[00:00:02] >> GOOD AFTERNOON. THIS IS THE GOLF COURSE ADVISORY BOARD REGULAR MEETING [1. CALL TO ORDER] FOR FEBRUARY 27TH, AT 5:30 AT THE CITY HALL COMMISSION CHAMBERS. ORDER. MADAM, CAN YOU CALL THE ROLL CALL, PLEASE. >> MEMBER SIKORSKI. >> HERE. >> MEMBER KELLY. >> HERE. >> CHAIR PELICAN. >> HERE. >> MEMBER CAMERA. MEMBER CORBETT. >> HERE. >> ITEM 3, PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE. CAN WE STAND. MR. KING LEAD US, PLEASE. >> I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS. ONE NATION, UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. >> THANK YOU. >> ITEM 4, APPROVAL OF MINUTES, [4. APPROVAL OF MINUTES] 4.1 THE JANUARY 2025 REGULAR MEETING MINUTES. THEY'VE BEEN POSTED ON OUR PACKET. HAS EVERYONE HAD A CHANCE TO REVIEW THEM? >> YES. >> YES. >> COULD SOMEONE MAKE A MOTION FOR APPROVAL? >> MOTION TO APPROVE. >> SECOND. >> ALL IN FAVOR. >> AYE. >> AYE. >> AYE. >> I GUESS THE MINUTES ARE APPROVED. ITEM 5, PUBLIC COMMENT REGARDING ITEMS NOT ON THE AGENDA. THERE'S NO ONE OUT THERE, SO WE'LL MOVE ON FROM ITEM 5. ITEM 6 DISCUSSION ITEM 6.1, [6.1 Toptracer/Range (Discuss Customer Agreement And Range Update)] THE TOPTRACER RANGE. IT SAYS, WE'LL DISCUSS CUSTOMER AGREEMENT AND RANGE UPDATE. WELCOME, MR. BIGGERS. >> WELCOME. JEFFEREY BIGGERS, GOLF DIRECTOR, FERNANDINA BEACH GOLF CLUB. WE'RE GOING TO START OUT WITH THE DRIVING RANGE. PAM, IF YOU COULD GO DOWN. I WANTED TO START FIRST BEFORE WE DID TOP TRANSFER, JUST TO GIVE YOU GUYS AN UPDATE OF WHERE WE ARE ON THE DRIVING RANGE. WE'VE HAD THE NETS TAKEN DOWN, STARTED A WEEK AGO SATURDAY. POLES WERE DELIVERED WITHIN 10 DAYS. THEY HAVE THE POLES AND HAVE TAKEN THE NETS DOWN. IF YOU GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE. THAT'S A PICTURE OF ALL THE NETS OFF. THEN THE LAST SLIDE, WHERE WE'RE STANDING AT. THEY'VE TAKEN A FEW POLES, AS YOU CAN SEE OUT HERE. IF YOU HAVE BEEN TO THE GOLF COURSE AND NOTICED HERE LATELY, THEY'VE TAKEN ALL THE POLES OUT AND HAVE INSTALLED THREE. WHERE WE ARE ON THAT PROCESS IS WE'RE CLEARING AS MUCH AS WE CAN IN BETWEEN THERE BECAUSE WE DON'T WANT ANY MORE GROWTH TO ACCUMULATE AGAIN GOING FORWARD IN THE FUTURE. WE'LL GET THAT AREA ALL LEVELED OUT, AND THEY'LL CONTINUE TO PUT THE POLES IN. ABOUT A WEEK AGO, WE GOT THE PURCHASE ORDER TO GET THE NETS ORDERED, AND THEY'RE GOING TO BE ABOUT 30 TO 45 DAYS OUT. WHAT WE'RE THINKING, SCOTT, MAYBE APRIL? THIS IS WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT. FIRST OF APRIL, HOPEFULLY, THE WHOLE DRIVING RANGE WILL BE COMPLETED, AND MAYBE WE'LL HAVE A CELEBRATION AND HIT BALLS OUT THERE. >> DID THEY MAKE ANY PROMISES REGARDING THE PACE OF PUTTING THE POLES IN? I'VE SEEN THE THREE POLES THERE A WHILE NOW. >> THINK A LOT OF IT HONESTLY HAS TO DO WITH THE WEATHER, AND I TOLD THE PROJECT MANAGER YOU NEED TO CHECK THAT BECAUSE WHEN IT GETS WET DOWN THERE, YOU CAN'T GET IN THERE. WE HAD BACK IN EARLIER IN THE WEEK TRYING TO CLEAR SOME, AND THEN WE HAD THE TWO INCHES OF RAIN, WHICH WE'RE WALKING ONLY THAT DAY AND WE HAD WEST CLOSED ON WEDNESDAY. THEY ARE WATCHING THAT. I THINK THE MOST RECENT I'VE HEARD IS THEY'RE GOING TO TRY TO COME OUT THIS SATURDAY AND TRY TO DO MORE, AND THEN HOPEFULLY HAVE A FULL CREW OUT THE WEEK OF 10TH MARCH. WE SEE IT GETTING DONE WITHIN THOSE TWO TO THREE WEEKS POLES, AND THEN JUST GOING TO BE WAITING ON THE NETS. THIS IS WHERE WE'RE AT. >> WOULD YOU HAPPEN TO KNOW HOW DEEP THE POLES ARE INSERTED IN THE GROUND? >> WELL, IT'S 75 FEET FROM THE GROUND. >> I HATE TO SAY THIS, BUT I THOUGHT IT WAS A 75-FOOT POLE, AND ONCE IT WAS IN THE GROUND, IT WAS 50. IT'S A LONG WAY IN. >> IT'S IN THERE PRETTY GOOD. IF YOU HAPPEN TO DRIVE BY MAYBE NUMBER ONE, THE OLD POLES ARE SITTING IN THE MIDDLE OF THE DRIVING RANGE FOR NOW, AND YOU CAN SEE THE DIFFERENT COLOR OF HOW FAR THEY WERE IN THE GROUND. BUT YEAH, THE ACTUAL HEIGHT OF THE POLE IS 75 FEET. THAT'S DRIVING RANGE UPDATE. PAM, IF YOU COULD GO BACK. I'M SORRY. >> CONTRACT FOR THE NETS WENT OUT? >> YES. THEY HAVE BEEN ORDERED. IT WAS ABOUT A 30 TO 45 DAY TIME FRAME TO GET THOSE IN THE MATERIALS. I'VE BEEN IN CONTACT WITH BURBANK NETTING IF YOU DIDN'T KNOW WHO WERE. >> IS A LOCAL COMPANY? >> YES. THEY'VE SUPPLIED THE DUMPSTER OUT THERE THAT WE'VE GOTTEN ALL THE NETS IN. [00:05:02] I'LL BE PICKING THOSE UP MAYBE MONDAY TO GET THOSE OFF. >> SURE. ABSOLUTELY. >> I THINK ALSO, JUST TO MAKE SURE YOU GUYS ARE COMFORTABLE WITH THIS PROCESS IS JEFFEREY AND I AND OUR TEAM FEEL AS THOUGH THAT, YES, ON MARCH 10TH, I THINK JEFFEREY HAD STATED THEY WERE GOING TO HAVE A FULL TEAM OUT THERE. BUT OUR GOAL OR WHAT WE TRULY FEEL IS GOING TO HAPPEN IS THOSE POLES ARE GOING TO BE IN BEFORE THE NETTING EVEN GETS IN. AS WE ONLY SEE THREE POLES OUT THERE, EVEN IF ALL THE POLES WERE INSTALLED RIGHT NOW, THE NETTING IS NOT GOING TO BE HERE FOR ANOTHER COUPLE OF WEEKS. THE POLES WILL BE IN, WE'LL HAVE THAT AREA CLEANED OF THE DEBRIS, AND THEN WHEN THE NETS COME IN, THEY'LL BE READY TO GO IN IMMEDIATELY. THAT'S OUR PLAN AS WE SEE IT GO. >> WHO INSTALLS THE NET? >> BURBANK? >> BURBANK, THEY DO IT. >> THEY WILL GET THE NETS AND PUT THEM IN. YES. >> THEY HAVE A MAINTENANCE CONTRACT? >> I HAVE TALKED TO THE REP, AND I TOLD HIM I'D LIKE TO EXPLORE THAT GOING FORWARD. OBVIOUSLY, WE STILL HAVE TO DO ON OUR PART, TAKE CARE OF THAT AREA, AND SUPERINTENDENT STAFF KNOW THAT GOING FORWARD, WE'RE GOING TO MAKE SURE WE KEEP THAT KNOCKED DOWN. ABSOLUTELY. >> WOULD YOU KEEP IT CLEARED CHEMICALLY? >> JUST SPRAY IT AND IF WE NEED TO CUT IT. BUT HOPEFULLY, IF WE CONTINUE TO KEEP IT SPRAYED AND WE'VE DUG OUT A LOT OF THE TREES THAT ARE IN THERE. WE'RE TRYING TO GET EVERYTHING ROOT SYSTEMS OUT SO THAT IT DOESN'T HAPPEN AGAIN. >> THAT'S GOOD. >> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? >> WELL, YOU HAVE THE AGREEMENT PART OF IT. >> YES, THAT'S WHERE I WAS GOING TO GO TO. THE TOPTRACER DISCUSSION. AS YOU SEE, OUR TERM EXTENSION RUNS THROUGH FEBRUARY 9TH OF 2026. WE'RE JUST BASICALLY HERE TODAY TO GET YOUR RECOMMENDATIONS OF A DIRECTION TO GO TO THE COMMISSION AS WE GET TO THE END OF THIS CONTRACT, WHAT WE WANT TO DO, AS FAR AS KEEPING TOPTRACER OR NOT. JUST OPEN DISCUSSION HERE. >> I COULD START. I DON'T KNOW OF ANY OF THE WOMEN WHO USE IT ON THE LEAGUE. I'VE NEVER USED IT. MY PERSONAL FEELING IS A LOT OF THE PEOPLE PLAYING GOLF AT FERNANDINA WE'RE ALL RETIRED. WE JUST WANT TO GO OUT AND PLAY GOLF. >> YOU DO USE THE RANGE TO WARM UP? >> WHEN IT'S OPENED, YEAH. I USE IT BEFORE I GO OUT, BUT JUST THE RANGE. TO HIT A FEW BALLS, SEE WHERE MY SWING IS THAT DAY. BUT OTHER THAN THAT, I DON'T THINK I'LL BE BACK. YOU'VE GOT SO MUCH COMPETITION NOW FROM OTHER PLACES AROUND HERE THAT HAVE A NICER SETTING. PEOPLE GO TO GOLF CLUB SOCIAL AND STUFF LIKE THAT. I THINK EMILIA RIVER JUST OPENED UP SOMETHING LIKE THAT. >> THAT BEAUTIFUL RANGE OVER THERE. >> YEAH. THERE'S A LOT. I'M NOT SURE IF A LOT OF PEOPLE ACTUALLY WANTED TOPTRACER WHEN IT FIRST CAME OUT. I WASN'T IN FAVOR OF IT WHEN IT FIRST CAME OUT, BUT I HAD NOTHING TO DO. I WASN'T ON THE GOLF COURSE ADVISORY BOARD THEN. >> ANYBODY ELSE? >> LET ME GO SECOND. >> YES, SIR. >> I HAVEN'T SEEN THE FINANCIALS FOR THE ENTIRE TIME THAT TOPTRACER HAS BEEN IN, SO I CAN'T MAKE A FINANCIAL RECOMMENDATION GOING FORWARD. I SAID ABOUT A YEAR AGO, I MADE A FAIRLY RADICAL PROPOSAL, AND I'M GOING TO REPEAT IT. WITHOUT THE FINANCIAL INFORMATION. I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THE PART OF THE RANGE WHERE WE CAN GO AND HIT BALLS AND THE PUBLIC CAN COME AND HIT BALLS MOVED FORWARD. I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THE CURRENT TOPTRACER CONTRACT TERMINATED WHEN THE CONTRACT IS UP. I WOULD LIKE TO SEE WHETHER OR NOT THE GULF SUPERINTENDENT CAN USE THE BUILDING AS A BARN FOR ALL OF OUR NEW EQUIPMENT. >> YOU WANT TO GO NEXT? >> YEAH. I AGREE. I DON'T THINK IT'S PAID FOR ITSELF AT ALL. LET'S SEE, 90 DAYS AHEAD OF TIME, WHAT ARE WE AT 129 OR 119? WE NEED TO MAKE SURE WE DON'T. PROBABLY 90 DAYS. [OVERLAPPING] >> YEAH, WE'RE PROBABLY GOING TO DO THAT BEFORE 90 DAYS. >> THE PAST FINANCIALS, WHAT WHAT WE GOT BEFORE DIDN'T SHOW VERY MUCH. I MEAN, EVERYBODY SAID LET'S GIVE IT SOME MORE TIME THEN WE FOUND OUT WE [00:10:03] HAD TO GIVE IT MORE TIME BECAUSE THAT WAS A CONTRACT. WE CAN STILL LOOK. LET'S SEE, WE GOT A LITTLE LESS THAN A YEAR FOR THE CONTRACT AND ABOUT A LITTLE LESS THAN NINE MONTHS BEFORE WE HAVE TO GIVE THEM AND I THINK BETWEEN NOW AND THEN YOU COULD MAYBE THE NEXT MEETING, WE GET SOME FINANCIALS. BUT I DON'T THINK WE'RE GOING TO FIND THAT THAT WAS WORTH ANYTHING. MY IDEA ABOUT USING IT AS A BARN, MAY PROBABLY THE BEST USE. AS LONG AS WE GOT ROOM THERE FOR THE DRIVING RANGE, WHICH HOPEFULLY YOU SAID YOU'RE GOING TO GET THAT BACK IN LESS THAN TWO MONTHS. ANY IDEA WOULD BE THAT TERMINATE. I DON'T THINK WE NEED THAT ANYMORE. >> DO YOU REMEMBER WHEN THE RANGE HAD MORE THAN ONE TIER, IT WAS IN FRONT OF THE WHERE THE BUILDING IS NOW AND THEN THERE WAS A STEP DOWN TO ANOTHER RANGE AND THEN A STEP DOWN TO A THIRD RANGE SO THEY COULD ROTATE BETWEEN THE THREE TO HIT BALLS? >> I DON'T REMEMBER. >> IF WE COULD FIND SOMETHING LIKE THE MAT AND THAT WAS A GUY I DON'T KNOW THE PRICES. IF SOMETHING LIKE THE MATS THAT THEY HAVE AT THE RIVER, I WENT OVER AND HIT BALLS THERE LAST WEEK AND THOSE MATS ARE AMAZING. THAT NOT THE FACILITY, BUT OF BALLS WENT OUTSIDE, DROPPED THEM JUST TO SEE WHAT KIND OF MAT IT WAS. PERFECT. >> I DON'T LIKE THOSE MATS. THEY'RE TOO FORGIVING. >> IT LOOKS GOOD WHEN YOU'RE HITTING, THEN YOU GET ON. >> TOP TRACERS DEFEATED THE THREE PREVIOUS GOLF COURSE MANAGERS AND DIRECTORS. YOU'D BE THE FOURTH, EVEN THOUGH YOU HADN'T HAD A LONG CHANCE. UNLESS YOU COME UP WITH SOME GRAND PLAN WHEN YOU REOPEN THE RANGE AND PRODUCE SOME STELLAR RESULTS FROM IT, I WOULD BE IN FAVOR OF FOLDING UP AND JUST IT WAS AN OPTION THAT JUST DID NOT WORK. GOOD OR BAD. I WAS TRIED, BUT UNLESS IF YOU DECIDE YOU'RE WILLING TO COME UP WITH A GREAT PLAN AND TRY TO SHOW SOME BECAUSE IT'S A BIG RISK. SAY YOU SHOW GREAT RESULTS FOR THREE MONTHS, AND THEN IT'S DECISION TIME, STILL WE'D HAVE ALL THAT HISTORY UNLESS THERE'S BEEN SOME SEA CHANGE OF MARKETS OR SOMETHING. WELL, WE'D PROBABLY NOT BE PRUDENT TO CONTINUE. >> WELL, THIS IS WHY WE WANTED TO HAVE THE DISCUSSION BECAUSE WE BELIEVE THE RANGE SHOULD BE A MONEYMAKER AND IT'S JUST IMPORTANT TO US, AND MAYBE OUR DEMOGRAPHICS, OUR MARKET CAN'T HANDLE HAVING A TOPTRACER. THOSE ARE SOME OF THE THINGS WE'VE DISCUSSED. WE DID JUST TAKE A TRIP TO JACKS BEACH, MYSELF, DIRECTOR MICHAELSON, THE CITY MANAGER, DEPUTY CITY MANAGER. THEY HAVE A LARGER POPULATION TO PULL FROM, BUT THEY'RE VERY BUSY, THEIR RANGE IS ON MATS, AND THEY RECENTLY COVERED THOSE AREAS TO HIT, NOT SO MUCH AS WHAT WE HAVE, BUT WE HAVE A GOOD COVERED BUILDING. WE BELIEVE THAT WAS THEIR BIGGEST MONEYMAKER. NOW, SO THAT'S THE DIRECTION WE'RE LEANING. WE WILL HAVE, AND I WAS GOING TO MENTION THIS LATER. WE HAVE A GOLF WORKSHOP ON TUESDAY AT FIVE O'CLOCK PRIOR TO THE SIX O'CLOCK COMMISSION MEETING. WE INVITE ALL OF YOU TO PLEASE SHOW UP, AND I THINK THIS TOPIC WILL COME UP THERE AS WELL. >> NEXT TUESDAY. >> YES. THIS UPCOMING TUESDAY. >> ONE FOLLOW UP POINT WOULD BE TO SEE HOW THE RANGE DOES. YOU COULD EVEN TERMINATE OPERATING TOPTRACER AT ALL WHEN YOU REOPEN THE RANGE. MAKE A RECOMMENDATION WHERE YOU STOP, SO THEN YOU LOSE THE LABOR COST INVOLVED AND YOU'D PROBABLY SHOW MORE OF A PROFIT, EVEN THOUGH YOU'D STILL BE PAYING THE RENTAL FEE. BUT AS FAR AS REPURPOSING THE BUILDING, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE IT RESUME NORMAL OPERATION FOR A WHILE BEFORE YOU TRY TO TO SEE AND LOOK AT THE FEASIBILITY OF WHAT IT WOULD MEAN, MOVING IT UP THAT DISTANCE AND ALL THE OTHER THINGS. BUT THAT'S CERTAINLY A GOOD CONSIDERATION IF THE BUILDING IS UNDER UTILIZED. IT'S WAY BIGGER THAN YOU NEED TO COVER. WELL, IF WE DID THAT, THERE ARE OTHER OPTIONS YOU CAN DO. WE COULD SELL BALLS IN THE SHOP LIKE WE HAVE. THEY HAVE A MACHINE. I HAD THAT WHEN I WAS A JEKELI A MACHINE THAT YOU COULD SELL BALLS THERE, EITHER TOKENS IN THE SHOP, YOU COULD STAY OPEN A LITTLE LATER, POTENTIAL TO MAYBE GET SOME LIGHTS OUT THERE THAT ACTUALLY WORK AND MAYBE STAY OPEN LATER THERE AND THEN YOU DON'T HAVE THE LABOR. WE HAVE OUR CARD ATTENDANTS, THEY WOULD BE THE ONES HANDLING, [00:15:02] CLOSING THAT UP AND OPENING IN THE MORNING. BUT I WANTED TO HEAR YOUR VIEWS, AND I APPRECIATE THAT. WHAT YOU'VE SEEN OVER THE YEARS THAT WE'VE HAD IT. THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU. >> MOVING ON TO ITEM 6.2, [6.2 Player Development Program (Independent Contractor Agreement)] THE PLAYER DEVELOPMENT PROGRAM. >> YES. >> COULD WE MAKE A MOTION AND HAVE A SECOND IN A VOTE THAT THE GOLF COURSE ADVISORY COMMITTEE WOULD LIKE TO MOVE IN THE DIRECTION OF CANCELING THAT AGREEMENT COME FEBRUARY OF 2026 IF YOU FEEL COMFORTABLE DOING THAT? >> DO YOU FEEL LIKE YOU NEED THAT TONIGHT? WE'RE MISSING ONE MEMBER, THAT'D BE MY ONLY RESERVATION ABOUT THAT. [OVERLAPPING] DO WE INCLUDE IN THAT MEETING WE'RE HAVING NEXT WEEK THAT YOU'RE HAVING? >> YOU NEED IT NOW? >> LET'S MOVE FORWARD WITH IT NOW SO IF THAT DISCUSSION COMES UP, WE COULD BE PREPARED TO LET THEM KNOW IN THE WORKSHOP THAT THE DIRECTION OF THE GOLF COURSE ADVISORY COMMITTEE WOULD LIKE TO MOVE FORWARD WITH CANCELING IT. A COUPLE OF THINGS I WANTED TO MENTION THAT JEFFEREY WAS TALKING ABOUT, TOO, IS THE DRIVING RANGE, WE CAN MAKE IT PROFITABLE. I THINK, AND CORRECT ME, PLEASE, WITH THE NUMBERS. BUT JUST TO RUN THE DRIVING RANGE WITH TOPTRACER'S SOFTWARE LICENSING FEES AND STAFFING AND DATA CONNECTIONS AND STUFF LIKE THAT, WE'RE LOOKING AT $60,000-70,000 IN EXPENSES BEFORE WE START MAKING MONEY. I THINK THE WAY THAT IT'S CURRENTLY IS THERE'S FOUR BUDGETS REALLY IN THE GOLF COURSE. THE REVENUE GOES INTO WHAT WE CALL THE DRIVING RANGE IN TOPTRACER, AND THEN ALSO MONEY GOES INTO THE GOLF COURSE SIDE OF IT AS WELL. A ROUGH ESTIMATE MAKING ABOUT $70,000 ABOUT. IF WE TAKE AWAY THOSE EXPENSES AND NOW WE CAN SHOW THAT WE'RE MAKING 150 TO MAYBE EVEN 200, THE ULTIMATE GOAL IS TO BE ABLE TO PUT THAT MONEY BACK INTO THE GOLF COURSE. THEN THAT GOES BACK TO MAINTENANCE, TOO, IS HAVING A DRIVING RANGE WHERE YOU HAVE GRASS IS A LOT OF MAINTENANCE, AND JEFFEREY CAN TELL YOU A LOT MORE ABOUT THAT THAN I CAN. THE ULTIMATE GOAL IS TO HAVE A FACILITY, AND WE COULD USE THE SHED THAT IS CURRENTLY THERE, A COVERED DRIVING RANGE, JUST LIKE WE HAD VISITED IN JACKSONVILLE, THAT COULD BE A LITTLE BIT OF A DRAW TO GET OUT OF THE SUN TO HIT AND HAVE NICE MATS. THAT'S WHERE WE SEE IT LEAST MAINTENANCE ON OUR SIDE, MOST PROFITABLE TO BE ABLE TO PUSH THAT MONEY INTO THE GOLF COURSE. THAT'S HOW STAFF FEELS. JUST WANTED TO LET YOU GUYS KNOW. >> FOUR THOUSAND DOLLARS A WEEK OF REVENUE FROM THAT DRIVING RANGE. I DON'T SEE IT. >> WE CAN PROVIDE YOU NUMBERS. DO YOU KNOW, TOP OF YOUR HEAD? >> I CAN GIVE OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD. WE DID ABOUT $140,000 LAST YEAR ON THE DRIVING RANGE. PROBABLY WOULD HIT 150 IF THE RANGE OF SEPTEMBER DIDN'T HIT PRIOR TO THE HURRICANE. BUT LIKE MR. MICHAELSON SAID, THAT THE EXPENSES, THAT'S WHERE IT WAS. WE'RE TALKING PROFITABILITY VERSUS REVENUES, SO WE WOULD HAVE DONE 150 IN GROSS REVENUES. WE JUST WOULDN'T HAVE HAD THE EXPENSES IF WE CUT THESE AREAS WHERE WE DON'T HAVE SOMEONE IN THERE WORKING WHERE WE SELL THE BALLS OR EVENTUALLY GET A MACHINE OR ANY OF THOSE OTHER EXPENSES, WHICH IS WHAT WE PAY FOR TOPTRACER AND COMMUNICATIONS AND INTERNET FEES. >> ONE POINT ABOUT THIS. CUTTING THE VEGETATION BACK ACTUALLY MAKES IT MORE ATTRACTIVE. IT'S NOT A PRIME SITE, BUT IT'S MORE ATTRACTIVE SITE WITH MORE OF THAT VEGETATION BEING PUSHED BACK AWAY FROM THE RANGE. >> WE ARE ADDING TWO POLES TO THE RIGHT SIDE, SO MAYBE WE CAN HAVE THREE OR FOUR MATS ON THAT SIDE, THREE OR FOUR MATS ON THE OTHER, PEOPLE WHO WANT TO HIT OUTSIDE, AND THEN STILL HAVE THAT COVERED. IT'S GOING TO BE GREAT, THE COVERED AREA, SO YOU COULD STILL HIT. BECAUSE IN THE SUMMERTIME IT CAN GET HOT, AND THAT WILL KEEP PEOPLE DOWN THERE HITTING. THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT JAX BEACH DID. >> ARE YOU RECOMMENDING WE MAKE A MOTION TO TERMINATE THE TOPTRACER CONTRACT? >> YES. >> YES. WELL, WE WOULD LIKE FOR YOU GUYS TO MAKE A RECOMMENDATION TO US. IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO TERMINATE THE CONTRACT WHEN THE CONTRACT IS UP. [00:20:01] THEN OBVIOUSLY, WE WILL WORK WITH THE CITY COMMISSION TO LET THEM KNOW THAT THE GOLF COURSE ADVISORY COMMITTEE HAS RECOMMENDED THE TERMINATION OF THAT CONTRACT. WE WILL MAKE SURE THAT AS WE GO THROUGH THIS, IF THAT IS THE WISH, WE WILL MAKE SURE THAT THEY HAVE THAT MUCH SOONER THAN 90 DAYS BEFORE WHEN IT'S CALLED FOR. >> SO MOVED. WELL, YOU GOT TO SAY IT, AREN'T YOU? >> GOLF COURSE ADVISORY COMMITTEE RECOMMENDS THE TERMINATION OF THE TOPTRACER CONTRACT ON OR BEFORE THE DATE OF 2/9/26. >> MAKE THAT A MOTION >> AT THE DISCRETION OF THE MANAGEMENT FOR THE EXACT TIME TO CEASE OPERATION OF THE TOPTRACER. MY POINT ON THAT IS, THIS DISCUSSION HERE, THAT THEY MAY DECIDE, WE'RE JUST GOING TO STOP OFFERING THE TOPTRACER EVEN THOUGH THE TIME IS LEFT, AND THEN WE'LL BE SAVING ON THE LABOR COST. IT MIGHT BE MORE PROFITABLE THAN PROVIDING THE TOPTRACER. >> THEY NEED TO KNOW THAT BEFORE THE NEXT BUDGET COMES OUT. THAT'S EVEN EARLIER THAN [OVERLAPPING] WHEN YOU WOULD HAVE TO TERMINATE IT. >> POSSIBLY. WE'RE STARTING THE BUDGET PROCESS NOW. >> YEAH, THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING. YEAH, YOU WOULD BE TERMINATING IT EVEN BEFORE THE 90 DAYS. >> THAT'S A DAY TO DAY DECISION. >> [OVERLAPPING] I THINK WHAT CHAIR PELICAN IS STATING IS THAT WE TECHNICALLY WOULDN'T TERMINATE IT PRIOR TO ITS TERMINATION DATE. WHAT HE IS SAYING IS WHERE WE WOULD SAVE MONEY IS STAFFING AT THE DRIVING RANGE. AM I CORRECT IN SAYING THAT? >> BEGIN THE TRANSITION OUT OF IT BEFORE [OVERLAPPING] WE START THE TERMINATION DATE. YOU COULD TAKE DOWN THE SIGNAGE, YOU COULD BEGIN THE PROCESS OF DISMANTLING THE TOPTRACER AT YOUR DISCRETION AT THE MOST OPPORTUNE TIME. >> WELL, YOU'D BE TAKING EVERYTHING DOWN ABOUT TOPTRACER, EXCEPT WE STILL HAVE TO PAY THE FEES. EVERYTHING ELSE WOULD BE COMING DOWN, CORRECT? >> WELL, WE WOULD STILL HAVE THE BUILDING. WE WOULD STILL HAVE THE MASS. IT'S JUST THE TECHNOLOGY OF TOPTRACER THAT WOULD BE TAKEN OUT. >> THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING. >> THAT'S ALL IT IS. >> THAT WOULD BE OUT [OVERLAPPING] EVEN THOUGH WE'RE STILL PAYING. MAYBE YOU CAN KEEP ONE BAY. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WANT TO DO THAT OR JUST CUT IT ALL. I DON'T KNOW HOW THAT WOULD WORK. >> YEAH. ULTIMATELY, I THINK, ONCE AGAIN, IS WHAT CHAIR PELICAN IS STATING IS THAT WE MAYBE JUST WOULDN'T TURN EVEN TOPTRACER ON. IN TURN, IT'S ACTING AS A DRIVING RANGE AND WHERE THE CITY OR WHERE THE GOLF COURSE IS SAVING MONEY IN THIS SITUATION, THE ONLY PLACE THAT WE'RE SAVING MONEY AT THIS TIME IS STAFFING. WE'RE NOT HAVING A STAFF PERSON DOWN THERE. YES, WE STILL HAVE THE LICENSING SOFTWARE COST UNTIL IT'S TERMINATED AND THEN WE ALSO HAVE THE DATA CONNECTION COST OR WE COULD LOOK AT THAT. >> [OVERLAPPING] IT'S LOWER, TOO, BUT WE DON'T USE IT. >> YES. THAT COULD BE A SAVINGS, AND THEN ALSO WHERE THE MAIN SAVINGS IS IS STAFF. I THINK WHAT CHAIR PELICAN IS SAYING, ALONG WITH THE MOTION THAT MR. KELLY HAS MADE, IS YOU SAY WITH STAFF LOOKING INTO WHEN THAT CHANGEOVER STARTS. IT COULD START RIGHT WHEN WE OPEN UP THE FACILITY, IS I BELIEVE WHAT YOU'RE SAYING. >> ANOTHER GOOD TIME WOULD BE THE NEW FISCAL YEAR. >> [OVERLAPPING] THAT'S WHAT I WAS THINKING. >> ANYWAY, [OVERLAPPING] COULD YOU SAY THAT ONE MORE TIME AND THEN WE'LL GET A SECOND ON IT? >> [LAUGHTER] I'LL WRITE IT DOWN. >> NO. JUST MAKE THE MOTION. I MAKE A MOTION WE TERMINATE THE TOPTRACER GOLF CONTRACT. >> SECOND. >> ALL IN FAVOR? >> AYE. >> IT'S A UNANIMOUS DECISION AT THIS POINT TO RECOMMEND THE [OVERLAPPING] CLOSURE OF THE TOPTRACER. >> THAT GIVES THEM SOME AMMUNITION FOR THE MEETING NEXT TUESDAY NIGHT BEFORE THE REGULAR MEETING. >> YES. >> THEN GO IN AND, WE JUST DIDN'T DECIDE ON OUR OWN TO CLOSE IT. >> THAT'S CORRECT. >> GOLF BOARD RECOMMENDED IT, AND WE AGREED WITH THAT AND WE'RE BRINGING IT TO Y'ALL. >> EXACTLY. THAT'S WHY WE WANT TO DISCUSS THAT TONIGHT. THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU. COULD I JUST ADD ONE MORE BULLET TO YOUR ARSENAL? I SPOKE WITH THE PRESIDENT OF THE MGA ABOUT TOPTRACER, [00:25:02] AND HE SUPPORTS FULLY THE RECOMMENDATION THAT WAS JUST MADE. >> GOOD TO KNOW. THANK YOU. >> NEITHER ONE OF THE LEAGUES REALLY WANTED IT. >> ARE YOU GOING TO TALK ABOUT 6.2 NOW, PLAYER DEVELOPMENT PROGRAM? >> YES. PLAYER DEVELOPMENT. WE HAVE RECENTLY HIRED SCOTT WOMBLE TO TEACH. HE'S PGA. GOT THAT DONE LAST WEEK. JUST TO LET YOU KNOW HIS PAST. SINCE JANUARY OF '17, HE WAS LEAD INSTRUCTOR AT CLEMSON UNIVERSITY FOR THEIR LEISURE SKILLS GOLF CLASS. HE'S TAUGHT OVER 250 STUDENTS PER WEEK FOR THE LAST EIGHT YEARS. I THINK HE USED TO WORK HERE. HE'S FROM HERE. >> HE USED TO BE AT THE COURSE. >> HE'LL BE GIVEN INDIVIDUAL INSTRUCTION, GROUP INSTRUCTION, WORKING WITH JUNIORS. THE BENEFITS OF THIS, I SEE IS HAVING SOMEONE OUT THERE TO MARKET THOSE PLAYERS TO COME IN, GET YOUNGER PEOPLE OUT TO PLAY GOLF. IT'S JUST GOING TO BE TWOFOLD. IT'S GOING TO INCREASE REVENUES AS YOU HAVE PEOPLE COME OUT USING THE FACILITIES. HOPEFULLY, THEY'LL START PLAYING MORE GOLF. OBVIOUSLY, WITH THE DRIVING RANGE CONDITIONS RIGHT NOW, MOST OF HIS LESSONS WILL BE KIND OF SHORT GAME, AND I TOLD HIM TO WORK WITH STAFF WHERE HE COULD GET OUT ON THE GOLF COURSE AND GIVE PLAYING LESSONS. THE FEE STRUCTURE IS GOING TO BE JUST LIKE WE'VE DONE IN THE PAST WITH INSTRUCTORS. IT'S 80-20 SPLIT, SO WE'LL GET SOME FOR THE GOLF COURSE COMING TO US. HE'LL BE REQUIRED TO GIVE US LISTS AND BRING IN ALL OF HIS TEACHING EVERY TIME HE TEACHES EVERY DAY, AND AT THE END OF THE MONTH, HE'LL PUT ALL THOSE NUMBERS TO US, AND THEN ACCOUNTS PAYABLE, WE'LL PAY HIM THE CHECK, AND WE'LL GET THAT 20%. A NICE REVENUE SPLIT. I'M EXCITED ABOUT IT BECAUSE I THINK IT'S GOING TO, LIKE I SAID, IT'S GOING TO INCREASE EXPOSURE FOR THE GOLF COURSE. JUST TO LET YOU KNOW, SOME OF HIS IDEAS OF DOING MAYBE MORNINGS OPEN LESSON SCHEDULING, AFTERNOONS, PRETTY MUCH MONDAY THROUGH SATURDAY. WE'VE DISCUSSED, YOU KNOW, SOME EVENINGS WHERE HE COULD START PUTTING TOGETHER SOME CLINICS, WHETHER THEY'RE SHORT GAME OR ONCE WE GET THE DRIVING RANGE OPEN. HE'S GOT A TON OF IDEAS. HE'S BEEN DOING THIS A REALLY LONG TIME. I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO HIM STARTING. WE'LL HAVE SOME FACEBOOK PRESENTS WITH HIM TOO, AND HE'S GOT SOME CARDS IN THE GOLF SHOP, AND I'VE ALREADY GIVEN HIM A NUMBER OF LEADS THAT HAVE INQUIRED ABOUT LESSONS. >> WHERE WILL HE BE OPERATING, [OVERLAPPING] THE OFFICE SPACE OR OVER AT THE TOP? >> HE'LL BE AT THE RANGE, THE CHIPPING [INAUDIBLE]. HE'LL PRETTY MUCH BE ALL OVER THE PLACE. I TOLD HIM IF HE HAD CLINICS OF CERTAIN SIZE, I'D BE WILLING TO HELP HIM OUT THERE. I THINK MARY POOLE HELPED THE PREVIOUS GOLF DIRECTOR. IF HE HAS LARGE NUMBERS, WE'RE WILLING TO HELP. I KNOW HE'S ASKED ME A COUPLE OF THINGS ABOUT THE HIGH SCHOOL TEAM, AND, I SAID, YEAH, THEY PRACTICE DURING THE SPRING. THOSE ARE POSSIBLE STUDENTS AND JUST TRYING TO GET THAT PRESENCE OUT THERE. WE START TEACHING PEOPLE TO PLAY GOLF AT THE GOLF COURSE. HAD A LOT OF INQUIRIES MY FIRST COUPLE OF MONTHS HERE BECAUSE IT WAS RIGHT WHEN I STARTED IN THE SUMMER AND SUMMER GOLF CAMPS ARE HUGE. LOOKING FORWARD TO THAT. ANY QUESTIONS ON THE PLAYER DEVELOPMENT? >> NO. THE 6.3, [6.3 FSGA February Rating (Review)] THE FSGA FEBRUARY RATING. >> WITH THE FLORIDA STATE GOLF ASSOCIATION, THEY WERE IN ON THE 11TH AND THE 13TH, AND THEY TOOK YARDAGES OF THE GOLF COURSE ON THE 11TH, AND THEY RATED THE GOLF COURSE ON THE 13TH. THEY HAD A TEAM OF 4-6. I DON'T KNOW ALL THE INTRICACIES OF HOW THESE NUMBERS COME ABOUT. I KNOW THEY COLLABORATE AND COME TOGETHER WITH THEIR VIEWS OF IT. SLOPE RATING IS WHERE YOU'RE LOOKING AT ALL THE TROUBLE, FORCE CARRIES, OUT OF BOUNDS, HAZARDS, AND THE COURSE RATING IS BASED WHAT MAYBE A SCRATCH GOLFER WOULD SHOOT FROM THOSE TEES. THEY COMBINE ALL THAT TOGETHER. I HAVE SEEN PRELIMINARY, SOME OF THEIR NUMBERS, NOT THAT WE WERE GOING TO BE ABLE TO CHANGE ANYTHING, BUT IF YOU LOOK ON THE YARDAGES THERE, COMPARING THAT TO WHAT WE HAD IN JAN PRIOR, EXTREMELY CLOSE, JUST TO LET YOU GUYS KNOW. ONE MAJOR EXCEPTION MIGHT BE THE BLUE TEES LIKE NUMBER 1 WEST BECAUSE THAT BACK TEE BOX JUST DOESN'T HAVE ANY GRASS ON IT AND NEAR THE CLUBHOUSE, SO WE'RE NOT USING THAT. THIS WAS FROM ME JUST LOOKING INTO WHAT THOSE NUMBERS WERE IN 2013, THE LAST TIME WE HAD THE COURSE RATED, AND EVERYTHING WAS VERY CLOSE. [00:30:04] I THINK ANYWHERE FROM 30 YARDS TO FOUR YARDS TO 32 YARDS DIFFERENCE, EITHER A LITTLE LONGER OR A LITTLE SHORTER WAS WHAT THEY CAME UP WITH. I JUST PUT UP HERE FOR YOU GUYS TO LOOK AT THE WEST TO THE SOUTH COURSE. OF COURSE, THEY HAD TO RATE ALL THREE COMBINATIONS. IF WE GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE, AND ROTATE. >> AS YOU TALK ABOUT IT, WHAT DIFFERENCE DOES IT MAKE TO A PLAYER GOING OUT AND PLAYING? >> WELL, AND THAT'S WHAT I WANTED JUST TO DISCUSS. AS YOU SEE HERE, THIS IS FOR THE MEN ON THOSE TWO COURSES. THOSE ARE THE COURSE AND SLOPE RATINGS FROM THOSE TEES. >> JUST TO GIVE YOU AN EXAMPLE, THE BLUE TEES WERE 72.9, 135. NOW THEY'RE 73.2 AND 129. THEY BASICALLY HAVEN'T CHANGED VERY MUCH. IF YOU GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE, AND I THINK I HAD THE LADIES ON THERE. 71.4 FOR THE RED TEES FOR THE WOMEN 120. IT WAS 70.5, 124. THE MAJORITY OF THESE RATINGS, OR THE SLOPES HAVE GONE DOWN AND DUNCAN WHO RAN THIS TOLD ME THAT THAT'S WHAT THEY'VE SEEN. THEY'VE CHANGED SOME OF THEIR DYNAMICS OF HOW THEY RATE COURSES IN THE LAST YEAR AND A HALF, AND WHAT THEY'VE SEEN PREDOMINANTLY IS 95% OF THE GOLF COURSES, THEIR SLOPES ARE COMING DOWN. I DON'T REALLY KNOW WHY, BUT THAT'S WHAT HE SAID, AND OURS DID ACROSS THE BOARD. WHEN I LOOKED THROUGH ALL OF THESE NUMBERS, WHEN YOU HAVE THE COURSE HANDICAPPED TABLE, I THINK THAT'S THE NEXT ONE. THAT'S WHERE YOU PLUG IN IF YOU DIDN'T KNOW YOUR INDEX TO FIGURE OUT WHAT YOUR HANDICAP WOULD BE FROM THE BLUE TEES. IF I WAS A 3.8 INDEX, I'D PLUG IT IN HERE AND IF I PLAY THE BLUE TEES, I'D GET FIVE SHOTS. THOSE NUMBERS, LOOKING AT OUR OLD INDEX CHARTS ARE WITHIN A 0.10, 0.2. VERY LITTLE DIFFERENCE IS WHAT I'M SEEING. I WANTED TO MAKE YOU GUYS AWARE. I'M GLAD WE DID THIS. I THINK IT'S A COUPLE OF YEARS. WE'VE BEEN TRYING TO DO THIS, AND WE WOULDN'T HAVE TO HAVE THEM BACK OUT FOR ANOTHER 10 YEARS OR SO. >> WHEN DO YOU GO INTO THE SYSTEM? >> THAT'S WHAT I WAS ABOUT TO SAY. HE GAVE THAT TO ME FOR A REVIEW. ONE THING I SAW ON THERE IS THEY HAD THE LADIES PAR WRONG ON NUMBER 1 NORTH. HE SAID, THAT'S NOT GOING TO AFFECT ANY OF THE COURSE RATINGS, I'LL CHANGE IT TO GET THE PART RIGHT. THOSE SHOULD GO INTO EFFECT, I THINK HE SAID MARCH 4. YOU GUYS WON'T KNOW ANYTHING DIFFERENT. YOU'LL JUST KEEP POSTING SCORES. WHAT WILL BE INTERESTING IS TO SEE WHERE EVERYBODY'S HANDICAPS GO AS THESE SLOPES HAVE GONE DOWN. IT MAY ADJUST A LITTLE, BUT THE NUMBERS ARE PRETTY CLOSE TO THE SAME. DO YOU GUYS HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ON WHERE WE ARE WITH THE COURSE RATING, SLOPE RATING HANDICAP SYSTEM? >> GOOD, WE GOT THAT. WE HAD TO GET IT DOWN. [OVERLAPPING]. >> AFTER IF WE DIDN'T HAVE IT SINCE 2013. >> THAT'S 12 YEARS. >> ABOUT EVERY 10 YEARS. >> I CAN'T HELP BUT HELP IN MY FORMABLE OPINION. >> BUT TO BE CLEAR, WE'LL MOSTLY BE TEEING OFF FROM WHERE WE'VE BEEN TEEING OFF. >> WE DID NOT CHANGE THE GOLF COURSE. WHAT WE DID WAS WE MADE SURE PRIOR, I THINK AT THE PREVIOUS MEETING, SCOTT MAY HAVE MENTIONED SOME OF THAT, BUT WE MADE SURE THAT ALL THE BLOCKS WERE OUT OF THE CORRECT TEE BOXES, AND WHEN THEY RATED, WE PUT THOSE TEE BOXES AT THOSE BLOCKS. BUT UNDERSTAND, THAT DOESN'T MEAN THAT'S THE EXACT YARDAGE BECAUSE IF YOU HAD THREE TEE BOXES OF GOLD OR WHITE AND A BLUE, THEY CUT THE TEE BOXES UP BY HALF OR THIRDS, AND THAT'S WHERE THEY GET AN AVERAGE YARDAGE, WHICH, LIKE I SAID, WERE EXTREMELY CLOSE TO WHAT WE HAD IN THE PAST WITH THE EXCEPTION OF A COUPLE OF TEE BOX. ONE TEE BOX I WAS THINKING ABOUT WAS SOUTH NUMBER 9. IT LOOKS LIKE WAY BACK THERE WAS A TEE BOX. LOOKING AT THE NUMBERS THAT THEY HAVE FOR YARDAGES, THAT TEE BOX WASN'T RATED IN 2013, BECAUSE IT'S GOT CLOSE TO THE SAME BLUE TEE WHERE WE HAVE THE BLUE TEE NOW. BUT I DO BELIEVE THAT THE TEE BOX BY THE CLUB HOUSE ON ONE WEST WAS RATED BECAUSE THERE IS A LITTLE BIT OF YARDAGE DIFFERENCE THERE. >> ONE ACROSS THE PATH? >> YES, SIR. >> ONE ACROSS THE PATH STEPS. [OVERLAPPING]. >> YEAH THE STEPS. TO ME, IT IS A GREAT TEE BOX, BUT IT'S ALSO A HAZARD BECAUSE PEOPLE COMING AROUND FROM THE COURSE AND COMING THROUGH TO MAKE THEIR TURNS, THEY COULD EASILY HIT THAT. WHY IT'S NOT OPEN. >> I LIKE THE TEE BOX ON NINE WEST, [00:35:01] ALSO, ONE ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE POND. >> WE DIDN'T LOOK AT THAT ONE, BUT I KNOW THAT ONE WERE THAT'S THERE BECAUSE OF MY SUPERINTENDENT WAS ASKING ME, ARE WE GOING TO CLEAR THAT OFF AND I SAID, NO. LET'S JUST DON'T DO THAT. I THINK THERE'S SOME TREE ISSUES TO YOU HAVE TO WALK AROUND TREES AND WHATNOT. BUT THAT'S A BEAUTIFUL OVER THAT WATER, IT'S PRETTY. >> IT'S CLASSY. THE PUMP HOST GETS IN THE WAY. >> YEAH, IT COULD. >> ANY [OVERLAPPING] OTHER QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT? >> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ABOUT THE [INAUDIBLE] >> THANK YOU, SIR. HI, ITEM 7, FRIENDS OF FERNANDINA BEACH GOLF CLUB UPDATE. [7. FRIENDS OF FERNANDINA BEACH GOLF CLUB UPDATE] DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANYTHING ABOUT THAT? THEY HAVE THE PARTY COMING UP. >> I WAS GOING TO MENTION THAT. [OVERLAPPING] >> I COVER THERE. >> I KNOW IF YOU SPOKE LAST TIME WITH [OVERLAPPING] >> THEY'RE HAVING THEIR APPRECIATION ON THE SIXTH. I DIDN'T GO TO THE LAST PLANNING MEETING, 05:00-7:00, THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE SILENT AUCTION. THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE ONE FREE DRINK TICKET FOR PEOPLE WHEN THEY COME IN. PEOPLE WANT TO MAKE DONATIONS, $35 DONATION. THEY'LL HAVE A BIRD BOX AND BLUEBIRD BOX MADE IN YOUR NAME. THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE MUSIC BY HUP AND RAY. I THINK THAT'S THEIR NAME [INAUDIBLE] IT'S HOW IT WAS LAST TIME. THEY'LL DO A TRIVIA CONTEST, AND I THINK THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE MUSIC STARTING EARLY. >> 5:00-7:00, YES, ON THURSDAY THE SIXTH. NEXT THURSDAY? >> NEXT THURSDAY. >> THURSDAY WEEK. >> I GET TO HAND OUT THE [INAUDIBLE] THURSDAY. >> A WEEK FROM TODAY. >> WE CAN CORRECT. >> WHAT YOU I JUST I'M HARD HERE. >> IT'S 5:00 -7:00. >> FIVE TO 7 NEXT [OVERLAPPING] THURSDAY. >> THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE MUSIC. THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE SPEAKERS. THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE WHAT THEY HAD LAST TIME [INAUDIBLE] >> IF YOU KNOW GARY BRAIN, IS THAT RIGHT? >> YES. >> BRIAN, HE'S IN CHARGE OF IT AND CONTACT HIM. I GOT A NUMBER [INAUDIBLE] TO HIM. >> HE HAD AN IDEA. BUT I KNOW I'M HANDING OUT THE DRINK TICKETS WHEN YOU COME IN THE DOOR. >> DO YOU HAVE ONE? [LAUGHTER] >> ITEM 8, THE MGA UPDATE. [8. MGA UPDATE] WE COMPLETED OUR ABCD TOURNAMENT SINCE THE LAST TIME WE MET. THE THREE TEAMS THAT FINISHED FIRST HAD THE SAME NET SCORE OF 57. WE HAVE AN UPCOMING TOURNAMENT ON FRIDAY, MARCH 7, TWO MAN BASEBALL. OBVIOUSLY, IT'S HANDICAPPED. WE'RE VERY PLEASED WITH THE PROGRESS THAT IS MADE AT THE RANGE. EVERYBODY'S DRIVING OVER THERE AND LOOKING AT IT AND SAYING, WELL, THIS IS GOING TO BE GREAT. CONGRATULATIONS WELL DONE. WE'RE STILL LOOKING FOR NEW MEMBERS, BUT THINGS ARE GOING VERY STRONG FOR US. >> THE ORIGINAL DATE FOR THE MARCH TOURNAMENT WAS THE 14TH, WASN'T IT? >> YES. THAT HAS BEEN CHANGED BACK TO MARCH 7THH. IT'S FRIDAY TWO MAN BEST BALL. HANDICAPPED. >> VERY GOOD. ITEM 9, WGA UPDATE. [9. WGA UPDATE] >> WELL, THE LADIES ARE LOOKING FORWARD TO HAVING THE DRIVING RANGE OPEN AGAIN BECAUSE A LOT OF THEM TO GO OUT BEFORE GOLF AND HIT. WE'VE GOTTEN SOME NEW MEMBERS WITH AMELIA NATIONAL CLOSING FOR AN EXTENDED PERIOD OF TIME TO RENOVATE THEIR COURSE. I THINK WE'VE JUST GOTTEN ANOTHER TWO, POSSIBLY THREE NEW MEMBERS. OUR MEMBERSHIP IS I BELIEVE IT'S UP TO 58 NOW. I'M NOT QUITE SURE. I DON'T KNOW THEY MAY EVEN, I THINK ONE OR TWO MAY EVEN HAVE BOUGHT NEW MEMBERSHIPS. I THINK THIS IS GOOD. OUR LADIES LEAGUE ALSO WILL HAVE THEIR MEMBER MEMBER TOURNAMENT COMING UP IN MARCH, AND WE'LL BEGIN OUR HANDICAP, AND CLUB CHAMPIONSHIP THE END OF APRIL, BEGINNING OF MAY. THEN WE HAVE OUR QUEEN OF TEAM SHOOTOUT BEGINNING OF MAY. THAT'S ALL THAT'S HAPPENING HERE. OUR SEASON SHOULD CONCLUDE RIGHT BEFORE MEMORIAL DAY. >> VERY GOOD. THANK YOU. I'M MOVING ON TO ITEM 10, [10. STAFF COMMENTS] STAFF COMMENTS, 10.1 STAFF UPDATE. BEFORE YOU BEGIN, CAN I ASK A QUESTION BEFORE I FORGET IT? IS THERE GOING TO BE PART OF THE COURSE CLOSED IN THE NEXT WEEK OR TWO FOR CAR AUCTION OR IS THAT NOT HAPPENING THIS YEAR? >> BOTTOMS IS NOT HAPPENING IN THIS YEAR. THEY DID NOT RENEW THE CONTRACT. DID THEY GO TO MIAMI OR SOMETHING WITH MIAMI? YES, THEY ARE NOT, BUT THERE IS POTENTIAL THEY MAY COME BACK NEXT YEAR. >> THEY WOULD HAVE HAD THE TENTS UP ALREADY BY NOW. >> YES. >> THAT'S RIGHT. >> THANK YOU ABOUT THAT. >> I JUST WANT TO TAKE A QUICK COUPLE OF MINUTES, AND I ALWAYS THINK IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT TO REMIND PEOPLE OF THIS. [00:40:02] A LOT OF THE TIMES AS STAFF WE DEAL WITH STUFF EVERY DAY. I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT FOR THE GOLF STAFF TO HEAR NOT ONLY FROM ME, BUT LETTING THEM KNOW OF THE GOOD JOB THAT THEY'RE DOING. I REALLY, TRULY BELIEVE THIS. I THINK JEFFEREY HAS COME IN AND DONE A REALLY GOOD JOB. PAM, WITH ACCOUNTS PAYABLE, THE MAINTENANCE TEAM. THE GOLF COURSE IS TURNING, AND I THINK JEFFEREY IS GOING TO SAY A FEW THINGS ABOUT THAT IN HIS UPDATE. BUT I THINK IT'S GOOD TO HEAR IT FROM PEOPLE. I THINK JEFFEREY IS DOING AN AMAZING JOB, AND I THINK WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE TO WORK HARD AND WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE TO IMPROVE THE GOLF COURSE. IN TURN, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE MORE GOLFERS. SOME OF THE STUFF THAT HE'S GOING TO ACTUALLY MENTIONED TODAY, IS GOING TO SHOW YOU THAT TOO AND TELL YOU THAT. I JUST APPRECIATE ALL THE HARD WORK THAT THEY HAVE DONE. THANK YOU, SIR. >> I'M THERE. WE DO HEAR YOU GUYS' COMPLIMENTS. WE HEAR IT IN THE SHOP, STAFF DOES. I HAVE PEOPLE, MY MAINTENANCE STAFF COMES IN. YOU GUYS AND THE PUBLIC, THEY'RE SEEING US TURN THE CORNER. WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE TO DO WHAT WE'RE DOING AND I'M READY FOR THE GRASS TO START GROWING AGAIN BECAUSE IT'S GOING TO BE DIFFERENT. I'M GOING TO GO THROUGH THE NUMBERS NOW. UNDERSTAND THAT THESE ARE JANUARY NUMBERS. JANUARY NUMBERS. WE DID $19,000 TOTAL REVENUE LESS THAN WE DID IN JANUARY 2024. BUT THAT'S ALSO WITH NO RANGE REVENUE. THESE ARE JUST PURE REVENUE. WE HAD A WEEK THERE OF FRIGID TEMPERATURES WHERE WE ONLY PLAYED ABOUT 17 PLAYERS A DAY AVERAGE. WE HAD TOTAL ROUNDS OF 2,489, AND WE AVERAGED ABOUT 80 ROUNDS PER DAY. I DO LIKE PUTTING THESE NUMBERS HERE SO YOU GUYS CAN GET A FEEL, TOTAL COURSE REVENUE, $72,168. OF THAT CART FEES WERE 25,387, AND GREEN FEES WERE 39,743. WE DID A LITTLE OVER $7,000 IN THE PRO SHOP, AND AGAIN, NO DRIVING RANGE. ONE NOTE IS JUST TO KNOW WHAT WE'VE BEEN DOING IN THE DRIVING RANGE, WE'VE BEEN AVERAGING ABOUT $10,000 IN GROSS REVENUES FOR THE RANGE, THE LAST TWO JANUARY, 23 AND 24. THE BIG ONE I LIKE IS THE GREENS FEE CART FEE PER ROUND. WE AVERAGED $26 AND 70 CENTS. MORE OF THAT PLAY WAS LATER. IT WAS JANUARY AND EVEN THE DAYS WE WERE OPEN BARRING THAT WEEK, IT'S A LITTLE COOLER IN THE MORNINGS. A LOT OF PEOPLE COME OUT LATE AFTERNOON, SO WE WERE GETTING THOSE ON THE GOLF COURSE. I DID PUT A LITTLE RANGE UPDATE. THE NETS ACTUALLY, THERE YOU GO CAME DOWN ON FEBRUARY 15TH, POLE REMOVAL BEGAN AT 2:18. GOLF COURSE MAINTENANCE. AGAIN, THE FLORIDA STATE GOLF ASSOCIATION DID THEIR RATING AND MARCH 3, THAT WILL BE GOING INTO EFFECT. SOME OF THE THINGS THE MAINTENANCE HAS DONE OUT THERE IS THEY'VE CLEARED THE CANOPY OF THE GOLF COURSE. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU GUYS HAVE NOTICED BETWEEN NORTH 2, 3, AND 4, SOUTH, 02, 3, AND 7. WHAT I MEAN BY THAT IS JUST CLEARING AROUND THE TREES, GETTING ALL THE DEBRIS, PULLING IT UP SO YOU CAN SEE THROUGH. NOW YOU CAN SEE SOME OF THOSE DEBRIS PILES A LOT BETTER, WHICH WE'RE DIGGING INTO THAT. EACH YEAR, WE'RE GOING TO GET EQUIPMENT TO GO IN THERE AND HOPEFULLY TAKE THAT ALL THE WAY TO THE GROUND, MAYBE MAKE IT MULCH, SOMETHING MAYBE WE CAN REUSE AGAIN OR HAUL IT OFF SITE. WE'VE DONE SOME STUMP GRINDING. WE HAD COORDINATIONS WITH STREETS. THEY'VE BEEN GREAT WORKING WITH US, TRYING TO GET OUT AND DO THAT. YOU'VE PROBABLY NOTICED A NUMBER OF STUMPS OUT THERE. THEY'RE A LITTLE HIGH, AS WE'RE DOING THAT, SO CARTS WON'T RUN OVER THEM OR ANYBODY WILL WALK OVER THEM AND WHEN WE GET READY TO ACTUALLY USE THE GRINDER, WE'RE BORROWING FROM STREETS, WE'LL CUT THEM DOWN PRIORS. WE'RE NOT GOING THROUGH THEM WITH THEM UP LIKE THAT, BUT THAT GIVES US AN IDEA. THERE ARE A LOT OUT THERE. HOPEFULLY, THEY'LL BE BACK. I THINK THEY DID SOME TODAY AND SHE'LL BE BACK AGAIN NEXT WEEK. WHEN WE DO OPEN THE DRIVING RANGE, I'VE TALKED WITH OUR SUPERINTENDENT ABOUT MAYBE CREATING SOME NEW TARGETS TO GO OUT THERE. HE'S GOT SOME IDEAS ON THAT. ONCE WE GET EVERYTHING SET UP OUT THERE INSTEAD OF JUST THE ONE FLAGS THAT ARE OUT THERE. WE'RE PROJECTED TO HAVE THE TWO FAIRWAY MOWERS. EXCUSE ME, THOSE SHOULD BE THE GREENS MOWERS, BY THE WAY. THE TWO GREENS MOWERS SHOULD BE DELIVERED IN MAY. WE'VE ALREADY GOT THE FAIRWAY MOWERS. I DO KNOW THAT WE HAVE A SOUTH GO ROLLER, THAT'S SUPPOSED TO BE DELIVERED TO MORRA. THE ROLLERS ARE WHAT GO ON THE GREENS GO BACK AND FORTH, [00:45:01] MAKE THE GREENS REALLY SMOOTH AND TIGHT. NOW HAVING TWO OF THOSE, WE CAN GET WELL AHEAD OF ALL PLAY AND HAVE MAYBE ALL 18 HOLES ROLLED WHEN WE USE IT AS OPPOSED TO SOMETIMES WE CAN ONLY DO NINE HOLES BEFORE GOLFERS CATCH UP. FOOD AND BEVERAGE JANUARY NUMBERS. WE WERE DOWN 5K FOR 2024. AGAIN, BLAMING POOR WEATHER. WE DON'T DO BUSINESS IN THERE FOR GOLFERS IF THE GOLFERS AREN'T THERE. OTHER THAN THAT, THOUGH, WE DID HAVE 19 TOTAL EVENTS IN JANUARY WITH OUR F AND B TOTAL IN ABOUT 25,000, A LITTLE OVER THAT. WE HAD OUR VALENTINE'S DAY DINNER WITH 34 ON THE 14TH, AND THAT TO ME, WELL ATTENDED. WE WOULD LOVE TO GET THESE UP TO 50-60 PEOPLE, SO WE TRY TO MARKET THOSE THROUGH FACEBOOK AND WHATNOT AND TO THE MEMBERSHIP. >> GOING ON TO MEMBERSHIP SALES, WE'VE HAD FOUR NEW ANNUAL MEMBERS JOIN SINCE OUR LAST MEETING, SO THAT PUTS US AT ABOUT 150 MEMBERS, THAT PUTS US ABOUT 220,000 IN MEMBERSHIP ANNUAL FEES. SOME OF THE THINGS I'M TRYING TO DO IS GET SOME OF THESE OTHER CLUBS INVOLVED WITH US SINCE THEY'RE DOING RENOVATIONS. AMELIA NATIONAL HAS HAD SOME INQUIRIES ABOUT PLAYING US, WHAT OUR RATES ARE. WE TELL THEM IT'S AN ANNUAL FEE. BUT I THINK BECAUSE THEY'RE GOING TO BE CLOSED THROUGH MAYBE OCTOBER, SOME OF THEM ARE CONSIDERING THAT, WE'VE HAD ONE OR TWO JOINS, SO THAT'S A POSSIBILITY HERE SHORTLY BECAUSE I THINK THE LAST DAY IS MAYBE MARCH. >> MARCH 17TH. >> YEAH 17. YEAH, RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE OF THE MONTH. >> I KNOW IT'S THE MONDAY THAT THEY'RE CLOSED. I GUESS THEY GO THROUGH THAT WEEKEND. A COUPLE OF THE GIRLS I PLAY WITH. >> WE MAY GET PICK UP SOME OF THAT. IF NOT, IT'S JUST PLAYING THE GOLF COURSE, PAYING GREENS FEES. MARKETING. COUPLE OF THINGS WE'VE ADDED. THE BIGGEST ONE IS ADDING THE BABE RUTH FOUR BY SIX BANNER FOR THE OUTFIELD FENCE. I HATE THAT MEMBER CAMERA IS NOT HERE BECAUSE HE'S THE ONE THAT APPROACHED ME ABOUT DOING IT. THAT'S MY DESIGN, WITH THE HELP OF MARY HAMBURG AND COMMUNICATIONS, WE WENT BACK AND FORTH, AND I THINK THAT'LL LOOK REALLY GOOD IN THE OUTFIELD TO THE BABE RUTH. TOURNAMENTS AND OUTINGS. WE'VE GONE THROUGH WHAT THE MGA WGA. BUT FOR ME, I WANTED TO TALK ABOUT THE TWO BIG ONES WE JUST HAD THAT WERE OUTSIDE EVENTS. THE DUGOUT CLUB WAS FRIDAY THE 21ST. THIS IS AN EXAMPLE OF US HAVING THEY HAD OVER 100 GOLFERS. IF YOU GUYS DON'T REMEMBER, IT WAS ABOUT 47 DEGREES THAT DAY IN ABOUT 50 MILE AN HOUR WIND. WE PROBABLY WOULDN'T HAVE HAD 10 PEOPLE PLAY. THOSE ARE GOOD DAYS FOR US. NOT THAT I WANT TOURNAMENTS TO HAVE POOR WEATHER, BUT THAT WAS GOOD. THE NEXT DAY WAS A LITTLE WARMER, HAD TO BE ON THE BADGES. THEY HAD OVER 100 PLAYERS. EVERYBODY COMPLIMENTED THE GOLF COURSE. HAVING SOME OF THESE PEOPLE COME BACK, ESPECIALLY THE BASEBALL. THEY HADN'T BEEN HERE. SOME OF THEM HAD DON'T COME BACK, BUT MAYBE THIS TIME THIS YEAR TO PLAY IN THAT. TO BE DORMANT IN THE GOLF COURSE IN THE CONDITION IT IS, AND TO HEAR THEM SAY IT'S SO MUCH BETTER THAN LAST YEAR JUST HELPS US HAVE THAT CONFIDENCE THAT WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE THIS PROCESS. WE'RE ATTEMPTING TO GET MORE OF THOSE. JUST TO LET YOU KNOW, IS ANYBODY FAMILIAR WITH THE NEIL HAMPTON TOURNAMENT? WE HAD IT HERE AT FERNANDINA IN 2017, AND MAYBE FOUR OR FIVE YEARS PRIOR TO THAT, AND THEY'VE GONE TO GEORGIA JUST ACROSS THE BORDER FOR IT. THEY'VE REACHED OUT TO US, AND WE BOOKED THAT FOR APRIL. WE'VE GOT A SATURDAY IN APRIL WITH THAT, AND WE'VE ALSO BOOKED ANOTHER JUNIOR TOURNAMENT. THAT'S MY GOAL IS TO TRY TO GET US TO GET THOSE. WE'RE ALSO GOING TO DO SPARK GOLF. I WAS APPROACHED IMMEDIATELY WHEN I STARTED HERE BY SOME FOLKS SAYING THAT THEY HAD THAT AT THE RIVER. WE OUGHT TO CONSIDER IT. AT THE TIME, I WASN'T CONSUMED WITH IT, BUT THEN I REACHED OUT TO THEM. YOU CAN SIGN UP ONLINE. I WILL BE SENDING OUT THE NEWSLETTER WITH THAT INFORMATION IN IT ON SATURDAY, AND WE'LL HAVE AN ATTACHMENT WHERE YOU CAN CLICK ON AND FIND OUT ALL YOU WANT ABOUT SPARK GOLF. IT WORKS OUT GOOD FOR US BECAUSE IT'S ON TUESDAY NIGHTS, AT FIVE, WE'RE GOING TO TRY TO EXPAND SOME HOURS IN THE RESTAURANT TO SEE WHERE THAT GOES, IF WE HAVE PEOPLE HANG OUT AND HAVE SOME DRINKS, MAYBE A FOOD SPECIAL. WE'LL SEE WHERE THAT GROWS TOO, BUT WE'RE GOING TO HOLD THAT FOR UP TO 36 PLAYERS. WE'LL HAVE A GROUP PER NINE. THE GOOD PART ABOUT IT IS, WE'RE GOING TO PUT ON THE GOLF COURSE THAT WE CLOSE ON TUESDAYS BECAUSE [00:50:01] WE TYPICALLY CLOSE A COURSE SO THAT MAINTENANCE CAN DO THEIR JOB, AND USUALLY BY THREE OR FOUR O'CLOCK, THEY'RE DONE. THIS WILL BE ABLE TO SHOTGUN ON THAT NINE, WHICH IS GREAT EXCEPT WHEN WE DO VERIFICATIONS. THOSE WEEKS WILL BE A LITTLE DIFFERENT, TOO. >> WHAT ACTUALLY IS SPARK GOLF? >> SPARK GOLF IS A YOU SIGN UP ONLINE, THEY PAIR YOU UP ON TEAM. YOU CAN JUST SIGN UP INDIVIDUALLY AS A COUPLE, MAYBE AS A FOURSOME, AND THEY PUT YOU RANDOMLY ON TEAMS. IT'S GOING TO COST $39 TO PLAY THE NINE HOLES. THEY GET A CERTAIN PERCENTAGE AND THEY DO ALL THE WORK. THEY'LL PAY OUT THE PRIZES AND EVERYTHING. ALL WE HAVE TO DO IS FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND, IS THEY WILL SEND US AN EMAIL WITH WHO SIGNED UP BY 10 OR 11 O'CLOCK THAT DAY, AND WE'LL PRINT CART SIGNS. THEY'LL KNOW THE GAME. THEY PUT IT ALL ON THEIR PHONE, PUT ALL YOUR SCORES IN, AND THEY CHANGE FORMATS. WE'RE GOING TO LEARN MORE ABOUT IT AS WE GO ALONG, BUT IT'S JUST GOING TO BE GOOD TO GET 20, 30 PLAYERS OUT AT FIVE O'CLOCK ON A TUESDAY WHEN WE NORMALLY MAY NOT. BUT WE'LL STILL BE ABLE TO BECAUSE IF T TIMES ARE ON THE OTHER COURSE, WE'VE GOT THAT NINE TO THE SIDE SET UP JUST FOR THAT. I THINK I SAW ONLINE, WE MAY HAVE 38 MEMBERS ALREADY SIGNED UP. I SAY MEMBERS BECAUSE YOU'RE JOINING SPARK GOLF. MAYBE NINE OR 10 OF THEM HAVE ALREADY SIGNED UP OUT OF THAT FOR THE FIRST TOURNAMENT WE HAVE, WHICH IS ON TUESDAY, APRIL 8TH. I GUESS THE LAST THING I WANT TO SAY, AGAIN, WE ARE STARTING THE BUDGET PROCESS, AS MR. MICHAELSON SAID. MY LAST COMMENT IS, PLEASE, IF ALL OF YOU GUYS COULD ON TUESDAY JUST A REMINDER AGAIN FOR THE GOLF COURSE WORKSHOP. THAT'S ON TUESDAY THE 4TH AT 5:00 PM PRIOR TO THE COMMISSION MEETING. >> IS THAT MAINLY COMMISSIONERS TALKING AND AS WELL AS YOU. >> IT'S MYSELF, MR. MICHAELSON, AND JEREMIAH, WILL BE PRESENTING. WE'LL HAVE A SLIDESHOW DISCUSSION ABOUT THE GOLF COURSE AND THEY'LL LEAD US WITH QUESTIONS, CORRECT? >> THAT IS CORRECT. >> WOULD YOU LIKE TO SEE OUT OF US AS FROM BEING THERE OR ANYTHING? >> THERE WILL BE PUBLIC COMMENT, CORRECT? YOU COULD SPEAK OR JUST BE THERE FOR US, REPRESENT THE GOLF COURSE. ABSOLUTELY. >> I CAN'T BE THERE, I APOLOGIZE. >> YOU TOLD ME THIS MORNING I KNOW. >> I'M AWAITING THE BIRTH OF MY GRANDCHILD, AND I'M GOING TO BE THERE. >> CONGRATULATIONS. >> CONGRATULATIONS. >> TALK ABOUT TODAY. >> YES. SCOTT WANT ME TO TALK ABOUT TODAY. I'M SO CONSUMED WITH JANUARY NUMBERS. BUT FEBRUARY IS GOING TO BE MUCH BETTER AS FAR AS WHEN WE HIT THOSE NUMBERS NEXT MONTH. JUST TALKING ABOUT TODAY, YES, WE HAD A VISIONING SESSION AT THE GOLF COURSE. IF ANYONE WAS OUT, SO THE WHOLE CITY WAS AT THE GOLF COURSE. THAT WAS NICE, CONSIDERING WE DID 218 PLAYERS TODAY. THE GOLF COURSE WAS PACKED. THERE WAS A LOT OF GUESTS PLAYING THURSDAY. THURSDAYS AND SUNDAYS FROM WHAT I'VE NOTICED ARE OUR SLOWER DAYS AND I KNOW THE WEATHER HAS A LOT TO DO WITH IT. BUT YEAH, 218 GOLFERS. WE HAD THE WHOLE CITY OUT, EMPLOYEES, THE COMMISSIONERS OUT TO SEE ALL THAT. THE RESTAURANT WAS BUSY, BUT WE ALSO HAD AND PAM CATES, SHE WAS THERE HELPING KRISTIE, WE HAD A OUTSIDE CATERING THAT WE DID. IT WAS JUST A VERY BUSY DAY, AND WE DID VERY WELL. IT WAS A GOOD DAY, PROBABLY ABOUT OVER $15,000 IN CARTS, GREENS FEE, GOLF SHOP, CATERING. GOOD DAY, AND THE WEATHER WAS GREAT. >> YOU MADE UP FOR THAT 47-DEGREE DAY. >> WELL, WE HAD A GOOD DAY THAT DAY, TOO. >> THEY HAD PLAYERS THAT DAY. >> ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THE NUMBERS? >> YEAH, SOUNDS GOOD. >> I THINK WE'RE MOVING IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION. I REALLY DO. HAVING YOU GUYS THERE FOR THAT MEETING WILL DEFINITELY HELP SHOW THE COMMISSION WE'RE FOR THE GOLF COURSE, AND LIKE I SAID, I SEE THE NEXT COUPLE OF MONTHS BEING JUST GETTING BETTER AS WE FIND WAYS TO GET ON PEOPLE IN THE GOLF COURSE AND GOLF COURSE CONDITIONS. I'M EXCITED TO SEE HOW THEY COME OUT FOR OUR SUPERINTENDENT GOING INTO HIS THIRD SEASON, I GUESS, SEE WHERE WE'RE AT. >> DID THE COURSE DRY OUT TODAY FROM THAT? >> IT DID. IT'S STILL A LITTLE WET. I DIDN'T GO OUT. I SAW IT AFTER THE RAIN. YOU GUYS DID NOT GET TO PLAY WEST ON. [00:55:01] >> WE DID NORTH SOUTH. >> YES. ON WEDNESDAY. I THINK TOMORROW, THEY'LL ALL BE OPEN, AND YOU GUYS WILL BE ON WEST SOUTH AGAIN. >> I PLAYED TODAY. WEST WAS FINE. >> REALLY? >> YEAH. >> FOUR, FIVE. >> WELL, EITHER I DIDN'T GET MY BALL ON MUDDY SPOT, WHICH MIGHT A BIG DIFFERENCE. [LAUGHTER] WELL, I WAS OKAY BECAUSE WE HAD TO FINISH OUR MATCH PUT. NICKY AND I WENT OUT TODAY AND I DIDN'T SEE ANYTHING. >> IT WAS OUR TYPICAL AREAS THAT WE HAVE DRAINAGE. WEST. WHEN IT PILES UP AND PUDDLES UP THERE AND WE GET TWO INCHES IN ABOUT AN HOUR AND A HALF, THAT'S WHAT HAPPENS. ANYTHING ELSE? >> I'M INTERESTED TO SEE THE AREA BETWEEN ONE AND SIX WEST, WHERE THEY'RE CLEARING NOW. THAT AREA IN THE BACK RIGHT HAND SIDE. >> ONE AND SIX? >> YES. >> GO DOWN ONE ON THE RIGHT HAND SIDE? ONE AND EIGHT, AND YOU COME UP EIGHT. >> THAT'S WHERE WE HAD ALL THE STANDING WATER IN THERE THAT LED DOWN TO THE LAKE. IT'LL EVENTUALLY OPEN BACK UP, BUT THAT'S ONE OF THE AREAS THAT IF WE HAVE SOME DRAINAGE THAT WE WANT TO DO WITH THE CITY AND THERE'S A PLAN THERE FOR THAT AREA FOUR AND FIVE UP NEAR THE ROAD NEAR THE AIRPORT. YEAH, ABSOLUTELY. >> WE LOVE WATCHING THOSE GUYS, WE'RE CONVINCED WE'RE GOING TO BE FISHING IN THERE NO TIME SOON. >> ALWAYS WORKING OUT THERE. THE COURSE IS LOOKING FANTASTIC. IT REALLY IS. >> YEAH, I AGREE. >> IT'S A LOT MORE PLAYABLE. >> PEOPLE ARE TALKING ABOUT IT. WE'RE REMINDING PEOPLE TOO, HEY, WHEN THEY MENTIONED SOMETHING TO ANYBODY IN THE SHOP OR EVEN OUR GUYS ON THE GOLF COURSE. THANK YOU, WOULD YOU MIND DOING A GOOGLE REVIEW? WOULD YOU MIND DOING A GOLF NOW REVIEW? I THINK OUR GOOGLE RATING HAS GONE UP I THINK SINCE OUR SUPERINTENDENT'S BEEN THERE BECAUSE HE TRACKS IT FROM, LIKE, A 3.2 STAR TO ALMOST 3.9. >> GOOD. >> THAT'S A GOOD BIT. WE'RE GETTING BETTER REVIEWS AS THE COURSE CONDITIONS CONTINUE. >> THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU ALL. >> ITEM 11, BOARD MEMBER COMMENTS. [11. BOARD MEMBER COMMENTS] >> I WANT TO BRING SOMETHING UP. THIS REALLY ISN'T ANYTHING TO DO WITH THE GOLF COURSE SO MUCH, BUT A COUPLE OF THE WOMEN HAD NOTICED THE GOLF CART CROSSING LINES ALONG [INAUDIBLE] THEY'RE REALLY GETTING FADED DOWN. IF THE CITY AT SOME POINT, I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S ON THEIR AGENDA, WHEN YOU CROSS OVER THE PARKWAY? >> I DON'T KNOW WHERE YOU'RE TALK ABOUT. >> YEAH. YOU DON'T SEE THEM TOO WELL, AND SOMEBODY ALSO BROUGHT UP THE ONES ON LOS ROBLES. THEY'RE LIKE NON EXISTENT. YOU CAN SEE A FAINT SHADOW OF WHERE THEY WERE. THEY HAD MENTIONED THAT, BUT THAT REALLY IS A CITY THING. THEN I NOTICED THIS, AND THIS GOES BACK TO SOMETHING SCOTT HAD SAID A LONG TIME AGO ABOUT CREDIT CARD FEES. A LOT OF PLACES ARE NOW CHARGING FOR A CREDIT CARD FEE. YOU SEE, HERE'S YOUR COST AND $1.50 OR WHATEVER THEIR PERCENTAGE RATE IS WITH THE BANKS, ADDED ONTO IT. I THINK A LOT OF TIMES IT'S LIKE A 3%, YOU CAN GET AS LOW AS 1.2%. THEY'RE ADDING THAT EXTRA SO THAT THEY'RE PAYING THE CREDIT CARD FEES, BECAUSE I THINK YOU SAID AT ONE POINT IT WAS LIKE $60,000, AND I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S SOMETHING THAT YOU WANT TO CONSIDER FOR THE COURSE BECAUSE I KNOW THEY'RE DOING IT AT ANOTHER GOLF COURSE BECAUSE I PAID WITH A CREDIT CARD AND SAW THAT. >> THEY HAD A SIGN UP? >> I DON'T RECALL IF THEY HAD A SIGN UP, I SAW IT ON MY RECEIPT. FOR SOME REASON, I KNEW, BUT YEAH, I THINK I WOULD JUST SAY WE NOW CHARGE FOR CREDIT CARD FEES, BUT I'VE HEARD SOMEBODY SAYING THAT EVEN DOCTOR'S OFFICES ARE DOING IT. I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S SOMETHING YOU WANT TO CONSIDER BECAUSE THAT'S A CONSIDERABLE AMOUNT OF MONEY. >> SCOTT, WHEN SOMEBODY COMES IN TO USE THE REC CENTER, AND THEY HAVE TO PAY, DO YOU ADD CREDIT CARD FEES? >> YES, SIR. >> SUCH DO THAT THE GOLF COURSE? >> YES. SO IN OUR VISIONING SESSION, ONE OF THE DEPARTMENTS HAD MENTIONED TO IS REDUCING THE COST OF THOSE FEES THAT WE DO HAVE TO PAY. PAM, IF YOU CAN, I DON'T MEAN TO PUT YOU ON THE SPOT. I THINK LAST YEAR, WASN'T IT OR WE'RE BUDGETING $50,000, $60,000 IN THOSE EXPENSES. YES, THAT IS AN EXPENSE THAT WE ARE CURRENTLY BUDGETING. YES, TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, WE DO HAVE THAT SERVICE CHARGE. ANOTHER THING THAT WE COULD LOOK AT TOO IS LET'S SAY, IF YOU DO COME IN, THERE'S MULTIPLE WAYS TO LOOK AT IT, AND YES, WE CAN DO THAT. [01:00:02] WE COULD LOOK AT IT, WELL, IF YOU USE IF YOU PAY WITH A CHECK OR CASH, THEN THERE COULD BE A SAVINGS. WE CAN LOOK INTO THAT, YES [OVERLAPPING] >> THAT'S $1,000 A WEEK. I THINK IT BECOMES MORE FEASIBLE LIKE MEMBERSHIPS, WHERE YOU'RE PAYING A LARGER AMOUNT ON A SWIM MEMBERSHIP. I WRITE A CHECK TO AVOID YOU. >> YEAH, THERE'S PEOPLE THAT WILL DEFINITELY COME IN WITH CASH OR CHECK AND TO AVOID THAT FEE. THAT'S OKAY. >> YEAH, YOU'RE NOT PAYING THE FEE IF THEY PAY IN CASH SO YOU'RE NOT LOSING ANYTHING. >> EXACTLY. IT'S JUST A CREDIT CARD FEE. GOOD POINT, THANK YOU. >> THE MOTION TO ADJOURN. >> SECOND. >> ALL IN FAVOR. >> AYE. >> AYE. >> AYE. >> MEETING IS ADJOURNED. * This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.