[1. CALL TO ORDER]
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>> ALL RIGHT, GOOD EVENING, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN AND WELCOME TO THIS MEETING. OF THE CITY COMMISSION. WE WILL START
>> PLEASE RISE FOR THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE.
>> PLEASE BRING US CLOSER TOGETHER AS WE MOVE FORWARD FOR THE GOOD OF FERNANDINA BEACH. WE ALL SAY IT TOGETHER, AMEN.
PLEASE HAVE A SEAT. ALL RIGHT, JUMPING IN, WE HAVE A PACKED
[4.1 PRESENTATION - NASSAU HUMANE SOCIETY - Nassau Humane Society Executive Director Chantel Scherer will present the "City Commission Dog of the Month."]
HOUSE. WE HAVE STANDING ROOM ONLY AT THIS TIME. PLEASE KEEP A PATHWAY. FIRST COUPLE LINES MY CLEAR OUT A LITTLE BIT. MAKE SURE EVERYONE IS SECURED. HAVE A PRESENTATION. SOMEONE WHO CANNOT WAIT ANYMORE, DOG OF THE MONTH. WELCOME. GOOD TO HAVEYOU HERE. >> THIS IS JAZZ. THANK YOU FOR HAVING US. HE IS VERY EXCITED. JAZZ IS ABOUT THREE YEARS OLD.
A TRUE FERNANDINA STRAY. I KNOW. HE HAS BEEN WITH US FOR TWO YEARS. HE IS A GREAT DOG. VERY WELL BEHAVED. HE WROTE IN THE CAR AND JUST LAY DOWN AND SLEPT IN IS REALLY GOOD ON HIS LEAD. THE ONLY THING IS THAT HE IS NOT VERY GOOD WITH YOUNG
CHILDREN. >> YES, IF SOMEONE WANTS TO ADOPT JAZZ, HOW CAN THEY DO IT?
>> COME OUT TO THE HUMANE SOCIETY OR VISIT US ONLINE AT
NASA HOW HUMANE.ORG. >> ONE MORE QUESTION, HOW IS
THE SHELTER? ARE WE PACKED? >> WE ARE ALWAYS FULL. WE RESCUE FROM KILL SHELTERS. WHEN WE ADOPT OUT AN ANIMAL, WE RESCUE ANOTHER FROM THE KILL LIST AND GIVE THEM A SECOND
CHANCE. >> THANK YOU. WE HAVE A GREAT
[4.2 PROCLAMATION - "HOMELESS ANIMALS’ DAY" AND “HOMELESS ANIMALS’ MONTH” - Proclaiming August 17, 2024, as “Homeless Animals' Day" and the month of August 2024 as “Homeless Animals' Month". Cats Angels Inc. Executive Director Sherri Merrit will be in attendance to accept.]
GROUP HERE TONIGHT. LET'S FIND JAZZ AT HOME.>> HI. >> IS MS. SHERRI MERRIT HERE? COME ON DOWN FROM C.A.T.S. ANGELS. THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE, WE APPRECIATE IT. LET'S TALK ABOUT STRAY CATS AND STRAY DOGS. WE ARE GOING TO TALK ABOUT HOMELESS ANIMALS. IT IS INTERNATIONAL HOMELESS ANIMALS DAY. TO COMMEMORATE ANNUALLY THE THIRD SATURDAY IN AUGUST. ON SIX DIFFERENT CONTINENTS AND THIS IS A BIG DEAL AROUND THE WORLD. IT IS AT C.A.T.S.
ANGELS. IT BRINGS TOGETHER ANIMALS, ORGANIZATIONS, POLICE OFFICERS, EMERGENCY RESPONDERS, AND COMMUNITY ORGANIZERS, SPORTS TEAMS, AND MANY OTHERS THROUGHOUT THE SUMMER TO HELP ANIMALS ON FERAL STRAY CATS AND DOGS THAT HAVE BEEN LEFT TO FEND FOR THEMSELVES. AS A RESULT OF HOMELESS ANIMALS DAYS, MANY HAVE BEEN NEUTERED AND SAVED. THE UNWAVERING SUPPORT HAS PRESENTED THE BIRTH OF UNWANTED PUPPIES AND KITTENS. HELPING COUNTLESS TRAYS THAT BATTLE HUNGER AND ABUSE. SUPPORT C.A.T.S. ANGELS INCORPORATED. A CHARITABLE ORGANIZATION WHO RECEIVES $2000 PER MONTH TO CONTROL THE OVERPOPULATION OF UNWANTED FELINES IN FERNANDINA BEACH AND GREATER NASSAU COUNTY. THERE FOR, I WOULD RATHER BE BY THE AUTHORITY AS THE MAYOR OF OUR CITY TO PROCLAIM AUGUST 17TH AS HOMELESS ANIMAL DAY IN THE MONTH OF AUGUST AS HOMELESS ANIMALS MONTH. WE ARE DOUBLING DOWN, THAT'S WHY WE BELIEVE IT IS SO MUCH. I WANT TO SIGN MY SEAL. THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE,
MS. SHERRY. >> I WOULD LIKE TO SAY THAT CATS ANGEL HAS BEEN YOUR FOR THE LAST 24 YEARS AND WE HAVE
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NEUTERED OVER 24,000 CATS IN OUR COMMUNITY.>> OH GOSH. >> COULD NOT HAVE BEEN DONE WITHOUT THE GENEROSITY AND GOODWILL OF OUR COMMUNITY.
>> THANK YOU SO MUCH TO MS. SHERRY. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT,
[4.3 PRESENTATION - POLICE DEPARTMENT - Chief of Police Jeffrey Tambasco will swear in newly hired Police Officers Felix Castillo and Colby Albert.]
MOVING RIGHT ALONG, WE DO HAVE ANOTHER SPECIAL GUEST IN THE ROOM. BEFORE WE GET TO THAT SPECIAL GUEST, WE HAVE A SPECIAL NOT GUEST. THE CHIEF OF POLICE, THANK YOU FOR BEINGHERE TONIGHT. >> JEFFREY TAMBASCO , POLICE DEPARTMENT, HELLO, VICE MAYOR AND COMMISSIONERS, I'M EXCITED TO STAND BEFORE YOU AND INTRODUCE TWO OF THE NEWEST RELEASE OFF HERS. I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO THANK ALL OF THE OFFICERS I CAME HERE TO SUPPORT THEIR PEERS. THE FIRST POLICE OFFICER, EAGAN'S CREEK GREW UP IN PORT SAINT USUALLY -- LUCY AND REMAINS IN THE RESERVE. IT IS IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT WHILE FELIX WAS IN THE POLICE ACADEMY, GIVEN MULTIPLE CONDITIONAL OFFERS OF EMPLOYMENT. HE DECIDED TO JOIN OUR FAMILY. WE ARE GRATEFUL. FELIX IS HERE TONIGHT WITH HIS WIFE TIFFANY, THEIR THREE CHILDREN, FELIX JR., ISAAC, AND FAITH. THE SECOND NEW POLICE OFFICER, COLBY ALBERT GREW UP IN JACKSONVILLE AND HERE IN NASSAU COUNTY. HE ATTENDED FERNANDINA BEACH HIGH SCHOOL AND ENROLLED IN THE POLICE ACADEMY. COLBY WANTED TO WORK FOR US AS THIS IS HIS HOME AND HE WANTS TO GIVE BACK TO HIS COMMUNITY. COLBY WILL ACCOMPANIED BY HIS PARENTS, RICH AND JENNIFER TONIGHT.
>> CAN I HAVE JENNIFER AND TIFFANY UP, PLEASE. AND FAITH? ALL RIGHT, LEFT HAND ON THE BIBLE, RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND.
REPEAT AFTER ME. I, STATE YOUR NAME. RESIDENT OF THE STATE OF FLORIDA, DUBAI SOLEMNLY SWEAR TO SUPPORT, PROTECT, AND DEFEND THE CONSTITUTION OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, THE CONSTITUTION OF THE STATE OF FLORIDA, THE CHARTER OF THE CITY OF FERNANDINA BEACH AGAINST ALL ENEMIES, FOREIGN AND DOMESTIC. I WILL BEAR TRUE FAITH, LOYALTY, AND ALLEGIANCE . I WILL FAITHFULLY PERFORM THE DUTIES OF A POLICE OFFICER FOR THE FERNANDINA BEACH POLICE DEPARTMENT FOR WHICH I HAVE ENTERED, SO HELP ME GOD. LET'S CONGRATULATE THESE TWO NEW
>> THANK YOU SO MUCH, GUYS. CONGRATULATIONS.
[4.4 PRESENTATION - "FERNANDINA 200" - In commemoration of Fernandina Beach's 200th Anniversary, Lighthouse Keeper Thomas Patrick O'Hagan will provide a presentation at the first City Commission Regular Meeting of each month in the year 2024.]
>> THANK YOU, SIR. >> THE LAST ITEM IN SECTION 4, AND ANOTHER THEN THE CITY'S 200TH ANNIVERSARY WE HAVE BEEN CELEBRATING ALL YEAR LONG. AS EVERYONE IS FILTERIG OUT, THAT IS THE LIGHTHOUSE KEEPER, THOMAS PATRICK O'HAGAN .
>> EVERYONE OF YOU THAT IS LEAVING BEFORE I GIVE MY PRESENTATION. GOOD EVENING MR. MAYOR, VICE MAYOR, HONORABLE COMMISSIONS AND THE GREAT CITIZENS OF FERNANDINA BEACH.
CONGRATULATIONS TO THE NEW LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS AND WONDERFUL TO SEE SO MANY PEOPLE SUPPORTING LOCAL LAW ENFORCEMENT, COULD HAVE THEM IN FERNANDINA BEACH. AS WE TURN AROUND, WE KNOW THAT WE ARE COMING UP ON THE 200TH ANNIVERSARY AND THOMAS PATRICK AS THE LIGHTHOUSE KEEPER. IF
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YOU TAKE A LOOK, STARTING TOMORROW, WE ENCOURAGE EVERYONE TO COME OUT TO THE PHOTOGRAPHY EXHIBIT, IMAGES OF FERNANDINA.BEAUTIFUL PHOTOGRAPHY. AUGUST 17TH. WE ARE NOT SERVING CHICKEN DOWN THERE WHAT YOU HAVE IS GOING TO BE CARS AND AIRPLANES. CARS AND AIRPLANES, THEY WILL BE TALKING ABOUT THAT FROM 10:00 A.M. TO 2:00 P.M. AT THE PARK. THEN WE MOVE TO NEXT MONTH. THE HISTORY OF THE WHITE WHALES. FROM 4:00 TO 5:00. FOR THOSE THAT LIKE A GOOD STORY OF A WHALE, COME OUT. AND THEN SEPTEMBER THE 20TH, THE VOICES FROM WESTERN NASSAU. WE HAVE A ONE HOUR WINDOW TO CATCH IT AT THE MUSEUM OF HISTORY. THE ONE I WANT TO POINT OUT IS OCTOBER THE 12TH WITH THE HISPANIC HERITAGE FOOD FESTIVAL, ON SOUTH THIRD STREET. I ENCOURAGE EVERYONE TO GO AND GRAB A BURRITO. THEN WE WILL HAVE THE GREAT SIDE CHRONICLES AND OF COURSE, IT WILL BE LOCATED AT THE CEMETERY. IF ANYBODY HAS ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS ON THIS, MAKE SURE THAT YOU SEE THE CITY'S WEBSITE FOR THE 200 ANNIVERSARY PAGE. JOIN US SUPPORTING MANY OF THE LOCAL ORGANIZATIONS FROM THE T-SHIRTS TO THE DIFFERENT BURIES AFTER.
MAKE SURE YOU GET OUT AND SUPPORT. WE ONLY HAVE A FEW MONTHS LEFT. MR. MAYOR, VICE MAYOR, COMMISSIONERS, THANK YOU VERY MUCH, THANK YOU, CITIZENS.
[5. CONSENT AGENDA]
>> THANK YOU, HEADING OFF. ITEM 5 IS THE CONSENT AGENDA. DO I HEAR A MOTION ON THE CONSENT AGENDA? I HEAR A SECOND. WITH NO FURTHER DISCUSSION, CAN YOU PLEASE CALL THE ROLL?
>> START THE ITEM 6 RESOLUTION, THERE'S ONE THING WE DISCUSSED IN THE WORKSHOP, WE WANT TO DISCUSS IT AGAIN TONIGHT. A MOTION TO DISCUSS SOMETHING WE TALKED ABOUT THE WORKSHOP THAT WE WANT TO TALK ABOUT AGAIN TONIGHT.
>> I WILL BRING UP THE DISCUSSION FOR NAMING THE SKATE PARK. THAT IS WHAT WE TALKED ABOUT. THE IDEA THAT I BROUGHT FORWARD AND I WANT TO MOVE FORWARD WITH IT. I WOULD LIKE
TO DISCUSS IT THIS EVENING. >> THAT IS JUST TO PUT IT ON THE AGENDA FOR DISCUSSION. IS THERE A SECOND? EMOTION AND A SECOND ON THIS BOAT. THIS PUTS IT ON THE AGENDA. THAT IS ALL WE ARE VOTING ON RIGHT NOW. IF ANYBODY WANTS TO DISCUSS THIS MOTION BEFORE WE VOTE ON IT? SEEING NONE, PLEASE CALL THE
>> THAT PASSES, 4-1. NOW WE GET TO HAVE THE DISCUSSION. IT IS ON THE AGENDA, IT IS RIGHT THERE. DO I HEAR A MOTION NOW
ON THE ITEM ITSELF? >> I WILL MAKE A MOTION TO NAME THE SKATE PARK AFTER OUR OLYMPIAN SKATER. THERE CANNOT BE A BETTER OPTION. I KNOW THERE WAS A LOT OF DISCUSSION
ABOUT IT. >> GOOD, I HEAR THAT MOTION.
>> A MOTION AND A SECOND. WE WILL NOW OPEN THE FLOOR FOR
DISCUSSION. >> I WOULD LIKE TO START THIS OFF BY SAYING THE HIGHEST CONGRATULATIONS, AN AMAZING FEAT OF TALENT. I'M SO PROUD OF HER. I WANT TO PRESENT THE DEVILS ADVOCATE ARGUMENT AS WHY IT MIGHT BE DICEY NAMING IT AFTER AN INDIVIDUAL. LET'S SAY FOUR YEARS FROM NOW WE HAVE ANOTHER OLYMPIAN. IT WILL BE A CHALLENGE COMPETING FOR WHO DESERVES THE NAME. I'M MUCH MORE IN FAVOR OF A COMMEMORATIVE PLAQUE WHERE MULTIPLE ATHLETES CAN BE RECOGNIZED. NOT PUTTING US IN A PRECARIOUS SITUATION.
>> OKAY, LET'S GO TO COMMISSIONER ROSS.
>> I WOULD AGREE. FIRST OF ALL, AS PUBLIC POLICY, YOU SHOULD NOT BE NAMING PUBLIC BUILDINGS, WE START A NAMING POLICY IN THE CITY AND WE VOTED FOR THAT I VOTED NOT TO GET RID OF IT. I
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STILL FEEL THAT IT IS BAD PUBLIC POLICY . THE YOUNG LADY DID AN EXTRAORDINARY JOB AND SHOULD BE COMMENDED. I THINK THE COMPROMISE MIGHT BE TO CALL IT OLYMPIC PARK AND THEN HAVE A LIST OF OLYMPIANS WHO PARTICIPATED. THAT WOULD GIVE YOUNG PEOPLE SOMETHING TO STRIVE FOR. I WOULD AGREE WITHCOMMISSIONER ANTON. >> I DISAGREE IF FOR SOME REASON IN THE FUTURE AND SOMETHING CHANGES, WE CAN TALK ABOUT AND GET IT ADJUSTED. WE HAVE DONORS FOR THAT PART WE ARE LOOKING INTO THE PLAQUE AND WE SHOULD NAME IT AFTER POE PINSON, AND BE RIDICULOUS NOT TO.
>> I WILL SPEAK LAST, I COMPLETELY AGREE THAT WE NEED TO NAME THIS AFTER POE PINSON, SHE REPRESENTED HER COUNTRY WITH DISTINCTION AND SHE CAME FROM HERE. THIS IS HER HOME SKATE PARK. THIS IS SOMETHING THAT DOES NOT HAPPEN EVERY DAY, IT DOESN'T HAPPEN EVERY DECADE, THIS DOES NOT HAPPEN ALL THE TIME. TO HAVE AN OLYMPIAN FROM FERNANDINA IS SPECIAL IN ITSELF. SOMETHING WE NEED TO RECOGNIZE. I'M THANKFUL TO THE COMMISSION FOR ALLOWING US TO HAVE THIS CONVERSATION AND THANK YOU FOR CONSIDERING THIS, WE SHOULD NAME THIS THE POE PINSON SKATE PARK. THE REASON WE HAD PUT THIS ON THE AGENDA TONIGHT, WE WILL HAVE THIS DONE BY THE TIME SHE COMES BACK HOME FOR THE WELCOME HOME PARADE ON THE 16TH. I APPRECIATE EVERYBODY GET INVOLVED IN THIS. WITH NO FURTHER DISCUSSION, I DO SEE, ROSS, YOUR LIGHTS ARE ON.
>> WE HAVE TO DO PUBLIC COMMENT FOR ANYONE WHO WISHES TO SPEAK.
>> THIS IS THE FINAL VOTE. WOULD ANYBODY LIKE TO SPEAK ON THIS ISSUE? WAIT ONE SECOND. YES, YOU DID HAVE IT. THE SKATE
PARK. MS. CODY, COME ON DOWN. >> THANK YOU, 1550 INDIGO STREET, FIRST I WOULD WANT TO SAY, THANK YOU TO MR. PINSON I WOULD LIKE TO THANK THE FRIENDS OF FERNANDINA FOR DOING WHAT THEY CAN WITH A MINIMAL SKATE PARK. AND I SUPPORT, FULLY, RECOGNIZING POE. THERE WERE MANY PEOPLE WATCHING AT HOME AND CELEBRATING IT. I REALLY HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THE WAY THIS IS GOING DOWN. IN A RUSH, AS USUAL, TO CIRCUMVENT THE PROCESS. THIS NAMING PROCESS SHOULD BE GOING THROUGH PARKS AND REC ADVISORY BOARD, IT IS NOT. I THINK THAT NAMING PEOPLE WHILE THEY ARE ALIVE IS TYPICALLY A PROBLEM FOR THE REASONS THAT COMMISSIONER ANTON MENTIONED. AND THERE IS A WAY TO RECOGNIZE THIS YOUNG WOMAN AND HER ACCOMPLISHMENTS AND I WOULD LIKE TO REMIND PEOPLE THAT ALTHOUGH SHE GREW UP GOING HERE BECAUSE IT WAS CONVENIENT, SHE ALSO HAS TO GO SOMEWHERE ELSE TO SKATE AND DO THE THINGS THAT SHE DOES BECAUSE OUR SKATE PARK DOES NOT AFFORD THAT. AGAIN, THAT IS SOMETHING WE OUGHT TO BE THOUGHTFUL AND PLANNING DESERVES THAT. SHE DESERVES THE RECOGNITION AND THE THOUGHTFULNESS AND WHAT WE ARE DOING. I WOULD ASK YOU NOT TO ACT IN HASTE. AND FIGURE OUT THE WAY THAT YOU CAN HONOR HER IS TO MAKE SURE THE REST OF THE KIDS IN THE COMMUNITY HAVE A GOOD SKATE PARK. THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU. LET'S INVITE BACK AGAIN, MR. NICHOLS, COME
ON DOWN, SIR. >> MICHAEL NICHOLS, CITY
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RESIDENT. I WANT TO CONGRATULATE POE ON A PHENOMENAL AND EXCITING RUN THAT SHE HAD. SHE WAITED UNTIL THE LAST TWO JOBS TO MAKE IT INTO THE FINALS. THE MOST EXCITING THING THAT ME AND MY FAMILY AND THEIR WOEFUL ROOM -- OF PEOPLE, I AM COMPLETELY IN FAVOR OF HONORING HER NAME ON THE PARK. I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE MAKE IT A PARK WORTHY OF HER NAME. WE NEED TO KEEP MOVING FORWARD MAKING THIS PLACE A VERY SPECIAL PLACE. FERNANDINA IS A SPECIAL PLACE AND WE CAN HAVE A GREAT FACILITY DOWN THERE WHERE WE CAN HONOR THIS GREAT INDIVIDUAL.>> ALSO, MR. -- COME ON DOWN. >> THE EXACT WORDS FROM POE PINSON WHEN I SENT KENNY PINSON TEXT WHEN HE WAS IN PARIS, KENNY AND THE MAYOR HAVE DECIDED TO NAME POE PINSON PARK WITH COMMISSIONER STURGIS BRINGING IT UP. IT TOOK A DAY FOR HIM TO RESPOND. SHE IS OUT IN PARIS HAVING A GOOD TIME.
HER RESPONSE AS A TYPICAL 19-YEAR-OLD OLYMPIAN, UM, YEAH, I GUESS THAT IS FINE. YEAH, THAT'S COOL. THAT IS FROM POE PINSON WANTING TO HAVE THE NAMED UNDER HER. IF SHE DOES NOT MIND A PARK BEING NAMED AFTER HER. LET HER ENJOY THIS WHILE SHE IS ALIVE. I WOULD HATE FOR SOMEONE TO BE DEAD TO ENJOY THE NAME ON A PARK. YEAH, I THINK IT'S COOL.
>> NOW WE WELCOME GWEN AND HOLDEN JOHNSON.
>> HELLO. GWEN JOHNSON, 9791 YORK SHIRE DRIVE.
>> WE BOTH THINK THAT THE SKATE PARK SHOULD BE NAMED AFTER POE BECAUSE SHE IS VERY WONDERFUL. SHE'S VERY GOOD AT SKATING.
SHE IS AN AWESOME HUMAN BEING AND IS VERY MUCH DESERVING TO HAVE THE PARK NAMED AFTER HER. IT WOULD MEAN A LOT TO HAVE A BETTER PARK TO HAVE HER NAME BEYOND. IT WOULD BE AWESOME.
>> THANK YOU FOR BEING WITH US. YES.
>> POE IS A REALLY GOOD PERSON. AND IS A REALLY GOOD FRIEND. WE HAVE A RAMP IN OUR BACKYARD, SHE COMES IN SKATES ON THE
BACKYARD. >> THANK YOU FOR BEING WITH US.
ANY OTHER PUBLIC COMMENT ON THIS ITEM? THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
I WILL CLOSE BY REITERATING, WHAT A GREAT REPRESENTATIVE OF OUR COMMUNITY THAT MS. PINSON IS. I THINK WE DID A GREAT JOB NAMING THE GREENWAY. IT WAS GREAT TO DO THAT WHILE HE WAS ALIVE. ANYWAY, BOTTOM LINE, WE ALL OF THE MAYOR AND IT IS A GOOD THING TO DO SO THAT PEOPLE CAN SEE THE HONOR WE ARE GIVING HER. SHE HAS GRACED OUR COMMUNITY AND WE SHOULD RETURN THE FAVOR. WE PLEASE CALL THE BOAT?
>> WILL BE AN OFFICIAL CEREMONY TO COME. WE WILL UNVEIL A NEW SIGN
[6.1 LOBBYING SERVICES AGREEMENT - JACOBS, SCHOLZ & WYLER, LLC. - RESOLUTION 2024-132 APPROVING A THREE-YEAR LOBBYING SERVICES AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE CITY AND JACOBS SCHOLZ & WYLER, LLC FOR STATE AND FEDERAL LOBBYING SERVICES FOR FISCAL YEAR 2024/25, FISCAL YEAR 2025/26, AND FISCAL YEAR 2026/27; AUTHORIZING EXECUTION; AND PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE. Synopsis: Approves a three-year lobbying services agreement with Jacobs, Scholz & Wyler, LLC in an amount not to exceed $75,000 per year.]
AT SOME POINT. WE WILL WORK THAT OUT ON A PLACE AND TIME.HOPEFULLY WE CAN MAKE THAT WORK. WE WILL HAVE THAT COMING UP SOON. LET'S GO TO RESOLUTION 6.1, THE LOBBYING SERVICE AGREEMENT FOR JACOBS SCHOLZ & WYLER, LLC . THAT IS
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$75,000 PER YEAR WHICH IS THE SAME THING THAT THE FIRM HAS CHARGED US. NO PRICE INCREASE FOR THE NEXT THREE YEARS. STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL. I HEAR A MOTION AND A SECOND. ANY COMMISSION OR DISCUSSION ON THIS?>> THANK YOU, MAYOR. I WANT TO REITERATE THAT THIS COULD BE THE CHEAPEST AMOUNT OF MONEY THAT THE CITY CAN SPEND FOR THE MOST VALUE WHEN WE HAVE 1000% RETURN IN THE LAST THREE YEARS THEY ARE AMAZING PEOPLE. THANK YOU.
>> I WANT TO REITERATE, IT IS AWESOME TO WATCH BUDDY WORK.
THAT IS A TOUGH SPACE TO NAVIGATE IN.
>> A FIXTURE IN TALLAHASSEE. I CANNOT SING HIS PRAISES ENOUGH.
AFTER MAKING INTO THE BUDGET ON THE STATE LEVEL. I APPRECIATE ALL THE WORK THAT THEY DO. THIS IS AWESOME.
>> EVERYTHING HAS BEEN SAID, NOT EVERYONE HAS SAID IT.
JACOBS IS THE PERSON THAT WE NEED REPRESENTING US, HE CARES AND IS PASSIONATE ABOUT HIS COMMUNITY. I AM GLAD THAT WE CAN PASS THIS. PLEASE CALL THE ROLL.
[6.2 SETTLEMENT AGREEMENT - OCEAN HIGHWAY AND PORT AUTHORITY - RESOLUTION 2024-133 APPROVING THE MEDIATED SETTLEMENT AGREEMENT IN THE CASE OF CITY OF FERNANDINA BEACH VS. OCEAN, HIGHWAY AND PORT AUTHORITY OF NASSAU COUNTY; AUTHORIZING EXECUTION; AND PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE. Synopsis: Formally approves the settlement agreed to at the July 2, 2024, public mediation in the matter of the City of Fernandina Beach v. Ocean Highway and Port Authority of Nassau County, Case 2020-CA-000284: $50,000 annual PILOT payments beginning in 2024 and every year thereafter; City accepts $137,000 in total satisfaction of back payments for 2019-2023 from OHPA.]
IS 6.2. THE SETTLEMENT AGREEMENT FOR THE OCEAN HIGHWAYAND TOWARD AUTHORITY. >> THIS HAS BEEN GOING ON FOR ALMOST FOUR YEARS. THIS IS A SETTLEMENT AGREEMENT RESULTING AFTER TWO PUBLIC MEDIATIONS. AND EXECUTIVE SESSIONS WITH EACH OF THE PARTY ATTORNEYS, WE CAME TO A SETTLEMENT, THAT SETTLEMENT MEANS THAT STARTING THIS YEAR, OCTOBER 1ST, WE WILL BE AGREEING TO THIS. THE PORT AUTHORITY WILL PAY THE CITY $50,000 ANNUALLY ON OR BEFORE OCTOBER 1ST AND FOR THE FIVE YEARS BETWEEN 2019 AND 2023 THAT THE CITY WAS NOT PAID WHICH WAS $250,000 IF PAID THE 50 EVERY YEAR. WE SETTLED FOR $137,000 AS A LUMP SUM TO BE PAID AFTER THE YEARS THAT HAVE NOT BEEN PAID. THAT IS PRETTY MUCH A. WE WILL ASK THE PORT TO
RESERVE JURISDICTION. >> EXCELLENT. DO I HEAR A
MOTION? >> A MOTION AND A SECOND, ANY DISCUSSION ON THIS? I WILL SAY I AM THANKFUL TO THE COURTS FOR COMING BACK TO THE TABLE ON THIS AND TO WORK OUT A DEAL THAT WE CAN ALL BE HAPPY WITH. I WILL GO A STEP FURTHER AND SAY THAT I AM PROUD OF THIS COMMISSION. IT'S OBVIOUS TO SEE THAT WE HAVE A BETTER RELATIONSHIP WITH EVERY BOARD MEMBER IN NASSAU COUNTY. IT IS BETTER WITH THE COUNTY, THE COURT, THE SCHOOL BOARD. THIS IS TESTAMENT TO THAT. WE FINALLY WORKED OUT THIS DEAL GOING FORWARD.
>> THANK YOU, I JUST WANT TO REITERATE THAT I DON'T THINK THAT THIS RELATIONSHIP HAS EVER BEEN BETTER WITH THE COURT OR THE COUNTY COMMISSION OR THE SCHOOL BOARD. I DON'T CARE WHAT OTHER BOARD YOU TALK ABOUT IN OUR AREA. WE HAVE BROUGHT WHAT NEEDS TO BE DONE. THESE FIVE PEOPLE HERE HAVE COMMON AGREEMENTS AND MADE STRIDES LIKE NO OTHER BOARD HAS DONE. I CAN NAME A BUNCH OF THINGS. WE WILL HAVE A SET OF BATHROOMS. A NEW GREEN AREA AT THE SCHOOL BOARD A PARKING LOT. SOME THINGS THAT WILL COME TOGETHER THAT HAVE NEVER COME TOGETHER.
WITH THAT SAID, I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO IT, I'M GLAD THAT WE ARE BACK IN LINE. WE ARE IN AGREEMENT WITH THE PORT AND WE ARE MOVING IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION.
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>> THE FACT THAT THIS IS SOMETHING WE CAN ALL BE HAPPY WITH. I'M NOT HAPPY WITH IT. THE PORT COST $15,000. LOST REVENUE FOR NO PARTICULARLY GOOD REASON. ALTHOUGH YOU SAY THAT WE HAVE A WONDERFUL RELATIONSHIP, IT COST US OVER $100,000. I WOULD SUPPORT THIS, NOT WITH PLEASURE, WE NEED TO
MOVE ON. >> I JUST HAVE A REQUEST TO SPEAK THAT JUST CAME IN, JACK EMBER, COME ON DOWN, SIR. WE WILL TALK ABOUT THE OHPA SETTLEMENT. WELCOME, MR. AMBER.
>> HI, GUYS, 1003 BROOME STREET, FERNANDINA, BEACH , FLORIDA. IT IS PITIFUL THAT IT HAS BEEN GOING ON THIS LONG AND WE ARE ACCEPTING $137,000. LETTING THEM OFF THE HOOK. I AM WONDERING, CITY COMMISSIONERS, IF THIS WAS YOUR MONEY, IF SOMEBODY OWED YOU $250,000, WOULD YOU PUT A LEAN ON THEIR CRANE OR SOMETHING? NO. I GUESS I WOULD. ANYWAY, I'M WATCHING THE CITY, ANYTIME SOMEBODY OWES MONEY, THEY TAKE PENNIES ON THE DOLLAR. A NEIGHBOR AT 108 NORTH 10TH STREET OWES $23,000 FOR A LONG TIME NOW BECAUSE HE IS NEVER GOING TO GET A BUILDING PERMIT AND HE NEVER WILL. WHAT IS THE REPERCUSSIONS? APSLEY NOTHING. I WATCHED THIS BOARD EXCUSE $42,000 IN TREE CUTTING FINDS, JUST GONE. NO REPERCUSSIONS. AT SOME POINT, IT HAS TO END. NOW THERE IS A PRECEDENCE. IN FIVE YEARS, HOW MUCH WILL YOU BE EXCUSING TO THE PORT AUTHORITY FOR THE $50,000 A YEAR THAT ARE OWED? I THINK IT WILL BE HUNDRED $37 AGAIN BECAUSE IT IS SET AS A PRESIDENT, YOU WILL LET THEM.
>> I WOULD LIKE TO RESPOND TO THAT.
>> GO AHEAD. >> THIS SETTLEMENT, BASICALLY, INCLUDES WHAT YOU JUST SAID GOING FORWARD. IT IS AN AGREEMENT IS NEGOTIATED AND I SUPPORTED IT. OUT OF A BAD SITUATION, IT'S THE BEST OUTCOME THAT IT COULD POSSIBLY HAVE. I'M HAPPY WITH IT, I THINK IT'S THE BEST THAT WE IF IT IS MY OWN MONEY, IT IS BECAUSE I AM A TAXPAYER HERE, IT'S THE BEST DEAL WE CAN GET, WE NEED TO MOVE FORWARD AND MOVE ON. I THINK IT'S THE BEST WAY TO GO
>> UNFORTUNATELY, I WILL AGREE WITH COMMISSIONER ROSS, 100,000%. THIS IS THE BEST DEAL AGAINST THE PORT. WE CANNOT LEVY A CRANE. THERE ARE THINGS BEHIND THE SCENES, NOT ALL THE INFORMATION MAKES IT TO THE NEWS LEADER. WHERE ALL THESE THINGS WERE DISCUSSED FOR HOURS AND HOURS AND FOR YEARS ABOUT THIS LAWSUIT. IT IS A NEEDLESS LAWSUIT THAT NEEDED TO BE SETTLED. NEEDLESS BEING WE DON'T WANT TO BE IN A LAWSUIT AND THEY DON'T WANT TO BE IN A LAWSUIT. THE ATTORNEYS FEES WERE GOING TO ECLIPSE THE AMOUNT OF MONEY WE COULD'VE RECOVERED IF WE WENT TO COURT. THE REALITY IS THAT IT IS THE BEST THING LIKE IN A DIVORCE. NOT EVERYBODY IS HAPPY. WE SETTLED, THEY SETTLED, WE MOVE ON, WE HAVE AN AGREEMENT, A PERMANENT AGREEMENT WHEN CHUCK ROSS JUST STATED IT, NOW WE HAVE A PERMANENT AGREEMENT. THERE IS NO GRAY LINE THAT SAYS WE SHOULD NOT BE COLLECTING THIS MONEY. THAT WAS THE RIGHT THING TO DO. EVEN THOUGH I AM NOT OVER ENTHUSED ABOUT IT.
I'M GLAD THAT IT'S OVER WITH. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. I THINK WE TALKED ENOUGH ABOUT THIS. I WILL SAY ONE MORE THING. WE ARE NOT THE ONES WHO STARTED THIS LAWSUIT, WE WILL FINISH IT.
[6.3 SOLE SOURCE VENDOR APPROVAL AND TASK ORDER APPROVAL - OLSEN ASSOCIATES, INC. - RESOLUTION 2024-134 APPROVING OLSEN ASSOCIATES, INC. AS A SOLE SOURCE VENDOR FOR COASTAL ENGINEERING SERVICES AND APPROVING OLSEN ASSOCIATES, INC. TASK ORDER #2024-02 FOR YEAR FIVE OF NASSAU COUNTY SHORE PROTECTION COMPREHENSIVE PHYSICAL MONITORING; AUTHORIZING EXECUTION; AND PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE. Synopsis: Approves Olsen Associates, Inc. as a sole source vendor to complete year five Coastal Engineering Services and approves Task Order #2024-02 for Coastal Engineering Services in the amount of $62,100, of which qualifies for full reimbursement from the Amelia Island Beach Renourishment Municipal Service Taxing Unit (MSTU.)]
>> THAT PASSES, 5-0. MOVING ON TO 6.3. OUR CITY ENGINEER, MR.
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CHARLIE GEORGE. >> THIS IS A SOLE-SOURCE VENDOR APPROVAL FOR RESOLUTION 2024 MINUS 134. A LONGTIME CITY CONSULTANT ON THE WATERFRONT. THIS IS IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE SHORE PROTECTION AND NOURISHMENT PROJECT. THIS IS THE ONE PROJECT THEY'VE BEEN DOING THIS ON FOR THE SERVICES.
THEY WILL BE MONITORING AND SURVEYING. WE GET A FULL REIMBURSEMENT BACK FROM THE MST YOU FIND. IT IS A GREAT PROJECT WITH A GREAT GOAL. DO I HEAR A MOTION? MOTION AND A SECOND.
ANY COMMENT? >> IT WAS CLOSE TO THIS. AROUND THE SAME AMOUNT. SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
>> WHY THE BIG INCREASE? >> RENOURISHMENT IS A MUCH
BIGGER PROJECT. >> I WILL POINT OUT THAT THIS IS A GREAT EXAMPLE OF US GETTING THE MSTU FUND. IT COMES OUT OF EVERYBODY IN THIS ROOM'S POCKET. YEAH, IT IS
GOOD THAT THEY ARE PAYING US. >> CAN I ADD ONE THING? THE CITY IS NOT PAYING A DIME FOR THAT RENOURISHMENT, WE DO NOT HAVE TO PAY A DIME FOR THAT THROUGH THE CORE.
>> THAT IS BIG NEWS FOR THE BEACH. LET'S CALL THE ROLL.
[6.4 GRANT APPLICATION - FLORIDA DEPARTMENT OF ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTION, OFFICE OF GREENWAYS AND TRAILS, TRAIL-GO - RESOLUTION 2024-135 APPROVING GRANT APPLICATION TO THE FLORIDA DEPARTMENT OF ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTION (FDEP), OFFICE OF GREENWAYS AND TRAILS, TRAIL-GO FOR THE RON SAPP EGAN'S CREEK GREENWAY BEECH STREET BRIDGE DECKING AND TOERAIL REPLACEMENT; AUTHORIZING EXECUTION; AND PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE. Synopsis: Authorizes application to the FDEP, Office of Greenways and Trails, TRAIL-GO Grant Program in Fiscal Year 2024/2025 for Ron Sapp Egan's Creek Greenway improvements, in the amount of $150,000.]
GRANT APPLICATION, FLORIDA DEPARTMENT OF ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTION OFFICE OF GREENWAYS AND TRAILS.>> RESOLUTION 2024-135 WHICH IS THE APPLICATION WITH FDEP AND WE WANT TO USE IT FOR MAINTENANCE WITHIN THE
GREENWAYS. >> DO I HEAR A MOTION?
>> MOVING FOR APPROVAL. >> A MOTION AND A SECOND. ANY
DISCUSSION ON THIS? >> MR. ROSS HAS A QUESTION ON
THIS. >> IS THIS AN OPERATIONAL
EXPENSE OR A CAPITAL EXPENSE? >> OPERATIONAL EXPENSE. THIS
WOULD NOT BE CAPITAL. >> PERFECT. WE HAVE GOOD ODDS
ON THIS GRANT? >> I CANNOT ANSWER THAT, MS.
JACOBS PROBABLY COULD. >> 100%, THAT IS GOOD ODDS IF
I'VE EVER HEARD THEM. >> 100% CHANCE OF GETTING THIS
GRANT GRANTED? >> 100% EXCELLENT GRANT WRITERS. THANK YOU, MS. JACOBS. PLEASE CALL THE ROLL.
[6.5 GRANT APPLICATION - FEDERAL AVIATION ADMINISTRATION (FAA) - RESOLUTION 2024-136 AUTHORIZING A FEDERAL AVIATION ADMINISTRATION (FAA) BIPARTISAN INFRASTRUCTURE LAW (BIL) GRANT APPLICATION FOR THE DESIGN PHASE OF PAVEMENT REHABILITATION IN THE AREA OF EXISTING T-HANGAR TAXI LANES AND ENTRANCE ROAD; AUTHORIZING EXECUTION; AND PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE. Synopsis: Approves an application for an FAA BIL grant in the amount of $75,780 to rehabilitate pavement at the Airport.]
>> ANOTHER GRANT APPLICATION FOR THE FEDERAL AVIATION
ADMINISTRATION. >> RESOLUTION 2024-136 AUTHORIZING A GRANT APPLICATION WITH THE FMA FOR THE EXISTING T
ANGER TAXI LANES. >> DO I HEAR A MOTION? ANY DISCUSSION ON THIS? VICE MAYOR?
>> I WILL SAY VERY QUICKLY, IT SOUNDS LIKE WE ARE GETTING A GRANT TO SPEND MONEY ON THE CITY TO IMPROVE THE AIRPORT. IN THIS LINE ITEM, THE NEXT LINE ITEM IN THE NEXT LINE ITEM. BUT YES, I THINK IT IS AN AWESOME IDEA. KEEP BRINGING THE GRANTS AND KEEP GETTING THE MONEY AND KEEP IMPROVING OUR CITY EVERY
DAY. THANK YOU. >> SOUNDS LIKE A WIN, VICE
MAYOR. LET'S CALL THE ROLL. >>
[6.6 PASSERO ASSOCIATES LLC - WORK ORDER 24-110 - TAXIWAY D EXTENSION - RESOLUTION 2024-137 APPROVING PASSERO ASSOCIATES LLC WORK ORDER 24-110 FOR THE DESIGN AND BID PHASE FOR THE MUNICIPAL AIRPORT TAXIWAY D EXTENSION; AUTHORIZING EXECUTION; AND PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE. Synopsis: Approves Work Order 110 in the amount of $154,470 for the design and bid phase for the Taxiway D Extension Project.]
>> THAT PASSES, 5-0. 6.6. 24-110. TAXIWAY D EXTENSION.
>> 24-110 IS THE EXTENSION OF A TAXIWAY AND THE DESIGN WORK WILL BE GRANTED TO PASSERO ASSOCIATES, STAFF RECOMMENDS
APPROVAL. >> DO I HEAR A MOTION? ANY
DISCUSSION ON THIS? >> I DO HAVE A QUESTION. THIS
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IS CONTAINED WITHIN THE AIRPORT BUDGET? EXCELLENT. WITH NO FURTHER QUESTIONS, PLEASE CALL THE ROLL.[6.7 PASSERO ASSOCIATES LLC - WORK ORDER 24-110A - T-HANGAR DESIGN & BID - RESOLUTION 2024-138 APPROVING PASSERO ASSOCIATES LLC WORK ORDER 24-110A FOR THE DESIGN AND BID PHASE FOR THE MUNICIPAL AIRPORT’S NEW T-HANGARS; AUTHORIZING EXECUTION; AND PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE. Synopsis: Approves Passero Associates LLC Work Order 24-110A, in the amount of $71,000, to design and bid new t- hangars at the Airport.]
MINUS 110A THIS IS WHY WE ARE DOING THE TAXIWAY EXTENSION FOR THE DEVELOPMENT OF T HANGERS AT THIS LOCATION. THIS IS A STEP IN THAT DIRECTION. STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL.>> DO I HEAR A MOTION? AND A SECOND? SEEING NONE, PLEASE
[6.8 PÉTANQUE COURTS RELOCATION - RESOLUTION 2024-139 APPROVING THE RELOCATION OF THE AMELIA RIVER WATERFRONT PARK (PARKING LOTS C AND D) PÉTANQUE COURTS TO JOE VELARDI FIELD OR CENTRAL PARK, IN AN AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED $50,000; AND PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE. Synopsis: Approves the relocation of the existing Pétanque Courts from Parking Lots C and D to Joe Velardi Field or Central Park in an amount not to exceed $50,000.]
>> THAT PASSES, FIVE -0. NEXT IS THE QUARTZ RELOCATION.
>> 24-139, THIS IS APPROVING THE COURTS TO MAKE WAY FOR THE NEW PARK. RELOCATING THEM TO ANOTHER LOCATION. STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL OF RELOCATION, THE COMMISSION NEEDS TO WHEN. THIS ONE WAS FROM A COUPLE WEEKS AGO AND THIS WAS A SPLIT VOTE ON WHERE TO RELOCATE THE COURTS, AND STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL. WITH THE RELOCATION, THE FUNDING TO
APPLY THAT RELOCATION. >> I JUST WANT TO CLARIFY. YES, PRATT VOTED 4-2. ONE GOING TO EACH LOCATION, IS THAT CORRECT?
>> LET'S CALL UP SOME OF THE PUBLIC SPEAKERS. FIRST OF ALL,
ANY COMMISSIONER QUESTIONS? >> YES. THE RECOMMENDATION AS
TO WHICH LOCATION? >> STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION WOULD BE JOE VELARDI FIELD FOR THE IMPACT THAT WOULD HAVE TO CENTRAL PARK WITH THE TREES THAT ARE THERE. CENTRAL PARK IS THE PREMIER PARK. THERE ARE A LOT OF ACTIVITIES THERE NOW TAKING UP SOME OF THAT SPACE FOR THE RELOCATION OF THE COURTS, THAT WOULD CALL FOR HEARTACHE IN THE COMMUNITY. I THINK THAT JOE VELARDI WOULD BE BETTER.
>> A QUESTION, JEREMIAH, HAVE YOU SPOKEN TO THE CLUB AND THEY DO THEY HAVE A PREFERENCE, JOE VELARDI OR CENTRAL PARK?
>> THEY ARE HAPPY FOR A NEW HOME. THEIR PREFERENCE IS THAT THE CITY WILL PROVIDE A RELOCATION. THEY CAN CHIME IN AS YOU WOULD SEE FIT. THEY ARE HAPPY FOR A NEW HOME IN SUPPORT
OF THE COMMISSION. >> OF COURSE, THAT IS AN EXCELLENT SEGWAY. THE FIRST SPEAKER THAT I HAVE IS MR. PRESIDENT JOHN ABBOTT. COME ON DOWN, SIR.
>> JOHN ABBOTT, 612 NECTARINE, FERNANDINA BEACH. I THINK WE HAVE SOME OF OUR MEMBERS HERE IF YOU COULD RAISE YOUR HAND.
THE FIRST THING I WOULD LIKE TO DO IS TO THINK SCOTT MICHELSON AND JEREMIAH AND CHARLIE FOR WORKING WITH THE BULLS CLUB TO COME WITH A RESOLUTION TO RELOCATE THE 16 COMPETITION COURTS. THEY WORKED VERY DILIGENTLY WITH US. WE HAVE ARRIVED AT A CONSENSUS. THE CLUB WOULD PREFER TO BE AT JOE VELARDI FIELD. THIS AFFORDS US THE OPTION TO HAVE BRAND-NEW COURTS , A BRAND-NEW TERRAIN WITHOUT ANY RENOVATION AND WE CAN KIND OF GET THE SPECIFICATION WE WANT TO BUILD THESE COURTS. IT GIVES US THE OPPORTUNITY TO EXPAND THOSE COURTS AT THAT LOCATION. THERE ARE SOME EXISTING AMENITIES THAT WOULD ALSO WORK WELL FOR US AT THIS COURT AS WELL. WHILE I'M UP HERE, I ALSO WANT TO SAY THAT AS LONG AS WE ARE HANDING OUT KUDOS, A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO YOU MIGHT'VE SEEN IN THE PAPER THAT WE HAD TWO YOUNG MEN THAT WENT TO DENVER COLORADO TO COMPETE IN THE QUALIFYING FOR THE WORLD JUNIORS AND THEY WILL BE COMPETING IN THE WORLD JUNIOR CHAMPIONSHIP IN MONTREAL IN 2025.
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>> WE ARE VERY PLEASED ABOUT THAT. THAT IS WHY WE HAVE THE COMPETITION WARTS TO PROMOTE THIS KIND OF SUCCESS IN OUR SPORT. THANK YOU. I WOULD BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
>> MR. ROSS. >> YOUR UNDERSTANDING OF THIS AGREEMENT THAT WILL CONTINUE TO PLAY GOING INTO THE FUTURE AT CENTRAL PARK AND YOU WILL ALSO HAVE THIS SET OF FIELDS AT JOE
VELARDI FIELDS. >> THAT IS THE ARRANGEMENT WE HAD BEFORE. WHEN WE HAD A FALL AND WINTER LOCATION AT THE MARINA AND WE PLAYED THE SUMMER GAMES AND THE CLUB SPORT AT CENTRAL PARK DURING THE SUMMER. WE WOULD BE AT JOE VELARDI FIELD DURING THE FALL AND WINTER MONTHS. WHEN IT IS NICE AND SUNNY OUT THERE WHEN IT'S COOLER THAN WE WILL TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THE SHADE AT CENTRAL PARK. THEY WOUL RENOVATED. WE CAN PLAY THEM AS IS. WE ARE READY FOR THE
COMPETITION COURTS. >> THANK YOU. MS. SHEILA CUBBY.
>> 1553 INDIGO STREET, VICE CHAIR OF PARKS AND REC ADVISORY BOARD. I WAS NOT IN FAVOR OF THE JOE VELARDI FIELD FOR THE PETANQUE COURTS. I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THEM BUILT OUT AS THEY SHOULD BE. THEY ARE NOT ENOUGH FOR THE 16 REGULATION PLAY AND THEY ARE NOT THE CORRECT SIZE FOR YOUR GAMES, CORRECT? AT THE INFRASTRUCTURE THAT IS THERE WITH BATHROOMS ALREADY AND PARKING AND THINGS THAT ARE THERE AND THE ACCESSIBILITY, WITH 16 COURTS, THEY CAN ALSO HAVE THE BIG TOURNAMENT. THE ONES THAT THEY CAN HOST AT CENTRAL PARK WHICH IS A VISIBLE PLACE FOR PEOPLE TO SEE THEM, TO REALLY HAVE THE CONNECTIVITY OF THE REST OF CENTER STREET TO EXPAND INTO CENTRAL PARK AND MAKE THAT WONDERFUL CORE DOOR. I DID NOT SEE ANYTHING THAT WOULD NOT BE VERY EXPENSIVE TO MAKE JOE VELARDI ACCESSIBLE FOR ALL THE THINGS THAT THEY NEED. I WOULD BE INTERESTED TO KNOW WHAT THE CITY HAS ALREADY COME UP WITH AS FAR AS THE KIND OF EXPENSE THAT WOULD LOOK LIKE TO OUTFIT JOE VELARDI, IT LOOKS LIKE WE ARE ALREADY DOWN THAT ROAD INSTEAD OF THE OPTION WHICH IS PRESENTED. IT SOUNDS LIKE WE ALREADY HAVE SOMETHING DECIDED. IF SOMEONE CAN ADDRESS THAT, I WOULD APPRECIATE IT.
>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. WE INVITE MS. RHONDA CARNEY, COME
ON DOWN. >> GOOD EVENING, MY NAME IS RHONDA CARNEY I AM THE PRESIDENT OF THE WOMEN'S CLUB OF FERNANDINA BEACH. I'M HERE TONIGHT TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU ARE AWARE THAT OUR CLUB HAS INVESTED INTEREST IN THE IDEA OF MOVING THE PETANQUE COURTS BECAUSE WE OWN A PART OF THAT PROPERTY THAT THE BALL FIELDS OCCUPY. THE CLUBHOUSE PROPERTY IS ADJACENT TO THE FIELD. WE ARE 30 FEET OF THE LAND FOR THE CITY FOR OVER 60 YEARS THAT IT BE USED FOR ATHLETICS. IF YOU SHOULD MOVE FORWARD WITH THE PLACEMENT OF THE COURTS, AT THE BALL FIELD, WE WILL REQUEST A MEETING WITH CITY REPRESENTATIVES REGARDING THE LAND AND THE LEASE.
>> THANK YOU, WE APPRECIATE THAT. CAPTAIN AL MILLS, COME ON
DOWN, SIR. >> AL MILLS, 1425 BROOME STREET. I WANT TO THANK THE COMMITTEE HERE FOR MOVING THE PETANQUE COURSES FROM DOWNTOWN PARKING. THAT IS BETTER SERVED FOR THE WHOLE CITY TO USE THAT FOR PARKING FOR THE DOWNTOWN COMMUNITY AND RESTAURANTS AND EVERYWHERE ELSE. IT IS THE PERFECT PLACE IN CENTRAL PARK FOR THE PETANQUE , A BALL GAME AND BALLPARK. A GREAT LOCATION FOR THEM WITH VERY GOOD PARKING THERE. IT IS NOT A HINDER TO THE DOWNTOWN AREA, THANK YOU.
CAPTIONERS TRANSITIONING ] A QU >> I HAVE A QUESTION, MR. ROSS.
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GOING TO AFFECT YOUR PLAN? >> IT WILL NOT, IN FACT. BUT YEAH, AND THEY'RE CORRECT. THE FIELD NOW IS ON THE PROPERTY, OR ON THE, OF COURSE, THE PROPERTY LINE. WE CAN TAKE A DIGITAL LOOK AT IT IF YOU WANT TO, TO SEE WHERE IT'S AT.
>> LET'S GO AHEAD AND DO THAT.
>> I'D LIKE TO SEE THE PICTURE. THINK THAT'LL HELP. A LITTLE BIT. AND I WOULD ASK FOR A MOTION AT THIS TIME. HOWEVER, I DO THINK THAT MIGHT BE CONTINGENT ON -- ON THIS PICTURE. SO LET'S WAIT FOR A MOMENT AS THIS COMES UP.
>> AND, LET'S SEE -- OKAY. OF COURSE, HERE'S THE WOMEN'S
CLUB. WE'RE GETTING THERE. >> VERY GOOD.
>> SECOND. >> OH, OKAY, PERFECT.
>> OKAY. I'M OUT HERE ON GOOGLE EARTH HERE, OF COURSE.
YOU'RE LOOKING OVER HERE TO THE RIGHT IS THE BACK OF THE LIGHT REC CENTER. THIS IS JOE VELARDI FIELD. AS WE MOVE FURTHER TO THE SOUTH HERE, THIS IS WHERE THE WOMEN'S CLUB IS.
THIS RIGHT HERE, OF COURSE, APPROXIMATE, THIS RIGHT HERE, AND TO THE, TO THE SOUTH, IS, IS THAT PROPERTY. THE FENCE, OF COURSE, IS ON THE PROPERTY, WHICH IS AT -- TALKING ABOUT.
THINK WE COULD SOON -- OUTDO THE INTENT IS, IS TO PUT THOSE COURTS WITHIN THIS FOOTPRINT RIGHT HERE. AND IT WILL NOT IMPACT THAT PROPERTY LINE. PARKING WOULD BE BROUGHT IN, GOT A COUPLE OPTIONS HERE. PARKING COULD BE BROUGHT IN HERE, PARKING COULD BE BROUGHT IN ON THE PIRATES PLAYGROUND SIDE. ONE OF THE REASONS FOR THIS LOCATION IS BECAUSE YOU DO HAVE THOSE AMENITIES THERE AS WELL. THE REST -- PARK -- PARK.
SO THAT'LL BE TAKEN INTO CONSIDERATION AS WE MOVE FORWARD, IF THE COMMISSION CHOOSES TO GO THAT WAY, WE'LL TALK ABOUT THE FURTHER IMPACT OF THE PROJECT. SAY AGAIN? YES.
WE WILL MOVE THE FENCE. >> ALL RIGHT, MR. WEST, I DO HAVE ANOTHER QUESTION HERE. I'M VERY INTERESTED IN MAKING SURE WE DO CONSIDER THESE SPORTS, AND I'M, I'M LOOKING AT A JOE VELARDI FIELD HAS HISTORICALLY BEEN A PLACE FOR PEOPLE TO PLAY SOFTBALL. DO WE HAVE A PLAN, ARE THERE, HOW MANY, HOW MANY PRACTICES OCCUR THERE? DO WE HAVE THE DETAILS ON THAT? AND WHAT, WHAT IS THE INTENT FOR MITIGATION ON THIS
FIELD? >> I CAN. I'M GOING TO BRING UP MR. MICHELSON, A PARKS AND RECREATION DIRECTOR, WHO CAN TELL YOU A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT THE PLAY, AND, AND THE
HISTORY OF THIS, THIS FIELD. >> EXCELLENT. THANK YOU.
>> MICHELSON, DIRECTOR OF PARKS AND RECREATION. SO YEAH, HISTORICALLY THIS IS A LITTLE LEAGUE BASEBALL FIELD. AND MOVING FORWARD IS, OR AT LEAST BABE RUTH BASEBALL AND ELM STREET LITTLE LEAGUE HAVE USED THIS, EVEN IN THE RECENT PAST, IN RECENT HISTORY, FOR PRACTICES. THOSE ARE THE TWO MAIN ORGANIZATIONS THAT WOULD USE IT FOR PRACTICES. WE HAVE BUILT A, AN ADDITIONAL PRACTICE FIELD AT PECK, AT PECK FIELD, AND THE PLAN, OR IN THE CONVERSATIONS WITH THE WHOLE ALVAREZ CHANGE, IS TO WORK WITH ELM STREET LITTLE LEAGUE AS WELL, WITH THE EXISTING SOFTBALL FIELDS THAT ARE OVER AT THE MLK CENTER, MEETING CHARLES ALBERT FIELD, AND THEN AN ADDITIONAL PRACTICE FIELD THAT IS OVER THERE, TO WORK AND EXPAND THE PRACTICE FIELD, AND ALSO ADDITIONAL LIGHTS OVER THERE. SO TEAMS CAN PRACTICE LATER IN THE EVENING. BUT YES, TEAMS DO PRACTICE AND USE THIS FIELD .
>> OKAY, PERFECT. HAVE WE, HAVE YOU HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO COMMUNICATE WITH BABE RUTH ABOUT THIS PARTICULAR ISSUE?
>> I HAVE REACHED OUT TO BABE RUTH, AND I HAVE NOT SPOKEN TO THE PRESIDENT OF ELM STREET LITTLE LEAGUE. I GUESS, I, MY ASSUMPTION IS THEY ARE AWARE OF THIS CHANGE, AND, LIKE I SAID,
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IS THEY CAN PRACTICE AT THE PACK FIELD, AND WITH THOSE CHANGES COMING TO THE MARTIN LUTHER KING FIELDS, I DO BELIEVE THAT WITH THOSE LIGHTS, WE CAN SUPPORT THE ORGANIZATIONS , BOTH OF THOSE ORGANIZATIONS, WITH THEEXISTING PRACTICE FIELD. >> AND, BECAUSE FINALLY, THERE ARE NO LIGHTS. ARE THERE LIGHTS ON JOE VELARDI FIELD CURRENTLY?
>> THERE IS NOT LIGHTS ON JOE VELARDI.
>> SO IT'S NOT A NIGHTTIME FIELD ANYWAY.
>> THAT IS CORRECT. AND THERE IS LIGHT THAT CHARLES ALBERT FIELD, BUT THEIR EXISTING PRACTICE FIELD DOES NOT HAVE
LIGHTS. >> ONE MORE QUESTION. SOMETHING WE'RE LOOKING AT RIGHT NOW, IS BUILDING A NEW PRACTICE FIELD ON THE SCHOOL BOARD PROPERTY ACROSS FROM CENTRAL PARK.
>> YES. THAT IS CORRECT AS WELL. THAT IT WOULD BE A, IT WOULD BASICALLY BE A PRACTICE AREA THAT COULD BE
MULTIFACETED. >> EXCELLENT. AND MY, MY NEXT QUESTION IS, I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT, I KNOW YOU SPOKE ABOUT HOW WE'RE ADDING NEW FIELDS FOR, FOR BASEBALL AND SOFTBALL AT MLK, AND HOW WE'RE LOOKING AT NEW FIELDS THERE.
COULD WE MAKE SURE, I KNOW IT'S GOING TO BE A MULTIPURPOSE PRACTICE FIELD FOR GENERAL SPORTS. COULD WE MAKE SURE ONE CORNER OF THAT FIELD POSSIBLY WOULD HAVE A BACKSTOP, SO ONE OF THE MULTI-PURPOSES -- COULD BE BASEBALL, IS THAT
DOABLE? >> YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE
NEW FIELD -- >> THE NEW FEEL THAT WE'RE
ADDING. >> YEAH, IF THEY'RE IN
AGREEMENT WITH THAT, THEN -- >> IT'S NOT THAT I SAY NO.
THEY MADE IT PERFECTLY CLEAR THAT THEY WANT NO VERTICAL IMPROVEMENTS, AND MADE THAT PERFECTLY CLEAR. YOU, YOU, THAT WAS THE DEAL FOR THEM. THAT THEY WOULD BE A FLAT FIELD, NO
VERTICAL IMPROVEMENT. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
>> YEAH, SO, I MEAN, RIGHT. I THINK THAT'S ABOVE MY LEVEL.
>> WELL, THANK YOU. >> WELL, HEY, EXCELLENT POINTS.
>> I THINK, SO, SO BASICALLY, THOUGH, MOVING FORWARD IS IF THIS IS THE LOCATION, THE, THE ADDITIONAL PRACTICE FIELD AT THE PACK FIELD, AND IF WE DO MOVE FORWARD, WHICH I BELIEVE IT IS THE DIRECTION WE'RE GOING, WITH THE IMPROVEMENTS AT THE MARTIN LUTHER KING RECREATION CENTER, WITH THOSE FIELDS, AND THE, AND BASICALLY SCHEDULING THE PRACTICES ACCORDINGLY THROUGHOUT THOSE EXISTING FIELDS, WE FEEL LIKE WE WILL HAVE ENOUGH PRACTICE FIELDS FOR THESE ORGANIZATIONS.
>> THAT'S GOOD. EXCELLENT ASSESSMENT. THANK YOU. I APPRECIATE YOUR -- I DO WANT TO HEAR FROM ONE MORE PERSON. I HAVE A REQUEST TO SPEAK FROM -- I WAS GOING TO CALL YOU OUT IF YOU DIDN'T TURN THIS IN, BUT MR. KONTERRA COME DOWN. I WANT TO HEAR FROM, FROM BABE RUTH. IN PARKS AND REC. YOU'VE GOT A LOT OF HATS TO WEAR. JUST SPEAK ON THIS.
>> TOM CAMERA, 1518 NORTH PARK DRIVE BEHIND THE VICE PRESIDENT OF BASEBALL FOR BABE RUTH. WHEN WE APPROACH THIS WHOLE THING, WE WERE UNDER THE, THEN PACK WAS UNDERUSED AS OF TODAY. IT NEEDS TO BE USED. DOESN'T MEAN THAT BABE RUTH HAS TO USE IT.
WE'RE SATISFIED THAT WE CAN WORK WITH A 330 KIDS THAT WE HAVE ON OUR OWN FIELDS, AND ADDRESSED TO WHAT WE NEED. BUT HAVING THIS ABILITY TO GO TO PACK, ON AN OFF NIGHT THAT SOFTBALL MAY NEED IT MORE THAN US IN THE FUTURE, THAT'S FINE WITH US. WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO, AND I EXPLAINED IT TO THE BOARD LAST WEEK, WAS THAT WE NEEDED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE GOOD STEWARDS FOR THE CITY, AND THE CITY HAS BEEN GOOD STEWARDS TO US. SO GIVING THE, THE -- WHAT THEY NEEDED WAS IMPORTANT, BECAUSE THEY NEED A HOME. THEY NEED TO FIND SOMEWHERE WHERE THEY CAN SAY, THIS IS THEY ARE, YOU KNOW? AND HAVE OWNERSHIP OVER IT. SO BEING PART OF THAT IS IMPORTANT TO BOTH BABE RUTH, BECAUSE OF WHAT THE CITY HAS DONE FOR US, IN THE PAST THREE YEARS. HAS INCREASED OUR VISIBILITY TO GATHER ALMOST 10% TO 15% INCREASE EVERY YEAR. WE CAN PROBABLY GO UP TO 400 KIDS.
AND STILL STAY WITHIN THE FRAMEWORK OF, OF CENTRAL PARK.
SO THANK YOU. >> MR. CAMERON, THANK YOU FOR YOUR WORK IN THE WHOLE COMMUNITY, PARKS AND REC, AND NEIGHBORHOOD. THANK YOU SIR. ALL RIGHT. WE HAVE A QUESTION.
>> THANK YOU, MAYOR. VERY BRIEFLY, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WERE BROUGHT UP, THAT YOU BROUGHT UP PACK AND DISCUSSED THAT PRACTICE FIELD, AND IT IS OUT THERE, IT DOES EXIST, THE COMMUNITY OUT THERE, THE FEEDBACK THAT I HEARD ON MY DAY AT THE RAZORBACK PROGRAM, WAS THAT THERE'S TWO OR THREE ITEMS THAT THEY WOULD LIKE OUT THERE AT PACK, AND I DON'T KNOW IF PARKS AND REC IS AWARE OF THIS OR NOT, BUT THERE'S NO WATER OUT THERE AT THAT FIELD, AND THERE'S NO SHADE, AND
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THERE'S NO BACKSTOP. SO EVEN IF IT WAS A SMALL LITTLE BACK DROP, THEY SAID EVEN IF IT WAS THREE FOOT TALL, THEY THINK IT WOULD BE A BIG IMPROVEMENT, AND THERE'S NO WATER DOWN THERE AT THAT SIDE OF THE FIELD. AND THEY'RE SAYING THE BACK IS NOT BIG ENOUGH. I'M JUST TELLING YOU WHAT I HEARD. I'M NOTSAYING THAT I KNOW IT. >> THIS SOUNDS LIKE SOME GOOD INFORMATION -- IT'S MINOR STUFF.
>> JUST THROWING IT OUT THERE WHILE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IT.
>> I THINK WE SHOULD THROW -- YOU PUT THE PACK CENTER FIELD IMPROVEMENTS ON THE NEXT WORKSHOPS, SO WE CAN DISCUSS THAT, HOW WE COULD MAKE THAT BETTER. TONIGHT, LET'S TALK ABOUT HOW THE COURTS ARE GOING. AND HONESTLY, I'LL SAY THAT I
FEEL -- >> YEAH. COMMENT ON IT. I DO BELIEVE THAT THE JOE VELARDI FIELD ARE UNDERUSD, YOU KNOW? IN MY COACHING TIMEFRAME, I THINK MAYBE ONE TIME WE WENT OUT THERE. THERE'S ALSO A BACKSTOP AT CENTRAL PARK, SO SOME OF THE TABLE TEAMS CAN USE THAT ONE. I MEAN, THEY'RE NOT GOING TO BE EITHER HEADING INTO THE BAWLS CLUB, AND IF THEY DO, THEN WE NEED TO SIGN THEM UP TO A DIFFERENT -- SOMETHING ELSE.
AND SO I THINK THAT THE BACKSTOP THERE WOULD HELP AS WELL, AND GETS SOME OF THE KEY BALL FIELDS, SOME OF THE T-BALL TEAMS CAN GO OVER. AND I KNOW THAT THEY DO A GREAT JOB OVER AT BABE RUTH, AND SPREADING OUT THE PRACTICE SCHEDULES AND STUFF. SO I THINK THERE'S ENOUGH FOR THAT, THAT VELARDI JUST DOESN'T, JUST DOESN'T GET USED, THAT I KNOW OF. SO
I'M JUST MAKING THAT POINT. >> WELL, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
AND I'LL FINISH BY SAYING, I CAME IN TONIGHT THINKING VELARDI WAS THE WAY TO GO WITH THIS. AND NOW THAT I'VE HEARD FROM MR. CAMERON , AND WE HAVE BABE RUTH BUYING ON THIS, I THINK IT'S ABSOLUTELY THE RIGHT CHOICE DID SO WITH THAT,
DO I HEAR ANY MOTION? >> MOTION TO APPROVE.
>> SECOND. >> INCLUDED IN THAT MOTION NEEDS TO BE PARTICULARLY WHICH OPTION, BECAUSE THERE'S TWO
OPTIONS SENSE. >> AL APPROVE THE MOTION FOR JOE VELARDI FIELD AT THE REQUEST.
>> SECOND. >> MOTION AND A SECOND ON THE JOE VELARDI FIELD AT PETANQUE COURTS THERE. ANY DISCUSSION ON
>> THE MOTION ASSUMES THAT THEY WOULD CONTINUE TO HAVE THEIR FIELD, THEIR PETANQUE COURTS AT CENTRAL PARK. CORRECT?
>> YES, I BELIEVE THIS ITEM HAS NO BEARING ON CENTRAL PARK.
THIS IS ONLY AFFECTING THE PARKS AT THE PETANQUE COURTS THAT WERE FORMALLY AT THE RIVER ARE NO LONGER AT THE RIVER.
THEY WILL BE BEHIND THE REC CENTER.
>> ALL RIGHT. >> THE CITY COMMISSION TAKETH AWAY, BUT THE CITY COMMISSION GIVE US BACK.
>> ALL RIGHT. ALL RIGHT, SO WITH THAT, DO I HEAR A VOTE?
>> COMMISSIONER AYSCUE? >> YES.
>> MAYOR BEAN? >> AND YES. THAT PASSES 5-0.
THANK YOU EVERYBODY FOR BEING OUT HERE TONIGHT. OKAY. HAVE SOME PEOPLE FILTERING OUT. SAFER DISCUSSION ON 2124 AMELIA ROAD. THAT'S WHAT WE'RE GOING TO GO TO. WE'RE GOING TO GIVE A BRIEF 62ND, JUST, WE'RE GOING TO GO AHEAD AND LET YOU GUYS FILTER ON OUT. THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE, EVERYBODY.
>> YEAH. >> THE HALF TO GO FOLLOW THE BALL ALL THE TIME. THEY THINK THERE'S A ZERO WATER --
INAUDIBLE ] >> THEY'RE JUST BEING AWARE --
>> THAT'S RIGHT. ALL RIGHT, I'M CALLING IT BACK. THAT WAS
[6.9 VOLUNTARY ANNEXATION AGREEMENT - 2124 AMELIA ROAD - RESOLUTION 2024-140 APPROVING THE EXTENSION OF WATER AND WASTEWATER SERVICES OUTSIDE THE CORPORATE LIMITS; ACCEPTING THE VOLUNTARY ANNEXATION PETITION FOR ONE PARCEL CONTAINING APPROXIMATELY 0.32 ACRES OF LAND LOCATED AT 2124 AMELIA ROAD; AUTHORIZING EXECUTION; AND PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE. Synopsis: Authorizes the extension of wastewater services to the property owner identified whose property is located at 2124 Amelia Road, Parcel Number: 00-00-30-0800-0047-0030 and also approves the Voluntary Annexation Petition.]
OUR INFORMAL RECESSES EVERYBODY WALKED OUT THE BACK. WE ARE CONTINUING ON WITH ITEM 6.9. THAT IS THE VOLUNTARY ANNEXATION AGREEMENT FOR 2124 AMELIA ROAD, AND THAT IS GOING TO BE ONE OF OUR CHARTER OFFICERS FOR MS. KELLY GIBSON WILL COME ON DOWN. WELCOME, MS. GIBSON.>> YES. GOOD EVENING. KELLY GIBSON, PLANNING CONSERVATION.
AND TONIGHT, YOU'RE BEING ASKED TO CONSIDER A VOLUNTARY WATER AND WASTEWATER AGREEMENT FOR 0.32 ACRES OF LAND LOCATED JUST OUTSIDE OF THE CITY'S JURISDICTION. THIS PROPERTY WOULD BE RECEIVING ONE OR MORE WASTEWATER SERVICES, OR POSSIBLY BOTH, AS PART OF THE AGREEMENT AT THIS TIME, THIS PROPERTY IS NOT ELIGIBLE FOR ANNEXATION, AND SO IT WOULD BE CHARGED A 25% SURCHARGE IN TOTAL SUCH TIME THAT IT DOES
BECOME ANNEX APPROPRIATE >> EXCELLENT. ANY QUESTIONS FOR
MAKES GIBSON? >> I KNOW THE ANSWER, BUT IT'S ONE BUILDING LOT AND ONE BUILDING LOT ONLY?
>> THAT'S CORRECT, SIR. >> AND NOT SUBDIVIDED.
>> NOT TO MY KNOWLEDGE. >> ALL RIGHT.
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>> TO YOUR EMOTION? >> MOTION TO APPROPRIATE
[6.10 CONSERVATION LAND PURCHASE - NATURES GATE LOT 10- RESOLUTION 2024-141 APPROVING THE PURCHASE OF ONE PARCEL OF VACANT LAND OWNED BY ALI STINE LOWE TOTALING APPROXIMATELY 0.16 ACRES FOR THE PUBLIC PURPOSE OF CONSERVATION OR PASSIVE PARKS; AUTHORIZING EXECUTION; AND PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE.Synopsis: Approves the purchase of 0.16 acres of land in Natures Gate subdivision from Ali Stine Lowe for $44,594 for conservation purposes.]
>> SECOND. MOTION IN A SECOND. ANY DISCUSSION? SEEING NONE, CITY CLERK, PLEASE CALL THE BOAT.
>> COMMISSIONER ANTUN? >> VICE-MAYOR STURGES?
>> AYE. >> COMMISSIONER AYSCUE?
>> AYE. >> CONSERVATION LAND PURCHASE FOR NATURE'S GATE LOT 10. MS. GIBSON?
>> YES, GOOD EVENING AGAIN. KELLY GIBSON, PLANNING AND CONSERVATION, AND THIS EVENING, I PRESENT THE OPPORTUNITY FOR YOU TO CONSIDER PURCHASE OF .16 ACRES OF LAND. A SMALL PIECE OF PROPERTY IN THE NATURE'S GATE SUBDIVISION HAS BEEN CONTROVERSIAL FOR MANY YEARS. UNFORTUNATELY, THIS PROPERTY IS NOT SOMETHING THAT HAS A LOT OF DEVELOPMENT POTENTIAL TIED TO IT. THIS ALEASE DIED HAS PRESENTED AN OFFER FOR PURCHASE TO RECUPERATE THE EXPENSES TO DATE, AND THAT IS IN THE AMOUNT OF $44,594. WE HAVE EVALUATED THE SITE, WALKED IT, LOOK AT THE POTENTIAL FOR IT. IT HAS PREDOMINANTLY WETLANDS ON THE PROPERTY, AND THAT COUPLED WITH THE WETLAND BUFFER REQUIREMENT MAKES THAT PROPERTY VIRTUALLY NOT BUILDABLE, AND CERTAINLY NOT CONSISTENT WITH THE DEVELOPED CHARACTER OF THAT SAME NEIGHBORHOOD. SO STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL OF THE PURCHASE. THIS PURCHASE WOULD LEAVE A RESULTING AMOUNT OF JUST OVER $39,000 IN THE CONSERVATION LAND TRUST, AND TO DATE WE DO NOT HAVE ANY ADDITIONAL DOLLARS TO FUND FUTURE POSITIONS BEYOND THAT $39,000.
>> NOTED. OKAY. DO I HEAR ANY QUESTIONS FOR MS. GIBSON?
>> WE'RE GOING TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THAT, MOVING BACK TO
CONSERVATION -- >> YES. ONCE WE'RE ABLE TO
CLOSE ON THE PROPERTY. >> I DO ALSO HAVE A QUESTION.
SO THIS PURCHASE WILL BRING OUR TOTAL OF LAND ADDED TO CONSERVATION BY THIS COMMISSION, SO THIS, FIVE, IN THE LAST TWO, WITHIN THE LAST TWO YEARS, WE HAVE ADDED A TOTAL OF NOW ABOUT SEVEN ACRES OF CONSERVATION, IS THAT
CORRECT? >> THAT IS MY UNDERSTANDING.
>> GREAT NEWS. OKAY, SO WITH THAT, WE HEAR A MOTION.
>> MOTION TO APPROVE. >> SECOND.
>> YOUR EMOTION IN A SECOND. ANY DISCUSSION?
>> I'D JUST LIKE TO POINT OUT THAT WE NEED TO COME UP WITH A WAY, AND IT'S NOT IN THE CURRENT BUDGET, WHERE WE WILL BE PUTTING MORE MONEY INTO THE LAND CONSERVATION FUND. AND THE REASON FOR THAT IS THAT THERE ARE A NUMBER OF LOTS OUT THERE THAT ARE NOT BUILDABLE THAT THE CITY IS GOING TO HAVE TO BUY AT SOME POINT, GOING FORWARD INTO THE FUTURE. JUST AS WE HAD TO BUY THIS LOT, BECAUSE IT'S NOT BUILDABLE. OTHERWISE, FOR -- YEAH, YOU KNOW. SO I THINK THAT WHAT I WOULD DO MIGHT BE TO CONSIDER THAT, SINCE WE'RE NOW GOING TO GET $1000 A YEAR FROM OPEN AND $137,000 FOR PAYOFF TO, FUTURE CONSIDER PUTTING THAT MONEY AS A, A FUNDING, DEDICATED FUNDING SOURCE OF CONSERVATION. THAT WOULD HELP, WOULD EMBRACE THAT IDEA.
>> INTERESTING. THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER ROSS. SO DID WE HAVE A MOTION THAT A SECOND ALREADY?
>> YES SIR. >> WE DID. SO LET'S GO AHEAD
[6.11 PROPOSAL APPROVAL - HUBBARD CONSTRUCTION COMPANY - RESOLUTION 2024- 142 APPROVING A PROPOSAL FROM ATLANTIC COAST ASPHALT, A DIVISION OF HUBBARD CONSTRUCTION COMPANY, IN AN AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED $151,800.73 FOR PHASE 3 OF THE RESURFACING OF CITY STREETS; AUTHORIZING EXECUTION; AND PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE. Synopsis: Approves the proposal from Hubbard Construction Company for Phase 3 of the resurfacing of City streets as detailed in the Streets Resurfacing Plan in an amount not to exceed $151,800.73.]
AND CALL THE BOAT. >> COMMISSIONER ANTUN?
>> YES. >> VICE-MAYOR STURGES?
>> YES. >> COMMISSIONER AYSCUE?
>> YES. THAT PASSES 5-0. ITEM 6.11. POSTAL APPROVAL FOR HUBBARD CONSTRUCTION COMPANY. ONCE AGAIN, MR. WILSON.
>> THANK YOU, MAYOR. RESOLUTION 2024 142 IS A PROPOSAL FROM HUBBARD FOR OUR THIRD PHASE OF STREET RESURFACING WITHIN THE CITY. THE TWO PRIORITY PROJECTS WILL BE NORTH SEVENTH STREET. I REMEMBER WE WERE GOING TO WIDEN NORTH SEVENTH STREET, CONVERTED TO ONE-WAY, ADD ON STREET PARKING, AND ALSO CONTINUING THE PAVING ON BEACH STREET BETWEEN 10TH AND EIGHTH STREET.
STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL. >> ANY QUESTIONS , OR DO I HEAR
A MOTION? >> MOVED TO APPROVE.
>> SECOND. >> A MOTION AND A SECOND. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION ON THIS? COMMISSIONER ROSS? VICE MAYOR
STURGES? SORRY. >> THANK YOU, MAYOR, THAT'S ALL RIGHT. THIS SOUNDS LIKE WE'RE ADDING MORE DOWNTOWN SPOTS , LIKE PARKING SPOTS TO THE DOWNTOWN AREA. IS THAT WHAT
I'M HEARING? >> THAT IS CORRECT.
>> OKAY. I JUST WANT TO POINT THAT OUT. WE'RE ADDING HOW
MANY SPACES? >> CURRENT DESIGN IS ABOUT 25
TO 30 SPACES. >> 25 TO 30 MORE PARKING SPACES DOWNTOWN. I'M GLAD TO HEAR IT. WE HEAR ALL KIND OF COMPLAINTS ABOUT PARKING, AND NOT HAVING ANY PARKING, SO IT SEEMS LIKE WE'RE ADDING 25 TO 30. THANK YOU.
>> EXCELLENT. GOOD POINTING THAT OUT. THANK YOU. OKAY, SO WITH THAT, LET'S GO AHEAD AND CALL THE BOAT.
[6.12 PROPOSAL APPROVAL - JAX UTILITIES MANAGEMENT, INC. - RESOLUTION 2024-143 APPROVING THE PROPOSAL FROM JAX UTILITIES MANAGEMENT, INC, FOR THE ALACHUA STREET SIDEWALKS AND CURBING, IN AN AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED $80,677.80; AUTHORIZING EXECUTION; AND PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE. Synopsis: Approves the proposal from Jax Utilities Management, Inc. for the Alachua Street Project for sidewalks and curbing in an amount not to exceed $80,677.80.]
>> COMMISSIONER ANTUN? >> YES.
>> VICE-MAYOR STURGES? >> YES.
>> COMMISSIONER AYSCUE? >> YES.
>> MAYOR BEAN? >> YES. THAT PASSES 5-0. JAX UTILITIES MANAGEMENT INC. PROPOSAL APPROVAL. MR. WILSON?
>> THANK YOU, MAYOR BRITT RESOLUTION 2024-143 IS A PROPOSAL FROM JAX UTILITIES MANAGEMENT . THEY PERFORM OUR CONCRETE, SIDEWALK GUTTER WORK, CURBING WORK. AND THIS IS FOR THE SIDEWALK AND CURBING THAT'LL BE GOING AT THE WEST -- ONCE WE OPEN THAT ROAD. STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL.
>> ANY QUESTIONS FOR MR. --? >> AND WE HEAR A MOTION?
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>> MOVED TO APPROVE. >> SECOND.
>> I HEAR A MOTION AND A SECOND. ANY DISCUSSION? SEEING
NONE, PLEASE CALL THE ROLL. >>
>> COMMISSIONER AYSCUE? >> YES.
>> VICE-MAYOR STURGES? >> YES.
>> COMMISSIONER ANTUN? >> YES.
>> MAYOR BEAN? >> AND YES. THAT PASSES 5-0.
6.14, CHANGE ORDER APPROVAL AND BUDGET TRANSFER FOR
[6.13 PROPOSAL APPROVAL - JAX UTILITIES MANAGEMENT, INC. - RESOLUTION 2024-144 APPROVING THE PROPOSAL FROM JAX UTILITIES MANAGEMENT, INC, FOR THE BEECH STREET TRAILS PROJECT FOR SIDEWALKS AND CURBING IN AN AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED $85,293.75; AUTHORIZING EXECUTION; AND PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE. Synopsis: Approves the proposal from Jax Utilities Management, Inc., for the Beech Street Trails Project for sidewalks and curbing, in an amount not to exceed $92,954.14.]
TECHNOLOGIES. >> YOU SKIP ONE?
>> 613. I DID SKIP ONE. APOLOGIES, EVERYBODY. PROPOSAL APPROVAL FOR JAX UTILITIES MANAGEMENT.
>> RESOLUTION 2024-144, EASY TO SKIP, IT'S THE SAME, SAME VENDOR, SAME AS THE LAST. YOU WERE, MAYOR. THE, SO THIS IS FOR A PROPOSAL FROM JAX UTILITIES MANAGEMENT FOR A SIDEWALK, BEECH STREET TRAIL AND CURBING ALONG THE PORTION OF BEECH STREET BETWEEN 10TH AND EIGHTH STREET. LOOKING TO CLEAN UP THE AREA THERE BETWEEN BEECH STREET GRILL. STAFF
RECOMMENDS APPROVAL. >> DO I HEAR A MOTION?
>> SECOND. >> ON YOUR EMOTION IN A SECOND.
ANY COMMISSIONER DISCUSSION ON THIS? SEEING NONE, CITY CLERK,
PLEASE CALL THE ROLL. >> COMMISSIONER ANTUN?
[Items 6.14 & 6.15]
>> YES. >> VICE-MAYOR STURGES?
>> YES. >> COMMISSIONER AYSCUE?
>> AND YES. THAT PASSES 5-0. SO NOW WE CAN GO TO 6.14, WHICH IS THE CHANGE ORDER APPROVAL FOR INSITUFORM TECHNOLOGIES LLC.
>> GOOD EVENING, COMMISSIONERS, MAYOR. I'M, BOTH ITEM 6.14 AND 6.15 ARE RELATED TO THE, THE TWO RESOLUTIONS AND PURCHASE ORDERS THAT WERE ISSUED TO INSITUFORM FOR THE LINING OF OUR DOWNTOWN SEWER LEVELS. -- INSPECTION OF ALL THE SERVICES.
THAT RESULTED IN SOME, SOME CHANGES, SOME SERVICES WERE NO LONGER NEEDED, WERE GOING TO BE ABANDONED. OTHERS HAVE CHANGES IN DIAMETER THAT NEED TO BE ACCOMMODATED WITH CUSTOM LINERS, SO THAT COST A LITTLE BIT OF A PRICE INCREASE. SO THIS IS NOT A CHANGE IN SCOPE, BUT MORE OF A, A DETAILED BUDGET NOW THAT WE HAVE THE FULL PICTURE OF THE, THE PROCESS ON THESE. SO THE VENDOR IS READY TO GO WITH THE, THE WORK ON APPROVAL OF THESE CHANGE ORDERS. STAFF RECOMMENDS
APPROVAL. >> EXCELLENT. THANK YOU. ANY
QUESTIONS? >> PLEASE MAKE THE MOTION
SEPARATELY ON THE -- >> WE'LL MAKE TWO SEPARATE, WE'RE GOING TO MAKE TWO SEPARATE MOTIONS ON THIS, BUT THIS IS MOTION ONE FOR 6.14 SPECIFICALLY. DO I HEAR A
MOTION ON THAT? >> MOVED TO APPROPRIATE
>> SECOND. >> ANY DISCUSSION ON 6.14 SPECIFICALLY? SEEING NONE, CITY CLERK, PLEASE CALL THE ROLL.
>> COMMISSIONER ANTUN? >> YES.
>> VICE-MAYOR STURGES? >> YES.
>> COMMISSIONER AYSCUE? >> YES.
>> MAYOR BEAN? >> AND YES. 6.15, DO I HEAR A
MOTION ON THAT? >> MOVED TO APPROVE.
>> SECOND. >> I HEAR A MOTION AND A SECOND ON 6.15. ANY DISCUSSION ON 6.15? SEEING NONE, CITY CLERK,
[7.1 MARINA ADVISORY BOARD - One appointment (David Patton)]
>> COMMISSIONER AYSCUE? >> YES.
>> VICE-MAYOR STURGES? >> YES.
>> COMMISSIONER ANTUN? >> YES.
>> MAYOR BEAN? >> AND YES. THAT PASSES 5-0.
7.1, MARINA ADVISORY BOARD. WE HAVE ONE APPOINTMENT TO MAKE
TONIGHT. DO I HEAR A MOTION? >> MAKE A MOTION TO APPOINT DAVID PATTON TO THE MARINA ADVISORY BOARD.
>> SECOND. >> WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND ON MR. PATTON. ANY DISCUSSION ON MR. PATTON?
>> I SPOKE WITH MR. PATTON THIS AFTERNOON. I THINK HE'LL MAKE
A FINE ADDITION TO THE BOARD. >> THANK YOU, MR. ROSS, AND I WOULD WELCOME, AND I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU TO ANYBODY WHO'S WILLING TO SERVE ON ONE OF OUR BOARDS. WE APPRECIATE ALL THE WORK THAT THEY DO FOR OUR CITY. AND MR. PATTON, FOR JOINING US AUTHORITY. PLEASE CALL THE ROLL.
[8. PUBLIC COMMENT REGARDING ITEMS NOT ON THE AGENDA]
>> COMMISSIONER ANTUN? >> YES.
>> VICE-MAYOR STURGES? >> YES.
>> COMMISSIONER AYSCUE? >> YES.
>> MAYOR BEAN? >> AND YES. THAT PASSES 5-0.
PUBLIC COMMENT FOR NON-AGENDA ITEMS. LET'S INVITE UP NOW MISSED SANDY CARROT. WELCOME, MS. GARRETT.
>> THANK YOU. SANDY CARROT, 1255 FOREST DRIVE, FERNANDINA.
ACTUALLY, AMELIA CITY. I'M BRINGING UP THE AMENDED RULES OF PROCEDURE, WHICH I RECEIVED A COPY OF THEM TODAY THROUGH THE CLERK'S OFFICE, AND I WANT A CLARIFICATION ON THE NEW PROCESS FOR PUTTING AN AGENDA ITEM ON A REGULAR COMMISSION MEETING. I HAVE TWO DIFFERENT PIECES OF INFORMATION IN THE NEWLY AMENDED RULES. IT SAYS, TWO COMMISSIONERS INDEPENDENTLY
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REQUESTING TO THE CITY MANAGER, THE CITY CLERK THAT AN ITEM BE PLACED FOR CONSIDERATION. WHAT CAUSED THAT ITEM TO BE PLACED ON THE NEXT AVAILABLE AGENDA. AND THE THIRD OPTION WAS AN ITEM ON A WORKSHOP AGENDA FOR COMMISSION DISCUSSION, MAY BE PLACED ON A FUTURE REGULAR AGENDA, IF AT LEAST TWO COMMISSIONERS WANT TO MOVE THE ITEM FORWARD. BUT I HAD ALSO EARLIER RECEIVED SOME INFORMATION THAT IT REQUIRED THREE COMMISSIONERS TO ENDORSE AN ITEM AT A WORKSHOP TO MOVE IT TO A REGULAR COMMISSION MEETING AGENDA. SO I JUST WANT TO CLARIFY, IS IT TWO OR IS IT THREE? TO MOVE A WORKSHOP AGENDA ITEM TO AN AGENDA ITEM ON A REGULAR COMMISSION MEETING. DOES IT REQUIRE TWO COMMISSIONERS OR THREE?>> COMMISSIONER AYSCUE, WOULD YOU?
>> WELL, I MEAN, SO YES, BECAUSE I BROUGHT IT FORWARD TO THE COMMISSION. THE DISCUSSION THAT WE HAD ONE SO THAT THERE WAS TWO COMMISSIONERS THAT WISHED TO BRING AN ITEM FORWARD AND TO PLACE IT ON THE AGENDA, THAT'S HOW IT WOULD WORK.
THERE WAS DISCUSSIONS THAT IT WOULD TAKE A MAJORITY , MEANING THREE, TO MOVE IT OUT OF A WORKSHOP. HOWEVER, THAT JUST SIMPLY WOULDN'T MAKE SENSE, BECAUSE AT THE END OF THE MEETING , TWO COMMISSIONERS DECIDED THEY WANTED TO PUT IT ON THE AGENDA, THEY WOULD PUT IT ON THE AGENDA, AND THAT'S HOW IT WOULD WORK. SO IT DIDN'T MAKE SENSE TO HAVE A MAJORITY TRY TO MOVE IT OUT OF THE WORKSHOP, AND IT JUST, AT LEAST THE WAY THAT I HAD IT IN MIND -- MY MEMORY, WAS THAT IT TAKES TWO OUT OF A WORKSHOP TO PUT IT ON AN AGENDA.
>> THAT'S AN EXCELLENT -- THANK YOU. MS. GARRETT?
>> SO THAT'S GOOD THAT'S CLARIFIED. IT'S UNFORTUNATE THAT, I UNDERSTAND ONE COMMISSIONER CAN PUT AN ITEM ON THE WORKSHOP AGENDA, BUT IT'S UNFORTUNATE THAT YOU ARE NOW REQUIRING TWO TO, TO PUT A REGULAR AGENDA ITEM ON THE WORKSHOP. BECAUSE A MAJORITY RULE , MINORITY RIGHTS ARE NOT BEING PROTECTED HERE. IF A CONSTITUENT COMES TO ONE OF THEIR COMMISSIONERS THAT ELECTED THEM AND ASKED THEM TO PUT AN ITEM OF CONCERN ON THE AGENDA, THEY WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO DO SO. THAT COMMISSIONER CAN CERTAINLY ASK TO PUT IT ON, BUT THE WAY YOU'VE NEWLY CONSTRUCTED THE RULES, IT'LL TAKE TWO INDEPENDENT COMMISSIONERS TO, TO MOVE THAT RULE TO A REGULAR AGENDA, AND IT WILL BASICALLY TAKE TWO. SO THAT, THAT IS NOT GOING TO GIVE EVERYONE THE RIGHT TO HAVE AN
AGENDA ITEM HEARD. >> THANK YOU, MS. GARRETT.
>> DO I GET MORE TIME, SINCE YOU GUYS TOOK SOME OF MY TIME?
>> NO, MA'AM. YOU'VE USED YOUR TIME. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
APPRECIATE THAT. LET COMMISSIONER AYSCUE RESPOND. GO
AHEAD. >> SO YES. I MEAN, FOR THE PUBLIC'S, YOU KNOW, INFORMATION, ONE COMMISSIONER CAN BRING SOMETHING TO FORWARD TO A WORKSHOP, AND SINCE WE ALSO DECIDED THAT EVERY WORKSHOP THAT WE HAVE, THE FIRST WORKSHOP WE HAVE, THERE WILL BE AT LEAST 15 MINUTES OF PUBLIC COMMENT, IF YOU HAVE ONE COMMISSIONER BRINGS IT FORWARD, IF THERE'S TWO THAT DECIDE THAT THEY WANT TO, TO PUT IT ON THE AGENDA, THEN IT'S DONE. BUT THERE WILL STILL BE PUBLIC COMMENT ON THAT ONE PARTICULAR THING THAT COMES IN FRONT OF THE WORKSHOP. SO IT'S, IT'S NO DIFFERENT. IT'S JUST, IF THERE'S NOT AT LEAST, AT LEAST ANOTHER ONE THAT WANTS TO PUT IT ON THE AGENDA, THERE'S NO SENSE OF MOVING IT FORWARD. YOU ONLY HAVE ONE THAT BRINGS IT FORTH TO A WORKSHOP, AND ALL FOUR SAY ABSOLUTELY NOT, THERE WILL STILL BE PUBLIC COMMENT ON IT, BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT WE DECIDED. WE DECIDED THAT THERE WOULD BE 15 MINUTES OF PUBLIC COMMENT AT THE END OF A WORKSHOP. SO THERE WILL STILL BE THE OPPORTUNITY FOR WHOEVER WANTED TO BRING IT FORWARD, OR ASK THE COMMISSIONER TO BRING IT FORWARD IN THE WORKSHOP, WHICH I'VE DONE BEFORE, COULD COME UP AND AT LEAST SAY, THIS IS WHY I WANTED IT BROUGHT FORWARD. IF THE OTHER FOUR SAY ABSOLUTELY NOT, THERE IS REALLY NO SENSE IN GOING FORWARD AT THAT POINT. THE MINORITY STILL GOT TO BE HEARD IN A WORKSHOP, THE MINORITY STILL HAD TO HAVE, STILL WAS ABLE TO RECEIVE THE FEEDBACK, AND GIVE, AND GIVE PUBLIC COMMENT AT THAT WORKSHOP, WHICH IS EXACTLY WHAT THE MAYOR SAID. SO THE PROCESS JUST, JUST WENT TO A WORKSHOP FORM, AND NOW WE WON'T MOVE OUT UNLESS THERE'S TWO. AND I, I THINK THAT WAS A PRETTY DECENT PLAN, AND IT WORKS OUT, AND I DON'T, I DON'T SEE ANY ISSUE WITH IT, SO.
>> THANK YOU. APPRECIATE THAT. VICE MAYOR?
>> THANK YOU, MAYOR. ALSO, THERE'S MORE TO THAT. WE CODIFIED THESE RULES. WE'VE GOT OVER IT, I THINK WE BEAT IT UP FOR HOURS. Y'ALL EVEN BEAT IT UP WHEN I WASN'T THERE THAT MEETING. HOWEVER, THERE IS ONE OTHER WAY. IF THAT ONE MINORITY COMMISSIONER CAN CONVINCE THAT CITY MANAGER RIGHT THERE, HE CAN PUT IT ALL ON THE AGENDA AT ANY MOMENT. SO ANY COMMISSIONER CAN CONVINCE THE CITY MANAGER, WHETHER IT'S THE ACTING CITY MANAGER OR THE PERMANENT CITY MANAGER. AND IF THAT'S THE CASE, THEN IT WILL BE PUT ON THE AGENDA. NOW, THREE COMMISSIONERS CAN VOTE IT DOWN, NOT OFF THE AGENDA, BUT WHEN IT
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GETS TALKED ABOUT, THEY CAN PUT IT DOWN, BUT IT WILL BE ON THE AGENDA BASED ON -- SO THERE'S ONLY ONE PERSON OTHER THAN ONE COMMISSIONER. YOU CAN EITHER CHOOSE TO TALK TO THE CITY MANAGER, AND HAVE HIM PUT IT ON, AND HE WILL, IF HE WANTS TO, BASED ON IF HE THINKS THERE'S ENOUGH COMMISSIONERS THAT WANT TO HEAR IT. OR THE MAYOR CAN PUT IT ON. AND THAT'S REALLY ARE, THERE'S YOUR MINORITIES. BUT THAT GIVES THE MINORITY AN OPTION. THANK YOU.>> OKAY, MR. JACK. >> JACK EMBER, 1003 BROOME STREET, FERNANDINA BEACH, FLORIDA. I WANT TO THANK THE CITY COMMISSIONERS THAT SUBMITTED THEIR PICTURES IN THE PAPER DURING AN INSERT ABOUT GIVING YOURSELF AN OPPORTUNITY TO MAKE A STATEMENT AND ANSWER QUESTIONS. DURING THE '60S, THERE WAS A LOT OF POETRY AND DISCUSSION ABOUT THE SOUNDS OF SILENCE, AND FOR THOSE PEOPLE THAT EITHER DIDN'T PUT A, A STATEMENT FORWARD FOR THE ELECTION, WHICH IS THEIR RIGHT, AND, AS YOU POINTED OUT ALSO, THAT MANY COMMISSIONERS DON'T HAVE TO ANSWER QUESTIONS. SO A LOT OF YOU JUST LEFT THAT BLANK. AND I THINK YOU CAN TELL AN AWFUL LOT ABOUT A PERSON AND THEIR CHARACTER, ABOUT WHAT THEY DON'T SAY. ALONG THOSE LINES, WITH THE FERNANDINA ETHANOL, OR NO ETHANOL FERNANDINA SITUATION, I'M STILL SURPRISED, ALTHOUGH NOT AS MUCH, BECAUSE I, I RECENTLY GATHERED AN EXPLANATION ABOUT IT, AS TO WHY THE CITY COMMISSION DOESN'T ENGAGE IN ANY KIND OF INFORMATION SHARING THAT THEY KNOW OF. MR. STURGES SAYS THAT IT'S INAPPROPRIATE, AND HE USES MANY REALLY UNRELATED AND INAPPROPRIATE DESCRIPTIONS AS TO WHY, THAT YOU'RE NOT SUPPOSED TO TALK ABOUT SOMETHING BEFORE A PETITION IS ACTUALLY APPLIED FOR. AND WHAT THE CITY ENCOUNTERS IS DISCUSSION BEING HAPPENED AT THE 11TH HOUR, OR THE 12TH HOUR, WHEN YOU GUYS HAVE ALREADY MADE UP YOUR MIND.
AND EVERYTHING'S BEEN DISCUSSED THROUGH CORPORATE, ET CETERA, AND IT'S TOO LATE. SO FROM THE OXBOW INCIDENT, BY WALTER VAN TOBER CLARK, A VERY FAMOUS BOOK, THERE IS A SHORT PASSAGE THAT KIND OF EXPLAINS WHAT I PERCEIVE IS A CULTURE WITHIN THIS COMMISSION. AND I QUOTE, WE'RE DOING IT BECAUSE WE'RE IN THE PACK , BECAUSE WE'RE AFRAID NOT TO BE IN A PACK. WE DON'T DARE SHOW OUR PACK WEAKNESS. WE DON'T DARE
RESIST THE PACK. THANK YOU. >> ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU, MR. EMBER. WELCOME, MR. PAUL LORING. WELCOME, MR. LORING.
>> HEY, GOOD EVENING, COMMISSIONERS. PAUL LORING, SOUTH 11TH STREET, FERNANDINA BEACH, FLORIDA. THE MONTH OF JULY, I GOT CAUGHT UP IN A LOT OF ACTIVITY. I HAD A, A DEATH IN THE FAMILY, AND I WAS OUT ON THE OCEAN A LOT TRAINING IN ROWING, SO I NEVER GOT THE OPPORTUNITY TO COME AND CONTINUE THE FOLLOW-UP DISCUSSION ABOUT PUBLIC COMMENTS, YOU KNOW, THAT AREN'T, THAT AREN'T ON THE AGENDA. I STILL AM IN HOPE . ACTUALLY, I THINK, MS. CAROLINE, LIKE, EVEN A YEAR AGO, WHEN I WAS OUT ON THE OCEAN ROWING TO HAWAII, I ACTUALLY CUT A VIDEO. I'M NOT SURE IF IT MADE IT BACK, AND IF IT MADE IT TO THE CITY, BUT IT WAS EXACTLY ON THAT TOPIC. I CAN FORWARD IT TO YOU ALL.
>> IS PLAYED, IT PLAYED. >> NO, HE DID PLAY, OKAY, OKAY.
YEAH, YEAH, I'M PRETTY PASSIONATE ABOUT IT. I FEEL LIKE, WITH YOUR LEADERSHIP, YOU WILL HAVE ANY KIND OF DIRECTION THAT YOU WANT TO SET THE TONE FOR THE MEETINGS, AND MOST CERTAINLY YOU HAVE. IN THE FUTURE HERE THAT YOU JUST PUT IN THE WORKSHOP, WHERE THERE WAS A, YOU KNOW, THE OPPORTUNITY FOR PUBLIC COMMENT. THE CITIZENS SHOULD ALWAYS BE FIRST, I BELIEVE. THAT'S JUST GENERALLY WHAT I BELIEVE. I WILL TELL YOU, AS A CITIZEN OF THIS COMMUNITY, NOT ONLY DO I EMBARK ON THE LISTENING SKILLS OF THOSE OF YOU THAT ARE UP HERE ON THE COMMISSION, I, IN PART, VERY DEARLY, MY LISTENING
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SKILLS ON THOSE CITIZENS THAT COME UP TO THIS PODIUM AND SPEAK. I LEARNED A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT FROM THE CITIZENS OF OUR COMMUNITIES. THINGS THAT I DIDN'T EVEN, THAT I DIDN'T EVEN THINK OF. NOT THINGS THAT ALWAYS HAVE TO TRIGGER TO COME UP HERE TO SPEAK ABOUT, BUT JUST THINGS TO THINK ABOUT.WOW. THAT'S, THAT'S PRETTY INTERESTING. I NEVER -- AND IT DOES SWAY ME, YOU KNOW? LIKE, OH, I DIDN'T EVEN THINK OF THAT. THAT IS A REALLY GOOD IDEA. AND IT CHANGES MY POSITION. SO I STILL HOPE THAT THERE'S A TIME THAT YOU ALL CAN BE JUST A LITTLE BIT MORE FLEXIBLE, THINK OF THE PEOPLE THAT ARE WORKING LONG DAYS AT WORK DO WANT TO COME TO THE COMMISSIONER MEETING TO SPEAK, BUT SOMETIMES JUST DON'T HAVE THE TIME TO WAIT THROUGH, YOU KNOW, ALL THE AGENDA ITEMS. I DO, BUT I THINK I'M IN THE, THE LOWER PART OF THAT, SO I HOPE AT SOME POINT, YOU DO CHANGE IT BACK. AND WILL YOU JUST BECOME FLEXIBLE? IF YOU THINK IT'S GOING TO TAKE A LOT OF THE MEETING TIME, THEN SWITCH IT AND HAVE IT AT THE END. BUT IF YOU THINK YOU'RE ONLY GOING TO HAVE THREE OR FOUR SPEAKERS, GIVE THOSE CITIZENS THE OPPORTUNITY TO COME UP, SPEAK, GO HOME, BE WITH THEIR FAMILY. THANK YOU.
>> ESTHER LORING, THANK YOU FOR BEING WITH US TONIGHT. THAT ALL THE REQUESTS I HAD TO SPEAK. IS THERE ANYONE ELSE IN THE ROOM THAT WISHES TO TALK? YOU HAD A -- COME ON DOWN, MS. KOBE, PLEASE. SORRY, MUST'VE MISSED THAT.
>> SORRY, I KNOW IT GETS A LOT ON THERE.
>> ALL GOOD, YEAH. >> I WAS TRYING TO SAVE A TREE.
>> EITHER WAY, THANK YOU. >> SHEILA COKIE, 1553 INDIGO STREET, FERNANDINA BEACH. SO LAST WEEK, I HAD, WELL, ABOUT THREE WEEKS AGO, I SIGNED UP TO BE A FLY AM AMBASSADOR FOR THE BIOETHANOL PLANT THAT THEY ARE INTENDING TO BUILD, AND I SAY INTENDING. THEY ARE MOVING FORWARD WITH THIS. I LEARNED A LOT FROM THE GENTLEMAN THAT I SPOKE WITH FOR OVER AN HOUR. I BROUGHT UP TO HIM ONE OF MY CONCERNS IS THE SAFETY, ABOUT WHAT HAPPENS AT THIS PLANT, ADDING ADDITIONAL RISK TO OUR CITY, ESPECIALLY SINCE WE ARE NO LONGER JUST A MILLTOWN LIKE WE HAD STARTED AT ONE POINT, AND NOW WE SERVE 1.6 MILLION TOURISTS? SO HE ASSURED ME THAT A BLAST FROM THE ETHANOL PLANT WOULD ONLY, CAN YOU, I'D LOVE TO JUST TAKE A POLL. HOW FAR OF A BLAST YOU THINK AN ETHANOL EXPLOSION MIGHT REACH?
>> DEPENDS ON HOW MUCH ETHANOL IS THERE.
>> JUST GUESS, JUST RANDOM. ANYBODY? I, I THOUGHT HALF A MILE, GUESSING THAT AN IMPACT FOR HALF A MILE. HE'S TELLING ME THAT IT'S 150 YARDS. SO 450 FEET. THAT, THAT WOULD ONLY OCCUR ON THE RIGHT-HAND PROPERTY, THAT IT WOULD NOT EXCEED THAT. ALTHOUGH HE COULDN'T GIVE ME THE SPECIFIC DATA ABOUT THAT. HE GAVE ME A LOT OF DATA ABOUT HOW THE PROCESS WORKS. AND ESSENTIALLY, THE PRODUCT THAT THEY MAKE FROM THE WOOD PULP GETS EXTRACTED TO MAKE THE ACETATE, AND, FORGIVE ME, BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW FULLY THE TECHNICAL TERMS. AND THEN, SO THEY USE WHAT THEY USE FOR THE ACETATE, AND THEN THEY SEND A LIQUID VERSION WITH SOME OTHER FIBERS AND GAIT OVER TO LICK NO TECH TO EXTRACT WHAT THEY EXTRACT, AND THEN THEY SEND IT BACK. AND CURRENTLY, THEY EXTRACT THE ETHANOL FROM THAT, AND THEY CURRENTLY BURN IT OFF, CORRECT? SO CURRENTLY, RYAM PRODUCES ALL OF THE ENERGY THAT THEY NEED TO RUN THEIR PLANT FROM THIS ETHANOL. AND IF THEY NOW TANK OUT THE ETHANOL WITH THIS ETHANOL PLANT, THEY WOULD LOSE 20% OF THAT ENERGY TO RUN THEIR FACILITIES. SO WHAT THEY WANT TO DO IS RETROFIT THE EXISTING PLANT TO MAKE IT MORE ENERGY EFFICIENT, TO MAKE UP FOR THAT 20% DEFICIT. AND TRUCK OFF THE ETHANOL . SO I GOT A LOT OF STATISTICS, A LOT OF NUMBERS ABOUT ALL OF THAT STUFF, AND ABOUT HOW MUCH THIS FACILITY WOULD COST. BUT ON THE QUESTION I ASKED WAS, HOW MUCH MONEY ARE YOU GUYS GOING TO MAKE OFFICE? THAT WAS AN UNKNOWN. NOW, I DON'T THINK THAT'S TRUE. I THINK THEY KNOW EXACTLY HOW MUCH MONEY THEY STAND TO MAKE WITH THIS PROJECT, WHY THEY WANTED, AND WHY THEY WILL BE AT THE CITY BY THE END OF THE YEAR ASKING FOR A BUILDING PERMIT. AND I FIND IT DERELICT AT THIS COMMISSION TO HAVE NOT EVEN ASKED A QUESTION OR HAD THEM
HERE. THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU, MS. KOBE. ALL
[9. CITY MANAGER REPORTS]
RIGHT, ANYONE ELSE WISH TO SPEAK TONIGHT? ALL RIGHT.MOVING ON DOWN TO OUR CITY MANAGER REPORT.
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>> THANK YOU, MAYOR. ON THE CITY MANAGER SEARCH, THE APPLICATION WINDOW CLOSED JULY 31ST. THE RECRUITING FIRM CONFIRMED 45 APPLICANTS, AND OVER THE NEXT COUPLE WEEKS, THEY'LL BE VETTING THOSE APPLICANT HAVE APPLIED, WE'LL PROVIDE YOU ALL A SHORTLIST NO LATER THAN AUGUST 14TH. WE WERE FORTUNATE TO BE LARGELY SPARED BY TROPICAL STORM, HURRICANE, TROPICAL STORM DEBBIE. WE'RE STILL ASSESSING DAMAGE. WE HAD ABOUT FOUR TREES, WE HAD FOUR TREES COME DOWN , LIGHT FLOODING IN SOME AREAS, AND A LITTLE BIT OF DEBRIS FALLOUT.
WE EXPECT INCREASE YARD DEBRIS OVER THE NEXT COUPLE WEEKS, BUT OVERALL, WE, WE'RE THANKFUL FOR THAT. THE GRAND OPENING FOR THE FIRE STATION IS SCHEDULED FOR AUGUST 31ST. PLEASE SAVE THE DATE ON YOUR CALENDARS, AND AS WE GET CLOSER, WE'LL ANNOUNCE EXACTLY WHAT THOSE PLANS ARE. I'D LIKE TO APPLAUD STAFF FOR HANGING AROUND TONIGHT AND DOING THE MEETING.
THERE'S A LOT OF THEM HERE TONIGHT, AND APPRECIATE THEIR EFFORTS. I WANT TO APPLAUD MS. BARBARA FRENCH. SHE IS NOT HERE TONIGHT, BUT WHAT SHE HAS DONE IS COMPLETED 41 YEARS OF SERVICE WITH THE CITY. SHE STARTED WITH -- SHE SPENT A COUPLE DECADES AT THE GOLF COURSE, AND HAVE BEEN WORKING IN FINANCE EVER SINCE. AND FROM THAT, I WANT TO TAG MR. GEORGE, WAS GOING TO GIVE YOU A QUICK NOTE -- AND THAT'S ALL I HAVE.
>> MR. ROSS HAS SOME QUESTIONS.
>> OKAY. >> FORMER HE BROUGHT UP THE FACT THAT APPARENTLY ON THE WEST COAST, INSURANCE COMPANIES ARE NO LONGER, TRYING NOT TO PAY WHEN THERE'S DAMAGES TO MARINAS, AND THEN WITH THEIR SIDING IS A LACK OF MAINTENANCE. AND EVEN WHEN THE RAIN ITSELF HAS KEPT RECORDS.
AND SO THEY'RE, WHAT THEY'RE DOING OUT THERE, WHAT THEY'RE SUGGESTING IS THAT WE MIGHT WANT TO CONSIDER HIRING AN OUTSIDE FIRM TO COME IN AND EXPECT THE MARINA ONCE A YEAR TO COME UP WITH AND MAKE SURE THAT EVERYTHING'S BEING TAKEN CARE OF. AND I WAS WONDERING IF THE COMMISSION WOULD ENDORSE YOU LOOKING INTO THAT AS A POSSIBILITY. ANYBODY HAVE ANY
OBJECTIONS TO THAT? >> WELL, I'D LOVE TO JUST SEE THE NUMBERS. I DON'T WANT TO COMMIT TO SPENDING ANY MONEY RIGHT NOW. IF WE COULD GET A QUOTE ON THAT, I DON'T SEE A
PROBLEM. >> AND THE SECOND THING IS, I'M BRINGING THIS FROM THE CRA COMMITTEE, CRA ADVISORY BOARD, I'M NOT SAYING THAT I'M FOR THIS, BUT THE WAREHOUSE RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET IS FOR SALE, AND EVERYBODY TALKS ABOUT PARKING. SO IF YOU WANT TO BUY THESE PROPERTY TO PUT PARKING ON, IT'S RIGHT THERE, $2.2 MILLION. AND I'M NOT ADVOCATING DOING THAT, BUT IF YOU TRULY WANT TO INCREASE PARKING DOWNTOWN, THEN THAT'S SOMETHING THAT THE CITY COMMISSION COULD DO. AND I WAS WONDERING WHAT OTHER PEOPLE
THOUGHT IS ON THAT. >> I'M NOT READY TONIGHT TO
COMMIT TO BUYING THAT. >> I'M NOT READY TO COMMIT TO
BUYING IT AT ALL. >> THIS IS AN EXPENSIVE PARKING
LOT. >> SO I'M GOING TO TAKE THAT AS A PROBABLE KNOW FOR -- SO -- BUT THE CRA DID RECOMMEND THAT THE CITY BY THAT. AND THANK YOU.
>> MR. GEORGE WITH THE PROJECT UPDATE.
>> A COUPLE THINGS. ON THE MARINA INSPECTIONS , JUST SO YOU KNOW, I'VE DONE INSPECTIONS AFTER EVERY HURRICANE THAT WE'VE HAD SINCE I'VE BEEN HERE, AND -- RUNNING UP AND DOWN THESE -- SO MIGHT NOT NECESSARILY HAVE TO GO GET A CONSULTANT TO DO THAT. JUST PUTTING THAT OUT THERE.
>> IF YOU ARE QUALIFIED -- I WOULD, I WOULD HOPE THAT HE
WOULD BE ABLE TO DO IT. >> YEAH, ABSOLUTELY. WELL,
THANK YOU. >> THERE'S ALSO BEEN SOME MISINFORMATION ABOUT THE CHANNEL REALIGNMENT THAT THE CORE HAS DONE, IT'S BEEN COMPLETED, HAS IT BEEN APPROVED? I SPOKE WITH THE COURT THIS WEEK, BECAUSE THERE WERE SOME QUESTIONS THAT IT HASN'T BEEN APPROVED BY OPERA AND THE PILOTS AND THE COAST GUARD. ALL THAT HAS BEEN DONE.
IT HAS BEEN CHANGED. THE LINEMAN IS SET. SURVEY'S DONE.
THE SOUNDINGS ARE DONE. SO THE CHANNEL HAS MOVED. SO IF WE EVER WANT TO MOVE DOCS NORTHWARD FROM THE MARINA TO CREATE MORE DOCKING SPACE, WE HAD THAT ROOM NOW. BUT THERE IS NO MORE ANGST ABOUT WHETHER THE CHANNEL HAS BEEN MOVED OR NOT.
SO THAT IS A DONE DEAL. >> EXCELLENT.
>> AND THEN THE LAST THING IS, JUST TO GIVE AN UPDATE ON THE BORDER FRONT PARK DESIGN , THEY'RE WRAPPING UP THE FINAL DRAWINGS. WE'RE READY TO GO OUT FOR BUSINESSES, GET THOSE TO US, WHICH WE HOPE IT'S PROBABLY THE MIDDLE OF NEXT WEEK, SO WE'LL BE GOING OUT FOR BIDS ON THE SITE DEVELOPMENT. THE PAVILION IN THE RESTROOM DESIGN ARE STILL UNDERWAY, BUT THEY'RE GETTING CLOSE TOO, SO WE SHOULD BE OUT FOR BIDS MIDDLE TO THE END OF AUGUST.
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>> WELL, HP BE BID SEPARATELY?
>> WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO IS PROBABLY BECAUSE THE MAIN COMPONENT IS A SITE DEVELOPMENT WORK, SO WE WOULD BID THAT OUT TO A SITE CONTRACTOR. AND THEN WE'D, WE'D GO FOR THE TWO
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BUILDINGS WE'D GO GET A STRUCTURAL CONTRACTOR.>> OKAY. >> SO WE'RE MOVING FORWARD
WITH THAT PRETTY QUICKLY. >> ANY QUESTIONS FOR MR. GEORGE? SEEING NONE, THANK YOU, SIR.
>> I HAVE NO REPORTS. THANK YOU.
>> I HAVE A FEW QUESTIONS, IF YOU DON'T MIND.
>> YOU HAVE TWO COMMISSIONERS WITH QUESTIONS. DR. ROSS, YOU
HAVE THE FLOOR. >> I HAVE ACTUALLY FOUR QUESTIONS. THE FIRST IS ON THE INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT ON ALVAREZ, WHICH CAME UP TONIGHT.
>> I SENT, I SENT CHANGES, VERY MINOR CHANGES BACK TO THE
COUNTY. >> AND WHEN, WHEN DO THEY ANTICIPATE ON GIVING US AN ANSWER?
>> I HAVE, I DIDN'T ASK THEM WHEN THEY WOULD GET BACK TO ME WHEN I SENT IT. IT WAS, I THINK, TWO WEEKS AGO. I CAN'T,
I CAN SEND A FOLLOW-UP RATE >> GREAT BRITAIN AND ALSO FOR THE HICKORY STREET LEASE THAT WE TALKED ABOUT TONIGHT, PUTTING ADVANCEMENTS FOR THE KIDS, WHERE DOES THAT STAND?
>> THE, THE LEASE, A NEW LEASE FOR HICKORY PARK, AND AN INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT FOR THE FIELD, FOR THE ADMINISTRATION BUILDING FIELDS FOR THE SCHOOL BOARD. I SAID THAT A COUPLE OF MONTHS AGO, DRAFTS TO THEIR ATTORNEY, MR. STURGES , AND I
HAVEN'T HEARD BACK. >> AND WOULD IT BE POSSIBLE FOR YOU TO FOLLOW UP WITH MR. STIEGLER TO FIND OUT WHERE THAT
>> SO I, ON THAT ISSUE, MR. STEGER, APPARENTLY IT'S SITTING ON HIS DESK, IT'S BEEN SITTING THERE FOR FOUR MONTHS.
I WAS WONDERING IF THE CITY COMMISSION WOULD BE WILLING TO CONSIDER WRITING A LETTER TO THE SCHOOL BOARD. IT'S THE SAME THING FOR THE PRACTICE FIELD, AND I CORRECT? IT'S BEEN SITTING ON MR. STEGER'S DESK NOW FOR ABOUT FOUR MONTHS.
I WAS WONDERING IF WE COULD HAVE THE CITY ATTORNEY WRITE A LETTER TO THE SCHOOL BOARD ASKING THEM IF THEY COULD MOVE THIS ALONG. I MEAN, THIS IS SOMETHING FOR KIDS , AND KIDS GOT NO PLACE TO, TO , TO BE HONEST ABOUT IT, WHEN THEY'RE OUT OF THE HICKORY STREET, AND WE TALKED ABOUT DOING THAT TONIGHT. AND THE SAME THING WITH THE PRACTICE FIELDS.
OBVIOUSLY WE NEED, AND IT'S SITTING ON THEIR ATTORNEY MY SKI DESK, AND I WAS WONDERING IF THE, THE CITY COMMISSION WOULD GO FORWARD AND SEND A LETTER TO THE SCHOOL BOARD
ASKING -- >> I HEAR YOU, COMMISSIONER
ROSS. >> WELL, YEAH, I MEAN, I WAS JUST GOING TO SUGGEST THAT -- I KNOW MR. STEGER PRETTY WELL. I THINK THAT VICE MAYOR KNOWS HIM A LITTLE BIT BETTER. I KNOW THAT THE MAYOR KNOWS HIM AS WELL. I, I, INSTEAD OF SENDING SOMETHING LIKE THAT , IT MAY BE APPROPRIATE FOR ONE OF US JUST
TO REACH OUT TO MR. STEGER -- >> I REACHED OUT TO MR. STEGER ON AT LEAST FIVE OCCASIONS, AND HE DOESN'T RETURN ANY PHONE CALLS. HE RETURNED A PHONE CALL ONCE. MOST OF THE TIME HE DOESN'T RETURN PHONE CALLS. I SENT HIM A NUMBER OF EMAILS, AND I'VE ALSO ASKED THAT HE JUST MOVE IT FORWARD. I ALSO TALKED WITH KATHY BURNS, THE SUPERINTENDENT, WHO WAS ALSO TALKED TO MR. STEGER. AND SHE SAYS THERE'S NOTHING FURTHER SHE CAN DO AS A SCHOOL OARD ATTORNEY, NOT HER ATTORNEY. AND SO I, THIS IS SITTING ON AN ATTORNEY MY SKI DESK FOR THREE MONTHS, FOUR MONTHS. SIMPLE AGREEMENTS. WE AGREED TO MOVE FORWARD ON THIS. I WOULD HOPE THAT WE WOULD -- WHAT'S YOUR PLEASURE ON HOW WE MIGHT MOVE THIS FORWARD?
>> I HEAR YOU, COMMISSIONER ROSS, AND WHAT I'M GOING TO SUGGEST WE DO IS I HEAR COMMISSIONER AYSCUE'S POINT. I DON'T THINK A FORMAL LETTER WILL HELP OUR CASE. WE MET AS BOARDS. WE ALL AGREED THAT THIS WOULD BE A WONDERFUL THING, AND
I BELIEVE THAT STILL STANDS. >> ITEMS ALSO.
>> WE HAVE -- AND MS. COKIE, YOU WERE GOING TO SPEAK ON THIS. THANK YOU. SO I BELIEVE THAT JUST BY CALLING THEM, OR COMMUNICATING TO THEM, WE CAN MAKE THIS HAPPEN. WE DON'T HAVE THE FORMAL LETTER. SO I'M GOING TO SAY NO TO THE FORMAL LETTER, AND WE WILL MAKE CONTACT WITH THEM, AND LET THE
>> AND WHO IS THE WE? >> AND BY WE, I THINK
COMMISSIONER AYSCUE -- >> THAT WOULD BE GREAT.
>> SO WE CAN HAVE A FOLLOW-UP ON THE NEXT MEETING?
>> I'LL -- >> IN TWO WEEKS, LET US KNOW.
>> THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER. I APPRECIATE THAT.
>> AND ONE LAST, ONE LAST CONCERN. IT CAME UP AT THE MARINA ADVISORY BOARD, WHICH I WAS AT, AND THEY WERE UNDER THE IMPRESSION THAT THE CITY IS BEING PAID AT LEASE PAYMENT FROM BRATS. IN MY UNDERSTANDING, THEY HAVEN'T PAID US FOR A YEAR AND A HALF.
>> MAY 2023 WAS OUR LAST PAYMENT.
>> AND WHAT'S THE REASON FOR THAT?
>> THEY'RE CLAIMING A CREDIT, BECAUSE THE STATE PAY RENT BASED UPON THE RENTS THEY RECEIVED, THEY CLAIMED THEY
RECEIVED NO RENT. >> SO THEY RECEIVED NO RENT, SO
WE GET NO RENT. >> RIGHT. 5% OF ZERO IS ZERO.
>> AND WHY ARE THEY GETTING NO RENT?
>> THAT'S, THE LEASE SAYS NONE OF US WROTE. WE GET 5% OF WHAT THEY COLLECT. THEY HAVEN'T COLLECTED ZERO. THAT'S THEIR
EXPLANATION. >> SO WE'RE GETTING, FOR A
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YEAR AND A HALF, WE'VE GOT NO RENT PAYMENTS.>> THAT'S RIGHT. >> AND I ALSO UNDERSTAND THAT THEY'RE DEMANDING THAT WE PAY THEM MONEY FOR LOST BUSINESS?
>> LOST BUSINESS. >> MONEY THAT WE'RE NOT
>> WHERE DOES THAT STAND, THEIR DEMAND?
>> THEIR DEMAND IS WE ARE, ARE GOING BACK AND FORTH, TRYING TO COME UP WITH SOME TYPE OF A SETTLEMENT.
>> OKAY. THANK YOU. >> ALL RIGHT, THANKS, MR. ROSS.
>> NO, THANK YOU. I WAS ABOUT TO PULL THE HANDLE, BUT, YEAH, WE'RE IN A LAWSUIT. WE'RE CURRENTLY IN A LAWSUIT, CORRECT? AN AGREEMENT OF SOME SORT OF LAWSUIT?
>> THEY HAVE THREATENED, YES, THERE'S AN ARBITRATION PROVISION IN THE BRETZ LEASE, WHICH I DON'T THINK ANY OF US ARE UNAWARE THAT IT'S, IT REQUIRES A PANEL OF THREE ARBITRATORS. SO IF WE, IF THEY INVOKE ARBITRATION PROVISION , AND YES, THEY CAN TAKE US TO COURT IF WE REFUSE TO ARBITRATE UNDER THE LEASE. BUT IF WE GO TO ARBITRATION, IT'S WORSE THAN COURT, IN TERMS OF THE FEES.
>> AND NOT ONLY THAT, THE, YOUR OPINION, FROM AN OUTSIDE SOURCE, TELL ME ABOUT YOUR OPINION FROM AN OUTSIDE SOURCE ABOUT THIS ARBITRATION , THAT WE HAVE SOME SORT OF
RESPONSIBILITY. >> YES. OKAY, BOTTOM LINE -- BUT WHAT YOU HAVEN'T SAID ANYTHING ABOUT THAT TONIGHT.
>> AND IF WE COULD NOT TALK ANYMORE ABOUT THIS. THE CITY HAS RESPONSIBILITY HERE FOR A COUPLE OF REASONS. THE NUMBER ONE REASON, AND EVERYBODY IN TOWN THAT HAS PAID ATTENTION KNOWS THIS. THE CITY DID NOT MAINTAIN THE, THE PILE CAPS.
THEY RUN HORIZONTALLY, THEY HOLD UP THE STRUCTURE .
THERE'S FIVE OF THEM TOTAL. 3 OUT OF THE 5 OF THEM ARE THE CITY'S RESPONSIBILITY. THE CITY DID NOT, FOR THE LAST 24 YEARS, MAKE ANY REPAIRS OR MAINTENANCE OF ANY KIND ON THOSE PILE CAPS. THERE WAS AT LEAST ONE TIME IN THE LAST 25 YEARS THAT BRETZ HAS DONE THAT. SO THEY'RE CLAIMING THE CITY DID NOT MAINTAIN IT. WE KNOW THAT THE PRICE TAG FOR THE CITY TO GET THOSE PILE CAPS IN A CONDITION, BASED ON OUR STRUCTURAL ENGINEER, AND ALSO MR. GEORGE, WHO CONFIRMED THAT OPINION, IS $774,000 . AND WE HAD TWO YEARS, HAVING TWO OR THREE YEARS LEFT ON THE LEASE, THE CITY COMMISSION DECIDED NOT TO MAKE THOSE REPAIRS, AND THAT WE WOULD LIVE OUT THE LEASE, AND WE HAVE MONITORED THE, THE STRUCTURE SINCE THEN. THE OTHER THING THAT THE CITY DID WAS, EVEN THOUGH THE CITY DIDN'T MAINTAIN ITS PORTION, THE CITY DID GIVE A NOTICE TO BRATS, AND IT BECAME VERY PUBLIC PROCESS THAT BRETZ WAS NOT STRUCTURALLY SOUND, AND SO THEY ARE CLAIMING THAT THE CITY HAS HARMED THEM AND THEIR BUSINESS. THAT, THOSE ARE THE CLAIMS THAT ARE BEING MADE, BUT THAT'S REALLY ALL I CAN SAY TONIGHT.
>> THANK YOU, TAMMY. >> YOU'RE WELCOME.
>> ALL RIGHT, APPRECIATE YOU. >> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS?
>> YES, I DO HAVE ONE QUESTION. IT IS NOT THAT. AS FAR AS I WAS CONCERNED, AND I'M UNDER THE IMPRESSION , WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT FINANCES, THAT THE MARINA, WE HAD ALSO DISCUSSED IN THIS EVENING ABOUT THE MARINA, THAT, WHERE IS OUR REFUND FOR OUR INSURANCE COMING ALONG? IS IT AT THE FINISH
LINE? >> SO LET ME MAKE IT CLEAR FOR MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC LISTENING, THE CITY PAYS ABOUT 400 THOUSAND DOLLARS PER YEAR AS ITS ANNUAL PREMIUM TO COVER THE DOCS, THE NEW DOCS THAT ARE OUT THERE THAT COST $7 MILLION TO PUT IN. SO $460,000. THAT RENEWAL IS DONE IN JULY. THE CITY HAS ALREADY AGREED TO BUDGET IT, AND PAID FOR THAT RENEWAL THIS YEAR. AND SO WE HAVE, AND WE'VE HAD IN PROCESS FOR TWO YEARS NOW, AN APPLICATION TO THE STATE OF FLORIDA'S INSURANCE COMMISSIONER FOR A WAIVER OF THE CITY'S RESPONSIBILITY TO ITS CALLED OBTAIN AND MAINTAIN INSURANCE FOR THAT FACILITY. IF THE CITY DOESN'T HAVE INSURANCE, THEN FEMA WILL NOT PAY A FUTURE CLAIM. IF THE CITY GETS A WAIVER FROM HAVING THE INSURANCE , FROM THE INSURANCE COMMISSIONER, AND THEN APPLIES TO FEMA TO HAVE THAT, THAT WAIVER RECOGNIZED, THEN, IF THERE IS A STORM EVENT, THE CITY DOES NOT CARRY INSURANCE, WHAT WOULD BE OUR INTENTION IF WE HAVE A WAIVER. THEN FEMA WOULD PAY THE CLAIM. SO WE'RE STILL IN THAT PROCESS, AND MY UNDERSTANDING IS MR. JACOBS IS GETTING CLOSER AND CLOSER TO GETTING THAT INSURANCE COMMISSIONER MY ENDORSEMENT OF THAT. BUT AFTER THAT, JUST GETTING THAT ENDORSEMENT IS NOT THE END OF THE PROCESS. THEN WE HAD TO GO THROUGH FEMA TO DO THAT. SO IT, IT'S , WE KNOW
HOW LONG THAT TAKES. >> AND SO FAR, WE'VE BEEN PURSUING THIS NOW FOR AT LEAST TWO YEARS.
>> AT LEAST TWO YEARS, YUP. YEAH. THIS IS SOMETHING THAT
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STATE OF FLORIDA HAS, HAS, IS NOT, DOES NOT HAVE A WELL OILED MACHINE TYPE OF PROCESS FOR IT. IT'S, IT'S REALLY NOT SOMETHING THAT'S DONE. SO THERE'S WADING THROUGH HOW TODO IT. >> THANK YOU, TAMMI. I WAS JUST
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POINTING THAT OUT. >> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS?
>> THAT'S IT, MS. BACH. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. MS. BEST?
>> AUGUST THE EIGHTH, WE HAVE A 5:00 WORKSHOP. WE, IF ANY, ANYBODY, WE DID HAVE AUGUST 7TH AS A WORKSHOP ALSO, BUT THAT WAS CANCELED AT OUR LAST MEETING HERE. COMMISSIONER AYSCUE SCHEDULED PROHIBITS HIS INDEPENDENCE, SO WE ARE NOT MEETING ON AUGUST 7TH, WE'RE MEETING ON AUGUST THE EIGHTH.
WE ALSO HAVE TENTATIVE WORKSHOPS SCHEDULED FOR THE BUDGET ON AUGUST 12TH AND AUGUST THE 13TH, IF THEY'RE
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NECESSARY. AND THEN WE ALSO HAVE SPECIAL BUDGET MEETINGS ON SEPTEMBER 3RD. THAT THAT 5:05, AND SEPTEMBER 17TH AT 5:05.THANK YOU. >> EXCELLENT. THANK YOU, MS. BEST. OKAY, COMMISSIONER COMMENTS. COMMISSIONER ROSS?
>> FIRST THING I'D LIKE TO, GLENN WILLIAMS WAS THE FINE COMMISSIONER FOR NASSAU COUNTY FOR 13 YEARS, AND I WANT TO THANK HIM BRIEFLY. HE RETIRED FROM THAT POSITION, AND I WANT TO THANK HIM FOR HIS SERVICE ON THAT. I KNOW WE HAD A GREAT DEAL TO DO WITH US GETTING THE NEW MARINA INSTALLED. AND I WOULD LIKE TO GIVE A SHOUT OUT TO KATHY CHAPMAN, WHO IS THE NEW COMMISSIONER FOR NASSAU COUNTY -- MANAGER. AND I THINK SHE'LL DO A FINE JOB. AND THEN, FINALLY, I'D LIKE TO KUDOS TO THE STORM WATER CREW THAT WAS OUT YESTERDAY IN THE POURING RAIN, DIGGING OUT A DRAINAGE DITCH DOWN ON SOUTH FOURTH STREET. THEY WERE OUT THERE WORKING IN THE POURING RAIN, AND I REALLY APPRECIATE, I THINK THE PEOPLE THAT LIVE ON THAT STREET APPRECIATE THEIR DILIGENCE IN DOING THAT. AND SO I WOULD ASK YOU TO THINK THEN.
THAT'S ALL I HAVE. >> COMMISSIONER ANTUN?
>> I'D LIKE TO START BY SENDING MY SINCEREST APOLOGIES FOR NOT BEING PRESENT AT THE LAST MEETING. I DON'T HAVE ANY MIRACULOUS STORY TO TELL. I SAID WE HAVE PATIENCE ON MY SCHEDULE AND I DIDN'T CLOCK IT. I THINK THE CITIZENS DESERVE BETTER. ON A MORE POSITIVE NOTE, I THINK MORE OF OUR CITIZENS WOULD LIKE TO HEAR SOME OF THE AMENITIES THAT ARE A CITY OFFERS, AND MY DAUGHTER'S SECOND BIRTHDAY WAS AT THE CITY AIRPORT VIEWING DECK. FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO DON'T KNOW THAT'S AN OPTION, THAT'S A WONDERFUL VENUE, AND WE APPRECIATE THE STAFF, SPECIFICALLY MR. BOB. HE WAS VERY HOSPITABLE FOR THAT EVENT, SO THANK YOU.
>> ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER AYSCUE?
>> NOTHING MUCH, MAYOR, AND I HOPE EVERYBODY MADE IT THROUGH THE FORM. I HOPE, I HOPE EVERYONE STAYS SAFE OUT THERE FOR THE REMAINING PART OF THIS STORM, AND WE'LL SEE EVERYONE
HERE ON THURSDAY. >> PERFECT, THANK YOU. VICE
MAYOR? >> THANK YOU, MAYOR. I'M JUST GOING TO TAKE A BRIEF MOMENT TO DO A HIGHLIGHT REEL ON TODAY'S MEETING. NUMBER ONE, WE'RE UNDER TWO HOURS RIGHT NOW. AND NUMBER ONE, POPE PENSON, THE NEW, GOING TO BE NEW RENOVATED PARK, EVENTUALLY, ONE DAY, IS NOW NAMED AFTER POPE PENSON, AND I SPEARHEADED THAT, AND I WILL STAND BEHIND IT, AND I'M GOING TO BE BEHIND IT UNTIL IT GETS ACCOMPLISHED. THAT'S A BIG DEAL. NUMBER TWO, WE SPENT ALMOST $1 MILLION THIS EVENING ON OUR CITY, ALMOST $1 MILLION. WE WERE SHORT BY, LET ME LOOK AT MY FIGURES REAL QUICK. 3900 AND -- $3961 SHORT OF $1 MILLION THIS EVENING ON THE CITY. SO WITH A, WITH, WITH A SLIGHT REAL OF PETANQUE COURTS, ANNEXATION, WHICH COSTS NOTHING, CONSERVATION LAND, WHICH WE PICKED UP, 30 PARKING PLACES WHICH WE'RE GOING TO IMPROVE, NEW SHORELINE REPAIRS.
IT'S, IT'S A LONG LIST OF STUFF THAT JUST SEEMS TO BE, KEEPS ON GOING. PRETTY AWESOME. THANK YOU, AND I REALLY APPRECIATE EVERYBODY'S SUPPORT, AND WITH THE POPE PENSON PARK, AND MOVING FORWARD TO IMPROVE OUR CITY, IT'S
AWESOME. THANK YOU. >> WELL DONE, VICE MAYOR. THANK YOU. TONIGHT, I WANT TO GIVE SOME CONDOLENCES TO STATE REPRESENTATIVE GEORGE CREDE. YOU KNOW HIM FROM THE CREDE BRIDGE. HE REPRESENTED US FOR MUCH OF THE END OF THE 20TH CENTURY. HIS WIFE PASSED AWAY, SO WE, WE WISH HIM AND THE WHOLE CRANEY FAMILY THE BEST AT THIS TIME. PLEASE KEEP THEM IN YOUR PRAYERS. COUPLE EVENTS. MAKE SURE THOMAS PATCH ALREADY SAID THE WHEELS AND WINGS IS HAPPENING ON AUGUST 17TH.
THAT'S COMING UP QUICK. A PARADE IS NEXT FRIDAY ON THE 16TH. THAT THE PARADE THAT WE'RE GOING TO WELCOME HIM TO POPE PENSON. IT'S GOING TO BE A BIG THING. IF YOU CAN MAKE IT OUT ON THE 16TH, PLEASE BE THERE. HURRICANE DEBBIE, THANK YOU TO EVERYONE IN CITY STAFF FOR MAKING THAT HAPPEN. I'LL
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ACTUALLY ECHO WHAT COMMISSIONER ROSS SAID ABOUT THAT HOUSE ON SOUTH FOURTH, AND I WANT TO GIVE ANOTHER THANK YOU. AT THIS MEETING WAS HAPPENING, OUR TEAM SENT SUMP PUMPS OUT THERE TO HELP WITH THAT WATER ISSUE, SO THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR WHAT YOU DO, BEING VERY RESPONSIVE. I WENT OUT THERE AND MET WITH THEM THIS AFTERNOON. ONE NAME THEY COULDN'T STOP SAYING WAS HOW GREAT ANDRE HAD BEEN, COMING OUT THERE TO HELP WITH THEIR ISSUES. SO THANK YOU FOR WHAT YOU DO, ANDRE, AND PLEASE EXTEND THANKS. I WANT TO GIVE JEREMIAH AND YOU, JUST EXTEND