[1. CALL TO ORDER]
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>> I'M CALLING THE DECEMBER 3RD CITY COMMISSION MEETING OF
>> MOUNT THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE LED BY COMMISSIONER
POYNTER . >> PLEASE STAY STANDING FOR THE AND VACATION LED BY REVEREND ROBERTS.
>> THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO COME TO THIS PLACE, LORD. TO BE ABLE TO EXPRESS HOW MUCH WE APPRECIATE ALL YOU DO FOR US. THE BLESSINGS YOU HAVE GIVEN TO US TO LIVE IN SUCH A PLACE AS THIS. WE THANK YOU FOR OUR LAW ENFORCEMENT. FOR OUR FIRST RESPONDERS. THE MAGNIFICENT JOB THEY DO FOR US AND THE WAY THEY WATCH OVER AND TAKE CARE OF US IN SO MANY WAYS. LORD, I PRAY YOU BLESS THIS MEETING IN EVERY WAY AND ASK THESE THINGS IN JESUS CHRIST NAME. AMEN.
[4.2 PRESENTATION - NASSAU HUMANE SOCIETY - Nassau Humane Society Executive Director Chantel Scherer will present the "City Commission Dog of the Month." ]
>> FIRST UP FOR PRESENTATIONS I THINK I'LL CALL IT BECAUSE WE HAVE OUR DOG AVAILABLE ALREADY WE WILL DO OUR NASSAU HUMANE
SOCIETY. >> HI, EVERYBODY. I HAVE TINA HERE TODAY.
SHE HAS CANCER. NOT SURE HOW LONG SHE HAS WITH US. WOULD LOVE TO HAVE A LOVING HOME FOR HER LAST FEW MONTHS, MAYBE HER LAST CHRISTMAS, ENJOY HER WHILE SHE IS HERE. GOOD WITH CATS, GOOD WITH OTHER DOGS. IF YOU WANT MORE INFORMATION ON HER -- STOP BY, WE ARE ACROSS THE STREET FROM THE AIRPORT AND WE WOULD LOVE TO INTRODUCE YOU TO ALL OF OUR DOGS AS WELL AS
TINA. >> IF ANYONE WOULD LIKE TO FOSTER TINA OR ADOPT ANY OF YOUR DOGS HOW TO DO THAT?
>> STOP BY OR GIVE US A CALL. ALL OF OUR DETAILS ARE ON THE WEBSITE. WE WILL BE HAPPY TO FIND YOUR PERFECT MATCH.
[4.1 PRESENTATION - "FERNANDINA 200" - In commemoration of Fernandina Beach's 200th Anniversary, Lighthouse Keeper Thomas Patrick O'Hagan will provide a presentation at the first City Commission Regular Meeting of each month in the year 2024.]
>> THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU. HAPPY HOLIDAYS,
EVERYBODY. >> UNFORTUNATELY LIGHTHOUSE KEEPER O'HAGAN IS UNABLE TO JOIN US SO -- WILL REVIEW THE
UPCOMING 200. >> DECEMBER MAPS OF THE FESTIVITIES 200TH ANNIVERSARY FEATURE AT THE MARKETPLACE ON SATURDAYS. DECEMBER 6TH IS THE FERNANDINA BEACH COUNTY TREE LIGHTING CEREMONY.
[4.3 PRESENTATION - ALACHUA STREET OPENING PROJECT - City staff will provide a presentation on the Alachua Street opening project.]
ALACHUA STREET OPENING. >> THANK YOU. PROVIDED A REVIEW OF TWO PROJECTS THAT ARE INTERLEAGUE. A FIVE WHICH IS A STORM DRAINAGE PROJECT AND THE OPENING OF . A VERY COMPLEX PROJECT. HE WILL WALK US THROUGH THAT PRESENTATION AND YOU CAN LOOK TO SEE GROUND -- CONSTRUCTION BEGINNING IN THE
NEXT FEW DAYS. >> ANYTHING. WE HAVE A COUPLE RELATED AGENDA ITEMS COMING BEFORE YOU. THOUGHT THIS WAS A GOOD OPPORTUNITY TO REVIEW EVERYTHING THAT HAS OCCURRED TO GET US TO THIS POINT OF THE PROJECT WHERE CONSTRUCTION IS FINALLY IN THERE. FIRST OF ALL, KIND OF AN OVERVIEW TO GIVE EVERYONE A FRAME OF REFERENCE. REFER TO AREA FIVE, THAT IS ALACHUA STREET FROM SECOND STREET TO FRENCH STREET. THE AREA FIVE DESIGNATION IS FROM OUR STORMWATER MASTER PLAN. ONE OF I THINK 11 AREAS IDENTIFIED IN THAT DOCUMENT. THAT HAS BEEN ATTACHED TO THIS PROJECT AND THE REASON FOR THAT
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NOMENCLATURE. RELATED TO THAT, THE OTHER ITEMS ARE THE EASEMENT HERE ALONG THE ADJACENT PROPERTY. THE EASEMENT ALONG FRONT STREET. THE OTHER HIGHLIGHT, AREA SIX, ASH STREET, FROM FIFTH STREET TO FRENCH STREET. WE HAVE ANOTHER PROJECT WE ENDED UP POSTPONING, ITEM 7.1 OF TONIGHT'S AGENDA, WE HAVE TO POSTPONE THAT DUE TO SOME DISCREPANCIES. BUT TO GIVE YOU AN IDEA, DATACENTER STREET AND ASH STREET STORMWATER DISCHARGES AT THOSE LOCATIONS. BACK TO ALACHUA STREET, AS MOST OF YOU KNOW, DUE TO ESCALATING COST FOR THE ORIGINALLY PLANNED STORMWATER PUMP STATION WE'VE HAD TO KIND OF BACKUP AND COME UP WITH AN ALTERNATIVE PLAN. THIS IS KIND OF A WORKING SKETCH OF WHAT WE WILL BE BEGINNING INSTALL ON THE END OF DECEMBER. SCOPE OF WORK IS TO REHABILITATE EXISTING PIPES ON THE RAILROAD, THE REAL ABILITY STRUCTURES ON ALACHUA STREET.INSTALL INFILTRATION SYSTEM UNDER THE ROADWAY TO PROVIDE STORMWATER TREATMENT, INCREASE THE CAPACITY AND ADDITIONALLY PROVIDE LIMITED STORMWATER TREATMENT FOR ADJACENT PROPERTIES. ONE OF THE ELEMENTS OF THIS PROJECT THAT COINCIDES WITH OUR DOWNTOWN STORMWATER CONCEPTUAL PLAN IS IT ALLOWS FOR ADJACENT PROPERTIES WITHIN THE DEVELOPMENT AREA TO PURCHASE CAPACITY, TREATMENT CAPACITY AND THE OFF-SITE SYSTEM IN LIEU OF ON-SITE STORMWATER TREATMENT. THAT IS AN AGENDA ITEM LATER TONIGHT WE CAN GET INTO THAT MORE. THIS PROJECT, IT STARTED IN 2017. ESSENTIALLY WITH FUNDING THAT WAS PART OF A STATE APPROPRIATION AND HURRICANE MITIGATION GRANT PROGRAM THROUGH FEMA. THAT CAME AS A RESULT OF HURRICANE MATTHEW. WE ORIGINALLY DESIGNED -- HAD OUR CONSULTANT DESIGN THE PROJECT OF THE STORMWATER PUMP STATION AND BID THAT OUT IN APRIL OF 2021. ORIGINAL COST ESTIMATE WAS ONE 29 MILLION. ENDED UP WITH ONE BID. AWARDED THE CONTRACT IN THE AMOUNT OF 2.45 MILLION TO TNG UTILITIES IN JULY OF 2021. THAT RAN US RIGHT INTO PEAK COVID TIME.
SUPPLY-CHAIN REALLY TOOK A TOLL ON THIS PROJECT. WE WERE A YEAR PLUS ON LEADTIMES FOR THIS PROJECT. BY THE TIME WE GOT THE EQUIPMENT AND HAND THE SUBCONTRACTOR, THE COST GOT TO THE POINT WHERE THE CONTRACTOR BASICALLY SAID WE CAN'T BUILD THE PROJECT. WE CAME TO A SETTLEMENT AGREEMENT WITH THE CONTRACTOR. WE TOOK POSSESSION OF ALL OF THE EQUIPMENT THAT HAD BEEN PURCHASED. WE THEN STARTED REGROUPING LOOKING FOR ANOTHER CONTRACT TO PICK UP AND COMPLETE INSTALLATION AND WE GOT PRICES AT 7 MILLION PLUS . THAT DOESN'T MEET COST-BENEFIT CRITERIA FOR THIS PROJECT. IT MET AT AT THE $1.9 MILLION PRICE TAG, BUT THIS JUST WASN'T FEASIBLE. CAME UP WITH THIS ALTERNATE PLAN WE DESIGNED IN-HOUSE AND TWO FUNDING MECHANISMS WE HAVE FOR THIS PROJECT, STATE APPROPRIATION WAS THE FIRST ONE IN THE AMOUNT OF $500,000.
25,000 TOWARD DESIGN. 475 FOR CONSTRUCTION. WE ARE WORKING WITH FTP WHO IS MANAGING THIS GRANT TO REVISE THE SCOPE TO REFLECT THE NEW PROJECT AND COVER THE COST OF THE STORMWATER SYSTEM WHICH IS AROUND $200,000. THE OTHER
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FUNDING WAS TO FACE PROCESS. PHASE ONE WAS TO SIGN A PERMIT.THAT WAS A CONTRACT THAT CAME BEFORE THE COMMISSION FOR APPROVAL AND WE ENTERED INTO AN AGREEMENT WITH FEMA. AND WE'VE BEEN REIMBURSED FOR THE DESIGN PHASE. THEN THAT DESIGN GOES BACK TO THE APPROVAL PROCESS FOR PHASE TWO CONSTRUCTION FUND. NEVER ABLE TO COMPLETE THAT PROCESS WITH FEMA.
OBVIOUSLY THE ORIGINAL SCOPE HAS BEEN ABANDONED. NO LONGER A VIABLE PROCESS. WE ARE GOING TO FINALIZE WITHDRAWAL OF THAT WITH FEMA, BUT THERE IS NO ACTION NECESSARY ON THE COMMISSION'S PART. COST TO DATE. JUST TO SHOW YOU WHERE WERE AT. THE DESIGN PERMITTING WE'VE SPENT 260,000 AND REIMBURSED -- FOR THE TWO PROGRAMS. JUST EQUIPMENT, NO CONSTRUCTION ACTUALLY TOOK PLACE, THAT IS THAT $988,000.
THE AVAILABLE FUNDING WE HAVE FOR THE PROJECT IS REMAINING AT 2.94 MILLION. THOSE ARE ARPA FUNDS. AMERICAN RESCUE PLAN THAT WAS FUNDED FOR INFRASTRUCTURE PROJECTS AS A RESULT OF THE COVID SITUATION. THOSE FUNDS ARE IN HAND AND AVAILABLE. CRA FUNDING IN THE AMOUNT OF 700 THOUSAND DOLLARS.
ROADWAY IMPROVEMENT $743,000. ALREADY APPROVED TWO PURCHASE ORDERS FOR ASPHALT CONCRETE IN THAT AMOUNT. STORMWATER IMPROVEMENTS. WE HAVE THE EQUIPMENT ON ORDER. $20,000 WHICH WE HOPE TO BE ABLE TO RECOVER FROM FTP. THE CSX CROSSING, THAT IS A CONSTRUCTION WILL BEGIN NEXT WEEK, $955,000. EASEMENT ACQUISITION RELATED TO THE AGENDA ITEM ON TONIGHT'S AGENDA, $100,000. THAT BRINGS US JUST SHY OF $1.4 MILLION. AFTER THIS CONSTRUCTION IS COMPLETE WE WILL HAVE REMAINING FUND BALANCE OF 2.39 MILLION WHICH IS AVAILABLE FOR ANY OTHER INFRASTRUCTURE PROJECTS.
MY RECOMMENDATION WOULD BE TO LEAVE THAT FUNDING IN PLACE.
GETTING TO A POINT TO BID OUT AND POTENTIALLY ME THAT FUNDING TO COMPLETE THAT STORMWATER PROJECT. I WILL PAUSE THERE BEFORE I GIVE YOU AN OVERVIEW OF AREA SIX.
>> QUICK QUESTION, DO WE HAVE 700,000 IN THE CRA FUND?
>> CORRECT ME IF I AM WRONG. THAT WAS LOAN PROCEEDS. I DON'T KNOW THE MECHANISM FOR THAT.
>> WE CURRENTLY DO NOT. THAT BALANCES DOWN. THOSE FUNDS ARE WORKING TOWARDS THE PROJECT, BUT THEY WERE SPENT
] WE HAD 700,000 IN THE CRA? >> YES.
>> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? >> I HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT THE EQUIPMENT WE PURCHASED FOR THE ORIGINAL DESIGN. I UNDERSTAND SOME OF IT -- WAS AT THE GENERATOR?
>> YES. WE ARE LOOKING AT REPURPOSED THING THAT FOR ONE OF OUR WASTEWATER LIFT STATIONS. WE FORGOT -- GOT OUR CONSULTANT LOOKING AT THAT FEASIBILITY IN THAT CASE WASTEWATER WOULD PURCHASE THAT AND REIMBURSED STORMWATER FOR THAT. WE'VE ALSO GOT THE PUMPS AND THE CONCRETE VAULTS WORKING WITH THOSE VENDORS TO TRY TO EITHER RESTOCK OR FIND ANOTHER BUYER WHO CAN UTILIZE THAT EQUIPMENT AND RECOUP SOME OF THAT. LOOKING AT ANY RESOURCES WE CAN TO TRY TO RECOVER THE COST. KIND OF A QUICK OVERVIEW ON AREA SIX, THIS IS THE ASH STREET PROJECT. WE HAVE $525,000 IN RESILIENCY GRANT
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FUNDING AWARDED IN 2023. WE ARE ABOUT 80% COMPLETE ON THE DESIGN FOR THAT AND HOPE INTO GET THAT PROJECT BID EARLY NEXT YEAR SO WE TRULY KNOW WHAT THE CONSTRUCTION COST IS. THE STORMWATER MASTER PLAN CONCEPT PLAN PUTS THE $2.1 MILLION.THOSE ARE 20 $17. WE TWEAKED THE SCOPE A LITTLE BIT SO I DON'T THINK
>> STORMWATER LIENS AND INLETS FROM FRONT STREET TO FIFTH STREET. THE LINES ARE UNDERSIZED. WE GET A LOT OF FLOODING RIGHT HERE AT THE FOOT OF ASH STREET ON THE RAILROAD TRACKS. UPGRADE THOSE LINES, IMPROVE CAPACITY, INSTALLATION OF CHECK FILES FOR FLOODING UNDER THE RAILROAD. SOME SORT OF WATER QUALITY STRUCTURE. USUALLY A VORTEX SEPARATOR THAT WILL CLEAN OUT TRASH AND OTHER DEBRIS FROM THE DISCHARGE.
>> WON'T INVOLVE IN FRUSTRATION -- AND FILTRATION SYSTEM OR
PIPE UPGRADE. >> THE PIPES CURRENTLY UNDER THE TRACK, USE THOSE AND TRY TO STORMWATER OUT HERE?
>> FOR NASSAU COUNTY EVENTUALLY, YES. THERE ARE TWO PIPES THERE IN BETTER CONDITION THAN WHAT WE INITIALLY THOUGHT WHEN WE STARTED DIGGING INTO IT A LITTLE BIT MORE. CONFIDENT WE CAN REALLY DEBILITATE THOSE. SIMILAR TO WHAT WE DO WITH OUR WASTEWATER LIENS. PRESERVE THE INTEGRITY OF THOSE PIPES. ASH STREET, WE ARE LOOKING AT NEW LINES.
>> POSITION TIMELINE WISE. WITH ALACHUA STREET WE RAN UP AGAINST DEADLINES FOR THESE GRANTS EXPIRING. WE HAVE CSX WHERE THERE ARE A LOT MORE MOVING PIECES. ASH STREET CROSSING IS ALREADY UPGRADED. I THINK WE CAN MAKE THAT PROJECT
WORK. >> WILL YOU DO EVERYTHING UNDERGROUND OR TEAR ASH STREET UP?
>> WE WILL HAVE TO TEAR IT UP. WE ARE HOLDING OFF ON PAVING THAT. WE OBVIOUSLY KNOW THERE ARE A LOT OF PAYMENT ISSUES THERE. THAT'S BEEN SCHEDULED AND THERE WAS URGENCY PLAN AROUND THIS PROJECT. EXCAVATION REMOVE AND REPLACE INLETS SO IT WILL BE SOMETHING WE HAVE TO SCHEDULE AROUND DOWNTOWN EVANS AND EVERYTHING WE HAVE GOING ON.
>> HOW LONG DO YOU THINK THE PROJECT WILL TAKE?
>> IT IS TOUGH TO SAY. IF WE GET A CONTRACTOR IN HERE WHO HAS A GOOD WORKFORCE AND CAN REALLY KNOCK IT OUT IT CAN BE DONE IN A COUPLE OF MONTHS. WE CERTAINLY DO NOT WANT TO TOIL WITH THIS. WE WANT TO GET IN AND OUT.
>> ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS? CONTINUE.
>> JUST TO GIVE YOU AN IDEA, ON ACCOUNT OF THE STREETSCAPE HERE FOR ALACHUA STREET, THIS IS WHAT WE WANT TO BE INSTALLING AND ESSENTIALLY GOING TO MIRROR THE STREETSCAPE FOR THE SIDE STREETS WE HAVE NOW. 10 FOOT SIDEWALKS, PARALLEL PARKING WHERE WE CAN FIT IT WITH THE ACCESSES FOR ADJACENT PROPERTIES. THE CROSSING WILL HAVE PEDESTRIAN, SIMILAR TO WHAT ASH STREET HAS. CROSSING ON THE SOUTH SIDE. YOU SEE THIS IS THE FUTURE SIDEWALK RELATED TO THE EASEMENT AGREEMENT. THIS IS THE SCHEDULE WE ARE WORKING WITH CURRENTLY AS FAR AS COMPLETION OF THE PROJECT. THE LONGEST LEAD TIME WILL BE THE
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SIGNAL INSTALLATION BY THE RAILROAD. LOOKING AT END OF MARCH FOR THAT FOR THE ROAD TO BE FORMALLY OPENED AND USABLE.ONCE WE GET EVERYTHING -- PAVEMENT AND EVERYTHING IN PLACE WE WILL NEED TO BARRICADE IT OFF. SO WORKING CLOSELY WITH THE RAILROAD TO MANAGE DIFFERENT CONTRACTORS WORKING IN THE AREA. AND THAT IS ALL I HAVE FOR YOU.
>> THANK YOU. ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS? BEFORE I FORGET, I WANTED TO ACKNOWLEDGE MS. CAMPBELL FORMALLY BEING AT THE HOME TODAY. LOOKING FORWARD TO HAVING YOU GET STARTED. AS HE TOLD ME WHEN I WAS IN CHIROPRACTIC SCHOOL, LEARNING HOW TO DRINK FROM A FIRE HOSE WITH ALL OF THAT INFORMATION.
[5. PUBLIC COMMENT REGARDING ITEMS NOT ON THE AGENDA OR ITEMS ON THE CONSENT AGENDA]
WE ARE HAPPY TO SUPPORT YOU AS BEST WE CAN. MOVING FORWARD WE PUBLIC COMMENT FOR ITEMS NOT ON THE AGENDA. STARTING OFF WEHAVE MISS KELLY YATES. >> GOOD EVENING. KELLY YATES, 670 SPANISH WAY. REGARDING THE ESTIMATED POPULATION FIRST READ AT THE CITY MEETING, I SPEAK ENGLISH, NOT MADE UP WOKE NONSENSE. I DO NOT LIE, USE PROPER HONORIFIC TITLES BECAUSE THERE IS NO HONOR FOR 10 PRONOUNS AND HENCE DEGRADING ASSAULT ON THE CITIZENS OF FERNANDINA BEACH. CITY LEADERS REPRESENT THE MAJORITY, NOT THE TRANS MINORITY. PRIDE CAN SPIN ALL THEY LIKE, BUT THERE REALLY -- REAL HATE IS COMING FROM THE RADICAL ACTIVIST WANT TO CHANGE THE WORD PEDOPHILE TO MINOR ATTRACTED PERSON WHICH IS A NEFARIOUS TACTIC TO CHANGE THE WORD CHANGE THE MIND-SET SO SIN IS NORMALIZED AND ACCEPTED IN SOCIETY. AFTER ALL, IF LOVE IS LOVE WHAT IS STOPPING A PEDOPHILE FROM LOVING AND LUSTING AFTER A CHILD. LOVE IS NOT LOVE YOUR LOVE HAS RESPECT, LOVE HAS VALUE SUCH AS GOD'S GOLDEN ADEQUATE RULE, YOU SHALL NOT COVET YOUR NEIGHBOR'S WIFE PRIDE DOESN'T HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO DEFINE WHAT A WOMAN IS FEAR THAT AUTHORITY BELONGS TO OUR CREATOR, AS OUR DECLARATION OF INDEPENDENCE STATES. -- IN THE GUISE OF HUMAN RIGHTS TO FORCE THEIR AGENDA ON THE PUBLIC, DECEITFULLY HIDING BEHIND WORDS INCLUSIVE, EQUALITY, PSYCHOLOGICAL . CAMPAIGN TO DISTRACT PEOPLE INTO ACCEPTING THEIR SICK IDEOLOGY. ACTIVIST PREY ON VICTIMS WITH PAST TRAUMA SUCH AS CHILD ABUSE, PORNOGRAPHY, BROKEN FAMILY, OR SUFFERING LACK OF CONFIDENCE WHICH ARE CONTRIBUTING FACTORS OF THIS DEMONIC CULT MOVEMENT WHICH THE A RELIGIOUS CULT, IT IS A BIO TECHNICAL WARFARE IN DRAG.
EVERY DAY WE ARE LEARNING OF THE TRANSITION AS HE RELIED TO AND ARE NOW EMBRACING THE TRUTH AND RESPECTING THEIR GOD-GIVEN.
WOMEN'S UNDERWEAR AND WROTE DISTURBING BOOKS FANTASIZING ABOUT CHILDREN. ALLOWING UNSTABLE MEN TO TREAT WOMEN AS A COSTUME AND VIOLATE WOMEN AND GIRLS PRIVATE SPACES IS A DEMENTED MIND-SET THAT PUTS CHILDREN AT HIGH RISK OF PEDOPHILES ALLOWING BDSM DESECRATING OUR LORD'S CROSS TO TEACH CHILDREN TO PULL DANCE IN A CHILDREN'S PARK IS ALL IN VIOLATION OF CHAPTER 847 FLORIDA OBSCENITY LAW. AND IT IS AN UNNECESSARY NASTY LAWSUIT JUST WAITING TO HAPPEN. ACTING OUT OF SEXUAL FETISH IN THE CHILDREN'S PARK IS SOMETHING A SHOP OR STRIP CLUB WOULD NOT TOLERATE AND IS A MORE RESPECTABLE ESTABLISHMENT BECAUSE STANDARDS TO PROTECT CHILDREN. PEOPLE WHO THINK IT IS OKAY TO WELCOME PEDOPHILIA TO A CHILDREN'S PARK ARE COMPLICIT WITH THE DEVIL INAUDIBLE - OVERLAPPING SPEAKERS ]
>> NEXT UP WE HAVE A NUMBER OF COMMENTS. PLEASE KEEP THE
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VOLUME DOWN. YOU MAY DISAGREE WITH OPINION, BUT PEOPLE DO HAVE THE RIGHT TO SAY IT. I WOULD LIKE MR. JEREMIAH AND A -- TO GIVE US A LITTLE BIT OF BACKGROUND AND THEN WE WILL ALLOW ALL THOSE COMMENTS TO COME THROUGH.>> ON TO PROVIDE A LITTLE INFORMATION ON THE PROPOSED PROJECTS WE HAVE ON THE HORIZON. THOUGHT AND INFRASTRUCTURE PROVIDE UPDATE AT THE LAST MEETING DETAILING SOME OF THAT AND IT BROUGHT UP SOME COMMUNIY CONCERNS RELATING TO THE D.A.R.T. DREDGING PROCESS, HOW IT WORKS, WHAT WE MAY OR MAY NOT GET SO I WANT TO PROVIDE MORE INFORMATION ON THAT. THERE ARE TWO PROJECTS COMING UP.
LOCALIZATION OF THE KINGS BAY DREDGING -- THIS IS MAINTENANCE DREDGING TO CONTINUE TO PROVIDE A DEEP ENOUGH CHANNEL FOR KINGS BAY NAVAL BASE. THAT IS SCHEDULED UNDERWAY FIRST.
REGULAR MAINTENANCE PROJECT WHERE THEY TAKE THE SAND FROM THE DREDGING AND PUT IT ON THE NORTH BEACH AREA. THIS COMING YEAR LOOKING TO ABOUT 280,000 CUBIC YARDS. A DUMP TRUCK IS ABOUT 18 CUBIC YARDS SO WE WILL GET A LOT OF SAND ON THE BEACH.
THERE IS A LOT OF EROSION ACTIVITY ON THE NORTH DUE TO THE CURRENT TITLE FLOW SO IT IS NECESSARY TO KEEP BEACHES HEALTHY TO KEEP IT FROM ERODING AWAY. WE'VE DONE THIS FOR NUMBER OF YEARS NOW. EVERY FEW YEARS WE WILL DO A SHORT RESTORATION PROJECT. THAT WILL FOLLOW THIS ONE. THAT IS FURTHER SOUTH TO BRING SAND IN LOST DURING HIGH EROSION DURING HURRICANE NICOLE, 2022 IF MY MEMORY SERVES ME CORRECTLY. WE DO THIS, A LOT OF OTHER COMMUNITIES DO IT. IT KEEPS OUR BEACHES HEALTHY, KEEPS THEM GROWING. HAVE A GROWING DUNE SYSTEM. IF YOU GO DOWN TO SOME OF OUR BEACH BOARDWALK IT ONLY GOES ABOUT TWO THIRDS AND YOU HAVE TO WALK TO SEND THE REST OF THE WAY, THAT IS BECAUSE OUR DUNE SYSTEM IS GOING WHICH IS A GOOD PROBLEM TO HAVE BECAUSE DUNES ARE OUR FIRST LINE OF DEFENSE DURING THE STORM. THERE'S BEEN CONCERNS ABOUT EQUIPMENT SUPPOSED TO BE USED IN THE UPCOMING DREDGING PROJECT. THE EXTRACTOR IS THE ONE THAT'S BEEN DISCUSSED AS YOU'VE SEEN IT ONLINE -- IT IS A NEW PURPOSE BUILT MACHINE USED SPECIFICALLY FOR DREDGING. THERE ARE A LOT OF DIFFERENT DREDGING EQUIPMENT OUT THERE. ALL OF THE DREDGING EQUIPMENT WILL NOT SAY ALL , I WILL SAY MOST BECAUSE THERE MAY BE SOME BRANDS THAT DON'T HAVE IT, BUT THEY HAVE A FILTRATION SYSTEM IN PLACE THAT IS CRITICAL TO MAKE SURE YOU ARE NOT BRINGING UP HAZARDOUS MATERIALS INTO THE MACHINE. NOT ONLY DAMAGING THE MACHINE, BUT PUTTING THE SAME HAZARDOUS MATERIAL ON THE BEACH WITHOUT TALKING ABOUT THE COMMUNITY WHERE IT HAPPENED THERE WAS AN ISSUE WHERE SOME AMMUNITION WAS BROUGHT UP IN A CHILD FOUNDED AND IT WAS A LIVE AMMUNITION. THAT NEEDED ANOTHER LOOK. THE ARMY CORPS IS THE BRANCH THAT MANAGES THESE PROJECTS FOR THE U.S. NAVY. SO THEY ARE THE ONES THAT MANAGE THE PROJECT AND WE HAVE A CONSULTANT WE WORK WITH TO BE THAT BRIDGE TO PROVIDE INFORMATION AND WORK WITH HIM DURING THE PROJECT. BACK TO THE EXTRACTOR. THIS IS A MACHINE THAT'S BEEN USED THROUGHOUT FLORIDA. DEUEL COUNTY USED TO FOR THEIR SHORT RESTORATION PROJECT AS HOUSE -- AND SO HAS JONES COUNTY. IT IS DONE ALL UP AND DOWN THE COASTLINE. IT IS CRITICAL WHERE YOU HAVE PORT OF ENTRY, CRITICAL IF YOU HAVE A MILITARY BASE. THE CONCERN IS THAT SHELLS AND TEETH BECAUSE THAT IS A MAJOR DRAW TO OUR COMMUNITY AS EVIDENT BY THE TURNOUT TONIGHT. I KNOW THAT IS PART OF WHY PEOPLE ARE HERE. IT MAKES IT UNIQUE THAT WE DO HAVE HEAVY SHELL CONTENT. BECAUSE DREDGING. THAT BRINGS A LOT OF IT. THE SCREENING MECHANISM ON THIS PARTICULAR PROJECT IS A TWO INCH BY TWO AND SCREENING MECHANISM TO FILTER OUT HAZARDOUS MATERIAL. THERE IS A LOT OF STUFF ON THE OCEAN FLOOR FROM OLD SHRIMP METS -- I KNOW I LOST A FEW ANCHORS OVER THE YEARS. THEIR SHARP METAL MATERIAL THAT COULD BE A PROBLEM IF DEPOSITED ON THE BEACH. ANYTHING LARGER THAN THAT IS INSPECTED AND IF IT IS ORGANIC MATERIAL AND IT SHOULD BE ON THE BEACH THEN IT IS ADDED TO THE FILL AND -- REGULAR TITLE ACTION THAT IS HOW A LOT OF THESE
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] THE SECOND PROJECT, THE CORE HAS WRITTEN IN A TIGHTER SCREENING. THREE-QUARTER INCH SCREEN. I'M STILL WAITING FOR INFORMATION FROM THE CORE AS TO WHY THAT REQUIRED A TIGHTER SCREEN. THEY ARE VERY SPECIFIC IN THEIR BID SPECS BECAUSE THESE ARE VERY COMPLEX, VERY EXPENSIVE PROJECTS THAT NEED TO MEET A LOT OF REQUIREMENTS. SO IT IS VERY INVOLVED. THE SECOND PROJECT TO THE DESIGNATED SIGH, PUMP SAND ONTO THE BEACH WITH A SERIES OF PIPES AND THEN YOU HAVE VERY LARGE BULLDOZERS MOVING THE MATERIAL AROUND. THE QUESTION IS WHAT HAPPENS TO SOME OF THE SHELLS? SPECIFICALLY BIG SHELLS, ANYTHING THAT WOULD NOT FIT INTO THE TWO INCH BY TWO INCH SCREEN FALLS INTO A SECOND CONTAINER -- A BUCKET FOR INSPECTION TO MAKE SURE IT IS NOT HAZARDOUS MATERIAL. THEY USE MAGNETS TO THROW -- PULL ANYTHING HAZARDOUS OUT. ANOTHER THING WE SOMETIMES PULL UP HIS OLD WOULD . ALSO OLD DOCK MATERIALS FROM PREVIOUS STORMS. SOMETIMES IT WILL PULL THAT UP FROM THE BOTTOM AS WELL AND THEY LOOK FOR THAT. PREVIOUS DREDGE PROJECTS WE REMOVED -- THE CONTRACTOR -- LESSON ABOUT 20 CUBIC YARDS OF UNWANTED MATERIAL. YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT ONE DUMP TRUCK LOAD OUT OF HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF CUBIC YARDS OF MATERIAL SO WE DON'T GET A LOT. IT IS A PRECAUTIONARY MEASURE THE CORE REQUIRES OF CONTRACTORS IN THE DREDGE OPERATION. UNWANTED MATERIAL IS DISCARDED AND ANYTHING THAT IS ORGANIC AND BELONGS ON THE BEACH, BELONGS IN THE OCEAN IS ADDED BACK TO THE FILL AND DEPOSITED ON THE BEACH AND SPREAD WITHOUT EQUIPMENT. WE CAN TALK ABOUT THIS -- WE WILL CONTINUE TO TALK ABOUT IT, BUT THAT IS A LITTLE MORE INFORMATION THAN WHAT WAS ORIGINALLY PROVIDED.SOME INFORMATION WAS PUSHED OUT THAT CALLED INTO QUESTION THE ABILITY -- AVAILABILITY OF SHARKS TEETH, SHELLS, OTHER FOSSILIZED MATERIAL. IT IS CRITICAL TO MAINTAINING OUR BEACHES AND WE ABSOLUTELY WANT THAT TO STAY. WE'VE HAD CONVERSATIONS WITH THE COURT AND THE BEACH CONSULTANT ASKING FOR MORE CLARIFICATION ON THIS AND WE ARE PREPARED TO ASK THE CORE, HEY, WHEN YOU ARE DOING THE INSPECTION WHAT ASSURANCES OF THIS MATERIAL WHAT ASSURANCES ARE THAT MY BLOOD ON TOOTH THAT MAYBE THAT DOESN'T GO INTO THE POCKET OF WHOEVER'S THERE. SO WE WILL ASK WHAT ASSURANCES THEY HAVE.
THERE IS A VERY STRICT CONTRACTOR BID PROCESS. IT'S TO THE MILITARY SO A LOT OF CHECKS AND BALANCES. SOME WOULD HAVE TO MASSAGE BUT TO TELL US WHAT THEY ARE BECAUSE WE DO HAVE A NUCLEAR NAVY BASE HERE. WE WILL CONTINUE TO WORK WITH HIM TO GET MORE INFORMATION TO BE AS TRANSPARENT AS POSSIBLE.
BUT THAT IS ADDITIONAL INFORMATION TO WHAT WE HAD PREVIOUSLY WHICH AM I TO SHARE WITH THE COMMISSION AND THE
COMMUNITY. >> I WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE THE COURSE RESPONSE ON THIS ISSUE AS WELL AS HOW THIS CAME ABOUT.
DREDGING IS PROVIDED WHEN WE ARE ABLE TO SHOW WE HAVE IMPACT FROM THE STORM AND THAT IS COVERED AT EITHER 100% OR NEAR 100%. I WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE WHAT THE IMPACT WOULD BE TO THE RESIDENTS FROM A TAX PERSPECTIVE IF WE DIDN'T HAVE THIS. WITH THAT BEING SAID, WE LOOK FORWARDTO HEARING EVERYONE'S CONCERNS, QUESTIONS, SEEING IF THERE IS ANYTHING THAT HASN'T BEEN ANSWERED WE CAN ADDRESS. WITH THAT BEING SAID, WE WILL START WITH MISS SUZANNE --. AND I WILL DO MY BEST TO GO IN ORDER OF CITY RESIDENTS AND NON-CITY, BUT I WILL DIVIDE BY TOPIC IF IT'S OKAY WITH THAT AS WE HAVE ONE AT A TIME JUST TO MAKE IT EVENING. I GREW UP IN PORTLAND, OREGON. I SPENT A LOT OF TIME ON THE OREGON COAST
>> EXCUSE ME, YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD.
>> SUZANNE TASHA 95209 GOLDEN GLOW DRIVE, FERNANDINA BEACH. I GREW UP IN OREGON AND I WENT TO CAMP IN THE SUMMERS FROM THE TIME I WAS THIRD GRADE TO PROBABLY ABOUT SEVENTH GRADE AND IT WAS MARINE BIOLOGY CAMP. THE FUN OF IT IS GOING TO THE BEACH AND JUST LIKE WE DO HERE. SO I AM REALLY CONCERNED ABOUT ANYTHING BIGGER THAN TWO INCHES NOT BEGIN OUT ON THE BEACH.
I'VE ALWAYS LOVED THE OCEAN. WE HAVE PEOPLE WHO COME FROM OUT OF TOWN AND THEY GO SHARK TOOTH HUNTING AND SHELLING. IT IS SO UNICARE. I'VE AND OTHER BEACHES ALL OVER THE WORLD AND THERE IS REALLY NOTHING LIKE THIS. SO MY FEELING IS I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE DO THE RIGHT THING BECAUSE ONCE IT IS DONE IT CANNOT BE UNDONE. THAT IS MY CONCERN.
>> THANK YOU. NEXT UP WE HAVE KELLY MORALES. IF YOU WOULD
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START WITH YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD.>> I AM NOT USUALLY THE PERSON WHO LIKE TO COME UP IN SECRET I'M PRETTY UNCOMFORTABLE. BUT I BOUGHT A HOUSE HERE IN 2018.
MY NAME IS KELLY WALLACE ON NATIONAL FLETCHER, FERNANDINA BEACH. I SPECIFICALLY CHOSE NORTH AND EVEN THOUGH REALTORS GUIDED ME TOWARDS THE SOUTH END. THE SOUTH AND TO ME LOOKS LIKE EVERYBODY'S BEACHES. THE NORTH END IS RUGGED. IT MAY NOT BE EVERYBODY'S CUP OF TEA, BUT WE CARE SO MUCH ABOUT OUR DUNES. IN THOSE DUNES ARE TORTOISES, -- EVERYBODY CARES ABOUT TORTOISES, BUT WHAT ABOUT THE MOLLUSK? HOW WILL NOT BE AFFECTED? WHAT ABOUT THE SAND DOLLARS? WHAT IMPACT WILL THAT HAVE ON THE LAND ANIMALS? THE BIRDS THAT RELY UPON SOME OF THIS. WERE PALEONTOLOGIST HIRED, HISTORIANS , THINGS LIKE THAT WE HAVE IN OUR MARITIME MUSEUM. WERE THE BOTANISTS HIRED? I THINK THIS COULD HAVE MORE. JUST FROM AN EMOTIONAL PERSPECTIVE, WHEN I WALK ACROSS THAT BEACH AND I FIND EVERYTHING TO BE A TREASURE. IF IT IS SEE GLASS IT IS GORGEOUS TO ME. A PIECE OF POTTERY I THINK PICASSO PAINTED IT. I CARE ABOUT THE MEDICAL ADD-ONS, BUT I ALSO CARE ABOUT --, A BIG SHOW FOR FLORIDA. BUT THOSE WOULD NOT ONLY PUT IN WITH THE DREDGE AND I DO HAVE CONCERNS. I USED TO DO BIDDING WITH THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT FOR VA HOSPITALS. IT ALL COMES DOWN TO MONEY. MY CONCERN IS I'M AFRAID WE THE CITIZENS WILL SUFFER AS WELL AS THE TORTOISE. IT IS ONE THING IN THIS COMMUNITY, AS YOU CAN SEE, THAT DRAWS US TOGETHER. WE ARE NOT TALKING ABOUT POLITICS OR PEDOPHILES. WERE TALKING ABOUT DID YOU SEE THIS GIANT TOOTH I FOUND. WAY MORE THAN FOUR INCHES. THIS WILL NOT BE THERE. IF YOU DON'T THINK THIS IS GOING INTO PEOPLE'S POCKETS, IT WILL. THE SHELL I PAINTED LOOKS UGLY NOW, THAT IS BEAUTIFUL IN ITS NATURAL STATE.
YOU WILL NOT HAVE THIS OR THIS WHICH IS A LIVING CREATURE.
THIS IS A MOLLUSK. I DON'T FIND THEM PARTICULARLY PRETTY, HOWEVER WHAT COMES OUT OF THEM? MY QUESTION IS HOW MUCH HAVE WE BEEN HELD WITH THE CORPS OF ENGINEERS ABOUT THE IMPACT ON THE TORTOISES, THE TURTLES. WE HAVE A WONDERFUL DIVERSE BIRDING COMMUNITY. IT IS HUGE. WHAT ARE WE DOING IN THE NAME OF SUGAR BEACHES. IF YOU WANT SUGAR BEACH GO TO THE SOUTH END. IF YOU WANT THE ASSENTED RUGGED BEAUTY COME ACROSS TO MY HOUSE. IT IS INSANELY BEAUTIFUL. IF YOU DON'T WANT TO WEAR FLIP-FLOPS I GET IT, GO SOMEWHERE ELSE. AS FOR ME, I'LL TAKE RUGGED BEAUTY, I WILL TAKE MAJOR, I WILL TAKE THE ANIMALS OVER EVERYTHING ELSE. AND THIS IS SOMETHING THAT CAN UNIFY US.
EVERYTHING DOES NOT HAVE TO BE A POLITICAL THINK IT UNFORTUNATELY THAT IS WHAT SEEMS TO HAPPEN. THIS IS AND WOKE UP. THIS IS A HOBBY. OUR KIDS LEARNING, ELDERLY PEOPLE .
WE ALL TALK, HAND THINGS OUT, COMMUNICATE. WE ACTUALLY LIKE ONE ANOTHER. WE HAVE MORE IN COMMON THAN WE DON'T. ONE OF THE WAYS WE CAN DO IT RIGHT HERE IS KEEPING THE THING THAT DIFFERENTIATES US FROM OTHER PLACES. -- MAKES AN ENTIRE TOUR IS THE MOMENT ALL AROUND SEA SHELLS AND WE HAVE 18,000 PEOPLE ON SOMETHING HUNTING ON -- ALONE. I WASN'T VERY WELL SPOKEN, BUT I AM VERY PASSIONATE. THANK YOU.
>> MIXED UP WE HAVE LAUREL STRONG?
>> HI. LAUREL STRONG, 914 DIVISION STREET. ABOUT 25 YEARS AGO I CAME HERE TO VISIT A FRIEND AND THE FIRST DAY OF MY VISIT I WENT TO THE BEACH. I FOUND SOMETHING I HAD NEVER SEEN BEFORE. I TOOK IT TO MY FRIEND AND SHE SAID, THAT IS A SHARKS TOOTH. I WAS ASTONISHED. SHE STARTED TELLING ME ALL ABOUT SHARK TEETH. I WENT HOME FROM THAT VISIT, QUIT MY JOB, SOLD MY HOUSE, AND MOVED HERE. WAS IT BECAUSE OF SHARKS TEETH? YES AND NO. YES, EVERY DAY I WENT TO THE BEACH. TO FIND SHARKS TEETH, SAND DOLLARS, LION CLAW SHELLS, WELK'S. IT
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IS NOT THE ONLY REASON. IT WASN'T EVEN THE PRIMARY REASON, BUT IT WAS A REASON. AND EACH DAY I GO TO THE BEACH I SEE THE EYES OF CHILDREN, SENIORS, AND THOSE IN BETWEEN LIGHT UP UPON FINDING SHARKS TEETH. PLEASE DO NOT TAKE BEACH TREASURES AWAY. THESE TREASURES NOT ONLY AFFECT BEACHGOERS, BUT SMALL BUSINESSES AND ENTREPRENEURS WHO RELY ON SHARK TEETH, FOSSILS, AND SHELLS TO MAKE A LIVING AND PAY TAXES.TOURISTS WHO VISIT WALKED THE BEACHES IN SEARCH OF SHARKS TEETH, FOSSILS, AND SHELLS AS PART OF THE IDENTITY OF THIS
TOWN. THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU.
>> PHILLIPS. THEY MAKE IT EVENING, COMMISSIONERS MARION PHILLIPS, 724 SOUTH SIX STREET. THE EXTRACTOR IS ESSENTIALLY A LARGE SCREENING DEVICE THAT SEPARATES UNSUITABLE MATERIAL GREATER THAN THREE QUARTERS OF AN INCH FROM THE SAND BEFORE THE SAND IS DEEMED SURE WORTHY. MY QUESTION, NO OTHER TIME HAS THIS MACHINE BEEN USED HONOR BEACHES. WHY NOW? AND WHO ORCHESTRATED THIS MACHINE TO BE USED? THE EXTRACTOR HAS BEEN USED UP AND DOWN THE EASTERN SEABOARD FOR BEACH PROJECTS TO REMOVE THIS TYPE OF SO-CALLED UNSUSTAINABLE MATERIAL FOR BEACH PROJECTS. ACCORDING TO THE INFORMATION IN MY RESEARCH, UNSUITABLE MATERIALS ARE WOODY DEBRIS, GLASS, METALLIC OBJECTS, OTHER THINGS FROM THE SEAFLOOR. WE HAVE SHIPWRECKS OFFSHORE THAT HAVE BEEN MOVED BY THE CURRENTS ON OUR SEAFLOOR. ITEMS SUCH AS GOLD COINS, PIECES OF THE SHIPS, SPIKES THAT WERE IN THE SHIPS, ET CETERA, HAVE BEEN FOUND BY TREASURE HUNTERS ON OUR BEACH. IN THE LATE 70S MY SONS FATHER ACTUALLY FOUND A VERY LARGE MASTODON TOOTH. HE SENT THIS TO THE SMITHSONIAN WHERE IT IS TODAY. HE FOUND HUNDREDS OF SHARKS TEETH OVER HIS YEARS OF LIVING HERE AND BECAME BORN HERE. THAT'S BEING BORN HERE. SOME OF THOSE ARTIFACTS WERE HUNDREDS OF SHARKS TEETH, ARTIFACTS FROM SHIP SUCH AS POTTERY, INDIAN ARTIFACTS, COINS, SEVERAL LARGE MY BLOOD ON TEETH MY SON NOW OWNS. TOURISTS AND LOCALS FLOCK TO OUR BEACHES TO TREASURE HUNT. THIS MACHINE IF USED WELL ELIMINATE VALUABLE ITEMS TO SOME THAT MIGHT BE TRASH BUT TO OTHERS THEY ARE TREASURES. OUR BEACHES ARE NOT DESTINED FOR PANAMA CITY TYPE TO BEACHES WITH POWDERED SAND. WE HAVE NATURAL BEACHES AND THEY SHOULD BE LEFT ALONE WITH THE NATURAL SAND AND ROLEX PUMPED -- RELICS PUMPED ONTO OUR BEACH BY INAUDIBLE ] I WANT TO CALL CONGRESSMAN -- TO ASKED TO STOP THE ARMY CORPS FROM USING THE MACHINE DURING THE JUDGING PROCESS. I ALSO SENT THE PRESENTATION IN THE LAST MEETING TO HIS OFFICE. IF OUR CITY COMMISSION HAS THE POWER TO STOP THIS MACHINE FROM BEING USED BY ALL MEANS PLEASE SEE THAT THE ARMY CORPS DOES NOT USE THIS WHILE JUDGING. IF THIS MACHINE IS ALLOWED TO BE USED WE WILL LOSE A LOT OF OUR TOURISTS WHO COME TO FOSSIL HUNT. NOT TO MENTION OUR TAXPAYERS WHO LIVE HERE AND ENJOY THE TREASURES THAT ARE ON
OUR BEACHES. THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU. RACHEL DEVOE?
>> RACHEL DEVOE, 31135 PARADISE PALMS FERNANDINA BEACH , FLORIDA. I ALSO DON'T SPEAK SO -- MY DAUGHTERS AND I HAVE BEEN REGULAR VISITORS TO FERNANDINA BEACH CLOSE TO 15 YEARS AND WE MOVED HERE ABOUT A DECADE AGO. PART OF THE DRAW WAS A SMALL TOWN FEEL. THE OTHER WAS AN ARTSY, VIBRANT DOWNTOWN AREA. I ALSO GOT REALLY INTO SHARK TOOTH HUNTING. I'M EVEN PRETTY OKAY I DID GET MY OLDEST WILL TELL YOU THAT THE ABILITY TO FIND THEM IS NOT GENETIC. MY YOUNGEST HOWEVER IS PRETTY GOOD. WE HAVEN'T ALWAYS GOTTEN ALONG, BUT ONE DAY I TOOK A CHANCE AND DECIDED TO INVITE HER. AND SHE CAME. SHE FOUND A COUPLE AND GOT PRETTY GOOD AT IT. NOW SHE COMES REGULARLY. IT IS AN ACTIVITY WE SHARE TO THIS DAY. SHE IS 17 NOW. I'VE SEEN CONFLICTING INFORMATION REGARDING THE SCREEN SIZE DEALS. SOME SAY SMALLER THAN A GRAIN OF SAND. SOMEBODY -- SOME SAY 2 X 2, NOW THREE QUARTERS OF AN INCH. MY BIGGEST IS
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ACTUALLY ONLY HALF OF THE TOOTH -- ANYWAY, I WILL WORK ON THIS WHILE I'M TALKING. BUT I WOULD BE ABSOLUTELY HEARTBROKEN OF THE ACTIVITY THAT BROUGHT US SO MUCH CLOSER DISAPPEARED.FOSSILIZED DOLPHIN VERTEBRAE. I HAVEN'T FOUND A WHOLE ONE BUT I HAVE TWO HAVE HERE. YOU CAN KIND OF SEE. WHAT WILL THIS MEAN FOR TOURISM? I SPEAK TO SO MANY PEOPLE WHO COME HERE SPECIFICALLY FOR FOSSIL HUNTING. WHAT ARE THE LONG-TERM REMICADE COMMISSION FOR BEACHES. ARE SHELLS AND OTHER MATERIAL NOT BENEFICIAL FOR PREVENTING FURTHER EROSION, I USED TEETH TO MAKE JEWELRY AS WELL AND I'VE GOTTEN REALLY GOOD AT THAT. AND STARTING A BUSINESS THIS YEAR BECAUSE IT HAS GOTTEN PRETTY POPULAR. ONE OF THE THINGS PEOPLE SEEM TO LIKE IS THE FACT THAT I FIND THEM. THE PROCESS IS ENTIRELY MINE FROM START TO FINISH. THAT IS SOMETHING NOT MANY CAN SAY.
AND WE ARE ALL HERE TONIGHT TO SHARE THESE CONCERNS AND I AM SURE YOU WILL HEAR A TON OF THE SAME TALKING POINTS AS WE GO ON. AND THAT IS THE WHOLE POINT. WE ARE RESIDENTS, VISITORS, AND LOVERS OF NATURE AND THE EXTRACTOR IS NOT SOMETHING WE WELCOME YOUR SOMETHING WE FEEL IS NEEDED.
>> NEXT UP, MS. CHERYL WILSON >> HELLO. CHERYL WILSON, 508 ASH STREET. I JUST RECEIVED A LICENSE TO OPEN UP A FOSSIL INFORMATION CENTER ON ASH. I COULD SPEAK TO THE FACT THAT THE BUSINESS COULD BE IMPACTED BY THE LOSS OF SHELLS. IT COULD PERSONALLY IMPACT ME. BUT ALSO I CAN SPEAK TO THE FACT THAT OUR TOWN WOULD BE IMPACTED BY THE LOSS OF HAVING FOSSILS. THE REASON I SAY THAT IS BEFORE WE CONVERTED THE PROPERTY TO BE A FOSSIL INFO CENTER WAS A B&B AND HALF OF OUR CLIENTS AT THE B&B CAME SPECIFICALLY LOOKING FOR TEETH AND SHELLS. THAT IS ACTUALLY WHY I GOT STARTED DOING THIS BECAUSE I REALIZE THERE WASN'T MUCH INFORMATION OUT THERE ABOUT FERNANDINA BEACH FOSSILS SO I STARTED LOOKING FOR INFORMATION AND ANSWERING MY GUEST QUESTIONS ABOUT WHAT IS THIS THING, HOW OLD IS IT, HOW DO YOU FIND IT. THERE WAS A LOT OF THAT KIND OF INTEREST THAT I FILLED IN AND I DEVELOPED INFORMATION ABOUT IDENTIFYING FOSSILS. LONG STORY SHORT, I REALIZED I WASN'T MUCH INFORMATION OUT THERE ABOUT ANYTHING OTHER THAN SHARK TEETH . A LOT OF PEOPLE KNOW WE HAVE SHARK TEETH. IT IS COMMON KNOWLEDGE. BUT THERE ARE A LOT OF OTHER THINGS WE HAVE PEOPLE DON'T KNOW ABOUT. LIKE THIS IS A WHALE VERTEBRAE. FOUND THIS ON THE BEACH LIKE YOU HAD DOLPHIN VERTEBRAE. MY MAGLITE ON I FOUND. THE ONE I REALLY GOT HOOKED ON, THESE PECTIN SHELLS. PEOPLE DON'T KNOW ABOUT THESE EITHER. AND THEY ARE REALLY POPULAR. SO I STARTED TALKING TO SCIENTISTS AND SAYING WHAT ARE THE IS AND THEY WERE SAYING, WOW, YOU FOUND THOSE IN FERNANDINA. THERE IS NO RECORD OF FOSSILS FOUND IN FERNANDINA . I WENT TO THE UNIVERSITY OF FLORIDA, TO THE MUSEUM OF NATURAL HISTORY AND THEY HAD ONLY RECORD OF SIX FOSSILS FOUND HERE AND THEY WERE ALL TEETH. SO I TOOK A WHOLE SUITCASE OF FOSSILS AND SAID, LOOK, THIS IS WHAT WE'VE GOT AND THEY WERE REALLY EXCITED BECAUSE THEY ARE DOING RESEARCH NOW INTO THESE FOSSILS AND TRYING TO UNDERSTAND HOW THESE FOSSILS WENT EXTINCT AND APPLY THAT TO THIS CURRENT GENERATION OF ANIMALS NOW. LIKE HOW CAN WE STOP IT FROM HAPPENING NOW. SO IT IS REALLY EXCITING RESEARCH THAT WE ARE PART OF, THAT WE ARE CONTRIBUTING TO. ONE OF THE THINGS WE ARE DOING AT THE FOSSIL CENTER IS GETTING PICTURES OF THINGS PEOPLE FIND AND RECORDING IT AND GETTING THOSE TO UNIVERSITY OF FLORIDA TO HAVE THAT SCIENTIFIC KNOWLEDGE. I TOOK DOWN A WHOLE SUITCASE. I DONATED MAYBE 50 OR SO FOSSILS. NOW WE WILL START HAVING THAT RECORD. TO SPEAK TO
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THE WHOLE QUESTION ABOUT -- I BROUGHT A TRAY. THIS IS TWO INCH BY TWO INCH. YOU SEE A BUNCH OF LITTLE TEETH FIT IN THERE. MOST OF THE FOSSILS I HAVE IN THE COLLECTION FIT IN THE SIZE TRAY WHICH IS THREE INCH BY THREE INCH. THEY ARE REALLY GORGEOUS, LOVELY THINGS. THEY DON'T EVEN FIT IN THE THREE INCH TRAY. ALL OF THESE LARGER ITEMS ARE FOUR INCHES. I REALLY FEEL LIKE WE NEED TO ASSESS THE SIZE OF THOSE SCREENS AND WORK OUT HOW WE CAN MAKE SURE WE ARE NOT DAMAGING THE SCIENTIFIC RECORD. ONE FINAL POINT IS WHEN I SHOW THIS BATCH OF THESE ARE PECTIN SHELLS FOUND ON THE BEACH TINY LIKE THIS ALL UP TO THESE BIG ONES. BUT THIS WAS HUGELY EXCITING BECAUSE THIS SHOWS THE LIFECYCLE OF THESE ANIMALS. SO THEY CAN SAY, YES, THEY LIVED A LONG AGE AND DIED WHEN THEY WERE BIG. IF WE FILTER THESE OUT WON'T HAVE THIS MANY THAT FITS IN A TWO INCH SCREEN. WE WON'T HAVE THAT SO THE SCIENCE IS SKEWED. WE JUST DON'T KNOW WHAT IS THERE. TO ME THAT IS REALLY IMPORTANT. NOT JUST FROM MY PERSONAL TIME ON THE BEACH OR MIGHT PERSONAL FINANCES, BUT FOR THE SCIENTIFIC RECORD.HAND OUT. >> I JUST WANT TO CLARIFY SOMETHING. THE SCIENCE TEACHER AND FOSSIL HUNTER AND SHARK TOOTH HUNTER IN ME WANTS TO CLARIFY SOMETHING CITY MANAGER JEREMIAH SAID . IT IS ESTIMATED THAT NO TEETH OR FOSSILS WILL BE LOST OFF OF OUR BEACHES. THAT THE SCREENER WILL SCREEN OUT TO WENCH ITEMS, BUT ALL OF THE SCREENED ITEMS WILL THEN COME BACK ON THE BEACH WITH THE EXCEPTION OF WHAT THEY VIEW AS DANGEROUS. HAVING DONE TURTLE NEST PATROL FOR YEARS AT DAWN ON THE BEACH -- ANYBODY WHO IS HUNTING AT DAWN ON THE BEACH -- THERE ARE LOTS OF DANGEROUS THINGS THAT WASH UP ON THE BEACH. BOARDS WITH NAILS AND WHATNOT. IT IS MY UNDERSTANDING THAT NOTHING OF THAT SIZE WILL BE LOST?
>> ABSOLUTELY. THE REASON, IF I COULD REITERATE, MAYBE I WASN'T CLEAR EARLIER. THE REASON WHY WE HAVE A SUBSTANTIAL AMOUNT OF SHELLS AND TEETH AT THE BEACH IS BECAUSE OF OUR DREDGING. WE'VE BEEN DOING THIS FOR 15 PLUS YEARS. THE DREDGING BRINGS IN ADDITIONAL MATERIAL THAT NORMAL TITLE ACTION DOES NOT. THE TWO INCH SQUARE, THE CONSULTANT INFORMED US THAT MORE THAN LARGER ITEMS FIT BY THE TWO INCH SCREEN. THEY SHAKE THINGS THROUGH. MATERIAL FALLS THROUGH THE SCREEN FOR INJECTION ONTO THE BEACH. ANYTHING LARGER THAN THAT IS PULLED TO THE SIDE, INSPECTED TO MAKE SURE THERE ARE NO HAZARDOUS MATERIALS. THEY DO THAT THROUGH MAGNETS.
IF NOT THE MATERIAL GOES BACK INTO THE EJECTION THAT GOES OUT WITH THE FILL ON THE BEACH. FALL THE ORGANIC MATERIAL THERE IS A CONCERN ABOUT, ALL OF THAT MATERIAL WILL GO OUT ONTO THE BEACH AS IT ALWAYS HAS. THE ERROR, IF THERE WAS ONE IN HINDSIGHT, WHEN TALKING ABOUT WHAT THE EXTRACTOR WAS CAPABLE OF DOING, IT COULD FILTER DOWN TO A GRAIN OF SAND. THAT IS WHAT IT IS CAPABLE OF DOING. THAT IS NOT WHAT IT WILL BE USED FOR. IT IS CAPABLE OF DOING THAT. THE SPEC IS WRITTEN BY THE COURT FOR DIFFERENT SIZE DEPENDS IN -- DEPENDENT ON THE OCEAN FLOOR AND THAT IS HOW THEY COME OUT WITH THE SCREEN
>> WE CAN'T HAVE DISCUSSION TO THE BACK OF THE CHAMBERS. ANY SAVANNA RECORD AT THE MICROPHONE.
>> HAVE TO GO BACK AND LOOK AT EACH PROJECT TO LOOK AT WHAT SCREEN SIZE WAS USED. THEY HAVE ALL USED SOME KIND OF FILTRATION. YOU CAN REALLY MESS UP A DREDGE MACHINE IF YOU PULL UP ANYTHING. ANY METAL COULD MESS UP THE SCREEN SO THERE IS STILL FILTRATION IN PLACE. THIS IS CAPABLE OF DOING HIGHLY SOPHISTICATED FILTRATION. BUT THE SPECS ARE 2 X 2. ANYTHING
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THAT CAN GO AROUND THAT IS INSPECTED BY THE CONTRACTOR. IF IT IS ORGANIC DEBRIS GOES RIGHT BACK INTO THE FILL ON THEBEACH. >> THANK YOU. NEXT UP WE HAVE
MR. PAUL LORD . >> EVERY MEETING I GET UP TO THE PODIUM FASTER. I AM EXCITED. PAUL LORI, 11 SEVENTH STREET. I'D WANT TO ADD SOMETHING. I HAVE NO SCIENTIFIC BACKGROUND. I'M HERE TO SPEAK ABOUT TWO THINGS, SHARK TEETH ON THE PROGRAM. FIRST, THE SHARK TEETH. I WILL TRY TO ADD SOMETHING I THINK IS DIFFERENT. IT IS REALLY GOING TO GO BASED ON YOUR LEADERSHIP. I WATCHED A FRIEND OF MINE -- A HOUSE HERE NEXT TO THE HARDWARE STORE -- THEY REDID IT AND MADE IT A FOSSIL STORE. THE BEAUTIFUL PART I WATCHED WHEN THEY DID IT IS THE PIECE WHERE THEY DID THE A.D.A. AND THEY ADDED THE A.D.A. RAMP TO THE FACILITY. I KNOW THAT BUILDING IS AN HISTORIC BUILDING AND THEY DIDN'T HAVE TO DO THAT.
WHAT I WILL ADD IS THE WAY THEY TOOK THAT EXTRA STEP OF LEADERSHIP FOR OTHERS I AM HOPING YOU ALL AS A COMMISSION TAKE THAT EXTRA STEP IN WATCHING THIS AND MAKE SURE IT REALLY IS EXACTLY WHAT WE THINK IT IS. COMMISSIONER TUTEN, I WANTED TO SOLIDIFY IF THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT WILL HAPPEN. IF WE WILL LOSE THINGS. TOOTH HUNTING AS PART OF OUR IDENTITY AND I THINK IN LIFE WE'VE SEEN -- THIS MONTH WE LOST TWO PEOPLE IN OUR COMMUNITY. THERE IS SO MUCH WE DON'T HAVE CONTROL OF, BUT THERE IS SO MUCH AS A COMMUNITY WE DO HAVE CONTROL OF. AND IF WE DO HAVE CONTROL OF THIS LET'S KEEP WHAT THEY MENTIONED IN THE BEGINNING, OUR IDENTITY. BECAUSE THAT IS WHAT MAKES US DIFFERENT AND IT IS A LOT THAT I TAKE PRIDE IN BEING A CITIZEN OF FERNANDINA BEACH . BECAUSE WE ARE REALLY, REALLY DIFFERENT THAN OTHER FLORIDA TOWNS. CONGRATULATIONS TO THE NEW COMMISSION, TO ALL OF YOU, TO THE NEW CITY MANAGER. WITH THAT NOTE, ONE THING I WANTED TO BRING UP IS I DO KNOW BECAUSE I WORKED IN THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT FOR A WHILE WITH CHANGEOVER IN GOVERNMENT THINGS SOMETIMES CAN GET LOST. ONE THING I DON'T WANT TO SEE GET LOST -- AND I WILL COME UP EVERY TUESDAY TO MENTION IT TO MAKE SURE IT DOESN'T GET LOST -- IS THE MAINTENANCE OF THE BOAT RAMP. THERE WAS A PROMISE WITH THE LAST COMMISSION THAT THERE WOULD BE MAINTENANCE DONE TO THE BOAT RAMP. AND IT NEEDS MAINTENANCE. REALLY BAD. THE PEACEFUL COME TO CONCLUSION WITH HIS THE ONE THING I HOPE IT NEVER GETS LOST, AND THIS IS TO THE COMMISSION WITH MAYBE AN ECHO TO THE COMMUNITY, IS OUR SENSE OF LOVE OF EVERYBODY.
THAT IS THE OTHER PIECE I TAKE VERY SIGNIFICANTLY IN THIS TOWN. WE LOVE AND TAKE CARE OF EVERYBODY. THANK YOU.
>> RHIANNA BOUDREAU, -- IN FERNANDINA. GOOD EVENING. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. I AM AN AMATEUR PALEONTOLOGIST AND FOSSIL HUNTER. A LOT OF YOU KNOW THAT YOUR LOVE AND FOSSIL HUNTING SINCE I WAS A KID HERE IN FERNANDINA. IT IS MY FAVORITE PLACE TO HUNT. WHAT IS COOL ABOUT FERNANDINA IS WITH THE TYPICAL DREDGING WE HAVE WE GET A LAG FOSSIL THEY ARE.
ACTUALLY TWO LAYERS MIXED TOGETHER WHICH MEANS WE FIND SEA AND LAND ANIMAL FOSSILS HONOR BEACHES. WELL-KNOWN SHARK TOOTH IN THE LARGER MEGALODON, BUT ALSO LESSER-KNOWN LIKE DOLPHIN AND WHALE VERTEBRAE WE'VE SEEN. DEER ANTLERS, TEETH FROM VARIOUS ANIMALS -- I'VE EVEN SEEN A DIRE WOLF TOOTH FOUND ON OUR BEACHES. ALL BASICALLY BECAUSE OF THE DREDGING. OUR CURRENT BEACHES PROVIDE LARGER TEETH AND
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FOSSILS WHICH ARE HIGHLY SOUGHT AFTER. HIGHLY. THE THRILL OF FINDING A LARGER MEGALODON TOOTH IS PRICELESS. NOT ONLY DO A LOT OF NASSAU COUNTY RESIDENTS HUNT, BUT PEOPLE TRAVEL FOR TRADE TRIPS AND VACATIONS TO FIND IT TO BECAUSE -- THOSE PLACES NOW DON'T HAVE FOSSILS. I WOULD BEG YOU PLEASE DO YOUR RESEARCH. PEOPLE OBVIOUSLY COMPLAINING AND COMING HERE TO HUNT BECAUSE THEY ARE NOW NO MORE FOSSILS THERE. THE MACHINES THEY ARE NOT LOOKING AT IT. LARGER TEETH ARE PROBABLY GOING IN THEIR POCKETS AS ONE EMPLOYEE SET ON MY FACEBOOK POST. WE WORK HARD AND IS A DANGEROUS JOB, COURSE WE WILL KEEP THEM. I HAVE SOME NUMBERS FOR YOU. 5525, THAT IS THE NUMBER OF PUBLIC BEACHES IN THE UNITED STATES. SIX IS THE>>> TEN BEST PLACES TO FIND SHARK TEETH IN THE UNITED STATES. IT'S AN OASIS WHERE THE SPOILS OF THE DREDGE LAY WAIT TO BE DISCOVERED. I'VE JUST MENTIONED THE BEACHES IT'S BEEN RECENTLY USED AT. FOR FACEBOOK FOR THOSE BEACHES THERE'S NO MORE FOSSILS THERE. I DON'T WANT US TO BECOME THAT. PLEASE, LIKE GET WITH THE CORP. OF ENGINEERS AT LEAST USE A FOUR BY FOUR SCREEN AT THE MINIMUM. BECAUSE I DON'T WANT US TO LOSE WHAT WE HAVE. WE'RE GOING TO LOSE A LOT OF TOURISM FROM IT. A LOT OF MONEY THAT COMES FROM THAT TOURISM. I JUST WANT TO IMPLORE YOU GUYS TO IN T THEY'VE BEEN USED.
>>> NEXT UP WE HAVE MRS. JESSICA HUNT.
>>> LIKE MANY OF YOU I'M NOT COMFORTABLE SPEAKING IN FRONT OF A GROUP. I'M NOT FROM FERNANDINA, I'M NOT EVEN ORIGINALLY FROM FLORIDA I LIVE IN ONTARIO INTERLOCHEN FLORIDA WHERE THERE ARE NO FOSSILS. I HAVE GRANDSONS WHO BEGGED TO COME TO OUR HOUSE TO GO FOSSIL HUNTING. SHARK TOOTH HUNTING.
WE DRIVE TO FERNANDINA ISLAND. I COME HERE INSTEAD OF THE HOUR DRIVE THAT WOULD TAKE TO GET TO AUGUSTINA BEACHES BECAUSE THERE ARE NO FOSSILS TO BE FOUND THERE. I HAVE NEVER FOUND A TOOTH IN MECKLERS OR ANASTASIA OR ANY OF THE OTHER SAN AGUSTIN BEACHES. THEY JUST AREN'T THERE ANYMORE. MY QUESTION, WHY DOES THE EXTRACTOR HAVE TO BE USED HERE THIS YEAR? IT'S BEEN USED FOR THE FIRST TIME IN THESE OTHER BEACHES. WHY NOT, STICK WITH THE ORIGINAL OR WHAT WAS LAST USED IN THE VERY VALUABLE AND NECESSARY SERVICES TO DREDGE AND REFRESH THE BEACHES, USE WHAT'S BEEN USED PREVIOUSLY AND ALLOW THE TIME TO USE THOSE ENVIRONMENTAL AND ECOLOGICAL AND MONEY, FINANCIAL. FINANCIAL IMPACT STUDIES WHERE THAT MACHINE HAS BEEN USED. THAT WAY YOU'RE NOT LOSING ANYTHING BECAUSE ONCE IT'S BEEN LOST, AS SOMEBODY ELSE MENTIONED YOU CAN'T GET
IT BACK. THAT'S IT. >> THANK YOU.
>> NEXT UP WE HAVE CONNIE NEWELL.
>> MY NAME IS CONNIE NEWELL I LIVE AT 75207. BEFORE THESE
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FACEBOOK GROUPS THAT I'VE GIVEN YOU A LIST OF. TALKED ABOUT FERNANDINA BEACH FOR THE HUNT. WHETHER IT'S SHARKS TEETH, SHELLS, FOSSILS, I'VE LIVED HERE SINCE 1972. I'M 65 YEARS OLD. MY FAMILY AND I HAVE, WALKED THESE BEACHES AND LOOKED FOR TREASURES FROM THE OCEAN FOR 52 YEARS. AND WE LOVE IT. I MEAN IT'S JUST SOMETHING WE ALWAYS DID. WE TALKED TO VISITORS ON THE BEACH. AND OFTEN HELPED THEM IN THEIR SEARCH FOR SHARKS TEETH AND GIVE THEM ADVICE. AND SO DOES EVERYBODY ELSE THAT'S OUT THERE LOOKING, THEY HELP OTHER PEOPLE. IT'S JUST, YOU KNOW, IT'S LIKE A CONGREGATION OUT THERE. THESE TOURISTS ARE FROM ALL OVER THE UNITED STATES AND THE WORLD. I'VE MET PEOPLE FROM ENGLAND. IF YOU SIFT OUT THESE NATURAL TROPHY, TREASURES AND SOUVENIRS, YOU'LL RUIN TOURISM AND SMALL BUSINESSES IN FERNANDINA. SO WHAT I GAVE YOU, THIS WAS JUST 17 FACEBOOK PAGES THAT I LOOKED UP, THAT INCLUDES FERNANDINA BEACH. THEY TALK ABOUT FERNANDINA BEACH.THERE'S 286,000 PEOPLE JUST IN THE 17 GROUPS. IF EACH ONE OF THEM COMES HERE AND SPEND $300 IN A TRIP FOR EACH PERSON. YOU TALK ABOUT LOSING A POTENTIAL LOSS OF $169 MILLION TO $338 MILLION. FOR THIS COMMUNITY. BECAUSE OF TOURISM. BECAUSE OF THIS BEACH. PLEASE, PLEASE DON'T THROW OUT THE BEACHES.
>> NEXT WE HAVE MRS. BRENDA JONES.
>> GOOD EVENING I'M BRENDA JONES, I LIVE ON EDWARDS ROAD.
AS MY SISTER SAID, WE'VE LIVED HERE FOR 52 YEARS. GOING TO THE BEACH WAS ALWAYS THE TREASURE AT THE END OF THE WEEK THAT WE GOT TO DO AS CHILDREN AS WELL AS ADULTS NOW. WE CALL IT THERAPY BECAUSE IT IS. IT CLEARS YOUR MIND COMING TO THE BEACH. LISTENING TO THE WIND, FINDING THE TREASURES. AND THERE'S NOT A SOUL IN THIS ROOM THAT BELIEVES ANYTHING THAT HE'S SAYING ABOUT THE DREDGE. OKAY, THE FILTER SYSTEM, OR ELSE IT WOULDN'T BE HERE. SO TREASURES THAT HAVE BEEN FOUND, THERE ARE SEVERAL OF THE HUNTERS HERE THAT HAVE BEEN CONTACTED BY BOY SCOUT GROUPS. CUB SCOUT GROUPS, CHILDREN'S CHURCH GROUPS. MUSEUMS, AND OUR OWN LOCAL SCHOOLS. AND THEY'VE BEEN ASKED, HEY, YOU KNOW, DO YOU HAVE ANY EXTRA LITTLE INFORMATION OR LITTLE THINGS, THEY LITERALLY MAIL STUFF LOCAL AS WELL AS ABROAD. WE'VE HAD PEOPLE FROM SOUTH CAROLINA CONTACT SOME OF OUR HUNTERS HERE. JUST TO ASK FOR YOU KNOW I HAVE A CUB SCOUT GROUP. WE WOULD LIKE TO STUDY SOME SEASHELL, SOME SHARK TEETH AND STUFF. WE WON'T BE ABLE TO DO THAT ANYMORE. THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE TO PURCHASE THIS STUFF. AND THIS IS A FREE COMMODITY FOR US TO BE ABLE TO SHARE WITH EVERYBODY THAT DOESN'T COST A THING EXCEPT FOR TIME. AND IT WOULD BE A SHAME FOR ALL OF THIS TO BE THROWN AWAY OR SOMEBODY ELSE PROFITS FROM IT.
YOU CANNOT TELL US THAT SOMEBODY IS NOT GOING TO POCKET IT. YOU HEARD WHAT WAS SAID ABOUT ONE OF THE PEOPLE RUNNING THE DREDGE. COME ON. SO IF THIS HAPPENS. AND PEOPLE HAVE TO GO FURTHER SOUTH, LET'S JUST SAY IT GOES AS FAR AS VENICE BEACH.
THEY PASS US UP COMPLETELY. THAT'S A WHOLE LOT OF MONEY.
WHOLE LOT OF VISITORS AND WE HAVE SUCH A FRIENDLY ATMOSPHERE. YOU KNOW EVERYBODY TELLS YOU. LET'S JUST COME TO THE ISLAND BECAUSE IT'S SO RELAXING. WE WON'T HAVE THAT ANYMORE. YOU WON'T HAVE PEOPLE COMING. YOU WON'T HAVE
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CHILDREN LEARNING FROM OTHER CITIES, OTHER COUNTRIES AND SO ON. WE LIKE TO SHARE. EVERYBODY HERE SHARES THEIR SHARKS TEETH.THEIR SEASHELLS. THEIR STONES, THEIR FOSSILS. THERE'S AN INDIAN ARTIFACTS, ARROW HEADS. INDIAN TOOLS. ALL THOSE SORTS OF THINGS ARE FOUND ON OUR BEACH. AND IF THEY'RE CAUGHT UP IN THE DREDGE, THEY'RE LOST. JUST PLAIN AND SIMPLE, THEY'RE LOST.
>> THANK YOU. >> NEXT UP I HAVE MRS. ANDREA
DANN. >> GOOD EVENING MAYOR, COMMISSIONERS MY NAME IS ANDREA DANN I LIVE AT 2102 BUNTING DRIVE THAT'S OVER IN JACKSONVILLE. I DO NOT LIVE ON THE ISLAND. I'M HERE ENOUGH THAT I RECOGNIZE PEOPLE GOING DOWN THE STREET. SO MY QUESTION IS, WE'RE HERE TONIGHT TALKING ABOUT SHARK TEETH INDUSTRY. I'M GOING THE CALL IT AN INDUSTRY HERE LOCALLY. WOULD WE BE HAVING THIS DISCUSSION IF WE'RE TALKING ABOUT DECREASING YOUR INCOME FROM SHRIMPING. YES WE WOULD. IF YOU HAD PEOPLE OUT HERE AND YOU SAY, OKAY WE'RE GOING TO GO TO A LARGER NET THAT YOU HAVE TO USE FOR SHRIMP, WAIT A MINUTE. THAT'S A RETURN ON INVESTMENT RIGHT.
IF YOU'RE CATCHING LESS SHRIMP YOU'RE GETTING LESS OF AN INVESTMENT AND LESS OF A RETURN FOR YOUR HARD EARNED MONEY OR HARD EARNED TO GET THE SHRIMP. IT'S THE SAME WITH THE SHARKS TOOTH AND FOSSILS. I FOUND MY FIRST ONE AT THE AGE OF 45 AND IT WAS THE HAPPIEST DAY OF MY LIFE. SINCE THEN, EVERY ONE OF MY RELATIVES THAT HAVE COME HERE TO JACKSONVILLE TO SEE ME? WHERE ARE WE GOING WE'RE GOING TO FERNANDINA. FROM MAIN BEACH, TO FORT CLENCH AND BACK AGAIN. BECAUSE THAT WAS MY RETURN OF INVESTMENT WITH TIME WITH MY FAMILY. THE RETURN OF INVESTMENT WITH WHEN IT COMES TO THE SHARK TEETH AROUND HERE AND THE INDUSTRY OF TOURISM, YOU ONLY MADE 89 MILLION LAST YEAR IN IMPORTS AND EXPORTS. YOU MADE 1.2 BILLION IN TOURISM. IT'S ALL ABOUT THE RETURN OF INVESTMENT AND WHAT YOU'RE GOING TO LOSE. AND IF THIS WAS THE SHRIMPING INDUSTRY, LIKE I SAID THIS WAS THE SHRIMPING INDUSTRY WE WOULD BE TALKING ABOUT THERE WOULD BE A LOT MORE PEOPLE HERE. BUT IT'S THE SAME RETURN OF INVESTMENT. YOU INVEST IN YOUR PEOPLE, YOU WILL MAKE YOUR MONEY. THANK YOU YOU ALL HAVE A
NICE EVENING. >> NEXT UP WE HAVE MR. RYAN
CONGRATULATIONS COMMISSIONERS FOR BEING HERE. AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR PUBLIC SERVICE. I'M HERE RIGHT NOW TO FIRST I WOULD SAY I'M A PROUD CITIZEN OF THE NAPE NATION. PART OF BEING NAPE IS TO RECOGNIZE OUR PEOPLE AS THE TRADITIONAL STEWARDS OF OUR LAND. I BELIEVE THE REASON WE GET TO ENJOY TODAY IS BECAUSE THIS GENERATION WAS INCLUDED IN THE STEWARDSHIP OF THIS LAND SINCE WAY BEFORE ANY OF US GOT HERE. SO I WOULD LIKE TO ENCOURAGE, THAT MINDFULNESS TODAY. THAT WE THINK ABOUT THE NEXT SEVEN GENERATIONS AND THE PEOPLE WHO WILL BE ENJOYING THIS ISLAND WAY AFTER ALL OF US ARE GONE. MANY PEOPLE HAVE DISCUSSED AND BROUGHT UP GREAT POINTS THAT WHEN WE EXCAVATE THE ORGANIC MATTER FROM OUR BEACHES THAT IS GONE. THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE'RE NOT GOING TO GET BACK. SO I THINK THAT WARRANTS THE PRUDENCE TO THINK VERY CAREFULLY ABOUT THE DECISIONS THAT HAVE BEEN MADE. THANK YOU SO MUCH.
>>> NEXT UP WE HAVE MRS. JULIE HERRERA.
>> JULIE HERRERA. LET ME JUST SAY NOBODY IS GOING TO BE CLAPPING FOR ME WHEN I HAVE TO SAY WHAT I HAVE TO SAY. SHARK TOOTH HUNTING IS FUN. SHOW AND TELL IS FUN. BUT I'M GOING TO
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EXPRESS AN OPPOSING POINT OF VIEW. SUGAR SAND USED TO BE WHAT WE HAD ON OUR BEACHES. IT WAS FINER THAN SUGAR. WE DON'T HAVE THAT ANYMORE. WE DO HAVE DREDGING PROJECT AND WE HAVE SOMETHING AKIN TO CHOPPED UP SHELLS. WHICH WHEN YOU WALK ON IT, YOU LAY ON IT IT'S LIKE A DIRT ROAD. THAT'S NOT WHAT FERNANDINA USED TO BE ABOUT. SO, WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE PERSONALLY, IS A SIFTER THAT SIFTS DOWN TO A GRAIN OF SAND.SO THAT WE CAN GET BACK WHAT WE HAD AT ONE POINT. IN THE 1950S, YOU WOULD WALK ON THE BEACH AND YOU WOULD SEE A SAND DOLLAR EVERY 12 FEET. WE DON'T HAVE ANYTHING LIKE WHAT WE USED TO HAVE. AND EXACTLY WHAT MRS. TUTEN SAID, ANYTHING THAT'S EXTRACTED AND PUT BACK INTO THE OCEAN IS GOING TO WASH BACK UP.
DURING A STORM. WE SHOULD BE THINKING, SEVEN GENERATIONS DOWN THE ROAD. WE SHOULD BE THINKING ABOUT WHAT HAS EVERYBODY IN THIS ROOM SAID? EVERYBODY SAYS YOU CAN'T GO TO ST. AGUSTIN ANYMORE AND FIND SHELLS OR SHARK TEETH. SO IF WE'RE CATERING TO 18,000 PEOPLE WHO WANT TO PICK UP SHARKS TEETH, OR WHATEVER THE OTHER NUMBER WAS 287,000 OR WHATEVER IT WAS, WE'RE THE EXTRACTORS. IT'S NOT THAT THING THAT'S GOING TO BE USED FOR THE DREDGING. WE'RE THE EXTRACTORS. THESE SHARKS TEETH, THESE FOSSILS, THESE SHELLS, THOSE ARE OUR NATURAL RESOURCES. EVERYBODY IS COMING HERE FROM WHEREVER, GAINESVILLE, JACKSONVILLE, CHICAGO, WHEREVER. THEY'RE TAKING OUR NATURAL RESOURCES TO TAKE HOME AND PUT ON THEIR COFFEE TABLE. SO MAYBE THAT'S OKAY WITH EVERYBODY. TO ME, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE OUR BEACH BE IN THE NATURAL STATE THAT IT WAS IN THE 1950S WHEN I WAS A CHILD HERE. THE OTHER THING I CAN SAY IS THAT, I LIKE THE THOUGHT THAT FOSSILS CAN BE SAVED AND EDUCATE OTHERS OF COURSE, WE WANT THAT TO HAPPEN. BUT THE CITY IS NOT IN THE BUSINESS OR SHOULD THEY BE IN THE BUSINESS OF MAKING TOOTHING AN INDUSTRY. WE'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE ANYTHING LEFT. AND I WOULD THINK THAT EVERYBODY IN THIS ROOM SHOULD BE THINKING ABOUT AT LEAST I THINK ABOUT IT, EVERY TIME WE DREDGE, DO YOU KNOW HOW MANY SEA TURTLES ARE SUCKED UP. I MEAN WE NEED TO THINK ABOUT THAT EXTRACTION TOO. BUT, I DON'T KNOW THAT, EVERYBODY HERE IS THINKING ABOUT THEMSELVES. I WOULD LIKE TO BE LIKE BRYAN WHO SAID LET'S THINK SEVEN GENERATIONS
INTO THE FUTURE. THANK YOU. >>> I BELIEVE THIS IS OUR LAST SPEAKER ON THE DREDGING ISSUE. MRS. CHLOE MARTIN.
>> CHLOE MARTIN. I'M ACTUALLY NOT FROM FLORIDA, I'M FROM DELAWARE. I MOVED DOWN TO FLORIDA ABOUT OVER A YEAR AGO.
AND SHARK TOOTH HUNTING HAS BEEN MY FAVORITE THING HERE SINCE I MOVED. LIVE IN JACKSONVILLE, SO I'M ABOUT AN HOUR AWAY, BUT I TRIED OUT ST. AGUSTIN, MECKLERS RIGHT AFTER THEY DID THE DREDGING. NOTHING. I HAVE JOINED QUITE A FEW FACEBOOK GROUPS AND TRIED A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT PLACES AND FERNANDINA IS THE ONLY PLACE I HAVE BEEN ABLE TO FIND PLENTY OF TEETH HERE AT THIS BEACH. MY FRIENDS FROM SOUTH FLORIDA, FROM DELAWARE HAVE COME DOWN TO VISIT TO EXPLORE THESE BEACHES, FIND THE TREASURES, FIND THE SHARK TEETH, THE FOSSILS. THE SHELLS LIKE MANY OF YOU HAVE AND GO OUT TO DINNER AFTER GETTING A AIR B & B, STAY SOME WHERE LOCAL. SPEND MONEY IN THIS COMMUNITY AND LIKE EVERYBODY ELSE HAS SAID IT IS A COMMUNITY OUT THERE. I'VE MET SO MANY PEOPLE WHILE I'VE BEEN HUNTING. IT'S NOT YOU VOTED FOR THIS, YOU VOTED FOR THIS.
IT'S THAT WE ALL HAVE SOMETHING IN COMMON AND WE CAN HAVE THAT COMMON THING TO JOKE ABOUT AND TALK ABOUT. IT WAS
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COMING UP ON MY GRANDMOTHER'S FUNERAL ANNIVERSARY. AND I WENT OUT TO THE BEACH BECAUSE I WAS LOOKING TO DO FREE. AND AS I'M WALKING I FOUND MY FIRST TOOTH RIGHT THERE. IT JUST FELT LIKE MY GRAND MOM WAS THERE AT THIS MOMENT AND THIS IS WHERE I'M SUPPOSED TO BE. I WOULDN'T HAVE HAD THAT EXPERIENCE WITHOUT BEING HERE AT FERNANDINA BEACH AND SEARCHING FOR SHARK TEETH. AND I THINK THAT'S IT. I'M VERY SCARED IF THIS DREDGING DOES GO THROUGH. IT IS THE NEW MACHINERY AS MECKLERS DOES NOT HAVE ANY TEETH ANYMORE. I BARELY CANFIND ANY SHELLS. SO THANK YOU. >>> WE HAVE MR. LOLI BERR ERA.
COME ON UP. >> WALDERMAR BARRERA HOME OF OLYMPIAN POPE VINCENT. SHARK TEETH MINING GOOD, SHARK TEETH MINING NOT GOOD. I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO HOPE THAT EACH ONE OF YOU GUYS HAD A GOOD THANKSGIVING. YOU GUYS WITH YOUR FAMILY AND ENJOYED YOUR DAY. WELCOME NEW CITY MANAGER.
WE HAD TWO KIDS WHO WENT TO TALLAHASSEE AND COMPETED IN THE FASL. FLORIDA AMATEUR SKATE LEAGUE. HE'S THE BEST 7 AND UNDER SKATEBOARDER IN THE STATE OF FLORIDA. WE ALSO HAD A CHLOE HAROLD WHO WENT TO TALLAHASSEE, COMPETED AND TOOK FIRST PLACE AS WELL. SHE IS ALSO RANKED IN THE TOP FIVE IN THE STATE OF FLORIDA. THE OTHER ONES ARE CANDYCE HOUSER FROM FERNANDINA.
THE WALDO FAMILY, TALULA, COCO AND PRESLEY WALDO. KNOX WALDO, PRINCEROSE WALDO AND WANDY WALDO. ALL OF THESE ARE SKATEBOARDERS AND ARE COMPETING AT THE FIRST LEVEL IN THE STATE OF FLORIDA. FOLLOWING IN THE FOOTSTEPS OF OUR OLYMPIAN POPE PINSON. THEY WILL ALSO BE GOING TO TAMPA NEXT WEEKEND, I'M SORRY THIS WEEKEND TO COMPETE SOME MORE REPRESENTING FERNANDI NA BEACH FLORIDA IN TAMPA. I WOULD LIKE TO RECOGNIZE MY BROTHER WHO PASSED AWAY WHEN HE WAS 30 YEARS OLD, HE DIED OF AIDS, HE DID NOT HAVE THE MONEY TO BE ABLE TO SUSTAIN HIMSELF LIKE MAGIC JOHNSON. AND I ALSO RECOGNIZE MY GAY SISTER HERLANDA BARRERO AND MY GAY BROTHER WHO ARE STILL ALIVE.
LAST WEEK WAS A TEACHABLE MOMENT FUR OUR SKATE COMMUNITY WHO WAS UP HERE AND HAD TO LISTEN TO SOME HATRED. I'M SURE THAT IT WAS A GOOD THING FOR US TO SEE THESE LITTLE KIDS BE BEWILDERED BY THE HATE THAT WAS AMONGST US HERE. AND, THE WAY I TAUGHT THEM AND THE WAY WE SHOULD ALL THINK ABOUT IT IS THERE'S PLENTY OF PEOPLE WHO WOULD NOT ALLOW BLACK PEOPLE TO DRINK FROM A WATER FOUNTAIN. ARE YOU THE KIND OF PERSON THAT DOESN'T WANT SOMEONE TO GO INTO A RESTAURANT AND EAT. YOU HAVE TO ASK YOURSELF, WHAT SIDE OF HISTORY YOU WANT TO BE ON.
>>> COMING UP WE HAVE HINA CHRISTNER.
>> WHAT A HARD ACT TO FOLLOW ALL THESE SPEECHES. MINE IS A PRETTY BORING TOPIC COMPARED TO ALL OF THESE. I'M HERE TO ASK FOR SOMETHING REALLY SIMPLE. FOR THIS COMMISSION TO CHANGE
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THE CITY'S POSITION ON THE TRINGALI APPEALS CASE. RIGHT NOW THE CITY IS ALIGNED WITH A DEVELOPER TO OVERTURN SECTION 10305 OF THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE. I'M ASKING YOU TONIGHT TO FIX THAT AND STAND WITH THE CITIZENS. THE CASE ISN'T JUST ABOUT ONE PROPERTY. IT'S ABOUT THE FUTURE OF FERNANDINA BEACH.THIS IS ABOUT SETTING A DANGEROUS PRECEDENT THAT COULD ALLOW OVERDEVELOPMENT CITY WIDE. WHEN THIS WENT TO COURT, JUDGE ROBERSON WIDELY RULED WITH THE RESIDENTS SAYING THERE WAS NO POSSIBLE EXPLANATION FOR THE CITY'S ERRONEOUS EXPLANATION OF THE CODE. THAT SHOULD HAVE BEEN THE END OF IT.
BUT THE DEVELOPER APPEALED THE RULING AND ON FEBRUARY 21, 2024 THE CITY FILED WHAT'S CALLED A JOYNER WITH THE APPEALS COURT TO SIDE WITH THE DEVELOPER. AND NOW HERE WE STAND, THE CITY FIGHTING AGAINST ITS OWN CITIZENS ALIGNED WITH THE DEVELOPER IN AN APPEALS COURT. IF THE CITY ARGUES THIS ISN'T THE CASE. I HAVE THE COURT DOCUMENTS AND THE FACTS AND I'M HAPPY TO MEET WITH THE CITY ATTORNEY AND THE MAYOR TO DISCUSS THIS FURTHER. ALTERNATIVELY WE CAN MAKE THIS AN, ITEM ON THE AGENDA AT A CITY COMMISSION MEETING. I URGE YOU TO ACT NOW, DIRECT THE CITY ATTORNEY TO IMMEDIATELY WITHDRAWAL THE JOYNER AND FILE A NEW ONE SUPPORTING THE LOWER COURTS RULING AND THE RESIDENTS. SHOW THE APPEALS COURT THAT THE CITY RESPECTS ITSELF CITIZEN THAT THE CITY RESPECTS IT LAWS AND THAT JUDGE ROBERSON'S WISDOM STANDS. THE DEVELOPER NOW SAYS THEY WANT TO BUILD A BUILDING UNDER THE LIVE WELL ACT. LET'S BE CLEAR, WHILE THE LIVE WELL ACT ALLOWS THE, THIS IS BEING HASHED OUT IN COURTS AS WE SPEAK. THERE'S NOTHING IN LOCAL THAT OVERSEES THE LAWS OF 103-05. I'M GOING TO BE TALKING A LOT MORE ABOUT THAT IN THE FUTURE BUT RIGHT NOW I'M GOING BACK TO THE APPEAL. IF THIS APPEAL SUCCEEDS, IT'S GOING TO IMPACT THOUSANDS OF PROPERTIES IN THIS CITY. IT'S GOING TO ELIMINATE SAFEGUARDS PUT IN PLACE TO MAKE SURE THE CITY MAINTAINED ITS CHARACTER. SO I'M GOING TO ASK YOU, WHO IS THE CITY? IS THE CITY THE VOTERS WHO ELECTED YOU. IS THE CITY YOU THE COMMISSIONERS WHO REPRESENT THEM. OR IS THE CITY A COUPLE OF UNELECTED BUREAUCRATS MAKING DECISIONS ON THEIR OWN. I'M ASKING YOU TONIGHT TO CORRECT THIS AND ASK THE CITY ATTORNEY TO IMMEDIATELY REFILE A JOINTER TO WITHDRAWAL THE EXISTING ONE AND ALIGN WITH THE CITIZENS. ON ANOTHER NOTE. I WAS CONFUSED ABOUT SOMETHING WITH MY BOARD OF APPEALS APPLICATION. I THOUGHT THERE WAS ONLY ONE POSITION. AND MY FRIEND LYNNE KRIEGER HAD APPLIED AND I REALLY ADMIRE ELAINE KRIEGER SO I WITHDREW MY APPLICATION TODAY AND I LET YOU KNOW THAT. NOW THAT I'VE REALIZED THERE'S MORE THAN ONE POSITION I WOULD LIKE TO REPUT MY HAT IN THE RING IF YOU WILL HAVE ME. SO, PLEASE CANCEL MY CANCEL. ANY WAY, THANK YOU SO MUCH. CONGRATULATIONS TO ALL THE NEW COMMISSIONERS AND NEW MAYOR. THANK YOU.
>>> COMING BACK UP WE HAVE MR. BRYAN HEARST.
>>> 327 NORTH WOOD STREET. I AM HERE TODAY BECAUSE I WAS. ONE OF OUR FORMER MAYORS SAID THEY WITNESSED ONE OF THE MOST HATEFUL THREE MINUTE RANTS UTTERED FROM THIS CHAMBER.
WHICH I FOUND REMARK REMARKABLE. THE COMMUNITY IS TALKING ABOUT WHAT IS DONE. IT IS MY POSITION WITH RESPECT THAT THE COUNCIL DO NOTHING. AND HERE'S WHY. I TOOK THE VIDEO AND I ACTED ALONE. I TOOK A VIDEO OF THAT PUBLIC STATEMENT AND I PRODUCED IT INTO A SONG THAT RAISED $680 IN DONATION FOR FERNANDINA PRIDE IN UNDER 24 HOURS. SO AS AWFUL AS THAT THREE MINUTE ENDED UP BEING A MUCH NEEDED COMEDIC RELIEF. SO MY POSITION IS LET THE PEOPLE SPEAK. I THINK WHEN YOU CONSIDER HOW MUCH MONEY WE RAISED FOR PRIDE, THAT FACT ALONE WARRANTS MORE PRUDENCE ABOUT HOW WE BEHAVE IN THIS CHAMBER. I THINK WE'RE GOING TO SEE MORE DECORUM IN THE
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CHAMBER. WHAT WE HAVE TO DO IN MY OPINION, ANYONE WHO'S BEEN HERE LONG ENOUGH KNOWS THIS TOWN HAS AN EXCEPTIONAL WAY OF SELF- SELF-GOVERNANCE. SO IN OPINION I THINK WHAT WE HAVE TO DO IS GET MORE CREATIVE. AND LET THE PEOPLE TAKE CARE OF ITOURSELVES. THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU MR. HEARNST. NOW I HAVE TWO THAT WILL ARE FOR AN AGENDA ITEM BUT ONE I ALSO HAVE FOR 7.10 AND PUBLIC COMMENTS. DID YOU WANT TO PUT THE TWO
TOGETHER. >> I'M GOOD. BUT I WOULD LIKE
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TO SPEAK ON THEM SEPARATE. >> THAT'S ALL THE PUBLIC COMMENT. SEEING NONE. ALL RIGHT FOLKS I HAVE 6.1 ON MY CONSENT AGENDA FOR CONSTRUCTION UNDOWNMENT LLC. DO WE HAVE ANY MEMBERS THAT WANT TO PULL THIS CONCESSION. DO I HEAR A MOTION.
>> AND A SECOND. ANY COMMISSIONER DISCUSSION.
>> COMMISSIONER AYSCUE. >> YES.
>> COMMISSIONER MINSHEW. >> YES.
>> COMMISSIONER TUTEN. >> YES.
>> THE MEASURE PASSES. >> I WILL TAKE YOUR REQUEST FOR A FIVE MINUTE RECESS AND WILL BE BACK AT 7:36.
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>>> ALL RIGHT FOLKS WE'LL RECONVENE OUR MEETING FOR THE
[7.2 CYBERSECURITY POLICY ADOPTION - RESOLUTION 2024-230 ADOPTING A CYBERSECURITY POLICY FOR THE CITY OF FERNANDINA BEACH IN ACCORDANCE WITH CHAPTER 282 OF THE FLORIDA STATUTES; PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY; AND PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE. Synopsis: Approves a City Cybersecurity Policy as required by Florida Statutes.]
EVENING. SO MOVING ALONG 17.2 CYBER SECURITY ADOPTION.>> THIS IS A POLICY REQUIRED BY FLORIDA LAW. IN 2022 THE LOCAL CYBER SECURITY ACT WAS ADOPTED BY THE FLORIDA LEGISLATURE WHICH REQUIRES LOCAL GOVERNMENTS IN FLORIDA OF OUR SIZE LESS THAN FEWER THAN 25,000 RESIDENTS TO ADOPT CYBER SECURITY POLICY STANDARDS FOR HOW WE MANAGE DATA AND REPORT RANSOM WARE ATTACKS BY JANUARY 1, 2025. THIS IS THE RESOLUTION ADOPTING THOSE POLICY STANDARDS THAT COMPLY WITH THE NEW STATUTE. THEY WILL GET FILED WITH THE IT'S CALLED THE FLORIDA DIGITAL SERVICE. A NEW SERVICE FORMED BY THE STATE OF FLORIDA TO ACCEPT THAT EACH OF THE LOCAL GOVERNMENTS CHECK THEY'VE DONE THEIR STANDARDS. IN ADDITION TO THE STANDARDS IS A TRAINING PROGRAM REQUIRED FOR ALL CITY EMPLOYEES FULL TIME OR PART TIME, THAT BASICALLY HAVE A CITY E-MAIL ADDRESS. THEY HAVE ACCESS TO THE NETWORK, THEY HAVE TO BE TRAINED, THERE'S A BASIC TRAINING AND ADVANCED TRAINING BASED UPON YOUR LEVEL OF SENSITIVE INFORMATION IN THE CITY WE HAVE MOSTLY TRAINING EVERYBODY IN ADVANCE TRAINING. REALLY ONLY THOSE EMPLOYEES THAT HAVE AN E-MAIL ADDRESS THAT MAY WORK ON THEIR PAYROLL AND THINGS LIKE THAT. THEY MAY JUST HAVE BASIC TRAINING BECAUSE OTHERWISE THEY'RE DRIVING CITY EQUIPMENT OR WHATEVER. ALL OF THOSE TRAININGS MIGHT BE COMPETED BY THE END OF THE YEAR, BY THE END OF JANUARY. THE NEW STATUTE DOES NOT SAY WHEN WE HAVE TO HAVE ALL OF THE EMPLOYEES TRAINED. ALL EMPLOYEES HAVE TO BE TRAINED WITHIN 30 DAYS FROM THE START DATE WITH THE CITY. SO WE'RE WORKING ON THAT.
WE'VE BEEN COMPLYING AND PLEASE APPROVE BECAUSE WE HAVE TO DO THIS. WE WORKED ON THIS AS A TEAM, IT AND LEGAL. ETC.
>> DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS. SEEING NONE. DO WE HAVE A
>> SECOND. >> AND A SECOND ON THE FLOOR.
ANY COMMISSIONER DISCUSSION? SEEING NONE. PLEASE CALL THE
ROLL. >> COMMISSIONER POYNTER.
[7.3 PIGGYBACK APPROVAL - ATLANTIC PIPE SERVICES - RESOLUTION 2024-231 APPROVING A PROPOSAL FROM ATLANTIC PIPE SERVICES FOR STORMWATER PIPE CLEANING AND LINING SERVICES AT THE FERNANDINA BEACH MUNICIPAL AIRPORT IN AN AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED $134,785.60 BY WAY OF A PIGGYBACK PURCHASE TO A CITY OF SOUTH DAYTONA SERVICES CONTRACT; AUTHORIZING EXECUTION; AND PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE. Synopsis: Approves the proposal from Atlantic Pipe Services as a piggyback purchase to a City of South Daytona Services Agreement, in an amount not to exceed $134,785.60. ]
>> SKWRE. >> COMMISSIONER MINSHEW.
>> YES. >> COMMISSIONER TUTEN.
>> YES. >> COMMISSIONER AYSCUE.
>> YES. >> COMMISSIONER ANTUN.
>> YES. >> THAT MEASURE PASSES 7-0.
>> THE NEXT ITEM IS A PIGGY BACK APPROVAL ATLANTIC PIPE
SERVICES. >> THE CITY COMMISSION ACCEPTED
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A FLORIDA GRANT FOR THIS SPECIFIC PURPOSE. IT'S 100% GRANTS. NO MATCH IS REQUIRED. THE PROPOSALS IS AS A PIGGY BACK PROCESS THAT'S RECENT. THEY'VE EXTENDED THOSE SAME UNIT PRICING COMPONENT FOR THIS PROJECT. IT WILL ALIGN 400-FOOT SECTION OF STORM WATER PIPE. WITHIN WHICH WE KNOW WE HAVE LEAKY JOINTS. THIS IS A SEPARATE PROJECT THAT HAS ALIGNED A LARGE STORM WATER PIPE ALONG THE NORTHERN DEVELOPMENT AREA OF THE AIRPORT. THIS IS THE LAST SPACEOF THAT MULTIYEAR PROCESS. >> THANK YOU MR. COYLE. DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR MR. COYLE. DO I HEAR A MOTION.
>> I MOVE TO ADOPT RESOLUTION 2024-231.
>> MOTION ON THE FLOOR. TO I HEAR A SECOND.
>> SECOND. >> COMMISSIONER TUTEN SECOND.
DO I HAVE ANY COMMISSIONER DISCUSSION. PLEASE CALL THE
ROLL. >> COMMISSIONER MI IN, SHEW.
>> YES. >> COMMISSIONER TUTEN.
[7.4 BUDGET AMENDMENT - AIRPORT - RESOLUTION 2024-232 APPROVING AN AIRPORT BUDGET AMENDMENT FOR THE FISCAL YEAR 2024/2025; AND PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE. Synopsis: Approves an amendment to the Fiscal Year 2024/2025 Airport Budget by amending the funds carried forward cash balance and carry forward budgeted appropriations for the Fire Station project at the Airport for the current fiscal year. ]
>> YES. >> COMMISSIONER POYNTER.
>> MAYOR ANTUN. >> THAT PASSES 7-0. THE NEXT RESOLUTION, BUDGET AMENDMENT AIRPORT.
>> AND THIS IS CARRYING OVER THE PROJECT RELATED TO THE FIRE STATION CONSTRUCTION. THIS IS SCHEDULED TO BE COMPLETED IN THE NEXT FIVE YEARS. THE FUNDS WERE NOT MOVED INTO THE FISCAL YEAR. WILL WRAP UP THIS PROJECT. INCREASING THE OVER ALL BUDGET THAT WERE CARRIED IN LAST YEAR'S BUDGET INTO THIS YEAR. IT'S A FORMALITY. WE NEED COMMISSION APPROVAL. AND
STAFF APPROVAL. >> DO I HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? DO
>> SECOND. >> AND SECOND. ANY COMMISSIONER DISCUSSION? PLEASE CALL THE ROLL.
>> COMMISSIONER PONYTER. >> YES.
[7.5 AWARD OF RFP 24-07 - DIGITECH COMPUTER LLC - RESOLUTION 2024-233 AWARDING REQUEST FOR PROPOSAL (RFP) 24-07 FOR THIRD PARTY AMBULANCE/EMS BILLING SERVICES TO DIGITECH COMPUTER LLC; AUTHORIZING EXECUTION; AND PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE. Synopsis: Awards RFP 24-07 to Digitech Computer LLC as the City's EMS third-party billing service. ]
>> COMMISSIONER MINSHEW. >> YES.
>> COMMISSIONER TUTEN. >> YES.
>> THAT MEASURE PASSES 7-0. THE NEXT MEASURE, AWARD OF
RFP24-07DIGITECH COMPUTER LLC. >> STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL.
>> IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THIS IS GOING TO STREAMLINE OUR ABILITY TO COLLECT FEES WHEN WE DEPLOY AMBULANCE SERVICES IS
THAT CORRECT? >> YES THAT'S CORRECT.
>> DO I HAVE ANY OTHER COMMISSIONER QUESTIONS? DO I
HEAR A MOTION? >> I MOVE TO APPROVE RESOLUTION
24-07. >> ANY COMMISSIONER DISCUSSION?
>> PLEASE CALL THE ROLL. >> COMMISSIONER MINSHEW.
>> YES. >> COMMISSIONER POYNTER.
[7.6 AMENDING RESOLUTION 2024-173 - OUTSIDE COUNSEL ENGAGEMENT APPROVAL - RESOLUTION 2024-234 AMENDING RESOLUTION 2024-173 AUTHORIZING THE CITY ATTORNEY TO ENGAGE IN QUALIFIED OUTSIDE LEGAL COUNSEL FOR CONFLICTS, COMPLEX LEGAL MATTERS, BOARD REPRESENTATION, AND SPECIAL MAGISTRATE SERVICES IN BY ADDING TWO FIRMS; AUTHORIZING EXECUTION; AND PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE. Synopsis: Approves the addition of GrayRobinson, PA, and Baker Donelson Bearman, Caldwell & Berkowitz, PC to the list of qualified outside counsel for the City Attorney to consult with in Fiscal Year 2024/2025 in an amount not to exceed $165,000.]
>> YES. >> COMMISSIONER TUTE IN,.
>> THAT PASSES 5-0 AS WELL. THE NEXT MEASURE.
>> THE OUTSIDE COUNCIL IS SET UP IN THE BUDGET WITHIN THE LEGAL DEPARTMENT EVERY YEAR AND IT'S APPROVED A SET OF AMOUNT OF MONEY THIS YEAR. THAT INCLUDES OUTSIDE LABOR COUNSEL SERVICES FOR ALL OF OUR PERSONNEL AND UNION MATTERS AND OTHER SPECIAL PROJECTS AND BOARD COVERAGE. IF I HAVE A CONFLICT OF INTEREST AND I'M RECOMMENDING STAFF FOR EXAMPLE.
SO THIS ADDS WE HAVE A SPECIAL PROJECT COMING UP WHERE, THE CITY WOULD LIKE TO GET A WAIVER FROM FEMA FOR OBTAINING AND MAINTAINING WAVE ACTION INSURANCE TO COVER THE DOCKS.
THE PREMIUM THIS YEAR I BELIEVE WAS ALMOST $470,000. THAT'S ALMOST 13% OF THE MARINA'S ENTIRE BUDGET. SO THE CITY APPLIED TO THE STATE OF FLORIDA INSURANCE COMMISSIONER AND ASKED THEM FOR WHAT WE CALL A WAIVER OF THE OBTAIN AND MAINTAIN OBLIGATION THAT WE HAVE TO MAINTAIN INSURANCE NOW SINCE FEMA REIMBURSED THE BUILDING OF THE MARINA AFTER HURRICANE MATTHEW TO THE TUNE OF $7 MILLION. SO THAT'S WHEN THE CITY BEGAN CARRYING INSURANCE BECAUSE FEMA REQUIRED IT. THERE'S AN OPTION TO GET THIS WAIVER. WE'VE ESTABLISHED THROUGH MR. BUDDY JACOBS OFFICE AND THE FLORIDA INSURANCE COMMISSIONER GETTING A LETTER SAYING, IT SEEMS THAT THIS IS NOT A REASONABLE FOR THE CITY TO HAVE TO CARRY THIS INSURANCE POLICY ON THE MARINA. NOW THIS AGENCY, WORKED WITH FEMA. I RECOMMEND ADDING THEM TO THE LIST AND HAVING THEM TAKE THIS LETTER TO FEMA TO GET AN INSURANCE WAIVER. SO WE DON'T HAVE TO CARRY THIS INSURANCE. THE OTHER FIRM IS GRAY ROBINSON. IT'S ANOTHER LOCAL GOVERNMENT FIRM. SOMEBODY THAT I KNOW OF, I WAS WAITING FOR THEM TO CHANGE THEIR LOCAL
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GOVERNMENT EXPERT NAMED NIKKI DAY IS WITH THIS FIRM NOW IN TAMPA. I WOULD LIKE TO WORK WITH HER ON SPECIAL PROJECTSWHEN NEEDED. >> THANK YOU. IF BY CHANCE YOU HAVE THE NUMBER OFFHAND WITH THAT $400,000 ROUGH ESTIMATE.
WHERE DOES THAT PUT THE MARINA BUDGET CLOSER TO BEING AT A
BREAKING POINT? >> YOU'RE ASKING THE WRONG -- LIKE HOW MUCH CLOSER TO WE GET TO EVEN. HOW MUCH ARE WE IN THE
RED EVERY YEAR. >> OUTSIDE THE SERVICES WE'RE
PROFITABLE. WITHOUT THE WAIVER. >> WHAT'S THE DEBT SERVICE
ANNUALLY. >> IT'S, YOU PUT ME ON THE SPOT. I HAVE TO GET THAT ANSWER.
>> SO THAT'S THE DELTA THAT YOU'RE LOOKING FOR. YEAH. SO
WE'LL GET THAT FOR YOU. >> THANK YOU.
>> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? >> SEEING NONE. DO I HAVE I
HEAR A MOTION. >> I WILL MAKE RESOLUTION
>> SECOND. >> AND SECOND. ANY COMMISSIONER DISCUSSION. PLEASE CALL THE ROLL.
>> COMMISSIONER MINSHEW. >> YES.
>> COMMISSIONER PONTER. >> YES.
[7.7 FLORIDA DIVISION OF AMINISTRATIVE HEARINGS (DOAH) ENGAGEMENT - LEGAL MEDIATION SERVICES - RESOLUTION 2024-235 AUTHORIZING THE CITY ATTORNEY TO ENGAGE THE FLORIDA DIVISION OF ADMINISTRATIVE HEARINGS AND ADMINISTRATIVE LAW JUDGES TO PROVIDE DISPUTE RESOLUTION AND SPECIAL MAGISTRATE SERVICES TO THE CITY ON AN AS-NEEDED BASIS IN FISCAL YEAR 2024- 2025; AUTHORIZING EXECUTION; AND PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE. Synopsis: Authorizes the City Attorney to engage the Florida Department of Administrative Hearings to provide services on an as-needed basis to resolve legal disputes. ]
>> COMMISSIONER TUTEN. >> YES.
>> MAYOR ANTUN. >> YES. THAT MEASURE PASSES
5-0. >> THIS IS A CONTRACT FOR ANOTHER YEAR. NOTHING PAID UP FRONT. $205 PER HOUR FOR AN ADMINISTRATIVE LAW JUDGE WHO IS A LICENSED ATTORNEY AND APPOINTED BY THE GOVERNOR TO HEAR ADMINISTRATIVE CASES. SO WE HAVE USED THIS SERVICE. AT THIS EXCELLENT HOURLY RATE FOR SERVICES AND MEDIATION. WE USED JUDGE EARLY IN THE PORT AUTHORITY JOINT PUBLIC MEDIATION THAT WE HAD LAST TIME. AND IT WAS SUCCESSFUL. SO I THINK IT'S A GOOD SERVICE FOR A VERY GOOD RATE. SO I RECOMMEND APPROVAL FOR ANOTHER
YEAR. >> THANK YOU. DO WE HAVE A
MOTION ON THE FLOOR. >> MOTION.
>> SECOND. >> MOTION AND SECOND. ANY COMMISSIONER DISCUSSION? PLEASE CALL THE ROLL.
[7.8 PURCHASE APPROVAL - CXT INC., AN LB FOSTER COMPANY - RESOLUTION 2024-236 APPROVING THE PURCHASE AND INSTALLATION OF PREFABRICATED BATHROOMS FOR HICKORY STREET PARK FROM CXT INC., AN LB FOSTER COMPANY, IN THE AMOUNT OF $135,410.66 ; AUTHORIZING EXECUTION; AND PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE. Synopsis: Approves the purchase and installation of prefabricated bathrooms at Hickory Street Park from CXT Inc., an LB Foster Company, in the amount of $135,410.66. ]
>> COMMISSIONER PONYTER. >> YES.
>> COMMISSIONER MINSHEW. >> YES.
>> MAYOR ANTUN. >> YES. THAT MEASURE PASSES
5-0. THE NEXT RESOLUTION. >> 20.4 APPROVING THE PURCHASE OF PREFABRICATED RESTROOMS. YOU WEAR THIS TO ADD RESTROOMS TO THE PARK. AND STAFF WOULD LIKE TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS
PROJECT. >> I HAVE ONE REQUEST FOR PUBLIC COMMENT ON THIS ITEM PLEASE.
>> SHEILA COCKEY. I'M THE PRESIDENT OF THE HOA FOR PARK VIEW II WHICH IS ADJACENT TO HICKORY PARK. THAT'S OUR BACKYARD BASICALLY. AND THANK YOU FOR HOPEFULLY YOU WILL APPROVE THIS. THESE BATHROOMS, THE PROJECT WITH THE SCHOOL BOARD. WORKING TOGETHER TO GET THESE THEIR SURELY NEEDED. THE KIDS OUT THERE REALLY, THE CLOSEST BATHROOM IS REALLY FAR AWAY. SO A LOT OF THEM EITHER DON'T USE THE BATHROOM OR USE THE BATHROOM OUTSIDE. SO THIS IS VERY WELCOMED. OUR NEIGHBORHOOD APPRECIATES IT. ALL THE KIDS WHO USE THE PARK, THAT PARK IS USED ALL THE TIME. FOR VARIOUS SPORTS, ORGANIZED THROUGH THE SCHOOL, ORGANIZED THROUGH LIKE YOUTH SOCCER, ALSO ORGANIZED JUST PICK UP GAMES SO THANK YOU FOR DOING THIS. IT'S WELL NEEDED. THANKS TO YOUR PARKS AND REC AND JEREMIAH FOR
GETTING THIS DONE. >> THANK YOU MRS. COCKEY. DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS. DO I HEAR A MOTION?
>> MOTION AND SECOND. ANY COMMISSIONER DISCUSSION? I WOULD JUST LIKE TO ACKNOWLEDGE AS WELL AS THE CITY SCHOOL BOARD. THIS ITEM IS ALMOST TWO YEARS IN THE MAKING THAT WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT IT. IT'S NICE TO FINALLY SEE THAT WE'RE MAKING IT HAPPEN. SO WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. NO DISCUSSION. PLEASE CALL THE ROLL.
[7.9 SOLE SOURCE PURCHASE APPROVAL - OVIVO USA, LLC - RESOLUTION 2024-237 APPROVING OVIVO USA, LLC AS A SOLE SOURCE VENDOR TO REBUILD AND REPURPOSE ONE AERATOR REDUCER H3BV07 GEARBOX FOR THE UTILITIES DEPARTMENT IN AN AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED $52,190.00; AUTHORIZING EXECUTION; AND PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE. Synopsis: Approves Ovivo USA, LLC as a sole source vendor to rebuild and repurpose one Aerator Reducer H3BV07 Gearbox from Ovivo in an amount not to exceed $52,190.]
>> COMMISSIONER POYNTER. >> YES.
>> COMMISSIONER MINSHEW. >> YES.
>> COMMISSIONER TUTEN. >> YES.
>> THAT MEASURE PASSES 5-0. >> VICTORIA GUARDINA, WHAT WE
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HAVE FOR YOU IS SOLE SOURCE PURCHASE APPROVAL. OVIVO USA.>> PLEASE CALL THE ROLL. >> COMMISSIONER MINSHEW.
>> YES. >> COMMISSIONER TUTEN.
[7.10 FACILITIES USE AGREEMENT - COALITION FOR THE HOMELESS OF NASSAU COUNTY, INC. - RESOLUTION 2024-238 APPROVING A FACILITIES USE AGREEMENT WITH COALITION FOR THE HOMELESS OF NASSAU COUNTY, INC. FOR USE OF THE MLK RECREATION CENTER PATRICIA A. THOMPSON AUDITORIUM FOR EMERGENCY COLD WEATHER SHELTERS IN 2024, 2025, AND 2026; AUTHORIZING EXECUTION; AND PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE. Synopsis: Approves a Facilities Use Agreement with the Coalition for the Homeless Nassau County, Inc., to provide cold-weather emergency shelter on an asneeded basis for three years.]
>> YES. >> COMMISSIONER POYNTER.
>> YES. >> COMMISSIONER ANTUN.
>> THAT PASSES 5-0. >> THIS IS FOR A THREE YEAR AGREEMENT WITH COALITION ON THE HOMELESS FOR AN AS NEEDED ON A REQUEST SHELTER AT THE MARTIN LUTHER KING JR. CENTER. THE AUDITORIUM AREA. YEAH. AND SO, THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE PUT OFF RENEWING BECAUSE OF THE NEW NO PUBLIC CAMPING STATE LAW THAT JUST PASSED, I'M SORRY. I JUST KIND OF BRAIN FOG THERE FOR A MINUTE. ANY WAY, THE NEW LAW WAS SOMETHING THAT LOCAL GOVERNMENT WILL LOOK INTO. WHEN WE LOOKED INTO IT A LITTLE BIT BECAUSE IT TALKS ABOUT PUBLIC BUILDINGS. AND WHEN, YOUR TALKING ABOUT NO PUBLIC CAMPING AND PUBLIC BUILDINGS IT DIDN'T MAKE IT CLEAR WHETHER IT'S INSIDE OR IT WAS OUTSIDE. BUT WHEN WE REVIEWED IT FURTHER, WE DISCUSSED IT WITH OTHER COLLEAGUES THE DEFINITION OF CAMPING OR SLEEPING ITSELF IN THE STATUTE IS IF THIS IS THE TENT CITY STATUTE IS WHAT IT IS. SO THAT'S WHAT THE LEGISLATURE WAS TRYING TO GET AT. NOT CITIES LIKE OURS OPENING OUR AUDITORIUMS FOR COLD NIGHT SHELTER AS NEEDED. I FELT COMFORTABLE RECOMMENDING ANOTHER THREE YEAR AGREEMENT WITH THEM. AND I FEEL LIKE, WE'RE IN GOOD STANDING AND I RECOMMEND APPROVAL.
>> THANK YOU. DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? I WOULD LIKE TO ACKNOWLEDGE THIS IS A WONDERFUL THING THE CITY IS ABLE TO DO FOR THOSE. AND DO I HEAR A MOTION?
>> PUBLIC COMMENT. >> OH, I'M SORRY. THAT'S RIGHT WE HAVE THREE PUBLIC COMMENTS. DIDN'T WANT TO SKIP
OVER YOU. >> YOU CAN STILL GET A MOTION,
YOU JUST CAN'T VOTE. >> WE'LL TAKE PUBLIC COMMENT FIRST THEN WE WILL FINISH THE MOTION. I APOLOGIZE. MRS.
COCKEY PLEASE COME UP. >> SHEILA COKEY, INDIGO STREET.
THANK YOU FOR AGREEING TO DO THIS. I KNOW WE'VE HAD LOTS OF CONVERSATIONS PERSONALLY ABOUT THIS SO THANKS JEREMIAH, TAMMY FOR GETTING THIS DONE. IT IS IMPORTANT TONIGHT, PEOPLE I HAD TO PULL OUT SOCKS THIS MORNING. SO IT'S, IT'S IMPORTANT ESPECIALLY ON COLD NIGHTS LIKE THIS. BUT I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO RECK -- REMIND ALL OF YOU THAT WE HAVE EXTREMELY HOT NIGHTS, WET NIGHTS. FLOODING FOLLOWED BY BACK TO BACK HURRICANES.
WHERE PEOPLE WHO DON'T HAVE A HOME ARE SOME PLACE. AND WHERE THAT IS, ON A NIGHT LIKE TONIGHT, THANKFULLY IT'S AT THE REC CENTER, THE MLK REC CENTER TO GIVE THEM SOME SHELTER. I WENT LAST MONTH TO THE LEGISLATIVE LEGISLATION FOR NASSAU COUNTY. SENATOR YARBRO AND SENATOR BLACK AND TALKED TO THEM ABOUT THE NEED FOR A SHELTER IN OUR COMMUNITY. WE HAVE ORGANIZATIONS THAT ARE TRYING TO DO THE WORK OF MANY.
TRYING TO DO WHAT THEY CAN WITH LIMITED RESOURCES TO HELP THIS POPULATION OF PEOPLE. THIS IS A PROBLEM THAT IS NOT GOING TO GET BETTER. IT IS GOING TO GET WORSE AS OUR HOUSING SITUATION AND SOME OF THE CRISIS THAT WE FACE NOT ONLY IN OUR COMMUNITY BUT IN OUR COUNTY AND NATIONALLY AS WELL. I SPOKE TO COMMISSIONER PUTMAN IN THE COUNTY ABOUT AN IDEA FOR A SHELTER THAT A PARTNERSHIP THAT COULD BE HAD BETWEEN THE CITY AND THE COUNTY TO PURCHASE A PROPERTY. HAVE A BUILDING A SHELTER THAT CAN BE BUILT WITH PUBLIC AND PRIVATE MONEY TO BUILD THE BUILDING AND HAVE THE COALITION SO WE COULD HAVE THE BUILDING FOR ALL THE TIMES NOT JUST SOME OF THE TIMES WHEN IT'S EXTREMELY COLD. THE LAWS THAT ARE NOW IN PLACE IN OCTOBER. STARTING OCTOBER FIRST IT MAKES IT ILLEGAL TO SLEEP OUTDOORS. TO SLEEP, WE ARE PENALIZING POVERTY. AND WE'RE NOT, WE'RE PUTTING OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT IN A BAD SITUATION
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ASKING THEM TO POLICE THESE THINGS. ASKING PEOPLE NOT TO GIVE OUT TENTS WHEN THAT'S ALL THEY WOULD HAVE. WE CAN DO BETTER. AND I RECOMMEND THAT YOU NOT ONLY HAVE THIS ON A COLD NIGHT. THERE'S EXTREME SITUATIONS THAT WE HAVE TO GET PEOPLE OUT OF RAIN OR FLOODING THAT IS NOT JUST AN EVACUATION ORDER FOR THE COUNTY WIDE SHELTER. I HOPE THAT WE CAN MAYBE LOOK AT GETTING SOME GRANTS. I WOULD LIKE TO TALK TO SOME PEOPLE ABOUT HOW TO DO THIS. BEFORE CHARLIE PASSED HE HELPED ME DRAW UP A BUILDING THAT CAN BE BUILT FOR LESS . WE CAN DO THIS AND I WOULD LOVE TO TALK TO ANY OF YOU ABOUT HOW WE CAN DO THAT, THANK YOU. FOR APPROVING THIS.>> THANK YOU. NEXT UP WE HAVE MR. RICHARD GALLOR.
>> RICH KALD BALLORD. LAST TIME I SAT AT THIS PODIUM THE CITY WASSING HIRING ME TO BE THE DOCK MASTER FOR YOUR BRAND NEW MARINA. IF I UNDERSTAND CORRECTLY, IT'S ALMOST PROFITABLE. CONGRATULATIONS. I WOULD LIKE TO THANK ALL OF YOU WHO WERE INVOLVED WITH LETTING US USE THIS BUILDING TONIGHT. I THINK WE HAVE MAYBE 20 SOULS THAT ARE UTILIZING THE WARMNESS OF THE SHELTER THAT YOU GUYS PROVIDE FOR US. PROBABLY JUST AS INFLUENCING WAS THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE WHO SHOWED UP TO ACTUALLY WORK WITH THOSE HOMELESS PEOPLE TONIGHT. WE'RE FOLLOWING THE GUIDELINES THAT WERE LAID OUT IN THE LAW THAT WAS PASSED. WHERE WE HAVE SOMEBODY AWAKE ALL NIGHT LONG.
AND WE HAVE PEOPLE COMING IN AND OUT EVERY COUPLE OF HOURS.
WE DO PROVIDE FOOD AND IT'S JUST A SAFE PLACE. NOW SOME OF THESE PEOPLE ARE ACTUALLY HOMELESS. SOME OF THESE PEOPLE ARE COUCH SURFERS. SOME OF THESE PEOPLE LIVE IN THEIR CARS. SO WHAT YOU'RE DOING IS VERY VALUABLE. AND IF YOU CAN EXTEND THIS FOR THREE YEARS I AS THE COALITION PRESIDENT TELL YOU WE WILL WORK WITH YOU CLOSELY. MANDATE TO DO THESE THINGS IT'S NOT YOUR CHOICE. I ASSUME IF THIS WAS YOUR CHOICE YOU MIGHT HAVE A DIFFERENT OUTCOME. I PLEDGE TO WORK WITH YOU AND ALL THE THINGS YOU DO. HAVE A COALITION OF ALL THE DIFFERENT ORGANIZATIONS AND COME UP WITH THE ANSWERS THAT WERE ELOQUENTLY BROUGHT UP EARLIER. THERE IS ANOTHER COALITION THAT IS STARTING TO LOOK FOR A PLACE WHEN IT GETS HOT. AND THEY WANT TO SEE SOME KIND OF AIR-CONDITION. IT WOULD BE WONDERFUL IF WE COULD EXTEND THIS BUILDING TO USE FOR THAT AS WELL. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR
CONSIDERATION. >> THANK YOU MR. BALLARD.
>> AND LASTLY, IS PUBLIC COMMENT ON THIS ISSUE IS ZANA
CARTER. >> I'M ZANA CARLEY. THE COALITION WE DON'T GET PAID. SO THERE HAS TO BE SOME PASSION AND LOVE IN OUR HEARTS. WE DO THIS FOR FREE. BECAUSE WE BELIEVE IN HUMANITY AND WE APPRECIATE THE SHELTER. AND SO WE CAME TO SAY THANK YOU. FOR ALL YOUR HELP AND SUPPORT.
>> NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD.
>> I'M JUNE CARTER, 85089 LITTLE WILLIAM FERNANDINA
BEACH. NEED A ZIP CODE. >> NO.
>> I GET ENTHUSIASTIC. CAN I PASS THESE OUT.
>> YOU CAN DISTRIBUTE THEM AMONGST.
>> WHILE SHE'S PASSING THOSE OUT.
>> THERE YOU GO. YOU CAN PASS THEM.
>> I FIGURED IT WOULD BE A GOOD TIME. I REALLY WANT TO THANK EVERYONE WHO HELPED WITH THIS. ESPECIALLY YOU, CAMMY WHO ARE ALWAYS. I'M CARLINE MCDUFFY. RIGHT NOW I FEEL LIKE I LIVE AT 500 ELM STREET. IT'S BEEN FUN. I CAUGHT UP ON MY NETFLIX
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SERIES ALL OF THEM. I'M THE PERSON WHO'S BEEN STAYING AWAKE ALONG WITH BOB. BOB CHESTNUT.>> 85194 AIRPLANE LANE. SO MANY OF YOU HELP IN SO MANY WAYS.
WISH THERE WAS ANOTHER PART OF MY COUNTY THAT HELPED IN THIS WAY. YOU GUYS REALLY COME TO THE PLATE AND YOU REALLY DO A GREAT JOB WITH HELPING US. FIRST NIGHT SUNDAY NIGHT WE HAD ABOUT EIGHT PEOPLE THERE. SEVEN OR EIGHT PEOPLE THERE. MONDAY NIGHT WE HAD 14 AND TONIGHT I UNDERSTAND FROM RICHARD WE HAVE ABOUT 20. ALSO, I WANT TO REMIND YOU THAT WE ARE OUT OF BLANKETS. WE JUST GOT A NOTICE THAT WE'RE OUT OF BLANKETS. SO IF ANYBODY HAS AN EXTRA BLANKET PLEASE DROP IT OFF FOR US. WE WOULD REALLY, REALLY APPRECIATE IT. IT'S BEEN A PLEASURE TO SERVE THE COALITION FOR ABOUT 5 YEARS. I LOOK FORWARD FOR A NEW ADVENTURE, A NEW COMPANY. A NEW NONPROFIT CALLED AFFORDABLE HOUSING FIRST. IMAGINE WHAT THAT'S GOING TO BE ALL ABOUT.
SO ANY WAY, THANK YOU. AND I LET ANYBODY ELSE SPEAK.
>> I JUST WANTED TO SAY, THANK YOU TO MRS. BESS WHO HELP ED US WITH THE PROCLAMATION FOR OUR NATIONAL HOMELESS DAY. EVERYONE IS INVITED OUT. WE'RE GOING TO READ THE PROCLAMATION AT THAT TIME. ANYBODY IS INVITED TO JOIN US. AUDIENCE INCLUDED TO JOIN US AT MEMORIAL UNITED METHODIST CHURCH WHERE WE WILL OFFER A COMMUNITY MEAL ON CHRISTMAS MORNING. EVERYBODY CAN COME. EVERYBODY. BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT COMMUNITY IS ALL ABOUT. SO THANK YOU FOR HELPING WITH THE PROCLAMATION. THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING US TO USE MLK. AND WE'RE JUST GRATEFUL.
>> THANK YOU MRS. CARVER AND OTHERS.
>> THOSE OF YOU WHO DIDN'T GET THE FLIER. THE DATE FOR THE PROCLAMATION TO BE READ IS ON THE COURTHOUSE STEPS.
>> THANK YOU MRS. TUTEN. >> NEXT WE HAVE ITEM 7.11. YOU
HAD A MOTION. >> YES, TAMMY. HOW EASY WOULD
IT BE TO ALSO ADD ON FOR HOT? >> EASY, JUST SAY IT. AND AS AMENDED. JUST SAYING HOT, OF COURSE WHAT IS HOT. WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO DO, IF YOU WANT THAT TO HAPPEN, WE'RE ALREADY LETTING THEM USE IT NOW WITHOUT THE, LET'S NOT APPROVE IT AND TRY TO AMEND IT AND HOPE THAT YOU ALL LIKE THE LANGUAGE. WE WORK WITH THE COALITION AND BRING, IS IT JUST HOT OR OTHER SPECIAL SITUATIONS YOU'RE INTERESTS IN AS REQUESTED BECAUSE THAT WE COULD PUT INTO THE AGREEMENT AND BRING IT
BACK. >> SOMETHING LIKE EXTREME
WEATHER CONDITIONS PERHAPS. >> GREAT. I THINK WE DO. IF YOU WOULD MAKE A MOTION TO POSTPONE IT TO THE FIRST MEETING IN JANUARY THAT WILL GIVER -- GIVE US TIME TO WORK ON IT. IF YOU WOULD DO IT TO THE JANUARY 7TH MEETING AND MAKE A MOTION. WE WOULD ALLOW ALL OF THE REQUESTS TO BE GRANTED FOR THE COLD NIGHTS. JANUARY FIRST WE'LL GO AHEAD AND HAVE ANOTHER AGREEMENT BEFORE YOU FOR SOME OF THE OTHER OPTIONS.
>> WE CAN ADD A POINT FROM THE VICE MAYOR.
>> ARE THEY STILL GOING TO BE ABLE TO USE IT IF WE DON'T
APPROVE IT TONIGHT. >> YES, FOR COLD NIGHTS. YES.
>> DO I HAVE A MOTION TO POSTPONE THIS TO THE UPCOMING
AGENDA IN JANUARY. >> YES, TO JANUARY.
>> JANUARY 7TH YES. >> MOTION AND A SECOND.
>> SECOND. >> SO MOVED DO WE HEAR ANY
FURTHER DISCUSSION? >> PLEASE CALL THE ROLE.
[7.11 EASEMENT AGREEMENTS - DOWNTOWN CRAB, LLC - RESOLUTION 2024-239 APPROVING TWO EASEMENT AGREEMENTS WITH DOWNTOWN CRAB, LLC, FOR THE CITY TO INSTALL A SIDEWALK AND FENCE AND FOR UNDERGROUNDING ELECTRICAL LINES IN ACCORDANCE WITH RESOLUTION 2024-197; APPROVING COMPENSATION IN THE AMOUNT OF $100,000 IN EXCHANGE FOR THE EASEMENTS; AUTHORIZING EXECUTION; AND PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE. Synopsis: Approves paying Downtown Crab, LLC, $100,000 in exchange for executing two easements to construct a sidewalk on Alachua Street and complete utilities undergrounding.]
>> COMMISSIONER POYNTER. >> YES.
>> COMMISSIONER TUTEN. >> COUNCIL MEMBER MINSHEW.
>> YES, THAT MOTION PASSED. >> RESOLUTION TWO EASEMENT AGREEMENTS WITH DOWNTOWN LLC. AND THIS IS TWO EASEMENTS FOR TWO PURPOSES ONE THE UNDER GROUNDING OF ELECTRICAL UTILITY LINES THERE ON THE PORTION. THE OTHER PORTION IS TO GAIN TO GET ACCESS TO SIX FOOT OF PROPERTY TO ALLOW FOR THE EXTENSE OF THE PARKING LOT. $100,000, STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL.
>> DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? DO I HEAR A MOTION?
>> I MOVE TO APPROVE. >> AND I WILL SECOND.
>> MOTION AND SECOND. ANY COMMISSIONER DISCUSSION? SEEING
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NONE, PLEASE CALL THE ROLL. >> COMMISSIONER POYNTER.
[7.12 ALACHUA STREET MUNICIPAL STORMWATER FEE STRUCTURE - RESOLUTION 2024- 240 APPROVING A PROPORTIONAL SHARE FEE TO PRIVATE PROPERTY OWNERS FOR OFFSITE STORMWATER TREATMENT IN THE ALACHUA STREET MUNICIPAL STORMWATER SYSTEM; AUTHORIZING EXECUTION; AND PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE. Synopsis: Approving a proportional share fee, in the amount of $1.92 per gross square foot, for properties to purchase offsite treatment capacity in the Alachua Street municipal stormwater system. ]
>> YES. >> COMMISSIONER TUTEN.
>> YES. >> COMMISSIONER MINSHEW.
>> MAYOR ANTUN. >> YES, THAT MOTION PASSES 5-0.
OUR NEXT RESOLUTION. >> RESOLUTION APPROVING FEE STRUCTURE. WE TOUCHED ON IT BRIEFLY EARLIER FOR THE STORM WATER IMPROVEMENTS. AS PART OF THIS, DESIGN WE'VE INCORPORATED CAPACITY FOR THE ANTICIPATED NEEDS FOR THREE ADJACENT PROPERTIES THAT ARE UNDER CONSIDERATION FOR REDEVELOPMENT THAT HAVE INDICATED HAVE REQUESTED AT CAPACITY. WE HAVE NO FORMAL IMPROVEMENTS. THIS IS BASICALLY ESTABLISHING THAT VERY LIMITED OUTSIDE RETENTION. THE WAY WE APPROACHED THIS, IS THE THREE PROPERTIES JUST FOR YOUR REFERENCE ARE THE TOWNHOME DEVELOPMENTS. THAT'S CURRENTLY UNDER CONSTRUCTION. THE STANDARD MARINE REDEVELOPMENT. AND THE GREAT FIELD IN PARKING IS CURRENT USE OF THE PROPERTY THAT, FRONT IS ON. THE RAILROAD BETWEEN SALTY PELICAN. SO, WHAT WE'VE DONE IS, KIND OF EVALUATED THE VALUE OF THE OFF SITE TREATMENT IN LIEU OF ON-SITE. AND THE WAY WE APPROACHED THIS IS WE PUT A VALUE OF $100,000 ON THIS CAPACITY. AND CREATED A PROPORTIONAL SHARE. IT'S REPRESENTATIVE REGARDLESS IF IT'S A COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT. THEY GENERATE ROUGHLY THE SAME AMOUNT OF IMPERVIOUS AREA. WITH SIMILAR LOT USES. WE FELT THIS WAS AN EQUITABLE WAY TO REIMBURSE THE CITY FOR THE COST OF THE INFRASTRUCTURE AND CONTRIBUTE TOWARD THE MAINTENANCE OF THAT INFRASTRUCTURE. I ALSO WANTED TO CLARIFY THAT WHEN WE APPLY OUR STORM WATER UTILITY FEES AS PART OF OUR MONTHLY UTILITY WITH THESE FACILITIES USING OFF SITE CITY INFRASTRUCTURE THEY WOULD NOT BE ELIGIBLE FOR THAT RATE REDUCTION. SO JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY THAT FOR THE RECORD.
STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL. HERE IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
>> ANY QUESTIONS FOR MR. DESMOND.
>> JUST ONE QUESTION. CAN YOU GUYS APPROVE SOMETHING IN YOUR COMMISSION APPROVE LAST YEAR FEES. BECAUSE I KNOW, MY PROJECT WAS IN THAT FEE AT ONE TIME.
>> WE HAD A FREE STRUCTURE THAT WAS A LITTLE CONDILLUTED. I DON'T BELIEVE THERE WAS EVER A FINAL ADOPTION OF THAT FREE STRUCTURE. IT WAS PROPOSED BUT WE WEREN'T FAR ENOUGH TO
FORMALLY ADOPT THAT. >> WERE THERE ANY OTHER SYSTEMS
LIKE THIS, IN THE CITY? >> NO. THE SYSTEM THAT'S
CREATED IS UNIQUE. >> IT IS. IT'S PART OF THE, THE METHOD THAT ALLOWS THIS SITUATION IS THE MUNICIPAL CONCEPTUAL STORM WATER PERMIT. THAT WE DID, IT WAS, IT'S KIND OF AN INNOVATIVE APPROACH. WHEN WE LOOK AT THIS REGION OF WATER MANSION DISTRICT. THEY HAVEN'T DONE THIS TYPE OF PERMIT BEFORE. WHAT IT DOES IS IT KIND OF PUTS AN UMBRELLA PERMIT OVER THE DOWNTOWN DRAINAGE SPACE. THERE'S FOUR AREAS. AND PROPERTIES THAT ARE WITHIN THIS REGION, THEY CAN USE THE TRADITIONAL STORM WATER METHOD WHICH IS VOLUME BASED. YOU KNOW, IT'S CALLED PRESUMPTIVE STORM WATER TREATMENT. IF WE
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RETAIN THIS MUCH VOLUME, WE'RE ASSUMED WE WOULD MEET ALL THE WATER QUALITY GUIDELINES. WHAT THIS ALLOWS IS YOU TO TAKE A STORM QUALITY WATER APPROACH. AS LONG AS THERE'S CAPACITY IN THE SYSTEM, BECAUSE IT DOESN'T GO TO A POND IT JUST GOES TO THE RIVER. AS LONG AS YOU MEET, YOU CAN DO A DETAILED ANALYSIS OF THE POLLUTANTS. YOU CAN PUT IN DIFFERENT WHAT WE CALL BEST, BEST MANAGEMENT PRACTICES TO IMPROVE THAT STORM WATER QUALITY FILTRATION. IT'S A DIFFERENT METHOD FOR ANALYSIS.WHAT WE DID AND THAT PERMIT FRAME WORK IS ALLOWED FOR YOU KNOW US TO BUILD IN ADDITIONAL TREATMENT CAPACITY IN OUR INFRASTRUCTURE. WE ALSO HAVE THE CAPACITY TO DO THAT IN NASH STREET WHEN WE DO THIS TYPE OF INFRASTRUCTURE WITH THE STORM WATER STRUCTURE. FILTER THAT WILL MEET THOSE REQUIREMENTS.
THIS AREA IS UNIQUE WHERE IT HAS SEVERAL UNDEVELOPED PROPERTIES. YOU KNOW A LOT OF AREAS ARE BUILT OUT WHERE IT'S NOT AS FEASIBLE. BUT THIS IS THE FIRST SYSTEM WE HAVE IN THE CITY AND THERE'S NOT A LOT OF OTHER ONES IN THE STATE THAT
I'M AWARE OF. >> EXCELLENT, THAT'S IT.
>> COMMISSIONER MINSHEW. >> I JUST HAVE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS UNDER IT. SO THEY'RE GOING TO PAY THIS ONE TIME FEE.
AND THIS IS IN LIEU OF HAVING TO MAINTAIN THEIR STORM WATER
ON THEIR OWN PROPERTY. >> CORRECT.
>> SO IS THAT IN PERPETUITY? >> YES.
>> SO IF THAT PROPERTY IS SOLD TO SOMEONE ELSE. THIS THEY DON'T HAVE TO KEEP THE STORM DRAIN ON THEIR PROPERTY.
>> EXACTLY. IT GOES WITH THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE PROPERTY.
>> SO, SO THE ONE AT THE PARKING LOT. IT'S, SO IF SOMEONE WERE TO DEVELOP SOMETHING ON THAT LOT THEY WOULD NOT HAVE TO MAINTAIN THEIR STORM WATER ON THAT
PROPERTY? >> WELL, THIS IS ANTICIPATING THAT DEVELOPMENT. THIS FREE WOULD ONLY BE DUE WHEN THEY UTILIZE THAT CAPACITY. THEY COULD OPT NOT TO. THEY COULD DO AN ON-SITE TREATMENT SYSTEM AND NOT CONTRIBUTE TOWARD THE CITY.
SO RIGHT NOW, WE'RE NOT ANTICIPATING ANY STORM WATER TREATMENT NEEDS FOR THAT PROPERTY. AND, SO AT SUCH TIME THEY DEVELOP THAT PROPERTY THEY WOULD PAY THEIR STORM WATER
CAPACITY FEE. AND. >> WHICH IS THIS FEE?
>> RIGHT. >> AND WHEN THEY PERMIT WITH WATER MANAGEMENT DISTRICT WE WOULD DOCUMENT THAT THEY, YES WE HAVE PROVIDED THIS CAPACITY IN OUR SYSTEM IN LIEU OF ON-SITE TREATMENT AND IT WOULD BE PERMITTED UNDER THIS
UMBRELLA CONSENSUAL TREATMENT. >> GOT IT.
>> WHAT HAPPENS 20, 30, 50 YEARS NOW. WHEN THE SYSTEM THAT WE BUILD FAILS AND THEY'RE NOT GETTING STORM WATER ANYMORE.
WHO PAYS TO FIX IT. WE DO JUST LIKE WE DO FOR ANY.
>> JUST LIKE ANY OTHER CITY INFRASTRUCTURE WE WOULD TAKE CARE OF THE MAINTENANCE FOR THAT.
>> OKAY. >> ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS.
SEEING NONE. DO I HEAR A MOTION.
>> MOVE TO APPROVE. >> SECOND.
>> MOTION AND A SECOND. ANY COMMISSIONER DISCUSSION. THANK YOU ANDRE. SEEING NONE. PLEASE CALL THE ROLL,.
>> COMMISSIONER POYNTER. >> YES.
>> COMMISSIONER MINSHEW. >> YES.
[7.13 PURCHASE APPROVAL AND BUDGET TRANSFER - CUMMINS AND ZABATT POWER SYSTEMS - RESOLUTION 2024-241 APPROVING THE PURCHASE OF THREE COMMERCIAL DIESEL GENERATORS FROM CUMMINS AND A COMMERCIAL DIESEL GENERATOR AND AUTOMATIC TRANSFER SWITCH, INCLUDING INSTALLATION, FROM ZABATT POWER SYSTEMS IN FISCAL YEAR 2024/2025 VIA COOPERATIVE PURCHASE; AUTHORIZING A BUDGET TRANSFER; AUTHORIZING EXECUTION; AND PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE. Synopsis: Approves the purchase of three Cummins commercial diesel generators and a commercial diesel generator and automatic transfer switch, including installation from Zabatt Power Systems, in an amount not to exceed $152,999.66.]
>> COMMISSIONER TUTEN. >> YES.
>> MAYOR ANTUN. >> YES. THAT PASSES 5-0 FOR THE ALACHUA STREET MUNICIPAL STORM WATER FEE STRUCTURE.
>> PURCHASE OF THREE COMMERCIAL GENERATORS THIS SYSTEM WILL BE USED FOR OUR LIFT STATIONS AND UTILITY BUILDING, ADMINISTRATION OFFICE. STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL.
>> WELCOME BACK. >> I APOLOGIZE. THIS IS SOMETHING WE WOULD NORMALLY INCLUDE WITH THE STRUCTURE PLAN. IT WAS AN OVERSIGHT THAT IT WAS NOT INCLUDED. SO THIS IS JUST KIND OF A FORMALITY THAT THESE ARE JUST STANDARD REPLACEMENT GENERATORS THAT HAVE COME TO THE END OF THEIR
LIFE CYCLE. >> THANK YOU. DO I HAVE ANY
QUESTIONS. DO I HEAR A MOTION. >> I MOVE.
>> SECOND. >> MOTION ON THE FLOOR, AND SECOND. ANY COMMISSIONER DISCUSSION? SEEING NONE, PLEASE
CALL THE ROLL. >> COMMISSIONER MINSHEW.
[7.14 SOLE SOURCE PURCHASE APPROVAL - EMPIRE PIPE & SUPPLY - RESOLUTION 2024- 242 APPROVING THE SOLE SOURCE PURCHASE OF MASTER METERS FROM EMPIRE PIPE & SUPPLY FOR THE UTILITIES DEPARTMENT IN AN AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED $847,634.10; AUTHORIZING EXECUTION; AND PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE. Synopsis: Approves the sole source purchase of Master Meters from Empire Pipe & Supply in an amount not to exceed $847,634.10.]
>> YES. >> COMMISSIONER POYNTER.
>> YES. >> COMMISSIONER TUTEN.
>> YES, THAT MOTION PASSES. NEXT MOTION, WE'RE BRINGING UP
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MR. DESOLE AGAIN. >> DEPUTY DIRECTOR IS GOING TO TALK ABOUT OUR METER REPLACEMENT PROJECT.
>> DEPUTY DIRECTOR OF UTILITIES. THE RESOLUTION BEFORE YOU WE SUPPLY PIPES FOR THE REPLACEMENT PROJECT. EMPIRE PIPES IS THE ONLY AUTHORIZED WATER WORKS UTILITY DISTRIBUTOR IN THE STATE OF FLORIDA. WITH THIS PURCHASE WE'LL BE ABLE TO MOVE FORWARD INTO THE THIRD PHASE OF OUR CHANGE OUT PROGRAM THAT WE'RE ENGAGED IN RIGHT NOW. STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL.
>> THANK YOU MR. BROWN. DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
>> GET THE PEOPLE OFF THE SEGWAYS.
>> SEEING NONE. >> THAT IT WILL DO.
>> DO WE HAVE A MOTION. >> MOTION.
>> SECOND. >> MOTION AND SECOND ON THE
FLOOR. >> I GOT TO SEE THESE TODAY LIKE NOT IN THE GROUND BUT IN THE OFFICE. AND THEY'RE VERY COOL LITTLE THINGS. THEY'RE GOING TO MAKE LIFE A LOT EASIER FOR THE WATER DEPARTMENT. IT'S GREAT.
>> IT'S NICE TO SEE YOUR TAX DOLLARS AT WORK.
>> YES. >> AS WE'VE SAID, THE TOILETS FLUSHING YOU DON'T HEAR FROM US. SO THAT'S A GOOD THING.
THANK YOU MR. BROWN. NO FURTHER QUESTIONS. WE HAVE A MOTION,
>> ALL RIGHT. PLEASE CALL THE ROLL.
>> COMMISSIONER POYNTER. >> YES.
[7.15 VOLUNTARY ANNEXATION AGREEMENT - 839, 843, AND 857 ROBIN HOOD DRIVE - RESOLUTION 2024-243 APPROVING THE EXTENSION OF WASTEWATER SERVICES OUTSIDE THE CORPORATE LIMITS; ACCEPTING THE VOLUNTARY ANNEXATION PETITION FOR ONE PARCEL CONTAINING APPROXIMATELY 0.67 ACRES OF LAND LOCATED AT 839, 843, AND 857 ROBIN HOOD DRIVE; AUTHORIZING EXECUTION; AND PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE. Synopsis: Authorizes the extension of wastewater services to the property owner identified whose property is located at 839, 843, and 857 Robin Hood Drive, Parcel Number: 00-00-30-0640-0035-0000 and also approves the Voluntary Annexation Petition.]
>> COMMISSIONER MINSHEW. >> YES.
>> COMMISSIONER TUTEN. >> YES.
>> MAYOR ANTUN. >> YES, THAT MOTION PASSES. WE HAVE 7.14 SOLE SOURCE PURCHASE APPROVAL.
>> DIRECTOR OF PLANNING CONSERVATION. THIS EVENING YOU'RE BEING ASKED TO CONSIDER AN EXTENSION OF MATERIALS PROVIDED. IT IS NOT ANTICIPATED THIS PROPERTY WOULD BE ABLE TO BE ANNEXED AT ANY TIME IN THE NEAR FUTURE. I HAVE SPOKEN TO THE PROPERTY OWNER TODAY. HE'S UNABLE TO ATTEND THE MEETING.
HOWEVER, HE WISHED TO INDICATE HIS REQUEST IS SOLELY TO RECEIVE WASTE WATER SERVICES. AT THIS POINT IN TIME, HIS REQUEST IS SIMPLY, OVER THIS LAST OVER THE LAST DECADE OR SO HE'S WORKED TO REQUIRE THE ADD ADJACENT TO THE PROPERTY. HE WOULD WANT TO KEEP IT. THAT'S A SINGLE PARCEL. AND IS WILLING TO ALLOW FOR THE ENTIRE WATER WASTE WATER AGREEMENT TO EXTEND TO THE HOLDINGS OF THAT PROPERTY. BUT HE'S OPEN TO CONSIDERATION OF REDUCING THAT AREA. AND LIMITING IT JUST TO WHERE HIS HOME EXISTS. RIGHT NOW IT IS A SINGLE PARCEL HE WISHES TO KEEP IT AS A SINGLE PARCEL. PARTICULARLY FOR TAX PURPOSES. AND SO, BEYOND THAT I KNOW THAT HIS SOLE MOTIVATION IS SIMPLY TO RECEIVE THE CITY OF WASTE WATER SERVICES INSTEAD OF REPLACING A FAILURE SEPTIC SYSTEM.
>> DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR MRS. GIBSON.
>> YEAH, DID YOU JUST SAY THAT, HE'S WILLING TO SIGN AN
AGREEMENT? >> NO HE'S WILLING TO, CHANGE THE DESCRIPTION OF WHAT WOULD BE BOUND BY THIS AGREEMENT.
SIMPLY TO THE LAND AREA THAT HIS EXISTING HOME RESIDES. BUT RIGHT NOW THE WAY THAT IT READS IT ENCOMPASSES THE ENTIRETY OF
HIS PROPERTY. >> I JUST HAD A CONVERSATION.
SO GOING FORTH. >> WELL, YOU ARE AND HE'S NOT THE, MR. WILLIAMS IS THE PROPERTY OWNER. HE IS NOT WILLING TO NEGOTIATE ANY TYPE OF REVISION ON THE AGREEMENT TO TALK ABOUT HOW MANY DWELLING UNITS ARE ON THE PROPERTY. A TRANSLATION ON TO DEPARTMENT SPEAK IN TERMS OF WHAT MR. WILLIAMS WILL CONSIDER IS ESSENTIALLY ONE RESIDENTIAL CONNECTION TO THE SEWER SYSTEM. THAT MEANS YOU CAN'T GET ANY CONNECTIONS. ANY OTHER DWELLING UNITS CONNECTIONED.
>> UNLESS YOU SELL IT. >> THIS IS ONE HOME. OUT OF MY LEAGUE A LITTLE BIT BUT IT'S GOING TO NEED A 3/4 INCH METER.
>> THEY ALREADY HAVE WATER. >> THEY ALREADY HAVE WATER.
>> THEY'RE GOING TO NEED A PUMP STATION.
>> I'M VERY CONFIDENT IF MR. WILLIAMS, IF THE COMMISSION IS AMENDABLE TO THIS. AND WE TALKED ONE ON ONE. THAT'S WHY
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IT SOUNDINGS LIKE ONE ON ONE WITH EACH OF YOU WITH COMMISSIONER AYSCUE WHO HAVE WANTED TO PUT A CONDITION. WE MAY NOT ANNEX THIS PROPERTY FOR 40 YEARS. DON'T HAVE ANY IDEA WHAT THE TOWN WILL BE LIKE THEN. BUT PUT SOMETHING IN THERE RIGHT NOW IT LOOKS LIKE THERE COULD BE MORE THAN ONE HOME PLACED ON THIS TAXABLE PARCEL. BECAUSE THERE ARE SUBDIVIDED LOTS THERE IN THE WHOLE SUBDIVISION. SO THEY COULD UNDER COUNTY AND CITY. COMMISSIONERS HAVE INDICATED A DESIRE TO LIMIT THAT. AND HE IS NOT WILLING TO DO THAT. HE DOES NOT WANT TO AFFECT THE RESALE VALUE OF HIS PROPERTY, HIS HEIR'S ABILITY TO RESELL THE PROPERTY. BUT HE IS WILLING TO LIMIT TO THIS ONE HOUSE OR TO SEWER SERVICE. DISCARD THAT WATER, THIS SEWER SERVICE EXTENSION IS ONLY GOING TO SERVE ONE HOME. OKAY. SO THAT'S A WAY TO LIMIT IT TO THEN DOWN THE ROAD IF THEY WANT SEWER FOR THE OTHER PARTS OF THE PROPERTY, THEN THOSE THEY HAVE TO APPLY SEPARATELY.>> MY CONCERN, YOU CAN ONLY DO THREE HOUSES ON THIS PROPERTY AS IT IS. YOU COME TO THE CITY YOU CAN DO FOUR.
>> WE DON'T KNOW. THAT'S A GUESS.
>> WELL IT'S 50-FOOT LOTS. >> THEY MAY NOT BE IN THE CITY IN 40 YEARS. IT'S PURE CONJECTURE.
>> PERSONALLY I'M GOING TO DO ONE HOUSE. SOMEONE ELSE BUYS THE PROPERTY. THEN HE'S OBLIGATED TO PUT TAPS.
>> NO WE'RE NOT. >> IF HE SELLS OFF THE
PROPERTY. >> AND THEY'RE ALREADY ANNEXED. I'M SORRY, I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.
>> THEN THE CITY WILL REQUIRE. I WILL MOVE AGAINST THIS. I
>> A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS. SO THEORETICALLY, IF THIS PROPERTY WERE TO COME IN IT WOULD COME IN AT R1. RIGHT NOW IT'S GOT A HOME. IT'S ZONED IN THE COUNTY. MIXED USE? BACK TO COMMISSIONER AYSCUE. THEY CURRENTLY HAVE WATER AND HE WANTS TO ADD SEWER. TOMORROW IF HE WERE TO SELL, ONE OF TWO LOTS, THE OWNER OF THAT LOT COLD COME IN AND ASK FOR WATER
>> BECAUSE IT WOULD THEN BE A NEW OWNER.
>> THOSE OTHER LOTS ARE ALREADY RECEIVING CITY WATER SERVICE.
BUT THEY DO NOT RECEIVE SEWER. >> OKAY.
>> VICE MAYOR. >> SO UNDER THAT THOUGHT PROCESS, TOMORROW, THE SOLE LOT. HE WOULD BE DEVELOPED
UNDER THE CITY CODE? >> COUNTY.
>> SO, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT YEARS FROM NOW. THAT THIS MAY OR MAY NOT BE DEVELOPED UNDER CITY CODE.
>> EVER. >> I MEAN, WE'RE GOING TO
STICK ANOTHER. >> WE'RE GOING TO STICK ANOTHER IN THE GROUND. BECAUSE MAYBE 20 YEARS FROM NOW, THIS BECOMES CONTINUOUS AND THEN THEY WOULD COME UP UNDER, WE WOULD ASSIGN THEM A CITY CODE AND THERE MAY BE ONE UNIT. AND
WE DON'T KNOW THAT. >> I HONESTLY HAVE NOT ANALYZED
IT FOR THOSE P URPOSES. >> SO WE'RE GOING TO DENY THIS GENTLEMEN SEWER BECAUSE MAYBE 20 YEARS FROM NOW THEY MAY BE COMING TO US. I JUST WANT TO MAKE THAT CLEAR.
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>> I'M GOING TO VOTE IN FAVOR. AT THIS JUNCTURE IT'S MORE IMPORTANT TO GET SEPTIC TANKS OFF THIS ISLAND.
>> I AGREE. >> I'M CONCERNED ABOUT THE SIZE OF THIS PROPERTY. THAT IT'S 300 FEET WHICH YOU CUT IT INTO STANDARDS CITY. 7.5-FOOT LOTS, FOUR. THAT'S FOUR HOMES.
I DROVE BY THE PROPERTY. I CALLED THE OWNER. IT'S A LOT OF REALLY BIG TREES ON THAT PROPERTY. AND I DO AGREE, GETTING AS MANY PEOPLE OFF SEPTIC AS POSSIBLE IS A GOOD THING. I DO ALSO AGREE THAT WORKING SEPTICS, ARE WORKING SEPTICS. I AM AFRAID OF THE RISK OF FUTURE DEVELOPMENT ON THAT PROPERTY AND MORE HOMES THAN WE WANT TO SEE DEVELOPED.
>> THANK YOU COMMISSIONER MINSHEW. ANY MORE QUESTIONS. DO
I HEAR A MOTION. >> SO THIS IS, RIGHT NOW WHAT, THERE'S NO CHANGES, NO PROPOSED CHANGES TO THE
AGREEMENT. OKAY. >> I WOULD MOVE THE APPROVAL OF RESOLUTION 2024-1343 APPROVING AN ANNEXATION OF 839, 857 ROBIN
HOOD DRIVE. >> SECOND ON THE FLOOR.
>> AND SECOND. >> ANY COMMISSIONER DISCUSSION? SEEING NONE, PLEASE CALL THE ROLL.
>> COMMISSIONER MINSHEW. >> YES.
>> COMMISSIONER POYNTER. >> NO.
>> MAYOR ANTUN. >> YES, THAT PASSES. IT IS IMPORTANT TO CONSIDER THE POTENTIAL THIS WILL NOT BE A 20 PERSON SUBDIVISION. THAT'S WHY I'M WILLING TO SUPPORT THIS.
MOVING ON TO BOARD APPOINTMENTS.
>> IT IS TRUE THESE ARE THREE LOTS THAT ARE TOGETHER IN ONE PARCEL. BUT IF YOU LOOK AT THE BLOCK, THERE ARE THREE OR FOUR LOTS BEHIND THEM. THE REALITY IS IF SOMETHING WERE TO HAPPEN.
IT'S GOING TO BE A BIGGER PROJECT. WHY WOULD PEOPLE JUST BUY THE THREE LOTS WHEN YOU PROBABLY WANT TO BUY THE WHOLE BLOCK. THEN YOU WOULD DO SOMETHING COMPLETELY DIFFERENT.
BUT AGAIN, THAT'S A LONG WAY DOWN THE ROAD WE HOPE. IN THE MEANTIME, WE'RE JUST, WE'RE GOING TO GET HIM ON SEPTIC.
[8.1 AIRPORT ADVISORY COMMISSION - Five appointments; three applicants: George Haffey, Prudence Hostetter, and Thomas Piscitello.]
>> THANK YOU, WE HAVE THE AIRPORT ADVISORY COMMISSION. WE HAVE FIVE APPOINTMENTS AND THREE APPLICANTS. DO I HEAR A
MOTION? >> I MOVE THE APPROVAL OF APPLICANT HAPPY HOSTEDER AND PICOTELO TO THE AIRPORT ADVISORY COMMISSION. HAFFEY, HOSTETTER AND PISCITELLO.
>> DO WE HAVE TO DO THEM TOGETHER.
>> I'M FINE WITH THIS ONE. THERE WILL BE OTHERS.
>> I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.
>> WHO MADE THE SECOND? >> NOBODY YET.
>> AYSCUE. >> THAT WAS YOUR SECOND. VICE
MAYOR, FINE. >> ANY COMMISSIONER DISCUSSION? SEEING NONE, CITY CLERK PLEASE CALL THE ROLL.
[8.2 BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT - Six appointments; three applicants: Taina Christner, Barry Hertslet, and Len Kreger.]
>> COMMISSIONER MINSHEW. >> YES.
>> COMMISSIONER TUTEN. >> YES.
>> MAYOR ANTUN. >> YES AND THAT PASSES. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE DID WANT TO HAVE THAT REINSTATINGED TO THE AGENDA. THERE'S NO ISSUE TO HAVING IT DONE.
>> THAT'S FINE. >> DO I HEAR A MOTION?
>> SECOND. >> MOVED TO APPROVE ALL THREE
>> NO OBJECTIONS. >> THAT'S OUR SECOND.
>> I HAVE AN OBJECTION. >> YOU DO HAVE AN OBJECTION.
TALK TO US ABOUT IT. >> LET'S HEAR A MOTION FOR AN
INDIVIDUAL NAME FIRST. >> I MOVE THE APPOINTMENT OF
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TAINA CHRISTNER. >> COMMISSIONER MINSHEW.
>> YES. >> COMMISSIONER POYNTER.
>> YES, THAT PASSES 4-1. >> I MOVE THE APPOINTMENT OF
BARRY HERTSLET. >> DO I HEAR A SECOND.
>> SECOND. >> ANY COMMISSIONER DISCUSSION.
PLEASE CALL THE ROLL. >> COMMISSIONER POYNTER.
>> YES. >> COMMISSIONER MINSHEW.
>> YES. >> COMMISSIONER TUTEN.
>> YES. >> MAYOR ANTUN, THAT PASSES.
[8.3 BOARD OF TRUSTEES OF THE FIREFIGHTERS' AND POLICE OFFICERS' PENSION PLAN - One appointment; one applicant: Walter Sturges.]
>> I MOVE THE APPOINTMENT OF LEN KREGER.
>> THAT MOTION PASSES 5-0. >> BOARD OF TRUSTEES OF THE FIREFIGHTERS' AND POLICE OFFICERS' PENSION PLAN. DO I
>> DO I HEAR A SECOND. >> SECOND.
>> ANY DISCUSSION, SEEING NONE CALL THE ROLL.
[8.4 CODE ENFORCEMENT AND APPEALS BOARD - One appointment; one applicant: Barb Kent]
>> COMMISSIONER POYNTER. >> YES.
>> COMMISSIONER MINSHEW. >> YES.
>> COMMISSIONER TUTEN. >> YES.
[8.5 COMMUNITY REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY ADVISORY BOARD - Five appointments; five applicants: Eric Bartelt, David Cook Jr, Lisa Finkelstein, Jenny Schaffer, and Michael Spino.]
>> MAYOR ANTUN. >> YES, THAT PASSES 5-0. MOVING
ON TO ITEM 8.5. >> COMMUNITY REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY ADVISORY BOARD. DO I HEAR A MOTION?
>> I WOULD MOVE TO APPOINTMENT ALL FIVE.
>> DO I HEAR ANY OBJECTION? >> NO, SIR.
>> WITH NO OBJECTIONS, I HEAR CONSENSUS. PLEASE CALL THE
ROLL. >> COMMISSIONER MINSHEW.
[8.6 GOLF CLUB ADVISORY BOARD - Two appointments; two applicants: Michael Kelly and Lynn Sikorski. ]
>> YES. >> COMMISSIONER POYNTER.
>> YES. >> COMMISSIONER TUTEN.
>> YES, THAT MOTION PASSES. WE MOVE TO THE GOLF CLUB ADVISORY
BOARD. >> I HEAR A MOTION, DO I HEAR ANY OBJECTION TO PUT THESE TWO TOGETHER.
>> NO OBJECTION. >> PLEASE CALL THE ROLL.
>> COMMISSIONER MINSHEW. >> YES.
[8.7 HISTORIC DISTRICT COUNCIL - Four appointments; two applicants: Arlene Filkoff and James Pozetta.]
>> COMMISSIONER POYNTER. >> YES.
>> COMMISSIONER TUTEN. >> YES.
>> MAYOR ANTUN. >> YES, THAT MOTION PASSES 5-0.
>> MOVING ON TO THE MARI NA ADVISORY BOARD.
[8.8 MARINA ADVISORY BOARD - Three appointments; two applicants: Barb Kent and Marian Phillips.]
>> ANY DISCUSSION? HEARING NONE, PLEASE CALL THE ROLL.
>> COMMISSIONER MINSHEW. >> YES.
>> COMMISSIONER POYNTER. >> YES.
[8.9 PARKS AND RECREATION ADVISORY COMMITTEE - Five appointments; seven applicants: Waldemar Borrero, Thomas Camera, Shelia Cocchi, Kendall Curry, Jack Gunn, Elise Pearlstine and Richard Reilly (Part 1 of 2)]
>> COMMISSIONER TUTEN. >> YES.
>> MAYOR ANTUN. >> YES, THAT MOTION PASSES. WE MOVE ON TO THE 8.9 PARKS AND REC ADVISORY COMMITTEE. FIVE APPOINTMENTS DO I HEAR A MOTION.
>> I THINK WE HAVE A BALLOT. >> WE HAVE BALLOTS.
>> YES, FOR THOSE WHO WILL HAVE FIVE COMMISSIONERS AND THE FIVE APPLICANTS WITH THE MOST VOTES WILL BE OUR NEW BOARD MEMBERS.
THANK YOU. >> SO DOES ANY COMMISSIONER HAVE ANY QUESTIONS YOU WRITE DOWN RATHER THAN RANKINGS IS JUST WRITE THE FIVE APPLICANTS YOU WOULD APPOINTMENT. THEN I
WILL ADD UP. >> JUST PUT A CHECK MARK.
>> PUT A CHECK MARK. THEN I WILL ADD UP THE FIVE THAT HAD
THE MOST. >> IS THIS BEFORE? THIS WAS THE SEVENTH APPLICANT IS NOT ON HERE.
>> FIVE VACANCIES. SIX APPLICANTS.
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>> WE HAD A WITHDRAWAL. >> RICHARD RILEY.
>> NOT ON THE VOTING LIST. >> RICHARD RITAS.
>> AND WE CAN DO IT TO THE JEOPARDY MUSIC.
>> WHILE WE WAIT WE WOULD LIKE TO THANK ALL THE CITIZENS THAT SIT ON BOARDS. IT'S AN ENORMOUS AMOUNT OF TIME THAT PEOPLE GIVE FREELY. THANK YOU. HUGE AMOUNTS OF HOME WORK.
THEIR HOME WORK COMES BACK TO THE COMMISSION TO HELP US, IT'S A BIG DEAL. IT'S VERY HELPFUL.
>> AND I WOULD SAY WE NEVER HAVE ENOUGH APPLICANTS FOR ALL OF OUR BOARD APPOINTMENTS. SO IT'S A VERY REWARDING WORK. I WOULD ENCOURAGE ANY OF OUR CITIZENS WHO SERIOUSLY WANT TO WORK TO HELP THE CITY TO APPLY FOR THESE VARIOUS BOARDS. THANK
[8.10 PLANNING ADVISORY BOARD - Two appointments; three applicants: Barbara Gingher, Victoria Robas, and Kim Wolford. ]
CONSIDER THE HOUSING BOARD. >> 8.10, APPOINTMENTS. WE HAVE TWO APPOINTMENTS AND THREE APPLICANTS DO I HEAR A MOTION?
>> I HAVE A QUESTION. >> MRS. KENWALL HAS WITHDRAWN.
>> I WOULD MOVE THE APPROVAL OF BARBARA GINGHER AND VICTORIA
ROBAS. >> CAN WE VOTE ON THESE
INDEPENDENTLY. >> I WOULD NAME THE APPOINTMENT
OF BARBARA GINGHER. >> DO I HEAR A MOTION.
>> DISCUSSION? SEEING NONE, CALL THE ROLL.
>> COMMISSIONER MINSHEW. >> YES.
>> COMMISSIONER POYNTER. >> COMMISSIONER TUTEN.
>> YES. NEXT MOTION. >> I MOVE FOR VICTORIA ROBAS.
[8.9 PARKS AND RECREATION ADVISORY COMMITTEE - Five appointments; seven applicants: Waldemar Borrero, Thomas Camera, Shelia Cocchi, Kendall Curry, Jack Gunn, Elise Pearlstine and Richard Reilly (Part 2 of 2)]
>> ARE YOU READY FOR THE. >> TOM CAM ERA, SHEILA COCCHI.
>> DO WE WISH TO MOVE ALL FIVE ACROSS?
>> I WOULD ON THE, DO WE HAVE A MOTION OR IS THAT IT? THAT'S
>> SO WE DON'T DO A MOTION. >> I APOLOGIZE. SO WE HAVE OUR
[9. CITY MANAGER REPORTS]
FIVE NEW BOARD MEMBER, THEN. CONGRATULATIONS. AND MOVING ONTO CITY MANAGER REPORTS. >> MAYOR, AT THIS TIME I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING. I WOULD REFER TO MRS. CAMPBELL.
>> I WILL JUST SAY THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME. IT'S BEEN AN EXCITING COUPLE OF DAYS. I'M EAGER TO LEARN MORE AND, BE MORE INVOLVED IN YOUR NEXT AGENDA PACKET.
>> WELCOME ON BOARD MRS. CAMPBELL. THANK YOU. NEXT UP.
QUESTIONS FOR OUR CITY MANAGER OR MRS. CAMPBELL. ACTING CITY
MANAGER. >> WELL A FOLLOW UP ON ALL THE PUBLIC DISCUSSION THAT WE HAD THIS COMMISSION HAS BEEN INFORMED FOR THE EXCAVATOR, CORRECT. IT'S NOT A CITY STAFF DECISION. I MEAN THIS IS A CORE DECISION. I'VE CONTINUED TO REACH OUT TO THEM TO GET ADDITIONAL INFORMATION.
COMPILED QUESTIONS TO SEND TO THE CONSULTANT AND TO THE CORP.
TO GET MORE INFORMATION ON THE DREDGING PROJECT. AS OF NOW, WE HAVE NO MANAGEMENT OVER THE EQUIPMENT USE OF THIS PROJECT.
THANK YOU. >> WE CAN'T ASK THEM TO USE THEIR LARGER SCREEN SIZE WHICH IS FOUR INCHES BY FOUR INCHES.
>> I CAN ABSOLUTELY ASK THEM. >> CAN I ASK THEM THAT.
>> THAT'S ON THE LIST, YES. >> COMMISSIONER POYNTER.
>> JUST ON THIS TOPIC. I THINK WE HEARD A LOT OF VERY PASSIONAL THINGS BUT ONE THING I DO WANT TO RELAY TO PEOPLE IS, THIS IS ALL COMING OFF THE BOTTOM OF THE OCEAN. AND IN THIS CASE PUT BACK ON TO THE BEACH. THEY ARE NOT SCREENING OUR ENTIRE BEACH. AND FILTERING OUT THE BEACH. SO ALL THE SHARK
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TEETH AND EVERYTHING THAT ARE THERE ARE STILL GOING TO BE THERE. THEY WILL BE PUTTING MORE SAND, MORE SHARK TEETH AND STUFF ON TO THE BEACH. SO, THEY'RE NOT, THEY'RE NOT FILTERING OUT ALL THE EXISTING SAND THAT WE HAVE. THAT STAYS WITH ALL THE SHARK TEETH AND ALL THAT. THEY'RE JUST ADDING MORE OFF THE BOTTOM. I THINK THAT GOT LOST SOME WHERE IN THE>> THANK YOU COMMISSIONER POYNTER.
>> I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO SAY THE DREDGING IS ESSENTIAL BECAUSE OF OUR, OF THE TWO JETTIES. THE TWO JETTIES ON THE SOUTH END OF CUMBERLAND ON THE SOUTH END OF AMELIA ISLAND THAT ALLOW FOR THE SUB. THE NUCLEAR SUB TO GET IN AND OUT. THOSE JETTIES BLOCK THE NATURAL MOVEMENT OF THE SAND. SO WE SHOULD NATURALLY BE GETTING SAND BECAUSE OF THE PREVAILING WINDS. THAT SAND SHOULD BE FALLING ON CUMBERLAND INTO THE CHANNEL AND BACK ON TO AMELIA ISLAND. THE JETTIES BLOCK IT. SO WE HAVE TO HAVE THE DREDGING OR WE'LL JUST BE TOO SHRINK. IT IS NOT A NATURAL PROCESS. IT BRINGS UP LARGER THINGS THAN SHOULD BE BROUGHT UP. BECAUSE THE WAVE ACTION ASIDE FROM A VERY LARGE HURRICANE WOULD NOT BRING UP SUCH BIG THINGS NATURALLY. BUT IT DOES AND IT'S NOT IDEAL, IT'S NOT IDEAL FOR WILDLIFE.
THEY DO WORK VERY CLOSELY. I KNOW, BECAUSE I'VE DONE IT ON BEACH PATROL ON TURTLE NEST PATROL THEY DO WORK VERY CLOSELY. WE HAVE, IF WE'RE ON, IF WE'RE ON TURTLE PATROL DURING DREDGING WE HAVE TO GET UP AT THE CRACK OF, BEFORE DAWN. BEFORE SUNRISE, BECAUSE WE HAVE TO FIND ALL THE TURTLE CRAWLS BEFORE THE DREDGING CAN BEGIN. SO THAT TURTLE NEST CAN BE MOVED. THAT'S NOT THE CASE FOR THE KINGS BAY PROJECT THAT HAPPENS IN, THAT'S HAPPENING VERY SOON AT THE NORTH END BECAUSE THAT WILL BE BEFORE THE TURTLE NESTING. BUT FOR THE SUMMER PROJECT THAT WILL GO DOWN TOWARD SADLER THEY'RE GOING TO WORK VERY CLOSELY WITH THE AMELIA ISLAND TURTLE WATCH.
>> AND HAVE FOR YEARS. >> AND HAVE FOR YEARS. YEAH,.
>> THANK YOU. >> I WAS ABLE TO SPEAK TO SOMEONE WHO OPERATING IN THIS SPACE. THE CONTRACTOR, I CAN TELL YOU EXCAVATORS ARE GOING TO START BEING USED ALL THE TIME. EVERY TIME. I JUST WANTED TO ADD THAT'S A 30,000 VIEW OF THINGS. JUST TO PUT IT OUT THERE. THIS WON'T BE THE LAST TIME THAT AN EXCAVATOR IS USED. IT WILL BE USED.
>> FROM NOW ON. >> EVERY SINGLE TIME BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT THE CORP. IS GOING TO START WRITING INTO THEIR,
[10. CITY ATTORNEY REPORTS]
THEIR SPECS JUST WANTED TO ADD THAT.>> CITY ATTORNEY COMMENTS. >> BASED UPON YOUR DISCUSSION AT THE WORKSHOP WE HAVE LOTS OF WORK TO DO AND SO, IN THE LEGAL DEPARTMENT AS MOST OF YOU KNOW WE HAVE OUR PARALEGAL AND GRANTS LEGISLATIVE AFFAIRS PERSON. ALL THREE OF US WILL BE HERE TO SERVE YOU AND MAKE SURE WE'RE PREPARED FOR ALL THE INFORMATION YOU NEED. AS ALWAYS FEEL FREE TO REACH OUT IF YOU WISH TO MEET OR IF WE HAVE OBVIOUSLY OUR MEETINGS WITH CHARTER OFFICERS. IF YOU HAVE ANYTHING WITH MYSELF AND MY STAFF IS HERE TO SERVE, THANK YOU.
>> VICE MAYOR AYSCUE. >> OKAY. QUICK ON THE DRAW.
>> MORE EXPERIENCED. >> SO WHEN WE HAVE INDIVIDUALS THAT COME UP AND SPEAK WITH ITEMS NOT ON THE AGENDA. WE'LL OFTEN SEE PEOPLE LIKE MR. PAUL LAWRY WILL COME UP AND SPEAK TWO OR THREE THINGS IN HIS ALLOTTED TIME. THEY WILL SAY THANKS, THE CONDENSED ALL OF WHAT THEY WANT TO SAY IN A THREE MINUTE TIME FRAME. WE HAD SOMEBODY TODAY SPEAK TWICE. I WANT TO GET CLARIFICATION, ARE WE GOING TO ALLOW COMMENTS THAT AREN'T ON THE AGENDA FOR INDIVIDUALS TO BE ABLE TO SPLIT THAT UP AND TALK ABOUT DIFFERENT THINGS THAT AREN'T ON THE AGENDA. OR MAKE THEM CONDENSE IT INTO THREE MINUTES.
>> I WILL ACCEPT THE RESPONSIBILITY FOR THAT. HE HAD ONE ITEM FOR PUBLIC COMMENT AND ONE FOR 6.1. I DIDN'T SEE WHERE THEY WOULD COME IN THE CONSENT. IN MY OPINION AND EXPERIENCE IT WOULD BE ONE CHIEF SUBMISSION FOR LINE ITEM
ON THE AGENDA. >> I WASN'T BLAMING ANYBODY. I
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JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY. >> SO THAT EVERYBODY IN THE
PUBLIC CAN UNDERSTAND. >> SO THAT EVERYBODY IN THE PUBLIC UNDERSTANDS WHEN YOU COME UP IT'S THREE MINUTES.
>> THAT'S IT. >> GET YOUR THOUGHTS FOR ALL THREE MINUTES OR IF IT'S GOING TO BE THE OTHER WAY. I'M FINE WITH THAT TOO. IF WE'RE GOING TO ALLOW MULTIPLE SUBJECTS. I JUST WANTED TO, I WANTED TO BE CLEAR TO THE PUBLIC SO THEY
UNDERSTAND. >> THANK YOU VICE MAYOR.
>> EACH PERSON GETS THREE MINUTES ON ANY NUMBER OF TOPICS THAT THEY WISH TO BRING UP AT ONE MEETING, ITEMS NOT ON THE AGENDA. THAT'S WHAT OUR RULES SAY. BUT I AM GOING TO IN FACT.
I WAS JUST SPEAKING TO MRS. CAMPBELLS ABOUT THE RULES OF PROCEDURE: THAT'S ON OUR RULES AND I HAVEN'T HEARD ANYTHING DIFFERENT. UNLESS AS YOU KNOW, FOR YEARS WE'VE ADDRESSED THOSE RULES QUITE A FEW TIMES. RIGHT NOW THERE ARE NO CHANGES
>> QUESTIONS. >>MY QUESTION TO YOU. I WILL ASK YOU ABOUT THE, THE POINT ABOUT BEING ADJOINED WITH THE
>> WHERE DO WE STAND WITH THAT. >> I REACHED OUT TO THE CITY.
FIRST OF ALL THE CITY DIDN'T JUMP IN. I WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT MRS. CHRISTIN KNOWS. I WANT TO MAKE SURE THE PEOPLE KNOW THAT THE CITY DIDN'T AGREE TO SUE. APPROVE THE PRELIMINARY PLATFORM AND I AS PART OF MY DUTY IN ADVOCATING AND REPRESENTING THAT CITY COMMISSION AS I REPRESENT THIS CITY COMMISSION, DEFENDED THE CITY WHEN THAT CITY WAS THE CITY NAMED WHEN THERE'S AN APPEAL OR NOT IS NEVER REMOVED FROM THAT APPEAL. THE THAT THE INSURANCE PAYS AND THEY FILE THE NOTICE OF JOINTNER WHEN THEY FILED THE APPEAL. THE NOTICE OF JOINTER DOES SAY BASICALLY YES WHATEVER THEY SAY. I HAVE HAD OUTSIDE COUNCIL. THEY HAVE NOT GOTTEN OUTSIDE TO ME YET. DO RESEARCH ON WHETHER THERE'S EVEN AN OPTION TO WITHDRAWAL. WE CAN FILE AND SAY, WE WITHDRAWAL OUR MOTION FOR JOINTER. BUT THERE'S REALLY NO MECHANISM AT THIS POINT FOR CHAIN, WE DIDN'T FILE A BRIEF. WE CAN'T FILE A BRIEF OR WE HAVEN'T MADE ANY ARGUMENTS REALLY. BUT I DID, I DID TASK OUTSIDE COUNCIL WITH DOING RESEARCH ON ALL THAT WE CAN DO. IF THE CITY COMMISSION DECIDED THAT IT WAS CHANGING THAT YOU WANTED TO CHANGE THE CITY'S POSITION ON THAT APPEAL. OR IN THE CASE IN GENERAL. AND I HAVE THEY HAVEN'T GOTTEN BACK TO ME YET. BUT I WILL REPORT BACK TO YOU AS SOON AS THEY DO. THE APPEAL WAS FILED OVER A YEAR AGO. AND SO, THE COURT, I MEAN, WE SAY ANYTHING DAY NOW, BUT THIS IS A VERY LONG TIME FOR THE COURT OF APPEALS TO TAKE TO RENDER ITS DECISION. SO I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT MEANS, BUT I CAN ONLY ASSUME IT'S NOT GOING TO BE ANOTHER YEAR. THAT WOULD BE REALLY, REALLY UNUSUAL. SO, I WILL REPORT BACK TO YOU IN OUR INDIVIDUAL MEETINGS PUBLICLY IF YOU ASK ME. AND WHATEVER IT IS THAT, BUT IT'S NOT, WHATEVER THE CITY FILES IS NOT GOING TO CHANGE NECESSARILY WHAT THE APPEAL COURTS DECISION IS. AND RULE ON THE DEVELOPERS ARGUMENT MADE ON THE APPEAL. SO.
>> THANK YOU. ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS.
>> I ACTUALLY HAD THE SAME QUESTION ABOUT AND I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING. BUT I'M SAYING IT LOOKS LIKE WHERE
WE'RE FIGHTING OUR CITIZENS. >> ABSOLUTELY.
>> IN THIS PARTICULAR CASE I DON'T THINK WE SHOULD. I WOULD BE INTERESTING WHAT YOU HEAR BACK FROM THE OTHER ATTORNEYS
ON WHAT OUR OPTIONS ARE. >> THE ONLY THING I CAN SAY, I AM DOING WHAT THE CITY COMMISSION TASKED ME WITH DOING. I DON'T OPERATE ON MY OWN AS A BUREAUCRAT. THE LAST CITY COMMISSION GAVE ME MY PORCHING -- ME MY MARCHING ORDERS AND I REPRESENTED TO THE BEST OF MY ABILITY. I WILL GET BACK TO YOU AS SOON AS I CAN. AND LOOK AT WHAT ALL WE CAN DO.
[11. CITY CLERK REPORTS]
THEY'RE LOOKING AT ALL OF THAT.>> THANK YOU. >> ANY MORE QUESTIONS. SEEING
NONE. ON TO CITY CLERK REPORT. >> ONLY TO WELCOME MRS. CAMPBELL. LOOK FORWARD TO YOU RETURNING TOMORROW. AFTER A LATE NIGHT TONIGHT. WE LOOK FORWARD TO GETTING ON BOARDED AND SUPPORTING YOU IN YOUR ROLE HERE. THANK YOU.
[12. MAYOR/COMMISSIONER COMMENTS]
[02:50:02]
>> THANK YOU. AND ON TO MAYOR AND COMMISSIONER COMMENTS. WE WILL START DOWN THE LINE. COMMISSIONER POYNTER.
>> JUST WELCOME TO THE NEW CITY MANAGER. AND LOOK FORWARD TO
JUST KEEP ON KEEPING. >> COMMISSIONER MINSHEW.
>> ALSO WANT TO WELCOME IN MRS. CAMPBELL. THIS CITY DESERVES A REALLY GREAT CITY MANAGER AND AT THIS POINT THAT'S YOU. SO WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT HAPPENS. I ALSO WANT TO THANK THE CITY STAFF WHO HAVE TAKEN TIME OVER THE LAST TWO DAYS TO MEET WITH ME. ON A VERY TIGHTLY PACKED SCHEDULE WHICH I WAS NOT ABLE TO FOLLOW. AND THANK YOU TO ALL OF THE CITY STAFF AND THE POLICE DEPARTMENT AND THE FIRE DEPARTMENT. AND ALL THE MANAGERS AND INDIVIDUALS WHO TOOK TIME TO EXPLAIN TO ME WHAT THEY DO. AND SOMETIMES EVEN SHOWED ME WHAT THEY DID. I REALLY APPRECIATED THAT. IT WAS VERY INFORMATIONAL AND GOOD.
SO. THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU COMMISSIONER
MINSHEW. COMMISSIONER TUTEN. >> I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO WELCOME SARAH CAMPBELL. I ECHO WHAT GENECE SAID. TO HELP YOU MAKE YOU AS SUCCESSFUL AS POSSIBLE AND HELP YOU STAY CONNECTED WITH WHAT THE CITIZENS WANT. I ACTUALLY LOVED RECEIVING OVER 40 E-MAILS ABOUT THE SHARKS TEETH. BECAUSE IT MEANT SO MANY PEOPLE CARED. I THINK ONE OF THE REASONS THIS CITY IS SO GREAT IS SO MANY PEOPLE ARE ACTIVELY INVOLVED IN WHAT'S HAPPENING. REALLY CARE AND TRY TO MAKE THINGS BETTER. SO, THAT WAS EXCITING. HOPEFULLY I ANSWERED THEM ALL. I MIGHT HAVE, I DON'T THINK I MISSED ANY. I DO ALSO ONE CITIZEN E-MAILED ME, THEY WANTED ME TO HELP PUBLICLY THANK OUR BUILDING DIRECTOR JIMMY PARR AND ANGIE LESTER AND O'REILLY.
THEY HAD A PROPERTY HERE FOR 30 YEARS AND THEY JUST WANT TO THANK THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT FOR SUPERHELPFUL WITH PERMITTING AND SCHEDULING AND JUST HOW WELL IT ALL WENT. AND I ANSWERED THE GENTLEMAN BACK, THAT I AGREE. ALL THE INTERACTIONS I'VE HAD WITH CITY STAFF HAVE BEEN REALLY
GREAT SO I THINK WE'RE LUCKY. >> THANK YOU COMMISSIONER
TUTEN. VICE MAYOR AYSCUE. >> I ALSO ECHO THE WELCOME FOR
MRS. CAMPBELL. >> I WOULD LIKE TO EXTEND CONDOLENCES TO MR. JOHNNY MYER FOR THE RECENT PASSING OF HIS DEAR MOTHER. SHE WAS A FORCE TO BE RECONNED WITH AND SHE WILL BE MISSED BY MANY. CONGRATULATIONS TO MAYOR AND HIS WIFE FOR THEIR DAUGHTER. MOTHER AND DAUGHTER ARE HAPPY AND HEALTHY. AND WE HAVE AMERICA'S YOUTH LIGHTED CHRISTMAS PARADE THIS COMING WEEKEND. ALL ARE WELCOMED TO ATTEND AT 6:00 P.M. FROM CENTRAL PARK JUST LIKE THE REGULAR SHRIMP FEST ROUT. WITH THAT, I WISH YOU ALL A HAPPY
* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.