[00:00:07] >> [BACKGROUND] CALLING TO ORDER THE PARKS AND RECREATION ADVISORY COMMITTEE. [1. CALL TO ORDER] REGULAR MEETING SCHEDULED FOR FEBRUARY THE 11TH, 2025 IN THE CITY HALL COMMISSIONER'S CHAMBER. PLEASE CALL THE ORDER. >> MEMBER SPAULDING. >> HERE. >> MEMBER PEARLSTINE. MEMBER COCCHI. >> HERE. >> CHAIR CAMERA. >> HERE. >> VICE CHAIR MOUNTJOY. >> HERE. >> MEMBER CURRY. MEMBER GUNN. >> HERE. >> PLEASE STAND FOR THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE. >> >> ITEM NUMBER 4, [4. APPROVAL OF MINUTES] APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES FOR JANUARY, 2025. >> I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE. >> I'LL SECOND THE MOTION. >> YOU CAN CALL THE ROLL. >> OH, CALL THE ROLL, PLEASE. ALL IN FAVOR. >> AYE. >> [INAUDIBLE]. >> NUMBER 5, PUBLIC COMMENTS REGARDING ITEMS NOT ON THE AGENDA. [5. PUBLIC COMMENT REGARDING ITEMS NOT ON THE AGENDA] >> NO REQUESTS THIS EVENING. >> NUMBER 6, STAFF COMMENTS. [6. STAFF COMMENTS] >> GOOD EVENING. SCOTT MICHAELSON, PARKS AND RECREATION DIRECTOR. THE PLAN FOR TONIGHT IS, I'M JUST GOING TO TAKE A LITTLE BIT OF YOUR TIME AND GIVE YOU WHERE WE ARE IN THIS YEAR'S PROJECTS, PROGRAMS, AND ULTIMATELY TONIGHT, I WANT TO SET THE STAGE FOR THE NEXT FEW MONTHS COMING FORWARD. WE WILL HAVE SOME ITEMS IN THE VERY NEAR FUTURE THAT WE WILL BE ASKING FOR GUIDANCE RECOMMENDATIONS THROUGH PRAC TO GO ON TO THE CITY COMMISSION FOR SOME ITEMS, AND I'LL BE EXPLAINING THOSE AS WE GO ALONG. BUT FIRST OF ALL, I JUST WANTED TO GO THROUGH OUR NORMAL UPDATE, AND OBVIOUSLY, YOU GUYS HAVE REVIEWED THIS, BUT THERE'S A FEW MORE ITEMS THAT I HAVE ADDED JUST IN THE LAST COUPLE DAYS TO GO OVER. I'LL GO OFF BOTH SHEETS OF PAPER AND THE OVERHEAD. AS YOU ARE AWARE, WE ARE WORKING WITH A CONTRACTOR. WE WENT UNDER CONTRACT WITH A COMPANY TO DO SOME BEACH BOARDWALK REPAIR. WE HAVE INDIVIDUALS IN OUR DEPARTMENT THAT CAN DO THE WORK, BUT WITH TIME AND EVERYTHING, WE NEED SOME ASSISTANCE. BEACH ACCESS 30 WAS COMPLETED. I DON'T REMEMBER IF I WAS ABLE TO GIVE THAT UPDATE AT THE LAST MEETING, BUT IT IS COMPLETED. BEACH ACCESS 5N IS WHERE WE HAD FIRE DAMAGE. THAT WAS ALSO COMPLETED. ITEM NUMBER 3 IS THE SKATE PARK. AS YOU ARE AWARE, WE ARE GOING THROUGH AND REPAIRING OUR EXISTING SKATE PARK. FIRST PHASE WAS TWO RAMPS, SECOND PHASE WAS ANOTHER TWO RAMPS, AND THE FINAL PHASE IS GOING TO BE THE FINAL TWO RAMPS. THIS PROJECT WAS ROLLED OVER TO THIS FISCAL YEAR. THE SKATE PARK IS REMAINING OPEN. THE GENTLEMAN WHO'S DOING THE FABRICATION IS GOING TO BE DOING IT OFFSITE, BRINGING THE MATERIAL TO THE SKATE PARK, AND THEN WE WILL BE DOING THE REPAIR INSTALLMENTS, SO WE'RE ABLE TO KEEP THE TWO LARGE RAMPS THAT ARE THERE OPEN WHILE HE'S DOING THE FINAL PHASE. >> SCOTT, YOU SAID THAT THAT MONEY ROLLOVER FROM LAST YEAR, YOU SAID THAT MONEY IS THERE, IT'S NOT COMING OUT OF THIS YEAR'S BUDGET? >> YES, THAT IS CORRECT. >> IT GETS PUT IN, BUT IT WAS ALREADY ALLOCATED LAST YEAR. >> YES, THAT IS CORRECT. I BELIEVE THERE'S $21,000 STILL IN THAT ACCOUNT THAT WE WILL OWE THAT GENTLEMAN, THE CONTRACTOR, WHEN HE'S COMPLETE. >> THAT'LL ZERO THAT OUT. I KNOW WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT THE THE SKATE PARK EXPANSION LATER. [00:05:06] BUT IS IT YOUR OPINION THAT THESE REPAIRS THAT WE'RE MAKING ONCE WE GET THESE FINAL ONES REPAIRED, THAT THOSE WILL LAST UNTIL POTENTIALLY A SKATE PARK GETS BUILT, AND THEN THAT SECOND PHASE [OVERLAPPING] THAT ENTIRELY, IS THAT IT? >> YES, THAT THAT WAS THE WHOLE GOAL BEHIND IT. THE SECTIONS OF THE RAMPS THAT ARE ACTUALLY THE RAMP, THOSE SECTIONS ARE STILL IN GREAT SHAPE. THEY WERE GALVANIZED. THE STANCHION PART OF IT, THAT'S THE PART THAT WE'RE COMPLETELY REDOING. WITH THIS AND THOSE BEING GALVANIZED, WE'RE LOOKING AT MANY, I WOULD BE CONFIDENT IN SAYING 7-10 YEARS OF. >> WHAT'S THE TOTAL EXPENSE THAT'S GOING TO COME OUT? IT WAS LIKE 63,000 BEFORE AND THEN WHATEVER THIS [OVERLAPPING]. >> THAT WOULD BE THE TOTAL AMOUNT. >> OH, TOTAL. >> THAT'S THE TOTAL AMOUNT, YES. KATIE, IF YOU DON'T MIND, I WANTED TO BRING THIS UP, AND WE'RE ACTUALLY GOING TO TALK ABOUT IT A LITTLE BIT FURTHER DOWN. BUT THE CITY AND THE COUNTY HAD A JOINT COMMISSION MEETING LAST WEEK. WE HAD RECEIVED THE CONCEPTUAL DRAWING OF THE SKATE PARK, I BELIEVE, DON'T QUOTE ME, BUT THE DAY BEFORE ON THIS. THANK YOU. THE CONCEPTUAL DESIGN WAS SHOWN AT THE CITY COUNTY MEETING. THIS IS AN ITEM THAT'S GOING TO BE BROUGHT BACK TO PRAC, AND THE PLAN IS IN MARCH. IF YOU REMEMBER, THE PREVIOUS COMMISSION HAD BUDGETED, WITH OUR EXISTING BUDGET, $90,000. $30,000 WAS SPENT AND WE GOT A CONCEPTUAL DESIGN. NOW, THIS IS JUST ONE PAGE. WE DON'T [NOISE] NEED TO GO THROUGH ALL OF THAT. I BELIEVE I HAD SENT YOU A COPY OF THE PACKET. WHAT WE WILL BE ASKING FOR IN MARCH IS THE NEXT STEP OF THIS IS THE CONSTRUCTION DRAWINGS. THAT PRICE TAG IS ABOUT $60,000. NOW, REMEMBER, THEN WE OBVIOUSLY HAVE TO PAY TO BUILD THE SKATE PARK. THIS HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE CONSTRUCTION OF THE SKATE PARK. AS WE ARE ALL AWARE, THESE ARE THE CONCEPTUAL DRAWINGS, AND WE'LL BE PRESENTING THAT AT THE NEXT MEETING. ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS REGARDING THAT? >> GO AHEAD. >> A COUPLE OF THINGS ABOUT THIS BECAUSE I WAS AT THE JOINT MEETING WITH THE COUNTY AND I WAS ACTUALLY SURPRISED TO HEAR THEIR INFORMATION. I TALKED TO WALLY ABOUT THIS A LITTLE BIT. CAN YOU SCROLL UP ABOUT FIVE PICTURES WHERE YOU REALLY SEE THAT BOWL? THAT'S GOOD. ONE OF THE THINGS I SUGGESTED TO WALLY BECAUSE THEY'RE USING A SEA TURTLE AS A JUMP FEATURE SOMEWHERE ELSE AS PART OF THE DESIGN. BUT TO ME, FROM AN AERIAL STANDPOINT, THAT ALMOST LOOKS LIKE A SEA TURTLE, THAT BOWL, SO I SUGGESTED TO THEM THAT MAYBE THEY COULD LOOK AT MAYBE, GIVEN THAT SOME FLIPPERS OR WHATEVER, SO IT REALLY LOOKS LIKE A SEA TURTLE. >> I THOUGHT THE SAME. I WAS LIKE IS THAT A TURTLE [OVERLAPPING]? >> THAT IT COULD LOOK REALLY COOL FROM AN AERIAL VIEW WHEN THEY'RE DOING EVENTS AND STUFF. BUT ONE OF THE THINGS I ALWAYS AM ASKING WHEN WE'RE UP HERE IS LIKE, ALL THESE IDEAS WE HAVE ARE WONDERFUL, BUT HOW ARE WE GOING TO PAY FOR THESE? IT WAS INTERESTING WHEN THE COUNTY OFFERED UP THAT THESE COULD BE PART OF THE MAINE BEACH HARMONIZATION PROJECT AND THAT SOME OF THE FUNDING COULD BE FROM THERE. I WILL SAY THOUGH WHEN I SAW THE NUMBERS OF WHAT THIS ACTUALLY IS GOING TO COST BASED ON JUST LIKE PRELIMINARIES, IT'S CLOSE TO DOUBLE WHAT THEY HAD ORIGINALLY PROJECTED. I WORRY TOO WITH PROJECTS THAT ARE GOING TO BE COMING UP IN THE NEXT YEAR TO LIKE WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT NATIONALLY. SOME OF THE IMPACTS THAT ARE GOING TO BE HAD FINANCIALLY. [00:10:03] JUST THINKING ABOUT ALL OF THOSE THINGS AS WE'RE GOING FORWARD, I FULLY SUPPORT THE SKATE PARK. I THINK THERE NEEDS TO BE A SKATE PARK. HOW WE FUND THAT AND HOW THAT DEVELOPS, I'LL BE INTERESTED TO SEE THAT AS IT UNFOLDS. I THOUGHT THEY WERE SOME COOL DESIGN, THE WAY IT'S LAID OUT. >> I THINK IT LOOKS GREAT. MY ONLY QUESTION IS, SO THE RAMPS THAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE, ARE THOSE GOING TO BE INCORPORATED? WHAT WILL WE DO WITH [OVERLAPPING]? >> KATIE, CAN YOU GO TO THE WHOLE PICTURE? >> IF THEY'RE IN GOOD SHAPE. IF THEY HAVE 7-10 YEARS, IT SEEMS LIKE THEY WOULD [OVERLAPPING]. >> THE WAY THAT THEY HAD QUOTED THE PROJECT IS THEY QUOTED IT TWO WAYS. IT'S TO DO IT COMPLETELY OR TO BREAK IT OUT. >> THAT'S DOING IT COMPLETELY. >> THIS RIGHT HERE, ACTUALLY RIGHT HERE, AND THIS IS WHERE THIS IS A CONCEPTUAL DESIGN. THIS IS THE BREAKING POINT RIGHT HERE IN THIS AREA. WE CAN LOOK AT IT TWO WAYS. IS CAN WE BUILD THIS SECTION? THE IDEA THEN WERE TO KEEP THIS SECTION THAT'S CURRENTLY THERE WITH THE EXISTING RAMPS. THEN DOWN THE ROAD AS THESE RAMPS FAIL, THEY ARE METAL, THEY WILL, WOULD BE THEN TO BUILD THIS SECOND SECTION. BUILDING IT IN TWO SECTIONS COSTS MORE THAN BUILDING IT AT ONE TIME. >> BUT THE OTHER PIECE OF THAT IS LIKE IMPACT FEES WE CAN USE FOR NEW PROJECTS. >> [OVERLAPPING] WHAT WE TALKED ABOUT DOING ANYTHING. >> THE OTHER PART THAT I UNDERSTOOD THAT SEPARATE FROM THE PIECES THAT WE HAVE NOW THAT ARE LIKE THE WOOD AND STEEL SITUATIONS, IS THAT THEN ALL OF THOSE RAMPS AND THINGS WOULD BE CONCRETE, LIKE THE REST OF IT SO THEN THEY HAVE A LONGER LIFE ALTOGETHER THEN, THE 7-10 YEARS. I FEEL LIKE FOR THE AMOUNT THAT WE ARE SPENDING, THE $63,000 TO REFURBISH THAT, IN MY OPINION, I'M NOT THE FABRICATOR OR WHATEVER, BUT IN MY OPINION, FOR THE LONGEVITY THAT WE WOULD GET OUT OF IT TO GET TO THIS PROJECT WOULD BE WELL WORTH WHAT WE SPEND. >> NO, YEAH. I JUST WAS WONDERING IF ANYONE'S TALKED ABOUT USING THEM IN ANY OTHER WAY AFTER EVEN IF WE DO THE WHOLE THING BECAUSE IT'S LIKE IF WE HAVE THEM, I DIDN'T KNOW. >> THOSE WILL BE DISCUSSIONS WE HAVE. WE HAD TO DO THIS FOR SAFETY PURPOSES ANYWAY. TO ME, WE SPENT THE MONEY TO REPAIR THEM, YOU WOULD WANT TO KEEP THEM THERE UNTIL AT LEAST THEY START FAILING. THIS IS THE EXPENSIVE SIDE. >> YES. I HAVE TWO QUESTIONS. DO WE NEED TO GET THE COMMUNITY INVOLVED IN THIS PROJECT AROUND THERE TO GET THIS THING DONE? DO WE HAVE TO GO TO THE NEIGHBORS OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT? >> ULTIMATELY, YES. I THINK MAKING THE COMMUNITY AWARE, THIS IS THE DISCUSSION THAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN AT OUR NEXT BOARD MEETING. IT'S IF WE WANT TO MOVE FORWARD AND SPEND THE $60,000 FOR CONSTRUCTION DRAWINGS, THAT'S FINE, BUT WE ALSO HAVE TO HAVE LOOK INTO IT EVEN FURTHER IS WE SHOULD KNOW HOW WE'RE GOING TO PAY FOR IT IF WE'RE GOING TO BE SPENDING THAT ADDITIONAL MONEY. >> CORRECT. >> [OVERLAPPING] I'M SORRY. HAS THE FRIENDS OF FERNANDINA APPROVED THIS? >> YES. >> THEY WERE INVOLVED. >> BUT THEY'RE GOOD WITH IT. OR IF THEY HAVE EDITS, IS THAT GOING TO BE DONE BEFORE [OVERLAPPING]? >> THEY HAVE SIGNED OFF. >> [OVERLAPPING] TO US AT THE NEXT MEETING. OKAY. >> THEY WILL BE HERE AT THE NEXT MEETING, YES. THEY WERE A PART OF THIS. >> THEN THE LAST PART IS THE PARKING WHICH CONCERNS ME GETTING ENOUGH PARKING. HOW MUCH THE IMPACT THAT WILL HAVE ON WHAT WE BUILD AND WHAT WE HAVE EXISTING WITH OUR RELATIONSHIP WITH THE RESTAURANT? [00:15:01] >> WELL, I WOULD THINK THAT. >> WE'RE TAKING SPACES AWAY FROM THE RESTAURANT. >> ARE YOU REQUIRED TO HAVE A CERTAIN NUMBER OF [OVERLAPPING]. >> YOU DON'T THINK SO? >> WELL, WHEN YOU SAY TAKING SPACES AWAY, WE'RE NOT REMOVING ANY SPACES OF PARKING. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'RE SAYING WE'RE GOING TO REMOVE SPACES, OR ARE YOU THAT JUST BECAUSE [OVERLAPPING]. >> ARE WE REMOVING SPACES [OVERLAPPING]? >> NO. >> NO, SIR. >> IT'S GOING OUT THE OTHER WAY. >> YEAH. THIS IS [INAUDIBLE] RIGHT HERE. >> IT'S TAKING OVER [OVERLAPPING]. >> THIS IS THE EXISTING SKATE PARK. THIS GOES A LITTLE BIT NORTHEAST. >> SOMETHING THAT WAS NOT CLEAR TO ME FROM, AND I DIDN'T THINK TO ASK WHEN I STAYED BEHIND. WE KNOW THAT THE SKATE PARK FOLKS WOULD LIKE TO HAVE A SKATE PARK AS SOON AS THEY CAN GET A SKATE PARK. IT WAS NOT CLEAR TO ME FROM THE DISCUSSIONS ABOUT IF THE COUNTY IS WORKING ON THE BEACH HARMONIZATION PROJECT FOR MAINE BEACH. IF THAT'S 3-5 YEARS OUT, WHAT'S THE [OVERLAPPING]? >> I DON'T THINK THEY WERE COMFORTABLE GIVING AN EXACT TIMETABLE ON THAT, THEIR MAIN FOCUS IS SEASIDE PARK. >> FIRST. I DID GET THAT. >> YES, THEIR MAIN FOCUS IS SEASIDE. >> I THINK THAT THOSE ARE ALL OBVIOUSLY THINGS WE WOULD NEED TO GET PINNED DOWN FROM THE COUNTY IF THAT'S GOING TO BE THE PRIMARY SOURCE OF FUNDING. WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE OF HOW WE ARE PLANNING AND ALLOCATING TO [OVERLAPPING]. >> WELL, IF THEY'RE LOOKING AT 3-5 YEARS, AND IF WE HAVE SOME GUARANTEE FROM THEM THAT THEY'RE GOING TO CHIP IN AND BE A PART OF THIS. I'D HATE TO SPEND $63,000 ON CONSTRUCTION DRAWINGS NOW THAT IN 3-5 YEARS COULD POSSIBLY BE OUTDATED. I FEEL LIKE PERMITS AND CONSTRUCTION AND MATERIALS ALL CHANGE, SO IF YOU GET THEM DONE, ARE YOU GOING TO HAVE TO REVISIT THAT IF YOU'RE NOT BUILDING FOR THREE YEARS? >> AT OUR MARCH MEETING, I'M GOING TO START OUR MARCH MEETING AND GIVE YOU A HERE'S WHERE WE ARE WITH OUR IMPACT FEE MONEY. HERE'S THE AMOUNT OF MONEY. I ACTUALLY JUST SPOKE WITH ALISHA THIS AFTERNOON AND GIVE A REALLY CLOSE NUMBER OF WHERE WE ARE WITH OUR IMPACT FEE MONEY AND WHAT IS ALREADY ALLOCATED. THERE'S ITEMS THAT ARE ALREADY ALLOCATED IN THAT THE WATERFRONT PARK, YBOR ALVAREZ, MARTIN LUTHER KING, THE HICKORY STREET BATHROOMS. WE CAN HAVE THIS DISCUSSION NEXT MONTH, BUT WHEN YOU TAKE ALL THAT STUFF OUT, THERE'S NOT MUCH MONEY LEFT; LIKE NOT MUCH AT ALL. THOSE ARE CONVERSATIONS THAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO HAVE AND I WANT TO HAVE THAT NEXT MONTH. >> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS REGARDING? >> HOW IS IT FINANCIALLY FEASIBLE? DO WE KNOW WHAT WE NEED FROM THE STATE OR FROM OTHER SOURCES TO ACTUALLY MAKE IT WORK? >> THERE WAS, IS IT 2.4? AS THIS RENDERING IS, IS THAT THE NUMBER? >> I THINK THE NUMBER ON THIS THERE IS A COST ANALYSIS ON THE LAST SHEET. I THINK IT WAS ACTUALLY 1.9. 1.6 TO BUILD THE NEW SECTION TO THE NORTH, JUST OVER 300,000-351,000 RIGHT HERE. PHASE 1 WOULD BE THE NORTHERN PART. >> JACK, THERE'S WAYS LIKE OUR LIBRARY HERE. THAT LIBRARY GOT BUILT BECAUSE THE FRIENDS OF THE LIBRARY RAISED, I DON'T KNOW IF IT WAS $600,000 OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. THEY RAISED MONEY. THEY HAD FUND RAISERS, BOOK SALES. THEY BROUGHT THAT MONEY. THE COUNTY BROUGHT SOME MONEY, I THINK THE CITY BROUGHT SOME MONEY. AND I HAD A CONVERSATION NOT WITH WALLY BECAUSE HE WAS ON THE BOARD, WITH THE MIKE NICHOLS, WHO'S ON THE FRIENDS OF FERNANDINA STATE PARK WHEN THIS CAME UP LAST YEAR AND I SAID TO THEM, I WOULD SUGGEST THAT YOU GUYS START REALLY FUNDRAISING A FUND RAISING EFFORT TO SHOW WHOEVER IS GOING TO PAY FOR THIS THAT YOU GUYS HAVE GOT SOME SKIN IN THE GAME, YOU'RE DRIVING THESE CONCEPTUAL DRAWINGS. YOU REALLY ARE MAKING IT A PLACE FOR YOUR ORGANIZATION TO THRIVE. SO SHOW UP WITH SOME SKIN IN THE GAME. THEN IT MAKES IT EASIER TO ASK, AT THAT POINT WE WERE TALKING ABOUT $1.4 MILLION. BUT IF THEY SAY, HEY, WE'VE GOT A HALF A MILLION DOLLARS. HEY, CAN THE COUNTY GIVE US A HALF A MILLION DOLLARS? CAN THE CITY GIVE A HALF A MILLION DOLLARS? THAT'S A DIFFERENT CONVERSATION FOR EVERYBODY. IT'S A LITTLE MORE PALATABLE. THE PRICE IS OBVIOUSLY INCREASED, BUT THE TDC MONEY THAT WE HAVE OR THAT COULD BE SPENT FROM THE BEACH HARMONIZATION PROJECT, [00:20:03] IF THEY'RE WILLING TO INCORPORATE THAT IN THEIR OVERALL MAINE BEACH, WHICH TO ME, FROM A PLANNING STANDPOINT, MAKES A LOT OF SENSE. YOU'RE GOING TO DO ALL OF THIS TO MAKE THIS REALLY NICE, MAKE IT COHESIVE, MAKE IT ALL OF ONE THING. MAYBE THERE'S SOME MONEY WE HADN'T CONSIDERED BEFORE. BUT YES, NOW THE NUMBERS ARE BIGGER THAN WHAT WE THOUGHT. I DON'T THINK NUMBERS ARE GOING TO GO DOWN ANY TIME SOON. SO HOW DO WE FEASIBLY PLAN FOR THAT SO THAT WE CAN MAKE SURE THE MONEY IS THERE AND THAT WE'RE NOT JUST OFF CHASING DREAMS THAT ARE NEVER GOING TO COME TRUE? THAT'S DISAPPOINTING FOR PEOPLE AND IT'S A WASTE OF MONEY. HOW CAN WE COME AT THIS FROM A WAY THAT WE REALLY CAN EXECUTE IT IS WHAT I WOULD BE INTERESTED IN? >> THEY DID DISCUSS AT THE JOINT MEETING IS THE EXISTING LOCATION WHERE IT IS, THAT WAS ONE OF THE LOCATIONS THAT WAS TALKED IN THEIR BEACH HARMONIZATION DESIGNS. THAT KEEPING IT IN THE GENERAL AREA WHERE THE EXISTING PARK IS, THAT WAS IN ONE OF THE CONCEPTUAL DESIGNS. >> OKAY. I MEAN, MAYBE IT WOULD MAKE SENSE TO KNOW WHAT WE CAN REALISTICALLY AFFORD. LIKE KNOWING WHAT WE NEED FOR MAINTENANCE, FOR OTHER PROJECTS, AND THEN WE KNOW THAT WE CAN USE X FOR THIS. AS LONG AS WE CAN GET THERE WITH OTHER SOURCES, WE'RE GOOD. BUT IT JUST SEEMS LIKE A LARGE COMMITMENT WITHOUT REALLY KNOWING HOW WE'RE GOING TO DO IT. >> ALL RIGHT. WE'LL MOVE ON. >> THANK YOU, SCOTT FOR ALL THE WORK YOU GUYS HAVE BEEN DOING. >> THANK YOU. BEACH ACCESS 28. KATIE, YOU HAVE A PICTURE? >> YEAH. >> PLEASE. BEACH ACCESS 28, SAME AS. >> I CAN'T MAKE IT WORK. >> WHERE IS THAT ABOUT? >> SORRY. >> IT'S JUST NORTH OF THE SURF RESTAURANT. >> OH, OKAY. >> YEAH. WE HAD MTSU DOLLARS, SO GRANT FROM THE COUNTY AND THEY RE-DECK 30, AND THEY ARE STARTING 28. HOPEFULLY BY THE END OF THIS MONTH, THIS WILL BE COMPLETE. I JUST WANTED TO GIVE YOU AN UPDATE ON THAT. THE FACADE AT THE ATLANTIC RECREATION CENTER. SOME OF THE WORK THAT THEY HAVE DONE AT THE PECK CENTER, WE'RE STARTING THAT SAME WORK. IT'S THE REDOING OF THE MORTAR AT THE ATLANTIC RECREATION CENTER. THE ATLANTIC CENTER, THAT'S ACTUALLY THE SECOND PHASE OF WORK. WE'RE ALSO DOING THIS BUDGET YEAR THE SECOND PHASE OF THE WINDOW REPLACEMENT AT THE ATLANTIC RECREATION CENTER. >> HEY, SCOTT. I'M SORRY. I SENT YOU GUYS AN EMAIL ABOUT THE LIGHTS AT THE REC CENTER. >> YES. YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE? >> THE EXTERIOR OUTDOOR LIGHTS THAT HAVE BEEN OFF FOR QUITE A LONG TIME. >> YEAH. OKAY. WHAT HAPPENED IS WE WERE CLEANING OUT SOME AREA ON THE WEST SIDE OF THE PARKING LOT. WHILE WE WERE DOING THAT, WE WERE GOING TO MOVE OR WE ARE GOING TO MOVE A LIGHT POLE THAT IS RIGHT BY OUR DUMPSTER THAT GETS BACKED INTO A LOT. WE WERE GOING TO MOVE THAT POLE OVER TO THE WEST AS WELL. FPU SAID THEY WOULD NOT MOVE THAT UNTIL THE LINE THAT CUTS RIGHT JUST PAST ABOUT 5-10 FEET INTO THE WOODED AREA IS CLEARED. SO WE HAD TO CLEAR THE DEBRIS OFF OF THAT LINE. THAT'S COMPLETE. FPU THEN IS GOING TO COME BACK AND TURN THE POWER ON. >> DO WE HAVE AN ETA ON THAT? >> I HOPE THIS WEEK. >> THANK YOU. >> YES. HICKORY STREET PARK GOLD DATE IS AT LEAST BY THE END OF OCTOBER. >> APRIL. >> I'M SORRY. APRIL. >> FEELS LIKE OCTOBER. >> YEAH. I DID HAVE NUMBER 8 ON THERE AS DISCUSSING THE CONCEPTUAL DRAWINGS, BUT WE HAVE DONE THAT. THE BATTING CAGES AT CENTRAL PARK, WE DID GO OUT TO BID. THIS IS A $50,000 GRANT FROM THE COUNTY AS WELL. THE BIDS CAME IN A LITTLE BIT HIGHER THAN EXPECTED. QUITE A BIT HIGHER. SO $89,000 IS GOING TO BE PAID BY BABE RUTH BASEBALL ORGANIZATION TO COVER THAT COST. >> ONE HUNDRED AND FORTY THOUSAND DOLLARS. [00:25:02] >> THE ENTIRE COST CAME IN AT $139,000. THAT ITEM ON YOUR NOTES GOING FURTHER DOWN IS TO GO TO THE COMMISSION. WE WENT OUT TO BID. NOW WE HAVE TO GO BACK TO THE COMMISSION ON FEBRUARY 18 TO GET THAT CONTRACT OR TO GET THAT BID AWARDED. ALSO, WE HAVE RECEIVED ALL OF OUR NEW AEDS AND WE HAVE JUST A FEW LEFT TO INSTALL. THAT SHOULD BE FINISHING UP HERE IN THE NEXT COUPLE OF WEEKS. OUR DEPARTMENT PROBABLY HAS THE MOST FORWARD FACING OUTDOOR AEDS IN PARKS AROUND THE CITY. WE WILL BE DOING BASICALLY A SOCIAL MEDIA POST AND JUST TRYING TO GET THE PUBLIC AWARE OF WHERE EXACTLY OUR AEDS ARE THROUGHOUT THE CITY AT OUR PARKS. THEN I DID HAVE A FEW OTHER THINGS THAT I DID WANT TO MENTION AND THESE ARE NOT ON YOUR LIST, SO I'LL TELL YOU WHEN I GO BACK TO YOUR LIST. THE SHADE STRUCTURES. WE TOOK THE SHADE STRUCTURES DOWN FROM THE LAST HURRICANE. WE ARE IN THE PROCESS OF PUTTING THOSE BACK UP. WE PUT THE ONES UP. THERE'S SOME THAT ACTUALLY NEED SOME REPAIRS, SO WE'RE GETTING THOSE FIXED, AND THEN WE ARE GOING TO PUT THOSE UP AS WELL. WE'RE GOING THROUGH THAT PROCESS. NOT ONLY ARE WE PUTTING THEM UP, THERE'S RUST ON THESE STRUCTURES THAT NEED TO BE ADDRESSED, SO WE'RE WORKING THROUGH THAT AS WELL. >> DO YOU HAVE ANY KIND OF TIMELINE ON THE MAINE BEACH ONES? >> THAT'S ONE OF THE ONES THAT HAS TO BE REPAIRED. I'M SURE YOU'VE SEEN THAT STRUCTURE. IT'S NOT IN GREAT SHAPE. THE GOAL IS TO HAVE THEM DONE BY THE END OF THIS MONTH. >> OKAY. >> THAT'S THE GOAL. >> ARE THOSE SHADE STRUCTURES? I MEAN, I'M ASSUMING THAT THERE'S SOME SORT OF NYLON OR MESH OR SOME SORT OF WOVEN FABRIC LIKE THAT. I WOULD IMAGINE SOMETHING LIKE THOSE WEAR OUT PRETTY QUICKLY. ARE THERE OTHER THINGS THAT WE COULD CONSIDER THAT ARE MORE PERMANENT OR RESILIENT, OR IS THAT JUST THE STANDARD THING IS THOSE SHADES? >> I THINK YOU POSE A GREAT QUESTION AND I THINK THAT WE NEED TO LOOK INTO DIFFERENT STRUCTURES THAT ARE MORE MAINTENANCE FRIENDLY. I WOULD THINK THAT AND WE ACTUALLY ARE STARTING THAT PROCESS. EVERY STORM THAT COMES, WE HAVE TO MAKE THE DECISION. ARE WE GOING TO LEAVE THESE UP? ARE WE GOING TO TAKE THEM DOWN? THEY ARE POWDER COATED MATERIAL. ONE IS THE POWDER COATED MATERIAL, WE KNOW THAT ONCE THAT'S SCRATCHED AND IT SCRATCHES EASY, IS THAT'S THE MINUTE THEY START RUSTING. >> WHAT'S THAT? >> IT'S THE COLOR. THE ACTUAL STRUCTURE ITSELF. >> OH. >> THE STRUCTURE ITSELF IS NOT ALUMINUM BECAUSE ALUMINUM IS NOT STRONG ENOUGH. SO IT'S STEEL, IT HAS TO BE STEEL, BUT IT'S POWDER COATED. THE POWDER COATING HELPS IT FROM NOT RUSTING. BUT THE MINUTE THAT THAT STUFF SCRATCHES IS THE MINUTE THAT THAT STUFF STARTS RUSTING. SO I WOULD AGREE THAT WE HAVE TO LOOK AT THAT IN THE VERY NEAR FUTURE. >> OKAY. THANKS. >> PLAYGROUND PIECES. THERE ARE A FEW PLAYGROUND PIECES THAT WE ARE GETTING REPAIRED. ACTUALLY TWO AT CENTRAL PARK. THE BIG ROPE SWING, WE ARE ORDERING THAT THIS WEEK. THAT'S GOING TO BE REPLACED. THEN THERE'S ALSO A SPINNER ITEM THAT WE DID HAVE TO REMOVE THIS WEEKEND AS WELL. ACTUALLY, WE REMOVED IT YESTERDAY. THAT WILL BE A QUICK FIX AND WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO GET THAT BACK IN QUICKLY. >> SCOTT. >> YES. >> SINCE THE INCEPTION OF TEDDY BEAR PARK AND WE PUT IN ALL THIS NEW EQUIPMENT, WHAT IS GENERALLY THE COST FOR KEEPING THE MAINTENANCE UP ON THAT PARK TODAY? >> I CAN'T GIVE YOU AN EXACT NUMBER. WHAT I CAN TELL YOU IS THAT PLAYGROUND EQUIPMENT IS EXTREMELY EXPENSIVE. >> CORRECT. >> EXTREMELY EXPENSIVE. I THINK AS WE MOVE FORWARD, WE HAVE TO LOOK AT WHAT TYPE OF PLAYGROUND MATERIAL WE'RE PURCHASING, LOOK AT STUFF THAT WON'T RUST. ALL THOSE THINGS NEED TO BE TAKEN INTO CONSIDERATION. THE ROPE SWING, FOR EXAMPLE. [00:30:01] TO GET JUST THE ROPE SWING IS $6,000. >> WOW. >> STUFF IS REALLY EXPENSIVE. GO AHEAD. >> MAYBE WE SHOULD HAVE THE GIANT 10-FOOT SLIDES WE HAD WHEN WE WERE GROWING UP THAT WAS ON FIRE AS YOU WENT DOWN EVERY SOLID MINUTE. >> WHERE I'M GOING WITH THIS IS OUR THOUGHT PROCESS GOING FORWARD WITH EQUIPMENT HAS TO BE LOOKED AT LONG TERM. WHEN WE GOT TO TEDDY BEAR PARK, WE GOT A GIFT TO REDO THE PARK. BUT IT'S COSTING US X AMOUNT EVERY YEAR AND WE DON'T REALLY KNOW HOW MUCH MONEY WE GOT TO PUT IN THE BUDGET FOR REPLACEMENT OR FIXING THIS PARK AND KEEPING IT UP TO THE STANDARDS. >> OUR GOAL MOVING INTO THE FUTURE IS TO MAKE SURE, AND THIS IS ALWAYS A FINE LINE, BUT MAKING SURE THAT WE HAVE ENOUGH STAFF WHERE WE ARE PUSHING THE LONGEVITY OF OUR EQUIPMENT FURTHER INTO THE FUTURE. MEANING EVERY WINTER, WE GO AROUND AND WE SAND AND WE PAINT PLAYGROUNDS. WE ARE TRYING TO MOVE FORWARD AND BUILD THAT INTO OUR PLANS AS WE GO. BECAUSE IF WE DON'T DO THAT, THEN LIKE THE SHADE STRUCTURE AT MAY BEACH, IT'S RUSTED. BUT THAT GOES BACK TO ALSO MAKING SURE THAT WHEN WE PURCHASE THESE ITEMS THAT WE'RE PURCHASING THE RIGHT MATERIAL FOR A COMMUNITY THAT WE LIVE RIGHT NEXT TO THE BEACH. >> I FEEL LIKE ANYTHING THAT'S OUTDOORS. I NO LONGER BUY A REALLY NICE GRILL. I BUY LIKE A $400 GRILL THAT'S JUST GOING TO RUST OUT BECAUSE YOU JUST FIGURE THAT THERE'S GOING TO BE THAT WEAR AND TEAR. I GUESS THE ONE GOOD THING IS THAT WE GET SO MUCH ACTIVITY AT TEDDY BEAR PARK. YOU GUYS SAID IT WAS EVEN OVERCROWDED ALREADY. AT LEAST THE THINGS ARE GETTING USED, BUT REALLY WHAT IS THEIR USEFUL LIFE? MAYBE WE HAVE TO LOOK MORE CRITICALLY AT HOW LONG SOMETHING'S GOING TO LAST BEFORE YOU JUST CHUCK IT AND GET SOMETHING ELSE. >> THE NEXT COUPLE PIECES OF PLAYGROUND EQUIPMENT THAT ARE COMING DOWN THE PIPE ARE PROBABLY SUNRISE PARK AND MAINE BEACH. THOSE ARE THE NEXT PIECES PROBABLY THAT ARE GOING TO BE AT THE FOREFRONT. >> HAS THE MAINE BEACH ONE BEEN INCLUDED OR CONSIDERED IN THE BEACH HARMONIZATION STUFF? >> THAT'S ANOTHER GREAT QUESTION IS, WHEN IS THAT GOING TO HAPPEN AND DOES OURS NEED TO BE REPLACED BEFORE THAT HAPPENS? >> YEAH, I WOULD THINK THAT THAT REALLY NEEDS TO BE A COORDINATED EFFORT SO WE'RE NOT THROWING GOOD MONEY AFTER BAD. >> ARE THEY WILLING TO DO ANYTHING EARLIER? IF THERE'S SOMETHING AT MAINE BEACH THAT NEEDS TO BE DONE EARLIER THAN THAT, IT'S LIKE. I MEAN, I KNOW I GET IT ALL. >> AT THE MEETING, THEY SAID THAT THAT SEASIDE WAS THEIR PRIORITY RIGHT NOW. >> MAYBE WE COULD DO LIKE A WORKSHOP TO MAYBE LOOK AT SOME OF THE THINGS PREEMPTIVELY THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO DO. MAYBE THEN WHAT IT IS PARKS AND REC CAN OFFER TO THE COUNTY PARKS AND REC OR WHOEVER. I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT COMMUNICATION STRUCTURE WOULD LOOK LIKE ON THE COUNTY SIDE. BUT MAYBE WE HAVE SOME PRELIMINARY IDEAS ABOUT WHAT WE COULD PROACTIVELY TAKE TO THEM, WHAT THIS LOOKS LIKE, WHAT OUR NEEDS ARE FOR THE TIMING OF SOMETHING SO THAT WE CAN TRY TO PREEMPTIVELY BE ON THEIR RADAR SO THAT WHEN WE DO HAVE TO MAKE A DECISION, WE ARE MAKING A DECISION WITH A COHESIVE PLAN IN MIND. >> YES, TOTALLY AGREE WITH THAT. THE CITY WILL BE RESPONSIBLE FOR A PORTION OF THAT FUNDING AS WELL. WE COULD BUILD INTO POSSIBLY. THIS IS WE COULD BUILD THAT INTO WHAT WE'RE SPENDING OUR MONEY ON IF SOMETHING DOES NEED TO BE REPLACED AT THIS POINT. >> THE BEACH ACCESSES. THIS IS OUR SECOND TIME THROUGH. THE FIRST OF EVERY MONTH. ONCE AGAIN, THESE ITEMS ARE NOT ON THE LIST. IT'S A COUPLE OF THINGS THAT I ADDED. THE SECOND TIME THROUGH OUR BEACH ACCESS CLEANING ROTATION. WE DO THIS THE FIRST OF EVERY MONTH NOW MOVING FORWARD THROUGH THE SUMMER. HOPEFULLY, THE INDIVIDUALS THAT ARE USING OUR BEACH ACCESSES NOTICE THE BEAUTIFICATION OF THEM, NOT ONLY THE STRUCTURES AND MAKING SURE ALL THE SAND IS TAKEN OFF, BUT JUST THE PARKING LOT IN GENERAL. STUFF HAS BEEN OVERGROWN, [00:35:02] SO WE ARE GOING THROUGH THAT. WE HAVE HAD SOME PHONE CALLS THANKING US FOR THAT AND NOTICING IT. ONCE AGAIN, OUR PARKS DEPARTMENT IS DOING REALLY GOOD JOB. FIELD PREPPING. WE ARE DOING FIELD PREPPING AT BABE RUTH, ELM STREET LITTLE LEAGUE, AND ALSO A QUICK UPDATE. WE BELIEVE THAT THE SANSFERS AT THE HICKORY STREET FIELD ARE MUCH BETTER RIGHT NOW, AND WILL CONTINUE TO GET BETTER. ALSO, A QUICK UPDATE, I BELIEVE THAT SOME PEOPLE HAVE NOTICED THIS AS WELL. WE DID A CLEANOUT OF THE AREA AT HICKORY STREET PARK ON THE WEST SIDE, AND WE'RE ALSO DOING SOMETHING VERY SIMILAR AT SUNRISE. WE'RE NOT CUTTING DOWN ANY TREES, WE'RE JUST CLEARING UP THE VEGETATION TO MAKE IT LOOK A LITTLE BETTER. >> SCOTT, I SAID IT TO YOU EARLIER, BUT I WOULD LIKE TO PUBLICLY THANK YOUR TEAM. THESE GUYS HAVE BEEN OUT THERE. MY NEIGHBORS HAVE BEEN STOPPING ME IN THE STREET TO SAY, THANK YOU FOR THAT CLEANUP. THE FENCE REPAIR IS NICE. IT LOOKS VERY GOOD OVER THERE. WE'RE LOOKING FORWARD TO THE BATHROOMS, AND I JUST WANTED TO THANK YOU GUYS FOR ALL OF THAT. >> I THINK THE PARKS CREW DID A GREAT JOB. >> THEY DID. >> THEY DID, YEAH. >> THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU FOR NOTICING. NOW ON YOUR SECOND SHEET, UPCOMING SPECIAL EVENTS. THE MONETORY CHILI COOK OFF IS DONE, BUT MOVING FORWARD FROM THERE IS THE MARCH 7. THE MAINE BEACH GREENSPACE IS THE CLASSIC MOTORSPORT KICKOFF. THERE IS A CHARITY CONCERT AT THE FERNANDINA BEACH AIRPORT COMING UP AND THEN THE CAR SHOW OBVIOUSLY AT THE RITZ CARLTON, AND THEN WE HAVE THE CAR SHOW DOWN HERE AS WELL ON CENTER STREET. THEN COMMISSION ITEMS THAT ARE GOING TO BE COMING FORWARD. THE MASTER FEE SCHEDULE, NORMALLY THAT COMES UP RIGHT BEFORE OUR FISCAL YEAR, SO WE SET FEES. THERE HAS BEEN A FEW DEPARTMENTS THAT HAVE ASKED TO OPEN THAT UP, SO WE ALSO WENT INTO THERE. THERE'S TWO FEES THAT WE ARE LOOKING AT. WE ARE GOING TO ADD A MEETING FEE. THERE ARE A LOT OF OUR FEES, LIKE THERE WERE FOUR-HOUR PERIODS, AND INDIVIDUALS OR ORGANIZATIONS THAT WANTED TO GET TOGETHER TO HAVE A MEETING, IT JUST WASN'T FEASIBLE TO PAY THAT AMOUNT OF MONEY. WE WERE CONTACTED AND WE TOOK A LOOK AT IT AND WE THOUGHT THIS WAS A REASONABLE FEE. WE ARE GOING TO INSERT THAT INTO THE FEE SCHEDULE A 25-HOUR MAXIMUM OF TWO HOURS FOR A MEETING FEE. >> HOW MUCH IS THE MEETING FEE? >> TWENTY FIVE DOLLARS AN HOUR. >> SORRY. >> YOU COULD PAY FOR TWO HOURS, 50 BUCKS. >> GOT IT. THAT'S FOR ANY? >> YEAH, ANY OF OUR FACILITIES. ANY RENTAL ROOMS THAT WE HAVE. >> LIKE PAC OR? >> PAC, MLK, ATLANTIC. >> GOOD. THANK YOU. I'M NOT COMPLAINING AT THE COST OF IT BECAUSE I THINK THE PRICE IS REALLY GOOD. I KNOW A LOT OF PEOPLE HAVING MEETINGS LIKE THAT, BUT DOES THAT COVER THE COST OF THE FACILITY? >> WE ARE PUTTING MONDAY THROUGH FRIDAY FROM 8:00 AM TO 8:00 PM, AND THEN SATURDAY FROM 8:00 TO 4:00. IT'S NOT GOING TO COMPLETELY COVER THE COST. >> AGAIN, I'M JUST WONDERING TOO. IS THERE A PRIORITY LEVEL? IF YOU JUST NEED TWO HOURS FOR A MEETING, BUT SOMEBODY NEEDS TO BOOK IT FOR A WHOLE DAY, IS IT JUST FIRST COME FIRST SERVE LIKE THAT? >> IF THEY FALL INTO THEN A WHOLE DAY, THEY WOULD JUST FALL INTO OUR NORMAL RATES. THIS IS MORE OF A MEETING FOR NONPROFIT ORGANIZATIONS THAT WANT TO HAVE A MEETING AT THE MARTIN LUTHER KING CENTER, WANT TO HAVE A MEETING AT PAC. >> THANK YOU FOR DOING THAT BECAUSE I MYSELF HAVE ENCOUNTERED THAT WHERE I SPENT $800 WITHOUT A SPACE. >> REMEMBER, THE SPECIAL EVENT APPLICATION PROCESS HAS NOT GONE TO THE CITY COMMISSION YET. IT'S NOT SCHEDULED, OBVIOUSLY IN BETWEEN CITY ATTORNEYS AND MAKING SURE THAT WE HAVE THAT PREPARED. WHEN IT DOES GO, EVERYTHING IS SET. BUT WE ARE GOING TO PUT AS WE HAD SAID PREVIOUSLY AT THAT, IT WAS GOING TO BE A $25 APPLICATION FEE FOR SPECIAL EVENTS. WE WILL NOT BE CHARGING THAT FEE UNTIL THAT GOES TO THE COMMISSION FOR THEIR APPROVAL. [00:40:06] IF THEY DO NOT APPROVE THAT APPLICATION PROCESS, WE WILL NOT CHARGE THAT FEE. >> WHERE ARE WE WITH THE POOL BANNERS IN REGARDS TO THAT PACKET? >> I THINK THAT HASN'T BEEN DETERMINED YET. I DO KNOW AT THIS POINT THOUGH THAT WHEN THAT DOES GO FORWARD, IT WILL BE SAID THAT THE PARKS AND RECREATION ADVISORY COMMITTEE DID NOT SUPPORT THAT. AS OF RIGHT NOW, IT'S AT A STANDSTILL. BUT I WILL ENSURE THAT WHEN THAT DOES GO TO THE COMMISSION, YOU GUYS WILL BE AWARE OF IT. >> THANK YOU. >> THEN ON THE HORIZON. MY PLAN IS IN THE NEXT FEW MONTHS, MARCH, APRIL, MAY, WE ARE GOING TO BE BRINGING QUITE A FEW IMPORTANT ITEMS TO YOU. THERE'S A FEW THINGS LISTED. I'LL JUST GO OFF. BUT MY GOAL IS I WANT TO SHOW YOU WHERE WE ARE WITH OUR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT, MONEY, OUR EXPANSION, AND WHAT WE HAVE AND WHAT IS ALREADY FUNDED. THAT'S GOING TO GIVE YOU A BETTER UNDERSTANDING OF THE BIG PICTURE, WHAT WE CAN AFFORD AND WHAT WHAT WE CAN'T. I WILL START WITH THAT. BUT THEN IF YOU LOOK UP HERE, JUST READING THESE WATERFRONT PLAY FEATURE, THE SPECIAL EVENT PROCESS APPLICATION, PUBLIC ART APPLICATION, COLUMBARIUM, PECK FIELD FISCAL YEAR '26 BUDGET. A QUICK UPDATE ON PECK FIELD. LAST MEETING, WE HAD SOME INDIVIDUALS FROM THE PUBLIC HAD COME HERE AND SPOKE ABOUT THE TRACK, AND THEY'RE NOT VERY HAPPY NECESSARILY WITH THE TRACK. I WILL BE MEETING WITH OUR STREET SUPERINTENDENT. I DID GO OVER THERE, TOOK A LOOK AT IT. I DO UNDERSTAND WHERE THEY'RE COMING FROM. WHEN THE PAVING CONTRACTOR AND THE STREET SUPERINTENDENT GET TOGETHER, THEY'RE GOING TO MEET ME OVER THERE TO REVIEW IT. THE MUCH LARGER PICTURE OF PECK FIELD THAT'S I THINK POSSIBLY A DISCUSSION IN THE FUTURE HERE, MAYBE THIS YEAR. IT WAS ALWAYS MY UNDERSTANDING, AND THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE WILL HAVE TO DISCUSS IS WHATEVER WE DO WITH PECK FIELD, WE NEED TO MAKE SURE IT'S VETTED THROUGHOUT OUR ENTIRE COMMUNITY. BUT I DID REACH OUT TO THEM ABOUT THE ASPHALT TRACK. >> WHAT'S PRELIMINARY ISSUE WITH THAT? WAS IT NOT THE RIGHT MATERIAL? DID WE DO THAT? WAS THAT OUR STREETS TEAM THAT DID THAT? >> THE STREETS DEPARTMENT HAS A PAVING CONTRACT. THE CONTRACTOR ACTUALLY DID THE PAVING. THE CITY DID DO SOME WORK. WE DID THE EXCAVATION PART AND THE LIME ROCK INSTALLATION FOR UNDERNEATH. THE CONTRACTOR CAME AND DID THE ASPHALT WORK. >> WE HAVEN'T DETERMINED WHAT THE PROBLEM IS? >> WE'RE GOING TO MEET AND WE'RE GOING TO ACTUALLY SEE WHAT THE ASPHALT COMPANY SAYS IF THERE'S ANYTHING THAT THEY CAN DO. I'M NOT EXACTLY SURE. ME LOOKING AT IT, THERE'S GRASS GROWING THROUGH IT. CAN WE ADDRESS THAT? SECONDLY, THERE'S A LITTLE WAVE TO IT. >> I'M DEFINITELY INTERESTED IN UNDERSTANDING WHAT IS INCORRECT ABOUT IT ONLY BECAUSE GOING FORWARD, I THINK THERE'S MAYBE SOME OPPORTUNITIES TO DO MORE PROJECTS LIKE THAT, BUT NOT IF WE CAN'T GET IT RIGHT. >> MY GOAL IS OBVIOUSLY TO MEET WITH THEM IN THE VERY NEAR FUTURE AND SEE WHAT THAT CONTRACTOR SAYS. >> THANK YOU. >> I WILL KEEP YOU ALL POSTED ON THAT. WE TALKED ABOUT THE SKATE PARK. IN THE MONTH OF MARCH, I WILL BE BRINGING THE SKATE PARK CONCEPTUAL PLAN BACK TO YOU. THEN, KATIE, IF YOU COULD, COULD YOU PLEASE PUT UP THE WATER FRONT. >> IS IT? [LAUGHTER] >> MAYBE JUST ZOOM IN IF YOU CAN. >> ZOOM IN? >> WHATEVER, MAKE IT LOOK GOOD. [00:45:01] [LAUGHTER] WE DISCUSSED THIS A LITTLE BIT AT OUR LAST MEETING. THIS AREA RIGHT HERE. THIS IS A 27-FOOT ON THE INSIDE OF THIS STANDING WALL OR SITTING WALL, I SHOULD SAY. INSIDE OF THEIRS IS 27 FEET, JUST ON THE OUTSIDE IT'S MARKED AT 29 FEET. RIGHT NOW WITH THE EXISTING THE EXISTING PLAN IS TO HAVE WHAT WE WOULD CALL A GLOBAL MOTION PLAYGROUND PIECE. AT THE LAST COMMISSION, THEY APPROVED THE PLAN. THERE WAS SOME CONCERNS. IT'S COMING BACK TO US TO HAVE THE DISCUSSION OF WHAT CAN GO IN THERE. THERE'S TWO PIECES THAT WE HAVE TO THAT I'M LOOKING AT IS A PLAY FEATURE THAT CAN GO IN THERE AND WE HAVE THAT DISCUSSION. THEN I HAVE HEARD OTHER PEOPLE DISCUSS CAN THAT AREA BE EXPANDED? I THINK WE HAVE TO LOOK AT WHAT CAN GO IN THERE AND THE COMMUNITY AND PAC, WHAT THEY WOULD RECOMMEND. I HAVE REACHED OUT TO A FEW COMPANIES ALREADY TO LOOK AT SOME PIECES. TO FIT SOMETHING IN THAT AREA HAS TO BE SOMETHING VERY SIMILAR TO THE GLOBAL MOTION OR AN ITEM MUCH SMALLER THAN EGAN'S CREEK PARK, A DOME THAT IS CLIMBING. THAT WOULD BE THE FEATURE THAT WOULD BE SITTING INSIDE THAT AREA. I WILL HAVE SOME IDEAS. >> THE SPACE TO THE SIDE OF IT ON THE SIDE WHERE YOU'RE SITTING HERE, IS THAT SUPPOSED TO JUST BE GRASS RIGHT NOW? >> RIGHT HERE TO THE NORTH, I BELIEVE. THERE'S A COUPLE OF PEOPLE THAT ARE SITTING IN THIS MEETING THAT COULD ANSWER THAT, BUT YES, I BELIEVE THAT THAT IS A GRASSY AREA. >> I KNOW YOU'D HAVE TO GET APPROVAL, BUT IT'S NOT LIKE THERE WAS SOMETHING ELSE PLANED RIGHT THERE. IF YOU TRIED TO MAKE IT A LITTLE MORE KIDNEY BEAN SHAPED DISH OR SOMETHING TO GET A LITTLE BIT MORE SPACE THAT WAY? >> JUST LOOKING AESTHETICALLY, IT SEEMS TO ME LIKE JUST FROM A DESIGN STANDPOINT, THE REPETITION OF THE CIRCLES IS PART OF THE OVERALL DESIGN. YOU COULD MAKE A LITTLE MORE. >> YOU'RE SAYING THAT THAT'S A KNEE WALL AROUND THERE. YOU COULD SIT AND WATCH YOUR KIDS ON THE PLAY STRUCTURE? >> YEAH, RIGHT AROUND HERE. >> THEY WOULD BE CONTAINED IN THAT AREA AND THEN THERE'S GRASS AROUND. >> A LITTLE BIT MORE OVAL, YOU COULD GAIN SOME SPACE IN THAT GRASS AREA TO TO SEE IF SOMETHING SLIGHTLY BIGGER WOULD FIT. I KNOW YOU'D HAVE TO GET THAT APPROVED. >> THE IDEA WILL BE TO WE WILL BE PRESENTING THIS AT OUR NEXT MONTH'S MEETING. ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS OR THOUGHTS AT IT RIGHT NOW? OBVIOUSLY, WE WOULD LIKE TO BE PREPARED. THERE'S A COUPLE OF THINGS THAT WE HAVE TO THINK ABOUT. I WOULD OBVIOUSLY HAVE TO WORK WITH MR. GLISSON BECAUSE IT WOULD PROBABLY BE A CHANGE ORDER TO THE EXISTING. THEN RIGHT NOW, THE CONTINGENCY AMOUNT THAT WAS PUT IN, WHICH IS SET ASIDE FOR A PLAY FEATURE IS, I BELIEVE, $115,000. IF IT WERE TO COME WHERE IT WOULD BE EXPANDED, WE WOULD HAVE TO LOOK AT HOW WE'RE GOING TO PAY ADDITIONALLY FOR THAT AS WELL. >> I KNOW I'M GOING TO GET A LOT OF IRE FOR THIS, BUT IF IT WERE UP TO ME PERSONALLY, TO HAVE A PLAY STRUCTURE DOWN THERE OR NOT, I PERSONALLY WOULD NOT CARE EITHER WAY. I WOULDN'T NECESSARILY BE ADVOCATING FOR IT, BUT I UNDERSTAND WHY PEOPLE ARE ADVOCATING FOR IT. I DO THINK THAT THERE'S A DESIRE FOR IT TO BE DOWN THERE. I DON'T KNOW THAT I WOULD SUPPORT EXPANDING IT TO BE MORE. I HOPE WHAT WE'RE GOING TO BE SEEING DOWN THERE IS A PLACE. HOW NOW THAT WE'RE LIKE CLOCKING OFF ROADS AND PUTTING UP EVENT SPACE AND ALL OF THAT STUFF NOW CLOSING UP PARKING LOTS. TO ME, THAT'S A PLACE WHERE WE COULD DO THAT ON [00:50:01] A REGULAR BASIS WITHOUT HAVING TO BLOCK THE STREETS, AND IT REALLY IS MORE FOR CONCERTS OR GATHERING THINGS AND NOT JUST PLAY SPACE. THAT'S MY OWN PERSONAL. >> I REALLY SUPPORT THE IDEA OF DOING SOMETHING NAUTICAL THEMED. I'VE TALKED TO SEVERAL OF THE COMMISSIONERS ABOUT IT. I'VE TALKED TO SCOTT ABOUT IT. I KNOW THERE'S BEEN DISCUSSIONS ABOUT IT ON FACEBOOK, SOME BOAT TYPE OF PLAY FEATURE. I KNOW THAT WILL NOT FIT IN THAT SPACE, BUT I THINK IT WOULD BE SOME FEATURE THERE. THERE'S A SHIRT BOAT OR A PIRE BOAT, WHATEVER IT IS. I THINK YOU COULD FIND SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE IN THE CORRECT MATERIALS FOR THE SPACE. I'D LIKE TO HAVE ANYTHING DOWN THERE OBVIOUSLY, BUT I DON'T KNOW THAT I SEE JUST A CLIMBING THING THAT SMALL. A BEING SUFFICIENT FOR THE NUMBER OF KIDS, I THINK YOU COULD GET DOWN THERE, AND IT DOESN'T REALLY INCLUDE YOUR SMALLER KIDS. WE ALREADY HAVE THAT RIGHT DOWN THE ROAD AT EGAN'S CREEK PARK, SOMETHING MAYBE THAT WE DON'T ALREADY HAVE IN THE COMMUNITY. >> I THINK WOULD BE COOL. I KNOW THAT WOULD TAKE UP MORE SPACE, BUT I'D RATHER HAVE SOMETHING THAT I THINK IS DIFFERENT AND PEOPLE ARE GOING TO BE EXCITED ABOUT THAN JUST STICKING SOMETHING THERE TO SAY WE HAVE SOMETHING. >> I LIKE THE IDEA OF THE BOAT. >> I'VE TALKED TO SEVERAL OF THE COMMISSIONERS AND SCOTT AND SENT A LOT OF PICTURES TO PEOPLE BECAUSE I THINK IT COULD BE REALLY COOL. >> IF THEY HAD THAT BOAT AT TIMOTHY? >> YES. >> TIM HAD AT ONE POINT, LIKE IT WAS MORE OF A PIRATE SHIP, BUT MAYBE SOMETHING. >> I GAVE SCOTT A PICTURE OF A SHIPBOAT ONE TODAY THAT SOMEBODY DROPPED OFF ON MY FRONT PORCH THIS. [LAUGHTER] I THINK THERE IS OTHER IF I RECALL CORRECTLY, MAYBE JEREMIAH COULD SAY, THOSE OTHER CIRCLES ARE POSSIBILITIES FOR ART INSTALLATION. [OVERLAPPING] >> I WAS LIKE IF YOU DID A BOAT, YOU COULD MAYBE SOMEHOW GET SOME LIKE THE EIGHT FLAGS, LIKE PLAQUES OR THINGS FOR THE BOAT OR LIKE IN THAT AREA THAT WOULD BE ART. WHEN I TALKED TO COMMISSIONER TUTEN AND I WAS LIKE, YOU COULD EVEN DO LIKE A SIGN THAT TALKS ABOUT IT FOR THE HISTORY OF THE AREA. >> I BELIEVE THERE'S THREE AREAS. THIS RIGHT HERE IS CALLING FOR A PUBLIC ART CIRCLE RIGHT HERE. THEN RIGHT HERE IS ALSO CALLING FOR A RAISED CENTER PLANTER. THEN RIGHT HERE IS CALLING FOR, I BELIEVE, LIKE A SHRIMPING PIECE OF ARTWORK. >> YOU DID A BOAT AND HAD THE SHRIMPING RIGHT THERE. THAT WAS REALLY LIKE [OVERLAPPING] >> WHAT IF INSTEAD OF WHERE IT'S THE CIRCLE WHERE IT [NOISE] DOES BETTER FOR A PIECE, THAT MAYBE COULD THAT JUST INSTEAD OF LIKE BEING CONCRETE OR WHATEVER HARDSCAPING THAT IS, MAYBE JUST BE GRASSY WITH YOUR STRUCTURE ON IT? >> I DON'T KNOW. I DON'T THINK ANYTHING'S BEEN DECIDED ON WHAT THE MATERIAL UNDERNEATH THIS. I KNOW YOU CAN TELL. [INAUDIBLE] [OVERLAPPING] >> I'M SORRY ON THIS. ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT THE MATERIAL RIGHT HERE? >> YEAH. >> THE MORE I THINK ABOUT THIS, I THINK WE DO NEED TO REALLY LOOK AT POOR AND PLAY, AND I KNOW THAT THAT'S MORE EXPENSIVE. BUT THE MULCH AND IS IT GOING TO GO ALL OVER THE PARK? THOSE ARE STUFF THAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION AS WE GO THROUGH THAT. >> WHAT IS POOR AND PLAY? >> IT'S JUST THE RUBBER SURFACE PARTIAL PARK. >> NOT THE RUBBER MULCH, BUT LIKE MLK, LIKE THE HARDER RUBBER. >> IT'S BEEN A LONG TIME SINCE I'VE BEEN NULLIFIED [LAUGHTER]. >> IT'S LIKE THE RUBBERY TRACK. IT'S RUBBER. >> IF YOU FALL ON IT. >> IT'S SOFT. YEAH. [OVERLAPPING] IT'S THE TEDDY BEAR PARK. >> IT'S A SOLID. YEAH. I PUT IT DOWN LIKE CONCRETE AND THEN IT'S NOT COVERED. >> IT'S LIKE RUBBER THAT IS PUT OVER A CONCRETE. >> IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT HAS TO BE BLOWN OR PICKED OUT OR CLEANED OUT OR. >> WE BLOW IT TO GET THE LEAVES OFF. >> BECAUSE I MEAN, I'M THINKING DOWN THERE TOO, LIKE, WHATEVER WE PUT DOWN THERE AGAIN. >> WHATEVER HE SAYS. >> SO THE PLAN IS TO BRING SOME OPTIONS, BRING SOME THOUGHTS, AND THEN WE ARE GOING TO ASK RECOMMENDATIONS ON HOW PRAC WHAT THE RECOMMENDATION FROM PRAC. I BELIEVE LISA'S HERE AND ERIC BARTELT AND THEY WILL ALSO GIVE A HISTORICAL BACKGROUND OF IT AND HOW IT CAME TO BE, THIS IS WHAT IT WAS. BUT I HAVE REACHED OUT TO A COUPLE OF PLAYGROUND AND THAT WAS THE FIRST THING WAS, THIS IS A SMALL AREA. ONE OF THE SHRIMP BOATS THAT SOMEBODY HAD DISCUSSED THAT LOOKED LIKE MORE OF A TRADITIONAL PLAYGROUND IS THEY SHOWED A FOOTPRINT OF IT AND WHERE IT WOULD HAVE TO SIT. [00:55:05] BUT MAYBE WE COULD TAKE A LOOK AT THAT AND COULD YOU DOWNSIZE IT AND FIT IT IN THERE, AND WE WILL GO THROUGH THAT AT OUR NEXT MEETING. BUT THAT WILL BE AN ITEM THAT WE WILL BE ASKING FOR A RECOMMENDATION FROM YOU TO MOVE FORWARD TO THE CITY COMMISSION. >> I THINK JENNY CAN BUT CAN YOU SEND US THE PICTURE THE EXAMPLE THAT YOU [OVERLAPPING] >> ABSOLUTELY. >> WELL, I CAN SEND YOU MORE THAT I FOUND ONLINE, BUT THE ONE I DON'T KNOW IF I WANT. >> YES, I WILL. >> THANK YOU. >> I'D LIKE TO [INAUDIBLE]. >> SOMEONE LITERALLY DROPPED HIM OFF ON MY BOOK. [LAUGHTER] >> OBVIOUSLY WE'RE STARTING THE BUDGET PROCESS. THE FIRST THING IN THE BUDGET PROCESS, THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN, AND THAT INCLUDES IMPACT FEES. IT INCLUDES OUR 300-CAPITAL ACCOUNT. THE 310 EXPANSION ACCOUNT IS PART OF THAT. THOSE ARE THE BIG TICKET ITEMS, AND THAT'S GOING TO BE THE KICKOFF TO OUR BUDGET PLANNING. THE ULTIMATE GOAL IS TO DEVELOP A FIVE-YEAR PLAN THAT IS ACHIEVABLE FOR PARKS AND RECREATION, TO INCLUDE THE PARKS, TO INCLUDE THE REC CENTERS, THE PECK CENTER. WE HAVE A LOT UNDER OUR PLATE. >> FOR THE IMPACT FEES THAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE, AND I KNOW WE'VE GOT A LOT OF PROJECTS THAT ARE GOING TO EAT THOSE UP, BUT ARE THERE IMPACT FEE PROJECTIONS THAT COME OUT FOR US TO ANTICIPATE, OR IS THAT JUST SOMETHING WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT IS UNTIL THEY'RE IN OUR BUCKET? >> THE IMPACT FEE PROJECTIONS, SO WORKING WITH FINANCE AS WELL AS I CAN'T REMEMBER THE EXACT AMOUNT OFF TOP OF MY HEAD OF THIS PAST YEAR, BUT AS AROUND $500,000, THE IDEA OR THE THOUGHT PROCESS IS THAT AS THE CITY GETS BUILT OUT, THAT THOSE NUMBERS ARE PROJECTING TO GO LOWER. POSSIBLY $400,000. MAYBE THIS WILL BE A NUMBER THAT WE COULD POSSIBLY COLLECT THIS EXISTING YEAR. BUT THE NUMBERS ARE PROJECTING TO GO DOWN. THAT'S WHERE WE'RE AT. IN THE NEXT FEW MONTHS, WE ARE GOING TO BE BRINGING STUFF TO YOU THAT WE WILL BE ASKING FOR RECOMMENDATIONS. >> SCOTT, WHERE DO WE STAND WITH YBOR RIGHT NOW IN THE SOCCER COMPLEX? >> ONE OF THE MAJOR HURDLES THAT WE'RE CURRENTLY WORKING THROUGH IS THE GRANT GRANT PROCESS. THERE WAS GRANTS THAT WERE GIVEN TO US MANY YEARS AGO, AND IT'S EITHER THOSE HAVE TO BE PAID BACK OR WE HAVE TO SHOW THAT WE HAVE OTHER RECREATIONAL AMENITIES THAT WE HAVE SO WE CAN BASICALLY NOT PAY THOSE GRANTS BACK. ONCE THAT GETS DETERMINED, AND THEN WE REALLY CAN HIT THE FLOOR RUNNING. BUT TO GO ALONG WITH THAT IS WE HAVE TO REALLY THINK ON HOW ALL THIS FALLS IS YOU HAVE YBOR ALVAREZ, YOU HAVE THE ELM STREET LITTLE LEAGUE, AND THOSE SOFTBALL FIELDS. WE NEED TO ENSURE THAT IT FALLS CORRECTLY. AS WE KNOW, FIELDS ARE GOING AWAY, SO WE NEED TO WORK AND DO OUR BEST TO MAKE SURE EVERYONE IS ACCOUNTED FOR AND BASICALLY IS LOOKING AT THAT AND IF THOSE FIELDS ARE GOING AWAY, IS IT BEST TO REMODEL MLK FIELDS FIRST WHILE THEY HAVE A PLACE TO PLAY AT YBOR? WE NEED TO SCHEDULE ALL THAT STUFF APPROPRIATELY AND LOOK AT THAT. IT'S JUST LIKE THE FIRE STATION. THE FIRE STATION JUST OPENED, SO OCEAN RESCUE NOW MOVES THE FIRE STATION 2. NOW WE HAVE THE ADDITIONAL SPACE AT MLK. WE'RE WORKING THROUGH ALL OF THAT. >> WE DON'T ANTICIPATE ANYTHING STARTING WITH YBOR AS FAR AS THE SOCCER COMPLEX IN 25. >> I WOULD HAVE TO SAY THE ANSWER TO THAT IS NO. >> DOES THESE GRANTS GO AWAY IN 25? >> THESE GRANTS WERE GIVEN TO US SO WE'RE [NOISE] WORKING THROUGH THE PROCESS WHERE WE DON'T HAVE TO PAY THE MONEY BACK. DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? >> WE WOULDN'T HAVE TO PAY THEM BACK IF WE REPLACED THEM SOMEPLACE ELSE, BUT [OVERLAPPING]. [01:00:02] >> THAT IS CORRECT. >> YOU ARE SAYING NOW, WE WILL HAVE A NET LOSS THAT WOULD NOT MEET THE REQUIREMENT OF THE GRANT? >> WE'RE TRYING TO PROVIDE INFORMATION TO THAT WHOLE GRANT PROCESS TO MAKE IT WE POSSIBLY DON'T HAVE TO PAY THOSE BACK. >> THE LAST THING I HAVE IS ELM STREET. I TAKE IT WE'RE NO CLOSER TO GETTING A RENDITION OF WHAT ELM STREET IS GOING TO LOOK LIKE FOR THE FIELDS. THE LAST UPDATE I GOT IS THAT WE ARE ABOUT 40-50% COMPLETE. >> ONCE WE GET THAT, DO WE PROJECT IT FOR 25, OR DO WE LOOK AT 26 FOR ELM STREET NOW? >> YEAH. I THINK WE HAVE TO LOOK AT NEXT FISCAL YEAR. >> I JUST TRYING TO GET A PICTURE OF HOW MANY THINGS WE'RE PUSHING INTO 25 VERSUS 26, AND THAT MAKES SENSE BECAUSE IT'S ALREADY FEBRUARY AND WE'RE NO CLOSER THAN WE WERE BACK IN OCTOBER, IN ESSENCE, FOR ELM STREET AND THE PROJECTED FOR ELM STREET, WHAT WE CAN DO AND WHAT WE CAN'T DO. ON THE OTHER THING ABOUT CONSTRUCTION. DO WE LOOK AT PROJECTS NOW THAT JUST TAKE THE SKATEBOARD? THAT'S TWO YEARS OUT PLUS BEFORE WE COULD EVEN START THE SKATEBOARD, AND GETTING EVERYTHING APPROVED, OR DO YOU THINK WE GO 26 TO WE START THE SKATEBOARD? >> I'M NOT COMFORTABLE AT. I DON'T KNOW THE ANSWERS TO THAT. >> I KNOW YOU DO. THAT'S THESE ARE ALL UNKNOWNS RIGHT NOW THAT WE HAVE FOR THREE PROJECTS. >> THERE'S TWO BIG PROJECTS. THERE'S THE YBOR ALVAREZ SPORTS COMPLEX. THERE'S THE WATERFRONT. >> THOSE PROJECTS ARE FUNDED. >> THOSE PROJECTS ARE FUNDED, AND WE HAVE MONEY FROM THE COUNTY TO GO ALONG WITH THE CITY, 3.5 MILLION DOLLAR, 3.4 MILLION DOLLAR FOR YBOR ALVAREZ. WE HAVE SET ASIDE IN THIS BUDGET, $600,000 FOR MLK. >> CAN THAT ROLL OVER UNTIL NEXT YEAR? >> YES. THOSE ARE ALL IMPACT FEE MONEY THAT WILL ROLL OVER AND EXPECTED WE WILL CONTINUE TO GROW THAT ACCOUNT. LIKE I SAID $400,000, POSSIBLY THIS YEAR. THAT MONEY DOES NOT GO AWAY. >> ARE ANY OF THE KIDS GOING TO BE IMPACTED THIS YEAR? LIKE FOR BALL SEAT? I MEAN, I KNOW YBOR ALVAREZ NOW, IT'S WET A LOT. BUT TO THAT OBVIOUSLY IMPACTS SOCCER, BUT LIKE FOR THE BASEBALL FOR ELM STREET, ARE THEY SHORT FIELDS NOW? >> NO. >> SO THEY HAVE ENOUGH SO THEY WOULD HAVE THEIR TWO EXISTING FIELDS THAT ARE CHARLES ALBERT FIELD, AND THEN THEY HAVE THE PRACTICE FIELD. THEN HICKORY STREET OR NOT I'M SORRY. JOE VELARDI FIELD, AND THEN WE DO HAVE THE FIELDS OUT AT YBOR ALVAREZ. THE THREE FULL-SIZE SOFTBALL FIELDS. >> ESSENTIALLY, NOTHING IS CHANGING. >> NOTHING HAS CHANGED. [OVERLAPPING] >> WHAT WE HAVE NOW PRACTICE. [OVERLAPPING] >> WE HAVEN'T SLID BACK ANYWHERE. THAT IS CORRECT. >> THANKS, SCOTT. ARE THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS WITH THE UPDATE? THE ONE THING IS I KNOW TO SEND YOU THAT ONE THE DESIGN OF THE PICTURE THAT I SPOKE ABOUT FOR THE WATERFRONT. I'LL SEND THAT OUT. >> CAN YOU MAKE SURE TO SEND WHATEVER YOU'RE GOING TO PRINT BEFORE THE NEXT MEETING FOR US TO LOOK AT? >> ABSOLUTELY. >> ESPECIALLY IF IT IS A BIGGER FOOTPRINT ON. JUST SO WE HAVE TIME TO. >> ARE THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? >> LISA, WOULD YOU. >> WAS TALL. I'M LISA FINKELSTEIN, FOR THOSE THAT DON'T KNOW ME. I'M THE FORMER MAIN STREET DIRECTOR AND [01:05:03] CURRENT DOWNTOWN CITY MANAGER FOR THE CITY OF FERNANDINA BEACH. BUT WHEN I WAS WITH MAIN STREET, I ALSO WAS THE CHAIR OF THE CRA ADVISORY BOARD. THAT'S A LITTLE BIT OF HISTORY THAT'S IMPORTANT TO WHAT TOM ASKED ME TO TALK ABOUT. LAST WEEK AT THE CRA ADVISORY BOARD MEETING, WHICH I'M NOW A STAFF LIAISON FOR. WE HAD NOT ONLY OUR CRA BOARD, BUT WE ALSO HAD REPRESENTATIVES FROM THIS BOARD. TOM WAS THERE, FROM THE HDC, WHICH THEIR CHAIR IS ARLENE FILKOFF, AND THEN ALSO FROM THE MARINA ADVISORY BOARD, WHICH IS JOE BLANCHARD. THE REAL POINT OF HAVING EVERYBODY TOGETHER WAS TO TALK ABOUT THE PROCESSES THAT WE GO THROUGH FOR APPROVALS ON PROJECTS THAT TOUCH ON MORE THAN ONE BOARD. IT'S NOT JUST A PROJECT IN THE HISTORIC DISTRICT, BUT YET IT NEEDS THEIR APPROVAL. THE WATERFRONT PARK IS A PERFECT EXAMPLE. THAT WAS BROUGHT BEFORE THE HDC BEFORE THIS BOARD AND BEFORE THE COMMISSION AT VARIOUS TIMES DURING THE PROCESS. IT COULD HAVE BEEN FROM THE CONCEPTUAL POINT TO THE POINT WHERE HDC ACTUALLY HAD TO GIVE APPROVAL FOR IT BEFORE IT WENT TO COMMISSION. WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT IS, WHAT SHOULD THAT PROCESS HAVE BEEN? IN ORDER TO GET INPUT FROM ALL OF THE BOARDS SO THAT WHEN WE FINALLY GET TO THE POINT WHERE THE COMMISSION IS APPROVING IT, THAT THERE IS AT LEAST IF NOT A CONSENSUS FROM EVERYBODY ON EXACTLY WHAT'S HAPPENING, BUT THAT EVERYBODY THAT NEEDS TO HAS HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO WEIGH IN AT SOME POINT. REALLY TO MAKE THE PROCESS CLEANER AND TO MAKE EVERYBODY FEEL LIKE THEY'VE BEEN HEARD, ALL OF THE BOARDS THAT IT TOUCHES ON, AND OBVIOUSLY, EVERY PROJECT IS DIFFERENT. WE MAY HAVE A PROJECT LIKE WHAT IS GOING TO HAPPEN TO THE AREA WHERE BRETT IS NOW, THAT MAY NOT TOUCH THIS BOARD, BUT IT DEFINITELY TOUCHES THE CRA, IT TOUCHES THE MARINA, AND IT TOUCHES THE HDC. THAT MAY NEVER COME BEFORE YOU. BUT, IN THE INSTANCE OF THE WATERFRONT PARK, OBVIOUSLY, THERE WAS THE PLAY ELEMENT WAS PART OF IT, AND EVEN THE DISPOSITION OF THE PATON COURTS IN THAT AREA, WHICH WAS A RECREATION FEATURE. AFTER MUCH DISCUSSION, WHICH WAS GOOD DISCUSSION, I THINK, ONE OF THE SUGGESTIONS WAS CREATING A FLOW CHART. I THINK THAT'S REALLY A GOOD WAY TO HANDLE IT. WE START HERE WITH A CONCEPTUAL IDEA, AND THEN WHERE DOES IT GO FROM THERE? HOW DO WE DETERMINE WHICH BOARDS IT TOUCHES ON? WHAT LEVEL OF APPROVAL OR RECOMMENDATION IS IT JUST TO MAKE THEM AWARE? OR WHICH IN THE CASE OF THE WATERFRONT PARK, REALLY IT INVOLVED THEM WITH THE PARKING BECAUSE WE WERE EXPANDING THE PARKING FOR THE BOAT TRAILERS. BUT THEN THERE WAS SOME MISINFORMATION WHERE REGARDING THE BOAT RAMP, FEELING LIKE SOMETHING WAS HAPPENING WITH THE BOAT RAMP. THAT PROJECT WAS NEVER TOUCHING THE BOAT RAMP. IT WAS COMPLETELY A MISCOMMUNICATION, WHERE I THINK JUST A COURTESY PRESENTATION TO THEIR BOARD OF THE PROJECT IN GENERAL WOULD HAVE ELIMINATED THAT CONFUSION. I GUESS WITH THE ULTIMATE GOAL OF, LIKE I SAID, HAVING A LITTLE BIT MORE OF A UNITED FRONT, OR AT LEAST EVERY BOARD FEELING LIKE THEY'VE HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO WEIGH IN ON PROJECTS THAT TOUCH ON THEIR AREA OF RESPONSIBILITY. LIKE I SAID, IT'S A WORK IN PROGRESS, BUT IT WAS A GOOD START, AND WE'RE GOING TO PUT TOGETHER SOME TYPE OF A FLOW CHART BASED ON THE RECOMMENDATIONS THAT WERE MADE THAT NIGHT, AND THEN CERTAINLY HAPPY TO SHARE WITH YOU OR TOM WILL SHARE IT WITH YOU. >> TOM JUST ASKED ME TO TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THAT AND WHY SO I THOUGHT I WOULD MENTION IT. ANY QUESTIONS OR ANYTHING OR ANY OTHER COMMENTS? >> I THINK THE OTHER PART WHAT CAME OUT OF THIS MEETING WAS THAT WE WOULD BE GIVING THE COMMISSION A BETTER SENSE OF HOW ALL THE COMMITTEES WORKED TOGETHER TO GIVE THEM A FULL PACKAGE OF WHAT THE APPROVALS WERE BY EACH OF THE BOARDS THAT WERE AFFECTED BY IT. FOR EXAMPLE, WATERFRONT WOULD HAVE BEEN A PERFECT EXAMPLE OF IT LIKE SHE SAID. BUT I ALSO THINK THAT KNOWING WHAT'S GOING ON REST IN THE CITY IS IMPORTANT. WE MAKE GOOD DECISIONS BASED ON WHAT THESE OTHER ADVISORY BOARDS ARE COMING UP WITH, SO WE'RE NOT LEFT IN THE LOOP, [01:10:01] WE'RE NOT LEFT OUT OF THE LOOP, AND WHERE WE ARE IN THE LOOP. IT GIVES US A BETTER FEELING GOING FORWARD WHEN WE MAKE DECISIONS. >> I THINK WITH THIS PLAY EQUIPMENT, I SENT JENNY SOME INFORMATION ABOUT HOW CRABB CAME TO THE DECISION THAT THEY CAME TO RECOMMEND THAT PARTICULAR PIECE OF PLAY EQUIPMENT BECAUSE THERE WERE REASONS THAT THE SPACE WAS ONE LIMITATION, THE AMOUNT OF ACTIVITIES THAT WERE POSSIBLE WITH THAT PIECE OF PLAY EQUIPMENT, THE RANGE OF AGES THAT IT WOULD SERVE, AND THE RANGE OF ABILITIES THAT IT WOULD SERVE. ALL OF THOSE THINGS WERE FACTORS. IT WASN'T JUST THAT WE PULLED IT OUT OF OUR HAT, BUT I THINK IF BY NOT COMING HERE AND PRESENTING IT OR COMING HERE AND ASKING AHEAD OF TIME WHAT DO YOU THINK SHOULD BE THERE AND ALLOWING YOU TO COME TO THAT CONCLUSION, THE PROCESS JUST WASN'T AS CLEAN AS IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN AND IT WASN'T AS TRANSPARENT, I GUESS. >> I WAS LOOKING TO ADOPT A SIMILAR PROCESS FOR THE ARTS AND HOW THEY [OVERLAPPING] >> THAT'S A PERFECT EXAMPLE. >> THAT'S PROBABLY A GOOD WAY TO MAYBE EVEN FOR THIS CITY JUST IN GENERAL TO HIGHLIGHT THOSE PROCESSES AND I LIKE YOUR IDEA OF A FLOW TURN, ALL ABOUT EFFICIENCY AND HOW WE CAN IDENTIFY THAT SO THAT WE KNOW WHAT THE NEXT STEPS ARE AND WE CAN MOVE THESE PROJECTS ALONG A LITTLE MORE EFFICIENTLY. >> BECAUSE I THINK THAT'S THE DANGER. WHEN WE BRING THIS UP WITH CITY STAFF, THERE'S ALWAYS THE FEAR THAT IF WE'RE GOING TO RUN IT THROUGH SEVERAL DIFFERENT BOARDS, EVERYBODY MEETS ONCE A MONTH, THEY MEET AT DIFFERENT TIMES. SOMETIMES IT'S EASY TO GET ON A SCHEDULE. SOME BOARDS ARE HARDER, WHEN IT'S HDC THAT'S A QUASI-JUDICIAL BOARD, IT'S A LITTLE MORE CHALLENGING TO GET ON THEIR SCHEDULE. THAT ALL HAS TO BE TAKEN INTO CONSIDERATION. I THINK WE'RE TRYING TO BE RESPECTFUL OF NOT EXTENDING THE TIME PERIOD ON DISCUSSION AND RECOMMENDATIONS, BUT ALSO MAKING SURE THAT EVERYBODY WHO NEEDS TO BE AWARE IS AWARE THROUGHOUT THE PROCESS. THAT'S MY ULTIMATE GOAL WITH THAT, BUT I THINK WE HAD GOOD COOPERATION WITH EVERYBODY AND I THINK AS WE WORK THROUGH THIS WE'LL HAVE MORE TO SHARE. >> IF I UNDERSTAND CORRECTLY, REALLY WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT WITH THIS IS TIMMY, BECAUSE JEREMY YOU ARE FOR THE GUN? >> FOR WHICH PROJECT? [LAUGHTER] >> YES. >> FOR WATERFRONT PART. >> YES. >> WE'RE AT THE GO POINT. >> WE'RE READY TO GO. PURCHASE ORDERS IS ALREADY BEEN ISSUED. WE'RE WRAPPING UP CONTRACT DETAILS. WE'RE GOING TO GO DOING A GROUND OPENING HERE PROBABLY WITHIN TWO WEEKS ON THE RATE TO MOBILIZE AND GET GOING. LOOK AT A NINE, 10-MONTH PROJECT, SO THE SOONER WE GET GOING THE BETTER. OF COURSE, THERE ARE SOME ELEMENTS THAT SCOTT MENTIONED THAT WILL STILL NEED TO BE DECIDED UPON. THOSE ARE ELEMENTS THAT WE PROVIDE. EVERYTHING FROM BENCHES AND WISH RECEPTACLES WHICH THOSE ARE KNOWN STYLE OR KNOWN ELEMENT, SOME OF THE ARTWORK AND THE PLAYGROUND STRUCTURE OF WHAT TO FITTED IN THERE AS IS CONSTRUCTED. >> WE KNOW THE PLAYGROUND PIECE IS EXPEDITED BECAUSE THAT'S ALREADY BEEN IN FRONT OF THE COMMISSION AND OBVIOUSLY THAT NEEDS TO GO SOONER THAN LATER. THE ART PIECES, I KNOW YOU HAVE TALKED ABOUT A COUPLE OF THINGS THAT WE ALREADY HAVE THAT ARE EXISTING. BUT DO WE NEED TO BE ON A SIMILAR SCHEDULE IDENTIFYING THOSE PIECES AS THE PLAYGROUND OR DO WE HAVE TIME? >> IT WOULD BE GOOD TO PUSH IT. I KNOW THAT ARTWORK IS LARGELY SUBJECTIVE AND THERE MAY BE SOME DISCOURSE ON THAT. SAME WAY WITH THE PLAYGROUND STRUCTURE AS FAR AS DIFFERENT STYLES AND PIECES. THE SOONER WE CAN MAKE THAT PRIORITY THE BETTER, IT WOULD BE NICE TO LET THE CONTRACTOR KNOW. HERE'S WHAT WE KNOW THAT'S GOING THERE AND MAKE NECESSARY APPEAL ADJUSTMENTS TO PREPARE FOR THAT. WHAT WAS MENTIONED OR AT LEAST IN THE DESIGN WAS A STRIPPING MONUMENT FOR THOSE WHO DON'T KNOW, IT'S DOWN THERE IN PARKING LOT A. IT'S A TALL VERTICAL PIECE OF A LITTLE SHRIMP BOOT ON TOP. IT'S EASY TO OVERLOOK BECAUSE IT'S A SLENDER PIECE, BUT THAT WOULD NEED SOMETHING PROBABLY AROUND IT TO COMPLEMENT IT. THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE ALREADY HAVE THAT WE'VE DISCUSSED THE LARGE ANCHOR AND CHAIN IN FRONT OF BRETZ. BEEN THERE FOR DECADES. IT IS A CITY ASSET. WE KNOW THAT EVENTUALLY WHEN WE START DOING THE WORK AROUND BRETZ, IT'S GOING TO NEED A NEW TEMPORARY HOME. MAYBE THIS IS A NEW PERMANENT HOME. THERE ARE TWO THINGS WE KNOW THAT FIT THE WATERFRONT, THEY WORK. WHAT KIT HASN'T GONE BY AND TRY TO PICK UP THAT CHAIN. AS THEY DO, IT'S JUST PART OF OUR LANDSCAPE DOWN THERE, THE WATERFRONT. THOSE ARE SOME PIECES THAT MIGHT BE REPURPOSED THERE. BUT THOSE ARE TWO THINGS THAT DON'T INVOLVE GOING OUT AND REINVENTING THE WHEEL SO TO SPEAK. BUT THE PLANNER AND THE OTHER THINGS, WE DEFINITELY LIKE YOUR RECOMMENDATIONS GOING FORWARD, SO WE CAN LET THE CONTRACTOR KNOW AS SOON AS POSSIBLE, HERE'S WHAT'S GOING HERE, [01:15:01] PREPARE YOUR CONCRETE OR WHATEVER ACCORDINGLY FOR THAT THAT STRUCTURE. >> MY QUESTION AROUND THAT WOULD BE BECAUSE WE HAVE NOT ESTABLISHED THE PROCESS OR PROTOCOL, WE HAVEN'T FULLY ADOPTED THAT YET OR HAD IT WHERE IT HAS TO BE APPROVED I THINK BY THE COMMISSION, CORRECT, SCOTT? >> THAT IS CORRECT. >> ARE WE IN A POSITION WHERE WE CAN MAKE THOSE RECOMMENDATIONS OUTSIDE OF THAT REAL PROCESS THAT WE HOPE TO HAVE SOMEDAY THAT WE CAN MAKE THOSE RECOMMENDATIONS NOW OR IS THAT SOMETHING THAT WE ARE GOING TO HAVE TO WAIT? DO YOU UNDERSTAND WHAT I'M ASKING? SHOULD WE BE MAKING THAT DECISION NOW OR WHAT ARE OUR RECOMMENDATIONS AND THINGS WE COULD CONSIDER? I KNOW YOU AND I TALKED ABOUT IT BRIEFLY, THERE'S A HORSE TROUGH I'VE NEVER SEEN, BUT IT COULD BE USED AS A PLANTER OR SOME FOUNTAIN LIKE THING. I PERSONALLY LIKE THE IDEA OF TAKING WHAT'S NEW, BUT UTILIZING THINGS THAT WE ALREADY HAVE, IT SAVES US MONEY, OBVIOUSLY. PEOPLE ARE TIED TO A LOT OF THESE THINGS EMOTIONALLY. I SUPPORT REUSING THINGS THAT WE CAN. THAT MAKES SENSE. >> SCOTT, IS THIS SOMETHING THAT WITH THE R AND THE PLAYGROUND SINCE WE'RE GOING TO NEED TO MOVE QUICKLY ON THAT WE SHOULD TRY TO MAYBE HAVE A WORKSHOP DOWN THERE IN THE NEXT TWO WEEKS WITH EVERYBODY OUT HERE AND WE COULD SAY, "HERE'S THE 29 FEET MARKED ABOUT WHERE IT'S GOING TO GO. IF WE DID A SHRIMP BOOT, WE'RE GOING TO NEED TO EXTEND IT 15 FEET. HERE'S WHERE THAT'S GOING TO GO. THIS IS THE SHRIMP, WE CAN WALK OVER TO THE SHRIMP MONUMENT. ANYBODY HAVE IDEAS?" I JUST FEEL LIKE SOMETIMES WHEN WE GET TO THE MEETING, LIKE THE MARCH MEETING AND WE'RE LIKE, "WE NEED A DECISION" AND EVERYONE'S LIKE, "WHAT EXACTLY DOES THE SPACE LOOK LIKE?" THEN I DON'T WANT TO GET IN A SITUATION WHERE WE'RE GOING, "WE NEED ANOTHER MONTH TO TALK ABOUT THIS BECAUSE WE CAN'T MAKE A DECISION." >> I THINK I THINK TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, WE NEED TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THESE ITEMS OUTSIDE OF THE ART PROCESS. WE NEED TO GET THIS TAKEN CARE OF. WE ACTUALLY WE'RE JUST TALKING ABOUT A WORKSHOP AND I THINK THAT WE WOULD LIKE PARKS AND RECREATION STAFF WOULD LIKE TO HAVE A WORKSHOP PRIOR TO OUR MARCH MEETING TO SHOW THEM THOSE EXACT LOCATIONS AND ALLOW THE PUBLIC TO COME DOWN AND HAVE CONVERSATIONS YES. >> I'D HATE FOR YOU GUYS TO SPEND SO MUCH TIME COMING UP WITH SEVERAL DIFFERENT PLAYGROUND IDEAS IF WE ALL GET DOWN THERE AND THINK, YES, EXPAND THE AREA OR NO, DON'T AND YOU COME UP WITH ONE WAY OR, WHATEVER IT IS. I'D LIKE YOU'RE GOING TO EXHAUST ENERGY IN TIME THAT IF WE CAN GET DOWN THERE AND COME UP WITH AN IDEA OR A PLAN AND SEE IT, IT MIGHT SAVE EVERYBODY SOME TIME. THEN HOPEFULLY AT THE NEXT MEETING, WE'LL HAVE ALL BEEN ABLE TO DISCUSS SOME STUFF AND SEE IT, HAVE OUR QUESTIONS READY, AND BE PREPARED TO MAKE A DECISION. >> YES. WE WOULD LIKE TO HAVE A WORKSHOP PRIOR. >> FIELD TRUE. >> YES. >> FIELD TRUE. [LAUGHTER] >> WE'LL FOLLOW UP FOR SOME DATES FOR WORKSHOP. >> YES. BUT GOING BACK TO WHAT JEREMIAH SAID, I THINK MOVING FORWARD WITH THOSE ART PIECES AND HAVING THAT DISCUSSION NOW COMPARED TO WAITING ON WHEN THAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN, I THINK WE HAVE TO SEPARATE THOSE TWO ITEMS. >> I WOULD THINK SO. I JUST WANTED TO BE CLEAR AND ON THE RECORD THAT THAT'S WHAT OUR PLAN IS BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY WE'RE MORE NIMBLE TO DO THAT NOW THAN WHEN WE HAVE A PROCESS IN PLACE. WITH TIME BEING OF THE ESSENCE, WE SHOULD DEFINITELY MOVE FORWARD. >> I DON'T KNOW IF ALL OF THOSE THINGS ARE SOMEWHERE THAT CAN BE SEEN, BUT SEEING THE STRIP MONUMENT I DON'T KNOW EXACTLY WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE EITHER, BUT SEEING ALL THAT, WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO COME UP WITH IDEAS OR IT MIGHT HELP US FIGURE OUT WHAT TO DO WITH IT OR WHAT WE THINK. >> SOUNDS GREAT. [7. BOARD MEMBER COMMENTS] >> NUMBER 7, BOARD MEMBER COMMENTS. WE'LL START AT THE END AND GO THIS WAY. >> NO, I DON'T THINK I HAVE ANY. I REALLY SUPPORT THE IDEA OF A WORKSHOP, SO WE CAN MAKE THESE DECISIONS. BUT NO REAL COMMENTS. THANK YOU. >> I THINK THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL OF BEING NEW AND SEEING ALL THE AREAS. I DON'T THINK I HAVE ANYTHING ELSE. THEY LEFT. ALICIA THOMAS IS GOING TO BE SENDING ALL OF US AN INVITATION FOR SATURDAY, MARCH 1ST AT NINE O'CLOCK. IT'S THE OPENING OF THE ELM STREET LITTLE LEAGUE. SORRY, MY CEILING HERE. YOU ALL WILL BE GETTING INVITATIONS TO THAT. I HOPE THAT WE'LL ALL BE ABLE TO COME TO THAT, CELEBRATE THOSE GUYS. [01:20:06] ALSO SCOTT, I JUST WANTED TO SAY I'VE BEEN OUT THE GREENWAY A LOT AND I KNOW THAT'S BEEN REALLY CUT BACK FOR THE BEGINNING OF THE SEASON AND FOR ALLOWING THINGS TO GROW. I THINK I REACHED OUT TO YOU GUYS LAST YEAR BECAUSE IT WAS A HOT MESS. THAT IS NOT THE CASE THIS YEAR. IT LOOKS REALLY GREAT OUT THERE. I NOTICED SOME LAY SIGNAGE AND I LIKE THAT YOU TOOK AWAY THAT CRAZY ENTRY GATE THING AT HICKORY AND SATNA. IT JUST LOOKS MORE SO MUCH NICER OVER THERE AND I JUST WANTED TO ACKNOWLEDGE THAT THE GREEN MAD LOOKS REALLY GOOD. >> WELL, THANK YOU ALSO, BUT I WILL LET KATHY RUSSELL AND KATHY RUSSELL IN THE PLANNING AND CONSERVATION DEPARTMENT DEALS A LOT WITH THAT NOW AND ACTUALLY HAS A CONTRACTOR THAT IS DOING SOME OF THAT WORK. THANK YOU FOR RECOGNIZING THAT AND I'LL MAKE SURE THAT SHE IS AWARE THAT YOU RECOGNIZE THAT AT OUR MEETING. >> WHAT THEY DID LAST YEAR, I DON'T KNOW IF ANY OF YOU GUYS WERE ON IT BUT THEY USED A DIFFERENT MACHINE OR WHATEVER WHEN THEY WERE GETTING THE BRUSH FROM THE SIDES BECAUSE THAT STUFF GROWS REALLY FAST. BUT THERE WERE GIANT CHIPS AND STUFF ALL OVER THE TRAIL. IT WAS PRISTINE OUT THERE WHEN I WAS OUT THERE THIS MORNING. THERE WERE A LOT OF PEOPLE OUT THERE, SO THAT JUST REALLY LOOKS GREAT. THANKS FOR THAT. I THINK THAT THAT WAS ALL I HAVE. >> THANK YOU. >> WELL. NUMBER 1, MARCH 1, ELM STREET. ANYBODY THAT HAD ATTENDED, PLEASE [LAUGHTER]. IT'S A BIG TO DO. MARCH THE EIGHTH IS BAY BRUCE, OPENING DAY AND EVERYBODY'S INVITED. WE HAVE QUITE ARRAY OF THINGS GOING ON FROM THE PARK FROM 8:30 TO 5:00 FROM BAY BROTH THAT DAY. GIVE YOU A HINT. PAPA JOHN HAS ENTERED INTO THE NEIGHBORHOOD IN EWE AND THEY WILL BE COMING OUT WITH MR. SLICE AND ZAXBY WILL BE THERE WITH THEIR CHICKEN AND SO ON AND SO FORTH, THEN THERE WILL BE A LOT OF GAMES IN PUP PUT AND EVERYTHING ELSE. IT'S NOT JUST BASEBALL, IT'S A FAMILY DAY. SECOND OF ALL, I WANT TO THANK PARKS AND REC FOR THEIR CONTRIBUTION TO THE FIELDS. I'VE PAID BROTH. THEY'VE DONE AN EXCELLENT JOB IN PUTTING TOGETHER OUR SEASON AND GETTING THE PARKS READY FOR THE NEXT FIVE MONTHS. IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE REALIZE THAT THAT FIELD IS BEING USED EVERY DAY. THE GOOD NEWS WAS FOOTBALL HAD 336 KIDS FOR FLAG FOOTBALL. AMAZING. IT WAS AN INCREASE OF ABOUT 41 KIDS FROM LAST YEAR. WE WENT FROM 299-316. THIS YEAR, BIG INCREASE AND WE'RE STILL STAYING WITHIN OUR SPACE. I DON'T KNOW HOW WE'RE DOING IT AND I DON'T CARE TO KNOW [LAUGHTER]. THE LAST THING THAT I'D LIKE TO BRING UP IS THAT WE DO HAVE A LOT OF THINGS GOING ON. BUT I THINK OUR MAIN OBJECTIVE FOR PARKS AND REC IS TO MAKE SURE THAT WE KEEP UP WHAT WE HAVE AND MAINTAIN WHAT WE HAVE INSTEAD OF CONTINUOUSLY TRYING TO ADD MORE PROJECTS BECAUSE WE'RE RUNNING OUT OF MANPOWER HOURS. THERE'S SO MANY THINGS GOING ON BETWEEN THE BEACH, BETWEEN BOSCO BELLO, BETWEEN THE BALLPARKS, EVERYTHING. IT ALL FALLS UNDER THE PARKS AND RED. THEY ONLY HAVE SO MANY PEOPLE AND WE NEED TO REALLY TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THESE PEOPLE THAT WE HAVE, PARK AND EVERYTHING THAT GOES ON. WE HAVE A LOT OF OBLIGATIONS THAT THEY HAVE TO FULFILL AND THEY ONLY GOT FIVE DAYS TO DO IT EVERY WEEK AND THEY'RE IMPACTED BY WEATHER. I JUST WANT TO SAY THAT. MY LAST THING THAT I'D LIKE TO BRING UP, I WANT TO COMMEND YOU ON YOUR LAST TWO APPEARANCES AT THE COMMISSION. YOU'VE DONE A FANTASTIC JOB IN EXPLAINING HOW PARKS AND REC CAME TO THE CONCLUSION FOR A PLAYGROUND. WE'RE NOW COMING INTO THE FINAL STAGES OF IT. [01:25:05] SHE'S PUT A LOT OF EFFORT INTO THIS PROJECT IN FRONT OF THE COMMISSION. I NEVER COULD HAVE BEEN MORE PROUD OF A PERSON GIVING THE RESPECT OF HOW SHE LOOKS AT THIS PROJECT, NOT JUST FROM AN INDIVIDUAL STANDPOINT, BUT FROM A CITY STANDPOINT AND WHAT THE IMPACT IT HAS. WE HAVE OUR PORT CUTOFF FORCE NEXT MONTH AND COMING UP WITH SOMETHING FOR THIS 29 FEET THAT WE HAVE. >> TWENTY SEVEN. >> TWENTY SEVEN. >> I'M TRYING TO GIVE HER TWO MORE [LAUGHTER]. THANK YOU. ANYBODY ELSE HAS ANYTHING ELSE TO SAY WITH THAT? * This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.