Apr 08, 2025 Parks & Recreation Advisory Committee

>> PARKS AND RECREATION ADVISORY COMMITTEE.

[1. CALL TO ORDER]

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PLEASE CALL THE ROLE.

>> MEMBER SPAULDING.

>> HERE.

>> MEMBER PEARLSTINE. MEMBER COCCHI.

>> HERE.

>> SORRY. CHAIR CAMERA?

>> HERE.

>> VICE CHAIR MOUNTJOY.

>> HERE.

>> MEMBER CURRY.

>> HERE.

>> MEMBER GUNN.

>> HERE.

>> WOULD YOU PLEASE STAND FOR THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE? ITEM NUMBER 4.1,

[4. APPROVAL OF MINUTES]

>> I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE MINUTES AS PROVIDED.

>> I'LL MAKE A SECOND.

ALL IN FAVOR?

>> AYE.

>> NUMBER 5. PUBLIC COMMENTS REGARDING ITEMS NOT ON THE AGENDA.

DOES ANYONE WISH TO SPEAK AT THIS TIME? NUMBER 6, COMBINING PARK AND RECREATION ADVISORY COMMITTEE AND GOLF ADVISORY BOARD.

[6.1 Combining Parks And Recreation Advisory Committee And Golf Club Advisory Board (Update On Combining Committees)]

>> GOOD EVENING. SCOTT NICHOLSON, PARKS AND RECREATION DIRECTOR. AN UPDATE.

AT THE MARCH 18TH CITY COMMISSION MEETING DURING COMMISSIONER COMMENTS.

THE COMMISSION HAD GAINED CONSENSUS ON COMBINING SOME BOARDS AND COMMITTEES BASICALLY FOR EFFECTIVENESS AND EFFICIENCY.

THIS IS GOING TO AFFECT US ON THE DATE IS APRIL 15TH, THE NEXT CITY COMMISSION MEETING NEXT WEEK.

THEY WILL BE VOTING.

BASICALLY, THE PLAN WILL BE TO TAKE THE GOLF CLUB ADVISORY BOARD AND COMBINE.

THEY ARE GOING TO BE SUNSETTING THAT BOARD.

WELL, IT'S GOING TO FORMAL VOTE AT THAT MEETING.

SUNSETTING THAT BOARD AND TWO OF THE MEMBERS, AND THOSE MEMBERS WOULD BE FROM THE MEN'S AND LADIES GOLF ASSOCIATION THAT REPRESENT THE MEN'S AND LADIES GOLF ASSOCIATION, AND THOSE REPRESENTATIVES WOULD BE ADDED TO THIS BOARD.

WE WOULD GO FROM A SEVEN MEMBER COMMITTEE TO A NON MEMBER COMMITTEE WITH A QUORUM OF FIVE PEOPLE.

BASICALLY, AT THAT GOLF COURSE AND PARKS AND RECREATION EVENTS, AND ITEMS WOULD COME BEFORE THIS PARTICULAR BOARD.

WE WOULD SAY THE MEETINGS WOULD BE AT THE EXACT SAME TIMES THAT WE'RE CURRENTLY MEETING AT.

JUST WANTED TO GIVE YOU AN UPDATE.

ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS REGARDING THAT? CONCERNS, LIKE I SAID PREVIOUSLY, IS ON APRIL 15TH, THAT WILL GO BACK TO THE COMMISSION FOR A FORMAL VOTE THAT GOT BROUGHT UP DURING THEIR COMMISSIONER COMMENTS, AND THEY DID GAIN CONSENSUS AT THAT MEETING, BUT IT HAS TO GO BACK FOR A FORMAL MEETING, OR A FORMAL VOTE. ANY QUESTIONS, CONCERNS?

>> I HAVE SOME QUESTIONS. I WAS AT THE MEETING UNDERSTOOD THAT THEY WERE CONSIDERING THE CHANGES EFFECTIVELY ACROSS SEVERAL BOARDS.

HANG ON. I UNDERSTOOD IT TO MEAN A COUPLE OF THINGS THAT THEY WERE HOPING TO CONSOLIDATE OR DO AWAY WITH SOME BOARDS BECAUSE THEY DIDN'T FEEL LIKE THEY WERE ACTUALLY NEEDED.

ONE OF THE REASONS WHY GOLF WOULD BE ABSORBED FOR ANYBODY WHO DOESN'T ALREADY KNOW IS THAT THAT BOARD HAD TO DO WITH WHEN THE GOLF COURSE WAS BEING MANAGED BY AN OUTSIDE VENDOR.

NOW WE HAVE AN IN PERSON GOLF COURSE MANAGER.

WHO IS OVER YOU OR HIS SUPERVISOR?

>> THAT IS CORRECT.

>> THEN THE ADVISEMENT THAT'S WHY IT'S BEING CONSOLIDATED, IS THAT FAIR?

>> WELL, WITH PARTICULAR THOSE TWO, THE GOLF COURSE ADVISORY BOARD AND THE PARKS AND RECREATION ADVISORY COMMITTEE, YES, JEFFREY THE GENERAL MANAGER, JEFFREY BIGGERS, DOES REPORT TO ME AS THE PARKS AND RECREATION DIRECTOR.

WE WORK CLOSELY TOGETHER.

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I DON'T REALLY WANT TO SPEAK ABOUT ANY OF THE OTHER BOARDS.

>> WELL, AND DID EVERYBODY WATCH THE MEETING OR UNDERSTAND ABOUT THE BOARDS BEING CONSOLIDATED LIKE THAT?

>> I HAVE NOT WATCHED THAT.

>> THEIR COMMISSIONER MENCHU BROUGHT IT UP AND SHE HAD A PRETTY COMPELLING ARGUMENT FOR THE COSTS ASSOCIATED WITH WHAT IT COST FOR STAFF TO BE AT ALL OF THESE VARIOUS BOARD MEETINGS AND THAT MAYBE THERE WERE SOME THINGS THAT COULD BE DONE.

THERE'S ONE LIKE A QUASI JUDICIAL, WHICH THEY WERE SUGGESTING BE DONE BY A JUDGE, LIKE AN ACTUAL JUDGE AND NOT VOLUNTEER GROUPS.

ONE OF THE THINGS THAT ALREADY HAPPENS, I THINK WITH THE HISTORIC DISTRICT COUNCIL, IS THEY HAVE VERY SPECIFIC ROLES THAT PEOPLE HAVE ARCHITECTS AND ENGINEERS AND IN THAT THING TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE IMPLEMENTING HISTORIC THINGS.

TO HAVE PEOPLE WHO ARE VERY FAMILIAR WITH THE GOLF COURSE SEEMS TO MAKE SENSE IN THIS BOARD. [OVERLAPPING]

>> I THINK COMBINING THEM AND BRINGING AT LEAST TWO ADDITIONAL MEMBERS OVER, I THINK IT'S APPROPRIATE TO ADD THEM TO THIS COMMITTEE.

THERE'S ITEMS THAT ARE DISCUSSED CONSTANTLY ABOUT PARKS AND RECREATION IN THE GOLF COURSE.

THERE WERE SOME CONCERNS FROM THE GOLF COURSE ADVISORY BOARD.

I THINK JEFFREY, MR. BIGGERS AND I ANSWERED THOSE QUESTIONS.

JEFFREY AND, OBVIOUSLY, I SUPPORT PARKS AND RECREATION, SUPPORT THE GOLF COURSE, AND HOPEFULLY WE CAN WORK COLLABORATIVELY TOGETHER.

>> WELL, AND I THINK I'M SORRY. GO AHEAD.

>> NO YOU GO AHEAD.

>> I WAS GOING TO SAY, IF WE HAVE TWO PEOPLE FROM THE GOLF COURSE AND YOU ARE ON THAT BOARD ALSO, SO THERE'S SOME OVERLAP IN THAT CAPACITY.

>> YES.

>> THAT SEEMS TO BE ALMOST BRINGING THE HALF IS OF THEIR BOARD TO THIS GROUP.

>> DO YOU FEEL THAT LIKE FOR THOSE OF US WHO AREN'T AS FAMILIAR WITH THE STUFF THAT THAT BOARD WOULD BE RESPONSIBLE FOR? DO YOU THINK THAT THAT'S SOMETHING THAT IF IT PASSES, MAYBE THERE'S LIKE AN INFORMATIONAL WORKSHOP JUST TO GET US UP TO SPEED ON ANYTHING THAT'S GOING ON OR HOW IT RUNS OR SOMETHING? THAT WAY WE KNOW AND WE'RE NOT JUST TRYING TO VOTE ON THINGS IN UPCOMING MEETINGS BLINDLY. IS THAT SOMETHING.

>> I THINK IT'LL BE IMPORTANT FOR JEFFREY AND I TO MAKE SURE THAT ANYTHING THAT IS BROUGHT TO THE BOARD THAT IS MORE RELATED TO GOLF, THAT, WE BRING ALL THE FACTS AND MAKE SURE THAT YOU ARE AWARE OF, THIS IS WHAT'S BEFORE YOU.

BUT YEAH, WE CAN WORK ON SETTING UP.

>> THEN THE OTHER THOUGHT I HAD AND I THINK THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WALLY BROUGHT UP WHEN HE WAS STILL ON THE BOARD BEFORE THAT WE MENTIONED, AND I THINK THAT MAYBE YOU AND I BOTH SAID WE LIKE THE IDEA, BUT WITH HAVING THAT BIG OF A BOARD, IT MIGHT BE A GOOD OPPORTUNITY TO LOOK AT PAIRS OR MAYBE TRIOS OF PEOPLE THAT ARE LIAISONS FOR DIFFERENT PROJECTS TO WHERE, IF THEY NEED TO MEET WITH PEOPLE AND CAN REPORT BACK.

IT'S LIKE WHEN YOU WOULD MEET WITH MR. ABBOTT OR SOMETHING, IF A COUPLE OF US WENT SO THAT EVERYBODY COULD SHARE THE INFORMATION, SO IT'S NOT JUST FALLING ON ONE PERSON, BUT THEN TO GET ADDITIONAL INFORMATION FROM SOME OF THE PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY WHO MIGHT, LIKE, SKATE PARK OR SOME OF THE BEACH PROJECTS THAT ARE COMING UP OR SOME OF THAT MIGHT BE AN OPPORTUNITY TO BREAK UP.

OBVIOUSLY, WE WOULD ALL COME TO THE BIG BOARD MEETINGS, BUT BREAK UP SOME OF THE THINGS TO SHARE THE INFORMATION AND HELP.

>> YEAH, WE COULD HAVE LIAISONS FOR PARTICULAR AREAS.

THE ONLY THING IS, HAVING TWO MEMBERS THAT WOULD BE MEETING.

IT WOULD BE BETTER TO HAVE JUST ONE INDIVIDUAL BECAUSE THEN ALL THOSE MEETINGS AND THE SUNSHINE LAWS.

I THINK ONE INDIVIDUAL PERSON COULD BE WE CAN SET STUFF UP TO HAVE LIAISONS.

>> I WAS JUST THINKING OF LIKE THE WORKLOAD AND HAVING LIKE A BIGGER GROUP THAT WAY WE CAN HELP YOU GUYS, AND THEN PEOPLE CAN MEET WITH OTHER INDIVIDUALS WHO NEED TO GET INFORMATION.

>> WELL, AND TO, PARKS AND REC, MOST OF THE STUFF THAT WE DO HERE AND TELL ME IF I'M NOT CORRECT STATING THIS THE PROPER WAY.

I FEEL LIKE I'M NOT TALKING WELL RIGHT NOW. SORRY, IT'S LATE IN THE DAY.

[LAUGHTER] MOST OF WHAT WE DO IS WITH PARKS AND REC, WE'RE NOT GENERATING REVENUE FOR LIKE THE POOLS.

WE'RE TRYING TO MAKE IT NEUTRAL COST EFFECTIVE, BUT THAT IS NOT TRUE AT THE GOLF COURSE.

THAT IS SOMETHING THAT IS ACTUALLY TRYING TO DRIVE REVENUE.

IT'S A DIFFERENT BEAST IN THAT WE NEED IT TO DO OTHER THINGS THAN WE NEED THE PARK TO DO.

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>> I TOTALLY AGREE WITH YOU THAT THINGS AREN'T THAT MUCH DIFFERENT IN THE SENSE THAT THEY STILL HAVE PROJECTS THAT THEY'RE LOOKING AT I.E, A PUMP FOR THE WELL, OR DO WE NEED A NEW WELL AND A NEW PUMP, OR EQUIPMENT THAT NEEDS TO BE PURCHASED.

IT IS TRYING TO ASSESS THE THINGS THAT KEEP THAT GOLF COURSE GOING.

IT TOOK A LONG TIME ALMOST 16 MONTHS TO GET THAT GOLF COURSE IN SHAPE THAT IT IS IN TODAY, AND PEOPLE ARE COMMENTING ON HOW WELL THAT GOLF COURSE IS RUNNING, HOW WELL THE APPEARANCE IS, AND HOW MANY MORE PEOPLE WERE ATTRACTING FOR ROUNDS OF GOLF.

THIS GOLF ADVISORY BOARD DID A REMARKABLE JOB.

ONE, INCREASING THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE THAT ARE PLAYING IN THE DIFFERENT ORGANIZATIONS, MEN AND WOMEN.

THEY HAVE BOTH BROUGHT THEIR NUMBERS UP BECAUSE OF THE APPEARANCE OF THE NEW GOLF COURSE.

I THINK WITH THAT AS OUR GOAL, WE JUST HAVE TO CONTINUE BUILDING ON TO THAT.

THAT'S THE FUTURE.

THE SECOND PART IS, I THINK WE ALL AGREE THAT OUR JOB IS TO MAKE SURE THAT WE GIVE THE COMMISSIONERS THE ABILITY TO MAKE A GOOD DECISION BASED ON HOW WE LOOK WITH THE EYES OF THE PUBLIC, AND WE HAVE TO GIVE THEM THAT OPPORTUNITY TO THINK THAT WE ARE GIVING THEM THE BEST ADVICE WE CAN GIVE SO THEY CAN MAKE A LOGICAL DECISION.

NO DIFFERENCE. GOING FORWARD. AM I CORRECT, SCOTT?

>> THAT'S CORRECT. JUST, A QUICK UPDATE ALSO IS THAT THE GOLF COURSE IS AN ENTERPRISE FUND, AS, I THINK MEMBER COCCHI HAD MENTIONED.

WITH THAT, THAT'S NOT CHANGING.

THE ACTUAL BUDGET IS NOT BEING COMBINED WITH THE PARKS AND RECREATION BUDGET.

THE PARKS AND RECREATION BUDGET IS A GENERAL FUND BUDGET.

THE GOLF COURSE IS AN ENTERPRISE BUDGET.

THAT IS STILL STAYING SEPARATED.

>> DO YOU NEED A MOTION OR SOMETHING FOR THIS OR YOU JUST?

>> NO. WE DON'T NEED A MOTION.

I JUST THOUGHT THAT THIS IS SOMETHING THAT YOU SHOULD BE AWARE OF AND THAT IT IS GOING TO THE CITY COMMISSION ON THE APRIL 15TH FOR A FORMAL POSITION.

>> HOW THE TWO PEOPLE, ARE THEY JUST CHOOSING THEMSELVES OFF THE BOARD WITH THE DISSOLUTION OF THAT OR ARE THEY GOING TO BE APPOINTED BY THE COMMISSION OR.

>> YES. THOSE TWO POSITIONS ARE ACTUALLY APPOINTED BY THE MEN'S AND WOMEN'S GOLF ASSOCIATION.

THEY'RE LIKE, APPOINTED BY THEM, AND THEN THEY WOULD BE NOMINATED AND THEN I BELIEVE POSSIBLY APPROVED THROUGH THE CITY COMMISSION, OR I'M NOT EXACTLY SURE, BUT IT IS GOING TO BE WRITTEN THAT THEY ARE TWO OF THOSE MEMBERS ON THE GOLF COURSE ADVISORY COMMITTEE ARE BASICALLY APPOINTED OR ENDORSED BY THE MEN'S AND WOMEN'S GOLF ASSOCIATION.

THOSE WOULD BE THE TWO THAT WOULD BE MOVING OVER.

>> YOU MAY HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? THANK YOU, SCOTT. 6.2,

[6.2 Waterfront Park Playground Area/Structure (Recommendation To The City Commission / Staying Within The Area Of The Existing Plan Or Expanding The Area To Fit A Larger Play Structure In The Park)]

THIS WILL BE LED BY SCOTT.

KATIE, IF YOU DON'T MIND, CAN YOU PLEASE PUT UP THE SITE PLAN. [BACKGROUND]

>> STROLL DOWN. KEEP GOING.

>> DO YOU KNOW WHAT PAGE?

>> NOT TOP OF MY HEAD. THAT'S FINE.

PERFECT KEEP ZOOMING IN IF YOU DON'T MIND, MAYBE ONE OR TWO MORE. PERFECT. THANK YOU.

WHAT IS ITEM 6.2? THE WATERFRONT PLAYGROUND AREA PLAYGROUND STRUCTURE.

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BASICALLY DID PARKS AND RECREATION SUPPORT IT? PRACK WAS ASKED, OR WE WERE ASKED TO REVISIT AND GIVE RECOMMENDATIONS ON A PLAY STRUCTURE FOR THE AREA AT THE PARK.

TO REVISIT A FEW STEPS THAT WE HAVE TAKEN SINCE.

WE DID MEET AT THE WATERFRONT PARK.

WE HAD A WORKSHOP AT THE WATERFRONT PARK TO ACTUALLY LOOK AT THE AREA SO YOU COULD GET A VISUAL.

THERE WAS A CONSENSUS BY PRAC, THAT THEY WOULD NOT LIKE THE GLOBAL MOTION INSTALLED.

PARKS AND RECREATION STAFF HAS BEEN WORKING WITH A PLAYGROUND COMPANY FOR IDEAS THAT WOULD FIT INSIDE AND OUTSIDE THE FOOTPRINT.

BASICALLY WHAT WE HAVE LEARNED IS TO STAY WITHIN THE EXISTING BUDGET THAT IS SET RIGHT NOW AT $115,000.

WE WOULD HAVE TO STAY WITHIN THE FOOTPRINT.

HOWEVER, WE CAN EXPAND TO THE NORTH, AND WE SAW THAT DOWN AT OUR WORKSHOP MEETING.

BUT THAT WOULD MORE THAN LIKELY PUSH US OUTSIDE OF OUR BUDGETS.

TONIGHT PARKS AND RECREATION STAFF IS LOOKING FOR A RECOMMENDATION FOR US TO REPORT BACK TO THE COMMISSION AND THE CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE.

THIS IS THE AREA THAT CIRCULAR AREA.

IT'S A 27 FOOT AREA.

AROUND IT IS, I BELIEVE, LIKE A TWO FOOT WIDE SEATING WALL THAT MAKES THE OUTSIDE OF THAT 29.

>> KATIE, IF YOU COULD, COULD YOU PLEASE PULL UP A FEW OF THOSE? I WANT TO PREFACE THIS IS WE HAVE BEEN WORKING WITH A PLAYGROUND COMPANY.

THESE ARE JUST IDEAS.

THESE IDEAS CAN BE TWEED, COLOR SCHEMATICS, ANYTHING CAN BE TWEAKED.

IN YOUR PACKET, THERE'S BASICALLY TWO THAT WE HAVE DISCUSSED THAT HAVE BEEN PRESENTED TO YOU TONIGHT.

THE FIRST ONE IS THE LIGHTHOUSE.

THEN SECONDLY IS, I GUESS WHAT WE WOULD CALL A ROBELLINI SHIP.

THE ROBELLINI SHIP WOULD HAVE TO EXPAND THE FOOTPRINT. THANK YOU.

IF YOU COULD GO BACK TO THE LIGHTHOUSE, PLEASE, AND ONCE AGAIN, PREFACING THESE ARE JUST IDEAS.

THIS IS AN ITEM, ANYTHING THAT WOULD FIT INSIDE THE CIRCULAR AREA WOULD BE AN AGE RANGE OF TWO TO FIVE.

THE MAIN REASON FOR THAT IS BECAUSE OF FALL ZONES.

THE HIGHER YOU GO, THE WIDER YOU HAVE TO BE.

THE ROBELLINI SHIP IS ACTUALLY SET FOR AGES 5-12.

IT'S NOT A HUGE FIVE TO 12 STRUCTURE.

IT'S PROBABLY MORE 8-12 RANGE.

ONCE AGAIN, THE HIGHER YOU GO, THE WIDER THE FALL ZONES.

WE'RE NOT LOOKING AT A VERY LARGE AREA.

BASICALLY, AND I DON'T WANT TO PUT WORDS IN ANYONE'S MOUTH, BUT TONIGHT WE ARE LOOKING FOR A MOTION.

I WANT YOU GUYS TO TAKE IT FROM HERE.

I WANT YOU TO HAVE YOUR DISCUSSION.

BUT A FEW IDEAS OF MOTIONS THAT WE WOULD BE LOOKING FOR WOULD BE BASICALLY A MOTION NOT TO EXPAND THE AREA AND FIND A PLAY STRUCTURE THAT WOULD FIT WITHIN THE EXISTING SIMILAR TO THAT.

STAFF WOULD WORK ON DEVELOPING THAT.

THAT WOULD FIT WITHIN THE BUDGET.

OR THERE COULD BE A MOTION TO EXPAND THE FOOTPRINT, SOMETHING LIKE THIS, THAT WOULD BE OUTSIDE OF OUR BUDGET, AND IT WOULD EXPAND THE FOOTPRINT.

NOW, REMEMBER WITH SOME OF THESE TWO

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THEN, LIKE A COMPLETE 180 IS A MOTION THAT MAYBE WE JUST HAVE THE CIRCULAR AREA AND THERE IS NO PLAY STRUCTURE.

THAT WOULD SAVE MONEY.

THOSE ARE SOME OF THE IDEAS OF WHAT WE ARE LOOKING FOR TO TAKE BACK.

AT THIS POINT, I WOULD JUST LIKE FOR YOU GUYS TO HAVE A DISCUSSION AND MAKE A MOTION AND WE'LL HAVE A VOTE.

ANY QUESTIONS FOR ME BEFORE YOU GUYS HAVE YOUR DISCUSSION?

>> I HAVE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS, SCOTT.

IF WE WERE TO EXPAND, IS THERE ANY INFRASTRUCTURE OR HARD SCAPE AREAS ASIDE FROM THE WALL THAT THIS WOULD BE AFFECTING, OR IS IT JUST MOSTLY A GRASSY AREA?

>> IT WOULD MAINLY BE THE GRASSY AREA.

CAN YOU GO BACK TO THE SITE PLAN, PLEASE?

>> YEAH.

>> IF WE WERE TO EXPAND IT, THAT CIRCULAR AREA IS LIKE A CONCRETE SITTING WALL, SO THAT WOULD GO AWAY.

THE OTHER AREA WOULD BE GRASSY AREA.

>> IT WOULD BE AFFECTING REALLY ANY OF THE CONTRACTORS WORK.

THEY WOULD BE NOT DOING THE WALL, BUT THEN THE PLAYGROUND COMPANY WOULD BE INSTALLING THE PLAYGROUND IN THE HARD STEEP.

>> THE PICTURE THAT WE SHOWED WITH THE ROBELLINI SHIP IDEA, IT WOULD NOT AFFECT EITHER ONE OF THE SIDEWALKS TO THE EAST OR THE WEST OR TO THE SOUTH.

>> THEN WITH THE OPTION THAT'S OVER BUDGET, DO WE HAVE IMPACT FEE MONEY IN THE PARK'S BUDGET THAT COULD BE USED TO COVER ANY OF THE OVERAGES? I KNOW THAT SOME OF THAT HAS BEEN ALLOCATED TO PROJECTS, BUT I BELIEVE SOME OF THOSE PROJECTS ARE NOT CURRENTLY TAKING PLACE THIS YEAR.

ARE THERE FUNDS THAT COULD POSSIBLY BE REALLOCATED FOR THIS PROJECT SINCE IT IS HAPPENING RIGHT NOW?

>> YEAH. OBVIOUSLY, YOU'D HAVE TO WORK WITH THE CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE, BUT WE WOULD TAKE SOME OF THOSE ALLOCATED FUNDS THAT ARE FOR THESE OTHER PROJECTS, FOR EXAMPLE, THE YBOR ALVAREZ SPORTS COMPLEX.

THAT'S NOT GOING TO HAPPEN THIS FISCAL YEAR.

THOSE MONIES COULD POSSIBLY BE ALLOCATED FOR THAT.

>> THEN I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE ROBELLINI STRUCTURE AND INCREASE THE AREA.

I FEEL THAT WITH THE 2.3 MILLION DOLLAR PARK, IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT TO MAKE A PLAY STRUCTURE THAT CAN ENCOMPASS ALL AGES OF PEOPLE DOWN THERE, AND I THINK THAT THIS PLAY STRUCTURE COULD REALLY SERVE AS LIKE A CENTERPIECE DOWN THERE.

I THINK THE BOAT REALLY LEANS INTO THE HISTORY OF THE ISLAND.

BY PUTTING A SMALLER PLAY STRUCTURE IN THERE WITH A SMALLER FALL ZONE AND THOSE HARD SHAPED WALLS AROUND IT, I THINK IT'S UNSAFE FOR OLDER KIDS WHO ARE GOING TO PLAY DOWN THERE.

WITH THAT, I KNOW THAT THIS IS GOING TO THE COMMISSION, AND IF FOR SOME REASON, THEY ARE TO NOT APPROVE EXPANDING THE AREA INTO A LARGER PLAY STRUCTURE, I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO RECOMMEND THAT THEN WE WOULD ENCOURAGE THEM TO DO THE LIGHTHOUSE ONE RATHER THAN THEM KICKING IT BACK TO US FOR ANOTHER DECISION, IF THAT MAKES SENSE.

>> THE MOTION WOULD BE TO EXPAND INITIALLY.

IF THAT'S SOMETHING THAT THE COMMISSION IS NOT WILLING TO DO, YOU WOULD SUGGEST THAT THEY WOULD THEN STAY WITHIN THE SAME FOOTPRINT, BUT THEN USE SOMETHING SIMILAR TO THE LIGHTHOUSE?

>> CORRECT.

>> OKAY.

>> WELL, SHOULD WE SEE IF WE GET A SECOND FOR THAT FIRST AND THEN WE HAVE A DISCUSSION ABOUT THAT BEFORE WE VOTE BECAUSE I THINK IT MAY ULTIMATELY GET SOME SORT OF AMENDMENT TO THAT TO FIGURE OUT WHAT.

>> ABSOLUTELY. THERE'S A MOTION FOR THIS TO MOVE FORWARD.

FOR THAT MOTION TO MOVE FORWARD, WE NEED A SECOND AND THEN WE WOULD HAVE A DISCUSSION AND THEN WE WOULD HAVE A VOTE.

>> SCOTT, HOW MUCH IS THE OVERAGE IN THE BUDGET WITH MOTION 2.

>> $37,000. THEY APPROVED 115.

>> THEY APPROVED 115.

>> BUT THAT'S JUST FOR THE PLAY STRUCTURE.

THAT'S NOT FOR THE CHANGES THAT WOULD REQUIRE CONCRETE OR WHATEVER.

>> THE TOTAL FOR THE BOAT IS 150.

>> YEAH, SO 40 TO 50,000.

>> WE HAVE A MOTION ON THE TABLE, SO WE NEED A SECOND BEFORE WE REALLY HAVE A DISCUSSION.

>> I SECOND.

>> THERE'S A MOTION A SECOND, AND NOW THERE'S DISCUSSION.

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>> I LIKE THE DESIGN OF THE SHIP BETTER THAN THE LIGHTHOUSE, BUT I DO NOT SUPPORT EXPANDING THE FOOTPRINT FOR DESIGN PURPOSES, COST PURPOSES, AND I FEEL LIKE THERE'S GOING TO JUST BE OTHER OTHER PURPOSES FOR BEING DOWN THERE.

I WOULD BE HAPPY PERSONALLY WITH NO PLAY STRUCTURE, BUT I TOTALLY UNDERSTAND FAMILIES WITH KIDS WANTING TO HAVE SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

BUT I THINK FOR THE ADDITIONAL COSTS, THAT'S JUST NOT SOMETHING I SUPPORT.

I WISH THAT BOAT STRUCTURE COULD BE CONDENSED DOWN SOME WAY TO FIT IN THE SPACE, BUT MY BOAT WOULD BE A NO FOR THAT.

>> THANK YOU.

>> I'M GOING TO GO ON WITH [OVERLAPPING].

>> I SAY NO TOO.

>> I DON'T THINK WE SHOULD EXPAND THE STRUCTURE.

I LIKE THE BOAT BETTER THAN THE TOWER.

IF MY MEMORY SERVES, THEY ADDED THE EXTRA CLIMBING THING THAT'S NOT THE BOAT JUST TO HAVE MORE STUFF TO DO.

CAN WE DO JUST THE BOAT.

>> YOU'RE SAYING LIKE THIS FRONT HOUSE?

>> JUST THIS PART, WITHOUT THE PLATFORM AND THE STAIRS AT THE BACK.

>> I DON'T KNOW IF IT LOOKS AS MUCH LIKE A BOAT.

>> YEAH. IT DOES.

>> I FEEL LIKE THE FRONT PART FEELS LIKE [OVERLAPPING].

>> I UNDERSTAND THAT. I JUST LIKE IF WE'RE PUTTING $2.3 MILLION INTO A PARK THAT IS SUPPOSED TO BE THE NEW CENTER PIECE OF DOWNTOWN, LIKE YOU GO TO SO MANY OTHER CITIES AND PARKS THAT HAVE PLACED STRUCTURES.

I THINK YOU WANT TO MAKE IT SOMETHING THAT'S REALLY UNIQUE AND COOL THAT ISN'T JUST STUCK THERE BECAUSE WE FELT LIKE WE NEEDED TO PUT SOMETHING THERE.

IF THE FUNDING IS AN ISSUE, I'M SURE THAT THERE ARE WAYS WE COULD LOOK INTO DONATIONS AS WELL TO COVER THE OVERAGES, WHICH WOULDN'T AFFECT THE PARKS BUDGET.

BUT I FEEL LIKE PUTTING SOMETHING THERE FOR JUST TWO TO FIVE YEAR OLDS, WHEN I THINK YOU'RE GOING TO GET A LOT OF OLDER KIDS ON IT.

IT'S GOING TO GET CROWDED AND IT BECOMES DANGEROUS.

I LIKE THE LIGHTHOUSE LOOK OF IT TOO, BUT I THINK THE BOAT REALLY FITS THE SHRIMPING INDUSTRY DOWN AT THE HARBOR.

WE'RE GOING TO HAVE THAT SHRIMPING MONUMENT DOWN THERE AND IT TIES IT ALL IN AND WILL LOOK REALLY NEAT.

OTHERWISE, GRASS THAT IS PROBABLY GOING TO BECOME WEEDS AND IT'S HARD TO MAINTAIN, SO IT'S HELPING WITH SOME OF THE MAINTENANCE DOWN THERE.

>> I SEE THAT GRASS AS PLACES WHERE PEOPLE MIGHT HAVE LAWN CHAIRS AND STUFF, SITTING AROUND TO HAVE A PICNIC.

I FEEL LIKE THAT'S WHAT WE'RE LOSING EXPANDING THE PLAY AREA.

TO ME, THAT'S WHAT'S APPEALING IS THE GRASS, BEING ABLE TO ACTUALLY DO SOMETHING THERE BESIDES JUST NOW ALL YOU CAN DO IS PARK.

>> DON'T WE TO THE SOUTH HAVE A PRETTY BIG GRASSY AREA STILL? THERE'S GRASS, BUT I THINK IT'S LIKE CONCERTS AND THINGS THAT WILL BE GOING ON DOWN THERE.

HAVING LIKE WHEN WE NOW BLOCK OFF THE PARKING LOTS LIKE SHRIMP FESTIVAL OR THE FIREWORKS.

>> I AGREE I WAS INITIALLY IN FAVOR OF JUST SOMEWHERE TO SIT, SOMEWHERE TO GATHER, SOMEWHERE THAT KIDS CAN RUN AROUND, USE THEIR IMAGINATION, SIT ON THE GRASS, EAT SOME ICE CREAM OR WHATEVER.

I AM REALLY IN FAVOR OF SOMETHING SIMPLER AND STAYING WITHIN THE FOOTPRINT AND WITHIN THE BUDGET.

I DON'T LIKE THE IDEA OF BORROWING FROM ONE THING TO PAY FOR SOMETHING ELSE.

>> GO AHEAD.

>> I'M NOT GOOD WITH DESIGN. EXCLUDING THAT, I DON'T REALLY SEE WHAT THE PROBLEM IS IF WE DO EXPAND.

IT DOESN'T SEEM LIKE A BIG DEAL.

I AGREE IF WE'RE GOING TO DO IT, LET'S DO IT RIGHT.

THE SMALLER STRUCTURE, IT'S JUST NOT ENOUGH TO ME.

IT'S EITHER DO NOTHING AND JUST HAVE MORE GRASS OR DO SOMETHING THAT KIDS REALLY WILL ENJOY.

THE FINANCIAL FEES, IF WE HAVE THE RESOURCES SOMEWHERE ELSE THAT WE CAN USE, WE SHOULD USE THEM.

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>> YEAH. I LIKE HOW BOTH OF THEM LOOK AESTHETICALLY.

I THINK WITH THE LIGHTHOUSE ONE, IF IT HAS A CONCRETE WALL AROUND IT, I CAN SEE OLDER BOYS JUMPING ON AND OFF THE WALL ONTO IT, AND I FEEL LIKE IT WOULD BE MORE OF A MAINTENANCE COST.

I COULD SEE THINGS BREAKING ON THAT EASIER WHERE THE SHIP IS MADE FOR PLAY, AND WE COULD EVEN ADD, LIKE I KNOW CENTRAL PARK YOU SEE IN THE LIGHTHOUSE ONE LIKE LITTLE GADGETS, THE LITTLE ONES, WE COULD ADD SOME OF THOSE.

>> I THINK ONE OF THE DRAWING HAS A LITTLE PIECE ADDED.

KATIE, DO YOU HAVE THAT ONE? THERE WAS LIKE A LITTLE THING ON THE GROUND FOR THE LITTLE KIDS.

THAT WAS AN OPTION.

>> I STILL SAID NO.

>> GO BACK ONE. THERE. IT'S LIKE A Z IN THE CORNER, BUT IT WAS LIKE A LITTLE THING.

I THINK THAT YOU PUT STATUES DOWN THERE JUST LIKE THE PIRATE AND THE ANCHOR ARE NOW, THOSE BECOME YOUR PLAY EQUIPMENT IF YOU DON'T HAVE ANYTHING FOR OLDER KIDS.

THEY'LL BE JUMPING OFF THE WALLS, JUMPING OFF THE PAVILIONS, ALL THAT STUFF THAT YOU CURRENTLY SEE SOMETIMES DOWNTOWN BECAUSE THERE'S NOT REALLY ANYTHING FOR THEM.

I THINK THAT A 2-5 PIECE OF EQUIPMENT THAT'S REALLY MAYBE MORE LIKE EVEN LESS THAN FIVE IS GOING TO AGE OUT PRETTY QUICKLY.

>> I THINK THAT THE LIGHTHOUSE PIECE DOES LOOK VERY JUVENILE.

JUST THE DESIGN ITSELF IS NOT VERY SOPHISTICATED LOOKING LIKE THE SHIP IS.

I FEEL LIKE WHERE IT HAS THAT, I DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU CALL THAT BOOM OR WHATEVER IT IS, THAT SEEMS TO BE HAVING IT OUT FURTHER.

I FEEL LIKE IF THEY COULD MODIFY THIS DESIGN, YOU SAID ANYTHING'S DOABLE.

I FEEL LIKE THIS IS THE MORE APPROPRIATE DESIGN AESTHETIC.

>> IT'S JUST THAT THE STAIRS AND HEIGHT, THE LIGHTHOUSE DOESN'T REALLY HAVE ANY STAIRS OR HEIGHT TO IT. IT'S LIKE TWO STEPS.

IT'S ABOUT THE SIZE OF THE LITTLE TINY TODDLER STRUCTURE AT CENTRAL PARK, IF YOU'RE FAMILIAR WITH THAT ONE, THAT'S OVER BY THE SWINGS.

IT'S LIKE LITERALLY ABOUT THIS HIGH OFF THE GROUND.

IT'S BECAUSE THE FALL ZONE HAS TO BE SO BIG FOR IT TO INCLUDE OLDER KIDS.

>> THIS MIDDLE PART SEEMS LIKE THAT COULD BE JOINED SOMEHOW INSTEAD OF BEING WIDE IN BETWEEN, THAT COULD SHRINK THAT DOWN, AND IF WE TOOK THIS THING OFF OF THE FRONT.

SCOTT, DID THEY LOOK AT TRYING TO MAKE A BOAT THAT WOULD FIT?

>> YEAH. ANYTHING THE SIZE OF THE ROBELLINI SHIP, IT WILL NOT FIT IN THERE.

ANYTHING OF MORE HEIGHT AND MORE SUBSTANCE, IT EXPANDS THE FOOTPRINT AND WHERE IT EXPANDS THE FOOTPRINT IS FALL ZONES.

I THINK YOU MADE A VERY GOOD ANALOGY IS THE CENTRAL PARK, SMALLER PLAY STRUCTURE THAT IS OVER BY THE SWINGS.

YOU GO TWO STEPS UP, YOUR FALL ZONE IS MUCH SHORTER.

>> THE PLAY STRUCTURE OF THAT SIZE IS ABOUT TWO KIDS, SO I FEEL LIKE YOU'RE REALLY LIMITING THE AMOUNT.

OTHERWISE, IT JUST GETS TO TOO MANY KIDS ON THERE.

THEY'RE TRIPPING, THEY'RE FALLING.

WE'VE BEEN OVER THERE AND THERE'S FOUR OR FIVE ON THERE, AND IT'S TOO MANY.

IF YOU PUT SOMETHING THAT'S SMALL, AND YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE BANDS AND EVENTS, AND YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE LOTS OF KIDS OUT THERE, IT SEEMS LIKE A WASTE OF THE 115 OR $120,000 OF A $2.3 MILLION PARK 1.

WE ARE BORROWING THE FUNDS FROM SOMEWHERE ELSE, BUT I DON'T KNOW IF WE EVEN HAVE AN ACCURATE BUDGET ON WHAT YBOR ALVAREZ IS GOING TO BE OR WHAT THAT PROJECT'S GOING TO LOOK LIKE RIGHT NOW.

I THINK THINGS ARE CONSTANTLY CHANGING ON ALL THE OTHER PROJECTS.

AT SOME POINT, IT'S LIKE WHAT WE'RE DOING RIGHT NOW MIGHT BE WHAT WE NEED TO FOCUS ON AS I KNOW THERE'S OTHER PROJECTS COMING, BUT THEY'RE ALWAYS ARE.

>> ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANYTHING ELSE YOU'D LIKE TO ADD TO IT?

>> [OVERLAPPING] I THINK NONE OF US LIKE THE TOWER.

I'M PUTTING WORDS IN MOUTHS.

I JUST REALLY FEEL LIKE THE WATERFRONT CONCEPT TO ME IS ABOUT SOMEWHERE FOR FAMILIES TO GO AND BE TOGETHER,

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I DON'T SEE A COMPLEX PLAY STRUCTURE FITTING INTO THAT FEELING FOR THE WATERFRONT PARK.

AS I UNDERSTAND, WE'VE GOT LOTS OF STUFF TO DO AT OUR OTHER PARKS.

I WILL HAVE TO BE CONVINCED AS TO WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO.

>> CHAIR CAMERA, YOU WANT TO ADD YOUR OPINION OR DO YOU WANT TO CALL THE VOTE AT THIS POINT?

>> I JUST WANT TO MAKE ONE.

WE REALLY DON'T KNOW WHAT THE TRAFFIC FLOW DOWN THERE WILL BE LIKE, NUMBER ONE.

NUMBER TWO, I BELIEVE IF WE TABLE IT AND SEE WHAT THE TRAFFIC FLOW IS AS A POSSIBILITY AND WAIT AND IF WE FIND THAT THE TRAFFIC FLOW IS NOT THAT GREAT, THEN WE SHOULDN'T BE INVESTING $115,000 RIGHT THERE.

THAT'S THE WAY I LOOK AT IT.

>> I THINK IF YOU PUT NOTHING THERE, YOU'RE JUST GOING TO HAVE FAMILIES NOT COME BECAUSE THERE'S NOTHING THERE.

I WOULD JUST NOT GO IF THERE'S NOTHING THERE FOR MY KIDS.

I WOULD BE LIKE, I'M NOT GOING TO GO TO THE EVENT, THERE'S NOTHING THERE FOR THEM.

I'M NOT GOING TO GO PLAY DOWN THERE.

I COME DOWN HERE AND WALK WITH A BIG GROUP A LOT WITH LITTLE KIDS AND STUFF AND TAKE THEM TO GET ICE CREAM AND THEY DO JUST CLIMB ON ALL THE THINGS.

THERE'S NOT ANYTHING FOR THEM TO DO, SO WE JUST GO OTHER PLACES.

BUT I THINK IF YOU TABLE IT TO LOOK AT TRAFFIC, YOU'LL PROBABLY LIKE, WELL, THERE'S NOT A LOT OF KIDS DOWN HERE.

WELL, THAT'S BECAUSE THERE'S NOTHING THERE FOR THEM.

I THINK THAT WE ALSO SHOULD REMEMBER THAT AS A BOARD, WHEN THIS PARK WAS PLANNED, WE VOTED UNANIMOUSLY TO HAVE A TRADITIONAL PLAYGROUND AT THE WATERFRONT.

>> I THOUGHT WE SAID SIMILAR STRUCTURE.

>> NO, IT WAS TRADITIONAL PLAYGROUND WAS THE EXACT WORDS IF YOU GO BACK AND WATCH.

ORIGINALLY, IT SAID PLAY STRUCTURE, AND WE HAD IT CHANGED IN THE RECOMMENDATION TO TRADITIONAL PLAYGROUND.

>> I WILL BE HONEST AND SAY I DID NOT TAKE IT THAT WAY.

>> I WAS VERY CLEAR IN THE MEETING, AND THAT'S HOW WE WE HAD LISA FINKELSTEIN REWORD IT TO TRADITIONAL PLAY STRUCTURE.

>> I GET WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.

I'M JUST TELLING YOU, I THINK IN MY MIND, I WAS NOT HEARING THAT THE WAY I'M HEARING IT OR SEEING IT NOW VISUALLY.

I WAS THINKING SOMETHING TO PLAY ON.

IN FACT, THE ONLY THING THAT I DID LIKE ABOUT THAT INITIAL THING THAT WAS WHATEVER YOU CALL IT WITH THE GLOBAL MOTION, I DON'T EVEN KNOW WHAT THAT THING WAS.

BUT WHAT I LIKED ABOUT IT WAS THAT IT VISUALLY WAS OPEN AND NOT REALLY DENSE AND NOT SUPER COMPLICATED.

THAT'S WHAT, IN MY MIND, I WAS AGREEING TO THAT IN THE WAY OF SOMETHING DOWN THERE.

>> DO ANY OF THESE FIT THE STRUCTURE PLAY THING?

>> I JUST FEEL LIKE, WHAT IS IT? SIX BLOCKS, SEVEN BLOCKS UP, WE HAVE A FULL ON PARK.

>> IT'S ABOUT A MILE. IF YOU'RE DOWN AT THE WATERFRONT, OR DOWN HERE FOR AN EVENT, OR DOWN HERE FOR DINNER REALLY, YOU'RE NOT GOING TO WALK THAT WITH LITTLE KIDS.

>> I GET THAT.

I JUST HAVE IMAGINED THIS PARK BEING, AGAIN, FOR CONCERTS DOWN THERE WHERE A LOT OF PEOPLE NOW WERE BLOCKING OFF PARKING LOTS TO DO THAT OR PUTTING UP STAGES.

NOW THERE'S A PLACE THAT WILL ALWAYS BE THERE.

>> BUT WHAT ABOUT ON THE DAYS THERE'S NOT A CONCERT? IF THERE'S TWO EVENTS IN A MONTH, WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO DO THE OTHER 28?

>> I WAS THINKING OF GOING DOWN AND HAVING DINNER.

>> YEAH, BUT FOR FAMILIES AND KIDS.

>> I'M JUST GOING TO SAY, COMING FROM WASHINGTON, DC, WE HAD THE ELLIPSE GOING FROM THE MONUMENT TO THE WHITE HOUSE, AND THAT'S A PARK AREA THAT WAS DESIGNATED BY THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT.

THERE'S NO PLAYGROUND EQUIPMENT ON ANY OF THAT AREA.

IT IS USED JUST FOR FAMILIES COME OUT THERE, THEY THROW THEIR BEACH BALLS, THEY'LL DO THAT KIND OF STUFF.

THEY BRING THEIR OWN STUFF TO ENTERTAIN THEIR KIDS.

THEY HAVE PICNICS ON THERE.

THEY SIT THERE, THEY ENJOY THE WATERFRONT.

IT DOESN'T DETERIORATE FROM WHAT WE'RE BUILDING OUT THERE.

IF ANYTHING, IT KEEPS IT WIDE OPEN.

WE'RE NOT JUST CONFINING KIDS TO ONE PARTICULAR AREA, AND THERE'S ALL THE OTHER SPOTS THAT ARE AVAILABLE FOR US TO DO THINGS WITH THESE KIDS.

MOST PARENTS, AND I THINK I TALK FOR YOU TOO, YOU BRING SOME OTHER TOYS ALONG WITH YOU,

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>> I FEEL LIKE THEY COULD STILL DO ALL THAT AND STILL HAVE THE PLAY STRUCTURE.

MY FAMILY WALKS DOWN THERE ALL THE TIME TO SEE THE BOATS, AND THEN IT'S NICE IF YOU HAVE KIDS AND YOU GET ENERGY OUT TO ALSO HAVE SOMEWHERE TO PLAY SAFELY.

>> IT'S ALSO NICE FOR PEOPLE WHO ARE VISITING WHO MIGHT NOT HAVE THINGS WITH THEM.

>> ONE THING WE ALL AGREE THAT WE WANT SOMETHING THERE.

I'M REALLY NOT A FAN.

ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I LOVE IS THE CIRCLE DESIGN AND THEN TAKING THAT AWAY FROM THE LARGEST CIRCLE.

I'M NOT A FAN OF EXPANDING IT, AND THEN THE COSTS WOULD BE MY MAIN REASON FOR NOT WANTING TO EXPAND IT.

>> I HAVE ONE PERSON THAT WOULD LIKE TO TALK.

>> YOU ALL ANSWERED ALL OF MY QUESTIONS. THANK YOU.

>> YOU GOT IT. THANK YOU.

DO WE HAVE A MOTION ON THE FLOOR? DO I HAVE A SECOND?

>> I CAN HAVE A SECOND.

>> I SECOND IT.

>> WE CAN CALL THE VOTE.

>> CAN YOU REMIND ME OF THE MOTION?

>> WELL, IF NOBODY LIKES THE LIGHTHOUSE, WE CAN AMEND THE MOTION.

BUT WHAT IS THE OPTION THEN?

>> I REALLY LIKED THE SHIPWRECK THEME THAT YOU SHOWED PREVIOUSLY, SOMETHING LIKE THAT, WHERE IT'S MORE JUST LIKE SOUTH BEACH.

I HAD MORE OF A BEACHY THEME TO IT.

>> YES, THAT VISUAL THAT WE SAW, IT WAS A LARGE EXPANDED AREA.

CAN YOU CONDENSE IT? ABSOLUTELY. WE WOULD HAVE TO SEE WHERE THOSE PIECES WOULD FALL WITHIN THAT FOOTPRINT OF 27 FEET.

THE PICTURE WITH THE SHIPWRECKED HAD A LOT OF POUR IN PLAY.

THE STRUCTURES WERE NOT VERY TALL, SO FALL ZONES WOULD NOT BE THAT BIG.

THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WE COULD LOOK INTO.

BUT I THINK WE CALL THE VOTE UNLESS SOMEONE WANTS TO AMEND THE MOTION.

THEN AT THAT POINT, THERE CAN BE ANOTHER MOTION.

>> CAN I SAY ONE OTHER THING? IF THE GOAL IS TO GET YOUNG FAMILIES DOWN TO THE WATERFRONT, THIS WILL ACHIEVE THAT.

WITHOUT THIS, I DON'T THINK YOU'LL GET WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT, THE FAMILIES GOING AND THROWING BALLS AND THAT KIND OF STUFF.

YOU'LL GET A LITTLE BIT OF IT, BUT YOU DON'T.

WE HAVE YOUNG KIDS, BUT THEY'RE OLDER NOW.

THEY JUST WANT STUFF LIKE THIS TO DO, AND PARENTS WANT TO GO OUT AND DO STUFF WITH KIDS, AND THIS KIND OF DOES THAT.

>> JUST TO COUNTER THAT ARGUMENT IS THAT YOU'RE SAYING IT WOULD BE LIKE IF YOU WERE COMING DOWN AND WAITING FOR DINNER AND GETTING DINNER, AND THAT'S WHY YOU WOULD BE THERE.

IF YOU'RE GOING TO FULLY GO AND PLAY AT A PARK, YOU'RE GOING TO GO TO CENTRAL PARK FOR PLAY.

IF YOU'RE THERE, WE GO TO ALL THE PARKS.

IT DEPENDS ON THE DAY.

IF YOU WANTED TO COME WATCH SUNSET, I ACTUALLY PREFER NOT TO GO TO CENTRAL PARK SOMETIMES BECAUSE IT DOES JUST GET SO BUSY.

>> I THINK THIS PARK IS GOING TO BE BUSY, ESPECIALLY WHEN IT'S HIGH SEASON, BECAUSE ALL OF THE TOURISTS ARE GOING TO WANT TO BE THERE BECAUSE REALLY NOW THE ONLY PLACE YOU CAN COMFORTABLY LOOK AT THE BOATS IS ON THE DOCK.

THEN THAT'S CLOSED OFF TO SOME DEGREE WITH THE BOATS AND HOW YOU CAN EVEN ACCESS THAT.

I THINK THERE'S GOING TO BE MORE PEOPLE DOWN THERE JUST SITTING AND WATCHING THE SUNSET AND THOSE THINGS.

I DON'T THINK THE DRIVE OF THE PARK ITSELF IS TO GET JUST YOUNG FAMILIES.

I THINK IT'S TO BE FOR ALL PEOPLE OF ALL AGES.

>> BUT I THINK THAT HAVING SOMETHING THAT'S A LITTLE BIT MORE FOR THE KIDS AND CAN HANDLE MORE THAN JUST A FEW KIDS AND MORE OF AN AGE RANGE.

YOU'RE GOING TO GET THE PEOPLE WHO WANT TO SIT AND HAVE A QUIET PICNIC, THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE THAT ABILITY IN PARTS OF THE PARK WHERE YOU DON'T NOW HAVE EIGHT-YEAR-OLD BOYS JUMPING OFF WALLS BECAUSE THERE'S NOT ANYTHING THAT THEY CAN DO.

THERE'S AN AREA THAT IS FOR KIDS, AND IT'S NOT THAT BIG OF AN AREA.

>> IF YOU LOOK AT THE MAP IN WHERE THE PLAYGROUND WOULD BE, IT'S A VERY SMALL PERCENTAGE DEDICATED JUST FOR KIDS.

THE REST OF IT IS FOR ALL THE OTHER THINGS THAT WE'RE SAYING FOR PEOPLE TO HAVE.

>> I'M IMAGINING THAT SINCE THE GRASS LAWN IS TO THE SOUTH, THAT FOR EVENTS, THAT'S WHERE THEY'RE GOING TO FACE, THAT'S WHERE PEOPLE ARE GOING TO BE.

THERE'S NOT REALLY A LOT OF SPACE FOR CHAIRS.

THERE'S A LITTLE BIT, BUT I'M IMAGINING A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE GOING TO BE THAT WAY.

THEN YOU HAVE A SPACE FOR THE KIDS TO GO AND THE PARENTS WITH KIDS FOR THOSE EVENTS.

[00:45:05]

>> MAYBE CAN WE CHUNK THIS INTO TWO PIECES AND MAYBE PUT IT INTO THE EXPAND OR NOT PORTION.

THEN BECAUSE IF THERE IS NO EXPANSION, WE JUST NEED TO GO IN A DIFFERENT DIRECTION OF THE TWO OPTIONS WE HAVE OR THE ONE OPTION WE'VE BEEN GIVEN TO FIT IN AN EXPANSION.

>> THERE'S A MOTION AND A SECOND.

CHAIR CAMERA, IF YOU DON'T MIND, I THINK THERE'S BEEN DISCUSSION, AND I THINK AT THIS YOU CALLED THE VOTE.

IF SOMEONE WANTS TO MAKE AN AMENDMENT TO THIS MOTION, AND IS IT ACCEPTED.

>> DO WE DO THAT AFTER THE VOTE OR WE AMEND IT?

>> WE CAN AMEND IT BEFORE THE VOTE.

>> BEFORE THE VOTE, YES.

>> I WOULD AMEND IT AND SAY EXPANDING, BUT I WOULD EXPAND AND USE THE VOTE THAT WE HAVE.

THEN I'M HAPPY TO LOOK AT OTHER OPTIONS FOR THE LIGHTHOUSE BECAUSE I AGREE THAT I DON'T THINK IT DOES.

>> I HAVE ONE MORE COMMENT TOO BECAUSE I SEE WHAT YOU'RE SAYING ABOUT ALL THE CIRCLES AND THE PATTERN.

THAT DOES MAKE SENSE WITH THE LIGHTHOUSE BECAUSE IT WOULD HAVE THE WALL, BUT IT LOOKS LIKE THIS ONE WOULD JUST BE AN OPEN AREA.

IT WOULDN'T TO ME LOOK AS OFF BALANCE BECAUSE IT WOULDN'T HAVE THE WALL AROUND IT, SO IT WOULDN'T THROW IT OFF.

>> THE WALL WOULD HAVE TO BE REMOVED.

>> YEAH. IT WOULDN'T LOOK OUT.

>> ULTIMATELY, THOUGH, THE QUESTION BEFORE YOU IS, REALLY WHEN IT COMES DOWN TO IT, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, IS YOUR RECOMMENDATION GOING TO BE EXPAND OR NOT TO EXPAND? THEN PARKS AND RECREATION STAFF IS GOING TO HAVE TO WORK ON WHAT'S GOING TO GO IN THAT PLACE AND MAKE THAT RECOMMENDATION.

ONCE AGAIN, IT'S A RECOMMENDATION TO THE CITY COMMISSION. THAT'S WHAT IT IS.

>> I WANTED TO MAKE A MOTION TO AMEND YOUR MOTION TO NOT EXPAND AND TO FIND A PLAY STRUCTURE THAT FITS WITHIN THE 27TH.

MY MOTION IS TO EXPAND.

[OVERLAPPING] NO, I WANT TO EXPAND.

>> I UNDERSTAND.

>> WITH THIS BEING SAID IS, WE'RE GOING TO CALL THE VOTE ON HER MOTION.

>> OKAY.

>> WE'RE GOING TO SEE WHERE IT COMES OUT.

IF IT FAILS, THEN YOU CAN MAKE ANOTHER MOTION.

>> I THOUGHT WE CAN AMEND THE MOTION.

>> WELL, RIGHT. BUT YOU'RE AMENDING IT TO THE OPPOSITE OF WHAT SHE IS SUGGESTING.

>> WHAT'S THE MOTION GOING TO BE?

>> CHAIR CAMERA WOULD YOU PLEASE CALL THE VOTE.

>> I'M GOING TO READ MISS MOUNTJOY'S MOTION SO THAT EVERYONE UNDERSTANDS WHAT YOU'RE GOING TO VOTE ON.

IF YOU WANT TO MAKE AN AMENDMENT TO YOURS, THEN YOU CAN OUT.

YOU MADE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE ROBELLINI STRUCTURE AND EXPAND THE AREA.

IF COMMISSION IS NOT WILLING TO STAY WITHIN THE SAME FOOTPRINT OF THE EXPANSION, THEN YOU WOULD LIKE TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE LIGHTHOUSE.

>> I'M OKAY TAKING THE LIGHTHOUSE PART OUT, BECAUSE I THOUGHT WE HAD TO PICK ONE OF THESE.

IF WE CAN WORK ON OTHER THINGS, THEN I'M HAPPY JUST TO EXPAND AND DO THE ROBELLINI STRUCTURE.

WE CAN LOOK AT FUNDING OPTIONS OR EVEN DONATIONS TO COVER IT IF WE NEED TO OR MAYBE THERE'S A CHEAPER OPTION TO GET IT CLOSER TO THE BUDGET.

BUT I'M IN FAVOR OF EXPANDING TO A PLAY STRUCTURE THAT CAN ENCOMPASS ALL AGES.

>> DO WE NEED A SECOND TO THAT?

>> DO YOU SECOND THAT?

>> I DO HAVE A QUESTION.

THE MOTION INCLUDES SPECIFICALLY THE ROBELLINI STRUCTURE THOUGH, CORRECT?

>> YES.

>> SO WE WOULD BE VOTING ON EXPANDING AND APPROVING THE ROBELLINI STRUCTURE AS IT IS HERE?

>> IT'S JUST THIS IDEA.

THEY CAN ALWAYS AMEND LITTLE THINGS ONCE THEY GO TO BUY IT, BUT THE IDEA OF THE SHIP.

[OVERLAPPING] MAYBE NOT THAT EXACT.

>> IT'S THE EXPANSION AND THE ADDITIONAL EXPENSE OF THAT.

>> THEN IF THE RECOMMENDATION AT THAT TIME, AND THAT'S SOMETHING THAT THEY'RE NOT GOING TO DO, MEMBER MOUNTJOY IS SUGGESTING THAT THEN WE FIND A PIECE, SOMETHING DIFFERENT THAN THE LIGHTHOUSE THAT WOULD FIT WITHIN THE EXISTING FOOTPRINT.

THAT'S THE MOTION.

IT'S SECONDED BY MEMBER CURRY.

THEN I BELIEVE YOU CALL THE VOTE.

>> CALL THE THE VOTE.

>> MEMBERS SPAULDING?

>> NO.

>> MEMBER PEARLSTINE?

>> NO.

>> MEMBER COCCHI?

>> NO.

>> MEMBER GUNN?

>> YES.

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>> MEMBER CURRY?

>> YES.

>> COMMISSIONER MOUNTJOY?

>> YES.

>> MEMBER CAMERA?

>> NO.

>> THAT FAILS 4-3.

>> IS THERE ANOTHER MOTION ON THE FLOOR?

>> I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO FIND A PLAY STRUCTURE THAT FITS IN THE EXISTING 27 FOOT FOOTPRINT THAT COULD ACCOMMODATE AS MANY AGE RANGES AS POSSIBLE.

>> DO WE HAVE TO HAVE SOMETHING [OVERLAPPING]

>> I DON'T KNOW THAT TIME LIMIT, BUT PARKS & RECREATION STAFF, IF THIS WERE TO MOVE FORWARD AND BE APPROVED RIGHT NOW, PARKS & RECREATION STAFF WOULD WORK WITH THE CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE ON WHAT WE COULD POSSIBLY FIT IN THERE.

>> BUT I THINK WE ALSO HAD DISCUSSED, OR MAYBE I MADE THIS UP.

DIDN'T JEREMIAH SAY THAT WHATEVER WE WERE PUTTING DOWN DIDN'T NECESSARILY HAVE TO GO IN WITH THE STUFF THAT THEY ARE CURRENTLY DOING RIGHT NOW? OF COURSE, IT'S ADVANTAGEOUS TO GET IT ORDERED SOONER THAN LATER, BUT THAT NOTHING'S BEING HELD UP IF WE OPERATE WITHIN THE EXISTING FOOTPRINT, LIKE WE COULD WORK THROUGH AND ORDER THE RIGHT THING.

>> YEAH, PARKS & RECREATION STAFF WOULD WORK WITH JEREMIAH AND THE STAFF MANAGING THAT PROJECT ON WHAT WOULD GO THERE AND WHAT WOULD FIT THERE.

EXACTLY. WE DON'T HAVE A TIMETABLE, BUT I THINK IT'S WISE TO WORK ON IT AND MOVE IT FORWARD AS SOON AS POSSIBLE.

>> IF THIS WERE TO PASS, WOULD THE PLAY STRUCTURE THAT YOU GUYS SELECT COME BACK TO US, OR WOULD YOU GUYS JUST PICK SOMETHING?

>> WELL, WE HAVE A MOTION AND WE NEED A SECOND REALLY BEFORE WE HAVE DISCUSSION.

DOES ANYONE WANT TO SECOND MISS COCCHI'S MOTION?

>> I'LL SECOND IT.

>> DISCUSSION.

>> I THINK AT THAT POINT, ANY PLAY STRUCTURE THAT IS PUT DOWN THERE, SOMEONE'S GOING TO HAVE OPINIONS ON IT, JUST LIKE THESE THAT WERE DISCUSSED.

I THINK AT THAT POINT, IT WOULD BE WISE JUST FOR PARKS AND RECREATION STAFF, NOW YOU'RE THE ADVISORY BOARD, IF IT'S SOMETHING THAT YOU WANT TO SEE COME BACK TO YOU, THEN WE BRING IT BACK TO YOU.

I THINK THAT WE CAN TAKE YOUR MARCHING ORDERS AND FIND SOMETHING THAT FITS WITHIN THE BUDGET AND COULD INCORPORATE IT WITHIN THE PROJECT.

IF YOU'RE TELLING ME THAT YOU WANT TO SEE IT, THEN YOU WILL SEE IT.

>> I TRUST YOU GUYS' JUDGMENT, BUT I THINK BECAUSE OF, I DON'T WANT TO CALL IT DIVISION, BUT OBVIOUSLY IT'S A DIFFERENCE OF OPINION IN WHAT SHOULD BE.

AGAIN, I FEEL HARD AND FAST ABOUT NOT EXPANDING THE SPACE, BUT I WOULD TOTALLY WELCOME THE IDEA FOR YOU GUYS TO LOOK AT SOMETHING, YOU OBVIOUSLY HAVE THE GOOD PERSPECTIVE. [OVERLAPPING]

>> I DON'T FEEL LIKE IF WE DON'T EXPAND THE SPACE, THAT WHAT WE LOOK AT IS GOING TO BE SOMETHING THAT'S GOING TO SATISFY THE PEOPLE WHO ARE NOT IN WHO ARE IN SUPPORT OF EXPANDING, YOU'RE NOT GOING TO GET ANYTHING LIKE A BOAT OR ANY BIGGER THAN THAT.

I'VE TALKED TO SEVERAL PLAYGROUND COMPANIES.

YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE SOMETHING REALLY SMALL JUST BECAUSE OF THE FALL ZONES.

YOU'RE NOT GOING TO GO OVER A 5A DRINK.

THE FALL ZONES ARE JUST TOO BIG.

THE 27-FOOT CIRCLE REALLY LIMITS WHAT YOU CAN DO.

>> THEN YOU WOULD SUPPORT THEM FOR PARKS AND REC, JUST MAKING THE DECISION ABOUT WHAT GOES IN?

>> YEAH. IF WE CAN'T EXPAND, THEN IT'S JUST DELAYING THE PROCESS, I THINK, FOR IT TO COME BACK FOR US WHEN YOU'RE NOT GOING TO GET A BOAT OR SOMETHING.

I THINK IT'S GOING TO BE PRETTY SMALL.

I THINK IT'S GOING TO BE SOMETHING ALONG THE LINES OF THE LIGHTHOUSE, MAYBE NOT LOOK, BUT I THINK IT'S GOING TO BE PRETTY SIMILAR FROM WHAT THE FALL ZONE RESEARCH I'VE DONE.

>> OR GOING BACK TO THE SUBMERGED SHIP.

>> BUT SOME OF THOSE PIECES HAD FALL ZONES, AND ONCE YOU START SEPARATING THEM, YOU REALLY COULDN'T GET VERY MANY OF THEM BECAUSE THEY HAD TO BE FIVE FEET FROM THIS ONE AND FIVE FEET FROM THE WALL AND FOUR FEET, SO THEN YOU CAN HAVE MAYBE TWO LITTLE PIECES THAT WERE PRETTY SMALL.

BECAUSE THEY ALL HAVE THEIR OWN RADIUS CIRCUMFERENCE AROUND THEM.

WHEN YOU START PUTTING THOSE TOGETHER, IF THEY'RE SIX FEET, EIGHT FEET, YOU'RE LIKE, NOW WE HAVE NOTHING.

>> CAN I JUST THROW OUT ONE RANDOM THOUGHT? THE THINGS THAT YOU'VE SEEN IN MUSEUM PARKS WITH THE WATER SHOOTING OUT OF THE GROUND?

>> A FOUNTAIN?

>> WE CAN CHOOSE ANOTHER ONE. NOT A FOUNTAIN.

>> A SPLASH PAD?

>> SLASH PAD.

>> YES.

>> JACK, BE THANKFUL YOU'VE MISSED THOSE DISCUSSIONS.

[LAUGHTER]

>> NO.

>> WE'LL TALK ABOUT THAT WHEN WE'RE OFF THE BOARD, HAVE A BEER. [LAUGHTER]

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>> THERE IS A MOTION. THERE IS A SECOND.

USE THE EXISTING FOOTPRINT AND STAY WITHIN THE EXISTING BUDGET. WOULD YOU LIKE TO ADD? [OVERLAPPING]

>> SORRY, CAN WE CONTINUE THE CONVERSATION JUST FOR A MINUTE ON THAT? IF WE DON'T EXPAND, IS IT EVEN WORTH ANY PLAYGROUND TO YOU?

>> THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION.

I THINK WE WOULD BE STRUGGLING TO FIT SOMETHING INTO A SPACE THAT MIGHT NOT SATISFY ANYBODY BECAUSE THEY'RE GOING TO BE. [OVERLAPPING]

>> YOU DON'T LIKE IT, AND YOU GUYS WANTED THE OPEN SPACE.

DO YOU THINK SOMETHING WORKS?

>> I STILL LIKE THE IDEA OF MAKING YOUR OWN FUN.

MAYBE PUT IN A BIG CHECKERBOARD AND KIDS COULD JUMP AROUND ON OR A PLACE TO DRAW WITH CHALK.

[OVERLAPPING]

>> A SPLASH PAD?

>> NOT A SPLASH PAD. [LAUGHTER]

>> I DON'T THINK YOU'D GET AN ARGUMENT FROM ANY OF THE TAXPAYERS ABOUT SAVING THE MONEY OF THE PLAY STRUCTURE, BUT TO YOUR POINT. [OVERLAPPING]

>> MEMBER MOUNTJOY, DO YOU THINK IT'S EVEN WORTH?

>> I THINK IT'S WORTH IT, AND I REALLY THINK IT'S GOING TO MAKE THAT PARK A PRETTY BIG DISAPPOINTMENT TO HAVE NOTHING, AND I THINK THAT PUTTING A SMALLER STRUCTURE IN IS GOING TO BE A BIG DISAPPOINTMENT.

BUT THAT'S JUST MY OPINION.

[OVERLAPPING] I GREW UP HERE, AND I'VE SPENT A LOT OF TIME DOWN AT THE WATERFRONT OVER MY LIFE AND GROWING UP.

I THINK YOU'RE JUST ASKING FOR KIDS TO PLAY ON THINGS THEY SHOULDN'T.

I THINK YOU'RE GOING TO GET PARENTS WHO AREN'T WATCHING THEIR KIDS.

YOU HAVE KIDS JUMPING OFF AND PLAYING ON THINGS THEY SHOULDN'T, AND THEN IT TAKES AWAY SOME OF THE ENJOYMENT OF THE OTHER PEOPLE IN THE PARK WHO MAYBE CAME DOWN THERE FOR A PEACEFUL SUNSET.

NOW YOU JUST HAVE KIDS RUNNING AROUND BECAUSE THERE'S NOWHERE FOR THEM TO GO.

YOU'LL HAVE PARENTS WHO WILL DRAW WITH CHALK AND DO THAT, THAT'S GREAT, I DO THAT WITH MY KIDS A LOT, BUT THEN YOU HAVE A LOT OF PARENTS WHO THEY JUST DON'T WATCH THEIR KIDS.

THAT THEY'RE GOING TO BE JUMPING OFF THE WALLS, CLIMBING THINGS, RUNNING AROUND ON ALL THE THINGS THAT THEY SHOULDN'T BE.

A SMALL PLAYGROUND, YOU COULD BE ASKING FOR INJURIES OF OLDER KIDS ON IT WITH LITTLE KIDS, SO I THINK SOMETHING'S BETTER THAN NOTHING, BUT I THINK IT'S GOING TO BE A DISAPPOINTMENT.

YOU'RE ALREADY SPENDING THAT MUCH MONEY AND PUTTING THAT MUCH INTO A REALLY NICE PART, TO NOT MAKE IT FOR EVERYBODY AND FOR ALL THE AGES.

ESPECIALLY IF YOU'RE JUST TAKING AWAY SOME GRASS THAT THERE'S A TON OF GRASS, AND IT'S PROBABLY GOING TO BE A MAINTENANCE.

LOOK AT THE GRASS NOW.

>> MEMBER COCCHI, I'M SORRY.

WOULD YOU LIKE TO PROCEED WITH YOUR MOTION AS STAYING WITHIN THE SAME FOOTPRINT AND WITHIN THE SAME BUDGET, OR DO YOU WANT TO AMEND IT, AS SOME PEOPLE HAD MENTIONED, TO NOT PUT ANY PLAY STRUCTURE THERE?

>> I DON'T THINK NOTHING IS THE RIGHT ANSWER.

I FEEL LIKE THERE'S GOT TO BE SOME MIDDLE TO THAT, AND I FEEL LIKE THE FIRST MOTION WAS EXPAND IT AND SPEND MORE MONEY, WHICH I'M NOT IN FAVOR OF, SO NO, I DON'T WANT TO SAY NOTHING.

I DO NOT WANT TO AMEND THAT NOW.

>> THE MOTION WOULD BE TO STAY WITHIN THE SAME FOOTPRINT WITHIN THE SAME BUDGET?

>> YES.

>> IF YOU COULD STAY WITHIN THE BUDGET BUT EXPAND IT, WOULD THAT BE SOMETHING THAT THE BOARD WOULD NOMINATE?

>> I DO NOT LIKE THE EXPANSION.

THAT'S JUST MY PERSONAL.

I HAVE NOT SUPPORTED THAT AT ALL.

>> THAT'S THE MOTION. I BELIEVE MEMBER PEARLSTINE, I BELIEVE YOU HAD SECONDED THAT.

IS THERE ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION, OR DO YOU WANT TO CALL THE VOTE, CHAIR CAMERA?

>> I'D LIKE TO CALL THE VOTE.

>> EXISTING STRUCTURE. [OVERLAPPING]

>> I CAN MAKE IT. A MOTION TO FIND A PLAY STRUCTURE THAT FITS IN THE CURRENT 27-FOOT FOOTPRINT THAT CAN ACCOMMODATE AS MANY AGE RANGES AS POSSIBLE.

>> STAYS WITHIN BUDGET. DID YOU SAY THAT?

>> YES, WITH BUDGETS FUND.

IN BUDGETS PREFERRED.

[LAUGHTER]

>> MEMBER PEARLSTINE, DID YOU SECOND THAT MOTION?

>> YEAH.

>> THERE'S A VOTE AND A SECOND?

>> YEAH. MEMBER SPAULDING?

>> YES.

>> MEMBER PEARLSTINE?

>> YES.

>> MEMBER COCCHI?

>> YES.

>> MEMBER GUNN?

>> IF WE CAN EXPAND, YES. IT'S A YES.

>> [OVERLAPPING] NO, THIS IS NOT TO EXPAND.

>> THAT'S NOT THE MOTION.

>> IF WE CANNOT EXPAND, THEN YES, I SUPPORT THIS.

>> YES?

>> YEAH.

>> MEMBER CURRY?

>> YES.

>> VICE-CHAIR MOUNTJOY?

>> YES.

>> CHAIR CAMERA?

>> YES.

[01:00:01]

>> THAT PASSES.

>> I'LL LOOK FORWARD TO WHAT YOU GUYS FIND.

>> THERE ARE A FAIR NUMBER OF CITIES WITH WATERFRONT PARKS.

I WONDER IF WE COULD LOOK INTO OTHER PLACES WHERE THEY'VE DONE SOMETHING SIMILAR, LIKE THEY TRIED TO PUT A PLAYGROUND IN THE WATERFRONT AREA.

NOW I'M TRYING TO ORGANIZE SOME PEOPLE.

>> WE'RE ON STAFF UPDATES.

>> YEAH.

>> DID I STEAL YOURS?

[7. STAFF COMMENTS]

>> NUMBER 7, STAFF COMMENTS.

>> IN THE STAFF COMMENTS, YOU GUYS HAD ATTACHED THE PROJECT UPDATE IN THE PROGRAM FORUM.

JUST GOING THROUGH THIS, IT LOOKS LIKE KATIE HAS THIS UP ON THE SCREEN.

THE ATLANTIC RECREATION CENTER FACADE REPAIRS HAVE BEEN COMPLETED.

I WANTED TO THANK THE FACILITY MAINTENANCE TEAM ON THAT.

THEY REALLY DID WORK AND COMPLETE THAT PROJECT.

IT WAS OUTSOURCED, BUT THEY WERE THE ONES HANDLING THAT.

NORTH BEACH PARK.

NORTH BEACH PARK, THE GOAL IS TO HAVE COMPLETED BY SHRIMP FEST WEEKEND.

THIS WILL INCLUDE THE BOARDWALK, THE TWO ROOFS AT THE GAZEBOS, TWO NEW PICNIC TABLES, AND THEN THERE WAS SOME GRADING ISSUES WHERE THE CARS PARKED.

WE'RE GOING TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT'S GRADED, AND WE'RE ALSO GOING TO MAKE SURE THAT THERE'S NO POOLING OF THE WATER WHEN IT RAINS.

IT HAD BEEN POOLING UP THERE.

THEN, FOLLOWING THAT, WE'RE GOING TO PROCEED WITH DOING THE BOARDWALK REPAIR AT WHAT I AM CALLING THE JEAN LAFITTE BOARDWALK, SO WE'LL MOVE ON TO THAT.

THE THIRD AND FINAL PHASE OF THE SKATE PARK REHABILITATION.

THIS WAS MONEY THAT WAS BUDGETED PREVIOUSLY, AND WE HAVE BEEN WORKING ON FABRICATING THAT, SO I WANTED TO THANK THE PARKS AND RECREATION STAFF.

THAT'S GOING TO TAKE PLACE AT THE END OF APRIL, SO THAT PROJECT WILL BE COMPLETED.

ATLANTIC CENTER WINDOW REPLACEMENT IS COMMENCING IN APRIL.

I WANTED TO THANK THE FACILITY MAINTENANCE TEAM ON THAT. THEY'RE HANDLING THAT.

HICKORY STREET BATHROOMS. I WANTED TO THANK UTILITY DEPARTMENT AND THE FACILITY MAINTENANCE DEPARTMENT.

EVERYTHING IS SET TO GO.

WE'RE JUST GOING TO BE WAITING ON THE SHIPMENT.

THE UTILITY DEPARTMENT AND THE STORMWATER TEAM HAS ASSISTED GREATLY, AND THE FACILITY MAINTENANCE TEAM HAS REALLY ASSISTED US AS WELL. I WANTED TO THANK THEM.

THE BATTING CAGES AT CENTRAL PARK.

IT'S GOING TO START AT THE END OF APRIL.

DEMO IS APRIL 23RD, 24TH, AND 25TH, AND THEN THERE IS A LOCAL CONTRACTOR WHO WILL START IN MAY BUILDING THOSE.

THE MEN'S LOCKER ROOM AT THE ATLANTIC RECREATION CENTER.

WE RECEIVED THOSE BIDS, AND WE HAVE ENOUGH MONEY IN THE BUDGET TO PROCEED WITH THAT, SO THAT IS GOING TO BE COMMENCING HERE SHORTLY.

THEN, OBVIOUSLY, THE COMMUNITY CONNECTION, A LIST OF ALL OF OUR PROGRAMS WERE INCLUDED.

I REALLY WANTED TO THANK THE PARKS AND RECREATION STAFF.

THIS PAST WEEKEND, I DON'T KNOW IF ANY OF YOU REALIZE, IT WAS A BEAUTIFUL WEEKEND OUT.

THE WEATHER WAS AMAZING.

CENTRAL PARK, WE HAD EASTER EGG HUNT.

I BELIEVE, KATIE, AND THERE WAS 800 PEOPLE THERE, OR ESTIMATED 800, IS THAT CORRECT?

>> YEAH, I COUNTED ALL OF THEM.

[LAUGHTER] THERE WERE A LOT OF PEOPLE.

>> THERE WERE A LOT OF PEOPLE. WE HAD A GREAT TURNOUT.

THERE WAS PETANQUE GOING ON, THERE WAS AN EASTER EGG HUNT GOING ON, AND THEN DOWN THE STREET AT THE ATLANTIC RECREATION CENTER, WE HAD A COMMUNITY YARD SALE.

>> WHICH WAS ALSO VERY SUCCESSFUL.

>> IT WAS. THEN UPCOMING EVENTS, AS ALWAYS.

THE PETANQUE ARE HAVING A TOURNAMENT, APRIL 12TH AND 13TH.

THERE'S ANOTHER OUTSIDE COMMUNITY EASTER EGG FESTIVAL, AND THAT'S KIND OF WHY WE RAN OURS A LITTLE BIT EARLIER, ARE COMING UP APRIL 12TH.

ELM STREET LITTLE LEAGUE IS HAVING AT CHARLES ELBERT FIELD PACK THE PARK, APRIL 19TH.

THAT IS THROUGH ELM STREET LITTLE LEAGUE.

SEA TURTLE FESTIVAL, MAINE BEACH, APRIL 19TH.

WHEELS AND WINGS IS AT THE AIRPORT, APRIL 26TH.

SAND SCULPTURE, A CONTEST AT MAINE BEACH, THE VOLLEYBALL COURTS, APRIL 26TH, AND THEN SHRIMP FESTIVAL.

AS WE ALL ARE AWARE, MAY 1ST-4TH, THE PARKS AND RECREATION DEPARTMENT IS GOING TO BE HAVING, I DON'T WANT TO SAY A FLOAT, BUT OUR TEAM IS GOING TO BE PARTICIPATING IN THE SHRIMP FESTIVAL PARADE,

[01:05:06]

>> ARE YOU GOING TO BE IN AN INFLATABLE SHRIMP?

>> POSSIBLY. [LAUGHTER] WE HAVE TALKED ABOUT THAT.

ON THE HORIZON DISCUSSIONS, WATERFRONT PARK ARTWORK, AND COLUMBARIUM AT BOSQUE BELLO CEMETERY.

THOSE ARE ITEMS THAT ARE GOING TO BE COMING TO YOU IN THE NEAR FUTURE, ALONG WITH OTHER ITEMS. OUR NEXT MEETING IS MAY 13TH.

KATIE, IF YOU DON'T MIND, AND WE LITERALLY JUST GOT THIS PICTURE OF THE PECK CENTER AUDITORIUM FLOORING.

>> [OVERLAPPING] WOW.

>> I'M SORRY, I NEED TO STEP CLOSE.

WE WORK VERY CLOSELY WITH FACILITY MAINTENANCE, SO THEIR TEAM DOES A LOT OF WORK FOR OUR FACILITIES.

OBVIOUSLY, WHEN WE GET PICTURES LIKE THIS, THEY'RE NOT COMPLETED, BUT THEY'RE REDOING THE FLOOR IN THERE.

WE DO WORK CLOSELY WITH THEM, AND I JUST THOUGHT THEY SHOULD BE RECOGNIZED.

A LOT OF OUR WORK HAS TO BE CONTRACTED OUT BECAUSE WE CAN'T DO ALL OF IT, SO THEY HAVE SCHEDULED THIS, AND I THOUGHT YOU GUYS WOULD REALLY LIKE THIS PICTURE.

>> WHAT COLOR ARE THEY STAINING THAT FLOOR?

>> I DON'T KNOW FOR SURE, BUT YES, IT'S GOING TO BE STAINED.

IT'S BEING BASICALLY SCRAPED RIGHT NOW TO EVEN IT OUT, SO THIS IS JUST THE FIRST PART OF IT.

THAT BUILDING IS AWESOME.

>> SCOTT, I HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT PETANQUE.

I KNOW BECAUSE THAT WAS DONE AT THE WATERFRONT PARK, AND THEY'VE GOT THAT NOW, THEY'VE STARTED WHATEVER THEY'RE DOING DOWN THERE, IT'S FENCED OFF.

THE BIG PETANQUE TOURNAMENT IN OCTOBER, IS THAT NOT HAPPENING?

>> THAT IS NOT HAPPENING.

>> IT'S NOT HAPPENING THIS YEAR?

>> THAT IS CORRECT.

>> ARE THEY GOING TO BE SLATED FOR NEXT YEAR? DO YOU KNOW IF THEY'RE PLANNING TO?

>> I DO NOT KNOW THE ANSWER TO THAT.

>> I WAS JUST CURIOUS.

>> THANKS KATIE FOR SHOWING THAT PICTURE.

THE PARKS CREW. WE HAVE DONE SOME PLANTING DOWNTOWN ON CENTER STREET.

HOPEFULLY YOU WILL NOTICE THAT.

THEN ALSO THE $8,000 DONATION BY MR. STAN JACKSON FOR THE BEAUTIFICATION AT EGAN'S CREEK PARK.

WE HAVE STARTED THAT, SO HOPEFULLY YOU GUYS CAN DRIVE BY EGAN'S CREEK PARK AND NOTICE SOME OF THE STUFF THAT WE ARE DOING.

HOPEFULLY I WILL BE ABLE TO ATTACH SOME PICTURES HERE SHORTLY AND SEND THEM OUT TO YOU.

>> WE'VE HAD SOME AMAZING VOLUNTEERS AT THE NATIVE PLANT POLLINATOR GARDEN AT EGAN'S CREEK PARK TOO.

IT'S REALLY SHAPING UP NICE.

THANKS TO PARKS AND REC FOR MOWING DOWN THE WEEDS AROUND US.

[LAUGHTER] THE GARDEN.

YOU SHOULD GO SEE, IT LOOKS NICE.

>> THEN THE UTILITIES DEPARTMENT IS DOING A LIFT STATION RELOCATION THERE AT EGAN'S.

THERE ARE STILL A FEW MORE PIECES THAT HAVE TO BE REMOVED FROM THERE.

THEY'RE GOING WITHIN THE BLACK WROUGHT IRON FENCING AREA.

THERE'S JUST A FEW PIECES THAT ARE CLOSER TO THE MARSH THAT HAVE TO BE REMOVED YET.

AFTER THEY REMOVE THAT, THERE'LL BE SOME SIDEWALK REPAIR THAT WE'LL GO IN AND DO.

>> ARE ALL THE NEW WORKOUT EQUIPMENT PIECES IN AT THAT PARK?

>> YES. THERE'S ONE PIECE, I BELIEVE, RIGHT NOW THAT IS CAUTIONED OFF THAT THERE WAS A PIECE THAT BROKE, SO IT'S UNDER WARRANTY, SO WE'RE WORKING ON GETTING THAT.

>> MY SON WAS VERY CONCERNED ABOUT IT, AND I WAS LIKE, I DON'T KNOW.

[LAUGHTER] HE ALWAYS SEND HIS UPDATES TO SCOTT.

>> WE CAN TALK ABOUT IT. BUT WE ARE. [OVERLAPPING].

>> I WOULD LOVE TO.

>> THE PIECE WHAT WAS ORDERED WAS LATE

>> THEN JUST BEFORE I LEFT TO COME DOWN HERE, I ALSO GOT AN EMAIL ABOUT THE LED LIGHTS AT THE CENTRAL PARK TENNIS COURTS.

THEY'RE GOING TO BE I BELIEVE, SHIFT MAY 12.

THAT PROJECT WILL BE MOVING FORWARD.

WE'RE BASICALLY DOING A RETROFIT OF THE TENNIS S LIGHTS.

AND THEN ALSO EXCITING NEWS THAT THE EXISTING MLK SOFTBALL FIELDS, I DID GET A DESIGN IN HAND.

I AM MEETING. I HAVE SENT THAT DESIGN TO ELM STREET LITTLE LEAGUE FOR THEIR REVIEW.

I MET WITH THE PRESIDENT OF ELM STREET LITTLE LEAGUE, AND I BELIEVE SHE'S GOING TO PRESENT SOME OF THOSE IDEAS TO THEIR BOARD.

THEN I HAVE A MEETING WITH THE CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE TO GET A LITTLE BIT OF DIRECTION ON THIS.

THAT IS SOME EXCITING NEWS, A BIGGER PROJECT THAT WILL BE COMING TO YOU.

WE'RE IN THE BEGINNING PHASES, BUT IT HAS STARTED.

>> THAT WILL COME BEFORE US.

[01:10:03]

BUT NOW WE'RE MOVING FORWARD WITH THIS.

>> WELL, YEAH, WE'RE MOVING FORWARD AND WE'RE MOVING FORWARD SLOWLY.

THERE'S A LOT OF VETTING THAT HAS TO BE DONE.

I THINK WHAT'S IMPORTANT TO REMEMBER IS ELM STREET LITTLE LEAGUE HAS TO VET IT.

I BELIEVE OUR COMMUNITY HAS TO VET IT.

EVERYONE HAS TO BE AWARE SO THEY CAN GIVE THEIR OPINION AND THOUGHTS ON MOVING FORWARD.

IT WILL BE A PROCESS.

>> BUT WE'RE NOT WAITING ON YBOR THAT WAS WHERE I WAS GOING.

WE'RE NOT WAITING ON YBOR.

>> I HAVE BEEN ASKED TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS.

>> CAN I JUST ADD TWO THINGS? OF COURSE.

SUMMER CAMP REGISTRATION OPEN MONDAY.

WE HAVE 47 SPOTS FILLED ALREADY.

IT'S BEEN OPEN FOR TWO DAYS.

SO IT'S A REALLY EXCITING PROGRAM.

WE'VE REALLY COME AROUND.

WE'RE DOING A LOT MORE FIELD TRIPS THIS YEAR.

JUST SOMETHING TO IF ANYONE'S ASKING YOU, WE HAVE 60 SPOTS OPEN ALTOGETHER, SO NOT MANY LEFT, BUT OUR CITY RESIDENTS REGISTRATION ENDED TODAY, AND THEN WE'RE GOING TO BE MOVING INTO NON CITY.

THAT'S WHERE WE'RE AT FOR SUMMER CAMP.

THERE'S THE BROCHURE, OUR STAFF MADE, WHICH I'M VERY PROUD OF.

THEY DID SUCH A GOOD JOB.

>> NICE.

>> I THOUGHT I WAS THE FIRE MAKER, BUT SOMEONE'S OUT OUT TRYING ME.

THEN, MORE IMPORTANTLY, OUR SUMMER SWIM LESSONS REGISTRATION OPENED MONDAY AS WELL.

THE REALLY UNIQUE THING ABOUT OUR PROGRAM IS IF YOU'RE A NON SWIMMER AND YOU'RE THREE YEARS OR OLDER, LESSONS ARE FREE TO YOU IF YOU'RE A CITY RESIDENT.

IF YOU OUR FIRST TWO LEVELS, WHICH ARE THE MANATEE LEVEL AND THE SEA TURTLE LEVEL ARE FREE TO CITY RESIDENTS.

WE WANT OUR CITIZENS TO BE ABLE TO SWIM AND SAVE THEMSELVES.

THAT'S WHAT LEVEL 1 AND TWO ESSENTIALLY DO.

WHEN YOU GRADUATE FROM THE SEA TURTLE LEVEL, WHICH IS LEVEL 2, YOU ARE WATER SAFE.

YOU CAN JUMP INTO THE WATER, TURN AROUND, SWIM TO THE WALL.

YOU CAN ALSO BACKFLOW, WHICH IS THE MOST IMPORTANT PART.

I ENCOURAGE YOU TO GET THAT WORD OUT.

WE HAVE A LOT OF OPPORTUNITIES TO LEARN TO SWIM, AND WE WANT TO FILL THESE CLASSES AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE.

>> I HAVE A QUESTION I SAW.

WE'RE HIRING FOR THE SUMMER.

ARE YOU HIRING TEENAGERS?

>> YES, 15 YEARS OR OLDER.

IF YOU FOR A SUMMER CAMP, IT'S 15 YEARS OR OLDER.

YOU DON'T REALLY NEED MUCH EXPERIENCE.

WE'LL TRAIN YOU.

IF YOU WANT TO BE A LIFEGUARD THOUGH, YOU DO NEED SOME LIFEGUARD CERTIFICATION, WHETHER IT BE AMERICAN RED CROSS PROCESS, IT'S WHAT WE PREFER OR THERE'S A YMCA ONE.

SO IF THEY DON'T HAVE IT, WE ARE HAVING A CLASS IN APRIL THOUGH, SO JUST REACH OUT TO US IF WE CAN GET THEM.

>> IS THAT IT?

>> YES.

>> I JUST WANTED TO AND I APOLOGIZE.

I WANTED TO ADD UP ONE OTHER THING IS WE HAVE BEGUN THE BUDGET PROCESS.

>> AS YOU ARE SPEAKING TO [LAUGHTER].

>> JUST KIDDING.

>> I'LL STRESS OUT.

>> WHEN YOU'RE TALKING TO PEOPLE THROUGHOUT THE COMMUNITY, PLEASE ASK THEM QUESTIONS.

ANY INFORMATION THAT YOU FIND OUT, IF IT'S REGARDING OUR FEES, IF IT'S REGARDING ANYTHING THAT WE DO, PLEASE LET US KNOW. WE'RE OPEN.

WE WANT TO HAVE THOSE DISCUSSIONS.

I THINK THAT THAT'S PART OF YOUR RESPONSIBILITY TO HAVE THOSE CONVERSATIONS WITH THE COMMUNITY AND THE INDIVIDUALS THAT YOU SPEAK TO THROUGHOUT THE COMMUNITY. I JUST WANTED TO LET YOU KNOW.

>> SCOTT, BECAUSE WE HAVE SOME NEW PEOPLE ON THE BOARD.

THE NEW BUDGET STARTS IN OCTOBER.

>> OUR FISCAL YEAR STARTS OCTOBER 1, 2025, AND WOULD RUN THROUGH SEPTEMBER 30, 2026.

WE'RE HALFWAY THROUGH THE EXISTING BUDGET.

CAN YOU TELL US HOW WE WILL BE INVOLVED WITH YOU GUYS? ARE YOU GOING TO COME TO US WITH A PRIORITIES LIST OR HOW DO YOU ENVISION THAT GOING THIS YEAR? BECAUSE LAST YEAR IT WAS TRANSITIONING WASN'T IT?

>> IN THE VERY NEAR FUTURE HERE, I THINK WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO IS WE'RE GOING TO COME IN ESPECIALLY WITH THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLANS AND SAY, HERE'S OUR LIST OF IDEAS AND HOW WE HAVE THESE PLANNED OUT? AND THEN I THINK AT THAT POINT, IT'S, LIKE, YOU KNOW, DO YOU FOLLOW THIS AND DO YOU AGREE WITH THIS? DO YOU HAVE ITEMS THAT NEED TO THAT YOU FEEL SHOULD BE PUT IN THERE, AND THEN THAT LEADS TO OUR DISCUSSION.

I THINK MAYBE HERE IN THE NEAR FUTURE,

[01:15:01]

I THINK IT'S ALWAYS IMPORTANT TO HAVE AS MANY EYES ON THAT FEE SCHEDULE AS POSSIBLE.

YOU CAN GIVE US YOUR THOUGHTS ON THAT? MAYBE WE NEED TO LOWER SOME OF OUR FEES TO GET MORE PEOPLE INTO SOME OF OUR FACILITIES.

I THINK WE'RE OPEN TO THAT.

SO I MEAN, IF THOSE ARE SOME OF THE RECOMMENDATIONS YOU WOULD LIKE TO MAKE, I THINK WE HAVE THAT DISCUSSION THEN.

WOULD IT BE PRUDENT TO AS YOU'RE LOOKING AT WHEN THOSE MIGHT BE SCHEDULED, SINCE WE'RE ALREADY SCHEDULING THE MAY MEETING, THE SUMMER GOES BY FAST.

DO WE NEED A WORKSHOP MAYBE TO TALK ABOUT SOME OF THAT STUFF?

>> FOR THE BUDGET OR THE FEE SCHEDULE OR FOR BOTH?

>> FOR BOTH OR HOWEVER GOES THROUGH FIRST.

>> YOU'RE CORRECT. I APOLOGIZE. YES.

>> IF YOU WANTED TO DO A WORKSHOP, WE WOULD HAVE TO DO IT FOR THE BUDGET FIRST.

I DO THINK THOUGH, WE COULD PROBABLY PLAN A MEETING JUST A PRESENTATION FOR A MEETING.

>> I JUST WAS TRYING TO THINK PROACTIVELY LIKE BECAUSE EVERYBODY'S GOING TO BE TRAVELING, IF WE NEED TO ADD SOMETHING WHERE WE NEED MORE TIME.

>> I'M OPEN TO HAVING A WORKSHOP. I LIKE WORKSHOPS.

YOU CAN HAVE A MORE LITTLE BIT OF AN INFORMAL DISCUSSION, AND THEN THAT COMES BACK TO A FORMAL VOTE OR A FORMAL DISCUSSION AT ONE OF OUR REGULAR MEETINGS.

>> IF WE HAVE A BUDGET PRESENTATION, AND AT THAT POINT, WE THINK WE SHOULD HAVE A WORKSHOP.

CAN WE DO IT AFTER?

>> YES.

>> WE DON'T HAVE TO TALK BEFORE BEFORE WE GET THE INFORMATION?

>> I WAS SAYING, BUT IF WE HAVE IT SCHEDULED.

IF WE NEED THAT, WE'RE NOT SAYING, WE'LL HAVE TO DO THAT.

TRYING TO GET IT SCHEDULED LATER IS HARDER, I THINK THAT WAS MY POINT.

>> LET US LOOK AT THE CALENDAR, IF YOU DON'T MIND.

IF WE NEED TO PUSH A COUPLE OF THOSE ITEMS A LITTLE FURTHER BACK, LIKE THE COLUMN BARRIER DISCUSSION, IF WE WERE TO MOVE THAT BACK INTO, JULY OR SOMETHING.

I THINK THAT'S OKAY.

>> I WOULD MAKE A RECOMMENDATION BECAUSE I KNOW I'VE GOT TRAVEL COMING UP.

IF WE CAN DO WORKSHOPS IN THE SAME WEEK AS THE PRAC MEETING.

THEN YOU KNOW THAT WEEK, YOU NEED TO SET ASIDE. DOES THAT MAKE SENSE?

>> YES.

>> THAT MAKES A LOT OF SENSE FOR ME.

>> OR CAN WE HAVE A WORKSHOP PRIOR TO THE MEETING STARTING? IS THAT POSSIBLE?

>> I THINK ANY OF THAT STUFF IS POSSIBLE.

I THINK GOING WITH THE IDEA THAT HAVING THE MEETING SOMETIME DURING THE WEEK, WE'LL LOOK AT THAT AND WE'LL LOOK AT THE SCHEDULE BECAUSE IF YOU PLAN ON BEING HERE THE WEEK OF THE MEETING YOU'RE GOING TO BE HERE.

>> THAT JUST MAKES IT A LOT EASIER.

FOR ME JUST SAYING ASKING FOR A FRIEND.

>> BECAUSE I'M IN THE CLASS MISLEADING TOO.

>> GO AHEAD. DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING?

[8. BOARD MEMBER COMMENTS]

>> I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING.

>> I HAD TWO QUESTIONS OR THOUGHTS.

ONE, I GUESS IT WOULD BE ON THE FEE SCHEDULE.

IS THERE A WAY TO BUY, LIKE, A MONTHLY PASS, I GUESS, FOR RESIDENTS OR NON RESIDENTS TO THE SPLASH PADS? YOU'RE NOT PAYING FOR LIKE A WHOLE FAMILY LIKE FOUR DAYS.

IF YOU WANT TO GO MULTIPLE TIMES A WEEK, IT GETS EXPENSIVE IF YOU'RE LIKE AN ADULT AND THREE KIDS.

DO YOU HAVE TO BUY A WHOLE ACTIVITIES PASS? IS IT JUST FOR THE POOL? LIKE HOW DOES THAT?

>> YOU WOULD BUY FAMILY PASS.

YOU CAN DO MONTHLY FOR MONTH OR ANNUAL.

THAT WILL GET YOU INTO THE POOL AND THE SPLASH PADS.

>> IT WORKS AT EITHER POOLS?

>> EITHER POOLS

>> IS IT JUST YOUR WHOLE FAMILY.

>> IT'S HOUSEHOLD. THEN KATIE, WE HAD THIS DISCUSSION LAST SUMMER, BUT CAN YOU GUYS MAKE A SCHEDULE OF WHEN THE TWO SPLASH PADS ARE OPEN TO THE PUBLIC AND POST IT? BECAUSE I KNOW THERE WAS A LOT OF PROBLEMS LAST YEAR OF PEOPLE SHOWING UP IN AMERICA'S YOUTH WAS THERE.

I THINK THAT'S WHAT IT'S CALLED OR THEN THE CAMPS.

SOME DAYS THEY HAD IT RESERVED BUT WEREN'T THERE, WHICH I KNOW IT'S STILL THERE TIME, BUT IT WAS REALLY CONFUSING.

>> WE HAVE THAT IN THE WORK SO.

>> PERFECT.

>> MAYBE THE PLAYGROUNDS TOO, BECAUSE I KNOW THE ONES AT THE REC CENTER, WILL THEY BE CLOSED OFF DURING THE SUMMER ALL THE TIME, OR?

>> THE ONE AT THE REC CENTER, THE ONLY PLAYGROUND THAT GETS CLOSED IS THE ONE DIRECTLY BEHIND THE REC CENTER, AND THAT HAS TO BE CLOSED WHEN OUR CAMP IS OPEN; OUR CAMP IS OPEN 7:30 - 6:00 PM.

THAT WILL BE LOCKED MONDAY THROUGH FRIDAY, 730 TO SIX.

WE UNLOCK IT AT 6:00 PM.

IF YOU WANTED TO GO AFTERWARDS, AND THEN WEEKENDS, IT'S UNLOCKED, SO YOU CAN GO THERE AS WELL.

>> THANK YOU. I JUST KNOW WE TALKED ABOUT THAT LAST SUMMER.

>> I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING. I'M SORRY.

I MISSED A COUPLE OF MEETINGS, AND I APOLOGIZE FOR BEING LATE.

I'M TRYING TO GET A SWING OF THINGS.

IT'S NICE TO SEE ALL THESE FACES AGAIN.

>> I'VE GOT A COUPLE OF THINGS.

[01:20:01]

FIRST GAME STARTS AT 5:30.

THE SECOND GAMES AT 7:30.

IT'S THE SEMIFINAL DISTRICTS ARE BEING HELD THERE.

I THINK I'M CORRECT THAT THE MIDDLE SCHOOL IS 11 IN 1 OR 11 IN 2.

THEY'VE GOT A GREAT TEAM AND LOOKING FORWARD TO WINNING THE CHAMPIONSHIP AGAIN.

SECOND OF ALL, SCOTT, COULD YOU GIVE A SMALL SYNOPSIS ON THE LIGHTHOUSE AND WHAT HAPPENED LAST WEEK?

>> RIGHT NOW?

>> YEAH. BECAUSE IT IS AMAZING.

IF YOU DIDN'T GO, IT WAS GREAT.

>> WE HAD A GROUND BREAKING CEREMONY.

THANK YOU, KATIE, FOR HELPING.

>> DID YOU GUYS RECORD IT?

>> NO. [OVERLAPPING] YOU KNOW WHAT? WE NEED TO DO A BETTER JOB.

>> I WILL RECOMMEND A GUY TO YOU AND HE DOES DRONES, AND HE CAN VIDEO STUFF LIKE YOU GUYS SHOULD BE VIDEOING THAT STUFF FOR REAL.

>> I HEARD THE WAS THERE.

>> IT WAS VIDEOD.

[OVERLAPPING].

>> POSTED IT ON SOCIAL MEDIA.

I'LL GO LOOK FOR IT.

>> WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE DO A BETTER JOB OF MAKING SURE THAT YOU GUYS ARE AWARE OF THAT BECAUSE YOU KNOW WHAT? I'LL TAKE RESPONSIBILITY FOR THAT AND TO EVERY ONE OF THOSE THAT ARE REGARDING PARKS AND RECREATION, YOU SHOULD GET A FORMAL INVITE.

I APOLOGIZE IF YOU DO NOT.

THERE WAS A GROUNDBREAKING CEREMONY AT THE LIGHTHOUSE.

WITH GRANTS THROUGH THE FEDERAL AND STATE AND THE FLORIDA LIGHTHOUSE ASSOCIATION, WE'RE EMBARKING ON A MULTI YEAR PROJECT TO RENOVATE THE STRUCTURE AT THE LIGHTHOUSE.

THIS IS THE EXTERIOR STUCCO, THE MORTAR INSIDE THE EXISTING, AND I DON'T KNOW IF I BELIEVE ALL OF YOU HAVE BEEN THERE, BE MORTAR IS LITERALLY CRUMBLING, THE STEPS.

ALSO A THANK YOU TO LAURA JACOBS, OUR GRAND ADMINISTRATOR THAT HAS SECURED THESE FUNDS.

THIS IS THE FIRST OF, I THINK, THREE OR FOUR PHASES THAT WE WILL BE RENOVATING THE LIGHTHOUSE.

IT'S A MULTI MILLION DOLLAR PROJECT.

>> I WILL TELL YOU, JUST THE STARTING POINT OF THIS WHOLE PROJECT.

IT'S SO COOL TO GO OUT THERE AND LOOK AT IT.

>> YEAH, YOU CAN ACTUALLY SEE THE STANCHIONS FROM ATLANTIC AVENUE OVER THE MARSH.

YOU LOOK AT THE LIGHTHOUSE AND YOU NORMALLY SEE THE LIGHTHOUSE TAKING OUT NOW YOU CAN SEE THE STANCHIONS THAT ARE BUILT UP ALONG THE SIDE.

JEREMIAH HAS BEEN A LEADING PART OF THAT, TOO, ALONG WITH MANY OTHER PEOPLE IN THE CITY.

>> IT'S WORTHWHILE.

LAST THING THAT I HAVE IS THAT I WANT TO THANK THE CITY AND SCOTT FOR PUSHING THIS BATTING CAGE THROUGH, IT'S GOING TO MAKE A BIG DIFFERENCE AT CENTRAL PARK.

IT REALLY IS GOING TO UPGRADE OUR ABILITY TO HELP KIDS BECOME BETTER BASEBALL PLAYERS.

I'M SO LOOKING FORWARD TO GETTING THIS PROJECT UNDERWAY STARTING AT THE END OF APRIL.

BY THE END OF JUNE, WE SHOULD HAVE BATTING CAGES.

LITTLE T-BALLERS CAN GO IN THERE AND DO THEIR THING.

[LAUGHTER] WITH THAT, IF THERE'S NOTHING ELSE, I AM GOING TO ADJOURN THE MEETING.

[NOISE]

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.