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>> TESTING.

>> ARE YOU READY?

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>> YEAH.

[1. CALL TO ORDER]

>> I'D LIKE TO CALL THE MEETING FOR DECEMBER THE 10TH, 2024, PARKS AND RECREATION ADVISORY COMMITTEE, REGULAR SCHEDULED MEETING.

CALL TO ORDER, PLEASE.

>> MEMBER SPAULDING.

>> HERE.

>> MEMBER PEARLSTINE.

>> HERE.

>> VICE CHAIR COCCHI.

>> HERE.

>> CHAIR CAMERA.

>> HERE.

>> MEMBER MOUNTJOY.

>> HERE.

>> MEMBER GOLDMAN?

>> MEMBER BORRERO.

>> HERE.

>> PLEASE STAND FOR THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE. GO AHEAD.

>> I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STAND, ONE NATION, UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.

>> ITEM NUMBER 4, APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES FOR NOVEMBER 2024, REGULAR SCHEDULED MEETING.

[4. APPROVAL OF MINUTES]

>> I MOVE TO APPROVE.

>> SECOND.

>> ANY COMMENTS? ALL IN FAVOR?

>> AYE.

>> AYE.

>> AYE.

>> APPROVED.

>> THANK YOU.

>> NO PROBLEM. NUMBER 5.

[5. PUBLIC COMMENT REGARDING ITMES NOT ON THE AGENDA]

PUBLIC COMMENTS REGARDING ITEMS NOT ON THE AGENDA.

>> MR. CHAIRMAN, THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SCOTT MIKELSON, PARKS AND RECREATION DIRECTOR.

IF YOU DON'T MIND, MISS CAMPBELL IS HERE, SHE WOULD LIKE TO INTRODUCE HERSELF TO THE BOARD. IF YOU.

>> THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU, SIR.

>> HI, EVERYBODY. MY NAME IS SARAH CAMPBELL.

I'M YOUR NEW CITY MANAGER AS OF SEVEN DAYS AGO.

IT'S GOING WELL SO FAR, BUT I'M JUST GETTING RAMPED UP.

BUT I JUST WANTED TO POP IN AND SAY HELLO AND PUT NAMES WITH FACES.

I'LL BRIEFLY JUST DESCRIBE THE PARK SYSTEM THAT I'M COMING FROM.

I DO HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF EXPERIENCE IN SOME OF THE THINGS YOU'RE DEALING WITH.

IN THE TOWN OF ORANGE PARK, WE HAD A VERY LARGE REGIONAL PARK WITH PLAYGROUND, PAVILION RENTALS, AND A HISTORIC HOME, AND WE HAD A COOPERATIVE AGREEMENT WITH OUR HISTORICAL SOCIETY TO MANAGE THE HOUSE ITSELF, BUT OUR STAFF TOOK CARE OF THE PLAYGROUND AND THE PAVILIONS.

WE HAD A VERY LARGE SPORTS AND RECREATION COMPLEX WITH NUMEROUS BALL FIELDS AND FOOTBALL FIELDS.

THAT'S A PARTNERSHIP THAT WE LEASED WITH THE ORANGE PARK ATHLETIC ASSOCIATION.

AGAIN, THE PARTNERSHIP WORKING WITH THE BALL FIELDS AND THE GROUPS INVOLVED WITH THAT.

WE HAD A SKATEBOARD PARK.

THE ONLY SKATEBOARD PARK IN CLAY COUNTY WAS IN THE TOWN OF ORANGE PARK, AND WE CONSTRUCTED THAT WITH FRDAP GRANT FUNDS, AND WE HAD VOLUNTEERS THAT RAN THE CONCESSIONS AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

WE HAD A VERY LARGE CONSERVATION PARK, WHICH IS NEW.

IT'S STILL UNDER DEVELOPMENT, BUT WE DID START TO GET SOME GRANT FUNDS FOR THAT AND INSTALL A KAYAK AND CANOE LAUNCH THERE, BUT MORE THINGS COMING DOWN THE PIKE ON THAT ONE.

WE HAVE A HISTORIC CEMETERY, TOO.

IT'S NOT QUITE AS HISTORIC AS YOURS, BUT THE GRAVES AT MAGNOLIA CEMETERY DATED BACK TO THE 1860S.

THEN WE HAD NUMEROUS POCKET PARKS SCATTERED THROUGHOUT THE COMMUNITY MORE LIKE NEIGHBORHOOD; THINGS THAT PEOPLE COULD WALK TO.

I HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF SOME SIMILAR FLAVORS THAT YOU HAVE, BUT I HAVEN'T EVEN GOT TO MEET WITH SCOTT YET OFFICIALLY, SO I'VE GOT LOTS TO LEARN FOR SURE.

BUT PLEASE CONTACT ME ANYTIME IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR IF I CAN BE OF ASSISTANCE.

THAT'S ALL I HAVE. THANK YOU.

>> WELCOME.

>> THANK YOU.

>> GO AHEAD.

[6.1 Special Event Guidelines And Application (Review Guidelines/Application: Recommendation To The Commission Or Possible Workshop Review)]

>> NUMBER 6, DISCUSSION ITEMS, SPECIAL EVENTS GUIDELINES AND APPLICATION.

>> CHAIR CAMERA, I WOULD LIKE TO WELCOME DEPUTY DIRECTOR KAITLYN RIVERA.

SHE'S GOING TO PRESENT THIS ITEM TO YOU TONIGHT.

I HOPE YOU HAVE ALL HAD TIME TO REVIEW IT.

SHE'S GOING TO LEAD YOU THROUGH THIS CONVERSATION. KATIE, IF YOU DON'T MIND.

>> THANK YOU.

>> HI, EVERYONE. IN FRONT OF YOU, YOU HAVE YOUR AGENDA PACKETS.

IN THERE, YOU HAVE EVERYTHING THAT I HAD SENT YOU EARLY TO ASK YOU TO REVIEW.

THE ONLY THING THAT IS DIFFERENT IS, AND IT'S IN YOUR AGENDA PACKET, IS I MADE SOME MINOR CHANGES TO THE APPLICATION; THE WHITE ONE.

THEY'RE VERY MINOR, AND I'M GOING TO GO OVER THEM SO YOU'LL SEE WHAT THEY ARE AS I KIND OF TALK.

BUT YOU ALREADY HAVE THE CHANGES.

THIS PROCESS HAS BEEN A VERY DETAILED COLLABORATION AMONGST MANY DIVISIONS AND DEPARTMENTS WITHIN

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THE CITY ONLY TO ENHANCE WHAT WE ALREADY HAVE AND MAKE IT EASIER FOR STAFF AND ORGANIZERS TO WORK TOGETHER TO ACHIEVE A COMMON PURPOSE.

I'M GOING TO WALK YOU THROUGH HOW WE GOT TO THIS POINT.

THIS PROCESS BEGAN IN NOVEMBER OF 2023.

I TOOK ALL THE SPECIAL EVENTS DOCUMENTS THAT WE ALREADY HAD, AND I CONSOLIDATED THEM INTO AN EASIER ONE DOCUMENT TO WORK OFF OF.

THAT'S HOW WE STARTED.

THEN MYSELF AND KRISTEN, THE SPECIAL EVENTS COORDINATOR, WORKED TO ADD A FEW THINGS TO LIKE MISSING PIECES THAT WE HAD, BUT THEY NEEDED A LITTLE MORE MEAT TO IT.

FOR EXAMPLE, WE ALWAYS REQUIRED FENCING FOR AREAS THAT ALCOHOL WAS SERVED AND SOLD IN, BUT NOW WE HAVE AN EXAMPLE OF THE FENCE WE WANT ORGANIZERS TO HAVE.

WE ARE NOW REQUIRING PARKING PLANS TO BE SUBMITTED WITH APPLICATIONS SO WE CAN SEE WHERE PEOPLE ARE GOING TO PARK.

WE INTRODUCED TOOLS LIKE PERSONNEL STAFFING MATRICES, BATHROOM MATRICES, TO SET CLEAR EXPECTATIONS TO THE ORGANIZERS.

ONCE KRISTEN AND I WENT THROUGH THAT WHOLE PROCESS, WHICH TOOK SOME TIME, WE TOOK THE INITIAL DRAFT FROM PARKS AND RECREATION TO OUR SPECIAL EVENTS COMMITTEE.

OVER A PERIOD OF TIME, WE MET WITH THE SPECIAL EVENTS COMMITTEE THREE TIMES SOLELY ABOUT THIS APPLICATION AND THE GUIDELINES. WE GAVE IT TO THEM.

THEY REVIEWED IT PRIOR.

WE TALKED ABOUT IT, UNLESS THEY WENT HOME, THEY SLEPT ON IT, WE HAD ANOTHER MEETING.

WE REALLY TOOK OUR TIME TO MAKE SURE WE DIDN'T MISS ANYTHING FROM ALL PARTS OF THE CITY.

ONCE WE FELT LIKE WE GOT TO A POINT WHERE WE WERE COMPLETE IN THAT AREA, WE GAVE IT TO LEGAL TO REVIEW, COMPARE WITH THE ORDINANCES, AND THEN REFINE A LITTLE FURTHER.

THEN IT WENT BACK TO THE SPECIAL EVENTS COMMITTEE ONE MORE TIME FOR FINAL REVIEW.

I'M NOT GOING TO HIGHLIGHT EVERY CHANGE WE EVER MADE BECAUSE WE'D BE HERE ALL NIGHT.

BUT I AM GOING TO HIGHLIGHT SOME OF THE CHANGES WE'VE RECENTLY MADE, INCLUDING THE ONES THAT I JUST DISCUSSED WITH YOU SO THAT YOU KNOW WHERE WE STOPPED AND WHERE WE'RE READY TO START IMPLEMENTING THIS APPLICATION.

YOU'LL SEE THAT THERE'S A ROOM MAXIMUM CAPACITY.

THESE ARE WITHIN OUR FACILITIES, WHAT ROOMS YOU CAN USE FOR SPECIAL EVENTS, AND IT TELLS YOU HOW MANY PEOPLE YOU CAN HAVE IN THERE STANDING AND SITTING AND WHAT TABLES AND CHAIRS ARE AVAILABLE IN EACH ROOM.

POLE BANNERS. WE ARE NOW GOING TO HAVE POLE BANNERS RESERVED EXCLUSIVELY FOR THE NINE CO-SPONSORED EVENTS.

WE ARE REQUIRING ATTENDANCE WITH BOUNCE HOUSES.

IF YOU HAVE A BOUNCE HOUSE, YOU HAVE TO HAVE SOMEONE WATCHING THE BOUNCE HOUSE.

WE PUT THE AMPLIFIED SOUND CHART IN THERE FROM THE ORDINANCE.

WE JUST ADDED THAT SO THAT PEOPLE CAN REFERENCE THAT IF THEY HAVE SOUND MUSIC.

WE PUT IN THERE, AND THIS IS IN THE APPLICATION, THAT IF YOU ARE ASKING FOR CONES AND BARRICADES, WE CAN ONLY GIVE YOU 20 OF EACH.

IF YOU ARE REQUESTING MORE THAN THAT, YOU'LL HAVE TO RENT THEM.

THEN FINALLY, I JUST ADDED THE PARADE APPLICATION INTO THE GENERAL APPLICATION, SO IT'S ALL THERE, AND YOU JUST FILL OUT WHAT YOU NEED FOR YOUR EVENT.

NOW, I'M JUST GOING TO OPEN IT UP FOR QUESTIONS.

I DID ASK EVERYONE TO REVIEW IT PRIOR BECAUSE IT IS A LOT.

IF WE FEEL LIKE WE NEED TO MOVE IT TO A WORKSHOP, WE CAN DO THAT AS WELL.

>> WHO WANTS TO START OFF?

>> I PERSONALLY JUST THOUGHT IT LOOKED REALLY GREAT.

LIKE, I COULD TELL THAT YOU GUYS HAD DONE A LOT OF WORK.

THERE WAS A LOT OF DETAIL.

I FELT LIKE IT WAS TO OF WHAT WE WERE WORKING ON WITH THE ARTS APPLICATION.

IT JUST SEEMED LIKE ALL THE INFORMATION WAS THERE EXAMPLES.

IT WAS NICE THAT IT WAS ALL IN ONE APPLICATION PACKET AND ALL SO THEY COULD SEE EVERYTHING.

>> THANK YOU.

>> JUST TO LET YOU KNOW IN THE BEGINNING, I REALLY THOUGHT IT WAS GREAT.

>> THANK YOU.

>> MOVE ON.

>> WAS THERE ANYTHING THAT SET US, NOT SET US OFF, BUT [OVERLAPPING].

>> PRECIPITATED?

>> PRECIPITATED.

>> I TOOK OVER THE ADMINISTRATIVE DEPARTMENT LAST, AROUND THIS TIME, AND I WAS THROWN INTO SPECIAL EVENTS.

I STARTED TO SEE THAT WE COULD DO A BETTER JOB OF WORKING WITH THE ORGANIZERS.

WE HAD THINGS IN ALL DIFFERENT PLACES, A BUNCH OF DOCUMENTS, BUT IT WASN'T ALL IN ONE PLACE.

I STARTED IT AND THEN IT JUST SPIRALED IN A GOOD SPIRAL.

>> I'M ACTUALLY NOT SURPRISED [LAUGHTER].

GREAT. BUT YOU HAD PEOPLE WITH EXPERIENCE GOING BACK THAT THEY COULD POINT OUT THIS MIGHT BE BETTER CLARIFIED OR THIS WAS TO BECAUSE I AGREE.

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I THOUGHT IT WAS A VERY GOOD DOCUMENT.

>> YEAH, THERE'S A LOT HERE [OVERLAPPING].

>> A LOT OF CLARITY IN THE EXAMPLES.

I NOTICED THE EXAMPLE.

>> THANK YOU.

>> IT WAS GREAT.

>> THANK YOU.

>> I DO, AND I HAVE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS.

I ACTUALLY JUST WENT THROUGH THIS PROCESS.

I'VE BEEN WORKING WITH KRISTEN, LAMPADAKIO ON A PROJECT FOR AN EVENT WE'RE HAVING IN JANUARY.

HAVING DONE THIS BEFORE, BEFORE IT WAS ALL TOGETHER, THIS IS FAR AND AWAY, IT'S VERY THOROUGH.

I JUST DID HAVE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS.

ON THE APPLICATION, AND THIS MAY NOT NEED TO BE ADDRESSED.

LIKE FOR INSTANCE WHEN WALLY DOES SOMETHING FOR THE SKATE PARK, THEY'RE 5O1C3.

THE EVENT I'M HAVING, IT'S JUST ME.

I WAS WONDERING IF THERE MIGHT BE A MECHANISM TO BE ABLE TO PAY FOR AN ADDITIONAL INSURED PREMIUM ON THE CITY POLICY FOR SOMEONE WHO DOESN'T HAVE.

I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S POSSIBLE, BUT THAT'S SOMETHING LIKE I'M ABLE TO GET IT, AND I'M HAVING TO BUT IT'S A LOT OF WORK TO SEE IT.

IT MIGHT BE SOMETHING THAT IF OUR INSURANCE PROVIDER OFFERED THAT AS A TOOL, THEN YOU WOULD JUST PAY IT DIRECTLY TO THEM OR TO THE CITY, BUT IT WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT'S EASILY RECEIVED BECAUSE YOU'RE ALREADY DOING BUSINESS WITH THEM.

>> THAT CAN BE SOMETHING I CAN ASK TAMMY.

>> JUST A THOUGHT. AGAIN, IT'S NOT IDEAL BREAKER.

IT'S PROBABLY AN ORGANIZATION WHO HAS THOSE INSURANCE POLICIES ALREADY.

>> TYPICALLY, YEAH.

>> THE OTHER THING THAT I WAS CURIOUS ABOUT, AND THIS MIGHT BE A QUESTION THAT WOULD HAVE TO BE ASKED OF THE PD, BUT LIKE FOR THIS EVENT, WE HAVE BEEN, 60 TO 90 DAYS PRIOR TO GO THROUGH THE PERMITTING PROCESS.

THERE HAVE BEEN INSTANCES, I'M JUST CALLING THEM SPONTANEOUS EVENTS THAT WERE PRECIPITATED, LIKE ONE, FOR INSTANCE, WAS THE GEORGE FLOYD MARCH THAT HAPPENED.

IN AN INSTANCE LIKE THAT, YOU MAY NOT HAVE THE TIMING TO PREPARE FOR SOMETHING TO GET THE PROPER PERMITS.

I WANT TO SAY A FEW YEARS AGO, CHIEF HURLEY WAS STILL HERE.

WHEN WE DID SOMETHING LIKE THAT, YOU CAN HAVE A LOT OF PEOPLE, ESPECIALLY ON THE SIDEWALK, IT'S THE RIGHT TO ASSEMBLE, BUT IF THEN THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE GROWS SO THAT YOU EXCEEDING THE SIDEWALK AND THEN INTO THE STREET, OBVIOUSLY, THAT WOULD PULL FROM POLICE RESOURCES.

I THINK IT'S PROBABLY PRUDENT TO MAYBE AT LEAST WORK WITH THEM TO SEE HOW SOMETHING LIKE THAT THAT MIGHT BE ORGANIZED IN A MATTER OF DAYS.

YOU WOULDN'T WANT IT TO BE A PROBLEM ON THE CITY RESOURCES.

MAYBE WE COULD JUST ASK ABOUT THAT.

>> WELL, SO FOR A MARCH IN PARTICULAR, THAT IT WOULD FALL UNDER PARADE, AND WE DO HAVE SOMETHING ON THE PARADE APPLICATION THAT SAYS WE JUST NEED SEVEN DAYS OF NOTICE, IF POSSIBLE.

THAT'S WHERE I WOULD SEE THAT FALLING AND WE WOULD JUST NOTIFY THE POLICE, TRY TO HAVE A MEETING IF WE CAN OR EVEN A ZOOM CALL.

WE TRY OUR BEST TO WORK WITH EVERY ORGANIZER THE BEST WE CAN.

THAT'S WHERE I WOULD SEE THAT FALLING.

>> I DIDN'T WANT TO USE THE WORD PROTEST, BUT IN MY MIND, I'M THINKING MIGHT BE SOMETHING THAT IS FASTER THAN PLANNING, OF COURSE.

THOSE ARE MY ONLY TWO QUESTIONS ON THE APPLICATION.

ON THE SPECIAL EVENT GUIDE, I HAD, LET'S SEE PAGE 7 ON THE AREA WHERE THE INSURANCE, I KNOW THIS IS GOING TO BE A LIVING DOCUMENT FOR YOU GUYS, BUT ON THE AREA WITH THE INSURANCE REQUIREMENTS, YOU MAY JUST WANT TO PUT SOME ADDENDUM ON THERE THAT SAYS THAT THOSE LIMITS MAY CHANGE OR I DON'T KNOW IF THERE ARE VARIOUS CIRCUMSTANCES THAT REQUIRE OBVIOUSLY, YOU HAVE IN THE AUTOMOBILE AND LIQUOR LIABILITIES.

THERE'S DIFFERENT NUMBERS, BUT JUST SO THAT PEOPLE KNOW THAT THOSE MAY BE SUBJECT TO CHANGE. I DON'T KNOW.

THEN THE LAST THING WAS, I WONDERED IF THERE COULD BE AN ADDENDUM PAGE AT THE VERY END OF THE DOCUMENT THAT TELLS THE RENTAL FEES.

I KNOW THAT'S SOMETHING THAT YOU GUYS ALREADY HAVE, BUT THAT WOULD GET VERY HELPFUL BECAUSE IT'S HARD.

MAYBE YOU'RE WORKING ON THAT ON THE WEBSITE, BUT IT'S SOMETIMES HARD TO DIG THAT.

FEE SCHEDULE OUT.

>> I JUST WORKED WITH MARY HAMBURG, NOT TOO LONG AGO TO FIX OUR FEE SCHEDULE ON THE WEBSITE TO MAKE SURE THAT WE COULD SEE IT ALL AND IT'S EASIER TO FIND.

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I CAN INCLUDE THAT PAGE IN THIS PACKET. JUST HELPFUL.

>> I'M SURE YOU GUYS HAVE TO REDO THIS EVERY YEAR WHEN THERE ARE THINGS JUST TO CLEAN IT UP OR WHATEVER, BUT THAT MIGHT BE HELPFUL.

THAT'S IT. THANK YOU GUYS, YOU DID AN EXCELLENT JOB.

>> THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU.

>> ANYBODY ELSE?

>> ABOUT THE PARADE, THE STARTING TIME WAS SIX O'CLOCK.

IT STARTED A LITTLE BIT LATE.

I WAS OVER ON ASH IN 6:00 AND YOU COULDN'T SEE ANYTHING BY 6:30.

SOME WAY, THEY NEED TO START SOONER SO THEY CAN SEE WHAT'S GOING BY.

>> YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE LIGHT DAY CHRISTMAS PARADE FROM THIS PAST WEEKEND?

>> PARDON?

>> THE LIGHT DAY CHRISTMAS PARADE?

>> YEAH.

>> I CAN RECOMMEND THAT TO THE ORGANIZER TO START EARLIER.

THEY WANT IT TO BE DARK.

SO THAT YOU CAN SEE IT ALL THE WAY

>> IT'S A LIGHTED PARADE AND IT HAS TO BE DARK.

>> IT HAS TO BE DARK TO SEE A LIGHTED PARADE.

>> IT'S A LIGHTED CHRISTMAS PARADE.

>>THAT'S THE JOY OF IT.

>> WE'LL GET YOU A FLASHLIGHT TO PUT ON THE SPOTLIGHT.

>> HOW WAS IT?

>> DO YOU WANT IT?

>> YES.

>> IT WAS ONLY ABOUT FIVE MINUTES, AND THAT'S THE FIRST TIME THAT HAD BEEN IN THE 20 YEARS, NOT TICK OFF DIRECTLY, PRECISELY AT SIX O'CLOCK. FIRST TIME.

>> THAT'S GREAT. THANK YOU.

>> IF NO ONE HAS ANY OTHER QUESTIONS?

>> I HAVE SOME QUESTIONS.

>> OKAY.

>> GO AHEAD, WALLY.

>> NO, I'M GOOD.

>> GO AHEAD.

>> FIRST OF ALL, I'D LIKE TO WELCOME MISS CAMPBELL.

WE APPRECIATE YOU AND THANK YOU FOR BRINGING ABOUT HOW YOUR SKATE PARK IN YOUR TOWN, HOW YOU WERE ABLE TO GET THAT.

I APPRECIATE YOU MENTIONING THAT BECAUSE IT IS IMPORTANT IN OUR TOWN.

AS FAR AS THIS IS FANTASTIC.

YOU, KATIE, AND PARKS AND RECREATION HAVE DONE AN EXCELLENT JOB AT THIS.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU GUYS FOR MAKING THIS.

IT REALLY IS IMPORTANT TO SEE THE EVOLUTION OF THIS APPLICATION WHERE IT WAS EXTREMELY VAGUE, BUT YET BENEFICIAL TO OUR NONPROFIT TO BE ABLE TO PUT IN THESE APPLICATIONS?

>> I DID NOTICE IT, SUBMIT A $25 PROCESSING FEE.

IS THAT ON THE FEE SCHEDULE?

>> THAT WILL BE PLACED ON THE FEE SCHEDULE FOR THE NEXT YEAR.

THAT WILL GO INTO EFFECT UNTIL OUR NEXT FEE SCHEDULE.

>> IS IT A DIFFERENCE IF THIS APPLICATION FEE, LIKE IF THE RIGHT WELL, THEY'RE NOT FROM THIS CITY COMPARED TO SOMEONE WHO IS IN THE CITY PUT IN THE APPLICATION? IS IT NOT GET THAT $25 DISCOUNT FOR BEING PART OF FERNANDINA BEACH?

>> YOU CAN RECOMMEND THAT.

>> I'M RECOMMENDING THAT. HOW ABOUT I RECOMMEND THAT? I UNDERSTAND YOU GUYS WANT TO BE ABLE TO MAKE MONEY, BUT IN THE YEARS, THAT WOULD, FOR US, COME TO CLOSE TO 200 BUCKS, MAYBE WITH ALL THE EVENTS WE HAVE GOING ON.

COMPARED TO ONE COMPANY NOT EVEN FROM FERNANDINA, YOU KNOW WHAT I'M SAYING, WHO WOULD COME IN AND JUST PAY 25, AND THEY'RE FROM ST. PETERSBURG.

>>> JUST SO THAT I'M FOLLOWING, DO YOU WANT TO [OVERLAPPING]

>> SEE IF IT CAN BE WAIVED.

>> FOR CITY ORGANIZATIONS.

>> ORGANIZATIONS THAT ARE PUTTING IN FOR THESE EVENTS COMPARED TO OUTSIDE.

>> OKAY.

>> EVEN IF IT'S [BACKGROUND].

>> RIGHT NOW THERE'S NOT A FEE. IS THAT WHAT [OVERLAPPING]

>> CORRECT.

>> THERE IS NO FEE. RIGHT. I DIDN'T SEE IT ON THE FEE SCHEDULE, SO I WAS WONDERING IF THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT YOU ALL WERE GOING TO BE ADDING.

>> THIS IS JUST A DRAFT, SO WE DIDN'T PUT ANYTHING IN THE FEE SCHEDULE, AND IT WILL GO INTO EFFECT NEXT YEAR IF IT'S NOT IN OUR FEE SCHEDULE RIGHT NOW.

>> ONE OTHER THING, AND I THINK IS REALLY IMPORTANT, IT'S DEAR TO MY HEART IS THAT WE CAN GET THIS IN A SPANISH VERSION.

>> DONE.

>> THE SAME WITH THE APPLICATIONS.

>> DONE.

>> I CAME IN HERE AND THE ONLY THING I FOUND THAT WAS IN SPANISH, AND I DID APPRECIATE IT WAS FROM THE STATE OF FLORIDA.

I THINK THE CITY OF FERNANDINA WITH ALL OUR HISPANICS AND AS BIG AS IT'S GROWING, THAT WE COULD DO THAT ONE LITTLE THING, AND I APPRECIATE YOU SAYING DONE.

BUT TO BE ABLE TO WALK IN HERE AND BE ABLE TO FEEL COMFORTABLE.

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THE STATE OF FLORIDA HAS MADE ME FEEL COMFORTABLE.

[LAUGHTER] BUT I CAN IMAGINE MY OTHER LATINO BROTHERS AND SISTERS WHO ARE AFRAID TO MAKE THAT COMMITMENT TO WALK THROUGH THESE DOORS OR WALK TO THE PARTS OF RECREATION AND TO ASK QUESTIONS AND THEY NOT BE ABLE TO FEEL JUST BY SIGHT, THEY MIGHT UNDERSTAND ME OR I CAN DO SOMETHING ABOUT THIS.

YES, THE SPANISH VERSION, AND THANK YOU FOR SAYING YES TO THAT.

THERE WAS ANOTHER THING IN HERE THAT I WAS READING.

NOW, IT SAYS, THAT YOU MUST ATTACH TO THIS APPLICATION A COPY OF THE FLORIDA CONSUMER EXEMPTION OF YOUR IRS 501 C3 DETERMINATION LETTER.

FOR US, I HAVEN'T SEEN A DETERMINATION LETTER.

WHAT WE HAVE USED IS THE SUNBIZ, AND IT SHOWS WHEN IT WAS UPDATED LAST.

IS THAT THE SAME THING WE'RE GETTING AT?

>> YES.

>> BECAUSE I DID NOT UNDERSTAND.

>> YES, IT IS.

>> WE CAN SUBMIT THAT WITH THE APPLICATION.

WHEN YOU WERE EXPLAINING THINGS, IT WAS HARD TO KNOW IF YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT THIS OR IF YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT THIS AT THE SAME TIME.

I GOT CONFUSED ABOUT SOME OF THE THINGS, SO I WAS TRYING TO LOOK IN HERE TO SEE IF IT WAS IN THERE.

DO YOU MENTION ANYTHING IN HERE, ABOUT WHAT THE FEE WOULD BE FOR THE RENTAL OF THE POLICE, OR IS THAT ON THE FEE SCHEDULE?

>> I DON'T DISCUSS ANY FEES IN THIS.

THE POLICE DEPARTMENT BILLS OUR ORGANIZER SEPARATELY.

THAT'S NOT GOING TO CHANGE.

IT WOULD BE THE SAME WAY WE'RE DOING IT NOW, SO IT'S NOT IN THE FEE SCHEDULE, I DON'T BELIEVE.

>> YOU ALSO SAID SOMETHING ABOUT THE NINE BASES FOR BANNERS OR WHAT WAS THAT?

>> THE NINE CITY CO-SPONSORED EVENTS.

THAT WOULD BE ONLY FOR POLE BANNERS THAT GO DOWN CENTER STREET.

>> THOSE ARE FOR THE ONLY NINE CITY-SPONSORED EVENTS?

>> YES. CORRECT.

>> CO-SPONSORED.

>> SOME ARE CITY-SPONSORED, AND SOME ARE CO-SPONSORED WITH FERNANDINA MAIN STREET.

>> NINE OF THEM.

>> WHAT DID I SAY?

>> SOME.

>> NINE.

>> FOLLOWING THE POLICE SCHEDULE, AND WE JUST HAD THIS MEETING SO I UNDERSTAND, THAT THEIR RATES MAY CHANGE FROM YEAR TO YEAR.

THEY JUST TELL YOU THE NUMBER AND THEN WHEN YOU COORDINATE WITH THEM, THEY TELL YOU WHAT THE RATE IS FOR WHETHER IT'S AN OFFICER OR A SUPERVISOR OR WHAT OTHER DESIGNATIONS THEY HAVE.

>> YES. THEY HAVE A NEW PAY SYSTEM NOW THAT THEY GO THROUGH.

>> I HAVE USED IT.

>> I WAS JUST WONDERING IF YOU MENTIONED THAT IN THE APPLICATION THAT PART OF YOUR APPLICATION IS PAYING FEES TO THE POLICE.

>> WE DID MENTION THAT THERE IS A FEE ASSOCIATED WITH HAVING POLICE OFFICERS, BUT WE DIDN'T PUT THE AMOUNT.

>> IS IT IN THIS PART?

>> IT IS, YES. IT'S IN THE SPECIAL EVENT.

>> PAGE 9.

>> DOES IT HAVE THEIR WEBSITE TO GO TO?

>> IT DOES HAVE.

IT HAS THE FEE SCHEDULE IN THERE, BUT IT DOESN'T HAVE THAT FORUM.

>> YES, I THINK YOU HAVE TO DO THAT BECAUSE I WOULD IMAGINE THAT CHANGES EVERY TIME THEY HAVE[OVERLAPPING]

>> YES. THIS IS WHERE HAVING A SPECIAL EVENT COORDINATOR COMES INTO PLAY BECAUSE EVERY EVENT IS UNIQUE AND SPECIFIC IN ITSELF.

WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT, WE HAVE A GUIDE, BUT THE COORDINATOR IS GOING TO WALK YOU THROUGH YOUR PROCESS IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.

THEY'LL SET UP EVENTS WITH THE POLICE, THEY'LL GET YOU THE FEES THAT YOU NEED.

ALL THOSE THINGS WILL GO THROUGH YOUR COORDINATOR.

>> ONE OTHER QUESTION.

USING THE MARQUEES, SINCE A NONPROFIT CAN'T USE THAT BECAUSE IT'S STRICTLY FOR THE CITY, IS THAT THE NEW?

>> NO. ANYONE CAN USE THE MARQUEES.

>> I THOUGHT YOU SAID IT WAS ONLY THE NINE.

>> POLE BANNERS.

>> THAT'S THE POLE BANNERS.

>> THE POLE BANNERS GOING DOWN THE STREETS?

>> THE POLE BANNER ON THE EIGHTH AND CENTER, I GUESS, THE BIG ONE, [BACKGROUND] THAT ONE IS OPEN TO ANYONE WHO WOULD LIKE TO USE IT AND THE MARQUESS.

>> WHAT WAS THE DECISION ABOUT THE POLE BANNERS? WHY WAS THAT CHANGED?

>> THE POLE BANNERS THAT ARE DOWN CENTER STREET, TAKE A LOT OF STAFF TIME TO CHANGE THOSE IN AND OUT.

THIS PAST YEAR, WE HAVE SPENT A LOT OF THE PARKS DIVISION TIME PUTTING UP POLE BANNERS AND TAKING THEM DOWN.

THEY BREAK IN THE PROCESS AND IT'S TAKEN

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A LOT OF OUR TIME FOR THEM TO ALSO HAVE TO MAINTAIN ALL OF OUR PARKS.

TO MAKE IT EASIER FOR OUR DIVISION, WE HAVE ASKED THAT WE DO THAT.

>> OKAY. BECAUSE THOSE WERE FANTASTIC WAYS TO BRING PEOPLE INTO AN EVENT THAT WAS RIGHT DOWN ON 3RD STREET.

WE SAW THAT THOSE POLE BANNERS WORKED REALLY WELL FOR US.

BECAUSE IT WOULD TAKE PEOPLE FROM THE MARKETPLACE WHO WERE THERE ON SATURDAY DOWN TO THE EVENT THAT WAS SCHEDULED RIGHT DOWN THERE.

THERE WAS ANOTHER REASON FOR THE POLE THING.

EACH ONE OF THOSE IS THE SAME SIZE, AND MAYBE THAT WAS ANOTHER ISSUE BECAUSE WE HAD ORDERED ONE SPECIFIC SIZE AND THEN THERE WERE LIKE EIGHT OR NINE OF THEM THAT WE COULD NOT USE BECAUSE THEY WOULD NOT FIT.

DO YOU KNOW IF THEY'RE GOING TO BE ADJUSTING THAT?

>> WE GIVE THE SPECS, TO THE ORGANIZERS EXACTLY THE SAME.

IT DEPENDS ON WHO YOU USE AS TO HOW YOUR BANNER IS MADE.

I DON'T KNOW SPECIFICALLY, BUT THAT BAR IS THE SAME ON EVERY POLE.

IT'S REALLY THE ENDING OF THE BAR THAT WE STRUGGLE WITH.

>> NO. THERE WERE SOME THAT WERE THREE INCHES AND THERE WERE SOME THAT WERE AN INCH, AND THAT'S DEFINITELY AN ISSUE.

BUT THAT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH PARKS AND RECS I IMAGINE, THOUGH.

>> YES. THOSE POLE BANNERS, OBVIOUSLY, ARE OLDER.

THERE USED TO BE AN ACTUAL BALL AT THE VERY END OF EACH ONE OF THOSE POLES.

WE HAVE GOTTEN PRICES AND IT'S EXTREMELY EXPENSIVE TO HAVE THOSE FABRICATED AND THEY HAVE BEEN CHANGED.

SOME OF THEM ARE THE THICKER ONES, AND SOME OF THEM ARE THE SMALLER ONES.

BUT ONCE AGAIN, WE ARE ASKING FOR THIS AS A DEPARTMENT.

IF THERE IS AN ISSUE, WE CAN STATE THAT THAT IS ONE OF THE PREC'S CONCERNS AS WE GO THROUGH THIS PROCESS.

IT HAS TAKEN A LOT OF TIME.

THERE ARE MANY POLE BANNERS.

I DON'T KNOW THE NUMBER OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD.

BUT ON A WEEKLY BASIS, WHEN THEY'RE COMING UP AND DOWN, IT DOES TAKE A LOT OF TIME, SO THAT IS WHAT THE DEPARTMENT IS ASKING FOR.

>> THE FEE FOR THE BANNERS ON THOSE POLLS DOWNTOWN IS WAY MORE THAN ANY OTHER PLACE ADVERTISED IN THIS PLACE.

I THOUGHT THAT THAT WAS THE REASON THAT YOU WERE MAKING THAT EXTRA MONEY TO PAY FOR THAT EXTRA TYPE OF LABOR.

BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW WHAT IT IS, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU HAVE THAT FEE ON THERE.

BUT FOR THE DOWNTOWN BANNERS, THEY WERE REALLY EXPENSIVE.

I REMEMBER US SPENDING SOME MONEY ON GETTING THOSE SPECIFICALLY BECAUSE THAT WAS THE ONLY PLACE YOU COULD ADVERTISE.

THAT REALLY MEANT SOMETHING COMPARED TO A MARQUEE AT THE BEACH.

IF THIS IS STILL IN THE AIR, I THINK THAT IT'S A BAD DECISION THAT IT JUST SHOULD BE THE CITY.

I THINK IT SHOULD BE OFFERED TO ALL NONPROFITS OR ANYBODY WHO'S HAVING AN EVENT DOWNTOWN.

>> IS IT A SERVICE THAT COULD BE PAID? TWO QUESTIONS.

IS IT A PERSONNEL RESOURCE OR A COST RESOURCE?

>> WE PUT OUR OWN UP BY OURSELVES AND WE DID FORGET TO TAKE IT OFF, THE CITY TOOK IT OFF.

WE PUT OUR OWN UP BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW HOW THERE WAS A MIX-UP FOR THE HISPANIC HERITAGE FESTIVAL, AND WE DIDN'T TAKE THEM DOWN.

THE CITY TOOK THEM DOWN.

WE WERE GOING TO TAKE THEM DOWN THAT DAY.

I DIDN'T UNDERSTAND THE PROCESS OF THE TIME TO WHEN IT GETS OFF.

I WAS READY TO COME BACK AND TAKE THEM ALL OFF AS WELL, BUT THEY WERE ALREADY TAKEN OFF BY THE CITY.

>> WE DO NOT WANT OUR ORGANIZERS TO INSTALL WHOLE BANNERS OR BANNERS OR ANYTHING WITHOUT THE GREEN LIGHT FROM OUR DEPARTMENT JUST FOR SAFETY.

>> I DON'T KNOW HOW THAT HAPPENED, BUT WE GOT NO NOTIFICATION TO TURN IN THOSE BANNERS.

IT WAS THE DAY BEFORE, ACTUALLY.

BUT REMEMBER, THERE WAS A HURRICANE, AND THE HURRICANE HIT TAMPA.

IT WAS A HUGE EVENT.

WE WERE SHUT DOWN MAYBE A DAY OR TWO IN THE CITY.

>> FOR THE FUTURE, CHRISTINE IS PRETTY GOOD AT MAKING SURE THAT SHE IS IN CONTACT WITH THE ORGANIZERS.

MAYBE THE HURRICANE WAS THE REASON FOR THAT.

>> I THINK SO BECAUSE I THINK YOU GUYS STILL DIDN'T KNOW THE DECISION TO CONTINUE WITH ANY EVENTS THROUGHOUT THE CITY AT THAT TIME.

>> WHEN WE HURRICANE PREP, WE TAKE EVERYTHING DOWN.

WE TAKE ALL BANNERS DOWN.

WE TAKE SOMETIMES SUNSHADES DOWN.

THAT COULD HAVE BEEN PART OF IT THAT WE WERE NOT GOING TO GO FORWARD WITH YOUR BANNER BECAUSE OF THE HURRICANE PREP, AND IT FELL ON A WEEKEND, SO OUR STAFF COULDN'T COME IN AND PUT THEM UP.

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>> THAT'S WHAT I WANT TO SAY IT WAS, BUT WHAT I WANT TO THINK IS THAT THEY SHOULD STILL BE AVAILABLE FOR OTHER GROUPS OTHER THAN THE CITY.

THAT'S NINE EVENTS YOU'RE SAYING.

IN A 12-MONTH PERIOD, YOU'VE GOT TO BE ABLE TO CAPTURE THAT.

THAT'S A GOOD WAY TO MAKE SOME MONEY, FIRST OF ALL, AND STILL ALLOW.

>> IF THE COMMITTEE DECIDES TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS TONIGHT TO PUSH IT ON TO COMMISSION, WE CAN INCLUDE THAT RECOMMENDATION.

>> I WOULD THINK IF WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE TO OFFER THAT TO ANYONE THAT PART OF WHAT WE'RE DOING WITH THESE SPECIAL EVENTS IS THAT IT COVERS THE COST.

THE CITY IS NOT IN THE BUSINESS OF DOING THINGS FOR FREE.

AT LEAST IF THAT'S AN OPTION FOR PEOPLE THAT IT'S COVERING WHAT THE COST IS BECAUSE WHAT WE HAVE TO PAY OUR STAFF IS FOR THE REGULAR COURSE OF BUSINESS.

THESE ARE SPECIAL EVENTS THAT PEOPLE ARE INITIATING ON THEIR OWN AND SHOULDN'T, TO ME, BE THE BURDEN OF THE CITY TAXPAYERS, RESIDENTS, WHATEVER.

>> THAT'S WHAT I WAS SAYING. WHAT WOULD BE A REASONABLE PRICE TO RAISE IT TO WHERE IT'S COVERING YOU GUYS' COSTS IF WE WANT TO RECOMMEND THEY KEEP DOING IT, AND THAT ORGANIZATIONS, IF THEY DON'T WANT TO PAY THAT MUCH, THEY WON'T PAY IT AND WE WON'T HAVE TO DO AS MANY, OR IF THEY WANT TO PAY FOR IT, AT LEAST IT'S MAKING IT SO THAT IT'S NOT SO HARD ON YOU GUYS, THAT IT'S COVERING HAVING SOMEBODY COME IN AND DO IT?

>> WE WOULD HAVE TO SIT DOWN AND REALLY THINK ABOUT WHAT IT WOULD COST.

WE ONLY HAVE SO MANY PARK CREWS.

NOT EVEN DISCUSSING MONEY, IT TAKES A SOLID 3-4 HOURS AWAY FROM THEM.

>> I WOULD THINK TOO. WE HAVE STUFF EVERY WEEKEND, MULTIPLE EVENTS.

AT SOME POINT, WE MAY GET OVERLOADED WITH DEMAND.

THEN IS IT A FIRST COME, FIRST SERVE? HOW LONG DOES IT STAY THERE? THEN IT MAY AT SOME POINT BECOME WATERED DOWN OR INEFFECTIVE. I DON'T KNOW.

>> THAT WAS ANOTHER QUESTION, AND I THINK YOU'RE BRINGING THAT UP.

HAVING THAT BANNER OUT ON CENTER STREET, THE 1/8, THE PROCESS OF THAT BECAUSE WE HAD PUT AN APPLICATION A YEAR IN ADVANCE TO TRY TO GET THAT BANNER, AND SOMEONE BEAT US BY A WEEK TO GET THAT BANNER FOR THAT ROAD.

>> THAT BANNER IS A HOT COMMODITY.

>> IT IS. [LAUGHTER]

>> PEOPLE BOOK OUT FAR IN ADVANCE.

WE TAKE IT BY APPLICATION.

IF YOU TURN YOUR APPLICATION IN, ONCE IT GETS APPROVED, THAT GETS RESERVED FOR YOU.

>> WHAT I'M SAYING IS, THAT I'M DOING IT A YEAR IN ADVANCE AND THAT I THINK PART OF THE APPLICATION IS RIGHT.

>> SO IS EVERYONE ELSE, SADLY. IT'S SCARY.

>> IS THERE ANYBODY PUTTING THEM IN BEFORE THEN?

>> NO. WE DO NOT TAKE THEM BEFORE A YEAR IN ADVANCE.

IF SOMEONE TURNS IT IN BEFORE A YEAR, WE TELL THEM THAT THEY CAN'T.

OCTOBER SPECIFICALLY IS THE MOST POPULAR MONTH FOR SPECIAL EVENTS, AND I THINK THAT'S WHY YOU WENT THROUGH A LITTLE BIT OF A STRUGGLE FOR THAT BANNER.

>> YES, IT WAS. AGAIN, WE'RE FIGHTING TO TRY TO GET THAT ONE DOWN THERE.

IF YOU'RE TAKING AWAY THE ONE DOWN CENTER STREET WE'RE WILLING TO PAY TO GET THOSE DOWN ON CENTER STREET.

THAT'S THE HIGHEST COST OUT OF ANY TYPE OF ADVERTISING IN OUR CITY AS FAR AS OUR NONPROFIT IS CONCERNED, GETTING BANNERS UP.

>> CAN YOU SCROLL UP, PLEASE, ON THIS IF YOU DON'T MIND? [OVERLAPPING]

>> COULD YOU FIND AN INDEPENDENT CONTRACTOR? [BACKGROUND] THEY HAVE TO GO DOWN TO THE ORGANIZATION HAS TO PAY TO DO IT, THAT WAY, IT'S NOT TAKING OUR STAFF COST.

>> THAT'S WHY I WAS WONDERING IF LIKE COASTAL ELECTRIC THEY DO [OVERLAPPING],.

>> THEY GOT A CONTRACT WITH THEM AND THEY'RE LIKE 250 BUCKS PLUS WE CHARGE $50 A POLE FOR OUR LIABILITY.

IF YOU WANT TO PAY IT, YOU CAN PAY IT.

[BACKGROUND] AND IT DOESN'T TAKE ODD HOURS [OVERLAPPING]

>> YOU'RE SAYING IT'S EXPENSIVE TO HAVE THEM MADE.

>> ABSOLUTELY.

>> YES. IT'S COST $15 TO PUT THEM UP RIGHT NOW, FOR THE CITY $15.

>> WOULD THERE BE A WAY LIKE SHEILA MENTIONED AT FIRST TO HAVE [OVERLAPPING] SOMEBODY THAT YOU GUYS HAVE AS AN INDEPENDENT CONTRACTOR, SHE MENTIONED AN ELECTRICAL COMPANY TO BE RESPONSIBLE FOR DOING THAT.

IF I CAN DO IT AND I WANT TO PUT THEM UP FOR MY EVENT, YOU SAY, SURE, YOU CAN CHARGE ABC ELECTRICAL COMPANY, WE'LL CHARGE YOU $250.

THAT'S THEIR FEE FOR DOING IT, AND THEN IF YOU GUYS STILL NEED A FEE TO COVER IT FOR INSURANCE OR WHATEVER, THAT WOULD BE FINE.

BUT THEN IF THE ORGANIZATION WANTS TO PAY IT, GREAT, BUT YOU GUYS COULD GET IT TO HAVE A SUB WHERE YOU GUYS DON'T DO IT.

ONE OF YOUR LICENSED PEOPLE KNOWS THEY'RE GOING TO DO IT WHEN SOMEBODY WANTS IT. IS THAT AN OPTION?

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>> I THINK TO US, TO THE PARKS AND RECREATION DEPARTMENT. IT'S NOT A MONEY THING.

>> BUT IT WAS ME YOUR TIME EITHER THEN.

>> RIGHT. I BELIEVE IN THIS SITUATION, I DON'T THINK LIKE THE ELECTRICAL COMPANY OR I BELIEVE THAT'S WHAT YOU [OVERLAPPING]

>> ANY SUBCONTRACTOR THAT YOU HAVE.

>> THEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THEM ADDING, THEY'RE DOING WORK ON CITY PROPERTY.

THEY'RE ADDING US TO THEIR INSURANCE.

I'M NOT SURE IF THAT WOULD WORK.

IT'S AN IDEA. THIS IS OUR RECOMMENDATION BASED ON A TIME ISSUE.

>> IF YOU AS THE ADVISORY BOARD, WANT US TO SAY, YOU REALLY LIKE THIS, YOU LIKE IT, ONE OF YOUR CONCERNS IS THIS POLE BANNER ISSUE.

WE CAN TAKE THAT TO THE NEXT STEP AND SAY, LISTEN, PARKS AND RECREATION ADVISORY COMMITTEE LIKES THE GUIDELINES, THE APPLICATION.

THEIR ONE CONCERN IS THAT OR IF THERE AT LEAST AS OF NOW, THEIR ONE MAIN CONCERN IS THE POLE BANNER QUESTION.

THEY WOULD LIKE TO KEEP IT, I GUESS, THE WAY I'M READING THIS IS AS IT IS, OR POSSIBLY NONPROFIT CITY ORGANIZATIONS HAVE THAT OPPORTUNITY TO USE THOSE POLE BANNERS AS WELL.

>> WELL, THEY WANT TO PUT A CAP ON HOW MANY A MONTH WE'RE ALLOWED TO BE DONE.

THEN WHEN YOU GOT THIS NUMBER OF APPLICATIONS, THAT'S HOW MANY TIMES YOU CHANGE IT A MONTH.

>> I WAS GOING TO ASK WHAT'S THE TIMING WORK? IF YOU'RE THE SHRIMP FESTIVAL, I GUESS THEY PUT UP ONE, RIGHT? HOW LONG ARE THEY UP?

>> WE DO IT FOR A WEEK.

>> MONDAY TO MONDAY.

>> YOU POTENTIALLY HAVE 52 OPPORTUNITIES.

>> CORRECT.

>> TO DO THIS.

>> FIFTY TWO.

>> WITH THE NINE, IF YOU'RE ONLY USING THE NINE EVENTS AS A THING, THEN THERE'S NOTHING ON THE POLES OR THERE'S ONLY THE NINE THINGS ON THE POLE.

WHERE POTENTIALLY IF WE DID SOME AND I'M JUST SAYING, IF WE DID THIS AS A HIGHER FEE, WHERE THE CITY COULD ACTUALLY MAKE MONEY ON THAT, WE COULD POTENTIALLY HAVE 52-9, 43 OPPORTUNITIES THAT WE COULD CHARGE PEOPLE IF THEY WANTED TO.

BUT I WOULD SUGGEST THAT WE HAVE IT SO THAT IT COVERS THE TIME LABOR AT LEAST SO THAT IT'S A NET EFFECT.

>> BUT I THINK THAT'S THE STRUGGLE.

I'VE BEEN HELPING TO ORCHESTRATE PARKS FOR THE PAST FIVE MONTHS.

WE ARE STRAPPED. EVEN WITH A FULL STAFF, WE CAN'T PHYSICALLY GET EVERYTHING DONE EVERY WEEK WITH ME EVEN HELPING SOME WEEKS, SCOTT GETTING IN THERE AND HELPING.

IT'S ONE OF THOSE THINGS TO US THAT IT'S A BALANCE OF IF WE LIMIT IT IN SOME WAY, WE'LL STILL BE ABLE IT'S MEASURABLE, WHERE WE CAN STILL ADDRESS OUR BANNERS.

>> I WAS IMAGINING IT IN A WAY THAT THE COST IS MAYBE I WOULDN'T SAY PROHIBITIVE TO KEEP PEOPLE FROM DOING IT, BUT IF SOMEBODY REALLY WANTED TO DO IT TO DO THE BANNERS AS A WAY OF ADVERTISING OR SOMETHING THAT'S MEANINGFUL TO THEM, THAT THEY WOULD GO TO THAT EXPENSE, WHERE IT WOULD AT LEAST BE PROFITABLE.

I DON'T KNOW THAT YOU WOULD HAVE IT FOR EVERY SINGLE WEEK THAT THAT WOULD BE REQUIRED.

BUT IT DOES OPEN THAT UP TO I GUESS WAYS THAT IT COULD BE DONE.

BUT IT'S NOT ENCOURAGING PEOPLE TO JUST LIKE, IT'S 100 BUCKS, SO LET'S DO THIS AND IT'S PAIN. THAT MAKES ANY SENSE.

>> THIS IS SOMETHING THAT I THINK IT'S LIKE THAT BALANCE.

WE WANT OUR PARKS TO BE BEAUTIFUL.

WE WANT OUR CREWS TO BE OUT THERE, AND THIS WAS SOMETHING I'VE NOTICED THAT WE SPEND SO MUCH TIME ON. IT WAS ONE OF THOSE.

>> BECAUSE TO THOSE NINE EVENTS, ARE THEY SPACED OUT? BECAUSE MY SUGGESTION TO THAT IS IF THOSE EVENTS ARE THAT BIG AND THAT YOU'RE OFFERING THIS AS A PART OF THEIR EVENT, SOMETHING THAT WE'RE OFFERING, WHY WOULD YOU JUST DO IT FOR A WEEK? FOR A MONTH BEFORE SHRIMP FESTIVAL, PEOPLE ARE DO YOU KNOW WHAT I'M SAYING?

>> EXACTLY.

>> IT WOULD BE LONGER AND MORE IMPACTFUL FOR THE NINE EVENTS THAT YOU'RE CHOOSING.

>> THAT IS A GOOD POINT. THEY ARE FAIRLY SPREAD OUT.

I THINK DICKENS AND THE SHRIMP DROP ARE THE CLOSEST TOGETHER, AND MAYBE TWO IN OCTOBER, I DIDN'T WRITE THAT DOWN.

>> MAYBE SOMETHING LIKE THAT OR IS THAT IT'S A LONGER TERM BECAUSE I GUESS I'VE NEVER NOTICED THAT THEY WERE JUST THERE FOR A WEEK.

>> SEVEN DAYS. THAT FEE THOUGH OF HANGING EACH ONE AT $15 PER POLE, AND THERE'S 34.

[00:40:07]

>> I BELIEVE 32 OR 34, YES.

>> THAT'S 510 BUCKS ALREADY JUST FOR THE HANGING FEE PLUS THE $75.

IF YOU'RE DOING THE BANNER, THAT'S YOU'RE ALMOST IN 600 BUCKS AS, ANYBODY WHO'S GOING TO PUT ON A BENT.

THE COST OF MAKING EACH ONE OF THOSE BANNERS IS LIKE $40-$50 EACH.

ADDING UP IT'S ALREADY COST US. [OVERLAPPING]

>> MAYBE IT'S TWO WEEKS INSTEAD OF ONE WEEK SO YOU DIMINISH THEIR FREQUENCY THAT YOU WOULD SO INSTEAD OF NOW 52 OPPORTUNITIES TO CHANGE IT OUT, WE'RE DOWN TO 26 DON'T MAKE ME DO A LOT OF MATH,26 IN A YEAR.

>> I THINK THAT WHAT WE'LL DO IS WE'LL BRING THESE RECOMMENDATIONS TO THE COMMISSION WITH THE APPLICATION.

WHEN SCOTT GETS UP BECAUSE I'M NOT GOING TO DO THIS TO THE COMMISSION AND SPEAKS ABOUT THIS, HE WILL MENTION THOSE THINGS.

>> I DON'T MEAN TO INTERRUPT YOU.

BUT I THINK WHAT I'M HEARING IS THAT YOUR ONE MAIN CONCERN IS THE POLE BANNERS.

AS WE PRESENT THIS, I WILL WORK WITH SARAH AND JEREMIAH AND SAY THIS WAS ONE OF THEIR MAIN CONCERNS.

THEY WOULD LIKE FOR US, PARKS AND RECREATION IN THE CITY TO FIGURE OUT HOW WE CAN MAKE THIS HAPPEN.

>> WELL, YOU SAID WHAT I WAS GOING TO ASK, IS THERE A WAY TO PARTNER WITH THE CITY TO SHARE THE LOAD?

>> THE EXPENSE.

>> THE EXPENSE THE TIME, IS THERE ANYONE ANY WAY TO THE CITY?

>> IT FALLS UNDER PARKS AND RECREATION RESPONSIBILITY.

WE DO THAT WE DO THE BANNER AT ETHAN CENTER.

WE WE DO THOSE.

>> I JUST WANT TO ADD COUPLE OF THING.

>> [INAUDIBLE] PERSON.

>> WELL, AND ONE LAST THING IS WE ALSO NEED TO MAKE SURE AS WE'RE DOING THE REVITALIZATION OF DOWNTOWN WITH NEW LIGHT POLES AND WHEN ALL THAT COMES, WHAT ARE THOSE LIGHT POLES GOING TO LOOK LIKE.

ARE WE GOING TO HAVE, AND THIS IS ONE THING THAT I'M IN COMMUNICATIONS WITH IS IF PEOPLE DO LIKE THESE POLE BANNERS AND WE WANT TO CONTINUE TO DO THAT, THEN WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT THOSE NEW LIGHT POLES EITHER HAVE POLE BANNERS THAT ARE MAYBE A LITTLE BIT HIGHER SO PEOPLE ARE DOING PULL UPS ON THEM.

>> IS THAT HAPPENING?

>> YES.

>> DEFINITELY.

>> BIG TIME.

>> WE NEED TO HAVE THAT CONVERSATION AS WITH WHAT LIGHT POLES THAT WE DO HAVE DOWN THERE.

THAT COULD ADDRESS SOME OF THE MAINTENANCE THAT NOW, IT'S GOING TO BE HARDER FOR US TO HANG THEM.

>> THAT'S PRETTY SOON THOUGH, IS IT NOT? THE LIGHT IN THAT PROJECT IN THE NEXT TWO YEARS?

>> WELL, HOPEFULLY, YES.

>> I WAS THINKING IT WAS SOON.

BUT DO WE HAVE A BUCKET? DO WE HAVE A BUCKET TRUCK OR A SER LIP THAT WE OWN?

>> WE HAVE SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

YES. THAT'S HOW YOU ALL DO THAT.

>> VERY DIFFICULT IN DOWNTOWN AREA.

>> WITH PARKING?

>> YEAH. RIGHT NOW WE'RE ABLE TO USE LADDERS DEPENDING ON THE HEIGHT OF THE INDIVIDUAL.

>> THE HEIGHT OF THE INDIVIDUAL NOT THE POLE I'M RESPECTING THE POLE.

[LAUGHTER].

>> VERTICALLY CHALLENGED PEOPLE.

>> ON HANGING THE BANNERS.

>> IT'S EASY.

>> WE SHOULD DISCRIMINATE [LAUGHTER] IF A MAJOR WANTS TO PUT A POLE BANNER.

>> WE'LL HAVE A LADDER FOR THEM.

>> YEAH.

>> DID YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR ARE WE? TOM READY.

>> WALLY I TOTALLY UNDERSTAND THE NONPROFIT PART OF HOW THE EXPENSES ARE, THAT OCCUR WHEN WE PUT ON EVENTS FOR NON PROFIT ORGANIZATIONS.

BUT THERE'S ALSO AND I'VE SEEN IT WHERE LET'S JUST TAKE THE HURRICANE SITUATION THAT WE WERE UNDER WE HAVE ALMOST 45 BANNERS ON THE FENCES.

THOSE 45 BANNERS IS THE RESPONSIBILITY OF BABE RUTH.

IT'S OUR RESPONSIBILITY TO TAKE THEM DOWN BECAUSE WE HAVE TO PRESERVE THEM AND SO WE CAN PUT THEM BACK UP.

WELL, I'M GOING TO SAY THIS TO YOU.

THERE WAS PROBABLY 15 OR 16 BANNERS FOR FOOTBALL THAT WERE NOT TAKEN DOWN, BUT WAS TAKEN DOWN BY THE CITY.

[00:45:02]

THEY WERE THERE FOR ALMOST TWO HOURS, THREE PEOPLE FOR TWO HOURS, PULLING DOWN BANNERS, AND ROLLING THEM UP, PUTTING THEM AWAY FOR SAFE KEEPING.

WHO BENEFITED THE FOOTBALL BECAUSE THEY GOT THEIR BANNERS WITHOUT BEING TORN UP.

BUT IT COST THE CITY X AMOUNT OF DOLLARS TO KEEP THREE PEOPLE THERE TO ENSURE.

WE HAVE TO BALANCE THERE'S A BALANCING ACT OF COST.

>> WE WOULD PUT THEM UP OURSELVES.

>> WE PUT THEM OURSELVES.

>> NO, I'M SAYING, WE WOULD PUT THEM UP OURSELVES IF YOU'RE TRYING TO COMPARE IT TO THE CENTER STREET.

>> I GET IT.

>> THAT'S THE DIFFERENT.

>> BUT THE BOTTOM LINE IS, IT'S STILL A COST FACTOR.

ANYWAY YOU LOOK AT IT AND WE NEED TO EMBODY.

WE NEED TO ENSURE WHEN WE DO THINGS, WE HAVE THE CITY UNDERSTANDING THAT EVERY TIME WE TOUCH SOMETHING, IT COSTS MONEY.

WHETHER IT DOESN'T LOOK LIKE IT'S PHYSICAL MONEY, BUT IT'S COSTING US.

WE NEED TO BE MAKING SURE THAT WE DO THE RIGHT THINGS FOR THE CITY, EVEN THOUGH IT COST US MONEY, A LOT MORE THAN WE ANTICIPATED.

I GET IT. SECOND OF ALL, REAL QUICKLY, I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR THIS.

THIS IS THE START OF SOMETHING THAT'S BEEN WELL NEEDED AND FOR EVERYBODY, SO EVERYBODY'S ON THE SAME PAGE.

EVERYBODY READS THE SAME THING, UNDERSTANDS THE RULES ARE THE SAME, AND EVERYBODY CAN APPLY THEIR, "GUESS WHAT"? APPLICATIONS. EVERYBODY GETS THE SAME APPLICATION.

EVERYBODY GETS THE SAME TREATMENT AND THE SAME THING APPLIES FOR EVERYBODY AND THAT'S WHAT I RECOMMEND HIGHLY.

I THINK WE SHOULD GIVE THE PARKS AND REC THE ABILITY TO GO IN FRONT OF THE COMMISSION WITHOUT THE FEE SCHEDULE AND MAKE IT AN SUBTYPE OF TRYING TO THE RIGHT WORD.

>> RECOMMENDATION.

>> A RECOMMENDATION OF WHAT THE FEE SCHEDULE IS.

BUT THE BODY OF THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT WE NEED.

I DON'T THINK WE NEED TO CHANGE ANYTHING IN THE BODY UNLESS SOMEBODY COMES UP WITH SOMETHING SPECIFIC THAT SHOULD BE CHANGED IN THE BODY OF THE FOR THE SPECIAL EVENTS GUIDE.

>> DOES THE GUIDE HAVE THE FEE OF THE CHARGE OF $25 IN HERE?

>> NO. IN THE GUIDE, WE TRY NOT TO DISCUSS FEES UNLESS WE'RE RECOMMENDING FOR INSURANCE FOR THE REASON OF NOT CHANGING IT SO OFTEN.

THE FEE SCHEDULE CHANGES EVERY YEAR.

WE WILL REFERENCE THE FEE SCHEDULE.

I ACTUALLY THINK THAT WAS A GREAT RECOMMENDATION TO JUST INCLUDE IT.

THAT'S JUST AN EASY PAGE I CAN ADD AND REMOVE AS THE YEARS GO ON.

>> I DO THINK THE DOCUMENT IS VERY THOROUGH, BUT I WOULD LIKE A CLARIFICATION IF THE INSURANCE CAN BE IF THAT'S SOMETHING THAT CAN BE DONE THROUGH THE CITY, BECAUSE AGAIN, VERY SIMPLE.

THAT I THINK THAT SHOULD BE SOMETHING THAT'S OFFERED IN HERE IF THAT'S A THING.

DO YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN, THAT THAT SHOULD BE PART OF THE DOCUMENT?

>> YES AND I MADE A NOTE TO ASK HIM.

>> THANK YOU. TO YOUR POINT, I WOULD SUPPORT EVERYTHING THAT'S IN THERE, SAVE THAT ONE THING. IT'S A STICKING POINT FOR ME.

>> MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE SPECIAL EVENTS GUIDE AND APPLICATION?

>> DO I HAVE A SECOND?

>> A SECOND.

>> CAN YOU CALL THE ROLL, PLEASE?

>> MEMBERS FOLDING?

>> YES. E.

>> MEMBER PROSTIN?

>> YES.

>> MEMBER COKE?

>> YES.

>> CHAIR CAMERA?

>> YES.

>> MEMBER LOTRY?

>> YES.

>> MEMBER GOLDSTEIN?

>> YES.

>> MEMBER WALLY.

>> YES. [LAUGHTER]

>> GOOD JOB, DIANA.

>> GOT IT.

>> THANK YOU, EVERYONE.

>> THANKS, AT TO YOU.

>> THANK YOU.

>> I'M GOING TO DROP DOWN TO STAFF UPDATES, PLEASE.

>> THANKS, CHAIR CAMERA.

JUST TO FOLLOW UP, KATIE, I THINK YOU DID A GREAT JOB.

WE WILL TAKE THOSE AND MOVE THOSE FORWARD AND WORK WITH JEREMIAH AND MS. CAMPBELL.

WE WILL BRING UP THE IDEA OF ONE OF YOUR CONCERNS IS THE POLE BANNERS THAT HAS CHANGED.

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THEN WE WILL ALSO FOLLOW UP ON THE INSURANCE, AND WE WILL ALSO ADD THE FEE SCHEDULE. THOSE ARE THINGS.

I WILL KEEP YOU INFORMED ON WHEN THAT IS GOING TO GO TO THE COMMISSION.

JUST TO FOLLOW UP ON THAT CONVERSATION.

BUT GREAT JOB, KATIE.

>> THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU.

>> I WAS VERY NERVOUS.

>> NO THE JOB.

>> THE DOCUMENT WAS [OVERLAPPING].

I'M GOING TO GO THROUGH A FEW THINGS AND WITH THIS, THERE WAS A FEW THINGS ADDED BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY WE POSTED THIS, BUT I POSTED THIS ABOUT A WEEK AGO, SO THERE'S A COUPLE NEW THINGS.

THE RESURFACING OF THE MLK POLE AND THE NEW FENCE ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF THE POLE.

IT'S IT'S COMPLETE.

IT WENT GREAT.

THE ONLY THING WE ARE WAITING ON IS THE TWO PERMITS, ONE FROM THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT AND THEN ONE THROUGH THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT.

IT HAS WATER, AND WE SHOULD BE COMPLETING THAT AND GETTING IT OPEN, BUT WE DO HAVE TO WAIT UNTIL THOSE INSPECTIONS TAKE PLACE.

EAGAN CREEK FITNESS EQUIPMENT IS INSTALLED AND IS COMPLETE.

I HOPE THAT YOU GUYS BEEN ABLE TO SEE OUR PARKS CREW WORKING DOWN AT THE PATON COURTS AT CENTRAL PARK.

WE HAVE BEEN WORKING CLOSELY WITH MR. ABBOTT AND THE PATON GROUP.

THEY ARE HAPPY WITH OUR WORK THERE.

OUR GOAL, THAT I'M SETTING IS TO BE COMPLETE BY THE 20TH WHICH IS POSSIBLY BY THE END OF NEXT WEEK.

WE'RE GOING TO MAKE THAT HAPPEN. ALSO, THE SECOND PHASE OF THE SKATE PARK REHABILITATION, I HAVE BEEN TOLD THAT THOSE PARTS SHOULD BE BACK HERE BY THE END OF JANUARY.

[LAUGHTER].

>> ALWAYS HAVING A CORONARY.

>> THAT WAS NOT A JOKE BY THE END OF JANUARY, MEANING BACK FROM THE GALVANIZER.

IN THERE AND INSTALL.

THE HICKORY STREET PARK BATHROOMS. THE COMMISSION DID APPROVE THOSE ON DECEMBER THE 3RD.

PARKS AND RECREATION TEAM WE HAVE COMPLETED THE PURCHASE ORDER FOR THAT.

WE ARE WORKING ON THE PURCHASE OF THAT.

WE ARE ALSO WORKING WITH THE UTILITIES DEPARTMENT BECAUSE THERE'S GOING TO BE SOME IMPACT FEES AND EXTENSION OF THE WATER IN THE SEWER AS WELL.

WE'RE WORKING WITH ANDRE AND HIS TEAM.

ANDRE HAS BEEN VERY HELPFUL WITH THAT, AND THEN ALSO POWER TO GET TO THAT.

WE'RE WORKING WITH FPU AS WELL.

>> IS THERE LIKE A BEST CASE SCENARIO OR [NOISE] FOR THAT?

>> MY GOAL IS TO HAVE IT INSTALLED BY MARCH.

>> YUMMY. WOW. IT'S EXCITING.

>> LET'S SAY THE END OF MARCH.

>> I'M GOING TO HOLD TO IT.

>> THAT IS MY GOAL.

>> BEFORE SPRING. THAT'S WHEN IT REALLY STARTS GETTING A LOT OF USE OUT THERE.

>> WE ARE WORKING AFTER THE COMMISSION MEETING AFTER THEY APPROVED IT, LASHONDER, WHO WORKS IN THE OFFICE DID THE PURCHASE ORDER SO THAT IS ALREADY GONE.

WE'RE GOING TO WORK WITH THAT CONTRACTOR ON FINALIZING ALL THE ITEMS IN THERE AND THEN THEY CAN START BUILDING IT.

>> IMAGINE THE BIG WORK BECAUSE IT'S A PREFAB UNIT.

THE BIG WORK IS REALLY THE INFRASTRUCTURE UNDERNEATH.

>> THAT IS CORRECT. WE'RE ALSO WORKING WITH A GENTLEMAN, I BELIEVE HE'S OUT OF GEORGIA THAT WORKS WITH A LOT OF THESE PREFAB BUILDINGS THAT A LOT OF THEM ARE VERY SIMILAR, SO HE DOES A LOT OF THE STUB UPS.

WE'RE WORKING WITH HIM AS WELL TO TRY TO EXPEDITE IT.

>> IT'S, ONCE THE WATER GETS IN, THE REST OF IT MOVES PRETTY QUICK.

>> THAT IS CORRECT.

>> THEY'LL COME AND BRING IT WITH A CRANE.

>> AWESOME. THANK YOU GUYS FOR THAT.

>> THAT'S AT HICKORY STREET, AND WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT THAT FOR MANY YEARS.

SO THANKS, JEREMIAH, ESPECIALLY WITH THAT AND OBVIOUSLY THE SCHOOL BOARD.

THE SCHOOL BOARD AND THE CITY, THE LEASE IS INCOMPLETE.

HOWEVER, THEY HAVE GIVEN THEIR WORD THAT THE LEASE IS GOING TO BE EXTENDED.

THE SKATE PARK EXPANSION, AS YOU GUYS KNOW, THE CITY COMMISSION HAS APPROVED $30,000.

IT WAS 90 ORIGINALLY.

THE CITY COMMISSION APPROVED $30,000.

WE DID HAVE OUR FIRST MEETING ACTUALLY DECEMBER 6TH ON FRIDAY.

WE NOW ARE PUTTING TOGETHER 18 OF A GROUP OF PEOPLE, INCLUDING SOME INDIVIDUALS FROM THE FRIENDS OF THE SKATE PARK GROUP.

OBVIOUSLY, MYSELF, KATIE, WE'RE PUTTING TOGETHER A GROUP TO GET THE BALL ROLLING ON THIS.

[00:55:03]

THEN AFTER WE GET THE BALL ROLLING ON IT, WE WANT TO BRING MORE PEOPLE INTO IT.

POSSIBLY, AND I WAS THINKING ABOUT THIS AND I WANTED TO GET THE BOARD'S OPINION IS, DOES SOMEBODY FROM THE BOARD WANT TO BE A LIAISON AS WE WORK THROUGH THIS PROCESS, IF THERE IS A MEETING TO SIT IN AND LISTEN ON SOME OF THESE MEETINGS? IT DOESN'T HAVE TO HAPPEN, IT'S JUST A THOUGHT.

BUT AS WE GO THROUGH THIS PROCESS, PEOPLE WILL BE INFORMED.

THE GROUP THAT HAS BEEN HIRED, THERE'S GOING TO BE WHERE WE'LL HAVE COMMUNITY MEETINGS.

THE PROCESS WILL BE VETTED.

I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU GUYS ARE ALL AWARE OF THAT.

>> I WOULD FULLY SUPPORT SOMEONE ON THIS BOARD BEING A LIASON NOT ONLY WITH THE SKATE PARK, BUT I THINK, YOU DO A GOOD JOB OF BEING ONE OF THE POINT PEOPLE FOR BASEBALL, AND I THINK THAT FOR THE LARGER ORGANIZATIONS AND GROUPS, THAT WE OUGHT TO HAVE A PERSON WHO IS REPRESENTATIVE, THAT PERSON THAT CAN BRING THE WATER BACK TO US.

>> YES. ACTUALLY, I WAS THINKING ABOUT THAT AND I WAS THINKING ABOUT THE SPORTS COMPLEX OUT AT YBOR ALVAREZ.

I WAS THINKING ABOUT THE MARTIN LUTHER KING, THE FIELDS OVER THERE.

THE PUBLIC ART WHERE IF WE DO HAVE MEETINGS, AND WE CAN TALK ABOUT THIS AT OUR NEXT MEETING IS, IS THERE AN INDIVIDUAL FROM PRAC THAT WANTS TO BE A LIAISON? I HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH THAT.

I THINK IT JUST CREATES MORE OF AN ATMOSPHERE OF OPENNESS.

>> CAN YOU GUYS GIVE US A LIST FOR THE NEXT MEETING OF WHAT ORGANIZATIONS THERE ARE AND THEN WE CAN TRY TO GET PEOPLE TO VOLUNTEER AND THEN MAYBE PLUG IN [OVERLAPPING]

>> TO DISCUSS IT.

THEN THAT'S WHEN WE'LL HAVE THE NEW ORGANIZATION?

>> YEAH. THEN MAYBE BEING ABLE TO ASK SOMEBODY THAT LEAD THOSE ORGANIZATIONS THAT THE LIAISON AND THEN THAT ORGANIZATIONAL PERSON, THEY CAN BE POINT PEOPLE IF THERE'S QUESTIONS.

I THINK THAT WOULD HELP EVERYBODY BECAUSE WE ONLY MEET ONCE A MONTH, WE HAVE LIMITED ACCESS SOMETIMES AND YOU GUYS ARE MOVING AT A DIFFERENT RATE THAN WE ARE ABLE TO AS ONLY MEETING ONCE A MONTH.

SO THAT MIGHT ACTUALLY HELP CLOSE SOME OF THE GAPS.

>> I TOTALLY AGREE.

I THINK FIRST OF ALL, I THINK IT USES OUR RESOURCES MUCH BETTER IN THE IDEA THAT WE ARE PART OF THE LISTING PROCESS OF HOW THESE PEOPLE COME ABOUT AND WHAT THEIR DESIRES ARE.

I THINK IT'S IT BEHOOVES US TO TRUST OUR COLLEAGUES HERE TO COME BACK AND TELL US WHAT THEIR THOUGHT PROCESS WAS HOW THEY LOOKED AT IT WITH WITH OPEN EYES.

I FIRMLY BELIEVE THAT IN JANUARY, WE SHOULD ADDRESS THE BIG ISSUES OF WHAT COMES UP.

I THINK THERE'S FOUR OR FIVE PROJECTS THAT ARE IN THE BUDGET FOR '24 '25, THAT WE SHOULD HAVE LIAISON PEOPLE ADDRESSING AND BEING HERE FOR THE MEETINGS OR WHATEVER THE CASE MAY BE.

>> KATIE AND I CAN COME BACK WITH A LIST AND PRESENT THAT TO YOU AND THEN WE CAN WORK THROUGH THAT PROCESS.

>> THANK YOU.

>> YES, SIR.

>> WHEN YOU SAY LIST, WELL, A LIST OF PEOPLE?

>> NO. I THINK WHAT I WAS READING FROM THAT CONVERSATION WAS THAT THERE'S GOING TO BE A LIST OF LARGER PROJECTS JUST TO NAME A FEW [OVERLAPPING]

>> SINCE YOU WERE ON THE ITEM ABOUT THE SKATE PARK AND THE EXPANSION, AND THE LIAISON CAME UP, I'D LIKE TO PUT A SUGGESTION FOR MS. MOUNTJOY TO BE THE LIAISON [LAUGHTER] SHE'S GOT LITTLE KIDS AND GOES UP TO THE SKATE PARK, SO THAT WOULD BE MY SUGGESTION [OVERLAPPING]

>> THANK YOU.

>> I THINK SHE WOULD BE A PERFECT PERSON TO BE THE LIAISON, IF I HAD A SUGGESTION TO MAKE IN THAT PART.

>> MOVING ALONG, ITEM NUMBER 7, BEACH ACCESS 30.

WE DO HAVE A CONTRACT WITH AN INDIVIDUAL OR A COMPANY, I SHOULD SAY.

WE ARE GOING TO DO IN THE VERY NEAR FUTURE, WE'RE GOING TO START A BEACH ACCESS 30.

WE'RE GOING TO REED THAT BEACH ACCESS 30, AND THEN WE'RE GOING TO MOVE ON TO BEACH ACCESS 28, SO THOSE ARE COMING IN THE VERY NEAR FUTURE.

ALSO, ITEM NUMBER 8, BATTING CAGES AT CENTRAL PARK.

THOSE ARE OUT TO BID.

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NOW, REMEMBER, THAT'S A $50,000 GRANT FROM THE COUNTY, SO THANK YOU, COUNTY VERY MUCH.

THEN ALSO THE REMAINDER IS GOING TO BE COMING FROM BABE RUTH BASEBALL.

THESE ARE GOING TO BE BRAND NEW BATTING CAGES AT CENTRAL PARK.

THAT PROJECT IS OUT TO BID.

I THINK I MADE A NOTE HERE FOR MYSELF THAT THE CLOSING DATE ON THAT BID PROCESS IS JANUARY 16TH, SO THAT PROJECT IS MOVING FORWARD.

ALSO, I WANTED TO LET YOU KNOW IN CASE YOU SEE OR ANYONE'S ASKING YOU, OUR PARKS DIVISION IS GOING ACCESS BY ACCESS.

WE'RE PUTTING TOGETHER A NEW ROTATION OF MAKING SURE OUR BEACH ACCESSES ARE TAKEN CARE OF BETTER.

THERE'S SOME OVERGROWN VEGETATION AND JUST BEAUTIFYING THE PARKING LOTS, EDGING THEM, WEED EATING THEM, REMOVING SAND THAT SHOULDN'T BE.

IF ANYONE ASKS, IN ADDITION TO THAT IS WE DO, THAT IS THROUGH PARKS AND RECREATION, THE GRAIN, VERY NICE CONTAINERS FOR GARBAGE THAT THE GARBAGE CAN DOES ROLL INTO, SO WE DO MANAGE THAT.

AS WE GO THROUGH EACH ACCESS, WE'RE ACTUALLY STEAM CLEANING EACH ONE OF THOSE GARBAGE CANS, AND WE HOPE THAT WE CAN DO THIS MORE OFTEN.

JUST LOOKING AT AT THAT AS A BEAUTIFICATION PROJECT, AND ALSO WE ARE NOTICING SOME DAMAGE TO THOSE GARBAGE CANS, SO WE'RE FIXING THOSE AS WE GO THROUGH.

>> QUESTION, SCOTT?

>> ABSOLUTELY.

>> WHEN YOU SAY THEY'RE GETTING WEEDY, IS THAT NATIVE PLANTS ARE NON-NATIVE?

>> NO. WHAT I'M SAYING WITH THAT WOULD BE, FOR EXAMPLE, RIGHT ALONG IF THE BEACH ACCESS IS UP AGAINST A FENCE OR WE WOULD BE CLEANING UP THAT AND WEED EATING.

IF THE GRASS IS COMING AND GROWING OVER ONTO THE ASPHALT, WE'RE CLEANING UP THAT.

WE'RE NOT NECESSARILY REMOVING, WE'RE JUST MAINTAINING.

>> OKAY.

>> DO YOU HAVE A CONCERN, HAVE YOU SEEN SOMETHING?

>> NO. I HAVEN'T, YOU KNOW ME.

>> YEAH. THAT'S FINE.

>> WEEDS VERSUS NATIVE PLANTS, JUST MAKING SURE THAT YOU'RE NOT PULLING STUFF OUT AND INVADER RAIDERS CAN CERTAINLY HELP IF YOU'VE GOT A SITUATION WHERE THERE'S A PARTICULAR CONCERN THAT THEY COULD COME AND IDENTIFY PLANTS.

>> OKAY.

>> OR IF YOU WANTED SOME NATIVE PLANTS PLANTED [OVERLAPPING]

>> YEAH. BECAUSE AS WELL AS DOING THAT THE NATIVE PLANTS DO HOLD THE SAND IN PLACE MUCH BETTER.

IF NOTHING IS THERE TO HOLD THE SAND, THAT'S WHEN WE GET SAND ALL OVER OUR BOARDWALKS, SO IT DOES HELP THAT.

>> THAT IS A NATURAL AFFORDABLE AND LONG-TERM SOLUTION TO THE SAND.

>> YES.

>> ARE ANY OF THE BEACH ACCESS MAINTENANCE CLEAN UP, WHATEVER, IS THERE ANYTHING THERE THAT MAYBE VOLUNTEER GROUPS COULD DO LIKE YOU DO ADOPT A HIGHWAY WHERE WE COULD DO ADOPT A BEACH ACCESS AND MAYBE HAVE ORGANIZATIONS DO THAT? SOME MAYBE HAVE SPECIFIC THINGS THAT YOU GUYS CAN DICTATE, BUT TWOFOLD.

IT'S REALLY EASY TO IDENTIFY BECAUSE THEY'RE ALL SIGNED AND NUMBERED, AND THEN ALSO, TO GIVE ORGANIZATION SOMETHING TO DO THAT COULD MAYBE TAKE AWAY, OBVIOUSLY, WE COULDN'T STEAM CLEAN THE TRASH CAN BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE THAT EQUIPMENT, BUT IS THERE SOMETHING WHERE WE CAN MAKE SURE ALL THE TRASH IS PICKED UP OR SOMEBODY TO MONITOR, IS THERE IS THERE A WAY THAT PEOPLE COULD HELP?

>> WE HAVE A VOLUNTEER, SORRY TO CUT YOU OFF.

>> NO PROBLEM.

>> WE HAVE A VOLUNTEER PROGRAM THAT ANYONE CAN VOLUNTEER TO DO ANYTHING BASICALLY WITHIN PARKS AND RECREATION AND THE CITY.

YOU JUST PUT AN APPLICATION IN WITH YOUR RECOMMENDATION AND WE'LL MEET WITH YOU.

THAT COULD BE SOMETHING ANYONE CAN PUT AN APPLICATION FOR, AND THEN SCOTT AND I WOULD MEET WITH THEM AND GO THROUGH THE GUIDELINES OF WHAT THE EXPECTATION IS AND WHAT THEY CAN DO AND WHAT THEY CAN'T. [OVERLAPPING]

>> WHERE I SEE THIS IS SOMETHING VERY SIMILAR TO KEEP NASSAU BEAUTIFUL.

KEEP NASSAU BEAUTIFUL HAS WORKED WITH, HERE'S JUST AN EXAMPLE, THERE'S A SIGN AT THE SKATE PARK.

THIS FRIENDS OF FERNADINA OF BEACH SKATE PARK MAINTAINS THIS PART.

THERE'S SIGNS AT SIMMONS, THERE'S SIGNS AT CENTRAL PARK THROUGH KEEP NASSAU BEAUTIFUL, SO I SEE IT LIKE THAT IS IF AN ORGANIZATION OR A TEAM WANTS TO ADOPT AN ACCESS.

THERE'S SOME WORK THAT WE WOULD HAVE TO DO BEHIND THE SCENES, BUT IT'S AN OPTION.

> OR A NEIGHBORHOOD.

>> OR AN HOA, YES.

>> MAYBE WE COULD FIND OPPORTUNITIES LIKE WHERE SOMEBODY FROM THE CITY IS ON SITE WITH THE WEED EATER,

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THEY KNOW WHAT NEEDS TO BE WEEDED, BUT PEOPLE COULD BE THERE TO HELP WITH OTHER THINGS [OVERLAPPING]

>> YEAH. WITH POSSIBLY KATHY RUSSELL, WHO WORKS HERE IN PLANNING AND CONSERVATION, AND SHE KNOWS PEOPLE WITH THE INVADER RAIDERS, TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE NOT REMOVING STUFF. [OVERLAPPING]

>> YEAH. [OVERLAPPING]

>> TRASH IS PRETTY CLEARLY. [OVERLAPPING]

>> YEAH. THIS THIS PARTICULAR WEEKEND, THE GOLF COURSE HAVE VOLUNTEERS FOR FRIDAY, SATURDAY, AND SUNDAY TO PICK UP STICKS AND DEBRIS ON THE GOLF COURSE, SO THERE'S VOLUNTEERS GOING OUT THERE THIS WEEKEND.

I THINK WE CAN DEVELOP A PROGRAM OF THAT TYPE SO THAT WE CAN ENGAGE, EITHER GIVING COMMUNITY SERVICE HOURS TO THE HIGH SCHOOL KIDS THAT WOULD LIKE TO DO CERTAIN PROJECTS.

THAT'S A GREAT PROGRAM.

BUT THESE ARE ADULTS THAT ARE GOING OUT ON FRIDAY, SATURDAY, AND SUNDAY FOR FOUR OR FIVE HOURS, PICKING UP STICKS, DEBRIS, AND WHATEVER ON THE GOLF COURSE.

>> THOSE VOLUNTEERS ARE ACTUALLY VETTED AND GONE THROUGH THE PARKS AND RECREATION VOLUNTEER APPLICATIONS, SO IT IS SOMETHING THAT WE CAN LOOK INTO. ABSOLUTELY.

>> THANK YOU.

>> THESE ARE A FEW THINGS THAT GOT ADDED ON TO WE POSTED, BUT WINDOW REPLACEMENT AT THE ARC, THAT BID IS GOING TO CLOSE ON DECEMBER 14TH [OVERLAPPING]

>> HANG ON HERE [OVERLAPPING]

>> YES. THESE ARE A COUPLE OF ITEMS THAT I WANTED TO ADD JUST FOR YOUR AWARENESS THAT HAPPENED THAT AFTER IT WAS POSTED LAST TUESDAY.

THE WATERFRONT PARK PAVILION AND BATHROOMS. THIS IS THE WATERFRONT DOWN HERE.

THAT BID IS GOING TO CLOSE DECEMBER 20TH.

THAT IS SEPARATE.

THERE'S TWO BIDS OUT THERE, SO THIS IS SEPARATE.

THEY DID THEM DIFFERENTLY.

THE PAVILION AND THE RESTROOM WAS BID SEPARATELY, SO THAT IS IN PROCESS RIGHT NOW.

I BELIEVE THERE'S A COMMITTEE REVIEWING THE ORIGINAL, I BELIEVE THE CIVIL SIDE OF THE WATERFRONT PARK.

BUT I JUST WANTED TO LET YOU KNOW THAT THE PAVILION AND THE BATHROOM, THEY ARE BID SEPARATELY DUE TO THE THE CIVIL SIDE OF THE BIG PARK, SO THAT'S OUT TO BID RIGHT NOW.

WE ARE WORKING WITH THE HOMELESS COALITION AT THE DECEMBER 3RD COMMISSION MEETING FOR COLD NIGHT SHELTERS AT THE MARTIN LUTHER KING RECREATION CENTER.

I WANTED TO THANK KATIE AND THE TEAM FOR WORKING ON THAT AS WELL.

THERE'S AN INDIVIDUAL THAT HAS REALLY STEPPED UP, AND I THINK HE SPOKE AT THE LAST COMMISSION MEETING AS WELL.

STAFF IS WORKING THROUGH THAT, AND I BELIEVE, ONCE I KNOW FOR SURE, THAT'S GOING TO GO BACK TO THE COMMISSION BECAUSE THERE WAS A FEW THINGS THAT WE MAYBE WANTED TO ADD IN THERE.

ONCE I HEAR WHEN THAT'S GOING TO GO BACK TO THE COMMISSION, I'LL MAKE SURE YOU'RE AWARE OF THAT [OVERLAPPING]

>> CAN I JUST ADD A BIT TO THAT BECAUSE WE ACTUALLY HAD A MEETING TODAY, THIS IS SOMETHING I CARE ABOUT VERY MUCH.

FIRST OF ALL, THANK YOU TO THE CITY AND PARKS AND REC FOR ALLOWING THE USE OF THIS BUILDING, SINCE IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT.

ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I PERSONALLY ASKED FOR AT THE LAST MEETING WAS THAT WE CONSIDER IT NOT JUST FOR COLD NIGHTS, BUT ALSO THE NIGHTS WHERE THE WEATHER IS HORRIFIC.

WE HAD THREE WEEKS OF FLOODING RAIN, SO FOR PEOPLE WHO LIVE OUTSIDE, THAT'S HARD, SO THE COMMISSION HAS AGREED THAT THEY COULD CHANGE SOME OF THE LANGUAGE TO INCLUDE SOME OTHER WE'RE CALLING EXTREME WEATHER SITUATIONS FOR LIKE THERE'S TIMES WHEN IT'S SUPER HOT AT NIGHT, WHATEVER, SO THEY'RE WORKING ON THAT.

THE CITY HAS OFFERED TO HELP US GET THAT LANGUAGE TOGETHER AT THE GET GO SO THAT HOPEFULLY WHEN IT GETS ON TO THE NEXT MEETING, BUT THEY HAVE AGREED TO CONTINUE FOR THE COLD NIGHTS AS IT HAS BEEN.

THAT IS A HUGE THING NOT ONLY FOR THE PEOPLE WHO BENEFIT FROM THOSE SERVICES, BUT ALSO SAYS SOMETHING AMAZING ABOUT OUR CITY AND THE PEOPLE WHO CARE ABOUT THESE THINGS.

THANK YOU FOR EVERYONE FOR THAT.

>> ALSO, JUST TO LET YOU KNOW, WE ARE WORKING BEHIND THE SCENES AS WITH OUR LAST MEETING WITH THE PUBLIC ART POLICY.

WE ARE WORKING ON SOME OF THOSE, THAT WILL COME BACK TO YOU.

WE ARE WORKING ON THAT BEHIND THE SCENES.

THIS IS ONE THING THAT MEANS A LOT TO ME.

[01:10:02]

EIGHT FLAKES PLAYSCAPES WAS A NONPROFIT ORGANIZATION THAT WAS IN THIS COMMUNITY FOR QUITE A FEW YEARS.

THEY WERE INSTRUMENTAL IN THE DEVELOPMENT OF PIRATES PARK.

THEY WERE INSTRUMENTAL IN EGAN'S CREEK PARK.

THEY WERE INSTRUMENTAL IN SIMMONS PARK, SO THOSE THREE PARKS.

A LOT OF THEIR ORGANIZATION HAS MOVED AWAY, SO THEY ARE IN THE PROCESS OF DISSOLVING, I BELIEVE, THEY ARE 501(C)(3).

STAFF PARKS, AND US, THE PARKS AND RECREATION DEPARTMENT ALONG WITH THEM IS THEY HAVE MADE A FINAL DONATION OF TWO BEACH WHEELCHAIRS, AND THIS IS ONE OF THE REASONS WHY IN OUR FEE SCHEDULE, WE WERE WORKING WITH THEM ON REMOVING COSTS FOR USING OUR BEACH WHEELCHAIRS.

WE DID REMOVE THOSE FEES FROM OUR FEE SCHEDULE.

WITH THAT, EIGHT FLAKES PLAYSCAPES HAS DONATED TWO AMAZING BEACH WHEELCHAIRS.

IT'S A LITTLE THING, BUT WE ARE ABLE TO PROVIDE THESE BEACH WHEELCHAIRS TO TOO MANY PEOPLE THAT CAN NOW GET TO OUR BEACHES.

THAT WAS THEIR FINAL GIFT, AND WE'RE GOING TO POST SOMETHING ON SOCIAL MEDIA AND THANK THEM, BUT THIS WAS THEIR LAST LITTLE-

>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. I WANTED THE PUBLIC TO KNOW ABOUT IT.

>> THAT'S FANTASTIC.

>> VERY NICE, SO WE WILL BE POSTING THOSE PICTURES WHEN WE GET A NICE SUNNY DAY.

I HAVE HAD THE HONOR TO MEET WITH COMMISSIONER MINCHU LAST WEEK.

MET WITH HER AT THE ATLANTIC RECREATION CENTER, WENT OVER A 30,000 FOOT VIEW OF THE DEPARTMENT.

I WILL ALSO BE MEETING WITH NEW COMMISSIONER TUTON, DECEMBER 18TH NEXT WEEK SO I LOOK FORWARD TO THAT.

NOW I'M GOING TO JUMP BACK TO THE PROGRAMS, ITEM NUMBER 10.

THE CHRISTMAS TREE LIGHTING.

IT WAS GREAT AS I WAS, IT WAS COLD, IT WAS RAINY, THE WEATHER WAS MISERABLE.

[LAUGHTER] THE TURNOUT WAS NOT AS GREAT AS NORMAL, BUT IT HAD TO DO WITH THE WEATHER.

IT WAS COLD SO THE NASSAU COMMUNITY BAND, WHICH EVERYONE LOVES, THEY HAD TO QUIT EARLY.

IT WAS RAINING, THEIR INSTRUMENTS OBVIOUSLY SHOULD NOT BE IN THE RAIN, THEY QUIT A LITTLE BIT EARLY.

BUT THE EVENT WAS GREAT, IT WAS JUST COLD.

OBVIOUSLY, THE TREE, AND THEN AS YOU DRIVE DOWN CENTER STREET, THE LIGHTS LOOK BEAUTIFUL THIS TIME OF YEAR.

IT'S MY FAVORITE TIME DOWN ON CENTER STREET.

>> WELL, NEXT YEAR, YOU JUST TO MAKE SURE IT'S NOT SO COLD.

>> IT'S AS SIMPLE AS THAT.

>> THIS WEEK IT'S BEEN SO NICE AND THEN LIKE THURSDAY AND FRIDAY DROPS.

[LAUGHTER]

>> THE WIND COMING OFF THE RIVER AND THE RAIN, IT WAS COLD.

>> YOU GUYS AND I UNDERSTOOD I WASN'T THERE BECAUSE IT WAS COLD AND WET.

[LAUGHTER] BUT I TO BECAUSE PEOPLE WERE COMPLAINING THAT WE GOT THERE RIGHT AT TIME AND THEY HAD ALREADY LIT THE TREE.

I'M LIKE, WELL, IT'S COLD OUTSIDE DAVE YOU CAN SEE IT FOR A MONTH, WHY ARE YOU COMPLAINING? THE FACT THAT YOU GUYS WERE ABLE TO EVEN DO IT UNDER THOSE CONDITIONS, I APPLAUD YOU ALL AND TO ALL THE PEOPLE WHO SHOWED UP AND THERE'S GOING TO BE PEOPLE COMPLAIN ABOUT EVERYTHING. THANK YOU.

>> WE DID HUDDLE UNDERNEATH THE TENT, AND WE DID SAY, IF THIS GOES OFF EARLY, WE MIGHT HEAR ABOUT IT. [LAUGHTER]

>> FREEZING.

>> BUT WE GOT THE OKAY AND WE MOVE FORWARD.

>> JUST REALLY QUICKLY, I WANT TO GIVE A SHOUT OUT TO OUR STAFF BECAUSE THEY WERE OUT IN THAT FREEZING COLD KILLING IT.

THEN THE WEEK AND A HALF PRIOR, THEY DEDICATED THEIR DAYS TO MAKING DOWNTOWN LOOK THE BEST IT'S EVER LOOKED SINCE I'VE BEEN HERE.

I THINK THE TREE LOOKS PHENOMENAL AND THAT THERE'S ONE PERSON IN OUR DEPARTMENT WHO IS TAKING CHRISTMAS VERY SERIOUSLY, AND I JUST WANT TO GIVE AMORY A SHOUTOUT BECAUSE I THINK SHE'S WATCHING.

SHE REALLY HAS DEDICATED I CALL MYSELF KATIE CHRISTMAS, BUT SHE IS THE REAL KATIE CHRISTMAS.

SHE IS AMAZING, SO I JUST WANT TO GIVE HER A LITTLE SHOUTOUT.

>> THANKS, KATIE. WE HAVE RE IMPLEMENTED OR IMPLEMENTED OUR SENIOR TRIPS, NOT SENIORS AS IN HIGH SCHOOL, BUT OUR ADULT AND OLDER INDIVIDUALS.

WE DID HAVE OUR FIRST ONE,

[01:15:01]

WHICH I KNOW I REPORTED TO YOU.

THE TURNOUT WASN'T GREAT, BUT WE ARE GOING TO CONTINUE TO DO THIS.

OUR NEXT ONE IS TO THE ST. JOHNS TOWN CENTER, WHICH HAD I WAS FILLED UP, BUT THAT'S DECEMBER 11TH.

ALSO, ONE OF MY GOALS WAS TO, IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT TO ME IS HAVING AFTER SCHOOL PROGRAM AT THE MARTIN LUTHER KING CENTER AND PROGRAMMING THAT CENTER, BUT ALSO RUNNING YOUTH BASKETBALL AND HAVING SOME YOUTH SPORTS.

WE ARE GOING TO KICK OFF AND HAVE A YOUTH BASKETBALL CAMP OVER THE CHRISTMAS BREAK SO THAT'S COMING, AND WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE TO BUILD OFF OF THAT.

>> IS THAT FOR UP TO 17?

>> I BELIEVE IT'S 17 [OVERLAPPING] I THINK IT WAS 16.

I CAN GET YOU THE INFORMATION.

>> CAN YOU EXTEND IT UNDER 18 BECAUSE I GOT ONE THAT'S LIKE THREE MONTHS LEFT TO BE 17, AND HE'S TRYING TO GET IN ALL THE KID BASKETBALL HE CAN.

HE CAN HELP. [OVERLAPPING]

>> HE CAN VOLUNTEER.

>> THAT'D BE GREAT.

>> IT IS UP TO 12 UNDER 10.

>> WE WOULD BE YES, THAT WOULD BE FINE.

>> YOU LOVE VOLUNTEERS AND BE THE RIGHT. [OVERLAPPING]

>> WE HAVE THE CHRISTMAS HOLIDAY CAMP WHILE THE KIDS ARE OUT OF SCHOOL.

THEN MOVING ON TO THE SECOND PAGE NUMBER 11, THIS IS SOME UPCOMING ITEMS, AND IF ANYTHING NEW COMES UP, WHERE IT GETS ADDED, I WILL MAKE SURE I SEND YOU AN E MAIL.

BUT WE DO HAVE THE STRIP FESTIVAL SPECIAL EVENT APPLICATION THAT'S GOING TO BE GOING TO THE COMMISSION FOR THEIR REVIEW AND DON'T JUST FOR THEM TO TAKE A LOOK AT IT.

>> WHY DO THEY HAVE TO DO SOME AND NOT ALL OR?

>> I CANNOT ANSWER THAT QUESTION HONESTLY.

>> I CAN'T REMEMBER.

>> I WILL TELL YOU IF IF THERE IS A NEW EVENT THAT CLOSES A ROAD DOWNTOWN.

THOSE ITEMS ARE THE COMMISSION HAS ASKED THEM TO REVIEW THAT.

OBVIOUSLY, SHRIMP FESTIVALS HAPPENING, I THINK IT'S JUST A QUESTION.

>> I REMEMBER THERE WAS SOMETHING THAT MADE IT SO THAT HAD TO GO, BUT I CAN'T REMEMBER WHAT THE CLOSURE.

THEY ALSO ARE ASSOCIATED WITH SOME CLOSURES AT THE MARINA, AND THAT'S ANOTHER REASON WHY IT'S GOING.

>> THEN WE ARE TAKING THE EXISTING POLES AT THE TENNIS COURT LIGHTS.

THIS WAS A BUDGETED ITEM, AND WE'RE RETROFITTING THOSE WITH LED SO WE ARE UPDATING THOSE LIGHTS.

THAT'S GOING TO GO TO THE COMMISSION AS OF RIGHT NOW ON JANUARY 7TH.

POSITION WISE, WE ARE COMPLETELY FULL, WE DID HAVE ONE TRANSFER IN OUR PARKS DIVISION, SO WE ARE GOING TO HAVE TO FILL THAT POSITION.

OTHERWISE, WE DO HAVE I JUST LISTED A COUPLE PART TIME POSITIONS SO STAFFING IS GOOD.

THEN OBVIOUSLY, THIS TIME OF YEAR, THERE'S A BUNCH OF UPCOMING SPECIAL EVENTS, THOSE ARE LISTED THERE, AND I KNOW I'VE BEEN SPEAKING FOR A LONG TIME, SO I WILL JUST LET YOU READ THOSE.

I JUST WANTED TO SAY ONE LAST THING AND THEN YOU GUYS CAN MOVE ON WITH YOUR COMMENTS.

BUT I DID WANT TO THANK MEMBER BERREO AND MEMBER GOLDMAN FOR YOUR SERVICE AT THE LAST COMMISSION MEETING, THERE WAS FIVE POSITIONS, SEVEN APPLICANTS, AND THEY DID LIST FIVE OF THOSE PEOPLE.

WE WILL HAVE A NEW BOARD STARTING IN JANUARY, BUT I DID WANT TO THANK MEMBER BERREO AND MEMBER GOLDMAN FOR YOUR SERVICE ON THIS BOARD I GREATLY APPRECIATE IT.

WE WILL BE ELECTING A CHAIR AND VICE CHAIR IN JANUARY AND MOST IMPORTANTLY, I PERSONALLY WOULD LIKE TO THANK THE PARKS AND RECREATION STAFF FOR ALL THEIR WORK THIS YEAR.

WE ARE GOING TO CONTINUE TO PUSH FORWARD, AND WE'RE GOING TO DO GREAT THINGS.

I JUST WANT TO WISH YOU MERRY CHRISTMAS AND HAPPY NEW YEAR. THAT'S IT.

[8. STAFF COMMENTS]

>> STAFF COMMENTS.

WE WANT TO START RIGHT TO LEFT.

>> JUST WISH EVERYBODY A MERRY CHRISTMAS AND A PROSPEROUS UPCOMING NEW YEAR.

>> SAME THING. WE'VE HAD A GREAT YEAR I'VE REALLY ENJOYED MY FIRST YEAR ON THE BOARD SO MUCH SO THAT I AGAIN.

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THANKS EVERYBODY FOR ALL THE HARD WORK I REALLY APPRECIATE THE THOUGHTFULNESS OF THE BOARD AND THE WORK OF THE PARKS AND EVERYTHING.

>> MERRY CHRISTMAS AND HAPPY NEW YEAR, HAPPY HOLIDAYS, ALL THOSE THINGS.

THE LIGHTED CHRISTMAS PARADE WAS THE BIGGEST.

LAST YEAR WE GOT RAINED OUT, I DON'T KNOW HOW BIG THAT WAS.

IT WAS PRETTY BIG, BUT THIS WAS THE BIGGEST I'VE EVER SEEN.

THE CROWD SEEMED AMAZING.

ONE THING I MIGHT SUGGEST FOR IT FOR NEXT YEAR.

JUST BETWEEN THE PARK AND FIRST LOVE, IT IS DARK, I DON'T KNOW IF WE COULD JUST GET A COUPLE OF TEMPORARY LIGHTS, MAYBE FACING [NOISE] NOT INTO THE STREET, BUT I WAS WORRIED THAT THERE WAS NOT ENOUGH LIGHT EVEN ON OUR GOLF CART, AND KIDS WERE CLOSE AND PEOPLE WERE MOVING, IT WAS HARD TO SEE.

THAT I WOULDN'T WANT TO HAPPEN IS SOMETHING HAPPENED AND WE CAN'T DO THAT ANYMORE.

IT'S JUST THAT ONE BLOCK.

IT IS BLACK, LIKE PITCH YOU CANNOT SEE ANYTHING.

THEN ONCE YOU GET PAST FIRST LOVE, THERE'S LIGHTS THERE AND THEN IT'S FINE ON ASH AND THEN WHEN YOU TURN ON SECOND.

IT'S JUST THAT ONE.

>> WE CAN RECOMMEND SOMETHING TO THE ORGANIZER.

I WILL SAY PACK HAD THOSE LIGHT STICKS, AND THOSE ARE VERY HELPFUL BECAUSE I ACTUALLY WAS STANDING ON THAT BOX.

WE CAN RECOMMEND SOMETHING TO THE ORGANIZER TO SEE IF THEY CAN PROVIDE SOMETHING AND IF NOT, WILL WORK.

>> I GUESS PARKING CARS THAT HAVE LIGHTS THAT WERE SHARING.

>> WE WERE STANDING IN FRONT OF THE BLUE HERON, WHICH IS THAT FIRST QUARTER OF ASH, AND WE'VE ALWAYS BEEN FARTHER DOWN AND YOU COULD SEE THE LIGHTS REALLY GREAT, BUT YOU COULD SEE THE WALKERS REALLY.

IT WAS REALLY DARK, THE PEOPLE THIS YEAR AND THEN WE WALKED THERE FROM CENTER STREET AND IT WAS TOTALLY DIFFERENT.

YOU COULD HARDLY SEE THE CARS LIGHTS BECAUSE IT WAS SO BRIGHT.

>> WITH PEOPLE HANDING OUT CANDY, EVEN THOUGH THEY WERE WALKING.

I WAS FEARFUL THAT JUST NOT BEING ABLE TO SEE LIKE YOU COULD.

ACTUALLY, IN MY GOLF CART, THE LIGHTS WERE REFLECTING OFF OF THE WINDSHIELD THAT WERE MAKING IT DIFFICULT FOR ME TO SEE EVEN DRIVING.

OBVIOUSLY DIFFERENT IN A CAR, BUT IT'S SUCH A NICE EVENT.

I THINK PEOPLE LOVE IT SO MUCH, I WOULD HATE FOR SOMETHING TO JUST ON THIS BLOCK SOME STANDING THING.

>> SO THE SAFETY CONCERN IS FROM WHERE IT STARTS UP TO, I GUESS YOU WOULD SAY EIGHTH STREET.

>>YOU KNOW WHERE THEY'RE BUILDING THAT HOUSE ON THE CORNER?

>> YEAH.

>> FROM THERE, JUST TO WHERE FIRST LOVE IS, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE STREET IS.

>> EIGHT TO NINE.

>> OH NO, I'M SORRY. WHAT IS THAT?

>> TENTH YES. [OVERLAPPING]

>> BASICALLY AND ASH.

>> THERE'S NO STREET LIGHTS IN THERE STREET IS THAT? ANYWAY, THAT PLACE.

I WAS JUST GOING TO SAY SOMETHING.

BUT THANK YOU ALL.

IT'S BEEN A PLEASURE TO WORK WITH ALL OF YOU AND WALLY AND MR. CLEAN, THANK YOU. THAT'S IT.

>> THAT'S ABOUT IT. THANK YOU BOTH SO MUCH IT HAS BEEN GREAT.

>> NICE TURN.

>> THANK YOU, SCOTT AND KATIE, FOR A GREAT YEAR.

YOU GUYS ARE DOING A LOT, AND IT'S BEEN REALLY HELPFUL AND MERRY CHRISTMAS AND HAPPY HOLIDAYS.

>> JUST WISH EVERYBODY HAPPY AND FUN HOLIDAYS.

WHO WILL BE AROUND FOR THE NEXT YEAR? THANKS.

>> I ALSO WANT TO THANK THE STAFF AT PARKS AND RECREATION FOR DOING AN OUTSTANDING JOB.

SCOTT, YOU REALLY TOOK IT TO A DIFFERENT LEVEL AFTER THE FIRST DIRECTOR.

WE DEFINITELY DO APPRECIATE YOU LEADING US AND KATIE YOU RIGHT BEHIND HIM.

YOU GUYS ARE DOING AN EXCELLENT JOB THIS IS DEFINITELY A REALLY GOOD THING, AND I DO APPRECIATE YOU GUYS COMING UP WITH A THING.

AGAIN, TO MAKE A SPANISH VERSION OF EACH ONE OF THESE.

THANK YOU TO EACH ONE OF YOU GUYS FOR PUTTING UP WITH ME.

I KNOW IT'S NOT EASY.

EACH ONE OF YOU HAVE MADE IMPACT IN OUR CITY, AND I THINK YOU GUYS WILL CONTINUE TO DO THAT.

I WILL BE HERE DURING THOSE MEETINGS TO WELCOME RICHARD AND JACK GUNN.

RICHARD RILEY, IS IT? IS IT RILEY?

>> IT'S KENDALL CURRY.

>> KENDALL CURRY.

>> AND JACK GUNN

>> JACK GUNN, I'M SORRY. I WILL BE HERE AS A CITIZEN AND SPEAKING MY PIECE ON SKATE PARK, I'M SURE.

BUT OTHER THINGS, I THINK IT'S A GOOD THING WHEN WE CAN

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GET SOMEBODY WHO CAN QUESTION WHO'S JUST SITTING THERE AND HOPEFULLY THROW A WRENCH INTO THE SYSTEM EVERY NOW AND THEN.

I WANT TO WISH EVERYBODY HAPPY KWANZAA, HANUKKAH, AND A MERRY CHRISTMAS.

HAPPY NEW YEAR, AND ON JANUARY 4TH, IF YOU GUYS CELEBRATE MAY 6TH, THE EPIPHANY.

THAT'S A BIG DAY FOR THE HISPANICS, ESPECIALLY THE PUERTO RICANS.

THEY CELEBRATE THE ARRIVAL OF THE THREE KINGS AT THE MAJOR.

ALL IN ALL, I THINK THAT IT'S BEEN A REALLY GOOD YEAR AND I LOOK TO THE SUCCESSES OF YOU GUYS.

I REALLY DO, AND I APPRECIATE EACH AND EVERY ONE OF YOU.

THANK YOU FOR EVERYTHING. THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU.

>> FIRST OF ALL, WE HAVE AN AMAZING GROUP OF PEOPLE UP HERE FOR PARKS AND REC ADVISORY BOARD.

I AM SO PROUD TO BE PART OF THIS AGENDA EVERY MONTH BECAUSE EACH AND EVERY ONE OF YOU POUR YOUR HEARTS AND SOUL INTO THIS THING WITH CARE AND MOST OF ALL GIVING, YOU GUYS GIVE A LOT AND YOUR PASSIONS ARE WELL DESERVED BECAUSE YOU BELIEVE IN WHAT WE DO HERE AND HOW WE DO IT.

I TRULY AM VERY BLESSED TO HAVE PEOPLE LIKE YOU THAT COME OUT EVERY TIME AND READY TO DO BATTLE.

I DON'T MEAN BATTLE FOR TO WIN A BALL GAME, BUT BATTLE TO MAKE SURE THAT WE DO THE RIGHT THINGS FOR OUR CITY AND I'M SO PROUD OF THAT.

SECOND OF ALL, I WANT TO THANK PARKS AND REC FROM THEIR MAINTENANCE DEPARTMENT TO THEIR STAFF TO THE PEOPLE THAT WORK THERE EVERY DAY AND SUPPORT US IN OUR CITY.

THEY ARE AN INTEGRAL PART OF THIS CITY, AND THEY MEAN SO MUCH TO US.

WE ALL HAVE A REASON TO BE THANKFUL BECAUSE THEY ARE GOOD OF WHAT THEY DO, AND THEY CONTINUE TO DO IT ON A DAILY, WEEKLY, MONTHLY, WIND, HOT, COLD, YOU NAME IT.

THEY'RE OUT THERE, AND WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT WHEN WE LOOK AT THEM, WE LOOK AT THE FUTURE OF EVERY DAY THAT WE DO BETTER BECAUSE OF PARKS AND REC.

LAST BUT NOT LEAST, CHRISTMAS IS A TIME OF GIVING, AND SHEILA HAS GIVEN ME A GREAT IDEA, AND I WOULD LIKE TO PASS IT ON DECEMBER 25TH.

THE DINNER OR?

>> YEAH.

>> WOULD YOU PLEASE?

>> THE HOMELESS COALITION HAS PARTNERED WITH ST. PETER'S, AND WE DID THIS ON THANKSGIVING.

BUT ON CHRISTMAS DAY FROM 9-11, THEY'RE SERVING LUNCH, ALL YUMMY DELICIOUS THINGS.

IF YOU'D LIKE TO BRING SOMETHING, IF YOU'D LIKE TO COME, IT WAS A LOVELY TIME OF FELLOWSHIP WITH THOSE IN OUR COMMUNITY WHO MAYBE WON'T BE HAVING A HOT MEAL, OTHERWISE.

IT WAS A GREAT WAY TO SPEND WITH THE PEOPLE THAT WERE SOME OF THEM WE'RE SERVING AT THE MALL SHELTER WHEN IT'S COLD AND DEFINITELY IT'S A GOOD WAY TO SPEND A FEW HOURS, AND IT'S A GOOD THING FOR YOUR KIDS TO SEE AND DEFINITELY SOME GOOD FOOD TO EAT.

WE'D LOVE TO HAVE YOU THERE CHRISTMAS MORNING IF YOU'RE FREE.

>> THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU FOR REMEMBERING.

>> THE LAST, WALLY. IT'S BEEN A PLEASURE.

REALLY HAS, AND YOUR DEDICATION HAS BEEN DULY NOTED FOR THE COMING YEARS.

I HOPE WE ALL KEEP THAT PASSION IN OURSELVES.

I WANT TO WISH EACH AND EVERY ONE OF YOU A MERRY CHRISTMAS AND A HAPPY NEW YEAR.

THANK YOU. [NOISE] [LAUGHTER]

>> THAT WAS A GOOD ONE.

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.