AND OTHER THINGS THAT WERE OUT OF OUR YOU'D HAVE THAT THING 3D PRINTED FOR LESS MONEY THAN THAT SO I JUST THINK THAT THE RIGHT TIME IS NOW. I THINK IT WOULD SAY SOMETHING TO BY THE CITY COMMISSION WHO'S UNDER THE GUN FOR EXPENDITURES AND MONEY THAT WE SPEND WE COULD PROBABLY DO IT IF, IT DEPENDS, IF WE HAD LESS BOATS, WE'D HAVE TO HAVE LESS STAFF.

THEY COULD TAKE A LOOK AT THE STAFF THEY COULD WORK WITH CATHY, FIND SOME OTHER MONEY SAVING OPPORTUNITIES THERE.

BUT IN MY MIND, THERE IS NO REASON AT ALL TO KEEP OASIS ON BOARD.

SOMEBODY WORKED THE NUMBERS, THOUGH? WITH THE NUMBER OF EMPLOYEES, EMPLOYEES THAT WE DO AND COMPARED TO YEAH. SO THERE WOULD BE AN INCREASED COST TO STAFF, ESPECIALLY IN THAT FIRST YEAR AS MEMBER SHARPE MENTIONED, THERE ARE PENALTIES THAT WE'D HAVE TO PAY FOR ACQUIRING THOSE STAFF SO THAT THE FIRST YEAR THERE WOULD BE A NET INCREASE IN COST TO THE CITY.

NOT MUCH, BUT THERE WOULD BE ONE. AFTER THAT THERE WOULD BE, YOU KNOW, SAVINGS REALIZED, BUT THERE WOULD BE INCREASING COSTS FOR THE CITY EMPLOYEES WITH THE BENEFITS PROGRAM, IT COSTS MORE ON PAYROLL.

YOU GOTTA LOOK AT TOTAL COMPENSATION, NOT JUST THE WAGE, ALL THE BENEFITS.

YEAH LOADED BENEFITS PACKAGE YEAH, IT'S A INCREASE AFTER WE SPEND, AFTER WE TERMINATE THIS CONTRACT AND WE EMPLOY CATHY AND WE'LL STILL MAKE MONEY, WE WON'T MAKE AS MUCH, BUT NEXT YEAR WE WILL SEE SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT YES? [LAUGHTER] YES NO? I'M DELIBERATING [LAUGHTER]. MEMBER MILLS THE ANALYSIS THAT WE PERFORM AT THIS POINT IS THERE WOULD BE SAVINGS.

YES THANK YOU. I DON'T PUT A PRICE TAG ON IT YET, BECAUSE THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS THAT OASIS PROVIDES.

AND IF YOU WERE TO BACK OUT OF THAT IT WOULD MEAN THERE NEED TO BE SOMETHING FILLED IN LATER.

EVERYTHING THAT WE THEY PROVIDE, WE PAY FOR. WE PAY IT WAS AT ONE TIME $60,000, AN ADVERTISEMENT THAT WAS A WASTE OF MONEY.

I MEAN, THAT MARINA PAYS FOR ITSELF EVERYBODY KNOWS THEY WANT TO COME HERE, THE FUEL AND EVERYTHING WHEN WE DO HAVE FUEL, WE HAVEN'T HAD FUEL FULL YEAR SINCE THEY'VE BEEN THERE.

AND THAT'S DUE THEY DON'T MAKE A DIME OFF OF IT.

THEY JUST DO NOT HAVE TO DEAL WITH THAT BECAUSE THEY CAN DO SOMETHING ELSE MY OPINION.

THE SNAG-A-SLIP IS COSTING US MONEY I THINK THE CITY WOULD MAKE A LOT MORE MONEY, AND THE MARINA ITSELF WOULD BE BETTER OFF WITHOUT IT.

ESPECIALLY WHAT WE HAVE COMING UP IN FRONT OF US.

AND WE NEED TO MAKE MONEY BECAUSE WE MIGHT LOSE A FEW SLIP HOLDERS FOR TEMPORARY TOO.

WITH ALL THIS GOING ON, WE WON'T BE REALISTIC HOPEFULLY THEY CAN MOVE EVERYBODY AROUND AND TAKE IT IN-HOUSE. MEMBER ROLAND I KNOW Y'ALL SPEAK VERY HIGHLY, CATHY, BUT YOU CAN'T DO IT ALL BY HERSELF.

YOU KNOW? I WOULD HATE FOR US TO DO SOMETHING THAT WOULD DECREASE THE AMOUNT OF STAFF PEOPLE THAT SHE HAS AVAILABLE TO WORKING WITH HER.

IF WE CAN SAY WE TERMINATE OASIS, BUT SHE KEEPS THE SAME AMOUNT OF STAFF BECAUSE IT'S GOING TO TAKE A LOT OF JOCKEYING AROUND AS WE GO FORWARD WITH THIS NEW RE-DEVELOPMENT.

SHE'S GOING TO HAVE HER HANDS FULL DOWN THERE, SO I WOULDN'T WANT TO DO ANYTHING TO JEOPARDIZE THE AMOUNT OF STAFF PEOPLE THAT SHE HAS AVAILABLE TO DO THIS WORK. NOW, MIKE, YOU'VE MENTIONED A LOT OF THAT ABOUT STAFFING AND SO AS ALLEN.

ARE WE SURE WE CAN CARRY THAT GOING FORWARD? THAT WAS DONE ON SEVEN EMPLOYEES THEY HAD SEVEN FULL TIME EMPLOYEES.

CORRECT? NINE. NINE FULL TIME EMPLOYEES. SO WE WOULD STAY AT NINE THERE WOULD BE A WAY TO MAYBE CHANGE THE ORGANIZATIONAL STRUCTURE THERE TO PEEL BACK SOME OF THE COSTS AND BENEFITS, YOU KNOW, GOING FORWARD, THAT THAT IS A CONSIDERATION. YOU COULD ALMOST INCREASE HEADCOUNT IF YOU HAD MORE PART TIME PERSONNEL AND YOU WEREN'T PLAYING THOSE BENEFITS TOO AT A REDUCED COST BY REDUCING SOME OF THE FULL TIME HEADCOUNT.

SO THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WOULD IF THE CITY CHOSE TO GO THAT WAY, YOU KNOW, THAT WOULD NEED TO BE EXPLORED.

[00:45:05]

AND YOU HAVE, BUT THE OTHER GUYS, YOU DON'T HAVE TO PAY FOR THE DOCKING THERE'S NO COST FOR THOSE SO IF SHE WANTED TO KEEP THE SAME PEOPLE, IT COSTS US $35,000.

THAT IS CORRECT. IT WOULD COST AND THE OTHER GUYS COULD STAY AND PLUS, WHEN THIS HAPPENS, IT'S OFF SEASON TWO. SO IF WE LOSE 1 OR 2, IT'S SLOW THEY GOT TIME TO PICK IT UP.

SO ALL THIS IS GOING TO HAPPEN AT A GREAT TIME OF THE YEAR.

OKAY, MORE DISCUSSION OR SHOULD WE SOMEBODY WANT TO MAKE A MOTION FOR A RECOMMENDATION? I'VE GOT A QUESTION FOR JEREMIAH DOWN EDGE AND DARK EDGE? IS THERE SOMETHING THEY CAN KICK BACK TOWARD THE CITY? CAN THEY PENALIZE THE CITY FOR LACK OF REVENUE? IS EVERYTHING HIDDEN IN THAT CONTRACT? WE'VE MADE IT VERY CLEAR WE HAD TO SIT DOWN WITH THE UPPER MANAGEMENT TEAM WITH OASIS HERE A COUPLE OF MONTHS AGO ON APRIL, AND TALKED THROUGH EVERYTHING THAT WAS COMING.

THEY REAFFIRMED THEIR COMMITMENT TO THIS CONTRACT.

YOU KNOW, WE'RE IMPORTANT TO THEM THEY MADE THAT VERY CLEAR.

AND THEN THEY ADJUSTED THEIR NUMBERS, THEY WERE GOING TO ADJUST THEIR NUMBERS TO REFLECT THAT.

THEY KNEW THERE WOULD BE AN IMPACT TO REVENUE FOR A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF TIME. WE WOULD MAKE SURE THAT BEFORE IT AUTO ROLLED OVER, WE WOULD PUT THAT IN WRITING, YOU KNOW, MAKE SURE THAT WAS IS A KNOWN THAT THERE IS GOING TO BE AN IMPACT.

BUT NO, NO, OUR CURRENT AGREEMENT DOESN'T CAUSES ANY PENALTY FOR REVENUE HAVING SOME KIND.

WE WOULDN'T BE THE FIRST ONE TO DROP THEM EITHER, BECAUSE THEY WERE LIKE UP TO OVER 20 SOMETHING OR EVEN HIGHER THAN THAT WHAT MARINAS.

NOW THEY'RE DOWN TO LIKE 15. HOW MANY MARINAS DO Y'ALL MANAGE NOW, CATHY? 16. SO I MEAN, IT'S DROPPED SIGNIFICANTLY SINCE WE'VE BEEN ON BOARD.

SO I'M SURE THEY'RE GOING TO THROW YOU A COUPLE OF BONES JUST TO TRY TO KEEP US.

AS I SAID THOUGH, YOU KNOW, EVEN WITH US HAVING A PROBABLY SOME REDUCED REVENUE BECAUSE OF OUR CONSTRUCTION PLAN, WE'LL PROBABLY STILL NET MORE MONEY. YES. YOU KNOW, BECAUSE THE TAKING A LUMP SUM OFF THE GROSS.

I MEAN, I'D LIKE TO HAVE THAT CONTRACT EVEN WHEN I WAS ON THIS BOARD FIVE YEARS AGO HOWEVER LONG IT WAS, THE AGREED WAS IF WE LOST OASIS, WE WOULD BE $145,000 AHEAD OF THE GAME.

REALLY? AND I MEAN, THEY WERE TALKING ABOUT MAKE MONEY FOR THE CITY.

THAT'S THE BIGGEST WAY TO SAVE THE CITY MONEY AND HELP THE MARINA.

SO I MEAN, IT'S A NO BRAINER FOR ME.

YEAH I'M ALL IN FAVOR OF SAVING AND MAKING MONEY FOR THE CITY, BECAUSE DEFINITELY I MEAN, WE PUT THE TAXPAYERS HERE, PUT ENOUGH MONEY SUBSIDIZING THAT ARENA.

SO IF THERE'S ANY WAY THAT WE COULD GENERATE MORE REVENUE THIS EXCEPT FOR THE FUEL ISSUE, I THINK MY OPINION IS WORKING.

I DON'T WORK DIRECTLY WITH OASIS LIKE YOU DO DOWN THERE, BUT FROM THE BOARD POSITION, THEY SEEM TO BE DOING A FAIRLY GOOD JOB. EXCEPT FOR THE FUEL I'LL GIVE YOU THAT.

WHAT THEY'RE DOING THE FAN. AND THEN [INAUDIBLE] YOU'LL GET A CONFIRMATION FROM SNAG-A-SLIP THEY'RE ANSWERING THE PHONES THEY'RE DOING THE WORK, BUT YET THAT PORTION OF THAT MONEY GOES TO SNAG-A-SLIP . AND THAT'S SPEND THAT KIND OF MONEY. HOW MUCH MONEY THEY SPEND AT THE GOLF COURSE IN ADVERTISEMENT? ALL RIGHT LET A MARINA MANAGEMENT COMPANY HAS THE MARKETING ABILITY THAT THE CITY DOES NOT THEY HAVE THEIR MARINA NETWORK AS JUST MENTIONED.

THEY HAVE, YOU KNOW, 16 MARINAS AND MORE AND THEY HAVE THE APPS, YOU KNOW, THE SNAG-A-SLIP INTERFACE AND THEY HAVE THAT THAT THE CITY DOES NOT.

NOW, AT A CERTAIN POINT, YOU KNOW YOUR ASSET MARKETS ITSELF, YOU REALLY DON'T NEED TO.

BUT I MEAN, THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WAS A CONSIDERATION BOTH WITH WESTROCK AND THEN NOW WITH OASIS IS THEY HAVE THAT REACH THAT'S THEIR SPECIALTY THAT'S WHAT THEY DO THEY'RE IN THE MARINA BUSINESS. AND SHOULD THE CITY BE IN THE MARINA BUSINESS? YOU KNOW, IF YOU HAVE GOOD PERSONNEL AND GOOD HELP, THAT MAKES IT A MUCH EASIER TASK.

BUT SHOULD THE CITY BE IN THE MARINA BUSINESS WHEN YOU HAVE PROFESSIONALS OUT THERE TO NOT MANAGE MARINA? SO THAT WAS JUST FOR CONTEXT THAT IS THAT IS WHY, A SIGNIFICANT REASON WHY OASIS WAS SELECTED IS THEIR ABILITY TO MARKET OUR MARINA.

DO YOU THINK ACL HAS BEEN POOR IN HERE BECAUSE OF MARKETING BY OASIS OR JUST BECAUSE WE'RE FERNANDINA?

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AND THAT HURT OUR BUSINESS. ONCE THEY HEARD THAT WE WERE OPEN, THEY STARTED COMING AGAIN, THE BOATS. SO I TEND TO AGREE WITH THAT. THEY COME AND THEY A LOT OF THEM WENT TO THE MARINA RESTAURANT WE DON'T HAVE A LOT OF COMPETITION FROM ANYWHERE I MEAN.

NO. [LAUGHTER] IT'S A GREAT FEELING. WE KNOW.

IT'S A GREAT FUELING POINT AND THEN FROM HERE TO CHARLESTON I MEAN, IT'S OKAY SO ANYBODY WANT TO MAKE THAT MOTION OR A MOTION ON THE RECOMMENDATION PUT FORWARD TO THE COMMISSION? I'LL MAKE A MOTION THAT WE TERMINATE THE OASIS CONTRACT AND RETAIN THE PRIMARY PEOPLE CATHY AND HER ASSISTANT MANAGER, WHOEVER THAT IS AT THE TIME AND SECOND? DO WE HAVE A SECOND? SECOND. AND WE HAVE A SECOND.

ANY MORE DISCUSSION? OKAY NO DISCUSSION. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE, AYE. ANY OPPOSED? ALL RIGHT WE GET PASSES, SO MOVE FORWARD.

STAFF REPORTS, CITY STAFF AND MARINA MANAGER REPORTS THIS NEXT ITEM,

[6.1 City Staff and Marina Manager Reports]

AND YOU'LL GET YOUR MARINA REPORT SHORTLY AFTER THAT, WHICH WILL HAVE THE FINANCIALS FOR JUNE SO NO REAL UPDATE THERE.

WE HAVE THIS MONTH WE'VE CELEBRATED NATIONAL CLEAN MARINA DAY ON JUNE 21ST.

THIS IS A GREAT OUTREACH EVENT THAT WE DO ANNUALLY.

WE LIKE TO COINCIDE THAT WITH THE CROSS THE LINE KAYAK PADDLE EVENT.

SO LOTS OF ENERGY AT THE MARINA WE'VE GOT OUR VOLUNTEERS IT'S JUST A REAL ENERGETIC EVENT.

IT'S A LOW COST EVENT TO THE CITY WE HAD A LOT OF T SHIRTS LEFT OVER FROM LAST YEAR AND THE LITTLE PICKER UPPERS.

SO IT'S A LOW COST EVENT IT'S A GREAT COMMUNITY OUTREACH AND THAT WAS A SUCCESS.

WE COLLECTED ALMOST 50 POUNDS OF TRASH AND THIS IS NOT MARINA TRASH THIS IS UPLAND TRASH WATERFRONT TRASH THAT YOU KNOW, FIND IN THE MARSH ALONG THE BOARDWALK. WE ARE WRAPPING UP OUR CAPITAL WE HAVE A CAPITAL PROJECT THAT WE'RE WRAPPING UP.

I MENTIONED THAT AT THE LAST MEETING. WE'RE WORKING ON THE PURCHASE ORDER FOR NEW PEDESTALS ON THE ATTENUATOR.

THIS WAS A BUDGETED ITEM, AND THIS IS GOING TO BE A FANTASTIC IMPROVEMENT TO THE MARINA ATTENUATOR DOCK DOWN THERE ON D DOCK YOU'VE GOT, YOU KNOW, 4 OR 5 SECTIONS OF 200 AND 300 FOOT OF DOCK WITH NO PEDESTALS.

IT'S JUST THE WAY IT WAS LAID OUT. AND THE LINES HAVE TO GO ACROSS THE DOCK TO THE EAST SIDE OF THE DOCK.

IF YOU WANT TO GET POWER, IT'S JUST REAL PROBLEMATIC.

SO THE HOPE IS, WITH WHAT WE'VE BUDGETED, WE CAN ADD FOUR NEW PEDESTALS TO THE ATTENUATOR IT'S A GREAT PROJECT.

WE ALREADY HAVE THE LATERAL TROUGHS BOARD, SO THERE'S NOTHING TO BORE FROM THE MAIN TROUGH WE'RE WORKING HARD ON THAT.

THOSE IF ALL GOES WELL, WE'LL GET THOSE PEDESTALS DELIVERED MID AUGUST AND WE'RE CONTRACTING WITH OUR ELECTRICIANS TO GET THOSE INSTALLED.

THE PUMP OUT BOAT GRANT WAS SUBMITTED. WE ARE WORKING THROUGH THAT WITH THE CITY AND THE DEP TO GET THAT APPROVED AND FINALIZED.

ALL THOSE DETAILS WE'RE ROLLING THAT PROJECT OVER TO NEXT YEAR FOR A NEXT YEAR DELIVERY ON THE PUMP OUT BOAT.

MEANWHILE, OUR EXISTING PUMP OUT BOAT HAS GOTTEN A COMPLETE MAKEOVER.

SHE WENT TO THE YARD, OUR STAFF PRESSURE WASH THE BOTTOM DID THE BOTTOM JOB.

THEY PAINTED THE BOTTOM, SAVING THE CITY MONEY ON THE BUDGET FOR A BOTTOM JOB, WHICH WAS GREAT NATE DID AN AWESOME JOB WITH THE TEAM.

WE BUFFED THE HULL WE'VE GOT NEW STICKERS ON HER.

THE OUTBOARD NEEDED A LITTLE WORK, SO SHE'S IN TIP TOP CONDITION.

THE PUMP MOTOR ITSELF HAD TO BE SENT TO EMP, WHICH IS OVER IN TAMPA IT NEEDED SOME WORK.

IT'S BACK SO THE BOAT SPLASHED THIS AFTERNOON AT HIGH TIDE.

WE'RE HOPING TO GET THAT PUMP MOTOR BACK IN HERE TOMORROW AND TAKE A LOOK AT HER, BECAUSE SHE LOOKS REALLY GOOD.

LOOKING AHEAD FOR THE REST OF THIS MONTH AND INTO JULY, OF COURSE, WE HAVE THE 4TH OF JULY.

WE'RE ALMOST BOOKED WE HAVE ABOUT 50 BOATS SO FAR FOR THAT 5 OR 6 DAY STRETCH.

WE'RE WORKING ON A RENDEZVOUS WITH MARINE MAX OUT OF JACKSONVILLE.

THAT'S GOING TO BE AN END OF THE MONTH EVENT, HELPING THOSE FOLKS MAKE THEIR RESERVATIONS TO COME AND SEE US.

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WE'D LOVE TO GET A PICTURE OF YOU AND YOUR DOG DOWN AT THE DOCK, AND WE'LL FEATURE YOU ON INSTAGRAM.

THAT'S MY UPDATE IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, I'M HAPPY TO TAKE THOSE THIS TIME.

ANY QUESTIONS OF CATHY? NOPE? ALL RIGHT THANKS I APPRECIATE THAT.

ALL RIGHT NEXT ITEM IS CRA PROPERTY MATRIX. AND THAT WAS INCLUDED IN THE PACKET WITH UPDATES

[6.2 CRA Property Matrix]

SO THAT'S THE 83 PROPERTIES THAT ARE WITHIN THE CRA AND WE JUST CONTINUALLY UPDATE THAT.

SO JUST A REVIEW AND WE'LL DO THAT EVERY YOU KNOW, EVERY MONTH WILL PROVIDE THAT AND IF THERE ARE SIGNIFICANT UPDATES TO HIGHLIGHT WILL HIGHLIGHT THEM. BUT THERE REALLY JUST WEREN'T THIS TIME.

ANY QUESTIONS ON THAT? ANY OF THE MEMBERS? NO? ALL RIGHT THANK YOU LET'S MOVE ON. PUBLIC COMMENT REGARDING ITEMS NOT ON THE AGENDA.

[7. PUBLIC COMMENT REGARDING ITEMS NOT ON THE AGENDA]

GOOD EVENING, PAUL LORE, 11 SOUTH SEVENTH STREET, FERNANDINA BEACH, FLORIDA.

ALWAYS THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO BE ABLE TO COMMUNICATE ONE I REALLY TO START OFF, I'D LOVE TO COMMEND YOU FOR THE DECISION THAT YOU MADE JUST NOW AND SAVING MONEY.

THAT'S REFRESHING TO SEE AND TO HEAR. AND I THINK EVEN IF IT DIDN'T GO WELL, WHICH I HAVE A FEELING IT WILL GO WELL AT LEAST YOU MADE AN ATTEMPT AT IT, A GENUINE ATTEMPT, AND I THINK THAT'S HIGHLY COMMENDABLE.

I'M GOING TO TURN BACK FOR CATHY, BECAUSE I'D LIKE TO JUST EXTEND MY THANKS PERSONALLY TO HER FROM MY EXPERIENCE TO HER AND HER STAFF AT THE MARINA.

AND I GO, AS A FREQUENT MARINA USER, I WOULD GO IN VERY CONFIDENTLY KNOWING THAT HER AND WHOEVER SHE'S LEADING WE JUST WE'RE JUST IN GOOD HANDS.

AND IF THINGS KIND OF GO WRONG, I'M SURE SHE'LL CORRECT IT ALONG WITH EVERYBODY ELSE.

THE OTHER PIECE THAT I JUST WANTED TO COME UP HERE ABOUT IS THE BOAT RAMP AND THAT'S JUST IN TWO ASPECTS.

AND I WISH JEREMIAH DIDN'T LEAVE BECAUSE I WOULD LIKE TO GET A SOLID ANSWER.

ONE OF THEM I KNOW IS GOING TO TAKE SOME COLLABORATIVE DISCUSSIONS BETWEEN YOU, THE COMMISSIONERS, AND I THINK OUR LOCAL LAW ENFORCEMENT. THE OTHER ONE IS WHEN THE CONSTRUCTION DOES START, I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW, IS THAT BOAT RAMP GOING TO REMAIN OPEN OR THERE GOING TO BE SOME PARTIAL CLOSURES TO THAT? SO THAT'S ONE QUESTION. PAUL THE EXCUSE ME SORRY.

NO THAT'S OKAY.

SO THAT SHOULD NOT BE IMPACTED. AND SO THERE WON'T BE, LIKE, CONSTRUCTIONS EVEN AT THE BOAT TRAILERS THOSE WILL STAY OPEN? RIGHT. THERE'LL BE NO CONSTRUCTION VEHICLES? RIGHT IT'S PRIMARILY GOING TO BE UP IN LOT A I THINK WILL BE IMPACTED BECAUSE OF THE FUEL TANK.

NO THAT'S GREAT, THAT'S GREAT NEWS, THANK YOU, MISS LISA I APPRECIATE IT [LAUGHTER] AND I STILL LOVE YOUR CUPCAKES [LAUGHTER].

AND THE OTHER PART [LAUGHTER] ON THE OTHER PART IS HOPEFULLY SOMEWHERE ALONG THE LINE WE CAN OPEN A DISCUSSION FOR THE HOURS OF THE BOAT RAMP. I DO, I'VE ALREADY WROTE THE CITY COMMISSIONERS JUST FOR THE INITIAL STEP AND THE CITY MANAGER.

I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THE HOURS 24 HOURS, OR I WOULD LIKE TO BE PART OF AT LEAST A LITTLE BIT OF A DISCUSSION TO FIGURE OUT WHAT IS SIGNIFICANT THAT KEEPS PEOPLE FROM PARKING AT THE BOAT TRAILERS DURING.

YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE TRAILER PARKING? NOT SAYING I'M THE NORM FOR EVERYBODY, BUT THERE'S TIMES WHERE I WILL WANT TO USE AND ACTUALLY, I CAN TELL YOU, I HAD FRIENDS, I DIDN'T KNOW IT, AND WE VIOLATED IT.

THEY HAD A ROAD TEAM COME OUT HERE AND THEY WENT ON A FIVE DAY TRIP, AND WE LEFT THEIR TRAILER CART .

YOU KNOW? [LAUGHTER] , YOU KNOW I REALLY LED THEM ASTRAY.

BUT I JUST LIKE TO KIND OF KNOW THE SIGNIFICANCE FOR THAT, BECAUSE I'LL GIVE YOU AN EXAMPLE.

I WENT OUT THE OTHER DAY AND I PADDLED FROM HERE TO JEKYLL ISLAND.

I LEFT LIKE IN THE MORNING, BUT I DIDN'T LEAVE OUT OF HERE I LEFT OUT OF DEE DEE BARTELS.

AND THERE IS A HUGE DIFFERENCE IN WHERE YOU CAN LEAVE, AND ESPECIALLY FROM THE VESSEL THAT I HAVE THAT AREN'T POWERED BY SAIL OR MOTOR.

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SO THAT'S ALL I'M JUST KIND OF BRINGING I THINK IT'D BE A WORTHY DISCUSSION BETWEEN THE CITY AND LOCAL LAW ENFORCEMENT, TO FIND OUT IF THERE'S ANYTHING THAT CAN KIND OF BREATHE AND BREAK UP WITH THAT.

BECAUSE EVEN WHEN I WENT DOWN TO DEE DEE BARTELS, I LEFT AT 5:00 AM IN THE MORNING AND I THOUGHT, OH, I WAS GOING TO BE THE ONLY ONE OUT THERE. MEANWHILE, HERE COMES A BIG FREIGHTER COMING IN, PILOT BOATS WERE OUT THERE, SIX FISHING BOATS WERE [LAUGHTER] GOING OUT THERE.

AND, YOU KNOW, IT'S PACKED SO IT IS, YOU KNOW, SO IT IS USED AND I UNDERSTAND THAT WE HAVE DEE DEE BARTELS, YOU KNOW, TO USE. BUT I ALSO FEEL VERY PASSIONATELY ABOUT OUR CITY.

I HAVE A PICTURE FROM LAST SUNDAY AFTERNOON AT 5:30 PM, WHEN EVERY ONE OF THOSE TRAILER SLIPS WERE TAKEN OUT BY VEHICLES WITHOUT BOATS YEAH. AND I DO KNOW SOMEONE IT COULDN'T LAUNCH HIS BOAT BECAUSE HE THE RAMP IS CLOSED AND THAT WHEN THOSE TRAILER SLOTS ARE FULL.

SO I REALLY THINK WE NEED TO GET INVOLVED WITH ENFORCEMENT AND BETTER SIGNAGE.

I THINK THAT NEEDS TO BE A TOW AWAY ZONE. PEOPLE WILL RISK GETTING THE TICKET THEY WILL NOT RISK GETTING TOWED.

SO THOSE FEW SLIPS IN THERE NEED TO BE DEDICATED TO OUR FISHING COMMUNITY OR OUR WATERFRONT COMMUNITY.

WE TALK ALL THE TIME ABOUT WORKING WATERFRONT, AND THEN WE LET CARS PARK ALL IN IN THE SLIPS UP THERE THAT JUST A FEW OF THEM THAT, THAT WE COULD HAVE FOR BOAT TRAILERS. YEAH AND I'LL CONFIRM I'M WITH YOU MEMBER SHARPE WHEN I WENT TO GO PICK UP THE MOST RECENT ROAD TEAM THAT WAS IN THIS WEEK, IT WAS A COUPLE FROM TEXAS. WHEN I WENT THERE, I ACTUALLY COUNTED THERE WERE ONLY TWO BOAT TRAILER SLOTS THAT WERE LEFT, AND ONE WAS OCCUPIED BY A BUS AND THE OTHER WAS JUST COMPLETELY EMPTY SO.

BUT I DON'T WANT TO GO LONG, BUT I REALLY APPRECIATE IT.

AND MAYBE YOU ALL, AT SOME TIME DURING ONE OF YOUR MEETINGS CAN JUST HAVE A DISCUSSION ABOUT THE BOAT RAMP WITH ITS ASSOCIATED PARKING SPACES THANK YOU.

THANK YOU, MR. LORE. CAN WE MAYBE PUT THAT ON THE AGENDA FOR NEXT MEETING TO DISCUSS THAT? I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT. I AGREE WITH YOU THAT SOMETHING NEEDS TO BE DONE MR. CHAIR? YES GO AHEAD. THANK YOU MIKE LEDNOVICH WITH THE FERNANDINA OBSERVER 124 NORTH FOURTH STREET.

SO AN AGENDA ITEM ATLANTIC SEAFOOD AND ERNIE SALTMARSH.

YEAH UNDER THE REVISED LEASE AGREEMENT HE WAS SUPPOSED TO BRING PLANS FOR A RESTAURANT ON THE AGREED CURRENT FOOTPRINT OF THE EXISTING ATLANTIC SEAFOOD BUILDING BY X DATE THAT HAS NOT HAPPENED. CITY MANAGER SARA CAMPBELL ADDRESSED THIS IN JANUARY.

MR. SALTMARSH, NO ONE HAS HEARD FROM HIM. HE HAS NOT PRODUCED ANY PLANS AS REQUIRED BY THE LEASE.

THERE'S NO ACTIVITY FOR A NEW STRUCTURE. SO I THINK, IN MY OPINION, IT'S A PERFECT SUBJECT FOR THIS BOARD TO ADDRESS OF WHAT IS THE STATUS OF THAT LEASE.

AND MR. SALTMARSH'S PLANS TO REPLACE THAT BUILDING.

YOU HAVE YOU MENTIONED THE THAT HE WAS SUPPOSED TO PROPOSE A FOOTPRINT PER THE LEASE BY AN EXISTING DATE. IS THAT IN WRITING SOMEWHERE? THAT'S IN THE LEASE YES RIGHT NOW HE IS IN VIOLATION OF HIS LEASE.

I WILL SAY THAT MIKE, IT'S THE CRA IT'S THE WATERFRONT. WHAT'S HAPPENING WITH THE PLANS FOR A RESTAURANT? JUST A POINT. I THINK THAT WOULD IT'S THE CITY ATTORNEY ISSUE THEN IT NEEDS TO BE TERMINATED. SURE THANK YOU GENTLEMEN.

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HE'S PAYING HIS BILLS AND EVERYTHING. YES, SIR BUT THE REQUIREMENT OF THE LEASE WAS PLANS FOR A REPLACEMENT STRUCTURE.

YES OVER MY PAY ALL RIGHT THANK YOU. OH, HE'S PAYING THAT BILL WE'RE GETTING THAT MONEY.

OKAY. ANY MORE SPEAKERS? ANYBODY ELSE? ALL RIGHT.

BOARD MEMBER REPORTS AND COMMENTS START DOWN THERE, MR.

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THANK YOU. MR. SHARPE. NO SIR. MR. COOK? YEAH THERE'S GRANT MONEY THAT'S COMING UP FROM THE STATE IS $4 MILLION.

IS IT GOING TO BE SENT TO US OR SENT TO THE CITY? WE DID RECEIVE SOME GOOD NEWS THIS AFTERNOON FROM OUR GRANTS ADMINISTRATOR.

SO YOU ALL ARE THE FIRST TO KNOW THAT [LAUGHTER].

IS THAT MONEY GOING TO BE SPENT ON SOME OF THIS DEMOLITION? CAN IT BE SPENT OR FOR FLOOD I BELIEVE IT'S ALL RELATED TO THE FLOOD WALL I DON'T KNOW. BUT THAT WOULD SOFTEN UP SOME OF THAT EXPENSE? CORRECT. BECAUSE YOU GOT TO REDO YEAH I MEAN, THE COST OF THE FLOOD WALL UNDERNEATH THE FOOT WALL FOOTPRINT OF BRETT'S IS I ASSUME THAT THAT'S PART OF PAST ROSE PROJECTION OF FUNDS. RIGHT? EXACTLY AND THAT'S PRESUMABLY YES, YEAH BUT THAT IS WHY THE COST OF THE DEMOLITION WENT UP OVER WHAT WAS INITIALLY EXPECTED WAS BECAUSE OF THE REPLACEMENT FOR THAT BULKHEAD THAT HAS TO HAPPEN.

THAT'S GOOD NEWS. SO THAT IS GOOD NEWS.

I HAVE A COUPLE THINGS ONE FOR THE BOARD HERE I'D LIKE TO PROPOSE WE HAVE PUBLIC COMMENT RIGHT NOW DOWN AT NUMBER SEVEN. I'D LIKE TO PROPOSE THAT WE MOVE IT TO MAYBE JUST BEFORE OLD BUSINESS AFTER THE APPROVAL OF OUR MINUTES.

THE REASON WHY IS SOMETIMES SOME OF THE DISCUSSIONS, AS WE SEE WE CAN GO PRETTY LATE AND A LONG TIME AND TAKE A LOT OF TIME, AND THESE PEOPLE ARE KIND ENOUGH TO COME AND PARTICIPATE AND SPEAK.

AND I THINK IT'S WE SHOULD GIVE THEM THAT OPTION TO SPEAK FOR US IF THEY LIKE AND NOT HAVE TO WAIT THROUGH ALL OUR BUSINESS.

I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE MOVE IT TO RIGHT AFTER THE APPROVAL OF MINUTES.

ABOUT THE CHAIR CAN'T MAKE THAT MOTION. OKAY.

ONE OF US WILL. OKAY [LAUGHTER]. HOW ABOUT WE MOVE IT BEFORE APPROVAL OF MINUTES? OKAY. WE'RE RIGHT AFTER IT. WHICH IS YOUR PREFERENCE? APPROVE THE MINUTES FROM THE BEGINNING, FROM THE LAST MEETING SO DO IT AFTER THAT.

YEAH. YEAH. SO RIGHT BEFORE OLD BUSINESSES IS.

CORRECT SECOND? SECOND. SECOND. ANY DISCUSSION? ANY MORE? ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. AYE. ANY OPPOSED? GREAT PASS THANK YOU.

AND THE LAST THING I HAVE IS I JUST WANT TO THANK CATHY FOR THE TIME THAT I'VE WORKED SENTIMENT THAT WAS TALKED ABOUT TODAY YOU'RE DOING A GREAT JOB WE HAVE CONFIDENCE IN YOUR ABILITIES AND KEEPING THAT MARINA GOING.

AND I HOPE THAT IF THE COMMISSION DOES TAKE A RECOMMENDATION TO TERMINATE THE CONTRACT WITH OASIS, I HOPE THAT THERE'S A WAY THAT WE CAN RETAIN YOUR SERVICES BECAUSE WE'D BE IN GOOD HANDS.

SO THAT'S ALL I HAVE. OUR NEXT MEETING DATE IS MONDAY, JULY 28TH AT 6:00 PM.

AND WITH THAT, WE'RE ADJOURNED. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.