Jul 02, 2024 Regular Meeting

[1. CALL TO ORDER]

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>> GOOD EVENING, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN. I AM CALLING THIS MEETING OF THE ARTMAN OF THE CITY COMMISSION TO ORDER. AS ALWAYS, WE WILL START WITH THE ROLL. TAKE US AWAY.

>> OF ALLEGIANCE LED BY COMMISSIONER ANTUN. I PLEDGE

ALLEGIANCE >>TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS ONE NATION UNDER GOD INDIVISIBLE WITH LIBERTY AND

JUSTICE FOR ALL. >> PLEASE REMAIN STANDING FOR THE INVOCATION LED BY REVEREND NOEL ROBERTS.

>> DEARLY FATHER, WE THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO COME TO THIS PLACE AND CONDUCT THE BUSINESS OF THIS WONDERFUL PLACE YOU HAVE GIVEN US A TO LIVE. LORD, WE ASK THAT YOU GUIDE AND DIRECT, HELP US TO BE KIND TOWARD ONE ANOTHER. LORD, BE APPRECIATIVE OF ALL YOU HAVE BLESSED US WITH. LORD, WE THANK YOU FOR ALL OF THESE THINGS AND WE ASK IN JESUS'S NAME, AMEN.

>> FRANKIE. THANK YOU. >> GETTING STARTED, WE DO HAVE

[4.1. PRESENTATION - NASSAU HUMANE SOCIETY - Nassau Humane Society Executive Director Chantal Scherer will present the "City Commission Dog of the Month."]

>> SAY, HELLO. HI, EVERYBODY. THIS IS RORY. I HAVE GOOD NEWS.

THE DOG I BROUGHT LAST WEEK, ELOISE, SHE HAS BEEN ADOPTED.

>> IF YOU LIKE BOXERS, SHE HAS A SISTER WAITING TO GO WITH HER.

THEY DON'T HAVE TO BE REHOMED TOGETHER, IF THEY COULD, THAT WOULD BE DELIGHTFUL. SHE IS OVER ONE-YEAR-OLD. THEY CAME TO US AS SURRENDER. BILLY WHO OWNED THEM COULD NO LONGER TAKE CARE OF THEM. WE HAVE TAKEN IN AND. THEY ARE HEALTHY AND

WELL-ADJUSTED DOGS. >> DO THEY DROOL?

>> YES. IF YOU CAN SEE MY TROUSERS.

>> I OWN A BOXER, I KNOW THAT HAPPENS.

>> THEY ARE VERY SWEET, THE OTHER DOG IS, LAURA LIE. THEY ARE NAMED AFTER THE TWO CHARACTERS ON GILMORE GIRLS.

SHE IS SWEET. >> IT SOMEONE WANTS TO ADOPT THESE TWO BOXES, WHAT CAN THEY DO? WHERE CAN THEY GO?

>> THEY CAN COME TO THE SHELTER, 639 AIRPORT ROAD. THEY CAN HAVE A LOOK ONLINE AT THAT SO AND SEE THESE TWO DOGS AND OTHER DOG. WE TOOK PLACE IN A -- IN JACKSONVILLE. WE TOOK $32 AND 26 WERE ADOPTED. WHICH IS EVEN BETTER NEWS, BECAUSE TOMORROW WE ARE TAKING 18 DOGS FROM A KILL SHELTER NOT TOO FAR FROM HERE. WE WILL LOAD THE SHELTER BACKUP.

>> THANK YOU FOR YOUR WORK IN THE COMMUNITY, ROUND OF APPLAUSE FOR GETTING TWO DOGS ADOPTED IN TWO MONTHS.

APPLAUSE ]. >> ANOTHER GREAT PRESENTATION

[4.2. PRESENTATION - "FERNANDINA 200" - In commemoration of Fernandina Beach's 200th Anniversary, Lighthouse Keeper Thomas Patrick O'Hagan will provide a presentation at the first City Commission Regular Meeting of each month in the year 2024.]

O'HAGAN IN THE ROOM? >> HE IS NOT AVAILABLE THIS EVENING. I HAVE A FEW EVENTS TO SHARE WITH US.

>> I THINK YOU ARE MORE THAN ACCEPTABLE SUBSTITUTE. I WILL NOT TELL THOMAS PATRICK O'HAGAN THAT.

>> NOT NEARLY AS ENTERTAINING.

17TH, THE EXHIBIT FOR SAN BERNARDINO. AUGUST 17TH, WHEELS AND WINGS FROM 10:00 TO 2:00 AT THE AIRPORT. SEPTEMBER 20TH -- WEST NASSAU FROM 12:00 TO 1:00. AND OCTOBER 12, -- AT THE MUSEUM AND THE GENEALOGICAL SOCIETY. AND OCTOBER 19TH, THE CAR SHOW ON CENTER STREET. THANK YOU.

[4.3. PRESENTATION - ALACHUA STREET STORM DRAINAGE IMPROVEMENT PROJECT UPDATE - Public Works - Utilities Director Mr. Andre Desilet will provide an update on the Alachua Street Storm Drainage Improvement Project.]

>> THANK YOU. THERE IS A LOT GOING ON OF THE COMMUNITY. MAKE SURE YOU GO THERE. 4.3 PRESENT TEACHER -- PRESENTATION FOR THE ALTRUIST STREET STORM DRAINAGE IMPROVEMENT PROJECT. WE HAVE

ANDRE DESILET. >> GOOD EVENING. I WANTED TO TAKE AN OPPORTUNITY . IS THAT GOING TO AUTOMATICALLY COME UP HERE? ALL RIGHT. JUST TO BRING EVERYBODY UP TO SPEED. AND LET YOU KNOW THE UPDATE TO THE. -- AREA ALACHUA STREET. THIS IS A

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WE HAD SOME LONG LEAD TIMES ON THE LOT OF EQUIPMENT. WE FINALLY GOT THE CRITICAL -- DELIVERED IN MARCH, 2023. AT THAT POINT WE BEGAN TO WORK WITH THE CONTRACT -- TO GET THE PROJECT UNDERWAY. EVENTUALLY THEY DETERMINED IT WOULD NOT HAPPEN. WE TERMINATED THE CONTRACT WITH TNG IN NOVEMBER.

AND WE BEGAN TO SALVAGE THE PROJECT. WE HAD ANOTHER CONTRACTOR THAT WE WORKED WITH . IT TOOK SOME TIME TO GET PRICING FROM THEM TO PICK UP THE PROJECT. IT CAME IN AT $7.3 MILLION, WHICH IS I THINK LARGELY RELATED TO THE OVERALL COST OF MANPOWER , JUST LOGISTICS INVOLVED WITH THE PROJECT. I DO NOT BELIEVE THAT PRICE OR ANYTHING IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD IS SOMETHING THAT IS ACCESSIBLE TO THE CITY. SO WE BEGAN TO LOOK FOR ALTERNATIVES TO TRY TO GET THIS PROJECT MOVING. AND WHAT WE HAVE COME UP WITH -- I WILL COME BACK TO THAT. WE HAVE COME UP WITH AN ALTERNATIVE PROJECT.

IF YOU RECALL, THE ORIGINAL PROJECT WAS A STORMWATER PUMP STATION. THE INSULATION AND REPLACEMENT PIPES UNDER THE RAILROAD IS KIND OF THE CRITICAL FACT THEIR DRIVING UP THE COST. WHAT WE HAVE COME UP WITH , AND THIS IS A GENERAL PRELIMINARY SKETCH. AND INFILTRATION SYSTEM. IT WILL BASICALLY BE THE ENTIRE BLOCK FROM FRONT TO SECOND STREET. WE WILL PROVIDE MORE CAPACITY AND TREATMENT IN THAT AREA, ON THE ROADWAY. WE FEEL CONFIDENT WE COULD REHABILITATE THE EXISTING PIPES, WHICH WILL ELIMINATE THE NEED TO DO THE -- PROCESS, WHICH HAS A MAJOR COST. WITH THIS PROJECT, WE ARE CONFIDENT WE WILL BE ABLE TO ADDRESS THE FLOODING ISSUES. ONE OF THE FEATURES OF THE PREVIOUSLY PLANNED PROJECT WAS IT'S THE PLIED OFF-SITE TREATMENT CAPACITY FOR DEVELOPMENT AND REDEVELOPMENT IN THE BASIN. THERE ARE COUPLE OF PROJECTS THAT HAVE IDENTIFIED THIS IS SOMETHING THEY ARE PLANNING ON.

PART OF THIS IS IT INCLUDES THE CAPACITY FOR ADJACENT PROPERTIES TO HELP MOVE THAT FORWARD SO WE DON'T HAVE A FORMAL COMMITMENT. IT IS SOMETHING PEOPLE HAVE MOVED FORWARD WITH THE UNDERSTANDING THIS IS FINALIZED, WE ARE FINALIZING PLANS AND SUBMITTING THAT TO THE MANAGEMENT DISTRICT. WE HAVE TO PIVOT FROM OUR ORIGINAL PROJECT TO THE REVISED DESIGN. THAT IS KIND OF WANT -- WHY WE WANT TO BRING THIS FORWARD. YOU WILL START SEEING SOME RESOLUTIONS, SOME PURCHASES , SOME ITEMS COME BEFORE YOU THAT WILL WORK TOWARD THIS GOAL. THERE IS THE ORIGINAL FINDING , IT COVERED THE ENGINEERING AND DESIGN, BUT PHASE TWO FOR CONSTRUCTION IS NOT COMPATIBLE WITH THE SCOPE OF WORK. IF THERE ARE NO -- OBJECTIONS, AT A FUTURE DATE, WE WILL BRING A RESOLUTION TO WITHDRAW THE APPLICATION FOR THAT. TO CLOSE THE LOOP AS FAR AS STATE IS CONCERNED. AS FAR AS THE BUDGET

FOR THIS PROJECT, -- >> WE HAVE A COUPLE OF

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>> THE PROBLEMS WITH THE PIPES ARE TWOFOLD. THERE'S A 24 INCH LINE CURRENTLY, AS WELL AS 18 INCH. THE STRUCTURE ON THE EAST SIDE THAT CONNECTS THOSE PIPES IS EXTREMELY LOW. AND BASICALLY GET FILLED WITH GRAVEL FROM THE RAILROAD CAN'T ONLY. IT IS VERY DIFFICULT TO KEEP THAT SYSTEM CLEAR. WE HAVE GOT THE 24 INCH CLEARED, IT IS READY TO BE LINED. IT'S A SIMILAR PROCESS WE USE FOR STORMWATER SYSTEMS ALL OVER TOWN.

INAUDIBLE ] TO COMPLETELY REHABILITATE THE BUY. THE 18 INCH, WE PROBABLY WILL HAVE TO GET EVENTUALLY CLEAN, I WANT TO DO THAT ONCE WE ARE READY TO LINE IT SO THAT THERE IS NOT ANY TIME WHERE THE SYSTEM IS VULNERABLE TO ADDITIONAL

DAMAGE. >> WILL AFFECT THE THROUGHPUT? YOU ARE SHRINKING THE DIAMETER OF THE PIPES.

>> WE ARE, THAT SO BASICALLY, THEY ARE BARELY FUNCTIONING. WE HAVE GOTTEN THAT MUCH BETTER RIGHT NOW. WE RUN ANALYSIS , AND THE CAPACITY WILL WORK FOR THE FLOW-THROUGH THERE. WITH THE ADDITIONAL STORAGE, IT HELPS TO REGULATE THAT FLOW. IT GIVES US THE ADDITIONAL STORAGE SO WE DO NOT NEED AS LARGE A

PIPE. >> IT ANSWERS MY QUESTION COMPLETELY. MY OTHER QUESTION, WHICH I'M SURE IS ON THE NEXT SLIDE. YOU ALLUDED TO IT. I JUST KNOW THE MOST EXPENSIVE PART OF THE PROJECT WAS GETTING THE -- THERE WAS ONLY FIVE AND THE ENTIRE U.S. TO GO UNDER THE RAILROAD TRACKS. WITHOUT THAT, THAT WOULD BE SIGNIFICANT REDUCTION OF PRICE IN THAT

REGARD THOUGH. >> ABSOLUTELY. WHAT WE ARE LOOKING AT , THE TOP IS THE FUNDING WE HAVE AVAILABLE. THIS IS THE FUNDING ALLOCATED FOR THIS PROJECT . LEFT OVER FROM THE CONTRACT -- AS WELL AS THE CRA MONEY AVAILABLE. BOTH FOR ROADWAY CONSTRUCTION AND -- WE HAVE A TOTAL AVAILABLE OF $2.9 MILLION. WE ARE LOOKING AT A CONSTRUCTION COST OF AROUND $1.2 MILLION. TO INCLUDE RAILROAD IMPROVEMENTS, WHICH ARE ON THE AGENDA FOR THIS EVENING FOR CSX TO CONSTRUCT THE CROSSING. AS WELL AS THE ASPHALT, CONCRETE AND DRAINAGE

SYSTEM. >> WE THINK IT IS A COST-EFFECTIVE PROJECT, AND A WAY TO MOVE THE BUDGET FORWARD.

>> THIS IS A HUGE WIN, THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THIS FORWARD.

MY NEXT QUESTION IS ABOUT THE FUNDS THEMSELVES. WE ARE PROBABLY APPROACHING THE END OF THE WINDOW WE CAN SPEND THAT.

IS THAT RIGHT? >> -- CAN SPEAK TO THAT. I BELIEVE THE FUNDS HAVE BEEN HANDED AND ADDRESSED IN THE

TIMEFRAME. >> IS THAT CORRECT?

>> TECHNICALLY WE USED -- FUNDS FOR REVENUE LOSS. SO WE HAVE

ALREADY HIT THAT TIMEFRAME. >> SO YOU ARE TELLING ME WE ARE GOOD TO GO ON THAT? THANK YOU , MISS BOEING. I APPRECIATE THAT.

>> THE NEXT STEP WAS THE TIMELINE. I AM HAPPY TO TAKE

QUESTIONS IF YOU HAVE THEM. >> I THINK YOUR TIMELINE MAY ANSWER MY QUESTION. WOULD YOU LIKE TO PRINT THAT?

>> ESPECIALLY SINCE WE HAD A QUOTED PROJECT OF UPWARDS OF $7.4 MILLION, WHAT WOULD BE THE SAME -- CONSIDERATION -- WHAT IS THE DIFFERENCE IN THE EFFICACY OF THE SYSTEM THAT WAS THERE. IS THIS 80% OF WHAT WE WOULD HAVE GOTTEN?

>> IT IS TOUGH TO SAY. THEY ARE DIFFERENT PROJECTS. THE IDEA BEHIND THE PUMP STATION WAS BUILDING TOWARDS THE FUTURE. IT WAS DESIGNED TO WORK HAND-IN-HAND WITH WATERFRONT FLOOD PROTECTION. SO YOU COULD PUMP OUT THE STORM WATER NO MATTER WHAT THE TITLE PERMISSIONS WERE ON THE OTHER SIDE. ONCE WE DO FINALLY MOVE FORWARD WITH THE COMPLETION OF THE SHORT LINE OF PROTECTION, WE WILL HAVE TO MANUALLY PUMP THE STORM WATER FROM BEHIND THE FLOOD WALL. BUT FOR A NON-STORM

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>> WHAT OUR TIMELINE IS, WE ARE UPDATING THIS COST ONLY AS WE ARE GETTING THE BEST IN THE NATION AVAILABLE. THIS IS PROBABLY A LITTLE LONGER THAN THE PRELIMINARY TIMELINE WE HAVE LOOKED AT. WE HAVE A MEETING WITH -- HAD A MEETING WITH ST. JOHN'S LAST WEEK. WE WENT OVER THE APPLICATION AND THE SCOPE AND DETAIL THEY NEED FROM US. IT WAS A LITTLE MORE.

USUALLY, AS A MUNICIPALITY SUBMITTING PROJECTS , IT'S USUALLY A LITTLE BIT SMOOTHER PROCESS. THEY ARE ASKING FOR A HIGHER LEVEL OF DETAIL THAN WE CURRENTLY HAVE. DO WE ARE HAVING TO GIVE A LITTLE MORE COMPLETE PACKAGE TOGETHER FOR THEM. THAT IS ON JULY 19TH. -- WITH ONE ROUND OF COMMENTS, WE WOULD HAVE THE APPLICATION FOR THE MIDDLE OF SEPTEMBER. CSX, WE HAVE NAILED DOWN THAT SCOPE. WE LOOK TO HAVE THAT APPROVAL AT THE END OF AUGUST. AND BEGIN CONSTRUCTION LATE SEPTEMBER. I FEEL THAT GIVES US THE FLEXIBILITY WE NEED TO ADJUST TO ANY CHANGES IN THAT TIMELINE. THAT IS KIND OF WHAT WE ARE LOOKING AT MOVING FORWARD. IT WILL ROLL A LITTLE BIT INTO THE NEXT FISCAL YEAR.

>> PERFECT . AND YOU ARE REMOVED CURRENT CONCRETE

STRUCTURES DOWN THERE? >> WE HAVE A CONTRACTOR SCHEDULED FOR THE WEEK OF JULY 8TH. NEXT WEEK. TO RELOCATE THOSE STRUCTURES. AND TO GET THE EYESORE TAKING CARE OF .

AND WE ARE ALSO LOOKING TO REPURPOSE EQUIPMENT PURCHASED, THAT THE PREVIOUS CONTRACTOR REQUIRED BE DELIVERED TO US.

THEY WILL NOT BE USED IN THIS IS THE. I BELIEVE WE CAN RESELL IT OR REPURPOSE IT. OUR GOAL IS IN THE -- WATER SYSTEM. SOME OF THOSE PUMPS AND GENERATORS MIGHT BE A GOOD CHOICE FOR THAT

SYSTEM. >> ANDRE, DO WE ONLY DEAL WITH

CSX? >> IT TECHNICALLY -- ORIGINALLY, THE PERMIT WAS FOR CSX , THE THE LICENSURE AGREEMENT. SINCE WE ARE DOING MAINTENANCE ACTIVITIES, IT DROPS DOWN TO THE LEVEL OF -- AS THE TRACK OPERATOR. OUR RAILROAD CONSULTANT IS HELPING US NAVIGATE THAT PROCESS. WE HAVE A GOOD IDEA OF WHAT THE REQUIREMENT ARE.

>> IT SOUNDS LIKE YOU HAVE CHECKED OUT THE MAILBOX KEEP THE PROJECT GOING. -- THAT IS THE COST SAVINGS, THANK YOU FOR

FINDING THAT. >> FORTUNATELY, IT WAS IN BETTER SHAPE THAN WE THOUGHT IT WAS.

>> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR MR. ANDRE DESILET?

>> I KNOW THIS FORUM DID NOT ALLOW FOR PUBLIC INPUT. I WILL BE HERE UNTIL THE END UNTIL THE PUBLIC COMMENTS SECTION. LIKE I SAID, ON THIS EVENING'S AGENDA IS THE CSX AGREEMENT FOR THE CONSTRUCTION. YOU WILL START SEEING SOME AGENDA ITEMS

RELATED TO THIS. >> EXCELLENT, THANK YOU SIR.

MOVING ON IN. ENTERING RESOLUTION. HOW IT WORKS, I HOPE EVERYONE HAS AN OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK TONIGHT.

MAKE SURE YOU FILL OUT ONE OF THE PAPERS IN THE BACK, YOU CAN SPEAK ON ANY ITEM AT ANY TIME. FOR ANY ITEM NOT ON THE AGENDA, IT WILL BE ON ITEM EIGHT . RIGHT AFTER THE RESOLUTIONS.

[5.1 BUDGET TRANSFER - LEGAL DEPARTMENT - RESOLUTION 2024-115 APPROVING AN AMENDMENT TO THE LEGAL DEPARTMENT’S BUDGET FOR FISCAL YEAR 2023/2024; AND PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE. Synopsis: Approves a transfer from the City's contingency fund to the legal department's legal/contractual account to cover unanticipated legal expenses.]

APARTMENT. >> THIS IS ADDING $30,000 TO THE LEGAL CONTRACTUAL ACCOUNT. THIS IS WHERE WE PAY FOR OUTSIDE ATTORNEY FEES, AND OTHER FEES. THIS YEAR, THIS FISCAL YEAR, $65,000, THAT WAS BUDGETED. WE ARE ASKING FOR

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APPROVAL. >> DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? SEEING NONE, I HAVE ONE REQUEST TO SPEAK. MISCARRY, PLEASE COME

ON DOWN. >> THANK YOU. ACTUALLY, SHE ALREADY ANSWERED MY QUESTION. MY CONCERN WAS THERE WAS NO AMOUNT LISTED ON THE BUDGET. I UNDERSTAND IT HAS GONE OVER BUDGET BY $30,000. IT IS A SHAME BUT, SO BE IT.

>> YOU I HEAR A MOTION? >> SECOND-PERIOD

>> I HEAR A MOTION AND A SECOND . ANY COMMISSION OR DISCUSSION? SEEING NONE, I WILL TAKE THE OPPORTUNITY. IT'S A GREAT TIME TO BRING IT UP. TODAY WE HAD OUR MEDIATION WITH THE PORT AUTHORITY. WE CAME TO THIS ROOM AND WORKED OUT A DEAL. I DO NOT WANT TO STEAL THE THUNDER FROM THE COMMISSIONER'S COMMENT. WE KATES -- CAME TO AN AGREEMENT. WE DO NOT HAVE TO GO TO COURT WITH THE PORT AUTHORITY. WE WANT TO THANK THE -- FOR COMING TO THE TABLE. WITH THAT IN MIND, LET'S CALL A VOTE.

[5.2 AUTHORIZATION TO PROSECUTE - 522 CITRONA DRIVE - RESOLUTION 2024-116 AUTHORIZING THE CITY ATTORNEY TO PROCEED WITH PETITIONING THE COURT FOR AN INSPECTION WARRANT OF ANY AND ALL STRUCTURES LOCATED AT 522 CITRONA DRIVE FOR UNPERMITTED CONSTRUCTION WORK AND DANGEROUS CONDITIONS; AUTHORIZING FURTHER LEGAL ACTION AS NEEDED TO ENFORCE STOP WORK ORDERS; AND PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE. Authorizing the City Attorney to take legal action to stop unpermitted work on an uninhabitable structure by first seeking an inspection warrant to allow City Building Official access to inspect exterior and interior of structure in violation of City Code of Ordinances and the Florida Building Code.]

>> AUTHORIZATION TO PROSECUTE 4522 CITRONA DRIVE.

>> NOW WE ARE PICKING ANOTHER FIGHT. DO YOU HAVE THE PHOTOGRAPHS? THIS IS A DANGEROUS SITUATION. IF WE HAD ANY OTHER ALTERNATIVE, WE WOULD LOOK FOR A. WE HAVE. THIS CASE HAS BEEN GOING ON FOR YEARS. THE ADDRESS IS 522 CITRONA DRIVE. YOU CANNOT SEE ANY STRUCTURES FROM THE STREET.

IT'S RIGHT ACROSS FROM THE SCHOOL, NEXT DOOR TO OUR FORMERLY MAYOR'S HOME. HE IS WELL AWARE OF THIS CASE. AND HAS MADE NUMEROUS COMPLAINTS. ABOUT FIVE YEARS AGO, CODE ENFORCEMENT, THERE WERE COMPLAINTS THAT THERE WERE MULTIPLE INDIVIDUALS RENTING THE STRUCTURE ON THIS PROPERTY.

THE PROPERTY IS ZONED. 60% IS -- IT WOULD NOT ALLOW A MULTI FAMILY STRUCTURE OR BOARDINGHOUSE, ANYTHING LIKE THAT. THE OTHER -- IS CONSERVATION . I KNOW. THE CODE ENFORCEMENT DEPARTMENT OR COMPLAINT WAS ALERTED THERE WERE MULTIPLE INDIVIDUALS LIVING ON THE PROPERTY. A CASE WAS OPENED TO DETERMINE THAT THEY WERE NOT USING THE PROPERTY IN ACCORDANCE WITH LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE. BUT THE CITY CANNOT CODE ENFORCEMENT POLICE OFFICERS. YOU CANNOT GO INSIDE SOMEONE'S PROPERTY WITHOUT A WARRANT. WE COULD NOT PROVE OUR CASE. NONE OF THE TENANTS WOULD TALK. THAT CASE HAD TO BE DROPPED. FAST FORWARD SEVERAL YEARS, THIS FEBRUARY, 2024. THERE WAS A MAJOR STRUCTURE FIRE IN THE PROPERTY IN THE HOME. BELIEVED TO BE STARTED IN ONE OF THE BEDROOMS. WE DO NOT THINK IT WAS ARSON, BUT AN ACCIDENT. BUT WHEN THE FIREFIGHTERS, POLICE OFFICERS HAD TO GO ON THE PROPERTY TO FIGHT THE FIRE, THEY WERE ABLE TO INSPECT SOME OF ITS. THE BUILDING OFFICIAL FOUND THE PROPERTY WAS UNDER TASTE, UNINHABITABLE AND POSTED IT AS SUCH. THE PROPERTY OWNER WAS ALLOWED TO -- WHEN THERE IS AN EVENT LIKE A FIRE DESTROYS THE PROPERTY, FOR UP TO SIX MONTHS, MAYBE THREE, YOU CAN BRING TEMPORARY TRAILERS ON THE PROPERTY. AND SO FORTH. THAT TIME EXPIRED, THE TRAILERS REMAIN TO THIS DAY. GENERATORS ARE RUNNING BECAUSE THERE IS NO POWER. AND A CODE ENFORCEMENT CASE , THE CODE BOARD FOUND THAT PROPERTY OWNER IN VIOLATION ADDED LAST MEETING, LAST MONTH, WITH REGARD TO THE TRIBE RETAILERS -- TRAILERS. THE HOMES, FROM PHOTOGRAPHS AND WHAT WE CAN SEE FROM THE STREET, INSTEAD OF BEING VACATED AND DEMOLISHED, THE OWNER PULLED THE DEMOLITION PERMIT TO DEMOLISH THE STRUCTURE AND THEN HAD TEMPORARY POWER INSTALLED BY FLORIDA POWER AND DID NOT DEMO THE STRUCTURE. INSTEAD, THE STRUCTURE IS BEING REBUILT.

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>> ANY QUESTIONS? YOU WOULD SAY THE REASON WE NEED TO DO THIS IS BECAUSE IT IS A MATTER OF PUBLIC SAFETY?

>> YES. AND THE PROPERTY IS NOT -- THAT MEANS WHEN THERE'S A HOMESTEAD PROPERTY. THE OWNER IS GETTING A LOT MORE. IF THEY WANT TO LIVE THERE, THE COURT MAY ACTUALLY LET THEM STAY THERE AND LIVE THERE. BUT THEY ARE RENTING THIS TO OTHER PARTIES. IT IS NOT JUST FOR THE HOMEOWNER, AND IT IS NOT HOMESTEADED . WE BELIEVE IT IS UNSAFE AND THAT THIS IS A SAFETY ISSUE THAT WARRANTS -- THE JUDGE HAS TO FIND THAT TOO.

WE HAVE TO FILE AN AFFIDAVIT FROM THE BUILDING OFFICIAL, PROBABLY SOME CODE ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS. GO TO COURT, SHOW THE PHOTOGRAPHS, HAVE A HEARING WHERE THE PROPERTY OWNER CAN TALK WITH THE JUDGE. THIS IS WHAT WE ARE SEEKING, I HAVE TO

ASK PERMISSION. >> TONIGHT, THIS IS NO ACTION DIRECTLY. THE ACTION IS, WE ARE ASKING THE COURT TO TAKE

ACTION? >> YES, SIR.

>> OKAY. DO I HEAR A MOTION? >> I AM HAVING TECHNICAL

DIFFICULTIES. >> SECOND.

>> WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. ANY COMMISSION OR DISCUSSION? LET'S CALL THE WALL, MISSED BEST.

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>> I DO HAVE ONE QUESTION. WHEN WILL YOU BE GOING TO COURT?

>> THIS IS USUALLY SPED UP ON THE COURT DOCKET. WITHIN A FEW WEEKS WE SHOULD HAVE A HEARING. THERE IS NO GUARANTEES. I WOULD BE ABLE TO GET AN AFFIDAVIT SIGNED BY THE BUILDING OFFICIAL

[5.3 BUDGET TRANSFERS - UTILITIES DEPARTMENT - RESOLUTION 2024-117 APPROVING UTILITIES DEPARTMENT BUDGET TRANSFERS IN FISCAL YEAR 2023/2024; AND PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE. Synopsis: Approving Utilities Department budget transfers, in the amount of $150,000, due to unanticipated and emergent Wastewater equipment repairs as well as necessary Water materials cost increases.]

>> THANK YOU. >> 5.3, BUDGET TRANSFERS,

UTILITIES DEPARTMENT. >> I HAD --

>> COME ON DOWN. IS THERE ANOTHER REQUEST TO SPEAK?

>> I JUST HANDED IT IN JUST NOW. JACK AMBER, 1003 BROOME STREET. I AM ALL FOR THIS WARRANT. IT IS AN EXTREME CASE.

IT IS NOT A RARE ONE. THERE ARE TOO MANY CASES OF BUILDING BUILDING WITHOUT PERMITS ON THIS ISLAND. EVERYONE KNOWS WHAT I AM TALKING ABOUT. IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD ALONE, THERE ARE FOUR STRUCTURES I KNOW OF THAT HAVE BEEN ADDED ONTO, WORKED ON, VARIOUS THINGS WITHOUT ANY PERMITS, WHATSOEVER.IT IS AN EGG APPLE OF AN INEFFICIENT CODE ENFORCEMENT SYSTEM AND DEPARTMENT. AND IT JUST NEEDS TO BE RECTIFIED FOR THE VERY REASONS OF SAFETY. WE ARE COMING INTO HURRICANE SEASON.

AGAIN, I AM ALL FOR THIS WARRANT. BUT, IT IS THE TIP OF THE ICEBERG OF A MUCH GREATER PROBLEM.

>> THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMENTS. >> ESTHER MARK EMMA -- MR. ROSS

, GO AHEAD. >> UNLESS SOMEONE REPORTED, -- AND YOU HAVE TO HAVE A WARRANT SO YOU CANNOT GO IN THE HOUSE.

IF THERE IS SOMETHING GOING ON IN THE INTERIOR OF THE HOUSE, AND SOME WOULD PUT THE SHADES DOWN, THERE IS NO WAY YOU CAN SEE. IS NOT AN INEFFICIENT ENFORCEMENT. IT IS FLORIDA LAW

THAT IS THE PROBLEM. >> THERE ARE EXTERIOR PROJECT

-- >> WHEN WE WENT THROUGH THIS AND WE HAD EXPECTIONS, THE CITY WAS SEVERELY CRITICIZED FOR DOING THAT. ONE OF THE FORMER -- PROBABLY LOST HIS JOB DOING

THAT. >> ALL RIGHT. ITEM 5.3, BUDGET TRANSFERS. UTILITIES DEPARTMENT. ONCE AGAIN, MR.

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ANDRE DESILET. >> THANK YOU. ITEM 2024 -- 2024-117 IS APPROVING OUR BUDGET TRANSFER. THIS IS COMBINED BOTH FOR WATER AND WASTEWATER DEPARTMENT . WE JUST HAD SOME LARGER THAN EXPECTED EQUIPMENT PURCHASES AND HAVE EXCEEDED OUR BUDGET . WE WANT TO TRANSFER FROM RESERVE FOR THESE PROJECTS. I RECOMMEND APPROVAL.

>> YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? >> HOW MUCH IS STILL IN THE

RESERVE? >> I DO NOT HAVE THE WATER HANDY. WE HAVE ABOUT $1 MILLION IN RESERVE IN WASTEWATER. BUT THEN WE ALSO HAVE A IMPROVEMENT ACCOUNT, WHICH IS AROUND $5 MILLION. WATER IS ANOTHER TWO OR 3 MILLION.

>> DO I HEAR A MOTION? >> A MOTION AND A SECOND. ANY DISCUSSION? SEEING NONE, IT'S BEST?

>>

[5.4 CONSTRUCTION AND MAINTENANCE AGREEMENT - FIRST COAST RAILROAD INC. - RESOLUTION 2024-118 APPROVING A FIRST COAST RAILROAD INC. CONSTRUCTION AND MAINTENANCE AGREEMENT FOR CONSTRUCTION AND ENGINEERING COSTS RELATED TO THE ALACHUA STREET OPENING AT FRONT STREET; PROVIDING FOR EXECUTION; AND PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE. Approves a First Coast Railroad Inc. Construction and Maintenance Agreement for costs related to the Alachua Street Extension, Project #24003, and Area 5 Drainage, Project #18002, in the amount of $955,700.00.]

>> IN FRONT OF YOU IS RESOLUTION 2024-118, APPROVING AN AGREEMENT FOR CONSTRUCTION AND ENGINEERING COST RELATED TO THE RAILROAD TRACKS AT THE END OF ALACHUA. THIS IS CONSTRUCTION AND MAINTENANCE. THE SCOPE OF THIS PROJECT INVOLVES LADING, SIGNALING AND THE CROSSING THAT WOULD GO IN PLACE AT THE WEST -- THE TOTAL PROJECT NOW IS $955,700. STAFF

RECOMMENDS APPROVAL. >> ANY QUESTIONS?

>> THIS IS BEEN IN THE WORKS SINCE 20 2010 -- 2010 ? WE WERE FINALLY DO THIS AFTER 25 YEARS? AND HOPEFULLY BY WHEN WILL THIS

BE DONE? >> THE SCHEDULE IS TO HAVE IT OPEN BY THE END OF THE CALENDAR YEAR.

>> IS AT THE OCTOBER DATE I SAW ON MR. ANDRE DESILET'S REPORT?

>> YES , HE SAID YOU SEE MORE AGENDA ITEMS. THIS IS A BIG PIECE OF THAT. OF COURSE WE HAVE PAVING AND SIDEWALK IN DETAIL WE WILL BRING BACK TO YOU DURING THE FIRST OF AUGUST TO PAVE THAT PORTION OF BROOME STREET TO THIS PAVEMENT. YOU

WILL SEE PROGRESS. >> BY THE END OF THE YEAR,

CALENDAR YEAR, -- >> YES, SIR.

>> TO COMMISSIONER ROSS'S POINT, WE ARE GETTING IT DONE.

>> DO I HEAR A MOTION? >> MOTION AND A SECOND. ANY DISCUSSION? SEEING NONE, CITY CLERK, CALL THE ROLL.

>>

AHEAD. >> IT HAS BEEN 20 YEARS. AND ORIGINALLY IT WAS APPROVED, AND THEN IT FELL THROUGH. THERE ARE THREE PEOPLE I THINK NEED TO BE TRAINED WHO WERE ABSOLUTELY INSTRUMENTAL IN DOING THIS ABOUT FIVE YEARS AGO. ONE WAS DALE MARTIN. DEL MARTIN WAS THE PERSON AT THE RAILROAD TO AGREE WITH THIS. A PART OF THAT WAS -- SMITH. THE OTHER PERSON WITH AN CONSULTED THAT THE CITY HIRED. THE THIRD PERSON IS A LADY MAIN LAURA -- WHO WORKED FOR THE FLORIDA DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION . IT WAS THE THREE OF THEM. THEY SPENT HUNDREDS OF HOURS ON THIS, NEGOTIATING THIS THING. THIS HAS BEEN GOING ON FOR 20+ YEARS. I JUST THINK THEY

DESERVE A, THANK YOU. >> WITH THAT, WE HAVE 5.5, THE

[5.5 GRANT APPLICATION - FEDERAL AVIATION ADMINISTRATION (FAA) - RESOLUTION 2024-119 AUTHORIZING A FEDERAL AVIATION ADMINISTRATION (FAA) GRANT APPLICATION FOR THE CONSTRUCTION PHASE OF TAXIWAY A REHABILITATION; AUTHORIZING EXECUTION; AND PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE. Synopsis: Authorizes staff to submit a FAA grant application to fund Taxiway A rehabilitation which includes pavement, lighting, and drainage, in the amount of $2,384,638.The Florida Department of Transportation has pledged and budgeted $211,968 towards Taxiway A rehabilitation, leaving the City to provide a match of $52,992, for a total project cost of $2,649,598, for Project #24024.]

>> THANK YOU. RESOLUTION 2024-119, THIS IS A GRANT APPLICATION WITH THE FAA FOR THE CONSTRUCTION PHASE OF THE TAXIWAY A REHABILITATION. WE HAVE SOME CHANGES TO THE DOLLAR AMOUNTS. DUE TO COMPETING INTEREST, WE DID NOT WANT TO PULL THE ITEM OFF THE AGENDA. IF THERE IS A MOTION TO MOVE FORWARD FOR THIS REHABILITATION A PROJECT, I CAN PROVIDE THESE AMENDED DOLLAR AMOUNT INTO THE RECORD, FOR YOUR REVIEW. THEY ARE MINOR AMOUNTS, THEY REDUCE THE COST OF THE PROJECT. IF THE COMMISSION WILL SUBMIT -- I CAN PROVIDE THE AMOUNT FOR THE AMENDMENT TO RESOLUTION 2024-119.

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>> CAN YOU GIVE US THE TOTAL AMOUNT?

>> IT'S A PROJECT IN THE AMOUNT OF 2 MILLION -- INAUDIBLE ] IT HAS BEEN REDUCED TO 2 MILLION 33,000 -- THE PORTION FUNDED BY THE SDLC HAS BEEN LOWERED FROM 211 960,000 TO 108 THOUSAND 900 -- AND THE CITY'S MATCH IN THE AMOUNT OF 52,992 HAS GONE DOWN TO -- TO A TOTAL COST THAT'S BEEN REDUCED

TO $2,481,370. >> WHY WAS IT REDUCED?

>> WE HAD TO REVISE THE AMOUNT -- CAN PROVIDE THAT

INFORMATION. >> UPON FURTHER REVIEW BY THE FAA, THEY SAW THE MOBILIZATION COSTS EXCEEDED TEMPERS THAT.

AND THEY WILL NOT PAY FOR MOBILIZATION COSTS OVER 10%.

THAT REDUCED THE AMOUNT THAT IS ELIGIBLE FOR FAA. WHAT WE ARE ALSO IN CONVERSATION WITH FDO T WHO WILL PICK UP THE

DIFFERENCE. >> THIS IS NOT BEEN BID?

>> YES, IT HAS GONE OUT FOR BID.

>> IS THIS THE BID AMOUNT? >> CORRECT.

>> THANK YOU. >> DO I HEAR A MOTION?

>> MOTION TO APPROVE AS AMENDED.

>> SECOND.. >> YOU HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND . THE RESOLUTION IS AMENDED. DO I HEAR ANY COMMISSIONER DISCUSSION ON SUCH RESOLUTION?

>> THE ONLY THING I WILL SAY IS THE FAA IS COMING FOR US.

>> ABSOLUTELY. PLEASE CALL THE ROLL.

>>

[5.6 PROPOSAL APPROVAL - JAX UTILITIES MANAGEMENT, INC. - RESOLUTION 2024-120 APPROVING THE PROPOSAL FROM JAX UTILITIES MANAGEMENT, INC, IN AN AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED $55,933.94; AUTHORIZING EXECUTION; AND PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE. Synopsis: Approves the proposal from Jax Utilities Management, Inc. for North 7th Street sidewalk and curbing in an amount with contingency not to exceed $55,933.94.]

THIS IS GOOD NEWS. >> RESOLUTION 2024-120, THIS IS FOR THE AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED $55,933 AND 94TH IT. THIS IS FOR THE IN RELATION OF THE CURBING AND SIDEWALK ON NORTH SEVENTH STREET. AS YOU RECALL, THIS IS BEEN A DISCUSSED PROJECT ABOUT CAVORTING -- CONVERTING NORTH SEVENTH, TO GAIN PROPERTY AND PARKING ON THE STREET. THIS IS PROVIDED FOR THAT FRAMEWORK. IN A FOLLOWING MEETING, YOU WILL SEE THE PAVING PROPOSAL TO PAVE NORTH SEVENTH AND BRING IT UP TO THE AESTHETICS AND LOOK AND THE GEOMETRY YOU SEE IN THE STREET IN THE DOWNTOWN CORRIDOR. THE STAFF RECOMMENDS

APPROVAL. >> ANY QUESTIONS?

>> WHAT EXACTLY IS IT PAYING FOR?

>> FOR ALL OF THE CONCRETE WORK. CURBING, AND ALSO A SIDEWALK. WE WILL IMPROVE WORKABILITY BY PUTTING A SIDEWALK ON THE WEST SIDE OF THIS BLOCK.

>> WE DISCUSSED THIS . HAVE YOU TALKED THIS THROUGH WITH THE NEAREST NEIGHBORING METHODIST CHURCH?

>> YES, WE HAVE DISCUSSED WITH THE STAKEHOLDERS. THEY ARE EXCITED ABOUT THE PROJECT AND WANT TO KNOW HOW SOON IT WILL BE DONE. I WILL BE HAPPY TO TELL THEM WE ARE MOVING FORWARD. AND ALSO, THE FARMERS MARKET AS WELL. THEY HAVE BEEN MADE AWARE THAT THE CHANGES ARE FORTHCOMING.

>> THAT IS PERFECT. DO I HEAR A MOTION?

>> I HEAR A MOTION AND A SECOND. COMMISSIONER DISCUSSION? GREAT WORK. THIS IS A HUGE AD FOR PARKING SPOT

DOWNTOWN. >>

[5.7 INTENT TO PURCHASE - GOLF CLUB FAIRWAY MOWERS - RESOLUTION 2024-121 APPROVING THE INTENT TO PURCHASE OF TWO GOLF CLUB FAIRWAY MOWERS FROM DEERE & COMPANY IN AN AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED $182,033.96; AUTHORIZING EXECUTION; AND PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE. Synopsis: Approves staff sending an intent to purchase letter to Deere & Company to purchase two Golf Club fairway mowers in an amount not to exceed $182,033.96.]

>> YES, THAT PASSES 4-0. MOVING TO 5.7, INTENDS TO PURCHASE FOR

GOLF CLUB FAIRWAY MOWERS. >> THANK YOU, RESOLUTION 2024-121 IS AN INTENT PURCHASE FOR TWO FAIRWAY MOWERS FOR THE GOLF CLUB. THIS IS INTENT TO PURCHASE FOR THE NEXT FISCAL YEAR. IT DOES NOT OBLIGATE THE CITY TO FOLLOW THROUGH WITH THE PROJECT, BUT IT POSITIONS US TO ACQUIRE THE EQUIPMENT SOONER.

THE REASON IT IS BEING PUT ON THE AGENDA IS IN THE UPCOMING DISCUSSIONS, THERE WILL BE DISCUSSIONS ABOUT THE FINANCIAL HEALTH AND FUNDING OF THE GOLF COURSE. WE WANT TO COMMISSION THE APPROVAL WITH THE APPROVAL TO PURCHASE THE MOWERS. MUCH NEEDED EQUIPMENT. WE ALSO HAVE SOME COMMISSIONER S AT THE GOLF ADVISORY BOARD. STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL.

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>> DO I HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? >> I HAVE HIM REQUEST TO SPEAK FROM THE CHAIR OF THE GOLF CLUB. MR. JOHN PELOQUIN.

>> GOOD EVENING. JOHN PELOQUIN, 425 NORTH FLETCHER AVENUE. I HAVE BEEN ON THE GOLF COURSE ADVISORY BOARD FOR FOUR YEARS NOW. AND ALSO, I AM PRESENTLY THE CHAIRMAN. NOW I AM PRESENTLY ON OUR FOURTH GOLF COURSE MANAGER, WHO IS PRETTY NEW. SO HE CANNOT BE HELD INTO ACCOUNT. A QUICK REVIEW. I SUPPORT THE INTENT TO PURCHASE OF THE MOWERS. JUST THIS PAST YEAR, YOU AUTHORIZED THE IRRIGATION PUMP, AND EXPRESSIVE -- EXPENSIVE PROJECT, 270,000 OR SO, AND ALSO GOLF CARTS WERE PURCHASED. -- WE ARE NOW OBLIGATED FOR ABOUT $150,000 A YEAR IN INTEREST PAYMENTS. AT THE LAST GOLF ADVISORY BOARD MEETING, THE CONSENSUS OF MEMBERS WAS THAT THE COMMISSION , OR THE CITY BUDGET SHOULD SUPPORT THE GOLF WAS. AND IT DOES. UNFORTUNATELY, IT TENDS TO SUPPORT ITS IN HINDSIGHT, MORE THAN PREPLANNING. LIKE , IF THERE IS A CRISIS, THE IRRIGATION PUMP WILL FAIL, OR THE MOWERS WERE SHOT. I THINK WHAT IS NEEDED IS A CAPITAL INFUSION EACH YEAR AND GOLF CART MANAGEMENT CAN DECIDE HOW TO USE THE FUNDS ON CAPITAL REPLACEMENT FOR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS. OTHERWISE, THEY REALLY CANNOT PLAN ON ANYTHING. THEY HAVE TO WAIT FOR SOMETHING TO BREAK AND THEN THEY COME TO THE COMMISSION AND SAY, PLEASE FIND US OR DO A BUDGET TRANSFER. IT REALLY DOES NOT ALLOW FOR GOOD PLANNING AS FAR AS THE OBSOLESCENCE OF EQUIPMENT. AND THEY REALLY NEEDED THAT. AS FAR AS A BUDGET, THE GOLF COURSE REALISTICALLY, THE FEES COLLECTED FOR THE MUCH PAY FOR THE OPERATION. IT DOES NOT REALLY FIND ANY OF THE CAPITAL. AND CAPITAL PROJECTS ARE NEEDED. IF YOU GO BY THERE, YOU CAN SEE WHAT THEY ARE. BASED ON THE MEMBERS ALL SAY THAT THEY WOULD LIKE THE CITY BUDGET TO SUPPORT THE GOLF COURSE, I AM ASKING YOU CONSIDER THAT THIS YEAR IN THE UPCOMING BUDGET. I HAVE NOT SEEN THE BUDGET YET. I MEANT TO SEE IT, BUT I WAS NOT ABLE TO GET IT DONE AT THIS TIME? -- NOW I AM VENTURING OFF INTO MY OPINION. I'M THINKING WE NEED ABOUT $500,000 INFUSED INTO THE GOLF COURSE EVERY YEAR. AND THIS COMING BUDGET, HUNDRED 50,000 WOULD BE TOWARD COURT PAYMENTS. 80 FOURTHS OF MOWERS, AND THEN THERE WOULD BE LEFT OVER FOR OTHER EQUIPMENT OR PROJECT. AGAIN, THIS IS MY OPINION. SINCE WE HAVE THE MEETING. YOU GET THE GENERAL CONSENSUS. WE CAN COME UP WITH A RESOLUTION. I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THESE THINGS ENDED IN THE NEXT BUDGET. AS A TAXPAYER, I COULD REPORT A TAX INCREASE TO PAY FOR IT. JUST TO LET YOU

KNOW. >> THAT IS CERTAINLY SOME GOOD BUDGET RECOMMENDATION. TONIGHT, YOU WOULD RECOMMEND MOVING

FORWARD WITH THE NUMBERS. >> THANK YOU, EVERYONE.

>> WHAT YOU ARE ADVOCATING -- IS THAT EVERY YEAR THE GOLF COURSE BE SUBSIDIZED APPROXIMATELY $500,000? IN

ADDITION TO THE BUDGET? >> I THINK THAT IS REALISTIC, INSTEAD OF TRYING TO FIX IT AT THE END OF THE YEAR. OR NOT FUNDING EQUIPMENT REPLACEMENT THAT ACTUALLY NEEDS IT. I THOUGHT OF THE CASE , YOU DON'T WAIT UNTIL ALL POLICE CARS ARE BROKEN TO GET NEW ONES. OR FIRE EQUIPMENT IS ALL SHOT. YOU REPLACE IT ONCE YOU DEEM IT USEFUL LIFE IS COMING TO AN END. I THINK YOU NEED TO DO THE SAME FOR THE GOLF

COURSE. >> I HAPPEN TO AGREE WITH YOU.

BUT IF YOU GO WITH -- THAT THE SAME AMOUNT OF MONEY AS LAST YEAR PLUS HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS. THIS YEAR, OUR HEALTH AND INSURANCE COSTS WENT UP $100,000. THIS COMMISSION PROMISED -- THAT'S ABOUT EIGHT OR $900,000 . THE MARINA NEEDS A NEW FUEL TANK. BECAUSE THE OLD ONE IS RUSTING , THAT IS ANOTHER $400,000. I AM NOT UNDERSTANDING WITH -- HOW GOING TO THE ROLLBACK RATE CAN OVERCOME ALL OF THE COSTS.

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>> THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE TO OUR COMMUNITY.

TONIGHT, THERE THE WHOLE BUDGET CYCLE TO TALK ABOUT THINGS LIKE THAT. THE QUESTION IS, ARE WE INTENDING TO URGES THESE MOWERS FROM JOHN DEERE QUITE THE DO I HEAR A MOTION? I HEAR A MOTION AND A SECOND. LET'S HAVE COMMISSIONER DISCUSSION.

COMMISSIONER ANTUN TESTING >> I WOULD LIKE TO ADD TO INTENT TO PURCHASE AND FUND THE MOWERS.

>> DO I HAVE A SECOND? >> DID ANYONE MAKE A MOTION?

>> YOU WILL SECOND MY AMENDMENT?

>> YES. >> IT IS NOT ONLY PURCHASE, BUT

FINDING THE UPCOMING BUDGET? >> IT IS KIND OF A SEGUE TO THIS CONVERSATION. I WOULD LOVE TO HEAR YOUR COMMENTS.

>> THIS MAY LEAD -- NOT BE A POPULAR DISCUSSION. WITH THE AMOUNT THE GOLF COURSE IS BEING SUBSIDIZED, IT RAISES THE QUESTION, CAN WE CONTINUE TO SUSTAIN IT? WOULD LIKE TO PUT THAT TO THE GOLF ADVISORY BOARD TO SEE -- I WOULD LIKE TO HEAR MY FELLOW COMMISSIONERS OPINIONS. BECAUSE UPWARDS OF 7000 -- ROLLBACK OF BUDGET, THESE THINGS START TO BE --

INAUDIBLE ] >> COMMISSIONER COMMISSIONER

AYSCUE? >> -- HAS COME TO SPEAK ON

THIS. >> LET'S HAVE HER COME TALK.

GO AHEAD. >> THANK YOU, THEY ARE BEING. I AM ALSO THE VICE CHAIR OF THE PARKS AND REC ADVISORY BOARD. I SAID SOMETHING IN OUR LAST MEETING, WHICH IS PROBABLY UNPOPULAR. I WILL SAY IT HERE. I FEEL LIKE WE HAVE A LOT OF OPPORTUNITY AT THE GOLF COURSE. THEIR EXISTING INFRASTRUCTURE WITH THE CLUBHOUSE. I THINK THAT IF WE TRY TO LOOK AT THIS FROM A NEW PERSPECTIVE AND REALLY TURNED THE CLUBHOUSE THERE INTO A CLUBHOUSE, MAYBE TAKE SOME OF THE EXISTING GOLF COURSE, I AM NOT SURE OF THE LAYOUT, BUT TURNED IT INTO A RACKET CENTER AS WELL OR PICKLEBALL AND TENNIS. AND A PLACE WHERE TOURNAMENTS COULD BE HAD FOR REVENUE DRIVING, AND LET THE PUBLIC COURTS, PICKLEBALL COURTS AT CENTRAL PARK , ALLOW THOSE TO REMAIN PUBLIC. BUT PEOPLE WHO WANT TO RESERVE COURT SPACE, AND REALLY MAKE IT UP, GOLF AND RACKET CENTER, WE COULD MAKE THE RESTAURANT THERE A LITTLE MORE ROBUST. A PLACE WHERE PEOPLE WANT TO GO AND SIT FOR A FEW HOURS. HAVE FOOD AND DRINKS, BE ABLE TO PLAY SOME GOLF, PICKLEBALL, AND HAVE A PLACE TO DO THAT. I THINK A LOT OF OTHER PLACES DO THIS IN A PRIVATE WAY. BUT SINCE WE HAVE THIS, THE GOLF COURSE -- I THINK WE SHOULD HAVE A MUNICIPAL GOLF COURSE . WE ARE FORTUNATE TO HAVE THAT AS A CITY. I DON'T THINK IT SHOULD GO AWAY. I TAKE WE COULD LOOK AT HOW WE COULD USE IT IN A MORE EFFICIENT WAY TO MAKE IT MAKE MONEY, SO THE GOLF CAN STAY. AND PEOPLE DON'T SEE IT AS A FINANCIAL

SUCK ON OUR MONEY. >> THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER

ANTUN. >> I AM NOT WANT TO BE SUPPORTIVE OF THE AMENDMENT. SIMPLY BECAUSE THAT IS PART OF THE BUDGET PROCESS. IT GOES THROUGH THE BUDGET PROCESS FIRST AND THEN WE WILL DECIDE -- A LOT OF JUSTICE -- PRODUCT, YES, WE WILL HAVE TO START LOOKING IN THAT DIRECTION. THE GOLF CLUB IT SELF, -- I AM NOT NECESSARILY SAYING, 18 TO 27 OR ANY OF THE OTHER THING. PICKLEBALL HAS BEEN BROUGHT UP, MAKING THE RESTAURANT MORE EFFECTIVE. FIND OUT MORE FOOD AND BEVERAGE. RUNNING WATER AND WE WERE DOUBTFUL -- THOSE ARE ALL MASSIVE CAPITAL PROJECTS WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT PUTTING IN SEVERAL BALL COURTS, TALKING ABOUT RUNNING WATER AND SEWER OVER TO -- IF WE NEED TO HAVE A LONGER DISCUSSION ABOUT THE ENTERPRISE FUND, NOT JUST THE GOLF PARK. LET'S HAVE THOSE

[00:50:01]

DURING THE APPROPRIATE TIME. >> LET'S GO TO COMMISSIONER

ANTUN. >> IF NOT NOW, IF YOU COULD COMMENT ON WHAT THE FEASIBILITY WILL LOOK LIKE. AND THE COMMUNITY IMPACT. AND IF WE HAVE CONSIDERED SOME OF THE OPTIONS. IF THAT WILL BE ADDED FOR YOU, I DON'T MIND GIVING YOU TWO THE NEXT MEETING. I KNOW THAT IS A BIG ASK.

OBVIOUSLY, IF REMOVING NINE HOLES DOES NOT CREATE AN ADVANTAGE, I THINK THAT IS THE DIRECTION WE WANT TO GO. WHAT I'VE HEARD IS, WE CAN ROTATE CREATIVE IN HOW WE DO THIS. AND THERE WILL BE ANY OTHER

DISCUSSIONS ABOUT HOW WE -- >> COMMISSIONER ROSS?

>> THIS IS ABOUT THE MOWERS. I THINK THE MOTION ON THE FLOOR IS THAT WE WOULD PURCHASE DESK THE INTENT TO PURCHASE THE

MOWERS. >> COMMISSIONER ROSS, THE FIRST THING WE HAVE TO VOTE ON IS THE AMENDMENT.

>> THE REASON I AM FOR THAT IS THE MOWERS ARE NOT GOING TO GET ANY BETTER, THEY'RE ALL BROKEN DOWN. TWO MOWERS ARE NOT WELL-FUNCTIONING. THEY ARE BEING HELD TOGETHER BY BAND-AIDS. AND THEY NEED TWO HOURS. WHY ARE WE SAYING WE WILL ORDER THEM BUT NOT PAY FOR THEM? I THINK IT WILL ORDER THE, AND THE GOLF COURSE NEEDS THEM, WE SHOULD WAIT FOR THAT.

>> MR. ROSS, WE ARE NOTHING WE ARE NOT PAYING FOR THE.

>> WE SHOULD COMMIT TO PAYING FOR THEM RIGHT NOW. WE DO NOT NEED TO WAIT FOR A BUDGET MEETING. IF YOU WILL COMMIT TO ORDERING THEM, COMMIT TO BUYING THEM. I THINK THAT IS WITH THAT SO WHAT THIS MOTION DOES. THEY NEED THE MOWERS. LET'S COMMIT

TO BUYING THE MOWERS. >> THANK YOU. WE WILL DO TWO OF OATS . FOR THE PUBLIC'S BENEFIT. THE FIRST VOTE IS NOT ON THE INTENT TO PURCHASE THE MOWERS. THE FIRST VOTE IS ON THE COMMITMENT TO PURCHASE THE MOWERS TONIGHT. WHAT I AM GOING

TO SAY IS COMPLETELY -- >> IT IS THE SAME INTENT, TO ORDER AND COMMIT TO FUNDING THE PURCHASE.

>> THANK YOU FOR CLARIFYING. I WILL COMPLETELY SECOND WHAT COMMISSIONER AYSCUE SECONDED. I AM 99.9% SURE WE WILL FIND A WAY TO PUT THE MOWERS IN THIS YEAR'S BUDGET. WE DO HAVE A WHOLE PROCESS WE GO THROUGH EACH LINE AND DETERMINE WHAT WILL BE IN THE BUDGET, AND WHAT WILL NOT BE. THERE THE WHOLE POINT IN TIME IN AUGUST WHEN WE GO THROUGH AND GET THE BUDGET SQUARED AWAY FOR THE NEXT FISCAL YEAR. IT WOULD BE OUT OF ORDER BEFORE WE COMMIT TO FUNDING PUBLIC SAFETY, WE WILL COMMIT TO FUNDING GOLF COURSE MOWERS? THAT DOES NOT MAKE ANY SENSE TO ME. LET'S MAKE SURE WE LISTEN TO THE STAFF, AND THE RECOMMENDATIONS OF OUR ACTUAL CHAIR AND IF THE INTENT FOR PURCHASE SO WE CAN DO THIS WHEN THE TIME COMES. TO MAKE THE COMMITMENT NOW, THAT IS SIMPLY OUT OF ORDER. WE NEED TO BE ON THE SAME PLAYING FIELD TO DISCUSS THE PUBLIC SAFETY BUDGET, AND DISCUSS ALL OF THE PARKS AND REC BUDGETS. LET'S NOT PREEMPTIVELY ADD ON $200,000 WORTH OF COSTS WITHOUT LOOKING AT THE WHOLE PICTURE. THAT IS WHAT THE PROCESS IS

FOR. >> I WILL POINT OUT, IN TWO WEEKS WE HAVE TO -- I AM THE ONLY ONE THAT HAS BEEN THROUGH SEVEN OF THESE BUDGET. ONCE THE -- IS SET, YOU DO NOT WANT TO SPEND THE MONEY. IF YOU ARE WILLING TO COMMIT TO THE CURRENT -- SURE, WE CAN DO IT THAT WAY.

ARE DOING TONIGHT, WHAT IS GOING TO HAPPEN, WHICH ALWAYS HAPPENS, AND HAS HAPPENED IN THE PAST SEVEN YEARS, WE SAY WE WILL DO THIS AND THAT, WE SAY THE MILLAGE RATE IS LOWER, AND THERE IS NO MONEY TO DO IT. I THINK THIS IS TOTALLY AN INAPPROPRIATE TIME TO COMMITTING TO DO IT. WE HAVE ALSO COMMITTED TO THE PAST TO HIRING -- AND THREE EMTS.

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>> WE SPECIFICALLY DID NOT COMMIT TO THAT. BECAUSE THAT WOULD RUIN THE GRANT APPLICATION. IN FACT, IT DID.

THAT WAS THE WRONG WAY TO DO IT AT THE TIME. I REMEMBER SPECIFICALLY IN THAT MEETING, WE DID NOT COMMIT TO THAT.

>> I THINK WE SHOULD BOTH GO LOOK AT THE TAPE. THAT IS OKAY.

>> WITH THAT IN MIND, WE DO HAVE THIS DISCUSSION FOR THE COMMITMENT TONIGHT TO FUTURE FIND THE BUDGET. COMMISSIONER

AYSCUE? >> I AGREE WITH THE MAYOR. I WILL HAVE TO GO BACK AND LOOK AT THE TAPE. WE STATED WE WOULD GO AFTER BOTH GRANTS. WE HAD THE DISCUSSION. HAD THE EXACT SAME STATEMENT I HAD BEFORE. LET'S WAIT UNTIL THE BUDGET PROCESS GOES THROUGH. AND THEN WE WILL LOOK AT HOW WE ARE GOING TO FIND THEM. -- SAID SPECIFICALLY IT IS NOT A GOOD IDEA TO OPENLY STATE YOU WILL FIND -- YOU ARE TRYING TO GET GRANTS FOR. THE SAME TIME IS WHEN THE CONVERSATION ENDED.

THERE WAS NO BOARD DISCUSSION ABOUT IT. HOWEVER, AS I HAVE SAID MULTIPLE TIMES, I AM COMMITTED TO PUBLIC SAFETY AND WORKING AS HARD AS WE CAN TO GET THOSE THREE FIREFIGHTER POSITIONS AND THREE POLICE POSITIONS IF THE GRANT DOES NOT COME THROUGH. THAT IS MY RECOLLECTION OF IT. I STILL THINK WE SHOULD FOLLOW THE PROCESS.

GET THE BUDGET PROCESS, WE WILL FIGURE OUT WHERE THAT IS.

LET'S TELL THE PEOPLE WHO PUT THESE -- TOGETHER

>> THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER ROSS.

>> YOU KEEP SAYING WERE GETTING TO THE BUDGET PROCESS. THEY HAVE BEEN WORKING FOR MONTHS ON THIS BUDGET PROCESS. WE ALREADY KNOW WHAT THE NUMBERS ARE. I KNOW WHAT THE NUMBERS ARE, YOU SHOULD KNOW WHAT THE NUMBERS ARE. WE SEE THE RATES, WE SEE WITH THE MODIFIED ROLLBACK RATE DOES. WHEN YOU KEEP SAYING, LET'S GET TO THE BUDGET PROCESS, WE ARE WELL INTO THAT PROCESS. WE ARE PRETENDING LIKE IT DOES NOT EXIST. I DISAGREE.

>> LET'S GO AHEAD AND CALL THE VOTE ON THE AMENDMENT.

>> NOTHING HAPPENED. THAT MEANS THERE WAS NO AMENDMENT, BACK TO THE MAIN MOTION. MAIN MOTION IS, WE ARE GOING TO TELL JOHN DEAR TO START MAKING US SOME MAYORS. WITH THAT, DO WE HAVE FURTHER DISCUSSION? SEEING NONE, CITY CLERK, PLEASE CALL A

VOTE AGAIN. >>

>> YES, THAT PASSES 4-0. WE LOOK FORWARD TO CONTINUING THE

[5.8 MSTU FUNDING REQUESTS - BEACH WALKOVERS - RESOLUTION 2024-122 APPROVING TWO APPLICATIONS TO THE NASSAU COUNTY BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS AMELIA ISLAND BEACH RENOURISHMENT MUNICIPAL SERVICE TAXING UNIT CAPITAL FUND IN THE AMOUNT OF $50,000 EACH FOR FISCAL YEARS 2023-2024 AND 2024-2025, TO FUND BEACH WALKOVER REPAIR; PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY; AND PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE. Synopsis: Approves the MTSU applications for funding, in the amount of $50,000, in both Fiscal Year 2023/2024 and 2024/2025 for necessary repairs to City beach walkovers for consideration by the Nassau County Board of County Commissioners.]

WALK OVER. >> THANK YOU, RESOLUTION 2024-122 IS A PROVEN TWO APPLICATIONS TO THE NASSAU COUNTY BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS FROM THE AMELIA ISLAND BEACH NOURISHMENT MUNICIPAL SERVICE TAXING UNIT CAPITAL FIND IN THE AMOUNT OF $50,000 FOR FISCAL YEARS 2023 AND 2024 AND 2024 AND .45. THIS IS FOR BEACH WALK OVER FUNDS.

WE CAN USE THIS TO MAINTAIN OUR BOARDWALKS. STAFF HAS IDENTIFIED BOARDWALK THESE MONIES COULD BE USED FOR.

ACCESS 30, ACCESS 28 IS ON THE LIST AS WELL. STAFF RECOMMENDS

APPROVING THIS ITEM. >> ANY QUESTIONS? SEEING NONE, I DO HAVE A REQUEST FROM THE PUBLIC TO SPEAK. --, COME ON

DOWN. >> 1313 HICKORY STREET. I SUPPORT THIS. I WANT TO BACK UP A LITTLE BIT TO WHAT WE ARE DOING HERE. MST YOU WAS FORMED IN 2015. IT ACTUALLY WAS INTERESTING BECAUSE THERE WERE FOUR READINGS WITH THE CONTRAVENES THE -- CONTROVERSY. IT WAS FORMED IN THE 2008 PROTECTION PROJECT, WHICH IS ACTUALLY A CITY SPONSORED PROJECT. RUNNING FROM -- TO SATTLER. THE PURPOSE IS TO PAY THE LOCAL SHARE, WHICH WAS 6% CITY AND 6% COUNTY FOR THE NEXT FIVE-YEAR PLAN. THAT MONEY WOULD ACCUMULATE. SO, 15 MILLION WAS TO ACCUMULATE 50,000,000.5. NEEDLESS TO SAY, THE FIVE YEARS HAS NEVER OCCURRED. WE NEVER DID A FULL PROJECT. SO THE MONEY HAS ACCUMULATED. THE COUNTY HAS NOW

[01:00:03]

THE REASON WE HAD FOUR READINGS WAS TO PRECLUDE THAT. NOW IT IS A LITTLE DIFFERENT, IF WE WERE TO DO THAT TODAY, THE 15 MILLION WOULD PROBABLY BE 40 MILLION EASY. WE DID A $2 MILLION PROJECT, WHICH WAS TWO THIRDS TWO YEARS AGO. BECAUSE THE COURT OF ENGINEERS HAS STEPPED UP A 1999 AGREEMENT, WE HAVE NEVER USED ANY OF THE MST YOU MONEY, WITH THE EXCEPTION OF SOME MIGHT -- DOLLARS WE USED TO PAY FOR SOME ENGINEERING STUDIES. THE MONEY IS SITTING THERE. AND TO USE SOME OF IT NOW IS TO BE RELATIVELY APPROPRIATE. THE QUESTION IS, BEING IT WILL NEVER PAY HOW MUCH IS IN THERE, AND WHAT WE ARE GOING TO DO WITH THAT MONEY. THE TAX APPLIES TO EVERYONE ON THE ISLAND WITH THE EXCEPTION OF -- IT IS SOMETHING YOU NEED TO THINK ABOUT IN THE FUTURE.

WHICH BRINGS ME TO THE SECOND QUESTION. THERE ARE LOADS OF MONEY SITTING IN THE TAMPA CITY BEACH FIND, MILLIONS OF DOLLARS THERE. I THINK BEFORE I LEFT, WE APPROVE PROJECTS TO HAVE THAT HAPPEN. THAT IS MONEY, 50 THOUSAND IS OKAY. IF YOU LOOK AT NORTH BEACH PARK, THAT PROJECT IS PROBABLY $1 MILLION ALONE. THIS IS SOMETHING THAT MIGHT BE WORTH LOOKING AT.

WORKSHOPS WHERE YOU CAN DISCUSS THAT ISSUE ON WHERE WE ARE GOING. THERE IS MONEY SITTING THERE AND WE ARE NOT USING IT.

WE HAVE TO THINK ABOUT WHAT IS GOING TO HAPPEN. WE WOULD DO A FULL NURSE MID NEXT YEAR. THANKS TO THE NAVY AND HURRICANE MONEY WILL NOT COST US ANYTHING. TDC CAME UP WITH MONEY IN 2008, $32 MILLION. IT ORIGINALLY CAME UP WITH $700,000, REDUCED TO $300,000. THERE IS NO REAL AGREEMENT PER

SE. >> VICE MAYOR, THANK YOU FOR BEING WITH US. TO BE CLEAR FOR TONIGHT, YOU DO RECOMMEND?

>> YES, THE MONEY IS THERE. AND I THANK YOU. WITH THAT, DO I

HEAR A MOTION? >> TAXPAYERS PUT THIS MONEY INTO A FIND? TO CONTINUE TO UPGRADE THE WATER -- FIND. AND NOW THE COUNTY COMMISSION IS GOING TO GIVE US OUR OWN MONEY BACK? I AM TRANQUIL FOR THAT. -- THANKFUL FOR THAT. WHY ONLY

$50,000? >> IN THE LATEST ORDINANCE, THAT IS THE CAP UNTIL THE FUNDS REPLENISH -- SHOULD THE COURT NOT FIND THE ROOT NOURISHMENT, WE WOULD HAVE THAT MONEY TO

HANDLE THAT. >> RIGHT NOW IT IS CAPPED UNTIL THE FUND CAN BE HEALTHY ENOUGH. AS MENTIONED, THE FUND IS

AROUND $2.4 MILLION NOW. >> I WILL SUPPORT THIS. IT IS NICE THERE GIVING US ACCESS TO OUR OWN MONEY.

>> COMMISSIONER AYSCUE? >> I THINK I'M GOING TO STAY SEATED. I HAVE TO GIVE A BIG SHOUT OUT TO THE NASSAU COUNTY BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS -- SPECIFICALLY -- HIM AND I SAT TOGETHER AS THE IDEA CAME THROUGH. I HAD A CONVERSATION WITH MR. LANGLEY. AND SOME OTHER INDIVIDUALS TO BRAINSTORM HOW THE IDEA WOULD WORK. WE SAT DOWN EARLY AND -- IN 2023.

WHICH GOES TO SHOW YOU HOW LONG IT HAS TAKEN TO GET TO THIS POINT. I JUST CANNOT THANK THEM ENOUGH FOR GOING THROUGH THE PROCESS THEY HAD TO GO THROUGH TO ALLOW THIS TO HAPPEN. THIS IS NOT INSIGNIFICANT. THIS IS MONEY THAT IS BEING TAXED, IT IS THERE IN CASE THERE IS AN EMERGENCY. WE HAVE A MASSIVE STORM THAT WE HAVE TO HAVE FUNDS. WE HAVE TO MATCH. THIS IS WHITE IT IS HERE. WANT TO GET AN OVERAGE, TO HAVE THE ABILITY TO -- IS MONUMENTAL. THIS IS HUGE. THIS IS COUNTY AND CITY WORKING TOGETHER LIKE NEVER BEFORE. THIS IS AN ABSOLUTE AMAZING PROJECT. HUGE KUDOS FOR THE PROCESS THEY HAD TO GO THROUGH. MISS DENISE MAY, THEY HAD TO RESEARCH IT, THEY

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>> THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER AYSCUE. I WILL GO ALONG WITH WHAT YOU'RE SAYING. IT HAS BEEN NO SECRET THAT IN THE YEARS PAST, THE CITY AND COUNTY HAVE BUT TED. SOMETHING I HAVE SEEN THIS COMMISSION DO, WE HAVE A BETTER RELATIONSHIP WITH NASSAU COUNTY THEN WE HAVE EVER HAD BEFORE. YOU HAVE SEEN IT MULTIPLE TIMES. ABOUT EVERY MEETING, WE HAVE A DEAL WHERE WE ARE WORKING TOGETHER WITH THE COUNTY. THAT IS WHAT THE PUBLIC WANTS TO SEE. THE CITY AND COUNTY WORKING TOGETHER, NOT SEPARATELY. THANK YOU FOR YOUR WORK TO HELP THE SETUP.

AND THANK YOU TO NASSAU COUNTY FOR THE WORK THEY ARE DOING.

>> I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE ONE COMMENT.

>> COMMISSIONER ROSS, GO AHEAD.

>> $50,000 WORTH OF OUR MONEY BACK. I APPRECIATE THAT. I WOULD LIKE TO POINT OUT, ABOUT 12% OF THE COUNTY POPULATION, THE CITY OF FERNANDINA BEACH PRODUCES 24% OF THE TAX OF THIS COUNTY. AND THIS ISLAND PRODUCES OVER 50% OF THE TAX IN THIS COUNTY. I THINK THE MONEY IS LONG OVERDUE, AND MUCH MORE OF THE MONEY SHOULD BE COMING TO US THAN THE AMOUNT IT IS. I APPLAUD THEM FOR DOING WHAT THEY HAVE DONE. I APPRECIATE IT. BUT I THINK IT IS LONG OVERDUE. AND WE SHOULD BE

GETTING MUCH MORE MONEY. >> ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER ROSS. I WILL AND ON MY NOTE AGAIN. THANK YOU TO

THE COUNTY. >>

[5.9 VOLUNTARY ANNEXATION AGREEMENT - 1317 NORTH PIKE LANE - RESOLUTION 2024-123 APPROVING THE EXTENSION OF WASTEWATER SERVICES OUTSIDE THE CORPORATE LIMITS; ACCEPTING THE VOLUNTARY ANNEXATION PETITION FOR ONE PARCEL CONTAINING APPROXIMATELY 0.25 ACRES OF LAND LOCATED AT 1317 NORTH PIKE LANE; AUTHORIZING EXECUTION; AND PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE. Synopsis: Authorizes the extension of wastewater services to the property owner identified whose property is located at 1317 North Pike Lane, Parcel Number: 00-00-30-0411-0039-0000 and also approves the Voluntary Annexation Petition.]

>> YES, IT PASSES 4-0. HEADING DOWN TO 5.9, VOLUNTARY ANNEXATION AGREEMENT FOR 1317 NORTH PIKE LANE. COME ON DOWN.

>> THIS IS AN ANNEXATION AGREEMENT. IT IS CONTIGUOUS UNTIL SEPTEMBER AFTER WE CERTIFY THE ELECTION SO ALL REGISTERED VOTERS CAN -- THIS IS A NEED FOR A CONNECTION TO SEWER BECAUSE OF A SEPTIC TANK FAILURE. STAFF RECOMMENDS

APPROVAL. >> ANY QUESTIONS WHAT ? DO I HEAR A MOTION? I HEAR A MOTION AND A SECOND. COMMISSIONER DISCUSSION? I WILL REITERATE, THEY ARE AGREEING TO JOIN THE CITY. THEY JUST CANNOT DO IT UNTIL AFTER THE ELECTION. WE AGREED WITH THE SUPERVISOR OF ELECTION THAT WILL KEEP OUR CITY BORDERS THE SAME UNTIL DECEMBER. PLEASE CALL THE ROLL.

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[5.10 AMENDING CITY COMMISSION RULES OF PROCEDURE - RESOLUTION 2024-124 AMENDING THE CITY COMMISSION RULES OF PROCEDURE BY MODIFYING PROVISIONS RELATED TO PLACEMENT OF ITEMS ON THE CITY COMMISSION REGULAR MEETING AGENDAS; “TOWN HALL” MEETINGS OF THE CITY COMMISSION; AND PROVIDING THAT PUBLIC COMMENT FOR ITEMS NOT ON THE AGENDA BE HEARD AT THE BEGINNING OF REGULAR MEETINGS; AND PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE. Synopsis: This Resolution proposes amendments to the City Commission Rules of Procedure: to modify how items are placed on Regular Meeting agendas; designating the first Tuesday of each month be reserved for Commissioner workshop discussion items; designating the third Tuesday of each month be reserved for citizen comments and questions in a town hall-style meeting; and for public comment for items not on the agenda be heard at the beginning of the meeting following presentations and proclamations.]

>> BASED ON DIRECTION WE HAD AT A WORKSHOP LEE, THERE ARE THREE ISSUES THAT ARE UP FOR DISCUSSION. AND THROUGH STRIKETHROUGH'S AND UNDERLINED IN FRONT OF YOU, ARE THE RECOMMENDED CHANGES. FIRST, PUBLIC COMMENT FOR ITEMS NOT ON AN AGENDA AT A REGULAR COMMISSION MEETING LIKE THIS ONE . IT WAS OUR UNDERSTANDING THAT THE MAJORITY OF THE CITY COMMISSION DID NOT WANT TO MOVE PUBLIC COMMENT FROM THE END TO THE BEGINNING. SO IT IS LEFT UNCHANGED, PUBLIC COMMENT FOR ITEMS NOT ON THE AGENDA REMAINS AT THE END OF THE AGENDA. THAT IS WHAT IS IN FRONT OF YOU. THE OTHER IS A DESIRE TO DISCUSS HAVING TOWN HALL MEETINGS FOR PUBLIC INPUT , AND THAT IS NOT A CHANGE IN THE RULES OR PROCEDURE. BECAUSE WE DID NOT SEE A MAJORITY OF THE CITY COMMISSIONERS WANTED TOWN HALL MEETINGS. AND THE LAST CHANGE, A LITTLE MORE COMPLICATED, AND WE WILL DECIDE ON THE LANGUAGE. IT IS HOW ITEMS GET ONTO A REGULAR VOTING AGENDA . THAT IS FIRST, THE MAYOR THEMSELVES CAN

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>> ANY QUESTIONS? >> FOR CLARIFICATION PURPOSES, AND I KNOW WE HAVE DISCUSSED THAT. A COMMISSIONER WILL COME TO A WORKSHOP AND PLAY SOMETHING ON THE WORKSHOP AGENDA. AND THEN LET'S SAY THERE ARE NOT THREE TO MOVE IT FORWARD. BUT THERE WERE TWO , WHAT WOULD PROHIBIT A COMMISSIONER FROM GOING TO COMMISSIONER -- AND SAY, I WANT

TO PUT ON THE AGENDA. >> NOTHING PREVENTS THAT.

>> THERE IS A CONFLICT IN THAT THOUGHT PROCESS THAT NEEDS TO BE RECTIFIED. WHEN IT COMES TO PLACING ITEMS ON THE AGENDA. IT DOES NOT BOTHER ME WHICH WAY. POINT BEING IS, HAVING A MAJORITY MOVING FORWARD OUT OF WORKSHOP DOES NOT MAKE SENSE IF THERE ARE TWO IN THE WORKSHOP THAT WANT TO DO IT AND ONE CAN

BRING IT UP -- >> AS WRITTEN , THE ONLY CHANGES ARE HOW THINGS GET ON THE AGENDA.

>> YES. >> WITH THEIR ONLY BEING FOUR OF US TONIGHT. THERE IS NO CHANGE, RIGHT?

>> YES, NOTHING HAPPENS. >> I DO WANT TO DO SOMETHING. I WILL SEE LATER. I WILL LET YOU KNOW I HAVE AN IDEA. I HAVE A SOLUTION THAT I THINK WILL WORK FOR ALL OF THIS. I CANNOT WAIT TO PRESENT THAT YOU IN JUST A SECOND. FIRST, LET'S GO TO

COMMISSIONER ANTUN. >> I WILL HEAR YOUR SOLUTION FIRST. THE ONE THING I DID WANT TO SAY IS, I WOULD LIKE TO BELIEVE THAT WE ARE ALL REASONABLE PEOPLE -- THERE IS NOT A REASON TO REPETITIVELY BRING THINGS UP. I COULD BE WRONG. WHEN THE WRITING IS ON THE WALL, I AM NOT INTERESTED IN MAKING A MEETING TAKE ANY LONGER. MY INTEREST IS THERE ANOTHER CONSTITUENTS THAT HAD GIVEN ME STRONG FEEDBACK -- SAYS HE WILL CONTINUE TO PUSH FOR SOME OF THESE ELEMENTS. MY INTEREST WAS ADVOCATING ON THE BEHALF OF A --

>> HERE'S WHAT I AM THINKING. WE HAVE A WORKSHOP ONCE A MONTH AT THIS POINT IN TIME. TONIGHT WOULD HAVE BEEN THE NIGHT WE HAVE OUR WORKSHOP. HOWEVER, WE HAD NO COMMISSIONER ITEMS TO DISCUSS. WHAT WE HAVE DONE IN THE PAST, I WANT TO REITERATE, WE DO HAVE A LOT OF PLACES FOR PUBLIC COMMENT. WE HAVE PUBLIC COMMENT ON EVERY SINGLE VOTING ITEM. IF WE WILL TAKE A VOTE, THERE IS A PUBLIC COMMENT. JUST LIKE I WE HAD -- THERE IS A VOTE ON MTSU TAX DOLLARS, WE WILL HAVE PUBLIC COMMENT ON EVERY ITEM. IF THE ITEM IS NOT ON THE AGENDA AT ONE OF OUR FULL MEETINGS, WE HAVE ARE NOT ON THE AGENDA ITEM FOR ANYTHING. WE HAVE IT EVERY SINGLE MEETING WE HAD. WE HAVE TWO A MONTH. THE HISTORY ON THE WORKSHOPS, WE KNOW THIS UP HERE, THE REASON WE HAVE WORKSHOPS IS BECAUSE WE WANTED OPPORTUNITY , WITH THE SUNSHINE LAW, WE CANNOT CALL EACH OTHER.

HOW CAN WE DISCUSSED THINGS? THE WAY WE DO THAT IS HAVE A WORKSHOP WHERE WE CAN MEET AND DISCUSS. BECAUSE WE HAVE TO HAVE CAMERAS ON US AND SOMEONE TAKING MINUTE TO DISCUSS THINGS. WHAT WE HAVE DONE, WHAT I HAVE DONE IN THE PAST, WHEN WE HAVE EXTRA TIME AT WORKSHOPS. WE HAVE OPEN IT UP AT THAT POINT IN TIME FOR ADDITIONAL PUBLIC COMMENT, BECAUSE WE ARE HERE ANYWAY. I HAVE GOT MULTIPLE BIRDS WITH ONE STONE HERE. THIS COULD ADDRESS A LOT OF CONCERNS. I

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WORKSHOPS, OF COURSE, WORKSHOPS ARE NONVOTING ITEMS. THAT IS FOR TALKING AMONGST OURSELVES. AT THE END OF EVERY WORKSHOP, I WOULD LIKE TO IMPLEMENT THE PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD. I WOULD LIKE TO GUARANTEE A MINIUM -- I WANT TO SAY WE WILL MAKE THE WORKSHOP BUSINESS MOTION LAST UP TO 45 MINUTES. AT A MINIMUM, WE WILL HAVE 15 MINUTES. THE WAY WORKSHOPS GO, TONIGHT THERE WAS NOT A SINGLE ITEM. MOST TIMES THERE IS ONLY ONE, MAYBE THREE ITEMS ON A WORKSHOP AGENDA. SO WE END UP WITH PERIODS OF 30 MINUTES WHERE WE ARE NOT DOING PEOPLE'S BUSINESS. WE ARE HERE, BUT NOT WORKING FOR THE PEOPLE. WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO IMPLEMENT, AND LET ME TELL YOU THE BENEFIT.

BENEFIT NUMBER ONE, THIS WOULD ACT -- I HEAR PEOPLE ASKING FOR SOMETHING LIKE A TOWN HALL. A SIMILAR OPPORTUNITY TO GET PUBLIC COMMENT. AND THAT WOULD BE A POINT IN TIME. ANON AGENDA ITEM PUBLIC COMMENT. IN THE TIME WE ARE HERE ALREADY.

SECOND OF ALL, THAT WOULD ADDRESS THIS OTHER CAN LEARN ABOUT HAVING PUBLIC COMMENT NOT ON THE AGENDA. KEEP IN MIND, PUBLIC COMMENTS HAPPEN THROUGHOUT THE ENTIRE MEETING.

>> THERE ARE MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC AND ASKED FOR THINGS THAT ARE NOT SCHEDULED. WHAT THIS WOULD DO, THIS WOULD PROVIDE THE OPPORTUNITY FOR NON- AGENDA ITEMS TO GO AHEAD OF THE ENTIRE MEETING. THIS WILL BE MULTIPLE THINGS I THINK THE PUBLIC IS ASKING FOR. I WANT TO HEAR WHAT CITY COMMISSION HEARS ABOUT THAT THAT BOTH FEEL ABOUT THAT? WHAT

DO YOU GUYS THINK? >> I THINK THAT -- THE ISSUE WE ARE TALKING ABOUT. FIRST ISSUE, IS COMMENT. CORRECT ME IF I AM WRONG, WHAT WE HAD AGREED TO, AND WHAT THIS WOULD REFLECT, HIS TWO CITY COMMISSIONERS, BOTH MYSELF AND COMMISSIONER ANTUN WANTED TO CHANGE THE TIME OF THE PUBLIC COMMENT NOT ON THE AGENDA TO THE BEGINNING OF THE MEETING. BECAUSE THREE OTHERS DID NOT WANT TO DO IT, THAT WAS EXCLUDED. THAT IS NOT WHAT I THOUGHT WOULD HAPPEN. I WANTED TO VOTE ON THAT. NUMBER TWO, I THINK A TOWN HALL PUBLIC MEETING IS QUITE DIFFERENT THAN HAVING 10 OR 15 MINUTES AT THE END OF SOME MEETING. IT IS DEDICATED TO THAT, IT IS A TOWN HALL, ANYONE CAN COME. NUMBER THREE, I AM OPPOSED TO THE MAYOR BEING ABLE TO PUT SOMETHING ON THE AGENDA. THE MAYOR HAS NO MORE POWER THAN ANYONE ELSE. IF THE MAYOR CAN PUT SOMETHING ON THE AGENDA, AND HE COMMISSIONERS SHOULD BE ABLE TO. I DON'T THINK THE MAYOR SHOULD BE GIVEN ANY SPECIAL POWERS. YOU ARE A LET DID AS A CITY COMMISSIONER, AND WILL HAVE THE SAME RIGHTS AS THE CITY COMMISSIONER, EXCEPT THAT YOU RUN THE MEETING. THAT IS THE ONLY THING. IF THE MAYOR IS ABLE TO PUT SOMETHING ON THE AGENDA, ONE CITY COMMISSIONER SHOULD BE ABLE TO PUT SOMETHING ON THE AGENDA. IF IT TAKES TWO COMMISSIONERS, I'M THE MAYOR SHOULD NOT GET -- NUMBER THREE, WHAT THIS DOES NOT ADDRESS IS MOST OF THE ITEMS ARE PUT ON THE AGENDA BY STAFF ANYHOW. AND I DO NOT THINK THAT ANY STAFF MEMBER -- RIGHT NOW, THE WAY IT IS, WITHOUT A STAFF -- A STAFF MEMBER CAN PUT SOMETHING ON THE AGENDA. PARKS AND REX CAN PUT SOMETHING ON THE AGENDA.AND WIDEST OF PARKS AND RECREATION PERSON HAVE THE POSSIBILITY TO DO SOMETHING THAT CITY COMMISSION CANNOT. I THINK THOSE ARE IN PRO -- IMPORTANT ISSUE THAN WHAT THIS DOES IS IT

-- I WILL VOTE AGAINST THIS. >> I THINK YOUR IDEA OF 10 OR 15 MINUTES AT THE END OF A WORKSHOP IS NOT THE SAME AS

HAVING A TOWN HALL. >> THANK YOU FOR YOUR THOUGHTS, COMMISSIONER ROSS. THERE WERE FOUR POINT THERE. I CAN ADDRESS

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ALL OF THE. I WILL. >> LET'S GO FIRST TWO,

COMMISSIONER ANTUN. >> I DON'T REALLY HAVE A PERSONAL PREFERENCE. I THINK IT SHOULD BE THAT THE PUBLIC FEEDBACK DRIVES WITH THE WORKSHOP CAN BE. AND WHAT WE DECIDE TO DO. OUR CITIZENS HAVE CONCERNS, OR POTENTIALLY INPUT ON PROJECTS. WE CAN GET THAT FEEDBACK AND THEN WE CAN -- ARGUABLY, WE COULD HAVE IT BE ONE MEETING A MONTH AND NOT TWO. WE CAN HAVE 30 MINUTES A TOWN HALL, 30 MINUTES OF WORKSHOP. IF WE CAN SIT THERE AND TAKE THE CITIZENS FEEDBACK AND LET THAT DRIVE THE AGENDA, I PERSONALLY WOULD LOVE TO LEARN MORE ABOUT WHAT PEOPLE THINK BEFORE WE VOTE ON IT AND HERE'S SOME THING THAT SO SOME PEOPLE MIGHT BE UPSET.

>> COMMISSIONER ANTUN, I HEAR WHAT YOU ARE SAYING. I FEEL LIKE WE ARE ALMOST THERE. IF SOMEONE WISHES TO PUT SOMETHING ON, AND THIS IS SOMETHING I HAVE DONE MANY TIMES. IF A CITIZEN WISHES TO TALK ON SOMETHING, IF SOMEONE CALLED ME WITH AN ISSUE, I WILL PUT IT ON A WORKSHOP FOR DISCUSSION. AND THEN WE HAVE THAT DISCUSSION. WITH THIS CHANGE, WE WOULD HAVE A PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD AFTER THAT. MY QUESTION IS, HOW IS WHAT YOU ARE DESCRIBING DIFFERENT THAN WHAT I AM DESCRIBING? I AM DESCRIBING A PLACE WERE ANY COMMISSION CAN BRING ANYTHING FORWARD THAT COULD BE OUT HERE FOR THE PUBLIC. WE HAVE THAT OPEN WORKSHOP. ANY SINGLE COMMISSIONER COULD BRING IDEAS, WE CAN LET THEM FREE FLOW AS WE DO. AND THEN WE HAVE A PERIOD OF PUBLIC COMMENT. HOW IS WHAT

YOU ARE DESCRIBING DIFFERENT? >> FOR THE EXAMPLE THIS EVENING. WE DID NOT HAVE A TOPIC, SO WE CANCELED THE WORKSHOP. IF WE HAD IT AS A STANDARD -- AND IF THERE IS, IT

FLOWS RIGHT INTO THE AGENDA. >> ALLOW ME TO BE MORE CLEAR.

PART OF WHAT I WAS MEETING IS IF THERE WAS NO TOPIC, LIKE TONIGHT, WE WOULD STILL MEET FOR THE WORKSHOP AND IT WOULD

BE ALL PUBLIC COMMENT. >> IF TWO PEOPLE NEED TO SPEAK, LET THEM SPEAK. IF THERE ARE SUWANEE AND THEY WANT TO TALK ABOUT WHAT WE VOTED ON, I BELIEVE THERE IS VALUE IN LETTING THEM SPEAK ABOUT THAT. AND I THINK IT WILL REDUCE PUBLIC COMMENT FOR ITEMS NOT ON THE AGENDA. AND SAVE US SOME

TIME. >> IT SOUNDS LIKE WE AGREE. IF

WE HAVE ITEMS TO SPEAK ON -- >> IF YOU HAD SOMETHING IN PARTICULAR TO TALK ABOUT, YOU WOULD ADDED TO THE AGENDA. AND IF IT'S ONE OR TWO ITEMS, MOST OF THE MEETING WOULD BE JUST FOR GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT. IF WE HAVE NO ITEMS, THE ENTIRE MEETING WOULD BE GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT. IT SOUNDS LIKE WE ARE

THERE. >> I WOULD AGREE THE CONTINGENCY WOULD -- THREE MINUTES FOR SPEAKING. AND I DON'T KNOW HOW THIS GETS CODIFIED. BUT SOME WAY FOR MENTORS IN BUSINESS TELL ME IF A STAFFER WILL COME WITH A COMPLAINT, BRING A SOLUTION. WE SHOULD CHALLENGE OUR CITIZENS WHO HAVE CONCERNS OR COMPLAINTS, WE WOULD WELCOME THAT YOU COME ON WITH A SOLUTION AS WELL. THAT WOULD SAVE A LOT OF DISCUSSION FOR THINK THE PEOPLE ARE

INAUDIBLE ] >> IT SOUNDS LIKE WE'RE ON THE SAME PAGE. I THINK THIS WOULD ADDRESS WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT. LET'S GO TO COMMISSIONER AYSCUE.

>> I AGREE WITH THE MAYOR. I'VE NEVER HAD A PROBLEM WITH THERE BEING PUBLIC COMMENT AFTER THE WORKSHOP. I HAVE NO ISSUE WITH THAT. THAT HAS NEVER BEEN AN ISSUE. IT HAS BEEN IN THE RULES FOREVER. I HAVE NEVER HAD AN ISSUE. HOWEVER, THE COMMISSIONER BRING SOMETHING FORWARD ON THE WORKSHOP. WE SHOULD DISCUSS THAT FIRST BEFORE THERE IS PUBLIC COMMENT.

AS THE MAYOR SAID, THE REASON WE HAVE WORKSHOPS IN THE FIRST PLACE IS BECAUSE OF SUNSHINE. AS LONG AS WE WORK EVERYTHING OUT THAT WE NEED TO WORK OUT, EVEN IF IT WAS JUST A 10 MINUTE WORKSHOP, SHORT. WE ARE ALREADY HERE, IT DOES NOT BOTHER ME.

THE MAYOR HAS DONE IT PLENTY OF TIMES. HE SAYS, IS ANY COMMISSION OR HAVE ANYTHING? I HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH THAT. IF IT LOOKS LIKE IT IS RUNNING LONG, THE MAYOR STOPS IT. THE LAST 15 MINUTES, WE GET FEEDBACK. MORE THAN LIKELY, I WOULD HOPE THAT FEEDBACK WOULD BE ON THE AGENDA ITEMS ON THE WORKSHOP. IT DOES NOT REALLY HAVE TO BE. I'VE GOT NO ISSUES WITH WHAT THE MAYOR IS PROPOSING. IT IS NOT A PROBLEM

AT ALL FOR ME. >> PERFECT. I THINK WE CAN ALL

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IT WOULD ADDRESS THE PUBLIC COMMENT IN MULTIPLE PLACES, IT WOULD BE ANOTHER OPPORTUNITY FOR THE PUBLIC TO COMMENT. I WOULD BE FINE ADDING THIS TO THE AGENDA TONIGHT. AS AN

AMENDMENT TO THIS ITEM. >> I WAS GOING TO CLARIFY FOR

YOU FIRST-PERIOD >> WE KEEP SAYING PUBLIC COMMENT. THAT IS NOT WHAT A TOWN HALL IS ALL ABOUT. TOWN HALL, PEOPLE CAN COME AND ASK WHAT SHOULD. THAT IS NOT PUBLIC COMMENT. COMMENT, YOU GET UP AND SAY SOMETHING. WHAT I THOUGHT WE WERE ENVISIONING IS CITIZENS ASKING THE CITY COMMISSIONERS QUESTION. HOW DO YOU FEEL ABOUT THIS? HOW DO YOU FEEL ABOUT THAT? THAT IS WHAT I ENVISIONED AS A TOWN HALL MEETING. IS NOT ANOTHER COMMENT REVIEW, PEOPLE CAN COMMENT ALL THE TIME. THERE IS NO QUESTION ABOUT THAT. THE QUESTION IS, SOMEONE ASKED A QUESTION AND THEY WERE TOLD THEY CANNOT ASK THE QUESTION. I WANT THE CITIZENS TO HAVE AN ABILITY OF A PUBLIC MEETING IN SAYING, COMMISSIONER ROSS, COMMISSIONER COMMISSIONER ANTUN -- I WANT TO KNOW WHAT YOUR THOUGHTS ARE ON THIS ISSUE. THAT IS WHAT A TOWN HALL IS TO ME. IT IS NOT TALKING ABOUT SOME PACIFIC -- THAT IS WHAT I HAD ENVISIONED.

APPARENTLY THAT IS NOT WHAT YOU ENVISIONED. TO BE HONEST, WHEN OUR REPRESENTATIVE HAS THE TOWN HALL, HE WILL ASK QUESTIONS.

THAT IS WHAT I ENVISIONED. APPARENTLY THAT IS NOT WHAT YOU

ENVISION. >> I WILL GO FIRST AND SAY, THANK YOU FOR ONCE AGAIN BRING UP OUR U.S. REPRESENTATIVE. IF WHAT YOU ARE DESCRIBING AS A TOWN HALL IS A TOWN, WHICH IS WHERE CONGRESSMAN -- TAKES QUESTIONS OVER THE PHONE, THAT IS ONE OF US GOES TO A PLACE AND IS AVAILABLE TO ANSWER QUESTIONS. THAT IS SOMETHING I DO ALL THE TIME. PACIFICALLY, THE ONE I HIGHLIGHTED IN THE COUNCIL OF AGING. I AM AVAILABLE AS AN ASK OF THE MAYOR SESSION. AND I AM AVAILABLE TO ANSWER QUESTIONS. AND I DO. THAT IS A TOWN HALL.

I HAVE MY OWN TOWN HALL WHEN I ANSWER QUESTIONS ALL THE TIME.

WE DO THIS. FURTHERMORE, WHAT I WOULD SAY IS, THE PUBLIC IS ALWAYS ABLE TO ASK QUESTIONS. THE PUBLIC IS ALWAYS ABLE. NO ONE IS FORCED TO ANSWER. JUST LIKE, THE RIGHT TO FREEDOM OF SPEECH INCLUDES THE RIGHTS TO HAVE THE FREEDOM TO NOT SPEAK.

THAT IS THERE TOO. WE DON'T HAVE A WAY TO FORCE YOU, FORCE COMMISSIONER ANTUN , OR COMMISSIONER AYSCUE TECH ANSWER ANYTHING. ANY MEMBER THAT WANTS TO COME AND USE THE TIME TO ANSWER -- ASK QUESTIONS, THEY'RE MORE THAN WELCOME TO.

AS I HAVE DONE MANY TIMES IN THE PAST, WE ANSWER THEM IN THE NORMAL PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD. AND THANK YOU FOR SAYING THAT.

WE DO HAVE LOTS OF PUBLIC COMMENT. WE DO ANSWER QUESTIONS. WE DO IT EVERY MEETING. YOU HAVE ANSWERED TOO.

I DO NOT UNDERSTAND HOW THIS WOULD NOT BE WHAT YOU ARE DESCRIBING. THIS IS A PERIOD OF TIME WITH THE PUBLIC CAN COME.

IF THEY CHOOSE, THEY CAN ASK QUESTIONS, MAKE STATEMENTS, THEY CAN DO IT ALL. I THINK IT WOULD ANSWER QUESTIONS.

COMMISSIONER AYSCUE, WHAT HAVE YOU GOT?

>> I DO NOT SEE HOW IT'S FEASIBLE TO HOLD A TOWN HALL WITH FIVE PEOPLE. I DON'T KNOW. I DON'T UNDERSTAND HOW IT EVEN WORKS. FROM A SIMPLE STANDPOINT OF, COMMISSIONER ANTUN HAS A DIFFERENT IDEA THAN ME. NOT SAYING IT'S A BAD IDEA, IF YOU BRING A QUESTION OR STATEMENT, YOU SHOULD BRING SOME SOLUTION.

FOR ME, ARE WE GOING TO BOX IN WHAT CAN BE ASKED? OR IS IT

JUST ANYTHING? >> DO WE MEAN RELEVANT TO THE

CITY BUSINESS? >> OKAY. WHO MAKES THE DETERMINATION IT'S RELEVANT TO CITY BUSINESS?

>> CITIZENS. >> SO THEY ARE ABLE TO ASK ANY QUESTION. THEY CAN ESSENTIALLY ASK YOUR POSITION ON ABORTION?

>> THAT IS NOT A CITY ISSUE. I HAVE NO JURISDICTION.

>> BUT YOU'D SAY THE CITY'S -- CITIZENS DECIDE.

>> I WILL ANSWER, THAT IS NOT THE JURISDICTION OF THE CITY

AND I WILL NOT ANSWER. >> EACH INDIVIDUAL COMMISSIONER WOULD MAKE A DETERMINATION ON WHETHER THAT QUESTION IS

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RELEVANT OR NOT. >> THAT IS THEIR CHOICE.

>> SO CAN A CITIZEN -- ARE THEY ABLE TO ASK JUST ONE COMMISSIONER A QUESTION ? IN OTHER WORDS, THEY FORBADE ANY

OTHER COMMISSIONER? >> THEY ARE NOT FORGETTING ANYBODY, THEY CAN SAY I HAVE -- I DO NOT HAVE A PROBLEM WITH

THAT. >> HOW LONG ARE WE GOING TO ALLOW THE SPEAKER WHO IS ASKING THE QUESTION TO SPEAK? IS THERE

A TIME LIMIT ? >> WE CAN PUT A TIME LIMIT ON

IT. >> I WOULD BE OPEN TO STRUCTURING IT THE SAME WAY WE ALLOW COMMENTS NOW.

>> HOW LONG DOES EACH INDIVIDUAL COMMISSIONER HAVE TO

RESPOND? >> LET ME FINISH. AS THE MAYOR SAID -- IS THE ACTUAL

>> TWO OR THREE MINUTES? THAT IS 13 MINUTES FOR QUESTIONS

POTENTIALLY. >> CAN YOU PLEASE NOT COMMENT

FROM THE GALLERY, THANK YOU. >> THERE ARE FIVE QUESTIONS, IF YOU'VE COMMISSIONER -- EACH COMMISSIONER TAKES

] >> AND THEN WE LOSE THE

WORKSHOP ABILITY. >> I SAID THERE SHOULD BE A

MONTHLY TOWN HALL MEETING. >> LET'S BRING THIS BACK HOME.

I THINK WE HAVE A POSSIBLE SOLUTION.

>> AND I AGREE WITH THE SOLUTION. I WANT TO POINT OUT A COUPLE OF THINGS. THIS IS BEYOND MY COMPREHENSION.

BECAUSE I GREW UP IN NORTHEAST FLORIDA MY ENTIRE LIFE. I'VE NEVER SEEN ANYTHING WERE ALL FIVE TOGETHER AND THERE ARE QUESTIONS ASKED OF ALL FIVE. I'VE BEEN A PART OF NASSAU COUNTY POLITICS FOR A LONG TIME. I HAVE NEVER SEEN THIS HAPPEN. THIS IS FOREIGN TO ME TO UNDERSTAND HOW IT EVEN WORKS. WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE SCHOOL BOARD, FOR INSTANCE.

THIS IS SOMETHING WE NEED TO CHANGE AND ADDRESS. IF SOMEONE COMES DURING THE PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD AND ASK A QUESTION, ALMOST NINE TIMES OUT OF 10, PROBABLY MORE SO, ALL MEMBERS DO NOT ANSWER THE QUESTION. -- STEPS IN HER ANSWERS THE QUESTION. OR IT IS -- TO THE SUPERINTENDENT. FOR ALL INTENTS AND PURPOSES, IT IS OUR CITY MANAGER. IT'S ALMOST EXCLUSIVELY NOT ANSWERED BY THE COMMISSION. MR. DENISE MAY STEPS IN AND SAYS, HOLD ON, LET ME ANSWER THAT QUESTION FOR YOU. OR THEY DEFER TO THE COUNTY MANAGEMENT. THEY DO FOR A MULTITUDE OF REASONS. IT IS NOT BECAUSE THE SCHOOL BOARD DOES NOT WANT TO ACT. THEY DO IT TO ANSWER THE QUESTIONS MORE PROPERLY. THEY ALSO DO IT , TO A CERTAIN DEGREE, TO KEEP US FROM SAYING SOMETHING WE SHOULD NOT. IF SOMEONE GETS UP HERE AND ASKED, WHAT DO WE THINK ABOUT -- AND WE OPEN IT UP AGAIN AND GET SUED, AGAIN, THAT IS WHY A LOT OF THOSE ANSWERS HAPPEN. AND THAT IS WHY I BELIEVE ONE CHANGE WE NEED TO HAVE HAPPEN TONIGHT IS THE CITY ATTORNEY AND THE CITY MANAGER SITTING UP HERE TO BE ABLE TO CUT SOME OF THOSE QUESTIONS OFF THAT CAN PUT US IN TROUBLE. I AM FINE WITH THE PUBLIC COMMENT AS YOU STATED, MAYOR. THERE IS ONE AGENDA ITEM ON THE WORKSHOP, IT TAKES FIVE MINUTES. WERE SPENDING 55 MINUTES YEAR. A LOT OF THE OTHER THINGS, -- I AM JUST NOT

IN FAVOR OF. >> WITH THAT IN MIND, WE WILL NEED AN AMENDMENT IN ORDER TO DO THAT THING. -- BE QUICK. I WANT TO GO THROUGH THE PUBLIC COMMENT FIRST-PERIOD

>> COMMISSIONER ROSS BROUGHT IT UP. THE CITY CLERK AND I WORKED TOGETHER ON THESE RESOLUTIONS BASED ON THE FEEDBACK WE GAVE.

WE HAVE -- THE DEPUTY COVER OUR LAST MEETING. AT THE WORKSHOP, IT WAS I BELIEVE COMMISSIONER ANTUN AND COMMISSIONER ROSS SAYING, IF TWO CAN PUT SOMETHING ON THE AGENDA, WE WANT TO THE TOWN HALL MEETINGS THE THIRD TUESDAY OF THE MONTH.

AND MOVE PUBLIC COMMENT BACK TO THE FRONT OF THE AGENDA. THE WAY THE RESOLUTION, RATHER THAN DOING THREE DIFFERENT RESOLUTIONS, WE WROTE IT UP AS IF THAT IS YOUR RESOLUTION. SO FOR COMMISSIONER AYSCUE, YOU MADE IT CLEAR YOU DO NOT WANT

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COMMISSIONERS -- >> I AM NOT UNDERSTANDING.

>> YOU NEED TO GO TO THE RULES . I THINK THE SECOND PAGE OF THE ROOF. IT HAS UNDERLINED LANGUAGE. ONE SAYS, WORKSHOP.

WE SHALL HAVE A WORKSHOP ON THE FIRST TUESDAY OF EVERY MONTH, AND THAT CITY COMMISSIONERS CAN COUNSEL THEM IF WE DO NOT HAVE PUBLIC BUSINESS. THE VERY NEXT BIT OF LANGUAGE IS A TOWN HALL MEETINGS THE THIRD TUESDAY OF THE MONTH IF THE CITY COMMISSION TONIGHT VOTES TO, FOR EXAMPLE, DO WHAT MAYOR BEAN IS SUGGESTING. WE TALKED ABOUT A WORKSHOP THE FIRST OF EVERY MONTH, MAKING SURE WE HAVE THAT MEETING AND WE HAVE ITEMS SCHEDULED. BUT WE ALSO ALLOW TIME FOR PUBLIC COMMENT. OR IF THERE'S ONLY PUBLIC COMMENT, THAT IS ON THE WORKSHOP MEETING. THE LAST ITEM MOVES PUBLIC COMMENTS TO THE FRONT OF THE AGENDA. TOWARDS THE END, FOR THE FIRST TIME WE HAVE A NEW LANGUAGE. ON THE NEXT TO LAST PAGE WHERE WE TALK ABOUT

HOW ITEMS GET ON THE AGENDA. >> I OWE YOU AN APOLOGY. I MISSED THIS PAGE. I APOLOGIZE FOR THAT. IT SAYS THE CITY COMMISSION HAS DESIGNATED THE FIRST TUESDAY OF EACH MONTH AT 5:00 P.M. AS A WORKSHOP RESERVED FOR COMMISSIONER DISCUSSION . CITY COMMISSION MADE -- MADE BY CONSENSUS CANCEL THE WORKSHOP. TOWN HALL MEETINGS. THE CITY DESIGNATED THE THIRD TUESDAY OF EACH MONTH AT 5:00 P.M. -- TOWN HALL MEETING FOR ALL QUESTIONS AND COMMENT.

>> I THINK THE SECOND TO LAST PAGE. IT IS SEVERAL LINES UNDERLINED. IT TALKS ABOUT HOW ITEMS GET ON THE AGENDA.

>> THERE IS NOWHERE HERE THAT TALKS ABOUT PUTTING IT BACK TO THE BEGINNING OF THE MEETING, IS THERE? IS

>> IT IS BURIED IN THE MIDDLE. HARD-TO-FIND. I JUST SAW IT. IT IS A ONE-LINER STRIKETHROUGH, TOWARDS THE MIDDLE. IT TALKS ABOUT HOW LONG WE HAVE PUBLIC COMMENT.

>> DID ANYBODY FIND IT? >> I BELIEVE IT IS IN THERE.

>> THIS IS BASED ON THE LAST COMMISSION MEETING, WITH TWO COMMISSIONERS SAYING, PUT THAT ON THE AGENDA.

>> I BELIEVE WE WILL DO AN AMENDMENT TO THIS MOTION, IF IT IS 2-2, IT DOES NOT PASS. LET'S GO TO THE PUBLIC COMMENT. LET'S BRING UP MR. RICHARD --

>> RICHARD DEAN, 410 ORD DUNE WHAT A PLACE. THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER ANTUN, THANK YOU COMMISSIONER ROSS FOR TRYING TO ADVANCE THE PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD, AND THE CONCEPT OF TOWN HALL MEETING. WHAT MYSELF AND OTHERS HAVE BEEN ASKING FOR HERE IS MORE THAN JUST COMMENT. A DIALOGUE, AN INTERACTION WITH OUR COMMISSIONERS. IN AN ATTEMPT TO ADVANCE SOLUTIONS.

NOT TO HAVE AN ARGUMENT, BUT TO SAY WE HAVE A PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD , WE DO NOT GET AN ANSWER, AND IT IS LIKE, MOVE ON. THE OP TICS HERE , WE MADE SOME PROGRESS. WE HAD A WORKSHOP ON PUBLIC COMMENT WHERE THERE WERE NO PUBLIC COMMENT ALLOWED BECAUSE WE DID NOT HAVE ANY TIME. THAT IS WHERE WE HAVE BEEN. LET'S DO BETTER. YOU HAVE A LOT OF TALENT IN THIS COMMUNITY. PEOPLE WHO CAN CONTRIBUTE IDEAS AND SOLUTIONS. THE WAY YOU ARE STRUCTURED NOW DOES NOT ALLOW THAT. IN TERMS OF TOWN HALL MEETINGS, WITH ALL DUE RESPECT, MAYOR, PLEASE STOP USING THE COUNSEL -- THING, THEY ARE ASKING ALL COMMISSIONERS TO MEET. I AM SORRY, COMMISSIONER AYSCUE, THE FIVE OF YOU CAN GET TOGETHER, LET'S ADD SOME STRUCTURE. LET'S HAVE AN AGENDA ON A TOWN HALL MEETING.

SO PEOPLE KNOW WHAT THEY ARE TALKING ABOUT. THEY COME FORWARD WITH IDEAS. PERFECT EXAMPLE WHERE THIS WOULD BENEFIT EVERYBODY, IS THE BUDGET. WE CAN, AND WE CAN HAVE COMMENTS ON THE BUDGET. YOU DON'T HAVE A DIALOGUE, BUT IF

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PLEASE LISTEN TO YOUR CONSTITUENTS AND LOOK AT THE OPTICS OF WHAT YOU ARE PROJECTING, SOME OF YOU. THERE IS LIP SERVICE ABOUT PUBLIC COMMENT, YOU DON'T REALLY WANT

TO ENGAGE WITH CITIZEN. >> THANK YOU. LET'S GO WITH

MR. JACK EMBER. >> 1003 BROOME STREET. I WOULD LIKE TO START WITH SOME DEFINITIONS. A TOWN HALL MEETING IS NOT ONE CITY COMMISSION ARE RUNNING A MEETING. IT IS JUST NOT. THE COMMISSION ENGAGING IN THE COMMISSION, THE THE COMMISSION ENGAGING THE PUBLIC. THAT IS ONE DEFINITION. ALSO, THREE INDIVIDUAL ACTIONS DISGUISED AS INDIVIDUAL RESOLUTIONS SHOULD BE VOTED ON INDIVIDUALLY. I THINK IT'S DISINGENUOUS TO BRING ALL OF THESE TOGETHER AND THEN VOTE ON THE RESOLUTION , WHICH WE ALREADY KNOW, IT IS 2-2. AND IF NOTHING IS GOING TO GET DONE. AND THEN, YOU GUYS DON'T WANT TO HEAR ABOUT THIS AGAIN, SO YOU SAY, WE DON'T WANT TO KEEP BRINGING THIS STUFF UP. AS LONG AS YOU KICK THE CAN DOWN THE ROAD, WE WILL KEEP BRINGING THIS STUFF UP AND IT IS WHAT THE PUBLIC WANTS. I COULD NOT SAY IT MORE SIMPLY.

THE REASON THIS IS GETTING MORE CONVOLUTED, IT'S YOUR OWN FAULT. SORRY. YOU GUYS ARE CREATING THIS PROBLEM BECAUSE YOU ARE NOT DISCUSSING IT INDIVIDUALLY, RATIONALLY , AND EVEN OPEN FOR WHAT THE PUBLIC WANTS. YOU ARE ARGUING SEMANTICS BUT IT IS NOT ADDRESSING WHAT THE PEOPLE

WANT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >> THANK YOU. I JUST GOOGLED THE DEFINITION OF TOWN HALL. IT SAYS, AN EVENT IN WHICH ANY POLITICIAN ANSWERS QUESTIONS FROM MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC. BY THAT DEFINITION, I WOULD SAY -- IS A TOWN HALL.

>> CAN I ASK A QUESTION? >> NO, YOUR TIME IS UP.

>> I DID NOT THINK I COULD. >> WOW, LET'S GET -- APPEAR.

UP HERE. >> COMMISSIONER ROSS, MY UNDERS LANDING IS THE MAYOR OF ACTIVELY HAS TWICE THE POWER TO GET SOMETHING ON THE AGENDA AS ANYONE ELSE. ACCORDING TO THE WAY THE RULES HAVE BEEN WRITTEN. I DON'T KNOW THAT THAT IS APPROPRIATE . I AGREE WITH COMMISSIONER ROSS THAT THE MAYOR IS A COMMISSIONER FIRST, AND THEN RUNS THE MEETINGS. MAYBE I MISUNDERSTAND AND YOU GUYS COULD CLARIFY THAT. I AM CERTAINLY WILLING TO LISTEN. TO GET SOMETHING ON THE AGENDA, THAT GIVE THE MAYOR A DISPROPORTIONATE AMOUNT OF POWER TO DIRECT THE DIRECTION OF THE TOPICS OF DISCUSSION IN COMMISSION MEETINGS. MI BEING CLEARER AT COMMUNICATING THAT?

>> THAT IS CORRECT. I WILL ANSWER THAT. I DID NOT MAKE THE RULE, THAT HAS BEEN THE RULE FOR AS LONG AS I HAVE BEEN HERE. THERE IS A SEPARATE DIRECT ELECTION OR MAYOR. I'M THE FIRST EVER DIRECTLY ELECTED MAYOR IN OUR CITY'S HISTORY.

THAT ELECTION WOULD EMPOWER US TO DO THAT. YOU ARE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT, THAT IS WHAT IT IS. WE ARE CODIFYING THE WAY IT'S

BEEN FOR YEARS. >> WHY DON'T YOU CODIFY THE MAYOR DOES NOT HAVE THE AUTHORITY WITHOUT ANOTHER

COMMISSIONER ON BOARD? >> THAT IS A GOOD QUESTION. I WOULD POSIT BACK TO YOU. WHAT IF THERE IS A NEED FOR SOMETHING LIKE A HURRICANE OR SOME EMERGENCY THING?

>> TWO COMMISSIONERS CAN EASILY AGREE ON THAT.

>> THAT IS THE THING. IT'S ALL ABOUT QUICKNESS AND BEING

AGILE. THAT IS BASICALLY IT. >> OKAY. WE UNDERSTAND YOUR POSITION. YOU DO NOT WANT TO CHANGE IT, RIGHT?

>> WE ARE KEEPING IT THE SAME AS IT HAS ALWAYS BEEN.

>> I SEE, THANK YOU. >> LET'S GET MR. PETE

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STEVENSON. >> PETE STEVENSON, 16 27 HIGHLAND DUNES WAY. I WANT TO FOCUS ON WORKSHOP. WORKSHOP SHOULD HAVE A SPECIFIC PURPOSE, OR PURPOSES. THAT IS FOR THE WHOLE TEAM, COMMISSIONERS , TO BE ABLE TO SIT DOWN AND DISCUSS A SUBJECT OR SUBJECTS. I THINK WHAT COULD BE ADDED TO THAT IS TO GET THE PUBLIC INPUT AS PART OF THOSE ALREADY IDENTIFIED ITEMS. BUT LIMIT IT TO THE ITEMS ALREADY ON THE AGENDA.

THERE IS NO REASON NOT TO GET PUBLIC COMMENT . SOMETIMES WE DO, A LOT OF TIMES WE DON'T. I AFRAID YOU ARE DEVIATING TOO FAR FROM WHAT THE WORKSHOP IS. IT IS A TOOL YOU NEED. IT IS VERY DIFFICULT WHETHER YOU ARE ON THE BOARD, OR COMMISSIONERS, TO SHARE THOUGHTS, IDEAS OR DIFFERENCES. YOU DO NOT WANT TO DILUTE THAT TOO MUCH. YOU WANT TO KEEP IT FOCUSED. IF YOU WANT TO DO A TOWN HALL, THAT SHOULD BE TOTALLY SEPARATE. YOU GOT A REGULAR COMMISSION MEETING TONIGHT. A WORKSHOP THAT CAN SEE THAT ONE OR TWO TIMES PER MONTH. DO NOT DILUTE THE FUNCTION OF THE WORKSHOP. AND THAT IS TO DISCUSS ITEMS .

HOPEFULLY PEOPLE WILL BRING THOSE ITEMS TO YOU INDIVIDUALLY. YOU WILL SEE SOMETHING LIKE -- IT MEANS IT IS GOING TO BE OUT THERE FOR THE PUBLIC CONSUMPTION A WEEK AHEAD OF TIME. SO EVERYONE WILL SAY, OKAY, THAT IS WHAT THEY WILL TALK ABOUT AT THE WORKSHOP. THEY CAN COME DOWN AND TALK ABOUT THAT, BUT KEEP IT TO THAT. OTHERWISE YOU WILL BE TRYING TO RUN THREE RAILROADS ON ONE TRACK. IT IS FOOD TO THINK ABOUT IN TERMS OF HOW YOU USE THE WORKSHOP AND THE PURPOSE OF THE WORKSHOP. THAT IS TO DO THE FRONT END WORK BEFORE YOU

LET'S CALL MUSCOGEE -- >> 1553 INDIGO STREET. I WOULD LIKE TO AGREE WITH MY FRIEND ON THE WORKSHOP. I AGREE THEY SHOULD BE STRUCTURED ABOUT ITEMS YOU ALL NEED TO BRING TO BE ABLE TO DISCUSS IN THE SUNSHINE. I A PRIEST THAT SO APPRECIATE THE TIME YOU HAVE ALLOWED PUBLIC COMMENT. I THINK IT IS APPROPRIATE TO HAVE THAT. I WOULD LIKE TO SEE A SEPARATE TOWN HALL. I THINK THAT THE DIFFERENT IDEA ENTIRELY. I DON'T THINK IT'S APPROPRIATE WE HAVE TO FOLLOW FIVE PEOPLE AROUND TOWN WHEREVER YOU MAY OR MAY NOT BE TRYING TO DO THAT.

IT SHOULD BE A PUBLICIZED -- IT SHOULD BE CONSISTENT AND REGULAR. I WOULD LIKE TO REMIND YOU THAT SOME OF YOU HAVE BEEN AFFORDED A VOTING BLOCK FOR THE LAST TWO YEARS. IT'S PRETTY PREDICTABLE HOW AND WHEN THAT WILL HAPPEN. YOU MAY AT SOME POINT BE A PERSON OF ONE AND STILL HAVE A VIOLET -- VALID ARGUMENT IN FRONT OF THIS BODY AND THE CITIZENS TO HEAR THAT.

I THINK ANY COMMISSIONER, COULD YOU HAVE BEEN ELECTED, YOU SHOULD BE ABLE TO PUT SOMETHING ON THE AGENDA. IF SOMETHING KEEPS COMING BACK, MAYBE IT IS A SIGN THAT ONE THING NEEDS TO BE DONE ABOUT THAT. TO RICH'S POINT. I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S ON PURPOSE OR UNWITTINGLY, THE APPEARANCE IS YOU DO NOT WANT TO HEAR FROM PEOPLE. OR YOU WANT TO SET UP IN A STRUCTURED WAY TO HEAR THE THINGS YOU WANT TO HEAR. SOMETIMES, IT IS NOT ALWAYS THAT KNEE. IF YOU ARE AFRAID TO HEAR FROM PEOPLE AND ALL OF THE THINGS THEY THINK, I WOULD SUGGEST YOU DO NOT HAVE A TOWN HALL. I THINK ENOUGH PEOPLE HAVE BEEN HERE ASKING FOR SUCH A THING CONTINUALLY, AND THAT SHOULD BE CONSIDERED.

I HAVE BEEN ON A REPRESENTATIVE'S TOWN HALL CALL, I HAVE BEEN ASKED TO SUBMIT QUESTIONS. I SIT AND LISTEN TO A LOT OF RON RON, AND NONE OF THE TOUGH QUESTIONS BEING ASKED. AND THEY NEVER COME AROUND TO THOSE QUESTIONS.

I THINK THIS COMMISSION AS A BODY OWES IT TO THE CITIZENS OF THE CITY TO SHOW UP FOR US. SOMETIMES THESE ITEMS -- THE POINT OF A TOWN HALL TO TALK ABOUT THINK THAT MAYBE YOU DON'T KNOW ABOUT, OR IF SOMETHING THERE IS GOING ON, TO SEE IF THERE'S A PROBLEM AND WE NEED TO GIVE DIRECTION TO CITY STAFF. OR IT NEEDS TO BE ON AN AGENDA. THIS IS THE

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THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU. MISS JOYCE.

>> THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. JOYCE -- I AGREE WITH MR. STEVENSON. I THINK YOU GUYS SHOULD TIGHTEN HOLD TO YOUR WORKSHOP TIME. MY SISTER SITS ON CITY COMMISSION IN THE TOWN I GREW UP IN AND SHE CANNOT BELIEVE HOW TIGHT FOR THE SUNSHINE'S LAW IS. SHE CAN TALK TO ONE ANOTHER COMMISSIONER, THEY CANNOT TALK IF THEY ARE IN OREM. SO SHE DOES NOT KNOW HOW YOU GUYS GET ANYTHING DONE. YOU NEED YOUR WORKSHOP TIME. IT IS A RARE TIME YOU CAN ACTUALLY TALK TO EACH OTHER. IF YOU WANT TO INVITE ANY KIND OF GIVE-AND-TAKE, I DON'T THINK YOU SHOULD GIVE THAT TO THE CITIZENS. AND YOU WILL BE UNDER PRESSURE TO GO MORE QUICKLY TO LET US SPEAK. IT ALSO DOES NOT NECESSARILY SOLVE THE PROBLEM OF ALLOWING PEOPLE TO BEGIN THE BEGINNING. I THINK THE PEOPLE WHO HAVE CHILDREN AT HOME, OR HAVE JOBS IN THE EVENING NEED OTHER TIME. I DO BELIEVE THAT SO AGREE WITH COMMISSIONER AYSCUE, HAVING A GIVE-AND-TAKE WOULD BE COMPLEX. IT MAKES ME THINK OF TALKING TO A SMALL CHILD WHEN THEY ASK A QUESTION.

CITY GOVERNMENT IS CRAZY COMPLICATED. AND YOUR PACKETS ARE ENORMOUS. I AM SITTING WITH MY COMPUTER, I CAN SEE THE PACKET. WE DON'T NECESSARILY KNOW EVERYTHING. AND YOU ALL CANNOT NECESSARILY ANSWER YOUR IT. YOU MIGHT STEP IN SOMETHING THAT LEGALLY IS NOT A GOOD IDEA TO SAY. I AGREE WITH COMMISSIONER ROSS. PLANET THAT SO PRETTY EASILY SAY TO US, THAT IS A GREAT QUESTION. WE CANNOT SAY ANYTHING ABOUT THAT.

OR I CAN'T TALK ABOUT THAT RIGHT NOW. OR I DO NOT KNOW ENOUGH . I HAVE TO DRIVE AND LOOK AT THAT PROPERTY. I AGREE WITH COMMISSIONER ANTUN . THIS CITY IS FILLED WITH AN INCREDIBLE NUMBER OF REALLY TALENTED PEOPLE. THAT ARE REALLY INVOLVED. AND WANT TO HELP. WE WANT A NICER TOWN. WE WANT A BETTER PLACE TO LIVE. IF MORE PEOPLE CAN HAVE AN HONEST GIVE AND TAKE. I HAVE HAD THE FORTUNATE ABILITY TO LIVE IN 10 DIFFERENT LOCATIONS. MY HUSBAND WAS IN THE ARMY FOR 26 YEARS.

WE WERE STATIONED IN MARYLAND, MASSACHUSETTS, TEXAS, HAWAII, WASHINGTON, VIRGINIA, GERMANY , TWICE. I AM SURE I AM LEAVING SOMETHING OUT. THERE ARE LOTS OF TOWN HALLS. I HAVE BEEN TO TOWN HALLS IN HAWAII, MARYLAND, WASHINGTON. AND EVERY SINGLE MILITARY BASE. THEY ARE LIKE CITIES IN AND OF THEMSELVES.

THEY ARE MASSIVE, AND THE COMMANDER HOLDS A TOWN HALL MEETING WITH THE DIRECTORS, OR WE CAN MAKE THE BASE BETTER.

ANYWAY. I LEAVE YOU WITH THAT. THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE.

>> THANK YOU. WE WILL GO WITH --

>> I THINK EVERYONE HERE KNOWS WHOEVER CONTROLS THE AGENDA CONTROLS THE MEETING. THIS IS EXTREMELY IMPORTANT IN A PARLIAMENTARY PROCEDURE. I AM HEARING THAT THREE RESOLUTIONS ARE HERE, -- ONE RESOLUTION, THERE SHOULD BE A SEPARATE ONE ON EACH ITEM. THEY ARE VERY DIFFERENT AND THERE MAY BE DIFFERENT OPINIONS ON THEM. AS WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH COMMISSIONERS HERE TO EVEN DO A VOTE, IT WILL PROBABLY NOT MAKE A DIFFERENCE AT THIS POINT. AT A PRIOR MEETING, YOU ARE CORRECT, MAYOR, YOU THOUGHT IT TOOK A MAYOR OR TWO COMMISSIONERS TO PUT AN ITEM ON THE AGENDA. AND I HEARD MR. BOCK SAY, NO, THAT IS FOR SPECIAL CALLED MEETINGS FOR EMERGENCIES. THAT MEETING, THERE WAS DISCUSSION ABOUT THAT. BECAUSE OTHER COMMISSIONERS WERE UNDER THE SAME IMPRESSION. WHERE IT STANDS NOW, AS EVERY

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THE MEETING. THAT IS NOT PARLIAMENTARY PROCEDURE. IT'S ONLY WHEN IT'S -- SOMETHING SHE NEEDS TO MAKE STATE -- MAKE SURE IT STAYS ON TASK. I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THIS COME BACK WITH ALL FIVE OF YOU HERE AND TWO RESOLUTIONS ON THE PUBLIC COMMENT INPUT AT THE BEGINNING OF THE MEETING, AND ONE OF THE TWO WORKSHOPS A MONTH BEING MADE A TOWN HALL MEETING. AND LEAVE THE AGENDA ITEM ALONE. THERE IS NO PROCEDURE. ANY COMMISSIONER CAN PUT AN ITEM ON THE AGENDA. IT IS NOT CODIFIED AND NOT NEEDED TO BE CODIFIED. THE REASON YOU WANT TO DO IT, IS YOU WANT TO CONTROL HOW IT IS DONE AND WHO CAN DO IT. THAT

IS SIMPLY WRONG. >> THANK YOU. DO I HEAR SOME

SORT OF MOTION OR AMENDMENT? >> I WILL MAKE A MOTION. I WILL MOVE THAT WE ADOPT SECTION 2.3 AS WRITTEN. AND WE ADOPT

SECTION 2.4 AS WRITTEN >> DESCRIBE THE SECTION.

>> 2.3 IS WORKSHOPS, 2.4 IS TOWN HALL MEETING .

>> THAT WAS A DIFFERENT NUMBER. --

>> I STAND CORRECTED. I MOVE THAT WE ADOPT IN THE DOCUMENT , AS WRITTEN, WITH THE EXCEPTION OF ITEM 6.3 IT SAYS, THE MAYOR MAY PLACE AN ITEM ON THE AGENDA HOARDING WITH ESTABLISHED DEADLINES FOR TWO COMMISSIONERS INDEPENDENTLY. CHANGE THAT TO ONE CITY COMMISSIONER MAY PLACE AN ITEM ON THE AGENDA WITH THE ESTABLISHED DEADLINES, AND STRIKE THE REST OF THAT. THAT

IS MY MOTION. >> IS THERE A SECOND? HEARING NO SECOND, DO I HEAR ANOTHER MOTION?

>> I WILL LICK A MOTION TO -- TO POSTPONE THIS UNTIL WE HAVE ALL FIVE MEMBERS AT THE MEETING.

>> I CAN LIVE WITH THAT. >> IS THERE A SECOND?

>> I WILL SECOND. >> SO IT IS WHAT COMMISSIONER ROSS THAT, BUT WE ARE NOT VOTING ON IT TONIGHT?

>> IT HAS NO EFFECT OTHER THAN A POSTPONE MEETING.

>> FIRST OF ALL, LET'S VOTE ON THIS. I WANT TO HEAR WHAT COMMISSIONER AYSCUE HAS TO SAY .

>> I WILL VOTE AGAINST THIS MOTION. AND IN MY COMMISSIONER COMMENTS, I WILL BRING UP , NUMBER ONE, TO PLACE AN ITEM ON THE AGENDA , THE MAYOR CAN DO A, TWO CITY COMMISSIONERS CAN DO IT. HOWEVER THAT IS FORMED. WEATHER DONE THROUGH PUBLIC COMMENT, OR COMMISSIONER COMMENT. OR DONE THROUGH STAFF . THAT ONE COMMISSIONER CAN ÚBR. IT TAKES TWO COMMISSIONERS TO MOVE THAT ITEM TO AN AGENDA. WHEN IT IS PLACED ON THE

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OR THE REMAINING TIME OF THE WORKSHOP WILL BE OPEN TO PUBLIC COMMENT. THAT IS GOING TO BE MY SUGGESTION. THOSE WOULD BE TWO SEPARATE RESOLUTIONS I WOULD LIKE TO SEE PLACED ON THE NEXT

MEETING'S AGENDA. >> WE WILL SEE THAT, THEN. I LIKE THOSE IDEAS TO ENCOURAGE MORE PUBLIC COMMENT. AS I SAID AT THE BEGINNING OF THIS, I THINK THAT'S A WONDERFUL COMPROMISE. THAT WAS ADDED TO THE BEGINNING OF THE MEETING. I THINK THAT IS ONE THING THAT IS A BIG DEAL. ANY MORE DISCUSSION ON THIS? SEEING ON, LET'S GO AHEAD AND CALL THE VOTE. THE VOTE IS WHAT YOU SAID , AND HAVE A POSTPONE TWO WEEKS.

>> SO BASICALLY -- >> WE ARE POSTPONING IT AS

WRITTEN. >> THAT IS CORRECT.

>> AS A POINT OF CLARIFICATION, THERE ARE TWO MOTIONS ON THE FLOOR.

WAS NO SECOND. >> THE SECOND ONE WAS COMMISSIONER ANTUN SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER ROSS.

>>

[5.11 GRANT APPLICATION - FLORIDA DEPARTMENT OF ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTION CLEAN VESSEL ACT GRANT - RESOLUTION 2024-125 AUTHORIZING THE PREPARATION AND SUBMISSION OF A FLORIDA DEPARTMENT OF ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTION, FLORIDA CLEAN MARINA PROGRAM, CLEAN VESSEL ACT PROGRAM GRANT APPLICATION TO PURCHASE A PUMPOUT BOAT FOR SEWAGE COLLECTIONS AT THE FERNANDINA HARBOR MARINA; AND PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE. Synopsis: Authorizes application to the FDEP Clean Vessel Act Program Grant in Fiscal Year 2024/2025.]

>> THANK YOU, 2024-125 IS AUTHORIZING THE PREPARATION AND SUBMISSION OF A FLORIDA DEPARTMENT OF ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTION, FOR A FLORIDA CLEAN MARINA PROGRAM, STAFF

RECOMMENDS APPROVAL. >> ANY QUESTIONS?

>> IT IS A GRANT THROUGH FDEP. THIS FOR APPLICANT -- APPLICATION FOR A SEWAGE COLLECTION BOAT AT OUR MARINA.

WE HAVE ONE NOW. EXTENSIVE REPAIRS ARE PLANNED LATER THIS YEAR. IF WE WIN THIS GRANT, WHAT WE CONTRIBUTE WOULD BE MORE WE WOULD BE CONTRIBUTING TO THE REPAIRS OF THE BOW. THIS IS WHY STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL.

>> ME LESS THAN WHAT WE CONTRIBUTE?

>> YES. TO OFFSET THE COST. >> MOVED TO APPROVE.

>> SECOND. >> I HEAR A MOTION AND A SECOND. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION?

>>

[6. PUBLIC COMMENT REGARDING ITEMS NOT ON THE AGENDA]

MAYOR. >> AN EMAIL LAST WEEK ABOUT WHAT WE WERE DOING ABOUT THE ISSUES.

AS A RESULT, THERE WAS A MEETING ON WHAT WE CAN CALL STAKEHOLDERS. WE FORMED A COALITION , THE EXTREME WEATHER COALITION. I WANTED TO BE THE COOL COALITION. WARM WEATHER IS COMING. REALLY, A LOT OF WORK HAS BEEN DONE. AND THERE WILL BE A LOT OF OTHER PEOPLE WHO SPEAK TONIGHT. WE ARE IN AUGUST, THE HOTTEST MONTH OF THE YEAR. IS 8:00 THIS MORNING, THE HEAT INDEX WAS 100%. THAT IS HIGH CAR SCENARIO WHAT DO

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THE COUNTY WEBSITE DOES HAVE A WEATHER STREAM. THEY DO HAVE THE INDEX, BUT IT IS WAY OVER ON THE SIDE. THE CITY DOES NOT.

THE CITY CAN EASILY PUT IT ON AS WE TALK ABOUT AIR QUALITY.

IS TO CENTRALIZE THE HEAT INDEX IN THERE, ALONG WITH OTHER -- HEATSTROKE, HEAT EXHAUSTION. THAT WOULD BE AN IMMEDIATE THING. THE NEXT THING THAT COMES UP IS, WHERE DO PEOPLE GO? COOLING CENTERS, HYDRATION CENTERS. THERE IS A LOT OF THEM AROUND. WE DO NOT HAVE A CENTRAL FACILITY, AND WE CAN WORK ON THAT. BECAUSE YOU GUYS ARE ENJOYING THE COALITION, WE CAN WORK WITH THE CITY ON THAT. I ACTUALLY TALKED TO THE LIBRARY. WE ALL KNEW -- KNOW PEOPLE GO TO THE LIBRARY.

INAUDIBLE ] WE ARE TALKING ABOUT DIFFERENT POPULATIONS.

THERE IS A HOMELESS POPULATION. THERE IS ALSO A POPULATION THAT DOES NOT HAVE AIR, BUT DO NOT KNOW WHERE TO GO. EVERY CITY FACILITY THAT IS PUBLIC TO ME IS EIGHT HYDRATION CENTER.

WHETHER IT IS SUITABLE OR NOT, IT IS. THOSE ARE THINGS I THINK WE CAN DO WITHIN A COUPLE OF WEEKS TO GET THAT INFORMATION OUT. I WOULD BE HAPPY TO WORK WITH -- A LOT OF THIS IS REDUNDANT. A LOT OF GOOD STUFF IS HAPPENING, BUT IT IS NOT ALL PULLED TOGETHER. AFTER TONIGHT, NOW THAT YOU HAVE JOINED THE COALITION, WE CAN TRY TO PULL STUFF TOGETHER AND GET THE WORD OUT. ULTIMATELY, WE ARE GOING TO HAVE TO DEAL WITH THE STATE LAW ON HOMELESS -- AND THE PRIVATE SECTOR WILL HAVE TO ASSUME SOME RESPONSIBILITY IN SOME OF THESE AREAS. I THINK SOME PEOPLE WILL MENTION THAT.

>> VICE MAYOR, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR BEING HERE TONIGHT. I WILL SAY, THIS MORNING, JEREMIAH AND I EXCHANGED EMAILS ABOUT HOW WE COULD ADDRESS AN ISSUE LIKE THIS. IN THE WINTER, WE HAVE THE COLD NIGHT SHELTERS. WE TRIGGER THE MLK TO OPEN UP. CAN WE DO THE OPPOSITE? A HOT DAY SHELTER? THAT IS SOMETHING JEREMIAH IS LOOKING AT RIGHT NOW. I APPRECIATE YOU RAISING AWARENESS FOR THIS.

>>

DOWN. >> IAMBS SO GRATEFUL FOR -- RECRUITING ALL OF YOU. I LIVE AT 414 POINT SIDE DRIVE. I USED TO BE A MEDICAL ENGINEER, I AM CURRENTLY EMPLOYED AS AN ENVIRONMENTAL STEWARDSHIP ADMINISTRATOR AT -- CHURCH. I AM NOT SPEAKING ON BEHALF OF ST. PETER'S, BUT I HOPE MY CREDENTIALS LEND ME SOME CREDIBILITY -- EXTREME HEAT KILLS EVEN MORE AMERICANS EVERY YEAR THAN TORNADOES OR RIP CURRENTS. WE STARTED HEARING PREDICTIONS THAT THE SUMMER WOULD BE ESPECIALLY HOT. I STARTED WORKING DESK WORRYING ABOUT OUR VULNERABLE CITIZENS. PROTECTING RESIDENTS AND VISITORS FROM EXTREME HEAT IS THE RIGHT THING TO DO. PRAGMATICALLY, THERE IS A COST TO DOING NOTHING. THE CDC RECENTLY LOST A HEALTH TRACKING TOOL. SINCE JUNE 1ST, WE HAVE EXPERIENCED SEVERAL MAJOR HEAT RISK. THAT IS THE PREDICTION FOR THIS HOLIDAY WEEKEND. IT IS FLORIDA, SO WE EXPECTED TO BE HOT. IT'S UNCOMFORTABLE AND INCONVENIENT.

FOR EMERGENCY MEDICAL WORKERS, IT KEEPS THEM BUSIER. JUNE THROUGH SEPTEMBER OF 2023, OUR LOCAL HOSPITAL EXPERIENCE 32 HEAT RELATED -- I WOULD BE INTERESTED TO SEE HOW MANY FIRST RESPONDERS CARED FOR HEAT EMERGENCIES THAT DID NOT RESULT IN A RIDE TO THE HOSPITAL. IF THE SUMMER -- SOME MAKE BAD CHOICES WITH OUTSIDE ACTIVITY. SOME SIMPLY CANNOT ACCESS AIR-CONDITIONING BECAUSE THEIR INCOME ARE BELOW THE POVERTY LINE, AND NO SURPRISE, THIS GROUP IS ALSO LEAST ABLE TO AFFORD EMERGENCY MEDICAL BILL. VICE MAYOR, WE PULLED TOGETHER CONCERNED CITIZENS, CALLING OURSELVES THE EXTREME WEATHER COALITION. WE HAVE TWO REPRESENTATIVES FROM THE DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH, A REPRESENTATIVE ON THE COALITION

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MOSTLY, I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE SURE IT YOU KNOW OUR GROUP IS INTERESTED IN PARTNERING WITH THE CITY TO KEEP OUR RESIDENTS

AND VISITORS SAFE. >> THANK YOU FOR THIS TIME.

>> THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE TONIGHT. JEREMIAH, CAN WE CONTINUE TO LOOK INTO IT? THANK YOU. YES, MA'AM. COME ON DOWN.

YOU ARE UP NEXT. >> I AM IN SUPPORT OF THAT. I

HAVE BEEN WORKING WITH THAT. >> WHATEVER YOU WOULD LIKE TO

TALK ABOUT. YES, MA'AM. >> 85089 -- I LIVE IN THE BOONIES, I AM NOT REALLY A CITY PERSON. LET ME SAY, I VOLUNTEER IN THE CITY A LONG TIME. I WORK WITH A LOT OF NONPROFITS, I HELP PEOPLE BECAUSE I LOVE THE. WHAT I AM HERE TO TALK ABOUT IS EMPATHY AND COMPASSION. I DID NOT KNOW UNTIL I WALKED IN HERE, I SAID, I CAME IN SUPPORT OF THE EXTREME WEATHER COALITION. I THINK THAT IS IMPORTANT TO MAKE SURE PEOPLE ARE HYDRATED. AND HAVE AN ESCAPE. WHAT WE ARE DEALING WITH IS WHETHER, BUT WE ARE ALSO DEALING WITH INCOME AND POVERTY, AND PEOPLE WHO MAYBE HAVE A HOUSE, A ROOF OVER THEIR HEADS, BUT THEIR AIR CONDITIONER DOES NOT WORK WELL.

WHAT I DID NOT KNOW IS YOU ARE GOING TO TALK ABOUT 522 CITROEN AVENUE -- 22 CITROEN A -- I HAVE A LOT OF CONCERNS, THE OWNER OF THE PROPERTY HAS BEEN EXPLOITING PEOPLE FOR A WHILE.

I WOULD SUGGEST THAT YOU BE CAREFUL , OKAY? I THINK HE HAS PTSD. HE IS A VETERAN. OF COURSE, I RESPECT THAT. AND NOT ALL PEOPLE GET THE HELP THEY NEED. LET ME JUST SAY, THERE ARE A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT LIVE THERE THEY CANNOT LIVE ANYWHERE ELSE. BECAUSE OF HOUSING PRICES, THE COST OF LIVING.

BECAUSE WE LIVE IN A COMMUNITY THAT HAS EXTREME WEALTH. BUT ALSO EXTREME POVERTY. I AM JUST ASKING, BECAUSE I REALLY DO NOT KNOW WHAT TO DO. I KNOW THESE PEOPLE THAT LIVE IN THIS HOUSE.

IT IS SAD TO ME. I UNDERSTAND SOMETHING NEEDS TO BE DONE. I THOUGHT THAT FOR A LONG TIME. I AM JUST HERE TO SPEAK ON

COMPASSION AND EMPATHY. >> THANK YOU FOR BEING WITH US TONIGHT. I HOPE WHEN WE TAKE CARE OF THIS ISSUE, -- IS TREATED RESPECTFULLY AND AS SUCH.

>> SOME OF THOSE ARE GOOD PEOPLE. THEY WORK. THEY MIGHT NOT HAVE TO ANTI-JOBS, BUT THEY ACTUALLY WORK. AND THAT IS REALLY ALL THEY HAVE TO. THIS PERSON HAS BEEN EXPLOITING PEOPLE IN THAT CATEGORY FOR A LONG TIME. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THE PEOPLE THAT ARE THERE ARE TREATED JUSTLY AND LOVE.

>> THANK YOU FOR BEING WITH US IN A. CHIEF, IF YOU CAN TAKE NOTE OF THAT. THANK YOU SO MUCH.

>> THANK YOU. >> 1003 BROOME STREET. ANDRE OFFERED TO ANSWER QUESTIONS AT THE END OF THE MEETING WILL WITH THE PUBLIC COMMENTS SECTION. MY QUESTION IS, FOR

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REALLY UNSIGHTLY. >> I CAN ANSWER THAT, THEY WILL BE MOVED IN THE NEXT TWO WEEKS.

>> GOOD TIMING THERE. THE OTHER THING IS, IN THE RUSH TO -- ALACHUA STREET , THEY WERE STRIPED IN SUCH A WAY TO ACCOMMODATE WIDE ARMORED VEHICLES. A TANK COULD FIT THERE EASILY. WHAT IT HAS CAUSED IS, A LOT OF THE PEOPLE OUT OF TOWN THINK THAT ASH AND ALACHUA ARE ONE WAY STREET S NOW. WHEN YOU ARE COMING WEST ON EITHER ASH OR ALACHUA, A LOT OF TIMES, YOU ARE FACED WITH THE CAR TURNING ON AND GOING STRAIGHT AT YOU ON THE LEFT SIDE OF THE ROAD. THIS IS A SAFETY ISSUE. IN THE LONG-TERM. IN THE SHORT-TERM, IT IS MAKING PEOPLE UPSET. I THINK THE DEPARTMENT SHOULD TAKE A BETTER LOOK AT THIS AND ADVISE THE CITY TO MAYBE PUT SOME TEMPORARY TRACKS DOWN. PEOPLE REALLY DO NOT KNOW WHERE TO GO.

AND HAVING THE PARKING PLACES SO WIDE ALSO MEANS THAT PEOPLE ARE PARKING AT THE EXTREME LEFT AT THAT PARKING PLACE. SO WHEN PEOPLE ARE COMING INTO PARALLEL PARK, THEY ARE TRYING TO GET CLOSER TO THE CURB AND THEY HAVE TO GO FORWARD, BACKWARD, FORWARD, BACKWARD. I KNOW THIS WAS PROBABLY IN THE MASTER PLAN TO MAKE THIS ONE-WAY STREETS. AND THEN MAKE THE PARKING PLACES APPROPRIATE. BUT IT WAS A BAD JUDGMENT INITIALLY. AND IT IS CAUSING PROBLEM IN TERMS OF PEOPLE THINKING IT'S A ONE-WAY STREET ALREADY. THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMENTS. DO WE HAVE ENOUGH SPACE FOR TWO LANES OF TRAFFIC THERE? IS THERE ANY OTHER REQUESTS TO SPEAK TONIGHT? ALL RIGHT. LET'S GO TO THE CITY MANAGER

[7. CITY MANAGER REPORTS]

REPORTS. >> THANK YOU, MAYOR. THE CITIES BUDGET PROCESS IS IN FULL SWING. THE STAFF WILL DRAFT A CONDENSED BUDGET WITHIN THE NEXT COUPLE OF WEEKS.

ADDITIONALLY, A PRESENTATION WILL BE PROVIDED AT THE JULY 16TH MEETING. WITH THE ADOPTION OF THE MILLAGE RATE ADOPTED ON THE JULY 30TH SPECIAL MEETING. THE WATERFRONT PART , THE STAFF CONTINUES TO WORK ON THE WATERFRONT PARK PROGRAM. WE PREPARE THE SITE PLAN FOR THE NEXT MEETING. THE CITY MANAGER SEARCH FOR THE POST HAVE BEEN ADVERTISED WITH AN APPLICATION OF JULY 17TH. UNION NEGOTIATIONS ARE UNDERWAY WITH THE CITY. THE CONTRACT COVERED THE EMPLOYMENT OF APPROXIMATELY OF 120 EMPLOYEES . -- AS A REMINDER, CITY OFFICES ARE CLOSED THURSDAY, JULY 4TH, FOR INDEPENDENCE DAY. ANY QUESTIONS

[8. CITY ATTORNEY REPORTS]

OR COMMENTS FOR ME? >> THANK YOU.

>> I DON'T HAVE ANY WORDS, THANK YOU. I AM AVAILABLE FOR

QUESTIONS. >> I WOULD ASK FOR YOU TO SPEAK

ABOUT THE -- MEETING TODAY. >> TODAY, THE CITY COMMISSION ON THE PORT AUTHORITY BOARD MET HERE IN A PUBLIC MEETING. THE IDEA WAS, THEY WERE GOING TO HAVE ONE LAST MEDIATION OR SETTLEMENT DISCUSSION. WE DID. AND WE DID COME TO AN AGREEMENT VERBALLY . WE HAVE FOUR COMMISSIONERS PRESENT FROM PORT AUTHORITY AND FOUR COMMISSIONERS PRESENT FROM THE CITY COMMISSION, THESE FOUR. ALL EIGHT OF THE ELECTED BOARD MEMBERS AGREED -- THE CITY WAS RECEIVING $50,000 PER YEAR IN THE PAYMENT IN LIEU OF TAXES. IT IS CALLED THAT BECAUSE OF THE PORT AUTHORITY IS AN INDEPENDENT SPECIAL DISTRICT

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>> I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR THE WORK YOU HAVE DONE.

] >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THAT WAS NICE TO SEE TOO. YOU DO NOT NORMALLY SEE THAT, IF MORE CITIZENS WERE HERE -- AFTER WE SETTLED THIS, WE WERE IN SEPARATE ROOMS. WE CAME TOGETHER AND AGREED AND HAD LUNCH TOGETHER. I WANT TO SAY EARLIER ABOUT THE -- I HEARD YOU LOUD AND CLEAR ABOUT THE SEPARATE STUFF. PLEASE KNOW WHEN THE CLERK AND I WORKED TOGETHER, WE DON'T WORK TOGETHER ON EVERY SINGLE THING. THIS WAS THAT IMPORTANT. WE'LL TAKE OUR DECISION LIKELY. WE WERE LIKE, SHOULD BE SEPARATED OR PUT TOGETHER. JUST SO YOU KNOW.

>> I WAS NOT BLAMING ANYBODY. >> I HEARD EXACTLY.

>> I THINK FOR THE CLEANER VERSION OF IT, AND I DON'T KNOW WHEN COMMISSIONER ANTUN -- EXACT DESIRES WERE , I DO NOT KNOW. TO ME, I THINK WHEN WE CODIFY IT, WHEN THE MAYOR OR TWO COMMISSIONERS DECIDE THEY WILL PLAY SOMETHING ON THE

AGENDA, -- >> YOU ALL DO A FANTASTIC JOB.

IN NO WAY WAS I UPSET ABOUT THAT.

>> THAT DOES RAISE ONE QUESTION. BECAUSE IT WAS DEFEATED THIS EVENING, AND HE CITY COMMISSIONER CAN PUT SOMETHING ON THE AGENDA. IS THAT CORRECT?

>> BECAUSE OF MARK OF -- CODIFIED ABOUT THE MAYOR TWO COMMISSIONERS. I SUPPOSE THERE IS NOTHING THAT SAYS YOU

CANNOT. >> AND I GUESS THERE IS NO RULE THAT YOU CAN PUT THE AGENDA AGAIN AND AGAIN. YOU SAID YOU WOULD NOT DO THAT. MR. BACH, THANK YOU FOR BEING WITH US.

[10. MAYOR/COMMISSIONER COMMENTS]

CITY CLERK, WHAT YOU HAVE? >> NO COMMENTS.

>> COMMISSIONER COMMENT. MR. ROSS?

[02:25:07]

>> HAPPY FOURTH OF JULY. I SPENT ONE OF THE DAYS I TRY TO AVOID -- WAS THE FOURTH OF JULY . PLEASE LEAVE FIREWORKS UP TO PROFESSIONAL. I SAW TOO MANY KIDS, TOO MANY ADULTS -- PLEASE. THOSE ARE BOMBS. LET THE PROFESSIONALS DO FIREWORKS.

AND STAY SAFE. HAVE A GOOD TIME.

>> COMMISSIONER ANTUN ? >> I WOULD LIKE TO THANK THE COMMISSION FOR FINALLY LANDING THAT PLANE. IT IS GOOD TO FINALLY FIND A RESOLUTION. I ALSO WANT TO ECHO ABOUT THE FOURTH OF JULY. I HOPE TO SEE YOU DOWNTOWN BETWEEN 6:00 AND

9:00. >> COMMISSIONER AYSCUE?

>> AS I BROUGHT UP BEFORE. I WOULD SUGGEST TO PUT AN ITEM ON THE AGENDA THAT STATES THAT ONE MAY OR OR TWO COMMISSIONERS CAN PLACE AN ITEM ON THE AGENDA. AND TO CLARIFY THAT IT TAKES ONLY ONE COMMISSIONER TO PUT AN ITEM ON A WORKSHOP AGENDA, BUT IT TAKES ONLY TWO FOR IT TO MOVE OUT OF THE WORKSHOP INTO THE AGENDA ITEM. IF I HAVE A SECOND COMMISSIONER .

>> I WILL GIVE YOU A SECOND --

>> THAT BEING ONE SINGLE AGENDA ITEM FOR NEXT MEETING. THE SECOND AGENDA ITEM IS TO HAVE THE FIRST TUESDAY OF EVERY MONTH THAT WHEN WE HOLD OUR WORKSHOP, AND HE COMMISSIONER CAN PLACE AN ITEM ON THAT WORKSHOP. WERE ITEMS ON THE WORKSHOP. BUT THAT LAST FOR A MAXIMUM 45 MINUTES , AND THE LAST 15 MINUTES WOULD BE FOR PUBLIC COMMENT ON ANY ITEM THE PUBLIC WISHES TO COMMENT ON. IT DOES NOT HAVE TO BE ON THE ITEMS ON THE WORKSHOPS. IF THERE IS ONE ITEM AND IT ONLY TAKES 10 MINUTES, THE PUBLIC IS WELCOME TO COMMENT. OR ON ANY ITEM THEY WISH TO -- UP UNTIL THE MEETING AT 6:00.

>> THE FIRST TUESDAY, WHEN THERE ARE NO COMMISSION ITEMS THAT SO IS THAT TO BE OPEN FOR PUBLIC COMMENT?

>> I BELIEVE THAT IS WHAT WE KIND OF DISCUSSED, MAYOR?

>> YES, THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT IT MEANS.

>> IN THE LAST MEETING, WE WERE ASKED TO BE TRANSPARENT -- I SAID I NEVER MET OR TALKED TO ANYBODY FROM -- ONCE I STATED THAT, I HAD A REPRESENTATIVE FROM -- REACHOUT. I WENT DOWN AND SPOKE WITH THEM. I HAD A GOOD CONVERSATION. I WOULD ENCOURAGE ANYBODY WHO WANTS TO KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT -- , A GREAT COMPANY AND PARTNER IN OUR COMMUNITY, TO REACH OUT TO THEM. IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ON BIOETHANOL, THEY HAVE A WEBSITE DEDICATED TO A. THEY HAVE AN Q&A, THEY WILL ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU HAVE ON BIOETHANOL. AND THEY HAVE NO QUALMS ABOUT GIVING YOU ANY ANSWER YOU WANT. FURTHERMORE, I THINK YOU WILL SEE, AT LEAST FROM THIS COMMISSIONER, IT KEEPS COMING UP WE ARE NOT TAKING A POSITION AS A CITY. I THINK WE HAVE TAKEN A POSITION PLENTY OF TIMES. IT IS NO SECRET THAT -- IS IN THE TO SPEAK ABOUT A WHOLE BUNCH BECAUSE THEY ARE IN LITIGATION. I DON'T THINK IT'S TOO FAR OUT OF THE REALM, AND I THINK MR. BACH WOULD PROBABLY ADVISE THIS COMMISSION TO NOT TAKE A STANCE ON IT DUE TO ANY POTENTIAL LITIGATION THAT MAY COME FROM IT. WHEN YOU SEE THIS

[02:30:02]

-- >> THANK YOU. I WANT TO ISSUES OF CONDOLENCES TO THE FORMER UNITED DATE SECRETARY OF THE TREASURY, JONNA W SNOW. AND HIS WHOLE FAMILY ON THE RECENT PASSING OF HIS BELOVED WIFE. SHE WAS A DEVOTED MOTHER, WIFE, FRIEND, AND SUPPORT OF THE NASSAU COUNTY -- OF AGING, AND THE BOYS AND BOYS -- BOYS AND GIRLS CLUB. PLEASE KEEP THE FAMILY IN YOUR PRAYERS. YOU MIGHT HAVE SEEN, WE HAVE A BRAND-NEW FIRE TRUCK. IT IS OUT AND ABOUT. I HOPE TO INVITE EVERYONE SHORTLY TO THE GRAND OPENING OF OUR NEW FIRE STATION SOMETIME IN AUGUST. WE WILL UNVEIL OUR FIRE TRUCK AS WELL.

AND THEN, I WILL ALSO -- IT IS GOING TO BE A GREAT SHOW DOWN HERE ON THE WATERFRONT. FROM SIX TO NINE. THE ACTUAL CARNIVAL. THE EVENT. A LOT OF FUN TO BE HAD WITH YOU. 9:00 IS OUR TARGET TO GET THOSE FIREWORKS OUT. I WANT TO TAKE THE OPPORTUNITY TO THINK THE GOOD PEOPLE AT -- THEY DO AFFLUENT WORK, TWICE A YEAR. TO COME OUT FOR THE FOURTH AND FOR OUR NEW YEAR'S EVE -- THEY HAVE SOME OF THE BEST FIREWORKS. HAPPY FOUR

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.