[1. CALL TO ORDER]
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>> SEPTEMBER 10TH, 2024, PARKS AND RECREATION ADVISORY COMMITTEE, REGULAR MEETING.
>> MEMBER VOUNDRIN. MEMBER GOLDMAN?
>> PLEASE STAND FOR THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE.
[4. APPROVAL OF MINUTES]
APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES, THE AUGUST 2024 REGULAR MEETING MINUTES.>> I MOVE TO APPROVE THE MINUTES.
>> ANY DISCUSSION? PLEASE TAKE THE ROOM.
>> NUMBER 5. PUBLIC COMMENTS REGARDING ITEMS NOT ON THE AGENDA.
DOES THERE ANYBODY HERE WISH TO SPEAK? NUMBER 6. DISCUSSION ITEMS,
[6.1 Art In Public Places: Review Public Art Ordinance And Application]
THE ART IN PUBLIC PLACES, REVIEW OF THE PUBLIC ART ORDINANCE AND APPLICATIONS.>>GOOD EVENING, EVERYBODY. SCOTT MICHAELSON, DIRECTOR OF PARKS AND RECREATION.
I WANTED TO BRING THIS BACK FORMALLY TO THE BOARD FOR THEIR REVIEW.
WHAT I THINK IS IMPORTANT THAT THIS IS GOING TO GIVE YOU THE OPPORTUNITY TO ACTUALLY TAKE A REAL CLOSE LOOK AT THE EXISTING ORDINANCE, AND ALSO THE PUBLIC ART APPLICATION, THE FULL APPLICATION, ALONG WITH CITY OF FERNANDINA BEACH TEMPORARY AND PERMANENT ART ACQUISITION PROCESS.
IN YOUR PACKET THAT YOU RECEIVED FOR THIS MEETING, IT DOES HAVE THE APPLICATION.
IT ALSO GOES INTO DETAIL ABOUT THE ACQUISITION PROCESS AND THEN IN ADDITION TO THAT, THERE WAS THE ORDINANCE THAT WAS RECENTLY UPDATED.
IF YOU REMEMBER EARLIER THIS YEAR, ARTS AND CULTURE, NASSAU WAS SUNSETTED, AND THE COMMISSION UPDATED THE ORDINANCE TO HAVE PUBLIC AND PERMANENT ART TO BE REVIEWED BY THE PARKS AND RECREATION ADVISORY COMMITTEE.
WHAT STAFF IS GOING TO RECOMMEND IS THAT WE TAKE AT LEAST ONE OR IF NOT, TWO WORKSHOPS.
I DON'T THINK THIS IS NECESSARILY THE PLACE TO REVIEW THIS ENTIRE DOCUMENT.
WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO DO IS SCHEDULE A COUPLE OF WORKSHOPS FOR AT LEAST TWO, THREE, OR AS MANY PEOPLE OF THIS BOARD WOULD LIKE TO SIT DOWN AND TAKE A DEEP DIVE INTO THE APPLICATION PROCESS, AND ALSO THE ACQUISITION PROCESS.
WITH THAT IS EVEN POSSIBLY BRING IN MEMBERS FROM WHAT USED TO BE THE ARTS AND CULTURE NASSAU GROUP.
MR. JOHN ABBOTT, I BELIEVE SPOKE AT ONE OF THE LAST MEETINGS, AND ALSO MR. RICHARD ESTIANO, WHO IS THE CHAIR IS HERE TONIGHT AS WELL.
BEFORE WE WERE TO MAKE ANY DECISIONS REGARDING PERMANENT AND PUBLIC ART, I JUST THINK IT'S BEST FOR THIS BOARD TO REALLY TAKE A DEEP DIVE AND LOOK AT THE PROCESS AND ARE YOU OKAY WITH THAT PROCESS?
>> THANKS, SCOTT. YOU AND I HAD A CONVERSATION OVER THIS WEEK.
I THINK IT'S GREAT THAT WE SHOULD HAVE SOME WORKSHOPS ON THIS.
ONE OF THE THINGS I WOULD REALLY LIKE TO SEE AND I DIDN'T GET AS FAR AS I HAD HOPED JUST IN THE LAST COUPLE OF DAYS.
BUT I'LL LOOK SOMEWHERE AS WELL.
BUT ONE THING I WOULD LOVE TO SEE IF YOU GUYS CAN LOOK INTO AS WELL,
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IS THERE CITIES AROUND THE COUNTRY WHO REALLY ARE ARTFUL CITIES WHO HAVE A LOT OF ART INSTALLATIONS, AND I JUST DID A COUPLE OF SIMPLE GOOGLE SEARCHES TRYING TO FIND OUT WHAT KIND OF PROTOCOLS AND THINGS THAT THEY'RE ASKING FOR.ONE THING AND I TALKED ABOUT IT WHEN WE MENTIONED THIS BEFORE, AND WAS MOST OF THE NOTES THAT I TOOK IN THE DRAFT THAT YOU SENT US IS DEFINING PERMANENCY.
IT LISTED HERE IS ONE YEAR, BUT I FEEL LIKE THAT LEAVES A WHOLE LOT TO I WOULD RATHER SEE THING, AND WE CAN DISCUSS THIS AT A WORKSHOP.
BUT REALLY LOOKING AT WHAT DOES THAT MEAN? BECAUSE FOREVER, PEOPLE AREN'T HERE FOREVER, AND MATERIALS DON'T LAST FOREVER AND SO MAYBE THERE'S SOME TERMS AND THINGS LIKE THAT WE CAN TRY TO DETERMINE, BUT I WOULD REALLY LIKE FOR US TO TAKE WHAT WE ALL READY HAVE AND MAYBE COMPARE IT TO SOME CITIES THAT ARE PROBABLY LARGER THAN US.
BUT WE SHOULDN'T BE RECREATING THE WHEEL.
I'M SURE THERE ARE PEOPLE WHO DO THIS ALL READY AND WE CAN TAKE FROM THEIR BEST PRACTICES.
>> I DO KNOW WITH THE ARTS AND CULTURE COMMITTEE PREVIOUSLY.
I KNOW THEY DID DO SOME OF THAT WORK AND I FEEL THAT WE CAN SMOOTH OUT SOME OF THOSE QUESTIONS IN THOSE WORKSHOPS AND THEN BE ABLE TO BRING IT BACK TO THE BOARD FOR A FORMAL APPROVAL.
REMEMBER, THERE ARE TWO SEPARATE BOARDS THAT WILL BE APPROVING.
ANYTHING IN THE HISTORIC AREA, THE HDC AND THE HISTORIC DISTRICT COMMITTEE WOULD BE APPROVING THAT.
THEN OUTSIDE OF THAT, AND THIS IS JUST AN EXAMPLE, THE SUMMER HOUSE REALITY BENCH THAT ACTUALLY WENT THROUGH THIS PROCESS OR THROUGH THE ARTS AND CULTURE NASSAU GROUP.
SO THAT ACTUALLY IS COMING UP, I BELIEVE IN JANUARY.
THEY FALL UNDER TEMPORARY ART.
>> MAYBE I WAS READING IT TOO QUICKLY AND IT'S DENSE.
WHO WOULD HAVE THE HIERARCHY? IS IT, IT GETS ALL APPROVED THROUGH ALL THE CHANNELS AND THEN THE FINAL STOP BEFORE IT GOES TO THE COMMISSION IS PARKS AND REC, OR DOES IT?
>> THE WAY THAT IT'S WRITTEN RIGHT NOW IS TEMPORARY ARC, ANYTHING THAT IS TEMPORARY ARC, IF IT FALLS WITHIN THE HISTORIC DISTRICT, IT GOES TO HDC, THEY CAN APPROVE THAT.
THERE'S ACTUALLY LOCATIONS THAT ARE EXISTING.
THEY NEED TO REVIEW THOSE EXISTING LOCATIONS BECAUSE, FOR EXAMPLE, THE POCKET PARK IS ONE OF THOSE.
SOME OF THOSE LOCATIONS WILL BE GOING AWAY AND THEN IN THE HISTORIC DISTRICT, IF IT'S PERMANENT ART AFTER THE FORMAL APPROVAL THROUGH HDC, IT HAS TO GO TO THE COMMISSION FOR A FINAL APPROVAL FOR PERMANENT ART.
ANYTHING OUTSIDE OF THAT, THE WAY IT'S WRITTEN RIGHT NOW, WOULD GO THROUGH PARKS AND RECREATION.
IF IT'S TEMPORARY, YOU ARE THE BODY THAT WOULD APPROVE THAT.
IF IT'S PERMANENT, YOUR RECOMMENDATION WOULD THEN GO ON TO THE CITY COMMISSION.
>> DOES IT MAKE SENSE? WOULD IT MAKE SENSE THAT IF IT'S SOMETHING THAT'S IN THE HISTORIC DISTRICT, IT WOULD GO THERE AND THEN COME HERE BEFORE? I'M JUST WONDERING, HOPEFULLY THEY'LL BE IN THE WORKSHOP, LIKE THEY'LL BE PART OF THIS COLLABORATION.
>> YEAH. I ACTUALLY HAVE ASKED KELLY GIBSON AS WELL ALL READY TO WHEN WE SET THOSE WORKSHOPS THAT SHE COULD BE AVAILABLE FOR THAT.
>> AND BECAUSE YOU'VE HAD A CONVERSATION WITH SCOTT AS WELL, SO MAYBE BRING UP YOUR POINTS.
>> THERE'S TWO POINTS THAT I THINK THAT HAS TO BE, I DO NOT WANT TO HAVE ONCE SOMETHING HAS BEEN APPROVED BY THE, LET'S SAY THE ART DEPARTMENT OF THIS GROUP OF PEOPLE AND THEY BRING IT BACK TO US, I WANT TO HAVE IT PUT ON NOTICE THAT THAT MEETING THAT PEOPLE CAN COME AND TALK AND GET THE PUBLIC'S REACTION TO WHERE THE PLACEMENT OF WHAT THE ART IS AND WHERE IT'S BEING PLACED.
I WOULD WANT TO HAVE THE CITY INVOLVED IN HEARING THEIR PROS AND CONS FOR THE ART, OR DO A TOWN HALL.
>> ONE THING THAT WE COULD DO WITHIN FOR PRAC IS IT WOULD BE ON THE AGENDA THAT WE, AS IN PARKS AND RECREATION ADVISORY COMMITTEE IS EITHER REVIEWING
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A TEMPORARY PIECE OF ART OR WE ARE REVIEWING A PERMANENT PIECE OF ART AND AT EVERY MEETING, YOU CAN MAKE COMMENTS ON THAT.WE COULD DO IT THAT WAY OR WORK OUT WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT IN OUR WORKSHOP. THAT'S OUTSTANDING.
THE SECOND IS THE ABILITY TO DETERMINE THE RESPONSIBILITIES OF SOMEBODY THAT PUTS UP A PIECE OF PERMANENT ART IN THE CITY AND HOW IT'S UP KEPT FROM THE STANDPOINT, DOES THE ARTIST KEEP IT UP? DOES THE CITY KEEP IT UP? VANDALISM HITS IT, SO ALL THOSE THINGS.
>> IN A WAY, YEAH AND SOME OF THAT IT IS IN THERE, YES.
TEMPORARY ART IS THE ARTIST STILL OWNS IT.
PERMANENT ART. ACTUALLY, THE RESPONSIBILITY OF IT IT DOES TURN OVER TO THE CITY.
THE CITY IS RESPONSIBLE FOR THAT.
BUT GOING BACK TO YOUR POINT IS MAYBE WE CAN CLEAN THAT UP A LITTLE BIT MORE.
WHAT EXACTLY IS PERMANENT? IS PERMANENT FOREVER, OR IS IT?
>> YEAH. I THINK WE CAN GO THROUGH THAT STUFF IN A WORKSHOP TO THEN PRESENT IT BACK TO THE BOARD.
>> YOU SENT THIS OUT TO US TWO WEEKS AGO, OR A WEEK AGO?
>> A WEEK IS TIME ENOUGH TO READ THIS GUYS.
WE COULD HAVE GONE THROUGH THIS AND ALL READY HAVE RIGHT NOW IN FRONT OF US, THOSE QUESTIONS YOU JUST ASKED ARE IN HERE.
WHEN IT COMES TO PERMANENT, LET ME GO AHEAD AND READ IT, IT MEANS ARTWORK CREATED EITHER AS A DONATION OF TO THE CITY OR BY THE CITY INTENDED TO BE IN PLACE FOR A PERIOD GREATER THAN ONE YEAR, PERMANENT ART IS FOR MORE THAN ONE YEAR.
THAT'S NOT SOMETHING WE SHOULD BE DISCUSSING WITH ANOTHER GROUP IF IT'S IN THIS ORDINANCE ALL READY.
THIS IS AN ORDINANCE THAT WAS DONE BY THE ARTS AND CULTURE COUNCIL BEFORE THEY WERE SUNSETTED.
ALL THE WORDS THAT WERE DONE, THE WORK THAT THEY DID, PARKS AND RECREATION DID TO ELIMINATE CERTAIN WORDS, THIS IS ALL IN HERE. IT'S ALL IN HERE.
>> I HAVE ISSUES WITH PERMANENT BECAUSE PERMANENT TO ME MEANS FOREVER.
>> IT SAYS ON HERE, MORE THAN ONE YEARS.
>> SO MORE THAN ONE YEAR, WE KNOW IF IT'S MORE THAN ONE YEAR IS PERMANENT.
>> BUT WHAT IF WE PUT UP SOMETHING THAT IS DATED? WHAT IF WE PUT UP SOMETHING THAT WAS LIKE A FLIP PHONE, A STATUE OF A FLIP PHONE, AND 20 YEARS FROM NOW, WE'RE TELEPATHICALLY DOING THINGS AND FLIP PHONES ARE NOT A THING.
DO WE WANT THAT AS AN ART INSTALLATION?
>> WE HAVE A STATUE OF MR. YULEE OUT THERE.
>> THAT'S OVER 100-YEARS-OLD, ISN'T IT?
>> PERMANENT IS UNDEFINED WORD HERE OTHER THAN OVER A YEAR.
WHAT IF THERE WAS AN OPTION TO REVIEW THE PIECES OF ART YEARLY? THE PERMANENT, JUST LOOK AT IT AND SAY, OKAY, THIS IS DOING GREAT, IT'S BEEN KEPT UP, WE'LL CARRY FORWARD.
IF THERE'S A REAL PROBLEM, SAY, THE CITY FOR PERMANENT NEEDS TO EITHER FIX IT OR TAKE IT AWAY.
I APOLOGIZE, AND I READ THIS THE FIRST TIME IT CAME OUT AND DIDN'T GET TO AT THIS TIME.
>> RIGHT NOW IT SAYS: PERMANENT WORKS OF ART WILL REMAIN THE PROPERTY AND RESPONSIBILITY OF THE CITY OF FERNANDINA BEACH UNTIL SUCH TIME AS OWNERSHIP IS TRANSFERRED TO ANOTHER PARTY.
>> AGAIN, I JUST FEEL LIKE THERE SHOULD BE SOME TERMS, AND I FEEL LIKE THAT'S WHAT WE SHOULD TALK ABOUT AT A WORKSHOP.
IS LIKE WHAT ARE THESE TERMS ABOUT THAT? BECAUSE IN MY MIND, OKAY, WHAT IF THERE ARE STATUES ALL OVER THIS COUNTRY BEING TAKEN DOWN FOR POLITICAL REASONS, SO I JUST FEEL LIKE IT NEEDS MORE PARAMETERS.
SOME CLEAR DEFINITION SO THAT WE DON'T ENACT SOMETHING THAT'S GOING TO BE A PROBLEM.
WHAT IF WE HAVE SOMEBODY WHO DOES SOME ART AND THEY DO SOMETHING BAD IN LIFE AND THEN WE'RE LIKE, WE DON'T WANT TO BE REPRESENTING THAT PERSON UP ON THE SIDE OF A BUILDING OR IN A GIANT STATUE DOWNTOWN WHERE PEOPLE ARE RECOGNIZING THIS PERSON, AND WE NEED TO REMOVE THAT.
>> THAT WAS ONE OF THE REASONS COUNCILMAN ROSS BROUGHT UP ABOUT NAMING POE PINSON SKATE PARK, BECAUSE OF THOSE REASONS, BASICALLY.
>> USUALLY, AND THERE'S NOT CLEAR PARAMETERS IN OUR CITY ORDINANCE ABOUT NAMING THINGS LIKE THAT.
SO I FEEL LIKE THAT FALLS UNDER THE SAME DISCUSSION,
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AND I FEEL LIKE IT JUST SHOULD BE THOUGHTFUL WHEN WE'RE DOING IT.>> WE'LL CHANGE THE LOCATION OF THE ART.
>> SO RIGHT NOW, THE ONLY ITEMS THAT HAVE SPECIFIC LOCATIONS, AND YOU CAN IF YOU WANT TO PULL IT UP, IT'S IN THE PARK SERVER.
IT'S IN THE NEXT MEETING, WHICH IS TODAY'S DATE, THE HDC ART LOCATION PLACEMENT.
IF YOU COULD PUT THAT UP THERE.
SO THE ONLY PLACES THAT HAVE BEEN THAT ARE MAPPED ARE IN THE DOWNTOWN AREA.
THERE HAS BEEN SOME OTHER ART, AND THIS WAS BEFORE THIS WAS PUT INTO PLACE.
BUT ONE OF THE OTHER PLACES THAT PEOPLE WILL, I BELIEVE, WANT TO PLACE ART IS AT THE BEACH.
AND THAT WOULD BE ONE AREA THAT WOULD FALL UNDER US.
CURRENTLY OUTSIDE THE DOWNTOWN AREA.
>> TELL ME AGAIN, HDC UNDER PRAC.
>> UNDER PRAC, UNDER NEXT MEETING.
>> TODAY'S DATE, AND THEN HDC.
WE DO NOT HAVE ANY LOCATIONS THAT ARE CURRENTLY IN FOR PERMANENT OR TEMPORARY.
>> RIGHT NOW, THE ONLY ONE IS THE BENCH.
THAT'S THE ONLY ARTWORK THAT IS PUBLIC ART IN OUR CITY.
>> YES, SIR. AND THAT TECHNICALLY IS NOT IN THE HISTORIC DISTRICT.
>> AND IF PUBLIC ART PROGRAM IS TO CONTRIBUTE TO THE QUALITY OF LIFE OF ITS CITIZENS, THE ECONOMIC SUCCESSES OF ITS BUSINESSES, AND ATTRACTION FOR VISITORS AND BENEFITS TO TOURISM AND THE AESTHETICS ENHANCEMENT OF THE COMMUNITY.
SO WE HAVE ZERO OF THAT. ZERO.
>> I THINK WE HAVE LOTS OF OPPORTUNITIES.
I'M THINKING RIGHT [OVERLAPPING] NOW PARK, WE OUGHT TO HAVE.
>> RIGHT NOW, IF YOU WANT TO SEE ART, IT'S ALL BY THE PUBLIC.
THE PALACE SALOON HAS THE COCA COLA LINE.
RIGHT THERE ON THAT BEACH AREA, WE HAVE THE BUTTERFLIES.
WE HAVE THE ARTS DOWNTOWN, THAT BUILDING THAT HAS IT'S BECAUSE OF PRIVATE PROPERTY THAT WE HAVE ART IN THIS CITY.
IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH WHAT WE ARE DOING, BUT WE NEED TO.
THIS IS RIGHT BY THE BIKE SHOP.
WE HAVE ANOTHER ONE BEHIND HAIR STUDIO.
AND THEN THE GREEN TURTLE HAS GOT ART THROUGHOUT ITS ENTIRE PLACE.
THESE ARE PRIVATE PLACES AS YOU GO OUT OFF OF THAT NEW AREA THAT HAS JOYCE TOTINS ADVERTISEMENT.
I JUST SAW TODAY THEY PUT UP SOMETHING FOR STURGIS AS WELL.
THESE ARE ART PIECES THAT ARE PRIVATE PROPERTY.
WE NEED TO GET SOMETHING IN OUR CITY, AND WE AS A GROUP HAVE TO SEE IF WE CAN GET SOME PUBLIC ART RATHER THAN A BENCH.
THERE'S BEEN AN APPLICATION THAT WAS PUT IN ON MAY 13, AND IT'S STILL SITTING.
WE ACCEPTED THE MEETING MINUTES FROM LAST WEEK.
AND IN THOSE MINUTES FROM LAST WEEK, IT WAS A PUBLIC ART APPLICATION.
AND IN THOSE MEETINGS, A MOTION WAS APPROVED, THE APPLICATION THAT WAS GIVEN BY FRIENDS OF FERNANDINA SKATE PARK THAT WILL MAINTAIN THE MURAL AND TO PAUSE ALL FUTURE APPLICATIONS UNTIL THE BOARD HAS A WORKSHOP AND REVIEWS APPLICATIONS.
THERE WAS A SECOND AND IT WAS APPROVED FOUR TO ONE.
AND IT STILL THERE'S NO ZERO NOTIFICATION.
WE GOT AN EMAIL SAYING THAT ONCE IT WAS APPROVED, NOW WE'RE GOING TO GO BACK AND GO THROUGH THIS THAT WE'VE HAD FOR A WHILE, BECAUSE THE FIRST TIME IT WAS SENT OUT.
>> DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS?
I MEAN, THEY CAN MOVE FORWARD WITH THEIR PROJECT, CORRECT?
>> [OVERLAPPING] WELL, WHAT I WANTED TO DO IS.
THERE THERE SEEMED TO BE SOME CONFUSION THAT NIGHT.
>> THERE SEEMED TO BE SOME CONFUSION THAT NIGHT.
SO BEFORE MOVING IT TO THE COMMISSION LEVEL, I WANTED TO ENSURE, THAT EACH ONE OF YOU WERE AWARE OF THE EXISTING PROCESS AND BECAUSE SOME OF THOSE STATEMENTS WERE MADE DURING THAT MEETING.
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SO AS OF RIGHT NOW, NO, I HAVE NOT SENT IT TO THE CITY COMMISSION. THAT IS CORRECT.>> AND TO THE WHERE I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT THE PUBLIC LIKES IT.
WE NEED TO HAVE A HEARING SO THE PUBLIC CAN SEE THE ART.
WE NEED TO SEE THE PEOPLE AND TALK TO THE PEOPLE TO MAKE SURE THAT THIS IS APPROPRIATE THAT THEY WANT THIS IN THE CITY.
AND MAYBE THE APPLICATION COULD HAVE BEEN APPROVED, AND I UNDERSTAND THE APPLICATION IS APPROVED, BUT I REALLY WOULD LIKE TO SEE MORE INPUT.
SO WHEN WE DO SOMETHING FROM NOW ON, WE HAVE THE BACKING OF THE PUBLIC.
SO WE DON'T HAVE ANOTHER JOVIAL ARTY.
SO AND KNOW THE HISTORY AND KNOW THE ARTIST AND KNOW EVERYTHING ABOUT IT.
SO BEFORE WE EVEN PUT BRUSH TO WHATEVER.
>> AND IS IT FAIR TO SAY THIS IS OUTSIDE TOO OF THE APPLICATION THAT'S OUT IN RIGHT NOW IN THE LIMBO.
SO I'M NOT MAKING LIGHT OF THAT, BUT I THINK THIS IS FOR REALLY, LIKE FUTURE BECAUSE TO YOUR POINT, WE DON'T HAVE A LOT OF PLACES IDENTIFIED WHERE WE CAN, AND I THINK THERE ARE A LOT OF PLACES WHERE WE COULD PUT PUBLIC ART, AND I WANT TO BE SURE IN THE LONG TERM OUTSIDE COMPLETELY INDEPENDENT OF YOUR APPLICATION THAT WE ARE GETTING THIS RIGHT AND MAKING SURE THAT IT'S VERY CLEAR ABOUT ANYTHING THAT COULD COME OUR WAY AS WE START IDENTIFYING PLACES AND PEOPLE START SUBMITTING WORK THAT WE COULD ACTUALLY IMPLEMENT TO BUILD OUT ALL THE THINGS THAT YOU'RE SAYING.
SO I THINK WE'RE SAYING THE SAME THING.
I'M SEEING THIS AS TWO SEPARATE ISSUES, TWO INDEPENDENT ISSUES.
THE DRAFTING OF THE ORDINANCE ALL OVER, CLARIFYING ALL OF THESE RULES WITH A SERIES OF WORKSHOPS.
AND I WAS UNDER THE IMPRESSION THAT WE HAD ALREADY APPROVED THE SKATE PARK PIECE.
>> [OVERLAPPING] SO REASON ARE GOING.
I JUST WANT TO CHIME IN A LITTLE BIT, KATIE RIVERA, DEPUTY DIRECTOR OF PRAION.
SOMETHING ALSO THAT THE REASON WHY SCOTT HOLD DON'T THINK HE'S REMEMBERING IS WE DON'T WANT THIS APPLICATION TO GO TO COMMISSION, AND THEN WHEN THEY ASKED US IF PRAT SUPPORTED IT, WE WERE LIKE IN THE UNKNOWN OF IT, AND WE JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT ALTHOUGH YOU APPROVED IT, WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT 100% WE HAVE THE SUPPORT BECAUSE THEY'RE GOING TO ASK THOSE QUESTIONS.
THEY'RE GOING TO ASK IF THE COMMUNITY SAW IT.
THEY'RE GOING TO ASK THOSE THINGS AND WE DON'T WANT IT TO BE TURNED DOWN BY COMMISSION TO THEN COME BACK TO CRACK AND EXTEND THE PROCESS.
SO WE'RE WE'RE PUTTING A WORKSHOP IN PLACE HOPEFULLY SO WE CAN MOVE FORWARD QUICKER THAN CIRCLING BACK.
>> AND I WOULD LIKE TO ADD TO THAT IF THIS BOARD NOW FEELS, AND YOU CAN LET ME KNOW TONIGHT IF YOU DO FEEL COMFORTABLE OR DO WANT STAFF TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THAT APPLICATION, I WILL MAKE SURE IT GOES TO THE COMMISSION.
>> SO YOU SAY WE HAVE TO REVOTE?
>> I JUST THINK THAT IF RIGHT NOW, IF YOU SEE THESE AS TWO DIFFERENT ITEMS, WHICH I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, IF YOU DO THAT, I WILL MOVE FORWARD.
I WILL FEEL CONFIDENT KNOWING THAT I BROUGHT THIS BACK TO YOU TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU ARE AWARE OF EVERYTHING AND THAT YOU STILL WANT TO PROCEED WITH THAT.
AND I WILL TAKE THAT TO THE COMMISSION.
ON THE ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE WERE TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH THAT WE KNEW WE WERE NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO ACCOMPLISH WAS TO HAVE THAT COMPLETED BY THE FESTIVAL, I THINK, WHICH IS IN [OVERLAPPING] YES.
SO IT WOULDN'T HAVE BEEN COMPLETED.
HOWEVER, WE CAN STILL PROCEED WITH THAT RIGHT NOW.
>> I ALREADY FORGET. I THINK THAT'S BEEN APPROVED.
IT'S BEEN THROUGH ALL THE PROCESSES IN PLACE.
AND SO I'M I'M PERFECTLY HAPPY WITH THE APPLICATION FOR THE SKATE PARK.
>> SO WHEN YOU GUYS REVIEWED THIS, IT SHOWS DATES ON HERE, JUNE 18, MY BIRTHDAY WAS THE FIRST READING.
THE DAY OF PUBLICATION WAS JULY 3.
AND THE SECOND AND FINAL READING WAS JULY 16.
>> BUT THAT WAS FOR THE SUN SETTING.
>> WE GOT A COPY OF I KNOW THAT I GOT A COPY OF THIS SENT TO ME BACK THEN.
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>> KATIE, DO YOU KNOW OFF THE TOP OF YOUR HEAD WHEN PARKS AND RECREATION WAS ALLOWED TO.
>> WE PUT IT ON THE FOLLOWING AGENDA, WHICH I BELIEVE WAS THE AUGUST AGENDA?
>> YEAH. SO WE PUT IT ON THE FIRST AGENDA THAT WE WERE ALLOWED TO PUT THAT PUBLIC ART ON.
SO AFTER IT GOT AFTER THE ORDINANCE GOT CHANGED FOR PRAC TO BE ABLE TO REVIEW THOSE PIECES, WE PUT IT ON THE NEXT MEETING, WHICH WAS AUGUST, I BELIEVE, WHICH ACTUALLY WAS LAST MONTH.
SO THAT WAS THE SOONEST THAT WE COULD PUT IT ON.
>> BUT SO IT WAS BECAUSE I WAS AT THE MEETING THE COMMISSION MEETING WHERE THEY SUNSET THE ARTS AND CORRECT.
AND THE FIRST TIME WE WERE SEEING IT THOUGH, IS WHEN THERE WAS AN APPLICATION THAT WAS BEING DISCUSSED.
>> THAT'S WHEN WE FIRST HEARD ABOUT WALLY.
>> SO FIRST, THERE WAS THE SUNSETTING OF ARTS AND CULTURE IN NASSAU. THAT WAS FIRST.
AND THEN WE HAD TO REWRITE THE ORDINANCE SO THAT IT WOULD TURN IN SO INSTEAD OF THE APPLICATIONS GOING TO ARTS AND CULTURE IN NASSAU, THEY WOULD GO TO PRAC AND HEC.
SO THAT'S WHAT HE'S REFERRING TO RIGHT NOW IS THE ORDINANCE, THE CHANGE OF ORDINANCE? YES. STATING. AND THAT WENT TO COMMISSION FOR TWO READINGS AND THE FINAL READING WAS ON JULY 16TH?
>> WHICH IT WAS AFTER OUR PRAC MEETING.
[OVERLAPPING] SO THE SERVICE PRAC MEETING AFTER THAT WHERE WE COULD SUBMIT ANY APPLICATIONS TO YOU GUYS. WAS IN AUGUST.
>> THAT'S [OVERLAPPING] WE RECEIVED THIS IN AUGUST.
SO US AS A GROUP HAS HAD THIS.
>> I'D LIKE TO ASK TWO QUESTIONS, WALLY.
HAS ANYBODY SEEN THE YARD ANY OF US SEEN THE YARD?
>> IT WAS THE RIGHT WAY WAS [OVERLAPPING]
>> SO THIS WAS AT OUR AUGUST MEETING.
AND THE BOARD DID VOTE TO MOVE FORWARD.
>> AND WE SAID WE WOULD APPROVE THIS AND PUT A MORATORIUM ON ANY FURTHER APPLICATION.
IS YOUR HANGOUT RIGHT NOW ABOUT THIS PROJECT OR ALL THE STUFF.
>> THAT'S WHY IT IS. WHAT IT IS IS A CONCERN.
AND THE CONCERN IS THAT WE HAVE HAD THIS SINCE AUGUST, WHEN IT WAS SUNSETTED, WE WERE SENT THIS PAPERWORK.
I MADE A COPY OF IT AND WAS READING IT AND UNDERSTANDING THE ALL THE XS THAT SHE AND THEIR GROUP DID, BECAUSE YOU GUYS WORKED ON IT FOR A WHILE.
AND THEY CROSSED OUT A BUNCH OF STUFF AND ADDED TO SO THIS IS THE SAME DRAFT THAT I GOT BACK IN AUGUST.
>> WHEN WE LOOKED AT THIS. BUT THAT WAS THAT WAS WHAT BROUGHT UP MY QUESTION ABOUT WHAT DOES PERMANENT MEAN? TO ME, PERMANENT MEANS THAT WHEN I'M DEAD AND GONE AND MY KIDS HAVE GRANDKIDS, THAT THAT PAINTING IS STILL GOING TO BE ON THE SKATE SHACK.
BUT MY QUESTION IS ALSO, DO WE KNOW THAT THAT SKATE SHACK IS STILL GOING TO BE THERE IF WE GET A NEW SKATE PARK? AND THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING, WHAT IS PERMANENCY? IS IT FIVE YEARS, AND THEN WE REVIEW IT? IS IT 10 YEARS AND WE SAY, IS THIS STILL APPROPRIATE? I FEEL LIKE IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT IS STEPPED.
>> TEMPORARY IS LESS THAN A YEAR.
>> MAYBE IT'S THE SEMANTICS OF AGAIN, WELL, YOU CAN HAVE PERMANENT TEETH THAT MAY NOT ALWAYS STAY IN YOUR FACE.
THAT I'M JUST SAYING THERE MAY BE A TIME LIMIT TO THAT.
I THINK WE'RE DEBATING SEMANTICS, AND I REALLY TO ME, THIS NEEDS MORE WORK.
I'M FULLY I WOULD EVEN I WOULD EVEN SORRY, I WOULD EVEN BACK UP MY NO VOTE TO SUPPORT THIS.
THIS ONE PROJECT WITH A COMPLETE MORATORIUM THAT UNTIL WE NAIL THIS DOWN WITH THE MULTIPLE STAKEHOLDERS, AND GET THIS RIGHT THAT WE DON'T APPROVE ANYMORE.
I WOULD BE WILLING TO CHANGE MY VOTE FOR THAT.
>> WELL, THAT'S WHAT IT WAS. THAT'S WHAT WE VOTED LAST TIME, AND THAT'S WHAT IT WAS SAID [OVERLAPPING].
>> IS IT WITHIN OUR ABILITY TO DEFINE PERMANENT? I MEAN, IF THAT'S THE STICKING POINT, I DON'T SEE WHY WE CAN'T SAY PERMANENT IS FIVE YEARS IN A REVIEW.
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>> SO OVERSET, BUT I THINK THERE'S TWO OPTIONS HERE.
WE COULD DO A MOTION TO MOVE FORWARD WITH WALLY'S ART OR NOT, WHATEVER.
AND THEN WE CAN ALSO DO A MOTION TO MOVE FORWARD WITH WORKSHOP DEEDS.
SO WE'RE GETTING THE BEST OF WORLD.
>> DO WE NEED TO DO THAT IN TWO MOTIONS OR CAN WE DO THAT IN ONE?
>> I WOULD MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE WALLY'S PROJECTS AS SUBMITTED.
>> SO WE WILL TRY TO GET THAT ON THE OCTOBER 1 CITY COMMISSION MEETING.
>> I NEED A SECOND. I'M SORRY.
>> UNTIL THE BOARD HAS HAS A WORKSHOP AND REVIEWS THE APPLICATION.
I THINK THE FUTURE APPLICATIONS.
>> NO, I SAY, BUT TO SAY THAT IF IN YOUR MOTION.
>> SO HOW ABOUT SO THIS FOR CLARIFICATION.
WE BY CONSENSUS, WE CAN MOVE FORWARD WITH A WORKSHOP. WE DON'T NEED TO VOTE ON THAT.
BUT WHAT I WOULD LIKE TONIGHT IS A MOTION AND A SECOND IN A VOTE TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THAT PIECE OF ARTWORK.
SO WHEN WE DO GO TO THE COMMISSION, THERE IS NO CONFUSION THAT PARKS AND RECREATION ADVISORY COMMITTEE SUPPORTS THIS.
>> I WILL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THIS PROJECT AS SUBMITTED TO MOVE FORWARD TO THE CITY COMMISSION.
>> I WILL RECUSE MYSELF FROM THIS VOTE.
>> I AGREE THAT WE MOVE FORWARD WITH.
I DO SIX. WE ALREADY HAVE EXIST IN THE BEST.
>> GO AHEAD. IT'S NOT ABOUT THIS.
>> IF YOU HOLD ON. A QUESTION.
>> OKAY. KATIE, IF YOU PLEASE CALL THE VOTE.
>> MEMBER. AGREE. CALL THE VOTE, PLEASE.
>> IS THERE CONSENSUS THAT YOU WANT KATIE AND I TO WORK ON SETTING UP AT LEAST ONE WORKSHOP TO REVIEW ALL OF THIS STUFF.
IN ADDITION TO THAT, I WILL REACH OUT TO MR. RESTIANO, AND MR. ABBOTT, AND ALSO KELLY WITH THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT JUST TO BRING IN THE WHOLE HISTORIC DISTRICT AREA AS WELL.
AND WE WILL SET UP THOSE DATES AND TIMES.
THEY DO NOT HAVE TO BE UP HERE.
OR WORKSHOPS CAN BE UPSTAIRS IN THE CONFERENCE ROOM.
>> IS THAT JUST FOR US OR IS IT A PUBLIC WORKS?
>> IT WILL BE POSTED AS A MEETING.
THE PUBLIC IS MORE THAN WELCOME TO ATTEND.
>> CAN WE BROADEN THEIR REACH OUTSIDE ON THE AGENDA ON THE CITY WEBSITE AND DO A FACEBOOK ANNOUNCEMENT OR SOMETHING?
>> THEY DO HAVE LISTED ON FACEBOOK.
>> COULD WE HAVE LIKE A BOARD MEMBER FROM HDC, NOT JUST KELLY, BUT SOMEBODY LIKE THAT WE HAVE A BOARD LIAISON THAT WE COULD WORK WITH.
>> I COULD REACH OUT OR HAVE KELLY REACH OUT TO ONE OF THOSE OR MR. SPINO POSSIBLY.
>> SOMETHING LIKE THAT, I THINK WOULD STILL NEED TO.
>> YES, WE CAN DO THAT. WE'LL LOOK AT THE CALENDAR.
WE WILL SET UP SOME TIMES JUST TO MAKE SURE EVERYONE'S AVAILABLE BEFORE WE MEET.
THAT WILL HAVE TO BE POSTED JUST LIKE ANY OTHER MEETING A WEEK IN ADVANCE.
>> POSSIBLE TO SET TWO AND THEN IF WE DON'T NEED AFTER, BUT I'D LIKE TO HAVE IT ON THE SCHEDULE SO THAT WE CAN WORK THROUGH THIS A LITTLE MORE EXPEDITIOUSLY THAN TO ORGANIZE AFTER, PLEASE?
>> WILL THE NEW ORDINANCE NOT HAVE ANY OF THE OLD STUFF ON THERE?
>> ONCE IT'S CODIFIED, ALL OF THAT STUFF WILL BE REMOVED.
>> PARK RECREATION HAS MADE A STEP TO CONTRIBUTE TO THE QUALITY OF LIFE OF OUR CITIZENS, BY HAVING ART, THE ECONOMIC SUCCESS OF ITS BUSINESSES AND ATTRACTION FOR VISITORS AND BENEFITS TO OUR TOURISM AND THE AESTHETIC ENHANCEMENT OF OUR COMMUNITY, BY VOTING YES TODAY.
>> ARE THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? IT SOUNDED MEMBER GOLDMAN POSSIBLY HAD A QUESTION ABOUT PUBLIC.
>> I HAVE A QUESTION. THERE'S SOME ART GOING IN ON SOUTH SIXTH STREET ON THE BACK SIDE OF THE ANTIQUE SHOP.
IF YOU DRIVE DOWN FROM ASH TO CENTER, YOU CAN'T MISS IT.
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YOU MIGHT WANT TO CALL IT PRIVATE.BUT HOW DID THAT GET APPROVED?
>> IT'S PRIVATE. THEY CAN DO WHATEVER THEY WANT.
>> IF IT'S PUBLIC PROPERTY, IT HAS TO GO THROUGH HDC.
>> THE PRIVATE PROPERTY GOES THROUGH HDC, IF THERE'S SOMETHING THAT CHANGES FROM THE STREET.
>> THAT MIGHT ACTUALLY BE [INAUDIBLE].
>> I'M NOT AWARE OF THIS PIECE OF ARTWORK.
I'M MORE THAN HAPPY TO DRIVE BY TONIGHT AS I GO HOME.
I DON'T KNOW IF THEY DID OR DID NOT DO THAT.
>> I THINK THAT IS PROBABLY SOME IMPORTANT TO UNDERSTAND WHAT THE HDC, WHAT PEOPLE HAVE TO APPLY FOR AND WHAT THEY DON'T.
>> YES. ON EIGHT FLAGS ANTIQUES.
THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT. DO YOU KNOW WHERE THE ANTIQUE TRUCK IS? BECAUSE I'M SURE THERE ARE SIGN RESTRICTIONS AND THINGS LIKE THAT THAT COULD BE CONSIDERED A SIGN I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE DEAL IS, BUT WE SHOULD PROBABLY AGAIN, IF WE HAVE SOMEBODY LIKE KELLY WHO'S ON HDC, THEY'LL KNOW AND THEY CAN ADVISE US.
THAT'S WHY I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO HAVE.
>> YES. THAT WOULD BE THE PLAN AS WE GO THROUGH THESE WORKSHOPS, NOT ONLY TO HAVE YOU, BUT TO HAVE FORMER ARTS AND CULTURE, NASSAU PEOPLE, KELLY WITH THE HDC, POSSIBLY MIKE SPINO WITH THAT GROUP AS WELL.
ALL OF THOSE QUESTIONS CAN BE ANSWERED. EVERYONE'S FINE WITH THAT?
>> SCOTT, I'VE ASKED RICHARD TO COME UP AND JUST GIVE A BRIEFING TO US ABOUT THE WAY THIS DOCUMENT BECAME.
WE CAN AT LEAST HAVE AN IDEA GOING INTO BEFORE HE DOES, AS THE SKATE SACK CITY OWNED.
>> THINGS THAT ARE OUTSIDE OF HDC WOULD GO THROUGH US.
HDC THOUGH HAS CERTAIN AREAS IN THE CITY DOWNTOWN AREA THAT I SAW THE MAP UP THERE SHE HAD.
NOW, AS FAR AS ANYWHERE ELSE, IT GOES THROUGH US BY MY UNDERSTANDING?
>> THAT IS MY UNDERSTANDING AS OF NOW.
>> ANYTHING THAT'S, LIKE THE THOSE THINGS THAT WERE WE WERE TALKING ABOUT THE OTHER DAY.
THE PUMP, THE WATER PUMP AT THE CENTRAL PARK.
THE LIFT STATION. LIFT STATION.
>> THOSE LIFT STATIONS HAVE PIPES AND STUFF THROUGHOUT ARE THOSE ALSO CITY PROPERTY? IS THAT SOMETHING THAT COULD BE PUT ON TOP OF?
I WOULD NOT LIKE I WOULDN'T FEEL COMFORTABLE SPEAKING WITHOUT I MEAN, WITHOUT ANDRE DES INVOLVED IN THAT CONVERSATION.
>> IS TELEPHONE POLES AND THOSE PART OF CITY OWNED?
>> CAN I MAKE A SUGGESTION THAT MAYBE WHAT WE EACH CAN BRING TO THE WORKSHOP IS IDENTIFY.
I WOULDN'T HAVE THOUGHT ABOUT TELEPHONE POLES.
>> MAYBE WE COME WITH IDEAS LIKE THAT TO SAY, HEY, HERE ARE THE PLACES BECAUSE I FEEL LIKE ONE OF THE THINGS WE REALLY NEED TO DO IS COME UP WITH A COMPREHENSIVE LIST OF VIABLE PLACES BECAUSE I KNOW WE'RE NOT GOING TO USE A TELEPHONE POLE, BUT WHAT IF WE SAID, "HEY, WE'VE GOT A TELEPHONE POLL THAT NEEDS TO BE PAINTED AND WE PUT THAT OUT TO THE COMMUNITY." THEN WE'VE GOT PEOPLE WHO SHOW UP AND SAY, I WILL PAINT THAT.
I THINK IT'S LIKE IDENTIFYING ALL THE PLACES.
THEN I'M SURE THAT WE'LL HAVE SOME PEOPLE WHO ARE ARTISTS WHO SAY, "HEY, I CAN MAKE THIS CULTURE, AND I WOULD IT WOULD BE GREAT AT THE PIRATE PLAYGROUND OR WHEREVER." THEN THEY COME TO US MAKING THE SUGGESTIONS TOO.
IT'S A TWO WAY STREET, BUT ALSO FOR US TO IDENTIFY.
YOU'VE JUST MENTIONED SOME PLACES I NEVER EVEN WOULD HAVE CONSIDERED, AND I THINK THAT'S WHAT WE NEED TO BUILD.
>> I'VE BEEN TO OTHER CITIES WHERE THEY'VE MADE THOSE PIPES LOOK LIKE SNAKES, GRAFTS, AND IT'S JUST ENHANCEMENT OF A LIFT STATION THAT YOU WOULDN'T HAVE ME ABOUT.
>> THAT LIFT STATION HAS GOT A LOT OF CONTROVERSY.
>> IT MAY NOT EVEN BE THAT BUILDING TO
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THE IDEA WHERE ART CAN BE PLACED OR PUT OR IN DC THEY USED THE WATER HYDRANTS.>> THOSE ARE SOME OF THE ITEMS THAT WE WILL DISCUSS IN THESE WORKSHOPS.
WHY DO WE WANT TO HAVE SPECIFIC TEMPORARY LOCATIONS? DO WE WANT TO DISCUSS SPECIFIC PERMANENT LOCATIONS AS WELL.
>> YOU GUYS ALREADY HAVE THEM? IF YOU GUYS ALREADY HAVE THEM, I THINK THAT WOULD BE GREAT. STARTING PLACE.
THEN WE CAN JUST START ADDING TO THAT.
I'M SURE AS TIME GOES ON THAT YES.
HI, RICHARD ESTIANO, ASSO COUNCIL OF ARTS AND CULTURE.
FORMALLY, ARTS AND CULTURE NASSAU.
THERE'S AN INTERESTING CONVERSATION.
OUR POSITION WAS WAY BACK A COUPLE OF MONTHS AGO WHEN I SPOKE TO THE CITY.
WE FELT LIKE YOU NEEDED ONE MORE PARTNER IN THIS CONVERSATION TO KIND OF SAVE YOU A LOT OF THE LEG WORK.
WHAT AN ARTS ORGANIZATION WOULD DO IS PRETTY DEEP IN THAT THE CITY WOULD COME BACK AND SAY, WE HAVE A CALL FOR ARTISTS, FOR INSTANCE, ON THE NEW MARINA.
THEY SHOW THREE SPOTS FOR PUBLIC ART.
THEN YOU HAVE A NUMBER OF QUESTIONS.
IS THAT A CALL FOR ARTIST? IS IT GOING TO BE ART THAT'S GOING TO BE PURCHASED, WHICH THEN BECOMES PERMANENT? IT CLEARS UP SOME OF THAT STUFF.
AND I THINK WHAT WE COULD PROVIDE, WHICH IS WHY I MADE THE ARGUMENT TO THE CITY, IS THAT YOU'VE GOT SOME PEOPLE THAT THEIR WHOLE FOCUS IS NOT ON THE POLITICAL SIDE.
IT'S NOT SOMETIMES IT'S NOT EVEN ON THE MONEY SIDE.
YOU JUST SAY HERE'S THE COOLEST THING WE'VE EVER SEEN, AND WE THINK THIS IS A WONDERFUL OPPORTUNITY.
WE'RE GOING TO BRING IN THREE ARTISTS TO SHOW YOU THREE OPTIONS THAT COULD GO INTO THAT PART.
AT EACH POINT, WE'VE SCREEN THE ART, WE'VE PRESENTED, WE'VE DONE THE LEG WORK, AND WE TURN IT OVER TO THE POWERS AT B, WHETHER IT BE OBVIOUSLY THIS ORGANIZATION, THE HISTORIC SITE, AND YOU HAVE TO EVEN KEEP ALISA AND MAIN STREET FERNANDINA BECAUSE SHE GOES DOWN CENTER AND UP.
WHEN WE HAD CONVERSATIONS ABOUT THE MURALS FROM THE TOURIST BOARD, ANOTHER PARTY IN THE GAME, THEY WANTED TO DO A WHOLE MURAL FESTIVAL IDEA, WHICH MAY STILL PERCOLATE LATER ON.
TO THAT POINT, IF YOU LOOK AT SCULPTURE, IF YOU LOOK AT FREESTANDING SCULPTURES, IF YOU LOOK AT MURALS, THOSE TWO THINGS BECOME MORE OF THE CALL TO ACTION.
I DON'T THINK IN THE ORDINANCE THAT WE HAVE THERE, IT LISTS MURALS, IT LISTS A WHOLE BUNCH OF THINGS.
BUT THE MOST OBVIOUS THINGS THAT PEOPLE DO ARE GOING TO BE MEMORIALIZED STATUES, COMMEMORATIVE PIECES LIKE THAT.
THERE'S GOING TO BE SOME SIGNAGE.
THEN THERE'S GOING TO BE MULES.
MURALS WILL BE ALWAYS AT THE TOP OF THE LIST.
I THINK THEY SHOULD BE HANDLED NOT IN THROWN IN THE BASKET WITH EVERYTHING ELSE.
THEY ACTUALLY SHOULD HAVE A LITTLE MORE OBSERVATION, CONCERN, AND CRITERIA THAT MAKES THEM MORE PALATABLE TO THE GENERAL PUBLIC, AS WELL AS HAVING A COMMUNITY BUY INTO IT.
WE THOUGHT THAT THAT'S THE JOB OF ARTS AND CULTURE TO DO THAT LEG WORK, PACKAGE IT ALL UP AND SAY, HERE YOU GO.
WE THINK THESE THREE ARTISTS ARE ON TRACK.
WE THINK THESE ARE THE PIECES THAT WOULD FIT THE OPPORTUNITY, AND THIS IS IN THE PRICE OR WHATEVER BUDGET THAT YOU CALL FOR.
TO THE EXTENT THAT WE DID THAT PART, THERE'S OBVIOUSLY NO CHARGE TO ANY OF THAT.
BUT TO TAKE IT EVEN FURTHER, WE WORK WITH A CONSULTANT OUT OF TALLAHASSEE THAT DOES PUBLIC ART AS A CONSULTANT.
SHOULD THIS HAVE TURNED INTO A MORE ELABORATE PART THAT WANTED FOUR OR FIVE THINGS, WE COULD THEN INTRODUCE A CONSULTANT THAT COMES IN, PUTS IT ALL TOGETHER, PRICES IT OUT, FINDS THE COST OBJECT, YOU GUYS FIND THE BUDGET.
I THINK THOSE ARE THE THINGS WE DO FOR YOU UNLESS YOU HAVE THE TIME TO DO ALL THAT STUFF.
THAT'S THE SERVICE WE WANT TO PROVIDE.
I WANTED TO GET IT WHEN I TALKED TO THE NEW ACTING CITY MANAGER AND CHARLIE GEORGE BEFORE THAT.
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TO GET BACK TO THE POINT WHERE WE HAD WE HAD IT FOR THE LAST 10 OR 15 YEARS, WHERE WE WERE THE GATEKEEPER FOR PUBLIC ART/ THE PIRATE GUY COMES TO ME AND SAYS, WE WANT TO CHANGE THE PIRATE THING DOWNTOWN.HERE'S THE APPLICATION. HE FILLS IT OUT, GIVES ME THE PHOTOGRAPHS.
THE BOARD LOOKS AT IT AND SAYS, THIS IS GOING TO REPLACE THIS.
WE DO THROUGH THE CRITERIA, WE TALK TO SAL LAST TIME ON THE PIRATE PROJECT.
WE SHOWED HIM THIS ANY PROBLEMS. YEP, THE BASE IS TOO SMALL. WE NEED SECURITY.
WE DON'T WANT THE KIDS STANDING ON IT.
HOW ARE YOU GOING TO DO ALL THIS? WE DID ALL THAT STUFF, PACKAGED THE WHOLE THING, AND THEN THE CITY MANAGER CHANGED.
THEN WE HAD A WHOLE ANOTHER PROBLEM WHERE THE PIRATE IS STILL NOT RESOLVED TO THIS DAY.
THAT'S A SERVICE WE OFFER WHETHER YOU FIND IT NECESSARY OR NOT, THAT'S UP FOR YOU TO DECIDE.
THE CITY SOUNDS LIKE BASED ON THE LETTER, I THINK I SHARED WITH A COUPLE OF YOU FROM TAMMY, SAID SELECTION YEAR, THINGS ARE GOING ON.
THERE'S A LOT TO DO. I'M JUST TRYING TO STAY IN TOUCH WITH THE POWERS THAT BE, BUT I WANT YOU TO UNDERSTAND THAT THE ART SIDE CAN BRING A LOT TO THE TABLE.
IT GETS YOU OFF THE POINT WHERE PEOPLE CAN COME UP AND SAY, WHAT THE HECK DO YOU KNOW ABOUT THE ART? YOU'VE MADE THESE DECISIONS.
YOU NOW HAVE SOME CRITERIA TO SAY, WELL, THE ART DEPARTMENT OR THE ART ORGANIZATION THAT THE CITY HAS RECOGNIZED HAS CAME UP WITH THESE FIVE OPTIONS.
THAT KIND OF THING. THAT'S REALLY ON MY ONLY POINT TO YOU.
WE HAVE THE PEOPLE, WE HAVE THE RESOURCES ON THE NEW BOARD.
THE TOURIST BOARD IS ON THAT BOARD.
SO NOW THEY HAVE A VESTED INTEREST IN MAKING SURE THE ART MAKES SENSE, AND WHAT THEY DO MAKES SENSE TO THE ART BOARD.
WE ALSO HAVE A LANDSCAPE ARCHITECT LICENSED IN FLORIDA.
WE HAVE SOMEBODY WHO'S HAD TO LAY IT OUT, UNDERSTANDS WHERE FITS IN, SCALE OF THINGS, COLOR, DESIGN.
BUT I ALSO ADD THAT I THINK WE NEED TO HAVE A LITTLE MORE WHEN YOU DO THE WORKSHOP, A LITTLE MORE SCRUTINY ON HOW MURALS GET MANAGED, BECAUSE I COULD SEE THAT GETTING TOTALLY OUT OF HAND.
BECAUSE TO YOUR POINT, IF IT BECOMES A PRIVATE PERSON'S PROPERTY PROJECT, THEN YOU RUN INTO A WHOLE BUNCH OF DIFFICULTY, WHICH I THINK YOU BROUGHT UP NOW, YOU REALLY NEED TO CLEAN THAT UP.
I USUALLY THE HOAS, I WOULD THINK WOULD BE TAKING SOME CONTROL OF THAT, BUT DOWNTOWN, I DON'T KNOW HOW THAT WORKS.
IS IT A SHARK OR SHRIMP IN THE YARD? YEAH. IT'S A NICE PIECE, BUT IT'S A PRIVATE PROPERTY.
>> ANYWAY, THAT'S ALL I WANTED TO MAKE SURE YOU UNDERSTOOD.
>> WHAT WAS THE REASONING THAT THE ARTS AND CULTURE WAS SUNSETED? DO YOU KNOW?
I WAS THE INSTRUMENTAL BIG MOUTH ABOUT THE WHOLE THING.
>> ABSOLUTELY. VERY SHORT, SO 15 YEARS, THEY HAD AN ARTS AND CULTURE NASSAU ORGANIZATION THAT WAS REALLY INSTITUTED BY THE COUNTY.
THE MISSION AT THAT POINT WAS ARTS FOR THE COUNTY.
WHEN I CAME ON THREE YEARS AGO AND I DEFAULTED INTO THE CHAIR BECAUSE I GUESS NOBODY ELSE WANTED IT.
I SAID, "WELL, THIS IS SUPPOSED TO BE A COUNTY COMMISSIONER." I WENT TO YULEE WHEN THEY WANTED TO MAKE A HISTORIC PARK, WHICH WE DID.
I MET WITH THE YULEE HISTORIC SOCIETY, AND WE GOT PROPERTY FROM YULEE ON CHESTER ROAD TO MOVE THEIR HISTORIC BUILDINGS AND BUILD A HISTORIC PARK IN YULEE.
THAT WAS STEP ONE. THE NEXT STEP WE DID WAS HILLIARD COMES BACK AND SAYS, "WE HAD THIS WHOLE WRECK BUILDING, AND WE TRYING TO FIND A MURAL ARTIST? WE DON'T KNOW HOW TO DO THAT." I COULD DO THAT FOR YOU.
SO I WENT THERE, GOT THE ARTIST, GAVE THEM THE DRAWINGS.
HILLIARD TOOK THE INTERVIEWS, DECIDED WHAT THEY WANTED.
I WANT TO MAKE SURE THERE'S MORE HISTORIC, AND IT WAS ARTISTIC.
THEY GOT IT ALL DONE. EVERYBODY LOVED IT.
TAKING THAT ON, I SAID, "OKAY, DOES EVERYBODY ELSE ON THIS BOARD GET WHAT WE SHOULD BE DOING?" THEY GO, "YEAH," BUT THE TROUBLE WITH THE BOARD WAS, IT WAS MADE UP OF MEMBERS OF THE ARTS ORGANIZATIONS ALL ON THE ISLAND.
NOW YOU GOT SEVEN OR EIGHT BOARD MEMBERS THAT HAVE THEIR OWN SKIN IN THE GAME.
ONE CAME TO THE THEATER, ONE CAME FROM THE CONCERT MUSIC, ONE CAME FROM THE ART, WHEREVER THEY CAME FROM.
THEY ALL HAD THEIR OWN ARTS ORGANIZATION.
WE CAN'T ASK THE WHOLE BOARD TO RECUSE ITSELF ON A VOTE.
SECOND THING WAS, YOU HAD THE [INAUDIBLE].
IF I SAID, COME WITH ME, I WANT TO TAKE YOU THREE LADIES, MEN, TO GO YULEE. I WANT TO SHOW YOU THE PARK.
YOU CAN'T DO THAT BECAUSE THAT'S
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A SEPARATE MEETING THAT YOU'RE DOING IT OUTSIDE THE GUIDELINES.WE HAD TO GET INTO THE PARKS DEPARTMENT, GOT SOMEBODY CAN GO WITH THIS.
THE THIRD WAS THE ONLY FUNDING WE GOT BECAUSE WE WERE ACCOUNTING COMMISSION WAS, YOU COULDN'T TAKE DONATIONS, YOU COULDN'T APPLY FOR GRANTS.
YOU GOT THE LICENSE PLATE MONEY BEING DESIGNATED AS THE COUNTY'S LOCAL ART AGENCY.
YOU SELL 8, 10 LICENSE PLATES A MONTH, YOU GET $20.
YOU GOT A WHOPPING THREE GRAND, THAT BARELY PAYS FOR THE PRINTING THAT WE WANTED TO DO WITH THE ADVERTISING WE DID.
THE WHOLE PLAN HAD A GREAT THOUGHT PROCESS, BUT IT DIDN'T HAVE ANY TEETH.
IN DECEMBER, WE GOT TO THE BOARD.
I PUT UP THE MOTION, GOT A SECOND, ALL 11 VOTED. WE'RE OUT.
I THEN TOOK THE INITIATIVE TO CREATE THE NONPROFIT AND GOT A NEW BOARD.
WE ARE NOW WORKING TO GET THE LA DESIGNATION FROM THE COUNTY BACK SO WE GET THE LICENSE PLATE MONEY, BUT NOW WE'RE IN THE PROCESS OF ALREADY COLLECTING DONATIONS MORE THAN WE EVER MADE IN A WHOLE YEAR ON THE OTHER BOARD.
NOW CLEARLY, THE MISSION IS COUNTY WIDE.
I WAS JUST IN CALLAHAN TODAY LOOKING AT SOME PROJECTS THEY'RE DOING AT THE FAIR AND HOW ARTS CAN BE A PART OF THAT.
THE LAST PIECES, YOU PUT 30,000 NEW RESIDENTS MID COUNTY, NO THEATERS, NO GALLERIES, NO PERFORMANCE VENUES.
THERE'S NOTHING IN THERE AND THERE'S NO PLAN ON THE WILDLIFE SIDE YET.
I MEAN, THAT'S THE BOTTOM OF THE LIST.
WHAT ARE WE GOING TO DO TO BRING THE ARTS OFF ISLAND, NOT TO DO ANYTHING TO DISPARATE OR DAMAGE ANYTHING THAT'S HAPPENING, BUT TO GET GET IT TO BE AS CREATIVE MID COUNTY AS IT IS HERE ON THE ISLAND.
>> AS I DON'T MEAN IN NASSAU COUNTY DOESN'T HAVE PUBLIC ART EITHER.
IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, BASICALLY?
>> NO, THEY I JUST CAME FROM THE CULTURAL CORRIDOR THAT THEY MEETING THEY JUST HAD THAT PUTS PUBLIC PARKS THROUGH BURGESS, WHERE THEY OWN ALL THAT LAND.
IN THERE IS JUST LIKE YOUR PLAN FOR THE WATERFRONT, THERE'S SIX OR SEVEN PUBLIC ART INSTALLATIONS, WHICH THEY HAVEN'T FIGURED OUT YET.
>> BUT THAT'S HOW CITIES AND COUNTIES WORK.
THEY DESIGN IT, THE ARCHITECTS BUILD IT OUT.
THEN SOMEBODY HAS TO COME UP AND SAY, IF YOU'RE GOING TO PUT PUBLIC AND THEY'RE GOING TO WALK AROUND, PUBLIC ART IS LIKE IT'S COMMEMORATIVE, YULEE COULD STAY THERE FOR A LONG TIME BECAUSE IT COMMEMORATES SOMETHING AND IT'S A MEMORIALIZED THING.
YOU GOT CRITERIA THAT KEEPS SOMETHING IN PLACE FOR A LONG PERIOD OF TIME, BUT IT ALSO IS GREAT FOR THE RESIDENTS.
IT GIVES THEM A PLACE TO UNSTRESS THEMSELVES, WALK AROUND, LOOK AT SOMETHING THAT'S CREATIVE.
I JUST CAME BACK FROM A TRIP TO NEW YORK TO SEE MY GRANDKIDS AND ACROSS THE HUDSON AND STORM KING, THEY'VE GOT ABOUT I DON'T KNOW 50 ACRES OF ART IN THE MIDDLE OF THE LANDSCAPE.
YOU GOT THIS WONDERFUL JUXTAPOSITION OF GRASS AND GREEN AND TREES AND RED METAL AND SILVER METAL AND DIFFERENT KINDS OF THINGS.
WE WANT TO SAY, IF YOU NEED SOME HELP, WE WANT TO HELP YOU GET THERE.
>> WAS THE AESTHETIC ENHANCEMENT OF OUR COMMUNITY THAT WE ARE HERE FOR? I SPOKE WITH YOU A WHILE BACK ABOUT THAT PROJECT.
>> I TOLD YOU I WORKED THREE DESIGNS ON THREE DIFFERENT SITES AND THANK YOU. YOU DID IT. YES.
>> YES. IT WAS WAY BEFORE THAT APPLICATION WAS PUT IN.
THE PROCESS OF THAT PARTICULAR MURAL DESIGN WAS PUT IN WAY BEFORE THE ACTUAL APPLICATION WAS PUT IN.
WE SOUGHT OUT AND SPOKE TO YOU ABOUT THAT.
WE DO APPRECIATE THE ADVICE THAT YOU HAD GIVEN.
WE DID PUT IT ON FACEBOOK, AND WE DID GET A LOT OF COMMUNITY INVOLVED THROUGH THAT WAY.
NO THROUGH A HOMETOWN, BUT THROUGH THAT TYPE OF ACTION, WHICH DID WORK OUT BUT I THINK WHAT YOU'RE BRINGING TO THE TABLE IS EXACTLY WHAT WE ARE LOOKING FOR.
I JUST DON'T KNOW HOW IF WE ARE MAKING DECISIONS ON OTHER THINGS, IS THERE A NONPROFIT LIKE WHAT HE'S OFFERING FOR EVERY SINGLE DECISION THAT WE MAKE.
ARE WE SEEKING NONPROFIT ORGANIZATIONS FOR WHATEVER WE DO.
>> BUT I JUST WANT TO BRING THIS UP.
WHILE I DON'T THINK AND I'M TALKING FOR MYSELF RIGHT NOW.
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I DON'T KNOW IF THIS IS A GOOD PLACE OR A BAD PLACE FOR A PIECE OF ART.I NEED A PROFESSIONAL WHO KNOWS THE STUFF, WHO KNOWS WHAT HAS TO BE DONE ON A PARTICULAR.
MURAL, WHAT THE PAINTS ARE? HOW LONG CAN THIS LAST WITH THIS PARTICULAR TYPE OF PAINT?
>> BUT IT'S LIKE ANYTHING ELSE.
WE ALL GOING TO LOOK AT THAT AND DECIDE, LOOKS LIKE A KID DREW THAT.T HERE IS A PICASO DRAWING IT.
[INAUDIBLE] HE WAS SELF TAUGHT.
FRIDACOLE, ANOTHER ONE, SELF TAUGHT ARTIST.
I JUST THINK THEN YOU COULD STILL BECOME AN ARTIST.
>> YEAH, THANK YOU, BUT NO, THANK YOU, BUT THE BOTTOM LINE IS, WALLY, I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WHEN WE DO SOMETHING THAT WE HAVE GIVEN THE PUBLIC THE OPPORTUNITY TO REVIEW IT AND PUT THEIR COMMENTS IN IT BEFORE WE VOTE ON IT.
I THINK IT'S ONLY FAIR THAT IF THIS IS GOING TO BE PERMANENT AT ALL, THEY SHOULD KNOW.
JUST LIKE THEY HAVE INPUT, THEY SHOULD HAVE HAD INPUT ON THE STATE PARK. I BELIEVE THAT.
LIKE I SAID TO YOU BEFORE, I DO NOT WANT ANOTHER JOE VARI, WHERE WE'RE NOT SURE WHAT, THE HISTORY OR WHAT CAN BE DONE OR THIS SHOULD BE DONE BECAUSE I THINK THE PUBLIC WE NEED TO HAVE TRANSPARENCY WITH STUFF LIKE THIS.
>> IN THE JOE VALARTI SITUATION, THERE WERE TWO NON VOTES ON THAT, SO WE DID GO THROUGH THAT.
>> YEAH. IT'S NOT THAT WE DIDN'T GET THROUGH IT.
WHAT I'M SAYING TO YOU IS, I THINK YOU GET A LOT MORE ACCOMPLISHED, LETTING THE CITY KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON.
>> THAT'S THE TRANSPARENCY I WANT TO HAVE WITH THIS PARTICULAR DEPARTMENT. TOM, JUST ONE LAST THING.
>> THE PROCESS THAT I WORKED ON WITH SCOTT WAS, IF SOMEBODY, THE PIRATES, WANTED TO PUT CHANGE THE SCULPTURE, IF THEY WENT TO CITY HALL, THE CLERK OR SCOTT WOULD SAY THE ARTS AND CULTURE HAS THE APPLICATION.
THE BOARD WILL SAY, THEY'LL DO THEIR OWN LITTLE MEETING ABOUT IT, WE'LL WALK THROUGH IT. WE'LL TALK ABOUT IT.
WE'LL HAVE THE ARTISTS COME IN, LIKE WE DID WITH THE OTHER GUY, THAT METAL GUY.
YES. JARED. THEN TIL THE BOARD MET THE ARTIST, WE DID ALL THE CONVERSATION.
THEN WE SAID, I THINK WE'RE GOOD WITH THIS. IT'S A VOTE.
WE TOOK THE VOTE, SIGNED OFF ON IT, GAVE IT TO SCOTT.
HE TOOK IT TO THE CITY AND AND YOU GUYS RAN WITH IT.
WE DIDN'T GET IN YOUR BUSINESS ANY OTHER WAY OTHER THAN DO THE SCREENING PROCESS, GIVE YOU THE OPTIONS, GIVE YOU THE RECOMMENDATIONS.
YOU COULD COME BACK AND SAY, RESTIANO, THIS THING TOTALLY DOESN'T MAKE ANY SENSE.
I WANT TO SEE TWO MORE ARTISTS.
FINE, I GO GET THEM FOR YOU, AND I'LL BRING IT BACK TO YOU.
UNLESS YOU HAVE THE TIME TO DO THAT STUFF, THAT'S WHAT WE DID.
>> THANK YOU. I REALLY APPRECIATE THAT.
>> THANK YOU FOR DESCRIBING THAT.
THAT SOUNDS LIKE A REALLY GREAT PROCESS, AND I LIKE THE FACT THAT YOU CAN TAKE YOUR BOARD OUT AND HAVE THIS DISCUSSION.
>> WHEN YOU LIKE TO ROLL OUT..
>> YOU CAN BRING THAT BACK TO US, AND I REALLY APPRECIATE THAT.
>> I THINK TO MEMBER BARRERAS POINT IS WE CAN WORK OUT THOSE DETAILS IN OUR WORKSHOPS ABOUT HOW INVOLVED THAT PARKS AND RECREATION ADVISORY COMMITTEE WANTS THEIR ASSISTANCE.
>> I SEE IT LIKE A PARTNERSHIP JUST LIKE WITH THE SKATE PARK.
LIKE WE WOULDN'T ASK BABE RUTH TO HELP DESIGN THE SKATE PARK.
WE WOULD COME TO THE PEOPLE WHO KNOW THAT.
YOU NOT, ALL AREN'T MAKING THOSE DECISIONS NECESSARILY, BUT YOU'RE COMING TO US WITH WHAT YOU NEED AND WHAT YOU WANT AND WHAT'S TRYING TO BE PRESENTED.
THEN WE ARE TRYING TO MAKE THE DECISION OF HOW TO APPLY, HOW IT GETS EXECUTED. THAT'S ALL.
THEN I THINK WE DO THAT WITH A LOT OF ORGANIZATIONS ALREADY IN THE VARIOUS GROUPS, WHETHER IT'S ACROSSE OR BASEBALL OR WHATEVER IT IS.
IT'S JUST MORE OF THAT, BUT WITH ART.
IS THERE ANY MORE DISCUSSION? OKAY. LET'S MOVE ON.
NUMBER SEVEN STAFF REPORT DEPARTMENT.
[7.1 Department Updates]
JUST A QUICK FOLLOW UP, I DO BELIEVE THAT SOME OF YOU HAVE RECEIVED REAPPOINTMENT E MAILS FROM THE CITY CLERK'S OFFICE.
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IF YOU WERE EXPECTING ONE AND DID NOT RECEIVE ONE, PLEASE LET ME KNOW, BUT I BELIEVE, CAROLINE, IF YOU ARE COMING UP FOR REAPPOINTMENT, YOU SHOULD HAVE RECEIVED AN E MAIL.IF YOU NEED ANY ASSISTANCE WITH THAT, PLEASE REACH OUT TO ME.
I'LL BE MORE THAN HAPPY TO HELP YOU.
EGAN CREEK FITNESS EQUIPMENT HAS BEEN SHIPPED AND WE WILL BE RECEIVING THAT EQUIPMENT THIS FRIDAY.
AS THE GRASS SLOWS DOWN MOWING, OBVIOUSLY WE HAVE RECEIVED A TON OF RAIN.
>> CAN PUT A LIFEGUARD OVER THERE?
ONCE THAT STOPS SLOWING DOWN, WE'RE ACTUALLY GOING TO REINSTALL THAT.
I WANTED TO THANK THE CITY COMMISSION FOR APPROVING THAT PURCHASE.
THAT FITNESS EQUIPMENT WAS COMPLETELY RUSTED OUT.
THE FITNESS EQUIPMENT THAT WE DID PURCHASE NOW IS ACTUALLY GALVANIZED.
THE LONGEVITY OF THAT WILL BE MUCH BETTER.
WE ACTUALLY RECEIVED A 50% DISCOUNT BECAUSE OF SOME WARRANTY.
THERE IS ANOTHER SKATE COMPETITION NOVEMBER.
>> NOVEMBER 2ND, ALONG WITH THE [INAUDIBLE] FESTIVAL.
I WAS NOT CONFIDENT THAT WE COULD GET THE NEXT RAMPS TAKEN AWAY, REFABRICATED, OR FABRICATED AND REINSTALLED.
IMMEDIATELY AFTER THAT COMPETITION, WE'RE GOING TO TAKE TWO MORE ADDITIONAL RAMPS.
THIS MONEY ACTUALLY WAS ROLLED OVER INTO OUR NEXT FISCAL YEAR, SO WE HAVE THAT REMAINING MONEY TO FINISH THE PROJECT.
>> YES, IT'S IT WAS ROLLED OVER FROM THIS EXISTING FISCAL YEAR TO NEXT FISCAL YEAR, THAT IS CORRECT? WE'RE USING THAT MONEY THAT WAS ALREADY ALLOCATED TO DO THOSE REPAIRS.
THEN I ALSO PUT ON HERE FOLLOWING AFTER OUR FISCAL NEW YEAR, OCTOBER 1, THE RECREATION STAFF WILL START THE PROCESS OF NOT ALLOCATING THE MONEY, BUT PUTTING IT THROUGH OUR PURCHASING POLICY FOR THE EXPANSION, THE DESIGN OF THAT.
AS WE GO THROUGH THAT, I WILL BE WORKING CLOSELY WITH THE PARKS AND RECREATION ADVISORY BOARD, THE FERNANDINA SKATE PARK, FRIENDS OF FERNANDINA SKATE PARK, AND THEN THE PUBLIC AS WELL TO DO THAT.
WE DO HAVE $90,000 IN THIS NEXT YEAR'S BUDGET FOR JUST THE DESIGN PHASE.
HOPEFULLY, SOME OF YOU HAVE BEEN ABLE TO GO OVER BY PECK FIELD.
THAT WALKING TRAIL IS STARTED.
THANK YOU TO THE STREETS DEPARTMENT.
THEY HAVE REMOVED THE DIRT AND PUT LIME ROCK DOWN FOR THE TRACK.
I JUST GOT WORDED THAT THAT ASPHALT WILL BE BEING PUT IN THE WEEK OF SEPTEMBER 23.
THAT WILL BE COMPLETED THAT WEEK.
WE WILL HAVE A NICE WALKING TRAIL THERE AS WELL.
CENTRAL PARK GAZEBO, OBVIOUSLY, IT'S RAINING.
WE DID DO A LOT OF WOOD REPAIR, I BELIEVE, WE FINISHED THE WOOD REPAIR TODAY.
>> WE WERE TRYING TO. IT GOT RAINING.
>> ONCE THAT'S DONE, WE'RE ACTUALLY GOING TO GET THE GAZEBO REPAINTED.
THE CITY COMMISSION ALSO APPROVED THE RESURFACING OF THE MLK POOL.
THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE IS REVIEWING THE CONTRACT.
ONCE THAT CONTRACT IS REVIEWED BY THE ATTORNEY'S OFFICE, THAT WILL BE SENT OUT, SO WE WILL BE ABLE TO REMARK SITE OR RESURFACE THE MLK POOL, WHICH IS MUCH NEEDED.
THE ATLANTIC RECREATION CENTER, THE WOMEN'S LOCKER ROOM RENOVATION IS LOOKING REALLY GOOD.
WE SHOULD BE COMPLETE THAT BEFORE SEPTEMBER 30.
THEY JUST MAINLY HAVE TO DO SOME MINOR PLUMBING YET AND PAINTING, AND THAT WILL BE A FIXED UP.
IF YOU WANT TO STOP BY, WE WOULD LOVE TO SHOW YOU.
THEN, IN ADDITION, FOLLOWING THAT, WE WILL BE DOING THE MEN'S SIDE.
>> ARE YOU GOING TO DO A VIDEO OF THAT?
>> ALSO, PARKS AND RECREATION STAFF, WE'RE ACTUALLY MEETING WITH MR. ABBOTT WITH BETANC TOMORROW AT 1:00 REGARDING THE REFURBISHMENT OF THE EXISTING COURTS AT CENTRAL PARK.
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I WANTED TO THANK EACH AND EVERY ONE OF YOU THAT HAD SHOWED UP FOR THE TOWN HALL MEETING.I DO APPRECIATE YOU GUYS COMING.
THANK YOU FOR THAT. WE ALREADY KIND OF KNOW WHAT THEY WANT, BUT WE JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE WE'RE GETTING THE RIGHT MATERIAL AND STUFF LIKE THAT FOR THOSE EXISTING PATON COURTS.
>> THEN UPCOMING ITEM CITY COMMISSION APPROVAL OF BEACH WALKOVER.
WE DO HAVE SOME ITEMS THAT ARE GOING TO BE GOING TO THE CITY COMMISSION HERE SHORTLY IS THE BEACH WALKOVER CARPENTRY CONTRACT.
WE HAVE A LOT OF BOARDWALKS THAT ARE NOT DOING SO WELL.
I'M LOOKING TO GO UNDER CONTRACT TO GET SOMEBODY THAT CAN REDECK, RE-HAND RAIL, FIX THE JOIST.
A LOT OF THESE BEACH WALKOVERS, THE POLES ARE OKAY THAT ARE IN THE DIRT.
IT'S THE WALKOVER PART, THE HANDRAILS.
HOPEFULLY WE CAN START GETTING THOSE CLEANED UP AND FIXED.
>> SCOTT, SORRY TO INTERRUPT YOU.
A NEW MEMBER MOUNT JOY HAD TALKED ABOUT LOOKING AT ALTERNATE PRODUCTS TO USE.
>> WE DID, AND I ACTUALLY MET WITH SOME OF THE PEOPLE THAT WORK WITH HER.
BUT WHEN WE DO THIS, WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO IS WE'RE GOING TO BE ABLE TO HAVE, ONCE WE GET UNDER CONTRACT, WE COULD HAVE A CONTRACTED PRICE FOR LUMBER, AND WE CAN HAVE A CONTRACTED PRICE FOR, I THINK IT'S CALLED THE TREX WOOD.
WE WOULD HAVE TO PAY THE DIFFERENCE OF OF THAT COST.
>> I WOULD THINK AND MAYBE IT'S SOMETHING WE CAN TALK ABOUT AS WE'RE LOOKING INTO NEXT YEAR.
BUT LOOKING AT WHERE REPAIRS NEED TO BE MADE, REPLACING THOSE WITH REGULAR BOARD, BUT WHEN ONE HAS TO BE REBUILT TRANSITIONING TO THOSE THINGS BECAUSE IT'LL HURT AT THE BEGINNING, BUT IT'S A LOT LESS MAINTENANCE FOR YOU GUYS, AND WE'RE ONLY GOING TO GET MORE BUSY.
THEY'RE ONLY GOING TO GET WORN OUT FASTER, I THINK.
OF COURSE, I'M SURE WEATHER IMPACTS THAT A LOT.
>> I BELIEVE WHEN WE DID ACCESS 40 WAS THE LAST ONE THAT WE DID.
I DON'T KNOW THE EXACT NUMBERS OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD, BUT THERE WAS A DEAD TO THE BID PROCESS WHERE THERE WAS A PRICE, I BELIEVE THAT WAS ASKED FOR, IF YOU WANT TO, WHAT IS THE WOOD PRICE COMPARED TO THAT PRICE?
>> WELL, AND I THINK IF FOR LONG-TERM LOOKING AT THINGS LIKE THAT, OBVIOUSLY, THAT'S SOMETHING FOR THE COMMISSION TO LOOK AT.
BUT THERE'S MONEY OUT THERE FROM TDC, OTHER PLACES, LIKE, ARE WE GETTING ALL OF THE MONEY THAT WE CAN FOR THOSE THINGS? I WOULD IMAGINE BEACH AND I KNOW COMMISSIONER ROSS IS SHAKING HIS HEAD.
BUT I'M JUST SAYING, AS WE'RE LOOKING LONGER TERM, AGAIN, I KEEP HAMMERING AND I KEEP SAYING AND EVERYBODY'S STARTED HEARING IT, BUT WHAT ARE WE DOING FOR LONG-TERM PLANNING OF HOW TO SOLVE SOME OF THESE PROBLEMS? THANK YOU.
>> WE DO ALSO HAVE SOME COSPONSORED SPECIAL EVENTS THAT WE ON A YEARLY BASIS, GO TO THE COMMISSION.
I BELIEVE THERE'S FIVE THAT THE SPECIAL EVENTS, CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG.
FIVE, THAT THE SPECIAL EVENTS COMMITTEE FOR THE CITY HAS DECIDED TO SPONSOR THEM, AND THEN FOUR FROM THE MAIN STREET COMMITTEE, THOSE FOUR EVENTS.
I DON'T KNOW THE NINE EVENTS, BUT THIS HAPPENS EVERY YEAR.
I DON'T WANT TO PUT YOU ON THE SPOT.
DO YOU KNOW THE NINE OFF THE TOP?
THE CITY EVENTS ARE SHRIMP DROP, HOMETOWN FIREWORKS FOR THE 4TH OF JULY.
>> THE FISHING RODEO AND THE [INAUDIBLE] TREE LIGHTING.
>> SOUNDS ON CENTER. THAT'S MORE THAN FIVE.
[LAUGHTER] MAYBE THE CAR SHOW IS MAIN STREET, AND THEN MAIN STREET DOES THE FOUR, WHICH IS THE [OVERLAPPING] NASHON FASHION.
>> I APOLOGIZE. [LAUGHTER] I SHOULDN'T PUT HER ON THE SPOT LIKE THAT.
BUT THERE'S NINE TOTAL EVENTS THAT GO BEFORE THE COMMISSION THAT BASICALLY IS ASKING FOR THE CITY'S CO-SPONSORSHIP APPROVAL.
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>> IS THERE ANY APPLICATION TO PUT IN TO BE PART OF THAT TO BE CONSIDERED AS A SPECIAL EVENT THAT THE CITY WOULD CO-SPONSOR?
>> I DON'T THINK THERE IS AN APPLICATION PROCESS RIGHT NOW.
I'M NOT SAYING THAT WE SHOULDN'T HAVE THAT, BUT THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE COULD POSSIBLY INCORPORATE.
>> IS THE JACKSONVILLE, THEY SPONSOR THE HISPANIC HERITAGE FESTIVAL DOWN THERE.
ST. AUGUSTINE DOES THE SAME ORLANDO. TAMPA.
>> I'LL MENTION THAT TO KRISTIN TOMORROW.
WE ALSO HAVE THE PARKS COMFORT STATION CLEANING.
NOW, THESE ARE JUST ITEMS THAT ARE GOING TO BE GOING BEFORE THE COMMISSION IN SOMEWHAT THE NEAR FUTURE.
WHEN I KNOW THE EXACT DATE OF THAT, I WILL MAKE SURE THAT I LET YOU KNOW [OVERLAPPING] SOME OF THEM ARE ON 917, ALTHOUGH SOME OF THESE DID GET PUSHED TO OCTOBER 1ST AS WELL.
I JUST WANTED TO LET YOU KNOW.
THEN ALSO FOR ABOUT A YEAR, A YEAR-AND-A-HALF, WE WERE UNABLE.
WE DID NOT HAVE A STAFF MEMBER TO DO CHEMICAL APPLICATIONS TO OUR SPORTS FIELDS.
IF YOU DON'T DO THAT, IT DOESN'T WORK.
THEY DETERIORATE, AND BEFORE YOU KNOW IT, IT'S JUST GRASS AND WEEDS.
I AM TAKING BEFORE THE COMMISSION WITH THE EXISTING COMPANY THAT WE USED THIS FISCAL YEAR TO CONTINUE THAT CONTRACT MOVING FORWARD.
OUR SPORTS FIELDS HAVE GOTTEN A LOT BETTER.
WHEN I TALK ABOUT OUR SPORTS FIELDS, I'M TALKING ABOUT HICKORY STREET PARK, THE BASEBALL FIELDS AT MOK SOFTBALL FIELDS AT MOK, THE BASEBALL FIELDS AT CENTRAL PARK, THE FOOTBALL FIELD AT CENTRAL PARK, JOVAL AARTI FIELD.
>> ARE YOU SAYING THAT HASN'T BEEN BEING DONE?
>> WELL, IT HADN'T BEEN BEING DONE, BUT FOR THE LAST ABOUT NINE MONTHS NOW, WE RESTARTED THAT.
BUT GOING FORWARD INTO NEXT FISCAL YEAR, I'M TAKING THAT CONTRACT BACK TO THE COMMISSION.
BUT THERE WAS A PERIOD OF TIME WHERE SOME OF OUR FIELDS WERE NOT GETTING TREATED, THAT IS CORRECT.
THE SPECIAL EVENT GUIDELINES WILL ALSO BE GOING BACK TO THE CITY COMMISSION IN THE NEAR FUTURE.
AND THEN WE ALSO HAVE NONPROFIT ORGANIZATIONS THAT RENT OR LEASE AT THE PEC CENTER, AND WE HANDLE THOSE, AND THOSE WILL BE GOING BACK TO THE COMMISSION AS WELL.
I BELIEVE THEY SIGNED FIVE YEAR LEASES.
WE HAVE THREE ORGANIZATIONS THAT WILL BE GOING TO THE COMMISSION FOR RE APPROVAL.
>> ON THE SPECIAL EVENTS GUIDELINES, WAS THAT SOMETHING THAT WE WERE GOING TO THE PARADES AND STUFF.
>> YES. FIRST, IT'S WITH LEGAL RIGHT NOW, AND THEN IT'LL COME TO YOU GUYS, AND THEN IT'LL GO TO COMMISSION.
HE'S TALKING, LIKE FUTURE. SORRY GUYS.
>> GOOD. IS THAT SOMETHING WE COULD MAKE AS AN ITEM IN OUR WORKSHOP THAT WE HAVE COMING UP, WOULD THAT BE HELPFUL, OR YOU [OVERLAPPING] WORKSHOP.
>> BUT YES, THAT'S A GOOD IDEA.
WE COULD ACTUALLY TAKE THAT TO A WORKSHOP BEFORE IT EVEN GETS PRESENTED TO HERE.
I WOULD LIKE ANYTHING THAT WE CAN DO, WORK BEFOREHAND BEFORE WE GET HERE BECAUSE I FEEL WHEN SOMETHING GETS TO US, LIKE PEOPLE HAVE BEEN THROUGH THE PROCESS, THEY'RE WAITING, AND WE SHOULD TRY TO MOVE AS EXPEDIENTLY AS WE CAN.
>> JUST TO PIGGY BACK OFF THE SPECIAL EVENTS.
I DID FIND THE NINE[LAUGHTER].
>> THE FIVE FROM THE CITY ARE SOUNDS ON CENTER.
NASA SPORTS ASSOCIATION FISHING RODEO, PATAMA ISLAND OPEN, HOMETOWN 4TH OF JULY AND THE SHRIMP DROP.
THEN THE FERNANDINA BEACH MAIN STREET IS DICKENS ON CENTER, ISLAND HOP, EIGHT FLEX, CAR SHOW, AND BLACK FRIDAY PAJAMA PARTY.
THEN I BELIEVE THE SHRIMP FESTIVAL HAS THEIR OWN WAIVER COMES THROUGH THE QUESTION.
>> STAFFING. THERE ARE A COUPLE OF POSITIONS, AND THESE WERE ACTUALLY ON OUR LAST MEETING BUT [OVERLAPPING].
>> I'M HAPPY, EXCITED TO KNOW THAT THOSE POSITIONS HAVE BEEN FILLED TODAY.
>> WELL, YES THERE IS [OVERLAPPING].
>> THERE'S AS STAFF AT THE POOL AND IN OUR PROGRAM, BUT THOSE ARE PART TECH THIS FULL-TIME.
>> YES. WE ARE 100% STAFF MINUS A FEW SEASONAL AND TEMPORARY STAFF,
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SO THAT WAS ONE OF OUR GOALS IS TO REALLY MAINTAIN THAT.>> A LOT DIFFERENT FROM A YEAR AGO.
>> WE WILL WORK HARD TO CONTINUE TO DO THAT.
UPCOMING SPECIAL EVENTS, THE ENDLESS SUMMER WATERMELON RIDE ON SEPTEMBER 15TH, MICAH'S PLACE, A BEACH WALK, SEPTEMBER 21ST, EMILIA AI TAVERN, OCTOBER 1ST, SEPTEMBER 21ST, GLOW FESTIVAL AT CENTRAL PARK, SEPTEMBER 28TH, SOUNDS ON CENTER OCTOBER 4TH, AND ISLAND HOP OCTOBER 5TH AT CENTRAL PARK.
OUR NEXT PRAC MEETING WILL BE OCTOBER 8TH, AND I BELIEVE THAT IS ALL I HAVE FOR YOU TONIGHT, KATIE.
THIS ISN'T A SPECIAL EVENT, BUT I THINK IT'S AN IMPORTANT EVENT.
PARKS AND RECREATION AND THE COUNCIL ON AGING WE'RE SUPPORTING THEM TO PROVIDE THIS TALENT SHOW.
THEY'RE DOING A PHENOMENAL JOB PREPARING FOR IT, SO I JUST WANTED TO PUT DOWN YOUR RADAR IF YOU'RE FREE TO GO.
I'LL BE FUN. SOME STAFF MIGHT BE PARTICIPATING FROM PARKS AND RECREATION.
>> WE ALSO ARE WORKING WITH COUNCIL ON AGING ALONG WITH OUR PING PONG GROUP THAT PLAY THERE AND THEY'RE DOING PING PONG PARKINSON'S, WHICH IS A REALLY A GOOD GROUP.
DON HUGHES IS PRETTY WELL KNOWN IN THIS COMMUNITY WORKS WITH THAT, TOO.
THAT'S ANOTHER THING WE'RE DOING WITH THE COUNCIL ON AGING.
ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS FOR ME AT THIS TIME?
>> YOU GUYS ARE DOING A GREAT JOB.
THANK YOU FOR BRINGING US UP TO SPEED ON ALL THAT YOU ARE DOING.
I THINK THAT MAKES A DIFFERENCE WHEN YOU CAN LIST ALL THE UPCOMING THINGS THAT YOU'VE GOT, THE PROJECT UPDATES.
I THINK THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WHEN I FIRST WAS UP HERE DIDN'T HAVE.
I DO APPRECIATE YOUR STAFF AND WORKING HARD ON WHAT THEY'RE DOING.
>> THANK YOU, SCOTT. BOARD MEMBER COMMENTS.
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>> THANKS FOR ALL THE HARD WORK YOU GUYS ARE DOING.
I AM HOSTING A CANDIDATE FORUM AT ATLANTIC REC CENTER.
WE'LL BE USING ONE OF OUR PARKS AND REC FACILITIES TOMORROW NIGHT AT 6 O'CLOCK FROM 6-8.
WE'D LOVE TO HAVE EVERYBODY OUT IF YOU'RE ABLE TO COME AND MEET ALL THE CANDIDATES AND SEE YOUR FRIENDS AND NEIGHBORS.
>> AT THE REC CENTER, LANA CRAIG CENTER.
>> I'D LIKE TO SAY THIS TOWN LOVES A PARADE.
[LAUGHTER] WHOEVER DID PUT THIS TOGETHER.
>> GOOD JOB. [LAUGHTER] IN SHORT TIME.
>> IT'S THE SHAMELESS PLUGS FOR WALLY.
>> I'D LIKE TO THANK YOU FOR THANKING OUR NON-PROFIT ORGANIZATION.
WE ARE THE ONES WHO DID PUT IT ON.
[LAUGHTER] KENNY PENSON IS HERE TODAY AGAIN.
OUR TERRY KELLY SKATE COMPETITION HAD A RAIN OUT ON AUGUST 24TH.
WE HAD A 5K THAT DAY, WHICH TURNED OUT WE THOUGHT WE WERE GOING TO GET 50 ENTRIES.
WE GOT A TOTAL OF 100 [APPLAUSE] AND THAT TURNED OUT REALLY WELL.
THEN OUR SKATE COMPETITION, WE HAD A WINDOW FROM 3:30-6:30.
EVERYBODY GOT OUT THERE WITH BLOWERS AND SQUEEGEES, AND WE WERE ABLE TO PUT ON A SKATE COMPETITION, AND IT TURNED OUT FANTASTIC.
RIGHT NOW, AS OF LAST WEEK, PAUL PENSON WAS IN CALIFORNIA, COMPETING OUT OF EIGHT.
SHE TOOK, I THINK, SEVEN OR SIX.
SHE DIDN'T DO TOO BAD, BUT SHE DID TRY THE HARDEST TRICK THAT ANY OF THE WOMEN WERE TRYING, AND NONE OF THEM COULD DO.
RIGHT NOW, SHE'S IN AUSTRALIA, GETTING READY TO COMPETE AGAIN.
SHE IS MAKING OUR CITY PROUD WHEREVER SHE IS GOING, AND I JUST WANT TO PUT OUT A SHOUT OUT TO OUR LOCAL OLYMPIANS STILL TRAVELING THE PLANET.
>> THAT'S GREAT IN DEED. I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING.
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YES, GO AHEAD SCOTT.>> SORRY, I JUST WANTED TO ADD ONE THING.
OBVIOUSLY, TONS OF RAIN, AND NORMALLY WE GET THE RAIN IN THE AFTERNOON.
OBVIOUSLY, IT'S COMING IN THE MORNING, IT'S COMING IN THE MIDDAY AND IN THE AFTERNOON.
IF ANYONE REACHES OUT TO YOU REGARDING SOME OF THE AREAS NOT BEING MOWED, WE ARE AWARE OF IT.
WE DO HAVE PEOPLE THAT WILL BE HOPEFULLY WORKING THIS WEEKEND FOR SOME COMP TIME AND STUFF LIKE THAT.
IF IT DOESN'T RAIN, OBVIOUSLY.
>> I WAS GOING TO SAY IT LOOKS LIKE FOR TWO SOLID WEEKS.
>> I MYSELF, MY YARD NEVER FLOODS, MY YARD IS FLOODED.
I THINK PEOPLE ARE EXPERIENCING, AND I THINK YOU'LL HAVE PEOPLE WHO ARE HOPEFULLY A LITTLE MORE PATIENT BECAUSE THEY'RE [OVERLAPPING].
>> I WILL SAY WITH THAT AS I KNOW ANDRE DESLEI IN THE UTILITIES DEPARTMENT IS WORKING EXTREMELY HARD WITH THOSE ISSUES.
I KNOW THEY DO A VERY GOOD JOB, SO HE'S WORKING HARD WITH THAT.
BUT IF ANYONE DOES REACH OUT TO YOU, THEY HAVE REACHED OUT TO US REGARDING SOME AREAS BEING LONG AS WE CAN'T BECAUSE IT'S WAY TOO WET, AND WE'LL LITERALLY, GET STUCK, YES.
>> MIGHT BE A GOOD OPPORTUNITY TO MAYBE PUT OUT LIKE JUST ANDRE TODAY, HE HAD TOLD ME, JUST IN A CASUAL CONVERSATION ABOUT THE DRAINS, PEOPLE OPENING THEIR DRAINS.
TODAY, THEY PUT OUT A MESSAGE ABOUT THAT.
MAYBE GOOD TO JUST BE PREEMPTIVE AND PUT OUT A LITTLE VIDEO, LIKE, HEY, WE CAN'T CUT THE GRASS EITHER.
>> JUST THAT PEOPLE REACH OUT TO YOU, JUST WANT TO LET YOU KNOW.
>> I THINK PROACTIVE THAT HELPS PEOPLE BE A LITTLE MORE UNDERSTANDING, ESPECIALLY IF YOU POINTED OUT, OTHERWISE, THEY'RE LIKE[OVERLAPPING].
>> [LAUGHTER] I ALSO JUST WANT TO POINT OUT THAT OUR PARKS CREW, THEY ARE PHENOMENAL.
THEY'RE OUT THERE SOAKING WET EVERY DAY, NOT COMPLAINING MUCH.
[LAUGHTER] THEY'RE NOT COMPLAINING ABOUT THE RAIN.
[LAUGHTER] I'M REALLY PROUD OF THEM AND HAPPY THAT THEY'RE PART OF OUR TEAM.
THAT'S EVERY CREW IN THE CITY, BUT OUR SALT OF PARKS. THANK YOU GUYS.
WITH THAT, [NOISE] I CALLED THE MEETING TO END.
* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.