[1. CALL TO ORDER]
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THANK YOU. >> GOOD EVENING, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN I'M CALLING THIS MEETING OF -- IT IS A MEETING, A MEETING OF THE COMMUNITY REDEVELOPMENT AGENT THE. AS ALWAYS, WE START WITH ROLE. PLEASE GO AHEAD.
>> HERE. COMMISSIONER ROSS? >> PLEASE RISE FOR THE PLEDGE
OF ALLEGIANCE. >> I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE WITH
LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. >> TONIGHT, WE HAVE ONE BIG
[4.1 COMMUNITY REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY ADVISORY BOARD (CRAAB) - LOTS C AND D OPEN SPACE RECOMMENDATIONS]
AGENDA, THAT IS TAKING A LOOK AT A PROPOSAL FOR JAKE THE C&D OPEN SPACE, RECOMMENDATIONS FROM OUR COMMUNITY REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY ADVISORY BOARD AS WE LIKE TO CALL THEM, WE SEND THIS PROPOSAL TONIGHT, WE WILL BE ACCEPTING PUBLIC COMMENT, THIS IS A MEETING FOR THAT REASON, WE WILL HEAR ANY PUBLIC COMMENT ON THE ITEMS, THE WAY IT WILL WORK, THAT IS THE PRESENTATION, WE HAVE MISS LISA WITH US TONIGHT PRESENTING THE PLAN, THEN WE HAD THE DISCUSSION THEN THE DISCUSSION I THINK BEFORE WE HAVE WE HAVE PUBLIC COMMENT AFTER THE PLAN WHEN WE FINISH ASKING QUESTIONS, THEN WE WILL HAVE SUMP COMMISSIONER DISCUSSION TONIGHT. WITH THAT IN MIND, TO KICK THINGS OFF, LET'S GET MISS LISA PINGEL STEIN . THANKYOU FOR JOINING US. >> I'M HERE TONIGHT AS THE CHAIR OF THE CRA ADVISORY BOARD.
>> IS AT THE PRESENTATION IN THE AGENDA?
>> JUST A MOMENT, MAN. >> SURE.
EVERYBODY. TONIGHT WE ARE HERE REVISITING THE OPEN SPACE AND LOT C&D, AS A RECAP THE RIVERWALK IN THE AREA. THE SEAWALL HAS BEEN COMPLETED. THE -- THERE'S BEEN SOME OF THE BOAT PARKING, ALL OF THE BOAT TRAILER PARKING THAT YOU HAVE APPROVED ABOUT THREE MONTHS AGO HAS BEEN INSTALLED , THIS IS THE AREA THAT WOULD GO BETWEEN THE PARKING AREA AND THE SEA WALK RIVER AREA WE ARE TALKING ABOUT TONIGHT. WE ARE TALKING ABOUT IT BECAUSE YOU ASKED, ALSO BECAUSE WE HAVE BEEN TALKING ABOUT IT FOR A VERY LONG TIME. THIS IS THE TIME TO DO IT. WE HAVE OTHER THINGS IN PLACE. NOW IS THE TIME TO MOVE FORWARD, WHAT I'M BRINGING TONIGHT IS UNANIMOUSLY APPROVED BY THE CRA ADVISORY BOARD. I APOLOGIZE , IT IS JUST THE WAY IT WORKS. WHAT YOU ARE LOOKING AT TONIGHT IS A CONCEPT DRAWING FOR JAKE THE WATERFRONT, THIS IS MADE UP OF THE ELEMENTS WE HAVE TALKED ABOUT, THE LAST TIME I SPOKE TO YOU. CAN YOU GO TO THE NEXT ONE THAT HAS A LABEL ON IT, I THINK IT WILL BE HERE FOR ME TO FOLLOW ALONG HERE. ON THE PLAN, YOU WILL SEE THE EXISTING GRANT BUT IT IS GOING TO BE NARROWED A BIT. AS YOU COME ALONG THE SEA RIVERWALK, THIS IS ALREADY IN PLACE. WE ARE COMING INTO THE GREEN SPACE, YOU WILL SEE AT THE FAR END THE COURTS THERE ARE 16 COURTS , THAT IS WHAT IS THERE NOW, THESE ARE IF YOU LOOK
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CLOSELY, YOU CAN SEE UNDERNEATH THE RENDERING AN OUTLINE OF THE COURSE SO HE SHIFTED SLIGHTLY. BASICALLY, IN THE SAME LOCATION AND THERE IS THE SAME NUMBER OF THEM. THIS AREA IS REALLY THE ULTIMATE AND FLEXIBLE SPACE, THERE IS NO COST TO PUT IT IN BECAUSE IT IS ALREADY THERE. THERE ARE NO FENCES AROUND IT, IT CAN BE USED FOR VENDOR BOOTHS OR SEATING FOR SPECIAL EVENTS, AND IT CAN BE REMOVED AS NEEDED. IT IS AN INCREDIBLY FLEXIBLE SPACE LIKE I SAID WAS ALREADY THERE, SO THEN WE MOVE ON TO THE WALKWAY. CURRENTLY, IF YOU WALK OUT THE SEA WALK, YOU HAVE NO OPTION OTHER THAN TO JUST RETURN THE SAME WAY. WITH THIS CONCEPT, YOU WOULD BE ABLE TO COME IN HERE, AND, LONG THIS WALK AND BACK OUT TO MAKE A CIRCLE. AND COME THROUGH THE GREEN SPACE. SO, THEY WOULD BE AS WIDE AS POSSIBLE, THEY WILL BE ABOUT EIGHT WIDE IS WHAT WE ARE RECOMMENDING SO THAT PEOPLE CAN WALK TO GATHER AND THERE ARE SHADE TREES SCHEDULED TO GO ALONG THIS WALKWAY, THEY HAVE NOT BEEN DETERMINED WHAT THEY WOULD BE. THAT SOMETHING WE WOULD LOOK TO DO WITH THE HELP OF THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT, OR WHOEVER, IS GOING TO BE FUNDING THOSE TREES. SO THEN, WITHIN THE WALKWAY, YOU WILL SEE THREE DIFFERENT SPOTS THAT HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY FOR SOME ARTWORK OR THEY HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR A LANDSCAPE ELEMENT, SOMETHING TO -- YET TO BE DETERMINED BUT THERE ARE THREE LITTLE FOCAL AREAS RIGHT THERE. AND THEN HERE, FROM THE PARKING LOT IS AN AREA THAT IS MADE TO BE A VEHICLE ACCESS. IF YOU ARE HOLDING AN EVENT AND NEED TO UNLOAD CHAIRS OR SOMETHING.YOU COULD DRIVE ON AND ACCESS THE GREEN FIELD THAT WAY. WHEN THE CITY STAFF NEEDS TO MOW THAT AREA, THEY CAN ACCESS IT THAT WAY. IF WE WOULD CHOOSE TO USE THIS AS ADDITIONAL PARKING FOR A LARGE EVENT LIKE SHOWROOM FAST, THAT WOULD BE THE ACCESS POINT FOR THAT PARKING AND THEY COULD PARK EITHER HERE ON THE GREEN OR ON THE COURTS. THERE IS A FENCE BETWEEN THE SHRUBS, THE HEDGE HERE AND THE PARKING AREA.
JUST TO PREVENT PEOPLE FROM ACCESSING IT, GETTING OUT OF THEIR CAR, WALKING STRAIGHT INTO LANDSCAPING INTO THE PARK, WE WANT THEM TO USE PRESCRIBED ENTRANCES SO WE ARE NOT DAMAGING THE LANDSCAPE AS THEY COME IN AND GO OUT. THIS IS A MULTIPURPOSE PAVILION . IT AGAIN IS VERY MULTIFUNCTIONAL, IT HAS A RAISE PLAT FORM SO THAT WOULD HELP WITH HIS ABILITY, IT WOULD HELP IN THE EVENT OF LETTING ALTHOUGH THE SEAWALL IS THERE FOR THAT PURPOSE, AS YOU CAN SEE THE PLATFORM IS LARGER THAN THE COVERED PART OF THE GAZEBO, THE COVERED PART IN THIS RENDERING IS ABOUT 30 X 36'. 32 X 36', AGAIN, IT WOULD GIVE YOU QUITE A BIT OF SPACE FOR A CONCERT TO HAPPEN WITHIN THAT PAVILION OR FOR A BAND TO BE ON THAT PAVILION ON THE COVERED PART AND THEN PROJECTING OUT INTO THE LAWN THERE FOR AN EVENT. AGAIN, THAT BUILDING OR THAT STRUCTURE IT IS ANGLED SO THAT ANY SOUND THAT IS PROJECTED OUT TO THE LAWN WILL THEN GO THROUGH THE MILL RATHER THAN ANY RESIDENT SAYS. NEXT TO THAT AREA IS A SEATING AREA RIGHT HERE, AGAIN OPTIMAL SPOT ON THE RODDAR FRONT -- WATERFRONT TO VIEW THE SUNSET THAT IS SOMEPLACE WHERE YOU PUT CHESS TABLES OR SOME TYPE OF A GATHERING SPOT FOR PEOPLE TO SIT AND ENJOY THE WATERFRONT, AGAIN INITIATED WITH PALMS OR WITH SOME OTHER ALTERNATIVE TREE, HAS YET TO BE DETERMINED, THEN THERE IS A SMALL NUMBER 15, THIS IS A MARSH GAZEBO. IT IS PURPOSELY ANGLED THE WAY THAT IT IS SO THAT IT DOES NOT HAVE A VIEW OF SOME OF THE SURROUNDING AREA, BUT MORE LOOKS OUT TO THE WATER . AGAIN, AN IDEAL SPOT IF
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SOMEBODY WANTED TO USE IT AS A WEDDING CEREMONY THAN HAVE A RECEPTION UNDER THE MULTI USE PAVILION. IT GIVES YOU VIEWS OF THE MARINA BOATS THAN THE RIVER. SO, THE LAWN IS -- HAS SEATING FOR ROUGHLY 1200 PEOPLE . THIS WOULD COMPARE IF YOU THINK OF THE AREA THAT IS USED FOR SOUNDS ON CENTER, THAT HOLDS ABOUT 100 PEOPLE, THIS IS ABOUT HALF AS BIG AS THAT AREA.REALLY OPEN FOR RECREATION MOST OF THE TIME, FRISBEE, DOG RUNNING, SPORTS GAMES LIKE I SAID, IT CAN ALSO BE USED FOR SPECIAL EVENTS, VENDORS CAN SET UP BOOTHS ON THAT LAWN. THEN RIGHT OVER HERE, THAT WOULD BE A CHILDREN'S PLAY AREA, IT IS PURPOSELY LOCATED AWAY FROM THE PARKING LOT AS I SAID, THERE IS A FENCE BETWEEN THE HEDGE AND PARKING AREA SO A LITTLE MEASURE OF COMFORT FOR PARENTS. WE ARE SUGGESTING A STRUCTURE THERE THAT WOULD BE APPROPRIATE FOR MULTIPLE AGES AND ALSO A.D.A. ACCESSIBLE, KEEP IT SIMPLE. WE HAVE VERY LARGE PLAYGROUNDS THROUGHOUT THE COMMUNITY BUT IT WOULD BE NICE TO HAVE SOMETHING FOR KIDS TO ENJOY ON THE WATERFRONT TOO.
THEN THIS PLAN INCLUDES RESTROOMS, NUMBER 18 RIGHT HERE. THIS WOULD BE CLOSE TO THE MULTIPURPOSE PAVILION AND THE CHILDREN'S PLAY AREA FOR CONVENIENCE THERE . IT WOULD BE SIMILAR IN NATURE TO WHAT WE HAVE AT SIMMONS ROAD PARK, THOSE TYPES OF RESTAURANTS -- RESTROOMS. WE RECOMMEND MAYBE THERE IS A TREATMENT FOR SOMETHING THAT IS COMPLEMENTARY TO WHATEVER THE PAVILION WOULD BE DESIGNED TO LOOK LIKE THAT WOULD BE APPROPRIATE FOR THE WATERFRONT. WE HAVE NUMBER 19 RIGHT HERE. A POLLINATOR GARDEN, EXCUSE ME FOR BIRDS, BEES, AND BUTTERFLIES, THEN NEXT TO IT NUMBER 20 IS A PICNIC GROVE, SO THINK OF THIS WITH SHADE TREES, TALL SHADE TREES MAY BE BALD CYPRESS OR PALM TREES, OR SOME OTHER TYPE AND A 20 FOOT LONG PICNIC TABLE IN THE CENTER THAT COULD BE USED FOR GROUP PICNICS OR A COMMON TABLE, WE COULD SEE IT IN A COFFEE SHOP, IT WOULD BE A SHADED LOCATION. THE WAY THAT IT IS SITUATED, IT WOULD MINIMALLY IMPACT OF THE VIEW IF YOU WERE SITTING IN THE PARKING AREA , THERE ISN'T TOO MUCH THAT WOULD BE BLOCKED . THIS IS SIMILAR TO SOMETHING THAT ST. SIMONS HAS A LONGER WATERFRONT AND SEEMS TO BE A VERY POPULAR SPOT . WE WOULD ALSO RECOMMEND HERE, NUMBER 21 ALL ALONG THE SEAWALL. THE POTENTIAL FOR SOME HISTORICAL EDUCATIONAL INFORMATION. THIS COULD BE PLAQUES THAT SHOW A TIMELINE OF OUR HISTORY, WITH SOME IMPORTANT ELEMENTS OF HISTORY, FOR PEOPLE TO READ BUT IT WOULD NOT BE ANYTHING THAT WOULD BE TOO PROMINENT OR INTERFERING WITH ANYTHING. SO, BASICALLY I THINK THAT I'VE COVERED MOST OF THE PLAN AND THE HIGHLIGHTS, OBVIOUSLY THERE ARE THINGS THAT HAVE NOT BEEN ADDRESSED ON THIS PLAN THAT WOULD NEED TO BE TAKEN INTO CONSIDERATION, PLACEMENT FOR BENCHES, WHICH COULD BE ALONG THAT WALKWAY. GREAT HERE, BUT THROUGHOUT THE PARK, TRASH CONTAINERS, BIKE RACKS, STREETLIGHTS, WALKWAY LIGHTS, ANYTHING LIKE THAT. ELECTRIC OUTLETS WOULD NEED TO TAKE ALL OF THAT INTO CONSIDERATION SO WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO DO THE THINGS THERE THAT WE WANTED TO DO. BUT THEN AS FAR AS FUNDING GOES, WE HAVE TALKED ABOUT THE TREE FUND FOR THE CITY, ALSO KEEPING IT BEAUTIFUL, OTHER ORGANIZATIONS THAT MIGHT POTENTIALLY WANT TO GET SOME TREES, I THINK THERE'S A LOT OF OPPORTUNITY THERE IN TERMS OF GETTING LARGER, MORE MATURE TREES SO THAT WE START OFF WITH SOMETHING THAT IS SOMEWHAT DEVELOPED, I THINK PAULINE WAS LOOKING INTO THE POSSIBILITY OF USING IMPACT. THIS WOULD BE A NEW PARK, AND THEN THERE ARE SOME NAMING OPPORTUNITIES FOR ELEMENTS WITHIN THE PARK WE CAN PURSUE, THE GAZEBO ITSELF, THE PLAYGROUND, THINGS LIKE THAT.
I THINK YOU KNOW, THE PICNIC GROVE , THAT SORT OF THING THEN THERE ARE GRANTS AS WELL. SEVERAL OPPORTUNITIES I THINK
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FOR SOME OF THE FUNDING TO GO ALONG WITH IT. IF YOU WANT TO GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE, JUST TO ADDRESS THE PARKING BECAUSE IN THIS ONE, YOU WILL SEE IT IS KIND OF LEFT AND JUST -- I THINK THERE'S A PARKING ONE AT THE END.MAYBE NOT. MAYBE IT IS -- THAT'S OKAY, ORIGINALLY, WE HAD SUBMITTED THE PARKING PLAN THAT SHOWED THE BOAT RAMP PARKING, I KNOW THAT I SAW A COUPLE OF COMMENTS -- BOAT TRAILER PARKING SAYING THAT YOU KNOW, WE DID NOT HAVE THE BOAT TRAILER PARKING . IF YOU REMEMBER IN THE PLAN THAT WAS SUBMITTED AND HAS BEEN STARTED TO BE IMPLEMENTED, THE BOAT TRAILER PARKING WAS ORIGINALLY SEVEN SPACES AND WE HAD GONE UP TO I THINK 10, ONE HAD TO BE ELIMINATED BECAUSE THERE WAS A PROBLEM MOVING A FIRE HYDRANT, WE HAD NINE SO WE GAINED TWO ON THE BOAT TRAILERS AND THEN ON THE CAR PARKING, EVEN BRINGING THE MALTA CODE, WE HAVE -- IT IS EVEN. WE HAD 74 IN THIS PLAN, 74. THE ONLY THING THAT WILL CHANGE THAT WOULD BE DEPENDENT ON WHERE ATLANTIC SEAFOOD FALLS. THAT COULD IMPACT SOME OF THE PARKING SPACES. SO, THAT WAS A QUICK OVERVIEW BUT I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER SOME QUESTIONS.
>> IS ANY COMMISSION OR HAVE QUESTIONS FOR LISA? WE CAN GO TO THIS PART OF THE MEETING FIRST IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS ABOUT ANY PART OF THE PLAN. LET'S START WITH COMMISSIONER
>> THE NEXT STEP WOULD BE FOR I WOULD ASK YOU GUYS TO APPROVE THE CONCEPT AND ASK STAFF TO GO ON AND GET CONSTRUCTION DRAWINGS OR DESIGN DRAWINGS , PROFESSIONAL DRAWING SO THAT THEY CAN PROCEED TO THE NEXT STEP TO START TO IMPLEMENT IT.
ROSS , WITH STAFF IS THAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT GOING THROUGH TRC, THE HTC, IF APPLICABLE, PARKS AND REC, ALL OF THESE COMMITTEES WOULD TOUCH THIS PROJECT CORRECT? I'M
ASSUMING. >> THERE IS A PRESENTATION TO THE HTC ON THURSDAY. WITH THE CONCEPT , I'M NOT AWARE THAT IT NEEDS TO GO THROUGH -- OKAY. SO, OKAY.
>> JUST MAKING SURE. AWESOME, I HAVE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS ABOUT THE PLAN ITSELF, JUST TO REITERATE, YOU DID SAY AND I KNOW WE HAVE APPROVED HALF THE PLAN, THAT FIRST HALF WAS THE PARKING LOT, THAT INCLUDES INCREASING BOAT TRAILERS BASE BY TWO, NO DECREASE TO THE AMOUNT OF PARKING SPOTS, UNDERSTOOD. YOU MENTIONED THAT -- I DID HERE EARLIER WE CAN USE IMPACT FEES TO PAY FOR THIS. THAT IS GOOD. WITH THAT, I THINK A LOT OF IT IS EXPLAINED FOR ITSELF, WE WILL HAVE MORE DISCUSSION LATER. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, WE GO TO
PUBLIC COMMENT. >> NOT YET. SHE'S HERE. OKAY, I THINK NEXT WE GO TO PUBLIC COMMENT AND I DO HAVE ONE,
LET'S CALL UP -- >> I DID NOT SEE THE --
>> GREAT NEWS, WE GOT THEM NOW AND YOU ARE -- I THINK THAT MR. SHARP WILL BE FINE IF WE DO LADIES FIRST, YOU CAN GO AHEAD AND WE ALREADY HAVE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS IF YOU WANT US --
TO JUMP ON IT. YES MA'AM. >> THANK YOU. JOAN, 408 BEECH STREET AND THE ONLY THING THAT I WANTED TO DO IS SAY THAT I THINK THAT THE COMMITTEE , THE CRA COMMITTEE DID A WONDERFUL JOB WITH TAKING SOME OF THE COMMUNITY MEETINGS AND WHAT THEY WANTED TO SEE, AND A LOT OF THAT IS INCORPORATED IN THEIR PLAN, IT IS FOR THE RESIDENTS OF FERNANDINA, BUT ALSO FOR TAURUS BECAUSE IT IS SO CLOSE THAT THEY WILL BE ABLE TO GET EASILY FROM THE CENTER STREET DOWN INTO THE PARK , ONE THING, THE ONLY THING I'M GOING TO ADD IS AN AQUARIUM. THE TOWN OF ST. PETER'S HAS GOT A VERY NICE WATERFRONT. PART OF THAT IS A SMALL AQUARIUM THAT TELLS SOME OF THE THINGS THAT ARE GOING ON IN THE LOCAL WATERS, BUT OTHER
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THINGS TOO. I HAVE SOME INFORMATION ON THAT ANYTIME YOU WOULD LIKE TO DISCUSS IT. WE DON'T NEED TO DO IT NOW BUT I THINK FOR PEOPLE WHO ARE BRINGING FAMILIES TO DOWNTOWN TO WALK ALONG CENTER STREET, ON SATURDAY. THEY GET IT DOWN THERE INTO WHERE THE RESTAURANT IS , AND THERE IS AN AQUARIUM , ONE OF THE THINGS THEY ALWAYS HAVE IS A CIRCULAR TANK THAT IS A TOUCH TANK FOR LITTLE KIDS , WE HAVE HAD IT SOMETIMES FOR SHRIMP FAST , THAT IS ALL. I REALLY WOULD LIKE TO SEE AN AQUARIUM DOWN THERE, I THINK IT IS ANAPPROPRIATE USE. >> THANK YOU. LET'S CALL MR. MICHAEL SHARP. MICHAEL SHARP, I LIVE AT 1/39 STREET DOWNTOWN.
I WILL GO AHEAD AND APOLOGIZE TO SOME YOU PEOPLE RIGHT NOW BECAUSE I WILL MAKE YOU MAD, I'M SORRY. IT IS BIZARRE TO ME THAT WE ARE BACK HERE AGAIN REHASHING THIS NOTION WE SHOULD HAVE THE COURTS ON OUR WATERFRONT, IT WAS A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO WE HAD OVERWHELMING OPPOSITION TO IT, THIS IS A SCALED-DOWN VERSION OF THE PARK BUT THEY REMAIN, HOW DOES THAT HAPPEN. .35% OF CITY TAXPAYERS GET THIS DOMINANT PRESENCE IN OUR DOWNTOWN WATERFRONT. LOOK NO FURTHER THAN YOUR FAR RIGHT, JEFF ROSS -- CHIP ROSS IS OUR RESIDENT COMMISSIONER, THE REST OF US TAXPAYERS DO NOT WANT TO FUND THIS ON OUR WATERFRONT, ALL OF YOU MUST KNOW THIS IS NOT IN OUR CITY'S BEST INTEREST, EVEN OUR PREVIOUS MAYOR THAT SUPPORTED THE EFFORT LAST TIME ACKNOWLEDGED THAT THE PUBLIC DOES NOT SUPPORT THIS CHANGE AND CHANGE HIS VOTE TO KNOW.
PARKING IS AN ISSUE, THE OLD STANDARD MARINE BUILDING IS APPROVED TO BE AN ENTERTAINMENT BUILDING AND THEY NEED PARKING.
THE OLD MARINO RESTAURANT WILL SOON BE REOPENED AND THEY NEED PARKING. YOU HAVE APPROVED A NEW ATLANTIC SEAFOOD RESTAURANT AND SEAFOOD SHOP, THEY NEED PARKING. NOW YOU WANT TO APPROVE A LARGE PART 16 COURTS THAT WILL SERVE A FRACTION OF 1% OF OUR TAXPAYERS AND THEY NEED PARKING. THE CHARTER CAPTAINS AND PEOPLE THAT USE OUR VOTES IN -- BOTH IN OUR MARINA NEED PARKING AND WILL NEED THIS PARKING TAKEN UP BY PARTYGOERS, THE FEW BOAT TRAILER SLIPS ON THE PLAN ARE INSUFFICIENT TO SATISFY THE DEMAND FOR MARINA PARKING.
MAYOR BEING, I LIKE YOU. I KNOW YOU WANT TO GET THIS PROJECT DONE, YOU WANT TO BE THE GUY THAT GOT A PARK DOWNTOWN WHEN OTHER ADMINISTRATIONS FAILED. THEY FILLED BECAUSE PEOPLE DON'T WANT IT DOWN THERE, BECAUSE IT NEEDS -- THERE IS MORE HAPPENING DOWN THERE, IT IS NOT YOUR WILL OR CHIP ROSS AS WELL, IT IS THE TAXPAYERS. THEY DO NOT SUPPORT THIS. DAVID STURGES , YOU WERE ALL ELECTED TO STOP THIS KIND OF STUFF FROM HAPPENING. THIS IS NOT THE TAXPAYERS WILL IN THE CITY. IT IS OKAY TO DO SOME THINGS , THERE'S A LOT OF MOVING PARTS, THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS THAT ARE ABOUT TO HAPPEN, LET IT TAKE PLACE, LET'S TAKE A LOOK AND SEE WHAT HAPPENS WHEN THESE OTHER PROJECTS THAT ARE ALREADY APPROVED ARE DEVELOPED, LET'S SEE WHAT HAPPENS WITH ATLANTIC SEAFOOD AND THE MARINA RESTAURANT AND THE STANDARD MARINE BUILDING, THERE IS MORE GOING ON THAN WE WANT TO THROW ALL THIS OUT RIGHT NOW. I'M ASKING YOU TO VOTE NO , IT IS THE WRONG THING FOR US TO DO RIGHT NOW. I APOLOGIZE TO PEOPLE THAT WORK SO HARD ON THIS, I KNOW SOME HARD WORK WENT INTO IT. I DON'T SEE IT THAT WAY AND I DON'T THINK
MOST PEOPLE DO. >> THANK YOU, MR. SHARP AND I ALSO HAVE A REQUEST FOR MS. JOYCE.
>> THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR TIME, MY NAME IS JOYCE, I LIVE AT 2120 BEECH STREET, I AM ON THE BOARD OF CONSERVATIVES, I'M A CLIMATE EDUCATOR. THE BOARD OF CONSERVATIVE -- SENT YOU AN EMAIL BUT YOU PROBABLY DID NOT SEE IT, WE SENT IT LATE, ONLY ABOUT A HALF AN HOUR AGO, WE WOULD LIKE TO SUPPORT THIS PROJECT, WE THINK IT IS A LOT OF TIME AND EFFORT AND A LOT OF COMMUNITY INPUT WENT INTO IT, WE THINK IT IS ATTRACTIVE AND MULTI USE, WE APPRECIATE THAT THERE IS NOT A LOT OF EXPENSIVE INFRASTRUCTURE BEING PUT THERE BECAUSE THAT AREA WILL FLOOD, IT IS NOT WHEN WILL IT FLOOD, IT WILL FLOOD.
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BY 2050, WE WILL HAVE ONE ADDITIONAL FOOT OF SEA LEVEL RISE BY THE TURN-OF-THE-CENTURY, 2100, THERE WILL BE TWO TO 7 FEET OF ADDITIONAL RISE. SO, THE BATON COURTS I AGREE. NOT A WHOLE LOT OF PEOPLE PLAY THAT, BUT AS LISA FINKLESTEIN SAID, THEY ARE MULTI USE FOR PARKING AND WHATNOT. CONSERVE NASA DOES HAVE ONE MAJOR CONCERN AND I HAVE ONE MINUTE AND 50 SECONDS TO BAG AND PLEAD THAT EVERY SINGLE PLAN THAT GOES IN THERE BE A NATIVE PLANT . EVERY SINGLE PERSON IN THIS ROOM ABSOLUTELY LOVES OUR NATIVE ANIMALS, WE LOVE OUR PELICANS AND OUR PAINTED BUNTINGS , ON SOCIAL MEDIA FILLED WITH SIGHTINGS OF ALL OF OUR NATIVE CREATURES, WE WILL NOT HAVE OUR NATIVE CREATURES IF WE DO NOT HAVE NATIVE PLANTS, THEY GO HAND IN HAND , THEY HAVE COEVOLVED OVER MILLENNIA. MOST NON-NATIVE PLANTS MIGHT AS WELL BE PLASTIC TO AN ANIMAL. I KNOW THAT LISA FINKLESTEIN SAID THEY ARE NOT CERTAIN WHAT THESE TREES ARE GOING TO BE, BUT THE NEWS LEADER, JULIA ROBERTS REPORT SAID THERE WOULD BE , THE PALMS WERE GOING TO BE A PALM FROM PAKISTAN, SOUTHEAST ASIA, THE FINNIC SILVA STRESS BECAUSE IT HAS -- THROWS ADDITIONAL SHADE, PLEASE , THE OLDEST RESIDENTS IN THE CITY WOULD LIKE TO WALK OUT THERE DOOR AND KNOW THEY ARE IN NORTH FLORIDA. THEY WOULD LIKE TO SEE A SABAL PALM OR A NATIVE CABBAGE PALM, IT GIVES YOU A SENSE OF PLACE OF WHERE YOU ARE. IT WILL SUPPORT ALL KINDS OF CREATURES, OUR NATIVE PALM SUPPORTS THE NORTHERN YELLOW BAT, WOULDN'T IT BE AWESOME IF WE HAD FREE MOSQUITO CONTROL, BECAUSE THE BATS ARE IN OUR PALMS. THE CANOPY TREES NEED TO BE MASSIVE, WE'RE TALKING BIG, LIVE OAKS THAT WILL DISSIPATE WIND AS STORMS BLOW IN, ABSORB WATER AS IT FLOODS AND HOLD ONTO THE SOIL AS THE FLOODWATERS COME WITH THEIR MASSIVE ROOTS, PALMS HAVE HARDLY ANY ROOTS, PLEASE, NATIVE PALM, NATIVE PLANTS, GONATIVE. THANK YOU. >> WE INVITE MR. LEWIS GOLDMAN
TO THE PODIUM. >> GOOD EVENING, MY NAME IS LEWIS GOLDMAN, I LIVE AT 43 SOUTH FIFTH STREET IN FERNANDINA BEACH, I REALLY LIKE THE PLAN HERE , I THINK THERE'S A NICE JOB ON IT. I HAVE A QUESTION, IS THERE ANY INCOME PRODUCED IN WHAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT?
>> NO. >> THAT TAKES ABOUT $400,000 A YEAR TO RUN THOSE MARINAS , IS THAT RIGHT?
>> I'M NOT SURE ABOUT THOSE EXACT NUMBERS.
>> WHATEVER THE NUMBER IS , WE ARE USING UP A LOT OF PROPERTY AND NOT INCREASING ANY INCOME, THERE IS A POSSIBILITY OF MAKING SOME MONEY ON THE PROPERTY. CAN YOU PUT THIS -- BACKUP. YOU CAN TAKE THIS BUILDING RIGHT HERE , IF YOU HAD 50 FEET BACK HERE , IN THIS BUILDING, WHICH I THINK WILL BE BUILT BY THE CITY , YOU CAN PUT YOUR -- TO STOREFRONTS, TO STOREFRONTS TO BE RENTED OUT TO THE YACHT PROGRAM -- YACHT BROKER, AVIONICS, MECHANICAL, A LOT OF OPPORTUNITY TO LEASE THE PROPERTY IS THERE, IT IS A SHAME TO SEE ALL THOSE PROPERTIES BEING BUILT ON WITH NO INCOME PRODUCING, THERE IS ONE WAY THAT YOU COULD HAVE SOME MONEY COMING IN, TO ADD ONTO THAT BUILDING. THANK YOU.
OTHER REQUEST TO SPEAK TONIGHT?
>> PETE, COME ON DOWN SIR, ABSOLUTELY. WE WILL BE GOOD TO GO. PETE STEPHENSON, 1627 IHLEN DUNES WAY, FERNANDINA BEACH. FIRST OF ALL, I WANT TO COMPLEMENT ALL THE PEOPLE THAT PUT TOGETHER THE PRESENTATION THAT YOU SAW AND THE CONCEPTS, I UNDERSTAND THERE MAY BE SOME ISSUES HERE OR THERE, THAT IS THE THING WE WORK OUT . MY CONCERN IS WE ALREADY BEGINNING TO GET THE NEGATIVES BEFORE WE EVEN GET STARTED , WE HAVE GOT
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TO MOVE FORWARD, WE NEED TO GET THIS PLAN APPROVED, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THIS COMMISSION CUT THE RIBBON ON JANUARY THE FIRST, 2025 AS A PRESENT TO OUR CITY, SHE WILL BE 200 YEARS OLD AND LET'S MOVE FORWARD, LET'S NOT TAKE OUR EYES OFF THE BALL, WE CAN MAKE MODIFICATIONS TO THE DESIGN AS WE GO ALONG. 90% OF IT IS PROBABLY GENERAL -- I THINK WE'VE GOT TO FOCUS ON LET'S GO WITH THE 90% AND START -- STOP FIGURING OUT WHY WE CANNOT GET THOSE WATERFRONT FIX -- FIXED, IT LOOKS LIKE YOU KNOW WHAT, WE HAVE STARTED AND WE HAVE TO KEEP IT GOING. THANKS.[5.1 CONSIDER CRAAB PARKING LOTS C AND D OPEN SPACE RECOMMENDATIONS]
>> PLEASE, SIR. >> ALL RIGHT, I HAVE NO OTHER REQUEST TO SPEAK ON THIS, WE WILL OPEN IT UP TO COMMISSION DISCUSSION. IF WE HAVE ANY POINTS OR COMMENTS ANYONE WANTS TO MAKE, THE COMMISSION WILL HAVE A MOTION. COMMISSIONER
ANTON, PLEASE. >> I WOULD LIKE TO ACKNOWLEDGE HER CONCERNS, A LOT OF YOUR SUPPORT FOR THIS, MR. SHARP, YOURS AS FAR AS LOSS OF PARKING AND JUST A NOTE I FEEL AS -- IF WE ARE ABLE TO NET ZERO PARKING HERE AND SERVING AS MULTI USE, WE ARE NOT SPENDING MONEY TO LEAVE COURTS THERE, THEY CAN BE ADAPTED FOR THAT REASON IT, A LOT OF THE REST OF THE PARK, I WOULD BE IN SUPPORT TO SEE THAT CAN REMAIN FLEXIBLE IS SOMETHING THERE, I DO APPRECIATE YOUR COMMENTS DESPITE THE POLITE DISAGREEMENT. ANY OTHER
COMMENTS OR DISCUSSION? >> YIELD. I WILL YIELD TO THE VICE MAYOR, THE SLOWEST DRAW IN THE WEST. I'M WAITING FOR MORE TO DICTATE, THAT'S ALL RIGHT. I WILL GO AHEAD AND TURN MY OVER AND GIVE MY OPINION. I AM JUST NOT A BIG FAN OF THE COURTS, I LIKE A LOT OF THE THINGS AND FEATURES WITH THE PLAN, I SPOKE TO LISA THIS WEEK AND I SPOKE TO MIKE, I SPOKE TO PHILIPPE WHO IS A PLAYER, AND I AM JUST NOT A BIG FAN OF IT.
I WOULD PREFER TO SEE POSSIBLY A HUT WITH OUR LOCAL BREWERS AND POSSIBLY A DOG PARK, THINGS WHERE PEOPLE CAN SIT OUTSIDE WITH HER DOGS AND HAVE A BEER OR IN OUR PARK SETTING, I CAN SEE A LOT OF ALL DIFFERENT OTHER IDEAS THAT WOULD APPEAL TO 50 OR 75% OF THE RESIDENCE SITTING. I DO -- UNDERSTAND THE REPARATION SIDE OF IT. I WOULD PREFER TO SEE THE PARKS IN CENTRAL PARK, I WOULD SUPPORT IT THERE. OTHER THAN THAT, THE ONLY CRITIQUE THAT I LIKE -- I DO LIKE THE IDEA THE PLANT CIRCLING AROUND, I WOULD TAKE IT FURTHER OUT BEHIND WHERE THE POTENTIAL COURTS COME AROUND, I WOULD ADD A CIRCLE AT THE END, THAT IS HOW MY VISION -- OTHER THAN THAT, I DO WANT A PAVILION PART, I WANT A BATHROOM TO UPGRADE OUR FRONT , I DO THINK WE NEED TO DO IT, I DON'T THINK IT HAS TO BE TODAY, HOWEVER IF THE REST OF THE COMMISSION THINGS WE NEED TO PROCEED ON, I DO UNDERSTAND THAT. I'M JUST GIVING MY OPINION, I THINK WE COULD GET IT DONE AT A LATER DATE, WE COULD WAIT FOR SOME OF THESE OTHER THINGS TO HAPPEN HOWEVER, I'M JUST NOT A BIG FAN OF THE COURTS BEING OUT THERE WHETHER IT IS 50 OR 100 PEOPLE THAT ARE CITIZENS THAT USE IT. I THINK THAT I LIKE THE WHOLE IDEA OF THE ASSOCIATION USING IT WHEN THEY COME TO HAVE THEIR GIANT TOURNAMENT, I THINK THAT IS AN AWESOME THING FOR THEM TO COME AND HAVE AN INTERNATIONAL EVENT HERE, I THINK THEY COULD DO IT ANYTIME THEY WANT LIKE THAT, I UNDERSTAND THAT THEY USE IT FROM MY DISCUSSION BASICALLY FROM OKTOBERFEST TO SHRIMP FEST, OR VICE VERSA DURING THE WINTER SEASON. I DO UNDERSTAND THAT BUT THE SUN SHINES IN THE PARK WHEN YOU'RE NOT UNDER THE TREES. THAT IS MY ONLY CONCERN OTHER THAN THAT, WE ARE GOING TO MAKE IMPROVEMENTS DOWN THERE, IT WILL HAPPEN SOONER OR
LATER. THAT'S WHAT I THINK. >> COMMISSIONER ROSS?
>> AND IS GOING TO READ FROM THE NEWS LEAD EDITORIAL. THE PARK PLAN IS A WINNER AND THE CITY SHOULD MOVE ON IT, THAT WILL BE THE FIRST PARAGRAPH. THERE IS A QUOTE CREDITED TO EMMA WATSON, IF NOT ME, WHO? IF NOT NOW, WHEN? THE ADAGE CAN BE APPLIED TO MANY SITUATIONS WHEN SOMEONE NEEDS TO STEP UP, WHEN SOMETHING NEEDS TO HAPPEN. THIS IS THE SITUATION WITH THE AMELIA RIVER WATERFRONT IN FERNANDINA BEACH, FOR YEARS, DECADES IN FACT THERE HAVE BEEN TALK AND DEBATE, IMPLANTS FOR DEVELOPMENT IN THE AREA YET NOTHING HAS COME UNTIL THESE PLANS, UNTIL NOW AND THEY GO ON TO TALK ABOUT IT. IN THE END IT
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SAYS THE CITY HAS BEEN SUCK -- STUCK IN A CYCLE OF INDECISION AND PROCRASTINATION, INTERNAL DISAGREEMENTS AND POLITICAL CHANGE-UPS, WE THINK -- OUR REPRESENTATIVES TO TAKE THIS OPPORTUNITY TO GET SOMETHING DONE, TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THE SITUATION AND IMPROVE THIS PARK PLAN. IF NOT NOW, WHEN?>> I WOULD LIKE TO ADD IN THE RECORD, THANK YOU.
>> I WILL GO AHEAD AND JUMP IN UNLESS ANYONE WANTS TO GO FIRST. I THINK IT IS A FINE PLAN. I DON'T SEE ANY ISSUES, I WILL SAY THAT I AGREE THAT HAVING THE COURTS DOWN THERE ON THE RIVERFRONT'S FOR BEST USE OF THAT PLAN, IT IS JUST MY OPINION, I DON'T BELIEVE SO AT ALL. I DO UNDERSTAND THERE IS AN ECONOMIC AND ACT -- IMPACT WITH THE INTERNATIONAL TOURNAMENTS, I CAN CERTAINLY RESPECT THAT BUT YOU KNOW, IF YOU LOOK AT A LOT OF THIS PLAN, IT COULD -- I THINK JEREMIAH COULD TAKE A TRACTOR AND PROBABLY TAKE IT DOWN IN LESS THAN A DAY IF WE DID NOT LIKE IT, I'M NOT SAYING THAT'S WHAT WE SHOULD DO, IT'S NOT -- IT'S VERY BASIC AND VERY EASY TO SWITCH OUT THINGS WHETHER IT IS COURTS OR WHETHER IT IS A CIRCLE WALK-THROUGH, IT'S REALLY NOT THAT DIFFICULT.
I'M JUST INDIFFERENT TO PLANS ON THE WATERFRONT IN GENERAL, MY WHOLE ASPECT OF LOOKING AT THE WATERFRONT IS TO MAKE SURE THE SEAWALL IS DONE. THAT IS MY MAIN FOCUS WHEN IT COMES TO ANYTHING ON THE WATERFRONT, IT IS THE REASON WHY A WAS BEHIND , THE OLD BUILDING HAS TO GO IN ORDER FOR US TO BUILD THE SEAWALL. I CAN GO WITH THIS PLAN, I'M JUST TRULY INDIFFERENT. AS IT COMES TO IT, BUT I CAN AGREE THAT THE COURTS ARE PROBABLY THE STICKING POINT FOR A LOT OF CITIZENS. THEY STAY, I AM OKAY WITH THAT TOO. THERE'S A LOT IN THIS PLAN I THINK WORKS REALLY WELL AND THEN IT DIDN'T, WE CAN PROBABLY CHANGE IT IN A MATTER OF YOU KNOW, A MATTER OF ONE OR TWO MOVES. THAT IS IT.
>> EXCELLENT POINT, COMMISSIONER THANK YOU. I WILL GO AHEAD AND GIVE YOU MY OPINION ON THIS, THAT IS I'M GOING TO GO OUT AND SAY IT, I LIKE THE PLAN, I LIKE THE PLAN AND IF YOU HAVE BEEN WATCHING ME FOR A WHILE, IT'S NO SECRET I LIKE PLANS LIKE THIS AS EVERYONE KNOWS, THE LAST WATERFRONT PLAN I WAS ALONE IN DEFENDING THAT, IT WAS 1-4, I BELIEVE FOR SOME TIME WE NEEDED TO DO SOMETHING BY OUR WATERFRONT, OUR RIVER IS A BEAUTIFUL PLACE THAT SHOULD BE OPEN TO THE PUBLIC, IT SHOULD BE A PLACE WHERE PEOPLE CAN AND SHOW -- ENJOY BEAUTIFUL NATURAL BEAUTY THAT MAKES OUR COMMITTEE WHAT IT IS, THAT IS WHY THIS PLAN IN PARTICULAR IS IMPORTANT TO ME, I'M GOING TO GO THROUGH A COUPLE OF REASONS FOR THE COMMITTEE'S BENEFIT TO LET YOU KNOW HOW I CAME TO THIS DECISION AND WHY I THINK THE COMMISSION IS CONCURRING, NUMBER ONE THE FINANCES OF IT AS YOU MAY ALSO KNOW, THIS IS THE YEAR THAT WE DID NOT RAISE YOUR TAXES. FOR THE FIRST TIME IN OVER A DECADE WE DID NOT INCREASE TAXES FOR MANY TAXPAYERS, IF THERE'S ANY YEAR, THIS IS THE YEAR WE HAVE GREAT BUDGETING AND IN FACT, ONE OF THE WAYS WE CAN MAKE THIS HAPPEN IS WEEKEND USE PARKS AND REC IMPACT FEES TO MAKE THIS PLAN A REALITY, THAT IS SOMETHING WE CAN DO AND WITH THAT IN MIND, IT IS SOMETHING THAT WE ARE UNLOCKING SOME FUNDS THAT BELONG TO THE PEOPLE, THIS IS A WAY TO GIVE BACK TO THE PEOPLE PUTTING IT HERE, THAT IS IMPORTANT. THEN THINKING ABOUT THAT FURTHERMORE, JUST IN GENERAL, LOOK AT THE COST OF BUILDING THIS IS AS COMMISSIONER ASKED YOU AND ALLUDED, THAT IS NOT A RELATIVELY EXPENSIVE PLAN AT ALL, THE MOST EXPENSIVE PART IS THAT THE PAVILION GAZEBO STRUCTURE IN THE MIDDLE , THAT IS SOMETHING I THINK THAT IS IMPORTANT THAT PEOPLE WOULD LOVE TO COME GATHER IN THE GAZEBO, IT HAS MULTI-PURPOSES, I WILL GET INTO IT IN A SECOND, THE THEME I LIKE, IT IS FLEXIBLE, MULTIPURPOSE, I DO WANT TO ADDRESS THAT BECAUSE THIS IS SOMETHING THAT IS -- I HEAR PEOPLE TALKING ABOUT IT , I HEAR THEM SAYING THAT IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT EVERYONE IN THE COMMUNITY USES, I COMPLETELY UNDERSTAND THAT. I WILL TELL YOU WHEN I LOOK AT THAT. I DON'T JUST SEE A COURT, I SEE A PLACE WHERE ANYTHING CAN HAPPEN, AS SHOWN IN THIS PICTURE, IT IS SET UP AS A VENDOR FOR SOME SORT OF FESTIVAL, IT CAN BE USED. THE WORD THAT I'M LOOKING FOR IS FLEXIBLE, I THINK THE COURTS ARE THE ULTIMATE, FLEXIBLE ASSET TO HAVE AND THE FACT THAT THEY CAN BE USED AS SEATING IF YOU WILL HAVE MAYBE SOMEBODY PLAY, HERE'S THE THING, WE HAVE NOT EVEN FULLY ENVISION
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WHAT WE CAN USE THIS FOR, ONE OF THEM COULD BE SOMETHING LIKE HAVING A PART -- CONCERT IN THE PARK AND IN THE PAVILION, SEE PEOPLE CAN SIT ON THE COURTS AND LISTEN, YOU CAN USE IT FOR THOSE TENSE AS SOME SORT OF FARMER'S MARKET, HERE'S THE THING, WE HAVE OPTIONS AND THAT IS THE WHOLE POINT, IT CAN BE USED FOR MANY DIFFERENT PURPOSES, WE ARE JUST TAKING A PLACE IN OUR COMMUNITY THAT'S BEEN NEGLECTED WITH JUST A LITTLE BIT OF MONEY, A SMALL INVESTMENT WE CAN TURN IT INTO SOMETHING PEOPLE WILL USE FOR MANY DIFFERENT REASONS, THEN FINALLY I WANT TO HIT ON TWO OTHER THINGS, THE PARKING ASPECT, I SEE THAT BROUGHT UP AS THE CRA ADVISORY BOARD VERY WELL THOUGHT OUT, I THINK I HAVE SEEN SOME OTHER MEETINGS WHERE THEY TALK ABOUT THIS, THIS DOES NOT TAKE AWAY ANY PARKING, IT MAKES THE PARKING LOT BETTER, IT ADDS TO THE TRAILER PARKING SPOTS, PEOPLE LIKE TO PARK THEIR BOATS AND USE THE BOAT RAMP, THEY DON'T PARK THEIR BOATS, THEY PARK THEM AND THEIR TRAILERS THERE, IT ADDS TWO ADDITIONAL TRAILER PARKING SPOTS BY MAKING THE PARKING LOT MORE EFFICIENT, I SEE THAT IS A BIG WIN THEN IT OPENS UP MORE SPACE WILL BE CAN GET THAT SPACE BACK TO THE PEOPLE, IT IS IMPORTANT WE HAVE THIS OPEN SPACE FOR PEOPLE TO USE. THEN FINALLY, I WILL END WITH IT IS JUST TIME. IT IS TIME. I HAVE USED THIS ANECDOTE A FEW TIMES, THE FURTHER -- IT'S NOW IN ONLINE PUBLICATION WE HAVE PEOPLE FROM THE OBSERVER HERE, HOWEVER BEFORE THAT, IT'S -- IT WAS AN ALL TIME A NEWSPAPER IF YOU GO TO THE MUSEUM OF HISTORY, YOU WILL FIND OLD COPIES FROM 100 YEARS AGO OF THE FERNANDINA OBSERVER, A PRINTED NEWSPAPER.IF YOU LOOK AT IT, I CANNOT TELL YOU THE EXACT DATE BUT I DID SEE IT. THE HEADLINE SAID -- FROM THE YEAR 18 SOMETHING AT DEAD FERNANDINA CITY COMMISSION, DETERMINES WHAT TO DO WITH THE WATERFRONT, THAT ONE WILL BE -- THEY TALKED ABOUT THIS FOR OVER 100 YEARS, THEY WERE DISCUSSING THIS EXACT TOPIC AND FRANKLY, WE HAVE NEGLECTED INVESTING IN THIS BECAUSE IT'S SIMPLY -- YOU GO DOWN THERE RIGHT NOW AND LOOK AT IT, THE COURTS ARE ALREADY THERE, I MAKE SURE I HAD THAT HOME, IT JUST DOES NOT LOOK THE WAY I THINK IT SHOULD FOR THE COMMUNITY, I DO THINK THAT THE COMMUNITY IS LOOKING FOR SOMETHING THEY CAN GO AND WATCH THE SUNSET AT THE END OF THE DAY, THAT'S WHAT EVERYBODY WANTS. THAT'S WHY IT WILL NOT BE SUPPORTING THIS TONIGHT, WE ARE LOOKING AT AS THE COMMISSIONER SAID, AS HE SAID DURING THE QUESTION SESSION, THIS IS NOT THE FINAL APPROVAL, WHAT THIS IS A SAYING THE COMMISSION IS GIVING THUMBS UP, WE LOVE THIS CONCEPT OF THE COMMISSION SAYS YES TONIGHT, WE'RE SAYING LET'S GET THE GO-AHEAD, WE STILL NEED A REVIEW FROM THE HISTORIC COUNSEL, WE NEED REVIEW FROM THE TECHNICAL COUNCIL, THE TRC TO GET REVIEWS FROM THOSE TWO COUNCILS, THIS IS WHAT A YES VOTE DOES, HE GETS THOSE REVIEWS AND THEN FINALLY, THIS IS SOMETHING THAT CAN BE EASILY DONE AND WE ARE FLEXIBLE, IT APPLIES TO WHAT WE BUILT HERE. DOWN THE ROAD, IF WE DETERMINE AT SOME POINT IN THE FUTURE THAT MAYBE THE PICNIC TABLE WAS NOT LONG ENOUGH, IF WE DETERMINE THERE ARE IMPROVEMENTS THAT NEED TO BE MADE OR IF THIS COMMUNITY COMES TOGETHER. WE ARE ABLE TO FLEXIBLY AMEND THIS, IT IS DEFINITELY SOMETHING THAT CAN BE FIXED, BUT THIS IS FIXING IT, TONIGHT, WE ARE DOING IS APPROVING A PLAN THAT WILL MAKE THIS A LOT BETTER FOR THE COMMUNITY. THAT'S MY POINT AND THOUGHTS ON IT, I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE I MADE THAT CLEAR TO THE COMMUNITY ON WHAT WE ARE DOING TONIGHT, OTHER ANY FURTHER DISCUSSIONS? I SEE MR. ROSS HAS HIS LIGHT ON.
>> RARELY, YOU AND I AGREE. I AGREE WITH MR. ROSS, MAYBE I
SHOULDN'T HAVE. >> I AGREED WITH YOU!
>> COMMISSIONER ROSS, DOING HERE -- I THINK WE NEED TO HAVE A MOTION, IS THERE A MOTION? LET'S GO TO THE CITY ATTORNEY,
IS THIS CONSENSUS? >> NO NEED FOR MOTION.
>> I THINK EMOTION IS THE BEST THING. DO I HEAR A MOTION?
>> I WILL MAKE A MOTION TO DIRECT STAFF TO MOVE FORWARD
WITH THE SESSION. >> COMMISSIONER ROSS, HOW ABOUT
YOU MAKE THE MOTION? >> I WOULD MAKE THE MOTION TO MOVE , COME UP WITH A -- TAKE THIS CONCEPTUAL PLAN AND SUBMIT IT TO AN ENGINEERING FIRM TO TURN IT INTO A CONSTRUCTION PLAN THAT CAN BE -- GOING TO THE TRC. IT CAN THEN BE BID OUT TO BE BUILT. THE NEXT STEP WOULD BE TO GO TO -- TO GET A DESIGN. IT TAKES ALL OF THESE CONCEPTS, PUTS IT INTO CONSTRUCTION DRAWINGS AND THEN PUTS ANYTHING BENCHES, LIGHTING, AND ALL THIS STUFF. IS THAT WHAT WE NEED?
>> YES. MOVE. I HAVE A SECOND FOR COMMISSIONER ANTON. ANY
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FURTHER DISCUSSION? PLEASE CALL THE ROLE.>> COMMISSIONER ROSS, COMMISSIONER ANTON? VICE MAYOR STURGES , MAYOR BEEN? THAT PASSES 4-1, THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR EVERYONE'S TIME TONIGHT. THAT'S ALL WE HAVE ON THE AGENDA UNTIL OUR REGULAR SCHEDULE MEETING AT 6:00. ANY FURTHER COMMISSIONER COMMENTS.
* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.