Dec 19, 2023 Regular Meeting

THAT PASSES 5-0. RESOLUTION 6.1, BUDGET TRANSFERS. MR. CITY MANAGER, CHARLIE

GEORGE. >> THANK YOU, CHARLIE GEORGE, TEMPORARILY INTERIM CITY MANAGER.

RESOLUTION 2023-228 IS APPROVING A BUDGET TRANSFER FROM THE CITY MANAGER TO THE CITY CLERK'S OFFICE FROM THE I.T. FROM THE PARKS AND REC INTO THE CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE.

WHAT THIS IS THE ADMINISTRATIVE SERVICES MANAGER AGNES WHITE RETIRED AND WE TRANSFERRED THE DUTIES AND RESPONSIBILITIES TO IT THE CITY CLERK'S OFFICE, AND WE BROUGHT OUR -- OUR PUBLIC COMMUNICATION SPECIALIST INTO THE CITY MANAGER OFFICE.

THESE FUNDS ARE BEING TRANSFERRED FROM DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS TO FACILITATE THE CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE AND THE

CITY CLERK'S OFFICE. >> THANK YOU, MR. GEORGE.

JUST TO BE CLEAR, THIS WHOLE RESTRUCTURING -- THIS REDUCES HEAD COUNT AND SAVES THE CITY $4,000, IS THAT RIGHT?

>> THAT'S RIGHT. >> SOMETHING WE ARE LOOKING FORWARD TO DOING. ANY QUESTIONS FOR MR. GEORGE?

SEEING NONE, DO I HEAR A MOTION. >> I MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE.

>> I HEAR A MOTION AND A SECOND. ANY PUBLIC COMMENT.

NO REQUEST ON THERE. ANYONE WISHING TO SPEAK? SEEING NONE, AND ANY FURTHER COMMISSION COMMENT? SEEING NONE. CITY CLERK, PLEASE CALL THE

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ROLL. >> YES.

THAT PASSES 5-0. 6.2, AD VALOREM TAX EXEMPTION 32 NORTH 3RD STREET. MISS BACH?

[6.2 (Quasi-Judicial) AD VALOREM TAX EXEMPTION - 322 NORTH 3RD STREET]

>> YES. >> AND YES.

>> I CERTAINLY CAN. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

>> THIS IS A TAX EXEMPTION SPECIFIC TO HISTORIC DISTRICTS.

THE CITY ADOPTED AN ORDINANCE, MADE IT PART OF OUR CODE OF ORDINANCES, A PERSON OWNING A HISTORIC PROPERTY, IN IT CASE TAMMY COSACK IS HERE AS ONE OF THE OWNERS OF THE PROPERTY AND MADE APPLICATION AFTER BEING SUBSTANTIAL IMPROVEMENTS TO THEIR HOME. AND BECAUSE OF THAT, SHE MADE APPLICATION APPLICATION. IT WAS ACCEPTED.

IT WENT THROUGH THE HISTORIC DISTRICT COUNCIL AND RECOMMENDED APPROVAL AND HERE FOR YOUR APPROVAL.

THIS TAX EARNINGS APPLIES FOR TEN YEARS AND EXEMPTION THE CITY TAX FOR THAT PROPERTY FOR A PERIOD OF TEN YEARS.

AND THERE ARE RESTRICTIONS THAT GO WITH -- GO WITH THAT.

AND THAT IS RECORDED ON THE PROPERTY.

SO STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL. SO DOES THE HISTORIC.

>> THANK YOU, MISS BACH. ANY QUESTIONS? I HAVE ONE. JUST SO THE PUBLIC IS AWARE.

WHAT ARE WE TRYING TO INCENTIVIZE WITH THE TAX EXEMPTION. HISTORIC PRESERVATION.

CAN YOU DESCRIBE WHAT THIS SIN INCENTIVE MEANS AND WHY WE DO

IT? >> ENCOURAGE PEOPLE TO STEP UP AND MAINTAIN THEIR HOMES. LIKE THIS HOME WAS IN TERRIBLE CONDITION, AND TAMMY AND OTHER OWNERS OF THE PROPERTY REALLY PUT A LOT OF THEIR OWN WORK AND FUNDS INTO BRINGING THIS HOUSE BACK TO ITS ORIGINAL GRANDEUR. SO THIS IS WHAT WE ARE ENCOURAGING. ESPECIALLY SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. ANY FURTHER GUESS FOR MISS BACH.

>>. >> MOVE TO APPROVE.

>> I HEAR A MOTION. >> SECOND.

>> AND A SECOND. WE HEAR A MOTION AND A SECOND.

FIRST WE WILL GO TO PUBLIC COMMENT.

MR. JOSE MIRANDA TO COME ON DOWN.

WELCOME, SIR. >> HOW ARE YOU DOING.

JOSE MIRANDA. 16TH STREET.

LOCAL ARCHITECT. BEEN HERE 32 YEARS.

I JUST WANT TO PRAISE TAMMY COSACK FROM SAVING THIS BUILDING FROM THE GRAVE. SHE HAS DONE A LOT OF SWEAT EQUITY, BLOOD, SWEAT AND TEARS. CHIP, YOU CAN PERSONALLY ATTEST TO THAT. WE WANT TO COMMEND YOU FOR PASSING THIS RESOLUTION AS AN INCENTIVE FOR PEOPLE TO RESTORE THEIR HOMES. AS YOU KNOW HISTORIC HOMES ARE VERY EXPENSIVE TO MAINTAIN AND RESTORE.

WE SUPPORT HER EFFORTS OF GET THIS TAX EARNINGS.

THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU, SIR.

>> LET'S ALSO CALL UP MR. JAMES PASINTA.

COME ON DOWN. >> HELLO, EVERYONE.

JAMES PASETA, SOUTH 18TH STREET. I AM THE ARCHITECT AND I SIT ON HISTORIC DISTRICT COUNCIL AND I WANT TO ECHO THE SENTIMENTS OF JOSE THAT TAMMY TOOK WHAT SOME WOULD LOOK AS A PUSH DOWN START FROM NOTHING AND TURNED IT INTO SOMETHING THAT THIS CITY SHOULD BE VERY, VERY PROUD OF. AND SHE IS VERY DESERVING OF A VOTE IN FAVOR OF HER. AND SHE HAS REALLY LAID OUT A ROAD MAP FOR OTHER PEOPLE TO FOLLOW TO BRING HOMES THAT ARE DEGRADED AND DOWN UP TO SOMETHING TO BE PROUD ABOUT.

>> THANK YOU, SIR. AND THANK YOU ON YOUR SERVICE TO THE HTC AS WELL. FINALLY WE CALL UP MISS TAMMY COSACK TO THE PODIUM AS WELL.

>> MAYBE I JUST. >>> SIT DOWN -- TAMMY COSACK, 332 NORTH 3RD STREET. I WANT TO GIVE YOU A TINY BIT OF BACKGROUND AND AN ASK. I BOUGHT THE HOUSE TERMITES, CARPENTER ANTS, POWDER BEETLES AND RATS.

AND 24 INCHES BELOW STREET GRADE.

BUILT IN 1884. FELL IN DISREPAIR AND CANDIDATE FOR A DEMOLITION. IT IS FERNANDINA BEACH WORKING-CLASS LET 1800S. BUILT BY AFRICAN-AMERICANS THAT I COME ON THE TRAIN IN THE POST RECON CONSTRUCTION ERA AND MOST OF THE FAMILY BASS BURIED.MADE IT EVEN MORE IMPORTANT TO SAVE NOT ONLY THE BUILDINGS AND THE MATERIALS BUT THE CULTURAL HISTORIES THAT WERE REPRESENTED BY THIS BUILDING.

I WORK CLOSELY WITH CITY PLANNING AND BUILDING

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DEPARTMENTS. IT WASN'T ALWAYS EASY OR CHEAP.

THERE WERE BLOOD, SWEAT AND TEARS.

I BROKE A FEW TOES. BROKE TWO RO HE TATER CUFFS, I FELL OFF THE ROOF AND BROKE MY BACK IN TWO PLACES.

SEVEN YEARS AND 17 DAYS LATER I GOT MY C.O.

I INVESTED HUNDREDS THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS LOCALLY FOR MATERIALS AND LABOR. AND I DIDN'T DO THIS FOR THE SMALL MAN WHO TARRY TAX EXEMPTION GAIN WHICH IS NOTHING BASICALLY. I DID THIS TO PRESERVE AND PROTECT A SMALL SLICE OF FERNANDINA LIFE AND TO PROTECT IT FOR TEN YEARS FORWARD. THERE IS NOW A COVENANT ON MY PROPERTY THAT CAN'T BE CHANGED INSIDE AND OUT.

AS A PRECEDENT AND AN EXAMPLE FOR OTHERS GOING FORWARD.

NOW FOR THE ASK. FLORIDA STATUTES AUTHORIZED CITIES AND COUNTIES TO ADOPT THIS PROGRAM.

NASSAU COUNTY IS ONE OF A FEW COUNTIES COUNTIES IN THERE ARE THAT DO NOT HONOR THIS PROGRAM. WITH THE CITY WITH THIS PROGRAM SEVERAL TIMES. TWO PARTS OF THE ORDINANCE, THE REHAB LIKE MINE. THIS WILL BE THE FIRST STRUCTURE. IF IT GOES THROUGH.

THE SECOND IS FOR CONTRIBUTING BUILDINGS OPEN TO THE PUBLIC LIKE BUSINESSES. AND IF THIS -- IF THIS WAS A COUNTYWIDE ORDINANCE. IT WOULD INCENTIVIZE OWNERS TO MAINTAIN AND PROTECT SOME OF THE BIGGEST ASSETS AND DRAWS TO OUR COMMUNITY. OLD BUILDINGS NEED MORE THAN JUST LOVE. THEY NEED MONEY TO RESTORE AND MAINTAIN. AND WE KNOW THAT HISTORY CAN SO EASILY BE ERASED, IN A GROWING ECONOMY.

MY ASK IS FOR ONE OR MORE OF TO YOU CHAMPION THIS CALL FOR A COUNTYWIDE TAX EXEMPT ORDER NANCE THAT WILL BE INVOLVEMENT AND AWARENESS OF OUR HERITAGE AND PROTECT ONE OF THE MOST ECONOMIC ENGINES. THANK YOU, AND I AM HERE IS TO

ANSWER ANY AND ALL QUESTIONS. >> THANK YOU, MISS COSACK.

ANY QUESTIONS FOR HER? I WILL OFFER THANK YOU TO SO MUCH FORKING TO WHAT YOU DID AND I PERSONALLY CALL OUR

COMMISSIONER JOHN MARTIN. >> JOHN HAS BEEN TO THE HOUSE.

HE KNOW WHAT IS I HAVE DONE THERE.

THAT WILL BE GREAT. >> OF COURSE.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >> THANK YOU.

COMMENT FROM COMMISSIONER ROSS. >> I LIVE DOWN THE STREET FROM THIS HOUSE. AND SOMEHOW I GOT INVOLVED IN THE FALL OFF THE LADDER DEAL. [LAUGHTER] TAMMY, IT IS SORT OF UNDESCRIBABLE WHAT YOU DID.

I WATCHED IT OVER TIME. AND IT WAS JUST LIKE THIS THING COMING ALIVE. AND -- I DON'T KNOW WHY I AM GETTING CHOKED UP, BUT THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR WHAT YOU DID.

THAT'S ALL I HAVE TO SAY. >> OKAY.

ANY OTHER COMMENTS? AND I WILL GO AHEAD.

WE DO HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.

I WILL CLOSE BY SAYING I AM GLAD THAT THE CITY AT LEAST HAS THIS ORDINANCE. AND I AM GLAD WE CAN DO THIS FOR YOU MISS COSACK. FINALLY I AM GLAD YOU ARE OKAY AND ABLE TO WALK UP HERE. I WOULD NEVER HAVE GUESS $YOU BROKE YOUR BACK IN TWO PLACE. MISS BEST.

6.3, PROPOSAL APPROVAL, HUBBARD CONSTRUCTION COMPANY.

>> YES. THAT PASSES 5-0.

[6.3 PROPOSAL APPROVAL - HUBBARD CONSTRUCTION COMPANY ]

THANK YOU AGAIN.

>> ABSOLUTELY, THANK YOU, COMMISSION.

WHAT IS IN FRONT OF YOU RESOLUTION 2023-230.

THIS IS FOR THE FIRST PHASE OF STREET RESURFACING FOR THIS YEAR. WE DECIDED IT WAS BEST WITH THE ONGOING PROJECTS TO HAVE STREET RESURFACING INTO THREE PHASES.

THIS ONE THE FIRST. AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED $1 $189,409.10. STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL.

>> ANY QUESTIONS FOR MR. GLISTEN?

>> CAN YOU PUT A PICTURE UP ON THE WALL WHAT YOU ARE DOING?

>> I AM NOT PREPARED TO DO THAT. THERE IS A MAP ON YOUR AGENDA -- IN YOUR AGENDA PACKET THAT I KNOW -- YOU HAVE A FULL PACKET THAT SHOWS PHASE ONE, TWO AND THREE PLATTED OUT.

WE ARE LOOKING FOR APPROVAL FOR JUST PHASE ONE NOW DEPEND ON HOW OTHER PROJECTS PAN OUT FOR THE LATER PART OF THE YEAR.

CHANGES TO PHASE TWO AND THREE. AND WE ARE MAKING A~ APPROVAL

FOR PHASE ONE. >> MOVE TO APPROVE.

>> SECOND I HEAR THE MOTION AND A SECOND AND COMMISSIONER ROSS, AS JEREMIAH SAID, THERE IS -- IN YOUR AGENDA, THERE IS A MAP.

>> I AM FAIRLY AWARE OF THAT. I THOUGHT WE COULD PUT IT UP FOR

A LITTLE SHOW AND TELL. >> PERFECT.

A FINE IDEA. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

WITH THAT, ANY -- I HAVE NO REQUESTS TO SPEAK.

ARE THERE ANY COMMISSIONERS' COMMENTS ON THIS? SEEING NONE, WE HAVE THAT MOTION AND A SECOND.

CITY CLERK, PLEASE CALL THE ROLL.

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>> YES. THAT PASSIONS 5-0.

[6.4 PROPOSAL APPROVAL - WEATHERPROOFING TECHNOLOGIES, INC. ]

ITEM 6.4, APPROVAL WEATHERPROOFING TECHNOLOGIES.

>> IN FRONT OF YOU IS THE ROOF CONCESSION STAND FACILITY THAT MANY OF YOU ARE ALL FAMILIAR WITH.

THE ROOF ON THIS STRUCTURE IS IN NEED OF A RESTORATION.

AND WE HAVE A -- WE HAVE A PROPOSAL PROVIDED THROUGH A AAPA CONTRACT THROUGH TRIMCO, WEATHERPROOFING ASSOCIATES AND THE VICE PRESIDENT IS HERE IF YOU HAVE ANY COMMENTS, BUT STAFF

RECOMMENDS APPROVAL. >> ANY QUESTIONS FOR MR. GLISTEN? DO I HEAR A MOTION?

>> MAKE A MOTION FOR APPROVAL. >> I HEAR A MOTION AND A SECOND.

ANY COMMISSIONERS' COMMENTS? I WILL JUST SAY THANK YOU FOR YOUR WORK ON THIS. MR. CAMARA.

THANK YOU. AND EXCITED TO GO GET THIS DONE FOR THE BASH RUTH ORIGINAL. CALL THE ROLL.

>> YES. AND THAT PASSES 5-0.

[6.5 DEED OF DEDICATION - CASHEN ROAD]

ITEM 6.5. DEED OF DEDICATION, CASHEN ROAD.

MISS BACH. >> YES.

THIS IS PROPERTY OUTSIDE OF THE CITY LIMITS, CASHEN ROAD OUTSIDE OF 14TH STREET. IN THAT AREA ANNEXATION AGREEMENTS AND THINGS LIKE THAT. IN THIS CASE, THE PROPERTY OWNER WANTS TO GIVE THE CITY 1.2 ACRES OF LAND.

IT IS LAND THAT IS NOT DEVELOPER, BUT THEY DO PAY TAXES ON IT. AND SO THIS DEED OF DEDICATION IS -- IT ALSO INCLUDES A DEED RESTRICTION THAT THE CITY WILL HOLD THIS PROPERTY IN CONSERVATION.

>> OF COURSE. MISS BACH, AS I ASK THIS QUESTION, I WANT TO, OF COURSE, THANK THESE PROPERTY OWNERS FOR MAKING SUCH A GENEROUS GIFT TO THE CITY.

SOMETHING VERY EXCITING AND VERY GOOD THEY ARE DOING THIS MY QUESTION IS, CAN THE CITY OWN LAND OUTSIDE THE CITY LIMITS?

>> YES. >> THAT SEEMS FINE.

PERFECT. IF IT IS ABOVE BOARD, WE ARE READY TO GO. ANY COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS FOR MISS BACH? ALL RIGHT.

SEEING NONE, I DO HEAR A MOTION? >> MOVE TO APPROVE.

>> SECOND. >> I HEARD THAT MOTION AND SECOND. I HEAR NO REQUESTS TO SPEAK.

ANY COMMISSIONERS' DISCUSSION? SEEING NONE, I WILL ONCE AGAIN THANK THIS PROPERTY OWNER FOR THEIR DONATIONS OF 1.26 ACRES TO THE CONSERVATION BUCKET. CALL THE ROLL, MISS BEST.

[6.6 DOWNTOWN REVITALIZATION CONCEPTUAL DESIGN - KIMLEY HORN AND ASSOCIATES PROPOSAL]

PROPOSAL. >> RESOLUTION 2023-233.

>> YES. PASSES -0.

SECOND BIGGEST PROJECTS THIS YEAR.

THE FIRST WAS THE WATERFRONT AND NOW THE DESIGN FOR DOWNTOWN REVITALIZATION. STREETSCAPE, SIDEWALKS, LANDSCAPE, LIGHTING, YOU KNOW THINGS -- PEDESTRIAN ACCESSES, BENCHES, ALL THIS ALL THAT KINDS OF STUFF.

AND WE HAVE AING FROM FROM KIMLEY-HORN & ASSOCIATES OFF OUR CC&A LIST. THEY HAVE THE BEST EXPERIENCE WITH THIS KIND 6 DEVELOPMENT AND REVITALIZATION IN FLORIDA.

THEY PROVIDED A PROPOSAL FOR $195,000 TO DO THIS DESIGN.

AND STAFF IS RECOMMENDING APPROVAL WITH A TOTAL BUDGET FOR CONSULTING SERVICES OF $220,000. ANY QUESTIONS? ALL RIGHT, SEEING NONE. DO I HEAR A MOTION?

>> I HEARD A MOTION AND A SECOND.

ANY COMMISSIONER DISCUSSION ON THIS?

VICE-MAYOR STURGES. >> THANK YOU, MAYOR.

I WANT TO SAY THIS IS AWESOME THAT WE ARE GETTING STARTED ON A REVITALIZATION OF THE DOWNTOWN. AND I AM GLAD TO SEE WE ARE IN THE PLANS. I AM GLAD TO SEE WE ARE MOVING FORWARD AND WE HAVE FUNDS IN NEXT YEAR'S BUDGET TO START SOME OF THESE RENOVATIONS, CORRECT, CHARLIE?

>> CORRECT. >> NOTHING ELSE I NEED TO SAY OTHER THAN I AM GLAD WE STARTED AND HOPEFULLY COME UP WITH THE REST OF THE FUNDS TO DO ALL OF DOWNTOWN.

THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

CERTAINLY IS A GREAT PROJECT. WE HAD THAT MOTION AND A SECOND.

WE DID? >> YES.

>> PERFECT. MISS BEST.

> YES. AND THAT PASSES 5-0.

[6.7 PROPOSAL APPROVAL - DECKARD TECHNOLOGIES INC]

6.7. PROPOSAL APPROVAL, DECKER TECHNOLOGIES, INC. MR. GEORGE.

>> RESCUES 2023-234, TO RENEW THE CONTRACT WITH DECKARD TECHNOLOGY. SHORT-TERM RENTAL COMPLIANCE CONSULTANT. THEY GO AROUND AND CHECK WHO IS IN COMPLIANCE AND WHO IS NOT. THEY SEND LETTERS IF THEY ARE

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NO COMPLIEPT COMPLIEPT AND REPORT BACK STAFF IF THEY DO NOT COME IN COMPLIANCE.

SOMETHING THAT HAS BEEN WORKING VERY WELL.

AND SUMMARY REPORT OF WHAT IS FOUND AND RESULTS OF THAT.

SO IT IS A GOOD -- A GOOD PARTNERSHIP WITH THIS FIRM TO GET THAT INVENTORY UNDER CONTROL.

>> THANK YOU, MR. GEORGE. ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THIS FOR MR. GEORGE? YOU KNOW, THIS IS AN INTERESTING TOPIC. I KNOW WE HAD A CONVERSATION ABOUT THIS. WHY IS THIS SO HARD TO DO AND WHY DO WE NEED TO BRING THESE PEOPLE IN.

I THINK IT IS INTERESTING HOW THEY DO IT.

>> IN SOME CASES, A MATTER OF PEOPLE WHO ARE DOING -- IN VIOLATION OF SHORT-TERM INVENTORY OR NOT PUBLICIZING THAT THEY ARE DOING SHORT-TERM RENTALS.

THIS FIRM USES UNIQUE WAYS TO GET INSIDE AND FIGURE OUT WHAT THEY ARE DOING AND WHAT THEY ARE NOT DOING.

MAKING PHONE CALLS FOR A SHORT-TERM RENTAL AND SEE IF SOMEBODY SAYS WE DO THAT AND CHECK TO SEE IF THEY HAVE A LICENSE. THEY GET COMPLAINTS FROM THE CITIZENS ABOUT IT AND CHECK THAT OUT AND MOVE FORWARD WITH NOTIFICATIONS OR COMPLIANCE AND MORE FORWARD WITH OUR CODE

COMPLIANCE STAFF. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

DO I AIR HA SECOND. >> MOTION TO APPROVE.

>> SECOND. >> I SEE NO CITIZEN REQUEST TO SPEAK. ANYBODY WANT TO TALK? SEEING NONE, ANY -- CITY CLERK, PLEASE CALL THE ROLL.

>> YES. AND THAT PASSES 5-0.

[6.8 CHANGE ORDER NO. 1 - KUDZUE 3 TRUCKING & PAVING]

6.8. CHANGE ORDER NUMBER ONE KUDZUE 3

TRUCKING AND PAVING. >> 2023-235 WAS A RESOLUTION.

IT WAS OUTSIDE THE AIRPORT. SEVERAL MONTHS AGO THE GENERAL CONTRACTOR WITH THE PAVING WORK IN THAT SITE ON HIS CONTRACT.

HE STARTED ASKING FOR INCREASES IN THE PRICE DUE TO MATERIALS AND LOGISTICS. SO WE TOOK THAT WORK OFF HIS CONTRACT. AND HE GAVE IT TO KUDZUE, WHO IS -- THEY ARE OUR LOCAL -- OUR LOCAL STREET RESURFACING PEOPLE THAT WE HAVE USED FOR SEVERAL YEARS.

THEY WENT OUT AND DID THE WORK. THEY FOUND THAT THE BASE COURSE THAT WAS PUT IN BY THE GENERAL CONTRACTOR WAS NOT -- WAS NOT SUFFICIENT. SO THEY HAD TO COME IN AND PUT NEW BASE COURTS IN THAT CAUSES THE INCREASE OF THE CHANGE ORDER NO KUDZUE AND TAKING THE MONEY FROM PRESIDENT CHANGE ORDER OUT OF THE GENERAL FROM THE FIRE STATION.

NOT A BUDGET HIT, TRANSFERRING THAT MONEY FROM THE GENERAL CONTRACTOR WHO DIDN'T PERFORM LIKE HE SHOULD HAVE AND COVERING

THE COST THAT WAS PUT IN. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

JUST A QUESTION. WHERE ARE WE COMPARED TO OUR

ORIGINAL BUDGET? >> RIGHT NOW $0,000 BELOW

BUDGET. >> $30,000 UNDER BUDGET? GREAT NEWS ON THIS FIRE STATION. LAST TIME WE TALKED JANUARY

COMPLETION DATE. >> STILL SHOOTING FOR THAT.

>> SOUNDS LIKE A PLAN. I DO AIR HA MOTION.

>> MOTION AND A SECOND. ANY COMMISSIONER DISCUSSION OR PUBLIC DISCUSSION? ALL RIGHT, SEEING NONE, CITY

CLERK, PLEASE CALL THE ROLL. >> YES.

> YES. >> YES.

AND THAT PASSES 5-0. THANK YOU, MR. GEORGE.

[6.9 LEASE AMENDMENT - AIRPORT FIXED BASE OPERATOR]

ITEM 6.9, LEASE AMOUNT, AIRPORT FIXED BASE OPERATOR.

CALL UP MISS BACH. >> THIS IS -- WE HAVE A FIXED-BASED OPERATOR OCCUPYING SPACE IN THE AIRPORT TERMINAL BUILDING. THEY SHARE SPACE WITH THE CITY AIRPORT MANAGER AND ADMINISTRATIVE OFFICES.

THIS LEASE MEMORIALIZES WHAT WE HAVE BEEN DOING SINCE THE TERMINAL BUILDING WAS UNDER CONSTRUCTION.

THIS FIXED BASED OPERATOR PARTICIPATED WITH THE CITY IN FINANCING THE COST OF THE CONSTRUCTION OF THE TERRORISM MALL IN. THIS IS JUST, LIKE I SAID, MEMORIALIZING THE SPACE. WE ARE COLLECT THE RENT IN THIS AIM AGREEMENT. AND THERE WILL BE EXTRA AREA THAT WAS OCCUPIED BY THECITY DURING CONSTRUCTION, SOME GROUND AREA. NOTHING NEW.

NOTHING HAS CHANGED. STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL.

>> ANY QUESTIONS FOR MISS BACH. SEEING NONE, DO I HEAR A MOTION?

>> WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.

ANY COMMISSIONER DISCUSSION? ALL RIGHT, SEEING NONE.

THANK YOU, MISS BAJH. MISS BEST CALL THE ROLL.

[7.1 HISTORIC STREETSCAPE ELEMENTS]

7.1, ORDINANCES SECOND READING. HISTORIC STREETSCAPE ORDINANCE MISS BACH. CODE SECTION 2023-49, SECTION

>> YES. 5-1.

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70-11, PROTECTION MAINTENANCE AND PRESERVATION OF HISTORIC STREETSCAPE ELEMENT. PLEASE OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING.

>> THE PUBLIC HEARING IS OPEN. ANYONE WANT TO SPEAK ON HISTORIC STREETSCAPE ELEMENTS? MA'AM, I AM GLAD WE OPENED THE PUBLIC HEARING. COME ON DOWN.

>> JOAN CORY, 408 BEACH STREET. I -- MY -- MY COMMENT ON THIS HAS TO DO WITH -- WITH ITEM 6.6, THE DOWNTOWN REVITALIZATION CONCEPTUAL DESIGN. I WAS EXPECTING TO HEAR -- SEE SOME KIND OF PRESENTATION OF WHAT -- WHAT FOLKS THINK NEEDS TO BE REMOVED AND WHAT NEEDS TO BE REPLACED AND WHETHER THIS IS A TECHNICAL IDEA OR MAYBE AN AESTHETIC IDEA.

ANYHOW, SO WHEN IT COMES TO THIS, I AM VERY MUCH IN FAVOR OF NUMBER 7.1, THE HISTORIC STREETSCAPE ELEMENTS.

IS THERE SOME WAY THESE TWO PROJECTS CAN CAN BE ASSOCIATED WITH EACH OTHER? AND CAN THINGS BE PUT UP HERE IN THIS ROOM OR -- OR IN THE NEWSPAPER OR SOME PLACE SO THE PUBLIC AT LARGE CAN SEE WHAT FOLKS THINKS NEED TO BE DONE.

THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMENTS ON THIS. I WOULD JUST LIKE TO SAY WE ARE WORKING HAND IN HAND. THIS REVITALIZATION.

$200,000 AUTHORIZED .THIS ORDINANCE WILL HELP GUIDE THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION ORDINANCE WILL HELP GUIDE HOW THAT $ 00 200,000 WILL BE SPENT IN A WAY THAT WILL BENEFIT OUR HISTORY IN FERNANDINA.

I WILL BE REMISS IF NOT GO TO COMMISSIONER ROSS TO DISCUSS

THIS. >> IN RESPONSE TO YOUR QUESTION, THE REVITALIZATION IS REALLY FIXING WHAT IS ALREADY THERE.

AND I DON'T THINK THERE IS REALLY MUCH AT LEAST AT THIS POINT CHANGE IN WHAT IS ALREADY THERE EXCEPT THAT THE LIGHTS DON'T WORK ANYMORE BECAUSE THEY ARE SO OLD.

THEY ARE OUT-OF-DATE. YOU EXPECT REPLACE THEM AND SO ON. SO THEY WILL BE CHANGED.

BUT I THINK THE IDEA -- AND THERE IS PUBLIC COMMENT ALONG THE WAY AND THERE WILL BE MEETINGS AS THIS IS FLESHED OUT.

BUT THE IDEA IS NOT TO RADICALLY CHANGE WHAT WORKS AND HAS WORKED FOR MORE THAN 30 YEARS. AND SO -- A LOT OF PLACES THAT BRICKS ARE FALLING APART AND THE TREES -- TREES NEED HELP AND OTHERS NEED HELP. REALLY TO REDO WHAT IS THERE.

AND IF YOU DO THAT. AND IT IS 12 PAGES OF WHAT KIMLEY-HORN IS GOING TO DO. PRETTY EXTENSIVE.

>> WHERE ARE THESE 12 PAGES? >> I AM GOING TO HAVE OUR CITY ATTORNEY WILL E-MAIL YOU THE FULL -- DO YOU HAVE HER E-MAIL,

MISS BACH. >> WE WILL GET IT.

>> I HAVE IT. MISS JOAN, IF YOU COME TO THE OFFICE TOMORROW, I WILL HAVE EVERYTHING PRINTED FOR YOU.

>> THANKS. >> YES.

>> WE WOULD LOVE TO GIVE YOU A KEEP OF THAT, MISS JONES.

>> THAT IS BASICALLY WHAT IS HAPPENING.

AND THESE TWO THINGS GO HAND IN HAND.

WITH THE HISTORIC THING IS MEANS THAT THE HEXAGONAL PAVERS WILL BE PRESERVED. GRANITE WILL BE PRESERVED AND THE MARKERS WILL BE PRESERVED AND BASICALLY WHAT THIS DOES.

THEY DO WORK TOGETHER. >> THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU, MISS JOAN. ECELLENT COMMENT.

ANY OTHER PUBLIC COMMENT? SEEING NONE, THE PUBLIC HEARING IS CLOSED. QUICK NOW HEAR A MOTION.

>> WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.

ANY COMMISSIONER DISCUSSION ON IS THIS? AND JUST TO REITERATE, WHAT MAKES THIS ONE DIFFERENT WHAT WE ARE DOING SPECIFICALLY HERE NOT ANY FUNDING ASSOCIATED WITH THIS. THIS IS SAYING IN ADDITION TO WHAT MR. ROSS IDENTIFIED HEXAGONAL PAVERS, GRANITE, THE -- THERE IS OTHER THINGS IN THERE AS WELL THAT JUST PRESERVES AND WE IDENTIFY SOME OF THE HISTORIC STREETSCAPE THAT IS IMPORTANT TO MAKE FERNANDINA A SPECIAL PLACE AND SUBMITS THAT. WHEN I SAY -- CEMENT, HEXAGONAL PAVERS. I DON'T MEAN CEMENT.

MISS BEST. >> YES.

[7.2 VOLUNTARY ANNEXATION - 1912 AND 1888 DRURY ROAD]

AND THAT PASSES 5-0. ITEM 7.2, VOLUNTARY ANNEXATION 1912 AND 1888 DRURY ROAD. MISS BAACH.

>> 2023-50, ANNEXING APPROXIMATELY .49 ACRES OF LAND 12912 AND 1888 DRURY ROAD CONTIGUOUS TO CITY LIMITS, PROVIDE FORKING SEVERABILITY AND PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.

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>>THE PUBLIC HEARING IS OPEN. ANYBODY WOULD LIKE TO BREAK ON DRURY ROAD. THE PUBLIC HEARING IS CLOSED.

DO I A HEAR A MOTION. >> MOTION TO APPROVE.

>> SECONDS. >> MOTION AND A SECOND.

ANY COMMISSIONER DISCUSSION? COMMISSIONER ROSS?

>> I WILL OPPOSE THIS AS I DID AT THE ORIGINAL HEARING.

I THINK THE FISCAL IMPACTS OF THIS HAS NOT THOROUGHLY BEEN ANALYZED. PING THAT WE CONTINUE TO ANNEX WITHOUT LOOKING AT WHAT THE MAGNITUDE OF THIS IS GOING TO DO ON THE QUALITY OF LIFE HERE SO I WILL OPPOSE THIS AS I DID AT THE

FIRST HEARING. >> YOU HAVE A REQUEST TO SPEAK, MISS PRINCE. WOULD YOU LIKE TO? ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU. SEEING NONE.

ANY OTHER REQUESTS FOR COMMENT H HERE? I HAVE -- I HAVE NO OTHER REQUESTS TO SPEAK. SO THEREFORE I WILL CALL THE VOTE.

>>. >> YES.

THAT PASSES 4-HEADING ON DOWN. ITEM .3, FUTURE LAND USE ASSIGNMENT. MISS BACH.

[7.3 FUTURE LAND USE MAP ASSIGNMENT - 1912 AND 1888 DRURY ROAD]

>> ORDINANCE 2023-51, ASSIGNING MEDIUM DENSITY RESIDENTIAL FOR 0.94 ACRES OF LAND LOCATED 1912 AND 1888 DRURY ROAD PROVIDING FOR SEVERALABILITY AND PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE.

PLEASE OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING. >> THE PUBLIC HEARING IS OPEN.

WOULD ANYONE LIKE TO SPEAK. SEEING NONE, THE PUBLIC HEARING IS CLOSED. DO I HEAR A MOTION?

>> I HEAR A MOTION AND A SECOND. ANY DISCUSSION?

COMMISSIONER ROSS. >> AS I DID AT THE FIRST HEARING, I WILL NOT VOTE FOR THIS.

I BELIEVE IT IS NOT CONSISTENT WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.

I POINTED OUT ALL THE REASONS IN THE FIRST HEARING.

THAT'S IT. >> ALL RIGHT.

ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION ON THIS? SEEING NONE.

CITY CLERK, PLEASE CALL THE ROLL.

ITEM 7.4, ZONING MAP ASSIGNMENT. 1912 AND 1888 DRURY ROAD.

[7.4 ZONING MAP ASSIGNMENT - 1912 AND 1888 DRURY ROAD]

>> YES. THAT PASSES 4-1.

MISS BACH. >> ORDINANCE 2023-52, ASSIGNING A ZONING MAP CATEGORY OF MEDIUM DENSITY RESIDENTIAL FOR PROPERTY 1912 AND 1888 DRURY ROAD TOTALING APPROXIMATELY 0.94 ACRES OF LANDS PROVIDING FOR SEVERALABILITY AND PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE. PLEASE OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING.

>> THE PUBLIC HEARING IS OPEN. ANYONE LIKE TO SPEAK ON 7.4? SEEING NONE. THE PUBLIC HEARING IS CLOSED.

DO I HEAR A MOTION. >> MOTION.

>> SECOND. >> MOTION AND A SECOND, ANY DISCUSSION? COMMISSIONER ROSS.

>> AS I ARTICULATED IN THE FIRST HEARING, I OPPOSE THIS.

AS THE REASONS I ARTICULATED IN THE FIRST MEETING.

WE WILL JUST MOVE ON TO THE VOTE.

>> THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER ROSS. WITH NO FURTHER DISCUSSION.

MISS BEST, PLEASE CALL THE ROLL. >> YES.

THAT PASSES 4-1. HEADED ON DOWN 7.5 VOLUNTARY ANNEXATION, SOUTH 14TH AND AND 15TH STREET.

[7.5 VOLUNTARY ANNEXATION - S. 14TH AND S. 15TH STREET ]

>> ORDINANCE 2023-53 ANNEXING APPROXIMATELY 3.47 ACRES OF LAND LOCATED ON SOUTH 14TH AND SOUTH 15TH STREET CONTIGUOUS TO THE CITY LIMITS PROVIDING FOR SEVERALABILITY AND PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE. PLEASE OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING.

>> THE PUBLIC HEARING IS OPEN. AS ALWAYS, WE WELCOME ALL OPPORTUNITIES FOR COMMENTS. WE HOPE EVERYBODY HAS AN OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK. TO SPEAK TONIGHT AS YOU HAVE BEEN DOING ALL NNIGHT MAKE SURE YOU FILL OUT A REQUEST TO SPEAK FORM. WE WILL HEAR EVERYONE TONIGHT.

I WILL START WITH REQUEST TO SPEAK THAT I HAVE RECEIVED ON THIS ISSUE. AND WE WILL START WITH CITY RESIDENTS FIRST AND THEN MOVE ON TO EVERYBODY WHO WANTS TO SPEAK AT ALL. SO WE WILL GO WITH MR. JACK STUMP. PLEASE COME DOWN TO THE PODIUM.

WELCOME, SIR. >> JACK STUMP, OHMSTEAD LANE.

I QUESTION WHY THE OWNER OF SOUTH OF NECTARINE AND BETWEEN 14TH AND 15TH STREET REQUESTED ANNEXATION TO VOLUNTEER TO PAY CITY TAXES WITHOUT A SPECIFIC DEVELOPMENT PLAN.

I MEAN THERE HAS TO BE SOME BENEFIT REQUESTING IT AT THIS TIME. THE PROPERTY CURRENTLY IN THE COUNTY AND ZONED COMMERCIAL IS PROBABLY UNLIKELY TO BE USED FOR

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COMMERCIAL. WITH THE RECENT PASSAGE OF THE LIVE LOCAL ACT WHICH BECAME EFFECTIVE IN THE FIRST OF JULY FROM FIVE MONTHS AGO. THIS COULD EASILY BE TURNED INTO RESIDENTIAL AND COULD BE 120-PLUS UNITS LOCATED THERE.

THAT COULD MAKE A SIGNIFICANT BENEFIT FOR THE VALUE OF THE PROPERTY TO THE OWNER. BUT IT COMES AT A SIGNIFICANT RISK AND COST TO MANY OF THE RESIDENTS THAT YOU ARE ELECTED TO REPRESENT AND SUPPORT. MAYOR BEAN, WHEN YOU RAN FOR THE COMMISSION YOU REPEATEDLY SAID YOU WOULD NOT APPROVE IN THE CHANGE OF THE AMELIA PARK AND NORTH OF THE SHOPPING CENTER.

BECAUSE YOU DIDN'T WANT TO SEE THE TREES DESTROYED IN THERE.

THAT WAS 17 UNITS ON FOUR ACRES. HERE WE ARE TALKING AS MANY AS 120 UNITS ON 3.3.5 ACRES. CERTAINLY A LOT MORE TREES CAN BE LOST AND I HOPE YOU ARE CONSISTENT AND WANT TO SUPPORT AS MAINTAINING AS MANY TREES. BUT EVEN WORSE THAN THE TREE LOSS IS THE RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT OF UP TO 120 UNITS IN THE PROPERTY WILL CREATE TREMENDOUS TRAFFIC ISSUES NOT ONLY ON 14TH STREET BUT ON 15TH STREET.

AND MANY OF THE PEOPLE THAT RESIDE THERE IF THEY BECOME RESIDENTIAL, PEOPLE RESIDE THERE WILL BE COMING OUT 15TH AND GO SOUTH AND EAST GO DOWN EAST ON PARK AVENUE AND COME OUT AT THE LIGHT. ALREADY AN ISSUE IF YOU WANT TO GO LEFT OF TWO LANES OF THE 45-MILE-PER-HOUR STREET.

UNLIKELY THAT -- THE COUNTY ROAD.

UNLIKELY THAT THE COUNTY WILL PUT TRAFFIC LIGHTS ON MORE FREQUENTLY ON THAT STREET. YOU HAVE THAT ISSUE CURRENTLY WITH NECTARINE WHEN THE TRAFFIC COMES OUT TO THE HOSPITAL AND CAN'T MAKE A LEFT ACROSS TWO LANES.

THEY COME DOWN 15TH. AND THAT WILL HAPPEN MORE.

AND HAVE CONGESTION ON PARK AVENUE.

YOU WILL HAVE IT AS PEOPLE WHO WANT TO HEAD EAST WILL COME ACROSS NEIGHBORS -- NORTH PARK AND NEIGHBORS STREET OR DOWN TO PARK AVENUE. WILL LEAD TO ADDITIONAL PROBLEMS WITH TRAFFIC. AND AMELIA PARK WHERE I RESIDE WEREN'T DESIGNED TO HANDLE THE LEVEL OF TRAFFIC.

MOST STREETS ARE TWO LANES AND WHEN THE PEOPLE ARE LEGALLY PARKED ON SOME OF THE STREETS, IT IS HARD TO GET TWO CARS BY WITHOUT ONE SHOPPING. THIS WILL POSE A TREMENDOUS PROBLEM FOR THAT -- FOR PEOPLE WHO LIVE IN AMELIA PARK.

ONE OF OTHER THINGS THAT I WANTED TO BRING UP THAT THE PROBLEM COULD BE EVEN MUCH WORSE.

YOU HAVE AN EQUAL-SIZED LOT JUST NORTH OF AMELIA PARK AND JUST SOUTH OF WHERE THIS PARTICULAR ACREAGE IS YOU ARE TALKING OF POTENTIALLY ANNEXING. THAT, TOO, UNDER THE LIVE LOCAL ACT COULD ALREADY BE BUILT OUT AS RESIDENTIAL.

AND THERE IS ONE MORE PARCEL RIGHT IN BETWEEN THAT COULD BE BUILT OUT. WE COULD BE TALKING 300, 400

HOMES IN THERE. >> THANK YOU.

THANK YOU FOR BEING WITH US TONIGHT.

>> CAN I ASK A QUESTION? >> GO AHEAD, COMMISSIONER ROSS.

>> THE BASIS OF YOUR TESTIMONY FOR THE TRAFFIC IS BASED ON YOU USING THOSE ROADS ON A DAILY BASIS BECAUSE YOU LIVE IN THAT

AREA? >> I LIVE THIS IN THAT AREA.

AND I SEE THE TRAFFIC ROUTINELY COME THROUGH THERE.

>> ON YOUR OWN PERSONAL USE OF THAT.

>> MY OWN PERSONAL USE. AND WITNESSING IT ON A DAILY

BASIS. >> THANK YOU SO MUCH.

>> THANK YOU, SIR. ALL RIGHT, WE HAVE MYSTERY I--

MISS NILL TERESA PRINCE. >> IF IT PLEASES THE COMMISSION, I WILL WAIT UNTIL THE END -- I'M HERE FOR THE APPLICANT, TERESA

PRINCE, 303 CENTER STREET. >> THANK YOU, MISS PRINCE.

>> INVITE TYNA CHRISNER TO THE PODIUM.

WELCOME, MISS CHRISNER. >> I HOPE EVERYBODY HAS A VERY, VERY CHRISTMAS AND I I AM GLAD THAT MISS PRINCE WILL SPEAK AFTER ME BECAUSE THIS WILL BE ONE OF THE QUESTIONS.

TYNA CHRISNER. I NOTICE THIS WHOLE IS FOR DARIUS PROPERTY LIMITED. I CAN FORWARD THIS TO YOU ON SUN BIZ. IT IS A REJECTED FILING.

SO PROPERTY IS NOT A REGISTERED COMPANY AS FAR AS I CAN SEE IN THE UNITED STATES. THERE IS A DARIUS PROPERTY LIMITED CORPORATION THAT WAS AFTERWARDS FILED FOR AND APPROVED, BUT NONE OF THIS PAPERWORK IS FOR DARIUS PROPERTY LIMITED CORPORATION. IT WAS FOR DARIUS PROPERTY LIMITED. I AM WONDER GOING THIS IS -- ARE THEY DOING THIS ANNEXATION UNDER THIS BEING A CANADIAN COMPANY? OR IS THIS A FLORIDA REGISTERED COMPANY? AND THAT'S ALL I HAVE TO ASK. THANK YOU.

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>> WE INVITE MISS SHEILA COKIE TO THE PODIUM.

>> SHEILA COKIE, 1523 INAT THIS GO STREET, FERNANDINA BEACH.

I WOULD ASK THAT WE CONSIDER NOT EVERYTHING THAT CAN BE ANNEXED BE ANNEXED. I THINK THERE ARE OPPORTUNITIES WHEN IT ABSOLUTELY MAKES SENSE. I DON'T THINK THAT WHAT WE WOULD RECEIVE IN WAY OF AN INCREASE OF THE TAX BASE WILL OFFSET WHAT HAD THE USAGE AND THE TAXING WOULD BE ON OUR RESOURCES AND OUR -- AND OUR INFRASTRUCTURE. THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU, MISS COKIE. INVITE SAND ECONOMY PERRY TO THE

PODIUM. >> ANNEXATIONS.

THERE ARE TOO MANY OF THEM. AND I WOULD LIKE TO STATE THAT THE LOT 8 THAT IS PART OF THIS PROPOSED ANNEXATION WAS ALREADY SUBMITTED TO THE COUNTY BACK IN MAY AND APPROVED.

AND IT WAS APPROVED BY THE COUNTY FOR A SITE ENGINEERING PLAN CALLED THE 15TH STREET SHOPS.

THAT WAS NOT DISCLOSED BEFORE THE PLANNING ADVISORY BOARD IN OCTOBER, ALTHOUGH ONE OF THE MEMBERS OF THE BOARD, MR. GILLETTE, HAS FULL KNOWLEDGE BECAUSE HE SIGNED THE SITE ENGINEERING PLAN. I UNDERSTAND THE PROPERTIES CHANGED HAND, BUT I THINK THERE WAS A VIOLATION OF -- OF NONDISCLOSURE THERE. ALSO, THE VOLUNTARY ANNEXATION AGREEMENT THAT I REQUESTED WITH THE CITY AND HAVE LOOKED AT, THEY ARE BEING FIELD AT THE COUNTY CLERK'S OFFICE, BUT NOT BEING FIELD -- AND THIS WAS ALSO MENTIONED AT THE TAME PAB MENTION. THEY ARE NOT AS A TITLE, DEED OR RECORD. ANY PROPERTY OWNERS THAT COME IN TRY TO -- THE PROPERTY WAS TRANS OFFICERED AFTER THE ANNEXATION HAVE NO KNOWLEDGE OF THE ANNEXATION WHEN IT BECOMES CONGRUOUS WITH US TO THE CITY. YOU HAVE A CASE TMISS BACH SENT ME IN 1998 THAT REPRESENTS THE PALMS OF AMELIA IS SOUTH OF THE PROPERTY WHERE THE SHOPPES OF AMELIA WAS PROPOSED AND LED TO LENGTHY INVESTIGATION. THE TYPE OF PROCESS THAT TOOK PLACE SHOULDN'T BE HAPPENING. THE ANNEXATION AGREEMENT SIGNED IN 1998. IT WAS NOT ANNEXED IN UNTIL 2013, ALTHOUGH IT CAME CONGRUOUS TO THE CITY LIMITS IN 200.

I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW WHY THERE IS A SEVEN-YEAR WAIT AND THE COURT IN THIS DECISION MENTIONED THE SAME THING.

YOU KNOW, THE ANNEXATION PROCEDURE OF THE CITY IS HIGHLY QUESTIONABLE AND I THINK YOU READILY NEED TO MAKE AN IMPACT ON THE ENTIRE ITEM AND CITY RESIDENTS ALIKE.

AND WITH ALL THE INCREASE IN DENSITY.

AND MAINLY I HAVE CONCERNS ABOUT THE PROCEDURAL VIOLATIONS I JUST

MENTIONED. >> THANK YOU, MISS CAREY.

ANYONE ELSE WITH A REQUEST TO SPEAK ON THIS.

ANYONE ELSE TO HAVE THEIR VOICE HEARD.

MR. JACK EMBER, COME ON DOWN. >> JACK EMBER, 1003 BROOM STREET, FERNANDINA BEACH. MR. BEAN, COMMISSIONERS, ABOUT FOUR AND A HALF YEARS AGO AT THIS VERY PODIUM, A WELL-RESPECTED MEMBER OF THE COMMUNITY SPOKE AND SHE SAID QUITE BRIEFLY, CAN'T Y'ALL JUST DO A MORATORIUM? YOU ARE RUINING THE ISLAND. AND THEN SHE SAID, THANK YOU, Y'ALL. I LOVE Y'ALL AND SHE LEFT.

THIS WAS THE UNRECORDED MATRIARCH OF AMELIA ISLAND OF FERNANDINA BEACH, MRS. BEAN, MRS. BRADLEY BEAN'S GRANDMOTHER.

AND I JUST WANT Y'ALL TO THINK OF YOUR LEGACY.

WHAT ARE YOU LEAVING THIS ISLAND? ARE YOU LEAVING IT BETTER THAN WHEN YOU CAME IN? OR ARE YOU RUINING THE ISLAND? THANK YOU.

>> ALL RIGHT. ANYONE ELSE WHO WISHES TO SPEAK? COME ON DOWN, SIR. COME ON UP.

>> GOOD EVENING. I AM PETER THIELAR, 759

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NEIGHBORS STREET IN AMELIA PARK. I WENT BACK AND WATCH YOUR MEETING FROM THE 29TH AND ALL OF THIS HAS CAUGHT SOME OF OUR NEIGHBORS BY SURPRISE. WE WEREN'T AWARE WHAT WAS TAKING PLACE. I WOULD ASK YOU TO FIND OUT IF THERE IS A WAY TO PUBLISH THE INTENTIONS OF THIS PROPERTY.

WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO SEE IF WE ARE VOTING ON ANNEXATION, WHY AREN'T WE VOTING ON AN ENTIRE PACKAGE WHAT YOU ARE GOING TO DO TO US IF YOU ARE BRINGING IN APARTMENTS LIKE WE HAVE HEARD THAT YOU ARE GOING TO DO. AND THE OTHER THING THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL IS IF SOMEBODY HAD A STRATEGY OR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, AS MR. ROSS SAID, WHAT IS YOUR STRATEGY AND COMPREHENSIVE PLAN FOR 15TH STREET? THAT NEIGHBORHOOD, AMELIA PARK, WHEN I MOVED IN, AND I OF RESEARCHED IT, IT.

HE SPECIFICALLY SAID IT WAS DESIGNED NOT TO HAVE A THOROUGHFARE THROUGH THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

EVERY STREET, YOU HAVE TO STOP, MAKE A LEFT TURN, RIGHT TURN.

YOU CAN NOT DRIVE STRAIGHT THROUGH AMELIA PARK FROM ANY DIRECTION. AND IT IS BELT THAT WAY FOR A REASON. IT WAS MEANT TO BE A P.U.D.

MEANT TO BE A NEIGHBORHOOD. PEOPLE WERE SUPPOSED TO WALK.

WALK THEIR DOGS. PARK ON THE STREET.

KIDS PLAY, WHATEVER. IF YOU LOOK ON 15TH STREET, THE TRAFFIC THAT IS ON THERE, YOU ARE GOING TO SEE PEOPLE WALKING.

WALKING WITH DOGS. YOU WILL SEE GOLF CARTS.

YOU WILL SEE BICYCLES AND SEE CARS.

WHEN YOU BRING IN -- I DON'T KNOW WHAT YOUR TRAFFIC STUDY DID. I ASSUME SOMEBODY DID A TRAFFIC STUDY FOR PLANNING THIS. WHAT IS THE IMPACT OF 200 TO 3,000 AUTOMOBILES IN A CONSOLIDATED AREA THAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT ON AN ACRE OR TWO ACRES OF LAND.

THE ONLY EGRESS IS 14TH WITH NO LIGHTS.

SO THE ONLY EGRESS IS GOING TO BE 15TH.

AND NO PLAN FOR HOW YOU ARE GOING TO HANDLE THAT.

I DON'T SEE HOW ANYTHING THIS ROOM CAN VOTE YES TO THIS WITHOUT THE IMPACT OF THE PEOPLE IN AMELIA PARK AND COASTAL OAKS AND PEOPLE WHO USE THAT ROAD. TWO-LANE ROAD NOT WEED ENOUGH TO ACCOMMODATE WHAT YOU ARE PLANNING FOR.

YOU HAVE TO DO MAJOR WORK. SIDEWALKS.

BIKE PLAN. YOU HAVE TO HAVE A PLAN AND I HAVEN'T BEEN ABLE TO FIND THAT ON YOUR WEB SITE.

>> CAN I ASK A QUESTION? >> IF GO AHEAD, COMMISSIONER

CORRECT? >> YES, SIR, NABORS STREET.

>> ALL RIGHT. MISS PRINCE, WOULD YOU LIKE TO GO? WELCOME, MISS PRINCE.

>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. GOOD EVENING, MR. MAYOR AND CITY COMMISSIONERS .TERESA PRINCE, CENTER STREET.

FERNANDINA BEACH, FLORIDA. FORGIVE ME, I SAY THIS EVERY TIME. I JUST MOVED AND I HAVE TO THINK OF MY ADDRESS EVERY SINGLE TIME. ONE, I HAVE TO THANK MISS CHRIS HADNER OF ASKING THE QUESTION THAT I KNOW THE ANSWER TO WHICH IS WHAT I KNOW. THE SUN BIZ FILING WAS INITIALLY REJECTED BECAUSE THE CANADIAN NAME IT WAS EXACTLY THE SAME AS ANOTHER CORPORATION HERE IN FLORIDA.

THEREFORE, IT HAS TO BE REJECTED BECAUSE THEY CAN NOT HAVE THE SAME NAME. SO THEN WE HAD TO ADD AS MISS CHRISNER SAID ANOTHER FILING AND WE HAD TO ADD THAT AND COMPLY WITH THAT. SO IT IS A FLORIDA REGISTERED CORPORATION. AND I KNOW THAT -- THAT CAN BE CONFUSING IN SUN BIZ BUT REJECTED FOR THAT REASON.

AND THAT HAS BEEN CORRECTED. I DID HAVE A PRESENTATION FOR TON TONIGHT, BUT I CAN PROBABLY JUST DO IT SPEAKING WITHOUT THE SLIDES.

YOU ALSO SAW THE SLIDES AT THE FIRST READING.

THE FIRST LEADING SOMETHING WHERE THEY DID TAKE TESTIMONY AND STAFF GAVE ITS PRESENTATION. THE PLANNING BOARD HAS RECOMMENDED APPROVAL UNANIMOUSLY.

STAFF IS RECOMMENDING APPROVAL. THIS PROPERTY IS COMMERCIAL INTENSIVE IN THE COUNTY. IF IT STAYS IN THE COUNTY AND IS NOT ANNEXED IN, THAT SIMPLY MEANS IT WILL SIMPLY BE ON ANY DEVELOPMENT ON THE PROPERTY WILL HAVE TO USE SEPTIC AND WELL AND SOME FORM OF THAT WITH A COMMERCIAL USE.

THIS IS ZONED COMMERCIALLY INTENSIVE IN NASSAU COUNTY.

THE ZONING THAT IS PERMITTED IN THAT PARTICULAR ZONING DISTRICT -- I DO HAVE A SLIDER FOR IT. SIMILAR TO THE C- ZONING DISTRICTS. LIQUOR STORE.

CURIOUSLY ENOUGH WHEN I LOOKED IT UP, SEXUALLY ORIENTED BUSINESSES, WHICH YOU SAUL "ADULT BUSINESSES" THOSE ARE -- AND MARIJUANA DISTRIBUTION CENTER.

HE WAS TRYING TO LOOK UP USES THAT COULD WORK PROPERLY OFF OF SEPTIC AND WELL. SO ONE OF THE ISSUES IS YOU KNOW

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NOT ANNEXING IN DOESN'T KEEP IT FROM DEVELOPING.

ANNEXING IN ALLOW IT IS TO BE DEVELOPED UNDER THE CITY'S STANDARDS AND THE CITY'S CODE AND THE CITY'S TREE ORDINANCE AND THE CITY'S PARKING REQUIREMENTS, WHICH GOES BACK TO SOME OF THE COMMENTS THAT MR. STUMP MADE ABOUT THE 120 UNITS.

THAT IS BACK OF THE ENVELOPE ADMITTEDLY BY COMMISSIONER ROSS AT THE FIRST READING AND DOEOUN REQUIREMENTS IF MY CLIENT DECIDED TO GO WITH LIVE LOCAL. I ASKED MY CLIENT IF THEY WANTED ME TO BE READY TO PRESENT ANYTHING REGARDING LIVE LOCAL.

THEY SAID NO, BECAUSE THEY NEVER ONCE STATED ON THE RECORD TO ANYONE IN THIS COMMISSION CHAMBER THAT THEY INTEND TO USE LIVE LOCAL. THAT IS SOMETHING THAT COMMISSIONER ROSS RAISED AT THE FIRST READING AND PRIOR TO THE FIRST READING. HE CALLED ME AND GAVE ME A HEADS UP AND TALKED TO ME ABOUT IT. AND WE HAVE NOT STATED EVER THAT WE WOULD DO LIVE LOCAL. I THINK ALSO THE OTHER THEY THINK THAT WAS RAISED IN THE FIRST READING THAT EVEN IF WE STAY IN THE COUNTY, LIVE LIKE STILL APPLIES.

A STATE STATUTE. COMMISSIONER ROSS IS SHAKING HIS HEAD YES, BECAUSE THE ONLY DIFFERENCE IS, THEY HAVE A DIFFERENT DENSITY. I HAVE SPOKEN WITH MANY OF THE COMMISSIONERS OF THE DENSITY ISSUE AND LIVE LOCAL AND THE DENSITY PROBLEM. YOU NEED TO FIX THE DENSITY.

MY CLIENT NEVER STATED THEY WOULD USE LIVE LOCAL.

I AM TRYING TO THINK OF THE OTHER -- OH, WHAT I THOUGHT WAS VERY INTERESTING WHEN I WAS PREPARING FOR TONIGHT AND PREPARED A SLIDE FOR IT IS IN COMMERCIAL INTENSIVE, IF WE DO NOT ANNEX IN, A CONDITIONAL USE IS A MOBILE HOME PARK.

ONE-ACRE ONE APPROVED ON SADDLER WE HAVE THREE AND A HALF ACRES AND WE COULD DO WITH OUR -- THIS IS -- IF WE DON'T COME IN, NOT AS IF IT WILL NOT BE DEVELOPED. IF IT COMES IN, THE SITE PLAN REQUIREMENTS, WE WILL GO THROUGH YOUR CITY TRC NOR WHATEVER THIS APPLICANT DECIDES TO DO. AND YOUR TREE ORDINANCE WILL GOVERN IT. IT WILL ALSO BE TAKEN OFF OF SEPTIC AND WELL AND BECOME A PROPERTY THAT WOULD GET WATER AND SEWER. THE CURB CUTS AND THE ACCESS TO THE PROPERTY AND THE TRAFFIC STUDIES, AS YOU ALL KNOW, ARE PART OF THE SITE PLAN AND THE TECHNICAL REVIEW.

AND I KNOW I AM SAYING THINGS THAT YOU ALL KNOW.

I AM SORT OF DOING IT FOR THE BENEFIT OF THE ROOM THAT IS FILLED HERE AS WELL. THAT THOSE ARE PROCESSES THAT HAPPEN AFTER WE COME IN. IF WE ARE NOT ANNEXED IN, THEN WE WILL BE GOING FOR THE COUNTY DEVELOPMENT OR REVIEW COMMITTEE AND COMPLYING WITH THE COUNTY'S STANDARDS.

SO WE ARE HERE TO ASK FOR YOU TO VOTE IN FAVOR OF THE ANNEXATION AND THE TWO SUBSEQUENT ONES. DID YOU APPROVE THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP IN THE FIRST READING. AND I LOOK FORWARD TO YOUR SUPPORT. I CAN ANSWER ANY OTHER QUESTIONS. AND I THINK I HAVE ADDRESSED MOST OF WHAT WAS BROUGHT UP. AND IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, IMPLORE THAN HAPPY TO ANSWER THEM.

>> ANY QUESTIONS FOR MISS PRINCE.

START WITH VICE-MAYOR STURGES. >> THANK YOU, MAYOR.

TERESA, WHAT IS THE INTENTION OF THE OWNER.

I KNOW WE DON'T KNOW THE COMPLETE -- BECAUSE THERE ARE SO MANY DIFFERENT ZONINGS WHAT THEY COULD POSSIBLY USE IT FOR.

MAYBE THEY HAVEN'T MADE THEIR MIND UP.

BUT WHAT -- WHAT IS YOUR IDEAS OR THOUGHTS ON WHERE THIS

PROPERTY IS GOING? >> CURRENTLY, THEY HAVE NOT MADE THEIR MIND UP WHAT THEY WANT TO DO WITH IT.

THEY HAVE NOT HAD ME RESEARCH ANYTHING TO DO WITH LIVE LOCAL AT THIS POINT. BURR BUT /* -- BUT HE HAS NOT DISCUSSED WITH ME THE EXACT INTENTIONS WHAT HE WANTS TO DO.

WE HAVE DISCUSSED WHAT THE ZONING ZONING ALLOWS AS FAR AS COMMERCIAL C-1 AND C-2. IT IS ADJACENT TO THE DOCTOR'S PROPERTY THAT HAD A SITE PLAN FOR A SURGICAL CENTER.

WE DISCUSSED THOSE TYPE OF THINGS I CAN REVEAL TO YOU.

OBVIOUSLY MOST OF MY DISCUSSIONS WITH MY CLIENT ARE CONFIDENTIAL AND THOSE ARE MATTERS THAT WE TALKED ABOUT THAT I CAN TALK

ABOUT IN A PUBLIC MEETING. >> IT IS POSSIBLE THIS COULD BE A COMMERCIAL STRIP MALL THAT ABUTS THE DOCTOR'S PROPERTY AND COULD BE A SURGERY CENTER NEXT TO IT?

>> CORRECT. IT COULD BE ANY PRESIDENT OF C-1, C-2 USES. OR IF WE DON'T COME IN, ANY OF THE COMMERCIAL INTENSIVE USES. CORRECT.

>> I APPRECIATE IT. >> YES.

>> I DID A LITTLE RESEARCH MYSELF TODAY AND CALLED A COUPLE OF ENGINEERS THAT DO THIS FOR A LIVING.

AND SOME OF THE RESEARCH THAT I CAME BACK WAS IF THIS WAS TO BE APARTMENTS THAT WOULD MEET OUR -- OUR CODES THAT WEREN'T LIVE LOCAL, THAT WE ARE TALKING SOMEWHERE BETWEEN 45 TO 65 APARTMENTS IS WHAT IT WILL BE BECAUSE WE HAVE DIFFERENT STIPULATIONS LIKE PARKING, LANDSCAPING, OUR BUFFERS THAT

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HAVE TO BE MET FOR THIS TYPE OF PROPERTY IF IT WAS BROUGHT TO THE CITY AND CONVERTED .THERE IS NO WAY POSSIBLE, UNLESS IT WENT LIVE LOCAL THAT IT WILL BE OVER 65 OR 70 UNITS.

DOES THAT SOUND CORRECT IN YOUR MIND?

>> I HAVE HEARD 65 FROM OTHER ENGINEERS AS WELL.

I DON'T KNOW THAT LIVE LOCAL MATTERS.

>> I AM NOT STRESSING LIVE LOCAL.

>> MAYBE BECAUSE OF THE TRIPLE DENSITY.

WOULD AFFECT IT IF LIVE LOCAL GIVES IT THE TRIPLE DENSITY.

CORRECT. I HEARD A LOT LESS -- I WAS NOT ASKED TO PREPARE FOR THAT PAUSE THAT IS NOT WHAT THEY ARE ASKING FOR HERE. THIS IS JAMES ANTUN NEXTATION.

>> WE DON'T HAVE ANY IDEA AT WHAT TIME ANSWER IS.

>> RIGHT. >> BUT -- I APPRECIATE IT.

THANK YOU, TERESA. >> YES.

AND I -- I THINK -- I THINK THERE WAS SOMETHING THAT I SAW OH, I DID WANT TO POINT OUT AS WELL THAT WHEN WE ANNEXED IN THE OTHER PROPERTY THAT HAD A SITE PLAN APPROVED FOR SURGICAL CENTER AFTER THIS ANNEXATION. THERE WERE VERY SIMILAR CONCERNS ABOUT TRAFFIC ON 15TH. THAT WAS RAISED BY THE MERRY PARK RESIDENTS HAND THIS ONE AS WELL.

AND THAT, AGAIN, THE TRAFFIC AND THE INGRESS AND EGRESS TO THE PROPERTY WILL REALLY DEPEND ON HOW IT IS DEVELOPED AND ADDRESSED THROUGH SITE PLAN REVIEW.

TRC REVIEW. AND THOSE SAME CONCERNS EVEN BEFORE LIVE LOCAL WERE BROUGHT FORWARD.

THE RESIDENTS WERE VERY CONCERNED.

THE PROPERTIES AND AND THEY DON'T REALLY HAVE ANYTHING ON THEM THAT GENERATES ANY TRAFFIC. SO THOSE WERE RAISED EVEN BEFORE LIVE LOCAL YEARS AGO WHEN WE ANNEXED THAT PROPERTY IN AS

WELL. >> ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR MISS PRINCE FROM THE COMMISSION? ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM THE COMMISSION FOR MISS PRINCE? COMMISSIONER ROSS, GO A HHEAD.

>> IT IS TRUE THAT THE 56 IS THE THEORETICAL.

THE MAXIMUM NUMBER IS SIMPLE TO COME UP WITH, 36 UNITS OPPOSED TO 10 UNITS. IN THE COUNTY 10 UNITS PER ACRE, CORRECT. AND IN THE CITY 36 UNITS PER ACRE. AND A MULTIPLE OF ACREAGE PLUS THE -- WHAT IS ADDED FOR THE RIGHT-OF-WAY.

CLOSER TO FOUR ACRES. SO THEORETICAL MAXIMUM IS 130 -- YOU ARE CORRECT. PROBABLY CANNOT BE OBTAINED.

IN THE COUNTY BECAUSE OF THE DENSITIES.

APPROXIMATELY THREE AND A HALF MORE TIMES IN THE CITY.

CORRECT? >> CORRECT.

AND I AM NOT AN ENGINEER, BUT I WOULD ALSO IMAGINE BEING ON SEPTIC AND WELL WILL AFFECT THAT ALSO.

AND THE TRIPLE DECK TEE TRIGGERED BE LIVE LOCAL.

HIGHEST DENSITY IN THE JURISDICTION.

THEN FIX THE DENSITY. ONCE WE ARE ANNEXED IN -- UNTIL MY CLIENT HAS A PLAN IN PLACE. HE IS NOT -- HE DOESN'T HAVE VESTED RIGHTS. I DID HEAR SOME RUMORS THERE WERE E-MAILS IF YOU ANNEXED IN TONIGHT IT WOULD BE SOLID WHAT IT IS NOW. LIVE LOCAL IS BEING LOOKED AT BY THE STATE. YOU ARE LOOKING AT THINGS.

NO GUARANTEE EVEN IF THIS APPLICANT DID GO LIVE LOCALS THAT THE LAWS YOU ARE THINKING OF TONIGHT WILL BE THE LAWS IN PLACE WHEN THEY ACTUALLY APPLIED.

>> BUT IT IS TRUE, YOU COULD COME IN NEXT WEEK WITH A PLAN TO TRC. IF TRC PASS IT YOU WILL WOULD HAVE THE DEVELOPMENT AND LOCK IT IN, IS THAT CORRECT?

>> WE MISSED THAT DEADLINE, BUT I GET YOUR POINT.

MORE FASTER THAN THE LEGISLATURE IS WHAT YOU ARE SAYING?

>> YOU ARE A BIT MORE NIMBLE THAN WE ARE.

>> YES. >> I AM NOT DISPUTING WITH YOU ABOUT THE DENSITIES AND WHATNOT. I AM POINTING OUT THAT.

>> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR MISS PRINCE.

I HAVE A QUESTION. SO WHAT HIGH TEMPERATURE TELLING ME IS THAT YOU AND YOUR CLIENT, REGARDLESS IF WE ANNEX OR NOT, YOU ARE GOING TO BUILD SOMETHING IN THIS LOCATION, IS THAT

CORRECT? >> RIGHT.

THEY ARE GOING TO DEVELOP IT OR SELL IT TO SOMEBODY TO DEVELOP.

WHEN THEY INITIALLY BOUGHT IT, THEY BOUGHT IT TO DEVELOP IS WH WHERE.

>> IT IS ZONED COMMERCIAL. >> COMMERCIAL INTENSIVE.

>> COMMERCIAL INTENSIVE IN THE COUNTY.

YOU AR ASKING FOR IT TO BE COMMERCIAL IN THE CITY, CORRECT?

>> CORRECT. C-2 FRONTING 14TH STREET CLOSER

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TO THE COMMERCIAL INTENSIVE BUT IN MY OPINION LESS INTENSE OF THE CI ZONING OF THE COUNTY AND C-1 ON 15TH IN ORDER TO BE LESS INTENSIVE THAN THE COMMERCIAL INTENSIVE USE ALONG 15TH, WHICH THE STAFF HAS RECOMMENDED FOR OTHER PROPERTIES THAT ABUT 15TH IN ORDER TO TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION A LESSER INTENSIVE COMMERCIAL USES ON THAT SIDE OF THE STREET BECAUSE OF THE RESIDENTIAL NATURE ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE STREET.

COMMERCIAL INTENSIVE TO C-1 AND C-2 ON 14TH.

>> THANK YOU IS HE MUCH .COMMISSIONER ANTUN.

>> MY QUESTION IS PIGGYBACKING MISS BACH, WHAT STEPS DO WE NEED IF WE APPROVE THIS CONDITIONAL THAT WE MATCH WITH THE COUNTY.

>> WE CAN'T DO ANYTHING WITH REGARD TO THIS APPLICATION.

THERE ARE THREE -- ONE APPLICATION, THREE ACTIONS TONIGHT REQUESTED. AND THEY ARE TIED WITH ZONING.

SO WE CAN'T DO ANY AGREEMENTS OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT FOR WHAT WE WOULD DO OR THEY WOULD DO. IT'S UP OR DOWN.

ANNEX AMEND OR NOT. THE ONLY THING I WANTED TO SAY THAT HAVE NOT BEEN SAID AND I SAID IT IN THESE CHAMBERS BEFORE AND FACTUAL. THIS IS NOT OPINION IS THAT THIS PROPERTY DEVELOPS. THE CITY OF STAYS IN THE COUNTY.

THE COUNTY KEEPS ALL THE TAX MONEY.

ZERO GOES TO THE CITY, BUT THE CITY, POLICE AND FIRE THAT WE PAY FOR AS RESIDENTS, WE STILL PAY FOR AND THEY DON'T PAY A DIME FOR IT. THE DENSITY ISSUE IS COMING UP ON JANUARY 2 AT A WORKSHOP I HAVE ADVISED COMMISSIONER ROSS FOR WEEKS NOW, AND FOR SOME MONTH, WE HAVE BEEN TALKING ABOUT IT KIND OF SOFTLY IS DENSITY IS THE ISSUE HERE LIVE LOCAL. WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THE STATE WILL DO WITH THIS. CITIES OVER FLORIDA ARE OBVIOUSLY VERY UPSET ABOUT THIS AND WHAT THE AFFECTS COULD BE AND WHAT WE ARE THINKING ABOUT. WE ALSO HAVEN'T SEEN ANY LIVE LOCAL PROJECTS. I AM NOT ENDORSING THEM.

BASED ON ALL THE DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS, THEY ARE PROBABLY NOT WHAT THEY THINK WE ARE GOING TO BE OR NOT AS INTENSIVE AS WE THINK THEY ARE GOING TO BE. THAT IS SOMETHING TO CONSIDER.

ANNEXATION IS SOMETHING THAT IS ENDORSE THE BY THE STATE THAT THAT NASSAU COUNTY ENDORSES THE CITY ANNEXING.

THIS PARTICULAR PROPERTY AND DRURY ROAD IS LOCATED BASICALLY SURROUNDED BY THE CITY. OUR POLICE AND FIRE ARE MOST EXPENSIVE SERVICE, THE MOST OF OUR TAXES GO TO.

ARE ALREADY RESPONDING. AND THIS ALLOWS US TO GET REVENUE. AND TO PAY FOR IT.

I AM NOT SAYING THAT IT PAYS ONE TO ONE.

$1 OF TAX REVENUE COVERS THE SERVICE, BUT MORE THAN WE ARE GETTING. SHOULD THEY DEVELOP WHATEVER THEY DEVELOP, OUR POLICE AND FIRE ARE STILL GOING TO RESPOND THERE. AND WE ARE GOING TO PAY FOR IT

IF IT IS NOT ANNEXED. >> THANK YOU, MISS BACH.

WITH THAT, MISS PRINCE, ANY FURTHER COMMENTS?

>> NO. THANK YOU.

WISH YOU A MERRY CHRISTMAS. I AM PROBABLY GOING TO BE UP HERE A FEW MORE TIMES AND IN CASE IS FORGET -- MAYOR, I WILL LIKE TO POINT OUT -- I COULD DO THIS LATER AND I MY DO THIS AS WELL. BUT WE HAVE A MISTAKE IN THE DRAFT MINUTES THAT WERE CIRCULATED AND I WILL MAKE SURE TO GET WITH MISS BEST THAT SAID YOU HAD NO EX-PARTE COMMUNICATION ALL FIVE OF YOU, WHICH I DO BELIEVE IS WRONG.

WE WILL GET THAT FIXED. IT IS FOR THIS AGENDA ITEM.

AND THERE ARE JUST SOME DRAFT MINUTES THAT INCLUDED AND I CAUGHT IT WHILE I WAS READING AND MAKE SURE -- BECAUSE I KNOW YOU DISCLOSED ALL FIVE OF YOU THAT YOU HAD EX-PARTE COMMUNICATIONS. SO I WANTED TO MAKE THAT POINT CLEAR. THANK YOU.

>>U THAT FOR CLARIFYING THAT. AND THANK YOU FOR EVERYBODY PARTICIPATING TONIGHT. I CLOSE THE YOU CAN WILL I CAN HEARING. LET'S OPEN IT UP -- YOU SPOKE UP

-- >> I HAD MY HAND UP FOR

SOMETHING -- >> YOU ALREADY SPOKE TONIGHT.

>> I AM DISPUTING SOMETHING SHE JUST READ INTO THE RECORD THERE WILL BE ANOTHER OPPORTUNITY FOR PUBLIC COMMENT.

>> THERE WON'T BE BECAUSE VOTING ON THE ANNEXATION.

>> ANOTHER AGENDA ITEM. >> YOU ARE NOT ALLOWING ME TO SPEAK? I AM ADDRESSING --

>> CALL UP MISS BACH. >> YOU DO NOT HAVE TO ALLOW HER TO COME UP TO SPEAK. THIS IS NOT A QUASI JUDICIAL HEARING. I HEARD IT NUMBER OF TIMES ON THE RECORD, TESTIMONY TESTIFYING -- NOBODY IS TESTIFYING TONIGHT.

THE PUBLIC HEARING OCCURRED ON FIRST READING AND IT IS UP TO THE CITY COMMISSION. MAYOR, DON'T HAVE TO MAKE THE DECISION, YOU CAN ASK YOUR FELLOW COMMISSION MEMBERS.

THE MAJORITY CAN AND CANNOT RESPOND TO ME.

>> THANK YOU, MISS BACH. WE ALREADY CLOSED THE PUBLIC

HEARING. >> YOU JUST STARTED TO WHEN I

RAISED MY HAND BEFORE. >> MISS CAREY.

YOU ALREADY SPOKE FOR THREE MINUTES TONIGHT AS DID MANY

OTHER CITIZENS. >> YOU DID NOT READ THAT INTO

THE RECORD UNTIL NOW. >> MISS CAREY.

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>> YOU DON'T WANT TO HEAR THE TRUTH.

>> MISS KRRNGZAREY, THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMENTS TONIGHT.

COMMISSION DISCUSSION. TO WANTS TO SPEAK ON THIS FIRST?

>> I THINK I SPOKE ENOUGH THE LAST MEETING ABOUT THIS.

IT IS THE OPPORTUNITY. IT IS NOT SPECULATIVE.

IT IS REAL THAT YOU CAN -- IT IS TRIPLE THE AMOUNT OF MULTIFAMILY UNITS. AND I THINK THAT WE SHOULD TAKE A DEEP BREATH BEFORE WE KEEP ANNEXING IN UNTIL WE UNDER STAND WHAT THE CONSEQUENCES ARE. SO I WILL OPPOSE THE ANNEXATION, BASED UPON THE EVIDENCE THAT IS IN THE RECORD.

I ALSO WOULD LIKE TO POINT OUT THAT THE PLANNING BOARD APPROVED THIS BY 100%. BUT THE PLANNING BOARD HAD NO IDEA THAT LIVE LOCAL COULD BE AFFECTED BY THIS PROPERTY.

THERE WAS NO ANALYSIS. 234509 DONE BY THE CITY STAFF AND NONE DID THAT DURING THE HEARING.

I WOULD OPPOSE THE ANNEXATION FOR THE REASONS IN THE PAST AND NO SUBSTANTIAL EVIDENCE THAT SUPPORTS THE ANNEXATION OF THIS ON THE ISSUE OF MULTIFAMILY HOUSING.

>> COMMISSIONER A SHGZYSCUE. >> THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR.

LIKE VICE-MAYOR STURGES. I DID A LITTLE RESEARCH AND SAT DOWN WITH CITY STAFF, ESPECIALLY MISS GIBSON.

LIVE LOCAL IS A -- IS AN ISSUE THAT WE ARE ALL GOING TO DEAL WITH NOW, TOMORROW, AND IN THE FUTURE.

THERE IS JUST NO WAY OF TELLING WHETHER OR NOT THIS IS OR IS NOT GOING TO BE LIVE LOCAL. BUT IF IT WERE, THE CITIES CITY'S CODES AND STANDARDS ARE SO MUCH MORE STLIKT.

YOU HAVE PARKING. PUFF STORMWATER RETENTION.

YOU HAVE ALL THE OTHER THINGS THAT WILL GO ON THAT WILL BE REQUIRED. AND SO THAT NUMBER -- THAT 130 OR 120-PLUS NUMBER IS JUST NOT CORRECT.

IT IS -- IT IS -- IT IS A BACK-OF-THE-ENVELOPE NUMBER.

IT'S -- I HATE TO SAY IT, BUT A SCARE TACTIC TO GET EVERYONE UP AND ARMS. IT IS NOT GOING TO HAPPEN.

THERE ARE TOO MANY OTHER FACTORS THAT ARE GOING TO PUSH THAT NUMBER DOWN. HAND THIS IS EVEN IF THEY WERE TO BE LIVE LOCAL. THAT IS THE BEG.

COMMERCIAL NOW AND COMING IN AS COMMERCIAL.

AND -- AND THAT IS -- THAT'S ALL I HAVE, MR. MAJOR THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER. VICE-MAYOR.

>> YEAH, I DID RESEARCH AS WELL. I TALKED TO SOME OF THE COUNTY STAFF AS WELL. I TALKED TO COUNTY COMMISSIONER MYSELF ABOUT THIS PROPERTY AND CHECKED THE ZONING.

AND IT COULD BE AN RV PARK. IT COULD AS EASILY BE AN RV PARK. WE HAVE A LOT OF CITIZENS WHO WERE VERY UPSET OF THE THOUGHT OF RVS PARKED OUT IN FRONT IN A ONE-ACRE LOT ON SADDLER ROAD. IMAGINE A THREE-ACRE-PLUS LOT ON 14TH STREET WITH 40 OR 50 RVS THAT WILL COME IN AND OUT OF HERE ON IS A DAILY BASIS. ON A NEATLY BNIGHT /* -- NIGHTL BASIS. THE COUNTY DID IT UNDER A CRC AND DID NOT TAKE IT OUT OF COMMERCIAL INTENSIVE.

IT STILL EXISTS AS A USE THAT COULD BE USED.

AND THAT COULD BE ONE OPTION. IT COULD VERY MUCH BE A COMMERCIAL PROJECT. NOBODY KNOWS AT THIS POINT.

AND THE LIVE LOCAL ACT IS SOMETHING THAT WE CAN'T CONTROL.

SO IT DOESN'T MATTER IF WE DECIDE NOT TO TAKE IT INTO THE CITY. AND WE DECIDE NOT TO GIVE THEM WATER AND SEWER, THEY ARE GOING TO DEVELOP IT NO MATTER WHAT.

IT WILL BECOME SOMETHING WHETHER IT IS 30 APARTMENTS OR TEN COMMERCIAL UNITS OR WHATEVER THE CASE IS.

THE TRAFFIC THAT EVERYBODY SEES EVERY DAY IS FROM THE PEOPLE WHO LIVE HERE. AND YOU CAN PERFORM A TRAFFIC STUDY ALL DAY LONG AND I CALLED THE COUNTY AND GOT THEIR INFORMATION. DO YOU KNOW HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE -- OUR WHOLE CITY HAS MOVED IN ONE YEAR? HOW MANY HAVE MOVED TO THIS ISLAND? THE POPULATION? I WILL GO AHEAD AND ANSWER THE QUESTION BECAUSE I KNOW THE ANSWER, 287.

OUR POPULATION HAS GONE UP 287 PE PEOPLE. NOT THE TRAFFIC FROM THE PEOPLE WHO LIVE HERE THAT CAUSES THE ISSUE IN OUR CITY.

IT IS THE TRAFFIC THAT COMES OVER THAT BRIDGE EVERY DAY, BACK AND FORTH. AND THEN THEY LEAVE.

SO IF YOU GO OUT THERE RIGHT NOW, 6:30, ALMOST -- WELL, 7:15 NOW. 7:15, WE DON'T HAVE A MASS TRAFFIC PROBLEMS ON OUR ISLAND. THE PROBLEMS COME FROM THE PEOPLE THAT COME EVERY DAY. SO IF YOU ASK THE COUNTY HOW MUCH IT HAS GROWN OFF THE ISLAND, I DON'T KNOW THAT NUMBER, BECAUSE I DIDN'T INQUIRE, BUT I AM SURE IT IS A

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LARGE MULTIPLE COMPARED TO 287. SO I AM GOING TO VOTE TO SUPPORT THIS BECAUSE I BELIEVE THAT WE SHOULD HAVE SOME PEOPLE OFF OF SEPTIC TANKS AND SEWERS AND OUT OF WELLS BECAUSE THAT IS THE RIGHT THING TO DO ON A BARRIER ISLAND HAND THIS ANSWER THE FOR ME. THE RIGHT THING TO DO AND HOPEFULLY THIS PERSON WILL BE A STEWARD OF OUR ISLAND WHICH I FEEL THEY WILL AND DEVELOP CORRECTLY.

THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU, VICE-MAYOR.

COMMISSIONER ROSS. >> I WOULD SAY THAT HOPE IS NOT A STRATEGY. FIRST OF ALL, SCARE TACTICS.

I CLEARLY STATED FROM THE GET-GO THAT THE 130 WAS A MAXIMUM.

LOW NUMBER. I MEAN, THAT'S TRUE.

I'M NOT DISPUTING THAT IN THE LEAST.

WHAT I AM DISPUTE SOMETHING THAT I DON'T THINK THE ANALYSIS HAS BEEN DONE BY STAFF OR ANYBODY ELSE TO SEE WHAT THE REAL IMPACT OF THIS IS IF WE ANNEX IT IN. AND I -- THAT'S WHY I AM GOING TO VOTE AGAINST IT. I THINK IT IS IMPORTANT TO KNOW THAT THE IMPACT -- AND IN GOING BACK TO THE SCARE TACTICS SAYING IT IS GOING TO BE A MARIJUANA USE OR GOING TO BE A -- A MOBILE HOME PARK OR WHATEVER IS IN THAT SAME CATEGORY.

WE ARE AT A CROSSING POINT HERE. AND WE KEEP ADDING AND ADDING AND ADDING AND WE NEED TO LOOK AT WHAT WE ARE ADDING AND THE AFFECT ON THE QUALITY OF LIFE. WE RAN ON QUALITY OF LIFE AND ADDING THINGS THAT WILL SIGNIFICANTLY IMPACT THAT WITHOUT DOING A CAREFUL ANALYSIS AND THAT IS WHY I WILL BE VOTING

AGAINST IT. >> THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER.

ALL RIGHT, I WILL CLOSE THIS OUT BY SAYING I DON'T THINK THIS SHOULD BE HOUSES. I DON'T THINK IT SHOULD BE HOUSES. THAT IS WHY WE ARE ANNEXING IT IN AS COMMERCIAL. THAT IS WHAT IT IS.

THE APPLICANT ONLY EVER STATED THEY WANTED COMMERCIAL.

IN FACT I DON'T KNOW WHERE THE WORDS ANYTHING BUT CAME FROM.

I HEARD OF APPLICANT WANTED COMMERCIAL.

THE APPLICANT HAS MENTIONED COMMERCIAL MULTIPLE TIMES.

COMMERCIAL NOW AND WILL BE COMMERCIAL WHEN IT COMES IN THAT IS THE FACTS. THAT IS WHAT IT IS.

FURTHERMORE, WHAT I WILL SAY IS WHEN I ASK THE APPLICANT, EITHER WAY, THERE IS SOMETHING GOING TO BE BUILT HERE.

NOT THE FACT THAT THE CITY IS ANNEXING IT.

I WANT TO HEADACHE SURE THE TWO THINGS ARE NOT DECOUPLED BECAUSE NOT THE ANNEXATION THAT TRIGGERS GROWTH.

THAT IS NOT WHAT IS HAPPENING HERE.

IF ANYTHING, ANNEXATION IS HAPPENING THE GROWTH BE DONE IN THE RIGHT WAY, IN THE CITY, THERE IS NO SECRET THAT WE LOVE OUR TREES HERE. IN FERNANDINA BEACH, WE LOVE TREES. SOMETHING THAT WE ALL DUE, ALL LOVE. IN FERNANDINA, WE HAVE THE STRICTEST TREE ORDINANCE THAT WE EVER HAD IN THE HISTORY OF OUR CITY. WE HAVE EXPANDED THAT THIS YEAR.

THIS COMMISSION ADDED PROTECTION TOSCANO BEE ROADS AND THINGS LIKE THAT -- ON CON KCANOPIED ROADS.

AND I WANT TREE PROTECTION. FURTHERMORE, UNDER THE RULES SEWER OPPOSED TO SEPTIC TANKS EVER TANKS.

NO SECRET AS WELL THE STATE OF FLORIDA HAS BEEN ON A CAMPAIGN OF REMOVING SEPTIC TANKS. TALKING ABOUT HOW TO GET MONEY ON THE CITY ON THE COAST TO GET SEPTIC TANKS OUT OF FLOOD PLAINS AND OUT OF AREAS BECAUSE THE SEPTIC TANKS ARE CAUSING THINGS IN IS THERE LIKE RED TIDE AND BIG ISSUES.

WE DON'T WANT NEW SEPTIC TANKS. THESE TWO REASONS MAKE IT IMPORTANT THAT WE PUT IT IN THE CITY BECAUSE THOSE TWO THINGS ARE STRICT REGULATIONS AS WELL AS OUR -- AS WELL AS THE FACT WE HAVE CITY SEWER AND WHAT ANNEXATION REALLY MEANS.

EITHER WAIVER, THIS APPLICANT WILL BE DOING SOMETHING ON 14TH STREET. AND THE QUESTION IS, WHAT IS THE CITY GOING TO DO ABOUT IT. WHAT THE CITY IS GOING TO DO ABOUT IT. HEY, WE ARE PUTTING THESE RULES IN PLACE AND THAT'S WHERE WE ARE COMING IN.

I WILL SUPPORT THIS. BECAUSE I BELIEVE THIS IS IN THE HEARTH OF THE CITY. THIS IS RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE OF FERNANDINA BEACH. RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE OF OUR COMMERCIAL DISTRICT AND ANNEXING IT IN AS COMMERCIAL.

THOSE ARE ALL THE COMMENTS I HAVE.

COMMISSIONER ROSS. >> SO UNDOUBTEDLY WE ARE ANNEXING COMMERCIAL. I SAID MANY, MANY TIMES IN THIS VERY CHAMBER THAT I WILL NEVER VOTE FOR TAKING COMMERCIAL AND MAKING IT INTO RESIDENTIAL. AND I VOTED IN MANY OTHER 4-1 VOTES WHERE I LOST ON THIS ONE. THE DIFFERENCE IS LIVE LOCAL.

THAT CHANGED THE GAME. YES, THEY ARE WRINGING IT IN AS COMMERCIAL -- BRINGING IT IN AS COMMERCIAL.

AND THEY HAVE OTHER USE. THAT IS THE ELEPHANT IN THE ROOM AND THAT IS WHY I AM OPPOSED. IT IS NOT REALLY COMMERCIAL.

COMMERCIAL YOU CAN DO THINGS WITH BECAUSE OF LIVE LOCAL.

THE HEART OF THE MATTER. IF THIS IS GOING TO BE COMMERCIAL AND LIVE LOCAL WASN'T HERE, THIS CONVERSATION WOULDN'T

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HAVE HAPPENED AND I WOULD HAVE VOTED FOR IF A LONG TIME AGO.

SPECTER OF LIVE LOCAL AND WHAT IT CAN TO DO OUR COMMUNITY.

SO THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER ROSS.

I UNDERSTAND THAT POINT VERY CLEARLY.

HOWEVER, LIVE LOCAL DOES NOT APPLY AND ANNEXATION.

THE FACT WE ARE ANNEXING IT DOESN'T MEAN WE ARE GIVING IT THE ABILITY TO DO LIVE LOCAL. THAT IS ALREADY THERE.

WE DON'T CHANGE THE FACT AT ALL. SOME LIKE I SAID BEFORE WATCH IT CHANGES IS THE REGULATION IT IS HAS TO BE UNDER AND THE STRICTER TREE ORDINANCE. AND THANK THIS COMMISSION FOR STANDING UP FOR TREES. APPEAR MUCH STRICTER -- NOT MUCH STRICTER, BUT SEWER. REQUIRES SEWER.

SOMETHING THAT IS VERY IMPORTANT AND SOMETHING THAT I THINK WE HAVE STOOD FOR AS A COMMISSION AS WELL.

THAT IS WHY WE ARE ANNEXING IT. THE LIVE LOCAL THING IS ALREADY THERE IF WE ANNEX OR NOT. WE DON'T ANNEX IT, DECIDE TO DO THE LIVE LOCAL IS ON SEPTIC TANK AND CLEAR CUT THE TREE -- NOT SOMETHING WE WANT EITHER. IT IS IMPORTANT THAT WE ANNEX BECAUSE WE MUST PROTECT OUR TREES AND QUALITY OF LIFE.

COMMISSIONER ROSS, GO AHEAD. >> THE ONE THING THAT ANNEXING -- YOU ARE CORRECT. ANNEXING APPLIES TO BOTH.

BUT THE ONE DIFFERENCE IS, IT IS THREE AND A HALF TIMES THE DENSITY IN THE CITY OPPOSED TO THE COUNTY.

AND THAT IS THE ELEPHANT IN THE ROOM.

SO THAT IS -- THAT IS THE DIFFERENCE.

AND IT IS A SIGNIFICANT DIFFERENCE.

>> THANK YOU FOR YOUR POINT, COMMISSIONER ROSS.

I THINK WE BOTH MADE OURSELF CLEAR ON THIS.

WITH THAT, WE WILL CALL THE ROLL.

MISS BEST. >> I NEED A MOTION AND A SECOND.

>> I THOUGHT WE DID. >> I THOUGHT WE DID ALREADY.

>> HEY, SO LONG THAT -- IT HAS BEEN SO LONG.

I DO HEAR A MOTION? >> I WILL MAKE A MOTION FOR

APPROVAL. >> SECOND.

>> I HEAR A MOTION AND A SECOND. WE ALREADY HAD TOWER DISCUSSION.

I WILL RESTATE THAT MOTION. FOR APPROVAL.

MISS BEST, GO AHEAD. >> YES.

THAT MASSES 4-1. DOWN THE LINE, ITEMS 7.6.

[7.6 FUTURE LAND USE MAP ASSIGNMENT - S. 14TH AND S. 15TH STREET]

THAT IS THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP ASSIGNMENT OF SOUTH 14TH AND SOUTH 15TH STREET. MISS BACH.

>> 2023-54, GENERAL COMMERCIAL 3.74 ACRES OF LAND LOCATED ON ■ SOUTH 14TH AND SOUTH 15TH STREETS PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY AND PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE.

PLEASE OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING. >> THE PUBLIC HEARING IS OPEN.

ANYONE LIKE TO SPEAK ON THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP? SEEING NONE. THE PUBLIC HEARING IS CLOSED.

DO I HEAR A COMMISSIONER MOTION. >> MOVE TO APPROVE.

>> SECOND. >> I HEAR A MOTION AND A SECOND.

ANY DISCUSSION? COMMISSIONER ROSS.

>> THE SAME COMMENTS I MADE AT THE ORIGINAL HEARING, I OPPOSE

THIS. >> THANK YOU.

ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? SEEING NONE, CITY CLERK, PLEASE

CALL THE ROLL. >> YES.

>> YES. >> COMMISSIONER ROSS: NO.

[7.7 ZONING MAP ASSIGNMENT - SOUTH 14TH AND SOUTH 15TH STREET]

PASSES 4-1. ZONING REQUIREMENT, SOUTH 14TH

AND 15TH. >> ORDINANCE 2023-55, ASSIGNING A ZONING MAP CATEGORY OF GENERAL COMMERCIAL C-2 FRONTING SOUTH 14TH STREET AND -- AND COMMUNITY COMMERCIAL C-1 FRONTING SOUTH 15TH STREET TOTALING APPROXIMATELY 3.74 ACRES OF LAND PROVIDING FOR SERMENTS AND PROVIDING FOR EFFECTIVE DATE.

>> PUBLIC HEARING IS OPEN. WOULD ANYONE LIKE TO SPEAK ON THE ZONING MAP ASSIGNMENT. I HAVE REQUEST.

PLEASE COME ON DOWN. HELLO, WELCOME.

PLEASE START WITH YOUR NAME AND APRIL DRESS FOR THE RECORD,

MA'AM. >> DEBRA HOFFMAN, OCEAN BREEZE

DRIVE. >> THANK YOU.

>> MY FIRST TIME ATTENDING THE MEETING AND I GUESS I WAS SURPRISED IN THE FIRST DISCUSSION 14TH AND 15TH STREET WHERE THE LAWYER FOR THE PROPERTY OWNER SPOKE AND NO ONE WAS ABLE TO SPEAK AFTER. I GUESS I DON'T UNDERSTAND THE RULES THAT WE WEREN'T ALLOWED TO SPEAK AFTER THAT.

SO QUESTIONING THAT. I KNOW I AM NOT STATING THIS FOR THE QUESTION THAT WE ARE LOOKING AT RIGHT NOW BUT 14TH AND 15TH STREET. THE IDEA OF HAVING 15TH STREET BECOME A COMMERCIAL STREET. I GUESS I AM LOSING MY TRAIN OF THOUGHT BECAUSE I NEVER HAVE DONE THIS BEFORE.

MY APOLOGIES. >> ALL GOOD, MISS HOFFMANMAN.

ANOTHER REQUEST TO SPEAK. MISS HOFFMAN, IF YOU TILL FILL OUT ONE OF THE FORMS IF THE BACK.

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>> SUE HE CANNENBERG, 241NABORS STREET AND I LIVE IN AMELIA PARK. SO IS MY UNDERSTANDING YOU ARE

VOTING NOW ON DID C-1 AND C-2. >> C-2 IS THE BUSIER ROAD.

AND C-1 IS FACING 15TH STREET. >> I ALSO LIVE ONNABORS STREET AND SEEN FIRST HAND OF THE TRAFFIC GOING THROUGH NOW.

IT'S INCREDIBLE. WE LIVE RIGHT OFF OF THE ONE-WAY STREET ON NABORS STREET AND PEOPLE ARE CONTINUING TO GO THROUGH THAT AND GOING THE WRONG WAY ON THE ONE-WAY STREET THAT WILL MULTIPLY EXPONENTIALLY. AS I TOTALLY UNDERSTAND THAT SOMEONE BOUGHT IT. THEY ARE GOING TO DEVELOP IT.

BUT I ACTUALLY WAS IN THE -- RESENT THE SCARE TACTICS OF MISS PRINCE SAYING SEX SHOPS AND MARIJUANA STORES AND TRAILER PARKS. IF THIS DOESN'T GO THROUGH, THAT IS WHAT IS GOING TO HAPPEN. YOU KNOW, IT'S LIKE.

GIVE ME A BREAK. ANYWAY, I NEVER DONE THIS BEFORE EITHER. AND THAT IS MY FIRST ATTENDANCE.

IF WE HAD KNOWN THIS BASS GOING TO HAPPEN WE WOULD HAVE BEEN AT THE NOVEMBER 29 MEETING. BUT I GUESS WE WEREN'T ON OUR TOES THIS ISN'T TAKEN PLACE. FAITH -- WHAT DID COMMISSIONER ROSS SAID, FAITH ISN'T A STRATEGY AND THAT IS TRUE.

WE ARE TAKING EVERYTHING ON FAITH.

WELL, WE DON'T HAVE A PLAN YET, BUT MY PEOPLE ARE GOING TO DO RIGHT BY THE COMMUNITY. WE ARE HOPING THAT THEY ARE GOING TO -- TO -- TO RESPONSIBLY BLEND INTO FERNANDINA BEACH.

AND IT IS JUST -- THIS IS -- THIS IS -- THIS IS -- THIS IS

SCARY. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

REAL QUICK, CHIEF, I JUST HEARD A REPORT THAT WE HAVE PEOPLE SPEEDING ONNABORS. STREET.

IF WILL LOOK INTO THAT WITH A FEW OFFICERS AS WELL.

>> YES, SIR. >> PLEASE, WHEN YOU HAVE A CHANCE, CAN YOU FILL OUT A REQUEST.

OFFICERSTURGES IS BRINGING YOU A REQUEST TO SPEAK FORM.

WE APPRECIATE YOU BEING WITH US TONIGHT.

ANY OTHER PUBLIC COMMENT ON IN? COME ON DOWN, MISS CAREY.

H WELCOME.

>> I WOULD LIKE TO READ FROM THE SECRETARY OF STATE'S OFFICE CORPORATE DIVISION BECAUSE IF THIS GOES THROUGH, IT WILL BE AN INACCURATE ZONING. IN VIOLATION WITH YOUR LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE. YOU HAD PROBLEMS IN THE PAST WHERE AN APPLICANT, OWNER, AGENT WAS NOT LISTED IN ITS ENTIRETY OR CORRECTLY. AND WHAT MISS PRINCE STATING IS I AM DISPUTING BECAUSE I HAVE A LETTER I SENT TO CAROLYN BEST TO PUT INTO THE RECORD DATED SEPTEMBER 2022 TO MISS PRINCE.

WE RECEIVED YOUR DOCUMENT FOR DARIUS PROPERTY LIMITED AND CHECK TOTALING $140. HOWEVER, THE ENCLOSED DOCUMENT HAS NOT BEEN FILED AND BEING RETURNED TO YOU FOR THE FOLLOWING REASONS. A CERTIFICATE OF EXISTENCE OR A CERTIFICATE OF GOOD STANDING DATING MORE THAN 90 DAYS OF THE DELIVERY OF THE APPLICATION TO THE DEPARTMENT OF STATE DULY AUTHENTICATED BY THE SECRETARY OF STATE AND OTHER OFFICIAL HAVING CUSTODY OF THE RECORD IN THE JUSHGS INDUCTIONS UNDER THE LAWS OF WHICH IT WAS INCORPORATED ORDER ORGANIZED MUST BE SUBMITTED TO THIS OFFICE.

A TRANSLATION OF THE CERTIFICATE UNDER OATH OF THE TRANSLATOR MUST BE ATTACHED TO A CERTIFICATE WHICH IS IN A LANGUAGE OTHER THAN THE ENGLISH LANGUAGE.

A PHOTO COPY OF THIS CERTIFICATE IS NOT ACCEPTABLE.

THIS IS THE PROBLEM WITH YOUR APPLICATION AS IT STANDS RIGHT NOW. EVERY DOCUMENT THAT WENT BEFORE THE PAB AND BEFORE YOU AND ON THE RECORD STATES DARIUS PROPERTY LIMITED .THEY SAY THE USE OF LIMITED OR LTD IS NOT SUFFICIENT AS A CORPORATION. IT MUST INCLUDE WORDS LIKE INCORPORATED, INC, CORPORATION OR CORP.

THAT WAS THE REAL REASON IT WAS REJECTED.IT DIDN'T HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH A DUPLICATE FLORIDA CORPORATION AND I HAVE SENT A LIST OF THOSE CONVERSATIONS IN THE RECORD TO MISS BEST AS WELL TO PROVE THAT. SECONDLY, HER STATEMENT THAT THE PROPERTY OWNER HAD NO IDEA WHAT THEY ARE GOING TO DO.

THE PROPERTY IS UNTRUE. THE SITE ENGINEERING PLAN INCLUDES LOT 8 WHICH IS PART OF THE ANNEXATION.

AND THE COUNTY HAS ALREADY APPROVED IT.

THE PROBLEM IS, THE -- THE SITE ENGINEERING PLAN WHICH YOU KNOW

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AS ENGINEER, I BELIEVE, STATES THAT THE -- STATES THAT THE SOURCE OF WATER AND UTILITIES IS THE CITY OF FERNANDINA BEACH.

THEY NEED IT TO YOU PROCEED, BUT ACCORDING GABE PORTER, THE DEVELOPMENT REVIEW ENGINEER FOR THE COUNTY, ENGINEERS TRACK THEIR REVISIONS TO THEIR PLANS. I HAD ASKED HIM ABOUT THAT.

THESE PLANS ARE APPROVED BY NASSAU COUNTY.

THIS IS DATED -- DECEMBER 6. DECEMBER 6.

IF THIS PARCEL REMAINS IN UNINCORPORATED NASSAU COUNTY, THE OWN CAN BUILD THIS SITE AS DESIGNED TOP STATE THAT THE PROPERTY OWNER HAD NO IDEA WHAT THEY WERE GOING TO DO WITH THE PROPERTY WHEN THEY HAVE A SITE PLAN THAT SAYS THE SHOPS AT 15 IS SIMPLY UNTRUE. AS COMMISSIONER ROSS STATED WE KNOW THAT LIVE LOCAL. HOWEVER IT IS REFERRED TO IS ONLY APPLIED TO COMMERCIAL PROPERTIES .SO IT DOES MAKE A DIFFERENCE. BUT THEY NEED YOU TO ANNEX IT.

YOU DON'T NEED THEM. >> THANK YOU, MISS CAREY.

SO WITH THAT ANY FURTHER COMMISSIONER COMMENT.

WE HAVE MISS PRINCE WHO PUT IN HER APPLICATION AS WELL TO SPEAK. MISS PRINCE, GO AHEAD.

>> THANK YOU, MAYOR AND CITY COMMISSION.

I HOPE SOMEBODY SPEAKS AFTER ME BECAUSE I KNOW YOU CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING WHICH IS WHY OTHER PEOPLE COULDN'T SPEAK.

ANYBODY CAN GET UP AFTER ME TO SPEAK AS LONG AS THEY DO IT BEFORE THE PUBLIC HEARING IS CLOSED AS FAR AS I UNDERSTAND.

SO THE DIVISION OF CORPORATION, IF I MISSPOKE, BECAUSE I DO THIS A LOT. YOU KNOW, WE HAVE CORRECTED IT.

AND WE WILL MAKE SURE THAT GET THAT OVER TO MISS BEST.

IT HAS BEEN CORRECTED FOR WHATEVER REASON IT WAS INITIALLY NOT ACCEPTED. AND THEN THE -- THE ONLY REASON I GOT UP TO SPEAK THIS TIME IS BECAUSE THE PREVIOUS PLANS THAT THE PREVIOUS OWNER DID ON THE PROPERTY HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH US. THIS PROPERTY THAT THE PARTICULAR LOT THAT SHE IS SPEAKING OF, I BELIEVE -- IT WAS THE ONE BOUGHT FROM JAY MOCK, MY CLIENT DID.

SOME THAT -- I WASN'T EVEN AWARE THAT PREVIOUS OWNER HAD SUBMITTED THAT PREVIOUS PLAN TO THE COUNTY.

NOW THAT WE ARE THE NEW OWNER, IT -- IT DOESN'T -- WE WOULD HAVE TO AMEND THE APPLICATION AND DO ALL THOSE THINGS.

BUT I WAS NOT AWARE OF IT. AND I DON'T THINK IT IS PERTINENT HERE BECAUSE WE ARE NOT PLANNING ON DOING THAT.

AS FAR AS I KNOW. BUT -- BUT IT WAS THE PREVIOUS OWNER WHO HAD THAT APPLICATION IN BACK IN DECEMBER.

AND NOT THIS OWNER. SO, THANK YOU.

WE APPRECIATE YOUR SUPPORT TONIGHT.

AND ALL THE COMMENTS TONIGHT. AND EVERYBODY COMING OUT AND VOICING THEIR CONCERNS. AND WE WILL CERTAINLY GET THAT DIVISION OF CORPORATION INFORMATION PROPERLY IN TO THE CITY. BUT IT HAS BEEN CORRECTED AND FIXED. I DO KNOW THAT.

THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU, MISS PRINCE.

ANY FURTHER REQUEST TO SPEAK? ALL RIGHT, SEEING NONE.

THIS PUBLIC HEARING IS CLOSED. DO I HEAR A MOTION FROM THE

COMMISSION? >> MOVE TO APPROVE.

>> SECOND. >> I HEAR THAT.

ANYONE WISH TO HAVE COMMISSIONER DISCUSSION? SEEING NONE. I AM HAPPY TO BRING THIS IN AS COMMERCIAL AS IT IS IN THE COUNTY NOW.

LET'S BRING IT IN AS COMMERCIAL. C-1 AND C-2.

WITH THAT, MISS BEST, PLEASE CALL THE ROLL.

[8.1 AMELIA RIVER WATERFRONT COMMUNITY REDEVELOPMENT AREA ADVISORY BOARD]

8.1. BOARD APPOINTMENT AMELIA RIVER COMMUNITY REDEVELOPMENT AREA ADVISORY BOARD.

>> YES. PASSES 4-1.

ONE APPOINTMENT. DO I HEAR A MOTION?

>> ACTUALLY CAN I -- >> YES, COMMISSIONER ROSS.

>> ACTUALLY TWO SLOTS AVAILABLE ON THIS.

>> OH, EXCELLENT. THERE ARE TWO.

>> ONE IS FOR THE RESIDENT WHO LIVES WITHIN A MILE OF THE CRA GREG ROLEN. AND THE OTHER ONE A RESIDENT WHO

LIVES IN THE CITY. >> MISS KELLY PERKA.

>> THANK YOU. THERE ARE TWO.

AND WHAT I WAS GOING TO PRO PROPOSE ALL THESE -- NO DISPARITY BETWEEN -- NOT LIKE WE DID THE LAST TIME.

DO THEM ALL AS ONE MOTION IF THAT WORKS.

>> SORRY, MAYOR, I HAVE TO -- I HAVE TO ANNOUNCE THAT I MUST ABSTAIN. THERE IS A POTENTIAL CONFLICT OF INTEREST WITH ME VOTING FOR CONGRESS ROLEN WHO IS AN ASSISTANT CHIEF AND IN MY DIRECT LINE OF SUPERVISION AT MY JOB.

SO I MUST OBTAIN ON THAT VOTE. SO I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU WOULD LIKE TO PROCEED. BUT EITHER WAY, I -- I HAVE A

POTENTIAL CONFLICT OF INTEREST. >> THANK YOU FOR SHARING THAT COMMISSIONER AYSCUE AND I APPRECIATE.

COMMISSIONER ROSS, I HEAR WHAT YOU SAYING DO FIRST CHIEF ROLEN AND THEN DO THE BLACK AFTER. THANK YOU FOR SHARING YOUR

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CONFLICT OF INTEREST AND YOU CAN ABSTAIN AND WE WILL DO THE REST

OF THEM AS A BLOCK. >> I NOMINATE GREG ROLEN ON 9 POSITION OF THE CRA THAT HE WILL BE THE RESIDENT WITHIN ONE MILE

OF THE CRA. >> I WILL SECOND.

>> I WILL HEAR A MOTION AND A SECOND.

ANY DISCUSSION? SEEING NONE.

I'M JUST EXCITED. I WILL HAVE CHIEF ROLEN ON BOARD. MISS BEST, PLEASE CALL THE ROLL.

>> THAT PASSES 4-0. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

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NOW I DO HEAR A MOTION OF THE REMAINDER OF THE APPLICANTS?

>> I WILL MOVE APPROVE ALL THE REMAINING APPLICANTS.

>> SECONDS. >> I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND TO APPROVE ALL THE REMAINING APPLICANTS AND JUST TO RESTATE THAT, I AM GOING TO GO AHEAD AND READ THEIR NAMES OUT SO WE KNOW WHO THEY ARE I HONESTLY THINK WE NEED TO RECOGNIZE THESE PEOPLE.

THEY ARE DEDICATED SOME TIME TO THE CITY ON THESE BOARDS AND A VERY IMPORTANT THING. KELLY PERCO FOR BEING ON THE CRA BOARD. ANTHONY TEOTIS AND FRANK COMIS FOR OF THE CODE ENFORECEMENT AND APPEALS BOARD.

YOUTH ADVISORY WORD, MISS CON TEMPERATURE RALES.

WE THANK YOU HER FOR WORK THERE. ON THE HTC, MR. EESCLUSA.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH. WE APPRECIATE YOU.

AND THAT IS A REAPPOINTMENT. THANK HIM FOR HIS EXISTING SERVICE SWAP APPROXIMATELY WITH THAT, THAT IS EVERYBODY.

I HEAR THAT MOTION AND SECOND. ANY DISCUSSION ON OUR MOTION ON THE FLOOR TO APPROVE ALL THOSE APPLI

APPLICANTS? >> MOVE TO APPROVE.

>> SECOND. >> I AM GLAD WE STATED THAT BECAUSE IT IS GOOD. WE HAVE A GOOD MOTION HERE.

LET'S HEAR THAT, MISS BEST. >> YES.