[INAUDIBLE]. SO I'LL CALL A MEETING OF THE MARINE ADVISORY BOARD IN SESSION CALLED TO ORDER.
[1. CALL TO ORDER]
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LET'S DO THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE, PLEASE.[4. APPROVAL OF MINUTES]
IF YOU LOOK AT THE AGENDA, YOU'LL FIND THAT THE MINUTES OF THE MARCH 27TH MEETING HAS A PAGE MISSING.HOWEVER, THE CLERK WAS ABLE TO GIVE US A COMPLETE COPY.
SO THAT'S WHAT'S BEFORE YOU NOW.
NOW I'D LIKE TO CALL THAT THE APRIL 24TH MINUTES BE APPROVED.
ANY OBJECTIONS OR CORRECTIONS AS AMENDED? THERE'S SOME AMENDMENTS IN THERE WRITTEN IN INK.
WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE APRIL 24TH.
OKAY. ANY CORRECTIONS, SIR? I'M MOTION.
GREAT. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. MOTION CARRIES.
WHO WAS THE ONE THAT SECONDED IT? SAY AGAIN. WE GOT IT.
OH, WE ALL RIGHT? YEP. THANKS. KEEP YOUR NOTES.
OKAY, NOW WE'RE GOING TO THE MARCH 27TH MINUTES.
OKAY. WHICH YOU HAVE BEFORE YOU AT THIS TIME.
OKAY. I'D LIKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THOSE MINUTES.
MOTION TO APPROVE. WITH THE AMENDMENTS.
THERE WERE. THOSE ARE THE CORRECTIONS, RIGHT, THAT WE WENT OVER.
SO YOU'RE APPROVING WITH THE HANDWRITTEN.
ANY CORRECTIONS? SECOND. SECOND.
YOU HAVE A SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. MOTION CARRIES.
MINUTES OF THE MARCH 27TH MEETING ARE APPROVED.
OKAY. I'M CALLING FOR ANY PUBLIC COMMENTS REGARDING THE AGENDA.
ANYBODY IN THE AUDIENCE LIKE TO MAKE A COMMENT AT THIS TIME ON THE AGENDA OR WHAT'S NOT ON THE AGENDA? YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO SPEAK. NOT ON THE AGENDA.
HE SAYS HE SAYS NOT ON THE AGENDA.
DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING TO SAY? IT'S NOT ON THE AGENDA.
[6. OLD BUSINESS]
ANY DISCUSSIONS ON THE OLD BUSINESS? THEY. HAVE THE GATES BEEN INSTALLED AT THE MARINA? NOT YET, NO.SO THAT'S STILL HANGING FIRE, SO TO SPEAK.
THAT IS STILL A WORK IN PROGRESS.
SO THEY'RE WORKING IN CONJUNCTION WITH CHARLIE GEORGE ON THAT RIGHT NOW.
SO I EXPECT TO HAVE THAT BY THE END OF THE WEEK.
YOU'RE WELCOME. ANY DISCUSSION ON THE STATUTE THAT WAS SIGNED BY THE PEOPLE IN THE MARINA THAT WAS ON AN OLD BUSINESS, REMEMBER THE STATUTE THAT IF A HURRICANE COMES, WE'RE ALL GOING TO HAVE TO SIGN SOMETHING? OKAY. ANY DISCUSSION ON THAT? NO. OKAY.
ANY DISCUSSION ON AN INCREASE IN FEES? WE CAN DISCUSS? THAT'S IN MY MANAGER'S REPORT, BUT I'LL MENTION THAT WAS TO DO WITH THE CONTRACT AND THAT WAS THE ADDITIONAL SIGNATURE THAT WAS SUGGESTED BY TAMMY BOK AND BROUGHT UP BY THE BOARD THAT OASIS SIGNS THE ADDENDUM FOR THE HURRICANE PAGE, THE FINAL PAGE OF THE CONTRACT.
IF THAT'S WHAT WE'RE SPEAKING TO, THAT'S WHAT WE'RE SPEAKING.
AND THAT HAS BEEN DONE. AND DID EVERYONE SIGN? NOT YET, NO.
WHEN CONTRACTS ARE RENEWED, THEN WE WILL SEND THOSE OUT.
AND AS WE GO ALONG, ALL NEW CONTRACTS MOVING FORWARD.
NOW, ARE THE OLD ONES STILL IN FORCE? THEY WILL BE IN FORCE UNTIL THE END OF THE YEAR IF BY THE END OF THE YEAR OR UNTIL THE END OF THE YEAR.
SO DURING THIS HURRICANE SEASON, THEY'LL BE ENFORCED.
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GET IT ON THE RECORD.OKAY. I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE SURE THAT THE BOATERS AND THE MARINA ARE COVERED.
ANY OTHER OLD BUSINESS? NO NEW BUSINESS.
[7. NEW BUSINESS]
FUEL OUTAGE.THE CITY OF MARINA HAS BEEN WITHOUT FUEL FOR QUITE SOME TIME NOW.
SO THAT'S PUTTING A REAL BURDEN UPON THEM.
CAN YOU EXPLAIN WHAT'S GOING ON WITH THE FUEL SYSTEM, PLEASE? SURE. GUARDIAN WILL BE ON SITE AUGUST 1ST WITH THEIR TEAM TO REPLACE THE FUEL LINE.
THEY HAVE THE CERTIFIED MANUFACTURER'S REPRESENTATION REPRESENTATIVE WITH THEM WHO'S GOING TO JUST MAKE SURE THAT EVERYTHING IS DONE APPROPRIATELY ON AUGUST 2ND. THEN ANOTHER CONTRACTOR IS SCHEDULED, IT'S CLEMENTS, AND THEY WILL COME AND PRESSURE TEST THE LINE.
SO THEY ANTICIPATE ONE DAY FOR THE INSTALLATION.
THE FOLLOWING DAY THE LINES WILL BE PRESSURE TESTED.
ONCE WE RECEIVE THAT CERTIFICATION, THEN WE CAN BEGIN FUELING.
HOW LONG HAS IT BEEN SINCE THE MARINA BEEN WITHOUT FUEL? IT'LL BE ABOUT 76 DAYS.
WHAT HAPPENS? 76 DAYS? WHAT HAPPENED TO IT? WE'VE BEEN WITHOUT FUEL.
ON THE 15TH, WE DISCOVERED THAT THERE WAS A LEAK IN THE LINE.
WE FAILED THAT PRESSURE TEST ON THE UNLEADED LINE.
ON THE 30TH WE RECEIVED WELL, ACTUALLY THE 28TH AND THE 30TH, WE RECEIVED TWO QUOTES.
AND ON THE 31ST WE APPROVED GUARDIAN FUELING TECHNOLOGIES.
ONE BECAUSE WE FELT THEY WERE THE BEST CONTRACTOR FOR THE JOB AND TWO, THEY WERE SLIGHTLY LESS THAN SPEC CO WHO WAS OUR SECOND QUOTE THAT WE RECEIVED? AND THE FOLLOWING WEEK, JUNE 1ST TO THE NINTH, WAS SPENT REVIEWING THE CONTRACT.
TAMMY BOC REVIEWED THE CONTRACT THAT HAD TO BE APPROVED AND A LITTLE ADJUSTMENTS MADE, SOLE SOURCE FORMS AND APPROVALS AND OF COURSE SIGNATURES ALL AROUND THE CITY, THE CITY ATTORNEY, THE CITY MANAGER AND THE CLERK.
WELL, THAT'S A MAJOR REVENUE SOURCE FOR THE MARINA.
THAT'S CORRECT. IS THERE ANY THOUGHT OF THE COMPANY THAT MAINTAINS THE FUEL SYSTEM FOR THE MARINA TO BE ON SOME KIND OF A CONTRACT? SO IF SOMETHING FAILS, THEY CAN BE IMMEDIATELY PUT TO WORK SO YOU DON'T LOSE REVENUE FOR 76 DAYS.
WE I DON'T KNOW ABOUT HAVING THEM ON A CONTRACT.
SO THAT IS IN PROGRESS FOR THE REST OF THIS BUDGET YEAR.
SO YOU WON'T HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE CONTRACT REVIEW, SOLE SOURCE AND THE REST OF THAT STUFF.
WE WON'T HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE SOLE SOURCE AND THERE MAY BE A QUICK CONTRACT REVIEW, BUT I THINK IT WILL SPEED THINGS UP ON THAT END AND THEN WE WILL DO THAT AGAIN BEGINNING OCTOBER 1ST.
I'VE ALSO SENT OUT A REQUEST FOR QUOTE FROM ANOTHER VENDOR AND OF COURSE WE'LL GET ONE FROM GUARDIAN FOR ANOTHER SET OF THE COMPLETE SET OF MATERIALS, THE PIPE, THE LENGTH OF PIPE, ALL THE FITTINGS, ALL THE COUPLINGS THAT WERE NEEDED FOR THIS JOB.
I ESTIMATE THAT TO BE AROUND 7500.
$8,000 FOR A COMPLETE SET OF PARTS.
AND JEREMIAH, BLESSED WITH THE MAINTENANCE DEPARTMENT, HAS ARRANGED TO SAFELY STORE THOSE.
I THINK THAT'S WORTH THE INVESTMENT.
AND NOW WE DON'T HAVE THAT DOWNTIME.
CONSIDERING HOW MUCH REVENUE WAS LOST, IT SOUNDS LIKE A GOOD INVESTMENT.
I UNDERSTAND THAT THE HOSES WERE ORIGINALLY SUPPLIED, DIDN'T FIT.
THAT'S THE ONLY PART OF THE MARINA THAT HAS THAT SECTION OF PIPE.
AND THAT WAS NOT, UNFORTUNATELY, IN ANY PLANS THAT I EVER SAW OR QUOTES.
IT'S SOMETHING THAT THE INSTALLER MARINE UTILITIES DID, WHICH WAS APPROPRIATE BUT UNKNOWN.
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SO ALL THAT'S BEING REPLACED.SO THAT IS WHAT'S BEING REPLACED NOW.
AND SO RATHER THAN NEW PIPE, IT'S A MEGA FLEX.
AND THAT'S WHAT GUARDIAN WILL BE HERE WITH ON THE FIRST.
THANK YOU, MA'AM. WHEN WAS THAT? ANY QUESTIONS? YES, WHEN WAS THAT LAST LINE? I'M SORRY? WHEN WAS THAT LINE LAST INSPECTED? SO THOSE LINES ARE PRESSURE TESTED ANNUALLY.
THE DIESEL LINE, OF COURSE, HAS BEEN PRESSURE TESTED AS WELL.
SO EVERYTHING IS INSPECTED ANNUALLY.
SO IT WAS INSPECTED MAY OF 2022.
I WOULD HAVE TO PULL UP THE RECORDS FOR WHEN IT WAS PRESSURE TESTED.
THE LINES ARE FREQUENTLY PRESSURE TESTED BY A CERTIFIED COMPANY AND I CAN PULL THAT UP.
THEY WERE CERTIFIED ACTUALLY TWICE, I THINK, LAST YEAR.
I ACTUALLY ASKED FOR THIS TO BE PUT ON THE AGENDA BECAUSE I HAVE PEOPLE CONTACTING ME AND SAYING, WHY ISN'T THERE ANY FUEL AT THE MARINA? AND I DIDN'T KNOW BECAUSE I DON'T GO DOWN THERE AND FUEL NOTHING.
BUT MY QUESTION THAT I HAVE IS HOW COME IF WE'RE ON THE MARINA ADVISORY BOARD, THAT IF SOMETHING HAPPENS DOWN THERE AT THAT MARINA, THAT WE'RE NOT NOTIFIED? BECAUSE WHEN PEOPLE KNOW THAT WE'RE ON THIS BOARD, THEY SEE US OUT IN THE COMMUNITY OR WHATEVER OR PICK UP THAT PHONE AND CALL AND WE DON'T, I DON'T HAVE AN ANSWER.
I DIDN'T KNOW. SO IN THE FUTURE, I WOULD LIKE TO ASK THAT IF THERE'S ANYTHING GOING ON DOWN THERE SUCH AS THAT, THAT WE GET AN EMAIL SO THAT WE'RE ADVISED ON EXACTLY WHAT'S GOING ON BECAUSE I HAD TO WAIT UNTIL TONIGHT AND MAY, JUNE, JULY WERE IN TWO MONTHS.
AND THE MARINA IS LOSING MONEY AND THAT'S ALL I'M GOING TO SAY.
WOULD THAT BE POSSIBLE, TOO? I WILL LOOK INTO THAT BECAUSE I'D HAVE TO BEFORE WHEN YOU SWITCHED WITH TAYLOR, WE KNEW NOTHING ABOUT IT.
AND PEOPLE ARE TELLING US ON THE STREET, SO IT MAKES US UPDATES.
WHAT ARE THE REQUIREMENTS FOR UPDATES WOULD BE THE QUESTION PERHAPS, OR MAYBE HOW WE CAN MODIFY IT IF IT'S NOT INCLUDED? SURE. WHY THE ANNUAL INSPECTION OCCURRED ON MAY THE 15TH.
IS THERE A REASON IT OCCURS AT THAT TIME OF THE YEAR? OH, THAT WAS NOT THE ANNUAL INSPECTION.
WE SAW EVIDENCE A TINY DROPS OF UNLEADED FUEL RISING TO THE SURFACE INTERMITTENTLY THAT WERE JUST 1 OR 2 EVERY NOT EVEN EVERY DAY, JUST EVERY WEEK OR SO, VERY INTERMITTENTLY.
AND SO THAT PROMPTED US TO HAVE THAT LINE PRESSURE TESTED, THAT SECTION, BECAUSE WE SAW EVIDENCE THAT THERE WAS A TINY PINHOLE SOMEWHERE IN THAT LINE.
IT'S INTERESTING. THEY WERE NEVER ABLE TO SEE WHERE THAT PINHOLE WAS, OR SO NOT AT THIS TIME.
WHEN THE PIPE IS FULLY REMOVED, IT WILL BE SENT TO OMEGA FLEX FOR SO IT CAN BE INVESTIGATED.
AND THEY'RE GOING TO TRY TO DO A DISCOVERY ON HOW THAT BECAUSE IT'S VERY UNUSUAL THAT WE WOULD SEE TO GO THROUGH THAT STAINLESS STEEL AND THEN ALSO THE SURROUNDING IT THERE.
YEAH. SO THAT WILL BE INVESTIGATED AND THAT WILL ALSO REFLECT ON THE WARRANTY.
YOU SAID WE'D BE ON THE WARRANTY PERIOD.
WE'RE HOPING THAT WE'RE NOT IT'S WE SHOULDN'T BE WE SHOULD BE FINE WITH THAT.
HAS IT QUITE A LONG WARRANTY PERIOD? SO THAT'S IT.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR UTILITIES? ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? OKAY. MARINA MANAGER'S REPORT.
[8. MARINA MANAGER REPORT]
SURE. THIS IS A PART OF IT HERE ON THE SCREEN THAT YOU CAN SEE.AND WE DON'T EXPERIENCE THIS DOWNTIME.
ABOVE THAT IS JUST SOME REVENUE INHIBITORS.
IT'S AN ESTIMATE OF THE LOSS OF THE REVENUE THAT WE EXPERIENCED BACK IN LAST YEAR.
WE HAD THE TWO HURRICANES AND SO WE WERE DOWN FOR 72 DAYS WITH NO DIESEL OR GAS AT THAT TIME.
AND ON THE FIRST PAGE WE HAVE, OF COURSE, WE HAVE THE FORECAST DOWN ON THE BOTTOM.
AND YOU CAN SEE THAT WE ARE AFFECTED BY HAVING NOT HAVING ANY FUEL HERE IN THIS MONTH'S FORECAST AS COMPARED TO THE BUDGET THAT IS GOING TO AFFECT US ON THE BOTTOM LINE. I DID PUT IN A COUPLE OF COMPS, FOR INSTANCE, IN NOVEMBER WHEN WE HAD NO FUEL AS WELL.
YOU CAN SEE THAT WE WERE QUITE AFFECTED BY NOT HAVING FUEL.
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FOR A REFERENCE TO GET A HOLISTIC PICTURE OF WHERE WE ARE.IT WAS REQUESTED THAT WE BARB IN.
WAS IT APRIL OR MARCH YOU REQUESTED THE MARINA DEBT.
SO I'VE GOT THE DEBT IN THERE FOR YOU.
AND THE TOTAL OF THAT, OF COURSE THAT'S AFFECTED.
IT GOES DOWN A LITTLE BIT EACH YEAR.
BUT THESE ARE THE NUMBERS FOR THIS BUDGET YEAR.
AND THEN WE END WITH OUR GOOD NEWS AT THE TOP.
WE HAVE WE ARE WORKING WITH THE CITY TO IMPROVE THE WI-FI.
YOU MAY OR MAY NOT KNOW, BUT THE LACK OF WI-FI, OUR COVERAGE IS STILL A LITTLE SPOTTY AT THE MARINA.
AND THAT'S ONE OF OUR BIGGEST COMPLAINTS THAT WE GET WHEN WE GET REVIEWS ONLINE.
SO WE'RE WORKING WITH THE CITY.
WE'VE GOT AN UPDATE ON THE SHARK.
WE POSTED A COUPLE OF POSTS ON FACEBOOK A WHILE BACK THAT WE SENT IT OFF TO GRAY'S TAXIDERMY.
IT'S UNDER WRAPS, BUT IT LOOKS AMAZING.
AND WE ARE WORKING WITH THE CITY AGAIN.
I HAVE TO THANK JEREMIAH AGAIN FOR HELPING.
AND THE BACKDROP ISN'T THAT GREAT FOR PHOTOS.
MOVE HER OUT INTO THE BOARDWALK, KIND OF NEXT TO THE ADA RAMP WHERE PEOPLE CAN COME.
THEY'LL HAVE THE SUNSET BEHIND THEM.
THEY CAN HAVE A PICTURE WITH THE SHARK.
SO WE'RE REALLY EXCITED ABOUT THAT.
AND THEN WE'LL PROBABLY POST ON FACEBOOK AGAIN TO GET THE NAMING CONTEST GOING AGAIN.
YOU KNOW, WE HAVE NOT HAD THE UNLEADED FUEL.
AND THAT'LL BE THROUGH AUGUST AND SEPTEMBER, WHICH ARE TYPICALLY OUR SLOWEST MONTHS.
WE'RE GOING TO TRY TO GET SOME BOATS IN FOR THE SUMMER.
SO IF YOU KNOW ANYBODY THAT WANTS TO COME, YOU KNOW, WE MAY EVEN DO IT FOR ONE NIGHT.
WE JUST WANT TO BRING THAT REVENUE TO THE MARINA.
WE'VE ALSO GOT THE FERNANDINA FIRE AND RESCUE.
THIS IS ON THERE. BUT I REACHED OUT TO THE FIRE RESCUE DEPARTMENT AND THEY WILL CONDUCT TRAININGS.
SO THEY ARE ON SCHEDULE FOR THE FIRST WEEK IN AUGUST TO COME.
SO WE'RE LOOKING FORWARD TO THAT HAPPENING.
YOU'VE PROBABLY NOTICED DIDI CONSTRUCTION IS DOING THE OVERLOOKS ON THE BOARDWALK.
HE'S WORKING ON THE NORTHERN SECTION THIS WEEK AND HE'LL PROBABLY FINISH UP EARLY NEXT WEEK.
SO YOU'LL SEE THOSE IMPROVEMENTS GOING ON.
AND THEN THE LAST THING WAS I REALLY TALKED ABOUT WE ADDED THAT SIGNATURE LINE TO THE CONTRACT.
AND THAT'S ALL I HAVE. ANY COMMENTS FROM THE BOARD? WHEN'S OUR NEXT MEETING? THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS ON THERE.
WHEN'S OUR NEXT MEETING? IS IT? OUR NEXT MEETING IS IN TWO MONTHS.
SEPTEMBER. BOARD MEMBERS COMMENTS. YOU'VE GOT THE FLOOR.
OKAY. THANKS, MR. CHAIRMAN. I HAD A CHANCE TO GET DOWN TO THE MARINA AND TAKE A TOUR WITH CATHY.
THANK YOU, CATHY, FOR YOUR TIME THAT YOU TOOK OUT OF YOUR DAY SHOWING UP.
I WAS ABLE TO LOOK AT THE BREAK IN THE LINE AND, YOU KNOW, AND SEE WHAT THE PROBLEM WAS.
AND WE TALKED ABOUT SOME STRATEGIES TO ABOUT TO AVOID FUTURE PROBLEMS AND HOW TO DESIGN IT AND THOSE TYPES OF THINGS.
AND THEN ALSO SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WAS BROUGHT TO MY ATTENTION IS THAT WE NEED TO THINK OR THEY NEED TO THINK LONG TERM IS THAT THE PEDESTALS THAT HOLD THE ELECTRICITY ALONG THERE THEY FACE TOWARDS THE WEST.
AND WHEN YOU GET THAT WEST WATER COMING OVER, AS IT WAS EXPLAINED TO ME, THAT SALT GETS IN THERE AND AS YOU CAN SEE, IT'S ONLY TWO YEARS OLD AND IT'S ALREADY STARTING TO RUST. AND WHEN YOU'RE DEALING WITH ELECTRICAL COMPONENTS, YOU DON'T WANT RUST OR DEGRADATION THERE.
SO IT'S EITHER GOING TO HAVE TO BE REPLACED OR REMODIFIED AT SOME POINT.
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AND SO THAT WAS BROUGHT TO MY ATTENTION.BUT ANYWAY, IT WAS A GOOD TOUR.
I MET A CAPTAIN OR TWO AND WAS ABLE TO SEE HOW THEIR OPERATION RUNS, SAW THE STORE.
YOU'RE WELCOME. YEAH, MY PLEASURE.
SO THE INTERIOR PARTS, THE SENSITIVE PARTS ARE ALL BEING REPLACED.
AND WE'RE HOPING THAT WE CAN GET A LOT MORE LIFE OUT OF THOSE.
WELL, REMEMBER ALSO WHEN THAT WAS DESIGNED THAT GFI IS SET UP ON IT AT CURRENT STATUS OF WHAT, 60 MILLIAMP OR 30, 30 MILLIAMP, 30 MILLIAMP YOU CAN ONLY BLEED 30 MILLIAMP FOR A DAY TRIP.
EXCUSE ME? WHICH WAS THE NEW STANDARD? YOU KNOW, NATIONALLY, MOST OTHER MARINAS ARE AT 100 MILLION, IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN.
SO THAT'S SOMETHING TO BE AWARE OF AS WELL.
BUT DO WE WANT TO TALK ABOUT PARKING? HAS THAT BEEN CHANGED AT ALL? TALK ABOUT ANYTHING YOU WANT TO. IT'S OPEN COMMENTS.
WHAT ABOUT THE RAMP TO UNLOAD? IS THAT SUFFICIENT FOR THE BOATERS? ANYBODY HEARD ANYTHING? I HAVEN'T HEARD ANY FEEDBACK. OKAY.
I DIDN'T RIDE THE DAY, BUT I RODE DOWN THERE THIS WEEKEND TO LOOK AND IT WAS STILL CLOSED.
SO IS IT STILL CLOSED? AND THAT'S ANOTHER THING.
ANYTHING IN MY OPINION, THAT INVOLVES THAT MARINA, WHETHER IT'S THAT BOAT RAMP.
MR. DANIEL, IF YOU'RE LISTENING, WANT TO KNOW ABOUT THAT? HE'S REALLY UPSET ABOUT THAT BOAT RAMP BEING CLOSED.
SO WHEN IS IT GOING TO OPEN UP AGAIN? SURE, IT'S OPEN.
BUT WE NEED TO KNOW THAT KIND OF STUFF SO THAT PEOPLE BECAUSE THEY'RE ASKING, THEY'LL PUT IT ON.
SO WHY DID IT TAKE SO LONG TO GET THAT DONE, JEREMIAH? THE MAINTENANCE DEPARTMENT HEADED UP THAT PROJECT THAT'S PART OF PARKS AND REC, AND THEY SCHEDULED THAT WORK TO BE DONE, I THINK A FEW SATURDAYS AGO DURING THE ONE OF THE FISHING TOURNAMENTS.
AND SO THAT WAS CANCELED AND RESCHEDULED TO HAPPEN LATE LAST WEEK.
OKAY. I'D LIKE TO REQUEST THAT ANY TIME ANYTHING OCCURS IN THE MARINA THAT'S OF INTEREST, GENERAL INTEREST, NOT EVERYDAY OPERATION.
I MEAN, THAT'S MINUTIA THAT WE DON'T NEED TO KNOW ABOUT.
BUT ANYTHING THAT WILL CAUSE PEOPLE TO START ASKING QUESTIONS LIKE IF YOU'RE GOING TO TAKE THE RAMP OUT FOR MAINTENANCE OR WHATEVER, AT LEAST SEND US SOMETHING THAT SAYS WE'RE PLANNING TO TAKE THE RAMP OUT ON SUCH AND SUCH A DATE OR SOMEWHERE AROUND THAT TIME PERIOD, AND WE EXPECT IT TO BE RETURNED ON SUCH SO THAT WHEN WE GET THE QUESTIONS AND WE DON'T, YOU KNOW, BASICALLY GO, YOU KNOW, WHICH IS VERY EMBARRASSING, YOU KNOW, AND THEN OF COURSE, YOU GET A BUNCH OF PHONE CALLS NOT ONLY FROM US, BUT EVERYBODY ELSE.
IT'D BE EASIER FOR US JUST TO KILL IT RIGHT THEN AND THERE AND LET PEOPLE KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON.
OTHERWISE, WE'RE JUST IN, YOU KNOW, IN THE DARK.
AND, YOU KNOW, I COULD SAY SOMETHING, BUT I WON'T.
BUT ANYWAY, NAVY TERMS, YOU KNOW, ANYWAY, I WOULD APPRECIATE IF YOU DO THAT, MA'AM.
YES, MA'AM. WHAT ARE YOUR REPORTING REQUIREMENTS? THAT'S I'M GOING TO FIND OUT.
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AND THAT'S WHAT I'M GOING TO BECAUSE WE'RE ASKING YOU TO DO THINGS THAT YOU MAY NOT HAVE IN YOUR CHARTER OR WHATEVER IT IS.BUT I WAS GOING TO ASK YOU THE RIGHT WORD.
CONTRACT. WHAT'S THE CONTRACT? THE CONTRACT IS WHAT SHE'S REQUIRED TO DO.
AND YOU GET QUESTIONS? I GET QUESTIONS.
AND WE'RE ASKING YOU TO GIVE US INFO, BUT MAYBE WE GO BACK TO MORE FREQUENT MEETINGS OR IF YOU CAN FIND THAT OUT AND GET THAT BACK TO US LIKE WITHIN A COUPLE OF DAYS OR WHATEVER, SEND US AN EMAIL. YOU KNOW, IF THAT'S IF YOU'RE NOT REQUIRED TO DO THAT, IF YOU'RE NOT ALLOWED TO DO THAT, THEN WE NEED TO KNOW THAT, TOO.
SURE, WE CAN LOOK AT MODIFYING THE CONTRACT TO FIND OUT WHAT'S APPROPRIATE.
HOW OFTEN IS YOUR HOW OFTEN IS YOUR CONTRACT UP FOR REVIEW SO THAT WE CAN ADD SOMETHING IF WE NEEDED TO? ANY COMMENTS FROM THE AUDIENCE? IT GOES THROUGH THE CITY. YES.
ARE YOU NOT ON ARE YOU NOT ON KATHY'S EMAIL LIST THAT SHE SENT OUT THAT INFORMATION ON TO? I SEND OUT TO THE I SEND OUT TO OUR VOTERS IF THE PARKING LOTS ARE CLOSED OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.
AND I REALLY TRY TO KEEP THEM ABREAST OF WHAT'S.
COULD YOU ADD ALL OUR EMAILS TO THAT, PLEASE? YEAH. ANYBODY ELSE? ANYTHING THAT AFFECTS THAT MARINA, LIKE I SAID IN MY COMMENTS, I KNOW YOU'RE HAVING A HARD TIME HEARING, BUT THAT BOAT RAMP GOING DOWN ON, YOU KNOW, IF THERE'S SOMETHING UNSAFE DOWN THERE LIKE THE THE GATE THING OR WHATEVER, THE WALK OVER, WHATEVER, WE NEED TO KNOW ABOUT THAT BECAUSE PEOPLE ARE GOING TO ASK AND THEY'RE NOT GOING TO CALL YOU.
THEY'RE GOING TO CALL US OR FIND US BECAUSE THEY KNOW WHO WE ARE.
WE HAVE SOMEBODY AT THE PODIUM.
[INAUDIBLE]. MY NAME IS CAROLINE BEST.
IT IS NOT CUSTOMARY FOR ADVISORY BOARDS TO RECEIVE THAT LEVEL OF INFORMATION FROM STAFF.
ADVISORY BOARDS ARE DESIGNED TO ADVISE THE CITY COMMISSION ON PROJECTS AND MATTERS OF IMPORTANCE THAT YOU WANT BROUGHT FORWARD AND FUNDED IN THE CITY'S BUDGET.
SO IF THAT LEVEL OF INFORMATION IS NOT TYPICALLY PROVIDED, I WOULD RECOMMEND, THOUGH THAT IF YOU DO GET CALLS, YOU CAN REFER ANYBODY TO THE CITY CLERK'S OFFICE, CERTAINLY TO MISS CHAPMAN. WE'LL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
BUT IF YOU THINK ABOUT IT AS A HIGHER LEVEL, Y'ALL ARE AT A HIGHER LEVEL THAN THAT.
AND YOU WOULDN'T CUSTOMARILY BE PRIVY TO THAT KIND OF INFORMATION THAT'S OCCURRING DOWN HERE, BECAUSE THEORETICALLY, IT DOESN'T AFFECT YOU. I THINK THAT MAKES SENSE.
OKAY, THAT'S FINE. IN OTHER WORDS.
BUT JUST SO YOU KNOW THAT, RIGHT? SO, FOR EXAMPLE, THE CLERK'S OFFICE DOESN'T DOESN'T TELL THE CITY COMMISSION EVERY, YOU KNOW, EVERYTHING THAT'S THAT'S OCCURRING.
BUT IF THEY DO HAVE QUESTIONS, THEY CALL AND WE TALK ABOUT IT, BUT WE DON'T JUST ARBITRARILY JUST PUSH OUT A BUNCH OF INFORMATION TO THEM THAT WE THINK THEY MIGHT LIKE OR NOT LIKE. SO, AS I SAID, YOU'RE THE PAO PUBLIC AFFAIRS OFFICE.
YES, SIR. SO IN OTHER WORDS, THE STORY THAT YOU'RE GOING TO BE TOLD IS ALWAYS THE SAME BECAUSE IT'S SET OF ALL THESE STORIES IS NOT ONLY GOING TO GET ONE STORY, WHICH MAKES A WHOLE LOT OF SENSE.
CORRECT. BECAUSE EACH AND EVERY ONE OF US INTERPRET IT DIFFERENTLY.
THAT'S GREAT. WE CAN UNDERSTAND THAT, CAN'T WE? OF COURSE. ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANYTHING TO SAY? AND IF YOU DO, PLEASE COME TO THE PODIUM AND RECOGNIZE SO YOU'LL BE RECOGNIZED WITH YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS.
I GOT ONE QUESTION. COME ON UP TO THE PODIUM.
IS THIS GOING TO BE. ARE WE GOING TO DO THIS ON? IT IS ON THE AGENDA.
YOU PLEASE ACCEPT MY APOLOGIES.
OKAY. NOT ONLY CAN I NOT HERE, I'LL HAVE TROUBLE READING IT LOOKS LIKE, TOO.
WELL, I WASN'T GOING TO LET YOU FORGET IT.
ITEM 8.1 STRATEGIC REVENUE INITIATIVES.
OKAY. HAS ANYBODY ANY COMMENTS FROM THE AUDIENCE ON THAT? LET ME I'LL RUN THROUGH THE PRESENTATION AND THEN WE CAN TAKE COMMENTS.
GO AHEAD FOR YOUR PRESENTATION.
ALL RIGHT. I THOUGHT YOU WERE FINISHED WITH YOUR PRESENTATION.
SO THAT WAS WE KIND OF ROLLED INTO THE MARINA MANAGER'S REPORT AND THEN WE'LL FINISH UP WITH THIS.
MARINA HAS PREPARED THIS RATE IN THIS.
BASED ON OUR MARKET RESEARCH AND WAYS TO DRIVE REVENUE TO THE MARINA, WE'VE COME UP WITH THREE KEY COMMERCIAL OR I'M SORRY, THREE KEY RATES TO THE MARINA FOR ADDITIONAL REVENUE.
OF COURSE, THESE WILL GO BEFORE THE COMMISSION FOR APPROVAL.
SO THIS IS OUR PROPOSAL AND WHAT WE SEE THAT WE COULD DO TO ADD REVENUE TO THE MARINA.
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FIRST OF ALL, OUR PROPOSAL, NUMBER ONE IS TO ADD COMMERCIAL OPERATOR RATES.THE SECOND IS TIERED SUPERYACHT RATES, AND THE THIRD IS CONTRACTOR RATES.
JUST GO OVER A FEW POINTS OF THE COMMERCIAL OPERATOR RATE.
THE GOAL, OF COURSE, IS TO INTRODUCE A NEW COMMERCIAL SPECIFIC DOSAGE RATE.
THEY HAVE PARKING, THEY HAVE A CAPTIVE AUDIENCE.
THEY HAVE ADVERTISING ALONG THE BOARDWALK.
WE HAVE ENHANCED STAFF AND FACILITY USAGE WITH THE LEVEL OF CHARTERS THAT WE HAVE.
WE HAVE A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF EXTRA TRASH.
SO THERE IS A LOT OF ENHANCED MARINA USAGE.
OF COURSE, WE REFER BACK TO THE RATE STUDY THAT WE DID IN APRIL FOR THE MARINA ADVISORY BOARD AT YOUR REQUEST THAT SHOWED, IN ADDITION TO RAISING THE RATE FOR TRANSIENT BOATERS, THAT THE RATE NEEDED TO COVER EXPENSES WOULD BE $39 PER FOOT TO THE ANNUAL SLIP HOLDERS.
THAT'S ON TRANSIENTS, THAT'S ON ANNUAL SLIP HOLDERS ANNUAL SLIP.
RIGHT. SO OUR PROPOSAL IS TO INCREASE SEPARATE COMMERCIAL OPERATORS FROM RECREATIONAL INTRODUCE A $30 PER FOOT RATE FOR THE COMMERCIAL OPERATORS, AND WE EXPECT TO GENERATE $56,000 OF ADDITIONAL REVENUE FOR THE MARINA.
THE $30 PER FOOT RATE IS NOT A NEW RATE.
IT'S A RATE THAT WE ALREADY USE AT THE MARINA.
SO THE TRANSIENTS IS BASICALLY THE 30 PER FOOT, CORRECT.
REMIND ME AGAIN WHAT'S THE REGULAR PRICE PER THE PRICE RIGHT NOW IS 25.
THE SPREAD BETWEEN THEIR RECREATIONAL BOATS AND COMMERCIAL BOATS IS $6 THEY CHARGE OR SORRY, $5, $6.
THEY CHARGE $21 A FOOT FOR THE RECREATIONAL AND 27 FOR THEIR COMMERCIAL BOATERS.
RATE THAT WE PROPOSE IS A SUPERYACHT TIERED RATE.
AND THIS SIMPLY BREAKS BOATS OUT INTO TIERS.
THEY'LL BE BRACKETED INTO, SAY, BOATS FROM 70 TO 100FT, 100 TO 150FT, 150 TO 2, AND THEN 2 TO 250.
AND INTRODUCING A RATE THAT WOULD INCREASE INCREMENTALLY BY $0.25 PER FOOT FOR EACH BRACKET.
AND AGAIN, THIS IS SOMETHING THAT YOU SEE REALLY ACROSS THE INDUSTRY.
WE ESTIMATE AN ADDITIONAL 22% TO THE REVENUE FOR $98,000 PER YEAR OF ADDITIONAL REVENUE WITH THE SUPERYACHT RATE. AND OF COURSE WE CAN STAGGER THIS TO MATCH OUR SEASON AND OFF SEASON.
WE'LL JUST STAGGER THAT $0.25.
SEASONALITY, IF THAT MAKES SENSE.
THE THIRD RATE IS INTRODUCING CONTRACTOR FEES.
THEY'LL SAY, OH, MY AC IS BROKEN OR I NEED MY OIL CHANGED, OR JUST, YOU KNOW, A MYRIAD OF THINGS.
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CONDUCT THEIR BUSINESS.SO JUST TO OFFSET SOME OF THAT, IT'S QUITE COMMON TO CHARGE A SMALL FEE.
WE'RE PROPOSING $20 PER DAY TO THE CONTRACTORS AT AN ESTIMATED REVENUE.
IT'S HARD TO ESTIMATE, BUT WE ESTIMATE ABOUT $15,000 ADDITIONAL REVENUE.
NOW, WHEN YOU SAY A $20 PER DAY FEE, YOU DON'T TAKE A PERCENTAGE OF WHAT THEY'RE MAKING, RIGHT? NO. THEN THAT IS ANOTHER STRATEGY THAT SOME MARINAS DO.
THEY'LL TAKE A PERCENTAGE OF WHAT THE CONTRACTOR IS CHARGING THE BOATER.
I FEEL LIKE THAT'S GETTING A LITTLE MORE IN THE WEEDS AND BE MORE DIFFICULT FOR US TO TRACK.
THAT WOULD BE HARD. MORE DIFFICULT TO MANAGE.
THANK YOU. THAT'S MORE TRADITIONAL.
IF THE FACILITY IS CONTRACTING THE FOLKS TO COME DO THE WORK RATHER THAN PRIVATELY CONTRACTING.
RIGHT. OTHERWISE, YOU'RE ASKING FOR PRIVATE CONTRACTS.
I DON'T THINK THAT'S THE WAY THE MODEL IS SET UP.
YOU'RE TAKING A PERCENTAGE IF YOU OWN THE CONTRACT, RIGHT, MISS KATHY, WHERE DO DO THEY PREARRANGE TO PARK OR SOMETHING? BECAUSE THAT'S A CHALLENGE.
SO CONTRACTORS COME AND THEY'RE LOOKING FOR PARKING JUST LIKE EVERYONE ELSE IS.
TYPICALLY THEY'LL TRY TO GET THEY'LL COME EARLY IN THE MORNING AND THAT NEGATES THAT PROBLEM.
THIS IS A LITTLE TIED INTO THE GATES.
ONCE THE SECURITY GATES ARE INSTALLED, WE ALREADY HAVE THE SIGNAGE.
YOU'LL NOTICE WE HAVE THE SIGNAGE.
WE WILL HAVE THOSE SIGNS ON THE GATES AS WELL.
WE ALREADY KEEP A EVERYONE THAT COMES ON PROPERTY.
WE WE HAVE A SPREADSHEETS AND WE ALSO TRACK IT IN OUR OPERATING SYSTEM.
WE KEEP PHOTOCOPIES OF THEIR KEYS AND THEIR EXPIRATION DATES.
THIS JUST SEGUES NICELY INTO WHAT WE'RE ALREADY DOING AS AN ADDITIONAL REVENUE STREAM.
THE BOTTOM LINE FOR THE THREE INITIATIVES IS $56,000 FOR THE COMMERCIAL RATE.
98,000 FOR SUPERYACHTS AND 15 FOR CONTRACTORS FOR AN ESTIMATED ADDITIONAL $169,000 IN REVENUE PER YEAR. WE HAVE SOME THINGS THAT WE'LL NEED TO DO TO IMPLEMENT THESE INITIATIVES.
WE HAVE OUR KEY ACTIVITIES, OF COURSE, CONTRACT ADJUSTMENT.
WE'VE GOT THE WEBSITE ADJUSTMENT.
WE'LL PUT THE RATES OUT THERE, CHANGE THE RATES FOR THE SUPERYACHTS AND THE COMMERCIAL OPERATORS.
UPDATE OUR WEBSITE JUST THIS MORE OF A NOTES FOR US, BUT TO LET YOU KNOW THAT WE DO HAVE SOME THINGS THAT WE NEED TO DO IN ORDER TO START THESE INITIATIVES. AND THEN OF COURSE OUR KEY OUTCOMES IS INCREASED REVENUE TO THE MARINA.
WE CAN MAINTAIN INDUSTRY STANDARDS.
WE CAN ALSO MAINTAIN SECURITY BY KNOWING WHICH CONTRACTORS ARE ON PROPERTY.
WE WILL HAVE IMPROVED CUSTOMER SERVICE FOR CAPTAINS AND CREW.
AND THIS REALLY GOES BACK TO THE SECURITY GATES.
THE SECURITY GATES AGAIN WILL LIMIT NIGHTTIME TRAFFIC.
THESE ARE JUST SORT OF THINGS THAT WE WILL BENEFIT AND JUSTIFY THE TIERED PRICING FOR SUPERYACHTS.
OF YOU. ARE YOU PROVIDING SERVICE TO THE BOATS ON THE HOOK OUT IN THE MOORING FIELD TO GET THEIR CREWS THERE AND BACK LIKE A DINGHY SERVICE? NO, WE DO NOT.
YOU'RE NOT? NO, BECAUSE THAT WOULD BE ANOTHER OPTION TO MAKE MONEY.
SO THERE'S TWO INCOME SOURCES THAT YOU COULD GENERATE MONEY FROM, TOO.
SO IT'S ANOTHER WAY TO LOOK AT IT.
SURE. WE HAVE THOUGHT ABOUT THAT.
WE'VE NOT DONE A BIG RESEARCH EFFORT ON IT.
I DO KNOW THERE WILL BE ADDITIONAL EXPENSE WITH INSURANCE HAVING OUR TEAM GO OUT FOR HIRE OUT INTO THE MOORING FIELD OR TO BOATS ON ANCHOR REALLY PRESENTS AN INSURANCE, SOMETHING THAT WILL HAVE TO BE LOOKED AT.
WELL, YOU USED TO HAVE A BOAT FOR THAT PURPOSE, BUT IT WAS SITTING IN A WAREHOUSE SOMEWHERE.
YEAH, IT WAS CALLED THE NICKNAME BEFORE IT WAS THE ROYAL FLUSH BECAUSE OF SEWAGE.
OH, WE DO HAVE THE PUMP OUT BOAT, OF COURSE, WHICH WE USE TO GO OUT AND PUMP OUT THE BOATS.
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THE PUMP OUT BOAT, YOU KNOW, COULD ALSO BE CARRYING PASSENGERS.AT EACH POINT. WE COULD DEFINITELY PICK UP THEIR TRASH WHILE WE'RE OUT THERE.
AND THEN THE ADDENDUM, WE'VE JUST PULLED SOME MARKET RESEARCH.
WE DID A RATE STUDY HERE THAT YOU CAN SEE.
WE'RE CLOSE TO THE FISHING GROUNDS AND WE ARE IDEALLY SITUATED TO DOWNTOWN FERNANDINA.
WE'RE REALLY JUST A JEWEL AND A GEM AND IT'S SOMETIMES CHALLENGING TO FIND COMPARABLES THAT COMPARE TO FERNANDINA AS FAR AS WHERE WE'RE LOCATED AND THE BENEFITS THAT WE HAVE.
BUT THIS IS FOR THE TIERED RATE STUDY IN PARTICULAR.
WE REALLY REFERRED TO THIS PORT SAINT PETE MUNICIPAL MARINA AND SAINT AUGUSTINE MUNICIPAL MARINA FOR THE RATE, THE TIERED RATE STUDY BEING MUNICIPAL MARINAS COMPARES WELL TO US.
AND THEN YOU CAN SEE HERE IN THEIR HIGH SEASON HOW THEY TIER THEIR RATES.
WHAT IS THAT? I CAN HARDLY SEE THAT TWO 272 470 AND THEN 352 550 FOR SAINT PETE.
SO THAT'LL PUT US RIGHT IN THAT SAME BALLPARK.
WE'RE NOT JUST TO SHOW WE'RE NOT DOING ANYTHING UNUSUAL AND WE'RE MEETING THE MARKET.
OH, WELL, THEY ALL HAVE PARKING.
I'VE BEEN TO MOST OF THOSE MARINES, SURE, BUT SO THAT'S OUR RATE STUDY FOR THE TIERED RATES.
AND THEN AGAIN, HERE YOU SEE A LITTLE CHART JUST WITH THE BREAKDOWN ON THE LENGTHS OF THE BOAT, 72, 99, ETCETERA, AND THE NEW RATE AND THE ESTIMATED REVENUE THAT WILL GENERATE, IT'S ABOUT A 22% INCREASE OVERALL.
AND THEN THE COMMERCIAL RATE STUDY, AGAIN, LIKE I WAS SAYING, IT'S DIFFICULT TO YOU, SIR.
DID YOU NEED A REQUEST TO SPEAK FORM? NO, I GOT. SO DID YOU.
SO I'M SORRY. BECAUSE YOU HAVE TO IDENTIFY YOURSELF SO THAT.
ALL RIGHT. CAPTAIN NATE PARSONS.
AMELIA OFFSHORE. I'VE HAD A BUSINESS SINCE THE MARINA OPENED HERE WHERE I LIVE AT 95273 MCKINNIS CIRCLE IN FERNANDINA BEACH, FLORIDA. AND IT'S IN THE COUNTY.
I'M SORRY, I'M NOT A RESIDENT OF THE CITY, BUT THE SAINT AUGUSTINE.
ONE OF THE BIG DIFFERENCES BETWEEN THOSE IS SAINT AUGUSTINE IS MUNICIPALLY RUN BY THE CITY ITSELF.
AND SAINT PETERSBURG, I THINK IS RUN BY OASIS.
SO THAT'S ONE OF THE BIG THINGS THAT IS GOING BACK AND FORTH.
THAT'S WHY YOU SEE A BIG DISCREPANCY BETWEEN THOSE NUMBERS.
THANK YOU. I HAVE NO IDEA WHAT 90% OF WHAT HE SAID.
AND THEN THE LAST PAGE OF THE ADDENDUM IS THE COMMERCIAL RATE STUDY.
WHAT'S NOT DIFFICULT? THERE'S A LOT OF MARINAS OUT THERE, BUT THIS IS WHAT WE PULLED FROM.
I DID PUT TOGETHER MOST OF THIS INFORMATION.
AND THAT WAS REALLY JUST TO THE NORTH OF US AT HILTON HEAD.
AND THEN SHE DOES ALL THE BOOKINGS.
RIVIERA BEACH MUNICIPAL MARINA IS TWO MILES FROM THE INLET.
THEY HAVE A CHARTER BOATS THERE.
THEY CHARGE $31 PER FOOT AND ADDITIONAL $3 PER PERSON.
SO IF YOU HAVE A SIX PACK AND YOU'RE TAKING SIX PEOPLE OUT, THEY'RE CHARGING $3 PER HEAD FOR THAT.
ANOTHER COMPARABLE MARINA IS OREGON INLET MARINA IS A BIG FISHING GROUND TWO MILES FROM THE INLET, AND THEY CHARGE 3150, OF COURSE, ORTEGA OF RIVER, YOU'RE $19 A FOOT.
SAINT AUGUSTINE MUNICIPAL IS $18 A FOOT.
AND THEN, OF COURSE, AMELIA ISLAND MARINA IS $27 A FOOT.
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FOR COMMENTS. FOR ME.OH, YOU KNOW, THIS IS THE LAST SLIDE.
THANK YOU, SIR. WOLFGANG LINK 21160 STREET FERNANDINA.
I HAVE A QUESTION TO THIS PRESENTATIONS.
WOULD IT BE POSSIBLE TO HAVE THIS KIND OF PRESENTATION WITH A LOT OF INFORMATION FOR BETTER PREPARATION TO PUT THAT ON THIS AGENDA? IS IT POSSIBLE? IT'S POSSIBLE, YES.
AND I APOLOGIZE THAT THIS WASN'T ADDED TO THIS PARTICULAR MEETING.
ANYONE ELSE? YES, SIR. I FIGURED THAT.
ALAN MILLS, 1425 BROOME STREET, FERNANDINA BEACH, FLORIDA.
HOW MANY OF THESE MARINAS ON THIS PAGE RIGHT HERE ARE OWNED BY A CITY? I MEAN, THEY'RE ALL PRIVATELY OWNED EXCEPT FOR MAYBE SAINT AUGUSTINE MUNICIPAL.
YES. IS THAT CORRECT? THAT'S WHAT I THOUGHT THEY COULD CHARGE WHAT THEY LIKE THERE.
UM, ANOTHER QUESTION IS ALL OF OUR GOLF COURSES, OUR CITY RECREATION, THEY GIVE RESIDENTS, CITY RESIDENTS BREAKS IN THEIR RATES.
WHY DOESN'T THE MARINA DO THAT AS WELL? IT'S WRITTEN INTO THE CONTRACT THAT WE CANNOT OFFER DISCOUNT RATES TO RESIDENTS.
IT'S A CALLED OUT IN THE CONTRACT.
THAT'S THE CONTRACT BETWEEN THE CITY AND OASIS, CORRECT? THAT'S WHAT I THOUGHT. AND THAT IS TIED TO FUNDING.
SO AGAIN, IT'S TIED TO FUNDING.
IT'S TIED. IT'S A STIPULATION WITH WITH FUNDING TIED TO AT ONE TIME THEY DID GIVE CITY RESIDENTS A DISCOUNT AT ONE TIME. SO MY QUESTION IS HERE IS MOVING TO THE FUEL CELLS.
WE LOST OUT ON $671,500 OVERALL.
SO THAT'S A PROFIT TO THE CITY OF 201,000 AND SOME CHANGE.
CORRECT. THAT WE COULD HAVE HAD $300,000.
THAT'S RIGHT. AND ALL THE TRANSIENT SEASON DIESEL SALES HAVE BEEN DOWN DURING THE TRANSIT.
WE SENT EVERYBODY TO FLORIDA PETROLEUM LAST FALL.
IN THE FALL. THAT'S CORRECT. AND THIS YEAR, WE DID IT IN THE SPRING.
WELL, WE HAVE DIESEL IN THE SPRING.
YOU HAVE DIESEL? YES. WE'RE ONLY OUT GAS RIGHT NOW.
I KNOW RIGHT NOW. I'M TALKING ABOUT BACK IN MAY, APRIL, MAY.
WE WERE SENDING THEM TO FLORIDA PETROLEUM THERE.
SO WE DIDN'T HAVE DIESEL THEN.
SO WE LOST OUT ON THOSE SALES TOO.
AND NOW WE'VE BEEN OUT OF ALL SUMMER LONG OF GAS SALES.
THAT'S JUST A BIG REVENUE OF OVER $201,000 THAT THE CITY HAS LOST THERE.
THE GATES WERE APPROVED LAST YEAR.
I'M JUST CURIOUS WHY THEY HADN'T ALREADY BEEN INSTALLED.
THAT WAS BUDGETED AND ALL LAST YEAR.
WHAT WHAT THE HOLDUP IS THERE.
I'VE CHARLIE GEORGE HAS REACHED OUT.
I'VE BEEN INCLUDED IN THE EMAIL THREADS TO REACH OUT TO HAYWOOD FOR UPDATES ON WHY.
YOU KNOW WHAT? BECAUSE YOU HAVE THAT AS YOU HAVE IT.
HERE IS ADDITIONAL BONUSES AS GATES AND FOR GATES AND ALL THAT FOR SECURITY AND ALL THAT.
WELL, THEY SHOULD HAVE ALREADY BEEN UP.
I DON'T THINK THERE'S ANY MORE.
THERE MIGHT BE FOUR, BUT OTHER THAN THAT, YOU'VE LOST A CHARTER BOAT OR TWO.
A LOT OF COMMERCIAL BOATS HAVE PULLED OUT WHEN THEY RAISED THE RATES THE LAST TIME.
SO WHERE'S THE TRASH AND CLEANING THE BATHROOM DEAL? I MEAN, Y'ALL ARE UNDER CONTRACT TO KEEP THAT CLEAN NO MATTER HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE IN THE MARINA.
AND THOSE CRAIG CATS HAD THE SAME AMOUNT OF PEOPLE.
CHARTER BOATS TAKE THE SAME AMOUNT OF PEOPLE.
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GETTING A NEW BOAT. AND IF THEY'RE COMING IN HERE WITH IT, I'M JUST CURIOUS ABOUT THAT.SO YOU'RE BRINGING IN A BIGGER BOAT THAT CARRIES MORE PEOPLE.
HOW MANY RESERVATIONS DO THE STAFF CURRENTLY DO COMPARED TO SNAG? I COULDN'T SPEAK TO THAT.
I'M NOT SURE WHAT THE DOES NAG ASLEEP USUALLY DO THE BOOKING OR DO THEY ACTUALLY WRITE IT DOWN? IF FOLKS CALL THE MAIN NUMBER AND ESPECIALLY IF IT'S AFTER HOURS, THEN SNAG A SLIP TAKES THE RESERVATION.
WE STILL USE THE WEBSITE WHICH GOES THROUGH SNAG SLIP, BUT WE TAKE THE RESERVATION.
I HAD A RATE STUDY FOR A STUDY CONDUCTED BY THE IT DEPARTMENT IN THE LAST TRANSIENT SEASON FOR THE NUMBER OF PHONE CALLS THAT THE MARINA RECEIVES. WE ESTIMATE 90 TO 100 PHONE CALLS PER DAY DURING THE TRANSIENT SEASON.
THAT WAS FOR. SO HOW MANY OF THOSE 100 CALLS DID THE WORKERS DO CALLS ARE RESERVATIONS.
RIGHT. BUT HOW MANY DO THEY BOOK VERSUS NAGYSALLO? I'M SURE YOU HAVE IT WRITTEN DOWN.
IF YOU GO BACK, HOW MANY RESERVATIONS HAVE BEEN DONE THROUGH SNAG VERSUS THE MARINA? WE MAKE OUR RESERVATIONS THROUGH THE WEBSITE, WHICH HAS A WIDGET OR A CONNECTION TO SNAG A SLIP.
SO THEY GET A PERCENTAGE OF IT ALL THROUGH SNAG.
SO IT DOESN'T MATTER IF THEY BOOK IT, THEN SNAG A SLIP GETS THE 7 OR 8% AUTOMATICALLY.
SO SNAG SLIP COLLECTS EVERYTHING.
THEY GET A PERCENTAGE OF EVERY BOOKING THAT COMES INTO THE MARINA.
AND THAT STANDARD RATE IS 7 TO 8%.
WHAT DID WE PAY, SNAG OR SLIP IN COMMISSIONS LAST YEAR? I THINK WE'RE BUDGETED THIS UPCOMING YEAR FOR 73,000 THAT THEY COLLECT IN IN REVENUE.
ALL RIGHT. AMELIA ISLAND HAS A COMMERCIAL HAUL OUT AND ALL TALKING ABOUT DOCKAGE THERE THAT THEY GET SEVEN, 20, $27 A FOOT.
THEY HAVE LIFT. THEY HAVE PEOPLE THAT HELP YOU OUT.
EVERYTHING. BUT THEY ARE A LITTLE FURTHER AWAY.
TIGER POINT, WHICH WASN'T MENTIONED, THEY GET $18 A FOOT.
THEY'RE CLOSEST TO THE MARINA.
THEY HAVE A SHIP STORE WITH ALL KINDS OF STUFF TO HELP YOU OUT.
THEY HAVE MECHANICS ON STAFF AND ALL, AND THEN THAT'S A BIG BONUS THERE.
THEY HAVE FUEL THERE AND THEY HAVE THEY DO NOT HAVE FUEL.
WE COME TO THE CITY MARINA TO GET FUEL WHEN THEY DO HAVE FUEL.
WHERE'S EVERYBODY GOING NOW TO GET FUEL? GASOLINE. I THINK THEY GO TO THE YACHT BASIN OR THEY CARRY IT BY JUGS ON THERE.
ADVERTISEMENT. THE POINT IS, I'M GETTING TO ABOUT THE SNAGGY SLIP.
WE SPEND $60,000 A YEAR IN ADVERTISEMENT AND YOU'RE BOOKED UP THROUGH THE TRANSIT SEASON AND ALL.
YOU CAN CUT THAT ADVERTISEMENT BY FOR $40,000, $20,000.
MORE THAN ENOUGH. THE MARINA IS TAKING CARE OF ITSELF.
THE MARINA HAS BEEN UP AND RUNNING FOR FOUR YEARS.
THEY'VE ALREADY MADE THIS A DESTINATION STOP.
I THINK THE CITY CAN SAVE $40,000, AT LEAST IN ADVERTISEMENT.
I MEAN, THAT'S A $60,000 IS A BIG TICKET ITEM FOR ADVERTISEMENT.
THAT'LL SAVE YOU MONEY RIGHT THERE.
LET SNAGGY SLIP PICK UP SLACK.
2%. I MEAN, MAKES SENSE FOR THE CITY TO LET THEM DO IT.
I MEAN, THAT'S WHAT IT'S GOING TO PAY MOST OF THE BILL IS THE TRANSIENTS.
IF THE MARINA WOULD COLLECT FROM ALL THE NON PAYING SHAREHOLDERS, SLIP HOLDERS, NON PAYING SLIP HOLDERS, IT WOULD INCREASE THE CONTRACTOR'S FEE BECAUSE THEY'RE ACTUALLY A CONTRACTOR DOUBLE.
SO INSTEAD OF 15,000, YOU COULD GET 30,000 OUT THERE IF YOU DID IT LIKE THEY DID BEFORE.
THEY PICK UP AND DROP OFF AT G DOCK.
PLENTY OF PARKING, NOT TAKING CARE OF THE MAIN STUFF.
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THEY PAY. LAST TIME IT WAS DONE IT WAS $1,500 A BOAT.THERE'S SEVERAL OF THEM THAT HAVE SLIPS NOW AND THEY DIDN'T HAVE A PROBLEM PAYING IT.
THAT'S MONEY THAT THIS MARINA IS LEAVING OFF THE TABLE THAT WILL HELP OUT OFFSET ALL THESE EXPENSES.
THE COST OF LIVING LAST YEAR WAS 8.7% INCREASE.
IF YOU JUST WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT UP THERE IS A 20% INCREASE, A DOCKAGE IF YOU JUST DO 10%, YOU'RE GOING TO CUT YOUR MONEY OFF AT 10%.
SUPER YACHTS IS GOING TO BRING YOU IN.
98,000 CONTRACTORS, YOU GOT A POSSIBLE OF 30,000.
SO THAT BRINGS YOUR ANNUAL UP TO 151,000.
AND IF YOU ADD FUEL SALES BACK TO IT, WE'RE AT ALMOST $400,000, $392,450. WHAT'S WRONG WITH THAT PICTURE? I MEAN, THAT'S A BIG INCREASE.
GETTING THE MARINA BACK UP AND RUNNING.
THE MARINA HAS NOT BEEN UP AND RUNNING SINCE IT'S BEEN OPEN.
THERE'S ALWAYS BEEN ONE HICCUP VERSUS ANOTHER.
WE JUST SPENT OVER $1 MILLION ON A WALKWAY, BUT YET WE CAN'T FIX 18FT OF THE WALKWAY AROUND THE RIVER AT THE MARINA. I MEAN, WHAT ARE WE DOING? OH, I KNOW THERE'S MONEY RIGHT HERE THAT YOU CAN INCREASE ALL THAT UP.
LET'S GET THIS. LET'S GET IT GOING.
RIGHT? I MEAN, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT MORE MONEY THAN FOR SLIPS IN NORTHEAST FLORIDA.
NOW, IF YOU GO TO 2750, I MEAN, THERE'S OTHER WAYS TO CUT THE BUDGET.
AND I THINK YOU NEED TO LOOK AT MORE THAN JUST DOCKAGE THERE.
I THINK YOU ALREADY HAD TO DO THIS TRASH AND ALL THAT.
SO WE DON'T NEED TO INCREASE THAT.
OASIS WAS HIRED AND KNEW WHAT THEY HAD TO DO, SO LET'S JUST DO IT AND WORK TOGETHER, GET A MARINA WORKING AND GET IT WHERE IT CAN CARRY ITSELF WITHOUT HURTING EVERYBODY ELSE.
AND IF YOU CAN'T INCREASE THE RATE FOR COMMERCIAL VERSUS THE REGULAR SLIP HOLDER, WHICH YOU JUST TOLD ME YOU CAN'T DO, THEN YOU CAN'T RAISE COMMERCIAL RATE VERSUS A REGULAR SLIP HOLDER BECAUSE ONE PRICE IS GOOD FOR ALL UNLESS THEY'RE TRANSIENT FROM WHAT YOU JUST SAID.
ANYBODY GOT A QUESTION? I'LL JUST HAVE SOMETHING TO SAY.
AND I HOPE THIS COMES OUT RIGHT.
THANK YOU. BASED ON WHAT ALAN WAS SAYING JUST NOW, AND I'VE HAD THIS FEELING SINCE I FOUND OUT THAT THE FUEL PEOPLE WEREN'T BEING ABLE TO GET FUEL.
IS THAT IT ALMOST SEEMS TO ME LIKE THEY WANT THE MARINA TO FAIL.
THEY IS I DON'T KNOW WHO THE ENTITY IS, BUT WITH EVERYTHING THAT KEEPS HAPPENING WITH THESE HICCUPS AND ALL, IT'S ALMOST LIKE THERE IS SOMEBODY OR AN ENTITY OUT THERE, WHETHER IT'S THE CITY OR WHO IT IS THAT'S WANTING THIS MARINA TO FAIL.
DOES ANYBODY ELSE OUT HERE FEEL THAT WAY? BASED ON WHAT WE'RE SEEING, EVERYBODY ON THIS BOARD FEELS THAT WAY.
I WANTED TO BE ON THIS COMMITTEE TO HELP SAVE THAT MARINA.
AND IF I'VE GOT A QUESTION, NO, I AM NOT A CITY COMMISSIONER.
AND THERE ARE PEOPLE THAT ASK ME QUESTIONS ALL THE TIME.
Y'ALL DIDN'T ELECT ME THIS TIME.
YOU DIDN'T ELECT ME FOR ANYTHING.
SO I'M VOLUNTEERING MY TIME NOT GETTING PAID TO FIND OUT THESE ANSWERS.
IT'S CONTINUAL. WELL, WHY DON'T WE HAVE GAS? I DON'T KNOW WHY WE DON'T HAVE GAS, BUT I'M GOING TO BRING IT UP.
THEN OUR MEETING GETS CANCELED.
AND IF I'M GOING TO BE ON THIS BOARD TO HELP, NO, I'M NOT MAKING DECISIONS.
BUT WE'RE ALL ON HERE TO HELP FACILITATE, TO BRING IDEAS SO THAT THE CITY COMMISSION CAN BE INFORMED AND THE PUBLIC THAT COMES TO BE INFORMED AND MAKE DECISIONS TO MAKE THINGS BETTER.
DID THAT COME OUT RIGHT? YEAH. BY THE WAY, WEREN'T YOU AND MISS CHAPMAN GOING TO LOOK INTO WHY PARKS AND REC DEPARTMENT HAS CONTROL OVER THE PARKING LOT AND EVERYTHING WHEN IT USED TO BE PART OF THE MARINA?
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WASN'T THAT ONE OF OUR MEETINGS ABOUT 4 OR 5 MONTHS AGO AND YOU SAID YOU WERE GOING TO TALK AND YOU WERE GOING TO TALK TO FIGURE OUT HOW COME THE ONLY FUNDING THAT THE MARINA GETS IS BASICALLY FROM BOATERS AND NOT FROM THE OLD DAYS WHEN IT WAS ORIGINALLY SET UP THAT THE CITY MARINA ACTUALLY HAD DIRT THAT IT COULD USE TO PRODUCE MONEY.I DON'T RECALL THAT, BUT I THINK WE BROUGHT THAT UP AND THERE WAS SOME DISCUSSION ON WHEN THAT HAPPENED, WHEN THAT PARK THING MOVED OVER THAT WAS, YOU KNOW, IF YOU CAN IF YOU'D LOOK INTO THAT, WOULD GREATLY APPRECIATE IT, BECAUSE I AGREE WITH YOU.
THE WAY THE MARINA IS SET UP, IT'S IMPOSSIBLE TO MAKE IT COST EFFECTIVE WITHOUT REALLY RAISING THE RATES AND RUNNING EVERYBODY OFF, BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN.
YOU RAISE THE RATES TO A POINT WHERE EVERYBODY LEAVES AND NOW YOU DON'T HAVE ANYTHING.
SO YOU HAVE TO KEEP THE RATES AT A LEVEL WHERE YOU HAVE ENOUGH POPULARITY TO COME INTO THE MARINA.
SO THEY'RE HELPING TO FUND IT THROUGH THE CITY.
SO, YOU KNOW, THAT PUTS A BIGGER BURDEN ON, YOU KNOW, RESIDENTS OF THE CITY.
SO THAT'S SOMEWHAT OF A PROBLEM.
NOW, I HAVE ONE OTHER ISSUE THAT I SHOULD HAVE BROUGHT UP.
I GOT A COMPLAINT FROM A PERSON THAT HAS A LONG TERM SLIP IN THE MARINA, AND THEY WENT OUT ON THEIR BOAT FOR THE DAY.
AND SO THEY WERE TOLD TO GO TO ANOTHER PLACE.
WELL, THESE PEOPLE HAVE JOBS AND THEY PAY GOOD MONEY TO HAVE A SLIP.
SO I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'RE AWARE OF THAT HAPPENED.
WAS THIS ONE OF OUR ANNUAL SLIP HOLDERS, ONE OF YOUR ANNUAL SLIP HOLDERS? MM. AND I'VE NEVER BEEN IN A MARINA WITH MY BOAT WHERE IF I'M PAYING FOR THE SLIP, THAT SLIP STAYS AVAILABLE.
IF I'M. UNLESS, OF COURSE, I'M.
I'VE TOLD YOU I'M GOING TO BE GONE FOR SIX MONTHS.
AND THEN, OF COURSE, YOU'RE GOING TO USE THE SLIP AND STILL CHARGE ME.
OKAY. BUT IF YOU'RE JUST OUT FOR THE DAY, NOBODY SHOULD BE MOVED INTO SOMEBODY'S SLIP.
THANK YOU. AND I WANT TO SAY ONE MORE THING ABOUT WHAT ALAN SAID, BECAUSE THAT JUST MADE ME THINK.
ALAN SAID THAT YEARS AGO, THAT PEOPLE WHO LIVE IN THE CITY GOT, YOU KNOW, LIKE THEY GET A DISCOUNT.
SO HOW COME THE CONTRACT CAN'T BE AMENDED TO ALLOW THE PEOPLE WHO I MEAN, I'M PUTTING THAT'S A QUESTION TO YOU TO GET AN ANSWER AND SO AND THEN EMAIL THAT TO US SO THAT WE KNOW AHEAD OF TIME IF YOU DON'T MIND, I THINK THE CONTRACT CAN BE AMENDED AND I THINK THAT'S A CITY COMMISSION ISSUE THAT THE CITY COMMISSION HAS TO TAKE ON, NOT US.
OKAY. BUT I'M BRINGING IT FORWARD.
WHENEVER THE CONTRACT WAS ORIGINALLY PROPOSED, THIS BOARD WENT INTO GREAT LENGTHS READING PAGE TWO PAGE WORD FOR WORD, TRYING TO TAKE THAT CONTRACT APART BECAUSE THERE WERE CERTAIN THINGS IN THERE WE DIDN'T LIKE, BUT OUR COMMENTS WERE IGNORED BY THE COMMISSIONERS.
SORRY. GO AHEAD, MR. ROSS. [INAUDIBLE] STREET.
I'M GOING TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION ABOUT MY UNDERSTANDING.
IF MY MEMORY SERVES ME CORRECT AND I'M GETTING OLDER, IT'S NOT QUITE AS GOOD AS IT USED TO BE.
IT'S GOT TO DO WITH FINE WHO GIVES US THE SHARE.
GOING TO GIVE US $326,000 AND GIVES US $250,000.
SO THAT'S WHY THERE'S NO BENEFIT TO THE CITY RESIDENTS.
YOU TELL ME WHAT THAT NUMBER IS BECAUSE I DON'T LIKE.
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YOU COULD GIVE THE DISCOUNT TO ANYBODY IN NASSAU COUNTY, THEN.I'M GOING TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION FIRST.
IT'S FLORIDA INLAND NAVIGATION DISTRICT.
WELL, I'M GOING TO POINT OUT TWO OTHER THINGS I'M GOING TO POINT OUT TO CURRENT EXISTS.
YOU COULD GIVE THE GIVE A DISCOUNT TO EVERYBODY IN NASSAU COUNTY, RIGHT? GIVE A DISCOUNT TO EVERYBODY IN THE WORLD IF YOU WANT, AS LONG AS THEY'RE NOT FERNANDINA ONE IN NASSAU THE OTHER.
RIGHT? CORRECT. YOU CAN DO THAT.
YOU CAN GIVE A DISCOUNT TO EVERYBODY IN THE WORLD IF YOU WANT.
SO THEY'RE SUBSIDIZING THE MARINA.
WELL, IT COMES OUT OF OUR POCKET.
SO THEY'RE SUBSIDIZED. THE MARINA.
AND TIM SPRATTO WILL TALK TO THIS.
SO THIS YEAR, TO GET BACK TO WHERE WE WERE PREVIOUSLY, YOU GOT TO DREDGE ABOUT 14 1450YD³ AT 75 BUCKS A YARD.
YOU CAN DO THE MATH AND THAT COMES OUT TO ABOUT $1.1 MILLION.
SO THAT MONEY STILL HASN'T BEEN FIGURED OUT YET.
AND WE'RE SUBSIDIZING BUSINESSES THERE.
THE BUSINESS IS PART OF THAT RATE.
WHETHER IT'S THEY'RE NOT PAYING FOR PARKING.
THERE'S PARKING THERE. YOU CAN GO ON PARKING LOT C AND D, YOU GET WATER.
I MEAN, THAT IS A COMMERCIAL BUSINESS RUNNING OUT OF THERE.
CITY DOESN'T DO THAT FOR THE PEOPLE ON MAIN STREET.
THEY DON'T PAY FOR ALL THOSE EXPENSES.
THE TAXPAYERS ARE PAYING FOR THE PARKING.
THAT'S TRUE. BUT IT'S A BUSINESS.
SO WE'RE TRYING TO RUN THIS LIKE WE'RE ALWAYS TOLD.
THIS IS AN ENTERPRISE AND IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE RUN LIKE A BUSINESS.
AND SO YOU NEED TO COME UP WITH YOUR COSTS.
YEAH. DOES THE. WORK COMPLETELY PAY FOR ITSELF.
THE AIRPORT HAS A SUGAR DADDY.
AND THERE'S ALL KINDS OF STRINGS ATTACHED WITH THAT.
AND SO IF YOU FIND ME, IF YOU CAN FIND THE SUGAR DADDY FOR THIS, WE CAN DO WHAT THE AIRPORT DOES.
SO THE ANSWER TO YOUR QUESTION IS NO.
AND THE GOLF COURSE THIS YEAR IS NOT BEING SUBSIDIZED AT ALL.
OKAY. THANK YOU. I'M NOT GOING TO SAY THAT IS WHAT IS IN THE BUDGET.
THANK YOU. SO, OKAY, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? I THINK WE'VE RUN THIS INTO THE I'VE GOT ONE MORE QUESTION DIRECTLY RELATED TO THIS, BUT TO GET TO IT A LITTLE BIT TO WHAT CHIP WAS TALKING ABOUT, WHAT'S THE SHORTFALL GOING TO BE THIS YEAR AS A RESULT OF THE LOSS OF FUEL? WHAT THE.
NO. THAT'S JUST THAT'S ISOLATED.
I MEAN, OVERALL, HOW MUCH ARE WE GOING TO FALL SHORT IN THE MARINA JUST COVERING ITS BASIC COSTS REGARDLESS OF DREDGING OVERALL AT THE END OF THE YEAR, OVERALL? YEAH. WHAT ARE YOU PROJECTING? I'LL HAVE TO GET THAT FOR YOU.
I DON'T HAVE MY OVERALL SHORTFALL FOR THE YEAR.
I'VE GOT THE OVERALL SHORTFALL.
WHERE ARE WE AT RIGHT NOW? ARE WE IN BLACK OR IN RED? WE ARE IN THE BLACK.
THAT'S ABOUT 1.4. 1.5 ACTUALLY.
ARE WE GOING TO PRETTY MUCH BREAK EVEN OR MAKE A LITTLE MONEY? BUT IT DOESN'T COVER THE DREDGING AND IT DOESN'T COVER THE DEBT, BUT IT DOES COVER INSURANCE AND INSURANCE, AGAIN, FOR 468,000 TO $506,000. SO IT DOES COVER THAT.
SO THEY ARE PAYING FOR THE DEBT.
THEY'RE NOT PAYING FOR THE DEBT.
THEY'RE PAYING PART OF THE DREDGING.
THEY'RE PAYING FOR THE INSURANCE FOR THE ATTENUATOR.
YEAH. SO AND THEY'RE STILL GOING TO PROBABLY BE CLOSE TO BREAKING EVEN OR MAKE A LITTLE MONEY, BUT THAT DOESN'T INCLUDE ALL THE DREDGING. IT DOESN'T INCLUDE THE DEBT.
SO BUT THAT IS FINE WITHOUT THE INCOME FROM THE FINAL? CORRECT? YEAH. BUT WOULD STILL BE SHORT WITH THE DREDGING.
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DREDGING IS NOT PAID FOR RIGHT NOW.IT'S NOT IN THE BUDGET THAT'S NOT GOING TO GET YOU THERE.
$169,000 IS NOT GOING TO GET YOU THERE.
HOW MUCH IS THE MARINA CONTRIBUTING OR HOW MUCH IS THE IS FUNDED FOR THE DREDGING OR ESTIMATING 326,000 PER YEAR? IT IS ON A SCALE IT DEPENDS ON WHAT COMES IN THROUGH THE TAXES.
I THINK IT'S REMAINS AROUND 300 TO 325.
SO THAT'S THE CONTRIBUTION PER YEAR.
YOU GOT DREDGE EVERY OTHER YEAR.
HOW MUCH DOES THAT COST YOU BY HOW MUCH DONATION THAT IS? THAT IS THE DONATION, THE THREE 325 ESTIMATED FOR THIS YEAR.
SO IT GIVES YOU 600,000 AGAINST $1.1 MILLION BILL.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, MISS KATHY? GO AHEAD, GENTLEMEN. I'LL COME BACK TO THAT.
NATE PARSONS, 95273 MCKINNEY CIRCLE.
FIRST IS HAVING TO DO WITH DREDGING.
THE AREA THAT YOU GUYS ARE DREDGING HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH INCOME AT THE MARINA.
IT HAS TO DO WITH THE QUALITY OF LIFE OF FOLKS IN TOWN.
THERE'S A FOOT OF WATER THERE.
YOU'RE GETTING NO MONEY FROM THAT DOCK ANYWAYS OR VERY LITTLE.
NO ONE'S COLLECTING VERY OFTEN.
AND IT ALSO SERVES THE BOAT RAMP.
AND SO ROLLING OVER 1 OR 2 YEARS BECAUSE THE LAST YOU DIDN'T, YOU DREDGED LAST YEAR.
BUT YOU COULD ROLL OVER AND YOU KNOW, IF YOU EVEN DID TWO YEARS, THE PEOPLE ON THE INSIDE DOCKS AND THERE ARE A LOT OF SKINNY BOATS THAT ARE IN THERE WOULD WOULD HAVE PROBLEMS AT LOW TIDE GETTING OUT.
THERE'S VERY LITTLE WATER COMING AROUND THE CORNER, GOING TO DOCK.
AND THE OTHER THING IS, WHEN I ARRIVED HERE IN WHEN WE FIRST MOVED OUR BOAT UP HERE FROM THE YACHT BASIN, WE WERE THE SECOND BOAT IN THE MARINA IN FEBRUARY OF 2020, AND WE WERE VERY HAPPY TO COME HERE.
OKAY. WE ARE NOW THREE YEARS LATER.
AND IT KEEPS GOING UP INCREMENTALLY.
YOU KNOW, I HAVE A COUPLE OPTIONS.
I CAN SELL MY BOAT AND CLOSE THAT PART OF THE BUSINESS.
I CAN MOVE MY BOAT TO SOMEWHERE ELSE.
WHY NOT? WHY I CAME HERE AND NOT WHY I BROUGHT THE BOAT DOWN TO DO THAT OR SOMETHING ELSE.
AND SO THEY'RE YOU KNOW, YOU'RE GOING TO LOSE PEOPLE IF YOU RAISE THE RATES.
AND YOU KNOW, YOU LOOKED AT THOSE NUMBERS AND THERE'S SAINT AUGUSTINE CAN RUN THE MARINA BY THEMSELVES WITHOUT AN OUTSIDE COMPANY.
AND, YOU KNOW, WE'VE GOT PEOPLE KATHY'S COMPETENT TO RUN THERE, PEOPLE THAT CAN RUN THIS PLACE WITHOUT AN OUTSIDE INSTITUTION RUNNING IT OR OR A THIRD PARTY PROSPECT.
YOU KNOW, IT MIGHT SUPPORT BUSINESSES THAT OUT OF THERE LIKE MINE AND PLENTY OTHERS.
BUT THE BENEFIT IS NOT JUST SEEING AND EVERYTHING FROM THE PARKING LOT TO THE WATER.
THE BENEFIT IS SEEN ALL UP AND DOWN THE, YOU KNOW, 600 PLUS ACRES OF THE CITY.
SO IF IT COSTS $1.2 MILLION TO DREDGE EVERY ONCE IN A WHILE OR, YOU KNOW, HOWEVER, THERE'S A BENEFIT TO NOT JUST THE PEOPLE THAT USE IT FROM THE PARKING LOT TO THE WATER.
THE OTHER PART I WOULD SAY THE OTHER THING THAT IT'S HARD TO PUT IT ALL TOGETHER.
I'M PROBABLY WAY BEYOND THREE MINUTES, BUT.
BECAUSE THEY DON'T DO SHORT AND I'LL COME BACK UP AGAIN WHEN I REMEMBER IT.
BUT IT'S JUST IMPORTANT THAT IT'S IMPORTANT FOR FOLKS AND IT DRIVES THE CITY.
THE MARINA IS AN ASSET TO THE CITY AND TO THE COUNTY.
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IN THIS CITY.ESPECIALLY WHEN SOMETHING LIKE ONE OF THE RIVERBOATS COMES IN HERE AND ROARS UP TO THE MARINA.
YOU GOT A LOT OF PEOPLE ON BOARD.
AND EVEN THOUGH EVERYTHING'S PAID FOR ON THE SHIP, THEY STILL COME OUT HERE AND SPEND MONEY.
SO, YOU KNOW, IF IT COSTS THE CITY SOME MONEY TO HELP FUND THAT MARINA, THEN IT'S THEY'RE GETTING BACK A LOT OF IT IN TAX MONEY FROM THE SALE OF DIFFERENT THINGS IN THE CITY.
THERE'S NO CITY COMPONENT TO SALES TAX.
I BEG TO DIFFER, SIR, AND HERE'S WHY.
SALES TAX IS COLLECTED BY THE STATE OF FLORIDA.
I KNOW. AND IT ALL GOES INTO ONE POT.
AND THAT POT, NO MATTER HOW MUCH THE CITY PUTS INTO THAT POT, GETS, WE'RE BASED ON OUR POPULATION, OUR PERMANENT POPULATION OF 13,000.
NOW, REMEMBER, THOUGH, A PIECE OF THAT COMES BACK TO THE CITY A PIECE, BUT IT'S NOT ENOUGH.
SO PARKS AND REC TOOK IT OVER.
SO IF YOU WANT TO PAY FOR THAT TOO, YOU CAN HAVE IT BACK.
HOW MUCH MONEY DOES THE PLAYGROUND GENERATE AS FUNDS TO THE CITY? THEY'RE NOT GENERATING ANYTHING AT ALL.
OR SHOULD THEY COST YOU MONEY THOUGH, RIGHT? THAT'S YEAH.
PARKS AND EVERYTHING. THEY COST YOU MONEY, RIGHT? IT'S 18% OF THE BUDGET OF THE CITY.
PAY FOR THOSE, RIGHT? CORRECT. OKAY.
SO WHAT'S THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN ALL THAT AND THE MARINA? BECAUSE THE MARINA IS JUST LIKE A PARK, EXCEPT IT HAPPENS TO HAVE BOATS IN IT.
RIGHT. OKAY. AND IT GENERATES SOME FUNDS AND YES, IT HAS OVERHEAD.
BUT, HEY, EVERY PARK IN THIS CITY, EVERY PARK IN THIS COUNTY HAS OVERHEAD.
DO I THINK THE MARINA IS A GOOD THING? YES. HAVE I SUPPORTED THE MARINA OVER THE YEARS? YES. DID I HELP GET ALL THIS STUFF TAKEN CARE OF? YES. SO I'VE SPENT A GREAT DEAL OF TIME AND EFFORT ON THIS.
OKAY. BECAUSE THEY DON'T WANT TO PUT A PENNY INTO IT.
BUT SO HOW DID IT BECOME AN ENTERPRISE FUND? ENTERPRISE FUND UNDER VERY SIMPLY, IT BECAME AN ENTERPRISE FUND BECAUSE THEY HAVE DEBT AND THEY USE THE THEY SELL SERVICES AND THEY USE THAT MONEY TO PAY DOWN DEBT.
BUT IT WASN'T AN ENTERPRISE FUND ORIGINALLY.
AND WHEN IT WAS BUILT, IT WAS BUILT BY A GUY NAMED BILL ALLISON AND CENTER STREET RESTAURANT GROUP.
AND THAT'S A WHOLE NOTHER STORY THAT'S GOT WE DON'T NEED TO GO INTO.
THAT WAS A GREAT EXPLANATION OF WHY IT'S AN ENTERPRISE FUND.
THAT'S WHY IT'S AN ENTERPRISE FUND.
NO, I MEAN, IT'S GOT TO DO WITH ACCOUNTING RULES AS THE WASTEWATER FUND IS AN ENTERPRISE FUND.
SURE. THE AIRPORT'S AN ENTERPRISE FUND.
THAT'S THE KEY. THAT'S THE KEY.
AND USING CHARGING FOR SERVICES, WE DON'T CHARGE FOR SERVICES IN THE PARKS.
THAT'S WHY THEY'RE NOT ENTERPRISE FUNDS.
THANK YOU. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? ARE WE I JUST HAVE A COMMENT ON THIS UP HERE.
THE 20% FOR THE COMMERCIAL SEEMS LIKE A BIG HIT TO ME.
AND I'M WONDERING IF THERE'S A WAY TO MAYBE JUST DO THE INCREASE OF DO A 10% INCREASE AND THEN SPREAD THE DIFFERENCE AROUND AND INCREASE THE RATES MORE, THE TRANSIENT OR MAYBE THE CONTRACTOR FEES TO COMPENSATE FOR THAT? BECAUSE MY THOUGHT IS THAT THE COMMERCIAL RATES THESE ARE THE PEOPLE THAT ARE LONG TERM.
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THEY'RE GOING TO BE HERE.THEY'RE DEDICATED PRETTY MUCH TO THIS MARINA.
I MEAN, THIS THEY RUN THEIR BUSINESS OUT OF HERE AND.
I THINK WE SHOULDN'T BE THAT BIG OF A HIT TO THESE GUYS.
AND I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THE RIG BROUGHT DOWN TO LIKE A 10% AND THEN THAT SPREAD OVER TO THE I DON'T CARE IF THE TRANSIENT RATE GOES UP A LITTLE MORE. I THINK IT SHOULD BE.
BUT THE CONTRACTOR RATE AND THEN THE SUPERYACHT RATES I'M FINE WITH.
BUT I JUST HAVE A LITTLE HEARTBURN OVER THAT 20% INCREASE.
SURE. THANK YOU. AND I AGREE WITH THAT, TOO, BECAUSE IF ALAN AND THE PEOPLE THAT ARE RUNNING THESE COMMERCIAL BUSINESSES, THEY'VE LIVED HERE ALL THEIR LIFE, MOST OF THEM, AND THEY'RE PAYING TAXES.
AND I DON'T THINK THAT IT SHOULD GO UP.
BUT PEOPLE WHO KEEP COMING HERE WERE ADVERTISING FOR PEOPLE TO KEEP COMING HERE.
IT'S A DESTINATION AND THOSE PEOPLE CAN PAY.
I AGREE WITH THAT WHOLEHEARTEDLY.
THIS ISLAND IS GETTING INUNDATED.
Y'ALL DON'T WANT TO OPEN THAT CAN WITH ME.
THESE HOUSES, THEY'RE BUILDING EVERYWHERE, LIKE MATCHBOX UP TO THE HEAVEN.
I THINK WE'VE RUN ALL THIS INTO THE GROUND.
VACANCY RATE OR HAVE YOU LOST SLIPS BECAUSE OF THE FUEL? HAVE PEOPLE LEFT? BECAUSE NO FUEL? MOST OF OUR WE PROBABLY HAVE.
WE DID HAVE THE FISHING TOURNAMENT AND THOSE BOATS HAD TO GO TO AMELIA TO GET THEIR FUEL.
AND SO THAT WAS A BIT OF A HARDSHIP.
SO WE PROBABLY HAVE LOST SOME SMALLER BOATS BECAUSE OF THE FUEL, BUT I KNOW THAT A LOT OF THEM DID MAKE ARRANGEMENTS TO GO TO AMELIA TO GET THEIR FUEL SO THEY COULD STILL SEE IT. YOU HAVE A WAITING LIST NOW? YES. THANKS.
OKAY, I'M CUTTING THE DISCUSSION OFF.
OKAY. OUR NEXT MEETING WILL BE SEPTEMBER THE 25TH, IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN.
SO AT THAT TIME, I'M GOING TO ASK BARBARA HERE TO ACT AS CHAIRMAN, BECAUSE I WILL NOT BE ABLE TO HEAR ANY LOT LESS THAN I CAN NOW.
SO I'M GOING TO ASK HER TO TAKE OVER UNTIL I'LL BE HERE, BUT I WON'T BE ABLE TO HEAR ANYTHING.
SO ANYWAY, I WANT TO THANK EVERYBODY FOR BEING HERE TONIGHT AND I NOW MOTION TO ADJOURN.
SECOND. CONSIDER THIS MEETING ADJOURNED.
THANK YOU.
* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.