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>> I'M CALLING THE VIRGINIA CITY BEACH TO ORDERABLE START WITH

THE BROKAW, TAKETH AWAY. >> MAYOR BEING.

>> HERE. >> VICE MAYOR STURGES.

>> HERE. >> COMMISSIONER ROSS.

>> EAR COMMISSIONER ANTUN. >> YOUR.

>> PLEASE RISE FOR THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE LED TODAY REMAIN

STANDING FOR INVOCATION. >> I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION, UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE WITH

LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. >> PLEASE REMAIN STANDING FOR THE INVOCATION BY REVEREND JUNIOR OF THE KINGDOM MINISTRIES

CHURCH. >> THANK YOU, LET US PRAY.

ETERNAL GOD OUR FATHER WE COME TODAY TO GIVE THANKS TO YOUR WONDERFUL NAME, WE THANK YOU GOD FOR OUR CITY AND ALL THE PROGRESS IN THE SUCCESSES THAT WE HAD OVER THE YEARS.

WE PRAY FOR THE SECTION TONIGHT THAT GOD YOU WOULD HAVE YOUR WAY AND GATHER WITH YOUR WISDOM, KNOWLEDGE AND UNDERSTANDING.

BLESS OUR CITY, BLESS OUR MEMBERS OF THIS BODY THAT WE

PRAY IN JESUS NAME, AMEN. >> YOU MAY BE SEATED, WERE GOING

[4.1 PRESENTATION - NASSAU HUMANE SOCIETY ]

TO JUMP IN TO THE PROCLAMATION AND PRESENTATION ITEM 4.1 THAT IS A PRESENTATION OF THE NASSAU HUMANE SOCIETY.

COME ON DOWN. >> YOU WE HAVE DEAN COMING IS A MUST FOR YEARS OLD HE IS THE STAFF FAVOR AT THE HUMANE SOCIETY. HE IS ACTIVELY IN THE CAR IN GREAT ON THE LEASH HE IS GOOD WITH CROWDS AND STRANGERS, HE WOULD DO BEST YES A HOME PET. HIS BODY LANGUAGE IS HARD TO READ FOR OTHER EATABLES. HE WOULD PROBABLY BE BEST, SMALLER CHILDREN GET A LITTLE RAMBUNCTIOUS AND POSSIBLY HURT THEM. I SPENT A LOT OF TIME WITH DEAN OUTSIDE OF THE FACILITY ON CAR RIDES IN THE BEACH, HE IS WONDERFUL I DIDN'T HAVE SIX PETS OF MY OWN.

THANK YOU FOR BEING WITH US, DEAN, LET'S SAY SOMEBODY IS

INTERESTED. >> SOMEONE COULD SEE HIM AT OUR FACILITY OVER BY THE AIRPORT AND YOU COULD CALL THE SHELTER AT

(904)321-1647. >> HOW LONG HAS DEAN BEEN WITH US HE WAS A SURRENDER BECAME WITH ANOTHER DOG AND WE BELIEVE THEY WERE READING PAIR, THE FEMALE WAS VERY DOG FRIENDLY.

>> THANK YOU SO MUCH. PLEASE SOMEONE ADOPT DEAN.

THANK YOU, SIR. >> YOU COULD AT LEAST TAKE THEM

HOME BRADLEY. >> I COULD NOT BUT SOMEBODY E

[4.2 PROCLAMATION - "HISPANIC HERITAGE MONTH]

ELSE, MOVING ONTO THE PROCLAMATION WE HAVE TO TONIGHT, COME ON DOWN WE WANT TO INVITE THE FIRST ONE MS. GAFFNEY FOREHAND IS IN THE ROOM THUS. IT'S HISPANIC HERITAGE MONTH.

PLEASE COME ON DOWN YES WELL S SIR.

IF YOU ARE HERE FOR HISPANIC WOULD LOVE TO HAVE YOU APPEAR COME ON DOWN TO THE PODIUM, WE WOULD LOVE TO HAVE YOU.

ANYBODY AT ALL? SEE THAT IT'S HISPANIC HERITAGE MONTH THIS IS BEEN WRITTEN IN ENGLISH AND SPANISH AND WE HAVE DAPHNE TRANSLATING, 30 TRANSLATED BUT SHE WILL READ THE SPANISH VERSION BECAUSE LET ME TELL YOU YOU DO NOT WANT TO READ IN SPANISH. , THE PROCLAMATION WHEREAS IN THE UNITED STATES NATURAL HISPANIC MONTH CELEBRATED FROM SEPTEMBER 16 TO OCTOBER 15, COINCIDES WITH SEVERAL LATIN AMERICAN INDEPENDENT STATES WATER MODEL, MEXICO AND CHILE

(SPEAKING IN SPANISH). >> WHEREAS HISPANIC HERITAGE MONTH WITH A RICH CULTURE AND HISPANICS ANCESTORS CAME FROM

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SPAIN, MEXICO, THE CARIBBEAN AND CENTRAL SOUTH AMERICA AND.

>> (SPEAKING IN SPANISH). >> WHEREAS FERNANDA BEACH DATES BACK TO THE 1500 AND THE CULTURE IS INDISPUTABLY OF THE VIBRANT TAPESTRY THAT MAKES FERNANDA BEACH WONDERFUL PLACE TO WORK

AND VISIT. >> (SPEAKING IN SPANISH).

>> WHEREAS THE HISTORY OF UNITED STATES HISPANICS HAVE PARTICIPATED IN SUPPORT IN DEFENSE OF THE PRINCIPLES AND IDEALS UPON WHICH THIS GREAT NATION WAS FOUNDED THIS COUNTRY'S FASTEST-GROWING POPULATION CONTINUE TO

CONTRIBUTE TO AMERICAN CULTURE. >> (SPEAKING IN SPANISH).

>> WHEREAS THIS MONTH HONORS AND IMPACT OF ALL SOCIETY PRESENTS AN OPPORTUNITY TO TAKE PRIDE IN THE ROOTS AND PROMOTE THE ROBUST

DIVERSITY THESE CULTURES OFFER. >> (SPEAKING IN SPANISH).

>> WHEREAS THE COMMUNITY AND GOVERNMENT ARE PART OF THE CULTURAL ENRICHMENT BROUGHT BY THE DIVERSITY OF OUR HISPANIC

POPULATION. >> (SPEAKING IN SPANISH).

>> OR I BRADLEY DEAN INVESTED IN ME TO HEREBY PROCLAIM THIS MONTH YES NATIONAL HISPANIC HERITAGE MONTH.

I WILL SET MY HAND ON THE CITY SEAL, THIS PIECE OF PAPER.

>> (SPEAKING IN SPANISH). >> PLEASE PUT YOUR HANDS TOGETHER. THANK YOU SO MUCH.

LET'S GET A PICTURE TOGETHER REALLY QUICK, THANK YOU SO MUCH.

>> I APPRECIATE YOU GUYS, THANK YOU SO MUCH.

YOU WANT TO STAY APPEAR THE WHOLE SKATE BOARDING COMMUNITY

CAN COME UP TODAY. >> COME ON DOWN.

WE NEED YOU. >> THIS YEAR WE HAVE HAD THE EIGHTH ANNUAL TERRY KELLY, AND THAT'S WHAT WE ARE PROCLAIMING TODAY THE SKATE JIM, THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE, LUNTZ JUMPING IN 2015 FRIENDS OF FERNANDINA BEACH SKATE PARK HOSTED THE INAUGURAL SKATE CHAMP THAT FERNANDINA BEACH SKATE PARK TO ENCOURAGE AND DEVELOP THE LAW OF SKATEBOARDING WITHIN OUR COMMUNITY, WHERE YES MR. TERRY KELLY ARE PROUD FATHER EXCITED TO WATCH HIS 10-YEAR-OLD SON FERNANDO COMPETE, TRAGICALLY YES MR. KELLY APPROACHED THE SKATE PARK HE SUFFERED A LIFE ENDING HEART ATTACK, THE FOLLOWING YEAR WITH THE PERMISSION OF MR. KELLY'S GRIEVING FAMILY, THE COMPETITION WAS RENAMED THE TERRY KELLY SKATE CHAMP IN HONOR OF MR. KELLY AND FATHERS EVERYWHERE WHO SUPPORT AND CHEER FOR THEIR CHILDREN YES SPORTING EVENTS. WHEREAS 2023 MARKS THE EIGHTH ANNUAL TERRY KELLY SKATE CHAMP IN WHICH 18-YEAR-OLD FERNANDINA PAID HOMAGE TO HIS FATHER IN CARRYFORWARD FERNANDINA BEACH IN THE TERRY KELLY JIM IS RENOWNED AMONG AVID AND NON- SKATEBOARDERS YES A PREMIER EVENT WHICH WELCOMES CHILDREN OF ALL AGES AND SKILL LEVELS TO FAMILY-FRIENDLY LOCATION TO COMPETE WITH LIVE MUSIC, FUN FOR ALL WHEREAS THE CITY OF FERNANDINA BEACH HEREBY EXPRESSES THE FRIENDS OF FERNANDINA BEACH SKATE PARK FOR THE DEDICATION, THE INVOLVEMENT TO PROMOTE HEALTHY PHYSICAL OUTDOOR ACTIVITY AND NURTURING SELF-ESTEEM THROUGH ORGANIZING AND HOSTING THE TERRY KELLY SKATE PARK. ONCE AGAIN BY THE VIRTUE AND

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AUTHORITY INVESTED IN ME AND MAYOR OF OUR CITY TO PROCLAIM A GREAT EVENT WAS HAD AT THE SKATE JIM, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR BEING HERE. I HEARD SOMETHING GREAT, THIS IS THE SECOND BIGGEST SKATE EVENT AFTER THE ONE IN TAMPA THIS IS A HUGE DEAL LETTER SKATE PARK. THANK YOU FOR DOING IT, WE REALLY APPRECIATE YOU GUYS, WOULD YOU LIKE TO SAY A FEW

WORDS. >> THANK YOU.

PO BOX ONE FERNANDINA BEACH FLORIDA.

I WOULD LIKE TO RECOGNIZE FIRST OF ALL MR. KENNY PINSON WITH HIS DAUGHTER CHANGE WHO REPRESENTS OUR TOWN COACH.

SHE WILL BE TRAVELING THROUGHOUT THE WHOLE WORLD THIS YEAR HOPEFULLY TO PUT US ON A DIFFERENT LEVEL HERE, THIS YOUNG LADY HAS BEEN ALL OVER THE PLANET REPRESENTING OUR LITTLE TOWN IN OUR GREAT COUNTRY, THAT IS A RECOGNITION.

SHE IS OUR PICTURE ON OUR LOGO, TERRY KELLY WAS SUPPOSED TO BE HERE WITH HER SON FERNANDO, SHE WANTED ME TO THINK THE CITY COMMISSION AND THE MAYOR AND WANT YOU GUYS TO KNOW THAT SHE FEELS HONORED THAT HER HUSBAND'S NAME IS BEEN MENTIONED EVERY YEAR AND WE HONOR ALL PARENTS THAT, TO THESE EVENTS YES WE HONOR THE SKATEBOARD YES THEY WORKED TIRELESSLY EVERY DAY THERE'S NOT A GAME LIKE BASKETBALL, FOOTBALL, BASEBALL THERE'S NO RULES, THEY ARE THE ARCHITECTS AND IT'S A CAMPUS IN

THANK YOU FOR FERNANDINA BEACH >> PLEASE GIVE IT UP FOR ESCAPE OR COMMUNITY. [APPLAUSE]

>> THINK YOU, WE APPRECIATE IT. NEXT UP ITEM 4.3, PRESENTATION

[4.3 PRESENTATION - FERNANDINA BEACH MAIN STREET PROGRAM]

OF OUR FERNANDINA BEACH MAIN STREET PROGRAM.

WE WILL GIVE IT JUST THE SECOND AND WE INVITE MS. LISA TO COME

ON DOWN. >> WHICH ONE WOULD YOU LIKE TO

REVIEW FIRST MS. FINKELSTEIN. >> I THINK IT IS PROBABLY THE FAR RIGHT ONE. THE FIRST ONE, SORRY.

THERE WE GO. >> SORRY.

>> IT SHOWS THAT I HAVE COMBINED FINANCIALS.

I HAVE FOUR IN THE POWERPOINT. >> IT SHOULD HAVE THE DATE

SEPTEMBER 5. >> MS. LISA WE CAN PUT THIS AROUND TO GO TO ITEM 4.1 AND COME BACK TO THE MAINSTREAM PRESENTATION. ITEM 4.1.

BEFORE WE GO TO DISCUSSION I GET INTO A FEW OTHER SUGGESTIONS WITH AGENDA. NUMBER ONE YES I READ THROUGH, ITEM 7 .1 THROUGH 7.10, THOSE ALL SEEM VERY NONCONTROVERSIAL.

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I THINK WE SHOULD AGREE THOUGH SHOULD BE ON THE CONSENT AGENDA.

IF THERE IS NO OBJECTION UNWINNABLE OF 7.1 THROUGH 7.10

TO THE CONSENT AGENDA. >> HOLD ON.

>> NO. >> WHICH ONES WOULD YOU LIKE TO

ROLLOUT. >> 7.7, 7.9.

>> WE WILL TALK ABOUT THAT ONE AND 2633 AMELIA ROAD YES WELL.

>> WHICH ONES DO YOU WANT ON THE CONSENT AGENDA ONE THROUGH 10.

>> YOU WANT TO TAKE OFF 7.1, BLACKWATER CONSTRUCTION, A CHANGE ORDER, SOLE-SOURCE VENDOR, DRILLING.

I WOULD LEAVE 7.4. >> OKAY FOUR, SEVEN, NINE.

>> I WILL LEAVE ON 7.7. >> AUGOT IT.

>> 7.9, WE TALKED ABOUT THAT. YOU WANT TO TAKE 710 OFF?

>> I DO IF WE ALL AGREE. >> DO YOU KNOW WHAT CONSENT

AGENDA MEANS. >> I WANT TO MAKE SURE THEY KNOW

WHAT WERE DOING. >> THE CONSENT AGENDA IS TO SAVE THE PEOPLE'S TIME, WHAT WERE DOING RIGHT NOW IS THINGS THAT ARE COMPLETELY UNANIMOUS WE DON'T NEED TO SPEND A FEW MINUTES ON EACH ONE, AND UP AND I WANT TO HOPEFULLY GET EVERYBODY THERE TOPICS HEARD IN A REASONABLE TIME.

>> WHAT HE HASN'T TOLD YOU THERE IS AN OVER UNDER BET AND IS

WORKING ON THE UNDER BET. >> ABSOLUTELY.

>> I'M ALSO WORKING FOR YOU, I APPRECIATE THAT.

COMMISSIONER ROSS GOALKEEPER, SEVEN AND NINE AND THE REST WILL

GO ON THE CONSENT AGENDA. >> THAT IS FINE.

>> UNDERSTOOD. >> ALRIGHT I WILL ALSO BRING UP I WANT TO COMPLETELY SWIPE 7.14, THAT IS SOMETHING THAT I DON'T THINK THIS COMMISSION HAS ANY INTEREST IN 7.14 THAT IS SOMETHING I DON'T WISH TO DISCUSS IS A COMMISSION AND TO BE HONEST I THINK THAT IS COMMUNITY PARTNERS AND I DON'T THINK WE NEED TO HAVE THIS DISCUSSION NOW.

FOR THAT REASON I'M GOING TO REMOVE IT COMPLETELY FROM THE

AGENDA. >> I TOTALLY DISAGREE.

>> UNLESS THERE ARE TWO COMMISSIONERS THAT WISH TO PUT

IT ON. >> COMMISSIONER ROSS CAN YOU

EXPLAIN. >> WIFE CUSTOMER THESE PEOPLE ARE TAKING MONEY FROM US THAT THEY SHOULD NOT BE TAKING.

>> I'M NOT GOING TO HEAR ANY, I DON'T THINK WE NEED TO TAKE A ABOUT 7.14 I FIND IT DISAPPOINTING THAT WE ARE HAVING TO HAVE A DISCUSSION ABOUT TWO DIFFERENT GROUPS THAT HAVE BEEN COMMUNITY PARTNERS FOR A GREAT LONG TIME AND WE DON'T NEED TO DO THAT. FOR THAT REASON WERE TAKEN OFF THE AGENDA, TAKES TWO COMMISSIONERS TO PUT SOMETHING ON AND THAT'S THE WAY IT NEEDS TO STAY.

>> YOU ARE UNILATERALLY MOVING IT FROM THE AGENDA.

>> SIM BECAUSE YOU CAN'T UNILATERALLY PUT IT ON THE

AGENDA. >> POINT OF ORDER, IS THAT

APPROPRIATE. >> IT TAKES TO COMMISSIONER TO PUT SOMETHING ON AN AGENDA AND WE DID NOT HAVE TO COMMISSIONERS

THAT PUT THIS ON THE AGENDA. >> I DID NOT PUT IT ON THE

AGENDA. >> I UNDERSTAND.

>> NOTED. >> WITH ITEM 4.3 FROM THE MAIN

STREET PROGRAM MS. LISA. >> THANK YOU AND SORRY FOR THE

DELAY. >> OVERALL.

>> TO SUPPORT THE ECONOMIC VITALITY WITHIN OUR DOWNTOWN AND

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EIGHT STREET BUSINESS DISTRICT. WE HAVE FOUR DIFFERENT COUNCILS THAT WORK ON DIFFERENT PROJECTS TO SUPPORT THOSE GOALS AND I BETTER RUN THROUGH A SUMMARY OF WHAT WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON.

FOR TIME PURPOSES, IF YOU HAVE ANY OF THEM, FEEL FREE TO ASK OUR COUNSEL HAS BEEN BUSY PLANNING OUR NEXT BUSINESS MEETING GREET, WE DID THIS ONCE A QUARTER.

WE TYPICALLY DO A PROGRAM THAT IS EDUCATIONAL OR INFORMATIONAL TO THE BUSINESSES. THIS TIME IN SEPTEMBER WE ARE HAPPY TO BE ANNOUNCING THE CREATION OF A NEW FAÇADE IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM IT IS A MATCHING GRANT PROGRAM AND AWARD UP TO $10000 GOES TO PROPERTY AND BUSINESS OWNERS IN THE STREET FACING PORTIONS OF THE PROPERTY THAT CAN BE SIGNS, AWNINGS, THE FAÇADE ITSELF, LANDSCAPE, ANY OF THOSE TYPES OF THINGS WILL BE ELIGIBLE. AND WERE EXCITED TO ROLL THAT OUT AND GIVE IT BACK TO THE COMMUNITY WITH THOSE DOLLARS TO HELP FACILITATE THE IMPAIRMENT. THAT'LL BE NEXT WEDNESDAY ROLLING OUT HER BUSINESS COMMUNITY INTO THE CONTRACTORS IN THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT AND OUR STAKEHOLDERS.

ANOTHER THING IS THE BUSINESS SURVEY, WE TRY TO DO TWO OF THOSE A YEAR. JUSTIFIED OUT THEIR THOUGHTS WE HAVE A HIGH CONSENSUS ON THAT SUBJECT AND ALSO DETERMINING THEIR DEMOGRAPHIC DATA NEEDS FOR THE BUSINESS AND THE PROPERTY OWNERS THINGS SUCH YES RENTAL RATES OF POPULATION AND VISITOR INFO DETERMINING WHAT THEY NEED SO WE CAN MAKE SURE WE'RE PROVIDING ON OUR WEBSITE TO THEM.

OUR ORGANIZATION COUNSEL, THEY ARE 100% OCCUPIED RIGHT NOW ON ISLAND TALK IS A BIG ENDEAVOR HAPPENING ON OCTOBER 7 WE ARE A MONTH OUT BUT THEY'VE ALSO BEEN WORKING ON THE STRATEGIC PLANNING PROCESS WHICH LEADS US TO DEVELOP A WORK PLAN FOR THE COMING YEAR THE WORK PLAN IS ACCREDITED BY THE NATIONAL MAIN STREET ORGANIZATION THAT LAYS OUT WHAT EACH COUNSEL IS GOING TO DO TO SUPPORT A COMMISSION FOR THE COMING YEAR.

THEY HAVE BEEN BUSY WORKING ON THAT AND OUR ORGANIZATIONAL BUDGET YES WELL. THE ISLAND HOP REPRESENTS 45% OF OUR REVENUE IN OUR BUDGET, IT IS A SIGNIFICANT EVENT THAT SUPPORTS US. THE PROMOTIONS COUNSEL YES ALWAYS BUSY WITH EVENTS WE HAD A VOLUNTEER APPRECIATION EVENT, THIS SUMMER HOSTED BY WHATEVER MAIN STREET BUSINESSES THE HEIRLOOM ON SOUTH 10TH, WE HAD ABOUT 45 VOLUNTEERS THAT CAME, THEY SERVE ON OUR COUNSEL OR THEY SERVE YES VOLUNTEERS FOR OUR EVENTS THAT WE HOLD. WERE HAPPY TO RECOGNIZE THEM FOR THEIR SERVICE IN TIME. WE ALSO HOLD SHOP IN AUGUST AND WE HAD BEEN HOLDING WHAT IN JANUARY, THIS IS THE SECOND ONE IN AUGUST AT THE REQUEST OF THE BUSINESSES, AUGUST IS TRADITIONALLY A SLOW TIME ONCE THE KIDS GO BACK TO SCHOOL THE VACATIONERS GO HOME, THINGS SLOW DOWN FOR THE LAST COUPLE WEEKS OF AUGUST SO WE PLACED IT THERE AND WE HAD REALLY GREAT FEEDBACK FROM THE BUSINESSES, THERE WERE 24 BUSINESSES THAT WERE INVOLVED. 290 PARTICIPANTS, ON A FRIDAY NIGHT WE BROUGHT ALMOST 300 PEOPLE DOWN IN THE CITY READY TO SHOP AND A LOT OF BUSINESSES SAID IT INCREASE FOOT TRAFFIC AND FIRST-TIME CUSTOMERS FOR THEM TO MAKE PEOPLE AWARE OF THEIR BUSINESSES IN THE SALES INCREASE THAT WAS QUOTED FOR THE BUSINESSES FROM ANYWHERE FROM 25% FROM THE PRIOR FRIDAY TO 68% INCREASE, IT DEFINITELY HAS AN IMPACT THIS IS THE SPIRITS LOUNGE NOT TO BE CHAUVINISTIC BUT OUTER MALE SHOPPING PARTNERS TO GIVE THEM SOMETHING TO DO WITH THAT JJ COOPER AND IT WAS EXCITING, NEW AND FUN AND WE HAVE A SUPPLY BY E WHEELS TO GET PEOPLE AND MOVE PEOPLE AROUND TO SOME MORE REMOTE LOCATIONS AND BUSINESSES, VERY WELL RECEIVED. OUR DESIGN COUNSEL, THEY HAVE HAD TWO MAIN INITIATIVES SINCE I'VE BEEN PART OF MAIN STREET.

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IT'S A STREETSCAPE DESIGN GUIDE CREATED THE REFERENCE BOOK FOR THE CITY TO USE SO WHEN STAFF CHANGES OR WHEN A SCOPE OF WORK HAS TO GO OUT TO CONTRACTOR THEY UNDERSTAND WHAT OUR STANDARDS ARE WHETHER IT'S WHICH BIKE RACKS THAT WE USE, WHAT ARE MEMORIAL BENCHES LOOK LIKE, WHERE THE NEWSPAPER BOXES GO, IT'S ALL THE DIFFERENT ELEMENTS THAT MAKE UP THE STREETSCAPE DOWNTOWN. THIS YEAR WE HAVE BEEN WORKING VERY HARD ON THE STREETLIGHT PROJECT.

THIS IS A CONTINUATION OF PAST YEAR ON THE DESIGN OF THE STREETLIGHT, WE WORKED CLOSELY WITH THE CITY AND MILLER ELECTRIC ON ACTUAL DESIGN FOR WHERE THE STREETLIGHTS WILL BE PLACED IN THIS WOULD BE PART OF THE REVITALIZATION PROJECT THAT WILL GO DOWNTOWN. THAT HAS BEEN A BIG PIECE OF THIS AND THAT WILL BE PART OF THIS DESIGN GUIDE GOING FORWARD AND ALSO LANDSCAPE PLAN, REFRESHING AND LANDSCAPE DOWNTOWN COMING UP WITH A STANDARD GUIDE PLANT LIST SO WHEN CITY STAFF OR ANOTHER CONTRACTOR AND THEY KNOW EXACTLY WHAT GOES IN THERE AND WE DON'T HAVE PLANS THAT ARE APPROPRIATE FOR SHADE, SON AND WHATEVER THE CONDITIONS IN THE BED.

THAT IS ONGOING AND WE ARE WORKING WITH AND WORKING ON THAT, THAT WILL ULTIMATELY BECOME PART OF THE DESIGN GUIDE.

THE FINAL ELEMENT THAT IS BEING TALKED ABOUT IS THE SIDEWALK MATERIAL AND WHERE THAT WILL ULTIMATELY PLEA AND PRICING CONSIDERATION AND AESTHETICS AND ALL OF THAT TO DETERMINE WHAT THAT WILL BE PREPARED TO THE REVITALIZATION OF DOWNTOWN PLAN.

THE OTHER INITIATIVE THAT WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON SINCE I'VE BEEN HERE IS A HISTORIC STREETSCAPE PRESERVATION ORDINANCE, THE SABIA DOCUMENT THAT AGAIN WITH THAT STAFF AND OUTSIDE CONTRACTORS UNDERSTAND WHAT IS IMPORTANT TO US YES A CITY THAT WE MAINTAIN. THIS WOULD BE THE CONCRETE STREET MARKERS THAT YOU SEE ON THE CURVES, IT WOULD BE THE GRANITE CURVING, THE BRICK, HISTORIC BRICKS IN OUR CROSSWALKS. IT WOULD BE THE HEX PAVERS WHERE THEY REMAINED IN FRONT OF THE COURTHOUSE AND IN FRONT OF THE LOT SAYING HOUSE SO THEY STAY PART OF OUR STREETSCAPE AND WHEN WE HAVE A CONTRACTOR COMING THEY RECOGNIZE IT'S SOMETHING THAT DOESN'T GET DISTURBED. I THINK MOST OF YOU HAVE PROBABLY SEEN THE ORDINANCE IT WAS DUE TO COME UP TONIGHT BUT IT'S BEEN PUSHED UP TO THE FIRST WEEK IN OCTOBER.

I'M ASKING FOR YOUR SUPPORT OR IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS TO DISCUSS OUTSIDE OF THE MEETING YES WELL, WE WOULD REALLY LIKE TO GET IN PLACE TO PROTECT THOSE THINGS, THOSE ARE THE ELEMENTS THAT REALLY ADD CHARACTER TO A CITY AND WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY STAY HERE, ONCE ARE GONE THEY'RE GONE.

A PORTION OF THE EVENT AND FUNDRAISING REVENUE.

WE ORIGINALLY HAD ISLAND HOPPING SEPTEMBER, LAST YEAR'S OCTOBER 7, THIS YEAR WE HAD A CARRYOVER LAST YEAR AND NOW GOING FORWARD SHOULD BE COMPARING APPLES TO APPLES.

THE SAME WITH THE EVENT AND FUNDRAISING EXPENSES.

A PORTION OF THAT IS PART OF WHAT WAS UP FROM THE 2022 ISLAND HOP. THAT WILL ALL EVEN OUT WE HAD AN INCREASE IN THE MEMBER CONTRIBUTION AND EXPECT MORE TO COME IN, WE STRENGTHEN THE RECOGNITION PACKAGE THAT WE PROVIDE TO OUR SUPPORTERS TO INCLUDE MORE DIRECT PROMOTION FOR THEIR BUSINESSES THROUGH OUR SOCIAL MEDIA THROUGHOUT EVENTS, THAT'S WHAT'S BEEN EXPRESSED BY THEM IN MEANINGFUL SO WE HAVE INCREASED WHAT WE ARE DOING FOR THEM AND THAT WAY.

IN THE EXPENSES YOU CAN STEER PRETTY MUCH IN LINE IN THE REVENUE SIDE, THEIR WELL-MANAGED IN DIRECT PROPORTION.

THAT IS THE SPEED VERSION OF WHAT WE'VE BEEN DOING, THE OTHER THING THAT IS A CONCERN FOR US IS THE CLOSURE OF ATLANTIC THAT'S A REAL PROBLEM OF THE SCHOOLHOUSE WE'VE BEEN URGING

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THE CITY TO MAINTAIN THE HISTORIC THOSE ARE ORIGINAL SO THE OVER 100 YEARS OLD. WE KNOW THEY'RE IN BAD SHAPE AND THEY CANNOT ALL BE SAVED BUT WE THINK THERE IS SOME TYPE OF A SOLUTION THAT WE COULD COME UP WITH ALONG WITH AFT.THAT WILL BE A COMBINATION OF HEX PAVERS IN THE SIDEWALK AND ON THE DRIVEWAYS ON THE COMPUTER AND SOMETHING TO MAINTAIN THE AUTHENTICITY. AGAIN IF THERE TAKEN OUT AND BRUSHED CONCRETE IS PUTTING THEIR IT'S GOING TO CHANGE THE LOOK OF THAT AND ALONG WITH THAT WE ARE CONFIDENT THAT THE LARGE OAK TREE ON THE CORNER OF EIGHTH AND ATLANTIC CAN BE SAVED.

IT'LL TAKE YOUR SUPPORT TO LET CITY STAFF KNOW AND F.KNOW THAT THAT IS WHAT WE WANT WE WANT TO MAINTAIN THE CHARACTER OF OUR CITY THROUGH OUR BEAUTIFUL OAK TREES IN OUR HISTORIC SIDEWALKS.

WE'RE HOPING THEY CAN FIND A SOLUTION THAT IS EQUITABLE TO ALL AND WE WOULD LIKE TO BE PART OF WHATEVER THAT SOLUTION IS.

THAT IS ALL I HAVE TONIGHT. >> ANY QUESTIONS FOR MS. LISA?

>> THANK YOU FOR YOUR REPORT, LATER ON IN THE AGENDA ABOUT THE ROAD CLOSING BETWEEN ASH AND CENTER STREET AND THIRD STREET FOR OKTOBERFEST I WAS WONDERING WHAT MAIN STREETS, YOU E-MAILED THAT I BE INTERESTED IN THE PUBLIC KNOWING.

>> TYPICALLY YES WE HAD NEW EVENTS APPLY WE'VE BEEN RELUCTANT TO SEE STREETS CLOSE CRITIC CREATES A HARDSHIP, NOT ALL BUSINESSES ARE IN FAVOR NOT ARE ALL OPPOSED EITHER.

IN THIS INSTANCE ON THAT PARTICULAR DAY THERE IS ALREADY A LARGE EVENT DOWNTOWN THAT REQUIRES THE CLOSING OF CENTER STREET AND THEY WILL BE USING SOME OF THE SIDE STREETS ALTHOUGH THEY WILL NOT BE USING SOUTH THIRD WHICH IS THE STREET IN QUESTION LATER TONIGHT. SO WE SEE NO PROBLEM THAT STREET WILL EFFECTIVELY BE CLOSED SO WE SEE NO PROBLEM WITH THE CLOSURE FOR THAT EVENT ON THAT PARTICULAR DAY.

>> THANK YOU MS. LISA. >> VICE MAYOR.

>> THANK YOU, MAYOR. >> LISA BRIEFLY I WANT TO SAY AYE THINK YOU DO AN EXCELLENT JOB AND I ENJOYED YOUR PRESENTATION AND I WANT TO SPEAK WITH YOU LATER ABOUT SOME OF THE STUFF ON THE REPORT BUT NOTHING I NEED TO SPEAK WITH YOU NOW, JUST IDEAS AND DIFFERENT THINGS FOR PRESENTATION TO CONTINUE YES FAR YES THE BUSINESSES ARE CONCERNED.

>> I APPRECIATE THAT I WOULD INVITE ANY OF YOU YES WERE PREPARING A WORK PLAN FOR THE COMING YEAR INTO PLEASE LET US KNOW WHAT IS IMPORTANT TO YOU SO WE CAN FIGURE OUT WHICH COUNSEL CAN TACKLE IT AND WERE HAPPY TO WORK ON IT.

OUR GOAL IS TO COLLABORATE WITH THE CITY AND ALSO OTHER ORGANIZATIONS TO GET THE BEST RESULTS THAT WE CAN FOR OUR

COMMUNITY. >> I HAVE ONE AND IF IT'S A LONG QUESTION, DON'T WORRY ABOUT IT BUT I THINK IT'S QUICK.

I NOTICED ON YOUR BUDGET THE BOOK SALES WERE NEGATIVE FOR THE LAST TWO MONTHS, WHAT DOES THAT MEAN.

>> WE CHANGE THE WAY WERE ACCOUNTING FOR THEM.

WE WERE ORIGINALLY, WE SELL OUR BOOKS THROUGH OUR OFFICE, THE MUSEUM, THE BOOK LOFT IN STORY AND SONG SO WE WERE PROVIDING BOOKS TO THE OTHER LOCATIONS AND WE WOULD ONLY BUILD THEM WHEN THEY SOLD THEM AND HE BECAME A BOOKKEEPING NIGHTMARE.

IT WAS TOO HARD TO TRACK READ WHAT WE DO WE BUILD THEM YES THEY GO OUT OF OUR OFFICE AND WE ALSO DID TO REPRINT TEENS SO WE HAD SOME BOOK EXPENSES IN TERMS OF REPRINTING, THAT IS THE GOOD NEWS. I HAVE A FULL SUPPLY THAT JUST CAME IN STORY AND SONG HELPS US WITH THE PUBLISHING ON THAT.

SO WE ARE FULLY STOCKED FOR THE HOLIDAY, THEY SELL VERY WELL AT THE HOLIDAYS THAT PEOPLE LIKE TO PROVIDE FOR FRIENDS AND FAMILY

AND HAVE FOR THEMSELVES. >> PERFECT, THANK YOU SO MUCH.

[5.1 CITY MANAGER SEARCH COMMITTEE - FINALIST RECOMMENDATIONS]

>> MOVING ALONG ITEM FIVE DISCUSSION 5.1 CITY MANAGER RECOMMENDATIONS. IS THERE A PRESENTATION FROM THE CITY STAFF ON THIS? WE WILL JUST JUMP IN THIS IS US DISCUSSING AND WE DON'T NEED TO DISCUSS LONG ON THIS, ALSO YOU ARE CITY CITIZENS COMMITTEE CAME BACK WITH THE TOP BOARD AND RECOMMENDED IN THE TOP FOUR ARE COMING NEXT WEEK.

ON MONDAY IT'LL BE HERE TAKING A TOUR OF THE CITY MONDAY

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AFTERNOON AND THERE WILL BE INTERVIEWS AND WE WILL INDIVIDUALLY INTERVIEW THEM ON TUESDAY WE WILL BE WITH THE POOR FINALIST. AT THIS POINT IN TIME, I DO HAVE

COMMISSIONER AYSCUE. >> I WOULD LIKE TO THINK THE CITY MANAGER OF THE SEARCH COMMITTEE FOR ALL THEIR HARD WORK THEY DID A FANTASTIC JOB, I WAS VERY PLEASED WITH THEIR EFFORTS AND VERY PROFESSIONAL HOW THEY WENT ABOUT THEIR BUSINESS AND I WANT TO THANK ALL OF THEM.

I DON'T KNOW IF THIS WOULD BE A GOOD TIME, I DON'T KNOW IF WE NEED A MOTION BUT TO SUNSET THE COMMITTEE BECAUSE WERE AT THE

END. >> THE EARLY SUNSET IN

THEMSELVES. >> I GET THAT I JUST DON'T UNDERSTAND IF THAT IS PROCEDURALLY OKAY FOR COMMITTEE TO SAY WERE NOT DOING THIS ANYMORE I THOUGHT WE MAY HAVE TO

YES A COMMISSION SUNSET. >> I THINK THAT'S AN EXCELLENT IDEA WE CAN OFFICIALLY DO IT TONIGHT, DO I HEAR A MOTION.

>> I MAKE A MOTION TO SUNSET THE CITY MANAGER SEARCH COMMITTEE.

>> I WILL SECOND. >> MOTION AND THE CYCLE DO THIS WITHOUT OBJECTION. SEE NONE THAT IS DE HAAN AND I ALSO ECHO THEM THANK YOU TO THE WORK THAT YOU PUT IN FOR THE

CITY. >> GOOD ADVICE COMMISSIONERS.

>> THANK YOU, MAYOR. I HEARD THE COMMITTEE SPENT A LOT OF TIME AND IN PREVIOUSLY MENTIONED BY COMMISSIONER ROSS A LOT OF PEOPLE DROPPED OUT OF THE RACE.

I AM CONCERNED WITH THE POLE AND ALLSTATE THAT ONE TIME I AM CONCERNED WITH THE POOL OF CANDIDATES THAT WE HAVE LEFT OVER. I HOPE NEXT WEEK WE WILL BE ABLE TO SPEAK WITH THEM, TALK WITH THEM AND HOPEFULLY THAT PERSON WILL BE ONE OF THOSE FOUR PEOPLE, THAT IS MY OPINION.

>> COMMISSIONER ROSS. >> I HAVE A QUESTION FOR THE CITY ATTORNEY AND THEN I HAVE ANOTHER QUESTION FOR THE COMMISSION THE CITY CHARTER REQUIRES THE CITY COMMISSION AND CITY MANAGER BE RESIDENTS OF THE CITY.

I WAS CURIOUS THE CRITERIA THE SAME FOR THE CITY MANAGER IN THE

CITY COMMISSIONERS? >> NOT NECESSARILY THE RESIDENT IS NOT TO FIND THE CITY CHARTER WERE IN THE CITY CODE WITH REGARD TO ELECTED OFFICIALS WHICH COVER CITY COMMISSIONER, FLORIDA STATUTE HAS SOME GUIDANCE IN THE ELECTION CODE BUT WITH REGARD TO THE CITY MANAGER THERE IS NO GUIDANCE.

IT REALLY DEPENDS ON WHAT THE CITY COMMISSION REPRESENTING THE COMMUNITY BELIEVES RESIDENT IS. IF YOU LOOK AT CITY MANAGER ACROSS THE COUNTRY NOT JUST IN FLORIDA, RESIDENT COULD BE RENTING PROPERTY ALL THE WAY TO WHAT THE ELECTION CODE REQUIRES FOR ELECTION OFFICIALS IN FLORIDA THAT THEY BE REGISTERED TO VOTE IN A CERTAIN LOCATION. IT'S REALLY UP TO THE CITY COMMISSION IN THE COMMUNITY WHAT THE RESIDENT MEANS FOR CITY

MANAGER. >> THANK YOU.

>> MY QUESTION TO MY FELLOW COMMISSIONERS DO ANY OF THE COMMISSIONERS ANTICIPATING DOMINATING ANY OTHER CANDIDATES AND IF SO WILL THEY HAVE TO GO TO THE SAME INTERVIEW PROCESS?

>> I DON'T HEAR ANYONE DOMINATING ANYONE AT THIS TIME WE EVER REQUEST TO SPEAK FROM COMMISSIONER ANTUN.

>> ALL SPEAK FOR MYSELF AT THE MOMENT I HAVE EVERY INTENTION OF GIVING THESE FOUR CANDIDATES THE BEST POSSIBLE OPPORTUNITY AND

I'M HOPING ONE OF THEM WOWS ME. >> THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER.

>> I LOOK FORWARD TO MEETING THEM THESE ARE THE CREAM OF THE CROP YES NARROWED DOWN BY HER CITIZENS COMMITTEE AND ONCE AGAIN YES COMMISSIONER AYSCUE STATED I WANT TO THANK THEM FOR THE WORK THAT THEY PUT IN AND I THINK THESE ARE GREAT CANDIDATES AND I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO MEETING THEM NEXT WEEK.

IT'S GOING TO BE GREAT. >> ONE LAST THING ON MONDAY THERE'S A MEET AND GREET CAN WE PUT THAT ON THE CITY WEBSITE.

>> WE SHOULD WE'VE GIVEN NOTICE TO THE PUBLIC.

>> IT WAS DONE LAST WEEK. >> THANK YOU FOR THAT.

>> IT IS ON THE WEBSITE? >> I WILL CHECK.

>> I GOT A PHONE CALL TODAY THAT IT WASN'T SO I WANTED TO BRING

THAT IT. >> EXCELLENT.

[5.2 LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE (LDC) SECTION 1.03.04: DEMOLITION OF STRUCTURES ON SUBSTANDARD LOTS; LDC SECTION 1.03.05: CONSTRUCTION OR DEMOLITION OF STRUCTURES ON COMBINED LOTS; LDC SECTION 1.07.00: DEFINITION OF "NET DENSITY"; AND COMPREHENSIVE PLAN DEFINITION "NET DENSITY"]

>> THANK YOU. SEE NO FURTHER DISCUSSION LET'S MOVE ON TO ITEM 5.2 THIS IS LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE SECTION 1.304 STRUCTURES ON LOTS 1.305, CONSTRUCTION OR DEMOLITION OF COMBINED LOTS LD C-SECTION 1.0700 DEFINITION OF DENSITY AND COMPREHEND THE PLAN DEFINITION NET DENSITY THIS IS PUT ON THE AGENDA BY OUR VICE MAYOR DAVID STURGES, YOU HAVE THE FLOOR.

>> THANK YOU, MAYOR I PUT THIS ON THE AGENDA BECAUSE THIS IS BEEN A LONG TIME COMING AND A DISCUSSION OF MANY CITIZENS AND LOSSES THAT HAVE PRECEDED FROM PREVIOUS INFORMATION AND WE

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DISCUSSED AND A COUPLE OF OUR JOINT MEETING WITH THE BOARD WE DISCUSSED THAT THERE NEEDED TO BE CLARIFICATION FOR 13.5 AND 10304. CURRENTLY THERE HAS BEEN NO CLARIFICATION AND I BELIEVE THE CITY COULD NOT CONTINUE ON WITH LACK OF CLARIFICATION. IN MY OPINION IN IF I CAN GET THE CONSENSUS OF THE CITY COMMISSION FOR STAFF TO CREATE A CLARIFICATION FOR THE THREE EXAMPLES 10304, ONE OF 305 AND 1.07 WE CAN PROCEED IN JUSTIFYING CLARIFICATION ON HOW THE ORDINANCE THAT ARE IN THE LDC YES WELL YES THE COMP PLAN THAT IS NET DENSITY CAN BE LOOKED AT CORRECTLY AND ANYBODY THAT GOES ON TO DEVELOP, CONSTRUCT, REPAIR THEIR HOUSE, REMODEL HER HOUSE, BUILT IN THE CITY, ALTER ANYTHING IN THE CITY THEY WILL HAVE DIRECTION OF WHAT OUR ROLE IS AND WHERE WE COME FROM THIS HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH RE-PLOTTING THIS HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH LARGER SUBDIVISIONS THIS HAS EVERYTHING TO DO WITH OUR CODE OF OUR REGULAR LOTS THAT PEOPLE SEE INNER-CITY AND HOW THEY'RE ABLE TO USE THEM AND NOT USE THEM WHETHER R1, R2 OR ARE THREE. CURRENTLY THERE IS A LACK YES I DISCUSSED WITH KELLY GIBSON AND A HOPPER BRIEFLY DISCUSS IT AFTER I GO OVER WHAT I THINK OUR THOUGHTS SHOULD BE AND HOW THIS DIRECTION SHOULD GO WITH 10304 AND 10305 TO START WITH ALL START THE DISCUSSION. NONE OF THIS IS RADICAL IN THIS THINKING AT LEAST IN MY OPINION IF THE HOUSE HAS AN AIR CONDITIONING AREA AND COVERS TWO LOTS THAN THOSE OF THE TWO LOTS THAT THEY'RE ABLE TO USE THEY CANNOT BUILD ANYMORE THAN ON THE TWO LOTS. IF THE HOUSE COVERS THREE LOTS AND IT'S ALL AIR-CONDITIONED THEN IT COVERS THREE LOTS IS ALL AIR-CONDITIONED. WE HAD ONE FROM MARIO THAT SAT .

IT WAS NOT CONNECTED TO HIS HOUSE AND BECAUSE OF THAT THE CITY HAD TO GO TO A LAWSUIT AND OBVIOUSLY HE WON IN THE COURT SYSTEM AND HE WAS ABLE TO GO TO THE GARAGE AND BUILD A HOUSE ON THAT LOT. I THINK IT'S A LITTLE RIDICULUS TO CALL DEVELOPED IN OUR CODE THAT IS NOT DEFINED A DRIVEWAY, SHED, ANY STRUCTURE, A PORCH ANYTHING NOT CONDITIONED.

I THINK IT'S PRETTY CUT AND DRY IF WE ADJUST THE CODE IF IT'S HEATED AND COOLED AND IT SITS ON THREE LOTS, FOUR LOTS WHATEVER THE CASE IS THAT IS WHAT YOUR BUILDING AREA IS.

I THINK THAT IS THE SIMPLE VERSION AND I'LL LET KELLY DESCRIBE WHAT I'M SAYING. I THINK SHE COULD GET MORE DEFINITION TO IT. YES FAR YES 1.07, NET DENSITY I SPOKE DIRECTLY, I HOPE I DON'T BUTCHER HIS LAST NAME OUR FLOOD ZONE MANAGER IN THE CONTRACT FOR OUR FLOOD ZONE CREDITS AND 1.07 SPEAKS DIRECTLY TO NET DENSITY, I JUST WANT TO STRIKE OUT NET DENSITY AND AFTER A LONG DISCUSSION HAS INFORMED ME THAT THE STRIKING OUT HAS 0 TO DO WITH HER FUTURE FLOODPLAIN AND 0 WHETHER FLOOD CREDIT, I DON'T HAVE ANY OF THESE LOTS BUT LET'S SAY YOU HAVE AN R2 LOT AND I CAN GIVE YOU AN EXAMPLE OF FIFTH AND TARPON WERE SOMEBODY BUILT WHAT THEY CAN BUILD IN THE MAXIMUM AMOUNT OF SIZE EVEN THOUGH IT WAS R2 THEY HAVE TO BUILD IT TO THE FLOOD ZONE LEVEL ANYWAYS CORRECTLY BUT BECAUSE OF NET DENSITY IN ONE CORNER OF THEIR LOT THEY CANNOT BUILD A DUPLEX THEY HAD TO BUILD ONE RESIDENT THERE ARE MINIMAL LOTS INNER-CITY THAT THIS AFFECTS I HAVE KELLY RESEARCHING TO SEE

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EXACTLY HOW MANY THIS AFFECTS BUT CURRENTLY I'M AWARE IT'S NOT A LOT. WHEN SHE COMES BACK WITH THE RESEARCHER HOPING THE COMMISSION HAS CONSENSUS TO MAKE THE SLIGHT ADJUSTMENTS TO OUR COMP PLAN TO HOPEFULLY CLEAN THINGS UP DALE SCHWAB. I SPOKE WITH HIM MULTIPLE TIMES, HE SAYS THIS WILL NOT AFFECT OUR FLOOD RATING YES A CITY.

THAT THIS HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH OUR FLOOD RATING.

SO IF SOMEBODY IS ABLE TO BUILD AND BUILD A DUPLEX TO 1000 SQUARE UNITS, HE WOULD HAVE TO BUILD A 2000 SQUARE-FOOT HOUSE WHEN IT DOES NOT AFFECT THE MASS OF THE STRUCTURE OR OUR FLOOD ZONE THOSE ARE THE ITEMS IN BRINGING AND I FEEL THE RIGHT DIRECTION TO CLARIFY AND KEEP US OUT.

>> THINK YOU VICE MAYOR DID YOU SAY MS. GIBSON HAS A PRESENTATION. WOULD YOU LIKE TO COME UP AND WOULD YOU LIKE TO SPEAK BEFORE OR AFTER.

>> I CAN WAIT UNTIL MS. GIBSON SPEAK.

>> KELLY GIBSON PLANNING CONSERVATION.

I DON'T HAVE A FORMAL PRESENTATION BUT I'M AVAILABLE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS OR PROVIDE FURTHER TECHNICAL ASSISTANCE ON THE POINT THAT VICE MAYOR STURGES HAS RAISED.

YES I UNDERSTAND IT TO PROVIDE A BRIEF SUMMARY AND WHAT WE JUST DISCUSSED THERE IS A REQUEST TO AMEND AND CLARIFY LD C-SECTION 1.0304 WHICH RELATES TO THE DEMOLITION OF STRUCTURES ON SUBSTANDARD LOT AND SECTION 1.03.05, CONSTRUCTION FOR DEMOLITION OF STRUCTURES ON COMBINED LOTS, THE CLARIFICATION THAT I HEARD WOULD BE SPECIFIC TO THE COMBINATION OF LOTS WERE THOSE ONLY CONDITION, HEATED AND COOLED SPACE ON A PRINTABLE STRUCTURE AND WOULD NOT RELATE TO DECKS OR PORCHES PROVIDED OUTSIDE OF THE SPACE IT WOULD NOT RELATE TO DETACHED GARAGES, ACCESSORY DWELLING UNITS, SHEDS, SWIMMING POOLS, DRIVEWAYS OR ANY OTHER ELEMENTS IT WOULD ONLY BE HEATED AND COOLED SPACE DOES NOT

SUMMARIZE. >> THAT'S EXACTLY IT.

I THINK THAT HITS THE NAIL ON THE HEAD AND IT'LL HELP US GET OUT OF NOT DEFINING WHAT WE WILL OR WILL NOT EXCEPT FOR A SINGLE

LOT. >> THANK YOU VICE MAYOR.

>> COMMISSIONER AYSCUE. >> I WANT TO POINT OUT WE SAT DOWN WITH THE PAB AND WE HAD A GOOD LONG DISCUSSION THAT WE WERE GOING TO GO DIRECT CODE AND CLARIFY YES BEST YES POSSIBLE AND FROM WHAT I REMEMBER WE SCHEDULED FOR THE FALL SO WERE CERTAINLY HERE IN THE FALL NOW AND STAFF CAN ONLY DO SO MUCH I KNOW YOU'RE BUSY AND PLANS COMING IN ALL THE TIME BUT WE DID SAY WE WERE GOING TO GET TO THIS AND I THINK NOW IS THE TIME TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS PROJECT.

IT COULD DEFINITELY TAKE A LITTLE BIT LONGER THAN WE WOULD LIKE BUT LET'S GET IT DONE AND GET IT DONE RIGHT AND HAVE THE PAB WEIGH-IN AND PLENTY OF PUBLIC INPUT.

I'M EXCITED ABOUT THAT. >> COMMISSIONER ANTUN.

>> I KNOW VICE MAYOR STURGES SAID YOU'RE RESEARCHING THE DATA BUT DO WE HAVE AN ESTIMATE OF THE NUMBER THAT THIS INFLUENCES

IS A 50, 100, 250. >> AT THIS POINT IN TIME IT'S OVER 200 LOT BUT THERE ARE OTHER ENVIRONMENTAL CONDITIONS AND CONSTRAINTS ON A PARTICULAR PIECE OF PROPERTY THAT WOULD REMOVE IT FROM BEING ABLE TO MAXIMIZE THE AVAILABLE DENSITY OF THE TERM FLOODPLAIN WERE TO BE REMOVED SO AYE BELIEVE IT'LL BE OUTWARD AROUND 200 PIECES OF PROPERTY.

>> COMMISSIONER ROSS. >> I THINK THE CURRENT CODE IS CRYSTAL-CLEAR BUT CURRENTLY I'M WRONG WHAT THESE CHANGES ARE TO MAXIMIZE DENSITY AND PUT MORE UNITS ON A BARRIER ISLAND IT WILL INCREASE THE NUMBER OF CARS ON THE ISLAND AND CONGESTION AND AIR POLLUTION BY INCREASING THE NUMBER OF CARS ON THE ISLAND WE WILL CREATE MORE PERMEABLE SURFACE CREATING INCREASING FLOODING WE WILL DECREASE WATER REGENERATION WERE IN INCREASING THE NEED FOR POLICE SERVICES AND TAXES BY INCREASING DENSITY AND

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MORE UNITS TO THE ISLAND WE WILL INCREASE THE NEED FOR EMS AND FIRE SERVICES, INCREASING TAXES, WE WILL INCREASE THE NEED FOR NEW SCHOOL INCREASING TAXES WE WILL DECREASE THE TREE CANOPY, WE WILL DECREASE WILDLIFE HABITAT, WE WILL INCREASE PROFITS FOR LAND SPECULATORS, DEVELOPERS AND BUILDERS IN AN INCREASE IN DENSITY PROMOTES RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT OVER COMMERCIAL, AN INCREASE IN TAXES, THE COST OF BUYING LAND FOR CONSERVATION PARKS ENJOYS OUT LONG-TERM RESIDENCE BY DRIVING UP LAND PRICES, CAUSES NEIGHBOR JENNIFER CASE AND, IT DECREASES GREEN SPACES, INCREASES NUISANCE AT BEACHES AND PARKING IT EVERYBODY COMPLAINS ABOUT IN GENERAL IT DECREASES THE QUALITY OF LIFE, IT DECREASES HER SMALL TOWN CHARM AND INCREASES HURRICANE EVACUATION TIME AND IT CREATES MORE MILLION-DOLLAR CONDOS AND HOMES, THESE CHANGES PACK YES MANY PEOPLE IN THE BARRIER ISLAND YES POSSIBLE THEN IF LAND SPECULATORS, DEVELOPERS AND BUILDERS THEY WILL CAUSE A DECREASE IN THE LIFE OF MOST RESIDENTS AND I THINK THIS IS DEATH BY A THOUSAND CUTS IN DEATH IS DEATH EVEN IF IT'S BY A THOUSAND CUTS. I'LL BE HAPPY TO LISTEN ANY CHANGES PROPOSED BUT AT THIS POINT I WILL NOT BE PARTY OR

CONSENSUS GOING FORWARD. >> THANK YOU MR. ROSS THE REASON I THINK WE NEED TO LOOK AT THIS CODE I READ IT MANY TIMES THROUGH AND I THINK IT'S VERY CLEAR HOW IT READS.

THAT'S THE THING THAT SOMETIMES PEOPLE THAT READ AND GET THE ENTIRELY OPPOSITE READING, FOR THAT REASON WE NEED TO MAKE SURE CRYSTAL-CLEAR WITH THIS CODE MEANS AND THAT'S GOING TO BE CLEAR I THINK WE HAVE CONSENSUS ON A DIFFERENT PEOPLE SAYING WE CAN CLEAR THE SOUTH, IS THAT GOOD?

>> I WOULD LIKE TO REITERATE WE PLANNED ON GOING TO THE CODE THIS FALL WE TALKED ABOUT THAT IN THE JOINT MEETING THIS WAS THE DIRECTION DURING THE JOINT MEETING REALLY GET TO THE CODE IN THE PROCESS AND THERE WILL BE PLENTY OF INPUT FROM THE PUBLIC THIS IS SOMETHING WE TALKED ABOUT ONCE A MONTH AGO.

I WANT TO REITERATE WE REALLY PLANNED ON DOING THIS.

>> WE WILL STAY THE COURSE. THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE.

>> THANK YOU FOR YOUR DIRECTION. >> FINALLY FOR DISCUSSION WE WILL END WITH 5.3 GOLF COURSE. BEFORE WE MOVE ON I DO HAVE ONE REQUEST MS. JULIE FOR ERIC PLEASE COME ON DOWN AND SPEAK ON THAT BEFORE WE MOVED TO THE NEXT AGENDA ITEM.

I ALMOST MISSED IT. >> SORRY I SHOULD GIVE YOUR T

TIME. >> JULIE, ANYBODY THAT'S BEEN SITTING TIME DRIVING AROUND CAN SEE THAT WERE LOSING THE FACE OF OUR COMMUNITY UNITS CHANGED REALLY QUICKLY AND THE UNIQUENESS OF OUR COMMUNITY IS BEING LOST.

I'VE DRIVEN DOWN SOUTH SEVENTH BETWEEN LOW, AND THE AUTO PARTS STORE AND WHEN YOU SEE WHAT'S BEING BUILT, TOWNHOMES, WHATEVER THE STRUCTURES ARE, THERE IS 20 OF THEM AND ALSO A PLACE ON 13TH TERRORISTS AND IF WE CONTINUE TO ALLOW, I'M NOT GOING TO CALL THEM BUILDING REGULATION BUT WITHOUT ANY GUIDANCE OF WHAT'S GOING INTO THE NEIGHBORHOOD IT'S DESTROYING THE QUALITY AND THE UNIQUENESS OF A LOT OF NEIGHBORHOODS AND WE NEED TO TAKE THAT INTO CONSIDERATION WHEN WE TALK ABOUT MORE DENSITY.

EVERYTHING THAT WE TALK ABOUT THAT INVOLVES DENSITY REVOLVES AROUND THE COMMUNITY'S UNIQUE NEEDS OR ON A BARRIER ISLAND WITH A HISTORIC CULTURE IN SPECIFIC NEIGHBORHOODS AND EACH ONE HAS ITS OWN IDENTITY AND WE NEED AGREED-UPON GUIDANCE AND THERE NEIGHBORHOODS CAN BE PROTECTED BY OFFERING INCENTIVES AND I HEARD ONE INCENTIVE BY GRAND RAPIDS INDIANA OR WHEREVER GRAND RAPIDS IS IN THEIR HAVING

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25-FOOT LOT AND WHAT THEY DECIDED TO DO, I HAVE NOT RESEARCHED IT BUT THEY HAVE A SET OF PLANS 10 OR 12 OR 20 AND WHEN YOU COME INTO THEIR COMMUNITY AND WANTING TO BUILD YOU CAN BE GIVEN BY THE CITY ONE OF THE PLANS ENCOURAGING YOU TO BUILD IN THE CHARACTER OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD WHERE YOUR BUI BUILDING. BY DOING THAT YOU GET A FREE PLAN IN YOUR IMPACT FEES ARE CUT DOWN IN YOUR INCENTIVIZED TO NOT BUILD SOMETHING THAT IS COMPLETELY OUT OF CHARACTER WITHIN THE NEIGHBORHOOD. IN THE FUTURE WHEN WE MARCH FORWARD AND HAVE THESE DISCUSSIONS THAT IS ONLY RIGHT THAT WE BRING OUT-OF-THE-BOX THINKING TO THE PROBLEM THAT WE COULD BE FACING. THAT IS OUR COMMUNITY AND THE CHARACTERS CAN BE OBLITERATED AND I DON'T THINK ANYBODY THAT

[5.3 GOLF COURSE AND PARKS AND RECREATION - PART TIME STAFF ]

LIVES HERE WANT THAT TO HAPPEN. >> THANK YOU.

>> ALRIGHT ITEM 5.3, THANK YOU MR. GEORGE, GOLF COURSE PARKS

AND RECREATION. >> I PUT THIS ON THE AGENDA FOR DISCUSSION DUE TO CONCERN OF WHAT WERE HAVING WITH THE AVAILABILITY OF STAFFING PRIMARILY AT THE GOLF COURSE IN THE PARKS AND WRECKED APARTMENT. PRIMARILY ON PART-TIME AND HOW WE HANDLE THAT. I HAVE TWO DIRECTORS, CATHERINE ROSSI AND DAVID MAY TO EXPLAIN WHAT THEIR ISSUES ARE IN THEIR

SOLUTION FOR THIS. >> WELCOME.

>> THINK YOU CHARLIE. >> YES YOU WELL MAY KNOW THE DEPARTMENT GOES THROUGH THE BUDGETARY PROCESS IN HEADCOUNTS ARE IDENTIFIED, EVERY DEPARTMENT HAS A SET HEADCOUNT ON HOW MANY PEOPLE WE CAN HIRE SO FOR FULL-TIME STAFF THAT MAKES PERFECT SENSE GREAT PART-TIME FOR THE GOLF COURSE IN PARKS AND BRACKET GETS A LITTLE TRICKY, PART-TIME EMPLOYEES WITH THE CITY CAN WORK UP TO 29 HOURS A WEEK IS BUDGETED THAT WAY AND 29 HOURS WE NEED THEM TO WORK 29 HOURS BUT OUR VALUED EMPLOYEES WE HAVE A LOT OF THEM CANNOT WORK 29 HOURS WERE IN MY SITUATION THEY WORK FOR US DURING THE SUMMER THAN THEY LEAVE WHEN THEY GO TO SCHOOL SO WORKING 29 HOURS A WEEK FOR STUDENT OR A SENIOR WHO IS RETIRED DOES NOT MAKE A LOT OF SENSE FOR PARKS AND RECREATION AND THE GOLF COURSE.

SO WE REALLY NEED THE ABILITY TO NOT TAKE UP A WHOLE HEADCOUNT BUT HIGHER PEOPLE THAT CAN WORK A FOUR HOUR SHIFT AND EVENING SHIFT, SUNDAY. WERE LOOKING FOR THE FLEXI

FLEXIBILITY. >> THANK YOU.

AT THE GOLF COURSE WE HAVE PEOPLE WORK TWO OR THREE DAYS THERE WORKING TWO DAYS A WEEK, ABOUT 14 HOURS SO THAT LEAVES 15 HOURS OF UNUSED TIME SO WERE MISSING THAT TIME FOR EACH ALLOCATED EMPLOYEE. THAT IS HUNDREDS OF HOURS OF MONTH THAT WERE LOSING AT THE GOLF CLUB AND PARKS AND.

, THAT AFFECTS HER SAFETY, HER SERVICE AND OUR ABILITY TO GROW THE BUSINESS. WERE NOT ASKING FOR MORE MONEY, THE BUDGET WILL STAY THE SAME WORD IS ASKING FOR MORE HEADCOUNT WITHIN THE DEPARTMENT SO WE CAN OFFER THE SERVICES AND

GROW THE BUSINESS PROPERLY. >> THANK YOU.

JUST SO WE CAN CLARIFY YOU'RE NOT ASKING FOR MORE MONEY OR MORE MAN HOURS YOU'RE JUST THINKING WE DIVIDE THE MAN-HOURS AMONGST MORE PEOPLE THAT WE CAN NUMBER STAFF.

>> THAT IS CORRECT EVERY CLUB I'VE EVER WORKED OUT HOW IT'S

STRUCTURED. >> TO HAVE A QUESTION FOR

MR. ROSS. >> TO SOBER PERFECTLY CLEAR YET TWO BUCKETS OF EMPLOYEES, YELLOW FULL-TIME EMPLOYEES THAT WORK OVER 29 HOURS, THEY GET BENEFITS, THE REASON 29 HOURS IS THE MAGIC NUMBER BECAUSE THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT THE STATE GOVERNMENT SAYS ABOVE THAT YOU HAVE TO GET BENEFITS AND BELOW

THAT YOU DON'T. >> THAT IS UNDERSTANDING BUT WE

HAVE FINANCING HR IN THE ROOM. >> THAT IS THE REASON.

YELLOW HEADCOUNT THERE FOR FULL-TIME AND YOU HAVE NO PROBLEM, WHAT YOU WANT TO DO, RIGHT NOW WHEN YOU HAVE A HEADCOUNT IN YOUR PART-TIME BUCKET OF PEOPLE, THAT PERSON IS DEDICATED TO WORK 29 HOURS AND YOU CAN'T USE THOSE HOURS TO HIRE SOMEBODY ELSE, WHAT YOU WANT IS TO CONSTRAINTS, NUMBER ONE YOU MEET YOUR BUDGETARY CONSTRAINT FOR THE POOL OF PART-TIME WORKERS AND NUMBER TWO ANY OF THOSE PEOPLE WILL NOT WORK MORE THAN 29 HOURS IN A PAY ... CORRECT.

>> THAT IS CORRECT. >> BASICALLY YOU WOULD LIKE TO

SEE THIS INSTITUTED IMMEDIATELY. >> I WOULD AGREE WITH YOU 100%,

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BASICALLY WHAT YOU ARE DOING, SOME PEOPLE WORK FOR HOURS, MI

CUT OFF. >> YOUR GOOD.

>> SOME PEOPLE WORK FOR OUR THE P.

AND SOME PEOPLE WORK 28 HOURS BUT YOU WANT THE DIVERSITY TO MIX-AND-MATCH AND DO WHATEVER YOU WANT.

>> YES, THAT IS TOTALLY APPROPRIATE.

>> YOU WEDDINGS, EVENTS AND DANGER TO BRING IN MORE PEOPLE AND I WOULD ASK MY FELLOW COMMISSIONERS TO SUPPORT THEM IN THE EFFORTS AND I THINK IT'S ESSENTIAL FOR THOSE TWO DEPARTMENTS TO BE ABLE TO MOVE FORWARD.

>> THANK YOU COMMISSIONER. >> IS THERE SOMETHING WE CAN DO

ABOUT CONSENSUS OR DO WE NEED. >> WE NEED A RESOLUTION.

>> CAN WE GET A RESOLUTION TO THIS EXTENT OF THE NEXT POSSIBLE

AGENDA. >> PERFECT.

>> JUST TO REITERATE TO THE PUBLIC, THEIR PEOPLE IN OUR COMMUNITY THAT WANT TO WORK TUESDAY NIGHT, THEY ONLY WANT TO COME WORK AND THAT WOULD REALLY HELP IF THEY COULD BUT RIGHT NOW THEY CANNOT. WE ARE GOING TO FIX THIS WITH THIS RESOLUTION. COMMISSIONER ROSS ONCE AGAIN.

>> WHY DO WE HAVE TO WAIT TO DO A RESOLUTION, WHY CAN'T THEY

START DOING THIS IMMEDIATELY? >> I THINK THEY CAN START IMPLEMENTING IT BUT WE NEED TO PUT YES A RESOLUTION.

>> THAT IS FINE BUT WE CAN IMPLEMENT IMMEDIATELY.

DOES ANYBODY HAVE AN OPPOSITION TO IMPLEMENTING IMMEDIATELY?

>> SEEN ON, GO RIGHT AHEAD. >> THANK YOU COMMISSIONER, MR. GEORGE AND MR. ROSS. THAT CONCLUDES OUR DISCUSSION

[6. CONSENT AGENDA]

SECTION. WERE GOING TO THE CONSENT AGENDA. KEEP IN MIND FROM EARLIER THAT WE ADDED A LOT TO THE CONSENT AGENDA.

WE HAVE TO GET TO MR. JACOBS IS COMING UP REAL SOON.

WE APPRECIATE YOU BEING HERE. BUT WE ADDED 7.1, .2, .3, FIVE, SIX, EIGHT ANTUN TO THE CONSENT AGENDA.

DO I HEAR ANYONE WISHING TO PULL THOSE OFF FOR THE TWO ITEMS THAT WERE ALREADY ON THE CONSENT AGENDA?

>> 7.4 IS ALSO A CONSENT.

>> 7.4 IS NOT. >> WITH THE ADDED WEIGHT

HERE MOTION QUESTIONING. >> I MOVED TO APPROVE.

>> SECOND. >> HERE MOTION IN THE

SECOND, ANY DISCUSSION. >> CITY CLERK PLEASE

CALL THE ROLL. >> COMMISSIONER ANTUN.

>> VICE MINISTER TO. >> YOU.

>> COMMISSIONER ROSS. >> YES.

[7.4 SOLE SOURCE VENDOR APPROVAL AND BUDGET TRANSFER - GUARDIAN FUELING TECHNOLOGIES ]

>> COMMISSIONER AYSCUE. >> MAYOR BEAN.

>> YES. >> THAT PASSES BY TO

MEXICO. >> REMOVE THE ITEM 7 POINTS OR, SOLE-SOURCE BUDGET TRANSFER GUARDIAN FUELING TECHNOLOGY. MR. GEORGE.

>> THIS IS FOR THE MARINA, THEY HAVE BEEN WORKING AT THE MARINA FOR QUITE SOME TIME, THIS IS ABOUT GETTING THE FUEL LINE REPAIRS DONE YES QUICK YES WE CAN.

INSTEAD OF HAVING TO OFFER PRICING TO GET THIS DONE YES QUICK YES POSSIBLE AND GET THE FUEL SYSTEM BACK UP AND RUNNING.

>> THANK YOU. >> TO A HERE MOTION.

>> MOVED APPROVE. >> OF A MOTION TO THE

SECOND. >> HAVE A QUESTION.

>> WE ARE CURRENTLY PUMPING DIESEL FUEL, CORRECT? , WHAT THIS CORRECTION WILL TAKE UP TO WERE LOOKING AT TWO MONTHS.

>> I THINK WERE CLOSER TO A MONTH IF THEY GET GOING. PART OF IT IS WAY THE PIPE WAS CONNECTED TO A CONJUNCTION BOX SO WE HAVE TO GET TO THE PROCESS.

WE ARE HOPING WE WILL GET ON IT YES FAST YES

WE CAN. >> THINK YOU.

>> PERFECT, SEE NO FURTHER DISCUSSION, CITY CLERK PLEASE CALL THE ROLL.

>> COMMISSIONER AYSCUE. >> YES.

>> VICE MAYOR STURGES. >> YES.

[7.7 VOLUNTARY ANNEXATION AGREEMENT - LOT 5 BERKLEY COURT]

>> COMMISSIONER ROSS. >> MAYOR BEAN.

>> YES, 5 - 0. >> LOT FIVE.

>> MS. GIBSON, I SAW YOU MOVE, MS. GIBSON,

WELCOME. >> I'M HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MIGHT HAVE.

>> WE ARE GOOD, ANY QUESTIONS FOR

MS. GIBSON. >> COMMISSIONER ROSS.

>> THIS IS A VACANT PARCEL, CORRECT?

>> IF THIS PROPERTY IS DEVELOPED IT WILL BE DEVELOPED UNDER THE COUNTY REGULATION FOR TREE PRESERVATION AND TREATMENT REMOVAL ENTRY PROTECTION DID EVERYTHING ELSE.

>> IT'LL REMAIN FULLY WITH THE NASSAU COUNTY

JURISDICTION. >> I WILL NOT SUPPORT THIS IN PLEA BECAUSE I AM WILLING TO SUPPORT ANYBODY COMING TO THE CITY AND GET CITY SOURCES IF THEY'RE WILLING TO COME INTO THE CITY JURISDICTION FOR THE SAME ROLES BUT THE COUNTY RULES FOR CLEARING THE LOT IN

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THE CITY RULES ARE COMPLETE A DIFFERENT ROUTE I WILL NOT SUPPORT IT.

>> MS. GIBSON. >> THE COUNTY RULES ARE MUCH MORE LAX THAN OUR CITY RULES.

IF WE DON'T APPROVE THIS WILL THEY BUILD A HOUSE ANYWAY? WHAT DO YOU THINK, WHAT WOULD STOP THEM WHY DO THEY NEED TO BE ANNEXED

IN THIS CASE? >> TO BE CLEAR THEY ARE REQUESTING WATER AND WASTEWATER SERVICES WHICH EXIST AND ALONG THE ROADWAY FRONTAGE RIGHT NOW SO THEY WOULD LIKE TO RELY ON OUR SERVICES TO SUPPORT THEIR SINGLE-FAMILY HOME, IF WE WERE TO NOT APPROVE IT THEY WILL POTENTIALLY BE FORCED TO DEVELOP SEPTIC AND WELL.

THANK YOU FOR THAT, FOR THAT REASON I DO SUPPORT THIS IS HOUSES GOING AND I THINK IT SHOULD GO IN ON THE CITY SEWER AND LET'S AVOID THE DANGEROUS SUBJECT PLAGUING OUR MARSH.

>> THANK YOU, MAYOR, I FEEL THE SAME WAY, EVERY HOUSE HAS BEEN DEVELOPED IN THE SUBDIVISION OTHER THAN ONE LOT, THIS IS ONE OF THE LAST TWO LOTS

AVAILABLE, CORRECT? >> THERE IS THREE TOTAL LOTS AVAILABLE. THIS IS ONE OF THE LAST ONES AND IT SITS DIRECTLY ON ADJOINING MARSH ENVIRONMENTAL AREA, CORRECT?

>> CORRECT. >> I WILL 100 SUPPORT WATER IN SEWER GOING TO THIS HOUSE.

I AM GLAD THAT YOU AND, I RECEIVED THREE PHONE CALLS ABOUT THIS LOT BEING VERY UPSET THAT THEY HAD TO GO THIS ROUTE ONE WAY OR ANOTHER AND I BELIEVE WE SHOULD SUPPORT THE HOMEOWNER IF THEY'RE REACHING OUT AND THEY WALKED WATER AND SEWER AND NOT PUT ANOTHER SEPTIC TANK ON A BARRIER ISLAND. I SUPPORT IT.

THANK YOU. >> MS. GIBSON DO YOU

HAVE SOMETHING? >> YES I WANTED TO CLARIFY THIS IS FOR THE WATER SERVICES ONLY THAT THEY WILL BE DEVELOPING ON SEPTIC.

WE DO NOT HAVE THE WATER AVAILABLE.

>> I WAS QUICKLY READING THROUGH AGAIN TO MAKE SURE I WAS CLEAR. I APOLOGIZE.

>> OH MAN. >> DO WANT TO CLARIFY

YOUR POINT. >> EVERYONE AT THE OTHER HOUSES IN THE SUBDIVISION HAVE A

SEPTIC TANK, CORRECT? >> YES, SIR.

>> IT IS ALSO HARD, WHAT WOULD THEY DO FOR WATER REGARDLESS, ALL THE OTHER HOUSES HAVE WATER.

>> THEY ARE RELYING ON CITY SERVICES FOR WATER FOR PORTABLE WATER, THEY MAY BE USING WELLS FOR YOUR GEISHA PURPOSES BUT I AM NOT SURE.

>> ALRIGHT, LET'S GO TO COMMISSIONER ROSS.

>> I WANT TO CLEAR UP, SEPTIC IS NOT DANGEROUS THE COUNTY HEALTH DEPARTMENT AND THE STATE HEALTH DEPARTMENT SAYS SEPTIC IS EQUAL TO CITY SEWER IF YOU MAINTAIN THE SEPTIC SYSTEM.

I'VE LOOKED ALL THE LITERATURE IN THAT AND MS. GIBSON IS AGREEING WITH ME, THAT IS NUMBER ONE BUT YOU HAVE TO MAINTAIN THE SUBJECT.

NUMBER TWO THESE PEOPLE, IT WOULD APPEAR, THAT'S A TERRIBLE THING TO SAY. IT WOULD APPEAR THAT IS A WORKAROUND SO YOU CAN GET, I DON'T KNOW WHY THEY'RE DOING IT BUT I'M OPPOSED TO IT BECAUSE THEY DON'T HAVE TO COME IN UNDER CITY RULES AND THEY WANT TO COME IN UNDER CITY RULES ON FILE THE TREE PROTECTION AND EVERYTHING ELSE I WOULD SUPPORT IT OTHERWISE I WILL NOT.

>> ALRIGHT COMMISSIONER ANTUN.

>> HAVE WE TREATED OTHER RESIDENTS IN THE SAME SUBDIVISION EQUALLY, HAVE WE ALLOWED THE ANNEXATION UNDER THE SAME TERMS.

>> THE MAJORITY OF THE PROPERTIES WITHIN THE SUBDIVISION DEVELOPED BEFORE THE CITY ACQUIRED THE WATER AND WASTEWATER SYSTEM THAT WE HAVE TODAY AND DID NOT SIGN AN AGREEMENT LIKE IS REQUIRED AT THIS POINT IN TIME.

THE REMAINING LOTS THAT EXIST ARE REQUIRED TO SIGN THIS SO WHEN THEY BECOME CONTINUOUS WE CAN ACCESS THEM INTO THE CITY.

I BELIEVE THE POINT MR. ROSS IS TRYING TO MAKE THAT THIS IS CONTIGUOUS WHICH MAKES IT A LITTLE CONFUSING. THE REASON WERE NOT MOVING FORWARD WITH THE ANNEXATION OF THIS PROPERTY ALONG WITH THE OTHER POTENTIAL TO WERE THREE LOTS THAT COULD COME IN IS UNDER FLORIDA STATUTE IS VERY CLEAR WHERE YOU SHOULD BE ANNEXING AND WE SHOULD AVOID ANNEXATION TO ME AND NOW THIS IS AN ATTORNEY QUESTION TO REALLY CLARIFY FURTHER. WE WOULD BE DOING SO IN A SERPENTINE PATTERN WHERE FINGERLIKE TYPE OF PATTERN WHERE WE WOULD EFFECTIVELY HAVE THREE FINGERS IN THE SUBDIVISION THAT WERE TRYING TO ANNEX AND THEY'RE ALL REALLY SPREAD APART SO I WOULD NOT FEEL CONFIDENT MOVING FORWARD WITH AN ANNEXATION OF THIS PROPERTY OR THE OTHER TWO AT THIS POINT TIME.

>> THINK YOU. >> OKAY, WE HAVE A MOTION IN THE SECOND, ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION?

>> CITY CLERK, PLEASE CALL THE VOTE.

>> WE DON'T HAVE A MOTION IN THE SECOND.

>> I MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE.

>> ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION?

[7.9 VOLUNTARY ANNEXATION AGREEMENT - 2633 AMELIA ROAD]

[01:10:04]

>> CITY CLERK PLEASE CALL THE VOTE.

>> COMMISSIONER AYSCUE. >> YOU.

>> VICE MAYOR STURGES. >> YES.

>> COMMISSIONER ROSS. >> NO.

>> COMMISSIONER ANTUN. >> NO.

>> MAYOR BEAN. >> THAT PASSES THROUGH - TO. VOLUNTARY ANNEXATION,

ONCE AGAIN MS. GIBSON. >> THIS IS A REQUEST FOR EXTENSION OF WATER AND WASTEWATER SERVICES, I DOUBLE CHECKED THIS TIME FOR A PERSONAL PROPERTY TOTALING OVER 1 ACRE OF LAND, THE PROPERTY WOULD REMAIN IN NASSAU COUNTY JURISDICTION AND SUBJECT TO THE RULES FOR ZONING AND LAND USE AND THIS HAS PORTIONS OF PRIOR LOTS 60 AND 61 THAT WAS ORIGINALLY PLOTTED IN 1910 IT'S NOT A NAMED SUBDIVISION IS LISTED YES A SECTION TOWNSHIP.

THAT IS WHAT I KNOW ABOUT THE PROPERTY.

>> THINK YOU MISS GIB GIBSON, DO I HEAR A

MOTION. >> MOVED APPROVE.

>> MOTION AND THE SECOND.

>> IT IS MEDIUM DENSITY IN NASSAU COUNTY.

>> DOESN'T THE HARDWARE STORE SIT ON THIS?

>> NO. >> YOUR THINKING OF THE ITEM BEFORE COMMISSIONER ROSS.

>> YOU'RE RIGHT. ALRIGHT I HAVE NUMBER

QUESTIONS ON THE SUN. >> YOU GOT ME CONFUSED.

CAN THIS LOT BE SUBDIVIDED.

>> POTENTIALLY UNDER NASSAU COUNTY REGUL

REGULATION. >> AGAIN THEY'RE NOT DEVELOPING UNDER CITY RULE.

>> CORRECT. >> THEY CAN SUBDIVIDE THE LOT IN THEY DON'T HAVE TO DO THAT.

>> THEY ARE NOT CONTIGUOUS TO THE

JURISDICTIONAL LIMITS. >> I WILL NOT SUPPORT

THE. >> THINK YOU.

>> ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION?

>> SEE NONE. PLEASE CALL THE ROLL.

>> COMMISSIONER AYSCUE. >> YOU.

>> VICE MAYOR STURGES. >> YES PIMA COMMISSIONER

[7.10 VOLUNTARY ANNEXATION AGREEMENT - 798 MAGNOLIA LANE + 797 OLD AMELIA ROAD]

ROSS. >> NO SPIN COMMISSIONER

[7.11 LEGISLATIVE PRIORITY RECOMMENDATION AND SUPPORT]

ANTUN. >> YES.

>> MAYOR BEAN. >> AT.

>> THAT PASSES 4 - ONE. NOW 7.10 WAS ON THE CONSENT AGENDA THAT BRINGS US TO 7.11 A RECOMMENDATION IN SUPPORT, WE WELCOME LAURA LIE JACOB AND BUDDY JACOBS DOWN TO THE PODIUM WERE VERY EXCITED TO HEAR THE RECOMMENDATIONS YES WELL.

>> GOOD EVENING MAYOR BEAN IN CITY COMMISSIONERS. THIS RESOLUTION IS ONE THAT IS FAMILIAR TO MOST OF YOU YES YOU VOTE ON THIS EACH YEAR, YOU BET ON THE PRIORITY FOR THE UPCOMING SESSION AND YOU RANK THEM IN THIS RESOLUTION PROVIDES DIRECTION TO THE CITY'S LOBBYING FIRM. IT PROVIDES DIRECTION TO THE LOCAL LEGISLATIVE DELEGATION WHO IS MEETING THIS YEAR WITH THEIR ANNUAL DELEGATION MEETING WEDNESDAY OCTOBER 25 FROM 3 - 5:00 P.M. IE CHAMBERS, AT THAT EVENT TYPICALLY IN YEARS PAST, MR. JACOBS REPRESENTS THE INTRODUCTORY REMARKS AND THE MAYOR WILL ADDRESS THE LOCAL DELEGATION. THIS YEAR WE IDENTIFIED FOUR TOPICS FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION AND I WOULD LIKE TO SHARE THAT THESE ARE LISTED IN ORDER BUT THIS IS THE STAFF PREPARED ORDER, PLEASE FEEL FREE TO EDIT, DELETE, REMOVE, ADD IT, WHATEVER HE WANTED WITH YOU LEGISLATIVE PRIORITIES. WE WILL GET RIGHT INTO THEM BRIEFLY, THE FIRST PRIORITY YOU WILL RECALL YOUR PRIORITY LAST YEAR THE SEAWALL FUNDING WHICH HAS A PRICE TAG OF ABOUT 60 MILLION IF WERE ABLE TO DO ALL THE PARTS OF IT.

THIS YEAR, THIS IS BEEN REFINED WITH INPUT FROM MR. JACOBS YES YOU KNOW MR. JACOBS FIRMS DOESN'T JUST DO TALLAHASSEE LOBBYING USE UNDER CONTRACT TO DO FEDERAL LOBBYING.

THE IDEA THAT WE GO FOR AN EARMARK A FEDERAL EARMARK OF 16 MILLION, EXCUSE ME OF 12 MILLION AND WE SPEAK FORMALLY IN STATE FUNDING OF A 25% MATCH ON THE EARMARK AND THIS WILL BE SUFFICIENT TO DO THE WHOLE PROJECT. YES YOU MAY RECALL EARMARKS, THEY DID AWAY WITH THEM IN 2011 THE U.S. CONGRESS COULD END THE EARMARKS, THEY REVIVED THEM IN 2021 SO WE WANT TO GET BACK IN THE PIPELINE AND GIVE THEM AN EFFORT.

IF THIS REMAINS A PRIORITY WERE LOOKING FORWARD TO AUTHORIZE THE FEDERAL EFFORT IN THE STATE EFFORT. IF THEY'RE SUCCESSFUL THE FEDERAL EFFORT ISN'T THEN WE WILL HAVE FUNDING TO MOVE FORWARD, THE SECOND PRIORITY IS A GRANT APPLICATION FOR 500,000 FOR THE LIGHTHOUSE, GENEROUSLY THE FLORIDA LIGHTHOUSE ASSOCIATION HAS PROVIDED 125,000 MATCH, IT IS A 625,000-DOLLAR PROJECT IN ANTICIPATE OUR APPLICATION WILL SCORE HIGH AND I FEEL VERY OPTIMISTIC ABOUT IT. BUT EVEN IF IT SCORES HIGH IN THE LEGISLATURE DOESN'T FUND THE PROGRAM YOU DO NOT GET FUNDED. LET ME ADD THAT IS A LOBBYING ITEM, THE THIRD ONE YOU WILL ALSO BE FAMILIAR WITH. IN 2019 THEY REMOVED A

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LOT OF OUR BEACH WALKOVER'S THEY WERE AT THE END OF THE SAFE LIFE INCENTIVE TIME YOU BEEN FUNDING THE BEACH WALKOVER'S REGULARLY AND PERIODICALLY FOLLOWING THE GUIDELINES OF THE CITIZEN BEACH ADVISORY COMMITTEE.

WERE ASKING IS A PRIORITY WHO WOULD BE ABLE TO CONTINUE THE EFFORT IN THE LAST FOURTH PRIORITY, MR. GEORGE ADDED THIS ONE DOWN CHAMPION VACATION AND PRESERVATION IMPROVEMENTS SEEKING A MILLION DOLLARS FOR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT ON CENTER STREET AND ADJACENT BLOCKS.

THIS IS AN ISSUE THAT YOU TALK A LOT ABOUT.

AND IF YOU WANT TO PURSUE THIS YES A PRIORITY WE WOULD NEED ADDITIONAL DIRECTION ON HOW YOU WOULD SPEND THE MILLION DOLLARS SO WE COULD PREPARE THE PAPERWORK.

YES YOU KNOW WE ARE HERE TO TAKE QUESTIONS.

THANK YOU. >> ANY QUESTIONS? I WILL START WITH VICE MAYOR.

>> LAURA LIE, NUMBER ONE I MUST NOT HAVE HEARD YOUR FIRST TOPIC OF THE 16 MILL, WHAT IS THAT PROJECT

EXACTLY. >> 'S CONSTRUCTION OF THE ENTIRETY OF THE RESILIENCY WALL.

>> THE SEAWALL, THAT'S WHAT I THOUGHT BASED ON THE NUMBERS, I JUST DID NOT HEAR IT.

I APPRECIATE THAT I THINK ALL THESE PROJECTS ARE WORTHY ESPECIALLY THE LIGHTHOUSE, I THINK THAT IS AN AWESOME THING WE NEED TO KEEP IT UP AND MAINTAIN IT YES WELL YES THE BOARDWALKS, I WOULD LOVE TO GET THE REST OF THE REMAINING ONES MISSING REBUILT, WE STILL FIELD CALLS THAT PEOPLE CAN'T GET TO THE BEACH AND A TARGET TO GET TO THE BEACH IN ALL THESE AREAS.

I APPRECIATE YOUR HARD WORK AND I CANNOT WAIT TO NOT LOOK FORWARD TO MOVING FORWARD WITH A LOT OF THESE PROJECTS AND I HOPE THAT WE GET ALL OF THEM, HOPEFULLY WE GET ALL OF THEM BUT WHATEVER WE GET WE GET. THANK YOU.

BE MY THINKING VICE MAYOR P COMMISSIONER

ROSS. >> I WOULD LIKE TO ADD ONE OTHER ISSUE. I LIVE IN THE HISTORIC DISTRICT, RECENTLY MY INSURANCE, HOMEOWNERS INSURANCE WAS $6000, THIS YEAR $10200.

I GOT INSURANCE AND THEN IT WAS 20 DAYS LATER THEY SENT AN INSPECTOR DESPITE THE FACT THERE HAD BEEN A FOUR-POINT INSPECTION DONE IS 70 LOOKED AT THE ROOF AND THEY SAID YOUR ROOF ONLY IT'S 12 YEARS OLD WE SEE GRANULARITY AND YOU HAVE TO REPLACE THE ROOF. AND I'M TALK TO MULTIPLE OTHER PEOPLE IN THE HISTORIC DISTRICT AND PLACES AND REPLACING ROOFS, IT LOOKS LIKE INSURANCE COMPANIES ARE GOING TO START REQUIRING ROOFS BE REPLACED EVERY 10 YEARS.

A NEW ROOF ON THE HOUSE IS $18000.

SO I WOULD LIKE WHAT CAN BE DONE REALLY FOR HOMEOWNERS IN THE CITY, ACTUALLY IN THE STATE ON THE INSURANCE I THINK IS A CRISIS HERE, THEY WILL NOT GIVE YOU INSURANCE IF YOU CANNOT GET IT FROM ANY INSURANCE COMPANY.

I'M JUST WONDERING IF WE CAN BRING THAT UP YES A TOPIC WHETHER THEY COULD COME UP WITH SOME WAYS OF LOOKING AT IT FOR FLORIDA HOMEOWNERS BECAUSE IS GOING TO DRIVE PEOPLE AWAY TO GET OUT OF THE STATE AND THE CITY.

PEOPLE CANNOT AFFORD THAT EVERY 10 YEARS.

>> THANK YOU. >> MS. JACOBS, IS 52 PROUD? IS THAT ACCEPTABLE HAD ON OR SHOULD WE RESHUFFLE, CAN WE GO WITH FIVE, DOES THAT MAKE SENSE?

>> I WANT TO POINT OUT YOU DON'T HAVE TO GO WITH THIS RANKING. BUT CONSISTENTLY OUR LEGISLATURES, OUR LEGISLATIVE DELEGATION IN ITS GREATNESS, LAST YEAR THEY WERE BOTH FRESHMEN IN THIS YEAR WE BID A COMMUNICATION MR. JACOBS HAS BEEN WITH THEM, WHATEVER LOCAL DELEGATION, HIS STAFF HAS REACHED OUT TO ME SO THEY'RE EAGER TO FIGHT FOR THIS AND THEY WERE CRUSHED LAST YEAR THAT HE DID NOT GET VETOED.

THEY WILL SAY WHAT IS YOUR NUMBER ONE PRIORITY AND THAT WILL BE THERE FOCUS, WE TEND TO WATCH THE OTHER THINGS THAT LOOK FOR AVENUES THE STATE REVENUES ARE UP VERY HIGH MUCH HIGHER THAN PROJECTIONS SO THAT PROBABLY GIVES US MORE OF AN OPPORTUNITY TO TRY TO GET TO BUT I BELIEVE FIVE IS A LOT, WHAT WOULD YOU SAY.

>> WE WELCOME MR. JACOBS TO THE PODIUM.

>> THANK YOU, I'VE NEVER HAD MY WIFE, MR. JACOBS BEFORE, I LIKE THAT. THAT IS RESPECTFUL FOR YOUR ELDERS I GUESS, I REALLY APPRECIATE BEING HERE AND I APPRECIATE YOUR TIMING, GO GATORS

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THEY NEED TO GO SOMEWHERE BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT GOING ANYWHERE RIGHT NOW AND I ENJOY BEING HERE WITH THE STAFF YOU HAVE A WONDERFUL STAFF, YOU ARE BLESSED WITH A GREAT STAFF AND IT'S GREAT TO SEE THESE PEOPLE YOU'RE VERY INTERESTED IN EVERYTHING THAT YOU ARE DOING. IT IS NICE TO HAVE PEOPLE WHO LIVE HERE IN INTERESTED IN ALL THAT IS GOING ON HERE. I JUST LOVE BEING HERE, PARTICULARLY. WHAT DO YOU SAY IS WHAT COMMISSIONER ROSS IS TALKING ABOUT SHOULD WE FOLLOW EVERYTHING IN THE LEGISLATURE WE DO THAT AND WE PARTICIPATE IN THOSE THINGS THAT ARE IMPORTANT TO YOU ALL YES FAR YES DOING AWAY WITH LOCAL RULE IN THE STATE WANTS TO TAKE EVERYTHING AWAY FROM YOU AND THEY THINK THEY'RE SMARTER THAN YOU ARE, THEY WANT TO DO THAT.

WE FOLLOW ALL THESE ISSUES IN THE INSURANCE ISSUE IS SOMETHING THAT THEY WILL BE FOLLOWING.

YOU DON'T HAVE TO MAKE IT A PRIORITY WORKING TO BE IN THE MIDDLE OF IT AND YES YOU KNOW EVERY FRIDAY WE SEND YOU A RESUME OF WHAT HAPPENED AT THE LEGISLATURE THAT WEEK AND WE GIVE YOU AN UP-TO-DATE EVERY FRIDAY AND WE HOPE YOU GOT ALL THE TIME, IT TELLS YOU EVERYTHING THAT'S GOING ON AND IT PERTAINS TO THE CITY.

I THINK CERTAINLY WHAT COMMISSIONER ROSS MEANS IT SHOULD BE SOMETHING WERE ALL CONCERNED ABOUT AND WE WILL BE THERE AND WE WILL BE CONCERNED ABOUT IT AND YES FAR YES THE PRIORITIES ARE CONCERNED, YES SHE SAID, I GOT A CALL TODAY FROM DEAN BLACK WHO WAS UPSET ABOUT THE VETO OF THE RESILIENCY WALL YEAR BEFORE THAT WE GOT A BILLION DOLLARS TO PLAN AND DO ALL THOSE KINDS OF THINGS AND OVER ALL THE YEARS WE HAVE NOT HAD TO WORRY ABOUT GOVERNORS VETOING, THAT HAPPENED AND I ALWAYS APPRECIATE NO YES AN ANSWER BECAUSE THEN YOU HAVE AN ANSWER AND THEN YOU MOVE ON. WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH WASHINGTON AND MY PARTNER.

WE HAVE TO FIND WAYS TO GET MONEY FOR ALL OF THIS. THE 4 MILLION WITH THE FEDERAL AND A SIGNIFICANT CONTRIBUTION TO GETTING THE WALL DONE IN.

WHAT SHE SAID ABOUT THE WHITE HOUSE, WHAT IS SIGNIFICANT THEN, SHE WORKED VERY HARD ON THAT AND NOW WE HAVE THE ASSOCIATION OF LIGHTHOUSES SAYING THIS IS SO IMPORTANT TO US IF WE GIVE $125,000. MY GOSH, THAT IS GOING FORWARD. THE OTHER PROJECT THAT WE ARE LOOKING AT, THE THING WE WERE TALKING ABOUT MAIN STREET ABOUT WHAT'S GOING ON IN THE CITY, THAT NEEDS A LOT OF HELP AND ASSISTANCE.

WE'RE GOING TO WANT TO BE A PART OF THE.

ASK. THERE ENDORSED BY THE DEPARTMENT OF ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTION BECAUSE IT PROTECTS THE BEACH RESILIENCY, THE RESILIENCY AGAINST THE OCEAN SO THOSE ARE VERY SIGNIFICANT. WE'VE GOT THOSE OVER MANY YEARS, WE GOT A LOT OF MONEY FOR WALKOVER'S AND I'M VERY ENCOURAGED BY THIS AND EXCITED TO BE PART OF THIS. YOU ALL UNDERSTAND VERY CLEARLY I AM IN SALES, NOT MANAGEMENT SO YOU TELL US WHAT YOU WANT AND WILL DO OUR VERY BEST TO GET IT, NO ENCOURAGED IN OUR LOCAL DELEGATION FOLKS ARE VERY ENCOURAGED AND I'M THINK THAT WE HAVE A GOOD OPPORTUNITY THIS YEAR AND YES SHE SAID, THE STATE HAS A LOT MORE MONEY THAN THEY HAD LAST YEAR END THEY HAD A LOT OF MONEY LAST YEAR. SO WE FEEL GOOD, NO GUARANTEES BUT WERE REALLY FEELING ENCOURAGED AND I APPRECIATE THE CHALLENGE AND YES YOU KNOW COMMISSIONER AYSCUE, YOU WERE THERE LAST YEAR AND YOU SEE WHAT WE HAVE TO DO TO GET IT DONE BUT WERE GLAD TO HAVE YOU WELCOME AND I HOPE ALL OF YOU WOULD THINK ABOUT DOING THAT. YOU REALLY SEE WHAT IS GOING ON UP THERE AND IN SOME WAYS IT'S SCARY AND IN SOME WAYS IT'S A GREAT OPPORTUNITY.

>> INC. MR. JACOBSON. I JUST WANT TO SAY AYE FULLY ENDORSE YOUR PLAN, I THINK THE FOUR PRIORITIES ARE IMPORTANT IN THIS COMMISSION CAN AGREE OUR TOP NUMBER ONE PRIORITY IS A FIGHT FOR ONE SINGLE THING THAT WOULD BE THE RIVERWALK SEAWALL PROJECT AND I KNOW YOU WERE WORKING VERY HARD ON THAT.

WITHOUT OBJECTION I WOULD SAY THAT'S A NUMBER ONE PRIORITY, DO YOU GUYS AGREE WITH

THAT? >> YES, SIR.

>> EXCELLENT STUFF, THANK YOU AGAIN LET'S GO

TO VICE MAYOR DAVIS. >> THANK YOU, MAYOR RATE I WOULD BE REMISS IF I WAS NOT THE SAME, NUMBER ONE YOU'RE DOING AN AWESOME JOB AND

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REPRESENTING OUR CITY AT THE HIGHEST LEVEL IN OUR STATE GOVERNMENT LOBBYING FOR US FOR FUNDS. I ONLY HEARD NOTHING BUT GOOD THINGS IN EXCELLENT ABOUT ALL YOUR WORK AND NUMBER TWO I WANT TO MAKE IT THIS YEAR.

I WANT TO COME HANG OUT WITH YOU AND SEE HOW HARD IT IS TO GET THE JOB DONE PERSONALLY.

EVERY TIME THAT IT COMES UP IT'S A BAD TIME WHEN I HAVE TO BE WITH THE FAMILY FIRST AND I HAVE TO GO WHERE MY FAMILY IS FIRST YES YOU WELL KNOW.

I'LL BE WITH YOU THIS YEAR ONE WAY OR ANOTHER.

>> WE LOOK FORWARD TO SEEING YOU AND BRING

YOUR RUNNING SHOES. >> ALRIGHT I'LL GET MY

EXERCISE IN. >> DO I HEAR A MOTION FROM THIS COMMISSION TO FORMALIZE THE LEGISLATIVE PRIORITIES YES PRESENTED BY

MS. JACOBS. >> MOVED TO APPROVE.

>> SECOND. >> WE HAVE A MOTION IN A SECOND, ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION?

>> SEEING NONE CITY CLERK PLEASE CALL THE

ROLL. >> COMMISSIONER AYSCUE.

>> SP TO COMMISSIONER ANTUN.

>> YES. >> COMMISSIONER ROSS.

>> SB BACK VICE MAYOR STURGES.

>> MAYOR DEAN. >> YES.

>> THAT PASSES BY - 0. >> THANK YOU I APPRECIATE THIS OPPORTUNITY GREATLY.

IT MEANS A LOT TO BE. THANK YOU.

[7.12 ROAD CLOSURE APPROVAL - OKTOBERFEST]

>> HEADING DOWN ITEMS 7.12 ROAD CLOSURE APPROVAL FOR OKTOB OKTOBERFEST.

WE HAVE CAITLIN RAMIREZ TO PRESENT.

WELCOME. >> GOOD EVENING CAITLIN RIVERA, AFTER LAST MEETING YOU ALL DISCUSSED WANTING FINAL SAY ON SPECIAL EVENTS THAT INCLUDE DOWNTOWN ROAD CLOSURES, TONIGHT I'M GOING TO RING THE ALARM AND BRING UP THE FIRST PRESENTATION THE. I TOLD THEM TO LAUGH.

ON OCTOBER 21 THE SAME DAY YES ALREADY APPROVED CAR SHOW WHICH INCLUDES MULTIPLE ROAD CLOSURES BETWEEN 8:00 A.M. AND 4:00 P.M., THE DOWNTOWN LOCAL BUSINESS AND THOUGH YOU WOULD LIKE TO HOST AN OKTOBERFEST EVENT FROM NOON - 9:00 P.M., THIS EVENT WILL INCLUDE A ROAD CLOSURE FROM THIRD STREET BETWEEN SENTER AND ASH, THE SPECIAL EVENTS COMMITTEE WHICH INCLUDES POLICE AND FIRE REPRESENTATION IS RECOMMENDING THIS SET UP BEHIND US AND WE APPROVE AND I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

>> ANY QUESTIONS FOR MS. RIVERA? >> VICE MAYOR.

>> I'M STARTING SYMBOLICALLY.

>> THIS IS IN CONJUNCTION, THE SAME TIME THAT THE CAR SHOW WOULD BE SO IT WOULD NOT INTERFERE WITH ANY OTHER BUSINESSES OTHER THAN THE ROAD THAT WOULD ALREADY BE CLOSED.

>> THIS ROAD IS IN ADDITION TO THE APEX CAR SHOW DID NOT CLOSE THE STREET, THIS WOULD BE IN ADDITION BUT ALL THE ROADS SURROUNDING IT ARE

CLOSED. >> THAT'S MY ONLY QUESTION. THANK YOU.

>> AUDIT. >> COMMISSIONERS I HAVE BEEN THINKING ABOUT THIS, THERE IS TWO THINGS. I UNDERSTAND STAFF ARE WORKING ON A REVAMPING AM I CORRECT.

>> I AM FAIRLY NEW. SO IS KRISTIN WHO IS HELPING ME. WE ARE LOOKING AT EVERYTHING, WHEN YOU ARE NEW YOU GET FRESH EYES ON SOMETHING SO WE ARE LOOKING TO REVAMP BUT

SLOWLY. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

>> COMMISSIONERS WHAT I AM THINKING, LET'S DO A MOTION BEFORE WE HAVE DISCUSSION.

>> I MAKE A MOVE TO APPROVE IT.

>> WAVE MOTION AND THE SECOND, MY THOUGHTS ON THIS, NUMBER ONE THIS ROAD IS ESSENTIALLY CLOSED ANYWAY ON THIS DATE THE SURROUNDING ROADS ARE CLOSED, THEREFORE WE CAN MAKE THIS WORK HERE IN THIS GROUP OF LOCALS DID ASK AND THEY ASKED BEFORE WE REVAMPED AN HOUR WORKING ON REVAMPING HOPEFULLY BY THE NEXT TIME THIS COMES UP WILL HAVE NEW GUIDELINES IN ORDINANCE AND NOT GRANDFATHERING ANYONE AND WE ARE SIMPLY SEEING A PROPOSAL AND WE HAVE TO TREAT IT LIKE THE CURRENT RULES SAY, THAT'S WHAT IT IS.

WITH THE CURRENT PROPOSAL AND GIVEN THE FACT THAT THE SURROUNDING ROADS ARE REALLY CLOSED I THINK I HAVE TO SUPPORT THIS I HAVE TO GO YES FOR THIS ONE TIME.

>> ANY OTHER THOUGHTS? >> VICE MAYOR.

>> BRIEFLY I WILL JUST SAY IN THE PART OF REVAMPING I WILL BRIEFLY SPEAK ABOUT THAT I THINK THE ORGANIZATION OR WHOEVER IT IS, THEY NEED TO GET ON THE BOOKS AT THE BEGINNING OF THE YEAR, WHENEVER WE KNOW THE ROAD CLOSURES, FOR THE MIDDLE OF THE YEAR IN ITS JUNE OR JULY I DON'T THINK THAT'S TIME FOR 70 TO COME UP THAT I WANT TO CLOSE THE ROAD NEXT WEEK OR THIS IS WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN. I'M GIVING YOU THIS INPUT AND THIS IS MY VISION.

IF SOMEBODY WANTS A ROAD CLOSE AND THEY WANT AN

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EVENT THEY NEED TO PLAN WELL IN ADVANCE.

NUMBER TWO WITH STAFF'S APPROVAL OBVIOUSLY WE WANT TO KEEP A PRIORITY TO ANYTHING THAT THE CITY WOULD DO OR IF THE CITY HAS OTHER THAN THAT I THINK IT IS GOING TO BE PRETTY DIVINE ABOUT WHO CAN APPLY AND WHAT THEY CAN APPLY FOR.

THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU VICE MAYOR.

>> JUST TO BACK THAT UP, I KNOW WE TALKED ABOUT IT ON A FEE SCHEDULE ASPECT YES THE COST AND HOW IT WAS A LOW COST TO SHUT DOWN AN ENTIRE CITY ROAD, I'M PLEASED TO HEAR THAT WERE MOVING FORWARD WITH UPDATING THE ORDINANCE AND I DON'T SEE AN ISSUE WITH THIS PARTICULAR ONE IT SOUNDS LIKE A GREAT EVENT.

BUT MOVING FORWARD AND LOOKING FORWARD TO SEE HOW THE ORDINANCE PLAYS OUT.

>> THANK YOU COMMISSIONER AYSCUE I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO IT. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND THE WORK ON FIXING THE ORDINANCE.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH. WITH NO FURTHER DISCUSSION, CITY CLERK PLEASE CALL THE ROLL.

[7.13 AGREEMENT APPROVAL - AT&T]

>> VICE MAYOR STURGES. >> YES.

>> COMMISSIONER ANTUN. >> YES.

>> COMMISSIONER AYSCUE. >> YES.

>> MAYOR DEAN. >> YES.

>> THIS PASSES 5 - 0. ITEMS 7.13 AGREEMENT APPROVAL WITH AT&T. MR. GEORGE PLEASE

PRESENT. >> THIS RELATES TO THE FIRE STATION NUMBER TWO CONSTRUCTION PRESENTLY THERE IS AN FPU POWER CALL THAT ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF AIRPORT ROAD RIGHT AT THE ENTRANCE, THE PROPOSED ENTRANCE TO APPARATUS BAY ON THE FIRE STATION FPU HAS MOVED THEIR LINES AWAY FROM THAT SO ALL THERE IS LEFT.

THERE IS A PICTURE. >> SHE JUST DISAPPEARED.

>> BASICALLY. >> WE WILL GET THE

PICTURE IN A MINUTE. >> THAT CABLE IS AN AT&T CABLE THAT GOES FROM THE ENTRANCE TO THE AIRPORT ROAD AT THE AIRPORT TO A CELL TOWER THAT IS WELL TO THE WEST. WE NEED THE LINE MOVED, AT&T INDICATED THEY WILL NOT MOVE IT.

THEY WANT TO MOVE IT ACROSS THE STREET, DIRECT. SO THERE WILL NOT BE AN OVERHEAD ON THERE. THEY WANT $30000 ROUGHLY TO TAKE THE LINE OFF, REMOVE THE REMAINING POOL AND DIRECT. THE LINE.

IT'S GOING TO COME OUT OF THE FIRE STATION BUDGET IF WE PAY THIS. IT'LL MAKE IT A LITTLE BIT OVER THE ENTIRE BUDGET BEFORE 4.85 BUDGET AND IT WON'T BE THAT MUCH.

WE NEED TO GET THIS GOING SO WE CAN CONTINUE WORKING IN THE FIRE STATION.

>> ALRIGHT, THANK YOU MR. GEORGE, LET'S GO TO

VICE MAYOR STURGES. >> THANK YOU MARY.

CHARLIE HOW MUCH IS IT GOING TO PUT US OVER BUDGET BECAUSE STRICTLY YOU KNOW I'M THE ONE THAT'S HARPED ABOUT THE BUDGET ABOUT THE FIRE STATION FROM DAY ONE THAT I WANT TO COME IN BUDGET INCOME AND BUDGET, HOW MUCH ARE WE

TALKING ABOUT. >> LESS THAN 1%.

>> OKAY, WHAT DOES THAT EQUATE TO, LESS THAN 1%?

>> 30000. >> IT'LL PROBABLY KICK

US OVER 10000. >> $10000, OKAY.

>> UNFORTUNATELY, IF IT IS SOMETHING THAT WE HAVE TO DO IN THERE IS NO OTHER OPTION, I REALLY BELIEVE WE NEED TO GO OVER BUDGET $10000 AND DO IT IF THAT IS WHAT IS GOING TO COST TO GET THE JOB DONE. UNFORTUNATELY THERE ARE UNFORESEEN THINGS AND I'M THE FIRST ONE THAT WANTS THIS JOB BECOME INTO BUDGET.

DID YOU CHECK WITH THE FIRE CHIEF OR ANYBODY ELSE TO SEE IF THERE'S ANYWHERE ELSE THEY COULD

CUT $10000 TEMPORARILY. >> WERE LOOKING TO DO A BUDGET AMENDMENT TO COVER THAT.

WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON THIS SINCE JANUARY WITH FPU AND ATT UNITS ALONG STRUGGLE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHO IS ACTUALLY ON THE LINE OR ON THE POLE, WHO IS RESPONSIBLE FOR THE POLE AND WHO'S RESPONSIBLE FOR MOVING IT, WERE AT A POINT THAT WE'VE GOT TO MOVE FORWARD.

>> I UNDERSTAND AND SECONDLY I WANT TO BRING UP ONE POINT, WHAT WAS THE BUDGET COST OF THE NEXT BID THAT WAS ABOVE THIS BID.

>> ORIGINALLY? >> IT WAS OVER $500,000

MORE. >> WE ARE UNDER BUDGET FOR BUILDING THIS FIRE STATION ANYWAY LOOKING

AT IT AT THE LARGE. >> IF YOU CONSIDER THE BUDGET BEING THE NEXT BITTER, WE'RE RIGHT ON WHERE WE HAVE BUDGETED YES A CITY BUDGETED

STARTED. >> THANK YOU CHARLIE.

>> COMMISSIONER AYSCUE. >> MAYBE THE PICTURE WILL SHOW IT, I WANTED TO CLARIFY.

THERE IS ONE POLE INJURED LOOKING AT THIS

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NOW, THERE IS TWO MORE POLES TO THE RIGHT.

OUT-OF-THE-WAY, WHAT FPU HAS DONE HAS DROPPED THE LINES AND GONE UNDERGROUND, WHAT IS HAPPENED OVER HERE THEY'VE GONE UNDERGROUND THAT WAY, THEY WILL NOT INTERFERE WITH THE LADDER TRUCK AT THE TOWER.

>> THAT WAS MY BIGGEST CONCERN IS THE TRAINING

TOWER. >> THAT'S WHAT FIRST BROUGHT ALL THIS CONVERSATION WAS A CONCERN WITH THE LADDER TRUCK DEALING WITH THE TRAINING TOWER. IN THE SAFETY OF THAT.

>> COMMISSIONER ROSS. >> I HAVE A LITTLE DIFFERENT SPIN ON THIS. THAT IS THE PICTURE IN WHICH YOU SPOKE, WHAT WERE TALKING ABOUT IS THE CABLE WHICH IS AN AT&T CABLE.

SPU HAS A FRANCHISE REPLACING THE UTILITY POLE FOR THE ELECTRICAL TRANSMISSION OF PUBLIC RIGHT OF WAYS. FPU PLACED THE UTILITY POLE YEARS AGO IN AN AREA NEEDED TO EGRESS THE NEW FIREHOUSE. THE FIREHOUSE CANNOT BE COMPLETED BECAUSE THE POLE IS REMOVED AND YOU CAN SEE IT IN THE DRIVEWAY AND THEY CAN'T GET FIRETRUCKS UNDER IT. AT&T PLACED CABLES ON THE POLE IT'S CALLED AN ACCESSORY USE THE CITY NEVER GRANTED PERMISSION FOR THIS USE.

AT&T AND FPU HAVE REFUSED TO PROVIDE THE CITY WITH ANY AGREEMENT THAT AT&T MAY HAVE WITH FPU ALLOWING AT&T AND ACCESSORY USE OF THE FPU UTILITY POLE, AND OTHER WORDS WE GAVE PERMISSION FOR FPU TO USE THE POLE, THE CITY NEVER GAVE PERMISSION TO ANYBODY ELSE TO USE THAT YES AN ACCESSORY USE. IT IS ASSUMED BUT NOT VERIFY THE FPU STILL OWNS THE POLE BUT UNDER THEIR CONTRACT I RECEIVED AN E-MAIL THAT THEY MAY HAVE GIVEN THAT POLE ALREADY TO AT&T.

THE FPU FRANCHISE AGREEMENT STATES IT IS EXPRESSLY UNDERSTOOD AND AGREED IF ANY POLE OR POLES ERECTED BY THE GRANTEE, FPU SHALL UNREASONABLY INTERFERE WITH THE RIGHT OF PUBLIC OR PRIVATE BIDDING PROPERTY OWNERS, THAT WOULD BE THE FIRE STATION THAT UPON DUE PROTEST AND WRITING WHICH THE CITY GAVE THEM IN JANUARY BY SUCH OWNER, THE CITY, THE GRANTEE, FPU SHALL RELOCATE SET POLES OR POLES AT SOME SATISFACTORY AT FPU'S OWN EXPENSE. IN OUR FRANCHISE, FPU IS SUPPOSED TO BE RELOCATING NOT.

YES PER REQUEST TO THE CITY, FPU HAS REMOVED ITS ELECTRICAL TRANSMISSION LINES FROM THE POLE ON TOP OF THE POLE, THAT POLE NEEDS TO BE HIGHER THERE WAS ELECTRICAL LINES ABOVE THAT WHICH YOU CANNOT SEE THERE IS ELECTRICAL LINES THAT YOU CAN BARELY SEE UP THERE BUT THEY ARE OUT-OF-THE-WAY. THEY TOOK THEIR LINES OFF, PUT THEM OVER AND THEN THEY TOP THE POOL.

HOWEVER, AT&T'S CABLE STILL REMAINS ON THE TOP WHOLE IN THEIR BLOCKING EGRESS AND PREVENTING OPENING THE NEW FIRE STATION.

SINCE JANUARY OF 2023 AT&T IS AWARE OF AT&T CABLES THAT NEED TO BE MOVED SO THE POLE CAN BE REMOVED TO ALLOW COMPLETION OF ACCESS TO NEW FIREHOUSE. INSTEAD OF REMOVING THE CABLE, AT&T SET AN AGREEMENT TO THE CITY DEMANDING APPROXIMATELY $50000 TO RELOCATE THE CABLES, THE DEMAND HAS NOW BEEN DECREASED TO APPROXIMATELY $30000. AT&T WILL NOT REMOVE THE CABLES UNTIL THEY RECEIVE A SIGNED AGREEMENT GUARANTEE PAYMENT, NO MONEY, NO RELOCATION OF CABLES. THE POLE IS ON AIRPORT PROPERTY, NOT A PUBLIC RIGHT-OF-WAY.

AT&T NOR FPU HAVE AN EASEMENT THAT IS EVER BEEN GRANTED FOR THE POLE TO BE THERE THE POLE IS TRESPASSING ON CITY PROPERTY.

, FLORIDA STATUTE 337.401 ALLOWS A MELISSA POLITY TO REQUIRE A PROVIDER OF COMMUNICATION SUCH YES AT&T TO REGISTER WITH THE MUNICIPALITY PRIOR PLACING FACILITIES IN THE CITY RIGHT AWAY. CHAPTER 71 OF THE CITY ORDINANCE REQUIRES COMMUNICATION SERVICES TO REGISTER WITH THE CITY.

THE ORDINANCE WAS ADOPTED IN 2001 AND SUBSEQUENTLY BEEN AMENDED.

THE CITY HAS BEEN UNABLE TO PRODUCE ANY RECORD THAT AT&T EVER REGISTERED WITH THE CITY IS REQUIRED BY THE CITY ORDINANCE AND FOR THE STATUTE. FLORIDA STATUTE 337.40 TITLED INTERFERENCE CAUSED BY UTILITY EXPENSES SECTION ONE AND A PERTINENT PART YES A UTILITY SUCH YES AT&T THAT IS PLACED UPON UNDER OVER WITHIN THE RIGHT-OF-WAY AND LIMITS OF A PUBLIC ROAD IS FOUND BY THE AUTHORITY IN INTERFERING IN ANY WAY AND CONTINUOUS USE AND MAINTENANCE, THE UTILITY OWNER UPON 30

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DAYS WRITTEN NOTICE THEY HAVE BEEN KNOWN SINCE JANUARY 2 ITS AGENTS BY THE AUTHORITY INITIATE THE WORK NECESSARY TO ALLEVIATE THE INTERFERENCE AT ITS OWN EXPENSE.

AND THERE ARE SEVERAL EXCEPTIONS.

THE CABLES MUST BE USED SO THE NEW FIREHOUSE CAN BE COMPLETED, AT&T REFUSES TO REMOVE AT&T CABLES AND THEN PREVENTING THE COMPLETION OF THE NEW FIREHOUSE AND DEMANDING THE PROMISE OF A PAYMENT OF $30000 PRIOR TO REMOVING AT&T CABLES. IN VIOLATION OF STATE AND CITY LAWS AT&T REFUSED TO REMOVE THE ACCESSORY CABLES THAT ARE INTERFERING WITH THE COMPLETION AND OPENING OF THE NEW CITY FIRE STATION. I WOULD PROPOSE THAT WE DIRECT THE CITY ATTORNEY TO WRITE A LETTER TO AT&T DEMANDED THAT THE NECESSARY CABLES BE REMOVED AND 30 DAYS AT NO COST TO THE CITY.

IF THEY'RE UNWILLING TO COMPLY THEN WE FILE CITY CIVIL ACTION FOR TRESPASS, IMMEDIATE EJECTMENT, A JUDGMENT COMPENSATORY DAMAGES, AND PUNITIVE DAMAGES FOR FAILING TO REMOVE AT&T'S ACCESSORY CABLES AND ALSO NOTE THAT THE CITY DOES OVER $100,000 OF BUSINESSES WITH AT&T AND I WOULD ASK THE CITY MANAGER INVESTIGATE REPLACING THOSE CONTRACTS WITH OTHER VENDORS WHEN LEGALLY POSSIBLE AND FINANCIALLY TO THE CITY. I WILL NOT SUPPORT GIVING MONEY TO SOMEBODY THAT I VIEW, IS NOT EXTORTION BUT IT'S CLOSE TO IT.

IT DOES NOT MEET THE LEGAL DEFINITION OF EXTORTION BUT THEY'RE BASICALLY HOLDING US HOSTAGE AND I DON'T WANT TO NEGOTIATE WITH PEOPLE WHO ARE DOING THE. THAT IS MY THOUGHT.

>> THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER ROSS. >> CAN YOU PLEASE GO INTO THE REGULATIONS THAT AT&T ARE UNDER AND THAT WE ARE UNDER REGARDING CABLE

COMPANIES SUCH YES AT&T. >> COMMISSIONER ROSS GAVE YOU STATUTE 337401.403 AND I SPOKE TO THE ATTORNEY FOR AT&T LAST WEEK ON THURSDAY AFTERNOON AND ANOTHER PERSON FROM AN AT&T, THEY BELIEVE THERE HASN'T BEEN ENOUGH TIME BETWEEN NOW AND THEN COMMISSIONER ROSS HAS BEEN WORKING ON THIS FOR A LONG TIME IT IS FORMULATED HIS OPINION, ACCORDING TO AT&T THEY DO HAVE A RIGHT. THEY FIT UNDER A THROUGH J SECTION OF THIS TELECOMMUNICATION ACT THAT IS EMBEDDED IN HERE ESPECIALLY WHEN YOU SAY GO INTO A CELL TOWER THAT MAKES A BIG DIFFERENCE THEN IF IT'S JUST ELECTRIC UTILITY.

WITHOUT GOING INTO A LOT TONIGHT AND BELABOR YOU ALL TONIGHT, AT&T HAS A TOTALLY DIFFERENT VIEW OF THIS, THEIR ATTORNEY SAYS THERE IS AN ATTORNEY FEE PROVISION IF THE CITY DOES NOT PREVAIL THE CITY CAN BE SUBJECT TO ATTORNEYS FEES, COSTS, NO PUNITIVE DAMAGES UNLESS THERE IS SOME TYPE OF TRESPASS THAT IS INTENTIONAL AND RECKLESS. WE WILL DO WHATEVER YOU CAN I'M A LEGAL ASSISTANT AND I CANNOT PROSECUTE A CASE AGAINST AT&T ALONE AND I WOULD SAY A COST-BENEFIT ANALYSIS OF THE SITUATION SAYS YOU NEED TO APPROVE THIS AGREEMENT SO WE CAN GET A FIRE STATION IN PLACE AND IF YOU WANT TO GO TO BAT WITH AT&T WE CAN DO THAT BUT WE HAVE OTHER ISSUES IN THE MUCH BIGGER ISSUE AROUND THE CITY WITH REGARD TO POLES CUT IN HALF, I WOULD NOT GO ABOUT OVER 30000-DOLLAR BILL, THEY DO HAVE TO KEEP THE BILLS AND I ASSUME THE COST DOWN BECAUSE THEY KNEW THAT YOU WERE CHECKING IN DOING YOUR RESEARCH BECAUSE OF THE STATUTE IF YOU RECALL THERE IS A PROVISION ACTUAL COST CAN BE CHARGED TO THE CITY, THAT IS PROBABLY WHY THEY REDUCE THEIR BILL. IT IS MY ADVICE TO YOU NOT JUST YOUR ATTORNEY-AT-LAW BUT COUNSELOR AT LAW YOU MAY OR MAY NOT HAVE AN ACTION BUT IS CERTAINLY NOT GOING TO GET A FIRE STATION DONE ANY SOONER. IT'S GOING TO TAKE TIME EVEN AN INJECTION TAKES TIME THIS IS NO PUBLIC SAFETY EMERGENCY, WE HAVE ANOTHER FIRE STATION OPERATING RIGHT NOW, I DON'T THINK A COURT WOULD GRANT AN INJUNCTION SO WILL BE MONTHS DOWN THE ROAD IN LITIGATION WITH AT&T WHICH IS FINE THEY COULD BE WRONG BUT SO COULD BE I DON'T THINK IT'S A SLAMDUNK AND AT&T MADE SURE IN A NICE WAY, THERE WAS NO BULLYING WHATSOEVER AND THEY BELIEVE UNDER THE STATUTE THEY HAVE A RIGHT TO BE THERE WHETHER OR NOT THERE IS AN EASEMENT THERE COULD BE EASEMENT. WE DON'T KNOW WE NOT HAD

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ENOUGH TIME. >> I ASKED FOR THAT

MONTHS AGO. >> I SOLD AT&T REQUEST A

COUPLE WEEKS AGO. >> IN ANY CASE MY ADVICE TO YOU IS TO WAIVE THE COST VERSUS THE BENEFIT FOR $30000 AND WE HAVE BUDGETED MONEY FOR IT.

I THINK I WOULD GET THE LINE MOVED AND IF WE NEED TO FIGURE OUT AREAS I THINK WE COULD LOOK AT A BIGGER INVESTIGATION OF WHERE THERE IS POLES I HAVE NOT NOTICED HIM BUT I KNOW COMMISSIONER ROSS HAS SAID THE POLLS LOOK LIKE METAL OR CONCRETE THEIR GIANTS AND NEXT TO THEM AT&T AND COMCAST ARE THERE ACCORDING TO AT&T THAT IS ON A ROTATION THOSE AIRLINES THEY DO NOT INTEND LONG-TERM TO KEEP HER BUT IT TAKES TIME FOR THE CONTRACTORS TO GET AROUND TO IT.

THAT'S WHERE WE ARE. >> I APPRECIATE THAT.

HERE WE ARE COMMISSIONERS WHAT I WAS TRYING TO AVOID IN THE PARTICULAR CONVERSATION WE HAVE MULTIPLE GOOD PARTNERS IN THE CITY AND WE THREW AROUND VIBRATORY RHETORIC AGAINST DIFFERENT PEOPLE THAT MIGHT HAVE A SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT OPINION NOT THAT WE'RE GOING TO DO ANYTHING BUT THE FACT THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IT CASTING DIFFERENT GROUPS OF PEOPLE IN BAD LIGHT IS NOT A GOOD LOOK PRESS AND THAT'S NOT SOMETHING I WANTED TO DO AND THAT'S SOMETHING THAT I HOPE WE COULD NOT DO HERE IN PUBLIC AND IS NOT SOMETHING I WAS HOPING TO DO TONIGHT. WE TALKED ABOUT ANYWAY 7.14 IS OUT OF THE AGENDA BUT 7.13 IS AND JUST TO KEEP IN MIND A YES VOTE APPROVES THE AGREEMENT WITH AT&T. A YES VOTE MOVES FORWARD TO THE FIRE STATION TO GET THE PROJECT ON AND I'M VOTING YES I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO DOING. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION.

>> I WOULD LIKE TO COMMENT ABOUT BEING GOOD NEIGHBORS IN TALKING ABOUT THAT.

AT&T HAS NOT BEEN A GOOD NEIGHBOR THEY NOT FOLLOW THE LAW AND NOT DONE WHAT THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO DO, THEY HAVE NOT BEEN A GOOD NEIGHBOR AND I'VE HAD MULTIPLE DISCUSSIONS WITH THEM, THE ENGINEERING STAFF IS BEEN WONDERFUL NICE BUT THEY WILL ENGAGE IN A CONVERSATION.

I DO NOT BELIEVE THEY HAVE BEEN A GOOD NEIGHBOR TO US AND I WOULD TAKE MY BUSINESS AWAY FROM THEM IF I WAS A PRIVATE CITIZEN AND THIS HAPPENED TO ME I WOULD TAKE MY BUSINESS AND I THINK THE CITY SHOULD TO.

THAT IS MY OPINION. >> THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER ROSS.

ALRIGHT. >> I'M READY TO CALL THE VOTE AND BEFORE I CALLED ABOUT, THANK YOU POINT TAKEN. I WILL FINISH BY SAYING COMMISSIONER ROSS IS A SINGLE COMMISSIONER AND DOES NOT SPEAK FOR THE ENTIRE CITY OF FERNANDO BEACHY CAN SPEAK FOR HIMSELF YES A COMMISSIONER BUT LET'S LET THIS COMMISSIONS BECAUSE WELL. PLEASE CALL THE VOTE.

>> WE DID A MOTION AND A SECOND.

>> PLEASE CALL ABOUT. >> COMMISSIONER AYSCUE.

>> VICE MINISTER TO. >> COMMISSIONER ANTUN.

[8. ORDINANCE - FIRST READING]

>> YES. >> COMMISSIONER ROSS.

>> NO. >> MAYOR BEAN.

>> YES. >> WE HAVE ORDINANCE FIRST READING A .1 CLASSIFICATION UPDATE WE

INVITE MS. TAMMY BOCK. >> ORDINANCE 2023-33 AMENDING THE PAIN CLASSIFICATION PLAN ESTABLISHED BY ORDINACE 2022.0 EIGHT PURSUANT TO CHARTER SECTION 30 AND CODE OF ORDINANCE SECTION 62-247 PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY AND PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE SHOULD.

>> DO I HEAR A MOTION. >> MOVED TO PROVE.

>> I HEAR A MOTION IN THE SECOND, ANY

DISCUSSION? >> SEE NONE, PLEASE CALL

THE ROLL. >> COMMISSIONER ANTUN.

>> YES. >> VICE MAYOR STURGES.

>> YES. >> COMMISSIONER ROSS.

[9.1 TITLE CORRECTION - FLUM ASSIGNMENT ]

>> YES. >> MAYOR BEAN.

>> YES THAT PASSES 5 5 - 0.

ORDINANCE THIRD READING. >> ORDINANCE 2023.17 ASSIGNING FUTURE LAND USE MAP OF CONSERVATION FOR PROPERTY LOCATED ON NORTH 14TH STREET TOTALING APPROXIMATELY .30 ACRES OF LAND, PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY AND PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE.

PLEASE OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING.

>> PUBLIC HEARING IS OPEN WOULD ANYBODY LIKE TO SPEAK ON THIS? , SEE NONE, THE PUBLIC HEARING IS CLOSE, DO I HEAR A MOTION.

>> MOVED TO PROVE. >> I HEAR A MOTION IN THE SECOND, ANY DISCUSSION?

[9.2 TITLE CORRECTION - ZONING ]

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>> SEE NONE, CITY CLERK PLEASE CALL THE ROLL.

>> COMMISSIONER ANTUN. >> YES.

>> VICE MAYOR STURGES. >> YES.

>> COMMISSIONER AYSCUE. >> YOU.

>> COMMISSIONER ROSS. >> YES.

>> THAT PASSES 5 - 0. >> ORDINANCE 2023-18 ASSIGNING A ZONING CATEGORY OF CONSERVATION FOR PROPERTY LOCATED ON NORTH 14TH TOTALING APPROXIMATELY 30 ACRES OF LAND PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY AND PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE. PLEASE OPEN THE PUBLIC

HEARING. >> THE PUBLIC HEARING IS OPEN, ANYONE WANT TO SPEAK?

>> SEE NONE. DO I HEAR A MOTION.

>> ME TO PROVE. >> SECOND.

>> ANY DISCUSSION? >> PLEASE CALL THE VOTE.

[10.1 GOLF COURSE ADVISORY BOARD]

>> COMMISSIONER ANTUN. >> YES.

>> VICE MAYOR STURGES. >> YES.

>> COMMISSIONER ROSS. >> YES.

>> COMMISSIONER AYSCUE. >> YES.

>> MAYOR BEAN. >> YES.

>> NUMBER 10 BOARD APPOINTMENT, ITEM 10 .1 ADVISORY BOARD WE DO HAVE ONE OPENING, DO I

HEAR A MOTION. >> AND MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE CHARLIE YES A NEW BOARD APPOINTEE.

>> I SECOND. >> I HEAR A MOTION IN THE SECOND, DO I HEAR ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION?

>> I WANT TO THANK MAYOR CORBETT FOR STAYING INVOLVED WITH FERNANDO BEACH, WE APPRECIATE HIS TIME AND CONTINUED SERVICE TO THE CITY.

[11. PUBLIC COMMENT REGARDING ITEMS NOT ON THE AGENDA]

CITY CLERK PLEASE CALL THE ROLL.

>> COMMISSIONER ANTUN. >> YES.

>> VICE MAYOR STURGES. >> YES.

>> YES. >> MAYOR ROSS.

>> YES. >> MAYOR BEAN.

>> YES. >> PUBLIC COMMENT FOR ITEMS ON THE AGENDA WE INVITE RICHARD DEAN TO

THE PODIUM. >> RICHARD DEAN 4104.

I WANT TO GIVE A SHOUT OUT TO OUR PUBLIC WORKS STAFF I LIVE ON ONE OF THE FEW DIRT ROADS IN THE CITY. I CALLED THEM TO GET POTHOLE WORK. THE NEXT DAY THEY WERE OUT THERE DOING THIS. THIS IS ONE OF MY MANY POSITIVE EXPERIENCES WITH A VERY FINE STAFF HERE. WE DON'T KNOW HOW LUCKY WE ARE ABOUT THE RESPONSIVENESS OF OUR CITY EMPLOYEES. THIS CASE IS PUBLIC WORKS AND OTHER EXPERIENCE WITH UTILITIES AND I THINK THAT THEY DESERVE A SHADOW OF CREDIT FOR THE RESPONSIVENESS.

>> THANK YOU MR. DEAN. MS. GEORGE CAN YOU PLEASE GET JEREMIAH AND ANDRE TO PASS THAT ALONG TO HER STAFF, I APPRECIATE YOU.

WE INVITE MS. JULIE TO THE PODIUM.

>> JULIE FERRERA 501 DATE STREET.

I WANT TO SPEAK EVEN ABOUT THE TREES ON ATLANTIC THAT WILL BE IMPACTED ABOUT THE REPLACEMENT OF THE SIDEWALK ON THE CORNER BY THE TRAFFIC LIGHT, THE HEALTH OF THESE TREES ON THE CORNER INTRICATELY CONNECTED TO THE UTILIZATION OF HISTORIC PAVERS BECAUSE IF WE ARE NOT LAYING PAVERS THAT ARE PERVIOUS SPACE THEN THAT MEANS THAT WE'RE DIGGING DOWN TO CREATE A BASE FOR THE SIDEWALK WHETHER IT'S A CONCRETE BASE WITH HISTORIC PAVERS PUT ON IT OR WHETHER IT IS A REGULAR SIDEWALK THE FDO T MAY WANT TO REPLACE OR A HISTORIC SIDEWALK WI WITH. ANY TYPE OF DIGGING, ANY TYPE OF SOIL MOVEMENT AROUND THE ROOTS WILL IMPACT THE LONG-TERM HEALTH OF THE STREETS.

AND I WANT TO ENCOURAGE YOU TO STAND UP BECAUSE I'M NOT SURE IF YOU DON'T TAKE OVER THE MAINTENANCE OF THE PORTION OF SIDEWALK AGAIN THE FDOT IS GOING TO REPLACE WITH HISTORIC PAVERS. I DON'T KNOW THAT THEY WANT TO BE RESPONSIBLE FOR A LONG-TERM MAINTENANCE WITH PAVERS. IF THEY GO TO A SIDEWALK OR WANT TO GO TO A SIDEWALK WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THEIR PLAN IS OR I DON'T.

IF THEY WANT TO REPLACE SOMETHING OTHER THAN THE PAVERS THEN IT WILL IMPACT THE HEALTH OF THE TREES, THOSE ARE ICONIC, THAT IS THE STATEMENT OF THE AMBIENCE OF OUR TOWN EVERYBODY DRIVING DOWN EIGHTH STREET, EVERYBODY COMING INTO OUR DOWNTOWN AREA STOPS AT THE STOPLIGHT, THAT IS THE WELCOME. IT'S UP TO US YES A CITY TO PROTECT IT AND I WANT TO REQUEST, I WANT TO DEMAND I WANT TO ENCOURAGE, WHATEVER THE WORD IS NO COUNTRY IN THERE IS A HANDBOOK.

IT'S THE ISI HANDBOOK, OUR CITY ARBORIST HAS IT IN HIS OFFICE AND HE HAS BEEN TRAINED ON HOW TO UTILIZE IT FOR BRIDGING THE ROOTS AND FOR CREATING SOMETHING THAT WILL SAVE THE ROOTS AND

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NOT IMPACT THEM. SO IMPORTANT IN EACH ONE OF YOU NEED TO GET INVOLVED IN THIS IS KIND OF RUDE AND I DON'T WANT TO EMBARRASS ANYBODY THAT THIS IS HUMILIATING TO SIT IN THIS AUDIENCE AND WHEN YOU GUYS HAVE A CHANCE TO SAVE TREES IN OUR COMMUNITY BECAUSE WERE SUPPOSED TO BE A TREE COMMUNITY THAT YOU DON'T TAKE IT.

WE HAVE TO STOP GIVING LIP SERVICE TO TREES.

EITHER WE WANT TO PROTECT TREES OR WE DON'T GIVE A PLANK. I THINK WE WANT TO PROTECT TREES. EVERY TIME WE GET AN OPPORTUNITY, PLEASE STEP OUT OF YOUR COMFORT ZONE AND DO IT. THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU. I KNOW FDOT IS ALREADY WORKING ON WITH THE COURTHOUSE THAT WOULD GO AROUND THE TREE AND REMOVE THE SIDEWALK AROUND THE TREE AND THAT AN EFFECT WAS A VICTORY.

HOPEFULLY THAT GOES THROUGH, I AM NOT SURE I'M NOT FDOT BUT THAT'S WHAT I HEARD.

WE INVITE MS. SHEILA TO THE PODIUM.

[12. CITY MANAGER REPORTS]

>> MOVING RIGHT ALONG. WE HAVE CITY MANAGER

REPORTS. >> I ONLY HAVE ONE AND YES EVERYONE KNOWS WE DODGED A BULLET LAST WEEK WITH HURRICANE IDALIA.

I WOULD GIVE A STRONG APPRECIATION TO THE STAFF OF WHAT THEY DID IN THE PREPARATION EVEN THOUGH IT TURNED OUT A LOT WAS NOT NEEDED BUT WE WERE ON CALL IN CHIEF SILCOX FOR THE EMERGENCY OPERATION OF IT IN THE UTILITIES AND PARKS AND BACK AND PUBLIC WORKS AND EVERYBODY JUMPED IN AND HAD THIS THING SCHEDULE, PLANNED AND WENT OFF WITHOUT A HITCH AND WE WERE FORTUNATE WE DIDN'T HAVE ANY FLOODING, THE CORPS OF ENGINEERS CAME OUT AFTER THE STORM LAST FRIDAY AND SAID THE BEACH DID NOT GET DAMAGED SO WE ARE GOOD THERE. I WANT TO GET IT ON RECORD AND THINK THE STAFFER EVERYTHING THAT

THEY DID. >> THANK YOU MR. GEORGE.

>> ANY QUESTIONS FOR INTERIM CITY MANAGER.

>> NO QUESTIONS, CHARLIE I WANT TO LET YOU KNOW THAT THERE ARE SEVERAL CITY STAFF THAT REACHED OUT TO ME DIRECTLY TO SAY HOW WELL THIS PROCEDURE WENT WITH THIS PLEADING FOR THE HURRICANE. AND IMPLEMENTING YOUR PLAN OF IMPLEMENT GETTING OUR CITY PREPARED FOR AN EVENT THAT COULD'VE BEEN CATASTROPHIC. I PERSONALLY THANK YOU DID AN AWESOME JOB AND YOU SHOULD GET KUDOS AND GIVE YOURSELF A PAT ON THE BACK JUST YES MUCH YES I'M GIVING YOU A THANK YOU TO THE CITY AND PROBABLY ALL THE REST OF HER COMMISSIONERS THAT YOU LOOKED OUT FOUR HOURS CITY AND THAT IS WHAT IS IMPORTANT.

>> HE GOES TO THE STAFF, THEY ARE THE ONES THAT

DID THE HEAVY LIFTING. >> I UNDERSTAND I WANT TO GIVE IT TO THE TOP AND I WANT TO THANK ALL THE STAFF YES WELL. BEING PREPARED EVERYWHERE FROM THE STREET DEPARTMENT TO THE SEWER AND WATER DEPARTMENT IN CASE WE HAVE POWDER UNDER POWER AND WATER OUTAGES.

ALL KINDS OF THINGS COULD HAPPEN WITHIN NORMAL FACILITIES THAT WE DO NOT WANT TO

[13. CITY ATTORNEY REPORTS]

HAPPEN. THANK YOU CHARLIE.

[14. CITY CLERK REPORTS]

>> THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU MR. GEORGE.

>> CITY ATTORNEY. >> NO REPORT.

>> CITY CLERK. >> THE PUBLIC NOTICE OF GATHERING FOR SEPTEMBER 11 IS ON THE CITY WEBSITE AND I CHECKED AFTER OUR EARLIER DISCUSSION IS UNDER A DUNDAS/NOTICING, GATHERING IS BEEN THERE SINCE JULY 26.

>> THANK YOU. >> COMMISSIONER ROSS.

>> I RECEIVED AN E-MAIL FROM A CONSTITUENT, I WOULD LIKE TO BE PART OF IT.

I JUST WANTED TO LET YOU KNOW THAT I THINK THE BEACH BREAKERS AND ESPECIALLY JEROME ARE DOING A VERY GOOD JOB OF HELPING KEEPING THE BEACH DEBRIS UNDER CONTROL, BEEN A VOLUNTEER FOR THE PAST SIX YEARS WITH THE AMELIA ISLAND BEACH AND PASSENGERS TO CLEAN THE BEACH AND WASHES THE SCENE POTENTIALLY HARMS MARINE IS A NICE WHEN WE CATCH NOBODY DOING SOMETHING RIGHT, WE HIRED BEACH RAKERS A NUMBER OF YEARS AGO AND PROBABLY THE GREATEST COMPLIMENT TO THEM IF YOU NEVER HEAR COMPLAINTS. THEY HAVE SORT OF DISAPPEARED. IT'S PROBABLY THE HIGHEST COMPLIMENT THAT YOU COULD GIVE ANYBODY.

I ALSO WANT TO GIVE A SHOUT OUT TO THE STAFF, PARTICULARLY TO JEREMIAH AND HIS CREW DOING PARKING LOT THE THINK THAT TURNED OUT TO BE VERY WELL DONE AND ALSO THE NEW BIKE PATH THAT IS A MINI LITTLE PATH BETWEEN LYME AND KELP STREET THAT'S NOW BEEN DONE WE STARTED MESSING AROUND ABOUT FOUR YEARS AGO.

THEY DIDN'T EXCELLENT JOB AND I WANTED TO EXPRESS MY APPRECIATION TO THE STAFF FOR DOING

THAT. >> THANK YOU COMMISSIONER ROSS, LET'S GO TO COMMISSIONER

ANTUN. >> NO COMMENT.

>> MR. ASK YOU. >> I JUST WANT TO THANK CITY STAFF, FIRST RESPONDERS AND OUR PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT WE DID DODGE A BULLET WITH HURRICANE IDALIA AND THEY WERE WORKING

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HARD AND THEY DID A FANTASTIC JOB THROUGHOUT THE STORM AND I WANT TO GIVE THEM RECOGNITION

[15. MAYOR/COMMISSIONER COMMENTS]

FOR ALL THEIR HARD WORK. I HAVE NOTHING ELSE.

>> VICE MAYOR. >> THANK YOU MAYOR.

I WANT TO BRIEFLY STATE THAT JEREMIAH DOES AN AWESOME THING THAT I COMPLIMENT YOU EARLIER WHEN HE WAS HERE THE NEW PARKING LOT LOOKS GREAT AND IS WOULD BE A GREAT USE FOR THE CITY YES WELL BETWEEN LAST MEETING IN THIS MEETING WE LOST A VERY VITAL PERSON IN OUR COMMUNITY GEORGE THOMPSON. I WENT TO HIS FUNERAL ON AUGUST THE 26TH AND HE WAS A GREAT MAN, HE DID A GREAT THING FOR THIS COMMUNITY IS VERY AND TRICKLE AND I WANT TO SEND MY PRAYERS AND THOUGHTS OUT TO THE THOMPSON FAMILY TO HAVE SUCH A MATRIARCH IN A PERSON OF THE COMMUNITY THAT REBUILT CHURCHES ALL OVER SOUTHEAST GEORGIA, FERNANDINA, HE DID ALL KINDS OF THINGS FOR PEOPLE AND NEVER ASKED FOR ANYTHING.

THOSE TYPE OF PEOPLE ARE THREADS OF OUR COMMUNITY. AND I WANT TO GIVE THANKS TO EVERYBODY WHO SUPPORTED HIM AND IT WAS A VERY LARGE UTERO FOR THE CHURCH WELL OVER A HUNDRED PEOPLE THERE THAT ATTENDED, IT WAS VERY MOVING TO WATCHES SERVICE THAT LASTED ALMOST THREE HOURS LONG. IT WAS VERY ENJOYABLE TO SEE EVERYBODY CARE AND REACH OUT FOR SUCH A GREAT MAN IN OUR COMMUNITY.

THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU VICE MAYOR.

WE ARE ALL PRAYING FOR THE THOMPSON FAMILY AT THIS TIME. A COUPLE WEEKS THANKS, BEACH ACCESS 24 IS NEAR COMPLETION, THE NEXT IMPROVEMENT WILL BE TO THE BEACH ACCESS 29 THE BOARDWALK WILL BE SHUTDOWN ON WEDNESDAY THAT IS TOMORROW FOR ABOUT ONE WEEK, BE READY FOR THAT IT IS ONLY GOING TO BE A WEEK AND WE WILL GET BACK OPEN. WE WANT TO TALK ABOUT THE PUBLIC HAVING AN OPPORTUNITY TO MEET WITH FERDINAND'S FINEST TOMORROW THEY WILL BE MEETING THE AMELIA COPY UNDER COFFEE SHOP AT 3:00 P.M. THANK YOU TO INTERIM CHIEF AND THE ENTIRE FERNANDINA POLICE DEPARTMENT FOR ORGANIZING THESE EVENTS. I WANT TO ECHO THE SUPPORT FOR STAFF AND HOW WE HANDLE THE HURRICANE WAS PHENOMENAL WE REALLY DODGED A BULLET BUT I WANT TO GIVE AN EXTRA SPECIAL SHOUT OUT TO THE STAFF VOLUNTEERED TO WORK THAT YOU SEE THE EMERGENCY OPERATIONS CENTER I TOOK A TOUR OF THAT RIGHT IN THE SWING OF THINGS AND THAT PLACES BUZZING WITH OBSERVATION IN OUR CITY STAFF HELP RUN THAT THING AND I HAVE IN THE ROOM WITH ME MS. KATIE NEWTON WAS RUNNING THE SHOW AND SO WAS THE OFFICER DECKER IN OUR FIREFIGHTERS AND THE CHIEF I CANNOT SAY NAMES, I'LL MISS SOMEBODY THERE WERE SO MANY CITY STAFF AND THAT HAS TO BE A THANKLESS JOB AND THEY WERE THERE ALL NIGHT IN EMERGENCY OPERATIONS. I APPRECIATE YOU GUYS, WITH

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