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[00:00:01]

>> I CAN OFFICIALLY SAY ON THAT CLOCK,

[1. CALL TO ORDER]

GOOD AFTERNOON, ON THIS CLOCK, GOOD MORNING?

>> [INAUDIBLE] ONE.

>> NICE TO HAVE YOU ALL HERE TODAY.

LET'S CALL THE MEETING TO ORDER.

JASON, IF YOU WOULDN'T MIND DOING A ROLL CALL.

>> MEMBER ROBINSON. MEMBER TEMPLETON.

>> HERE.

>> MEMBER SHERICK.

>> HERE.

>> MEMBER BECKERHEM. JIRA SIANO.

>> HERE.

>> VICE-CHAIR REED.

>> HERE.

>> MEMBER FREEMEAN.

>> HERE.

>> MEMBER BEAN.

>> HERE.

>> MEMBER WILD.

>> HERE.

>> MEMBER WELLS.

>> HERE.

>> THANK YOU. CAN WE STAND FOR THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE? I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE.

>>

>> THANK YOU. YOU DID

[4. APPROVAL OF MINUTES]

RECEIVE THE MINUTES FOR SEPTEMBER MEETING TO MAKE SURE YOU HAD A CHANCE TO LOOK AT IT.

DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY ISSUES OR COMMENTS TO MAKE ON THOSE MINUTES? I HAVE ONE WORD CORRECTION, 6.2.

CHRISTIANA PRESENTED THE FORUM.

I DIDN'T PRESENT THE FORUM.

I PRESENTED THE AGENDA.

JUST A WORD CHANGE.

THAT'S ALL I HAD ON THAT.

THERE IS NO OTHER QUESTIONS OR CHANGES, WE NEED A MOTION TO ACCEPT THE SEPTEMBER 5TH MINUTES.

>> I'LL MAKE THE MOTION TO ACCEPT WITH THE CHANGE.

>> THANK YOU. SECOND.

>> SECOND.

>> THANKS, BRETT. ALL IN FAVOR?

>> AYE.

>> ANYBODY OPPOSED?

>> NO.

>> APPROVED. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

WE MOVE ON FROM THAT.

WE ALSO HAVE, IT LOOKS LIKE A LITTLE BIT OF A BACKLOG ON THE SUBCOMMITTEE MINUTES.

WE'RE SO DILIGENT ABOUT DOING YOUR JOB EVERY MONTH AND WE JUST FORGET TO [LAUGHTER] GO BACKWARDS AND APPROVE ALL THE MINUTES, SO THE BURDEN HAS NOW LANDED IN YOUR LAPS. THEY'RE PRETTY SIMPLE. [OVERLAPPING]

>> THAT'S [INAUDIBLE]. [OVERLAPPING]

>> SORRY. JUST A FORMAL PEACE WE HAVE TO DO.

I'LL GIVE YOU A SECOND TO JUST POP THROUGH IT.

BUT BASICALLY, I'M GOING TO TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE WHOLE PROCESS A LITTLE BIT LATER, BUT WE'RE JUST LOOKING FOR YOU TO OKAY THE MINUTE SO WE CAN ENTER THEM INTO THE OFFICIAL RECORD THAT EACH MONTH WE'VE HAD A MEETING GOING BACK TO JULY, AUGUST, EVEN BACK TO APRIL, JUNE, SO THEY'RE ALL THERE.

CAN I GET SOMEONE TO GIVE US A MOTION TO ACCEPT THE STEERING COMMITTEE PLANNING BOARD MEETING MINUTES AS SUBMITTED|? IT'S NOT THAT MUCH OF A RISK.

[LAUGHTER] IT'S JUST A MOTION TO ACCEPT THE MINUTE. [OVERLAPPING]

>> YOU DON'T HAVE TO BE PRESENT TOO.

>> YOU DON'T HAVE TO HAVE BEEN ATTENDING.

>> TO KNOW THAT THE MINUTES ARE CORRECT THOUGH.

>> CORRECT. THEY'RE SUBMITTED AS AN OFFICIAL DOCUMENT. ONCE YOU'VE ACCEPTED.

>> GO OUT ON A LIMB.

>> I'LL MOTION TO ADD ON A LIMB HERE.

>> ALL RIGHT.

>> APPROVE THE SUBCOMMITTEE MEETING MINUTES.

>> WE NEED A SECOND.

>> I'LL SECOND.

>> THANK YOU. ALL IN FAVOR?

>> AYE..

>> ANY OPPOSED? ANY QUESTIONS? NO. THANK YOU.

APPROVED. TERRIFIC. I SEE WE

[6.1 Pirate (Peg Leg Pete) Statue Downtown]

HAVE THE FAMOUS PIRATE JOE FROM [LAUGHTER] THE PIRATES CLUB WITH THIS TODAY, CATHERINE, YOU WANT TO INTRODUCE OR YOU WANT TO HAVE JOE MAKE A STATEMENT?

>> YOU WANT TO ASK FOR PUBLIC COMMENT ON ANYTHING NOT ON THE AGENDA? NUMBER 5. [OVERLAPPING]

>> YEAH. [OVERLAPPING]

>> BEFORE WE GET TO NUMBER 6.1.

>> I ASSUMED THAT HE WAS GOING TO MAKE A STATEMENT.

IT'S PUBLIC STATEMENT. IS THAT CORRECT? IS THERE ANYBODY MAKING A PUBLIC STATEMENT?

>> [INAUDIBLE].

>> THAT'S NOT ON THE AGENDA? NO? GOOD. FINE. THANK YOU.

>> ALL RIGHT.

>> APPRECIATE IT.

>> ALL RIGHT. SORRY ABOUT THAT.

CATHERINE VORRASI PARKS AND RECREATION DIRECTOR.

GOOD AFTERNOON. WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT IT.

I'VE BEEN TELLING YOU THAT WE'RE HAVING DISCUSSIONS ABOUT THE NEW PEG LEG PETE STATUE.

[00:05:05]

WE DO HAVE THE ARTIST, JET PAXTON IS HERE.

HE'S THE ONE THAT HAS CARVED THE NEW PEG LEG PETE STATUE.

IT'S ON 4TH STREET RIGHT NOW, RIGHT?

>> YEAH.

>> SITTING OVER THERE. IF YOU'VE DRIVEN BY AND SEEN IT, IT'S THERE.

JOE BROWN IS HERE, PRESIDENT OF THE PIRATES CLUB.

YOU DO HAVE IN YOUR PACKET AN APPLICATION FOR ART AND THIS IS PERMANENT ART, CORRECT? A COUPLE OF THINGS THAT WE WANT TO HAVE A DISCUSSION WITH ALL OF YOU ABOUT IT AND YOU MAY HAVE SOME QUESTIONS FOR THE ARTISTS OR FOR JOE IS THE LOCATION.

MANY OF YOU KNOW THE CURRENT PEG LEG PETE STATUE THAT IS DOWNTOWN NOW NEEDS TO FIND A NEW HOME.

IT'S BEYOND ITS MAINTENANCE LIFE, AND SO IT IS GOING TO BE REMOVED.

THERE IS A NEW PIRATE THAT'S BEEN CARVED BY JET.

WE'RE LOOKING AT THE LOCATION FOR THAT.

SHOULD THE LOCATION BE THERE.

SHOULD THE LOCATION B IN FRONT OF BRETT'S.

THE LOCATION ALSO BEING TALKED ABOUT IS OFF OF PARKING LOT, I'M DRAWING A BLANK.

LISA WHERE WE WERE TALKING ABOUT IN OUR MEETING WAS IT C? [OVERLAPPING]

>> BETWEEN A AND D. [OVERLAPPING]

>> IS THIS IS THE NEW? [OVERLAPPING]

>> WE ARE THE PROPOSED. [OVERLAPPING]

>> BETWEEN C AND D? [OVERLAPPING]

>> YEAH. [OVERLAPPING]

>> YEAH. [OVERLAPPING]

>> A LITTLE OF THE PIER OUT THERE. [OVERLAPPING]

>> C, ACTUALLY. [OVERLAPPING]

>> OFF OF PARKING LOT C. WE'RE NOT QUITE SURE ABOUT THE LOCATION.

WE WANT TO GET SOME FEEDBACK FROM ALL OF YOU ABOUT THAT.

>> YES. IF YOU HAD A PICTURE OF THE NEW. [OVERLAPPING]

>> HI, THERE. [OVERLAPPING]

>> THIS IS THE NEW ONE, BUT IT'S BEEN PAINTED, SO WE DON'T HAVE A RECENT PICTURE OF IT.

IT LOOKS VERY NICE.

ALL PAINTED UP AND I BELIEVE IT'S READY, IT'S DONE, CORRECT?

>> YES.

>> JUST WANTED TO START A DIALOGUE WITH YOU ABOUT THE PIRATE.

DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THE STATUE THAT WOULD LIKE TO ASK JET? NO.

>> WHERE IS THE HAT?

>> IT'S ON. [OVERLAPPING]

>> IT'S THERE.

>> IT'S UP THERE ON THE TOP.

>> IT'S ABOVE THE FACE.

>> YEAH, THE PAINT. [OVERLAPPING]

>> I WISH WE HAD A PICTURE OF THE PAINTED ONE.

IS THERE ANYTHING ONLINE?

>> I ACTUALLY HAVE A PICTURE ON MY FACEBOOK.

>> I DON'T KNOW IF WE CAN GET INTO FACEBOOK ON OUR COMPUTER.

>> HOW DOES IT COMPARE IN SIZE WITH THE PREVIOUS ONE?

>> THAT I MIGHT ASK.

>> IT'S PROBABLY A LITTLE BIT TALLER WITH EIGHT FEET.

>> EIGHT FEET TALL?

>> IT WAS EIGHT FEET [INAUDIBLE]

>> IT'S TALLER THAN THE CURRENT ONE, BUT THE CURRENT ONE IS ON THAT BIG PLATFORM, CORRECT?

>> [INAUDIBLE]

>> YES.

>> I WAS A LITTLE CONFUSED READING THIS.

I ASSUMED IT WAS GOING TO KNOW I'M CONFUSED.

I ASSUMED THAT IT WAS GOING ON THE SAME PLATFORM OR SOMETHING SIMILAR ABOVE THE GROUND LEVEL.

>> YEAH. SO WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO WITH WHEREVER IT IS PLACED IS I THINK THE CITY IS GOING TO HAVE TO BE INVOLVED IN A NEW PLATFORM FOR IT TO BE ON.

WE WERE JUST TALKING BEFORE THE MEETING.

IT'S GOING TO NEED TO BE SOMETHING THAT CAN'T BE STOOD ON, SOMETHING PICTURE A LITTLE MOUNTAIN OR A LITTLE TRIANGLE UNDERNEATH SO NO ONE CAN ACTUALLY STAND ON IT AND CLIMB ON THE PIRATE.

WHAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR TODAY IS YOUR THOUGHTS, YOUR SUPPORT, ACCEPTING THIS ART AS PERMANENT ART AND ALSO A LOCATION RECOMMENDATION.

I KNOW THE CITY HAS EXPRESSED INTERESTS IN THE THE PEER, IF YOU WILL, THE BOARDWALK OUT THERE ON OFF OF PARKING LOTS.

SEE, WE COULD ATTACH IT VERY EASILY.

THEIR PLUSES AND MINUSES EVERYWHERE.

THERE'S ALSO WHERE IT CURRENTLY IS.

THAT'S DEFINITELY A GREAT LOCATION, WELL AND THEN WE WERE JUST TALKING ABOUT IN FRONT OF BRETT'S.

THERE IS GOING TO BE CHANGES OUT THERE IN THE FUTURE WITH STREETSCAPES AND ALL THINGS AND SO IF IT'S PLACED DOWN THERE IN THAT AREA IN FRONT OF BRETTS, THEN IT MIGHT MOVE.

BUT WE WOULD MOVE IT DEPENDING ON WHAT'S HAPPENING DOWN THERE AND YOUR INVOLVEMENT OR YOU WOULD BE INVOLVED AS ARTS AND CULTURE IF IT NEEDS TO FIND A NEW HOME, MAYBE ON ANOTHER LITTLE ISLAND OR SOMETHING DOWN THERE IN THE PARKING LOT AREA.

>> I CAN JUST MAKE ONE COMMENT.

WHEN WE HAVE LOTS OF TOURISTS IN THE AREA, LIKE WHERE IT'S LOCATED NOW WAS ALWAYS BUSY TAKING THE PICTURES IN FRONT OF IT AND SO FORTH.

I THINK THAT'S A PERFECT AREA MYSELF, THE PARKING LOT IN BRETTS WITH ALL THE CONTROVERSY THAT IS IN THAT LOCATION, WHERE THAT'S GOING TO BE TORN DOWN OR NOT.

[00:10:04]

WHETHER THE STRUCTURE IS SOUND, I LIKE THE IDEA OF WHERE IT IS MYSELF.

>> BEFORE I LIVED HERE AS A VISITOR, THAT WAS AN ATTRACTION.

SINCE I DO LIVE HERE NOW, EVERYBODY THAT COMES TO VISIT, THAT'S JUST AN AREA THAT EVERYBODY GOES TO, BUT I WOULD BE CURIOUS AS TO THE ARTISTS THEMSELVES IF THEY HAD A PERFECT WORLD PICK. WHERE WERE THEY WITH IT?

>> JEFF, WOULD YOU COME UP HERE FOR US?

>> SURE.

>> SINCE WE'RE A PUBLIC MEETING, THEY WANT TO HEAR YOU IN THE MICROPHONE.

>> I'VE ONLY LIVED HERE FOR THREE YEARS, BUT I'VE ALWAYS VISITED FOR SINCE I WAS LIKE FOUR AND WE ALWAYS USED TO TAKE PICTURES OF THAT SPOT AND I REALLY JUST LOVE THAT AREA.

I'VE JUST REMEMBERED SINCE I WAS LIKE ABOUT FOUR, LIKE THIS STYLE, JUST TAKING PICTURES DOWN THERE. I LIKED THAT AREA.

AS FAR AS THE OTHER BRETTS CAFE NEAR BRETTS CAFE, I THINK THAT'S HAVING TOO MUCH DEVELOPMENT RIGHT NOW.

I DON'T THINK THAT'D BE THE BEST AREA FOR IT.

I PERSONALLY DISLIKED THE AREA THAT IT IS IN NOW.

>> OKAY. THANK YOU.

>> I WOULD LIKE TO PIGGYBACK ON WHAT FRANCE AND MY CONCERN IS IF IT GOES TO THE PARKING LOT AREA BY THE PETER, VERY FEW PEOPLE WILL SEE IT, BECAUSE IT'S NOT A HEAVILY TRAVELED AREA, DOESN'T MAKE A WHOLE LOT OF SENSE TO ME.

MECHANICALLY, IT MIGHT BE EASY FOR THE CITY TO PUT IT THERE, BUT I THINK IT'S A TOURIST ATTRACTION AND IT'S GUARDING OUR HARBOR OR SOMETHING AND SQUARE OR ROOTING OUR HARBOR OR SOMETHING.

[LAUGHTER] IT WOULD SEEM TO ME WHERE IT IS NOW AND I HAVE THE SAME CONCERNS ABOUT WHATEVER'S GOING TO HAPPEN AT BRETTS, WHENEVER IT HAPPENS.

>> YEAH.

>> IT COULD JUST CREATE MORE ISSUES.

>> WE DO HAVE THE RIGHT AT SOME POINT WITH THE CITY THAT ONCE YOU FINISH THE CHANGE TO THE MARINA FRONTAGE, HOWEVER, THAT PARKING LOT CHANGES TO THEN COME BACK AND SAY, HEY, OKAY, NOW WE'VE GOT A GREAT SPOT FOR THE STATUE, MEANING WE COULD KEEP IT WHERE IT IS AND ALWAYS COME BACK IN THE CITY.

COULD ALWAYS COME BACK AND SAY, HEY, WE'D LIKE YOU TO LOOK AT THIS LOCATION.

IT SEEMS LIKE WE'RE REALLY LIKE THE ICONIC IMAGE.

WE LIKE EVERYTHING ABOUT PIRATE.

IT'S PART OF CULTURE IN THIS LITTLE COMMUNITY.

THE FOOTBALL TEAMS GOT THE SAME NAME.

WE'RE ALL INTERESTED IN SEEING THE PIRATES DURING THE EVENTS IN FESTIVITIES.

THEY BRING A LOT OF THIS CULTURE PIECE AND THIS STATUE MINIMIZES EXACTLY WHAT THAT MEANS.

THAT LOCATION IS LIKE THE CROSSROADS OF CENTER STREET.

EVEN THOUGH THE STREET GOES UP AND AROUND, THAT ONE SPOT REALLY GRAVITATES FOR THE VISITORS, BUT WE ALWAYS HOLD OPEN THE OPPORTUNITY FOR THE CITY TO COME BACK AND SEE IN OUR MESH TO PLAN, HERE'S WHAT WE'RE DOING.

THIS RESTAURANT WILL BE THIS AND THAT, CHANGE THE PARK AND WE'D LIKE TO CONSIDER WHERE THE ANCHOR IS TO MAYBE MOVE THE PIRATE BECAUSE I FEEL COMFORTABLE IN JOINING THE BOARD HERE AND THE RECOMMENDATION TO KEEP IT WHERE IT IS, BUT ALWAYS HAVE THE OPTION TO GO WITH THE NEW PLAN ONCE YOU HAVE ALL FIGURED IT OUT.

>> I THINK THE QUESTION IS THOUGH, WHERE DO WE WANT TO PUT THE STATUTE FOR PERMANENT STRUCTURE, RIGHT? [OVERLAPPING]

>> YEAH. I'M HEARING THAT WHY I HAVEN'T HEARD FROM EVERYONE, BUT IF THE CONSENSUS IS TO HAVE THE NEW PEG LEG PETE.

ARE WE CALLING IT PEG LEG PETE? DOES HE HAVE ANOTHER NAME? I DON'T WANT TO COME [INAUDIBLE]

>> JUNIOR.

>> JUNIOR? IT SOUNDS LIKE THIS BOARD IS GIVING THE RECOMMENDATION THAT IT SHOULD BE WORTHY OTHER ONE, WHEN THE OTHER ONE GETS REMOVED, THAT SHOULD GO IN IT'S PLACE.

I'M SEEING SOME HEAD NODS.

>> I AGREE. JUST A QUICK QUESTION.

WHAT IS THE PLAN WITH THE ORIGINAL PEG LEG PETE SENIOR.

WE'RE SEEING YOU'RE GOING TO GO? WHAT'S THE PLAN WITH THE ONE THAT'S CURRENTLY THERE ONCE IT'S REMOVED, DO WE HAVE A PLAN FOR THAT?

>> WOULD YOU LIKE TO SPEAK TO THAT BECAUSE I WOULD JUST BE REPEATING [OVERLAPPING].

>> I'LL TALK TO THE MUSEUM ABOUT IT AND THEY WOULD BE INTERESTED IN TAKING IT.

>> WOULD YOU SAY THAT TO THE MIC PLEASE? WE HAVE THREE MINUTES.

>> I DID TALK TO THE MUSEUM AND JUST WHEN WE WERE STARTING IN US AND THEY WOULD BE INTERESTED IN TAKING THE ORIGINAL PEG LEG AND PUTTING THEM ON DISPLAY SOMEWHERE.

>> I THINK THAT'S GREAT.

I KNOW THAT FOLKS IN THIS TOWN REALLY LIKE TO KEEP THEIR HISTORY, SO I THINK IF WE CAN. [OVERLAPPING]

>> OH, SURE. YEAH, WE WOULDN'T WANT TO GET RID OF INFO, YEAH.

>> I THINK THAT'S WONDERFUL, SO PERFECT AND I AGREE, KATHRYN,

[00:15:02]

WE PUTTING IT WHERE THE ORIGINAL ONE IS, SO GREAT.

>> HOW LONG HAS IT BEEN THERE?

>> ORIGINAL ONE WAS CARVED IN 1979.

>> OH, MY WORD.

>> HE WAS ORIGINALLY ACROSS THE STREET WHERE THE ANCHOR IS NOW IN FRONT OF BRETTS AND SOMETIME I GUESS WHEN DURING THE BUILDING OF BRETTS AND STUFF LIKE THAT, HE WAS MOVED ACROSS THE STREET TO WHERE IT IS NOW.

>> IT'S A GREAT LOCATION.

>> YEAH.

>> FORTY-FOUR YEARS, WOW. AWESOME.

>> HE'S BEEN AROUND FOR AWHILE. SO LIKE 45 YEARS JUST ABOUT.

>> BEFORE YOU TAKE A VOTE ON THIS.

ERIC MARTELE IS HERE FOR A PUBLIC COMMENT RELATED TO THIS DISCUSSION ITEM.

YOU'D LIKE TO HEAR HIS PUBLIC COMMENT? YOU WANT TO COME UP? DID YOU HAVE PUBLIC COMMENT?

>> YEAH.

>> OKAY, COME ON UP. THIS IS YOUR TIME.

>> HI, I'M ERIC MARTEL, 3820 SOUTH FLETCHER.

I'M A MEMBER OF THE CRA ADVISORY BOARD, PASS MEMBER WITH PARKS AND REC ADVISORY COMMITTEE, ALL OF THE WATERFRONT COMMITTEES, ETC.

I'M A DESIGNER, RETIRED DESIGN CONSULTANT.

I'VE LOOKED AT ALSO LOCATIONS FOR THE STATUE OVER THE PAST SEVERAL YEARS AND DONE A NUMBER OF DESIGN-RELATED LOOKS AT THE WATERFRONT.

I'M THE GUY THAT DREW THE PLAN THAT WAS APPROVED BY THE CITY COMMISSION IN 2012 FOR THE WATERFRONT.

IT'S SOMETHING THAT I'VE BEEN INTERESTED IN FOR A LONG TIME.

I JUST WANTED TO MENTION ONE THING REGARDING THE LOCATION WHERE IT IS NOW.

I'VE HAD CONVERSATIONS OVER PAST YEARS WITH ADAM KAUFMAN FROM THE RESTORATION FOUNDATION, AND IT WAS ALWAYS HIS, AND I DON'T WANT TO SPEAK FOR THE RESTORATION FOUNDATION BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT HERE.

THEY ALWAYS FAVORED MOVING IT BACK TO CLOSER TO BREATHS BECAUSE THAT WAS ITS HISTORIC LOCATION.

AND ALSO, THEY SEE A CONFLICT ARTISTICALLY BETWEEN THE EGG-LEG STATUE AND THE DAVID USUALLY STATUE.

BECAUSE THEY'RE VERY CLOSE TOGETHER, AND STYLISTICALLY, THEY'RE REALLY DIFFERENT.

ONE IS VERY HISTORIC, THE OTHER IS MORE CULTURAL, AND SO ON.

IN TERMS OF THE FUTURE, WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT'S GOING TO LOOK LIKE, BUT I'VE CERTAINLY LOOKED AT IT, AND OTHER PEOPLE HAVE LOOKED AT LAYOUTS FOR PARKING LOTS A AND B.

WE HAVE A PLAN BEFORE THE TRC COMMITTEE FOR PARKING LOTS C AND D. WE'RE MOVING FORWARD WITH ALL THOSE THINGS.

WHEN BREATHS GETS SORTED OUT, THEN WE'LL KNOW MORE ABOUT THAT.

THE WATERFRONT FITS WITHIN THE CRA DISTRICT, AND SO I'M A MEMBER OF THAT COMMITTEE.

ANYWAY, I GUESS I WOULD LIKE TO EXPRESS THAT.

IF YOU DECIDE TO PUT IT CLOSER TO BREATHS ON THE OTHER SIDE, ON THE WEST SIDE OF THE TRACKS, THAT THERE WILL BE A REALLY GREAT LOCATION SETUP FOR IT.

IT'S AN IMPORTANT THING.

I KNOW THAT EVERYBODY ELSE KNOWS THAT, AND SO WE WILL FIND A GREAT LOCATION FOR IT AND SOMETHING APPROPRIATE FOR PHOTOGRAPHY AND THE WHOLE THING.

I HAVE A LONG HISTORY OF BACKGROUND IN PHOTOGRAPHY, ARCHITECTURAL PHOTOGRAPHY, AND ALL STUFF.

I'M AWARE OF THE ISSUES INVOLVED WITH THAT.

>> YOU DO AGREE, THOUGH, THAT THERE WILL BE SOME CHANGES MADE TO THAT WHOLE AREA AROUND FOR IT.

>> ABSOLUTELY.

>> WE DON'T CONTEST THAT.

THAT'S NOT THE RIGHT THING TO DO.

WE TOTALLY AGREE WITH YOU AND LOOK FORWARD TO THAT.

BUT IN THE INTERIM, WE ALSO LIKE THE CONTINUITY THAT THE TOURISTS AND VISITORS, THE RESIDENTS, HAVE WITH SOMETHING THAT'S FIXTURE, SO TO SPEAK.

WITH ALL THE COMMERCIALISM AND THE DEVELOPMENT, AND THE SHIFTS IN POPULATION, THINGS WE'D LIKE TO FEEL LIKE THIS IS LIKE ANCHORS, ANCHORS THE CULTURAL PART OF THE COMMUNITY.

WE'D LIKE TO KEEP DOING THAT FOR AS LONG AS WE CAN, BUT WE DON'T DISMISS THE IDEA THAT YOU'RE GOING TO DO AND YOUR DESIGNS OR WHATEVER, A BETTER OPPORTUNITY ACROSS THE STREET.

BUT RATHER THAN JUMP TO THAT AND THEN HAVE THEM MOVE IT AGAIN.

WE WOULD SEE THAT THIS IS ALMOST READY.

[00:20:03]

I THINK IT'S ALREADY PAINTED, WHICH MEANS WE CAN HAVE THIS THING IN PLACE FOR TICKETS.

I THINK EVERYBODY GETS A COMFORT LEVEL ABOUT THOSE KINDS OF THINGS IN A COMMUNITY THAT YOU MAY NOT LIVE HERE, BUT WHEN YOU TRAVEL TO IT, IT'S A TOUCHSTONE.

THAT STATA, YOU GOT TO COME AND TAKE A PICTURE OVER HERE.

WE HAVE ISSUES WITH THE BASE, ISSUES WITH SAFETY OF THE STRUCTURE OF THIS AS AN ANTICODON ARM.

WE'VE GOT TO MAKE SURE KIDS DON'T CLIMB ON IT.

THAT'S THE NEXT CONVERSATION.

BUT WE REALLY I WHAT WOULD DECIDE? I REALLY THINK THIS IS, LET'S GO BACK TO WHERE WE ARE, AND THEN WE'LL LOOK FORWARD TO THE NEXT OPPORTUNITY.

>> IS THERE ANY TIMELINE AS TO WHEN ALL OF THESE THINGS WOULD BE IN PLACE?

>>[LAUGHTER] ARE YOU KIDDING?[OVERLAPPING] IS GOING ON WITH THE TEST.

AND IT STILL HASN'T CHANGED.

>> IT IS FUNNY THERE.

>> BECAUSE, I MEAN, I GUESS IF WE DID SOMETHING ABOUT IMPROVING THE CURRENT LOCATION WITH A REVISIT AND FIVE OR SEVEN YEARS.

>> MAYBE 20, [LAUGHTER].

>> OR WHATEVER TIMELINE WE'VE SEEN WOULD BE REALISTIC.

JUST DID. IT'S NOT STUCK THERE. I CAN REVISIT IT.

>> I THINK LISA, ON MAIN STREET, AND KATHERINE WITH THE PARKS, THEY'RE CONSTANTLY FOCUSED ON HOW THIS IS GOING TO LOOK AND WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN ALONG WITH THE HISTORIC.

BUT JOE, WHAT'S YOUR OPINION? THANK YOU.

THANK YOU FOR THAT COMMENT.

I'LL LET YOUR DRUTHERS ON THIS.

>> PERSONALLY, I THINK FOR NOW, PUTTING BACK WHERE HE IS, MODIFY THE BASE.

THE BASE JUST INVITES PEOPLE TO WHERE THE BASE IS NOW INVITES PEOPLE TO GET UP AND WALK AROUND HANGING ON HIM, BUT REDESIGNED THE BASE SO IT'S MORE TAPERED AND YOU CAN'T GET UP ON IT.

IF IN THE YEARS TO COME A BETTER PLACE POPS UP FOR HIM, WHATEVER THEY'RE GOING TO END UP GOING DOWN SO WE COULD REVISIT, LOCATED.

YOU REALLY WOULDN'T BE THAT BIG OF A DEAL.

>> SOMEONE COULD ALWAYS THE PUBLIC CAN ALWAYS MAKE IT A MOTION ASKED TO RE-VISIT IT RIGHT NOW.

WE'RE HERE TO PERMANENT LOCATION.

>> PERMANENT OR TEMPORARY LOCATION MAYBE [LAUGHTER] THANK YOU.

>> I'M JUST A LITTLE BIT CONCERNED BECAUSE I WANT TO RESPECT THE WORK OF THE ARTIST COMPLETELY.

THAT THERE'S GOING BECAUSE THIS TOWN IS A PLACE WHERE HISTORY, HISTORICAL, ACCURATE STUFF, IT'S VERY IMPORTANT.

I'M JUST QUESTIONING, I DON'T KNOW ABOUT FEEDBACK OF COMPARISON BETWEEN THE CHAIR.

THIS IS AS YOU SAID, IT'S NOT A REPLACEMENT, IT'S MORE OF A MORE CONTEMPORARY.

IT LIKE IF I'M CORRECT, TAKING THE SCULPTURE INTO A NEW, MORE CONTEMPORARY LIGHT RATHER THAN TRYING TO JUST MERELY REPLACE THE OLD ONE.

IN GETTING SOME OF THE NEWS SPEEDS.

SOME PEOPLE IN THIS COMMUNITY LOVE TO TAKE ISSUE WITH EVERYTHING THAT IS A REPLACEMENT OF SOMETHING ELSE BY WINDING OR COMPLAINING.

HOW COME THIS, HOW COME THAT? SINCE THIS IS A NEW REINVENTION OF IT, I WOULD JUST HATE TO HAVE IT EXPOSED TO THAT PIECE.

I'M NOT MAKING IT; I'M NOT SAYING ONE WAY.

I THINK THAT IN FRONT OF THE SOLUTE IS A GREAT PLACE.

BUT I WOULD HATE IT, WOULD BE SAD IF IT STIRRED CONTROVERSY.

THAT'S SOMETHING THAT I DON'T KNOW IF WE CAN DETERMINE IF IT WOULD HAPPEN TO BE A NEW FIGURE AND THE NEW PAINT JOB IN A NEW PLACE WITH THE NEW ARTIST, THEN IT'S A NEW CONFIGURATION RATHER THAN A REPLACEMENT.

JUST SOMETHING TO THINK ABOUT.

NOTHING. I DON'T KNOW REALLY HOW I FEEL ABOUT IT.

I CAN ARGUE EITHER WAY, BUT I JUST FEEL SAFE IN THE AREA OF CONTENTION FOR PEOPLE LIVING HERE FOREVER.THEY JUST LIKE TO HAVE DON'T LIKE THINGS THAT CHANGE.

I'M JUST ADDING THAT.

>> MY ASSUMPTION IS THAT THEY'RE PROBABLY NOT VERY MANY PEOPLE HERE WHO REMEMBER WHEN IT WAS ACROSS THE STREET.

[00:25:03]

>> THERE ARE A FEW PEOPLE I'VE TALKED TO, PEOPLE WHO HAVE BEEN BORN AND RAISED HERE.

THEY'RE EVEN EXCITED ABOUT THE NEW PEG LEG.

THE ONE IS CENTER NOW HE'S BEEN OF SENSES IN HIS LIFE.

HE'S BEEN REPAIRED TWICE, BUT IT'S REALLY BEYOND THE REPAIR POINT NOW HE'S JUST.

>> I GUESS MY POINT IS, I THINK WE'RE MORE LIKELY THE PROJECT IS MORE LIKELY TO GET DISGRUNTLED COMPLAINTS IF IT NOT ONLY HAS IT CHANGED, BUT ALSO MOVED.

>> IT IS SLIGHTLY I MEAN, ARTIST'S INTERPRETATION OF WHAT'S THERE.

DIDN'T WANT IT TO LOOK EXACTLY LIKE LIKE THE NEW ONE.

BUT IT'S A VERY GOOD RESEMBLANCE IN SIZE, PROPORTION, AND LOOKS, COLORS.

WE'VE KEPT THE COLORS PRETTY MUCH THE SAME.

OF COURSE, WE BRIGHTEN THEM UP A LITTLE BIT, BUT THEY'VE EVEN AGED IT.

BUT I SAY, I'M I WOULDN'T BE SURPRISED IF THERE WAS REALLY ANY NEGATIVE FEEDBACK TOWARDS HIM.

I THINK FROM EVERYBODY I'VE TALKED TO YOU AND PEOPLE HAVE BEEN HERE ALL THEIR LIVES THERE.

THEY'RE LOOKING FORWARD TO IT.

>> I THINK THAT WAS WHAT I WAS GETTING AT TOO, IS IF WE HAVE A REALLY GREAT STORY ABOUT THE ORIGINAL PITS MOVING TO THE MUSEUM AND DOES A REALLY GREAT JOB OF ROLLING THAT STUFF OUT ONLINE.

I THINK THAT'S GREAT.

I THINK IF WE CAN, IF WE CAN JUST EXPLAIN WHY WE HAVE TO DO THOSE BECAUSE IT'S, HE'S OLD AND HE'S READY TO RETURN.

>> A FEW MORE YEARS. HE'S JUST GOING TO BE A STUMP THERE.

[LAUGHTER]

>> I THINK THE STAFF, YOU ALL DO A GREAT JOB PUTTING STUFF OUT THERE TOO.

>> THE ONLY WAY FOR YOU TO BE OFFENDED IS IF YOU TELL THEM, AT AGE 44, THEY'RE OLD AND NEED TO BE.

[LAUGHTER]

>> DOING WHAT EVERYONE DOES SOMETIME.

BUT I THINK THAT'S MAYBE PAY ME GO TO A MINUTE WITH MAYOR SOMETHING ON IT.

>> I'M SORRY.

>> WE'LL ALSO DO A BIG PROMOTION.

>> I'M SURE THERE ARE GOOD AND TAKING CARE OF HER AND STUFF.

>> IN A BIG RIGHT THING TO DO WHEN IT ACTUALLY, WHAT'S THE WORD I'M LOOKING FOR?

>> COMMEMORATED [OVERLAPPING].

>> KATHERINE, WHO TAKES CARE OF THAT HOOPLA STEP. IS THAT A LISA THING?

>> JOY.

>> SHE'S RIGHT THERE. SORRY.

[LAUGHTER]

>> HI, LISA FINKELSTEIN.

I'M THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR FOR FERNANDINA BEACH, MAIN STREET.

NOT TO THROW A WRINKLE INTO THIS, BUT IN OUR LARGER, LONGER-TERM PLANS FOR THE LANDSCAPING DOWNTOWN.

I THINK I'VE TALKED TO THIS GROUP ABOUT THE POSSIBILITY FOR SOME PUBLIC ART IN SOME OF OUR RAISED BEDS ALONG CENTER STREET.

THERE ARE AT LEAST THREE BEDS THAT WE'VE IDENTIFIED AS WE'RE WORKING ON OUR LANDSCAPE DESIGN THAT WOULD BE APPROPRIATE FOR PUBLIC ART.

ONE OF WHICH IS THE LARGE BED THAT IS ACROSS THE STREET FROM THE WELCOME DEPOT IN FRONT OF CINNAMON BEAR.

AS YOU TAKE THAT MID-BLOCK CROSSWALK, IT'S RIGHT THERE, AND SO THAT WOULD BE ANOTHER CONSIDERATION THAT WOULD KEEP IT NEAR THE VERY CENTER OF TOWN IN THAT VERY PUBLIC SPACE.

BUT IT WOULD PULL IT ACROSS THE STREET AND AWAY FROM THE DAVID ULI STATUE.

IT WOULD PROTECT IT BY VIRTUE OF BEING IN THE CENTER OF THE FLOWER BED AREA.

WE WOULD JUST HAVE TO PUT SOMETHING THERE THAT WOULD INDICATE THAT PEOPLE CAN'T WALK INTO THE FLOWER BED.

BUT JUST THE THOUGHT AS YOU'RE CONSIDERING POSSIBLE LOCATIONS THAT THAT MIGHT BE A GOOD SPOT FOR IT, SO.

>> THANK YOU.

>> WOULD IT BE MORE OUT IN THE OPEN IN THAT LOCATION AS THE BACK OF IT BEING A BUILDING BEHIND IT.

IT WOULDN'T BE OPENED.

THE LOCATION YOU'RE SPEAKING OF?

>> THE LOCATION WHERE IT IS NOW IS COMPLETELY OPEN [OVERLAPPING] NO, THAT'S A PICTURE OF.

THAT WAS WHERE THEY WERE PAINTING IT.

NOW WHERE IT IS NOW IS OUT IN THE OPEN.

THAT'S NOT PROTECTED BY ANYTHING, SO THAT WOULDN'T BE DIFFERENT.

>> THIS ITEM IS TENTATIVELY ON THE OCTOBER 17TH COMMISSION MEETING AGENDA, RIGHT BEFORE IT IS YOUR UPDATED TEMPORARY AND PERMANENT ART APPLICATION THAT YOU ALL LOOKED AT A COUPLE OF MONTHS AGO.

THE IDEA IS THAT THEY'LL APPROVE THE APPLICATION PROCESS.

AND THEN THEY'LL SEE THIS ART PERMANENT ART INSTALLATION,

[00:30:03]

BUT WITH THE OLD APPLICATION.

WE HAVE NOT ASKED TO THE APPLICANT JOE AND JETT TO DO A NEW APPLICATION BECAUSE IT HASN'T GONE THROUGH ALL THE APPROVALS.

WE DIDN'T WANT TO GET IT ON THE NEXT COMMISSION AGENDA.

BOTH OF THOSE ITEMS ARE TENTATIVELY ON THE NEXT COMMISSION AGENDA, SO IT WOULD BE GREAT IF YOU ALL COULD LEAD ME IN A DIRECTION TODAY.

>> VERY GOOD. I THINK WE CAN TAKE A CONSENSUS OF OPINION ON.

>> PROBABLY NEED TO HAVE A BOOK.

>> YEAH, WE ARE. BUT I JUST WANTED TO SET IT UP.

>> I'M SORRY.

>> I THINK WE CAN BASED ON THE CONVERSATION WE JUST HAD IN THE COMMENTS I'VE HAD, WE CAN VOTE ON THIS.

WHETHER, AND I'M ASSUMING THAT THE FIRST VOTE WOULD BE TO KEEP IT WHERE IT IS, AND IF THAT DOESN'T WORK, THEN WE'D GO TO AN ALTERNATIVE LOCATION OR TABLE IF WE CAN'T COME TO A RECENT DECISION.

I'M GOING TO DO IT BY NAME, CALL, VOTE.

>> THAT PROBABLY BE THE BEST SINCE THERE'S SO MANY NEW AND WE'VE SEEN A MOTION.

>> YES, ABSOLUTELY. TO NOW WRAP UP THIS CONVERSATION WITH REPLACING THE OLD PIRATE WITH THE PIRATE JUNIORS TO WHATEVER.

BASED ON THE COMMENTS WE JUST HAD, I NEED A MOTION TO ACCEPT THE ORIGINAL LOCATION FOR THE NEW PIRATES STATUE.

>> MOTION.

>> IT'S BRAD WITH A WAS SECOND.

>> SECOND.

>> ANN, SECOND. THANK YOU ALL.

>> BEFORE YOU MAKE YOUR VOTE, SINCE WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND ON THE FLOOR. THANK YOU BOTH.

THIS LOCATION IS IN THE HISTORIC DISTRICT, SO THIS WON'T BE ON THE NEXT COMMISSION AGENDA, BUT YOUR TEMPORARY AND PERMANENT OR APPLICATION WILL, THIS HAS TO GO BEFORE THE HDC ALSO.

BUT WE STILL NEED DIRECTION FROM YOU ALL AS A BOARD.

CAN YOU CONTINUE YOUR VOTE, BUT IT'S NOT GOING TO GO TO THE COMMISSION ON THE 17TH LIKE I THOUGHT, BECAUSE WE HAVE TO GO TO ONE MORE BOARD.

>> THEN WHAT POINT OF INFORMATION IS IT ONCE IT GOES TO THE APPROVAL IN NOVEMBER, IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE THINKING FROM THE CITY?

>> WHEN WOULD IT GO TO HDC IN NOVEMBER?

>> NOVEMBER.

>> MAYBE THE SECOND MEETING IN NOVEMBER IF WE CAN GET IT ALL FIGURED OUT.

>> THE QUESTION I HAVE IS WILL IT BE DONE, PAINTED, FINISH UP? [OVERLAPPING] DONE.

ONCE IN NOVEMBER WE COULD MAKE IT THE DICKENS EVENT IF.

>> IT'LL BE READY FOR DICKENS, IF THE CITY AND THE ARTISTS AND THE PIRATES CLUBS, WE CAN FIGURE OUT A BASE.

>> IF THAT'S NOT THE CASE, WE'RE NOT GOING TO TAKE THE OTHER ONE DOWN DURING DICKENS [OVERLAPPING]

>> WE CAN'T BE PART OF THAT FOR THE FIRST YEAR.

>> I BEG YOUR PARDON, I DO WANT TO MAKE A COMMENT BEFORE WE GO TO THE VOTE FOR THE RECORD.

I FROM STRICTLY AN ARTISTIC STANDPOINT, AGREE FULLY WITH OUR DESIGN CONSULTANT THAT MADE HIS COMMENTS.

ARTISTICALLY, I SEE DAVID ULYSSES IS IT A BRONZE SCULPTURE AND THE NEW BEAUTIFUL PIRATE IN WOOD.

I AGREE WITH YOU THAT THEY DO DESERVE THEIR OWN SEPARATE SPHERE.

I JUST SEE THEM IN CONFLICT, AND I JUST THINK THAT COMPOSITIONALLY DOESN'T WORK.

I JUST WANTED TO SHARE THAT. THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU. LET'S DO A ROLL CALL VOTE.

WE'VE GOT THE MOTION IN A SECOND.

THIS WOULD BE THE VOTE TO HAVE THE NEW STATUE RECOMMENDED BY ARTS AND CULTURE NASA TO BE PUT IN THE SAME SPOT THAT IT IS NOW WITH MODIFICATIONS TO ADJUST FOR NOT STANDING ON. GO AHEAD. GOOD.

>> MEMBER TUNNELTON?

>> NEY.

>> REMEMBER SHEY.

>> [LAUGHTER] WOW, I WAS OUT ALL FOR THAT UNTIL I'VE HEARD THE OTHER COMMENTS. I'LL GO YES.

>> MEMBER BAKER HINTON?

>> YES.

>> DO YOU REST THE HONOR

>> YES.

>> WESTER READ?

>> YES.

>> [NOISE] MEMBER FREEMAN?

>> YES.

>> MEMBER BEAN?

>> YES.

>> MEMBER WILD.

>> YES.

>> MEMBER WELLS?

>> YES.

>> PASSES.

>> GOOD, YOU GOT YOUR SENSE OF DIRECTION AND WE HELPED TO KEEP US UP ON HOW IT HOW IT PROGRESSES.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH. [NOISE] THAT WAS APPROVED.

>> YOU HAVE TO HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE A PERMANENT ART APPLICATION.

>> WE DIDN'T GET THAT UNTIL THEY APPROVED THE APPLICATION ITSELF.

[00:35:01]

THEY HAVEN'T DONE THAT. THAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN NEXT.

>> IF THEY DON'T PASS?

>> WE APPROVE THE APPLICATIONS.

>> THAT'S WHAT I MEAN.

>> YEAH, BUT THEY DIDN'T APPROVE THE NEW ONE.

[OVERLAPPING]

>> WE APPROVED IT.

>> WAIT.

>> WE ONLY HAVE THE TEMPORARY APPLICATIONS.

WE DON'T HAVE TO PERMANENT ART APPLICATIONS.

>> THAT WAS IN JUNE.

>> YES, IT WAS APPROVED IN JUNE.

>> NO, WE DIDN'T APPROVE IT. WE WROTE IT IN JUNE BECAUSE THAT'S THE ONLY APPLICATION.

>> CATHERINE, WE DON'T HAVE TO TERMINATE OUR APPLICATION.

WE ONLY HAVE A TEMPORARY ART APPLICATION.

>> THE APPLICATION THAT YOU HAVE IN YOUR PACKET, THEY'VE CHECKED PERMANENT ART.

THIS IS THE REASON FOR THE UPDATED APPLICATION.

>> PERMANENT ART. [OVERLAPPING]

>> THAT WE HAD A IN JUNE.

>> WHAT YOU'RE SAYING IS THAT THEY DO HAVE TO FILL OUT THE NEW PERMANENT APPLICATION ONCE IT'S APPROVED BY THE COUNCIL, COMMISSION, WHATEVER THEY'RE CALLED.

>> THEY HAVE COME TO YOU WITH THE OLD APPLICATION BECAUSE THE NEW ONE'S NOT BEEN APPROVED YET, SO TO GET THEM THROUGH THE PROCESS [OVERLAPPING]

>> THE FORM ITSELF?

>> YES.

>> YEAH, THE FORM.

>> WE'RE JUST SOLVING FOR FORM.

>> THEY'RE GOING THROUGH THE PROCESS WITH THE OLD FORM.

>> CORRECT.

>> TODAY WE CAN SAY YES, WE APPROVE THE APPLICATION FOR THIS PERMANENT ART PLACEMENT.

>> YES, YOU CAN.

>> CORRECT.

>> I WOULD MAKE THE MOTION.

>> YOU ALREADY DID.

>> WE VOTED.

>> WHAT WE JUST VOTED ON IS WHERE TO PUT THE DARN THING AND WHAT WE NEED TO DO IS VOTE TO APPROVE IT.

>> WE ALREADY DID THAT AT ANOTHER TIME, CORRECT?

>> NO, I DON'T THINK WE DID. WE HAD THEM FILL IT OUT.

WE SUBMITTED IT TO SCOTT BACK IN JUNE AND IT'S TAKING THIS LONG TO MOVE IT FORWARD.

THE BOARD HAS NEVER SAID WE WANT TO REDO THE STATUE OR WHATEVER THIS APPLICATION ALLOWS US TO DO.

IT'S REALLY A TECHNICALITY, BUT IF YOU WANT TO VOTE ON IT.

>> I DO.

>> THE APPLICATION WAS IN JUNE.

>> YEAH.

>> WE NEVER APPROVED THAT.

>> JASON, CAN YOU RESTATE THE MOTION?

>> THAT WE JUST VOTED ON?

>> YES, PLEASE.

>> ACCEPT THE RECENT LOCATION FOR THE UPDATED PYP.

>> IT WAS JUST THE LOCATION?

>> YEAH.

>> WELL, YES. [OVERLAPPING] I ASSUMED THAT THE MOTION ACCEPTED THE ART AND THE LOCATION.

YES, YOU HAVE NOT ACCEPTED THE ART.

>> NO PROBLEM.

>> I MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE THE APPLICATION FOR THE PERMANENT ART INSTALLATION OF THE UPDATED AND MUCH IMPROVED PYP. [OVERLAPPING]

>> I'LL SECOND.

>> WE GOT A MOTION FROM PENNY AND WE GOT A SECOND FROM FRAN?

>> YES.

>> ALL IN FAVOR OF ACCEPTING THE APPLICATION AS SUBMITTED IN YOUR DOCUMENTS.

>> HOW MANY?

>> THAT'S WHAT WE'RE VOTING ON.

WE DON'T HAVE TO DO IT BY NAME.

I THINK WE CAN JUST DO IT ON A VOTE.

WHAT DO YOU WANT, BY NAME?

>> I WOULD DO IT BY NAME. [OVERLAPPING]

>> THANK YOU, JASON.

>> MEMBER TEMPLETON?

>> YES.

>> MEMBER SHEA?

>> YES.

>> MEMBER BAKER-HINTON?

>> YES.

>> [INAUDIBLE].

>> YES.

>> [INAUDIBLE]?

>> YES.

>> MEMBER FREEMAN?

>> YES.

>> MEMBER BEAN?

>> YES.

>> MEMBER WILD?

>> YES.

>> MEMBER WELLS?

>> YES.

>> THAT PASSED.

>> PERFECT.

>> THANK YOU.

>> THANKS, PENNY.

>> WE'VE GOT A COUPLE OF UPDATES THAT WE'D LIKE TO TALK ABOUT JUST FOR YOUR INFORMATION.

[6.2 Strategic Planning Committee Update]

HERE'S THE PLAN ON THE STRATEGIC THROUGH YOUR DOCUMENT.

WE'RE GOING TO BRING THAT TO YOU BY THE NOVEMBER BOARD MEETING SO THAT YOU'LL GET IT AHEAD OF TIME SO WE CAN DISCUSS IT.

THEN WE'D LIKE TO HAVE IT ON THE AGENDA FOR EITHER EXTENDED CONVERSATION OR YOU WANT TO PUT IT TO THE DECEMBER TO VOTE ON IT.

I THINK, MY MIND, IT MAKES SENSE FOR THE NEW YEAR TO BEGIN WITH A NEW PLAN THAT YOU ALL APPROVE OF.

THIS GIVES YOU PLENTY OF OPPORTUNITY IN THE MONTH OF NOVEMBER TO ADD YOUR PARTS TO IT, TO DISCUSS THE ELEMENTS THAT ARE IN IT, AND TO REVIEW THE DIRECTION THAT IT'S TAKING THE BOARD IN THE NEXT THREE YEARS.

THAT'S THE PLAN.

FOR STRATEGIC GOALS, WE TALKED ABOUT THIS LAST TIME, ITS ABILITY TO SUSTAIN THE ORGANIZATION.

I LOOKED AT THE SEPTEMBER BALANCE REVENUE FROM OUR BANK ACCOUNT.

[00:40:02]

TWO YEARS AGO, IT WAS 18, 19,000 AND IT'S NOW 13,500.

THE WHOLE CONVERSATION ABOUT DONATIONS AND MONEY AND ALL OF THAT, BEING SOLVENT IS REALLY COMING TO FRUITION.

THAT'S PART 1.

PART 2 IS RELEVANCE.

THE COMMITTEE ASK ITSELF, IF WE WEREN'T HERE, WOULD IT ACTUALLY MATTER? SO ESTABLISHING RELEVANCE IN THIS PLAN IS IMPORTANT.

RELEVANCE ALSO BRINGS YOU THE NEW VISION OF ARE WE COUNTY-WIDE RELEVANT, OR ARE WE JUST RELEVANT AMONG THE ORGANIZATIONS THAT ARE HERE NOW? THE THIRD THING IS IMPACT.

IF WE'RE GOING TO DO SOMETHING, DOES IT REALLY MATTER TO EVERYBODY? IS IT AN EVENT THAT ACTUALLY HAS SOME IMPACT TO IT? LIKE IT NOT TO JUST BE A BOARD THAT JUST SITS AROUND AND DECIDES THINGS ARE GOING TO HAPPEN.

THEY HAPPEN, BUT THERE'S NOT A LOT OF IMPACT.

NOBODY REALLY GETS ANY BANG FOR THE BUCK IN THEIR OPINION.

THE LAST THING IS AWARENESS.

THOSE ARE THE FOUR STRATEGIC POTS THAT WE'RE GOING TO PRESENT TO YOU BY THE END OF OCTOBER, BEGINNING OF NOVEMBER, SO YOU HAVE IT FOR AT LEAST A MONTH AND THEN WE'LL TRY TO BRING IT TO AN AGENDA ITEM IN DECEMBER.

>> I WOULD LIKE TO, IF I MAY, MAKE A SUGGESTION AND ADD TO YOUR PLAN ABOUT THE WHOLE OBJECT OF ARTS AND CULTURE IS TO GET SOMEBODY TO PRESENT TO US SOME ARTS AND CULTURE TO BE DISPLAYED IN THE CITY, WOULD BE WILDLIFE, IT MIGHT BE HERE, WHEREVER IT MAY BE, THE BEACHES, WHATEVER.

MY THOUGHT IS, IS ANYONE TRYING TO RESEARCH THE OTHER LOCATIONS LIKE JACKSONVILLE, DUVALL, AND OTHER AREAS AROUND US ON WHERE THEY ARE GETTING THEIR ART FROM.

DO THEY, ON A MONTHLY BASIS, SIX MONTHS BASIS, WHATEVER, CONTACT THE ARTISTS IN THE COMMUNITY TO FIND OUT WHAT THEY MIGHT BE WORKING ON? WE DON'T HAVE ANY ART TO DISPLAY, AND WE'RE NOT REALLY NO ONE IS WORKING ON FINDING OUT WHERE ALL THE ARTISTS COMING FROM.

THE OTHER PART IS, I KNOW THE TOURIST DEVELOPMENT COMMITTEE ORGANIZATION.

THEY ARE TRYING TO BRING DIFFERENT ARTS TO OUR CITY FOR TOURIST ATTRACTIONS, AND THAT'S WHAT THE ART IS ACTUALLY.

MAYBE A STRATEGIC PLAN THAT COULD BE ALSO ONE OF THE GOALS AS WELL.

I KNOW YOU'VE BEEN RESEARCHING JACKSONVILLE AND WHAT THEIR PROGRAM IS.

BUT WHERE'S HER ART COMING FROM NOW? CAN WE GO OUT AND [OVERLAPPING]

>> YEAH. THANK YOU FOR THAT.

PUBLIC ART IS A FOCUS BECAUSE IT'S ONE OF THE PARTS OF OUR MISSION TO MAKE SURE WE TAKE CARE OF THAT.

THERE'S LOTS OF SOURCES FOR PUBLIC ART.

YOU CAN LOOK AT THE NEW JAGUAR STADIUM THAT'S BEING PLANNED, AND WHEN YOU'VE GOT A CITY AND THE STATE, AND A COUPLE OF MILLION DOLLARS, YOU CAN ASK ANYBODY TO DESIGN ANYTHING, EVEN IF THEY COME FROM HONG KONG.

WE ON THE OTHER HAND, LOOK AT IT AS THE PROJECTS THAT ARE AVAILABLE TO US.

THERE IS A DIRECTORY OF ARTISTS THAT I HAVE FROM DEVELOPED COUNTY, AND THEY'VE BEEN REALLY GENEROUS IN THE CONVERSATIONS ABOUT WHO DOES WHAT, HOW TO FIND THEM, HERE'S THE THING.

I'M GOING TO REFERENCE SOME OF THESE THINGS IN THE ART LITERS.

NOTICE ALSO THAT WE SHOULD BE RECIPIENT.

ALL THESE DIFFERENT THINGS THAT WE'RE ULTIMATELY GOING TO NEED FOR THE ARTS COMMUNITY AND BUILDING, BUILDING RESUMES AND HAVING A DATABASE.

IT'S ALL IMPORTANT, SO THANK YOU FOR THAT.

I THINK WE HAVE IT IN THE PLAN.

HOPEFULLY YOU SEE THAT.

BUT MOST IMPORTANT OF THIS CONVERSATION IS YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE THIS DOCUMENT AND THAT'S WHAT WE WANT TO HEAR FROM YOU ALL, TO MAKE SURE YOU'RE COMFORTABLE WITH THE DIRECTION THAT WE'RE HEADING, ESPECIALLY WHEN THERE'LL BE SOME CHANGES WITH THE PEOPLE ON THE BOARD GOING FORWARD.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ABOUT THE STRATEGIC PLAN? IT'S A THREE-YEAR PLAN, IT SHOULD BE REVIEWED EVERY YEAR.

IT'S NOT WRITTEN IN STONE FOR THREE YEARS.

NEXT YEAR, YOU MIGHT HAVE A CONVERSATION THAT SAYS, YOU NEED TO ADD THIS TO IT.

THIS IS NOT RELEVANT.

[00:45:01]

IT'S KIND OF A LIVING DOCUMENT.

WE EXPECT YOU TO HAVE HANDS-ON WITH IT ALL THE TIME.

GOOD. ANYTHING ELSE? GREAT. THANK YOU.

I HAD SOME NOTES THAT I HANDED OUT TO YOU ON THE ARTS LEADERS FOR MEETING THAT WE HAD.

[6.3 Arts Leaders Forum Report]

I THOUGHT IT WAS A GOOD MEETING.

WE HAD A COUPLE OF OUR MEMBERS WERE ABLE TO MAKE IT.

WE HAVE 13 FROM ARTS LEADERS THERE AS WELL AS THE COUNTY COMMISSIONER, LISA, AND [INAUDIBLE] FROM THE CBD AND MAIN STREET.

JASON GAVE ME SOME NOTES.

I HANDED THEM OUT. YOU ALL GOT THAT.

A COUPLE OF HIGH POINTS, AND THEN ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MAY HAVE, I'D BE HAPPY TO LOOK AT THAT.

I THINK WHAT HAPPENED IN THE FEBRUARY MEETING WAS WHEN WE HAD A COUPLE OF MONTHS AGO, WAS THE LACK OF VENUE SPACE, THE ABILITY TO GET VOLUNTEERS BUILDING BETTER BOARDS, AND GETTING THE TEENAGE YOUTH INVOLVEMENT.

THAT WAS KIND OF THE TAKEAWAY FROM FEBRUARY.

WHEN YOU LOOK AT THIS ONE HERE, WE ALSO LOOKED AT THE BLUE FIRE SURVEY THAT SOME OF YOU MAY HAVE TAKEN WHEN THAT WAS DONE IN THE SPRING AROUND MARCH OR APRIL.

HERE AGAIN, THE ISSUE WAS FOR A VENUE WELL-EQUIPPED, QUALITY, SOUND AND LIGHTING, COMFORTABLE SEATING, AND A CAPACITY THAT IS GREATER THAN WHAT'S CURRENTLY AVAILABLE.

I THINK THE ORGANIZATION ARE REITERATING SOME OF THE SAME ISSUES AND STRESS POINTS THAT THEY'RE HAVING AS WELL.

IN THIS CONVERSATION, THEY TALKED ABOUT THE IDEA OF HAVING THE TEAMS INVOLVED THAT KIND OF REINFORCE THAT IDEA OF HAVING THEM COME FREE ON A GIVEN NIGHT IF LONG AS THEY WERE ACCOMPANIED BY AN ADULT, SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

THE USE OF HIGH-SCHOOL VENUES WAS DISCUSSED.

THE IDEA SEEMED TO CARRY SERIOUS CONSIDERATION, THAT SOME ORGANIZATIONS SAID, YOU'VE GOT THESE GREAT VENUES, YOU'VE GOT A SHRIMP FAST, YOU'VE GOT A TICKET, AND SO YOU'VE GOT A CAR SHOW IN THE SPRING.

WHY CAN SOME OF THESE ORGANIZATIONS PIGGYBACK ONTO THAT EITHER AT THE END OF THE EVENT USING THE STRUCTURES THAT ARE REPLACED WITH ALL THE COST AND MONEY THAT GOES INTO THAT TO TRY TO BRING THE ART OUT INTO THE PUBLIC AGAIN, ANOTHER OPPORTUNITY? BUT THE THINGS THAT REALLY CAME FORWARD FOR ME WERE THE THINGS THAT THEY WERE ASKING ABOUT, IN THE SENSE OF THE THINGS THAT YOU JUST TALKED ABOUT.

THE IDEAS OF A DATABASE FOR VOLUNTEERS.

WE KNOW THAT THERE'S A VOLUNTEER EVENT THAT THE CHAMBER OF COMMERCE HOLDS BECAUSE THEY HAVE THE SAME ISSUE.

THERE'S A DATABASE THAT PEOPLE WERE LOOKING FOR HOW TO BUILD A BETTER BOARD, AND WE SUGGESTED, WOULD YOU LIKE US ON OUR SIDE TO CONDUCT A WORKSHOP ON TRAINING VOLUNTEERS, FINDING BOARD MEMBERS AND HOW TO TRAIN THE BOARD.

SOME OF THOSE THINGS WERE SUGGESTED.

THERE'S ALSO STATED SPONSORSHIPS ARE ALSO A PROBLEM.

THEY ASKED US WHY CAN'T YOU PUT TOGETHER ALL THE GRANT OPPORTUNITIES THAT EXIST JUST TO MAKE SURE WE'RE NOT MISSING ANYTHING.

THERE ARE QUITE A FEW GRANT OPPORTUNITIES AVAILABLE FROM THE NATIONAL SCALE, NATIONALLY, FROM THE STATE, FROM THE COUNTY, FROM NORTHEAST FLORIDA, FROM THE CVP, THERE'S FOUNDATIONS LIKE RANIER THAT ALSO HAVE GRANT, SO GRANT DATABASE WAS ALSO RECOMMENDED THAT WE TRIED TO TAKE A LOOK AT.

THE GROUP SEEM TO FEEL THAT ANC SHOULD BE A RESOURCE FOR COMPILING OPTIONS FOR VENUES.

THEY SAID, WHEN HAVE TO GET A BIGGER AUDIENCE, WHAT'S OUT THERE THAT WE COULD POSSIBLY USE? IT PUSHED A LOT OF STUFF IN OUR DIRECTION, AND NEXT YEAR WE MIGHT LOOK AT HOW WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO HELP IN SOME OF THAT.

PAGE 4 FROM, WHERE IS SHE FROM [OVERLAPPING] THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

SHE RECOMMEND THAT THEY USE HUBSPOT TO BUILD THIS FOR LOOKING FOR VOLUNTEERS.

SHE ALSO HAD A LOT OF SUGGESTIONS ABOUT VOLUNTEER FAIRS.

SHE ALSO RECOMMENDED THAT IF VENUE BECOMES SOMETHING THAT'S REALLY IMPORTANT AND THAT AT SOME POINT WE'RE ABLE TO SUCCESSFULLY ACCEPT DONATIONS TO MOVE FORWARD, THAT THERE SHOULD BE SOME KIND OF A GALA EVENT THAT WE COULD PUT

[00:50:01]

ON DOWN THE ROAD TO JUMPSTART THE IDEA THAT THERE'S A VENUE THAT MIGHT BE IN THE WORKS SOMEPLACE IN THE COUNTY.

THAT'S THE HIGHLIGHTS YOU'VE GOT ALL THAT.

THE JOHN MARTIN FROM THE COUNTY COMMISSION, TALKED ABOUT THE REFERENDUM COMING FORWARD THAT ACCEPTS BED TAX THROUGHOUT THE COUNTY.

RIGHT NOW, THE BED TEXTS THAT THE TOURIST BOARD USES TO DO THEIR EVENTS COMES STRICTLY FROM THE AMELIA ISLAND HOTELS.

HOWEVER, WERE THAT TO OPEN UP TO THE WHOLE COUNTY, THAT WOULD GENERATE REVENUE THAT COULD BE USED ALL AROUND THE COUNTY, AND THAT WOULD BE A BIG OPPORTUNITY.

THE COUNTY COMMISSION HAVE SET ASIDE $250,000 FOR THE TOURIST BOARD TO MANAGE AN EVENTS, BIG ENOUGH EVENTS, SO THAT REFERENDUM GET SOME CLARITY AND HOPEFULLY THE PEOPLE CAN ONLY VOTE ON IT IN THE AREA WHERE THEY CALL THE MAINLAND, WHICH IS BASICALLY FROM [INAUDIBLE].

THAT'S ON THE AGENDA FOR THE COUNTY.

THE IDEA OF A LARGE PERFORMANCE VENUE WAS REITERATED, AND THE IDEA OF A FUNDRAISE, IT WAS MENTIONED IN THAT, YOU JUST SAID THAT.

THE LAST PIECE I HAVE IS CVP MENTIONED THE IDEA THAT IN THE CELEBRATION FOR 200TH ANNIVERSARY, THEY'RE LOOKING AT SOME IDEA FOR A MURAL FESTIVAL.

I THINK SOME OF YOU MIGHT HAVE HEARD ABOUT THAT.

THERE'S SOME WORK SHE HAS TO DO ON THAT BECAUSE THE PARTNER THAT'S GOING TO BE PART OF THAT NEEDS A LEGAL ENTITY TO JOIN IN AGREEMENTS, AND SO THAT BECOMES AN ISSUE ON WHO'S GOING TO BE THE SIGNER.

I DON'T THINK WE AS A BOARD CAN DO THAT.

SHE'S WORKING THROUGH THAT, BUT SHE WILL BE BACK TO TALK ABOUT THAT FESTIVAL IDEA.

JUST SO YOU KNOW, I FOLLOWED UP WITH THE NASSAU COUNTY FAIR, WHICH IS OPENING ON THE 12TH OF OCTOBER, AND THEY ARE VERY ANXIOUS TO MOVE FORWARD ON HAVING THE ARTS COMMUNITY AND ALL THESE ORGANIZATIONS PARTICIPATE.

TOO LATE FOR THIS YEAR SINCE IT'S NEXT WEEK, BUT IN 2024 AND THEY'RE GOING TO OPEN UP AN ARTS PAVILION UP THERE COVERED TO ALLOW FOR ARTISTS TO DO THEIR WORK, TO SHOW THEIR WORK, TO HAVE DEMONSTRATIONS, AND TO HAVE PERFORMANCE VENUE.

I WAS REALLY PLEASED AT HOW THEIR MIND IS MOVING IN THAT DIRECTION.

IN ADDITION TO THAT, IN THE 3-5 YEAR PLAN THAT THEY HAVE, THEY ARE BUILDING AN ARENA SO THEY CAN DO LARGE-SCALE MUSICAL RODEO TO SOME EXTENT, EVENTS AND THAT MIGHT BE ANOTHER VENUE THAT WE COULD LOOK FORWARD TO GOING FORWARD.

THEY GAVE ME PASSES TO THE FAIR, WHICH I HAVE FOR YOU ALL AND I'LL GIVE THEM TO YOU ON OUR WAY OUT, TWO FOR EVERYBODY.

IT STARTS ON THE 12TH. WHEN DOES IT ENDS?

>> THURSDAY.

>> COME ON. TELL ME ABOUT THIS,12TH - 22ND.

IT'S OPEN LATER IN THE DAYS DURING THE WEEK, BUT IT'S OPEN ON THE WEEKENDS ON 9:00-9:00. LET'S SEE.

ANY QUESTIONS ON THE ARTS LEADERS FORUM? I KNOW A COUPLE OF YOU WERE THERE AND WAS KIND ENOUGH IN THE IDEA OF WANTING TO GET TOGETHER TO TRAIN BOARD MEMBERS AND VOLUNTEERS TO OFFER PERHAPS THE CONFERENCE ROOM AT THE LIBRARY, WHICH I THINK WOULD BE A GREAT WAY TO HAVE A SMALL-SCALE MEETING.

WE'LL SEE HOW WE MOVE FORWARD WITH THE ARTS LEADERS AND THE TRAINING IDEA WITH THE BOARD FOR NEXT YEAR.

CATHERINE HAS ANY OTHER STAFF COMMENTS THAT WE HAVEN'T COVERED?

[7. STAFF COMMENTS]

>> NO.

>> GOOD. WE'VE GOT THAT DONE.

YOU ALL KNOW THAT WE HAVE A COUPLE OF ITEMS WE WANT TO BRING BACK BEFORE THE YEAR ENDS

[8. BOARD MEMBER COMMENTS]

AND WE HAVE LITTLE IDEA ABOUT THE BOARD STRUCTURE CONVERSATION WE STARTED.

I'M SURE WE'LL SEE THAT AGAIN NEXT MONTH.

I WANTED TO BRING UP TO YOU ALL THAT ACCORDING TO OUR NEW GRANTS, APPLICATIONS WOULD'VE ACCEPTED FROM THE OCTOBER 15TH TO NOVEMBER 15TH FOR GRANTS FOR SENIOR PROGRAMMING, WHICH IS RIGHT AROUND THE CORNER.

NOW, I DIDN'T THINK WE NEEDED TO SPEND MONEY ADVERTISING IT.

[00:55:06]

I THOUGHT WE COULD AS ORGANIZATIONS THAT ARE HERE RIGHT NOW, YOU ALL KNOW ABOUT THE GRANT APPLICATIONS.

THE NEW APPLICATIONS ARE ONLINE.

THE ONES THAT WE COMBINED.

THE SENIOR AND THE YOUTHS YOU JUST CHECK THE ONE YEAR APPLYING FOR.

YOU HAVE TO APPLY IN THE WINDOW THAT'S THERE.

KNOWING OUR FINANCIAL SITUATION, I DIDN'T THINK WE SHOULD GET ON THE ROOFTOPS AND YELL ABOUT THE MONEY WE WANT TO GIVE AWAY.

WE CERTAINLY WANT TO DO IT BUT I DIDN'T THINK WE SHOULD PUT MONEY TO ADVERTISING IN THE NEWSPAPER UNLESS YOU DISAGREE.

BUT I'M GOING TO CREATE A LITTLE BLURB THAT EITHER JASON OR THE STAFF CAN SEND OUT TO THE ORGANIZATIONS TO MAKE SURE THEY KNOW AND REMIND THEM THAT THIS APPLICATION APPLIES SPECIFICALLY TO PROGRAMMING THAT ENTERTAINS THE SENIOR AUDIENCE BETWEEN NOW AND NOVEMBER 15TH.

>> WHAT'S THE YOUTH'S DATES?

>> I'M SORRY?

>> WHAT'S THE YOUTH'S GRANT DATES?

>> YOUTH'S GRANT DATE RUNS RIGHT AT THE END OF THIS ONE, NOVEMBER 15TH TO DECEMBER 15TH.

[NOISE] THIS IS WHY THEY SHOULD WANT TO GO BACK TO THAT.

WE HADN'T TALKED ABOUT THAT.

I WANTED TO MAKE SURE I BROUGHT IT TO YOUR ATTENTION.

>> CAN IT BE COMBINED?

>> YOU CAN DO ONE AN YOU CAN APPLY FOR THE NEXT ONE.

YOU CAN'T DO TWO AT THE SAME TIME.

>> NO, I MEAN CAN GRANT BEFORE.

[INAUDIBLE].

>> EACH ONE IN ITS WINDOW.

>> I JUST HAD IDEA FORMS.

>> NOT A BAD IDEA.

>> I ALSO WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT SOME OF YOU WHO HAVE HAD SOME DIFFICULTY IN MAKING SOME MEETINGS BASED ON WORK AND OTHER ISSUES ARE GETTING THE EMAILS.

SOME OF YOU HAVE SAID, HEY, I NEVER GOT AN EMAIL OR THE EMAIL DIDN'T COME THROUGH.

>> WE [INAUDIBLE].

>> WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT, ARE YOU ALL GETTING EMAILS NOW?

>> I AM.

>> I DIDN'T GET ONE.

>> YOU DIDN'T GET ONE.

>> I WOULD LIKE TO FORMALLY APOLOGIZE FOR MY ABSENCE THIS PAST SEPTEMBER.

I DID NOT RECEIVE ANY EMAIL NOTIFICATIONS SINCE THE TRANSITION OF KATIE AND JASON, WHICH THANK YOU, JASON.

HE SORTED ME OUT.

I'M NOW RECEIVING EMAILS.

I AM VERY SORRY.

I WANTED TO SINCERELY APOLOGIZE.

UNFORTUNATELY, I HAD TRAVEL PLANS THAT WERE SET OVER THE SUMMER WAY PRIOR TO COMMITTING TO THIS GROUP.

ONCE I WAS APPROACHED IN THE SPRING, I OF COURSE, RESPECT THE POLICY.

MY MISTAKE I HAD ASSUMED THAT THE MEETING WAS SEPTEMBER 11TH BECAUSE WE DID CHANGE THE JUNE MEETING TO THE SECOND MONDAY AS WELL AS THE JULY 4TH HOLIDAY SECOND MONDAY.

I WAS VERY CONFIDENT THAT THAT MEETING WAS GOING TO BE ON SEPTEMBER THE 11TH.

ANYWAY, THEN I DID A DEEP DIVE INTO MY JUNK MAIL, DISCOVERED THAT JASON'S EMAILS CERTAINLY WERE THERE AND I'D HOPED THAT HE HAD FORWARDED MY CLARIFICATION TO YOU ALL.

I HOPE I DID NOT OFFEND OR CAUSE ANY ISSUE WITH MY NOT BEING HERE, BUT I DO APOLOGIZE. THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU.

>> NICE TO HAVE YOU HERE NOW.

>> GOOD TO BE HERE.

>> EVERYBODY SEEMS TO BE OKAY WITH EMAILS?

>> I WAS GETTING EMAILS AND THEN I STOPPED GETTING THEM.

I DIDN'T GET AN EMAIL FOR TODAY, SO I'LL JUST FOLLOW UP WITH YOU AND MAKE SURE I FIGURE IT OUT. PERFECT.

>> IS IT BECAUSE WE WENT FROM KAITLYN TO JASON AND THE SERVERS ARE DIFFERENT?

>> WELL, I'VE ALSO CHANGED MY EMAIL. I'LL CHECK WITH YOU.

>> THIS A SOLELY TO MAKE SURE NOT TO EMBARRASS ANYBODY, JUST TO MAKE SURE A, WE NEED YOU, BUT B, TO MAKE SURE YOU GET AN EMAIL.

>> I SEND A TEST EMAIL AFTER OUR MEETING LAST MONTH AND APPARENTLY DIDN'T GET IT SO I DON'T KNOW WHY [OVERLAPPING].

>> [INAUDIBLE]. [LAUGHTER]

>> APPARENTLY.

>> MY COMPUTER THINKS IT KNOWS MORE THAN ME SOMETIMES.

>> THAT'S FOR SURE. THANKS FOR THAT.

>> YOU TOO.

>> WHO SITS ON THE MAIN STREET 200 CITY CELEBRATION HAS A COUPLE OF COMMENTS FROM THE LAST MEETING?

>> SURE.

ACCORDING TO LITA, WHO'S HERE TODAY, EVERYTHING IS REALLY MOVING FORWARD VERY WELL.

JUST TOOK ME A WHILE TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO DO IT, BUT SHE'S PRINTED OUT A WONDERFUL SPREADSHEET FOR ALL OF US ON THE COMMITTEE TALKING ABOUT ALL THE VENUES THAT THEY REACHED OUT TO, TO SEE HOW MANY PEOPLE WERE INTERESTED IN PARTICIPATING.

HER GOAL OR THE GOAL OF THE COMMITTEE FOR THE 200TH [BACKGROUND] BICENTENNIAL IS TO HAVE

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AT LEAST TWO ORGANIZATIONS RUN GROUPS OR PARTICIPATE THROUGH THE NEXT YEAR, 2024, AND HAVE LOGOS THAT MEET THEIR ORGANIZATION, AS WELL AS WHAT THEY ARE DOING, AND THEN WE'LL BE INVOLVED IN IT TOO.

SHE HAS ABOUT SEVEN PEOPLE THAT HAVE ALREADY COMMITTED.

ONE OF THE THINGS, FOR INSTANCE, THE LIBRARY IS PLANNING ON DOING IS HAVING A QUILT EXHIBIT THAT'LL BE AT THE LIBRARY.

IT'S PROBABLY BETTER IF I JUST GIVE YOU AN EXAMPLE.

QUILT EXHIBIT AT THE LIBRARY WHERE THE QUILTS ARE REFLECTING OR SOME WAY TO SOMETHING HISTORICAL ABOUT THE EIGHT FLAGS OF FERNANDINA.

THAT EXHIBIT WILL BE PRESENTED AT THE LIBRARY.

HOPEFULLY, IT'LL BE A STRONG PRESENTATION.

WE WILL AT THAT TIME ALSO TRY TO PAIR IT WITH MAYBE SOME YOUTH ACTIVITIES THAT RELATE TO EIGHT FLAGS, OR SO MANY THINGS THAT WE COULD DO FOR THE YOUTH LIBRARIAN.

WHETHER THE KIDS MAKE FLAGS THAT GO ALONG WITH THE EIGHT OWNERS, WE COULD DO A LOT OF DIFFERENT KINDS OF EVENTS.

WHAT HAPPENS IS THAT 200 LOGO GOES ON THE LIBRARY'S ADVERTISEMENT, AND THEN THE LIBRARY'S ADVERTISEMENTS OR PUBLICITY GOES ON THE 200 ANNIVERSARY BICENTENNIAL.

THE ORGANIZATION DOESN'T HAVE THE FUNDING, THEY ARE JUST TRYING TO ORGANIZE IT AND GETTING EVERYONE TO PARTICIPATE.

THE CULMINATION OF THAT IS GOING TO BE JANUARY 1ST, 2025.

WAS THIS ALREADY STATED, I DON T KNOW.

THEY ARE DOING A BIG, HUGE MEAL ON [OVERLAPPING]

>> IT'S A GALA EVENT.

>> A BIG GALA EVENT.

THEY ARE GOING TO TRY TO HAVE AS MANY RESTAURANTS AND VENDORS AS POSSIBLE PARTICIPATING ON JANUARY 1ST ON CENTER STREET, AND THAT WILL BE THE COMBINATION OF THE WHOLE YEAR OF 2024.

THE OTHER BIG EVENT IS THE [INAUDIBLE] AND WAS SUPPOSED TO BE HERE TODAY.

THE WOMAN WAS GOING TO TALK ABOUT THE MURALS.

THEY ARE LOOKING TO CREATE MURALS ON 8TH AVENUE.

THERE IS A WONDERFUL GROUP THAT WILL COME IN AND DESIGN THE MURALS, PAINT THEM AND THEY'D BE UP FOR 10 YEARS.

THERE ARE LOTS OF ISSUES OF CONCERN IN TERMS OF THE ORGANIZATIONS, THE LEGALITY, WHO MAINTAINS THEM SO IT HASN'T BEEN WORKED OUT YET, BUT IT'S JUST ONE OF THE BIGGER EVENTS THAT PEOPLE ARE WORKING ON.

>> HAS THE QUESTION BEEN UNANSWERED ABOUT WHETHER THAT'S TEMPORARY ART OR NOT?

>> THE MURAL, IT'S PERMANENT.

[OVERLAPPING]

>> WELL, IT'S PERMANENT FOR 10 YEARS. THAT'S IT.

>> JUST 10 YEARS?

>> TEN YEARS PERMANENCE.

>> THAT'S VERY [INAUDIBLE].

>> THE PAINT LASTS FOR 10 YEARS, BUT THEY STILL NEED TO BE MAINTAINED.

[OVERLAPPING]

>> THE MURAL WILL LAST FOR 10 YEARS?

>> AND HAS TO BE MAINTAINED. SOMEBODY HAS GOT TO TOUCH IT UP.

>> IF I COULD JUST ON THAT.

>> PLEASE.

>> WE HAD OUR VERY FIRST MEETING ABOUT THE MURAL FESTIVAL THIS MORNING.

IT'S GOING TO BE ON THE AGENDA FOR YOU FOR NOVEMBER, SO WE'LL HAVE EVERYTHING FIGURED OUT.

WELL, MOST OF IT, I WOULD HOPE.

YOU'LL SEE A PRESENTATION WITH MYSELF, MS. DUGGAR AND ANYONE ELSE WHO IS INVOLVED IN THAT WHOLE THING.

PROBABLY OUR CITY ATTORNEY WILL BE HERE FOR THAT DISCUSSION TOO. WE'LL SEE IF SHE CAN MAKE IT.

>> THANK YOU, GREAT.

>> BUT THAT'S JUST A FEW OF THE THINGS.

IT'S NOT TO CREATE EVENTS THAT ARE SOLELY FOR THE BICENTENNIAL, BUT IT'S EVENTS THAT ARE GOING ON THROUGH THE NEXT 12 MONTHS STARTING 2024, TO MAKE SOME RELATIONSHIP, SOME WAY TO CONNECT WITH THE 200 BICENTENNIAL.

THE OTHER THING THAT'S INTERESTING IS THAT, AND I FORGET, IS THIS CALLAHAN OR THERE IS ANOTHER COMMUNITY THAT'S ALSO HAVING A 200TH ANNIVERSARY AT THE SAME TIME, SO IT'S SOMETHING THAT WILL BE GOING CONCURRENTLY.

>> BOTH CITIES. [OVERLAPPING]

>> BOTH CITIES ARE HAVING 200TH ANNIVERSARY, BUT OURS IS MORE IMPORTANT BECAUSE WE HAVE A FLAG, [LAUGHTER] AND WE HAVE A REALLY GOOD HISTORY.

>> RIGHT.

>> BUT THAT WAS A JOKE.

THAT WAS JUST TO ADD A LITTLE LIGHTNESS TO THE GROOM BECAUSE I THOUGHT WE NEEDED [LAUGHTER] HUMOR.

BUT ANYWAY, IT SEEMS TO BE A VERY COMMITTED GROUP.

THERE'S A LOT OF ENERGY.

THERE ARE A LOT OF YOUNG PEOPLE ON IT, NEW PEOPLE EACH TIME, AND WE'LL JUST SEE HOW IT MOVES FORWARD IN HOW PEOPLE EMBRACE IT.

I DO THINK A LOT HAS TO DO WITH HOW IT'S PRESENTED TO EVERYONE.

IF IT'S PRESENTED WITH GREAT ENERGY AND GREAT COMMITMENT,

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THEN THE ORGANIZATIONS ARE AT THAT MUCH MORE LIKELY TO GO, OH, SURE WE'LL BE ON THIS, WE'LL MAKE THIS HAPPEN. THAT'S IT.

>> THANK YOU. APPRECIATE IT.

ANY QUESTIONS ON THE 200S CELEBRATION? BASICALLY, THE GOAL IS TO TRY TO HAVE TWO EVENTS EVERY MONTH THROUGH 2024.

YOU HAVE A GREAT OPPORTUNITY, I THINK JOHN IS PRETTY TUNED UP TO IT BECAUSE YOU HAVE THAT NICE COURTYARD, YOU COULD DO AN EVENT.

ANYWAY, THAT'S WHAT THAT'S ABOUT.

I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING ELSE ON MY LIST.

ANYBODY HAVE ANY OTHER BOARD PEOPLE [OVERLAPPING].

>> I DO.

>> YES, PLEASE.

>> I WANT TO GO BACK TO OUR MEETINGS WHEN THEY'RE ON HOLIDAYS.

CAN WE SET A POLICY WHERE IT WOULD EITHER BE THE NEXT DAY OR IT WOULD BE THE NEXT MONDAY BECAUSE THAT WOULD CERTAINLY HELP ME BECAUSE I APOLOGIZE AS WELL FOR MY ABSENCES?

>> SURE. I THINK WE USUALLY TALK ABOUT IT THE MONTH BEFORE IT HAPPENS, BUT YOU'RE LOOKING FOR [OVERLAPPING]

>> IT WOULD BE GREAT IF IT CAN BE SET THAT WAY.

I HAVE A WHOLE MONTH TO TELL MY EMPLOYER THAT.

>> DID YOU TYPICALLY DO THE DAY AFTER THE HOLIDAY OR THE NEXT WEEK?

>> WE WOULD LIKE TO HAVE A POLICY TOO BUT IT DEPENDS ON WHO'S USING THE ROOM AND WHAT'S GOING ON, AND EVERY MONTH IT CHANGES.

IF IT'S BUDGET SEASON, THERE'S A LOT OF EXTRA MEETINGS AND THINGS.

WHAT WE COULD DO IS TWO MEETINGS BEFORE A HOLIDAY.

WE CAN TALK ABOUT IT, SO WE CAN TALK ABOUT IT LIKE FOR LIKE JULY 4TH, WE'LL TALK ABOUT IT IN MAY AND WE'LL TALK ABOUT IT AGAIN IN JUNE, SO EVERYONE IS ON THE SAME PAGE. [OVERLAPPING]

>> THAT WOULD BE VERY HELPFUL, THANK YOU.

>> THIS IS WHEN THE JULY DATE IS GOING TO BE, WE CAN DO THAT.

THEN YOU GET AMPLE NOTICE.

>> THAT'LL BE GOOD.

>> THAT WILL BE GREAT, THANK YOU.

>> WE'LL DO THAT. IS THERE ONE WE SHOULD TALK ABOUT RIGHT NOW? [LAUGHTER].

>> WHERE ARE WE?

>> DECEMBER?

>> CHRISTMAS.

>> WE'RE GOOD.

>> WE'VE GOT THANKSGIVING, THAT'S A THURSDAY YOU DON'T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT THAT.

>> SO WE'LL TALK ABOUT NEW YEAR'S AT THE NEXT MEETING?

>> YEAH. [LAUGHTER] ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU.

THAT'S EVERYTHING I'VE GOT.

ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANY OTHER COMMENTS? I NEED A MOTION TO ADJOURN.

>> I'LL MAKE A MOTION. [LAUGHTER]

>> MOTION.

>> THAT'S FIRST.

I NEED A SECOND.

>> I SECOND.

>> AND SECOND. THANK YOU.

[NOISE] MEETING ADJOURNED.

>> ALL RIGHT.

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.