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GOOD EVENING, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN BUT I'M GOING TO ORDER THIS MEETING OF THE FERNANDINA BEACH CITY COMMISSION BUT AS ALWAYS, WILL START WITH THE ROLE. -- HERE.

COMMISSIONER ANTUN. HERE. >> PLEASE STAND FOR THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE LED TONIGHT BY COMMISSIONER AYSCUE.

FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS ONE NATION UNDER GOD INDIVISIBLE WITH

LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. >> PLEASE REMAIN STANDING FOR THE INVOCATION TONIGHT BY REVEREND -- OF THE PRINCE CHAPEL AND NEW CHURCH. THANK YOU.

>> LET US PRAY. LORD GOD, CREATOR OF BOTH HEAVEN AND EARTH, WE CALLED THE OPENING OF THIS -- THIS GATHERING TO BRING THE BLESSINGS WHICH HAVE LAVISHED UPON US INDIVIDUALLY AND COLLECTIVELY. WE SAY THANK YOU, LORD GOD FOR THE FREEDOM TO MEET TOGETHER AND DISCUSS THE NEEDS OF NASSAU COUNTY.

LORD, WE SAY THANK YOU TO THOSE WHO HAVE WILLING HEARTS TO ASSUME THE RESPONSIBILITY BEFORE YOU TO LEAD AND DIRECT THE AFFAIRS AND BUSINESS OF NASSAU COUNTY AND TO SERVE IN A SACRED PUBLIC TRUST AS COMMISSIONERS READ LORD, BLESS THEM WITH PEACE IN THEIR LIVES, BOTH PUBLIC AND PRIVATE. WE ASK YOU, LORD, THAT WHAT OCCURS IN NASSAU COUNTY WILL BE SO ASTOUNDING IN YOUR BLESSINGS SO GREAT -- AND YOUR BLESSING SO GREAT, THAT THE COUPLE OVERFLOW TO EACH AND ALL OF THE CITIZENS AND ACROSS THE STATE OF FLORIDA. LORD, WE ASK THAT WHAT IS ABOUT TO TAKE PLACE HERE IN FERNANDINA BEACH WILL COMMAND THE ATTENTION OF MANY AND BRING AN INFLUX OF CAPITAL INVESTMENT AND RESOURCES COME UP WITH MATERIAL AND IMMATERIAL. THAT NASSAU COUNTY WILL BE AN EXAMPLE TO COUNTIES ACROSS THE LAND. WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE TO RECEIVE THE FAVOR AND BLESSINGS FROM YOUR LOVING HANDS TO WHICH OTHERS WOULD LOOK AND WISH TO EMULATE AND TO RECEIVE. LORD, THROUGH THE HOLY SPIRIT, GUIDE AND BLESS OUR COMMISSIONERS AND THE PUBLIC SERVANTS. GOD BLESS ALL OF US WITH THESE BLESSINGS AND MORE.

WE ASK THESE THINGS ALL IN THE NAME OF JESUS . AMEN.

[4.1 PROCLAMATION - "59TH ANNUAL ISLE OF EIGHT FLAGS SHRIMP FESTIVAL" – Proclaims May 3, 2024, through May 5, 2024, as the "59th Annual Isle of Eight Flags Shrimp Festival”. Members of the Isle of Eight Flags Shrimp Festival Committee will be present to accept the Proclamation.]

>> AMEN. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. YOU MAY BE SEATED. WE HAVE A FEW THINGS TO RECOGNIZE TONIGHT. NUMBER ONE. GET STARTED WITH THE SHRIMP FESTIVAL COMMITTEE. IT IS SHRIMP FAST COMING UP TO AN A!

>> ANYBODY ON THE COMMITTEE , COME ON DOWN. WE ARE GOING TO DO A SHRIMP FEST! PROCLAMATION. THAT IS YOU.

>>

>> THANK YOU. YOU'RE TAKING PICTURES. YOU HAVE GOT TO GET IN HERE TOO.

>> IT'S ALL GOOD. >> BEFORE I GET STARTED, WELL, I WILL READ THIS AND I WILL SAY A QUICK WORD. WHEREAS THE FIRST SHRIMP FEST! TOOK BACK IN 1964 FOR THE PROMOTION OF TOURISM AND TO RECOGNIZE THE CITY OF FERNANDINA BEACH AS THE BIRTHPLACE OF THE MODERN SHIPPING INDUSTRY. WHEREAS THE HUMBLE ORGANS OF THE SHRIMP FESTIVAL INCLUDED IN ANNUAL SHRIMP BOAT RAISED DURING WHICH THE STRIPPERS -- PREPARED SHRIMP DISHES. THIS IS THE LONGEST STANDING AND LARGEST SPECIAL EVENT. THE FESTIVAL CELEBRATES SHRIMP AND GREAT FOOD. VISITORS AND RESIDENTS ENJOY -- MUSIC, ENTERTAINMENT,, FINE ART , ON THAT MORE. . WHEREAS, THE SHRIMP FESTIVAL IS WANTED TO A NATIONALLY RECOGNIZED FESTIVAL THAT PROVIDES A FINANCIAL IMPACT IN EXCESS OF $60 MILLION TO OUR COMMUNITY. GREATER NASSAU COUNTY WE SAY THANK YOU FOR WHAT YOU DO. WHEREAS 2024 COMMEMORATES THE 59TH ANNUAL SHRIMP FESTIVAL WHICH WILL BE CELEBRATED ON MAY 3, 2024 THROUGH MAY 5. FERNANDINA BEACH AND -- WHEREAS THE ALL VOLUNTEER SHRIMP FEST COMMITTEE PARTNERS WITH FERNANDINA BEACH IN APPROXIMATELY 50 DIFFERENT LOCAL NONPROFIT ORGANIZATIONS TO ENCOURAGE COMMUNITY VOLUNTEERISM WHILE INSTILLING A SENSE OF PRIDE ARE WORKING TOGETHER FOR THE BENEFIT OF THE SHRIMP FESTIVAL. WHEREAS , THE CITY COMMISSION HERE BY EXPANDS ITS SINCERE APPRECIATION AND GRATITUDE TO THE SHRIMP FESTIVAL COMMITTEE FOR ITS

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DEDICATION IN KEEPING THE TIME-HONORED TRADITION AND REMINDERS OF THE SHIPPING INDUSTRY ALIKE. PRODUCING VISITORS TO THE GRACIOUS AMBIENCE OF DOWNTOWN FERNANDINA BEACH'S BEAUTIFUL DISTRICT AND THE RIVER. SO THERE FOR I, MAYOR BEAN, BY A AUTHORITY BASTED IN ME AS MAYOR OF OUR CITY TO CLAY MAE 3-5 THROUGH -- I ENCOURAGE EVERYONE TO GET OUT AND ENJOY A GOOD TIME. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR DOING THIS YOU BUT LET ME TELL YOU WHAT IS NOT GOOD ENOUGH RECOGNITION.

THAT IS THE COMMITTEE. EVERYBODY KNOWS HOW GREAT A TIME SHRIMP FESTIVAL IS.

THESE GUYS OUT HERE WORKING YEAR-ROUND. OUR TREASURE ALL THE TIME ABOUT DIFFERENT THINGS ABOUT THE SHRIMP FESTIVAL MEETINGS WITH THEY WORKED TIRELESSLY TO MAKE IT SUCH A GOOD TIME. MR. CHAIRMAN, WOULD YOU LIKE TO SAY A FEW WORDS?

>> THANK YOU. THANK YOU TO THE CITY AND TO THE MAYOR, FELLOW COMMISSIONERS. YOUR COMMISSIONERS.

>> WHAT I WOULD REALLY LIKE TO DO IS TAKE THIS MOMENT TO, MAYBE YOU CAN HELP ME PRESENT THIS PRESTIGIOUS AWARD TO OUR GRAND

MARSHAL. >> OH, WOW.

>> THIS IS CAPTAIN JACK BUBBA JOINER .

THIS MEDAL ON YOU HERE . >> THIS IS A VERY PRESTIGIOUS MEDAL.

WEAR THIS AND TELL THE END OF SHRIMP FEST.

>> ABOUT THREE WEEKS. >>

OVERLAPPING SPEAKERS ] >> ONE MORE TIME, LET'S GET THIS FINE GENTLEMAN TO TAKE OUR PICTURE. LET'S ]DO THIS! THANK YOU AGAIN TO OUR SHRIMP FESTIVAL GROUP AND

FOR ALL THEY DO! >> THIS ONE IS YOURS.

>> I AM GOING TO FRAME IT IN MY ROOM.

[4.2 PROCLAMATION - FERNANDINA BEACH HIGH SCHOOL WRESTLING TEAM - Recognizing the Fernandina Beach High School Wrestling Team for outstanding achievement. Head Coach Eric Kubatzke and State Champion Enzo Gamba, State Runner-Up Cael Kubatzke, 4th Place Cole Misciagna, and 5th Place Nolan McKelvy, will be in attendance to accept the Proclamation.]

>> I APPRECIATE YOU BEING HERE. THANK YOU, GUYS.

>> UP NEXT, WE HAVE, OH , IS THIS FOURTH IN THE STATE OF FLORIDA? THE PIRATES , THE WRESTLING TEAM, WENT ALL THE WAY IN THE STATE OF FLORIDA. LET'S INVITE EVERYONE TO COME ON DOWN. COACHES? CONGRATULATIONS. COACH, THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE. THANK YOU SO MUCH. CONGRATS. EVERYBODY GET IN HERE. CONGRATULATIONS.

IT IS GOOD TO SEE YOU, MY FRIEND. ALL RIGHT. OKAY.

WHEREAS THE FERNANDINA BEACH HIGH SCHOOL WRESTLING TEAM WAS ESTABLISHED IN THE MID-1970S AND A SENSE OF ALL TO A YOUTH PROGRAM AND EIGHT GIRL ABOUT THIS PROGRAM BUT EACH OF WHICH ARE KNOWN FOR PROMOTING PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY AND EMOTIONAL RESILIENCE WHEREAS WRESTLING HAS LONG BEEN DESCRIBED AS THE MOST DIFFICULT VIRTUAL MASTER AND REQUIRES AN EXCEPTIONAL LEVEL OF DEDICATION AND PERSEVERANCE TO PURSUE THIS SPORT. WHEREAS THE 2024 FERNANDINA BEACH HIGH SCHOOL WRESTLING TEAM ACHIEVED A -- ELITE STATUS AT THE FLORIDA HIGH SCHOOL ASSOCIATION 1A ASSOCIATION. KISSIMMEE, FLORIDA, WHERE -- WON THE STATE TITLE IN THE 157 POUND WEIGHT CLASS. KYLE -- THE STATE RUNNER-UP.

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>> KALE ONE BACK STATE RUNNER-UP IN THE 138 WEIGHT CLASS AND COAL -- 144 POUND WEIGHT CLASS AND THEN NOLAN PLACED FIFTH IN STATE IN THE 175 POUND WEIGHT CLASS. THANK YOU SO MUCH, SIR.

WHEREAS -- OH. >>

>> WHOLE THING. WHEREAS UNDER THE LEADERSHIP AND MEDICATION OF THE HEAD COACH, ERIC -- THE ENTIRE WRESTLING TEAM IMPEDED AND ONE BACK OF WRITING OF WRESTLING COMPETITIONS THROUGHOUT 2024, CULMINATING IN SEVENTH OVERALL IN THE STATE OF FLORIDA. THAT IS AMAZING NEWS. PLEASE GIVE IT UP.

APPLAUSE ] WHEREAS THE WRESTLING TEAM IS A MODEL OF

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EXCELLENCE, CONSISTENCY , DISCIPLINE. THEY SAY THAT MENTAL AND PHYSICAL CONDITIONING WHICH ENABLES THEM TO REMAIN POISED, CONFIDENT, AND ABLE TO EXECUTE UNDER COMPETITIVE TREASURE. THERE'S UNWAVERING PRIDE AND SELF-GOVERNANCE HELP DEVELOPS CHILDREN INTO ADULTS AND FUTURE LEADERS WOULD THE VESTED IN ME AS MAYOR FOR CITY, I DO HERE BY EXPRESS SINCERE CONGRATULATIONS TO THE FERNANDINA BEACH HIGH SCHOOL MEN'S WRESTLING TEAM. I HAVE FIXED MY ZEAL TO THAT EFFECT. THANK YOU SO MUCH, GUYS AND COACH.

BEAN. WE REALLY APPRECIATE IT .

FROM THE COMMUNITY. THE ADMINISTRATION OF THE FERNANDINA BEACH AND MIDDLE SCHOOL PROGRAM THIS YEAR. THE PROGRAM THIS YEAR. IT IS REALLY BEEN -- SUCH A GOOD SPORT FOR THESE KIDS READ THE LIFE LESSONS THEY LEARNED FROM THE HARD WORK AND DEDICATION IS ONE OF THE BEST THINGS WE SEE. THE GUYS TAKE IT TO ANOTHER LEVEL.

TRULY WORKED SO HARD. THESE GUYS ARE GREAT. THEY ARE EXCEPTIONAL STUDENTS. THE THREE GUYS UP HERE. DEFINITELY A FOUNDATION THESE GUYS. THANK YOU AGAIN FOR RECOGNIZING THEM. I REALLY

APPRECIATE IT >> WOULD YOU LIKE TO COME OVER HERE AND TAKE A QUICK PICTURE? WE WILL RE-ENACT THE PROCLAMATION.

TO SEE YOU. >> PERFECTLY THANK YOU SO MUCH, GUYS. THANK YOU, COACH.

>> I CONVINCED --

[4.3 PROCLAMATION - "NATIONAL ARBOR DAY" - Recognizing April 19, 2024, as "National Arbor Day." Planning and Conservation Department Urban Forester/Arborist David Neville and Amelia Tree Conservancy members will be in attendance to accept the Proclamation.]

ALL GOOD. ONE FINAL ONE. THE -- ATC IS HERE. COME ON DOWN.

WE ARE SO GLAD YOU GUYS ARE ALL HERE. HEY, WELCOME. THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE. IT IS A REAL PLEASURE TO HAVE YOU GUYS.

>> OKAY. I WISH YOU WOULD HAVE BEEN HERE TOO. ABSOLUTELY.

PROCLAMATION. WHEREAS IN 1872, -- PROPOSE TO THE BORDER, THE SPECIALTY BE SET ASIDE FOR THE PLANTING OF TREES BUT WHEREAS ENHANCING ECONOMIC VITALITY TO PROTECT IN HURRICANES AND STORMS, REDUCED WATER RUNOFF AND HELP TO RECHARGE THE GROUNDWATER USING -- REDUCING TEMPERATURES PROVIDE EXCEPTIONAL HABITAT -- TREES ARE A RENEWABLE RESOURCE INAUDIBLE ] CELLULOSE FIBERS WHICH ARE USED IN THOUSANDS OF PRODUCTS THAT ARE DIRECTLY AND INDIRECTLY MEETING THE NEEDS OF ENHANCING THE COMMITTEE. WHEREAS, THE CITY CELEBRATES ITS 22ND YEAR AS A DESIGNATED TREE CITY USA COMMUNITY. IT'S THIRD YEAR OF RECEIVING A GROWTH AWARD. THE SECOND YEAR OF THE DESIGNATED CITIES OF THE WORLD DOMINATION. WITHOUT A LOT OF THREE VICTORIES BUT I THINK THAT IS THANKS TO ALL OF THE ARBORISTS. DAVE, WE'LL KEEP GOING. THE FERNANDINA BEACH BEACHES -- AS OUR UNIQUE MARITIME FORCE READ AS SUCH, THIS YEAR THE TREE CONSERVANCY IS TO SUPPORT THE -- FELLOW TREE CANOPY WITH MAINTENANCE PRUNING AND THE PLANTING OF 22 NEW TREES, INCLUDING -- LIVE OAKS, PALM TREES, AND SOUTHERN MAGNOLIA TREES. I, BRADLEY BEAN, BY THE POWER INTEND EVERYONE TO ATTEND THE CELEBRATION THAT FRIDAY AT 10:00 A.M. AT THE CEMETERY TO APPRECIATE THE BEAUTY OF THESE NEW TREES. WITH THAT, PLEASE PUT YOUR HANDS TOGETHER FOR APPLAUSE ]OUR TREE CONSERVANCY.

>> WOULD YOU LIKE TO SAY A FEW WORDS?

>> THANK YOU FOR YOUR SUPPORT WITH OUR TREE CANOPY, EVERYONE.

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THANK YOU TO THE TREE CONSERVANCY. WE WILL PLANT 20 TREES FROM THERE. WE HAVE TWO EXTRA TREES BEING DELIVERED TOMORROW. KELLY SAID WHAT A BETTER IDEA THAN -- THE 22ND YEAR OF OUR TREE CITY USA. IT IS A REALLY BEAUTIFUL PLACE BUT AS THOSE TREES ARE STARTING TO AGE OUT AND MATURE, SOME ARE COMING DOWN IN STORMS AND STUFF. HE WILL TRY TO REPLENISH THOSE TREES.

IT IS KIND OF HARD TO GET TO THESE TREES THAT ARE IN THE MIDDLE OF THE CEMETERY. SO IT WAS A NICE WAY WE COULD INAUDIBLE ] DID YOU WANT TO SAY ANYTHING?

>> I WANTED TO SAY THANK YOU, MAYOR BEAN, AND COMMISSIONERS , FOR THE PROCLAMATION. I WANTED TO SAY THANK YOU ALSO TO THE FUNDING WE GOT THROUGH THE -- THAT MADE THIS POSSIBLE. AND IN PARTNERSHIP WITH THE TREE CRAFT WE GOT FROM THE CITY. IT WAS TRULY I FINANCIAL PARTNERSHIP. I ALSO WANTED TO RECOGNIZE THE WORK OF THE CITY STAFF. DAVID AND THE PLANNING AND CONSERVATION DEPARTMENT. AND THE PARKS AND REC DEPARTMENT. SCOTT MICHELSON AND DEBRA. THEY DID ALL THE HEAVY LIFTING. WE ARE SO FULL FOR THAT. IT WAS EXCELLENT.

PLEASE COME OUT TO CELEBRATE ARBOR DAY WITH US ON NEXT FRIDAY. 10:00 A.M.. IT IS A GORGEOUS SPOT. THANK YOU.

>> BEFORE YOU GO, WOULD YOU PLEASE COME TAKE A PICTURE RIGHT HERE, FRONT AND CENTER? ÚTHAT IS PART OF THE ROLES.

LAUGHTER ] MICHELLE, DO YOU WANT TO TAKE THAT REAL QUICK? SHRIMP FEST COMMITTEE. VOLUNTEERING MEANS A LOT AND THAT IS WHY OUR COMMUNITY IS SO GREAT THAT THERE IS SO MANY PEOPLE THAT WORK TO MAKE OUR COMMUNITY BETTER. I THINK THE COACH, YOU ARE VOLUNTEERING, YES?

>> . THEY WORK THEY DO IS ENTIRELY BECAUSE THEY LOVE NATURE.

THANK YOU FOR ALL THAT YOU DO.

TERMS OF THE MEETING. ITEM FIVE. THE CONSENT AGENDA. YOU

ARE ALLOWED TO LEAVE. >> MAYOR?

>> YES? >>

>> WE CANNOT FORGET THAT. THIS IS A VERY KEY PART OF THE

[4.4 BUDGET SUMMARY - Comptroller Pauline Testagrose will answer any questions regarding the budget summary for March 2024.]

MEETING. ON THE BUDGET SUMMARY.

>> GOOD EVENING. CALLING -- CITY COMPTROLLER. THE SIX-MONTH REPRESENTS 80% OF THE -- THE GENERAL FUND YOUR DATE IS AT 76.6% OF THE ANNUAL BUDGET.

YEAR-TO-DATE PROPERTY TAX RECEIPTS ARE 70 MILLION OR 92.4%. OVERALL YEAR-TO-DATE GENERAL EXPENSES ARE 37.8%.

HOWEVER, SOME DEPARTMENTS ARE OVER THE MARK DUE TO THE ANNUAL SERVICE. ALL THE -- COMPLETED. FOR THE FUN, ENCUMBRANCES AND PAYMENTS HAVE BEEN ISSUED FOR I.T. EQUIPMENT, STREET PAVING AND

[5. CONSENT AGENDA]

[6.1 CIVIC ORGANIZATION FEE WAIVER/COSPONSORSHIP APPLICATION APPROVAL - FERNANDINA BEACH MAIN STREET - RESOLUTION 2024-65 APPROVING A FERNANDINA BEACH MAIN STREET CIVIC ORGANIZATION FEE WAIVER/COSPONSORSHIP APPLICATION FOR THE FERNANDINA 200 BICENTENNIAL IN THE AMOUNT OF $8,965.00; AUTHORIZING EXECUTION; AND PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE. Synopsis: Approves the Fernandina Beach Main Street Civic Organization Fee Waiver/Cosponsorship Application for the Fernandina 200 Bicentennial in the amount of $8,965.00, for City support and in celebration of a commemorative year of events and observances.]

[6.2 DONATION OF SURPLUS PROPERTY - RESOLUTION 2024-66 DECLARING CERTAIN TITLED CITY PROPERTY SURPLUS; AUTHORIZING THE INTERIM CITY MANAGER TO DISPOSE OF SAID PROPERTY IN A MANNER CONSISTENT WITH THE CITY’S POLICIES AND PROCEDURES; AND PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE. Synopsis: Donation of Unit #97, a 2017 Ford Explorer, to the Nassau County School Board.]

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SAVES US A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF MONEY. I THINK IT'S ABOUT $35,000 PER CAR. EACH OFFICER.

>> THAT IS ABOUT WHAT A CAR COST ESTIMATE IS VERY VALUABLE TO RESPITE AND ALLOWS US TO SPEND THAT MONEY NO ON THAT TECHNOLOGY TO HELP KEEP OUR SCHOOL SAFE. SO IT IS REALLY A TREMENDOUS THING. WE APPRECIATE THE SUPPORT FROM THE CITY COMMISSION. WE APPRECIATE THE SUPPORT FROM THE FERNANDINA BEACH POLICE DEPARTMENT. THE CHIEF , THERE HAS NOT BEEN A PHONE CALL I HAVE MADE THAT IS BEEN UNANSWERED BUT ANYTHING I HAVE ASKED OF THEM, HE HAS STEPPED UP AND HELPED. WE TAKE THIS JOB TO HARTFORD WE CANNOT DO IT WITHOUT THE HELP OF THE COMMUNITY. IT IS A MONUMENTAL TASK YOU HAVE OVER 15,000 STUDENTS AND OVER 1500 EMPLOYEES. IN NASSAU COUNTY. THAT IS A MONUMENTAL TASK AND WE CANNOT DO IT WITHOUT THIS BOARD AND WITHOUT THE SUPPORT OF OUR LAW ENFORCEMENT PARTNERS. I THINK THANK YOU TO

THE CHIEF FOR HIS SUPPORT. >> FOR THE WORK IS DONE AT THIS DONATION AND I SAY THANK YOU TO ALL OF YOU AND WAS GOING TO SAY THANK YOU TO THE CHIEF FOR ALL YOU DO.

SCHOOL BOARD. IN THAT THANK YOU.

>> I HAVE ONE QUESTION. EVERYTHING YOU JUST SAID THERE.

SO CHIEF, WHAT YOU ARE SAYING IS THAT THIS DONATION WILL HELP

YOU KEEP OUR KIDS SAFE? >> ABSOLUTELY. IT SAVES US MONEY WHICH WE WOULD BE ALLOWED TO APPLY IN OTHER AREAS .

SAID THAT THANK YOU FOR BEING WITH US TONIGHT, CHIEF. DO I

HAVE A MOTION? >> I PROMOTION AND A SECOND.

ANY DISCUSSION?

[6.3 ATHLETIC FACILITIES USE AGREEMENT - DIOCESE OF ST. AUGUSTINE (ST. MICHAEL'S ACADEMY) - RESOLUTION 2024-67 APPROVING AN ATHLETIC FACILITIES USE AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE CITY OF FERNANDINA BEACH AND DIOCESE OF ST. AUGUSTINE (ST. MICHAEL’S ACADEMY) FOR THE USE OF THE PECK CENTER COACH NELSON P. WILLIAMS, JR GYMNASIUM AND YBOR ALVAREZ SPORTS COMPLEX; AUTHORIZING EXECUTION; AND PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE. Synopsis: Approving two Athletic Facilities Use Agreements between the City of Fernandina Beach and Diocese of St. Augustine (St. Michael's Academy) for the use of the Peck Center Coach Nelson P. Williams, Jr. Gymnasium and Ybor Alvarez Sports Complex from January 1, 2024, to December 31, 2024.]

[6.4 PROTECTED HERITAGE TREE DESIGNATIONS – VARIOUS CITY LOCATIONS - RESOLUTION 2024-68 DESIGNATING A TOTAL OF TEN (10) TREES AS FOLLOWS: EIGHT (8) PRIVATE PROPERTIES LOCATED AT 404 S. 15TH STREET, 213 N. 19TH STREET, 432 S. 8TH STREET, 226 S. 7TH STREET, 1532 DADE STREET, 1521 FRANKLIN STREET, 103 S. 9TH STREET, 831 GARDEN STREET; AND TWO (2) PUBLIC RIGHTS OF WAY NEAR 808 STANLEY DRIVE AND 810 STANLEY DRIVE; AS PROTECTED HERITAGE TREES; AND PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE. Synopsis: Approves the designation of "Protected Heritage Tree" to eight (8) trees located on private properties and two (2) trees located on City right of ways in accordance with Land Development Code Section 4.05.15.]

[6.5 (Quasi-Judicial) - APPEAL - UNAUTHORIZED TREE REMOVAL FINES - RESOLUTION 2024-69 APPROVING A REDUCTION OF UNAUTHORIZED TREE REMOVAL FINES IN THE AMOUNT OF $_________ FOR PROPERTY LOCATED AT 901 SAN FERNANDO STREET; AND PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE. Synopsis: Reduces unauthorized tree removal fines up to $41,000, for trees removed without a permit at 901 San Fernando Street, due to the trees removed being located within the boundaries of a proposed single family home footprint.]

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WILL THAT TOOK PLACE. WE CONTRACTED DAVID NEVILLE FOR A PURCHASE AT 901 -- STREET IN OLD TOWN. WE WANTED TO SEE IF HE WOULD WALK A LOT AND TELL US WHAT WE NEED TO DO IN ORDER TO BUILD A HOME.

WE WERE TOLD THE LARD CEDAR HUCKLEBERRY TREE COULD BE

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CONDEMNED WITHOUT REPLACEMENT AND HE WOULD HAVE TO REPLACE THE TREES THAT WOULD NOT BE CONDEMNED VIA CERTIFIED ARBORIST. VERY HELPFUL IN EXPLAINING TO US HOW MANY TREES WE WOULD MOST LIKELY NEED TO HAVE REPLACED. EXCUSE ME.

FEBRUARY 2ND OF 2023, WE CLOSED ON THIS LOT . STARTED THE PROCESS OF FINDING A HOUSE PLAN.

MET THE CRITERIA AND LOOKING FOR A BUILDER. ON OCTOBER 16, 2023, -- LANDSCAPING SURVEY FINALIZED OUR BOUNDARY TOPOGRAPHIC ENTRY SURVEY. ON OCTOBER 19, 2023, WE HIRED SAM FURR TREE SERVICE TO MARK ALL TREES THAT THEY SUGGESTED BE CONDEMNED WITH THEIR CERTIFIED ARBORIST FOR DAVID MARTIN AND TWO -- THAT HE WOULD NOT CONDEMN IT. WHEN MEETING WITH MR. MARTIN, HE STATED WE WOULD NOT NEED A PERMIT IN ORDER TO CUT DOWN THE CONDEMNED TREES. WHALEY NEEDED HIS OFFICIAL QUOTE UNQUOTE TREE REMOVAL REPORT. WITH GREAT CONCERN, I FELT THIS MAY NOT BE CORRECTLY IMMEDIATELY LEFT THE ARBORIST REPORT INADEQUATE DIRECTLY TO THE CITY HERE COULD IN ORDER TO MAKE SURE THAT WE DID NOT NEED PERMITS. UPON ARRIVAL AT THE CITY, WE WERE SPEAKING WITH THE RECEPTIONIST AND ASKING WE NEED TO SPEAK WITH IN ORDER TO IF WE NEEDED SUCH A PERMIT TO CUT DOWN TREES ON OUR PROPERTY. AT WHICH TIME, KELLY GIBSON INTRODUCED HERSELF AND STATED THAT MR. MARTIN WAS CORRECT. WE DID NOT QUOTE UNQUOTE NEED A PERMIT AS LONG AS WE HAD THE CONDEMNED TREE REPORT. HOWEVER, SHE ALSO STATED IT WOULD BE A GOOD GESTURE TO GET ONE ANYWAY. SOMEONE WILL COMPLAIN WHEN THE TREES STARTED COMING DOWN. WE DEFINITELY WERE NOT REQUIRED TO HAVE ONE. ON OCTOBER 20, 2024, WE RECEIVED A CALL FROM SANFORD TREE SERVICE THAT HAD A CANCELLATION AND BE ABLE TO CUT DOWN THE TREES ON OCTOBER 25TH THAT WE WERE OUT OF TOWN AT THE TIME BUT IT FELT LIKE THERE WOULD BE NO ISSUE WITH THEM GOING AHEAD AND TAKING DOWN THE TREES AT THAT TIME. ON OCTOBER 27TH AT 10:00 A.M., I HAD A MEETING WITH ESTHER SALVADOR. I WILL PUTS HER HIS NAME. SO SORRY. TO DISCUSS THE NEXT STEP IN OUR PROCESS.

ONCE AGAIN WANTING TO MAKE SURE WE WERE FOLOWING ALL THE RULES. AS HE MET WITH ESTHER NEVILLE WHO WAS QUITE UPSET WITH US FOR REMOVING THE TREES WITHOUT A PERMIT, HE STATED WE WERE IN QUITE A BIT OF TROUBLE. AND THAT HE WOULD NOT SPEAK ON IT ANY FURTHER AS IT HAD BEEN TURNED OVER TO THE CITY ATTORNEY. THREE MONTHS LATER ON FEBRUARY 13TH AT 9:00 A.M., MY HUSBAND AND I MET WITH KELLY GIBSON, DAVID NEVILLE, AND CHARLIE CHARGE IN ORDER TO DISCUSS THIS TREE ISSUE. ALL AGREE IT WAS A HUGE MISUNDERSTANDING AND MISCOMMUNICATION. WE ASSURE THEM WE ARE RULE FOLLOWERS. WE WOULD NEVER WANT TO DO SOMETHING SO BLATANT AS TO REMOVE TREES WITHOUT BEING LAWFUL.

THAT THANK YOU. ANY QUESTIONS FOR -- YEAH. COMMISSIONER

ROSS? >> FIRST OF ALL -- AN ACTUALLY HAVING A CONDITION SO I APOLOGIZE.

>> MY UNDERSTANDING IS THE CITY STAFF THAT YOU DID NOT NEED A PERMIT TO CUT THESE TREES DOWN.

>> CORRECT. >> 100%.

>> AND IN ALL FAIRNESS, WHAT MRS. GIBSON , WHAT WE ASKED AND WE NEVER THOUGHT TO TELL, BECAUSE WE DO NOT DO THIS. YOU DO NOT NEED A PERMIT IF YOU HAVE A HOUSE ON THE PROPERTY.

THIS WAS A LOT. WE STATED IT WAS A LOT.

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APPLICANT HAS SAID IS, THEY DID NOT NEED A TREE PERMIT. IS THAT

CORRECT? >> WHAT I INFORMED WAS, SO LONG AS THEY MET THE FLORIDA STATUTES AND HAD THE ARBORIST ASSESS THE TREE CORRECTLY AND COMPLIANT WITH THE STATUTE, THEY WOULD NOT REQUIRE A LOCAL PERMIT. THAT'S WHAT THE STATUTE TELLS US. WE CANNOT REQUIRE A RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY OWNER TO OBTAIN A TREE REMOVAL PERMIT IF THEY HAVE MET THE STATUTE FOR -- THAT THE TREE IS HAZARDOUS ON THEIR PROPERTY.

>> HERE IS WHERE I AM HAVING MY PROBLEM. IF YOU CAN HELP ME OUT -- THE PROBLEM IS, THEY WOULD'VE GOTTEN A PERMIT IF THEY NEEDED. ONCE THEY CUT THE TREE DOWN, YOU TOLD THEM THEY NEEDED A PERMIT. SO, THERE'S ONE SET OF FACTS. THERE ARE A COUPLE STORIES HERE. I'M TRYING TO UNDERSTAND -- I'M NOT UNDERSTANDING WHAT HAPPENED.

>> IT IS CONFUSING. >> OKAY. IN THE CITY LIMITS,

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YOU ARE REQUIRED TO HAVE A PERMIT FOR TREE REMOVAL IF IT IS 5 INCHES, DBH OR GREATER UNLESS IT'S AN INVASIVE TREE.

>> OKAY. >> THE STATUTE IS 160 THAT SAYS NO CITY ORDINANCE CAN STOP A TREE FROM BEING REMOVED IF A CERTIFIED -- I SAY CERTIFIED ARTIFICE RIGHTS AN ASSESSMENT SAYING THE TREE IS A MODERATE RISK OR GREATER. AND ONLY TOTAL REMOVAL OF THE TREE IS THE ONLY WAY TO ALLEVIATE THE RISK OF THE PROPERTY OWNER. SO, IN THIS CASE, MR. MARTIN WROTE THE ASSESSMENT OF THESE TREES BECAUSE THESE TREES WERE, BY HIS STANDARDS AND MINE AS WELL, CONSIDERED TO BE A HAZARD IF THERE WAS A STRUCTURE THERE. NOW, THE PROBLEM WAS, THIS WAS A VACANT LOT. THERE WAS NO MODERATE RISK BECAUSE THERE IS NO RISK AT ALL TO A VACANT LOT. THE TREE FALLS, IT'S A VACANT LOT. SO WHAT IS GIBSON TOLD THEM IS, YOU MEET THE STANDARDS, YOU DON'T NEED A PERMIT. AND IT IS VERY CONFUSING. I UNDERSTAND THEIR CONFUSION IN THIS BECAUSE IT IS ONE OR THE OTHER. IN THIS CASE, IT IS JUST SUPER CONFUSING. I DO FEEL BAD FOR THEM. THAT'S WHY --

>> I FEEL BAD FOR EVERYBODY. I AM STILL CONFUSED.

>> OKAY. >> WHY DID THEY GET THE IDEA IN HER HEAD THEY DIDN'T NEED A PERMIT IF THEY NEEDED THE PERMIT? OBVIOUSLY, THEY NEEDED A PERMIT BECAUSE YOU CAME BACK AND CITED THEM FOR NEEDING A PERMIT. SO HOW -- WHAT I AM

TRYING TO DO IS -- ♪ >> SORRY.

>> VICE MAYOR -- HEY, LISTEN. GO AHEAD.

>> SO, WHAT I AM NOT UNDERSTANDING, NUMBER ONE, IS TONIGHT -- NUMBER TWO, WHAT I AM TRYING TO SEE IS HOW WE CAN PREVENT THIS FROM HAPPENING IN THE FUTURE. THAT IS MORE IMPORTANT. IT IS JUST AS IMPORTANT. CAN YOU HELP ME

OUT? >> OKAY, SO, THE REASON WHY THERE WAS CONFUSION WAS THERE WAS NO BUILDING PERMIT. THAT'S HOW THE TREE MOVED. THERE WAS NO MODERATE RISK OR GREATER BECAUSE THERE WAS NO BUILDING THERE. THERE IS NO RISK TO PEOPLE ON A VACANT LOT. THERE IS NOBODY THERE. AND NUMBER THREE, THERE IS NO PERMIT ISSUE FOR TREE REMOVAL PERMIT. THEY WERE UNDER THE ASSUMPTION. THEY HAD TWO DIFFERENT ARBORIST'S OUT THERE, BOTH SAYING THESE TREES ARE A HAZARD . BUT IT IS A HAZARD IF THERE WERE PEOPLE THERE. THERE ARE NO PEOPLE THERE. SO IT'S NOT A MODERATE RISK OR GREATER. SO, IT'S A TECHNICALITY, WHICH IS WHAT IS HOLDING THIS UP, IS A TECHNICALITY ON THE VERGE -- THE VERBIAGE OF THE STATE

STATUTE. >> WHAT I'M NOT UNDERSTANDING,

HOW DO WE CONVINCE THEM? >> IT SOUNDS TO ME LIKE A -- WHEN THE CITY STAFF GAVE THE INFORMATION, I AM NOT TESTIFYING TO HELP THE CITY COMMISSION. IT IS THEIR COUNSEL. IT SOUNDS TO ME, WHEN THE CITY STAFF GOT THE QUESTION, CITY STAFF MAY OR MAY NOT HAVE BEEN AWARE IT WAS A VACANT LOT. OH, THEN IT WAS IN PERSON? YEAH. SO, MAYBE WE NEED TO ASK CITY STAFF. DID THEY KNOW THERE WAS A HOUSE?

>> NO. REAL QUICK, MR. ROSS, LET'S GO AHEAD AND GO WITH THE VICE MAYOR REAL QUICK TO SPEAK REAL FAST. THEN WE WILL GO BACK

TO THE COMMISSIONER. >> THANK YOU, MAYOR. REAL QUICKLY, IT SOUNDS LIKE THERE IS A BIG MISCOMMUNICATION. IT SOUNDS LIKE, TO ME, I'M GOING TO SAY -- I WILL POUR MY PLUG OUT OF MY MOUTH AND SAY IT SOUNDS LIKE CITY STAFF NEEDS MORE TRAINING ON THE ANSWER OR THE QUESTIONING OF THE PERSON COMING IN UNLESS -- I AM HEARING SOMETHING WRONG? CITY STAFF NEEDS TO SAY, HEY, IS THIS A VACANT LOT? DOES THIS HAVE A STRUCTURE? IF THIS IS A VACANT LOT, YOU HAVE TO FOLLOW PROCEDURE AND GET A PERMIT FIRST. I, PERSONALLY, MYSELF, AM VERY WELL AWARE OF THIS AS A BUILDER. THE PUBLIC IS NOT WELL AWARE OF IT. TO ME, IT SOUNDS LIKE THIS IS A SLIGHT MISCOMMUNICATION ERROR THAT COULD BE FIXED AND NOT HAPPEN AGAIN. MAYBE EVEN IF WE HAD A PIECE OF PAPER , BECAUSE I HAVE BEEN A BUILDER. I KNOW WITH THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT IF YOU HAVE A PIECE OF PAPER WITH THE RULES IN BIG, BOLD PRINT, AND HAND IT

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OUT EVERY TIME SOMEONE ASKS ABOUT A TREE ISSUE, THIS IS A TOUCHY SUBJECT. A LOT OF PEOPLE DO GET PROBLEMS. THIS IS NOT THE FIRST TIME THIS HAS HAPPENED. THIS IS NOT NEW. THIS HAPPENS MANY A TIMES WHERE SOMEONE WILL CUT TREES DOWN AND THEY DON'T HAVE PERMISSION. EVEN A DEAD TREE IS SUPPOSED TO HAVE A PERMIT. EVERYONE IS SUPPOSED TO HAVE A PERMIT

REGARDLESS. CORRECT? >> THAT IS CORRECT. THE WAY WE HAVE ALLEVIATED THIS IN THE PAST, MR. ROSS, THE WAY WE CONTINUE, WE DON'T ALLOW TREE REMOVAL PRIOR TO A BUILDING PERMIT ON A VACANT LOT. THAT IS BECAUSE THEY CAN SAY, THIS IS WHERE WE ARE GOING TO BUILD OUR HOUSE, ET CETERA, THIS IS THE SIDES, THIS IS WHERE WE WILL PUT IT. THEY CLEAR THE TREES.

THEY GO THROUGH THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT OR THEY GO THROUGH THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT, AND THE SETBACKS ARE NOT CORRECT.

THEN THE HOUSE NEEDS TO BE ADJUSTED FOR THAT. AND THE TREES HAVE ALREADY BEEN REMOVED. THAT'S WHY WE DON'T

ALLOW TREE VAL -- >> PLANS CAN CHANGE ALL THE

TIME. >> CORRECT. WITHOUT THE BUILDING PERMIT, WE DON'T ALLOW TREE REMOVAL. WE ALLOW BRUSH CUTTING, THINGS LESS THAN 5 INCHES, BUT 5 INCHES OR GREATER, WE DON'T ALLOW TO BE CUT PRIOR TO THE PERMIT.

>> DID YOU TELL THEM THAT? >> I DID NOT.

>> I DAY. >> SO YOU DID TELL THEM?

>> I WILL BE VERY CLEAR. FOR THE RECORD, WE -- WHERE THE BREAKDOWN IN COMMUNICATION OCCURRED, WHAT THE ASSESSMENT WAS AFTER THE TREES HAD BEEN REMOVED. IT INDICATED THERE WAS A MODERATE RISK AT THAT POINT FOR THOSE TREES UNDER THE ASSUMPTION THAT THERE WAS A STRUCTURE LOCATED THERE. WHEN SPEAKING WITH THE MANTISES, I SO INDICATED IF THE ARBORIST REPORT WAS COMPLIANT WITH STATE STATUTE IN THIS CASE AND IS OUTLINED IN THE BACKGROUND MATERIAL, THE ARBORIST REPORT PROVIDED WAS NOT COMPLIANT WITH THE STATE STATUTE. THAT IS WHERE THE BREAKDOWN OCCURRED. OTHERWISE, IT WAS RECOMMENDED, PLEASE REMOVE THE TREES AT THE TIME A BUILDING PERMIT IS ISSUED. IT IS THE ONLY WAY FOR US TO PROPERLY VALIDATE EVERYTHING. AND, IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO MOVE FORWARD WITH IT PRIOR TO THAT, LET US ISSUE A COURTESY PERMIT SO WE CAN ENTER THE DOCUMENTATION PROVIDED TO US IS SUFFICIENT TO MEET

FLORIDA STATUTE. >> THANK YOU, MISS IBSEN.

COMMISSIONER ROSS, ANY QUESTIONS , ANY FURTHER

QUESTIONS? >> I JUST THINK WE NEED A LITTLE MORE PROCEDURE. AND I HATE TO SAY THAT. JUST DEFINING IN DETAIL IF THERE'S NOT SUPPOSED TO BE A STRUCTURE, THE PUBLIC IS NOT GOING TO KNOW THAT. THE ARBORIST SHOULD KNOW THAT. HOWEVER, THE PUBLIC IS NOT GOING TO KNOW THAT. AND IF THE TREES WERE DISEASED, OR THEY NEEDED TO BE REMOVED, REGARDLESS WHETHER THERE IS A HOUSE OR NOT, THEY STILL SHOULD'VE HAD A PERMIT. HOWEVER, THE COMMUNICATION HAS TO BE CRYSTAL CLEAR. I JUST THINK IT IS SOME VERY BAD MISCOMMUNICATION. AND I DON'T THINK IT IS 100% THE STAFF'S FAULT. I DON'T THINK IT'S 100% THE OWNERS FAULT. I THINK THIS IS A COMBINATION. THAT'S MY PERSONAL OPINION. I HAVE A HARD TIME NOT UNDERSTANDING AS LONG AS THE FOOTPRINT FALLS HERE, HOPEFULLY, TO RESOLVE THIS AND MOVE ON. HOWEVER, I DO WANT TO SAY I THINK WE NEED TO BRUSH UP SOME SORT OF PROCEDURE WITH ALL STAFF THAT ARE DEALING WITH ANSWERING CALLS

ABOUT TREES. >> WE CAN ALWAYS MAKE

IMPROVEMENTS. SO -- >> THANK YOU, VICE MAYOR. WE ARE COMING TO YOU IN A SECOND. MR. ROSS, YOU HAVE FOLLOW-UP

QUESTIONS THERE. >> I HAVE COMMENTS LATER, BUT

NO FOLLOW-UP QUESTIONS. >> LET'S GO TO COMMISSIONER

ANTON. >> YEAH. WE WENT TO THE EXTENT OF WHAT WE ALREADY DISCUSSED. IT SEEMS LIKE IT'S DEFINITELY A FLAW IN OUR PROCESS. WHETHER OR NOT WHAT YOU DESCRIBED IS THE FLAW YOU NEED CLEARED UP OR AS VICE MAYOR SAID, A SHEET THAT SAYS HERE'S A CHECKLIST, THAT WAY IF YOU DON'T CHECK ONE OF THESE MOVING FORWARD -- BECAUSE I CAN SAY FROM PERSONAL EXPERIENCE, I KNOW THIS IS DEFINITELY SOMETHING AS A RESIDENT WHO WALKS TO THE CITY STAFF, THERE'S NO WAY THEY KNOW ALL THE THINGS THAT WE KNOW HERE.

>> THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER. COMMISSIONER SQ?

>> I WANT CLARIFICATION ON THE STATUTE AND THE CODE. THE STATUTE SAYS THAT YOU CAN REMOVE THE TREE THAT IS DEEMED DANGEROUS . THAT'S WHAT THE STATUTE SAYS. FLORIDA STATUTE.

>> THE STATUTE READS , A TREE CAN BE REMOVED WITHOUT A PERMIT ISSUED BY THE CITY IF THE EISA CERTIFIED ARBORIST STATES THAT THE TREE IS DEEMED A MODERATE RISK OR GREATER TO THE HOMEOWNER, AND THE ONLY WAY TO ALLEVIATE THAT MODERATE OR GREAT RISK IS BY TOTAL REMOVAL OF THE TREE, NOT JUST THE LAND BEING TRIMMED OFF OR ANYTHING. THE RISK IS MODERATE OR GREATER. THE ONLY WAY TO ALLEVIATE THE RISK IS TOTAL

REMOVAL OF THE TREE. >> OKAY. SO, WHETHER THERE'S

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A HOUSE ON IT OR NOT, THE STATUTE SAYS YOU CAN REMOVE IT . THAT'S WHAT THE ARBORIST SAYS?

>> YES. IT'S AS RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY. IT DOESN'T STATE IF THERE HAS TO BE A STRUCTURE ON IT. IT IS MODERATE BY EISA STANDARDS. THERE WOULD HAVE TO BE A TARGET THERE.

>> YOU BRING IN AN ARBORIST. HE SAYS, I THINK THIS IS A RISK.

-- >> WHETHER THERE'S A HOUSE ON IT OR NOT -- I'M TRYING TO GET CLARIFICATION ON WHETHER OR NOT -- YOU KNOW, THE STATUTE IS OVERRULING THE CODE.

>> THE STATUTE DOES OVERRULE THE CODE. AND IT PUTS IT ONTO THE EISA CERTIFIED ARBORIST. BUT, THERE IS ALSO BEST MANAGEMENT PRACTICES ON HOW TO COME UP WITH A MODERATE RISK LEVEL OR GREATER. AND PART OF THE RISK LEVEL RATING IS A TARGET WHICH IS A PERSON OR PROPERTY THAT IS THERE IN THE EQUATION OF THE RISK LEVEL. SO -- IF THAT IS OUT OF THE EQUATION, THAT DROPS IT DOWN TO A LOW RISK. BUT THAT IS --

ARBORIST TALK, KIND OF. >> I GOT YOU. -- AND THE CODE?

>> YEAH. IT WOULD HAVE TO BE MODERATE RISK OR GREATER. THAT GOES OVER ANY CITY TREE ORDINANCE IN THE STATE. AND I SA STANDS FOR INTERNATIONAL ARBORIST -- AND ARBORISTS CAN WRITE THAT, SAYING IT IS A MODERATE RISK OR GREATER.

>> THANK YOU. >> I HAVE A QUESTION.

>> EVERYBODY'S LIGHT IS ON. HERE'S HOW I WANT TO HANDLE THIS REAL QUICK. ESTHER MOSS, WE ARE GOING TO GO. MR. NEVILLE, IF YOU CAN TAKE A BRIEF PAUSE. IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS FOR MR. GIBSON AND MR. NEVILLE, IN THE MEANTIME, WE HAVE TWO EFFECTIVE PARTIES WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK. I WILL CALL IN THE AFFECTED PARTIES. YOU MIGHT GENERATE MORE QUESTIONS. LET'S CALL UP MISS LYNN TO MAKE COMMENTS AT THIS

TIME -- >> SHE IS NOT A PARTY --

>> YOU SWORE YOURSELF IN, CORRECT?

>> WELCOME. >>

>> HOW INTERESTING, THIS FOLLOWS THE ITEM ON THE AGENDA

-- >> START WITH YOUR NAME FOR THE

RECORD. >> LIND-BOHANON, NINE MARSH HAWK ROAD, REPRESENTING AMELIA TREE CONSERVANCY. HOW INTERESTING THAT THIS FOLLOWS THE ITEM WHERE YOU JUST DESIGNATED SOME TREES AS HERITAGE TREES. VERY INTERESTING. A COUPLE OF THINGS. AN ARBORIST WHO DOESN'T LOW -- KNOW THE LOCAL CODES HAS NO BUSINESS WORKING IN THE CITY. THAT SHOULDN'T HAPPEN. AND SAMFORD TREE COMPANY SHOULD BE HELD RESPONSIBLE FOR WHATEVER THEY NEED TO BE HELD ACCOUNTABLE FOR. I THINK, EVERYBODY NEEDS TO BE HELD ACCOUNTABLE IN THIS SITUATION. AND IF WE DON'T STOP CUTTING DOWN THE TREES, WE ARE NOT GOING TO HAVE ANY LEFT.

NOW, THIS IS TREE CITY, USA. WE NEED TO ACT LIKE WE ARE TREE CITY, USA. WE NEED TO PUT THE VALUE THESE TREES DESERVE ON

THE TREES. THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU. THEN WE WILL CALL UP MR. INAUDIBLE ] I WILL BE QUICK BECAUSE I KNOW IT'S LATE AND THIS IS TAKING A LONG TIME. JUST FOR THE RECORD, I WOULD LIKE TO CORRECT THE ARBORIST. IT IS NOT AN INVASIVE TREE. IT IS A NATIVE TREE. IT IS A HOST PLANT TO 5 NATIVE BUTTERFLIES INCLUDING ONE OF WHICH IT IS THE SOLE HOST PLANT FOR, MEANING IF IT DIDN'T EXIST, THAT BUTTERFLY WOULD NOT EXIST.

THAT'S ONE. NUMBER TWO, THE YELLOW BELLIED SAPSUCKER IS A NATIVE WOODPECKER. AND WHEN IT -- WHEN IT PECKS INTO THE BARK OF CERTAIN SPECIES OF TREES, IT DOES NOT DAMAGE THE TREE. IN FACT, IT CREATES TREMENDOUS ADDITIONAL HABITAT FOR DOZENS OF OTHER SPECIES, INCLUDING HUMMINGBIRDS WHICH OFTEN FOLLOW THE SAPSUCKER AROUND. SO, JUST FOR THE RECORD, BECAUSE WE ALL LOVE OUR TREES AND ANIMALS. WITHOUT OUR TREES, WE WON'T HAVE ANIMALS. WITHOUT NEED OF TREES, WE WON'T HAVE ANIMALS. I THINK IT'S INCUMBENT ON THE ARBORIST TO LEARN NATIVE TREES. THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU, MISSED TUTEN. MR. ROSS, WE WILL GO BACK TO YOU. I BELIEVE WE LEFT OFF QUESTIONS WITH MS. GIBSON. IS THAT

CORRECT? >> MR. NEVILLE? I WILL CALL

YOU BACK. >> MR. ROSS, YOU HAVE THE

FLOOR. >> HERE'S WHAT I'M TRYING TO UNDERSTAND. EARLIER IN YOUR TESTIMONY, YOU SAID THIS WAS A LOW RISK TREE. BECAUSE THERE WAS NO -- NO STRUCTURE ON THE

PROPERTY THAT COULD DAMAGE? >> CORRECT.

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>> SO, BUT LATER ON, YOU SAID -- HERE IS WHERE I GOT CONFUSED. THE STATE STATUTE SAYS IT HAS TO BE A MODERATE RISK TREE. THAT'S WHERE THIS WHOLE THING FELL APART. AM I

CORRECT? >> SO, WHERE IT FELL APART WAS THE REMOVAL OF THE TREES THAT WERE GOING TO BE REMOVED ANYWAY FOR THE BUILDING, FOR THE HOUSE TO BE BUILT. -- BEING REMOVED WITH AN ARBORIST ASSESSMENT, WRITTEN WHERE IT WASN'T BY BEST MANAGEMENT PRACTICES. THAT'S WHERE IT FELL APART.

>> LET ME JUST ASK. IF THEY WERE GOING TO KEEP THIS LIVE, KEEP IT THE WAY IT WAS, THEY WOULD HAVE NOT BEEN ISSUED A PERMIT OR A TREE PERMIT EVEN UNDER THE STATE STATUTE,

CORRECT? >> THAT'S CORRECT. BUT THEY WERE GOING TO DEVELOP THE LOT.

>> I UNDERSTAND. >> I THINK A LOT OF THE CONFUSION IS, THEY WERE GOING TO DEVELOP THE LOT. THE TREES WERE GOING TO BE REMOVED. THEY JUST REMOVED THE TREES PRIOR TO THE BUILDING PERMIT BEING ISSUED.

>> THAT IS CLEAR. >> OKAY. I WANTED TO MAKE SURE.

>> THEY WERE UNDER THE IMPRESSION -- THEY WERE UNDER THE IMPRESSION BECAUSE THEIR TESTIMONY WAS THAT THEY WERE TOLD BY STAFF THAT THEY DID NOT NEED A PERMIT TO TAKE THOSE

TREES DOWN. >> IT APPEARS THAT WAY, YES.

>> THAT'S WHERE IT FALLS APART.

>> CORRECT. >> I'M TRYING TO UNDERSTAND

WHERE THAT HAPPENED. >> SO, WHY THAT HAPPENED, THEY WERE TOLD THEY DID NOT NEED THE PERMIT BECAUSE AN ASSESSMENT TAKES THE PLACE OF A PERMIT. THE ASSESSMENT HAS TO BE WRITTEN CORRECTLY. IT WAS NOT WRITTEN CORRECTLY BECAUSE IT WAS NOT MODERATE OR GREATER BY BEST MANAGEMENT PRACTICES.

>> THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU, MR. ROSS. ANY OTHER COMMISSIONER QUESTIONS? I HAVE A FEW IN FRONT OF ME RIGHT NOW. I AM HOLDING THEIR TREE PLAN. I KNOW THIS WAS PROBABLY SUBMITTED WITH YAWLS AGENCY. HAS ANYONE GOTTEN THIS EXCEPT FOR US TONIGHT? PERFECT. OBVIOUSLY, I HAVEN'T SEEN IT.

>> PERFECT. >> WHAT YOU ARE SAYING, MR. ROSS, TO MAKE SURE I'M CLEAR ON THIS, BECAUSE THEY'VE BEEN IN CONTACT WITH THE CITY OVER A YEAR NOW ON THE ISSUE, AS YOU HAVE SEEN IT DEVELOP, YOU WOULD SAY IN YOUR OPINION THAT, HAD THIS COMMUNICATION NOT OCCURRED, IT WOULD HAVE BEEN APPROVED? IT WOULD HAVE BEEN -- HAD DAVE FINISHED THE FINAL STEP, WHICH THEY WERE ON THE ONE YARD LINE HAVING FINISHED THE FINAL STEP, IT WOULD'VE BEEN APPROVED?

>> CORRECT. THEY WERE ON THE ASSUMPTION THEY WERE ON THE FINAL STEP. THEY THOUGHT THEY WERE DOING THE RIGHT THING.

BUT, UNFORTUNATELY, THE CODE WAS WRITTEN WHERE IT WASN'T.

>> OF COURSE. AND THEN, SO WITH THAT APPROVAL, WOULD THERE BE MITIGATION IN ADDITION TO THAT? THAT'S PART OF THE APPROVAL.

>> MITIGATION IS REQUIRED ON HEALTHY TREES ONLY. WITH MR. MARTIN'S ARBORIST ASSESSMENT, MANY OF THOSE TREES WOULD NOT HAVE TO BE MITIGATED BECAUSE THEY WEREN'T DEEMED HEALTHY

ACCORDING TO HIS ASSESSMENT. >> GOT IT. THANK YOU, MR. NEVILLE. I HAVE QUESTIONS FOR MS. GIBSON AS WELL. I CAN CALL YOU TO THE PODIUM. SO, I HAVE HEARD FLOATED AROUND WITH THE BUILDING PERMIT, THIS PLAN -- THE BUILDING PERMIT HAS GONE TO THE HTC WHICH IS IN OLD TOWN AS WELL. AND WITH THAT PLAN, THE PLAN HAS BEEN APPROVED. HAVE THEY EVER PAID THE PERMIT FEE YET FOR THE TREE? IS THERE A FEE FOR THAT? WHAT IS THE FEE?

>> THERE IS NO PERMIT ISSUED FOR TREE REMOVAL FOR THE SLOT.

ONLY A CERTIFICATE OF APPROVAL HAS BEEN DESIGNED FOR THE NEW HOME . AN APPLICATION TO THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT, ONCE THAT IS MADE, WOULD DETERMINE TREE REMOVAL FEES AND HOW THAT

APPLIES. >> I HEARD FROM AN ARBORIST JUST NOW, HAD THEY FINISHED THE FINAL STEP, ON THE ONE YARD LINE, THEY WOULD -- IT WOULD BE AN OPEN AND SHUT CASE HAVING

FINISHED THE FINAL -- >> HAD THEY COME IN, YES, AND EVALUATED WHERE MITIGATION IS REQUIRED AND WHERE FEES ARE

PAID . >> WHAT FEED WE CHARGE FOR THE

PERMIT? >> IT IS $150 PER TREE REMOVED.

CORRECT? >> YES.

>> EXCUSE ME. FOUR TREES. >> IT WOULD BE $600? AND THAT'S WHAT THEY DIDN'T PAY BECAUSE THAT'S WHY WE ARE IN

THE SITUATION TODAY. >> CORRECT.

>> UNDERSTOOD. THOSE ARE THE QUESTIONS THAT I HAVE THERE.

SO, WITH THAT IN MIND, THE COST OF THE PERMIT WOULD'VE BEEN 600 HAD THEY FILED IT. DO I HEAR A MOTION?

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>> THEY STILL NEED TO GET A PERMIT, AM I CORRECT?

>> IT WOULD BE REQUIRED. IT WOULD COME IN THE SAME TIME AS

THE BUILDING PERMIT. >> OH, SO THE BUILDING PERMIT -- EVEN IF THEY GET SLAPPED WITH A $41,000 FINE, THEY HAD TO COME BACK AND PAY THE $600 TREE PERMIT REMOVAL PLAN?

>> TECHNICALLY, YES. >> -- BEFORE THEY GET A BUILDING? GOT IT. THAT CHANGE IS WHAT I WAS ABOUT TO SAY IN A SECOND. THANK YOU, MISS GIBSON AND COMMISSIONER FOR POINTING THAT OUT. THAT'S IT. WE CAN ASK MORE QUESTIONS DURING COMMISSIONER DISCUSSION TIME. FOR US TO GET THERE, AS YOU KNOW, WE NEED A MOTION AND A SECOND ON THE TABLE. WE CAN DISCUSS THAT. DO I HEAR ANY MOTION?

>> I MAKE A MOTION TO WAIVE THE FEES DUE TO THE UNINTENDED MISCOMMUNICATION BETWEEN STAFF .

>> DO YOU MEAN WAIVE THE FEES WERE THE FINES?

>> THE FEES STILL STAND FOR THE CODE. WAIVING THE FINE, I

MISSPOKE. THANK YOU. >> SECOND PERIOD

>> I HEAR A MOTION AND 2ND TO WAIVE ALL FINES. WITH THAT, WE HAVE COMMISSIONER DISCUSSION TIME. DO I SEE ANY COMMISSIONER WISHING TO DISCUSS THE MOTION? COMMISSIONER ANTON?

>> I THINK, WE, IF THIS WERE TO BE APPROVED, DO SO WITH SOME CONTINGENCY THAT THERE WOULD BE EFFORTS TO CLARIFY WHEN OTHER CONSTITUENTS COME TO THE CITY TO MAKE SURE THIS TYPE OF ISSUE IS ABSOLUTELY GUARANTEED NOT TO HAPPEN AGAIN.

>> COMMISSIONER ANTON, I AGREE WITH YOU. WE NEED SOME SORT OF CHECKLIST. AND I THINK ASIDE FROM THIS MOTION -- RIGHT? THAT'S ALL, RIGHT NOW, TAKE A PAUSE AND ADDRESS MR. GEORGE AND SAY, CAN YOU PLEASE LOOK INTO SOME SORT OF CHECKLIST ? THANK YOU, MR. GEORGE. APPRECIATE THAT. COMMISSIONER

ROSS? >> SO, MY PERCEPTION IS A HE SAID SHE SAID STORY, OR HE SAID HE SAID, WHATEVER, STORY. THE PROBLEM IS, I THINK THESE PEOPLE WERE -- I THINK WE HAVE A PROBLEM IN THAT IT IS NOT COMMUNICATED IN ANY CLEAR, EFFECTIVE WAY WHAT THE RULES ARE. AND THERE IS AGREE JUST -- I THINK YOU USED OUTRAGEOUS FINES.

>> I SAID EGREGIOUS. BUT OUTRAGEOUS, I WOULDN'T ARGUE.

BEFORE. TO BE HONEST, THERE WERE PEOPLE IN THE ROOM WHO WANTED HIGHER PENALTIES THAN THAT. THE REASON WAS, AT THE TIME, PEOPLE WERE CUTTING DOWN TREES. THEY WANTED TO MAKE A STATEMENT. I THINK ONE OF THE PROPOSALS WAS TO HAVE A $50,000 FINE PER TIME PER TREE. THAT DIDN'T GET THROUGH. BUT I'M JUST TELLING YOU, THERE WAS A LONG CONVERSATION. I DON'T THINK ANY OF YOU WERE ON THE BOARD AT THE TIME. WERE YOU?

>> NO. >> SO THAT'S WHERE THOSE FINES CAME FROM. THERE WAS A RASH OF TREES GETTING CUT DOWN INAPPROPRIATELY. THERE WERE A BUNCH OF ARBORISTS WHO CAME INTO THE COMMUNITY WHO DIDN'T KNOW THE RULES, WERE NOT FOLLOWING THE RULES, AND IT WAS TO PREVENT THAT ALL FROM HAPPENING. SO, I AM NOT SURE THAT THE FINES ARE OUTRAGEOUS IF THEY ARE APPLIED. BUT, THAT BEING SAID, I THINK WITH CITY STAFF HERE, THEY DID NOT, IN AN APPROPRIATE WAY, INFORMED THE APPLICANTS OF WHAT THEY AND THEIR RESPONSIBILITIES WERE. I THINK THE IF THEY HAD KNOWN THEY HAD TO GET THE PERMITS AND WERE TOLD THAT, I GET THE FEELING, MY BELIEF IS, THEY WOULD'VE DONE THAT. I CAME IN HERE INCLINED TO VOTE , OR AT LEAST MAKE A PASSIONATE ARGUMENT THAT SOME FINE BE APPLIED BECAUSE I THOUGHT -- WELL, I THOUGHT THERE WAS A DIFFERENT SET OF FACTS. SO, I THINK , AND I BELIEVE THEM.

THEY WERE NOT TOLD IN A WAY THEY UNDERSTOOD WHAT THE RULES ARE. SO, I THINK WE NEED TO COME UP WITH A WAY, CITY MANAGER , WE NEED TO COME UP WITH A WAY IT IS CRYSTAL CLEAR TO PEOPLE WHAT THE RESPONSIBILITIES ARE. SO, IN SOME WAY, HAVE IT BE DETERMINED SO PEOPLE UNDERSTAND THAT, MAYBE FOLLOW-UP WITH AN EMAIL. AND WHAT I'VE ALWAYS SAID, AND YOU COME IN TO TALK TO CITY HALL, YOU SHOULD COME IN , SEND AN EMAIL AFTERWARDS AND SAY, THIS IS WHAT WE UNDERSTOOD YOU TO SAY. AND IF YOU HAVE ANY DISAGREEMENT WITH THAT, LET ME KNOW. SO -- AND WITH THAT, I WILL, I THINK -- I DON'T THINK I WILL VOTE NOT TO --

INAUDIBLE ] >> COMMISSIONER ASKEW?

>> MAYOR, I AGREE WITH YOU. IT'S AN EGREGIOUS NUMBER. IT IS UP THERE. AT THE SAME TIME, I -- I CAN SEE WHY IT IS

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THERE. I MEAN, FOR THE PEOPLE WHO COME IN, THEY WILL CLEAR CUT A LOT AND NOT SAY ANYTHING OR CARE, I UNDERSTAND WHY THE FINE IS THERE. IT IS A HIGH NUMBER. BUT I DON'T THINK THIS CASE -- WHICH IS WHY I MADE THE MOTION TO, YOU KNOW, GET RID OF ALL THE FINES HERE -- I DO NOT THINK THAT IS THE CASE HERE. I DON'T THINK THIS ARBORIST OR OUR CITY STAFF HAD ANY INTENTION WHATSOEVER TO REMOVE TREES THAT DIDN'T NEED TO BE REMOVED THROUGH THE NORMAL BUILDING PROCESS ANYWAYS. I WILL SAY, LET THIS NUMBER BE A LESSON TO ANYONE WHO IS OUT THERE. IF YOU GO CUTTING DOWN TREES AND YOU'RE NOT SUPPOSED TO, IT IS HEFTY. IT IS UP THERE. I WANTED TO CLARIFY THAT POINT. IT IS A BIG NUMBER. AND THE ONLY OTHER POINT I WOULD MAKE IS THAT, I'M NOT DISAGREEING WITH THE CODE. I DON'T THINK THE CODE IS WRONG. BUT IT DOES SEEM TO TOUCH A FINE LINE WITH THE STATUTE . SO, I THINK WE WILL CONTINUE TO DEAL WITH THE SITUATION REGARDLESS OF WHAT STAFF ATTEMPTS TO DO. THIS PARTICULAR PIECE OF CODE IS TOUCHING THAT STATUTE IN A VERY, VERY -- YOU KNOW -- CLOSE, CLOSE WAY. AND WE ARE GOING TO END UP IN THIS SITUATION AGAIN. LET'S JUST HOPE THAT FOR THE FUTURE -- FUTURE TREE REMOVAL COMPANIES, ARBORIST, STAFF, NAKED AS CLEAR AS POSSIBLE. LET'S ALL WORK TOGETHER ON THIS ISSUE.

THAT IS IT. >> THANK YOU MR. ASKEW. MR.

ANTON? >> I DON'T BELIEVE THE FEES ARE EGREGIOUS WHEN THE OFFENSE IS BLATANT. BUT AS THESE CONSTITUENTS MENTIONED, THEY ARE TRYING TO FOLLOW THE RULES.

THERE IS NOTHING HERE THAT SMELLS TO ME IT IS FOUL PLAY. I BELIEVE AS A SUGGESTION TO STAFF, PART OF THE PROCESS COULD INCLUDE VETTING ARBORISTS MAKING SURE THEY ARE AWARE OF THE SEPARATE CODE. THAT COULD BE AS EASY AS A CHECKBOX. IF YOU DIDN'T WRITE IT, IT DIDN'T HAPPEN. I DON'T THINK THAT SHOULD ACQUIRE THE CONSTITUENT TO SEND A FOLLOW-UP EMAIL. OUR STAFF, EVEN FOR THEIR OWN PROTECTION, SHOULD HAVE DOCUMENTATION OF THIS. IF WE CAN GO BACK TO A SERIES OF EMAIL EXCHANGES OR WRITTEN CONVERSATION, WE WOULDN'T HAVE THE HE SAID SHE SAID WITH MISS GIBSON AND MR. NEVILLE VERSUS OUR CONSTITUENTS. WE CAN GO RIGHT TO THE CONTINGENCY. THAT

WOULD BE VERY HELPFUL. >> ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. WE HAVE A MOTION SECONDED ON THE FLOOR. I WILL CLOSE WITH THIS.

MY DECISION TONIGHT IS BASED ON THE GOOD FAITH OF THE INAUDIBLE ] HERE. THE NUMBER THAT GOT ME WAS 15 MONTHS.

THEY STARTED IN JANUARY OF 2023. THE WHOLE WAY, THEY HAVE BEEN ACTIVE TALKING TO ARBORISTS. THEY INITIATED ALL OF THIS. I THINK THEY ACTED IN GOOD FAITH. I AM FINE WAIVING THESE FINES BECAUSE THEY ARE GOING TO COME BACK AND PAY THE FEES RIGHT AWAY. AND LOOK GREAT. I AM EXCITED. WITH THAT, LET'S GO AHEAD --

>> MR. ROSS? >> JUST FOR CLARIFICATION?

>> WAIVE ALL FINES ASSOCIATED WITH THIS OFFENSE.

>> BUT NOT FEES? >> FEES WILL BE PAID. NOT THE FINES. THE $41,000 IN FINES WILL BE WAIVED IN THIS. WITH THAT, LET'S CALL THE ROLE. MISSES BEST?

>>

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>> COMMISSIONER ANTON? >> MAYOR?

>> YES. THAT PASSES 5-0. ALL RIGHT, WITH THAT, WE ARE HEADING DOWN TO ITEM 6.6, AGREEMENT APPROVAL FOR BIG BROTHERS BIG SISTERS OF NORTHEAST FLORIDA.

>> THIS IS 2024-70. THIS IS RECOMMENDING THE APPROVAL WITH BIG BROTHERS BIG SISTERS OF NORTHEAST FLORIDA ESTABLISHING A YOUTH MENTORING PROGRAM WITH FIRE DEPARTMENT AND POLICE

PERSONNEL. >> ANY QUESTIONS? MR. GEORGE?

>> I SEE NONE, DO I HEAR A MOTION?

>> MOVED TO APPROVE. >> I HEAR A MOTION AND A SECOND. ANY DISCUSSION ON THIS? I WILL SAY THIS IS A GREAT PROGRAM. I CAN SPEAK PERSONALLY. I THINK BEYOND SCHOOL WALLS IS THE PROGRAM. THEY DO THIS AT NO WHERE I WORK. THE KIDS ARE REALLY EXCITED. THEY GET TO COME TO THE JOB. THEY SEE IT. THEY BENEFIT FIRST-HAND FROM A MENTORSHIP EXPERIENCE. SO, I CAN PERSONALLY ATTEST IT MEANS A LOT TO THE KIDS. HONESTLY, THANK YOU TO OUR POLICE AND FIRE DEPARTMENTS FOR TAKING THESE ON. IT WILL BE A LOT.

WITH THAT, LET'S CALL THE ROLE.

>> COMMISSIONER ASKEW?

[6.8 INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT - NASSAU COUNTY BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS - RESOLUTION 2024-72 ADOPTING THE MULTI-JURISDICTIONAL PROGRAM FOR PUBLIC INFORMATION (PPI) PLAN IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE NASSAU COUNTY BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS; APPROVING AN INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT WITH THE NASSAU COUNTY BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS FOR THEIR PARTICIPATION IN THE COMMUNITY RATING SYSTEM (CRS) PROGRAM; AUTHORIZING EXECUTION; AND PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE. Synopsis: The City and County work jointly on the CRS Program for Public Information (PPI). Nassau County and the City of Fernandina Beach desire to enter into the associated Interlocal Agreement to provide for a financial aid contribution from the County to the City for PPI contracted vendor expenses and associated outreach materials.]

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>> MAYOR? >> AND YES. THAT PASSES 5-0.

6.7 WAS WITHDRAWN. ITEM 6.7, HABITAT FOR HUMANITY ASKED WE PUSH THAT TO A LATER DATE. WE WILL NOT BE HEARING THAT ONE TONIGHT. ITEM 6.8, INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT, NASSAU COUNTY BOARD

OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS. >> THIS IS AN INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT WITH NASSAU COUNTY REQUIRING THE PROGRAM FOR PUBLIC INFORMATION WHICH DEALS WITH THE COMMUNITY RATING SYSTEM, THE CRS SYSTEM, MR. WALSH WAS HERE. HE IS THE CITY'S CONSULTANT. THE COUNTY HAS AGREED TO WORK WITH THE CITY TO PAY A PORTION OF HIS COSTS WITH REGARD TO THE INFORMATIONAL PROGRAM. AND SO, THIS IS GREAT STUFF. PLUS, WE WILL GET REIMBURSED FOR THE PREVIOUS THREE YEARS THAT WE PAID HIM TO BE INVOLVED WITH THE COUNTY. IT IS GREAT NEWS.

>> THAT IS GREAT. >> ANY QUESTIONS? VICE MAYOR?

>> I WAS NOT GOING TO ASK ANYTHING. I WAS GOING TO MAKE A COMMENT. BUT SINCE I'M ALREADY SPEAKING, I THINK THIS IS ANOTHER OPPORTUNITY FOR ME TO SAY, I WANT TO THANK NASSAU COUNTY, BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS, FOR SUPPORTING THE CITY. YOU KNOW, THE FLOOD PORTION IS AN IMPORTANT PART OF OUR CITY , BEING PREPARED FOR ANY SORT OF FLOOD AND SEA LEVEL RISE. I'M GLAD TO SEE THE COUNTY IS WILLING TO HELP US WITH THIS AGREEMENT, AND WORK TOWARDS EVERY PREPAREDNESS WE CAN HAVE FOR THAT EVENT WHENEVER IT COULD HAPPEN. SO, THANK YOU FOR NASSAU COUNTY, THANK YOU FOR STAFF AND FOLLOWING UP AND WORKING WITH THIS. THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU, VICE MAYOR. DO I HEAR A MOTION?

>> MOVED TO APPROVE. >> SECOND PERIOD

>> ANY DISCUSSION? I WILL GO AHEAD AND ECHO THE VICE MAYOR.

I THINK THIS PARTICULAR COMMISSION, SOMETHING WE HAVE BEEN VERY GOOD AT, WE HAVE DONE VERY WELL INTERACTING WITH THE COUNTY. I WANT TO THANK THE FIVE COUNTY COMMISSIONERS BECAUSE WE HAVE REALLY COME TOGETHER IN A WAY I DON'T THINK THE CITY AND COUNTY HAVE SEEN IN A LONG TIME. I APPRECIATE THE COUNTY AGAIN FOR THE WORK THEY ARE DOING TO HELP

US OUT HERE. >> YOUR LIGHT IS ON AS WELL DO YOU -- OKAY. WITH THAT IN MIND, LET'S CALL THE ROLE.

[6.9 BUDGET TRANSFERS - AMERICAN RESCUE PLAN ACT FUNDS REALLOCATION - RESOLUTION 2024-73 APPROVING BUDGET TRANSFERS IN FISCAL YEAR 2023-2024; AND PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE. Synopsis: Approves reallocations to the Fiscal Year 2023- 2024 Budget to fund the Area 5 Drainage Improvement Project #18002 (Alachua Street) in the amount of $818,552 and the Area 6 Drainage Improvement Project #22013 (Ash Street) in the amount of $272,172.]

>> YES. >> YES.

>> YES. >> AND YES. THAT PASSES 5-0.

INAUDIBLE ] FUNDS, REALLOCATION, MR. GEORGE?

>> 2024-73, IF YOU RECALL, SEVERAL MEETINGS AGO, WE DISCUSSED REALLOCATING SOME OF OUR OUR POLL FUNDS TO MOVE THOSE FUNDS TO BRING A PROJECT DOWNTOWN, AREA SIX AND AREA FIVE. THIS IS RECOMMENDING APPROVAL OF THE REALLOCATION FOR ABOUT 818,000 FOR AREA FIVE AND 272,000 FOR AREA 6 TO HELP THOSE PRODUCTS MOVE FORWARD.

>> ALL RIGHT. ANY QUESTIONS FOR MR. GEORGE? SEEING NONE, DO I

HEAR A MOTION? >> MOVED TO APPROVE.

>> SECOND PERIOD >> ANY COMMENTS? SEE NONE,

PLEASE CALL THE ROLE. >>

[6.10 WORK ORDER APPROVAL - PASSERO ASSOCIATES LLC - RESOLUTION 2024-74 APPROVING PASSERO ASSOCIATES LLC WORK ORDER 24-106R FOR THE CONSTRUCTION ADMINISTRATION, PERIODIC CONSTRUCTION MONITORING AND OBSERVATION, QA MATERIAL TESTING, AND GRANT ADMINISTRATION SERVICES FOR THE MUNICIPAL AIRPORT BULK HANGAR B APRON REHABILITATION; AUTHORIZING EXECUTION; AND PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE. Synopsis: Approves Passero Associates LLC WO 24-106R in the amount of $47,500 for Bulk Hangar B Apron Rehabilitation.]

>> THAT PASSES, 5-0. >> 2024-74, THIS IS FOR A PROJECT TO REHABILITATE THE APRON OF HANGAR BE OUT OF THE AIRPORT. AWARDING A WORK ORDER TO WHO HAS WORKED WITH THE AIRPORT FOR MANY YEARS ON HANDLING THE CONSTRUCTION ADMINISTRATION, CONSTRUCTION MONITORING OBSERVATION AND GRANT ADMINISTRATIVE SERVICES FOR THE PROJECT FOR A TOTAL OF $47,500.

>> ANY QUESTIONS FOR MR. GEORGE ABOUT THIS? ALL RIGHT. SEEING

[6.11 GRANT APPLICATIONS - FLORIDA DEPARTMENT OF STATE DIVISION OF HISTORICAL RESOURCES AND FLORIDA LIGHTHOUSE ASSOCIATION - RESOLUTION 2024-75 AUTHORIZING THE SUBMITTAL OF A FLORIDA DEPARTMENT OF STATE DIVISION OF HISTORICAL RESOURCES, SPECIAL CATEGORY GRANT APPLICATION FOR $500,000; AUTHORIZING THE SUBMITTAL OF A FLORIDA LIGHTHOUSE ASSOCIATION GRANT APPLICATION FOR $125,000 CITY MATCH TOWARD THE COST OF REPAIRING THE AMELIA ISLAND LIGHTHOUSE, A BUILDING ON THE NATIONAL REGISTER OF HISTORIC PLACES; AUTHORIZING EXECUTION; AND PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE. Synopsis: Authorizes the submittal of a Historic Preservation Special Category Grant application in the amount of $500,000 and the submittal of a Florida Lighthouse Association Grant application in the amount of $125,000, to help fund necessary repairs to the Amelia Island Lighthouse, a historically- significant building.]

NONE, DO I HEAR A MOTION? >> MOVED TO APPROVE.

>> ANY COMMISSION OR DISCUSSION? SEEING NONE, LET'S

CALL THAT ROLE. >> COMMISSIONER ANTON?

>> YES. >> COMMISSIONER ASK YOU?

>> YES. >> MAYOR?

>> AND YES. THAT PASSES 5-0. 6.11, GRANT APPLICATIONS FOR THE ORDER DEPARTMENT OF STATE DIVISION OF HISTORICAL RESOURCES AND FLORIDA LIGHTHOUSE ASSOCIATION.

>> IF YOU RECALL BACK IN JANUARY, WHEN YOU TRAVEL TO TALLAHASSEE TO MEET REPRESENTATIVES, WE DISCUSSED TRYING TO GET FUNDING FOR LIGHTHOUSE REPAIRS, THE HISTORIC LIGHTHOUSE. SO, WE ARE SUBMITTING -- WE ARE REQUESTING AUTHORIZATION TO SUBMIT A GRANT APPLICATION FOR $500,000 FOR THIS LIGHTHOUSE REPAIR. AND ALSO, A GRANT APPLICATION FOR $125,000 FOR THE NATIONAL REGISTER OF HISTORIC PLACES TO HELP MAKE THIS REPAIR TO THE LIGHTHOUSE COME TO FRUITION.

125,000 WOULD BE PART OF OUR MATCHING GRANT WITH THE 500.

WE ALSO HAVE -- IF WE DON'T GET THE 125 WE HAVE BUDGETED

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125 IN THE BUDGET. >> THAT IS GREAT NEWS. ANY QUESTIONS, MR. GEORGE? VICE MAYOR?

>> THANK YOU, MAYOR. CHARLIE, SO, REALLY, THE WHOLE AMOUNT.

-- WE NEED 900,000 TO TOTALLY RESTORE THE LIGHTHOUSE?

>> TO DO ALL THE RESTORATION, YES.

>> EVERYTHING? SO THIS WILL GET US, IF WE GOT ALL THE FUNDS APPROVED, OVER THREE QUARTERS OF THE WAY?

>> YES. >> SO WE WOULDN'T BE FAR AWAY IF THE CITY DECIDED TO MATCH IT OR COME UP WITH THE FUNDS ON

HER OWN. >> THAT'S CORRECT.

>> OKAY, GREAT. I THINK THIS IS A GOLDEN OPPORTUNITY. IT IS NEAR AND DEAR TO MY HEART. WE NEED TO KEEP ESPECIALLY OUR HISTORIC BUILDINGS AND LIGHTHOUSE UP-TO-DATE AND RESTORED, AND FUNCTIONING PROPERLY. I'M GLAD THE CITY IS TAKING THIS ON. I KNOW WE OWN IT. I'M GLAD WE ARE TAKING IT ON ITS OWN S AND FOLLOWING THROUGH, ESPECIALLY WITH THE HISTORIC PORTION OF IT.

>> THANK YOU, VICE MAYOR. >> ANY QUESTIONS, MR. GEORGE? THE COAST GUARD WAS WORKING ON THE LIGHT?

>> THEY ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR THE ACTUAL LIGHT.

>> IS THAT BACK ONLINE NOW? >> THEY ARE WORKING ON IT.

IT'S GOT SOME WAYS TO GO. THE MAIN THING THIS IS COVERING HIS

INSTRUCTION. >> PERFECT. SO THE REASON THE LIGHT IS OFF, WAS NOT --

>> CHARLIE SAID THE MAIN THING. THIS IS THE WHOLE THING.

IT HAS TO DO WITH THE BILL. >> THAT'S RIGHT.

>> RIGHT. WE GOT THE BUILDING. THEY GOT THE LIGHT. ALL RIGHT.

VERY MUCH -- SECOND PERIOD >> SECOND, ANY COMMISSION OR DISCUSSION? STATE OF FLORIDA -- OH, GO AHEAD.

>> Y DID WE ONLY ASKED FOR 125,000?

>> THAT WAS THE MATCH WE COULD GET A GRANT FOR.

>> OKAY. THANK YOU. >> ALL RIGHT, WITH THAT BEING

[6.12 SETTLEMENT AGREEMENT - MCLAUGHLIN - RESOLUTION 2024-76 APPROVING AN AGREEMENT OF SETTLEMENT WITH DAVID AND KRISTINA MCLAUGHLIN IN A PETITION FOR RELIEF MATTER PURSUANT TO CHAPTER 70.51, FLORIDA STATUTES; AUTHORIZING EXECUTION; AND PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE. Synopsis: Approves the settlement agreement relating to building height calculations for property located at 2200 South Fletcher Avenue.]

SAID, LET'S CALL THE ROLE. IS BEST?

>> THAT PASSES. >> THIS IS FOR DEVELOPMENT PERMITS. WHEN SOMEBODY REQUESTS A DEVELOPMENT PERMIT WHICH CAN BE FROM THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT FOR APPROVALS UNDER LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE, BUILDING DEPARTMENT FOR THE BUILDING PERMIT, IN THIS CASE -- AND MCLACHLAN'S ARE THE OWNERS OF THE PROPERTY, AND THE ONES THAT ARE BRINGING THIS FORWARD . FIRST, A NOTICE IS GIVEN TO THE CITY AFTER A DENIAL. THIS IS WHEN I STARTED SAYING THE WRONG ITEM EARLIER. AT 2200 SOUTH FLETCHER, THE DEVELOPMENT PERMIT, THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT SHOWING THE PLANS OF THE HOUSE ON THE LOT, A NEW HOUSE, AND ACED UPON THE ELEVATION EXCEEDING THE 35 FOOT HEIGHT LIMIT BECAUSE THE MEASUREMENT UNDER OUR CODE NOW, THIS JUST LAST FEW YEARS IS SUPPOSED TO BE THE AVERAGE NATIONAL, THAT'S WITHOUT FILLING ANY OTHER GRADING. SO THE DEVELOPMENT PERMIT TO BUILD THE HOME WAS DENIED BY PLANNING WHICH THEN TRIGGERS PROPERTY OWNERS ABILITY TO FILE UNDER THE ENVIRONMENTAL DISPUTE RESOLUTION ACT. IS JUST FOR THE RECORD, 70.51 OF THE FLORIDA STATUTES. THAT PROVIDES A PROCESS WHERE THE PROPERTY OWNER CAN SAY, I DON'T AGREE. I WISH TO APPEAL. BECAUSE THIS IS A BURDEN ON ME. I WISH TO APPEAL THIS DENIAL AND DEVELOPMENT PERMIT.

AT THAT POINT, THE CITY BRINGS IN A SPECIAL MAGISTRATE, WHICH WE DID, LAST MONTH. THE SPECIAL MAGISTRATE HEARS BOTH OF THE PARTIES. ONE BEING THE CITY ABOUT THE CITY'S CODE, THE OTHER BEING THE PROPERTY OWNER ABOUT WHAT DIFFICULTIES THEY ARE HAVING FOLLOWING THE CODE. AND SO, IN THIS MEETING WE HAD LAST MONTH, CITY STAFF'S STAMPS, INCLUDING MINE, I REPRESENTED CITY STAFF, WAS WE DIDN'T HAVE ANY OBJECTION TO WHAT THE PROPERTY OWNER WAS PROPOSING IN THE MEETING. THE PROPERTY OWNER'S COUNSEL WILL COME UP AND LET YOU KNOW WHAT THEY ARE PROPOSING. THE SPECIAL MAGISTRATE THEN HAS TO MAKE A RECOMMENDATION TO THE CITY COMMISSION WHICH HE HAS DONE. HE RECOMMENDED ACCEPTING THE SETTLEMENT, THE TERMS OF THIS AGREEMENT, AND ALLOWING THE PROPERTY OWNER TO BUILD THE HOUSE WITH SOME RESTRICTIONS. SO, THAT IS WHAT IS BEFORE YOU.

I REPRESENTED CITY STAFF'S POSITION AS WE HAVE NO OBJECTION IF YOU APPROVE THAT. THE CITY COMMISSION HAS THE AUTHORITY UNDER THE STATUTE TO APPROVE, APPROVED WITH MODIFICATIONS, OR DENY THE SETTLEMENT AGREEMENT.

>> ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. ANY QUESTIONS? VICE MAYOR?

>> THANK YOU, MAYOR. EVERYTHING SOUNDED NORMAL UNTIL YOU GOT TO THE POINT WHERE YOU SAID, SAVE -- SAY THE LAST

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THREE SENTENCES YOU SAID? >> I DON'T EVEN REMEMBER. I MIGHT GO ON TO THE NEXT THING. THAT THE --

>> I THINK IT WAS THREE CHOICES.

>> THE CITY COMMISSION CAN APPROVE, APPROVE WITH

MODIFICATIONS -- >> STOP. THAT RIGHT THERE.

MODIFICATIONS, WHAT DOES THAT DEFINITION MEAN?

>> THERE IS NO DEFINITION. THIS IS THE PROCESS THE STATUTES ARE GIVING TO PROPERTY OWNERS AND LOCAL GOVERNMENTS SO WE CAN WORK THIS OUT. IT CAN BE ANYTHING THAT YOU ALL THINK YOU

WANT -- >> SO, IT IS REALLY A WIDE

SWATCH? >> WIDE, WIDE, WIDE. YES.

>> THANK YOU. >> ALL RIGHT. WITH NO FURTHER QUESTIONS -- OH, I DO HAVE A CITIZEN REQUEST FOR COMMENT.

INAUDIBLE ] THEY DO. THAT'S WHY I'M GOING TO ASK OUR CITIZEN TO COMMENT. I THINK THIS GUY REPRESENTS -- MR.

JAMES PRESENT UP. >> OH, OKAY.

>> I JUST WANTED TO -- >> I THINK HE DOES THE SETTLEMENT AGREEMENT. MR. -- SAY YOUR NAME.

>> JAMES PRESENT, ARGUED -- ARCHITECT. I AM THE ARCHITECT ON THE PROJECT. MAYBE I WILL JUST LAY OUT THE ISSUES WE HAVE BEEN FACING JUST SO YOU CAN UNDERSTAND WHERE WE STARTED, HOW WE GUARD -- GOT TO WHERE THE MEDIATION PUT US. LOT 2200 SOUTH FLETCHER RECEIVES A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF STORM WATER FROM THE ADJACENT PROPERTIES. THIS WATER THOSE PROPERTIES SHED INTO THE STREET -- IT TURNS RIGHT AROUND AND COMES BACK ONTO THEIR PROPERTY. THAT IS HAPPENING BECAUSE THEIR PROPERTY IS SIGNIFICANTLY LOWER THAN ANY OF THE NEIGHBORS, NORTH, SOUTH AND WEST TO THEM. SO, TO MANAGE THE STORM WATER, WE HAVE MET WITH THE CITY PLANNING DEPARTMENT, STORMWATER MANAGEMENT, AND ALSO A LOCAL ENGINEER TO TALK ABOUT A DRAINAGE PLAN. DURING MEDIATION , PARTIES AGREED UPON A DRAINAGE MANAGEMENT PLAN THAT WILL KEEP THE GROUND FLOOR OF THE NEW HOUSE DRY. OUR GOAL WAS TO GET IT JUST HIGH ENOUGH OUT OF THE GROUND SO WHEN THE STORM WATER COMES, IT IS NOT FLOODING THE NEW HOUSE. SO, WE WANT OUR GROUND-FLOOR TO BE DRY. WE ALSO WANT TO MINIMIZE -- PART OF THE AGREEMENT WAS TO MINIMIZE AND CAP THE AMOUNT OF PHIL WE WOULD BRING ONTO THE LOT . SO, THE GOAL HERE IS TO BRING IN ONLY ENOUGH PHIL TO MANAGE THE STORM WATER, NOT TO EXCEED ANY OF THE NEIGHBORS EXISTING LEVELS. WE ARE NOT GOING HIGHER THAN ANY OF THE NEIGHBORS. THE AMOUNT OF PHIL WILL BE LESS THAN 2 FEET. AND THE FINISHED GRADE LEVEL WILL BE LESS THAN THE HEIGHT OF THE GREAT LEVEL FROM THE NEIGHBOR TO THE SOUTH. THE OVERALL HEIGHT OF THE NEW HOUSE WILL NOT EXCEED 35 FEET . AS A DESIGN, THE CURRENT HOUSE IS 32 FEET HIGH, WHICH IS SEVERAL FEET LOWER THAN THE HOUSE TO THE SOUTH. THE DISTINCTION HERE IS THE CITY CODE CALLS FOR THE POINT OF MEASURE TO BE MEASURED FROM NATURAL GRADE.

WHICH, RIGHT NOW, IS LOW AND ALLOWING STORM WATER TO FLOW IN. WE ARE LOOKING TO BE ALLOWED TO MEASURE FROM THE POINT OF WHERE THE NEW FILTER COMES IN , AND USE THAT AS OUR NATURAL GRADE. THAT IS KIND OF THE DISTINCTION AT PLAY HERE.

WE HAVE MET WITH, AND WILL ENGAGE AN ENGINEER TO DESIGN A STORMWATER MANAGEMENT PLAN FOR THIS LOT. THE END RESULT OF DESIGN WILL RETAIN ALL THE STORM WATER GENERATED ON LOT

2200 ON SITE. >> THANK YOU. WE HAVE A

QUESTION FROM MR. ROSS. >> SO, FULL DISCLOSURE, YOU AND I HAVE HAD A NUMBER OF CONVERSATIONS. SO THAT'S ON RECORD. AND I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE IT IS CRYSTAL CLEAR THAT THERE WILL BE NO MORE THAN 2 FEET PUT UNDER THIS LOT.

CORRECT? >> CORRECT.

>> IT WILL STILL BE UNDER THE 35 FOOT LIMIT .

>> CORRECT. >> IT WILL BE LOWER THAN THE SURROUNDING HOUSES THAT WERE BUILT FREE ALL OF THIS WHICH ARE MUCH HIGHER BECAUSE OF WHATEVER.

>> THAT'S RIGHT. >> THAT'S CORRECT.

>> THANK YOU. >> YOU KNOW, I HAD -- I HAD ONE OF THOSE THREE QUESTIONS. HE HAS A READY ANSWERED. THANK

YOU. VICE MAYOR? >> THANK YOU, MAYOR. JAMES, IS THIS THE HOUSE THAT IS JUST TO THE LEFT? IT IS LIKE AQUA BLUE OR WAS AN AQUA BLUE HOUSE AT ONE TIME?

>> THERE IS AN EXISTING HOUSE ON THE LOT WHICH WILL BE

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BROUGHT DOWN, AND A NEW HOUSE --

>> THIS IS JUST TO THE LEFT OF THE BIG HOUSES THAT CALL ALL THE RUCKUS ABOUT THE LEVEL OF THE ROOF AND THE --

] >> CORRECT?

>> I DON'T KNOW. >> I KNOW WHERE IT IS. ALL RIGHT. THAT'S ALL. I WANTED TO MAKE SURE THIS WAS EXACTLY THAT LOCATION BECAUSE MY COMPUTER DIDN'T WORK WHEN I WAS LOOKING IT UP. THANK YOU, SIR.

>> YOU ARE WELCOME. >> THE PEANUT GALLERY IN THE BACK IS SHAKING HER HEAD. YOU MIGHT HAVE THE WRONG ONE.

>> IT'S NOT THOSE THREE PARTICULAR HOUSES. IT IS SOUTH.

FOR THE RECORD. IT IS SOUTH OF THAT. THE PEOPLE AT HOME WATCHING, I AM NOT GIVING THE EMAIL PEOPLE ARE MISSING THIS DISCUSSION. THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

>> PRECEDENT. IT IS THE TEAL HOUSE. THE APPLICANT SAID WHICH ONE IT WAS. THANK YOU FOR BEING WITH US TONIGHT, SIR. SO, THAT WAS THE APPLICANT. I HAVE NO REQUESTS TO SPEAK ON THIS.

DO I HAVE A MOTION? I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.

COMMISSIONER DISCUSSION? I THINK THIS IS A GREAT SETTLEMENT DEAL. I'M GLAD STAFF WORKED THIS OUT WITHOUT GOING TO COURT. IT SOUNDS GREAT TO ME. LET'S GET THIS GOING.

VICE MAYOR? >> SAME FOR ME, I APPRECIATE THIS. IT IS A GOOD SETTLEMENT TO KEEP IT BELOW WHAT INAUDIBLE ] ARE. IT STILL GIVES THE HOMEOWNER WHAT THEY NEED WITH THE LEAST AMOUNT OF PHIL. IT IS THE CORRECT THING IN THIS ENVIRONMENT. I WILL VOTE TO APPROVE IT. THANK YOU.

[7.1 HISTORIC DISTRICT COUNCIL - One appointment (Veronica Byrnes).]

>> SOUND LIKE A WIN-WIN. WITH THAT, LET'S CALL THE ROLE.

>> COMMISSIONER ANTON? >> YES.

>> COMMISSIONER ASK YOU? >> MAYOR?

>> YES. THAT PASSES 5-0. ALL RIGHT. THEN BOARD APPOINTMENTS, WE HAVE THREE TONIGHT. 7.1 FOR THE HISTORIC DISTRICT COUNSEL, WE HAVE ONE OPENING. DO I HEAR A MOTION?

>> MOVED TO APPROVE MS. VERONICA BURNS.

>> SECOND? I HEAR A MOTION" -- AND A SECOND ON VERONICA BURNS.

ANY DISCUSSION ON THIS? >> I TRY TO WITH MOST CANDIDATES, I CALLED HER UP . SHE IS IMMINENTLY QUALIFIED AND EXCITED TO BE ON THE BOARD. WELCOME ABOARD.

>> THANK YOU. >> AND I KNOW THAT CHAIR MIKE SAVINO IS IN FAVOR OF THIS.

[7.2 MARINA ADVISORY BOARD - One appointment (Wayne Guest).]

AHEAD AND CALL THE ROLE. >> COMMISSIONER ANTON? VICE MAYOR? COMMISSIONER ROSS? COMMISSIONER ASKEW?

>> MAYOR? >> YES. THAT PASSES 5-0.

MARINA ADVISORY BOARD. FOR THIS, WE WILL CALL MR. GEORGE.

BE ON THE MARINA ADVISORY BOARD. HE IS A LONGTIME CITY RESIDENT WHO, UNTIL RECENTLY, HAS BEEN INVOLVED IN SEVERAL PROBLEMATIC INCLUDING CONFRONTATIONS WITH OTHER TENANTS AND STAFF. SOME OF THESE INCIDENTS NECESSITATED LAW ENFORCEMENT INTERVENTION ON SEVERAL OCCASIONS WHICH RESULTED IN HIS EVICTION FROM THE PROPERTY IN 2024. ON APRIL 6TH, POLICE DEPARTMENT ISSUED HIM A TRESPASS WARNING ATLANTIC SEAFOOD WHICH IS ADJACENT TO THE PROPERTY. DUE TO THESE CIRCUMSTANCES, WE DO NOT RECOMMEND HE BE APPOINTED TO THE MARINA ADVISORY BOARD AT THIS TIME.

>> THANK YOU, MR. GEORGE. SO, WITH THAT, THERE IS CURRENTLY NO MOTION ON THE TABLE. DO I HEAR ONE? I DON'T. LET'S MOVE

ON TO 7.3. >> JUST A POINT OF

CLARIFICATION. >> NO. IT COULD BE THAT THE APPLICATION IS KIND OF JUST SITTING THERE IF YOU TAKE NO ACTION. IT COULD COME UP AGAIN. I HAVE A FEELING WE MIGHT --

>> OKAY. THE FLOOR IS STILL OPEN. DOES ANYONE WISH TO MAKE

A MOTION? >> I WILL MAKE A MOTION TO FOLLOW CITY STAFF RECOMMENDATION.

>> SECOND PERIOD >> OKAY. A MOTION AND A SECOND.

WHICH MEANS WE NOW NEED TO VOTE ON IT. SO, WITH THAT IN MIND, DOES ANYONE WISH TO DISCUSS THIS?

>> I AM FOLLOWING CITY STAFF RECOMMENDATION.

>> OKAY. SO, THIS IS A NEGATIVE. JUST KEEP IN MIND.

DON'T BE CONFUSED BY THIS BOAT. YES IS CITY STAFF ACCOMMODATION OF NOT APPOINTING. SO YES MEANS NO IN THIS CASE. JUST SO EVERYBODY KNOWS.

>> YES MEANS NO. >> ALL RIGHT. SO WITH THAT IN MIND, I SEE NO OTHER QUESTIONS. LET'S CALL THE ROLE.

>> COMMISSIONER ROSS? COMMISSIONER ANTON?

[7.3 PLANNING ADVISORY BOARD - One appointment (Daphne Forehand).]

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COMMISSIONER ASKEW? VICE MAYOR? MAYOR?

>> YES. ITEM 7.3, PLANNING ADVISORY BOARD. WE HAVE ONE

OPENING. >> I MOVED TO APPROVE DAPHNE FOREHAND. I CALLED HER AS I DO WITH OTHER APPLICANTS. I KNOW FROM EXPERIENCE THAT SHE WILL MAKE AN EXCELLENT ADDITION TO THE BOARD. I MOVED TO APPROVE.

>> SECOND PERIOD >> A MOTION IN A SECOND ON THE TABLE, ANY DISCUSSION? SEEING NONE, LET'S GO AHEAD AND CALL

THE ROLE. >> COMMISSIONER ROSS,

[8. PUBLIC COMMENT REGARDING ITEMS NOT ON THE AGENDA OR ITEMS ON THE CONSENT AGENDA]

COMMISSIONER ANTON, COMMISSIONER ASKEW, VICE MAYOR,

MAYOR? >> AND YES. THAT PASSES, 5-0.

ALL RIGHT. ITEMS NOT ON THE AGENDA, LET'S CALL IT MR. JACK

EMBER. >> IS IT COLD IN HERE?

>> IT IS COLD. >> JACK EMBER, 1003 BURNS STREET. I WANT TO START WITH A QUOTATION. FROM MAJOR PAUL LANE INJURIES. THE PROBLEM WITH RISKS THAT A REMOTE YET POTENTIALLY CATASTROPHIC -- IS THEY DO SOMETIMES MATERIALIZE.

AT WHICH POINT, OTHERWISE VERY REASONABLE DECISIONS START TO LOOK VERY UNREASONABLE , OR EVEN CRIMINAL. IN REGARDS TO THIS ETHANOL BUSINESS THAT, FOR SOME REASON, WE PUT ALL OUR DECIDING ABILITY INTO A OUTSIDE ATTORNEY , MY FIRST OBSERVATION IS , AT THE VERY WORST, THIS IS AN ACT OF COWARDICE. AT THE VERY BEST, IT'S LIKE A DERELICTION OF DUTY. WHEN PEOPLE ARE TELLING ME ALL OVER TOWN IS -- WHERE IS OUR LEADERS? WHERE IS OUR CITY COMMISSION WITH REGARD TO THE SAFETY , THE WELFARE, AND THE WELL-BEING OF THE CITIZENS

OF FERNANDINA BEACH? >> THANK YOU, MR. EMBER.

>> I WOULD LIKE TO SAY SOMETHING.

>> MR. ROSS? >> WITHOUT GETTING INTO THE MERITS OF THE ETHANOL PLANT ITSELF AND TALK ABOUT THE PROCESS, THE PROCESS IS, AN OUTSIDE OPINION HAS BEEN ASKED BY OUR CURRENT ATTORNEY, WHICH I THINK IS ACTUALLY APPROPRIATE. IT IS STILL JUST AN OPINION. AND THE PERSON WHO WILL MAKE THE DECISION AS TO WHETHER THIS -- THE PROCESS, THE CITY MANAGER WILL BE THE ONE WHO EVENTUALLY MAKES THE PROCESS. HE CAN TAKE INTO ACCOUNT THIS AND ANYTHING ELSE -- THAT IS THE PROCESS MOVING FORWARD AT SOME POINT. THE CITY MANAGER WILL HAVE TO MAKE THE DECISION. THERE IS TWO ISSUES.

ONE IS THE BUILDING PERMIT. THE SECOND IS IN THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. IT WILL BE ON THE SECOND ONE FOR THE BUILDING OFFICIAL WHO MAKES THE DECISION ON THE BUILDING PART OF IT. THE CITY MANAGER WILL HAVE THE DECISION ON THAT. THAT IS STILL IN THE FUTURE. SO, I THINK THAT I HEAR WHAT YOU ARE SAYING. THAT IS THE PROCESS THAT WILL PLAY OUT. I JUST WANT TO MAKE THAT

CLEAR. >> THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER. ALL RIGHT. LET'S INVITE INAUDIBLE ]. WELCOME, MS. CHRIS MULLER.

>> 406 BEECH STREET. THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING ME TO SPEAK THIS EVENING. AS YOU KNOW, A PRIVATE COMPANY WANTS TO BUILD A PRIVATE ELF ALL PLANT, 7.5 MILLION GALLONS PER YEAR OF THE HIGHLY FLAMMABLE ETHANOL. JUST A FEW FOOTBALL FIELD LENGTHS FROM WHERE WE SIT TONIGHT. AT SOME POINT, JUST LIKE COMMISSIONER ROSS SAID, THE COMPANY WILL HAVE TO COME TO THE CITY TO OBTAIN A -- BUILDING PERMIT. IT PROHIBITS CHEMICAL MANUFACTURING FACILITIES IN OUR CITY, WE MUST DENY THE BUILDING PERMIT. THE UNITED STATES GOVERNMENT CLASSIFIES ETHANOL PRODUCTION FACILITIES AS CHEMICAL PROCESSING PLANTS. OUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN PROHIBITS CHEMICAL MANUFACTURING. IT IS CLEAR AS DAY THIS IS NOT ALLOWED. HOWEVER, OUR CITY ATTORNEY HAS SAID, IN MY

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OPINION, THIS IS MORE COMPLEX THAN A SODDEN OUTSIDE LEGAL OPINION. IN MY EXPERIENCE, I FOUND WHEN PEOPLE SAY AN ISSUE IS MORE COMPLEX IT'S BECAUSE THEY DON'T LIKE THE ANSWER THAT IS CLEARLY IN FRONT OF THEM. I PUT IN A FREEDOM OF INFORMATION ACT REQUEST TO SEE ALL THE COMMUNICATIONS BETWEEN THE CITY AND THE LAW FIRM. LET ME SHARE WHAT I FOUND. IN THE REQUEST, 2024-512, I WOULD ENCOURAGE EVERYONE TO LOOK AT IT. MS. BUCK RIGHTLY SO PROVIDED DETAILED INFORMATION TO THE LAW FIRM. AFTER THAT, MS. BOCK AND MS. GIBSON HAD A TELEPHONE CONFERENCE WITH THE LAW FIRM. AFTER THAT MEETING, MS. GIBSON SENT AN EMAIL PROVIDING WHAT I BELIEVE WAS CHERRY PICKED INFORMATION TO THE LAW FIRM SPECIFICALLY DELVING DEEPER INTO THE HISTORY SURROUNDING BUILDING PERMITS IN 2016 WHICH HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH CHEMICAL PROCESSING.

BURIED WITHIN HER MESSAGE IS A REVEALING STATEMENT, QUOTE, IF YOU FIND ANY PEARLS IN HERE AND WANT ME TO LOOK FOR MORE DETAILS, JUST LET ME KNOW. SO, COME ON, YOU ARE NOT FOOLING ANYONE. I AM HOPING THIS OPINION IS A FAIR AND BALANCED OPINION. JUST FROM WHAT I READ IN THE EMAILS IN MY OPINION, IT IS NOT GOING TO BE. I'M NOT GOING TO PAY MUCH ATTENTION TO IT. THE CITY NEEDS TO FOLLOW THE LAW AND DENY THE BUILDING PERMIT, NOT SPENDING TAXPAYER MONEY LOOKING FOR EXCUSES TO ALLOW IT. SO, I JUST WANT TO SAY THAT FOR THOSE WHO BELIEVE THEY CAN BULLDOZER OVER THIS COMMUNITY AND THEIR CONCERNS WITH PRESENTATIONS AND LAWYERLY COMPLEXITY, I SAY THIS. WE ARE A SMALL TOWN. WE WILL NOT BE SILENCED. WE WILL NOT BE BOUGHT. WE WILL NOT STAND BY AND WATCH WHILE OUR CITY'S FUTURE IS JEOPARDIZED FOR THE SAKE OF GARNERING FAVOR WITH THE RICH AND THE POWERFUL. SO, BUCKLE UP. BECAUSE THIS IS FAR FROM OVER. WE ARE JUST GETTING STARTED. THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU, MS. KRISHNA. WE INVITE MISSES KIM WOOLFORD TO

THE PODIUM. WELCOME. >> GOOD EVENING. MY NAME IS KIM WOOLFORD. I LIVE AT 1315 BROOME STREET. THIS IS ACTUALLY KIND OF A PUBLIC SERVICE ANNOUNCEMENT, JUST TO MAKE THE PUBLIC AWARE. STORM SEASON IS UPON US. IT IS COMING EVERY YEAR. I WANT TO MAKE YOU AWARE THE STATE OF FLORIDA HAS A PROGRAM CALLED MY SAFE HOME FLORIDA. THEY HAVE GRANT MONEY AVAILABLE FOR PEOPLE. I THINK FOR EVERY DOLLAR YOU PUT IN, THEY PUT INTO DOLLARS. HAD I KNOWN ABOUT THE PROGRAM, I COULD'VE ONLY SPENT $5000 ON MY ROOF INSTEAD OF 15. SO, IT'S A GREAT PROGRAM ESPECIALLY FOR PEOPLE WHO DID NOT GET A 50% PAY RAISE LAST YEAR. AGAIN, IT IS OPEN TO EVERYBODY. THE NAME OF IT IS MY SAFE HOME FLORIDA. THANK YOU VERY MUCH, COMMISSIONERS. I APPRECIATE YOUR TIME.

>> THANK YOU. I APPRECIATE THE INFORMATION.

>> IT'S GREAT. >> OH, YEAH. LET'S INVITE

INAUDIBLE ] TO THE PODIUM. >> 1014 MAGNOLIA WOODS COURT. I SERVED WITH THE COMMISSIONER'S LETTER THAT I SENT TO THE VP.

I SUPPOSE ALL OF YOU RECEIVED IT. I AM NOT HERE TO ARGUE ON THE VALIDITY OF COMMISSIONER SAID, THIS WILL COME TO THE COMMISSION WHEN A BUILDING PERMIT WILL BE ISSUED. BUT I DID WANT TO REMIND YOU I CAME IN FROM THIS COMMISSION ON DECEMBER 5TH, 2023 TO REMIND YOU OF FEDERAL LAW, THE RIGHT TO KNOW THE EMERGENCY PLANNING, AND THE RIGHT TO KNOW ACT. IT'S A FEDERAL LAW THAT REQUIRES INDUSTRY TO REPORT ON THE RELEASE OF CHEMICALS TO FEDERAL, STATE AND LOCAL OFFICIALS. THAT INVOLVES YOU.

IT ALSO REQUIRES YOU, IN THIS CASE, AND I AM QUOTING FROM THE ACT, TO USE THIS REPORT TO PREPARE AND PROTECT THEIR COMMUNITIES FROM POTENTIAL RISKS. AND I WANT TO URGE YOU NOT TO DISMISS THAT IMPORTANT RESPONSIBILITY. AS WE ALL KNOW, THIS COMMISSION HAS RETAINED THE SERVICES OF AN OUTSIDE LAWYER TO LOOK AT A LEGAL ISSUE. BUT, FROM WHERE I STAND, THIS COMMISSION HAS YET TO DO WHAT THE LAW REQUIRES, WHICH IS TO HAVE A GROUP OF EXPIRATORY COMPANY COME AND LOOK AT THIS PROPOSED PLANT AND EVALUATE WHAT THE RISKS ARE TO

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PROTECT OUR COMMUNITY. I THINK SOME FALSE ALLEGATIONS ARE BEING MADE. FOR EXAMPLE, DON'T WORRY ABOUT IT, YOU KNOW, GASOLINE IS MORE FLAMMABLE. YES, IT IS. THERE ARE A LOT OF GASOLINE STATIONS IN TOWN. NONE OF THEM HAS CHLORINE. NONE OF THEM HAS AMMONIA. NONE OF THEM HAVE SULFUR. SO ON AND SO FORTH. IN THE PARTICULAR CIRCUMSTANCES THAT WE HAVE AT THAT SITE , UNTIL PROVEN OTHERWISE, IN MY OPINION, MAKE THIS AN INCREDIBLE RISK FOR THIS COMMUNITY IN TERMS OF SAFETY AND IN TERMS OF HEALTH. WHAT CAN HAPPEN AT THAT PLANT IN A FIRE -- AND I WILL DOCUMENT THIS LATER, IN A FIRE, IS SOMETHING THAT VERY FEW PEOPLE, I THINK, IN THIS COMMUNITY, ARE READY TO ASSESS. THIS COULD BE A NIGHTMARE SCENARIO FOR THIS COMMUNITY. AN ETHANOL FIRE COMBINED WITH A MOAN YEAH AND CHLORINE, COMBINED WITH SULFUR CAN PRODUCE A VAST AMOUNT OF HAZARDOUS OR TOXIC CHEMICALS THAT COULD IMPACT AND DESTROY THIS COMMUNITY. -- IT'S TOURISM AND SO FORTH. I AM URGING YOU. IT IS YOUR RESPONSIBILITY, A LOT OF RESPECT FOR YOU HERE, BUT YOU NEED TO RELY ON OUTSIDE EXPERTS THAT CAN COME IN AND LOOK AT THIS AND SAY, IS THIS REALLY A GOOD IDEA FOR FERNANDINA BEACH? I THINK IT IS NOT. AS THE PREVIOUS SPEAKER SAID, WE WILL ENGAGE IN THIS. I THINK WE CAN PROVE OTHERWISE. THANK YOU VERY

MUCH. APPRECIATE YOU. >> MISSES JOYCE TUTEN?

>> HI, JOYCE TUTEN, 2021 BEACH STREET, THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND SERVICE. IT IS GETTING LATE. MY FIRST HAT I WILL PUT ON IS, NOT MADE FROM CORN BUT A WASTE PRODUCT. I AM JUST NOT FOR IT HERE. I EMAILED YOU ALL A FEW HOURS AGO. YOU PROBABLY DIDN'T GET IT BECAUSE I SENT IT LATE. I SENT YOU THE LETTER TO THE EDITOR I WROTE THAT GOT PUBLISHED IN LATE MARCH IN THE NEWS LEADER. I WILL PUT ON MY CHEMISTRY TEACHER HAT. I TAUGHT CHEMISTRY FOR 10 YEARS. ETHANOL IS A CHEMICAL. ITS NAME IS GOVERNED BY THE UNION OF PURE AND APPLIED CHEMISTRY. IF YOU HAVE ONE CARBON , A FULLY SATURATED CARBON, IT IS CALLED METHANE. IF YOU HAVE TWO CARBONS, BUTANE, THREE, I'M SORRY. TWO, ETHANE, THREE, BUTANE, PROPANE, UNTIL YOU GET TO NUMBER EIGHT, OCTANE, WHAT WE PUT IN OUR CAR. IF YOU REMOVE ONE OF THE HYDROGENS AND PUT A FUNCTIONAL ALCOHOL GROUP ON IT, THEN YOU CHANGE IT TO AN ALCOHOL. THEN YOU HAVE ETHANOL, METHANOL, AND IF YOU PUT THE ALCOHOL ON THE SECOND CARBON, IT IS NOW I SO. IT WOULDN'T BE PROPANOL. IT WOULD BE RUBBING ALCOHOL. CHEMICALS HAVE TO HAVE SUPER SPECIFIC NAMING'S.

YOU KNOW? WE CAN'T JUST SAY RUBBING ALCOHOL. YOU HAVE TO SAY ISA PROPANOL ALCOHOL BECAUSE IT MAKES IT MUCH MORE CLEAR. SO, ETHANOL IS A CHEMICAL. IN OUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN SAYS WE CAN'T HAVE CHEMICAL MANUFACTURING. AND THE RYAN AIR APARTMENT SAID THE NEW USE WAS FOR CHEMICAL MANUFACTURING. IT IS, IN MY OPINION, INCREDIBLY CLEARCUT THAT THIS BUILDING PERMIT SHOULD BE DENIED. I ALSO AM ESPECIALLY CONCERNED THAT IF WE APPROVE IT, IT'S -- IT IS CRACKING THE DOOR. IT IS A SLIPPERY SLOPE. WHAT IS NEXT? BECAUSE THERE IS A LOT OF CHEMICALS YOU CAN MAKE FROM WOOD PRODUCTS, INCLUDING NITROCELLULOSE. YOU TAKE THE CELLULOSE INSTEAD OF SATURATING IT WITH AN ALCOHOL, YOU USE NITRIC ACID . YOU SATURATE WITH NITRATES. I HAVE NITROCELLULOSE. IT IS A SUPER USEFUL CHEMICAL. WE USE IT IN LACQUER, NAIL POLISH REMOVER, YOU NAME IT. WITH THE REQUEST THAT TO PRODUCE THAT? WOULD WE APPROVE THAT? IF WE OPEN THE DOOR TO THIS, WHAT OTHER COMPANIES WITHIN CITY LIMITS WOULD SAY, HEY, I'VE GOT SOME CHEMICAL MANUFACTURING I WOULD LIKE TO DO? I JUST DON'T GET IT. IT IS THE WRONG PLACE, WRONG TIME, WRONG LOCATION. THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU. MR. PAUL WARD? >> GOOD EVENING, EVERYONE. AS I

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PROMISED AS MUCH AS I CAN GET HERE, I MIGHT COME AND JUST REMIND YOU, IT WOULD BE REALLY NICE TO MOVE THE COMMENTS SECTION FOR CITIZENS -- YOU KNOW -- YOU KNOW, ITEMS THAT ARE NOT ON THE AGENDA, BACK TO THE BEGINNING OF THE MEETING.

I WAS KIND OF SCROLLING AROUND SOMEWHERE IN THE GOVERNMENT SITE FOR FERNANDINA BEACH. SOMEWHERE, I FOUND A CHART . ON THE CHART, THE VERY FIRST BLOCKER, IT'S KIND OF LIKE AN ORGANIZATIONAL CHART. YOU KNOW? THE VERY FIRST BLOCKER, IT HAS GOT CITIZEN. THEN IT KIND OF GOES DOWN, YOU KNOW, TO THE CITY STAFF, COMMISSIONERS AND EVERYTHING. SO, I HOPE SOMEDAY YOU -- SOON, YOU WILL ENTERTAIN. IF NOT, IT'S A GREAT EDUCATION FOR US IN HERE TO LEARN THE PROCESSES OF HOW GOVERNMENT WORKS. BUT I HOPE SOMEWHERE ALONG THE LINE HERE IN THE NEAR FUTURE YOU WILL LOOK TO CHANGE THAT. THANK

[9. CITY MANAGER/CITY ENGINEER REPORTS]

YOU. >> THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. THAT IS ALL THE REQUESTS TO SPEAK TONIGHT. IS THERE ANYBODY ELSE WHO WISHES TO SPEAK TONIGHT? ALL RIGHT. SEEING NONE, WE WILL JUMP INTO THE CITY MANAGER/CITY ENGINEER REPORTS.

>>

>> MR. ROSS SAYS YOU'RE NOT GETTING AWAY THAT EASILY.

QUESTIONS FOR MR. ROSS? >> IT JUST SO HAPPENS -- BECAUSE I HAVE NOTHING BETTER TO DO WITH MY TIME, WEIGHING THE LEASE FOR THE -- MARKET THAT HAPPENS EVERY SATURDAY

MORNING. >> CORRECT.

>> WE ARE SUPPOSED TO RENEW THAT. IT IS A FIVE-YEAR LEASE.

IT IS SUPPOSED TO BE RENEWED AT THE END OF THIS YEAR. CORRECT?

>> WE ARE SUPPOSED TO BE LOOKING INTO THAT AND RELEASING BY THE END OF JUNE ACCORDING TO THE RELEASE.

>> CORRECT. >> I AM IN FAVOR OF RENEWING THE LEASE. I HOPE THE CITY NEGOTIATING THAT, FINDING OUT THEY ARE INTERESTED IN DOING THAT LEASE I THINK IS A GREAT PLACE FOR IT.

>> ACKNOWLEDGED. >> IT'S ON OUR LIST.

>> THANK YOU. >> WE ARE ALL CLEAR. I DON'T THINK ANY COMMISSIONER IS OPPOSED TO THE FARMERS MARKET? LEASE GETS RENEWED AS IT IS SUPPOSED TO.

>> THANK YOU. >> IT IS BLOWING UP BECAUSE IT WAS ALLEGED SOME OF THE CITY COMMISSIONERS WANTED TO MOVE THE FARMERS MARKET. WHAT I AM SAYING IS, WE WANT TO KEEP IT

[10. CITY ATTORNEY REPORTS]

WHERE IT IS AND GIVE IT ANOTHER FIVE YEARS AT LEAST. THAT IS

ALL. >> NOTED. THANK YOU. THANK YOU

FOR WORKING ON THAT. >> YES, REAL QUICK, UPDATES FOR 2 OF OUR LAWSUITS. THE FIRST ONE IS AGAINST THE PORT AUTHORITY. SO, IF YOU REMEMBER, WE HAD A MOTION FOR SUMMARY CHECK THAT THE CITY FILED THAT SAID THERE ARE NO FACTS THAT WE DISPUTE. WE WANT THE JUDGE TO GO AHEAD AND MAKE A DECISION BASED ON THE LAW. THERE WAS A CASE MANAGEMENT CONFERENCE LAST TUESDAY , THE NINTH, APRIL THE NINTH. THIS IS A NUDE -- A NEW JUDGE THAT REPRESENTS NASSAU COUNTY. SHE SAID HER CASE HAS BEEN MOVED TO JACKSONVILLE. SO THE JUDGE ASKED THE PARTIES ABOUT OUR MEDIATION HISTORY AND SETTLEMENT TALKS. WE EXPLAINED THEY HAVE BEEN EXPENSIVE. SHE ASKED IF THERE WAS A CHANCE TO SETTLE. THE PORT AUTHORITY'S ATTORNEY SAID , YES, HE THOUGHT THERE WAS STILL A CHANCE TO SETTLE THE CASE. THE JUDGE ORDERED US TO GO BACK TO MEDIATION WHICH IS NOT THE SAME PUBLIC MEDIATION WE HAD. IT WOULD BE PRIVATE MEDIATION, MEANING NO CITY COMMISSIONERS OR PORT COMMISSIONERS ARE THERE. SO, THAT'S WHERE WE ARE. THE JUDGE HAS SAID THE TRIAL SCHEDULED IN MAY NEEDS TO BE POSTPONED. AND AFTER THE MEDIATION, SHE WOULD GET A HEARING FOR SOME JUDGMENTS TO BE RESCHEDULED. WE HAVE AN APRIL 30TH MEETING WITH HER AGAIN TO RESCHEDULE THE HEARING FOR SUMMARY JUDGMENT AND THE TRIAL DATE.

>> QUESTION. FROM THE LAST MEETING, YOU STILL HAVE ENOUGH DIRECTION TO NEGOTIATE WHAT OUR TERMS -- AND I THINK WE HAVE ALL EXPRESSED WHAT OUR TERMS SHOULD BE.

>> YES. I DO. I HAVE ENOUGH FROM THE LAST MEETING. YES.

>> THE ONLY QUESTION I HAVE, TAMMY, WHEN IS THIS MEDIATION

SCHEDULED? >> WE WANT TO GET IT SCHEDULED AS SOON AS POSSIBLE. IT IS NOT SCHEDULED YET. I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE MEDIATION WITH THEM IN THE NEXT 45 DAYS. WHAT I HAVE DONE IS, I REACHED OUT TO THE OUTSIDE COUNSEL. I SAID, I DID NOT WANT TO USE A PRIVATE ATTORNEY MEDIATOR. THEIR COST ARE FOR, A HALF-DAY OF MEDIATION, IT WOULD BE 4000 OR $5000. THE CITY HAS A CONTRACT WITH THE DEPARTMENT OF

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ADMINISTRATIVE HEARINGS IN TALLAHASSEE. THEY PROVIDE MEDIATION SERVICES FOR $200.00 PER HOUR. SO, I SUGGESTED TO THE PORT AUTHORITY THAT'S WHAT WE USE FOR OUR MEDIATOR TO SAVE

COSTS. >> THANK YOU.

>> YES, SIR. >> IF THEY DON'T AGREE WITH

THAT, WHAT IS OUR POSITION? >> WE HAVE TO GO BACK TO THE JUDGE. THE JUDGE ORDERED US TO MEDIATE THIS. IF WE CAN'T AGREE ON A MEDIATOR, THEN APRIL 30TH, WE GO BACK TO THE JUDGE AND SAY WE CANNOT AGREE ON A MEDIATOR.

>> I WANT TO SAY THAT THE AMOUNT OF MONEY THAT HAS BEEN SPENT ON THE GETTING THIS IS ASTOUNDING. THIS IS JUST PROLONGING THE DECISION. SO -- I DO NOT THINK MEDIATION WILL

BE PRODUCTIVE. THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU, MR. ROSS. I THINK MY WORD, EGREGIOUS, WOULD ALSO PLAY, TOO.

>> WE AGREE. >> THE OTHER CASE I WANTED TO UPDATE YOU -- AND THIS IS THE BRICKS CASE. IN THAT CASE, WE

[11. CITY CLERK REPORTS]

ARE WORKING ON A MEDIATION DATE TO FURTHER MEDIATE THAT CASE.

>> EXCELLENT. ANY QUESTIONS ON THAT ONE? THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR BEING WITH US TONIGHT. CITY CLERK?

>> THANK YOU, MAYOR. I WANTED TO EXPLAIN THE GENERAL ELECTION AND THE RUNOFF ELECTION. THERE HAS BEEN SOME CONFUSION THAT HAS COME TO MY ATTENTION. AND THE WAY THE PROCESS WORKS IS, THE GENERAL ELECTION IS A MOVING TARGET DEPENDING ON WHETHER OR NOT THERE ARE THREE OR FEWER -- OR MORE INDIVIDUALS IN A SEAT. SO, THE GENERAL ELECTION WILL TAKE PLACE IN AUGUST OR NOVEMBER. IT DEPENDS ON WHETHER THERE ARE MORE THAN TWO CANDIDATES RUNNING IN THE SAME SEAT. THE THREE CANDIDATES ARE RUNNING IN SEAT ONE, NAMES WILL APPEAR ON THE AUGUST BALLOT. IF TWO CANDIDATES ARE RUNNING IN SEAT ONE, THEIR NAMES WILL APPEAR ON THE NOVEMBER BALLOT.

INFORMATION IS AVAILABLE ON THE CITY WEBSITE UNDER THE ELECTIONS TAB. IF ANYBODY HAS ANY QUESTIONS, I AM AT YOUR SERVICE UNAVAILABLE. THANK YOU.

>> MR. ROSS? >> THIS JUST POPPED INTO MY HEAD. SO, THE ELECTION FOR THE MAYOR, IT WILL BE IN NOVEMBER?

[12. MAYOR/COMMISSIONER COMMENTS]

>> THANK YOU. >> ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU, CITY CLERK. CITY COMMISSIONER COMMENTS? COMMISSIONER ROSS?

>> I'M GOING TO DO SOMETHING I DON'T USUALLY DO.

>> ALL RIGHT. >> I DO NOT GO ON FACEBOOK. I DON'T EVEN KNOW HOW TO GET ON FACEBOOK. WHAT I WAS HANDED SOMETHING THAT WAS WRITTEN ON FACEBOOK. I WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS IT. THIS WAS WRITTEN BY SOMEBODY NAMED MACK MORRIS.

IT SAYS, CITY OFFICIALS WANT TO BUILD ANOTHER HOMELESS SHELTER AT WATERFRONT CMD. IT WENT ON TO POST A PICTURE OF WHAT APPEARS TO BE -- WE DON'T KNOW -- A HOMELESS PERSON ON ONE OF THE BENCHES IN COMPLEMENT OUR MAYOR. BECAUSE, OUR MAYOR, HIS ABSOLUTE -- MY APPROVAL, AND WOULD HAVE DONE THE SAME THING IF YOU HAD TO DO IT. HE DID IT FAR MORE ELEGANTLY THAN I COULD'VE DONE IT. HE WROTE THE FOLLOWING THING. MACK, THIS IS RIDICULOUS. THE LATEST PARKER PLAN IS A RE-FASHION THAT INCLUDES A GAZEBO, NOT A LOCAL POLICE DO A GREAT JOB FOLLOWING FLORIDA LAW AND HELPING HOMELESS FIND SHELTER WHEN THEY CAN. HE WENT ON TO SAY, I DON'T RESPOND 99% OF THE TIME WHEN YOU ARE PUBLICLY BASHING ME. I CAN TAKE THAT. I HAVE TO RESPOND WHEN YOU USE A REAL PICTURE OF A REAL PERSON IN OUR COMMUNITY WHO IS DOWN ON HIS LUCK. DON'T USE THIS PERSON AS A PROP TO TRY TO STOP OUR TOWN FROM GETTING A GAZEBO, UPDATED LANDSCAPING, AT A KIDS PLAYGROUND AT THE RIVER. THIS IS WIDELY INAPPROPRIATE, AND DOES NOT SHOWCASE OUR COMMUNITY VALUES. I JUST WANTED TO GIVE A SHOUT OUT TO OUR MAYOR FOR HAVING THE COURAGE

AND FORESIGHT TO DO THAT. >> YES. THANK YOU FOR DOING THAT. THE SECOND THING I WANTED TO BRING UP IS THAT THERE IS A -- I WROTE AN ARTICLE RECENTLY THAT WAS PUBLISHED ABOUT THE SUBSIDY OF THE MARINA. JUST TO BE FACTUAL, THE CITY MARINA ADVISORY BOARD IS MEETING ON -- I THINK IT IS NEXT MONDAY.

>> THE 22ND. >> ON THE 22ND AT 5:00 IN EAST CHAMBERS TO DISCUSS -- TO DISCUSS METHODS OF TRYING TO REDUCE THE SUBSIDY. I WOULD HOPE THAT ALL INTERESTED PARTIES AND CANDIDATES FOR CITY COMMISSION WOULD ATTEND

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THE MEETING AND CONTRIBUTE TO THE CONVERSATION. THAT'S IT.

THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU. VERY NICE OF YOU TO SAY, THE FIRST PART OF IT. THANK YOU.

>> IT WAS ACTUALLY VERY WELL DESERVED.

>> MR. ANTON? >> HEARING MR. ROSS IS COMMENTS, I WILL ADD A COMPLIMENT AS WELL. I APPRECIATE THAT. YOU GUYS ARE TOO NICE. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

BRADLEY. >> ALL RIGHT.

>> I APPRECIATE THAT. COMMISSIONER ASKEW?

>> MAYOR, I FOLLOWED THAT ONE IN REAL TIME. IT WAS AN EXCITING THREAT ON FACEBOOK FOR A LITTLE BIT THERE. BUT EITHER WAY, I WANT TO WISH EVERYONE A HAPPY SHRIMP POSSIBLE THAT IS COMING UP. EVERYONE BE SAFE. LET'S JUST HOPE FOR SOME GREAT WEATHER, AND ANOTHER GREAT SHRIMP FESTIVAL. THAT IS

IT. >> VICE MAYOR?

>> THANK YOU, MAYOR. I DON'T KNOW HOW TO FOLLOW ALL THAT UP AT ONE TIM. I WILL JUST SAY WHAT I WAS THINKING EARLIER.

THAT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THAT. BUT I WANT TO RE-CONGRATULATE OUR WRESTLERS FROM FB HS. THAT WAS AMAZING TO HEAR THAT THEY WENT AS FAR AS THEY DID AND ACHIEVED WHAT THEY HAD DONE WITH THAT PROGRAM. I KNOW MR. EMANUEL IS VERY PROUD , YOU KNOW, WORKING WITH THE PROGRAM FOR 7 YEARS. IT JUST TOUCHES ME TO SEE THEY ARE MOVING FORWARD IN THE NEXT LEVEL IN THE NEXT POSITION. I WANTED TO ALSO THINK ABOUT THE SHRIMP FESTIVAL AND TELL EVERYONE TO BE SAFE. I KNOW THAT'S A FEW WEEKS AWAY. HOWEVER, I LOOK FORWARD TO IT IN OUR TOWN. IT BECOMES VERY LIVELY FOR THAT WEEK AND WEEKEND, VERY LIVELY, A LOT OF ACTIVITY WITH OUR LAW ENFORCEMENT AND FIREFIGHTERS. THEY HAVE A LOT OF CALLS, A LOT OF STUFF TO DEAL WITH, A LOT OF EXTRA CALLS AND SAYS THEY NEED TO DEAL WITH. I WILL ALWAYS BE THINKING OF THEM AND HOW THEY SUPPORT OUR COMMUNITY FIRST AND FOREMOST, FIRST RESPONDERS.

THANK YOU TO THE MAYOR. I DON'T EVEN KNOW HOW TO TALK ABOUT ALL THE REST. THAT WAS VERY INTERESTING. THAT WAS A GREAT MEETING. I LOOK FORWARD TO THE NEXT ONE.

>> THANK YOU, VICE MAYOR. I WILL START MY COMMENTS. THANK YOU TO MY FELLOW COMMISSIONERS FOR THE SUPPORT ON THAT. I APPRECIATE YOU GUYS READING THAT. THANK YOU. JUST THANK YOU. I HAVE TWO ANNOUNCEMENTS ABOUT THE TIME CAPSULE. I WANT TO THANK THE PUBLIC TOWARD SENIOR MASTER MECHANIC FOR BUILDING A TIME CAPSULE WHICH WILL BE BURIED AS PART OF OUR 200 CELEBRATION. WE WILL BURY IT IN JANUARY. START THINKING ABOUT WHAT YOU WANT TO PUT IN THIS TIME CAPSULE. I BELIEVE --

>> MAYOR, THAT IS THE TIME CAPSULE.

>> I HAVE SEEN IT. RIGHT THERE. CHAD BUILT THAT. THANK YOU. IT IS A TREASURE CHEST. WE ARE THE PIRATES, OF COURSE. IT LOOKS REALLY NICE. THAT WILL BE BURIED IN JANUARY. THINK ABOUT WHAT YOU WANT TO GO IN THERE. IF YOU HAVE ANYTHING YOU WISH TO INCLUDE, PLEASE REACH OUT TO MARY. SHE CAN HEAR THAT AND WE CAN INCLUDE SOME GOOD STUFF. IT WILL BE THERE A FEW DECADES.

MAKE YOUR MARK ON HISTORY BY ADDING TO THE TIME CAPSULE. THE RECYCLE BIN AND FOOD DRIVE, MR. ROSS WAS ON IT LAST YEAR. IT'S A GREAT TIME, THIS SATURDAY, APRIL 20TH. SERIOUSLY, THE LINE BACKS UP DOWN THE STREET TO GET INTO THE PUBLIC WORKS YARD VERY EARLY IN THE MORNING. OUT THERE EARLY IF YOU WANT TO BE PART OF THE RECYCLE EVENT. WE TAKE EVERYTHING, AS I SAID, WE EVEN TAKE DONATIONS. GET OUT THERE AND BE PART OF THAT AS WELL. IN GENERAL, I WANT TO COME TO THE POLICE DEPARTMENT.

YOU GUYS DO GOOD WORK. THANK YOU FOR ALL THE WORK YOU DO IN GENERAL. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. WITH THAT -- OH, ONE MORE THING. I DON'T THINK THIS WAS COMING TO THE CHAMBERS. ME AND THE VICE MAYOR WERE JUST TALKING IN A PUBLIC MEETING RIGHT NOW ABOUT GOING TO RECOGNIZE THE COUNTY CHAMPS, THE MIDDLE SCHOOL PIRATES JUST WON

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