[1. CALL TO ORDER]
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>> HERE. >> PLEASE RISE FOR THE PLEDGE OF
ALLEGIANCE. >> I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION, UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, LIBERTY
[4.1 Community Redevelopment Agency Advisory Board (CRAAB) Chair Lisa Fiinklestein will present a presentation on parking lots C and D. ]
AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. OUR FIRST ORDER OF BUSINESS AS THE CRA IS TO HEAR PRESENTATION WE HAVE ONE TODAY BY LISA FINKELSTEIN, SHE IS HERE, COME FORWARD.FOLLOW ALONG WITH THE AGENDA AFTER THIS ONE GENERAL DISCUSSION AND ACTION ITEMS AND WILL HAVE TIME FOR PUBLIC COMMENT, IT'S LOOKING PRETTY GOOD.
MS. LISA WELCOME. >> CAROLINE.
>> YOU DO NOT EVEN HAVE TO ASK IT IS AMAZING.
>> TONIGHT WE WILL TALK ABOUT PARKING LOT CMD.
I WANT TO GIVE A LITTLE BACKGROUND ON THIS.
I KNOW THE CITY MANAGER IS RELATIVELY NEW SO I WANT TO GIVE THEM SOME OF THE BACKGROUND ON IT.
IN JANUARY THE CRA ADVISORY BOARD HAD ADOPTED RECOMMENDATIONS REGARDING PARKING, SPECIFICALLY ON THE WEST SIDE OF THE RAILROAD TRACKS, THE GOALS INCLUDED MAXIMIZING THE GREEN SPACE WEST OF THE RAILROAD WHILE PROVIDING A NET-ZERO IMPACT OF PARKING OR PROVIDING ADDITIONAL PARKING OPTIONS EAST OF THE RAILROAD THAT WOULD OFFSET ANY OFFSETS ON THE WEST SIDE. THE OTHER GOAL WAS TO PROVIDE INCREASED WALK ABILITY THROUGH INTERCONNECTING SIDEWALKS ALONG THE WATERFRONT IN THE FRONT STREET SIDE.
TODAY ADDITIONAL PARKING SPOTS HAVE BEEN ADDED TO THE CITY'S PARKING INVENTORY THROUGH MODIFICATION PARKING LOT HE, ADDITIONAL PARKING SPOTS BEHIND PARKING LOT HE TOURED THE RAILROAD AND IN THE RIGHT-OF-WAY AREA ON SOUTH SECOND, THE CURRENT PROPOSAL IS ADDRESSING THE BLIGHT AND LOT CMD AND FORMALIZING THE PARKING AREA AND THE SPACE.
IF YOU LOOK AT THE IMAGE ON THE SCREEN YOU CAN SEE THE NEW CONFIGURATION THAT IS LAID OVER. THAT IS A FAIRLY UP-TO-DATE PICTURE. WHAT YOU ARE SEEING IS THAT IT EXPANDS USABLE PUBLIC GREEN SPACE BY 27% ALLOWING FOR PASSIVE RECREATION AND THE ALONG THE WATER.
IT PROVIDES 74 CODE COMPLIANT SPACES PLUS 10 DEDICATED VOTE TRAILER SPACES AND FIVE GOLF CART SPACES.
OF THE 74 SPACES, FOR OUR HANDICAP ASSESSABLE AND UP TO SEVEN FLEX SPACES AND THE DESIGN WHICH COULD ALSO ACCOMMODATE VOTE TRAILERS OR CHARTER BUSES, SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
YOU CAN SEE ON THE DESIGN WERE NUMBER 14 IS THOSE OF THE DEDICATED VOTE TRAILER SPACES AND NUMBER SIX THOSE HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO BE SPLIT EITHER TWO CARS OR A LONGER VEHICLE.
SO THE SURFACE REMAINS A PER MEAL CRUSHED SHELL IT IS NOT A PAVED SURFACE. IN THIS ALLOWS FOR THE CURRENT COURTS TO REMAIN AS THEY ARE AND PLUS IS AN OPPORTUNITY TO ADD 74 TOURNAMENTS FOR THE INTERNATIONAL TOURNAMENT.
PARKING IS BEEN AN INITIATIVE FOR THIS COMMISSION THROUGHOUT THE YEAR AS EVIDENCED BY THE OTHER IMPROVEMENTS THAT ARE MADE THROUGHOUT THE DOWNTOWN. THE STAFF SUPPORT THIS INITIATIVE AS IT BRINGS PARKING INTO COMPLIANCE AND ALSO BEAUTIFIES THE WATERFRONT AREA. WE'VE TAKEN IT TO THE TRC AND THEY'VE GONE THROUGH WITH THE DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS AND MADE SOME VERY GOOD RECOMMENDATIONS IN THE PLAN HAS BEEN MODIFIED TO REFLECT THE RECOMMENDATIONS. WHAT WERE LOOKING FOR TONIGHT'S SUPPORT FROM THE COMMISSION TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS PROJECT.
WE WOULD LIKE TO TAKE IT TO THE HTC AND GET THEIR THOUGHTS ON IT AND IF EVERYBODY IS OKAY WITH THAT WE WOULD IMPLEMENT IT.
WERE ESTIMATING THE COST WILL BE AROUND 100, $110,000 TO DO THE PROJECT, WELLS CAN I TELL YOU IN THE TIMELINE WOULD BE AS SOON AS
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THIS RUNS ITS COURSE WE CAN START TO WORK ON.IF THERE IS ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THE DESIGN OR ANYTHING AIR CARTEL HAS WORKED VERY HARD ON THIS HE IS PART OF OUR BOARD AND HE CAN ANSWER QUESTIONS, AS CAN JAKE OR JEREMIAH FROM THE STAFF.
>> DO WE WANT TO KICK OFF WITH QUESTIONS FOR MS. LISA OR ANY OTHER PEOPLE HERE ON THE PRO PROJECT.
>> VICE MAYOR. >> LISA IF I'M LOOKING AT THIS PLAN CORRECTLY BUT THE CRA BOARD HAS COME UP WITH IN CONJUNCTION WITH ANYBODY ELSE OR THEMSELVES, HOW MANY INPUTS DO WE RECEIVE.
>> THIS PLAN HAS BEEN A CRA ADVISORY BOARD THIS IS A CONTINUATION OF THE PARKING RECOMMENDATIONS THAT WE HAD SUBMITTED TO YOU GUYS BACK IN JANUARY, DISCONTINUES THAT PROCESS AND IT IS BEEN DRAWN TO THE TRC.
>> HOW MANY SPACES DOES IT CURRENTLY HAVE NOW AND WHERE WE MODIFIER LOSING SPACES, IS THAT A SIDEWALK AT THE END OF THE PARKING PLACES THAT IS NOT THERE NOW IS THAT WHAT I'M SEEING.
>> THERE 74 CODE COMPLIANT SPACES HERE NOW.
THEY WERE 74 SPACES BEFORE. IT IS THERE IS NO GAIN AND NO
LOSS ON THIS. >> WHAT IS DIFFERENT THERE'S NO GAIN OR LOSS I KNOW YOU'RE NOT AN ARCHITECT BUT I'M JUST ASKING
WHAT IS DIFFERENT. >> IT IS FORMALIZING IT IT IS PULLING IT DOWN, THIS IS THE CURB AND SIDEWALK.
SO BY PULLING THAT DOWN AND MAKING THE SPACES UNIFORM AND CONFORM TO THE CODE IS PUTTING THE LANDSCAPE ISLAND IN AND THERE'S ADEQUATE TURNING RADIUS AT THE END FOR LARGER VEHICLES.
OVER HERE THESE OF THE GOLF CART SPACES.
IN THERE IS ALLOWANCE FOR THE POTENTIAL OF THE COMMERCIAL SPACE WHERE THE ATLANTIC SEA SEAFOOD.
>> SO THERE IS MODIFICATION FOR ATLANTIC SEAFOOD WHEN IT DOES
GET CHANGED. >> RIGHT NOW IT'S HERE COULD BE
>> THIS MIGHT BE A QUESTION FOR JEREMIAH BUT THE NEXT QUESTION FOR INSTANCE WHEN WE USE THE PARKING LOT THIS PARKING LOT SPECIFICALLY AND THEY PACKED THE CARS INTO THIS PARKING LOT HOW WILL THEY PACKED THE CARS INTO THIS PARKING LOT.
WILL IT BE DIFFERENT OR REDUCE THE NUMBER PARKING SPACES FOR
THAT EVENT. >> I BELIEVE IT WOULD.
NOW IT'S IN AFRICA COMPLIANT PARKING.
>> IT WOULD ACCOMMODATE SPECIAL EVENTS.
USING .13 THE ACCESS POINT IF YOU WANT TO BRING VEHICLES IN THEIR AND SERVICE ANYTHING ON THE WATERFRONT WERE HOSTED EV
EVENT. >> YOU COULD USE A DIFFERENT
VEHICLE. >> THERE IS VEHICLE ACCESS IS NOT GOING TO BE REGULAR VEHICLE ACCESS IT WOULD ONLY BE SPECIAL EVENTS FOR MAINTENANCE, EMERGENCY.
>> I'M GOOD FOR NOW MAYBE SOME VIDEOS HAS A FEW QUESTIONS.
>> LEBLANC WHAT IS COMMISSIONER. >> IS NOT IN THE MIDDLE OF THE VOTE RAMP, THE GOLF CART PARKING?
>> THE VOTE RAMP IS SET TO BE NARROWED FROM THREE LANES TO TWO LANES AS PART OF THE RESILIENCY PROJECT SO THIS ACCOMMODATES THAT THIS IS NOT THE VOTE RAMP THIS IS THE COURTS.
>> NOT TO GET AHEAD OF HERSELF THE VOTE RAMP WILL BE NORTH.
>> YOU TO BE IN THE SAME SPOT I JUST NEED TO BE NARROWER.
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>> RIGHT NOW WILL MAKE THESE THE PRIMARY AND WILL CLOSE THIS OFF, THAT'S ALL THAT WILL CHANGE. THE RAMP WILL STILL BE RUNNING
AWAY IN THE PARKING SPACES HERE. >> I HAVE A QUESTION MIND REGARDING THE VOTE TRAILER FLEX COULD ACCOMMODATE TRAILER OR CARS I'M LOOKING AT THE BEFORE-AND-AFTER IN THE WAY WERE GOING AFTER THE GRASS ISLANDS WERE GETTING SPACES BACK BY ADDING PARKING THERE. IT LOOKS LIKE IF YOU COUNT THE FLEX AS A TRAILER IN THIS CONFIGURATION WE HAVE MORE TRAILER PARKING AND WE HAD BEFORE.
>> THAT IS THE CASE. >> COMEDY ADDITIONAL TRAILER
PARKING SPOTS ARE WE ADDING. >> SEVEN.
>> SORRY EIGHT. >> I THINK THE COMMUNITY WOULD
CERTAINLY LOVE THEM. >> VICE MAYOR.
>> I KNOW THIS IS THE CART IN FRONT OF THE HORSE BUT WE JUST DID THE SEAWALL IN THIS AREA AND I KNOW WE WANT TO MOVE ALONG WITH THE REST OF THE PROJECT. WITH THIS ARE WE BRINGING THIS AND BY ADJUSTING IT SO THERE'S MORE GREEN SPACE OR HOW MUCH
MORE 27 WERE PRESENT. >> EXACTLY.
>> WERE GAINING THE GREEN SPACE AND IT WILL GIVE US OPPORTUNITY TO MAKE IT GRASS. IT IS AN OPEN AREA AND WHATEVER'S GOING TO HAPPEN NEXT IN THE SPACE WOULD HAVE TO BE
DETERMINED. >> I THINK THAT'S THE DETERMINATION WE NEED TO GET DOWN TO.
I DON'T MIND DOING THIS BUT I THINK WE NEED TO KNOW THE END GAME I WANT TO KNOW THE END GAME WHEN WE START SPENDING MONEY.
WILL WE PUT MORE GAZEBOS, PICNIC TABLES, LEAVE IT GREEN, BUILD A MINIATURE AMPHITHEATER. I'M TRYING TO GET TO WHAT IS THE INDIANS ARE AND I THINK A LOT OF PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY WANT AND PUT WHETHER HE NEEDS TO STAY LIKE IT IS OR MAKE CHANGES IN
THE AREA. >> I THINK THE BEAUTY OF DOING THIS FOR ADDRESSING THE PARKING ISSUE BUT ALLOWING FOR THE GREEN SPACE STILL TO BE A BLANK SLATE SO CHOOSE FOR PASSIVE RECREATION AND TEMPORARY EVENTS OR WHATEVER ELSE WE WOULD WANT TO USE IT FOR BUT THAT DECISION ISN'T DEPENDED ON THIS PIECE OF THE PROJECT.
>> THE SIDEWALK. WHAT PURPOSE DO WE NEED THE SIDEWALK THERE. WHAT PURPOSE ARE WE SERVING.
>> I THINK THE GENERAL FEELING, CONNECTIVITY AND WALK ABILITY AS PART OF THE VISION FOR THE COMMUNITY.
BY ADDING A SIDEWALK YOU WILL SEE IT CONNECTS ON BOTH ENDS IN THE RIVERWALK AND ENABLE SOMEONE TO GET OUT OF THE CAR WHETHER IT BE A REGULAR SPACE AND HANDICAP ACCESSIBLE AND RIGHT ONTO THE SIDEWALK AND YOU CAN MAKE THE LOOP IF THEY WOULD LIKE TO ESPECIALLY IF THEY HAVE MOBILITY ISSUES SO THEY CAN MARKET.
>> IT WILL CONNECT ALL THE WAY AROUND WITH THE SEAWALL.
>> AT THE FAR END AT THE VERY EDGE OF THE PAPER THAT WOULD BE A POTENTIAL SIDEWALK THAT COULD CONTINUE THAT'S NOT PART OF WHAT WERE TALKING ABOUT TODAY BUT IT IS AN OPTION IF YOU WANT TO CONTINUE THAT DOWN AS THE SEAWALL CONTINUE SOUTH.
>> ALRIGHT ANY FURTHER COMMENTS AFTER WE FINISH THE QUESTIONS WILL GO TO COMMISSIONER DISCUSSION AND BEFORE WE GO THERE WE WILL GO TO COMMISSIONER ANTUN WITH QUESTIONS.
>> WHAT ARE THE SMALL DETAILS I KNOW WE HAVE RECYCLING WITH THOSE BE RELOCATED BASED ON WHERE THE PARKING SPACES ARE PLANNED TO BE PUT DOWN OR WILL THOSE BE PUSHED A LITTLE BIT
FURTHER BACK. >> THEY ARE WAY OVER HERE.
>> THEY USED TO BE AT THE END OF THE.
[5. DISCUSSION - DIRECTION - ACTION ITEMS]
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>> WITH THAT IF THERE'S NO FURTHER QUESTION WE CAN MOVE ON TO THE DISCUSSION AND DIRECTION OF THE MEETING.
THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THIS PLAN FORWARD WOULD ANYONE LIKE TO
KICK US OFF AT THE DISCUSSION. >> COMMISSIONER ASPEN.
>> I MET WITH MR. BARTLETT AND I DON'T KNOW IF THIS IS THE EXACT PLAN THAT WE BOUNCED AROUND A LITTLE BIT I APPRECIATE THE CRA ADVISORY BOARD PUTTING IN A LOT OF EFFORT AND TIME TO COME UP WITH A SOLID PLAN. I'M LIKE THE VICE MAYOR AND LIKE TO SEE HOW IT FITS IN THE OVERALL PICTURE OF THINGS BUT I CERTAINLY DON'T PROBLEM WITH THE SUBTLE I THINK IT'S A MATTER OF WHEN WE GET TO. THERE ARE PIECES TO THE PUZZLE THAT WE NEED TO FIGURE OUT BUT IN GENERAL I LIKE IT.
>> THEY CAN FOR THE COMMENT. >> I THINK THIS IS AS GOOD AS IT
GETS FOR PARKING. >> IT'S ALL THE NECESSARY THINGS AND WALK ABILITY FOR THE COMMUNITY AS PARKING NEUTRAL AND VOTE PARKING. THIS IS PART OF THE PLAN.
AS FOR WHAT'S IN THE INTERIOR AS SOME OF YOU HEARD ME SAY IN THE PAST AT THE SANDWICH THIS IS ONE SIDE AND THE OTHER SIDE IS THE SEAWALL THEN YOU HAVE TO FIGURE OUT WHAT GOES IN THE SANDWICH.
I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THE CRA AT THE COMMISSION'S PLEASURE OR I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW THE PROCESS HOW WORKING TO FILL IN THE SANDWICH MEAT WHAT IS THE PROCESS THIS IS BEEN GOING ON FOR 40 YEARS SO HERE WE ARE KNOW HOW THE SEAWALL AND IT'S WELL DONE AND WE HAVE A PLAN FOR THE PARKING AND IT'S WELL DONE AND ALSO BIG BUSES CAN GO THROUGH THEIR AND TURNAROUND.
THE DUMPSTERS OVER HERE IN ATLANTIC SEAWALL CAN COME OVER HERE IF SO CHOOSE. EXTRA GREEN SPACES ALL THIS WHITE STUFF I THINK WERE AT THE POINT WHERE WE SHOULD APPROVE AND WHAT IS THE PROCESS GOING FORWARD AND FILLING IN THE AND BETWEEN. WHILE WERE DOING THE PROCESS BRETT SAID SOMETHING ABOUT WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN WHEN
THEIR LEASE IS OVER. >> THANK YOU COMMISSIONER.
>> THANK YOU, MAYOR. THIS CORRUPTION IS DIRECTED AT TAMMY HAS YOUR OFFICE OR ANYBODY HEARD ANY INPUT AS FAR AS THE
TIMELINE OR UP-TO-DATE PLANS. >> I HAVE NOT.
>> I SPOKE TO HIM A LITTLE WHILE BACK BUT I'VE NOT HEARD ANYTHING
>> COMMISSIONER ROSCOE HAD. >> I TALKED TO LARRY YESTERDAY.
UNFORTUNATELY HIS BROTHER HAD AN ACCIDENT INTO SERIOUS MEDICAL PROBLEM AND THAT TIED HIM UP. HE ASKED HE WAS IN THE PROCESS OF TRYING TO MAKE APPOINTMENTS WHILE OTHER COMMISSIONERS AND TRYING TO TALK ABOUT WHAT HE WANTS TO DO AND HOPEFULLY PUT THAT ON THE AGENDA FOR THE SECOND MEETING IN NOVEMBER.
HE LOST TRACK WITH HIS BROTHER GETTING INJURED.
BUT THAT IS HIS PLEASURE OF WHAT HE SAID TO ME.
>> I'M SORRY TO HEAR ABOUT THAT. MY WHOLE POINT IF WE'RE GOING TO FOCUS ON THIS AND ADDRESS THE PARKING AND SPEND MONEY I WOULD LIKE TO FINISH THE WHOLE PHASE ALL AT THE SAME TIME.
I THINK WE NEED A FINISHED PLAN WHEN I GO TO BUILD A HOUSE ON NOT SAYING TO DELAY I JUST WANT TO KNOW EVERYTHING SUPPOSED TO LOOK LIKE BEFORE I STARTED. WE AT THE CITY SHOULD KNOW THE SAME AND GO AHEAD AND COUNT FOUR AND DO IT.
WE DON'T WERE TO BE A NO MAN'S LAND.
OBVIOUSLY WE KNOW YOU FOR GOING TO GRANT SOMETHING IN THE AREA AND WHAT'S GOING TO GO ONE I KINDA WANT TO KNOW WHAT'S GOING
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TO GO ON IN THE REST OF THE AREA.IF THERE IS SOME ADJUSTMENT WHAT WE COULD DO OR COULDN'T DO THE PARKING BUT IF THERE'S SOME ADJUSTMENT DEPENDING ON WHAT WE PLAN ON AND IF WE PLAN ON WHAT OR IF WE PLAN ON PUTTING IN ALL THE GREEN SPACE ESPECIALLY THE 27% WHETHER IT'S BENCHES, GAZEBOS, A LITTLE FROM OR MINIATURE INPUT THEATER JUST FOR PEOPLE THAT COULD HAVE SIX TRUMP PLAYERS WERE ALL THESE DIFFERENT THINGS THAT CAN HAPPEN IN HER AREA AND HER PUBLIC SPACE BECAUSE WE MIGHT BE LOSING SOME OF HER OTHER AREAS.
I WOULD ASSUME THAT SOME OF THESE IDEAS MIGHT BE WHAT WE WANT TO TALK ABOUT HOW WE CAN POSITION OR GO ABOUT IT.
I LIKE THE PARKING PLAN AND SEVEN ADDITIONAL TRAILER PARKING SPOTS AND AS LONG AS WE HAVE THE SAME AMOUNT BEFORE UNABLE TO USE IT IN PARK A BUNCH OF CARS OFTEN IT IS ALL THUMBS UP FOR ME.
>> THANK YOU VICE MAYOR. I WOULD LIKE TO ASK A QUESTION READ EITHER JEREMIAH OR CHARLIE I CANNOT IMAGINE THIS WOULD COST VERY MUCH. IT LOOKS LIKE THE COST OF THE SIDEWALK IMPLANTING TURF AND GRASS WHAT WOULD BE A BASIC ESTIMATE. WE SAW GRAVEL THERE CURRENTLY.
>> JEREMIAH AND I GOT TOGETHER AND LOOKED AT UNIT PRICES IN THE SIDEWALK RECENTLY TREATED PRETTY SIMPLE IT'S WHEEL STOPS AN ADDITIONAL GRAVEL, SIDEWALKS AND GREETING.
LISA SAID A PRETTY CLOSE IS WITHIN 95, $110,000.
>> THE ME OF COMMISSIONER ANTUN. >> TO ADDRESS COMMISSIONER ROSS AND VICE MAYOR STURGES WHAT IS THE FINISHED PLAN OR THE ME IN THE SANDWICH THAT THE PLATELETS BEEN PROPOSED WHAT MANY POTENTIAL IDEAS AND I WOULD LIKE TO SEE IF THERE'S CONSENSUS TO ASSESS ERIE TO INVESTIGATE TO - 3 SIMPLE PLANS OF WHAT'S GOING TO BE THERE AND MAYBE THAT'LL BE THE NEXT THING THAT COMES TO THE
COMMISSION. >> AND WHAT IS GOING TO BE
THERE. >> VICE MAYOR I DON'T WANT TO PUT WORDS IN YOUR MOUTH. I WANT TO MAKE SURE I UNDERSTAND YOUR OPINION. YOU LIKE THE PLAN COMMISSIONER JUMPING. YOU'RE SAYING YOU LIKE THE PLAN BEFORE YOU MOVE FORWARD YOU WANT TO SEE WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO
WITH ALL THE GREEN SPACE. >> CORRECT.
>> I DO KNOW THE COMMUNITY AND I KNOW AT THE END OF THE DAY I THINK WE NEED TO COME UP WITH AN ANSWER, DON'T TAKE FOREVER MAKING APPROVAL AND WHATEVER IT IS THE COMMUNITY DECIDES, THE MAJORITY THAT'S WHAT WE GO WITH. I UNDERSTAND THE WHOLE PURPOSE IN HAVING THE TALK COURTS OF WHEN THE TALK COMES DO WE WANT TO LEAVE THE TALK COURT THERE PERMANENTLY WHEN ONLY ONE OR FIVE PEOPLE USE IT. I'VE BEEN DOWN THAT I DON'T HOW MANY TIMES, SOMETIMES ON SUNDAY MORNING AFTER CHURCH OR BEFORE CHURCH I'LL GO OUT THERE, PARK, MAYBE EAT A BAGEL, WHATEVER AND NOBODIES AFTER. I GO IN THE MIDDLE THE DAY AND SOMETIMES NOBODY OUT THERE, THE NIGHT NOBODIES OUT THERE.
IT'S NOT BEING USED AT THE BEST POSSIBLE USE.
I UNDERSTATED FOR TOURNAMENT IS DOWN THERE WE WANT TO PACKET FOR THE TOURNAMENT IN THE EVENT. I UNDERSTAND THAT COMPLETELY.
I THINK THERE COULD BE OTHER IDEAS AND I'M NOT A PERFECTIONIST OR KNOW ALL OF THE IDEAS BUT I LIKE THE PLAN AND THE PARKING IN THE SIDEWALK. I LIKE ALL OF THAT I THINK IT'S FINE AND I THINK IT'S GREAT AND I WANT TO COMPLETE PLAN AND
LET'S APPROVE IT AND MOVE ON. >> I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE THE CONCEPT OF THIS PLAN AND THE COA COME BACK THE COA ADVISORY BOARD COME BACK TO THE COA WHICH MEETS THREE MONTHS FROM NOW WITH SOME VISIONS TO ALTERNATIVES OF WHAT CAN BE DONE IN THE GREEN SPACE AND PERHAPS THEY SHOULD COLLABORATE WITH APPROXIMATE DEPARTMENT TO DO THAT.
>> I WILL SECOND. >> WAVE MOTION INTO SECOND.
FURTHER DISCUSSION? >> COMMISSIONER AYSCUE.
>> PART OF THE PIECES OF THE PUZZLE I WAS TALKING ABOUT.
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VICE MAYOR HIT HARD IS ATLANTIC SEAFOOD.THE COMMUNITY INPUT THAT HAPPEN WITH ATLANTIC SEAFOOD IS REALLY WHAT WILL MAKE OR BREAK THE ENTIRE PLAN.
I THINK WE CAN ALL AGREE THIS IS A GREAT PLANET BUT UNTIL WE CAN KNOW WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN WITH ATLANTIC SEAFOOD IN THE AREA IS GOING TO BE DIFFICULT TO SAY WE APPROVE THIS AND WHEN ATLANTIC SEAFOOD COMES BACK WITH A PLAN IF IT'S UNIVERSALLY REJECTED WERE GOING BACK TO SQUARE ONE ALMOST EVEN WITH THIS.
THIS IS THE COMPONENT OF 17 MOVING ATLANTIC SEAFOOD OVER.
I AM FINE WITH THE PLAN I SAID THAT IN THE VICE MAYOR HIT IT RIGHT ON THE HEAD ATLANTIC SEAFOOD WILL MAKE OR BREAK THE ENTIRE THING. I GET MS. FINKELSTEIN THAT HAS TO BE AN ESSENTIAL WAY TO THAT IS THE VIEW QUARTER COMING RIGHT DOWN AND THAT'S A VIEW QUARTER THIS GOING "SEE.
THEN WE WOULD HAVE TO UNDERSTAND WHERE THAT SITS BUT THAT'S REALLY WHERE I AM I DON'T MIND COMING UP WITH IT BUT UNTIL WE GET TO THAT PART OF THE PUZZLE IS CAN BE VERY DIFFICULT TO PUT
TOGETHER. >> THANK YOU MR. ASKEY.
I SEE YOUR POINT. AND COMMISSIONER ROSS FOR
FURTHER DISCUSSION. >> ALWAYS GET A POINT THAT THEY SAID WE WOULD KNOW WITHIN TWO OR THREE WEEKS WHAT HIS PLANS ARE AND THEY COULD INCORPORATE THAT WITH THE CRA MEETING SO I THINK THAT WOULD PUT INTO THE THREE MONTHS TIMEFRAME.
AND IT'S A CONCEPT PLAN IT IS NOT SPECIFICS.
IN THE CONCEPT PLAN WE HAVE A SEVEN YEAR LEASE WITH ATLANTIC SEAFOOD AND THEY HAVE TO MOVE THIS SOMEWHERE ERWIN WE WANT TO BUILD THE SEAWALL WHICH IS NOT FUNDED AT THE MOMENT MOVING THIS OVER FIXED SOON WITH THE CONCERT.
I'M COMFORTABLE WITH THREE MONTHS AND COMING UP WITH ALTERNATIVES AND WE CAN MOVE ON INSTEAD OF SITTING AROUND TWIDDLING OUR THUMBS AND WAITING FOR KIDDO.
>> THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER ROSS I'LL TELL YOU WHAT I LIKE ABOUT THE PLAN. I LIKE THE SIDEWALK AND THE REASON BEING WHENEVER A PARK DOWN THERE NOW, WHEN YOU PARK DOWN ON CMD THERE IS NO WAY WITHOUT WALKING ON THE ROAD TO GET TO DOWNTOWN YOU TO GO TO THE MAIN ROAD AND WALK AROUND THIS WOULD FACILITATE IT A CROSSWALK AND IT WOULD MAKE IT EASIER FOR THE PUBLIC AND DISABLED FOLKS WHICH I REALLY THINK IS PROBABLY A GOOD GOAL IF WE CAN ACHIEVE THEM.
COMMISSIONER ROSS CAN YOU RESTATE YOUR MOTION WARMER TIME I WANT TO MAKE SURE YOU UNDERSTAND THIS IS A CONCEPT.
>> THAT WE APPROVE THIS CONCEPT AND WE TASK THE CRA WITH AUGMENTING IT WITH A PLAN OR PLANS FOR THE SPACE IN BETWEEN THE PARKING PLAN CONCEPT IN THE SEAWALL THAT IS ALREADY BUILT.
>> THAT MAKES SENSE TO ME BECAUSE I THINK THAT INCORPORATES WITH THE VICE MAYOR AND COMMISSIONER ASKEY WAS SAYING. WITHOUT MOTION WE LIKE THE PLAN AND WOULD LIKE HELP MAINTAINS PARKING AND TRAILER SPACES AND WITH THE TASKING AT OUR NEXT SERIES MEETING THREE MONTHS FROM NOW SEE THE OPTIONS OF WHAT WOULD BE IN THE NEWFOUND GREEN SPACE. THANK YOU FOR THAT MOTION DO WE HAVE A SECOND AND ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION.
IS THERE ANY PUBLIC, IS NOT ON THE AGENDA BECAUSE WE DID NOT KNOW WE WOULD BE VOTING BUT ANYTIME WE VOTE WE ASKED FOR PUBLIC COMMENT IS THERE ANYONE THAT WISHES TO SPEAK ON THIS MATTER AND MAKE THEIR VOICE HEARD AS TO WHAT THEY THINK.
>> PICOT REDHEAD. >> PETE STEVENSON BERNADINO.
A GENERAL COMMENT. IF YOU WANT TO LOOK AT A SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT ALTERNATIVE. YOU MIGHT BE ABLE TO MARGINALIZE
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THIS AND DO SOME OF THE PARKING NOW AND GET STARTED WITH THE PROJECT. I ABSOLUTELY AGREE WE WOULD ALL LIKE TO SEE IT MIGHT BE A WAY TO PARTITION IT OUT TO SOME EXTENT AND DO PART OF IT NOW AND GET THE PART THAT IS FOREVER PARKING, GET IT GOING TO MOVE THE CAN DOWN THE ROAD JUST ATHOUGHT OF ANOTHER ALTERNATIVE. >> ANY FURTHER PUBLIC COMMENT.
>> MS. LISA PLEASE. >> I WANT TO ADD ONE MORE THING AS A RESULT OF THE DISCUSSION. I THINK WE FELT THIS PARKING PLAN IS NOT DEPENDENT ON HAVING A PLAN FOR THE CENTER PORTIO THE GREEN SPACE HOWEVER, WERE VERY HAPPY AT YOUR DIRECTION TO CONTINUE TO DETERMINE WHAT THAT MIGHT BE.
ONE OF THE BENEFITS WILL COME OUT OF TAKING THE STEP IS IT OVERLY VALLEY THE COMMUNITY BEHIND GIVING THEM THE VISION FOR WHAT THE SPACE CAN BE IF YOU STAND AT THE END OF AN STREET THERE IS A WHITE FIELD OF SHALL IN RAGGED GRASS IS NOT REALLY WELL-DEFINED YOU'RE NOT SURE WHAT IT IS OR WHERE YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO PARK. I THINK IT STARTS TO SET THE TONE FOR WHAT IT COULD BE AND GET PEOPLE DIVISION, SOMETHING IS HAPPENING AND NOTHINGS HAPPENING FOR A LONG TIME.
AND THEN ALLOWS US TO TAKE THE MOMENTUM I KEEP MOVING WITH WHAT GOES INTO I THINK TAKING THE TIME IS FINE BUT I THINK WE CAN MOVE FORWARD WITHOUT IMPACTING WHAT IS GOING TO GO IN THE CENTER PORTION THAT WAS THE GENERAL FEELING WITH HER CRA
>> ANY FURTHER COMMISSIONER DISCUSSION.
>> VICE MAYOR. >> I KNOW THIS IS FURTHER DOWN THE LINE BUT IT LOOKS LIKE THE FIRST FOUR ALMOST LOOKS LIKE A LANDSCAPED PLANTER IN BETWEEN PARKING SPACES, I'M NOT QUITE SURE WHAT THAT IS. YOU BROUGHT THIS UP ABOUT GETTING MORE WILL PARKING BUT TAKE IT AWAY THE LANDSCAPE BARRIERS THAT ARE OUT THERE IN THE PARKING LOT.
>> I THINK I KNOW WHY THAT IS THERE, THAT IS THE TURNAROUND LOCATION. THEY NEED THAT.
>> NOT ONLY THAT BUT ARLENE DEVELOPING CODE FOR THE TRC
AFTER LANDSCAPING SPACES. >> I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE PUT NEW LANDSCAPING OUT. I THINK THAT IS PART OF THE PLAN. ESPECIALLY I UNDERSTAND ALL THE PARKING IS GOING TO BE THE SAME AND MORE TRAILER PARKING IS GREAT. BY COMPACTING IS CHANGING BY ADDING 27% OF GREEN SPACE WHICH IS GREAT TO GIVE THE SAME AMOUNT OF PARKING SPACES. I JUST WANT TO BE CAUGHT VISIT THAT WE ARE HITTING ALL THE BASES AT THE SAME TIME.
>> WE HAVE A LITTLE BIT WARTIME I WOULD ASK ONE MORE THING SOMETHING WE COULD GET STARTED ON IN THIS PLAN THAT IS A TRAILER PARKING PORTION. IF YOU LOOK AT THAT PORTION I THINK IT'S A NO-BRAINER. THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THAT AND WHAT CURRENTLY IS THERE IS AN INCREASE IN TRAILER PARK AND MAKE IT MORE EFFICIENT WITH OIL AND IN THE TURNAROUND AND WE COULD GO AHEAD AND GET STARTED AND I THINK THE COMMUNITY WOULD FIND OUT A NO-BRAINER AND WE WOULD BE IN A BETTER PLACE WE COME BACK IN THREE MONTHS. IF SOMEBODY WANTS TO ADD THAT TO
IT I WOULD ACCEPT. >> THE PROBLEM WITH THAT THIS IS
NOT BUDGETED. >> WE WOULD GIVE THEM THE
OPPORTUNITY TO DO SO. >> COMMISSIONER AYSCUE.
>> ARE THERE NOT REFUNDS AVAILABLE TO US?
>> MS. PAULINE DO WE HAVE CRA FUNDS.
>> WE HAVE MONEY IN THE RESERVE THAT WE CAN TRANSFER TO A
PROJECT THAT YOU APPROVE. >> THE SAME MOTION WITH THE
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CAVEAT THAT IN A MONTH STAFF COME BACK WITH A PLAN FOR APPROVAL TO WHAT THEY WOULD DO FOR THE VOTE TRAILER PARKING.>> ALL SECOND NOTICE SLIGHTLY AMENDED LOOKING GOOD.
ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION, SEE N NONE, THE CITY COURT PLEASE CALL
THE ROLL. >> COMMISSIONER ROSS.
>> COMMISSIONER AYSCUE. >> YOU.
>> VICE MAYOR STURGES. >> MAYOR BEAN.
>> THAT PASSES 5 - 0. >> THAT THE ONE ITEM WE ARE THE CRA BOARD DOES ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANYTHING.
SEE NONE WE WILL SEE YOU GUYS FOR THE REGULARLY SCHEDULED CITY COMMISSION MEETING AT 6:00 O'CLOCK
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