[4.2 PROCLAMATION - "NATIONAL COLONIAL HERITAGE MONTH" - Recognizes the month of October as, “National Colonial Heritage Month.” National Society of Colonial Dames XVII Century, Princess Amelia Chapter President Ms. Jane Collins will be present to accept the Proclamation. ]

>> HEADING DOWN THE LIST WE HAVE OUR NEXT PROCLAMATION WHICH IS FOR THE NATIONAL

COLONIAL HERITAGE MONTH. >> IT IS GREAT TO SEE YOU TODAY.

WE ARE GOING TO PROCLAIM IT NATIONAL COLONIAL HERITAGE MONTH SO HERE WE GO.

WHEREAS ESTABLISHED IN 1950 THE NATIONAL SOCIETY COLONIAL DAVE'S.

I HAVE 17. IT'S THE 17TH CENTURY AS AN ORGANIZATION OF WOMEN 18 YEARS OF AGE OR OVER WHO ARE LINEAL DESCENDENTS OF AN INCEST OR WHO ARE PRIOR TO 1701 AND ONE OF THE ORIGINAL COLONIES OF THE USA. WHEREAS THE SOCIETY IS COMPRISED OF CHAPTERS LOCATED IN 46 STATES. THE DISTRICT OF COLUMBIA AND CANADA. THEY SHARE A COMMON INTEREST IN AMERICAN HISTORY WITH LOVE AND RESPECT FOR OUR GREAT NATION AND A DESIRE TO WORK TOGETHER IN HARMONIOUS FELLOWSHIP.

THIS IS AN EFFORT TO PERPETUATE THE MEMORY OF THE COLONISTS AND THEIR LASTING LEGACY WHICH IS THE FOUNDATION. WHEREAS THE PRINCESS EMILIO CHAPTER OF THE NATIONAL SOCIETY IN THE 17TH CENTURY IS LOCALLY SPONSORING NATIONAL COLONIAL HERITAGE MONTH DURING THE MONTH OF OCTOBER 2023 WHICH IS THIS MONTH WHERE IS BY VIRTUE OF THEIR LINEAL DISSENT FROM OUR NATION'S EARLIEST ARRIVALS THE MEMBERS OF THE SOCIETY FEEL AN OBLIGATION TO HONOR THE HARDSHIPS AND HEROISM OF THOSE THAT SOUGHT SPIRITUAL AND ECONOMIC FREEDOM WHEREAS THIS COUNTRY'S FIRST ARRIVAL CONTINUE TO CONVEY THE TWO TRUE MEANING OF INHERITANCE BY

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REMINDING US THAT THE SALUTE AND THE FREE COUNTRY AND RESPECTING ITS FLAG WITHIN ENEMIES. THEREFORE IT BE IT RESOLVED IN THE CITY OF FROM DANA BEACH OFFICIALLY JOINS WITH THE PRINCESS EMILIO CHAPTER OF THE NATIONAL COLONIAL HERITAGE SOCIETY AND PROCLAIMING THE MONTH OF OCTOBER 2023 AS NATIONAL COLONIAL HERITAGE MONTH. WE WILL PUT THE CITY STILL ON THIS PROCLAMATION.

WOULD YOU LIKE TO SAY A FEW WORDS? >> THANK YOU MAYOR FOR BRETT GIVING US THIS PROCLAMATION RECOGNIZING THE COLONIAL HERITAGE MONTH.

AS YOU SEE WE HAVE A POSTER ABOUT IT. OUR CHAPTER IS THE PRIMARY FOCUS WHICH IS TO RECOGNIZE THE HISTORICAL PRESERVATION. ONE OF OUR MEMBERS HAS DESIGNED THE POSTER ABOUT THE HERITAGE MONTH AND WE ARE DISTRIBUTING THIS TO LOCAL SCHOOLS.

[APPLAUSE]. >> IF YOU ARE HERE FOR THE PLANNING AND CONSERVATION PROCLAMATION DON'T WORRY IT WILL BE ON THE NEXT CITY MINIS MEETING'S AGENDA.

>> I CAN TELL THE PEOPLE ARE ANXIOUS TO HEAR THAT SUE WILL BRING FORTH TO YOU.

[5. CONSENT AGENDA ]

WE DO HAVE A REQUEST TO SPEAK COMING UP LATER IN THE MEETING BUT WE ARE ON ITEM 5 CONSENT AGENDA. BEFORE I HEAR A MOTION I WILL LIKE TO ASK THE COMMISSION IT IF IT IS YOUR PLEASURE AND LOOKING AT ITEM 6.1. 6.3 CLICK SLOW DOWN.

>> 6.4 AND 6.7. >> NOTICED 6.4 AND NOTE TO 6. .

>> I'M GOOD WITH 6.1. >> WITH THE OBJECTION I WILL MOVE ITEM 6.1 TO THE CONSENT AGENDA. I WANT TO REMIND THE PUBLIC JUST LIKE ANY OTHER ITEM ON OUR AGENDA, THE CONSENT AGENDA IS TO SAVE THE PEOPLE'S TIME. WE KNOW THAT YOU COME FOR A SPECIFIC ITEM ON THE AGENDA SO IF IT IS SOMETHING THAT DOES NOT NEED TO BE SPOKEN ABOUT OR IF IT IS SOMETHING THAT WILL GET A FIVE AND ZERO VOTE OR SOMETHING WE CAN DO BY CONSENT BUT IF YOU ARE HERE TO SPEAK ON AN ITEM JUST LIKE ANY OTHER ITEM YOU CAN PUT IN A REQUEST TO SPEAK FORM AND WE WILL OF COURSE HEAR YOUR PUBLIC COMMENT ON THAT.

SO WE HAVE ADDED 6.1 TO THE CONTCONSENT AGENDA. BEFORE I GO IS THERE A REQUEST TO SPEAK ON ANYTHING ON THE CONSENT AGENDA? HEARING ON DOING YOUR MOTION.

>> MOTION TO APPROVE. >> SECOND X SEEING NO FURTHER DISCUSSION LET'S CALL A VOTE.

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[6.2 LICENSE AGREEMENT - PEDESTRIAN CONNECTION - RESOLUTION 2023-178 GRANTING A LICENSE AGREEMENT TO OCEAN COAST FERNANDINA LLC AND AMELIA FERNANDINA LLC ON UNIMPROVED FIRST AVENUE FOR THE PURPOSE OF BUILDING AND MAINTAINING A PEDESTRIAN CONNECTION; AUTHORIZING EXECUTION; AND PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE. ]

>> ITEM 6.2 IS THE LICENSE AGREEMENT AND PEDESTRIAN CONNECTION.

>> THIS IS A REQUEST FROM THE OWNER OF TWO HOTELS ON SACKLER ROAD.

WHAT'S KNOWN AS OCEAN POST HOTEL AND AT THE CORNER THERE THE AMELIA HOTEL AT THE BEACH.

THEY WOULD LIKE TO CONNECT THE TWO PROPERTIES BY BUILDING OF BOARDWALK OR WALKWAY ACROSS THE FIRST AVENUE RIGHT WAY. FIRST THEY ASKED THE CITY FOR AN EASEMENT AGREEMENT.

THAT WASN'T SOMETHING THAT I THOUGHT WE SHOULD DO BECAUSE IT'S A TYPE OF PROPERTY RIGHT.

LICENSE AGREEMENT, THIS PARTICULAR AGREEMENT TO ALLOW FOR THE CONSTRUCTION OF THE WALKWAY AND I UNDERSTAND THAT IT HAS A ROUGH DRAWING WITH IT. THAT IS WHAT WE GOT.

THE LICENSE AGREEMENT CAN BE TERMINATED BY THE CITY WITH FOUR MONTHS NOTICE.

120 DAYS NOTICE SO THERE IS NO PROPERTY RIGHT AND THIS IS NOT FOR A PERIOD OF YEARS NECESSARILY. THE CITY NEEDS THE RIGHT-OF-WAY THEY WOULD GIVE NOTICE AND THEN

REMOVE THE FORK BOARDWALK. >> TO YOUR MOTION? HERE THE MOTION IN A SECOND.

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IF IT IS DONE IT WILL MINIMIZE CANOPY LOSS AND WITH A LARGE ENOUGH STAND THAT ACTUALLY SPANS THE INTEGRITY OF THAT DEMON WITHOUT DAMAGING THE DUNE.

I WILL BACK UP. I MEANT TO PRINT WILL COPIES OF THIS BUT MY PRINTER WAS SLOW WITH THAT. THE SPAN ACROSS THE FARM IF YOU HAVE NOT BEEN THERE OR LOOKED AT GOOGLE MAPS IS 70 OR 80 FEET. IT'S A LOT.

MOST OF YOU KNOW HOW WHEN YOU OPEN UP THE CANOPY OF THE SALT WATER CAN GET INTO THE COUNT THE CANOPY AND THIS IS THE CITY PROPERTY. WHAT WOULD HAPPEN.

I DON'T FULLY UNDERSTAND THE REQUEST OF THIS PROPERTY OWNER BECAUSE IT'S A RECTANGLE.

YOU ARE EITHER ALLOWED TO GO ACROSS THE WALK OVER TO THE OTHER HOTEL AND THEN YOU GO DOWN TO SADLER WITH THE CIRCLE. THEY PROBABLY HAVE MORE STEPS BECAUSE THEY HAVE TO GO UP THE CROSSOVER. THEY WOULD HIT A POINT ON FLETCHER WHERE IT'S NOT SAFE TO CROSS AND THEN IF THEY CROSS THEY WOULD BE AT A PRIVATE PROPERTY.

THEY HAVE TO GET THEMSELVES TO THE CIRCLE AT SADLER AND FLETCHER.

I'M NOT SURE IN WHAT WAY THE RESIDENTS WILL BENEFIT FROM THIS OR GRANTING THIS.

I CAN'T ACTUALLY THINK OF A SINGLE ONE. ACTUALLY I'M THINKING OF THE TOURISTS THEY COULD ACROSS 200 FEET THROUGH THE CROSSOVER THAT WOULD SAVE 200 FEET OF PUBLIC SIDEWALK. I DO NOT UNDERSTAND WHY. MY BIGGER CONCERN IS WHAT WOULD HAPPEN IN OCEAN AVENUE. PEOPLE DON'T WANT TO GO UP THOSE BIG CROSSWALKS.

THEY CUT THE DUNE. PLEASE PROCEED WITH CAUTION WITH GRANTING THIS.

>> THANK YOU WE APPRECIATE THAT. >> ANY FURTHER COMMUNITY

DISCUSSION ABOUT THIS? >> SEEING THEN I HAVE A LIGHT ON COMMISSIONER ROSS?

>> CAN YOU GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE? >> THIS IS THE ONLY DRAWING THAT WAS WITH THE PRESENTATION. THIS IS ONE PROPERTY WHERE THERE IS A PARKING LOT HERE AND ANOTHER PARKING LOT HERE. THIS IS THE CITY RIGHT OF WAY AND THIS IS SADLER AND PEOPLE NOW WALK DOWN HERE AND PUT THIS IN HERE. YOU CAN SEE THIS IS AN AERIAL SHOT. THEY WILL BE DOING A BUNCH OF STUFF IN HERE.

HERE IS THE OTHER HOTEL WITH A PARKING LOT BACK HERE AND THIS IS THE AREA WHERE THE BOARDWALK WOULD GO THROUGH. THIS IS THE GREENWAY FATE HERE. THIS IS A PICTURE OF WHAT THE

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REAL PROBLEM IS. THIS ELEVATION IS 17 FEET AT THE BOTTOM OF THAT.

IT'S 1 FOOT. YOU CAN SEE HOW CLOSE TOGETHER THESE ARE.

IT'S BASICALLY A 17 BUT ALL VERTICAL DROP THAT THEY WANT TO PUT THIS BOARDWALK UP.

THE BOARDWALK WOULD GO RIGHT IN HERE. IF YOU GO TO THE NEXT THIS IS FROM THE BOTTOM LOOKING THROUGH. YOU CAN SEE THE CANOPY HERE THAT THIS WOULD HAVE TO GO THROUGH. I READ THEIR LEASE AND I HAVE A BUNCH OF QUESTIONS THAT I ASKED AND HE ANSWERED THEM. THE FIRST ONE IS THE PROPOSED BOARDWALK FROM 1 FOOT TO 17 FOOT. IT APPEARS TO BE A SECONDARY DUNE AND IT SHOWS WHAT THE INSTALLATION OF THE BOARDWALK WITH THE STABILITY.

IT'S THE SECONDARY EROSION AND THAT DEMON WILL WROTE AWAY. THERE IS NO PLAN IN HERE ON HOW YOU WILL DEAL WITH THE EROSION. THERE IS NO PLAN OR LEASE HERE FOR HOW WIDE THIS WOULD BE.

SO WE ARE JUST GRANTING BOARDWALK THAT DOESN'T SAY HOW WIDE IT WILL BE.

DOESN'T TALK ABOUT WHAT THEY WOULD DO WITH THE GOPHER TURTLES THAT ARE LOCATED THERE.

IT DOESN'T TALK ABOUT HOW IT WILL PRESERVE THE EXISTING TREES THAT ARE THERE THERE IS SOME TREES THAT ARE ALMOST HERITAGE SIZED . MY LEGAL CONCERNS ARE CONNECTING TO PARKING LOTS. ARE THEY GOING TO ALLOW UNLIMITED ACCESS TO THE PUBLIC PARKING LOTS? AND AGAIN HOW MUCH THE AREA IS AVAILABLE FOR THE LICENSED.

WHAT HAPPENS TO THE OWNERSHIP OF THESE TWO PROPERTIES SO IT'S ON EITHER SIDE.

IT DOESN'T ADDRESS HE WILL REMOVE THE BOARDWALK IF THE AGREEMENT IS TERMINATED.

IF THE AGREEMENT IS TERMINATED IT DOESN'T ADDRESS 88 ACCESSIBILITY.

IT DOESN'T ADDRESS HOW THE CITY WILL BE MADE AWARE OF HOW THEY WILL MAINTAIN THIS BOARDWALK.

THE AGREEMENT DOES NOT STATE THAT CONSTITUTES ABANDONING THE RIGHT-OF-WAY AND IT SHOULD BE IN THERE IF THEY SHOULD DO THIS. THERE'S A SEVERABILITY CLAUSE.

A PART OF THIS GETS DINGED IN COURT AND THE REST REMAINS. THAT SHOULD NOT BE IN THEIR BECAUSE IT COULD BE FAVORABLE TO A CITY AND THEY WOULD STILL HAVE THEIR BOARDWALK.

IT DOESN'T ADDRESS WHAT HAPPENS IF THIS BOARDWALK IS NOT BEING MAINTAINED.

SUPPORT THIS AGREEMENT UNTIL WE HAVE A WRITTEN ANSWER TO THOSE QUESTIONS.AND FOR FURTHER CONSIDERATION. I WOULD HOPE THAT WE WOULD JUST HAVE THIS POSTPONED TO ANOTHER

TIME. >> ALRIGHT COMMISSIONER. >> I WAS ABLE TO SPEAK WITH THE OWNER OF THE HOTELS AND SHE IS HERE WITH US TONIGHT. I CAN TELL YOU THAT A LOT OF WHAT THE PUBLIC DOESN'T GET A CHANCE TO SEE OR UNDERSTAND IS THAT THESE TWO PROPERTIES ARE GOING TO GET A MASSIVE REINVESTMENT. THAT'S MONEY THAT THEY ARE BRINGING TO THE COMMUNITY TO REINVEST THIS ENTIRE PROPERTY. FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND NOTHING ON THE PROPERTY IS GOING TO STAY THE SAME. OTHER THAN SIZE OF IT.

IT'S GOING TO BE COMPLETELY RENOVATED. WE ARE GOING TO SEE THIS BE A JEWEL FOR THE CITY OF FERNANDINA BEACH AT THESE TWO HOTELS.

THE REASON IN THE ASK IS SIMPLE. IT'S TRYING TO MAKE THIS RESORT AREA. IT WOULD BE MUCH LIKE YOU SEE THE OMNI SO START PICTURING THAT IN YOUR MIND. YOU'RE GETTING A REINVESTMENT ON A COMMERCIAL PROPERTY WORKING WITH THESE PARTNERS. THIS BRINGS AN EXTRA TAX REVENUE WHICH WE ARE USING FOR MANY PROJECTS SPECIFICALLY THERE AT THE PARK THAT WE AGREED TO MOVE FORWARD WITH.

WHEN I LOOK AT THIS I UNDERSTAND THAT COMMISSIONER ROSS HAS A LOT OF QUESTIONS THAT I THINK CAN BE ANSWERED AND WHEN THIS PROCESS GOES FORWARD AND WE START LOOKING AT THE CONSTRUCTION THAT'S GOING TO TAKE PLACE WITH THOSE TWO HOTELS WE LOOK AT THE ANSWERS

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TO HOW THIS WILL BE DONE. IT MAY NOT BE SPECIFICALLY RIGHT WHERE IT STATED BUT IT COULD BE A LITTLE BIT FURTHER NORTH OR SOUTH. WE WILL MAKE SURE THAT THERE IS LITTLE TO NO IMPACT JUST ANOTHER EXAMPLE OF HOW THIS OWNER GIVES 24 HOURS OF LEAVE TO EVERY EMPLOYEE EVERY YEAR TO VOLUNTEER INSIDE THEIR COMMUNITY.

THAT'S THE BUSINESS WE ARE HAVING AND THAT THEY ARE SUPPORTING.

I SUPPORT THIS. I UNDERSTAND THERE ARE QUESTIONS THAT NEED TO BE ANSWERED AND CERTAINLY I HAVE NO ISSUE WITH THAT. I THINK THIS IS GOING TO BE A

WIN-WIN FOR EVERYONE. >> I'M NOT SURE IF THIS IS A QUESTION FOR MR. GEORGE BUT HOW MANY OF THE CONCERNS THAT ARE BROUGHT UP WITH TO BE ABLE TO BE STIPULATED IF THE SHOULD BE

PASSED TONIGHT? >> I CAN TAKE CARE OF THAT. I SPOKE WITH COMMISSIONER ROSS EARLIER ABOUT SOME OF HIS CHANGES. THEY ARE REALLY NO PROBLEM IN TERMS OF THE SEVERABILITY CLAUSE AND STUFF LIKE THAT. AS FAR AS THE DIMENSIONS OF THE BOARDWALK I'M NOT SURE ANY OF US INCLUDING THE OWNERS CAN ANSWER THAT BECAUSE THAT TAKES ENGINEERING. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT CAN BE DONE IN THE AGREEMENT.

OWNER IS SO AND IN ORDER TO PROCEED BECAUSE NOT STAND THE COMMISSIONERS AND THE COMMUNITY

QUESTION. >> WE WANT TO BE ABLE TO PRESERVE THE CANOPY THAT WE HAVE. THAT'S JUST THE WAY WE OPERATE WE JUST DON'T COME IN AND DESTROY EVERYTHING THAT'S THERE. BECAUSE OF HOW BEAUTIFUL IT IS THAT'S WHY WE WANT TO DO BUSINESS HERE. WE ARE NOT DOING A PASS-THROUGH SO THAT OUR GUESTS AT THE OCEAN COAST CAN CUT THROUGH AND GO TO THE BEACH.

WE JUST WANT THIS WALKWAY SO THAT OUR GUESTS AT AMELIA HOTEL CAN COME OVER TO OCEAN COAST AND USE THAT POOL DECK.THIS IS THE IDEA FOR OUR GUESTS TO BE ABLE TO SHARE A PIECE OF REAL ESTATE THERE. OCEAN COAST IS GOING TO BE COMPLETELY RENOVATED.

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IT WILL BE A HOLIDAY AND RESORT SO EVERYTHING IN THAT PIECE OF PROPERTY WILL BE TOUCHED AND RENOVATED. THAT MAIN BUILDING WHERE THEY HAVE THAT OFFICE AND THE BAR WILL BECOMPLETELY RENOVATED . NOTHING WILL LOOK LIKE IT DOES NOW.

IT WILL BE A REALLY BEAUTIFUL OF PROPERTY THE POOL DECK WILL BE EXPANDED.

THERE WILL BE A LAZY RIVER WHERE THE CHILDREN CAN PLAY IN. BECAUSE AMELIA HOTEL WHICH WILL ALSO GET RENOVATED AND WE WILL DO THE LANDSCAPING IN FRONT OF THE HOTEL SO THAT THAT BEAUTIFUL CIRCLE WORKING WITH THE PLANS THAT YOU HAVE TO DO THOSE WALLCOVERINGS.

THAT PROPERTY DOESN'T ACCOMMODATE ANYTHING BIGGER THAN THAT SMALL POOL THAT THEY HAD SO WE WANT TO HAVE IT SO THAT THOSE GUESTS CAN COME OVER AND USE THOSE FACILITIES AS WELL.Y DOING THAT THE ADDED BENEFIT IS THAT WE COULD CHARGE A HIGHER RATE WHICH MEANS YOU GET MORE BAD TAX FROM US SO IT IS A WIN WIN AND REALLY MAKE A BEAUTIFUL SECTION OVER THERE THAT'S WHAT WE ARE OUT TO DO QUICK THANK YOU FOR BEING WITH US TONIGHT WE APPRECIATE IT.

LET'S GO TO COMMISSIONER ROSS. >> WHY CAN'T YOU JUST USE THE SIDEWALK AS IT IS?

>> BECAUSE THAT THEY DID THE SIDEWALK AS IT IS BUT THEY WOULD BE WALKING THROUGH AN ASPHALT PARKING LOT BUT THIS WAY THEY CAN COME THROUGH AND IF THEY SEE WHAT WAS ON THE PICTURE WE WANT THEM TO COME FROM THE HOTEL RIGHT TO THAT POOL AREA SO THAT THEY ARE NOT JUST GOING THROUGH TENANTS. IT QUICK SO THEY ARE GOING FROM A PARKING LOT TO THE PARKING

LOT QUICK SO THEY WOULD CUT RIGHT THROUGH TO THE POOL. >> HOW WILL YOU DEAL WITH THE

17 FOOT DROP? >> THAT'S WHY I SAID WILL HAVE TO WORK THAT OUT WHEN THEY GO FOR CITY PLANNING AND GET THE PERMITS. I DON'T DO THAT TECHNICAL PART OF IT. I DON'T KNOW ADA WISE BUT I DO KNOW THEY ARE AWARE THAT AND WILL BE WORKING WITH THE PLANNING COMMISSION WHEN THEY DO THAT QUICK SO WHY CAN'T YOU COME BACK WITH A PLAN AND A CONCEPT INSTEAD OF DOING IT THIS WAY?

>> COMMISSIONER ROSS I CAN ANSWER THAT. >> I'M ASKING HER I'M NOT

ASKING YOU. >> UNMASKING HER I'M SPEAKING. >> I THINK IT'S A PERFECTLY

LEGITIMATE QUESTION. >> I FEEL LIKE SHE'S BEING NICE BY ANSWERING THESE

QUESTIONS. >> I THINK THE CITY IS BEING REALLY NICE BY OFFERING HER A RIGHT OF WAY. THIS IS THE PUBLIC PROPERTY AND THIS IS GOING THROUGH THE PART OF OUR GREENWAY AND I THINK THE PUBLIC HAS A RIGHT TO KNOW THESE ANSWERS.

IF YOU DON'T ANSWER THE QUESTIONS THAT'S FINE BUT THIS IS A PRIVATE ENTERPRISE USING

PUBLIC PROPERTY. >> THAT'S FINE.IKE I SAID I CAN'T ANSWER THE TECHNICAL QUESTIONS THAT YOU HAVE BUT I CAN SAY THAT AT THIS POINT BEFORE WE HIRE PEOPLE TO GO IN AND DO THAT WE JUST WANT TO KNOW IS THE COMMUNITY EVEN OPENING TO US DO THAT.

IF YOU SAY YES THEN WE WILL WORK WITH WHATEVER STIPULATIONS YOU HAVE IN YOUR PLANNING BOAR . WE WORK WITH THAT TO MAKE THAT HAPPEN.

>> I'M GOING TO CALL THIS LINE OF QUESTIONING. I APPRECIATE YOUR TIME WITH US

TODAY THANK YOU SO MUCH YOU CAN HAVE A SEAT IF YOU'D LIKE. >> IF I COULD TRY TO HELP SOME OF THE UNKNOWN. IF THE CITY COMMISSION WITHOUT APPROVING THE ACTUAL LICENSE AGREEMENT, SIGNED SEALED AND DELIVERED. IF A MAJORITY OF THEM TONIGHT NOT VOTE OR APPROVE THIS MOTIO . I'M TRYING TO OFFER IF THEY VOTE TONIGHT AND VERBALLY SAY WE ARE GOING TO ALLOW YOU TO USE THIS BUT WE NEED MORE

DETAILS WILL THAT BE ENOUGH? >> FRANKLY I WILL GO OUT AND SAY I DON'T THINK WE NEED TO MAKE THAT ARE FAR. THE TRC WILL HAVE A HAND IN LOOKING AT THIS.

THAT'S THE NEXTSTEP AND THAT'S FRANKLY WHAT WE WILL BE DOING. I APPRECIATE YOUR HELP ON THIS

. >> WE DON'T WANT TO BUILD ANYTHING THAT WE HAVE TO FIGHT YOU ON. WE WANT TO COME TO YOU AND SAY WHAT YOU WANT US TO LOOK LIKE.

WE WANT TO BE WIDE ENOUGH FOR PEOPLE TO PASS THROUGH. WE ARE NOT OUT TO TAKE MORE

LAND THAN WE NEED. >> I APPRECIATE YOUR TIME THANK YOU FOR BEING WITH US

TONIGHT. >> LET'S GO TO VICE MAYOR. >> JUST BRIEFLY AS LONG AS WE APPROVE THE LICENSE AGREEMENT I HAVE TO BELIEVE WITH THE AMOUNT OF THE INVESTMENT AND NO AND SEES IT BECAUSE WE ARE NOT THERE YET, YOU CAN'T GO SPEND MONEY TO BUILD A WALL OR EXTENDED OR EVEN WORRY ABOUT THESE THINGS WITHOUT KNOWING THAT YOU HAVE APPROVAL.

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THAT'S THE ONE THING THAT I WOULD BE CONCERNED AS A BUSINESS OWNER AS WELL.

I WOULDN'T SPEND THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS. WE HAVE A SITUATION LIKE THAT ALREADY BUT IN A DIFFERENT AREA HOWEVER I WOULDN'T GO SPEND THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS UNLESS I KNOW I HAVE THE RIGHT TO DO IT. WHAT THE CITY'S APPROVAL OBVIOUSLY AND THE DESIRE.

AND THE TRC BOARD AND EVERYTHING THAT WOULD GO IN FRONT OF IT QUICK THANK YOU

VICE MAYOR. >> I'M GOING TO GO. >> THIS IS JUST LIKE ANY OTHER WAY THAT WE CROSS DEMONS IN OUR COMMUNITY. THEY ARE BUILDING A CROSSOVER.

THIS IS A SECONDARY DAY IN BETWEEN TWO DIFFERENT LOCATIONS.

THIS IS THE SAFEST WAY FOR PEOPLE TO CROSS. THIS IS THE SAFEST WAY FOR THE DUNE ITSELF AND THE ENVIRONMENT. THIS IS SOMETHING THAT MAKES OUR CITY MORE WALKABLE. I'M GOING TO POINT OUT THAT THESE QUESTIONS THAT COMMISSIONER ROSS IS BRINGING UP ARE SERVING TO COMPLICATE THE ISSUE I WOULD SAY NEEDLESSLY. IF YOU LOOK AT THEM THEY ARE COMMON SENSE ANSWERS.

AS WE GO THROUGH THE PROCESS THIS IS NOT A FINAL APPROVAL. WHAT THIS IS IS APPROVING THE CONCEPT TONIGHT SHE WILL EITHER HAVE TO RETURN TO OUR REVIEW COMMITTEE.

WHAT WE KNOW FOR SURE IS THAT IT WILL BE BECAUSE THAT'S FEDERAL REGULATION.QUESTIONS ABOUT THE GOPHER TORTOISES FEDERAL REGULATORY.THESE QUESTIONS ARE EASILY ANSWERABLE AND THAT'S THE ISSUE. WE WILL NOT SLOW DOWN THIS PROCESS BECAUSE IT IS A GOOD PLAN THAT INCREASES WORKABILITY FOR OUR CITY AND IT INCREASES DIFFERENT WAYS THAT OUR CITIZENS AND OUR GUESTS TO OUR COMMUNITY CAN ENJOY OUR ENVIRONMENT AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE DOING. THAT'S HOW WE WILL HANDLE THIS TONIGHT.

I VOTE YES IT DOES NOT APPROVE A RECTANGLE WHAT IT APPROVES IS THE ABILITY THAT WE LIKE THIS CONCEPT AND THE APPLICANT WILL GO FORTH TO THE TRC AND WILL MAKE SURE THESE DETAILS ABOUT HOW IT'S GOING TO BE BUILT GETS ANSWERED IN A WAY THAT IS SAFE BOTH FOR THE PEOPLE THAT ARE GOING TO BE USING IT AND FOR THE ENVIRONMENT ITSELF. LET'S GO TO COMMISSIONER ROSS.

>> YOU ARE SAYING THIS GOING TO BE ADA COMPLIANT. >> HOW WILL THEY DEAL WITH A 17 FOOT DROP? THIS IS NOT A TYPICAL DUNE. THIS IS A 17 FOOT BASIC DROP.

>> IN THIS PARTICULAR MOMENT AND THE CITY ENGINEER. IT DOES NOT HAVE TO BE ADA IF THERE IS ANOTHER ADA ACCESSIBLE ROUTE WHICH WOULD BE SETTLED. IT DOES NOT HAVE TO BE ADA

ABSOLUTELY. >> THANK YOU MR. GEORGE. >> COMMISSIONER ROSS?

>> I THINK IT IS A POORLY WRITTEN LICENSE AGREEMENT AND DOES NOT ANSWER A LOT OF ISSUES. I AM OPPOSED TO IT. THINK YOU'RE GIVING AWAY PUBLIC LAND WITHOUT DOING THAT. WAS IT THE OPEN MEETING WHERE THEY WERE ARGUING OVER A CONTRACT THAT THEY WERE DOING? IT'S BECAUSE WHEN THESE CONTRACTS ARE NOT CAREFULLY WRITTEN WITH THE THINGS THAT SPECIFIED AS THEY FOUND OUT IT BECOMES PROBLEMATIC.

DID SHE TAKE CARE OF THE PROBLEMS UPFRONT NOT AFTER THEY HAPPEN.

THIS DOESN'T EVEN SAY HOW WIDE. IT IS A VERY LOOSE THING. I WOULD COME BACK WITH A TIGHT AGREEMENT AND I'M WILLING TO LISTEN TO THAT. THIS IS NOT A GOOD AGREEMENT

FOR THE PEOPLE AND I WILL VOTE AGAINST IT. >> ONE FINAL QUESTION.

THAT IS AS YOU COME TO THE PODIUM THIS IS WRITTEN IN SUCH A WAY THAT FOR ANY REASON THE

CITY CAN TERMINATE IT WITH FOUR MONTHS NOTICE IS THAT CORRECT? >> THE CITY SHOULD BE IN YOUR PACKET. I DON'T HAVE THE AGREEMENT IN FRONT OF ME.

IT CAN BE REVOKED. >> BUT WHAT IT DOESN'T DO IS SAY WHO'S GONNA TAKE CARE OF

THE PROBLEM. >> IT DOES NOT DISCUSS THE DETAILS OF MAINTENANCE.

WHO MAINTAINS THAT. IT IS IMPLIED THAT THEY MAINTAIN IT BUT I DIDN'T HAVE

ANY OF THOSE. >> THOSE DETERMINATIONS WILL BE DETERMINED BY THE TRC IS THAT CORRECT? REX THE PROPERTY OWNER AND THE LICENSEE.

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THE TWO LLCS THAT THE LICENSE AGREEMENT IS TO. THEY BUILT THOSE IT IS THEIR PROPERTY SO IF IT IS NOT MAINTAINED THEN THIS WILL BE A FOUR MONTH NOTICE FOR THE CITY

TO REVOKE IT. >> THEY GET DOWN IN THE BUILDING PERMIT OR TRC AND WE REQUIRE A MAINTENANCE PROGRAM. WITH SOMETHING LIKE THIS IT GOES THROUGH A SENSITIVE AREA AND AS PART OF THEIR PERMIT APPROVAL WE WILL SEE THAT MAINTENANCE PROGRAM AND HOW THEY INTEND TO DO IT. CRACKS THAT WILL BE REVIEWED IS TO CLARIFY IT WILL BE REVIEWED

AT THE TRC. >> EXCELLENT THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

THOSE ARE MY QUESTIONS. ANY FURTHER COMMISSIONER DISCUSSION? SEEING NONE PLEASE CALL THE ROLE.

>> THAT PASSES FOR AND WHEN. >> WE HAVE ITEMS EXPLAIN THRE .

[6.3 EMPLOYMENT AGREEMENT - CITY MANAGER - RESOLUTION 2023-179 APPROVING AN EMPLOYMENT AGREEMENT WITH JAMES TYSON ("TY") ROSS FOR FULL-TIME EMPLOYMENT AS CITY MANAGER; AUTHORIZING EXECUTION OF DOCUMENTS; AND PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE. ]

EMPLOYMENT AGREEMENT FOR THE CITY MANAGER. >> I BELIEVE THAT'S ASKED.

>> THIS IS TO FORMALIZE THE AGREEMENT THAT HAS BEEN PREPARED AND SIGNED BY THE INCOMING CITY MANAGER SO IT'S RESOLUTION TO APPROVE AN EMPLOYMENT AGREEMENT OF MR.

JAMES TYSON ROSS FOR FULL-TIME EMPLOYMENT AS A CITY MANAGER. >> MOVED TO APPROVE.

>> SECOND. >> I HEAR A MOTION IN A SECOND ANY DISCUSSION?

>> I JUST HAVE ONE QUESTION. IN THE CITY BUDGET THERE IS $20$200,000 FOR THE CURRENT CITY MANAGER FOR THE INTERIM POSITION. THE $7500 FUND FOR MOVING IS

NOT INCLUDED IN THE BUDGET IS THAT CORRECT? >> IT WASN'T INCLUDED IN THE BUDGET THAT YOU APPROVED BY OUR COMPTROLLER HAS INDICATED THAT THERE ARE WAYS TO COVER THAT.

QUICK SO WE TAKE IT FROM SOMETHING ELSE? >> IT WILL BE A BUDGET

AMENDMENT OR TRANSFER OF SOME MONEY. >> THANK YOU.

>> A MOTION AND A SECOND ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION?>> I WILL JUST SAY I'M VERY EXCITED TO HAVE ROSS JOINING US. THE START DATE IS ON THE 16TH. WITH THAT I CAN DO IT IN MY COMMISSIONER COMMENTS THAT I WILL DO IT NOW THIS WILL BE THE LAST MEETING WITH MR. GEORGE AS OUR INTERIM CITY MANAGER. WE ARE HONORED TO HAVE YOU SERVE THE CITY WITH DISTINCTION AND THANK YOU FORWHAT YOU'VE DONE . [APPLAUSE]

>> PLEASE CALL THE ROLE.

[6.4 SECOND AMENDMENT - AMELIA HISTORIC TOURS, LLC FRANCHISE AGREEMENT - RESOLUTION 2023-180 APPROVING THE SECOND AMENDMENT TO THE NON-EXCLUSIVE FRANCHISE AGREEMENT WITH AMELIA HISTORIC TOURS, LLC TO ALLOW CONSUMPTION OF ALCOHOL BY TOUR GUESTS WHILE PASSENGERS IN TOUR VEHICLES; AUTHORIZING EXECUTION; AND PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE. ]

>> WE GO NOT ITEMS EXPLAIN FOR THE SECOND AMENDMENT FOR THE AMELIA HISTORIC TOURS LLC

FRANCHISE AGREEMENT. >> THIS IS THE BEST WAY TO DESCRIBE IT.HIS IS THE AMELIA HISTORIC TOURS. MR. DALEY IS IN CHARGE OF THIS BUSINESS.

THE FIRST AMENDMENT IS A FRANCHISE AGREEMENT. IT'S TO ALLOW SERVING ALCOHOL TO TOUR PASSENGERS ON THE VAN BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT FLORIDA TRAFFIC LAWS ALLOW.

THIS AMENDMENT IS MR. DALEY WOULD LIKE TO ADD TROLLEYS TO HIS FLEET OF VEHICLES.

HE IS ALLOWED UP TO EIGHT VANS AND HE WOULD LIKE TO CHANGE THAT FLEET.

HE'S OPERATING ONE VAN RIGHT NOW NOT FIVE OR EIGHT. IT ALLOWS FOR THAT AND IN THE TROLLEYS I BELIEVE HE'S INTERESTED WITH GETTING ONE SOON SPEAKING OF ADA HE CAN INVITE DISABLED PASSENGERS. THOSE IN WHEELCHAIRS ARE NEEDING MOBILITY AND HELP.

THIS IS THE SECOND AMENDMENT. I DID VERIFY THAT THE FIRST WAS FOR ALCOHOL.

STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL AND I THINK THIS AGREEMENT IS WRITTEN OKAY.

DID YOU HAVE ANY DISAGREEMENTS WITH THAT? >> DO I HEAR A MOTION.

>> MOVED TO APPROVE. >> SECOND. >> I HEAR A MOTION AND A

SECOND ANY DISCUSSION? >> I GUESS IS A GENERAL QUESTION THIS IS UP TO THREE AND WE ALREADY HAVE ONE TROLLE . HOW MANY CAN THE CITY ABSORB?

>> I'M NOT OPPOSED TO THIS BUT I THINK ONE TROLLEY WOULD BE ADEQUATE.

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IF YOU GET IT UP AND GOING IT'S WILDLY SUCCESSFUL. I THINK IT'S OVERSATURATED DOWNTOWN. I LIVE DOWNTOWN. HAVING TROLLEY AFTER TROLLEY HOW MANY MORE CAN IT TAKE? THE OTHER QUESTION WAS NOT ANSWERED IN THIS IS THE INTERESTING PART. IT'S WHAT I'M CURIOUS ABOUT. ASXI THINK THE TROLLEY WILL DEMAND WHAT IT DEMANDS. I DON'T SEE FOR TROLLEYS ANYWAY.

THE MARKET WILL DEMAND WHAT IT DEMANDS. IT'S A BUSINESS AND IF HE FEELS THAT ONE TROLLEY UP HE HAS THE ABILITY TO GET A ANOTHER HE CURRENTLY HAS ONE FENCE I THINK THE MARKET IS HERE AND I DON'T SEE IT EVER GETTING LIKE SAINT AUGUSTINE.

I DON'T THINK IT'S A PROBLEM. I THINK WE ALLOW HIM TO HAVE IT AND I DON'T THINK IT'S AN

ISSUE. THAT'S JUST MY THOUGHTS ON IT. >> IT'S NOT A HUGE MARKET DEMAND. THE QUESTION IS HOW MANY TROLLEYS DO YOU WANT HANGING

AROUND DOWNTOWN. WE CAN MARKET WITH 20 TROLLEYS. >> IT'S THE SAME CONVERSATION WITH SHIPS. CRUISE SHIPS. HOW MANY CRUISE SHIPS YOU WANT.

IT'S CHARACTER OF DOWNTOWN T. IT'S A SLIPPERY SLOPE. I WOULD VOTE FOR ONETROLLEY I

WOULD NOT SUPPORT IT . >> ALRIGHT I WILL SUPPORT THIS.

I'M NOT GONNA PUT AN UNOFFICIAL LINE ON THE TROLLEY MARKET SO LET'S GO AHEAD AND GET THIS GOING ASK A MOTION IN A SECOND WITH NO FURTHER DISCUSSION. TO CITY CLERK PLEASE CALL THE

ROLE. >>.

[6.5 AWARD OF INVITATION TO BID (ITB) 23-08 - SEASIDE PARK WALKWAY IMPROVEMENTS - RESOLUTION 2023-181 AWARDING INVITATION TO BID 23-08 FOR SEASIDE WALKWAY IMPROVEMENTS TO DOCKWORKS OF NORTH EAST FLORIDA LLC., DBA C&H MARINE CONSTRUCTION IN THE AMOUNT OF $151,883; AUTHORIZING A CONTINGENCY FUND OF $10,000 FOR A TOTAL PROJECT BUDGET AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED $161,883; AUTHORIZING EXECUTION; AND PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE. ]

>> THAT PASSES FOR AND WHEN. HEADING DOWN THE LIST WE HAVE ITEMS 6.5.

A WORD THAT INVITATION TO BID ITB 23 ? 08. SHE SAID PARKWAY WALKWAY

IMPROVEMENTS. >> THIS IS THE SEASIDE PARK WALKWAY THAT GOES OUT TO THE BEACH WHICH IS THE MIDDLE SECTION THAT'S IN THE WORST CONDITION SO WE WENT OUT FOR BED AND GOT SEVERAL BIDS IN. DOC WORKS IN NORTHEAST FLORIDA WITH A LOW BID OF 151,161,833.

THE LIMIT WAS 300,000 SO WE ARE WELL BELOW. >> DO I HEAR A MOTION.

>> MOTION TO APPROVE. >> SECOND. >> I WILL START WITH

COMMISSIONER ROSS. >> I JUST HAVE ONE QUESTION. I SUPPORT THIS.

THE COUNTY IS ALLEGEDLY GOING TO REIMBURSE US THAT'S. >> THAT'S WHAT WE HAVE HEARD FROM A M. ONCE THIS GETS APPROVED WE WILL START REACHING OUT TO THEM.

>> YOU CAN REPORT ON THAT IN THE NEXT MEETING? >> WHILE THE OTHER GUY WELL.

>> HE WILL STILL BE HERE WITH US. NEXT I ALSO SAY IS A MEMBER OF THE TDC THIS WAS DISCUSSED. WE TALKED ABOUT THIS AND YES THE COUNTY HAS STATED THAT THEY ARE WILLING TO WORK WITH THE CITY ON THIS SO WE ARE LOOKING FORWARD TO THAT.

>> THAT IS THE BED TAX QUICKSET IS THE EXACT BED TAX THAT COMES FROM FACILITIES LIKE THESE HOTELS AND MOTELS THAT WE HAVE A LIMITED AMOUNT. THAT BED TAX WILL HELP SUPPORT THE MAINTENANCE THROUGH REPAIR . I THINK IT'S A GREAT THING.

>> EXCELLENT POINT VOICE MAYO . >> SEEING NO FURTHER DISCUSSION CITY CLERK PLEASE CALL THE ROLE.

[6.6 INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT - BEACH PARK RESTROOMS - RESOLUTION 2023-182 APPROVING AN INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT WITH THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS OF NASSAU COUNTY FOR REIMBURSEMENT FOR BEACH AND BEACH PARK RESTROOM CLEANING; AUTHORIZING EXECUTION; AND PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE. ]

FIVE AND ZERO. >> ITEM 6.16 OR LTHE INTERLOCA AGREEMENT WITH BEACH PARK

RESTROOMS. >> THIS IS THE AGREEMENT HE IS BED TAX DOLLARS TO CLEAN THE BEACHES WHICH IS TO TAKE THE CHAIRS AND GAZEBOS THAT HAVE BEEN LEFT.

CLEAN THE RESTROOMS AND OTHERWISE CLEAN OUR BEACHES. THIS IS A GOOD PARTNERSHIP WITH THE COUNTY. THANK YOU. DO I HEAR A MOTION.> MOVED

TO APPROVE. >> SECOND. >> ANY DISCUSSION?

>> I JUST WANT TO BRIEFLY SAY THAT THIS IS AN AMAZING THING THAT THE COUNTY IS WORKING WITH

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THE CITY. WE ARE COOPERATING AND THIS IS AWESOME TO SEE EVERY STEP OF THE WAY. I JUST THINK THAT THIS IS A MONUMENTAL TIME TO BUILD WITH

OUR RELATIONSHIP. >> I WOULD AGREE VICE MAYOR. >> I WOULD JUST LIKE TO POINT

OUT WE'VE BEEN DOING THIS FOR FIVE YEARS. >> THAT'S WHY I SAID IT

MEMORIALIZES. >> THIS IS NOTHING NEW IT WAS NEGOTIATED WHEN WE CHANGED

THIS. >> I APPRECIATE THE TDC PAYING FOR IT.

>> ONE OTHER THING BEACH RECORD IS A FANTASTIC JOB. >> THANK YOU TO MR. LEIN WHO HAS BEEN WITH US PROBABLY FOR THESE TWO GREAT AGENDA ITEMS I JUST TOOK OUT.

>> CITY CLERK PLEASE CALL THE ROLE.

>> THAT PASSES FIVE AND ZERO. HEADING DOWN WE HAVE ITEM 6.7. CONFERENCE OF EMERGENCY

[6.7 COMPREHENSIVE EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT PLAN - RESOLUTION 2023-183 ADOPTING THE 2023-2027 NASSAU COUNTY COMPREHENSIVE EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT PLAN AS THE STANDARD FOR EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT IN NASSAU COUNTY; AUTHORIZING EXECUTION; AND PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE. ]

MANAGEMENT PLAN. WE HAVE CHIEF. >> GOOD EVENING COMMISSION.

THE RESOLUTION BEFORE YOU IS TO ADOPT THE 23, 2023 2027 NASSAU COUNTY COMPREHENSIVE EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT PLAN. IT IS THE STANDARD FOR PROVIDING EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT

SERVICES IN NASSAU COUNTY. >> SAWYER MOTION? >> MOTION.

>> SECOND. >> CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG CHIEF.

THIS IS TO APPROVE THE EMERGENCY PLAN. THE PLAN IS EXTREMELY IMPORTANT FOR RESIDENTS AND VISITORS AND HELPS THEM TO KNOW WHAT TO DO IN AN EMERGENCY WITH A HURRICANE OR EXPLOSION OR SOMETHING GOING ON. I READ THE PLAN.

ALL 156 PAGES OF IT. THE PLAN APPEARS TO BE A GOOD PLAN.

HOWEVER I UNDERSTAND THAT PUBLIC RECORDS LAW ALLOWS IF IT DOES NOT REQUIRE THE LOCAL GOVERNMENT TO MAKE A PLAN EXEMPT AND CONFIDENTIAL. I WILL POINT OUT THAT THIS PLAN DOES NOT INCLUDED IN THE PACKET AND YET THE ONLY REASON WE GOT A COPY OF IT WAS BECAUSE I SPECIFICALLY ASKEDFOR IT . IT WAS NOT DISTRIBUTED TO THE PUBLIC.

IN FACT IT'S MORE CONFIDENTIAL AND EXEMPT. I MAY BE MAKING A MOUNTAIN OUT OF A MOLE HILL BUT THE TRANSPARENCY IN GOVERNMENT IF IT'S NOT KNOWN IN YOUR NONACCOUNTABLE OR TRANSPARENT PEOPLECAN'T SEE . IT WOULD APPEAR THAT THIS MATERIAL IN THE REPORT IS CURRENTLY IN THEPUBLIC DOMINION .

WE WANT THE PUBLIC TO KNOW THINGS LIKE EXIT ROUTES. WHERE SHELTERS ARE.

THAT'S MOSTLY WHAT IT TALKS ABOUT. THERE ARE SOME OPERATIONAL DETAILS IN THEIR THAT SHOULD BE REDACTED FROM THE PUBLIC. I AGREE WITH THAT IT'S A VERY SMALL PART OF THAT PLAN. I CALLED UP THE COUNTY MANAGER AND EMS DIRECTOR ASKING THEM WHAT PARTS NEED TO BE AND MY ANSWER WAS THAT THAT'S UP TO THE ATTORNEYS WHICH I DIDN'T THINK WAS A PARTICULARLY GOOD ANSWER. I WHY IT WAS CONFIDENTIAL AND THEY SAY THAT'S WHAT THE ATTORNEY SAID. NOT OUR ATTORNEY, THEIR ATTORNEYS. IT'S A CONFIDENTIAL REPORT THAT GIVES THE APPEARANCE THAT THE GOVERNMENT IS HIDING SOMETHING WHICH I DON'T THINK IT IS. I THINK IT'S SOMETHING THAT SHOULD BE WELL HYPOTHESIZED. I'M ONLY WILLING TO SUPPORT THIS IF THE REPORT GETS REDACTED IN ANY SENSE OF OPERATIONS WHICH IS IMPORTANT BUT I THINK NOT A LOT OF THAT REPORT. THE COUNTY CAN PRESENT THAT REPORT FOR THE PUBLIC AND I WOULD SUPPORT THAT. I WILL NOT SUPPORT IT WOULD BE IN A CONFIDENTIAL DOCUMENT THAT

THE GOVERNMENT HAS PRODUCED BUT IS UNWILLING TO SHARE. >> THANK YOU COMMISSIONER RAS

. >> THAT ALSO READ THROUGH THI .

I WILL BE ON AS I DIDN'T SEE ANYTHING IN IT THAT SEEMED LIKE IT WAS CONFIDENTIAL INFORMATION. OUR ATTORNEYS IN THE COUNTY'S ATTORNEY AND I'M SURE THIS CAME FROM EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT FROM THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE AS WELL. THEY DETERMINED THAT IT'S CONFIDENTIAL AND NEEDS TO STAY THAT WAY. I'M GOING TO SUPPORT THE COUNTY AND THE SHERIFF ON THAT. I AGREE WITH YOU. I DIDN'T SEE ANYTHING THAT WAS JUST OVERWHELMINGLY SECRETIVE INFORMATION THAT NEEDED TO BE THAT WAY BUT THAT'S SIMPLY WHAT

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THEY ARE REQUESTING. >> IT SHOULD BE CONFIDENTIAL FOR SAFETY REASONS.

THAT WOULD BE MY BIGGEST CONCERN. I KNOW IT'S MUNDANE BUT I READ IT AS WELL. IF IT'S CONFIDENTIAL AND THEY SAY IT'S CONFIDENTIAL IT IS

THEIR PLAN AND I THINK WE NEED TO HONOR THAT. >> THINK YOU VICE MAYOR.

>> IT'S NOT THERE PLANETS THE COUNTY'S PLAN. WE ARE PART OF THE COUNTY AND THE PEOPLE HAVE A RIGHT TO KNOW WHAT'S IN THAT PLAN. JUST BECAUSE TWO ATTORNEYS.

>> THEY CAME BACK AND SAID IT'S CONFIDENTIAL FOR THIS REASON.

JUST TO SAY STAMPER CONFIDENTIAL AS THE GOVERNMENT JUST WHERE FOR SMALLER

GOVERNMENT AND TRANSPARENCY THIS IS THAT. I SUPPORT THE PLAN.>> COULD YOU GO THROUGH SOME POSSIBLE REASONS? WHAT ARE SOME POSSIBLE REASONS WHY A PLAN LIKE THIS WOULD BE NEEDED. QUICKSTART ITEMS IN THE PLAN SEPTEMBER 11 POSTINGS HAVE BECOME CONFIDENTIAL. ACTIVE.

THERE IS A LOT IN THE PLAN. IT'S TO THE PUBLIC RELATION RIGHTS.

YOUR SHELTERS. THOSE TYPE OF THINGS ARE DISTRIBUTED TO THE PUBLIC WHEN THE COUNTY GIVES A REQUEST FOR PEOPLE TO EVACUATE.THAT STUFF IS VERY OPEN.

THEY PUBLISH IT. THEY PUT IT OUT. EVACUATION ROUTES.

I THINK IF YOU GO AND LOOK THERE ARE SIGNS ON THE ROADS THAT SAY THIS IS AN EVACUATION ROUTE. THOSE KIND OF THINGS ARE NOT THE PIECES THAT THEY ARE TRYING TO PROTECT. THE PIECES ARE TRYING TO PROTECT WHICH ARE OBSERVATIONAL PIECES. THE NUMBER OF LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS THAT WILL BE DOING CERTAIN THINGS. THE NUMBER OF FIREFIGHTERS. HOW DOES OPERATIONAL ASPECTS WILL OCCUR IN THE EVENT. THIS IS NOT JUST FOR HURRICANES.

IT'S FOR MAN-MADE DISASTERS AND TERRORISTS ATTACKS. IT'S EVERYTHING THAT WE WILL DEAL WITH IN AN EMERGENCY SITUATION. THEREFORE ABSOLUTELY THERE IS A LOT IN IT THAT IS NOT CONFIDENTIAL. WE DIDN'T WRITE A PLAN.

I DO NOT HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO GO AND REDACT OR PUT OUT WHAT THAT WOULD BE.

THAT WOULD BE ASKED TO EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT FOR THE COUNTY AND THEIR ATTORNEY THAT

HANDLES THAT. >> THANK YOU CHIEF. >> I WILL SUPPORT THIS.

THERE'S ONLY ONE OF US THAT IS HER FIRST RESPONDER. IT'S NOT ME BUT I WILL SAY I TRUST OUR FIRST RESPONDERS AND THAT IS WHO IT IS CREATED THIS PLAN.

WE PARTICIPATE IN A PLAN HERE AND MAKE SURE OUR ACCOUNTING AND OUR CITY STAY AS SAFEAS CAN BE . NO FURTHER DISCUSSION WE WILL CALL THE ROLE.

[7.1 COMMISSIONER COMPENSATION - ORDINANCE 2023-40, AMENDING ORDINANCE 2011- 21 BY PROVIDING FOR AN INCREASE IN THE ANNUAL SALARY TO THE CITY COMMISSIONERS FROM $12,000 TO $18,000; PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY; AND PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE. ]

ITEM 7.1 IS COMMISSIONER COMPENSATION. >> ORDINANCE 2023 ? 40 AMENDING ORDINANCE 2011 ? 21 BY PROVIDING FOR AN INCREASE IN THE ANNUAL SALARY TO THE CITY COMMISSIONERS FROM $12,000-$18,000. PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY AND

PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE. >> THANK YOU.

DO I HEAR ANY COMMISSIONER DISCUSSION? >> DO I HEAR A MOTION?> I

MOVED TO APPROVE. >> SECOND. >> THIS COMMISSION GAVE THE CITY WORKERS A 5% INCREASE IN THE ADOPTED BUDGET AND THEY GRANT THEMSELVES A 50%

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INCREASE. THE COMMISSIONERS RAN THE FISCAL CONSERVATIVES NEEDING TO CUT COSTS NOT TO RAISE THEIR SALARY 50%. THIS COMMISSION SPENT $27,500 TO MOVE MORE THAN THE COMMISSION. THIS COMMISSION STATED IN THE CAMPAIGN THAT THEY WERE RUNNING TO SERVE THE PUBLIC THEY GIVE BACK TO THE COMMUNITY.

NO CANDIDATES DID AND THEY NEEDED MORE COMPENSATION TO SERVE THE PUBLIC.

AS FOR THE HEALTH INSURANCE ISSUES THAT ARE BROUGHT UP ABOUT THIS IN THE PAST.

THE CITY DOES NOT PROVIDE HEALTH INSURANCE TO ITS PART-TIME WORKERS.

THE COMMISSION IS A PART-TIME JOB. NO COMMISSIONER RAN ON THE PLATFORM. I WANT TO BE ELECTED SO THAT MY HEALTH INSURANCE WILL BE PAID FOR. I WILL NOT VOTE FOR THIS PAY RAISE.

I WOULD PROPOSE THAT THE $30,000 INSTEAD BE USED TO PAY FOR THE CITY MANAGER COMPENSATION PACKAGE WHICH THE CITY COMMISSION DID NOT PUT IN THE BUDGET.

>> VICE MAOR? >> I TOTALLY DISAGREE WITH CHECK AND I DON'T NEED THE COMPENSATION. THIS IS ABOUT THE POSITION. THE HEALTH INSURANCE BY PREVIOUS COMMISSIONS TOOK IT AWAY WHICH WAS A $12,000 VALUE. THIS COMMISSION HAD THAT INSURANCE FOR OVER 12 TO 15 YEARS FOR THE PEOPLE ON THE COMMISSION THAT WANTED IT.

SOME PEOPLE TOOK IT AND SOME PEOPLE DID IT BUT IT WAS A BENEFIT THAT WAS PART OF THIS TITLE SO TO STRIP A POSITION THAT SPENDS 20 TO 30 HOURS PER WEEK WHETHERYOU WOULD LIKE TO DONATE YOUR SALARY OR ANYBODY ON THIS COMMISSION WOULD LIKE TO DONATE HOWEVER MUCH MONEY THEY WOULD LIKE TO WHATEVER CHARITABLE ORGANIZATION THEY WOULD LIKE FOR THEIR SALARY OR NOT IS UP TO THEM. HOWEVER THE POSITION EXISTS AND IF YOU STRIP ANYMORE OUT OF THE POSITION THAN YOU ULTIMATELY ARE LOOKING FOR NOTHING BUT RETIRED AND WEALTHY AND VISUALS TO HOLD THESE POSITIONS SO FOR THAT ALONE I SUPPORT THIS AND I BELIEVE THAT IT'S A TRAVESTY TO GO ON PERCENTAGES BECAUSE THE LAST TIME THIS POSITION GOT A RAISE OR AN ADJUSTMENT WHICH THIS BY THE WAY IS NOT A RAISE IT GOT TAKEN AWAY AND YOUR PUTTING BACK 6000 SO THAT'S HALF OF WHAT WAS REMOVED FROM THIS POSITION. IT'S NOT A RAISE IT'S A REDUCTION FROM LAST YEAR SO IT IS A $6000 REDUCTION WHICH I DON'T NEED THE MONEY AND I DON'T KNOW THAT ANYBODY. DOES NEED THE MONEY HOWEVER THAT IS THE CASE AND I WILL LEAVE FOR THE PHYSICIAN SHOULD STAY THIS WAY JUST OUT OF RESPECT FOR ANYBODY THAT WOULD HOLD THIS POSITION IF IT WAS A MOTHER OR ANYBODY IN OUR CITY THAT WOULD WANT TO HOLD THIS POSITION ARE RUN FOR THIS. I BELIEVE IT BE A TRAVESTY TO STRIP IT ANYMORE THAN IT IS THAT'S JUST MY OPINION. THANK YOU I AM SUPPORTING IT X I WILL JUST SPEAK FOR ME PERSONALLY. I HAVE NOT RAN ACROSS A CITIZEN YET THAT HAS YET TO SAY THAT THIS DOES NOT NEED TO HAPPEN. ALMOST EVERYONE THAT I RUN ACROSS SAYS YES.

I THINK THE YEAR THAT I HEARD WAS 1991. >> IT WAS 1995 THAT THERE WAS

ANY KIND OF COMPENSATION INCREASE FOR COMMISSIONERS. >> I WILL SAY THIS ON A PERSONAL NOTE.HEN I LOOK AT THE CITIES CHALLENGES THAT ARE IN FRONT OF US THIS WOULDN'T BE IN THE TOP 100. SAW WAY FORWARD TO FIX IT AND BROUGHT FORTH THAT PLAN.

I ASKED THE QUESTION LAST TIME WHEN WE WENT THROUGH IT. WHAT WE BASE IT OFF OF AND HOW DID THAT HAPPEN HE WAS ABLE TO ANSWER THOSE QUESTIONS THAT SATISFIED THE ASPECT OF BEING COMPARABLE TO OTHER COMMISSIONS. WHILE AGAIN IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT I AM A PROBLEM OR PROBLEM I WOULD PUT ON THE FRONT BURNER IT IS A PROBLEM THAT NEEDED TO

BE LOOKED INTO AND CORRECTED. I'M GONNA VOTE FOR THIS JUST TO SIMPLY CORRECT THIS ISSUE.>> I WILL GO AHEAD AND ALSO THIS. WE HAVE HAD SOME TOUGH VOTES APPEARANCE AND EASY ONES.

FRANKLY THIS HAS TO BE ONE OF THE TOUGHEST IF NOT THE TOUGHEST VOTE I'VE HAD TO MAKE AS YOUR MAYOR AND IS A COMMISSIONER APPEAR. THIS IS ONE THAT I KNOW I WILL

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GET A LOT OF HEAT FOR. I WILL TELL YOU RIGHT NOW THAT WHO I'M THINKING OF IS WHO IS RUNNING. WHO WILL RUN IN THE FUTURE TO REPLACE AS.

I'M THINKING ABOUT WHO WILL EVENTUALLY COME HERE. THERE IS SOMETHING THAT I WANT TO POINT OUT. THERE ARE A LOT OF HURDLES TO SERVE.

THERE'S A LOT OF HURDLES TO BEING A PUBLIC SERVANT AND THEY GET BIGGER EVERY YEAR.

ONE SUCH HURDLE THEY GETS CRAZIER EVERY YEAR AS WE HAVE FACEBOOK NOW.

THERE IS PEOPLE ON FACEBOOK THAT ARE JUST REALLY MEAN AND IF YOU ASKED ME BEFORE I RAN FOR OFFICE HOW MEAN WOULD BE WILL BE ON FACEBOOK I WOULD HAVE NOT TOLD YOU IT WOULD BE AS MEAN AS THEY ARE BECAUSE FOLKS PEOPLE THAT CAN RUN FOR OFFICE ARE SEEING THIS.

IS THAT SOMETHING YOU WANT TO DO. THERE IS THIS FAKE NEWS NOW.

THERE IS FAKE NEWS.THERE'S PEOPLE WATCHING THIS MEETING RIGHT NOW THINKING ABOUT RUNNING INTO THE FUTURE AND ARE SEEING THAT THEY WOULD HAVE TO DEAL WITH THIS.

BUT TELL YOU THAT THERE IS A NEW HURDLE APPROACHING. TARTING NEXT YEAR THE STATE OF FLORIDA MANDATES THAT PUBLIC OFFICIALS ARE GOING TO HAVE TO COMPLETELY PUBLICLY DISCLOSE SOURCES OF INCOME. YOU GUYS WILL SIT NEXT YEAR BUT YOU KNOW I'M AN ENGINEER AT THE MILL. THAT IS NOT SOMETHING THAT IF YOU ARE NOT ELECTED YOU DON'T HAVE TO SHARE HOW MUCH YOU MAKE FROM YOUR DAY JOB BUT THAT SOMETHING THAT A PUBLIC OFFICIAL WOULD HAVE TO DO. THIS IS THE ONLY HURDLE I HAVE CONTROL OVER BECAUSE I WISH THAT OUR COMMUNITY COULD BE NICER TO EACH OTHER ON THE INTERNET.

I WISH THAT THE FAKE NEWS BUT STOP FAKE MUSING. I SURE WISH THAT THE STATE OF FLORIDA IS A GREAT PLACE TO LIVE BUT I WISH MAYBE WE DIDN'T HAVE THESE STRICT REQUIREMENTS OF OUR LOCAL OFFICIALS THERE. THERE IS ONE HURDLE THAT WE HAVE A LEVER TO PULL AND THAT IS THE FINAL HURDLE OF THE TIME YOU INVEST IN THIS POSITION. IT TAKES HOURS A WEEK OUT OF YOUR SCHEDULE AND THAT'S SOMETHING THAT YOU NEED TO COMPENSATE FOR.

IT'S SOMETHING THAT YOU HAVE TO DO. WE SPENT TIME TAKING CARE OF THE CITY AND IF YOU ARE SOMEONE THAT IS LOOKING FORWARD TO RUNNING IN THE FUTURE YOU NEED TO KNOW THAT THE CITY IS GOING TO HELP YOU TAKE CARE OF YOUR FAMILY AND THAT'S IMPORTANT.

THAT'S WHY I AM HERE TONIGHT SAYING THAT I WILL SUPPORT THIS.

>> WE DO HAVE ONE MORE REQUEST TO SPEAK. COMMISSIONER ROSS.

>> I WOULD JUST LIKE TO REITERATE THAT I DON'T THINK $6000 IS GOING TO MAKE UP A TREMENDOUS DIFFERENCE. I DON'T BELIEVE IN CRUISING $6000 AND PARTICULARLY WITH THE BUDGET THAT WAS PASSED WHICH WE HAVE ALREADY WRITTEN JUST ENOUGH TIME FOR THIS.

>> THE ONLY TIME I WOULD FEEL MORALLY AND ETHICALLY OKAY WITH DOING THIS IS THE YEAR WE DIDN'T RAISE TAXES.T HAS BEEN OVER A DECADE SINCE WE DIDN'T RAISE TAXES AND IN FACT I THINK WE ARE THE ONLY BOARD ON YOUR TAX BILL THAT DID NOT RAISE YOUR TAXES THIS YEAR.

THERE'S TALK ABOUT MENTIONING WHAT'S MY NAME BUT THERE'S TALK ABOUT THESE PEOPLE WHO RAISE YOUR TAXES AND I'LL TELL YOU WHAT. WE DID SUCH A GREAT JOB AS A COMMISSION THAT WE BUDGETED AND GOT EVERYTHING WE NEEDED TO GET THE JOB DONE AND WE ARE JUST REALLY AFFECTED BY JITTERS. FINALLY I WOULD SAY THAT THE REASON WE NEED TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE A DIVERSE POOL OF CANDIDATES. AS WE MOVE FORWARD INTO THE FUTURE IF WE NEVER DO THIS BEEN 30 YEARS SINCE THIS HAPPENED. IF WE NEVER DO THIS AND IT MAKES ANOTHER 30 YEARS YOU CERTAINLY WILL END UP WITH ONLY ONE TYPE OF PERSON WHO IS ABLE TO RUN.HIS EVER-PRESENT A LOT OF LOOK A LOT OF DIFFERENT WAYS BUT IT WOULD BE INDEPENDENTLY WEALTHY. SOMEONE WHO CAN JUST WORK AND WHO DOESN'T HAVE TO MAKE MONEY FOR THE FAMILY. I THINK THAT WOULD BE A REAL SHAME IT'S A LARGE PART RELATION. THAT REASON I WILL SUPPORT THIS PLEASE CALL THE ROLE.

[8.1 PAY AND CLASSIFICATION PLAN UPDATE - ORDINANCE 2023-33 AMENDING THE PAY AND CLASSIFICATION PLAN ESTABLISHED BY ORDINANCE 2022-08 PURSUANT TO CHARTER SECTION 30 AND CODE OF ORDINANCES SECTION 62-247; PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY; AND PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE. ]

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HAVE THE ORDINANCE.HE CLASSIFICATION AND ORDINATE. >> PAIN CONSERVATION PLAN UPDATE. ORDINANCE 2023 ? 33 AMENDING THE PAIN CLASSIFICATION PLAN ESTABLISHED BY ORDINANCE 2022 ? 08 PURSUANT TO THE CHARTER SECTION 30 AND CODE FOR ORDINANCE SECTION 62 ? 247. THE PUBLIC HEARING IS OPEN. WOULD ANYONE LIKE TO SPEAK ON THIS ISSUE? SEEING NONE PUBLIC HEARING IS CLOSED.

DO I HEAR A MOTION? >> MOVED TO APPROVE. >> SECOND.

>> HAVE A MOTION IN A SECOND ANY DISCUSSION? >> SEEING NONE CITY CLERK PLEASE CALL THE ROLE.

[9.1 ARTS AND CULTURE NASSAU - ATTENDANCE - Member Lauren Templeton. ]

>> THAT PASSES FIVE AND ZERO. HEADING DOWN TO ITEM 9. COURT APPOINTMENTS.RTS AND CULTURE

IN NASSAU ATTENDANCE. >> GOOD EVENING CATHERINE ROSSI .

THE PARKS AND RECREATION DEPARTMENT SUPPORTS THE BOARD. BEFORE YOU MAKE YOUR DECISION WE MADE A SHIFT IN OUR DEPARTMENT. THIS IS A PERFECT STORM IN MY OPINION. THIS MEMBER, MEMBER TEMPLETON DID NOT RECEIVE THE COMMUNICATIONS, THE BEST TYPE OF COMMUNICATION THAT WE COULD HAVE FOR HER.

WE COULD'VE DONE A BETTER JOB COMMUNICATING AND MAKE SURE SHE WAS GETTING YOUR EMAILS APPARENTLY THEY WERE GOING INTO THE SPAM FOLDER. IN THE ARTS AND CULTURE BOARD MAYBE THAT HAPPENED YESTERDAY. WE FOUND OUT THAT OTHER BOARD MEMBERS WERE ALSO NOT GETTING YOUR EMAILS. I JUST WANTED TO GIVE YOU THAT INFORMATION BEFORE YOU MAKE

YOUR DECISION TONIGHT. >> IF I COULD ASK HAS MS. TEMPLETON EXPRESSED THAT SHE

WOULD WISH TO CONTINUE TO SERVE? >> YES SHE'S VERY APOLOGETIC.

WE HAVE HER TAKEN CARE OF AND SHE'S GETTING HER EMAILS NOW. >> EXCELLENT.