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[1. CALL TO ORDER]
THE GOLF COURSE ADVISORY BOARD REGULAR MEETING FOR JANUARY 23RD, 2025 AT THE CITY HALL COMMISSION CHAMBERS.THE MEETING IS NOW CALLED TO ORDER.
MADAM, CAN YOU CALL THE ROLL CALL, PLEASE?
>> COULD WE STAND FOR THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE, PLEASE.
CONGRESSMAN, WILL YOU LEAD US?
[4. APPROVAL OF MINUTES]
04, APPROVAL OF MINUTES.4.1 TO DECEMBER 2024 OF REGULAR MEETING MINUTES.
THAT'S AN ATTACHMENT IN THEIR PACKET.
SOMEBODY HAD A CHANCE TO LOOK AT IT?
>> SOMEONE LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION? MOTION TO ACCEPT? SORRY.
>> THAT'S ALL RIGHT. IT DOESN'T MATTER. I CAN BE THE SECOND. [LAUGHTER]
>> AWESOME. ITEM 5, PUBLIC COMMENT REGARDING ITEMS NOT ON THE AGENDA.
NOT APPLICABLE TODAY, NO ONE ELSE IS HERE.
[6.1 Equipment Purchases, Driving Range, Course Rating (Updates / Discussions)]
6.1, EQUIPMENT PURCHASES, DRIVING RANGE, GOLF COURSE RANGE.LOOKS LIKE MR. MICHAELSON HAS STEPPED TO THE PODIUM.
>> SCOTT MICHAELSON, PARKS AND RECREATION DIRECTOR.
JEFFREY, AS YOU GUYS KNOW, IS AT THE PGA SHOW IN ORLANDO, SO I'M FILLING IN.
JEFFREY AND I AND THE STAFF WANTED TO THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR CONTINUED SUPPORT OF THE GOLF COURSE.
WE HAVE TO CONTINUE TO KEEP PUSHING.
THE GOLF COURSE IS TURNING, WE BELIEVE, AND IS CONSTANTLY IMPROVING AND WE WILL CONTINUE TO WORK TO CONTINUE THAT PROCESS.
A COUPLE OF THINGS THAT WE WANTED TO GO OVER.
WE'RE OBVIOUSLY IN A LITTLE BIT OF A SLOW PERIOD HERE WITH THE WEATHER AND SUCH.
BUT GOING BACK ON TO A PREVIOUS DISCUSSION THAT WE HAD IS WE JUST WANTED TO GIVE YOU AN UPDATE ON SOME OF THE ITEMS THAT HAVE COME INTO THE GOLF COURSE IF YOU WERE NOT AWARE OF.
A FEW MONTHS BACK DURING THE BUDGETING PROCESS, WE PRESENTED TO YOU GUYS A ROTATION FOR VEHICLES AND EQUIPMENT.
IF YOU COULD, IF YOU CAN MAYBE SCROLL UP, WE JUST WANTED TO MAKE YOU AWARE, WHICH I BELIEVE YOU MAY HAVE SEEN THESE.
BUT WE HAVE RECEIVED BOTH OF OUR FAIRWAY MOWERS.
PAM, I KNOW AT LEAST THEY'VE BEEN USED AT LEAST ONE TIME.
>> JUST ONCE. WE HAVE TO HAVE THE GRASS GROW.
>> EXACTLY. WE HAVE RECEIVED THOSE.
ALSO, IN ADDITION, WE WANTED TO LET YOU KNOW THAT OUR GREENS MOWERS SHOULD BE ARRIVING SHORTLY, AND ALSO WITHIN THAT ROTATION THIS YEAR, THE BUNKER RAKE, AND AS WELL AS A ROLLER FOR THE GREENS.
THOSE ARE COMING, AND I KNOW MARK AND JEFFREY AND PAM ARE KEEPING TRACK OF THOSE AND WHEN WE DO RECEIVE THOSE.
GOING ALONG WITH OUR EQUIPMENT PURCHASES, WE ARE GOING TO CONTINUE TO NEED YOUR SUPPORT AS WE GO FORWARD WITHIN THE BUDGETS BECAUSE WE DO HAVE A LOT OF EQUIPMENT THAT NEEDS TO BE REPLACED.
WE FEEL THAT WE'VE DONE A PRETTY GOOD JOB OF GETTING WHAT WE HAVE GOTTEN, AND THANK YOU TO THE COMMISSION FOR ALLOWING THIS TO HAPPEN.
BUT ANYWAYS, THAT'S WHERE WE ARE ON OUR EQUIPMENT.
WE RECEIVED THE SPRAY RIG AS WELL.
THAT WAS MONEY THAT HAD BEEN ROLLED OVER FROM BUDGET TO BUDGET.
JUST BECAUSE OF OBVIOUSLY TRYING TO GET THESE ITEMS, IT'S TAKEN LONGER.
THAT'S WHY WE DID THE INTENT TO PURCHASE ON THE FAIRWAY UNITS.
WE GOT THOSE, WE GOT IN LINE FOR THAT.
WE DID INTEND TO PURCHASE ON THE GREENS MOWERS, AS WELL AS THE BUNKER RAKE, I BELIEVE.
WE WILL BE GETTING THOSE ITEMS SHORTLY.
AS WE GET THOSE, THEY'LL BE CHANGED DOWN INTO OUR ROTATION PLAN, SO WE AREN'T WHERE WE ARE WHEN THE CITY TOOK BACK OVER THE GOLF COURSE.
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ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT EQUIPMENT?>> SCOTT, QUESTION ABOUT MAINTENANCE CONTRACTS AFTER WARRANTY.
AFTER THE WARRANTY RUNS OUT, WILL WE HAVE MAINTENANCE CONTRACTS ON THE NEW EQUIPMENT?
>> WELL, SO THE ULTIMATE GOAL WITH THE EQUIPMENT IS FOR US TO FOLLOW THE ROTATION PLAN.
WE DO HAVE A MAINTENANCE TECHNICIAN AT THE GOLF COURSE THAT I KNOW JEFFREY AND MARK ARE VERY HAPPY WITH.
THE GOAL WILL BE WE WON'T HAVE AS MANY MAINTENANCE ISSUES WITH THIS EQUIPMENT BECAUSE ONCE IT REACHES THIS, SO FOR THE GREENS MOWERS, FIVE-YEAR ROTATION PLAN.
WE'RE ABLE TO GET RID OF THE EQUIPMENT, RECEIVE SOME MONEY BACK FROM THAT AND IN TURN THEN BUY NEW EQUIPMENT.
AS OF RIGHT NOW, THE PLAN WOULD NOT BE TO HAVE MAINTENANCE CONTRACTS OR WARRANTIES, I BELIEVE, EXTENDED WARRANTIES.
>> I THINK WARRANTIES COME FIRST.
>> WE COULD LOOK INTO IT AND SEE WHAT THOSE COSTS ARE.
BUT AS OF RIGHT NOW WITH THIS EQUIPMENT, ONCE THAT WARRANTY IS DONE, WE WOULD MAINTAIN IT.
BUT WE WOULDN'T WANT TO KEEP IT FOR EIGHT OR NINE YEARS BECAUSE AT THAT POINT, IT HAS NO VALUE AT ALL.
>> YES, SIR. IF YOU COULD GO DOWN TO THE NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.
WE OBVIOUSLY ALL ARE AWARE OF THE DRIVING RANGE.
GOOD NEWS. THE COMMISSION APPROVED ON JANUARY 21ST, THE PURCHASE OF NEW POLES.
FPU IS GOING TO COME IN, THEY'RE GOING TO REMOVE EVERYTHING AND PUT NEW POLES IN.
THEN WE ARE ACTUALLY GOING BACK TO THE COMMISSION.
THAT WAS APPROVED, SO WE'RE GOING THROUGH THAT PROCESS, THAT WAS APPROVED ON JANUARY 21ST.
WE'RE GOING TO GO BACK TO THE COMMISSION ON FEBRUARY 4TH AND WE DO HAVE THE MONEY FOR THE PURCHASE OF NEW NETTING.
REMEMBER, WITH THE POLLS, WE'RE LOOKING AT A DIFFERENCE OF ABOUT $6,000 THAT IS GOING TO BE COMING OUT OF THE GOLF BUDGET.
WITH OUR INSURANCE CLAIM, THAT'S WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT.
JEFFREY, MYSELF, PAM, FINANCE DEPARTMENT IS ALSO WORKING ON PROFIT-LOSS STATEMENTS TO SEE IF WE CAN RECLAIM ANY OF THAT MONEY TO HELP GO TOWARD THE BRAND NEW NETTING OF THE DRIVING RANGE.
WE ARE WORKING THROUGH THAT PROCESS.
THERE'S A LITTLE TIMEFRAME HERE NOW WHERE FPU WILL NEED, OBVIOUSLY THEY'RE WAITING ON OUR APPROVAL.
WE ARE WORKING WITH THEM TO SEE WHEN THEY WILL BE ABLE TO GET OUT HERE AND START THE PROJECT.
MY GUESS IS YOU HAVE SOME QUESTIONS ABOUT THE DRIVING RANGE.
FIRST ONE IS, WHEN DO WE RUN OUT OF THE GAMUT OF THE INSURANCE COMPANY CLAIM? WHEN DO THEY STOP ESTIMATING WHAT THEY'RE GOING TO PAY US?
>> WE HAVE RECEIVED MONEY FOR THE DAMAGES.
WE HAVE RECEIVED THAT AND WE'RE USING THAT TOWARDS THE PURCHASE OF THE POLES.
TECHNICALLY, THE ENTIRE CLAIM WILL NOT BE COMPLETE UNTIL THE PROJECT IS DONE BECAUSE WE'RE STILL LOSING MONEY.
>> IT'S UNDETERMINED AT THIS POINT.
>> THE CLAIM IS STILL ONGOING?
>> THE CLAIM IS STILL ONGOING, THAT IS CORRECT.
>> UNTIL COMPLETION OF THE PROJECT?
>> SECOND OF ALL, WHAT IS THE PRICE OF THE NETTING COMING IN AT? DO YOU KNOW?
ONE THING WITH THAT IS WHAT WE DECIDED THAT WE WANTED TO DO.
THE EASTERN PART OF THE DRIVING RANGE, CLOSEST TO THE OCEAN, WE'RE EXTENDING THAT TO THE SOUTH, TWO ADDITIONAL POLES AND ADDING NETTING THERE.
BECAUSE I BELIEVE WHEN TOPTRACER GOT PUT IN,
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THERE WAS MANY BALLS THAT WERE BEING LOST TO THE EAST THAT WERE IMMEDIATELY SHOOTING RIGHT.WE'RE ACTUALLY EXTENDING IT A LITTLE BIT CLOSER TO WHERE PEOPLE HIT.
WE WILL NOT LOSE AS MANY BALLS RIGHT THERE OFF TO THE RIGHT-HAND SIDE, IMMEDIATELY TO THE EAST.
WE'RE EXTENDING THAT THE EASTERN PART A LITTLE TO THE SOUTH.
>> ARE WE GOING DEEPER OR ARE WE JUST STAYING AT THE SAME DEPTH?
>> NO, WE ARE NOT GOING DEEPER.
EVERYTHING IS GOING TO BE JUST LIKE IT IS, EXCEPT FOR THAT PART THAT IS ON THE EASTERN SIDE, IT'S GOING TO EXTEND A LITTLE BIT CLOSER TO WHERE PEOPLE HIT.
TWO MORE POLES AND TWO SECTIONS OF NETTING.
>> MY QUESTION IS GOING OVER THE BUDGET, I PERSONALLY DON'T SEE MUCH ROOM IN THE BUDGET FOR PAYING FOR THIS APPROXIMATELY 50,000.
MY OPINION IS WE NEED TO GO TO THE COMMISSION AND ASK THEM FOR THE MONEY.
IT'S NOT A ROUTINE EXPENDITURE OR ANYTHING.
IT'S AN UNFORESEEN DISASTER OF WHICH THE INSURANCE CAN'T COVER AT ALL, BUT IT NEEDS TO BE REPLACED.
IT SEEMS TO ME, IT WOULD BE A GOOD ASK AS FAR AS ASKING HIM FOR THE MONEY INSTEAD OF TRYING TO PAY.
LET'S PRETEND THERE'S SLACK IN OUR BUDGET, WHICH ESPECIALLY WITH THE DRIVING RANGE LOSSES AND OTHER ITEMS MAY BE RUNNING NOT QUITE UP TO BUDGET RIGHT NOW, THAT IT WOULD BE WISE JUST TO ASK THEM TO FUND IT.
IF THERE'S ANYTHING LEFT OVER, THEY CAN HAVE IT BACK.
>> I THINK WHAT WE COULD DO IS LET'S SEE WHERE ALL THE NUMBERS COME IN AT.
LET'S SEE WHAT THE PROFIT-LOSS AND THE REVENUE THAT WE HAVE LOST AND THAT WE MAY BE ABLE TO RECOVER, LET'S SEE WHERE THOSE NUMBERS COME OUT AT ONCE IT'S DONE AND THEN WE COULD HAVE THAT DISCUSSION.
>> YOU THINK IT'S PREMATURE RIGHT NOW?
>> WELL, I THINK WHAT WE NEED TO DO IS I THINK WE NEED TO SEE WHAT THE EXACT NUMBERS ARE.
I WOULDN'T NECESSARILY FEEL COMFORTABLE GOING TO THE COMMISSION OR THE CITY MANAGER AND REQUESTING THAT IF I DON'T KNOW EXACTLY WHAT THE NUMBERS ARE SAYING.
I THINK ONCE WE DO GET THERE, THEN WE COULD HAVE THAT DISCUSSION.
JEFFREY AND I, WELL, WOULD WE WOULD REPORT BACK TO THE BOARD AND SAY, HERE, THIS IS EXACTLY THE WAY IT PLAYED OUT.
WHAT WOULD YOU LIKE TO SEE AT THAT TIME? THEN WE CAN GO FROM THERE.
>> GOOD. SCOTT, I THINK YOU AND JEFFREY PROBABLY ALREADY THOUGHT OF THIS.
IT MIGHT BE GOOD TO HIGHLIGHT TO THE CITY COMMISSION THAT THAT'S THE PROCESS YOU'RE GOING TO USE SO IT'S NOT A SURPRISE FOR THEM IF SIX MONTHS FROM NOW, WE COME BACK AND SAY, HEY, WE NEED SOME HELP.
JUST HIGHLIGHT TO THEM, THIS IS THE PROCESS WE'RE GOING TO USE, WE MAY COME BACK TO YOU FOR HELP, WE MAY NOT.
>> I THINK AT OUR FEBRUARY 4TH MEETING TO THE COMMISSION, AND YOU'RE MORE THAN WELCOME TO COME TO THAT, THAT WILL BE DISCUSSED.
>> BECAUSE THAT MONEY THAT WE ARE USING IS COMING OUT OF OUR BUDGET, IS LITERALLY COMING OUT.
WE'RE TRANSFERRING MONEY FROM ONE OF OUR ACCOUNTS TO REPAIR AND MAINTENANCE, SO IT'S A LOT OF MONEY.
>> BECAUSE SECONDARY REASON WOULD BE, I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU SAID THAT DELAY COSTS MONEY JUST AS FAR AS DELAY OF GETTING IT BACK OPEN, THE CONTINUING EXPENSE OF THE TOPTRACER RENT.
I THINK IT MIGHT SAVE MONEY THE EARLIEST THEY COULD DO IT.
>> YEAH. THAT'S WHERE WE HAVE TO WAIT TO SEE EXACTLY WHAT THOSE NUMBERS ARE.
>> BECAUSE WE MAY BE GETTING ADDITIONAL MONEY BACK, SO THAT'S GOING TO OFFSET COSTS.
>> NEW JUDGMENT ON THAT. WE CAN HAVE THAT CONVERSATION WHEN WE KNOW THAT NUMBER.
OUR GOAL IS TO GET IT OPEN. WE NEED TO GET IT OPEN.
ESPECIALLY AS WE COME INTO, ONCE THE WEATHER TURNS, IT HAS TO.
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>> WHEN IS HE EXPECTED? YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT HE DID.
>> I WILL TELL YOU THAT WE DID SEND AN EMAIL YESTERDAY TO THE FPU WITH THE APPROVED RESOLUTION.
WE ARE DOING THE PURCHASE ORDER TOMORROW.
THEY ARE AWARE THAT IT HAS BEEN APPROVED.
>> THAT'S, STARTING POINT. VERY GOOD.
>> OKAY. COULD YOU GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE? I WISH JEFFREY WAS HERE A LITTLE BIT TO SPEAK TO THIS.
HE'S OBVIOUSLY AT THE PGA SHOW, WHICH I BELIEVE HE HAD MENTIONED TO YOU.
BUT, COURSE RATING, FEBRUARY 11TH, IN FEBRUARY 13TH.
THEY ARE GOING TO BE OUT THERE TO RERATE THE COURSE.
I KNOW JEFFREY HAS SPOKEN TO THE MEN'S ASSOCIATION AS WELL AS THE WOMEN'S ASSOCIATION.
I BELIEVE AND I DON'T WANT TO SPEAK FOR HIM COMPLETELY, BUT HE HAS MADE PEOPLE AWARE THAT THIS IS HAPPENING.
I BELIEVE POSSIBLY THE LAST RERATING OF THE COURSE WAS MAYBE IN 2013.
SOME OF YOU THAT HAVE BEEN INVOLVED WITH THE GOLF COURSE, MAY KNOW BETTER, BUT, I BELIEVE THEY RERATED EVERY ABOUT 10 YEARS.
WE ARE GOING TO HAVE ON FEBRUARY 11TH AND 13TH THEM TO COME OUT AND RERATE IT.
THAT $2,500 DOES NOT APPLY TO US.
WE ARE A MEMBER OF THE FLORIDA STATE GOLF ASSOCIATION, AND THIS IS PART OF THINGS THAT THEY DO IF YOU ARE MEMBERS OF THAT.
THE COURSE WILL BE BEING RERATED.
WE ARE GOING TO USE THE EXISTING TEE BOXES.
THERE WILL BE ORANGE MARKERS THAT WILL STAY WHERE THEY ARE, I HAVE BEEN TOLD.
THEN THE COURSE WILL BE RATED FOR MEN FROM THE BLUE, THE WHITE, THE GOLD AND THE RED, AND THEN FOR THE WOMEN, IT WILL BE RATED FROM THE WHITE, THE GOLD, THE RED, AND THE ORANGE.
ANY QUESTIONS THAT MAYBE I COULD ANSWER, FROM WHAT I HAVE HEARD IS THAT PEOPLE ARE BEHIND THIS IDEA.
IF WE START WANTING TO MOVE TEE BOXES AND STUFF LIKE THAT THAT MAYBE HAD BEEN DISCUSSED IN THE PAST, THOSE ARE VERY LARGE EXPENSES TO THE GOLF COURSE THAT WE JUST CAN'T DO RIGHT NOW.
AND WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT MOVING A TEE BOX HERE, IRRIGATION SIDE, BUILDING IT UP, AND WE JUST WE DON'T HAVE THAT MONEY.
SO WE NEED TO PROCEED WITH OUR EXISTING T BOXES.
>> AS FAR AS RATINGS, IS IT JUST JUDGE THE COURSE WHERE IT STANDS, WHETHER IT'S HARDER OR EASIER THAN A STANDARD COURSE?
>> BASICALLY, THEY'RE GOING TO COME OUT.
THEY'RE GOING TO MEASURE EVERYTHING.
IT ACTUALLY HELPS US DEVELOP YOUR GIN NUMBER, YOUR HANDICAP.
THAT'S WHAT THIS IS ALL ABOUT.
WE ENSURE THAT WE HAVE THE PROPER YARDAGES ON OUR CARDS AND MAKE SURE THAT, IF YOU ARE PLAYING FROM THE BLUE TEES, THIS IS THE HANDICAP, THAT'S WHAT IT IS.
>> THEY ESSENTIALLY SEND TWO CAPTAINS, ONE MALE, ONE FEMALE, AND THEY COME WITH A GROUP OF VOLUNTEERS.
THOSE VOLUNTEERS, AS WELL AS THE CAPTAINS PLAY THE COURSE, ALL 27 HOLES, AND THEY WALK IT.
WHAT THEY DO IS, AS YOU SAID, THEY USE THE DISTANCES, THEY USE THE BUNKERS, THEY USE CHANGES IN ELEVATION.
THEY USE THE ANGLES THAT YOU HAVE TO PLAY FROM, AND THEY END UP DEVELOPING A COURSE RATING.
IT'S A PRETTY STANDARD FORMULA THAT THEY USE.
GETTING THE DATA TO PLUG INTO THE FORMULA IS WHAT THEY COME HERE TO DO.
I'M REALLY HAPPY ABOUT THE FACT THAT THEY HAVE THE TWO CAPTAINS ONE MALE AND FEMALE.
[NOISE] OH, THEY'RE CALLING ME RIGHT NOW? WITH ME MY HANDICAPS TOO LOW.
>> THEN YOU BASICALLY TAKE, YOUR GIN NUMBER AND THEN, WHEN YOU GO TO THE OTHER COURSES, THAT'S WHAT GIVES YOU YOUR HANDICAP?
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>> SCOTT, WITH THE NEW RATINGS THAT COME OUT, ARE THEY GOING TO CHANGE THE AGE GROUPS TO SAY WHAT IS LIKE ON WHITE, WHAT AGE GROUP?
>> REALLY IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT IT DOESN'T REALLY MATTER WHAT T YOU PLAY FROM.
THEN WHEN YOU ENTER YOUR SCORE?
>> THAT IS CORRECT. IT DOESN'T MATTER ABOUT THAT, CORRECT.
YOU HAVE A LIKE, I'M GOING TO JUST USE MILLI RIVER.
THAT THE WOMEN'S TEES IS ANYBODY OVER THE AGE OF 65 THAT CAN USE THE WOMEN'S TEES FOR THEIR J SCORES?
BUT BASICALLY, I THINK WHAT IT WOULD BE IS, IF I GO AND I CAN PLAY THE BLUE TEES ONE DAY, I CAN GO PLAY THE RED TEES NEXT DAY AND MY HANDICAPPED IS JUST GOING TO BE.
>> [OVERLAPPING] IS THAT JUST AN INDIVIDUAL COURSE, SOMETHING THE COURSE ITSELF DETERMINES FOR ITS MEMBERS?
>> [OVERLAPPING] I WOULD THINK AT OUR GOLF COURSE, IT'S UP TO THE ASSOCIATION.
>> THAT'S LIKE, I KNOW, I'VE PLAYED AT SOME GOLF COURSES AND I'VE PLAYED IN SOME TOURNAMENTS, AND THEY'LL SAY THE WOMEN OVER 60 CAN PLAY FROM THE MOST FORWARD TEES.
BUT IF YOU'RE UNDER, YOU GOT TO PLAY FROM THIS ONE.
>> I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S AGE RELATED.
IT'S JUST WHAT YOU WANT TO DO.
BUT, I HAVE TO BE HONEST IN OUR LADIES LEAGUE, WE JUST RECENTLY HAVE ONE WOMAN WHO MOVED TO THE ORANGE.
ALL WOMEN PLAY FROM THE RED BY US.
>> ONCE AGAIN, IS AS YOU GO, IF YOU'RE PLAYING FROM THE ORANGE, YOUR HANDICAPPED IS GOING TO BE ADJUSTED BASED ON THE RATING.
>> THAT'S LIKE TWO. I CAN PLAY FROM THE WHITE TEES AT THE RIVER AND I GET MORE STROKES, WHICH IS NICER.
>> I UNDERSTAND THAT. YOU'RE RIGHT.
WHAT I WAS TRYING TO FIND OUT IS, THAT'S A QUESTION THAT A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE ASKING WHEN THEY COME AND THEY'RE VISITING, I'M 65 YEARS OF OLD, WHERE SHOULD I BE PLAYING FROM?
>> I THINK THAT'S BEEN SOMETHING THAT'S MORE OF AN INDIVIDUAL CLUB.
>> PROBABLY IS TWO. [OVERLAPPING] ANYTHING.
JUST BECAUSE YOU'RE 70, THERE ARE 70 YEAR OLDS WHO COULD BEAT THE CRAP OUT OF PEOPLE WHO ARE HALF THEIR AGE, AND THERE'S SOME WHO CAN'T.
>> ONE THING I WANTED TO ADD TO OUR DISCUSSION ITEMS IS THAT I WOULD HOPE THAT YOU GUYS COULD ALL MAKE IT ON MARCH THE 4TH, THE CITY COMMISSION IS GOING TO BE HAVING A WORKSHOP RELATED TO THE GOLF COURSE.
I THINK YOU ALL SHOULD BE THERE.
MARCH OF THE 4TH, IT WOULD BE PRECEDING THE REGULAR CITY COMMISSION MEETING.
JEFFREY AND I WILL BE WORKING WITH THE DEPUTY CITY MANAGER AND THE CITY MANAGER ON MAKING SOME PRESENTATIONS REGARDING THE GOLF COURSE, AND I BELIEVE HOW THE CURRENT CITY COMMISSION VIEWS THE GOLF COURSE.
ANY SUPPORT THAT WE COULD GET FROM YOU, WE WOULD GREATLY APPRECIATE IT.
SURE. MARCH 4TH IN THAT WORKSHOPS AT FIVE O'CLOCK.
ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS REGARDING ANY OF THOSE ITEMS? AS WE PROCEED, AND AS JEFFREY AND I AND PAM, GET A DATE ON THOSE POLLS, WE WILL MAKE SURE WE EMAIL THAT OUT TO YOU.
SO YOU CAN ALSO, OBVIOUSLY, YOU GUYS ARE THERE AT THE GOLF COURSE ALL THE TIME.
YOU CAN LET PEOPLE KNOW AS WELL.
THEN, TOO, AS WE BUILD THE BUDGET, MOVING INTO NEXT YEAR IS, WE'RE GOING TO NEED YOUR SUPPORT ON THE EQUIPMENT JEFFREY AND I AND THE TEAM ARE WILLING TO, HAVE THESE CONVERSATIONS WITH YOU, OUR GOAL IS TO MAKE SURE THAT WE CAN GAIN YOUR SUPPORT AS WE PUSH THROUGH THAT TO CONTINUE TO BETTER THE GOLF COURSE.
>> THANK YOU, SCOTT. ITEM 7, FRIENDS OF FRIEND GOLF CLUB DATE.
[7. FRIENDS OF FERNANDINA GOLF CLUB UPDATE]
>> I CAN JUST SAY A LITTLE BIT.
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>> I'M GOING TO HAVE A ANOTHER APPRECIATION.
THAT WAS NICE. WE'LL DO THE TRIVIA.
I THINK THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE UP AND RAY, TO HAVE MUSIC ORDER LIKE THEY DID LAST. PARDON?
>> SILENT AUCTION. THEY'LL DO ALL THAT THAT THEY DID LAST YEAR.
THE FRIENDS ARE GOING TO HAVE THAT.
I JUST WANT TO SAY TOO, THE NEW TREE UPDATE, AGAIN, THAT'S BEEN PHENOMENAL.
WHAT THEY'VE DONE WITH TRIMMING THE TREES.
THE STAFF OF THE GOLF COURSE, LOOKS LIKE THEY COMPLETED ALL THE CLEANUP ALL THOSE BIG PILES THAT WERE LEFT.
THE FRIENDS COULDN'T GET OUT OF THE WAY DURING THAT WORK PERIOD.
IT LOOKS LIKE THEY WORKED HARD.
IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S OFF THE GOLF COURSE, AND IT'S OUT OF THE PARKING LOT AS WELL. GOOD EFFORTS THERE.
>> JUST MADE PLAY ABILITY SO MUCH BETTER FOR THE COURSE.
>> THE CLEARING, TOO, IT'S GETTING SUNLIGHT AREAS WHERE IT NEVER GOT SUN.
>> WE GREATLY APPRECIATE YOU BRINGING THAT UP AND THE STAFF WANTS TO THANK THE FRIENDS OF THE GOLF COURSE TOO AND EVERYONE THAT WAS INVOLVED IN THE STAFF.
WE STILL HAVE A FEW MORE ROUNDS OF THAT THAT WE HAVE TO DO, AND SO THAT HAS SAVED US A LOT OF MONEY.
LIKE YOU SAID, A GRASS NEEDS SUN TO GROW.
THOSE AREAS WERE BEING OVERTAKEN, AND THAT'S WHY A LOT OF THAT AREA THINS OUT EVEN MORE.
OUR GOAL DURING THIS COMING GROWING SEASON IS TO CONTINUE TO GET FULLER AND FULLER AND FULLER.
THEN AS THE WINTER MONTHS COME, WE'RE NOT GETTING THINNER AND THINNER AND AS THIN AS WE HAVE.
BY TRIMMING THOSE TREES, WE ARE ABLE TO DO THAT.
EVEN SOME AREAS LIKE OH, MAN, SOUTH TOO, JUST TRIMMING THEM OFF THE FAIRWAY A LITTLE BIT, THIS NEXT GROWING SEASON, WE WILL SEE GRASS THAT WILL BE PUSHING BACK OUT A LITTLE FURTHER.
>> A LOT OF THE WOMEN I PLAY WITH CAN'T HIT IT THAT FAR, SO THEY ARE LITERALLY HITTING IT OFF OF DIRT.
BECAUSE THE TREES RIGHT THERE.
I SAW THEY HAD DONE SOME TRIMMING THERE TOO, BECAUSE I MANAGED TO FIND THOSE TREES.
>> WE HOPE TO CONTINUE THAT PROCESS.
ALSO, IF I'M SURE YOU NOTICED THE DEBRIS THAT HAS BEEN JUST BUILT UP INTO THOSE AREAS.
>> OUR GOAL IS TO CONTINUE TO REMOVE THAT TO HELP WITH AIR FLOW AND EVERYTHING.
I DID HAVE ON MY NOTES, AND THAT'S WHY I CAME UP HERE TO SPEAK BECAUSE THE STAFF REALLY DOES WANT TO THANK THE FRIENDS AND EVERYONE WHO WAS INVOLVED IN THAT PROCESS.
IT REALLY IS HELPING THE GOLF COURSE, AND WE WILL SEE IT IN THE SPRING AND THE SUMMER AS WE GO THROUGH OUR NEXT GROWING SEASON.
>> IF I COULD ADD A COMMENT ONTO THAT, AND IS COMPLETELY TANGENTIAL TO WHAT WE'RE DOING TONIGHT.
IF YOU HAVE NOT SEEN A MOVIE CALLED SUNSHINE STATE.
IN THE MOVIE, SUNSHINE STATE NEAR THE BEGINNING OF THE MOVIE, THERE IS A SHOT THAT LASTS MAYBE TWO OR THREE MINUTES FROM THE SECOND T SOUTH, LOOKING OUT TOWARDS THE CENTER OF THE FAIRWAY WITH FOUR PLAYERS.
THE BIG PINE TREE IS STILL THERE.
[LAUGHTER] UNFORTUNATELY, IT'S STILL THERE.
SO I WOULD RECOMMEND ANYBODY WANTS TO AND THERE ARE MANY OTHER SHOTS ON THE GOLF COURSE.
MOVIE IS CALLED SUNSHINE STATE.
>> IT WAS FILMED IN FERNANDINA.
>> YEAH. IT WAS FILMED IN FERNANDINA.
>> YOU COULD NOT THAT I'VE EVER BEEN THERE, BUT SOME OF IT'S IN THE PIRATE BAR, SOME OF IT'S ON CENTER STREET, SOME OF IT'S ON THE WEST COURSE.
>> FOR EXAMPLE, ON SOUTH 2, A YEAR AND A HALF AGO, EVEN ON SOUTH 1 OR TWO YEARS, THERE WAS NO GRASS.
>> THERE WAS NO GRASS ON SOUTH.
I DO THINK THAT THE FRIENDS, ANYTIME WE HAVE THAT CHANCE TO THANK THEM, WE'RE TALKING THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS, SO THE STAFF THANKS THEM GREATLY.
>> THANK YOU, SIR. I GUESS MOVING ON ITEM 8 TO THE MGA UPDATE.
[8. MGA UPDATE]
>> THE NEXT EVENT ON OUR CALENDAR IS A FOREMAN BLIND DRAW.
THAT'S GOING TO BE ON FEBRUARY 15TH, I BELIEVE.
[NOISE] IT'S FOR MEMBERS OF THE MGA.
SO IF YOU'D LIKE TO PARTICIPATE, I SUGGEST, YOU SIGN UP WITH THE TOURNAMENT DIRECTOR.
>> HOW THE LAST TOURNAMENT GO?
>> WENT PRETTY WELL. THANK YOU.
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[9. WGA UPDATE]
WE HAVE HOPEFULLY, WE'LL HAVE OUR TOURNAMENT WITH THE NINE-HOLE LEAGUE, THE PART 3 WITH THE NINE-HOLE LEAGUE IN FEBRUARY, AND WE HAVE OUR MEMBER=MEMBER TOURNAMENT IN MARCH COMING UP.
>> WE'RE GOING TO ITEM 10 STAFF COMMENTS. STAFF UPDATE.
[10. STAFF COMMENTS]
>> I KNOW I SAID THIS, BUT MARCH 4, WE WOULD GREATLY APPRECIATE YOU BEING AT THAT WORKSHOP.
YOU GUYS HAVE THESE IN YOUR PACKETS.
AND JEFFREY PUT THIS TOGETHER AS HE ALWAYS DOES, I THINK, JEFFREY.
SO THE MONTH OF DECEMBER, 07,000 MORE TOTAL REVENUE THAN DECEMBER OF 2023, AND THIS IS WITH NO RANGE REVENUE.
AS YOU REMEMBER, WE SPLIT THAT RANGE REVENUE.
ALSO, SPEAKING OF THAT, SPEAKING OF THE RANGE IS I BELIEVE TOPTRACER'S CONTRACT IS THROUGH FEBRUARY OF 2026.
THAT'S ON MY CALENDAR AS WELL AS MR. GLISSONS CALENDAR AND JEFFREY'S CALENDAR.
SO WE, THE CITY, ARE GOING TO HAVE TO MAKE DECISIONS ON THAT PRIOR TO FEBRUARY OF 2026.
>> WHAT DO WE PAY THEM EVERY MONTH? IT'S ABOUT $2000.
>> I WAS GOING TO SAY ABOUT $2,000.
THE $2,000 IS THE LICENSING FEE.
WE'RE LOOKING AT ABOUT $24,000 IN LICENSING FEES EVERY YEAR.
THAT DOES NOT INCLUDE THE STAFFING THAT YOU HAVE TO HAVE STAFF DOWN THERE.
THEN THAT DOES NOT INCLUDE, LIKE THE DATA THAT IS EXTREMELY EXPENSIVE TO RUN TOPTRACER, MEANING THE INTERNET AND ALL THAT STUFF.
ADDING UP ALL THE EXPENSES, IT ADDS UP TO A LOT.
WE WILL BE BRINGING THAT TO YOU.
BUT THAT RENEWAL IS FEBRUARY OF 2026.
>> THE QUESTION THEN SCOTT, WILL WE HAVE AN ANSWER PRIOR TO THE BUDGET BEING COMPLETED IF WE'RE GOING TO RENEW?
>> A GREAT QUESTION IS WE WOULD HAVE TO BUILD THE BUDGET BASED ON EITHER HAVING IT OR NOT HAVING IT.
>> WE HAVE TWO BUDGETS OR TWO FIGURES.
>> STAFF WOULD PRESENT A BUDGET WITH THE DIRECTION THAT WE WOULD WANT TO GO.
WE WOULD HAVE TO INCORPORATE THE COST IN FOR OCTOBER, NOVEMBER, DECEMBER.
SURE. FOR A FOUR, FIVE MONTH PERIOD AT $2,000 AND THEN AT THAT POINT, IF WE WERE TO NOT HAVE IT, THEN THOSE EXPENSES WOULD GO AWAY.
WE ARE GOING TO ASK YOU THE BOARD FOR SUPPORT IN ONE DIRECTION OR ANOTHER.
BUT WE WILL HAVE TO MAKE THAT DECISION THIS CALENDAR YEAR, AND I WOULD HAVE TO REVIEW THE CONTRACT BECAUSE I BELIEVE THEY HAVE TO HAVE A WRITTEN.
>> I THOUGHT IT WAS HE HAD TO GIVE THEM 90 DAYS PRIOR TO.
>> IF THAT NUMBER RINGS A BELL.
>> THAT WILL BE COMING BEFORE YOU.
THE AVERAGE PRICE FOR GOLF IS $28.47.
I LIKE HOW JEFFREY ALWAYS PUTS THAT IN THERE.
HOPEFULLY, OUR GOAL IS TO CONTINUE TO WORK THAT NUMBER UP A LITTLE BIT.
BUT IT'S TRENDING IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION.
GRANTED, THESE PAST COUPLE OF WEEKS THIS WEATHER HAS BEEN TERRIBLE.
BUT LOOKING AT THE NUMBERS, IT'S TRENDING IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION.
IT WILL BE OUR GOAL TO CONTINUE TO GET MORE AND MORE PEOPLE ON THE GOLF COURSE, AND THAT'S HOW WE'RE GOING TO MAKE REVENUE.
WE BELIEVE IF WE'RE PROVIDING A PRODUCT THAT PEOPLE ARE GOING TO WANT TO USE, WE CAN THEN GET THEM OUT THERE.
GOLF COURSE MAINTENANCE, AS YOU HAD MENTIONED, THANK YOU TO THE FRIENDS OF THE GOLF COURSE.
ALL THAT DEBRIS HAS BEEN REMOVED.
THE MULCH AROUND THE CLUBHOUSE LOOKS REALLY NICE.
I THINK IT'S A GREAT GREAT LITTLE TOUCH.
THEN ONE THING THAT JEFFREY DID PUT ON HERE, AND I WAS NOT AT THIS MEETING, BUT ON JANUARY 14, THE FRIENDS OF THE GOLF COURSE HAD WHERE POSSIBLY ANOTHER CONTRIBUTION FOR A STUMP GRINDER, POSSIBLY.
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I DON'T KNOW IF THAT WAS DISCUSSED OR NOT, SO I APOLOGIZE FOR THAT.AS YOU CAN SEE AROUND THE GOLF COURSES, THERE'S OBVIOUSLY CERTAIN STUMPS AND SO WE ARE IN THE PROCESS, AND THIS IS A GREAT TIME TO DO IT DURING THE WINTER IS REMOVING ALL THOSE.
IT HELPS EVEN IN THE SUMMER WITH MOWING AND SUCH LIKE THAT.
WE'RE WORKING ON THOSE AS WELL.
FAIRWAY MOWERS USED JANUARY 6 FOR THE FIRST TIME.
MUCH MORE CONSISTENT CUT, AND AS THE GRASS COMES BACK AND GROWS, YOU'RE GOING TO NOTICE A HUGE DIFFERENCE ON OUR FAIRWAYS.
FOOD AND BEVERAGE. DECEMBER WAS A CRAZY BUSY MONTH FOR THEM.
THANK YOU TO KRISTIE AND HER TEAM.
32 EVENTS, TOTAL IN DECEMBER, $1000 MORE IN 2023.
TOTAL FOOD AND BEVERAGE REVENUE OF $62,465.
THAT WAS A VERY BUSY MONTH FOR US.
THEN I GUESS ON THE NEXT PAGE, I THINK SOME IMPORTANT ITEMS OF NOTE IS MARKETING AND WHERE WE'RE MARKETING AND HITTING WHO WE THINK IS OUR NICHE AREA, AND MAKING SURE THAT THOSE ARE WHERE OUR MARKETING DOLLARS GO.
THERE IS A FEW MORE ITEMS ON THERE, BUT I THINK YOU GUYS ARE AWARE OF THEM.
WE DO HAVE THIS IS A BIG BASEBALL TOURNAMENT.
A LOT OF LOCAL PEOPLE THAT I KNOW THAT ARE IN THAT, SO THAT'S ALWAYS A BIG TOURNAMENT FOR US.
AND AS THEY COME AND PLAY THE GOLF COURSE AND SEE THE CONDITIONS, ULTIMATELY, THE GOAL IS TO GET THEM TO COME BACK.
ANY QUESTIONS FOR ME AT THIS TIME?
>> GUESS WERE MOVING RIGHT ALONG ITEM 11, BOARD MEMBER COMMENTS.
[11. BOARD MEMBER COMMENTS]
ANYONE HAVE A COMMENT?>> THE ONLY COMMENT THAT I'M GOING TO SAY IS, I HAVE SEEN MORE PEOPLE ASKING TO PLAY AT THE CITY GOLF COURSE LATELY FROM MILL RIVER.
AND I'M JUST SAYING THAT OUT LOUD.
PEOPLE ARE EXPRESSING HOW GOOD IT WAS BEFORE THE SNOW CAME, AND THE WEATHER INTERRUPTED IT, BUT IT DOES HAVE AN INFLUENCE ON HOW MUCH IT HAS IMPROVED OVER THE PAST 6-8 MONTHS.
>> IT'S BEEN PHENOMENAL BECAUSE I HAVE TO SAY WHEN WE DID OUR 27 POLE, WE HAD 108 WOMEN IN OCTOBER, WHICH I DON'T REMEMBER THE LAST TIME IF THEY EVER HAD THAT MUCH.
A LOT OF THE WOMEN WHO PLAYED HAD NOT BEEN THERE IN YEARS AND COULD NOT GET OVER THE CONDITION OF THE COURTS.
THEY UNDERSTOOD SOME OF THE AREAS THAT WERE ROPED OFF.
BUT ACTUALLY, I WENT OUT I THINK IT WAS TUESDAY OR MONDAY AFTERNOON JUST TO PLAY NINE-HOLES, EVEN IN THE WINTER. IT'S GOOD.
>> MARK HAS DONE A PHENOMENAL JOB ON THAT COURSE, ALL OF THE MEN WHO WORKED THERE.
THEY PUT A LOT OF HARD WORK INTO IT.
BUT WE'VE GOTTEN A BIG SURGE OF WOMEN COMING OVER FROM MILLER NATIONAL BECAUSE THEY'RE GOING TO BE CLOSING THEIR COURSE FOR MAINTENANCE FOR SEVERAL MONTHS, AND THEY WERE IMPRESSED WITH THE COURSE AND HOW WELL IT IS.
IT'S NICE TO SEE THAT FERNANDINA IS LOSING ITS REPUTATION.
WHEN YOU INVITE PEOPLE BEFORE, IT'D BE LIKE, OH, FERNANDINA, BUT IT'S NOT LIKE THAT NOW.
PEOPLE HAVE HAD A MUCH MORE POSITIVE RESPONSE.
>> GOING ALONG WITH THAT IS, PLEASE CONTINUE TO GET THAT WORD OUT.
WE HAVE TO DO THIS AS A TEAM AND GET THEM TO COME OUT AND PLAY.
THEY'LL COME BACK ONCE THEY SEE THAT.
THE STAFF REALLY APPRECIATES THAT.
I KNOW JEFFREY CONSTANTLY TALKS TO HIS STAFF ABOUT THAT.
PEOPLE ARE SEEING AND IT'S GOING TO BE OUR RESPONSIBILITY TO CONTINUE TO GET MORE AND MORE PEOPLE OUT THERE BECAUSE WE DO HAVE TO GENERATE THE REVENUE.
>> I JUST WANT TO PUT A PLUG IN FOR THE WELL, BOTH TOURNAMENTS, THE 21ST AND THE 22ND.
IF YOU KNOW PEOPLE THAT WANT TO PLAY IN THOSE TWO TOURNAMENTS, PLEASE, IF I HAD TO PUT IN EMPHASIS ON ONE OR THE OTHER, I'D PUT IN EMPHASIS ON THE 22ND.
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IT'S HELPING OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT IN THEIR FUNDRAISING.THAT IS DEFINITELY A WORTHWHILE TOURNAMENT AND IT'S A FUN TOURNAMENT.
THE NEXT THING IS THAT I'D LIKE TO SAY THAT BABE RUTH IS SUPPORTING.
WE ARE COMING UP, AND NOBODY KNOWS THIS, EXCEPT FOR YOU'LL HEAR IT NOW FOR THE FIRST TIME.
FOOTBALL AND BASEBALL ARE TRYING TO PUT TOGETHER A TOURNAMENT TO BE HELD OUT AT FERNANDINA MUNICIPAL COURSE IN THE COMING MONTHS.
WE'RE PUTTING TOGETHER FOOTBALL COACHES AND THEIR FAMILIES AND BABE RUTH AND THEIR FAMILIES AND HAVE AN OUTING OUT AT THE MUNICIPAL COURSE.
I THINK IT'S A WORTHWHILE THING THAT WE BOTH ARE MEMBERS OF THIS COMMUNITY AND TO GET BACK TO THE COURSE.
THAT'S THAT BANNER. PLEASE, WOULD YOU PLEASE CHECK ON THAT BANNER?
I WAS ON THE RECORD. [LAUGHTER].
>> I THOUGHT YOU WERE SAYING THAT BABE RUTH WAS COMING TO PLAY THE COURSE.
>> THAT WOULD BE QUITE A TRICK
>> I'LL JUST SAY, THANK YOU FOR THE STAFF AND MANAGEMENT FOR THEIR HARD WORK ON BEHALF OF THE GOLF COURSE.
>> WITH THAT, WITH SOMEONE LIKE A MOTION TO ADJOURN.
>> DONE. MEETING IS ADJOURNED.
>> [OVERLAPPING] THANKS AGAIN. SCOTT.
* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.