[1. CALL TO ORDER] [00:00:08] >> GOOD EVENING THE RESIDENTS OF FERNANDINA BEACH, CALLING THE CITY COMMISSION MEETING TO ORDER. PLEASE CALL THE ROLE. >> CAN WE PLEASE STAND FOR THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE? >> I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA. AND TO THE REPUBLIC, FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION, UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. >> PLEASE STAY STANDING FOR THE INVITATION. >> LET US PRAY. FATHER, OUR GOD, WE COME AGAIN , THANKSGIVING IN OUR HEARTS , WE THANK YOU FOR LIFE , HEALTH, AND STRENGTH, WE THANK YOU FOR THE PRIVILEGE OF LIVING IN FERNANDINA BEACH, FLORIDA, AND WE THANK YOU FOR THIS FERNANDINA BEACH CITY COMMISSION . RIGHT NOW I'M A WE ASKED THAT YOU BE IN THE MIDST , WE INVOKE YOUR PRESENCE AND ASK YOU WOULD GUIDE IN A MANNER THAT IS PLEASING . FATHER, GOD BLESS FERNANDINA BEACH, FLORIDA AND GOD BLESS THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA. AND THE PEOPLE OF GOD SAID -- >> AMEN. [Additional Item] >> YOU MAY BE SEATED. ONE QUICK ORDER OF BUSINESS, MAYBE A LONG-AWAITED REQUEST, I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO MOVE PUBLIC COMMENT BACK TO THE BEGINNING OF THE MEETING. APPLAUSE ] ANY DISCUSSION ? >> I WILL SECOND . >> MOTION AND SECOND . PLEASE CALL THE ROLE. DISCUSSION, I APOLOGIZE. VICE MAYOR? >> I WILL VOTE NO, I BELIEVE WE SHOULD STILL ALLOW THE COMET THAT IS ON THE RESOLUTION TO TAKE PRESIDENT -- TO TAKE PRECEDENT. >> COMMISSIONER TUTEN? >> THE MARINA ADVISORY ADVISORY BOARD -- I WAS AT THE MEETING, ANY PRACTICAL WAY, THE SEATED CITIZENS OF OUR COMMITTEES OR BOARDS , IF THEY COULD SPEAK FIRST IN THE LINE? IF THEY ARE COMING BEFORE THE BOARD WITH CITY BUSINESS ? >> THAT WOULD BE THE PLAYER OF THE MAYOR, VICE MAYOR. >> OR THAT WOULD BE TOO COMPLICATED? >> MAYOR ANTUN RECEIVES REQUEST TO SPEAK FORMS. >> I DO NOT KNOW HOW YOU WOULD SORT THEM. IF THEY ARE VOLUNTEERING ON BOARDS, THE NEED TO COME FOR US WITH CITY BUSINESS, THEY SHOULD HAVE THE RIGHT TO SPEAK FIRST, ESPECIALLY IF COMMENTS WILL GO ALONG. >> I BELIEVE THAT IS A FAIR REQUEST, SENT MOST OF OUR BOARD MEMBERS ARE CITY RESIDENTS WE CAN MAKE A CONSIDERATION FOR THEM . ANY OTHER DISCUSSION AS FAR AS THE AGENDA? >> CAN I MAKE A SUGGESTION? I KNOW THERE IS A LOT OF YOUNG PEOPLE HERE TONIGHT ABOUT THE SKATE PARK ITEM, POSSIBLE WHEN WE GET TO SECTION 6, WE MAY MOVE IT UP TO ACCOMMODATE BEDTIME ? >>> WAS SLIDE THAT TO THE FRONT, CITY CLERK. THANK YOU. PLEASE CALL THE ROLE. >> COMMISSIONER MINSHEW? >> YES . >> MAYOR? >> YES. >> AYSCUE? >> NO. >> IT PASSES, 4-1. IF THERE IS A GOOD SENSE TO MOVE PROCLAMATIONS OUT INTO THE COMMUNITY , TO MAKE THAT EXTRA TIME FOR THE PUBLIC COMMENT AT THE BEGINNING. >> I WILL MAKE A MOTION. >> >> SECOND. >> COMMISSIONER DISCUSSION? COMMISSIONER MINSHEW? >> I UNDERSTAND THE NEED TO DO IT AND MAKE THINGS MOVE QUICKER. BUT , PROCLAMATIONS I THINK ARE AN INTEGRAL PART OF [00:05:02] WHAT WE DO AS A CITY COMMISSION. IT IS IMPORTANT, I THINK, TO MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS TO EVERYONE IN THE CITY , I THOUGHT THAT MAYOR MILLER MADE AN ELOQUENT COMMENT ON FACEBOOK THIS WEEK , ABOUT HOW IMPORTANT THESE PROCLAMATIONS ARE TO INDIVIDUALS AND HOW THEY SHOW THE DIVERSITY AND THE BREADTH OF DIFFERENT PEOPLE AND DIFFERENT ACTIVITIES THAT GO ON IN OUR COMMUNITY. INSTEAD OF JUST DOING AWAY WITH THEM, IF IT IS ALL ABOUT TIMING AND THE AMOUNT OF TIME, MAYBE WE COULD THINK ABOUT ONLY DOING ONE OR TWO IN THE MEETING. AND THE REST WOULD GO OUT . I THINK I AM NOT QUITE READY TO MAKE THAT WITHOUT MORE THOUGHT AND MORE CONVERSATIONS . >> I UNDERSTAND YOUR POINTS MY SUGGESTION WAS NOT TO DO AWAY WITH PROCLAMATIONS AND MOVE THEM INTO TIMIDITY SO COMMISSIONER SHOULD SHOW UP TO EVENTS IN PERSON AND DO IT WHEN IT IS MORE HANDS-ON IN THE COMMUNITY. SOMETHING WE HAVE SEEN INTEREST IN HAVING THAT. WE DON'T WANT TO STIFLE ANY PROCLAMATIONS . >> THAT IS MY POINT, MAYOR. I AGREE. NOT TO STOP PROCLAMATIONS, THEY WILL CONTINUE BUT GO OUT IN THE COMMUNITY , PEOPLE REQUESTING THE PROCLAMATIONS, WE HAVE A ENTIRE WAY OF WHAT DOES AND DOES NOT GET PROCLAMATIONS AND WE FOLLOW THAT, WHATEVER PROCLAMATIONS COME TO THE CITY CLERK 'S OFFICE, THEY CAN REQUEST A COMMISSION OR MAYOR TO GO TO THE COMMUNITY AND BE THERE AT THAT EVENT AND THAT IS WHERE MY MINDSET WAS. >> I WOULD LIKE TO ADD, OUR MARKETING AND PR DOES A WONDERFUL JOB, AN OPPORTUNITY TO PUT OUR COMMISSIONERS AND THE COMMITTEE . >> MY ONLY OTHER QUESTION, I THINK IT WOULD BE IMPORTANT TO DO IT ON SOCIAL MEDIA FOR ANYONE COULD BE -- READ THE PROCLAMATIONS ON THE CITY WEBSITE , SO IT IS EASIER FOR PEOPLE TO BUY THE PROCLAMATIONS. >> FAIR ENOUGH. COMMISSIONER TUTEN? >> HAVING ATTENDED MANY MEETINGS THAT GO WAY TOO LONG , I DON'T DISAGREE THAT PROCLAMATIONS AT THE BEGINNING AT A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF TIME TO EVERYBODY'S EVENING? IS IT POSSIBLE TO SPLIT IN CREATE A PROCLAMATION, I GUESS THAT IS TOO MUCH, NOT ACKNOWLEDGE IT AND BRING PHOTOS AND SPEECHES. >> ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION ? >> PLEASE CALL THE ROLE . >> AYSCUE ? >> YES >> POYNTER? >> MINSHEW? >> NO. >> THE MOTION PASSES, 4-1. PUBLIC COMMENT ITEMS NOT ON THE AGENDA, MR. MICHAEL SHARP? >> WE HAVE ONE PROCLAMATION. >> WE WILL TO THE PROCLAMATION FIRST AND GO FOR PUBLIC COMMENT. ITEM 4.1 -- IF YOU DON'T MIND, WE WILL RUN THE [4.1 PROCLAMATION - "TRANSGENDER DAY OF REMEMBRANCE" - Recognizing November 20, 2024, as "Transgender Day of Remembrance" to honor the lives of those who might otherwise be forgotten. Fernandina Beach Pride President Jordan Morris, Vice President Don Harley and board members will be in attendance to accept the Proclamation.] PROCLAMATION AND WE CAN DO PUBLIC COMMENT AFTER. THANK YOU. 4.1, COMMISSIONER TUTEN WILL PRESENT THE PROCLAMATION. IF WE GET UP ANY INVOLVED MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITY WHO WANT TO BE INVOLVED IN THIS PROCLAMATION, PLEASE STEP UP. >> THIS PROCLAMATION, WHEREAS 15 YEARS AGO, A TRANSGENDER WOMAN FOUNDED TRANSGENDER THEY REMEMBERS TO MEMORIALIZE THE MURDER OF A TRANSGENDER WOMAN KILLED BECAUSE OF ANTI- TRANSGENDER HATRED AND PREJUDICE, LIKE MANY ANTI-TRANSGENDER MURDER CASES, THE DEATH HAS YET TO BE SOLVED [00:10:06] THIS DAY OF HER MEMBERS IS AN INTERNATIONAL DAY OF ACTION, OBSERVED IN OVER 185 CITIES AND 20 COUNTRIES, ALTHOUGH NOT EVERY PERSON REPRESENTED DURING TRANSGENDER THEY HAVE HER MEMBERS SELF IDENTIFIES ESTROGEN HER, EACH HAS BEEN SUBJECTED TO VIOLENCE BASED ON BIAS AGAINST TRANSGENDER PEOPLE. THIS NEVER MEMBERS RAISES PUBLIC AWARENESS OF HATE CRIMES AND PUBLICLY MOORS AND HONORS THE LIVES OF THOSE WHO MAY OTHERWISE BE FORGOTTEN. THEY REMEMBERS REMINDS ALL THAT WE ARE THEIR SONS AND DAUGHTERS AND BROTHERS AND SISTERS AND PARENTS AND FRIENDS . DAY OF REMEMBRANCE PROVIDES OUR ALLIES AN OPPORTUNITY TO STEP FORWARD AND STAND IN VIGILANCE MEMORIALIZING THOSE WHO HAVE TRAGICALLY DIED SIMPLY FOR BEING WHO THEY ARE. WHEREAS TRANSGENDER DAY OF REMEMBERS IS AN ADVOCACY , EDUCATION, AND COMMUNITY BUILDING ORGANIZATION THAT WORKS TO STOP DISCRIMINATION ON THE BASIS OF GENDER IDENTITY EXPRESSION, THIS INCLUDES WORKING TOWARDS THE EMPOWERMENT OF ALL PERSONS WHO HAVE BEEN , ARE BEING, OR MAY BE DEPRIVED OF EQUAL RIGHTS AND OR FAIR TREATMENT BECAUSE OF THEIR GENDER EXPRESSION OR IDENTITY. NOW , THEREFORE, BY VIRTUE OF THE AUTHORITY VESTED IN ME AS COMMISSIONER OF THE CITY OF FERNANDINA BEACH PROCLAIMED NOVEMBER 20TH, 2024 AS TRANSGENDER DAY OF REMEMBRANCE AND REMIND ALL THAT WE ARE CREATED EQUAL AND HAVE CERTAIN UNALIENABLE RIGHTS WHICH INCLUDE LIFE, LIBERTY, AND THE PURSUIT OF HAPPINESS. THANK YOU. SHORT . OUT OF RESPECT FOR EVERYBODY AFTER THE RECENT COMMENTS . PLEASE JOIN US TOMORROW NIGHT, NOVEMBER 20 , IN CENTRAL PARK, AT THE GAZEBO AT 7:00 P.M., WE WILL COMMEMORATE THE LIVES OF EIGHT TRANSGENDER AND NON-BINARY INDIVIDUALS WHOSE LIVES WERE PREMATURELY TAKEN OVER THE PAST YEAR. ALL EIGHT OF THESE INDIVIDUALS LIVED WITHIN A SHORT DRIVE OF FERNANDINA BEACH. THE VICTIMS WILL BE REMEMBERED WITH POETRY, SONG, AND PRAYER AND SUPPORTED BY CLERGY AND MEMBERS OF MEMORIAL UNITED METHODIST CHURCH. AND ST. PETER'S EPISCOPAL CHURCH . THE SERVICE IS EXPECTED TO LAST 30 MINUTES I WOULD ENCOURAGE EVERYONE TO REJECT HARMFUL ANTI-TRANSGENDER LEGISLATION AT THE LOCAL, FEDERAL, STATE LEVELS TO MAKE STOPPING THE VIOLENCE A REALITY. THIS INTERSECTION OF RACISM, TRANS WILL BE A, SEXISM , AND HOMOPHOBIA CONSPIRE TO DEPRIVE THE TRANSGENDER COMMUNITY OF THE NECESSITIES THEY HAVE TO LIVE AND THRIVE . WE MUST ALL WORK TOGETHER TO CULTIVATE ACCEPTANCE, REJECT HATE HIM AND STOP THE STIGMA FOR EVERYONE IN THE TRANSGENDER COMMUNITY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >> >> WE WILL GIVE EVERYONE A MOMENT TO FILE OUT AND MOVE INTO THE PRESENTATION FOR BEACH NOURISHMENT. VICE MAYOR AYSCUE ? >> THE LAST TIME I SPOKE OUT AGAINST THIS PROCLAMATION, I GOT , MY CHIEF GOT AN EMAIL TRY TO TERMINATE ME, SO I WILL KEEP THIS BRIEF TO EXERCISE MY FIRST AMENDMENT RIGHT. I BELIEVE THAT THIS PROCLAMATION IS PART OF A BROADER POLITICAL AGENDA AND I WILL NOT SUPPORT IT. [4.2 PRESENTATION - BEACH RENOURISHMENT - City staff and Foth Infrastructure & Environment, LLC (f/k/a Olsen & Associates) will provide a presentation on upcoming beach renourishment projects.] >> COMMISSIONER -- THANK YOU , NEXT A PRESENTATION ON BEACH WE NOURISHMENT. -- BEACH REIMBURSEMENT. PLEASE KEEP THE VOLUME DOWN IN THE CHAMBERS , FOLKS. >> MICROSOFT -- FERNANDINA BEACH WELCOME, COMMISSIONERS, LOOKING FORWARD TO WORKING WITH YOU . TONIGHT, WE HAVE FOTH, THEY ARE OUR BEACH DREDGING CONSULTANT AND THEY ARE HERE TO PROVIDE A BRIEF PRESENTATION ON THE UPCOMING BEACH RENOURISHMENT PROJECTS THAT WE HAVE PLANNED FOR THIS YEAR. WE [00:15:02] HAVE ONE STARTING VERY SOON, THE CHANNEL DREDGING, AND A SECOND THAT WILL FOLLOW AND WE ARE IN BUSINESS. I STALLED LONG ENOUGH. >> GOOD EVENING. I WORK WITH OLSEN, MY BOSS, ERIC OLSEN HAS BEEN WORKING IN FERNANDINA BEACH FOR MANY DECADES AND HOPES TO RETIRE AND HEADING OUT TO MEET YOU AND WE ARE GOING INTO A VERY BUSY SEASON FOR BEACH RENOURISHMENT TO BOLSTER UP THE BEACHES ON THE ELECTRIC SHORELINE AND THIS IS TO PROVIDE AN UPDATE , THE SCOPE, WHERE IT WILL HAPPEN AND HOW MUCH AND MORE BROADLY, WHEN. SO, WE HAVE TWO PROJECTS COMING UP, BOTH TO BE CONSTRUCTED BY THE U.S. ARMY CORPS OF ENGINEERS. WE WILL STEP THROUGH THEM AS THEY HAPPEN BACK-TO-BACK THE FIRST IS KINGS BAY INTEREST CHANNEL MAINTENANCE DREDGING. THIS IS A PROJECT THAT OCCURS JUST ABOUT EVERY YEAR. IT IS THE MAINTENANCE OF THE ST. MARY'S CHANNEL LEADING UP TO KINGS BAY SUBBASE. BEACH DISPOSA THIS YEAR WILL INCLUDE AREAS AT FT. CLINCH TO PROTECT THE SHORELINE ALONG THE INLET. THERE WILL BE A SMALL DISPOSAL AREA NEAR NORTH BEACH PARK JUST SOUTH OF NORTH BEACH PARK , A TIGHT AREA ABOUT A HALF-MILE LONG. THIS WORK AS USUAL IS FUNDED AT 100% BY THE U.S. NAVY . ALL OF THE ACTIVITIES ARE COVERED BY THE NAVY. AND THE ARMY CORPS OF ENGINEERS FUNCTIONS AS THE ENGINEER FOR DOING SO. SECOND PROJECT WILL COME UP FAIRLY SOON , AFTER THE PROJECT . THAT DOES NOT OCCUR THAT OFTEN, NASSAU COUNTY SHORE PROTECTION PROJECT, AUTHORIZED FEDERAL PROJECT FOR BEACH RESTORATION AND SHORE PROTECTION , THAT IS FUNDED AT 100% RIGHT THE U.S. ARMY CORPS OF ENGINEERS, NOT ALWAYS FUNDED AT 100% BUT IN THIS CASE IT IS. THIS WILL INVOLVE DREDGING SAND FROM THE OCEAN FLOOR NEAR THE ST. MARY'S ENTRANCE JUST OUTSIDE ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF THE SOUTH JETTY. THE STENT PLACEMENT WILL PICK UP WHERE THE LAST ONE STOPPED, AROUND NORTH BEACH PARK, RUNNING SOUTH COME ALL THE WAY THROUGH SADLER ROAD, AND IT WILL STOP ABOUT 1500 FEET BEYOND SADLER ROAD. THESE TWO PROJECTS ARE INTENDED TO COVER A FULL SWATH OF THE SHORELINE AND KEEP THE BEACH IN ITS PROTECTIVE CONDITION FOR SEVERAL YEARS INTO THE FUTURE. THE NASSAU COUNTY SHORE PROTECTION PROJECT TYPICALLY GETS BUILT ONCE EVERY SIX OR SEVEN YEARS . FIRST BUILT IN 2008, WAS FACING RENOURISHMENT IN 2017 2018, 2019, AND WE WILL DO IT AGAIN IN 2025. JUST A LITTLE BIT OF A LOCATION, THIS IS A MAP FROM PERMIT DRAWINGS THAT THE ARMY CORPS OF ENGINEER PROVIDES FOR THE NORTHERN TWO THIRDS OF THE ISLAND. THE FIRST PROJECT , ZOOM IN AND GET SOME DETAIL. KINGS BAY MAINTENANCE PROJECT WILL PICK UP FIRST AND IT WILL , FIRST-PLACE SAND AT FT. CLINCH, ABOUT 84,000 CUBIC YARDS WILL GO THERE , BOLSTER THE AREA IN FRONT OF THE FT. . ABOUT 185,000 CUBIC YARDS, THIS IS A BIG NUMBER BUT NOT AS BIG AS THE NEXT PROJECT, WILL GO SOUTH OF NORTH BEACH PARK. THAT IS THE TYPICAL DISPOSAL RANGE FOR THE PROECT. THEY FOUND THE AREA NORTH OF NORTH BEACH PARK DOES NOT NEED QUITE AS MUCH AND THAT IS WHERE THEY WILL PLACE AT THIS GO AROUND. THE STREET ADDRESS, EAST 9TH. THEY WILL HEAD SOUTH, THEY WILL END AROUND EAST 4TH STREET. LATER, THE NASSAU COUNTY SHORE PROTECTION PROJECT WILL PICK UP AND DREDGE AN AREA OUTSIDE OF THE CHANNEL , SOUTH OF THE JETTIES , THEY WILL PUMP IT ASHORE AND PICK UP WHERE THAT PROJECT STOPPED AND RUN SOUTHBOUND ALL THE WAY PAST SADLER ROAD. A LITTLE BIT OF THE SCHEDULE, ALL RIGHT, THE CONTRACT HAS BEEN AWARDED AND THE CONSTRUCTION COMPANY WILL BE DOING THE WORK THIS TIME AROUND THEY HAVE A START DATE OF DECEMBER 15TH , THE FIRST DATE THEY COULD START . THEY WILL LIKELY START MOBILIZATION IN DECEMBER, IT COULD BE EARLY JANUARY WITH A LIKELY BEACH START OF JANUARY OF 2025 AND THEY HAVE A LOT OF WORK TO DO [00:20:06] TO CLEAR THE CHANNEL, BUT A LOT OF THE MATERIAL IS IN THE CHANNEL, MATERIAL YOU DO NOT WANT TO SEE ON THE BEACH. MUD, SILT, CLAY, THEY WILL BE TAKING THAT TO AN OFFSHORE DISPOSAL PROJECT. AREA, EXCUSE ME FROM THE BEACH PROJECT WILL LIKELY START UP IN JANUARY, THEY HAVE NOT GIVEN US A FIRM DATE BUT THAT IS THE BALLPARK. THEY HAVE TO BE FINISHED IN THE CHANNEL BY MARCH 31ST. THAT IS A PROTECTION MEASURE. WE EXPECT THAT THEY WILL SHOW UP ON THE BEACH AROUND NORTH BEACH PARK IN JANUARY , PROBABLY WILL TAKE 30 DAYS OR LESS TO COMPLETE THE VOLUME THEY WILL PUT THERE. THE ACTIVITY WILL BE IN JANUARY AND FEBRUARY OF 2025 AND THEY WILL BE OUT. THERE WILL BE A LITTLE BIT OF A PAUSE BEFORE THE SECOND PROJECT PICKS UP WHICH HAS DIFFERENT TIME CONSTRAINTS . THE NASSAU COUNTY PROJECT HAS NOT BEEN ADVERTISED YET AND WE WILL -- WE WILL FIND OUT. THEY WILL BE GIVEN A NOTICE TO PROCEED AT THE END OF MARCH WITH THE GOAL OF STARTING , IF THEY ARE PAYING ATTENTION TO THE LETTER, THEY WILL START AS SOON AS THEY CAN WHICH WILL LIKELY MEAN MOBILIZATION OF THEIR EQUIPMENT, WHAT YOU ARE USED TO SEEING, PROBABLY IN MAY OF 2025. THEY WILL BE USING THAT STREET ACCESS THAT THEY USE, INCLUDING THE PARKING LOT NEXT TO IT . THEY WILL ALSO BE USING THE SADLER ROAD ACCESS FOR PART OF THIS WORK AN END DATEBECAUSE THEY HAVE TO GO ALL THE WAY DOWN THERE. THEY HAVE A NO LATER THAN NOVEMBER 17TH . I DON'T THINK THEY WANT TO BE WORKING HERE IN NOVEMBER WITH THE WEATHER , SO THEY MAY EXPECT THEY MAY SHOW UP IN JUNE TO GET STARTED ABOUT 90 DAYS FOR CONSTRUCTION, THEY WILL WORK THEIR WAY SOUTH THROUGH THE SUMMER ALONG THE BEACH. 90 DAYS IS A FAIRLY SMALL, LOW PRODUCTION RATE , THEY WILL TRY TO GET IT DONE AS FAST AS THEY CAN. IF EQUIPMENT AND THE WEATHER ALLOW, IT COULD GO SUBSTANTIALLY FASTER THAN THAT. THAT WILL BE HELPFUL FOR THEM, FOR US, FOR EVERYONE. CONSTRUCTION ACCESS, I WANT TO MAKE SURE EVERYBODY IS CLEAR, BOTH OF THESE PROJECTS WILL USE THE DAUPHIN STREET ACCESS AND THE PARKING LOT . SADLER ROAD WILL COME INTO PLAY FOR THE NASSAU COUNTY PROJECT OVER THE SUMMER BECAUSE IT IS 3.5 MILES DOWN THE ROAD AND THEY HAD TO GET DOWN THERE SOMEHOW. YOU WILL SEE A LOT OF SHORE PIPE. THE BIG METAL PIPES THAT RUN DOWN THE BEACH. THEY WILL BE REQUIRED TO CONSTRUCT SAND RAMPS OVER THE PIPE AT VARIOUS INTERVALS. SO PEOPLE CAN GET OVER THE PIPE AND GET DOWN TO THE WATERLINE WHEN THE CONSTRUCTION GOES THROUGH. YOU HAVE SEEN THIS BEFORE WITH BULLDOZERS, HEAVY EQUIPMENT, THEY WILL HAVE THEIR ZONE FENCED OFF , THAT ZONE WILL MIGRATE DOWN THE BEACH AND THEY WILL PULL IT ALL OUT AT SADLER ROAD, WE ASSUME, AND THERE WILL BE BACK TO BUSINESS AS USUAL. JUST A FEW PICTURES . FOR THOSE NOT EXACTLY FAMILIAR WITH WHAT WILL HAPPEN, THESE ARE NOT NECESSARILY FROM FERNANDINA BEACH , I TRIED TO PICK CLEAR PICTURES. THE FERNANDINA BEACH , WHEN THEY DREDGE THE CHANNEL, THEY CANNOT BLOCK THE CHANNEL FOR AN EXTENDED TIME AND THEY HAD TO DO A HOPPER DREDGE WHICH IS COMING AND GOING , GOING OFFSHORE TO DUMP THE BAD MATERIAL AND COME BACK AND FORTH , BACK AND FORTH, THEY WILL PUMP OUT WITH A NICE STUFF NEXT TO THE SOUTH JETTY AND PUMP IT TO YOU. YOU WILL SEE A HOPPER DREDGE, YOU MAY SEE A HOPPER DREDGE FOR THE SECOND PROJECT OR SOMETHING CALLED A HYDRAULIC CUTTERHEAD PIPELINE, LIKE A BIG BARGE DOUBLE PARKED THE ENTIRE TIME , AND IT WILL SUCK UP THE SAND OFF THE BOTTOM AND PUMP IT ON SHORT THROUGH A LONG SERIES OF PIPES THAT MAY BE THE OPTION THAT YOU SEE. YOU MAY SEE ONE OF EACH OVER THE SUMMER. LOTS OF SHORE PIPE, THEY HAVE TO GET IT FROM THE OFFSHORE BARGE AND YOU WILL SEE A LOT OF PIPE EVERYWHERE. FILL ZONE IS THE LEVEL OF PICTURE, BULLDOZERS, YOU WILL ALSO SEE -- YOU MAY SEE A NEW PIECE OF EQUIPMENT CALLED AN EXTRACTOR. THIS IS A GIANT PIECE OF YELLOW EQUIPMENT THAT TAKES OUT ANYTHING THAT IS OVERSIZED , TYPICALLY MEANS PICKING OUT SHELL OR ANYTHING ELSE, DEBRIS, BIGGER THAN SAND, ACCEPTABLE TO PUT IT BACK ON THE BEACH, THEY [00:25:02] WILL DO THAT, OR OFTEN GOES TO BE PROPERLY DISPOSED OF OFF THE BEACH AND YOU WILL NEVER SEE IT AGAIN THIS IS A NEW THING THE U.S. ARMY CORPS OF ENGINEERS IS DOING DRASTICALLY IMPROVING THE QUALITY OF MATERIAL THAT ENDS UP ON THE BEACH. THAT IS WHY THEY DO IT. THAT IS IT. EVERYTHING WELL HAPPEN IN 2025 WE DO NOT WORK WITH THE -- FOR THE ARMY CORPS OF ENGINEERS, WE WORK WITH THE CITY TO BE THE LOCAL REPRESENTATIVES FOR THESE FEDERAL PRODUCTS WHICH HAVE REQUIREMENTS OF THE LOCAL SPONSOR TO PROVIDE CERTAIN SERVICES LIKE MONITORING FOR COMPLIANCE, THAT IS WHERE WE COME IN TO HELP NAVIGATE THE SYSTEM AND TAKE THE BURDEN OFF OF CITY STAFF. >> THANK YOU FOR THAT WONDERFUL PRESENTATION. COMMISSIONERS, DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? >> I PRESUME THE CITY OR THE CONTRACTOR WILL BE WORKING WITH THE AMELIA ISLAND TURTLE PATROL? >> 100%. THAT IS CORRECT, THE AMELIA ISLAND SEA TURTLE WATCH, A CONVOLUTED CONTRACT BUT , YES, THEY WILL WORK FOR THE CITY AND REMOVE, RELOCATING NESTS TO AREAS OUTSIDE OF AN ACTIVITY. WHEN THE CONTRACTOR ARRIVES, THEY WILL BE WORKING DIRECTLY WITH THE CONTRACTOR SO EVERY MORNING NESTS ARETHERE IS A CHECK IN AND RELOCATED . THIS HAS BEEN VERY SUCCESSFUL, LAST PROJECT THEY RELOCATED 47 NESTS AND THE HATCH RATE WAS PHENOMENAL BECAUSE THEY ARE BABYSAT THE ENTIRE TIME. >> FURTHER QUESTIONS? THANK [4.3 BUDGET SUMMARY - Comptroller Pauline Testagrose will answer any questions regarding the budget summary for October 2024.] YOU, WE APPRECIATE YOU. AND, NEXT, OUR BUDGET SUMMARY. TAKE IT AWAY. >> CITY COMPTROLLER, OCTOBER IS THE FIRST MONTH REPRESENT A .3 PERCENT OF THE BUDGET FISCAL YEAR, WHICH TENDS TO BE A SLOWER OF THE MONTH . FOR THE GENERAL FUND, YEAR-TO-DATE REVENUE IS AT 3.2% OF THE ANNUAL BUDGET, THIS IS BECAUSE OF THE TIMING OF THE PROPERTY TAX RECEIVED. GENERALLY , PROPERTY TAXES ARE PAID IN NOVEMBER AND DECEMBER, WITH THE LARGEST DISCOUNT CAN BE REALIZED. OVERALL, YEAR-TO-DATE, GENERAL FUND HEDGES ARE BELOW THE MARKET AT 5.2%. HOWEVER, SOME DEPARTMENTS OVER THIS BECAUSE OF ANNUAL SERVICE AND MAINTENANCE CONTRACTS. THE INTERFUND TRANSFERS FOR THE MONTH HAVE BEEN COMPLETED. FOR SOME OF THE OTHER FUNDS, CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT FUNDS, A DEBT PAYMENT WAS MADE ON THE FIRE TRUCK ENCUMBRANCES HAVE BEEN ISSUED OR PURCHASES HAVE BEEN PAID FOR FOR A BUCKET TRUCK AND THE ASPHALT ZIPPER MACHINE. FOR THE GOLF COURSE, MEMBERSHIPS RENEWED IN OCTOBER AND THEY ARE AT 70.2% OF THE BUDGET ENCUMBRANCES HAVE BEEN ISSUED TO THE TWO FAIRWAY NUMBERS. DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? [8. PUBLIC COMMENT REGARDING ITEMS NOT ON THE AGENDA OR ITEMS ON THE CONSENT AGENDA] >> ANY QUESTIONS FOR MS. TESTAGROSE? PUBLIC COMMENTS FOR ITEMS NOT ON THE AGENDA. MR. SHARP? SORRY ABOUT THE FAKE OUT EARLIER. >> I AM MICHAEL SHARP, 130 NORTH NINTH STREET IN FERNANDINA BEACH, SPEAKING ON BEHALF OF THE ADVISORY BOARD CONGRATULATIONS TO OUR NEWLY ELECTED COMMISSIONERS AND OUR NEW MAYOR. THE MARINA ADVISORY BOARD HAS ASKED ME TO BE THE FIRST PERSON AS CITY COMMISSION MEETINGS AND SPEAK ON THEIR BEHALF. I WILL COME HERE REGULARLY TO DO THAT. COMMISSIONER TUTEN ATTENDED THE MEETING LAST NIGHT AND WE APPRECIATE HER PRESENCE . SHE GAVE SOME REAL COMMONSENSE ANSWERS TO REAL QUESTIONS WITHOUT A LOT OF POLITICAL NONSENSE INVOLVED. I HOPE THAT THIS NEW COMMISSION WILL USE THIS OPPORTUNITY TO REEVALUATE SOME OF THE DECISIONS MADE BY THE PREVIOUS COMMISSION , NAMELY, THE MARINA ADVISORY BOARD RECOMMENDS AGAINST THE PLAN TO LOTS C AND D IN THE PRESENCE FORM AS IT WILL ADVERSELY AFFECT THE WORKING WATERFRONT CONCEPT THAT IS SUPPOSEDLY IMPORTANT TO US . THIS PART IS BEING BUILT FOR TOURISTS, TIME TO TAKE CARE OF OUR LOCALS FIRST. THERE ARE A COUPLE OF YOU , BECAUSE THE TAXPAYERS PERCEPTION WAS THAT WE WERE NOT BEING HEARD, WE TRY TO SAY -- THE IMMEDIATE CONCERN IS THAT , OF THE PARK INSTRUCTION MOVING FORWARD, THAT THE BEGINNING OF THAT PLAN FOR C AND D, CONFLICTS WITH THE MARINA FUEL TANK REPLACEMENT PLAN FOR LOT A. THE PLAN WAS TO [00:30:07] MOVE THE TRAFFIC TO LOT C AND D. THOSE WILL CONFLICT . WE SHOULD HOLD OFF ON DOING ANYTHING UNTIL YOU REEVALUATE. I APPRECIATE YOUR SUGGESTION THAT WE SHOULD THINK ABOUT REPLACING SOME OF THE GRASS WITH GRAVEL , THAT SEEMS LIKE A GOOD IDEA, TOO. I THINK YOU SHOULD HIT THE PAUSE BUTTON ON THE PARK UNTIL YOU LOOK AT IT AGAIN. THAT BOARD AS THE CITIES FOR OPPORTUNITIES TO KEEP THE BUILDING IN PLACE AND REPAIRED THE UNDERLYING STRUCTURE. I HAVE BEEN IN CONTACT WITH A COMPANY THAT SPECIALIZES IN NETWORK AND I HOPE TO MEET WITH EACH OF YOU TO DISCUSS THAT. IT HAS BEEN A LANDMARK FOR DECADES AND SIMPLY RIDICULOUS TO TEAR IT DOWN IN FAVOR OF A VIEWING PLATFORM WITHOUT AT LEAST HAVING THE COST -- THE REPLACEMENT . EVERY TIME I HAVE ASKED THAT QUESTION, THE ANSWER HAS BEEN, I SAID, HOW MUCH IS THE COST, THEY SAY, TOO MUCH, BUT WHAT IS THAT NUMBER. NO REAL ANSWER. LET'S GET A NUMBER LET'S AT LEAST EVALUATE TO SEE IF IT IS WORTH SAVING THAT LANDMARK. THE CITY LIKES THAT AND WE DO NOT WANT YOU TO TEAR IT DOWN. I DO NOT BELIEVE OUR TAXPAYERS WANT YOU TO TEAR IT DOWN IT COULD POTENTIALLY PRODUCE REVENUE WITH A NEW LEASE, WHAT YOU SPENT $2.5 MILLION, THAT IS THE NUMBERS FROM CHIP ROSS, TO REPLACE IT WITH A VIEWING PLATFORM NOBODY WANTS FOR OTHER MATTERS, I WILL SPEAK WITH YOU AT A LATER DATE AND WILL LIKE TO SPEAK WITH YOU ON IMPORTANT MATTERS. >> THANK YOU. I BELIEVE THAT MAY PROPPED OPEN DISCUSSION FOR THE WORKSHOP FUTURE DECISION ON WHAT PUBLIC INPUT COULD BE ON THE FATE OF THAT STRUCTURE. DO I SENSE ANY CONSENSUS? >> YEAH. >> I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE TIMING WOULD BE ON THAT YOU HAVE TO BRING PEOPLE INTO EVALUATE IT AND I WOULD IMAGINE, WRITE UP STATS ON HOW YOU WILL REPAIR THIS AND IT WILL GO UP FOR QUALIFYING REPAIRS. NOT JUST TALK, WE HAVE TO COME UP WITH A NUMBER. IF THE COMMISSION WAS TO DO THIS, WE HAVE TO GIVE DIRECTION ON CITY STAFF REGARDING HOW THEY WILL GO ABOUT GETTING AN ACTUAL NUMBER. >> DO WE HAVE A CONSENSUS TO MAKE A WORKSHOP TO DISCUSS THAT IN JANUARY PERHAPS? >> YES. >> CITY CLERK, CAN WE PLEASE SET A WORKSHOP IN JANUARY FOR THAT? THANK YOU. NEXT, FRED PUGH. >> I AM AT 1552 RUSKIN LANE. CONGRATULATIONS TO THE NEW COMMISSIONERS AND NEW MAYOR, JOHN ABBOTT COULD NOT BE HERE THIS EVENING AND ASKED ME TO SPEAK ON BEHALF OF OUR CLUB. THIS WEEKEND, WE HAD OUR INTERNATIONAL TOURNAMENT, THE 16TH YEAR FOR THE TOURNAMENT ON AMELIA ISLAND IN FERNANDINA BEACH. WE HAD TEAMS THAT174 REPRESENTED 27 STATES AND EIGHT COUNTRIES. THAT IS 174 TEAMS, THAT IS 360 PEOPLE AND ENTOURAGES THAT CAME WITH THEM BECAUSE THEY LOVE FERNANDINA BEACH. A LOT OF PEOPLE CAME AND STAYED IN HOTELS . THEY WENT TO THE RESTAURANT AND THEY SHOPPED. ON FRIDAY, 32 WOMEN'S TEAMS COMPETED IN A DOUBLES COMPETITION. ALL HOSTED BY THE AMELIA ISLAND BULL'S CLUB, AND WE WANT TO THANK THE CITY FOR HELP IN PREPARING THE PARKING LOT. THE REASON I CAME THIS EVENING IS BECAUSE IT IS A NEW COMMISSION AND WE WOULD ASK, ON BEHALF OF THE AMELIA ISLAND BOWLS CLUB , YOU RECONSIDER MOVING THE COURTS FROM THE MARINA. IN OUR MIND , IT MAKES NO SENSE, WE HAVE LOOKED AT OTHER ALTERNATIVES, SOMEWHERE BETWEEN 70 AND $100,000 TO REBUILD THOSE COURTS. AND THE CURRENT PLAN IS TO PLANT GRASS SO THAT GOLF CARTS CAN PARK ON THEM. YOU CAN LEAVE THE COURTS AND , THE TIMES YOU NEED GOLF CARTS TO PARK, DURING THE SHRIMP FESTIVAL, THE CLUB HAS BEEN MORE THAN WILLING TO SHARE THE SPACE . IT DOES NOT MAKE SENSE, FISCALLY , TO MOVE THOSE [00:35:04] COURTS WHEN CURRENTLY , IF YOU GO DOWN DURING THE WEEK OR ON WEEKENDS AND COUNT THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE, OTHER THAN PETANQUE PLAYERS ON THE WATERFRONT, OTHER THAN BOATERS, IT IS THE PETANQUE PLAYERS THAT ARE THERE AND WE HAS TO BE RECONSIDERED . WITH THAT, THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU. SHIELA? >> THEY RECEIVED SOMETHING FROM MAYOR STURGIS, HE SAID MULTIPLE WAS BUT ONE OF THOSE STANDS OUT, A PHOTO OF VICE MAYOR STURGIS AND TWO CITY POLICE OFFICERS. PART OF THIS CAMPAIGN INCLUDED A PROFESSIONALLY SHOT VIDEO OF THE SAME IMAGE WITH OUR OFFICERS AND VICE MAYOR. I AM ASSUMING THAT THIS WAS TO CONFIRM HE HAD POLICE SUPPORT. THE SITUATION WAS BROUGHT UP BY A CITIZEN AT A RECENT MEETING. THE FERNANDINA BEACH OBSERVER COVER THE STORY AND THE POLICE CHIEF ISSUED A STATEMENT OUTLINING HIS INSTRUCTIONS TO THE OFFICERS AND THE CITY ATTORNEY, THEY QUICKLY RETURNING OUTSIDE COUNSEL TO RENDER AN OPINION OF THE IMPROPRIETY OF THE OFFICERS APPEARING IN A CAMPAIGN AD. I WAS ADVISED BY THE INTERIM CITY MANAGER THAT THERE WAS NOTHING TO ADDRESS REGARDING ANY POTENTIAL CHARTER VIOLATIONS. I COME BEFORE YOU TO REQUEST THAT A FORMAL INDEPENDENT INVESTIGATION BE OPEN TO FURTHER LOOK INTO THIS MATTER. THERE ARE SEVERAL ISSUES I FEEL NEED TO BE ADDRESSED. THE INFORMATION PROVIDED TO THE OUTSIDE COUNSEL BY THE CITY ATTORNEY WAS LEAVING AN INCOMPLETE. I ASKED THE INTERIM CITY MANAGER IF THE VICE MAYOR WAS IN VIOLATION OF THE CHARTER BECAUSE HE WAS MEETINGWITH THE CHIEF REGARDING MULTIPLE ISSUES RELATED TO THE CITY. THEY MET TO REQUEST USE OF OFFICERS AFTER THE POLICE UNION HAD DENIED HIS ENDORSEMENT REQUEST. THE CHIEF , ON CITY TIME, REQUESTED AND COORDINATED OFFICERS TO PARTICIPATE IN THE VIDEO WHICH IS A VIOLATION OF A STATE STATUTE. THE CHIEF HAS SAID THAT THE OFFICERS IN THE VIDEO CANNOT BE IDENTIFIED AS FERNANDINA BEACH POLICE OFFICERS . HE ALSO STATED THAT THE OFFICERS WERE TO BE OFF DUTY WHEN PARTICIPATING. I HAVE THE FLYER HERE I SENT YOU SOME PHOTOS. CAN YOU PULL THAT UP? >> PAUSE THE TIME? >> YES. >> I WILL KEEP GOING, I MET WITH THE CHIEF AT HIS REQUEST TO DISCUSS THIS MATTER AND HE SAID, IF HE HAD TO DO IT OVER AGAIN, HE WOULD NOT, YOU WELCOME THE IDEA OF AN INDEPENDENT INVESTIGATION AS WELL. IN OUR DISCUSSION, HE CAN ONLY REMEMBER ONE OF THE TOPICS DISCUSSED WITH THE VICE MAYOR WHICH WAS, INCREASING PATROLS FOR DOWNTOWN BUSINESSES . I BELIEVE THAT IS A CHARTER VIOLATION. ADDITIONALLY, I HAVE MADE MULTIPLE REQUESTS FOR RECORDS ASSOCIATED WITH THE LOCATION OF THE OFFICER'S CARS AND THEIR TIME LOGS FOR THE DAY OF THE FILMING THE REQUEST CAME BACK WITH NO RECORDS AVAILABLE. I AM AWARE OF THE DATE OF THE FILMING BUT THE CHIEF REFUSED TO SHARE IT WITH ME AND I AM STILL WAITING FOR ANSWERS TO THE SECOND PUBLIC RECORDS REQUEST I MADE WITH MORE SPECIFIC REQUESTS. I ALSO HAVE PICTURES FROM THE FERNANDINA BEACH POLICE DEPARTMENT FACEBOOK PAGE THAT SHOWS OFFICERS ON DUTY IN THE EXACT UNIFORMS PICTURED IN THE FLYER WHICH SHE IS PULLING UP. IT IS EXACTLY THE SAME. OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT DOES A GREAT JOB IN COMMUNITY POLICING, THEY ARE OUT IN THE COMMUNITY AND LOOK LIKE THIS. THIS PICTURE DID WHAT IT WAS INTENDED TO DO. I FEEL LIKE THIS IS IMPROPRIETY AND ABUSE OF POWER ON BOTH THE VICE MAYOR AND THE CHIEF. HE WORKS AT A DEPARTMENT WHERE THE CHAIN OF COMMAND IS IMPORTANT AND, EVEN SUGGESTIONS COULD BE INTERPRETED AS ORDERS TO HIS SUBORDINATES. IN NO WAY SHOULD ANYTHING LIKE THIS HAPPEN AGAIN AND WE SHOULD LOOK AT WHAT IS GOING ON AND I REQUEST THAT YOU [00:40:03] PLEASE LOOK INTO THIS FURTHER. THESE MATTERS SHOULD BE RECONSIDERED WITH MORE SCRUTINY AND NOT A FAST ATTEMPT TO SWEEP IT UNDER THE RUG AND OBSTRUCT PUBLIC INFORMATION . I APPRECIATE YOUR CONSIDERATION. >> CAN YOU PLEASE COMMENT ABOUT WHAT IT WOULD REQUIRE FOR THE INVESTIGATION ? >> THERE IS A SECTION OF OUR CHARTER, SECTION 136, OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD, THAT SAYS THE CITY COMMISSION TO CONDUCT INVESTIGATIONS ABOUT CITY STAFF, OTHER BOARD MEMBERS, OTHER CITY COMMISSIONERS, AND THERE IS NOT A PROCESS , BUT IT IS A PARAGRAPH THAT TALKS ABOUT IT . THERE DOES NOT HAVE TO BE A SPECIFIC REASON BUT THE COMMISSION HAS THAT AUTHORITY. >> WHAT WOULD BE THE COST TO THE CITY TO CARRY OUT SUCH AN INVESTIGATION? >> THE COST, IT IS INTERNAL UNLESS YOU WANTED TO HIRE EXPERTS OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT FROM OUTSIDE THE CITY. IT IS INTERNAL, CITY STAFF. >> SHE ASKED FOR AN INDEPENDENT INVESTIGATION. WHAT KIND OF FIRM DOES WORK LIKE THAT ? >> I WOULD HAVE TO THINK ABOUT IT I DON'T KNOW BECAUSE WE'VE NEVER DONE ANYTHING LIKE THAT I WOULD HAVE TO GET BACK TO THE CITY COMMISSION ON WHAT TYPE OF INDEPENDENT INVESTIGATION. >> VICE MAYOR AYSCUE? >> WHAT VIOLATIONS ARE ALLEGED, CHARTER VIOLATION AND THE STATE STATUTE ? >> I BELIEVE THAT IS WHAT SHE WAS DATING, YES >> VIOLATION OF STATE STATUTE , FILE AN ETHICS COMPLAINT. BEING SURE YOU KNOW WHAT YOUR FILING WHEN YOU FILE IT, BECAUSE IF IT IS FALSE ELECTIONS COMPLAINT, YOU COULD BE SUED. FILE AN ETHICS COMPLAINT. >> IF YOU WOULD NOT MIND FINDING THAT INFORMATION AND WE WILL CIRCLE BACK . THANK YOU. NEXT, JANICE. >> HELLO, 2809 OCEANVIEW COURT. CONGRATULATIONS TO THE NEW COMMISSIONERS. I AM SPEAKING ON THE READING FOR THE PROCLAMATION TITLE TRANSGENDER DAY OF REMEMBRANCE . THE THIRD-YEAR THIS RIDICULOUS PROCLAMATION WAS READ IN OUR FERNANDINA BEACH CITY COUNCIL MEETING, THIS PROCLAMATION IS BASED ON THE 1998 MURDER OF A 32-YEAR-OLD TRANSGENDER MAN. THE POLICE STILL HAVE NO MOTIVE FOR THE MURDER OF THE PERSON OR ANY IDEA OF WHAT ACTIONS LED TO HIS MURDER BUT THE POLICE TO BELIEVE WHOEVER MURDERED HIM TO HIM BECAUSE THERE WAS NO FORCED ENTRY INTO HIS APARTMENT. THE MURDER HAS NEVER BEEN SOLVED BUT THIS PROCLAMATION TELLS US THAT THIS MAN WAS KILLED BECAUSE OF "ANTI-TRANSGENDER HATRED AND PREJUDICE ." THIS PROCLAMATION GOES ON TO STATE THAT WE NEED TO MEMORIALIZE THOSE WHO HAVE TRAGICALLY DIED SIMPLY FOR BEING WHAT THEY ARE , TRANSGENDER. THIS PROCLAMATION IS ACTIVISM AND GAS LIGHTING. THE CITY OF FERNANDINA BEACH , THE COMMISSIONERS, AND THE MAYOR SHOULD NOT BE PART OF GAS LIGHTING OR SPREADING FALSE INFORMATION IN OUR COMMUNITY. WHICH IS EXACTLY WHAT THIS PROCLAMATION REPRESENTS. WE ALL KNOW THAT , IN THE CITY OF FERNANDINA BEACH, THE STATE OF FLORIDA, AND IN THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, TRANSGENDER PEOPLE ARE NOT RANDOMLY BEING MURDERED BY ANGRY AND PREJUDICE STRAIGHT MEN. IN OUR COUNTRY, IF AN ADULT MALE WAS TO DRESS UP LIKE A WOMAN, EXACTLY WHAT THEY CAN DO. >> NO COMMENTS FROM THE CHAMBERS . >> IN OUR COUNTRY, IF AN ADULT MALE WAS TO DRESS UP LIKE A WOMAN, THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT HE CAN DO, NO ONE IS STOPPING HIM. THAT DOES NOT MEAN OTHER PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY HAD TO ACCEPT THAT BEHAVIOR AS NORMAL BECAUSE IT IS NOT AND WE ALL KNOW IT. THE PROBLEM HERE -- WHEN WE NORMALIZE DYSFUNCTIONAL BEHAVIOR TO OUR CHILDREN, WE DO THEM GREAT HARM. AS A PARENT OF THREE CHILDREN, I HAVE GREAT EMPATHY FOR PARENTS WHOSE CHILDREN ARE CAUGHT UP IN THIS TRANSGENDER CONTAGION WHICH IS RUNNING RAMPANT IN OUR SCHOOLS AND COLLEGES. THIS IS A MENTAL HEALTH ISSUE AND NEEDS TO BE TREATED THAT WAY. TRANSITION SURGERIES TAKING HORMONES OR DRESSING LIKE THE OPPOSITE SEX WILL NOT SOLVE THESE MENTAL HEALTH PROBLEMS . NO HUMAN CAN CHANGE HIS OR HER SEX NO MATTER HOW THE SURGERIES THEY HAVE OR HOW MANY HORMONES THEY ADJUST FROM BIRTH, OUR BODIES ARE WIRED AS A MAN OR WOMAN AND TRANSITION SURGERIES OR HORMONES CAUSE PERMANENT PHYSICAL HARM LEADING TO A LIFETIME OF MEDICAL PROBLEMS. IT IS TIME FOR OUR CITY LEADERS TO STOP BENDING THE KNEE TO WOKE LEFT HIS ACTIVIST IN OUR [00:45:02] COMMUNITY AND ON THIS COMMISSION. MANY CITIZENS ARE AFRAID TO SPEAK UP BECAUSE OF THE VERY VOCAL AND WELL-ORGANIZED AND OFTEN HATEFUL BLOWBACK THEY RECEIVE FROM THESE ACTIVISTS IN OUR TOWN. I AM NOT AFRAID TO SPEAK UP. ENOUGH IS ENOUGH. I AM GLAD TO HEAR THAT THERE WILL BE NO MORE TRANSGENDER DAY REMEMBERS PROCLAMATIONS READ AS CITY MEETINGS AND I ASK THAT WE HAVE NO MORE DRAG QUEENS IN OUR CITY PARADES. THANK YOU. >> WE WILL KEEP POSITIVE DECORUM , CLAPPING OR DOING IS NOT WELCOME. >> THANK YOU. CONGRATULATIONS TO EVERYONE SITTING BEHIND THE DAY AS. I HOPE YOU WILL REPRESENT THE CITIZENS OF FERNANDINA BEACH WELL AND I TRUST YOU WILL. FIRST OF ALL, I WANT TO MAKE IT PERFECTLY CLEAR, THE TRANSGENDER COMMUNITY, AND ALL THE INDIVIDUALS DESERVE ALL THE PROTECTIONS -- >> NAME AND ADDRESS. >> ALAN HOPKINS, I LIVE HERE IN FERNANDINA BEACH. LET ME BE PERFECTLY CLEAR, THE TRANSGENDER COMMUNITY AND ALL THE INDIVIDUALS IN IT DESERVE ALL THE PROTECTIONS EVERY OTHER CITIZEN IN THIS COUNTRY HAVE . THERE SHOULD BE NO DISCRIMINATION OR FAVORITISM BY OUR GOVERNMENT BASED ON SEXUALITY OR IDENTITY. FOUR YEARS AGO WHEN WE MOVED HERE, THE FIRST PERSON I MET WAS A REAL ESTATE INVESTOR. HE DID NOT KNOW HE WAS GOING TO WORK WITH ME BECAUSE HE KNEW I WAS FROM SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA AND HE THOUGHT MY VALUES DID NOT MATCH UP WITH HIS. WELL, WE ARE NOW REALLY GOOD FRIENDS BECAUSE I MOVED HERE BECAUSE OF THE VALUES AND THE CULTURE THAT FERNANDINA BEACH HAS AND I HOPE CONTINUES TO HAVE. WHAT I'M AFRAID OF, THOSE VALUES AND THE CULTURE WILL BE CHANGED IRREPARABLY BECAUSE OF WHAT IS GOING ON IN OUR CITY NOW. I AM NOT TALKING ABOUT WHETHER A PROPERTY OWNER CAN BUILD FOUR UNITS INSTEAD OF TWO UNITS ON HIS LOT . THAT WILL NOT CHANGE THE CULTURE OR WHO WE ARE AS PEOPLE IN THIS COMMUNITY. I DO NOT CARE WHAT CONSENTING ADULTS DO IN THEIR OWN HOME. WHAT I DO CARE ABOUT IS THE MORAL FABRIC OF OUR COMMUNITY. I HOPE ALL OF YOU DO AS WELL. WHEN WE REFUSE TO PROTECT THE CHILDREN , FROM -- WE ARE NOT ONLY BE FALSE TO OUR COMMUNITY BUT BEING FALSE TO OURSELVES. OUR CITY HAS 14,000 RESIDENTS , IT HAS A BUDGET OF OVER $150 BILLION. IT HAS OVER 200 EMPLOYEES. THIS IS YOUR FIRST ACT? PLEASE, DO NOT TURN THE CITY INTO WHAT I ESCAPE FROM WHEN I LEFT CALIFORNIA. GOD BLESS YOU , GOD BLESS OUR COMMUNITY. THANK YOU. >> MS. KELLY YATES. >> I LIVE ON THE ISLAND, 670 SPANISH WAY EAST. FORGIVE ME WHILE I READ FOR MY PAPER, I AM A CONCERNED CHRISTIAN AND MOTHER, MY CONCERN IS WOMEN AND CHILDREN, SAVE SPACE RIGHTS AND PUBLIC SAFETY. FOUR YEARS AGO, FERNANDINA BEACH PRIDE POSTED THE FIRST EVENT IN CENTRAL PARK, IT TARGETED CHILDREN USING CUTE DOGS WITH BOWS, THE EVENT WAS HOSTED INSIDE THE CHILDREN'S PLAY AREA WHICH WAS DELIBERATE. THE EVENT WAS NEFARIOUSLY SPONSORED BY BAPTIST HOSPITAL AND U.S. HEALTH WHO WERE AT THE TIME PERFORMING CHILD MUTILATION SURGERIES. THE EVENT SAW DRAG QUEENS , ALSO KNOWN AS , AND FIVE ADULT WEARING SADOMASOCHISM BDM DOG MASKS, THIS IS INDECENT EXPOSURE AND DOES NOT BELONG IN A CHILDREN'S PARK. THE PEOPLE OF NASSAU COUNTY , FLORIDA DESERVE MUCH BETTER. PUBLIC SAFETY AND DECENCY IS IN JEOPARDY WE ARE SEEING DISASTROUS CONSEQUENCES WITH THE GENERAL SURGERIES ON HEALTHY YOUNG BOYS AND GIRLS CUTTING UP PERFECTLY HEALTHY BODY PARTS TO THE TRANSITION IS WHO HAVE BEEN HURT BY THIS INSANE IDEOLOGY. TRANS ACTIVISTS ARE INTIMIDATING CITY OFFICIALS BY USING THEIR DEMONIC AGENDA IN THE GUISE OF HUMAN RIGHTS TO FORCE THEIR SEXUALLY EXPLICIT AGENDA UPON THE PUBLIC. WE DO NOT HAVE A PROBLEM WITH GAY PEOPLE HOLDING HANDS WALKING DOWN THE STREET LIVING A LIFE TOGETHER, THE PROBLEM IS DISCUSSING SEX AND [00:50:01] ACTING OUT YOUR SEXUAL FETISH IN FRONT OF CHILDREN. THE PROBLEM IS SEXUAL EVIL PREDATORS WHO TELL CHILDREN GOD MADE A MISTAKE AND THEY MUST MAKE A RADICAL DECISION TO STERILIZE AND CHOP UP THEIR BODY PARTS AND TAKE PUBERTY BLOCKERS THAT ARE NORMALLY GIVEN TO PEDOPHILES AND PEOPLE DYING OF CANCER. THE PEOPLE OF NASSAU COUNTY SHOULD REJECT THE SUBJECT AND TO PERVERSION BDSM, DRAG QUEENS, WHICH PROMOTES PUBLIC INDECENCY. THE AGE REQUIREMENT TO GO INTO AN ADULT SEX OR IS 18 YEARS OF AGE, YET FERNANDINA BEACH ALLOWS SEXUAL EXPOSURE OF THE LGBTQ SEXUAL FETISH AND EXPOSURE IN PUBLIC SPACES UNDER THE AGE OF 18. WE NEED TO BAN BDSM, AND DRAG QUEENS FROM CHILDREN'S PARKS, FORMER PRESIDENT MINSHEW -- THE CURRENT TREASURE HID FROM HER CONSTITUENTS IN THE AFFILIATION WITH FERNANDINA BEACH WHILE RUNNING. THIS VICIOUS DEGRADING ASSAULT ON OUR COMMUNITY DOES NOT BELONG IN THE PUBLIC DISPLAY AND CERTAINLY NOT ANYWHERE NEAR CHILDREN. I WILL BE ASKING PEOPLE TO SIGN A BAN TRANSSEXUALS AND DRIVEWAYS FROM NASSAU COUNTY CHILDREN'S PARKS AND GO TO CHANGE.ORG SO THE PEOPLE'S VOICES ARE HEARD LOUD AND CLEAR , SO CHANGE THE COMMON GOOD AND COMMON SENSE IN A CIVIL SOCIETY. >> FOLKS, I UNDERSTAND YOU MAY NOT AGREE WITH THE VIEWPOINTS BUT EVERYBODY HAS THE RIGHT TO SAY WHAT THEY FEEL I WILL ASK ONE MORE FOR DECORUM IN THE CHAMBERS, PLEASE. MR. CAMERON ROSS? >> GOOD EVENING TO 3435 , FERNANDINA BEACH, I DO NOT LIVE WITHIN THE CITY BUT VERY HAPPY TO BE HERE TONIGHT . >> FOLKS, PLEASE. >> THANK YOU. I WOULD LIKE TO ADD MY CONGRATULATIONS TO THE NEW COMMISSIONERS AND THOSE OF YOU WHO WON ELECTIONS. NOW COMES THE HARD PART . AS MUCH AS IT WAS FUN TO RUN FOR OFFICE. FIRST OFF, I AM COMPELLED TO COMMENT , I WOULD LIKE TO SEE US TRY TO FIND SOURCES OF COMMON GROUND INSTEAD OF DERISION AND NASTINESS. AS A PEOPLE, WE CAN DO BETTER. I THINK THE TIME FOR BOLD ACTION FOR THIS COMMISSION IS UPON US, BECAUSE, ONE OF THE BIGGEST ISSUES YOU RAN ON WAS THE PROPOSAL, SOME OF YOU MAY NOT BE SITTING ON THE COMMISSION IF THAT HAD NOT BEEN AN ISSUE FROM THE CITY AND YOU HAD NOT TAKEN THE POSITIONS YOU DID. I CANNOT PROVE IT BUT THAT IS THE WAY I FEEL. I WOULD LIKE TO SHARE SOME OBSERVATIONS AND RECOMMENDATIONS. FIRST OBSERVATION, THERE APPEARS TO BE CONSIDERABLE EVIDENCE THAT A MANUFACTURING PLANT PROPOSED AS THIS IS, IS NOT ALLOWED UNDER THE LDC. THE CITY HIRED A CREDIBLE LEGAL FIRM TO INVESTIGATE THIS AND THEIR OPINION WAS ANYTHING BUT AMBIGUOUS AND IT WAS VERY CLEAR, THEY SAID IT IS NOT ALLOWED WITHIN THE CITY. CHEMICAL MANUFACTURING IS NOT ALLOWED AND THIS IS CHEMICAL MANUFACTURING. WHILE THEY MAY WANT TO SPLICE AND SPLIT WHETHER IT IS CHEMICAL OR BIOLOGICAL OR BIOCHEMICAL, I LOOK BACK -- I ENCOURAGE YOU TO LOOK AT THE LDC TOLANGUAGE OF THE UNDERSTAND THE SPIRIT OF THE LAW, THE WORD CHEMICAL DOES NOT NEED TO BE SUPER SPECIFIC FOLLOWING THE TOWN HALL IN THIS VERY CHAMBER, THE NEXT DAY, A LEGAL BARRAGE , BOWLING THE APPELLANT TO DROP THE AIR PERMIT COMPLAINT FOR FEAR OF FINANCIAL RUIN. RIGHT AFTER WAXING ELOQUENTLY RIGHT HERE ABOUT THEIR SOCIAL GENEROSITY TO FERNANDINA BEACH , THEY WENT NUCLEAR WHY WOULD YOU DO THAT IF THE PROJECT IS AS GOOD AND HONEST AS YOU CLAIM IT IS? IT IS NOT CONSISTENT. YOU HAVE CONSIDERABLE COMMUNITY SUPPORT, USE IT. A MEETING LAST WEEK , FOLKS THAT GATHERED AROUND LOOKING FOR WAYS TO HELP YOU WIN THIS BATTLE. REACH OUT TO US AND LET US HELP, FIND SOMEONE TO HELP LIAISE, I DON'T KNOW THE PROPER LEGAL WAY, BUT THE CITIZENRY TO COMPETE -- COMMITTED WITH THE [00:55:01] COMMISSIONER THROUGH THE CITY ATTORNEY, WHATEVER, THE CHALLENGE IS TO TURN OVER EVERY STONE AND STOP THIS PROJECT FOR A FULL AND INDEPENDENT REVIEW. PUT IT ON PAUL'S. ASK -- PUT IT ON PAUSE AND ASK THEM TO ADD DOLLARS AND GET THEM TO PAY FOR THE INDEPENDENT REVIEW, $100,000, $150,000, WE SHOULD DEMAND THE INVESTOR PROVED TO US THAT WHAT THEY ARE SAYING IS TRUE. THANK YOU. >> NEXT, LIBBY. >> HELLO, I LIVE AT 138 NORTH 19TH STREET IN FERNANDINA BEACH. I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING PREPARED BUT I WANT TO WELCOME THE NEW COMMISSIONERS , THE NEW MAYOR, ASSISTANT COMMISSIONER, AND I AM VERY PROUD TO LIVE IN THIS COMMUNITY. I FIND IT A LITTLE CHALLENGING WITH THE ISSUES THAT WE JUST DISCUSSED ABOUT GENDER. BUT I JUST WANT TO SAY, AS A MENTAL HEALTH PROVIDER, I DO NOT BELIEVE IT IS A MENTAL HEALTH ISSUE THAT TRANSGENDER AND LGBTQ PEOPLE HAVE. I WOULD LIKE TO COMMENT ON THAT BECAUSE I'VE DONE PROFESSIONAL TRAINING YEARS AGO WHEN PEOPLE WERE FIRST COMING OUT AS HOMOSEXUALS. THERE WAS A LOT OF CONTROVERSY THEN AND IT WAS DISCUSSED BY THE PSYCHIATRIC COMMUNITY AND PEOPLE WERE HARASSED AND DECLARED TO THE MENTAL HEALTH PROBLEMS . THERE WAS A LOT OF PSYCHIATRY AND INTERVENTION WHICH NEVER REALLY PROVED ANYTHING. IT IS NOT A MENTAL HEALTH DISORDER, IT IS A CHOICE THAT PEOPLE MAKE. OR FEEL THEY ARE BORN WITH. THE WORST THING IN THE WORLD IS TO SHAME PEOPLE FOR WHO THEY ARE. IT LEADS TO MENTAL HEALTH PROBLEMS, IF THERE IS DEPRESSION AND ANXIETY, IF YOU SHAME SOMEONE FOR BEING WHO THEY REALLY ARE A PHYSICALLY AND EMOTIONALLY, IT LEADS TO MUCH MORE SEVERE MENTAL HEALTH ISSUES , LIKE SUICIDE. I REALLY JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY THAT I REALLY THINK THAT YOU ARE MISNAMING IT, REFERRING TO IT AS A MENTAL HEALTH DISORDER. >> THANK YOU. WE HAVE OUR CONSENT AGENDA. DO WE HAVE ANY OTHER PUBLIC COMMENTS NOT ON THE AGENDA? >> RICHARD DEAN, FERNANDINA BEACH , CONGRATULATIONS TO YOU ALL. I LOOK FORWARD TO WORKING WITH YOU AND OTHER MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITY I SPEAK ABOUT THE ETHANOL PLANT, BALANCING COMPETING INTEREST IS THE ESSENCE OF GOVERNMENT. SUBSTANTIAL MAJORITY OF CITIZENS IN THIS TOWN HAVE REGISTERED THEIR OPPOSITION TO THE ETHANOL PLANT , PROPERTY ADJACENT NEAR OUR HISTORIC DISTRICT, OUR ECONOMIC ENGINE. NEXT TO OUR WATERWAYS. RYAM'S OFFICIALS HAVE DOWNPLAYED RISK TO THE COMMUNITY AS A THERE IS NO DIFFERENT BETWEEN A PLANT AND A LIQUOR DISTILLERY, THAT NOTION IS LUDICROUS, GIVEN THE ESSENCE OF FIRES AND EXPLOSIONS AT ETHANOL FACILITIES. THEY PRESENTED A PRESENTATION WITH SLIDES AND PUBLIC SAFETY CONCERNS WITH ASSERTIONS THAT EXPERTS WOULD NOT PUT THEIR CAREERS AND RISK IF THIS WAS NOT THE CASE. MISSING FROM THE PRESENTATION WERE ASSUMPTIONS AND SCENARIOS LEADING TO THEIR CONCLUSIONS. AS WAS POINTED OUT, THE BEST DESIGNED SYSTEMS TO FAIL , YOU KNOW ABOUT THE TITANIC , THE CHALLENGER, THE COLUMBIA DISASTERS. RYAM WAS GIVEN I DEPRESSION THE EXPLOSION WOULD BE CONFINED TO THE CHAMBER WHERE THE ETHANOL IS MANUFACTURED, REAL-WORLD EVENTS , HUMAN ERROR AND UNFORESEEN FACTORS HAVE DEFEATED THE PLANS THAT THEY SUGGEST ARE GOING TO MAKE EVERYTHING HUNKY-DORY. TRENT -- RYAM HAS USED INTIMIDATION TO GET THEIR VOTE . WE SHOULD EXPECT RYAM TO THREATEN THE CITY WITH A MULTIMILLION DOLLAR [01:00:04] DAMAGE SUIT IF THEY DON'T GET THEIR WAY. THE CITY IS NOT DEFENSELESS, BUILDING DEVELOPMENT CODE, THE CITY SHOULD REQUIRE, AS WAS INDICATED EARLIER, RYAM TO PAY FOR A TRULY INDEPENDENT AND COMPREHENSIVE PUBLIC SAFETY RISK ASSESSMENT, SUCH A WIDE-RANGING EVALUATION SHOULD EXPLORE A NUMBER OF US -- ASSUMPTIONS AND THREATS, TOXIC GASES, DAMAGE TO MARINE PLANT LIFE, WHETHER EVENTS THAT COMPLICATE EXPLOSIONS AND LEAKS . THE RISK OF FIRE BEYOND RYAM PROPERTY , STORAGE TANK AND FACILITY LEAKS, FIRES AND ACCIDENTS DURING ETHANOL TRANSPORTATION. I DO NOT THINK IT IS TOO MUCH TO ASK FOR RYAM TO FOOT THE BILL FOR AN INDEPENDENT STUDY AND IT WILL BE AN IMPORTANT ELEMENT IN THE TOOLBOX OF THE CITY IN DEALING WITH THIS ISSUE. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. >> THANK YOU MR. DEAN. PLEASE FILL OUT A FORM. >> YOU PROMISED AN EXCITING CITY COMMISSION AND YOU DELIVERED SO FAR. RYAM -- LAUGHTER ] YOU HAVE THE PAPERWORK, I WILL NOT GO OVER EVERY DETAIL, THIS IS ABOUT A RIVERWALK BOARDWALK GOING NORTH FROM A RESTAURANT AND CONTINUING NORTH, PARALLEL TO FRONT STREET. THAT WOULD CREATE A BRAND-NEW SPACE FOR CITY REPRESENTATIVES AND TOURIST THAT ARE A PART OF OUR COMMUNITY. I WILL SECOND MR. SHARP'S REQUEST TO PUT THE CURRENT PLAN FOR LOTS C AND D ON HOLD AS WE WILL NEED THT THAT -- PARKING SPACE, FRONT STREET, WHEN IT IS DEVELOPED , THOSE BUSINESSES WILL, NATURALLY, RESTAURANTS , SALOONS, IT WILL CREATE MORE DEMAND FOR PARKING BECAUSE THEY WILL NOT HAVE ENOUGH SPACE THERE. ACCORDING TO THE CITY STATUTE, CITY ORDINANCE, THE LAND CODE, THEY WILL NEED TO USE PUBLIC PARKING AND TO WITHINTHEY ARE ALLOWED 300 TO 500 FEET AND WE WILL NEED ALL THE PARKING SPACES . MOVING UP TO 50 PARKING SPACS FOR THE FLEXIBILITY TO SHOW UP WHEN WE NEED IT IS VITAL. INCREASING THE GRASS AREA DOES NOT MAKE SENSE FOR CITY PEOPLE WHO WANT TO PARK THERE, OR THE INTERNATIONAL PETANQUE TOURNAMENT. A WASTE OF TAXPAYER DOLLARS. I SPOKE WITH CHARLIE GEORGE BEFORE HE PASSED. HE IS A VERY EXPERIENCED MARINE ENGINEER . HE TOOK MY IDEA, I HAVE BEEN WORKING ON THIS FOR 15 YEARS, HE UPGRADED MY IDEA AND THAT PHOTO IS AN EXAMPLE OF WHAT THE RIVERWALK WOULD LOOK LIKE. AND, THAT SPACE WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT EVERYBODY CAN USE, FOR WALKING , LOOKING AT THE SUNSET, THE PROPERTY OWNERS WOULD HAVE ACCESS TO A GANGWAY FROM THEIR PROPERTY ONTO THE BOARDWALK WHICH WOULD ENABLE PEOPLE TO PARK IN LOTS A, B, C AND D, AND WALK SAFELY BECAUSE WE HAVE NO SIDEWALKS, TO WALK SAFELY TO THESE BUSINESSES AS THINGS GROW. WE WILL PROBABLY HAVE HOTELS DOWN THERE, TOO. WHO KNOWS WHAT ELSE . ALSO, ALLOWING A GANGWAY DOWN TO FLOATING DOCKS, INCREASING BOATING TRAFFIC AND LESSEN THE NEED FOR PARKING SPOTS BECAUSE WE CAN A PEOPLE WHO WILL VISIT, GO TO THESE RESTAURANTS AND SALOONS FROM NASSAU COUNTY ALONG THE ST. MARY'S RIVER AND OTHER PLACES WITH THE CANALS COMING THROUGH THEIR. THEY WILL NOT NEED TO PARK, THEY WILL TAKE THE VOTES . IT WILL BE EFFORTLESS. INCREASED REVENUES FOR THE CITY AND THE COUNTY AND INCREASE PROPERTY VALUES AND BUSINESS REVENUES. SO, THERE IS MONEY TO BUILD THIS. >> GO AHEAD AND FINISH >> THERE IS MONEY TO BUILD THIS, IT DOES NOT AFFECT CITY TAXPAYERS, BUT THAT MONEY WILL WANT TO SEE A COMMITMENT FROM THE CITY AND I WILL BE WILLING TO WORK HARD TO GET THAT MONEY TO COME IN. IT IS THERE. I HAVE BEEN WORKING ON THIS FOR A LONG TIME. BUT THEY NEED TO SEE A USE OF MAYBE THE IMPACT THESE, TWO THIRDS OF THE IMPACT FEES ARE ALLOCATED FOR C AND D,LOT MOVE THOSE INTO BUILDING THE RETAINING WALL AND THE RIVERWALK BOARDWALK GOING NORTH, THAT MONEY COMMITTED MAKES IT EASIER TO BRING THE MONEY IN. IF THEY SEE NO COMMITMENT FROM THE CITY FOR THIS PROJECT, I WILL NOT BE ABLE TO DO IT YOU KNOW MY SUCCESS RATE FOR WHEN I COMMIT 100% YOUR PRODUCT IS PRETTY GOOD IN THE CITY. I AM WILLING [01:05:02] TO COMMIT 100% TO GETTING MONEY IN FROM OUTSIDE OF THE CITY TO HELP FUND THAT. ALONG WITH THE GRANTS AND OTHER THINGS WE HAVE MONEY FOR. SO, I AM WILLING TO COME BACK IN TWO WEEKS TO SEE IF YOU WANT TO CONTINUE THIS DISCUSSION. IF YOU DO AND YOU WANT TO COMMIT TO IT I WILL COMMIT TO WORKING MY BUTT OFF TO GET THAT MONEY. IT WILL NOT BE ALL AT ONCE. I AM WILLING TO COMMIT TO WORKING MY ASS OFF, EXCUSE MY LANGUAGE. I WILL WORK THAT FREE TO GET THE MONEY TO COME IN. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME >> THANK YOU. ANY OTHER PUBLIC COMMENT ? MR. STEPHENSON AND MR. LARSON, IF YOU COULD FILL OUT A FORM. >> I DID. >> THANK YOU. >> PETE STEPHENSON, FERNANDINA BEACH. THIS IS A THANK YOU TO BOTH THE OUTGOING AND INCOMING COMMISSIONERS , I DO FEEL THAT WE HAVE OUR PREVIOUS MAYOR WHO STILL HAS NOT FINISHED A JOB, HE HAS GOT TO BE A DAD. GOT THE LATEST UPDATE, PROBABLY NOT GOING TO HAPPEN BEFORE THE END OF THIS MEETING. GRATITUDE AND THANKS FOR THE WORK HE HAS DONE FORCE THE COMMITTEE AND NOW HAS A TOUGHER JOB, BEING A DAD. HIS WIFE HAS TO KEEP THEM OUT OF TROUBLE FIRST, THAT IS ALL. SECOND, TONIGHT, WE HAVE SEEN SOME EMOTION AND WHAT I MENTIONED LAST WEEK, THE C-WORD, COMPROMISE , LET'S FIGURE OUT HOW WE WILL WORK TOGETHER. YOU HAVE A TEAM UP HERE THAT WERE ELECTED BY YOU. LET'S SUPPORT THEM. THIS HALF OF THE TEAM DID NOT CHANGE , IT IS THE SAME PEOPLE. LET'S THINK ABOUT HOW WE COMPROMISE AND HOW WE WORK TOGETHER TO SOLVE REAL PROBLEMS. YOU WERE DISCUSSION ABOUT THE WATERFRONT. SOME NEW IDEAS AND DIFFERENT THOUGHTS. LET'S USE THOSE IDEAS. I GUESS THE MODEL I WOULD SAY TO KEEP IN MIND, BUILD A BRIDGE, NOT A WALL. THAT IS THE MESSAGE I WANT TO LEAVE AND I WANT TO COMMEND OUR NEW COMMISSION , THEY JUMPED INTO THIS, THEY DID IT ON THEIR OPERATION AND, TRUST ME, THEY ARE NOT GETTING PAID ENOUGH TO DO THE JOB THEY HAVE TO DO. THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU. ANY OTHER PUBLIC COMMENTS FOR ITEMS NOT ON THE AGENDA? >> COULD YOU HELP US UNDERSTAND WHERE WE ARE WITH THE WATERFRONT PARK? >> YES. THE PROJECT IS CURRENTLY OUT FOR BID, WE HAVE A LOT OF QUESTIONS ABOUT THE PROJECT, WE HAD A MEETING WITH FOUR CONTRACTORS TO SHOW UP TO WALK THE SITE THE BID WILL OPEN LATER THIS WEEK AND WE WILL KNOW WHAT THE PRICE POINT WILL BE. FOR CONSTRUCTION OF THE PLANS APPROVED BY THE PRIOR COMMISSION FOR THE DESIGN. >> ARE THOSE PRICE POINTS , ARE THEY BROKEN OUT ? WHERE WE CAN UNDERSTAND WHAT COMPONENTS WILL COST? >> YES, IT WAS BIT WITH THAT IN MIND AND THERE ARE DEDUCTIONS AS PART OF THE PROJECT AND WE CAN PULL ELEMENTS OUT OF IT, IF WE NEED TO, TO GET THE PROJECT WITHIN BUDGET AND/OR IF THERE IS A CHEAPER WAY TO PERFORM VARIOUS ASPECTS OF THE PROJECTS, LIKE SIDEWALKS, WE CAN DO IT CHEAPER USING LOCAL VENDORS, WE WILL DO THAT. >> AFTER YOU GET THE BID, YOU OPEN UP , WHAT WOULD BE THE NORMAL NEXT STEPS? WOULD WE DO A WORKSHOP OR COME BACK TO THE CITY COMMISSION ? >> NO, THIS HAS FULL APPROVAL ALREADY. WE CAN BRING ELEMENTS OF IT BACK BUT WE HAVE THE FULL GREEN LIGHT TO MOVE FORWARD AND THERE WILL BE COORDINATION WITH YOU ALL AS WE MOVE FORWARD WITH CONSTRUCTION. THE NEXT STEP WOULD BE INTERDEPARTMENTAL COORDINATION TO MAKE SURE THE PROJECT IS NOT GOING TO INTERFERE WITH OTHER PROJECTS OR EVENTS WE HAVE COMING UP. THE ORIGINAL PLAN WAS TO START CONSTRUCTION AFTER THE AMELIA OPEN OVER THE WEEKEND AND HAVE IT COMPLETED BEFORE SHRIMP FEST. >> BUT, SO, IF WE WANTED TO RE-LOOK ADD CERTAIN ELEMENTS , HOW WOULD WE DO THAT COME IN A WORKSHOP? WOULD WE DO THAT IN [01:10:04] FRONT OF THE CITY COMMISSION FOR APPROVAL? >> IT COULD BE DONE TO A WORKSHOP IF YOU WANT TO BRING BACK FOR DISCUSSION, OR WITHIN ONE-ON-ONE DISCUSSIONS WITH THE CHARTER OFFICE AS FAR AS APPLYING -- WE WILL WORK OUT THAT CONSENSUS TO MOVE FORWARD. A NUMBER OF AVENUES. >> I HAVE QUESTIONS ABOUT TWO THINGS, ABOUT THE -- WHAT DO YOU CALL IT? THE SPLASH PAD. I WOULD BE INTERESTED TO SEE THE COST OF THAT. I AM ALSO CONCERNED ABOUT THE MAINTENANCE , LONG TERM, I DON'T KNOW THAT THE BID, OR INFORMATION WILL PROVIDE US WITH THAT . THE OTHER QUESTION IS, WHAT ABOUT THE PETANQUE COURTS? DOES IT MAKES SENSE TO LEAVE THEM WHERE THEY ARE AND WHAT WOULD BE THE FINANCIAL IMPLICATIONS OF THAT VERSUS WHAT YOU WILL SEE IN THE BID? I AM CURIOUS ABOUT HOW TO GET ANSWERS TO THOSE TWO QUESTIONS AND I DON'T KNOW IF OTHER COMMISSIONERS HAVE QUESTIONS ABOUT CERTAIN COMPONENTS, BUT, THOSE ARE TWO THAT ARE WORRISOME TO ME. >> COMMISSIONER TUTEN? >> WE SHOULD HAVE ANY FUTURE DISCUSSION IN A WORKSHOP . THAT KEEPS IT OPEN FOR PUBLIC COMMENT AND PUBLIC VIEW, NOT JUST DISCUSSION WITH THE CHARTER OFFICERS. I DO HAVE CONCERNS, TOO, ESPECIALLY ABOUT THE LONG-TERM MAINTENANCE AND THE RISKS. HAVING ATTENDED THE OPEN AND UNDERSTANDING MORE ABOUT THE TOURNAMENT. YES, I WOULD LOVE TO SEE A WORKSHOP TO FULLY UNDERSTAND. >> IT TAKES TWO COMMISSIONERS TO MOVE AN ITEM TO A WORKSHOP. CITY CLERK? >> THANK YOU, JEREMIAH , I THINK WE SHOULD DO IT AFTER YOU GET THE BIDS AND HAVE DIGESTED THEM AND UNDERSTAND WHAT IT TAKES SO WE CAN -- WHATEVER YOU CAN START TO PUT TOGETHER IN TERMS OF MAINTENANCE COSTS, LONG-TERM, THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL AS WELL AND HELP US WITH -- I AM FULLY SUPPORTIVE OF THE WATERFRONT PARK BUT THERE ARE A COUPLE OF COMPONENTS THAT NEED TO BE LOOKED AT AGAIN VERY CLOSELY. >> OKAY. THIS IS A GOOD TIME, BID RESULTS SHOULD BE THURSDAY OR FRIDAY OF THIS WEEK, WE WILL SHARE THAT WITH YOU AND GET TO THE NEXT WORKSHOP TO LOOK AT IT. COMMISSIONER POYNTER ? >> HAVING BEEN A COMMISSIONER -- ALMOST THE SAME PART WE ARE LOOKING AT NOW , WITH WHAT WAS APPROVED AND THE NEXT COMMISSION GOT IN AND STUMBLED IT AND GAVE THE MONEY BACK, I CAN SPEAK ON THIS. WHAT I DON'T WANT TO HAVE HAPPEN, WHAT I WOULD HOPE DOESN'T HAPPEN, THIS COMMISSION DOESN'T REWRITE ON THE PROCESS , WHEN THE PREVIOUS COMMISSION SPENT A LOT OF TIME WORKING ON. I DO NOT DISAGREE WITH THE FACT THAT THERE NEEDS TO BE TWEAKING , BUT, I HAVE BEEN THERE BEFORE. YOU OPEN IT UP AGAIN , OF ALL THE CONVERSATIONS AGAIN, THIS WILL BE STOPPED DEAD IN ITS TRACKS. I WANT TO CAUTION MY FELLOW COMMISSIONERS, I HAVE BEEN THERE AND DONE IT, IT IS NOT PRETTY. >> RECOGNIZING THE CHANGE COMMISSION, THE BID WOULD PROVIDE ADJUSTMENT SO WE HAVE THE FLEXIBILITY TO MAKE SOME ADJUSTMENTS, IF THERE WAS A NEW DIRECTION PROVIDED BY >> ANYTHE COMMISSION. OTHER QUESTIONS? THANK YOU VERY MUCH. ANY OTHER ITEMS NOT ON THE AGENDA RESIDENTS WOULD LIKE TO [5. CONSENT AGENDA] SPEAK ABOUT? MOVING ALONG WE WILL GO INTO OUR CONSENT AGENDA. DO I HAVE ANY COMMISSIONERS THAT WANT TO PULL ONE ITEM FROM THE CONSENT AGENDA? >> MOVED TO APPROVE . >> SECOND . >> ANY DISCUSSION? PLEASE CALL THE ROLE. >> POYNTER? >> YES . >> TUTEN? >> YES. >> AYSCUE? >> YES . >> ITEM 6, RESOLUTIONS, OUR APPROVAL FOR PASSERO ASSOCIATES [6.5 PROPOSAL APPROVAL - AMERICAN SKATE RAMP COMPANY - RESOLUTION 2024-222 APPROVING THE PROPOSAL FROM AMERICAN SKATE RAMP COMPANY FOR CONCEPT DESIGN SERVICES AND CONSTRUCTION DOCUMENTS FOR THE FERANDINA BEACH POE PINSON SKATE PARK EXPANSION IN THE AMOUNT OF $90,000.00; AUTHORIZING EXECUTION; AND PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE. Synopsis: Approves the American Skate Ramp Company proposal for concept design services and construction documents for the Fernandina Beach Poe Pinson Skate Park expansion, in the amount of $90,000.00.] ? I APOLOGIZE, WE WILL BRING 6.5 TO THE FRONT SO OUR YOUNG [01:15:04] ONES WHO MAY HAVE DINNER AND/OR BEDTIMES. >> OR HOMEWORK . >> CAN WE HAVE A SHORT BATHROOM BREAK? >> PLEASE COME ON UP. >> I WAS ASKED TO SPEAK, A 21 PARK VIEW, I WANT TO BACK UP OUR YOUTH. THEY ARE OUR FUTURE, TO GIVE THEM THE TOOLS TO BE PHYSICAL, DOING STUFF, LEARNING HOW TO PUSH THROUGH PAIN AND LEARNING HOW TO BE GOOD AT SOMETHING, THAT IS AN IMPORTANT THING TO PROVIDE THEM. WE HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO DO SOMETHING REALLY GOOD WHAT WE PUT IN PREVIOUSLY WAS SOMETHING, BUT NOT ENOUGH. WE HAVE A CHANCE TO DO SOMETHING THAT IS APPROPRIATE FOR HAVING AN OLYMPIAN GROW UP AND PRACTICE HERE INSTEAD OF HAVING TO GO TO JACKSONVILLE TO PRACTICE I AM HERE TO SUPPORT THEM. OUR YOUTH, WHEN THEY FOUGHT FOR THEIR SKATE PARK AND FOR THEIR PLAYING FIELDS, SOFTBALL FIELDS, THAT WAS EXCITING. I AM 67 , I HAVE ALREADY HAD A GREAT CHILDHOOD AND A LOT OF FUN TIMES. TO SEE THEM , THEY HAVE LOST A LOT OF WHAT WE HAD HERE PEOPLE NOTE WE HAVE LOST THE TRAMPOLINES, WE LOST THE WATERSLIDES , WE LOST THE GO KARTS , WE LOST A LOT OF STUFF KIDS USED TO PLAY ON. WE HAVE VERY LITTLE LEFT . THAT IS EASY FOR THEM TO GET TO THE SKATE PARK IS A BIG THING, EVEN IF THEY DON'T PARTICIPATE THEMSELVES, THEY WATCH THEIR FRIENDS . GETTING OUTDOORS AND AWAY FROM COMPUTERS AND THEIR PHONES AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE IS A GOOD THING. I AM VERY SUPPORTIVE OF ANYTHING AND EVERYTHING WE DO TO MAKE THIS A WORLD-CLASS SKATE PARK FOR THEM. THANK YOU. >> NEXT I HAVE TALLULAH. NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD. >> I SKATE AT THE LOCAL SKATE PARK AND THE ONE IN JACKSONVILLE BECAUSE WE DO NOT NECESSARILY HAVE A WORLD-CLASS BOWL TO PRACTICE BECAUSE THAT IS A MAIN THING. ALL MY SIBLINGS SKATE AT THE LOCAL SKATE PARK. I WAS NOT PREPARED. SORRY. BEFORE ME AND MY SIBLINGS STARTED TO SKATE, WE HEARD THEY WOULD EXPAND THE SKATE PARK AND WE WERE EXCITED TO WITNESS THAT. WE WERE YOUNGER , ALL OF MY SIBLINGS SKATE TO THE FIVE-YEAR-OLDS, GREAT TO SEE THAT WE WERE EXCITED TO SEE THAT HAPPEN WE GOT INTO SKATING AND STARTED SKATING THE SKATE PARK BEFORE THEY REDID THE SKATE LIGHT. IT WAS KIND OF RICKETY BUT YOU HAVE TO DEAL WITH IT SOMETIMES. OVER THE FIVE YEARS THE COMMUNITY HAS GROWN , BUT THE SKATE PARK HASN'T. WE DEFINITELY WANT TO LOOK INTO EXPANDING SKATEBOARDING IN FERNANDINA BEACH . BECAUSE WE HAVE A GOOD COMMUNITY FOR IT, PLENTY OF SPACE, BEAUTIFUL ISLAND. THERE ARE MULTIPLE PEOPLE I KNOW, WE HAD TO DRIVE ONE HOUR TO DO SOMETHING TO PREPARE US FOR CONTEST, AS A TRANSITION SKATER, WE HAVE JUSTIFIED BAR, NOT EVEN A PART OF THE PARK. EXPANDING THE SKATE PARK OVERALL FOR ALL SORTS OF SKATERS. YEAH. >> WE HAVE AUGUSTINE. >> 2145 PURCELL DRIVE IN [01:20:09] FERNANDINA BEACH. SOME OF YOU ARE NEW FACES TO ME. I AM NEW TO Y'ALL, TOO. I HAVE SPOKEN TO THE COMMISSION ABOUT THIS . I AM AT THE SKATE PARK WITH MY GRANDCHILDREN AND I SEE THAT OLDER KIDS TAKING CARE OF THE YOUNGER KIDS, AND I SEE THE CAMARADERIE BETWEEN THEM AND IT IS AN IMPORTANT THING IN THE COMMUNITY. IT DOES NEED IMPROVEMENT, THE AMOUNT OF TIME I HAVE BEEN GOING THERE, MORE AND MORE CHILDREN ARE COMING, SO THERE IS NOT ENOUGH ROOM FOR ALL OF THE CHILDREN I SEE. WE SEE KIDS THAT ARE THREE YEARS OLD. IT IS WONDERFUL TO SEE . THE OLDER KIDS ARE SO CAUTIOUS AND SO NICE AND KIND TO THE LITTLE ONES. IT IS EXTREMELY IMPORTANT AND WE HOPE YOU WILL CONSIDER IT AND GET APPROVAL FOR IT. WE APPRECIATE IT . THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU. >> BECCA? >> I DO NOT HAVE A SPEECHBIG PREPARED I WANTED TO SAY CONGRATULATIONS , BY THE WAY, ON THE ELECTION RESULTS . MAYOR, IT IS GREAT TO SEE YOU UP THERE. I WANT TO REVISIT THE SENTIMENTS I BROUGHT UP IN AUGUST, I WAS ENTER BELIEVE CHANGING EXPANSION BUT WE NEED A BRAND-NEW SKATE PARK. TALLULAH BROUGHT UP SOME AMAZING POINTS WITH EVERYTHING SHE SAID . SHE SAID SHE WAS NOT PREPARED BUT THAT WAS AMAZING. SOMETHING I HAVE GATHERED LISTENING TONIGHT IS PEOPLE NEED HOBBIES . IN THE SPIRIT OF HOBBIES , I WANTED TO TALK ABOUT THE SENTIMENTS I DISCUSSED MY OWN PERSONAL TIES, THE COMMUNITY SAFETY AND FUTURE . IF WE WANT POSITIVE CHANGE WITHIN OUR COMMUNITY FOR OUR CHILDREN , REFERENCING SPECIFICALLY THE CONCERNS BROUGHT UP TONIGHT, I THINK WE CAN PUT ACTION TO WORK AND MAKE THE SKATE PARK COME TRUE. THERE IS A COMMUNITY DEMAND FOR IT AND LEVELING HOW WE ARE LOOKING AT THIS . LIKE THEY WERE SAYING, OLDER KIDS HELP THE YOUNGER KIDS, MIKE, KENNY, GROUNDWORK LAID TO MAKE THIS HAPPEN, NOT SURE, I DO NOT KNOW , AM I ALLOWED TO ASK QUESTIONS IN THE CHAMBER? >> WE CANNOT COMPEL A COMMISSIONER TO ANSWER. >> IF YOU CAN ANSWER, I WAS CURIOUS, WHERE YOU ALL WERE IN REGARDS TO A DECISION BEING MADE FOR THE SKATE PARK? THERE WERE CONCERNS ABOUT FINANCIAL, HOW THAT WOULD BE TAKEN CARE OF AND FUNDED FINANCIALLY. I WAS CURIOUS , IS THERE ANY OPPOSITION CURRENTLY FOR THE SKATE PARK TO BE WHAT WE ARE ASKING IT TO BE, IF SO, C-WORD, COMPROMISE, WHAT WE CAN DO TO COMPROMISE . SORRY, THAT IS A LONG QUESTION. ARE WE ALL ON BOARD ? IF WE ARE NOT, WHAT CAN WE DO TO COMPROMISE AND GET ON THE SAME -- YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? >> I DON'T WANT TO SPEAK FOR ANY COMMISSIONERS BUT YOU WILL GET YOUR ANSWERS IN THE DISCUSSION. >> EXCELLENT. NO BIG SPEECH, ALONGSIDE THE WONDERFUL WOMEN AT FRIENDS OF FERNANDINA BEACH SKATE PARK, THE COMMUNITY IN GENERAL , WE HAVE A FEW ATHLETES , THREE OF OUR FEMALE ATHLETES ORIGINALLY BROUGHT A LOT OF POSITIVE ATTENTION TO OUR COMMUNITY WITH SOME CONTESTS THEY COMPETED IN IN CALIFORNIA. AT THE END OF THE DAY , WE NEED A SAFE PLACE FOR OUR KIDS TO CONTINUE GROWING, LEARNING, A SAFE HAVEN , MAYOR ANTUN , A SPORTS BACKGROUND FOR YOU, YOU UNDERSTAND THE IMPORTANCE OF BEING PHYSICAL, HOW THAT CAN , NOT TO BE DRAMATIC, BUT IT CAN SAVE CHILDHOOD. SPORTS ARE SO [01:25:03] IMPORTANT . IT IS ENCOURAGING TO SEE THE KIDS COMING OUT TONIGHT. COOL TO SEE THE YOUNG KIDS GETTING INVOLVED TO MAKE THESE DECISIONS. WE HAVE MADE AMAZING STRIDES SO FAR. THE SUPPORT WE RECEIVED FROM ALL OF YOU HAS BEEN TREMENDOUS . AS FAR AS THE IMPROVEMENTS WE HAVE MADE , AND I KNOW, IT IS A LOT TO ASK TO HAVE A BRAND-NEW SKATE PARK, BUT IT IS INCREDIBLY IMPORTANT . I DON'T WANT TO BE REDUNDANT, WITH SOME OF THE WONDERFUL ACCOLADES THAT ARE PRESENT ATHLETES ARE BRINGING , I THINK IT IS IMPORTANT THAT WE CONTINUE TO BAND TOGETHER AND CONTINUE TO SHOW THE WORLD THAT FERNANDINA BEACH IS A COMMUNITY THAT COMES TOGETHER TO MAKE DREAMS COME TRUE. THAT IS WHAT WE ARE TRYING TO DO. THAT IS ALL I HAVE FOR TODAY. >> HELLO . I AM PATTY MURRAY, I WAS THE ONE THAT STARTED THIS DARN SKATE PARK. YEARS AGO. MOTHERS GOT SICK OF TAKING OUR KIDS UP AT THE PLANTATION JAIL. THEY WOULD CALL AND SAY, YOUR KIDS WERE STEALING , THE PARENTS WOULD HAVE TO PICK THEM UP, ALL FOUR OR FIVE OF US WOULD BE SITTING IN THE ROOM , WITH THE SKATEBOARDS, THEY WOULD BE KICKED OFF CENTER STREET. IT TOOK AS FOUR YEARS OF SPAGHETTI DINNERS, BAGGING GROCERIES AT PUBLIX TO RAISE MONEY, WE RAISED $80,000 AND WE CAME BEFORE THE CITY COUNCIL AND THEY TURNED US DOWN. WE WERE ALL LIKE, MY GOSH COME OF THIS IS TERRIBLE, WE RAISED MORE MONEY AND I BECAME PRESIDENT BECAUSE JEN STEPPED DOWN, SHE STEPPED DOWN, YOU ARE YOUNGER, YOU HAVE FOUR BOYS, THE BOYS WERE OLDER AND THEY WERE ABLE TO REALLY HELP AND THEY DID, AND WE RAISED A LOT OF MONEY. THE CITY MATCHED US WITH $200,000 . MY NUMBERS MAY BE WRONG BECAUSE THIS IS 20 SOMETHING YEARS AGO. THEY MATCHED US AND WE BUILT WHAT WOULD BE CALLED PHASE ONE AND WE ALWAYS PLANNED ON PHASE TWO, THE GRASS NEXT TO IT WOULD BE PHASE TWO BUT IT ALWAYS STAYED PHASE ONE. BUT, IT WAS NEAT, WE ONLY WON BY ONE VOTE, PEOPLE THAT DID NOT VOTE, I HAVE TALKED TO AND THEY THOUGHT IT WOULD NOT BE USED. IT WAS LIKE, ANTS ON A DONUT, THERE WERE KIDS EVERYWHERE -- FOR YEARS IT WAS LIKE THAT AND STILL LIKE THAT, KIDS EVERYWHERE. WE HAD TO HAVE IT. THE PLANTATION OWNERS WERE VERY HAPPY. ALL THESE STOREOWNERS WERE HAPPY BECAUSE THE KIDS WERE SKATING. THEY ARE IN A SAFE SPOT. NICE, OPEN, YOU SEE THEM. IT IS NOT WOODED. YOUR SON WAS THERE, SEAN WAS THERE, WE LET THE KIDS DESIGN IT, BILLY WAS THERE. MY KIDS WERE THERE. TRAVIS HARGROVE . IT WAS REALLY GREAT . I THINK IT HAS BEEN SUCCESSFUL AND WE CAN BE MORE SUCCESSFUL IF WE CAN EXPAND. THAT IS IT. THANK YOU. >> NEXT, PETER. >> GOOD EVENING 700 MAGNOLIA BLUFF WAY. HOME OF THE OLYMPIAN, TWO GROWN KIDS , POE PINSON. ON BEHALF OF THE YOUTH OF THE CITY, FATHER OF TWO, I COACHED THE SPORTS, SOCCER AND LACROSSE FOR MANY YEARS AS THEY [01:30:05] GREW UP . I AM FAMILIAR WITH INDIVIDUAL SPORT AND TEAM SPORT , BOTH ON A PERSONAL LEVEL AND THROUGH MY KIDS. I ALSO GREW UP SKATEBOARDING AS A KID I LIVED OVERSEAS AND SOME ASSIGNMENTS WHERE MY FATHER WAS, HAD A SKATE PARK . OTHER PLACES WE LIVED DID NOT . IT WAS A NOTICEABLE BOARD TO ME AT AN OUTLET FOR ME THAT WAS NOT THERE IN THOSE SITUATIONS WHERE IT WAS NOT PROVIDED. I AM A VOLUNTEER AND SUPPORTER OF THE FRIENDS OF FERNANDINA BEACH SKATE PARK . I AM NEW TO THE CITY. DRAWN TO THE SKATE PARK AND THE VIBE THAT WAS GOING ON AT THE BEACH. I MET THE PARENTS AND THE KIDS COME AND REALLY GREAT VIBE. STARTED VOLUNTEERING . IT IS HEAVILY USED. I GO BY THERE ON A REGULAR BASIS. I STOP AND SEE THE KIDS CHALLENGING THEMSELVES , WORKING TOGETHER AND HAVING A GREAT TIME AND GROWING AND BECOMING LEADERS AND MENTORS. IT IS THE TRUTH. I HAVE A LONG CAREER IN LEADERSHIP DEVELOPMENT AND I SEE IT AT THE TEENAGE AND PRETEEN LEVEL. VALUE-ADDED , THIS IS A UNIQUE GROUP THAT OUR COMMUNITY HAS . IT IS A UNIQUE FACILITY THAT OUR COMMUNITY HAS. BUT IT IS SMALL AND IN DISREPAIR AND NEEDS TO BE UPDATED AND NEEDS TO BE EXPANDED. I WOULD IMPLORE YOU TO GIVE IT THE STRONGEST CONSIDERATION . IT IS IMPORTANT FOR THE YOUTH AND A SPECIAL COMPONENT OF THIS GROUP AND OUR YOUTH AND THE LARGER COMMUNITY. THANK YOU. >> >> MICHAEL NICHOLS? >> MICHAEL NICHOLS, HOME OF POE PINSON. THEY SAID, FIVE YEARS AGO, THEY STARTED SKATING , WE HAVE BEEN TELLING THEM THERE WOULD BE A NEW SKATE PARK HERE, MY SON, IS ABOUT TO TURN 12 AND IS GETTING FOR ALMOST 12 YEARS. EVERY YEARS HE SAYS, I THOUGHT THERE WOULD BE ANY SKATE PARK, I FEEL LIKE THE JAGUARS. ALWAYS GOING TO BE NEXT YEAR. IT IS ABOUT TIME THE CITY STEPS UP, WE ARE LOSING THINGS, TRAMPOLINES, LOSING THINGS TO DO, THE SKATE PARK IS VERY IMPORTANT AND TIME FOR THIS COMMISSION , CONGRATULATIONS, WELCOME, TO INVEST OUR YOUTH AND APPROVE THIS NEW CONTRACT FOR THE $9000 TO HELP US DESIGN A WORLD-CLASS SKATE PARK THAT IS WORTHY OF THE NAME ON THE SKATE PARK. POE PINSON. APPLAUSE ] >> JACQUELINE STEPHENSON . >> I JUST HAD HIP REPLACEMENT. JACQUELINE STEPHENSON , 83 OAK GROVE PLACE, HERE ON BEHALF OF THE MERMAID'S TALE, A NONPROFIT I FOUND MYSELF. MORE IMPORTANTLY , THIS IS VERY IMPORTANT I AM TALKING TONIGHT AFTER WHAT I WITNESSED. PRIOR TO THIS. THE MERMAID'S TALE IS A NONPROFIT THAT PROMOTES POSITIVE MENTAL HEALTH AND PREVENT SUICIDE OR -- FOR FERNANDINA BEACH ADOLESCENTS AND YOUNG ADULTS , BY GIVING THEM THE SKILLS , SUPPORT, AND INSPIRATION TO DISCOVER THE STRENGTHS THROUGH EXPRESSION IN MUSIC, MOVEMENT , ART, AND POSITIVITY. WHEN ADULTS , ORGANIZATIONS, COMMUNITIES INTENTIONALLY SHIFT TO BECOME MORE NURTURING AND SUPPORTIVE OF YOUNG PEOPLE, POSITIVE OUTCOMES RESULT. YOUTH AND YOUNG ADULTS OFTEN FACE SPECIFIC CHALLENGES , MANY WORRY ABOUT OUR KIDS , ESPECIALLY WITH THE CHALLENGES THEY FACE TODAY , SCHOOL STRESS, SOCIAL MEDIA , QUESTIONING THEIR IDENTITIES , BULLYING , AND NARCISSISM. RESEARCH SHOWS , THE CLINICAL LEVEL, NARCISSISM HAS INCREASED [01:35:02] 30% IN THE UNITED STATES, A RECENT STUDY ON NINE TO 10-YEAR-OLDS FOUND PARENTS AND CAREGIVERS WERE NOT AWARE THAT THEIR CHILDREN HAD TRIED TO KILL THEMSELVES. 88% OF THE CASES , HAVE DID NOT KNOW THEIR CHILDREN HAD THOUGHT ABOUT SUICIDE. CHILDREN AS YOUNG AS FIVE YEARS OLD HAVE COMMITTED SUICIDE. WE NEED MORE SOCIAL SUPPORT. I RECENTLY LISTENED TO A PODCAST WITH POE PINSON AND INSPIRED BY HER. SHE STARTED SKATING AT THE PARK AT FOUR YEARS OLD. ONE OF THE THINGS IN THE PODCAST SHE TALKED ABOUT WAS ABOUT THE ENVIRONMENT AND THE COMMUNITY IN THE SKATEBOARDING COMMUNITY. SHE SAID , "SKATING BRINGS PEOPLE TOGETHER , SKATEBOARDING JUST BRINGS PEOPLE TOGETHER , IT IS CRAZY, THE WEIRDEST GROUPS OF PEOPLE THAT SHOULD NOT MATCH OR ANYTHING, THEY ARE BROUGHT TOGETHER AT A LOT OF TRAUMA JUST DISAPPEARS, OR DISSOLVES . I DON'T KNOW THAT WE JUST BOUGHT OVER SKATING, LIKE WE ALWAYS HAVE THAT, WE BOND." RESEARCH, WE KNOW THERE ARE NUMEROUS HEALTH BENEFITS FROM SKATEBOARDING, LIKE HELPING VICTIMS OF TRAUMATIC INJURIES REMOVE THE FEAR AND PAIN HIM ABOUT THE BIGGEST ONE IT ALLOWS CREATIVE FREEDOM FOR MENTAL HEALTH IMPROVEMENT . WE NEED TO CHANGE THE STIGMA FOR OUR YOUTH . THEY NEED TO BE ABLE TO BE CREATIVE AND TO BE ABLE TO EXPRESS THEMSELVES IN AUTHENTIC WAYS. LASTLY , BY DRAWING ATTENTION TO EXPRESSING NEW HIGHS, SKATEBOARDING SHIFTS FOCUS FROM ANXIETIES AND NEGATIVE THOUGHT PATTERNS , WHICH IMPROVES SELF-ESTEEM AND SELF-EFFICACY . THIS IS PARTICULARLY IMPORTANT FOR RECOVERING FROM INJURIES , POSTTRAUMATIC STRESS ORDER , OR DEPRESSION , WE ASK YOU VOTE IN FAVOR OF RESOLUTION 6.5, WE ASKED YOU GIVE US THAT SKATE PARK THAT WILL BE BETTER THAN WHAT WE COULD PLAN. WE NEED MORE FOR OUR CHILDREN AND OPEN OUR YES -- EYES AND NOTE THIS IS HAPPENING TO OUR CHILDREN. >> GWYNN JOHNSTON. >> I LIVE IN YULEE, 2145 PURCELL DRIVE IN FERNANDINA BEACH, I HAVE LIVED HERE FROM I WAS TWO TO 12 SKATEBOARDING, THE FERNANDINA BEACH SKATE PARK HAS HELPED ME FORGE MANY FRIENDSHIPS THAT WOULD NOT BE POSSIBLE WITHOUT IT . AT ANY GIVEN TIME, I CAN BE SKATING WITH NINE-YEAR-OLDS OR 27-YEAR-OLDS WHO ARE ALL MY FRIENDS. SKATEBOARDING IS NOT LIKE ANY OTHER SPORT BECAUSE EVERYONE IS GOING FOR EACH OTHER WIN.TO YOU DON'T ONLY WANT YOURSELF TO EARN A TRICK BUT YOU WANT YOUR FRIENDS TO LAND A TRICK OR A PLACE IN THE CONTEST. LT IS REALLY INSPIRING TO SEE WHAT PEOPLE CAN DO ON A LITTLE PIECE OF WOOD WITH WHEELS. FUNDING THE FERNANDINA BEACH SKATE PARK WOULD BE A VALUABLE THING FOR THE CITY TO DO BECAUSE IT IS GETTING THE NEXT GENERATION INTO SKATEBOARDING AND GIVING THEM AWAY FROM SCREENS AND VIDEO GAMES, AND TECHNOLOGY OF ALL SORTS. HELPING THEM MAKE FRIENDS OF ALL BACKGROUNDS AND HAVING THEM HAVE A FUN AND HEALTHY OUTDOOR ACTIVITY. THANK YOU ESTEEMED CITY COMMISSION. >> I THINK WE HAVE A FUTURE COMMISSIONER. >> LAST BUT NOT LEAST , MR. HERRERO. >> PO BOX 1, FERNANDINA BEACH, HOME OF OLYMPIAN , POE PINSON I WANT TO RECOGNIZE THE SKATEBOARDERS WE HAVE TODAY, TYLER, BRODY, LET ME PUT THESE ON. BECCA, CHRISTINE, PRESSLEY, KNOX, BELLA, PRIMROSE , BRITNEY, QUINN, HOLDEN, [01:40:01] TALLULAH, KENNY PINSON, THE FATHER OF OLYMPIAN , POE PINSON. COCOA, THE TWO YOUNG LADIES WHO JUST GOT BACK FROM CALIFORNIA COMPETING AT THE HIGHEST LEVEL . GIVING OUR NAME TO ANOTHER CITY. THEM RECOGNIZING WHO WE ARE. MISS PATTY MURRAY , WHO STARTED THE ADVENTURE WE HAVE. WE WANT TO CONTINUED FACE TO , SHE STARTED THIS 20 YEARS AGO . 20 YEARS AGO YOUR SON WAS PART OF THE DESIGN PROCESS. WE ARE TAKING UP THAT PART OF THIS. WE DO A LOT OF COMMUNITY OUTREACH PROGRAMS BY GIVING KIDS A SKATEBOARD. WE HAVE TO RECOGNIZE HIM. BUT, WHEN THEY STARTED, 20 YEARS AGO, WE KNEW WE HAD TO FINISH THIS . YOU ARE GOING TO LISTEN TO THE NEXT RESOLUTIONS THAT WILL COME ALONG , I WANT YOU TO PAY ATTENTION TO HOW MANY HAVE TO DO WITH NOT MANY,CHILDREN. IF YOU HAVE ALREADY LOOKED AT THE PAPERWORK , WE HAVE BATTING CAGES , THAT HAS TO DO WITH CHILDREN, YOU WILL APPROVE A LOT OF THINGS WITHIN THE NEXT HOUR OR SO, THAT HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH KIDS, AND THEY ARE SPENDING A LOT OF MONEY ON THESE THINGS. WE IMPLORE YOU , ESTEEMED COMMISSIONERS, TO THINK ABOUT THE KIDS, THINK ABOUT THE FUTURE, THINK ABOUT AFTER YOU ARE GONE, BUT IT WILL BE LIKE TO KNOW YOU ARE THE COMMISSION THAT DESIGNED ONE OF THE WORLD'S GREATEST SKATE PARKS IN FERNANDINA BEACH, FLORIDA. WHERE YOU HAVE, IN 2028, OUR ON OLYMPIAN GIRL AND POSSIBLY THREE MORE GIRLS, KNOWN AS THE PLACE TO SKATEBOARDING FOR YOUNG KIDS. SO, ON RESOLUTION 24-2024-222, I IMPLORE YOU TO SAY YES, THE PREVIOUS COMMISSION DID THE WORK AND BUDGETED THE MONEY, LET IT GO TO THE FRIEND OF FERNANDINA BEACH SKATE PARK AND FERNANDINA BEACH . CITY MANAGER UP FOR THIS ITEM. I BELIEVE YOU HAD A STAFF SUGGESTION OF RECOMMENDATION. >> YES, RESOLUTION 2024-222, APPROVING A PROPOSAL FOR AMERICAN SKATE RAMP COMPANY FOR CONCEPT DESIGN FOR SERVICES AND CONSTRUCTION DOCUMENTS FOR THE FERNANDINA BEACH NCEDB SKATE PARK IN $90,000 , THIS IS , AS WAS MENTIONED, BUDGETED IN FISCAL YEAR 2024-2025, TO USE IMPACT FEE DOLLARS AS SUCH, BECAUSE OF SOME OTHER FACTORS THAT COULD WEIGH IN ON A FUNDING FOR THE PROJECT, THERE HAS BEEN INTEREST IN MOVING FORWARD TO THE CONCEPTUAL DESIGN OF THE FIRST TO BRING AN PROBABLE COST AND WE CAN SEE WHERE THAT WOULD TAKE US. THAT IS AN OPTION THAT STAFF HAS BROUGHT FOR YOUR REVIEW. ENGINEERING, BEING ABLE PART OF THE PROJECT, IF THE CONCEPT IS NOT ENDORSED , MOVE FORWARD WITH ENGINEERING AND DESIGN, WHAT IS IN FRONT OF YOU IS $9000 TO DO EVERYTHING RIGHT NOW, AND WE HAVE A SECOND PROPOSAL IN HAND FOR $30,000 TO DO THE CONCEPT WORK NOW AND GET PROBABLE COST TO FIGURE OUT THE NEXT STEPS. >> THANK YOU. TO BUILD ON THAT, THE CONCERN THAT I HAVE, TO BE FAIR TO ALL RESIDENTS AND I WANT TO COMMEND A RESIDENT IN THE AUDIENCE, BASEBALL IS THAT IT GREAT JOB OF ASKING FOR MATCH WAS SOMETHING I WOULD CONTEND , WORTH DISCUSSING IF WE COULD SAY, WITH THIS CONCEPTUAL DESIGN, CAN WE CHALLENGE THE COMMITTEE TO BRING FUNDING AND SOME KIND OF MATCH TO MEET WITH SOME OF THE COST. MY BUSINESS WOULD BE WILLING TO START. I WOULD LIKE TO HEAR AN OPINION FROM THE COMMISSIONERS ABOUT WHAT WE THINK. >> I HAVE A COUPLE QUESTIONS FOR JEREMIAH. THIS PROPOSAL -- DOES THIS PROPOSAL IMPACT THE CURRENT SKATE PARK FOOTPRINT [01:45:02] THAT IS IN PLACE TODAY? THE COMMENT WAS MADE EARLIER, THAT , THIS WAS GOING TO CHANGE THE ENTIRE AREA ? >> WE WOULD BE BUILDING -- PRELIMINARY CONCEPT WOULD TO -- >> THE CURRENT -- YOU DID REHABILITATION WORK , DOES THAT INCLUDE THE CONCEPT? >> NO. LET ME PAUSE. IN DISCUSSION, THIS WOULD BE A PHASED PROJECT. STEP UP, THIS WILL BE A PHASED PROJECT TO EXPAND TO THE NORTH WHEN THAT WORK IS DONE, YOU WOULD REHABILITATE THE EXISTING FOOTPRINT OF THE ORIGINAL . >> LAST YEAR, YOU DID THE $52,000, WE ROLLED THE FUNDS OVER, SO SOME OF THE STRUCTURES HAVE BEEN REBUILT AND WE HAVE TWO OUT RIGHT NOW BEING REBUILT AND A COUPLE MORE. >> THE 50 -- >> THAT -- THE -- IF I LOOK AT THE CONSTRUCTION DOCUMENTS PROPOSAL, SITE REVIEW, PRELIMINARY CONCEPT, REFINE CONCEPT , A FINAL CONCEPT , THE DELIVERABLES FOR THAT , WOULD BE THE SITE EVALUATION, FINAL CONCEPT AND COST ESTIMATE THAT THERE WOULD BE DRAWINGS THAT WE COULD LOOK AT, AT THAT POINT, BEFORE CONSTRUCTION DOCUMENTS ARE DONE, THE WHOLE COMMUNITY, INCLUDING MOSTLY THE SKATE PARK COMMUNITY , SHOULD HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO LOOK AT IT, THIS IS WHAT WE WANT, THIS MAKES SENSE. FROM THAT, COULD WE HAVE AN IDEA BEFORE WE GO TO CONSTRUCTION DOCUMENTS , ABOUT WHAT THE COST WOULD BE ? >> CORRECT, THAT FIRST CONCEPT DESIGN , YOU WOULD HAVE A FINAL CONCEPT WITH MEETINGS IN BETWEEN TO DEVELOP THE CONCEPT . YOU WOULD HAVE A PROBABLE COST TO KNOW WHAT THIS WOULD LOOK LIKE PRIOR TO MOVING FORWARD WITH ENGINEERING, THE MORE COSTLY ASPECT OF THE DESIGN. FOR THAT, WE WOULD HAVE A BIGGER COST, SO THAT WE WOULD UNDERSTAND , IS IT ALL BEEN PAID FOR BY THE CITY? IS THERE A PRIVATE COMPONET THAT COULD PAY FOR PART OF IT? WHAT THIS DOES IS GIVE US AN OPPORTUNITY FOR EVERYBODY TO LOOK AT THE CONCEPT OF -- IN DETAIL, AND BE ABLE TO SAY, YES, THAT IS WHAT WE WANT AND THAT MAKES SENSE, AND WE WOULD HAVE OPTIONS ON HOW WE WOULD MOVE FORWARD? IS THAT REASONABLE? >> ABSOLUTELY. >> OKAY. IT SEEMS TO ME THAT IF WE GO DIRECTLY INTO CONSTRUCTION DRAWINGS, WE COULD END UP WITH A BUNCH OF CONSTRUCTION DRAWINGS THAT WE WANTED TO CHANGE AND THAT IS ADDITIONAL MONEY. >> AT THE PLEASURE OF THE MAYOR. >> PLEASE COME TO THE PODIUM. >> MIKE NICHOLS, I AM ON THE BOARD OF THE SKATE PARK THE PROCESS, THE FIRST PHASE IS THE CONCEPT PHASE , WE WOULD NEVER GOING FROM THE CONCEPT TO ARCHITECTURAL PHASE DESIGN UNTIL THE CONCEPT PHASE IS DOWN AND SET. THE PROCESS, THE CONTRACTOR COMES IN, THERE IS A TEAM, THE FRIENDS OF FERNANDINA BEACH SKATE PARK AND NUMBERS OF THE COMMUNITY , THEY HAVE REPRESENTED -- ONCE THE CONCEPT IS SET, WE WILL NOT GO INTO ARCHITECTURAL DESIGN FOR CONSTRUCTION DOCUMENTS UNTIL THAT IS FINALIZED . IT IS ABOUT A THREE MONTH TIME TO DO THE CONCEPT. ALONE. -- >> IT WOULD NOT MAKE ANY DIFFERENCE TO ONLY APPROVE THROUGH THAT CONCEPT COMPONENT TONIGHT? YOU DON'T NEED CONSTRUCTION DRAWINGS TO DO THAT . >> THE CONSTRUCTION DRAWINGS ARE A RESULT OF THE CONCEPT DESIGN . >> UNTIL THE CONCEPT DESIGN IS APPROVED -- >> YOU CANNOT START CONSTRUCTION. >> TONIGHT, WE SHOULD ONLY APPROVE THROUGH -- >> WELL WHAT HAPPENS , YOU DON'T WANT TO PUSH NUMBERS I DON'T WANT TO PUSH THE CAN DOWN THE ROAD. >> I DON'T EITHER, BUT I SO WANT TO MAKE SURE WE ARE DOING THE RIGHT THING IN THE RIGHT ORDER. >> THE $90,000 GIVES YOU THE ABILITY TO DO THE CONCEPT , AND THE COMMUNITY INVOLVEMENT, AND ROLL RIGHT INTO THE CONSTRUCTION -- THIS IS TO BUILD A BLUEPRINT THAT IS [01:50:02] NEEDING MORE DETAIL THAN WHAT THE COST WILL BE. THAT -- THE CONCEPT IS JUST DRAWINGS , A PAINTING OF WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE VERSUS CONSTRUCTION DOCUMENTS, GIVE YOU THE ACTUAL SUMMIT HOW MUCH -- HOW MUCH CEMENT WE NEED TO >> DELIVERABLES INCLUDE COST ESTIMATES . >> THAT WILL BE WROUGHT AT THAT POINT. FOR THE CONCEPT DESIGN. >> OKAY. >> IT WILL BE A CONTINUOUS EVENT. IF THE CONTRACTOR DOES SEND A TEAM IN , BOOTS ON THE GROUND, AND WE BUILD UP THE STAKEHOLDER TEAMS, VET THAT OUT, DECIDE WHAT THIS LOOKS LIKE TO COMPLEMENT THE AREA, AND SAY, YES, AND DO THE CONSTRUCTION DIAGRAMS. >> WITH THE NECK PROCESS, THE PARKS AND RECREATION BOARD THIS BOARD NEEDS TO AGREE , SO YOU WOULD HAVE A PAUSE REGARDLESS. WHETHER WE APPROVE $30,000 TONIGHT OR $90,000, YOU WILL STILL HAVE A PAUSE BEFORE YOU GO FROM THE DELIVERABLES , WHICH ARE THE SITE EVALUATION , THE FINAL CONCEPT, COST ESTIMATE. OKAY. THANK YOU. >> COMMISSIONER POYNTER? >> ONLY INTERESTED IN IMPROVING THE LOWER NUMBER TONIGHT BECAUSE WE DON'T KNOW THE COST AND I AM NOT COMFORTABLE WITH COMMITTING TO $90,000 WHEN I DO NOT KNOW WHAT THE DESIGN WILL BE AND WHAT THAT MIGHT COSTING. I AM IN FAVOR OF LOOKING AT THE DESIGN AND GETTING CONSENSUS ON THE DESIGN BECAUSE IT CAN VARY A LOT OF THE FINAL PRICE. I DO NOT WANT TO COMMIT TO THE $90,000 AT THIS TIME. I WILL BE VOTING FOR THE ALTERNATIVE. JUST SO MY FELLOW COMMISSIONERS KNOW WHERE MY HEAD IS AT. >> I HAVE MEET WITH MIKE AND WALLY AND KENNY AT THE STATE PARK TO GET AN IDEA OF THEIR DESIGN FOR THE RECORD. I PLAYED SPORTS ALL MY LIFE, I COACHED SPORTS. I PLAYED SOCCER IN COLLEGE . I AM A BIG FAN OF WORLD-CLASS FACILITIES. I AM A HUGE FAN OF GETTING KIDS OUTSIDE, ESPECIALLY DURING -- ESPECIALLY DOING SOMETHING CREATIVE, KIDS ARE UNDER THE DIRECTION OF AN ADULT WHO IS COACHING THEM , BUT ALSO STEMMING THEIR CREATIVITY. I AM VERY IN FAVOR OF APPROVING THIS PARK. I THINK IT IS GREAT FOR KIDS. I THINK THERE IS NOT A LOT HERE, WE DO SPEND A LOT ON THE ADULTS HERE. I AM SUPER CONCERNED ABOUT THE COST AND UNDERSTANDING THE COST. GIVEN THAT IT HAS TO GO STEPWISE, AND ALL OF THE UNKNOWN COSTS WE HAVE COMING BEFORE US, ESPECIALLY WHERE POTENTIALLY FEES CAN COME FROM, CAN'T WE SAVE IMPACT FEES AT THE WATERFRONT PARK TO USE FOR THIS? CAN THE TDC DESIGN IDEAS WITH BEACH HARMONIZATION ? CAN THE COUNTY GIVE US SOME FUNDS? SURELY THERE ARE COUNTY KIDS WHO WILL USE THIS IF IT IS A GREAT FACILITY . SO MANY UNKNOWNS, I AM VERY COMFORTABLE DOING DESIGN AND GETTING THE COST ESTIMATE. I AM NOT COMFORTABLE GOING ALL THE WAY TO CONSTRUCTION DOCUMENTS WITHOUT MORE INFORMATION. >> THANK YOU , COMMISSIONER TUTEN . VICE MAYOR? >> WELL, I AM OBVIOUSLY VERY SUPPORTIVE OF THE SKATING COMMUNITY. WE FOUND THIS $90,000 , IN THE WILL OF THE COMMISSION, TO WANT TO HIT THE PAUSE BUTTON AFTER THE DESIGN, I AM OKAY WITH THAT. BUT, I THINK, WHAT THIS COMMUNITY IS ASKING, THE QUESTION THAT WAS ASKED , WHERE IS THIS COMMISSION'S COMMITMENT TO THE [01:55:06] SKATE PARK ? THAT IS WHAT THEY WANT TO KNOW AND WHY THEY ARE HERE AND THEY WANT TO KNOW WHERE THIS COMMISSION'S COMMITMENT IS TO THE SKATE PARK BUT I AM OMITTED TO IT NO DIFFERENT THAN I WAS A MONTH AGO. AT THIS COMMISSION , IF THEY WANT TO VET THIS, I UNDERSTAND THERE ARE OTHER COMPONENTS TO THIS, BEACH PARKING BEING ONE OF THEM, THIS WILL BECOME AN ISSUE IF YOU EXPAND THE SKATE PARK. IT WILL BRING MORE PEOPLE . THAT IS WHAT WE WANT, WE WANT A WORLD-CLASS SKATE PARK. THERE IS A LOT OF VETTING THAT NEEDS TO BE DONE. I WANTED TO GET WITH PARKS AND REC, STAY ON TOP OF THAT, THAT IS THE -- I AM OKAY WITH THAT, I THINK THE ANSWER THEY'RE LOOKING FOR TONIGHT IS, WHERE IS YOUR COMMITMENT ON THIS? >> COMMISSIONER TUTEN? >> I WOULD LIKE TO SAY ONE OF THE THING I HAVE LEARNED, WHEN I MET WITH THE FRIENDS OF THE SKATE PARK. SIMILAR TO PETANQUE COURTS TO HOST A TOURNAMENT, IF THAT FRIENDS WILL BE ABLE TO HOST SANCTIONED EVENTS , THEY NEED AN EXPANDED PARK. FOR OTHER PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY, THAT IS SIMILAR TO SOMEONE WHO SPOKE ABOUT HOW MANY PEOPLE WERE HERE FOR PETANQUE FOR THE THREE-DAY WEEKEND . A LARGE SKATING EVENT WOULD BRING IN A LOT OF PEOPLE AND I THINK IT IS SOMETHING WE COULD BRING IN THE TDC ON BOARD WITH FOR MONEY BECAUSE IT SERVES MORE THAN JUST A SMALL SEGMENT OF THE COMMUNITY. >> THANKS. COMMISSIONER MINSHEW? >> I AM COMMITTED TO A WORLD-CLASS DAYPART AND IMPROVING OPPORTUNITIES FOR YOUTH IN OUR COMMUNITY. I ALWAYS HAVE BEEN AND I WILL CONTINUE TO DO THAT. BUT I WANT TO DO IT IN A WAY THAT IS THOUGHTFUL AND WELL DOCUMENTED IN TERMS OF COST AN MAINTENANCE. AND LONG-TERM IMPACT TO EVERYONE. BASED ON THAT, I WOULD MOVE THAT , WE ADOPT RESOLUTION 2024 ¿ 2022 THROUGH THE DELIVERABLES OF SITE EVALUATION FINAL CONCEPT AND COST ESTIMATE AND HOLD BACK THE CONSTRUCTION DRAWING COMPONENT. UNTIL EVERYONE HAS HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO REVIEW IT, WHICH WOULD CHANGE THE AMOUNT TO $30,000. >> SECOND. >> ANY COMMISSIONER DISCUSSION ? >> I DO SUPPORT THIS PART AND WHY I AM WILLING TO APPROVE THE AMENDED MOTION AND PUTTING MY FINANCES AS A BEGINNING CONTRIBUTION. >> PLEASE CALL THE ROLE. >> MINSHEW? >> YES . >> POYNTER? >> YES . >> AYSCUE? >> YES . >> VOTE IS 5-0. * This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.