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>> I WANT TO CALL MARINA ADVISORY BOARD MEETING TO ORDER.
[1. CALL TO ORDER]
WOULD YOU PLEASE READ THE ROLL CALL PLEASE, MA'AM?>> LET'S DO THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE FIRST AND THEN WE'LL DO THE ROLL CALL.
>> THANK YOU. NOW WE CAN DO THE ROLL CALL. THANK YOU.
>> MEMBER SPRATTO. MEMBER BLANCHARD.
>> HAS EVERYBODY READ THE MINUTES FOR THE LAST MEETING?
[4. APPROVAL OF MINUTES]
>> I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO ACCEPT THOSE MINUTES.
>> MOTION HAS BEEN MADE AND SECONDED. ALL IN FAVOR?
[5. PUBLIC COMMENT REGARDING ITEMS NOT ON THE AGENDA]
>> MR. SHARPE, WOULD YOU LIKE TO COME TO THE PODIUM, INTRODUCE YOURSELF, AND GIVE YOUR ADDRESS?
I LIVE AT 130 NORTH 9TH STREET IN FERNANDINA BEACH.
I HAD SOME COMMENTS THE OTHER NIGHT AT OUR CITY COMMISSION MEETING ABOUT THE CONSTRUCTION OF THE NEW PARK DOWNTOWN, WHICH I'M NOT IN FAVOR OF.
I DON'T THINK THE PUBLIC IS IN FAVOR OF IT.
I THINK THE SPECIAL INTEREST GROUPS HAVE BECOME INVOLVED.
I KNOW OUR MAYOR IS KEENLY INVOLVED AND WANTS A DOWNTOWN PARK HERE, BUT I DO KNOW THAT IT'S GOING TO CAUSE AN INCREASE IN OUR TAXES, WHICH I'M NOT IN FAVOR OF.
BUT AS FAR AS THE MARINA ADVISORY BOARD GOES, I'M JUST CURIOUS.
DID THEY ASK FOR YOUR INPUT? ANYBODY?
>> I KNOW THEY DIDN'T ASK FOR THE CHARTER CAPTAINS ASSOCIATION'S INPUT EITHER.
THE ONLY SPECIAL INTEREST GROUP THAT GOT REPRESENTED WAS THE PETANQUE CLUB.
NONE OF THE OTHER STAKEHOLDERS WERE INVOLVED, AS FAR AS I KNOW.
NONE OF THE IMPORTANT ONES THAT ARE RIGHT ON THE WATERFRONT ANYWAY WERE INVOLVED.
I'M NOT SURE IF YOU NOTICED ON THE PLAN, BUT A GOOD PORTION OF THE RAMP THEY'RE GOING TO TAKE UP, THEY'RE GOING TO LEAVE A SECTION OF IT AND TAKE A SECTION BACK.
NOW, I WAS TALKING TO CAPTAIN ALLEN MILLS ABOUT THAT.
HE SAYS, AND I DON'T KNOW IF THIS IS TRUE OR NOT, BUT HE SAID THAT THAT RAMP WAS ESTABLISHED WITH A GRANT MONEY AND MOST LIKELY CANNOT BE ADJUSTED LIKE THAT.
I WOULD ASK THAT YOU LOOK INTO THAT.
WELL, WE SHOULD PUT THE CITY COMMISSIONERS ON NOTICE THAT THAT IS A POSSIBILITY.
ALLEN DID NOT GIVE ME THE PARTICULARS, BUT IF I WAS GOING TO TAKE SOMEBODY'S WORD FOR IT AROUND HERE, I'M GOING TO TAKE ALLEN MILLS.
HE'S PRETTY UPSET ABOUT IT TOO, THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE SEVERELY IMPACTED ON PARKING.
I TOLD THE COMMISSIONERS THE OTHER DAY THAT THE STANDARD MARINE BUILDING IS GOING TO BE CONVERTED INTO AN ENTERTAINMENT VENUE. ALREADY APPROVED.
THE OLD MARINA RESTAURANT IS GOING TO BE OPENED UP SOON AS A STEAKHOUSE AND INCREASE OUR TRAFFIC.
ATLANTIC SEAFOOD IS GOING TO BE EXPANDED, QUADRUPLE IT SIZE, WITH THE SEAFOOD MARKET AND A RESTAURANT.
I THINK IT'S INSULTING TO SAY TO ME OR ANYBODY ELSE THAT THAT IS PARKING NEUTRAL BECAUSE THEY HAVEN'T TAKEN ANY PARKING SPOTS AWAY FROM THAT.
IF YOU ADD A GIANT PARK AND EXPAND A RESTAURANT TO FOUR TIMES ITS SIZE AND DON'T ADD PARKING, IT IS NOT PARKING NEUTRAL.
THAT'S RIDICULOUS. THE PEOPLE THAT USE THE MARINA, THE CHARTER CAPTAINS, AND THE PEOPLE THAT HAVE BOATS DOWN THERE, AND I HAVE A BOAT DOWN THERE.
I HAVE A VESTED INTEREST, FULL DISCLOSURE.
THAT'S NOT REALLY WHY I'M HERE.
>> YOU'RE SPEAKING TO THE CHOIR. [LAUGHTER]
>> I CAN WALK FROM MY HOUSE TO THE BOAT, SO I DON'T HAVE TO HAVE A CAR DOWN THERE.
BUT I WOULD LIKE TO BE ABLE TO PARK MY VEHICLE DOWN THERE.
WHAT'S FUNNY, MAYOR BEAN ALSO SAID, WE NEED A PLACE FOR PEOPLE TO COME DOWN AND WATCH THE SUNSET.
I COME DOWN HERE AND WATCH THE SUNSET ALL TIME. NEVER GETS OLD.
I WATCH IT ALL TIME. IT'S NOT FIVE DEEP BACK THERE.
THERE'S 30 PEOPLE OUT THERE WATCHING THE SUNSET.
NOW WE HAVE A LONG BREAKWATER OUT THERE ALONG THAT PROPOSED PARK AREA. THERE'S NOBODY OUT THERE.
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PEOPLE ARE NOT DYING FOR A SPOT TO SEE THE SUNSET DOWN HERE.PLENTY OF SPACE TO DO IT. THERE'S PLENTY OF DOCK.
THERE'S PLENTY OF FOOTAGE OUT THERE IN FRONT OF BRETT'S AND ALONG THAT LITTLE PARKING AREA RIGHT THERE.
I THINK THAT IS ALSO JUST A GIMMICK TO TALK ABOUT THAT.
IT'S AN IMAGINARY PROBLEM INSTEAD OF A REAL PROBLEM LIKE PARKING.
I NOTICED COMMISSIONER ROSS IS HERE.
COMMISSIONER ROSS TOLD ME THAT WE DON'T HAVE A PARKING PROBLEM IN DOWNTOWN FERNANDINA BEACH.
WELL, WHEN I TRY TO GO DOWN THOSE TWO-WAY STREETS WITH MY TRUCK AND IT TURNS INTO A ONE-WAY PERILOUS JOURNEY BECAUSE ONLY ONE CAR CAN GET DOWN THERE BECAUSE TWO CARS ARE PARKED ON BOTH SIDES OF THE ROAD, THAT TO ME IS A PROBLEM.
WHEN I ASK OTHER PEOPLE IF WE HAVE A PROBLEM DOWNTOWN PARKING, THEY SAY YEAH.
WHEN I ASK PEOPLE ABOUT DO THEY KNOW ABOUT THE 16 PETANQUE COURTS COMING IN, THEIR FIRST QUESTION IS, WHAT IS PETANQUE? THE SECOND THING THEY SAY IS, WELL, THAT'S JUST RIDICULOUS.
WHY DO WE NEED PETANQUE COURTS ON THE WATERWAY? I THINK, AT A MINIMUM, THIS BOARD SHOULD ADDRESS THE ISSUE AS A PARKING ISSUE FOR MARINA USERS.
AT LEAST IF YOU GOT RID OF THOSE THINGS, AT LEAST MAKE SOME MORE PARKING, MOVE THAT PARK SOUTH.
I DON'T THINK WE NEED ONE DOWN THERE AT ALL BECAUSE I DON'T CARE TO PAY ANY MORE TAXES THAN I ALREADY DO.
IN MY VIEW, I THINK THERE'S NO WAY IT'S NOT GOING TO INCREASE OUR TAXES. IT JUST IS.
PETANQUE PLAYERS HAVE A WHOLE SECTION UP THERE AT CENTRAL PARK.
I DON'T SEE A GOOD REASON TO DO IT.
>> WELL, THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.
>> BY THE WAY, YOU SET THE TIMER OFF, DID YOU?
>> THE TIMER ON THE CLOCK FOR PEOPLE TALKING?
>> IT'S OKAY. [OVERLAPPING] [LAUGHTER]
I HEARD THREE. IT WAS THREE MINUTES.
>> AT THIS PARTICULAR TIME? THANK YOU, MR. SHARPE, FOR COMING AND SPEAKING TO US.
I DID WRITE A LETTER TO ALL OF THE COMMISSIONERS.
HEARD BACK FROM THREE OF THEM.
IN MY LETTER, I SPECIFICALLY TOLD THEM THAT WE DO NOT NEED PETANQUE COURTS DOWN THERE.
THERE NEEDS TO BE PARKING FOR THOSE WHO ARE BOATING SO THEY CAN GET THEIR TRAILERS AND STUFF DOWN THERE.
WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE AND PROTECT OUR WORKING WATERFRONT.
I ALSO TOLD THEM THAT WE NEED DOCKS, NOT WHAT'S DOWN THERE NOW.
THAT'S FINE. WE NEED DOCKS PUT OUT SO THAT THE SHRIMPERS CAN DOCK.
THE SHRIMPERS CANNOT DOCK AND UNLOAD IF THEY EVEN HAVE CATCH ON THERE TO UNLOAD.
WHICH THEN I ALSO SAID, AND DON'T GIVE ME THIS HULLA, AND I THINK THAT'S THE WORD I USED, SAYING THAT THERE'S NO SHRIMP IN THESE RIVERS BECAUSE THERE ARE.
I SPOKE TO A SHRIMPER THE OTHER DAY THAT HAS A BOAT DOWN HERE AND HE SAID THAT HE CANNOT GET HIS SHRIMP OFF THE BOAT.
EVEN IF HE HAD THEM, HE CAN'T GET THEM OFF.
THEN THERE'S PEOPLE THAT AREN'T BUYING THEM.
THEY'RE NOT BUYING THEM FROM HIM.
YOU'VE GOT TO KNOW PEOPLE AND SELL THEM.
IN OTHER WORDS, ATLANTIC SEAFOOD KEEPS GIVING HIM THE RUNAROUND.
I'VE GOT TO GO DOWN HERE AND MEET WITH THAT GUY, AND I AM, THAT OWNS THAT OR IS RUNNING IT. I DON'T KNOW WHO IT IS.
BUT I NEED TO GO DOWN THERE AND MEET WITH HIM BECAUSE EVIDENTLY HE'S SOMEONE YOU GOT TO TALK TO AND WE CAN GET SHRIMP OFF THAT BOAT. THAT'S ANOTHER ISSUE.
BUT IN ORDER FOR US TO BE THE BIRTHPLACE OF THE MODERN SHRIMPING INDUSTRY, HOW CAN YOU SAY THAT IF YOU DON'T HAVE ANY BOATS OUT HERE? IT'S JUST A RIVER WITH PEOPLE IN THE BOAT.
IN MY OPINION, IT IS A WASTE OF TAXPAYER DOLLARS.
PETANQUE COURTS COULD BE DOWN IN CENTRAL PARK WHERE THEY'RE AT.
THIS WATERFRONT, IF YOU WANT TO PLANT A FEW TREES DOWN HERE, THEY CAN DO THAT.
THAT BUILDING NEEDS TO BE SCALED BACK.
IT'S TOO BIG. IT'S TAKEN UP TOO MUCH OF THE WATERFRONT.
I KNOW THAT PEOPLE WANT SOMETHING DONE DOWN HERE.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT IT'S GOING TO TAKE, TALKING TO THE ELECTED OFFICIALS, BECAUSE LIKE I SAID, YOU CAN TALK TO THEM UNTIL YOU'RE BLUE IN THE FACE.
PERSONALLY, I'M FED UP WITH IT.
I'M FED UP WITH THE WAY THINGS ARE GOING IN THE CITY.
PEOPLE WHO HAVE VOTED FOR THESE PEOPLE THAT ARE ELECTED RIGHT NOW ARE FED UP TOO.
THE MORE WE TALK, DOESN'T DO ANY GOOD.
I'M SERVING ON THIS MARINA ADVISORY BOARD.
I MADE A FEW NOTES ABOUT THINGS THAT YOU SAID.
I'M SURE THAT THE COMMISSIONERS ARE LISTENING.
WE HAVE ONE IN HERE RIGHT NOW.
I PERSONALLY THINK THAT THEY NEED TO PUT A SCREECHING HALT AND NOT ALLOW THAT TO GO FORWARD.
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I DON'T KNOW WHAT IT'S GOING TO TAKE.MR. ROSS, IF YOU WANT TO COME FORWARD AND SPEAK ABOUT IT, YOU'RE MORE THAN WELCOME TO.
PEOPLE DON'T WANT ALL THAT DOWN THERE.
THE GO AHEAD, I CAME HERE TO SPEAK THE OTHER NIGHT AT THE MEETING AND I DIDN'T REALIZE THAT IT HAD ALREADY BEEN APPROVED AND NOW YOU ALL ARE GOING TO GET A CONCEPTUAL DRAWINGS OR SOMETHING FOR IT.
I'M PAYING CITY AND COUNTY TAX, AND I'M FED UP, AND I'M NOT GOING NOWHERE. I'M GOING TO BE HERE TILL I DIE.
>> I DO. I'M NOT SAYING I'M IN FAVOR OF THE PARK OR THE RESTAURANT, THE NEW ATLANTIC SEAFOOD, THAT'S BEEN PROPOSED.
BUT I DO HEAR YOU AND MR. SHARKS, TALKING ABOUT HOW YOU DON'T WANT THAT DEVELOPMENT TO GO IN, THE PARK TO GO IN.
WOULD YOU NOT AGREE THOUGH THAT THAT AREA OR THAT PROPERTY DOES NEED SOME SPRUCING UP? WHAT'D YOU SAY? I'M SORRY.
>> WHEN I WAS SPEAKING A WHILE AGO I DID SPECIFICALLY SAY THAT TREES AND GREENERY, AND STUFF LIKE THAT CAN GO IN. YEAH, I'M FOR THAT.
I DON'T HAVE THAT. SEE, WHEN PEOPLE TALK ABOUT A PARK, WE HAVE TOO MANY PARKS IN FERNANDINA BEACH, AND A LOT OF THEM AREN'T BEING UTILIZED.
THERE'S NOTHING GOING ON HERE IN FERNANDINA BEACH FOR THE CHILDREN TO DO.
ALL THESE CHILDREN AREN'T SKATEBOARDING.
IN THE SUMMER THEY'RE GOING TO GO TO THE BEACH MAYBE.
BUT IF THESE KIDS DO NOT HAVE SOMETHING TO DO, THEY'RE GOING TO GET IN TROUBLE.
THEY'RE GOING TO FIND SOMETHING TO DO, AND IT'S NOT GOING TO BE A GOOD THING.
WE NEED TO FIND STUFF FOR THE CHILDREN TO DO.
THEY'RE NOT GOING TO COME DOWN HERE AND HANG OUT AT A PETANQUE COURT.
THEY'RE NOT GOING TO COME DOWN HERE AND JUST HANG OUT.
VISITORS ARE COMING DOWN HERE.
YEAH, I'D LIKE TO COME DOWN HERE.
IF YOU WANT TO PLANT SOME TREES AND MAKE IT PRETTY, THAT'S FINE.
THAT'S NOT A WASTE OF TAXPAYER DOLLARS.
BUT PUTTING IN A PETANQUE COURT AND NOT HAVING A PLACE FOR PEOPLE TO PARK, AND THEN THAT MONSTROSITY THAT'S GOING IN, SUPPOSEDLY ATLANTIC SEAFOOD, I COULD SAY A LOT MORE ABOUT IT, BUT I'M GOING TO TRY TO REFRAIN FROM THAT.
>> I AGREE WITH YOU. [OVERLAPPING]
>> WHAT WOULD YOUR IDEAS BE? [OVERLAPPING] YOUR THOUGHTS.
>> I THINK THAT THAT'S COMPLETELY REASONABLE, TO PUT SOME GREENERY ALONG THAT PATHWAY THAT'S BEEN THE BREAKWATER FROM THE FLOODING MITIGATION WALL THAT'S THERE, TO MAKE THAT NICER, SO PEOPLE COULD SIT ALONG THERE, PUT SOME BENCHES OUT THERE.
BUT THIS GIANT PARK THAT SOLVES THIS IMAGINARY PROBLEM THAT PEOPLE JUST CAN'T GET DOWN THERE TO VIEW THE WATERFRONT.
OR THAT WE NEED 16 PETANQUE COURTS DOWN THERE FOR 50 OR 60. THERE'S 50 OR 60.
I ASKED CHIP ROSS, THE OTHER DAY HOW MANY PETANQUE PLAYERS IN THE CITY LIMITS.
HOW MANY TAX-PAYING PETANQUE PLAYERS, 50-60, 0.35 PERCENT, APPROXIMATELY, OF OUR CITY POPULATION.
FOR THE REST OF US TO PAY FOR, FOREVER.
I JUST THINK THAT DOING SOME SPRUCING UP DOWN THERE IS JUST JUST FINE.
I DON'T THINK ANYBODY WOULD HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THAT.
BUT JUST MAKE IT A NICE WALKWAY.
>> I WAS JUST CURIOUS AS TO WHY YOU'RE [OVERLAPPING].
>> I'M NOT OPPOSED TO MAKING IT NICER, I'M JUST OPPOSED TO THE GIANT PARK AND NO PARKING.
>> NOW YOU NEED TO UNDERSTAND, SIR, THAT 1, WE DON'T CONTROL ANYTHING WHERE THE DIRT IS.
>> THE CITY MANAGER IN THE PAST MADE A DEAL THAT EVERYTHING THAT'S DIRT IS REC DEPARTMENT, AND EVERYTHING THAT'S WATER IS THE MARINA.
OVER THE YEARS THAT WE'VE RUN THIS ADVISORY BOARD, TWO YEAR MAYBE, WE HAVE BROUGHT UP ALL KINDS OF WAYS TO MAKE MONEY.
BECAUSE THE COMMENT WAS, WHY ARE THE PEOPLE OF FERNANDINA BEACH SUBSIDIZING A MARINA? WELL I FEEL THE SAME WAY ABOUT THE PETANQUE COURT, MYSELF.
THE BOTTOM LINE THOUGH IS THAT EVERYTHING WE CAME UP TO MAKE MONEY WAS SHUT DOWN.
WE SAID, LET'S PUT SOME RESTAURANTS UP DOWN ON [INAUDIBLE] STREET.
LET'S PUT A COUPLE BARGES SITTING ON SOME OYSTER BEDS, AND MAKE RESTAURANTS. THAT WAS SHUT DOWN.
EVERY TIME WE'VE COME UP WITH A WAY TO TRY TO MAKE MONEY, IT WENT DOWN THE TUBES.
AS FAR AS THE APPROVAL OF THE PARK, WE WERE AGAINST IT.
AS MATTER OF FACT, WE WERE AGAINST IT UNANIMOUSLY.
ALL WE SAW WERE PLANS FOR PERCEIVED PARK.
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THESE ARE THE PLANS OF A PERCEIVED PARK.NOW WE HEAR IT'S GOING TO BE [INAUDIBLE] THE NICE THING IS THAT WHEN IT'S FINISHED THERE WILL BE VOTES, AND PEOPLE WILL BE UNELECTED, THAT PUSHED IT.
IF THERE'S ENOUGH INTEREST OUT THERE THAT SAYS "THIS WAS NOT WHAT WE WANTED." THAT'S ALL YOU CAN DO.
YOU CAN GO TO THE CITY COMMISSIONERS ALL YOU WANT, THE PLANNING BOARD, THE REST OF THEM, AND VOICE YOUR OPINION. THAT'S FINE.
BUT BOTTOM LINE IS IT'S PROBABLY GOING TO HAPPEN BECAUSE THERE ARE CERTAIN INTEREST GROUPS THAT WANT IT.
I'M NOT ONE OF THEM, BUT IT'S THE WAY IT IS.
PARKING, WE HAVE ALL OF US UNANIMOUSLY SAID THAT, HOW DO WE HAVE A MARINA WITH PEOPLE WHO ARE LIVING ON THEIR BOATS WITHOUT PARKING? HOW DO YOU HAVE PEOPLE WHO ARE RUNNING GUIDE BOATS WITHOUT PARKING? THE CITY SAYS THERE'S NOT A PARKING PROBLEM. THERE ISN'T.
THEIR COMMENT IS IT'S A WALKING PROBLEM.
THERE ARE PLENTY OF PARKING SPACES THAT ARE NOT DOWNTOWN.
IT'S A LITTLE HARD FOR ME TO GET FROM ONE OF THOSE PARKING SPOTS TO THIS MARINA.
>> IF YOU PUT [INAUDIBLE] DOWN THERE THAT THAT YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO PARK WAY AWAY FROM TO GET TO, ESPECIALLY THE OLDER FOLKS THAT PLAY PETANQUE.
THIS IS SOMETHING ELSE THAT PUZZLES ME.
FERNANDINA HAS ALWAYS BEEN THE WAY IT IS, LOOKS THE WAY IT DOES.
THAT WATERFRONT LOOKS THE WAY IT IS, AND PEOPLE LOVE IT.
THEY LOVE IT. THEY COME HERE BECAUSE THEY LOVE IT.
MY QUESTION IS, IF EVERYBODY LOVES IT SO MUCH, WHY IS THIS IDEA THAT WE'VE GOT TO HAVE A PARK DOWN THERE? WHO HAS BROUGHT THAT IDEA HERE? PEOPLE THAT DON'T LIVE HERE AND NOT FROM HERE? AS FAR AS I'M CONCERNED, GO BACK WHERE YOU CAME FROM.
>> I THINK WE'VE WORKED THIS THING INTO THE GROUND.
>> THERE'S GOT TO BE A WAY TO STOP IT.
THERE'S GOT TO BE A WAY TO STOP THAT FROM COMING UP.
THERE'S GOT TO BE. PEOPLE ARE SICK OF IT.
>> I THINK MR. ROSS WANTS THE FLOOR.
>> I ASKED HIM TO COME UP EARLIER. THANK YOU, MR. ROSS.
>> SURE. CHIP ROSS, 210 NORTH THIRD STREET.
FIRST OF ALL, SAVE YOUR TIME WITH THE BOAT RAMP.
I'M SURE WHOEVER YOU QUOTED KNOWS A LOT.
BUT I'VE HAPPENED TO READ THE DOCUMENTS, AND THAT WAS PAID FOR BY A BIGP GRANT.
THE TERMS OF THAT GRANT HAVE EXPIRED MANY YEARS AGO.
WHAT THEY'RE GOING TO DO WITH THE BOAT RAMP HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THAT PARK.
THAT WAS PART OF THE PASS ROW.
THEN KIMBERLY HORN DESIGN, TO FLOODPROOF THE DOWNTOWN.
THEY'RE DECREASING IT FROM THREE PLACES TO GO INTO THE WATER TO TWO.
THAT'S BEEN IN THE WORKS NOW FOR SEVERAL YEARS, AND BEEN TALKED ABOUT MULTIPLE TIMES.
THERE ARE DRAWINGS AS WE SPEAK.
THERE'S NOTHING NEW ABOUT THIS, IT'S GOT NOTHING TO DO WITH FUNDING, AND THAT'S WHAT THEY NEED TO DO FOR PLOT PROTECTION OF THE DOWNTOWN.
>> YES, SIR. MY BACKGROUND IS OCEANOGRAPHY METEOROLOGY.
>> YOU'RE BUILDING A SWIMMING POOL WITH YOUR RETAINING WALL. YOU DO KNOW THAT.
[OVERLAPPING] YOU'RE GOING TO KEEP THE WATER FROM COMING UP INTO THE CITY WHEN THE SURGE OCCURS.
YOU'RE NOT KEEPING THE WATER FROM COMING UP BEHIND THE WALL.
>> SIR, YOU DON'T NEED TO RAISE YOUR VOICE AT ME.
>> YOU DON'T NEED TO RAISE YOUR VOICE AT ME.
>> I DON'T KNOW THAT I AM, I HAVE HEARING AIDS.
I HAVE NO IDEA OF HOW LOW I'M TALKING.
>> THAT'S FINE. THE WALL IS TO PROTECT THE HISTORIC DOWNTOWN, WHICH WILL FLOOD IN A HURRICANE.
>> YES, SIR, I KNOW THAT. BUT MY POINT IS THIS, YOU'RE BUILDING A WALL ON AN ISLAND, AND THE WALL DOESN'T GO ALL THE WAY AROUND THE ISLAND.
YOU HAVE THE ESCAMBIA SLOUGH, WHICH IS OVER THE PORT.
THE WATER CAN COME UP IN THERE.
THE WATER WILL END UP IN FERNANDINA BEACH AND YOU WILL END UP WITH A WALL THAT HOLDS THE WATER UP UNTIL IT CAN GET BACK OUT THE ESCAMBIA SLOUGH INSTEAD OF FLOWING BACK INTO THE WATER.
I'VE LOOKED AT THE TOPOGRAPHY, I'VE SPENT HOURS WITH ENGINEERS, AND THAT'S NOT THEIR FEELING.
BUT I'M SURE THEY DON'T HAVE YOUR BACKGROUND,
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BUT THEY HAVE DESIGNED THIS AND WE'VE LOOKED THROUGH THIS.>> I ALWAYS TELL PEOPLE THIS, TIME WILL TELL.
>> THAT'S RIGHT. IF IT PROVES THAT YOU'RE RIGHT, I WILL APOLOGIZE IMMENSELY, BUT IF IT TURNS OUT THAT THE CITY FLOODS.
>> THERE'S NO DOUBT THAT THE CITY WILL FLOOD.
IT'S NOT IF, IT'S WHEN AND IT'S HOW MUCH.
>> IF THERE IS A GRADE 4 HURRICANE THAT COMES THROUGH WITH A 30 FOOT SUBSTART, YOU'RE RIGHT, NO WALL WILL PROTECT IT.
THIS IS TO PROTECT AGAINST TIDAL FLOODING AND A STORM THAT'S COMPARABLE WITH DORA, IF IT CAME THROUGH.
>> BUT DON'T FORGET, IF YOU HAVE A 30 FOOT FLOW, LET'S SAY YOU HAD A SURGE, WHICH 30 FOOT IS AN IMMENSE SURGE.
>> THE WHOLE ISLAND'S UNDERWATER.
>> HOWEVER, THE HURRICANE OF 1898, WHICH HAD FOUR FEET OF WATER IN DOWNTOWN FERNANDINA IS NOTHING COMPARED TO WHAT IT WOULD BE IF THAT SAME HURRICANE OCCURRED AGAIN BECAUSE OF ALL THE DREDGING THAT HAS OCCURRED IN THE BACKWATERS.
THAT SURGE WILL COME BACK THROUGH THERE.
WHEN THAT GOES OVER THE WALL, THEN HOW DOES THE WATER GET OUT? NOW, THIS IS ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE WALL SIDE OF THE WALL.
>> IT'S DESIGNED TO LET THE WATER BACK OUT.
>> YOU'VE GOT SLUICES WHERE THE WATER WILL BE.
>> I DON'T WANT TO TALK ABOUT THE DESIGN.
IF YOU WANT TO GO LOOK AT THE DESIGN, I'D BE HAPPY TO TALK WITH YOU.
>> NUMBER 2, WE KEEP TALKING ABOUT BUILDING PATON COURTS.
THE LAST TIME I LOOKED, THEY'VE BEEN BUILT THERE FOR 10 YEARS AND THE COST OF "BUILDING" THEM IS ZERO.
THERE'S NO COST. IF SOMETHING ELSE WANTS TO BE REPLACED THERE, THAT'S FINE.
WE KEEP TALKING ABOUT THEY WON'T BE USED FOR ANYTHING ELSE.
WELL, THEY'RE DESIGNED TO BE MULTI-USE, SO THAT THEY WANT TO STOP CLOSING DOWNTOWN STREETS AND CLOSING OFF STREETS, SO MERCHANTS CAN STAY OPEN AND PUT EVENTS DOWN THERE.
IT'S AN EVENT SPACE. IT'S AN EVENT SPACE, IT'S PETANQUE, IT'S OTHER THINGS. THAT'S NUMBER 1.
THE COST, IT'S JUST SAND AND TIMBERS AND THEY'RE ALREADY THERE.
IT'S ALREADY BUILT AND IT'S BEEN USED.
I DID SAY 50 OR 60 PEOPLE, BUT I'LL BE ALSO GOING AHEAD.
IT'S A SMALL MANIAD OF PEOPLE THAT HAVE BOATS AND THAT USE THE BOAT RAMP, SO WE'RE SUBSIDIZING ANOTHER SUBSIDIZE.
TO SAY THAT THIS HASN'T BEEN VETTED BY OTHER THINGS, THIS PROJECT HAS BEEN AROUND FOR 20 YEARS.
>> NOT IN THE FORM OF A [INAUDIBLE]
>> I'M NOT FINISHED. IT'S BEEN AROUND FOR 20 YEARS AND IT WASN'T NEWCOMERS COMING IN.
THIS IS PEOPLE THAT LIVE HERE THAT HAVE BROUGHT THIS UP.
IT'S NOT THE PEOPLE FROM WHEREVER ELSE THEY ARE, IT'S PEOPLE THAT LIVE HERE CURRENTLY.
I CAN GIVE YOU PILES OF PAPER.
>> DOESN'T THE FACT THAT IT'S BEEN HERE 20 YEARS AND NOT BEEN BUILT IMPLY SOMETHING?
>> SURE, IT IMPLIES THAT NOBODY EVER GOT AROUND TO AGREEING ON WHAT SHOULD BE BUILT.
>> IT IMPLIES THAT EVERY TIME IT'S BROUGHT UP, MOST OF THE PEOPLE IN THE CITY DON'T WANT IT.
>> WELL, I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU DO THAT BECAUSE HAVE YOU COME TO ANY OF THE CRA MEETINGS? NO.
>> NO, YOU HAVEN'T. DON'T TELL ME THAT.
YOU HAVEN'T BEEN THERE BECAUSE I GO TO EVERY ONE AND I HAVEN'T SEEN YOU THERE IN MONTHS, IF I'VE SEEN YOU THERE AT ALL.
>> IN MONTHS, YES, BUT I'VE BEEN THERE.
>> WELL, IN THE LAST TWO YEARS HAVE YOU BEEN THERE?
>> YEAH, MAYBE. FINE. THIS HAS BEEN VETTED THERE.
DID YOU GO TO THE PARKS AND REC COMMITTEE MEETING WHERE IT WAS VETTED THERE?
>> EVERYBODY IN THAT ROOM THOUGHT THIS WAS A GREAT IDEA.
WHEN YOU SAY THE PEOPLE ARE AGAINST IT, THERE'S BEEN FOUR PEOPLE, 4, 1, 2, 3, 4, WHO SENT ME EMAILS SAYING THAT WE SHOULDN'T BE DOING THIS AND TWO OF THEM ARE SITTING IN THIS ROOM.
THERE HAVE BEEN MANY PEOPLE WHO HAVE COME UP TO ME AND SAID, THIS IS A GREAT THING.
THERE'S A DIFFERENCE OF OPINION, I GET THAT. IT'S FINE.
NUMBER 3, REMEMBER THAT GROUND NOW IS PARK GROUND.
THE ZONING WAS CHANGED WITHOUT ANY OPPOSITION FROM ANYBODY TO PARKS AND RECREATION GROUND, SO IT WILL NOT BE USED FOR ANY COMMERCIAL PURPOSE.
>> IT'S BEING USED FOR COMMERCIAL PURPOSES WITH THE NEW FISH HOUSE IS GOING BACK IN, CORRECT?
>> THAT'S NOT IN THE PART THAT WAS ZONED RECREATION.
>> THAT PART OF THE LAND, THAT'S THE DIRT [OVERLAPPING]
>> IF YOU LOOK AT WHAT WAS ZONED COMMERCIAL, IT STOPS JUST SOUTH OF THE INDUSTRIAL WATERFRONT, CONTINUES JUST SOUTH OF WHERE ATLANTIC SEAFOOD WOULD BE PLANNED, THE NEW BUILDING WOULD BE.
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>> WHO GETS THE REVENUE THEN FROM ATLANTIC SEAFOOD?
>> CURRENTLY, WHO GETS THE REVENUE? THE MARINES.
>> THERE'S NOT ONE THERE, BUT I MEAN, WHEN IT'S BUILT. WHO IS GOING TO GET THE REVENUE?
>> THEY DO GENERATE SOME REVENUE. IT GOES TO THE MARINA.
>> WHAT ABOUT PARKING FOR THE BOAT, THE PEOPLE WHO ARE LAUNCHING BOATS AND STUFF?
>> THERE'S ONE MORE PARKING SPACE THAN THERE WAS BEFORE.
THERE'S 9 OR 10 PARKING SPACES FOR BOATS. IT'S ALREADY BUILT.
I'D LOVE TO TALK ABOUT PARKING.
I'M THE ONLY PERSON, I THINK IN THIS ROOM, AND MAYBE IN THIS CITY, WHO WALKED EVERY SINGLE STREET AND COUNTED EVERY PARKING SPACES.
THERE'S 1,850 PARKING SPACES WITHIN CENTER STREET AND FRONT STREET, 1,850.
THE PROBLEM IS, AT CERTAIN TIMES, YOU CAN'T PARK IN FRONT OF EXACTLY WHERE YOU WANT TO BE, BUT YOU CAN PARK WITHIN A BLOCK OR TWO.
I'LL GO BACK THERE ARE 1,850 PARKING SPACES.
>> WITHIN WHAT DISTANCE? WITHIN THE CITY LIMITS?
>> NO, WALKING, WITHIN FIVE BLOCKS OF DOWNTOWN THERE.
I WALKED ALL THOSE BLOCKS AND COUNTED THE PARKING SPACE.
>> HOW FAR FROM CENTER STREET DID YOU GO?
>> I WENT FROM CENTER STREET TO DADE, AND CENTER STREET TO DAYTON, AND OUT TO 8TH STREET.
WITHIN THAT AREA, CENTER STREET TO DADE, AND THEN DAYTON DADE ON EITHER SIDE, THERE'S 1,853 PARKING SPACES.
>> GOING NORTH. YOU WENT FROM CENTER STREET GOING NORTH HOW FAR?
>> NO, I SAID TO DATE AND TO DADE.
>> EIGHTEEN-HUNDRED-AND FIFTY-THREE, IT'S A BARRIER ISLAND.
IT IS WHAT IT IS, AND WHEN YOU SAY PARKING NEUTRAL, I DON'T THINK THAT'S DISINGENUOUS AT ALL.
THERE IS MORE THINGS THAT ARE GOING TO SHOW UP HERE AND SOME OF THEM NEED MORE PARKING.
THE PARKING WILL COME AND THE PARKING WILL GO, BUT IT'S EPISODIC.
IF YOU GO THERE AT 08:00 IN THE MORNING, IT'S NOT A PARKING PROBLEM.
IF YOU GO AT 08:00 ON A FRIDAY NIGHT, PROBABLY YOU CAN'T PARK IN FRONT OF WHERE YOU WANT TO PARK.
I LIVE THREE BLOCKS OFF CENTER STREET, THREE BLOCKS, AND YOU KNOW HOW MANY PEOPLE PARK IN FRONT OF MY HOUSE FOR EVENTS OR ANYTHING ELSE? THREE DAYS A YEAR, THAT'S IT.
THERE'S ALWAYS A PLACE TO PARK.
IF YOU HAVE TROUBLE PARKING, JUST COME IN FRONT OF MY HOUSE, NO PROBLEM.
THERE'S A NICE PARKING SPACE THERE.
>> BUT MOST PEOPLE, IF THEY'RE IN THE MARINA, ARE GOING TO BE CARRYING SOMETHING [OVERLAPPING]
>> THEY CAN CERTAINLY DROP IT OFF AND GO PARK THE CAR.
>> THEY HAVE TO BE ABLE TO DROP ALL THEIR STUFF.
>> THERE ARE DEDICATED SPOTS TO DO THAT, CORRECT?
>> YEAH. I DON'T HAVE ANY PROBLEM WITH THAT. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS?
>> WHAT STAGE IS THE PARK PLANNING? HOW FAR ALONG IS IT?
>> PARK PLANNING THERE'S A CONCEPT PLAN ABOUT TO HIRE A COMPANY TO DO THE ENGINEERING DRAWINGS.
>> ANY CHANCE OF PUTTING IT TO A VOTE?
>> SURE. YOU GOT $20,000 YOU WANT TO SPEND?
>> HOW MANY SIGNATURES DO WE NEED?
>> IT'S SOMETHING MORE THAN THAT.
>> IF ANYBODY'S INTERESTED IN A REFERENDUM ON THIS PART, THEN THEY NEED TO GET THE PETITION TOGETHER TO PUT IT ON SOME VOTE. THAT SHOULDN'T BE A PROBLEM.
>> THAT SHOULD BASICALLY CLOSE THE ISSUE.
>> FIFTEEN PERCENT OF THE REGISTERED VOTERS.
>> IS WHAT YOU NEED FOR A REFERENDUM.
>> DO YOU WANT TO HAVE A VOTE? THAT'S FINE.
BUT REMEMBER, THIS IS BEING PAID WITH IMPACT FEE FUNDS.
IT'S TAXPAYERS DOLLARS HAVE ALREADY BEEN PAID.
IT IS $4.2 MILLION SITTING IN THE PARKS AND REC IMPACT FEE FUND.
>> THERE'S A LOT OF ILL WILL ABOUT THE PARK IMPACT FEES TOO.
>> IS TDC HAVING ANYTHING TO DO ANY OF THAT, NO?
>> NOR SHOULD THERE BE. THE MONEY PAYING FOR THIS COMES OUT OF IMPACT FEE FUNDS FOR PARKS.
THERE ARE MANY, MANY PEOPLE WHO WANT TO PARK DOWN THERE AND THERE ARE PEOPLE THAT DON'T WANT TO PARK DOWN THERE.
I GET ALL THAT, BUT THEY'RE COMPETING VIEWPOINTS.
I'VE BEEN LOOKING AT THIS NOW FOR SIX YEARS THAT I'VE BEEN IN OFFICE AND THE VAST MAJORITY OF PEOPLE WANT TO PARK THERE.
>> SIR, IF PEOPLE ARE THAT INTERESTED IN YES OR NO ON THE PARK, THEN THE REFERENDUM IS THE ISSUE?
>> IF YOU WANT TO PUT TOGETHER KNOCK YOUR SOCKS OFF.
>> MR. ROSS, WITH ALL DUE RESPECT ABOUT A PARK, I THINK THERE'S A DIFFERENT OPINIONS ABOUT WHAT A PARK CONSISTS OF.
LIKE I SAID BEFORE, FERNANDINA BEACH LOOKS THE WAY IT DOES.
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IT'S A RUSTIC AREA.I COULD SEE SOME TREES GOING IN AND IF THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE GOING TO CALL IT.
>> I'M GOING TO DISAGREE WITH YOU BECAUSE THERE'S A THING CALLED THE CRA PLAN.
HAVE YOU EVER READ THE CRA PLAN? IT TALKS ABOUT THE BLIGHT DOWN THERE.
THIS IS ALL WRITTEN BY PEOPLE 20 YEARS AGO AND THEY SHOW THE PICTURES AND THEY LOOK STILL THE SAME.
A LOT OF THOSE PICTURES, WHAT THEY SAID, THERE'S BLIGHT, THERE'S WATERFRONT THERE, IT'S A PROBLEM, WE NEED TO FIX IT, SO WE GO AND FIX IT.
THAT'S WHAT THE CRA COMMITTEE DID.
THEY WENT AND FIXED. THEY DID EXACTLY WHAT IT SAID TO DO.
THOSE PEOPLE DIDN'T MOVE HERE.
THEY ALL LIVED HERE AND THEY ALL FROM 20 YEARS AGO THAT WAS WRITTEN.
>> [OVERLAPPING] THERE'S THERE'S A LOT OF WEAKNESS ON THE INFRASTRUCTURE ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THAT RAILROAD TRACTOR.
>> I KNOW THERE'S WATER, SEWAGE.
>> IT'S IN THE CRA PLAN THAT THAT IS A DEFICIT IN THAT AREA.
>> GOOD. MOST OF THAT HAS BEEN FIXED.
>> WHAT'S ABOUT TO HAPPEN UNDER THE AREA.
>> ESPECIALLY UP TO THE NORMAL.
>> ALL UNDER THE ELECTRICAL LINES ARE ABOUT TO GO UNDERGROUND.
>> ARE YOU ALL GOING AS THE CITY COMMISSION GOING TO ALLOW ATLANTIC SEAFOOD TO BUILD THAT BIG BUILDING OR THEY ALL GOING TO MAKE THEM SCALE IT BACK?
>> I THINK IT'S ALREADY BEEN VOTED ON TO A CONCLUSION THAT THAT WASN'T GOOD FOR A CONCEPT DRAWING.
IT'S GOING TO THE TRC AND IT WENT TO THE HDC.
THE HDC APPROVED IT, AND SO I THINK THAT'S WHAT IT IS.
I'M JUST CURIOUS, WHY IS IT TOO BIG?
>> BECAUSE THAT DOESN'T EVEN FIT OUR SMALL TOWN ATMOSPHERE THAT WE HAVE.
LET'S TAKE A LOOK AT SALT LIFE DOWN HERE AT THE BEACH.
SALT LIFE TOOK UP A LOT OF PARKING.
PEOPLE DON'T PARK BEHIND THE BUILDING BUT THEY TAKE UP WHEN IT'S BUSY SEASON, OR IT DOESN'T MATTER IF IT'S BUSY SEASON OR NOT.
LET'S SAY YEAR ROUND, PEOPLE ARE TAKEN UP IN PARKING SPACES AND THERE'S NO PLACE FOR PEOPLE TO PARK AND GO OUT THERE TO THE BEACH.
WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT PAID PARKING, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT A BUILDING.
I WISH THAT I WOULD HAVE BEEN INVOLVED BACK THEN LIKE I AM NOW, AND I'M NOT SAYING THAT I'VE NEVER CARED.
BUT IF I HAD ANYTHING TO DO WITH IT BACK THEN, I HATE MYSELF BECAUSE I DIDN'T COME IN VOICE KNOWING THAT THAT BUILDING WAS GOING THERE.
THE CITY SHOULD HAVE BOUGHT IT FOR PARKING.
[OVERLAPPING] THE GROUND MORE TIMES THAN SHOULD BE, [OVERLAPPING] AND TIED UP A LOT OF TIME SHOULD BE USED ELSEWHERE.
[6. OLD BUSINESS]
I'VE GOT A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS HERE.>> EL HAVE ANYTHING ELSE TO SAY?
>> [OVERLAPPING] DO YOU WANT TO HAVE ANYTHING MORE TO SAY?
>> I WOULD JUST SAY I'D LIKE TO SAY THAT IN RESPONSE TO THE 1,853 PARKING SPACES THAT ARE DOWN HERE, THEY'RE PROBABLY ARE RIGHT.
THERE'S PEOPLE THAT LIVE DOWN HERE AND USE THOSE SPOTS.
THEY'RE TAKING UP PART OF IT AND I THINK YOU'RE RIGHT ON POINT ABOUT THE REASON THAT THIS PARK HASN'T BEEN APPROVED IN 20 YEARS.
THAT THIS HAS GONE AROUND AND AROUND AROUND FOR 20 YEARS.
THE LAST TIME THAT HAPPENED WAS IN AUGUST OF 2021 AND THERE WAS ENOUGH NOTICE OUT THERE WHERE A LOT OF THE COMMUNITY CAME OUT AND SPOKE UP AGAINST IT.
EVEN MAYOR LEDOVICH, YOU KNOW WHAT? HE ACTUALLY SAID THAT AT THAT TIME, HE SAID, "MAYBE THIS HASN'T GONE ANYWHERE BECAUSE PEOPLE DON'T WANT IT." THERE MAY BE A STACK OF PAPERS FROM PEOPLE THAT ARE INVOLVED IN THE PARKS AND RECREATION THAT HAVE WANTED IT, BUT IT DOESN'T REPRESENT THE WILL OF THIS COMMUNITY.
IF YOU ASK THEM IF THEY WANT MORE PARKS, EVERYBODY SAYS YES. SURE, WE DON'T WANT PARKS.
WELL, DO YOU WANT TO TAKE UP PARKING SPACES DOWNTOWN AND ADD TO OUR PARKING ISSUE DOWNTOWN? DO YOU WANT TO PAY? HE'S RIGHT.
IT'S GOING TO GET PAID FOR BY THIS FUND, THIS $4.2 MILLION FUND, THAT'S GOING TO PAY FOR THE PARK.
WHO'S GOING TO PAY TO MAINTAIN IT?
>> THE BOTTOM LINE AND THEN WE'LL SHUT THIS WHOLE DISCUSSION DOWN.
WHEN SOMEBODY SAYS, I'M NOT PAYING FOR IT, IT'S ALL OUR [OVERLAPPING]
>> THE GOVERNMENT DOESN'T PRODUCE ANYTHING EXCEPT EXPENSE.
>>> IT'S BEEN BANNED ABOUT FOR 20 YEARS BECAUSE PEOPLE, WHEN IT COMES TO THE END OF THE DAY, THEY DON'T WANT IT.
THAT'S WHY IF IT HAD OVERWHELMING PUBLIC SUPPORT, WE'D HAVE ONE DOWN THERE RIGHT NOW, WE DON'T.
>> WELL, THANK YOU FOR BEING [OVERLAPPING].
OKAY. AS I SAID, I'VE GOT SOME OLD BUSINESS THAT I WOULD LIKE TO DISCUSS WITH YOU.
BUT I WANT TO BECAUSE IT ALL INVOLVES A WASS IN THE MANAGEMENT THERE.
BUT I WANT TO HEAR YOUR MANAGEMENT REPORT FIRST BECAUSE YOU'LL PROBABLY ANSWER MOST OF THEM.
>> DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY NEW BUSINESS?
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ANY NEW BUSINESS, MA'AM?>> OKAY. THAT'S WHAT I WAS GOING TO BRING UP.
>> ANY NEW BUSINESS? NO. OKAY. NOW, WE'LL GO ON TO THE MARINE MANAGER'S REPORT.
[8. MARINA MANAGER REPORT]
>> THANK YOU, JOE. I JUST HAVE A COUPLE OF QUICK NOTES.
THE DREDGING, OF COURSE, IS OUR PROJECT THAT WE'RE WORKING ON THAT HAS BEEN JUST TO ABOUT MID FEBRUARY, WHICH IS STILL A GOOD TIME TO START.
YOU RECALL LAST TIME WE DREDGED IT WAS IN MARCH OF 2022.
WE WERE NOT SO BUSY THAT WE COULDN'T HANDLE THAT THAT OCCURRED WITHOUT ANY INCIDENT SO WE'RE LOOKING AT MID FEBRUARY [OVERLAPPING] TO START THE PROJECT.
WE'VE BEEN IN TOUCH WITH RANKS DIVERSIFIED TO GET THOSE DETAILS WORKED OUT WITH THE CONTRACT AND THE BOND.
FOR SURE, FESTIVAL COMING UP ON THE FEBRUARY 6TH MEETING, THE COMMISSION WILL VOTE WHETHER TO WAIVE THE DOCKAGE FEES FOR THE TWO SHRIMP BOATS THAT WE HAVE BOOKED.
WE'VE GOT THE CAPTAIN MAMA AND ASHLEY MICHELLE BOOK FOR SHMESTIVAL.
THAT'S GOING TO BE APPROXIMATELY OF ABOUT $1,500 THAT I IMAGINE WE'LL WAIVE THE FEE ON, BUT THAT GOES BEFORE THE COMMISSION ON THE 6TH.
THE OASIS AND BERNADINA IS SPONSORING THE BEST DECORATED SHRIMP CONTEST THIS YEAR.
WE ARE THE MAJOR SPONSOR THIS YEAR FOR THE CONTEST.
WE ADDED THREE MORE CAMERAS TO THE PROPERTY.
WE HAVE A TOTAL OF NINE CAMERAS NOW, THE CAMERAS THAT WE DID ADD WERE STRATEGICALLY PUT AT THE END OF [INAUDIBLE] AND THE VERY END OF THE DINGHY DOCK POINTING NORTH.
NOW, WE HAVE COVERAGE DOWN ON THAT FAR SOUTHERN END OF THE MARINA.
WE ALSO INSTALLED A CAMERA THAT FACES THE RESTROOM DOORS.
AS YOU RECALL, WE HAD SOME JUST BREAK INS AND FOLKS GETTING IN AT NIGHT INTO THOSE DOORS.
THE DOORS, WE HAVE NEW DOORS ORDERED.
THEY SHOULD BE HERE NEXT WEEK.
THEN THE CITY WILL INSTALL NEW DOORS TO THAT FREEZEWAY THAT SHOULD TAKE TALK [OVERLAPPING]
>> YEAH, THE STAINLESS STEEL DOORS.
THOSE WILL GO IN AND THAT SHOULD TAKE CARE OF THAT PROBLEM.
YOU MENTIONED A PREVIOUS MARINA ADVISORY BOARD COMMENTS.
I HAVE A NOTE HERE THAT YOU HAD PREVIOUSLY ASKED ABOUT THE USE OF OASIS MARINAS AT BERNENTINA HARBOR.
I DID SPEAK WITH TAMMY BACH AND SHE SAYS THAT THAT IS ALLOWED.
SHE DID REVIEW THE CONTRACT, AND SHE SAID THAT THAT WORDING IS ALLOWED.
>> THAT WAS YOUR QUESTION ABOUT THE NAMING.
>> OASIS MARINAS AT FERNANDINA HARBOR.
>> AT OASIS MARINA AT FERNANDINA HARBOR?
>> THE FIRST OF THE YEAR, ALREADY CONTRACTS WERE SENT OUT.
WE RENEW CONTRACTS ANNUALLY IN JANUARY.
THOSE WENT OUT TO ALL OUR VOTERS, AND THAT INCLUDED THE NEW COMMERCIAL OPERATOR CONTRACT THAT WAS REVIEWED AND APPROVED BY TAMMY BACH BEFORE IT WENT OUT.
THE FUEL PROJECT, WE ARE HAPPY TO SAY THAT WE HAD TO HAVE A SPECIAL SUMP FILLED THAT HAD TO BE UL-LISTED AND IT HAD TO GET AN EQ NUMBER OR AN EQUIPMENT NUMBER FROM THE DO.DEP.
THE STUMP WILL SHIP TOMORROW FROM PENCO, WHICH IS DOWN IN SOUTH FLORIDA, SO WE ANTICIPATE THAT GUARDIAN COULD HAVE THAT STUMP BY THE END OF THE WEEK.
THEY'RE GETTING WITH THEIR SCHEDULING COMMITTEE TO SEE HOW SOON THEY CAN SCHEDULE TO COME TO FERNANDINA.
THAT WAS THE LAST PIECE OF EQUIPMENT THAT THEY WERE WAITING ON.
>> WE'LL GIVE US FUEL AS SOON AS THEY INSTALL IT.
>> CORRECT. IT'LL GIVE US FUEL AS SOON AS THEY INSTALL IT.
>> WE'VE HAD DIESEL ALL ALONG OF COURSE, BUT WE'LL HAVE THAT UNLOADED BACK, SO THAT'S GOOD NEWS.
THAT'S PRETTY MUCH EVERYTHING.
>> HOW'S THE A BOARDWALKS, HAS IT BEEN REPAIRED?
>> YEAH. THE BOARDWALK WAS REPAIRED LAST MONTH.
>> ALL FUNCTIONAL. LOOKS GREAT.
WE HAVE A SHORT CUT BACK TO THE RIVER CREWS, BOATS.
WE DON'T HAVE TO WALK ALL THE WAY AROUND.
WE DO HAVE THE GATES PROJECT, I SHOULD MENTION, WHICH IS ONGOING THAT'S BEING FINALIZED.
THERE WAS A CONSIDERATION FOR LOCKS AND LOCKING MECHANISMS, AND SO OF COURSE, THOSE GATES WILL GO IN AND THEY WILL PROTECT OR GATE OFF THE ATTENUATOR, THE SHIPS AND THE SHIP STORE.
>> NOW, ARE YOUR CAMERAS LOOKING AT EACH OTHER IN OTHER WORDS?
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>> WELL, WE HAVE NINE ALTOGETHER.
SO WE HAVE CAMERAS THAT FACE THE FIELD, CAMERAS THAT FACE BREATH.
>> BUT WHAT I'M SAYING IS JUST ONE CAMERA COVER OF THE OTHER CAMERA.
IN OTHER WORDS, IF SOMEBODY RIPS THE CAMERA DOWN,.
>> OH, WE HAVEN'T GOTTEN THAT FAR.
ONE THING YOU ALWAYS LEARN ABOUT CAMERAS.
>> I ALWAYS MAKE SURE YOU HAVE ONE LOOKING AT THE OTHER ONE.
>> INTERESTING. THAT PROJECT SHOULD BE.
>> HOW ABOUT THE PROTECTIVE ON THE PEDESTALS? ELECTRICAL PEDESTALS.
YOU WERE GOING TO PUT SOME PROTECTIVE CONDITIONS AROUND THE ELECTRICAL PEDESTALS.
>> I MET WITH CHARLIE LAST WEEK AND HE SHOWED ME A MOCK UP CONCEPT THAT HE HAS FOR, IT'S A BALLARD OF SORTS THAT WOULD BE, ALTHOUGH IT'S FLAT SO IT DOESN'T PROTRUDE OUT PAST REALLY THE BULKHEAD OF THE DOCK.
THAT WAS REALLY MY MAIN CONCERN.
SO HE'S GOING TO WORK THAT UP AND PROVE THAT OUT FURTHER.
>> ANY IDEA ON ITS COMPLETION?
>> NO. I'M SURE WE'LL DO PROTOTYPES FIRST AROUND ONE PEDESTAL, I WOULD IMAGINE TO SEE HOW IT FUNCTIONS IN REAL LIFE, THAT IT DOESN'T COOK REALLY.
>> ALSO, WHAT'S THE STATUS ON THE RESTROOM REMODELING?
>> THE RESTROOM REMODELING IS I SPOKE WITH JEREMIAH LAST WEEK AS WELL, AND THEY ARE PUTTING A PRODUCT IN THE RESTROOMS DOWN AT THE BEACH.
I FORGET WHAT IT'S CALLED, SHARK COATING OF SOME TYPE, AND IT CAN GO IN OVER THE EXISTING TILE AND CREATE A WATERPROOF BARRIER.
THAT'S WHAT THEY'RE GOING TO INSTALL THERE.
WE ARE STARTING TO CONSIDER IF THAT'S AN OPTION FOR THE MARINA.
THAT WOULD SAVE US A LOT OF MONEY.
WE COULD USE THE EXISTING TILE AND GET A FRESH SANITARY FACE LIFT.
>> QUESTION. AT THE LAST MEETING, MR. GEORGE SAID HE WAS GOING TO GIVE YOU A SUMMARY OF EVERYTHING WE'VE DISCUSSED ON THE FEDERAL CHANNEL AND EVERYTHING.
HE WAS GOING TO GIVE THAT TO YOU.
>> I DON'T HAVE A SUMMARY FOR THAT.
>> BECAUSE WHEN HE DOES, WE'D LET COPIES OF IT.
>> THAT WAS A SUMMARY OF THIS.
>> ALL THE ACTION HAS BEEN TAKEN ON THE FEDERAL CHANNEL.
REMEMBER ALL THE THINGS WE DISCUSSED AT THE LAST MEETING, IF YOU LOOK AT THE MINUTES, IT SAID THAT HE WAS GOING TO PROVIDE YOU A SUMMARY OF ALL THE MATERIAL THAT WAS DISCUSSED AT THE MEETING.
WHEN HE DOES, IF YOU WOULD PLEASE.
>> THANK YOU. ANY QUESTIONS FOR YOU?
>> YES, I DO. WHO'S WORKING ON THE FIVE YEAR PLAN? THE MASTER PLAN?
>> CHARLIE AND I ARE WORKING ON THAT TOGETHER.
>> HE WAS OUT WE WERE GOING TO HAVE A MEETING TWO WEEKS AGO, AND SO THAT'S BEEN PUSHED OUT FURTHER, BUT WE ARE ON THE BOOKS WITH EACH OTHER HERE IN THE NEXT WEEK OR SO. OKAY.
>> YOU'RE WELCOME. NO QUESTIONS.
[9. BOARD MEMBER REPORTS/COMMENTS]
>> DO WE GET INPUT ON IT OR DO WE GET TO LOOK AT IT OR HOW WILL THAT? I KNOW IT'S ADVISORY BOARD BUT STILL.
>> I MIGHT DEFER TO MR. ROSS ON THAT.
MY UNDERSTANDING IS I'M NEW TO THE BUDGET PROCESS, BUT I BELIEVE THAT THE FIVE YEAR PLANS ARE A PART OF THE BUDGET REVIEW PROCESS.
DON'T WE ADD THE FIVE YEAR PLAN IN WITH BUDGET?
>> IT'S A CAPITAL APPROVE IT'S NOT A FIVE YEAR PLAN.
WHAT DO YOU MEAN BY A MASTER PLAN?
>> IT'S IN THE NOTES FROM NOVEMBER'S MEETING.
FIVE YEAR MASTER PLAN IS BEING WORKED ON.
YEAH. I UNDERSTAND. SO THAT'S ALL IT SAYS.
>> IT'S IN THE NOTES. I'M JUST READING THE NOTES.
>> OH, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE MASTER PLAN IS.
I THINK IT'S THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLUS CAPITAL FIVE YEAR YEAH. CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN.
THAT'S NOT MASTER I DON'T KNOW OF ANYBODY DOING A MASTER PLAN.
>> THEY SAID LAST MEETING THEY'RE GOING TO DEVELOP A FIVE YEAR MASTER PLAN.
I THINK WHAT IT REALLY MEANT WAS GOING TO DO FIVE YEAR CAPITAL BUDGET.
I AGREE, I THINK THE WORDING MIGHT BE CONFUSED.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? COMMENTS?
>> I DO. I HAVE COMMENT. I HAVE A SUGGESTION.
WE WE'RE LOOKING FOR MARINA ADVISORY BOARD MEMBERS AND I THOUGHT MAYBE ONE WAY TO ADVERTISE IT.
I KNOW WE'RE ALL TALKING TO DIFFERENT PEOPLE AS WE GO OUT, BUT I'M WONDERING IF THERE'S A WAY, LIKE AT THE TOP, AS A HEADER ABOVE OUR MEETING MINUTES OR ANY OF THE NOTICES THAT GO OUT REGARDING THE MEETINGS THAT WE'VE PUT SOME TYPE OF HEADER SAYING, MARINA ADVISORY BOARD VACANCIES, PLEASE SEE CITY CLERK IF YOU'RE IF INTERESTED.
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SOMETHING SIMPLE LIKE THAT TO LET PEOPLE KNOW BECAUSE THE ONLY WAY TO REALLY FIND OUT IS WELL, YOU GOT TO TAKE THE EFFORT TO GO TO LOOK ON THE WEBSITE.FOR ONE, TO SEARCH, TO SEE WHAT'S VACANT, AND THEY'RE ALL LISTED THERE OR ATTEND CITY COMMISSION MEETING.
BUT I JUST THINK IF WE COULD DO THAT, THAT'S JUST ANOTHER WAY OF EXPOSURE TO GET PEOPLE GLANCE ACROSS TO I KNOW THESE GUYS PROBABLY LOOK AT OUR AGENDA TO THE CAPTAINS DOWN THERE, AND THEY SEE WHAT'S GOING ON AND MAYBE THEY HAVE AN INTEREST TO PARTICIPATE.
>> I'M NOW IN CHARGE HERE. I DO KEEP VOTING, BUT I'M NOT A CHARGE, BUT I AM INTERESTED.
I WILL TALK TO YOU GUYS ABOUT IT.
>> ALL YOU HAVE TO DO IS FILL OUT THE APPLICATION AND TURN IT IN, AND DO IT QUICKLY SO THEY CAN GET ON THE AGENDA FOR THE NEXT.
SO THEY CAN APPLY THAT TO THE CITY CLERK'S OFFICE.
>> SURE. THEN AND EVEN MAYBE EVEN THE EMAILS THAT GO OUT WITH THE REPORTS HAVE A LINE ITEM IN THERE SAYING, WE DO HAVE WE'RE STILL TRYING TO FILL THESE VACANCIES.
I KNOW THEY GO TO US THAT WE'RE ON THERE, BUT MAYBE SOMEBODY ELSE WOULD SEE IT.
I DON'T KNOW IF WE CAN DO THAT.
>> HOW MANY VACANCIES DO WE HAVE? JUST TWO TO TWO VOTING MEMBERS? YES? YES.
OKAY. MR. SHARPE GETS YOU SOME PEOPLE IN MORE THAT'S ALL I HAVE.
THIS BOARD HAS MADE A LOT OF RECOMMENDATIONS FOR ITS EXISTENCE.
VERY FEW OF THEM HAVE EVER BEEN ACTED ON BY THE CITY.
WE'RE KIND OF USED TO IT, BUT JUST THE WAY IT WORKS.
BUT THE BEST THING IS AT LEAST WE HAVE A VOICE AND THAT'S WHY WE'RE HERE.
OUR NEXT MEETING WILL BE MARCH 25.
[10. NEXT MEETING DATE ]
I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO ADJOURN.>> I DON'T THINK YOU NEED A SECOND, BUT I'LL SECOND IN FAVOR.
>> WE'LL ADJOURN. THANK YOU, MIKE. COME ON.
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