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>> GOOD AFTERNOON. THE GOLF COURSE ADVISORY BOARD, REGULAR MEETING OF NOVEMBER 26TH, 2024 AT THE CITY HALL COMMISSION CHAMBERS IS CALLED TO ORDER.
ITEM 2, MADAM, PLEASE CALL THE ROLL CALL.
>> CAN WE STAND NOW FOR THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE? OF ALLEGIANCE] ITEM 4 IS APPROVAL OF MINUTES.
[4. APPROVAL OF MINUTES]
THE MINUTES ARE BEEN LISTED.>> I'LL PAUSE THE MEETING MOMENTARILY.
>> LET THE RECORD SHOW THAT MR. CORBETT IS NOW IN ATTENDANCE.
>> TOUGH TRAFFIC AROUND HERE THESE DAYS. [LAUGHTER]
>> ITEM 5. PUBLIC COMMENT REGARDING ITEMS NOT ON THE AGENDA.
[5. PUBLIC COMMENT REGARDING ITMES NOT ON THE AGENDA]
HAVE ONE REQUEST TO SPEAK FORM FROM MR. JOHN GOLD?>> WOULD YOU PLEASE STICK THE PODIUM, SIR, ADDRESS THIS.
>> PERFECT. I'LL KEEP THIS SOMEWHAT SHORT AND SWEET.
I WAS HOPEFUL. OBVIOUSLY, MR. BIGGERS, I PRESUME.
>> EVEN THOUGH I HAVE, COULD YOU GIVE YOUR FULL NAME AND ADDRESS?
>> ABSOLUTELY. JOHN THOMAS GOLD 1612 BROOM STREET FROM FERNANDINA BEACH, FLORIDA.
YOU MIGHT RECOGNIZE ME FROM LAST YEAR.
I'VE BEEN PRETTY STRONGLY ADVOCATING FOR SOME TYPE OF DISC GOLF TO BE INTRODUCED INTO THE CITY AREA.
IN THE PAST, I WAS SOMEWHAT FORCED INTO A SITUATION THAT WASN'T OBVIOUSLY WORKING FOR US, AND I'M CURRENTLY HOPING TO DO A SOFT PUSH TO INTRODUCE THE POSSIBILITY BY HOPEFULLY HAVING A DISC TOURNAMENT HOSTED HERE AT OUR LOCAL GOLF COURSE.
JACKSONVILLE HAS BECOME A HOTBED FOR THE SPORT.
JUST IN THIS PAST MONTH, THEY HAD HOSTED AN AMATEUR FOLLOWED BY A PRO WEEKEND WHERE THEY HAD OVER 300 PLAYERS PLAYING IN A PDA SANCTION EVENT OVER AT THEIR COURSES IN JACKSONVILLE.
COURSES WHEN SET UP ON GOLF COURSES ARE VERY UNINTRUSIVE TO THE ACTUAL COURSE ITSELF, AND OUR COURSE VERY MUCH FAVORS THAT POSSIBILITY.
THERE'S A LOT OF AREA OFF THE SIDE FOR POSSIBLE BASKET PLACEMENTS.
AGAIN, THIS IS ONLY TO POSSIBLY HOST A TOURNAMENT FOR JUST A SINGLE WEEKEND, MAYBE JUST A ONE DAY EVENT JUST TO INTRODUCE AND SHOW THE POPULARITY THAT IS ACTUALLY SURROUNDING THE SPORT HERE LOCALLY IN THE JACKSONVILLE AREA, WHICH THROUGH THE SUPPORT OF THE TOURNAMENT DIRECTOR FROM THE JACKSONVILLE OPEN, AND THE OWNER OF THE POPULAR DISC GOLF SHOP OVER IN JACKSONVILLE, PAR ON DISK.
MR. THOMAS EDEN. THEY ARE BOTH WILLING TO LEND AS MUCH SUPPORT AND HELP AS POSSIBLE TO HELP TO ORCHESTRATE A PDGA SANCTION EVENT, WHICH IS THE NATIONALLY RECOGNIZED ORGANIZATION THAT RUNS THESE TOURNAMENTS AROUND THE NATION, AND THEY KEEP A VERY STRICT RULE SET.
I KNOW IN THE PAST, DISC GOLF HAS HAD A VERY UNATTRACTIVE VIEW FROM THE OUTSIDE LOOKING IN AS FAR AS THE PEOPLE WHO PARTICIPATE IN IT, BUT PDGA SANCTIONED EVENTS ARE AGAIN, VERY STRICT IN THEIR RULES.
THEY DON'T ALLOW ALCOHOL OR DRUGS OF ANY SORT, AND BOTH CAN EXPEL PLAYERS FROM SET EVENTS.
AGAIN, THIS IS JUST TO INQUIRE IF THERE'S A POSSIBILITY OF GAINING SUPPORT FROM NOT ONLY THE BOARD, BUT ALSO FROM MR. BIGGERS AND THE POSSIBILITY OF THIS EVENT HAPPENING AT ANY POINT IN TIME, WHAT YOU MIGHT DEEM APPROPRIATE.
WE'RE VERY FLEXIBLE CURRENTLY, AND AS FAR AS WHAT MIGHT BE POSSIBLE.
WITH THAT, I'LL LEAVE THAT TO RESPONSES AND HAVE A SEAT.
>> YOU HAVE QUESTIONS PLEASE. YES. SORRY. PLEASE.
>> WHAT'S INVOLVED IN SETTING UP FOR.
>> FOR THE TOURNAMENT, THERE'S PORTABLE VERSIONS OF THE BASKETS.
THERE'S ALSO PERMANENT. WE WOULD NOT USE PERMANENT AT THIS POINT IN TIME.
PORTABLE BASKETS ARE JUST SIMPLY BROUGHT OUT ON THE COURSE AND LOCATED IN AND I'VE ALREADY ACTUALLY DESIGNED THE COURSE WITH HELP
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FROM A COUPLE OF GUYS THROUGH GOOGLE MAPPING AND WHATNOT, AS FAR AS GETTING BASKETS COMPLETELY OUT OF PLAY, BUT IT'S SIMPLY SETTING THEM UP FOR A WEEKEND AND TAKING THEM AWAY WHEN THEY'RE DONE.>> HOW MANY HOLES DO THEY PLAY?
>> USUALLY IT'S 18. SOMETIMES, THE JACKSON WILL OPEN AT THE AUSTIN COURSE IT WAS A 24 HOLE COURSE, BUT IT JUST DEPENDS ON WHAT IT'S TYPICALLY AN 18 HOLE EVENT.
>> TYPICALLY, WHAT LENGTH OF HOLES DO YOU PLAY?
>> JUST FOR REFERENCE, WE HAVE THE COURSE HERE AT OUR HIGH SCHOOL AND THE ONE AT JOURNEY CHURCH.
OUR COURSE HERE AT THE HIGH SCHOOL WOULD BE LIKE INTO A PITCHON PUT UP NORTH.
THE ONE AT JOURNEY CHURCH IS LIKE A PAR THREE COURSE, IF YOU WILL.
THEY GET ANYWHERE FROM 200-1200 FEET ON THE TOUR.
WE'RE TALKING PAR 3, 4 AND 5, JUST LIKE A NORMAL GOLF COURSE IS SET UP.
THE RULES ARE ALMOST IDENTICAL.
IT'S VERY SIMILAR AS FAR AS ETIQUETTE GOES, VERY RESPECTFUL TO THE COURSE AND SURROUNDING AREAS AND STUFF LIKE THAT.
BUT AGAIN, TO ANSWER THAT QUESTION, 2-1,200 FEET, PROBABLY WOULD BE THE RANGE OF HOLES ON THE TOUR CURRENTLY.
>> [INAUDIBLE] HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
>> GO AHEAD. NONE LET YOU GO AND THEN I'LL GO.
>> YOU WOULD ONLY NEED MAYBE NINE HOLES TO PLAY?
>> THAT'S THE BEAUTY OF OUR CITY GOLF COURSE IS THE WAY IT'S STRUCTURED THAT WE COULD EASILY TAKE ADVANTAGE OF ONLY NINE HOLES FOR A WEEKEND AND ONLY HALF A DAY ON EACH DAY, POSSIBLY, MAYBE JUST ONE FULL DAY.
>> THAT WOULD BE [OVERLAPPING]
>> INTEREST FEE FOR EACH PLAYER?
>> THIS EVENT THAT I ACTUALLY PLAYED IN THE EVENT IN THE AMATEUR WEEKEND A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO.
IT COST ME $109 TO PLAY FOR THE WEEKEND.
THAT WAS A TWO DAY EVENT. THAT OBVIOUSLY WAS ON A LOCAL PUBLIC PARK.
I WOULD IMAGINE THAT THERE'S A TON OF DIRECTOR THAT TOOK A PORTION OF THE ENTRY FEES THAT WE WOULD OBVIOUSLY ASSOCIATE TOWARDS THE GOLF COURSE TO HELP COVER THE RENTAL OF THE COURSE FOR THE WEEKEND.
THAT AGAIN WOULD BE UP TO THE COURSE, WHAT THEY'RE WILLING TO NEGOTIATE PER PLAYER.
COURSES THAT ARE STRUCTURED ON GOLF COURSES OUT WEST, WHICH IS BECOMING VERY POPULAR.
THEY DO ALLOW GOLF CART RENTAL FOR THE PLAYERS WHO ARE PLAYING DISC GOLF ON TOP OF THE FEE TO PLAY.
THAT OBVIOUSLY INCREASES THE REVENUE TO THE COURSE, 20-$30 FOR CAR RENTAL, WHICH PEOPLE SOMETIMES PAY.
BUT FOR THESE EVENTS, IT'S STRICTLY WALKING.
>> FIRST OF ALL, ARE YOU STILL USING THE HIGH SCHOOL?
>> EVERY SUNDAY MORNING, WE CAN'T PLAY DURING THE WEEK BECAUSE OF SCHOOL HOURS, IT'S CLOSED.
WE CAN'T ACCESS THE COURSE DURING SCHOOL TIME, WHICH PREVENTS A LOT OF US.
THE MAJORITY OF OUR GROUP, ESPECIALLY RIGHT NOW WITH THE DAY LIGHT.
>> HOW MANY PEOPLE DO YOU ANTICIPATE IF WE GAVE YOU THE COURSE FOR HOW MANY PEOPLE DO YOU ANTICIPATE COMING?
>> AS I SAID, SO THE EVENT IN JACKSONVILLE, THEY STRUCTURED IT AT 160 PLAYERS.
SHOTGUN STARTED ACROSS THE ENTIRE 18 HOLE COURSE.
THAT OBVIOUSLY REVENUE WOULD DEPEND COMPLETELY ON AGREEMENTS AND THE STRUCTURE THEREOF.
>> THAT WOULD BE ENTIRELY UP TO THE COURSE AND WHAT THEY'RE WILLING TO NEGOTIATE WITH SATURDAY OR SUNDAY, FRIDAY, EVEN, IF IF NEED BE, WHATEVER'S OBVIOUSLY EVEN A MONDAY COULD BE DOABLE.
WITH ENOUGH ADVANCE NOTICE, WE COULD GET THE PARTICIPATION.
>> WHAT WOULD BE THE LEAD TIME AS FAR AS ORGANIZING IT, AS FAR AS SAY YOU GOT THE LIKE, HOW FAR IN ADVANCE?
>> WELL, THE BEAUTY OF THE STRUCTURE THAT'S ALREADY SET IN PLACE AND MY RELATIONSHIP WITH THE GUYS IN JACKSONVILLE IS IT'S A VERY CUT AND PASTE TYPE OF EVENT.
ONCE WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO PUT BASKETS WHERE WE WANT TO, BUILDING THE EVENT WE COULD GAIN INTEREST EASILY AND PROBABLY 3-4 MONTHS.
GIVEN MORE TIME THAN THAT, IT COULD REALLY, WHAT HAPPENS IN DOWN SOUTH FLORIDA, THESE EVENTS GET SO BIG THAT THEY HAVE TO STRETCH THEM OVER TWO WEEKENDS.
THEN YOU DEVELOP A 300 PLAYER, LIKE WE HAD FOR THE AMATEUR AND THE PRO PORTION OF EACH WEEKEND.
YOU JUST HAVE THAT MUCH MORE INTEREST IN THE EVENT.
YOU JUST HAVE TO GROW BECAUSE YOU CAN'T OBVIOUSLY MAINTAIN THAT MANY PLAYERS ON THE COURSE AT ONE TIME.
JUST LIKE GOLF. IT'S STRUCTURED EXACTLY LIKE GOLF.
>> JUST FOR REFERENCE, I MYSELF, I AM A FORMER TEACHING PRO, GREW UP PLAYING GOLF HERE LOCALLY, BORN AND RAISED, STILL MAINTAIN A THREE HANDICAP ON THE BALL GOLF COURSE AND DEVELOPED A LOVE FOR DISC GOLF WHEN I INJURED MY ELBOW A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO AND REALIZED THEY'RE BOTH TARGET HUNTING, AND THEY'RE BEAUTY TO HAVE THE OPTION TO PLAY BOTH.
I WOULD VERY MUCH EMPHASIZE ALL YOU EXPERIENCING GOT IT'S PRETTY FUN.
>> WHO HANDLES THE MARKETING AND ADVERTISING?
>> MARKETING AND ADVERTISING. PAR ON DISC GOLF IS WHO SPONSORED THE JACKSONVILLE OPEN.
THERE ARE A DISC GOLF STORE IN JACKSONVILLE.
THERE'S ALSO DR. CHARLIE BORAS WHO SPONSORED THE OPEN AS WELL,
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AND THAT'S JUST BIG NAMES THAT WERE ON THE OPEN ITSELF.THERE'S A LAUNDRY LIST OF OTHER SMALLER SPONSORS AND PEOPLE WHO ARE INVOLVED IN THE ENTIRE EVENT ITSELF.
>> WHAT ABOUT FOOD AND BEVERAGE?
>> WE ARE VERY HUNGRY PEOPLE PLAYING GOLF.
OBVIOUSLY, WITH THE FOOD AND BEVERAGE OPPORTUNITY AT THE GOLF COURSE, IT WOULD INCREASE THE REVENUE POTENTIAL FOR THE EVENT AND AS FAR AS THE CITY GOLF COURSE INCREASING THERE.
>> NO, WE DON'T BRING ANYTHING. NO, SIR. I TAKE THAT BACK.
YOU MIGHT SEE AT OTHER EVENTS, FOOD TRUCKS SHOW UP, BUT THAT'S BECAUSE THEY'RE DONE LIKE AGAIN AT LOCAL PARKS.
WITH THE OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE FOOD AVAILABLE, THAT COULD VERY WELL BECOME PART OF THE ATTRACTION.
>> YES, SIR. THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR TIME.
>> THANK YOU. JEFFREY, WOULD YOU COME UP TO THE PODIUM, PLEASE?
>> JEFFREY VICKERS, GENERAL MANAGER, FERNANDINA BEACH GOLF CLUB.
>> I WANT TO ASK YOU, HOW DO YOU PERCEIVE THIS AS A WHAT'S YOUR FEELINGS TOWARDS THIS?
>> I THINK I'VE TALKED TO YOU ONCE ON THE PHONE BEFORE.
THE SIX MONTHS THAT I'VE BEEN HERE TRYING TO GET THE GOLF COURSE BACK IN BETTER SHAPE.
I TOLD HIM AT THIS TIME I WASN'T INTERESTED, BUT BARRING THE NUMBERS, NOT DISTURBING PLAY AS FAR AS FOR MEMBERS, GUESTS, WITH THE LUXURY OF HAVING 27 HOLES, KNOWING THERE'S POTENTIAL FOR FOOD AND BEVERAGE.
I'M INTERESTED IN TALKING A LITTLE MORE.
BUT I JUST WANT TO GET PROBABLY TALK TO MY SUPERINTENDENT GET HIS FEELINGS TOO ON THE GOLF COURSE, AND JUST DO A LITTLE MORE INVESTIGATION.
>> THE IMPACT IT HAS ON YOUR DAILY GOLF LEDGER FOR.
>> WELL, I THINK THAT DEPENDS AS MR. GOLD SAID, WHAT DAY OF THE WEEK WE HAVE IT ON.
WHAT WE HAVE GOING ON THOSE DAYS, AND THE ABILITY TO WITH 27 HOLES, STILL HAVING MEMBERSHIP IN THE PUBLIC, HAVING THE ABILITY TO GO OUT AND PLAY GOLF, TAKING NINE HOLES AWAY, IT DEPENDS.
IT DEPENDS ON THE TIME OF YEAR.
THERE'S A LOT TO IT. I THINK I JUST NEED TO DO A LITTLE MORE INVESTIGATION.
>> YOU RECOMMEND THE MEMBERS MEET WITH MR. BIGGERS PRIVATELY AND DO THEIR OWN RESEARCH?
>> ALL OF YOU WELCOME TO COME KNOCK ON MY DOOR, ABSOLUTELY.
>> POSSIBLY, PUT IT ON ANOTHER AGENDA.
>> YEAH, I WOULD LOVE TO HEAR THE RESPONSE FROM THE MEMBERS AND HOW THEY FEEL ABOUT GIVING UP X AMOUNT OF TIME OFF THE GOLF COURSE?
>> BECAUSE THE MEMBERS ARE THE ONES THAT ARE PAYING THE FREIGHT FOR NOT BEING ABLE TO BE ABLE TO PLAY FOR X AMOUNT OF TIME, WHATEVER IT IS.
>> THE NEXT THING THAT I WOULD WANT TO KNOW IS, I'M SORRY.
WOULD THIS BE AN ANNUAL THING OR A MONTHLY THING OR A QUARTERLY THING?
>> THE INITIAL IS JUST FOR AN ANNUAL ONE EVENT.
I JUST WANT TO SHOW THE POPULARITY AND MOVE FORWARD.
>> I SEE IT LIKE A GOLF TOURNAMENT.
AGAIN, I MEAN, WE CHARGE A CERTAIN AMOUNT FOR GOLF.
I'M NOT EVEN GOING TO GUESS WHAT THEY CHARGE YET.
BUT THERE'S PLENTY OF TIMES THAT WE HAVE OUTSIDE GOLF EVENTS.
I THINK WE JUST HAD SOMETHING A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO, WHERE WE STILL HAD OUR BLITZ OUT, HAD 60 SOME PLAYERS, AND HAD 70 SOME PLAYERS IN A TOURNAMENT AND DID OVER 150 PLAYERS IN A DAY.
BUT YEAH, NUMBERS WOULD MATTER TOO. I AGREE.
>> I HAD ONE ADDITIONAL, PLEASE DON'T.
PLEASE IT'S JUST A QUICK QUESTION.
>> IT IS. UNLESS THERE'S LIGHT, WE'LL PLAY THROUGH.
[6.1 Driving Range/Top Tracer (Status/Damage)]
>> DISCUSSION ITEM 6.1, THE DRIVING RANGE TOP TRACER STATUS AND DAMAGE. [LAUGHTER]
>> JUST WANTED TO GIVE YOU GUYS AN UPDATE.
TO BE HONEST, RIGHT NOW, WE ARE IN CONTACT WITH THE INSURANCE ADJUSTER OVER THE LAST 6-10 BUSINESS DAYS.
WE'VE PUT IN A PROFIT AND LOSS STATEMENT FOR THE MONTHS WE'VE BEEN CLOSED AND FOR THE LAST TWO YEARS, AND WE'RE IN A WAITING SITUATION.
WE HAVE STARTED CLEARING SOME OF THE AREA, WHICH I'LL DISCUSS LATER.
BUT AS FAR AS THE DRIVING RANGE GOES,
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YEAH, WE'VE BEEN CLOSED SINCE THE HURRICANE, AND WE ARE LOOKING AT POSSIBILITIES DEPENDING ON WHAT WE GET BACK FROM THE ADJUSTER, WHETHER WE DEPENDING ON THE POLES, THE STATUS OF THE POLES THAT THE NETS ARE ON, IF WE ARE JUST GOING TO PUT NETS UP, OR WE'RE LOOKING AT DEPENDING ON HOW MUCH WE GET.WE'RE GOING TO PUT NEW POLLS IN.
AS I SAID, I'VE TALKED TO THREE DIFFERENT COMPANIES AND HAVE NUMBERS FROM THEM, WHICH I GAVE TO THE ADJUSTERS, AND WE'RE JUST IN THAT PATTERN OF HOLD RIGHT NOW.
NO ONE'S MORE ANXIOUS THAN MYSELF TO GET THAT BACK OPEN.
I CAN TRY TO ANSWER ANY OF YOUR QUESTIONS, BUT THAT'S WHERE I'M AT.
>> I PLAYED PRETTY REGULARLY WITH THE BLITZ'S AND THE MIXER ON SATURDAY MAINLY AND I'VE ALSO SPOKE TO ANOTHER PERSON THAT SUGGESTED AT CERTAIN TIMES OR SEMI PERMANENTLY UNTIL THIS IS RESOLVED, WE MOVE THAT FIRST T TO ABOUT THE 150 YARD MARKER AND OPENED THE RANGE.
>> MOVE THAT BUT YOU'RE NOT GOING TO HIT SOMEBODY.
I BELIEVE IT'S WHAT HE'S TALKING ABOUT.
>> IT COULD BE A POSSIBILITY. I COULD CONSIDER THAT.
>> WHEN YOU'RE OUT ON A GOLF COURSE, THERE'S A CHANCE YOU'LL BE HIT BY A BALL FROM ADJOINING T OR FAIRWAY.
I JUST WONDER WHETHER WE'RE BEING OVERLY CAUTIOUS ABOUT THIS.
>> I THINK BECAUSE I WAS NEEDING THAT INSIGHT.
THAT'S WHY I CONSULTED OUR CITY ATTORNEY, AND SHE PRETTY MUCH SAID WE COULD BE LIABLE, AND THAT'S WHY WE NEEDED TO CLOSE IT UNTIL WE FULLY REPAIRED.
THE NET AND THE POLES AND GOT US BACK UP FULLY FUNCTIONAL.
BUT YOUR SUGGESTING IT CHANGES OBVIOUSLY THE DESIGN OF THE GOLF COURSE BECAUSE IF PEOPLE PLAYING NORTH, THEY CAN'T TEE OFF THERE.
WE'D HAVE TO GO A GOOD 150, 200 YARDS UP.
I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S WORTH IT OR NOT, BUT AS I SAID, IT'S WORTH DISCUSSION.
>> YOU CAN GET PEOPLE WALK DOWN THAT LEFT ROUGH.
>> THEY COULD STILL GET, YEAH.
>> BUT ANYTHING DOWN THAT FAIRWAY, SOMEBODY COULD GET HIT, AND I THINK THAT'S THE BIGGEST THING.
LET ME GET BACK WITH HER, SEE HER THOUGHTS.
>> HONESTLY, I WOULDN'T JUST RELY ON HER.
I CAN COME DOWN TO THE CITY MANAGER AND THE COMMISSIONERS, WHAT THEIR FEELINGS ARE.
>> I MIGHT HAVE TO INTERRUPT ON THAT ONE.
WE'RE PUTTING THE BURDEN OF SAFETY OUT THERE, AND THE CITY ATTORNEY'S GOING TO LOOK FOR ANYTHING THAT HAS THE POSSIBILITY OF HAVING A LAWSUIT OR ANYTHING THAT COULD HAVE THE ABILITY TO HAVE A LAWSUIT.
SO I THINK WE SHOULD ERR ON THE SIDE OF CAUTION.
MOVE FORWARD, ONCE THE OPPORTUNITY FROM THE INSURANCE COMPANY SETTLES, AND WE HAVE A ROAD, A PATH TOWARDS TRYING TO REGAIN AND OR REDO THE DRIVING RANGE.
I KNOW IT'S BEEN A LOSS FOR THE LAST WHAT? SIX WEEKS?
>> ALMOST TWO MONTHS.[OVERLAPPING]
>> TWO MONTHS IN A COUPLE OF DAYS, YEAH.
>> OKAY. FOR THE TWO MONTHS THAT WE'RE DOWN, WE'RE NOT FACING A LAWSUIT.
WE'RE NOT FACING ANYTHING BUT THE ABILITY TO SAY, YEAH, I'M WORRIED MORE ABOUT THE LAWSUITS.
THE CITY MANAGER DOES NOT COME INTO EFFECT UNTIL DECEMBER OF THE SECOND.
>> I THINK THE LAWSUITS IS OVER.
>> I'M TRYING TO [OVERLAPPING] PROTECT THE GOLF COURSE AS WELL.
AND TO BE HONEST, AS SOON AS WE GET A GREEN LIGHT ON THIS AND I'VE TALKED WITH SCOTT, AS SOON AS THEY TELL US WHERE WE'RE AT MONETARILY WISE, WE'RE PLANNING TO ACCELERATE FORWARD AND GET THIS THING REPAIRED.
IF WE DID DO SOMETHING LIKE THAT, WE COULD JUST IT MIGHT GET SCRAPPED IN A WEEK, TWO WEEKS.
I DON'T KNOW, BUT I AM ERRING ON THE SIDE OF CAUTION AS WELL.
WE MIGHT HAVE TO CLOSE THE WHOLE COMPLETE HOLE BECAUSE SOME LONG HITTERS CAN HIT THE BALL VERY HIGH AND OVER THOSE TREES, YOU COULD STILL GET HIT, BUT WITH US NOT HAVING THAT NET UP PROTECTING IT,
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THAT'S WHAT KEEPS US LIABLE. FROM MY UNDERSTANDING.[OVERLAPPING]>> MOST OF THE GIRLS WOULD GO OVER THE NETTING, THE ONES THAT ARE MAKING IT OUT TO THE FAIRWAY.
THEY'RE NOT GOING THROUGH THE GAP IN THE NETTING. THEY'RE GOING OVER.
>> I UNDERSTAND THAT, BUT I THINK BECAUSE OF US BEING NEGLIGENT BECAUSE THE NETS ARE DOWN AND ALLOWING PEOPLE TO CONTINUE TO HIT FROM MY UNDERSTANDING, DISCUSSING THIS WITH THE CITY ATTORNEY, THAT'S WHERE WE WOULD POSSIBLY BE CONSIDERED LIABLE REGARDLESS IF THE GUY HIT OVER THE NET THROUGH WHERE THE NET USED TO BE UNDER THE NET, THAT'S WHERE I'M AT.
>> IF WE DO WORST CASE SCENARIO, AND WE ENCOURAGE JEFFREY TO OPEN THE FIRST HOLE NORTH FROM 150 YARDS IF SOMEONE GETS HIT, NOT ONLY IS JEFFREY NOW CIVILLY LIABLE, WE ARE.
MEMBERS OF THE BOARD ARE. BECAUSE WE ALREADY HAVE ADVICE FROM COUNSEL THAT SAYS, DON'T DO IT.
WHEN WE DON'T TAKE COUNSEL'S ADVICE, THEN COUNSEL BECOMES A WITNESS FOR WHOMEVER DECIDES THEY WANT TO SUE US THE TOWN, AND SUE US CIVILLY INDIVIDUALLY.
>> SAFETY IS THE MOST IMPORTANT THING.
>> YEAH. I MEAN, THAT'S WHY THIS IS HAPPENING EXACTLY BECAUSE OF THE CITY LIABILITY.
IF YOU HAD A PRIVATE COURSE YOU MAY NOT HAVE THAT, BUT WITH THE CITY, THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT MISS BACH IS THINKING ABOUT.
IF THE NET WAS UP, WE SAY, WELL, IT'S JUST A ODD COINCIDENCE.
BUT WITH THE NET DOWN, AGAIN, WE WOULD BE [OVERLAPPING].
>> UNDER THE CIRCUMSTANCES, I GUESS, WE NEED TO DO WHAT WE'RE DOING.
I MEAN, ONLY THING WE CAN DO IS DRIVE A LIGHT OF FIRE UNDER THE INSURANCE, I GUESS.
THEY AIN'T GOING TO BE IN A HURRY TO GIVE IT. [OVERLAPPING]
>> I SENT AN E-MAIL OUT THIS MORNING PRIOR TO THIS MEETING.
[OVERLAPPING] WE'LL LEAVE THIS OUT FOR THE HOLIDAYS TO THE INSURANCE ADJUSTER.
>> I KNOW THIS IS LIKE SHOOTING INTO THE WIND, BUT HOW MUCH APPROXIMATELY DO WE LOSE PER DAY, AVERAGE?
>> I WAS GOING TO GET INTO NUMBERS LATER, BUT AT THIS POINT, DRIVING RANGE, PROBABLY IN THIS TIME FRAME OF THE LAST MONTH, COMPARED TO LAST YEAR, WE DID ABOUT SIX OR $7,000, I THINK LAST YEAR IN THIS FIRST 26 DAYS OR SO OF NOVEMBER.
>> THAT DOES NOT INCORPORATE THE COST [OVERLAPPING].
>> THEN THE SECOND PART IS WE HAVE A NEGATIVE NUMBER FROM TOPTRACER.
>> YES. WE'RE STILL PAYING THE BILLS FOR TOPTRACER.
>> WE'RE PAYING THE BILL FOR TOPTRACER, EVEN THOUGH WE'RE USING IT FOR INTERNET. [OVERLAPPING]
>> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON THE DRIVING RANGE?
>> YEAH. YOU JUST GO. [OVERLAPPING]
>> I GUESS YOU MIGHT AS WELL STAY RIGHT THERE.
[6.2 Stormwater Drainage (Upcoming Project)]
I AM 26.2 STORM WATER DRAINAGE.>> WITH THAT, I HAVE SOME IMAGES I THINK THAT WERE PUT IN YOUR PACKETS, AND I ALSO TOOK SOME PICTURES ON THE GOLF COURSE.
THIS IS THE LEFT OF NUMBER 5 WEST.
IN PREPARATION FOR THE DRIVING RANGE, WE RENTED A COMPACT TRACK LOADER WITH A MULCHING HEAD AND A GRAVEL BUCKET.
WE DID IT FOR A WEEK TO CLEAR THOSE AREAS FOR WHEN WE GET TO THE REPAIR OF IT BECAUSE OF THE OVERGROWTH, AND WE'RE PLANNING ON KEEPING ALL OF THAT DOWN GOING FORWARD.
BUT BECAUSE WE HAD IT A WEEK, WE WERE ALLOWED TO GET ON THE GOLF COURSE AND DO SOME OF THIS CLEARING.
IT'S RELATIVE TO THE PAGES THAT WERE SENT THAT SHOW WHERE WE'RE GOING TO BE DOING IRRIGATION WORK.
WE'VE REACHED OUT TO UTILITIES TO TRY TO GET ON THEIR BOOKS IN FEBRUARY.
THESE AREAS ON THE DRIVING RANGE.
IF YOU LOOK ON THAT FIRST PAGE, AND I'LL REFERENCE BACK TO THE PICTURES UP HERE AS WE GET TO IT, HOPEFULLY, WE'LL IMPROVE WHEN WE REOPEN THE RANGE AND KEEP IT FROM BEING AS WET AS IT IS.
SOME OF THESE ARE BROKEN LINES, IF YOU CAN SEE ON THAT.
IF YOU REMEMBER A COUPLE OF MONTHS AGO, COMING DOWN FROM NUMBER 6 TO NUMBER 1 NORTH.
WE STILL HAVE WET AREAS IN THOSE AREAS.
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>> ONE OF THE LINES COMING ACROSS FROM NEAR WHERE THE CART BUILDING IS, ALL OF THESE GO EXTEND INTO THE RANGE ALL THE WAY OUT TOWARDS EGAN'S CREEK.
THAT AREA THERE WITH THE RANGE GOING FORWARD, FOUR AND FIVE, WHICH IS THIS IMAGE HERE, SHE BRING THAT UP NOW.
>> DO YOU WANT THE SECOND ONE?
>> YOU GUYS DIDN'T SEE THIS ON YOUR.
>> OKAY. IF YOU HAVEN'T HAD A CHANCE, THAT'S THE DRIVING RANGE PART.
WE COULD GO TO THE HOLDS 4 AND 5.
DO YOU HAVE THAT IMAGE, PAM? SHE HAD THAT IMAGE.
FOUR AND FIVE, I SHOWED THE CLEARING THERE.
ON NUMBER 4, WE'VE CUT BACK TOWARDS THE PARKWAY WITH SOME OF THAT TOO.
YEAH. SO THE CUTTING UP THERE WENT TOWARDS THE PARKWAY AT THE TOP, THOSE ARE THE SWELLS ON THIS SIDE, AND THESE SWELLS DOWN HERE IS WHERE THAT IRRIGATION IS GOING.
IF YOU NOTICE THAT'S WHERE IT CAN BE REALLY WET WHEN WE HAVE A LOT OF RAIN AND IT COMES OUT ON THE GOLF COURSE.
THESE PLANS, I THINK THEY'RE IN OUR BUDGET.
THE PLAN IS TO WORK AND GET THOSE AREAS DOWN.
WE DID THAT WITH THE LOADER, AND THEN WE GET ON UTILITIES BOOKS FOR THIS REPAIR, WE'LL BE ABLE TO DO THAT.
>> ARE YOU DIGGING DITCHES LIKE A YARD?
>> YEAH, IT'S PRETTY MUCH DITCHES AND IRRIGATION, BECAUSE IF WE GO TO NUMBER 8, DO YOU HAVE THAT ONE UP THERE? HOLE NUMBER 8?
>> THE NEXT PAGE, WHICH MAY BE UPSIDE DOWN.
IF YOU GUYS DIDN'T KNOW BECAUSE I DIDN'T, THERE'S A POND UP THERE OFF TO THE RIGHT OF NUMBER 1 WEST.
WE'VE CUT THROUGH THERE. YOU CAN NOW SEE IT WHERE WE CLEAR IT OUT, AND THAT PONDS GOING TO COME DOWN AND THAT'S TO GET THAT DITCH TO CUT ACROSS.
AS YOU GUYS KNOW, THAT'S WHERE THE MOST OF THE WATER SAT ON NUMBER 8 WEST DURING ALL THE RAIN EVENTS WE HAD.
I BELIEVE ONE OF THOSE PIPES FROM TALKING TO THE SUPERINTENDENT IS CRUSHED.
THAT'S WHAT'S CAUSING THAT WATER NOT TO FLOW DOWN TOWARDS THE LAKE.
SO ALL OF THAT AREA IN THERE IS GOING TO BE INCLUDED IN THIS PLAN TO GET THE DRAINAGE AND IRRIGATION ON THOSE THREE HOLES.
HOPEFULLY, REDUCE WHEN WE GET THESE RAINS.
>> DO WE HAVE TO CLOSE DOWN THE COURSE?
>> WE'LL BE PLAYING THROUGH IT. WE'RE GOING TO TRY TO DO IT IN FEBRUARY, AS I SAID, BECAUSE TALKING TO MAINTENANCE, WE WANT TO DO IT WHEN UNFORTUNATELY, THE FAIRWAYS GET THIN.
THE BERMUDA IS NOT GROWING, SO WE DON'T CAUSE ANY ISSUES THERE.
ONE BIG KEY WITH IT IS WE HAVE TO MAP IT OUT SO WE DON'T HIT ANY OF OUR IRRIGATION LINES, ANY WIRING THROUGH THERE.
IT SHOULDN'T AFFECT PLAY TO AN EXTENT.
MAYBE A PARTIAL CLOSED HOLE HERE OR THERE, BUT WE'RE NOT PLANNING ON CLOSING ANYTHING COMPLETELY.
>> HOW LONG ARE THEY ESTIMATING IT'LL TAKE TO DO IT?
>> DID ANDRE EVER SAY? WE REALLY DIDN'T GET THAT FAR.
I DON'T THINK IT'S A PROJECT THAT'S GOING TO TAKE TOO LONG IF THE WEATHER COOPERATES.
THE REST OF THE PICTURES IF YOU WANT TO GO THROUGH THOSE PAINTINGS.
>> SURE, HERE. GO AHEAD, SCOTT.
CAN YOU GO BACK TO THAT IF YOU DON'T MIND? YES. SCOTT MICHAELSON, PARKS AND RECREATION DIRECTOR.
AS JEFFREY WAS STATING WITH THIS IS THIS AFFECTS THE NORTH COURSE.
IT WOULD BE 16 IN THE DRIVING RANGE ON NORTH.
SO IF IT WAS THE NORTH COURSE, WE WOULD JUST BE DOING THAT.
SO THE BENEFIT OF HAVING 27 HOLES.
WE WOULDN'T BE AFFECTING THE WEST AND THE NORTH AT THE SAME TIME.
THEN SO ALL OF THIS STUFF WOULD BE UNDERGROUND WORK WHERE JEFFREY WAS TALKING ABOUT ON THE WEST COURSE AT FIVE AND SIX, THOSE ARE MORE SWALES.
IT'S GETTING THE WATER OFF OF THE PLAYING SURFACE, AND THEN PUSHING IT TO I BELIEVE, THE PARKWAY THAT RUNS ALONG THERE.
BUT THOSE WOULD BE MORE SWALES AND NOT NECESSARILY A WHOLE LOT OF UNDERGROUND WORK.
WE WOULD BE WORKING WITH OUR UTILITY DEPARTMENT AND THE STORM-WATER TEAM ON THAT.
LIKE JEFFREY HAD ALSO MENTIONED, THIS IS IN OUR CURRENT BUDGET.
THE COST ISN'T ENORMOUS TO THE GOLF COURSE.
I THINK ONE OF THE MOST IMPORTANT AREAS IS THE DRIVING RANGE.
FOR THIS TO FALL PERFECTLY IS WE COULD GET THE DRIVING RANGE FIXED AND THEN IMMEDIATELY COME IN AND DO THIS DRAINAGE WORK.
SO WE DON'T EVER HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT CLOSING IT DOWN WHERE BALLS ARE PLUCKING.
I KNOW, JEFFREY'S WORKING WITH THE UTILITIES DIRECTOR ON GETTING THIS SCHEDULED.
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>> I GUESS THE ONLY OTHER THING I WAS GOING TO DO IS, PAM, COULD YOU SHED THE REST OF THE PICTURES? IF YOU GUYS HAVEN'T BEEN OUT LATELY, GOING AROUND THE EDGE IS WHAT THAT DID.
IT JUST REALLY CLEARED AND OPENED EVERYTHING OUT.
IF WE KEEP DOING THIS YEAR IN AND YEAR OUT AND DO THE PRACTICES AND PROCEDURES WE'VE BEEN DOING FOR THE GOLF COURSE, IT'S JUST GOING TO GET BETTER AND BETTER AND IMPROVED.
THAT'S NUMBER 4, GOING TO THE PARKWAY.
IF YOU NOTICE WHAT MARK DID IS HE CUT BACKWARDS AT AN ANGLE PROTECTION, SO WE DON'T GET HIT BY A GOLF BALL OR SOMETHING ON THE ROAD.
YOU COULDN'T HIT ONE BACKWARDS. YOU SEE WHAT I'M SAYING? I COULD HIT A TREE. GOING BACK THAT WAY AND OKAY, NEXT, PAM.
THAT'S THE LEFT SIDE OF FOUR AS WELL.
I THINK BACK HERE IS WHERE THAT CUT-THROUGH IS, BUT IT'S JUST REALLY GOING TO OPEN UP AND GET SOME OF THE GOLF COURSE BACK FROM ALL THE YEARS OF JUST GROWING IN.
AND THIS IS NOT STUFF THAT'S EASY TO MAINTAIN.
SO IT'S GOING TO COME BACK, BUT IF WE KEEP DOING A LITTLE BIT OF THIS EACH YEAR, IT'S GOING TO HELP TREMENDOUSLY.
ANY OTHER PICTURES? YEAH, ONE OTHER THING.
>> UNFORTUNATELY, WE'VE COLLECTED A LOT OF DEBRIS OVER THE YEARS, WHERE IT'S JUST BEEN PILED UP, AND I ADMIT WE DID ADD TO SOME OF THAT DURING THE HURRICANE, ONE OF THE HURRICANES AS WE PULLED STUFF OFF THE GOLF COURSE.
BUT THAT MACHINE REALLY WENT THROUGH A LOT OF THIS REALLY WELL.
AS CLOSE TO THE GROUND AS WE CAN GET, WE ALSO HAVE A NEW EMPLOYEE THAT'S GOT HIS CDL, AND WE'RE GOING TO START USING GRAVEL TRUCKS AND TRY TO GET IN THERE DURING THE WINTER WHEN WE'RE NOT DOING AS MUCH WORK, MAINTAINING THE GOLF COURSE TO GET THOSE AREAS DOWN BECAUSE THERE'S TWO OR THREE AREAS ON THE GOLF COURSE THAT I COULDN'T TELL HOW LONG WE'VE BEEN PILING DEBRIS UP IN THERE.
THAT'S THE RIGHT OF NUMBER 1 WEST.
THEN ONE MORE PICTURE OF [INAUDIBLE], I THINK.
AND THAT'S THAT LITTLE RETENTION POND THAT HAD NO IDEA IT WAS OVER THERE.
BUT THAT'S WHERE THAT DRAINAGE GOES DOWN.
A LITTLE BIT OF IT COMES OFF NUMBER 1, BUT THE REST OF IT RUNS ALL THE WAY BACK THROUGH THE WOODS AND THEN DIRECTLY ACROSS IT INTO THE LAKE ON NUMBER 9.
I THINK THAT ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON THE DRAINAGE OR STORM-WATER THERE.
>> ANY QUESTION? I THINK YOU'VE DONE A GREAT JOB, AGAIN, WITNESSING HOW BAD THE FLOODING WAS THERE AND IT WASN'T JUST ON THE GOLF COURSE.
IT WAS IN ADJOINING NEIGHBORHOODS.
ANYTHING YOU'RE DOING TO ADDRESS THIS WILL PROBABLY HELP US IN THE FUTURE, I BELIEVE.
>> WELL, I WILL ADMIT THAT THE GOLF COURSE IS IN REALLY GOOD SHAPE.
WE ARE GETTING A LOT OF COMPLIMENTS ON THE GOLF COURSE.
PEOPLE COME IN AND HAVEN'T PLAYED THERE IN A WHILE.
ONE OF THOSE THINGS THAT MARK EVEN CONTENDS, HE'S NOT EVEN SURE IF THE REASON THE GREENS ARE SO GREAT IS JUST HOW MUCH THAT WATER SATURATED AND FILTERED THROUGH ALMOST LIKE AN AERIFICATION.
SO RIGHT NOW, KNOCK ON WOOD THE GOLF COURSE IS PRETTY GOOD.
[7. WGA UPDATE]
A WGA UPDATE, I GUESS WE DON'T HAVE.>> I WOULD BE WILLING TO SPEAK ON [OVERLAPPING] ABOUT THAT IF YOU ALL DON'T MIND.[OVERLAPPING].
>> THAT WOULD BE GREAT, PLEASE DO.
>> I DIDN'T TALK TO LYNN ABOUT THIS, BUT I KNOW THAT WE'VE HAD TWO EVENTS ON THE 11TH AND 12TH OF NOVEMBER.
WE HAD THE NINE HOLE LADIES' MEMBER GUEST.
THEY PLAYED NINE HOLES AT 12:30 THAT DAY AND HAD 26 PLAYERS.
THEY TEND TO NOT DO A LOT IN THE CLUBHOUSE WHEN THEY'RE DONE.
I THINK THEY GO OVER TO ONE OF THE MEMBERS' HOMES AFTERWARDS AFTER THEIR TOURNAMENT, BUT THAT WAS A GOOD TURNOUT TO HAVE 26 PLAYERS, AND THEN THE DAY AFTER WE HAD AN INFORMAL LADIES' MEMBER GUEST, WHICH LYNN DID PLAY IN, AND I BELIEVE SHE WON HER FLIGHT.
I DON'T THINK IT'S THEIR ACTUAL BIG MEMBER GUEST, BUT INFORMAL, GOOD TURNOUT, AND STARTING TO SEE SOME OF THE LADIES COME BACK DOWN AS FAR AS SNOWBIRDS AND PLAYING IN THEIR GROUP, AND LADIES' GROUP IS GROWING.
I JUST WANTED TO SAY THAT ON HER BEHALF FOR THE WGA.
[8. MGA UPDATE]
I'VE GOT TWO ITEMS. THE MEN'S GOLF ASSOCIATION HELD ITS ANNUAL CLUB CHAMPIONSHIP.ROGER OLIVER WAS THE MEDALIST SHOOTING PAR OVER TWO DAYS.
THE SECOND ITEM IS, JEFFREY, THIS DIRECTLY ATTACHES TO WHAT WE JUST TALKED ABOUT.
JOHN RUDD, WHO'S THE PRESIDENT OF THE MEN'S GOLF ASSOCIATION, HAS ENCOURAGED THE ASSOCIATION TO START TO PUBLISH A NEWSLETTER.
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AND IN THE FIRST NEWSLETTER, WHICH I BELIEVE CAME OUT TODAY, AND I'M SURE YOU'LL GET A COPY OF IT AS WELL AS ANYBODY ELSE WHO'S A MEMBER POINTS OUT THAT JOHN PLAYED EIGHT GOLF COURSES ALONG THE COAST OF FLORIDA DURING THE TIME THAT WE WERE SHUT DOWN BECAUSE OF THE HURRICANE.HE SAID WITHOUT QUESTION, OUR GOLF COURSE IS AS GOOD OR BETTER THAN ANY OF THE OTHER EIGHT GOLF COURSES THAT HE PLAYED.
IF YOU DON'T GET A COPY OF THAT NEWSLETTER, JUST PLEASE TAP ME WHEN I'M THERE AND I'LL FORWARD IT TO YOU.
>> I'D LOVE ONE AND THAT'S OUTSTANDING HERE.
>> I WILL PASS THAT ALONG TO OUR MAINTENANCE STAFF.
>> LET'S GIVE A COPY OF IT, AND MAYBE WE COULD PRINT IT AND HAND IT TO THEM, OR IF YOU HAVE A WAY TO CONTACT ALL OF YOUR EMPLOYEES, YOU JUST FORWARD IT ON.
>> YOU GET TO SEE THAT WHOLE THING. GOOD IDEA.
THAT'S IT FOR THE MEN'S GOLF ASSOCIATION.
>> THANK YOU, MR. KELLY. ITEM 9.
[9. FRIENDS OF FERNANDINA GOLF CLUB UPDATE]
FRIENDS OF FERNANDINA GOLF CLUB UPDATE.>> YOU WEARING MANY HATS TODAY.
>> WELL, BECAUSE OF OUR CHANGE OF SCHEDULE WITH MEETING, LEE MURRAY AND THE FRIENDS HAVE THEIR MEETING AT THE SAME TIME RIGHT NOW AT THE CLUBHOUSE.
I JUST TOLD HIM IF THERE'S ANYTHING HE'D LIKE ME TO SAY SINCE THEY WERE GOING INTO THEIR NEXT MEETING.
THE MAIN THING I WANTED TO DISCUSS WAS FROM THEIR PREVIOUS MEETING IN OCTOBER IS OUR PLANNED THREE DAY TREE TRIMMING.
IT'S GOING TO BE THE 15TH, 16TH AND 17TH OF DECEMBER.
IT'S GOING TO BE SHIFTS IN THE MORNING IN THE AFTERNOON.
IF ANYBODY'S INTERESTED, YOU HAVE TO FILL OUT A VOLUNTEER APPLICATION AND GET THAT TO PARKS AND REC AND THEN GET WITH LEE TO GET ON THE LIST.
BUT THAT IS UPCOMING AND PLANNED.
THAT'S THE ONLY THING I WAS GOING TO SPEAK ON BEHALF OF FRIENDS BECAUSE WE LOOK FORWARD TO THAT EVERY YEAR, AND WE WANT TO KEEP THAT GOING.
IT'S GOING TO BE VERY BENEFICIAL TO THE GOLF COURSE.
ANOTHER ADVANTAGE TRYING TO CLEAR THAT PLACE OUT AND GET MORE AIR CIRCULATION AND CONTINUE THE DIRECTION WE'RE GOING WITH COURSE CONDITIONS.
>> ARE YOU AWARE OF ANY AREAS OF EMPHASIS THEY PLAN ON CUTTING?
>> I SPOKE TO MARK, AND THAT'S THE SAME THING I ASKED HIM.
HE SAID IN THE PAST, WE'VE JUST STARTED ON NORTH AND JUST WENT WHERE AS NEEDED.
I SAID, SO YOU DON'T HAVE ANYTHING SPECIFIC.
I HAVE MY IDEAS. YOU PROBABLY HAVE YOUR IDEAS.
EVERYBODY'S PROBABLY GOT AN IDEA OF WHAT NEEDS TO BE TRIMMED BACK.
BUT I'M GOING TO LEAVE IT IN THEIR HANDS, AND WE'VE DONE IT FOR ONE YEAR AND SEEMED TO BE VERY PRODUCTIVE.
WHATEVER HE SEES AND DOES, AND WE DO HAVE GOLFERS IN THAT GROUP THAT ARE VOLUNTEERING, SO I'M SURE THERE'LL BE SOME INPUT, BUT THEY'RE JUST GOING TO START AND GO AND GET AS MUCH DONE AS WE COME WEATHER PERMITTED.
>> LAST YEAR, THERE WERE TWO LISTS BEFORE IT STARTED, AND MARK SAID, WELL, THAT'S NICE, BUT WE'RE GOING TO WORK ON MY LIST.
>> THERE YOU HAVE IT. EXACTLY.
>> LIKE I SAID, I HAVE NOT TALKED TO ANYONE INVOLVED WITH AS FAR AS LEE MURRAY GOES.
BUT I DO KNOW THAT MARK TOLD ME WE'LL ROLL WITH WHAT HE NEEDS TO HAVE DONE OUT THERE.
[10. STAFF COMMENTS]
MOVING RIGHT ON TO STAFF COMMENTS.>> SURE. THIS IS WHERE MY PORTION WHERE I'LL GO THROUGH AND DISCUSS ALL THE NUMBERS FOR OCTOBER.
FIRST THING I WANTED TO SAY BEFORE I EVEN GET INTO THAT, GOING BACK TO COURSE CONDITIONS.
I PLAYED SATURDAY AND I HAVEN'T PLAYED IN A WHILE AND GOT TO SEE PRETTY MUCH THE WHOLE GOLF COURSE, AND IT IS REALLY TO ME, VERY GOOD SHAPE.
THE GREENS ARE ROLLING REALLY CONSISTENT.
WE'RE HAVING A LOT OF INDIVIDUALS COME IN AND TELL US THEY HAVEN'T SEEN THE GOLF COURSE IN YEARS.
SOME PEOPLE COMING IN SAYING, I DON'T WANT TO PLAY SOUTH.
I WAS BAD, I WANT TO PLAY THIS.
WELL, THIS IS WHERE YOU HAVE TO GO, AND THEN THEY COME IN AND GO, WHAT HAVE YOU DONE? AGAIN, KUDOS TO THE STAFF OUT THERE, THEY'RE REALLY WORKING HARD TO GET THAT DONE, AND WE'RE ENCOURAGING OUR STAFF BEHIND THE COUNTER WHEN THEY COME IN AND GIVE US THOSE COMPLIMENTS TO TRY TO GO ON TO GOOGLE REVIEWS, GOLF NOW, TRIP BIZER.
IF YOU FEEL LIKE, YOU HAD THAT GOOD OF AN EXPERIENCE, AND YOU'VE SEEN A DIFFERENCE, PLEASE, GIVE US A POSITIVE COMMENT BECAUSE WE NEED TO BUILD THAT BACK UP AGAIN.
I THINK WE HAVE ABOUT 700 PLUS GOLF NOW REVIEWS ON THERE, WHICH IS ABOUT TWICE AS FEW AS EMILIA RIVER, AND WE'RE TRENDING UPWARDS.
IT'S GETTING BETTER. I THINK PEOPLE NEED TO GET ON THERE AND GIVE THOSE REVIEWS.
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GOOGLE REVIEWS AND TRIP ADVISOR NOT AS MANY, BUT I THINK MOST PEOPLE USE THE GOLF NOW APP TO TRY TO MAKE THEIR TEA TIME, SO THAT'S WHERE YOU'RE GOING TO SEE IT.I WILL SAY IT HAS TICKED UP A BIT IN THE LAST TWO MONTHS, AT LEAST SINCE WE'VE BEEN OPEN AFTER THE RAINS.
FROM THERE, I'LL GO INTO JUST THE LIST THERE THAT EACH ONE OF YOU SHOULD HAVE GOLF SHOP, OUR OCTOBER NUMBERS.
WE WERE 6,000 LESS THAN '23 FOR THE MONTH ACROSS THE BOARD.
THAT'S WITH NO DRIVING RANGE, WHICH IN OCTOBER, AVERAGE IS ABOUT $9,000.
YOU WERE ASKING EARLIER, I THINK, ABOUT THE LAST 20 SOME DAYS, IT WAS ABOUT SEVEN, SO SOMEWHERE IN THAT RANGE.
WE WERE CLOSED TWO DAYS WITH HURRICANE MILTON THAT DIDN'T REALLY PRODUCE ANY DAMAGE.
THE CITY CLOSED AND WE PROBABLY NEEDED TO BE.
TOTAL GOLF COURSE REVENUE WAS 90,437.
WHEN YOU TAKE MERCHANDISE SALES, CART FEES, GREEN FEES, THAT GIVES YOU THAT TOTAL.
ONCE AGAIN, THAT'S WITH NOTHING FROM THE DRIVING RANGE.
I'D LIKE TO GIVE A GREENS FEE CART FEE PER ROUND AVERAGE, AND THAT'S $27.94.
I'D LOVE TO SEE THAT GET UP CLOSER TO 30.
AS WE CONTINUE TO IMPROVE OUR GOLF COURSE, I THINK MORE AND MORE PEOPLE ARE GOING TO COME OUT AND PLAY.
ANY QUESTIONS ON THE GOLF SHOP? I'LL JUST KEEP GOING GOLF COURSE MAINTENANCE.
MOST OF THAT'S BEEN DISCUSSED.
WE HAVE A LOT OF PLANS GOING ON WITH THE CLEARING, THE IRRIGATION, THE DRAINAGE, AND OF COURSE, THE TREE TRIMMING COMING UP.
WE DID PUT OUT A 27 HOLE WALL- TO-WALL APPLICATION FOR FERTILIZER AND PRE EMERGENT.
WE DID THAT ON THE DAY OF THE 27 HOLE TOURNAMENT FOR THE LADIES.
WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE TO DO WHAT WE DID AGAIN, TODAY, KEEPING NINE HOLES CLOSED UNTIL WE GET TO THE POINT WHERE I FEEL LIKE WE'RE SO BUSY, WE NEED ALL 27 HOLES OPEN.
I DON'T THINK YOU GUYS KNOW HOW ADVANTAGEOUS THAT IS FOR THE MAINTENANCE STAFF.
TODAY, THEY WERE OUT EDGING BUNKERS, EDGING CART PASS, PUTTING PINE NEEDLES OUT AROUND T MARKING, JUST ALL THE LITTLE STUFF THAT DURING THE SUMMER, THEY DON'T HAVE A CHANCE TO DO AT TIMES, OR WHEN THERE'S PLAY OUT THERE, THEY CAN'T GET TO.
THAT WAS REALLY GOOD TO SEE OUT THERE TODAY. FOOD AND BEVERAGE.
WE DID $31,686 IN FOOD AND BEVERAGE.
AGAIN, WE WERE CLOSED TWO FULL DAYS.
WE HAD 34 FOR OUR OCTOBER FEST DINNER, AND WE HAD 61 FOR OUR SURF AND TURF.
LOVE TO [NOISE] SEE HOW YOU GUYS AND THE WIVES COME OUT FOR THOSE.
WE WOULD LOVE TO GET UP TO AROUND 80 FOR ABOUT EVERY ONE OF THESE.
IF WE COULD GET THE PARTICIPATION, I'M NOT AGAINST TRYING TO HAVE MAYBE TWO OF THESE A MONTH.
WE PUBLICIZE IT. WE PUT IT ON FACEBOOK.
I TRY TO SEND SOMETHING OUT ONCE A MONTH A CLUB UPDATE.
IF YOU'RE NOT GETTING THOSE, LET ME KNOW.
AS OF NOVEMBER 19, WE HAVE 137 MEMBERSHIPS.
MEMBERS ARE STILL CONTINUING TO JOIN.
I'M INTERESTED TO SEE WHAT HAPPENS WHEN WE HAVE THE SNOWBIRDS COME DOWN.
WE DIDN'T HAVE A LOT OF THEM JOIN LAST YEAR SEASONALLY, BUT IF THEY'RE PLAYING GOLF, IT'S A GOOD THING.
I THINK THAT'S ABOUT 74-75% OF OUR TOTAL BUDGETED FOR MEMBERSHIP.
LET'S SEE. ANY QUESTIONS ON THAT? GO INTO MARKETING. I'VE GOT A COUPLE MARKETING THINGS WE'RE DOING.
WE DID UP TO THEIR HOLIDAY ESSENTIALS MAGAZINE.
IT'S WITH A CHRISTMAS HYMN, AND THEN YOUR ADVERTISEMENTS AT THE BOTTOM.
THAT'S GOING TO BE OUR ADVERTISEMENT THERE.
LAST YEAR, I'VE RUN A COUPLE ADS TRYING TO GET WITH THEM AND HAVEN'T REALLY CHECKED WHAT THEY'VE RUN, AND SOME OF THEM HAVE HAD A LOT OF PROJECTION TOWARDS THE DRIVING RANGE BEING OPEN, WHICH IT HASN'T BEEN.
I ASKED HIM TO REDO THIS ONE AND NOT HAVE ANYTHING ABOUT THE DRIVING RANGE ON THERE.
BUT THAT'S GOING TO TIE IN TO THAT HYMN.
THE OTHER BIG MARKETING, THIS IS A NEW ONE, AND I MENTIONED IT LAST MONTH IS THE PAXTON MARKETING ON THE SIX FOOK KIOSK.
IF YOU LOOK AT THOSE PICTURES, THAT'S WHAT OUR ADVERTISEMENT LOOKS LIKE.
THE SECOND PAGE, THAT'S RIGHT AROUND THE CORNER HERE.
>> YES. THE HAMPTON IN DOWNTOWN HERE.
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BUT THAT'S WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE IN ALL FOUR OF THEIR HOTELS, AND THAT RUNS THROUGH IT.THAT AD'S NOT STATIC JUST SITTING THERE.
THEY'RE RUNNING THROUGH OTHER ADS.
I SAT IN THE LOBBY THERE FOR ABOUT 10 MINUTES JUST WAITING FOR IT TO COME UP TO GET A GOOD PICTURE OF IT.
I THINK THAT'S GETTING US OUT THERE BECAUSE I THINK THAT'S THE MARKET WE'RE LOOKING AT.
OTHER THAN THAT, I THINK WE'VE DISCUSSED WHAT MGA.
I ALWAYS MAKE A NOTE IN THERE ABOUT THE STROKE PLAY.
WE JUST HAD 27 PLAYERS PLAY IN THAT.
I DID PUT THOSE RESULTS ON FACEBOOK.
SO I DON'T KNOW IF YOU NOTICED THAT. THEY WERE IN THERE.
UPCOMING EVENTS, JUST TO LET YOU GUYS KNOW FOR THANKSGIVING AND CHRISTMAS EVE.
WE'RE GOING TO TAKE ABOUT AN HOUR AND A HALF TO TWO HOURS OF TEA TIMES UP UNTIL 10 O'CLOCK.
THEN WE'LL BE CLOSING THE GOLF SHOP AT 11:00, LETTING STAFF GO HOME WITH THE EXCEPTION OF OUR CART GUYS, AND THEN INDIVIDUALS ARE ALLOWED TO PLAY UP UNTIL TWO O'CLOCK IF YOU DON'T TEA OFF PRIOR TO TEN, YOU CAN'T GET ON THE GOLF COURSE, AND THEN THAT GIVES EVERYBODY A CHANCE TO GET HOME WITH THEIR FAMILY.
WE WILL NOT HAVE ANY FOOD AND BEVERAGE AS FAR AS IN THE RESTAURANT, EITHER ONE OF THOSE DAYS.
WE WILL HAVE DRINKS AND SNACKS IN THE GOLF SHOP IF PEOPLE NEED IT.
WE HAVE THE VFW TOURNAMENT COMING UP SATURDAY THE SEVENTH.
LAST I HEARD THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE 18-20 FOURSOMES.
THAT DAY WE WON'T HAVE THE BREAKFAST MIXER BECAUSE THEY'RE GOING OUT AT 10 O'CLOCK.
THE 14TH, WE HAVE THE NEXT MGA EVENT, THE SHOOTOUT, AND THAT'LL TIE IN WITH THE SAME DAY THAT WE'RE DOING OUR PRO SHOP HOLIDAY SALE.
WE'LL BE GIVEN EVEN BIGGER DISCOUNTS ON THAT DAY IF YOU COME IN TO DO ANY PURCHASE FOR CHRISTMAS.
>> JEFFREY BACK UP ON THE SEVENTH.
YOU HAVE THE BFW TOURNAMENT, SO THERE WON'T BE A MGA MIXER.
I TALKED TO JOHN LA FER, WHO'S SPEARHEADING THIS.
I TALKED TO MARY, AND WE LOOKED AT LAST TIME HE HAD THIS AND A LARGE MAJORITY OF THE INDIVIDUALS THAT PLAY IN THE MIXER WILL PLAY IN THIS.
IT WOULD CONFLICT SINCE YOU'VE GOING TO GOING TO HAVE TO USE 18 HOLES AT 10 O'CLOCK TO HAVE 70 SOME GOLFERS, AND YOUR MIXER GOES OUT AT 9:00, SO I THINK YOU'RE GOIN HAVE TO SIGN UP FOR THE TOURNAMENT.
>> ARE THEY STILL LOOKING FOR PLAYERS FOR THAT?
>> YES, SIR. THE 15TH, THE HOLIDAY BRUNCH.
WE HAVEN'T HAD A BRUNCH. I THINK WE'VE HAD ONE OR TWO BRUNCHES SINCE I'VE BEEN HERE.
THE RESTAURANT IS GOING TO HAVE 32 CHRISTMAS TYPE EVENTS BOOKED FROM THE FIRST TO THE 20TH.
KRISTI AND HER STAFF, AS WELL AS MYSELF AND PAM WILL PROBABLY BE IN THERE HELPING OUT AT TIMES, DEPENDING ON WHAT'S GOING ON.
WE DIDN'T HAVE WE'RE NOT DOING A DINNER THIS MONTH, WE PROBABLY DO BETTER HAVING THESE OUTSIDE EVENTS, BUT WE DECIDED TO HAVE SOMETHING ON THAT SUNDAY.
IF YOU'RE INTERESTED HOLIDAY BRUNCH ON THE 15TH.
THEN AGAIN, CHRISTMAS EVE, THE SAME AS THANKSGIVING WITH CHRISTMAS DAY BEING CLOSED.
MY LAST COMMENTS, I GUESS, EQUIPMENT, TO GIVE YOU GUYS AN UPDATE ON THAT.
THE REP SAYS MAYBE 2-3 WEEKS OUT ON OUR FAIRWAY MOWERS.
WE'RE STILL WAITING ON THAT AND IF YOU HAVEN'T SEEN PAM LAST PICTURE.
>> IT'S OKAY. IF YOU HAVEN'T SEEN THE BIG RED BEETLE OUT THERE, THE SPRAY RIG.
IT'S UP AND RUNNING, AND I THINK THAT WAS THAT ENCUMBERED, IS THAT RIGHT? WE WERE BEHIND GETTING THAT LAST YEAR.
>> THAT HAD BEEN BUDGETED A FEW YEARS. [OVERLAPPING]
>> WE'VE BEEN WAITING ON THAT AND FINALLY GOT IT IN.
IT'S NICE TO HAVE A NEW PIECE OF EQUIPMENT OUT THERE, ESPECIALLY THE OTHER ONE AND WE'RE TAKING THE OTHER ONE BACK AND ATTEMPTING TO SELL IT. THAT'S MY REPORT.
>> ANY QUESTIONS FOR HIM? NO, I THINK YOU ANSWERED EVERYTHING ON HERE.
>> HAPPY, THANKSGIVING, JEFFREY.
>> ITEM 11, BOARD MEMBER COMMENTS. I'M FINE,.
[11. BOARD MEMBER COMMENTS]
>> THE ONLY THING I WANT TO SAY IS WHEN I WAS AWAY, I GOT LIKE FOUR OR FIVE TEXT MESSAGES ON THE GOLF COURSE AND THE APPEARANCE OF THE GOLF COURSE, THE ABILITY TO SAY, I'M BACK AFTER SEVEN YEARS OR 10 YEARS I HAVEN'T BEEN ON THIS GOLF COURSE.
IT HAS BEEN LIKE EVERYTHING HAS BEEN POSITIVE.
[00:50:05]
THAT GOES TO A LOT OF THINGS, BUT MOST OF ALL, IT'S THE STAFF.THE STAFF THAT'S PUT IN THESE HOURS TO ENSURE THAT IT LOOKS LIKE A GOLF COURSE THAT PEOPLE ARE WILLING TO GO OUT THERE AND PLAY AND ENJOY FOR 18 HOLES.
YOU'VE DONE A REMARKABLY GREAT JOB AND STAFF HAS DONE AN OUTSTANDING JOB AND THE MAINTENANCE OF THIS GOLF COURSE.
THE THING THAT I WOULD ASK IS THAT WE ARE NOW ENTERING INTO WHAT I CONSIDER THE SNOWBIRDS COMING IN INTO THE AREA, NOVEMBER, DECEMBER OR SNOWBIRD TIME AND I KNOW YOU AND I HAVE HAD DISCUSSIONS ABOUT HAVING A POSSIBILITY OF A SNOWBIRD CARD THAT WE ONLY HAVE PEOPLE THAT LIVE HERE FOR SIX MONTHS.
THEY'RE OUT OF HERE IN APRIL OR MAY.
I REALLY BELIEVE THAT WE NEED EVERY OPPORTUNITY TO GRAB EVERY DOLLAR WE POSSIBLY CAN AND GET PEOPLE IN THERE TO TRY IT.
NEXT YEAR'S MEMBERSHIPS, WILL BE AN EASIER SELL AND LOOKING AT THE FUTURE, MY GOD, I THINK THE OPPORTUNITIES ARE SO GREAT COMING FORWARD FOR THIS GOLF COURSE.
WHEN YOU GET THE EQUIPMENT THAT YOU NEED, INSTEAD OF USING MOWERS THAT ARE NOT SUPPOSED TO BE USED FOR THAT ON THE FAIRWAYS, HEY, IT'LL JUST LOOK EVEN BETTER.
IT'S A REALLY A GREAT COMPLIMENT TO YOU AND YOUR STAFF. THANK YOU.
>> THAT'S GOOD. VERY WELL SAID.
>> THANK YOU. I HAVE NO COMMENTS.
>> SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR? [LAUGHTER]
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