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I WOULD LIKE TO CALL THE CITY COMMISSION WORKSHOP FOR FERNANDINA BEACH TO ORDER. PLEASE WRITE -- RISE FOR THE
PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE. >> PLEASE BE SEATED. UNLIKE A LOT OF WORKSHOPS YOU'VE SEEN RAY ARE ACTUALLY LOOKING AT -- THANK YOU. CITY CLERK, PLEASE CALL THE ROLL.
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TRADITIONAL WORKSHOP WE ACTUALLY DON'T HAVE A SPECIFIC TOPIC SO I WOULD LIKE TO SEE IF ANY OF MY FELLOW COMMISSIONERS WOULD LIKE TO BRING UP ANYTHING OF CONCERN THAT SHOULD MAKE IT EITHER TO THIS WORKSHOP DISCUSSION OR A FUTUREWORKSHOP. >> I THINK WE ALL HAVE A LIST.
>> WOULD LIKE TO START, COMMISSIONER MINSHEW?
>> SURE. I WOULD LIKE TO SEE A WORKSHOP ON THE IMPACT FEES AND THE NEW IMPACT FEE STUDY. BECAUSE I THINK THERE ARE SOME ADJUSTMENTS THAT NEED TO BE MADE AND I THINK IT IS SOMETHING THE WHOLE COMMUNITY IS INTERESTED IN. I WANT US TO UNDERSTAND HOW WE ARE GOING TO DO WHAT IMPACT WE LOOK LIKE
GOING FORWARD. >> OKAY. IF I AM NOT MISTAKEN, COMMISSIONER POYNTER, YOU MENTIONED SOMETHING SIMILAR?
>> WE HAVE OUR JANUARY 7TH. >>
>> I WAS GOING TO ADD TO THAT, A COUPLE MONTHS AGO I RECEIVED AN EMAIL -- AND WE ARE TALKING ABOUT -- BUT NOT IMPACT FEES.
IMPACT FEES WERE IF YOUR HOUSE SITS LONGER FOR I THINK 60 MONTHS WE WERE ABLE TO CHARGE ANOTHER IMPACT FEE OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. SOMETHING THAT IS ON THE CODE. I THINK IT IS AGAINST THE STATE STATUTE. I WOULD LIKE TO TALK ABOUT THAT IF WE CAN.
IT IS LEFT OVER FROM THE REASON THAT WE DID THE STUDY TO BEGIN WITH BECAUSE THE IMPACT FEES WE WERE CHARGING WERE LEGAL AND THAT IS WHY THEY WENT TO CAPACITY. FOR WATER AND WASTEWATER, NOT STORMWATER. IF WE ARE GOING TO TALK ABOUT THAT LET'S GET THE ONES THAT ARE STILL ILLEGAL OFF THE BOOKS.
>> I AM TALKING ABOUT PARKS AND RACKS, PUBLIC SAFETY, THE FIRE, THE IMPACT FEES ON NEW CONSTRUCTION. THE NONUTILITY
IMPACT FEES. >> IS A STUDY COMING FOR THAT, ISN'T THERE? IT SOUNDS LIKE POTENTIALLY WE COULD DIVIDE THE WORKSHOP INTO TWO SECTIONS,
>> CAPACITY FEES JANUARY? >> YES. DO I HEAR ANOTHER
DISCUSSION ITEM? >> I WOULD LIKE TO TALK ABOUT THE STORMWATER MASTER PLAN. THAT I THINK IS PROBABLY GOING TO BE DEVELOPED THIS YEAR. FOR US TO HAVE SOME UNDERSTANDING WHAT IS GOING ON WITH IT, WHAT THE CHANGES ARE, TIME FRAMES, THINGS LIKE THAT. PARTICULARLY IN LIGHT OF THE STORMWATER PROBLEMS THAT WE HAD DURING THE LAST COUPLE OF MONTHS.
>> --, WHICH LIKE TO COME UP AND SPEAK TO WHAT THOSE PLANS ON THE TIMELINE OF THAT WILL LOOK LIKE?
>> ABSOLUTELY. THANK YOU. UTILITY INSTRUCTOR. THAT WE ARE SCHEDULED TO UPDATE THE STORMWATER MASTER PLAN THIS YEAR. WHERE WE ARE RIGHT NOW AS WE ARE DEVELOPING THE SCOPE OF WORK, THE APPROACH WE WOULD LIKE TO TAKE WITH THIS UPDATE TO THE STUDY. WE WERE PLANNING ON DISCUSSING THIS AT THE SESSION. WE CAN CERTAINLY WORKSHOP IT. GOING TO BE SOME OUTREACH COMPONENT TO THE WHOLE PROCESS. ONCE WE GET A CONSULTANT ON BOARD THERE WILL BE SOME COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT WITH THE WHOLE PROCESS. WHAT WE WANTED TO DISCUSS IN THE VISIONING SESSION WAS COLLABORATION WITH THE COUNTY ON UPDATING THIS DOCUMENT BECAUSE THE DRAINAGE SYSTEM FOR THE CITY AND COUNTY ARE VERY INTERTWINED AND WE'VE HAD SOME GOOD INITIAL CONVERSATIONS WITH THE COUNTY ENGINEER ABOUT
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PARTNERING WITH THE COUNTY ON THE STUDY. THEY DON'T CURRENTLY HAVE FUNDING IN THEIR BUDGET THIS FISCAL YEAR SO WE WERE GOING TO INITIALLY START TALKING TO SOME CONSULTANCY AND FIGURE OUT IS IT OKAY TO PROCEED IN PHASE AN APPROACH OF THE COUNTY OR DO WE NEED TO POSTPONE UNTIL WE LOOK AT ALL AT ONCE. SO WE WANTED TO DISCUSS IN OUR VISION SESSION AS WELL AS THE JOINT CITY COUNTY IN THE FUTURE. I THINK IT IS ABSOLUTELY A GREAT WORKSHOP TOPIC, BUT MAYBE ALITTLE FURTHER DOWN THE ROAD. >> YES. I'M NOT SET ON A SCHEDULE. IF IT IS APPROPRIATE FOR OR FIVE MONTHS DOWN THE ROAD THAT IS FINE. I JUST THINK WE NEED TO GET IT ON THE LIST.
>> ABSOLUTELY. >> I THINK THE JUMPING POINT WAS HOW MUCH WE ANALYZED WHAT HAPPENED AND WHAT GIVES US A PLACE TO MOVE FROM SO WE CAN MAKE A PLAN.
>> ROLL ALL OF THAT DATA INTO THE STUDY.
>> WOULD WE INCLUDE SOME OF THE FLOODING ISSUES IN OLD TOWN IN A STUDY LIKE THAT? INCLUDE THE ENTIRE CITY LIMITS POTENTIALLY
AND PARTNER WITH THE COUNTY? >> YES. THAT IS KIND OF WHAT WE NEED TO IN THE SCOPE OF WORK MY PLAN ON THIS WAS THE PREVIOUS STUDY IS VERY AREA SPECIFIC. IT LOOKS A VERY LOCALIZED FLOODING ISSUES AND PROVIDES A CONCEPTUAL PLAN FOR THOSE AREAS. THE WAY I WOULD LIKE TO APPROACH IT IS WE EITHER LOOK AT THE ISLAND AND DIVIDED INTO DRAINAGE BASINS. WHAT AREA FLOWS TO A PARTICULAR SPOT. ANALYZE ON THAT SCALE AND LOOK AT WHERE THOSE CAPACITY ISSUES, THOSE RESTRICTIONS ARE. TO PRIORITIZE UPGRADES. BUT WE ALSO NEED TO LOOK AT THOSE SPECIFIC AREAS THAT DON'T HAVE INFRASTRUCTURE LIKE OLD TOWN.
DO A MORE COMPREHENSIVE APPROACH THAN PIECEMEAL WE'VE DONE TO DATE. I THINK A BALANCE OF THOSE TWO APPROACHES WILL BE MOST BENEFICIAL. WHAT WE WANT TO DO IS PART OF THE PUBLIC OUTREACH AND ENGAGEMENT WITH THE COMMISSION TO MAKE SURE WE IDENTIFY ALL OF THE AREAS THAT ARE PRIORITY. OLD TOWN IS
CERTAINLY FOR THAT. >> DOES THE STORMWATER MASTER PLAN ALWAYS BY DEFAULT INCLUDE TREE CANOPY? OR DO WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE THAT IS INCLUDED? AND DO WE EVER HAVE THE FUNDING TO DO A BIG STUDY OF WHERE EXACTLY OUR CANOPY IS?
>> THE CURRENT STORMWATER MASTER PLAN DOES NOT INCLUDE ANY TREE CANOPY ANALYSIS. THAT COULD BE SOMETHING WE EXPLORE WITH CONSULTANT IF THEY HAVE ANY EXPERIENCE INCLUDING THAT IN THAT STUDY. THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WE CAN EXPLORE IN OUR CONVERSATIONS WITH THE PROPERTY APPRAISER AND -- DEPARTMENT AND WHAT INFORMATION WE CURRENTLY HAVE. JUST MAKING USE OF THE DATA WE ALREADY HAVE RATHER THAN GOING OUT AND COLLECTING MORE. THAT IS SOMETHING WE COULD LOOK INTO MORE AND HAVE THAT DISCUSSION AT THAT TIME.
>> I PRESUME WE HAVEN'T ENGAGED A CONTRACTOR?
>> WE HAVEN'T. MY PLAN IS TO LOOK AT OUR CONTRACT CONSULTANTS ON OUR LIST FOR THOSE WHO HAVE EXPERIENCE WITH THIS TYPE OF STUDY AND START DISCUSSIONS AND GET SOME PROPOSALS FROM EACH OF THOSE COMPANIES AND FIGURE OUT WHAT THEY CAN BRING TO THE TABLE, WHAT THE RECOMMENDATIONS ARE.
>> PRESUMABLY WE CAN FIND SOMEBODY WHO HAS SOME EXPERTISE IN CALCULATIONS OF HOW THE TREE CANOPY IMPACTS?
>> WE CAN CERTAINLY INCLUDE THAT AS PART OF OUR CRITERIA.
>> OKAY. THANK YOU. >> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR --? THANK YOU. MOVING RIGHT ALONG, WE HAVE TIME TO ADD A FEW MORE THINGS IF THERE ARE ANY ADDITIONAL ISSUES OF THE COMMISSION WISHES TO DISCUSS. DO I HEAR ANY FURTHER TOPICS?
>> WE ARE GOING TO TALK ABOUT THAT IN THE MEETING. DO WE WANT TO TALK ABOUT GENERAL FLOODING OR DOWNTOWN FLOODING? OR ARE WE
PUSHING THAT TOO? >> WE ALREADY PLANNED ON THE WORKSHOP FOR THAT. THAT IS ON THE SCHEDULE.
>> OKAY. I KNOW I'VE GOTTEN A LOT OF EMAILS ABOUT THE DEVELOPMENT ON 14TH, THE COMING DEVELOPMENT ON 14TH, 15TH STREET THAT WILL IMPACT AMELIA PARK. DO HAVE TIME TO TALK ABOUT THAT? DO WE WANT TO PUSH THAT? THAT IS ON HOLD.
>> WOULD LIKE TO GIVE US SOME COLOR ON THE ISSUE, PLEASE?
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>> THE PROPERTY OWNER'S AGENT HAVE AT LEAST FOR AN POSTPONEMENT. HAVEN'T WITHDRAWN THE APPLICATION, BUT THEY'VE ASKED US NOT TO CONTINUE TO PROCESS IT.
EXTENSIONS, BASICALLY. THE LAST STEP IN THAT DEVELOPMENT APPLICATION WAS THE TECHNICAL REVIEW COMMITTEE PROVIDING COMMENTS AND IN RESPONSE TO THAT IT IS MY UNDERSTANDING THE PROPERTY OWNER ASKED FOR AN EXTENSION AND THAT THY WANTED
TO WAIT. >> DOES THAT PUT EVERYTHING ON HOLD? ANY KIND OF TRAFFIC STUDY BY THE COUNTY?
>> I DON'T KNOW. -- IS HERE. SHE COULD PROBABLY
] >> GOOD EVENING. AT THIS POINT IN TIME THAT TRAFFIC STUDY IS CONTINUING WITH THE APPLICANT'S AGENT. THAT MOVES FORWARD. THEY SIMPLY REQUESTED THE CITY GIVE THEM ADDITIONAL TIME TO RESPOND TO THE COMMENTS THAT HAD BEEN ISSUED AT TRC. THAT IS WHERE WE ARE AT. THAT 30 DAYS WAS GRANTED WHICH ALLOWS THEM TO CONTINUE TO MOVE FORWARD WORKING TO THE TRAFFIC STUDY AS WELL AS SOME OTHER OUTSTANDING ISSUES AND COMMENTS.
>> HOW MANY EXTENSIONS DO WE NORMALLY GIVE AN APPLICANT BEFORE WE TOLD HIM TO WITHDRAW?
>> UNDER OUR CODE YOU CAN HAVE SIX MONTHS. ADDITIONALLY THERE ARE SOME TOLLING PROVISIONS UNDER FLORIDA LAW THAT CAN ALLOW ADDITIONAL EXTENSIONS WHEN EMERGENCY ORDERS HAVE AN ISSUE TO ADDRESS THOSE COMMENTS. BUT THEY DO NEED TO MAKE IN WRITING REQUESTS FOR EXTENSIONS EVERY 30 DAYS.
>> OKAY. >> ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS FOR
MISS GIBSON? >> I HAVE ONE SINCE SHE IS UP HERE. TALKED A LITTLE BIT YESTERDAY, CONSERVATION PROPERTY MASTER PLAN. I KNOW WE HAVE SOME STUFF TOGETHER FOR ALL OF THE DIFFERENT CONSERVATION PROPERTIES WE BROUGHT INTO THE CITY OR CHANGE THE ZONING ON, BUT I THINK IT WOULD BE WORTHWHILE IN THE NEXT FEW MONTHS TO BE ABLE TO TALK ABOUT MAYBE A PRESENTATION ABOUT THAT IS, WHAT IS OUR LONG-TERM PLANS FOR CONSERVATION LAND, IS IT GOING TO BE PASSIVE, LEAVE IT ALONE, HOW DO WE MAINTAIN IT, HOW DO WE KEEP IT TIDY, ALL OF THOSE THINGS. I WOULD LIKE TO SEE SOME CONVERSATION AROUND THAT. AND I THINK IT WOULD BE APPROPRIATE FOR WORKSHOP BECAUSE I THINK THE COMMUNITY
WOULD BE INTERESTED. >> WE WOULD WELCOME THAT
OPPORTUNITY. >> IF THAT IS NOT ALREADY CONSIDERED FOR THE FEBRUARY WORKSHOP OPPORTUNITY TO BE AT
THAT, TOO? >> A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO THERE WAS THE FRIENDS OF -- PUT TOGETHER A PROPOSAL ] FOR VARIOUS REASONS IT DID NOT MOVE FORWARD. I THINK -- AND THE CITY DESPERATELY NEEDS IT AND I WOULD LIKE US TO LOOK AT BRINGING THOSE PLANS BACK TO THE TABLE AND WORKING WITH THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT AND PERHAPS RESURRECTING THE TEAM AGAIN AND THE RESTORATION FOUNDATION TO TALK ABOUT WHAT THAT WOULD LOOK LIKE AND HOW WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO PROCEED. REALLY ON A VERY LIMITED BUDGET. BECAUSE WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO PRESELL -- IT SHOULD PRETTY MUCH PAY FOR ITSELF. BUT I THINK IT WOULD BE GREAT FOR THIS COMMISSION TO UNDERSTAND WHAT THAT WAS AND HOW WE MIGHT TAKE THAT MOVING FORWARD.
>> I AM VAGUELY FAMILIAR. THE IDEA WAS DEVELOPED AND DIDN'T COME TO FRUITION SO I WOULD LOVE TO HEAR MORE ABOUT IT.
>> I'M HAPPY TO HELP SHERRY AND DONNA SHARE ANY INFORMATION THAT I WOULD LIKE TO WERE CLOSE WITHOUT APARTMENTS ON THE PLAN
AND BRING IT FORWARD TO YOU. >> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR MISS GIBSON? THANK YOU. ANY OTHER ITEMS OF DISCUSSION THIS COMMISSION WOULD LIKE TO AT LEAST PUT A PIN IN FOR A FUTURE
>> THERE ARE SOME ITEMS ON FUTURE WORKSHOPS. I WANT TO KEEP IN MIND WHAT MIGHT BE HIGHER PRIORITY THAN OTHER ITEMS. JANUARY WE HAVE THE WATERFRONT PARK AND --
>> RIGHT. >> BY DEFAULT IS NOT INCLUDE
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>> DO I HEAR CONSENSUS TO PUT A FUTURE WORKSHOP TO DISCUSS WHAT OPPORTUNITIES WE HAVE FOR LONGER-TERM PLANNING WITH THE SEAWALL SUCH AS ON REFERENDUM AND ANY OTHER OPPORTUNITIES
>> SOUNDS LIKE IT WILL MAKE ITS WAY INTO MARCH IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN. IT MAY OR MAY NOT BE APPROPRIATE TO PICK ONE OF THE ONES WE CHOSE FOR FEBRUARY AND SWAPPED THAT FOR TIMING PURPOSES IF THAT PLEASES THE COMMISSION.
>> CONSERVATION PROPERTY MASTER PLAN TO MARCH IN PLACE OF THE
SEAWALL IN FEBRUARY. >> AS LONG AS A HEAR NO OBJECTIONS. AND DO I HEAR ANY CONSENSUS ABOUT DISCUSSION ABOUT MANAGEMENT AS FAR AS OUR GOLF COURSE? SPECIFICALLY THERE HAS BEEN MENTIONING'S IN THE PAST ABOUT GIVING THEM THE OPPORTUNITY TO MANAGE THEIR OWN FEE SCHEDULE AND TRULY RUN AN ENTERPRISE FUND. THERE'S BEEN DISCUSSION ABOUT REVENUE CONCERNS. I WONDER AND WOULD CHALLENGE IF WE HAVE SOME INFORMATION AND LET US KNOW HOW MUCH TIME YOU NEED TO DO SOMETHING LIKE THAT TO FEEL PREPARED FOR WORKSHOP OF THAT
NATURE. >> ABSOLUTELY THAT IS GREAT. I MET WITH -- TODAY ON MY GRANTOR OF THE CITY OR FORCED MARCH DEPENDING ON WHAT YOU WANT TO CALL IT. HE IS ACTUALLY IN THE PROCESS OF PUTTING TOGETHER WHAT I WOULD CONSIDER A LONG-TERM MASTER PLAN ALREADY AND HE HAS THE BASICS OF IT.
I'M EXCITED TO SEE THE WORK IS ALREADY DONE. I THINK IT IS REALLY TIMELY FOR US TO TALK ABOUT -- AND FOR HIM TO TELL US WHAT IS HIS LONG-TERM STRATEGIC VISION FOR THE GOLF COURSE AND HOW DO WE MAKE IT THE BEST MUNICIPAL GOLF COURSE THAT COULD BE WITH WHAT IS AVAILABLE . I THINK THAT WOULD BE A GREAT OPPORTUNITY. DOESN'T HAVE TO BE IN THE NEXT MONTH OR SO.
THREE OR FOUR MONTHS. >> ABSOLUTELY. I WOULD LIKE TO GIVE EVERYONE A SHADOW. PLAYED ONE OF THE WARMER SUNDAYS AND THE COURSE WAS IN THE BEST CONDITION I'VE EVER SEEN. I'VE HEARD THAT FROM NUMEROUS RESIDENTS. WE WOULD LIKE TO SEE THAT CONTINUE IN THAT DIRECTION. JOB WELL DONE. THANK YOU. LASTLY AT LEAST ON MY AGENDA AND THEN I'LL TAKE ANY OTHER SUGGESTIONS DO I HEAR CONSENSUS TO ADD ADDITIONAL DISCUSSION ABOUT ALTERNATIVE REVENUE STREAMS WHICH MAY NOT BE LIMITED TO THINGS LIKE MY FERNANDINA PROGRAM OR BEACH
>> YES. >> I THINK THAT COULD BE MARCH
OR APRIL AS WELL. >> THAT WOULD GIVE TIME TO HAVE STAFF RECOMMENDATIONS AND SOME RESEARCH. ESPECIALLY WITH THE
TECHNOLOGY. >> I KNOW WE COVERED A LOT IN A SHORT BIT. IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE WE'RE MISSING?
>> I HAVE ONE MORE THING. EVEN THOUGH I SPEND A LOT OF TIME WITH THE BUDGET I AM STILL -- IT IS STILL NOT ALWAYS CLEAR AND THIS COULD BE SOMETHING THAT NEEDS TO BE DONE ONCE WE GET A NEW COMPTROLLER IS A WORKSHOP BETTER UNDERSTANDING THE FINANCIALS AND VARIOUS FUNDS AND WHERE MONEY COMES FROM FOUR DIFFERENT KINDS OF THINGS BECAUSE NOT ONLY ARE THERE ENTERPRISE FUNDS, THERE ARE ALL SORTS OF FEE FUNDS AND DIFFERENT THINGS THAT IT IS NOT ALWAYS CLEAR TO ME WHEN WE APPROVE SOMETHING WHERE EXACTLY THAT MONEY COMES FROM. EVEN THOUGH IN THE PAPERWORK IT TELLS US THE FUND IT IS COMING FROM I STILL DON'T UNDERSTAND WHAT THAT FUND IS, YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? IF THAT IS SOMETHING WE COULD DO AT SOME POINT IN THE FUTURE I THINK IT WOULD BE HELPFUL.
>> ABSOLUTELY. OUR BUDGET WORKSHOPS CAN REALLY START TALKING -- TARGETING THAT. WE ARE LOOKING AT AN OPEN FINANCE MODULE HOPEFULLY BRING THAT ON NEXT YEAR. A USER-FRIENDLY APPROACH TO THE BUDGET. COUNTY HAS A SIMILAR PROGRAM PLACE NOW. VERY INTUITIVE. ALMOST AN AI TYPE PLATFORM AND IT WILL LOOK TO THE BUDGET TO GIVE YOU THE ANSWERS OR POINT TO THE PLACES YOU NEED TO GO SO THAT ABSOLUTELY MAKE THAT PART OF
OUR WORKSHOP. >> I AM GUESSING THAT WOULD CONSUME MORE THAN ONE WORKSHOP AND COULD EVEN BE DONE BY DEPARTMENT WERE FUND TYPE DEPENDING ON COMPLEX IT GETS,
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BUT THANK YOU. >> TO GO ALONG WITH THAT, IT WOULD BE REALLY HELPFUL TO THE COMMUNITY IF AT THE END OF THAT DAY EVERYONE HAD A GENERAL IDEA HOW THIS MONEY IS SPENT BECAUSE I THINK THERE'S A LOT OF MISCONCEPTIONS HOW MONEY IS SPENT IN THE CITY. AND I THINK -- IT IS GREAT FOR US TO FIGURE IT OUT AND LEARN IT, BUT I THINK IT IS ALSO IMPORTANT FOR THE COMMUNITY TO HAVE A BETTER UNDERSTANDING OF HOW DOLLARS AND CENTS ARE SPENT. BECAUSE
>> YES, I THINK EVERYONE COULD HAVE MORE BUILDING OFF OF HOW THE BUDGET WORKS BECAUSE NONE OF US ARE CPAS HERE. OKAY. ONE OTHER THING I WAS ALMOST REMISS TO ASK, BUT DO I HEAR A MOTION TO PERHAPS PUT A QUARTERLY WORKSHOP AND PLACING AS A TOWN HALL WHERE PERHAPS WE TAKE SOME FORMAL COMMUNITY PULL OF WHAT ISSUES ARE COMING DOWN THE PIPE THAT WOULD REQUIRE PUBLIC INPUT BEFORE MAKING IT TO A MEETING?
>> HAVE A WHATEVER IT IS -- SURVEY . I JUST THINK IT WOULD BE HELPFUL IF WE CAME UP WITH SOME TOPICS AND PUT IT OUT AND GOT SOME FEEDBACK FROM THE COMMUNITY BEFORE WE HAVE THE WORKSHOP. GET MORE OF A TEMPERATURE OF WHAT PEOPLE ARE THINKING ABOUT IN THE COMMUNITY. IF IT IS A TOPIC OF OR WHAT YOU WANT TO DO WITH THE BEACHES. BEFORE WE HAVE THAT PUT OUT A SURVEY AND GET FEEDBACK BECAUSE NOT EVERYONE CAN COME HERE AND NOT EVERYONE IS COMFORTABLE SPEAKING AT THE MIKE. SO IF WE ARE ABLE TO GET THE SURVEY AND USE IT MORE OFTEN AND GET A BETTER UNDERSTANDING OF WHERE THE COMMUNITY IS AT I THINK IT WOULD BE REALLY BENEFICIAL TO
US. >> ABSOLUTELY. I'M CURIOUS WHAT WOULD BE THE MECHANISM OF HOW THE SURVEY WOULD WORK BECAUSE I KNOW THERE ARE PROBABLY CHALLENGES AS FAR AS THE CAPTURE RATE OF WHAT YOU WILL GET. IS THAT THE ONLY AVENUE WE GAIN THAT FEEDBACK OR ASSIGN SOMETHING WE EDIFY INAUDIBLE ] HOW OFTEN HAVE WE BEEN ABLE TO USE THAT SURVEY
SUCCESSFULLY? >> WE HAVE. USE IT FOR DISCUSSION ON THE ROADS IN OLD TOWN. WE'VE HAD GOOD SUCCESS.
CAN EXPLORE OTHER AVENUES TOO.
>> I THINK WE NEED TO PICK A TOPIC AND PUT IT OUT THERE. IF WE ARE GETTING READY TO HAVE SOMETHING IN JANUARY OR FEBRUARY WE'VE ALREADY IDENTIFIED WHAT THE TOPICS ARE GOING TO BE THEN WE SHOULD PUT OUT A SURVEY BEFORE IT SO WE CAN ACCUMULATE AND GET IT BACK TO US SO WE GET AN UNDERSTANDING OF THE SURVEY WHAT PEOPLE ARE SAYING BEFORE WE HAVE THIS CONVERSATION. I THINK WOULD BE VERY HELPFUL FOR
US AND THE COMMUNITY. >> SO YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT IN TERMS OF THESE WORKSHOPS WE TALKED ABOUT SETTING UP THE WAY
SURVEY PRIOR? >> SO WE GET THE FEEDBACK AND SAY WE ARE GETTING READY TO HAVE THIS WORKSHOP, THIS IS WHAT 500 PEOPLE HAVE JUST TOLD US THROUGH THE SURVEY. THAT GIVES US A REALLY GOOD JUMPING OFF POINT, DON'T YOU THINK?
>> ABSOLUTELY. >> BUT THAT IS DIFFERENT THAN
DOING A TOWN HALL MEETING . >> IT IS. I THINK WOULD HELP DRIVE THE TOPIC OF THE TOWN HALL. BUT I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOUR POINT IS WITH THAT. I THINK THE CHALLENGE WE WILL FACE IS MAKING A VERY CONCISE SURVEY THAT STICKS TO FUNCTIONAL ITEMS ON THE ISSUE WHILE OTHER THAN GETTING BOGGED DOWN WITH 20 QUESTIONS AND HUNDREDS OF CONSTITUENTS ANSWER SO OPPOSITION OR ALL IN FAVOR CONSENSUS ON THAT ONE?
>> I THINK WE SHOULD TRY IT. >> I THINK WE CAN TRY. THE WORST THAT HAPPENS IS IT DOESN'T WORK WELL SO HE TRY SOMETHING ELSE. IT'S NOT ROCKET SCIENCE. I THINK THERE ARE A LOT OF THINGS. IF WE WERE TO DO A TOWN HALL TYPE THING, AGAIN, I THINK WE SHOULD TRY AND IF THE COMMUNITY LIKES IT AND PARTICIPATES IN IT AND IT IS A WAY FOR US TO BETTER COMMUNICATE THEN WE SHOULD CONTINUE. IF IT DOESN'T MEET THOSE GOALS THEN WE DO SOMETHING ELSE.
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>> BASED OFF OF WHAT FACEBOOK SAYS I THINK PEOPLE WOULD BE
INAUDIBLE ] >> WONDERFUL. I THINK WE'VE HAD GREAT TOPICS FOR DISCUSSION. I WANT TO BE CLEAR IF THERE ARE ANY OTHER ITEMS BEFORE WE DEFERRED THE PUBLIC COMMON ITEMS AND IF THERE ARE NO OTHER ITEMS WE WILL RECESS UNTIL THE
6:00 MEETING. >> PLEASE ASKED FOR PUBLIC,
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EVEN THOUGH WE DIDN'T VOTE AT THE MEETING.>> ABSOLUTELY. WE HAVE ONE SPEAKER THAT PUT IN A FORM, BUT IF THERE IS ANY OTHER PUBLIC, PLEASE LOT A FORM AND TO COME
UP TO THE FRONT. >> HELLO, EVERYONE. SHEILA --, 5053 INDIGO STREET. I WAS HOPING YOU ALL MIGHT, NOW YOU ARE IN PLACE, CONSIDER FORMALLY MAKING ANNUAL REVIEWS FOR THE CHARTER OFFICERS A THING. A WRITTEN REVIEW SO THAT WE CAN HAVE SOMETHING TO BUILD ON YEAR-OVER-YEAR. I THINK IT WOULD BE IMPORTANT TO HAVE SOME COACHING FROM THE HR DIRECTOR ON HOW TO SET GOALS AND PERFORM AN ANNUAL REVIEW. I THINK THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL NOT ONLY FOR OUR CHARTER OFFICERS, BUT ALSO FOR THE COMMUNITY TO HAVE SOME INSIGHT TO SOME OF THOSE ITEMS RATHER THAN JUST TO BE VERBAL SITUATION IT HAS BEEN IN THE
PAST. THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU. COME ON UP.
>> JULIE -- 501 DATE STREET. I'VE ARRIVED A LITTLE LATE SO I'M DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU TALKED ABOUT YOU WILL BE SPEAKING TO TONIGHT, BUT I WANTED TO SAY THAT THERE IS A -- TREE ON ELM STREET THAT WILL BE IMPACTED BY THE POSSIBLE ELEMENT ON THAT LOT. I'VE SPOKEN TO SEVERAL PEOPLE ABOUT THAT. I WOULD LIKE IT TO BE MOVED UP YOUR AGENDA TO TALK ABOUT WHETHER WE HAVE ANY MONEY IN THE CONSERVATION FUND WE CAN USE TO SAVE A HERITAGE TREE. WHETHER WE WANT TO DO THAT, WHAT WOULD BE THE MECHANISM TO DO THAT, HOW MUCH THE PUBLIC WOULD BE INVOLVED IN THAT, HOW MUCH THE CITY WOULD BE INVOLVED IN THAT. I THINK IT IS SOMETHING THAT IS A LITTLE TIME SENSITIVE BECAUSE THE OWNER WAS TURNED DOWN DASHES PLANS WERE TURNED DOWN BY THE BOARD OF ADJUSTMENTS LAST WEEK OR THE WEEK BEFORE. MAYBE LAST WEEK. AND IF WE WANTED TO MOVE IN THE DIRECTION OF TRYING TO PURCHASE THE PROPERTY TO SAVE THE TREE I THINK THE CLOCK IS TICKING BECAUSE HE WILL BE GOING AND PUTTING MONEY INTO NEW ARCHITECTURAL DESIGNS WHICH WILL MAKE THE PRICE OF THE PROPERTY IF WE WANTED TO GO THAT DIRECTION GO UP. SO WAITING UNTIL JANUARY I THINK
IS PROBABLY TOO LATE. >> THANK YOU. DO WE HAVE
>> WOULD BE A -- OKAY WITH TABLING THAT UNTIL THE 6:00 MEETING. DID WE HAVE ANY OTHER COMMENT? YES?
>> RICHARD DEAN, 4104 DUNE PLACE. I DON'T KNOW IF IT FITS IN TERMS OF THE WORKSHOP, BUT OBVIOUSLY A BIG ISSUE OUT THERE IN THE COMMUNITY IS THE -- DECISION, HOW THAT WILL ROLLOUT. MY SUGGESTION IS OBVIOUSLY A HAVE TO WAIT UNTIL -- FORMALLY SUBMIT SOMETHING. I UNDERSTAND ALL THAT. BUT WHEN THE CITY DECIDES WHAT IT WILL DO WITHOUT TO DROP THAT ON THE COMMUNITY, YOU KNOW HOW INTENSELY PEOPLE FEEL ABOUT IT.
IT IS PRETTY STRONG. JUST THINK ABOUT HOW TO MANAGE THE CONVERSATION ABOUT THE CITY'S RESPONSE AGAINST THE PUBLIC.
YOU HAVE TO HAVE A GAME PLAN FOR YOUR ROLLOUT AND YOUR MESSAGING TO EXPLAIN WHAT THE CITY IS DOING, WHAT THE NEXT STEPS ARE, WHAT THE CONSEQUENCES. I THINK REALLY GIVE THAT A LOT OF THOUGHT. BECAUSE YOU ARE DOING A GOOD JOB ENGAGING THE PUBLIC, MOVING THE FORM, HAVING TOWN HALL MEETINGS. AND IF THAT ONE LANDS LIKE A BRICK ON THE COMMUNITY I
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THINK RELATIONSHIPS WILL SUFFER. WE ALL WANT A BETTER RELATIONSHIP SO THINK ABOUT THAT ROLLOUT. THANK YOU.>> THANK YOU. I SAW ANOTHER FORM. ALL RIGHT. ANY ADDITIONAL PUBLIC COMMENT FOR ITEMS FOR THIS WORKSHOP TIME? MISS
>> OKAY. MARGARET KIRKLAND 1377 PLANTATION POINTE DRIVE.
SPEAKING ON BEHALF OF -- AS ALWAYS. I AM SO THRILLED WE ARE TALKING ABOUT FLOODING. NOT BECAUSE WE HAVE FLOODING, BUT BECAUSE IT IS A SERIOUS PROBLEM WE NEED TO BE GETTING TWO. FOR THE PAST YEAR WE HAVE THREE CIVIL ENGINEERS AND FOR THE PAST YEAR WE'VE BEEN MEETING WITH ANDRE AND KATIE P AND THE COUNTY AND LOOKING AT ISSUES. WE STARTED OFF LOOKING AT ISSUES MID-ISLAND AND GRADUALLY WE HAVE LEARNED THAT THERE ARE FLOODING ISSUES ALL OVER THE ISLAND. MID-ISLAND, DOWNTOWN, OLD TOWN, FOURTH STREET, A LOT OF DIFFERENT ISSUES. SO IT IS REALLY IMPORTANT THAT WE LOOK AT IT. I WAS THRILLED WITH WHAT ANDRE WAS SAYING TONIGHT. WHAT WE HAVE TO LOOK FORWARD TO IS A LOT MORE INTENSE RAINFALL BECAUSE OF ALL OF THE MOISTURE IN THE ATMOSPHERE. LIKE WE HAD EARLIER THIS FALL. SO WE REALLY NEED TO BE PREPARED FOR THAT. IN ADDITION TO SEA LEVEL WISE AND ALL THE OTHER STUFF. SO THAT IS REALLY IMPORTANT. WE HAVE A FEW RECOMMENDATIONS. ONE IS A TOP-DOWN TOP-LEVEL PLAN .
A SYSTEMIC PLAN. NOT JUST LOOKING THAT PARCEL BY PARCEL.
BECAUSE THAT IS A PROBLEM. THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT ANDRE WAS TALKING ABOUT TOO. DOING THAT I AND GETTING CONSULTANTS IN. IN ADDITION TO GETTING CONSULTANTS IN I AM WONDERING WHETHER ANDRE NEEDS MORE HELP, NEEDS A LARGER DEPARTMENT. I KNOW THEY ARE EXPANDING IN THE COUNTY AND I WOULD LIKE FOR THEM TO EXPAND EVEN FURTHER THAN THEY ARE BECAUSE WE NEED TO GET A REALLY GOOD UNDERSTANDING OF THIS AND TO APPLY WHATEVER SOLUTIONS ARE STRATEGIES WE ARE GOING TO APPLY. SOON. THERE ARE SOME THINGS WE CAN TALK ABOUT LATER. ADJUSTMENTS THAT COULD BE MADE ON AN TEMPORARY BASIS WHILE WE ARE LEARNING ABOUT THIS LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE. WHAT WE HAVE SEEN IS WE HAVE ENTIRELY -- DEVELOPED ENTIRELY TOO MUCH IMPERVIOUS SURFACE. ALL YOU HAVE TO DO IS LOOK AT THE COUNTY MAPS FROM DIFFERENT PERIODS OF TIME OVER 10 YEARS SPANS AND YOU SEE WHAT HAS HAPPENED WITH IMPERVIOUS SURFACE ON THE ISLAND. YOU SEE WHAT HAS HAPPENED TO THE TREE CANOPY WHICH WAS RESPONSIBLE FOR STORMWATER PROCESSING UP UNTIL THE TIME WE REMOVED THE TREES. SO NOW WE HAVE SOME TREES, WE HAVE MOSQUITO DITCHES, THAT IS NOT GOING TO CUT IT IN THE FUTURE. SO WE
REALLY NEED TO FOCUS ON THAT. >>
>> LAND CONSERVATION. JULIE MENTIONED A SMALL LOT WITH A MASSIVE TREE IN IT. SOME OF THESE LOTS ARE REALLY TOO SMALL
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FOR DEVELOPING THE LARGE HOUSES PEOPLE WANT NOW. THAT WOULD BE A GREAT IDEA FOR CONSERVATION. THAT IS IT. THANK YOU.>> THANK YOU. I BELIEVE WE HAVE A FEW MORE SPEAKERS THAT WILL COME FORWARD SINCE WE HAVE ADDITIONAL TIME. DO WE WANT TO TAKE THE PUBLIC COMMENT FOR THOSE WHO WANTED TO SPEAK ABOUT THE EXTRACTOR? ANY OTHER PUBLIC COMMENT BEFORE WE ADJOURN THIS WORKSHOP?
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