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I LIKE TO CALL THE MEETING FOR THE PARKS AND RECREATION ADVISORY COMMITTEE.
[1. CALL TO ORDER]
REGULAR MEETING SCHEDULED FOR JULY THE 11TH, 2023.WOULD YOU PLEASE STAND? OH, PLEASE CALL THE ROLL.
STAND FOR THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE?
[4. APPROVAL OF MINUTES]
NUMBER FOUR, APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES FOR ONE JUNE 23 REGULAR MEETING MINUTES.I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE.
4.2., JUNE 23, SPECIAL MEETING MINUTES.
OKAY. ARE YOU READY FOR ME TO CALL THE ROLL? YES. OKAY. MEMBER.
NUMBER FIVE, PUBLIC COMMENTS REGARDING ANY ITEMS NOT ON THE AGENDA.
DOES ANYBODY WISH TO SPEAK? PUBLIC COMMENTS CLOSED.
[6.1 Bosque Bello Fencing Design]
BOSCO BELLO FENCING DESIGN.CATHERINE VORRASI, PARKS REC DIRECTOR.
FOR THE RECORD, HOW'S EVERYONE DOING TONIGHT? GOOD. HOW ARE YOU? I'M DOING GREAT, THANK YOU.
SO, KATIE, IF YOU WILL, COULD YOU BRING UP THE DRAWING FOR THE CEMETERY FENCE? IS THIS IT? YEAH.
THIS WAS NOT DONE BY OUR CONTRACTOR.
SORRY. I'M SURE HIS WOULD BE A LOT BETTER.
SO I JUST WANTED TO EXPLAIN TO YOU KIND OF WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT OUT AT THE CEMETERY, AS YOU KNOW.
AND THE BID WAS AWARDED TO MAE CONTRACTING FOR VARIOUS FENCING PROJECTS THROUGHOUT THE CITY.
ONE OF THEM IS THE CEMETERY, WANTED TO GO THROUGH WHAT WE'RE THINKING.
AND THEN ALSO I'LL TELL YOU WHAT THE PROCESS IS OR HOW WE'RE GOING TO GO ABOUT FINDING A DECISION.
I HOSTED A ZOOM MEETING WITH THE FRIENDS OF BOSQUE BELLO.
I ALSO EMAILED EVERYONE ON THE LIST OF THE FRIENDS LIST THAT WAS THAT WAS PROVIDED TO ME.
AND I'VE BEEN GETTING A LOT OF RESPONSES.
AFTER TONIGHT, THE NEXT MEETING IS WEDNESDAY, JULY 19TH.
I'M GOING TO MEET WITH THE RESTORATION FOUNDATION, DO THE SAME EXACT THING.
ASK THEM WHAT THEIR THOUGHTS ARE ON ALL OF THIS.
AND THEN I'M GOING TO GO TO THE CITY COMMISSION ON AUGUST 1ST, DO A SIMILAR PRESENTATION, MIGHT BE A LITTLE BIT MODIFIED AT THAT POINT BECAUSE AT THAT POINT IT WILL BE FOR FINAL APPROVAL.
AND THROUGHOUT THIS WHOLE PROCESS, WE MIGHT CHANGE THINGS.
WE MIGHT CHANGE DIFFERENT ASPECTS OF THE WHOLE PROJECT.
THEY'RE CHAIN-LINK. IT'S KIND OF A IT'S A DIFFERENT ANIMAL, IF YOU WILL.
SO WITH IT BEING THE CEMETERY, WE'RE GOING TO WE'RE TAKING A LITTLE BIT EXTRA TIME AND GOING THROUGH ALL THE DIFFERENT USERS OR THE INTEREST GROUPS THAT ARE INTERESTED IN THE CEMETERY AND THE PROPERTY ITSELF.
SO I JUST WANT TO START HERE WHERE YOU SEE THE LINE ALONG ALONG 14TH STREET AND WRAPPING AROUND TO MAGNOLIA, THE INTERSECTION OF MAGNOLIA AND PINE.
THERE WILL BE A DECORATIVE 12 FOOT GATE THERE.
AND I'M GOING TO SHOW YOU THE PICTURES OF WHAT THAT'S GOING TO LOOK LIKE.
SO DECORATIVE 12 FOOT GATE AT MAGNOLIA AND PINE AND THEN ANOTHER DECORATIVE 24 FOOT GATE AT THE MAIN ENTRANCE, WHICH IS RIGHT OFF OF 14TH RIGHT HERE.
THE REASON WHY THAT'S A 24 FOOT GATE IS JUST BECAUSE OF THE ANGLE.
AND IF IT'S 12FT, IT'S JUST GOING TO BE TOO TIGHT.
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THERE ARE OTHER GATE OPTIONS HERE, ONE AT PINE, ONE AT OAK AND ONE AT CEDAR.AND THEN ALSO THE THIS IS KIND OF THE BLIND TURN AS YOU VISIT THE CEMETERY, THAT SPOT, MOST PEOPLE GO IN AND OUT OF THAT OPTIONAL STANDARD GATE . WHEN MEETING WITH THE FRIENDS YESTERDAY AND GETTING FEEDBACK FROM THOSE THAT WERE THERE VIA EMAIL, THE GATE IDEA, THERE'S A LOT OF GATES, BUT CLOSING THE GATES OFF WASN'T ANYTHING THAT ANYONE'S INTERESTED IN.
SO LET'S GO AHEAD AND GO TO THE THE DESIGN CONCEPT FILE.
IS THAT WHAT I CALL IT? ASK A QUICK QUESTION ABOUT THAT DRAWING.
YEAH, SURE. SO I'M AND I'M SORRY THAT I'M NOT FAMILIAR WITH IT.
SO IS THERE CHAIN LINK ON THE SIDE, ON THE PERIMETER, ON THE REST OF THE PERIMETER OF THE CEMETERY? SO THIS FENCE ONLY JUST KEEPS PEOPLE OUT OFF OF 14TH STREET.
SO THERE'S THICK VEGETATION DOWN HERE TO THE SOUTH.
AND THEN THERE'S BASICALLY, YOU KNOW, SOME TREES AND BUSHES PLANTED RIGHT ALONG HERE OUTSIDE THE GRAVES TOWARDS 14TH STREET.
BUT THERE IS NO CHAIN LINK FENCE.
SO WHAT'S ON THE BACK SIDE OF THERE? LIKE ALL OF. YEAH, OVER HERE.
IS THAT ALL? SO MARSHLAND AND WOODS.
SO PEOPLE WHO SHOULDN'T BE ACCESSING IT WHEN THEY SHOULD NOT HAVE ACCESS TO THE CEMETERY CANNOT GET THERE ANY OTHER WAY EXCEPT FOR LIKE ON 14TH AND MAGNOLIA ESSENTIALLY. SO.
SO VEHICULAR TRAFFIC AND SUCH WOULD BE THAT WAY.
I THINK IF SOMEONE WANTED TO COME IN AROUND THIS WAY, THEY COULD GET THERE.
AND THERE WAS TALK ABOUT AND THERE STILL IS WE DO HAVE SOME DRAWINGS ABOUT THE IDEA OF CLOSING SOME OF THESE STANDARD GATE LOCATIONS OFF AND HAVING BASICALLY HAVING LESS GATES, CREATING A SERVICE ROAD INSIDE THE FENCE, IF YOU WILL.
STAFF'S NOT RECOMMENDING THAT WENT OUT THERE AND DROVE IT.
AND WHERE THE FENCE IS GOING TO GO, THERE'S NOT ENOUGH ROOM AND IT'D BE VERY, VERY TIGHT.
WE CAN CERTAINLY SHOW THOSE TO YOU IF YOU'RE INTERESTED IN SEEING THEM.
CAN YOU GO TO THE DESIGN CONCEPT? LET ME SHOW YOU THAT.
THIS IS THE THIS IS WHAT WE WERE QUOTED, A SIX FOOT ALUMINUM STYLE PICKET FENCE WITH PRESS POINT TIPS WITH TWO HORIZONTAL BARS, IF YOU WILL, ON THE TOP AND ONE ON THE BOTTOM.
SO FOUND THESE ONLINE AND SOME FROM THE CONTRACTOR AS WELL.
THIS IS PRETTY A PRETTY COMMON STYLE FENCE, ALUMINUM STYLE FENCE.
YOU CAN GO AHEAD AND SCROLL PLEASE.
THERE IS THE THE DECORATIVE ARCH IT'S CALLED THEY CALL IT THE BELL ARCH.
SO ON THE DECORATIVE GATE OFF OF MAGNOLIA, WE'LL HAVE TWO SIX FOOT GATES LIKE THAT.
THE MAIN ENTRANCE WILL BE TWO 12 FOOT BELL ARCH GATES THAT WILL BE OPENED.
IF YOU WANT TO SCROLL UP. KATIE, I'M SORRY.
DOWN. YEAH. THIS IS THE ONLY ONE THAT WE COULD FIND OF A STANDARD GATE.
BASICALLY, THE STANDARD GATES ARE GOING TO LOOK JUST LIKE THE FENCE.
THEY'RE JUST GOING TO BE ABLE TO BE OPENED WITH A HINGE HINGES AND AGAIN, TWO SIX FOOT SECTIONS AND THEY'LL JUST OPEN AND THEN IF YOU SCROLL, CONTINUE TO SCROLL, THIS IS FOR FUTURE.
THIS HAS COME UP IN DISCUSSIONS.
THIS MAY BE ATTACHED IN THE FUTURE TO A FENCE OR NEAR THE NEAR FENCE AT THE MAIN ENTRANCE.
BUT I AM GETTING PRICES ON A CUSTOM FENCE OR I'M SORRY, A CUSTOM SIGN SIMILAR TO THESE.
AND WE'LL ADDRESS THAT WHEN THE TIME COMES.
I AM INCLUDING IT BECAUSE IT HAS BEEN COMING UP IN A LOT OF DISCUSSIONS.
SO THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WE MAY LOOK AT IN THE FUTURE.
THAT'S NOT PART OF THE FENCING PROJECT.
IT IS NOT SOMETHING THAT WE'VE FORGOTTEN ABOUT, BUT WE WILL BE LOOKING INTO THAT AS IS REQUESTED.
YES. SO ON THE GATES, ARE THEY MECHANICAL, LIKE ON SOME SORT OF OPENER?
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THEY JUST MANUALLY OPEN.JUST LIKE THE GATES AT SEASIDE.
YEAH, WELL, THE GATE AT SEASIDE, THESE WOULD BE OPENED AND CLOSED.
THE MAIN PURPOSE OF THE WHOLE FENCE IDEA AND CONCEPT IS SECURITY.
AND THAT'S WHY ORIGINALLY IT WAS AS A SIX FOOT FENCE.
THAT'S WHY WE'RE RECOMMENDING SIX FEET.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ABOUT THE FENCING, ABOUT THE GATES? LOCATION OF THE GATES.
YOU WANT TO SEE THE MAP? WHEN YOU SAY SECURITY, ARE YOU.
I MEAN, AS A DETERRENT, RIGHT? IT'S NOT I MEAN, IT'S NOT SECURE.
SECURE. THAT'S A DIFFERENT LEVEL OF.
RIGHT. IT'S NOT PREVENTING PEOPLE.
I MEAN, IF YOU WANT TO GO THROUGH THE THICK OF WOODS TO GET TO THE CEMETERY, YOU WILL.
THIS IS GOING TO PREVENT VEHICULAR TRAFFIC.
CAN YOU GO BACK TO THE MAP FOR ME? THERE IS ANOTHER LOCATION THAT WE'VE IDENTIFIED SO WE CAN FIGURE OUT WHERE IT IS.
OVER HERE. THERE'S AN AREA IF YOU GO DOWN, IF YOU CONTINUE ON, I THINK NOT PINE.
IT GOES THAT WAY TOWARDS OLD TOWN.
YEAH. YEAH. I DON'T KNOW THE NAME OF THE STREET.
I'M SORRY. THERE'S A THERE IS A STREET THAT GOES DOWN TOWARDS OLD TOWN.
THAT'S NOT PART OF THE FENCING PROJECT.
WE ACTUALLY HAVE SUPPLIES AND MANPOWER TO DO THAT LITTLE, LITTLE SECTION.
WE ARE GOING TO CLOSE THAT OFF AND MAKE IT MORE SECURE.
BUT BESIDES, ONCE THIS FENCE, IF THIS FENCE GETS INSTALLED AND WE DO OUR PART ON THAT LITTLE PATH, IF YOU CAN, YOU KNOW, GET THROUGH THE THICK OF WOODS TO GET TO THE CEMETERY.
BUT IS IT THAT THE VEHICULAR TRAFFIC IS DAMAGING THE ROADS OR I MEAN, WHAT WHAT ARE WE SECURING IT FROM? RIGHT. SO RIGHT NOW AT NIGHT, PEOPLE CAN DRIVE ALL THROUGH THE CEMETERY AND THINGS ARE GETTING DAMAGED, ESPECIALLY IN THE ANCIENT SECTION.
AND IT'S BECOMING A MASSIVE PROBLEM.
THIS WOULD PREVENT PEOPLE FROM DRIVING BACK THERE WHEN IT IS DARK.
AND SO IN THE DARK, IT'S IT'S HARDER.
SO THIS IS MAINLY FOR THAT PURPOSE.
OF COURSE, THERE'S THINGS THAT HAPPEN IN THE CEMETERY THAT EVERYONE TALKS ABOUT.
YOU KNOW, IT'S JUST A QUIET PLACE.
THANK YOU. ONE MORE DOCUMENT I WANT TO SHOW YOU AND THEN WE CAN ANSWER MORE QUESTIONS.
CAN YOU BRING UP THE QUOTE, PLEASE? SO THIS IS THE FENCING PROPOSAL FOR THE CEMETERY.
IT'S 78, ABOUT $78,000 FOR THE FENCE, INCLUDING ALL OF THE OPTIONAL GATES.
SO THERE'S THE THREE, THE FOUR STANDARD GATES AND THE TWO DECORATIVE GATES.
WE DON'T WANT TO PUT UP A FENCE AND THEN EVERYONE SAY WE DON'T LIKE THAT FENCE.
WE WANT EVERYONE TO AT LEAST SEE WHERE WE'RE HEADING AND PROVIDE FEEDBACK.
SO I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS OR IF THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS FROM THE PUBLIC.
DID THEY GIVE YOU ANY KIND OF ESTIMATED LIFE OF THE FENCE? HOW LONG IT WILL LAST, BY ANY CHANCE? YOU KNOW, I DIDN'T HAVE THAT CONVERSATION WITH THE CONTRACTOR, SO I WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO ANSWER THAT.
DID YOU HAVE A CONVERSATION WITH ALUMINUM? SO. RIGHT.
YEAH, WE CAN GET THAT INFORMATION.
I DON'T HAVE IT OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD.
I DON'T WANT TO GUESS. I MEAN, I HAVE A SIMILAR FENCE AT MY HOUSE, AND IT'S PRETTY STURDY.
BUT I WILL SAY IT, WHEN THINGS BUMP INTO IT, THEY DO BEND.
SO IT'S NOT LIKE STEEL LIKE YOU..
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RIGHT. I THINK IN OTHER OLDER CEMETERIES THEY PROBABLY USE LIKE WROUGHT IRON OR SOMETHING THAT'S LIKE CERTAINLY MORE SUBSTANTIAL.BUT I THINK IT'S PRETTY RESILIENT.
I THINK IT'S, IF I'M REMEMBERING CORRECTLY, SIMILAR LOOKING TO THE CEMETERY THAT'S ON EIGHTH AND SOUTH ALACHUA BY THE CHURCH.
SO I MEAN IT SEEMS LIKE KIND OF A SIMILAR STYLE.
IS THIS SOMETHING THAT WAS ALREADY BUDGETED IN THE OUT OF, IS THERE A SEPARATE LINE ITEM IN THE BUDGET FOR BOSQUE BELLO OR HOW DOES THAT WORK? RIGHT. SO WHAT WE DID WITH THIS IS WE HAVE MONEY IN THE PARKS, PARKS AND RECREATION GENERAL IMPROVEMENTS ACCOUNT.
AND SO LOOKING AROUND, STAFF IS RECOMMENDING FENCING IMPROVEMENTS IN MULTIPLE LOCATIONS.
SO WE HAVE FENCING NEEDS ALL THROUGHOUT THE CITY.
SO WE DID THAT AND WE DID IT FOR JUST GENERAL COSTS FOR FENCING.
GOSH, THIS THE MULTIPURPOSE COURT.
AND SO WE PUT ALL THE PROJECTS TOGETHER.
AND BECAUSE IT'S NEW, THE FENCING IS NEW, THERE'S NOT EXISTING FENCING THERE.
WOULD IT QUALIFY FOR IMPACT FEES? I, I BELIEVE IT WOULD.
WE HAVE THE FUNDS TO COVER THIS, THOUGH.
THERE ARE A LOT OF ALLOCATIONS FOR THOSE IMPACT FEES OR NOT.
THERE'S A LOT OF THOUGHTS ON THE IMPACT FEES.
SO I THINK WE HAVE A LOT OF THINGS ALSO IN OUR GENERAL FUND THAT NEED TO BE REPAIRED AND ..
YES, WE DO SEE THIS AS A HIGH PRIORITY.
THERE ARE IMPACT FEES THAT WE HAVE AVAILABLE.
THERE ARE OTHER THINGS THAT THE CEMETERY NEEDS AS WELL.
THANK YOU. YEAH. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR ME? SO WE'RE JUST LOOKING FOR CONSENSUS THAT YOU WANT YOU THINK IT'S A GOOD IDEA TO CONTINUE DOWN THIS PATH? WE'RE LOOKING AT A SIX FOOT ALUMINUM STYLE PICKET FENCE.
SO DO WE HAVE YOUR SUPPORT? YOU NEED A MOTION? YEAH, I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO SUPPORT THE FENCING PROJECT AT BOSQUE BELLO.
THAT'S OKAY WITH YOU? YEAH, SURE.
ERIC MARTEL, 3820 SOUTH FLETCHER.
BOSQUE BELLO IS SOMETHING THAT I'VE DONE QUITE A BIT OF WORK ON IN THE PAST.
I WAS A MEMBER OF THE PARKS AND REC COMMITTEE AND LOOKED AT THE FENCING ISSUE.
AND IF I COULD GIVE YOU A LITTLE BIT OF A HANDOUT HERE, WHAT I'M GOING TO SHOW YOU IS AN ALTERNATIVE WAY OF DOING THIS. LET'S SAY SAVE A BIT OF MONEY.
I'M SORRY. YOU CAN HAVE THIS SO THAT IT CAN BE PROJECTED.
OKAY, SO THE FIRST PAGE IS THE FENCE, WHICH IS NO DIFFERENT REALLY FROM WHAT MS. VORASSI HAS TALKED ABOUT.
BUT THERE'S A COUPLE OF PLACES WHERE I WANT TO DRAW YOUR ATTENTION TO.
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THIS UP HERE WHERE THE FENCE ENDS.THERE'S A BIT OF AN ISSUE BECAUSE SOMERUELUS STREET COMES THROUGH THERE AND INTERSECTS WITH THE THE MAIN STREET INTO THE CEMETERY.
AND SO IT'S A LITTLE UNCLEAR IN MY MIND HOW WHERE THAT GATE IS GOING TO BE.
SO IT WILL INTERSECT WITH THAT STREET.
I KNOW EXACTLY WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT.
OKAY. SO THE STREET WILL BE OUTSIDE OF IT? YES, SIR. SO THE FENCE WILL THEN BE NO TO THE FENCE WILL BE INSIDE OF IT.
SO WHERE DOES THE FENCE END THEN? INTO THE NATURAL VEGETATION.
RIGHT. YEAH, RIGHT WHERE YOUR THING IS.
YOU MENTIONED THAT SOMETHING WAS GOING TO BE CLOSED OFF.
ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT THAT STUB OF SOMEWHERE ELSE? THAT SAME YEAR, I CAN COME UP WITH THE ANSWER.
OKAY. SO YEAH, SO SOMERUELUS STREET, WHICH IS A DIRT STREET NOW THAT GOES OVER TO THE MAIN SOMERUELUS STREET.
IS THAT AN OFFICIAL STREET? CAN YOU BRING THAT DOWN FOR ME? YEAH. RIGHT.
CAN YOU SCROLL OR BRING THE WHOLE THING? THE MAP? YEAH.
BRING THE WHOLE THING. I CAN'T.
RIGHT HERE IS A OUR SHED, IF YOU WILL.
AND THAT DIRT ROAD IS IS HERE.
THERE'S NOTHING THAT WE'RE IMPACTING HERE.
BUT THEORETICALLY, IF YOU JUST WENT INTO THE WOODS, YOU COULD GO AROUND, RIGHT? WELL, THAT'D BE THE SAME OVER HERE.
YES. WELL, NO, OVER HERE THERE IS A CHAIN LINK FENCE THAT COMES OUT TO 14TH STREET.
RIGHT. AND THAT'S WHY I WAS WONDERING IF SOMERUELUS STREET IS ACTUALLY AN OFFICIAL STREET, BECAUSE IT'S IT LOOKS LIKE PEOPLE HAVE JUST, YOU KNOW, IF YOU BLOCKED IT OFF, THEY COULD STILL GO THE OTHER WAY.
RIGHT? WE'RE NOT IMPACTING THAT.
WE'RE STAYING ON THE CEMETERY SIDE.
OKAY. I GUESS WHAT I'M SUGGESTING FOR SECURITY PURPOSES, TO REALLY SECURE THIS, YOU MIGHT WANT TO ASK THE CITY TO CLOSE OFF THAT SECTION OF SOMERUELUS. IT'S NOT LIKE THEY CAN'T ACCESS IT.
IT'S A SHORTCUT THAT THEY CAN STILL GO THROUGH OLD TOWN TO GET BACK ON THE 14TH.
AND I'M WONDERING IF IT ACTUALLY IF THAT'S GOT CREATED UNOFFICIALLY SO PEOPLE JUST COME OUT OF THE DRIVEWAY, THESE NEW HOUSES AND BE GOING THAT WAY AND BECAUSE YOUR SHED IS RIGHT NEXT TO IT.
OKAY. SO LET'S GO TO THE SECOND PAGE OF WHAT I GAVE YOU.
OKAY, SO THE THIS SHOWS WHAT'S INSIDE THE FENCE.
JUST BECAUSE THE DRAWING IS TOO COMPLICATED TO PUT IT ON THERE.
THAT'S WHY THE FIRST PAGE IS HAS THE FENCE.
SO THE RED LINE IS A ESSENTIALLY A CONTINUATION OF THE KIND OF DIRT GRASS STREETS THAT ARE THE GREEN LINES.
OKAY. SO THE RED LINES BECOME CONNECTORS FOR THE GREEN LINES, BUT THE GREEN STREETS AND I'VE REVISED THIS A LITTLE BIT FROM WHAT I SENT YOU.
WHAT I SENT YOU HAS NO GATES EXCEPT FOR THE PRIMARY AND SECONDARY AND THE ONE AT THE SOUTH END.
I PUT ANOTHER GATE BACK IN THE MIDDLE OF THIS.
PART OF THE PROBLEM IS THAT THERE ARE TWO STREETS THAT AREN'T SHOWN ON HERE.
THERE'S ONE RIGHT HERE WHICH IS CALLED WHAT IS IT CALLED? JJ COOPER.
JJ COOPER HERE AND ABOVE PINE IS ANOTHER ONE CALLED HOLLY.
AND SO WOULD THOSE GET GATES TOO ACCORDING TO THIS? NO. SO WITH THOSE TWO, A CAR OR A TRUCK OR HEARSE OR WHATEVER WOULD GO DOWN THAT AND COME TO THE FENCE AND THEY HAVE NO WAY TO TURN AROUND.
SO ON THE HANDOUT HERE, ALL OF THE STREETS ARE SHOWN.
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LINE, TO THE NEXT STREET OR THE NEXT STREET.AND THEN YOU CAN COME BACK OR YOU CAN GO OUT THE GATE.
NOW, THIS IS DONE THIS WAY TO AVOID SHARP ANGLED TURNS.
THIS IS REALLY HARD TO EXPLAIN.
OKAY, SO IF YOU COME DOWN, THIS IS HOLLY.
YOU COME DOWN THIS WAY, AND INSTEAD OF TRYING TO TURN SHARP THERE BECAUSE IT'S A LITTLE BIT DIFFICULT, YOU JUST KEEP ON AND GO OUT THIS GATE. OKAY? YOU GO OUT THAT GATE, YOU DON'T NEED A ROADWAY HERE.
YOU CAN COME DOWN THIS WAY AND GO THIS WAY AND GO OUT THIS GATE AND THIS WAY YOU GO OUT THIS GATE AND THERE I'VE WALKED THIS INNUMERABLE TIMES.
THERE IS ROOM TO DO ALL OF THIS.
IT'S THERE'S PLENTY OF ROOM WITH THE FENCE AND PUT THE ROADWAY BETWEEN.
THE BOTTOM LINE IS THAT THAT ELIMINATES SOME OF THE GATES.
YOU ONLY HAVE ONE HERE INSTEAD OF THE THREE.
OR I GUESS I DON'T QUITE UNDERSTAND HOW BECAUSE THE DRAWING DOESN'T SHOW THE TWO MISSING STREETS.
CATHERINE IS THERE A REASON THAT THEY'RE NOT ON YOUR DRAWING THE TWO STREETS HE'S REFERRING TO? SO THOSE.
WELL, BECAUSE WE'RE NOT GOING TO PUT FIVE STANDARD GATES IN ONE OPTION.
THAT'S SO YEAH. SO WE'RE PICKING THE ONES.
IF YOU GO OUT THERE, THESE ARE THE ONES THAT ARE HEAVILY RIDDEN.
SO WE'LL LEAVE THE SIGNS UP BECAUSE THEY'RE PART OF THE CEMETERY.
YEAH, WELL, I DON'T I GUESS I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY WE HAVE SO MANY GATES, EVEN OPTIONAL HERE.
I MEAN, I WOULD IN MY EXPERIENCE AT CEMETERIES, IT'S LIKE THERE'S USUALLY LIKE A MAIN GATE AND THEN YOU TRAVERSE THE ROADS TO GET THERE.
SO I WOULD THINK HAVING ONE ON THE ON 14TH STREET, LIKE A WIDER GATE LIKE YOU SUGGESTED, THE DOUBLE GATE AND THEN HAVING AN ACCESS GATE ON THE BACK SIDE TOO, IF YOU WERE GOING TO THOSE, I GUESS THAT'S NORTH, THE NORTHERN ROADS, YOU KNOW, TO GO AROUND THE CORNER, TO GO ON THAT SIDE.
I MEAN, WHY DO WE WANT SO MANY GATES? RIGHT. SO IT'S AN ACCESS SITUATION.
AND YES, IT IS SET UP VERY STRANGELY, NOT UNIQUELY, I SHOULD SAY.
WOULD YOU HAVE PEOPLE THAT CAN'T GET TO THEIR LOVED ONES? AND SO IF THEY'RE BURIED BETWEEN OAK AND CEDAR, YOU KNOW.
AND THEY HAVE FOR YEARS BEEN VISITING WHOMEVER LOVED ONE.
BUT DIDN'T YOU JUST GO TO THAT MAIN ROAD THERE LIKE, IF YOU CAME IN BOSQUE BELLO AND GOT TO THE I GUESS IS THAT MAGNOLIA STREET? IS THAT WHAT THAT IS? THEN WHY DON'T YOU JUST GO ON MAGNOLIA AND THEN TURN ONTO..
IS IT'S ISSUE THAT THEY CAN'T THEN TURN AROUND AND YOU DON'T WANT THEM LIKE TRYING TO REVERSE.
RIGHT. THAT WAS WHY I WAS TALKING ABOUT THE SERVICE ROAD AND CONNECTING THEM.
THERE'S ONE AREA WHERE THERE'S A MONUMENT.
AND SO THAT'S WHAT STAFF'S RECOMMENDING.
WE'RE NOT RECOMMENDING IT, BUT WE CAN CERTAINLY DO WHATEVER THE COMMUNITY WOULD LIKE.
WE JUST WANT TO HELP SECURE IT.
CATHERINE, WHERE IS THE FENCE ACTUALLY GOING TO GO RELATIVE TO THE RAILWAY LINE AND THE TELEPHONE POLES? WE DON'T HAVE THE SURVEY YET.
WE'RE JUST TRYING TO GET APPROVAL, OKAY? BECAUSE THE WAY IT IS NOW, THERE ARE POLES WHICH ARE PROBABLY ON THE RIGHT OF WAY LINE, AND THEN THERE'S A CABLE THAT COMES OUT AND THEN GOES DOWN.
OKAY. SO THERE'S A SPACE BETWEEN THAT CABLE INTERSECTS THE GROUND AND THE POLE.
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RIGHT. WHICH I DROVE IT ALSO, WHICH I'M SURE I'M NOT SUPPOSED TO DO, BUT I HAD NO TROUBLE.I MEAN, THERE'S LOTS OF ROOM THERE.
I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY IT'S TIGHT.
THERE IS ONE PLACE, AS YOU MENTIONED, AND AND ON MY DRAWING, THERE IS NO.
SORRY. ON THE DRAWING THAT GRAVESITE, WHICH KIND OF IMPEDES INTO THAT.
WE'RE NOT RECOMMENDING THE SERVICE ROAD CONCEPT FOR MULTIPLE REASONS.
WE WILL KNOW MORE ONCE THE SURVEYS DONE.
OKAY. SO WHAT I'M PROPOSING ELIMINATES AT LEAST TWO GATES.
I'M STILL NOT QUITE SURE HOW YOU DEAL WITH HOLLY AND THE OTHER STREET THAT JUST DEAD ENDS.
SHE'S CATHERINE SAID THAT THAT WOULD BE CLOSED OFF.
BUT IF YOU GO TO THIS PLAN, YOU DON'T HAVE TO CLOSE IT OFF.
YOU CAN STILL USE THOSE STREETS JUST AS THEY'RE USED NOW.
SO BY ELIMINATING THOSE EXTRA GATES AND THEN THERE'S THE THIRD QUESTION HERE, WHICH IS THE HEIGHT OF THE FENCE. THEY'RE CALLING FOR A SIX FOOT HIGH FENCE.
SO THAT FENCE IS UP HERE SOMEWHERE.
I MEAN, THAT'S A REALLY HIGH FENCE.
AND THE FENCE IS REALLY ONLY A DETERRENT.
WE'RE NOT TRYING TO PROTECT SOMETHING THAT IS UNIMAGINABLY VALUABLE.
AND I MEAN, THERE'S ALL KINDS OF SENTIMENTAL THINGS ASSOCIATED WITH THAT.
SO WHY DO YOU NEED A SIX FOOT HIGH FENCE WHEN A FIVE FOOT HIGH FENCE WOULD DO, WHICH WOULD COME UP TO ABOUT HERE, WHICH IS STILL A PRETTY HIGH FENCE AND THAT'S 20% LESS FENCE.
SO THAT'S GOING TO SAVE YOU IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD OF 10 OR $15,000.
SO. I THINK THAT'S ALL I HAVE.
DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE GENTLEMAN? SO IT SOUNDS LIKE BEFORE ANY FINAL DECISIONS ARE MADE ON GATES, WE HAVE TO GET THE SURVEY.
DID WE JUST VOTE? WE JUST VOTED.
WE DID. BUT WE CAN ALSO RECALL THAT.
BUT THEY. BUT SHE'S PRESENTING IT TO OTHER PEOPLE, TOO.
DID YOU HAVE ANYTHING ELSE? THAT'S IT.
THANK YOU. SO WHAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR IS A GREEN LIGHT TO MOVE FORWARD, TO PUT IN A FENCE.
THAT'S WHAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR.
THE GATES ARE OPEN FOR DISCUSSION.
WHETHER WE WANT TO DO A SERVICE ROAD OR NOT.
STAFF IS NOT RECOMMENDING THE SERVICE ROAD CONCEPT.
IF THAT'S SOMETHING THAT THIS BOARD WISHES FOR US TO LOOK INTO, WE'D HAVE TO PAY A COUPLE THOUSAND DOLLARS FOR A SURVEY AND WE CAN CERTAINLY LOOK TOWARDS DOING THAT. THAT'S NOT WHAT WE'RE RECOMMENDING TODAY.
SO THERE'S NO WE HAVEN'T EVEN ORDERED A SURVEY YET.
IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE SAYING? I THINK WE'RE ALREADY DOING.
I THOUGHT YOU WERE ORDERING A SURVEY.
ONE HAD BEEN ORDERED. WE'RE NOT.
YEAH, WE'RE NOT GOING TO ORDER A SURVEY IF THE IF THE COMMUNITY DOESN'T WANT THE FENCE.
OH, I SEE. OKAY. BUT SINCE THIS IS KIND OF THE FIRST.
SURE. WE CAN'T DO THAT BEFORE WE DO, YOU KNOW.
BASED ON THAT TIMELINE, YOU'RE TAKING IT TO THEM FOR FINAL APPROVAL, IS THAT WHAT YOU SAID? SO THEY'VE ALREADY SEEN THE FENCING.
THEY WE ALSO WENT BACK TO THEM AT THE LAST COMMISSION MEETING FOR APPROVAL FOR THE BASEBALL FIELDS, THE FOOTBALL FIELD, AND FOR THIS, BECAUSE THESE ARE THESE ARE THE THREE OF ALL THE FENCING PROJECTS THAT ARE OVER 20,000.
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ALSO HAVE THEIR YOU KNOW, THEY WANT TO WEIGH IN ON THE TYPE OF FENCING BECAUSE THIS IS GOING TO THEY WANT TO MAKE SURE EVERYONE LIKES THE FENCE AND THE WHOLE CONCEPT. SO THEY WANTED TO HAVE INPUT INTO THIS.SO NOW IT'S GOING TO GO TO THEM FOR FINAL APPROVAL.
WELL, CAN WE AMEND OUR APPROVAL REQUESTING THAT THE COMMISSIONERS LOOK AT THE LOWERING THE FENCE HEIGHT TO SAVE MONEY ON THE FENCING? LET ME..
GREAT QUESTION. I JUST WANT TO ASK ONE OTHER QUESTION BEFORE I BROUGHT, YOU KNOW, YESTERDAY.
YESTERDAY YOU HAD A DISCUSSION WITH THE PEOPLE THAT ARE SUPPORTING THIS NEW STRUCTURE OF FENCING.
FRIENDS OF BOSQUE BELLO AND THE BOSQUE BELLO INTEREST GROUP.
OKAY. WAS THERE ANY DISCUSSION BROUGHT UP ABOUT THE THE HEIGHT OF THE FENCING? YES, WE DISCUSSED THE HEIGHT AND THERE WAS PEOPLE THAT HAVE EMAILED ME ABOUT THE HEIGHT.
THEY LIKE THE SIX FOOT HEIGHT.
THEY LIKE THE IDEA OF THE GATES, BUT THEY'RE JUST ONE OF THE GROUPS.
SO WE'RE GOING TO EVERY GROUP.
SO WHERE THIS IS GOING WITH ME IS THERE WAS A DISCUSSION THERE HAD PEOPLE ACTUALLY WEIGHING IN ON THE FENCING. I THINK ESTHETICALLY, IF YOU LOOK AT IT FROM THE STRUCTURE THAT'S BEING PUT UP, IT LOOKS LIKE THE STRUCTURE IS HUMONGOUS FROM THE OUTSIDE.
AND THAT SIX FOOT FENCE WOULD PUT IT AT A LEVEL OF WHAT I CONSIDER EQUAL TO THE FENCING THAT WE'RE PUTTING INTO THE GATES, THE HEIGHT AND EVERYTHING.
SO IT WOULD BALANCE OFF THE FENCING.
THAT'S WHERE I'M GOING WITH THIS.
NOW IF YOU GUYS HAVE A DIFFERENT THING.
BUT I THINK THE BALANCE PART OF THE STRUCTURE IS HAS TO BE LOOKED AT.
ARE WE PUTTING A MIDGET TO THIS GIGANTIC TYPE THING OR ARE WE TRYING TO BALANCE IT OFF SO IT SERVES A PURPOSE BOTH FOR SECURITY REASONS.
YOU KNOW, I'M SIX FOOT TWO, OKAY.
THAT FENCE IS AS HIGH AS I AM.
BUT DOES IT LOOK ESTHETICALLY NICE WITH A SIX FOOT FENCE OR WILL IT LOOK ESTHETICALLY NICE WITH A FOUR FOOT FENCE? I BELIEVE BECAUSE OF THE WAY THE STRUCTURE IS BEING BUILT, A SIX FOOT FENCE WOULD SERVE THE PURPOSE ESTHETICALLY.
I'D RESPECTFULLY DISAGREE WITH THE I THINK THE HIGHER FENCE HEIGHT, EVEN THOUGH IT'S TRANSPARENT AND RELATIVELY LIGHT WITH THE ALUMINUM, JUST THE WAY THE THE SLATS ARE THAT YOU CAN SEE THROUGH THERE.
BUT I TOTALLY AGREE THAT A HIGHER FENCE DEFINITELY SEEMS MORE LIKE A A BARRIER THAN AND AGAIN, IF THIS WAS ENCASING THE ENTIRE PLACE, THERE WAS NO WAY TO GET IN THERE TO DO ANYTHING.
IT IS REALLY JUST A DETERRENT.
AND I THINK THAT TO HAVE IT BE MORE WELCOMING AS, AGAIN, THIS IS A PLACE WHERE PEOPLE WANT TO GO.
THEY DON'T WANT TO FEEL THAT IT IS FORTIFIED I WOULD SAY.
I THINK THAT THEY WANT TO FEEL LIKE IT'S SECURED BUT NOT FORTIFIED.
AND I DEFINITELY THINK HE SUGGESTS THAT.
THANK YOU. UM, THAT A FIVE FOOT FENCE.
A FOUR FOOT FENCE MIGHT BE PRETTY SMALL.
I MEAN, THAT PONY WALL OVER THERE IS PROBABLY LIKE THREE FEET.
I THINK SIX FEET IS PRETTY HIGH.
THAT'S REALLY LIKE A PRIVACY, YOU KNOW, TO KEEP PEOPLE OUT.
AND IF OUR MAIN GOAL IS TO KEEP CARS OUT, I THINK JUST HAVING THE FENCE THERE DOES THAT.
UM. AND I JUST I'M NOT A FAN OF ALL THOSE GATES.
WE CAN DO IT THAT WAY. NOT A PROBLEM.
I WOULD MAKE A MOTION TO RECALL THE LAST VOTE AND REOPEN THE DISCUSSION.
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DO I HAVE A SECOND? I'LL SECOND THAT. OKAY.ANY DISCUSSION? CALL FOR A VOTE, PLEASE.
I WOULD MAKE A MOTION TO ACTUALLY, I DON'T.
I NEED TO THINK ABOUT THAT FOR A SECOND.
CAN WE JUST TALK ABOUT. I LIKE THE IDEA OF LOWERING THE HEIGHT.
I AGREE THAT IT SEEMS LIKE WE'RE TRYING TO, YOU KNOW, MAKING THE FENCE SO HIGH IS REALLY LIKE IT SEEMS. IT JUST SEEMS REALLY TALL TO ME.
SIX FEET. AND WITH EVERYTHING YOU SAID THAT I AGREED WITH.
UM, I'M NOT PART OF THE STAFF THAT'S OUT THERE DRIVING AROUND.
IF THEY THINK THAT THE SERVICE ROAD IS REALLY TIGHT.
YOU THINK YOU'VE HEARSES OUT THERE? THEY'RE VERY CAR. IF YOU EVER HAVE TO GET ANY KIND OF LARGER VEHICLE OUT THERE, IT'S GOING TO BE TIGHT FOR THEM TO GET AROUND.
AND THAT'S WHAT WE HAVE TO DO SO THAT EVERYBODY CAN ACCESS THEIR LOVED ONES AND YOU CAN MAKE SURE YOU'RE GETTING NECESSARY LANDSCAPE EQUIPMENT AND ALL OF THAT IN THERE, THEN I'M NOT OPPOSED TO THAT PART OF IT.
I UNDERSTAND THAT WE'RE NOT LIKE BUILDING A NEW CEMETERY, THAT WE CAN SAY, HEY, THIS IS THE PERFECT LAYOUT IF YOU GUYS HAVE DRIVEN IT AND THE STAFF WHO'S ACTUALLY WORKING OUT THERE THINKS THAT'S WHAT WORKS.
AND I'M NOT THE ONE OUT THERE DRIVING THIS VEHICLES.
AND IT WAS TIGHT WHEN WE WENT OUT THERE ON OUR FIELD TRIP THAT DAY.
YOU COULD SEE HOW THINGS HAD BEEN HIT.
YEAH. CATHERINE, BACK TO THE TO MR. BARTELL'S DISCUSSION OF THE TOP SECTION UP THERE WHERE THE SHED IS, THAT IS GOING TO BE BLOCKED OFF SO GOLF CARTS CANNOT GET THROUGH THAT AREA ? THE TRAIL THAT WE FOUND.
YEAH. SO THAT WOULD BE AN ISSUE AT ALL.
YEAH, THAT'S NOT PART OF THIS.
WE'RE DOING THAT IN HOUSE BECAUSE WE FOUND THAT.
YEAH. THE ONLY THING I HAVE TO SAY IS EVER SINCE I'VE BEEN ON THIS BOARD, MONEY HAS BEEN AN ISSUE.
AND I DON'T, AND ALL OF A SUDDEN THERE COULD BE $10,000 IN SAVINGS OR MORE.
AND I'M JUST SURPRISED THAT THAT'S NOT CONSIDERED BEFORE IT COMES TO US.
I MEAN, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE IT'S MONEY'S MONEY'S MONEY, YOU KNOW, AND WE DON'T HAVE IT.
SO FIVE FOOT, SIX FOOT, WHO CARES AS LONG AS IT'S A REASONABLE PRICE.
I THINK THEY SHOULD BE ADVISED OF THAT.
WOULD THAT BE ANOTHER SAVINGS? DID YOU GUYS EXPLORE ANY DIFFERENT HEIGHTS OR WAS THAT JUST WHAT THEY RECOMMENDED? OR. I KNOW SOMETIMES YOU THINK, OH, WELL, WE'RE TAKING IT DOWN BY FOOT, SO THAT SHOULD BE STICK TO THE COST, BUT THAT'S NOT ACTUALLY HOW IT COMES OUT TO.
SO I DIDN'T KNOW IF THAT WAS DISCUSSED.
AND SO THE POINT OF THE QUOTE, THE WAY IT IS, IS IT'S SIX FEET.
WE'RE NOT GOING TO PUT ANY MORE IN.
SO IF WE'RE TRYING TO ALLOCATE FUNDS, WE HAVE FUNDS FOR THIS.
IF ANY CHANGES ARE MADE, IT WILL BE LESS.
YEAH, I MEAN, I APPROVE OF THE CONCEPT.
I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THE COMMISSIONERS UNDERSTAND THERE MAY BE SOME SAVINGS THERE IF THEY REDUCE THE HEIGHT OF THE FENCE AND WE CAN I HAVE NO PROBLEM APPROVING IT AT SIX AS LONG AS THEY WE, THEY UNDERSTAND THAT WE RECOMMEND LOOKING AT LOWERING IT TO SAVE SOME EXTRA MONEY.
I JUST, I DON'T WANT TO APPROVE IT WITH NO OTHER OPTIONS.
YES, THERE WAS DISCUSSION YESTERDAY AND ONE COMMENT WAS MADE.
WELL, I USED TO JUMP FENCES AND I CAN JUMP A FIVE FOOT FENCE, SO LET'S MAKE IT SIX.
IT WAS ALREADY PROPOSED AT SIX.
YOU KNOW, SO IF THIS BOARD WISHES TO SAY WE SUPPORT IT, IF YOU CAN LOOK AT SOMETHING LESS, THEN THAT'S HELPFUL AS WE GO DOWN THIS PATH, BECAUSE I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THIS THE PROJECT GETS DONE HOWEVER THE COMMUNITY WANTS IT TO LOOK.
THIS IS HOW MUCH IT WOULD BE FOR FIVE FEET AND THEN THE DECISION CAN BE THEIRS.
YEAH, THAT'D BE GREAT. AND I AGREE.
I MEAN, ANYWHERE WE CAN GET COST SAVINGS, I THINK THAT WE HAVE A RESPONSIBILITY TO DO THAT.
BUT I ALSO KNOW THAT THE SENSITIVITY AROUND THIS PARTICULAR PROPERTY AND WHAT GOES ON THERE, YOU
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KNOW, THE FACT THAT THIS IS PEOPLE'S FINAL RESTING PLACE, THAT WE I DON'T THINK THIS IS SOMETHING WE WANT TO GET WRONG AT ANY POINT FROM EITHER A FINANCIAL STANDPOINT ESPECIALLY, BUT CERTAINLY FROM A SENSITIVITY OF OF PEOPLE'S FAMILIES BEING THERE.I JUST WANT TO MAKE ONE OTHER COMMENT.
BASICALLY, WE DON'T HAVE A FENCE UP THERE NOW.
WE HAVEN'T HAD A FENCE UP THERE FOR X AMOUNT OF PERIODS.
SCOTT CAN TELL ME WHEN THEY TOOK YOU KNOW, THERE WAS A FENCE UP THERE AND IT WAS TAKEN DOWN.
WE ARE FACED WITH PEOPLE THAT ARE NOT SUPPOSED TO BE THERE, YOU KNOW.
THAT'S WHAT THEY'RE LOOKING FOR, SECURITY FOR THEIR LOVED ONES.
ALSO, WHEN YOU'RE ALSO VISITING.
SO IS IT A DETERRENT? YOU KNOW, I THINK ANYBODY CAN SCALE ANYTHING AT ANY TIME.
BUT TO GIVE THEM THE LEAST OPTION OF SCALING SOMETHING TO ME IS THE BEST OPTION OUT THERE.
WE ONLY HAVE ONE SHOT AT THE APPLE AND WE MIGHT HAVE TO DO IT RIGHT.
WHATEVER YOU GUYS COME UP WITH, LET'S MAKE SURE WE'RE THINKING ABOUT THE FUTURE AND WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO PREVENT HAPPENING, YOU KNOW, AND NOT HAPPEN ANYMORE. WELL, THE SCALING AND I THINK THE DESIGN OF THAT FLAT POINTY, YOU KNOW, LOOKS VERY I DON'T KNOW LIKE THERE SHOULD BE A MOAT AROUND THERE AND SOME KIND OF CASTLE.
LIKE, THEY'RE GOING TO IMPALE PEOPLE WITH THAT.
BUT TO BE HONEST, THOSE ALUMINUM FENCES, YOU CAN JUST KICK THE POST RIGHT IN.
SO EVEN AT A SIX FOOT, SOMEBODY WOULD JUST KIND OF WALK AROUND IF YOU WANT TO.
RIGHT. I MEAN, I'M JUST SAYING, AGAIN, I DEAL WITH PROPERTY MANAGEMENT AND GATES AND MANY TIMES THE GATES AREN'T WORKING AND THEY ARE DETERRENTS TO KEEP PEOPLE OUT, BUT THEY ARE NOT SECURE.
AND THAT'S JUST NOT TRUE BECAUSE WE ONLY HAVE A QUARTER OF THE PROPERTY FENCE.
THERE ARE OTHER BARRIERS THAT ARE DETERRENTS ALSO.
SO. WELL, SOMEBODY WANT TO MAKE A MOTION.
I THINK THE CEMETERY DEFINITELY NEEDS THE FENCE.
AND I THINK IT'S BEEN TOO LONG, MR. BARTELS, BRINGING UP THE SIZE WISE.
I THINK THE DRIVING AROUND ISSUE, WHAT HE HAD BROUGHT UP AND SOME OF THOSE SMALL STREETS THAT ARE TOO CLOSE TO EACH OTHER THAT ARE BEING CLOSED OFF TO ME SEEMS TO BE MORE OF AN ISSUE THAN ANYTHING ELSE AS FAR AS ONCE YOU GET IN THERE, HOW YOU GET OUT AND CLOSING OFF LITTLE ENTRANCES THAT HAVE BEEN THERE ACCESS FOR A LONG TIME.
UM, I, I'M IN FAVOR OF THE FENCE.
I'M JUST STILL STUCK ON A FENCE ON EXACTLY THE, THE WORDING THE CO-CHAIR BROUGHT UP ABOUT THE DETERRENT AND SECURITY AS WELL.
THE ALUMINUM THING, YOU CAN JUST BREAK RIGHT IN.
AND IF THEY REALLY WANTED TO GET IN AND I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT WHEN THE ESTHETICS BECAUSE A SIX FOOT FENCE I, I REALLY DON'T SEE THE DIFFERENCE IN THE SIZE.
I DON'T KNOW IF WE CAN GO AT FIVE AND A HALF.
I MEAN, IS THERE A EQUAL MEDIAN THAT YOU CAN GO TO? THEY'RE PRETTY THEY'RE PRETTY FOUR, FIVE AND SIX.
I THINK ALL THOSE GATES THE OPTION.
I THINK THERE WERE 1000, $1300 EACH ONE OF THOSE GATES.
I THINK THAT WAS $7,000 TOTAL JUST IN GATES ITSELF.
IS THAT WHAT IT WAS? YEAH. 7000.
AND JUST IN GATES AT 1900 EACH.
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AND IF HE'S OFF ASKING ABOUT THOSE SIDE ROADS, THAT WOULD BE MORE GATES.THAT'D BE ANOTHER 1900 BUCKS EACH ONE.
OR TO SOMEHOW FIGURE OUT HIS CONCEPT OF THE DRIVING IN THERE.
AND IS THAT SURVEY GOING TO ANSWER THAT QUESTION ABOUT THE SERVICEABILITY OF A VEHICLE GOING IN THOSE SMALL STREETS? IS THAT WHAT THAT SURVEY WOULD DO? YEAH, A SURVEY WILL SHOW WHAT THE PROPERTY LINES ARE LIKE.
AND WE'RE GOING TO PUT MR. BARTEL WAS TALKING ABOUT THOSE ROADS OF ACCESS, THOSE LITTLE ROADS THAT REALLY THEY DO HAVE A NAME ON IT.
RIGHT. SO WE WOULDN'T HAVE ANYONE DRIVE DOWN THEM AND GET CAUGHT.
SO WE WOULD WE WOULD CLOSE THEM OFF AT THE BEGINNING OF IT.
SO YOU WOULD CLOSE IT OFF FROM THE BEGINNING OF MAGNOLIA, GO DOWN AND THEN GET STUCK.
THAT'S WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT. WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THERE'S EQUAL ACCESS IN THE PROPERTY.
I WILL NOW. BUT FOR US TO MAKE THAT SUGGESTION, WE WOULD NEED TO DELAY THIS TO OUR NEXT MEETING, CORRECT? IT WOULD BE REALLY HELPFUL TO HAVE SOME TYPE OF A YOU KNOW, EVEN IF IT'S WE LIKE THE FENCING.
IF I HAVE TO COME BACK TO YOU, WHICH IS FINE, IF THIS IS UP TO YOU, I CAN COME BACK AT THE NEXT MEETING THAT'S GOING TO DELAY TO PROBABLY SEPTEMBER, AND THEN WE'LL HAVE TO REQUEST FOR FUNDS TO ROLL IF WE CAN.
YEAH, THEY'RE THEY JUST LOVE THAT THERE WERE THIS MANY GATES.
BUT THEY. YEAH, THEY HAD NO THERE'S NO THERE WAS NO NO DISCUSSION OF THOSE OF THOSE OTHER TWO ROADS.
I MEAN, THOSE ARE THE PEOPLE THAT HAVE THE HISTORY.
OH, I KNOW, I KNOW. AND THEY'RE THE PEOPLE THAT THE PARK, I THINK THEY REACHED OUT TO THEM BECAUSE THEY WANTED TO KNOW WHAT THE HISTORY WAS AND WHAT THEIR SUGGESTIONS WERE TO COME UP WITH THIS GAME PLAN.
BUT JUST TO PLAY DEVIL'S ADVOCATE, I THINK THAT TOO, SOMETIMES, YOU KNOW, I'M CERTAIN THAT SCOTT AND CATHERINE PRESENTED THIS IN A WAY THAT IS APPEALING BECAUSE YOU GUYS ARE THOROUGH AND YOU SHOW THEM THINGS.
BUT I THINK, YOU KNOW, WE HEARD SOME OTHER ALTERNATIVES, TOO.
I MEAN, JUST HEARING YOU GUYS PITCH, IT SOUNDS LIKE A GOOD IDEA.
BUT WHEN YOU HEAR OTHER ALTERNATIVES, IT KIND OF, I THINK, OPENS THE DOOR TO ASK MORE QUESTIONS, TO SAY, ARE WE DOING IS THIS THE RIGHT THING? AND I WOULD JUST SAY, BASED ON THAT TODAY, I DON'T FEEL I DON'T FEEL COMFORTABLE MAKING THAT DECISION.
AND CERTAINLY NOT HAVING BEEN OUT THERE.
AND I WILL DRIVE THERE TOMORROW MORNING, BUT I FEAR THAT THAT WOULD BE TOO LATE BASED IF WE MOVE FORWARD TODAY.
CAN WE HAVE A MOTION? SOMEBODY DRAW UP A MOTION, PLEASE, SO WE CAN BRING THIS TO A CONCLUSION.
OF SOME SORT. WELL, HOW ABOUT IF WE MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE FENCING OF THE PROPERTY WITH THE RECOMMENDATION TO THE COMMISSIONERS THAT THEY LOOK AT PERHAPS LOOK AT SAVING MONEY BY GOING WITH A FIVE FOOT FENCE AND REDUCING THE NUMBER OF GATES WITH A INTERIOR.
BUT THAT THROWS EVERYTHING OUT.
RIGHT. BECAUSE EVERYBODY ELSE VOTED FOR IT JUST AS IT IS WITHOUT AN INTERIOR SIDEWALL.
I MEAN, I WOULD SHARE SHARE THE CONSENSUS WITH THE COMMISSION OF EACH GROUP.
I MEAN, THAT'D BE A PERFECT WORLD IF EVERY GROUP AGREED.
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START. FOR IF THERE WAS A SERVICE ROAD, THE NUMBER OF FEET, I DON'T HAVE THE NUMBER OF FEET, BUT IF YOU TRIED TO PUT A SERVICE ROAD, HOW MUCH ROOM IS THERE? YEAH. SO I COULDN'T DRAW.I COULDN'T DRIVE IN A STRAIGHT LINE.
YEAH. DOES THIS SAY A 60 FOOT RIGHT OF WAY, SIR, ON YOUR ON THESE PLANS, IS THAT A 60 FOOT RIGHT OF WAY FROM THE ROAD TO WHERE YOU THEN HAVE YOUR SERVICE ROAD FOR 60 PITCH.
I DON'T KNOW. IS IT FEET OR INCHES.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT WOULD HAVE TO BE INCHES.
IS IT WHERE SO WHERE THIS RIGHT OF WAY IS.
YEAH. LIKE DO YOU KNOW WHAT THAT DISTANCE IS.
THAT'S THE 60 FOOT RIGHT OF WAY FOR 14TH STREET.
THAT'S THE ROAD MEAN THIS IS IS THAT LIKE THE WIDTH OF THE ROAD.
THIS IS ANOTHER 60FT FROM THE ROAD.
YEAH. AND THEN THE RIGHT OF WAY IS BEYOND THERE.
SO WHERE HE'S SHOWING THIS DOTTED LINE IN BETWEEN THERE.
YEAH. TO BE SO IT'S THE SAME DISTANCE AS THIS ROADWAY HERE.
HE'S. SO AGAIN THAT'S WHY I'M LIKE, SEEING THIS I DON'T, I WOULD WANT TO GO SEE THAT AND SEE HOW MUCH, BECAUSE I COULD UNDERSTAND YOU DON'T WANT IT RIGHT UP ON 14TH STREET.
BUT WE ALSO, LIKE WE'VE SEEN ON EIGHTH STREET RIGHT WHERE THERE ARE HOUSES JUST SIDEWALKS, DISTANCE.
RIGHT. SO TO HAVE A FENCE OUT THERE THAT'S CLOSER TO THE ROADWAY TO ALLOW ACCESS TO THIS, BECAUSE THAT IS WHAT YOU GUYS ARE TRYING TO PROVIDE IS ACCESS, ADEQUATE ACCESS TO PEOPLE WHO ARE TRYING TO GET TO THOSE OLDER PARTS AND PROVIDING SECURITY.
I JUST. I WISH I COULD JUST SEE THIS GOING TO THE COMMISSION LIKE IT IS.
AND THEN WE'RE GETTING EXACTLY WHAT WE SAW HERE TODAY IS WHAT GETS EXECUTED.
AND I, I PERSONALLY DON'T FEEL COMFORTABLE WITH THAT.
DO I HAVE A SECOND? WHAT'S THE MOTION? WELL, I SAID MOTION.
LET'S SEE. YOU SHOULD APPROVE ANOTHER FENCE.
SO IF WE MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE CONCEPT OF THE FENCE AT SIX FEET WITH RECOMMENDATION, THEY LOOK AT LOWERING IT TO FIVE FEET IF THAT'S A COST SAVINGS.
WOULD THAT BE, PLEASE, EVERYBODY.
CAN I MAKE A MOTION OR DO WE HAVE TO SECOND THAT ONE FIRST? THAT'S WHY I WAS NOT. I WAS TALKING ABOUT MAKING.
OKAY. I JUST DIDN'T WANT TO OVERSTEP.
I WOULD MAKE A MOTION THAT WE GET THE SURVEY FOR THIS DONE, BECAUSE IF THERE IS ANOTHER OPTION THERE OF WHERE WE PUT THE FENCE, THAT MAY IMPACT THE AMOUNT OF FENCING THAT IS REQUIRED.
I THINK THEN TO MAYBE FOR US TO DO OUR DUE DILIGENCE TO TAKE A LOOK AT WHAT A FOUR FENCE LOOKS LIKE, A FOUR FOOT FENCE, A FIVE FOOT FENCE AND A SIX FOOT FENCE ACTUALLY LOOKS LIKE IN 1300 FEET OF FENCING.
WHETHER THAT LOOKS LIKE A WELCOMING PARK AREA OR A PRISON THAT WE COULD MAYBE LOOK AT IT THAT WAY AND THEN COME BACK BEFORE WE BEFORE THIS GOES TO THE COMMISSION.
SO I WOULD MAKE A MOTION TO GET THE SURVEY AND DEFER THIS UNTIL WE DO MORE DUE DILIGENCE.
WELL, I THINK IT'S WORTH LOOKING AT THAT.
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NEXT. NEXT.SEVEN ONE, PROJECT UPDATING ON THE FENCING RENOVATIONS, AWARD BIDS, AND UPCOMING BIDS.
[7. STAFF COMMENTS]
SO I WANT TO GIVE YOU ALL AN UPDATE ON THERE'S A TON OF STUFF THAT'S HAPPENING RIGHT NOW.THIS IS THE COTTAGE, NOT THE LIGHTHOUSE.
AND ALSO WE'RE PUTTING IN NEW FLOORING FOR THE COTTAGE OUT THERE.
AND SO THOSE OF YOU THAT HAVE BEEN OUT THERE, YOU KNOW, THAT'S MUCH A MUCH NEEDED PROJECT.
THIS THE SOCCER FIELD SHADE STRUCTURE.
THIS IS OUT AT YBOR, RIGHT? WE'RE WORKING ON GETTING THAT BACK UP.
WE HAD TO MAKE SOME MODIFICATIONS TO THE STRUCTURE SO THAT WE'RE WORKING ON THAT.
BUT NEXT WEEK WE'RE LOOKING AT STARTING THAT.
SO WE'RE MOVING SOME THINGS AROUND.
IF YOU VISITED WITH US, YOU KNOW, WE'RE KIND OF HALF IN CONSTRUCTION MODE AND THINGS ARE OFF THE WALL AND IT'S DUSTY AND BUT PUBLIC WORKS IS DOING A REALLY NICE JOB HELPING US OUT, ACCOMMODATING OUR STAFF SO WE CAN ALL BE IN THE SAME PLACE.
ATLANTIC SHADE STRUCTURE THAT'S OUT AT THE POOL, RIGHT.
AND SO WE WANT TO GET THAT BACK UP AT THE SPLASH PAD.
WE'VE GOT SOME FLOORING GOING IN AT THE CONCESSION STAND FOR BABE RUTH.
AND SO WE'RE PUBLIC WORKS IS HELPING OUT WITH THAT AS WELL.
WE'RE GETTING FIVE OUTDOOR PIECES OF FITNESS EQUIPMENT AND WE'RE WAITING ON THE TIMELINE FOR THAT.
BUT SHE DID GUARANTEE ME BY THE END OF THE YEAR.
SO WHEN WE DO GET THAT, WE'LL MAKE SURE TO LET YOU ALL KNOW.
WE'RE GOING TO BE EXPANDING THE FOOTPRINT OF THE FENCE OUT THERE.
YOU'RE GOING TO SEE MOVEMENT OUT THERE NEXT WEEK AND THEN THE FENCE TO FOLLOW.
AND IF YOU SEE IT, YOU'LL KNOW WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT.
IT'S PRETTY RUSTED AND PRETTY WARPED IN MANY LOCATIONS.
THEN WE'RE GOING TO BE WORKING ON ONCE WE GET THE THE MATERIALS IN SEPTEMBER OR AUGUST, SEPTEMBER ISH, WE'RE LOOKING AT GETTING THE SKATE PARK DONE, THE FENCE OUT AT SUNRISE PARK, GET THAT REDONE.
THE SPORT COURT OUT AT MAIN BEACH, RIGHT ADJACENT TO THE SKATE PARK.
AND ALSO WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, BOSS FELLOW.
SO THAT'S GOING TO THAT TIMELINE IS GOING TO BE CHANGED.
AND WE'RE ALSO LOOKING AT THE FITNESS CENTER OR THE WEIGHT ROOM OUT AT ATLANTIC.
THERE'S BEEN SOME INCONSISTENCIES JUST BECAUSE OF STAFFING.
AND SO OUR WAY TO MITIGATE THAT IS ACTUALLY GOING TO OVERALL BE A COST SAVINGS.
WE'RE PUTTING A CARD ACCESS DOOR LIKE MOST STAFF HAVE THESE TWO ACCESS DOORS.
WE'RE GOING TO HAVE OUR MEMBERS OF THE WEIGHT ROOM HAVE A CARD.
SO THAT'S GOING TO BE A MUCH NEEDED.
THE MEMBERS ARE EXCITED ABOUT IT.
AND THEN AT CENTRAL PARK, IT'S JUST A WALL YOU HIT INSTEAD OF INSTEAD OF USING A BUILDING OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, IT'S IT'S FOR THAT PURPOSE. AND THEN WE ALSO HAVE THE BID THAT'S BEEN ADVERTISED FOR THE SKATE PARK AND FIXING THE STRUCTURES UNDERNEATH THE RAMPS.
AND THOSE ARE OUR PROJECT UPDATES.
ANY QUESTIONS ON THAT? KATIE, CAN YOU BRING UP THE WEBSITE? SO AT THE LAST MEETING WE WEREN'T QUITE READY FOR THE WEBSITE REDESIGN.
THIS IS STILL A LITTLE BIT OF A WORK IN PROGRESS.
I'M JUST GOING TO TRY AND GET EVERYONE TO SEE IT.
AND THEN AT THE BOTTOM OF THAT LIST, YOU'LL SEE PARKS AND RECREATION 2.0.
AND IF YOU'RE LOOKING AT THE, YOU KNOW, A BASEBALL FIELD, WHERE IS IT GOING TO BE?
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IS IT ATHLETICS? IS IT SPORTS? IS IT PARKS? IS IT PARKS WITH BEACH ACCESS? IS IT YOU KNOW? SO IT'S VERY INTERESTING.THERE'S BEEN MANY HOURS DISCUSSING THE CATEGORIES ON THE LEFT HAND SIDE.
SO I ENCOURAGE YOU, WE DON'T I DON'T WANT TO GO THROUGH EVERYTHING TODAY AND CLICK ON EVERY LINK, BUT I REALLY ENCOURAGE YOU TO TAKE A LOOK AT THE WEBSITE, THE 2.0 VERSION, AND GIVE US ANY FEEDBACK THAT YOU SEE FIT.
THERE ARE SOME THINGS I KNOW WE NEED YOU.
YOU'VE BEEN WORKING REALLY HARD ON THIS.
THANK YOU, KATIE. I KNOW WE WE FOUND SOME THINGS THAT WE HAD FORGOTTEN ON THE OTHER WEBSITE.
SO THE PURPOSE OF THIS IS TO ELIMINATE THE EVERLASTING SCROLL.
THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO ELIMINATE.
SO YOU CAN ACTUALLY CLICK ON THINGS AND AND FIND YOUR INFORMATION QUICKLY.
AND WE WILL WE WILL LOOK AT THAT AND MAKE THOSE CHANGES.
SO ANY QUESTIONS ON THE WEBSITE? ALL RIGHT. THAT'S ALL I HAVE.
NUMBER EIGHT, BOARD MEMBER COMMENTS.
[8. BOARD MEMBER COMMENTS]
ANYBODY. YEAH.I DON'T KNOW WHO OR WHO WE HAVE TO SPEAK TO ABOUT THIS.
A YEAR FROM RIGHT NOW, WE WILL BE HAVING A YOUNG LADY POSSIBLY GOING TO THE OLYMPICS.
AND IF WHAT WE AS AN ORGANIZATION, PARKS SHOULD OR COULD DO TO RAISE AWARENESS AND OF.
I DON'T KNOW HOW THAT IS ARRANGED.
WHETHER SHE WINS A MEDAL OR NOT.
AND IF BECAUSE WE'RE A YEAR AWAY FROM THIS AND I REALLY DON'T SEE ANYBODY TRYING TO DISCUSS THIS AS A CITY TO POSSIBLY ARRANGE AND TO PUT TOGETHER EVENTS FOR THIS PARTICULAR I MEAN, I DON'T KNOW HOW THAT HAPPENS WHEN WHEN YOU GET YOU KNOW, I SUGGEST YOU REACH OUT TO MARY HAMBURG.
SHE'S THE PERSON WHO DOES ALL THE THE SOCIAL MEDIA AND EVERYTHING FOR THE CITY.
AND I THINK YOUR GROUP FRIENDS OF THE SKATEBOARD RIGHT FERNANDINA YES, RIGHT.
UM, BUT I'M JUST WONDERING IF THE CITY WOULD GET INVOLVED IN SOMETHING LIKE THIS AT ALL.
I THINK THAT THEY TYPICALLY CAN GET BEHIND THINGS LIKE THAT.
I KNOW AMERICA'S YOUTH IS A NONPROFIT AND THEY PUT ON A PARADE AND IT CAN BE ORGANIZED, BUT I THINK MARY WOULD BE A GREAT STARTING POINT ABOUT HOW TO DO THAT AND THEN HAVE YOUR ORGANIZATION AS THE PEOPLE WHO PULL THE PERMITS TO ACTUALLY HAVE THAT PARADE.
SO BUT I THINK THAT MARY WOULD BE THE BEST CONTACT WITH THE CITY.
I THINK SHE SHARES ALL THE EVENTS THAT THEY PUT ON AND ALL THAT STUFF, SO.
OKAY. THANK YOU. I JUST WANTED TO BRING THAT UP.
IT'S GOOD TO START PLANNING. THAT'S EXCITING.
THAT'S EXCITING. YEAH, THAT'S IT.
MY COMMENT. WELL, I THINK IT'S TRULY A WORTHWHILE THING THAT WE PROMOTE WITHIN OUR OWN CITY, WHERE PEOPLE ARE EXCELLING INTO THE ATHLETIC WORLD AND WE SHOULD HONOR THEM JUST LIKE WE HONORED HENRY. WE SHOULD HAVE THE SAME THING IN FERNANDINA.
SO IS THERE ANY WAY WE COULD BE KEPT ABREAST OF WHAT'S GOING ON, PARTICULARLY WITH OUR OWN BOARD? I HAD NO IDEA PHIL RESIGNED UNTIL TODAY, AND IT MAKES ME LOOK RATHER FOOLISH TO THE COMMUNITY WHEN THEY KNOW MORE THAN I DO ABOUT WHO'S ON THE BOARD BECAUSE I HAD NO IDEA HE RESIGNED. I MEAN, THAT'S SOMETHING WE SHOULD HAVE BEEN COMMUNICATED TO US WHEN IT HAPPENS.
I JUST HEARD THAT. BUT NO, I JUST JUST NOW HEARD THAT.
OKAY, WE CAN ADDRESS THAT WITH THE PARK AND REC DIRECTOR AND SEE MAKE SURE THAT EVERYBODY IS AWARE OF WHEN SOMEBODY IS ABSENT OR IS LEAVING ABSENT.
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EVERYONE WAS NOTIFIED AT THE SAME TIME.SO YEAH WE WERE NOTIFIED LAST MINUTE TO WAS FRIDAY AFTERNOON IS WHEN I FOUND OUT.
SO YEAH WE CAN CERTAINLY SEND SOMETHING OUT.
BUT THE RESIGNATION DIDN'T FOLLOW SUIT LIKE ALL THE OTHER ONES, I GUESS.
SO WE DIDN'T EVEN THINK OF IT.
WELL, I'D LIKE TO THANK COMMISSIONER CHAPMAN FOR HIS SERVICE.
AND LIKE I SAID EARLIER, HE CARES A LOT ABOUT OUR COMMUNITY, AND I APPRECIATE HIS SERVICE.
THANK YOU. SO DO WE HAVE A DO WE HAVE TWO SPOTS TO FILL NOW? SO IS THAT PEOPLE ARE INTERESTED? ARE WE ARE WE POSTING OR SHARING OR REQUESTING OR WORKING ON GETTING THOSE FILLED? SO THERE IS A INTERESTED PERSON WHO THE CLERK'S OFFICE REACHED OUT TO, I BELIEVE TODAY, IF THEY'RE NOT IF THEY HAVEN'T DONE IT TODAY, THEY'RE GOING TO DO IT TOMORROW AND SEE IF THEY IF THEY'RE STILL INTERESTED IN BEING ON THE BOARD.
SO I JUST. I JUST KNOW OF THAT ONE CANDIDATE.
DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING? THAT'S IT.
DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING? I JUST HAVE.
I HAD ASKED SCOTT ABOUT THE SEPTEMBER 12TH MEETING, WHICH IS THE SECOND TUESDAY IN SEPTEMBER, AND SCOTT WAS GOING TO ADDRESS THAT PLEASE.
SO CHAIR KAMARA HAD SAID THAT HE WANTED TO LOOK AT POSSIBLY CHANGING THE SEPTEMBER MEETING.
AND IF THERE IS A TIME THAT YOU'RE LOOKING TO MOVE IT, IF WE CAN.
I BASICALLY WROTE DOWN THE WHOLE MONTH AND WE CAN GO FROM THERE.
ARE YOU GOING TO BE OUT THAT WHOLE WEEK? THE WHOLE SECOND WEEK? I WILL BE OUT FROM SEPTEMBER 12TH THROUGH SEPTEMBER 29TH.
OKAY. SO WITH THAT BEING SAID, IS.
I TALKED TO CATHERINE ABOUT IT. THANK YOU.
SO I'M NOT MAKING PROMISES TO BE HERE IN PERSON NEXT MONTH OR IN SEPTEMBER.
I TOLD HER I WOULD TRY AND ZOOM IN, BUT I KNOW I THINK YOU HAVE TO HAVE IN PERSON.
AS LONG AS WE HAVE AN IN-PERSON QUORUM.
I'M GOING TO I MEAN, I'LL TRY IF I CAN BE HERE, BUT I DON'T.
SO WITH THAT BEING THAT MONTH.
SO WITH THAT BEING SAID IS SO I'D BE GOOD TO PLAN WHEN YOU CAN BE HERE SO THERE'S NOT LIKE TWO PEOPLE OUT THE MEETING ON THE FOURTH, THERE'S A MEETING AT 5:30 SO WE WOULD HAVE TO PUSH IT UP, OBVIOUSLY AT LEAST PLAN FOR AN HOUR, AN HOUR AND 15 MINUTES, ESPECIALLY WITH CHANGEOVER.
THE FIFTH, THERE'S A MEETING AT SIX, WHICH IS THE COMMISSION MEETING.
SO WE DON'T WE'RE NOT GOING TO BUMP IT RIGHT UP NEXT TO ANOTHER MEETING.
BUT AS LONG AS THERE'S ENOUGH TIME TO CHANGE IT OVER, WE'RE FINE WITH THAT.
SO. OH, SO THE FOURTH IS LABOR DAY.
THE FOURTH, THERE'S A MEETING AT 5:30 SO WE'D HAVE TO START EARLIER.
THE FIFTH THERE'S A MEETING AT SIX, WHICH IS A COMMISSION MEETING.
SO WE'D HAVE TO START EARLIER.
SO ANY TIME DURING THAT FIRST WEEK, WE WOULD HAVE TO PUSH THE MEETING UP.
WE DO HAVE IT AT FIVE JUST FOR MA'AM.
SO I THINK THE FOURTH IS LABOR DAY.
I'M SORRY. SO THE 11TH IS AVAILABLE.
SO IS EVERYBODY OKAY WITH THE 11TH? AND WE COULD DO IT AT THE SAME TIME AT 5:00.
SO THERE WOULD ME. YEAH, THAT'S FINE WITH ME.
YEAH, THAT'S FINE. YOU CAN GO ON WITH THAT.
OKAY. CAN I GET A MOTION THAT WE CAN USE THE 11TH AS A DATE FOR SEPTEMBER? I, I THINK WE'RE FINE.
AS LONG AS WE HAVE THAT CONSENSUS, WE'LL.
WE'LL WE'LL CHANGE THE DATE TO THE 11TH.
SO WE'RE JUST MOVING IT UP ONE DAY, RIGHT? OKAY. THANK YOU, SCOTT.
[01:15:05]
YES, SIR? ANYBODY ELSE? ANY COMMENTS? OKAY.THE ONLY THING I HAVE TO SAY IS I TRULY APPRECIATE THE DILIGENCE THAT EVERYBODY PUTS ON THIS BOARD ABOUT ANY SUBJECT THAT WE BRING FORWARD. I THINK WE TRY TO MAKE THE BEST POSSIBLE DECISIONS FOR THIS COMMUNITY WITH ALL THE KNOWLEDGE THAT WE HAVE.
AND I REALLY APPRECIATE EVERYBODY.
YOU KNOW, WE'RE NOT GOING TO AGREE ON EVERYTHING, BUT WE WILL ALWAYS AGREE THAT WE ARE TRYING TO DO THE BEST WE POSSIBLY CAN FOR THIS COMMUNITY, AND THAT'S OUR NUMBER ONE OBJECTIVE. SO SAYING THAT I WANT TO ALSO PUT MY $0.02 IN FOR PHIL CHAPMAN, HIS SERVICE, BOTH AS A COMMISSIONER AND AS A MEMBER OF THIS BOARD, WAS DEDICATED TO THIS CITY.
YOU KNOW, AGAIN, PEOPLE CAN SAY WHAT THEY WANT ABOUT ANYBODY, BUT HE THREW THE TIME IN AND HE MADE SURE THAT THIS COMMUNITY WAS WELL REPRESENTED ON ANYTHING THAT HE DID.
SO THAT WAS MY $0.02 ON THAT ONE.
WE AS A BOARD HAVE TO LOOK AT DIFFERENT THINGS AT DIFFERENT WAYS.
AND WE'RE GOING TO BE FACED WITH A LOT OF PROBLEM ISSUES THAT WILL BE COMING UP WITH BUDGET PROPOSALS AND DIFFERENT THINGS THAT WILL ENHANCE OUR ABILITY TO GO FORWARD WITH SOME PROJECTS.
SO WE'VE GOT TO BE REALLY SECURE IN OUR DECISION MAKING THAT WE COME ACROSS AS THOUGH WE'RE ALL TOGETHER, NOT TO THE SENSE IT'S A 5-0 VOTE OR A 6-0 VOTE, BUT WE'VE GIVEN IT OUR BEST SHOT.
OKAY. WE HAVE A BUDGET THAT'S COMING UP.
AND THERE'S A LOT OF TALK IF YOU GO TO COMMISSIONERS MEETINGS, WHAT'S HAPPENING? AND UNTIL THAT HAPPENS, BUSINESS AS USUAL.
BUT WE NEED TO BE SURE THAT WE ARE PREPARED AND WE DO OUR PREPARATION WITH THE IDEA THAT WE CAN MAKE DECISIONS BECAUSE ONE OF THESE DECISIONS IS GOING TO BE SOMETHING LIKE WHAT HAPPENED TODAY, THAT, YOU KNOW, THEY ONLY HAVE X AMOUNT OF KNOWLEDGE AND THINK, YOU KNOW, I'LL APPRECIATE ANYBODY THAT COMES UP HERE AND WANTS TO GIVE THEIR OPINION.
WE'RE LISTENING TO THE PUBLIC AND THAT'S WHAT WE HAVE TO DO.
SO I TRULY APPRECIATE EVERYBODY'S INPUT TODAY.
I THINK IT WAS A WORTHWHILE JOB.
AND, YOU KNOW, WE'LL GO FORWARD.
AND WITH THAT, GOODBYE, JULY.
* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.